[12:03] <rediz_> done
[12:04] <hacknslash> rediz_: can you see a line mentioning the wireless card
[12:04] <Xenguy> hehe
[12:04] <rediz_> pccard: CardBus card inserted into slot 0
[12:04] <orchid`> anyone about
[12:05] <jrib> Stettin|work: if you move it to /bin/sh, then it's at /bin/sh.  Remake the symlink to dash
[12:05] <Michael> Got a silly question here, in how many ways can I install win inside Ubuntu ? (Xp in Feisty)
[12:05] <orchid`> does someone know how i can take shared files from a vista and copy them to my ubuntu 64amd  ver the wired connection
[12:05] <jrib> !virtualizers > Michael (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <hacknslash> rediz_: anything else
[12:05] <Ashfire908> uh, i think i broken the usb driver
[12:05] <Stettin|work> ok i'm a command line noob how would i do that?
[12:05] <jrib> Michael: and 'wine', '
[12:05] <Ashfire908> *broke
[12:05] <jrib> Michael: and wine, crossover office, cedega might count too
[12:05] <Stettin|work> i see dash and sh, but I cannot CD to them
[12:06] <rediz_> nothing
[12:06] <Stettin|work> says they are not directories
[12:06] <Ashfire908> is there a way to get my usb ports active again?
[12:06] <Jowi> Stettin|work, that's what I said two times already.
[12:06] <jrib> Stettin|work: mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.backup && ln -s dash /bin/sh
[12:06] <Stettin|work> thank you
[12:06] <Michael> no, autocad does not work in wine :(
[12:06] <hacknslash> rediz_:how about lspci -n
[12:06] <sams> i canot play mpeg and wav files in ubuntu plz help????
[12:07] <vader1102> Stettin|work, would you not have to do a sudo gedit <filename>
[12:07] <vader1102> have not been paying attention
[12:07] <Ashfire908> could i get some help with my usb ports?
[12:07] <jrib> Stettin|work: how did you manage to overwrite /bin/sh as a command line move by the way?
[12:08] <jrib> noob*
[12:08] <rediz_> load of numbers
[12:08] <Stettin|work> yes
[12:08] <Cron73> hey i hav a problem installing a counter strike server, it doesnt see the file look admin1@Andreas-Server:~/srcds_l$ ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[12:08] <Cron73> bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory
[12:08] <Cron73> admin1@Andreas-Server:~/srcds_l$ ls
[12:08] <Cron73> hldsupdatetool.bin
[12:08] <Cron73> admin1@Andreas-Server:~/srcds_l$
[12:08] <sams> i canot play mpeg and wav files in ubuntu plz help????
[12:08] <jrib> !paste | Cron73
[12:08] <ubotu> Cron73: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <Stettin|work> i agree.. i though it was a directory, so i did mv ar.sh /bin/sh
[12:08] <hacknslash> rediz_: any next to the wireless card ?
[12:08] <rediz_> sams get xmms
[12:08] <jrib> Stettin|work: ah I see.  It's a good idea to alias mv='mv -i'
[12:08] <sams> how
[12:08] <progek> sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:09] <rediz_> no
[12:09] <sams> from where
[12:09] <Cron73> ok... sorry, but do you ee the problem?
[12:09] <GIn> hi, I want to make a gnome utility for myslef to backup files. I have basic C++ knowledge, can some one recommend me a higher programming to make a gtk application as fast as possible?
[12:09] <Stettin|work> so if anyone knows how I can recover without reinstalling i'd appreciate it, i've tried the command sudo mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.backup && ln -s /bin/sh, but it gives me /bin/sh no such file or dir
[12:09] <itnomad> is there a bittorrent I can use to get ubuntu?
[12:09] <PriceChild> !torrents | itnomad
[12:09] <Cron73> !|paste
[12:09] <ubotu> itnomad: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <jrib> Stettin|work: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:09] <progek> sams, in terminal-> sudo apt-get install xmms     or go to synaptic package manager and search for 'xmms'
[12:10] <navets> i need some help with my webpage on linux
[12:10] <kkathman> why oh why does firefox just eat cpu??
[12:10] <kkathman> sigh
[12:10] <Stettin|work> so what was in 'bin/sh; before?
[12:10] <Ashfire908> could i please have some help? my usb ports are not responding
[12:10] <itnomad> I'll check, I must have missed it. Thanks.
[12:10] <Stettin|work> i just cleared it out with gedit, and yes the file was there
[12:10] <jrib> Cron73: is it executable?
[12:10] <Tripokey> GIn: www.python.org
[12:10] <Cron73> . i did chmod +x
[12:10] <progek> navets, what kind of help?
[12:10] <navets> how come my webpage text doesnt fit on my webpage on linux but does on windows
[12:10] <navets> http://navetz.com/view.php?id=73
[12:11] <rly> can someone tell me how to install a nvidia 8800?
[12:11] <GIn> Tripokey, can pythong do gtk?
[12:11] <navets> thats the link
[12:11] <jrib> Cron73: what does ;ls -l hldsupdatetool.bin' return?
[12:11] <jrib> Cron73: I can't type today, I meant: ls -l hldsupdatetool.bin
[12:11] <jerbear> how do i enable user-level sharing?
[12:11] <hacknslash> rediz_: remove the card and do lspci
[12:11] <hacknslash> rediz_: put the card back in and do lspci
[12:11] <progek> looks fine for me, which browsers are you using in windows and in linux?
[12:11] <Stettin|work> well im glad this is just my usb boot hd :)
[12:12] <Cron73> -rwxr-xr-x 1 admin1 root 3513408 2005-09-01 21:27 hldsupdatetool.bin
[12:12] <jrib> navets: could be different resolution, different font, or different font size
[12:12] <navets> well I am using pixels for the font
[12:12] <hacknslash> rediz_: the wireless card should then be obvious, (it may not be listed as belkin)
[12:12] <Ashfire908> Could i please have some help i really need to access my usb jump drive right now
[12:12] <navets> and the page size is set
[12:12] <Tripokey> GIn: http://www.pygtk.org/
[12:12] <progek> navets, are you using absolute sizes?
[12:12] <nvrpunk> rly, you downloaded the file right?
[12:12] <jrib> Cron73: weird
[12:13] <nvrpunk> rly, and are in the directory where you downloaded it?
[12:13] <[nrx] > :)
[12:13] <jrib> Stettin|work: /join #ubuntu-classroom   if you want to try to fix it
[12:13] <jonnymac> is azureus any good?
[12:13] <rediz_> done
[12:13] <jrib> !ask | Ashfire908
[12:13] <ubotu> Ashfire908: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:14] <navets> progek: I am using mostly absolute sizes
[12:14] <progek> jonnymac it's okay, I mostly use ktorrent though, has not crashed on me yet
[12:14] <jerbear> how do i enable user-level sharing?
[12:14] <Tripokey> jonnymac: yes it is.. but if you want a client who is not resource hogging i suggest deluge
[12:14] <progek> but running gnome
[12:14] <hacknslash> rediz_: can u see the card now
[12:14] <Cron73> jrib: any idea what i do to get it to run?
[12:14] <rediz_> no
[12:14] <Stettin|work> should i just reinstall to recover my /bin/sh file, or is there an easier way/
[12:14] <zetheroo> How does one loose the Add and Remove button on their Applications menu?
[12:14] <Ashfire908> jrib i have alredy said, my usb ports aren't working
[12:14] <jonnymac> so deluge or ktorrent?
[12:14] <Ar-Pharazon> Hey guys, I have an crossover cat5 connecting winxp and ubuntu... How come I see C$ and D$ which I can only access with a password?
[12:14] <jrib> Cron73: what happens if you do: /home/admin1/srcds_l/hldsupdatetool.bin
[12:15] <zetheroo> and How does one restore that Add and Remove button?
[12:15] <Tripokey> jonnymac: a matter of taste try both if you are unsure and decide for yourself
[12:15] <Ashfire908> zetheroo: edit the menu
[12:15] <Cron73> jrib: bash: /home/admin1/srcds_l/hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory
[12:15] <vader1102> jonnymac, I have used it, you got to twek it too much for my liking
[12:15] <jrib> Ashfire908: mouse connected to usb does not work either?
[12:15] <jrib> Cron73: and yet, 'ls /home/admin1/srcds_l/hldsupdatetool.bin' still succeeds?
[12:15] <Ashfire908> jrib no my mouse is on a ps/2 port
[12:15] <rediz_> when dl ndi files are in /home/rediz/ndi but cant cd to ndi to make inatsll
[12:15] <jrib> Ashfire908: what have you tried that doesn't work
[12:15] <jonnymac> food for thought... thanks :)
[12:16] <vader1102> yw
[12:16] <hacknslash> rediz_: are u saying the output of lspci before and after the wireless card is inserted is the same
[12:16] <Cron73> Jrib: yes
[12:16] <jrib> Cron73: no idea
[12:16] <rediz_> yes
[12:16] <navets> do you guys mind looking at my website and giving me suggestions for improvement; http://navetz.com
[12:16] <Cron73> jrib: should  try chmod 777?
[12:16] <jrib> !offtopic | navets
[12:16] <ubotu> navets: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:16] <Ashfire908> jrib: none of the usb ports are responding and i've gotten kernel errors brocast to my open terminals
[12:16] <hacknslash> rediz_: k
[12:16] <jrib> Cron73: you can try of course
[12:17] <Ashfire908> navets: have you been here before?
[12:17] <Ar-Pharazon> Anyone? I mean, this isn't really a problem, but I was wondering why it happened.
[12:17] <navets> Ashfire908: I have been in the channel before if thats what you mean
[12:17] <rediz_> support say ndi must be installed to support belkin 8010
[12:18] <dirtyhand> what is the command to list all the apt-get packages with apache in the name?
[12:18] <jonnymac> link for the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[12:18] <Michael> Which one is better ? QEmu , VirtualBox or VMWare ? And which one can I use to install win on the easiest ?
[12:18] <vader1102> dirtyhand, apt-cache search
[12:18] <Enselic> jonnymac: the default Dsktop
[12:18] <fulio> How do i install xwinwrap
[12:18] <jrib> dirtyhand: apt-cache search -n apache
[12:18] <Enselic> Hello, what package shuld I install on Ubuntu Server to get a (GNOME) UI=
[12:18] <Enselic> ?
[12:18] <jrib> !apt > dirtyhand (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:18] <hacknslash> rediz_: /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart
[12:18] <dirtyhand> Enselic/jrib : installed in my computer
[12:19] <hacknslash> rediz_: then retry lspci
[12:19] <Cron73> jrib: didnt work, i can see it in file explorer but the terminal refuses to see it except in ls.... any idea who would know something about this?
[12:19] <jrib> dirtyhand: aptitude search '~i~napache'
[12:19] <Ashfire908> jrib: all of the usb ports will not do anything but provide power. i've tried all four of my usb thumb drives on three ports
[12:20] <fulio> How do i install xwinwrap? i tryd this in terminal sudo apt-get install xwinrap, but it says "Couldnt find package xwinrap
[12:20] <jrib> Ashfire908: haven't seen that before, but have you looked for anything interesting in 'dmesg'?  Also, have you just tried rebooting?
[12:20] <rediz_>  Linux >= 2.6.13-rc1 requires pcmciautils instead of pcmcia-cs
[12:20] <jrib> Michael: I prefer virtualbox and I think it's the easiest too
[12:21] <sams> i installed xmmx but it cant play mpeg and wav files what shall i do now ??????????//
[12:21] <BleedingMoon> jrib: how i connect into skype?!
[12:21] <Ashfire908> jrib: i would rather not, i got a bunch of kernel errors broadcasted into my terminal windows with a trace of an error shown
[12:21] <rediz_> done
[12:21] <hacknslash> rediz_: sorry try sudo /etc/init.d/pcmciautils
[12:21] <rediz_> done
[12:21] <vader1102> fulio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222193 is what google brought up for me
[12:21] <hacknslash> rediz_: now can we see the card ?
[12:21] <Ashfire908> jrib: they are all from the kernel, the first says "Oops: 0000 [#1] 
[12:21] <rediz_> still wont see card
[12:22] <benzs_s> hacknslash: gksu gedit /etc/init.d/pcmciautils ?
[12:22] <jrib> BleedingMoon: I don't use skype, so I don't know.  Are you able to start the program?
[12:22] <BleedingMoon> jrib: yes.
[12:22] <Cron73> jrib: when trying on a similar file i get this bash: ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin: Permission denied BEFORE i do the chmod +x command
[12:22] <ehc> is there a way to see my cpu temp inside of ubuntu (I only know how to through the bios)
[12:22] <jrib> Ashfire908: you should create a pastebin with all these errors so others can help
[12:22] <sams> 9i installed xmmx but it cant play mpeg and wav files what shall i do now ??????????
[12:22] <Michael> jrib: So this is an emu, right, means that win will act like win... I can work on autocad and play some games ok it and install drivers and stuff ..
[12:22] <Ashfire908> ok
[12:23] <jrib> Michael: sure, no directx stuff though (I think vmware has some beta support for it)
[12:23] <hacknslash> sams: install this  apt-get install mjpegtools mp3gain toolame lame mpeg2dec a52dec mplayer-nogui transcode mencoder vorbis-tools mp3splt audacity
[12:23] <hacknslash> sams: these will play most files
[12:24] <hacknslash> sams: i have some more if they dont
[12:24] <BleedingMoon> HELP? Some1 with skype
[12:24] <jrib> !sensors > ehc (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:24] <Michael> Jrib: Thanks for the info, I will look into this now.
[12:24] <hacknslash> rediz_: i'm researching ?
[12:24] <Ar-Pharazon> What's the partition editor program in ubuntu and where is it? I forgot. =/
[12:25] <vader1102> Ar-Pharazon, isn't it gparted?
[12:25] <Ar-Pharazon> ok
[12:25] <Ar-Pharazon> thanks
[12:26] <vader1102> I am not sure, was asking
[12:26] <vader1102> yw though
[12:26] <Ashfire908> jrib: sorry i'm having a bit of trouble the kern.log is spewing what looks like errors
[12:27] <pwnd_> Hi, my wireless card is detected, but it won't connect to a network.
[12:28] <Pelo> !wifi | pwnd_
[12:28] <ubotu> pwnd_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:28] <crabgrass> where do i go for questions regarding dvd ripping and encoding?
[12:28] <jrib> crabgrass: here is good
[12:29] <jrib> Pelo: eh?
[12:29] <crabgrass> okay, i'm ripping dvd's using dvd::rip, but the audio is always off.
[12:29] <rediz_> after downloadin ndi. the install file says
[12:29] <crabgrass> i've tried messing around with the framerate, but no go.
[12:29] <rediz_> This will create ndiswrapper-version directory. Change to that
[12:29] <rediz_> directory and run
[12:30] <jonnymac> help won't run for ktorrent in feisty
[12:30] <Pelo> crabgrass,  you need to use something like avidemux to  resync the sound
[12:30] <crabgrass> ah-ha.
[12:30] <crabgrass> and where in the workflow do i do that?
[12:30] <mauri> x does not start automatically. I have to type startx inorder to lanch it. Some one can help me
[12:30] <vader1102> jonnymac, I use Bit tornado
[12:30] <Pelo> crabgrass, workflow ?
[12:30] <Michael> What is this guy using to change desktops like this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_X-_dMSa0
[12:31] <jrib> mauri: did you disable gdm from automatically starting up?
[12:31] <jonnymac> I'll try that thanks
[12:31] <erUSUL> mauri: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[12:31] <crabgrass> pelo, i mean does that come in after i've ripped everything to an ogm, or do i need to rip seperate video and audio tracks?
[12:31] <jrib> !effects > Michael (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:31] <orchid`> yasumoto
[12:31] <orchid`> yasumoto: did you get ANY of my mesages?
[12:31] <hacknslash> rediz_: brb
[12:32] <Pelo> crabgrass,  you can do that in avidemux it'S another app, you can use it to ... offset the audio when you resave the file
[12:32] <dirtyhand> how can I do a full clean uninstall of apache?
[12:32] <pwnd_> If it says no wireless extensions, but lists my card under eth0, what should I do? :/
[12:32] <Pelo> crabgrass, to be frank I've never done this before , but I've needed to fix some small vids
[12:33] <crabgrass> pelo, yeah, just installed it. am i to understand that i don't need to rip seperate audio and video tracks to combine, i can work off one and offset the audio?
[12:33] <Pelo> dirtyhand, sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename I think
[12:33] <Ashfire908> jrib: okay one sec
[12:33] <nazgul> I'd like to install apache2 but it states it is about to install unsigned packaged. however ubuntu-keyring is installed. (ubtuntu 7.04). where can i get the master keys?
[12:33] <mauri> erUSUL:  the answer is: file does not exist
[12:34] <dirtyhand> Pelo: how do I know which apache packages are installed that need to be cleaned
[12:34] <jrib> nazgul: hmm, tried an 'apt-get update'?
[12:34] <dirtyhand> cus if I just do apache2 it wont work
[12:34] <nazgul> jrib: yes, yesterday
[12:34] <Pelo> crabgrass, pretty much, on the left side of the image in avidemux you can change the audio format ( from copy to soemething else) and you get access to filters,  what you need should be in there somwehre
[12:34] <crabgrass> ah ha
[12:34] <jrib> nazgul: I mean, try it now and then try installing apache2 again to see if it persists
[12:35] <crabgrass> pelo, oh, lol, that's how i get to shift.
[12:35] <erUSUL> mauri: are you using kubuntu?
[12:35] <Ashfire908> jrib: do you know another pastbin the ubuntu one is saying i', spamming
[12:35] <jrib> Ashfire908: pastebin.ca
[12:35] <Pelo> dirtyhand, got gui ?  try with synaptic it will be simpler,  other wise I don'T know which packages I'm sorry
[12:35] <hacknslash> rediz_: back
[12:35] <Pelo> crabgrass,  ?
[12:35] <nazgul> jrib: thanks that did the trick. strange it did not update the keyring as far as i can tell
[12:35] <sam1> i still unable tp play mp3 ,wav,mpeg files plz plz plz help me
[12:35] <crabgrass> pelo: i had it on copy, needed to change it
[12:35] <mauri> erUSUL:  yes
[12:36] <dirtyhand> Pelo: im accessing remotely
[12:36] <dirtyhand> ssh
[12:36] <Pelo> !codec | sam1
[12:36] <ubotu> sam1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:36] <mauri> erUSUL:  yestarday it worked
[12:36] <erUSUL> mauri: then is kdm instead of gdm
[12:36] <Pelo> dirtyhand, that was as far as I could take you , sorry
[12:36] <hacknslash> sam1: did u run my command ?
[12:36] <sam1> i already read the sites but i cant understand
[12:37] <dmitrig01> any good VNC servers for ubuntu?
[12:37] <hacknslash> sam1: type the command in a terminal
[12:37] <Pelo> crabgrass, yeah, took me a while to figure that one out,  you get access to a butload of filters editing tools and assorted features when you choose something other then copy
[12:37] <sam1> wich one hashnslash
[12:37] <mauri> erUSUL:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist.
[12:38] <rafaelscj> !vnc
[12:38] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:38] <hacknslash> sam1: which terminal or which command ?
[12:38] <sam1> i asked about the command slash
[12:38] <loca|host> dmitrig01, run vino-preferences in your console
[12:39] <jcastros> hello
[12:39] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install mjpegtools mp3gain toolame lame mpeg2dec a52dec mplayer-nogui transcode mencoder vorbis-tools mp3splt audacity
[12:39] <crabgrass> pelo: know of any way to force vsync on avidemux's video playback
[12:39] <sam1> ok
[12:39] <sam1> let me try
[12:39] <hacknslash> sam1: u may need to put sudo in front of the command
[12:39] <sam1> ok
[12:39] <jcastros> can someone please help me with an instalation?
[12:40] <Yasumoto> orchid`: try messaging me again, but if I don't respond, let's just chat in-channel
[12:40] <Pelo> sam1, go to menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,   select the search button in the tool bar,  search for  gstreamer ,  install all the gstreamer0.10  packages you see, that should take care of most of it
[12:40] <Pelo> jcastros, we need specifics,  what is troubling you ?
[12:40] <erUSUL> mauri: o_O' !? then X should start at boot time with kdm... do you get any error msg at boot time. Is There something in the logs?
[12:40] <SlimeyPete> jcastros: describe your problem, and if any of us can help you then we will :)
[12:40] <fulio> Can someone help me install xwinwrap
[12:40] <Ashfire908> jrib, i pasted it in the pastebin link you gave me. the title is kernel errors
[12:40] <Pelo> fulio, what is it ?
[12:41] <vader1102> fulio, I sent you a link to a forum for Ubuntu on it
[12:41] <fulio> Pelo, can you help me install xwinwrap, its a animated background
[12:41] <sam1> hacknslash Package mjpegtools has no installation candidate
[12:41] <Michael> In conclusion, I found allot of problems with the emus.. is it better to have an emu or just to dualboot ?
[12:41] <Pelo> fulio,  what kind of file do you hve ?
[12:41] <fulio> vader1102, it was no help...
[12:41] <Ar-Pharazon> Shoot
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Michael: depends what you're doing
[12:41] <fulio> Pelo, what you mean?
[12:41] <jcastros> Pelo, i'm trying to install and aplication, an I get this message: Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[12:41] <fulio> Pelo, this is as close i got but i dont know how to install it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2342997
[12:41] <gordonjcp> Michael: I have a PC at work that can dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows XP, because we've got one bit of software that only works in Windows
[12:41] <Pelo> fulio, did  you download a file somewhere  ? to install from ? what is the name of the file , with extenssion
[12:42] <gordonjcp> Michael: it's a hassle to maintain though
[12:42] <Pelo> jcastros, what application ?
[12:42] <hacknslash> sam1: do you have multiverse and universe repositories enabled ?
[12:42] <mauri> erUSUL:  when system is stated, it stops at the command line
[12:42] <Badpenguin86> How do I access files on a windows computer on my network?
[12:42] <jcastros> redhat developer studio
[12:42] <fulio> Pelo, can you help me install it please
[12:43] <xchat-k> :(
[12:43] <sam1> i dont know about that hachnslash
[12:43] <xchat-k> error 18
[12:43] <erUSUL> !samba  | Badpenguin86
[12:43] <ubotu> Badpenguin86: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:43] <mauri> erUSUL:  i insert my account and my password and so starx and all works
[12:43] <Michael> Gordonjcp All that I am saying is : Will the emu act 100% like the real thing or will it 50% work ?
[12:43] <Pelo> fulio, hold on I'm reading the file
[12:43] <Pelo> jcastros,  what's the file extention you have ?
[12:43] <fulio> Pelo, ok
[12:43] <gordonjcp> Michael: depends on exactly what you're doing
[12:43] <jcastros> is a jar file
[12:43] <jrib> Ashfire908: best to ask your question again in the channel and include the link to the pastebin
[12:43] <jcastros> to run throw java
[12:43] <bozza> guys is there an easy way to install radeon 9600
[12:43] <mauri> erUSUL:  but yestarday kde is stard automatically
[12:43] <NIklas_E> Can you run ubuntu on a sd memory? (start up somehow with a cd or something)
[12:43] <hacknslash> sam1: i can show you the graphical way or the terminal way?
[12:43] <Pelo> jcastros, I don'T know about installing jar file  try having a look in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[12:43] <rafaelscj> video player shows a black screen while playing movies
[12:44] <sam1> ok
[12:44] <arinomi> Fedora brings cancer!
[12:44] <Michael> gordonjcp: I need to use win for Autocad, need it to draw sheets. And I want to play a game too.
[12:44] <Bozza> could someone show me a link to page which shows how to install radeon 9600
[12:44] <hacknslash> sam1: which would you prefer ?
[12:44] <ZmaX_> fulio: sudo apt-get install xwinwrap
[12:44] <sam1> terminal
[12:44] <wil462> I have a question about xsane and I was wondering if someone could answer a question about installing a backend
[12:44] <sam1> its easy i think so
[12:44] <Ashfire908> hey i'm having a problem with my kernel and it's spewing out errors, and my usb ports don't do anything other than provide power. http://pastebin.ca/698986
[12:44] <gordonjcp> Michael: try it and see if it works
[12:45] <coach> hi@all
[12:45] <hacknslash> sam1: i will give you several commands to do it for you okay ?
[12:45] <dirtyhand> how come ubuntu server 7.04 doesnt ask you for a root password on install?
[12:45] <Pelo> fulio, what's the name of that app again ?
[12:45] <fulio> i did that it says couldnt find package xwinwrap
[12:45] <sam1> ok
[12:45] <rediz_> hacknslash got ndi wrapper installed with the synaptic package manager
[12:45] <coach> what's the name of that mac-style starterbar?
[12:45] <gordonjcp> dirtyhand: because it doesn't have a root password
[12:45] <dirtyhand> how can I set the root pw then
[12:45] <erUSUL> mauri: i can imagine what may be wrong in your caonf...
[12:45] <dirtyhand> i hate having to type sudo
[12:45] <MattJ> dirtyhand: You use sudo
[12:45] <ZmaX_> fulio: you have to insert a valid repository
[12:45] <fulio> Pelo, its called xwinwrap which it has a animated background.
[12:45] <coach> dirtyhand, you have to use sudo
[12:45] <erUSUL> mauri: are you using feisty?
[12:45] <hacknslash> rediz_: the problem is the os cannot see the card, i'm working on it
[12:45] <MattJ> dirtyhand: sudo -i then :)
[12:45] <dirtyhand> sudo -i ?
[12:45] <alienseer23> i have an installation frozen at "configure apt sources" is there any way to fix a frozen installation, or this particular problem?
[12:45] <MattJ> dirtyhand: and that will give you a root shell
[12:45] <rafaelscj> !root
[12:45] <fulio> ZmaX_, how do i do that?
[12:45] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:45] <dirtyhand> oh
[12:46] <dirtyhand> nice
[12:46] <mauri> at the moment... i'm tring 7.10
[12:46] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Essential repos" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <Pelo> fulio,  are you aware this requires you to use compiz-fusion ?
[12:46] <coach> what's the name of that mac-style starterbar?
[12:46] <fulio> Pelo, yea i have compiz-fusion
[12:46] <Michael> gordonjcp: Ok, I will, If I don;t get it righ that means 3 more hours of work to enable the Wlan when reinstalling Ubuntu ^^
[12:46] <mauri> erUSUL:  kubuntu 7.10
[12:46] <rediz_> cant see cos no ndi installed. now got ndi installed
[12:46] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <crabgrass> also, anyone know what would be causing totem and vlc to not play audio and lock up every time i try to watch a movie?
[12:46] <crabgrass> i have about 35 totem zombie processes now
[12:46] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Michael: don't get what right?
[12:47] <gordonjcp> Michael: and, how on earth does it take you that long to set up wireless lan?
[12:47] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Updates and bug fixes" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <erUSUL> mauri: you may get better support in #ubuntu+1
[12:47] <mauri> erUSUL:  thanks
[12:47] <sam1> Permission denied
[12:47] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <ThanatosDrive> Guys, how do I partition the drive, and set up GRUB for WinXP? I'm planning on dual-booting.
[12:47] <hacknslash> sam1: sudo in front
[12:47] <rafaelscj> I can't play any video... player shows a black screen.., how can I fix it?
[12:48] <sam1> ok
[12:48] <BernieMac> ThanatosDrive, download the ubuntu .iso, and boot from cd
[12:48] <jcastros> Pelo, I need to install java
[12:48] <jcastros> the sun's version
[12:48] <Pelo> !java | jcastros
[12:48] <BernieMac> ThanatosDrive, it will talk you through it, the ubuntu installer comes with its own partitioner
[12:48] <ubotu> jcastros: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:48] <Ar_Pharazon> My networks are a bit messed up, can someone help please?
[12:48] <Pelo> fulio,  join me in #pelo please
[12:48] <jcastros> a rpm file will work?
[12:48] <sam1> still denied
[12:48] <ThanatosDrive> BernieMac: I already have Ubuntu on this PC. I'm planning on adding WinXP.
[12:48] <rediz_> gotta off thanks for help. i really appreshiate it
[12:49] <Netham45> !nvidia-glx
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <hacknslash> sam1: even preceded by sudo?
[12:49] <Michael> gordonjcp: Get the emu up and running like the real thing, as for the second, i have to install ndiswrapper and config all that stuff there :(
[12:49] <jcastros> thanks
[12:49] <BernieMac> ThanatosDrive, then I can't help you, sorry, I started with xp and switched to dual booting ubuntu
[12:49] <gordonjcp> Michael: htm
[12:49] <gordonjcp> hrm even
[12:49] <Netham45> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <gordonjcp> Michael: why not make a copy of your config files?
[12:49] <sam1> yes
[12:49] <sam1> i used sudo n still denied
[12:49] <BlackAlex> still having trouble setting up my wifi
[12:50] <hacknslash> sam1: try sudo -s -H (on its own)
[12:50] <rafaelscj> I can hear but I can't watch any video... how can I fix?
[12:50] <Michael> gordonjcp: I am new to linux , only worked in DOS and win since 8 , now i'm 20, I don't know what Ubuntu can really do ...
[12:50] <BernieMac> rafaelscj, you aren't running desktop effects are you?
[12:50] <ThanatosDrive> Does anyone know how to set up dual-boot support when I already have Ubuntu on here? I'm trying to add WinXP.
[12:51] <sam1> it works
[12:51] <gordonjcp> Michael: well, basically anything you changed to set up ndiswrapper etc, make a copy of it
[12:51] <sam1> now it become in root
[12:51] <hacknslash> sam1: yay
[12:51] <hacknslash> sam1: yes
[12:51] <rafaelscj> BernieMac, is that the cause?
[12:51] <sam1> now ?
[12:51] <ThanatosDrive> !windows
[12:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:51] <BlackAlex> ndiswrapper? hey i tried to install that from source but it crashes
[12:51] <hacknslash> sam1: shall i start again ?
[12:51] <Netham45> is there a .deb package I can get of the restricted nvidia drivers?
[12:51] <sam1> yes
[12:51] <Netham45> the PC im installing doesn't have internet
[12:52] <Michael> gordonjcp: Sounds logical enough :)
[12:52] <der_bloodlust> Envy
[12:52] <Netham45> if so, where? I think I am missing it. :(
[12:52] <BernieMac> rafaelscj, could be, mine gets finicky with effects on, only vlc will run and I have to have it full screened on its own desktop and switch between then and another quickly for video to run
[12:52] <der_bloodlust> Netham45: try Envy
[12:52] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Essential repos" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <dirtyhand> hmm if i have a linux server set in my home lan shouldnt my laptop be able to ssh into it using the internal IP that the router gave it?
[12:52] <dirtyhand> without having to forward ports
[12:52] <MeRodent> Netham45, you can download the drivers from nvidia but you will need to compile them.
[12:52] <BernieMac> rafaelscj, I've heard other people have had the issue of audio and no video with effects on too
[12:52] <jrib> der_bloodlust: please do not recommend envy
[12:52] <Netham45> Ok
[12:52] <kitche> dirtyhand, yes but openssh-server needs to be installed
[12:52] <der_bloodlust> jrib: uh wtf
[12:53] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <CountX> can VirtualBox run 3d apps?
[12:53] <magnetron> dirtyhand: only if you have the ssh package installed on the server
[12:53] <sam1> yes no error now
[12:53] <rafaelscj> BernieMac, you're right, I got, thanks
[12:53] <dirtyhand> kitche: i just installed openssh-server and client
[12:53] <jrib> Netham45: you could download and burn the dvd iso, it should have it on there
[12:53] <BernieMac> rafaelscj, no prob
[12:53] <dirtyhand> and I can connect from the server ssh localhost
[12:53] <jrib> !envy > der_bloodlust (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:53] <BlackAlex> can i chat one on one with someone who understands laptops and installing ndiswarpper?
[12:53] <Netham45> I just need them
[12:53] <dirtyhand> but I cant from my laptop in the same lan magnetron
[12:53] <BlackAlex> im kinda new to linux... and need some one on one setting it up
[12:53] <sam1> command not found
[12:53] <dirtyhand> it says connection refused
[12:53] <der_bloodlust> whatever. worked for me
[12:54] <magnetron> dirtyhand: you have to control the SERVER when you install the ssh package
[12:54] <dirtyhand> huh?
[12:54] <Ar_Pharazon> Is there anyway to make the keyring manager not ask me for a password every time?
[12:54] <sam1> sorry its working now
[12:54] <kitche> !worksforme > der_bloodlust
[12:54] <magnetron> dirtyhand: installing the server package on the client wont help
[12:54] <sam1> next plz
[12:54] <mushroomjay> I need some help setting up a wireless router.
[12:55] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, with wifi?
[12:55] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Updates and bug fixes" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <dirtyhand> magnetron: I installed it on the server
[12:55] <[nrx] > moo.
[12:55] <der_bloodlust> lol all these bots.. wow
[12:55] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Yes, it has my wi-fi password and asks for it at every login.
[12:55] <dirtyhand> and from the server I can connect to itself @ ssh localhost
[12:55] <BlackAlex> hello?! i need help getting my new laptop working on wifi... and the ndiswrapper installation crashes...
[12:55] <BlackAlex> oh w/e
[12:55] <astro76> Ar_Pharazon, http://staff.xiaoka.com/smoku/2007/05/17/password-hell-resolved/
[12:55] <sam1> yes
[12:55] <dirtyhand> but from the client in the same lan it refuses the connection
[12:55] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <sam1> all is fine yet
[12:56] <Ar_Pharazon> merodent thank you
[12:56] <kringel> anyone here an expert about musepack audio?
[12:56] <rafaelscj> who know how to put a video as wallpaper? does VLC do this?
[12:56] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:56] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, if you don't roam you can set up manually and it won't ask.
[12:56] <kringel> mpc is working, though I'm afraid for the new streamversion 8 beta I have to recompile all the plugins, is that correct?
[12:56] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent What's roaming?
[12:56] <sam1> ok
[12:56] <jrib> rafaelscj: mplayer can with the "-rootwin" switch but you will have to tell nautilus not to draw the icons on your desktop
[12:56] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Security Updates" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <sam1> ok
[12:57] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent And If I clear the roaming checkbox then I can only select wep, my router uses wpa.
[12:57] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, when you change between wifi networks. IE if you only connect to one network turning off roaming will stop it asking for a password.
[12:57] <sam1> ok
[12:57] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <sam1> i m giving these commans with sudo
[12:58] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, OK. there is another way to fix it. Hang on and I'll try find the refference.
[12:58] <hacknslash> sam1: you should still be root
[12:58] <sam1> yes i m
[12:58] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Backports" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:58] <sam1> ok
[12:58] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <sam1> ok
[12:59] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get update
[12:59] <rafaelscj> jrib, nautilus?, how?
[12:59] <shad0w> !uninstall
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <dirtyhand> Is there a way to use apt-get to install apache2 so that it also enables all the proxy mods?
[01:00] <sam1> a process starts
[01:00] <dirtyhand> like when you install from a compile
[01:00] <jrib> rafaelscj: in gconf-editor, uncheck /apps/nautilus/preferencs/show_desktop
[01:00] <hacknslash> sam1: its updating the package list available
[01:00] <ZmaX_> fulio
[01:00] <hacknslash> sam1: but not installing anything yet
[01:00] <fulio> ZmaX_,
[01:01] <sam1> ok
[01:01] <XXer> Im using a 2GB thumb drive and every time I use it it takes longer to transfer files (only in ubuntu no windows),when I first started using the drive it took about 2min to transfer 700MB now it takes between 8 to 10 min.anyone know why this might be happening?
[01:01] <sam1> i will wait untill it stops
[01:01] <hacknslash> sam1: let me know when it finishes
[01:01] <sam1> ok
[01:01] <fulio> ZmaX_, you there?
[01:01] <sam1> n thanx pal
[01:01] <hacknslash> sam1: yw
[01:01] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:01] <Netham45> crap
[01:01] <ZmaX_> fulio: #ZmaX
[01:02] <Netham45> I now have like 3000 1kb zip files to make one big file
[01:02] <graft> can i somehow create groups of groups? i.e., i have about 40 users on my machine - rather than have to add every user to audio, dialout, printer, etc., groups every time, can i just add them all to a 'user' group, and then add the user group to those other groups?
[01:02] <Netham45> wrong button. =/
[01:02] <brandonperry> anyone know what a pxe-t04: missing node error means with tftpd?
[01:02] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, just go to the section on automatic keyring.
[01:02] <sam1> hacknslash plz come to pm
[01:02] <dirtyhand> Is there a way to use apt-get to install apache2 so that it also enables all the proxy mods?
[01:02] <Dave_> eww, xchat dumped me here
[01:03] <CountX> if i screwed up compiz how would i reinstall it
[01:03] <wil462> Thanks the backend works for my scanner
[01:05] <hacknslash> sam1: i cant see your pm
[01:05] <brandonperry> anyone know what a pxe-t04: missing node error means with tftpd?
[01:05] <dirtyhand> where is the sources.list file again
[01:05] <brandonperry> /etc/apt
[01:05] <[nrx] > dirtyhand: /etc/apt/
[01:06] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Do you mean the "WPA supplicant in 6.06" part? I have 7.04 .
[01:06] <hacknslash> sam1: you ready for the next command ?
[01:07] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, no just follow the instructions on automatic keyring. You can then leave roaming on.
[01:08] <sexcopter> hi, i'm looking at buying a graphics card to work in ubuntu, last time i bought one (some time ago), nvidia was the preferred choice because of better drivers. is this still the case or is ati a good option?
[01:08] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, it won't prompt you for a password and work as it does now.
[01:08] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent  oh... ok
[01:08] <dirtyhand> if I have a home server (using comcast) and also a registered domain, how can I make the domain point to my ip
[01:08] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent  wait, I can't do that.
[01:08] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, can't do what?
[01:08] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent  I can't connect to my wi-fi network for some reason
[01:08] <[nrx] > dirtyhand: have the current registrar or hosting provider change the A record in the dns zone file to point to your ip
[01:09] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, could you connect before?
[01:09] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Yes. Then I messed around with my ethernet connections, now they work but wireless doesn't.
[01:10] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, using ubuntu or ndiswrapper drivers?
[01:10] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent I am using ubuntu 7.04 but I don't know what ndiswrapper drivers are.
[01:11] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, then you're using the ubuntu drivers. Trust me if you were using ndiswrapper you'd know what they were.
[01:11] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Ok... So what might be the problem then?
[01:12] <_cerberus_> I have two computers connected via a crossover cable, both running dapper and I want to be able start a remote x session on one machine from the other, does anyone know how to do this? I've set DisallowTCP=false but when I try to ssh -X from the remote machine I get a terminal, but no X
[01:12] <hacknslash> sam1: u still here ?
[01:12] <sam1> yes i am
[01:12] <hacknslash> sam1: phew
[01:12] <hacknslash> sam1: i cant find u on pm
[01:12] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent I did iptable --flush, ifconfig to set my ethernet IP, and commented my unused interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:12] <sam1> why
[01:13] <hacknslash> sam1: how do u find people on pm
[01:13] <dn4> How do I get a web browser in ubuntu that is Internet Explorer with Active X controls
[01:13] <sam1> wait
[01:13] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, what interfaces did you comment out?
[01:13] <brandonperry> _cerberus_, ssh -X doesn't work that way
[01:13] <mindrape> dn4 - wine.  :)
[01:13] <_cerberus_> brandonperry, apparently, do you know how to achieve what I'm trying to do
[01:13] <greentea_> Something wrong with my sound driver / sound when i play music it lags and freeze
[01:13] <dn4> mindrape, that is a good idea, is there a way to install IE though?
[01:14] <greentea_> why does that happen
[01:14] <Ally-san> Why would oyu WANT To install IE?
[01:14] <sam1> i send amsg in pvt
[01:14] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent eth1, eth2, ath0. They were commented out before, when my wi-fi was working and ethernet wasn't. I'm using eth0 anyway, the others were slowing boot down.
[01:14] <MeRodent> dn4, No as microsoft don't support linux.
[01:14] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Could be ath1 and not ath0.
[01:14] <Ally-san> What are you trying to do that firefox won't do?
[01:14] <mindrape> dn4 - yes... you can get ie6 installer from MSs site and then install it via wine.
[01:14] <kitche> !ies4linux | dn4 mindrape
[01:14] <ubotu> dn4 mindrape: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[01:15] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[01:15] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, do you know what the wifi interface came up as when it worked?
[01:15] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent No.
[01:15] <Gionnie> hi
[01:15] <dn4> Ally-san,  I have to have Internet Explorer to do my www.mathxl.com homework for class :( unfortnately mathxl does not support linux, and I tried using a user agent switcher to IE 7 but it won't allow me to install math-player which requires active x
[01:15] <mindrape> type iwconfig... it will show potential interfaces for wifi
[01:15] <sam1> it finished hacknslask
[01:15] <hacknslash> sam1: i cant see one, you want to do gaim messaging ?
[01:15] <dn4> in other words I don't want to install windows if I don't have to
[01:16] <sam1> yes i m in gaim
[01:16] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Would it be "wlan0"?
[01:16] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, I'd try uncommenting them all. I'm not sure but I think ubuntu may use one of the eth or ath prefixes for wifi.
[01:16] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, It should be but it may be eth
[01:16] <dn4> thanks mindrape
[01:17] <disinterested> when i try to write to hdb1 it says permission denied?
[01:17] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent ok, restarting now
[01:17] <hacknslash> sam1: i still cant find your messages
[01:17] <dennis__> alright guys, got a problem.
[01:17] <sam1> ok chat here
[01:17] <dennis__> Trying to create a custom openbox sessin
[01:17] <joebob777as7> can someone help me troubleshoot scp (ssh)
[01:18] <davo_> yo
[01:18] <sam1> there is add in the bottom of this page
[01:18] <joebob777as7> permission denied, please try again / permission denied (publickey,password)
[01:18] <dennis__> but I want to use Avant window navigator
[01:18] <hacknslash> sam1: ok four more commands ok
[01:18] <sam1> ok
[01:18] <dennis__> However, it doesn't seem to recognise xcompmgr
[01:18] <davo_> anyone have issues with the mouse cursor disappearing in some applications like inscape or anything?
[01:18] <sam1> add me with my nick
[01:18] <dennis__> As in, xcompmgr has shadows and everything, but AWN still has the black bar
[01:18] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "## Reacocard - Tangerine, python-daap" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reacocard.list
[01:18] <dennis__> But it works in the regular GNOME session.
[01:18] <dennis__> What have I done wrong?
[01:18] <joebob777as7> davo_, look at ubuntu bugs
[01:19] <hacknslash> sam echo "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty reacocard" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reacocard.list
[01:19] <davo_> wheres the bugtracker again?
[01:19] <dennis__> anyone?
[01:19] <SlimeyPete> davo_: launchpad.net/ubuntu
[01:19] <SlimeyPete> iirc
[01:19] <davo_> thanks
[01:20] <c1|freaky> hi all. i currently have 3 partitions: 1st NTFS (windows) 2nd Linux Swap 3rd Linux / - I would like to: remove the swap, remove the windows partition, move the swap to the beginning of the HDD, resize the linux partition towards the swap, completely remove windows. is that possible? if yes, how?
[01:20] <dn4> mindrape, I notied the apt-get sources.list for the link you sent me has edgy and I am running fiesty
[01:20] <c1|freaky> i dont want to remove linux though
[01:20] <dn4> ist hre going to be a huge problem there?
[01:20] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent All uncommented but I can't connect.
[01:21] <joebob777as7> can someone help me troubleshoot scp (ssh)   \     permission denied, please try again / permission denied (publickey,password)
[01:21] <Ashfire908> how do you add a user to a group via command line
[01:21] <joebob777as7> c1|freaky, get gparted
[01:21] <c1|freaky> Ashfire908: u can do adduser <username> <groupname>
[01:21] <locellcount> Can someone point me in the direction of a good guide for mounting a windows network drive? CHeers!
[01:21] <c1|freaky> joebob777as7: does it work with gparted? the parted website says resizing partitions wihtout touching the filesystem wasnt yet possible
[01:21] <joebob777as7> locellcount, man smbmount
[01:21] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, mindrape suggested try iwconfig to see if there are wifi extensions.
[01:21] <locellcount> cheers!
[01:22] <joebob777as7> c1|freaky, it will move all of the partitions around. then you have other options for resizing if gparted doesn't work
[01:22] <locellcount> joebob777as7: don't have an entry for that. I've got 7.04 installed. I guess I need to install something?
[01:23] <hacknslash> sam1: u done that one ?
[01:23] <sam1> yes
[01:23] <c1|freaky> joebob777as7: do i need a recue CD or can i just do it while running ubuntu?
[01:23] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty reacocard" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reacocard.list
[01:23] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Ok, here's what iwconfig gave me: "Io: No extensions, eth0: no extensions, eth1: [9 lines of text] "
[01:23] <sam1> ok
[01:23] <hacknslash> sam1: echo "deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty reacocard" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reacocard.list
[01:24] <kjm> trying to share printer connected to Ubuntu machine to a windows box.  Click through all the windows screens, and reach a screen asking for login.  I enter a username and password which are correct, and am told '"You do not have access to the printer, try a different username and password."  Any tips?
[01:24] <joebob777as7> c1|freaky, when you download gparted you will burn it to a cd
[01:24] <hacknslash> sam1: this last one may take a couple of attempts
[01:24] <sam1> ok
[01:24] <sam1> ok
[01:24] <joebob777as7> locellcount, should be mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt/point
[01:24] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, then eth1 is your wireless card
[01:24] <hacknslash> sam1: wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg -O- | apt-key add -
[01:24] <c1|freaky> joebob777as7: ok, thx
[01:24] <joebob777as7> if that doesn't work you might try smbmount //server/share /mnt/point
[01:24] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[01:25] <mindrape> kjm - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-268245.html
[01:25] <joebob777as7> can someone help me troubleshoot scp (ssh)?     permission denied, please try again / permission denied (publickey,password)
[01:25] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent That's odd... It used to work with eth1 commented out. It's not commented out now though, why wouldn't it connect?
[01:25] <sam1> its finished
[01:25] <kjm> ty mindrape
[01:25] <kjm> just the kind of doc. I was looking for.
[01:26] <hacknslash> sam1: another update,      apt-get update
[01:26] <sam1> 100%[[01:26] <sam1> 04:25:04 (27.66 MB/s) - `-' saved [1682/1682] 
[01:26] <Pirate_Hunter> hi azureus crashes and i have pasted the error in pastebin - http://pastebin.ca/699018 please help me find a solution?
[01:26] <sam1> its finished updating
[01:27] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install mjpegtools mp3gain toolame lame mpeg2dec a52dec mplayer-nogui transcode mencoder vorbis-tools mp3splt audacity
[01:27] <sam1> ok
[01:27] <sam1> how i can chek it
[01:27] <hacknslash> sam1: hang on
[01:27] <sam1> ok
[01:27] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[01:27] <fruitbatJim> how do I append a folder to my path, please?
[01:27] <hacknslash> sam1: two more
[01:28] <branstrom> How do I get Totem to allow multiple windows open?
[01:28] <hacknslash> sam1: ready?
[01:28] <kjm> mindrape - I have gone through all of those steps already - and still cannot connect to printer from network.
[01:28] <sam1> yes
[01:28] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gnonlin libdvdcss2 w32codecs
[01:28] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, can you pastebin the output from iwconfig?
[01:29] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent  Sadly, no. I think not... Hang on.
[01:29] <Pirate_Hunter>  hi azureus crashes and i have pasted the error in pastebin - http://pastebin.ca/699018 please help me find a solution?
[01:29] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install apt-get install totem-xine
[01:29] <hacknslash> [edit] 
[01:29] <chiefinnovator> How do the change the owner on a directory to root?
[01:29] <sam1> ok
[01:29] <jessie_> chiefinnovator, "sudo chown root -R /directory/to/change/owner"
[01:29] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install apt-get install totem-xine
[01:29] <sam1> wait
[01:29] <sam1> error
[01:29] <chiefinnovator> jessie_, thanks I'll try it now
[01:29] <sam1> could not find
[01:30] <jessie_> sam1, "sudo apt-get install totem-xine"
[01:30] <jessie_> he double inserted or something.
[01:30] <sam1> ys
[01:30] <hacknslash> sam1: apt-get install banshee banshee-daap tangerine
[01:30] <sam1> broken package
[01:31] <sam1> still broken package
[01:31] <sam1> the last 3 comand got same error
[01:31] <InuNova> hi... when i try to install normal ubuntu 32 bit version it says Kernel Panic and something about IO-APIC... why can't i install i386 ubuntu ?
[01:31] <sam1> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[01:31] <sam1> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[01:31] <sam1> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[01:31] <sam1> or been moved out of Incoming.
[01:31] <jessie_> InuNova, have you tried a different burn with a slower burn speed?
[01:32] <InuNova> yes i have
[01:32] <joebob777as7> InuNova, try to verify cd
[01:32] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[01:32] <InuNova> yes i did that
[01:32] <hacknslash> sam1: have u done all the commands ive listed
[01:32] <sam1> yes
[01:32] <hacknslash> sam1: looks like ones been missed
[01:32] <sam1> \all
[01:32] <joebob777as7> InuNova, try it with --disable acpi or disable acpi on motherboard
[01:32] <navets> in linux i have less space and less words fit per line on my website then if i was using windows
[01:32] <sam1> no i m sure i gave all
[01:32] <navets> why is this?
[01:32] <Pirate_Hunter> hi azureus crashes and i have pasted the error in pastebin - http://pastebin.ca/699018 please help me find a solution?
[01:32] <jessie_> InuNova, well, not too much stuff causes kernel panics, but i would do as joebob777as7 said.
[01:33] <juannicolas> hello, can someone point me to an how to ipfowarding with ubuntu ?
[01:33] <hacknslash> sam1: can i mail you the list so u can check?
[01:33] <InuNova> jessie_: where i could close that apic ?
[01:33] <InuNova> *acpi
[01:33] <Tobster> Why is it impossibel to register on freenode
[01:33] <chiefinnovator> jesse, It still says the owner is me, not root?
[01:33] <acke_narrrrig> Hey guys i am looking for external tv-cards compatible for for ubuntu. Im in europe.. any suggestions?
[01:34] <sam1> ok
[01:34] <sam1> send me on yahgoo id
[01:34] <sam1> shazi729927@yahoo.com
[01:34] <chiefinnovator> jesse, nm, I had to reload in nautilus
[01:34] <joebob777as7> acke_narrrrig, google it. it is likely no one in here will have the immediate answer
[01:34] <sam1> same on hotmail
[01:34] <jessie_> InuNova, when you first have the boot splash, ie where there is the "boot from first disk, etc"  there should be something that says "more options"
[01:34] <Wolphie> Hey, can anybody help me setup an FTP server
[01:34] <jessie_> InuNova, f8, i  think.
[01:34] <acke_narrrrig> joebob777as7 okay thanks
[01:34] <joebob777as7> InuNova, i believe it's F6
[01:35] <branstrom> How do I get Totem to allow multiple windows open? Is it even possible?
[01:35] <jessie_> InuNova, then add "acpi=off"
[01:35] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent I could if you could help me fix the ethernet connection... I can ping both ways but can't see my shared folders.
[01:35] <Tobster> registering is harder then trying to run an external Linux game which is also impossible
[01:35] <joebob777as7> acke_narrrrig, also another good place to go is newegg.com and look at the user reviews and see which ones say anything about linux or search for your distro
[01:35] <sam1> n if i gave them again then it will override or install the new one ???
[01:36] <chiefinnovator> Ok, nautilus says my directory is owned by root, but when i try to run this command: sudo jk_cp jail_for_python/ /usr/bin/python
[01:36] <chiefinnovator>  It says "ERROR: /home/chiefinnovator/utilitymill_alpha/secure_run_research/jail_for_python is not owned by root:root!"
[01:36] <chiefinnovator> Does anyone have any ideas why it would do that?
[01:37] <joebob777as7> chiefinnovator, chown -R chiefinnovator ~/utilitymill_alpha/secure_run_research/
[01:38] <chiefinnovator> joebob777as7, so it wants the parent directory to be owned by root too?
[01:38] <locellcount> joebob777as7: Yup, that got the bugger! Cheers matey!
[01:38] <joebob777as7> chiefinnovator, root is you
[01:38] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[01:38] <jessie_> joebob777as7, not true. you are you. root is root.
[01:39] <jessie_> you can be root, but in ubuntu you rarely are.
[01:39] <joebob777as7> well true but he is sudo...
[01:39] <jessie_> joebob777as7, oh.... ok.
[01:39] <jessie_> i see now.
[01:41] <jessie_> wow. its really quiet all of the sudden.
[01:41] <joebob777as7> chiefinnovator, anything work:?
[01:41] <dn4> mindrape, thank you, I can now do my mathxl homework in ubuntu with out having to install windows
[01:41] <dn4> WOOOT!
[01:41] <usser> that's cause I joined )
[01:41] <Fluffy-Wuffy> anyone know the directory for Firestarter? I want to have it auto-start with each session but I need to find where it is and what command to use on it
[01:42] <joebob777as7> shhhh everyone quiet usser is around!
[01:42] <chiefinnovator> joebob777as7, I made secure_run_research owned by root
[01:42] <NemesisD> anyone know that when i log out or lock my display, rather than being truly blank, the image fades and just becomes dim? i'd prefer an actual blank screen
[01:42] <jessie_> joebob777as7, whys that?
[01:42] <chiefinnovator> joebob777as7, and now it wants the directory above that owned by root!
[01:42] <hacknslash> sam1: message away
[01:42] <branstrom> Hey, bump on my question about multiple windows in Totem above. Somebody must know the answer to this question.
[01:43] <joebob777as7> jesse, i was kidding he said it was quiet because he was here.
[01:43] <joebob777as7> chiefinnovator, what is it you are doing?
[01:43] <jessie_> joebob777as7, ahhh... i see. working on a .pdf, so i wasnt really paying attention.
[01:43] <hacknslash> sam1: u got it yet ?
[01:43] <chiefinnovator> joebob777as7, I'm using jailkit for the first time.  I want to create a jailed instance of the Python interpreter
[01:44] <jessie_> hey, whoever wanted the ip forwarding how to, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/64083-simple-ip-forwarding.html
[01:45] <hacknslash> sam1: u still here
[01:45] <irish_jnr> hi there. I need some help with partitioning. anyone willing to pm me. just a few questions?
[01:46] <Gallivan> Recently, I have been having sound problems.  When starting up I hear the little tune, but afterwards when attempting Counter Strike via Wine, or TeamSpeak, or YouTube via Firefox, no sound can be heard.  It's not my headphones and I recently re-DLed the alsa files.
[01:48] <hacknslash> sam1: i gotta go walk the dog, let me know how u get on
[01:48] <joebob777as7> Gallivan, does sound work in ubuntu and not in wine or not in either/
[01:48] <joebob777as7> ?
[01:48] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[01:48] <arely> salut
[01:48] <Psyber> hey everyone
[01:49] <Gallivan> joebob777as7: It works when loading up Ubuntu, but nothing afterwards.
[01:49] <arely> salut
[01:49] <joebob777as7> what does alsamixer show?
[01:49] <arely> a va
[01:49] <chiefinnovator> does anyone have any experience with jailkit?
[01:49] <Gallivan> joebob777as7: Everything's green and cranked up.
[01:49] <bruno> #salvador
[01:49] <Samus_Aran> could someone else with an up-to-date Ubuntu 7.04 try loading Dillo and tell me if it works ?
[01:49] <Psyber> does anyone know a way to set the default desktop-icon size in gnome?
[01:49] <Wyzard> I'm installing XUbuntu with the "alternate" install CD, using manual partitioning and setting up LVM, and each time I create a logical volume, the installer hangs for a minute or two before returning to the menu...  why is that?
[01:50] <joebob777as7> Gallivan, sounds like something else is accessing it... not sure continue to reask
[01:50] <arely> hi
[01:50] <wolferine> where does mount log errors to ?
[01:50] <Gallivan> joebob777as7: Thanks
[01:50] <Wyzard> looks like the delay has something to do with udev...  I see messages in the log saying "rendezvous with udev timed out for "vg0-root"; stat failed: no such file or directory"
[01:50] <NemesisD> anyone know that when i log out or lock my display, rather than being truly blank, the image fades and just becomes dim? i'd prefer an actual blank screen
[01:50] <joebob777as7> wolferine, dmesg
[01:51] <wolferine> messages actually
[01:51] <booster_614> does anyone know how to set up qjoykey on ubuntu 7.04 ???
[01:51] <panosru> When i try to install CVS it asks me to put in the cd rom of ubuntu, so i do but after that it still ask me to put the cd rom!:/
[01:52] <joebob777as7> panosru, go into synaptic and sources and remove the cd as a source then apt-get update and try again
[01:52] <Psyber> is it possible to change the default icon size for the gnome desktop?
[01:52] <syock> Does anyone know somewhere you can learn about building kernels? I need to know whether selecting K8 as processor family will force the kernel to use 64-bit instruction set or not
[01:52] <lemon_> pp
[01:53] <doit> sda
[01:53] <crysis> hey guys, I booted into live Ubuntu 7.04. where can I find my XP installation and all of its files?
[01:53] <_cerberus_> I'm trying to connect to a remote computer using "xinit -e ssh -XCfT user@server gnome-session -- :1" but whenever I do a box appares in the top left corner of the xwindow and ask for a password, I add the password and then X shuts down. What am I doing wrong?
[01:54] <felipernb> when i'm playing mp3 files (in amarok or rhythmbox, the sound is not ok, it's freezing sometimes, as if it was a problem with the buffer, or the processor was very busy, but it isnt. and other sounds, as flash movies on the browser there's no problem
[01:54] <felipernb> is there anything i can set to increase the buffer, or something like that?
[01:54] <MenZa> crysis: You'll have to mount it
[01:54] <MenZa> !mount | crysis
[01:54] <ubotu> crysis: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:54] <irish_jnr> ive resized my windows partiton from 90gb to 60gb leaving 30gb for ubuntu. during the installation when i choose "Guided - use the largest continuous free space" it should use the unformatted 30gb right?
[01:54] <crysis> menza, so its not automatic?
[01:54] <MenZa> crysis: It ought to be, but then you'd see it on your desktop.
[01:54] <crysis> ok thanks
[01:55] <panosru> joebob777as7, i found that once but i can't find this selection now, can you help me?
[01:55] <irish_jnr> can someone answer the partition question above^^
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> irish_jnr: I would not leave that up to chance
[01:55] <panosru> joebob777as7, ok i found it!:D
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> irish_jnr: just do it manually, it's quite easy in the GUI
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: i woudln't chance it.
[01:55] <crysis> !fstab
[01:55] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:56] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[01:56] <joebob777as7_> panosru: remind me? i just switched to my laptop
[01:56] <EbilPhish> syock:  pressing SHIFT+? on the option can give you some info, doesn't look like K8 selects 64bit since its in i386
[01:56] <Michael> where can I get a list of all the available effects for Ubuntu , applications, everything ?
[01:56] <panosru> joebob777as7, no prob, i found it!:D thanks for help ;)
[01:56] <irish_jnr> alright, ill try the manual method. i dont really know what im doing but the lappy is beside me so ill ask you lot..
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> so could someone with an up-to-date Ubuntu 7.04 try loading 'dillo' and tell me if it works or just sits there doing nothing ?
[01:56] <felipernb> is there anything i can set to increase the buffer, or something like that?
[01:57] <FusionMan> If a DVDRW drive shows up in BIOs, and nowhere in  Ubuntu...is it safe to assume it's an unsupported hardware?
[01:57] <Hwnd{Vsg21}> hola
[01:57] <syock> EbilPhish, I'm currently in the console-based configurator. Do I type in SHIFT-? followed by the selection?
[01:57] <jessie_> felipernb, i know there is, i just dont remember how. check the faq on amarok's website, "amarok.kde.org"
[01:57] <EbilPhish> syock: Just highlight the option and ?
[01:57] <Wyzard> syock: When I run "make menuconfig" on a 64-bit system, I have a completely different set of choices in that menu:  "AMD-Opteron/Athlon64", "Intel P4", "Intel Core2", and "Generic x86-64"
[01:57] <EbilPhish> syock: Or select the Help option
[01:58] <kepahe> hi there
[01:58] <syock> I see, thanks you two
[01:58] <Wyzard> syock: so the options you see for processor type when running menuconfig on a 32-bit OS are presumably all 32-bit options
[01:58] <EbilPhish> syock: I think if you are building on a 32bit system you will only beable to make 32bit image, unless you use the toolchain
[01:58] <irish_jnr> ok, im seeing my 2 partitions and my free space. do i create a new partition table or do i click on the free space and create a "New Partition"
[01:58] <FusionMan> Is there special instructions in existence to working with DVDRW drives?
[01:58] <syock> oooo
[01:58] <FusionMan> irish_njr, you have to shrink the existing, then add one.
[01:58] <SlimeyPete> FusionMan: they should "just work", in theory
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> FusionMan: he's already partitioned the drive pre-install, so it will be a bit different.
[01:59] <irish_jnr> i have shrunk the existing windows partition.
[01:59] <peonymuds> I had my computer unplugged for a long time and then I put the plug in again, then it wouldn't start. It turned itself off after half a second. I had it plugged in for a couple of days and now when I start it I get to that first thing you see on the screen which tells you what to press to access bios and shows temp, but it stops there, nothing more happens. Any ideas?
[01:59] <FusionMan> SlimeyPete; if not, it's unsupported?
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: my suggestion.
[01:59] <EbilPhish> syock:  Also a useful feature in the menuconfig is the '/' key, it allows you to search for a kernel option
[01:59] <Wyzard> FusionMan: The command-line tools are in a separate package, dvd+rw-tools I think, but you can burn DVDs with Nautilus or Brasero
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: completely remove the partitioons you've created, and leave your drive as one big partition again, then come back to the installer, adn use the installer to partition.
[01:59] <SlimeyPete> FusionMan: yeah... though it's still worth googling/searching launchpad for the model to see if there are any workarounds
[01:59] <FusionMan> Wyzard, it doesn't recognize the existence of the drive at all.
[02:00] <FusionMan> The brand of it is actually "Generic" according to bio.
[02:00] <EbilPhish> peonymuds:  Cna you actually get into the BIOS? It sounds like the battry died and wiped the settings
[02:00] <irish_jnr> Indygunfreak: i need to use windows aswell. theres more than me using the pc.
[02:00] <Wyzard> FusionMan: "bio" ?
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: i understand that.
[02:00] <FusionMan> BIOS
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> thats why i said, "change everything back to one big partition"(ie, a windows partition)
[02:00] <Wyzard> FusionMan: If your BIOS doesn't recognize your drive, that sounds like a bad cable or broken drive
[02:00] <panosru> does anyone knows a good app that converts flv to other video formats?
[02:01] <FusionMan> The BIOS does recognize it as "Generic"
[02:01] <panosru> on windows i used to use flash video encoder
[02:01] <irish_jnr> yeah, but when i tried that the installer just hung so i did it manually
[02:01] <Wyzard> FusionMan: There definitely aren't any special settings needed at the BIOS level...  a DVD burner is just a CD drive with some extra features
[02:01] <Wyzard> FusionMan: still, sounds like it isn't being properly detected
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: well, its gonna likely hang if you're using the prepartitioned space.
[02:01] <Wyzard> FusionMan: Try it in a different computer
[02:01] <FusionMan> I know all this.  The issue is strictly driver support.
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: you might want to consider the alternate install cd.
[02:01] <peonymuds> EbilPhish: Nope, nothing happens, I have to turn the computer off by holding the power button for a couple of seconds. Yeah I suspected it had to do with the battery since it started working again after being plugged in. But can it be fixed?
[02:02] <Wyzard> FusionMan: As far as Linux support is concerned, DVD drives speak ATAPI just like CD-ROM drives, and they use the same drivers
[02:02] <usser> panosru: ffmpeg does that
[02:02] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[02:02] <usser> panosru: although it's a command line program
[02:02] <Wyzard> FusionMan: (assuming it's PATA or SATA; if it's SCSI, naturally it speaks SCSI)
[02:02] <FusionMan> Wyzard, oh.  Would it be in /dev/scd01  ?
[02:02] <FusionMan> or something similar?
[02:02] <EbilPhish> peonymuds:  Try replacing the bettery, also as soon as you turn it on keep tapping the BIOS key, sometimes you can get into the bios befoure something causes it to freez lateron
[02:02] <panosru> usser, xm.. i will try it! Thanks!:D Do you know any GUI apps that do this work?
[02:03] <s2a> how do i use scanModem?
[02:03] <Wyzard> FusionMan: /dev/scd0 most likely, with symlinks from /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, /dev/dvd, and /dev/dvdrw
[02:03] <booster_614> hey guys i need some help.....im trying to install gyachi so ill have yahoo messanger with voice but i dont know how...can anyone help me out real quik ??
[02:03] <kepahe> i lost my task bar (the one below)
[02:03] <kepahe> can anybody help_
[02:03] <hendrixski> is it normal for sound cards to crash?
[02:03] <usser> panosru: I never used guis but I think mplayer has some encoding capabilities
[02:03] <EbilPhish> peonymuds: I once had a computer that required me to push the bios key on 2 seperate keyboards continuously every boot since the USB/PS2 was dodgy and by entering and exiting the BIOS the system was able to boot for some reason 
[02:04] <hendrixski> 'cause it's like if I play a video, or play music for a while eventually it just won't play anything
[02:04] <dug> booster_614: i can't help you, but there also is kopete for voice chat with yahoo
[02:04] <hendrixski> and it's REALLY annoying
[02:04] <panosru> usser, thanks mate!I will try them all!:D
[02:04] <s2a> to add bottom task bar click on top one
[02:04] <s2a> then
[02:04] <kepahe> hello
[02:04] <s2a> right click*&
[02:04] <s2a> and add new panel
[02:04] <s2a> and choose botom
[02:04] <hendrixski> I assume it's the sound card at least... is there a way to restart its service without having to reboot?
[02:04] <booster_614> well i heard that since yahoo started the captcha thing kapte wont enter the chat rooms
[02:04] <FusionMan> In dev/  is a single drive saved in both CDRW and CDrom?
[02:05] <rafaelscj> how do I to install kde?
[02:05] <hendrixski> 'cause it sucks rebooting just to be able to listen to sound.  anbody know how?
[02:05] <Wyzard> FusionMan: They're symlinks to the actual device file
[02:05] <rafaelscj> kdebase?
[02:05] <vehicl1> i want my computer to run "sudo modprobe -r psmouse" on startup (my thumstick tweaks and this solves everything, if i do it manually it taked like 5 minutes and everyone buy me enjoys my struggle)
[02:05] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, select KDE-desktop in add-remove or in synaptic
[02:05] <vehicl1> please help
[02:05] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, or if you're adventurous, try the command line... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <peonymuds> EbilPhish: The keyboard doesn't seem to work though, I noticed the LEDs are off. Oh well, I guess I'll just try and find a new motherboard if it doesn't magically start working tommorrow :)
[02:05] <hendrixski> !ask vehicl1
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask vehicl1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> hendrixski: he did ask.
[02:06] <hendrixski> IndyGunFreak, didn't see it... my bad
[02:06] <rafaelscj> hendrixski, I couldn't find kde-desktop i synaptics
[02:06] <vehicl1> anyone?   startup script with one line of code "sudo modprobe -r psmouse"
[02:06] <dug> vehicl1: see this tutorial: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[02:07] <EbilPhish> peonymuds:  Sounds like you BIOS might not support USB at boot (by default anyway), You can try getting a PS2 converter if its just a reset battery then you only need to use it to ok the settings once
[02:07] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, errr.. oops, it may be kubuntu-desktop
[02:07] <vehicl1> thanks
[02:07] <vehicl1> man im useless
[02:07] <Michael> besides beryl, are there any more programs for effects ?
[02:07] <peonymuds> EbilPhish: It's a PS2 keyboard.
[02:07] <kepahe> can anybody help with workspace dissaperance
[02:07] <FusionMan> desktop effects?
[02:07] <jessie_> Michael, compiz and compiz-fusion
[02:07] <rafaelscj> hendrixski, thanks
[02:07] <kepahe> please?
[02:07] <jessie_> compiz and beryl have combined tho, hence compiz-fusion.
[02:08] <EbilPhish> peonymuds:  Might be worth trying a usb one then if you have one around, PS2 ports die sometimes
[02:08] <hhp21> Hey guys, why is it that the same monitors with the same screen resolution make ubuntu look a lot.. larger than windows? The font size, in particular.
[02:08] <hendrixski> kepahe, workspace dissapearances?
[02:08] <Michael> Thank you :)
[02:08] <FusionMan> kepahe, did you turn on Cube Desktop?
[02:08] <irish_jnr> alright, im re-creating the windows partition and im gonna run the installer again. hope to god this works
[02:08] <peonymuds> EbilPhish: I don't so I'll just hope for the magic :) Thanks for the help though
[02:08] <jessie_> Michael, no prob.
[02:08] <kepahe> yes hendrixki
[02:08] <s2a> right click on a panel and add to panel then u got ur workspace wen u select the worspace thign and click add
[02:08] <jessie_> k, see u guys later.
[02:08] <hhp21> hgfjgf
[02:08] <Pelo> hhp21, I wondered the same thing but I learned to live with it
[02:09] <EbilPhish> peonymuds:  nps, also try jiggling the ps2 plug 
[02:09] <sigix> guys/gals, I got a SATA drive formatted with ext2 and install ubuntu it reports no errors but get Error: 17 when trying to boot, any ideas?
[02:09] <hendrixski> kepahe, if you type hen then hit tab it'll autocomplete my name.. and I'll see your text in a red color :-)
[02:09] <hhp21> Pelo: I've been trying to live with it :(
[02:09] <s2a> does any1 no how to get scanModem to detect what modem I have in my laptop?
[02:09] <hendrixski> kepahe, I'm not sure what you mean by workspace disspaearances?
[02:09] <FusionMan> sigix, is it marked boot in flags?
[02:09] <Pelo> sigix, hold on , ILl check the list
[02:09] <hhp21> But I just can't. It bothers me every time I'm on my windows machine.
[02:09] <sigix> FusionMan: yes
[02:09] <peonymuds> Michael: Beryl and Compiz have joined forces and Compiz-Fusion is the result.
[02:10] <dug> hhp21: did you try system->preferences->fonts to change to a smaller font?  I actually increased my font size on my laptop
[02:10] <s2a> WORKSPACE DISSAPEARANCE...right click on panel then select add to panel then select workspace switcher and click add!
[02:10] <kepahe> sorry to be a pain, but doesnt work
[02:10] <hendrixski> oh
[02:10] <Pelo> sigix, 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[02:10] <Pelo>     This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.
[02:10] <kepahe> when i change to the second workspace all the bars disapeard on this second one
[02:10] <Pelo> sigix,  but I think ext3 is prefered
[02:10] <sigix> hmm... ext2 is not supported then?
[02:10] <Pelo> sigix, do you get the message when you select the os to boot ?
[02:11] <hendrixski> kepahe, by bars you mean the applications listed at the bottom of the screen?
[02:11] <vehicl1> "Write a script. put it in the /etc/init.d/ directory.
[02:11] <sigix> doesn't even get that far
[02:11] <vehicl1>   Lets say you called it FOO. You then run"
[02:11] <rafaelscj> how can I install a package without the "updating" packages?
[02:11] <EbilPhish> sigix:  http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html#stage2
[02:11] <sigix> stage 1.5 error
[02:11] <kepahe> yes hendrisxski
[02:11] <vehicl1> is that just an empty file that linux will recognize?
[02:11] <Pelo> sigix, is it possible that the partition is not flagged to boot ?
[02:11] <FusionMan> kepahe, workspaces are temperamental and will refuse to work if they're angry with you.
[02:11] <rafaelscj> I mean the dependencies
[02:11] <hendrixski> oh.. :-)  kepahe  it's supposed to do that... it only displays the applications running in that workspace :-)
[02:12] <hendrixski> I dunno if there's a way to change that though
[02:12] <kepahe> hello
[02:12] <Pelo> hello kepahe
[02:12] <hendrixski> oh.. :-)  kepahe  it's supposed to do that... it only displays the applications running in that workspace :-)
[02:12] <dug> vehicl1: the script is a text file (say you call it "removemouse.sh") where you put that command.  Then type "chmod 755 removemouse.sh" and run the update-rc.d command like in the tutorial
[02:12] <sigix> Pelo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/219/
[02:12] <s2a> this irc thing got me dizzy, if u dint figure out worksspace thing, PM me on ubuntuforums, I am user s3a
[02:12] <Pelo> sigix, waht is that ?
[02:13] <hendrixski> kepahe, when you switch to another workspace it'll show that other workspaces applications  even the minimized ones
[02:13] <dug> how do you show the cube when you enable desktop effects?
[02:13] <sigix> output from fdisk (see the boot flag)
[02:13] <EbilPhish> dug: CTRL+ALT+DRAGMOUSE on desktop
[02:13] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, updating is a good thing... it makes sure that you have all the latest stuff :-)
[02:13] <kepahe> when i swap to the other workspace, i jump to another area with not panel, not upper or lower
[02:13] <Pelo> sigix, maybe the ppl in #grub can help , I'm stumped
[02:13] <hendrixski> kepahe, oh... that's different
[02:14] <dug> EbilPhish: I only seem to have one workspace now after enabling desktop effects
[02:14] <Wyzard> sigix: boot flags are not necessary on Linux partitions
[02:14] <Bozza> could someone please help me installing my gdx card . its a radeon 9600
[02:14] <hendrixski> kepahe, did you set up dual monitor displays or anything?
[02:14] <kepahe> ah sorry
[02:14] <sigix> Pelo: ok, thx.
[02:14] <wolferine> anyone want to battle with NFS with me, I need someone very knowledgeable in it
[02:14] <sigix> Wyzard, any ideas then?
[02:14] <EbilPhish> sigix:  Error 17 says invalid device specified, sometimes USB drives and other crap can reorder it
[02:14] <Wyzard> sigix: They're inappropriate, actually, though it doesn't matter if you're using GRUB
[02:14] <kepahe> no that i know off
[02:14] <usser> Bozza: was that you yesterday?
[02:14] <Pelo> kepahe,  you have compiz running ? I think you can fix that ask in #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects they'll know
[02:14] <Bozza> yea
[02:14] <FusionMan> Speaking of dual monitor prefrences.  where are they?  restricted driver?
[02:14] <rafaelscj> hendrixski, I can't update alsa because sound wont work
[02:14] <Bozza> i am still having trouble installing the card
[02:14] <usser> Bozza: bah still struggling
[02:14] <Bozza> yea
[02:15] <EbilPhish> dug:  Might be worth looking at using the compiz fusion repos rather than the basic desktop effects, there a lot nicer stuff in em
[02:15] <Mr_> Does anybody know a good place to find themes/skins for Ubuntu 7.4?
[02:15] <kepahe> any clues hendrixski)
[02:15] <Bozza> i heard there is a way to install xgl and ati drivers
[02:15] <joebob777as7_> Mr_, gnome-look.org
[02:15] <Pelo> !theme | Mr_
[02:15] <ubotu> Mr_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:15] <EbilPhish> Mr_:  gnome-look.org
[02:15] <Spoom> hi, i have a core 2 duo merom, should i download the 64-bit iso or stick with the 32-bit?
[02:15] <Mr_> Thanks
[02:15] <hendrixski> kepahe,  hhmmm, then I may not be able to help you... I haven't heard of that happening ,,, my guess would be to reconfigure your xorg maybe?  or your gnome?
[02:15] <rafaelscj> I want to install kubuntu-desktop without updating openoffice
[02:15] <FusionMan> spoom, 32 worked for me.
[02:15] <usser> Spoom: stick with 32
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Spoom: if you have to ask, stick with 32bit.
[02:15] <pwnd_> Ubuntu recognizes my ethernet card, but does not recognize it as a network card. I have Fa133 netgear card and feisty
[02:15] <Pelo> Spoom,  sticck to 32 unless you have a real need for 64
[02:16] <Bozza> someone must have installed their gfx card before .. is no one using radeon ???
[02:16] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, oh.. then if you do it through synaptic doesn't it ask you which packages you want and which ones you don't want?
[02:16] <panosru> how to use ffmpeg?
[02:16] <usser> Bozza: I do ))
[02:16] <Bozza> oh
[02:16] <Bozza> so how did you install it
[02:16] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, just deselct the ones dealing with alsa?
[02:16] <Pelo> panosru,  m;an ffmpeg
[02:16] <Spoom> only real need i would have is pcsx2 and some other stuff that is coded for 64 but is there a lot of stuff that won't work with a 64-bit kernel?
[02:16] <Bozza> or are you using the pre installed drivers
[02:16] <usser> panosru: well pretty easy actually say you want to reencode 1.flv
[02:16] <Pelo> panosru,  man ffmpeg
[02:16] <FusionMan> Where would Dual Monitor settings be?
[02:16] <TylerOderkirk> anybody know what format dmesg's timestamps are in?
[02:16] <Bozza> usser: how did you install your drivers ?
[02:17] <usser> panosru: something like that will suffice ffmpeg -i video.flv -vcodec mpeg4 video.avi
[02:17] <Pelo> Spoom,  nvidia and ati drivers,  no flash  , some other stuff also but I don'T know what
[02:17] <Spoom> 32 it is ;^)
[02:17] <usser> Bozza: from ati server
[02:17] <hendrixski> is it normal for a sound card to just crash?
[02:17] <hendrixski> where like it just stops playing sound
[02:17] <usser> Bozza: following the ubuntu binary driver howto
[02:17] <Pelo> hendrixski, crashes are not normal no
[02:17] <hendrixski> int he middle of a song or video
[02:17] <gerro> hendrixski: turn pcm and master up
[02:17] <Bozza> oh ok .. could you give me a link please to the howto
[02:17] <rafaelscj> hendrixski, synaptics doesn't allow me to deselect, does apt-get allow this?
[02:17] <axz> !svn
[02:17] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[02:18] <usser> !ati | Bozza
[02:18] <ubotu> Bozza: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <Pelo> hendrixski, check the speaker plug and power
[02:18] <Wyzard> Pelo: nVidia works fine on amd64...  I'm using it right now
[02:18] <irish_jnr> wtf...during the installation to resize and install. "Resize operation failure...error occurred while writing changes"
[02:18] <hendrixski> gerro, oh, is that related
[02:18] <Bozza> thanks so much usser
[02:18] <gerro> hendrixski: if headphones are plugged in then speakers are muted
[02:18] <hendrixski> Pelo, did that
[02:18] <chiefinnovator> Anyone know anything about jailkit?
[02:18] <hendrixski> rafaelscj, I'm not sure that it does... if so I don't know how
[02:18] <kepahe> can anybody help, i am trying to set up the default settings to see the panels (upper/lower) in one of my workspaces
[02:18] <rafaelscj> hendrixski, okay
[02:18] <usser> panosru: there are of course many other options for which consult man ffmpeg
[02:18] <gerro> hendrixski: try adding mixer app to your panel and adjusting it
[02:18] <Bozza> usser: also . does compiz work for you with the bin driver you installed
[02:18] <irish_jnr> anyone help with that problem ^^
[02:19] <Spoom> thanks btw guys
[02:19] <Pelo> kepahe,  you mean have a different pannels in different workspaces ?
[02:19] <hendrixski> gerro, no headphones plugged in... is there a system service that runs alsa that I can restart?
[02:19] <usser> Bozza: yes it does with xgl, however I don't suggest you use compiz with xgl and ati its way to laggy and crashes every 5 minutes
[02:19] <hendrixski> 'cause if rebooting it fixes the problem, then I suspect that being able to restart a service should be able to fix it as well
[02:19] <pwnd_> Ubuntu recognizes my ethernet card, but does not recognize it as a network card. I have Fa133 netgear card and feisty
[02:19] <vehicl1> ok....   it says im not the owner of my computer, so i cant make a new file or drag+drop into the "init.d" folder
[02:19] <panosru> usser, what when i have spaces in flv name?
[02:20] <usser> Bozza: get nvidia card or wait for new open source ati drivers which will come out pretty soon I guess
[02:20] <Bozza> usser:thanks ill check out xgl anyway
[02:20] <gerro> hendrixski: no but can you pull up the volume controls and make sure pcm and master are set to some audible level
[02:20] <FusionMan> pwnd, I had a hard time with netgear
[02:20] <Bozza> thanks man
[02:20] <Pelo> pwnd_, try looking up hte model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:20] <panosru> usser, do i have to replace them by underscore ?
[02:20] <usser> panosru: spaces in linux are denoted by \
[02:20] <EbilPhish> vehicl1:  You need root access: ALT+F2 'gksudo nautilus', use that window
[02:20] <nazgul> I have installed swat (samba web admin). i can see the entry in /etc/inetd.conf but I cannot connect to host:901. how do i activate swat?
[02:20] <fatcatmatt> what up, usser?
[02:20] <hendrixski> gerro, they are... i haven't changed them
[02:20] <pwnd_> Pelo, I have
[02:20] <FusionMan> pwnd_, I actually switched cards because of it.  I'm pretty sure it's incompatible.
[02:20] <usser> panosru: note space after slash
[02:20] <panosru> usser, can you give me an excample ?
[02:20] <usser> fatcatmatt: hey what's happening
[02:20] <hendrixski> part of the problem is that once this crash happens then videos play at like one frame per second
[02:20] <vehicl1> i <3 everyone here
[02:21] <pwnd_> FusionMan, actually, in the changelog, they provided support
[02:21] <usser> panosru: cd Program\ Files
[02:21] <vehicl1> theres no reason for you to help me
[02:21] <Wyzard> Pelo: btw, gutsy will probably support Flash on amd64 via nspluginwrapper...  I have it working now on Debian unstable
[02:21] <gerro> hendrixski: I know there was a problem with sound card on one of my computers where if a certain switch was turned on it muted everything, try messing with switches on your mixer
[02:21] <fatcatmatt> usser: not much right now, just woke up.  brb
[02:21] <EbilPhish> 
[02:21] <FusionMan> pwnd_, good look.
[02:21] <panosru> usser, oooh i c like in PHP to escape characters ! thanks ;)
[02:21] <FusionMan> luck*
[02:21] <Pelo> Wyzard, thanks for the heads up
[02:21] <hendrixski> gerro, k  I'll tinker with the switches....
[02:21] <pwnd_> "Well, I've received my Netgear FA311 card this morning. Have just installed it, booted into Ubuntu, and in system/networking the ethernet connection was listed, started Firefox and straight online, no problems yet."
[02:21] <usser> panosru: exactly ))
[02:21] <pwnd_> Liar
[02:21] <hendrixski> i gtg
[02:21] <Wyzard> Pelo: still no 64-bit Java plugin though
[02:21] <hendrixski> if the switches don't work I'll try again here later
[02:21] <dug> vehicl1: try the terminal (under applications->accessories) and type "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/removemouse.sh" (or whatever name of script will be)
[02:21] <Pelo> later folks
[02:22] <gerro> hendriski: check forums if still can't fix it, if all else fails then reinstall alsa through synaptci
[02:22] <gerro> synaptic I mean
[02:22] <dug> type your admin password after you type the sudo command vehicl1
[02:22] <crysis> Help: I cannot mount an NTFS filesystem!
[02:22] <usser> Wyzard: what do you mean blackdown java works on 64
[02:22] <panosru> usser, works just perfect! thanks ;)
[02:22] <joebob777as7_> crysis, you have to install ntfs-tools or something like that  in add remove
[02:23] <Wyzard> usser: I mean Sun Java, sorry...  dunno about Blackdown
[02:23] <crysis> i did, joebob
[02:23] <panosru> usser, now i have to find out why PDT don't install on my Eclipse!!! :P LOL
[02:23] <kepahe> can anybody help, i am trying to set up the default settings to see the panels (upper/lower) in one of my workspaces
[02:23] <EbilPhish> crypto:  aptget and run ntfs-config
[02:23] <Wyzard> usser: There's 64-bit Sun Java, but it doesn't include the browser plugin for some reason
[02:23] <dirtyhand> sudo update-rc.d mongrel_cluster defaults  what is this command doing?
[02:23] <dug> vehicl1: then you can enter your script (the modprobe command), save & close, then type "sudo chmod 755 /etc/init.d/removemouse.sh" and "sudo update-rc.d /etc/init.d/removemouse.sh defaults"
[02:23] <fatcatmatt> usser: okay im back.  i reinstalled and it seems to be doing much better
[02:23] <usser> Wyzard: hm strange
[02:23] <EbilPhish> crypto:  Sometimes it will be a massive pain about unclean journals where you turnof windows without shutting down and stuff
[02:23] <usser> fatcatmatt: youtube's okay eh?
[02:24] <fatcatmatt> usser: so far, only watched about 10 videos on there
[02:24] <vehicl1> both those methods worked thanks guys
[02:24] <crysis> joebob777as7_ it says "Mounting /media/winhdd failed."
[02:24] <FusionMan> some link to the offtopic chat?
[02:24] <usser> Wyzard: there's like tons of that java-re in the repos, blackdown is sun java only it is always one version behind
[02:24] <joebob777as7_> crysis, did you install ntfs-tools or whatever it's called?
[02:24] <Tom47> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:24] <crysis> i did
[02:24] <dug> !offtopic | FusionMan
[02:24] <ubotu> FusionMan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:24] <joebob777as7_> crysis, did you run it?
[02:24] <crysis> yeah
[02:25] <joebob777as7_> crysis, and you checked the box?
[02:25] <crysis> i get the screen where i can enabled write support, which i try to
[02:25] <Wyzard> usser: I'm actually running Debian on this box, and Debian has Sun Java packages...  I'm surprised if Ubuntu doesn't, actually
[02:25] <crysis> and i get an error message
[02:25] <joebob777as7_> crysis, did you reboot after?
[02:25] <Madne1> guys
[02:25] <Madne1> what source code is compatible with ubuntu?
[02:25] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Check 'dmesg | tail', and try ntfsfix on it
[02:25] <crysis> joebob777as7_ i can't reboot, i'm in live
[02:25] <SlimeyPete> any code which you can install a compiler for, Madne1
[02:26] <Wyzard> Madne1: Do you mean languages?  Specific programs?
[02:26] <crysis> read this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37576/
[02:26] <Madne1> i keep finding various source codes like tarball
[02:26] <Wyzard> Madne1: Be more specific
[02:26] <SlimeyPete> there are compilers for almost all languages.
[02:26] <Madne1> debian RPM
[02:26] <Madne1> yeah those compilers
[02:26] <Wyzard> Madne1: RPM is for RedHat-based systems, not Debian-based systems such as Ubuntu
[02:26] <dug> Madne1: ubuntu uses .deb files, also you can install from tar.gz or tar.bz2 source packages
[02:26] <Madne1> ahh so ubuntu uses debian
[02:26] <Wyzard> Madne1: Tarballs are tar.gz files, which are a common way of distributing source code for people to compile
[02:26] <Madne1> okok thanks
[02:26] <_cerberus_> When I try to open firefox on a remote computer who's output is being tunnled to the local one via ssh I get an error saying that firefox is already running but is not responding and that Imuist close that version of firefox first. Is there a way around this? There is another instance of firefox running on the remote machine but it is running fine.
[02:26] <usser> Madne1: you'd wanna stick with deb
[02:26] <joebob777as7_> crysis, i think you have to restart. get a gutsy live cd that should do it
[02:26] <Madne1> ok thanks guys
[02:26] <Wyzard> Madne1: but rather than compiling things from source, it's preferable to use Ubuntu's packages
[02:27] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Try the force option?
[02:27] <JediMaster> hey guys, does anyone here use the AMD64bit release of gusty?
[02:27] <SlimeyPete> Madne1: those are packages, not source :) though they may contain source
[02:27] <Madne1> oh yeah and how do i compile?
[02:27] <dug> Madne1: yes, except debian and ubuntu often each have their own .deb files that are a little different
[02:27] <crysis> gutsy live? that's the newest?
[02:27] <JediMaster> crysis: yeah
[02:27] <Wyzard> Madne1: If you're a beginner, don't
[02:27] <Madne1> yeah, been looking for the .deb file types but most i see are sources
[02:27] <crysis> joebob777as7_, does it automount?
[02:27] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Do you actually need write access or is read good enough?
[02:27] <crysis> i guess read is good enough
[02:27] <crysis> i wanna save some data from my corrupted xp
[02:27] <Wyzard> Madne1: Compiling and installing software from source code is more of an advanced thing
[02:28] <dug> Madne1: in the terminal (under applications->accessories), run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and you will have the basic c/C++ compilers
[02:28] <Madne1> :) ok.... where can i read up on that? forums?
[02:28] <EbilPhish> crysis:  then try mounting it manually with '-t ntfs'
[02:28] <scguy318> !make | Madne1
[02:28] <ubotu> Madne1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:28] <crysis> ebilphish, ok
[02:28] <sky1> is there anyway I can compare between a character and a string, the string is a two dimentional array, and I stored ')' in one of them, how can I compare it with a ')' now < when I do regular comparison it shows comparison between pointer and integer')
[02:28] <Wyzard> Madne1: You generally won't find Ubuntu .deb files out on the websites of individual apps...  they're all in Ubuntu's package repository, which you can browse with Synaptic
[02:28] <EbilPhish> NTFS is alot more anoying to mount unclean than the default readonly ntfs
[02:28] <elzo> anybody know how to change ownership of files/directory of NTFS drive, without going through Windows XP?  i.e. straight from ubuntu
[02:28] <usser> sky1: is that c or shell or perl???
[02:28] <Wyzard> Madne1: Installing packages with Synaptic is the preferred way to install software
[02:28] <sky1> it is c
[02:28] <_cerberus_> sky1, wrong channel
[02:28] <EbilPhish> elzo:  I don't think thats possible from Linux
[02:28] <Wyzard> sky1: ##c
[02:29] <Madne1> synaptic?
[02:29] <sky1> ok
[02:29] <scguy318> elzo: if you mean mount permissions, then yer fstab
[02:29] <Madne1> !synaptic
[02:29] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:29] <usser> sky1: if(array[i] [j] ==')')
[02:29] <JediMaster> can anyone tell me, is there a real difference between the x86 and amd64 bit releases of ubuntu in terms of performance while running on a 64 bit processor?
[02:29] <elzo> scguy318: nope, but i want to read some files in user directories after mounting them.
[02:29] <Madne1> synaptic is the add/remove GUI?
[02:29] <usser> sky1: of course you have to have it in two loops
[02:29] <scguy318> elzo: when you mount, everything should be accessible
[02:29] <scguy318> Madne1: yes, System -> administration -> Synaptic
[02:30] <scguy318> Madne1: Add/Remove is simply a dumbed down interface
[02:30] <dug> Madne1: yes, go to the menu System->Administration and you will see Synaptic Package Manager
[02:30] <elzo> scguy318: yes everything is accessible.  but i tried to scp some data in a user directory out, and it says "permission denied"
[02:30] <elzo> scguy318: other files outside user directory can be scp-ed out
[02:30] <vehicl1> dug would you mind if i pm you quickly?
[02:30] <EbilPhish> Madne1:  Add/Remove is diffrent program but the same kind of thing
[02:30] <scguy318> elzo: whats the ownership for those files?
[02:30] <scguy318> elzo: NTFS -> ext3 is what you are trying to do?
[02:30] <dug> vehicl1: i think freenode doesn't allow messaging unless you register with them (which I havent' )
[02:31] <elzo> scguy318: yes
[02:31] <Madne1> ahh
[02:31] <vehicl1> me either
[02:31] <vehicl1> ill ask here
[02:31] <elzo> scguy318: i think they are under some non-administrative user account on winxp
[02:31] <Madne1> ok so its better to use synaptic for those hard to find or compile software?
[02:31] <scguy318> elzo: when NTFS is mounted on Linux, root becomes the owner of all the files, unless you specify otherwise
[02:32] <astro76> !packages | Madne1
[02:32] <ubotu> Madne1: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[02:32] <scguy318> elzo: so, there should be zero restrictions on copy operations on NTFS part
[02:32] <scguy318> elzo: perhaps the destination is the issue?
[02:32] <Madne1> thanks
[02:32] <elzo> scguy318: that's right.  but i can access some of the root files, but not some (eventhough their file permissions are the same)
[02:32] <vehicl1> that walkthrough was horrible for me, either way i found another way to execute a small command that i can do easier (plus it will be easier for the future when i want to add small scripts).  If i edit the rc.local script within /ect I can just add a script to that butit says some things i dont quite follow:
[02:32] <EbilPhish> Madne1:  Yeh, synaptic is more advanced although personally i prefer 'apt-cache search findname' and apt-get
[02:32] <Wyzard> Madne1: Use synaptic *first*, and only if there's no package, then start thinking about compiling
[02:33] <elzo> scguy318: specifically, those under the user directories, i.e. Document and Settings/someguy/*  cannot be accessed.
[02:33] <vehicl1> #!/bin/sh -e   #   # rc.local   #   # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel.   # Make sure that the script will "exit 0" on success or any other   # value on error.   #   # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution   # bits.     By default this script does nothing.     exit 0
[02:33] <elzo> scguy318: everything else outside Document and Setting/ ../ etc can be
[02:33] <EbilPhish> Madne1:  I don't think synaptic will let you compile anything
[02:33] <Madne1> actually i'm addicted to nethack and wanted to try out vulture's version
[02:33] <scguy318> elzo: try mounting with umask=000
[02:33] <Madne1> had to compile it and not sure how :)
[02:33] <Wyzard> Madne1: Actually, use Synaptic to look for packages first, then look for third-party unofficial packages, and only then should you consider compiling
[02:33] <Madne1> may as well learn ;)
[02:33] <elzo> scguy318: ok i'll give that a shot.
[02:34] <g0dd3ss> does anyone use wicd? i was wanting to install it but it conflicts with network manager and wifi radar, sooo I guess i have to uninstall those first?
[02:34] <Wyzard> Madne1: nethack is packaged, though a custom version probably isn't
[02:34] <Madne1> yeah nethack line is ok
[02:34] <Wyzard> Madne1: You might also be interested in ToME, (http://www.t-o-m-e.net/), which is packaged as "tome"
[02:34] <scguy318> elzo: you could try using NTFS-3G to mount ro, i know for a fact that on Linux the NTFS ACLs are ignored
[02:35] <dirtyhand> so Apache2 for Ubuntu doesnt use httpd.conf ?
[02:35] <dug> vehicl1: the page has a few tips on making startup scripts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto  See the "Installing custom init-scripts" section
[02:35] <Madne1> cool!
[02:35] <lightenup> question... I was wondering, is there a command I can run that will list my hardware to /dev/<mount> mappings? For example how can I tell which usb camera is bound to /dev/video3 ?
[02:35] <Wyzard> dirtyhand: see apache2.conf and the various subdirectories in /etc/apache2
[02:35] <Madne1> nice wyzard! I love DnD types and fantasy RPG
[02:35] <elzo> scguy318: i hope so! :)
[02:36] <Wyzard> Madne1: ToME is more fun than nethack IMO
[02:36] <elzo> scguy318: that's what i've been reading on forums, but i'm getting all these access denied.  so i'm trying knoppix now.
[02:36] <fatcatmatt> usser: i am sitting outside smoking, workin on the laptop, and i tossed my lit cigarette butt into my spaghetti butt can...and all my old cigarette butts started burning...smells like a bar-b-que now
[02:36] <scguy318> elzo: are you sure the destination isn't the issue?
[02:36] <VousDeux> well, I did have to go in and poke it with a stick, but it booted just fine and even gave me an nVidia splash before the logon screen
[02:36] <elzo> scguy318: yup, because i copied some other files from other non-restricted directories, and those worked fine.
[02:37] <usser> fatcatmatt: hehe, I know that smell ))
[02:37] <scguy318> elzo: i guess try ntfs-3g, weird
[02:37] <crysis> EbilPhish: I tried 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd' but I don't think it worked
[02:37] <fatcatmatt> nasty bar-b-que smell, usser :(
[02:37] <VousDeux> it just keeps getting better :) I sure do appreciate all of the great help in here
[02:37] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Did it throw an error?
[02:37] <_cerberus_> OK , a new one. I'm using a computer through a remote X connection, if I runn an applicatino such as xmms all music is played on the remote computer, is there a way to have sound on the computer I'm currently using rather than the computer I'm connecting to?
[02:37] <fatcatmatt> i wish i could get microsoft streets and trips 2007 going on ubuntu :S
[02:38] <crysis> EbilPhish, I don't think anything happened
[02:38] <EbilPhish> EbilPhish:  If it didn't produce any message then it should have worked
[02:38] <progek> I just installed a Linksys Wireless G PCI card. It is detected (iwconfig) but when I try to connect to my network it doesn't. Any ideas?
[02:38] <EbilPhish> crysis* /\
[02:38] <EbilPhish> Way to talk to myself :/
[02:38] <crysis> i cant see it mounted to anywhere
[02:38] <usser> fatcatmatt: how about google earth not exactly the same but
[02:39] <crysis> ebilfish: my hdd device is /dev/sda1
[02:39] <fatcatmatt> usser: gotta be offline
[02:39] <crysis> and I created a dir at /media/winhdd
[02:39] <crysis> so did the command make sense?
[02:39] <fatcatmatt> usser: i tried wine, and there's something that doesn't work with it
[02:39] <_Mack> wow
[02:39] <crysis> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd - does it make sense?
[02:39] <elzo> Knoppix sucks :)
[02:39] <_Mack>  I am not alone hahahahaha, long live underscores!
[02:40] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Nothing in /media/winhdd ?, maybe try /mnt/winhdd since /media is maintained by a daemon of some kind, it might not like people in its playground
[02:40] <rocunreal> Linux is hard
[02:40] <crysis> ebilfish: actuallu something did change
[02:40] <progek> can anyone help me with my wireless adapter? Linksys PCI card (wireless G)
[02:40] <usser> fatcatmatt: oh well there's only one way try vmware server, install windows on it, but you have to have quite a lot of memory
[02:40] <crysis> they told me that I don't have the permission to view its contents
[02:40] <allorder> I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 and to run a game someone told me to do 32-Bit Chroot, what is the command to run it with chroot ?
[02:40] <fatcatmatt> rocunreal: it's easy to get used to
[02:40] <HotdogWater> rocunreal: it really isn't, you
[02:40] <HotdogWater> will get used to it
[02:40] <larson9999> hmmm, my wifi has been working for a couple hours.  maybe this other card isn't crap after all
[02:40] <elzo> i use, sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd
[02:41] <fatcatmatt> usser: i have virtualbox running with xp on it.  i dont like having to load it up everytime tho
[02:41] <vocx> progek, you need to give more info. Specially the chipset of the card. Read the wireless documentation.
[02:41] <crysis> elzo, i'll try that
[02:41] <vocx> !wifi > progek
[02:41] <rocunreal> what do i type to join the wine channel?
[02:41] <EbilPhish> crysis:  By default it will be root only,
[02:41] <crysis> elzo: do i need to unmount what I already have first?
[02:41] <elzo> crysis: yup
[02:41] <elzo> sudo umount /mnt/winhdd
[02:41] <crysis> ebilphish: i should be root now if its live, right?
[02:41] <usser> fatcatmatt: im afraid that's the only way, did you check winehq appdb for ms streets...?
[02:41] <allorder> I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 and to run a game someone told me to do 32-Bit Chroot, what is the command to run it with chroot, I did everything in the howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&page=22) ?
[02:42] <fatcatmatt> usser: yeah, wasn't listed
[02:42] <elzo> soprry /media/...
[02:42] <scguy318> usser: nothing there
[02:42] <crysis> ye
[02:42] <jcastros> hello
[02:42] <Think_Differentl> I got a problem. Soon as I start up and log in to a gnome session, the panel is nowhere to be found.
[02:42] <Think_Differentl> tried rebooting, and everything
[02:42] <elzo> check .xsession?
[02:42] <jcastros> do u know if ubuntu comes with mysql?
[02:42] <elzo> jcastros, i have to apt-get it myself
[02:42] <Think_Differentl> eh, but it seems to start, just that it doesnt appear
[02:42] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Nope, default user is 'ubuntu'
[02:42] <crysis> elzo: THANKS!!!
[02:42] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Just sudo
[02:42] <Think_Differentl> 'cause i have to kill it, then restart
[02:42] <crysis> ebilfish: thanks
[02:42] <dug> jcastros: no, you have to installl it from the repositories
[02:43] <crysis> i got it to work
[02:43] <EbilPhish> crysis:  nps 
[02:43] <jcastros> tks dug
[02:43] <elzo> jcastros: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:43] <elzo> jcastros: a lot of stuff there.
[02:43] <crysis> elzo: can u explain "-o nls=utf8,umask=000" to me?
[02:43] <ubuntu> Preciso de ajuda agora
[02:43] <thanda> Does anybody know, from where I can install w32codecs
[02:43] <elzo> crysis, i think that's just extra options, character set, and the user permission flags.
[02:44] <_cerberus_> does anyone know where to find an X channel?
[02:44] <crysis> ok...
[02:44] <blueblue123> i spaz
[02:44] <scguy318> crysis: sets all the file permissions to 777, and UTF-8 encoding for the file names?
[02:44] <vocx> !pt | ubuntu
[02:44] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:44] <blueblue123> i spaz
[02:44] <stdin> !w32codecs | thanda
[02:44] <elzo> thanda: check the link i posted aboce
[02:44] <ubotu> thanda: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:44] <swhale1> Hello
[02:44] <stdin> _cerberus_: X as in #Xorg ?
[02:44] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video
[02:45] <_cerberus_> stdin, hopefully, I'll find out.
[02:45] <blueblue123> hello everyone! bye everyone!
[02:45] <Gaidin> brb sorry
[02:45] <swhale1> I tried to install grutty tribe 5 and GRUB dosent show my win xp
[02:45] <scguy318> koudelka_: mebbe /dev/video0?
[02:45] <koudelka_> no video at all :/
[02:45] <stdin> !gutsy | swhale1
[02:45] <ubotu> swhale1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <koudelka_> scguy318: there's that even starts on v in /dev
[02:46] <EbilPhish> swhale1:  Try 'update-grub' in the terminal maybe
[02:46] <fatcatmatt> usser: http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=microsoftstreetsandtripju2.png
[02:46] <panosru> Damn, does anyone here knows about Eclipse and PDT?
[02:47] <allorder> I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 and to run a game someone told me to do 32-Bit Chroot, what is the command to run it with chroot, I did everything in the howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&page=22) ?
[02:47] <crysis> Any way to get Realtek '97 sound to work in live Feisty Fawn?
[02:47] <panosru> When i try to install PDT into Eclipse on Ubuntu i get the error: Zend Debugger Feature (5.2.10.v20070905) requires feature "org.eclipse.php_feature (1.0.0)", or later version.
[02:48] <vocx> !away > Wolphie-Busy
[02:48] <dug> panosru: might be a bug with older versions of eclipse/pdt: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=zend+debugger+requires+org.eclipse.php_feature&btnG=Google+Search
[02:48] <scguy318> koudelka_: i think you might need some drivers, think on their site
[02:48] <Rev> hey
[02:49] <Revv> wtf, they're all owned
[02:49] <Think_Differentl> I got a problem. Soon as I start up and log in to a gnome session, the panel is nowhere to be found. have to kill it and reboot.
[02:49] <koudelka_> the drivers are supposed to be in the krenel
[02:49] <koudelka_> and they are as i can see the modules
[02:49] <panosru> dug, i tried to figure that out but i have the 3.2 version, at least on windows i didn't had any trouble installing PDT :/ (not that makes windows better! lol)
[02:49] <Lord_Licorice> i'm using the live cd trying to reinstall ubuntu because it won't boot
[02:49] <cartesian1984> A friend on Ubuntu complains that he can't run firefox while listening to music or watching a movie without it muting what he wanted to listen to. How to resolve this?
[02:49] <Lord_Licorice> but i don't want to format the drive
[02:49] <isai> hi
[02:49] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  ALT+F2 type 'gnome-panel' and run that
[02:50] <Lord_Licorice> it says 'no root drive selected' when i try to do it
[02:50] <crysis> any way to get Realtek '97 sound to work on live Feisty Fawn?
[02:50] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, but it doesn't always startup right away.
[02:50] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  If that doesn't work try gnome-terminal and run gnome-panel in that
[02:50] <isai> my ubuntu dosent seem to be playing music
[02:50] <Lord_Licorice> and when i change it to '/' it says it needs to be formatted, but mount points like /media are fine
[02:50] <isai> pl help
[02:50] <Lord_Licorice> and my mount point is /media/hd5
[02:50] <Lord_Licorice> anyone know what the deal is?
[02:50] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, But I need it to start up automatically. Get annoying to kill it and restart.
[02:50] <dug> panosru: i don't know if it helps, but if you install java6, you can add this to the top of the /etc/jvm file to get eclipse to use java6: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[02:50] <vocx> !enter | Lord_Licorice
[02:50] <ubotu> Lord_Licorice: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:50] <isai> hey nybody here?
[02:50] <crysis> no
[02:51] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  Mine doesn't showup in compizfusion somtimes, but its actually there when you click on it it magically appears
[02:51] <dug> !alsa | isai
[02:51] <ubotu> isai: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, Hmm. I just installed fusion. Seems that the config app is br0ken, maybe that's it?
[02:51] <isai> wat is alsa?
[02:51] <panosru> dug, i have java 6 already installed :/
[02:51] <isai> im sorry but im very new
[02:52] <dug> isai: are you have a problem with no sound?  or a problem playing mp3s?
[02:52] <EbilPhish> EbilPhish:  Config wroks for me, might be worth deleting your compiz settings from .config/compiz and running ccsm
[02:52] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  /\
[02:52] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, K, I'll see what happens.
[02:52] <Lord_Licorice> i'm using the live cd trying to reinstall ubuntu because it won't boot. it says 'no root drive selected' when i try to do it, and when i change the mount point from /media/hd5 to /, it says the drive needs to be formatted, but mount opints like /media can be used, anyone know how to do it
[02:52] <Dr_willis> think moo!
[02:52] <isai> i guess playin mp3s
[02:52] <Lord_Licorice> (sorry)
[02:52] <isai> but installed all codecs
[02:52] <isai> for sure
[02:53] <Dr_willis>  /dev/hd5 is totaly wrong..
[02:53] <dug> isai: what application are you using to try to play the mp3s?  there are options like rhythmbox, xmms, muine, ...
[02:53] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  Also I think compiz fusion needs to be a bit delayed at start if you know basic shell scripting you can use sleep to wait a little bit
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  What are you changint exactly?  the menu.lst ?
[02:53] <isai> i tried all of 'em but none seems to be working
[02:53] <swhale1> Win XP is not listed on groub
[02:54] <swhale1> grub
[02:54] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, Nope, same problem.
[02:54] <wolferine> anyone familar with Swat, I just added the packages, but I cannot get it in a browser, tried restarting, still nothing
[02:54] <Lord_Licorice> dr, i'm not sure what the menu.lst is
[02:54] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, But I dont start it when I login. I use Beryl-manager to start up the special wm's.
[02:54] <Lord_Licorice> it's the manual partition configure option on the install disc
[02:54] <isai> hey, its changed to alsa by default
[02:54] <Psyber> hi guys
[02:54] <dug> isai: are you getting any specific error?
[02:54] <isai> nope
[02:54] <Dr_willis> swhale1,  if its on hda1, theres a example entry in the grub config files for it. you can just uncomment the example
[02:54] <isai> its playin but no outpu muzic
[02:54] <tapas> i heard that beryl was merged againwith compiz. do i have to install seperate packages to get this new code?
[02:55] <fatcatmatt> usser: gonna go grab some grub, be back later
[02:55] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, won't boot as in what? Do you get the grub menu and then it hangs?
[02:55] <EbilPhish> tapas:  Yes, you need the compiz fusion repos
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  lets back up.. You got an allready installed system?
[02:55] <koudelka_> anyone here with a twinhan dvb tv card?
[02:55] <dug> isai: are your speakers turned on?  is the volume up in the top panel?
[02:55] <EbilPhish> !fusion
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <milk> tapas, yes
[02:55] <EbilPhish> !compiz
[02:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:55] <Psyber> any know a way to reorginize the Gnome toolbar such that "places" and "System" are located within "Applications"
[02:55] <milk> i
[02:55] <isai> ya, checked all of that
[02:55] <wolferine> anyone familar with Swat, I just added the packages, but I cannot get it in a browser, tried restarting, still nothing
[02:55] <tapas> ok thanks guys
[02:55] <elzo> so it seems that ntfs-3g or just the feisty ntfs driver, does not allow full file ownership and access right support.. anybody know of an ntfs driver that can override ntfs acls?
[02:55] <isai> its perfect
[02:55] <Lord_Licorice> vocx, it says it needs to check the disk, and then it gets to 60% and then tells me i have a kernel error
[02:55] <Lord_Licorice> and that apt-get needs to be installed
[02:55] <Lord_Licorice> and to install it with apt get
[02:55] <isai> i can hear beep sounds
[02:56] <dug> isai: sorry, i would try exploring those links ubotu posted about sound and alsa
[02:56] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, http://pastebin.ca/699066 is what i get when I try to run ccsm
[02:56] <Dr_willis> wolferine,   i think you need to manuallty start swat up. I havent used it in ages.
[02:56] <isai> gimme a sec
[02:56] <Dr_willis> !swat
[02:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:56] <Lord_Licorice> it also tells me to run the disk check command manually, and when i do it just crashes.
[02:56] <isai> will get bak 2 u
[02:56] <dug> isai: yeah that's the pc speaker (a little speaker on the motherboard)
[02:56] <milk> sudo apt-get install apt-get :-)
[02:56] <EbilPhish> elzo:  I don't think there is a driver under linux that can understand windows acls
[02:56] <Lord_Licorice> milk that doesn't work
[02:56] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  thers other tools that replace swat now a days.. swat has some... issues. :)
[02:56] <milk> i know
[02:56] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, seems like a broken install. How did you install in the first place?
[02:56] <Lord_Licorice> haha
[02:56] <wolferine> Dr_willis, as I said, I have restarted
[02:56] <milk> it was just a joak
[02:56] <elzo> ebilphish: damn
[02:56] <milk> joke
[02:56] <Lord_Licorice> vocx, live cd, it worked for a month or so
[02:56] <MenZa> Now, I've created a session for Openbox in .xinitrc with a few extra things (rox for desktop, etc.), but I dunno how to run it other than login from cli, then startx. Can anyone enlighten me on how to log into it from GDM?
[02:56] <Lord_Licorice> then i logged out, went into windows, and when i logged back onto ubuntu it wouldn't load
[02:56] <isai> hey, 1 more thing
[02:56] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  im not sure that swat even  adds itself to the boot process. you may need to 'sudo swat'
[02:57] <elzo> ebilphish: i need additional tricks :)
[02:57] <isai> should the volume control line-in and microphone be on mute?
[02:57] <wolferine> Dr_willis, its running, checked the port, but nothing comes up :)
[02:57] <Lord_Licorice> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without formatting the drive?
[02:57] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, Windows Vista? Damn, that seems scary.
[02:57] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  Looks like you need to install the compiz gconf plugin, also check that your running the uptodate version
[02:57] <Lord_Licorice> vocx, no, xp.
[02:57] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  what url are you using? http://localhost or the ip?
[02:57] <dug> isai: that can stay muted if you want, that's for recording sound, not outputting
[02:57] <milk> lord licorice how have you partionized?
[02:58] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, I'll see.
[02:58] <isai> kewl
[02:58] <elzo> ebilphish: basically my friend's winxp became corrupted after some auto updates.  i was trying to use ubuntu livecd or knoppix live cd, so that i can mount her hd, and scp everything out to my linux box.  can you think of another trick?
[02:58] <wolferine> localhost:901
[02:58] <Lord_Licorice> milk, basically half ubuntu, half xp, and a swap partition
[02:58] <wolferine> portscan shows its fine
[02:58] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, it is advised to create a separate partition for your data like /home so you could recover from these crashes without loosing your data.
[02:58] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, found a package under compiz that seems to be it, installing.
[02:58] <Dr_willis> wolferine,  check the swat logs/samba logs i guess. i find other tools better for my needs then swat.
[02:59] <EbilPhish> elzo:  You shouldn't need acls if your just backing up the files unless you also want to backup the acls info itself
[02:59] <Ashfire908> how to you exit vim
[02:59] <elzo> ebilphish: it's a company notebook.. so i don't have the administrator password to get into recovery console
[02:59] <Lord_Licorice> vocx, yeah, i read that after i installed
[02:59] <isai> hey im doin that
[02:59] <Lord_Licorice> but is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without formatting?
[02:59] <Ashfire908> *do
[02:59] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video, any suggestions on what to trouble shot?
[02:59] <isai> im installin alsa
[02:59] <EbilPhish> elzo:  If your getting permission problems make sure your root
[02:59] <milk> lord_licorice / has to be formated sry
[02:59] <isai> im a total newb
[02:59] <milk> i think
[02:59] <isai> so this may sound a littl lame
[02:59] <Lord_Licorice> milk i was told it doesn't
[02:59] <Lord_Licorice> and that you could do it with the live cd
[03:00] <Lord_Licorice> here, i'll tell you exactly what happens
[03:00] <milk> i dont know exactly
[03:00] <elzo> ebilphish: then why is it telling me "Permission Denied" when I do something like "sudo cp /path/to/her/files ~/" ... i'm only running this off of the ubuntu live cd
[03:00] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, however using the Live CD you could mount your current hard drive, transfer the data to another disk and then reformat. I don't know for sure if there is a non destructive way.
[03:00] <elzo> ebilphish: but when i do the same stuff like "sudo cp /path/to/desktop.ini ~/" it works fine.
[03:00] <isai> how does one get gcc to work on ubuntu?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> elzo,  using ~ in that sort of thing is not a good idea. use the full paths.. for a start.
[03:00] <Ashfire908> Lord_Licorice: why do you not want to format?
[03:00] <dug> isai: install the "build-essential" package
[03:00] <isai> done
[03:00] <Ashfire908> how do you exit vi
[03:00] <elzo> roger that dr.
[03:00] <dug> isai: you aren't trying to compile alsa are you?
[03:01] <Wolphie-Busy> Ashfire: type ":q"
[03:01] <Lord_Licorice> No root file system is defined, when i select the /media/hd5 partition from the list, and it says he file system on /dev/hdc5 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[03:01] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Can you open the files, 'cat /path/to/files/randomfile.doc'
[03:01] <Wolphie-Busy> or Ctrl + Z
[03:01] <Dr_willis> elzo,  it pays to be very 'concise' Heh heh. :)   i dont see why it aint working however.
[03:01] <Lord_Licorice> when i change it to
[03:01] <Lord_Licorice> "/", sorry
[03:01] <isai> dug: hmmm....i dont kno, but im just doin wat dat website says...
[03:01] <MenZa> Now, I've created a session for Openbox in .xinitrc with a few extra things (rox for desktop, etc.), but I dunno how to run it other than login from cli, then startx. Can anyone enlighten me on how to log into it from GDM?
[03:01] <Lord_Licorice> Ash, id on't want to format because there's some things on there i don't want to lose
[03:01] <Lord_Licorice> and i can't access my /home folder with windows ext3 viewers
[03:01] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, http://pastebin.ca/699070 seems like that installing that one package didnt help much.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  i think you are missunderstanding how to 'repair' an install from the live cd.. You dont 'reinstall to fix'
[03:02] <Ashfire908> hey how do i exit vi
[03:02] <koudelka_> isai: what website?
[03:02] <elzo> "cat: Tables.xls: Permission denied", but in the same folder, there is a "desktop.ini" and that worked fine with cat.
[03:02] <Wolphie-Busy> Ashfire: Type ":q"
[03:02] <dug> isai: double click the volume control in the top panel, then go to file->change device, see if an alsa device is already listed
[03:02] <kidbuntu> who here has an object dock feisty. can someone help me to install one.
[03:02] <tapas> can i tell apt to put the downloaded packages somewhere else than the standard path [running low on space on /] 
[03:02] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis: oh, i guess so. well how do you repair?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  normally you would use the livecd to edit the files on your existing install.
[03:02] <isai> its already listed...yah
[03:02] <astro76> Ashfire908, ESCape first if you are in insert mode
[03:02] <Ashfire908> Lord_Licorice: what is wrong with your system
[03:02] <Lord_Licorice> something to do with the kernel
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  so we are back to.. what Ashfire908  just asked. :)
[03:02] <milk> lord licorice you should save your data with a live cd then format if theres no other way to rescure the system
[03:02] <Dr_willis> and we need more deatils then that.
[03:03] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Check what the actual permissions show as on the file in ls
[03:03] <milk> rescue*
[03:03] <dug> isai: make sure those sliders are all up (or not at the bottom), unplug any headphones, etc.  There's also a tool called "alsamixergui" that can be used
[03:03] <elzo> ebilphish: -r-x-r-x-r-x 1 root root 58368 ... Tables.xls   (and its the same for the desktop.ini)
[03:04] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis, okay, i'll go reboot and see wha tit says
[03:04] <elzo> ebilphish: desktop.ini works, but not Tables.xls
[03:04] <Lord_Licorice> be back in 10 minutes or so
[03:04] <dts> how do you know what version of ubuntu you're running (i have a server edition installed)
[03:04] <vocx> Lord_Licorice, take pictures if you can.
[03:04] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, any ideas?
[03:04] <dts> so no gui
[03:04] <swhale1> I need grub help
[03:04] <dug> isai: another possibility might be your speakers are not plugged in the right jack (like the microphone jack instead of speaker jack)
[03:04] <Lord_Licorice> no camera vocx
[03:04] <Lord_Licorice> i'll just write it down
[03:04] <isai> yeh, check.....no headphones,sliders are all up
[03:04] <isai> nope
[03:04] <isai> theyre perfectly connected to the rite jack
[03:05] <koudelka_> isai: you are using analog?
[03:05] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  Nope, just make sure your using the very latest build
[03:05] <dug> isai: ok, just checking :)  I don't know then.  I use xmms to play my mp3s, but that's just my preference (it is like winamp on windows)
[03:05] <Ashfire908> what command do you use to link a directory
[03:05] <isai> actuallywats analog?
[03:06] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, very latest build of compiz. checked out at around 1pm.
[03:06] <vocx> swhale1, are you currently using Ubuntu? Then please type "sudo fdisk -l" but do not paste the output of that command here.
[03:06] <koudelka_> just regular jack
[03:06] <koudelka_> no spdif or optical
[03:06] <Psyber> does anyone know how to modify the gnome menubar?
[03:06] <EbilPhish> elzo:  That very odd, if you mounted with -t ntfs then it should be using the very basic ntfs, might be worth trying ntfs-3g again with the force option
[03:06] <koudelka_> isai: you don't have any sound at all?
[03:06] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Also if you have a windows cd you might beable to use that to get to the recovery console
[03:07] <isai> nope...those beep sound r perfect
[03:07] <nathan> if I install a ltsp server should I have a separate opt partition
[03:07] <elzo> EbilPhish: Okay, I'll try and apt-get ntfs-3g while using the LiveCD.  I can't get into the recovery console either way because I don't have the notebook's administrator password for the C:/
[03:07] <vocx> Ashfire908, "ln", read the manual page for more details "man ln"
[03:07] <koudelka_> beep sounds?
[03:07] <panosru> does anyone knows how to import rules from Microsoft Outlook 2007 to Evolution?
[03:07] <Ashfire908> vocx: regarding Lord_Licorice, any kernel errors should be put in /var/log/kern.log
[03:07] <Ashfire908> vocx: thanks
[03:07] <Psyber> does anyone know how to modify the gnome toolbar?
