[12:37] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/700094 i dont know how to edit it
[12:38] <ubuntu> no i dont tried it (how can i install it on the live)
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[12:38] <ubuntu> right now i am on the live dvd
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[12:39] <draik> ubuntu: Have you tried SGD?
[12:39] <ubuntu> yes
[12:39] <draik> If you have to fix GRUB, it's best
[12:39] <draik> Any luck?
[12:39] <ubuntu> no :(
[12:40] <BluesKaj> sayers, i grew up with the old north american system , but got used to the metric system (labtech guy)and then Canada switched to the metric system about 30 yrs ago so we older ppl alre kinda used to converting back and forth
[12:40] <emello> hi chris
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> honest joe
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[12:41] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | ubuntu
[12:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
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[12:42] <ubuntu> i didnt install windows after kubuntu (it was running perfekt) i made a update and the entrys disappeared
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[12:42] <mefisto__> ubuntu: mount your linux partition and see if there's a backup of menu.lst
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[12:43] <N6REJ> evening all
[12:43] <N6REJ> I want to resize a couple of my partitions and create a new ntfs partition from the freed space.  How do I do this/
[12:43] <ubuntu> no ther is only one file of menu.lst
[12:44] <coreymon77> N6REJ: not meaning to be rude or anything, but, why ntfs?
[12:45] <N6REJ> coreymon77: np, I understand.... Cause my xp machine has a tiny drive right now and I can't afford to get a new one just yet, so I'm planning on creating a ntfs partition on my server and using it as a "d" drive for xp.
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[12:46] <coreymon77> N6REJ: why not just make a fat32 drive
[12:46] <coreymon77> N6REJ: thats easier, and that way, both oses can access it
[12:46] <LM1> hey guys... I really screwed up my k3b.... I tried uninstalling it completely and reinstalling it
[12:46] <N6REJ> coreymon77: well I could but ntfs is more stable then fat32
[12:46] <LM1> and it still looks the same
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[12:47] <N6REJ> coreymon77: hmmmmm.... thats a point.
[12:47] <LM1> where are the gui configuration files kept for k3b so I can delete them?   maybe then it would go back to normal?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> LM1, screwed up in what manner
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:47] <N6REJ> coreymon77: how would I resize and create the fat32?
[12:47] <LM1> BluesKaj,  Somehow I removed all the menu's from the gui...  I don't know how
[12:47] <ScorpKing> what compression format is kde themes? .kth files. i wan't to extract a theme.
[12:47] <coreymon77> N6REJ: qtparted
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: first thing you gotta do is back up your stuff
[12:48] <N6REJ> coreymon77: I couldn't get it to do it.  I might be using it wrong... yeah, I'm getting ready to do that right now.
[12:48] <LM1> I don't know which folder k3b stores its gui config files in
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: as good as these programs are
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: they do mess up every now and then
[12:48] <ubuntu> is ther no way to get my entrys to boot kubuntu back
[12:48] <N6REJ> coreymon77: cc, I'm going to burn to dvd then I'll be ready.
[12:49] <Biovore> oO
[12:49] <hasan> how cna i list users in a system ?
[12:49] <hasan> using konsole ?
[12:49] <lnx_> i need a program ( something like clipboard ) that i can only paste text to it only to print it without saving it there is something like this ?
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[12:49] <Biovore> cat /etc/passwd
[12:49] <Biovore> ^ all the users on the system
[12:49] <hasan> is there not any other way to do it ?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> LM1 do a konq locate
[12:50] <hasan> just to list users one after another maybe seperated by :  ??
[12:50] <ScorpKing> LM1: .kde/share/apps/k3b
[12:50] <mefisto__> ubuntu: try sudo update-grub
[12:50] <LM1> ScorpKing, Thanks!  I will delete that and see if k3b goes back to normal
[12:51] <ScorpKing> np, it should.
[12:51] <N6REJ> coreymon77: this is when I could use firewire or a gigabit nic on both ends :(
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[12:52] <jcs7778> Does anyone know about a good command line music player?
[12:52] <ScorpKing> LM1: to find directories like that is easy. run locate k3b | grep yourusername
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[12:52] <coreymon77> N6REJ: lol
[12:52] <LM1> ok awesome
[12:52] <LM1> thx
[12:52] <ubuntu> No GRUB directory found (but ther is one)
[12:52] <N6REJ> coreymon77: do you know of a program that will receive email for a specific address and then auto print everything it gets?
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[12:53] <ScorpKing> does anyone know how to auto detect the compression format of a file?
[12:53] <coreymon77> N6REJ: nope
[12:54] <N6REJ> coreymon77: me neither.  I could sure use one though.
[12:54] <coreymon77> N6REJ: google is your friend
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[12:54] <trpr> ScorpKing: might try the file command. dunno
[12:54] <N6REJ> coreymon77: cc
[12:56] <ubuntu> @mefisto ther are some files missing in boot ther is only memtest 86 but no vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic
[12:56] <ScorpKing> trpr: found it, thanks. gzip
[12:56] <LM1> :C
[12:57] <LM1> I tried deleting that but it seems the gui is still screwed up
[12:57] <MinceR> where should i look for ubuntu-specific patches to kde sources?
[12:57] <trpr> ScorpKing: np. was just testing it myself on a jar file. as i thought; zipped :)
[12:57] <LM1> is there a way to force synaptic to complete remove everything even the configuration files
[12:57] <LM1> of a program
[12:57] <ScorpKing> LM1: use the purge option
[12:58] <LM1> kk thanks
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[12:58] <ScorpKing> LM1: not sure for synaptic, :) but run sudo aptitude purge k3b
[12:58] <ubuntu> thats my boot entry http://pastebin.ca/700128
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, synaptic will try to remove kubuntu-desktop if he does that
[12:59] <ScorpKing> huh?
[12:59] <ScorpKing> LM1: stop!
[12:59] <ScorpKing> lol
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[12:59] <LM1> ?
[12:59] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: why?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> any default kde apps
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[01:00] <ScorpKing> :( that suck
[01:00] <BluesKaj> dunno , but ti happened to me
[01:00] <BluesKaj> it
[01:00] <ubuntu> how can i get back the right kernel
[01:00] <LM1> im using gnome and only k3b and armarok in kde
[01:00] <ScorpKing> LM1: seems like you can't do that.
[01:00] <LM1> hehe allready did
[01:00] <LM1> :D
[01:00] <ScorpKing> :D
[01:01] <LM1> nooooo....
[01:01] <BluesKaj> ok. that's fine then , no kubuntu-desktop is installed
[01:01] <LM1> the purge didn't work
[01:01] <LM1> :C
[01:01] <LM1> why does god hate me
[01:01] <LM1> LOL
[01:01] <mefisto__> ubuntu: there's something seriously wrong with your installation. there should be more than memtest86 in /boot
[01:01] <MinceR> found it! it's hardcoded into kmilo by the ubuntu patch >:(
[01:01] <ScorpKing> LM1: looks like there is something else wrong.
[01:02] <MinceR> this is really, really ugly.
[01:02] <LM1> well it was fine... until I let my cousin try to burn a cd with it
[01:02] <ubuntu> lol
[01:02] <LM1> he disabled all the menus
[01:02] <ubuntu> how can i get back the other files in boot
[01:02] <LM1> so I figured removing it and reinstalling it would work
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[01:02] <BluesKaj> well, LM1 if you want to uninstall kubuntu-desktop , then reinstall it , that might work
[01:02] <ubuntu> i can make only a memtest xD
[01:02] <LM1> I know it has to be a gui config file somehwere
[01:03] <BluesKaj> can you open K3b to configure it at all
[01:03] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:03] <LM1> BluesKaj, its not currently installed... should I install it?
[01:03] <mefisto__> ubuntu: install again?
[01:03] <NickPresta> I'm installing Kubuntu on a friend's laptop. He has the nVidia 7300 Go. Would that be nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[01:04] <LM1> BluesKaj, yes I can still burn cd's with it, but all the menus are gone at the top
[01:04] <ubuntu> how can they disappear??? thats impossible
[01:04] <ubuntu> i made only a normal update thats all
[01:04] <MinceR> at least i can override it.
[01:05] <LM1> ill take a screenshot if you don't believe me
[01:05] <LM1> :D
[01:05] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: actually nvidia-glx is provided by either nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:05] <BluesKaj> LM1, can you open configure window behavior?
[01:05] <LM1> i can try... is there a command for it
[01:06] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, ah okay. Thanks :)
[01:06] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: and nvidia-glx-legacy is for TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce cards/chipsets
[01:06] <BluesKaj> right click on the bar at the top of k3b
[01:06] <N6REJ> coreymon77: I'll be back after I get this dvd burned.  I'm having some problems getting it done.
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[01:07] <cody> how do i install sound drivers?
[01:07] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: so in all likelihood you should just install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[01:07] <ubuntu> is ther not a other way, dont want to install it again
[01:07] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, right. Thanks. It's been a while since I've had to do this.
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[01:07] <ubuntu> :(
[01:07] <BluesKaj> LM1 , try ctrl + M with k3b open
[01:07] <Code-E> How do I install my sound drivers?
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[01:08] <LM1> woot
[01:08] <WaltzingAlong> Code-E: you ask once then wait for an answer while searching for an answer elsewhere; how do you know the drivers for your audio device are not already installed and functioning?
[01:09] <LM1> I got somethin
[01:09] <LM1> :D
[01:09] <LM1> lemme play around thanks so much
[01:09] <BluesKaj> LM1 , cttl + M
[01:09] <BluesKaj> ctrl +M
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[01:10] <LM1> w00t
[01:10] <LM1> BluesKaj, Thanks so much that fixed it
[01:10] <LM1> I am a retard sorry
[01:11] <LM1> :D
[01:11] <BluesKaj> I just remembered , that's the command one uses in all kde apps to remove or recall the menu
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[01:12] <BluesKaj> or rather hide and unhide
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[01:13] <LM1> its weird it survived a purge and uninstall and reinstall
[01:14] <Lega> Anyone use ePSXe?
[01:15] <WaltzingAlong> LM1: purge removes the installed program and its config files but not your personalized conf files for it
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[01:16] <LM1> ahh...
[01:16] <Lega> Hmm... how do I figure out the names of external usb devices (in this case, two external harddrives)?
[01:16] <LM1> thanks guys you rule!
[01:16] <LM1> peace out
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[01:16] <BluesKaj> LM1 , you didn't remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, he's agnome user who like k3b and a couple of other kde apps
[01:18] <BluesKaj> likes
[01:18] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: alright
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[01:21] <mefisto__> ubuntu: I have no idea if it will work, but you could try copying the missing files from the livecd session to your hd, then sudo update-grub
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[01:24] <sea4ever`> What command lists all open ports?
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[01:24] <slackern> netstat -an
[01:25] <sea4ever`> K
[01:25] <sea4ever`> thanks
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[01:28] <Loekken> anyone who knows about wine and troubles?:)
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[01:28] <MinceR> drinking wine causes troubles
[01:29] <Loekken> What?:P
[01:30] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You there?
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[01:32] <lnx_> in ubuntu the default deb installer is GDebi , what is the name of the installer in kubuntu ?
[01:33] <BluesKaj> adept
[01:33] <Minataku> Hm
[01:33] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:33] <mefisto__> I think GDebi is now installed with kubuntu
[01:33] <Code-E> is there an app in kubuntu to test sound ?
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[01:34] <BluesKaj> Code-E, system settinings /soundsystem/test sound
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[01:35] <lnx_> mefisto__ , no there is something else that have this name in the right click menu "kubuntu package manager" what is the name ?
[01:35] <Code-E> oh
[01:35] <BluesKaj> Code-E, test sound tab at the bottom of the sound system page
[01:35] <Code-E> how do i install my sound drivers
[01:35] <Code-E> they are not workig
[01:35] <Code-E> working
[01:35] <Code-E> =/
[01:36] <BluesKaj> Code-E, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
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[01:37] <lnx_> someone ?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> lnx_, adept
[01:38] <BluesKaj> !adept | lnx_
[01:38] <ubotu> lnx_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
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[01:38] <Code-E> Blueskaj, i dont see the sound device in the list
[01:39] <lnx_> BluesKaj ,ok so why i have no "kubuntu package manager" in right click on deb files ?ithinks is something else i think i talk about installing deb files that i have downloaded from other site and not from adept
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[01:41] <BluesKaj> !deb
[01:41] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:41] <mefisto__> lnx_: I'm pretty sure that it got replaced in kubuntu with GDebi
[01:41] <bigleon> Good evening everyone
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[01:41] <lnx_> mefisto__ , so what i can do ?
[01:42] <mefisto__> lnx_: just double-click. open it!
[01:42] <BluesKaj> lnx do you have kde installed?
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[01:42] <lnx_> BluesKaj , yes im kubuntu user
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[01:43] <lnx_> when i right click on it i get "action" and then GDebi or ark
[01:43] <lostkey> wie bekomm ich lese recht auf ntfs?
[01:43] <Code-E> how can i install my sound driver its not in the list but its a realtek sound device o.O
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[01:43] <BluesKaj> use Gdebi
[01:43] <kgx> is there any website that lists stuff like sic codes and area codes in a format that makes it easy to copy/paste into a php/javascript array?
[01:44] <MinceR> bye
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[01:44] <lostkey> how to could i get readrigths for ntfs
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[01:44] <NickPresta> kgx, that is what sed/awk/regexp is for ;)
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Code-E, that list doesn't list sound drivers, only the devices available to work with your sound drivers
[01:45] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[01:45] <Code-E> I dont see the device
[01:45] <kgx> NickPresta: yeah that's what resorting to right now :)
[01:45] <Minataku> You know what's cool? NetBSD. X3
[01:45] <kgx> NickPresta: the excel file i have is in quite an ugly format though
[01:45] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm bored.
[01:45] <lnx_> BluesKaj , 1 ) i dont want to use it , 2 ) i dont know how to uninstall deb with GDebi
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[01:46] <wers> how do I prevent beagle from starting automatically?
[01:46] <wers> is there anything that I can do with my ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[01:46] <BluesKaj> lnx_, use adept to uninstall it
[01:46] <Code-E> my sound device is not in the list, the only thing in there is open sound system and linux something and auto detect, and none work
[01:47] <BluesKaj> Code-E, read above please !
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[01:48] <BluesKaj> Code-E, your sound drivers are probably installed fine , you just need to setup ALSA and kmix
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[01:49] <Code-E> ok
[01:49] <Code-E> Line was muted
[01:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:49] <Code-E> I unmuted it, how do i exit this, just ctrl c?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> q for quit
[01:50] <Code-E> I am still hearing nothing when i press Test Sound though
[01:50] <lnx_> BluesKaj , ok i find the pakage in adpet so i can say that the problem is solved , but still you dont the name of the kubuntu deb manager ?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> start a mp3 player program from the terminal, see if it plays anything.
[01:51] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Long time no see!
[01:51] <Code-E> lol, i have no mp3s downloaded
[01:51] <Minataku> Where are my Amigas? XD
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  My company FINIALLY LEFT!
[01:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:51] <Minataku> COOL! :D
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[01:51] <Dr_willis> THey are in the garrage.  same as always. Been doing house cleaning all week.
[01:51] <Minataku> Ah
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Got me a Des Gateway machine the other day  for $500 on sale. Been playing with it. heh
[01:52] <Minataku> Well, don't stress over them, but I would like them still X3
[01:52] <Dr_willis> They aint going anywhere else. ;)
[01:52] <Minataku> Cool. :3
[01:52] <Minataku> Just try not to take TOO long, if you can XD
[01:52] <Dr_willis> been taking books to the used bookstore. and trash to the dump.. and just today redid the Doggy Dore.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Door.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Had the week off.
[01:53] <Minataku> I haven't done too much
[01:53] <Minataku> Got a busted Tecra 8000
[01:53] <Minataku> Stripped it to the core, found a blown fuse
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[01:53] <Dr_willis> I got a few dozen LB of the old abacus amiga books also if you want them.
[01:53] <Code-E> "All Audio Drivers failed to initialize"
[01:53] <Code-E> what does that mean?
[01:53] <Minataku> Ordered free replacements through Littelfuse's sample program
[01:53] <Minataku> Got some ultra-tiny SMT 8A fuses
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  gotta love that.
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[01:53] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You know I do :D
[01:54] <Code-E> What does that mean, "All Audio Drivers failed to initiliaze!"
[01:54] <Code-E> ?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  sounds like your sound card is very UNsupported.. what kind is it anyway?
[01:54] <Code-E> Realtek
[01:55] <Code-E> It's worked with Ubuntu and other linux distros
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. thats.. odd..
[01:55] <Dr_willis> good sign.. at least.
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[01:55] <Minataku> I installed NetBSD onto my P1MMX/M-166 lappy
[01:55] <Minataku> Very nice and very clean
[01:55] <Dr_willis> If it worked with ubuntu. it should work with kubuntu. since the core is the same.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> unless its a kde/arts/whatever issue.
[01:55] <Minataku> I even compiled a custom kernel for it
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  you are just a leet haxor
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[01:56] <Minataku> Worked FIRST TIME (not counting the build issues that I ran into changing the config without flushing the directory)
[01:56] <Lega> Hmm... I am a linux newb. How might I change the permissions on a folder to allow a user complete control over it?
[01:56] <Dr_willis> Lega,  what folder exactly?
[01:56] <Minataku> Installed, rebooted, worked perfectly. And every device was there, too. :D
[01:56] <Dr_willis> normally you 'chown' a directory to let a user own them.
[01:56] <Lega> ePSXe folder.
[01:57] <Lega> specifically, /usr/local/games/ePSXe/
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Lega,  for that emulator i think the user could have stuff in their own homedir as well check the epsxe docs.
[01:57] <Minataku> Users shouldn't have permissions over anything outside ~ (with very few exceptions)
[01:57] <Dr_willis> anything they add/tweak/change can go in their home dir. But its been ages since i used that Emu.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Minataku, so how do you like BSD ?