[03:08] <isai> hmmm.....yah like wen i press esc in vi or in de terminal
[03:08] <elzo> EbilPhish: so ntfs-3g is not by default on feisty?  Feisty's ntfs driver is basic huh?
[03:08] <EbilPhish> elzo:  Its possible the files are somehow encrypted, that might be a pain
[03:08] <koudelka_> Psyber: right click it?
[03:08] <dug> Psyber: right click and "add to panel" or right click existing item and delete
[03:08] <allorder> Hi everyone, I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 someone told me that to be able to launch a game I should do 32-Bit Chroot How-To, I did everything in the howto, before I had this error: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, now with chroot I got no more error and the game don't launch, any idea ?
[03:08] <vocx> Ashfire908, I don't think it was a kernel error. But I've read stories like his when apt suddenly breaks. I'd just reinstall.
[03:09] <EbilPhish> elzo:  The ntfs-config package uses ntfs-3g with fuse but its a pain when the drives arn't clean, ntfs is built into the kernel but is read only
[03:09] <elzo> EbilPhish: yup if it's encrypted then I'll forget it.  :)  But she just wants a copy somewhere first before her company help desk fixes.. she doesn't trust them or something ;)
[03:09] <isai> also, i cant get .exe files to run, wat do i do??i use wine....does ny1 else use wine?
[03:09] <EbilPhish> elzo:  If you only need 1 or 2 files then you might beable to use a foresic recovery program like autopsy
[03:09] <Ashfire908> what is the difference between a symbolic link and a hard link?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: so no point getting ntfs-3g right?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: if the live cd already have it
[03:10] <koudelka_> isai: what are you writing when you are starting .exe files with wine?
[03:10] <elzo> EbilPhish: i tried -t ntfs-3g and it says, type unknown
[03:10] <EbilPhish> elzo:  If you got ntfs-config then you probally have ntfs3g already
[03:10] <dug> Ashfire908: a hard link sort of makes 2 copies of the file.  a regular symlink is jsut a shortcut
[03:11] <EbilPhish> elzo:  hmm maybe it is seperate, try apt-get ntfs-3g then
[03:11] <Ashfire908> dug: huh?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> a hard link is identical to the original file. :) same file.. just has 2 names.
[03:11] <elzo> ebilphish: yup tried that, i think i need to add the repository to sources.list
[03:11] <Dr_willis> i recall taht from my Linux Kernel/Filesystems book.
[03:11] <EbilPhish> elzo:  ah yeh, and apt-get update
[03:11] <isai> i write --> $(etc@etcdesktop)wine e:\\turboc\\tc.exe
[03:11] <dug> Ashfire908: in terminal (under applications->accessories) type "man ln" to see some explanations
[03:11] <felipe_> hi
[03:11] <vocx> Ashfire908, yes, sounds strange. More info on hard links in wikipedia entry.
[03:11] <Ashfire908> dug: guess where i am
[03:12] <Psyber> does anyone in here know how to modify the gnome toolbar?
[03:12] <felipe_> someone know how can i run the kernel modules required for usb mass storage devices?
[03:12] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  Depends what you want to do with it
[03:12] <dug> Ashfire908: in a hard link, if the original file is gone, the hard link fails, with a symlink, the shortcut can still exist even though target file no longer does
[03:12] <koudelka_> isai: and nothing happens? or what does it say?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> felipe_,  you mean load them? they should be autoloading as needed. if not sudo modprobe Modulename
[03:13] <isai> Warning: unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls.
[03:13] <isai>          NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught.
[03:13] <isai> err:module:MZ_DoLoadImage insufficient DOS memory
[03:13] <isai> winevdm: can't exec 'E:\turboc\TC.exe': error=8
[03:13] <Psyber> EbilPhish: I want to modify the tool bar so "Places" and "System" are inside "Application"
[03:13] <isai> thats wat it says......
[03:13] <EbilPhish> Think_Differentl:  It might be worth trying to install everything in the repos that looks like its part of compiz
[03:13] <Psyber> EbilPhish:  do you think that is possible?
[03:13] <felipe_> hi Dr_willis
[03:13] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, I think that some of the packages need to be updated.
[03:13] <koudelka_> isai: have you been in "winecfg"?
[03:14] <felipe_> Dr_willis: but can you wirte an example? :D
[03:14] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, if that doesn't work, i'm just going to remove it.
[03:14] <printk> dug: that's not true
[03:14] <tarelerulz> The vnc server on my network never do have a name and I am wanting to know  what I can do about that .
[03:14] <Dr_willis> felipe_,  sudo modprobe spiffymodule
[03:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:14] <isai> wats dat?
[03:14] <felipe_> ok
[03:14] <Ashfire908> dug if i sym linked a dir when i enter it would the directory show a change of where i am? (like if i sym linked folder1 and the link was folder2, would it show i'm in folder2 or folder1
[03:14] <felipe_> Dr_willis: i'll try
[03:14] <printk> dug: a hard link creates an exact copy, it's own inode and everything.  you delete the original file, the hard lin will still exist.  the file will still exist that is.  symlink is the one that disappears if you delete the o
[03:14] <printk> riginal file.
[03:14] <wastrel> Psyber:  remove the menu-bar applet and replace it with the "main menu" applet
[03:14] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  The Places and System are locked to the application menu as one giant widget. You can get replacement ones though
[03:15] <Dr_willis> hard link is not a 'copy' however.. it IS the original file.. with just 2 names..
[03:15] <koudelka_> isai: it's the wine config type winecfg in the terminal and check your settings. you probably want windows xp as your windows version if it isn't set as that
[03:15] <printk> Dr_willis: er that's it
[03:15] <Psyber> wastrel: how do I do that?
[03:15] <samri> g'evenin all
[03:15] <wastrel> Psyber:  right click on the panel and choose "add to panel"  in the search bar type "menu"
[03:15] <Dr_willis> I cant think of a case when you need hard links, over soft links.
[03:15] <isai> 1 sec..
[03:15] <Dr_willis> there may be some.. i just cant think of any. :)
[03:15] <wastrel> click on main menu and then the add button
[03:16] <Think_Differentl> EbilPhish, FIXED! Turns out that half of the packages were out of date. Should've seen that earilier. Now lets hope gnome-panel runs ok. :)
[03:16] <wastrel> then you can right-click on the old menu and choose remove from panel
[03:16] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, what do you want vnc to do?
[03:16] <felipe_> Dr_willis: it says:"FATAL: Module scsi not found." i did it in my personal folder in Konsole, is there a condition to use it?
[03:16] <wastrel> or vice versa i guess
[03:16] <dug> Ashfire908: i just tried it and ln doesn't let you hard link a directory, you can only sym link.  I changed to the symlinked directory, and it had the symlinked name, not the original name in the path
[03:16] <isai> hey, i have vista, but dont c the option....do i clik on xp?
[03:17] <tarelerulz> ckin2001, I just want it so I can control my other computer .
[03:18] <koudelka_> isai: you just select the windows version you want on that list in the "Applications" tab
[03:18] <vocx> isai, just remember that some windows programs, some .exes, won't work with wine no matter what, most probably because you lack libraries dll and stuff.
[03:18] <samri> can anyone recommend an app that would organize music?
[03:18] <Psyber> wastrel: cool... thanks
[03:18] <printk> Dr_willis: only example i can think of is if the original filename is predicted to be changed.  In which case a hard link would not break, where as a soft would (?)
[03:18] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you can do it by ip or by hostname, if the first pc knows the hostname of the second
[03:18] <isai> well, then forget it
[03:18] <Ashfire908> dug: okay thanks. would you happen to know where i could learn about making shell scripts?
[03:18] <dug> samri: banshee, rhythmbox, muine...
[03:18] <HotdogWater> i have a question about usb HDDs. when I plug it in, i can't access it unless i re-start Xorg
[03:19] <ShackJack> Hi - I'm probably missing something simple, but I have a second hard drive formatted and mounted to it, but my regular user account has no permissions to write anything to it. Something else I need to add to fstab?
[03:19] <HotdogWater> any way around that?
[03:19] <tarelerulz> chin2001, how  do I get the second computer to know the host name ?
[03:19] <Ashfire908> HotdogWater: huh. you try mounting it?
[03:19] <isai> im still not able to play my muzic
[03:19] <dug> Ashfire908: I don't know of a specific tutorial.  I think ubuntu uses bash, so here are some bash tutorials: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=bash+tutorial&btnG=Search
[03:19] <HotdogWater> yeah
[03:19] <HotdogWater> i've tried mounting it
[03:19] <wastrel> bash yes
[03:19] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you should add the hostname / ip address to /etc/hosts
[03:19] <tarelerulz> From installing vnc it seem like the name it gives you should just work.  It never does and I am lost as to way
[03:19] <HotdogWater> it bitches about it not existing in fstab, which it doesn't
[03:19] <samri> Thanks dug
[03:20] <vocx> ShackJack, add the uid=1000 or gid=1000 options. Do you want to paste your fstab?
[03:20] <wastrel> HotdogWater:  add it to fstab 100%
[03:20] <vocx> !language | HotdogWater
[03:20] <ubotu> HotdogWater: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:20] <wastrel> nvm
[03:20] <HotdogWater> sorry
[03:20] <ShackJack> vocx: I'll paste the one line :) - UUID=e7e3c83c-55c3-4535-844f-3c38f64f84d7 /media/Secondary ext3 defaults 0 0
[03:20] <tarelerulz> ckin2001 , what if the ip changes you put into the /etc/hosts ?
[03:21] <HotdogWater> my B my B
[03:21] <ShackJack> vocx: I didn't see those options with my /home dir so was following that as an example...
[03:21] <tinman47> Hey somebody! Need help with a BASH script.
[03:21] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, you can either setup static ip on the box before putting it in /etc/hosts or you can setup dns to be updated with that hostname
[03:21] <felipe_> tinman47: i think that i can help you
[03:21] <ckin2001> Taranis, static ip is a little easier
[03:21] <ckin2001> eek
[03:21] <felipe_> tinman47: just ask :)
[03:21] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, static ip is a little easier
[03:21] <tinman47> oh thanx
[03:21] <samri> do any of the available music organizers delete low-rated music? I have GB's of crap music. (thx again dug)
[03:22] <tinman47> Sorry, a little new at this
[03:22] <wastrel> samri:  if you find one let me know
[03:22] <samri> doh
[03:22] <Psyber> wastrel: crap... is there a way to place the new menu widget within the panel?
[03:22] <tarelerulz> ckin2001 , do you know of a link to tell you how to set up dns to be upaded with that hostname ?
[03:22] <crysi1> hey guys, I mounted a partition with "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=000 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd", but now I wanna make it writable too. can anyone help me?
[03:23] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis?
[03:23] <felipe_> tinman47: me too :D
[03:23] <felipe_> xD
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice, ??
[03:23] <wastrel> Psyber:  you can middle-click on it to drag it around or right click, select move and then drag it around
[03:23] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, i do not, maybe lookup something on named
[03:23] <vocx> ShackJack, try "defaults,uid=1000"  and maybe the last two columns "0 2"
[03:23] <tinman47> Yeah, uh I kinda got a hard to manage script.
[03:23] <Lord_Licorice> k, i went and tried to write it  all down
[03:23] <wastrel> or you can add another one where you want it and remove the one that's in the wrong place
[03:23] <tinman47> felipe_
[03:23] <felipe_> ?
[03:23] <tinman47> LOL How do I talk to a seperate person?
[03:24] <Lord_Licorice> before i finished it went into one of those endless error things where it just has a number on the left that keeps getting higher, said, port_status failed, error -32, something to that nature, and port 8 resume error -110
[03:24] <printk> tinman47: by agreeing on a common langague and then one talks while the other listens? :)
[03:24] <felipe_> just type the first letters and press <tab> button
[03:24] <tinman47> o.o
[03:24] <ShackJack> vocx: I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,..." etc...
[03:24] <tinman47> Okay,Does it work?
[03:24] <tinman47> no!
[03:24] <crysis> !umask
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <tinman47> -_-'
[03:25] <Lord_Licorice> before it started that, it said, 'found file system with errors, auto fsck failed, run fsck in maintenece shell, read only, then it says it's loading that, and that the drive's in read only, then it gives me some bash errors, 'no job control, command 'groups' cannot be found
[03:25] <felipe_> if you type "f" with tab you'll navigate between all the people with their name startin with F
[03:25] <tarelerulz>  ckin2001 , thanks for the point in the right direction .   I have been wanting to do this since I found out about vnc  plus it would help when I have a vnc server on my windows computer .
[03:25] <Lord_Licorice> and then it went off by itself into that error cycle, i don't know what it's called
[03:25] <felipe_> is you do: "fe" all the people with "fe"
[03:25] <Psyber> wastrel:  You rock  Thanks a bunch man
[03:25] <ckin2001> tarelerulz, no problem, good luck with it - i got lazy and just set static ips here :p
[03:25] <usser> ckin2001: hehe same here
[03:25] <tinman47> This is freakin anoyin...
[03:26] <felipe_> tinman47: is theres only a person to navigate, the name will be typed automatically
[03:26] <vocx> crysis, you can read NTFS without problems, but to write you need "ntfs-3g"
[03:26] <theATOM> how can i chane permissions on a file belonging to one of my users?
[03:26] <usser> theATOM: by using chmod with root priviligies
[03:26] <dug> theATOM: put "sudo" before the command you use, like "sudo chmod 755 thefile"
[03:26] <theATOM> usser:  how?
[03:26] <usser> theATOM: sudo chmod
[03:26] <theATOM> ok
[03:26] <tinman47> well felipe_ ... I got this big script. Like 8KB and its not working...
[03:27] <tinman47> Can I like send it?
[03:27] <Lord_Licorice> does that help, dr_willis?
[03:27] <dug> heh
[03:27] <theATOM> sudo chmod 755 thefile didnt work
[03:27] <Psyber> hum a few more nights like this and I might be able to fully switch to linux
[03:27] <dug> change thefile with the actual file name and path
[03:27] <who1> hey, i cant get my muzic to work
[03:27] <who1> im new so cud som1 pl help me
[03:28] <theATOM> sudo chmod 755 filename  <--  doestnt work.  still belongs to my user
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  sounds like you need to boot the live cd, and use 'sudo fsck /dev/hd#### where ### is the right letter and # for your linux isntalled system.
[03:28] <theATOM> any1 kniw proper command?
[03:28] <ambrose_> why cant ur music work
[03:28] <jrib> theATOM: chown  to change ownership
[03:28] <tinman47> Is anyone good at shell scripts?
[03:28] <crysis> what should I set 'umask' to if I want write support in a partition?
[03:28] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video, any suggestions on what to trouble shot?
[03:28] <vuSti-Monogami> Driver		"nv" is what i have in my xorg.conf right now. If i try changing to nvidia driver by enabling the restricted drivers i get an error. I have previously manually installed the nvidia drivers given on nvidia.com but wanted to use those that came with ubuntu instead.
[03:28] <ambrose_> is the sound ok
[03:28] <who1> CAN ANY1 PL HELP ME???
[03:28] <Psyber> who1 what do u need?
[03:28] <theATOM> jrib: sudo chown?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  some how it seems your filesystem got currupted.
[03:29] <who1> I CANT PLAY NY MUZIC.........................
[03:29] <ckin2001> crysis, i think its 0022
[03:29] <jrib> theATOM: sure
[03:29] <vuSti-Monogami> They seem to have corrupted my nvidia Driver
[03:29] <printk> !ask who1
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask who1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <crysis> thanks
[03:29] <vocx> theATOM, your original question was not stated clearly hence the confusion.
[03:29] <vuSti-Monogami> Can i reinstall it somehow ?
[03:29] <printk> !ask > who1
[03:29] <dug> theATOM: "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename"
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> Dr, it happened after i tried using a windows ext3 reader
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: what the coommand?  sudo chown filename?
[03:29] <tinman47> where did felipe_ go?
[03:29] <jrib> theATOM: read 'man chown'
[03:29] <crysis> who1, did u launch the music files and it didn't play them?
[03:29] <who1> MY MP3 ALL OF A SUDDEN DONT SEEM 2 BE WORKING
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  BEEN there.. seen that happen.. windows crashed and dident properly close out/unmount the linux filesystem.
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: no
[03:29] <SlimeyPete> who1: please don't shout
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> so is there anything i can do
[03:29] <theATOM> jrib: is that your reply to pppl?  go read man
[03:29] <Lord_Licorice> short of reformatting
[03:30] <jrib> theATOM: suit yourself.  I don't mind helping people, but they have to at least try to read the documentation
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  i find it safer to use that tool in windows.. give the linux drive a letter. do the work.. then remove the letter.
[03:30] <tarelerulz> What are you playing you mp3 with who1 ?
[03:30] <tinman47> clear
[03:30] <who1> IT SAYS ITS PLAYING BUT NO OUTPUT MUZIC
[03:30] <crysis> who1, ohh
[03:30] <printk> who1: 1) no caps  2) calm down, or everyone will just ignore you  b)  Be specific, what apps are you using.  what sound card do you have?  Is the kernel recongizing your sound card?
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> Dr, that's what i did
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> it never worked though
[03:30] <Dr_willis> Lord_Licorice,  boot live cd. use  sudo fsck /dev/hd## like i suggested
[03:30] <dug> theATOM: take it easy, see my earlier post
[03:30] <dug> theATOM: "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename"
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> you suggested that?
[03:30] <crysis> who1, play around with the sound settings (double click the speaker icon)
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> haha, i never saw
[03:30] <Lord_Licorice> okay lets see
[03:30] <who1> i have no clue, and sorry bt the rage....:(
[03:30] <vocx> !who > Lord_Licorice
[03:30] <who1> i did
[03:30] <theATOM> sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilename   <--- doesnt work.  still belongs to m,y user
[03:30] <printk> who1: have no clue about what?  your hardware?
[03:31] <who1> yup
[03:31] <Dr_willis> we need a 'esp' module. :)
[03:31] <who1> im totally new to linux
[03:31] <crysis> go to file --> change device, maybe that will help
[03:31] <printk> who1: well that's important.  if you want to trouble shoot your issues, you need to know what you have.
[03:31] <phoenix24> I added a task to crontab.. but that doesn't seem to schedule :(
[03:31] <jrib> theATOM: did you change "yourusername" to your username?
[03:31] <theATOM> dug:  doesnt work
[03:31] <theATOM> jrib:  OF COURSE
[03:31] <dug> theATOM: tell me again what you want to do?
[03:31] <theATOM> dodint change it
[03:31] <who1> hmm, how do i kno, wat audio device i use
[03:31] <jrib> theATOM: and what does 'ls -ld filename' return now?
[03:31] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis: , how do i know what to put in place of ##
[03:31] <theATOM> dug:  i want to own the file
[03:31] <EbilPhish> 
[03:31] <ambrose_> dude ur sound doesnt work?
[03:31] <Lord_Licorice> it said it was hd5 on the partition menu but
[03:32] <ambrose_> or is it ur music
[03:32] <who1> i use an ext hardware for ubntu
[03:32] <printk> who1: i suggest install 'alsa-tools' by issuing 'sudo apt-get install alsa-tools' then running alsaconf to make sure your proper soundcard module is loaded.
[03:32] <phoenix24> how can I add a task to cron ?
[03:32] <printk> who1: is it a usb sound card?
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hd5
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[03:32] <jrib> !cron > phoenix24 (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:32] <jrib> !paste | Lord_Licorice
[03:32] <ubotu> Lord_Licorice: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:32] <Kazero> Heres an offtopic question: Anyone know of a free burning program for windows? I have the ISO and my copy of nero doesnt detect my burner. I want ubuntu!
[03:32] <Lord_Licorice> oh sorry jrib
[03:32] <who1> hmmm, nope
[03:32] <jrib> !burn > Kazero (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:33] <CNW8835> I'm having a problem using an HP Officejet 4315 in Ubuntu
[03:33] <Psyber> wastrel:  got another question for ya, is there a way to modify the size of the icons w/in the menu widget?
[03:33] <Kazero> jrib: Problem is, those are for ubuntu >.<
[03:33] <who1> printk: how do i chek it?
[03:33] <wastrel> Psyber:  i don't think so
[03:33] <dixon2> usser: i have a perl script the does ogg2mp3 I could send it if you want to try modifying it
[03:33] <printk> who1: try running alsaconf to pick your sound card.  also, did you install any codes to play mp3 files?  Ubuntu can't play mp3 by default
[03:33] <jrib> Kazero: no, read the page
[03:33] <theATOM> it worked, but i had to reboot
[03:33] <printk> who1: can you play any sound at all?  Just not mp3?
[03:33] <tinman47> one help me...
[03:33] <usser> dixon2: nice please do
[03:33] <theATOM> unless i rebooted. the ownership didnt change
[03:33] <who1> printk: ohhhhhhhhhh
[03:33] <tinman47> help
[03:33] <Psyber> wastrel:  bummer... thanx anyay
[03:33] <Lord_Licorice> Dr_willis: how do i make sure i have the right hd #
[03:34] <avt3kk> guys is there a dj mixing software thats free for ubuntu?
[03:34] <tinman47> HELP
[03:34] <ShackJack> When I type mount I get /dev/sdb1 on /media/Secondary type ext3 (rw)   < Shouldn't a regular user be able to write to /media/Secondary?
[03:34] <vocx> !helpme | tinman47
[03:34] <ubotu> tinman47: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:34] <dug> printk: I installed alsa-tools, but there is no alsaconf command (i do have alsaguimixer tho)
[03:34] <usser> dixon2: whomgm AT gmail DOT com
[03:34] <avt3kk> linux dj
[03:34] <dug> alsamixergui i mean
[03:34] <koudelka_> Hello, i have some trouble getting my twinhan dvb tv card to work, i can see it with lspci and all the modules should be loaded correctly. but i don't get /dev/dvb or /dev/video, any suggestions on what to trouble shot?
[03:34] <avt3kk> any ideas guys
[03:34] <printk> !restrictedformats > who1
[03:34] <Xero> Some guy keeps using my nick and I'm tired of ghosting him.
[03:34] <tinman47> Okay, uh can someone help me with an 8 KB BASH Script?
[03:34] <who1> printk: of course, i can hear beep sounds......
[03:35] <avt3kk> !dj
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dj - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <avt3kk> lol
[03:35] <dug> avt3kk: let me check, i know there has to be some
[03:35] <ckin2001> Xero, register with nickserv
[03:35] <jrib> tinman47: it's best to just pastebin your script, and state what the issue is.  Also, you may want to try #bash
[03:35] <avt3kk> ty Dug :)
[03:35] <printk> who1: follow the link ubotu sent you regarding restricted formats, it tells you how to install the proper codecs for mp3 and others
[03:35] <tinman47> K...
[03:35] <Xero> ckin2001, I said I'm tired of ghosting him, which is a Nickserv command.
[03:35] <Xero> This name is Nickserv registered.
[03:35] <ckin2001> Xero, oops sorry
[03:35] <who1> hmmm, i dint get any?????
[03:35] <printk> !restrictedformats
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:35] <printk> who1: ^^
[03:35] <tinman47> Is #bash like another IRC channel?
[03:36] <printk> tinman47: like yes
[03:36] <Xero> yes.
[03:36] <wastrel> Xero:  turn on the nick protection thing
[03:36] <tinman47> like thanx -_-'
[03:36] <jj3666> are new versions of ubuntu still based on debian or is it a complete fork now?
[03:36] <who1> thanx
[03:36] <Lord_Licorice> you there willis?
[03:36] <printk> jj3666: debian always and forever
[03:36] <who1> ill try it out.....
[03:36] <crysis> hey guys, I ran "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0022 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd" but write support still doesn't work
[03:36] <dug> avt3kk: so far i just see djplay: http://djplay.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <jrib> jj3666: based on debian
[03:36] <avt3kk> thankyou Dug :D
[03:37] <jj3666> thx all
[03:37] <wastrel> ntfs write needs extra work
[03:37] <CNW8835> Hi.  I'm having a problem using an HP Officejet 4315 in Ubuntu.  Basically when I print something, the margins are messed up.  The text runs all the way to and beyond the margin, disappearing.  Adjusting the margins doesn't seem to work, just changes where the text disappears on the page.
[03:37] <vocx> ShackJack, oh that's right, check the permissions on the mount point /media/Secondary. I believe only users within the specified group can write to it. Did you use the uid or gid options?
[03:37] <kurtoba> avt3kk: 'mixxx'
[03:37] <tinman47> printk_ its not workin...
[03:37] <crysis> wastrel: what do u mean?
[03:37] <Xero> wastrel, Kill protection is disabled on this network
[03:37] <Xero> That's the message i get from Nickserv.
[03:37] <wastrel> shows what i know
[03:37] <avt3kk> mixxx?
[03:37] <asc> Could somebody recommend a PCI or PCI-E gigabit ethernet card that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[03:37] <dug> avt3kk: i also see dbmix and mixxx, i was trying to find this blog that has a lot about dj software, can't remember url or name now tho
[03:38] <gnurph> anybody have experience installing "Windows Wireless Drivers" and can point me in the right direction?
[03:38] <anonymeeee> are there any pre installed dvd players on this box?
[03:38] <ShackJack> vocx: DOH - I was just thinking that - no I just sudo mkdir /media/Etc... Should I just make that folder so everyone can read/write?
[03:38] <koudelka_> avt3kk: i googled and found this, http://www.ubuntuessentials.net/2007/07/17/ultramixer-professional-digital-dj-solution-linux-version/
[03:38] <donferna> !ndiswrapper
[03:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:38] <koudelka_> it might be of interest
[03:38] <Xero> I'm an op in #bash
[03:38] <usser> asc: pretty much any card will work, I never had problems with realtek
[03:38] <vocx> Xero, complain to Freenode staff not us.
[03:38] <crysis> hey guys, I ran "sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0022 /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd" but write support still doesn't work
[03:38] <Lord_Licorice> how do you find out the name of your linux partition
[03:38] <kurtoba> avt3kk: http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/
[03:38] <Lord_Licorice> for fsck
[03:38] <dug> avt3kk: here's the blog, but i guess it's more about vj'ing and not just about linux: http://www.createdigitalmotion.com/
[03:39] <crysis> Lord, I think it's 'fdisk -l'
[03:39] <phoenix24> jrib: There does'nt exist a cron.allow or cron.deny on my Ubuntu. Is that a fault ?
[03:39] <vocx> ShackJack, not everyone, just the group you want. Maybe you want all.
[03:39] <ShackJack> vocx: Like users, then?
[03:39] <asc> usser: All right, thanks.
[03:39] <anonymeeee> can someone tell me how to play dvd's with ubuntu?
[03:39] <vocx> !ntfs-3g | crysis You need this
[03:39] <ubotu> crysis You need this: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:39] <jrib> phoenix24: you just need to do 'crontab -e' and edit your user's crontab.  I don't have a cron.allow or cron.deny either
[03:39] <printk> !restrictedformats > anonymeeee
[03:40] <progek> I'm having problems connecting to networks with Frostwire, Limewire and GTK-gnutella. This just happened all of a sudden. The problem lies on my desktop, my laptop which also has ubuntu can still connect fine so it's not my ISP. I don't have a firewall installed, and my desktop (with the problems) is set under my routers DMZ zone. Any ideas? :/ I have tried reinstalling frostwire + limewire, also deleting the pref folders .frostwire etc
[03:40] <anonymeeee> !dvd
[03:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:40] <Zeus_> does anyone know where i can get a copy of the original xorg.conf file?
[03:40] <Zeus_> i was playing, broke it, and now my gdm wont start
[03:40] <vocx> !xconfig | Zeus_
[03:40] <ubotu> Zeus_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[03:40] <jrib> !xconfig > Zeus_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:41] <vocx> jrib, ha faster
[03:41] <printk> Zeus_: the bacup you made .  if you not you gota reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:41] <jrib> vocx: :)
[03:41] <progek> I've also tried older versions of frostwire and my java JRE is currently set to java6 (from sun)
[03:41] <Zeus_> cheers
[03:41] <Zeus_> will try that
[03:41] <dug> CNW8835: if you haven't already, install the hplip software for better hp printing support: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/
[03:41] <avt3kk> look at this: http://www.karlklomp.nl/pro/vbend.html
[03:41] <avt3kk> hehe
[03:42] <Eighties2> what is this damn ultimate ubuntu I seen on distro watch?
[03:42] <vocx> progek, try using java5. It may work, who knows.
[03:42] <CNW8835> dug: yeah, that's what I am using
[03:42] <progek> vocx, thanks but tried it
[03:42] <Xero> !ultimate
[03:42] <progek> I also installed a spare wireless card
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ultimate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <dug> CNW8835: what program are you printing from?
[03:42] <Xero> Crap.
[03:42] <CNW8835> dug: evince
[03:42] <progek> thinking something was wrong with my ethernet cards
[03:42] <progek> nada
[03:42] <progek> it's strange
[03:42] <dug> CNW8835: oh yeah, i had MANY problems printing pdfs.  I finally installed the Adobe pdf reader (acroread)
[03:43] <progek> never happened to me before, and I've been using ubuntu since breezy
[03:43] <progek> currently running feisty
[03:43] <CNW8835> dug: ok, I'll try that and see what happens
[03:43] <linxeh> acroread is the only way to get decent PDF support
[03:43] <CNW8835> dug: thanks, btw
[03:44] <linxeh> even Apple's PDF support on OSX is flawed on complex pdfs, or many created from Ubuntu and other distros
[03:44] <crysis> vocx: I already have ntfs-3g, but when I go to the 'ntfs configuration tool', the box to enabled internal write support is greyed out
[03:44] <EbilPhish> linxeh:  evinice (default pdf) works great for me, better than the offical acro reader
[03:44] <dug> yeah i would print out 2 to a sheet, and evince would make really really teeny text
[03:44] <progek> when I run frostwire, it says 'starting connection' but never does
[03:45] <avt3kk> so mixxx is one download?
[03:45] <avt3kk> not 3
[03:45] <vocx> crysis, Personally I haven't used it. But make sure you unmount the drive before running the configuration tool, since it needs to be remounted with the ntfs-3g driver.
[03:45] <avt3kk> like djplay
[03:45] <wastrel> progek:  i think there's a problem with compiz and java6
[03:45] <linxeh> EbilPhish: evince fails on quite a few pdfs, especially those with complex graphics
[03:45] <dug> avt3kk: go to system->administration->synaptic package manager and you can install mixxx from there
[03:45] <wastrel> progek:  limewire won't even start on my box
[03:45] <rdvon> Hello, Is their an ipconfig /all equivalent in linux? :)
[03:45] <MotivationNow> hey im trying to backup my amarok database with http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo#Automatic_Backups           but i have no idea how to run a bash script.  anyone know whats going on? im getting an error that  that permission is denied when i try to run it from the terminal
[03:45] <wastrel> rdvon:  ifconfig
[03:45] <crysis> vocx: I did unmount it before trying to remount
[03:45] <Xero> wastrel, I use compiz and java6...
[03:46] <Xero> and even Frostwire.
[03:46] <Xero> I have no problems.
[03:46] <progek> wastrel thanks, well when I run something like beryl frostwire does not show because the java Swing API has some issue on some machines
[03:46] <rdvon> wow! a one letter difference! thanks!
[03:46] <wastrel> Xero:  i mean with limewire dunno from frostwire
[03:46] <progek> but I'm just using standard gnome
[03:46] <vocx> crysis, well reboot! It works too in Linux.
[03:46] <avt3kk> ook ty Dug :)
[03:46] <Random832> will gnome run an .Xmodmap file when i log in, or an .xsession or the like?
[03:46] <crysis> vocx: i can't reboot, i'm on live
[03:46] <Badpenguin86> How much more power from a laptop does compiz take? Will it kill my batery life?
[03:46] <Xero> Frostwire is basically a free, legal version o limewire pro.
[03:46] <progek> the application shows fine, just has some connection trouble
[03:46] <wastrel> i know what it is, just don't use it
[03:46] <wastrel> heh
[03:46] <EbilPhish> Hopefully the new MARS stuff from adobe help fix PDF (its some kind of open xml pdf spec) http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/mars/
[03:47] <rdvon> How do I figure out things like my gateway, subnet mask,  dns and such?
[03:47] <Random832> EbilPhish: is it a good xml standard, or is it like Office Proprietary XML?
[03:47] <asc> BaD-Laptop: It's probably safe to say that it doesn't decrease power use.
[03:47] <asc> er
[03:47] <asc> Badpenguin86*
[03:47] <avt3kk> brb
[03:47] <vocx> rdvon, "ifconfig" and "iwconfig"
[03:47] <asc> rascally tabbed completion
[03:48] <panosru> does anyone knows what i need to download from linux DC++?
[03:48] <ShackJack> Can anyone tell me how to make it so my second mounted hard drive is read writable? Is there something I have to do to the media mount point?  Tried changing permissions, ownership, etc...
[03:48] <panosru> i have ports opend from router
[03:48] <jrib> ShackJack: what filesystem?
[03:48] <crysis> vocx: I can't reboot cause I'm in a live session. any alternatives?
[03:48] <Zeus_> ok, this reconfig is going to reset too many settings... how do i cancel it so i can try fixing the xorg.conf file directly ?
[03:48] <rdvon> vocx: sorry, I was looking in the wrong place. Didn't mean to ask the same question again :)
[03:48] <ShackJack> jrib: Ext3 -- according to mount it is readwritable - /dev/sdb1 on /media/Secondary type ext3 (rw)
[03:48] <rdvon> I've got it now.
[03:49] <MotivationNow> panosru, get automatrix
[03:49] <EbilPhish> Random832:  Looks to be a good one but there hasn't been much discussion on it, PDF is apparently an open standard now toonow too
[03:49] <jrib> ShackJack: you need to set the permissions appropriately.  What does 'ls -ld /media/Secondary' return now?
[03:49] <Zeus_> ctrl-c / ctrl-x doesnt seem to work.
[03:49] <stdin> ShackJack: see what the permissions are, ls -ld /media/Secondary
[03:49] <wastrel> rdvon:  route   will give you the gateway  (the "default")
[03:49] <vocx> ShackJack, if everything fails, and you have a good fstab, reboot!
[03:49] <vocx> crysis, I'm out of answers...
[03:49] <stdin> panosru: *don't* get automatix
[03:49] <crysis> vocx: ok, thanks anyway
[03:49] <crysis> EbliFish: can you help me with ntfs-3g? I installed it, but when I go to the 'ntfs configuration tool', the box to enabled internal write support is greyed out
[03:49] <stdin> MotivationNow: don't tell people to use that
[03:50] <rdvon> wastrel: it gives me an * symbol under gateway..
[03:50] <MotivationNow> stdin,  why?
[03:50] <stdin> !automatix | MotivationNow
[03:50] <ubotu> MotivationNow: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:50] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Can you do it manually on the console
[03:50] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin drwxrwxr-x 3 nate nate 4096 2007-09-15 21:36 /media/Secondary/
[03:50] <jake111> Hello people.  Does anyone know if ther is some kind of FAQ or something on connecting to the Internet?  I've tried Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, and Damn Small Linux, all on three different computers, and none of them recognize any of my network adaptors.
[03:50] <n3tfury> automatrix is rubbish
[03:50] <wastrel> rdvon:  default gateway's not set then :] 
[03:50] <vocx> crysis, also mention that you are on live cd
[03:50] <panosru> well i get it work ok! I though that i need to open the ports from the system to like in windows, but i have no firewall so i'm cool :P
[03:50] <EbilPhish> crysis: mount -t /dev/whatever /media/somedir ntfs-3g
[03:50] <crysis> vocx: ok
[03:50] <panosru> thanks ;)
[03:50] <stdin> ShackJack: and what happens when you try to write to it?
[03:50] <rdvon> wastrel: how do i set it? in the knetwork manager? :] 
[03:51] <ShackJack> stdin: Nautilus says no perms... thogh i can as root...
[03:51] <mohamed_> !sound
[03:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:51] <EbilPhish> crysis: that should be 'mount /dev/whatever /media/somedir -t ntfs-3g'
[03:51] <wastrel> rdvon:  sudo route add default gw <gateway address>     dunno from kde
[03:51] <jrib> ShackJack: press the "reload" button in nautilus
[03:52] <rdvon> wastrel: hmm... What's a good gate way?
[03:52] <wastrel> rdvon:  the one for your network :]    usually the .1 address
[03:52] <Yasumoto_> jake111: are you connecting using wireless or a wired ethernet connection?
[03:53] <stdin> rdvon: the gateway is your router (if you have one) or you're ISP will assign one
[03:53] <rdvon> this is all new to me. sorry! :] 
[03:53] <wastrel> rdvon:  ex: my ip is 192.168.2.105  my gateway is 192.168.2.1
[03:53] <crysis> EbilPhish: I tried "sudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd -t ntfs-3g" but it wasn't correct, they say
[03:53] <EbilPhish> crysis: remove the first -t
[03:53] <CNW8835> ok, acroread did the same thing as evince (it didn't adjust the size of the document properly to fit within the printer margins) even with the "reduce to fit within printer margins" option enabled
[03:53] <tarelerulz> when you run a vnc  name looking like mycomputer:0  ,but when I put that into a vnc client I can't connect to that come  ,but the ip works
[03:53] <geekberg> Im a reformed Windows user, Im proficient with dos and windows command line, but new to terminal.  How can I end apps that are not responding, like Firefox?
[03:53] <crysis> EbilPhish: ok
[03:53] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I've tried both
[03:53] <rdvon> wastrel: it says network unreachable!
[03:54] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: I think I got it - directory wasnt chmodded to 777... I changed owner back to root and group to users - does that sound right?
[03:54] <wastrel> rdvon:  are you trying to ping it?
[03:54] <bulmer> geekberg: you find its pid via ps -aux and then kill -15 thatpid
[03:54] <EbilPhish> geekberg:  Click the x a bunch of times and it should give you a popup, or ALT+f2 and "xkill" then click on the thing you want to kill
[03:54] <Yasumoto_> jake111: wow. how old are your computers?
[03:54] <rdvon> wastrel: i typed this: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[03:54] <jrib> ShackJack: well, both ways should work
[03:54] <tyvek> geekberg: killall -9 firefox-bin
[03:54] <jake111> One is new this year - one is about 6 years old, and one is over ten years old
[03:55] <juannicolas> hello, I'm trying to setup a VPN server with pptp usign webmin, can someone help me or give me an url with a step to?
[03:55] <stdin> ShackJack: it'd normally be root:root, but if you set it 777 then it doesn't matter
[03:55] <jake111> I was really suprised when the new computer couldn't get online
[03:55] <rdvon> wastrel: it says word for word: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[03:55] <wastrel> geekberg:  there's also pgrep and pkill  (use pkill with care )
[03:55] <Yasumoto_> jake111: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-out-what-driver-my-ethernet-card-is-using/
[03:55] <bulmer> juannicolas: google.com :)
[03:55] <juannicolas> :(
[03:55] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: SOrry don't follow both ways -- what *should* the ownership and permissions be for /media/Secondary?
[03:55] <juannicolas> im tired of google
[03:55] <crysis> EbilPhish: this is what it outputs "Volume is scheduled for check. Please boot into Windows TWICE, or
[03:55] <crysis> use the 'force' mount option."
[03:56] <wastrel> rdvon:  i'm guessing you don't have a network interface configured yet on the 192.168.1.* network
[03:56] <crysis> EbilPhish: what does the 'scheduled for a check' mean?
[03:56] <jrib> ShackJack: it depends on what you want it to be, both ways will give the "nate" user full permissions
[03:56] <Yasumoto_> jake111: can you tell me what driver you're using?
[03:56] <geekberg> Rock On! Thanks much, im still learning terminal.  I really like the thought of not having to reboot!
[03:56] <wastrel> geekberg:  and not to forget,  killall
[03:56] <EbilPhish> crysis:  try adding '-o force'
[03:56] <lijian> join <ubuntu-cn>
[03:56] <rdvon> wastrel: i'll just go up 1 everytime than tell I figure out which one has it ;)
[03:56] <ShackJack> jrib: O.K. Didn't know if chmodding 777 was frowned upon or necessary to get ti to work (it seems that it is)
[03:56] <EbilPhish> crysis:  It means it wants to do a scan disk
[03:56] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I'm not sure...  how do I find out?
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: it's not working.. :(
[03:57] <crysis> EbliPhish, can I run a scandisk from ubuntu?
[03:57] <rdvon> how do i configure a network on the 192.168.1.* ?
[03:57] <Kazer0> So I need some help getting ubuntu on my laptop. Dell E1505 with X1300. LiveCD wont start in Safe Mode or normal. Any ideas?
[03:57] <wastrel> rdvon:  you need to configure a network interface first
[03:57] <Xero> crysis, it's not scandisk, but yes.
[03:57] <jrib> ShackJack: if you want everyone to have full access then that's the correct thing to do
[03:57] <stdin> ShackJack: depends on what you want it to be, if you want your user to write to it then you can make it world writeable or group writeable with you in the group. there are a few different ways to do it
[03:57] <Xero> It's called fsck.
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: oh. :] 
[03:57] <Badpenguin86> My laptop sometimes stalls during shutdown when running init.d programs. Is there a way to find which one is causing the hang-up?
[03:57] <wastrel> Kazer0:  try the alternate cd
[03:57] <EbilPhish> EbilPhish:  Theres ntfsfix but its not quite the same and will probally flag it as needing a check by windows anyway
[03:57] <EbilPhish> crysis:  /\
[03:57] <rdvon> wastrel: How do i configure a network interface :)
[03:58] <crysis> so, how do I run the equivalent of scan disk on ubuntu 7.04?
[03:58] <wastrel> sry, wife needs the internet :] 
[03:58] <EbilPhish> I have really gotta stop messaging myself 
[03:58] <Kazer0> wastrel: Theres an alternate now?
[03:58] <wastrel> afk for a bit
[03:58] <crysis> lol
[03:58] <Yasumoto_> jake111: that link I sent you should tell you
[03:58] <bulmer> Badpenguin86: go see /var/log/messages file
[03:58] <ShackJack> jrib: stdin: vocx: O.K. thanks all for the tips :)
[03:58] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I read the link, but it appears to be directions that you use under Linux?  I'm on windows xp right now, as it's the only thing I can get online with
[03:58] <stdin> !fsck | crysis
[03:58] <ubotu> crysis: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:58] <crysis> thanks
[03:58] <EbilPhish> crysis:  ntfsfix /dev/device
[03:58] <crysis> ok
[03:58] <rdvon> wastrel: is there any reason for my internet connection to keep resetting itself?
[03:58] <Yasumoto_> jake111: ah, alright. can you boot up one of the other computers?
[03:59] <jake111> Yasumoto:  I think so - do i just skip the network set up part though?
[03:59] <crysis> EbilPhish: bts, when I try to boot windows, it restarts just as the scrolling bar shows up
[03:59] <jerbear> what's a good bittorrent client? azureus has started randomly crashing on me, and i am fed up with it
[03:59] <dug> try vuze (just kidding)
[03:59] <EbilPhish> crysis:  That would be why it flags it as needing a check, if windows doesn't shutdown cleanly it will do that
[04:00] <Psyber> man I have vuze
[04:00] <Psyber> hate
[04:00] <crysis> EbliPhish: but wouldn't windows at least put me in the scan disc mode, automatically?
[04:00] <crysis> jerbear: deluge is the best for Ubuntu
[04:00] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: run it in advanced mode
[04:00] <jerbear> crysis: thanks
[04:00] <jerbear> crysis: do you have a link?
[04:00] <Yasumoto_> jake111: yeah, just boot up an ubuntu livecd
[04:01] <crysis> no, just google it
[04:01] <irotas> could someone please explain to me the difference between the 'skype' package and 'skype-static' ?
[04:01] <crysis> jerbear: also, utorrent works pretty well with Wine
[04:01] <irotas> is it just a difference in linking?
[04:01] <Psyber> BaD_CrC:  I just use the oldschool azures
[04:01] <tjduavis> good evening everyone
[04:01] <EbilPhish> crysis:  It needs to load some stuff first, so if it dies befoure then it won't. If you have a windows cd you can probally run the checker on that
[04:01] <crysis> ok
[04:01] <crysis> EbliPhish: so scan disc is THAT important?
[04:01] <ShackJack> A Gparted question if I may - I just formatted a second drive with gparted which says it is a 74.5 GB drive, but when i look at the free space in nautilus, it reads 69.5... Does anyone know what might have happened to my 5GB ( i have not run fsck on it yet, AFAIK)
[04:01] <Psyber> does vuez have any advantages over azzuers?
[04:01] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: in advanced mode, vuze looks and runs just like 2.5.x
[04:02] <tjduavis> i was wondering if anyone could help me with getting my wireless to work on a hp pavillion dv2000 laptop?
[04:02] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Probally not, did you try with the '-o force' option?
[04:02] <crysis> EbilPhish: "Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk."
[04:02] <jimmygoon> TFFXF <- Thank God for X Forwarding
[04:02] <Kazer0> More to my problem: Running the LiveCD does not work. X crashes with "No Screen Found", but above says "Screens found, but none with a usable configuration". This is in both safe graphics mode and normal. X1300 video card on a Dell E1505 laptop. Any ideas? I heard alternate CD with no explination on what that is
[04:02] <dug> vuze is azureus, just the new redesigned version of it
[04:02] <jerbear> does deluge have comparable features to azureus?
[04:02] <rocunreal_> i have an USB headset and Ubuntu doesn't allow me to control my Volume only from VLC can i change my Volume when i am listing to a song but its annoying and if im playing any other songs or sounds just using Ubuntu its way to loud is there any way to fix that?
[04:02] <crysis> EbilPhish: no I didn't, yet. I think I wanna try to fix the problem altogether before bothering to get write support to work
[04:02] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Also if you don't need write access you can do it as read only, use ntfs instead of ntfs-3g on the command line
[04:02] <Psyber> BaD_CrC: does vuze have an advantage over 2.5.x?
[04:02] <ShackJack> jerbear: Maybe not quite, but most features, most would need... plus it's lightweight and GNOME/GTK native
[04:03] <rocunreal_> i have an USB headset and Ubuntu doesn't allow me to control my Volume only from VLC can i change my Volume when i am listing to a song but its annoying and if im playing any other songs or sounds just using Ubuntu its way to loud is there any way to fix that?
[04:03] <rocunreal_> can anyone help me with that?
[04:03] <BaD_CrC> Psyber: not incredibly. the auto rate control is nice. it seems to work better with upnp/pmp routers.
[04:03] <jimmygoon> Is it possible that installing ubuntu rather than simply running it off of the live disc will allow better performance from my LCD, because off the live disc, it is baad, even switching the driver i810 to "intel"
[04:03] <Psyber> BaD_CrC:  ahh i c... thanks
[04:03] <EbilPhish> Psyber:  Looks like azureus sold out completely to distributors and made a shiny but horrible mac style interface :/
[04:03] <crysis> EbilPhish: so fsck is the equivalent of scan disc?
[04:03] <jake111> Yasumoto:  hmmm....  it appears the only live CD I have is for DSL
[04:04] <ShackJack> rocunreal_: Did you adjust the mixer (alsamixer)? perhaps?
[04:04] <rocunreal_> where is that?
[04:04] <Kazer0> :( Guess ill have to install 6.06 then, since I cant get the 7.06 CD to run
[04:04] <EbilPhish> crysis:  Yeh, but i'm not sure if fsck does ntfs, ntfsfix does though
[04:04] <rocunreal_> Where do i find the Alsamixer?
[04:04] <tjduavis> hello...sorry to interrupt but i was wondering if anyone could help me with getting my wireless to work on a hp pavillion dv2000 laptop?
[04:04] <jake111> Yasumoto:  the other ones (Edubunto and Xubunto) take me right into installing to the hard disk
[04:04] <Yasumoto_> jake111: oh really? are those "alternate install CDs"?
[04:04] <tjduavis> or know where i can get more information and assistance?
[04:05] <jake111> Two are the regular install, and one is the alternate install
[04:05] <jake111> The regular install on Xubunto wont load at all
[04:05] <Yasumoto_> jake111: I tried DSL for a while back in the day, but never got wireless to work
[04:05] <joebob777as7_> what programming languages do i need to learn to help contribute?
[04:05] <Yasumoto_> jake111: hm, maybe it was a bad burn? that's happened to me a few times
[04:05] <dug> rocunreal_: there is an alsamixergui tool, but it is really similar to the standard volume control
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto: I should try a fresh burn
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto:  hey I'll be back in a few - my kid woke up
[04:05] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm trying out gusty tribe 5, but I can't get my NForce network to work. it seems to setup the "forcedeth" module for it, and sets up 2 interfaces, eth0/1 but neither find a dhcp, and with static settings I can't ping anything on the network
[04:05] <jake111> Yasumoto:  thank you so much for your help
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> jake111: try downloading a new ubuntu CD
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[04:06] <JediMaster> it's a reported bug already (136836)
[04:06] <Yasumoto_> jake111: no problem, good luck! :)
[04:06] <rocunreal_> alsamixergui tool idk where to find that?
[04:06] <dug> !synaptic | rocunreal_
[04:06] <ubotu> rocunreal_: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:07] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: join #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <dug> rocunreal_: search for alsamixergui under system->administration->synaptic package manager
[04:07] <rocunreal_> kk
[04:07] <ShackJack> Any thought as to why gparted takes **so** long to Scan all devices on my computer (like > 20 mins?)
[04:07] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: that's a specific development release channel
[04:07] <dijungal> so what cool new features does the new ubuntu have :)
[04:07] <JediMaster> Yasumoto_: thanks =)
[04:08] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: np :)
[04:08] <ShackJack> dijungal: ask over @ #ubuntu+1 ;)
[04:08] <dijungal> ubuntu+1?
[04:08] <dug> dijungal: a gui front-end to xorg.conf, better java integration, newer versions of apps like pidgin, thunderbird 2, etc.: http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710-new-features.html
[04:08] <ShackJack> dijungal: Channel concerning next ubuntu version..
[04:08] <rocunreal_> Thanks for the Help Dug, i think im it should work now! :D
[04:08] <jimmygoon> better java integration... wooohoo, I didn't know that
[04:08] <luig> hello, how can i  change a particion ext3 in a sata disk from RO to RW
[04:10] <Badpenguin86_> Is there a way to shutdown in verbose mode?
[04:10] <crysis> pelo: can I run an equivalent of scan disc in live Feisty Fawn? (ntfsfix produces errors)
[04:10] <Pelo> Badpenguin86, shutdown what ?
[04:10] <jerbear> does deluge support upnp?
[04:10] <MongooseWA> how do mp3 and ogg compare with regard to sound quality?
[04:10] <Pelo> crysis, I don'T know of a linux scandisk for ntfs sorry
[04:11] <crysis> its ok
[04:11] <Pelo> Badpenguin86, I don'T allow private msg , please talk to me in the channel
[04:11] <Badpenguin86_> Pelo, Shutdown my computer.. it stalls and won't shut down all the way
[04:11] <Kazer0> So if X crashes on the liveCD, and I install using text based installer, wont it crash when after its installed anyways?
[04:11] <Ant1jr> hey how do I open a rar in ubuntu
[04:11] <Pelo> crysis,  I donT' think you'll find a linux prog for ntfs
[04:11] <luig> does anyone know how to change ext3  from  RO to RW
[04:11] <rocunreal_> That Worked Thanks! peace out
[04:11] <luig> ?
[04:11] <Pelo> Badpenguin86,  sudo shutdown
[04:11] <irish_jnr> Hi, im resizing my partition, and it's been at 0% for 5mins now. Is this normal and is just gonna take a while..or am i screwed
[04:12] <Grungebunny> ant1jr i'd say double click on it
[04:12] <Yasumoto_> Badpenguin86_: sudo shutdown -h now
[04:12] <usser> luig: is it mounted somewhere?
[04:12] <Ant1jr> i no
 is ok
[04:12] <Ant1jr> i need the rar to open with fileroller
[04:12] <DarkED> hmm... how come i can only get sound from one program at a time in 7.04?
[04:12] <Pelo> Kazer0,  the live cd requres much more memory the alternate isntall cd is easier on the hardware
[04:12] <MongooseWA> how do mp3 and ogg compare with regard to sound quality?
[04:12] <DarkED> i've got everything set to ALSA
[04:12] <Ant1jr> but it opens with archive manager
[04:12] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: I'd give it at least 30 minutes, then I'd probably reboot and retry
 : is not mount when i start ubuntu
[04:12] <DarkED> MongooseWA, ogg/vorbis is far superior
[04:12] <Ant1jr> how do I open a rar with fileroller
[04:13] <Ant1jr> its not in open with
[04:13] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: if it's still at 0% after 45 minutes, I'd definitely restart
[04:13] <Ally-san> Antljr - you could also use "unrar"
 it took me like 20 minutes with a dual core and 1000 on DDR2 ram
[04:13] <Kazer0> Pelo: But my error is with X not detecting my video card, so wouldnt I have a similar problem after install?
[04:13] <Pelo> irish_jnr,   resizing a partiton takes a while specialy if there is a lot of data on it and more so if it is ntfs or fat32 and it is not defraged
[04:13] <usser> luig: alright do you have a mountpoint handy
[04:13] <irish_jnr> oh god why...just after getting an error. "Resize operation failure...an error occured, the resize is aborted"......im so confused.
[04:13] <Pelo> Kazer0, what isyour videocard ?
 no
[04:13] <Kazer0> Pelo: X1300 Mobile
[04:14] <Pelo> Kazer0, isthat an ati videocard ?
[04:14] <usser> luig: do sudo mkdir /data
[04:14] <Kazer0> Pelo: Yes
[04:14] <usser> luig: do you know the partition name?
[04:14] <luig> nothing happen usser>
[04:14] <usser> luig: like /dev/hda2?
[04:14] <luig> yes
[04:14] <Cyclope`> hi
[04:14] <usser> luig: which one is it?
[04:14] <irish_jnr> any idea what's causing the error anyone.
[04:14] <luig> /dev/sda4 <usser>
[04:14] <Kazer0> Pelo: Any ideas?
[04:15] <usser> luig: alright do sudo mount /dev/sda4 /data
[04:15] <Pelo> Kazer0, ati and nvidia donT' make FOSS drivers so they are not supported in the live cd,  the alternate cd installs a vesa driver so you can use the gui while you get the restricted or binarie drivers,  use the alternate install cd and you will be fine
[04:15] <Kazer0> Pelo: I will try that.
[04:15] <Pelo> Kazer0, there is no trying,    do or die
[04:15] <usser> luig: after that do sudo chown <yourusername:yourusername> /data
[04:15] <irish_jnr> any idea whats causing mine? ^^
[04:16] <Eric> hi,
[04:16] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: are you resizing during an install?
[04:16] <Kazer0> Pelo: I dont like to die, so I think ill do.
[04:16] <dug> Kazer0: if you are installing and the live cd has a lot of problems, you might try ubuntu gutsy tribe 5, it is newer (but final version still not released)
[04:16] <Ant1jr> ok how do I extract a rar with unrar
[04:16] <Ant1jr> I installed
[04:16] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: yeah
[04:16] <Pelo> irish_jnr,  so far you don'T ahve an error just a long function to wait after
[04:16] <fiveiron> i need a CLI equalizer
[04:16] <Ant1jr> how do I OPEN A RAR!!! RAWR!!!
[04:16] <Kazer0> dug: I only have 1 blank CD left, so ill try the alternate
[04:16] <Pelo> fiveiron, alsamixer ?
[04:16] <Ant1jr> OPENING A RAR IS SO EASY IN WINDOWS
 it said that it doesn't exist that directory
[04:16] <irish_jnr> Pelo: i am getting an error
[04:16] <Pelo> Ant1jr,   sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:16] <Kazer0> Ant1jr: You can try to WINE emulater win-rar since I dont know any linux program :P
[04:16] <fiveiron> Pelo, does it also do equalization?
[04:17] <jerbear> there's an option for upnp in deluge, but how do i use it?
[04:17] <Pelo> irish_jnr, what is the error ?
[04:17] <usser> luig: did you do sudo mkdir /data?
[04:17] <Ant1jr> Pelo, I installed it with synaptic
[04:17] <Pelo> fiveiron, sorry I got confused,  forget what I said
[04:17] <irish_jnr> "Resize operation failure...an error occured, the resize is aborted"
[04:17] <usser> luig: which command failed? mount one?
[04:17] <jacob> is it possible to set a program to run at start up?
[04:17] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: hm, if you go to "System" >> Administration >> Gparted
[04:17] <Ant1jr> Pelo, I installed it with synaptic
[04:17] <Pelo> Ant1jr, is this a multi part archive ?
[04:17] <Yasumoto_> it might help keep things separate
[04:17] <Ant1jr> 1 part
[04:17] <luig>  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /data   after i did    sudo chown <yourusername:yourusername> /data
[04:18] <pike_> !startup | jacob
[04:18] <ubotu> jacob: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[04:18] <eno__> hello, all.  My sound stopped working.  I tried killall esd and it did not work.  I know that restarting x would solve the problem, but is there something else I can try?
 i think we miss one command
[04:18] <Pelo> irish_jnr, restart the lice cd,  occasionnaly you get the message but the job was done
[04:18] <Ant1jr> how can i open exes with wine
[04:18] <Pelo> !sound | eno__
[04:18] <ubotu> eno__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:18] <pike_> eno__: does sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart work?
[04:18] <Ant1jr> how can I open an exe with wine
[04:18] <junkeR> when will OpenOffice 2.3 be on the update servers?
[04:18] <pike_> Ant1jr: wine file.exe
[04:18] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: ok, gparted is open
[04:18] <dug> junkeR: prob it will only be available with gutsy
[04:18] <usser> luig: did you substitute <yourusername with the actual username?
[04:19] <Ant1jr> can i set it up so i can just click on an exe
[04:19] <pike_> Ant1jr: if its an installer it will install to /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c
[04:19] <Pelo> Ant1jr, try not to repeat your questions so frequently
 i make sudo mkdir /data and it said that the file already exist
[04:19] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: now you can resize or delete your current partition(s) and create your new ones
[04:19] <Pelo> Ant1jr,  you can make a launcher with the complete command line it in ,  right lick the desktop
[04:19] <eno__> pike_: that did not do it
[04:19] <Ant1jr> also with wine file
[04:20] <Ant1jr> when i look at my c drive
[04:20] <pike_> Ant1jr: id say you can just right-click and do an open with and choose to associate form now on but i dont use gnome or nautilus
[04:20] <usser> luig: aa ok, right well lets try a different one sudo mkdir /newdisk
[04:20] <luig>  <usser>: could we do it all again? please :)
[04:20] <Pelo> Ant1jr, wine questions are better answered in #winehq
[04:20] <Ant1jr> it just says common files in program files folder
[04:20] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: at the very least, you should create one ext3 partition, and a swap partition (512mb - 2 gb depending on the size of your hard drive and how much ram you have)
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo umount /dev/sda4
[04:20] <locellcount> Can anyone remember a wallpaper on the Ubuntu forums that had grass and a single ladybird? It was in a discussion of themes I think... can't find it again :(
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo mount /dev/sda4 /newdrive
[04:20] <Ant1jr> winehq does not exist
[04:20] <usser> luig: then sudo chown luig:luig /newdrive
[04:21] <eno__> screw it, I am restarting x.
[04:21] <usser> luig: or whatever your actual username is
[04:21] <Pelo> Ant1jr,  yes it does  /join #winehq
[04:21] <luig> usser  "the mount point does not exist"
[04:21] <pike_> eno__: open a terminal and run 'alsamixer'  you can hit tab to go throush setting but the ones your concerned about will be in the first playback tab anyway. just play an mp3 or something while you mess with the settings. use M to mute and  < and > to unmute and the arrow keys to adjust volume
[04:21] <luig>  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /newdrive   has failed
[04:21] <luig> usser
[04:21] <usser> luig: sudo mkdir /newdrive ?? did you do it?
[04:22] <Bender1337> hi, i am going to get sprint wireless internet and i am wondering is it possible to use Linux as a server to get access on all my pcs?
[04:22] <irish_jnr> Yasumoto: ok, got an error again. "check filesystem on /dev/hda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them
 yes
[04:22] <Pelo> luig,  sudo mkdir /media/newdriver   then sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive
[04:22] <Yasumoto_> really? hm. interesting
[04:22] <usser> luig: wth paste ls /newdrive
[04:22] <Pelo> Bender1337, the answer is probably yes , but #networking might be a better place to ask
[04:22] <Bender1337> thanks
[04:22] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: how old is your computer/how big is your hard drive?
[04:22] <irish_jnr> do i need to run chkdsk again?
[04:22] <usser> luig: do ls /newdrive and paste the result here
[04:23] <luig> sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive   answer the mount point does not exist
[04:23] <Yasumoto_> irish_jnr: yeah, I would. and fsck if you can too
[04:23] <jpastore> hello, was wondering if someone can help me creating a pptp connection to my office.
[04:23] <Pelo> luig, did you  sudo mkdir /media/newdrive first ?
[04:23] <jpastore> I tried pptpconfig and kvpnc
 I'm using ubuntu in spanish
[04:23] <irish_jnr> alright, ill try that. btw amd 3500. 1gb ram. 100gb hd
[04:23] <gnurph> okay, I have the Windows drivers set up for my wireless NIC (per http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/) and now it wants me to "ow, setup the network parameters for the interface wlan0."  i tried system/administration/network - and it hangs.  suggestions?
[04:23] <usser> luig: doesn't matter
 i think i would be difficult
[04:23] <luig> ok
[04:24] <Pelo> gnurph,  reboot and try again ?
 could you send me the paste address
[04:24] <gnurph> pelo:  should i have to?
[04:24] <usser> luig: do as pelo said do sudo mkdir /media/newdrive
[04:24] <usser> luig: pastebin.ca
[04:24] <jpastore> should I be in a different channel for help with creating a vpn connection?
[04:25] <usser> jpastore: what do you use openvpn?
[04:25] <Pelo> gnurph, I think that should be a good option if you hang ,  donT' start anything else after reboot,  just go straight for the network stuff
[04:25] <gnurph> i'll see what happens.
[04:25] <jpastore> usser I used the vpn connection tool in the network manager
[04:25] <jpastore> and I tried vpnc
[04:25] <jpastore> er kvpnc
[04:25] <Pelo> jpastore, no but remember that the skill set of the members changes a lot
[04:25] <usser> jpastore: oh don't know about that
[04:25] <vocx> jpastore, irc channels are volatile. You are better reading documentation or following threads on the forums.
[04:26] <jpastore> vocx: forums got me nowhere
[04:26] <Pelo> jpastore, hvae you looked for vpn channels ?
[04:26] <jpastore> pelo: no I'll do that now...thanks
[04:27] <P_Kable> I use amaranth repos on ubuntu feisty, and compiz-core doesn't want to upgrade, it comes back saying it needs to be upgraded, I've done it maybe 500 times in a few weeks but it comes back all the time... thx
[04:27] <Pelo> P_Kable, ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:27] <vocx> P_Kable, ask amaranth. Are you sure those are stable repositories?
[04:28] <jrib> Pelo: it's a bug in ppa I believe...
[04:28] <jrib> P_Kable: ^
[04:28] <P_Kable> jrib=>  yes ?
[04:29] <Pelo> P_Kable,  he means read the line above
[04:29] <ddalton> Does ubuntu come with espeak?
[04:30] <Pelo> ddalton, yes,  check in synaptic
[04:30] <vocx> !info espeak | ddalton
[04:30] <ubotu> ddalton: espeak: A multi-lingual software speech synthesizer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.21-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 220 kB
[04:30] <P_Kable> jrib=>  ppa ???
[04:31] <ddalton> so it automatically comes with it when I install it?
[04:31] <jrib> P_Kable: personal package archives, it's where those repos are hosted
[04:31] <ddalton> so when I install ubuntu espeak is installed?
[04:31] <dug> ddalton: no, you install it using synaptic
[04:31] <Pelo> ddalton, you need to install it after
[04:31] <P_Kable> so why is that bug still here after all this time if it's a known bug ?
[04:31] <ddalton> so how does orca work?
[04:31] <Pelo> ddalton, you probably need to install it aswell
[04:32] <lildonkey> hello
[04:32] <ddalton> orca comes with it
[04:32] <lildonkey> i got a problem with ati video
[04:32] <vocx> !info orca
[04:32] <ubotu> orca: Router Monitoring and Graphing System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3 (feisty), package size 4 kB, installed size 104 kB
[04:32] <Pelo> lildonkey, and the nature of the problem is ?
[04:32] <ddalton> where can I read about ubuntu and find instalation instructions. And where do I get the instalation files from?
[04:32] <luig> hello again usser and Pelo, i have to restart sorry
[04:33] <lildonkey> beryl doesnot work
[04:33] <jake111> Yasumoto:  argh!!!  The Linux Gods hate me!!!  I made a fresh CD, and guess what??  THE CD-ROM STOPPED WORKING!!!!
[04:33] <Pelo> luig,   sudo mkdir /media/newdrive
[04:33] <Pelo> lildonkey, ask in #beryl
[04:33] <lildonkey> when  but my video driver are intall
[04:33] <vocx> ddalton, head to ubuntuforums.org lots of info there. Specially look for your exact hardware and model.
[04:33] <luig> Pelo: sudo mkdir /media/newdrive  done
[04:34] <Pelo> luig,  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive
[04:34] <lildonkey>  hay alguien que hable espaol
[04:34] <avt3kk> is there another ap* like mixxx in synaptic?
[04:34] <vocx> !es | lildonkey
[04:34] <ubotu> lildonkey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:34] <Pelo> !es | lildonkey
[04:34] <luig> pelo:  sudo mount /dev/sda4 /media/newdrive   done
[04:34] <vocx> Pelo, ha faster, I knew you were going to use the factoid.
[04:34] <Bender1337> hi, i am getting sprint wireless internet and i am wondering if i can use linux as a server to get internet on all my pcs?
[04:35] <Pelo> luig,  newdrive should have appeared on your desktop
[04:35] <dug> ddalton: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/ there is a download link.  burn the image you download to a cd and boot up to it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
 ves a #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <jacob> anybody knows where the firestarter program is located so i make it run at startup?
 it did
 now what shoul i do
[04:35] <avt3kk> im looking for an ap* like mixxx that I can get from synaptic
[04:36] <Nilisco> jacob, try whereis firestarter
[04:36] <joebob777as7_> jacob, ? ~/.firestarter
[04:36] <jrib> P_Kable: I don't know, but amaranth knows about it so he's probably working on it
[04:36] <Pelo> jacob, you don'T need the path, just start it,  then go to  menu > sstem > prefs > session, third tab , click  save session
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: wow, that's brutal :X
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: sorry, not you
[04:36] <Pelo> luig,  why did you want sda4 mounted in the first place ?
[04:36] <SAM_theman> whats the difference between ubuntu desktop and server?
  ves a este link #ubuntu-es
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> jacob: I meant jake111, but he left
[04:36] <vocx> jacob, most executables are in /usr/bin and those in /bin directories
[04:36] <avt3kk> server has no gui only blinking curser hahha
[04:36] <Pelo> SAM_theman, the desktop,  server is just cli
[04:36] <SAM_theman> cli?
[04:37] <vocx> !cli | SAM_theman
[04:37] <ubotu> SAM_theman: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:37] <Kagee> avt3kk: you should be able to find mixxx in  in synaptic
[04:37] <avt3kk> server black screen only one blinking curser
[04:37] <jacob> vocx ok thnks and i understand
 i want sda4 to be a partitio0n to put movies so when i reinstall ubuntu i can format /home with the configurations
[04:37] <avt3kk> its installed
[04:37] <avt3kk> I want another better then mixxx
[04:37] <Pelo> luig, oh, sorry,  you want to partition sda4 first ok then  sudo umount /media/newdrive
 do you understand me? I just know a little english
[04:38] <Pelo> luig,   sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:38] <tgm4883_laptop> on a fresh install on a brand new HD, what should I set the disklabel as?
[04:38] <gnurph> pelo:  the reboot hosed me.  now it won't even see the wireless NIC any longer.
[04:38] <avt3kk> anything better then mixxx?
 i already have install gparted
 that was the app i use to create the partition
[04:38] <mnereson> is there any command that will blow away the entire installation and get the latest version ?
[04:38] <vocx> mnereson, no
[04:39] <Pelo> luig, sorry, nvm the last few things   if you still have sda4 mounted on your destkop , all you need to do now, is just copy the movies to it
[04:39] <mnereson> thanks
[04:39] <vocx> !best | avt3kk
[04:39] <ubotu> avt3kk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:39] <jacob> vocx when i search for firestarter in the bin directory, i don't find it there
[04:39] <jakob__> hi there - I have some troubles with the clock() in time.h - it returns zero all the time (turionX2)
[04:39] <NMajik> When I try to install adblock plus in firefox it gives me an error (-203), it references the error console and I can list what it shows it that might be helpful. The thing is, when I run gksudo firefox I am able to install adblock plus, but this only appears to have an affect on firefox if I run it as root. I think there is likely something very simple I am overlooking
[04:39] <dug> jacob: it's in /usr/sbin/firestarter
 it does not allow to write
 i can't even create a folder in it
[04:40] <Pelo> luig, what format is the partition ?
 ext3
[04:40] <vocx> NMajik, I think plugins are installed to the hidden home folder .mozilla, and you can also install the plugins to all users if you move them to the appropriate folder in /usr/share whatever. But don't trust me on this.
[04:40] <Pelo> luig,   sudo chmod 755 /media/newdrive
[04:40] <jacob> do i need to have firestarter start up with my computer to protect my laptop or does windows already comes with one?
[04:41] <jerbear> does anyone use upnp with deluge?
[04:41] <vocx> jacob, windows?
[04:41] <jacob> oh sorry
[04:41] <jacob> vocx sorry
[04:41] <jacob> vocx i meant linux
[04:41] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chmod 755 /media/newdrive done
[04:41] <avt3kk> is there any plugins for mixxx?
[04:41] <NMajik> vocx: Where do I tell firefox where to install the plugins to?
[04:41] <Pelo> luig, you should be able to create folders and copy files now
[04:41] <NMajik> vocx: To clarify, I don't remember it prompting me
[04:41] <dug> jacob: once you start firestarter once, it secures iptables for you, and that stays secure even when firestarter is not running
[04:41] <jacob> ....does ubuntu comes with a firewall by default in it's system
[04:42] <avt3kk> ip table?
[04:42] <avt3kk> s
 it does not allow to write yet
[04:42] <gnurph> let's try again:  i need some assistance with Windows wireless drivers - anybody?
[04:42] <vocx> NMajik, Well I think it does it automatically, hence you shouldn't worry. But I'm not sure. I've just installed a few search engines and that's all.
[04:42] <Pelo> jacob, yes,  netfilter  you can make rules in it using iptables in command line or with firestarter in gui
[04:42] <dug> !iptables
[04:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:42] <jacob> dug so i don't need to put firestarter to start at start up?
[04:42] <dug> jacob right
[04:42] <Pelo> luig, it should allow you to write now
[04:42] <Pelo> jacob,  no
[04:43] <NMajik> vocx: I'm confused, if it does it automatically why isn't it working?
[04:43] <Pawwa> .
 it does not allow to write
[04:43] <jacob> mmmm
[04:43] <Pelo> luig,  sudo chmod 777 /media/newdrive
[04:43] <jacob> pelo, what do you mean by no. you saying that dug is wrong?
[04:43] <vocx> NMajik, that's exactly the problem. The next question is how are you trying to install them?
[04:43] <dug> jacob, he meant: no, you don't need to put firestarter to start at startup
[04:43] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chmod 777 /media/newdrive done
[04:43] <Pelo> jacob, I mean you do not need to load firestarter at startup to have a working firewall
[04:43] <Pelo> luig, try now
[04:44] <avt3kk> firestarter is like a frontend is all
[04:44] <luig> Pelo: It does not work
[04:44] <NMajik> vocx: I've been going to firefox's official plugin site an pressing install for adblock plus. Is there a manual way?
[04:44] <avt3kk> it all works but you just cant see it workin lol
[04:44] <luig> Pelo:   :(
[04:44] <avt3kk> unless you use a frontend
[04:44] <dug> NMajik: if you want you can paste this in your /etc/HOSTS file and block a lot of ads: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
[04:44] <jacob> ok, thx (both of you)
[04:45] <Pelo> luig, it should have worked right from the beginning ,  you mounted it , you'Re the owner,   try this  sudo chown /media/newdrive  username:username
[04:45] <avt3kk> np Jacob :D
[04:45] <dug> /etc/hosts i mean
[04:45] <vocx> NMajik, check if there is a plugin "for linux"... actually got a link?
[04:45] <orion1> Hey im trying to install linux and i am having some trouble resizing my hard drive
[04:45] <NMajik> vocx: Quick searching didn't turn up anything
[04:45] <jpastore> no love trying to find VPN support else where. has anyone successfully created a pptp connection in x86_64 environment?
[04:46] <orion1> I have run check disk and restarted twice but that didnt fix the problem.
[04:46] <luig> Pelo:  sudo chown /media/newdrive  username:username   it sais user invalid
[04:46] <NMajik> dug: Can that be easily disabled if I need to click an ad?
[04:46] <Pelo> jacob,  personnaly I don'T think you realy need a firewall in linux if you're just a home user, linux is far more secure then windows and has far fewer viruses and other nasty stuff
[04:46] <Pelo> luig, don'T use username , just your username
[04:46] <NMajik> dug: Well, something that is misinterpretted as an ad
[04:46] <dug> NMajik: no, it's a hard block, the only way to unblock is to edit the /etc/hosts file
[04:46] <luig> pelo i think i know whats going on
 i know
[04:46] <irish_jnr> still having problems partitioning the drives.
[04:46] <avt3kk> this room is always so active :D
[04:46] <jacob> Pelo: ah ok, thx
[04:46] <Pelo> luig, and what would that be ?
[04:46] <jacob> Pelo, i'll keep that in mind
[04:47] <NMajik> dug: Hmmm, that's less than ideal. But if nothing else will work I'll go with that. Thanks for the idea
[04:47] <tgm4883_laptop> on a fresh install on a brand new HD, what should I set the disklabel as?
[04:47] <wastrel> what's a disklabel?
[04:47] <luig> Pelo: my first user when i install brokes down
[04:47] <luig> Pelo: I create a new user and make that user admin
[04:47] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop, linux doesnT do dsklabel like ms does
[04:47] <jebblue> which is better as a gui, firestarter or shorewall ?
[04:47] <tgm4883_laptop> Pelo, well gparted it asking me what to set it as
[04:47] <dug> tgm4883_laptop: if you are in the process of installing, one partition should be labeled "/" for root.  otherwise, labels don't matter
[04:48] <Pelo> tgm4883_laptop, oh, use the msdos one
[04:48] <bruenig> jebblue, try them both, they are just front ends
[04:48] <luig> Pelo: maybe because of that the system does not understand that the new user is root
[04:48] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks Pelo
[04:48] <avt3kk> I thought shorewall you have to be elite to setup
[04:48] <orion1> Can someone give me a hand on resizing one of my hard drivees?
[04:48] <bruenig> luig, what do you mean made that user admin?
[04:48] <Pelo> luig,your current user mounted the drive he should have full access to it
 : well i create a new session and i allow that user to be admin
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, how far have you gotten ?
[04:49] <bruenig> luig, define admin
[04:49] <bruenig> do you mean root?
[04:49] <luig> ?
[04:49] <P_Kable> I can't get my new swap partition to mount at boot. I have to use gparted everytime I boot and activate the swap
[04:49] <luig> yes
[04:49] <bruenig> or a user with root like abilities
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: no where
[04:49] <fatcatmatt> what's up, everybody!?
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, have you installed ubuntu yet ?<
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: i try to resize but it doesnt let me
[04:49] <dug> P_Kable: the swap partition is usually never mounted in a way that is visible to the user (you)
[04:49] <luig> well i does not say root cause i know there is also a root session that is not allow in ubuntu by default
[04:49] <orion1> Pelo: no im running the live cd
[04:49] <Pelo> orion1, unmount the partition first
[04:49] <avt3kk> how do I record mixxx?
[04:49] <orion1> k
[04:49] <NMajik> dug: Is it /etc/hosts or /etc/HOSTS?
[04:50] <dug> /etc/hosts
[04:50] <P_Kable> well dug I still have 760M of swap ... how can I change that ?
[04:50] <orion1> Pelo: they are already unmounted
[04:50] <dug> P_Kable: how much RAM do you have?
[04:50] <P_Kable> 4gb
[04:50] <orion1> Pelo: i ran check disk and i restarted twice i also defraged....
[04:50] <dug> sh*t
[04:51] <orion1> Pelo: i tried using qtparted but that didnt work
[04:51] <Pelo> orion1, how many partition on this hdd ?
[04:51] <dug> you probably don't even need swap
 thanks anyway
[04:51] <orion1> Pelo: 2 one that holds windows and the second is some recovery shit
[04:51] <jpastore>  hey I was wondering if someone here has successfully created a microsoft pptp connection in feisty x86_64
[04:51] <Pelo> luig, sorry I coldn't help more
[04:51] <P_Kable> I formatted a 10gb drive that I don't use in order to add the whole drive as swap, it works great but I have to activate it at each boot
[04:52] <Pelo> orion1, do you get a msg when you try to resize ?
[04:52] <MeRodent> Anyone with any suggestions to forcing a particular print driver? Stupid system insists on using a driver that doesn't work with the printer because it's the foo2zjs recommended driver when there is a more suitable one that actually works.
[04:52] <orion1> Pelo: yea it gave me an error.
[04:52] <swarm> what advantage do you have for a 10gb swap?
[04:52] <Pelo> orion1,  what error ?
[04:52] <orion1> Pelo: one sec
[04:52] <P_Kable> if it goes to hibernation for example swarm
 is ok, now I'm closer to the solution because of you guys thanks
[04:52] <jacob> my guess is that i don't need an antivirus either. is there any viruses out there in the wild?
[04:52] <bruenig> !virus
[04:52] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:52] <P_Kable> anyway I just asked how to add it in the fstab
[04:53] <Pelo> jacob,  i donT' have one, but if you feel better about it   avast makes an nice easy to use one that also scans for windows virus so you don'T spread them around
[04:53] <vocx> swarm, it is too big. But you'll be able to hibernate 10 GB of RAM. Recommended size would be about 1GB or 2GB if you have a lot of RAM and really want to hibernate.
[04:53] <orion1> Pelo: it says FileSystem check Failed! totally 48 Cluster accounting mismatch and then run chkdsk /f on windows and then reboot
[04:53] <swarm> hmm. i have 8gb ram
[04:53] <dug> P_Kable: I think you can find the uuid of the drive (can't remember how to do that).  my line looks like: UUID=8c57507d-a602-4511-8ec5-8366d9d7e002 none swap sw 0 0
[04:53] <orion1> Pelo: i have done that twice though
[04:53] <swarm> but i never hybernate
[04:54] <swarm> hib
[04:54] <Pelo> orion1,  boot back windows and run a scandisk , with auto repair and stuff
[04:54] <orion1> Pelo: i have done that
[04:54] <vocx> swarm, impressive. What computer do you have?
[04:54] <irish_jnr> when i run chkdsk, do i have to run windows again to be able to use the gparted tool??
[04:54] <patbam> hi, i am having problems with language support. i tried switching from english to portuguese, and now my language support dialog seems to be in an inconsistent state. it looks like this http://ruphus.com/stash/Screenshot-Language-Support.png . it won't save and now all kinds of command line apps, including cut and paste, are breaking
[04:54] <orion1> Pelo: should i run it with the windows ubuntu install while running windows/
[04:54] <swarm> antec p180 case, asus p5k-deluxe wifi-ap, dual nvidia 8800gtx's in SLI, q6600 processor, 8gb corsair dominator xms2 1066mhz ram
[04:54] <Pelo> orion1, what ?
[04:54] <avt3kk> guys how do I record mixxx without loosing any quality?
[04:55] <NMajik> dug: Thanks. Is this the solution you use?
[04:55] <swarm> all overclocked, liquid cooled
[04:55] <dug> P_Kable: use this to find uuid of drive: sudo vol_id -u /dev/yourdevice
[04:55] <orion1> Pelo: they have this installer that installs ubuntu on your computer from windows
[04:55] <avt3kk> Swarm is my best buddy!!! :D
[04:55] <swarm> oh, and 6 WD Raptor 150gb HDD's
[04:55] <orion1> Pelo: i think im just ggoing to do taht
[04:55] <dug> NMajik: I use the /etc/hosts file and firefox ad block :)
[04:55] <orion1> thanks for trying to help later
[04:55] <Pelo> orion1, you can give it a try ,  I never did,  it might help
[04:55] <swarm> its a good 3d video editing machine. :)
[04:55] <alecw1> I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[04:56] <avt3kk> Swarm I built my pc but compared to yours mine is like from kmart lolol
[04:56] <swarm> 3 samsung 226BW screens
[04:56] <NMajik> dug: Darn, any idea how you got your adblock installed?
[04:56] <dug> !wubi
[04:56] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[04:56] <swarm> avt3kk, mine does OK :)
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm you need a roomate lol
[04:57] <avt3kk> ;)
[04:57] <dug> NMajik: I just clicked the install now button: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10  Maybe your .mozilla folder has a problem
[04:57] <swarm> in windows xp, it doesn't even get to the 3rd part of the progress bar when loading
[04:57] <irish_jnr> supposidly wubi has a lot of problems associated with it>
[04:57] <Pelo> alecw1, right click on it , select remove,  then right click on the top pannel  add to pannel and put a new one in where you want ti
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm heres mine; dont laugh
[04:57] <swarm> on startup
[04:57] <alecw1> Pelo, were do I right click?
[04:57] <vocx> swarm, avt3kk people you are off topic.
[04:57] <avt3kk> Swarm you having xp trouble?
[04:57] <Pelo> alecw1,  on the notivication area that is on your desktop
[04:58] <swarm> no, avt3kk.. i rarely use xp anyhow :
[04:58] <ubuntu_Begineer> hi all
[04:58] <alecw1> There are like 3 different icons, with three different windows. I mean, they are resizeable and movable and everything...
[04:58] <Pelo> alecw1, try on the little square icon at the top
[04:58] <ubuntu_Begineer> can any body plz help ?
[04:58] <vocx> !ask | ubuntu_Begineer
[04:58] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:58] <Pelo> ubuntu_Begineer, we need questions
[04:59] <alecw1> Pelo, that's just the network manager, I just did that.. all the other windows are still up.
[04:59] <Pelo> alecw1, try restarting x
[04:59] <ubuntu_Begineer> i using ubuntu first time I was want to know how to mount my ntfs partition in ubuntu
[04:59] <alecw1> Pelo, I have done so like 4 times. :(
[04:59] <allorder> I have ubuntu 7.04 x86_64 I try to play the game regnum somone told me to do chroot 32-bit, game run and then i got a black screen that say: out of range, any ideas ?
[04:59] <swarm> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_Begineer
[04:59] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:59] <avt3kk> Swarm did you get my pm?
[04:59] <dirtyhand> is there a way to make an image of a ubuntu install
[05:00] <swarm> no, avt3kk, you have to have a registered name and be identified to PM
[05:00] <ubuntu_Begineer> thanx ubotu
[05:00] <ubuntu_Begineer> !btfs-3g
[05:00] <Pelo> !thanks | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btfs-3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:00] <swarm> go to #avt we'll talk there
[05:00] <dug> dirtyhand: you might google for: remastering ubuntu or similar searches, there is a gui tool for creating custom ubuntu cds
[05:00] <swarm> to keep the chatter out
[05:00] <bruenig> !sorry | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:00] <avt3kk> Swarm im going to pastebin ok
[05:00] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[05:00] <Faintofhearts> I have a question, more regarding the Linux kernel than Ubuntu.
[05:00] <dns_56> allorder: you sure you have everything required in the chroot, ie xlibs etc, and are you passing the desktop environment variable to the chroot?
[05:00] <vocx> ubuntu_Begineer, NTFS can be read without problems. If you use ntfs-3g you may read from and write to the partition.
[05:01] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:01] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:01] <Pelo> later folks
[05:01] <dug> !question
[05:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:01] <ubuntu_Begineer> !ntfs-3g
[05:01] <allorder> dns_56: no.. ?
[05:01] <NMajik> dug: Hmm, must be the case.
[05:01] <bruenig> !love | ubuntu_Begineer
[05:01] <alecw1> I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[05:01] <ubotu> ubuntu_Begineer: Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[05:01] <avt3kk> Swarm this is for you: http://www.pastebin.org/2502
[05:01] <Faintofhearts> I have a 5GB partition set up, and I want to install the linux kernel on it. Is this possible to do while in an Ubuntu session, and  if so how can you do it?
[05:02] <dns_56> allorder: how did you setup the chroot?
[05:02] <avt3kk> Swarm I have a dualboot pc with xp and ubuntu
[05:02] <ubuntu_Begineer> is ubuntu to best for a begineer ?
[05:02] <swarm> avt3kk, you do know that i have no problem, right?
[05:02] <vocx> Faintofhearts, what do you mean "install it". You have Ubuntu, you have the Linux kernel.
[05:02] <swarm> i also have xp and ubuntu, and vista
[05:02] <avt3kk> you said it wouldnt boot lol xp
[05:02] <allorder> dns_56: like it say in the howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=howto+32+bit&page=22
[05:02] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I know that. I mean on a a different partition that is currently blank.
[05:03] <avt3kk> just telling you because I have dualboot and enjoy it
[05:03] <ubuntu_Begineer> is ubuntu  best for a begineer ?
[05:03] <swarm> oh no...
[05:03] <vocx> swarm, avt3kk again #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[05:03] <avt3kk> sorry geesh :/
[05:03] <vocx> ubuntu_Begineer, yes
[05:03] <swarm> i said it doesn't get past the 3rd little progress bar.. meaning the system is so fast it doesn't get that far before it boots
[05:03] <ubuntu_Begineer> thanx
[05:03] <usser> ubuntu_Begineer: either ubuntu or suse
[05:03] <avt3kk> ty for sayin lol
[05:03] <usser> ubuntu_Begineer: suse might be even easier
[05:03] <vocx> Faintofhearts, I suppose you mean then get the whole linux kernel source and then compile it there.
[05:03] <BaD_CrC> http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/699151  <-- any ideas?
[05:04] <swarm> lol thanks though ;)
[05:04] <Faintofhearts> vocx: How do I get it onto that partition though?
[05:04] <avt3kk> ubuntu is like gentoo except its easy as sht lol
[05:04] <bruenig> or arch
[05:04] <avt3kk> and does alot more out of the box
[05:04] <swarm> mmmm.... wobbly windows.. yum :)
[05:04] <bruenig> ubuntu is nothing at all like gentoo, none
[05:04] <ubuntu_Begineer> ok
[05:04] <avt3kk> how is it different?
[05:04] <bruenig> you could not have distros so fundamentally different
[05:04] <avt3kk> cant merge?
[05:05] <avt3kk> package management different
[05:05] <avt3kk> probly
[05:05] <vocx> usser, Suse? (flamewar) I tried Suse, it didn't work, I use Ubuntu.
[05:05] <ubuntu_Begineer> how much should be the ideal size of the partition for  ubuntu & suse ???
[05:05] <bruenig> it didn't work?
[05:05] <bruenig> distros are just things which package stuff, if you can get one working, you can get any of them working
[05:06] <alecw1>  I"m having a weird problem. I rebooted my PC, and when it came up again, my "notification area" was in a weird place, actually on the desktop. I took a screen shot, http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc1.png . Can someone help me get it where it's supposed to be again? :)
[05:06] <vocx> Faintofhearts, well, most sources are .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz so I guess you can fetch them and place them on the partition you want.
[05:06] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: if you are going to use ubuntu seriously, I would give it around 10 gigs at least if you have the space to spare
[05:06] <Faintofhearts> Ok
[05:06] <dug> but a few gigs is enough
[05:06] <ubuntu_Begineer> & for suse ?
[05:07] <allorder> dns_56: I also installed nvidia-glx with synaptic
[05:07] <avt3kk> how can I see how much space is being used by ubuntu?
[05:07] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: I don't know about suse, i think you have to pay to get that version
[05:07] <printk> avt3kk: df
[05:07] <printk> avt3kk: df -h
[05:07] <vocx> bruenig, I know. But this was a year ago. And suse's YAST is nothing like Debian's apt. It borked my PC just with kernel updates. I basically did nothing but fresh install+updates and it borked everything. Funny.
[05:07] <dns_56> allorder: you installed the package you wanted to run in the chroot?
[05:07] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: here are other linux distros to check out, but ubuntu is most popular: http://www.distrowatch.com
[05:07] <dns_56> allorder: do other applications run also in the chroot like xterm etc
[05:07] <ubuntu_Begineer> yea but u can download it for free & burn it to a cdvd
[05:07] <avt3kk> ty print :)
[05:07] <ubuntu_Begineer> *dvd
[05:08] <bruenig> ubuntu gets the most hits per day, that is not a measurement of popularity
[05:08] <vocx> avt3kk, "df -h"
[05:08] <Born_In_Xixax> hi, i suspect my PC's hard drive has some bad sectors or is otherwise failing.  I gather i need to use 'fsck' to check it, but seems there is a catch-22 in that you can't scan/repair a partition that is mounted (I have the default partitioning scheme going.)  What do I need to do?
[05:08] <dug> no one said it was
[05:08] <allorder> dns_56: bash: xterm: command not found
[05:08] <doughboy> I got a question. The Ubuntu download site has a cd installer download for ubuntu. How do you burn this to a cd to make it bootable and install ubuntu? I figured there would be an iso file included so I could us nero or something to burn a cd image. But no the download has no such thing so what do you have to do to get the cd installer ubuntu file on a cd so you can install it?
[05:08] <printk> avt3kk: np
[05:08] <vocx> avt3kk, damn I'm slow
[05:08] <avt3kk> um I realy want to know how much room I have freespace to play with?
[05:08] <bruenig> dug, you did
[05:08] <wastrel> alecw1:  try restarting X (ctrl alt backspace)
[05:08] <dug> bruenig: show me where i said that
[05:09] <printk> avt3kk: it'll tell you that, see USed and Avail column
[05:09] <ubuntu_Begineer> Can we play games on ubuntu like windows ?
 ubuntu_Begineer: here are other linux distros to check out, but ubuntu is most popular:
[05:09] <dns_56> the synaptic is working from the chroot?
[05:09] <alecw1> wastrel: I did that already... :(
[05:09] <JerryMcFarts> Hello, I am install the server edition 7.04, and I am having a wireless issue. When It installs it see my wireless card asks for my WEP password and I connect correct, (says my dhcp is successful) then I reboot into my fresh machine and I can not find "ath0" in my ifconfig  (ifconfig -a)  or in my iwconfig. So i installed it a couple times, then I did a repair and it still sees my wireless, so I got to a shell, sudo apt-get u
[05:09] <JerryMcFarts> pdate; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; that works fine, i upgrade my kernel, i reboot out of my repair cd, no wireless.. So I am confused
[05:09] <printk> ubuntu_Begineer: games written for linux, sure
[05:09] <Born_In_Xixax> doughboy, indeed, you should be downloading an .iso, which you burn with standard tools.  What kind of file are you getting, and can you look around for the .iso itself?
[05:09] <avt3kk> ook
  ubuntu gets the most hits per day, that is not a measurement of popularity
[05:09] <dug> I get nothing from the diff
[05:09] <ubuntu_Begineer> ohh k
[05:09] <avt3kk> dev/sda7 has almost 7gbs
[05:10] <printk> df
[05:10] <bruenig> dug, think about it this way, if you are using a distro, do you go to the distro watch page everyday and click on it? I sure don't
[05:10] <printk> erm
[05:10] <irish_jnr> For my primary ubuntu partition, should i choose ext3, ext2, or fat32??
[05:10] <wastrel> alecw1:  what about removing the notification area from the panel and adding a new one
[05:10] <printk> irish_jnr: ext3
[05:10] <marx2k__> ext3
[05:10] <alecw1> I don't know how to remove it...
[05:10] <dug> bruenig is ignore yet again
[05:10] <alecw1> I have no idea where it is now
[05:10] <bruenig> dug, in fact, I am more likely to click on a distro that I don't use than one I do
[05:10] <Born_In_Xixax> irish_jnr, i think ext3 unless you have significant reasons otherwise
[05:10] <alecw1> I just have dekstop windows
[05:10] <vocx> dug, bruenig I think popularity IS measured by hype and hits per day. But this is off topic let's move one.
[05:10] <vocx> irish_jnr, ext3
[05:10] <doughboy> Yes I look for the iso but there is none. Check out the ubuntu website and see what I mean. The only alternative is the alternate cd.
[05:10] <marx2k__> ext3 for primary linux, swap for swap and if youre sharing a partition with Windows, make that Fat32
[05:10] <dug> bruenig: show me again where i said anything that you said i said
[05:11] <swarm> vocx, what exactly is the topic?
[05:11] <bruenig> dug, I just did, you said go to this site, ubuntu is the most popular, but it isn't
[05:11] <bruenig> it has most hits per day
[05:11] <irish_jnr> ok. so i have 20gb ext3 and 2gb for swap. Is that enough
[05:11] <dug> bruenig: i pointed him to distrowatch, and I told him ubuntu is the most popular.  look up "clause" in the dictionary
[05:11] <doughboy> I could install efty which I have a bootable cd for and upgrade to feisty but that is way too much trouble.
[05:11] <vocx> swarm, this is ubuntu support channel. Only support help issues here. Discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <swarm> cool. :)
[05:11] <bruenig> dug, you did it specifically in context referencing distro watch, also you do not have any support for it being popular anyways beyond that
[05:12] <allorder> dns_56: what package i should install ?
[05:12] <swarm> i have a question. I have another computer with an 80gb hdd...
[05:12] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I don't have the permissions to extract it to the partition. Any idea how I can get them? Just running in root wasn't enough.
[05:12] <wangensh> what's the release time of ubuntu7.10
[05:12] <swarm> vista is on 70gb, ubuntu on 10 gb
[05:12] <Matthew_> how do you recover your account so it can do sudo again
[05:12] <printk> wangensh: 10/07 :)
[05:12] <dug> bruenig: you just made 2 separate points in one sentence.  yay, guess what, i did the same thing
[05:12] <Matthew_> mine locked me out of using sudo
[05:12] <swarm> how would you resize it so ubuntu is on a larger partition?
[05:12] <wastrel> Wanderer:  sometime in october
[05:12] <Born_In_Xixax> doughboy, is what you are looking for here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[05:12] <wastrel> er, sorry wangensh
[05:12] <buttercups> irish_jnr:  perfect
[05:12] <bruenig> dug, you are stretching, its fun to watch though, I applaud your backpedalling efforts
[05:12] <wangensh> are you sure?
[05:12] <dirtyhand> so I just installed a ton of packages on a new ubuntu server install... how can I make an image or save this so i dont have to do the whole thing again
[05:12] <dug> bruenig: i'm going to have to /ignore you again i see
[05:13] <printk> wangensh: hence 7.10 version number?
[05:13] <dug> a lot of tards in the channel
[05:13] <bruenig> I am glad to have a concession even one without an admittance of being wrong
[05:13] <joatmon> im a linux noob
[05:13] <wangensh> huh
[05:13] <vocx> Faintofhearts, no, root is enough. Most probably the partition is not mounted or something. Post the /etc/fstab in the pastebin?
[05:13] <dns_56> allorder: if you are using synaptic from within the chroot you should have the xlibs setup, if you also installed the application you want from synaptic it should also work
[05:13] <dug> bruenig i didn't say a single thing wrong, so shut it
[05:13] <marx2k__> swarm, you can use the GParted to shrink/expand partitions
[05:13] <bruenig> holy crap, I pierced the ignore
[05:13] <bruenig> I am amazing
[05:13] <marx2k__> though it can take a long time if you have a lotof data to shrink/expand
[05:14] <allorder> dns_56: Im trying to run a game under chroot
[05:14] <swarm> marx2k__, it shows up with a padlock and asks if i have installed the proper plugin for that partition.
[05:14] <Kazero> Can someone link me to that open source burning program to burn the ISO from windows?
[05:14] <wangensh> I want to know,ubuntu 3d desktop can use on my ibm t43?
[05:14] <bruenig> dug, also I recognized that you didn't admit to being wrong, calm down, we know that you didn't admit to it, just conceded my point
[05:14] <marx2k__> swarm: try unmounting it
[05:14] <un_dave> another question for you all... i have xinerama working with 3 monitors at the moment, and was wondering if it's possible to get windows to go onto the appropriate panel, depending on which monitor i have them on
[05:14] <wastrel> wangensh:  i have it running on my t42
[05:14] <dug> bruenig: ok, tell me what point i conceded, you troll
[05:14] <gnurph> what's the command to initiate a dhcp request?
[05:14] <marx2k__> also, I would use the GParted LiveCD
[05:14] <bruenig> gnurph, dhclient interface
[05:14] <wastrel> gnurph:  sudo dhclient
[05:14] <wangensh> oh
[05:14] <gnurph> ty
[05:15] <joatmon> can some one  help a linux noob  , so i can get my dual  monitors and working  on a dell dim 3000
[05:15] <marx2k__> joatmon: what kind of vidcard
[05:15] <dug> !twinview | joatmon
[05:15] <ubotu> joatmon: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[05:15] <swarm> same thing. marx2k__
[05:15] <dug> google for twinview ubuntu joatmon, that will give a few tutorials perhaps
[05:15] <marx2k__> swarm: what kind of partition is it? Fat32? NTFS?
[05:15] <swarm> ntfs
[05:16] <doughboy> thanks I will try that link and see the results. I wonder what was up with the file they are calling a cd installer is all about. I know the file size is the same as the one I am getting from the link just provided. Who knows just happy to get the right one and move on along.
[05:16] <joatmon> coll thanks for the links checking them out now
[05:16] <un_dave> joatmon: i just set that up with 3 monitors on an nvidia cards, shouldnt be too hard
[05:16] <swarm> it is vista.
[05:16] <Born_In_Xixax> wangensh, i have it working fine on t43p
[05:16] <dns_56> allorder: well i have not tried running games in a chroot but it should work, not sure how opengl works in a chroot though, is it possible to build a 64 bit version yourself or is it a commercial game
[05:16] <marx2k__> swarm: use the GParted LiveCD.. thats what I always use, and it always works though I havent used it with vista but it should just be normal ntfs
[05:16] <wangensh> ok,thank you
[05:16] <swarm> ok
[05:16] <irish_jnr> in my main partition, i should change the mount point from "/media/hda4" to "/" right. So it'd be that and the swap partition. Do I also choose to format them?
[05:16] <marx2k__> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:16] <junkeR> is there any fix for when using the wheel scroll over flash item in firefox?
[05:16] <swarm> downloading
[05:17] <un_dave> anyone have any ideas how to get windows to go to the appropriate panel bar thing when i move them to a different monitor ?
[05:17] <Born_In_Xixax> hi, how can i manually perform a sector-level disk scan of my boot partition?  is this possible without a boot disc?
[05:17] <giRL> sgrrrrssssse
[05:17] <marx2k__> a sector level scan, eh?
[05:18] <wastrel> junkeR:  if you find out let me know
[05:18] <Nighthawk420> KENTUCKY BEAT LOUISVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1  NO HEISMAN FOR BROHM!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[05:18] <wastrel> what sport?
[05:18] <vocx> Born_In_Xixax, isn't possible with fsck? I'm not sure.
[05:19] <vocx> wastrel, you obviously aren't into sports!
[05:19] <ubuntu_Begineer> how to check wht version of ubuntu im using ?
[05:19] <wastrel> ubuntu_Begineer:  lsb_release -a
[05:19] <irish_jnr>  in my main partition, i should change the mount point from "/media/hda4" to "/" right. So it'd be that and the swap partition. Do I also choose to format them?
[05:19] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: system->administration->system monitor
[05:19] <un_dave> vocx: not everyone here is in america :P
[05:20] <vocx> un_dave, indeed!
[05:20] <wastrel> no i'm in the US.   just don't follow sports
[05:20] <irish_jnr> can someone answer my last question please. ill give you a cookie
[05:20] <Nighthawk420> FOOTBALL
[05:20] <ShackJack> HI all - reformatting a second hard drive with gparted as ext3 - is it recommended I use "round to cylinders" option or not..  I tried with and I seem to come up with missing gigabytes (74GB drive reads as 69.5GB free in nautlilus)
[05:20] <marx2k__> irish_jnr: if youre setting up ubuntu to /dev/hda4, then yes... but i dont think u need to format them ... the ubuntu setup should do that for you
[05:20] <Nighthawk420> BRIAN BROHM NO HEISMAN CUZ U FU**ED UP!!!!!!!
[05:20] <Nighthawk420> HELL YAAAAA
[05:20] <un_dave> my question first, and i'll give 2 cookies!
[05:20] <bruenig> !ops | Nighthawk420
[05:20] <ubotu> Nighthawk420: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:20] <irish_jnr> ok, thaks marx2k
[05:20] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  partof that is rounding.. :) and the reserved space.
[05:20] <dug> irish_jnr: yes, one partition is "/" and one is swap, that sounds good, and format them (ext3 or whatever)
[05:20] <marx2k__> ShackJack: : Isnt that just the formatted capacity of 74GB?
[05:21] <swarm> besides compiz-fusion, what other eyecandy is available?
[05:21] <Grungebunny> im thinking about buying a thumb drive.. are there any particular makes or models that work best with ubuntu?
[05:21] <Grungebunny> swarm emerald
[05:21] <bruenig> Grungebunny, they all do
[05:21] <swarm> besides beryl, etc... i mean other than that KIND
[05:21] <ubuntu_laptop> oops too late
[05:21] <swarm> yeah i have emerald too
[05:21] <bruenig> Grungebunny, look on the box, most of them even mention linux on them, referring to the kernel of course
[05:21] <IndyGunFreak> Grungebunny: they likekly all work... you just have to format them to a filesystem ubuntu can see.
[05:21] <dug> Grungebunny: don't get a flash drive with U3 stuff on it, preferably
[05:21] <swarm> its pretty.
[05:21] <bruenig> most thumbdrives, those under 2 gigs at least are formatted fat16
[05:22] <Grungebunny> dug so avoid the flash drive?
[05:22] <ShackJack> marx2k__: Dr_willis - it seems like a lot of space for rounding - and I don't know what the reserved space is? I though maybe turning off the "round to cylinders" options would lessen that?
[05:22] <Grungebunny> will formatting a thumb drive for use on ubuntu a pretty easy thing to do or is it a pain in the a$$ ?
[05:22] <dug> Grungebunny: there are flash drives with or without U3 stuff on it.  without is preferable, otherwise you have to run a u3 uninstaller to get the partitions and space back
[05:22] <IndyGunFreak> i've got USB hard drives, and none of them have ever given me an issue after formatting them.
[05:22] <bruenig> Grungebunny, you will not likely need to format it
[05:22] <vocx> ShackJack, are you sure you aren't confusing Gigabytes with Gibibytes. Search wikipedia. One is powers of ten, the other powers of two.
[05:22] <avt3kk> is there a version of ubuntu that runs from a floppy disk?
[05:23] <vocx> avt3kk, no
[05:23] <avt3kk> y
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: ive always formatted mine in ext3, maybe its not necessary, i don't know, never tried it anyother way
[05:23] <irish_jnr> 1.4mb im guessing
[05:23] <bruenig> mine are all in fat16 still
[05:23] <doughboy> Anyway thanks again all. I wait for the download to finish and hopefully this time success. Get the duel boot system up and running and retire for the evening. woohoo
[05:23] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[05:23] <marx2k__> shack, for every gigabyte you lose about 74MB so do the math.. I dont know if it adds up but thats the normal standard for data loss on a formatted drive
[05:24] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, ext3 won't read on random windows boxes which severely limits their usability
[05:24] <ShackJack> vocx: I'm just looking at what gparted and nautilus are reporting... gparted says its a 74.6 GB drive and when done nautilus reads 69.5 GB... I seem to be missing 5 GB - and the drive is a n 80 GB
[05:24] <vocx> Grungebunny, yeah what others have said. Thumb drives usually just work.
[05:24] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: true.. but i'm to the point i don't mess with windows boxes anymore..lol
[05:24] <dug> Grungebunny: a lot of flash drives you have to format to be able to boot to them, i had to do that with a number of them: http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm
[05:24] <bruenig> IndyGunFreak, yeah right now the only use I have for it is to dump stuff I need to print on it and go to places where I can print for free to save money
[05:24] <hum-knux> sorry but can anybody help me?
[05:24] <irish_jnr> failed to mount partitions...what does that mean
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: makes sense
[05:25] <vocx> !ask | hum-knux
[05:25] <ubotu> hum-knux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <IndyGunFreak> means it failed to mount a partition.
[05:25] <JerryMcFarts> Hello, I have an unbuntu installing question. Could I ask my question here?
[05:25] <marx2k__> Shack, did you do the math?? :) ~74MB per GIG
[05:25] <bruenig> JerryMcFarts, yes
[05:25] <irish_jnr> mounting to me means getting onto a horse
[05:26] <irish_jnr> is linux trying to ride a horse...smartass
[05:26] <hum-knux> ok well I had red hat but I just changed to ubuntu and now when I am trying to install bcm43xxx  it says that ---- ERROR were encountered while processing ;
[05:26] <bruenig> !attitude | irish_jnr
[05:26] <ubotu> irish_jnr: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> bruenig, I install ubuntu and during the install it sees my wireless card no problem, but when i boot into the freshly installed drive
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> it doesn't see my wireless card
[05:26] <IndyGunFreak> irish_jnr: wel,l you'll learn a whole different meaning for mount as you learn linux.
[05:26] <bruenig> !enter | JerryMcFarts
[05:26] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:26] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:26] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx
[05:26] <dug> read that one yourself then bruenig and stop being a troll here
[05:26] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, sorry
[05:26] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[05:26] <bruenig> dug, I think most would vouch for my not being a troll
[05:26] <hum-knux> red hat cluster suite
[05:26] <ShackJack> marx2k__: So are you saying nautilus is reporting the base 10 and gparted is reporting the base 2 or something? Why are they reporting different numbers? The drive is an "80 GB" drive which comes to about 75 GB...
[05:26] <hum-knux> and sysem config cluster
[05:27] <Dr_willis> and the 5% or so reserved space...
[05:27] <mike01> anyone here booting a vista install on a physical disk in vmware?
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, lol thanks
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <bruenig> dug, also, I am not asking for help so it wouldn't apply to me...
[05:27] <marx2k__> Shack: beats me man... I just know that the standard is to lose 74MB per gig of formatted capacity :) Thats all Im saying
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> ubotu, you are a bot eh?
[05:27] <JerryMcFarts> lol
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !bot
[05:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:27] <dug> bruenig: i wasn't asking for your "help" either, think twice next time before harrassing people here you disagree with
[05:27] <ubuntu_Begineer> can anybody please tell me how to install ntfs-3g ??
[05:27] <Andex> How do I disable syscalls on auditd? In my audit log, I keep seeing annoying cron entries being executed.
[05:27] <bruenig> dug, there was no harrassment, just a correction of someone who was wrong
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:27] <IndyGunFreak> !thanks | JerryMcFarts
[05:27] <irish_jnr> well, during the installation, it said it failed to "mount" and to close any programs that might be using it? I dont have any other programs running
[05:27] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:28] <ShackJack> marx2k__: O.K. then if nautilus and gparted are reporting same scale then I seem to be losing 5GB,,,
[05:28] <JerryMcFarts> IndyGunFreak, lol
[05:28] <bruenig> dug, as this channel is a volunteer channel, it is necessary to do so at times, you can feel free as well
[05:28] <vocx> ShackJack, well the file system needs some reserved space for managment and other things, that's the only think I can think of. I'd say don't worry. Or buy a bigger drive.
[05:28] <dug> bruenig: harrassment is not your judgment to make
[05:28] <bruenig> dug, nor is it yours
[05:28] <Andex> Does anyone know anything about auditd?
[05:28] <dug> bruenig: ok, so you are saying you are not a troll then
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  you can use the tune2fs command to reduce the reserved space to like 1% get a few gb back
[05:28] <dug> !ops | bruenig
[05:28] <ubotu> bruenig: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:28] <IndyGunFreak> dug: lol, you sure know how to make friends
[05:28] <bruenig> what a joke
[05:29] <ShackJack> Dr_willis: O.K. thanks... that safe to do once files are on it I assume?
[05:29] <ubuntu_laptop> dug: he is not a troll
[05:29] <IndyGunFreak> ban bruenig..lol
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  yep. Its a reserve space in case the users fill; up the HD.. root still has some reserved space to work with.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ShackJack,  it gets a bit large with todays huge hd's
[05:29] <ShackJack> Can anyone tell me about "round to cylinders" in gparted? Is that a recommended option - scouring docs but can't find...
[05:29] <ubuntu_laptop> dug: you keep coming in here and calling people trolls, please stop doing that
[05:29] <jrib> dug, bruenig: let's just drop it and get back ontopic please
[05:30] <bruenig> I was for about 20 min
[05:30] <bruenig> I don't know what happened
[05:30] <marx2k__> Shack: I wouldnt mess with it too much since youre really not losig that much space.. in $ sense, youre losing about $4 :)
[05:30] <dug> he made a mistake, and wouldn't accept being wrong, and kept at it and at it, that's a troll
[05:30] <bruenig> hmmm
[05:30] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:30] <marx2k__> yeah welcome  to the internet ;)
[05:31] <dug> exactly
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> dug: no it isnt maybe stubborn bu as jrib stated please drop it
[05:31] <marx2k__> Welcome to the Internet. YOU FAIL
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> s/bu/but
[05:31] <vocx> dug, I think many people around can tell bruenig has been a good help here so please try to understand him. I believe at this point we trust bruenig more than you.
[05:31] <Andex> Does anyone know anything about auditd?
[05:31] <ubuntu_laptop> vocx: please drop it
[05:32] <marx2k__> Does anyone else here run Azureus and have an issue with it not quitting when you tell it to? (It remains a background process)
[05:32] <vocx> ubuntu_laptop, sorry. I have huge 100s lag!
[05:32] <dug> marx2k__: that's azureus' standard behavior
[05:32] <marx2k__> dug: No, I dont mean minimize to the taskbar
[05:32] <marx2k__> I mean like you select File/Quit and you then manually have to kill -9 it
[05:32] <hum-knux> help guys I had  RedHat for a while but did not like it so I changed to Ubuntu but now that I am trying to install bcm43xxx-fwclutter so my pc can get wireless it is giving me errors
[05:32] <hum-knux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:32] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:32] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx-fwclutter
[05:32] <hum-knux> redhat-cluster-suite
[05:32] <hum-knux> system-config-cluster
[05:32] <Andex> marx2k__ never trust anything that was written in java :)
[05:32] <dug> marx2k__: it waits to close connections nicely
[05:32] <Mez> !paste | hum-knux
[05:32] <ubotu> hum-knux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:32] <marx2k__> Andex, HEY! Im a budding java programmer :)
[05:33] <marx2k__> dug: OH! Is that whats going on? Well its taking a hell of a long time
[05:33] <irish_jnr> ok what does this mean...."The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted. /media/BOOTIT\04EMBR" PLease close any apps using these mount points...??? :'(
[05:33] <Andex> Why!
[05:33] <Faintofhearts> vocx: I have the kernel installed... now what will I need to start command line? bin and something else... what?
[05:33] <marx2k__> I sigsev the thing every time
[05:33] <Andex> Learn a useful program compared to Java, like lisp.
[05:33] <vocx> hum-knux, I don't even know what you are trying to do. Maybe learn to use apt-get before everything else.
[05:33] <ubuntu_Begineer> im using ubuntu 5.10 , Does ntfs-3g supports my version ?
[05:33] <marx2k__> Andex: I like open programming and its in demand for the time being
[05:33] <Dr_willis> REXX is fun :)
[05:33] <Andex> Yeah it is, my company is killing for java programmers :-p.
[05:33] <dug> !offtopic | Andex
[05:33] <ubotu> Andex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_Begineer: maybe its time to upgrade.
[05:34] <ubuntu_Begineer> is there any online upgrade avalible or i have to download the whole cd ?
[05:34] <irish_jnr> anyone answer the question above please?
[05:34] <hum-knux> help guys I had  RedHat for a while but did not like it so I changed to Ubuntu but now that I am trying to install bcm43xxx-fwclutter so my pc can get wireless it is giving me errors
[05:34] <marx2k__> I wish linux specific torrent programs had a ping-based auto-speed functionality like azureus :( Id switch quickly
[05:34] <hum-knux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:34] <hum-knux> clvm
[05:34] <hum-knux> bcm43xxx-fwclutter
[05:34] <hum-knux> redhat-cluster-suite
[05:34] <hum-knux> system-config-cluster
[05:34] <dug> ubuntu_Begineer: download the cd and install from scratch.  backup and copy over your important files if need be
[05:34] <vocx> Faintofhearts, I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to do. I think that is too advanced for me. You seem to be making your own Linux distro at this point. Better read some serious documentation and mailing lists.
[05:34] <hum-knux> mine too
[05:35] <jrib> hum-knux: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead of pasting into the channel
[05:35] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_Begineer: you could probably upgrade to Dapper, thent o Edgy, then to Feisty, but it would take forever, be easiest to just clean install feisty
[05:35] <Faintofhearts> vocx: That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Know where I can find any documentation?
[05:35] <marx2k__> Faint: google Linux From Scratch
[05:35] <ubuntu_Begineer> ok thanx
[05:35] <marx2k__> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[05:35] <nalioth> hum-knux: pasting into irc channels is considered extremely rude.  It is also unproductive and disruptive.  Please use a !pastebin next time
[05:35] <Faintofhearts> Alright, thanks vocx and marx2k.
[05:36] <vocx> Faintofhearts, no problemo
[05:36] <QueenAnya> I have mindspring mail and it keeps saying I have the inncorect password and I have the right one??
[05:36] <JerryMcFarts> ubuntu_Begineer,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu?
[05:36] <hum-knux> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:36] <bruenig> QueenAnya, not really an ubuntu problem per se, I mean does it work on other OSes?
[05:36] <vocx> !customlivecd | Faintofhearts maybe you also want something like this
[05:36] <ubotu> Faintofhearts maybe you also want something like this: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:36] <ShackJack> So does anyone know what "round to cylinders" means when formatting in gparted? There is amazingly no info in docs, forums, etc...
[05:36] <marx2k__> whoa, I remember mindspring..
[05:37] <QueenAnya> its on evolution mail
[05:37] <hum-knux> so anybody can help me with my wireless internet?
[05:37] <ubuntuexp> hello
[05:37] <jacob> anybody uses avast antivirus?
[05:37] <nalioth> jacob: try ##windows
[05:37] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, private message me
[05:37] <QueenAnya> umm I am only having a problem on this computer
[05:38] <dug> there is an avast for linux now
[05:38] <bruenig> QueenAnya, so on other computers, the password that you are providing works?
[05:38] <Fr0> so, I apt-get'd bcm43xx-fwcutter, and accidentally hit "yes" to the question of whether I wanted to automatically grab the firmware.  Now, it won't install because of a 404 error.  Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[05:39] <jacob> nalioth ##windows is a channel about programs?
[05:39] <nalioth> jacob: ##windows is about Windows.  XP 2000 Vista 98 Me
[05:39] <ubuntuexp> I have 2566 MB RAm and whenever I run firefox it eats up lot of RAM & swap space. Is there any other browser that has features equivalent with firefox?
[05:39] <dug> Fr0: you might just uninstall and reinstall it
[05:39] <bruenig> windows bob
[05:39] <QueenAnya> bruenig: yeah it works fine except for when I use it on evolution mail I have two accounts and only one will work
[05:39] <bruenig> don't forget good ole bob
[05:39] <Fr0> dug: tried that... did apt-get remove, clean and install... still had the same problem
[05:39] <jacob> nalioth, i'm talking about avast for linux
[05:40] <jacob> nalioth there is a version of avast for linux
[05:40] <nalioth> jacob: ok
[05:40] <hum-knux> hey JerryMcFarts are you there?
[05:40] <bruenig> jacob, it scans for windows viruses though still
[05:40] <Grungebunny> is it open source?
[05:40] <vocx> ShackJack, every hard drive has cylinders. When you select and arbitrary partition like 67 GB it gets rounded to those cylinders; each one is like 8 MB, so that's the smallest partition you have. It is a good thing. use it.
[05:40] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, yea private message me
[05:40] <hum-knux> I am PM'ing you
[05:40] <ubuntuexp> avast instead of firefox?
[05:40] <jacob> so does anybody know how to update the definitions for avast antivirus?
[05:40] <tico> hellow people
[05:40] <dug> Fr0: I don't know, maybe try the --purge option when you remove it
[05:41] <JerryMcFarts> hum-knux, haven't got anything from you yet
[05:41] <nalioth> avast is not open source
[05:41] <vocx> hum-knux, unregistered users cannot use private messages.
[05:41] <jacob> anybody?
[05:41] <hum-knux> I did
[05:41] <JerryMcFarts> ahhh
[05:41] <ShackJack> vocx: O.k. it is surpisingly difficult to find any insightful information about "round to cylinders" on the web...
[05:41] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: hum-knux: unidentified people can not send /msgs on this network
[05:41] <Grungebunny> hum-knux is your nick registered? it has to be to send IM's I belive
[05:41] <marx2k__> Shack:I agree. I just googled for the term and found nothing conclusive
[05:41] <vocx> ShackJack, I assume it is somewhat an easy concept to grasp. Check wikipedia articles on hard drives.
[05:42] <Fr0> dug: that did the trick...thanks
[05:42] <irish_jnr> how do you unmount a partition
[05:42] <ubuntu_laptop> jacob: you might want to try #avast or #ubuntu-offtopic since ubuntu doesnt support it
[05:42] <bruenig> irish_jnr, you can sudo umount /mount/point or sudo umount /dev/name
[05:42] <dug> ShackJack: just have it round to cylinders, it only make a few megabytes difference
[05:42] <irish_jnr> great thanks bruenig.
[05:42] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, how do you register?
[05:43] <tico> somebody knows how to install or update firefox to the version firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz?
[05:43] <vocx> !register | JerryMcFarts
[05:43] <ubotu> JerryMcFarts: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:43] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: hum-knux: /msg nickserv help register
[05:43] <bruenig> !info firefox
[05:43] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[05:43] <bruenig> tico, the latest one is in the repos already
[05:43] <bruenig> tico, assuming you are using fawn
[05:43] <marx2k__> lately firefox has been getting sluggish on my one box and I cant figure out why
[05:43] <NemesisD> hi guys, i keep having to wrestle with ndiswrapper to get my wireless going, how do i add an interface, my wlan0 has completely disappeared off of my system, even though its in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:44] <tico> bruenig: the problem is I use dapper drake!
[05:44] <dug> NemesisD: what wireless card do you have
[05:44] <bruenig> tico, yeah, well basically what you do is extract the directory and then run the executable in there called surprisingly "firefox"
[05:44] <NemesisD> dug, usb, dlink dwl-g132, i believe it uses an atheros chipset
[05:44] <vocx> marx2k__, some pages maybe rendered slow. I been told this is because the "gecko" engine mozilla browsers use.
[05:44] <NemesisD> dug, i even had it working all day yesterday and today, its bizarre
[05:44] <Crustacean-bob> Gnome theme?
[05:44] <andruk> i installed mythbuntu, and im trying to install gnome, but my networking is down
[05:44] <marx2k__> vocx, well not only that but it has also started having a huge footprit
[05:44] <bruenig> tico, there is no formalized installation, just a pre compiled directory
[05:44] <marx2k__> footprint
[05:45] <tico> i try it but it do not work
[05:45] <marx2k__> Im wondering if its some plugin im using or what
[05:45] <odinsravens> hello
[05:45] <tico> bruening: ok thanks !
[05:45] <Crustacean-bob> Anyone know where I can find themes?
[05:46] <marx2k__> Crustacean-bob: for what
[05:46] <Crustacean-bob> GNome
[05:46] <vocx> marx2k__, my firefox uses like 100 MB. No fancy things, just flash and java and standard stuff.
[05:46] <odinsravens> i have a problem with wineHQ
[05:46] <bruenig> Crustacean-bob, gnome-look.org art.gnome.org
[05:46] <marx2k__> vocx: yeah thats huge
[05:46] <vocx> !themes | Crustacean-bob
[05:46] <ubotu> Crustacean-bob: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:46] <anabelle> him im getting an error with deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe repository
[05:46] <JerryMcFarts> REGISTER
[05:47] <vocx> !register > JerryMcFarts
[05:47] <anabelle> is there an alternative to that pone?
[05:47] <marx2k__> I'd stick to konqueror but it doesnt seem to play nice with digg
[05:47] <marx2k__> Akkregator especially doesnt like digg :(
[05:48] <anabelle> hmmm
[05:48] <NemesisD> looks like dug bailed, anyone know how to add a network interface? ndiswrapper just decided to get rid of wlan0, its detecting the device, i modprobed and all that crap, but wlan0 just isn't showing as an interface
[05:48] <bruenig> anabelle, you can always stick a country code in front of security us.security.ubuntu.....
[05:48] <jimmygoon> quick! name something you know uses udp
[05:48] <vocx> anabelle, may be the server is down. I'd just wait patiently.
[05:48] <bruenig> bittorrent
[05:49] <Crustacean-bob> Can anyone tell me about downloading saving and opening themes?
[05:49] <NemesisD> jimmacdonald, zsnes
[05:49] <bruenig> ntp
[05:49] <home_> can someone tell me how to remove my gnome themes
[05:49] <printk> home_: ~/.themes directory should have 'em
[05:49] <bruenig> zsnes does?
[05:49] <bruenig> I didn't know it even did any network stuff
[05:49] <ubuntuexp> irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntuforums-beginners
[05:49] <dirtyhand_> do I need to create a www-data user for apache?
[05:49] <jimmygoon> ntp will work
[05:50] <ubuntuexp> #ubuntuforums-beginners
[05:50] <home_> I tried replacing emerald for the gnome ones but themes is still active
[05:50] <vocx> NemesisD, does it throw any error in "dmesg" when you plug the device?
[05:50] <NemesisD> vocx, i never really unplug it or plug it back in hold on
[05:51] <JerryMcFarts>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[05:51] <vocx> JerryMcFarts, watch out for spaces. You may accidentally show us your password.
[05:52] <bruenig> vocx, shhhh
[05:52] <JerryMcFarts> lol
[05:52] <NemesisD> vocx, just froze me up :/
[05:53] <mike01> anyone here know how to install the vista boot manager to a different physical disk than grub and vista are installed to but still get it to boot vista on the first disk (while ignoring grub)?
[05:53] <vocx> NemesisD, freezing may be due to various things. Kernel bugs, buggy drivers and hardware. Are you using ndiswrapper from repos or from source?
[05:53] <bruenig> mike01, you'd have to see if your BIOS would allow for such a thing
[05:54] <Arron> has anyone here got autofs to work?
[05:54] <mike01> i can change the boot order of the disks in my bios
[05:54] <NemesisD> vocx, source i believe, i remember compiling it yesterday
[05:54] <mike01> so yes it can
[05:54] <NemesisD> vocx, yes definitely source
[05:54] <bruenig> mike01, so the only issue then is getting the bootloader from disk 2 to boot windows on disk 1?
[05:54] <mike01> yes
[05:54] <NemesisD> ok now wlan0 is back...
[05:54] <mike01> trying to run the vista install in vmware
[05:54] <NemesisD> and its working
[05:55] <bruenig> mike01, might see if ##windows can help there
[05:55] <daylighter> i installed xubuntu text-only and my wireless card was set-up at install, but now I dont know how to get it working... I dont know what the setup program was doing, but it worked!
[05:55] <vocx> NemesisD, yippy. We fix things telepathically.
[05:55] <NemesisD> ndiswrapper is messing with my mind
[05:56] <Grungebunny> vista in vmware thats a scary thought.
[05:56] <bruenig> Grungebunny, hardly, that's why we all have 8 gigs
[05:56] <daylighter> wouldnt vista cause time to cease if you installed it on vmware?
[05:56] <gusto5> hello, question: which codec am i missing to watch trailers on gametrailers.com
[05:56] <newb> hi, anyone know why after i install deluge bittorent client it wont work?
[05:56] <marx2k__> I thought vista detected virtualization and doesnt allow itself to run on a virtual machine?
[05:56] <bruenig> newb, what happens when you run "deluge"
[05:56] <daylighter> oh yeah, that's right
[05:56] <kwtm> I have a webpage that uses a cool font.  How can I tell what font it is so I can set it as my default font?  I can't seem to find the font name in the source HTML code.
[05:56] <daylighter> which is BS
[05:57] <mike01> plan on giving vista in vmware 2-4gb lol
[05:57] <newb> taskbar there show loading deluge then after that nothing happen
[05:57] <jones> ?
[05:57] <bruenig> kwtm, you ctrl + f for "font"
[05:57] <mike01> vista sucks for daily activities like web browsing, but need it for some stuff in school
[05:57] <tarelerulz> Do any of you vnc to control your computers?
[05:57] <bruenig> s/you/did you/
[05:57] <mike01> thus moving it to vmware
[05:57] <Jest3r> Try looking in the css kwtm.
[05:57] <usser> tarelerulz: yep
[05:57] <marx2k__> mike: you need Vista specifically or would XP do?
[05:57] <Kazer0> kwtm: You realize that you should only use standard fonts for webpages as anyone who doesnt have that font installed wont see it?
[05:57] <daylighter> I would VNC to control this server if I could figure out how to get networking going
[05:57] <wolferine> someone good with PHP, I want to hide a file, which contains my DB info, from anyone visiting my site, how can i do s ?
[05:58] <bruenig> wolferine, there is a dedicated php channel...
[05:58] <kwtm> Kazer0: That's not it; I want to use it when *I* am browsing the web.  Since I can see the font on Firefox right now, I clearly have the font installed on my own computer, and that's all I need.
[05:58] <vodkatonic> tarelerulz: no
[05:58] <wolferine> bruenig, yes, I am quite aware of that
[05:58] <tarelerulz> usser , do you use a static ip
[05:58] <bruenig> kwtm, unless it is just an image...
[05:58] <mike01> i have vista installed so its just easier
[05:58] <vocx> wolferine, ask in the programming subforum in ubuntuforums.org but please search previous threads. There is also a subforum on servers and security.
[05:59] <bruenig> kwtm, link the page maybe someone else can see it in the html
[05:59] <kwtm> bruenig: That's what I did... all I got was "font-weight".  The word doesn't appear anywhere else.  I think I'll try the CSS as Jest3r suggested.
[05:59] <mike01> and i have all the programs i need in that vista install
[05:59] <usser> tarelerulz: inside my network yes, my public ip is dynamic
[05:59] <nalioth> JOJO007: you've not asked here since you registered.
[05:59] <marx2k__> mike, yeah... I just cant think of anything I would need vista for, for school that XP wouldnt do :) I use a vmware image of XP for .net dev
[05:59] <kwtm> Good idea, bruenig.  It's http://torrentfreak.com/mediadefender-emails-leaked-070915/
[05:59] <vocx> mike01, please don not talk about vista here. Move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish.
[05:59] <kwtm> bruenig: It's the one where TorrentFreak found out MediaDefender's email had leaked.
[05:59] <JOJO007> help guys with the installation of new software
[05:59] <usser> tarelerulz: why?
[06:00] <mike01> right now i cant, but in the next 2 years i could, anyways getting help from ##windows
[06:00] <Kazer0> God I hope this text-install works, I just deleted all my windows files because it wouldnt resize my partitions
[06:00] <bruenig> kwtm, the title?
[06:00] <mike01> and swiftfox 32 browser is amazing
[06:00] <bruenig> swiftfox is closed source
[06:00] <vodkatonic> just curious, why would you use vnc as a management option over something like ssh?
[06:00] <Kazer0> I like Opera best for closed source
[06:00] <tarelerulz> usser , why I ask is I have trying to find out why when I use vnc with names it don't work at all.  I use the ip of the computer and it works fine .
[06:01] <Invisionfree> Help, what does this mean? ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:01] <newb> i cant get my deluge and truecrypt to work =/
[06:01] <kwtm> bruenig: The title is The Biggest Ever BitTorrent Leak: MediaDefender Internal Emails Go Public | TorrentFreak
[06:01] <JOJO007> help with installation of bcm43xxx-clutter
[06:01] <mike01> i think i installed it through some script to get flash and all that stuff working on 64, and it runs really well with all the firefox plugins it imported
[06:01] <daylighter> is there a channel that is devoted to networking?
[06:01] <tarelerulz> vodkatonic , I not that good on my command line stuff .  Plus it is just easyer for me
[06:01] <jahnkeanater> how do i compile a .py to a .pyc or .pyd
[06:01] <kwtm> Jest3r: How do I find the CSS of the web page?  Is there a command to view it, the way I view the Source?
[06:01] <vodkatonic> fair enough
[06:01] <bruenig> jahnkeanater, python is an interpreted language, you don't compile it, you just run the scripts
[06:01] <kwtm> jahnkeanater: Doesn't python just create a .pyc when it needs to?
[06:02] <mike01> kwtm install firefox web developer tools
[06:02] <vodkatonic> however, I would suggest x over ssh as opposed to vnc :)
[06:02] <usser> tarelerulz: probably u have to do some dns server setup, dunno never done it myself i usually just use static ip and put my comp in /etc/hosts
[06:02] <Kazer0> kwtm: I believe that is Tahoma or Verdana
[06:02] <jahnkeanater> i know you can compyle it their is a module called py_compile
[06:02] <JOJO007> help with my network---wireless
[06:03] <vocx> jahnkeanater, probably you can check the modules documentation, or python.org.
[06:03] <JOJO007> ok network wireless
[06:03] <kwtm> Kazer0: Thanks.  Nice compact font!  Will check.
[06:03] <MongooseWA> is there a way to get compression options in sound juicer?
[06:03] <XsteelWolf> How do i upate a kernel on ubuntu?
[06:03] <tarelerulz> usser , so you run the dns sever on one of your computer ?
[06:03] <vocx> JOJO007, go to ubuntuforums.org , in the networking section there are HOWTO for bcm43xx chipsets.
[06:03] <kwtm> mike01: I know there are Ffx extensions to look at CSS.  I'm actually on a public wifi in a bookstore right now, and just wanted to quickly set my browser preferences.
[06:03] <usser> tarelerulz: no i dont
[06:03] <marx2k__> steel, you mean beyond what the current repositories have?
[06:03] <Invisionfree> How do I start MySQL?
[06:04] <XsteelWolf> no,just the current respo
[06:04] <Sabrebutt> What is the speed of light squared?
[06:04] <doggo> Good evening team
[06:04] <zetheroo> is it possible to have UbuntuStudio installed on the same machine with ordinary Ubuntu Feisty installed?
[06:04] <vocx> XsteelWolf, you do not. The kernel is updated with each ubuntu release or through the occasional security fix.
[06:04] <usser> tarelerulz: im just to lazy to figure it out my network is small so i dont bother, static ips work
[06:04] <bruenig> e/m?
[06:04] <tarelerulz> usser , I am trying to ask if it is something out side your computer like to do with the router or can you run dns server on one of the computer in your network
[06:04] <doggo> i have a question.
[06:04] <zetheroo> is it possible to have UbuntuStudio installed on the same machine with ordinary Ubuntu Feisty installed?
[06:04] <XsteelWolf> I need to update by kernel before compiling nvidia drivers together with the linux source.
[06:04] <marx2k__> steel: just doing a regular apt-get update/upgrade should do it
[06:05] <bruenig> zetheroo, like two different partitions or what?
[06:05] <XsteelWolf> how do i select a fast mirror? sudo apt-get apt-get-mirrors?
[06:05] <vocx> JOJO007, keep trying or give specific errors. Otherwise we cannot guess what's wrong.
[06:05] <doggo> There is a different way to chat in ubuntu different to this ?
[06:05] <jahnkeanater> is there a way to save my settings to move to a newer linux
[06:05] <newb> anyone know why i cant start deluge torrent client?
[06:05] <bruenig> newb, run deluge in the terminal and tell us what happens
[06:05] <marx2k__> Im not sure how to select mirrors... I just the default and get up to 300k/s
[06:05] <newb> hmmm.......
[06:05] <XsteelWolf> i only get 18kb/s
[06:05] <zetheroo> bruenig: well say I wanted to be able to have a UbuntuStudio session....is that possible?
[06:05] <usser> jahnkeanater: yes just backup your home directory
[06:05] <newb> could u guide me alil on how to run deluge in terminal
[06:06] <newb> im totally new with ubuntu
[06:06] <Sabrebutt> /join #iphone
[06:06] <jahnkeanater> k
[06:06] <tarelerulz> newb , I feel you with deluge I have not nothing ,but problems with it myself.  I would get a fast torrent and not get net anymore
[06:06] <marx2k__> Xsteel: bogus.. youre using gnome?
[06:06] <JOJO007> ok it gives me an error about processing clvm, bcm43xxx, redhat-cluster-suite, and ystem-config-cluster,----- I am using Ubuntu ok
[06:06] <XsteelWolf> yes gnome
[06:06] <bruenig> zetheroo, not really, I mean there is always a way, but to do so would be heavily involved with scripting and whatnot
[06:06] <XsteelWolf> i compiled nvidia source yesterday but i fucked up the kernel after installing 2.6.20.16
[06:06] <Crustacean-bob> Can anyone tell me, do I drag and drop themes
[06:06] <Crustacean-bob> ?
[06:06] <XsteelWolf> have to reinstall again,but i don't want to wait that long for installation
[06:06] <marx2k__> perhaps System/Software Sources and then select 'download from'?
[06:06] <stdin> !ohmy | XsteelWolf
[06:06] <ubotu> XsteelWolf: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:06] <bruenig> zetheroo, ubuntustudio is just some other applications, there really is no reason to
[06:07] <usser> XsteelWolf: just recompile the module
[06:07] <Invisionfree> HOW do I start MYSQL?
[06:07] <XsteelWolf> im on 12mbit broadband and i only get 12kb/s... and i got a china mirror!
[06:07] <usser> XsteelWolf: u dont have to reinstall the whole thing
[06:07] <Crustacean-bob> !gnome-themes
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-themes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <bruenig> !prefix | newb
[06:07] <ubotu> newb: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[06:07] <vocx> JOJO007, that is not enough information. Use a paste bin, tell us which guide you are using, etc. Do not paste here.
[06:07] <Crustacean-bob> !themes
[06:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:07] <codename> how do I install World of Warcraft?
[06:07] <bruenig> newb, just open a terminal and type "deluge"
[06:07] <XsteelWolf> i got 2 kernels showing on grub boot loader
[06:07] <codename> would i use Wine
[06:07] <codename> how do I install World of Warcraft?
[06:07] <Invisionfree> HOW do I start MYSQL?
[06:07] <zetheroo> bruenig: I see.... i just liked the thought of having a session all setup for art and design
[06:07] <marx2k__> for some reason, every time I install the nvidia driver manually, I have to reinstall it on every reboot... but when I use the Envy script, I have NO issues... so I would suggest that... but a lot of other people wouldnt
[06:07] <codename> would i use Wine
[06:07] <codename> how do I install World of Warcraft?
[06:07] <Invisionfree> !mysql > Invisionfree
[06:08] <Grungebunny> crustacean-bob gnome-look has gnome themes if thats what ur lookin for
[06:08] <astro76> !repeat | codename
[06:08] <ubotu> codename: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:08] <MongooseWA> #wine-hq
[06:08] <usser> XsteelWolf: does the newer one boot?
[06:08] <marx2k__> code: use Wine-Doors
[06:08] <newb> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'asio::system_error'
[06:08] <newb>   what():  Permission denied
[06:08] <newb> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'asio::system_error'
[06:08] <newb>   what():  Permission denied
[06:08] <newb> * this is what i get running the deluge in terminal
[06:08] <bruenig> zetheroo, to what extent though, like did you want different themes and stuff or just different apps showing up in the menus
[06:08] <Kazer0> WoW wont run in WINE
[06:08] <XsteelWolf> it does
[06:08] <XsteelWolf> but without nvidia
[06:08] <marx2k__> yeah it will
[06:08] <codename> what if you have nvidia
[06:08] <XsteelWolf> i recompiled and all dependencies failed
[06:08] <marx2k__> steel: have you tried the envy script?
[06:08] <MongooseWA> wow can run in wine, can't it?
[06:08] <Kazer0> Hum, whats the point in that other emulator I cant remember the name of?
[06:08] <JOJO007> so Vocx any help???????
[06:08] <e-Hernick> MongooseWA: it can
[06:08] <vocx> codename, check ubuntuforums.org there is a subforum dedicated on gaming. Browse previous threads.
[06:08] <Kazer0> cedega I think it is?
[06:08] <XsteelWolf> i heard from someone envy isn't good
[06:08] <marx2k__> kazer: cedega?
[06:08] <lgc> !flash
[06:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:08] <XsteelWolf> it will corrupt more or less.
[06:09] <bruenig> newb, do ls -ld ~/.config/deluge and paste the output
[06:09] <usser> XsteelWolf: so just do what u did yesterday for new kernel
[06:09] <newb> ok..wait
[06:09] <marx2k__> steel: works on each one of my boxes, but yeah.. Ive also heard some bad stuff.. but Ive never experienced any bad stuff with Envy
[06:09] <zetheroo> bruenig: more like certain apps being available in that sesion along with a theme and overall unique desktop
[06:09] <usser> XsteelWolf: last part only
[06:09] <Andex> Does Ubuntu have a server like distro, like SLES for Suse?
[06:09] <XsteelWolf> i upgraded from 2.6.20.15 to .16
[06:09] <marx2k__> I think a better solution, steel, is figuring out how you can get the nVidia driver to not require a reinstall on every reboot :)
[06:10] <tarelerulz> What ports do you all use for deluge ?
[06:10] <XsteelWolf> that's impossible
[06:10] <bruenig> zetheroo, the theme part I don't know off hand, I could script something to make the menus change and if I had gnome could hunt around until I found the theme, but unless you are capable of scripting you probably don't want to mess with it
[06:10] <bruenig> tarelerulz, I use 5000
[06:10] <bruenig> 50000
[06:10] <XsteelWolf> ubuntu doesn't support my nvidia quadro fx 570
[06:10] <XsteelWolf> i wasn't using the binary distribution,have to go by the workaround method.
[06:10] <marx2k__> steel, see.. thats where envy works great for me :) Otherwise, i'm reinstalling every time
[06:10] <ubuntuexp>  i m new to ubuntu and I m running it on a PC having 256 MB RAM only. I use the default firefox browser and it eats up lot of RAM and swap space. Is there any other alternative for this?
[06:10] <usser> XsteelWolf: oh oh, sorry then
[06:10] <zetheroo> bruenig: I see... well thanks for your input!
[06:10] <daylighter> during installation of xubuntu without a GUI, I was asked for the information about my SSID, WEP, etc... and the installation program connected and downloaded something from a mirror, but now I cant get the card to connect (in fact I dont know how to start networking so the card is enabled)
[06:10] <newb> bruenig ~ this is what i got drwx------ 3 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 2007-09-16 03:37 /home/ubuntu/.config/deluge
[06:10] <XsteelWolf> which nvidia card are you using?
[06:10] <marx2k__> ubuntu: use opera :)
[06:11] <Kazer0> I love opera
[06:11] <jahnkeanater> how do i make a web sight with ubuntu
[06:11] <bruenig> newb, clever username you got there
[06:11] <newb> lol :p
[06:11] <kahrytan> Opera has it's uses
[06:11] <marx2k__> jahn: install apache
[06:11] <Kazer0> jahnkeanater: You only need a text editor to make a website. Ready: www.w3schools.com
[06:11] <bruenig> newb, it should be able to write to that, try doing chmod -R 755 ~/.config/deluge
[06:11] <marx2k__> Ubuntuexp, I would also suggest on a 256MB system to use Kubuntu and use konqueror
[06:11] <zetheroo> jahnkeanater : Kompozer
[06:11] <kahrytan> !lamp | jahnkeanater
[06:11] <ubotu> jahnkeanater: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:12] <bruenig> newb, then try running deluge again
[06:12] <kahrytan> !info amaya |majky|  jahnkeanater
[06:12] <ubotu> majky|  jahnkeanater: amaya: Web Browser, HTML Editor and Testbed for Draft W3C standards. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.53~dfsg.0-1 (feisty), package size 5358 kB, installed size 19336 kB
[06:12] <XsteelWolf> marx2k: What nvidia card are you using?
[06:12] <moDumass> hey all, lets say a tute says paste this file in this directory, but i cant, because im not root
[06:12] <usser> XsteelWolf: hm where did u get the driver from nvidia??
[06:12] <vocx> JOJO007, you seem very vague and do not understand what I'm telling you. So I cannot help you.
[06:12] <moDumass> is there some way to use nautilus as root?
[06:12] <MongooseWA> what's a torrent app that's very similar to utorrent?
[06:12] <vocx> !envy | XsteelWolf marx2k__
[06:12] <ubotu> XsteelWolf marx2k__: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:12] <XsteelWolf> usser: I got it off nvidia official site on the linux drivers page.
[06:13] <usser> XsteelWolf: did u delete after u installed it??
[06:13] <newb> still same lol~ it appear for awhile "starting deluge......." then disappear =/
[06:13] <ubuntuexp> marx2k__: thanks for the info. is opera available in the repos? I m planning to upgrade my RAM.
[06:13] <vocx> moDumass, "gksudo nautilus"  be careful.
[06:13] <XsteelWolf> nope
[06:13] <marx2k__> ubuntuexp: yep
[06:13] <moDumass> will do
[06:13] <moDumass> thanks
[06:13] <usser> XsteelWolf: so run it again
[06:13] <XsteelWolf> i installed everything correctly,but gui doesn't popup after reboot
[06:13] <XsteelWolf> i have to manually type startx
[06:13] <jahnkeanater> dose linux use something other than directx
[06:14] <kahrytan> newb, You need to delete the config files for deluge
[06:14] <usser> XsteelWolf: hm
[06:14] <Kazer0> jahnkeanater: OpenGL for one
[06:14] <marx2k__> steel:what error does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[06:14] <usser> XsteelWolf: yea
[06:14] <MongooseWA> what's a torrent app that's very similar to utorrent that's not ktorrent?
[06:14] <newb> o_O
[06:14] <newb> ok...i try
[06:14] <XsteelWolf> xconf error
[06:14] <pakora> i want to set my webcam up to record my car at night because some bastard vandalized my car
[06:14] <XsteelWolf> xserver config error
[06:14] <pakora> is tehre anyway to do it in ubuntu?
[06:14] <kahrytan> newb, ~user/.config/deluge
[06:14] <XsteelWolf> but i did everything as followed on ubuntu nvidia drivers wiki page.
[06:14] <Andex> MongooseWA: Azueres is one
[06:14] <marx2k__> Xsteel: look further into it.. it should give you more info
[06:14] <marx2k__> post it on pastebin
[06:14] <vocx> !torrent | MongooseWA
[06:14] <ubotu> MongooseWA: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:14] <jahnkeanater> i tryed to install it and it did nothing but the game still worked
[06:14] <marx2k__> !pastebin
[06:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:14] <XsteelWolf> i will
[06:14] <tarelerulz> mongooseWA ,  Deluge if good one when you get all the kinks worked out.  I hope your just works for you
[06:15] <XsteelWolf> have to reinstall in on my current laptop for now.
[06:15] <pakora> Hello, can somebody help me when they are free please
[06:15] <kahrytan> MongooseWA, Deluge is an excellent bittorent client
[06:15] <MongooseWA> i'll try it. thank you
[06:15] <zetheroo> !wow
[06:15] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:15] <marx2k__> *jealous* I got ati radeon mobile on all my laptops :(I
[06:15] <XsteelWolf> Thank you and brb..
[06:15] <MasterShrek> MongooseWA, transmission is good too, i use it
[06:15] <XsteelWolf> will install right now
[06:15] <vocx> !ask | pakora
[06:15] <ubotu> pakora: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:15] <zetheroo> nothing wrong with ATI
[06:15] <kahrytan> MongooseWA, Utorrent works under WINE nicely too.
[06:15] <pakora> I already asked my question
[06:15] <daylighter> what do I need to do to get networking started up from a text-only installation of xubuntu?
[06:16] <MongooseWA> oh really? hmm.. that's tempting
[06:16] <marx2k__> zetheroo: not anymore :) Well.. the newest open drivers dont work with the radeon mobile 9600;....
[06:16] <pakora> I have a sony video camera, its a webcam. Somebody vandalized my car. How do I set it up so that I can record my car at night
[06:16] <Kazer0> marx2k__: Whats wrong with that? I have it on mine too, is there something I should know? (Im installing ubuntu as we speak)
[06:16] <bruenig> daylighter, what are you looking at, just a standard ethernet?
[06:16] <marx2k__> so I cant get GL to work correctly, hence no compiz
[06:16] <psiko_> !tapioca
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tapioca - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <daylighter> bruenig, no, it's a wireless card, and it was working during setup.
[06:16] <vocx> pakora, oh right! ........... Use some camera. It needs to be recognized (drivers). If there are no drivers you are out of luck. Complain to Sony for not giving linux drivers.
[06:16] <Andex> marx2k__. dont be envious of nVidia! ATI just released all the specs for their drivers ;) Open source driver on the way :)
[06:16] <psiko_> !voip
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <marx2k__> Kazer0: eh, jus for the time being its harder to set up composting desktop than on nvidia systems,...
[06:16] <kahrytan> MongooseWA, I like uTorrent myself. and I use Deluge sometimes.
[06:16] <marx2k__> Andex: yeah Im impatiently waiting ;)
[06:17] <bruenig> daylighter, do iwconfig and see if it is there?
[06:17] <daylighter> hold on bruenig let me do that
[06:17] <kahrytan> Andex, I prefer mfg released drivers
[06:17] <tarelerulz> I have gotten deluge and I have nothing ,but problems with it most the time.   Most the time It would not keep setting on the torrents I would set
[06:17] <zetheroo> marx2k__ : opensource drivers should be out within a week
[06:17] <newb> er....where is the deluge config file....
[06:17] <zetheroo> marx2k__ : your not alone
[06:17] <marx2k__> zeth: within a week? really?
[06:17] <bruenig> newb, ~/.config/deluge
[06:17] <kahrytan> newb, ~user/.config/deluge
[06:17] <zetheroo> marx2k__ : yep
[06:17] <newb> the search function in ubuntu is so weird
[06:17] <marx2k__> Thats exciting
[06:18] <newb> ~user = my username?
[06:18] <bruenig> not ~user
[06:18] <kahrytan> newb, /home/username/.config/deluge
[06:18] <newb> okok thx
[06:18] <marx2k__> id love to see how compiz works on my 64mb radeon mobile :D
[06:18] <newb> wait
[06:18] <usser> zetheroo: are u kidding me no way they write them that fast
[06:19] <zetheroo> usser: you don't want them to?
[06:19] <Andex> They're working on it, right now around the world 10,000 nerds are locked in their parents bedroom eating hot pockets and cracking away at 700+ pages of ATI specs ;)
[06:19] <kahrytan> bruenig, It is clean when you show hidden files in home
[06:19] <zetheroo> usser : it was anounced on the 12 of Sept
[06:19] <kahrytan> ...not
[06:19] <usser> zetheroo: i want them i just doubt the speed, unless there 10 thousand code monkeys working on it
[06:19] <newb> delete the whole folder?
[06:19] <zetheroo> usser: I'll send you the link
[06:19] <psiko_> anyone knows tapioca ??
[06:19] <ckin2001> zetheroo, drivers are hard
[06:19] <usser> zetheroo: yea i heard about ati opening specs
[06:20] <marx2k__> Andex: From what I read though, they didnt open up the entire specs?
[06:20] <usser> zetheroo: still i think it takes more than 2 weeks to write a decent driver
[06:20] <Andex> Not all, the 3D specs are still coming..
[06:20] <marx2k__> ok
[06:20] <newb> yay...thx....it work
[06:20] <marx2k__> Maybe now my ATI Radeon All In Wonder will be put to some use
[06:21] <marx2k__> maybe now I can set up a decent linux media center box
[06:21] <kahrytan> I look forward when Conextant open their chip specs
[06:21] <psiko_> tem alguem ai que fala portugues?
[06:21] <vocx> usser, marx2k__ Andex kahrytan interesting, but let's keep it in #ubuntu-offtopic  glad they finally decided to do it.
[06:21] <vocx> !pt | psiko_
[06:21] <ubotu> psiko_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:21] <ubuntuexp> marx2k__: I m not able to find Opera in my repo list. from which repo it can be sourced?
[06:22] <marx2k__> good question
[06:22] <marx2k__> let me see
[06:22] <bruenig> ubuntuexp, you need to get it from opera itself
[06:22] <newb> erm.....it didnt work =/
[06:22] <Kazer0> ubuntuexp: www.opera.com
[06:22] <jahnkeanater> how do i make it show code instead of the ubuntu loding screen when it is booting up
[06:22] <psiko_> blz
[06:22] <Kazer0> ubuntuexp: It isnt open source
[06:22] <newb> only ask me to reconfigure after that disappear again =/
[06:22] <tifine_> hello everybody
[06:22] <bruenig> jahnkeanater, sudo sed -e 's/quiet//g' -e 's/splash//g' /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:23] <Grungebunny> bruenig how do you remember all those crazy command lines?
[06:23] <vocx> jahnkeanater, remove the splash and quiet from the lines... bruenig what a hack!
[06:23] <ubuntuexp> then i have to download it and install it separately ?
[06:23] <jahnkeanater> how do i make it go back after that
[06:23] <vocx> !opera | ubuntuexp
[06:23] <ubotu> ubuntuexp: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:23] <ckin2001> jahnkeanater, switch the quiet and splash back
[06:23] <bruenig> Grungebunny, you don't memorize stuff like that, I know how to remove a word from a text file using sed, I know quiet and splash need to be removed and the command comes from there
[06:24] <newb> still can get deluge to work=/
[06:24] <marx2k__> I do see opera in the commercial apps in the distros
[06:24] <marx2k__> check there
[06:24] <newb> can't
[06:24] <ubuntuexp> Ok i will check it out
[06:24] <jahnkeanater> so sudo sed /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:24] <marx2k__> but yeah,opera is a very lightweight browser with very good functionality
[06:25] <bruenig> jahnkeanater, you either need to use that whole command or use a text editor and delete them yourself
[06:25] <bruenig> opera is actually heavier than firefox but renders faster
[06:26] <marx2k__> heavier even concerning the memory footprint??
[06:26] <vocx> jahnkeanater, you may, for one session, edit the lines when the grub menu appears upon start up.
[06:26] <bruenig> it is bigger
[06:26] <marx2k__> interesting. didnt know that
[06:26] <bruenig> firefox is prone to getting out of control at times, but in normal usage I believe it is supposed to be lighter
[06:26] <zetheroo> ATI Opensource drivers with the next week: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/12/1747202&from=rss
[06:26] <zetheroo> ???
[06:26] <bruenig> but again, it doesn't feel lighter because it doesn't render as fast
[06:27] <marx2k__> I hope theyre working on that
[06:27] <marx2k__> (firefox)
[06:27] <vocx> zetheroo, thank you, but keep the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:27] <marx2k__> I love konqueror but it can be buggy with it's jscript
[06:27] <zetheroo> vocx: ppl here were asking about it!
[06:28] <ubuntuexp> I got opera in Add/Remove but hte popularity rating i very low for it. I have other choices like Epiphany, Galeon browsers also. Pls suggest.
[06:29] <marx2k__> try opera
[06:29] <HLM> i would like ubuntu better if opera was the default browser
[06:29] <Andex> i suggest lynx
[06:29] <marx2k__> hahaha lynx
[06:29] <Xenguy> HLM: for gawd sake it is not free as in freedom
[06:29] <swarm> try IE inside WINE. haha :)
[06:29] <marx2k__> welcome to 1993 ;)
[06:29] <zetheroo> whats wrong with Firefox?
[06:29] <jahnkeanater> how do i view the code that linux is running all the time
[06:29] <marx2k__> zeth, slow, large
[06:29] <zetheroo> swarm: IE????? OMG!!!
[06:29] <vocx> Opera is not Open source. It will never be the default browser unless it is open source. That's the philosophy behind Debian and Ubuntu.
[06:29] <jpastore> anyone have any luck setting up a pptp connection?
[06:30] <ubuntuexp> zetheroo: firefox consumes lot of RAM in my case. Thats the reason
[06:30] <marx2k__> ie4linux is available, but unless youre testing html against it, its pointless
[06:30] <zetheroo> ubuntuexp: How much RAM do you posses?
[06:30] <swarm> marx2k__, btw, thanks. i resized it using the gparted boot disk
[06:30] <newb> this deluge client is weird.....it wont allow me to change port =/ if i do deluge wont work - -"
[06:30] <tifine_> I want to change the port on my router webserver ? does any body have any suggestions
[06:30] <jahnkeanater> lol 320 Mb : (
[06:30] <jpastore> !pptp
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <marx2k__> yeah firefox is taking 155M resident right now
[06:31] <vocx> jahnkeanater, you cannot view the code unless you can wire yourself to the processor and figure all that electricity and bits and bytes.
[06:31] <ubuntuexp> zetheroo: only 256 MB and that too with lot of errors on it.
[06:31] <Polygon89> hello, to install gnome and all its dependencies on like xubuntu, its 'sudo aptitude gnome-desktop' correct?
[06:31] <marx2k__> swarm: ah glad it worked (and didnt take 50 years)
[06:31] <zetheroo> ubuntuexp: there is a known memory leak in Firefox, but there are fixes....
[06:31] <vocx> !desktop | Polygon89
[06:31] <ubotu> Polygon89: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[06:31] <swarm> marx2k__, yeah, it did take a while :P
[06:31] <bruenig> yeah there is a leak
[06:31] <Polygon89> vocx, wow that did not answer my question.
[06:32] <jpastore> !network-manager-pptp
[06:32] <ubuntuexp> zetheroo: can you help me with those fixes?
[06:32] <jahnkeanater> i dont want all of it just if a copy a file it sas something
[06:32] <zetheroo> ubuntuexp: Oh My!!! 256 MB of RAM? That is VERY little ..... do you at least have dedicated graphics?
[06:32] <Kazer0> Damn, my ubuntu install froze at 85%. Any ideas?
[06:32] <Polygon89> vocx, please dont have ubotu spit random things at me. thanks.
[06:32] <spdr> m
[06:32] <marx2k__> Kazer: What did it stall at
[06:32] <ubuntuexp> My system spec. is Intel *65GBF, 2.4GHz HT, 256MB RAM
[06:32] <Kazer0> marx2k__: brltty-x11
[06:32] <vocx> Polygon89, I thought that was what you were asking.         There are a bunch of other -core packages like gnome-core, maybe one of those.
[06:32] <mike01> time for an upgrade
[06:32] <bruenig> !info gnome | Polygon89
[06:32] <mike01> lol
[06:32] <ubotu> polygon89: gnome: The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.3.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 44 kB
[06:33] <marx2k__> Kazer: possibly disc read error?
[06:33] <Kazer0> marx2k__: Brand new disc
[06:33] <marx2k__> Thats weird
[06:33] <marx2k__> try again?
[06:33] <marx2k__> maybe its waiting for input or something?
[06:33] <ckin2001> Kazer0, md5?
[06:33] <marx2k__> though isnt brltty "braille TTY"?
[06:35] <tifine_> Hi,  I want to change the default port of my router webserver does anybody have an idea?
[06:35] <Kazer0> Man, it installed for like an hour, now it has to start over
[06:35] <ckin2001> tifine_, use 81
[06:36] <marx2k__> Kazer: it just stalled copying the file??
[06:36] <usser> tifine_: does your router have a webserver??
[06:36] <tifine_> usser :  yes
[06:36] <tifine_> usser: i dont know how to change the port 80 in the router webserver
[06:36] <newb> kazer0 did u have linux swap on before u install?
[06:36] <zetheroo> ubuntuexp: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1327586/posts
[06:37] <usser> tifine_: oh, which make model is that, theres gotta be documentation online
[06:37] <Kazer0> newb: Installed brand new partition it made itself
[06:37] <Kazer0> marx2k__: Stalled on "installing software"
[06:37] <tifine_> usser:  HUAWEI  HG510
[06:37] <marx2k__> tifine: Thats really more to do with your router,less with ubuntu
[06:37] <usser> ckin2001: some providers block 80 port
[06:37] <marx2k__> Kazer: Bizarre... can you hit cancel?
[06:37] <unsober> yeah, alot of ISPs block port 80
[06:37] <marx2k__> usser: yep, mine does :(
[06:37] <marx2k__> GRR
[06:37] <unsober> for incoming traffic
[06:37] <newb> i know that i mount the swap before i install
[06:38] <newb> i learn it the hard way
[06:38] <newb> took me whole day to figure it out
[06:38] <ckin2001> so why would you change it on your ROUTER?
[06:38] <Invisionfree> How would I CHMOD /var/www?
[06:38] <Kazer0> marx2k__: I couldnt at the time, I just reset the laptop and am starting over
[06:38] <Dr_willis> why would you chmod /var/www?
[06:38] <Invisionfree> SO I can save to it...
[06:38] <Dr_willis> sudo chmod <whatever> /var/www
[06:38] <marx2k__> Kazer: Hope it works better this time, otherwise I would try the alternate install CD
[06:39] <Dr_willis> but you are sort of defeating a lot of security stuff that way
[06:39] <danfg> how do i tell tar to include hidden files (files starting with a .)?
[06:39] <tifine_> ckin2001:  becooz when i try to type my domain name instead of opening proper page, its just open the router default page
[06:39] <Dr_willis> theres proberly some better way to allow a user to access it. (groups perhaps?)
[06:39] <ckin2001> tifine_, forward the port through the router to the web server
[06:39] <Daverocks> Invisionfree: what are its current permissions?
[06:39] <tifine_> ckin2001:  did that still not working
[06:39] <Kazer0> marx2k__: this IS the alternate CD
[06:40] <Kazer0> marx2k__: Normal CD fails to load X
[06:40] <ckin2001> tifine_, the router have remote administration?
[06:40] <newb> lol
[06:40] <marx2k__> oh crap
[06:40] <newb> fail to load as in very slow?
[06:40] <marx2k__> thats rough
[06:40] <marx2k__> what kind of system is it again?
[06:40] <Fluffy-Wuffy_> to anyone who was here earlier my computer is no longer locking up, and all i did was remove my unnused modem /fax card :P
[06:40] <Kazer0> newb: No, as in X crashes with no video mode supported
[06:40] <Kazer0> marx2k__: E1505 Dell Laptop with Mobility X1300
[06:41] <marx2k__> have you player in your BIOS to see if its anything in there?
[06:41] <tifine_> ckin2001: remote administration ?
[06:41] <marx2k__> My next suggestion would be another distro...
[06:41] <Daverocks> Kazer0: heh, i feel your pain
[06:41] <Kazer0> I have OpenSUSE, but beryl didnt want to run on it so I got mad at it
[06:41] <tifine_> ckin2001: just using the simple administration rites
[06:41] <ckin2001> tifine_, its a setting on some routers
[06:41] <Kazer0> I also had 6.06 and 6.10 running on it before
[06:41] <marx2k__> Kazer:have you lookedinto PCLinuxOS?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> I will say that for the laptops ive used it on.. Kubuntu/Ubuntu has been the BEST disrto out of the 5 or so ive tried.
[06:42] <ckin2001> tifine_, most routers wont let you hit their webserver from outside the LAN without that setting turned on
[06:42] <Daverocks> Kazer0: i was working before on a laptop with an x1800, ubuntu's X just wouldn't start, even after changing driver to vesa
[06:42] <tifine_> ckin: okie
[06:42] <Kazer0> Daverocks: Sucks. I did get it to work for 6.06 and 6.10 though
[06:42] <Tumpster> anyone here running cedega?
[06:42] <Daverocks> Kazer0: yeah, i only tried feisty
[06:43] <vocx> Kazer0, that's important. You should head to launchpad or search regression bugs for your hardware in the forums. Maybe there is still time to get it fixed for Gutsy.
[06:43] <zetheroo> Kazer0 : what graphics card do you have?
[06:43] <Kazer0> zetheroo: X1300 Mobile
[06:43] <marx2k__> are they still planning to have compiz on by default for gutsy??
[06:43] <Tumpster> anyone here willing to help a geek out learn some troubles with cedega?
[06:43] <spdr> anyone got an idea why the hell cant i get a smaller resolution on my box?
[06:44] <marx2k__> spdr: smaller as in higher?
[06:44] <usser> marx2k__: yep
[06:44] <spdr> as in bigger
[06:44] <marx2k__> usser: bad move
[06:44] <alecwh> How do I list users that are connnected to my hamachi network?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> spdr,  you mean 'lower' rex? or higher res?
[06:44] <zetheroo> Kazer0: the X1*00 range of ATI cards are not supported by the opensource drivers --- yet --- VERY soon though...
[06:44] <spdr> i want to make things look smalls :S
[06:44] <Dr_willis> some times i have to edit my xorg.conf to set the proper res.
[06:44] <tifine_> ckin2001 : this is the one i m using it http://www.huawei.com/products/terminal/products/view.do?id=89
[06:44] <Dr_willis> spdr,  so you want a 'higher' resolution.
[06:44] <spdr> so i guess its higher? :\
[06:44] <marx2k__> spdr: what vidcard/drivers are you using?
[06:44] <spdr> ahh
[06:44] <spdr> os[Linux 2.6.20-16-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[8 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.66GHz @ 1.99GHz]  mem[Physical : 2021MB, 91.8% free]  disk[Total : 72.37GB, 60.30% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS]  sound[] 
[06:44] <Kazer0> zetheroo: I am aware of that, however I have no problem using the propetary driver as I did before
[06:45] <alecwh> How do you start the trash can as a root user (sudo)?
[06:45] <spdr> nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS
[06:45] <zetheroo> Kazer0: So if you want beryl to run you have to work it with XGL and create a seperate session for Gnome with XGL
[06:45] <bruenig> alecwh, the trash can is just a directory
[06:45] <Dr_willis> for my widescreen machines i often have to manually set the proper res in the xorgt.conf
[06:45] <marx2k__> have you run nvidia-settings
[06:45] <marx2k__> ?
[06:45] <bruenig> alecwh, ~/.Trash
[06:45] <Fluffy-Wuffy> how do i disable the Recent Documents List in Ubuntu (7.04)?
[06:45] <spdr> yeah, getting some errors though
[06:46] <marx2k__> what errors
[06:46] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, excellent question, I never figured out a way, but you can delete ~/.recently-used
[06:46] <zetheroo> Kazer0: yes the propritary driver will work.... but not with beryl or compiz-fusion ... unless you work together with XGL... at least that is where I have come to...... i have the X1400
[06:46] <spdr> sec
[06:46] <spdr> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[06:46] <spdr> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[06:46] <spdr> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'.
[06:46] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i can clear it from the Places menu, i just wish their was a way to disable it
[06:46] <marx2k__> heh that could be a problem
[06:46] <Fluffy-Wuffy> its wayyyy too windows like
[06:47] <alecwh> bruenig: I got this message: sudo: /home/alecwh/.Trash: command not found
[06:47] <spdr> :\
[06:47] <Fluffy-Wuffy> there*
[06:47] <Tumpster> anyone running cedega?
[06:47] <bruenig> alecwh, it's a directory, what are you wanting to do
[06:47] <tifine_> ckin2001:  ?
[06:47] <sandy> can anyone tell me best cd writing package
[06:47] <bruenig> alecwh, if you want to clear stuff from it, then just rm the files in it
[06:47] <marx2k__> spdr: tell me what info this gives you: "lspci |  grep nvidia"
[06:47] <vocx> alecwh, the trash is not a program it is a directory in your home folder.
[06:47] <alecwh> oh
[06:47] <alecwh> ok
[06:47] <alecwh> so
[06:47] <Kazer0> zetheroo: Ive had beryl running on this laptop with an X1300 before...
[06:47] <alecwh> how do I empty the trash can?
[06:47] <Grungebunny> sandy k3b works pretty well
[06:47] <alecwh> with root
[06:47] <spdr> marx2k__, none :|
[06:47] <ckin2001> tifine_, whats domain name for web server?
[06:47] <Xenguy> !enter
[06:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:47] <bruenig> alecwh, sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[06:47] <unsober> alec, right click, then empty trash
[06:48] <marx2k__> spdr: then you be needing to install some decent nvidia drivers :)
[06:48] <sandy> thank you
[06:48] <bruenig> uh oh the wine is an emulator guy is back
[06:48] <alecwh> brueig: you're a life saver. Thanks. :D
[06:48] <marx2k__> how about "lspci  | grep vga"
[06:48] <zetheroo> Kazer0: Thats cool...... can you tell me how you had it running?
[06:48] <tifine_> unico-tech.com
[06:48] <spdr> oh, okay....last time is was okay 'out-of-the-box' :\
[06:48] <tifine_> ckin2001: unico-tech.com
[06:48] <spdr> amm
[06:48] <spdr> none heh
[06:49] <marx2k__> thats odd
[06:49] <spdr> that cant be good ;S
[06:49] <Kazer0> zetheroo: Im a noob, but I used a guild I found at the time, so I couldnt explain it exactly
[06:49] <marx2k__> that last one should definitely have come up with something
[06:49] <zetheroo> Kazer0: do you remember having a seperate session for XGL?
[06:49] <bruenig> marx2k__, I have nvidia installed and neither of those things show up on mine
[06:50] <marx2k__> wtf!
[06:50] <spdr> :O
[06:50] <ckin2001> tifine_, nothing loads at all at that IP
[06:50] <marx2k__> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 XT]  (rev a1)
[06:50] <Tumpster> anyone willing to help here?
[06:50] <Kazer0> zetheroo: I think so
[06:50] <Apollocre> Is there a way to launch a wifi network manager from the terminal?
[06:50] <bruenig> marx2k__, oh you need to do grep -i nvidia
[06:50] <spdr> hmmm
[06:50] <bruenig> marx2k__, or grep -i vga
[06:51] <marx2k__> oh its case sensitive
[06:51] <marx2k__> :D
[06:51] <tifine_> ckin2001: oh man its open the router default page let me  double check
[06:51] <spdr> ohhhh
[06:51] <zetheroo> Kazer0: yeah.... thats the pain...... soon it will be smooth as...
[06:51] <spdr> spdr@xeon:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[06:51] <spdr> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (rev a1)
[06:51] <spdr> spdr@xeon:~$ lspci | grep -i nvidia
[06:51] <spdr> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GS (rev a1)
[06:52] <unsober> is there a way to see how much free/used space i have on my drive, in MB, in Ubuntu? System Monitor only shows GB.. and it's rounded off, it's not very accurate
[06:52] <spdr> seems to be okay then...and makes much more sense
[06:52] <Traveler_> help newbie here.  How do i install dialup onto ubuntu?
[06:52] <bruenig> unsober, df -h
[06:52] <marx2k__> Hm then I dont know what nvidia-settings isnt seeing that
[06:52] <Dr_willis> unsober,  i use   df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs
[06:52] <unsober> ok thank you
[06:53] <bruenig> wine is not an emulator though
[06:53] <marx2k__> what do you see when you type 'glxinfo'?
[06:53] <jvalencia> hi every one
[06:53] <spdr> marx2k__, alot
[06:53] <lilie_> hi
[06:53] <jvalencia> one question
[06:53] <marx2k__> spdr: look at the first few lines
[06:53] <ckin2001> unsober, df -B m (directory)
[06:54] <unsober> thank you
[06:54] <jvalencia> does anyone know how to install a Chicony 2.0 USB webcam in ubuntu
[06:54] <jvalencia> i have checked all threads related to it in ubuntu's site
[06:54] <jvalencia> and didn't work
[06:54] <tifine_> ckin2001: yes you r rite its stop loading even the router default page now
[06:55] <vocx> jvalencia, if there are no drivers for it, it won't work no matter what you try. Complain to the hardware manufacturers for not making Linux drivers.
[06:56] <Fluffy-Wuffy> gotta love onboard chipset for a video card, rotating my workspace cube (desktop effect) looks like &$#@!
[06:56] <jvalencia> je je je ok
[06:56] <jvalencia> thank you
[06:56] <vocx> Fluffy-Wuffy, which chipset?
[06:56] <Andex> Yes but does it have any practicality to it
[06:56] <unsober> install the graphic drivers on Wine? :D
[06:56] <Andex> lol
[06:56] <Fluffy-Wuffy> whatever chipset my computer has
[06:56] <tifine_> ckin: do you have home webserver?
[06:57] <bruenig> if wine was an emulator that might work but wine is not an emulator
[06:57] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i havent bought a fancy graphics driver or whatever yet
[06:57] <tifine_> ckin: for webhosting
[06:57] <alecwh> Hello! Is there a way to remove the ubuntu splash screen (after logging in)?
[06:57] <Fluffy-Wuffy> video card or whatever
[06:57] <Fluffy-Wuffy> who knows
[06:57] <Fluffy-Wuffy> im so tired
[06:57] <tifine_> ckin2001: do you have home webserver for webhosting ?
[06:58] <kurumin> helo
[06:58] <craazy> if i insallted edubuntu through apt-get, would i be able to choose it or would it auto login?
[06:58] <craazy> like choosing KDE or Gnome?
[06:58] <kurumin> vai se fude
[06:59] <bruenig> craazy, edubuntu is just a bunch of apps
[06:59] <bruenig> it is not a DE
[06:59] <kurumin> sua mae e uma vadia
[06:59] <guillermo_> hi
[06:59] <Tumpster> anyone here have cedega?
[06:59] <craazy> ohh, what DE does the edubuntu CD use?
[06:59] <bruenig> gnome
[06:59] <craazy> thanks
[06:59] <guillermo_> anyone know spanish chat?
[06:59] <kurumin> cade a muiesada
[06:59] <bruenig> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:00] <guillermo_> gracias
[07:02] <bruenig> phew, all problems solved, let's close it down
[07:02] <vocx> Time has stopped I guess.
[07:02] <jvalencia> me guillermo
[07:03] <bruenig> jvalencia, he wanted to know the spanish channel, not who knew spanish
[07:03] <un_dave> best gui based app for all my archiving needs? needs to support rar
[07:03] <bruenig> hmm, best gui? contradiction?
[07:03] <unsober> winrar?
[07:03] <jvalencia> ohh
[07:03] <Dr_willis> winrar  can work with wine. - it has for me in the past. :)
[07:03] <jvalencia> yeap you're right
[07:03] <jvalencia> my bad
[07:04] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i love these bouncy menus that desktop effects produces
[07:04] <Dr_willis> some times it was a little flakey however
[07:04] <bruenig> winrar runs in Wine Is Not an Emulator?
[07:04] <un_dave> heh, i just want something to handle everything
[07:04] <Kazer0> ffs, ubuntu install froze at the same place again
[07:04] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  ive used wine to run winrar.exe in the past.
[07:04] <bruenig> un_dave, file-roller should be fine, you have to install libraries though, like unrar
[07:04] <Kazer0> I wish I know where my 6.06 CD was
[07:04] <bruenig> unrar is not a library, but yeah you get what I mean
[07:04] <danfg> how do i tell tar to include hidden files when creating an archive (files starting with a .)?
[07:05] <un_dave> how do i make file roller work with rar ? just install the rar packages?
[07:05] <bruenig> unsober, did you hear that, winrar runs in Wine Is not an Emulator
[07:05] <Dr_willis> un_dave,  yep. but some times rar might confuse it.
[07:05] <Dr_willis> ive have used 'mc' to extract rar files also. (its calling unrar in the backgroudn i think)
[07:05] <Fluffy-Wuffy> what the heck just happened to me
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[07:05] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:06] <bruenig> isn't there something called unball
[07:06] <snatch_raptor> my ubuntu cd freezes during startup. is this a common problem?
[07:06] <bruenig> or maybe I am thinking of unp
[07:06] <un_dave> ok, installing unrar, the non-free one
[07:07] <bruenig> I'm sure it is just a script, probably pretty straight foward
[07:07] <un_dave> file roller works now :)
[07:07] <un_dave> cheers
[07:07] <vocx> bruenig, why are you obsessed with Wine today?
[07:07] <Paul1333> dan, just skimmed the man page for GNU tar, not sure
[07:07] <Paul1333> googleing it now
[07:08] <bruenig> vocx, unsober pulled a dug on us the other day and was really adamant that wine was in fact an emulator
[07:08] <ferronica> how to creat second user account in ubuntu Fiesty fawn GNOME, i am administrator and i dont wanna him to access home folder.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Compared to my other emulators i collect.. wine is not an emulator. :)
[07:09] <FunnyLookinHat> ferronica, SYSTEM - Administration - Users & Groups
[07:09] <Dr_willis> but we dont want to start that argument again.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:09] <bruenig> united arab emirates?
[07:09] <marx2k__> stupid...emulator...not...going...fullscreen....stupid....
[07:09] <marx2k__> UAE - Amiga emulator
[07:10] <vocx> bruenig, watch it, you are going to start an international conflict here!
[07:10] <usser> marx2k__: did u have sega genesis as a kid?
[07:10] <marx2k__> yeah
[07:10] <marx2k__> I had pretty much everything since the Commodore 64
[07:11] <usser> marx2k__: heh that was awesome, linux has dgen i still like to play comix zone
[07:11] <usser> marx2k__: dgen being a genesis emulator
[07:11] <marx2k__> yeah I use that on my XBox :)
[07:12] <WaltzingAlong> what does wine emulate?
[07:12] <marx2k__> nothing:)
[07:12] <Xenguy> !wine
[07:12] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:12] <WaltzingAlong> can an emulator emulate nothing?
[07:12] <usser> WaltzingAlong: wine stands for wine is not emulator
[07:13] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  seen that also. :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> used to be a contest to see how deeply one could nest emulators.
[07:13] <WaltzingAlong> are there arguments asserting wine is an emulator?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  the guys that wrote it say so. :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> plus it dosent emulate hardware.
[07:14] <WaltzingAlong> the guys who wrote wine claim wine is an emulator?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> which every other emulator ive seen does it.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  they named it "Wine - which stands for  "wine is not an emulator""
[07:14] <ferronica> FunnyLookinHat: after that,  ADD USER ?
[07:14] <unsober> definition of Emulate: to imitate something
[07:14] <unsober> wine imitates windows, to some degree
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Standard GNU Humor in the  Letters/terms the letters stands for,
[07:14] <unsober> so it is, no matter what anyone else says
[07:14] <WaltzingAlong> so kde is an emulator?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> unsober,  thats not my definition of an emulator.
[07:15] <FunnyLookinHat> ferronica, uh, yes.
[07:15] <preaction> no, wine allows windows programs to run. it's another implementation of windows APIs
[07:15] <WaltzingAlong> since it imitates the experience one expects from desktop computing?
[07:15] <unsober> Dr_Willis, websters dictionary disagrees with you
[07:15] <chill_> hey
[07:15] <chill_> what about crossover, does it use wine?
[07:15] <preaction> chill_, crossover IS wine. same with cedega
[07:15] <usser> WaltzingAlong: to some extent yes, but that kind of dangerous thinking will get u in trouble mark my words, trouble ya hear
[07:16] <Dr_willis> unsober,  and i care about that because?
[07:16] <chill_> oh
[07:16] <chill_> and why do they charge for it then
[07:16] <Dr_willis> unsober,  a book written befor PC's were invented. :)
[07:16] <WaltzingAlong> usser: trouble thinking that any desktop environment is really an emulator of ms windows? even ms windows xp is then an emulator of ms windows 2000?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> see.. i told ya we diodent want to get this argument started again........
[07:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:16] <ferronica> FunnyLookinHat: after that dose he able to browse my home folder ?
[07:16] <Dr_willis> if the 2 terms are identical . why have the 2 terms.
[07:17] <preaction> chill_, read wine's FAQ. there's a whole section about what wine is compared to crossover and/or cedega
[07:17] <usser> WaltzingAlong: see!! thats exactly what i was talking about, trouble ))
[07:17] <chill_> k will do
[07:17] <FunnyLookinHat> ferronica, nope.  the new user account can only browse their own home folder.
[07:17] <chill_> im curious enough
[07:17] <chill_> thx
[07:17] <ferronica> FunnyLookinHat: okay
[07:18] <amazingjxq> hi
[07:18] <amazingjxq> i am new to this
[07:18] <WaltzingAlong> usser: and even windows firstone was really an emulator of the architype 'desktop experience'?
[07:18] <vocx> Okay Europeans, you take it from here. We are gonna rest.
[07:18] <usser> WaltzingAlong: technically i think that the first gui was amigas workbench not even mac and sure as hell not windows
[07:19] <usser> WaltzingAlong: yea, exactly
[07:19] <unsober> the first desktop was.. etch a sketch
[07:19] <WaltzingAlong> usser: well i guess i would expect that a science (computer science) would have an objective definition of an emulator
[07:19] <Dr_willis> 'reed on wet clay' = first desktop. :)
[07:20] <mnereson> Hi. I just installed ubuntu lamp server. I have no network connectivity. Where can I start debugging this?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Computer guys (and other techies) often have slightly different difinitions of things. :)
[07:20] <Dr_willis> then the rest of the world.
[07:20] <Seraph34> !tvout
[07:20] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[07:20] <unsober> which is why the arguement of wine happens willis
[07:21] <usser> mnereson: make sure network cable is plugged in ))
[07:21] <Dr_willis> People cant even agree on how many KB are in a MB. :)
[07:21] <jimmygoon> If i have something x forwarded to another screen, can I "move" it?
[07:21] <usser> Dr_willis: 1024
[07:21] <preaction> Dr_willis, 1000
[07:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:22] <mnereson> usser: sic dude
[07:22] <mnereson> I have no idea how that cable came out
[07:22] <usser> mnereson: ahahaha good call ))
[07:22] <Dr_willis> jimmacdonald,  forwareded with xdmcp?
[07:22] <BernieMac> usser is wrong!! haha
[07:22] <Dr_willis> jimmacdonald,  or ssh?
[07:22] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: ok so the rest of the world wine is an emulator because well it lets windows programs work on nonwindows so wine must be emulating an ms windows machine? but the compsci people consider emulation only hardware based?
[07:22] <mnereson> I was just on that box an hour ago and it was fine. I reinstalled ubuntu and SOMEHOW it came out
[07:22] <unsober> waltzing, I guess that's how it works, yeah
[07:22] <lightcap_> I'm sure it'sa simple question but I can't figure it out how do you make something run on start up?
[07:23] <usser> mnereson: oh oh ghost in the machine got outside
[07:23] <preaction> !startup | lightcap_
[07:23] <ubotu> lightcap_: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[07:23] <WaltzingAlong> lightcap_: start up of your computer or of your gui session?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  hardware emulation is the core of the definition of 'emulation' i do belive. :)     software emulation of otehr sortware would be Imitation I guess? :)
[07:23] <chill_> pretty interesting read
[07:23] <Dr_willis> emulate has always ment software implemetion of hardware  - i guess is what the CS guys think.
[07:23] <usser> Dr_willis: theres no division on hardware software anymore
[07:24] <lightcap_> yup it was that easy thanks a bunch
[07:24] <usser> Dr_willis: everything that can be done in hardware can also be done in soft and vice versa
[07:24] <Dr_willis> usser,  hard to make code that gives me a hard copy. :)
[07:24] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: so why would one need to qualify it with another word, ie 'hardware emulation'?
[07:24] <jimmygoon> anyone, If i have something x forwarded to another screen, can I "move" it?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  how does imitate differ from emulate then.. :) theres a reason for the 2 words I guess.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> WaltzingAlong,  go ask in #wine :)
[07:25] <usser> Dr_willis: why not hard at all, just burn the program on cd theres your hard copy
[07:25] <IcemanV9> is there a way to use 'du' to determine the size of directory only??
[07:25] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: i agree that wine is not a hardware emulator
[07:25] <Dr_willis> usser,  how about Daemontools to emulate the cd. :)
[07:25] <Dr_willis> or is that imitating a cd?
[07:26] <tanubis> !help
[07:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:26] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:26] <Fluffy-Wuffy> anyone know anything about gDesklets?
[07:26] <Fluffy-Wuffy> Desktop Gadgets?
[07:26] <tanubis> !mount
[07:26] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Fluffy-Wuffy,  they seem to suck? :)
[07:26] <usser> Dr_willis: Daemontools=CD drive, as iso=cd-rom
[07:26] <Seraph34> !su
[07:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:27] <Seraph34> !passwd
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about passwd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Seraph34> !password
[07:27] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[07:27] <BernieMac> !root
[07:27] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !bot
[07:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !abuse
[07:27] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:27] <BernieMac> I know that, just love the message...
[07:27] <IcemanV9> Fluffy-Wuffy: try screenlets
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !botsnack
[07:27] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:27] <Xenguy> heh
[07:28] <Dr_willis> night all.. time to play some Wavy Navy on my C64 emulator. :)
[07:28] <IcemanV9> BernieMac: use /msg ubotu <whatever>
[07:28] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i like gDesklets i just want to know if they will appear next time i start up...
[07:28] <usser> Dr_willis: see ya
[07:28] <Fluffy-Wuffy> the program seems to have no options
[07:29] <skellums> hi
[07:29] <BernieMac> ok, thanks IcemanV9
[07:30] <IcemanV9> Fluffy-Wuffy: put it in system > pref > sessions
[07:30] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i want the desklets to appear though and not the program
[07:30] <skellums>    ?
[07:30] <alecwh> Is there a way to disable the splash screen AFTER logging in (the orange logo sort of thing)?
[07:30] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i just want to know if it remembers what i do
[07:30] <IcemanV9> !kr
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <IcemanV9> !ko
[07:30] <ubotu> For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[07:31] <Fluffy-Wuffy> where do i find "Screenlets"?
[07:32] <Fluffy-Wuffy> IcemanV9
[07:32] <warp0x00> how do i install feisty on a md or lvm
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> warp0x00: with the !alternate CD
[07:33] <Polygon89> OK, i think i have totally borked my xubuntu installation. I was trying to run synaptic and was finding it didnt work, even from the terminal (entering the command from the terminal just went to the next line and didnt do anything), i tried to run gksudo synaptic, it said i didnt have permission to run this file as sudo, so i restarted now its telling me that the gdm group 'gdm' does not exist. how do i fix this?
[07:33] <IcemanV9> Fluffy-Wuffy: i don't think it's in repo; check howto in ubuntu forums
[07:33] <warp0x00> tonyyarusso, oh
[07:33] <Fluffy-Wuffy> whats not in repo? and what is repo?
[07:34] <Fluffy-Wuffy> screenlets isnt in Add/ Remove programs or the Synaptic Package Manager
 where do i find "Screenlets"?
[07:35] <Mika1> evening guys
[07:35] <WaltzingAlong> morning Mika1
[07:35] <Mika1> so i'm running into an (apparently known) issue with audio quality on fiesty fawn
[07:35] <Krypton> How can I temporarily remap my keys? I want to change my arrow keys to a s k and l to use while playing FlashFlashRevolution.
[07:35] <Mika1> it's only on mp3's and video files that i've noticed, and i think flash is having an issue as well
[07:36] <Mika1> but the quality sounds like the speakers are blown
[07:36] <Mika1> i've read that changing the output mode to OSS or ALSA should fix it
[07:36] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: and turning pcm or master down a touch has not worked?
[07:36] <Mika1> where do i change that setting?
[07:36] <Fluffy-Wuffy> http://screenlets.org/index.php/Download but its a .tar.bz2, i dont know how to compile
[07:36] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: just the mixer
[07:37] <Fluffy-Wuffy> why cant anyone make anything a package?
[07:37] <WaltzingAlong> Fluffy-Wuffy: figure out how then you would be the one fulfilling your request
[07:37] <Mika1> waltzing: makes sense lemmie try
[07:38] <Mika1> moving PCM down to the bottom improves it slightly, but it's still pretty bad
[07:38] <Mika1> also the right channel seems to be intermitent
[07:39] <Mika1> which is just odd
[07:39] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: ok i was thinking to have none of them maxed; ok so it may be something else then
[07:39] <Mika1> ok
[07:39] <Mika1> waltz: it happens... any other suggestions?
[07:40] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: changing output mode from oss to alsa like suggested?
[07:40] <Mika1> that's done in the program right? XMMS in this case, under preferences?
[07:41] <Mika1> or is there somewhere else i should be making the change?
[07:41] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: yeah each program may have it or for your desktop environment in general for its sounds
[07:42] <WaltzingAlong> Mika1: tis all i have for now
[07:42] <Mika1> hmmm thanks
[07:43] <Krypton> So can anyone help me with remapping my keys?
[07:44] <asc> If I 'cp /dev/device1 /dev/device2' and the devices are identical disks, will it mirror everything (including boot sector and partition table)? If not, how can I do this with dd?
[07:45] <Fluffy-Wuffy> dont suppose you know the password for screenlets eh IcemanV9
[07:45] <lastexile> hi, I've just installed ubuntu 7.04 and it gives me problems when unmounting an external hard disk unit. Anyone got a clue
[07:45] <gvsa123> when you become a victim of a phishing scam, does it penetrate into well, first is firefox of course, and then your actual ubuntu install?
[07:45] <Fluffy-Wuffy> since i cant sudo apt-get install it without this infamous password
[07:46] <lastexile> hi, I've just installed ubuntu 7.04 and it gives me problems when unmounting an external hard disk unit. Anyone got a clue - it didn't do anything funny in ubuntu 6.10...
[07:46] <Fluffy-Wuffy> phishing usually only involves sites pretending to be other sites to get you to give them valuable data gvsa123
[07:47] <jimmygoon> gvsa123, phising != virus
[07:47] <IcemanV9> Fluffy-Wuffy: no i don't ... it should not ask for password to download ... must be phishing site
[07:48] <Fluffy-Wuffy> grrr
[07:48] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i already downloaded it i just cant install it without a password, or update the list its talking about
[07:49] <Fluffy-Wuffy> where is the darn official version located?
[07:49] <tico> hello
[07:50] <gvsa123> Fluffy-Wuffy: so only your revealed account details are compromised? no saving of anything in FF that could cause harm to your ubuntu... it's just the website?
[07:50] <lastexile> Can anyone offer any sort of idea of why external harddisk cause problems in ubuntu 7.04?????
[07:50] <lastexile> please
[07:50] <lastexile> ?
[07:50] <tico> hello every body
[07:50] <Blind32> hello
[07:50] <lastexile> hi
[07:50] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i dont know gvsa123, just check for SSL in websites and learn how to look at URL bars
[07:51] <IcemanV9> Fluffy-Wuffy: i don't know. sorry. i'm outta here. it's late in where i live.
[07:51] <tico> some one know how to nstall firefox-2.0.0.6  in ubuntu dapper????
[07:51] <tico> i still have problems with that
[07:51] <Fluffy-Wuffy> ubuntu dapper?
[07:51] <Polygon89> tico, download it from the mozilla website, extract, and go to the folder and double click on the firefox binary
[07:51] <tico> yes
[07:51] <tico> yes
[07:52] <tico> but i want to use as my default browser
[07:52] <Fluffy-Wuffy> update to feisty fawn, firefox comes with it
[07:52] <lastexile> can anyone tell me anything about problems unmounting external units in ubuntu
[07:52] <Fluffy-Wuffy> it will update in the Update Manager
[07:52] <Polygon89> tico, you can set it
[07:52] <lastexile> ?
[07:52] <Polygon89> tico, as your default browser using the default applications preferences thing
[07:52] <tico> it work but when i close firefox 2.00.6 and try to open something the version 1.5 comes up
[07:53] <asc> lastexile: It would help if we knew what the problem was. I mean, did it catch on fire or what?
[07:53] <Polygon89> did you set it as default in the default applications preferences application?
[07:53] <tico> I try it but dosen't work
[07:53] <gvsa123> Fluffy-Wuffy: i see... that's the little padlock icon on the lower right hand corner right? also my FF yahoo toolbar is acting pretty weird, wou
[07:53] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i dont use toolbars from anywhere
[07:54] <gvsa123> Fluffy-Wuffy: i was going to delete the next line after the question... sorry.
[07:54] <lastexile> asc, the problem is that when I want to unmount it simply shows up a pop up saying that something has to be written
[07:54] <Fluffy-Wuffy> just more people seeing what your doing
[07:54] <lastexile> and the only thing I did was listen to some music...
[07:54] <lastexile> most frustrating I should say, when it did not give this sort of trouble in 6.10
[07:55] <asc> lastexile: Not an error I've seen before. Try dismounting it from the terminal?
[07:55] <lastexile> no, by clicking on righ mouse button, as I always done.
[07:56] <asc> lastexile: I'd try 'sudo unmount /dev/device' then. It might give you a more useful error.
[07:56] <lastexile> the bloddy problem only showed up after installing 7.10 (from scratch I might add)
[07:56] <Kazer0> So I installed ubuntu via alternate CD and I still cant get x to start
[07:56] <Kazer0> Vesa: No supporeted modes found
[07:56] <Kazer0> Any ideas?
[07:57] <Kazer0> Anyone?
[07:57] <lastexile> asc it says an app is using the hdd
[07:58] <Myrtti> then there probably is some process that's keeping it busy
[07:58] <asc> lastexile: run 'sudo lsof /dev/device' and it should tell you which
[07:58] <Myrtti> check that you don't have any file managers or such using it
[07:58] <sdouble> I have a program that I want to be able to load when I'm anywhere in the console simply by typing it's name.  How do I do that?
[07:59] <asc> sdouble: Copy it to /usr/bin would be easiest.
[07:59] <lastexile> I'll do so...
[07:59] <sdouble> yeah, but it depends on some files in it's directory as well
[07:59] <asc> make a softlink in /usr/bin to the program
[08:00] <lastexile> strange it nows says that according to mtab is not mounted, but i can access and navigate the files
[08:00] <asc> 'cd /usr/bin; sudo ln -s /path/to/program'
[08:00] <lastexile> it's a usb externaol hard disk
[08:01] <sdouble> I'll tryu that right now asc
[08:01] <asc> (if you're lucky, that will actually work. But maybe it won't)
[08:02] <sauvin> What applications exist to manipulate an iPod (with an apparently FAT-formatted 80GB hard drive)?
[08:02] <Juchipilo> gtkpod
[08:02] <asc> lastexile: Um, interesting.
[08:02] <sdouble> it works, but it won't load because of the rest of the files it requires in the directory
[08:02] <sdouble> can I just link the whole directory instead?
[08:02] <asc> sdouble: Then it just gets more fun.
[08:03] <lastexile> yeat, and you know sumthing else asc? it doesnt recognize my palm tx in external mode, which ubuntu 6.10 did with no glitches....
[08:03] <Extravert> hello does anyone know if color laser gloss paper can be used with an inkjet printer?
[08:03] <sdouble> asc: nope, that doesn't work either.  =/
[08:03] <lastexile> definitely there's something wrong. my machine or ubuntu's version, I cant tell
[08:03] <lastexile> Extravert - waste of ink and paper
[08:04] <asc> sdouble: remove the link. 'sudo nano /usr/program' and put in the following: 'cd /path/to/program/directory' and './program' on a new line.
[08:04] <asc> sdouble: Then 'sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/program'
[08:04] <tico> Polygon89: i did it  and work te problem is that in this way it takes so long to open my home page (google.com)
[08:04] <asc> lastexile: One thing you could try it just pulling it out. If you didn't edit anything, there shouldn't be any problems. :p
[08:05] <asc> lastexile: But that's not very good advise.
[08:05] <asc> *advice
[08:05] <carlos> x-chat
[08:05] <Extravert> lastexile: really? I saw gloss paper listed
[08:05] <cavediver> Hi there. I have a problem with apache2 all of a sudden. Anyone else having an issue with 6.06 and Apache2 ?
[08:05] <lastexile> well...
[08:05] <phoenix_> join macadamian
[08:05] <lastexile> asc, Im sorry for my girlfriend but Im definitely coming back to debian 3...
[08:06] <carlos> spanish
[08:06] <lastexile> Im not a savvy guy but things worked alright
[08:06] <asc> lastexile: Debian is for the win.
[08:06] <carlos> x-chat msn ??
[08:06] <lastexile> and in ubuntu there's always that does not things the way they're supposed to go
[08:07] <carlos> bay
[08:07] <lastexile> alwasys ***something***
[08:07] <asc> Mm.
[08:07] <asc> I tend to do things by hand, so they're pretty much identical to me.
[08:07] <lillian> hello, i am thinking this ubuntu is soo hard to use that i need to just go back to windows
[08:07] <lastexile> yeath, I tried commands, but mtab does not acknoledge the unit as being mounted...
[08:07] <maestrojed> I am obviously very new to ubuntu.  Is there any way to find out how my RAM is in the computer. I don't see it in System>Preferences>Hardware Information
[08:08] <lastexile> preposterours
[08:08] <lastexile> preposterous
[08:08] <phoenix_> \join a
[08:08] <lastexile> anyway asc, thanks a lot for your time and patience
[08:09] <lastexile> by the way more than an hour here and nobody has mentioned automatix (must be a sign of the end of times...)
[08:09] <asc> lastexile: Well, I have to admit that I've not run into mtab.
[08:09] <sdouble> asc: awesome, it works as it should.  Thanks for the help.  =] 
[08:09] <asc> lastexile: Righto. Live and be well.
[08:09] <sauvin> With the iPod already in vfat, apparently, there's going to be no problem using it with linux, correct?
[08:09] <asc> sdouble: Glad I could help.
[08:10] <lastexile> sauvin - there are issues in 7.04 I've just read.... not so in 6.10
[08:10] <sauvin> What kinds of issues?
[08:11] <docmur__> is there any good software for ubuntu which can rip a free web site
[08:11] <dmakalsky> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop (Thinkpad X60) and for some reason, I can't get my mic to work... are there any known issues?
[08:12] <sauvin> I tried to install gtkpod from the synaptic package manager - it bombs :\
[08:12] <lillian> yes my mic also does not work
[08:12] <lillian> and my web cam
[08:12] <lillian> and i can not use any chat room
[08:13] <lillian> its a big problem because i have friends all over the world
[08:14] <vancomycin> hey all 2 questions : i am presently downloading the iso live cd (i didn't want the wubi virtual disk version), i only have 1 drive on my laptop unpartitioned, i have 8gb free for ubuntu, 92gb is being used by xp. i came here yesterday and a member had mentioned that i need to fix the grub on the live cd. i was given this link : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37489/ when and where should i do this after i burn the iso?
[08:15] <Kazer0> Anyone who can help me manually install ati drivers?
[08:15] <Kazer0> All I have is a prompt
[08:15] <cavediver> What does this mean? Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: xml_PathPINF
[08:15] <vancomycin> 2nd question, i see some of these commands - and as a windows user, i have no idea what these commands mean - is there a newbie's guide to using commands in ubuntu? i'd like to know what they mean... this is a whole new language and format for me and would like to start from the bottom
[08:16] <mewshi> Hey :)
[08:16] <asc> vancomycin: It looks like you'll want to do that in a terminal. GRUB works fine for me though.
[08:16] <asc> vancomycin: Open a terminal and run 'man command' for a command's manual page.
[08:17] <dxdt> vancomycin: Yeah I used to have that problem too.  Best way is to man and google the hell out of commands
[08:17] <maestrojed> I am trying to add a secondary HD to my computer.  My computer's HD connections are IDU.  I wanted SATA so I added a SATA PCI card and a SATA HD.  I don't know how to get Unbuntu to see this card/HD.  Can anyone help?
[08:19] <Kazer0> Is there an x server IRC channel?
[08:19] <vancomycin> @asc - yeah one member had told me though to be careful w/ (hd0,1) whatever that means lol... eventually i want to switch more of my windows hdd space to the ubuntu partition, just for now i am testing it out to see what this new OS is like, i have a lot of medical school stuff on windows which is taking the 92gb up can't delete/move to disc until a month or so later
[08:19] <phoenix_> I just fixed an -server problem with a radeon 9250
[08:20] <phoenix_> x-server*
[08:20] <DjBones> Kazer0: think there is a section for it on the gentoo server
[08:20] <recourse> konsole
[08:20] <recourse> gah!
[08:20] <GNine> EXT3 for life!!
[08:20] <KalEl> hi, i've upgraded my graphics driver (from NVidia to NVidia) but the GUI is not loading anymore
[08:21] <GNine> heh
[08:21] <vancomycin> @dxdt > hehe, yeah these commands are new to me for sure! i'll be googling them, i saw a few newbie command pages - but understood only a bit. it's like learning to walk all over
[08:21] <KalEl> would appreciate any help
[08:21] <DjBones> dont start a fight with the reiserfs people there GNine
[08:21] <GNine> yah.. i hear ya
[08:21] <GNine> :-P
[08:21] <KalEl> is there a default "driver" that i can revert to in xorg.conf so it loads?
[08:21] <usser> KalEl: vesa
[08:21] <h1st0> KalEl: vesa or nv
[08:22] <KalEl> ok thanks i'll try
[08:22] <dxdt> KalEl: vesa
[08:22] <h1st0> KalEl: did you remove the old driver?
[08:22] <KalEl> no
[08:22] <KalEl> i figured since both are nvidia, it should work
[08:22] <h1st0> KalEl: you may want to try that before installing a new one.] 
[08:22] <KalEl> oh
[08:22] <KalEl> sure
[08:22] <dxdt> well, most of the time you are ok just changning the line in xorg.conf, most time you don't have to remove the actual driver for testing purposes
[08:22] <KalEl> how could i do that?
[08:22] <XsteelWolf> How do i remove a old kernel?it's showing up previous kernel in boot loader
[08:22] <asc> vancomycin: That sounds like something that is good to be careful with, certainly. I'm not dead certain what those commands will do; it looks like it will re-install or re-configure an existing GRUB installation, but I don't know why that would be necessary if it's already installed.
[08:22] <h1st0> KalEl: it would be something like sudo sh NVIDIA...blah.... --uninstall
[08:22] <MTecknology> I have a vm i finally finished creating. I want to put this vm on about 10 different computers. Is there any way to make this vm be able to have a static IP on every system?
[08:23] <KalEl> ok...
[08:23] <KalEl> using apt-get?
[08:23] <KalEl> sudo apt-get nvdia -uninstall?
[08:23] <h1st0> MTecknology: the same IP accross all 10 machines?
[08:23] <MTecknology> ya
[08:23] <GNine> ha!
[08:23] <h1st0> KalEl: no not if you are installing the nvidia.com drivers
[08:23] <XsteelWolf> sudo apt-get remove nvidia
[08:23] <zanth> hello, I am having some issues with sata drives automounting and the fstab configurations
[08:23] <XsteelWolf> How do i remove a old kernel?it's showing up previous kernel in boot loader
[08:23] <KalEl> thank you x-Dieu
[08:23] <h1st0> KalEl: you have to use that Nvidia.blah.run file you have to sudo sh NVIDIA....run --uninstall
[08:23] <zanth> my problem is that if I config /etc/fstab it seems on boot up, the sata drives might not be mounted on the same device each time
[08:24] <zanth> so sda1 might be sdb1 next time and then the moutn points get all screwed up
[08:24] <dxdt> zanth: that is really weird.
[08:24] <supaneko> I am having a little bit of difficulty with grub. Could someone help me, please?
[08:24] <h1st0> zanth: does your hard drive flop from /dev/hda to /dev/sda?
[08:24] <asc> XsteelWolf: open synaptic, search for 'linux-image' and remove the old one.
[08:24] <h1st0> !ask | supaneko
[08:24] <ubotu> supaneko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:24] <zanth> h1st0, no it does not
[08:24] <XsteelWolf> what's the command to open synaptic
[08:24] <zanth> always sees them as sata drives
[08:24] <supaneko> Hehe, well thank you. :)
[08:24] <asc> 'gksu synaptic'
[08:25] <progek> has anyone here installed the 1.68 patch for Neverwinter Nights 1 ? After following the instructions from biowares site nwn failed to run.
[08:25] <dxdt> XsteelWolf: or just go through the menus under like administrator
[08:25] <progek> I reinstalled nwn
[08:25] <XsteelWolf> i don't have gui yet
[08:25] <supaneko> Originally, i installed 7.04. Later, I bought a second hard drive and installed Ubuntu Studio onto it. So, I have two Ubuntu installs.
[08:25] <asc> ah
[08:25] <zanth> but for instance I have /dev/sdc1 pointed to /media/iTunes
[08:25] <asc> that will make it a little more difficult
[08:25] <zanth> if I restart /dev/sdc1 might actually be my XP partition now...not my itunes one
[08:25] <Fluffy-Wuffy> "decisecond"
[08:25] <Fluffy-Wuffy> hmmm
[08:25] <supaneko> I want to remove the second hard drive and use it in another computer. But after removing it, I get the grub error 17 message when trying to boot.
[08:25] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me get a Broadcom Inc BCM4210 iLine10 HomePNA 2.0 card working in Ubuntu?
[08:26] <h1st0> zanth: so you just have them named wrong in fstab
[08:26] <KalEl> i should have uninstalled when i still had the older card
[08:26] <h1st0> supaneko: grub is installed on that drive.
[08:26] <asc> XsteelWolf: use 'aptitude search linux-image | grep "i  " '
[08:26] <supaneko> How can I fix that? I tried to edit the grub.conf on both the drives but there doesn't seem to be anything else to edit.
[08:26] <KalEl> oh hey vesa is working thanks!
[08:26] <supaneko> Hmm... So how do re-install grub and make it work (for now at least) only with the original Ubuntu install?
[08:26] <GNine> common sense goes a lont way
[08:26] <asc> XsteelWolf: then use 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.whatever'
[08:26] <zanth> h1st0, I thought that also, so I renamed them, restarted, and the change occured, /dev/sdc1 now might end up back as itunes once detected so it mounts as /media/XP
[08:26] <GNine> *long
[08:26] <h1st0> !grub | supaneko
[08:26] <ubotu> supaneko: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:26] <Megaqwerty> supaneko: sudo update-grub ;)
[08:26] <zanth> h1st0, via the renamed entry in fstab
[08:27] <vancomycin> @asc > yeah i am not sure, i am looking at the newbie forum - but i figured this live cd would do everything i wanted.... : 1. create a new partition and install ubuntu on there 2. keep my existing windows xp data 3. allow me to boot in either OS when turning on my laptop. 4. eventually increasing the hdd size of my ubuntu partition while decreasing the hdd size of my windows partition. I only have 1 hdd built in which is a 100gb NTFS 
[08:27] <supaneko> Megaqwerty, if I do that with the second hard drive still attached, will it update grub to be on the first hard drive?
[08:27] <maestrojed> When adding hardware is there a program in Ubuntu to add hardware?  If it doesn't recognize the hardware by itself what do you do?
[08:27] <Megaqwerty> supaneko: not sure...just happen to know the command :-\
[08:27] <supaneko> *LOL* Hehe, well thanks.
[08:28] <h1st0> supaneko: no you would have to sudo grub-install /dev/hda  or /dev/sda  to specify which hard drive you want to install it to.
[08:28] <DjBones> magic of modprobe? or is that net..
[08:28] <asc> vancomycin: Sounds about right. I've never tried resizing partitions myself, but it can certainly do the rest.
[08:28] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: you have a look at system->pref->hardware info if it is listed as unknown
[08:28] <GNine> you can do just find with 30 gigs .. unless your pirating dvds
[08:28] <GNine> heh
[08:28] <h1st0> maestrojed: most hard ware is detected by the kernel and a module is loaded.  Have you tried lscpi to see if it found the hardware.
[08:29] <supaneko> Hmm... Says that /dev/hda not found.
[08:29] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me get a Broadcom Inc BCM4210 iLine10 HomePNA 2.0 card working in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <h1st0> maestrojed: also look at dmesg
[08:29] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: paste bin the output of lscpi
[08:29] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed, h1st0 :dmesg|tail would give you the last lines of the msg
[08:29] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Inc BCM4210 iLine10 HomePNA 2.0 (rev 01)
[08:30] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: there's more, but that's all you'll need, right?
[08:30] <zanth> h1st0, is it safe to delete all entries in fstab, restart and see what happens? will ubuntu autodetect and automount?
[08:30] <supaneko> How do I determine the device name for a hard drive?
[08:30] <GNine> lol
[08:30] <Megaqwerty> supaneko: mount
[08:30] <maestrojed> fermatstheorem: My new device is a SATA controller and HD.  I see the SATA controller in Hardware Information but the "HD" listed under it is all Unknown SCSI Devices
[08:30] <h1st0> zanth: no
[08:30] <h1st0> !fstab | zanth
[08:30] <ubotu> zanth: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:31] <h1st0> zanth: you can sudo fdisk -l to get a list of your parittions if you are confused
[08:31] <zanth> no I know exactly where everything is
[08:31] <zanth> just not why it is switching mount points
[08:31] <GNine> there is nothing automatic about unix.  learn to think that way and youll have less headaches
[08:31] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: which means the stock kernel hasn't recognized your device
[08:31] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: do you need more output, or did that suffice?
[08:32] <zanth> h1st0, reading fstab right now shows taht /dev/sde1 is my XP partition, but 10 minutes ago before a reboot it was sdc1
[08:32] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: did you check for the h/w compatibility, i suggest you google it for additional drivers etc
[08:32] <supaneko> OK, let's hope this all worked! :)
[08:32] <supaneko> THanks guys.
[08:32] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: no i'm just seeing if anyone has played around with that card and ubuntu or linux.  I'm just seeing the 43xx cards
[08:33] <aMoRPHeouS> is it just me or are there no DVD versions of Ubuntu?
[08:33] <dxdt> aMoRPHeouS: there are, they are just more obscurely found.
[08:33] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: ah, carry on then.
[08:33] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: and thanks
[08:33] <dxdt> aMoRPHeouS: like on the websites and such.  I  have to look around.  Kubuntu puts theirs nice and upfront.  it is odd
[08:33] <maestrojed> fermatstheorem: well I checked the SATA Controller's capatability.  I believe it is fine since it shows up in Hardware Information.  Would I need drivers (or worry about capability) for a HD connected to that controller?
[08:33] <DjBones> aMoRPHeouS: Linux magazine came with a dvd version
[08:34] <aMoRPHeouS> thanks dxdt. I think I'll pass. wrong time of the morning to go looking and there are other distros that make it much easier
[08:34] <aMoRPHeouS> I don't buy Linux mag often
[08:34] <dbruns> I just installed ubuntu feisty on my PC to my left and i'm trying to get a connection to my wireless router in this room. The wireless device driver is installed fine and the device is recognized, but I am unable to locate my router (or any other access point nearby)  any help is appreciated
[08:34] <zanth> h1st0, I installed a pci sata expansion card, fstab lists my linux drive with its three partitions as sda1 2 and 3 but they are now in reality sdb1 2 and 3 and the sole drive connected to the pc1 card is listed as sda1, maybe that card is mucking everything up?
[08:34] <DjBones> aMoRPHeouS: with the price i dont blame you haha
[08:34] <GNine> why kills a tree when i got google
[08:34] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: check with dmesg|tail and find out the device name
[08:34] <aMoRPHeouS> exactly :)
[08:34] <aMoRPHeouS> GNine, good point :)
[08:35] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: like /dev/sdb etc
[08:35] <sauvin> I'm trying to install gtkpod and it keeps honking all kinds of dependency problems for libmxl stuff for feisty.
[08:35] <sauvin> is there a way around this?
[08:35] <fermatstheorem> maestrojed: we can then use fdisk to check the paritition status
[08:35] <supaneko> SUCCESS!! :)
[08:35] <aMoRPHeouS> I need to do an offline install. No DVD means having to have internet access
[08:36] <aMoRPHeouS> which isn't possible
[08:36] <MongooseWA> is there a way to increase the ogg bitrate in sound juicer?
[08:36] <GNine> last subscription i remember was .. playboy.. but i got google now    lol
[08:36] <Krimpet> does anyone know how to make xterm and/or gnome-terminal flash the taskbar on a terminal bell?
[08:36] <supaneko> One more question: After installing a second LCD, the "primary" display won't save its resolution. Every time I reboot, I have to change the resolution. I save the file every time, have SU when I do it, but it still reverts and its only on the one display.
[08:36] <supaneko> Any ideas?
[08:36] <KalEl_> is there a need for speed carbon version for Ubuntu?
[08:36] <aMoRPHeouS> lol ^
[08:37] <Megaqwerty> aMoRPHeouS: you find the DVD version?
[08:37] <h1st0> zanth: no its probably a problem with the libata we are all guinie pigging for someone with Ubuntu
[08:37] <aMoRPHeouS> nah, can't be arsed
[08:37] <DjBones> Krimpet: i know xfce4-terminal has a function for that in its preferences
[08:37] <Megaqwerty> aMoRPHeouS: it's at cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <aMoRPHeouS> got Gentoo DVD downloading as well as CentOS
[08:37] <Megaqwerty> aMoRPHeouS: have fun
[08:37] <DjBones> Krimpet: then again its just a wrapper for xterm haha
[08:37] <zanth> h1st0, ah, okay thanks for your help
[08:37] <aMoRPHeouS> thanks Megaqwerty
[08:37] <supaneko> And actually, after looking at xorg.conf, it looks like the resolution is set correctly in the file.
[08:37] <supaneko> And when I am at the login screen, its at the proper resolution. But once I log in, the resolution reverts to 1024x768.
[08:38] <Krimpet> DjBones: i tried setting this thing in my .Xdefaults that is supposedly supposed to make xterm flash, but it doesn't seem to work. :/
[08:38] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: I would try ndiswrapper and see if that works.  I'm not finding anything on a linux driver for that device.
[08:38] <h1st0> !ndiswrapper | Megaqwerty
[08:38] <ubotu> Megaqwerty: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <aMoRPHeouS> Megaqwerty, oops. should have mentioned I'm looking for a version with LTS :P
[08:39] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: could you help me locate the windows driver?
[08:39] <GNine> my favorite resolution, 1024x768..  really...
[08:39] <Megaqwerty> aMoRPHeouS: Dapper
[08:39] <supaneko> GNine: Yeah... Me too... Looks great on a widescreen LCD. ;)
[08:39] <Krimpet> i'm trying to get it to flash on bell, so that i can run irssi in X11 and make it flash on highlights/PMs when it's in the background like xchat does
[08:39] <Megaqwerty> aMoRPHeouS: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/release.1/
[08:39] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:39] <GNine> nice enuff on just 19  4:2
[08:39] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: you don't have one?
[08:39] <GNine> heh
[08:40] <aMoRPHeouS> <3. Thanks Megaqwerty
[08:40] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: I'll find the box...I installed the card years ago
[08:40] <dbruns> no one up for helping me figure out why I can't connect to my wireless router ? :(
[08:40] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: assuming I still have it...it's not a wireless card...does that matter as well?
[08:40] <DjBones> dbruns: does your wireless work? or is it ethernet
[08:40] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: is this a phone line to network adapter?
[08:40] <DjBones> dbruns: i mean like your wireless card driver lo
[08:41] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: yeah
[08:41] <GNine> a wireless hub supports ethernet connections
[08:41] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: sadly our house still runs on long dead technology :-\
[08:41] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: it'll be a while before we get it wired with ethernet
[08:41] <GNine> maybe u should just use ethernet if your physically close to it
[08:41] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: till then, it's HPNA support in Ubuntu, or I'm stuck in Windoze (I'd really prefer the former)
[08:41] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: Thats the beauty of wireless
[08:42] <dbruns> DjBones:  the driver for my wireless card is fine.. its on device eth2    ... iwlist eth2 scan   finds nothing but it returns instantly...  so maybe the driver isn't installed properly.. i just installed ubuntu for the first time tonight...  i'm coming from gentoo
[08:42] <maestrojed> fermatstheorem: I have been looking through dmesg but I have not found anything like /dev/sdb.  I find a section that seems to be referring to the HD (unknown partition table, ect.).  Could its name just be "sda"?
[08:42] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: yeah, I know...still the question stands, does ndiswrapper work with wired drivers?
[08:42] <xeer_> hi everyone, problem here.. i'm using gedit to edit a file on a ssh mount. the first time i save the file it works fine. the second time i get a permissions error. listing the contents of the dirctory there is a new file with a ~ appended, if i delete this file i can save again.. but it is created on the next save and i lose permissions once again
[08:42] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: I would try posting someting on the forums because I have no idea hwo that would work.
[08:43] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: yes ndiswrapper would work with a wired device.  but you have more than a normal wired device.  I'm not sure how the kernel would handle it.
[08:43] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: alright, thanks. I think the kernel has some support in pcnet32, I just have no idea how to use that....saw something about it a while ago
[08:43] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: I would see if there is anything listed in dmesg from when the card comes up or lsmod and see if any drivers are loaded.
[08:44] <xeer_> can someone help me with my question please?
[08:44] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: anyhow, I'll try ndiswrapper.
[08:44] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: I found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306478
[08:44] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: cool, I'll check it out
[08:45] <GNine> i connected fine to a wireless hub thru eth1.. i also have a wireless card installed (not in use)
[08:45] <GNine> am just handy like that
[08:45] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: what the....the Linux driver is an .exe?
[08:45] <DjBones> dbruns: haha ok, youve got a better background than i do.. if you dont feel like delvin into the netconfig you can fiddle with the system>administration>Network
[08:45] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: I have serious doubts in the sanity of Linksys...
[08:45] <HardDisk> morning, I accidentally did mkfs.vfat -n M3 /dev/sdc1 on my USB drive, can I undo it, I didnt transfer any data to it, stopped after I realized what an idiot move I did.
[08:45] <xeer_> hi everyone, problem here.. i'm using gedit to edit a file on a ssh mount. the first time i save the file it works fine. the second time i get a permissions error. listing the contents of the dirctory there is a new file with a ~ appended, if i delete this file i can save again.. but it is created on the next save and i lose permissions once again
[08:45] <h1st0> Megaqwerty: yeah most likely that is just a link to a windows driver
[08:46] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: well, that's a start.
[08:46] <Megaqwerty> h1st0: thanks
[08:46] <dbruns> DjBones:  :( been there done that lol... was hoping it was a common problem or issue with however ubuntu tries to setup wireless by default
[08:46] <dbruns> I've tried using a static IP  and stuff.. it doesn't work :(
[08:47] <DjBones> dbruns: haha.. wireless and graphics cards seem to be the most common problems.. although if you have the right driver for it, not sure why it would fight you lol
[08:47] <dug> xeer_: you might try edit->preferences and turn off saving a backup copy
[08:47] <GNine> dhcp and samba worked fine for networking with windows puters from linux
[08:47] <dbruns> well its using the same driver i was using with gentoo
[08:47] <DjBones> dbruns: you have tried dhcp of course?
[08:47] <dbruns> yes
[08:47] <HardDisk> I did google, but didn't find an answer to what I want to do in ubuntu...
[08:47] <rabiddachshund> How do I edit grub to change the boot order?
[08:47] <Krimpet> ah, i _finally_ found out why xterm bellisurgent isn't working for me -- it was added in version 225, but i seem to only have version 223
[08:47] <dbruns> DjBones:  its not finding my access point at all :(
[08:47] <HardDisk> rabiddachshund just install startup manager you can do it gui.
[08:48] <rabiddachshund> is that in the package manager?
[08:48] <HardDisk> yea
[08:48] <HardDisk> Startup-Manager
[08:48] <rabiddachshund> awesome. Thanks.
[08:48] <DjBones> dbruns: and ethernet works right?
[08:48] <HardDisk> now someone help me with how do I undo a mkfs.vfat on a usb stick?
[08:49] <Shinobii> hello all
[08:49] <Shinobii> I got a question
[08:49] <dmakalsky> should I upgrade to 7.10 now?
[08:49] <Shinobii> How do I download a youtube video?
[08:49] <dbruns> DjBones:  haven't tried it yet.. but i would assume it does   I don't have a long enough cable to test it at the moment and i don't feel like cutting some cat5 just to check lol
[08:49] <HardDisk> 7.10 is stable so far for me, but I would wait for final release.
[08:49] <Shinobii> and, am I then able to edit in Kino
[08:49] <GNine> any other puters closer ?
[08:49] <Krimpet> i'm still kind of new to ubuntu -- if i want to upgrade to a newer version of xterm, is there a "proper" way for me to do so, other than compiling and installing from source?
[08:50] <HardDisk> Shinobii to download youtube you can use a firefox plugin or install Miro
[08:50] <DjBones> dbruns: dont blame you haha.. well static ip would be my next thing on the list but you said you already tried that.. have you tried fiddlin with what ports to open?
[08:50] <Shinobii> Miro.
[08:50] <Shinobii> ok
[08:50] <dug> Shinobii: there are some video download services like a firefox extension
[08:50] <dmakalsky> HardDisk: what's the recommended way to upgrade from 7.04 -> 7.10 .... do I need to download and use the ISO?
[08:50] <Shinobii> Ill try
[08:50] <GamingX> Hello guys, can someone tell of a voice chat client which runs on Ubuntu?
[08:50] <miha> use download helper for downloading from youtube
[08:50] <GNine> what about firewalls .. router security , etc
[08:50] <HardDisk> dmakalsky no, just do a sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:50] <dbruns> DjBones:  no.. why would that matter?
[08:50] <miha> skype
[08:50] <maestrojed> When installing a new HD I believe since there is no partition table it is not recognized by Ubuntu. How can I partition it?
[08:50] <dug> GamingX: there is kopete
 skype ?
[08:51] <HardDisk> if that doesnt work, then just change repositories to gutsy instead of feisty in your sources.list
[08:51] <HardDisk> then do dist-upgrade
[08:51] <GamingX> I want PC2PC client....
[08:51] <HardDisk> maestrojed gparted
[08:51] <HardDisk> GamingX google for opensource sip
[08:51] <DjBones> dbruns: haha well, networks aren't my forte, but i assumed that since that most debian based distros start with all closed yours might have started closed with a restricted driver and not opened.. stupid thinkin i guess haha
[08:51] <HardDisk> gizmo or skype work
[08:51] <GamingX> does Kopete have facilities for Voice Chat
[08:52] <HardDisk> no idea I dont do kde on ubuntu
[08:52] <HardDisk> and dont have it on my opensuse one either
[08:52] <maestrojed> HardDisk: Since the HD is not showing up right now, I don't know its name. (need to run a command).  How can I find out its name?
[08:52] <dug> GamingX: Kopete is an instant messaging client (yahoo, etc.) with voice support.  See also gyachi and ekiga
[08:52] <miha> skype is alco pc2pc clienz
[08:52] <miha> also*
[08:52] <HardDisk> maestrojed do fdisk -l or type mount on its own to see whats mounted
[08:52] <dbruns> what firewall does ubuntu feisty use?
[08:52] <GamingX> thanks guys, I'll look around....
[08:52] <dug> !iptables | dbruns
[08:52] <ubotu> dbruns: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:53] <dmakalsky> HardDisk: it  can't find package dist-upgrade
[08:53] <HardDisk> no dmakalsky
[08:53] <GNine> start from the beginning.. where you want to go is not where the road starts at
[08:53] <HardDisk> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:53] <sauvin> does anybody have an 80GB ipod working with ubuntu?
[08:53] <maestrojed> HardDisk: okay I think it is /dev/sda.  Does that sound right?
[08:53] <ChildX> hello
[08:53] <HardDisk> sda would be your root
[08:53] <HardDisk> not your new drive
[08:54] <HardDisk> sauvin yea, use amarok (KDE) or exaile (gnome) to get it to work
[08:54] <dug> dmakalsky: see this post and the comments about upgrading: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/26/the-move-to-gutsy-day-1/
[08:54] <HardDisk> they both have plugins for ipods
[08:54] <sauvin> I do NOT have Windows and so don't have iTunes to initialise it - will amarok do this?
[08:54] <HardDisk> yes
[08:54] <ChildX> (hd0,1) means disk number one and partition number 1      correct?
[08:55] <GamingX> Guys I was downloading a package using apt-get and in the middle of it I pressed Ctrl+C to terminate the program, so will the partially download package be deleted?
[08:55] <GNine> zero is a number
[08:55] <ChildX> GameMX, try
[08:56] <ChildX> i wanna know too
[08:56] <miha> if will be downloaded fully and it wil work
[08:56] <HardDisk> GamingX to clean just do apt-get autoremove && autoclean
[08:56] <miha> just repeat the installation
[08:56] <dug> GamingX: it won't hurt anything, but you can do sudo apt-cache clean I think to clean the package cache
[08:56] <GNine> hate  on banshee now
[08:57] <GNine> do it
[08:57] <ChildX> sauvin, use XMMS instead :)
[08:57] <Tex-Twil> hello, is the following line in sudoers correct: myuser ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/synaptic
[08:57] <miha> !amarok
[08:57] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:57] <maestrojed> If I am going to eventually share this HD with Macs and PCs should I partition/format it as Fat32?
[08:57] <DjBones> haha its all about the xmms
[08:57] <miha> or use Songbird
[08:58] <sauvin> ChildX, I'm trying to get an iPod running.
[08:58] <HardDisk> maes macs can read ext3 and pc's you can install an ext2 driver to read it, but to be safe, keep it fat32
[08:58] <Helmi> hey all ;)
[08:58] <maestrojed> HardDisk: TY
[08:58] <HardDisk> :D
[08:58] <sauvin> I can't get gtkpod to install.
[08:58] <Helmi> is  there a way to get rid of those (automatic) icons on the desktop for every network share and mounted device?
[08:59] <Helmi> (gnome, gutsy)
[08:59] <HardDisk> yea been using ubuntu for a little under 8 months
[08:59] <ChildX> Is it possible to make XMMS my default music player in Ubuntu 7.04? I do not use Rhythmbox, so I want my prefered music player to be default. How can I make XMMS my default music player?
[08:59] <HardDisk> I pretty much read ubuntuguide.org ubuntuhq.com and ubuntugeek.com
[08:59] <HardDisk> ChildX right click an mp3 and select default player from its option
[09:00] <HardDisk> from the open with tab
[09:00] <dug> ChildX: right click mp3 file, choose properties, then go to 'open with' tab
[09:00] <ChildX> HardDisk, I have done that already.
[09:00] <miha> childx right click and go to proerties an  determine a default player
[09:00] <HardDisk> and if you dont use rhythmbox, remove it
[09:00] <HardDisk> I dont like keeping apps I never use :D
[09:00] <ChildX> When i press my 'music note' key on my multimedia keyboard, Rhythmbox opens... I want that XMMS opens... How can I do that?
[09:01] <HardDisk> ah thats different
[09:01] <HardDisk> you have to set keyboard shortcut or whatnot
[09:01] <ChildX> please guide me
[09:01] <HardDisk> check in preferences keyboard shortcuts
[09:01] <DjBones> cant you set the default player in the gconf?
[09:01] <HardDisk> yea
[09:01] <ChildX> you mean gconf-editor?
[09:01] <HardDisk> but I dont rememebr where
[09:02] <h1st0> DjBones: yea but its a lot easier to just right click on a file and select the default open with
[09:02] <dug> Helmi: apparently if you mount a drive to /media, it will show on desktop, but if you mount elsewhere (like /mnt) it won't
[09:02] <DjBones> h1st0: haha.. i guess either way works, i just noticed that nobody said it lol
[09:02] <ChildX> Believe me... I have searched all the forums, all the help on Ubuntu, asked a lot of people, but nothing was helpful
[09:02] <dug> check your /etc/fstab and make sure you mkdir /mnt/yourmountpoint
[09:02] <h1st0> Helmi: open a terminal and type in gconf-editor there is an option for volumes on the dekstop
[09:02] <Helmi> dug, that would be nice - i mounted several network shares within /net (selfmade) and also some with nautilus (ssh-connection, ftp-con and stuff)
[09:03] <Helmi> h1st0, thanks will try ;)
[09:03] <dug> ChildX: I assume you tried system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[09:03] <h1st0> Helmi: apps > nautilus > desktop you can uncheck Volumes VIsible
[09:03] <HardDisk> h1 you wouldn't happen to know a way to un-mkfs.vfat a usb stick?
[09:03] <ChildX> dug, yes i did
[09:04] <Helmi> h1st0, thanks
[09:04] <HardDisk> I can do it via a hiren boot cd, but I want to do it in linux
[09:04] <DWonderly> in the gconf-editor under apps --> metacity --> global Keybindings and Keybinding cmmands
[09:04] <DWonderly> Catch that ChildX?
[09:05] <ChildX> dug, i have set the 'music note' key to open the music player... but it opens Rhythmbox... not what i want... i want to open XMMS when I press the 'music note' key...
[09:05] <Extravert> does anyone know the difference between highest and photo quality for printing?
[09:05] <dug> ChildX: DWonderly posted another possible way to change the key shortcut
[09:05] <ChildX> i have done that as well
[09:05] <HardDisk> Extravert photo quality usually uses a photo cartridge
[09:05] <miha> Can someone help me compiz fusion crashes when I activate  cube plugin. It's chrashing after last update.
[09:05] <HardDisk> and/or more colors used
[09:05] <GNine> music not music player = rhythmbox   hahah
[09:06] <ChildX> there's no entry for default music player
[09:06] <Extravert> HardDisk: I have an inkjet and bought gloss paper.  but the ink smears .
[09:06] <DWonderly> No, but, if you wanted to change the button you would find the key that is the muic button then change the program that itruns when you push it.
[09:06] <ChildX> DWonderly, aha
[09:06] <HardDisk> Extravert you need a photo cartridge
[09:07] <ChildX> DWonderly, please give me some more detaileed info about that
[09:07] <Extravert> HardDisk: really?
[09:07] <HardDisk> most probably, or use a different type of glossy paper
[09:07] <DWonderly> permission to PM?
[09:07] <Extravert> HardDisk: do I have to replace the ones I already have?
[09:07] <HardDisk> I've had issues like those years ago
[09:07] <Extravert> HardDisk: shuckes. wasted
[09:07] <unimatrix9> hello
[09:07] <ChildX> DWonderly, the scancode of the 'music note' key is 0xed
[09:07] <HardDisk> Extravert depends on your printer, some will have an extra photo cartridge slot, some you will just insert it instead of the black cartridge
[09:08] <unimatrix9> how would i edit .pot files?
[09:08] <HardDisk> Extravert also check your printer settings for "glossy paper"
[09:08] <unimatrix9> what program do i need to edit .pot files ( translation files for compiz-fusion )
[09:08] <HardDisk> don't just print high quality
[09:08] <HardDisk> when you set it as glossy mode, it releases the ink differently, check that
[09:09] <Extravert> HardDisk: k thanks.
[09:09] <HardDisk> np
[09:09] <GNine> :-P
[09:09] <Extravert> HardDisk: do you know what mirror print is?
[09:10] <DWonderly> ChildX open the gconf-editor
[09:10] <DWonderly> go to apps -> metacity ->
[09:10] <HardDisk> mirror print, is that anything like using microfilm?
[09:10] <HardDisk> I may know it, not the terminology
[09:10] <Extravert> HardDisk: its in my printer settings
[09:10] <GNine> mirror print.. sounds like networking
[09:10] <GNine> ugh
[09:10] <HardDisk> oh mirror print, that will reverse the print
[09:11] <GNine> heh
[09:11] <HardDisk> making an object leftside to rightside
[09:11] <HardDisk> like flipping
[09:11] <ChildX> DWonderly, I have navigated to metacity... what now?
[09:11] <sauvin> HardDisk, Amarok knows there's "portable device" there somwhere, but keeps telling me to "configure" it. The iPod is brand new; how do I get Amarok to deal with it?
[09:11] <dug> unimatrix9: search for "po editor" there are some like gtranslator, poedit
[09:11] <hamman> Is there any way to bypass the live cd where I can install without loading the live cd? The reason I ask is it moves so slow there has got to be a better or quicker way to do this thing.
[09:12] <HardDisk> sauvin, honestly I do not know, I dont own an ipod nor use amarok :) but you can google for a guide "how to use ipod in amarok ubuntu"
[09:12] <Extravert> HardDisk: since its gloss I should set it from thick to regular paper right? although it is a thick.
[09:12] <sauvin> !@#$!@%#
[09:12] <HardDisk> Extravert, there is no glossy paper in your settings?
[09:12] <sauvin> Google ain't being very helpful.
[09:12] <HardDisk> sauvin sec
[09:12] <maestrojed> HardDisk:  I just rebooted and can see that HD fine now.  However when I try to access it I first get a message A"ccess to this internal disk is restricted to system administrators for security purposes".  I changed the owner of the drive to the user (instead of root) but that did not fix it.  Is there anything I can do to eliminate this step?
[09:12] <unimatrix9> ok thank you
[09:12] <dug> hamman: there is an alternate install cd that doesn't load all the gui/gnome stuff, just text based
[09:13] <ChildX> DWonderly, where are you?
[09:13] <Extravert> HardDisk: there is but that didnt work
[09:13] <GNine> maybe your not asking the right question
[09:13] <tifine> hello everybody
[09:13] <DjBones> i believe the gtkpod package supports ipod connectivity that should work with rhythmbox or amarok
[09:13] <HardDisk> sauvin http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[09:13] <ghostscript> When is Gutsy coming out?
[09:13] <ChildX> in october
[09:13] <hamman> sounds like a plan to me. I dont have all freaking day to wait for that gui to load and then wait forever before the install begins. phooey
[09:13] <dug> ghostscript: october 18th i think
[09:13] <DWonderly> Sorry. Giv me a second... phone
[09:13] <HardDisk> october as in 7.10 .10=october
[09:13] <tifine> is there any channel related to bind (dns server )?
[09:14] <HardDisk> maestrojed how did you mount it?
[09:14] <ghostscript> dug: Thanks
[09:14] <ompaul> sauvin, ask in #kubuntu
[09:14] <HardDisk> and is it formatted?
[09:14] <catch23> anyone know mdadm well?  I'm wondering why I need to run "mdadm-raid start" on every reboot to start /dev/md1.  /dev/md1 isn't getting started automatically...
[09:14] <hamman> Heck edgy didnt take this long to get things moving along from the gui.
[09:14] <dug> tifine: don't know, maybe you could ask in a #linux channel or maybe there is a #dns channel
[09:14] <ChildX> DWonderly, where the hell are you??
[09:14] <maestrojed> HardDisk: not sure.... I used gparted to partition it and now it shows up
[09:14] <ChildX> oh telephone
[09:14] <ChildX> okay
[09:14] <HardDisk> in /media/ ?
[09:14] <tifine> join #dns
[09:14] <GNine> wrong .. october 2007
[09:15] <ChildX> you could have said 'brb' or something...
[09:15] <ChildX> okay never mind :)
[09:15] <GNine> oh.. this year... groovey
[09:15] <hellion0[laptop] > great, gutsy's coming out on my father's birthday. it's sure to be cursed for me now. :P
[09:15] <HardDisk> so kill your dad
[09:15] <GNine> lol
[09:15] <HardDisk> can't do it? hire someone
[09:15] <hellion0[laptop] > no need, he's got 14 years left to go.
[09:16] <hellion0[laptop] > *24
[09:16] <maestrojed> HardDisk: it is /dev/sda (I am not sure you were talking to me)
[09:16] <ChildX> every 6 months a new version of Ubuntu is released (in case you didn't know)
[09:16] <HardDisk> no money? find a psycho who will do it for free
[09:16] <HardDisk> maestrojed you will need to add it to your fstab file
[09:16] <hellion0[laptop] > anyway. having trouble with my sound on a fresh Edgy install.
[09:16] <HardDisk> to mount it
[09:16] <HardDisk> for example:
[09:16] <DWonderly> ChildX, go to keybinging_commands
[09:16] <GNine> lets start from the beginning..  do a kernel overwrite on your write.. the jury wont know the difference
[09:16] <ChildX> okay
[09:16] <ChildX> i am there
[09:17] <ChildX> now what?
[09:17] <DWonderly> chose an empty command (Comman_1)
[09:17] <GNine> i mean.. dad.. ok.. am drunk..
[09:17] <davetarmac> i need some help with my networking in Feisty - nm-applet appears to be stuck in manual configuration, can anyone help
[09:17] <HardDisk> place this in your /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /media/SharedDriveName  vfat  umask=000  0  0
[09:17] <ChildX> okay done
[09:17] <DWonderly> Set he value to rhythmbox
[09:17] <davetarmac> oh, and I seem to have lost my wifi card
[09:17] <HardDisk> sudo gedit /etc/fstab and enter it there
[09:17] <DWonderly> Now, go to global_keybindings
[09:18] <ChildX> DWonderly, done
[09:18] <h1st0> !wifi | davetarmac
[09:18] <ubotu> davetarmac: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:18] <davetarmac> ndiswrapper is installed and apparently working, but wifi0 doesn't show up in 'ifconfig'
[09:18] <h1st0> davetarmac: it may show up as eth0
[09:18] <ChildX> okay global_keybindings
[09:18] <h1st0> davetarmac: or if you use iwconfig instead  it will be in there.
[09:18] <ChildX> there...
[09:18] <ChildX> i am there
[09:18] <ChildX> now what?
[09:18] <h1st0> ChildX: why don't you just use preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[09:19] <DWonderly> double click on run comman_1 (Or whatever you selected) and enter the name of your music button
[09:19] <ChildX> i did
[09:19] <DWonderly> command_1 rather
[09:19] <ChildX> you mean the scancode of my music button?
[09:19] <DWonderly> correct
[09:19] <ChildX> okay
[09:19] <davetarmac> hlst0: it is there when I iwconfig. thanks. but how can I get nm-applet out of manual mode.
[09:19] <ChildX> it is 0xed
[09:19] <DWonderly> close gconf-editor nd try it.
[09:20] <ChildX> but why did i have to type Rhythmbox
[09:20] <ChildX> i want that this button opens xmms
[09:20] <DWonderly> oh, hang on...
[09:20] <ChildX> so i just have to go back and change command_1 value to xmms right?
[09:21] <DWonderly> hang on... what ever comand opens xmms...
[09:21] <ChildX> xmms
[09:21] <ChildX> that command opens xmms
[09:21] <ChildX> i know this
[09:21] <davetarmac> does anyone know if in the next release, ubuntu will have better support for WPA?
[09:21] <DWonderly> then yes
[09:21] <ChildX> okay
[09:21] <ChildX> let me try now
[09:22] <ompaul> daveshere, that is a card by card issue, but it seems to get easier, why not go to #ubuntu+1 and grab a disk and see how it works in the beta and report bugs before it is too late
[09:22] <ChildX> shit!!
[09:23] <DWonderly> did it work?
[09:23] <ChildX> no
[09:23] <ChildX> :(
[09:23] <ompaul> !ohmy | ChildX
[09:23] <ubotu> ChildX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:23] <DWonderly> dammit.
[09:23] <dug> maybe you need to restart gnome (control-alt-backspace, careful that quits everything)
[09:23] <DWonderly> ChildX what in the make of your keyboard?
[09:24] <ChildX> i'll try to remove the key for music player in keyboard shortcuts
[09:24] <ChildX> then i'll try again
[09:24] <ChildX> ah, now nothing happens
[09:24] <ChildX> dammit
[09:25] <azimuth3d> hello  ubuntu world!
[09:25] <DWonderly> what kind of keyboard?
[09:25] <DjBones> well i remember a while back about changing the symlink for rhythmbox if you never plan on using it again
[09:25] <ChildX> i have 'Genius Comfy KB-16e Scroll' keyboard
[09:26] <Alzan> Is there anyway to run windows programs on linux?
[09:26] <mihaX14> yes alzan use wine
[09:26] <Alzan> MihaX14: Where can I find wine?
[09:26] <mihaX14> via apt-get sudo apt-get install wine
[09:27] <Alzan> MihaX14: Does that require the internet? Because if so, I just got done talking to AOL to be told they support everything but Linux Distros.
[09:27] <HardDisk> well I hope I was a bit helpful, time for bed, been over 48hrs :)
[09:27] <HardDisk> see ya laterz
[09:28] <DjBones> what? AOL doesn't support linux? how could you be talking to us haha
[09:28] <mihaX14> and if you wanna rin an .exe file just cd to it's path and use : wine "[thenameoffile] .exe (without quotes)
[09:28] <hellion0[laptop] > meh, i don't ever listen to aol anyways.
[09:29] <dug> aol just discontinued active virus shield without telling any of its users
[09:29] <mihaX14> no you need  internet only to install wine
[09:29] <ompaul> !virus | dug
[09:29] <ubotu> dug: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[09:29] <Alzan> hellion0[laptop] : From experience, there's always a hack somewhere. Know of one? unofficially of course, off record. :)
[09:29] <DWonderly> ChildX do you have your keyboard selected under System -> Prefrences -> Keyboard
[09:30] <ChildX> DWonderly, there is no KB-16e
[09:30] <ChildX> just KB-21e Scroll
[09:31] <Alzan> MihaX14: So, does wine come pre-installed on Ubuntu?
[09:31] <DWonderly> there i a KB-16M.... hmmmm.....
[09:31] <hellion0[laptop] > lol. 'fraid not.
[09:31] <mihaX14> no
[09:31] <hellion0[laptop] > too concerned with my sound.
[09:31] <hellion0[laptop] > or lack thereof.
[09:31] <ChildX> KB-16M yes
[09:31] <mihaX14> you install it with command in terminal: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:31] <ChildX> but it should be KB-16e
[09:31] <Alzan> MihaX14: So is there anyway to get Wine and install it without using Linux? Like download it?
[09:31] <ompaul> Alzan, no you can install it with sudo apt-get install wine or via the installer - System Administration Synaptic on the menu
[09:32] <DWonderly> Right
[09:32] <mihaX14> Alzan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5458.html
[09:32] <ChildX> and the 'Scroll' part is also important
[09:32] <ChildX> i have a wheel on my keyboard
[09:33] <Kazero> Anyone here use AWN?
[09:33] <ChildX> so i need to choose the exact keyboard type
[09:33] <Kazero> I cant figure out what the command to start it is
[09:33] <hellion0[laptop] > i don't, yet.
[09:33] <DWonderly> So, when you press the music button it opens rythembox right?
[09:33] <ChildX> but there isn't any for my keyboard
[09:33] <Kazero> nm
[09:34] <ChildX> IF ANY DEVELOPER IS SCREENING THIS... PLEASE INCLUDE IN GUTSY GIBBON THIS TYPE OF KEYBOARD AS WELL:  Genius Comfy KB-16e Scroll
[09:34] <DWonderly> heheh.
[09:34] <rancidlm> hey all.. im tryin to xdmpc to another computer (thats another distro) but im unable to, im getting a error about mising fonts. can any one help?
[09:34] <hellion0[laptop] > heh.
[09:35] <hellion0[laptop] > i'm starting to regret getting a thinkpad 600. ><
[09:35] <Alzan> hellion0[laptop] : Yep. I just found 78 articles on how to connect with AOL Dialer using Linux
[09:35] <ChildX> DWonderly
[09:36] <hellion0[laptop] > it's possible. my girlfriend used to do so when she had a dual-boot running on her comp.
[09:36] <DWonderly> yes ChildX?
[09:36] <ChildX> DWonderly, is there any way i can suggest that keyboard type is being included in Gutsy Gibbon?
[09:36] <ChildX> *that my
[09:37] <magnetron> what type is that, ChildX?