[01:57] <Minataku> Like my system has my external partitions mounted under /ext
[01:58] <Lega> Well, the problem I'm having is the configuration settings aren't saving since I don't have write permission to the folder.
[01:58] <Minataku> So naturally my user has control over them
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[01:58] <Minataku> BluesKaj: NetBSD is great
[01:58] <Minataku> But then I've always used various OSes
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[01:58] <Dr_willis> Lega,  Hmm.. a program like that shouldent be tryign to save its CONFIG settings to a system wide dir in any case.
[01:58] <Minataku> I've even got a machine running SunOS 4.1.4
[01:58] <Dr_willis> sounds like a big bug in the program to me.
[01:58] <winbond> is there an app that can show ram timings??
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[01:58] <BluesKaj> been mulling over setting up apartiton for BSD
[01:58] <Lega> All it is is a .cfg text file. :\
[01:59] <Minataku> NetBSD is nice and small and clean
[01:59] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, which flavour of BSD?
[01:59] <Minataku> Very slick
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Lega,  check its docs. proberly some dir/file you can make in th eusers home dir - it can/will save to if it exists
[01:59] <Lega> Kk, thanks. :D
[01:59] <BluesKaj> freebsd NickPresta
[01:59] <Minataku> It's also great for low-resource and exotic machines
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Lega,  or just chmode the config file :)
[01:59] <Lega> Ja.
[01:59] <Minataku> FreeBSD is large and clunky
[01:59] <Minataku> Plus the support for it around here leaves VERY MUCH to be desired
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[02:00] <Dr_willis> :
[02:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Like i need more toys.. got a Wii Last month. a new PC this month.
[02:00] <BluesKaj> oh yeah, Minataku netbsd is the one /
[02:00] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Well, that's why you're sending me some of your old toys
[02:00] <Minataku> lol
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Trying to.:)
[02:01] <Minataku> blackflag: NetBSD is very nice, and well supported here
[02:01] <Dr_willis> i really dident need the4 Wii. but they had one left.. and i figured i better grab it while i found one.
[02:01] <Minataku> Er, Black5un
[02:01] <Minataku> Damnit >.<
[02:01] <Minataku> Sorry, Black5un and blackflag
[02:01] <Minataku> >.<
[02:01] <Minataku> BluesKaj: As for OpenBSD, don't bother
[02:02] <BluesKaj> Minataku, there's a live bsd cd ...somewhere around here ...
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[02:02] <Minataku> I've got NetBSD running on a number of machines
[02:02] <Minataku> An i386 and a PMAX
[02:03] <Minataku> My DEC Personal DECstation 5000/33 :3
[02:03] <Biovore> alpha?
[02:03] <Minataku> Nope
[02:03] <Minataku> MIPS
[02:03] <Biovore> r1000?
[02:03] <Minataku> R3000
[02:03] <Biovore> ah
[02:03] <Minataku> Well, R3000 + R3010
[02:03] <BluesKaj> freesbie - 2.0 live cd
[02:03] <Minataku> BluesKaj: That's FreeBSD
[02:03] <BluesKaj> yeah
[02:04] <Minataku> NetBSD has a LiveCD as well
[02:04] <Minataku> I need to get around to installing IRIX on my Indigo2
[02:04] <Minataku> That one's an R4400SC + R4010
[02:04] <BluesKaj> what's netbsd ...is that a netinstall with a small footprint live cd?
[02:04] <Minataku> GU1-EXTREME graphics :D
[02:04] <Minataku> BluesKaj: www.netbsd.org
[02:05] <Minataku> The graphics card in the I2 is insane, it's three boards high
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[02:05] <Minataku> I have a prototype POWER Indigo2 (R8000), but I'm trading that off for a number of other machines
[02:06] <Minataku> An old Alpha, an old HPPA and an old PReP
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[02:06] <Minataku> Plus two UltraSPARC-II modules for my Ultra 2
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[02:06] <Minataku> Boost that really nice :D
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[02:07] <Minataku> Probably put FreeBSD on the Ultra 2, since NetBSD doesn't have SMP on SPARC64
[02:07] <lucky|20> i have a prototype heinz-57 made from a variety of charity shop parts...
[02:07] <Minataku> Biovore: The R1000 was never a production chip, was it?
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[02:07] <Minataku> I believe the earliest was R2000
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[02:08] <Minataku> lucky|20: Jealousy doesn't give you the right to be a jerk :P
[02:08] <Biovore> Minataku: well not in PC workstations
[02:08] <Minataku> No PCs have ever had a MIPS
[02:08] <Biovore> r1000 is old as dirt
[02:09] <lucky|20> i wasnt remotely jellous
[02:09] <Minataku> And PCs aren't workstations, per se
[02:09] <Minataku> These are real Unix workstations
[02:09] <Biovore> its kinda intressting because its starting to make a comback as an embedded processor these days
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[02:09] <Minataku> Expensive and better than PCs in every way
[02:09] <Biovore> rgr. sgi
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[02:09] <Minataku> lucky|20: Sorry, just messing with you
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[02:10] <not_remotely_jel> its ok this is a high tone heinze-57...
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[02:10] <draik> How do I get a list of my installed packages so that I can take it to my friend's computer and have them all installed
[02:10] <draik> ?
[02:11] <Biovore> draik: dpkg -l
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[02:11] <Dr_willis> draik,  i saw a script that sort of made a list, and a nother one that then read the list and isntalled them all. :)
[02:11] <draik> I recall an app that did all of that, Dr_willis
[02:12] <BluesKaj> wow Minataku, the torrent conn to bsd is fast , over 500KBs
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat installedpackages
[02:12] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[02:12] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:] ] install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[02:12] <Dr_willis> gives you a nice package list... THEN....
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat importpackageslist
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install
[02:12] <Dr_willis> However..... be carefull.. ya can end up installing nvidia drivers on an ati box. and so forth
[02:12] <draik> No, we're both nVidia
[02:13] <draik> same drivers
[02:13] <Dr_willis> It also might save time if ya copied your /var/cache/apt (?) dir to a cd/dvd for him. save a lot of downloading.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> if on a local lan. setting up one box as an apt-cache sort of machine is handy also
[02:13] <Minataku> But the downloading gives them an excuse to sit around doing nothing
[02:14] <Minataku> lol
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[02:14] <Dr_willis> well be sure to install a game or 2 first. :)
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[02:18] <draik> Anyone had "region 7" and "region 8" error messages when installing Kubuntu?
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[02:18] <Dr_willis> Thats a new one to me draik
[02:18] <draik> I've never heard of this, but my friend keeps getting this error on his laptop
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[02:19] <Dr_willis> Only region things i can think of are the regions for dvd movies.
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[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> might be a hard drive problem
[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> or possibly a memory problem
[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> did he run memtest86?
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[02:19] <draik> yup
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> is he able to boot to the live desktop
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> oh
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> did he verify the cd after he burned it
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[02:21] <JimmyDee_> the ubuntu image sometimes pukes on burn thats true
[02:21] <draik> I verified it
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[02:21] <draik> After the error messages, it finally loads
[02:21] <JimmyDee_> on the same machine youre trying to install on?
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[02:24] <draik> Sorry, am on the phone with him
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[02:25] <draik> He's trying to install it on his laptop
[02:25] <JimmyDee_> try verifying the  disk on the laptop first
[02:25] <JimmyDee_> using the check disk thing at the install screen
[02:26] <draik> It's the copy that I used to install Kubuntu 7.04 on my desktop
[02:26] <draik> Should be fine
[02:26] <draik> No scratches or anything
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[02:26] <JimmyDee_> should be, but from drive to drive theres variance
[02:27] <Minataku> If it works and the errors don't seem to impact operation at all, ignore them.
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[02:27] <JimmyDee_> word
[02:27] <Minataku> It's only something to be concerned about if it causes a negative impact on operation
[02:27] <draik> JimmyDee_: OO.o
[02:27] <Minataku> If it just pops up then loads and works fine, it's nothing of concern and can be safely ignored
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[02:28] <JimmyDee_> if the screen dont go red, youre golden
[02:28] <Lega> Switching from Windows to Linux is like removing your leg, then replacing it with a nanotech, cybernetically enhanced leg with almost no knowledge of how to do so. >.<
[02:28] <JimmyDee_> and building the leg yourself
[02:28] <Lega> Exactly.
[02:28] <JimmyDee_> so nu?
[02:29] <Minataku> Yeah, but once you learn how to use the leg, you can totally kick the ass of every Windows user out there
[02:29] <Minataku> Pun half-intended
[02:29] <coreymon77> Lega: actually no, thats what it used to be
[02:29] <Minataku> lol
[02:29] <Lega> coremon77: Easier now?
[02:29] <Lega> Because I'm still having a hell of a time with it. :p
[02:29] <JimmyDee_> 4 lines of commands to a windowed operating system
[02:29] <coreymon77> Lega: i found that installing feisty was the easiest and fastest install of any os ive ver used
[02:29] <draik> I love nanotech extremities
[02:29] <JimmyDee_> sudo su root
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[02:30] <JimmyDee_> apt-get install gnome gdm xorg
[02:30] <coreymon77> Lega: including windoze
[02:30] <JimmyDee_> so 2
[02:30] <Lega> Installing Feisty was easy, making it do what I want it to is the hard part.
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[02:30] <draik> sudo apt-get auto-repair body
[02:30] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get me a beer
[02:30] <Lega> Is there an apt-get for installing ATI drivers?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !ati
[02:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <JimmyDee_> are you root?
[02:30] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: LOL
[02:30] <draik> I AM root
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[02:31] <BluesKaj> Lega, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get me a root-beer
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[02:32] <xp_killer> waaaazzzaaaa :)
[02:32] <JimmyDee_> Lega: google envy download
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[02:32] <JimmyDee_> its groovy
[02:32] <BluesKaj> JimmyDee_, does envy work on feisty ?
[02:33] <JimmyDee_> yuppers just did it installing compiz
[02:33] <Lega> Oh man, JimmyDee_, that is groovy. :D
[02:33] <BluesKaj> yeah, but ati drivers are a different thing
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[02:34] <JimmyDee_> no I have an ati xpress 200 in this box, and my windows be wobbly
[02:34] <JimmyDee_> meaning envy was dead on
[02:34] <Dr_willis> i got a x200m in my laptop ati.
[02:34] <Lega> That is exactly what I have- the ATI Xpress 200.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> the fglrx drivers work from the repos.. but had a few issues.
[02:34] <Lega> Then again, I'm running a laptop.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> like black screen on logging out.. :)
[02:35] <BluesKaj> wow, so do I , x200G
[02:35] <Dr_willis> so i boot to the console now, not KDM, and use startx
[02:35] <JimmyDee_> use gdm
[02:35] <Lega> Holy crap... I need 17 more packages to install Envy. O.o
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[02:36] <Lega> And I don't like the sound of "fakeroot."
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> its a tool
[02:36] <Lega> It sounds devious. Sinister...
[02:36] <Lega> ... Like a shadow in the night.
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> it sure does sound nasty but it works well
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[02:36] <JimmyDee_> apt-get -f install
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> errr sudo that
[02:36] <Lega> What does that do?
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[02:37] <JimmyDee_> installs all your dependencies for envy after you try to install it
[02:37] <Dr_willis> fakeroot makes it safer. :)
[02:37] <Dr_willis> !info fakeroot
[02:37] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.10ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 388 kB
[02:37] <Lega> Oh, heck.
[02:38] <JimmyDee_> its not heinous, honest
[02:38] <Lega> GDebi is downloading the extra packages for me.
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[02:38] <Dr_willis> it fakes out programs/compiling into thinking they are being ran as root..  sort of a sand-boxing security thing - i recall
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[02:38] <Lega> Way to go GDebi. :D
[02:38] <JimmyDee_> isnt that special?
[02:38] <Lega> Oh, yeah, the name just sounds odd, is all. ^^ Fakeroot.
[02:38] <Lega> Sounds like a very useful tool.
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[02:39] <JimmyDee_> does everyone have their root account disabled?
[02:39] <Lega> ... No?
[02:39] <JimmyDee_> might wanna do that
[02:39] <Lega> Why would one do that? <<;;
[02:39] <JimmyDee_> use sudo for everything
[02:39] <Lega> I do use sudo for everything.
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[02:39] <Dr_willis> thats the ubuntu security mentality . :)
[02:39] <kkathman> Its alot safer to do that actually
[02:40] <JimmyDee_> so some happy camper cant come along and john the root account
[02:40] <Dr_willis> when in doubt use useable securicty.. not the In your face/useless stuff that vista is trying to pull.
[02:40] <Lega> Well, how do I disable my root account, as it I am not sure if it is disabled or not?
[02:40] <kkathman> well not only that, when you type sudo   you are more focused on what you are doing...which cuts down errors
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Lega,  by default - direct logging in as root is disabled in kubuntu/ubuntu
[02:40] <Dr_willis> its not 'disabled' its 'not allowed to get logged into' :)
[02:40] <JimmyDee_> but not the console
[02:41] <Lega> Oh, well I can't log into it- I tried once.
[02:41] <kkathman> you can, but you have to make a few changes to do that
[02:41] <JimmyDee_> umm did you change the password to something you control?
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[02:42] <Lega> I'm sorry- what now?
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> goto console and type sudo su root
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> then passwd
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> and enter a password of say 25 characters or so, a sentence if you will
[02:43] <JimmyDee_> THEN goto users and groups and disable the root account logon
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[02:43] <Lega> My root pass is the same as my main user pass.
[02:43] <Lega> I should totally change that. >.<
[02:43] <JimmyDee_> bad idea
[02:43] <Lega> Yeah, I just realized that.
[02:44] <Lega> How do I change it?
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> a password like this_is_1_of_my_passwords works nicely
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> goto console
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> type sudo su root
[02:44] <Lega> I do.
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> enter your password
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> type passwd
[02:44] <Lega> OH.
[02:44] <Lega> Okay.
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[02:44] <JimmyDee_> follow the prompt then
[02:44] <Lega> Sorry, missed that part. ^^
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[02:45] <JimmyDee_> and yes, staying root is a bad thing too, use sudo
[02:46] <pillowpants> can mkv video files be burned to a dvd in linux?
[02:46] <Lega> Yeah.
[02:46] <pillowpants> like something i could play in my dvd player?
[02:46] <Lega> Wait, now it is not even ASKING me for a pass on sudo su.
[02:46] <JimmyDee_> it only asks once per console instance
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[02:46] <Lega> I've opened multiple, different consoles.
[02:46] <JimmyDee_> itll ask 1 time per instance
[02:47] <Lega> Per instance of console, right?
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> yes
[02:47] <Lega> So if I open a new console window, it will ask again, yes?
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> should
[02:47] <Lega> Doesn't.
[02:47] <Lega> :E
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> aack
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[02:47] <Lega> Fuck.
[02:47] <Lega> I mean... dagnabbit.
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> wait
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[02:48] <Lega> Not good...
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> mine is asking at every instance
[02:49] <Lega> Mine definitely isn't.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> and my password is not stock
[02:49] <Lega> At all.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> log off log back on
[02:49] <Lega> Hai.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> it may think youre still root
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> shrug
[02:49] <Dr_willis> you used drowssap  instead of  password    ?
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[02:50] <JimmyDee_> they can chew my instructors at school, root password is to be controlled by local staff
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[02:52] <Lega> Not good.
[02:52] <Lega> Not good at all.
[02:52] <Lega> It isn't asking me for a password on sudo su.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> why are you doing sudo su?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> try sudo -s :)
[02:52] <Lega> Not asking for a password with that, either.
[02:53] <JimmyDee_> after a logoff?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> its been haxored!
[02:53] <Lega> After a logoff.
[02:53] <Lega> D:
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[02:53] <JimmyDee_> my microsoft mind screams reboot
[02:53] <JimmyDee_> my linux mind says you shouldnt have to
[02:53] <Lega> :[
[02:53] <Lega> Worth a try?
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[02:53] <gridl0ck> don't reboot LeeJunFan
[02:54] <gridl0ck> Lega, sorry
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Format!
[02:54] <JimmyDee_> parted
[02:54] <JimmyDee_> lol
[02:54] <Lega> Noooooooooooooooooo.
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[02:54] <Dr_willis> Format! fsisk! format again! then throw it in the trash!
[02:54] <Lega> I don't want to format.
[02:54] <Lega> No format.
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[02:54] <JimmyDee_> he's yankin yer chain
[02:54] <Lega> I have so much setup... took me so long...
=== Lega sobs softly.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> 'windows lemmings sing this song... format.. format.. windows lemmings all day long.. formating away'
[02:55] <Dr_willis> 'gonna format all day, gonna reinstall all night....'
[02:55] <Lega> I wonder what is up, though? This is kind of nerv racking. :\
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[02:55] <Lega> Not having a pass for sudo or anything, that is.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> 'then get a virus the next day... and throw it all away'
[02:55] <JimmyDee_> I have to admit its new to me
[02:55] <Dr_willis> id heard of some PAM messing up that could do that.
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[02:56] <Lega> Well, I need to fix this.
[02:56] <Lega> Because this is bad.
[02:56] <Lega> Ideas?
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> reboot
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> itll fix it
[02:56] <Lega> I'll try it.
[02:56] <Lega> BRB.
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> should I change my nick and hide?
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[02:58] <aguitel> how administrate energy in my lapto?
[02:58] <aguitel> how administrate energy in my laptop ?
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[02:59] <Lega> Curiouser and curiouser...
[03:00] <Lega> Well, it now asks for a password.
[03:00] <JimmyDee_> its fixed I hope
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[03:00] <Lega> But it just so happens to be the FIRST password I had for it- the same password as my main user account,
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[03:01] <coreymon77> Lega: unless you have specifically changed it, your root password is the same as your user password
[03:01] <Lega> well, I did specifically change it.