[09:37] <ChildX> magnetron,  it is Genius Comfy KB-16e Scroll
[09:38] <DWonderly> ChildX: Gusty Idea pool -->   http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=253
[09:38] <ejer> is there any way to get a bigmem (for 4GB of ram) kernel that works with restricted modules?
[09:38] <ejer> ie allows me to use nvidia with 4GB ram
[09:39] <ChildX> i'll propose that there
[09:39] <ChildX> thanks
[09:39] <magnetron> ChildX: doesn't the keyboard work in feisty?
[09:40] <ChildX> it does
[09:40] <ChildX> but my type is not listed
[09:40] <Hali_303> hi all!
[09:40] <ChildX> so i'll propose them to add that type as well
[09:40] <hellion0[laptop] > multimedia keyboard? fun...
[09:40] <davetarmac> does anyone know how to get nm-applet out of manual configuraiton mode?
[09:41] <hellion0[laptop] > this is why i use an old iMac keyboard on my desktop these days. none of that extra stuff to give me a headache.
[09:41] <DWonderly> ChildX -- PM
[09:41] <Hali_303> I've setup my PC as a wireless bridge, it works flawlessly. Now I wanna configure it, so clients can only connect using WPA2. how can I do this?
[09:41] <mihaX14> !wpa2
[09:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:43] <ChildX> DWonderly, got my e-mail address?
[09:43] <DWonderly> lemme check
[09:43] <ejer> !bigmem
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bigmem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <ChildX> DWonderly, in the PM
[09:43] <ejer> meh
[09:43] <Hali_303> mihaX14: thanks
[09:43] <mihaX14> np
[09:44] <davetarmac> how do i comment lines out in /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:44] <hellion0[laptop] > ok. i have Edgy installed on a Thinkpad 600. i cannot get the sound to work. i tried all the instructions given here: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188736 - and it still doesn't work. should i be doing something different as far as Edgy's concerned?
[09:44] <ompaul> ejer, what is your actual question
[09:44] <davetarmac> is it #?
[09:44] <ChildX> DWonderly, i really don't feel saending e-mails today :)
[09:44] <ejer> ompaul: is there any way to get a bigmem (for 4GB of ram) kernel that works with restricted modules?
[09:44] <Hali_303> mihaX14: what I don't really get from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo is that wpasupplicant should be installed on the AP side?
[09:44] <ompaul> hellion0[laptop] , use fiesty .. it is a serious step up
[09:44] <DWonderly> :)
[09:45] <DWonderly> Good luck. I'll look up what i can for you.
[09:45] <ChildX> DWonderly, thanks
[09:45] <hellion0[laptop] > i can't install feisty. i tried burning the iso to several cds and doing a dist-upgrade, all with no success.
[09:45] <ompaul> ejer, what makes you think it does not
[09:45] <ejer> debian has the bigmem kernel
[09:45] <eipmoc> hi is this the place for a help questoin
[09:45] <ejer> ubuntu does not
[09:45] <hellion0[laptop] > for better or worse, i'm stuck with Edgy for the time being.
[09:46] <ejer> you cannot load nvidia module from restricted-modules with custom kernel
[09:46] <ChildX> DWonderly, I just don't understand why that keybinding command didn't work... maybe i need to reboot??
[09:46] <Alzan> Out of curiosity, I'm a new ubuntu user and was wondering what people recommend for programming with C++ and Python.
[09:46] <ejer> ompaul: what makes me thinkit does not is trying it and it not working ;)
[09:46] <fujin> Alzan, Adjunta is a good c++ ide
[09:46] <fujin> but generally
[09:46] <fujin> screen + vi
[09:46] <fujin> > *
[09:47] <DWonderly> try putting the key in <> brackets
[09:47] <fujin> You can't go past coding in vi
[09:47] <mihaX14> hali_303  http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[09:47] <ChildX> yeah good idea
[09:47] <ChildX> i'll do that
[09:47] <eipmoc> can someone help me white a sound problem, i realy like ubuntu and want to use it in a preschool
[09:47] <ompaul> ejer, ahh well me trying this "ubuntu 4 gig ram" in google threw back several answers
[09:47] <magnetron> Alzan: first, install the build-essential package. For c++ ide, i heard anjuta is good
[09:47] <fujin> anjuta
[09:47] <fujin> !anjuta
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anjuta - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <fujin> !package anjuta
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package anjuta - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <fujin> pf
[09:48] <jimmacdonald> who was trying to talk to me earlier?
[09:48] <ejer> ompaul: I am running a custom kernel with 4g ram, all good, I just cannot get 3d acceleration
[09:48] <ompaul> ejer, I am kind of interested in that as I have big boxes that need converting in work to something a little more modern :-/
[09:48] <ChildX> DWonderly, same thing... Rhythmbox opens
[09:48] <ChildX> :(
[09:48] <maestrojed> HardDisk: I have been working on mounting that drive.  I can't get it mounted and I am not sure why.  I have edited the /etc/fstab file.  The drive is /dev/sda or maybe /dev/sda1.  I have tried both.  This is the exact line I am putting inn "/dev/sda	/media/OSnet	vfat	umask=000	0	0"  Any ideas of what else I could try
[09:48] <ejer> ompaul: I suggest debian then...
[09:48] <ompaul> ejer, so which card is it just in case I actually know anything
[09:48] <alecw1> What is the best recommended "desklets" program that will work without Compiz/Beryl?
[09:49] <magnetron> eipmoc: Please, go ahead and ask your question. if someone knows the solution, they will answer
[09:49] <ejer> ompaul: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GS]  (rev a1) - but you cannot load ANY restricted modules
[09:49] <magnetron> alecw1: gdesklets
[09:49] <DWonderly> ChildX read this thead... -->   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193936v
[09:49] <Alzan> fujin: Do you have installtion instructions for Anjuta?
[09:49] <DWonderly> this might help you a little.
[09:49] <fujin> maestrojed, /dev/sda is the main blocke device, you want /dev/sdaX
[09:49] <alecw1> thanks
[09:49] <fujin> Alzan, apt-get install anjuta && anjuta
[09:50] <ChildX> DWonderly, maybe the value of command_1 should be xmms%
[09:50] <ChildX> huh?
[09:50] <Alzan> fujin: with both amperstands?
[09:50] <ompaul> ejer, hmm, I'll look at that before we do the conversions, (we run X over the wire and so have nice video cards on the servers for tuning desktops etc ..)
[09:50] <fujin> lol
[09:50] <fujin> if you like, yes :] 
[09:50] <hellion0[laptop] > is it possible to do a dist-upgrade by mounting the iso somehow instead of burning to disc?
[09:50] <fujin> that just means, install anjuta and then run it
[09:50] <Alzan> fujin: oh. Okay.
[09:50] <fujin> so, apt-get install anjuta
[09:50] <fujin> and then go through your menus
[09:50] <ejer> ompaul: if you need bigmem support you will have trouble with ubuntu and 3d unfortunately, as well as wireless drivers if need be
[09:51] <ompaul> ejer, na this is an office - so we are looking at stuff like cat5e and the correct switches
[09:51] <maestrojed> fujin: okay well I have done it as /dev/sda1 also and it did not work and I just have no idea why.  I can see the HD if I go to Places>Computer.  But it requires a password
[09:51] <zero-9376> is there any way to change the display of disk drives in nautilus' computer:/// i dont want to see XXXGB voume just the name/label/mount point
[09:51] <Alzan> also, how easy is grub? as in, would you think that your average parent could use it?
[09:52] <hang3r> Can someone recommend a audio player that isn't loosely based of XMMS that has an equalizer? I've been searching for months, now I've finally had it with Audacious and am looking for something new
[09:52] <ompaul> ejer, thanks for the heads up - I must go check out this
[09:52] <fujin> !ntfs
[09:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:52] <eipmoc> someone here to help me out? i am a theacher who want to use ubuntu on laptops in a preschool
[09:52] <ompaul> !edubuntu | eipmoc
[09:52] <ubotu> eipmoc: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[09:52] <booster_614> any one in here use qjoypad  ???
[09:52] <eipmoc> o?
[09:52] <eipmoc> thanks
[09:52] <zero-9376> hang3r: vlc has an equaliser
[09:53] <bit32> hi!!
[09:53] <DWonderly> ChildX when you found your scn code what was the other number next to it?
[09:53] <DWonderly> scan code rather
[09:54] <disinterested> i wish i knew what to do with this new azureus file
[09:56] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to start compiz fusion
[09:56] <linuxawy> sander, compiz --replace
[09:56] <linuxawy> sandy, compiz --replace
[09:57] <ChildX> DWonderly, what other number?
[09:58] <sandy> i am using ubuntu 7.10 when i am starting fusion title bar of all window is going and there are no good effects
[09:58] <ChildX> DWonderly, when i pressed 'music note' button for Music Player in Keyboard Shortcuts, it displayed the scancode 0xed
[09:58] <ChildX> nothing else
[09:58] <DWonderly> okay...
[09:59] <sandy> linuxawy i am using ubuntu 7.10 when i am starting fusion title bar of all window is going and there are no good effects
[09:59] <linuxawy> sandy, did you start emerald?
[09:59] <sandy> no
[09:59] <linuxawy> sandy, after starting fuzion, type emerald --replace
[09:59] <ChildX> Ubuntu 7.10 ???    please wait till it's a non-beta
[09:59] <ChildX> :)
[09:59] <linuxawy> sandy, and tell me what happens
[10:00] <hangthedj> sandy, you should look into finding fusion-icon, also compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:00] <ChildX> compiz-fusion
[10:00] <hangthedj> changes the settings for it.
[10:00] <ChildX> wtf is emerald?
[10:00] <sandy> when i start the fusion the title bar of all windows goes
[10:00] <juanedr> somebody can help me?
[10:01] <ChildX> DWonderly, where are you now?
[10:01] <sandy> there will be no title bar for an window
[10:01] <juanedr> in private room
[10:01] <linuxawy> sandy, even after starting emerald?
[10:01] <linuxawy> ChildX, emerald is a window decorator
[10:01] <ChildX> oh
[10:01] <ChildX> oka<y
[10:01] <hangthedj> sandy, press ALT+F2 and type emerald --replace
[10:01] <ChildX> compiz-fusion is superb
[10:01] <ChildX> compiz-fusion is superior to beryl
[10:02] <ChildX> right?
[10:02] <cofeineSunshine_> it seems like
[10:02] <hangthedj> ChildX, depends on how old your computer is i guess.
[10:02] <sandy> hangthedj, will there be any problem if i use 7.10 ubunut
[10:02] <juanedr> alguien habla espaol?
[10:03] <ChildX> compiz-fusion has more functionalities that beryl
[10:03] <sandy> fusion is not working
[10:03] <Myrtti> !es | juanedr
[10:03] <ubotu> juanedr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:03] <hangthedj> sandy, you should ask these questions in #ubuntu+1 if your using 7.10, but i'm using 7.10 on all my computers and i have no problem
[10:03] <ChildX> sandy, then use beryl
[10:03] <ChildX> :)
[10:03] <ChildX> DWonderly, WHERE ARE YOUUU?!
[10:03] <ompaul> !shout | ChildX
[10:03] <ubotu> ChildX: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:04] <ChildX> how can you color your text?
[10:04] <maestrojed> I have been trying to install a secondary hd.  I partitioned it and now I see it in the Places>File System but I do not have the privileges to do anything to it.  I have been told I may need to "mount" it.  I have tried adding this line to my /etc/fstab "/dev/sda1	/media/OSnet	vfat	umask=000	0	0" but I still don't have access to it (and it is now showing up in the media folder)  Can anyone help me?
[10:04] <ChildX> !color
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about color - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <ompaul> ChildX, that is your client highlighting you cos your nick was used
[10:04] <DWonderly> Sorry Child
[10:05] <ratu_lebah> tdtrtdy
[10:05] <ChildX> DWonderly, oh here you are
[10:05] <ChildX> :)
[10:05] <DWonderly> :) I was researching for you.
[10:05] <ChildX> hehe
[10:05] <ChildX> thanks
[10:05] <ChildX> so any new discovery?
[10:05] <DWonderly> Try this program.
[10:05] <DWonderly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch
[10:05] <ChildX> great
[10:05] <ChildX> thanks man
[10:06] <DWonderly> I just happened across it and i'm going to use it.
[10:06] <ChildX> installing...
[10:06] <ChildX> installed
[10:06] <ChildX> great
[10:07] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed,  why did u put the drive on /media ?
[10:08] <sandy> i am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?
[10:08] <hangthedj> !emerald | sandy
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <hangthedj> !find emerald
[10:08] <ubotu> Found: emerald, emerald-themes, libemeraldengine-dev, libemeraldengine0, xemeraldia
[10:08] <hangthedj> sandy, if its not installed you need to install emerald
[10:09] <hangthedj> then run it by typing emerald --replace
[10:09] <DWonderly> ChildX once you get it its very easy to run.
[10:09] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: I made a typo.  That was suppose to say it is not in media.  What I meant was I added that line to my fstab file which I though would mount the drive and if that happened it would show up in the media folder.  That has now happened
[10:09] <sandy> hangthedj , i am not able to install it
[10:09] <davetarmac_> So... WPA in Feisty - who's got answers? I've managed to get it so that I can actually see the network I'm trying to connect to, but now it won't connect as the guy's network is WPA and I don't think he'd be too chuffed if I go changing it to down to WEP. Any ideas or links?
[10:09] <ChildX> DWonderly, yeah
[10:09] <gvsa123> i can't get gdeklets to stop loading on start up... unchecked it already in sessions... how do i do it?
[10:09] <DWonderly> Let me know if it works.
[10:09] <ChildX> DWonderly, i'm just setting it
[10:09] <hangthedj> sandy, why not?
[10:09] <Bossmanbeta> well that's becuase u specified that as the mount point, at least from what u typed above
[10:09] <juanedr> hii
[10:09] <sam_> hey can someone help me
[10:09] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: that has not happened
 i am not able to update and upgrade the system
[10:09] <hangthedj> sandy, not connected to the internet?
[10:09] <sam_> can someone please help me lol
[10:09] <sandy> ya
[10:10] <Bossmanbeta> was there a reason you wanted it in /media as opposed to /mnt?
 no i am connect to net
 if not i cant chat with you
[10:10] <mypapit> sam_: need help? just explain your problem
[10:10] <hangthedj> sandy, so what does it say when you try to upgrade it or whatever
 one sec
[10:10] <sam_> yeah i do
[10:10] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: Someone else told me to do that and I noticed my other hd and cdroms are listed in media
[10:11] <sam_> how do i pm
[10:11] <Daverocks> !wpa | davetarmac_
[10:11] <ubotu> davetarmac_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:11] <hangthedj> sam_, /msg
[10:11] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: but I don't care I would be happen to get it working
[10:11] <hangthedj> sam_, /msg nick
[10:11] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, ok .. no biggie i gather you see the drive, but jsut can't write to it
 tell me how to stop fusion
[10:12] <gvsa123> i can't get gdeklets to stop loading on start up... unchecked it already in sessions... help please...
[10:12] <DWonderly> ChildX, working for you?
[10:12] <booster_> hey does anyone in here use a game pad when playing games on ubuntu ??
[10:12] <hangthedj> sandy, if you just ran it as compiz --replace, you have to kill the process as root
[10:12] <sam_> whats gamepad
[10:12] <hangthedj> i think.
 how to do it
[10:13] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, try this... sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive
[10:13] <faust__> sam_: young people only know it as a console-style controller.
[10:13] <hangthedj> in a terminal do 'sudo ps ax | grep compiz'
[10:13] <Bossmanbeta> just type your username twice there separated by the :
[10:13] <booster_> a controller ???
[10:13] <DWonderly> like a handhed joystick
[10:13] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: I see the drive if I go to places>File system but If I double click on it it says "Cannot mount drive" before I added that line to /etc/fstab it said something like "the internal drive requires administrative password for security reasons please enter your password"
[10:13] <booster_> yea
[10:13] <DWonderly> looks like a SNES controller
[10:13] <hangthedj> then look at the process number and 'sudo kill (number of process)'
[10:13] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, sounds like just root can touch it, try that cmd
[10:14] <faust__> I haven't even tried getting my gamepad to work in Linux. It would just be wrong.
[10:14] <booster_> lol well i use a USB playstation controller
[10:14] <faust__> It's a microsoft-built monster with mercury gyrosensors. Some dark magig from the 90's :D
[10:14] <booster_> but i need a package to map the buttons to keys
[10:14] <faust__> *magic
[10:14] <DWonderly> try KeyTouch
[10:14] <cofeineSunshine_> maestrojed, try to add this line to fstab: uid=<yours UID>,gid=<yours GID>
[10:14] <cofeineSunshine_> by that device
[10:15] <cofeineSunshine_> it tels to mount using specific owner info
[10:15] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: that drive is not displayed in media.  I think that is the problem
[10:15] <ChildX> DWonderly, where do i have to save my keyboard file?
[10:15] <vinboy> which filesystem should I choose for my data storage partition? (mp3, movies and work (source code files))
[10:15] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, oh...
[10:15] <booster_> KeyTouch.....were cni find it ??
[10:15] <faust__> vinboy, what os's do you have that need access to the drive?
[10:15] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, what cmd again did u put in /etc/fstab?
[10:15] <maestrojed> cofeineSunshine: what is GID
[10:15] <DWonderly> booster sudo apt-get install keytouch keytouch-editor
[10:15] <vinboy> faust__: nothing, just linux
[10:15] <ChildX> booster_, just type: sudo apt-get install keytouch keytouch-editor
[10:15] <faust__> if it's just linux, the answer is easy. Ext3. Always Ext3.
[10:15] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: /dev/sda1	/media/OSnet	vfat	umask=000	0	0
[10:16] <DWonderly> ChildX, I'm not 100% sure.... save it somewhere.
[10:16] <Bossmanbeta> it's a fat32?
[10:16] <ChildX> DWonderly, okay
[10:16] <Tech-Mike> Prob installing ubuntu 7.04 alternate cd 386 ... installs everything except linux-kernal
[10:16] <vinboy> faust__: ext3? any consideration for ZFS, XFS, reiserfs ?
[10:16] <filemover> hi im installing thunderbird in Debian and i want to know it its ok to use the ubuntuzilla script for this. I know it works fine for both Kubuntu and Ubuntu but dont know about Debian
[10:16] <NemesisD> hi all, for some reason my wireless networking is being very difficult, after being online for a few hours it will just die and when i try to start it again i get ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, anyone know whats up with that?
[10:16] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: yes
[10:16] <Flannel> filemover: Why don't you just install it from the repos?
[10:16] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, try this then... /dev/sda1    /media/mynewdrive   vfat    defaults     0        0
[10:17] <faust__> ZFS and XFS i don't have any real experience with. ReiserFS is faster than Ext3 if you have loads of itty bitty files, but if it's mp3's and movies, the file sizes are so big it doesn't really matter anymore.
[10:17] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: okay I am going to reboot
[10:17] <vinboy> faust__: oh ic.. ok.. thanks
[10:17] <faust__> Besides, it's a data storage partition, not a partition that sees heavy and constant read/write. Go for the safe choice.
[10:17] <vinboy> faust__: how about ext4?
[10:17] <faust__> Still not mature enough in my book.
[10:17] <sauvin> And ext3 is so widely and heavily used, it's gotten to be something of a de facto standard.
[10:17] <vinboy> ok
[10:17] <vinboy> thanks
[10:18] <filemover> i could but there is a branding issue with debian and mozilla and i just want to try it out
[10:18] <juanedr> I have a problem =(
[10:18] <filemover> im thinking that there shouldnt be any hassles but I thought Id ask anyway to make sure
[10:18] <_SiLENT_> hellloooo
[10:18] <booster_> ok after install the package were can i find it...or do i need to use terminal to launch the app ??
[10:19] <DWonderly> booster System -> Admin
[10:19] <sandy> hanthedj, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:19] <sandy>   emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed
[10:19] <sandy>            Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
[10:19] <sandy> E: Broken packages
[10:19] <sandy> that is the message
[10:19] <sandy> can anyone help me in install emerald
[10:19] <DWonderly> booster_ if you need help using it try this... -->   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KeyTouch
[10:20] <Flannel> filemover: You just want to install icedove, which is identical to thunderbird in all ways except name/icon.
[10:20] <_SiLENT_> can someone help me tranfer to linux? :) (from winblows
[10:20] <hangthedj> sandy, are you using other repositories for this besides the default ubuntu ones?
[10:20] <Bossmanbeta> sandy, is compiz worth all that effort ? <rheotrical>
 what repositories? i am using only ubuntu
[10:21] <Fatih> hi , i have 32 MB geforce2  mx200, can i use compiz without a problem ?
[10:21] <KalEl> hello again... in the NVidia site, should I download the Linux AMD64 based on the fact that I have an AMD64, or are there any other considerations?
[10:21] <Nido> anyone here experience with nested subversion repositories?
[10:21] <hangthedj> sandy, try 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[10:21] <filemover> yeah i know but i just wanted to see if it worked I should really install icedove
[10:21] <_SiLENT_> I got Windows XP and a 100 of useful applications, everything is smooth and fine, but I still want to use linux than M$ windows
[10:21] <Flannel> Nido: nested?
[10:22] <hangthedj> sandy, i had the same problem you had, but i was using repositories from tuxfamily
[10:22] <KalEl> _SiLENT_: why??
[10:22] <filemover> but icedove is one version behind the official release
[10:22] <Nido> Flannel: yes. /foo is a repository; /foo/bar is another repository
 ya even i am using that only
[10:22] <Flannel> Nido: nested working copies you mean
[10:22] <hangthedj> you are using what only? tuxfamily?
[10:22] <_SiLENT_> KalEl, well I am using illegal software in windows and I thought maybe in linux I won't have to do this
[10:22] <Nido> Flannel: no; different repositories
[10:23] <sauvin> Depends on the nature of the software.
 i am also using tuxfamily repositories
[10:23] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, what do u mean?
[10:23] <Flannel> Nido: Those directories are on your local machine, right?  You did a svn checkout repos1 /foo and svn checkout repos2 /foo/bar
[10:23] <_SiLENT_> can't I get legal with smth like ubuntu? :)
[10:24] <Nido> Flannel: yup; just like that
[10:24] <minimec> Hi folks. Is there a 'gusty' test channel?
[10:24] <sauvin> Some titles you can get for linux are superior to the Windows analogs; others inferior. Many "utilities" for Windows are unneeded in Linux because their functionality either already exists or is easly cobbled.
[10:24] <hangthedj> sandy, get rid of them.  and then update your repository list again, uninstall all compiz stuff, then upgrade then reinstall all compiz stuff. gutsy is not compatibal with tuxfamily
[10:24] <Flannel> Nido: right, those are working copies, not repositories
[10:24] <Flannel> minimec: #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <temjin> hey, quick question about Linux and UTF
[10:24] <minimec> Flannel, THX
[10:24] <sauvin> _SiLENT_, what kinds of apps would you like?
[10:24] <Nido> Flannel: sorry. In that case; nested working copies
[10:24] <temjin> is the  symbol supported?
[10:24] <Flannel> Nido: Anyway, what did you have a question about?
[10:24] <KalEl> my reason for moving to linux is that Vista is a pile of crap
[10:24] <KalEl> though good looking
[10:24] <hangthedj> sandy, in the main ubuntu repositories for gutsy, install compiz-fusion-plugins-main and compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[10:24] <temjin> I know Ubuntu supports UTF, just not sure if that's a private space symbol
[10:24] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, many different, nothing "pro". I'm just a user
[10:25] <sauvin> Give some examples!
[10:25] <eipmoc> KalEl i rest my case
[10:25] <Bossmanbeta> _SiLENT_, if you want to get "legal" then just buy all your windows software and you can spare yourself the mental challenge of using Linux.. either way you're going to pay... for MS you pay money, for linux you pay time and effort.
[10:25] <eipmoc> what a piece of junk vista
[10:25] <KalEl> Aero & DirectX10 is all it has, other than that Vista is laughable
[10:25] <sauvin> I've never seen vista. I thought XP was bad enough.
[10:25] <_SiLENT_> Bossmanbeta, is it THAT hard?
 how to do?
[10:25] <Bossmanbeta> _SiLENT_, the difficulty depends on what you want to do with the OS
[10:25] <sauvin> _SiLENT_, I'm a former Windows user, too.
[10:25] <Nido> Flannel: I've got a few subversion working copies, and I want to subversionise my whole homedir. Does that mean I can just make a repository out of that and everything will go fine and dandy or does it spell trouble with the other repositories
 from where i should install
[10:25] <eipmoc> LOL if you need sound sandy
[10:25] <temjin> anyone?
[10:25] <temjin> ?
[10:26] <Flannel> Nido: You don't really want to put your whole home folder in version control.
[10:26] <hangthedj> sandy, ubuntu
[10:26] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, Audio/Video: listening/editing with average functionality
[10:26] <hangthedj> sandy, gutsy has compiz-fusion in the repositories
[10:26] <Nido> Flannel: eventually yes; I plan not to have any media files etc. in there then
[10:26] <Bossmanbeta> _SiLENT_, if you want to browse the net and listen to mp3's .. it's not that hard. If you want to rip DVD's - that's a bit harder. If you want to create an asterisk "PBX" style server, that's .. well a bit harder.
[10:26] <eipmoc> i cant get sound working further linux is a great OS
[10:26] <Flannel> Nido: what it means is you'll have to add everything *except* those folders to your repository.
[10:26] <Nido> so it will be basically config files and source code
[10:27] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, internet: P2P, browsing, chat, Mesengers
[10:27] <Flannel> Nido: You'll use twice the space though.
[10:27] <gvsa123> help please... still can't get gdesklets to stop loading... it's not checked in sessions already...
[10:27] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, sudo apt-get remove gdesklets
 if i am using apt-get update (Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Got a single header line over 360 chars [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[10:27] <sandy> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[10:27] <sandy> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[10:27] <sandy> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.89.6 80] 
[10:27] <sandy> Reading package lists... Done
[10:27] <sauvin> Internet: Linux is all OVER what you're talking about. With a VENGEANCE. As for video editing, I can't comment but I HAVE seen references to apps for such things.
[10:27] <sandy> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:27] <sandy> )
[10:27] <KalEl> _SiLENT_:  almost all these are pre-installed - or easily installable
[10:27] <Flannel> sandy: Please don't paste here.  Also, gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, not ehre, thanks.
[10:28] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: but that will uninstall it... i just don't want it to load automatically.
[10:28] <Nido> Flannel: I got a few spare GB's. And it'd be handy to sync my homedir between laptop/desktop/uva/whereever and keep a record of it's history
[10:28] <hangthedj> sandy, change all those to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <KalEl> just check out the Ubuntu application repository
[10:28] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, uninstall it, then reinstall it ... that shoudl remove the configs that was autoloading it for you ..
[10:28] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, " With a VENGEANCE" - wht do u mean? (my english = imperfect :))
[10:28] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, or just remove the .config files
[10:29] <Flannel> Nido: alright, well, if you're intent on it, you just don't add ~/foo and ~/foo/bar to your repository, and youll want to put add them to svn ignore, so you don't get messages about them later on, but that's technically not required
[10:29] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: in /home?
[10:29] <sandy> instead of archive to us.ubuntu <hangthedj>
[10:29] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, aye
[10:29] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: That didn't work either.  Now the drive is not showing up in Places>Computer
 i should do it for all the line
[10:29] <_SiLENT_> Bossmanbeta, but isn't there the same hardness in windows? I don't think ""PBX" style server" is easy in Windows
[10:29] <Nido> Flannel: Okay. Thank you for that. I'm gonna think a bit on how I'm going to realise this
[10:29] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, remove the .gdesklets folder
[10:29] <temjin> guys simple question :|
[10:29] <temjin>  = block or clover for you?
[10:29] <Bossmanbeta> maestrojed, i'm out of suggestions, my apologies
[10:30] <DWonderly> clover
[10:30] <Flannel> Nido: Check out the svn book, its online, and a great reference.
[10:30] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: you mean delete?
[10:30] <temjin> DWonderly: great, thanks :)
[10:30] <maestrojed> Bossmanbeta: NP. Thank you for all your help
[10:30] <DWonderly> not a problem temjin
[10:30] <temjin> some reason XP and Vista still don't support that char
[10:30] <Bossmanbeta> _SiLENT_, only you can answer the "difficulty" question. Linux difficulty is unique to the user ... I suggest you get a cheapo box, load up linux and try it... (live cd will be slow and annoying)
[10:30] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: and this should be replaced when i run gdesklets again?
[10:30] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, yes -- you can delete it or rename it ..
[10:31] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, renaming it will also work if you dont want to delete it
[10:31] <_SiLENT_> what is cheapo box?
[10:31] <Bossmanbeta> _SiLENT_, a low cost computer to test linux
[10:31] <sauvin> _SiLENT_, even with the world run amok with Windows and Macintosh users, the majority of the Internet is Unix-powered, I think. Chats, browsing and suchlike come with ubuntu, period. Messenger clients are easily found.
[10:31] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: does this also go for any other .xxx folder in /home? i can safely delete these without harming the system and it's associated application?
[10:31] <gvsa123> *goes
[10:31] <sauvin> And... AND... AND... there *are* things you can do on the Internet with Linux that's tough (or even impossible) to do with Windows.
[10:32] <__pablo__> hello chan
[10:32] <sauvin> Does anybody know if Kerberos and suchlike are available for Windows?
[10:32] <magnetron> yo __pablo__
[10:32] <_SiLENT_> sauvin, what things? and what is kerberos?
[10:32] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, depends on the application .. generally yes you can delete a .folder or just rename it to something like .folderBAK to remove the configs for that application. Once you RErun the app, it will REcreate the folder with default configs
[10:32] <eipmoc> sauvin: butt if you cant get the sound works then it is a
[10:32] <eipmoc> @$@#!
[10:32] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: they are all just config files, that can and will be recreated when i use the application again? that is of course if i don't want to keep any of my settings
[10:32] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, yep
[10:33] <sauvin> My wound worked out of the box, but I do know that *some* machines will have trouble with linux sound :\
[10:33] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, apps usually auto-remake the .folder on the next run
[10:33] <Basalisk> can someone help me get wpa (or even wep) working on my wireless net?
[10:33] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: the generally yes statement suggest i should rename most of the time... lol
[10:33] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, (with default configs)
[10:33] <hellion0[laptop] > yeah, i know mine is.
[10:33] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, in the future a better idea to prevent problems is BACKUP the .config file you going to play with BEFORE making changes
[10:33] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: got it. thanks.
[10:33] <eipmoc> yep, a complete new laptop deliverd white Vista, no on Ubuntu butt no sound
[10:34] <gvsa123> i see
[10:34] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: also a file system related question...
[10:34] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, copy the config file to blah.bak (2nd copy) then play with the real one... if you have a problem, erase the real one and rename the .bak to the original n ame
[10:34] <__pablo__> i have resolved the problem of equalizzation and dynamism on my ubuntu using LADSPA plugin and now my linux box sound very good if somebody desire this solution must use this solution http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=116246.0
[10:34] <juanedr> how I can mount HDs permanently? ...because when I reset my pc, hds are unmount (swap unmounted too)    =(
[10:35] <eipmoc> _pablo_ i take a look
[10:35] <sauvin> All my HDs mount automatically on boot....
[10:35] <Bossmanbeta> juanedr, you must play with the /etc/fstab file ... google "fstab ubuntu"
[10:35] <LazariuS> ntfs HD?
[10:35] <rjs2> is it possible to convert ntfs to ex3 without loosing data?
[10:35] <Bossmanbeta> rjohn, no way
[10:35] <juanedr> swap partition
[10:35] <Bossmanbeta> err rjs2
[10:35] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: if i want to make archives of whatever personal folder i have, and i want it to be kept in a safe place within my system, can i keep it inside directories that are owned by root, so that viruses or whatever security problems will not be able to get to it?
[10:35] <cyberphaz> rj2, i sorta doubt that
 if i change it to us ERR
[10:36] <eipmoc> great __pablo__ italian
[10:36] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, linux doesn't suffer from viruses really ... what's the goal just a backup copy of data? just write them to a USB drive or DVD
[10:36] <sauvin> Yea... why couldn't it be in something more univerally spoken? Like, French or something?
[10:36] <Zemus> sup ubuntu
[10:36] <eipmoc> LOL
[10:37] <eipmoc> dutch
[10:37] <sauvin> French. Only Dutch people speak Dutch.
[10:37] <Shin_Gouki> hello there! i have a "Sound" problem with my Xubuntu , after i messed arround with the desktop pannels, anyone help?
[10:37] <cyberphaz> not true
[10:37] <Zemus> if I want to modprobe -r any modules starting with bcm43xx and having any file extention, how would I do that? Like if I wanted to remove both bcm43xx.ko and bcm43xx.sys in one command, how would I do that?
[10:37] <cyberphaz> half of the belgian puplation also speaks dutch
[10:37] <juanedr> spanish too =D like me
[10:38] <eipmoc> Shin_Gouki join the club
[10:38] <Zemus> Anyone? Anyone at all?
[10:38] <hellion0[laptop] > yeah, lots of us are having "sound" problems tonight... line forms behind me. :P
[10:38] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i understand the immunity (is that absolutely true?) yeah just a backup copy. don't have a large external storage at the moment. largest i have is a cd. just wondering whether this could be possible - using the innate security of the linux file system as protection for personal files
[10:39] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, the proper way to backup is to different media off the server
[10:39] <eipmoc> i think it is a big issue, sound problem
[10:39] <hellion0[laptop] > yep.
[10:39] <eipmoc> alsa just wont work
[10:39] <__pablo__> somebody has tested my config file for alsa?
[10:39] <Zemus> eipmoc, alsa hates your soul :P
[10:39] <hellion0[laptop] > it is when i want to listen to my headphones at night, and the only thing to do that with is the laptop.
[10:39] <eipmoc> Yes
[10:40] <__pablo__> please... give me information about the result
[10:40] <Zemus> if I want to modprobe -r any modules starting with bcm43xx and having any file extention, how would I do that? Like if I wanted to remove both bcm43xx.ko and bcm43xx.sys in one command, how would I do that?
[10:40] <hellion0[laptop] > alsa hates me too.
[10:40] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: but hypothetically, when you keep something within directories owned by root, you keep them safe whenever you are logged in right?
[10:40] <eipmoc> __pablo__ no, is it easy to install
[10:40] <revilodraw> hi, i just plugged my lil cousins ipod into my laptop, it mounted it with a nice little icon, but wont let me past files onto it
[10:40] <sandy> i need help about geetoo
[10:40] <__pablo__> i want write code to simplify the configuration... but i need info on the result!!!
[10:40] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, to modprobe wildcards just use the * character
[10:41] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, how would I impliment that?
[10:41] <eipmoc> i will giff you that
[10:41] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, nothing is safe if you assume a system compromize
[10:41] <Jeroe1> does anybody know where this icon is located on my filesystem? I like it a lot and would like to use it somewhere else, but can't seem to find it (looked for an hour in /usr/share/icons/*): http://image.bayimg.com/magoeaabp.jpg
[10:41] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, modprobe -r foo.*?
[10:41] <br1tva> hi all
[10:41] <Bossmanbeta> comrpmise*
[10:41] <sandy> i need help about geetoo
[10:41] <br1tva> have somo one >CNR instalation ?
[10:41] <eipmoc> no problem
[10:41] <Bossmanbeta> zemd, modprobe -l blah.* should work
[10:41] <hellion0[laptop] > ok, most notably here: supposedly, snd-cs4236 would be the ticket for my system. it doesn't exist. ideas?
[10:41] <revilodraw> hi, i just plugged my lil cousins ipod into my laptop, it mounted it with a nice little icon, but wont let me paste files onto it
[10:41] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, -l is list, not remove :|
[10:41] <hangthedj> Jeroe1, 'find / -name magoeaabp.jpg'?
[10:42] <Bossmanbeta> yes zemd  but * shoudl work regardless of function
[10:42] <Jeroe1> no thats the filename the hosting gives to it
[10:42] <Bossmanbeta> though I haven't tried wildcarding a modproble
[10:42] <Shin_Gouki> hello i have a windows free nx client when i try to conenct today it says: evalutaion time expired..:/ is there a free client too(IMO the server is free)?
[10:42] <hangthedj> Jeroe1, what did you save it as?
[10:42] <sandy> i need help about geetoo
[10:42] <__pablo__> revilodraw: use rhytmbox to paste file into your ipod
[10:42] <hangthedj> sandy, sorry i don't know what geetoo is.
[10:42] <sandy> ok
[10:42] <Zemus> lawl
[10:42] <Zemus> sandy, do you mean gentoo?
[10:43] <Luffare> revilodraw: or try gtkpod
[10:43] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  you MAY have to preface it with \*
[10:43] <Jeroe1> I made a screenshot from it, but i would like to find the .SVG. am using human icon theme
[10:43] <Bossmanbeta> not sure
[10:43] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan driver (intel 4965ag) anyone care to help?
[10:43] <sandy> its is also o.s like ubuntu
[10:43] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, perhaps that's it... this is very odd, I think I'll connect the laptop and then pastebin what I'm seeing
[10:43] <Zemus> one moment
[10:43] <Bossmanbeta> i think \* is the syntax
[10:43] <Bossmanbeta> not sure tho
[10:43] <hangthedj> what did you save the .svg as?
 os gentoo goes well with hardware
[10:44] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: so it can't be that you offer you files "root protection" when you save them in folders owned by root? or chown root /home/whateverfolder
[10:44] <revilodraw> luffare: sweeet will do
[10:44] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, assuming the system is comprmised, the offender would have root access so files with root-only rights would not be safe
[10:44] <Jeroe1> i didn't save it as .svg because i just made a screenshot in .png. I want to find the svg :)
 if i changed it to us (err)
[10:44] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan driver (intel 4965ag) anyone care to help?
[10:44] <eipmoc> __pablo__
[10:44] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, the proper way to back stuff up is get it off the box to something else
[10:45] <hellion0[laptop] > at the very least, to a seperate drive.
[10:45] <Shin_Gouki> hey anyone here who has "free NX" experience?
[10:45] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: but for non-root level compromises, you can offer root protection the way i tried to explain?
[10:45] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan driver (intel 4965ag) anyone care to help?
[10:45] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i agree...
[10:45] <hangthedj> sandy, i was being ignorant, i should have asked what country your in first.
[10:45] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, well... assuming the compromized box did not compromise root, yes -- but that's a super duper hypothetical
 tell me how to install compiz now it got updated
[10:46] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, if you're looking to stop "prying eyes" -- copy the data and encrypt it
 i am in india
[10:46] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: like truecrypt?
[10:46] <hangthedj> sandy, 'sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra'
[10:46] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, yep...
[10:47] <hangthedj> should do it.
[10:47] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan drivers (intel 4965) anyone can help?
[10:47] <hangthedj> sandy, ok i think you want in.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, or gpg
 done
[10:47] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i never got forcefield to work though... nor could i open truecrypt volumes created under winxp
[10:47] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: which is better? can it handle truecrypt volumes?
 after that
[10:47] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: GUI?
[10:48] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, truecrypt is pretty easy to use... gpg is just as good
[10:48] <Bossmanbeta> gpg has gui front ends, but it's a diff program, doesn't read truecrypt volumes
 you said i should have something else also
[10:48] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: gpg can handle truecrypt volumes?
[10:48] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, no
[10:48] <hangthedj> if you don't have fusion-icon installed. hit 'ALT+F2' then in the box type compiz --replace then hit 'ALT+F2' again, and type emerald --replace
[10:48] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan drivers (intel 4965) anyone can help?
[10:48] <Zemus> ok, sorry about that
[10:49] <Zemus> check out this bizarre effect here
[10:49] <hangthedj> you may have to 'sudo apt-get install emerald' though first.
[10:49] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: ah... i wanted something i could use between ubuntu and winxp
[10:49] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, gpg works under windows
[10:49] <Zemus> http://pastebin.com/m71358205
[10:49] <Zemus> Anyone that wants to look at my issue, please, be my guest
[10:49] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: isn't forcefield just a frontend for truecrypt on linux? so it should be able to handle volumes created under xp right?
[10:50] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i see... i'll check out gpg in windows
[10:50] <Bossmanbeta> never tried "forcefield"..
[10:50] <revilodraw> luffare: ok transferred the files onto ipod, but cant see them on there?
[10:50] <pongo> ciao
[10:50] <pongo> !list
[10:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:50] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: just the command line for truec?
[10:50] <__pablo__> pongo: ciao
[10:50] <mypapit> bye pongo ponggong
[10:50] <Shin_Gouki> no one here with free nx experience?
[10:50] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, is that what forcefield is?
[10:51] <sandy> hangthedj>  Couldn't find package emerald
[10:51] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i believe so... ill double check
[10:51] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  that's a good one right there
[10:51] <^Punk> I have a an issue with bash tab completion (fresh install of feisty). It only does tab completion on executable files, whereas I also want to do "mplayer file<TAB>" (so when a file is non-executable). Any ideas?
[10:51] <Luffare> revilodraw: I have just tried it once. And I transfered some files and was able to play them.
[10:51] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, your system seems to need prozac...
[10:52] <hangthedj> sandy, try 'sudo apt-get install libemeraldengine0'
[10:52] <Luffare> revilodraw: so I am by no means a guru of gtkpod :)
[10:52] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, could it be a mislinked chain in ext3? fsck?
[10:52] <Nubbie> Luffare: use banshee :)
[10:52] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I have no idea :|
[10:52] <sandy>  Broken packages
[10:52] <revilodraw> revilodraw !gtkpod
[10:52] <eipmoc> well i doing a new install, till later all bey
 Broken packages
[10:52] <Wikzo> Hi - can anyone help me to get my headset working in Ubuntu 7.04? My laptop got a inbuild mic, but I want to use the mic from the headset. I have tried to use alsamixer, but can't get it working
[10:52] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, wildcarding it won't fix that problem, but that's interesting
[10:52] <hangthedj> Zemus, when i try modprobe -l bcm43xx.* i get nothing, although if i do modprobe -l bcm43* i get bcm43xx.ko
[10:53] <Luffare> revilodraw: try banshe as Nubbie
[10:53] <hangthedj> weird.
[10:53] <revilodraw> luffare: ? what
[10:53] <NemesisD> hi all, for some reason my wireless networking is being very difficult, after being online for a few hours it will just die and when i try to start it again i get ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, anyone know whats up with that?
[10:53] <Luffare> revilodraw: Nubbie wrote: Try banshee..
[10:53] <hangthedj> sandy, try 'sudo apt-get remove emerald*' then 'sudo apt-get install emerald'
[10:53] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, as a goof, try "sudo touch /forcefsck" and then reboot "sudo init 6"
[10:54] <hangthedj> sandy, things might still be leftover from tuxfamily.
[10:54] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, can you tell me what those commands mean and what they do?
[10:54] <hangthedj> sandy, you could also do 'sudo aptitude install -f' and it will tell you what the problem is.
[10:54] <Zemus> also, will it kill this irc session?
[10:54] <Shin_Gouki> nemesisD try coming up with the hardware specs of ur wlan that might help
[10:54] <Nubbie> Zemus: yes you would be restarting.
[10:54] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, the first will force a file systems check on your next reboot (just the next reboot, not subsequent reboots) and "sudo init 6" initiates a reboot immediately
[10:54] <Zemus> *sigh* ok
[10:54] <Zemus> one moment, ten
[10:54] <Zemus> and thank you :)
[10:55] <sandy> Writing extended state information... Done
[10:55] <sandy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:55] <sandy> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? <hangthedj>
[10:55] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, perhaps the filesystem is having a problem
[10:55] <NemesisD> Shin_Gouki, adapter is usb dlink dwl-g132, router is dlink di-624
[10:55] <Zemus> perhaps
[10:55] <Bossmanbeta> no reason it shoudl say it's there then refuse to modxprobe it
[10:55] <__pablo__> i need an italian guy that write in good english to write a translation of one of my post in ubuntu-it forum!! please... help me!!!
[10:55] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: funny. i thought i installed it through synaptics, but it's not there... hmm....
[10:55] <hawk_au> Does anyone know how to add a search to the default interface that will search the file system/documents and emails, not just documents?
[10:55] <hangthedj> sandy, make sure your using sudo, and that no other apt processes are running, like synaptic for example.
[10:55] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, any .deb file installed will show in synaptic
[10:55] <Nubbie> hawk_au: use beagle.
[10:56] <^Punk> surely it must be easy enough to tab complete all files?
[10:56] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: oh i had it with previous installations.. not this one
[10:56] <hawk_au> Nubbie: cheers i will do some research on beagle... thanks
[10:56] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: didn't install it since i couldn't get it to work... :P
[10:56] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, i dont think it will show in synaptic if you compile it from scratch "./configure make make install"
 done apt -f
[10:56] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
 then
[10:56] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, gpg is pretty friendly, and simple..
[10:57] <hangthedj> sandy, did it give any errors?
[10:57] <sandy> sudo aptitude install -f there is no problem <hangthedj>
[10:57] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, it's geared towards public key things, but it does offer Asymmetric encryption (encrypting files with passwods as opposed to public/private keys)
 no errors
[10:57] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i see.. thanks.. checking it out right now...
[10:57] <roachmmflhyr> having trouble installing psc 1310 printer, i have the hpijs driver installed the printer is detected i try to print a test page it doesnt print and under jobs it says Stopped: job-stopped
[10:57] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, gpg MAY need cygwin...
[10:58] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: it's commandline?
[10:58] <BernieMac> my ubuntu will freeze on boot if I shut down with my wireless card enabled. Otherwise my wireless works fine. Running an Intel 3945 in a Dell Latitude D520. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[10:58] <roachmmflhyr> i have even tried restarting and reinstalling
[10:58] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, it has a gui - but under windows I donno .. it may need cygwin for win32
[10:58] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: with frontends
[10:58] <lokki> why epiphany isn't the default browser on ubuntu ?
[10:58] <hangthedj> well if trying to install emerald give broken packages, it usually means things aren't compatible with the version of emerald in the apt-cache.
[10:58] <lokki> firefox sucks...
[10:59] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: hmmm... i'm kinda satisfied with true on win. maybe better for me to learn to use true via commandline in ubuntu
 but while installing apt-get install emerald
[10:59] <sandy>  (The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:59] <sandy>   emerald: Depends: libemeraldengine0 but it is not going to be installed
[10:59] <sandy>            Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
[10:59] <sandy> E: Broken packages
[10:59] <artur_> hello everybody
[10:59] <hangthedj> sandy, did you remove the tuxfamily stuff from /etc/sources.list and sudo apt-get update?
[10:59] <sandy> i removed them
[10:59] <xsteelwolf> I can't install my wlan drivers (intel 4965) anyone can help?
[11:00] <chal> hi
[11:00] <hangthedj> maybe you need to sudo apt-get autoclean, to get rid of the tuxfamily packages
[11:00] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, how many files you thinking of encryopting
[11:00] <Zemus> Great :)
[11:00] <Zemus> It did find and fix some problems in the root file system. I'm going to try it again now.
[11:00] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, what happeend
[11:00] <revilodraw> how do i mount an ipod with full write permissions
[11:00] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, yay!
[11:00] <NemesisD> xsteelwolf, what have you done so far
[11:00] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, good job :D
[11:00] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: right now i have 150MB of encrypted data from xp
[11:00] <hangthedj> sandy, sorry, i'm just not the compiz master, you could try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[11:00] <sandy> ok
[11:00] <xsteelwolf> i followed zonton guide and the guide on ubuntu wiki
[11:01] <xsteelwolf> none work
[11:01] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, it may or may not be fixed, but now that you did a fsck, you may have re download that module... it COULD be corrupted
[11:01] <hangthedj> those guys and gals are pretty smart with this stuff.
[11:01] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, hmm 150megs.. you mounting that data from linux?
[11:01] <revilodraw> tasmaniac: funny name, im in victoria
[11:01] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, ok
[11:01] <h1st0> sandy: whos repo are you using?
[11:01] <sandy> anyway thanks for helping <hangthedj>
[11:01] <hangthedj> sorry i couldn't be more help
[11:01] <rjs2> sandy what are you trying to do
[11:01] <Tasmaniac> revilodraw, should be obvious where I am then :)
[11:01] <hangthedj> sandy, just remember gutsy doesn't work with tuxfamily repositories.
[11:02] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: never got to access it in linux. but the volume is backed up here.
[11:02] <sandy>  tuxfamily stuf <h1st0>
[11:02] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
[11:02] <revilodraw> Tasmaniac: i can guess
[11:02] <h1st0> sandy: are you running gusty?
[11:02] <Zemus> ah, it seems the exact same problem is going on
 ya
[11:02] <Zemus> it lists it, then when I try to remove it, it says it doesn't exist :(
[11:02] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, one option is this.............. use windows and trucrypt under windows... then open the data from windows to a drive letter with trucrypt-windows... then SHARE that truecrypt drive letter, then mount it from linux
[11:02] <revilodraw> how do i mount an ipod with full write permissions ?
[11:02] <h1st0> sandy: why are you even bothering with a seperate repo then gusty has compiz fusion installed by default.
 i need compiz fusion
[11:02] <Polygon89> I need help setting up my grub menu to boot windows 2000, i think i have the right partiton (hd0,0) but it keeps saying 'disk read error press ctrl+alt+del to restart', and hd0,1 and hd0,2 say unrecognized executable format or something.. any help?
[11:02] <BernieMac> !patience | revilodraw
[11:02] <ubotu> revilodraw: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:03] <h1st0> sandy: Gusty is the development release it runs compiz fusion when desktop effects are enabled.
[11:03] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: via a network? but the data never goes to linux end?
 how to install it the
[11:03] <rjs2> for fiesty sandy?
[11:03] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, mount via "mount -f cifs //win32.ip.address/sharename /local/linux/path -o username=administrator,uid=linux-username"
[11:03] <h1st0> sandy: no need to add an additional repo.  Remove the tux family repo and just installed emerald from the normal repos.
[11:03] <hangthedj> 2:00am, sleep happens now.
[11:03] <revilodraw> BernieMac: wow, thanks, this is my first time on here, and i need all the advice  i can get! u r so generous
[11:03] <Tasmaniac> How can I print from ubuntu server to xp desktop (ie the printer is on the xp usb and I want to print from the server (no desktop))
[11:03] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: cifs?
 ya done
[11:03] <h1st0> sandy: do you know what Gusty is?
[11:03] <Zemus> BernieMac, I believe he only asked once, at least in the past few minutes :|
[11:03] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i'll just man it
[11:03] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: lol
[11:04] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, if you share the windows drive (the truecrypt drive once you enter the password in windows, it will open the encrypted partition to a drive letter) then share it so you can mount it from linux..
[11:04] <rjs2> sandy are you on fiesty
 ya ubuntu 7.10
[11:04] <Tasmaniac> Oh can IP4200 if that matters
[11:04] <BernieMac> Zemus, I saw 2 in the last 4 min tops
[11:04] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, you could use smbfs, but thats suhLOW
[11:04] <Tasmaniac> can=canon
[11:04] <Zemus> BernieMac, fair enough
[11:04] <revilodraw> BernieMac: who cares...
[11:04] <sandy> rjs2 , i am no gusty
[11:04] <BernieMac> I apologize if it was uncalled for
[11:04] <Zemus> BernieMac, no worries ;)
[11:04] <chal> need to know what this command means and how to apply it http://pastebin.ca/699346
[11:04] <Zemus> BernieMac, we all like our brownie points, I think
[11:04] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, cifs = common internet filesystem .. bill gates was kind enough to allow the windows kernel to understand that... linux has supported that for some time
[11:04] <BernieMac> revilodraw, if no one answered the first time nothing probably changed in the last 5 minutes
[11:04] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: samba? i got it to work faster by adding the ip in /etc/hosts i think
[11:04] <NemesisD> what does link is not ready indicate when trying to ifup a wireless interface
[11:04] <Polygon89> I need help setting up my grub menu to boot windows 2000, i think i have the right partiton (hd0,0) but it keeps saying 'disk read error press ctrl+alt+del to restart', and hd0,1 and hd0,2 say unrecognized executable format or something.. any help?
 what i update the system the error message is (E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:05] <BernieMac> Zemus, haha yeah I like brownie points, but I like an unspammed chat more...
[11:05] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i see
[11:05] <revilodraw> BernieMac: its all good... i wasnt spamming
[11:05] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, dont let the samba thing confuse what i'm suggesting
[11:05] <lokki> spread epiphany browser !
[11:05] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, let windows encrypt it and present the drive letter, you just mount it from linux as a remote resource
[11:05] <Zemus> BernieMac, his question: two lines. Your reprimand: Three lines. This discussion: Too many lines. xD
[11:05] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123,  you just have to enter the passwd and open the encrypted partition up prior to mounting from linux
[11:06] <BernieMac> Zemus, truth, I digress. off I go for more sopranos. carry on!
[11:06] <chal> for example what does  diff -ru mean
 tell me what to do
[11:06] <h1st0> sandy: ughhh probably because you have the other repos there can you paste bin your sources.list
[11:06] <Bossmanbeta> I'm amazed this channel is so busy at 5am on a sunday morning... it feeds my insomnia quite nicely <munch munch>
[11:06] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: i see... or i can just keep the encrypted volume in my samba share as it is recognized already in ubuntu
[11:06] <therpandrus> hehehe
[11:06] <therpandrus> so many insomniacs
[11:07] <^Punk> and eurotrash ;)
[11:07] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: different question again...
[11:07] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, yes .. the idea is, truecrypt presents the encrypted volume as a regular windows drive once you enter the passwd, that means Linux can mount it like any other drive... this will allow you to keep 1 point for encrypted data that would be accesible by both Winblows and Linux
[11:08] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: which among the third party software sources should ideally be ticked?
[11:08] <h1st0> sandy: also gusty talk is in #ubuntu+1
[11:08] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, i tick them all
[11:08] <Polygon89> I need help setting up my grub menu to boot windows 2000, i think i have the right partiton (hd0,0) but it keeps saying 'disk read error press ctrl+alt+del to restart', and hd0,1 and hd0,2 say unrecognized executable format or something.. any help?
[11:09] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, well i dont have medibuntu checked...
[11:09] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: hehe
[11:09] <__pablo___> miseria disgraziata sono rimasto appesa
[11:09] <__pablo___> appeso
[11:09] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, i mean medibuntu source code
[11:09] <Myrtti> !it | __pablo__
[11:09] <ubotu> __pablo__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:09] <sandy> h1st0> i am sending the file to you see it
[11:09] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: even important security updates (source code)?
[11:09] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, there's no harm in ticking them all
[11:09] <chal> Bossmanbeta: i agree it mounts it but you cannot enter the password in linux for a windows TC voulume
[11:10] <Bossmanbeta> afk a min
[11:10] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: what are those with a (source code) beside anyway? i mean how different are they from the "normal"?
[11:10] <KalEl> hi, i'm supposed to install xserver from here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/keescook/ubuntu/
[11:10] <KalEl> can anybody please tell me how?
[11:11] <KalEl> it is because of this bug which causes nvidia driver to malfunction for 8xxx series: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/130325
[11:11] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: but with having the unsupported parts ticked, you run the risk of installing updates that haven't been double checked to not cause problems? is that a fair assumption?
[11:12] <Bossmanbeta> back
[11:12] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, i wouldn't worry about unsupported 3rd party things
[11:13] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, that's just to keep cannonical out of harm's way
[11:13] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: lol
[11:13] <Zemus> What's the difference between init 6 and shutdown -r now?
[11:13] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, the # of letters i have to type
[11:14] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, is that seriously the only difference? :|
[11:14] <Bossmanbeta> ..when you type as much as I do .. anything to save the numb fingertips = blessing
[11:14] <Bossmanbeta> Linux has 6 runlevels .. 0 through 6
[11:14] <Zemus> ok, but I'm inquiring as to the technical difference
[11:14] <Zemus> ok, go on :D
[11:14] <Bossmanbeta> standard running level = level 5
[11:14] <Bossmanbeta> level 6 = reboot
[11:15] <Bossmanbeta> level 7 = level 5 + 6 Cafe grande's with espresso shots
[11:15] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, yea ... no difference
[11:16] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  did you notice that in buntu Shutdown is now missing the -F option? I found that amazing
[11:16] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  normally you can do shutdown -r -F to force an FSCK on reboot... but no that's gone
[11:16] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, bummer. Can you give me a link describing the differences and purposes of run levels?
[11:16] <Pirate_Hunter> trying to update Clamav virus definition but it says i need to be root, what do i do to gain root access?
[11:17] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, I was reading around the net and I think that was a flub-up on cannonical's part... so now I do touch /forcefsck
[11:17] <jiddo> For some reason my screen goes black for ~2-3 second and then back to normal at random times. Does anyone have any idea on what could be wrong?
[11:17] <Bossmanbeta> Linux runlevels: http://www.linux.com/articles/114107
[11:18] <Bossmanbeta> to force an fsck on any next reboot you simply have to place a file named "forcefsck" in the root /
[11:18] <Bossmanbeta> "touch forcefsck" does that quickly enough
[11:18] <Bossmanbeta> but it's annoying I should have to do that instead of shutdown -rF
[11:19] <Pirate_Hunter> trying to update Clamav virus definition but it says i need to be root, what do i do to gain root access?
[11:19] <gvsa123> Bossmanbeta: hey thanks a lot... gotta go..
[11:19] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, type "su"
[11:19] <Bossmanbeta> gvsa123, take care
[11:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: im running Clamav from GUI not terminal/command line
[11:20] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, i dont run clamAV so you muight want to check their docs... but it sounds like the application has improper rights to execute
[11:21] <NemesisD> UGH, iwconfig keeps showing access point as not associated but its clearly associated in my interfaces file
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta yeah thats what im thinking as well and check this out - su gives me this junk: su
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Password:
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> su: Authentication failure
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Sorry.
[11:21] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, try this
[11:22] <Bossmanbeta> "sudo passwd root" then enter the passwd you want root to have
[11:22] <jiddo> For some reason my screen goes black for ~2-3 second and then back to normal at random times. It seems to happen mostly when working in Netbeans or whenever some firefox windows are semi-offscreen. I really need help solving this!
[11:22] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: i already have root passw i just want to gain access to it
[11:23] <Bossmanbeta> well if the passwd you'er entering gives you that error, you DONT have the root passwd
[11:23] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
[11:23] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: that is weird but than if i didnt i wouldnt be bale to do updates and so on
[11:24] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, all things being = I would agree ... but if the passwd you enter when you type "su" gives you that error, logic would imply you don't have the root passwd
[11:25] <jacobat> Are you not using your own password to sudo when doing updates?
[11:25] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: true but i wont mess with it cause I think clamav just got badly installed from synaptic especially since it game me the error about dependencies and it was going to leave it uncorfigured
[11:26] <Bossmanbeta> clamav to me is like putting up an umbrella on a sunny day
[11:26] <cyberphaz> if you got a busy mailserver its nothing over the top
[11:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: what would you suggest than as an alternative
[11:26] <Bossmanbeta> i use appliances for spam and viruses for mail servers... <shrug>
[11:27] <NemesisD> can anyone help, iwconfig is saying my access point is not-associated regardless of what i try and dmesg keeps saying wlan0: link is not ready as a result
[11:27] <Bossmanbeta> well as cyberphaz says... it's appropriate if using it for a mail server
[11:27] <vinboy> how do I remove my raid on dmraid?
[11:28] <dvankeu> Hi all, I just started using ubuntu and I cannot figure out how to get my screen resolution higher than 1024x768, any ideas?
[11:28] <Argazm> hi folks...  Is their a way to fix the mplayer/mencoder noises during encoding in ubuntu ???  there's supposidly a bug in the package...
[11:28] <wilhart> hello friends, can i install KDE4 Beta 2 on Feisty ?
[11:28] <Bossmanbeta> dv5237, you need to modify your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[11:28] <Bossmanbeta> but make a backup of it before you do
[11:28] <wilhart> or do i have to upgrade to Gutsy
[11:28] <macd> willdev, goto kubuntu.org instructions on front page
[11:28] <Pirate_Hunter> dont try to upgrade to gutsy until its properly released
[11:29] <willdev> ?
[11:29] <Pirate_Hunter> wilhart: other than that i cnat help you
[11:29] <chal> whats the line in apt sources to packages from source?
[11:30] <macd> chal, deb-src rather than just deb
[11:30] <h1st0> chal: apt-get source
[11:30] <h1st0> ?
[11:30] <macd> chal, so you need both deb and deb-src
[11:31] <chal> macd: is that from all available sources
[11:31] <macd> yes
[11:31] <h1st0> chal: you can apt-get source --download-only
[11:31] <h1st0> chal: you can apt-get source <packagename> --download-only
[11:31] <h1st0> chal: err the option needs to go earlier I believe
[11:31] <macd> that will download them, but make sure to make the src repos available
[11:32] <h1st0> Also you can just man apt-get to get this info
[11:32] <h1st0> willdev: sure
[11:32] <h1st0> willdev: you can install anything you want.
[11:32] <chal> macd sorry so what would the whole line look like
[11:32] <macd> chal, the same as the deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> who can help me give clamav the correct user privilege? "at the moment it only accepts root"
[11:33] <macd> Pirate_Hunter, run it sudo.
[11:33] <michael__> champ
[11:33] <Bossmanbeta> welcome back Zemus
[11:33] <Zemus> man, you guys, this is really messed up
[11:33] <Zemus> is there anyone that can take dedicated time out to really help me on my ndiswrapper issues?
[11:33] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: if you want your user to be able to run it you need to add yourself to the group if its there.  Or create  clamav group.
[11:33] <chalcedony> chal could i message you for a moment?
[11:33] <h1st0> !ask | Zemus
[11:33] <ubotu> Zemus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:34] <chal> ok fire away
[11:34] <h1st0> Zemus: also what type of card are you using you may not need ndiswrapper?
[11:34] <wilhart> Ensure feisty-backports is enabled or you are running gutsy.
[11:34] <Zemus> ok, let me pastebin my issue...
[11:34] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: thats easier said than done, i dont know how to & i dont even know where clamav got installed to... i have no clue where programs get installed in from synaptic
[11:35] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[11:35] <Zemus> h1st0, I've researched it, I do indeed need ndiswrapper.
[11:35] <Bossmanbeta> zemus this is the same modprobe issue right
[11:35] <Zemus> h1st0, also, I've gotten it to work before, but I can't seem to now that I've reinstalled.
[11:35] <macd> Pirate_Hunter, 'which command" will find them, such as "which clamav"
[11:35] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, yeah, but it's gotten more complex
[11:35] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: well to run an application as root you can just use sudo.
[11:35] <Bossmanbeta> zemus oh .. joy
[11:35] <h1st0> Zemus: What type of card is it.
[11:35] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, wlan0 is not showing up ... hahahaha, yes indeed. Is not showing up under dmesg :P
[11:35] <Ar_Pharazon> hello
[11:35] <Bossmanbeta> well fsck was definitely part of that... you had all sorts of issues there, hopefully resolved
[11:36] <h1st0> Zemus: and whats the issue i'm going for a spoke but i'll read your answer in a minute
[11:36] <Zemus> h1st0, 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:36] <Ar_Pharazon> I have windows xp and ubuntu connected with a crossover cat5. I can ping both ways but I can't share files. Can anyone help please?
[11:36] <Bossmanbeta> broadcom, yay... <bob's wifi fish-n-chips>
[11:36] <Zemus> h1st0, it's actually rather well known for needing ndiswrapper. It is the card used in most generic examples :P It's also built into the laptop.
[11:36] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: just tried sudo: clamav the command is not found as a response... whats the command to get clamav to come up from terminal?
[11:36] <__pablo___> ciao a tutti io vado.. smack smack!!!
[11:36] <chal> macd: what url can i use to see whats in the source dep
[11:37] <Pirate_Hunter> macd: didnt get what you wrote
[11:37] <macd> chal, url for the source dep?
[11:37] <chal> yep
[11:37] <macd> Pirate_Hunter, to find the path for clamav type 'which clamav' then use sude to run that 'sudo /path/to/clamav'
[11:37] <macd> chal, I dont know what you mean url for source dep
[11:37] <Pirate_Hunter> kk got it now
[11:38] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, have you read up on the mount command?
[11:38] <chal> ok its a url that tells you a list of packges available in ubuntu i know it but lost it
[11:38] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta First time I hear of the mount command
[11:38] <macd> chal, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, you sort out the wifi problem?
[11:39] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, also, have you went into System --> Administration --> Sharing
[11:39] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent Yes... The problem was that I'm too close to the router... =/ Damn I feel stupid.
[11:39] <GIn> how do you use a blankpassword for the keyring or allow all application to access the keyring without asking for password?
[11:39] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, so the password issue also sorted then?
[11:40] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, the general syntax for windows mounts would be "mount -t cifs //ip.of.windows.box/sharename /local/linux/empty/directory -o username=windows_username,uid=linux-non-root-login
[11:40] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent: I'll fix it using the iste you gave me, thanks
[11:40] <Bossmanbeta> ..for example "mount -t cifs //192.168.1.15/c$ /home/bubba/share1 -o username=administrator,uid=bubba"
[11:40] <macd> GIn, Im not sure that you cant tbh, have you searched the forums?
[11:41] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: locate clamav
[11:41] <Bossmanbeta> but you'd need to apt-get install smbfs first
[11:41] <GreyWolfe> Hi, can anyone point me in the right direction to finding out the manufacturer of my motherboard? I want to update my BIOS but I need to know the manufacturer first.
[11:41] <Ar_Pharazon> macd: Do you mean shared folders? What should I see there?
[11:41] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, can you browse your computer.   system/places/computer ?
[11:41] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: will show you where its at or which clamav it may be clam-av or some variant.  Or you could try apropos anitvirus
[11:41] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, can you browse your computer.   \places/computer ?
[11:42] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent: Yes, I can
[11:42] <h1st0> Zemus: you don't need ndiswrapper for that card you just need the firmware for it.
[11:42] <h1st0> Zemus: but either way will work what problem are you having with ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: sorry but yeha its kl, clamav cnat be located but i can run sudo: clamtk (which is the frontend) and it runs as root also my virus definitions were up to date "that is amazing cause last time they werent i guess repo got updated
[11:42] <macd> You should add the ones you want to share from linux-->windows, and verify the workgroup is the same as windows in the General Properties tab
[11:43] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, or just type a command with the syntax above :)
[11:43] <chal> macd ok thanks the files i need are in universe
[11:43] <Zemus> h1st0, almost done pastbinning, one moment
[11:43] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, do you see a drive called windows?
[11:43] <h1st0> GreyWolfe: You'd prolly have to pop the case open and look for some identifying marks on the board.  What type of pc is it custom built?
[11:44] <MeRodent> Ar_Pharazon, or xxx.x GB volume?
[11:44] <dirtyhand> How can I active the root account? so that I can ssh into it?
[11:44] <GreyWolfe> h1st0: It is an HP a1420n
[11:44] <macd> !root | dirtyhand
[11:44] <ubotu> dirtyhand: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:44] <[nrx] > dirtyhand: you don't need a root account
[11:44] <ihouge> Just use Sudo
[11:44] <Ar_Pharazon> MeRodent No, just the cd/rom drive and "filesystem". I can see "windows network" in places->network, but that is empty. It used to contain stuff my winxp pc shared.
[11:44] <h1st0> GreyWolfe: ahh well if you just search on HPs site they will have a bios upgrade by model.  Are you sure you need one though?
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> hi there i have a ppd file, which i have to run with CUPS, how do i do this?
[11:44] <[nrx] > ...and why on earth would you ever want to ssh -l root? :o
[11:44] <ram__> hello
[11:45] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, did you check the workgroup in the location I mentioned?
[11:45] <dirtyhand> I'm trying to use MacFuse to edit remote files in TextEdtit (Mac), but it keeps failing because it needs the sudo command to write to the file
[11:45] <GreyWolfe> I am getting error 18 when I run GRUB, updating the BIOS is the most common answer I have found when I search for solutions online.
[11:45] <Pirate_Hunter> since im here i just got an interesting question how do you remove a program and all the dependencies that got installed with it? Cause if i install a program from synaptic and choose to completely remove it afterwards the dependencies dont get uninsulated only the actual program... now you can understand how that can be annoying
[11:45] <JDStone> I need Macbook Pro V3 nVidia Drivers NOW!  This is SPARTA!
[11:45] <ihouge> if you really need root login, please click admin->loginwindow->securitty. and enable remote administrator user login.....
[11:45] <macd> Pirate_Hunter, typically you can use 'apt-get autoremove' to clean those up after.
[11:46] <Ar_Pharazon> macd: Where was that? Sorry, I have to use mirc and it's impossible to notice any response unless my nick is mentioned.
[11:46] <dirtyhand> ihouge: I have ubuntu server with no X installed
[11:46] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: if you remove the program it should remove the depends or you can run apt-get autoremove to get rid of stuff left over.
[11:46] <macd> You should add the ones you want to share from linux-->windows, and verify the workgroup is the same as windows in the General Properties tab
[11:46] <Bossmanbeta> Shin_Gouki, to print a ppd file with cups: http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:9mqhpISxZ7IJ:www.linux-mag.com/id/1607/+ppd+file+run+cups&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[11:47] <Pirate_Hunter> macd: (-_-") such a function existed i didnt know that... dang would it still work to unnistall dependencies that belonged to Aegis?
[11:47] <macd> dirtyhand, then edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and uncomment PermitRootLogin
[11:47] <h1st0> dirtyhand: sudo su then you can set a root password are you sure you want to.
[11:47] <ihouge> sudo apt-get install desktop
[11:47] <macd> ihouge, thats ubsurd hes running server not desktop, installing X wastes resources, as well as inherent security risks
[11:48] <dirtyhand> ya
[11:48] <dirtyhand> im gonna do the permitrootlogin thing
[11:48] <Shin_Gouki> thx bossmanbeta
[11:48] <ihouge> yes. I see
[11:48] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: where do i find autoremove, the option is not available on mine "at least thats what my screen shows"
[11:48] <ihouge> but if some body need it,
[11:48] <Bossmanbeta> Shin_Gouki, sure... (googling "how to print ppd files with cups" yields amazing results...)
[11:48] <ihouge> we can still install X for server ...
[11:48] <macd> dirtyhand, then you need to 'sudo su' as h1sto said and type passwd to set a password for root make it strong.
[11:49] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:49] <macd> ihouge, thats bad practice, there is no reason for that on server.
[11:49] <ihouge> we suggest keep Server as if default setting, just use remote shell login control it...
[11:49] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta I did the mount command... What is it supposed to do?
[11:49] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: no wonder i couldnt find it, yeha give me a sec
[11:49] <h1st0> ihouge: theres never a need for X everything can be done in shell.
[11:50] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, it mounts the windows share to a local directory
[11:50] <Zemus> ok, here it is
[11:50] <h1st0> Ar_Pharazon: mount drives
[11:50] <Zemus> http://pastebin.com/m74fa5182
[11:50] <Zemus> h1st0, Bossmanbeta, http://pastebin.com/m74fa5182
[11:50] <dirtyhand> macd / h1st0 : I typed 'sudo su' and nothing happened
[11:50] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, what you werent told was, sudo mount -t smbfs IP://remote/machine/windows/share /path/to/mount/locally
[11:50] <Bossmanbeta> you can put that a command into a text file then chmod 700 to execute it quickly for later use or put a command in fstab
[11:50] <h1st0> dirtyhand: what are you trying to do get a root account?
[11:50] <macd> dirtyhand, type whoami and verify you are root
[11:51] <Bossmanbeta> macd, I gave him the similar syntac about 40 lines up
[11:51] <Bossmanbeta> syntax*
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: nice it just unninstalled things that werent needed anymore thats so cool
[11:51] <h1st0> Zemus: first problem would be rmmod bcm43xx
[11:51] <dirtyhand> root
[11:51] <h1st0> Pirate_Hunter: you can also sudo apt-get autoclean to get rid of some archived packages that are taking up space.
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: so i have to run that every time i want to clean up dependecies not used anymore than?
[11:51] <xsteelwolf> anyone using a 4965ag intel driver here?
[11:51] <dirtyhand> ok i set the pwd
[11:51] <h1st0> Zemus: not bcm43xx.ko
[11:51] <macd> Zemus, do you have bcm43xx-fwcutter installed? you can verify this in a shell by typing 'sudo dkpg -l bcm43xx*'
[11:51] <Zemus> h1st0, rmmod and modprobe -r are virtually the same, you can verify that via "man rmmode"
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: kl
[11:52] <Zemus> macd, I'll check, though I don't believe I do
[11:52] <Ar_Pharazon> macd I did that too, but the local path is still empty. By the way, the command gives me usage notes... Is that what it should do?
[11:52] <macd> dirtyhand, now you need to edit the sshd_config to PermitRootLogin (but again this is not needed you can sudo to act as root anytime and its much more secure)
[11:52] <Zemus> macd, no packages found matching bcm43xx*
[11:52] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, 'man mount'
[11:52] <nazgul> morning. want to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1 by default on boot. uncommented "net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf but it does not work on boot.
[11:52] <xsteelwolf> anyone using a 4965ag intel driver here?
[11:52] <macd> Zemus, then you havent installed it yet, from console "sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter'
[11:52] <h1st0> Zemus: yes but you are saying bcm43xx.ko instead of bcm43xx which is the module you are trying to remove
[11:52] <h1st0> macd: no
[11:52] <[nrx] > switching to root and activating PermitRootLogin is kinda against the whole point of ubuntu... :S
[11:53] <freepenguin> excuse me the platitude: In which state is situated New York city? new jersey ?
[11:53] <Bossmanbeta> the IP:/path I dont think works when moutning via smbfs, you need to put the ip in after the //
[11:53] <Pirate_Hunter> h1st0: thanx those are goign to come in handy... learnt somethign new
[11:53] <Zemus> macd, what is that package and why do I need it? Thanks for the help, btw
[11:53] <nazgul> fredddy: maps.google.com
[11:53] <nazgul> freepenguin: : maps.google.com
[11:53] <h1st0> Zemus: thats if you want to use the firmware instead of using ndiswrapper
[11:53] <h1st0> Zemus: type in sudo rmmod bcm43xx
[11:53] <xsteelwolf> anyone using a 4965ag intel driver here?
[11:53] <macd> Zemus, it contains the packages neccesary to make your wireless card work properly including the required firmware.
[11:54] <dmc68> got a radeon x1650 and was wondering if ubuntu has a driver for it
[11:54] <xsteelwolf> how do i remove old linux kernel so it doesn't show up on grubt boot loader
[11:54] <macd> NDISWRAPPER is considered a last resort imho.
[11:54] <Zemus> h1st0, it produces the same result... I'll pastebin it for you, so you can verify.
[11:54] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: use synaptic
[11:54] <xsteelwolf> ndiswrapper doesn't work for my intel driver
[11:54] <xsteelwolf> gksudo synaptic?
[11:54] <h1st0> Zemus: then the bcm43xx module isnt' loaded did you blacklist it?
[11:54] <Zemus> h1st0, http://pastebin.com/m293518e6
[11:54] <macd> xsteelwolf, have you searched the forums I see several hits for your chipset
[11:54] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: aye
[11:54] <h1st0> Zemus: lsmod | grep bcm
[11:54] <xsteelwolf> intel chipset?
[11:55] <xsteelwolf> i tried all the method, all doesn't work at all
[11:55] <macd> yes, search them, youll see clear instructions :)
[11:55] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
[11:55] <xsteelwolf> where under synpatic can i delete the old kernel ?
[11:55] <Zemus> h1st0, "lsmod | grep bcm" produces no results. I don't know how to blacklist, nor what that entails, so perhaps I've done it by accident?
[11:55] <h1st0> Zemus: it worked just fine.
[11:55] <xsteelwolf> macd,i tried every single instruction ,zalton methods and ndiswrapper
[11:55] <xsteelwolf> both doesn't work
[11:55] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: please address me with nazgul: so your messages are hightlighted to me
[11:55] <Ar_Pharazon> macd: What am I looking for in man mount?
[11:56] <Bossmanbeta> xsteelwolf, just modify the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:56] <xsteelwolf> where under synpatic can i delete the old kernel ?
[11:56] <h1st0> Zemus: the bcm43xx module is no longer loaded.  To keep it from loading you will have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add bcm43xx to the list.
[11:56] <Bossmanbeta> xsteelwolf, no need to delete it just remove it from the boot menu
[11:56] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, before any of this will work did you make sure and verify your workgroup? then navigate to  Network to browse?
[11:56] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: search for "linux-image"
[11:56] <xsteelwolf> having 2 different kernels meaning 2 different installations? and that takes up additional space?
[11:56] <GreyWolfe> Can anyone tell me how to restore the Windows MBR instead of using GRUB?
[11:56] <sams> hello
[11:56] <Zemus> h1st0, fascinating... do you think I need to blacklist it to make sure ndiswrapper is loading bcmwl5a?
[11:56] <h1st0> Zemus: then you can continue with the ndiswrapper setup; althouh, like macd and I suggested you DON't need ndiswrapper.   You can just installt he firmware package and your card will work.
[11:57] <h1st0> Zemus: but its up to you.
[11:57] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, just boot into a windows repair and type fixbmr
[11:57] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: you can find the boot menu in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:57] <sams> i want to play mpeg and wav files plz guide me how i can play them
[11:57] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, recovery console I mean
[11:57] <Zemus> h1st0, if it's ok, I think I'll attempt to make ndiswrapper work, just so I learn how to do it should I need to in the future, and then afterwards I can attempt to do it via the firmware. One fix at a time, eh? :)
[11:57] <GIn> how to switch from kdm to gdm?
[11:57] <MartinW> What is the keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces? I'm very new to ubuntu.
[11:57] <h1st0> Zemus: Yes if you are going to use ndiswrapper you need to black list the bcm43xx module because that will cause issues if they are both loading.
[11:57] <Bossmanbeta> GreyWolfe, you need to load the windows boot CD and run a recovery console then run from that cmd prompt "fixmbr"
[11:57] <koudelka_> xsteelwolf: well it means you have two kernels, but they don't take much space
[11:57] <Zemus> MartinW, ctrl + alt + left / right
[11:57] <ihouge> sams, just use the Mplayer
[11:57] <Bossmanbeta> GreyWolfe, but once you do that you won't be able to boot linux
[11:58] <Ar_Pharazon> macd I think my workgroup is correct, it worked yesterday and I don't remmber changing it. Places/Network only has a folder called "Windows Network" and it is empty.
[11:58] <MartinW> Thanks
[11:58] <xsteelwolf> how do i uninstall ubuntu
[11:58] <sams> i tried the mplayer but i didn install it
[11:58] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent: I tried that, when I hit F10 to access the recovery console, nothing happens, and I was not given any XP CDs when I bought the computer. All I have is a recovery partition that I can not boot.
[11:58] <Bossmanbeta> xsteelwolf, just wipe the partition
[11:58] <h1st0> Zemus: well ndiswrapper is a pita the bcm43xx module is built specifically for those chipsets the reason it doesn't work out of the box is the firmware is missing.  They don't provide it because its only availible int he windows drivers.  Though you can rip the firmware.  Thats what the bcm43xx-fwcutter package provides.
[11:58] <xsteelwolf> then windows won't be able to load
[11:58] <sams> i m new in this ubuntu
[11:58] <Bossmanbeta> xsteelwolf, you can download the GParted iso which is like a bootable partition magic (open source) and wipe the partition
[11:58] <h1st0> Zemus: But you should be fine now.  That .ko file can stay there as long as the module is blacklisted it won't load.
[11:58] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, well for arguments sake check to make sure, then try verifying nothing in windows changed like the firewall settings, and/or restart the machine, on linux after you have verified the settings goto a console and type 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' then try to browse there again.
[11:59] <booster_614> hey guys i need to know if there is a package i can install that is like limewire or frost wire???
[11:59] <Bossmanbeta> macd, do you need samba to be running to mount a windows share? I thought you just needed smbfs
[11:59] <nazgul> xsteelwolf: boot into a windows repair console and type "fixmbr". then remove the ubuntu partition
[11:59] <BernieMac> my ubuntu will freeze on boot if I shut down with my wireless card enabled. Otherwise my wireless works fine. Running an Intel 3945 in a Dell Latitude D520. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[11:59] <macd> You need it to even talk samba, smbfs installed samba-common as a dependency
[11:59] <macd> 'installs*
[11:59] <Bossmanbeta> right but not the samba server?
[12:00] <macd> correct.
[12:00] <Bossmanbeta> yea ok
[12:00] <Bossmanbeta> smbfs loads samba-common but not the daemon
[12:00] <macd> you can see all the dependencies of a package by using dpkg
[12:00] <Pirate_Hunter> booster_614: frostwire is limewire ohterwise bearshare
[12:00] <Ar_Pharazon> macd Should I restart winxp too?
[12:00] <sams> how to install mplayer
[12:00] <h1st0> Yeah you only need smbfs to mount a windows share.
[12:00] <GIn> how to configure ubuntu to use gdm instead of kdm?
[12:00] <Ar_Pharazon> macd The firewall is off by the way, I checked.
[12:00] <macd> the daemon runs fir samba still.
[12:00] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, yes'
[12:00] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, do you have a floppy drive as you should be able to make a reovery disk if you can boot into windows. Alternatively you can change the /boot/grub/menu.lst settings to speed up the time it boots into the default and then change the default to the windows partition (this won't remove linux)
[12:00] <Bossmanbeta> sams how to install mplayer < how to google how to install mplayer
[12:00] <Ar_Pharazon> macd ok
[12:01] <xsteelwolf> How can i restore ubuntu to default installation without having to reformat
[12:01] <macd> sams, go into add/remove programs and change the dropdown to all programs, then search for 'mplayer' and install it.
[12:01] <Zemus> h1st0, it is now blacklisted and will not load. If you look at http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/ , it says that the output concerning "alternate driver" shouldn't be there, and won't be there once you rmmod it. It's still there, even though I've used both rmmod on it and inserted it into the blacklist. The wifi light still isn't coming on. Ideas?
[12:02] <macd> xsteelwolf, I think you can 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal'
[12:02] <h1st0> Zemus: hrm... alright well lets ditch ndiswrapper and install the firmware.
[12:02] <sams> dont shuffle me Bossmanbeta i m here to ask u to help me not for the using search engine
[12:02] <h1st0> Zemus: its much easier than loading windows drivers on linux.
[12:02] <Bossmanbeta> sams, that's ok speech is free
[12:02] <Zemus> h1st0, I've made it work before. Are you saying you don't know how to fix it?
[12:02] <xsteelwolf> will it mess up kernel?
[12:02] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i increase grub time from 10 secs (default) to 30 secs?
[12:02] <macd> sams, dod you see what I posted? those are the instructionss
[12:02] <h1st0> Zemus: correct.
[12:02] <xsteelwolf> right now im ona  later kernel
[12:02] <macd> Pirate_Hunter, by editing /boot/grub/menu.1st
[12:02] <MeRodent> Pirate_Hunter, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <sams> i already read that Bossmanbeta but still cant confugure it
[12:03] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent: I can't boot into Windows, and I looked, and I have no menu.lst file
[12:03] <macd> sams, look at the above instructions I posted please.
[12:03] <h1st0> Zemus: If you want to continue with ndiswrapper maybe someone else can help you.  I've also made that card work with just copying the firmware in/lib/firmware/`uname -r`.  Thats all thats needed.
[12:03] <Zemus> h1st0, I'm going to remove it from the blacklist, since the instructions didn't say anything about that, and then I'm going to think about what's next.
[12:03] <koudelka_> xsteelwolf: well it means you have two kernels, but they don't take much space
[12:03] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, are you in ubuntu?
[12:03] <koudelka_> ops
[12:03] <macd> sams, or launch a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[12:03] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
[12:03] <Pirate_Hunter> macd, MeRodent: k thanx its that i have 3 os and its annoying having to restart cause ubuntu loaded first
[12:03] <Rick__> hi... i just got ubuntu installled via the alternate installer.. i would like to know how to view my batt level
[12:03] <xsteelwolf> but i can remove the kernel yea?
[12:03] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent: Yes
[12:04] <macd> Rick__, you can right click on the top systray and hit "add applet" then add the batter one.
[12:04] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Is it normal for my cd burner to be squealing and making high pitched clicky noises?
[12:04] <Zemus> I'll reboot and give it a shot, and then move on from there
[12:04] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Cause it is....
[12:04] <sams> i got error broken package
[12:04] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, then sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:04] <[nrx] > Poet_with_a_Gun: no - it sounds like it's fubar'd
[12:04] <Bossmanbeta> Rick__, right click the top menu banner and click 'add to panel' then scroll down, you will see a batt meter applet
[12:04] <Ar_Pharazon> macd: So, I did samba restart, restarted both computers, still can't see any shared folders
[12:04] <macd> sams, then run 'sudo apt-get install -F'
[12:04] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent:  Can I do that from the Live CD?
[12:04] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, so you're booting from the CD?
[12:04] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Worked under windows though...
[12:05] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, well Im not sure what to tell you then, try reconfiguring samba, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'
[12:05] <Poet_with_a_Gun> and I've got two doing it.
[12:05] <Rick__> Bossmanbeta,  thanks :)
[12:05] <sams>  Command line option 'F' [from -F]  is not known.
[12:05] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent:  Yes, I can't boot from the HD, as I can't get to the GRUB menu.
[12:05] <Bossmanbeta> Rick__, np ...
[12:05] <macd> sams, lowercase f, sorry
[12:05] <Ar_Pharazon> macd Do I want to run daemons or inetd?
[12:06] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, what OS have you got installed on the pc?
[12:06] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, daemons
[12:06] <sams> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 854 not upgraded.
[12:06] <Rick__> Bossmanbeta,  any like profile stuff (eg: when on batt mode, less power utilisation , etc) any way to like customise
[12:06] <macd> sams, now try to install mplayer.
[12:06] <sams> ok
[12:06] <macd> Rick__, yes in power management
[12:06] <Zemus> Back.
[12:06] <GreyWolfe> I have Windows XP MCE installed on one of my HDs and Ubuntu 7.04 installed on the other
[12:06] <BernieMac> what do I need to edit to change the default boot OS for GRUB?
[12:06] <Zemus> still isn't lighting up. *sigh*
[12:06] <Zemus> What am I doing wrong... :/
[12:06] <Poet_with_a_Gun> I've had a CD struck at 50% for about a half hour.
[12:06] <Ar_Pharazon> macd Should I create a samba password database?
[12:06] <Bossmanbeta> Rick__, betway to keep the batt usage low, is to lower the display brightness.... beyond that, you could set up a go-to-standby after idletime
[12:06] <macd> Poet_with_a_Gun, might be a bad burn.
[12:06] <sams> still broken package
[12:07] <Rick__> macd,  ah .. sorrry
[12:07] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, if you would like, its optional
[12:07] <Poet_with_a_Gun> no I don't think so.
[12:07] <macd> sams, use pastebin and pate the entire error please.
[12:07] <Ar_Pharazon> macd Which way is simpler?
[12:07] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, does the grub boot loader come up if you boot from HD?
[12:07] <sams> ok
[12:07] <macd> Poet_with_a_Gun, I wasnt asking.
[12:07] <Rick__> yeah.. i normally reduce brightness... the default is way too bright
[12:07] <Rick__> haha
[12:07] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, either
[12:07] <sams> give me other then pastebin
[12:07] <Poet_with_a_Gun> macd. I think maybe it's a kernel prob. I just found a thinger on forums
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> !themes
[12:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:07] <Poet_with_a_Gun> classy
[12:07] <macd> !pastebin | sams
[12:07] <ubotu> sams: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <Ar_Pharazon> macd: So, what now?
[12:07] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent: I get to stage 1.5, then it tells me that I am getting Error 18, I never get the menu
[12:08] <sams> i know but my browser need javascript
[12:08] <xsteelwolf> i really want to use ubuntu linux,but the support for my intel wlan drivers isn't there :(
[12:08] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, verify your settings again, and try and navigate to shares from both ends.
[12:08] <sams> i cant paste it in pastebin
[12:08] <macd> sams, you cant use copy and paste?
[12:08] <sams> i can but not ion firefox it need java script
[12:08] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, once you install smbfs, that mount command should work, but you should use the syntax I gave above
[12:09] <ihouge> or ..
[12:09] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, haven't given up on me, have you? :(
[12:09] <sams> let me try
[12:09] <macd> sams, not to copy and paste, and try http://pastie.caboo.se its a javascript free pastebin
[12:09] <Ar_Pharazon> BossmanBeta is that command the same as Places/Connect to server, Windows Share?
[12:09] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, who me? :)
[12:09] <sams> ok
[12:09] <Poet_with_a_Gun> In order to use linux you sorta got to committ to it xsteelwolf. It's like a bad relationship you think you can save
[12:09] <macd> Ar_Pharazon, sams, good luck I have to go.
[12:10] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[12:10] <Ar_Pharazon> macd, ok
[12:10] <Poet_with_a_Gun> I'll be damned it just ejected the cd and said it was finished...
[12:10] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, 'mount -t cifs //192.168.1.15/c$ /home/bubba/empty-directory/ -o username=administrator,uid=bubba'
[12:10] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, looks like you have a problem with where the kernel is located.
[12:10] <Poet_with_a_Gun> and upon reinsertion of said cd....it's blank.
[12:10] <xsteelwolf> anyone using 4965ag intel drivers?
[12:10] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, yes you sir D:
[12:11] <booster_614> hey guys how can i install java ???
[12:11] <sams> http://pastie.caboo.se/97615
 In order to use linux you sorta got to committ to it xsteelwolf. It's like a bad relationship you think you can save <-- hahaha
[12:11] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, that modprobe skizoid problem is a good one... can't think of anything else on that 1
[12:11] <Poet_with_a_Gun> :D
[12:11] <Zemus> :/
[12:11] <Zemus> what a bummer.
[12:11] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent: Can you suggest how to fix that? I am very new to using Linux, so alot of this is overwhelming
[12:11] <Zemus> Last time, it worked, even with the alternate driver present.
[12:11] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, I'd recommend buying a real wifi card ... a cisco one
[12:12] <xsteelwolf> anyone using 4965ag intel drivers?
[12:12] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Maybe in october my dvd burner will work. Either one of them working would make me happy.
[12:12] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, dude, I'm not going to have a freaking card hanging out the side of my laptop when I know perfectly well the internal one will work :P
[12:12] <sams> macd
[12:12] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I did that, and the output it gave me talks about the arguments.
[12:12] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=578730
[12:12] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, no thank you sir! D:
[12:12] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, post the output to pastebin
[12:12] <Shin_Gouki> Bossmanbeta, i still have problems with CUPS and my pritner, when i now go to mousepad and "print"  Xfprint showsup and the pritner is listed, BUT when i actually PRESS "print" it says : client-error-bar request=!
[12:13] <sams> brb
[12:13] <Ar_Pharazon> BossmanBeta ok, this'll take a while...
[12:13] <Bossmanbeta> Shin_Gouki, I'm not a CUPS guru, I just googled that for you
[12:13] <Poet_with_a_Gun> can you replace your internal card?
[12:13] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Mine unscrews and pops out via little hatch in the bottom
[12:13] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, well just cut-n-paste the output it gave you
[12:13] <Bossmanbeta> ar_if you did an "apt-get install smbfs" and then that cmd I gave above... it should work
[12:13] <BernieMac> nevermind, I got it
[12:13] <MeRodent> GreyWolfe, you should still be able to edit the menu.lst file from the install CD but you'll need to mount the linux partition in order to get to it at the right location. The live CD will allow you to sudo with no password from memory.  But as to how to fix the error itself I can't help.
[12:13] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, of course, just replace the IP address and BUBBA with the right info :)
[12:14] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta DoN't ask why, but I have to move 5 meters away from my modem for the wi-fi to work. The cat5 is 3m long. Yeah I did replace them.
[12:14] <booster_614> can anyone tell me how to install Java  ???
[12:14] <Shin_Gouki> bosster i can do
[12:14] <ompaul> !java | booster_614
[12:14] <ubotu> booster_614: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:14] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, well whatever output it gave you paste it so I can read it
[12:14] <Poet_with_a_Gun> use automatix, ignore the legal schemgal crap at hte begining and grab all the codecs.
[12:15] <Poet_with_a_Gun> You're on your own if the MPAA police show up though
[12:15] <GreyWolfe> MeRodent:  I am going to attempt to use Super GRUB Disk to boot with, see if that helps
[12:15] <Shin_Gouki> booster tell me what u wnt to do with java and if ur runnning 64 bit?
[12:15] <ompaul> !automatix
[12:15] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:15] <Poet_with_a_Gun> dammit I ignored that bot.
[12:15] <Bossmanbeta> ubotu, just curious, who is "we" ? You work for cannonical?
[12:16] <ompaul> Bossmanbeta, most people who help here on a regular basis, that is a bot
[12:16] <[nrx] > lol
[12:16] <BernieMac> !ubotu | Bossmanbeta
[12:16] <Bossmanbeta> ompaul, oh ... i thought i saw him typing real txt
[12:16] <Zemus> *sigh* flash fails miserably. Oh well.
[12:16] <Bossmanbeta> ..earlier
[12:16] <ubotu> Bossmanbeta: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:16] <Bossmanbeta> i see
[12:16] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, .... he's a bot :|
[12:16] <Zemus> or rather "it".
[12:16] <Poet_with_a_Gun> I'm remembering a part in irobot where they try to get the robot to dismantle himself.
[12:16] <Bossmanbeta> ompaul, you saying cannonical employess sit here?
[12:17] <Bossmanbeta> I wrote a letter to cannonical about some things and got a pretty disappointing answer
[12:17] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm stuck in my error tracking
[12:17] <Bossmanbeta> but anyway
[12:17] <ompaul> Bossmanbeta, some of them do, but mostly a community does
[12:17] <Zemus> hey h1st0, what were your instructions on installing the native firmware for the card again?
[12:17] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, i dont often hang here... so I didn't know ... I usually sit in #ubuntu-newyork
[12:17] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, np
[12:18] <Bossmanbeta> wb Ar_Pharazon
[12:18] <ompaul> Bossmanbeta, and ubuntu is not canonical and canonical is not ubuntu :-)
[12:18] <Bossmanbeta> ompaul, i thought cannonical = corporate arm of ubuntu
[12:18] <Zemus> macd, what were your instructions on installing the native firmware for the card again?
[12:18] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Ubuntu is so close to living up to it's darn slogan.
[12:19] <Bossmanbeta> yea canonical delivers ubuntu ... says so right on their website
[12:19] <Ar_Pharazon> This is ridiculous, when my laptop is close to the modem I can't connect from ubuntu, If I move away, connect to my wireless network and then move closer my desktop pc gets disconnected... And the pc is connected through ethernet!
[12:19] <NemesisD> can anybody explain to me the -mi option or the -ma option of ndiswrapper (write module install configuration for all devices)
[12:19] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta, Anyway, wb?
[12:19] <[nrx] > Ar_Pharazon: sounds like an issue with your router
[12:19] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, wb = welcome back
[12:19] <GreyWolfe> Am I able to open my CD drive while running from the Live CD? I need to burn something so I can attempt to fix my problem
[12:20] <Ar_Pharazon> [nrx]  Seems to me I have an evil router.
[12:20] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta Oh. So... What now?
[12:20] <BernieMac> GreyWolfe, I don't think it likes that very much...not positive though
[12:20] <[nrx] > Ar_Pharazon: i would agree
[12:20] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, text is a terrible medium for tech support
[12:20] <ompaul> Bossmanbeta, we have done well here for 3 years
[12:20] <GreyWolfe> BernieMac: I believe I have another solution anyways
[12:20] <ompaul> Bossmanbeta, most questions are repeated
[12:21] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Try the forums they are almost useful. Problem is though when you search you pull up all kinds of stuff from many releases ago :D
[12:21] <ompaul> most answers are typed up
[12:21] <BernieMac> GreyWolfe, glad to hear it
[12:21] <Bossmanbeta> ompaul, I've done it on and off for about 16 yrs.. it still sucks as a support medium
[12:21] <Poet_with_a_Gun> I've solved like 9 out of 10 probs on the forums
[12:21] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta Well... I try to provide screenshots when I can. Um.
[12:21] <ompaul> Poet_with_a_Gun, which is why there is help.ubuntu.com/community
[12:21] <Poet_with_a_Gun> ;D
[12:21] <GreyWolfe> I'll attempt to put the .iso onto a jump-grive and boot from that
[12:21] <[nrx] > Bossmanbeta: it's the most widely used medium around for support, so it can't be that bad
[12:22] <br1tva> Hi all , can som one help me ?
[12:22] <Bossmanbeta> Compared to other methods, it's not great.
[12:22] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Just sell your computer boxxmanbeta
[12:22] <[nrx] > !ask
[12:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:22] <Poet_with_a_Gun> and buy a dell with ubuntu preinstalled.
[12:22] <[nrx] > Bossmanbeta: that's your personal opinion
[12:22] <Bossmanbeta> nrx, I never purported it to be anything else.
[12:22] <Poet_with_a_Gun> There's a 600$ solution to a free operating system :D
[12:22] <br1tva> Pleese tell me how to instlal k3b ??? I have on desktop k3b.tar.gz , what i must to doo to instal ??
[12:23] <[nrx] > Bossmanbeta: indeed,however you were pushing it a bit :)
[12:23] <Bossmanbeta> i was?
[12:23] <Bossmanbeta> Hmm I made a comment, then replied to the replies... <shrug>
[12:23] <Poet_with_a_Gun> Why didin't you use the add remove program thing in your application menu br1tva
[12:23] <tifine> brltva:   tar -zxvf   kb3.tar.gz
[12:23] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta I've changed my Ips from 192.168.5.1 and 5.2 to 4.1 and 4.2, I also renamed my workgroup. The very idea sounds absurd but, hey, maybe it'll magically start working! I need to restart first though.
[12:24] <Zemus> h1st0, macd, have you both disappeared? I'd love to try and make the card work via native firmware now, since ndiswrapper simply isn't working, but I need you to help me out! Are you both gone? :(
[12:24] <sams> now who will help me to install mplayer
[12:24] <hurdsean> join #xubuntu
[12:24] <BernieMac> sams, the add/remove programs didn't run? or...?
[12:24] <[nrx] > sams: open a terminal window/konsole and type "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[12:24] <koudelka_> sams: can't you just install it in synaptic?
[12:25] <Poet_with_a_Gun> can't you do that via add/remove too samms?
[12:25] <Poet_with_a_Gun> anyone use ubuntu ultimate? how is it for out of the box cdr support?
[12:25] <sams> nfx i have some conflicts plz see them b4
[12:25] <Poet_with_a_Gun> what's the problem?
[12:25] <sams> http://pastie.caboo.se/97615
[12:25] <br1tva> Poet_with_a_Gun:  plese read privat msg
[12:25] <BernieMac> my ubuntu will freeze on boot if I shut down with my wireless card enabled. Otherwise my wireless works fine. Running an Intel 3945 in a Dell Latitude D520. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[12:25] <GIn> Evince is very slow ehn trying to view pdf documents :(
[12:26] <sams> i never use synapitic
[12:26] <[nrx] > try adding the "--ignore-missing" switch
[12:26] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, I dont understand the phrase, " freeze on boot if I shut down"
[12:26] <tifine> brltva: you should have done it other way around sudo apt-get install package
[12:26] <Poet_with_a_Gun> weird, cause synaptic would have grabbed all them dependencies you be missing
[12:26] <sams> plz write the complete command
[12:27] <[nrx] > sams: add "--ignore-missing" at the end
[12:27] <[nrx] > brb
[12:27] <sams> ok
[12:27] <Poet_with_a_Gun> ah hell
[12:27] <Poet_with_a_Gun> it's night night time
[12:27] <gotama> Hi! I'm having problems with the /dev/sequencer . Does anyone know how to fix it?
[12:28] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, if I am running ubuntu and have my wireless enabled and then restart or shut down the system it will freeze on the screen with the ubuntu logo/name and the load bar
[12:28] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, try a ifconfig wifi0 down prior to shutdown
[12:28] <koudelka_> gotama: what's tell us what the problem is and we'll see if there's anyone that can help you
[12:28] <Bossmanbeta> or eth0, whatever the wifi card is
[12:29] <[nrx] > la de dah
[12:29] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Nope, didn't work. Ok, how about this, I reset all the ethernet settings of my ubuntu box to what they were two days ago, when ethernet didn't worked, then use the same method (iptables --flush and ifconfig eth0 IP netmas SUBNET) to try and get it working again?
[12:29] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, I am assuming that will shut down my wireless card? I got use the keyboard shortcuts to do that and it works fine. Everything will boot normally if I manual disable it. Didn't know if there was an easier way
[12:29] <sams> sudo: openoffice.org-l10n-en-us:: command not found
[12:29] <gotama> I can't play midi files. The message is that can't find the /dev/sequencer
[12:29] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Uh, didn't work.
[12:30] <[nrx] > sams: i thought you were trying to install mplayer?
[12:30] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon,  no need to reset your ethernet .. if you can ping that windows box, you should eb able to map the drive
[12:30] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: But... I can't.
[12:30] <sams> yes
[12:30] <sams> nrx
[12:30] <sams> from last 4 dyas
[12:30] <[nrx] > then why are you issuing commands for OOo?
[12:30] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: By the way, this might be important: When it did work, at first I shared a folder on my desktop.
[12:30] <sams> to plasy mpeg and wav files
[12:30] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, well .. it sounds like ubuntu is not doing it right when you do a shutdown, which is why i suggested doing it before shutdown...
[12:30] <Loopies> I know this isn't Ubunu related, but I'm trying to find the right room to ask a question and I can't find the "Channel list" in X Chat ... any help, and then I'll be out of your hair
[12:30] <Bossmanbeta> it sounds like that is the fix, but you wanted something more automatic..
[12:30] <[nrx] > sams: xmms is better :)
[12:30] <gotama> I have installed kmid.
[12:31] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, would I be running that every time I shut down?
[12:31] <sams> xmms is installed but from there i cant play wav and mpeg files
[12:31] <MeRodent> Loopies, server/join channels
[12:31] <MeRodent> Loopies, then it gives the option to retrieve channel list
[12:31] <[nrx] > sams: why not? - remember, there are lots of options out there for media players
[12:32] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: When I went into network, I saw "C$", "D$", "Stuff" (the folder I shared) and windows's shareddocs. When I tried accesing the $ drives it asked for a password, I had no idea what password to use so I just clicked cancel.
[12:32] <Loopies> MeRodent, THANK YOU!!!!
[12:32] <jmspeex> Has anyone figured a workaround for using a CF card with Feisty (64-bit) without oops-ing the kernel?
[12:32] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, well I'm not sure why ubuntu isn't halting the wifi card on its own, but that would be a workaround.. you could type all that in a text file ... shutodwn the wifi card, then on the 2nd line the shutdown command... then chmod 700 that file... then just execute that
[12:32] <sams> ok guide me what shall i do on xmms
[12:32] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta:When I shared my C: and D: drives, they showed up as C: and D: alongside C$ and D$.
[12:32] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: So.. Ring any bells?
[12:32] <vancomycin> hi again, I booted the ubuntu live cd on my laptop to prepare using ubunto and xp on dual boot. I ran into problems! I use the guided partition mode, and it said ~90%. Anyways, I went to continue and I received this error : "An Error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The Restore operation is aborted" Now I am back in windows :( After reading the forums - I am defraging my single 100gb hdd with Perfectdisk, I ha
[12:32] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, the $ just means an administrative share, you need to use the administrator login to reach a share that ends in $
[12:32] <sams> nrx this is only xmms music player
[12:33] <miki> gotoma : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo?highlight=%28midi%29
[12:33] <[nrx] > sams, vlc
[12:33] <[nrx] > !vlc
[12:33] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:33] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: As in sudo, or as in winxp's admin?
[12:33] <gotama> Ok. Thanks.
[12:33] <[nrx] > !codecs
[12:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, with the command i gave u
[12:33] <[nrx] > :)
[12:33] <sams> what to do to vlc
[12:33] <Bossmanbeta> the -o username=administrator,uid=bubba portion will allow you to reach a share ending in $
[12:33] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Oh. Ok. So what do I do then?
[12:33] <sams> dear i read them all but from last 4 days i m still hanging in sky
[12:34] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: As I said, the command doesn't appear to do much.
[12:34] <[nrx] > sams, you need to install the right codecs for mp3
[12:34] <sams> yes nrx
[12:34] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Besides giving me http://pastebin.org/2515
[12:34] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, that sounds like what I want to do, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about that. I am fairly new to linux, if you could walk me through the process that would be great, if not thanks for the help!!
[12:34] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, like i said 2x before, if i saw the output I could perhaps offer moer info
[12:34] <Bossmanbeta> ..ah
[12:34] <zetheroo> whats the command to delete a folder and all its contents?
[12:34] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, ok.. here's what ya do... from cmd line, type "gedit shutdown" you will get an empty text file
[12:35] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, check
[12:35] <Bossmanbeta> type the 'ifconfig eth0 down" or wifi0, whatever, on that first line
[12:35] <wib> zetheroo: rm -r /directory
[12:35] <Zemus> I can't make my wifi work and no one knows how to fix my problem. What the hell. :|
[12:35] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: The output is at http://pastebin.org/2515. Sorry, thought you saw it.
[12:35] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, on the second line type shutdown
[12:35] <zetheroo> wib: thanks
[12:35] <wib> Zemus: what is the problem
[12:35] <Bossmanbeta> or shutdown now, that works too
[12:36] <Bossmanbeta> "shutdown now"
[12:36] <Bossmanbeta> then save it
[12:36] <Zemus> wib, http://pastebin.com/f3bd49e55
[12:36] <Bossmanbeta> its like making a batch file in windows, BernieMac
[12:36] <vancomycin> To add, I was going to use Partition Magic, but after reading the absolute newbie forum, it looks like a BAD idea - I should just do the guided mode w/ unused space again from the Live CD after defragging with Perfectdisk huh?
[12:36] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, just so I don't do it wrong, second line of the text file. Nothing on the first?
[12:36] <Bossmanbeta> however, once you save it, you need to change the permissions on the file to make it executable
[12:36] <sams> nrx plzzzz wakeup
[12:36] <savvas> BernieMac: what are you trying to do?
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, the first line is the "ifocnfig eth0 down" where eth0=the wifi interface
[12:37] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Can you see it?
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, the 2nd line is the shutdown
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, 1moment
[12:37] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: ok
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, so that's your two lines BernieMac
[12:37] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta,  got it, sorry didn't see it the first time was only looking at the highlights
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> ok
[12:37] <Bossmanbeta> then save it
[12:38] <Bossmanbeta> then from cmd line type "chmod 700 filename"
[12:38] <Bossmanbeta> that will make it executable
[12:38] <Bossmanbeta> then u can execute it from the gui or by typing ./filename in shell
[12:38] <wib> Zemus: i dont know, but the guys at #ndiswrapper helped me a great deal :)
[12:38] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm guessing that there most be something messing up the modules, any help on how i can check if the modules is having some problems?
[12:38] <gwapo> anyone help me. my epson stylus cx2900 doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using the driver for cx1500 and cx3100 but to no avail. anyone help me please to finally get my printer working?
[12:38] <Bossmanbeta> ok ar_
[12:39] <Bossmanbeta> NO SPACE after administrator
[12:39] <Bossmanbeta> you put a space then you put ,uid
[12:39] <zetheroo> anyone know of a good dock for Ubuntu?
[12:39] <savvas> koudelka_: try dmesg
[12:39] <[nrx] > ?
[12:39] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Ah... ok.
[12:39] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, remove that space and it should wrk
[12:39] <Zemus> wib, I was hoping they would help me too, but I've been waiting in there for about two hours and no one's said anything
[12:39] <wib> Zemus: i think i didnt even try to remove the alternative driver in the first place.
[12:39] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, ok thank you!! wading through that all now
[12:39] <Bossmanbeta> it should be 1 word ... administrator,uid=xyz
[12:39] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, no prob
[12:40] <gwapo> anyone help me. my epson stylus cx2900 doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using the driver for cx1500 and cx3100 but to no avail. anyone help me please to finally get my printer working?
[12:40] <Bossmanbeta> the reason the password didn't work there Ar_Pharazon  is because the way you typed that... it thought the username was "administrator," not "administrator" becuase you put that space afte the comma
[12:40] <Zemus> wib, I didn't have to last time and it worked, but this time the wifi light simply won't come on, and dmesg doesn't say anything about wlan0.
[12:41] <seraph34> How do I go about returning the program tabs that minimize/maximize windows to the bottom of the screen? they've recently disappeared
[12:41] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Now it says "mount: device c$ is read_protected, mounting read only \n mount: cannot mount device c$ read-only"
[12:41] <_cerberus_> I have an old computer which can't run the dapper live install so I installed breezy, added the dapper cd to the apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade. It says that there are two packages being held back and 0 to upgrade. what's wrong?
[12:41] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[12:41] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I meant write-protected, not read_protected
[12:41] <gwapo> my epson stylus cx2900 doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using the driver for cx1500 and cx3100 but to no avail. how can i finally get my printer working?
[12:41] <savvas> seraph34: that's a symptom of installing beryl/compiz :)
[12:42] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon,  did you DISABLE simple filesharing in XP ?
[12:42] <seraph34> savvas, unfortunately I didn't install either of those...
[12:42] <wib> Zemus: hmm, what kind of device is it? i had lots of trouble with an usb wlan thingy
[12:42] <nazgul> morning. want to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1 by default on boot. uncommented "net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf but it does not work on boot. any ideas?
[12:42] <savvas> seraph34: weird, can you run the terminal and try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall metacity
[12:42] <seraph34> savvas, I was re-arranging my icons and something happened and they went away, now I can't seem to get them back
[12:42] <savvas> seraph34: you're using gnome right?
[12:43] <Zemus> wib, it's not usb, it's a  BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 
[12:43] <Zemus> here, lspci info
[12:43] <gwapo> my printer doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using other drivers of the same manufacturer but to no avail. how can i finally get my printer working?
[12:43] <wib> Zemus: btw, what is the ifconfig output? does it have wlan0?
[12:43] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I *am* currently sharing files, so I suppose that means file sahring is enabled. As for Simple... Are there other kinds?
[12:43] <Ignite> gwapo, what is the make and model of your printer?
[12:43] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, it sounds like you mounted it ... it's a read only now, can u check if you can open the folder on linux
[12:43] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, yes you must DISABLE simple file sharing in XP
[12:44] <Zemus> wib, 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:44] <gwapo> Ignite, my printer is epson stylus cx2900
[12:44] <seraph34> savvas, I'm dling the file... and yes, running gnome
[12:44] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: How do I do that?
[12:44] <Zemus> wib, yes, ifocnfig does have wlan0
[12:44] <Zemus> does have eth0 ** sorry
[12:44] <seraph34> savvas, Metacity is setup... now what? Reboot?
[12:44] <Zemus> wib, ifconfig does not have wlan0 -- isn't wlan0 a part of iwconfig, though?
[12:44] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, in XP... go to TOOLS, FOLDER OPTIONS, then the VIEW tab, scroll to the bottom and UNcheck SIMPLE FILE SHARING
[12:45] <savvas> seraph34: ok, after it's download do "metacity --replace" (without quotes) and leave it for 5 seconds. After that hit CTRL+C
[12:45] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, also if you did mount that share but as read only you will need to umount it prior to remounting
[12:45] <[nrx] > :D
[12:45] <Ignite> gwapo, sorry, I can't help.
[12:45] <seraph34> Does anyone have the drivers for a RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01) wireless card?
[12:45] <seraph34> savvas, k
[12:45] <wib> Zemus: the device wlan0 has to appear in ifconfig. you say it does appear or not?
[12:45] <Zemus> wib, I guess not -- I am on foreign soil, admittedly.
[12:46] <Zemus> wib, no, it does not appear there.
[12:46] <Zemus> wib, the wifi light won't come on either. The device works fine in windows, and it has worked in linux previously to this reinstall.
[12:46] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I think it tried to mount it as read-only, but failed. How do I unmount it?
[12:46] <Bossmanbeta> umount /linux/path/to/dir
[12:47] <wib> Zemus: then i don't know, sorry.
[12:47] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i change my splash screen?
[12:47] <[nrx] > !splash
[12:47] <seraph34> savvas, I hit CTRL-C... now what?
[12:47] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[12:47] <Zemus> *sigh*
[12:47] <Zemus> wib, yeah, I've been getting that a lot.
[12:47] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, try that cdw link I gave ya :-)
[12:47] <wib> Zemus: maybe try reinstalling :)
[12:47] <savvas> seraph34: did the window manager come back? it should've been fixed
[12:48] <Ignite> seraph34, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570 try this.
[12:48] <wib> Zemus: its sunday, after all.
[12:48] <Zemus> wib, it seems when you take away the linux community's ability to ask the same questions over and over and tell you to do something entirely different, and you take it away by ridiculously detailed explanation of the problem and desired outcome... the naked truth comes out: That simply no one knows how to fix it. :P
[12:48] <Zemus> wib, reinstalling? :(
[12:48] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, dont reinstall
[12:48] <gwapo> my printer doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using other drivers of the same manufacturer but to no avail. how can i finally get my printer working?
[12:48] <etale> where is the gnome splash screen located in 7.04? it's not in /home/user/.gnome/
[12:48] <seraph34> savvas, window manager didn't come back
[12:49] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, ok. No one has any idea what's going on, it sucks.
[12:49] <wib> Zemus: i dont know, did you change the distro?
[12:49] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, if you want to try a "reinstall perspective" on the problem, just load the ubuntu CD (it doubles as a live cd) and see if it sees the wifi card
[12:49] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Simple file sharing is disabled but I the mount command still won't mount C$.
[12:49] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, was that simple sharing box checked when you unchecked it?
[12:49] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Yes
[12:49] <Zemus> wib, nope. I'm running a 64x Turion processor, and the first time I got it to work, I accidentally installed feisty with x86 iso's... I went back and did it over again with x64 iso's, and now I can't get ndiswraper to work again. Haha.
[12:50] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, then to simplify matters just reboot linux and retry that command to mount it
[12:50] <savvas> seraph34: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" this will restart gnome (the graphical interface, so save anything not saved before). log back in and hopefully it will be fixed
[12:50] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, there are other ways, but I'd rather not type it all out :)
[12:50] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Ok, simple is great for me
[12:50] <Bossmanbeta> lol
[12:50] <seraph34> savvas, k
[12:50] <gwapo> anyone help me. my epson stylus cx2900 doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using the driver for cx1500 and cx3100 but to no avail. anyone help me please to finally get my printer working?
[12:50] <seraph34> savvas, would ctrl-alt-backspace work?
[12:51] <sandy> I am using ubuntu 7.10 and i need to change setting to compiz fusion how to do it?
[12:51] <Zemus> ..... hahahahhaa
[12:51] <savvas> seraph34: sometimes that doesn't work, this command is actually way better
[12:51] <sams> hello any buddy who can help me to run mpeg and wav files in this UBUNTU
[12:51] <frojnd> helo there
[12:51] <seraph34> savvas, kthx
[12:51] <savvas> sandy: /join #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <wib> Zemus: and its the latest ndiswrapper version?
[12:51] <axz> !mirror
[12:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:52] <Zemus> wib, yes indeed
[12:52] <frojnd> How do I check what process concerns any audio .... ??
[12:52] <frojnd> I mean I shut down amarok but I think something is still using it...
[12:52] <sams> hello any buddy who can help me to run mpeg and wav files in this UBUNTU
[12:52] <frojnd> Because I can only play game if any audio "thing" is shut down
[12:52] <davi> Are there ISO images which fit in 650 MB CDs?
[12:52] <Bossmanbeta> frojnd, from cmd prompt try "ps -ef |grep amarok" see if you see anything
[12:52] <savvas> !ndiswrapper > savvas
[12:53] <Zemus> wow, jeez, that was it
[12:53] <Zemus> oh my god
[12:53] <Zemus> the version is out of date
[12:53] <frojnd> Bossmanbeta, nothing
[12:53] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  :)
[12:53] <wib> Zemus: yeah i had that once, too
[12:53] <Bossmanbeta> frojnd, then amarok is not running
[12:53] <sams> hello any buddy who can help me to run mpeg and wav files in this UBUNTU
[12:53] <Zemus> yeti@garuda:~$ ndiswrapper -v
[12:53] <Zemus> module version is too old!
[12:53] <Zemus> utils version: '1.9', utils version needed by module: '0'
[12:53] <frojnd> Bossmanbeta, but I'm sure something else is runnig...
[12:53] <Zemus> Latest version is 1.47! I'm using 1.38!
[12:53] <frojnd> Bossmanbeta, cause when I restart X sound in game works..
[12:53] <buttercups> sams: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:53] <Bossmanbeta> frojnd, perhaps some other app is playing the audio
[12:53] <jaro> Who wants to be my Linux-Guru.Slave ???
[12:54] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i change splash screen?
[12:54] <[nrx] > !splash | Pirate_Hunter
[12:54] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[12:54] <frojnd> Bossmanbeta, I had opened just movie player and amarok
[12:54] <Zemus> How do I remove 1.38 from my system?
[12:54] <hamadooo> hii .. what is the restricted drivers use for ??
[12:54] <hamadooo> hy  my wireless card is there ?
[12:54] <Bossmanbeta> mplayer plays audio... perhaps that's it .. u can do the same command but put in mplayer
[12:54] <hamadooo> why*
[12:54] <savvas> jaro: unless you pay, probably noone :) what's the problem?
[12:54] <Zemus> !ops hamadooo
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops hamadooo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Zemus> :(
[12:55] <Zemus> xD
[12:55] <jaro> problem is, i can't figure out how to get Ladspa plugins running in Jack Rack
[12:55] <hehe> hello all
[12:55] <[nrx] > hello
[12:55] <frojnd> Bossmanbeta, still nothing. Is there any command that shows all process about audio ?
[12:55] <hamadooo> help plz
[12:55] <spanther> zemd,  lol
[12:55] <hehe> when i compiled a c programme a error comes  error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[12:55] <wib> Zemus: i believe you can just install th enew version over it. otherwise, the ndiswrapper website says how tu uninstall it
[12:55] <spanther> arg Zemus i mean :)
[12:55] <Zemus> spanther, np
[12:56] <BernardB> !mounting
[12:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:56] <EliteInsane> anyone here not busy enough to guide me through installing wine?
[12:56] <hamadooo> !restricted frivers
[12:56] <spanther> stupid tabbing its addicting me *g*
[12:56] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to change the setting of compiz fusion.
[12:56] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Ok, I rebooted, but the machines wouldn't ping so I did iptables --flush and ifconfig eth0 and then they did start to ping. I still can't see shared folders anywhere, except, macd had told me to use the mount commant only with smbfs instead of cifs, I'd used Desktop/Bubba as the folder and I can see "Bubba" on my desktop now.
[12:56] <gwapo> anyone help me. my epson stylus cx2900 doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using the driver for cx1500 and cx3100 but to no avail. anyone help me please to finally get my printer working?
[12:56] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Only when I try to open it I get an error.
[12:57] <gwapo> my printer doesn't have a driver available in ubuntu. I tried using other drivers of the same manufacturer but to no avail. how can i finally get my printer working?
[12:57] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: The mount command you typed still doesn't work.
[12:57] <wib> Zemus: ah, you should uninstall the old one first
[12:57] <frojnd> !counter strike
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about counter strike - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Zemus> wib, yes, I know, I'm reading now
[12:57] <frojnd> !games
[12:57] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[12:57] <Tomcat_> gwapo: Best bet is probably to check with Google how others did it... or ask your manufacturer.