[03:01] <Lega> With passwd.
[03:01] <JimmyDee_> and it didnt take?
[03:01] <Lega> Also, Soundserver crashes everytime I boot up Kubuntu- any idea why?
[03:01] <Lega> No, it didn't take.
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[03:02] <JimmyDee_> arts or alsa?
[03:02] <Lega> artsd
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[03:02] <Lega> signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[03:02] <coreymon77> Lega: and whats the problem? forgot it?
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[03:02] <Lega> What coremon77?
[03:02] <JimmyDee_> it was letting him sudo without a password
[03:02] <Lega> Right.
[03:02] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[03:03] <coreymon77> JimmyDee_: oh
[03:03] <Lega> After I had changed the password with passwd.
[03:03] <coreymon77> Lega: thats why i dont change it
[03:03] <coreymon77> Lega: im the only one who uses my computer anyways
[03:03] <Lega> Well, I'd like it to be different then my main user account.
[03:03] <Lega> For securitorial purposes.
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[03:03] <Lega> :O
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[03:03] <JimmyDee_> so when your box gets haxxored they get your admin password AND your root pw...good corey
[03:04] <coreymon77> JimmyDee_: ya, good luck with that
[03:04] <Dr_willis> thats why you rename root to be toor !
[03:04] <Dr_willis> no one will ever guess that
[03:04] <JimmyDee_> thats effective too
[03:04] <JimmyDee_> lol
[03:04] <coreymon77> besides
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Then you make the alias 'ls=logout'
[03:04] <coreymon77> most people dont change it \
[03:04] <Dr_willis> that way if they get in. . they get kicked out!
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[03:05] <JimmyDee_> just us paranoids
[03:05] <Lega> Oh well, I'll just change my main user password.
[03:05] <infinity__> Hello
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[03:05] <Lega> My root pass/main user pass is 25 characters long right now, anyway- I think I'm safe.
[03:05] <infinity__> Can anyone rescue me from a grub error 17 ?
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[03:05] <infinity__> !grub
[03:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <Dr_willis> i forget what error 17 even meand
[03:06] <JimmyDee_> its broke
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[03:06] <JimmyDee_> at least it doesnt say call your system administrator
[03:07] <Lega> No, it more implies, "Here are yer tools, boy, now get ta fixin'."
[03:07] <NickPresta> Argh. Why won't Feisty install? *punches computer*
[03:07] <JimmyDee_> in the navy we had a code. code 771 in particular that meant....broken
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[03:08] <Lega> Captain Jack is awesome.
[03:08] <JimmyDee_> other than the disk isnt in the machine, I cant come up with an answer to that nick
[03:08] <Lega> Envy. Is awesome. *rock out*
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Lega,  untill it breaks...
[03:09] <JimmyDee_> now fglrxinfo
[03:09] <kgx> in kate, when doing find and replace, does anyone how we can use escape characters in the "replace with" field? \t or \\t doesn't work
[03:09] <JimmyDee_> and pray it dont say mesa
[03:09] <Lega> What if it does... oh what if it does?
[03:10] <NickPresta> If I pastebin'd some system specs, would someone be able to suggest why Kubuntu would not start (either broken X or it's hanging somewhere)?
[03:10] <Lega> Well, Envy isn't done yet. Almost, though.
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[03:10] <JimmyDee_> then you goto www.amd.com and download the driver and manual install
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[03:10] <JimmyDee_> which isnt a great bother
[03:10] <Lega> Not a terrible loss- I was going to do that first anyway.
[03:10] <Manyfold> my taskbar is gone what can i do
[03:10] <Manyfold> ?
[03:10] <Lega> Restarting now~
[03:10] <contrast83> Manyfold: Run command -> dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:10] <NickPresta> Manyfold, try: `dcop kicker kicker restart`
[03:11] <NickPresta> contrast83, heh. 1 second :P
[03:11] <contrast83> Manyfold: (Alt+F2 for run command)
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[03:12] <contrast83> Whenever I'm playing any 3D games (and only then), the mouse randomly jumps to the top-left area of the screen. Anyone know what could cause this to happen?
[03:13] <infinity__> Is there a possiblity grub just doesn't like my computer ?\
[03:13] <kgx> !kreplace
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kreplace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
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[03:13] <JimmyDee_> how we doin lega?
[03:13] <infinity__> And... I did at one stage have the Vista bootloader on there (I'm a technician I had to) *vomits all over the place and shites myself uncontrollably*
[03:13] <Lega> Doin good, what was that FLGLX command again?
[03:14] <Lega> Oh yay- artsd just crashed again.
[03:14] <Lega> !ati
[03:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:14] <JimmyDee_> fglrxinfo
[03:14] <infinity__> Lega: glad arts is gone in kde4
[03:14] <JimmyDee_> whatever will we do
[03:14] <Lega> How can I stop it from crashing?
[03:15] <JimmyDee_> f o r m a ....
[03:15] <Lega> It is a slight annoyance to have it pop up on login crashing.
[03:15] <JimmyDee_> lol
[03:15] <Lega> tah. :D
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[03:17] <JimmyDee_> what flavor you running lega?
[03:17] <Lega> ATI Drivers are a go~
[03:17] <JimmyDee_> sweetness
[03:17] <Lega> Direct rendering is a go~ :D
[03:17] <Lega> What what now?
[03:17] <JimmyDee_> what flavor ubuntu you running? I'm looking for the arts thing
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Lega,  now next week... when your X system refuses to start up.. rerun your envy script.
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[03:18] <Lega> Oh, Kubuntu.
[03:18] <kwtm> Is there a command-line program to view a graphics file (such as a *.jpg) on an X-terminal?  I thought there was a program called "xv", and I type "xv MyPhoto.jpg" and a window would pop up showing the JPEG file.  Any similar program available?
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[03:18] <JimmyDee_> dapper drake? feisty fawn? horny hampster?
[03:18] <Lega> Oh, Feisty.
[03:18] <JimmyDee_> uno momento
[03:18] <Lega> Dr_willis: I will be sure to~ :D
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm . is the linux 'disrtowatch' web site down?
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> Dr_willis, i believe so there was quite a bit of chatter about it the past 2 days on alt.os.linux.ubuntu
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[03:19] <Dr_willis> Mr_Sonoma,  ok. Bummer. :)
[03:19] <Dr_willis> one of my fave sites.
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[03:20] <Mr_Sonoma> i havent personally checked it though, just noted the chatter
[03:21] <JimmyDee_> theres about 9000 things wrong with arts
[03:21] <Lega> Awesome.
[03:21] <Lega> Do I even need it?
[03:21] <Lega> Can I just uninstall it?
[03:21] <JimmyDee_> does it make sound?
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> after the crash I mean?
[03:22] <Lega> Well, I'm listening to music through Amarok right now.
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> I'll take that as a yes
[03:22] <Lega> ^_^
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> as far as removing it I dont know
[03:23] <Lega> I'll keep it just to be safe.
[03:23] <JimmyDee_> if itll take a bunch of stuff with it
[03:23] <Lega> I just wish I could stop it from crashing on log on.
[03:23] <infinity__> Mr_Sonoma: Is that you ? Its me, CharlieKane
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[03:24] <JimmyDee_> try KDE>Control Center>Sound>Sound System and uncheck start arts on KDE Startup
[03:25] <Lega> Kay. Thanks.
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[03:25] <hydrogen> only 9000?
[03:25] <hydrogen> your an optimist
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> todfay
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> today
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> and its a sunday
[03:26] <Lega> Wait, do you mean K-Menu, JimmyDee_?
[03:26] <JimmyDee_> yup
[03:26] <Lega> Okay, confused for a second.
[03:27] <Lega> Huh, there is no checkbox for that.
[03:27] <xp_killer> mmm
[03:27] <JimmyDee_> crud I gotta look uno momento brb
[03:27] <Mr_Sonoma> yes its me infinity__
[03:28] <infinity__> hey Mr_Sonoma :D
[03:28] <Mr_Sonoma> how ya doin?
[03:28] <infinity__> not bad
[03:29] <infinity__> I'm actually here at work and one of the guys tried to install kubuntu on his system last night and got a grub error 17
[03:29] <infinity__> I've never seen that before but I'm trying to help out
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[03:30] <infinity__> Can we fix that from the live CD ?
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[03:30] <mefisto__> infinity__: what is replacing arts in kde4?
[03:31] <infinity__> mefisto__: ah they're using Phonon to support different backends (future proofing)
[03:31] <infinity__> !phonon
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phonon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <infinity__> aw
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[03:34] <infinity__> mefisto__: http://phonon.kde.org/
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[03:36] <network_ninja> guys i have a question
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[03:37] <network_ninja> cant you get mozilla firefox on kubuntu
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> Yes
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Of coyurse you can
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> You comfortable with the terminal?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> its right there in the packages. :)
[03:37] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[03:37] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[03:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:37] <network_ninja> then why do they give you that other one
[03:37] <Dr_willis> what other one?
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> Firefox isn't a KDE app
[03:38] <mefisto__> infinity__: is the error 17 machine desktop? how many disks, what type? ide? scsi?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> install one.. i could of had it installed in the time this discussion has been going on.
[03:38] <network_ninja> konquerer
[03:38] <FIRESIDE91> Konqueror is a KDE application......hence it fits in better
[03:38] <network_ninja> o ok thanks
[03:38] <Dr_willis> konqueror is a core part of kde. :)
[03:38] <FIRESIDE91> I only wish Firefox worked with my global menubar... :(
[03:39] <infinity__> im getting the grub load erro 17 on a fresh install of Kubuntu, I've got 2 main HDD's both IDE, 1 has WinXP pro SP2 and the other HDD I'm try'in to get Kubuntu installed
=== Dr_willis dosent know what a Global Menubar is.
[03:39] <FIRESIDE91> The menu is detached from the application and moved to the top of the screen, just like OS X
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Ick. :)
[03:40] <Dr_willis> of course i fullscreen everything.. so my menus are allways up there anyway
[03:40] <infinity__> I booted the WinPE super power and Recreated the MBR and Bootsector and tried installing Kubuntu and I got the same error
[03:40] <FIRESIDE91> lol, I'm big into saving screen real-estate, so if I can keep 24px off the top of every window, damnit I will
[03:40] <Dr_willis> I got dual monitors.. :) heck with it.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> i got one whole monitor just for irc!
[03:41] <xp_killer> ?
[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[03:41] <Dr_willis> adn fonts set to be like 1nch tall!
[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> xp, there's your issue
[03:41] <infinity__> haha
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[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> You fuxed up your MBR
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[03:41] <infinity__> I have to have XP to play wow and CS:S
[03:42] <FIRESIDE91> Did you install XP AFTER Kubuntu?
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[03:42] <xp_killer> i got cs just never look to install it with wine
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[03:42] <xp_killer> but what is wow?
[03:42] <xp_killer> world of war?
[03:42] <FIRESIDE91> World of Warcraft :P
[03:42] <infinity__> no no XP is my main OS and I my work mates use Kubuntu, so i tried to install it at home
[03:42] <network_ninja> i have css on kubuntu
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[03:43] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: never play them type of game
[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> Did you install XP AFTER Kubuntu?
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[03:43] <xp_killer> i mostly play games like SIMS
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[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> sims2 is awsome :P
[03:43] <infinity__> No XP was 1st
[03:43] <notv> is there a virtualbox channel?
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[03:43] <JimmyDee> not that button
[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> OK, you either deleted your /boot partition or you fried your MBR and you'll have to reinstall grub
[03:43] <xp_killer> notv: type /list to see
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> heh, /list ..... gotta love flodding the screen :P
[03:44] <infinity__> wait i know why its not working, I had vista on my PC and Kubuntu knows it...thats why
[03:44] <xp_killer> lol
[03:44] <notv> i have an amd64 but i used the alternet i386 disk to isntall feisty. which version of virtualbox should i use?
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> Might be, vista sucks :p
[03:44] <Dr_willis> I perfer vmwareserver :)
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> The X86 one NoTV
[03:44] <infinity__> even know I've removed vista kubuntu knows I've had it on the PC \
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> VMWare Server sucks
[03:45] <xp_killer> vista was lame from the day they start talking about it
[03:45] <Dr_willis> FIRESIDE91,  sure..w hatever...
[03:45] <xp_killer> it got nothing but graph
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> VMWare Workstation is better :P
[03:45] <infinity__> dude i sell PC's i know 1st hand how bad vista is
[03:45] <notv> whats the best?
[03:45] <JimmyDee> whoa, do NOT try to uninstall arts
[03:45] <Dr_willis> I couldent get most of my livecd's to work with virtualbox for some reason.
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> For free?  virtualbox
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> If you want to pay get VMWare Workstation
[03:46] <JimmyDee> if you want free get vmware server
[03:46] <infinity__> WAIT no dont talk about vista in here, its so bad the Crappiness will come over this channel
[03:46] <Dr_willis> !vmware-server
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Dr_willis> !vmwareserver
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwareserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <notv> 15G to install that sucker
[03:46] <Dr_willis> phht.
[03:46] <FIRESIDE91> Vista would have been decent if they stuck with the longhorn code...
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[03:46] <Dr_willis> Vista would have been decent - if they actually had some new features that people needed.
[03:46] <JimmyDee> drivespace is cheeep
[03:46] <Dr_willis> :)
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[03:47] <FIRESIDE91> Vista needs 15GB to INSTALL, after install it's like...8GB :P  Still to bloated, but hey, it's windows :P
[03:47] <JimmyDee> but the display goes roundie round and stuff
[03:47] <JimmyDee> oh wait compiz does that
[03:47] <Ghat> Vista isn't ready yet
[03:47] <mefisto__> infinity__: one workaround is to install grub on the 2nd disk with kubuntu on it, and F8 on bootup to choose which disk to boot from (if your bios supports that. many do)
[03:47] <JimmyDee> microsoft "isnt ready yet"
[03:47] <FIRESIDE91> Vista will never be ready
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[03:48] <FIRESIDE91> Sadly, I can see OS X taking M$'s market share, not us
[03:48] <JimmyDee> bah crapple
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[03:48] <Dr_willis> Apple - Proving that Marketing Trumps all!
[03:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:48] <FIRESIDE91> Honestly though, have any of you seen what Vista was SUPPOSED to be?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> well.. for a short time.
[03:48] <nzk> I accidently took out the multiverse line from my sources.list, at least I think I did, what's the URL for it?
[03:48] <infinity__> I tried doing that and Booting from the HDD with Kubuntu on it but i still got the error 17
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[03:49] <FIRESIDE91> Looks like K/Ubuntu needs to start making "FIX IT DAMNIT" CD's?
[03:49] <mefisto__> infinity__: but is grub installed on that disk? or on the default 1st disk with windows on it?
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[03:49] <JimmyDee> the bootloader for vista is evil
[03:49] <infinity__> i think the thing that shits me off about vista is the cheaper notebook for school kids, over here you get a notebook for under $1000 and It cannot run vista at all
[03:49] <FIRESIDE91> New on Digg: Barry Bonds Homerun #756 Ball Sold at $752,467
[03:50] <FIRESIDE91> Agreed infinity_
[03:50] <infinity__> I just feel sad for poor school kids that cannot get the $2000 notebook
[03:51] <notv> yea they sell those notebooks with 1G ram and its not enough for vista
[03:51] <infinity__> wow i hate vista, thats just leave it at that
[03:51] <JimmyDee> woohoo dell ubuntu notebooks
[03:51] <Dr_willis> New on Digg. OJ Steals  Barry Bonds Homerun #756 Ball , claims its his....
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Minataku, I ran the netbsd live cd but it couldn't auto config dhcp , and I tried to config the gateway/router IP addy etc but it still couldn't see the network ... oh well another frisbee for the pile :)
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[03:51] <FIRESIDE91> Longhorn was looking good, Vista blew it all :P
[03:51] <infinity__> no over here the under $1000 notebook have 512MB
[03:51] <notv> yea i wish i bought a dell but ive got a toshiba
[03:51] <mefisto__> infinity__: but then again, those poor kids don't have to deal with vista!
[03:51] <notv> infinity_over where
[03:52] <xp_killer> infinity__: what version of vista you have?virus home eddition? :D
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[03:52] <notv> how well does vista run inside of feisty via virtualbox?
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> Shitty
[03:53] <notv> how shitty
[03:53] <NickPresta> !language | notv
[03:53] <ubotu> notv: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:53] <xp_killer> lol
[03:53] <infinity__> mefisto__: yeah I'm a bit of a noob with this stuff, I have winxp on my main HDD and I'm trying to get Kubuntu installed on my 2 HDD...it installs ok and when i restart it just dosen't work
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> Scale of 1-10?
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> 1
[03:53] <notv> what about xp
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> XP will run great if you have the RAM
[03:53] <notv> nickpresta mybad
[03:53] <notv> ive got 2G
[03:54] <infinity__> oh no no, I don't run vista at home, I only Sell notebooks with vista and Downgrade them to XP
[03:54] <Dr_willis> 10000000gb ! and xp still uses swap!
[03:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <FIRESIDE91> It'll run just fine, just don't expect to run anything graphically intensive :P
[03:54] <xp_killer> infinity__: you got to look for a tuto to install linux with vista on it
[03:54] <FIRESIDE91> Virtualization technology in the grand scheme of things is still in it's infancy...sadly
[03:54] <notv> fireside91 i just need windows for some school stuff
[03:54] <notv> but you think xp will run a lot better than vista?
[03:55] <JimmyDee> solution: format out the virus/vista partition and make a big linux box
[03:55] <FIRESIDE91> Yes, MUCH better
[03:55] <infinity__> I know XP works betten them vista
[03:55] <Ghat> Ill vouch for that
[03:55] <FIRESIDE91> Heh, I just installed Linux on my 320GB drive and move XP(Gamimg) to my 40GB
[03:55] <JimmyDee> bah xp gaming cedega
[03:56] <Ghat> cedega costs money though...:(
[03:56] <infinity__> If i had 8GB ram and 17xIntel C2D Q6600 maybe vista might run ok
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> Cedega still can't run Source engine games well
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> And damnit, I wanna play HL2!
[03:56] <notv> what about 2G ram infinity__
[03:56] <JimmyDee> point
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> I wish Valve would port Steam and Source to Linux...
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> That'd be my dream come true...
[03:57] <Distro^Junkie> this christmas I'll be getting 2 500 gig externals for music backup
[03:57] <BluesKaj> interesting , the off topic police are sleeping on the job again :)
[03:58] <FIRESIDE91> ???
[03:58] <xp_killer> Distro^Junkie: 2500gig?how much that cost so?
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[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> little over 300
[03:58] <xp_killer> sata?
[03:58] <infinity__> is that USD?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> 2 500 gig
[03:58] <FIRESIDE91> Firewire or USB?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> not 2500
[03:58] <NickPresta> Any idea why my LiveCD of Feisty would hang on the "Loading the Desktop" part of the startup? I checked xserssion-errors and there is mention of dcopserver and kdeinit failing. Any ideas?
[03:58] <xp_killer> sata?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> usb
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> SATA = Serial ATA
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[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> Go for Firewire if you have the ports
[03:59] <network_ninja> my ubuntu live cd froze on the installation and ruined my xp partition
[03:59] <network_ninja> D:<
[03:59] <NickPresta> network_ninja, how does that work?
[03:59] <chuy_max> hey !, what happened with window menu in Konqueror? is there a way to enable it?
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> It didn't ruin you XP partition
[03:59] <NickPresta> network_ninja, AFAIK, the liveCD doesn't touch your partition at all
[03:59] <network_ninja> i said installation
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> Unless you told it to
[03:59] <network_ninja> yea it shrunk the partition
[03:59] <network_ninja> i did tell it to
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> That's your issue!
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> ewww
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> bad idea
[04:00] <xp_killer> network_ninja: never heard about something ruin and xp partition.were u installing kubuntu on the same hdd as the xp?
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[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> always partition your own drives
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> NEVER  srhink a NTFS partition
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[04:00] <network_ninja> well i didnt know that
[04:00] <xp_killer> lol
[04:00] <network_ninja> doesnt matter anyways
[04:00] <infinity__> what I'll do is wait till i get home and I'll boot the live CD and try again, thnx peeps...latz all
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> now ya do
[04:00] <network_ninja> yea
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> NTFS partitions don't like pshyciatric care :P
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[04:01] <Distro^Junkie> use partition magic
[04:01] <Barbarian> use "NTFSRESIZE" from RIP CD
[04:01] <FIRESIDE91> NTFSRESIZE has the same problems
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[04:01] <Barbarian> ntfsresize -s XXXMB/GB /dev/XXX
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[04:02] <mefisto__> infinity__: here's a foolproof way: disconnect the windows disk, install kubuntu. It should boot up. Reconnect the windows disk, then use F8 to choose which disk to boot
[04:02] <Distro^Junkie> acronis makes a good disc suite also
[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> We don't know enough about NTFS to go resizing it yet, hell, we recently only got (EXPERIMENTAL) Write support
[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> Acronis > Partition Magic
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[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> Partition Magic sucks after Symantec (READ: MAKERS OF NORTON) bought it
[04:02] <Distro^Junkie> I used acronis myself
[04:02] <NickPresta> FIRESIDE91, actually, ntfs-3g is rather stable. I would hardly call it EXPERIMENTAL
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[04:02] <Barbarian> FIRESIDE --- true
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[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> NickPresta, I was under the impression that it still had issues, I guess it has developed a lot since last time I checked
[04:03] <xp_killer> FIRE
[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> Where?
[04:03] <Distro^Junkie> where do i go for enabling restricted formats ?
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[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, you are using Kubuntu, correct?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> can some one help network_ninja instead of telling him what you  use
[04:04] <Distro^Junkie> yes
[04:04] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: symantec is better than partition magic?
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[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> sudo aptitude install xine-ffmpeg
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[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer, Symantec BOUGHT Partition magic
[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> And symantec is HORRIBLE
[04:04] <xp_killer> o_O
[04:04] <NickPresta> !offtopic | FIRESIDE91
[04:04] <ubotu> FIRESIDE91: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:04] <xp_killer> lol
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[04:05] <FIRESIDE91> Oh noes, the offtopic police :P
[04:05] <FIRESIDE91> Did that work Distro?
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[04:05] <Distro^Junkie> one sec
[04:05] <BluesKaj> network_ninja, do you have a working OS on that pc ?
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[04:06] <FIRESIDE91> Wait, that's wrong, it's libxine1-ffmpeg not xine-ffmpeg
[04:06] <Distro^Junkie> yea cause it couldn't find the other one
[04:06] <Distro^Junkie> lol
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[04:08] <FIRESIDE91> Now, what program are you using to play what format?
[04:08] <Distro^Junkie> yea that worked
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[04:08] <Distro^Junkie> trying to play formats off of wwe.com
[04:08] <FIRESIDE91> xp, do you have a bluetooth card/dongle or have it built into your machine
[04:09] <xp_killer> usb
[04:09] <xp_killer> key
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[04:09] <Distro^Junkie> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <--- will this help ?
[04:09] <FIRESIDE91> No
[04:10] <FIRESIDE91> Give me a few XP, but first of all, does Kubuntu detect the key?  (System Settings -> Bluetooth)
[04:10] <xp_killer> ???
[04:10] <Manyfold> can amarok stream to a icecast-server?
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[04:10] <FIRESIDE91> Not that I know of
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> I'm pretty sure VLC can...
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> Anyone else know?
[04:11] <Distro^Junkie> don't believe it can
[04:11] <Manyfold> can any kde supplied audio player?
[04:11] <Tm_T> Manyfold: may to rephrase?
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[04:12] <Manyfold> can any kde audio player stream to icecast?
[04:12] <Tm_T> xp_killer: please stop spamming /me
[04:12] <Tm_T> Manyfold: sorry, no idea
[04:12] <FIRESIDE91> bluesoleil is a WINDOWS bluetooth stack
[04:12] <Distro^Junkie> mpd I believe can
[04:13] <xp_killer> o_O
[04:13] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, for WWE.com you only need flash I believe
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[04:13] <Distro^Junkie> naww FIRESIDE91 it plays windows media format
[04:13] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer, K/Ubuntu has a great bluetooth stack already
[04:13] <Manyfold> okay i'll install vlc
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[04:14] <FIRESIDE91> Does the FFMPEG thing work?
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[04:14] <Distro^Junkie> yea it installed
[04:14] <Distro^Junkie> one sec
[04:14] <FIRESIDE91> Do the videos play is the question
[04:14] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: it doesnt detect my wiimote.i had to install all types of thing and run in a konsole to see the wiimote adress
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[04:15] <FIRESIDE91> The wiimote isn't a regular HID, it takes some special configuration
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[04:16] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer: http://www.wiili.org/index.php/WMD this might help
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[04:17] <xp_killer> got it
[04:17] <Distro^Junkie> man can't wait to get my macbookpro
[04:17] <ideprobelms> Is anyone else seeing IDE cdrom errors after the last set of updates?
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[04:17] <Distro^Junkie> not me
[04:17] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, you jerk
[04:18] <Distro^Junkie> lol what ?
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[04:18] <FIRESIDE91> I'm still saving to get a new iMac :P
[04:18] <xp_killer> lol
[04:19] <Distro^Junkie> that's like getting a celeron instead of a athlon 64
[04:19] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[04:19] <Tm_T> !ohmy | FIRESIDE91
[04:19] <ubotu> FIRESIDE91: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:20] <mefisto__> what language?
[04:20] <Distro^Junkie> yea what language
[04:20] <Distro^Junkie> jerk is not considered swearing
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[04:20] <Tm_T> well I do
[04:20] <stdin> it is if Tm_T says it is
[04:20] <mefisto__> as in "usb drives are jerk-tolerant"
[04:21] <Distro^Junkie> ok Tm_T
[04:21] <FIRESIDE91> You can be mean to a USB drive?
[04:21] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[04:21] <mefisto__> you can jerk them around, they don't mind
[04:21] <ideprobelms> Is this the correct place to discuss issues with Kubuntu (fiesty Fawn)?
[04:21] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: yes
[04:22] <FIRESIDE91> mefisto__: lol
[04:22] <ideprobelms> If I may -- after the last round of automatic updates, I'm seeing errors on my CD devices when reading movie DVDs.
[04:22] <Tm_T> mefisto__: FIRESIDE91: your jerky perkies are currently offtopic
[04:22] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[04:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:23] <xp_killer> good bot
[04:23] <xp_killer> he love me
[04:23] <xp_killer> :D
[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> least someone does lol
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[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> jk
[04:23] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: what errors?
[04:23] <ideprobelms> This on three separate machines, two are running i386, anf the other X_64
[04:23] <ideprobelms> dmesg shows this:
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[04:23] <nzk> Argh, I uncommented 2 lines in sources.list and now it says "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"
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[04:23] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: I hope youre not gonna flood
[04:24] <john> I have a Presario C508us and I cannot get the wireless to enable
[04:24] <FIRESIDE91> Link to pastebin, PLEASE
[04:24] <koljaNS> hklj4
[04:24] <john> I hit enable and it just sits there.
[04:24] <ideprobelms> No, no flood!
[04:24] <john> It reverts to disable
[04:24] <stdin> nzk: you've ran "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> nzk , post your sources list in pastebin
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[04:24] <john> wired is fine, but not wireless
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[04:24] <xp_killer> oops
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[04:25] <nzk> Nevermind.
[04:25] <ideprobelms> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[04:25] <xp_killer> lol
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[04:25] <mefisto__> what's that automatic sources.list webpage?
[04:25] <mefisto__> *sources.list generator
[04:25] <BluesKaj> source-o-matic
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[04:25] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[04:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
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[04:25] <FIRESIDE91> Why not just use adept to fix the sources list?
[04:26] <ideprobelms> end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector xxxxx
[04:26] <FIRESIDE91> Speaking of which, 73 updates to install :P
[04:26] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: interesting
[04:26] <mefisto__> FIRESIDE91: another easy way
[04:26] <john> anyone have this similar issue?
[04:26] <john> !wireless
[04:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
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[04:27] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: I can read my dvds and cds just fine
[04:27] <Distro^Junkie> anyone know a good tut to make kde look like os X ?
[04:27] <ideprobelms> It's on three separate machines, so I know it's not hardware -- and it reads the Kubuntu install DVDs ok so far as I can tell.. Though it might be in libdvdread or the dvdnav libraries
[04:27] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, search for "Baghira"
[04:27] <ideprobelms> since it's only on movei DVDs
[04:28] <ideprobelms> xine chokes
[04:28] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 installed ,ideprobelms ?
[04:29] <stdin> Distro^Junkie: just install kwin-baghira
[04:29] <ideprobelms> libdvdcss on all three machines -- have read moveis on all three of these machines prior.
[04:29] <Distro^Junkie> thanx stdin
[04:30] <BluesKaj> ideprobelms, install the libdvdcss2 version
[04:30] <ideprobelms> um, just a sec..
[04:31] <Distro^Junkie> stdin: what do i need to do after its installed ?
[04:31] <FIRESIDE91> Alright, this is getting annoying, whenever I run apps as root my color scheme doesn't apply to them, how do I export my color scheme again?
[04:31] <ideprobelms> 1.2.9-2
[04:32] <stdin> Distro^Junkie: that installs a theme, so go to system settings > appearance and you can choose it
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[04:32] <Distro^Junkie> ok thanx
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[04:32] <john> How do I configure an internal wireless card?
[04:32] <FIRESIDE91> john, what card is it?
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[04:32] <flaccid> !wireless | john
[04:32] <ubotu> john: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:33] <BluesKaj> yup, ideprobelms that's the latest
[04:33] <ideprobelms> libdvdread is installed too. 0.9.7-2
[04:33] <BluesKaj> libxine-extracodecs
[04:33] <ideprobelms> Is there anyway to roll back the last batch of updates?
[04:33] <mefisto__> ideprobelms: how did you install libdvdcss2? repo? which one?
[04:34] <john> FIRESIDE91: It's a Compaq c508us laptop with an internal Broadcom Corporation Dell wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Car (rev 01)
[04:34] <ideprobelms> through the medibuntu repository, I htink.
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[04:34] <ideprobelms> all install were done through adept_manager
[04:34] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, read above he has the latest version 1.2.9-2
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[04:35] <mefisto__> dpkg -s libdvdcss2 should report 1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1
[04:35] <FIRESIDE91> john: mind sending me the output of lspci (in a private message)
[04:35] <ideprobelms> Version: 1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1
[04:35] <JimmyDee> umm how do I select a theme in kubuntu?
[04:36] <john> FIREI wish I could. I am on my desktop. It's on the laptop. No way on xfering the info
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[04:36] <john> I can type out what I have for the device if you wishy
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> Hold on a sec
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[04:36] <ideprobelms> Dunno if this matters, but this is Edgy upgraded wit adept to Feisty
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> Run lspci on it and just give me the line for your wireless card
[04:37] <john> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI card (rev 01)
[04:37] <FIRESIDE91> ok
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[04:38] <FIRESIDE91> Give me a few minutes to dig up the info
[04:38] <john> FIREThank you much appreciated
[04:38] <john> FIRESIDE91: Thank you, much appreciated
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[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> It seems you have a bcm43xx card john, I'm not sure if it will work with the same driver mine has, but it's worth a try
[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> Can you transfer files over to the other machine (burn a CD, USB drive, etc?)
[04:41] <john> Lets do it
[04:41] <john> Yes
[04:42] <john> I shold be able to send it out, somehow
[04:42] <john> *should
[04:42] <FIRESIDE91> Good, I'll have a .deb and a .o file that you need to get over there
[04:42] <john> Thank you
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[04:43] <FIRESIDE91> are you seeing my file transfers john?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> nite all...sacktime for old guys
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[04:44] <FIRESIDE91> lol, nite Blues
[04:44] <john> FIRESIDE91: Failed.
[04:44] <john> :(
[04:44] <john> Can you send them via email
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[04:45] <FIRESIDE91> Yes, what's your address
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[04:45] <stdin> john: /msg it, this channel is logged
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[04:45] <stdin> (ie: google-able)
[04:45] <XsteelWolf> How do you guys feel using kubuntu vs ubuntu?
[04:45] <FIRESIDE91> It's a personal preference
[04:46] <FIRESIDE91> I'm comfortable with both of them...and I have a certain disdain for konqueror
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> is there firefox in k?
[04:46] <mefisto__> XsteelWolf: just a guess, but probably most here prefer kubuntu
[04:46] <stdin> you can install it
[04:46] <FIRESIDE91> Not by default, but you can install it
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> how's konqueror vs firefox,havent got any experience with kon
[04:47] <FIRESIDE91> Konqueror is awful...they still haven't merged most of the changes apple made to KHTML with safari...
[04:47] <stdin> konqueror is more stable, that's for sure
[04:47] <mefisto__> konqueror doesn't have extensions...
[04:47] <XsteelWolf> different opinons here
[04:47] <XsteelWolf> hehe
[04:47] <FIRESIDE91> I prefer to use Opera on Kubuntu, it's a QT app so it integrates nicely...while being leaps and bounds over konqueror
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[04:48] <XsteelWolf> mind to show what themes are you using for kubuntu?
[04:48] <stdin> konqueror is the most standards compliant browser out there
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[04:48] <FIRESIDE91> Xsteel, gimme a sec, I'll send you one of my screenshots
[04:48] <XsteelWolf> sure
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[04:48] <mefisto__> the cool thing about opera is the ability to zoom, even youtube embedded video can go full screen easily
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[04:49] <Distro^Junkie> hmm seems to be easier to make gnome look like os x then kde
[04:49] <FIRESIDE91> Hell no, KDE has native support for the global menu, gnome is a bitch to get that set up
[04:49] <stdin> if you're just discussing kubuntu, and not requesting support. it should be in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
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[04:50] <XsteelWolf> wierd
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> can't seems to accept
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[04:50] <XsteelWolf> try sending again
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> i set it to auto accept
[04:51] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Thank you.
[04:51] <FIRESIDE91> Xsteel, it's my nat over here, I'm just gonna put it on photobucket
[04:51] <stdin> FIRESIDE91, XsteelWolf: if you're just discussing kubuntu, and not requesting support. it should be in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
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[04:54] <jared> hi all
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[04:55] <XsteelWolf> what's kde version now on kubuntu
[04:56] <jared> I have the VT82C686 Chipset, with the snd_via82xx driver, it shows its loaded and everything, but get no sound, any help??
[04:56] <FIRESIDE91> Check your volume?
[04:56] <jared> already did
[04:56] <mefisto__> ideprobelms: this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24399 take a look
[04:57] <jared> any others?
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[04:57] <mefisto__> jared: just one soundcard?
[04:58] <jared> yes, onboard
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[05:02] <ideprobelms> mefisto__: thanks, I'll look it over.
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[05:03] <jared> ok, so this one time at band camp.... :D
[05:05] <ideprobelms> mefisto__: Ah -- Thanks for the link, this may help.  Fiesty on a fresh install addresses IDE devices through scsi emulation, doesn't it?  Edgy didn't... well, the device names weren't anyway. Edgy, the cdrom was /dev/hdx, whereas non-upgrade Fiesty is /dev/sr0 ...
[05:06] <stdin> should be /dev/sd0 sr0 is a bit different
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[05:07] <ideprobelms> hmmm...  how about on a USB cdrom device?
[05:08] <ideprobelms> I guess a better question is, what is the difference between /dev/sr0 and /dev/sd0 ?