[12:57] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, i'm about out of suggestions
[12:58] <hehe> when i compiled a c programme a error comes  error: stdio.h: No such file or directory whats the problem with it
[12:58] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, smbfs or cifs shouldn't matter in the mount command - both would work
[12:58] <seraph34> savvas, ugh... unfortunately that didn't work...
[12:58] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: So... How about resetting everything?
[12:58] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, there are too many variables I think to properly assess this from irc :)
[12:58] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta:
[12:59] <seraph34> savvas, basically all I need is the taskbar... if I minimize a window, the only way to get back into it is to alt-tab
[12:59] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Well, all I can say... >.<
[12:59] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, my apologies...
[12:59] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Meh, it's alright.
[12:59] <Knofi> how can i ignore dependecies and remove a package?
[01:00] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, i've never had a problem moutning a windows share from linux with that command...
[01:00] <predaeus> hehe, did you install build-essential
[01:00] <spanther> god i love this community so living like and full of emotions (smileys)  *g*
[01:00] <[nrx] > hehe: you need to intall build-essential
[01:00] <[nrx] > predaeus: you beat me to it ;/
[01:00] <predaeus> g
[01:00] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm guessing that there most be something messing up the modules, any help on how i can check if the modules is having some problems?
[01:00] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Still, though, I'm planning to reinstall samba, that should wipe the config files. How can I do the same for ethernet, and is it posible anything changed on windows?
[01:00] <Knofi> or how can i reinstall  a package with minimum complexity and amount of time?
[01:01] <Bossmanbeta> well to mount a windows share from linux, you dont need samba... just smbfs and smbfs-common
[01:01] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Hmm... Wait a sec, I'll boot from the Live Cd and see if it works that way first.
[01:01] <Bossmanbeta> ok Ar_Pharazon
[01:01] <wib> Knofi: synaptic package manager
[01:01] <Knofi> i tried aptitude
[01:01] <koudelka_> Knofi: open synaptic search for your package and right click on it and mark "reinstall"
[01:01] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, i dont think smbfs comes installed on the life CD so you'd have to install that before the mount cmd
[01:01] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, still working on eth0. eth0 shows up during ifconfig when wireless if off, but if wireless is on I also get eth1. Should I still be getting the eth0?
[01:02] <Knofi> ah, ok, i will try...
[01:02] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, eth0 might be your real ethernet/wire port
[01:02] <Bossmanbeta> you need to specify the wireless there.. that could be eth1
[01:02] <Bossmanbeta> or wifi0, it varies
[01:03] <Zemus> How do I rm all files found by a locate command?
[01:03] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, so probably the eth1. What exactly am I looking to for to be copied into the text file?
[01:03] <Bossmanbeta> zemus you could output all the files in locate to file
[01:03] <Bossmanbeta> then I think rm can use a file list... hmm
[01:03] <Zemus> >.>
[01:03] <tungsten> ?
[01:03] <spanther> lol smileys again xD
[01:03] <Zemus> ok, does anyone actually *know* how you can rm all the files listed by locate?
[01:03] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, just replace eth0 in that command with whatever is the wireless
[01:04] <id_sonic> Hi, I install some application and there is a "debian" directory in my gnome menu, like http://www.digglife.cn/wp-content/uploads/3/379/2007/06/debian-menu.png
[01:04] <id_sonic> How to delete it?
[01:04] <spanther> Zemus, you have to type rm -rf in front of the patchs and filenames by every file :p or delete whole folders with that
[01:04] <spanther> patchs = paths
[01:04] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, i would pipe the output to file, then copy the RM command to prefix each entry ... the chmod 700 the file :)
[01:04] <Zemus> spanther, I have to do it one file at a time?
[01:04] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, ahhh it makes sense now. sorry I was making things far more complicated than they needed to be. Thanks again
[01:05] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, no prob
[01:05] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I have no idea how to do that, do you want to walk me through it?
[01:05] <spanther> Zemus, yeah or you install midnight commander (package name : mc ) and start it in terminal with sudo then you can delete it easily per shortcuts but you still have to mark these files :) (mc is a file manager)
[01:05] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, well in your locate command... "locate blah >outputfile"
[01:05] <Bossmanbeta> then you'll have the output in a text file called "outputfile"
[01:05] <Bossmanbeta> then yuo can edit that file and put a "rm" in front of each line
[01:06] <Bossmanbeta> or rm -f to force deletion
[01:06] <[nrx] > find . -name \*~ -exec rm {} \;
[01:07] <alessandro> wei
[01:07] <alessandro> allora?
[01:07] <alessandro> cm va?
[01:07] <Bossmanbeta> or if you know more about scriptiing like [nrx]  seems to, you can try that :)
[01:07] <alessandro> i love america
[01:07] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I have to put it in front of every file?! Can't I just say "rm fileone filetwo filethree filefour" and so on?
[01:07] <Xteven> hi
[01:07] <[nrx] > Bossmanbeta: lol - google is my friend :)
[01:07] <alessandro> i love netherland
[01:07] <Xteven> can anyone tell me how I can create a custom color in openoffice spreadsheet ?
[01:07] <alessandro> what'
[01:07] <alessandro> ?
[01:07] <Bossmanbeta> it's mine too [nrx]  ... i was just thinking off the top of my head for that answer
[01:08] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I have to put it in front of every file?! Can't I just say "rm fileone filetwo filethree filefour" and so on?
[01:08] <alessandro> YES I DON'T NOW!
[01:08] <[nrx] > Zemus: yes
[01:08] <Bossmanbeta> but when it comes to deleting files, I would be cautious if you dont know what your doing with scripts
[01:08] <id_sonic> .. Only one can help me?
[01:08] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, well unless you know advanced scripting
[01:08] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: About my ethernet problem, is "samba-common" enough or should I install samba"?
[01:08] <Bossmanbeta> <--I dont
[01:08] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I'm not messing with scripting right now... ok, now I've got 'rm' in front of all those, what's next?
[01:08] <[nrx] > Zemus: or you can use sudo sed and append it to the text file.. but you're best just going through the text file and adding rm before every line :)
[01:08] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, using synaptic just do smbfs ... it will add the common for u
[01:08] <LazariuS> .
[01:09] <[nrx] > Zemus: chmod the file to 700 and run it :)
[01:09] <Bossmanbeta> well Zemus just chmod 700 filename
[01:09] <Bossmanbeta> what nrx just said... then run it
[01:09] <Zemus> [nrx] , we already established it doesn't need to be before every file though -- we said once at the beginning was enough. Right?
[01:09] <Bossmanbeta> some may fail....
[01:09] <Bossmanbeta> u may need root rights for some of the files..depends on what you're deleting
[01:09] <[nrx] > Zemus: no, you need to put "rm" at the beginning of every line
 Bossmanbeta, I have to put it in front of every file?! Can't I just say "rm fileone filetwo filethree filefour" and so on?
[01:10] <ompaul> !sudo
[01:10] <Zemus> <[nrx] > Zemus: yes
[01:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:10] <Zemus> :|
[01:10] <Bossmanbeta> yea Zemus every line
[01:10] <Zemus> >.<
[01:10] <Zemus> RRR
[01:10] <Bossmanbeta> :)
[01:10] <[nrx] > Zemus: that was out of context lol
[01:10] <Zemus> [nrx] , k
[01:10] <[nrx] > my bad
[01:10] <Zemus> that's ok
[01:10] <Bossmanbeta> there may be a scripting way to do it I am sure... but hell if I would play with that if i didnt know what i was doing especially with the RM command
[01:10] <Zemus> I thought in linux, you can do one command, and then list files, and it applied to all the files
[01:10] <Zemus> In fact, I'm totally positive.
[01:10] <axz> Guys when ye upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 need to do fresh install
[01:10] <Tominator> hi!
[01:10] <[nrx] > Zemus, find . -name \*~ -exec rm {} \;
[01:11] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, well if the paths are long, that would be a long cmd
[01:11] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, if you're right, you could find/replace in the text file ever hard-return and replace it with a [space] 
[01:11] <[nrx] > Zemus: but like Bossmanbeta said, if you're not savvy with scripting, do it the easy way
[01:11] <Bossmanbeta> then put an rm in there :)
[01:11] <Tasmaniac> or u could do rm * but I wouldnt
[01:11] <[nrx] > Tasmaniac: :/
[01:11] <Tasmaniac> :)
[01:11] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, exactly :|
[01:12] <Zemus> ok.
[01:12] <Tominator> does anybody know a possibility to test whether my 5.1 card works or not? rhythmbox doesn't use the rear boxes, does it?
[01:12] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  but this is the RM command
[01:12] <Zemus> How do I run the file?
[01:12] <qzio> anyone running gutsy (7.10) that can tell me to get the whole configure with xorg.conf insteed of gui thing back?
[01:12] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, ... so caution would be the high order bit here
[01:12] <Zemus> Also, chmod should be unnecessary if I run it as root.
[01:12] <seraph34> Ok, I've given up on trying to recover my taskbar, how do I go about resetting my top and bottom bars to the defaults?
[01:12] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, from shell type "chmod 700 filename" that will make the txt file executable
[01:12] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, ohhhhhhhh ok
[01:12] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, then from shell "./filename"
[01:13] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I thought chmod was just for file permissions. My bad. The noob learns. Haha.
[01:13] <Zemus> ./ means run, then
[01:13] <Zemus> nice
[01:13] <[nrx] > it is..
[01:13] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus,  then pray to Stallman i works
[01:13] <Zemus> ok, excellent :D
[01:13] <Zemus> hahaha
[01:13] <[nrx] > Zemus: might like to llok at this too: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7231
[01:13] <[nrx] > llok/look*
[01:14] <Ar_Pharazon> If I want a secondary partition just to keep my files in, it should be extended, right?
[01:14] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, I prefer ReiserFS
[01:14] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, oh you mean partition type
[01:14] <Bossmanbeta> sorry
[01:14] <Bossmanbeta> yea extended works
[01:14] <cyberphaz> jedi?
[01:14] <cyberphaz> mt
[01:14] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Yeah... Should that be primary or extended?
[01:14] <[nrx] > extended :)
[01:14] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, most boxes wont allow more than 4 primary partitions
[01:15] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, so extended helps
[01:15] <sam1> help help for xmms player or mplayer
[01:15] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I have only one on my laptop.
[01:15] <Zemus> how do I put my file back from an executable to a text file? I changed it with chmod 700 :$
[01:15] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, it doesn't matter really... extended works fine
[01:16] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, it is giving me shutdown: time expected. I have read the help it gives me and tried a few variations, but I do not know how to get it to execute
[01:16] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, why would u want to undo it
[01:16] <Tasmaniac> to stick rm before everyline you could just sed 's/^/rm /' <delfilename
[01:16] <Bossmanbeta> BernieMac, you want to do "shutdown now"
[01:16] <sam1> help help for xmms player or mplayer
[01:17] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, just answer the question, please, instead of questioning my motives
[01:17] <BernieMac> root@Ubuntu:/home/ben# ./shutdown now
[01:17] <BernieMac> shutdown: time expected
[01:17] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I don't mean to seam snappish, but I get that a lot from #ubuntu and #debian... when I ask a question instead of answering it everyone goes "why", I mean, it doesn't matter why, please, just help me :(
[01:17] <sam1> help help for xmms player or mplayer
[01:18] <spanther> Zemus, because of asking why is easier work x)
[01:18] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Aaaand... The final conclusion is... My ubuntu laptop is the one not playing nice! =( I booted from livecd, ran iptables --flush and ifconfig eth0, voila! I can see all my shared folders under network.
[01:18] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, just change the # to what rights you want
[01:18] <Sijmes_> where does my usb stick get mounted ..its stopped appearing on my desktop ...?
[01:18] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: I wonder what the problem is.
[01:18] <seraph34> sam1, just ask your question
[01:18] <SlimeyPete> !ask | sam1
[01:18] <ubotu> sam1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:18] <BernieMac> Zemus, could you just sudo gedit it?
[01:18] <Zemus> BernieMac, yeah, I just researched it elsewhere and understand what chmod actually did to it -- I'll put it back now.
[01:18] <Tominator> does anybody know a possibility to test whether my 5.1 card works or not? rhythmbox doesn't use the rear boxes, does it?
[01:18] <sam1> i need to play mpeg and wav files in ubuntu plz dont reffer me to go to the sites
[01:18] <sam1> i hve some broken packages
[01:19] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, you can do chmod 666 on that file to remove the exwcuate rights
[01:19] <sam1> http://pastie.caboo.se/97615
[01:19] <sam1> u can chek it from the site
[01:19] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, chmod just changes the rights on a file...
[01:19] <parmomike> quick question about processors: I have a Pentium-D dual core. it's described as a 64bit with x86 architecture - which version of ubuntu should i be using - x86 or 64??
[01:19] <cyberphaz> anyone know of a package that automaticly adds rules to iptables when they detect say, a bruteforce ssh attack?
[01:20] <sam1> ffrom last 4 days i m here for this but still hanging on the walls
[01:20] <Ar_Pharazon> Bossmanbeta: Fun fact: I enabled simple file sharing again and it all seem to be working fine despite that. Though I'm not sure what would happen after restarting.
[01:20] <SlimeyPete> parmomike: either. 64 will allow you to have more RAM and is in theory a bit faster, but setting up flash & java can be tricky.
[01:20] <SlimeyPete> 32 will work just fine
[01:20] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, yeah, I understand that now ;)
[01:20] <parmomike> ah ok, cos im having probs with 32bit version and wondered if i should be on t'other
[01:20] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, chmod just puts rights on a file for 3 groups... [user level] , [group level] , [anyone else]  .. so chmod 666 on a file would make it read/write ONLY for any user/group/anyone-else
[01:20] <ddalton> do I need virus protection on ubuntu like windows
[01:20] <[nrx] > sam1: what command are you running to give you that error?
[01:20] <BernieMac> Bossmanbeta, changing the actual file to shutdown now was a very bad idea haha. shutdown the system, wireless card is still running though...
[01:21] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, again, I understand that :)
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> The first digit is user, then group, then everybody else. The digits are definied
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> below:
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 7 - Read, Write, Execute
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 6 - Read, Write
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 5 - Read, Execute
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 4 - Read
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 3 - Write, Execute
[01:21] <Ar_Pharazon> Ok, so, can anyone please help me with one or more of the following, preferable the latter: A) resize my ubuntu partition B) Reset all ethernet and sharing related settings on my ubuntu laptop
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 2 - Write
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> 1 - Execute
[01:21] <Sijmes_> does anyone know where my usb stick get mounted ..its stopped appearing on my desktop ...?
[01:21] <BernieMac> !virus | ddalton
[01:21] <ubotu> ddalton: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> so 700 put read/write/execute on the USER only ... then nothing for groups/anyone-else
[01:21] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, though changing the rights in the first place was totally unnecessary, since I'm the only one who uses this machine... I could have just sudo ./file or even ./file since I was logged in as root anyway xD
[01:21] <sam1> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstr eamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins -ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracod ecs ogle ogle-gui
[01:21] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, STOP SPAMMING
[01:21] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, without putting execute rights on that file, you could not have executed it
[01:21] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I understood how it worked minutes and minutes ago, please, seriously just stop
[01:21] <Zemus> haha
[01:22] <sam1> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[01:22] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, I could have as root :P
[01:22] <ddalton> virus what about it?
[01:22] <Bossmanbeta> zemus well relax, I'm trying to explain it to you -- you apparently had no clue about it 40 lines ago.
[01:22] <ddalton> do I need protection like on windows
[01:22] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, <Zemus> BernieMac, yeah, I just researched it elsewhere and understand what chmod actually did to it -- I'll put it back now.
 Bossmanbeta, yeah, I understand that now ;)
 Bossmanbeta, again, I understand that :)
[01:22] <Sijmes_> help ..
[01:22] <Sijmes_> does anyone know where my usb stick get mounted ..its stopped appearing on my desktop ...?
[01:22] <Zemus> and then you pasted about nine more lines
[01:22] <Zemus> lol
[01:22] <Ar_Pharazon> Can anyone please help me with one or more of the following, preferable the latter: A) resize my ubuntu partition B) Reset all ethernet and sharing related settings on my ubuntu laptop
[01:23] <Zemus> no big deal, just getting the point across ;)
[01:23] <[nrx] > sam1: you need to get rid of the dependencies... but i can't help you wth that
[01:23] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, wow you appreciated all the right levels and everythign in that moment? amazing.
[01:23] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, no, before you started talking, I skimmed a chapter of my book here on chmod
[01:23] <sam1> nrx why
[01:23] <Bossmanbeta> damned if you do and damned if you dont ... <grumble>
[01:23] <sam1> i was waitting 4 u but u r away
[01:23] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, plus I had read about it about half a year ago, just forgotten, so all I needed was a 'fresher
[01:23] <Zemus> lol
[01:23] <[nrx] > sam1: try using google to find out how to resolve the dependecies problem
[01:24] <Bossmanbeta> well Zemus since I dont know you from a hole in the wall, how would I know that.. I was just trying to give you a full answer... <sigh>
[01:24] <Bossmanbeta> anyway, we move on
[01:24] <sam1> shall i quit from this os cuz of this problem ???
[01:24] <Zemus> you're ok in my books :P
[01:24] <davi> I want to compile and build the development version of Ubuntu. Any hint?
[01:24] <Zemus> xD
[01:24] <Bossmanbeta> wow its good to have that approval! <snarky>
[01:24] <Zemus> haha
[01:25] <etale> where does one go for changing the GDM in 7.04?
[01:25] <[nrx] > sam1: try running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:25] <etale> is there a gui way to do it?
[01:25] <Crozar> hi all
[01:26] <sam1> ok nrx
[01:26] <Crozar> me my friends now use linux instead of windows :)
[01:26] <sam1> sam@zyed:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[01:26] <sam1> Reading package lists... Done
[01:26] <sam1> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:26] <sam1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 844 not upgraded.
[01:26] <sam1> sam@zyed:~$
[01:26] <sam1> nrx
[01:27] <Crozar> u can use sudo here?
[01:27] <Crozar> lo
[01:27] <[nrx] > sam1: now try your previous command again
[01:27] <sam1> i m not in the root
[01:27] <[nrx] > sam1: and don't paste in here :) - use the pastebin
[01:27] <Pirate_Hunter> !pastebin
[01:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <Thomsen> Hi, can anyone help me with a NFS/autofs problem?
[01:28] <koudelka_> Knofi: open synaptic search for your package and right click on it and mark "reinstall"
[01:28] <sam1> nrx read the error   http://pastie.caboo.se/97626
[01:28] <koudelka_> Hello I got a Twinhan dvb pci tv card that shows up perfectly in lspci and the modules that are suposed to be needed are all loaded, but i still don't get a /dev/dvb or /dev/video what could be wrong? i'm guessing that there most be something messing up the modules, any help on how i can check if the modules is having some problems?
[01:29] <Bossmanbeta> .
[01:30] <[nrx] > sam1: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-us openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[01:32] <[nrx] > :o
[01:32] <broomad> hi, i got this problem: i wanted to install winxp and ubuntu oin my new 64 mashine, but when i want to launch the ubuntu disk i always get a x-widnow error and get back to the consol, what can i dO?
[01:32] <Pirate_Hunter> what are the torrent clients in ubuntu using gnome?
[01:33] <[nrx] > broomad: have you tried using the "Safe graphics mode" ?
[01:33] <IdleOne> !torrent
[01:33] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:33] <broomad> [nrx]  whrer to i select it?
[01:33] <[nrx] > broomad: it's the boot menu you get when you boot from the livecd
[01:33] <vancomycin> hi i am defragging my hdd with Perfectdisk on XP. (I couldn't run the guided partition free space step on the live cd) I hope that this will work after the defrag. My hdd is NTFS, does the new partition that ubuntu makes become FAT32? Also - I was reading from an ubuntu link that some people have a middle cushion space (NTFS-3G?) so that windows and ubuntu files can be transferred between to this space. However, the link noted that the
[01:34] <broomad> ok and there i switch to lower graphix
[01:34] <Crozar> do i need to defragment ubuntu?
[01:34] <[nrx] > broomad: just try the "Safe Graphics Mode"
[01:34] <broomad> ok, we'll see =) thx
[01:34] <[nrx] > broomad: np
[01:34] <raf256> how to rip a stupid ass dvd into hard drive?
[01:34] <IdleOne> Crozar: Linux does not need to be defragmented
[01:34] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: ubuntu does not make fat32, you cna keep it as reiserfs or ext3 depending on your choice
[01:35] <BernieMac> vancomycin, I believe the partition is ext3
[01:35] <IdleOne> !ohmy | raf256
[01:35] <ubotu> raf256: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:35] <matozoid> hi all! is there a way to install nvu on ubuntu?
[01:35] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, are you dualbootign?
[01:35] <Crozar> idleone ubuntu is a family right?
[01:35] <broomad> [nrx9 you mean the vga settings?
[01:35] <vancomycin> ok, i am completely new to this whole new language, what is this ext3? I keep seeing this on the psychostats.net ubuntu guide and forums...
[01:35] <Pirate_Hunter> raf256: sorry do not understand what your saying rephrase your sentence
[01:36] <vancomycin> @bossmanbeta yes i am planning to
[01:36] <vancomycin> i couldn't before
[01:36] <raf256> Pirate_Hunter: how to RIP a dvd into a hard drive so I can play it from hard drive
[01:36] <[nrx] > broomad: no. put the cd in the drive, reboot the computer and make sure it boots from CD. when the menu comes up, you'll have an option "Safe Graphics Mode". Select it.
[01:36] <IdleOne> !nvu | matozoid
[01:36] <ubotu> matozoid: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {dapper,edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[01:36] <vancomycin> rather i couldn't continue w/ the ubuntu install guided partition maker b/c my hdd was not defragged well
[01:36] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, the short of it is.. you can make your ubuntu partitions ext3 or reiserfs, but you can make a /home partition and make that fat32 so both windows and ubuntu can access it...
[01:37] <matozoid> IdleOne: thank you!
[01:37] <IdleOne> np matozoid
[01:37] <Rick__> hi...im using the alternate installation and i have windows on my other partition but, grub dont detect it. how can i enable it in the boot options ?
[01:37] <Pirate_Hunter> raf256: give me a sec i forgot the name of the soft ive got on my mind
[01:37] <sauvin> yes, you can make a /home partition FAT, but I don't recommend it.
[01:38] <Pirate_Hunter> raf256: have you tried the linux version of DVDshrink?
[01:38] <vancomycin> @bossmanbeta - 2 questions, what is reiserfs? is that an option in the installation process? and also - can i eliminate the /home prartition fat32, and use fs-drive itself? i'm not sure but this link which i will give at the end, mentioned fs-drive is nice, just trying to understand why
[01:38] <raf256> Pirate_Hunter: nope
[01:38] <Bossmanbeta> a better way to do it is make everything resierfs, then set a aside a partition that is fat32 for exhange between both OS's
[01:38] <vancomycin> the link > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning all the way down at the bottom
[01:38] <erUSUL> sauvin: no, you can not. neither fat or ntfs support the unix permissions bits so a home fat partition will be useless
[01:38] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you're going to have to do a lot of reading... it'll be hard to educate you on this subject in a chat session
[01:38] <panosru> Hi, Why when i modify my session settings my changes are not saved?:(
[01:38] <broomad> [nrx]  got it, but now my monitor went dark....?!
[01:38] <Pirate_Hunter> raf256: you should check out this tutorial it might help http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[01:39] <vancomycin> i've been trying bossmanbeta :(
[01:39] <Crozar> this is a crowd how can people communicate
[01:39] <BernieMac> vancomycin, I couldn't get the partitioner with the install to resize either. ended up using gparted, worked well for me. Just resize the windows partition down and make unallocated space the size you want your ubuntu drive to be. The ubuntu install will take it from there
[01:39] <[nrx] > broomad: let it sit for a few minutes
[01:39] <broomad> kk
[01:39] <sauvin> erUSUL, that was one of the reasons I don't recommend it (I didn't know you COULDN'T): permissions.
[01:39] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, I would recommend making all the ubuntui partitions reiserFS.... but then you want another partition just for data to be shared among both OS's ... and that partition can be fat32
[01:39] <Crozar> is theyr a way to raise ur hands up to question u know what i mean like paltalk
[01:39] <sauvin> If you push your home out to a FAT partition, *anybody* can raid it.
[01:39] <Crozar> this must be scripted for this channel lo
[01:40] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, resierFS is a filesystem, like ntfs
[01:40] <IdleOne> Crozar: we communicate by keeping the chatter to a minimum and addressing the person we are talking with in every sentence
[01:40] <noss> Just checking, a windowsfriend of mine asked what login to use on a fresh install of ubuntu. As I recall ubuntu asks you what user and password to use for the first user?
[01:40] <sauvin> noss: correct.
[01:40] <Pirate_Hunter> raf256: check this alsohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133642
[01:40] <vancomycin> @berniemac - i think the first time i ran the installer - it was b/c my single hdd was not defragged well. but i have seen others using gparted from the newbies forum. and also i WAS going to use partition magic, but after reading all the trouble people experienced from it, i am not touching it ;/
[01:40] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, the problem with fat32 is the file size limit (4gigs)
[01:41] <Minnozz> Hi, my internet connection died yesterday with this error:; http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=showpaste&paste=986
[01:41] <Minnozz> what does that mean?
[01:41] <sauvin> I used partition magic to shrink my XP partition without error.
[01:41] <BernieMac> vancomycin, yeah partition magic would not work for me well either
[01:41] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, GParted comes in a nice .iso you can burn to disc and boot off it to make your parititons up
[01:41] <sven_> Bossmanbeta, lol? 4gb sizelimit for fat32 ? thats a bad joke isnt it? :)
[01:41] <Bossmanbeta> you want to boot up off a CD like the live GParted CD becuase you can't mount yuor hard disk in any way if you plan to repartition it
[01:42] <BernieMac> vancomycin, windows didn't like part of my partition I guess, wouldn't fix the error with the usual chkdsk and what not, but gparted resized nicely, no data loss
[01:42] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_: nope thats true
[01:42] <Bossmanbeta> sven_, no it's shortsightedness of bill gates :) but unfortunately it's true
[01:42] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_:  4gb max
[01:42] <sven_> Pirate_Hunter, cant be true since i bought a harddrive what was pre-formatted with Fat32 and it was 320Gb lol
[01:42] <Crozar> for mobile gfx cards like Geforce Go cards must be updated through manufacture but in windows , omega drivers pass the boundaries and lets u install new drivers or just edit .inf files ,,
[01:42] <Bossmanbeta> sven_, but it's the best filesystem available that both win/lin can read/write to
[01:42] <Crozar> is theyr a way to get better drivers for ubuntu rather then classic default
[01:42] <BernieMac> sven_, it has a FILE size limit of fat32
[01:42] <SlimeyPete> sven_: *file* size
[01:42] <BernieMac> sry of 4 gb
[01:42] <SlimeyPete> not filesystem
[01:42] <vancomycin> @berniemac - did you use the gparted windows version and burned a boot disc from the iso?
[01:42] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_: there are ways of increasing it but normally it should be 4gb
[01:43] <SlimeyPete> do pay attention, 007 ;)
[01:43] <Bossmanbeta> linux has some ntfs write abilities, but it is not stable
[01:43] <sven_> ah files itself you mean
[01:43] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_: you cna google that yourself
[01:43] <Crozar> and this drivers im using doesnt have full suport , i dont have options where i can use my laptop on TV or panels ect.. :/
[01:43] <BernieMac> vancomycin, correct, booted the burned iso
[01:43] <sven_> mh okay got it wrong then thought you mean partition :)
[01:43] <Bossmanbeta> sven_, yes... any single filesize max is 4gigs
[01:43] <axz> anyone installed dreamweaver here withcrossover?
[01:43] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_: out of curiosity what were you doing with 320gb of Fat32 space
[01:43] <broomad> [nrx]  i don't think hes still doing sth....
[01:43] <sauvin> Sounds like a USB drive.
[01:43] <alecjw> hi. when i try ot compile soemthing i get htis error, does anyone know how i can fix  configure: error: Need linker with .init_array/.fini_array support.
[01:44] <sven_> Pirate_Hunter, lol :> um yeah movies? *g*
[01:44] <vancomycin> @bossmanbeta - where can i read the benefits of  reiserFS vs ext3 ? and is that an option to choose when installing from the live cd for a dual boot?
[01:44] <sven_> i have so much movies and music files i need storage space ;)
[01:44] <Bossmanbeta> there are 3rd party apps that allow windows to write to ext3... but i haven't tested them
[01:44] <Minnozz> what does "IRQ17: nobody cared" mean?
[01:44] <sauvin> vancomycin, I don't think reiserfs is generally considered very stable yet.
[01:44] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, plenty of places.. just google "reiserfs vs ext3"
[01:44] <[nrx] > broomad: i'm not an expert on X by any means.. it was my only suggestion, sorry :(
[01:44] <Rick__> hi..how do i make grub detect my windows installation? i did a update-grub but, it still did not list in the menu.1st file
[01:44] <BernieMac> vancomycin, you do not need to include the @ in your chats here. Just putting in the name highlights the line for that person
[01:45] <[nrx] > broomad: you could alwys try and download the alternate CD and install text based... or wait till someone more experienced in X comes along
[01:45] <vancomycin> ok , old irc habit :(
[01:45] <Crozar> for mobile gfx cards like Geforce Go cards must be updated through manufacture but in windows , omega drivers pass the boundaries and lets u install new drivers or just edit .inf files ,,
[01:45] <qleq4> My Ubuntu (FF 7.04) doesn't recognize my Canon A75 PowerShot digital camera. lsusb returns virtually nothing after connecting the camera and turning it on. Is this due to missing some kernel modules? or configuration of udev rules?
[01:45] <BernieMac> haha, yeah. yay for technology
[01:45] <broomad> [nrx]  ok, thx anyway
[01:45] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, ext3 = super stable ... ReiserFS = stable but not as old as ext3 and therefore not used on systems that need 100% stability... but for most people reiserFS is preferred becuase its a good chunk faster and the FSCK's are faster
[01:46] <Bossmanbeta> no one would say resierFS is not stable...but ext3 is around a LONG time and has the trust ot stability, that's all.
[01:46] <spanther> but what is the problem with limit filesize of 4gig ? isnt that big enough after all? :)
[01:46] <Pirate_Hunter> sven_: back...hmmm...? lol yeha right fat32 for films lol
[01:46] <vancomycin> hmm interestingly put bossmanbeta - can i set that up from the live cd ?
[01:46] <Crozar> when will ubuntu have complete support like an interface when u install the system it Draws u a managed orginized Look of ur hardware and what updates theyr is for it which it seeks for and gives u green light that ur on OmegaPoWeR
[01:46] <BernieMac> Pirate_Hunter, with a little compression that would be enough, would it not?
[01:46] <vancomycin> or while in gpart?
[01:46] <sauvin> Four gigs isn't very big when we're talking about massive database files, for example.
[01:46] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, yes reiserfs, ext2 and ext3 are available on the live cd
[01:47] <spanther> Pirate_Hunter, yeah i store movies and pictures and music on it and since it is fat32 i can use this drive on mac linux and windows computers as share drive so thats fine x)
[01:47] <Pirate_Hunter> spanther: now that makes sense
[01:47] <spanther> yep :)
[01:47] <Bossmanbeta> for a home pc you want resier for the speed.... if you were setting up a server at work to serve mail or web... you would use ext3
[01:47] <Pirate_Hunter> BernieMac: yeha but fat32 has poor compression
[01:47] <broomad> can sb. help me with my x-window error, during the ubuntu 64bit installtion?
[01:47] <gordonjcp> spanther: you can get ext3 utilities for Windows, apparently
[01:47] <sauvin> fat has compression?
[01:47] <gordonjcp> sauvin: npe
[01:47] <gordonjcp> nope even
[01:47] <BernieMac> Pirate_Hunter, fair enough, I am not too well versed in that area as of yet. just a thought
[01:47] <sauvin> Didn't think so.
[01:48] <Crozar> can any1 talk to me lo
[01:48] <spanther> gordonjcp, yeah i can but its crappy i've used it before once has many bugs and errors while initializing or scanning folders :)
[01:48] <vancomycin> so the FS-drive application would be useless if I set up my ubuntu partition with rseirfs?
[01:48] <sauvin> Crozar, what's up?
[01:48] <Pirate_Hunter> BernieMac: kl np
[01:48] <Crozar> when will ubuntu have complete support like an interface when u install the system it Draws u a managed orginized Look of ur hardware and what updates theyr is for it which it seeks for and gives u green light that ur on OmegaPoWeR
[01:48] <Bossmanbeta> actually to allow windows access to a resierFS is no issue, just leverage samba... but if it's the same physical box... that wouldn't work
[01:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Crozar: if you have a question ask
[01:48] <Crozar> im using geforce go ( mobile card ) ( laptop
[01:48] <spanther> fat32 is the only filesystem i know what i can use shared for all three operating systems at once without issues :)
[01:49] <Crozar> its using i think normal driver
[01:49] <Crozar> i want it to use optimum speed
[01:49] <gordonjcp> spanther: thing with fat32 is it doesn't store permissions or anything
[01:49] <sams> nrx
[01:49] <Crozar> like windows
[01:49] <[nrx] > sams:
[01:49] <vancomycin> hmmm not much talk about resierFS on the absolute newbie forum ;/ bossmanbeta :)
[01:49] <Crozar> and have options to configure like changing to Dual screen or split screen or using TV
[01:49] <spanther> gordonjcp, i know but thats not a problem i dont need permissions saved at files i store there (music movies etc.) :)
[01:49] <Bossmanbeta> If you want to use resierfs or ext3 on an external HDD (usb) then just attach it to a linux box and mount it as a shared resource from a windows box over samba...
[01:49] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, well ... I'm sure .. but what I said stands :)
[01:50] <Crozar> ?
[01:50] <BernieMac> so just for future reference(don't plan on setting up now) is setting up the TVout pretty easy in ubuntu?
[01:50] <Crozar> no not a reference
[01:50] <Crozar> actually let me tell ut his
[01:50] <Crozar> im using laptop but on CRT lo
[01:50] <Crozar> i cant use laptop LCD
[01:50] <vancomycin> hehe, usually if i do a search on there bossmanbeta - just in the absolute newbie forum there are at least 5++ pages, searching for resierFS in "entire text" gave me only "8 Topics" :)
[01:51] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, when picking a filesystem there's little you need to worry about... you pick and move on ...
[01:51] <Crozar> it just gives me something about Server X and somethign that no monitor
[01:51] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: we have downgraded for reseirfs to fat32 hmmm... i think someone should start worrying
[01:51] <spanther> i mean who needs permissions at media files you want to play them everywhere when you plug in the drive to a computer so its fine as it is :)
[01:51] <vancomycin> right, i know at least in windows i was kicking myself in the but for getting a FAT32 external.
[01:52] <sams> r u therr ???
[01:52] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, however you WILL notice a speed diff if you go reiser
[01:52] <sams> thank GoD
[01:52] <sams> SO NRX
[01:52] <sams> did u read the error
[01:52] <Wipster> hello all, anyone know why my volume control popup thing keeps changing randomly when I use my keyboard media keys, from a nice compact one to a huge semi transparent thing
[01:52] <[nrx] > what error?
[01:52] <Crozar> i want to use my laptop screen but how can i switch when i pull the CRT wire and restart it will not start it it just goes black screen
[01:52] <sams> nrx http://pastie.caboo.se/97631
[01:52] <[nrx] > i gave you a solution
[01:52] <fbn> hi, is there an irc channel for LinuxMCE?
[01:52] <[nrx] > sam1: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-us openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[01:52] <fbn> ??linuxMCE
[01:52] <_cerberus_> when attempting to install flash from the repositories I keep being told that the MD5 doesn't match, does anyone else have this problem, or a solution?
[01:52] <spanther> Bossmanbeta, yeah this shared thing works with samba but then i need a linux box what connects to this drive at first or i need a network LAN interface on my drive :)
[01:52] <crdlb> Wipster, it's a feature that turns on automatically when you start your session with compiz or beryl
[01:53] <crdlb> I don't know of any way to disable it unfortunately
[01:53] <Bossmanbeta> spanther, yep... agreed... it's not the right solution for all needs
[01:53] <[nrx] > sam1: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-us openoffice.org-l10n-en-za
[01:53] <Crozar> might ask my question at midnight
[01:53] <howlingmadhowie> mon ei
[01:53] <howlingmadhowie> mon dieu. sometimes i breathe a sigh of relief when i return to ubuntu...
[01:53] <Wipster> crdlb, it is a bit random if its that one or the other one tho, bit strange
[01:54] <BernieMac> Crozar, depending on where you are that might be a while...17 hours for me
[01:54] <Pirate_Hunter> am i the only one who doesnt have access to the automatix site? cna someone please check for me
[01:54] <Crozar> anyone know about laptops
[01:54] <Crozar> or should i give up on having  ubuntu on my laptop
[01:54] <nightstalker> Hello
[01:54] <IdleOne> !automatix | Pirate_Hunter why do you want to use it?
[01:54] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter why do you want to use it?: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:54] <BernieMac> Crozar, running it just fine on my laptop
[01:54] <spanther> Bossmanbeta, like i said fat32 is the best filesystem for harddrives what you want to use for multi platforms :)
[01:54] <Crozar> i have ubuntu on my laptop but using CRT NOT LAPTOP SCREEN :!!!! LCD
[01:55] <Crozar> i want to use it with the laptop lcd thats the screen on laptop
[01:55] <sams> ok
[01:55] <nightstalker> Hello
[01:55] <Zemus> I DID IT
[01:55] <sams> nrx next
[01:55] <Zemus> THE WIFI LIGHT IS NOW ON
[01:55] <Bossmanbeta> spanther, i think you mean "the only" ... to use to word "best" is bad judgement, I think. :)
[01:55] <jaro> jack sucks
[01:55] <Crozar> i formated 3 times
[01:55] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: i dont wnat to use it its the softwares there that i wnat to check, they have a good list i cna install manually... dont worry i learnt my lesson about not messing with automatx
[01:55] <Zemus> Does anyone want to know what the problem(s) w/as/ere.
[01:55] <Crozar> firstwas a try so dont count that
[01:55] <BernieMac> woooo Zemus!! mine just does this little flicker thing....god enough for me...
[01:55] <[nrx] > sams: what was the output?
[01:56] <spanther> Bossmanbeta, okay okay then the only *gg* but after all its all the same since when theres only one solution then this one is the best since no other exists XD :P
[01:56] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: your machine just wanted to make sure you knew :)
[01:56] <Wipster> crdlb, is this wierd volume daemon thing fixed or different in compiz fusion or will it be the same do ya know?
[01:56] <sams> no error
[01:56] <Crozar> my 2nd and 3rd try didnt go well
[01:56] <sams> seems working
[01:56] <Crozar> But when i put Live CD for ubuntu my laptop screen works
[01:56] <Bossmanbeta> well spanther when you have a hammer in your hand, everything around you starts looking like a nail after a while... in this case, fat32 is the hammer... not a fine tool, but... . ... a tool..
[01:56] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: cna you check for me if the site is not down caus ei cant get access to it
[01:56] <crdlb> Wipster, it's part of gnome (an ubuntu patch to gnome), so changing from beryl to compiz fusion won't affect it
[01:56] <Crozar> when installing then it gives me some Error no scren detected something like that
[01:56] <[nrx] > sams: so have you tried your original command now?
[01:56] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: please
[01:57] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: gimme a sec
[01:57] <crdlb> Wipster, for what it's worth, if you kill gnome-settings-daemon while using metacity, that will make it revert to the normal one
[01:57] <Crozar> ok il hold on my question
[01:57] <crdlb> for the rest of your session
[01:57] <Crozar> i will rest because i got a headache lo
[01:57] <Ax-Ax> why does my xcha systray icon pop up in a window?
[01:57] <sams> upgraded, 88 newly installed, 84 to remove and 622 not upgraded.
[01:57] <sams> Need to get 197MB of archives.
[01:57] <sams> After unpacking 65.5MB of additional disk space will be used.
[01:57] <sams> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[01:57] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, man, I got it :D
[01:57] <spanther> Bossmanbeta, since i never had file losses and it is fast for my needs (usb sticks included) i am fine with it :)
[01:57] <[nrx] > :)
[01:58] <Wipster> crdlb, lol how frustrating, ok thanks for your help in the matter :)
[01:58] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, got what
[01:58] <Bossmanbeta> spanther, good luck with that.
[01:58] <Zemus> I got my wifi working man :|
[01:58] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, updated firmware?
[01:58] <spanther> thank you *g*
[01:58] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: doesnt seem to be loading
[01:58] <Bossmanbeta> spanther, any time..
[01:58] <spanther> lol
[01:58] <sams> it is deleting something
[01:58] <sams> still processing
[01:58] <Bossmanbeta> spanther, lol, indeed...
[01:58] <Zemus> Bossmanbeta, ok, so... I reinstalled with the latest version of ndiswrapper, then realized that it worked before because I was using x86 iso, and now I'm using x64, why isn't it working...? Because I need x64 windows drivers for ndiswrapper! So I used those, and then I had to re-modprobe ndiswrapper after I rebooted
[01:59] <Zemus> it works now :D
[01:59] <Zemus> I just ran a scan. It's beautiful. :D
[01:59] <Bossmanbeta> lol
[01:59] <Bossmanbeta> x64
[01:59] <Bossmanbeta> you NEVERmentioned you were on x64
[01:59] <Ax-Ax> why does my xcha systray icon pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[01:59] <vancomycin> bossmanbeta : Reiserfs, what problems can i face with this? also take a look at this link http://www.fs-driver.org/ (just the overview) if you have a few... i wouldn't be able to use this if i choose reiserfs huh?
[01:59] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you wont have ANY problems with reiser...
[01:59] <spanther> Zemus, grats :)
[01:59] <Zemus> spanther, danke :D
[02:00] <spanther> lol deutsch? xD
[02:00] <Bossmanbeta> Zemus, enjoy that "i fixed it" fuzzy feeling...
[02:00] <nightstalker> Hallo
[02:00] <nightstalker> Hallo Zemus
[02:00] <sams> nrx its still in process
[02:00] <spanther> mine Intel Pro Wireless 3495 ABG worked very well without some fixing :)
[02:00] <neosix> hello people!!!
[02:00] <Bossmanbeta> and that is prob why it found the file, but not in MODPROBE becuase it saw the filename but was the wrong build
[02:00] <[nrx] > sams: l
[02:00] <[nrx] > sams: ok
[02:01] <sams> let it finish then i come to u
[02:02] <spanther> Bossmanbeta, but after all i love linux at most since its open and so its more secure and safe and free to download much better than commercial closed softwares with security holes like hell :)
[02:02] <Ax-Ax> in kde, why does my xchat systray icon pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:02] <neosix> I need help with latin font in open office. I'm from Serbia and when I load some .doc file I can't see latin serbian font. Can anybody help me?
[02:02] <Ax-Ax> and the kubuntu chanel sucks
[02:02] <wildchild> hello there
[02:02] <IdleOne> Ax-Ax: try asking in #xchat for support
[02:02] <wildchild> How can I check for all partitions on my PC ?
[02:03] <Ax-Ax> IdleOne; Ok, I'll ask about kde panels in #xchat.
[02:03] <IdleOne> Ax-Ax: or #kubuntu
[02:03] <spanther> Zemus, didnt knew that you're german :)
[02:03] <mitzevo> hi
[02:03] <Zemus> spanther, I'm not, I just say danke xD
[02:03] <spanther> i see lol
[02:04] <spanther> aber ich bin es hrhr *g*
[02:04] <attunix> Would it be terribly hard to make my own usplash theme?
[02:04] <attunix> !de | spanther
[02:04] <Ax-Ax> IdleOne; I've alredy asked the kubuntu chanel, long ago :(
[02:04] <ubotu> spanther: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:04] <[nrx] > what is edubuntu?
[02:04] <[nrx] > !edubuntu
[02:04] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[02:04] <[nrx] > d'oh
[02:04] <spanther> attunix, yeah i know about that but i like this chan here just wanted to show a bit :)
[02:05] <sams> nrx it shows that it will take 6 hiours
[02:05] <attunix> spanther: oh. ok :)
[02:05] <sams> oh God
[02:05] <mitzevo> i like cheese
[02:05] <IdleOne> Ax-Ax: ok well be patient and try asking again. here and #kubuntu sooner or later someone will be ablt to help
[02:05] <spanther> attunix, but thank you very much anyway :P
[02:05] <sams> can i install the new ubuntu???nrx
[02:05] <seanhodges> hey does anyone know how to add bookmarks in the Bazaar Olive GUI? (i've asked on #bzr, but they're a bit quiet this morning)
[02:05] <[nrx] > sams: well, you did select a lot of packages and if you're on a slow connection, that'll be the case
[02:05] <attunix> spanther: welcome :)
[02:06] <IdleOne> sams: hehe what did you expect? you have 844 packages to upgrade Im supprised it is only 6 hours
[02:06] <[nrx] > sams: if you want info on Gutsy, join #ubuntu+1
[02:06] <spanther> attunix, but youre responding was very fast hrhr *g*
[02:06] <[nrx] > IdleOne: lol
[02:06] <vancomycin> hey bossmanbeta, what about that fs-driver.org link i posted up about? i won't be able to use that no more if i switch to reiserfs?
[02:06] <Ax-Ax> IdleOne; I did that, but in #ubuntu they complained :)
[02:06] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, that app seems to work with ext2 only
[02:07] <[nrx] > Ax-Ax: you're in #ubuntu
[02:07] <Ax-Ax> yes
[02:07] <IdleOne> Ax-Ax: lol how dare they complain. next time you are there tell them IdleOne said it was ok :P
[02:07] <IdleOne> ummm wait
[02:08] <IdleOne> say it was Seveas  lmao
[02:08] <sauvin> vancomycin, no, an ext[23]  driver would work only with ext[23] ; reiserfs is a VERY different animal.
[02:08] <Seveas> @lart IdleOne
[02:08] <IdleOne> hahaha
[02:08] <IdleOne> good morning dude
[02:08] <IdleOne> :)
[02:08] <vancomycin> oh i am quoting from this site (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning) from the bottom : This last dual-boot scenario is my favorite now that I know about FS-Drive, which is a small program that allows Windows to read from and write to Ext3 partitions. So FAT32 can go out the windowone less partition to worry about and none of the limitations of FAT32 (no file permissions, lots of fragmentation, and a file size limit of 4 GB).
[02:08] <vancomycin> Note that in this scheme, unlike the one above it, it's not just the settings that live in the /home partition but the shared data as well.
[02:08] <vancomycin> "
[02:08] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you dont want to run ext2 -- it's a very old filesystem... you don't want to hamper your linux install just to keep it windows-addressable... I'd recommend creating a partitionf or data  you want to share between the 2 OS's and format that to fat32.... but let linux thrive on reiser
[02:08] <Ax-Ax> It meant that IdleOne  complained :P
[02:08] <panosru> how i can add the clock again to panel?
[02:09] <sauvin> I understand that the Windows driver is ext2; people who use it capitalise on the fact that ext3 is just ext2 with journaling added. Caveat: the ext3 volume HAS to have been properly umounted.
[02:09] <panosru> i closed it by mistake :S
[02:09] <kost_> hello everyone.
[02:09] <Ax-Ax> Theres no ops in #kubuntu
[02:09] <IdleOne> panosru: right click > add to panel
[02:09] <panosru> IdIeOne, i try to find it there but i can't find it
[02:10] <MrLinux> I have problem !! with installing the Ubuntu on my iBook g3 :((
[02:10] <panosru> IdIeOne, lol i found it sorry!
[02:10] <IdleOne> panosru: np
[02:10] <MrLinux> who can help me ?
[02:10] <MrLinux> who can help me ?
[02:10] <[nrx] > !ask
[02:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:10] <vancomycin> ok bossmanbeta : Pictured above is a more common scenarioa Ubuntu partition, a Windows partition, and a FAT32 partition in the middle to share data between the two operating systems //// this uses something called NTFS-3G . >>> i can have the ubuntu partition as reseirfs as you mentioned and keep a scheme like this mentioned in the beginning of the sentence?
[02:11] <IdleOne> MrLinux: I found that when it comes to Mac and Linux your better off leaving the mac OS on there
[02:11] <gehel_> IdleOne: on the MacBook, Ubuntu works perfectly well.
[02:11] <noni_chat_yukk> yuk
[02:11] <gehel_> MrLinux: but no experience on G3
[02:11] <elkbuntu> MrLinux, is g3 ppc or intel?
[02:11] <panosru> I have an issue with System -> Preferences -> Sessions even if i make changes to the list, everytime i reboot my changes are gone :(
[02:12] <spanther> elkbuntu, i hardly think its PPC :)
[02:12] <MrLinux> ubotu, I boot up the Desktop CD I enter it ... boot it and my screen rezolution is not corect ! is a doble screen... and I can' see the bottons to install.. I want to put it on 800x600 to see
[02:12] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, I dont know what ntfs-3g is... but all i am saying is... but linux on a proper format (ext3 or reiser) and carve a partition to be fat 32 addressable by both for sharing purposes... (or use a USB external hard disk in fat32 for that purpose)
[02:12] <Bossmanbeta> but=put
[02:12] <MrLinux> I boot up the Desktop CD I enter it ... boot it and my screen rezolution is not corect ! is a doble screen... and I can' see the bottons to install.. I want to put it on 800x600 to see
[02:12] <vancomycin> ok i like what you said bossmanbeta
[02:12] <vancomycin> makes it sound simple :)
[02:12] <Gosha> !grep
[02:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:13] <MrLinux> I want to install it.. :(
[02:13] <IdleOne> !ntfs-3g | Bossmanbeta vancomycin
[02:13] <ubotu> Bossmanbeta vancomycin: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:13] <elkbuntu> spanther, i have no clue with macs, just tryign to figure if he's trying to install the wrong type of ubuntu
[02:13] <MrLinux> who can help me ?
[02:13] <MrLinux> please..
[02:13] <Bossmanbeta> oh is that the unstable one that corrupts ntfs sectors? I read about that, just forgot the app name
[02:14] <vancomycin> now, <drumroll please> hehe , bossmanbeta - how do i go about doing that? :) creating a ubuntu partition and putting a fat 32 in the middle?
[02:14] <spanther> elkbuntu, yes but intel are inside the new macs the older ones all have PPC and G3 is a very old one since still G5 is old today :)
[02:14] <GlassJAw> i think i'll go ahead and say this while im here, iv used linux for a while, im mainly a gentoo user, i just started trying ubuntu today and i think its the best linux distro iv ever used </rant> :p , k, now im off to my other servers
[02:14] <Bossmanbeta> I haven't yet heard of a linux app that would write to NTFS and be stable too
[02:14] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, my fingertips can't handle that I dont think... :) but you'd use GParted (google that, you can download a live-cd iso that will allow you to resize and cut up the partitions)
[02:14] <elkbuntu> spanther, that is the timeline i was not sure of
[02:15] <GlassJAw> Bossmanbeta:  i havent heard of it doing it fully stable, but the new kernel has experimental ntfs write support
[02:15] <vancomycin> right that's what berniemac mentioned too
[02:15] <GlassJAw> iv used it a couple of times with no problems though
[02:15] <doudo> Hi, i was looking for supported hardware, seems ubunto nted intel as very good, but linux bios says intel is evil, i should buy i new mb, amd or intel?
[02:15] <Bossmanbeta> GlassJAw, yea, I'm aware of that.. but without stability -- who'd risk it for anything but experiemntal use... <rhetorical>
[02:15] <spanther> elkbuntu, no prob now you know it then hehe :)
[02:15] <br1tva> Hi all , can som one help me plese ? I need to instal cfdisk to my ubuntu system
[02:15] <GlassJAw> Bossmanbeta: agreed, if something does go wrong it would corrupt it beyong use
[02:16] <vancomycin> i am still writing to you via windows bossmanbeta, almost 96% complete with defragging my hdd with perfectdisk
[02:16] <sauvin> doudo, general opinion seems to be that intel hardware is better supported.
[02:16] <Bossmanbeta> GlassJAw, yeppers
[02:16] <br1tva> i have on desktop cfdisk,tar.gz , what i need to doo to instal it ?
[02:16] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, well download the GParted iso live-cd -- that's like the open source version of partition magic.. looks a lot like it too
[02:17] <doudo> sauvin, so last new q6600 and other from intel are well suppoted by free software? i can buy these ?
[02:17] <MrLinux> I need help
[02:17] <MrLinux> :(
[02:17] <Ax-Ax> tar -xvzf /home/user/desktop/cfdisk.tar.gz i think
[02:17] <sauvin> doudo, that, I can't answer. I've no idea what a q6600 is.
[02:17] <vancomycin> i am going downloading gpart now from sourceforge bossmanbeta
[02:17] <doudo> sauvin, i think it is core dua proc
[02:17] <Ax-Ax> br1tva; tar -xvzf /home/user/desktop/cfdisk.tar.gz i think
[02:18] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, good
[02:18] <jrib> br1tva: what do you want to do with cfdisk?  Delete that file because it is the wrong way to install things on ubuntu
[02:18] <Ax-Ax> or delet it
[02:18] <gearry> I recently upgraded to feisty and now firefox will not run
[02:18] <gearry> it stalls at launch, even if I use safe mode
[02:18] <doudo> sauvin, and for motherboard asus or gigabyte ?
[02:19] <mitzevo> hi
[02:19] <sauvin> doudo, I can't answer those kinds of questions. I'm not a hardware dude.
[02:19] <gearry> has anybody seen this?  seems very odd
[02:19] <gearry> i reinstalled the package, still no luck
[02:19] <Gosha> What can I use grep for?
[02:19] <br1tva> /q jrib  are you here ?
[02:19] <jrib> Gosha: to search the contents of files
[02:19] <linuxbeast> how much mb does a /boot partition need?
[02:19] <br1tva> ups
[02:19] <sauvin> Gosha: searching files for specific text.
[02:19] <jrib> br1tva: yes!
[02:20] <br1tva> i need make one more partition
[02:20] <doudo> i think there shoulkd be a clear list of fair hardware
[02:20] <Gosha> ... I see it's often used like .. <command> <option> | grep <something>
[02:20] <sauvin> Gosha: an example: printenv | grep HOME
[02:20] <Gosha> As if it's taking it from the program
[02:20] <sauvin> HOME=/home/sauvin
[02:20] <riaal_> Is there anyway to play mp3 files from the terminal? want to use ssh as remotecontrole
[02:20] <Gosha> Hah
[02:20] <howlingmadhowie> riaal_: mpg123
[02:20] <sauvin> The | is called a 'pipe' - you take the output of the first program and funnel it into the input of the second.
[02:20] <Ar_Pharazon> Hello, I want to resize my partition with gparted but it won't let me... All the options are grayed out. How come?
[02:20] <br1tva> jrib do you know way to do it ?
[02:21] <Gosha> Well, yeah .. but still ...
[02:21] <gearry> hrm, thunderbird will not run either, but all other apps seem to work fine
[02:21] <sauvin> But still what?
[02:21] <jrib> br1tva: the easiest way is to use system _> administration -> GNOME partition editor.  But you should not do this if your partition is mounted, so you may want to use a Desktop CD
[02:21] <gearry> weird
[02:21] <Gosha> Hmm
[02:21] <sauvin> grep means "global regular expression print", if that's helpful at all, if you know what a "regular expression" is.
[02:21] <Gosha> *tries*
[02:21] <vancomycin> i like the idea of having a "fat32 walkway" between ubuntu and windows. this way i can put files from windows that i need to there w/o copying to disk/external hdd. bossmanbeta - can I increase the partition size of the reseirfs ubuntu partition later? i have about now 20gb free... i want to put like 10gb for ubuntu(reseirfs) 5gb(for fat32 cushion) and remaining 5gb(windows). I have 80gb used in windows now. later on, can I use gparted
[02:21] <IdleOne> gearry: #ubuntu-mozillateam can help you more
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[02:22] <howlingmadhowie> riaal_: sorry, it's now called mpg321
[02:22] <Gosha> Oh, so for console apps it takes the line with the output in grep?
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you need a swap partition alow
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> laos*
[02:22] <familiargirl> hi everybody
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> also
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> (typos will grow as I get more tired) :)
[02:22] <Gosha> c..
[02:22] <Ar_Pharazon> Anyone? I'm hav
[02:22] <jrib> Gosha: yep, | can pipe stdout of one program to stdin of another program, and grep reads from stdin and searches that too
[02:22] <Ar_Pharazon> iI'm having trouble resizing my partition.
[02:22] <vancomycin> oh, yes i understand bossmanbeta - it's 08:20 ET for me and i haven't slept yet :)
[02:22] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, 10gig should be ok for the OS... (I'd prefer 15 but,... 10 works) ...
[02:22] <riaal_> howlingmadhowie, cheers
[02:23] <Bossmanbeta> same here vancomycin
[02:23] <Bossmanbeta> <--NYC
[02:23] <Gosha> Wait, what?
[02:23] <Gosha> Hmm
[02:23] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, how much ram is on the box?
[02:23] <vancomycin> <-- S. Eastern kentucky, appalachian mountains :(
[02:23] <sauvin> Gosha, try this: printenv > junkfile. You now have 'junkfile' in the current directory. Now, if you do a grep HOME junkfile, it'll have the same effect as what I showed you a few minutes ago, only, this time, it looked at a regular file instead of a pipe.
[02:23] <br1tva> jrib thanks :)
[02:23] <sauvin> In other words, you can do: printenv > file; grep HOME file
[02:23] <Pirate_Hunter> im back what did i miss
[02:24] <Gosha> Oh, and | is like, not putting it to a file and .. wait .. hmm
[02:24] <vancomycin> bossmanbeta - if i have 20gb to spare, how should i split this up? IF i need at least lets say 3gb for windows? provided that you said i need swap files?
[02:24] <Ax-Ax> ok, does anybody know why my xchat systray icon does pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:24] <Gosha> I see
[02:24] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, how much ram is on the box
[02:24] <sauvin> Correct. This is where you might get just a little bamboozled if you're used to other operating systems: in unix, everything is a file, and | is just a way of creating temporary files without creating actual files.
[02:24] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: 3gb for windows os r u sure
[02:25] <vancomycin> i have 1024gb, it's a compal hel-80 laptpop.
[02:25] <livecdn00b> How can I disable the join/leave messages in gaim?
[02:25] <vancomycin> 3gb free space pirate hunter -
[02:25] <sauvin> When you say "commandA | command B", you're saying "dump all of commandA's output for commandB to process".
[02:25] <Ar_Pharazon> Can anyone please help me resize a partition?
[02:25] <Bossmanbeta> 1 gig...
[02:25] <vancomycin> i have 80gb occupied now with all my medical school videos lectures which i will delete in the months to come
[02:25] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: what windows os r u installing that takes only 3gb
[02:25] <Gosha> Oh
[02:25] <Bossmanbeta> you will need at least a 1gig swap partition
[02:25] <vancomycin> no no... i have a 100gb hdd
[02:25] <Gosha> Any examples on that?
[02:26] <Gosha> expect for the grep
[02:26] <Bossmanbeta> how much total free space vancomycin
[02:26] <vancomycin> 80gb is used in windows now, i have 20gb free
[02:26] <Bossmanbeta> 20
[02:26] <sauvin> Hrm... how about "ls | sort"
[02:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: you cna use partition software like gparted to do it for you
[02:26] <Gosha> Ah, neat
[02:26] <Bossmanbeta> 10 for the os + home .... 1gig for swap ....  then put 9 to the fat32
[02:26] <Gosha> ..
[02:26] <Gosha> can I use sort for files?
[02:27] <frojnd> How can I check how many partitions (formated or no formated) I have ??
[02:27] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: ok, if you have 120 left 1gb swap and the rest for ubuntu if you want
[02:27] <sauvin> Gosha, hell, YES.
[02:27] <MrLinux> hellooooo
[02:27] <MrLinux> hellooooo
[02:27] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter I can't get gparted to work. When I boot normally the resize option is grayed out. When I boot from the live cd it says I need to check for errors.
[02:27] <MrLinux> I need some help..
[02:27] <Pirate_Hunter> and 80 gb is too much for windows unless you actually need it
[02:27] <jrib> frojnd: system -> administration -> GNOME partition editor
[02:27] <Bossmanbeta> but what i woudl do is REDUCE the NTFS partition
[02:27] <sauvin> Try this: cat junkfile | sort | less
[02:27] <jrib> !ask | MrLinux
[02:27] <ubotu> MrLinux: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:27] <Bossmanbeta> the windows ntfs isn't using all that space is it?
[02:27] <tifine> sudo apt-get install monkey
[02:27] <Gosha> eh
[02:27] <Gosha> what did it do?
[02:27] <MrLinux> jrib I boot up the Desktop CD I enter it ... boot it and my screen rezolution is not corect ! is a doble screen... and I can' see the bottons to install.. I want to put it on 800x600 to see
[02:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: hmmm load from the live CD choosing the first option that uses gui and it might be your downlaod or disk is all messed up
[02:28] <riaal_> howlingmadhowie, Do you know if it is possible to skip a song while running?
[02:28] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: hello how are you
[02:28] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter My download and/or disk are not messed up.
[02:28] <riaal_> mpg321 that is
[02:28] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you said you were defragging, I would reduce the size of the ntfs partition to give linux more breathing room
[02:28] <Bossmanbeta> GParted can do that 4 u
[02:28] <livecdn00b> How do you disable the join/leave messages in gaim?
[02:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: ok dont go defensive on me i forgot to type "might" on my last post
[02:28] <jrib> MrLinux: I meant ask the channel, but if system -> preferences -> screen resolution  does not fix your issue, I would use the alternate install cd to install and then troubleshoot after ubuntu is installed if you still have the problem
[02:29] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: hi
[02:29] <vancomycin> bossmanbeta - that would leave me 0mb free for windows then right? 10gb ubuntu(1gbswap) 9gb(fat32) can i do this? 10gb(ubuntu) 2gb(swap) 5gb (FAT32) 3gb(left over freespace for windows)
[02:29] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter Sorry... I didn't mean to. I'm positive my HD and cd are both working fine though.
[02:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: kk what is the error you get with gparted and did you check the md5 checksum? but why cant you use it
[02:29] <Bossmanbeta> van no...
[02:29] <sauvin> Gosha, it dumped the contents of the file to the screen, only, it never made it to the screen because it got fed into sort instead, and sort printed the sorted file to the screen, only, it never made it to the screen because a file viewer called less grabbed it and THAT'S what finally printed it to the screen.
[02:29] <MrLinux> jrib who do I make the screen rezolution up tu 800x600 frome console ?
[02:29] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, isnt windows on trhat 80 gig
[02:29] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter The... md5 sum? Hang on I'll boot from livecd and tell you the error.
[02:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: kk
[02:30] <Bossmanbeta> (this would be so much easier with voice ... irc sucks for in depth support)
[02:30] <vancomycin> ok bossmanbeta , i have a 100gb sata hdd .
[02:30] <sauvin> Bossmanbeta, not if both people are touch typers :D
[02:30] <vancomycin> i have 20hb free
[02:30] <Gosha> ... Yeah... Oh, it's a fi... XD ... I see now.
[02:30] <jrib> MrLinux: I don't know of an easy way, use the alternate cd if it is an issue
[02:30] <vancomycin> 80gb is used up with files
[02:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: voice errrh thats nasty believe me the spma on that is annoying thats why i dont use stuff like team speak
[02:30] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, skype would be my choice
[02:31] <Bossmanbeta> skyp eallows a conf call up to 9 people
[02:31] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta@ a voice version of irc dam that would be a bandwidth hog would feel sorry for ppl with slow net
[02:31] <vm> does anyone know if automatix is down or something?
[02:31] <vancomycin> pirate_hunter- i have about 60gb of the 80/100 in medical video lectures ...
[02:31] <Bossmanbeta> not to replace irc... but in addition to
[02:31] <frojnd> a
[02:32] <jrib> !automatix > vm (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:32] <Zemus> When I set my homepage, where is that information stored?
[02:32] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, I would recommend getting an external hard disk (usb) for those videos
[02:32] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: before i get involved in ur conversation what are you trying to do
[02:32] <MrLinux> jrib, I heave it.. but I try to install it.. and block it up at 100% just on my scren saying 'Cleaning up...'
[02:32] <Zemus> As in, where in the filesystem?
[02:32] <sauvin> Worse: this channel has a crapload of poeple in it - if it were VOICE, can you imagine the din if everybody were to talk up all at once?
[02:32] <jrib> Zemus: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox/PROFILE_DIRECTORY
[02:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: would you trust most ppl here on skype?
[02:32] <vancomycin> just what bossmanbeta suggested pirate_hunter
[02:32] <jrib> MrLinux: did you check the integrity of the cd?
[02:32] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, trust? it's voice over ip ... it's like i'm giving out my social sec #
[02:33] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: sorry i was out didnt get to read what he suggested... so ull have to explain to me what you are doing
[02:33] <Zemus> jrib, I looked there, there w
[02:33] <vancomycin> [08:11]  <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, I dont know what ntfs-3g is... but all i am saying is... but linux on a proper format (ext3 or reiser) and carve a partition to be fat 32 addressable by both for sharing purposes...
[02:33] <vancomycin> sorry i was trying to find it :)
[02:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: ROFL, LMO, thats just so funny
[02:33] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, you ever talk to someone you never met before? Skype offers that too ... just without the face-to-face :)
[02:33] <riaal_> anyone know if it is possible to change track in mpg321? (manpage is confusing me)
[02:33] <Zemus> ok, thanks
[02:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: I jsut find it weird talking to soemoen using voice when i dont know them, i still remember when i was used to gaming the dumbness on team speak
[02:34] <frojnd> can someone please spell my nick
[02:34] <IdleOne>  frojnd
[02:34] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, well you get over that.. think -- you're doing it right now.. what's the difference if you add voice... the throughput over text is a clear win
[02:34] <frojnd> thanx
[02:34] <IdleOne> np
[02:34] <Pirate_Hunter> frojnd: ???? what are you saying
[02:35] <vancomycin> so bossmanbeta was suggesting that I should create a reseirfs ununtu paritition / a fat32 space / and a windows partition (i want to have a dual boot laptop) i have 20gb free to do this
[02:35] <vancomycin> at the moment from a 100gb
[02:35] <frojnd> Pirate_Hunter: nothing, just trying to configure irssi
[02:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: typing good, you cnat recognise typing
[02:35] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin,  you need to REDUCE that widnows partition
[02:35] <vm> does anyone know if automatix is down or something?
[02:35] <jrib> !automatix | vm
[02:35] <ubotu> vm: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:35] <Gosha> So, how can I take the First line of the output from a console-app?
[02:35] <Pirate_Hunter> frojnd: ok i dont use that so i cnat exactly help you
[02:35] <jrib> vm: do not use automatix
[02:35] <jrib> Gosha: head -n 1
[02:35] <Gosha> oh wait
[02:35] <Gosha> ..
[02:35] <IdleOne> vm: dont use Automatix and yes the site is down
[02:35] <jrib> !cli > Gosha (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:35] <Gosha> head?
[02:35] <vm> jrib: i have used it for ages, never had a problem with it
[02:36] <livecdn00b> !worksforme > vm
[02:36] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, hey if you have some sex-slaves screaming from the basement or something else to hide, I can understnad why you'd shy away from voice.. :)  but to me, if you walked into a caffeteria or public place and met someone and started talking ... that's no diff than having a 4hr typing marathon w/them except you get to do it faster and add inflexion
[02:36] <Pe3k_> hello, pls I need help with my internet connection. I have on my box dapper 6.06 installed and there internet works good; I installed feisty fawn on another partition and can't set up internet there. I am trying to connect via wifi pci card, this card is able to find access point, but I can't ping it. here are some outputs of commands http://pastebin.com/m31eaf3c1
[02:36] <sauvin> Gosha, yes, head prints the first n lines of a file. tail does the same thing for the LAST n lines.
[02:36] <vancomycin> how do i reduce that windows partition bossmanbeta? i was hoping that i could slowly decrease that in the next months after burning/putting them on an external hdd and then put that uncessary windows space back into ubuntu or fat2 space
[02:36] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: is the automatix site working for you could you check cause i cnat gain access to it and no i dont want it to install the soft for me i want to look at the useful suggestions in their list and install it myself
[02:36] <Bossmanbeta> van in windows, you're not using all that 80
[02:36] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: it's down
[02:37] <frojnd> anyway Hoe can I in terminal what partitions do I have (formated and not formated)
[02:37] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: true
[02:37] <vancomycin> i am at the moment
[02:37] <Gosha> Neat
[02:37] <frojnd> anyway How can I check in terminal what partitions do I have (formated and not formated)
[02:37] <sauvin> frojnd, sudo fdisk -l
[02:37] <vm> what is the console command to install java?
[02:37] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: thanx had to make sure and i was lookign for a specific soft they had in their list :(
[02:37] <frojnd> sauvin: thanx
[02:37] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you should give linux more room and resizing later will be hassle
[02:37] <attunix> PriceChild: did you just pm me?
[02:37] <sauvin> I installed ubuntu on a 13 GB partition and *THAT* was a mistake.
[02:38] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: just use gparted to increase or decrease your partition and windows should have at least 40gb minimum when dual booting but than that my opinion
[02:38] <vancomycin> ok bossmanbeta : if i right click > properties c:\ drive > 75.1GB USED / 17.9GB FREE
[02:38] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, i would recommend waiting to install linux.... buy a 250gig external USB hard drive and you can format that fat32 if you want (but rememebr the 4gig filesize limit) -- or format it NTFS so you can dump your movies on th ere...... then reduce your windows parititon to give linux more room
[02:38] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter  Ok, in tdetails it says "check filesystem on sda2 for errors and (if possible) fix them". When I expand that, it says "e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda2". When I expand that, I get "sda2 mounted" (I just unmounted it) and "e2fsck: 1140 WIP (14 Nov 2006) \n e2fsck Cannot continue, aborting"
[02:38] <vancomycin> i am about to burn a dvd that has 3gb of data to make it an even 20gb free
[02:39] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter  How *do* I check for errors in ubuntu?
[02:39] <sauvin> livecdn00b, why are you using gaim to connect to IRC?
[02:39] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, a proper linux needs about 15 gigs for the OS... 1-2 gigs for the swap... and 30+ gigs for /home
[02:39] <livecdn00b> sauvin: This is on the livecd
[02:39] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: sda2 would be ur linux partition if your using one hd and you have to use fdisk command
[02:39] <vancomycin> oh :(
[02:39] <Bossmanbeta> your home is like your "my documents"
[02:39] <Tomcat_> 15 gig for OS? Wow. :)
[02:40] <sauvin> xchat-gnome is also on the livecd, no?
[02:40] <livecdn00b> sauvin: no
[02:40] <vancomycin> 30gb for the /home meaning the FAT32 ??
[02:40] <Bossmanbeta> Tomcat_, it only uses about 3.5 ... but you want room to install applications and such
[02:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: oops fck not fdisk
[02:40] <Tomcat_> Bossmanbeta: I've never used more than 5 GB for /... and I never had problems. ;)
[02:40] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, 30gig home in reiser
[02:40] <Tomcat_> Bossmanbeta: I'd say 10 was okay... but 15... maybe a bit much. I don't have that big of a hard drive either. ;)
[02:40] <vm> would anyone know why my frostwire wont start?
[02:40] <sauvin> Tomcat, the base OS installs in something like three gigs. HOWEVER... after you download this browser and that audio codec library and a couple of compiler suites and... and... and.... yea. You need some breathing room.
[02:40] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter I tried doing it again, didn't give me the error right away this time. It says it's reszizing... If this doesn't work I'll try doing what you said.
[02:41] <Bossmanbeta> Tomcat_, yea I hear ya, I like to give OS's room for apps
[02:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: check this out http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/fsck.htm
[02:41] <Tomcat_> sauvin: My / is 4 GB, I have more apps than I use installed and I got 1 GB free. I'll go for 5 GB next time, but this is really enough for me ;)
[02:41] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, in your scenario ... you should reduce your windows partition
[02:42] <sauvin> Tomcat, you have other places to store crap you download, right? I have an external drive packed with tunes...
[02:42] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: there should be some kind of bot that provides useful links to new comer i.e. the structure of linux how folder, hd, files are seen by linux etc. this shoudl eb implemented in this irc channel
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> Tomcat_, yea I'm trying to give suggestions that won't create a cramped siutation and fits general purpose needs, all subject to opinion
[02:42] <Tomcat_> sauvin: Downloads are in /home, and that's seperate anyway. :D
[02:42] <vm> can anyone suggest a good p2p program on the gnutella network?
[02:42] <Tomcat_> Bossmanbeta: Of course. :-)
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, well reading "how best to partition ubuntu" in google might help
[02:42] <seqizz> hi, my dvd-ram don't using dma. how can i enable it? hdparm -d /dev/hda, it says HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Permission denied ???
[02:43] <Tomcat_> seqizz: use "sudo hdparm"
[02:43] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: all you have to do is make a useful wiki page and then ask one of the ops to add a !factoid :)
[02:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: new comers dont do that human interaction on irc is better
[02:43] <seqizz> Tomcat_:  i am root
[02:43] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, the idea is your /home partition is your MY DOCUMENTS folder (plus some other things) ... so imagine what kind of sdpace you'd like for that... that's why I'm saying reduce that windows partition once you get an external usb drive
[02:43] <fermatstheorem> I am root therefore I am
[02:44] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: wiki useful but annoying at the same time yet doing it that way is long
[02:44] <vm> can anyone suggest a good p2p program on the gnutella network????
[02:44] <Tomcat_> seqizz: Weird.
[02:44] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta, vancomycin: technically /home/<user>= documents and settings/<usser> of windows
[02:44] <IdleOne> !p2p | vm
[02:44] <ubotu> vm: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:44] <Pirate_Hunter> vm: try bearshare or frostwire
[02:44] <vancomycin> bossmanbeta - i value your opinions - they do make sense... however, i don't have any external hdd to spare or buy atm.. and have this much to play around with for now. but what i was worried about is why i couldn't at a later time get a external hdd and reduce the windows size then, and then "put back" the unecessary space to ubuntu or /home or fat32 space
[02:45] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, i wasn't trying to be document-precise.. I was trying to convey a concept, but thanks for your input! :)
[02:45] <seqizz> Tomcat_:  yes weird i think so :) but i will be crazy, writing a dvd for 40 min.
[02:45] <vm> when I install frostwire, in the menu it has no icon, and when i click it nothing happens
[02:45] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: it never hurts to be pedantic :-P
[02:45] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: if you have 80gb for windows, than use 40 gb for ubuntu and 1gb swp and add the rest when you need it
[02:45] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you can do that... but if you like system stability, that path of action is not the best chocie of action in my humble opinion :)
[02:45] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter I don't like the look of this. Livecd's gparted resized my sda2 from 15 gb to 80 gb... But now I have 71 gb full.
[02:46] <Pirate_Hunter> The way my hd is: 40 m$ xp, 40 GB Ubuntu and the rest is for future use
[02:46] <Pirate_Hunter> Ar_Pharazon: kk do you know what you are doing with gparted, i dint read the manual the first time and things went smoothly
[02:46] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter I'm getting the disk usage analyzer thing to scan it.
[02:47] <Zemus> Is adobe flash in the repos?
[02:47] <Pirate_Hunter> brb going to help with the car dont ask anymore on this subject
[02:47] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, well if all you have is 20... then put 8 for the OS, 1 for the swap, 6 for /home and 5 for your fat32 sharing partition
[02:47] <IdleOne> !flash | zemd
[02:47] <ubotu> zemd: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:47] <IdleOne> !flash | Zemus
[02:47] <ubotu> Zemus: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:47] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter Know as in? I know I'm resizing a partition, so that the files aren't touched and the unused hd space is added to that partition as free space.
[02:47] <Zemus> thanks IdleOne :D
[02:48] <vancomycin> i see bossmanbeta - i know you're saying this b/c you have experience. I wasn't planning on putting anything major on ubuntu - i just want to start getting use to it. right now my medical school projects and such with my colleagues are all win based.
[02:48] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, ok then go with my #s above
[02:48] <vancomycin> i just wanted a safe and clean OS to run at home when not in a school environment
[02:49] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you will want the /root to be primary .. the rest can be extended
[02:49] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: to write reports that look professionaly type-set try playing around with lyx
[02:49] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter Oh God. This is just great... Disk usage analyzer shows my disk size as 15 gb. When I go to computer, and right click filesystem then do properties, it says the size is "unknown".
[02:49] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter  I really don't like the look of this.
[02:49] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: let us not forget /boot, separate /boot partition has proven to save lives
[02:49] <vancomycin> basically net browsing... but if i wanted to put some of my files that i have in windows and use in ubuntu i still wanted a few gb for a fat32 partition.
[02:50] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, he will make a / partition which will cover /boot
[02:50] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: i agree. when we fsck up the system, separate /boot atleast helps us to boot into the other OS
[02:50] <axz> Whats best PHP editor for ubuntu
[02:51] <xero9364> axz: gedit
[02:51] <xero9364> WYSIWYG editors suck.
[02:51] <axz> he has color highlight?
[02:51] <adaptr> vimacs!
[02:51] <Bossmanbeta> I am suggesting he goes / (8gigs) /swap (1gig) /home (6gigs) and an extended / for fat32 to share with his windows (he wants a common space to share between the dual boots) (5gig)
[02:51] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem,  ?? putting /boot in / does nothing to affect dual-boot ability, sir.
[02:51] <xero9364> Why must there be a seperate partition for /home?
[02:51] <xero9364> Bossmanbeta, that's true.
[02:51] <Ar_Pharazon> Pirate_Hunter So... What do I do?
[02:52] <vancomycin> so bossmanbeta, then i wont have any free for windows with that right? [08:46]  <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, well if all you have is 20... then put 8 for the OS, 1 for the swap, 6 for /home and 5 for your fat32 sharing partition ? can i put like 3gb for fat32 and have like 2gb left on windows? i'm just trying to think along the patterns that you are saying
[02:52] <xero9364> Putting /boot in / does nothing to the dual boot except for make it work.
[02:52] <vancomycin> I am going to try and free another 10gb before i do this bossmanbeta
[02:52] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: i agree about dual boot, but when new users hose the / partition...
[02:52] <vancomycin> you've tripped me out :)
[02:52] <terlmann> ok I need some help. I presume the archive in /usr/share/linux , linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz2 contains the latest source AND the ubuntu patches, am I right ?\
[02:52] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, your current windows install has some free space, right
[02:52] <Bossmanbeta> that's what windows will still have
[02:52] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: yes
[02:52] <vancomycin> yes, just 20gbs.
[02:52] <vancomycin> thats all i have free
[02:53] <terlmann> is it the correct procedure then to apply any patches I have to it ?
[02:53] <Ar_Pharazon> Hmm... Actually, does anyone know how I can backup my programs/files/config files to another partition prior to wiping and reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:53] <terlmann> patch 2.6.22
[02:53] <xero9364> I have 40gb free.
[02:53] <vancomycin> before doing anything - i am going to try and free another 10gb more
[02:53] <terlmann> is one
[02:53] <Bossmanbeta> van... well then make that fat32 whatever u want to accomodate
[02:53] <terlmann> is it alreasy there you think ?
[02:53] <vancomycin> right, and I do all of this in GPART?
[02:53] <xero9364> GParted
[02:53] <xero9364> Yes.
[02:53] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: thats the 2.6.22 release
[02:53] <terlmann> also , patch020070904 is another I want to apply to my source
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, opinions abound I'm just giving mine.
[02:54] <terlmann> and patch 2.6.23-rc4-mm1
[02:54] <vancomycin> right i downloaded the 0.3.4-8.iso livecd of goarted
[02:54] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: gunzip/untar it and use the patch command
[02:54] <terlmann> can I apply those in sequential order to my sources?
[02:54] <vancomycin> gparted*
[02:54] <terlmann> and have it working
[02:54] <Ar_Pharazon> Please, anyone? Just tell me what/how to backup and I'll leave you in peace. I'm positive it will solve all my problems. Err. For the time being.
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, burn that and boot it -- it will allow you to do all this we've discussed
[02:54] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: i guess we are kinda quite enthusiastic about welcoming new linux users :)
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, I'd say you were, I'm just chatting with a fellow who's asking for help
[02:55] <xero9364> I have a question about the 2.4 kernel tree.
[02:55] <Spee_Der> Good morning. Anyone here using or familiar with Xephem, especially in Feisty Fawn v.704 please.
[02:55] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: synaptic ->home user backup
[02:55] <xero9364> Do they actually still work on it?
[02:55] <terlmann> Ar_Pharazon : you could just copy your /home/ dir to a cdrom
[02:55] <xero9364> terlmann, what I do for backups is called "large external drive"
[02:55] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: no hard feelings! just plain old harmless (0ver) enthusiasm on my part :).
[02:55] <Ar_Pharazon> terlmann Ok, so what about programs I've installed? Netbeans and opera are the ones that matter really.
[02:56] <terlmann> you can always get those again
[02:56] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: netbeans - i assume you have some java code? you can backup your java code as regular files. opera - your settings are in you rhome folder
[02:56] <xero9364> Do they still work on the 2.4.* kernel tree?
[02:56] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, it's ok -- speech is free, reveling in it keeps it alive... enjoy
[02:57] <terlmann> ok , I downloaded the latest 2.6.22 performance patch. is it already applied to the ubuntu archive?
[02:57] <vancomycin> fermatstheorem , what did you mean by this? [08:51]  <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: i agree about dual boot, but when new users hose the / partition...
[02:57] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin,  lol
[02:57] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: i ain't sure, i suggest you read hte release notes from ubuntu
[02:58] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem By the way, I want to make a 10 GB partition at the end of my disk to keep the backup, I should make it a primary and use reiserfs, is that so? And, all the stuff I've installed with wine are under home as well, right?
[02:58] <terlmann> ok
[02:58] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta, vancomycin: two is company, i suggest you talk to Bossmanbeta, he sure knows what he is talking
[02:58] <terlmann> is it safe to untar and | patch a patch from my homedir ?
[02:58] <vancomycin> no i am learning here :)
[02:58] <Bossmanbeta> nono that comment was all yours fermatstheorem
[02:58] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: usign hte same disk aint a great idea
[02:58] <vancomycin> and i will look into the lyx application you had mentioned -
[02:58] <Bossmanbeta> lol ..
[02:58] <xero9364> Do they still work on the 2.4.* kernel tree?
[02:58] <vancomycin> i just didn't understand that.
[02:58] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: yup. after you patch it put it in /usr/src and create symlink
[02:59] <dave4272> hello folks
[02:59] <terlmann> nono
[02:59] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem It's a laptop, I don't have much choice.
[02:59] <terlmann> if I | patch the patch file and the kernel is in a diff dir
[02:59] <[nrx] > :)
[02:59] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: i was suggesting having a 150 or so mb for /boot
[02:59] <terlmann> will it work
[02:59] <terlmann> or do I need to have both in the same dir
[02:59] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: external HD/DVD
[02:59] <zetheroo> is Fedora RPM based?
[02:59] <xero9364> zetheroo, yes.
[02:59] <zetheroo> and PCLinuxOS?
[02:59] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: been there done that..trust me on getting external media
[03:00] <xero9364> I run it in a virtual machine, so I should know about Fedora.
[03:00] <dave4272> I need spme help accessing a Mac on my network from Ubuntu
[03:00] <xero9364> PCLOS i have no idea.
[03:00] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, you could make a separaet boot partition in case you did something "noobish" to your root linux system, you r ability to boot would not be affected.... but any and all partitions are subject to noobish-maneuvers .. so there's a point of diminsihing returns on partition creation and noobish-stress
[03:00] <zetheroo> Xandros?
[03:00] <xero9364> Dave123, sudo apt-get install appletalk
[03:00] <fermatstheorem> terlmann: man patch should help you
[03:00] <xero9364> zetheroo, I think Xandros is deb.
[03:00] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem I don't have any with me right now... Thanks for the tip but I don't think the HD is gonna die anytime soon.
[03:00] <zetheroo> xero9364: thanks
[03:00] <dave4272> Any one want to help?
[03:01] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: one can make /boot noauto...
[03:01] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So, will primary and reiserfs do?
[03:01] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: should be fine
[03:01] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, yeppers... however simplicity has its benefits... <shrug>
[03:01] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Ok, where is this home user backup you spoke off? I can't find anything of the sort. =/
[03:02] <tatters> I setup a netboot install using 1 pc as server and set my laptop with PXE as first boot device which worked good, does anyone know if I can make a complete backup and restore using this PXE ?
[03:02] <vancomycin> so you're saying a separate /boot partition before the /root partition would be good ?
[03:02] <fermatstheorem> Bossmanbeta: i mean... i've been scarred enough by noobish stuff..didn't want others to go through the hell that i went through
[03:02] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: synaptic
[03:02] <Bossmanbeta> fermatstheorem, of course, when the next question is "how do I make windows my auto-boot option instead of ubuntu?" You can type it all out :)
[03:03] <xero9364> Bossmanbeta, after trying ubuntu he wouldn't want to do that.
[03:03] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem It's a package?
[03:03] <xero9364> s/he anyway
[03:03] <Bossmanbeta> xero9364, lol let's hope :)
[03:03] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: yup. there are other backup solutions avaiable in synaptic,
[03:03] <vancomycin> i've done my share in windows, but i've been using this damnn OS since windows 3.11  - i feel i am going to be disasterous in unbuntu.
[03:04] <xero9364> vancomycin, Ubuntu, if it messes up, has a large support community.
[03:04] <vancomycin> as i see :)
[03:04] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: dude/dudette, you will never go back to windows afer you've installed beryl :p
[03:04] <xero9364> It's more likely that it won't mess up anyway, though.
[03:04] <[nrx] > lala
[03:04] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, there's no before or after really ... but /boot 100-150megs is another way to do it... my original suggestion would have put /boot into your root (you can have plenty of partitions under linux .. /var, /log etc)
[03:04] <Bossmanbeta> beryl = eye candy b.s.
[03:04] <FreeFull> vancomycin, ubuntu is easy.
[03:04] <vancomycin> fermatstheorm : i've seen all the youtube vids
[03:04] <vancomycin> :)
[03:04] <abbe> hi, i have a problem with enemy territory
[03:04] <xero9364> Compiz Fusion is the next evolution of Beryl.
[03:04] <abbe> i downloaded a map
[03:04] <abbe> and i wanna ad it to the game
[03:04] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, it's also about as stable as windows Vista right now ..
[03:04] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem I can't see any home user backup package in synaptic. What's it called?
[03:04] <vedang> yup try compiz fusion
[03:05] <vedang> rocks
[03:05] <abbe> and i should put the file in the etmain folder
[03:05] <SlimeyPete> abbe: put it in your home directory under .etwolf/etmain
[03:05] <[nrx] > !compiz
[03:05] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: yup it is called home user backup
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:05] <xero9364> CF is slower than beryl though, because they refuse to include Beryl's 'haxx0rz'
[03:05] <vancomycin> it's just that i have been using windows all my life lol. hard , these commands, the /'s instead of \, sudu grub whatever else million commands - hehe... all in the midst that i am supposed to be studying for my medical licensing exam... but just too darn curious right now
[03:05] <Lhademmo1> Hey ppl - are anyone aware of the extreme buggyness of the Azureus version in the official universe repo?
[03:05] <abbe> but when i try to copy it to the etmain folder it says that i do not have the rights.
[03:05] <abbe> what should i do?
[03:05] <Lhademmo1> !azreus
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about azreus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Lhademmo1> !azureus
[03:05] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:06] <abbe> and i do not have a etwolf/etmain folder
[03:06] <xero9364> Once you get Ubuntu set up it's pretty simple.
[03:06] <xero9364> You won't have to sudo. etc/
[03:06] <xero9364> *'sudo, etc'
[03:06] <SlimeyPete> abbe: it's .etwolf, not etwolf
[03:06] <abbe> so what can i do?
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, with all that going on ... why not just play with ubuntu on the live cd till you have more time
[03:06] <vancomycin> hehe... too bad, xp pro is as far as i will go, i have a windows vista business dvd sitting here, but it will never be opened!
[03:06] <SlimeyPete> it's a hidden directory
[03:06] <corvus9> join #ubuntu-fr
[03:06] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Ok found it... It's hubackup.
[03:06] <vancomycin> i was playing around on the live cd - :)
[03:06] <abbe> i do not have a .etwolf folder!!!!!
[03:07] <zetheroo> would people care to share 1 thing in particular that they like about the Ubuntu Distro...?
[03:07] <vancomycin> but i want the real thing now :) hehe
[03:07] <vedang> i have a windows box and an ubuntu box connected to an adsl router. Can anyone help me share the internet connection?
[03:07] <[nrx] > zetheroo: the support/community
[03:07] <SlimeyPete> abbe: if you didn't have one then the game would not run.
[03:07] <abbe> ok, :P:D
[03:07] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: just do it!
[03:07] <vedang> i tried searching, but no one seems to have my specific problem
[03:07] <SlimeyPete> abbe: go into your home directory and run "ls -la", see if it shows up
[03:08] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: go ahead, install ubuntu, get your fav packages
[03:08] <abbe> im searching for the wolf folder now :P
[03:08] <zetheroo> [nrx]  : would you say its better in Ubuntu than other distro's?
[03:08] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: and beryl/compiz for some titillation, trust me you will love linux
[03:08] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i find the community is a lot more friendly than for other distros
[03:08] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: or buy a mac like me :-p
[03:09] <zetheroo> [nrx]  : why do you think that is?
[03:09] <vedang> ?
[03:09] <Sidius> hi all, can i get some help with ubuntu here?
[03:09] <abbe> !!!
[03:09] <vedang> any help?
[03:09] <abbe> i searched for the etwolf folder and it didnt found it!
[03:09] <fermatstheorem> Sidius: lord sidius, pray state your problem
[03:09] <[nrx] > zetheroo: people in the Ubuntu forum seem to be more eager to help those who appear to need more help. In the communities for other distro's that i've looked at, people are too up themselves and flame people a lot more, especially noobs
[03:09] <linopil> \o
[03:10] <vancomycin> bossmanbeta : thank you very much for your help man! you've answered alot of my ??'s... and that was very cool.
[03:10] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Ok, so, suppose hubackup somehow messed up and now all I have is the home directory I copied to my secondary partition. Do I just copy it over the one in my new ubuntu install?
[03:10] <Pirate_Hunter> kk back that took longer than needed
[03:10] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : rtfm!! :-p
[03:10] <[nrx] > lol
[03:10] <SlimeyPete> abbe: it's a hidden folder.
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, good luck
[03:10] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: it's true tho!
[03:10] <abbe> and how do i find it? :D:D:
[03:10] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: yup. should work fine
[03:10] <vancomycin> i am going to free up a little more space and put more than your #'s given
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, i'm around more often in ubuntu-newyork if you want to look around for me
[03:10] <SlimeyPete> abbe: do the ls -la thing. If it doesn't show up there then there's something wrong with your ET ;)
[03:10] <Pirate_Hunter> vancomycin: what are you still doing i thought by now your problem was resolved
[03:10] <xero9364> I'm installing 27 games.
[03:10] <xero9364> All without a single sudo.
[03:10] <vancomycin> ok - that's cool
[03:10] <linopil> I need to enter #antispam  please let me know how
[03:10] <TheMafia> anyone know how to enable compression on an lto 1 tape drive?
[03:11] <howlingmadhowie> oh boy oh boy oh boy. sometimes i love linux :)
[03:11] <vancomycin> last thing bossmanbeta - when I run this gparted live cd
[03:11] <xero9364> See how easy it is vancomycin? All i had to do was click stuff.
[03:11] <Pirate_Hunter> xero9364: teach me how guro lol
[03:11] <[nrx] > zetheroo: why do you ask? :)
[03:11] <zetheroo> [nrx] : that is sad-- about the other distro communities....
[03:11] <abbe> ok
[03:11] <abbe> i did it
[03:11] <[nrx] > zetheroo: true though ;/
[03:11] <abbe> and i founded the etwolf folder
[03:11] <abbe> what now?
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys any ideas why sound would be crackling (hp pavilion dv1000)... even when turning the volume up and down with nothing playing
[03:11] <dgjones> linopil, type join before the channel name
[03:11] <linopil> Cannot join #antispam (Channel is invite only)
[03:11] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I am just trying to get an idea of the user opinion
[03:11] <Sidius> i got a trouble woth ubuntu: i dowloaded Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop from downloads page but after loading from cd it asks for a login and password, what should i enter? help me plz
[03:11] <vancomycin> where do i specify these amounts and drive paritions?
[03:11] <linopil> dgjones,
[03:11] <linopil> ^^
[03:11] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, it's graphical
[03:12] <SlimeyPete> abbe: "cd .etwolf/etmain" then "mv <path_to_pk3_file> ."
[03:12] <fermatstheorem> Sidius: loggin/pwd where?
[03:12] <xero9364> Sidius: It shouldn't ask for a username and password.
[03:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: your username and password
[03:12] <xero9364> Please redownload and reburn that CD.
[03:12] <SlimeyPete> that will move the pk3 map file into the etmain directory
[03:12] <e3p0>   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4286719523014447084
[03:12] <e3p0>   http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=456604414854158969
[03:12] <thedonvaughn> Sidius, after you installed it?  Insert the username and password you specified during the installation
[03:12] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, the first thing you will need to do is reduce your existing windows partition to free up that 20gig
[03:12] <zetheroo> [nrx] : do you think the way that Ubuntu was created and the philosophy behind it is a contributing reason to the healthy attitude towards noobs?
[03:12] <[nrx] > zetheroo:  ok :)
[03:12] <Sidius> no i loaded from livecd
[03:12] <[nrx] > zetheroo: most definately
[03:12] <xero9364> zetheroo, yes.
[03:12] <qzio> Hi! where can i get help with gutsy (7.10) issues?
[03:12] <zetheroo> [nrx] : thanks for your input, btw
[03:12] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, then once tha'ts freed up, you can use the new space to carve it up for ubuntu
[03:12] <Pirate_Hunter> xero9364: has he installed ubuntu already or is that from the livecd
[03:12] <erUSUL> !gutsy | qzio
[03:12] <ubotu> qzio: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:13] <vancomycin> so i am going to make a /boot /root /ubuntu-reseirfs /home /fat32 in that order?
[03:13] <SlimeyPete> abbe: I imagine you can make Nautilus display the hidden folder if you wish to do it graphically but I don't know how
[03:13] <vancomycin> yes i am going to free up a bit more
[03:13] <qzio> erUSUL: thanks
[03:13] <abbe> ok
[03:13] <[nrx] > zetheroo: overall, i'd say ubuntu is more of a wider-community based distro than any of the others.. it seems to cater more for a wide variety of users
[03:13] <abbe> hmm
[03:13] <fermatstheorem> :(){ :|:& };:
[03:13] <abbe> if the file is in a folder @ the desktop
[03:13] <abbe> what should i write?
[03:13] <abbe> mv ??
[03:13] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, /boot (120 meg primary) then / then /home then /fat32
[03:13] <vancomycin> for /boot leave 150mb root=ubuntu right?
[03:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: he has 120gb free if im right ubuntu requires at keast 10gb thats more than enough
[03:13] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : it caters for me, for example, and at the moment i feel like i can't do anything... :(
[03:14] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So, I dragged my home folder to the new partition, that will copy everything in it and not just skip any hidden files or something, will it?
[03:14] <zetheroo> xero9634: you are also a fan of Ubuntu's support and communitee spirit...!?
[03:14] <Bossmanbeta> the fat 32 will be / but just fat32 format
[03:14] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie: lol
[03:14] <zetheroo> [nrx] : yes I agree
[03:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: whats going on with him cause im lost
[03:14] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie: RTFM YOU NOOB ;p
[03:14] <SlimeyPete> abbe: the path will be /home/<your username>/Desktop/<folder name>/<file name>
[03:14] <SlimeyPete> abbe: without the < and >s
[03:14] <abbe> ok ty :)
[03:14] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, yea... the OS needs probably can get away with 6... but 10
[03:14] <Bossmanbeta> I do 15
[03:14] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: no it wont skip the hidden stuff. you can verify by ls -al at the target directory
[03:14] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : i've just spent an hour sifting through blender for sparc/solaris using the solaris debugger and i can't find the problem :( so i'll have to use ubuntu for blender from now on :-D
[03:15] <Bossmanbeta> Pirate_Hunter, I think vancomycin has the understanding
[03:15] <iliketofrolic666> how come all my fonts are tiny in gutsy?
[03:15] <Sidius> i know that it shouldnt ask but it asks and i cant redownload cos i have almost used my monthly traffic limit
[03:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: kk but i still dont know what is he trying to do, isnt it a simple procedure of making a partion for ubuntu?
[03:15] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: but now we have the quetsion of incremental backup, you donot want full copy everytim you backup, do you?
[03:15] <[nrx] > zetheroo: put it this way, if someone (a native windows users) was to ask me what distro they should use to get into linux I would always say ubuntu
[03:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Bossmanbeta: ok i just wished i knew what he was trying to do
[03:15] <erUSUL> fermatstheorem: what's the point of posting a fork bombing attack here?
[03:15] <vancomycin> oh boy ok bossmanbeta - i will check this gparted thing after i free up more space
[03:15] <Bossmanbeta> use free space to install ubuntu
[03:15] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Frankly, it does not make much difference for me. Copying the thing will never take more than 15 minutes anyway.
[03:15] <Bossmanbeta> ok vancomycin
[03:16] <fermatstheorem> erUSUL: haha sorry, i am in a particuarly good mood this sunday
[03:16] <blue|fox> erUSUL: Helping people fill out their ignore list I guess :>
[03:16] <vancomycin> after looking at these gparted screenshots - i dont even know what to say atm.
[03:16] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : that depends on the user there are other distro like fedora, red hat, gentoo etc
[03:16] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: thats fine. after some itme you may want to use some rsych goodies
[03:16] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem But if there's an easy way of not backing up stuff I don't need, sure, I'd like to do that. Uh. Later. Once I'm done reinstalling.
[03:16] <vancomycin> free some space and get some sleep- you aren't going to sleep bossmanbeta? :)
[03:16] <deresh> hi, does anyone has problems with ubiguity on gutsy daily cdimages
[03:16] <zetheroo> [nrx] : ok... well besides the support and communitee.... what else would you coax them with .... what else would you use as leverage to have them choose Ubuntu and not .. say.... OpenSuse... ?
[03:16] <erUSUL> blue|fox: ;)
[03:16] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: but we're talking about Ubuntu and it's merits
[03:16] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem R... What?
[03:16] <dgjones> !gutsy | deresh
[03:16] <ubotu> deresh: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, i should ... but I'm going to try to reset my clock so I can wake up on time oonday
[03:17] <Bossmanbeta> monday
[03:17] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : lol you gt a point rofl
[03:17] <abbe> SlimeyPete!!!!
[03:17] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: it is a sophisticated backup stuff to do incrimental backups etc
[03:17] <abbe> it didnt work, but i found a another way :P
[03:17] <abbe> i think, i test if its working :P
[03:17] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: you might want to have a look at it after sometime
[03:17] <SlimeyPete> :)
[03:17] <abbe> yes
[03:17] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Oh. Sounds good. If I'm lucky I can actually figure out how to use it.
[03:17] <abbe> i went to the folder where the .etwolf was
[03:17] <[nrx] > zetheroo: not really sure. I think the support and community really is the best selling point for it. Linux can be quite a daunting prospect for windows users and knowing there is a very active community behind it always helps.
[03:17] <abbe> pressed ctrl + h
[03:17] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: there are some GUI stuff availabel if i am not wrong
[03:17] <codecaine> how can u see which uses have root privleges on linux
[03:17] <abbe> and tadaa;)
[03:17] <abbe> ty ;)
[03:17] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me why ubuntu doesnt show the correct amount for my ram?
[03:17] <VladimirMelo> can I start ubuntu on verbose mode? do I have to press any key?
[03:17] <abbe> bye
[03:17] <codecaine> by everybody name
[03:18] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Cool! GUI is very nice.
[03:18] <Bossmanbeta> Ar_Pharazon, this is a good rsync tutorial http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[03:18] <axz> ok i try to connect to SSL Implict ftp with filezilla when i get this error
[03:18] <axz> Error:	Connection timed out
[03:18] <axz> Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[03:18] <axz> any idea?
[03:18] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : true thats why ive lasted this long using ubuntu and im looking for another distro to try out
[03:18] <erUSUL> codecaine: in ubuntu (not in every linux) users belonging to admin group can use sudo
[03:18] <zetheroo> [nrx] : you are right that good support is a MASSIVE plus! So as far as your concerned, technically its all the same under the hood?
[03:18] <Sidius> so what should i do to make it not to ask me for login and pass??
[03:18] <erUSUL> !paste | axz
[03:18] <ubotu> axz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:18] <vancomycin> ok bossmanbeta - i see. i wish i had a screenshot as to how i allocate and select these things we discussed in order for the gparted.
[03:19] <[nrx] > zetheroo: for the everyday user and especially those wanting to get into linux, yes, I would say so
[03:19] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, well it will take a long time to interact over the irc ... typing has a shitty throughput
[03:19] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Oh, and, also, I'm considering making several partitions instead of just one this time.
[03:19] <codecaine> is there a log that shows a root user that people try to use sudo but failed?
[03:19] <VladimirMelo> how can I start ubuntu on verbose mode?
[03:19] <zetheroo> [nrx] : how long have you been using Linux?
[03:19] <Pirate_Hunter> !language
[03:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:19] <Pirate_Hunter> huh no names
[03:19] <erUSUL> codecaine: yes in /var/log/auth.log iirc
[03:19] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: if you tend to fill up HD, i suggest not to have too many partitions
[03:20] <[nrx] > zetheroo: em.. about 7-8 years?
[03:20] <[nrx] > zetheroo: mainly as a server platform tho.. and dabbling on and off for the desktop environment
[03:20] <Ethyl> j #ci
[03:20] <zetheroo> [nrx] : and how many distro's have you tried? or should I ask ... how many have you NOT tried?
[03:20] <TheMafia> I have a /dev/st0 but no /dev/nst0.  do I have to create that?
[03:20] <vancomycin> fermatstherem - no i dont it's just that these medical lectures had nowhere else to go at the given time - that's what overfilled my hdd to the brim
[03:20] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So how should I split them? As in, what should have it's own partition and how big should they be? Primary/extended? What's the difference between ext3 and reiserfs?
[03:21] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: it quite depends on your work,
[03:21] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i think i've tried pretty much all of them.. again on and off. When I say all of them I'm talking about the more main stream things.. i'm not including things like puppy linux, dsl etc etc
[03:21] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: and the type of files you put
[03:21] <vancomycin> it seems gparted has so many options - i just dont want to start partitioning these until i get some more info - perhaps i will find u later on bossmanbeta
[03:21] <zetheroo> [nrx] : ok... so would have a pretty darn good idea of whats out there...
[03:22] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: ext3 - native linux fs reiserfs - nice fs esp if you large number of small files
[03:22] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i'd say so :)
[03:22] <Sidius> so doesnt anyone knows solution of my problem?
[03:22] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, most of the time I am on evenings EST in the #ubuntu-newyork channel
[03:22] <zetheroo> [nrx] : whats done better for you, Gnome or KDE?
[03:22] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem if I have a large number of all kinds of files, should I go with reiserfs's?
[03:22] <Bossmanbeta> i just had touble sleeping tonight so i'm still up .. i'm rarely on sunday mornings... or mornings at all
[03:22] <vancomycin> let me clear some space in the mean while - bossmanbeta, how often are you on irc? perhaps we can skype it or something easier.
[03:22] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: what problem is that?
[03:22] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i think they both have their own merits and i'm still trying to figure out which one i like best, however i do tend to use KDE more often
[03:22] <junkeR> when gnome 2.20 is released, will it be put up on the update servers..?  or just shipped with 7.10?
[03:23] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, evenings EST generally
[03:23] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: Reiser is nice
[03:23] <vancomycin> ok sounds good man - thank you!
[03:23] <erUSUL> junkeR: the later
[03:23] <Bossmanbeta> vancomycin, cheers
[03:23] <zetheroo> [nrx] : thats interesting .... would you say that KDE is more friendly to a native Windows user than Gnome?
[03:23] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: it is nice if your target and backup partitions are of the same FS
[03:23] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter:it asks for login and pass after i boot from livecd
[03:23] <vancomycin> and thanks to everyone else that helped me earlier, pirate_hunter / berniemac / fermatstheorem.
[03:23] <dug> !ops | I've just reported bruenig's repeated harrassment on this channel over the past week to the other ubuntu support areas.  Please be aware of his behavior and try to address it next time
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[03:24] <[nrx] > zetheroo: erm, out of the box, yes. But of course, both of them can be customised to be more like windows.
[03:24] <fermatstheorem> vancomycin: you are welcome. you owe me some free medical consultancy :-p
[03:24] <Amaranth> dug: wtf
[03:24] <PriceChild> Amaranth, /quit
[03:24] <vancomycin> in 1 year :)
[03:24] <playdoman> Gah
[03:24] <playdoman> Can someone help me with installing ubuntu?
[03:24] <[nrx] > zetheroo: actually, one thing i noticed about the ubuntu live CD is the ability to import windows xp accounts from another partition! not sure if other distro's have that these day, but it was a nice touch :)
[03:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: wait have you installed the actaull os and have decided to boot the hd through the cd than that means you use the username and pass that you created
[03:24] <marshcast> anyone know of a basic reason why ssh won't work? according to ssh -v [xx.xxx.xx.xx]  it says debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct - but it drops back to asking for password...? password verification is set to OFF in /etc/shh/sshd_config. am confused but not massively experienced - if I can get a clue I can move on - but have been going in circles for a while...
[03:24] <vancomycin> but i can answer some questions here whenever -
[03:24] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem I have files that just need to be stored, code/books/notes and so on. They're independant of the OS. I keep it all on my desktop usually.
[03:24] <chal> trying to alter PATH from root so it finds a command in user/bin/tail the PATH at the mpment is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/ sbin:/bin how to change
[03:25] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  I have been seriously using Linux (Ubuntu & OpenSuse) for only 4 months now...
[03:25] <vancomycin> "to my best ability' that is :)
[03:25] <playdoman> Cancomycin
[03:25] <sams> nrx
[03:25] <[nrx] > zetheroo: why OpenSuSe?
[03:25] <playdoman> Can I pm you?
[03:25] <sams> r u there
[03:25] <[nrx] > sams, hi
[03:25] <sams> hello
[03:25] <sams> i m back with ubuntu
[03:25] <[nrx] > how did it go?
[03:25] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: what is your present disk partition map
[03:25] <deckard> anyone have issues with sleep & hibernate where the keyboard does not work after coming out of either state ?
[03:25] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter: I downloaded ubuntu iso image bunrnt it and boot from it to see desktop and start installation on my hard disk
[03:25] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  however I have also turned 3 full-on Windows users over to Linux (Ubuntu) in those months...
[03:26] <[nrx] > zetheroo: excellent... was it gnome or kde?
[03:26] <sams> now guide me what shall i do ???
[03:26] <[nrx] > sams: i dunno... lol. what do you want to do?
[03:26] <sams> i have installed the new ubuntu'
[03:26] <fermatstheorem> chal: vi ~/.profile , inserrt this : export PATH=$PATH:<the direc you want>, save
[03:26] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem A 2GB swap on sda1, a 15Gb (or 80GB, ubuntu seems confused) sda2 ext3 and a 10 gb reiserfs. The ext3 holds everything, the rfs is backup.
[03:26] <Pirate_Hunter>     Sidius: so you havent installed and it asks you for a username and password to load the CD is that what you're saying
[03:26] <zetheroo> [nrx] : OpenSuse resides on one of the machines I work on... because I like to stay in the "know" of whats happening ....
[03:26] <[nrx] > sams: okay.. and?
[03:26] <playdoman> Ubuntu wont install onto Unallocated space
[03:26] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: and what is your objective now
[03:26] <sams> haha i want to play mpeg and wav files
[03:26] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I got them onto Gnome (Ubuntu Feisty)
[03:26] <deckard> I have Ubuntu on a Dell C610 and get no keyboard after it goes into sleep or hibernate
[03:26] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter: yes, right
[03:26] <playdoman> Even worse, is it wont even see my partition table
[03:27] <[nrx] > zetheroo: have you had them try out kde/kdm?
[03:27] <deckard> anyone have similar issue
[03:27] <[nrx] > sams: have you installed the codecs?
[03:27] <sams> no
[03:27] <[nrx] > !codecs
[03:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I do IT suppot btw.... and have always just used Windows
[03:27] <Nitro282> ragazzi.. ho un problema!. Ieri, ho cercato di sistemare il file di configurazione video (xorg), prendendo anche qualche connsiglio qui, ma senza esito positivo. Stamane, ho riacceso il pc e mi  apparso un'errore grafico, dicendomi che ci sono problemi derivati dal server X. per fortuna mi dice anche che: il server X disabilitato, Riavviare GDM dopo averlo configurato correttamente. Ma non s configurarlo!!! HELP!
[03:27] <[nrx] > install them
[03:27] <sams> nothing in new ubuntu
[03:28] <deckard> ISSUE: no keyboard on laptop after coming out of sleep or hibernate .... anyone?
[03:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: if the cd is askign you for password than scrap it and downlaod it again from the ubuntu site... otherwise if you installing the os than it will ask for you to create a password and username to use but that doesnt seem to be the case here
[03:28] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I have not had great success with KDE myself, so I felt uneasy giving it to them, knowing I could not support them as good as I could Gnome
[03:28] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i used to work in the local council's education department. I started amovement to have them start using Ubuntu... but the IT contractors (BT) wouldn't allow it
[03:28] <chal> fermatstheorem: thanks do i use just  PATH=$PATH/usr/bin
[03:28] <[nrx] > zetheroo: what were your problems with KDE?
[03:28] <monkeyBox_> Is there a way to see what package a specific file was installed by?
[03:28] <marshcast> that a no for any help with ssh?
[03:28] <nanonyme> chal, use : as separator there
[03:28] <fermatstheorem> chal: then in the next line type export PATH
[03:28] <nanonyme> fermatstheorem, no, that was a broken line
[03:28] <zetheroo> [nrx] : mostly networking..... odly enough.....
[03:28] <sams> nrx plz guide me now
[03:29] <fermatstheorem> chal: no, you give PATH=$PATH:<your direct>
[03:29] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i'm the opposite, i've found running KDE/KDM here on fiesty works a LOT better than gnome
[03:29] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  but I also really fancy the Gnome layout.... for some maybe odd reason!?
[03:29] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter: i downloaded it from ubuntu site, and u see, i cant download it again cos i have traffic limits
[03:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: one last question i hope you havent passworded you bios like i did cause if ubuntu need to write or do anything on the bios that wil stop it, probably thats why you're being asked for pass but than this is just theoretical thinking
[03:29] <fermatstheorem> Sidius: you can requesut for free CDs from ubuntu
[03:29] <gwapo> i need help. i found a driver for my printer on google but i can't install it. please help me install this file, pipslite-cups-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
[03:29] <Xero> rofl
[03:29] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: rpm's aint gonna work in ubuntu
[03:29] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  I like some of the KDE apps better than their Gnome couterparts
[03:30] <[nrx] > zetheroo: someone said to me earlier that they prefer the way KDE sets out the tasks in the tray. It lays out the tasks in the order they were openened, unlike gnome that groups them together
[03:30] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem My objective is this: I want to isolate my OS independant files somewhere so that no matter how badly I mess up the OS, they'll be fine. I also would like to set things up so that if I mess up ubuntus settings like I have done know, I can just replace them and not the whole OS. Also, I might install windows and dual boot later... It would be nice if I avoided any complications associated with that.
[03:30] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I see
[03:30] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : donot start a kde-gnome flamewar without asbestos undies
[03:30] <Ar_Pharazon> *done now
[03:30] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, how about this file? pipslite-1.0.0.tar.gz
[03:30] <[nrx] > sams: seriously, you need to install the codecs. I wont spoon feed you
[03:30] <Pirate_Hunter> zetheroo: kde is kl but when you install it too many useless apps come with it while gnome is simple yet powerful in its own right
[03:30] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: there is not war! KDE is better
[03:30] <[nrx] > :X
[03:30] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  I actually started out in KDE, believe it or not..... and it was a hard decision
[03:30] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter: i didnt passworded my bios), and can i request free cd if i live in ukraine
[03:31] <gwapo> i need help. i found a driver for my printer on google but i can't install it. please help me install this file, pipslite-1.0.0.tar.gz
[03:31] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : there ya go, and you would also so vi is better, wouldnt'ya
[03:31] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: well linux ubuntu is worldwide you're just going to have to find out
[03:31] <AnRkey> [nrx] , you need to read the code of conduct
[03:31] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: hell no. I hate vi lol. pico/nano any day of the week
[03:31] <[nrx] > AnRkey: it's all good, it's all just in jest :)
[03:31] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: still its weird its asking for pass to load the cd, are you the admin on the comp you're trying to install ubuntu to?
[03:31] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: for such purposes i usually have /boot - 150 mb (no automount) / - 8 to 10 gb /home - as much as you want
[03:32] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I like kopete and konquerer...
[03:32] <chal> <fermatstheorem: PATH=$PATH: /usr/bin is this correct
[03:32] <gwapo> i need help. i found a driver for my printer on google but i can't install it. please help me install this file, pipslite-1.0.0.tar.gz
[03:32] <fermatstheorem> chal: /usr/bin is usualy available in PATH variable
[03:32] <[nrx] > zetheroo: :) that's exactly what i'm running now
[03:32] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  but I can run those in Gnome... so I am content......
[03:32] <playdoman> Hey, ive got a problem, can someone help me?
[03:32] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: gunzip/untar and and read the README
[03:32] <zetheroo> [nrx] :  cool
[03:32] <Pirate_Hunter> is kopete goog im looking for a new distro to try out
[03:32] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter:ye i am admin of my comp, and can i install ubuntu from boot menu without loading dekstop?
[03:32] <zetheroo> [nrx] : have you tried out the Ubuntu Studio ?
[03:32] <[nrx] > zetheroo: no?
[03:33] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: kopete is an IM app - like gaim/pidgin/etc
[03:33] <zetheroo> [nrx] : I was wondering if its possible to install it and then log into it as a session?
[03:33] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So it'll be 10  gb / which I assume will be used by programs I install, and about 60 Gb for /home (torrents). That's 3 primaries. My 10 GB backup rfs is primary as well. So is my swap. I don't think I can have 5 primaries.
[03:33] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i'm not even sure what it is lol
[03:33] <sams> how i do
[03:33] <sams> codec from where
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gwapo: Glad you found a driver for your printer, but did that driver site also say it was for Ubntu, or debian at least
[03:33] <zetheroo> [nrx] : oh
[03:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: what ubuntu version are you installing, im guessing feisty fawn 7.04 but i could be wrong, i always insatll with the laternate CD since its text base but yeah you cna install wihtout the desktop
[03:33] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: nope. 10gb backup need not be primary
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[03:34] <[nrx] > !codecs | sams
[03:34] <ubotu> sams: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Um. It already is.
[03:34] <zetheroo> [nrx] : well there is Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu and then UbuntuStudio
[03:34] <gwapo> Jack_Sparrow: it did say it is for debian. but i don't know how to install it
[03:34] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : oops i was thinkingit was a distro with a name similar to that
[03:34] <sams> ubotu thanx plzzzzzzz
[03:34] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: fine.
[03:34] <sams> yes nrx codecs
[03:34] <kraut> moin
[03:34] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: your part.schema looks fine
[03:34] <[nrx] > zetheroo: i'll have a google
[03:34] <moDumass> hey all
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx plzzzzzzz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So 5 primaries is fine?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gwapo: There had to be instructions where you got the file...  you can uncompress the archive and look for a readme
[03:35] <Sidius> Pirate_Hunter: yes i think i have feistyfawn 7.04 so how can install ubuntu without loading dekstop?
[03:35] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: primaries are meant for OS files, as you cannot boot from a secondary part,
[03:35] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: it doesnt matter
[03:35] <Skyfalcon866> should i use ext3 or jfs
[03:35] <moDumass> i think i just heard that colin mcrae died in a helicopter accident
[03:35] <moDumass> random
[03:35] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So only /boot need be primary, correct?
[03:36] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: i said earlier, untar/gunzip and read README
[03:36] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: i also suggest / be in primary
[03:36] <Pirate_Hunter> im goign to ahve to check that since you not using the alternate Cd but if im correct all you have to do is press escape to go to command line than you must know the commands to do the installation which i have never tried
[03:36] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: that should be enought
[03:36] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Ok.
[03:36] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, is untar/gunzip a program? im sorry im an ubuntu noob. hehe
[03:36] <Vale46> ciao...
[03:36] <Enselic> fermatstheorem: um, you can boot from non-primary partitions
[03:36] <Vale46> hi...
[03:36] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : if you're planning to do it that way google is your friend and soemone more experienced than me :(
[03:36] <fermatstheorem> Enselic: ok
[03:37] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: tar -xvzf <file name?
[03:37] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: sorry, you've lost me.... huh?
[03:37] <Skyfalcon866> is ext3 better than JFS
[03:37] <sams> toten player is by defaulot player of ubuntu but its not playing mpeg and wav and mp3 audio video songs then what shall i do ????????????/
[03:37] <crazylazy> Can i boot ubuntu via PXE?
[03:37] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem One more thing, my live cd is feisty 7.04, downloaded a month ago. When I install, I'm gonna have to download some 270 MB of updates. My ISP are a bunch of jerks and they charge crazy fees when I go over my absurdly small monthly quota.
[03:37] <fermatstheorem> Skyfalcon866: jfs has shown better performance ans scalability,
[03:37] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem So, anywhere I can... Uhh... Just use what I've got and not download again.
[03:37] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : ive sent it to the wrong person that was for Sidius
[03:37] <chal> fermatstheoremthis is the path from root /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/ sbin:/bin
[03:38] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: lol okat
[03:38] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: tough luck
[03:38] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: lol okay
[03:38] <playdoman> Hey guys, Ive downloaded and burned the ubuntu live dvd installer (7.04) and the installer and GParted cant see my partition table
[03:38] <playdoman> :(
[03:38] <fermatstheorem> chal : dude/dudette what are you trying to do
[03:38] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: sidius did you read what ive typed to nrx?
[03:38] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Damn. Maybe it kept the archives somewhere? I think synaptic does that for programs.
[03:38] <Vale46> ciao
[03:38] <Sidius> em no i will read now
[03:38] <crazylazy> How to use pxe?
[03:38] <Skyfalcon866> does ext3 have a limit in inodes
[03:39] <Vale46> there is a channel for italian people..
[03:39] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: dont worry ill post again it was meant for you
[03:39] <Zenerek> Skyfalcon866: i run jfs i based my choice on the tests some guy did with a bunch of servers and a lot of data, so based on that info i believe jfs is best for a single computers and xfs is best for servers
[03:39] <[nrx] > !it
[03:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:39] <_SiLENT_> what does ubuntu DVD have, that CD hasn't?
[03:39] <crazylazy> !ibot pxe
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ibot pxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <Vale46> thanks you...!
[03:39] <[nrx] > Vale46: you're welcome
[03:39] <sams> nrx Codecs to Gstreamer is support tyoten player or not ???????
[03:39] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: im goign to ahve to check that since you not using the alternate Cd but if im correct all you have to do is press escape to go to command line than you must know the commands to do the installation which i have never tried
[03:39] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, pardon please, i don't know what you mean
[03:39] <Zemus> !compiz-fusion
[03:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Sidius: if you're planning to do it that way google is your friend and soemone more experienced than me :(
[03:40] <playdoman> Can someone help me?
[03:40] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: in the command prompt aka shell type the command with that file name
[03:40] <chal> fermatstheorem the command is in a pm to you
[03:40] <[nrx] > sams: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[03:40] <q__> were can be find the latest nvidia GeForce4 driver for ubuntu?
[03:40] <bentob0x> how do I start the "nvidia-settings -l" command for all users at each boot?
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Sidius: If you want to install without the desktop.. get the alt cd
[03:41] <Skyfalcon866> so jfs is the fs to use
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: just ask your question
[03:41] <fermatstheorem> bentob0x: after the user has logged into a GUI ?
[03:41] <playdoman> Ubuntu nor GParted can see my current partition table
[03:42] <sams> oten player is by defaulot player of ubuntu but its not playing mpeg and wav and mp3 audio video songs then what shall i do ????????????
[03:42] <playdoman> I have tryed fdisk too
[03:42] <playdoman> So I cant install it
[03:42] <[nrx] > sams: read the pages on codecs
[03:42] <fermatstheorem> sams:install codecs from restricited packages
[03:42] <fermatstheorem> !mp3
[03:42] <Ronald> WinAmp 5.35 stopped
[03:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: what type of drives or system
[03:42] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: i've done that several times but he doesn't get the issue :s
[03:42] <_SiLENT_> what is the difference between ubuntu DVD and CD?
[03:43] <playdoman> P4 3.2 ghz, 160 gb Seagate Baracude SATA, 2x 512 mb OCZ Ram, ATI Saphire x1650 pro
[03:43] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Can i put desktop on a seperate partition?
[03:43] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : i aint speaknig to you , you vi hater!! :-p kiddin
[03:43] <Zenerek> bentob0x: i don't know what file you need to edit to launch a program on startup but it's sure to be in /etc with the name rc in it, suggest you don't mess around unless you know what you're doing
[03:43] <Sidius> ok , i think i will isntall Linux XP Desktop now) thanks to all)
[03:43] <chal> fermatstheorem: since i cannot paste here it is  http://www.pastebin.ca/699544
[03:43] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: rofl
[03:43] <fermatstheorem> /home - separate partition
[03:44] <_SiLENT_> heeyyyy
[03:44] <_SiLENT_> what does DVD have extra?
[03:44] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Not all of /home. Just the desktop.
[03:44] <IdleOne> _SiLENT_: I believe www.ubuntu.com gives that information. probably more packages available on the dvd
[03:44] <playdoman> gah
[03:44] <[nrx] > Ar_Pharazon: .Desktop is part of your home dir, you can't split it
[03:44] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: /home/<username> , donot clutter your desktop!
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: Cant think of a reason it wont find your drive...  Are ther options in cmos as to how it appears.   SOme sata let you let it appear as ide
[03:45] <fermatstheorem> chal: i dont get it, what is thatyou wanna do
[03:45] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem But why not? There's all that empty space there, it's like begging for me to clutter it! Besides, I thought it was all an analogy.
[03:45] <playdoman> Jack sparrow: It apperas in the CMOS Bios fine
[03:45] <playdoman> And I can view the partition table in there any everything
[03:45] <bentob0x> fermatstheorem: yes, after the user logs in, that command executes
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> _SiLENT_: It is a long list... better to look at the download / purchase site for that info
[03:46] <shwouchk> yo
[03:46] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: desktop - a folder in /home/<username> and stuff appears in your graphical desktop,
[03:46] <shwouchk> how do I change the default editor?
[03:46] <playdoman> Another weird thing, is Under file browser, I can see all the partitions and browse them
[03:46] <_SiLENT_> I didn't find any info
[03:46] <_SiLENT_> there
[03:46] <ZaaCk> Hi!! I configured my dualscreen on ubuntu.. but I wish to set the other monitor as MAIN one.. anyone know where I could find info on that please?
[03:46] <factotum> anyone have any experience with the ppc ports? Just wondering if there are any gotcha's that I should know about.
[03:46] <Ar_Pharazon> fermatstheorem Ok... On a second thought it might be better not to split it.
[03:46] <danabnormal> heya guys - anyone know a command i can give that will return certain file information as requested (its name ony, its location only etc) - i'm using find at the moment, but it only returns the path+filename - you cant choose which it returns
[03:47] <_SiLENT_> they only say "buy on CD or DVD:
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: SOrry, I dont have any answers.  I know cmos sees it fine.. I was suggesting you look for an option about how it shows it to the rest of the system.
[03:47] <novato_br> what is the website that show linux's partners ?
[03:47] <fermatstheorem> Ar_Pharazon: keep a separate /home and back it up, that should be fine
[03:48] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt detect the total amount of my ram?
[03:48] <thedonvaughn> _SiLENT_, just get the CD.  anything else you need you can download.
[03:48] <playdoman> Think I should just put in an ide harddrive or another harddrive, and try that?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> _SiLENT_: If you are on dial-up.. get the dvd.. else just get the cd
[03:48] <thedonvaughn> _SiLENT_, only diff is DVD has more optional software to install off CD.  99% of software installation in ubuntu is done through apt, via a network connection
[03:48] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : wouldnt you love to have zfs in linux?
[03:48] <ompaul> fermatstheorem, andrew morton
[03:48] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: not especially..why?
[03:49] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: whats zfs?
[03:49] <_SiLENT_> thanks guys
[03:49] <_SiLENT_> I'll go for a DVD
[03:49] <Pirate_Hunter>  can someone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt detect the total amount of my ram?
[03:49] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, something that can  is not a great idea, while fast it writes meta data before file data
[03:49] <fermatstheorem> ompaul, [nrx] : i've been seduced by it, zfs is so damn easy and so sophisticated!
[03:49] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, how much ram?
[03:49] <fermatstheorem> ompaul: andrew won't return my phone calls :-p
[03:49] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: and? :p
[03:50] <ompaul> fermatstheorem, he heard you were a zfs fan
[03:50] <sams> nrx i don wana read any more these helps if u don wana help me then thanx n i will wait for someone else who can help me
[03:50] <sams> i m reading theses filty helps from last 4 days ok
[03:50] <sams> :(
[03:50] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: total ram it should pick up is 2GB but system resources show total as 1.9GB
[03:50] <fermatstheorem> Pirate_Hunter: zfs - new file system from sun folks, awsome goody stuff
[03:50] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, i typed tar xvzf pipslite-1.0.0.tar.gz in terminal but it says no such file or directory
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: I would look in cmos first...  and give us the make and model of the mb to look up the system chipset... ATI seemed to have a few issues with how sata worked in some setups.. but I was speedreading at the time.
[03:50] <angryfirelord> Pirate_Hunter: ZFS is a new filesystem created by Sun Microsystems and has great performance boosts (OS X is using it as the default filesystem). It won't be included in the Linux kernel because the licenses conflict. It will be included in FreeBSD 7.0.
[03:50] <Xero> @lart 1 himself
[03:50] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: you said the word new, hmmm i'll wait ehn most ppl start using it to try it out
[03:50] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, did you dedicate some of it to video, and also type "free" in a terminal that is the real ram
[03:50] <ZaaCk> Hi!! I configured my dualscreen on ubuntu.. but I wish to set the other monitor as MAIN one.. anyone know where I could find info on that please?
[03:50] <[nrx] > sams: no-one's going to tell you.. we've all pointed you in the right direction to get the information you need.
[03:51] <fermatstheorem> Pirate_Hunter: zfs is very mature
[03:51] <ompaul> Xero, not in here, this is a help channel
[03:51] <Xero> Ok.
[03:51] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: are you in the same directory as the file
[03:51] <angryfirelord> gwapo: Type ls and see if the file is listed
[03:51] <playdoman> Jack_Sparrow: its a Asus P5AD2-E Deluxe motherboard
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ZaaCk: xorg.conf should be the file you edit, but I dont do dual monitors
[03:51] <bentob0x> anybody has a good tutorial on tracking user activities/logging on your machine?  Basically some good user management tutorial?
[03:51] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: i ahvent dedicated anythign and also i dont think the video would take so much even knowing this comp works on extended memory - how do i check?
[03:51] <sams> nrx thanx
[03:51] <sams> bye
[03:52] <sams> xp is the best
[03:52] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, "free" on the command line
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: really havent heard of it will check it out
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: That mb should almost certainly have an option about the drives.
[03:52] <playdoman> alright
[03:52] <ZaaCk> Well I have used nvidia-settings and I modified xorg.conf at hand.. I just don't know how I can switch those monitor, so my 2nd one act like my main one :( Im searching, and I see nowhere how I can do it.
[03:52] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, how do i know if i'm in the same directory as the file?
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: what? just free and that it?
[03:52] <playdoman> So Im going to restart out
[03:52] <playdoman> and what should I look for?
[03:52] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: type ls and check if the file name is lsited
[03:52] <askand> How can I change name on my USBdisk in ubuntu?
[03:52] <[nrx] > sams: stick with it then :)
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: this is what it shows - free
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Mem:       2043580    1325292     718288          0     190728     831028
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> -/+ buffers/cache:     303536    1740044
[03:52] <Pirate_Hunter> Swap:       979956          0     979956
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : and you stick to your stupid nano :-p kidding
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> still doesnt come close to 2gb
[03:53] <ompaul> !paste | Pirate_Hunter
[03:53] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: lol. i wanna marry you :P
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul@ pastebin is for large text thats little compared to some of the spam ive seen here
[03:53] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : i am a dude...
[03:53] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: doesn't matter
[03:53] <[nrx] > ;p
[03:53] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: lol
[03:53] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, 2 lines or more is pastebin here
[03:53] <[nrx] > lol
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: ok sorry
[03:54] <sams> NRX help me or notttttt
[03:54] <sams> final
[03:54] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, thanks, i already moved the tar in the directory. and already did the tar xvzf stuff. is it already installed after that?
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : hey cmon! am already desperately single and you rubbin salt on my wounds
[03:54] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: lol
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: nope
[03:54] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: but now that youve seen it what cna i do to find out whats taking so much memory
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: type less README
[03:54] <fermatstheorem> and read whats said there
[03:54] <[nrx] > sams: please, stop asking this. We have tried to help you as best we can but you're not prepared to read the links we give you, then we can't offer any mor.
[03:55] <raven> salut :)
[03:55] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, it is so little in the overall context - it is all the o/s is seeing
[03:55] <sams> :(
[03:55] <fermatstheorem> sams: open terminal, type vi
[03:55] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: sorry didnt get that.. what do you mean so little?
[03:55] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: ROFL
[03:56] <askand> How can I change name on my USBdisk in ubuntu?
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> sams: type install mp3-magic
[03:56] <fermatstheorem> sams: save file and reboot
[03:57] <ompaul> Pirate_Hunter, I don't have an answer for you
[03:57] <lehm2> how to ident ?
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: well leats you tried its just weird not seing 2GB ram and knowing something is taking the memory. But than this is an extended memory pc but its too much ram its taking
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : i wish i made a girl ROFL like htis in real life :(
[03:58] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: i think you've just confused that poor guy beyond belief
[03:58] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: getting him into vi? are you crazy? lol
[03:58] <fermatstheorem> ubuntu has left the room! that settles it, all ubuntu impersonators...
[03:59] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: lol dont tell me u're going to be the next jeppeto
[03:59] <lehm2> what command was for identing ?
[03:59] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : dude, either he should find it himeslf or listen to what people say ...he was was such a whiny
[03:59] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: yeah
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> fermatstheorem: patience not everyone is a quick learner and ppl liek irc cause they think we will tell them the answer guide them as baby but ts not always the truth of reality
[04:00] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: yeah, but it didn't matter how much help we gave,it wasn't taken. I gave him the right urls to look at, so did other people but he didn't want to read. he just wanted the commands to do it all
[04:01] <playdoman> Jack Sparrow: In my bios, its set to show the sata drive as an IDE
[04:01] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: and if we do that, he'll never learn :(
[04:01] <playdoman> and its shows as IDE Master 3
[04:01] <lehm2> what command was for identing in irc ?
[04:01] <fermatstheorem> Pirate_Hunter: arrr..avast pirate_hunter..agree withye
[04:01] <[nrx] > !register | lehm2
[04:01] <ubotu> lehm2: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:01] <Zenerek>  Pirate_Hunter: that's not true, some of us only come in here for help after many solo attempts of trying to solve our own problems, beside can't learn the other way
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: DO you only have one drive in the system.  and one os?
[04:01] <playdoman> Yes
[04:02] <fermatstheorem> Zenerek: it is all darwinian
[04:02] <playdoman> I have The one sata drive, and on Drive C Vista Ultimate is installed
[04:02] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : i did the samethign as he did when i tried ubuntu for the first time new comers are always like that just have to understand that
[04:02] <fermatstheorem> Zenerek: survival of hte politest
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: Are you on a second computer or running live cd
[04:02] <whileimhere> Hi I use a laptop and I dont use 3d effects. Is it safe to remove the compiz packages/
[04:02] <playdoman> running live cd
[04:02] <fermatstheorem> whileimhere: yup
[04:02] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: we all did.. but we all realised that we have to READ up on things and use google.
[04:02] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: we don't get to where we are because we've been spoon fed
[04:03] <whileimhere> fermatstheorem: Thanks.
[04:03] <[nrx] > Pirate_Hunter: one doesn't learn anything by being spoonfed :)
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> [nrx] : i msut have been the lucky one i had jrib and others to tell me the commands i needed
[04:03] <gordonjcp> Pirate_Hunter: some people are basically too stupid to use a computer
[04:03] <gordonjcp> Pirate_Hunter: harsh as it might sound
[04:03] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : i would have helped him, if he was a she and lived few blocks from my place
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> gordonjcp: thats uncalled for especially here lets keep the mood nice
[04:03] <gordonjcp> Pirate_Hunter: you need a certain degree of basic literacy to get anywhere with a computer
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: SInce you have a clean hd and no other os.. I am going to suggest you move the drive to number 1 and tell the cmos to show it as sata...and see if the live cd doesnt pick it up.
[04:03] <Zenerek> fermatstheorem: guess i will survive then, i am always polite and i have two books on ubuntu
[04:03] <playdoman> Uh
[04:03] <playdoman> Jack sparrow
[04:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: hi you'r here didnt notice you here, how r u?
[04:04] <[nrx] > gordonjcp: i second that.. here here!
[04:04] <fermatstheorem> Zenerek: survive!! you will procreate like rabbits in ubuntuland
[04:04] <gordonjcp> Pirate_Hunter: if you have a problem, someone shows you a page that tells you exactly how to fix it and you start going on about how you don't want to read it, tough
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Lurking with a hangover  Morning to ya..
[04:04] <playdoman> Ive got the one hdd, and its partitioned into 5 drives I think, and on the "c" partition, vista ultimate is on it
[04:04] <gordonjcp> Pirate_Hunter: you fix problems by reading the instructions
[04:04] <gordonjcp> very very simple
[04:04] <whileimhere> I am looking to customize my lower GNOME panel with some background or such. Can anyone suggest a site for that. I have been to gnome-look and there is nothing for the customization of the panel in it.
[04:04] <[nrx] > gordonjcp: you hit the ani
[04:04] <[nrx] > gordonjcp: you hit the nail straight on the head :) *
[04:05] <Pirate_Hunter> gordonjcp: with ppl like that you leave them to their own thinking but still lets keep the mood nice this is a community and that was uncalled for
[04:05] <fermatstheorem> whileimhere: there isn't much available you can use stock jpg stuff for that
[04:06] <Zenerek> fermatstheorem: truth us i'm just lurking about right now, sometimes you can pickup good info by just reading...and maybe help out noob or two
[04:06] <whileimhere> fermatstheorem: I was hoping for something more creative. It seems that the capability to use an image would have been really used but so far everyone wants transparency
[04:06] <XsteelWolf> can ubuntu run on ntfs?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[04:06] <sams> ok
[04:06] <sams> the command is not correct
[04:06] <fermatstheorem> Zenerek: thats the true spririt of free software. i wish people had your attitude
[04:06] <AndrewB> sams: what command? Have you got the application installed? What error?
[04:07] <whileimhere> Does anyone know of a site that helps you figure out some of the options in the gconf prog?
[04:07] <fermatstheorem> whileimhere: agreed. folowing the spirit of free software, i suggest you open a feature request report to gnome folks :-)
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Zenerek: Just helping people get enough info into their question is a BIG help
[04:07] <playdoman> and, Jack_Sparrow, I cannot move the drive to IDE 1, as there is cd burner in ide 1 master, and cd reader in ide 1 slave
[04:07] <blueblue123> .
[04:07] <jepp> "VPN-Connection failed": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/139528 ..... what is the reason for that?
[04:07] <playdoman> and because the sata is virtual ide, it cannot move
[04:07] <fermatstheorem> AndrewB: ignore sams, we've tried to help him
[04:07] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: might as well let him try :)
[04:08] <blueblue123> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:08] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : dude.. thats cruel
[04:08] <AndrewB> blueblue123: please don't do that.
[04:08] <Pirate_Hunter> blueblue123: dont do that
[04:08] <XsteelWolf> can ubuntu run on ntfs?
[04:08] <fermatstheorem> blueblue123: i know ubuntu is awsome, you needn't express it so explicitely
[04:08] <[nrx] > fun to watch, fermatstheorem?
[04:08] <AndrewB> XsteelWolf: nope
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: That isnt normally how the drive are installed...  and I thought it was an sata you would be moving not one of the ides
[04:08] <playdoman> Hmm
[04:08] <playdoman> Jack_Sparrow: can you help me in a pm?
[04:08] <Pirate_Hunter> XsteelWolf: it can read ntfs doh
[04:08] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : may be he is an annoy-bot
[04:09] <rfordinal> hi all. i can't solve in ubuntu one problem. i have ut2004 installed but when i try to start it with ./ut2004 command it displays me error "bash: ./ut2004: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> playdoman: go to #Voyager
[04:09] <Zenerek>  Jack_Sparrow: yeah i know the feeling, try ta help someone out, first thing ya gotta do is tell em to dmesg you info or something and hope they know how and what the info is
[04:09] <rfordinal> and with any other game same error.
[04:09] <fermatstheorem> rfordinal: ls -l ut2004 and check fi you have permissions to execute
[04:09] <LasseHavelund> j #ubuntu-dk-moede
[04:09] <jepp> rfordinal, you have to use command line "sudo" or you make it playable for normal user.
[04:10] <whileimhere> When I am in Synaptic under the STATUS button there is an option for "Installed (local or obsolete)" and under that there are several packages like linux-image-Xxxx is it safe o remove those?
[04:10] <rfordinal> jepp: yes I have: "-rwxrwxrwx 1 root games 1251 2006-12-10 14:13 ut2004"
[04:10] <Starcraftmazter> Hello. I have a problem that my via sata controllers aren't recognisable. Via supplies driver binaries for kernel 2.6.20-15, and a patch for any kernel, which need to be compiled. After compiling you get 2 drivers - sata_via.ko and ahci.ko, both of which I have copied to the appropriate place, but with no effect, any suggestions?
[04:10] <fermatstheorem> ce_sabar: we know you, this is the interweb, where sweet_gals are fbi agents
[04:10] <rfordinal> jepp: i have same problem with XXE for example when i try to start it from console
[04:10] <jepp> so "sudo ./ut2004" doesn't work?
[04:11] <rfordinal> jepp: I'm Gentoo user for 4 years, and Ubuntu I have on desktop just 1 month.
[04:11] <fermatstheorem> awright folks, time for some nourishment, catchya later. be safe
[04:11] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : what ;-)
[04:11] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, why is it when i type my password for su, it doesn;t recognize?
[04:12] <[nrx] > raviolli, courgettes and potato scones :D
[04:12] <bullgard4> Where can I obtain information about the Interrupt 15h of current Intel x86 processors? I tried to obtain a data sheet of the Intel M processor at Intel's website but was not sucsessful.
[04:12] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: su is not enabled by default
[04:12] <[nrx] > oh, and the obligatory coffee
[04:12] <rfordinal> jepp: why sudo? I want to play it like normal user. "sudo: unable to execute ./ut2004: Permission denied"
[04:12] <fermatstheorem> gwapo: use sudo
[04:12] <rfordinal> jepp: same error
[04:12] <jepp> rfordinal, so "sudo /DEVICE./ut2004" doesn't work?
[04:12] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : oh! i thought you were having some mornin luvin'
[04:12] <[nrx] > lol
[04:12] <whileimhere> fermatstheorem: Thanks for the help earlier!
[04:13] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: pam and her 5 sisters? :P
[04:13] <fermatstheorem> awright take care folks,
[04:13] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : salt again!
[04:13] <[nrx] > lol
[04:13] <rfordinal> jepp: "sudo: unable to execute /opt/ut2004/ut2004: Permission denied". but I have access to this file
[04:13] <sams> sorry i was on phone
[04:13] <whileimhere> Time to re-boot
[04:14] <Zenerek> rfordinal: well the only way to know for sure if it a permission problem would be to try and run it as root
[04:14] <jepp> rfordinal, try only "ut2004"
[04:15] <Downix> Oh hey there's an Ubuntu for SPARC?  Oh cool!
[04:15] <Ar_Pharazon> Which is correct: "/boot" or "/boot/"? I'm trying to create a new partition.
[04:16] <[nrx] > Ar_Pharazon: /boot
[04:16] <Ar_Pharazon> [nrx]  thank you
[04:16] <[nrx] > np
[04:16] <Zenerek> speaking of shooters anyone here ever start feeling messed up after playing them?
[04:16] <rfordinal> jepp: I have found the problem :) partition was mounted without exec option
[04:17] <jepp> ^^
[04:17] <Ar_Pharazon> zenerek I once played a freeware adventure... That *really* messed me up.
[04:17] <doug__> what program can i use to burn .avi to a blank cd not dvd
[04:17] <sams> nrx i gave the comand u
[04:18] <sams> vi
[04:18] <jepp> "VPN-Connection failed": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/139528 ..... what is the reason for that?
[04:18] <sams> and it showes the ver of ubuntu
[04:19] <[nrx] > !mp3
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <Ronald> WinAmp 5.35 stopped
[04:19] <Zenerek> Ar_Pharazon:  well it used to (has not happened in a while) hapeen to me in shooters that had repetitive and dark rooms made my stomach hurt in a messed up way
[04:19] <doug__> what is a good program to use to burn .avi files?
[04:19] <Zemus> Ronald, how are you running winamp on linux?
[04:19] <Zemus> Ronald, wine?
[04:20] <sams> nrx mp3 is for me ??
[04:20] <Ar_Pharazon> zenerek Well, I do get that if I haven't been sleepin/eating enough.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> doug__: K3B is one of the best burning apps.. will it do what you want.. not sure
[04:20] <[nrx] > sams: yes.
[04:20] <XsteelWolf> can ubuntu run on ntfs?
[04:20] <Zemus> I can't get compiz-fusion to work.
[04:20] <Zemus> I enabled the cube, I ran compiz --replace...
[04:20] <Zemus> nothing's working :(
[04:20] <Zemus> It just won't do any effects.
[04:20] <Starcraftmazter> dang
[04:21] <sams> nothing happn
[04:21] <Zenerek> Ar_Pharazon: i've played other shooters that really did not do anything to me, some of which i enjoy alot like goldeneye,perfect dark(new and old)
[04:21] <[nrx] > sams: i can't help you anymore. sorry.
[04:22] <sams> ok
[04:22] <ddjikic> hi can someone help me i have problem with my graphic card the fan is not working on kubuntu7
[04:22] <sams> trhnax
[04:22] <sams> thanx
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> XsteelWolf: No.. ext2, 3 reiserfs and others will...  has something to do with permissions or something from what I understand..
[04:22] <Ar_Pharazon> Zenerek I didn't play those. But it may be something specific to you. Don't you read the health warnings in manuals? =p
[04:23] <gwapo> fermatstheorem, why is it when i type make during my installation it says No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:23] <Zemus> [nrx] , you are a braver man than I thought to attempt to help him :P
[04:23] <Ar_Pharazon> gwapo he left
[04:24] <[nrx] > Zemus: hah. i've been trying all day and getting nowhere, he doesn't listen so i've given up :)
[04:24] <rexy_> Anyone can tell me what kind of stack hardening has been put in ubuntu in the kernel/gcc?
[04:24] <gwapo> i need help guys. why is it when i type make during my installation of a tar package it says No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:24] <Zemus> [nrx] , he say onleh wut? hoo is the mp3 4 u?
[04:24] <Zemus> xD
[04:24] <Zemus> [nrx] , any experience with compiz-fusion?
[04:25] <rexy_> it is saying it has no makefile gwapo, best ask the people who maintain it
[04:25] <askand> How can I change name on my USBdisk in ubuntu?
[04:25] <[nrx] > Zemus: none at all,sorry lol
[04:25] <pupi120290> is cedegaCVS really free?
[04:25] <sams> how to edit the source file
[04:25] <ddjikic_> hi can someone help me i have problems with my graphic card (ati) on kubuntu7 the fan is not working
[04:26] <Zenerek> Ar_Pharazon: yup but no worries, what they say in those warnings is about tuff like fainting from the epo whatever it's called, i was just wondering if others has felt that is all, but like i said no worries, i've gamed a long time
[04:26] <ddjikic_> ?
 how to edit the source file <-- lmfao, troll
[04:26] <[nrx] > open up /etc/apt/sources.list in your favourite text editor
[04:27] <Ar_Pharazon> Feature request for ubuntu installer: Location options other than "start" and "end". -_-
[04:27] <sams> nrx can i add something in it or not
[04:27] <[nrx] > it's a text file, you can do whatever you want with it
[04:27] <Zemus> hahaha
[04:28] <sams> ok
[04:28] <Ar_Pharazon> I think there's a bug in it two.
[04:29] <pupi120290> i have the instructions for intalling cedegaCVS; i should install x-window-system-dev but there is no such package... what is the package for the development headers for the x-window-system in ubuntu?
[04:29] <ryanakca> How would one setup their keyboad so that altgr-` followed by a == , altgr-` e == , etc?
[04:29] <Tomcat_> pupi120290: Probably libx11-dev
[04:29] <Ar_Pharazon> When you just create 4 primary partitions, the remaining free space suddenly becomes unusable. When you create 3 primaries, then a logical, then another primaries, you can still use it.
[04:29] <davi> ryanakca, Spanish keyboard?
[04:29] <Ar_Pharazon> ...Or am I messing it all up again?
[04:30] <ryanakca> davi: no... I'm trying to get french cars on my dvorak keyboard :)
[04:30] <ryanakca> davi: ... so I would need to find a config file, or an app to manually customize it
[04:30] <catch-22> newbie question: trying to install ubuntu on virtual pc. get only a blinking cursor after pressing install
[04:30] <davi> ryanakca, I can not help you  :(
[04:30] <sams> Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.
[04:30] <[nrx] > sams: need to open with sudo
[04:31] <tom_> catch-22 try the alternate cd
[04:31] <terry__> et
[04:31] <sams> give me the command
[04:31] <jrib> ryanakca: system -> preferences -> keyboard, try setting the compose key
[04:31] <[nrx] > what command did you use to open it before?
[04:32] <jepp> how can I set up a VPN manually WITHOUT networkmanager
[04:32] <tom_> sams, read what he says, type sudo in front of the command you already used
[04:32] <sams> without command i open it
[04:32] <Zenerek> Ar_Pharazon: i wa about to ask here if someone new if there were a limited number of primary partitions you could create (for the prob you're having) but i think the reason is cause you must a linux swap file space or partition if you will
[04:32] <[nrx] > sams:
[04:32] <sams> tom bro without command i opend the file
[04:32] <[nrx] > drop to konsole, type "sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:32] <catch-22> tom: tried already. no differnce.
[04:32] <tom_> sams: type sudo gedit and open the file from there
[04:33] <Zenerek> oh crap i put new instead of knew....damn typos
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Zenerek,  you can have 4 Primary partitions. hda1 through hda4, one can be a extended partition, that can then hold logical partitions (hda5+)
[04:33] <ryanakca> jrib: hmm. maybe I should've asked in #kubuntu... I was hoping a system wide type thing? I guess I could try running the command and see if it would apply to X.Org?
[04:33] <sams> ok tom bro
[04:33] <tom_> catch-22 not sure, what virtual pc? 2004 or 2007?
[04:33] <pupi120290> have a problem if i sudo aptitude; i get 'Error opening terminal: xterm.'
[04:33] <Zemus> I can't get compiz-fusion to work.
[04:33] <Zemus> I enabled the cube, I ran compiz --replace...
[04:33] <gavri_> I picked the wrong keyboard layout installing ubuntu. actually, I chose the option where I answer questions about whether I have certain keys on my keyboard
[04:33] <Zemus> nothing's working :(
[04:33] <Zemus> It just won't do any effects.
[04:33] <riddlebox> how come asterisk 1.2.16 is the latest available version in the repos? 1.2.x is now in maintenance mode?
[04:33] <Ar_Pharazon> Zenerek, yeah, I gather it's best not to have more than 4 primaries, and I already have a swap partition, it's sda1. Thing is, if you do 4 primaries first, it doesn't let you create logicals any more.
[04:34] <catch-22> tom: 2007. as done here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004
[04:34] <kidbuntu> !lightscribe
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <gavri_> I saw something that looked like double-quotes and so inputted that I have the key
[04:34] <kidbuntu> !lacie
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lacie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <jrib> ryanakca: I suppose, I don't know about kde, but I think the term for what you are doing is usually referred to as a "dead key" or "compose key", so that might help with google
[04:34] <tom_> catch-22 yeah, but the 2004 or the 2007 edition of virtual pc
[04:34] <gavri_> and now the single/double quotes key isn't working
[04:34] <tom_> you have to make sure you use the howto for the right version of virtual pc
[04:34] <Argazm> hi folks... is their a way to remove certain ubuntu programs from the repo. without uninstalling the whole gnome desktop as well ???
[04:35] <Zemus> There are almost 1200 people in here and none of them will even notice my issue. :|
[04:35] <pratki> how i install ssh?
[04:35] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop  | Argazm
[04:35] <jrib> !ssh > pratki (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:35] <ubotu> Argazm: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[04:35] <jrib> pratki: the server or the client?
[04:35] <Zenerek> Ar_Pharazon: Dr_willis just explained it
[04:35] <Zemus> prabs, sudo aptitude install ssh
[04:35] <parmomike> hi, is there a synoptic tool i can use to see why my system keeps crashing?
[04:35] <catch-22> tom: 2007 edition of virtual pxc
[04:35] <Zemus> pratki, sudo aptitude install ssh
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Argazm,  gnome-desktop is a meta-package,  removeing it wont break anything. but its best to reinstall it befor doing a dist upgrade
[04:35] <Lhademmo1> Anyone who knows of an Amarok alternative to GNOME?
[04:35] <ryanakca> jrib: aha, cool, found http://www.linux.com/feature/118179 ... thanks :D
[04:35] <Lhademmo1> *GNOME alternative to Amarok
[04:35] <monkeyBox> How do I get NetworkManager to show in my notification area?  It's running, but it's not showing up there...
[04:35] <tom_> Zemus: there is plenty that can go wrong with fusion, are you trying to get it on feisty or gutsy?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Lhademmo1,  'Juk' ?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !info juk
[04:36] <Zenerek> and yeah i thought it was 4 max but i forgot
[04:36] <ubotu> juk: music organizer and player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 705 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[04:36] <tom_> catch-22 and what version of ubuntu?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm thats kde also.. doh.
[04:36] <Zemus> tom_, feisty bro :P
[04:36] <pratki> how I install mc?
[04:36] <tom_> Zemus: in for some pain :)
[04:36] <Lhademmo1> Dr_willis, no GNOME natives worth mentioning?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> pratki,  sudo apt-get install mc
[04:36] <Zemus> tom_, worked perfectly last time :/
[04:36] <pratki> how I install MC?
[04:36] <jrib> pratki: install the "mc" package
[04:36] <riddlebox> pratki, sudo apt-get install mc
[04:36] <tom_> Zemus: same hardware?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> Lhademmo1,  i dont worry about which is for what. I use what programs i like. :) i mixx and match
[04:36] <catch-22> tom: latest. downloaded today, so 7.04
[04:37] <Argazm> I wanna remove the image viewer and replace it with gpicview instead...
[04:37] <Zemus> tom_, yeah, I just accidentally installed with x86 isos last time, and now I've done the correct x64 isos, and I'm doing everything again... I needed help last time, but it worked.
[04:37] <Ar_Pharazon> GAH! Why are does gparted use GiB when it means Gigabyte? Or am I mistaken?
[04:37] <Zemus> tom_, any chance you could pm me on it?
[04:37] <parmomike> is there a synoptic tool i can use to show why my system keeps freezing?
[04:37] <kidbuntu> has anyone here succesfully installed a lightscribe labeler in feisty?
[04:37] <Nighthawk420> hello, is ther a way to get my bluetooth headset working in feisty?
[04:38] <Lhademmo1> Dr_willis, but doesn't using KDE programs impair the speed (i.e. GNOME runs faster, right?)
[04:38] <rafaelscj> hello
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Lhademmo1,  not that i have noticed..
[04:38] <pratki> how I install shh?
[04:38] <pratki> how I install ssh?
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Lhademmo1,  depends on you machine also.
[04:38] <jrib> pratki: the server or the client?
[04:38] <nanonyme> pratki, don't loop
[04:38] <Zemus> tom_, ...?
[04:38] <Dr_willis> pratki,  fire up the package manager and use its search feature.. gesh. :)
[04:38] <tom_> catch-22: i hear more people are succesful using this: http://arcanecode.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/installing-ubuntu-610-on-virtual-pc-2007-step-by-step/
[04:39] <Lhademmo1> Dr_willis, okay.. so you'd recommend Juk over Amarok?
[04:39] <kidbuntu> anyone succesfully installed?
[04:39] <tom_> Zemus: sure, but i'm no compiz expert
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Lhademmo1,  i suggest use them both.. then use what you like.
[04:39] <parmomike> anyone help??
[04:39] <nanonyme> and if you would have used aptitude to try to install ssh, it would have told you what you could install
[04:39] <nanonyme> i think
[04:39] <jrib> !anyone | parmomike
[04:39] <ubotu> parmomike: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:39] <Zemus> tom_, ok :)
[04:39] <pratki> how I install ssh?
[04:39] <Zenerek> hey why i'm here, i got this damn annoying problem, i can't get 5.1 sound to work correctly, when i choose 5.1 the damn sound studders
[04:39] <Dr_willis> pratki,  sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:39] <Dr_willis> pratki,  sudo apt-get install WHATEVERYOUWANT
[04:39] <pratki> heelp plz how i instal the ssh?
[04:39] <jrib> pratki: you need to answer the questions people ask or at least read what they say to get help
[04:40] <parmomike> how abou t me?
[04:40] <CrashTest_> Hi All, is anyone familiar with the Windows editor, EditPlus?  If you are, do you know of any Linux editor that has ftp built in like that does?  The ftp as a bookmark/file pane in gedit only lets me open some files read only.
[04:40] <XsteelWolf> pratki
[04:40] <catch-22> tom: thanks. will read and try.
[04:40] <XsteelWolf> ssh should be install by default
[04:40] <XsteelWolf> terminal : ssh IP
[04:40] <Argazm> is their an easy way to tell gnome what image viewer to use instead of it's own ?
[04:40] <pratki> heelp plz how I install ssh?
[04:40] <Argazm> and also to turn OFF thumbnail creation
[04:40] <rafaelscj> !ask | parmomike
[04:40] <ubotu> parmomike: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:40] <Dr_willis> pratki,  youve been answered.
[04:40] <parmomike> is there a synoptic tool i can use to show why my system keeps freezing?
[04:40] <XsteelWolf> !ssh
[04:40] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:40] <monkeyBox> Is there any reason why the NetworkManager would not show up in my notification area?
[04:41] <jrib> pratki: stop repeating that, you've been told the answer many times
[04:41] <jrib> !defaultapp > Argazm (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:41] <jrib> Argazm: check  edit -> preferences -> preview  in nautilus
[04:41] <gege08> hello
[04:41] <kidbuntu> how do you convert this to .deb using alien "4L-1.0-r6.i586.rpm"?
[04:41] <CrashTest_> monkeyBox: do you mean NetworkMonitor?
[04:42] <rafaelscj> I am behind a ICS/firewall. do I need a firewall? it is enablad by default, right?
[04:42] <gege08> Please, all, what is the name of the french ubuntu channel ?
[04:42] <[nrx] > !fr
[04:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:42] <stefg> !fr
[04:42] <stefg> !alien
[04:42] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:42] <gavri_> how do I change my keyboard layout to us?
[04:42] <jrib> kidbuntu: what are you trying to install, you should avoid using alien
[04:42] <monkeyBox> CrashTest_:  No, NetworkManager... the one where you can configure different network settins for different locations
[04:42] <jrib> !firewall > rafaelscj (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:43] <gege08> Thanks all
[04:43] <tom_> gavri_ you can change it by editing xorg.conf
[04:43] <monkeyBox> CrashTest_: It's supposed to show up in the notification area
[04:43] <kidbuntu> jrib: i'm trying to install a lightscribe disk labeler
[04:43] <jrib> gege08: please disable that script in here
[04:43] <gavri_> that impacts the keyboard layout for the console too?
[04:43] <tom_> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the keyboard layout setting
[04:43] <Argazm> can I tell gnome NOT to save thumbnails ???
[04:43] <tom_> gavri_ no
[04:43] <tom_> gavri_ only the gui
[04:44] <jrib> kidbuntu: hmm, don't know of any of those
[04:44] <gavri_> tom_, what about the console?
[04:44] <jrib> Argazm: check  edit -> preferences -> preview  in nautilus
[04:44] <parmomike> is there a synoptic tool i can use to show why my system keeps freezing?
[04:44] <rafaelscj> jrib, so, iptables is enabled by default, right?
[04:44] <CrashTest_> monkeyBox: Yes I see that now, I don't know why, if you are running a network, you should see it.  Do you want the URL from the About?
[04:44] <Zenerek>  jrib: so my guess was rightalien is not safe to use?
[04:44] <jrib> rafaelscj: there are no rules by default
[04:44] <CrashTest_> monkeyBox: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[04:44] <jrib> rafaelscj: there are also no services listening on any ports...
[04:45] <jrib> Zenerek: I've heard of some cases where it has messed things up (overwrote libs)
[04:45] <CrashTest_> monkeyBox: There is a mailing list archive at the bottom of that page that might help
[04:45] <rafaelscj> jrib, hum, no rules, I am receiving alerts from firestarter... thanks
[04:45] <tom_> gavri_ try man loadkeys
[04:45] <jrib> rafaelscj: ah, well when you install firestarter, it will create rules
[04:45] <parmomike> is there another channel for noob questions where i wont be ignored??
[04:45] <Nighthawk420> hello, is ther a way to get my bluetooth headset working in feisty?????????????????//
[04:45] <tom_> gavri_ something like : loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/azerty/fr-latin1.map.gz
[04:45] <catch-22> tom: cheers. already farther than previously.
[04:45] <jrib> !patience | parmomike
[04:45] <ubotu> parmomike: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:45] <gavri_> thanks, tom_
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> parmomike ur gunna get ignored her
[04:46] <monkeyBox> ugh
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> cuz this place is full of assholes
[04:46] <parmomike> i am being already
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> me too
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> iv been succesfull in her one
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> time
[04:46] <parmomike> i just want an acknowledgment, not even an answer
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> yea i no
[04:46] <Zenerek>  jrib: hmmm sounds risky ,never used it that's why i asked, i like to get heads up on things in case i have to try them sometime
[04:46] <stefg> parmomike: that's certainly not synaptics fault. there's a whole dir (/var/log) full of logs, rather try to be more precise on how and when the system freezes
[04:46] <tom_> catch-22 glad to hear
[04:46] <Nighthawk420> hello, is ther a way to get my bluetooth headset working in feisty?????????????????//
[04:46] <[nrx] > !patience | Nighthawk420
[04:46] <ubotu> Nighthawk420: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:47] <jrib> Nighthawk420, parmomike: no one ignores you on purpose, but if we don't know the answer, we can't help you
[04:47] <[nrx] > Nighthawk420: it also doesn't help that you call us all arseholes :)
[04:47] <parmomike> ok sorry, i wasnt meaning to be rude
[04:47] <Nighthawk420> [nrx] , just stating a fact that is full of truth
[04:48] <parmomike> ive installed ubuntu for the first time on firday and been trying to solve my problem all weekend. can someone take 5 mins one on one with me to give it a go?
[04:48] <[nrx] > Nighthawk420: this so called fact-telling is going to get you ignored and eventually removed from the channel, so it's detrimental to your ends
[04:48] <tom_> Nighthawk420: there are obviously more ppl here asking questions than people able to respond, we can't serve ev eryone
[04:48] <stefg> parmomike: no need to be sorry (didn't think you were rude) just kicking you in the right direction. This channel is scrolling fast, so answers are kept short and (hopefully) precise
[04:48] <Argazm> parmomike: what's the problem
[04:48] <Luger> I typed pppoeconf in the terminal and I get this message: Sorry, I scanned 3 interfaces, but Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network & modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[04:48] <Luger> Anyone has an idea?
[04:48] <rajivr> hey guys... when I do apt-get install lighttpd it says package not found, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/lighttpd  tells me that a package is available for dapper
[04:48] <Nighthawk420> i no [nrx] ... im just trying to get helped.... i no its a fast room... im just trying to get my bluetooth working
[04:48] <rafaelscj> I am about to install kubuntu-desktop. will it be the default windows manager?
[04:48] <rajivr> any ideas?
[04:48] <Zenerek> Nighthawk420: damn first time i've seen everyone called an arse in hear at the sametime
[04:49] <Argazm> rafaelscj: no, not unless you select it during login
[04:49] <faileas> rajivr: it must be a deb on the site, not a deb on a repo?
[04:49] <jrib> rafaelscj: you can make it so at the login screen by pressing the "options" or "sessions" button
[04:49] <Luger> Anyone know a solution for: Sorry, I scanned 3 interfaces, but Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network & modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[04:49] <rafaelscj> thank you
[04:49] <Luger> That's the error what I get when I type pppoeconf in the terminal
[04:50] <Nighthawk420> Zenerek, sry i was just a lil pissed off
[04:50] <nanbudh> Hi guys!
[04:50] <[nrx] > hi
[04:50] <fermatstheorem> josephine: josephine, meet [nrx] 
[04:50] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : meet josephone
[04:50] <rajivr> faileas: my /etc/apt/sources.list has deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted in it...
[04:50] <Argazm> is their such a program to scan all installed packages and select one's with no dependancies so you can uninstall (like a cleanup prog)
[04:50] <faileas> o0
[04:50] <fermatstheorem> err josephine
[04:50] <nanbudh> anyone knows of a software which can be used to practice touch  typing?
[04:50] <[nrx] > Hi there imaginary girlfriend of fermatstheorem
[04:50] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : no!
[04:50] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: lol ;p
[04:50] <jrib> parmomike: yeah, I didn't mean to say you were rude.  But, here's how to get help: you ask, and then wait.  If no one answers you, you repeat after about 10-15 minutes when new people have joined and you try the other !support options
[04:51] <nanbudh> argazm: i also need such a program
[04:51] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : thoughti would intrdoce you to a nice, girl and get some good karma
[04:51] <faileas> rajivr: that just means that you have *a* repo. not *a* repo *with the package(
[04:51] <Gunawan> aloo
[04:51] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : btw, a user called josephine logged in
[04:51] <faileas> nanbudh: IRC? ;p
[04:51] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: me? good karma? pffft ;p
[04:51] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: i noticed lol
[04:51] <kidbuntu> !beryl
[04:51] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:51] <Gunawan> why i cant login to http://localhost:631/admin
[04:51] <stefg> How do i set the system clock to *not* use UTC any more? Had to install win on a box where previously only ubuntu was on and set clock to use UTC and my timezone. now clock is always off 2h when  comming back from win
[04:51] <parmomike> ok, jrib thanks, feel like im going nowhere fast is all
[04:51] <CrashTest_> I stepped away for like a minute, and now there are 244239 new messages.  Man, fast.  So, do any of you programmers out there use an editor that has FTP built in?  If so, what is it?
[04:51] <Gunawan> cups configuration
[04:51] <jrib> nanbudh: there's tuxtype
[04:51] <nanbudh> faileas: i din get what u said
[04:52] <parmomike> !support
[04:52] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[04:52] <tom_> CrashTest: vi can execute arbitrary commands
[04:52] <fermatstheorem> CrashTest_: emacs
[04:52] <rajivr> faileas: how do i find out which repo has the package... http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/lighttpd isn't this one suppose to be ubuntu standard?
[04:52] <fermatstheorem> CrashTest_: infact, emacs has a buillt-in OS, if you catch the drift
[04:52] <jrib> parmomike: if you're just getting random freezes, I would do a memtest (option at the grub menu)
[04:52] <tom_> fermatstheorem: that's why iu prefer vi, it passes the commands to a real os :D
[04:53] <Gunawan> why i cant login tu localhost:631 but im root
[04:53] <fermatstheorem> parmomike: i second jrib
[04:53] <parmomike> will do thx
[04:53] <Zenerek> Nighthawk420:  well i gonna cut you some slack, just know that this channel is not meant to hold your hand, just read up on the hcitool, better yet open terminal and type apropos blutooth  it will tell you all commands relating to bluetooth
[04:53] <stefg> It's not tzconfig, the timezone is set right. but the CMOS clock is now local time, not utc any more
[04:53] <CrashTest_> fermatstheorem: Thanks fermatstheorem, I have tried using it, but frankly, it has confused me every time I try to work with it.  I will take another look though.
[04:53] <faileas> rajivr: apt-cache search to see if its there. else i'd dig around the site for a deb.
[04:53] <rafaelscj> stefg, did you try right-click on date/time then preferences?
[04:53] <fermatstheorem> tom_: i presume you are wearing a n asbestos undie
[04:53] <nanbudh> yes tuxtype is there but i dont want it for english. i want it for punjabi(an indian language) is there something which can be adapted for that?punjabi i mean(unicode, with inscript keyboard). please help
[04:53] <tom_> fermatstheorem :)
[04:53] <fermatstheorem> CrashTest_: i aint sure if any other decent editor can do that
[04:54] <Argazm> nanbudh:  look in the repo. for a program called DebOrphan... it'll do what we ask...
[04:54] <th3man> why is vmware on ubuntu so slow?
[04:54] <Gunawan> why i cant login tu localhost:631 but im root
[04:54] <bullgard4> Is it possible to download a data sheet of the Intel Celeron processor from http://downloadcenter.intel.com/? I seem not to succeed.
[04:54] <faileas> rajivr: alternately, i'd consider a compilation
[04:54] <nanbudh> argaz:DebOrphan? ok i ll see
[04:54] <fermatstheorem> th3man: check if your h/w has enough bling, you may also want to increase the memory allocated to vmware
[04:54] <faileas> bullgard4: try intel, they have it
[04:54] <CrashTest_> fermatstheorem: gedit can access files across networks that you have bookmarked, but it opens in read only.
[04:54] <Gunawan> cupsd.conf are default
[04:54] <faileas> oops
[04:55] <bullgard4> faileas: I did try Intel!
[04:55] <CrashTest_> off to try to learn emacs, again :)
[04:55] <stefg> rafaelscj: this is a fluxbox /cli only system.  and the command would be tzconfig, baut that's just not doing what i need. It's some basic setting. i need to tell the box: see, your Cmos clock is no longer UTC, but localtime now, although your timezone is still the same
[04:55] <tom_> CrahsTest_: you could mount an ftp folder and edit the files
[04:55] <jrib> Gunawan: I think you need to add the cupsys user to the shadow group
[04:55] <th3man> fermatstheorem: i had better performance on centos 4
[04:55] <fermatstheorem> CrashTest_: you may want to download hte emacs manual from gnu.org
[04:55] <faileas> bullgard4: sorry. my bad
[04:55] <Gunawan> ouhh
[04:55] <CrashTest_> tom_: It opens them read only
[04:55] <Gunawan> thanks
[04:55] <rajivr> faileas: apt-cache search lighttpd doesn't work... i already have compiled it myself... but what to get away from it for standard packages...
[04:55] <CrashTest_> fermatstheorem: thanks, will do
[04:55] <th3man> fermatstheorem: but when i switched over to ubuntu... it sucked
[04:55] <tom_> CrashTest_: if you use gnome vfs, yes, if you use unix mount: no
[04:55] <fermatstheorem> th3man: perfoamce is a tricky issue and there is no silver bullet,
[04:56] <jrib> Gunawan: in ubuntu, there's system -> administration -> printing which should let you add a printer too
[04:56] <rajivr> faileas:  can't seem to understand why it isn't working... seems strange... to me..
[04:56] <CrashTest_> tom_: OOOOHHhhhhhh, the light dawns :)
[04:56] <nanbudh> downloading debOrphan now
[04:56] <Narada> hi; i'm trying to enable webdav+apache2 on /var/www/testdav but not working; i've tested with cadaver but i get: 405 Method Not Allowed Could not access /testdav/ (not WebDAV-enabled?): my conf is at http://rafb.net/p/y3hcVQ47.html; what am i doing wrong
[04:56] <faileas> rajivr: does it turn up on apt-cache search?
[04:56] <jrib> Gunawan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface
[04:56] <fermatstheorem> anyway, has anybody tried to locate and config printers using zeroconf?
[04:56] <Gunawan> jrib,  yups but i wanna share  that print to windows XP bro
[04:56] <CrashTest_> tom_: so can you mount ftp from the mount command?
[04:56] <rajivr> faileas: nothing...
[04:57] <nanbudh> u know what we need in ubuntu is a utility which will show all the installed applications on our system. whether they have been done thru synaptic or thru building
[04:57] <faileas> which means your repos don't have it
[04:57] <onats> hello, i booted from usb.. will all of the changes/new packages i installed stay after i reboot?
[04:57] <rajivr> faileas: however it manages to find apache... and other packages... strangely...
[04:57] <tom_> CrashTest_ see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_FTP_Mount for example
[04:57] <faileas> rajivr: cause those packages are on the repos!
[04:57] <fermatstheorem> has anybody played with zeroconf inubuntu
[04:57] <stefg> ok, to answer my question myself: /etc/defaults/rcS has a parameter UTC=yes or no ... man tzconfig
[04:57] <tom_> CrashTest_ or google :)
[04:57] <rafaelscj> stefg, sorry, that worked for me
[04:57] <jimmacdonald> Dr_willis: are you around?
[04:58] <CrashTest_> tom_: Thanks man!  That rocks!
[04:58] <nanbudh> can anybody direct me to a link which tells me what exactly what goes on behind the curtains when some program is installed?
[04:58] <tom_> CrashTest_ http://freshmeat.net/projects/ftpfs/
[04:58] <onats> anyone?
[04:58] <fermatstheorem> nanbudh: logs...
[04:58] <Dr_willis> jimmacdonald,  Huh?
[04:58] <CrashTest_> tom_: Wow, now THAT is cool!
[04:58] <rajivr> faileas: okay... let me browse around the repos and see what is happening... not particularly intrerested in apache...
[04:58] <Gunawan> jrib, Thanks bro
[04:58] <ycmarvin> is there a way to connect/mount my p910i using ubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_willis> nanbudh,  the apt-get documention/apt docs - tell ya how the apt system works.
[04:59] <faileas> hmm
[04:59] <Gunawan> know i have login to thats
[04:59] <Gunawan> :)
[04:59] <faileas> rajivr: see if you got universe enabled
[04:59] <fermatstheorem> ycmarvin: p910i...is that some storage device?
[04:59] <Imperdimper> Hey people, I'm having a terrible time with my audio, just doesn't seem to want to work.  Seeing now if anyone out there has any really good troubleshooting pages I can try.
[04:59] <nanbudh> fermats:logs.. hmm.. but i am not brainy and experienced enuf to understand the logs, but anyway i shall give it a go. where can i read these log files?
[04:59] <tvrg> CrashTest_ yes it is :)
[04:59] <onats> is anyone familiar with booting from usb?
[04:59] <fermatstheorem> Imperdimper: did you check if your audio is supported?
[04:59] <jimmacdonald> Tom_ : http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/
[04:59] <CrashTest_> tvrg: says it is obsoleted by lufs
[04:59] <jrib> nanbudh: you would probably want to read a lot of http://www.us.debian.org/doc/
[05:00] <CrashTest_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lufs/
[05:00] <fermatstheorem> nanbudh: all logs are in /var
[05:00] <nanbudh> apt-get, apt-docs. i think thats the way, thanks a lot
[05:00] <tvrg> CrashTest_ don't use it myself, just know it's possible
[05:00] <nanbudh> thanks fermat
[05:00] <Imperdimper> fermatstheorem:  Ubuntu finds the audio card, and it 'pops' on startup, it just doesn't play any audio.  No system sounds, no mp3s, no nothing.
[05:00] <rocunreal> I screwed up my Taskbar and junk and i want the Basic starting Layout back is that possible?
[05:00] <rajivr> faileas: i haven't enabled universe... don't want to install packages... which don't have security updates... http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/lighttpd seem to have security updates...
[05:00] <fermatstheorem> Imperdimper: no mp3,- codec problem
[05:01] <nanbudh> so guys how did u all learn to type so fast?
[05:01] <ycmarvin> fermatstheorem, it is an old sony ericsson pda phone
[05:01] <fermatstheorem> Imperdimper: did you check if alsamixer works?
[05:01] <tvrg> nanbudh: doing it a lot :)
[05:01] <rocunreal> I screwed up my Taskbar and junk and i want the Basic starting Layout back is that possible?    without creating a new user
[05:01] <rajivr> faileas: which is why i'm interested in it... otherwise, will manage it myself... much better... that way...
[05:01] <nanbudh> i really need a type tutor for punjabi he he
[05:01] <rafaelscj> Imperdimper, was your sound working?
[05:01] <nanbudh> tvrg: right :->>
[05:01] <nanbudh> :-))
[05:01] <howlingmadhowie> rocunreal: you could try renanming the .gnome directory and seeing if it generates a new one next time you login
[05:02] <rocunreal> Alright ill try that thanks man
[05:02] <nanbudh> but u know since ubuntu is all for regional languages how about developing a typing tutor software which can be adapted for any unicode set
[05:02] <nanbudh> ?
[05:02] <Zenerek> bye all gota go watch meet the press
[05:02] <howlingmadhowie> rocunreal: on my system there's a gconf, a gconfd, a gnome and a gnome2 directory. i'd find the right one by trial and error :)
[05:03] <Imperdimper> rafaelscj:  No, never worked.  I've installed Ubuntu recently and it was dead on startup.  Haven't done much with the OS because without audio it's not really a computer to me.
[05:03] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: did you check if your audio card is supported in linux?
[05:03] <nanbudh> i know this for a fact that if one wants a doc typed in hindi/punjabi here in chandigarh, finding a typist is like a finding a needle in a haystack
[05:04] <Imperdimper> fermatstheore1: would it detect it if it isn't supported?  And would the audio 'pop' on startup, like it's initializing?
[05:04] <tvrg> nanbudh: i suppose punjabi is from india?
[05:04] <tvrg> nanbudh: i wouldn't know the first thing about that :)
[05:04] <nanbudh> yes tvrg its from north india
[05:04] <faileas> rajivr: enable universe, check if its there, then decide if you want it ;p
[05:04] <aljembali> hi
[05:04] <Hoag> Hey, I just installed FlightGear from the repositories, but I don't know the command to run it. Is there any way to find out?
[05:04] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: 'pop' - proper music like thingie or system noise
[05:04] <whileimhere> Is there a graphical way to watch my network upload?
[05:04] <nanbudh> punjab is a north indian state, quite a good one, prosperous and enterprising
[05:05] <rajivr> faileas: sure... let me try it... :) thanks for the help...
[05:05] <nanbudh> buit all the official works, education, most of it is done in english
[05:05] <tvrg> nanbudh: and you would need a tutor or an editor?
[05:05] <rafaelscj> whileimhere, firestarter shows something
[05:05] <nanbudh> which is good  but regional languages are being neglected
[05:05] <Knight_On_White> hello, i am trying to install on new computer the Ubuntu server 7.04 64 bit, i get a msg "178.980000 Buffer I/O error on device FD0, Logical Block 0" what should i do ?
[05:05] <nanbudh> a tutor
[05:05] <aljembali> need help..how to check what kind of grafic card did i use?
[05:05] <nanbudh> because nobody knows how to type
[05:06] <Imperdimper> fermatstheore1:  Just a 'pop', I get the same thing in Windows on startup when the soundcard is initialized.  It's not actually a sound, it's like if I plug in new speakers with a system already running, there will be a 'pop' sound as soon as I plug it in.
[05:06] <tvrg> nanbudh: i wouldn't know
[05:06] <fermatstheore1> aljembali: system->pref->h/w info
[05:06] <nanbudh> the people who do type in punjabi are professionals in the publishng industry not
[05:06] <CrashTest_> thanks for the help folks!
[05:06] <aljembali> thanks
[05:06] <nanbudh> the common people, common people just type in english
[05:06] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: i suspect lack of software support
[05:06] <tvrg> nanbudh: my brothers gf is from india, nut has been in belgium all her life, so i don't suppose she knows either :)
[05:06] <ycmarvin> how do you guys mount sony ericsson phones in ubuntu
[05:06] <faileas> lol
[05:07] <faileas> nanbudh: yeah. same as with tamil ;p
[05:07] <Imperdimper> fermatstheore1:  Ok, at least that gives me a place to start, have any suggested websites I can look at for troubleshooting purposes?
[05:07] <nanbudh> i would not mind jumping in on developing such a thing if i get guidance, cos i am a hobbyist programmer in VB, i hv to stil laern python
[05:07] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: find out your audio chipset and google for linux support, cuz ubuntu has the best h/w suppport amonst the distros and if it aint detected it properly it might be driver support
[05:08] <tvrg> nanbudh: python learns fast
[05:08] <nanbudh> but it would be great if an experienced person takes the lead
[05:08] <tvrg> nanbudh: google "dive into python", free online book
[05:08] <pckill> Hi^^
[05:08] <mikeconcepts> please advise, what controls the gnome login screen resolution?
[05:08] <tvrg> nanbudh: if you already have programming basics it should work out fine using that book
[05:08] <fermatstheore1> mikeconcepts: system->pref->screen resolution
[05:08] <aljembali> Vendor :nVidia Corporation   Device :NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]    may i use this for berly?
[05:09] <Imperdimper> okies fermatstheore1, I'll do that, thanks loads.  Though with my track record with Linux, I suspect I will be back.
[05:09] <nanbudh> i think i could easily pick uop python on my way, only if someone knows what do to for this typing software thing
[05:09] <nanbudh> tvrg where r u from?
[05:09] <tvrg> nanbudh: belgium, europe
[05:09] <nanbudh> yeah belgium
[05:09] <aljembali> Vendor :nVidia Corporation   Device :NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]    may i use this for berly?
[05:09] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: best wishes. don't worry things will turn out ok.
[05:09] <nanbudh> queen of belgium learnt how to do a headstand from yoga guru iyengar
[05:10] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: as an avid linux user, i always check for linxu support before i buy a new hardware :-)
[05:10] <nanbudh> at the age of 80
[05:10] <nanbudh> it was quite a feat
[05:10] <nanbudh> iyengar is a great yoga guru
[05:10] <tvrg> nanbudh: maybe you could team up with a typing teacher from your area?
[05:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[05:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:10] <nanbudh> the problem with indian languages is that
[05:10] <tvrg> nanbudh: or look at the features of an existing typing software
[05:10] <fermatstheore1> Pici: :-)
[05:11] <nanbudh> many keyboards are prevalent
[05:11] <endo> W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[05:11] <nanbudh> there is no standard keyset which everyone uses
[05:11] <endo> how can I fix that?
[05:11] <Imperdimper> fermatstheore1: Well, it's an old computer...6 or so years old, guess a middle-aged computer.  Plus when I put it together I threw in a load of popular hardware at the time, so I'm reasonably sure that everything will be supported, I hope
[05:11] <nanbudh> and the conventional typwriter use a diff keyboard
[05:12] <jrib> nanbudh: have you looked at gtypist?  In "more lessons", it seems to have languages other than english, but no punjabi.  You may be able to find a punjabi lesson or right your own by looking at the other languages
[05:12] <etale> how can i change the default ubuntu bootsplash?
[05:12] <jrib> !usplash > etale (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:12] <etale> I want something more verbose
[05:12] <nanbudh> indian govt developed the inscript keyboard, which has been refined by some guys and that is what i want to learn
[05:12] <aljembali> etale: use goggle
[05:12] <aljembali> wakaka
[05:12] <fermatstheore1> Imperdimper: yup. just systematcially look for stuff, let me tellya, driver hell in windows is aint trivial either
[05:12] <nanbudh> thanks jrib i ll have a look
[05:12] <mikeconcepts> I'm on gutsy and the login screen resolution is not the same as the screen resolution once logged in
[05:12] <mikeconcepts>  so setting in preferences isn't helping
[05:12] <jrib> etale: well, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of the "quiet" option being passed to your kernel (and just get rid of splash too)
[05:12] <fermatstheore1> !offtopic
[05:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:13] <fermatstheore1> !offtopic >nanbundh
[05:13] <jrib> mikeconcepts: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[05:13] <etale> jrib: thx
[05:13] <mikeconcepts> they aren't responding
[05:13] <fermatstheore1> mikeconcepts: you might want to check with xorg.conf file
[05:13] <Hoag> How do you find the command to run a program you installed from the package manager?
[05:13] <tvrg> jrib: was googling for an oss typing trainer, nice one
[05:13] <jrib> mikeconcepts: be patient, it's not as active as here
[05:13] <nanbudh> ahem, sorry if am offtopic
[05:14] <fermatstheore1> Hoag: you can look into the menu item
[05:14] <fermatstheore1> Hoag: or go to synapic and rightclick on the package and go to properties
[05:14] <Madnez> hi i have this error ERROR: could not open log file vultures_log.txt for appending: Permission denied
[05:14] <Madnez> [vultures_sdl.c: 402]  ERROR: Could not initialize SDL: No available video device
[05:15] <Madnez> what files am i missing?
[05:15] <tvrg> Madnez: what are you trying to run?
[05:15] <Madnez> vulture eye
[05:15] <fermatstheore1> Madnez: check ls -la <filename> for rwx permissions
[05:15] <Hoag> fermatstheorel: Ahh, thanks. :D Found it
[05:15] <mmcdill> Can anyone help me with a 403 error on apache2?
[05:15] <fermatstheore1> Hoag: you are welcome
[05:15] <nanbudh> jrib gtype is installed but i cant find it in menu!
[05:15] <tvrg> nanbudh: type gtype in terminal or use F2
[05:16] <tvrg> nanbudh: euh gtypist
[05:16] <Madnez> hmm
[05:16] <Madnez> check cmd unkown
[05:16] <tvrg> nanbudh: it's a console app
[05:16] <tvrg> Madnez:  check wasn't included in the command :)
[05:16] <Madnez> i compiled this from RPM using alien as stated on forums
[05:17] <nanbudh> terminal says command not found
[05:17] <tvrg> Madnez: do "sudo chmod a+w /path/to/logfile"
[05:17] <KurtKraut> Maybe it's the fifth time when I join that channel the song 'Dont you want me babe' from the Human League plays in Rhythmbox... quite wierd, isnt it ? :P
[05:17] <Madnez> lolz... fermat said use check =.=!
[05:17] <jrib> nanbudh: you typed 'gtypist'?
[05:17] <tvrg> nanbudh: i meant gtypist
[05:17] <autumnx> security question: how secure is the ubuntu LAMP server stack
[05:17] <autumnx> ?
[05:17] <nanbudh> ok ill try again
[05:17] <DigeratiH> if I want to move a program launching icon to the appliactions menu, where is that
[05:17] <tvrg> autumnx: as secure as you configure it
[05:17] <XsteelWolf> How do i install new bug fixes that are already release? apt-get upgrade?
[05:17] <nanbudh> viola it started :-)
[05:17] <fermatstheore1> Madnez: sorry, what did is say,,
[05:17] <Pici> autumnx: It *is* apache.
[05:18] <jrib> DigeratiH: right click on the ubuntu icon, edit menu
[05:18] <KurtKraut> autumnx: is as safe as any combination of recent versions of Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP.
[05:18] <autumnx> you mean if i install it using apt get i still need to configure it?
[05:18] <applejuize_> hi guys
[05:18] <Madnez> hmm
[05:18] <tvrg> autumnx: if you want it to do something useful: probably
[05:18] <fermatstheore1> ubuntu has entered #ubuntu...the universe is going to implode and go poof in a whiff of smoke
[05:18] <XsteelWolf> How do i install new bug fixes that are already release? apt-get upgrade?
[05:18] <Madnez> not sure where is damn log file
[05:18] <rocunreal> How do i Turn off Tripple Buffering on my Video Card?
[05:19] <Madnez> anyway what about the video error?
[05:19] <Crozar> can any1 help me :)
[05:19] <nanbudh> so gtypist is working but no punjabi.;_(
[05:19] <tvrg> Madnez: not sure what app you are running
[05:19] <autumnx> i am setting up a server for my website
[05:19] <autumnx> and a small forum community
[05:19] <nanbudh> is this app unicode based?
[05:19] <applejuize_> I uncommented the #debug=@echo in my /etc/init.d/rc
[05:19] <fermatstheore1> Crozar: pray state your problem ... pulls out a pipe
[05:19] <applejuize_> restarted the computer
[05:20] <Crozar> what do u mean pray st ate?
[05:20] <XsteelWolf> How do i install new bug fixes that are already release? apt-get upgrade?
[05:20] <autumnx> thanks for the info
[05:20] <KurtKraut> autumnx: it will require a few configs. But you are concerned about security, it should be better if you could review all .conf files and tune the settings to your purposes.
[05:20] <tvrg> nanbudh: http://www.gnu.org/software/gtypist/#lessons you might be able to add a new lesson
[05:20] <applejuize_> and now I'm stuck in a black screen with a trace of what is started but I'm able to go out of it
[05:20] <fermatstheore1> Crozar: elementary crozar..elementary..if you get the drift
[05:20] <tvrg> nanbudh: not sure
[05:20] <Crozar> huh?
[05:20] <Madnez> im running vultures eye, nethack mod
[05:20] <Crozar> the drift is i can drift my way through windows
[05:20] <Madnez> has graphics and iso view
[05:21] <XsteelWolf> How do i install new bug fixes that are already release on launchpad? apt-get upgrade?
[05:21] <Crozar> but here with ubuntu linux , its just another understanding
[05:21] <applejuize_> anybody know how to fix /etc/init.d/rc
[05:21] <fermatstheore1> Crozar: not much of a literature reader are you...
[05:21] <KurtKraut> autumnx: I'd rather use lighttpd instead Apache. It is lighter, faster and easier to set up.
[05:21] <Madnez> upgrade from falcon...
[05:21] <Crozar> no im more into religion
[05:21] <Pici> Crozar: Just ask your question ;)
[05:21] <fermatstheore1> Pici: haha... sorry this is fun
[05:21] <iluvatar> hi, i was wondering if there's a hardware compatibility list / database for ubuntu?
[05:21] <Pici> !hcl | iluvatar
[05:21] <tvrg> brb
[05:21] <ubotu> iluvatar: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:21] <Crozar> my question is avery long answer i think i will feel bad if its with freecost to have this kind of answer
[05:21] <Lhademmo1> !rhytmbox
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rhytmbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <Lhademmo1> !rhythmbox
[05:22] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:22] <XsteelWolf> How do i install new bug fixes that are already release on launchpad? apt-get upgrade??????
[05:22] <Madnez> hmm seems there could be a way to solve the problem
[05:22] <applejuize_> I'm desperate .... anybody can help with /etc/init.d/rc ?
[05:22] <Madnez> will try it out
[05:22] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: You'll have to manually download the .deb from the launchpad. Or wait it to be release thru repositories.
[05:22] <iluvatar> thanks, i'll take a look
[05:23] <XsteelWolf> what do i do if it's release thru repositories?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:23] <fermatstheore1> iluvatar: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/pub/
[05:23] <tvrg> b
[05:24] <Pici> XsteelWolf: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade -- Sometimes things marked as 'fix-released' may not be available for your version of Ubuntu.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  or use the Little Update notificatoon tool.
[05:24] <XsteelWolf> with the && ?
[05:24] <tranceone> is there any fix for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/105649 ? i'm in desperate need of a fix
[05:24] <ryugi> hello
[05:24] <[nrx] > XsteelWolf: Adept
[05:24] <XsteelWolf> adept?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  or put them on 2 lines.. the sequence is 'update' the apt listings, THEN upgrade what it says needs upgraded.. its rather straight forward
[05:24] <[nrx] > !adept
[05:24] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:24] <ryugi> what is the package name that contain the C header files and directories ?
[05:25] <bullgard4> During every cold start Ubuntu performs a 'sanitize start'. What is the purpose of this 'sanitize start'?
[05:25] <Crozar> ok here it goes , in windows ( managing , updating , and configureing and tweaking drivers and theyr set of rules is just by using ur mouse ) with linux how can u ? in system options we are limited with what its said but no more advanced options for whats important like example ( to know the drivers of card & to get them from the net ) , *( to change or use dual monitors ) ( to understand what terminal and how to use it with control to under
[05:25] <Crozar> satnd the files but not to spread themaround system idle with no treason.
[05:25] <XsteelWolf> does it work on ubuntu?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> adept, synaptic, and apt-get all use the same underlaying system.
[05:25] <applejuize_> is it possible that uncommenting #debug=@echo has screwed my ubuntu?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  ubuntu uses synaptic by default. adept is on kubuntu.
[05:25] <applejuize_> the file is /etc/init.d/rc
[05:25] <XsteelWolf> what;s the exact command?
[05:25] <whileimhere> Hi is there a site that has the new F-Spot 4.0 as a deb file?
[05:26] <XsteelWolf> just sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[05:26] <applejuize_> I'm using ubuntu 7.04
[05:26] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:26] <marlun> Does gnome/ubuntu has a good program for backing up my sms from my mobile phone? I found xgsm, does it support new phones?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> XsteelWolf,  or use the gui tools.
[05:26] <XsteelWolf> oh ok
[05:26] <XsteelWolf> thanks
[05:26] <XsteelWolf> i understand now
[05:26] <KurtKraut> whileimhere: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=F-Spot
[05:26] <Dr_willis> there should be a little notification icon for updates. :)
[05:26] <ryugi> what is the package name that contain the C header files and directories ?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> build-essential perhaps?
[05:27] <whileimhere> Thanks!
[05:27] <applejuize_> I'm trying the recovery mode but I cannot get into terminal
[05:27] <hidden> join #anime-pirates
[05:27] <ryugi> thanks dr_willis
[05:28] <fermatstheore1> KurtKraut: in the link, shouldnt that be 'G' before the link :-p
[05:28] <applejuize_> I get a trace of all scripts started example /etc/rcS.d/S90console-screen.sh start
[05:28] <fermatstheore1> KurtKraut: bfore 'spot'
[05:28] <applejuize_> blinking cursor but I cannot write anything
[05:28] <KurtKraut> fermatstheore1: I garantee you it is a F :P
[05:29] <r_rehashed> hi all
[05:29] <tvrg> hi
[05:29] <fermatstheore1> KurtKraut: no wonder ..linux is for nerds
[05:29] <SpeakerMania> Hey, how can I set my network preferences so my computer can be viewed on my network?
[05:29] <tiekyl> hello
[05:29] <winbond> i have a pc with 4gigs of ram, and i want to test it, but the memory test thats on the install cd does not start, it hangs on black screen with the white underscore, what could be the cause?
[05:29] <applejuize_> what I did was just uncommenting #debug = @echo in the file /etc/init.d/rc
[05:29] <tvrg> SpeakerMania: please elaborate :)
[05:29] <r_rehashed> AMD's decision to give out the specs. for the GPUs is awesome :D
[05:29] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: viewed - on network neighborhood of rother computers
[05:29] <applejuize_> please help if you can
[05:29] <applejuize_> I'm totally stuck with a black screen
[05:29] <KurtKraut> fermatstheore1: at least there is no sort of A spot packaged in a deb file :P
[05:30] <poningru> winbond: use memtest
[05:30] <fermatstheore1> KurtKraut: lol
[05:30] <poningru> use more options and just type memtest after deleting everything else
[05:30] <SpeakerMania> tvrg, fermatstheore1: Yes, that is exactly what I want to do.
[05:30] <winbond> poningru, thats memtest on the cd
[05:30] <applejuize_> is there any keyboard shortcut that will exit this debug trace mode?
[05:30] <tvrg> q
[05:31] <r_rehashed> i have an intel GMA x3000. and want to buy a better GPU. should i go for AMD?
[05:31] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: you can create windows shared folders using samba
[05:31] <r_rehashed> should i wait till the drivers are built?
[05:31] <Pici> r_rehashed: ##hardware
[05:31] <SpeakerMania> r_rehashed: Yes.
[05:31] <tvrg> r_rehashed: probably better wayt
[05:31] <r_rehashed> oh right. sry guys
[05:31] <jo_> hello community
[05:31] <tvrg> r_rehashed: the specs are out, but the drivers aren't yet
[05:31] <nanonyme> heh, intel drivers are getting better all the time too though
[05:31] <SpeakerMania> fermatstheore1: Isn't there a setting somewhere that allows this computer to be viewed on other computers on my network?
[05:31] <winbond> !crashme
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crashme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Crozar> im on intel laptop toshiba 1955 satelite
[05:32] <Crozar> help me start my LCD screen
[05:32] <Crozar> imusing CRT
[05:32] <jo_> how can i install two different graphic-cards BOTH with opengl?
[05:32] <Crozar> with live cd my lcd works but when install ubuntu after reboot my lcd just stays black
[05:33] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: unfortunately, windows doesn't treat linux as well as linux treat windows
[05:33] <tvrg> Crozar: what is your video card model?
[05:33] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: the trick is to add the machine to an active directory domain
[05:33] <larson9999> so many apps, such a little brain to keep up with them
[05:33] <Lhademmo1> Anyone who knows why Rhythmbox 0.11.2 is not present in the repos?
[05:33] <Crozar> geforce4 440go
[05:33] <SpeakerMania> fermatstheore1: Ah. How would I do that?
[05:33] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Authenticating-Linux-Active-Directory.html this is for suse, hope you can get some more stuff from here
[05:33] <Crozar> but when i put live cd to start ubuntu with cd my laptop screen works
[05:33] <SpeakerMania> fermatstheore1: Thank you for your help!
[05:33] <tvrg> Crozar: check your xorg.conf that it's using the nv or nvidia driver, try with nv first
[05:34] <Crozar> its just when i install it then remove cd it doesnt work
[05:34] <tvrg> Crozar: then use envy to install the latest nvidia driver
[05:34] <r_rehashed> Compiz Fusion will come with Gutsy?
[05:34] <Crozar> how what do i type in terminal plz tvrg
[05:34] <tvrg> r_rehashed: yes, i'm using it atm
[05:34] <larson9999> amd opening up specs?  finally caved in?
[05:34] <fermatstheore1> SpeakerMania: try googling "linux machine active directory"
[05:34] <tvrg> sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:34] <Pici> !ldap
[05:34] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[05:34] <r_rehashed> tvrg: did u build it from source?
[05:34] <tvrg> Crozar: look for nv or nvidia
[05:34] <applejuize_> I'm trying the live cd ... I hope it will let me access the hard drive and uncomment back the changes
[05:34] <tvrg> r_rehashed: no it's default in my gutsy
[05:34] <benzin> hi has anybody installed a qpspmanager?
[05:34] <tvrg> working fine
[05:35] <Crozar> nv or nvidia?
[05:35] <SpeakerMania> fermatstheore1: Will do,t hank you!
[05:35] <tvrg> r_rehashed: i must say i'm on an old intel chipset
[05:35] <Skyfalcon866> will shipit send gusty gibbon discs
[05:35] <r_rehashed> tvrg: ah.. ok. default? wow. metacity isn't default?
[05:35] <Pici> r_rehashed: Compiz fusion will be default in Gutsy provided that no major bugs appear before release.
[05:35] <tvrg> Crozar: i would try booting with nv to see if that one works
[05:35] <r_rehashed> hmm ok
[05:35] <Ant1jr> I need help with beryl
[05:35] <Crozar> how ? ?
[05:35] <tvrg> r_rehashed: it's controlled by a checkbox "enable effects", which switches metacity /emerald
[05:36] <Locuaz> hello .. .can somebody help me?
[05:36] <Locuaz> (11:35:13) locuaz: if there is some windows emulator i love ubuntu but i need some programs. like 3dsmax or vectorworks.. working in ubuntu... please some body cantell if thereis some emulator windows.
[05:36] <Crozar> in synptocs package?
[05:36] <fermatstheore1> all this good karma ...cant the dude upstairs find me a geek gal...
[05:36] <Pici> !wine | Locuaz
[05:36] <Ant1jr> Can someone help me with beryl plz
[05:36] <ubotu> Locuaz: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:36] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[05:36] <tvrg> Crozar: what's in the xorg.conf file? nv or nvidia?
[05:36] <jo_> how can i install two different graphic-cards (intel915 and nvidia6600) BOTH with opengl?
[05:36] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: whta is the problem
[05:36] <Locuaz> wine okk
[05:36] <lnx_> how i can compile pidgin from source to ,deb ?
[05:36] <Ant1jr> when I set it to bery in the settings manager it just resets back to default
[05:36] <irish_jnr> hi
[05:36] <KurtKraut> lnx_: the latests pidgin is already packaged in www.getdeb.net
[05:36] <Locuaz> but does this winw really work.. because i cant lost more time
[05:37] <Crozar> it doesnt say nv or nvidia?
[05:37] <jo_> inx
[05:37] <lnx_> KurtKraut i need 2.2  there is only 2.1.1
[05:37] <r_rehashed> tvrg: which is your GPU?
[05:37] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: did you check the procedure on how to start beryl automatically? google it , itis quite easy
[05:37] <winbond> !raid
[05:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:37] <irish_jnr> i've used ndiswrapper to get my broadcom 4306 wireless card to work. im trying to use kismet, but i dont know what to put in the sources line..any ideas?
[05:37] <Ant1jr> i just installed beryl from the synaptic
[05:37] <tvrg> Crozar: look for "Section device" and then the driver setting
[05:37] <Locuaz> rais?
[05:37] <Locuaz> whats raid
[05:38] <Crozar> Section "Files"
[05:38] <Crozar>         Fontpath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
[05:38] <Crozar>         Fontpath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
[05:38] <tvrg> r_rehashed: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[05:38] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[05:38] <Ant1jr> I cant even start beryl manually dude
[05:38] <r_rehashed> tvrg: hmm that's a bit old yes. can u run emerald too?
[05:38] <Fluffy-Wuffy> how do i get Firestarter onto the Sessions list so it starts on startup?
[05:38] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: type beryl in command line and find out the ouput
[05:38] <tvrg> r_rehashed: yep
[05:38] <qwertman> Hey, what are the advantages and disadvantages of using Xubuntu over Ubuntu?
[05:38] <Crozar> Section "Screen"
[05:38] <Crozar>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[05:38] <Crozar>         Device          "nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] "
[05:38] <Crozar>         Monitor         "105E"
[05:38] <Crozar>         Defaultdepth    24
[05:38] <Crozar>         SubSection "Display"
[05:38] <Pici> !paste | Crozar
[05:38] <ubotu> Crozar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <r_rehashed> tvrg: i can't enable emerald on my 946
[05:38] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: eitehr your card is not supported or you need to modify xorg.conf
[05:39] <Ant1jr> Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA
[05:39] <Ant1jr> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[05:39] <Ant1jr> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[05:39] <Ant1jr> No composite extension
[05:39] <Ant1jr> ok
[05:39] <ompaul> !paste
[05:39] <computerNERDdie> Fluffy-Wuffy  I have the same question. :)
[05:39] <r_rehashed> tvrg: heck i thought the card wasn't powerful enough!
[05:39] <tvrg> r_rehashed: if i'm pushing it with dvd and whatever it might skip a bit, but otherwise it runs ok
[05:39] <KurtKraut> Fluffy-Wuffy: the firestart settings are enabled at startup by default even if its icon is not viewable in tray
[05:39] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: ok.
[05:39] <Crozar> how to paste bin?
[05:39] <Ant1jr> so what do I do
[05:39] <winbond> Locuaz, raid is combining multiple hard drives as one
[05:39] <ompaul> see the topic for pastebin
[05:39] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: you need to add section in your xorg.conf
[05:39] <Ant1jr> what
[05:39] <Ant1jr> how
[05:39] <SpeakerMania> How can I set my screen resolution to 1028x768 (or whatever it is)? This resolution isn't listed.
[05:39] <tvrg> r_rehashed: i've read there are problems with the newer cards, dunno for sure
[05:39] <r_rehashed> tvrg: same here
[05:39] <Crozar> sorry guys
[05:39] <fermatstheore1> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:40] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: it opens a conif file
[05:40] <Fluffy-Wuffy> next time i start ill have to run a Shields Up test then
[05:40] <stefg> !fixres | SpeakerMania
[05:40] <ubotu> SpeakerMania: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:40] <tvrg> Crozar: try running dpkg-reconfigure from the command line
[05:40] <r_rehashed> tvrg: yeah. hope Xorg 7.3 solves my problems
[05:40] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: add these lines to it
[05:40] <Ant1jr> ok its open what do i put in it now
[05:40] <Ant1jr> ok
[05:40] <tvrg> r_rehashed: but i'm running it on gutsy
[05:40] <Skyfalcon866> will shipit send gusty gibbon discs
[05:40] <moonknight> I'm a noob to ubuntu, has anyone managed to get sound working on feisty fawn I have a ATI intergrated card
[05:40] <stefg> !gutsy
[05:40] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <Pici> Skyfalcon866: When its out. Yes.
[05:40] <fermatstheore1> Section "Extensions"
[05:40] <fermatstheore1> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[05:40] <fermatstheore1> EndSection
[05:40] <Locuaz> about wine-- does this program really work??? please with every program of windows i need???
[05:40] <stefg> !gutsy
[05:40] <tvrg> Crozar: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from the command line, accept the defaults when in doubt and select nv when it comes to graphics driver
[05:40] <tvrg> Crozar: might be easier
[05:41] <KurtKraut> moonknight: my card works out of the box.
[05:41] <faileas> Locuaz: not all. many
[05:41] <fermatstheore1> moonknight: did you check if the card  is supported by linux/
[05:41] <r_rehashed> i don't want SipIt to waste money on free discs. come on guys they'll go into loses
[05:41] <Rick__> hi..how do i make grub detect my windows installation? i did a update-grub but, it still did not list in the menu.1st file
[05:41] <Locuaz> flash?
[05:41] <Locuaz> 3dsmax?
[05:41] <astro76> Locuaz, look for yourself http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:41] <Pici> Locuaz: You should check out http://appdb.winehq.org for a compatability list.
[05:41] <Ant1jr> ok I added the lines
[05:41] <Ant1jr> and saved
[05:41] <moonknight> alsa says its snd-atiixp and that should wor
[05:41] <Ant1jr> but it still happens
[05:41] <faileas> r_rehashed: its a pretty big factor for a lot of people switching
[05:41] <Locuaz> ok
[05:41] <tvrg> r_rehashed: here in belgium we got something set up that a few ppl get loads of cd's sent, and then some volunteers go pick them up there
[05:41] <Pici> Locuaz: They also have a support channel at #winehq
[05:41] <wilhart> anyone with kde4?
[05:41] <Pici> !enter
[05:42] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:42] <Fluffy-Wuffy> if you install Windows before Ubuntu it should recognize it itself Rick_
[05:42] <skyline> hi
[05:42] <Locuaz> i go there
[05:42] <wilhart> feisty
[05:42] <fermatstheore1> you have to restart your X server. logout and log back in
[05:42] <Locuaz> #winehq
[05:42] <skyline> gusty gibon
[05:42] <Ant1jr> ok
[05:42] <Ant1jr> brb then
[05:42] <Pici> !gusty | skyline
[05:42] <r_rehashed> hmmm
[05:42] <ubotu> skyline: It is spelt !guTSy :)
[05:42] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: and try to start beryl
[05:42] <skyline> bye
[05:42] <tvrg> r_rehashed: we have something set up that is called a "support point network" where newb's can come ask us for cd's or irl support, and a few uber support points that get hundreds of cd's at once
[05:42] <moonknight> tried rebuilding the kernel but it always comes up with errors
[05:42] <Rick__> Fluffy-Wuffy,  i installed win before ubuntu but it did not detect
[05:43] <fermatstheore1> skyline: gutsy gibbon, horny horse, idiotic iguana
[05:43] <winbond> what does "Got signal 11 segmentation violation" mean?
[05:43] <Rick__> Fluffy-Wuffy,  i used the alternate install
[05:43] <tvrg> r_rehashed: then we get our cd's from the uber points
[05:43] <r_rehashed> tvrg: that's cool
[05:43] <Fluffy-Wuffy> I wouldnt know then Rick_
[05:43] <Ant1jr> hello
[05:43] <attackdecay> hey there
[05:43] <Ant1jr> I relogged
[05:43] <KurtKraut> 'Language Is Viru uuuhhhh', Laurie Anderson rocks...
[05:43] <Rick__> anyway to manually set it
[05:43] <Ant1jr> But now
[05:43] <tvrg> r_rehashed: http://map.ubuntu-be.org/
[05:43] <Ant1jr> when I click beryl
[05:43] <Crozar> tvrg i msged u
[05:43] <Ant1jr> nothing, I mean nothing happens
[05:43] <tvrg> Crozar: didn't get anything?
[05:44] <Ant1jr> used to eb the screen would fash
[05:44] <Ant1jr> now nothing
[05:44] <BleedingMoon> HELP?
[05:44] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: are the windows now wobbly?
[05:44] <Ant1jr> nothing at all
[05:44] <attackdecay> quick question for anyone, whats the difference, when following some instructions online for console, in a "#" and a "$"
[05:44] <Crozar> i pm u
[05:44] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: when you move them
[05:44] <Ant1jr> no
[05:44] <gordonjcp> how do I find what package provides a given file?
[05:44] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[05:44] <Ant1jr> their ot
[05:44] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: tpe it in terminal
[05:44] <Ant1jr> and I see not the ruby in the corner
[05:44] <Ant1jr> type what
[05:44] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr:ruby in corner =beryl-manager
[05:44] <BleedingMoon> HELP??
[05:44] <r_rehashed> tvrg: that is _Awesome_
[05:44] <jo_> how can i install two different graphic-cards (intel915 and nvidia6600) BOTH with opengl?
[05:44] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: type beryl-manager in terminal
[05:44] <jo_> anyone?
[05:44] <Crozar> oh i cant pm
[05:44] <Crozar> :/
[05:45] <Ant1jr> I did that
[05:45] <gordonjcp> !ask | BleedingMoon
[05:45] <fermatstheore1> BleedingMoon: pray state your problem .*pulls out a pipe*
[05:45] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:45] <Ant1jr> menu popped up
[05:45] <Ant1jr> Still no ruby
[05:45] <tvrg> r_rehashed: don't know where you're from, but it's a great system, and apparently canonical is very responsive
[05:45] <r_rehashed> we should do something like this here in Mumbai, India
[05:45] <BleedingMoon> gordonjcp: i need to install the flash player and i already extract it into my desktop
[05:45] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: you probably have removed the menu sectino from the panel,
[05:45] <attackdecay> anyway, i'm just trying to make sure i'm compiling source code correctly
[05:45] <tvrg> r_rehashed: they get much more cd's without the regular shipit limits etc
[05:45] <BleedingMoon> what next?
[05:46] <gordonjcp> !flash | bleedingmoon
[05:46] <ubotu> bleedingmoon: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:46] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: did you type beryl in terminal
[05:46] <jo_> haallooo 1165 users, noone with two graphic-boards installed or so?
[05:46] <attackdecay> i ended up with errors, and i want to make sure that i shouldnt have been sudo'ing everything
[05:46] <r_rehashed> hmm.. ok
[05:46] <gordonjcp> BleedingMoon: why didn't you just ask that to begin with?
[05:46] <Ant1jr> Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA
[05:46] <Ant1jr> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[05:46] <Ant1jr> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[05:46] <Ant1jr> No composite extension
[05:46] <tvrg> jo_ if i knew how to solve it i would have said so :)
[05:46] <fermatstheore1> jo_: we are poor geeks, we earn karma by helping olks here
[05:46] <applejuize_> fixed!!!!!
[05:46] <Crozar> ok http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37603/plain/   tvrg
[05:46] <Ant1jr> i use 8800 gts if that means anything
[05:46] <attackdecay> my biggest worry is that i'll compile things with incorrect permissions, so i'm trying to figure out if # and $ are indicators of things that should be done as su
[05:46] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: dude... you did not save it, didyou?
[05:46] <Ant1jr> I saved it
[05:47] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: you did not save the xorg.conf file
[05:47] <jo_> tvrg: io io io, i know man, just asking
[05:47] <applejuize_> live cd allowed me to edit the file back to what it was before!!!
[05:47] <Ant1jr> but lemme check if its still there
[05:47] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: oen it again and check
[05:47] <Ant1jr> how do i open agen
[05:47] <doug__> what is $shtdwn$.req
[05:47] <tvrg> Crozar: change the nvidia in nv and try again
[05:47] <Crozar> how is that?
[05:47] <fermatstheore1> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:47] <jo_> fermatstheore1: i appriciate your help, no question about that
[05:47] <applejuize_> yahooooo!!! :D
[05:47] <Crozar> by using mouse or using terminal :S
[05:47] <Ant1jr> Section "Extensions"
[05:47] <Ant1jr> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[05:47] <Ant1jr> EndSection
[05:47] <tvrg> jo_ you missed my smiley :)
[05:47] <Ant1jr> its there
[05:47] <jo_> tvrg: i forgot to ad one :)
[05:47] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: right at the end of the file?
[05:48] <Ant1jr> o i just put it in the middle btween the others
[05:48] <applejuize_> how to remove vmware from the start-up services
[05:48] <applejuize_> ??
[05:48] <doug__> what type of file and what does $shtdwn$.req   do and what is it for
[05:48] <Ant1jr> i need to put it at the end?
[05:48] <Crozar> oh plzz :(
[05:48] <Pici> doug__: Where are you seeing this file?
[05:48] <r_rehashed> ok guys c ya
[05:48] <BleedingMoon> gordonjcp: Enable the Multiverse repository if you have not yet done so. how i do it?
[05:48] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: yup
[05:48] <moonknight> do you think that the soundcard issue could be to a buggy install, 7.04 i386 desktop, should I try the alternate iso via wubi and try that?
[05:48] <gordonjcp> BleedingMoon: did you read the page?
[05:48] <doug__> pici its in a folder named 2a206fb911469231b11f1f
[05:48] <BleedingMoon> its not clear
[05:48] <tvrg> Crozar: just type sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf change nvidia to nv and reboot
[05:48] <Ant1jr> brb
[05:48] <gordonjcp> BleedingMoon: you could ask the bot
[05:48] <tvrg> Crozar: using terminal
[05:48] <gordonjcp> !multiverse | BleedingMoon
[05:49] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:49] <BleedingMoon> thx
[05:49] <Pici> doug__: Where is that folder?
[05:49] <Crozar> what will happen?
[05:49] <syock> How do I add a custom model for my monitor? I have specs for my monitor, but I don't know how to configure the xorg.conf for that
[05:49] <doug__> pici whn i do system scan it shows up under my recycled
[05:49] <Crozar> if i was jammed with black screen ? i must come back with my live cd thats the only hope
[05:49] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[05:49] <Pici> doug__: On Ubuntu?
[05:49] <KurtKraut> moonknight: you can do an experiment... burn a livecd of Gutsy, the Ubuntu's next release that still alpha too boot up and check if it supports your card, if it is a too recent released soundcard.
[05:49] <Locuaz> hello, is there a way to use windows in ubuntu
[05:49] <Ant1jr> still dont work
[05:49] <lnx_> how i can compile pidgin from source to ,deb ?
[05:49] <doug__> pici yes
[05:49] <tvrg> Crozar: press ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal
[05:50] <syock> Even after configuring xorg.conf, I found that the system automatically rewrites the settings with ones that are not compatible with my monitor
[05:50] <tvrg> Crozar: when looking at the black screen
[05:50] <Pici> doug__: What type of system scan are you doing?
[05:50] <Ant1jr> Detected xserver                                : NVIDIA
[05:50] <Ant1jr> Checking Display :0.0 ...
[05:50] <Ant1jr> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[05:50] <Ant1jr> No composite extension
[05:50] <Ant1jr> still
[05:50] <Myrtti> !paste | Ant1jr
[05:50] <ubotu> Ant1jr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <moonknight> i tried the gutsy live cd it throws a fit and comes up saying region not supported
[05:50] <Ant1jr> ok sry
[05:50] <stefg> !fixres | syock
[05:50] <ubotu> syock: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:50] <Locuaz> hello, is there a way to use windows in ubuntu
[05:50] <doug__> pici just scaning my hd to see how much space i have in each folder pici i go to apps>acces>and diskusage
[05:50] <Rick__> hey all, attached is my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37604  kindly assist to advise how to get grub to boot to my win partition
[05:51] <Ant1jr> help
[05:51] <stefg> !virtualizers | Locuaz
[05:51] <syock> thx, stefg
[05:51] <ubotu> Locuaz: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:51] <tvrg> Locuaz: google for virtualbox
[05:51] <Ant1jr> beryl still doesnt work
[05:51] <Pici> doug__: If its in the trash, its probably some temp file that should be deleted.
[05:51] <Locuaz> !virtualizers
[05:51] <doug__> pici its not in the trash
[05:51] <doug__> pici should i delete it?
[05:51] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: check out my xorg config http://pastebin.com/m47667b9
[05:51] <doug__> pici i am also dual booting with xp
[05:51] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: may be it can help you
[05:51] <Pici> doug__: You said it was in the recycle bin? didnt you?
[05:52] <Locuaz> !virtualbox
[05:52] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[05:52] <Pici> doug__: Or did you mean its in the recycle bin on your windows parition?
[05:52] <doug__> pici no i said whn i do system scan it shows up under the recycle
[05:52] <joaldy> en espaol, hay alguien
[05:52] <Ant1jr> one more time how do I edit my xorg lol
[05:52] <jo_> tvrg: what is the best windows-layer to run havy applications for foto and stuff?
[05:52] <[nrx] > !es
[05:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:52] <Ant1jr> how to edit xorg agen
[05:52] <doug__> pici its under root thn lost+found thn recycled thn that folder
[05:52] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: dude...
[05:52] <Locuaz> #ubuntu-es
[05:52] <tvrg> jo_ i'm pretty fond of fluxbox, but it's a bit weird to get used to :)
[05:52] <Ant1jr> i no
[05:52] <Ant1jr> lol
[05:53] <Locuaz> who do i go to channel from here?
[05:53] <fermatstheore1> tvrg: you can count another fluxbox fan
[05:53] <titun> i have asked this few times before, but could not find a solution, unfortunately my laptop's touchpad hangs in feisty on cold boot, what can i do?
[05:53] <applejuize_> how do I remove a service from the startup list
[05:53] <applejuize_> ?
[05:53] <jo_> tvrg: is fluxbox fast enough for running photoshop?
[05:53] <tvrg> jo_: euh, photoshop doesn't run on linux :)
[05:53] <Fluffy-Wuffy> how come when i try to run ipblock & i enter my password the loading icon appears yet the program doesnt?
[05:53] <Pici> doug__: Don't worry about it. lost+found is for file fragements that get picked up by the filesystem checker.  It is safe to delete it.
[05:53] <doug__> titun u can go into the boot log and turn it off so it wont load when u boot up
[05:54] <jo_> tvrg: ooooooohhhh
[05:54] <Ant1jr> plz how do I edit my xorg
[05:54] <doug__> Pici,  ok thanks
[05:54] <tvrg> Ant1jr: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <fermatstheore1> Ant1jr: scroll up for the prev post
[05:54] <jo_> tvrg: i thought so, but u never know...
[05:54] <BleedingMoon> k i still got problems with the mulitverse
[05:54] <titun> doug__,how will that help then
[05:54] <tvrg> jo_: try the gimp
[05:54] <KurtKraut> moonknight: It does not makes sense to me but gutsy is not expected to work always.
[05:54] <tvrg> !gimp | jo_
[05:54] <ubotu> jo_: gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:55] <doug__> titun it will not load your touchmouse so u can not use it
[05:55] <Crozar> tvrg
[05:55] <tvrg> yes:)
[05:55] <BleedingMoon> HELP: i need to enable the multiverse and the article that the bot gave to me is useless
[05:55] <Crozar> i perss control alt f2
[05:55] <Crozar> it went black screen
[05:55] <Crozar> a real black dos terminal
[05:55] <Crozar> how can i get back lo
[05:55] <tvrg> Crozar: no login prompt?
[05:55] <doug__> titun i got mine turned off too in the boot log so it will not load
[05:55] <Crozar> i had to control atl delete
[05:55] <Crozar> theyr is
[05:55] <Ant1jr> how do I save in this xorg editor
[05:55] <faileas> BleedingMoon: edit /etc/apt/soutces.lst
[05:55] <JosefK> Crozar, alt+f7
[05:55] <Crozar> i did with password then stuck
[05:55] <titun> doug__, and how do i enable it afterwords?
[05:55] <Pici> !enter | Crozar
[05:55] <ubotu> Crozar: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:55] <tvrg> Crozar: press ctrl alt F7
[05:55] <codeane> hi, is it possible to upgrade ubuntu server ubuntu desktop?
[05:55] <BleedingMoon> faileas: what?!
[05:55] <Crozar> LOL
[05:55] <JosefK> tvrg, no need for ctrl+alt in the terminals
[05:55] <Crozar> didnt know
[05:55] <doug__> titun same way u turn it off
[05:55] <Locuaz> !help
[05:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:56] <Crozar> i nearly cried
[05:56] <Crozar> lo
[05:56] <Pici> codeane: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <tvrg> JosefK: right
[05:56] <Ant1jr> how doI gedit xorg.conf
[05:56] <syock> I suppose I should never start that "Screens and Graphics" options no more
[05:56] <Crozar> ok now im more sad
[05:56] <faileas> BleedingMoon: the sources.lst, my bad
[05:56] <Crozar> my screen is flickering
[05:56] <Pici> Crozar: Dont use the enter key as punctuation, it causes unneeded scroll for people.
[05:56] <codeane> pici, thx
[05:56] <Crozar> when it wasnt
[05:56] <Ant1jr> help meeee
[05:56] <titun> doug__, come on ,please elaborate... do i have to use CLI?
[05:56] <KurtKraut> codeane: yes... but in my experience, installing and running the linux-image-generic kernel will be needed;
[05:56] <Locuaz> who do i go to channel from here!! please
[05:56] <tvrg> Ant1jr: i just said sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <BleedingMoon> faileas: it will b gr8 if ull guide me step by step.
[05:56] <Ant1jr> how doI save from that
[05:56] <Locuaz> i forgot how
[05:56] <doug__> pici i looked the file up the folder is in my hd not in my lost + found
[05:56] <tvrg> Ant1jr: no use in us answering if you don't read the answer
[05:56] <Ant1jr> i read it
[05:56] <doug__> titun do /join ##wwed
[05:56] <Crozar> ok =D but now my screen flicks alot i dont know why :/ please tell me what was the command to change nv with nvidia
[05:56] <Ant1jr> I mean how do I save
[05:57] <tvrg> Ant1jr: ctrl X to quit, it 'll prompt to save
[05:57] <Pici> doug__: What is the full path to the file?
[05:57] <tvrg> bbl
[05:57] <Zemus> I have to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper every single time I start x. I know there's a way to make that one of the startup processes, but is there a way to make ndiswrapper the default protocol for wireless activity?
[05:57] <mumbles> ok i am having problmes with wireless and ubuntu
[05:57] <Crozar> tvrg
[05:57] <doug__> pici its in /.filebrowser
[05:57] <codeane> kurtkraut, thx i will keep that in mind
[05:57] <chickenFuego> Hi, I guess this one is a classic: How do I enable desktop effects qui ati Xseries?
[05:57] <SpeakerMania> I'm getting frustrated. I NEED my resolution to be higher than 800x600 because I can't see the buttons to set up Evolution and so on. No higher resolutions are listed.
[05:57] <Zemus> Also, sorry if my terminology is a bit ignorant, I'm quite new to this :P
[05:57] <faileas> BleedingMoon: sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list then delete any ## at the start of any line that has 'universe' in it
[05:57] <chickenFuego> I had to install the fglrx drivers..
[05:57] <mumbles> i have a netgear wg111v2 usb network card - i have the madwifi drivers installed along with the wicd wifi manager
[05:57] <chickenFuego> 3d is ok, but not compiz & co..
[05:58] <Crozar> how to go throught that .conf file what was it again?
[05:58] <cyberphaz> yeah with ati compiz/beryl and opengl games dont mix
[05:58] <pwnd_> Ubuntu recognizes my ethernet card, but does not recognize it as a network card. I have Fa133 netgear card and feisty
[05:58] <Pici> doug__: I woudln't worry about it.  If even I went asking about every file I didnt know about I'd be here for a long time, and I concider myself a very savvy linux user.
[05:58] <mumbles> the manager sees the wifi card and the network - but i cant get it to connect to my wifi
[05:58] <pwnd_> I can't find any information on it
[05:58] <mumbles> anyone got any pointers ?
[05:58] <Crozar> truely im stuck :I(
[05:59] <SpeakerMania> I'm getting frustrated. I NEED my resolution to be higher than 800x600 because I can't see the buttons to set up Evolution and so on. No higher resolutions are listed. How can I change my resolution to something higher than 800x600?
[05:59] <[nrx] > !fixres
[05:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <doug__> Pici,  LOL nice idea hmm wounders na j/k ok thanks Pici
[05:59] <SpeakerMania> [nrx] : I already did that. That just restarts the GUI.
[05:59] <BleedingMoon> faileas: i got amd 64. there is a supported flash version?
[05:59] <[nrx] > did you click on the link?
[05:59] <Crozar> how to change nvidia drivers to nv ?
[05:59] <[nrx] > ..and read the contents?
[05:59] <faileas> BleedingMoon: i don't use 64 bit
[06:00] <SpeakerMania> [nrx] : lol Nope, thanks!
[06:00] <[nrx] > ;)
[06:00] <BleedingMoon> but i use :\ do u know any1 who use 64?
[06:00] <Pici> !flash64 | BleedingMoon
[06:00] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:00] <Crozar> where is tvrg :(
[06:00] <Crozar> any1 can help me please
[06:00] <BleedingMoon> thx pici
[06:01] <Crozar> can any1 plz help me
[06:01] <fermatstheore1> and why did [nrx]  wink
[06:01] <Luger> Hi all, I'm trying to fix my internet connection with using the sudo pppoeconf command but I'm getting an error: Sorry, I scanned 3 interfaces, but Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[06:01] <fermatstheore1> Crozar: wat seems to be the problem
[06:01] <chickenFuego> anyone with ATI graphics card "X***"
[06:01] <BleedingMoon> Pici: u can guide me step by step?
[06:01] <fermatstheore1> Pici the bot lol
[06:01] <Pici> BleedingMoon: I don't think I can, I don't run 64bits.
[06:01] <KurtKraut> Luger: your DSL modem is connected to you computer thru ethernet or USB ?
[06:01] <BleedingMoon> i need this: Enable the Multiverse repository if you have not yet done so.
[06:02] <nanbudh> friends which keyboard do u all use?
[06:02] <Crozar> im using a laptop , when the screen doesnt work thats why i pluged in a crt  , BUT however it worked when i was using livcd then suddenly after install it was black good thing i got a CRT monitor
[06:02] <panosru> please someone help me with sessions... why i can't save my modifycations ??
[06:02] <Luger> KurtKraut Ethernet :)
[06:02] <jo_> tvrg: i use gimp, its ok but not what i need for professional use... i really hope one day there is a nice replacement
[06:02] <BleedingMoon> Pici: i need to enable multiverse. but STEP BY STEP bcuz i found the articles useless.
[06:02] <Pici> BleedingMoon: Oh, that part is easy.  Go to system>administration>software sources and look through the tabs for a muliverse checkbox.
[06:02] <fermatstheore1> nanbudh: the ones we pull out from the nearest LUG trashcans
[06:02] <faileas> BleedingMoon: same thing i said, but delete ## in front of any line with multiverse
[06:02] <panosru> modifications*
[06:02] <pwnd_> Ubuntu recognizes my ethernet card, but does not recognize it as a network card. I have Fa133 netgear card and feisty
[06:02] <[nrx] > Crozar: have you tried the hotkeys on your laptop to switch to the lcd?
[06:02] <nanbudh> he he
[06:02] <Crozar> but now i want to go to uni and showoff with ubuntu :( laptop screen's not workin i hope theyr are options where in windows u can play with dual monitor split or using TV
[06:02] <KurtKraut> Luger: that's quite odd. Ethernet modems should be transparent.
[06:02] <Crozar> ya not working
[06:02] <fermatstheore1> jo_: unless people use the software and send out enhancemetns/bug requests, it iwll neve rimprove
[06:03] <BleedingMoon> faileas:  BleedingMoon: sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list then delete any ## at the start of any line that has 'universe' in it
[06:03] <Crozar> live cd was working through laptop and i tried again it works it looks better in laptop hwoever u know laptop screen's are 60 refresh rate
[06:03] <faileas> jo_: cinepaint is a gimp varient thats used by a lot of movie companies
[06:03] <[nrx] > Crozar: the problem is, the ubuntu install will have gone through with your CRT monitor as default and nothing to do with LCD
[06:03] <KurtKraut> Crozar: if nobody here gave you a solution, try posting a full description of your problem in www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:03] <Crozar> but resoloution is 1024 :/
[06:03] <BleedingMoon> faileas:  so i need just to write: "sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[06:03] <Crozar> i am a user theyr
[06:03] <faileas> BleedingMoon: in console
[06:03] <Crozar> yes i tried to format 3 times tryign ur ways
[06:03] <BleedingMoon> sure
[06:03] <applejuize_> shall I remove the symlink from the rc2.d in order to remove a service from the startup list? is that all?
[06:03] <faileas> then type in yr password
[06:03] <fermatstheore1> Crozar: woah! 1024..you youlings have it easy, back in those days we had 80 column display and we wer thankful for it
[06:03] <lnx_> how i can run debian installer ?
[06:03] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[06:04] <applejuize_> sorry I meant /etc/rc2.d/ directory
[06:04] <Crozar> i tried to remove the wires just a plain laptop trying to install ubuntu live cd was working fine using laptop was happy but after install then remove cd's restart black screen sound is theyr
[06:04] <BleedingMoon> faileas: sudo: gkedit: command not found
[06:04] <jo_> fermatstheore1: u mean i should give some hints, involve etc..? ja, good idea
[06:04] <stefg> applejuize_: ouch.. you should rather use bum or sysv-rc-conf
[06:04] <fermatstheore1> jo_: just tyring to be funny, i know pepole are frustrated etc
[06:04] <Crozar> had to format to work it with crt yes i knew crt will work because i was with winxp when i used the hotkey for CRT i was on crt then wanted to go back to lcd its just a twist of undersatndin glo
[06:05] <DigeratiH> situation: video problems on ubuntu. This computer did fine with an old dell crt attached to it, it would go to sleep after 20 mins, display boot splashes and screensavers. Get it home and attache a HP 17 flat panel and it is ademant about needing 1280x1024@60, so you dont see a splash or screensavers, nor will it go to sleep? While loggedin all things are fine. If i disbale the framebuffer all I get is text before login, and still no sleep/no screens
[06:05] <DigeratiH> avers. All other framebuffer edits yield nothing but the monitor displaying out of sync messages till the login screen. Any ideas?
[06:05] <faileas> BleedingMoon: try replacing gkedit with nano or kate or any text editor
[06:05] <jo_> faileas: cinepaint is famous indeed, is not bad at all
[06:05] <BleedingMoon> im n00b in linux
[06:05] <BleedingMoon> so i dont understand u
[06:05] <BleedingMoon> :|
[06:05] <Pici> BleedingMoon: its `gksudo gedit`
[06:05] <Luger> I got 2 computers here .. they both used to run Windows XP but since I have Ubuntu on 1 of the computers I can't use internet on it .. I still CAN use internet on my XP pc which I'm using now
[06:05] <faileas> ... my bad ;p
[06:05] <applejuize_> stefg: ouch  ... I 've already done a rm !
[06:05] <jo_> fermatstheore1: i am more frustrated to have to use windows still...
[06:05] <KurtKraut> jo_: this is very frustrating.
[06:05] <Downix> Luger:  how come you can't use internet?
[06:06] <Crozar> no nvidia settings where i can use TV or split screen or dual mointors ? why we dont have any simple interface ?
[06:06] <kaarel> I have a wierd question for you: how do I uninstall Ubuntu from my computer?
[06:06] <BleedingMoon> faileas: what to do now?
[06:06] <applejuize_> stefg: hope I didn't screw up!
[06:06] <parmomike> anyone still here from before when i mentioned my freezing problem??
[06:06] <faileas> BleedingMoon: got the /etc/sources.list open?
[06:06] <KurtKraut> Luger: how internet is shared between this 2 PCs ?
[06:06] <fermatstheore1> jo_: i understand, thats why we are here to help each other.
[06:06] <jo_> fermatstheore1: i am even thinking of bying a mac just to avoid all that grey shit and be more close to unix, god, i must sound pathethic
[06:06] <BleedingMoon> faileas: indid.
[06:06] <faileas> *.etc/apt/sources.lst
[06:06] <Crozar> ubuntu must be stronger as mac because this i will pay rather then windows , but its lack of resourses in simple interfaces for users to lagoon around
[06:06] <Luger> I have a modem with a router and I just can't use firefox or any other programs which requires an internet connection
[06:06] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[06:06] <KurtKraut> !ohmy | jo_
[06:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:07] <ubotu> jo_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:07] <stefg> applejuize_: no, i don't think so, but it's too late to ask questions anyway... you're one of the 'shoot now, ask later' guys, huh?
[06:07] <faileas> BleedingMoon: look for any line stating with ## and with the words "multiverse" on it. then delete the ##
[06:07] <kaarel> I have a wierd question for you: how do I uninstall Ubuntu from my computer?
[06:07] <House> Hi all! Got a gconf problem... cant configure themes - desktop looks a bit messed up... can I reset gconf?
[06:07] <Crozar> any1 can help me change my drivers from nvidia to nv
[06:07] <jo_> !botsnack
[06:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:07] <KurtKraut> kaarel: just delete its partitions.
[06:07] <Crozar> what was the command somehting .conf in the terminal
[06:07] <faileas> kaarel: what os do you want to replace it with?
[06:07] <kaarel> ok.....
[06:07] <House> !gconf
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <DigeratiH> Crozar sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:07] <Luger> This is a screenshot how my connections look like: http://i2.tinypic.com/4tsqvyo.png
[06:07] <BleedingMoon> faileas: ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
[06:08] <stefg> applejuize_: and just chmod -x ususally hurts less than rm
[06:08] <BleedingMoon> ??
[06:08] <jo_> !botsnack | KurtKraut
[06:08] <ubotu> KurtKraut: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:08] <parmomike> where's the bext place to nail down the cause of a freezing problem - ive just ran a memtest and everythings fine
[06:08] <Pici> !gksudo | DigeratiH
[06:08] <ubotu> DigeratiH: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[06:08] <faileas> BleedingMoon: once thats done, save and exit
[06:08] <fermatstheore1> jo_: fermat->proud owner of a shiny macbook pro :-p
[06:08] <kaarel> Windows XP....it aint installing on its own....
[06:08] <faileas> BleedingMoon: ignore that ;p
[06:08] <Crozar> how to change nvidia to nv which one?
[06:08] <faileas> BleedingMoon: other lines
[06:08] <KurtKraut> Luger: there is probably something missing. Can you ping one computer to another ?
[06:08] <jo_> fermatstheore1: cool: ever heard of the osx x86 project??
[06:08] <BleedingMoon> faileas:  # deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:08] <BleedingMoon> # deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:08] <Crozar> Section "Monitor"
[06:09] <Crozar> 	Identifier	"105E"
[06:09] <Crozar> 	Option		"DPMS"
[06:09] <applejuize_> stefg: this forum is quite busy and I didn't trust someone noticing me :-/
[06:09] <faileas> BleedingMoon: yeah those
[06:09] <Crozar> i want to use laptop lcd not a monitor
[06:09] <tiekyl> Is there a way to change the color of the menu-text without using gnome-color-chooser?
[06:09] <Crozar> :(
[06:09] <lnx_> i have no "install" menu when i click on deb file what i can do ?
[06:09] <Locuaz> virtualbox-. please somebpoy can tell me if i can use my windows in ubuntu... o i have to install another new
[06:09] <Luger> I can ping my router but I can't ping google.com for example
[06:09] <faileas> remove the ## from those BleedingMoon. then save
[06:09] <stefg> !patience | applejuize_
[06:09] <ubotu> applejuize_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:09] <BleedingMoon> faileas: DONE
[06:09] <Crozar> then save it?
[06:09] <faileas> Locuaz: YES
[06:09] <Crozar> ok
[06:09] <faileas> ack
[06:09] <Crozar> il ask questions in 4 hours
[06:09] <Locuaz> install new?
[06:09] <Crozar> maybe 5 hours
[06:09] <pwnd_> Ubuntu recognizes my ethernet card, but does not recognize it as a network card. I have Fa133 netgear card and feisty
[06:09] <fermatstheore1> jo_: yup
[06:09] <jo_> fermatstheore1: i will install osx10 on my pc very soon
[06:09] <kaarel>  i want to install Windows XP instead of my Ubuntu....it aint installing on its own....
[06:09] <KurtKraut> Crozar: I already sugested you using ubuntuforums.org
[06:10] <BleedingMoon> faileas: what now?
[06:10] <davi> How many packages has Ubuntu?
[06:10] <faileas> BleedingMoon: saved? then exit to console. then in console type in apt-get update
[06:10] <Crozar> thanks
[06:10] <Crozar> is theyr a paying method support?
[06:10] <Crozar> id take that
[06:10] <BleedingMoon> faileas: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:10] <BleedingMoon> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[06:10] <jo_> davi: what do you mean?
[06:10] <tiekyl> kaarel: You having troubles installing windows?
[06:10] <faileas> hmm?
[06:10] <KurtKraut> Crozar: yes, there is. Even by phone.
[06:10] <faileas> ahh
[06:11] <Crozar> i will call
[06:11] <Crozar> number!!
[06:11] <fermatstheore1> jo_: osx works because of controlled hardware
[06:11] <faileas> BleedingMoon: sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <rly> nvidia 8800 GTS doesn't work in feisty
[06:11] <kaarel> yes, i am
[06:11] <rly> with whom may I talk about it?
[06:11] <KurtKraut> Crozar: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[06:11] <applejuize_> ubotu: I'm not complaining ... I'm sorry if it seemed like that .... I'm just saying that I gave a try to the rm command because I didn't expect to get an answer
[06:11] <faileas> (sorry i use a su based dustro too so i forget to use sudo)
[06:11] <fermatstheore1> jo_it would fare worse off than linux when it is cracked outside the mac system
[06:11] <[nrx] > !windows
[06:11] <Crozar> can i use paypal or must credit?
[06:11] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:11] <jo_> fermatstheore1: you mean, trouble ahead with pc?
[06:11] <BleedingMoon> no problem.
[06:11] <fermatstheore1> applejuize_: ubotu - bot
[06:11] <faileas> applejuize_: ubotu is a bot ;p
[06:11] <tiekyl> ..Haha wow..
[06:11] <chickenFuego> Hi, I guess this one is a classic: How do I enable desktop effects qui ati Xseries?
[06:11] <KurtKraut> Crozar: you're welcome.
[06:11] <faileas> BleedingMoon: works with sudo?
[06:12] <chickenFuego> anyone with ATI graphics card "X***"
[06:12] <chickenFuego> 3d is ok, but not compiz & co..
[06:12] <chickenFuego> I had to install the fglrx drivers..
[06:12] <BleedingMoon> faileas: yep
[06:12] <davi> jo_,  How many packages? For example: 12000
[06:12] <chickenFuego> but still it fails with compiz ;((
[06:12] <applejuize_> faileas: ahahahha ....
[06:12] <faileas> BleedingMoon: you got multiverse now ;p
[06:12] <KurtKraut> chickenFuego: this 'Xpress 200' suits ?
[06:12] <Luger> KurtKraut: This is what I get with ifconfig: http://i4.tinypic.com/6bavbky.png
[06:12] <BleedingMoon> thx!
[06:12] <applejuize_> faileas: I'm really a newbie!!! :P
[06:12] <jo_> davi: what packages? syn?
[06:12] <KurtKraut> Luger: explain me how the wiring is set.
[06:12] <ern>  i did a misstake and removed the networkmanger from the panel and i want it back but i cant found out how, anyone know?
[06:12] <SpeakerMania> How do I save a file using nano?
[06:12] <tiekyl> Is there any way  to change the color of the menu text (on the top bar) without using gnome-color-chooser?
[06:13] <chickenFuego> KurtKraut, no, the ATI mobility X1350
[06:13] <faileas> applejuize_: no one's perfect. hell i'm on windows now ;p
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> faileas: #
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> Due to a recent bug, you should probably also enable the "proposed updates" repository. See UbuntuUpdates. (This will no longer be necessary once the bug is fixed. See Troubleshooting below.)
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> #
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> Install the package flashplugin-nonfree.
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> #
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> Extra Step for Konqueror. In Konqueror, click Settings  Configure Konqueror. Scroll down the side to Plugins. Click Scan for new plugins
[06:13] <davi> jo_, the number of packages, counting    the desktop distribution more the server one
[06:13] <[nrx] > SpeakerMania: ctrl + o
[06:13] <lakcaj> SpeakerMania, F3
[06:13] <chickenFuego> but the problem is reported in feisty for all Xseries..
[06:13] <[miles] > good afternoon #ubuntu  ... does anyone know how the hell I can create a .deb package, but build binary, lib and dev package too please?
[06:13] <BleedingMoon> we done now step 2?
[06:13] <[nrx] > !pastebin | BleedingMoon
[06:13] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <KurtKraut> Luger: you have the A computer and B computer. Which one has the DSL modem pluged in, which one has windows, which one has Ubuntu
[06:13] <Luger> KurtKraut: Modem>Router>1 XP PC & 1 Ubuntu PC and I'm using a cable connection
[06:13] <chickenFuego> forums are full of it.. but no answer to find yet...
[06:13] <jpastore> anyone have anyluck with connecting to a microsoft pptp server?
[06:13] <ompaul> !paste | BleedingMoon
[06:13] <SpeakerMania> [nrx[, lakcaj: Thanks
[06:13] <Crozar> what is this??? Thin client and cluster support and  this Desktop support ? is this for laptops also? and which should i take
[06:13] <[nrx] > np
[06:13] <doug__> Pici,  i did a restart on my computer and it said now restarting but didnt i had to manually shutdown by hand lol
[06:13] <KurtKraut> Luger: this router has a builtin DHCP ?
[06:13] <faileas> BleedingMoon: link me the howto. i'm a bit lost ;p
[06:14] <[nrx] > Crozar: desktop support
[06:14] <BleedingMoon> faileas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[06:14] <BleedingMoon> 7.04
[06:14] <pwnd_> Anyone good with network cards?