[05:08] <stdin> should still map to an scd0 device (i means scd0 the ist time too)
[05:09] <stdin> sr0 is sort of like raw access that the kernel maps scd0 to, it's not really usable by anything tho
[05:10] <ideprobelms> I have three machnes that have this symptom - AMD64 with IDE, AMD with IDE and an Intel with IDE via USB.  The machine with the USB k9copy has /dev/sr0 as the input device.
[05:11] <ideprobelms> It was my first attempt at a new Feisty install -- the others were upgrades.
[05:11] <ideprobelms> I'll try a fresh install there.
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[05:12] <ideprobelms> Still doesn't expalin the other two, but the kernel was recently upgraded so it may after all.
[05:12] <ideprobelms> Thanks for the link -- gives me something to work from.
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[05:22] <jago> can any one tell me how to get a driver for my lexmark z710
[05:22] <jago> i am having problems with the development pack
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[05:27] <stdin> jago: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
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[05:33] <jago> Thank you
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[05:35] <notv> so much trig!
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[05:41] <ether> gah! this is driving me insane
[05:41] <ether> How would I plug my linux http server into my router so that when other computers on my network connect, http requests are sent to that linux server?
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[05:41] <Lega> Oui.
[05:41] <ether> basically, instead of "the internet" I want to put "my http server only"
[05:44] <FIRESIDE91> Uhm...why ether?
[05:47] <ether> because people on my network don't need to be able to access the internet, just this one server.
[05:47] <ether> and I'm not sure if I'll have access to a connection everywhere
[05:47] <flaccid> ether: port forwarding
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[05:47] <ether> but I will have access to a router and the server
[05:48] <ether> would that be with iptables or something?
[05:48] <flaccid> what router do you have for your wan?
[05:48] <FIRESIDE91> No, that would be setting up a proxy
[05:48] <FIRESIDE91> And blocking all internet traffic with a router
[05:48] <flaccid> actually im confused to what your question is..
[05:48] <ether> basically, I have a wireless router
[05:49] <ether> and I have a linux http server
[05:49] <FIRESIDE91> Any HTTP Trafic -> Redirect to his Server, that's what he wants
[05:49] <ether> I would like people to be able to connect to the router and browse things on the server
[05:49] <ether> yeah, thanks
[05:49] <flaccid> you want service discovery actually
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[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> What he wants is a mess...
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Actually, I have an idea now
[05:51] <Fiya_Afk> hey guys, question, on a newer core 2 duo system, whats the benefit for running 64 bit over 32? Will it be something noticible? Or only for certain applications
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Computers -> router -> server -> internet
[05:51] <Fiya_Afk> And is it worth it, with app compatibility issues
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Fiya, 64bit allows more memory, if you have less than 4GB use the 32bit
[05:52] <Fiya_Afk> is that the only difference?
[05:52] <ether> FIRESIDE91: that could work.. but suppose I don't have internet at the time
[05:52] <stdin> Fiya_Afk: not that much benefit, unless you have 4+GB RAM (and want to use it all)
[05:52] <FIRESIDE91> That and 64bit math
[05:52] <Fiya_Afk> So not really worth it at this point for me
[05:52] <FIRESIDE91> ether Well then you can ifnore the internet part
[05:53] <FIRESIDE91> then setup iptables to intercept all http traffic and send it to your server
[05:53] <yet> lecek
[05:54] <ether> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[05:54] <FIRESIDE91> O.o\
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[05:54] <FIRESIDE91> HE left without me pointing out that his router would need some work to go with that setup
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[06:01] <bigleon> Question; can i set up kopete to say what song i'm playing on amarok?
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[06:01] <FIRESIDE91> Probably
[06:01] <bigleon> Well part 2 of question, if so, how.
[06:02] <stdin> I'm sure there's a script for that on kde-apps.org
[06:02] <bigleon> ty
[06:02] <stdin> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Now+Playing,+lite?content=62054
[06:02] <stdin> like that one ^
[06:02] <seth> bigleon, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33503
[06:03] <mefisto__> bigleon: there's a plugin that does it. kopete settings > configure plugins > now listening
[06:06] <Lega> !kopete
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <Lega> :[
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[06:09] <bigleon> Thank you
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[06:15] <bigleon> is there any good free Auto Cad Like programs out there i see autoQ3D form what i understand he requires donation to dl
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[06:16] <notv> maybe you could find a torrent
[06:16] <stdin> bigleon: try qcad
[06:17] <sarag> sudo make snack
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[06:18] <FIRESIDE91> sudo mount bike
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[06:19] <kkathman> sudo apt-get remove trolls
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[06:20] <stdin> hey, kkathman how'd you do that ;)
[06:20] <kkathman> yanno - special talent :)
[06:20] <kkathman> heh
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[06:22] <xsteelwolf> fire you there?
[06:22] <FIRESIDE91> yea
[06:22] <xsteelwolf> i just installed kubuntu
[06:22] <zgmf-x20a> hey any kontact experts in here?  few questions.  well. i guess not expert but uses it alot
[06:22] <xsteelwolf> But I can't get on wireless
[06:22] <FIRESIDE91> I use kontact
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> how do i search for wireless network?
[06:23] <FIRESIDE91> what wireless card steel?
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> intel 4965ag
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[06:23] <zgmf-x20a> FIRESIDE91: after entering alllllllll the info and what not, is there a way to save the contact lists and everyting,  such as an import amd export feature?
[06:23] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the network icon and select your network
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> and after i install kubuntu,my windows doesnt show up on boot, now i can't get back to windows
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> where's the network icon
[06:24] <xsteelwolf> how do i know if wlan is installed in the first place
[06:24] <FIRESIDE91> Systray steel
[06:24] <FIRESIDE91> zgmf, file menu -> export
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[06:24] <xsteelwolf> i don't get you
[06:25] <xsteelwolf> i can't find the network icon
[06:25] <FIRESIDE91> In your system tray (right side of the panel)
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> FIRESIDE91: woah... that was a super noob thing to do... i didnt know that each side icon had its own features change the top bar...
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> thanks!
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> ^_^
[06:25] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[06:25] <Z_Man> i tried the KDE 4 beta 2 on Kubuntu 7.04 and I get two boxes at the bottom of my screen stating that "This object could not be created."
[06:26] <Lega> How might I figure out what kind of LAN card my computer has?
[06:26] <Z_Man> i heard this may be due to plasma? anyone else know of this problem?
[06:26] <Lega> Wireless is working fine, but ethernet is a no go- Kubuntu doesn't even detect it. :\
[06:26] <stdin> Z_Man: every one gets that
[06:26] <xsteelwolf> how do i go into wireless interface?
[06:26] <xsteelwolf> is there a command to type in terminal?
[06:26] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the network icon
[06:26] <Z_Man> ok, well how can people fix it?
[06:26] <FIRESIDE91> Unless it's not there
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> i can't see the network icon
[06:27] <stdin> Z_Man: you can't
[06:27] <FIRESIDE91> K Menu -> Internet -> KNetworkManager
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[06:27] <xsteelwolf> when ethernet is unplug
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> i can't open it
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> when it is plug,im able to
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[06:28] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the icon and see if it lists any wireless networks...
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[06:28] <Z_Man> well that's just dandy
[06:28] <mefisto__> xsteelwolf: in the options sub-menu
[06:28] <Z_Man> i quit
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[06:29] <xsteelwolf> im there
[06:29] <xsteelwolf> but i only see wired connection
[06:29] <Z_Man> thanks for being so to-the-point, stdin
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> if i go under configuration,i see disable wireless
[06:30] <clyrrad> Can anyone here help me with wine? Everytime I try to run my game with wine i Just get some "debugger started message" like the game crashes - No idea what do do, am I missing something in the install / config of wine?  I am using version 0.9.45
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> but i dont see any networks
[06:30] <stdin> Z_Man: it's because the plasmoids for that part wern't (and still aren't) released, so nothing anyone can do
[06:30] <FIRESIDE91> fuuuuuu.....you might have that annoying intel card then
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> what can i do?
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> even my wireless icon isn't blinking
[06:31] <xsteelwolf> neither can i on it
[06:31] <stdin> clyrrad: try asking in #winehq
[06:31] <clyrrad> end process dies with No process loaded, cannot execute 'detach'........... can anyone help?
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[06:31] <FIRESIDE91> hmmm
[06:31] <FIRESIDE91> trying to juggle to many channels...hold on steel
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[06:33] <FIRESIDE91> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper Your card is still lacking native support until intel writes a decent driver, you'll need to use NDISWRAPPER
[06:33] <jza873> hi looking for some help i seem to have this problem with not being able to ping i cal ping the lo but anything besides that i cannot which is odd because i i have static addresses for all my devices and all can go online and have no trouble with any p2p and no firewall running so i cant figure out what the problem is
[06:33] <mefisto__> xsteelwolf: alt-f2, type remote:/   is that what you want to see?
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[06:34] <xsteelwolf> yea
[06:34] <xsteelwolf> but i don't see network services
[06:34] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Hey
[06:34] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Are you available?
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Yea
[06:35] <jagcorvair> I am on the laptop
[06:35] <jagcorvair> Following those instructions, I don't have the wireless available
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Did you get the wifi working?
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Did you download the right drivers for you machine from dell?
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[06:36] <xsteelwolf> fire,i;ll be back in 30-45mins
[06:36] <jagcorvair> I followed the directions
[06:36] <xsteelwolf> im off to fetch my bro
[06:36] <FIRESIDE91> But did you download the RIGHT drivers, or do you have the same notebook?
[06:36] <jagcorvair> turns out I don't have build-essential and I can't download it for some strange reason
[06:36] <jagcorvair> This is a fresh install of 7.04
[06:37] <jagcorvair> I also can't get ndiswrapper installed even though it says its installed
[06:37] <FIRESIDE91> odd
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[06:37] <jagcorvair> Yup
[06:37] <FIRESIDE91> Are you connected through a router?
[06:37] <jagcorvair> Yes
[06:38] <FIRESIDE91> Grr....I was gonna say I could just SSH into the machine
[06:38] <jagcorvair> I wish I could do the same
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[06:38] <FIRESIDE91> Do you know how to forward ports?
[06:39] <jagcorvair> Yes
[06:39] <jagcorvair> 22?
[06:39] <FIRESIDE91> Yup, do you have openssh-server installed?
[06:39] <chuy_max> hey, what happened with window menu in konqueror ?, this distro doesn't have that menu.
[06:40] <jagcorvair> I do now
[06:40] <FIRESIDE91> Feel comfortable with me on your account?
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[06:42] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Yes. This is a new system.
[06:42] <Cannoli> !printer
[06:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:42] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: I don't really care
[06:42] <flaccid> what is the policy on giving system access ?
[06:42] <flaccid> i wouldn't be giving anyone access to mine
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[06:43] <FIRESIDE91> check me out on the forums if you don't trust me: username is netkid91
[06:43] <flaccid> and what does that establish?
[06:44] <Cannoli> !remotedesktop
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <FIRESIDE91> the fact that I do nothing but help people, hell, I'm a meber of bugsquad and ubuntu-gnome too :P
[06:44] <Cannoli> !remote desktop
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <flaccid> it doesn't establish anything...
[06:44] <Cannoli> hmmm can someone point me in a direction where i can get info on remote desktopping in linux?
[06:45] <FIRESIDE91> Cannoil, gnome and KDE both have vnc built in
[06:45] <chuy_max> Cannoli, search for vnc ?
[06:45] <flaccid> Cannoli: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:45] <jagcorvair> Cannoli: K Menu > Internet > Remote Desktop
[06:45] <Cannoli> oh ic
[06:45] <Cannoli> thanx
[06:45] <Cannoli> !vnc
[06:45] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:45] <FIRESIDE91> Kubuntu's remote desktop stuff is in System Settings
[06:46] <gridl0ck> !rdesktop
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <flaccid> if you need rdp support install rdesktop package
[06:46] <jza873> can someone help i cant figure out why i cant ping out from my machine
[06:46] <flaccid> rdp client that is
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[06:47] <jza873> i keep serching but for every one else its their firewall or router
[06:47] <jza873> but thats not my case
[06:47] <jza873> im just so lost on it
[06:47] <flaccid> what happens when you ping?
[06:48] <jza873> it just never replys
[06:48] <flaccid> it sits on the next line doing nothing?
[06:49] <chuy_max> how can I add window menu to konqueror?, ubuntu removed that menu
[06:49] <jza873> exactly
[06:49] <flaccid> this is for pings to external hosts only ie. pinging internal is ok?
[06:49] <jza873> no
[06:49] <flaccid> all pings?
[06:49] <jza873> i can ping the lo but i cant ping anything beside that
[06:49] <jza873> yea
[06:49] <jza873> which is odd because all internet features work fine
[06:50] <flaccid> can you ping the ethernet interface's IP eg. 10.0.0.1 ?
[06:50] <jza873> nope
[06:50] <jza873> just sits
[06:50] <flaccid> right
[06:50] <flaccid> iptables working?
[06:50] <jza873> yea
[06:50] <flaccid> is there any firewall sorry
[06:50] <jza873> no firewall
[06:50] <jza873> just a router
[06:50] <flaccid> ok
[06:51] <mefisto__> chuy_max: right-click panel, add applet to panel..., add the window list menu
[06:51] <jza873> nwo you can see why im lost
[06:51] <jza873> i even hard coded everything
[06:53] <flaccid> you hard coded everything?
[06:53] <jza873> yea in the router
[06:53] <flaccid> this has nothing to do with the router
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[06:53] <chuy_max> thx mefisto____, I changed the konqueror.rc file :)
[06:53] <flaccid> it doesn't do a hop to the router when pinging the local lan ipo
[06:53] <jza873> my ip for my devices will alwayse be the sme and i even put in a manual gateway in the network manager
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[06:54] <flaccid> gateway is not required to ping
[06:54] <flaccid> not internally
[06:54] <flaccid> the ip address is also irrelevant.. now pastebin your ifconfig -a
[06:54] <Lega> Wow. I just switched my network to roaming mode, and it FUBAR'd everything... Had to reboot 5 times just to get the OS stable again. Wtf?
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[06:55] <jza873> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:58:87:D0:C6
[06:55] <flaccid> lol
[06:56] <flaccid> pastebin > jza873
[06:56] <jza873>           inet addr:192.168.15.4  Bcast:192.168.15.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[06:56] <jza873>           inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe87:d0c6/64 Scope:Link
[06:56] <jza873>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:56] <jza873>           RX packets:456820 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1
[06:56] <flaccid> !pastebin > jza873
[06:56] <jza873>           TX packets:389265 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:56] <jza873>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:56] <jza873>           RX bytes:303037555 (288.9 MiB)  TX bytes:204755772 (195.2 MiB)
[06:56] <jza873>           Interrupt:18
[06:56] <jza873> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:CF:C5:7E:8E
[06:56] <jza873>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:56] <jza873>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:56] <jza873>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:56] <jza873>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:56] <jza873>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[06:56] <jza873>           Interrupt:5
[06:56] <jza873> pastebin
[06:57] <jza873> ???
[06:57] <jza873> what
[06:57] <mefisto__> weee
[06:57] <flaccid> yes pastebin
[06:57] <jza873> whats that
[06:57] <flaccid> !pastebin | jza873
[06:57] <ubotu> jza873: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:57] <jza873> ok thansk
[06:57] <jza873> got it
[06:58] <jza873> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37660/
[06:58] <flaccid> also join ##networking they might be able to help yout there. don't know why myself why this would occur
[06:58] <jza873> thanks
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[07:01] <flaccid> maybe it has something to do with the subnet mask or broadcast but i really have no idea sorry jza873
[07:02] <jza873> its kewl thanks any ways imma try the ##networking one
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[07:10] <bigleon> i'm trying to watch a DVD, and my player is going on about copywright laws saying i can/cannot watch it
[07:11] <bigleon> is there a dvd player that won't hassle me?
[07:11] <Ryiel> !dvd | bigleon
[07:11] <ubotu> bigleon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:14] <bigleon> The command "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" says it's not found
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[07:15] <hangthedj> bigleon, try 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh'
[07:16] <bigleon> still seems to be encrypted
[07:16] <bigleon> and that command looked to had run properly
[07:17] <bigleon> seems visual is still messed up but i can hear audio
[07:17] <hangthedj> just try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
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[07:18] <bigleon> says it's already up to date
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[07:19] <stdin> restart your media player after libdvdcss is installed
[07:19] <bigleon> i did'
[07:19] <bigleon> completely exited out
[07:19] <bigleon> oh well it's just a comedy special XD i'm fine with just listening
[07:19] <hangthedj> what happens if you try to watch the dvd on kaffiene?
[07:20] <bigleon> i am watching on caffine
[07:20] <Lega> kaffiene doesn't like me or my computer.
[07:21] <Lega> VLC ftw.
[07:21] <hangthedj> try kmplayer, thats one of the first things i install on a new system.
[07:21] <hangthedj> i don't like vlc or kaffiene
[07:21] <Lega> I loathe kaffiene, I'm okay with VLC.
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[07:26] <Lega> Whenever I switch my wireless to roaming mode, the whole computer seems to go crazy- Network won't open, nor Network Tools, and knetworkmanager sporadically will work on and off. The only stable point at which anything work is if I set up the connection manually, but I'd like to be able to roam for wireless. Anyone have any idea why Kubuntu is running so crazy whenever I set it to roaming mode?
[07:26] <Lega> Also... When I do set it to roaming mode, and knetworkmanager tries to connect to a wireless signal, it always, always gets stuck at the "configuring device" stage (28%), and goes no further. :\
[07:28] <Ryiel> bigleon: have youi installed xine-ui ?
[07:30] <bigleon> no
[07:31] <xsteelwolf> fire still there?
[07:31] <michael__> are there any mp3 to midi transcribers for linux?