[06:14] <applejuize_> faileas: mee too because my ubuntu has lost connection since I installed vmware!
[06:14] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, good I don t know, but I solved some issues already..
[06:14] <faileas> lol
[06:14] <Luger> KurtKraut: I'm not sure but I can change DHCP settings if I go to the router website
[06:15] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, would you know anything about ubuntu seeing the hardware, but not as an ethernet card?
[06:15] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, which card?
[06:15] <KurtKraut> Luger: tell me your router model.
[06:15] <pwnd_> FA311 Netgear
[06:15] <applejuize_> faileas: ... and I'm trying to disable vmware to start at startup, hoping this will fix it
[06:15] <Luger> KurtKraut: It's a E-Tech ADSL Ethernet Router
[06:16] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, seeing in the lscpi or kernel log or where?
[06:16] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, hardware manager
[06:16] <faileas> BleedingMoon: kk
[06:16] <BleedingMoon> ?
[06:16] <faileas> one moment
[06:16] <BleedingMoon> np
[06:16] <KurtKraut> Luger: you showed me a screenshot that lists to ethernet cards in Ubuntu. What is pluged in each card ?
[06:16] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, don t trust GUIs, give me the ouptput of "lspci" in a pastebin. plz
[06:16] <faileas> BleedingMoon: go back to editing the sources.list. look for a proposed updates repo?
[06:17] <faileas> hmm
[06:17] <BleedingMoon> how i do it?
[06:17] <faileas> no
[06:17] <Luger> KurtKraut: I only have one NIC which goes to my router
[06:17] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, can I just give you the part where it has my NIC card? :P I have to type it manaually onto this computer.
[06:17] <ndo> hey, guys, how can i convert daa to iso plz? ty :P
[06:17] <KurtKraut> Luger: there is two... eth0 and eth1, both listed: http://i4.tinypic.com/6bavbky.png
[06:17] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it even says enternet controller
[06:18] <faileas> BleedingMoon: i don't think there's such a repo. install and test
[06:18] <Ant1jr> well i got beryl kinda working
[06:18] <BleedingMoon> install what?
[06:18] <BleedingMoon> and how i install it?
[06:18] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, click on the menu application/Accessoire/Terminal... then type at the command prompt: lspci
[06:18] <KurtKraut> Luger: you must disable the one that is not pluged to the router.
[06:18] <Ant1jr> When I turn on beryl I dont have any top bar on my windows why
[06:18] <chickenFuego> paste the output here:
[06:18] <faileas> BleedingMoon: wait...
[06:18] <Wardje> When I open .MP3s from my FAT32 harddisk (on which I run XP) with VLC media player there is an awful amount of distortion, any ideas on solving this?
[06:18] <BleedingMoon> -waiting-
[06:18] <faileas> something isn't right ;p
[06:18] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, I know. I just got it. I said I had to type it onto this computer since it's on a seperate computer.
[06:18] <chickenFuego> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:18] <Luger> KurtKraut: Hmm I have to check which one that is
[06:19] <peter_> hallo alle zusammen
[06:19] <Luger> KurtKraut: You have 5 minutes? it's in another room :)
[06:19] <KurtKraut> Luger: wait
[06:19] <Luger> KurtKraut: oke
[06:19] <PriceChild> !de | peter_
[06:19] <ubotu> peter_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:19] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, a separate computer??
[06:19] <Ant1jr> help when i turn on beryl I dont have any bars on my windows
[06:19] <Wardje> When I open .MP3s from my FAT32 harddisk (on which I run XP) with VLC media player there is an awful amount of distortion, any ideas on solving this ?
[06:19] <Luger> KurtKraut: Maybe http://i2.tinypic.com/4tsqvyo.png and http://i8.tinypic.com/62h6wco.jpg can help you
[06:19] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, yes. http://pastebin.ca/699667
[06:19] <doug__> Pici,  my comp wont shut down now i have to maunually shut it down would it have to do with that file its what im thnking
[06:19] <KurtKraut> Luger: you have two interfaces: eth0 and eth1. Let us shut down both by the following command: sudo ifdown eth0
[06:19] <peter_> thx
[06:20] <KurtKraut> Luger: and the same command to eth1
[06:20] <KurtKraut> Luger: to turn then on, just do: sudo ifup eth0
[06:20] <Ant1jr> help my windows dont have bars wehn I enable beryl
[06:20] <KurtKraut> Luger: the same for eth1
[06:20] <faileas> BleedingMoon: is there a feisty-proposed repo listed in /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[06:20] <Luger> KurtKraut: Oke I'm writing it down then I'm going to the other room
[06:20] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, ok, then please paste the output of "lsmod"
[06:20] <KurtKraut> Luger: when you do the ifup, Ubuntu will request an IP using the DHCP method.
[06:20] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, the idea is you might need a kernel module.
[06:21] <Ant1jr> help my windows dont have bars wehn I enable beryl
[06:21] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, oh god. This one is much larger :P
[06:21] <KurtKraut> Luger: the card that will receive an DHCP answer and a local IP is the one pluged to the router.. did you get it ?
[06:21] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, ah, k.
[06:21] <faileas> !patience > Ant1jr
[06:21] <lnx_> i have no "install" menu when i click on deb file what i can do ?
[06:21] <BleedingMoon> i dont got the file
[06:21] <faileas> Ant1jr: ask and wait. PLEASE don't spam the channel
[06:21] <BleedingMoon> should i open it again
[06:21] <BleedingMoon> ??
[06:21] <Ant1jr> ok but I figured people didnt see
[06:21] <faileas> BleedingMoon: ya. same way
[06:21] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, is there something I should be looking for in particular?
[06:21] <Luger> Yes :)
[06:22] <Luger> KurtKraut I'm going to check it right away, thanks :)
[06:22] <foug> how do i change what programs i can delete from my start up? and how can i find out which ones i don't need? Update-notifier and notification-daemon don't sound important, can anyone help?
[06:22] <BleedingMoon> faileas: now tell me plz, what i need to search for?
[06:22] <KurtKraut> Luger: and a finaltip
[06:22] <faileas> BleedingMoon: something like feisty-proposed
[06:22] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, yes, I googled you card, the kernel module should be 8139too
[06:22] <chickenFuego> so check if you have if with lsmod
[06:22] <KurtKraut> Luger: after getting a local IP, offered by your router using a DHCP, you should be able to use internet. This is your router issue.
[06:22] <BleedingMoon> fiesty proposed?!
[06:22] <BleedingMoon> what is that
[06:22] <KurtKraut> Luger: this router should make internet transparent to both computers.
[06:23] <BleedingMoon> the text?
[06:23] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it's there.
[06:23] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, and pastbin me the output of "sudo ifconfig"
[06:23] <KurtKraut> Luger: so, go there and try it.
[06:23] <pwnd_> chickenFuego alright
[06:23] <KingPython> when i connect to server on amule,it isnt searching any file on 3 days.what can be problem?
[06:23] <chickenFuego> oh pwnd_ it might become complicated then...
[06:23] <chickenFuego> so what gives the ifconfig??
[06:23] <BleedingMoon> faileas: all of the http links are without the prefix #
[06:23] <BleedingMoon> :\
[06:23] <Luger> KurtKraut: Thanks I wrote down everything I'll be back within 5 minutes
[06:24] <BleedingMoon> i dont understand u while u sayin that i need to search for fiesty propose
[06:24] <faileas> BleedingMoon: good. now in console try apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:24] <FFForever> what does ubotu run?
[06:24] <BleedingMoon> faileas: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:24] <BleedingMoon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:24] <ibara> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:24] <faileas> BleedingMoon: wierd but it says there's such a repo, but i have never heard of it. and as i mentioned, i'm not on ubuntu right now. running off memory
[06:24] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, http://pastebin.ca/699673
[06:25] <applejuize_> guys, anybody experienced problem with vmware screwing up the host (ubuntu) connection while allowing the guest(win xp) to connect ?
[06:25] <faileas> BleedingMoon: ... i forgot the sudo again ><
[06:25] <FFForever> anyone want to tell me what ubotu runs?, i need to set one up (lol)
[06:25] <faileas> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:25] <joebob777as7> hey what's the best way to mount a bin cd image in ubuntu?
[06:25] <faileas> erm
[06:25] <faileas> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:25] <lnx_> with wich software i can install deb pakages in graphical way ?
[06:25] <graft> yo - i have a multi-user machine which is used by both gnome and kde users. i'd like to have multiple simultaneous logins available - is this possible?
[06:25] <faileas> graft: sure
[06:26] <applejuize_> since I managed to get the guest connected ubuntu prompts me with wireless network key required
[06:26] <trakinas> hi all! does anyone knows why in some apps when saving a file it asks if i want to reload or save it?
[06:26] <trakinas> it kind of irritates me
[06:26] <graft> faileas: well i'm running kdm, and gnome complains that it needs gdm in order to do user switching
[06:26] <doug__> hey faileas  what does the flashplugin-nonfree do?
[06:26] <graft> faileas: and i assume kde would complain the same way if i used gdm
[06:26] <trakinas> doug__, adds flash support
[06:26] <faileas> doug__: BleedingMoon needs it. it installs flash
[06:26] <frojnd> !games
[06:27] <root__> snoyarsk.ru
[06:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:27] <doug__> graft u can install ubuntu gnome desktop by typing sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktopit will install the gnome
[06:27] <NET||abuse> Hi,, i was wondering if there's a decent way to open up a server to run a remote download queue?
[06:27] <faileas> graft: you need gnome for people to run gnome ;p
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> faileas: tal@Tal-Comp:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> Reading package lists... Done
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> Building dependency tree
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> Reading state information... Done
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:27] <doug__> trakinas,  and faileas  ah ok thanks
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> is only available from another source
[06:27] <NET||abuse> A web front end of something that can load up urls to be downloaded in sequence as a service
[06:27] <pwnd_> Pastebin, imo.
[06:27] <graft> faileas: i have gnome installed, it's an ubuntu installation. people can choose gnome or kde just fine
[06:27] <BleedingMoon> i put it here bcuz the pastbin dont work :\
[06:27] <faileas> lovely
[06:27] <faileas> BleedingMoon: hmm
[06:27] <graft> faileas: but if i want to use the 'switch user' feature from gnome, it complains that i'm not running gdm
[06:28] <faileas> BleedingMoon: wrong howto
[06:28] <doug__> BleedingMoon,  try sudo aptitude install
[06:28] <faileas> graft: outtta my depth;
[06:28] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, anything? :/
[06:28] <[nrx] > !compiz
[06:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:28] <v> hi everyone, is there someone here how knows his/her way on Beryl and those kind of effects?
[06:28] <lnx_> with wich software i can install deb pakages in graphical way ?
[06:28] <graft> v: try #beryl
[06:28] <pwnd_> ^win
[06:28] <BleedingMoon> doug__: WHAT TO WRITE, exactly :\
[06:28] <v> thanks, graft
[06:28] <rajiv_nair> lnx_:gdebi
[06:28] <faileas> BleedingMoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[06:28] <Vegar> how do I prevent apt-get from upgrading a package?
[06:29] <v> #beryl
[06:29] <doug__> BleedingMoon,  type sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, the command "sudo ifconfig" or "ifconfig" gives an empty output??
[06:29] <Prithi> ubuntu
[06:29] <dgjones> !pining | Vegar
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pining - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it only gives for lo
[06:29] <pwnd_> I have no eth# or anything else
[06:29] <whileimhere> I have a program I compiled called SDLMAME it is in a folder on my desktop. How can I make it work in the terminal without navigating to its folder?
[06:29] <graft> !pinning
[06:29] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:29] <dgjones> !pinning | Vegar
[06:29] <ubotu> Vegar: please see above
[06:29] <pwnd_> It was only half the paste though, that I sent you
[06:29] <Prithi> msg nickserv register password
[06:29] <Vegar> thanks, dgjones
[06:29] <doug__> v type /join #wwed i can try help u
[06:29] <rajiv_nair> !hi | prithi
[06:29] <ubotu> prithi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:29] <applejuize_> also if I go to System/Administration/Network Tools/  ... and choose wireless interface wlan0 ... at the Interface Information  Hardware address: not available and the same all others. Do you have any suggestions?
[06:30] <[nrx] > !AIGLX
[06:30] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[06:30] <dgjones> Vegar, graft got to the right factoid first :)
[06:30] <Vegar> oh, yeah, thanks to graft too
[06:30] <[nrx] > !xgl
[06:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <trakinas> does anyone has ever used screem?
[06:30] <Prithi> hi ubotu
[06:30] <BleedingMoon> doug__: faileas: what i should do. which way?
[06:30] <graft> trakinas: screen?
[06:30] <rajiv_nair> !me
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <Prithi> how do i install ubuntu
[06:31] <doug__> BleedingMoon,  if apt-get not work try the aptitude
[06:31] <BleedingMoon> i done
[06:31] <howlingmadhowie> !windowsme
[06:31] <BleedingMoon> it gave me lots of words
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <trakinas> lnx_, synaptic
[06:31] <BleedingMoon> sec ill give u some highlits
[06:31] <BleedingMoon> lights
[06:31] <faileas> BleedingMoon: on a 64 bit system the other way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[06:31] <rajiv_nair> !installation
[06:31] <mcscruff> lo all, anyone had any problems running google earth?
[06:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:31] <trakinas> it comes with ubuntu..
[06:31] <politik> can someone recommend a newsgroup reader please, besides Thunderbird?
[06:31] <trakinas> graft, no. screem html editor
[06:31] <mcscruff> politik, binaries or text?
[06:31] <graft> trakinas: oh.. nope, never used it
[06:32] <Prithi> microsoft
[06:32] <shem> i accidently removed network-manager-gnome from my panel.  how do i get it back? ??  i run nm-applet and get nothing
[06:32] <doug__> BleedingMoon,  join me in #wwed so we not flood the room
[06:32] <politik> mostly text, but binary support would be nice as well of course
[06:32] <lnx_> trakinas , i talk about when i right click on debian file i will have "install" and "uninstall" and "info" how i can install this one ?
[06:32] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, you might want to try: "sudo rmmod 8139too" and then "sudo modprobe 8139too"
[06:32] <trakinas> ah.
[06:32] <trakinas> dont know.
[06:32] <mcscruff> politik, try "pan"
[06:32] <trakinas> i use command line for local debs
[06:32] <chickenFuego> while doing it, type "dmesg | tail" in a second console.
[06:32] <rajiv_nair> !ubotu | prithi
[06:32] <ubotu> prithi: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:32] <chickenFuego> paste the lines dmesg is writing...
[06:32] <mosno> ok, prevu rocks
[06:33] <me> http://tinyurl.com/2d4lag
[06:33] <politik> mcscruff: thanks I will
[06:33] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, forget "dmesg", type "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" in the second console instead..
[06:33] <chickenFuego> I  wait.
[06:33] <trakinas> gtg"
[06:34] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, shit, k xD
[06:34] <lnx_> how i can : when i right click on debian file i will have "install" and "uninstall" and "info" how i can install this one ?
[06:34] <shem> anyone know how to put network-manager-gnome back on a panel?
[06:34] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, give me a few minutes.
[06:35] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, ok.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> lnx_,  its best to be using the package manager to install things. or install stuff from the shell. with sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[06:35] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, but only one minute! ;))
[06:35] <pwnd_> Oh god :P
[06:35] <applejuize_> I'm turning mad o_O .... I'm going to give it a break ... thanks people  ... see you later
[06:35] <mosno> is there an equivalent of Fedora's virt-manager for Feisty?
[06:35] <lnx_> Dr_willis , i know , but i had this menu i talk about and i dont know why now i dont have it , how i can return it ?
[06:36] <ptn107> shem: system -> preferences -> sessions, under startup programs is "Network Manager" listed?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> lnx_,  no idea. I dont use gnome. so cant help ya there.
[06:36] <[nrx] > hm, don't think i'll bother with compiz
[06:36] <ptn107> shem: if not add Network Manager , the command is        nm-applet --sm-disable
[06:37] <lnx_> Dr_willis , i also use kde. . .
[06:37] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, http://pastebin.ca/699692
[06:37] <shem> ok thanks ill try.  i had it then i removed it from the panel now it wont show up anywhere
[06:37] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, I assumed the rest was unneeded.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> lnx_,  been tweaking my fluxbox setup lately. :)
[06:38] <politik> mcscruff: works well, thanks!
[06:38] <rocunreal> How do i turn off Triple Buffering?
[06:38] <ptn107> shem: thats something youll want to have around, best not to remove it
[06:38] <voraistos> hi. anyone knows how to configure sdl ? i have poor opengl support and bad audio. i would like for example to force alsa instead of openal.
[06:38] <mcscruff> politik, np
[06:38] <voraistos> (the app using sdl is proprietary, no means to change the code)
[06:39] <shem> right.  i was trying to remove excess crap from my panel and i accidently got it
[06:39] <codecaine_> hi how can I extract only a filenames that I find with find without getting the path to the file
[06:39] <rocunreal> How do i turn off Triple Buffering?
[06:39] <chickenFuego> [59491.625949]  8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
[06:39] <chickenFuego> [59491.631244]  8139too 0000:00:12.0: Chip not respoding , ignore board
[06:39] <chickenFuego> [59491.631497]  8139too: probe of 0000:00:12.0 failed with error -5
[06:39] <voraistos> xorg.conf
[06:39] <Dr_willis> codecaine,  for scripting i seem to recall a 'base' command. or simthing  that seperated names from the paths.
[06:39] <SpeakerMania> How do I get/install Beryl Emerald?
[06:40] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, I never saw something like "chip not responding"
[06:40] <pwnd_> XD
[06:40] <rocunreal> How do i turn off Triple Buffering?    ( its a video card thing)
[06:40] <Dr_willis> codecaine,  its 'basename' :)
[06:40] <chickenFuego> you might give your pastbin on freaks channels like "#gentoo" or "#linux"
[06:40] <codecaine_> ty
[06:41] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, haha, alright. Thanks.
[06:41] <[nrx] > mu
[06:41] <rocunreal> How do you turn off Triple Buffering in Linux?
[06:41] <ptn107> rocunreal: edit your config.wtf
[06:41] <[nrx] > !patience | rocunreal
[06:41] <foug> how do i change what programs i can delete from my start up? and how can i find out which ones i don't need? Update-notifier and notification-daemon don't sound important, can anyone help?
[06:41] <ubotu> rocunreal: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:41] <Rick__> hey all, attached is my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37604  kindly assist to advise how to get grub to boot to my win partition .. been googling quite a bit still cant get it to work
[06:41] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, your card might be broken.... but I am not sure.
[06:41] <gustavo> please... i used ubuntu repositories to install XGL (on debian), and needed to upgrade libc6, libc6-dev, and etc... how can i downgrade it all? apt pin priority or something?
[06:41] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it was just in my windows machine :P
[06:41] <chickenFuego> Is it a new or rather old computer?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> foug,  well if you dont want to be notified of any security updates - they are not imporntant. :)
[06:42] <pwnd_> It's like..
[06:42] <pwnd_> 2000
[06:42] <pwnd_> haha
[06:42] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, you mean working under windows?
[06:42] <ptn107> rocunreal: change   SET tripleBuffer "1"    to  SET tripleBuffer "0"  or remove it entirely
[06:42] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, yes
[06:42] <chickenFuego> which version of ubuntu are you using? feisty? dapper?
[06:42] <rocunreal> Dang i didn't think you guys would have the answer you linux guys pro's RocK ON!
[06:43] <ptn107> rocunreal: im no pro.   but i do know how to use google fast
[06:43] <[nrx] > ptn107: lol
[06:43] <manawyddan> Hello everyone, i'm having problems with LAMP, i'm using Ubuntu 7.04, i'm unable to restart Apache, it says: * Forcing reload of web server (apache2)...                                                                                                                 apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[06:43] <rocunreal> lol
[06:43] <manawyddan> httpd (no pid file) not running
[06:43] <manawyddan> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[06:43] <manawyddan>                                                                                                                                                       [fail] 
[06:43] <chickenFuego> find out with: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:43] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, find out with: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:43] <manawyddan> Can anyone help me?
[06:43] <SpeakerMania> How do I get/install Beryl?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[06:43] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <gordonjcp> manawyddan: look in the error log
[06:43] <[nrx] > !beryl | SpeakerMania
[06:43] <ubotu> SpeakerMania: please see above
[06:44] <gordonjcp> manawyddan: the message about the fqdn probably isn't your problem
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Beryl is so problamatic it has its own channel. :)
[06:44] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, wait, what would be in there? I've only had to use that when upgrading :P
[06:44] <chickenFuego> the text there gives you the sources of your packages.
[06:45] <chickenFuego> so some url, then "dapper" or "feisty"?
[06:45] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it's the default ones for feisty :P
[06:45] <SpeakerMania> [nrx] : Thank you!
[06:45] <[nrx] > SpeakerMania: no problem
[06:45] <SpeakerMania> [nrx] : Where above?
[06:45] <SpeakerMania> !beryl
[06:45] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:46] <Dr_willis> lsb_release  -a      ---> shows what version of ubuntu ya are using.
[06:46] <SpeakerMania> [nrx] : Nevermind
[06:46] <xardas> Hi. I've saved session using gnome-session manager. Now when I log in I see only screen with my wallpaper and can do nothing but restart X.org. How to remove saved session?
[06:46] <alecwh> Hello! I've been trying to figure out this app (hamachi, a VPN), and I think I did everything right. I installed it, and created/connected to my VPN, with my laptop and my desktop. I did "get-nicks" and "list", and both computers recognize each other! :D THE ONLY PROBLEM, is that I can't access each other's laptop... I put their IP in my web browser, and it didn't connect. I have no idea what's wrong...
[06:47] <chickenFuego> ok pwnd_ , you have the latest release of ubuntu. I was just gessing that you network card might be a new new hot model.
[06:47] <rocunreal> ptn107 ive tried " SET tripleBuffer 1 " and it saids  bash: change: command not found
[06:47] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, well, I bought it recently, yes, but I just downloaded ubuntu yesterday, actually :P
[06:47] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, that s why I am asking: is the computer new, desktop, laptop? did you install the pci card youself?
[06:47] <[nrx] > rocunreal: you need to edit your conf
[06:47] <[nrx] > lol
[06:48] <rocunreal> conf?
[06:48] <rocunreal> ^^
[06:48] <[nrx] > xorg.conf
[06:48] <ptn107> rocunreal: /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:48] <jhmalv> salut
[06:48] <rocunreal> thanks
[06:48] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, computer is a year 2000, desktop, and I installed it, yes. I didn't have troubles with it before, but :/
[06:49] <rocunreal> /home/josh/etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[06:49] <rocunreal> im such a newbie :(
[06:49] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, but?
[06:49] <pwnd_> But idk what's wrong*
[06:49] <zeeeee> can anyone help with my intel gma 950 issues? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551869
[06:49] <Dr_willis> rocunreal,  /etc/ is a system directory where configs are at.  /home/ is where th eusers HOME dirs are at. not system stuff
[06:49] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[06:50] <doug__> how do i make a backupcopy of my home folder and put it on my winblows xp side ?
[06:50] <jez9999> I think Ubuntu (and other distroes) should mount removable devices synchronously by default.  how can i suggest this?
[06:50] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, are the #gentoo or #linux guys responding?
[06:50] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, no, haha
[06:50] <xardas> Any ideas?
[06:51] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, well, I am googling for "8139too chip not responding"
[06:52] <Dr_willis> chickenFuego,  i seem to recall on my one machine there was 2  , 8139XXX modules.. One worked for me on one box other was needed for a different machine. Both had 8139 nic's
[06:52] <Dr_willis> chickenFuego,  not sure what the differances was. some version change , both of my cards were by same manuf. Just one was older.
[06:52] <jrib> jez9999: bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:52] <marlun> Does Ubuntu not have/use a .bash_profile file?
[06:53] <ptn107> rocunreal: oh and i believe the option you need to add is               Option "TripleBuffer" "False"     under   Section "Device"      best to make a backup of your xorg.conf before you mess with it, you dont wanna break X
[06:53] <jrib> marlun: I don't use it, why?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> marlun,  it uses mine. :) of coruse i might of made it do so.
[06:53] <mosno> omg could this OS get any more elite
[06:53] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, do you have more that one network card?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> marlun,  .bash_profile i belive is loaded by 'login' shells.
[06:53] <jrib> marlun: .bash_profile only gets sourced for login shells
[06:53] <rocunreal> ^^
[06:53] <Dr_willis> it then normally reads the .bashrc I belive
[06:54] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, not in that machine, no.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> mosno,  wait for the Next release. :)
[06:54] <marlun> what is a login shell? I thought that file was where you put stuff you wanted to get executed when you login?
[06:54] <foug> Dr_willis: i usually check for updates myself, do you know what is starts up? some of these processes i'm unsure of
[06:54] <mosno> Dr_willis: yea the first Ubuntu to actually support my hardware! I can't wait
[06:54] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, strange post for the same error message as yours:
[06:54] <chickenFuego> http://osdir.com/ml/user-groups.linux.india.help/2003-11/msg00244.html
[06:54] <doug__> mosno,  why do u think this os is leet for?
[06:54] <Invisionfree> How do I list installed packages?
[06:55] <jrib> marlun: a login shell is what you get when you hit ctrl-alt-f1 for example.  You should use .bashrc which gets sourced everytime you opena  terminal or .xprofile which gets sourced when you login using gdm
[06:55] <jrib> Invisionfree: aptitude search '~i'
[06:55] <Dr_willis> foug,  not really. do some googling I guess to see what is what.   There may be a forum thread on it.
[06:55] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, I think I know the problem, heh. May not be it, but
[06:55] <astro76> marlun, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#head-e055972c9ad1430174179bf026bd833d78443a56
[06:55] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, but you said the rmmod and modprobe trick was giving no error messages?
[06:55] <pwnd_> Oh, nevermind
[06:55] <Dr_willis> .xprofile gets read befor/after  you login with gdm?  never noticed that.
[06:55] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, let me look agaain
[06:56] <mosno> doug__: well for example, i came across pravu and did a very easy backport of kvm from Gutsy to Feisty. The udev rule to chgrp kvm /dev/kvm wasn't added, but I'm guessing it's not done in Gutsy or something. Anyway, it was alot more usable than plain pbuilder..
[06:56] <foug> Dr_willis: thanks
[06:56] <lvdave> Is anyone else seeing any problems getting to any ubuntu website this morning?
[06:56] <Invisionfree> jrib: If I upgrade to Feisty, will I lose installed packages?
[06:56] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, yeah, no errors. It didn't return anything, actually
[06:56] <rocunreal> It Saids i do not have permission to Change it wouldn't i need to grant Admin to my Self before i am able to save over it? because administator status isn't granted upon login?
[06:56] <jrib> Invisionfree: no, you shouldn't
[06:56] <Invisionfree> DANG
[06:56] <mosno> doug__: i guess it also helps greatly that Ubuntu is based on Debian, which I happen do know fairly well :)
[06:56] <Invisionfree> Sorry =(
[06:56] <ptn107> rocunreal: a copy of my xorg.conf   with that variable turned off is here if you need to look at it    http://pastebin.ca/699717
[06:56] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, it is fine for modprobe
[06:56] <jrib> Invisionfree: I mean, no, you shouldn't lose any installed packages
[06:57] <Invisionfree> jrib, I know..I wanted to lose the LAMP packages =(
[06:57] <marlun> astro76, thanks :)
[06:57] <rocunreal> Thanks i should be able to get the Rest then im not total newb just linux newb ^^
[06:57] <doug__> ah i never ran cross that prob mosno guess i never messed with kvm
[06:58] <alecwh>  sudo gedit /etc/modules
[06:58] <alecwh> sorry, wrong window everyone.
[06:58] <mosno> doug__: i needed the newer kvm version because i'm running upstream Linux 2.6.22.3, not the regular 2.6.20 in Feisty
[06:59] <doug__> mosno ah ok
[06:59] <doug__> and zeeeee  i asked someone about ur prob he said  sounds like something broke  reinstall
[07:00] <mosno> i *was* going to install Debian Etch onto my new laptop but the temptation of Gnome 2.6.18 was too much for me to resist :-)
[07:00] <dmakalsky> Hi, I am running Gutsy after upgrading from feisty.  What is the preferred way of installing LAMP ?
[07:00] <HLM> 
[07:00] <Pici> !gutsy | dmakalsky
[07:00] <ubotu> dmakalsky: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, from an unclear source, I can read:
[07:00] <dmakalsky> Pici: is there a general ubuntu answer?
[07:00] <chickenFuego> 8139too: Use the "8139cp" driver for improved performance and
[07:00] <chickenFuego> stability.
[07:00] <manawyddan> gordonjcp: i have these messages from error_log and error.log.1 [Sun Sep 16 17:21:02 2007]  [warn]  Init: Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache] 
[07:00] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 17:21:02 2007]  [error]  (2)No such file or directory: could not open mime types config file /etc/apache2/mime.types.
[07:00] <manawyddan> Configuration Failed
[07:00] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:02 2007]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[07:00] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [error]  python_init: Python version mismatch, expected '2.5', found '2.5.1'.
[07:00] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [error]  python_init: Python executable found '/usr/bin/python'.
[07:00] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [error]  python_init: Python path being used '/usr/lib/python25.zip:/usr/lib/python2.5/:/usr/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2:/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-tk:/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload'.
[07:01] <Pici> !paste | manawyddan
[07:01] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [notice]  mod_python: Creating 8 session mutexes based on 150 max processes and 0 max threads.
[07:01] <ubotu> manawyddan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:01] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [notice]  mod_python: using mutex_directory /tmp
[07:01] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:32:12 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.2.10 Python/2.5.1 PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[07:01] <manawyddan> [Sun Sep 16 01:41:13 2007]  [notice]  caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[07:01] <Pici> !ops | manawyddan
[07:01] <ubotu> manawyddan: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[07:01] <pwnd_> DUDE
[07:01] <zeeeee> doug__: what, are you serious
[07:01] <pwnd_> PASTEBIN
[07:01] <zeeeee> argh
[07:01] <PriceChild> !paste | manawyddan
[07:01] <rocunreal> i dont mean to be a nag but it saids when i try an save   You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file.    who do i gain the permissions?  i am the owner of the PC so ^^
[07:01] <YBH_1> what is the best way to add KDE desktop to ubuntu 7.10? anyone have a web page with instructions? TIA
[07:01] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, so like.. apt-get install 8139cp ?
[07:01] <rocunreal> How*
[07:01] <Al-Khouli> hi all , i want to ask about running a prog. from the terminal .. is there a way to close the terminal without having that prog. closed ?
[07:01] <zeeeee> that saddens me. i just spent my whole weekend setting up my system, expecting fully that there was a way to fix the graphics problem
[07:01] <doug__> zeeeee,  thats what he said
[07:01] <kRush> anyone running ntpd with a pppoe internet connection?
[07:01] <chickenFuego> no pwnd_ 8139cp is there by default
[07:02] <vocx> rocunreal, which file are you trying to save and why?
[07:02] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, rofl
[07:02] <chickenFuego> do a "slocate 8139" to check
[07:02] <pwnd_> Ok
[07:02] <rocunreal> the xcong file i think its called
[07:02] <rocunreal> xorg.conf
[07:02] <zeeeee> how is reinstalling going to change anything?
[07:02] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, three sources show up
[07:02] <rocunreal> i need to turn off tiple buffering
[07:02] <ibara> rocunreal, run the editor with sudo or gksudo first then
[07:02] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, try "rmmod 8139too" and do "modprobe 8139cp" (both with sudo)
[07:02] <zeeeee> i mean, the graphics were screwed up as soon as i finished installing the first time
[07:03] <ptn107> rocunreal: you should open up a terminal and use     sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to be able to edit and save
[07:03] <Knight_On_White> hello , if i would like to format my Hdd totaly how i can do that ? i try to use dban cd but it not working good ?
[07:03] <vocx> rocunreal, open the file with "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Then you can edit and save it with root privileges. But be careful.
[07:03] <rocunreal> Thanks Again! you guys are Elite!
[07:03] <Al-Khouli> hi all , i want to ask about running a prog. from the terminal .. is there a way to close the terminal without having that prog. closed ?
[07:03] <YBH_1> No Al-Khouli
[07:03] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, alright
[07:03] <astro76> !screen | Al-Khouli, yes screen...
[07:03] <ubotu> Al-Khouli, yes screen...: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[07:03] <helpme> how is it possibile to chage the prompt in a shell
[07:03] <Crozar> helpme
[07:04] <Crozar> i cant start ubuntu on laptop
[07:04] <Crozar> i mean on laptop LCD
[07:04] <helpme> Crozar: ???
[07:04] <dgjones> Knight_On_White, assuming you're planning on totally deleting everything on the drive, you could just use a livecd and gparted to either delete partitions, or reformat
[07:04] <Crozar> imusing a crt
[07:04] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, and monitor your kernel log like before: seond window with "tail -f /var/log/kernel.log
[07:04] <ompaul> Al-Khouli, you can use cron, you can use screen, you can run it as a daemon
[07:04] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, it's still there, so I'll go paste the output for you then?
[07:05] <Crozar> can any1 help plz
[07:05] <rediz_> cant log in as root
[07:05] <astro76> helpme, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[07:05] <doug__> what is the code to type in term to see all ur installed info aptitude ~i ?
[07:05] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, yes, happy typing o_0
[07:05] <helpme> astro76: thanks
[07:05] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, lmao
[07:05] <Crozar> Hey Linux help me plzz
[07:05] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, nothing about what I did showed up :/
[07:05] <astro76> !root | rediz_
[07:05] <ubotu> rediz_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:06] <zeeeee> doug__: dpkg -l lists your installed packages
[07:06] <vocx> !please | Crozar
[07:06] <ubotu> Crozar: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[07:06] <Crozar> !please
[07:06] <Crozar> !repeat
[07:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:06] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, ok, strange... can you check "sudo ifconig" again now.. and check with lsmod if the 8139cp is there, and the 8139too not.
[07:06] <doug__> zeeeee,  thnks
[07:07] <Crozar> thank you i feel the blood is passing in my little finger
[07:07] <manawyddan> Sorry about that .The url is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37611/
[07:07] <kbrooks> question, how do i flash the bios without a CD or floppy?
[07:07] <mihaX14> kbrooks: usb pendrive ?
[07:07] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, 8139cp is there. ifconfig didn't returned the same thing
[07:07] <Crozar> im using a laptop toshiba , but ubuntu isnt displaying through my laptop lcd but through a CRT monitor which i have plugged in , However it was working when i used the livecd
[07:09] <N1KJN>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[07:09] <Crozar> im using a laptop toshiba , but ubuntu isnt displaying through my laptop lcd but through a CRT monitor which i have plugged in , However it was working when i used the livecd
[07:09] <vocx> Crozar, do not repeat!
[07:09] <kbrooks> question, how do i flash the bios without a CD or floppy?
[07:09] <mihaX14> n1kjn : you must go on freenode
[07:09] <kbrooks> !repeat | crozar
[07:09] <ubotu> crozar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:10] <meswamy> when i connect my hdd i get some error and (initramfs)
[07:10] <RichardHunt> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy and nvidia/compiz fusion. I'm getting the annoying black windows. Is there a way to switch between compiz and metacity without logging out?
[07:10] <Crozar> i did all those searches  im not that noob lol
[07:10] <Crozar> its not that its weird when some1 like me asks questions but ya its linux a new thing to me
[07:10] <doug__> where can i go to to see about all the little codes for the terminalto see what is installed and what is running and other little neat things
[07:10] <Gazoo> RickardHunt .. edit your /usr/bin/compiz script and turn on indirect-rendering
[07:11] <Gazoo> It will fix the black window issues
[07:11] <Crozar> il try to restart this time with a normal boot hope it works
[07:11] <c0nfuser> i install the feisty version and sometimes when i use the terminal the computer crashes, why?
[07:11] <KDDI> hi, i need some help. i am using laptop and have wireless intel proset, is there any software that can support my wireless?
[07:12] <meswamy> when i boot i get tty not found and(initramfs) what should i do?
[07:12] <magnetron> !hardware | KDDI
[07:12] <ubotu> KDDI: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:12] <KDDI> ok thanks
[07:12] <bruenig> !repeat | meswamy
[07:12] <ubotu> meswamy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:13] <vocx> KDDI, also check ubuntuforums.org Lots of info there.
[07:13] <N1KJN>  /msg nickserv link danielrr 73bojszi
[07:13] <meswamy> k
[07:13] <doug__> where i go to see commands and stuff for the terminal little cool codes too
[07:13] <N1KJN>  /msg nickserv link DanielRR 73bojszi
[07:13] <bruenig> !repeat | doug__
[07:13] <ubotu> doug__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:13] <astro76> N1KJN, now you have to change your nickserv password
[07:14] <c0nfuser> i install the feisty version and sometimes when i use the terminal the computer crashes, why?
[07:14] <PriceChild> N1KJN, change your passwords very quickly please.
[07:14] <user01> hi if i go ahead and build a new computer, how to i make sure that the motherboard i select will be 100% compatible with ubuntu?
[07:14] <vocx> !error | c0nfuser
[07:14] <ubotu> c0nfuser: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[07:14] <rediz_> anyone know where xmms skins directory is located
[07:14] <user01> like the sound and everything
[07:14] <mihaX14> rediz: /home/yourname/.xmms
[07:15] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[07:15] <vocx> user01, browse ubuntuforums.org , read blogs, browse online, essentially learn all you can from your hardware.
[07:15] <bruenig> user01, hardware compatibility is a linux thing not ubuntu
[07:15] <magnetron> !hardware | user01
[07:15] <ubotu> user01: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:16] <bruenig> lnx_, delete the history file, it will be in ~ somewhere
[07:16] <rediz_> not there
[07:16] <bruenig> rediz_, dpkg -L xmms
[07:16] <Begasus> so ... one gets kicked for changing a nick??
[07:17] <user01> im trying to get the sierrawireless aircard 875u working under feisty but it just freezes
[07:17] <rediz_> found xmms in ./usr/lib/xmms
[07:17] <mihaX14> redis: my skins are in /home/"yourname"/.xmms/Skins
[07:17] <rediz_> but no file called skins
[07:17] <Begasus> just when I thought this was a friendly chan ...
[07:17] <bruenig> rediz_, look at the output of that command, if following the fhs, it will be in /usr/share for sure
[07:17] <lnx_> bruenig , what is the file name ? ( imean to "run command" not to bash menu . . .. )?
[07:17] <bruenig> lnx_, you have to find it, it depends on the specific run dialog
[07:17] <user01> should i just wipe the install and reinstall with gutsy?
[07:18] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, what is ifconfig returning now???
[07:18] <pwnd_> chickenFuego, the same thing it was
[07:18] <lnx_> bruenig , how i can findit ? i have run the default kde alt + f2
[07:18] <pwnd_> Just stuff for 'lo'
[07:18] <bruenig> lnx_, look for it
[07:18] <bruenig> lnx_, I gave you a good head start it is in ~
[07:18] <mosno> what the crap, xen needs its own libc?
[07:19] <bruenig> I will find it for xfce
[07:19] <KDDI> erm, anyone remember the link where alot of linux iso is listed?
[07:19] <meswamy> im also getting "cant access tty;job controll turned off" what does this mean?
[07:19] <bruenig> didn't take long, I found it in ~/.cache/xfce4/xfrun4
[07:19] <chickenFuego> pwnd_, sorry I have to give up.. you might google your card + "linux" + "module" - maybe you need another module..
[07:19] <rediz_> found it. nice 1 bruenig :)
[07:19] <lnx_> bruenig , i have maby more that 1000 folder and many more files just created by kubuntu how i can find one file that i dont know his name ?
[07:19] <pwnd_> Aww
[07:20] <Random832> anyone else notice that gnome power-manager gets confused by hibernate?
[07:20] <mihaX14> KDDI: http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=linux
[07:20] <user01> the first install on this was edgy then i did the update to feisty . . . is it safe to just di the upgrade to gutsy or should i start from scratch with that?
[07:20] <zeeeee> can anyone help with my intel gma 950 issues? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551869
[07:20] <marlun> What command can I add in .bashrc so that another file is also read when .bashrc, this way I can play in that file?
[07:20] <bruenig> lnx_, just use your head, it obviously won't be in .wine for instance, I can't tell you where it puts it, but I found the xfce one in a matter of seconds, it can't be too hard
[07:20] <Crozar> s i dont know what i did  but i had my laptop lcd working when i changed nvidia to nv then restarted but after i wanted to start desktop effects they said restart after that black screen so now???
[07:20] <bruenig> marlun, you can source other files from within .bashrc
[07:20] <dgjones> user01, you might be better asking in #ubuntu+1 about upgrading to gutsy
[07:20] <KDDI> hmmm, nt that 1 is a specialise page for famous linux image
[07:21] <lnx_> bruenig , i know what you talk about . . . but im new to linux so i dont know the "important" folders . . .
[07:21] <Crozar> so that means accelerated cards for mobile works only in CRT but not in LCD laptop ?
[07:21] <marlun> bruenig, how?
[07:21] <astro76> KDDI, distrowatch?
[07:21] <user01> dgjones:  well i mean in general for a new release is it better to just install again from scratch?
[07:21] <Crozar> how can i revert changes :(
[07:21] <bruenig> lnx_, ok, pastebin ls -la, and I will try to navigate it remotely because you don't want to
[07:21] <KDDI> was that new?
[07:21] <rediz_> now it wont let me copy files into skins dir
[07:21] <bruenig> marlun, just source /path/to/otherfiles, or . /path/to/other/files
[07:22] <bruenig> . means source
[07:22] <bruenig> in that context
[07:22] <bruenig> rediz_, the directory is owned by root, you therefore need to move it with superuser privileges
[07:22] <mihaX14> is distrowatch page down?
[07:22] <lnx_> bruenig , http://pastebin.com/m7b1385dd
[07:22] <rediz_> i'm in as sudo
[07:23] <dgjones> user01, it depends what you've already got installed, whether you've got seperate partitions for /home etc, I do both depending on what i'm upgrading
[07:23] <SirBob1701> anyone have any tips on removing the nvidia driver you install with the .sh (from nvidia site)
[07:23] <rediz_> no lock on files
[07:23] <linuxbeast> hi winston
[07:23] <simprix> Can I install ubuntu from the command line
[07:23] <vocx> user01, some people have no issues upgrading. I believe it was troublesome to upgrade before but that is getting better with every release. Just beware of using unofficial repositories.
[07:23] <winston> does anybody know how i can transfer music to my phone?
[07:23] <Gazoo> mihaX14 go to the www.distrowatch.cz mirror I read that distrowatch.com is being DDos'd
[07:23] <user01> dgjones:  yes i do have separate partitions
[07:23] <linux_user400354> !phone > winston
[07:23] <vocx> !alternate | simprix
[07:23] <ubotu> simprix: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:24] <linux_user400354> !phone
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <linux_user400354> !food
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <linux_user400354> !givemefreefood
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about givemefreefood - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <KDDI> ddos..? no wonder i cant get in that site
[07:24] <astro76> !botabuse | linux_user400354
[07:24] <ubotu> linux_user400354: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:24] <mihaX14> gazoo: tx
[07:24] <dgjones> user01, i'd probably do a fresh install rather than an upgrade then
[07:24] <simprix> so I can't do it from the Live CD
[07:24] <Random832> anyone know how to cleanly restart gnome-power-manager without logging off?
[07:24] <astro76> !alternate | simprix
[07:24] <ubotu> simprix: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:24] <ocram> hi@ll
[07:24] <winston> kddi do you know how i can transfer music to my phone
[07:24] <orkid> killall gnome-power-manager ? and then run it again?
[07:25] <bruenig> lnx_, ok so using simple common sense, that list can reasonably be cut down to this : http://pastebin.com/m7cf3c203
[07:25] <Crozar> tell me guys how to go in the xorg.conf through terminal whats the sudo command plz for the drivers for gfx card
[07:25] <mihaX14> winston: with usb cable or Bluetooth dongle
[07:25] <winston> linux_user400354: is a bitch
[07:25] <astro76> Crozar, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:25] <linux_user400354> mihaX14: what software should he use? he has the phone connected already
[07:26] <bruenig> lnx_, I would go for .config or .kde myself
[07:26] <linux_user400354> winston: im not a bitch. im a linux whore. i whore around linux.
[07:26] <ocram> problem with beryl@radeon 9700M anybody can help?
[07:26] <KDDI> winston: i'm newbie =D
[07:26] <user01> dgjones: the home directory woulndt interfere with anything would it?  i mean there would be like personal gnome settings maybe that wouldnt be compatible with the new gnome version?
[07:26] <bruenig> but .kderc is a big player too
[07:26] <vocx> !language | winston  linux_user400354
[07:26] <ubotu> winston  linux_user400354: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:26] <linux_user400354> !language :)
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <winston> ok
[07:26] <mihaX14> no software just transfer like on a usb pendrive
[07:27] <linux_user400354> mihaX14: have you done it?
[07:27] <RichardHun1> Thanks, to whoever told me to turn on indirect rendering (computer locked up, obviously some other problem too :). Still getting black screen, also mouse is a bit jerky.
[07:27] <KDDI> plug ur cable?
[07:27] <rediz_> cant extract skins into skins dir what do i need to do
[07:27] <RichardHun1> Have I done it right? :)
[07:27] <Crozar> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf i want to reconfig it
[07:27] <Crozar> how to change stuff inside it and save
[07:27] <Dynamicc> i need help installing ubuntu i have a 40gb hardrive and its saying can not right ex3 on to the hardrive theres nothing on the hardrive at all
[07:27] <astro76> rediz_, what command are you trying?
[07:27] <mihaX14> linux_user400354: yes
[07:28] <dgjones> user01, not that i know of, whether you do an upgrade via the web, or a fresh install, the installer should pick up the settings from the original /home partition unless you tell it to format over it
[07:28] <linux_user400354> mihaX14: he got an error when trying
[07:28] <rediz_> extracting with ultraclean
[07:28] <linux_user400354> winston: tell him the error
[07:28] <ocram> beryl works with aiglx ?????????
[07:28] <Dynamicc> okay how can i do a via web install
[07:28] <dgjones> !install | Dynamicc
[07:28] <ubotu> Dynamicc: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:28] <Crozar> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf can i save it ? i want to make cahnges in xorg.conf whats the command its sudo something nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:28] <astro76> rediz_, I have no idea what that is, if you give us the exact command you tried we might be able to help
[07:29] <astro76> Crozar, that's the command
[07:29] <Crozar> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:29] <vocx> Crozar, use "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"   In nano you save things with the Control key and other letters.
[07:29] <winston> mihaX14: when i click the icon for my phone it say unable to mount device
[07:29] <Crozar> i cant reconfig it
[07:29] <Crozar> ya :D
[07:29] <rediz_> doing in desktop not in terminal
[07:29] <rocunreal> I try an Run Maya 7 ( With Wine ) and it gives me This Error :: Fatal Error. Attempting to save in   c:/windows/temp/josh.20070916.1308.ma    is it possible to fix this error?
[07:29] <user01> dgjones:  is there a way to get like a file with the packages i have installed right now to remind me to install them?
[07:29] <HellDragon> heh
[07:29] <mihaX14> winston : co in a terminal and type: lsusb. It will tell you if the phone is recognized
[07:30] <dgjones> !cloning | user01
[07:30] <ubotu> user01: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[07:30] <Dynamicc> is there any way that i can burn a live cd to format the drives?
[07:30] <rediz_> trying to extract to /usr/share/xmms/skins
[07:30] <winston> mihaX14: ok be right back
[07:30] <PriceChild> Dynamicc, you can format the drives during the install
[07:30] <manawyddan> Hello everyone, sorry for flooding the channel. here it is the URL for the description of the problem that i'm having: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37611/
[07:30] <ocram> @ubotu:  wanna fix problem beryl+radeon9700M , can u help? thx
[07:30] <astro76> rediz_, and where is the file you want to extract?
[07:30] <winston> mihaX14: yes it is listed
[07:30] <vocx> !thanks | ocram
[07:30] <ubotu> ocram: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:31] <user01> dgjones:  that wont screw anything up with like pidgin having been gaim previously??
[07:31] <astro76> rediz_, and what is the file
[07:31] <alecwh> Is it possible to change the network password for a HAMACHI VPN?
[07:31] <ocram> ;-)
[07:31] <mihaX14> winston: what error do you get?
[07:31] <dgjones> user01, i don't know how things like that'll work i'm afraid
[07:31] <vocx> !effects | ocram
[07:31] <ubotu> ocram: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <ocram> @all:  wanna fix problem beryl+radeon9700M , any help? thx
[07:31] <Dynamicc> okay i choose to use the entire disk its 40gb  and its SCSI1 (0,0,0 (sda) 40gb
[07:31] <Dynamicc> and it says cannot write partion to hardisk
[07:31] <kbrooks> so i have a question
[07:31] <ocram> thx bot
[07:32] <user01> dgjones:  because it would be for upgrade
[07:32] <mihaX14> ocram: use compiz fusion
[07:32] <winston> mihaX14: it says unable to mount device
[07:32] <kbrooks> how do i image my HGD?
[07:32] <lnx_> bruenig , i didnt found , there isnt some command to do it ?
[07:32] <kbrooks> s/G//
[07:32] <rocunreal> I try an Run Maya 7 ( With Wine ) and it gives me This Error :: Fatal Error. Attempting to save in   c:/windows/temp/josh.20070916.1308.ma    is it possible to fix this error?   ( note this error happens when loading maya and maya doesn't Load it exits when that error happens on the loading screen, can anyone help me with this problem?
[07:32] <astro76> rocunreal, try #winehq
[07:32] <ocram> @mihaX14: why compiz not beryl?
[07:32] <vocx> kbrooks, solved the BIOS thing?
[07:32] <rocunreal> o sorry i thought i was in winehq sorry sorry i am kinda newbish
[07:33] <KenSentMe> !seen
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <KenSentMe> !seen _Jaak_
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen _jaak_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <mihaX14> beocram: beryl isn't in development anymore
[07:33] <john> hey guys....i am trying to figure out how to route all my sound through my sound blaster card....currently my tv tuner is going through its own sound....any help?
[07:33] <rediz_> when try i grt this: You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/share/xmms/Skins"
[07:33] <user01> dgjones:  sorry what folder is the package list located under?
[07:33] <rediz_> *get
[07:34] <astro76> rediz_, I asked where and what is the file?
[07:34] <mihaX14> winston:brb
[07:34] <winston> mihaX14: ok
[07:34] <maestrojed> I have been trying to install a secondary HD but have had a really hard time.  I partitioned it with gparted and now it shows up in Places>Computer>298.1 GB Volume.  But if I try to access it I get a message "Access to this internal disk is restricted to system administrators for security purposes, please enter password"  If I enter my password it works fine.  But this does not seem normal.  Someone told me it is not mounted.  Can any
[07:34] <maestrojed> one help me.  The drive on my computer is /dev/sda
[07:34] <rediz_> its a tar.gz
[07:34] <astro76> rediz_, sudo tar xvf file.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/
[07:35] <dgjones> user01, i've just tried it and its saved the my-packages in /home
[07:35] <tomy-swe> hi all i have a question, how do i see which sites i visite yesterday
[07:35] <user01> dgjones: like if i just wanted to create a text file of installed packages
[07:35] <vocx> !paste | maestrojed can you paste the /etc/fstab file
[07:35] <ubotu> maestrojed can you paste the /etc/fstab file: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:35] <pvl1> does ubuntu automatically use a swap partition?
[07:36] <vocx> pvl1, yes
[07:36] <dgjones> user01, the my-packages is a text file, you can open it with gedit or any other text editor
[07:36] <tomy-swe> hi all i have a question, how do i see which sites i visite yesterday
[07:36] <stevej> tomy-swe: Ctrl-H will open the history tab in Firefox.
[07:36] <pvl1> vocx when i go into system monitor, it claims that my system isnt using swap space
[07:36] <jgomo3> greetings
[07:36] <vocx> pvl1, that might be an error.
[07:36] <mihaX14> winston:  try this guide to manualy  mount
[07:36] <vocx> !swap | pvl1
[07:36] <ubotu> pvl1: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[07:36] <mihaX14> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/09/10/how-to-mount-usb-disk-drive-in-unix-or-linux/
[07:37] <Dynamicc> okay i am trying to install ubuntu and its saying cannot install because /mount/media is mounted how cna i unmount
[07:37] <pvl1> ty vocx
[07:37] <vocx> Dynamicc, "sudo umount /mount/media"
[07:38] <manawyddan> Does anyone know how to get the apache2.conf file without installing the server or the operating system, does the original apache config file help to solve config problems?
[07:38] <Tominator> hi! I'm trying to mute my Surround Control (rear with Creative Live! 5.1) with amixer, but it doesn't work!
[07:38] <Tominator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37614/
[07:38] <Tominator> it works with Master and PCE but not with Center, LFE and Surround
[07:38] <jgomo3> I put an directory path on the PATH env variable. I did it adding PATH="${PATH}":/my/path on the /etc/bash.bashrc so all users have it
[07:38] <winston> mihaX14: thankyou i will try this and be right back
[07:39] <jgomo3> That is fine, but it's not working with the sudo command
[07:39] <manuel_> Hi, i've been told in the compiz fusion channel that I should ask for support about compiz fusion here, cause I run Ubuntu...
[07:39] <rediz_>  sudo tar xvf ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/  says no such file or directory
[07:39] <PriceChild> jgomo3, isn't that just the file used as defaults and copied to the users directory on its creation?
[07:39] <xero> manuel_, sorry to redirect you again, but #ubuntu-effects is more suited for that.
[07:40] <jgomo3> PriceChild: you mean on the user creation? no
[07:40] <manuel_> okay, thanks
[07:40] <PriceChild> jgomo3, ok then :)
[07:40] <astro76> jgomo3, try /etc/profile instead
[07:40] <Tominator> only mute doesn't work with it... what can i do?
[07:40] <astro76> jgomo3, or even better, /etc/environment
[07:40] <Alron> Hello people. Just looking for some awnsers. Can I just ask questions about (K)Ubuntu here?
[07:40] <Meroigo> I think I have a really strange bug. No leafpad installed, chosen "wine" as default application for .exe files, yet Leafpad is the default application when doubleclicking an exe, and "wine" is not mentioned anywhere in the context menu of a n exe file. Look: http://upload.meroigo.com/bug.png
[07:41] <vocx> !ask | Alron
[07:41] <ubotu> Alron: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <JRlinux> On http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download -- are those install versions only?  Or combination live and install?
[07:41] <Alron> :)
[07:41] <PriceChild> JRlinux, the "desktop" cd is a live cd, with a graphical installer which you can run from its desktop
[07:41] <mihaX14> when I use compiz fusion cube effect it crashes. It's doing so after latest update
[07:42] <mihaX14> can someone help me
[07:42] <Kagee> JRlinux: Combination
[07:42] <PriceChild> JRlinux, the "alternate" cd is just a cli install cd.
[07:42] <PriceChild> !effects | mihaX14
[07:42] <ubotu> mihaX14: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:42] <JRlinux> PriceChild,  Kagee ... Thanks!
[07:42] <kathodos> Are any memtest gurus on? I have a question about some test parameters and the results I pulled up. I did a quick search on the memtest web site and wasn't able to locate a suitable answer.
[07:42] <kbrooks> question. how can i effect the windows key, when typed, to act like alt+f1?
[07:42] <PriceChild> !anyone | kathodos
[07:42] <Alron> I wanted to set up a home server on my old computer with FileSharing, Router, Firewall and prehaps some other services. Should I download Ubuntu Desktop Version or Server Version? I would like to use Xwindows to configure tings, if that's possible. But I seem to remember that the server version is text-only?
[07:42] <ubotu> kathodos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:42] <tomy-swe> thanks stevej i found that thanx alot
[07:43] <maestrojed> vocx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37615/
[07:43] <PriceChild> kbrooks, You could probably use xmodmap for that..
[07:43] <maestrojed> ubotu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37615/
[07:43] <DanielRR_Linux> Hi all I installed a (VIA chipset VT6421A) SATA / IDE controller card which Ubuntu regionizes but the IDE HDD which is connected Ubuntu dose not see. How do I fix this problem?
[07:43] <kbrooks> !xmodmap
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <vocx> !shortcuts | kbrooks
[07:43] <ubotu> kbrooks: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:44] <vocx> kbrooks, the Windows key is called Super_L and SUper_R I think
[07:44] <maestrojed> I do not believe this drive is added to fstab right now.  Last night I tried entering it with "/dec/sda1	/media/OSnet	vfat	defaults	0	0" but then it stopped showing up at all (not even in places>computer) (it is fat32)
[07:44] <kbrooks> vocx, doesnt seem to allow multiple keys, but i remember some option in accessibility
[07:44] <Alron> Does the Server Version of Ubuntu include X?
[07:44] <kbrooks> Alron, no.
[07:45] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I have a question, I have a process running that I would like to see, it's supposed to be shown in the system tray, but it's not, and I can only see it in the system monitor... How do I show it again?
[07:45] <Alron> Ok.. does the Desktop Version include basic server support?
[07:45] <jgomo3> astro76: i tried the environment, but didn't work
[07:45] <c0nfuser> i install the feisty version and sometimes when i use the terminal the computer crashes, why?
[07:45] <jgomo3> PriceChild: what you said was the /etc/skel dir
[07:46] <kathodos> Ok. I was experiencing random lock-ups while playing WoW. At first I thought the problem was my video card, a GeForce 7800 GS AGP, so I removed it and reinstalled my old card, a GeForce 6200. The lock-up error still occurred with the older card, so I decided to run memtest. I let it run for several hours and the memory appeared to be error-free. However, I changed the test parameters under "Memory Sizing" to "Bios All" and I immedia
[07:46] <kathodos> tely began to receive errors. I stopped the test after a few thousand errors. Oddly enough I performed the same test on my spare PC and received the same problem, thousands of errors yet default memtest parameters yielded zero errors. Do I have bad memory or did I happen to set a bad parameter in memtest?
[07:46] <vocx> maestrojed, instead of using /dev/sda1 try using the UUID thing, type "blkid"
[07:46] <PriceChild> jgomo3, "you learn something new every day" :)
[07:46] <Beyond_The_Grave> Can anybody pull up a process running that only appears in the system tray that has a gui?
[07:47] <jgomo3> PriceChild: That's right
[07:47] <DanielRR_Linux> Hi all I installed a (VIA chipset VT6421A) SATA / IDE controller card which Ubuntu regionizes but the IDE HDD which is connected Ubuntu dose not see. How do I fix this problem?
[07:47] <sebrock> anyone using lm-sensors? Will it automaticly shutdown the system if too hot?
[07:48] <PriceChild> sebrock, no, the bios will do that
[07:48] <PriceChild> sebrock, unless you've disabled that feature
[07:48] <vocx> sebrock, I think the BIOS does that, not lm-sensors.
[07:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> Does anybody else have Deluge Torrent v0.5.5?
[07:48] <tomy-swe> i have one question sometimes my computer hangs i need to restart from the power on/off button whats the problem?
[07:48] <sebrock> I've looked all around my bios, cant find the values tho??
[07:48] <rediz_>  sudo tar xvf /home/rediz/software/ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[07:48] <rediz_> tar: /home/rediz/software/ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz
[07:49] <rediz_> says error is not recoverable
[07:49] <jgomo3> astro76: It's wired. In the text console, for example: alt-1, it worked, but in my graphics consoles, there is not.
[07:49] <vocx> tomy-swe, that is a very vague description... I'd say you have a problem with hal, dbus and other hardware power settings...
[07:50] <jgomo3> I think i have to restart my graphic server
[07:50] <jgomo3> il be back
[07:50] <sebrock> PriceChild, cant find anything in manual or BIOS about that
[07:50] <tvrg> aye Crozar, back
[07:50] <sebrock> its a MSI K8N Platinum
[07:50] <knoppixel> !trace
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <knoppixel> !iptraffic
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iptraffic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <hendrixski> Is there a way to set GnomeSword to "Catholic" mode?  It's missing a few books of the bible that the protestants cut out :-/
[07:51] <Crozar> ok here it is ,  with 3d accelerator on that is when using Nvidia Driver state the LCD laptop doesnt work and this bug also conflicts with the CRT too after i had to change nvidia to NV then back to nvidia through 3rd restart
[07:51] <tomy-swe> well i donno i am just surfin then i can not surf anymore my mouse blocks and i can not run other programs i restart the computer from the power on off button
[07:51] <Crozar> hey trvg :)
[07:51] <Crozar> tvrg :/
[07:51] <DanielRR_Linux> can anyone answer a Hardware question for me?
[07:51] <attackdecay> does anyone know a good how to or wiki on general considerations when compiling source?
[07:51] <linux_user400354> i am from turkistan you assholes
[07:51] <knoppixel> how do you see what is passing your machine's network connection?
[07:51] <tvrg> Crozar, got any further (i was away for lunch)
[07:51] <attackdecay> cant seem to find something decent
[07:51] <sn0> !compiling
[07:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:51] <linux_user400354> knoppixel: sudo apt-get install iptraf
[07:52] <sn0> attackdecay see the link above
[07:52] <christina_> can anyone tell me how to get a console login rather than GDM on boot? i have tried update-rc.d -f remove gdm, but now i get no GDM AND no console login
[07:52] <rediz_> astro76 sudo tar xvf ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/  says no such file or directory
[07:52] <Crozar> yes its my 3rd hour now
[07:52] <Crozar> lo
[07:52] <rediz_> says error is not recoverable
[07:52] <linux_user400354> christina_: uninstall gdm
[07:52] <astro76> rediz_, then you typed it wrong
[07:52] <hendrixski> Is there a way to set GnomeSword to "Catholic" mode?  It's missing a few books of the bible that the protestants cut out :-/
[07:52] <IgorSobreira> how can i get good repositories? to edgy...i remember there is a Ubuntu website that you can can generate it...but i cant find anymore...
[07:52] <linux_user400354> christina_: well you might have to do control alt f1 to get to a console login screen
[07:52] <tvrg> Crozar, at what stage are you now?
[07:52] <sn0> !source o matic
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source o matic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <knoppixel> linux_user400354: thnx :)
[07:52] <hendrixski> is there a gnome-sword IRC channel?
[07:52] <linux_user400354> christina_: control alt f1-f6
[07:52] <Crozar> i will be happy asa my laptop screen works with linux on 3d accelerator so i can showoff in uni that im using MSN while its raining with thunder
[07:53] <hendrixski> or an ubuntuCE channel?
[07:53] <sn0> IgorSobreira search google for source o matic and i believe there is a generator
[07:53] <linux_user400354> christina_: is that useful?
[07:53] <IgorSobreira> i found...http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ :D
[07:53] <christina_> linux_user400354: ctrl-alt-... give me flashing cursors only
[07:53] <larson9999> textra's hot
[07:53] <kbrooks> hello?
[07:53] <christina_> linux_user400354: i guess uninstalling gdm will do it
[07:53] <rediz_>  sudo tar xvf /home/rediz/software/ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[07:53] <SrPilha> hello everybody
[07:53] <rediz_> this is how i typed it
[07:53] <linux_user400354> christina_: did you try ctrl alt f2?
[07:53] <christina_> linux_user400354: yep
[07:54] <SrPilha> ppl, what's the difference between filesystems FAT32 and FAT 32 (LBA) ?
[07:54] <Crozar> i tried restarts after restarts i made sure that i coverd every gap of conflict within myself and computer , i tried nv through laptop and crt and i tried nvidia , :) hey tvrg laptop hotkeys work
[07:54] <linux_user400354> christina_: never had that problem, but uninstall gdm has worked for me
[07:54] <Meroigo> I think I have a really strange bug. No leafpad installed, chosen "wine" as default application for .exe files, yet Leafpad is the default application when doubleclicking an exe, and "wine" is not mentioned anywhere in the context menu of a n exe file. Look: http://upload.meroigo.com/bug.png ...
[07:54] <attackdecay> thanks for that link guys
[07:54] <Downix> I keep running across odd programs that won't compile under Ubuntu
[07:54] <SrPilha> (I'm partitioning with cfdisk)
[07:54] <Kazero> Hello all. Im looking for a nice IRC client for ubuntu. One similar to mIRC for windows. I had one before but I dont remember what it was called. Any ideas?
[07:54] <[nrx] > Kazero: there are many
[07:54] <tvrg> Crozar: what's the current issue then? ;)
[07:54] <dgjones> Kazero, try xchat
[07:54] <[nrx] > !irc
[07:54] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[07:54] <spyteman> hey is anyone in here using an (acer) notebook and got the extra touchpad keys to work? are these keys configurable from within gsynaptics? i havent yet managed to install it :(
[07:54] <attackdecay> no packages for freebob unfortunately, nor for ardour2 64bit
[07:54] <linux_user400354> christina_: in other distros and older releases of ubuntu, you could choose to boot to a different run level by editing the /etc/inittab
[07:54] <vocx> !launchpad | Meroigo, check lauchpad for bugs
[07:54] <Crozar> now im using 3daccelerator when i try to hotkey to lcd i get a middle small box screen that isnt a box but a longer box but its color is green red yellow like an old nintendo not working cartridge
[07:54] <ubotu> Meroigo, check lauchpad for bugs: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[07:54] <attackdecay> freebob has to be compiled from svn
[07:54] <Kazero> xchat! Thats the onem thanks dgjones
[07:55] <dgjones> Kazero, np
[07:55] <[nrx] > xChat, Konversation, Gaim, Kopete...
[07:55] <bhara1> hi everybody.....i don't know why but when i click on my "Shut Down" button i don't have the reboot and poweroff options....else are working fine.
[07:55] <tvrg> Crozar: you mean hot switching screens ?
[07:55] <Kazero> Didnt GAIM get renamed??
[07:55] <christina_> linux_user400354: am just rebooting to see if getting rid of GDM.  yeah, i know about editing the runlevel (i'm used to red hat) but runlevels 2-5 are all the same, it seems
[07:55] <SrPilha> ppl, what's the difference between filesystems FAT32 and FAT32(LBA) ?
[07:55] <attackdecay> and i'm also hoping to get as good a grasp as i can so that i might be able to help others in ubuntustudio get firewire audio interfaces working
[07:55] <Crozar> yes hot key in laptop works i didnt know i had to keep trying :/
[07:55] <[nrx] > Crozar: lol
[07:55] <DanielRR_Linux> Hi all I installed a (VIA chipset VT6421A) SATA / IDE controller card which Ubuntu regionizes but the IDE HDD which is connected Ubuntu dose not see. How do I fix this problem?
[07:55] <attackdecay> i'm wondering if there's an ubuntu apple chan
[07:55] <SrPilha> anybody? any hints?
[07:55] <[nrx] > !fat32
[07:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:56] <[nrx] > hm
[07:56] <Downix> SrPilha, LBA means large-block addressing, it's sed for FAT32 partitions over 8GB
[07:56] <jgomo3> astro76: Ok, that /etc/enviroment worked for customize env variebles for every users...
[07:56] <Crozar> but when accelerator disabled laptop LCD works fine with 1024 res
[07:56] <attackdecay> there really should be, if there isn't, since apples, especially macbooks, have a lot of particular functionality to be addressed
[07:56] <jgomo3> but: sudo ignore that
[07:56] <linux_user400354> christina_: you could also try removing gdm from a run level by using bum in ubuntu
[07:56] <hendrixski> I there a way to configure gnomesword for "Catholic" mode, where it still has all of the original books of the Bible that the protestant Bibles don't have?
[07:56] <vocx> attackdecay, there is a subforum on mac PCs on ubuntuforums.org
[07:57] <linux_user400354> christina_: bum=boot up manager
[07:57] <SrPilha> Downix, so I should choose LBA for a big external HD (320GB), right?
[07:57] <vocx> hendrixski, better asks the developers of that program.
[07:57] <concord_> \quit
[07:57] <Downix> hendrixski, The Protestant and Catholic bibles have the same books.  It is the Orthodox, Coptic and Gnostic faiths that have more books.
[07:57] <Kazero> Hooray!
[07:57] <Downix> SrPilha, I wouldn't use FAT32 for any drive, EXT3, JFS or ReiserFS are better in my experience
[07:58] <Crozar> ok this i think i must post in forum lo
[07:58] <Crozar> might help the dev team
[07:58] <SrPilha> Downix, I need it to be win-readable
[07:58] <Downix> SrPilha, Ok, then FAT32 LBA it is
[07:58] <SrPilha> Downix, cool, many thx
[07:58] <Downix> SrPilha, Altho I do have a JFS driver under Win2k, but it is a pain to setup
[07:58] <hendrixski> Downix, :-/ except for Baruch, Macchabies and Wisdom... which are in the Catholic Bible, the Orthodox have even more :-/
[07:59] <hendrixski> Downix, do you know how the orthodox go about modifying gnomesword?
[07:59] <Downix> hendrixski, I have those in the bible I recieved from my protestant church when I turned 5.
[07:59] <hendrixski> vocx, there's only one person on #gnomesword and they're probably asleep :-(
[07:59] <astro76> hendrixski, email them
[07:59] <hendrixski> Downix, oh... nevermind ... but then why aren't they in my gnomesword?
[07:59] <Downix> hendrixski, as I am not christian, I have not bothered with any of the bible-programs out there sad to say.
[08:00] <vocx> hendrixski, I don't mean going to the irc channel. You get better information by going to the projects page, subscribing to their mailing lists and forums.
[08:00] <hendrixski> astro76, vocx, oh... I'll do that then... thanks
[08:00] <DanielRR_Linux> Hi all I installed a (VIA chipset VT6421A) SATA / IDE controller card which Ubuntu regionizes but the IDE HDD which is connected Ubuntu dose not see. How do I fix this problem?
[08:01] <Downix> DanielRR_Linux, did your BIOS recognize the drive?
[08:01] <dgjones> hendrixski, it might be that you have to download & install some extra bible packages from the gnomesword website
[08:01] <mrga_cro> hy
[08:01] <RichardHunt> Hi, sorry to come back with this again. I have turned on indirect rendering with compiz fusion (I think, how can I check?) and still get the nvidia black window bug. What can I do? Is it possible I simply need more video memory? (I have 128mb Geforce 6200)
[08:01] <DanielRR_Linux> i do not recall will reboot and see. be back in a few
[08:02] <mrga_cro> i installed game , and i go to winefile , choose game, and game start, but than it sadi please insert original disc instead of backup
[08:02] <mrga_cro> i have original disc
[08:02] <hendrixski> dgjones, oh... right, they may have stuff that's not in the repositories :-/  lemme check... if they do I'm filing that as a bug on launchpad :-)
[08:02] <fbn> Hi, will my Netgear MA521 wireless pcmcia card work with Ubuntu Feisty?
[08:03] <mrga_cro> what should i do
[08:03] <doug__> why does it say undr CPU two users  i use this gkrellm
[08:03] <Kazero> Anyone know how I can get avant window manager to load on startup?
[08:03] <Downix> fbn:  I've had little luck with any wireless card under Linux.
[08:03] <Crozar> tvrg is theyr anyway i can start laptop with accelerator on >? when using NV like u said it works on laptop but cant use desktop effects
[08:03] <vocx> fbn, check ubuntuforums.org and the various wiki pages on wireless devices
[08:03] <Downix> Kazero:  modify your .xinitrc file
[08:03] <vocx> !wifi | fbn
[08:03] <ubotu> fbn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:03] <Kazero> Downix: Wheres that file?
[08:03] <fbn> vocx did so, and got different results - now I'm a bit confused
[08:04] <Kazero> Downix: As well, im not sure what the command to start AWM is, I always run it from toolbar
[08:04] <SrPilha> !fat32
[08:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:04] <Downix> Kazero:  in your home directory.  It allows every user on your machine to load their own window manager
[08:04] <tvrg> Crozar: desktop effects is still experimental, trying it on dual display might be pushing it :)
[08:04] <Crozar> how can it be that crt works but not lcd , maybe the output method for laptops is faster then built in directly through theyr lcd?
[08:04] <vocx> fbn, it helps if you mention which guides were you following.
[08:04] <SrPilha> !filesystems
[08:04] <ubotu> ext3 is the default fileystem in Ubuntu (and many other Linuxes). Alternative Linux filesystems include reiserfs and xfs. fat32 and ntfs are DOS/Windows filesystems. hfs and hfs+ are filesystems for the Mac. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[08:04] <Crozar> i dont want to dual it
[08:04] <tvrg> Crozar: it should work on lcd though if it works on crt
[08:04] <Crozar> how :(
[08:04] <Downix> Crazar:  Laptop LCD's lack an actual video decoder, they typically have that built into the motherboard.  Without that no LCD can work
[08:04] <Crozar> try hot key? it gives me thoise colors colors green blu ebroken colors in middle of screen
[08:05] <cetanhota> I have libdvdcss2 installed, but every time I try to watch a dvd I get an error about not having libdvdcss2 installed.
[08:05] <fbn> vocx no guides yet, I just saw that in the wiki.ubuntu.com somebody said that it wont work and in the ubuntuforums.org I saw that somebody got it working. So I was wondering what is right
[08:05] <goshohmy> libdvdcss worked fine with my computer
[08:05] <tvrg> Crozar: i'm not a compiz expert, i personally don't care for the fancy productivity-wasting effects
[08:05] <cetanhota> Thanks, thats helps.
[08:05] <bruenig> they don't waste productivity
[08:05] <maestrojed> vocx: I am not sure what a UUID thing is, can you be more specific?
[08:06] <Crozar> ok i am not thinkin for effects
[08:06] <Kazero> Anyone know the terminal command to start avant?
[08:06] <Crozar> but i want to have my laptop run on 3daccelerator not just normal
[08:06] <vocx> fbn, oh, then try to follow that thread or even ask in a private message to the author
[08:06] <Crozar> say if i want to play chess 3d mode :?
[08:06] <vocx> maestrojed, type "blkid"
[08:06] <Crozar> or zoom when presening presentation in uni :p
[08:06] <Fluffy-Wuffy> how do i edit my /boot/grub/menu.lst to choose my XP installation to autostart after the timeout?
[08:06] <RichardHunt> cetanhota: did you install libdvdcss2 this way: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh ?
[08:06] <goshohmy> fluffy-wuffy, you have to start nautilus as a root
[08:07] <vocx> maestrojed, instead of using "/dev/sda1" you use "UUID=1233-addas1-1231231-123"
[08:07] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, you can change the default argument, or you can simply move the windows section up
[08:07] <tvrg> Crozar, it appears your question can be better solved at the ubuntuforums as it might get fairly lengthy
[08:07] <tvrg> what does glxinfo say?
[08:07] <craazy> when i boot up all i see is black before the login window pops up, how do i enable the boot slpash?
[08:07] <cetanhota> RichardHunt: I pulled the package down and installed that.
[08:07] <Crozar> ya i believe so but any ways to make my laptop just run on nvidia driver like im just using now on crt just recipricalized through LCD and il just track this crt away
[08:07] <vocx> Fluffy-Wuffy, there is a line that says "default 0" just change it to "default 4" or whatever the position of WinXP is.
[08:08] <master_> hello everyone !
[08:08] <Crozar> trash not track
[08:08] <master_> I'm an ubuntu newbie
[08:08] <Fluffy-Wuffy> alright that sounds easy enough vocx, thanks
[08:08] <maestrojed> vocx: it does not show up when I type blkid (/dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 do show up.)
[08:08] <tvrg> master_ no prob
[08:08] <craazy> when i boot up all i see is black before the login window pops up, how do i enable the boot slpash?
[08:08] <Crozar> master_ trust me its a problem
[08:08] <Crozar> lo
[08:08] <master_> lol
[08:08] <vocx> maestrojed, then the drive is not connected properly or detected by the kernel. Check your cables.
[08:08] <master_> I'm loving it though !
[08:08] <tvrg> Crozar: your prob is that you have a difficult issue, even for non newbies :)
[08:09] <Crozar> im thinking of studying linux now just because it hurts when people giving u command lines like they know the mother of all
[08:09] <master_> it replaced crappy vista on my desktop
[08:09] <cetanhota> quit
[08:09] <Crozar> tvrg thank you for a nice answer
[08:09] <goshohmy> hey one simple question: where is the autostart directory in ubuntu?
[08:09] <PulsarFl> hi..I downloaded and bruned the 7.04 to a CD and attempt to install..a quick error about unable to allocate something poped up..the cd continued to access but nothing came up after that
[08:09] <maestrojed> vocx: ok but I can rwrite and read from it by going to Places>Computer>298.1 GB Volume and entering my admin password
[08:09] <PulsarFl> why might I be have problems booting?
[08:10] <vocx> maestrojed, yes, you mentioned that. Seems odd!
[08:10] <bullgard4> During every cold start Ubuntu performs a 'sanitize start'. What is the purpose of this 'sanitize start'?
[08:10] <doug__> zeeeee,  u in here?
[08:10] <bruenig> is sanitize a script in /etc/init.d?
[08:10] <zeeeee> doug__: yo
[08:10] <doug__>  How to enable Large Widescreen Support
[08:10] <doug__>     * 24/23" widescreen monitors sometimes have issues running 1920x1200.
[08:10] <doug__>     * Examples include: Dell 2405, HP 2335 or an Apple Cinema Display.
[08:10] <PulsarFl> the menu came up..and I choose the install / run ...and the allocation error appear...same thing when I choose to verify the cd...then it just went black and accessed..but nothing happened after that
[08:10] <doug__> hey zeeeee
[08:10] <bullgard4> bruenig: It is a message in dmesg.
[08:10] <Fluffy-Wuffy> this is so confusing vocx
[08:10] <doug__> zeeeee,  join me in room ##wwed
[08:10] <zeeeee> doug__: i mentioned that in my post :) i couldn't figure out what to put for the numbers
[08:11] <master_> can I ask questions in the channel ?
[08:11] <vocx> Fluffy-Wuffy, what? of course not.
[08:11] <bruenig> bullgard4, grep around in /etc/init.d maybe to see if you can find something
[08:11] <Fluffy-Wuffy> the menu.lst file
[08:11] <dgjones> hendrixski, are you still around?
[08:11] <maestrojed> vocx: Could it be that the drive I am trying to add is /dev/hda5 not /dev/sda1.  I got /dev/sda1 by looking at the connections under my SATA controller in Hardware Information.  When I did that blkid I am not sure why two drive shows up but not /dev/sda1
[08:11] <concord_> Hello... just testing
[08:11] <hendrixski> dgjones, yup
[08:11] <Crozar> the main issua tvrg is if ubuntu has options throuigh managment like in windows gettin gfx drivers has a built in software to play around settings for gl or output or split screen ect.. and ~ other thing is updating firmwares bios motherboard drivers for soundcard , no hassle because search is easier when installing is much simple and configureing is just  by looking , but in linux :/ im lost when changing resoloution its like ur planning to
[08:11] <Crozar>  host a Q3 dedicated server
[08:12] <goshohmy> concord, I'm testing too, can you read that?
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> so i change the following to the number that windows appears on the list?
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> default		0
[08:12] <Fluffy-Wuffy> ?
[08:12] <tvrg> Crozar: things are getting worked on, i know it's not perfect yet, but improving every release
[08:12] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, the counting starts from 0
[08:12] <luig> Can anyone help me to configure a LAN network between two pcs (both run ubuntu feisty)????
[08:12] <tvrg> Crozar: it's also a lot harder without vendor support (which is also improving)
[08:12] <vocx> maestrojed, /dev/hda5 is your swap partition, hda1 must be /            Also try "sudo fdisk -l" and see if it appears.
[08:13] <tvrg> Crozar: even though that doesn't solve your issue now
[08:13] <Crozar> i can stamp on ubuntu 10/10 , i cant see other operating systems
[08:13] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, so if windows is second on the list, you would change it to default 1, or you can always move windows up in the file
[08:13] <Crozar> i give linux #1 and that wat it suppose to be
[08:13] <vocx> Fluffy-Wuffy, yes. But do not paste here or I'll ban you forever!
[08:13] <luig> LAN in ubuntu?
[08:13] <luig> anyone?
[08:14] <tvrg> Crozar: this channel is way to hectic for your issue, i would post a forum thread with your hw specs, lspci & glxinfo output and xorg.conf
[08:14] <Fluffy-Wuffy> i have 5 Ubuntu options & 1 Windows so i change default: 0 to default: 6?
[08:14] <tvrg> bet you'll get better help
[08:14] <Crozar> whoa/
 LAN in ubuntu?
[08:14] <luig>  anyone?
[08:14] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, the counting starts from 0
[08:14] <tvrg> Crozar: those are just commands that output somethng that should be pasted as information
[08:14] <goshohmy> luig ive done it once
[08:14] <maestrojed> vocx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37617/  That is from fdisk
[08:14] <vocx> !repeat > luig
[08:14] <Crozar> i didnt get it tvrg those commands , id make a mockery inside the forum , i hope to think that ill sleep tonight thinking what i did so i can summurise it neatly
[08:14] <Fluffy-Wuffy> what are you talking about bruenig?
 could you help me do it?
[08:15] <Crozar> i might be just 1 step closer to linux distor as to be a linux user
[08:15] <tvrg> lspci lists pci busses (including vid card) glxinfo lists graphics info
[08:15] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, instead of 1 2 3 4 5 6, 0 1 2 3 4 5
[08:15] <goshohmy> yeah. how much have you already done?
 I'm sorry I'm to desperate
[08:15] <Fluffy-Wuffy> so Windows being the 6th option is #5?
[08:15] <luig> my mistake
[08:15] <wolferine> luig, what are you talking about
[08:15] <luig> ?
[08:15] <bruenig> Fluffy-Wuffy, indeed
[08:15] <tvrg> Crozar: try typing those in a command prompt
[08:15] <wolferine> yes, exactly, ?
[08:15] <luig> I have two computers conectec to a Huawei modem
[08:15] <goshohmy> hmmm
[08:15] <Crozar> even hw specs?
[08:16] <tvrg> lspci will show most of that
[08:16] <wolferine> luig, ask your question, in one line
[08:16] <Crozar> without sudos or nano things lo
[08:16] <luig> I want to share files between them
[08:16] <eNtRoPiA> hi :)
[08:16] <Crozar> i dont know how to get a log from a command in a good way rather then damaging files
[08:16] <goshohmy> have you set up the ip adresses right?
[08:16] <eNtRoPiA> i've a little problem
[08:16] <tvrg> sudo is for things that you need admin priviledges for, and nano is just an editor for when you're without a gui
[08:16] <eNtRoPiA> at the boot
[08:16] <wolferine> !nfs | luig
[08:16] <ubotu> luig: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:16] <vocx> maestrojed, well it appears there. Try umouting the drive and then rebooting and then trying to write the fstab again.
[08:16] <eNtRoPiA> pci cannot allocate resource of region...
[08:16] <luig> Where can i learn how to configure a LAN network between two computers that run feisty
[08:16] <tvrg> Crozar: in linux you can redirect output to a file using ">"
[08:16] <eNtRoPiA> can i solve this?
[08:17] <wolferine> luig I just gave you the link
[08:17] <Crozar> reditect what?
[08:17] <tvrg> Crozar: for example lspci > lspci.txt will generate a file lspci.txt with the output
[08:17] <tvrg> try it
[08:17] <vocx> !enter | eNtRoPiA
[08:17] <ubotu> eNtRoPiA: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:17] <maestrojed> vocx: how do I unmount the drive?
[08:17] <goshohmy> luig have you set up the ip adresses for both computers?
[08:17] <Crozar> it means  lspci & glxinfo output and xorg.conf if i do lspci > glxinfo > xorg.conf il load 3 files same time
[08:17] <tvrg> no
[08:17] <vocx> maestrojed, "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
 : i just now that the Ip is dinamic
[08:18] <PulsarFl> so ...I am getting a memory or some kind of allocation error..pops up and disappears..screen goes black...cd keeps accessing
[08:18] <PulsarFl> what could be the problem?
[08:18] <Fluffy-Wuffy> does the timeout have to be in 2 digit format?
[08:18] <tvrg> Crozar: you can do an "lspci > lspci.txt" then a "glxinfo > glxinfo.txt" and paste those to the forums, and then paste the contents of your xorg.conf to the forum
[08:18] <goshohmy> best thing is to try FIXED IP adresses
[08:18] <eNtRoPiA> tnx
[08:18] <rediz_> cant copy/move files even though logged in as sudo
[08:18] <maestrojed> vocx: it says it is not mounted
[08:18] <Fluffy-Wuffy> 05 instead of 5?
[08:18] <tvrg> Crozar: i bet there will be someone more knowledgeable about that stuff prepared to help you out
 there are just fine, the company gives me a dinamic IP
[08:18] <Crozar> after doing that nothign comes out?
[08:18] <luig> i know just a little about computers
[08:19] <Downix> Man I hate PC hardware......
[08:19] <tvrg> Crozar: yes, but now there should be a file in the same folder which contains the output
[08:19] <SrPilha> ppl, need help with an external hd
[08:19] <vocx> maestrojed, are you sure you can write to your supposedly mounted drive? I think this is all very weird.
[08:19] <Crozar> wehre are they
[08:19] <Crozar> i thought it will save auto in desktop
[08:19] <tvrg> In the folder you were typing the command in
[08:19] <SrPilha> I just used cfdisk to make its partition fat32, but it won't mount
[08:19] <greentea_> How I setup my resolution for my video card for nvida in terminal with sudo nvida setting?
[08:19] <kbrooks> OK, i'm reinstalling ubuntu. bye :-)
[08:19] <tvrg> Crozar: it autosaves in the same folder you were
[08:19] <wolferine> greentea_, in xorg.conf
[08:19] <Downix> I can successfully peak out the read/write speed on any ATA/SATA drive I've ever found
[08:19] <tvrg> Crozar: "pwd" will show you where you are (print working directory)
[08:20] <Crozar> i se
[08:20] <Crozar> in home nice
[08:20] <goshohmy> there's a little panel gadget that can display the network status, activate that
[08:20] <vocx> kbrooks, what?
[08:20] <SrPilha> message: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error
[08:20] <PulsarFl> are there any other help channels??
[08:20] <PulsarFl> you guys seem to busy to help me now
[08:20] <goshohmy> and see if your computer has already sent packages through that network
[08:20] <Crozar> i understand now
[08:20] <Crozar> the terminal is where i am
[08:20] <wolferine> PulsarFl, /join #channel
[08:20] <exs> what's the location that wget defaults to saving files?
[08:20] <tvrg> Crozar: yes, but in terminal you can navigate folders too
[08:20] <Crozar> its scary
[08:20] <vocx> PulsarFl, we are all volunteers so that's as good as it gets.
[08:20] <Crozar> i see the future
[08:20] <Crozar> but its deeper then i thought lo
[08:20] <astro76> exs, the current directory
[08:20] <goshohmy> sorry I gtg
[08:21] <wolferine> !offtopic
[08:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:21] <tvrg> Crozar: default is in home, but you could change directory "cd" to desktop too "cd Desktop" for example
[08:21] <PulsarFl> I know your volunteers
[08:21] <SrPilha> !cfdisk
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <kbrooks> question, how do i check to see if a CD is readable?
[08:21] <tvrg> Crozar: then your "working directory" would be home
[08:21] <Crozar> ouch
[08:21] <tvrg> Crozar:  euh meant desktop
[08:21] <Knight_On_White> hello , i am trying to install ubuntu on new computer and i get all the time error : /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off. plz help me
[08:21] <Crozar> i see
[08:21] <maestrojed> vocx: I too find all this strange and so has everyone else that has tried to help me.  I just went to Places>Computer>298.1 GB Volume and double clicked on it.  It asked me for my password which I entered.  It then said "Opening" for a while and now I can write and read to the drive.
[08:21] <SrPilha> ppl, any reason why cfdisk wouldn't be able to change a fs type (but believe it did)?
[08:21] <shoofle> stupid, freaking, syslinux
[08:22] <Kazero> Anyone here use avant and know how I can get it to open more than one instance of a program?
[08:22] <vocx> SrPilha, use GParted instead.
[08:22] <doug__> Crozar,  yes the term is scary at first but when u get the hang of it it is very powerful and fun
[08:22] <tvrg> Crozar: put the time in to get used to it, it'll definetly be worth it
[08:22] <shoofle> every time I run it on this one usb drive, it screws up the partition table, so that it's filled with partitions that start and end at ridiculous places
[08:22] <maestrojed> vocx: maybe what I just did (putting in my password) mounted it.  I could try to unmount it again.
[08:22] <shoofle> and is not booting at all.
[08:22] <shoofle> anyone know why?
[08:22] <concord_> Anyone have a recommendation for the best IRC Chat program?
[08:22] <tvrg> concord_: xchat
[08:22] <Crozar> i beleive so
[08:22] <gordonjcp> concord_: irssi and screen
[08:22] <shoofle> echo gordonjcp
[08:23] <bruenig> !best | concord_
[08:23] <ubotu> concord_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:23] <wolferine> !best
[08:23] <phoenix> Hi, I have the problem when I am going to install ubuntu on my laptop.
[08:23] <phoenix> It output something like this: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@...
[08:23] <gordonjcp> concord_: "best" is a very difficult thing to pin down
[08:23] <phoenix> I use the 7.04 ubuntu, the laptop is lenovo thinkpad t61
[08:23] <phoenix> Anyone know how to fix it? I want to install ubuntu ASAP.
[08:23] <Crozar> but xorg.conf cant be written as .txt
[08:23] <vocx> maestrojed, I would turn off the PC, unplug the drive and try again.
[08:23] <What_the_Deuce> Hi all. anyone have Ubuntu on an HP pavillion, 6000 series. I'm having trouble loading up the live cd, and the only reason i can think of is because it has a SATA hdd
[08:23] <vocx> !enter | phoenix
[08:23] <ubotu> phoenix: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:23] <Crozar> xorg.conf > xorg.conf.txt
[08:23] <Ar-Pharazon> Hello, I was following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976 but it doesn't seem to work.
[08:23] <tvrg> Crozar xorg.conf is already a text file
[08:23] <concord_> I'm using xchat for the first time.  Not used much else.  I can stick with this if it's good enough.
[08:23] <tvrg> > is for redirecting command output to a text file
[08:23] <Crozar> ok how to make a copy of it?
[08:23] <phoenix> sorry for the multiline
[08:24] <Ar-Pharazon> I set displaysize as it said but grep output is still not 96x96
[08:24] <wolferine> Crozar, might want to do some basic reading about linux *hint**hint*
[08:24] <concord_> Thanks folks.  I'll stick with xchat it has some nice features.
[08:24] <eNtRoPiA> and for this ldconfig deferred processing now taking plac??
[08:24] <tvrg> Crozar: "cat" prints a text file, if you want a copy you could either "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf > xorg.txt" or just "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.txt" (cp is just copy)
[08:24] <Crozar> i knwo i must be in same folder of xorg
[08:24] <vocx> !away > tabris|away
[08:24] <Crozar> before i can open it through terminal
[08:24] <kbrooks> aight bbl for real, bye.
[08:24] <Crozar> but WERE THE !!! IS THOSE FOLDERS LO
[08:24] <greentea_> wolferine is it sudo nvidia xorg.conf?
[08:25] <wolferine> Crozer you dont have to be in them
[08:25] <maestrojed> vocx: Okay I will.  Maybe I should have mentioned this before.  This drive is a SATA HD connected through a SATA Contoller installed as a PCI card (my motherboard does not support SATA).  Would that change anything.  The Raid controller shows up fine in Hardware manager and since I can see the drive in certain ways I did not think it was the connection.
[08:25] <wolferine> greentea_, sorry?
[08:25] <greentea_> wolferine is it sudo nvidia xorg.conf?
[08:25] <jamescarr_> hey
[08:25] <Crozar> the files of xorg ? and stuff in windows i will know all stuff is in C : / nvidia or C:/ sound or C:...
[08:25] <jamescarr_> what was it I needed to install to get bluetooth enabled?
[08:25] <wolferine> greentea_, im sorry, I cannot help you
[08:25] <jamescarr_> I forget
[08:25] <phoenix> Hi, I have the problem when I am going to install ubuntu on my laptop.It output something like this: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@...I use the 7.04 ubuntu, the laptop is lenovo thinkpad t61
[08:25] <greentea_> wolferine y not?
[08:25] <tvrg> Crozar: c: is / in linux, and everything is under /
[08:25] <Crozar> how to get the root dir for them u know the names for them
[08:25] <SpeakerMania> What is the package name for Beryl Emerald?
[08:25] <tvrg> Crozar: / is just "filesystem" in the file manager
[08:25] <Crozar> tell me how u know w hich is priority
[08:25] <wolferine> greentea_, you are making it difficult
[08:26] <Downix> s there any chipset out there that won't choke out on a 4GB file transfer?
[08:26] <cables> SpeakerMania: emerald i think
[08:26] <greentea_> ...
[08:26] <vocx> maestrojed, of course you should have mentioned that and I figured it you had something strange. I haven't used any RAID stuff.
[08:26] <SrPilha> vocx, where do I find GParted in ubuntu? or else: what's its name to call it from a terminal?
[08:26] <SpeakerMania> cables: I tried that, and no one is answering on #ubuntu-effects
[08:26] <vocx> !info gparted | SrPilha
[08:26] <ubotu> srpilha: gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 316 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[08:26] <Crozar> so i better do this /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:26] <Knight_On_White> hello , i am trying to install ubuntu on new computer and i get all the time error : /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off. plz help me
[08:26] <wolferine> Crozar, get to the point, what are you trying to do ?
[08:26] <Crozar> it will load what i want but how to have that file saved to desktop so i can do my essay for the forums
[08:26] <maestrojed> vocx: I said raid I just ment SATA.  This is not Raid(ed)
[08:26] <wolferine> !enter | Crozar
[08:26] <ubotu> Crozar: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:27] <PulsarFl> let me ask just one question
[08:27] <phoenix> White, I have the same problem with you
[08:27] <tvrg> Crozar: i would just do "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and copy paste that
[08:27] <maestrojed> vocx: sorry for not mentioning it
[08:27] <tvrg> wolferine: copy xorg.conf to the forum
[08:27] <PulsarFl> this error pops up..when I click to begin running the live cd..or checking integrity
[08:27] <PulsarFl> but it goes away..how can I view the error?
[08:27] <wolferine> tvrg, sorry ?
[08:27] <concord_> SrPilha_  you have to do a "sudo gparted" to start it from a terminal
[08:27] <What_the_Deuce> Live CD won't load on HP dv6101eu. "ata drive 1 too slow to respond"?
[08:27] <Ar-Pharazon> Can anyone please help me with this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[08:27] <tvrg> wolferine: he tries to copy xorg.conf and glxinfo output etc to a forum post
[08:27] <SrPilha> vocx, ok thx
[08:27] <Crozar> i want to learn these gedit and sudo nano stuff what it stand for but i know what each do lo
[08:27] <wolferine> tvrg, he?
[08:27] <PulsarFl> does the pause key work in the installer?
[08:28] <tvrg> Crozar: gedit and nano are both editors, sudo is for when you want to save a file you need admin priv's for
[08:28] <vocx> maestrojed, search the forums or internet for "SATA on pci" or something like that. I assume your motherboard is a bit old because it doesn't support SATA.
[08:28] <maestrojed> vocx: I will and you are correct.  I will keep playing around and I appreciate your help
[08:28] <Crozar> ok i saved these 3 stuff u told me
[08:29] <Crozar> i think il go to ubuntu forums tommorow when i get my stuff straightend out for the question i hope i be helping solve many other issues too ...
[08:29] <tvrg> Crozar, now make a forum post explaining your issue in detail and also containing the 3 files you have now, that will help people understand what the issue is
[08:29] <Crozar> Hail Ubuntu Hail HAIL UbuntU
[08:29] <tvrg> Crozar: lol
[08:29] <vocx> Crozar, and use good grammar and spelling when asking for help in the forums, thank you.
[08:29] <tvrg> and don't worry
[08:30] <tvrg> Crozar: I know it's a lot to learn at first, don't worry if you don't get every detail the first time
[08:30] <rediz_>  sudo tar xvf/home/rediz/software/ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/ :getmessage tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
[08:30] <tvrg> you'll learn
[08:30] <Kilroo> I seem to be missing a great lot of various .h files that Mesa wants to include, and I can't figure out why...I got this working on my previous installation. Anyone have an idea?
[08:30] <greentea_> wolferine Sudo nvidia-settings
[08:30] <tvrg> Crozar: at least you show the right attitude trying to solve stuff and not complaining rightaway
[08:30] <greentea_> wolferine this is the one i'm looking for...
[08:31] <wolferine> greentea_, what language do you speek ?
[08:31] <Downix> so nobody can suggest a chipset/mobo to look at?
[08:31] <Chousuke> rediz_: you forgot a space
[08:31] <Chousuke> rediz_: and z
[08:31] <BleedingMoon> Hlp?
[08:31] <greentea_> wolferine Cantonese
[08:31] <alecwh> How do I kill processes that are running in the background?
[08:31] <tvrg> Crozar: also the reason ppl tell you to enter commands is because it's faster in here to just say "type xx file" than to start explaining click here, then there, then look for that and try to check this etc
[08:31] <greentea_> wolferine Why?
[08:31] <BleedingMoon> HELP?
[08:32] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: What are we supposed to help you with?
[08:32] <vocx> !please | BleedingMoon
[08:32] <ubotu> BleedingMoon: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[08:32] <wolferine> !jp | greentea_
[08:32] <ubotu> greentea_:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[08:32] <Chousuke> not jp :P
[08:32] <Chousuke> !zh
[08:32] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:32] <wolferine> thanks Chousuke
[08:32] <BleedingMoon> Chousuke: im searchin good c complier for linux, and how to install it
[08:32] <rediz_> when i use with space i get: tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:32] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:33] <Crozar> =oP
[08:33] <alecwh> what is the command to view processes in the background, and also killing them?
[08:33] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: installs gcc and some basic libraries
[08:33] <tvrg> Crozar: soon you'll be in here helping other people
[08:33] <jamescarr_> Hi: I want to sync data files from my bluetooth enabled phone to my laptop... I can see my laptop from my phone, but uit doesnt list any services
[08:33] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: and headers
[08:33] <BleedingMoon> what headers?
[08:33] <jamescarr_> how can I enable a bluetooth service to let me push files to my laptop?
[08:33] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: libc and kernel I think
[08:33] <BleedingMoon> explain XD
[08:33] <tvrg> BleedingMoon: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[08:33] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: just the bare minimum needed to compile stuff.
[08:33] <Crozar> id need coffee maybe 2 Jars
[08:34] <BleedingMoon> tvrg: its running atm
[08:34] <BleedingMoon> 50%
[08:34] <doug__> BleedingMoon,  still not working?
[08:34] <act1v8> What is a good Audio player for Gnome that has excellent support for Podcasts?
[08:34] <BleedingMoon> doug__: the flash running but myspace dont running well
[08:34] <tvrg> act1v8: rhythmbox
[08:34] <EbilPhish> act1v8:  Exaile, Banshee
[08:34] <BleedingMoon> im searchin c complier now
[08:34] <Ignite> act1v8, rhythmbox
[08:34] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: you need to install additional headers and libraries depending on the requirements of the apps you want to compile
[08:35] <act1v8> thanks all
[08:35] <BleedingMoon> Chousuke: how im doing that?
[08:35] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: with aptitude
[08:35] <BleedingMoon> im n00b :\
[08:35] <jonathan_> Is there a way to install ruby 1.8.6 from the repos?
[08:35] <BleedingMoon> its says nothing to me
[08:35] <Chousuke> Why do you need a C compiler if you're a newbie? :/
[08:35] <BleedingMoon> in newbie with linux
[08:35] <vocx> BleedingMoon, programming is a heavy issue. If you are going to learn programming you need to be patient and do your homework.  The subforum in ubuntuforums.org is good, but you still need to read a lot.
[08:35] <BleedingMoon> :\
[08:36] <wolferine> Chousuke, or why are they looking for answers on irc :)
[08:36] <BleedingMoon> im programing about 3-5 years
[08:36] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: well, you can install packages with aptitude
[08:36] <What_the_Deuce> Is there an issue with the ubuntu live cd and SATA hard drives, because 2 pcs with SATA hard drives won't load the Live CD?
[08:36] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: read aptitude's manual page
[08:36] <wolferine> BleedingMoon, google: 'ubuntu guide'
[08:36] <wolferine> that should get you started
[08:36] <BleedingMoon> k
[08:37] <vocx> What_the_Deuce, I think more people with SATA drives do not have problems than those that have.
[08:37] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: for example, if you wanted the headers for some libfoo that is in the repositories, the header package is usually called libfoo-dev. you would usually use "aptitude install libfoo-dev" to install it
[08:38] <What_the_Deuce> vocx: how strange, I updated the BIOS on the HP laptop in question, so, i can't thik what the problem might be.
[08:38] <rediz_> chousuke is this right: sudo tar xvf /home/rediz/software/ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/
[08:38] <phoenix> Hi, I have the problem when I am going to install ubuntu on my laptop.It output something like this: PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:20000@...I use the 7.04 ubuntu, the laptop is lenovo thinkpad t61
[08:38] <BleedingMoon> Chousuke: there is no complete compler like vc++?
[08:38] <Chousuke> rediz_: you need xvzf
[08:38] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: gcc is a complete compiler
[08:39] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: you just need headers to use libraries, just like with VC++
[08:39] <BleedingMoon> Chousuke: how i download gcc?
[08:39] <BleedingMoon> there is direct command?
[08:39] <Chousuke> BleedingMoon: we already told you.
[08:39] <Flannel> BleedingMoon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:39] <Ignite> BleedingMoon, do you mean an IDE (Integrated Development Environment) like Visual Studio?
[08:39] <BleedingMoon> indid
[08:39] <Ignite> BleedingMoon, try KDevelop or Anjuta DevStudio.
[08:39] <vocx> Chousuke, BleedingMoon Ignite if you want to talk alot about programming you may move to #ubuntu-programming so you don't flood this channel. Thank you.
[08:40] <Chousuke> vocx: this is not related to programming directly.
[08:40] <Chousuke> meh, bad word order :(
[08:40] <BleedingMoon> Ignite: what is better? kdevelop or anjuta devstudio?
[08:41] <rediz_> chousuke now get: /usr/share/xmms/Skins: Not found in archive
[08:41] <Ignite> BleedingMoon, it all depends on personal preference really. I prefer KDevelop, but if you want an IDE that better integrates with GNOME than Anjuta would probably be a better choice.
[08:41] <Chousuke> rediz_: ah, hm, right.
[08:41] <alecwh> how do I view processes using the terminal?
[08:41] <Chousuke> rediz_: the target path isn't part of the command
[08:41] <Ignite> alecwh, "top".
[08:41] <Chousuke> rediz_: cd to the target dir first
[08:42] <gnomefreak> alecwh: ps aux
[08:42] <Chousuke> rediz_: then use tar to extract the .tar.gz
[08:42] <rediz_> chousuke thanks
[08:42] <alecwh> ok, cool. How do I "kill" processes?
[08:42] <Chousuke> alecwh: with kill
[08:42] <Chousuke> kill <pid>
[08:42] <gnomefreak> kill -9 processid
[08:42] <donferna> alecwh, killall -9 'proccessname'
[08:42] <Chousuke> where pid is the process ID
[08:42] <Myrtti> pkill, xkill
[08:42] <Chousuke> ...
[08:42] <Chousuke> no!
[08:42] <alecwh> thanks.
[08:42] <Chousuke> why is everyone obsessed with kill -9
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: not obsessed it works
[08:43] <Myrtti> 'cause that's what they've learned
[08:43] <Chousuke> please, don't automatically recommend it.
[08:43] <Chousuke> killall is bad too
[08:43] <Chousuke> and killall -9 is just evil
[08:43] <vocx> Chousuke, people remember it more than -15
[08:43] <BleedingMoon> Ignite: i got amd64 bit and i dont c any supported versions on the download page
[08:43] <kkathman> kill -9 is just fine as long as you dont sudo :)
[08:43] <kkathman> heh
[08:43] <Chousuke> vocx: you can just leave it out.
[08:43] <gnomefreak> kill -9 not killall -9
[08:43] <nick4> kill them all :P
[08:43] <Chousuke> kill -9 is overkill in most cases
[08:43] <gnomefreak> kkathman: there is noting wrong with it as user at all
[08:44] <Chousuke> and just kill is safer
[08:44] <kkathman> gnomefreak:  yep agree
[08:44] <nick4> Chousuke, an overkill? Pun intented?
[08:44] <Ignite> BleedingMoon, use the package manager for KDevelop. You will probably have to install from source for Anjuta DevStudio though, because only the old version is in the repositories.
[08:44] <Chousuke> nick4: slightly.
[08:44] <PulsarFl> ok...the error I am getting is something about PCF and failed to allocate mem
[08:44] <PulsarFl> I can't read the whole thing / PCF above is PCI
[08:44] <Chousuke> nick4: I couldn't think of any other way to put it
[08:44] <BleedingMoon> Ignite: thx
[08:44] <Chousuke> but it is *literally* overkill
[08:44] <PulsarFl> this happens about 2 seconds after I press enter once the CD strarts to boot up
[08:44] <kkathman> gnomefreak:  especially considering the nature of Opera and Firefox to run away with CPU and hang up
[08:45] <Chousuke> and killall -9 can do evil things. :P
[08:45] <PulsarFl> I tried burning the CD again slower..using my second optical drive to load...etc
[08:45] <gnomefreak> kkathman: thats right
[08:45] <nick4> Chousuke: an example of an evil thing?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: its only overkill if you use it wrong, imagine mem leak kill -9 works best
[08:45] <assasukasse> z3us: ue
[08:46] <PulsarFl> The error is similar to this PCI: Failed to allocate mem ressource #10:2000000@0 for 0000:02:01.0
[08:46] <PulsarFl> then the installer hangs
[08:46] <Kilroo> When I try to compile Mesa 7.0.1 I am getting a lot of errors about missing .h files it's trying to include. I get some similar errors when I make realclean, mostly to do with stddef.h. With what seems to be Mesa 7.1 I got fewer such errors, and was actually able to get it installed...I think...but I seem to be stuck on OpenGL 1.3 instead of 2.1. Can anyone point me in the right direction here?
[08:46] <maestrojed> vocx: I have been trying things.  I have updated /etc/fstab and loaded gparted to look at the drive.  I see the mount point listed as the one I specified in /etc/fstab but it is grayed out.  If I click on it I can choose to mount it but then I get an error "Could not mount  Mount point does not exist"  Is there anything I have to do to create that mount point (besides what I added to /etc/fstab)? Could this be a permissions thing?
[08:47] <Chousuke> nick4: well, I suppose it's not a problem on desktop systems
[08:47] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: and until there is a concrete reason to not use it, it is unknown to cause issues, if you would like to disscuss this more please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:47] <Kilroo> For the record, I had Mesa 7.0.1 working with DRI before, but I had to reinstall because I fouled something up trying the latest fglrx.
[08:47] <Chousuke> but I still think it's a bad habit
[08:47] <Chousuke> and what if you have multiple instances of the same process?
[08:47] <rediz_> chousuke wont let me cd /usr/share/xmms/skins
[08:47] <Chousuke> rediz_: does the dir exist?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: that is the point of using it.
[08:47] <vocx> maestrojed, oh, the mount point needs to be manually created, that is "sudo mkdir /media/mydrive"   I assume you've done this already.
[08:48] <Chousuke> rediz_: remember, it's case sensitive
[08:48] <Chousuke> gnomefreak: you don't want to killall bash :P
[08:48] <rediz_> chousuke will let me cd /usr/share/xmms
[08:48] <gnomefreak> and using pid will only kill that one pid
[08:48] <maestrojed> vocx: I had not :) I will do that and reboot
[08:48] <gnomefreak> notice not process name
[08:48] <Chousuke> yeah, that's what you should usually do
[08:48] <shamik> hi, i installed kde in ubuntu
[08:48] <gnomefreak> Chousuke: that is what i advised
[08:49] <doug__> how do i make emerald theme start up at boot up ? i asked in #ubuntu-effects but no one answerd
[08:49] <Chousuke> but -9 is still evil ;P
[08:49] <jamescarr_> hey
[08:49] <jamescarr_> i need some help with bluetooth please
[08:49] <shamik>  hi, i installed kde in ubuntu but after staring a new session with kde i cant feel any difference can you pls help
[08:49] <vocx> !doesnt work | jamescarr_
[08:49] <ubotu> jamescarr_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:49] <Ignite> Just a note for those of you using "kill". You can also terminate processes using the GNOME System Monitor. Go to System -> Administration -> System Monitor. Navigate to the "Processes" tab, select the process you wish to terminate and click the "End Process" button.
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Ignite: kind of hard to do that in anything but gnome, try server install
[08:51] <jamescarr_> vocx, I never said anything didn't work
[08:51] <jamescarr_> I just need some help with my bluetooth stuff... I can see my laptop from my phone now, but no services are offered even though I have that bluetooth filesharing app running (which, ironically, doesnt give me an option of where sent files are saved)
[08:51] <jamescarr_> when I connect to it from my phone, no services are listed
[08:51] <mindrape> I am bored... anybody know of any cool programs/projects that I could peruse?
[08:51] <Ignite> gnomefreak, but for those that are using GNOME, it's easier.
[08:51] <faraaz> umm...hello
[08:51] <doug__> mindrape join mein ##wwed i got something for u
[08:51] <cyberphaz> graphical interface for 7zip? :P
[08:51] <jamescarr_> sigh
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Ignite: reason we advise cli way is because if a process is running amuk with mem the gui way may take forever if at all open but you are correct sometimes its easier that way
[08:52] <rediz_> got in dir
[08:52] <faraaz> does anyone know how to set up seamless windows in VirtualBox on Feisty?
[08:52] <Ignite> mindframe, if you're a programmer I've found a program called "Straw" today, it has some bugs that need fixing. Alternatively "Battle for Wesnoth" is a fun turn-based strategy game. :-)
[08:52] <vocx> jamescarr_, don't pay too much attention to the factions, some of them are not accurate. Either way I don't know a thing about bluetooth.
[08:52] <faraaz> using v1.5
[08:52] <faraaz> ?
[08:52] <Ignite> mindrape,* if you're a programmer I've found a program called "Straw" today, it has some bugs that need fixing. Alternatively "Battle for Wesnoth" is a fun turn-based strategy game. :-)
[08:53] <vocx> Ignite, no need to mention the whole post again just the corrected nickname.
[08:53] <maestrojed> vocx:  Success! :) that was the problem.
[08:53] <Ignite> gnomefreak, that's true, but there is also the myth that "Linux" is difficult to use that needs to be debunked.
[08:53] <vocx> maestrojed, happy happy joy joy!
[08:53] <rediz_>  Child returned status 2
[08:53] <rediz_> tar: /usr/share/xmms/Skins: Not found in archive
[08:53] <z3us> assasukasse......
[08:54] <assasukasse> z3us: leggo
[08:54] <Ignite> vocx, sorry, I rationalised that he may not have found the post by the time he looked because it's busy in here. If his name was in the post he could easily find it as most clients highlight messages mentioning their nick.
[08:54] <maestrojed> vocx:  :) thank you so much.  I am now going to ask the room for some help setting it up as drive that can be shared to other computers.  I figured you might need a break from me :)  Thanks again
[08:54] <vocx> maestrojed, that'll be $100 thank you.
[08:54] <Bozza_> guys i get the problem . You do not have permissions to write to this folder. . when i try and write things to a usb disk
[08:54] <Budwaa> For some reason i can no longer browse samba shares on my network. It suggests it is maybe a firewall issue but this is not the case. Any ideas?
[08:54] <faraaz> um, hello everyone...I'm hoping someone can help me set up a Seamless Windows installation on Ubuntu 7.04 using VirtualBox 1.5...
[08:54] <Ignite> Bozza_, is the write protect switch on?
[08:54] <maestrojed> vocx:  Pass me your bank account number, pin number, ss # and I will be sure to make that deposit
[08:54] <rediz_>  sudo tar xvzf /home/rediz/software/Ultraclean_colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/
[08:54] <Bozza_> nope
[08:55] <z3us> in pvt nn mi leggi?
[08:55] <Bozza_> its a usb hard disk
[08:55] <vocx> Ignite, of course.
[08:55] <Bozza_> ignite .. i used to use the usb harddisk on windows
[08:55] <Bozza_> and i want to put on a few files for my bro
[08:55] <rediz_>  Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:55] <rediz_> tar: Child returned status 2
[08:55] <spiderworm> does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a flash/usb drive as if it were a hard drive?
[08:55] <vocx> maestrojed, you an help by donating to any open source project on sourceforge.net. I suggest ndiswrapper.
[08:56] <faraaz> @spiderworm: Feisty?
[08:56] <spiderworm> faraaz, yes
[08:56] <spiderworm> or the other one thats coming out, whatever its called :)
[08:56] <faraaz> try out this link: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/ubuntu-feisty-on-your-usb-drive-finally/
[08:57] <faraaz> Ubuntu Edgy works off a pendrive, but Feisty is tricky...
[08:57] <maestrojed> vocx: will do, I will check out ndiswrapper.  I am a big proponent of opensource even if my linux knowledge is lacking.  I support and push the OLPC program in every situation I can.
[08:57] <spiderworm> thank you faraaz ... helpful link
[08:57] <phoenixz> I just created another 20GB partition as ext3 and I want to permanently use it as /home/user/music... How can I easily  have this drive always automatically mount like that at startup?
[08:58] <vocx> spiderworm, I've read that it is possible as long as the BIOS can boot from USB devices. But do follow faraaz advice.
[08:58] <faraaz> does anyone here know how to get Windows working seamlessly in Ubuntu through VirtualBox?
[08:58] <BleedingMoon> how i complie with KDevelop
[08:58] <maestrojed> I have a HD on my ubuntu machine. I am trying to build a "file server" for my small office.  What do I need to do to share this drive.  Permissions on the drive?  Do I need to open up any ports or anything?
[08:59] <NemesisD> hi all, i'm having some difficulties sshing to a server at work, it gives me almost exactly 2:45-3 mins of time to work and then ill get connection reset by peer, did a tcp dump, shows its sending RST packet, any ideas?
[08:59] <wastrel> i have ubuntu
[08:59] <spiderworm> vocx, do not follow faraaz's advice?? why not?
[09:00] <spiderworm> oh sorry i read that wrong vocx
[09:00] <vocx> spiderworm, no problemo
[09:00] <aleka> Is it possible to share local files with a guest OS in VmWare
[09:00] <rediz_> :/usr/share/xmms/Skins$ sudo tar xvzf /home/rediz/software/UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins
[09:00] <vocx> spiderworm, also check the forums. I'd read "official" documentation first before going to random blogs.
[09:01] <faraaz> @aleka: have you tried setting it up in Windows as a network drive?? I use VirtualBox
[09:01] <rediz_> getsError exit delayed from previous errors
[09:01] <faraaz> @vocx: It works for me...
[09:01] <faraaz> @aleka: and it is possible to do what you say in VirtualBox...but I assume the same is true of VMWare also
[09:01] <aleka> faraaz: Network places under windows was not bringing anything up
[09:01] <Budwaa> How does samba locate windows computers on a network?
[09:01] <faraaz> @aleka: no no no...
[09:02] <bruenig> magic
[09:02] <dstadulis> I have an external hard drive that I need to use but when I turn it on it does not show up, So I guess that I need to mount it. how do I know what device to mount when using the mount command.  Should I use lsusb to identify it?
[09:02] <lucky_geer> hello i have been trying for a few weekends to get a RAID 5 system going and hit some huge road blocks
[09:02] <Ar-Pharazon> Hello, can someone explain GPG keys to me?
[09:02] <BleedingMoon> Chousuke, Ignite: can u come to #ubuntu-programming
[09:03] <atrocity2001> I've been having trouble with 7.04 either not seeing my external firewire HD or showing it twice.  I got to 7.04 via automatic upgrade from 6.10 and was considering a clean install, but I just booted from a 7.04 CD and I'll be darned if the external drive isn't showing twice already.  Is 7.04 just bad for external firewire drives?  Never had a problem 6.06 or 6.10.
[09:03] <ibara> rediz: you don't need the paths, just sudo tar xvzf UltraClean_UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz
[09:03] <lucky_geer> anyone know which channel to get help on this issue
[09:03] <ibara> rediz: make sure you copied the file to the directory where you are extracting it
[09:03] <faraaz> @aleka: check ur pm
[09:03] <astro76> !gpg | Ar-Pharazon
[09:03] <ubotu> Ar-Pharazon: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[09:03] <Budwaa> dstadulis: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id
[09:03] <Andex> Anyone know anything about auditd
[09:03] <bruenig> !anyone
[09:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:04] <aleka> faraaz: I didn't get a pm... is your nick reg'd?
[09:04] <faraaz> ugh
[09:04] <faraaz> i dont think it is
[09:04] <faraaz> 1 min
[09:04] <aleka> :)
[09:04] <faraaz> @aleka: faraaz> hi
 you need to set up your network drive...
 does VMWare have shared folders, or some similar feature?
 that's what its called in VirtualBo
[09:04] <lucky_geer> anyone know about a channel for doing software raids?
[09:04] <Budwaa> So what does samba use to locate windows share on a network?
[09:05] <THAiSi> Hi where do I need to go for questions about installing tomcat on ubuntu? posts on the forum didn't work for me
[09:05] <spiderworm> faraaz, do you know if gutsy will be easier to install on a flash drive?  if so i might just wait until it comes out next month?
[09:05] <wastrel> Budwaa:  broadcasts queries onto the network or talks to a netbios browse master
[09:05] <wastrel> something like that.  i don't really understand windows networking
[09:05] <faraaz> @spiderworm: no idea about gutsy...
[09:05] <Budwaa> netbios browser would be some networked name server?
[09:05] <faraaz> you might want to check out the forums though
[09:06] <wastrel> netbios browse master is a machine that is responsible for collecting info about available shares on the network, it's not a nameserver
[09:07] <dstadulis> Budwaa: thanks working on it now
[09:07] <Budwaa> dstadulis: np
[09:07] <Budwaa> dstadulis: you want to mount devname-part1 or w/e partition remember
[09:08] <rediz_> chousuke what is tar command mean
[09:08] <raknam> why is the terminal so different in the new gutsy tribe 5 that i just installed?
[09:08] <faraaz> @rediz: tar extracts files ... sorta like zip
[09:08] <faraaz> or winzip in Windows
[09:08] <wastrel> gusty questions in #ubuntu+1
[09:08] <dstadulis> Budwaa: what's the difference between the generic id and -part1 ?
[09:08] <vocx> rediz_, read "man tar" for full usage. Tape Archive Recorder?
[09:09] <wastrel> debian doesn't have a full man page for tar
[09:09] <wastrel> you have to find it onlie
[09:09] <wastrel> online
[09:09] <Budwaa> dstadulis: one points to the device node which is the root of the drive, i.e the first byte. part1 points to the first partition. If you write to the generic id you will destroy your mbr partition tables etc. It likely wouldnt mount anyhow.
[09:10] <Bozza_> whats the ubuntu root password
[09:10] <astro76> !root | Bozza_
[09:10] <ubotu> Bozza_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:10] <dstadulis> Budwaa: yeah it asked me to identify the filessystem
[09:10] <aleka> faraaz: If I install VirtualBox, do you think it will be able to create its image on an NTFS drive mounted using ntfs-3g?
[09:10] <aleka> VMWARE was not able to do that
[09:10] <rediz_> what is tar command
[09:10] <Bozza_> huh
[09:11] <Bozza_> so how do i log into root ? .. and i am not talking about sudo in the terminal
[09:11] <Knight_On_White> taked from ubuntu forum "I found that adding pci=noapci to the boot prompt solved the problem" what are the steps for doing that ?