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[07:32] <hangthedj> michael__, i think timidity does midi to mp3, not sure about mp3 to midi
[07:32] <michael__> mp3 to midi needs some polyphonic recognition
[07:32] <Legato> Argh.
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[07:33] <Legato> Well, it seems the Ubuntu IRC network hates my nick for some reason. Oh well.
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[07:39] <judgen> Why does amarokapp use all my cpu runtime?
[07:39] <word> might be searching for things to add to it's library :-/
[07:40] <word> i forget what i had done but for some reason it flipped out when searching through my songs...
[07:40] <word> and it took up 100%
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[07:40] <word> i think it was the folder/file names o.O or a file that wasn't a music file with a .mp3...
[07:42] <judgen> aah
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[07:47] <word> judgen: that fix it?
[07:47] <flaccid> amarok does leak like that
[07:47] <flaccid> there is no ifx. amarok uses perl scripts and so forth which is the main reason. you can try to report bugs if you can pinpoint it..
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[07:48] <word> flaccid: are they redoing that bit in 2.0?
[07:48] <flaccid> doub it
[07:48] <word> :(
[07:48] <flaccid> you can go to #amarok and maybe they will help identify what is leaking
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[07:50] <michael__> what is the command to make a script executable
[07:50] <michael__> chmod what
[07:51] <xsteelwolf_> FIRE you there?
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[07:52] <flaccid> michael__: chmod +x filename
[07:52] <hangthedj> michael__, chmod +x script
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[08:07] <flaccid> hydra ouch thats windows
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[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can cope with windows users coming by
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully they're getting a feel for the other users of the os before making the switch themselves
[08:11] <judgen> it was a song in windows mp4 format After i removed it everything went smoothly
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[08:12] <judgen> haha is there any point to kibadock?
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[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> as a dock, sure, as an excercise in environmental physics, no.
[08:14] <ubuntu> jjimenezjm@hotmail.com
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[08:14] <ubuntu> esta alguien conectado
[08:15] <ubuntu> hola
[08:15] <stdin> !es
[08:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:15] <ubuntu> porfavor conteste
[08:15] <ubuntu> grcias
[08:15] <ubuntu> solo estaba probando pues soy nuevo en esto
[08:15] <ubuntu> gracias
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[08:16] <flaccid> i think my point was more that hydra only makes for windows
[08:16] <judgen> !se
[08:16] <Mr_Sonoma> !es | ubuntu
[08:16] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
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[08:17] <ubuntu> hola
[08:17] <ubuntu> que tal
[08:18] <ubuntu> soy nuevo alguin puede responder
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[08:19] <holycow> man
[08:19] <holycow> the new gutsy monitor autodetection feature is amazing
[08:19] <judgen> anyone got the cartoon userfriendly in a tar somewhere?
[08:19] <holycow> plug in my umps to any monitor and i get the monitors specific resolution options
[08:19] <holycow> this is amazing
[08:19] <Mr_Sonoma> gutsy slowed my machine too much, must have some considerably bigger memory requirements.
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[08:20] <Mr_Sonoma> but it looked very very nice from what little i seen
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[08:27] <dhq> which is the best gui antivirus and firewall for kubuntu
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[08:28] <stdin> antivirus? none, don't need it. firewall, don't know if it's the best but guarddog is good
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[08:29] <coreymon77> dhq: youre new to linux arent you?
[08:29] <dhq> coreymon77, well its been a year
[08:30] <coreymon77> dhq: then dont you know by now that linux dont need those things?
[08:30] <dhq> coreymon77, well i know there arent any viruses for linux that are big but i run a server so i dont want to take risk
[08:30] <dotz> anyone knows how to type in a link in bash eg: wget ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip ? where username is "!@#" and password is "#$%"..need the regular expression in order to input those characters..
[08:30] <Igorot> guarddog blocks ssmtp and pop3s... so if you're using gmail, i suggest you use another.
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[08:30] <stdin> dotz: use quotes, wget "ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip" or wget 'ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip'
[08:31] <Igorot> dhq: if you have windows pcs connected, then you'll need an anti-virus, to protect the windows pc, not linux
[08:31] <dhq> Igorot, well i want a program like zonealarm
[08:31] <coreymon77> who cares about the windows pc
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[08:31] <stdin> windows pc should have their own AV software anyway
[08:31] <coreymon77> let it get infected and rot so that you have an excuse to put linux on it! :P
[08:31] <Igorot> dhq: my system is a server, and im running firestarter... no AV
[08:32] <coreymon77> what, nobodys gonna laugh at my joke?
[08:32] <dotz> stdin: it seems to say Resolving !@... failed: Host not found..
[08:32] <dotz> stdin: seems like having problem with the '#'
[08:32] <dhq> Igorot, well what all protocols does it block
[08:32] <Igorot> coreymon77: hehe..
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[08:33] <Igorot> dhq: by default all, you need to set policies
[08:33] <dotz> is there a special escape character  or something
[08:33] <dhq> Igorot, oh ok its a gui rite
[08:33] <Igorot> yes
[08:33] <dhq> !firestarter
[08:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:33] <stdin> dotz: you can try with --user= and --password=
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[08:33] <Igorot> if you dont want a gui, then try fwbuilder
[08:33] <dhq> Igorot, i use kde
[08:33] <Igorot> or get down and dirty with iptables
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[08:34] <Igorot> dhq: i do too, but i find firestarter better than guarddog or even shorewall
[08:34] <Mr_Sonoma> dhq then type sudo apt-get install guarddog in your konsole window to install the gui for the iptables firewall in linux
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[08:35] <Igorot> the firewall is a personal preference really.. all of them have the same basic feature, it's what you want that really matters
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[08:35] <Igorot> i suggest you try a few, and pick what you think is best for your system
[08:35] <dotz> stdin: think wget can only specify http-user and http-passwd .. but my link was ftp... :(
[08:35] <dhq> Mr_Sonoma, well i heard guarddog blocks gmail and pop3
[08:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> dotz: so...  use ftp
[08:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[08:36] <stdin> dotz: I'm pretty sure it can do ftp-user too
[08:37] <Igorot> dhq: no, just pop3s and ssmtp.. as long as it's using TLS and SSL, it blocks it
[08:37] <stdin> dotz: --user is global, --http-user is for http and --ftp-user is for ftp
[08:37] <Igorot> there's already a bug filed for it
[08:37] <dhq> Igorot, well i do use it
[08:37] <Igorot> yeah, personal preference.. heh!
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[08:42] <stdin> dotz: " wget --user='!@#' --password='#$%' ftp://123.123.123/download.zip " should work
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[08:44] <zipper> got to love that syntax
[08:44] <zipper> so easy to read for people who havent got bash programming experience =)
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[08:49] <xsteelwolf_> anyone on intel 4965agn
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[08:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello.
[08:54] <zipper> morning
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[08:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was playing around with my kde login settings and now I get the standard kde login page. how can I get the nice kubuntu login page back?
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[08:56] <zipper> menu -> System settings -> Splash screen
[08:56] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone know how to turn on repeating keys again
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[08:56] <Doctor_Nick> the cat walked on my key board  and pushed some buttons, now i have no idea how to turn them back on again
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[08:57] <Ryiel> Doctor_Nick: Banish the cat :D
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[08:57] <zipper> Doctor_Nick, my guess would be in menu -> system settings -> accessibility
[08:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> zipper: I tried that. it will give me the nice splash screen but not the login page.
[08:58] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, ah, login page, right. Hang on
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[08:59] <Doctor_Nick> zipper: no, dont see anything
[08:59] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, run 'kcontrol'. System administration -> KDM Theme manager
[08:59] <zipper> Doctor_Nick, i didnt find anything either, but i would believe it was inthere =/
[09:00] <contrast83> Does anyone know what would cause MPlayer to not show up as an option for the player engine in Kaffeine? I'm pretty sure I've got all the relevant packages installed.
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[09:00] <coreymon77> gundam_rx78nt1: try opening kontrol center
[09:00] <coreymon77> gundam_rx78nt1: that usually has a few more options than system settings
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[09:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am in kcontrol and in the System administration section. I don't see a kdm theme manager.
[09:02] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: Run "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[09:02] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, hmm? You're using kubuntu right?
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[09:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, hold on.
[09:02] <contrast83> zipper: You know that's not installed by default, right?
[09:02] <zipper> contrast83, but how could he manage to change his kdm theme without it?
[09:03] <zipper> which is his problem, he wants it back to default
[09:03] <contrast83> zipper: Ermm... Manually. ;-)
[09:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am installing the kdm theme manager. zipper. I just found out what I did.
[09:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> I deleted an xml file.
[09:03] <zipper> contrast83, eek, yeah i guess. My bad.
[09:04] <contrast83> Heh, np
[09:04] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, dele... but why? Oh well, the kdmtheme package should get you up and running again
[09:04] <zipper> i guess
[09:05] <Doctor_Nick> what
[09:05] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: You might need to run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" if you deleted the default theme's xml file
[09:05] <zipper> what what?
[09:05] <Doctor_Nick> there's a limit to how many channels you can join
[09:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> contrast83, it's back up and running.
[09:05] <zipper> contrast83, wont that reset a lot of settings that doesnt need resetting?
[09:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> thanks to the both of you (zipper & contrast83).
[09:06] <contrast83> zipper: No, it installs to /, not /home ;-)
[09:06] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: np
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[09:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> g83iVG4u
[09:06] <zipper> np
[09:06] <zipper> That reminds me
[09:08] <zipper> Some time ago, i received some updates and after installing them my KDM Login screen looks messed up. Like it's zoomed in, and i can "scroll" by moving the curser to the edges of the screen. When i've logged in however, there is no problems. What could be causing this?
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[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> zipper, what video driver do you have?
[09:09] <zipper> 'nvidia'
[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, when you look at your xorg.conf,
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[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> give me a moment, let me look at mine to tell you how to fix it.
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[09:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> In the section display, you should see a couple of resolution settings.
[09:11] <contrast83> zipper: Do you see anything like "Virtual screen size" in your xorg.conf?
[09:11] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, looking at it now... Hmm, i seem to have all these "modeline"'s under my monitor DEVICE. They contain resolutions it seems.
[09:11] <zipper> contrast83, i do... under section "screen"
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[09:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> Yes, I do. change the virtual screen size to your screen resolution, I commented mine and then remove all of the other resolutions under the display section leaving only the one I want for my desktop (1280x800)
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[09:12] <contrast83> zipper: Running a TV as a monitor?
[09:12] <zipper> Virtual 1600 1200 (makes sense, default res is 1280x1024, so 1600x1200 would be zoomed). The line under it says modes "1280x1024@60 1280...."
[09:13] <zipper> no, regular 19" lcd monitor
[09:13] <zipper> brb
[09:13] <zipper> will try removing virtual thinige
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, comment the virtual portion and remove anything after the 1280x1024@60 (if that is the default resoloution you want).
[09:14] <contrast83> yeah, that's what i had to do as well.
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[09:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> man, I went through 4 hours of looking on the net to find that fix.
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[09:15] <zipper> yey
[09:15] <zipper> worked
[09:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> great. now we are even :)
[09:15] <zipper> =D
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[09:16] <zipper> should've thought of that myself, but didnt know virtual desktop was still being used.... i mean, whats the purpose?
[09:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't know.
[09:16] <zipper> i have never ever seen anyone using it
[09:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> but it has been a default for a time now.
[09:16] <zipper> without wanting not to anyway =P
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[09:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> that is what we get for proprietary drivers.
[09:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> but I will take an nvidia over ati in linux any day.
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[09:20] <zipper> uhm
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[09:20] <zipper> yeah probably
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[09:21] <zipper> although gundam_rx78nt1, AMD/Ati has announced to release open-source drivers (!)
[09:21] <zipper> i cant remember any dates though
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[09:21] <zipper> but it might make me consider getting ATI next time i buy a gfx-card
[09:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> true, that we will have to see. native drivers will work wonderfully. Hope nvidia follows suit also.
[09:22] <zipper> Yeah, thats what i'm hoping as well
[09:23] <zipper> and imho, there is no real reason not to... I mean, i really doubt their competitors will benefit that much from seeing the drivers
[09:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> I'm trying to customize my laptop with linux to make my 'friends' with vista envy.
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[09:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> true.
[09:23] <zipper> =)
[09:23] <contrast83> i read a pretty good article on that issue over at phoronix.com. one of the x.org devs they talked to explained pretty thoroughly that nvidia doesn't have much reason to follow suit, given the reasons AMD had for their recent move
[09:23] <zipper> compiz.... aero-killer #1 =)
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[09:24] <zipper> contrast83, oh? Sounds interesting. Why not follow?
[09:24] <gundam_rx78nt1> how does compiz work now? I tried it a while back and my system crashed every 15 minutes or so.
[09:24] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, same here, but i've got a friend who installed it recently, runs like a charm
[09:24] <hangthedj> gundam_rx78nt1, i had the same problem, but it works good now.
[09:24] <zipper> and he's not THAT linux savvy, although he has some experience
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[09:25] <hangthedj> actually, on my desktop which is old, it doesn't work anymore, but on my laptop which is very new, it works great.
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[09:27] <zipper> sigh, i have that problem with my laptop. Apparently ACPI and linux doesnt work well on it. Every other thing i was able to fix, but i kind of need having some kind of power control, since its a laptop and all =/
[09:27] <contrast83> zipper: I don't remember all the details, but it had something to do with how AMD does processors and the specs they just released on their graphic cards are needed to make them play well with said processors, I *think*.
[09:27] <zipper> contrast83, makes sense, although i dont completely buy it.... Oh well, time will tell
[09:27] <contrast83> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=838&num=2
[09:28] <zipper> should rather be installing and configuring fluxbox instead of reading all that =)
[09:28] <contrast83> Hehe
[09:28] <rrbiz> is there an apt command to remove all archives?
[09:29] <jussi01> apt-cache clean IIRC
[09:29] <zipper> rrbiz, to remove everything? You really want that?
[09:29] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to fix usplash if its just showing a blank screen?  i've tried --reinstall, and dpkg-reconfigure on usplash usplash...kubuntu-theme and libusplash.  It hasn't worked since my first upgrade on edgy.
[09:29] <rrbiz> i've got almost 1 gig in archives
[09:29] <contrast83> apt-get clean
[09:29] <zipper> !fluxbox
[09:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[09:30] <rrbiz> contrast83: cool that did it
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[09:30] <contrast83> rrbiz: Getting low on HD space?
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[09:30] <hangthedj> !usplash
[09:31] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:31] <rrbiz> just don't have that much space as i have a dual boot setup and can't spare too much on this partion
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[09:31] <contrast83> rrbiz: You might also want to make sure you don't have any old kernels that you're no longer using installed
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[09:32] <zipper> contrast83, haha.... i spent 2 hours the other day debugging X and KDM to figure out why i could not login only to realize i had 0kb space available on /
[09:32] <rrbiz> contrast83: yeah i do, u know the command or howto remove them ?
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[09:32] <zipper> =/
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[09:32] <RurouniJones> zipper: Yea I had that before :(
[09:32] <jussi01> Could someone tell me how to make a lineart picture from a photo (in gimp or someother program)?
[09:33] <RurouniJones> Wish it would give you a hint instead of dying abruptly
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[09:33] <zipper> RurouniJones, yeah it would be nice... but now i know what to check for next time it happends
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[09:34] <rrbiz> it's good to keep track how much HD space ur at basically
[09:34] <greencookie> Does anyone else use the netgear adapter?
[09:34] <contrast83> rrbiz: "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux" then "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-<version-number>-generic
[09:34] <zipper> yeah... but noone does that rrbiz  =P
[09:35] <zipper> at least, not anyone with 500+gb
[09:35] <rrbiz> lol wow i prob wouldn't either
[09:35] <zipper> i know you should, but gah
[09:35] <zipper> one would think with 500gb, you never have to clean up... but you do =/
[09:36] <greencookie> Hi linux newb here. Just wondering what your computer specs are.
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[09:36] <greencookie> 250gb here
[09:36] <zipper> d'oh
[09:36] <contrast83> rrbiz: that first command just shows the packages installed that have linux in the name, so you'd obviously just want to look at the output of that to see which version you want to remove (i.e., the older one)
[09:36] <zipper> just uninstalled my system spec scripts
[09:37] <jussi01> !offtopic | greencookie
[09:37] <ubotu> greencookie: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:37] <rrbiz> contrast83: would i then need to clean up my menu.lst afterwards myself ?
[09:37] <coreymon77> zipper: you are just a walking disaster trap system breaker arent you
[09:37] <greencookie> thanks ubotu
[09:37] <contrast83> rrbiz: nope, that's automagic, i believe.
[09:38] <jussi01> !bot | greencookie
[09:38] <zipper> lol coreymon77 ... Thats a bit harsh =P
[09:38] <rrbiz> contrast83: ok thnx let me try this stuff
[09:38] <ubotu> greencookie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:38] <coreymon77> zipper: not reallu
[09:38] <contrast83> rrbiz: np
[09:38] <greencookie> oh lol. thanks jussi01
[09:38] <greencookie> sry. new to all this:)
[09:38] <coreymon77> zipper: its just that every time we hear form you its, doh! i just messed up something else!
[09:39] <zipper> =/
[09:39] <zipper> it's true
[09:39] <greencookie> !bot | jussi01
[09:39] <ubotu> jussi01: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:39] <zipper> luckily these days, it (almost) never anything important =)
[09:39] <jussi01> !botabuse > greencookie
[09:39] <jussi01>  :)
[09:40] <coreymon77> zipper: almost
[09:40] <coreymon77> well
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[09:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> isn't that the reason we are here, to laugh at each other and their problems, ohh, did I say laugh, I really meant to help. really, honestly...
[09:40] <zipper> coreymon77, but cmon... i had the system info script for 3 months without anyone ever asking me for system specs. I uninstalled it yesterday and what happens? Today someone asks for system stats =/
[09:40] <coreymon77> its time for bed
[09:40] <coreymon77> gnight everyone
[09:41] <gundam_rx78nt1>  gnight.
[09:41] <coreymon77> zipper: such is life eh?
[09:41] <zipper> i guess =/
[09:41] <greencookie> good night.
[09:41] <zipper> good night i guess?
[09:41] <zipper> heh
[09:41] <zipper> still morning for me
[09:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am back on the clock now. I have to work until 10:00am. I have 8.25 hours left.
[09:42] <coreymon77> i know, but its 3:42 in the morning here
[09:42] <zipper> =D
[09:42] <zipper> time zones will always entertain me
[09:42] <zipper> 9:42 here
[09:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> you in the west coast zipper?
[09:43] <greencookie> 2:40a.
[09:43] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, closer to Denmark, Europe really
[09:43] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[09:43] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: September 17 2007, 10:43:25 - Next meeting: IRC Council in 4 hours 16 minutes
[09:43] <coreymon77> and as i leave, i leave you all with the timezone discussion
[09:43] <coreymon77> zipper: get with it!
[09:43] <greencookie> can anyone help me find why my internet connection dies every 15 mins but in windows its fine and stable?
[09:43] <zipper> =)
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[09:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, I thought you said you had 9.42 hours ...
[09:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry, my bad.
[09:43] <zipper> greencookie, wireless or wired?
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[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> Denmark, man I miss Europe.
[09:44] <greencookie> zipper: wireless
[09:44] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, hehe, college here mate... No nazi SS-dude calling me names when i dont meet at 8:00
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> greencookie, what wireless card do you have?
[09:44] <greencookie> lol
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> lol.
[09:44] <greencookie> gundam_rx78nt1: netgear usb adapter.
[09:45] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, i like it here.... We have our ups and downs, but i guess everyone does
[09:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you update to the latest madwifi drivers?
[09:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> I lived in Hiedelberg for 3 years.
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[09:45] <zipper> Thats holland right?
[09:45] <greencookie> um... no. how can I do that?:)
[09:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> Germany.
[09:46] <stdin> !ot | gundam_rx78nt, zipper
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[09:46] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt, zipper: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:46] <zipper> sorry
[09:46] <jussi01> hehe
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[09:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> my bad. back to work.
[09:46] <zipper> greencookie, if you're using WPA encryption, you could, for debugging, try using un-encrypted and see if that is stable
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[09:47] <hangthedj> anybody know a good backup tool for kubuntu?
[09:47] <zipper> or even WEP
[09:47] <tuco> Hello all. I can't move a downloaded theme to /usr/shar/apps/kdm/themes. Why's that?
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[09:47] <jussi01> !backup
[09:47] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
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[09:47] <greencookie> theres no password on my wifi if thats what u mean.. i cant use uuntu to connect to a secured wireless.
[09:47] <greencookie> ubuntu*
[09:47] <zipper> greencookie, hmm i see
[09:47] <stdin> tuco: because you don't have permissions to do that
[09:48] <tuco> Ah!
[09:48] <tuco> How can I do it Stdin?
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[09:48] <greencookie> zipper: the net connection is very unpredictable..i get disconnected often.
[09:48] <stdin> tuco: you can normally install themes with the theme installer, from the kdmtheme package
[09:48] <tuco> I can't...
[09:48] <zipper> greencookie, What driver do you use for your network card? You might want to consider using ndiswrapper instead
[09:48] <stdin> !changethemes | tuco
[09:48] <ubotu> tuco: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[09:49] <tuco> It's all greyed out
[09:49] <zipper> tuco, click the "Administrator mode" button
[09:49] <stdin> see that last link
[09:49] <tuco> it's not there
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[09:49] <contrast83> tuco: Run this from a terminal: "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[09:49] <zipper> =/
[09:49] <contrast83> tuco: That'll give you a GUI in System Settings/Control Center for changing the KDM theme
[09:49] <greencookie> zipper: erm, I dont know the command to look up the network driver :P:P
[09:49] <tuco> trying now
[09:50] <zipper> greencookie, neither do i... I'll assume you have the default driver then?
[09:50] <rrbiz> contrast83: kool i removed more than 300megs of old kernel packages
[09:50] <greencookie> yep. this is my setup of ubuntu out of the box.
[09:50] <zipper> greencookie, try running 'lspci' to find out the name of your network card
[09:50] <tuco> already installed Stdin
[09:50] <greencookie> i havent tweaked around with anything (maybe cuz i dont know how to:))
[09:50] <greencookie> ok sec.
[09:50] <stdin> tuco: then read the last link ubotu gave you
[09:51] <zipper> rrbiz, oh really? Got a good guide for removing old kernel images? I need to do that as well
[09:51] <rrbiz> zipper: scroll up contrast83 gave me the steps
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[09:51] <zipper> rrbiz, okay must've missed it. Thanks
[09:51] <contrast83> zipper: "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux" then "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-<version-number>-generic"
[09:52] <greencookie> zipper: Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
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[09:54] <rrbiz> i had almost gave up on samba yesterday trying to share an ntfs drive, then found u have to add smbusers, works great now
[09:54] <tuco> Stdin I in am in the theme manager but can't see any admin priviledges to click on
[09:55] <rrbiz> gnome and kde network sharing don't really help much with that
[09:55] <contrast83> tuco: KDM Theme Manager?
[09:55] <zipper> contrast83, got it, thanks. 200mb for me =)
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[09:55] <contrast83> zipper: np
[09:55] <stdin> tuco: you have to run kcontrol as root, with "kdesu kcontrol"
[09:55] <tuco> Yes
[09:55] <contrast83> Erm, no you don't... At least, I never did.
[09:56] <stdin> to edit kdm's theme you do, there's no user themes, just system wide
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[09:56] <stdin> so it need root, and there's no admin button
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[09:57] <zipper> greencookie, dont have much experience with that broadcom, but i have a BCM43xx myself. There is a driver in the repositories for that one, but doubt it would work on your card. Besides, on my card it didnt work out too well. I'm out of ideas, tried to find a guide on the wiki for your network card (or even just for your laptop (if it is a laptop))? Otherwise google can sometimes help you find a guide, although they might be out-dated
[09:57] <stdin> contrast83: in feisty?
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[09:57] <stdin> zipper: lspci won't show usb devices...
[09:57] <tuco> There is something odd here. What to choose to install the kdm theme, you know the one with the log in and password. I can't see it now
[09:57] <contrast83> stdin: Gutsy at the moment, but I 110% clearly remember it being there when I used Feisty. Did they change that in a recent update?
[09:58] <zipper> stdin, i took a chance =)
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[09:58] <stdin> contrast83: I know there is one in gutsy, but don't think there was in feisty. I haven't used festy for months tho
[09:59] <tuco> Let's say I want to install this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/the+linux+force+widescreen+1280x800?content=57385
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[10:00] <tuco> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I found it
[10:00] <contrast83> stdin: Any idea why they have KDM themes disabled by default in Gutsy?
[10:01] <stdin> contrast83: they are disabled by default in all releases. so it uses the default
[10:01] <zipper> I've found a guide for installing fluxbox, but it assumes you're using GDM. Anyone know how to add fluxbox to the 'section selection' in KDM?
[10:02] <contrast83> stdin: No, I mean the override files that make it so changes made in KDM Theme Manager will have no effect
[10:02] <stdin> zipper: fluxbox should just work once installed, as long as you choose it in KDM
[10:02] <zipper> auto-magicly... Nice. Thanks
[10:02] <stdin> contrast83: ahh, you'd have to ask in #kubuntu-devel about that
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[10:03] <contrast83> Oh ok. Thanks
[10:03] <tuco> So basically the only way is to type kdesu kcontrol to be able to get to the theme manager?
[10:04] <stdin> tuco: if there's no Administrator button, yeah. for now
[10:04] <tuco> is this a bug in Edgy?
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[10:04] <tuco> will it be corrected in Gutsy?
[10:04] <contrast83> tuco: Already is
[10:04] <stdin> it already is
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[10:05] <zipper> Hmm, for some reason i have two "fluxbox" entries in my kdm sessions menu?
[10:05] <tuco> so can't I change directly from the system settings then?
[10:05] <hangthedj> anybody have a backup *favorite*?
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[10:06] <contrast83> hangthedj: Yeah. Mine is having seperate partitions for /home and /, and just keeping a script in /home/mike/.BACKUP that will set everything in / back to how I want it upon reinstalling.
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[10:07] <hangthedj> contrast83, thats my favorite too, but this system was installed when edgy was beta, and i knew nothing about linux.
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[10:08] <contrast83> hangthedj: So no seperate partitions?
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[10:08] <hangthedj> nope, not on this box.
[10:08] <tuco> Ok anyway guys thanks for the help and have a great day.
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[10:09] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong
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[10:10] <contrast83> hangthedj: What I would do is pop in a live CD, mount the hard drive, and delete *everything* except the stuff in your /home folders that you want to keep. Rename /home to whatever (as long as it's not the name of an actual folder under /), and just reinstall, creating seperate partitions this time (just don't format the one your old stuff is on, obviously)
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[10:11] <contrast83> hangthedj: Do you know the dpkg --get-selections/set-selections magic?
[10:14] <stdin> !clone
[10:14] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[10:15] <contrast83> !automate
[10:15] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
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[10:17] <hangthedj> contrast83, that is a beautiful idea, thank you very much.
[10:19] <contrast83> hangthedj: np. i was forced into doing that when i borked grub, and i was praying it would work the whole time, as i hadn't read of it anywhere. just went out on a limb.
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[10:19] <contrast83> hangthedj: i *think* the permissions won't be preserved though. that's the only catch.
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[10:23] <rrbiz> safest thing is commonaly using partimage to create complete backups on another partition or external sources media or net
[10:23] <zolder> is there a way to set up kubuntu from local iso image?
[10:23] <stdin> !install
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:23] <zolder> like using usb-flash card?
[10:24] <stdin> read that 1st link, it'll tell you
[10:24] <zolder> I've looked through them already...
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[10:25] <stdin> so you've seen the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick one ?
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[10:26] <zolder> yeah
[10:26] <zolder> 2 points my flash is small
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[10:29] <zolder> so I'm looking for a smaller image - just to boot from flash and then point the way to an image on hdd
[10:30] <zolder> something like in suse
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[10:36] <Zvezdichko> hello, I'd lie to run the wizard ( the wizard when you install KDE ) again
[10:36] <Zvezdichko> what was the command
[10:37] <emilsedgh> Zvezdichko: kpersonalizer
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[10:38] <Zvezdichko> maybe... because Linux should be as heavy as Windows Shitta :)
[10:39] <bentob0x> in Konqueror: how do you open all 'branches' when you are on Tree View?
[10:40] <emilsedgh> KDE 3 is heavier than KDE 4 :)
[10:40] <bentob0x> in Windows, you can use the * to open everything in the windows explorer
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[10:40] <xsteelwolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[10:40] <xsteelwolf> what is this error
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[10:44] <stdin> xsteelwolf: means make failed, some error in the code maybe
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[11:31] <shriphani> is there any software I can use to communicate with my hp 50g calculator ?
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[11:57] <kraut> moin
[11:57] <sylvester_> moin
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[12:08] <X1398> hi
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[12:08] <Tautoa> Morning :)
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[12:09] <X1398> does anyone know how i could reboot in linux from vista
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[12:09] <X1398> (without setting grubs default to linux)
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[12:10] <Tautoa> What do you mean? Like, you're in Vista, and you want to give it a command to reboot straight to Linux?
[12:11] <X1398> yeah
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[12:11] <Tautoa> I've never heard of a way... so either setting linux as default or picking it from GRUB manually, I guess?
[12:12] <X1398> may be setting the default in grub via script to another point, but how to set it back in linux when bootet?
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[12:14] <X1398> other question i've got a dvd(css secured ^^) and want to play the content, i thought vlc would do it but it crashes (v0.8.6)
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[12:14] <Tautoa> I'm just guessing now, but you could probably get Linux to check whichever file the GRUB menu is kept in, and make sure that it has Vista as default, with a script that runs on startup. I don't think you could use a script to boot Linux from Vista though
[12:15] <ardchoille> IS there a kde equivalent for the gimp?
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[12:15] <X1398> yeah gimp
[12:15] <X1398> xD
[12:15] <Tautoa> Ardchoille: not heard of one, I use GIMP anyways :)
[12:16] <stuart_> Can somebody tell me what happens if I install something that isn't in a repository? Im used to synaptic looking after updates and stuff.
[12:16] <ardchoille> The only trouble with gimp is when using baghira, the gimp ui goes all black
[12:17] <X1398> stuart_:  what do u want to install?
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[12:17] <stuart_> X1398: It's just a general inquiry. Want to understand the implications before (say) I install Adobe Acrobat
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[12:17] <X1398> ardchoille: ive heard of something ill search it but this'll take a few min?
[12:18] <X1398> stuart_:  may be u'll find a equivalent to Adobe xD
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[12:19] <ardchoille> X1398: Ah, ok.. much appreciated :)
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[12:20] <stuart_> X1398: Silly example. But I'm assuming that if I install something "manually" that synaptic can't track it's dependecies nor any updates even if it is an offical binary from say Adobe?
[12:20] <X1398> ardchoille: found: Lightzone - www.lightcrafts.com
[12:21] <X1398> stuart_:  sure
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[12:22] <X1398> stuart_:  may be u'll've to istall some apps with aptitude to get the depencies and updates
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[12:22] <ardchoille> X1398: Thanks, but it's not OS and it's not in the repos.
[12:22] <Tautoa> Ardchoille: is there not an option to get GTK apps to use your KDE theme?
[12:23] <stuart_> X1398: OK, so it's something to be avoided. Becuase the security updates etc. delivered via Synaptic are useful. Can it introduce problems with the software that is already installed (eg. use a new version of some library and therefore break existing stuff)?
[12:23] <stuart_> X1398: Aptitude is similar to synaptic right? Are you saying that i can use that to install (and then track) stuff?
[12:23] <X1398> stuart_:  apt is able to do it right i think, but manually install something that u dont know about is crazy
[12:24] <jussi01> !info krita | ardchoille
[12:24] <ubotu> ardchoille: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
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[12:24] <ardchoille> jussi01: That's the one I was thinking of, thanks
[12:24] <stuart_> X1398: What if it's from a reputable vendor? Say the Adobe's of this world?
[12:24] <jussi01> ardchoille: :)
[12:25] <jussi01> stuart_: I think medibuntu has acrobat
[12:25] <stuart_> X1398: Opera for example is not in the repositories that are enabled by default
[12:25] <jussi01> !medibuntu
[12:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:25] <X1398> yeah medibuntu could do this
[12:25] <ardchoille> Tautoa: Yes, but gimp doesn't seem to play well with some of them
[12:25] <stuart_> is medibuntu to be trusted?
[12:25] <jussi01> !seveas
[12:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[12:26] <jussi01> stuart_: medibuntu is pretty good, yes
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[12:26] <neville__> I just stumbled into here ... I didnt even know it was on my machine ,
[12:27] <stuart_> jussi01: ok thanks
[12:27] <jussi01> :)
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[12:27] <neville__> I dont know how I got it started or how to get out of it ...
[12:27] <jussi01> neville__: ?
[12:28] <Tautoa> Neville__: what program are you using?
[12:28] <X1398> anyone knows a way to play css crypted dvds in kubuntu with vlc media player v0.8.6?
[12:28] <neville__> kubuntu
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[12:28] <jussi01> !dvd | X1398
[12:28] <ubotu> X1398: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:29] <neville__> I do know I stuffed around with my settings and lost my msn cnnection
[12:29] <Tautoa> I mean, which IRC program?
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[12:29] <jussi01> sounds like kopete
[12:29] <neville__> yup .. kopete
[12:29] <niels_> Hmm.... For some weird reason konqueror doesn't work in gutsy. It says can't connect, for all websites. I have network connectivity.
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[12:30] <Tautoa> I'm using Kopete... not sure how you could accidently wind up here tho :)
[12:30] <neville__> where you from ?
[12:30] <neville__> I'm in New Zealand
[12:30] <Tautoa> UK?
[12:30] <neville__> top of the south island
[12:31] <Tautoa> I don't know why I used a question mark there...
[12:31] <jussi01> !offtopic
[12:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
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[12:32] <Tautoa> Jussi01: thanks, only been using IRC since last night, I'll figure out what I'm doing soon
[12:32] <Ribena007> morning
[12:33] <jussi01> Tautoa: :)
[12:33] <maverick> "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" sometimes i get this msg from the kernel when i try to connect to wireless net... and i can't connect until i restart..any ideas?
[12:34] <X1398> ist the adept better than synaptic packet mang.?
[12:35] <Tautoa> X1398, both do the same job, methinks, just pick which one you prefer
[12:35] <jussi01> X1398: no, its the same, but kde....
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[12:38] <neville__> how do I load my msn back into kopete?
[12:39] <jussi01> neville__: you may just have to sign in again - is there a msn icon at the bottom?
[12:39] <Ribena007> neville_ settings > configure > add account
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[12:39] <neville__> I cant get kopete to stay loaded
[12:39] <Tautoa> Any error messages?
[12:39] <neville__> ok will try that , thank you
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[12:40] <Ribena007> neville_ if the settings are in just try changing status to busy and it opens the wallet :P
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[12:41] <neville__> I have 2 accounts already loaded , but they dont sem to want to appear anymore
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[12:41] <jbbarnes> Does anyone else have a touchpad on their laptop? Mine is ALPS using the synaptic driver. The pointer is too slow and the KDE mouse speed setting doesn't affect it. Any ideas? Thanks.
[12:42] <X1398> isnt there a way to get my dvbt tv card from hauppauge to run with kubuntu, i mean an application
[12:42] <jbbarnes> I've tried some of the utilities like qsynaptic. They worked to turn off the double-tap feature, but had no speed or sensitivity settings.