[09:11] <Anlar> aleka: I bet vmware people had a reason for that.. :)
[09:11] <Budwaa> dstadulis: you tried to mount the root of the drive or when u tried to mount one of the partitions?
[09:11] <Bozza_> !root
[09:11] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:11] <astro76> Bozza_, read the bottom of the page at the link you were given
[09:11] <dstadulis> Budwaa: sudo mount sdf1 /USB_DRIVE
[09:11] <Discerer> how can I share folders between the windows installation that is running the wm server and the ubuntu inside it?
[09:12] <aleka> Anlar:  My issue is, I have limited space on my ext3 [/]  partition and a lot more space on the NTFS... not sure if I can re-partition the NTFS wihtout having to defragment it through windows
[09:12] <dstadulis> originally I just tried to mount sdf which is not the part1 id
[09:12] <Budwaa> dstadulis: /dev/sdf1
[09:12] <vocx> rediz_, are you paying attention? "tar is a command to pack things in an archive" Read the manual page "man tar"
[09:13] <dgjones> Knight_On_White, are you talking about on the livecd or an installed copy of ubuntu?
[09:13] <dstadulis> Budwaa: I ran the mount line in the dev folder
[09:13] <smarticus> how do i create a new desktop in gnome?
[09:13] <cookie_> hello everybody
[09:13] <smarticus> i can't find the option in gnome
[09:13] <cookie_> how do I find my router ip
[09:13] <Budwaa> dstadulis: ok, what partition type? NTFS FAT32 etc?
[09:13] <cookie_> ?
[09:14] <dstadulis> Budwaa: still shows me the same: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[09:14] <Anlar> aleka: the performance will be horrible even if you manage to get it running, ntfs-3g is really bad on some spots
[09:14] <wastrel> smarticus:  right-click the workspace switcher applet in the panel, choose preferences
[09:14] <rediz_> :/usr/share/xmms/Skins$ sudo tar xvzf /home/rediz/software/UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/Skins/ : get /usr/share/xmms/Skins: Not found in archive
[09:14] <Budwaa> dstadulis: you need to find out what the partition type is then specifiy it with the -t option when you run mount
[09:14] <faraaz> @aleka, sorry I was gone for a bit...uhhh...IMO it is not a good idea
[09:14] <smarticus> wastrel: yeah thats what i thought... something is missing
[09:14] <faraaz> as Anlar said, it willl be slow
[09:14] <faraaz> not HORRIBLY slow, but slow none the less
[09:14] <wastrel> smarticus:  are you using compiz/desktop effects?
[09:14] <aleka> Anlar: I guess that is the only game in town, or was the only stable ntfs driver when I decided to use it a while back
[09:14] <cookie_> hey, how do I find my router's ip?
[09:15] <rediz_> got it right case sensetive but still wont do it
[09:15] <faraaz> of course, if making a new partition, or repartitioning your  hard drive is not an option
[09:15] <faraaz> go for it...
[09:15] <smarticus> wastrel: yeah
[09:15] <cookie_> hey guys, how do I find my router's ip, pls tell me
[09:15] <cookie_> ?
[09:15] <faraaz> of course, in VirtualBox, as of 1.5, the software supports seamless integration into the Host OS ALSO...
[09:15] <faraaz> which is pretty awesome
[09:15] <wastrel> smarticus:  that makes things a bit goofy.  set the number of desktops to 1 and you will get 4 with compiz
[09:15] <rediz_> soz for been dumb newbie
[09:16] <faraaz> @cookie: go to this web page: http://www.lawrencegoetz.com/programs/ipinfo/
[09:16] <aleka> faraaz: If I only have 3GB space left on my / partition, I guess virtualbox will try and create another 2GB for windows which would leave me with only 1GB
[09:16] <faraaz> it will give u the ip
[09:16] <vocx> rediz_, if you are already in the directory just do "sudo tar xvzf /home/rediz/software/UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz"
[09:16] <cookie_> thanks
[09:16] <faraaz> that is true
[09:16] <IndyGunFreak> cookie_: you can also put this in a terminal and it will tell you the info..   wget -q -O - http://www.whatismyip.org
[09:16] <faraaz> ugh
[09:17] <faraaz> i'd say you should decide
[09:17] <EJ> \\'elcome ack Seeker_
[09:17] <faraaz> are you going to be using it so much that the loss of speed is a huge issue? if not, just go ahead and install the VBox and use your NTFS drive
[09:17] <PriceChild> !l33t | EJ
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l33t - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <faraaz> if it is...then you knw what you must do...
[09:17] <PriceChild> !leet | EJ
[09:17] <ubotu> EJ: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[09:17] <faraaz> anyway
[09:17] <faraaz> i'm off for dinner
[09:17] <faraaz> best of luck
[09:17] <aleka> faraaz: If Virtualbox could use the NTFS partition, that would be awsome...
[09:17] <cookie_> well, I need my ROUTER'S IP
[09:17] <faraaz> it probably can
[09:18] <IndyGunFreak> cookie_: ok.
[09:18] <faraaz> but you will have to try to access it through /media/sda1
[09:18] <faraaz> or whatever your thing is...
[09:18] <doug__> is ther ea programer in here that can help me or let me run an idea by them im needing a really good programer thats up there please join me in room #wwed please all that are interasted even if you are a small programer
[09:18] <cookie_> 192.168......1
[09:18] <faraaz> ciao
[09:18] <PriceChild> cookie_, public or private?
[09:18] <PriceChild> right private
[09:18] <aleka> faraaz: Thanks a bunch ~
[09:18] <cookie_> what's the difference
[09:18] <nanonyme> cookie_, what was the actual question?
[09:18] <PriceChild> cookie_, one the computers connected to it see, the other the internet sees
[09:19] <cookie_> both
[09:19] <PriceChild> cookie_, run sudo dhclient, and see where you get the DHCPACK from?
[09:19] <PriceChild> cookie_, that will be the private ip
[09:19] <cookie_> I only have 1 computer, mine connected to a router
[09:19] <PriceChild> cookie_, see IndyGunFreak's command to find the private ip
[09:19] <PriceChild> cookie_, see IndyGunFreak's command to find the public ip sorruy
[09:19] <dstadulis> Budwaa: Any certain method to determining the fs?  If I guess will it corrupt any data?, just noticing that I might have an even bigger issue on my hand, I suspect something is wrong with the power on my USB connection
[09:19] <cookie_> thanks
[09:20] <tungsten> hello
[09:20] <IndyGunFreak> aren't most routers like 192.168.x.x?
[09:20] <cookie_> yes they are
[09:20] <cookie_> I need my 3rd pair of numbers
[09:20] <doug__> looking for a big time or small time programmer to run an idea by them if anyone is interasted please join me in room #wwed
[09:20] <wastrel> cookie_: do you know your ip address and subnet?
[09:20] <tungsten> i have a questions regarding Xchat IRC client; how can I add a script that enables automatic connections to certain servers? thanks in advance
[09:21] <PriceChild> tungsten, xchat > network list
[09:21] <cookie_> I know my ip adress from the connection
[09:21] <cookie_> without router
[09:21] <PriceChild> tungsten, edit networks and click the appropriate checkboxes
[09:21] <PriceChild> cookie_, we've told you how to find this out....
[09:21] <tungsten> okay, ill try
[09:21] <cookie_> it does not work
[09:21] <wastrel> cookie_:  so if your ip addy is  192.168.2.2, your router is usually going to be 192.168.2.1
[09:21] <maestrojed> I am building a machine to be both my test web server and a file server for my small office.  Right now I have installed Ubuntu Feisty Desktop and installed the need apps to make it a working LAMP server.  Now I am working of the file sharing parts of this equiation.  Everything is suggesting I run SAMBA. Can I run this box as both a LAMP and SAMBA server?
[09:21] <cookie_> yes, I know that
[09:22] <PriceChild> cookie_, are you using network manager in your notification area?
[09:22] <cookie_> But I do not know my network ip ip
[09:22] <astro76> maestrojed, of course
[09:22] <cookie_> yes
[09:22] <PriceChild> cookie_, right click it, choose connection information, then the default gateway is your router
[09:22] <cookie_> yes, thanks
[09:22] <rediz_> i'm in the dir: sudo tar xvzf /home/rediz/UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz gets:  /home/rediz/UltraClean_Colorpack.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:22] <wastrel> cookie_:  what network ip ip?  you mean the subnet mask?
[09:22] <wastrel> 255.255.255.0 ?
[09:22] <cookie_> what the hell is subnet mask
[09:23] <cookie_> what is that?
[09:23] <BernardB> Google --> subnet mask
[09:23] <wastrel> part of network configuration sometimes
[09:23] <cookie_> shit
[09:23] <cookie_> It is on DHCP
[09:23] <GB_> has ubuntu also apt-get onboard?
[09:23] <PriceChild> cookie_, what do you want? the router's private ip?
[09:23] <BernardB> Yes GB_
[09:23] <astro76> rediz_, still at it? is the file actually in your home and are you typing the filename correctly? try using tab completion, it helps
[09:24] <cookie_> well, I know my ip coming from the provider
[09:24] <GB_> is it standard or do you have to install it?
[09:24] <MongooseWA> what's a good program for ripping CD's? rhythmbox doesn't have enough bitrate options for me.
[09:24] <PriceChild> cookie_, what do you want?!
[09:24] <cookie_> but once I connect my computer to a router, it will have a network ip, like 192.168.x.x
[09:24] <cookie_> I want that x.x
[09:24] <PriceChild> cookie_, of your computer, or your router?
[09:25] <vocx> rediz_, you are typing the file name wrong. Use the <Tab> key so that the you complete the names correctly.
[09:25] <cookie_> well, if I know my computer's i caqn find my router's
[09:25] <cookie_> 192.168.x.1 is my router's ip adress
[09:25] <cookie_> what is that x
[09:25] <PriceChild> cookie_, "ifconfig" will have the ip address
[09:25] <PriceChild> GRRR
[09:25] <PriceChild> cookie_, I'm afraid I cannot help you/
[09:25] <alexmono94> does anyone know how i can get my linksys wusb54g network adapter working properly because i cant just click the network i have to manually configure it
[09:26] <doug__> im looking for a big time programmer or someone who knwos alot about programming
[09:26] <PriceChild> doug__, ask your real question.
[09:26] <mindrape> doug__ head over to #c #python etc... ;)
[09:26] <cookie_> screw ifconfig
[09:26] <doug__> thnks mindrape
[09:26] <cookie_> it does not give it to me
[09:26] <mindrape> and be prepared to pay $... people dont usually develop for free unless they REALLY get excited about it.
[09:26] <astro76> cookie_, as mentioned, either ifconfig, or right click on network manager applet and click Connection Information
[09:27] <CTho_> anyone have the cisco VPN client working on feisty?
[09:27] <Bozza_> ok sweet i found out i need ntfs3g and ntfsfix
[09:27] <BernardB> GB_, Standard.
[09:27] <CTho_> it wants linux/config.h to compile
[09:27] <PriceChild> cookie_, state what you want and maybe someone can help.
[09:27] <PriceChild> cookie_, right now... you're not... and you keep changing your mind and confusing yourself and me.
[09:27] <mindrape> cookie_ if you type ifconfig it will show all network interfaces and their IPs... the router will likely be the gateway which is an IP that ends in .1 in most cases
[09:27] <Bozza_> but one question .. how do i know what the linux name of a drive is . e.g. hda6
[09:27] <mindrape> Bozza_ you can check dmesg for devices that it identified at boot and attempted to configure
[09:27] <wastrel> CTho_:  install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:27] <Bozza_>  e.g. hda6
[09:27] <vocx> doug__, mindrape general programming discussion in #ubuntu-programming and ubuntuforums.org
[09:27] <cookie_> I did type what I wanted
[09:28] <disinterested> anyone have a slave drive they can write to. and this site they used to make it so?
[09:28] <cookie_> my ROUTER'S ip
[09:28] <Bozza_> ok thanks
[09:28] <PriceChild> cookie_, which one?
[09:28] <CTho_> wastrel: ii  linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic            2.6.20-16.31                           Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.20 on x
[09:28] <CTho_> wastrel: already installed, yes?
[09:28] <rediz_> aha got it at last:) thanks for helping stupid newbie. i'm getting there slowly but surely
[09:28] <PriceChild> cookie_, your router will have two... one for the internet to see, and one that your home network will see.
[09:28] <Budwaa> dstadulis: if its formatted in windows then its likely ntfs or fat32
[09:28] <jessii> is anyone else having a problem getting to http://ubuntuforums.org/? seems to be stuck loading for me. can get to other sites no problem, so i know its not my connection.
[09:28] <willskills> guys ubuntuforums.org down for everyone?
[09:28] <PriceChild> jessii, hey, come to #ubuntuforums please
[09:28] <PriceChild> willskills, same
[09:29] <willskills> kk - thought so
[09:29] <cookie> it does not work
[09:29] <willskills> was fine not 5minutes ago
[09:29] <jessii> ok...guess its not just me then lol
[09:29] <wastrel> CTho_:  apparently :]    you may want to point your cisco configure to the location of the config.h on your filesystem
[09:29] <cookie> It does not give me the 192.168.x.x i
[09:29] <cookie> p
[09:29] <AlgorthmicContro>  Ubuntu can't load my default session at login and it uses failsafe gnome every time, I can't seem to fix it. I haven't tried anything yet, but I think it's a problem with ~home folder. could anyone help?
[09:29] <CTho_> wastrel: where might i find it?
[09:29] <MongooseWA> what's a good program for ripping CD's? rhythmbox doesn't have enough bitrate options for me.
[09:29] <wastrel> CTho_:   or make a symlink  /usr/src/linux  pointing to the kernel headers
[09:29] <ambrose_> k3b
[09:29] <astro76> cookie, what if you right click on network manager and click Connection Information?
[09:29] <dgjones> cookie, what make and model is your router?
[09:29] <PriceChild> cookie, please answer my questions or I can not help you...
[09:29] <PriceChild> dgjones, irrelevant...
[09:29] <vocx> !rip | MongooseWA
[09:29] <ubotu> MongooseWA: For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping. To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar
[09:30] <PriceChild> cookie, you awnt the private ip then? 192.168 etc. ?
[09:30] <cookie> when I go to connection information I get 0.0.0.0
[09:30] <jahnkeanater> i want to turn a python program into a .pyc
[09:30] <ambrose_> hey has any 1 installed gnash
[09:30] <PriceChild> !anyone | ambrose_
[09:30] <ubotu> ambrose_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:30] <jahnkeanater> how do i compile it
[09:30] <cookie> PriceChild: YES, form 192.168.x.1, I want the x
[09:30] <ambrose_> im askin to find out has any 1 installed it
[09:30] <PriceChild> cookie,
[09:30] <ambrose_> most people has not
[09:31] <Pixie|Fan|Club> hello
[09:31] <vocx> jahnkeanater, run the file with the python interpreter "python file.py" I think there are some command lines you may use, read the manual pages.
[09:31] <Bozza_> whats if i mounted a harddisk via usb .. how do i know which hda it is
[09:31] <astro76> cookie, so your router didn't hand out an IP via dhcp for some reason... maybe just try 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1, see if either work? this is most common
[09:31] <PriceChild> cookie, the easiest way i can think of, is to right click the network manager icon, then choose connection information
[09:31] <PriceChild> cookie, the router's ip will be listed as the "default gateway"
[09:31] <dgjones> PriceChild, i was working on the idea that he wanted to get to the router setup by using the ip address, and the two routers i use have different ip's
[09:31] <Pixie|Fan|Club> how do i download programs on ubuntu
[09:31] <cookie> damn
[09:31] <ambrose_> can any 1 help me with gnash
[09:31] <PriceChild> cookie, "default route" sorry
[09:31] <cookie> When I go to connection informaion I get 0.0.0.0 for all of them
[09:31] <PriceChild> dgjones, nope, he just wants the ip on the private side of his connection
[09:31] <PriceChild> cookie, ok, run sudo dhclient,
[09:32] <tjduavis> good afternoon everybody
[09:32] <cookie> it does not work
[09:32] <Pixie|Fan|Club> tell me
[09:32] <PriceChild> cookie, it will be the ip before "DHCPACK"
[09:32] <Pixie|Fan|Club> this is gay
[09:32] <PriceChild> *after
[09:32] <PriceChild> Pixie|Fan|Club, please don't use gay as a derogatory term in this channel.
[09:32] <knaar> does anyone here know anything but Xen?
[09:32] <PriceChild> !gnash | ambrose_
[09:32] <ubotu> ambrose_: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[09:32] <jahnkeanater> all i know is i use the module compile_py but i don't know how to use it i keep getting errors
[09:32] <PriceChild> ambrose_, bah sorry ignore that
[09:32] <CTho_> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[09:33] <PriceChild> CTho_, it seems so, #ubuntuforums please
[09:33] <ambrose_> yea
[09:33] <ambrose_> lol
[09:33] <ambrose_> i installed it already i wondering can any 1 help me with it
[09:33] <PriceChild> ambrose_, what's not working then?
[09:33] <ambrose_> the sound
[09:34] <PriceChild> probably just a gnash bug... its not perfect.
[09:34] <maestrojed> I am trying to make a second hd on my ubuntu box a shared drive (file server for a small office).  SAMBA was suggested to me and I am trying to find a tutorial to help me set it up.  I found this http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/04/mount-network-file-systems-nfssamba-in.html but an confused.  Do I need to set up both NFS and SAMBA or just one of those?
[09:34] <knaar> so no one knows anything about Xen?
[09:34] <CTho_> wastrel: http://www.tuxx-home.at/archives/2006/12/07/T09_36_48/ :)
[09:34] <ambrose_> the video quality isnt great but im not complaining the sound doesn not work for most videos
[09:35] <jahnkeanater> what do i type in terminal to run a python program
[09:35] <cookie> stupid thing
[09:35] <wastrel> ah good
[09:35] <wastrel> jahnkeanater:  python /path/to/python/script
[09:35] <jahnkeanater> ~desktop\.py
[09:35] <Flannel> !xen | knaar
[09:35] <dgjones> maestrojed, what are you sharing to? only linux boxes, or windows machines as well?
[09:35] <pupi120290> !cedega
[09:35] <sq89> jahnkeanater: python programname.py
[09:35] <ubotu> knaar: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:35] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[09:35] <vocx> jahnkeanater, all modules should have documentation, head to python.org, also you may browse the threads in the programming talk in ubuntuforums.org, try #python or even #ubuntu-programming
[09:35] <jahnkeanater> k
[09:35] <cookie> what is a subnet mask and what is it used for?
[09:36] <knaar> ambrose_: are you trying to use gnash to view youtube videos? because I'm pretty sure gnash doesn't support it very well
[09:36] <wastrel> cookie:  it's part of the network configuration.
[09:36] <_dennis_> what's the bash command again to check you're processors architecture?
[09:36] <ambrose_> yea i am
[09:36] <cookie> wastrel: and what does it do?
[09:36] <mindrape> cookie - you need to do some googling and attempt to educate yourself first.  This is VERY basic info you are asking.
[09:36] <wastrel> it's usually 255.255.255.0  for the 192.168.x.* range
[09:36] <livebox> espaa?
[09:36] <PriceChild> ambrose_, its greatly improved in gutsy in october
[09:36] <PriceChild> !es | livebox
[09:36] <ubotu> livebox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:37] <ambrose_> yea i kno
[09:37] <livebox> thanks
[09:37] <ambrose_> im juss asked becuz i watched a video and the sound kicked it so i guessing
[09:37] <livebox> hola
[09:37] <wastrel> subnet mask is used to tell the computer which ip network your ip address is a member of
[09:37] <ambrose_> is it gnash? idk
[09:37] <livebox> hola
[09:37] <zgmf-x20a> #psp
[09:38] <Midtronic> where would I add a command I want executed on startup (syndaemon)?  I guess even better is where can I find docs on how ubuntu handles runtimes and such
[09:38] <jahnkeanater> how do i run a program in terminal i did it before i don't remember how python ~desktop\name.py
[09:38] <jahnkeanater> that is not working
[09:38] <Flannel> jahnkeanater: ~/Desktop/name.py would be the path
[09:39] <jahnkeanater> 1 sec
[09:39] <astro76> !startup | Midtronic
[09:39] <ubotu> Midtronic: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[09:39] <knaar> ambrose, I use the proprietary adobe version of flash -- it has no problems with youtube of course. But it's limited to x86, so if you're using exotic hardware, you're rather hooped
[09:39] <Midtronic> !boot
[09:39] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:39] <astro76> Midtronic, that would go well in Sessions since it's only usefull when you run your desktop
[09:39] <Midtronic> that's true, but I switch between KDE and fluxbox
[09:39] <holotone> Fresh feisty amd64 install with an odd problem; Any time this machine runs bit torrent (via both deluge and Miro), the network crawls to a total standstill; Even if nothing is downloading or uploading (I presume that it's continuing to check the trackers for new peers)
[09:39] <astro76> Midtronic, ahh
[09:40] <astro76> Midtronic, well there's a specific way for each desktop
[09:40] <astro76> Midtronic, IIRC kde has some Autostart directory
[09:40] <jahnkeanater> do i do python then when i am in the >>> type ~desktop\name.py
[09:40] <Midtronic> I'll poke around for it.  Thanks
[09:41] <klinger> jahnkeanater: no, just type 'python ~/Desktop/name.py'
[09:41] <Flannel> jahnkeanater: ~desktop\name.py isn't the correct path.  It's ~/Desktop/name.py
[09:41] <rediz_> comp wont see belkin 8010 wireless pcmcia card.
[09:41] <Midtronic> slightly more esoteric... know of any PCMCIA/USB wireless cards that'll work well on a PPC?
[09:41] <jahnkeanater> its cap sensitive
[09:42] <jahnkeanater> o i see ~\
[09:42] <wastrel> it is case sensitive
[09:42] <wastrel> jahnkeanater:  use tab complete- saves typing.  type the first part and press tab
[09:42] <vocx> jahnkeanater, when you see >>> you are already in python console. Get out of it with exit() and then type as Flannel says.
[09:42] <wastrel> ah yes >>>
[09:42] <phaedra> rediz_,  Use ndiswrapper with the xp drivers.
[09:42] <knaar> okay, my question (and I'm hoping someone knows) is can I run a Xen HVM using a i386 version of ubuntu with Xen installed? Or do I have to use a amd64 version of ubuntu to do this?
[09:42] <Flannel> jahnkeanater: ~/  not \
[09:43] <rediz_> i installed ndi wrapper
[09:43] <wastrel> what's hvm
[09:43] <knaar> Xen HVM allows you to use an unmodified windows guest in Xen
[09:44] <phaedra> rediz_,  The use ndiswrapper -i  /path/to/drivers/driver.inf
[09:44] <MongooseWA> will sleep/hibernate be fixed anytime soon?
[09:44] <knaar> or in my case, OpenBSD doesn't have a Xen port yet, so I want to use HVM to run OpenBSD (and windows eventually)
[09:44] <krammer> Should watch dog be running?
[09:45] <phaedra> rediz_,  Actually prefix that with sudo...
[09:45] <knaar> so I take it no one here has tinkered with Xen and tried to get a HVM working in it?
[09:45] <maestrojed> dgjones: no win and mac boxes also
[09:47] <jahnkeanater> y is this not working python ~/Desktop/name.py
[09:48] <wastrel> unmodified windows guest
[09:48] <wastrel> windows won't run as a guest in xen?
[09:48] <vocx> knaar, sorry. Maybe you should try the Xen forums or mailing lists.
[09:48] <ambrose_> wat is gnash for it does'nt really play anything
[09:49] <bruenig> jahnkeanater, is there a file on your desktop called name.py?
[09:49] <SunnyMido> /font
[09:49] <vocx> ambrose_, it's open source. It may not work but it's still a project.
[09:49] <ambrose_> yea i know
[09:49] <dgjones> maestrojed, rite, i'm only sharing to ubuntu boxes with nfs, not sure what you need to share to the windows machines
[09:49] <disinterested> anyone running azureus 3.0.2.2?
[09:49] <jahnkeanater> yea
[09:49] <knaar> ambrose_, gnash is beta software, which means it's it's still in development
[09:49] <klinger> jahnkeanater: what kind of errormessage does it give?
[09:50] <jahnkeanater> i can only run it in idle
[09:50] <ambrose_> well it really doesnt play anything
[09:50] <Pelo> disinterested,  questions regarding azureus are better directed to #azureus-support
[09:50] <bruenig> what happens when you run that command?
[09:50] <disinterested> ok ty pelo
[09:50] <ambrose_> if u dont have a powerpc ur lucky
[09:50] <chickenFuego> HI guys, who can give me some tips to find the lowest price dedicated server to rent in the world...
[09:50] <bruenig> !ot | chickenFuego
[09:50] <ubotu> chickenFuego: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:51] <jahnkeanater> i got it
[09:51] <chickenFuego> HI guys, who can give me some tips to find the lowest price dedicated server to rent in the world., with ubuntu on it I mean!!
[09:51] <disinterested> hey pelo do u know a good site for setting up a slave hd to run as read and write?
[09:51] <rediz_> so i need to download the windows driva
[09:51] <PriceChild> chickenFuego, you are offtopic, see ubotu's message
[09:51] <Pelo> chickenFuego,  this isn'T the place for such inquiries
[09:51] <jahnkeanater> is it cap sensitive
[09:51] <klinger> yes
[09:51] <phaedra> rediz_,  Just install them from the disk that came with the card.
[09:52] <ibara> most everything is case sensitive
[09:52] <Pelo> disinterested, slave hdd are always read write , ifyou can't wite to it from ubuntu is is either because of permission or the filesystem used
[09:52] <jahnkeanater> ok i got it now
[09:53] <disinterested> its permissions
[09:54] <Pelo> disinterested, sudo chmod 755 /pathTo/mountpoint
[09:54] <disinterested> ok ty
[09:55] <vocx> jahnkeanater, thank goodness. You need to read a lot if you want to be savvy in programming.
[09:55] <knaar> oh hey I just found kvm which allows me to use qemu to do the same job as xen..... oooooooooo I'm excited. okay, thanks folks I, I'm going to try this out now
[09:55] <rathel> Amarok crashed on my, and I have amarokapp <defunct> still in my process list, how do I kill it? I tried kill -s 9 but it didn't do anything.
[09:55] <SirBob1701> hmm i'm trying to install compiz and I have the latest nvidia drivers (running a 7800GT)  but when i run compiz --replace it says Xgl not present can anyone help?
[09:56] <Pelo> rathel, zombie ?  select to order by dependencies and kill the parent process
[09:56] <rediz_> aint got disk looking for win driver on net
[09:56] <Pelo> SirBob1701, try asking in #compiz-fusion
[09:56] <SirBob1701> k
[09:56] <phaedra> rediz_,  Okay, then just dl it from belkin...
[09:56] <jahnkeanater> i use the python IDLE all the time and i forgot how to run it in terminal
[09:56] <rathel> Pelo, kill what though? that's the only thing in the list thats related to amarok I think.
[09:56] <vocx> rediz_, do not lose your disks! People never learn.
[09:57] <r_rehashed> hi all
[09:57] <fatcatmatt> hello, everybody.  what's a good rpg for ubuntu that i dont have to pay for?
[09:57] <Pelo> rathel, how are you getting the list ? top ?  try the system monitor in the system > admin menu
[09:57] <rediz_> got card off mate
[09:57] <jetscreamer> enemy territory...
[09:57] <jimmacdonald> Dr_willis: what were you asking me about last night?
[09:57] <jetscreamer> you can play a medic
[09:57] <Pelo> jetscreamer, wrong channel I think
[09:57] <jetscreamer> 14.58.33]  <fatcatmatt> hello, everybody.  what's a good rpg for ubuntu that i dont have to pay for?
[09:57] <r_rehashed> i am getting a "can't access tty" error when i am trying to install Feisty-desktop-i386 on my Dell Inspiron 1420
[09:58] <r_rehashed> what is the problem?
[09:58] <Pelo> jetscreamer, my appologies
[09:58] <vocx> fatcatmatt, search synaptic for games. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:58] <Pelo> r_rehashed,  what videocard ?
[09:58] <r_rehashed> Pelo: Intel GMA X3100
[09:58] <fatcatmatt> vocx: not really off-topic, i dont think...
[09:58] <rathel> Pelo,  I was using ps.
[09:59] <Pelo> r_rehashed,  very odd , run the cd integrity check see if the cd is ok
[09:59] <vocx> fatcatmatt, people there probably now better since they are not answering various questions, they are relaxing
[09:59] <rathel> Pelo, Can't kill it from System monitor, I guess I have to restart then?
[09:59] <r_rehashed> Pelo: yeah the checksums are fine
[09:59] <vocx> fatcatmatt, there is also a Gaming subforum in ubuntuforums.org
[09:59] <r_rehashed> Pelo: what does the error mean?
[09:59] <Pelo> rathel, from the system monitor,  check inthe display options to have displyed by dependencies
[10:00] <fatcatmatt> vocx: okay...i figured this was the place to answer questions, but i guess it's a crime to ask a simple question
[10:00] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search rpg
[10:00] <ibara> it's a support forum, asking about games isn't really a support question
[10:00] <Pelo> r_rehashed,  means it can'T access one of the device ports,  not sure which one or why it cares, is it possibly you have a usb monitor ?
[10:00] <ibara> support channel rather
[10:01] <rathel> Pelo, ah gotcha.
[10:01] <Pelo> jetscreamer, do you know anything myst like ?  just snazzy graphics no violence ?
[10:01] <CheesyMonkey> In order to get my xgl enabled in my X server do i need to install 'xserver-xgl' package?
[10:01] <Bizon> Hi, do you know why i don't have the unistd.h and unistd.h headers for the C language ?
[10:02] <r_rehashed> Pelo: it is a laptop. so the monitor won't be using USB, i guess
[10:02] <vocx> Bizon, have you "sudo aptitude install build-essential" ?
[10:02] <arreis> hey, how do I run two commands with sudo, something like: sudo (command1; command2) ?
[10:02] <rathel> Pelo, Still can't kill it's dep. :(
[10:02] <jimmacdonald> arreis: you have to run sudo after each ;
[10:02] <wastrel> arreis:  sudo cmd1; sudo cmd2
[10:02] <Proxosi> Is there another application beside gDesklets?
[10:02] <|Mathias|> can anyone help me with iptables ? :(
[10:02] <Kouros> arreis: sudo <command> ; sudo <command>
[10:02] <Pelo> r_rehashed,   try looking up your model in this list see if there is any advice  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:03] <Pelo> rathel,  no not kill the dep , kill the parrent  you might have to select view all processes
[10:03] <bruenig> depending on how long it takes you to do cmd1, you may be reprompted for a password with sudo cmd2, so be careful of that
[10:03] <Kouros> arreis: the ; is the same as pressing enter so you need to just think of it like that makes it easier to remember
[10:03] <Bizon> vocx >> What is build-essential ?
[10:03] <rathel> Pelo, it's parent is amarokapp, I can't kill it.
[10:04] <Pelo> rathel, I guess you'll have to restart then
[10:04] <C-{pR0F> Hello everybody ,, the cd-drive keeps going in and out in linux , till i insert any cd ... but in windows there are no problems !?
[10:04] <arreis> Kouros, that will tell me to enter password two times, if command 1 takes much time, doesn't it?
[10:04] <vocx> Bizon, installs the gcc compilers and C headers, libc, and make. It is a must if you are going to program.
[10:04] <Kouros> arreis: no is should only ask you the first time
[10:04] <djinn> question, anyone else having limewire issues with fawn?
[10:04] <Pelo> C-{pR0F,   cd drive icon won'T appear  on the desktop unless there is a cd in it
[10:04] <bruenig> arreis, yes, you can write the commands into a script and run the script with sudo if you need to or if it is just a one time thing, just sudo -s, and run it
[10:04] <Dr_Willis_> fawn?
[10:05] <Kouros> unless of course the process is taking a long time and your session with the cached password is timeing out.
[10:05] <djinn> ubuntu 7
[10:05] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  he means feity
[10:05] <Dr_Willis_> Limewire/Frostwire work for me under the latest kubuntus
[10:05] <Bizon> ok vocx, thanks. But i should have found this on the add/remove function in the Ubuntu menu :-/
[10:05] <Pelo> djinn,  it might help if you told us what issue
[10:05] <Dr_Willis_> clarify the issue.. and perhaps we can help
[10:05] <r_rehashed> Pelo: how can i get around the problem? any ideas?
[10:05] <broomad> hi, i installed winxp and mad a partition for my ubuntu system. now ich wanted to install ubuntu 64 bit, but when the ubuntu loading screen finished i get a x window error EE no devices found ( o got a gforce 8). anybody can help
[10:05] <djinn> Pelo: well, the program loads, but no display inside the window
[10:05] <Pelo> r_rehashed, the alternate install cd usualy work for most hardware related issues
[10:05] <C-{pR0F> Pelo: everything used to b ok , but yesterday when i logged into linux , the cd-driver keeps going out and in , and when i insert any cd it's automatically mounted , and the driver stops going in and out
[10:05] <arreis> thanks Kouros, bruenig :)
[10:05] <wastrel> djinn:  limewire doesn't work for me with feisty and compiz/xgl
[10:05] <vocx> Bizon, the fact is that not many people use Ubuntu to program, although people are changing that.
[10:05] <jetscreamer> broomad: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/appendix-a.html
[10:05] <Pelo> djinn,  do you have java installed ?
[10:06] <Kouros> arreis: np hope it helps
[10:06] <wastrel> djinn:  but it works if i use metacity instead of compiz
[10:06] <r_rehashed> Pelo: ok
[10:06] <Dr_Willis_> made a partotion - is proberly the first probem. :) i always leave a part of the HD UNALLOCATED and let the ubuntu installer partition it as ne3eded.
[10:06] <hackle577> hey all, i need help setting up keyboard shortcuts for special characters (like umlauts and stuff)
[10:06] <eipmo1> hi all
[10:06] <djinn> Pelo: the install of limewire put java in
[10:06] <Bizon> ok vocx i hope it will change in the next version
[10:06] <djinn> wastrel: ok, i just used the default
[10:06] <Dr_Willis_> Limewire frostwire - needs the actual sun java also.. :)
[10:07] <pablo__> hi, does someone get crashes on firefox?
[10:07] <djinn> Dr_Willis_: doesn't apt grab that one?
[10:07] <eipmo1> Hi __pablo__
[10:07] <Pelo> pablo__, occasionnaly , usualy related to flash
[10:07] <Dr_Willis_> djinn never noticed.. it was an issue in the past. :)
[10:07] <vocx> Bizon, the compilers are always in the repositories but I doubt they'll be installed automatically. You can most probably find them in the CD or DVD. Some people say newbies don't need it, but obviously some programmers want them.
[10:07] <djinn> wastrel: i'll try metacity instead
[10:07] <Dr_Willis_> not sure if its much of an issue now a days
[10:07] <AncientRelic> What's the state of SATA hotswapping on Linux?
[10:08] <djinn> willis, it grabbed sun java 5.0
[10:08] <__pablo__> hi eipmo1
[10:08] <Dr_Willis_> AncientRelic ive not seen that very useable under windows either. :) not sure its very useable under linux either.
[10:08] <__pablo__> eipmo1: what do you do?
[10:08] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_:  Actually I have used it under Windows before ;)
[10:08] <Dr_Willis_> But the whole external sata drive thing - is only now getting common.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis_> AncientRelic you are one of the few and brave then.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis_> AncientRelic - guy at work tried it.. lost his porn. :)
[10:09] <eipmo1> hi, i cant gett conected wireless, it search and then returns to wired
[10:09] <arreis> hey bruenig, is it possible to specify the password for sudo as an argument?
[10:09] <__pablo__> eipmo1: i have put on line my blog!!!
[10:09] <KurtKraut> Is there any tool for detecting partitions and setting them to be automounted ?
[10:09] <arreis> something like sudo -p password
[10:09] <PKdoR>  ineed help installing themes
[10:09] <PKdoR> please
[10:09] <broomad> jetscreamer what i have to do with the link?
[10:09] <eipmo1> url __pablo__ thanks
[10:09] <dadaaa> ok me need help geting the source code for my ubuntu
[10:09] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_: Me too
[10:09] <potamota> anyone using pdnsd in dialup, may i peek your pdnsd.conf ? thanks
[10:09] <Dr_Willis_> KurtKraut i just manually edit the fstab as needed. its worth learning how to do.
[10:09] <PKdoR> I downloaded some themes but cant install them
[10:09] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_:  Getting eSATA cases for 13 bucks does help ;)
[10:09] <bruenig> arreis, no I don't think, kind of defeats the point
[10:09] <hackle577> i need help setting up keyboard shortcuts for special characters (like umlauts and stuff)
[10:10] <Dr_Willis_> AncientRelic thats good. :) i got a load of external usb ide's still.
[10:10] <__pablo__> eipmo1: http://pablog2007.wordpress.com/ (italian)
[10:10] <Dr_Willis_> i dont use them much = slow. :(
[10:10] <dirtyhand> how can I completely remove apache2 so taht I can do a full reinstall (I messed up some files)
[10:10] <dirtyhand> ?
[10:10] <dadaaa> i have ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-29-386
[10:10] <Pelo> PKdoR, sometimes themes are repacked to add some info files,  unpack them once before dragigng them to the theme manager
[10:10] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_:  FW cases for me now
[10:10] <bruenig> arreis, what you can do however is setup an exception in sudoers which will allow to run specific things with sudo without having to use a password
[10:10] <Kworth> how do I find out my system architecture (64bit) ?
[10:10] <dadaaa> where do i find the source for that
[10:10] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_:  Switching as needed
[10:10] <KurtKraut> Dr_willis: thanks for helping, but I still would like to find an GUI to do that. Do you have anything in mind ?
[10:10] <AncientRelic> Kworth: What CPU?
[10:10] <__pablo__> eipmo1: it's very simple
[10:10] <Pelo> Kworth, check your documentation
[10:11] <Kworth> AncientRelic, AMD Turion 64 X2
[10:11] <broomad> hi, i installed winxp and mad a partition for my ubuntu system. now ich wanted to install ubuntu 64 bit, but when the ubuntu loading screen finished i get a x window error EE no devices found ( o got a gforce 8). anybody can help
[10:11] <AncientRelic> Kworth: You're 64-bit
[10:11] <dadaaa> i hav ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-29-386 and i need to find the source code, where can i find that?
[10:11] <dirtyhand> ?
[10:11] <dirtyhand> how can I completely remove apache2 so taht I can do a full reinstall (I messed up some files)
[10:11] <AncientRelic> Kworth: Need something more specific?
[10:11] <djinn> now i have a dumb question
[10:11] <PriceChild> dadaaa, apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-29-386
[10:11] <Kworth> AncientRelic: yes but what is the package called. for normal cpu its i386 so what is it for 64bit?
[10:11] <mindrape> djinn then we have a dumb answer
[10:11] <dadaaa> that command does it?
[10:12] <Pelo> broomad, not all nvidia and ati videocards have 64 bit drivers, also youcan get help in german in #ubuntu-de
[10:12] <djinn> how do you change the login window manager from one to another?
[10:12] <AncientRelic> Kworth: What package? You mean the distro CD?
[10:12] <JediMaster> hi, anyone know why after setting up dual screens (two geforce 8800 gtx cards) without xinerama I don't have any window decoration on the second screen (no window borders or titlebar)?
[10:12] <bruenig> dadaaa, downloads the source of that package
[10:12] <Pelo> djinn, the manager or the theme ?
[10:12] <Kworth> AncientRelic, no I mean if I want to get a .deb package how is it called...
[10:12] <dadaaa> wer does it dl to?
[10:12] <bruenig> dadaaa, current directory iirc
[10:12] <Pelo> !dualhead | JediMaster
[10:12] <ubotu> JediMaster: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:12] <jeff-> uh i just turned on amarak and the sound is kinda funky it sounds a little slow and earlyer it was fine i have done nothing to my system since i last ran it any ideas?
[10:12] <Kworth> AncientRelic, thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0_i386.deb  <-- this one doesnt work
[10:13] <dirtyhand> how can I completely remove apache2 so taht I can do a full reinstall (I messed up some files)
[10:13] <askand> Im using proftp for my server..I can connect with ftp://localhost ut not with ftp://my.ip...why??
[10:13] <AncientRelic> Kworth: look for _amd64 partitions
[10:13] <bhara1> djinn _ you can change it directly from >>Desktop >>Adminstration >> login window
[10:13] <AncientRelic> Kworth: packages
[10:13] <Pelo> dirtyhand, in synaptic use remove completely or what ever it is
[10:13] <bruenig> dirtyhand, you can sudo apt-get remove --purge it, if you made any config files yourself that were not in the default package, you will need to remove those too
[10:13] <arreis> bruenig, thanks :)
[10:13] <potamota> anyone using pdnsd in dialup, may i peek your pdnsd.conf ? thanks
[10:13] <dirtyhand> Pelo: I dont have X installed
[10:13] <dadaaa> so thats not somthing i type into my terminal window?
[10:13] <Pelo> dirtyhand, see what bruenig recommended
[10:14] <broomad> Pelo, nobody answers tghere
[10:14] <jeff-> how do i fix the sound in amarak it was working fine earlyer and now it is all messed up it is running just a tab bit slow
[10:14] <eipmo1> __pablo__ i am joining the forum
[10:14] <bhara1> how can i run beryl on an AMD 64 bit system??
[10:14] <eipmo1> ;-)
[10:14] <Pelo> broomad, where ?
[10:14] <dadaaa> apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-29-386
[10:14] <AncientRelic> bhara1: look for compiz-fusion, beryl is depreciated nowe
[10:14] <Kworth> Does anyone know where I can get an amd64 package of thunderbird2.xxx
[10:14] <Kworth> ?
[10:15] <Pelo> broomad, nvm I got it ,  sometimes you need to be patient
[10:15] <AncientRelic> Kworth: do an install from source?
[10:15] <broomad> Pelo, nobody answers tghere : ubuntu-de
[10:15] <Kworth> AncientRelic, okay I will
[10:15] <vuSti-Monogami> i want to install wine 0.9.41 but 0.9.45 is what i get if i type apt-get install wine.. can i use apptitude to get an earlier version of wine ?
[10:15] <__pablo__> eipmo1: ok
[10:16] <Knight_On_White> hello all, can anyone recommend a motherboard model that support up to 8 giga ram and worked smoothly with the Ubuntu server 7.04 64 bit version (clean installion without upgrade the kernel or someting) ?
[10:16] <eipmo1> i am in, and post the comment
[10:16] <jeff-> anyone knwo how i can fix amarak ? the sound is running just a tab bit slow
[10:16] <AncientRelic> Knight_On_White: you have a CPU in mind?
[10:16] <Dremth> how can i make a boot screen for ubuntu?
[10:16] <Anlar> Knight_On_White: any Tyan ?
[10:16] <Pelo> vuSti-Monogami, you can disalbe upgrades and get the wine ...41 .deb from the www.winehq.org  download > ubuntu > archives
[10:16] <jeff-> Dremth,  google that one should find a how to
[10:17] <JediMaster> Pelo: afraid that didn't answer the question
[10:17] <vuSti-Monogami> ok Pelo
[10:17] <vuSti-Monogami> ty
[10:17] <Knight_On_White> any dual core (conroe) that u will recommand
[10:17] <Dremth> jeff-: k thanks
[10:17] <Pelo> JediMaster,  that's the best I can offer
[10:17] <AncientRelic> Dremth: start with www.google-look.com
[10:17] <dirtyhand> how can I search for all packages installed that contain the word apache?
[10:17] <dirtyhand> I saw a snipper before with grep
[10:17] <Anlar> Knight_On_White: ie. Tyan Tempest I5000XT
[10:17] <JediMaster> Pelo: thanks anyhow =)
[10:17] <Bizon> Hi, how do i do to force the 100 hz resolution on my monitor (like in windows xp) ?
[10:17] <AncientRelic> Dremth: www.gnome-look.org
[10:17] <JediMaster> I'll ask again
[10:17] <djinn> hmmm
[10:17] <AncientRelic> my bad
[10:18] <p1per> Anyone using pypanel here? Got a simple question but I can't find the answer.
[10:18] <jeff-> how can imake amarak sound the way it used to it is a tab bit slow in the sound
[10:18] <Pelo> dirtyhand,   sudo apt-cache search apache  ther is probably an option for installed packages but I don'T know it ,  man apt-cache to see what they are
[10:18] <ttyS1> Hello, I just installed a few packages and now when I restart the system and login it keeps going back to the terminal screen and looping back to the gui loging screen
[10:18] <klinger> dirtyhand: aptitude search '~dapache'
[10:18] <PKdoR> I get an invalid file format when draging it to the themes window
[10:18] <JediMaster> After setting up dual screens (two geforce 8800 gtx cards) without xinerama I don't have any window decoration on the second screen (no window borders or titlebar)? (yes, I've read the various pages on multi-headed setup, nothing seems to cover this)
[10:18] <Pelo> jeff-, try restarting the os,  might just bee a flucke
[10:18] <ttyS1> however it goes in on restore mode
[10:18] <vuSti-Monogami> Pelo, how do i disable upgrading of that specific package ?
[10:19] <AncientRelic> Knight_On_White: For a home server, any intel chipset should work pretty well
[10:19] <jeff-> pelo thank si will do if it not work i let u know
[10:19] <dirtyhand> klinger: i need to search insatlled packages, not all available
 : do have actual experience with that model ?
[10:19] <broomad> Pelo, you got any idea where i shot look
[10:19] <klinger> dirtyhand: use '~dapache~i:
[10:19] <Pelo> vuSti-Monogami, open synaptic ,  somewhere in the menu I think or possibly in right click menu on the package
[10:19] <klinger> s/:/'
[10:19] <Pelo> broomad, not realy sorry
[10:19] <vuSti-Monogami> ok
[10:19] <Pirate_Hunter> azurues keeps crashing when loading in 7.04, how do i stop it from happening?
[10:20] <Kworth> Does anyone where I get Thunderbird2 Source Files?
[10:20] <Pelo> broomad, generaly we tell ppl with 64it system to run the x86 ubuntu anyway , less troublesome
[10:20] <AncientRelic> Kworth: www.mozilla.com
[10:20] <Kworth> +know
[10:20] <p1per> Does someone know how to make pypanel align new task/"tabs" in the taskbar to the left?
[10:20] <AncientRelic> Kworth: you can grab the .tar.gz right from there ;)
[10:20] <Kworth> AncientRelic, Yeah I am there but where on the page
[10:21] <Kworth> AncientRelic, Its hard to find
[10:21] <Keketin> hmmm, anyone got any idea why the heck i cant change the resolution? :o
[10:21] <Pelo> broomad,  and you'll need to use the alternate install cd  because of the nvidia card (or is it ati , same thing anyway)
[10:21] <jeff-> pelo i did and no fluke
[10:21] <Knight_On_White> what about Asus motherboards ? do they support ubuntu 7.04 64 bit smoothly ? can someone recommand on Asus model ?
[10:21] <jeff-> pelo its still sounding a bit slow
[10:21] <Kworth> AncientRelic, I found it
[10:21] <AncientRelic> Kworth: http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=thunderbird-2.0.0.6&os=linux&lang=en-US
[10:21] <Pelo> jeff-, then you need to ask yourself what happened between the last time it worked and now
[10:21] <Bizon> Please, how do i do to force the 100 hz vertical sync on my monitor (like in windows xp) ?
[10:21] <Pelo> jeff-,  did you try different files ?
[10:21] <ubuntu-> Knight_On_White: asus motherboards generally work good, i'd get whatever is popular and has the right features at a place like newegg.com
[10:21] <jeff-> pelo lol nothing all i did was close it last time and just opened it i have not updated nor installed anything
[10:22] <Pelo> Bizon, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    edit the correct line
[10:22] <KurtKraut> Dr_willis: I've added my new partitions to fstab but how can I have rw rights over it ?
[10:22] <AncientRelic> Knight_On_White: Might as well get a G33 based board, the onboard video is plenty for a server
[10:22] <Pelo> jeff-, between now and the last time you rebooted, did you upgrade anything ?
[10:22] <pdxkid> hi all - i hit a wall this morning after my server blew up.  anyone up for giving me some advice regarding software raid recovery?
[10:22] <jeff-> pelo no i havent
[10:22] <sams> hi all
[10:23] <Pelo> jeff-, I'm out of suggestion
[10:23] <sams> i need help
[10:23] <Pirate_Hunter> azurues keeps crashing when loading in 7.04, how do i stop it from happening?
[10:23] <Pelo> sams,  we need questions
[10:23] <AncientRelic> Knight_On_White: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131184
[10:23] <Leonekl> azureus?
[10:23] <Leonekl> hmm
[10:23] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter, ask in #azureus-support
[10:23] <KurtKraut> How can I add a partition to fstab giving me read/write permition ?
[10:23] <Leonekl> sometimes it acts up if beryl is on
[10:23] <Bizon> ok Pelo but will this xorg.conf configure the current user or the root user ?
[10:23] <Leonekl> the the incorrent options are in xorg
[10:23] <sams> when i incert mpeg cd in my rom then it stuck the system what shall i do ??
[10:23] <pdxkid> i've got a question:)  -> Server had 2 disks with software raid (ubuntu server 6.10).  Motherboard failed.  Dropped in a new motherboard (went from AMD to Intel)
[10:24] <Pelo> Bizon,  xorg is for the machine , it is not user related
[10:24] <pdxkid> now grub starts to load and it bombs out
[10:24] <Bizon> ok thanks then
[10:24] <pdxkid> i get the 'fake' bash shell thing with limited commands
[10:24] <pdxkid> any idea what i can do? i don't want to reload and loose my data....
[10:24] <ferronica> Can we use Picasa in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME
[10:24] <rowdog> how can I figure out what package has the OpenGL programming man pages?
[10:24] <ferronica> If yes where to download ?
[10:25] <sams> when i incert mpeg cd in my rom then it stuck the system what shall i do ??
[10:25] <Pelo> pdxkid, please don'T use the enter key for punctuation , it makes it hard to follow what you say,  this is a busy channel
[10:25] <pdxkid> thanks Pelo, good advice
[10:26] <Claudee> helpppp - i have a network connection, but not internet regardless if im wireless or wired
[10:26] <ferronica> Can we use Picasa in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME
[10:26] <Pelo> sams, menu > system > prefs > removable media,  change the default action on cd  for  do nothing
[10:26] <pdxkid> does anyone know how to chroot into a system with software raid to run apt-get update/upgrade ?
[10:26] <Pelo> ferronica,  I think there is a package for it on www.getdeb.net  but I am not sure,  you can also try searching int he forum
[10:26] <jeff-> Pelo,  i purge removed it and reinstalled it and still sounds little slow but hwoever my music videos do not
[10:27] <ubuntu-> rowdog: I don't know of man pages for opengl.  There are docs online like the red book: http://www.opengl.org/documentation/red_book/
[10:27] <Pelo> jeff-, I do not know
[10:27] <ferronica> Pelo: do you use it?
[10:27] <jeff-> does anyone in here knows amarok real good?
[10:27] <Pelo> jeff-,  there is a #amarok channel they mgiht know
[10:27] <Pelo> ferronica,  no I don'T
[10:27] <jeff-> thanks Pelo
[10:28] <rowdog> ubuntu- I can see the man page for glOrtho() on xfree.org but I'd like a local copy for offline programming
[10:29] <rowdog> thanks for the link though, that's helpful too, since I'm just starting ;^)
[10:29] <blazzy> how do I get  curlftpfs to play nice with windows ftp servers?
[10:29] <Pelo> blazzy, passive mode ?
[10:30] <Don64> ferronica : http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[10:30] <Proxosi> how come i can't you this in my command  ./autogen.sh && make && make install?
[10:30] <Proxosi> it say error
[10:30] <blazzy> Pelo: yeah. I tried switching between passive and not passive, but no luck there :-/. it was a good suggestion
[10:31] <Pelo> Proxosi, did you install  build-essential ?
[10:31] <Proxosi> Pelo how
[10:31] <ubuntu-> Proxosi: usually you do "sudo make install" to get root permission for installing the files
[10:31] <Proxosi> Pelo nope
[10:31] <mrsumner> Please help -- I've installed Wubi on my Thinkpad R61, but upon booting into Ubuntu, I receive the error:
[10:31] <mrsumner> "ata1: port failed to respond (30secs, status 0x80)
[10:31] <mrsumner> ata1: COMRESET failed (device not ready)
[10:31] <mrsumner> Can't access tty; job control turned off"
[10:31] <mrsumner> I've looked on the forums for Wubi and Ubuntu, and can't find much of anything. My main internal hard drive is SATA, so I guess that might have something to do with it. Any ideas?
[10:31] <Pelo> Proxosi,  sudo apt-get install buld-essential
[10:31] <GB_> can ubuntu be installed at a sata hdd?
[10:31] <AncientRelic> GB_: I've got it on 2 boxes now
[10:31] <Pelo> mrsumner, are you still able to start windows ?
[10:32] <mrsumner> Yes.
[10:32] <BFrank> is there anyway to speedup a dd diskbackup?
[10:32] <GB_> oh
[10:32] <Pelo> GB_, yes it is on mine
[10:32] <mrsumner> I also have an IDE drive in the expansion bay
[10:32] <GB_> xp can't
[10:32] <mrsumner> I've tried install wubi on it, but I get the same error
[10:32] <AncientRelic> GB_: XP SP2 can
[10:32] <Pelo> mrsumner,  I suggest you dl and install from the alternate install cd , I've never tried the webui
[10:32] <GB_> no it can't
[10:32] <[nrx] > xp can be installed on an sata drive
[10:32] <GB_> even xp2 can't
[10:32] <[nrx] > on sata?
[10:32] <AncientRelic> GB_: my dualboot with Windows MCE 2005 would disagree with you
[10:33] <HouseD> hi/oi
[10:33] <rebelThor> any idea how i can make programs disconnect their network connections on suspend? (gaim seems to keep it's "connected" state for a few minutes before timeout-ing)
[10:33] <GB_> I tried several times but xp can't
[10:33] <Pelo> GB_,  I use to have xp insatlled on sata it can
[10:33] <Claudee> helpppp - i have a network connection, but not internet regardless if im wireless or wired
[10:33] <[nrx] > likewise.. 2 of my boxes with SATA would disagree with you, too lol
[10:33] <ubuntu-> mrsumner: if you google you'll find some others who have had your problem, perhaps they have found a solution: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=wubi+Can%27t+access+tty&btnG=Search
[10:33] <GB_> only when you adjust the bios
[10:33] <[nrx] > GB_: *YOU* can't, XP can. There's a difference
[10:33] <gordonjcp> I have a PC at work that's dual-boot Ubuntu/XP, has SATA drives
[10:33] <jebblue> BFrank: do you compress your dd backup? I tried that thinking I might get size and speed results like with trueimage but the thing just kept on churning
[10:33] <AncientRelic> [nrx] : lol
[10:33] <askand> Im using proftp for my server..I can connect with ftp://localhost ut not with ftp://my.ip ,  why??
[10:33] <BFrank> yes
[10:34] <BFrank> I do
[10:34] <[nrx] > AncientRelic:  :)
[10:34] <jebblue> BRank: I'm looking for the same solution
[10:34] <ubuntu-> askand: perhaps you have a firewall blocking inbound connections?
[10:34] <BFrank> I thought I read passing a bs value to dd can speed it up
[10:34] <GB_> only when bios was set in legacy mode it could be installed
[10:35] <CheesyMonkey> If i want to just do a CLI install of ubuntu to build upon, can i use the server install cd?
[10:35] <[nrx] > GB_: ergo, XP can be installed on a sata drive
[10:35] <askand> ubuntu-: no apache works
[10:35] <AncientRelic> Dr_Willis_: I can at least unmount and remove and insert eSATA drives on my Linux box
[10:35] <jebblue> BFrank: dunno sounds like it's worth a try
[10:35] <GB_> than you miss the real speed of a sata drive
[10:35] <Pelo> GB_,  don'T beleive us go ask ithe ppl in ##windows
[10:36] <[nrx] > GB_: sounds like either your bios/drive/motherboard is dodgy, or your brain is
[10:36] <[nrx] > :)
[10:36] <xyz> how can I quickly make VLC the default handler of ALL media?
[10:36] <element3> why f4l not install under ubuntu any body can help me?
[10:36] <Pelo> xyz, remove all the others
[10:36] <ubuntu-> askand: there is a gui frontend to the firewall called firestarter - perhaps port 80 is open (for apache) but not the port for ftp? just a guess
[10:36] <xyz> Pelo: thanks
[10:36] <CheesyMonkey> If i want to get a CLI can i just use the server edition of feisty or do i need the alternate CD?
[10:37] <askand> ubuntu-: oh ok..what port is ftp? 21?
[10:37] <DigeratiH> what would cause my monitor to NOT shut off when my pc shuts off
[10:37] <Pelo> CheesyMonkey, either will do
[10:37] <DigeratiH> what do I need to investigate
[10:37] <[nrx] > DigeratiH: the power button?
[10:37] <vocx> CheesyMonkey, yes you can.
[10:37] <ubuntu-> askand: i think so, or 22 if you are using sftp/ssh perhaps
[10:37] <mini-me> hey, i'm trying to change the icons for filetypes of openoffice, but i can't find the folder where the images are in. Any idea?
[10:37] <DigeratiH> this same pc when connected to a old crt the monitor went to sleept
[10:37] <Pelo> DigeratiH, bios settngs and monitor features
[10:37] <CheesyMonkey> Pelo: So the server edition is no different to the standard edition? Just doesnt have any of the GUI on it?
[10:37] <DigeratiH> this monitor is a 17 flat and on any other pc it will go to sleep
[10:38] <jebblue> BFrank: type "how to speed up dd" in Google and check out that first link, maybe dump is better than dd since it skips null sectors at the moment of copy rather than defer until it gets to the RLE in the compressor
[10:38] <Pelo> mini-me,  /usr/share/icons/THEME/
[10:38] <Pelo> CheesyMonkey, more or less
[10:39] <Judgegeo> Hello all. Could i get some help, please?
[10:39] <cdm10> !ask | Judgegeo
[10:39] <ubotu> Judgegeo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:39] <[nrx] > !ask
[10:39] <CheesyMonkey> Pelo: So long as it will be okay to install and use as a desktop thats fine by me :)
[10:39] <Pelo> Judgegeo, we need questions
[10:39] <GB_> is there a linux program which can find the exact position of a wlan router ...something like a radar screen?
[10:39] <cdm10> GB_: No, that's pretty much impossible without special hardware.
[10:39] <Pelo> CheesyMonkey, any extra packages you might need you can get online using apt-get
[10:39] <BFrank> dump won't work, since I am copying an NTFS partition
[10:39] <vocx> CheesyMonkey, I believe the server edition lets you do other advance installations, raid, apache and so, and will use a different kernel. But probably yo can make it work the way you like.
[10:39] <[nrx] > GB_: not unless you're using triangulation hardware
[10:39] <sam1> still i cant play any movies cd or video songs from cdrom
[10:40] <sam1> it stuck my pc
[10:40] <bexamous> can't do it with one computer :P
[10:40] <jrib> BFrank: partimage?
[10:40] <Judgegeo> Well, I was using Ubuntu 5.10, and updated lots of the packages - now Windows X fails to boot. So i've downloaded the latest version and burnt it onto CD. Can anyone provide me with the command line promt to run the disk?
[10:40] <mini-me> Pelo: thanks, don't understand why i haven't looked there :)
[10:40] <qazibasit> hi
[10:40] <Pelo> sam1, try copying the files from the cd rom to the desktop see if a) you can b) they are playable
[10:40] <GB_> huh? but there is software which has this functionality, but only for pda...
[10:40] <jrib> Judgegeo: just reboot with the disk in the drive
[10:40] <cdm10> Judgegeo: you don't run the Ubuntu disc from the command line, you run it by booting off of it.
[10:40] <CheesyMonkey> vocx: WIll the different kernel still allow me to use this as a standard dekstop?
[10:40] <[nrx] > GB_: no there isn't
[10:41] <jebblue> partimage sounded like a dream until i found that it only works on unmounted disks
[10:41] <GB_> hmmm, that is a pitty :-(
[10:41] <IndyGunFreak> whats partimage?
[10:41] <sam1> but when cd runs it stck the pc
[10:41] <Judgegeo> I have tried multiple times, the current installation runs everytime. I have checked BIOS and everything is fine
[10:41] <[nrx] > GB_: it may use the signal strength to give an indication of distance, but not exact location
[10:41] <cdm10> GB_: I've seen a "radar-screen"-ish program for pocket PC, but it didn't actually find the location.
[10:41] <BFrank> going to have to investigate partimage
[10:41] <sam1> i m unable to brows cd
[10:41] <ectospasm> hrmm... is there a list of sha1/md5 sums for the ISOs?  I can't seem to get to it through the official website
[10:41] <ubuntu-> CheesyMonkey: yes, but i'd recommend installing desktop edition cd and then installing server software, rather than server edition and then desktop software
[10:41] <jrib> Judgegeo: how did you burn the disc?
[10:41] <cdm10> !md5sums | ectospasm
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5sums - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <qazibasit> hi
[10:41] <qazibasit> i am having a problem of ACPI
[10:41] <jrib> !who | Judgegeo
[10:41] <ubotu> Judgegeo: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[10:41] <qazibasit> dont know what is it
[10:42] <cdm10> !md5 | ectospasm
[10:42] <john|g> 3082dbbe4d748b11c07289d049c6efae
[10:42] <ubotu> ectospasm: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:42] <vocx> CheesyMonkey, yes sure, the kernel thing shouldn't be a problem.
[10:42] <qazibasit> PCIA and some other problems
[10:42] <Pelo> !enter | qazibasit
[10:42] <qazibasit> and its not starting normally as it used to
[10:42] <ubotu> qazibasit: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:42] <qazibasit> what should i do now
[10:42] <qazibasit> plz help
[10:42] <xero> I just got a wii :P
[10:42] <jebblue> partimage can copy a pure ok like rip your disk - a trick that TrueImage performs like magic on Windows and sadly, they dont have a linux versoin but partimage can do the same thing but more like Ghost where you have to run a sep boot disk to grab the image rather than getting it while the os is live
[10:42] <[nrx] > xero: nice one :)
[10:42] <Judgegeo> "jrib" I Downloaded the latest ISO, extracted it and burnt onto a disk
[10:43] <ubuntu-> ectospasm: md5sums for feisty or gutsy?  here are the ones for gutsy: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/MD5SUMS
[10:43] <ectospasm> cdm10:  I didn't ask *how*... I know that... I asked where the sum files are
[10:43] <Bizon> Hi, I tried to force the 100hz vertical sync in etc/X11/xorg.conf by adding the line "VertRefresh 50-75" in the"Monitor" section, but i haven't noticed a change in the vert sync so far :-/
[10:43] <Pelo> qazibasit,  restate your problem in one line
[10:43] <cdm10> ectospasm: it should be in the page linked.
[10:43] <qazibasit> ok well now u got the question plz come to the point and try to solve it
[10:43] <qazibasit> oh
[10:43] <qazibasit> ok
[10:43] <Bizon> vert refresh 100-100 sorry
[10:43] <cdm10> !attitude | qazibasit
[10:43] <ubotu> qazibasit: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:43] <GB_> what is the best wlan software than for linux/ubuntu?
[10:43] <jrib> Judgegeo: you did "burn image" right, not just burning the .iso file to the disc?
[10:43] <qazibasit> :) no its not
[10:43] <cdm10> GB_: the one built into Ubuntu 7.04...
[10:43] <sam1> my cdrom is new then why it stucked n hang the pc
[10:43] <vocx> Judgegeo, there is something wrong with your BIOS. Double check. Also try another Linux CD like Knoppix.
[10:43] <ubuntu-> ectospasm: here's feisty sums: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/MD5SUMS
[10:44] <qazibasit> guys my english is not good maybe u are taking it as rudeness
[10:44] <[nrx] > iwspy
[10:44] <Judgegeo> jrib: I believe so, I can always burn it again
[10:44] <Ashfire908> is there a tutorial for making deb packages?
[10:44] <cdm10> GB_: just click the networking icon on the panel, and click the network you want.
[10:44] <Pelo> Bizon, this is the proper syntax for the line  VertRefresh	43-60
[10:44] <qazibasit> but its hard for me to compile my sentence
[10:44] <[nrx] > or iwlist <iface> scanning
[10:44] <GB_> cdm10: ok, thanks
[10:44] <PKdoR> does any one have time ti explain how to install themes/icons/logings on bubuntu FF please I just cant get it
[10:45] <vocx> what is bubuntu?
[10:45] <jrib> Judgegeo: those are the only two things that I can think of.  Your bios has to be set to boot from the cd first and the cd has to be burnt correctly (do "burn image" and burn at 2x or 4x)
[10:45] <Pelo> qazibasit,   just ask your question in one line , don'T use the enter key for punctuation
[10:45] <Bizon> yes Pelo, i typed "VertRefresh 100-100"
[10:45] <PKdoR> oops i mean ubuntu
[10:45] <sam1> always want nee laal pranda...sajna da dil terkanda
[10:45] <qazibasit> ok now i got it
[10:45] <cdm10> PKdoR: go to System>Preferences>Themes and drag the theme file in.
[10:45] <Pelo> Bizon,  did you restart X afterward ?
[10:45] <jrib> Judgegeo: also, check the md5sum on the .iso you downloaded
[10:45] <jrib> !verify > Judgegeo (read the private message from ubotu)
[10:45] <PKdoR> i do but it give me a a wrong file type rror
[10:45] <Proxosi> How to install avant windows navigator
[10:45] <Bizon> yes i clicked on the little red quit button then i disconnected then i reconnected
[10:46] <Pelo> Proxosi, search on google they ahve instructions
[10:46] <Judgegeo> jrib: Thanks, give me a second and I'll check
[10:46] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add apps to application menu? how do i get and use menu edito?
[10:46] <cdm10> PKdoR: where did you get the theme file? What file type is it?
[10:46] <GB_> I expect that it is not possible, but if you are running ubuntu in vmware player, can you download and install software to ubuntu?
[10:46] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: right click on the ubuntu icon
[10:46] <Pelo> Bizon,  what is yoru videocard ?
[10:46] <cdm10> Pirate_Hunter: right click on the menu, and hit Edit Menus.
[10:46] <Gosha> How big can jellyfishes become?
[10:46] <vocx> Judgegeo, how old is the computer you are trying to install Ubuntu to?
[10:46] <qazibasit> i want to know what is ACPI and what it has to do with linux, coz my computer works fine with other OS and even it was working good with ubuntu but now it shows a problem and also regarding to RSDP
[10:46] <cdm10> !offtopic | Gosha
[10:46] <ubotu> Gosha: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:46] <jrib> GB_: sure, why not?
[10:46] <[nrx] > lol Gosha
[10:46] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib, cdm10: thanx
[10:47] <Bizon> Pelo:  it's an ATI Radeon 9600
[10:47] <Pelo> qazibasit,  I beleive acpi has to do with power consumption
[10:47] <sam1> how to update ubuntu to latest ver ???
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> is there a way to install KDE, and not have all those freakin KDE apps in my Gnome menu?
[10:47] <PKdoR> its a gz.tar
[10:47] <GB_> jrib:  well tried it in damn small linux, but that did not work
[10:47] <qazibasit> ok
[10:47] <cdm10> IndyGunFreak: you can remove them yourself, other than that I don't know.
[10:47] <sam1> nrx i solved the problem
[10:47] <cdm10> !upgrade | sam1
[10:47] <ubotu> sam1: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:47] <[nrx] > sam1: how?
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> cdm10: kinda what i thought
[10:47] <vocx> qazibasit, ACPI is something that controls the power usage of your motherboard. It allows it to sleep and hibernate and consume less power. Read wikipedia article for full story.
[10:47] <Pelo> Bizon,   I think ati drivers donT' use xorg.conf,  you'd have to change the settings somewhere else but I don'T know how,  I suggest to try a search in the forum   www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:47] <sam1> u teach me man
[10:47] <keito> HELP! how do I remove kde from ubuntu?
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> cdm10: but if you remove the app entries from your gnome menu, will they still be in your K menu when you change to kDE?
[10:47] <sam1> n u were rigth
[10:48] <jrib> GB_: I do it all the time
[10:48] <sam1> right
[10:48] <[nrx] > sam1: :)
[10:48] <cdm10> IndyGunFreak: yup, I think so
[10:48] <[nrx] > sam1: just takes a bit of patience and a little reading
[10:48] <sam1> thanx
[10:48] <IndyGunFreak> cdm10: hmm, ok, that might work
[10:48] <qazibasit> so what should i do now how, is the error related to malfunctioning of my PC's power supply
[10:48] <cdm10> qazibasit: it's what vocz said and more, it manages a lot of aspects of your hardware. In laptops, for example, lid close detection is done by acpi
[10:48] <sam1> ya u r right
[10:48] <jeff-> how do i fix my music i play evrythng else its all fine but whne i play my music it sounds a little slow and behind
[10:48] <PKdoR> and  i got them from http://gnome-look.org
[10:48] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i add azureus to application menu, it is installed but not showing in menu editor, how do i make it show?
[10:48] <Bizon> ok thanks Pelo i do this
[10:48] <cdm10> sam1: what version of Ubuntu do you have now?
[10:48] <Pelo> qazibasit,   you can also try doing a search in the forum for the error msg you get , see what fixes it brings up   www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:48] <sam1> noe nrx i need to set ubuntu in my office foe internet sharing server
[10:49] <sam1> i have 6.04
[10:49] <qazibasit> thanks guys
[10:49] <cdm10> Pirate_Hunter: go to the menu editor (right click on applications, hit edit menus) and hit add. For name, icon, and description, put whatever you want, and for command put azureus
[10:49] <keito> WILL sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop remove all traces of kde?
[10:49] <sam1> 6.06 lts
[10:49] <GB_> jrib: ok, thanks than I will try it myself too
[10:49] <cdm10> sam1: follow the site.
[10:49] <cdm10> keito: no.
[10:49] <sam1> ok
[10:49] <Pirate_Hunter> cdm10: kk
[10:49] <marthip> how con i change boot order?
[10:49] <keito> cdm10: what will?
[10:49] <cdm10> keito: autoremove might (sudo apt-get autoremove)
[10:49] <sam1> but the other thing my cdrom is hanging my pc
[10:49] <cdm10> keito: but even that didn't work for me. I went through and just hand-removed all the packages that I didn't want.
[10:50] <[nrx] > sam1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[10:50] <Pelo> marthip,  for the grub menu ?   gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:50] <keito> cdm10: will it remove the xine libraries?
[10:50] <cdm10> keito: I don't know.
[10:50] <xyz> is there a DEFAULT keyboard shortcut to bring up the terminal?
[10:50] <bruenig> no
[10:50] <xyz> :(
[10:50] <sam1> ok nrx
[10:50] <keito> cdm10: my amarok mp3 playback broke and I can;'t get it working again
[10:50] <cdm10> xyz: no, but you can set one in System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:50] <PKdoR> I get an invalid file format when installing itther themes or icon please help
[10:50] <ubuntux> hey
[10:50] <cdm10> keito: I can't help you there.
[10:50] <[nrx] > xyz: ctrl + alt + f1
[10:50] <xyz> i know, but thanks
[10:51] <PKdoR> Im going bal over this
[10:51] <cdm10> PKdoR: you didn't answer my quesiton when I was trying to help.
[10:51] <Pelo> xyz, I changed my  windows key to do that from menu > system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[10:51] <keito> cdm10: ok, thanks anyway
[10:51] <Judgegeo> jrib: I Dont really understand the instructions very well. How do i create the hash?
[10:51] <cdm10> xyz: is your system frozen and you need to get to a terminal to un-freeze it?
[10:51] <ubuntux> i'm having a tough time getting a belkin 7050 usb wifi card to work
[10:51] <PKdoR> they are gz.tar and i got them from http://gnome-look.org
[10:51] <jrib> Judgegeo: what OS are you using at the moment?
[10:51] <xyz> cdm10: no, i was just wondering
[10:51] <Pelo> later folks
[10:51] <ubuntux> anyone in here good with that kind of stuff?
[10:51] <xyz> i just like to know the default stuff
[10:52] <cdm10> PKdoR: can you send me a link to the particular theme you were trying to download?
[10:52] <Judgegeo> jrib: My laptop (where the ISO is stored) is running Windows XP SP2
[10:52] <ubuntux> i havn't been on ubutnu for a while and i forgot a lot of the basics
[10:52] <PKdoR> sure
[10:52] <cdm10> PKdoR: and, did you drag the tar.gz directly into the themes window?
[10:52] <jrib> Judgegeo: k, did you download the md5sum.exe program?
[10:52] <ubuntux> i'm googleing as well but not finding much
[10:52] <Judgegeo> jrib: Yes
[10:53] <Judgegeo> jrib: I saved it into system32
[10:53] <jrib> Judgegeo: did you cd to the directory where your iso is saved?
[10:53] <vocx> ubuntux, look for the hardware in ubuntuforums.org probably someone has already prepared a howto for you.
[10:53] <Judgegeo> jrib: Yes my desktop "cd desktop"
[10:53] <bruenig> cd Desktop
[10:53] <ubuntux> ok
[10:53] <jrib> he's on windows
[10:54] <bruenig> hmm
[10:54] <avt3kk> is there free internet tv for ubuntu?
[10:55] <PKdoR> here is the link http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Tux+G2?content=39873
[10:55] <jrib> Judgegeo: ok, just do 'mdsum name_of_your_iso'
[10:55] <cdm10> !who | PKdoR
[10:55] <ubotu> PKdoR: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[10:55] <bruenig> free internet tv would not be for ubuntu
[10:55] <avt3kk> can I try?
[10:55] <cdm10> PKdoR: that's actually a GDM theme, not a Gnome theme. You need to set that up in System>Administration>Login Window
[10:55] <avt3kk> Bruenig I want to try some kind of free internet tv for ubuntu
[10:56] <Judgegeo> jrib: mdsum not a regonised command
[10:56] <jrib> avt3kk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Octoshape has some channels, mostly international
[10:56] <avt3kk> ook ty
[10:56] <jrib> Judgegeo: how about md5sum.exe instead
[10:56] <ubuntu-> avt3kk: see zattoo
[10:56] <sam1> is it important to update the ubuntu ??
[10:56] <jrib> sam1: yes
[10:56] <Proxosi> Pelo  I  installed beryl manager what else i need i need to install?
[10:56] <sam1> why
[10:56] <cdm10> sam1: you probably should, updates contain fixes and security updates that could be important.
[10:57] <avt3kk> is zattoo in synaptic?
[10:57] <Sajes> Why are the help pages https? it's not like you're entering any personal information or anything...
[10:57] <sam1> hmmmm
[10:57] <cdm10> avt3kk: I don't know, search for it.
[10:57] <[nrx] > SAje
[10:57] <ubuntu-> avt3kk: see http://www.howtoforge.com/zattoo_live_tv_ubuntu
[10:57] <[nrx] > Sajes: why not? :)
[10:57] <PKdoR> ohhh
[10:57] <chemotax> is live cd or dvd?
[10:57] <cdm10> chemotax: livecd
[10:57] <Judgegeo> jrib: Okay, seemed to work. I got no error. But looks like nothing happened?
[10:57] <sam1> is ubuntu is relaiable server for network ??
[10:57] <chemotax> no dvd bootable?
[10:57] <PriceChild> sam1, "yes"
[10:57] <jrib> Judgegeo: you should have gotten some output
[10:58] <cdm10> chemotax: I think there used to be one, not sure if there is now... but there would be no point, it all fits on a CD.
[10:58] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Sorry, DC'ed
[10:58] <Proxosi> I just installed beryl on Kubuntu Feisty Fawn with Nvidia drivers and when I started beryl I lost my windows decorations. Can anyone help?
[10:58] <jrib> Judgegeo1: DC'ed?
[10:58] <sam1> my cdrom stucks my pc n its new pc so what to do ??
[10:58] <cdm10> !effects | Proxosi
[10:58] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Disconnected
[10:58] <ubotu> Proxosi: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <chemotax> cdm10 I have no cd
[10:58] <chemotax> only dvd
[10:58] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Hence the reason for a username change hehe =)
[10:58] <cdm10> sam1: first of all, 1 ? is sufficient. Second of all, that's a hardware issue, not a software issue.
[10:59] <ubuntux> anyone familure with ndiswrapper:?
[10:59] <Bizon> Pelo > i can't find any article in the ubuntu help forum about what ATI cards uses instead of xorg.conf :-/
[10:59] <jrib> Judgegeo1: k, you should have gotten some output
[10:59] <jrib> !ndiswrapper > ubuntux (read the private message from ubotu)
[10:59] <Judgegeo1> jrib: No, didnt get anything.
[10:59] <ubuntux> thanks
[10:59] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Oh wait, it just came up
[10:59] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Now i have the hash, what do i do? =P
[11:00] <cdm10> Judgegeo1: compare it to the one from the Ubuntu hash site
[11:00] <jrib> Judgegeo1: make sure it agrees with http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/MD5SUMS
[11:00] <ubuntu-> chemotax: you can get a blank cd very cheap.  if not, there is a dvd version of ubuntu here: http://ubuntustudio.org
[11:00] <Spellitic> can anyone help me installing Ubuntu in my external hard drive? I'm using the Live CD right now, and I don't want to loose anything in my current hard drives. I've serached a lot, but I couldn't find  a comprehensive guide on how to do that. Particularly, I need help on partitioning my hard drive. I am very afraid of that partition screen in the "install" app.
[11:00] <chemotax> ubuntu- man
[11:01] <jrib> chemotax: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ dvd images for ubuntu
[11:01] <chemotax> I need to boot from DVD
[11:01] <Judgegeo1> jrib: It matches exactly to: e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a *ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[11:01] <PKdoR> ok
[11:01] <chemotax> is this dvd bootable ?pub/linux/ubuntu-releases/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[11:01] <jrib> Judgegeo1: k, let me send you the directions on burning then
[11:01] <Bizon> Hi, I tried to force the 100hz vertical sync in etc/X11/xorg.conf by adding the line "VertRefresh 100-100" in the"Monitor" section, but i haven't noticed a change in the vert sync so far :-(
[11:01] <jrib> chemotax: yes
[11:01] <jrib> !burn > Judgegeo1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:02] <ParmoMike> hey anyone here active?
[11:02] <[nrx] > !ask | ParmoMike
[11:02] <ubotu> ParmoMike: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:02] <[nrx] > :P
[11:03] <ParmoMike> lol
[11:03] <cdm10> ParmoMike: have you been paying attention? We're all talking and answering/asking questions.
[11:03] <[nrx] > this place is never dead
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> it was a little slow on christmas..lol
[11:03] <ParmoMike> no i know - it's jus i joined and no1 said anything in like 5 secs so i thought no1 was here :P:)
[11:03] <avt3kk> im having problems putting a link to libjvm.so with setup.cfg for octoshape
[11:03] <PriceChild> cdm10, he only just joined
[11:03] <cdm10> You shoulda seen it the day of Feisty's release...
[11:03] <[nrx] > 5 seconds!?
[11:03] <[nrx] > dude.
[11:03] <cdm10> PriceChild: ah, I have thingies turned off. Thingies meaning join/part messages.
[11:03] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Okay, downloading the burning software they recomend.
[11:04] <ubuntu-> Judgegeo1: these instructions take you visually thru md5sum and burning ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[11:04] <ParmoMike> lol
[11:04] <Judgegeo1> jrib: One thing i've noticed about linux is i can download at over 200kbs, on windows im lucky to achieve 40kbs..
[11:04] <jrib> Judgegeo1: nice
[11:04] <cdm10> Judgegeo1: That's really strange...
[11:04] <ParmoMike> I've been having a freezing problem on ubuntu - just managed to repair XP. Looking for some advice...
[11:05] <cdm10> Judgegeo: are you still in control (connected) to Judgegeo, or are you just on Judgegeo1 and Judgegeo is a ghost?
[11:05] <Judgegeo1> jrib/cdm10: Youre telling me.. Then again i have changed some settings on windows that could effect it.
[11:05] <Judgegeo1> cdm10: Judgegeo is a ghost im afraid =(
[11:06] <cdm10> Judgegeo: maybe the ops can kick it, it's getting really annoying when trying to tab-complete you :)
[11:06] <cdm10> Judgegeo1: now do /nick Judgegeo
[11:07] <Judgegeo1> cdm10: thanks
[11:07] <jrib> cdm10: it's likely still on the network, just not on the channel
[11:07] <cdm10> jrib: ah, good point
[11:07] <cdm10> Judgegeo1: never mind, that won't work
[11:07] <Judgegeo1> cdm10: Hm.. yes already in use. Then also said server load to heavy =P
[11:07] <cdm10> jrib: at least i can tab-complete him :)
[11:07] <doug_> does anyone know why the music sounds alittle slow but my music videos and movies sound just fine?
[11:08] <Madkiss> hi all
[11:08] <orkid> cuz its 48kbps?
[11:08] <Madkiss> can somebody provide me with a list of things that have changed in gutsy? esp. i would like to know whether there were any installer-improvements.
[11:08] <orkid> and it's polaying it as 44.1?
[11:08] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Just setting up and about to burn
[11:08] <doug_> orkid,  who you talking too?
[11:09] <orkid> the music person
[11:09] <doug_> oh orkid  how do i fix this?
[11:10] <Judgegeo1> jirb: Thanks for the help so far, sorry for being a pain
[11:11] <rediz_> cant conect to web with net gear usb wireless card. i've put in web key but still locked
[11:11] <ubuntu-> Judgegeo1: these instructions take you visually thru md5sum and burning ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso
[11:12] <doug_> orkid,  how can i make it go faster?
[11:12] <Lyv> hi :)
[11:12] <Judgegeo1> ubuntu-: Thanks, have already got it up
[11:13] <Lyv> is anybody here who can help me with a themes issue?
[11:13] <ubuntux> i cant find this driver..
[11:13] <Lyv> in gnome
[11:13] <cdm10> !anyone | Lyv
[11:13] <ubuntux> zd1211-driver-r83.tgz
[11:13] <ubotu> Lyv: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:13] <shaft0> Does anyone know where I can find the HorizSync and VertRefresh values I need for my LC-27R25 Prima Television to get Xorg to work correctly?
[11:13] <Lyv> ok
[11:14] <shaft0> hmm, should have read previous line ;)
[11:14] <gordonjcp> shaft0: if it's a TV, you can probably work it out from your local TV standard
[11:14] <Lyv> Does anybody know how I can make my theme controls/icons update when I change them after going from a normal gnome to gnome with xgl?
[11:14] <shaft0> gordonjcp: what do you mean local TV standard, like NTSC?
[11:15] <gordonjcp> shaft0: yeah
[11:15] <gordonjcp> shaft0: unless it's an LCD/Plasma in which case it's anybody's guess, try EDID
[11:15] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Im going to make a cup of tea while it burns ;)
[11:15] <shaft0> haha, yeah, LCD, my mistake, should have specified
[11:15] <shaft0> EDID?
[11:15] <ubuntux> http://zd1211.ath.cx/download/zd1211-driver-r83.tgz
[11:15] <gordonjcp> shaft0: I have a PC set up to scan at PAL rates, with the TV connected to the video card
[11:15] <ubuntux> i get sent there but i still cant fing the driver i need
[11:15] <ubuntux> find*
[11:15] <abadtooth> hey guys is there a wine channel on this IRC server?
[11:16] <ex_> hi
[11:16] <doug_> i am having sound problems with my audio music i can play everything else perfect just whne it comes to audio like .mp3/.wma/.ogg and others it  seems to run alittle slow i am on a toshiba satellite laptop  i dont know the sound card  sorry but earlyer it was working just fine now it is acting a little slow and behind i dont know how else to explain this but say u play a heavy metal song running at say 5 seconds behind its normal play time is hwo it kinda s
[11:16] <doug_> ounds i have not installed/uninstalled /updated anything since and it was working perfect this morning if anyone has any ideas hwo to fixthis please help
[11:16] <shaft0> my tv is also connected via VGA to the video card
[11:16] <ex_> what do you guys recommend for an IRC client?
[11:16] <ubuntux> xchat
[11:16] <abadtooth> Gaim
[11:16] <Lyv> is there a compiz/etc channel?
[11:16] <shaft0> xchat
[11:16] <shaft0> :P
[11:16] <jebblue> gaim
[11:16] <ubuntux> wanna help me out shaft?
[11:16] <ex_> Okay I am using XChat right now, how can I view all the users in the channel? And not just the one who type
[11:16] <jacob_> anybody knows how to install additional software to play dvd movies in ubuntu?
[11:17] <cdm10> Can anyone send me a message with the N with a ~ above it used in spanish (both upper and lowercase)? I cannot for the life of me find it in Character Map.
[11:17] <Lyv> Does anybody know how I can make my theme controls/icons update when I change them after going from a normal gnome to gnome with xgl?
[11:17] <ubuntux> apt get mplayer?
[11:17] <abadtooth> Does anyone know what command I should type on the end of this to make it windowed? wine ArmyOps.exe
[11:17] <jacob_> this is like my third attept but needed to reinstall ubuntu to fix a driver problem
[11:17] <libervisco> Why doesn't hald work on Ubuntu Feisty on a laptop?
[11:17] <BernieMac> Lyv, you might want to try the #ubuntu-effects channel
[11:17] <libervisco> Why could it be?
[11:17] <cdm10> !dvd | jacob_
[11:17] <ubotu> jacob_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:17] <Lyv> cheers bernie
[11:18] <abadtooth> anyone?
[11:18] <whileimhere> Hi can anyone tell me how to recursivly move a folder of files to another location
[11:18] <abadtooth> !wine
[11:18] <NMajik> How can I determine the filesystem type of a device if it isn't mounted?
[11:18] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:18] <ex_> fdisk -l
[11:18] <ex_> in terminal
[11:18] <jebblue> abadtooth: not sure but you can run winecfg and turn on the desktop there
[11:18] <abadtooth> jebblue: ok let me check that..
[11:18] <jebblue> i use that to run old unreal and steam
[11:18] <shaft0> is EDID in the repos?
[11:18] <jebblue> and Bryce 3D
[11:18] <Judgegeo1> jriv: What would you recomend? KDE or gnome?
[11:18] <dadaaa> hi i need to get the source code for ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-29-386 and i was wondering where i woudl get that?
[11:18] <chemotax> repos
[11:18] <jrib> whileimhere: mv OLD NEW
[11:19] <chemotax> sssssssss
[11:19] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 GNOME
[11:19] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 GNOME
[11:19] <NMajik> ex_: On a related note... how can I mount a device if cat indicates it's not empty but fdisk -l says the System is "Empty"?
[11:19] <chemotax> KDA Sucksssssssssssss
[11:19] <Judgegeo1> chemotax: Any specific reasons?
[11:19] <Warsocket> Gnome, I think its more stable and less resource intensive
[11:19] <jrib> Judgegeo1: I like GNOME, but I recommend trying both if you are new and seeing which one you like.  You can have both available to you and choose when you login which one you want to load
[11:19] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 its slow
[11:19] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 its very low configurable
[11:19] <cdm10> ha, kde not very configurable?
[11:19] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 unstable
[11:19] <cdm10> right...
[11:19] <PKdoR> ! ok
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <cdm10> !enter | chemotax
[11:20] <ubotu> chemotax: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:20] <ex_> NMajik Whats the device name
[11:20] <chemotax> cdm10 stfu
[11:20] <ubuntux> i cant seem to find the driver listed in the tutorial... zd1211-driver-r83.tgz
[11:20] <NMajik> ex_: sdb1
[11:20] <jrib> chemotax: please respect others in this channel
[11:20] <chemotax> its not configurable at all
[11:20] <whileimhere> jrib: I want to move the contents of a folder to another folder not move the whole folder. Will that work?
[11:20] <Judgegeo1> jrib: I've only used linux once before, that was with Mandrake a few years ago. I gave up after my sound drivers wouldnt work
[11:20] <ubuntux> would someone mind helping me track it down please?
[11:20] <cdm10> chemotax: it's more configurable than Gnome, I don't know what you're talking about.
[11:20] <jrib> whileimhere: ah, then: mv folder/{*,.*} new_folder
[11:20] <Judgegeo1> jrib: That was only time i've used KDE.
[11:20] <dadaaa> hi i need to get the source code for ubuntu kernel 2.6.15-29-386 and i was wondering where i woudl get that?
[11:20] <chemotax> it doesnt allow you to specify double click speed, cursor speed, etc
[11:20] <BernieMac> !stfu | chemotax
[11:20] <ubotu> chemotax: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[11:21] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Good news! The CD works this time
[11:21] <jrib> Judgegeo1: great
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> Judgegeo1: you'll be pleasantly surprised, distros have come a logn away, especially ubuntu
[11:21] <ex_> NMajik give this a shot make a directory in your /mnt folder called anything then type this mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/"name of the directory you made"
[11:21] <mindrape> dada - sudo apt-get install kernel-2.6.15-29-386-source probably
[11:21] <jrib> !kernel > dadaaa (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:21] <avt3kk> will this work in dapper? http://www.getmiro.com/download/ubuntu.php
[11:21] <Warsocket> distro's for user friendlyness yes
[11:21] <chemotax> gnoome is the way to go
[11:21] <Warsocket> I think Ubuntu and pclinuxOS are well suited for new linux users
[11:22] <chemotax> or xfce
[11:22] <avt3kk> will miro work in dapper?
[11:22] <Judgegeo1> IndyGunFreak: Always wanted to use linux over windows. Just gaming etc stops me. But i decided i want to learn new things.
[11:22] <ubuntu-> avt3kk: i don't know about dapper, but yeah, miro was the other tv app I was trying to remember, glad you found it :)
[11:22] <NMajik> ex_: "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> i consider KDE just flat out unuseable.
[11:22] <avt3kk> I signed up on the list for the other one
[11:22] <Ant1j1> how can I watch tv with my tv tuner on ubuntu
[11:22] <Ashfire908> how do i delete all the files and folders in a folder from the command line?
[11:22] <Warsocket> only pclinuxos uses kDE standard AND it only had i386 version
[11:22] <avt3kk> waiting list lol
[11:22] <chemotax> yeah
[11:22] <Ant1j1> how can I watch tv with my tv tuner on ubuntu
[11:22] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Has anyone designed a GUI that matches XP?
[11:22] <_ubuntu_newbie_> I need a help accessing microsoft network from my ubuntu Pc
[11:22] <cdm10> IndyGunFreak: it's not that bad... I prefer Gnome, but I really don't think it's terrible.
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: depends on the tv card.
[11:22] <Warsocket> sudo rm *
[11:23] <chemotax> Judgegeo1 its xpde
[11:23] <Ant1j1> Hauppage
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> cdm10: i hate it.
[11:23] <Warsocket> sudo rm -r *
[11:23] <avt3kk> is there like internet tv in flash?
[11:23] <jrib> Judgegeo1: there are a few themes that do a good job
[11:23] <Warsocket> if there subfolders
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: well there's a lot of hauppage cards.
[11:23] <keito> can anyone help me with mp3 playback... it has suddenly stopped working with all xine-engine based players.  other players are fine still.  this post is the exact same error, it hasn't been answered 80( http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D410056&ei=WpntRtKGHpSkwgHN9ZyQCg&usg=AFQjCNGgZKUup3O3WQc5JNHkCqui9SJySw&sig2=fIcSgty9O1qyWd70X8ebrg
[11:23] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:23] <thedonvaughn> Judgegeo1, almost every wm or DE matches XP's GUI.  XP's guy is crap imo
[11:23] <avt3kk> I found 1 site but the only thing that works is the pron haha
[11:23] <Ant1j1> Hauppage WinPVR 150
[11:23] <ubuntu-> Ant1j1: check out mythtv
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: do you have VLC installed?
[11:23] <avt3kk> I do
[11:23] <jrib> Warsocket: try to address the person you give that command to :)
[11:23] <Judgegeo1> Jrib/Chemotax: Ah thanks.
[11:23] <Ant1j1> I HATE MYTHTV
[11:23] <Ant1j1> HATE IT
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> i couln't get mythtv to work.
[11:23] <chemotax> np yw
[11:23] <Ant1j1> MYTHTV IS PURE SHIT
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: do you have VLC installed?
[11:23] <avt3kk> war should I rm -rf? :P
[11:23] <Ant1j1> no
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: install vlc
[11:24] <Ant1j1> i do not
 check your PM
[11:24] <avt3kk> is that what you said hahaha :P jk
[11:24] <Ant1j1> ok
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:24] <Warsocket> im kinda new to IRC how do i send a PM then ?
[11:24] <jrib> Ant1j1: relax please
[11:24] <cdm10> Warsocket: please don't mention that command.
[11:24] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:24] <PriceChild> Ant1j1, please calm down, this isn't the place.
[11:24] <keito> Ant1j1: why you say that?
[11:24] <PriceChild> !offtopic | keito
[11:24] <ubotu> keito: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:24] <Ashfire908> how do you copy all the files and folders from one folder to another? -r *?
[11:24] <Ant1j1> Package vnc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:24] <Ant1j1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:24] <Ant1j1> is only available from another source
[11:24] <Ant1j1> However the following packages replace it:
[11:24] <Ant1j1>   vncserver xvncviewer
[11:24] <ItchyHoBo> hi ppl
[11:24] <scottDkoDer> What is ppc?
[11:24] <avt3kk> war your new I hope you know rm -rf messes up your linux lol
[11:24] <cdm10> !paste | Ant1j1
[11:24] <nalioth> scottDkoDer: power pc
[11:24] <sam1> cdm1o : plz give me again ubuntu update site
[11:24] <keito> PriceChild: why is this offtopic? its down to the latest ubuntu amarok backport update
[11:24] <scottDkoDer> ahh, thx
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: VLC, not vnc
[11:24] <keito> ?
[11:24] <chemotax> those ubotu bot commands should be send in private!!! fix it immediately!!!
[11:25] <ubotu> Ant1j1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:25] <Ant1j1> o woops lol
[11:25] <ItchyHoBo> can somebody help me on how to renew my ip in ububtu
[11:25] <cdm10> chemotax: no, they shouldn't. Calm down.
[11:25] <Guigou33> je taime
[11:25] <ItchyHoBo> *ubuntu
[11:25] <cdm10> !attitude | chemotax
[11:25] <ubotu> chemotax: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:25] <nalioth> Ant1j1: pasting is rude and is discourteous on irc.  it is also counterproductive.  please use a !pastebin in the future  :)
[11:25] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Installing now. Everything seems to be running fine.. for now ;P
[11:25] <PriceChild> keito, with regards to why mythtv is bad in his opinion
[11:25] <chemotax> the '!attitude | chemotax' should be displayed here man
[11:25] <Guigou33> i m french so i fuck you
[11:25] <keito> Warsocket: in xchat rightclick the user & "open dialog window"
[11:25] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:25] <Ant1j1> ok sry
[11:25] <chemotax> Guigou33 you don;t
[11:25] <jrib> !fr | Guigou33
[11:25] <ubotu> Guigou33: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:25] <Warsocket> ok
[11:25] <NMajik> ex_: Sorry, I'm not familiar with Gaim. And it doesn't appear that a new tab opened. How can I check the PM?
[11:25] <keito> PriceChild: aha, collio
[11:25] <avt3kk> whats guis problem lol
[11:25] <cdm10> avt3kk: no, rm -rf doesn't mess up your linux... it's used for removing folders. However, the command that Warsocket sent has some other parts that can be very damaging.
[11:25] <keito> PriceChild: coolio, (doh)
[11:26] <Guigou33> no i love english shit
[11:26] <PriceChild> cdm10, its not used for removing folders...
[11:26] <PriceChild> cdm10, that's for rmdir
[11:26] <chemotax> !gr | Guigou33
[11:26] <ubotu> Guigou33: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[11:26] <avt3kk> ook ty
[11:26] <Ant1j1> ok I installed vlc
[11:26] <PriceChild> Guigou33, please watch your language.
[11:26] <dadaaa> when i attempted to run my driver package, it told me it couldnt find my kernel source
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: did vlc install?
[11:26] <Ant1j1> yes
[11:26] <Guigou33> geek
[11:26] <cdm10> PriceChild: rm -rf /home/folder/ will remove a folder and its contents, right?
[11:26] <Ant1j1> I have it
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[11:26] <thedonvaughn> PriceChild, a)  What's a folder?  It's directories in unix.  b)  rm -rf does remove a directory  -r = recursive - f = force
[11:26] <PriceChild> cdm10, oh yes
[11:26] <chemotax> there is a mistake in this translation, I will tell you to fix it if you mention my name
[11:26] <ItchyHoBo> can anybody help me renew my ip?
[11:26] <chemotax> as a contributor
[11:26] <ex_> Anyone know a good IRC channel to download some tunes
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: now, sudo apt-get install ivtv-utils
[11:26] <cdm10> PriceChild: and, you should know, Warsocket mentioned The Command That Deletes Everything for no apparent reason.
[11:26] <Ashfire908> chemotax, !command > nick for pm
[11:26] <dadaaa> this is the name of the file i got for my driver
[11:26] <PriceChild> thedonvaughn, he said folder so i used it
[11:26] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:26] <cdm10> !warez | ex_
[11:26] <ubotu> ex_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[11:26] <thedonvaughn> ItchyHoBo, sudo dhclient <interface>
[11:26] <PriceChild> thedonvaughn, I am well aware of rm
[11:26] <Guigou33> fuck the girl
[11:26] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: As a thank you is there so way to donate ?
[11:26] <atlfalcons866> who uses JFS
[11:27] <Ant1j1> ok its installed
[11:27] <keito> !offtopic | ex_
[11:27] <ubotu> ex_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:27] <avt3kk> no internet tv yet but I got to go cya guys
[11:27] <ItchyHoBo> doesn't work says something that my ip address is bound
[11:27] <Warsocket> Somneone asked about deleting all stuff in a dir
[11:27] <keito> lol
 thats fine, what is the file system you are trying to mount?
[11:27] <avt3kk> :(
[11:27] <ItchyHoBo> my dhcp leasi is 3 days
[11:27] <chemotax> Ashfire908 I say the command you type, you should send it as a pm to the bot
[11:27] <Ant1j1> ivtv installed
[11:27] <jrib> dadaaa: are you using the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repositories?
[11:27] <ItchyHoBo> how can i release it
[11:27] <cdm10> Warsocket: and you sent them the command that deletes EVERY FILE on EVERY DISK attached to the system. That's not funny.
[11:27] <dadaaa> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[11:27] <EJ> \\'elcome ack Seeker`
[11:27] <dadaaa> thats wat its called
[11:27] <Warsocket> no
[11:27] <dadaaa> but i got it from nvidia.com
[11:27] <chemotax> there is a mistake in the bot's translation, I will tell you to fix it if you mention my name as a contributor
[11:27] <the^user> hi
[11:27] <NMajik> ex_: That's the problem. fdisk -l lists the filesystem as "Empty"
[11:27] <Ant1j1> ivtv installed
[11:27] <jrib> !nvidia > dadaaa (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: open VLC, then File, Open Capture Device, then PVR Tab, then click OK.
[11:28] <ubuntux> this blows
[11:28] <ex_> NMajik okay have you formatted it?
[11:28] <Judgegeo1> I'm glad i went to the trouble of installing ubuntu, i have a mandriva 2007 disk right next to me that was my last resort
[11:28] <ubuntux> i need to have internet access to make my internet wirk...
[11:28] <Ant1j1> aw sweet
[11:28] <Ant1j1> nice
[11:28] <avt3kk> im waiting for the email from the waiting list....
[11:28] <ubuntux> great..
[11:28] <Ashfire908> chemotax, ubotu is not your bot.
[11:28] <Ant1j1> thx
[11:28] <NMajik> ex_: Nope, I actually just noticed that it existed
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: only thing that sucks, is remote doesn't work for some reason.
[11:28] <atlfalcons866> is it safe to delete everything in /var
[11:28] <chemotax> Ashfire908 whose is it?
[11:28] <Ant1j1> meh I dont care about remote
[11:28] <PriceChild> atlfalcons866, NO
[11:28] <jrib> dadaaa: try following the wiki instructions, that's the best way to install the drivers
[11:28] <thedonvaughn> atlfalcons866, not at all
[11:28] <Ant1j1> how do I change channel
[11:29] <PriceChild> atlfalcons866, NEVER just randomly delete anything outside of your home
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> Ant1j1: type this w/o quotes, and i'll show you how if ixed it.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[11:29] <cdm10> Ant1j1: /join #channel
[11:29] <n2Ob> hi, when is 7.10 going to be released?
[11:29] <[nrx] > type /join #channel
[11:29] <ex_> NMajik heh it is showing that way because it is probably unallocated space, you must format it as ext3 or filesystem of your choice in order to mount it
[11:29] <Ashfire908> chemotax, idk but it's not yours so you can't dictate how it should works.
[11:29] <[nrx] > 040
[11:29] <cdm10> !gutsy | n2Ob
[11:29] <ubotu> n2Ob: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:29] <[nrx] > !040
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 040 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <[nrx] > !o4o
[11:29] <_ubuntu_newbie_> Please I need help accessing microsoft network from ubuntu pc. does anyone know some link that could help?
[11:29] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[11:29] <PriceChild> [nrx] , please stop
[11:29] <ubuntu-> cdm10:  [nrx] : he is talking about vlc and a tv tuner card
[11:29] <n2Ob> cdm10, thanks
[11:29] <jrib> !donate > Judgegeo1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:29] <[nrx] > PriceChild: just wanted to see what it was, god.
[11:29] <doug_> here is the problem i am having if someone can give me a hand on it please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552557
[11:29] <PriceChild> !msgthebot | [nrx] 
[11:29] <ubotu> [nrx] : Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:29] <cdm10> !msgthebot | [nrx] 
[11:29] <cdm10> Damn, PriceChild beat me :)
[11:30] <dadaaa> thanx jrib im reading that guide right now
[11:30] <[nrx] > ahh, didn't know about that. Sorry guys :)
[11:30] <cdm10> np
[11:30] <chemotax> Ashfire908 its HAS A MISTAKE, can you understand this mister?
[11:30] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Thanks for the link
[11:30] <NMajik> ex_: I would assume that's the case if it was a HDD. This is on an iPod. All the real info seems to be on sdb2 but sdb1 exists and has *something* in it
[11:30] <cdm10> !attitude | chemotax
[11:30] <ubotu> chemotax: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:30] <NMajik> ex_: *a used HDD
[11:30] <rocunreal> I hooked up a second Hard Drive to my Computer a windows XP  NTFS File system :: how come i dont see it on Ubuntu can i refresh it to find this HardDrive?  ( it showed up while booting my PC has a seconary Slave What do i need to do?
[11:30] <chemotax> !help | cdm10
[11:30] <ubotu> cdm10: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:30] <Warsocket> Btw on my laptop I have 2gb Ram and 2 gb of swap (for suspend) and swapiness set to 0 is that then the logic config for performance or not?
[11:30] <ex_> NMajik Oh okay, so this is an iPod you are trying to mount?
[11:30] <Ashfire908> chemotax, deal with it.
[11:30] <Lyv> Does anybody know how I can make my theme controls/icons update when I change them after going from a normal gnome to gnome with xgl?
[11:31] <avt3kk> look at tendrels this is my backround :)        http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/dbgallery/psp.shtml
[11:31] <NMajik> ex_: Not really, I was just interested to find the second partition. I've had no issues with mounting sdb2 so far
[11:31] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:31] <avt3kk> toolbar backround also haha
[11:31] <avt3kk> toolbars
[11:31] <rocunreal> How do i Mount my Second HDD NTFS HardDrive i hooked up?
[11:31] <avt3kk> you see?
[11:31] <Seveas> !ntfs | rocunreal
[11:31] <ubotu> rocunreal: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:31] <rocunreal> thanks
[11:32] <ex_> NMajik Cool, I will have to find out it could be something to do with the IPODS firmware that they leave a certain amount of space left over for something
[11:32] <cdm10> Seveas: chemotax is bot-spamming me
[11:32] <Ashfire908> cdm10: use /ignore
[11:32] <ex_> NMajik will have to plug mine in and take a look :D
[11:32] <Jnaut> never been here
[11:32] <Seveas> @admin ignore add chemotax
[11:32] <ubotu> OK
[11:32] <Seveas> cdm10, not anymore :)
[11:32] <NMajik> ex_: Sounds good, thanks
[11:32] <cdm10> Ashfire908: I don't want to ignore ubotu
[11:32] <avt3kk> cya guys
[11:32] <marcus> hello i was just wondering if there is a way to install a command line only system?
[11:33] <cdm10> Seveas: ha, thanks
[11:33] <Ashfire908> cdm10: lol i though you meant he was useing his own bot to spam you
[11:33] <cdm10> marcus: yeah, there's a server CD.
[11:33] <cdm10> Ashfire908: oh, no, he was using ubotu :)
[11:33] <cdm10> Ashfire908: thanks for your concern, though
[11:33] <P3nnywise> when i start ubuntu it doesnt work and xserver shows me this msg:  Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?. How can i fix it?
[11:33] <Lyv> Does anybody know how I can make my theme controls/icons update when I change them after going from a normal gnome to gnome with xgl?
[11:33] <neztit1> hi guys - can some one help me http://pastebin.com/m53242877
[11:33] <ubuntux> so how am i supposed to install a wifi driver when i dont have internet?
[11:33] <cdm10> ubuntux: plug it into ethernet.
[11:33] <Seveas> !repeat | Lyv
[11:33] <ubotu> Lyv: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:34] <jrib> !wifi > ubuntux (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:34] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: I have a guide infront of me for the setup of a LAMP, but if i run into any trouble can i ask you?
[11:34] <marcus> okay now second question will i still be able to run a graphic desktop like xfce locally from the command line system without it loading each and every time?
[11:34] <ubuntu-> ubuntux: you can use a wired connection
[11:34] <ubuntux> it doesn't work
[11:34] <jrib> Judgegeo1: sure, are you using the guide on help.ubuntu.com?
[11:34] <Seveas> !compiling | neztit1
[11:34] <ubotu> neztit1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:34] <cdm10> Lyv: I saw your question multiple times... I'm not entirely sure what you mean, could you clarify?
[11:34] <Jnaut> this place is lievelyer than others
[11:34] <Judgegeo1> jrib: I'm using this; http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[11:34] <jrib> !lamp > Judgegeo1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:34] <Lyv> yes, i have installed compiz by following this: http://blog.stephanbuys.com/2007/04/compiz-and-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-ati-x1400.html   and it works
[11:34] <ubuntux> i have a DQ35JO intel mobo
[11:34] <Lyv> except i cannot change the themes and the icons
[11:35] <Lyv> everything goes to ugly default
[11:35] <ubuntux> the onboard isn't supported
[11:35] <ex_> NMajik I also have this, I don't know if your firmilar with the term "Low Leveling Formatting" but I think this is why 2GB IPods dont show up as the two 2GBS its always like 1.74. When they low level format it, something we cannot do, it allocates space for the partition table and such. Again this is just a guess
[11:35] <marcus> see i do not really need a lamp just a command line system that can run a desktop on demand, but not by default
[11:35] <jrib> Judgegeo1: the help.ubuntu.com gives you a one-liner to setup lamp using tasksel
[11:35] <ubuntu-> neztit1: looks like you may need to install a libiconv package
[11:35] <Lyv> cdm10: I think it's basically not loading some kind of thing that dealts with that
[11:35] <Seveas> marcus, then don't select lamp when installing :)
[11:36] <Judgegeo1> jrib sudo tasksel install lamp-server - yes i just saw.. Thats interesting. Thanks
[11:36] <marcus> Oh that simple huh?
[11:36] <Seveas> marcus, disappointing, isn't it :)
[11:36] <marcus> seveas: thanks.
[11:36] <Lyv> cdm10: I have been told to run gnome-settings-daemon but it doesn't seem to help at all
[11:36] <marcus> seveas yeah kind of
[11:36] <cdm10> Lyv: I'm not sure how to help you, sorry.
[11:36] <EliteInsane> could anyone help me with installing my GFX card on ubuntu?
[11:36] <ubuntux> Intel Gigabit Ethernet (82566DM)
[11:36] <marcus> seveas: kind of easy aint it?
[11:36] <ubuntux> thats the eth0 i have
[11:36] <Lyv> cdm10: it's ok,
[11:37] <ubuntux> it wont even show in ubuntu
[11:37] <ubuntux> and it's plugged in and working
[11:37] <NMajik> ex_:Ah, so this is likely where the firmware is kept?
[11:37] <ubuntux> works on vista and xp
[11:37] <Judgegeo1> jrib: Will i need to re download the new version in october, or can i just update packages?
[11:37] <jrib> Judgegeo1: the update-manager will tell you about it and give you a button to upgrade
[11:37] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Ok thanks
[11:37] <Tired_> Hi.  What is the sudo password for the 7.04 install cd?
[11:37] <jrib> EliteInsane: what card?
[11:38] <faraaz> uhh
[11:38] <faraaz> @Tired: You could just do sudo passwd
[11:38] <mauri_> i need help for amule
[11:38] <jrib> Tired_: it's blank, there isn't one
[11:38] <faraaz> and set it to whatever you want
[11:38] <cdm10> Tired_: There isn't a password, it shouldn't ask you for one
[11:38] <dewboy3d> when using visudo to edit the sudoers file, is there a certain order entries must be made? i have "myuser ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" at the end of the file and i am still prompted for password when using sudo
[11:38] <Seveas> !root | Tired_
[11:38] <Ashfire908> Tired_, the live cd is made without one
[11:38] <ubotu> Tired_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:38] <Tired_> awesome thanks  :)
[11:38] <ex_> NMajik most likely if not the partition table and information about the cluster sizes and what not
[11:38] <[nrx] > I love the matrixesque remarks
[11:38] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Can you reccomend any sites i should bookmark?
[11:39] <NMajik> ex_: Thanks for the explaination
[11:39] <faraaz> i have a question
 np dude
[11:39] <faraaz> can anyone please tell me how to get Windows to work seamlessly through VirtualBox in Xubuntu?
[11:39] <marcus> Thanks for the help yall :)
[11:39] <ubuntu-> Judgegeo1: there are a lot of tutorials on setting up a server in ubuntu: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=ubuntu+feisty+server+tutorial&btnG=Search
[11:39] <cdm10> faraaz: sure. Have you installed the Guest Additions in Windows?
[11:40] <faraaz> i followed the guide on ubuntuforums.org but its not working
[11:40] <faraaz> yes, i have
[11:40] <faraaz> i managed to configure the guest Windows installation to run headless
[11:41] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Not just for server, but for general linux help etc.
[11:41] <faraaz> when I come to point where I have to use rdesktop to remote-login to Windows, it doesn't work
[11:41] <cdm10> faraaz: no, the latest virtualbox automatically does seamlessness.
[11:41] <faraaz> oh
[11:41] <cdm10> faraaz: you don't even need all the rdesktop stuff :)
[11:41] <faraaz> i've got that...its RCTrl+L right??
[11:41] <jrib> Judgegeo1: depends on what you want to do.  help.ubuntu.com, bugs.ubuntu.com, and ubuntuforums.org are good resources.  If you want some good docs to read, tldp.org and the rute book are really good.  And debian.org/doc for some debian docs.  Depends on how in-depth you want to go.  Let me have the bot send you the command line tutorial with some other good links
[11:41] <jrib> !cli > Judgegeo1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:41] <faraaz> i do that...except the screen goes all black
[11:41] <SirBob1701> whats the easiest way to reinstall gnome?
[11:41] <faraaz> and it only shows the desktop when i have a windows app open...otherwise its just black
[11:41] <cdm10> faraaz: it still has some issues, but for the most part, it works. Install the latest VirtualBox and Guest Additions, and go into Seamless mode (one of the menus)
[11:41] <cdm10> faraaz: weird...
[11:41] <Budwaa> how can i fix ubuntus windows name resolution. I think it has broken and taken samba with it.
[11:41] <Random832> what's virtualbox?
[11:42] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Thanks. I would like to get really deep into Linux. Maybe one day fully migrate.
[11:42] <faraaz> @Random: lets you run windows like an app inside linux
[11:42] <jrib> Random832: it's like vmware or qemu.  You run an operating system in a box :)
[11:42] <Random832> ok - how's it better than qemu and where can i get it
[11:42] <faraaz> @cdm10: okay...i have another question...is it possible to get VBox to run seamlessly and show the windows bar on ALL my workspaces instead of just one?
[11:42] <jrib> !virtualbox > Random832 (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:43] <jrib> Random832: just grab the ubuntu deb (or add the repository) from virtualbox's site.  It has a nicer gui and it's faster than qemu
[11:43] <Kworth> whats a good media player for ubuntu?
[11:44] <Random832> ok
[11:44] <jrib> Kworth: music or videos?
[11:44] <Random832> looking up some wikipedia stuff about it
[11:44] <SirBob1701> how do you reinstall gnome?
[11:44] <SirBob1701> is it just ubuntu-desktop?
[11:44] <Kworth> videos
[11:44] <Jnaut> azaroK
[11:44] <Random832> this "ring 1" trick - does it interfere with any known guest OS?
[11:44] <Jnaut> or somethig
[11:44] <jrib> SirBob1701: reinstalling things will usually not do much, what's the real problem?
[11:44] <Bizon> Hi, when i type "man -k alarm", it doesn't find anything but i should find something normally
[11:44] <jrib> Kworth: Totem, mplayer, xine, vlc are all good
[11:44] <Judgegeo1> Jrib: Okay, i have ubuntu up and running. I need to switch over my ethernet connection though. I'll be back in a minute if things go right.
[11:44] <SirBob1701> jrib: compiz fusions segfaulting and the guys in #compiz-fusion think its gnome
[11:45] <SirBob1701> they recommended a reinstall
[11:45] <PKdoR> where is the trash folder I need to un delete some file?
[11:45] <jrib> Bizon: install manpages-dev
[11:45] <Bizon> ok thanks jrib
[11:45] <faraaz> i think its called .Trash-<username> or something like that
[11:45] <faraaz> enable hidden files display
[11:45] <jrib> PKdoR: press ctrl-l when you are in nautilus and type "trash://"
[11:45] <faraaz> you should see it
[11:46] <Budwaa> What variable controls what is shown at the prompt?
[11:46] <bran> Gusty Gibbon still the latest beta?
[11:46] <ex_> hey guys
[11:46] <Seeker`> Budwaa: PS1?
[11:46] <silvertom> hi
[11:46] <ex_> I am running compiz fusion and when I put the settings on desktop cube, i only get like a 1 sides desktop its not a cube, anyone know how to fix this
[11:46] <silvertom> hello
[11:46] <Budwaa> Seeker`: thats it n1
[11:46] <silvertom> what is that ______>>>???
[11:46] <jrib> bran: gutsy isn't beta yet, but ask in #ubuntu+1 about gutsy information
[11:46] <silvertom> i-m new in ubuntu team :P
[11:47] <jrib> ex_: #ubuntu-effects for help with taht
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> silvertom: just ask, if we can help, we will.
[11:47] <PKdoR> can i make a shortcut for the trash folder?
[11:47] <ex_> thanks
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> PKdoR: why would you do that?
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> PKdoR: are you wanting your trash icon on your desktop?
[11:47] <jrib> PKdoR: sure, you can right click on your panel and add it to your panel or you can put it on your desktop
[11:47] <jrib> !icons > PKdoR (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:48] <Bizon> bye
[11:48] <mauri_> i need help for amule
[11:48] <jrib> !ask | mauri_
[11:48] <ubotu> mauri_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:48] <jrib> mauri_: tell the channel what is wrong with amule
[11:49] <mauri_> jrib: amule is connected
[11:49] <mauri_> jrib: but find is not able to find anything
[11:49] <jrib> mauri_: best to ask the channel because I don't know anything about amule, but keep your question on one line
[11:49] <PKdoR> thank you
[11:49] <ex_> #debian
[11:49] <mauri_> amule is connected but find is not able to find anything
[11:49] <ParmoMike> what's a 'usual' partitioning setup? Is it possible my freezing is because I've done this wrong? I've read about someone setting up 2gb for swap - is this a swap file?
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> ParmoMike: whats yoru system specs(ram and processor speed)
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> and also hard drive size
[11:50] <ParmoMike> pentium-d 3.40ghz, 2gb ddr2 ram and 200gb pata
[11:51] <IndyGunFreak> ParmoMike: ok, how much of the 200 is free?
[11:51] <Flannel> ParmoMike: You can setup a swap file, or a swap partition.  Swap files will need to eb setup after install though.
[11:51] <bobgill> How do I disable Flash in Opera ?
[11:51] <ParmoMike> all of it really. there was something on it but i selected to use the entire drive when partitioning so it got deleted
[11:52] <ParmoMike> is there a need to set up a swap file or should i be able to live w/out it
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> ParmoMike: if you chose to use the entire drive, then you likely have a swap partition already
[11:52] <ParmoMike> ahh
[11:53] <alevine> anyone have a suggestion for an ipod shuffle-ish mp3 player that plays nicely with linux?
[11:53] <ParmoMike> actually, when i just repaired windows (on another drive) windows showed there were 2 partitions on the other drive, one was about 5gb i think
[11:53] <ex_> how can i change the color of the user panel and channel panel in xchat?
[11:53] <Flannel> alevine: You might look into rockbox's firmware, on whatever hardware you prefer.
[11:53] <Flannel> !rockbox | alevine
[11:53] <ubotu> alevine: rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[11:54] <alevine> Flannel: i'll check it out, thanks
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> alevine: your ipod should work fine out of the box with Ubuntu.. at least my 3 ipods have.
[11:56] <ParmoMike> can i boot ubuntu into a safe mode or debug mode to see any conflicts that may be happening?
[11:56] <mauri_> amule is connected but find is not able to find anything
[11:57] <Ant1j1> recovery mode if u no ur way around the command prompt
[11:57] <ParmoMike> i dont :(
[11:57] <Flannel> ParmoMike: You can press ctrl-alt-f2 (or is it f6? one of the f keys) to get a verbose boot
[11:57] <alevine> IndyGunFreak: Ipods work fine but i want an mp3 player that's a little more disposable, ~$50
[11:57] <Flannel> ParmoMike: ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back to the GUI
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> alevine: what kind?
[11:57] <ParmoMike> ahh ive done this before unintentionally
[11:58] <ParmoMike> theres f1 all the way upto f6 isnt there
[11:58] <alevine> IndyGunFreak: something like a sandisk sansa, but I want to find one that works well with linux
[11:58] <Flannel> ParmoMike: yeah, and f7 is the gui.  Only one of them is the boot log.
[11:58] <ParmoMike> ah ok
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> alevine: i also had a sandisk(e260 i think), and it worked fine w/o rockbox..
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> but the ipod is better.
[11:59] <DeathWolf> is there any reason after doing a purge on apache2 when I reinstall it it does not reinstall the apache2.conf?
[11:59] <ParmoMike> not sure if that'll help actually. how do i access system logs?
[11:59] <Flannel> DeathWolf: What package did you purge?
[11:59] <alevine> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[11:59] <DeathWolf>  apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> alevine: np..
[11:59] <klinger> part
[12:00] <Flannel> DeathWolf: You need to purge -common, that's the package that has the conf files
[12:00] <DeathWolf> ok
[12:00] <DeathWolf> thanks
[12:00] <doug_> i got a probw ith my sound  i posted it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552557 can someone please help
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: use pastebin to paste the output of lspci....
[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> !paste
[12:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:03] <ParmoMike> why when i click enable from restricted driver manager does nothing happen and it still stays red?
[12:03] <adac> hi! wanna use kopte on a nother linux installation. Which folders i have to copy for to have all contacts and logs on the new installation?
[12:03] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  here u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37628/