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[12:46] <X1398> !webcam | X1398
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[12:48] <hak5fan> Hi. After some tweaking I can play multiple songs at once using alsaplayer, but I can't using anything else... How do I fix this....
[12:49] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
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[12:50] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: only when my network adapter was not installed properly. what kind of network card you have?
[12:51] <XsteelWolf> at exactly 28%?
[12:51] <XsteelWolf> im using intel 4965agn
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[12:51] <X1398> how to set a device in camorama?
[12:52] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: yeah, exactly 28. I dont know about that card, but I would say at least some googling is in order.
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[12:52] <X1398> !camorama
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camorama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <XsteelWolf> !repeat | ubotu
[12:54] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:54] <XsteelWolf> lol
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[12:55] <jussi01> !botabuse > XsteelWolf
[12:55] <jussi01> :)
[12:55] <XsteelWolf> lol
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[12:55] <X1398> !botabuse | X1398
[12:57] <X1398> does anyone use a webcam from logitech in here?+
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[12:57] <jussi01> !anyone > X1398
[12:58] <jussi01> :P
[12:58] <X1398> -.-'
[12:58] <X1398> !shutup damn bot | ubotu
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutup damn bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <X1398> next question: my webcamsoftware camerama does display my pci tv card not my usb webcam
[01:00] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
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[01:00] <X1398> !repeat | XsteelWolf
[01:00] <ubotu> XsteelWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
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[01:02] <XsteelWolf> im reasking  since some had join
[01:02] <XsteelWolf> not consider repeat
[01:02] <XsteelWolf> !botabuse > X1398
[01:02] <X1398> !being a good bot, who wont spam arround. | ubotu
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[01:07] <Tautoa> /NOTIFY
[01:07] <jussi01> XsteelWolf: if you are using gutsy, then you should be in +1
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[01:09] <lacko> Slovensko?
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[01:10] <lacko> Hi girls.
[01:11] <maverick>  "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" sometimes i get this msg from the kernel when i try to connect to wireless net... and i can't connect until i restart..any ideas?
[01:11] <Ribena007> anyone ever managed to get a webcam to work in kubuntu? :P
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[01:11] <prudvi> how to make a file owned by root.root
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[01:11] <emilsedgh> !hi | lacko
[01:11] <ubotu> lacko: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:12] <NickPresta> prudvi, `chown root FILE` and `chgrp root FILE`
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[01:12] <CheshireKot> 
[01:13] <NickPresta> CheshireKot, which language?
[01:13] <prudvi> the file is in desktop nick how to locate it
[01:13] <CheshireKot> russian, chief!)))
[01:13] <NickPresta> prudvi, open up a Konsole and then do `cd Desktop`
[01:13] <NickPresta> !ru | CheshireKot
[01:13] <ubotu> CheshireKot:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:13] <prudvi> ok thank u nick
[01:14] <CheshireKot> I'm already both there and here
[01:14] <CheshireKot> )))
[01:14] <prudvi> nick i get no such file or directory when i use cd desktop
[01:14] <NickPresta> prudvi, you have to change the variable FILE with the actual filename
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[01:15] <prudvi> ok
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[01:15] <prudvi> i will try now and get back nick
[01:16] <Tautoa> Anyone know why the formatting toolbar keeps reappearing in Kopete?
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[01:18] <prudvi> nick i tried but not able to get into desktop intself from terminal
[01:18] <prudvi> it says no such  file or directory
[01:19] <emilsedgh> Tautoa: if you find out why, tell me!
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[01:19] <Tautoa> Emilsedgh: sure...
[01:19] <Tautoa> prudvi: what command are you typing?
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[01:23] <prudvi> cd desktop
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[01:23] <Tautoa> Try cd Desktop
[01:23] <prudvi> ok
[01:24] <prudvi> yea got it so folder names are also case sensitive right
[01:24] <Tautoa> Yeah, just about everything is :)
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[01:25] <Tautoa> I"ve converted everything in /home to be lowercase, so I don't have to think about the case when I'm using the terminal
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[01:27] <prudvi> oh i can alse do that,  will there be any problem
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[01:27] <XsteelWolf> anyone using intel 4965agn?
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[01:28] <Tautoa> Prudvi: I havn't found any, but I suppose if you have links to files in your /home, it could cause a problem
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[01:30] <Tautoa> anyone know how to hide all these status messages?
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[01:38] <vlt> Hello. Is there a list of recently used documents available somewhere? I can't find such an item in K menu.
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[01:42] <Tautoa> vlt: there should be a hidden file in your home directory, called .recently-used
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[01:44] <alef0> vlt: maybe add the "recent documents" applet to the panel
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[01:54] <alesan> hi
[01:55] <alesan> I changed my video cards form ATI to Nvidia... now I finally made it to start X in VESA compatibility mode
[01:55] <alesan> but how can I install the nvidia drivers and let them run? I have a DVI monitor
[01:56] <tautoa> alesan: have you tried the Envy script?
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[01:56] <SlimeyPete> !nvidia
[01:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> !envy
[01:56] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
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[01:57] <tautoa> Ok... didn't know that when I used it :S
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[01:57] <alesan> the restricted manager told me I do not need any restricted driver
[01:57] <alesan> while I have a nvidia 7300 in my system
[01:58] <tautoa> alesan: looks like doing it manually is the way to go then
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[01:59] <alesan> yes
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[02:09] <dragonlance> ciao
[02:09] <dragonlance> hi
[02:09] <dragonlance> i have a problem with kubuntu
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[02:09] <tautoa> ok, what is it?
[02:09] <dragonlance> i have problem with monitor
[02:10] <dragonlance> i have a 7800GTX with 2 DVI
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[02:10] <dragonlance> and Acer Al1751B and acer Al1951E
[02:11] <dragonlance> but the monitor are unknown
[02:11] <melkor> Wow just yesterday I was complaining about not being able to use the streaming radio because it was microsoft
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[02:11] <dragonlance> the 17'' is Plug n play  and the 19 don't work
[02:11] <melkor> and today....I see the eu has ruled in our favor
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[02:12] <dragonlance> i wanna do "extended Desktop" with 2 monitor
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[02:12] <tautoa> dragonlance: I've tried to do it before and couldn't get it to work, although I was using a TV, so you might have more luck. Sorry!
[02:13] <dragonlance> :(
[02:13] <dragonlance> k
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[02:13] <dragonlance> how can ADD monitor in list of hardware?
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[02:14] <tautoa> If you have a look around UbuntuForums.org, i think theres a tutorial for dual monitors, you have to add some stuff to xorg.conf
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[02:15] <dragonlance> the main problem is that 19'' is "unknown periferic"
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[02:15] <dragonlance> i can't configure it
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[02:15] <dragonlance> i have just installed Nvidia Drivers
[02:15] <mjrclark> if you use the proprietry drivers there is a nvidia tool to set up multiple monitors.
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[02:16] <RurouniJones> melkor: And yet the BBC decides to use an MS only player for its content.
[02:16] <vlt> tautoa: Thank you
[02:16] <RurouniJones> 3 steps forwards, 2 back
[02:16] <vlt> alef0: How can I add this applet to all users's klippers?
[02:16] <tautoa> vlt: no worries :)
[02:16] <prospero91> I want to know why lspci -X doesn't work on edgy anymore
[02:17] <vlt> alef0: (The recently-used applet)
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[02:17] <tautoa> anyone know how to get my USB stick to work? Its flashing and everything, but its not showing up when i type 'mount' into the terminal
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[02:18] <melkor> tautoa do you have a dev when you put it in?
[02:18] <mjrclark> dragonlance: I use "nvidia-settings" to configure dual screens, it is in /usr/bin/ after installing the proprietry drivers.
[02:18] <tautoa> erm... I don't know :)
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[02:19] <melkor> tautua ls /dev/ | grep sda
[02:19] <melkor> mine usually shows up as sda01
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[02:20] <alef0> vlt: right click on the panel -> panel menu -> add applet to panel
[02:21] <tautoa> I get four; sda, sda1, sda2, and sda3. But sda1, 2, and 3 are my hard-drives... they show up as sd rather than hd :s
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[02:21] <melkor> hou about sdb?
[02:22] <melkor> tautoa there are two things I have done in this situation, a) take it out and plug it back in, then kde finds it or
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[02:22] <tautoa> oh... no, my hard drives are sda, sdb, and sdc, sorry. thats odd :s
[02:22] <vlt> alef0: That's a lot of right clicks ... I mean what file do I have to cp to other users's .kde dir?
[02:23] <melkor> tautoa b) I run a program calledu usbmodules
[02:23] <dragonlance> Tautoa.. what the different form TWINVIEW and Separate X screen?
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[02:23] <wers> if I hide my kicker (still running but not visible), will it take less cpu usage?
[02:23] <tautoa> melkor: right, I'll have a look for that
[02:24] <tautoa> dragonlance: not sure, tbh :s
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[02:24] <dragonlance> tbh?
[02:24] <melkor> to be honest
[02:24] <melkor> ?
[02:25] <dragonlance> my monitor now Work..
[02:25] <mjrclark> if you run things fullscreen in twinview it covers both screens, with seperate x screens it just covers one
[02:25] <dragonlance> ooook
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[02:25] <dragonlance> :)
[02:25] <dragonlance> thanks
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[02:25] <dragonlance> Xinerama?
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[02:25] <dragonlance> what is?
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[02:26] <mjrclark> it lets you move windows from one monitor to the other if using seperate x screens.
[02:26] <maverick> am sending this link if anyone recognizes the theme please tell me the name i'd like much to have it also the name of the system monitor at the top right of the screen and the kicker image http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=66046&file1=66046-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Onthel
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[02:26] <ArmedKing> looks nice maverick
[02:26] <mjrclark> I think, they all work, I settled on seperate x screens without xinerama.
[02:27] <maverick> ArmedKing: really nice, but i don't know where to get or what's the name...
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[02:27] <ArmedKing> maverick: If you do find it, Let me know ;-)
[02:27] <maverick> ok :D
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[02:28] <maverick> i 've just the author a msg anyway
[02:28] <maverick> sent*
[02:28] <ArmedKing> kk Nice, let me know what happens :p
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[02:28] <Gabriel_> hi guys ..
[02:29] <dragonlance> i restat
[02:29] <dragonlance> restart :) thanks
[02:31] <Gabriel_> today i wanted to log in my kubuntu 6.06 LTS.. but when i tried logging in through the graphic login screen, the xserver restarts itself and it looked like nothing happened
[02:31] <maverick> ArmedKing: do you know of any good system monitor ??
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[02:31] <Gabriel_> if i type in a false password, the info about the fals password comes and the xserver doesnt restart ..
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[02:32] <mjrclark> Gabriel , have you run out of disk space?
[02:32] <Gabriel_> hm .. i dont think so .. but it could be ..
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[02:32] <Gabriel_> i dont know, what my brother did on the windows site of the computer
[02:33] <Gabriel_> hm .. what can i do then ..
[02:34] <Gabriel_> i asked my brother .. he installed a game on a full drive :( ..
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[02:35] <Gabriel_> do you have any idea mjrclark ... its very important
[02:35] <mjrclark> go in through the command line and free some space/use a bootable disk to do that
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[02:35] <Gabriel_> i tried to start ubuntu 7.04 .. but every time it comes to an error ...
[02:36] <Gabriel_> btw: in windows it looks like there would be a graphic problem ..
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[02:36] <Gabriel_> windows doesnt even show a login screen
[02:38] <mjrclark> oh, maybe it is a graphics problem then rather than no disk space- but no idea what you could have changed to wipe out both OSs.
[02:38] <Gabriel_> i think its a windows problem .. but windows is fully distroyed
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[02:38] <ArmedKing> Well aint that a good thing?
[02:38] <ArmedKing> Just kidding dude haha
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[02:39] <mjrclark> could you be more specific- ie you have removed windows or it is destroyed because it will not work at all, even in safe mode?
[02:39] <Gabriel_> another problem: how can i acess a harddrive from the command line ?
[02:39] <Gabriel_> i want to copy some documents from the destroyed windows partition to a usb drive
[02:39] <ArmedKing> Is it mounted?
[02:40] <Gabriel_> hm .. i dont think so
[02:40] <Gabriel_> so .. no
[02:40] <Gabriel_> i have a tower with 2 drives .. 1 linux 1windows
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[02:41] <tautoa> do you know the what the hard drive is called? i.e. /dev/???
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[02:42] <Gabriel_> i forgot it .. it actually istn my main computer
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[02:42] <eljefe> can I "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from within an XTerm?  I cannot read the screen when I go to a different TTY.
[02:43] <tautoa> Gabriel_: do you have the partition editor installed? You can find it from there
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[02:43] <tautoa> no, wait, if you can't login then that won't work... ignore me :S
[02:43] <Gabriel_> ^^
[02:43] <Gabriel_> i m now in recovery mode with root acesses
[02:43] <main2> :')
[02:44] <Gabriel_> so im logged in .. but dont have a Xserver
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[02:44] <mjrclark> have a couple of guesses then; you need to make a folder then "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /folder youmade"
[02:44] <Gabriel_> k
[02:44] <mjrclark> replacing hda1 with hda2 if it mounts the wrong thing, then try hdb1 , hdb2 and you should get it.
[02:45] <Gabriel_> k
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[02:46] <Gabriel_> omg .. can you pls give me the command for creating folders ??
[02:46] <ArmedKing> or sda or sdb
[02:46] <Gabriel_> (i never used the command line ...)
[02:46] <mjrclark> mkdir
[02:46] <ArmedKing> Theres a first for everything ;-)
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[02:47] <Gabriel_> ^^
[02:47] <kumamoto> Gabriel_: for more options use man mkdir
[02:47] <Gabriel_> k
[02:47] <kumamoto> that is if you feel like being creative
[02:47] <Gabriel_> hehe ..
[02:48] <mjrclark> and "df -h" to see if your disks are full
[02:48] <Gabriel_> output: specify the filesystem type
[02:48] <Gabriel_> windows is normaly ?
[02:48] <mjrclark> fat32
[02:48] <mjrclark> or ntfs
[02:48] <ArmedKing> wel hope you not running ntfs on there
[02:49] <Gabriel_> where do i write fat32 ? -- with -fat32 ?
[02:49] <ArmedKing> mnt -t vfat correct me if i wrong
[02:50] <Gabriel_> when i typed -fat32 i just got a new prompt .. your command: unknown filesystem ..
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[02:51] <ArmedKing> try mnt -t vfat /dev/Here your partition
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[02:52] <Gabriel_> ok
[02:52] <cloakable> How well is Kubuntu working with LTSP?
[02:52] <Gabriel_> here is a nice output ^^
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[02:53] <Gabriel_> a man
[02:53] <Gabriel_> ual
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[02:54] <Gabriel_> mnt not found .. with mount i get a little manual
[02:54] <melkor> is anybody here using kde4?
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[02:56] <jarno_> kukas tll on guru ja osaa neuvoa juuri ensimmist kertaa kubuntun asentanutta
[02:57] <mjrclark> mkdir windows ; mount -t vfat /dev/hda windows
[02:57] <mjrclark> if that just throws out a manual rather than a more specific error message I am stumped.
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[02:57] <melkor> Im guessing only root can do that
[02:58] <Jucato> !fi | jarno_
[02:58] <ubotu> jarno_: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
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[02:58] <ArmedKing> A Karamba Them with 4 cpu Core's is just not nice at all :p haha
[02:58] <ArmedKing> Theme*
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[02:59] <Gabriel_> ha
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[02:59] <Gabriel_> now ... mount: no medium found ..
[03:00] <Gabriel_> now i test hda1, hda 2, and ?
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[03:00] <Gabriel_> k .. on sda: already mounted or windows busy
[03:00] <ArmedKing> sda sdb
[03:01] <JuanP> how i change my hostname?
[03:01] <ArmedKing> just type mount to c whats mounted allready
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[03:02] <Gabriel_> haha .. last line: /dev/hda1/folder on /home....../windoof type 32
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[03:02] <Gabriel_> did my noobcommand somehow work ?
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[03:02] <ArmedKing> Then it allready mounted right
[03:02] <JuanP> how i change my hostname?
[03:02] <Gabriel_> k
[03:03] <Gabriel_> how can i get through the windows files ?
[03:03] <ArmedKing> JuanP trie running "hostname hereyournewhostname"
[03:03] <genii> JuanP: Change whats in /etc/hostname
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[03:04] <genii> JuanP: You'll need admin privelege, so something like sudo nano /etc/hostname from commandline, kdesu kate /etc/hostname from kde
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[03:04] <JuanP> thanks ArmedKing, genii
[03:05] <Gabriel_> how can i access my windows files now, when i mounted the drive ?
[03:05] <ArmedKing> JuanP No problenm
[03:05] <mjrclark> cd to change directories, cp to copy things (cp source destination)
[03:05] <Gabriel_> hm ... where do i find the drive ^^
[03:06] <mjrclark> the /home....../windoof bit is where it is so "cd /home....../windoof" with the right bit instead of dots
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[03:06] <Gabriel_> nothing :(
[03:07] <Gabriel_> ls .. nothing but a new prompt
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[03:09] <nmongher> Ho un problema con un HD, qualcuno mi sa aiutare??
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[03:10] <Jucato> !it | nmongher
[03:10] <ubotu> nmongher: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
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[03:10] <nmongher> ops, scusate
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[03:11] <Gabriel_> ... again im running out of time with no success ....
[03:11] <Gabriel_> hm .. but thank you for you help ;-) now i can mount it ^^
[03:11] <Gabriel_> ciao
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[03:14] <tinin> I get a pop up window in the desktop all the time that says: It was not possible to find the mime type application/octet-stream. How could I fix this, please?
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[03:27] <genii> tinin: Make sure the file /etc/mime.types contains a line: application/octet-stream                        bin
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[03:30] <tinin> thanx, aI'll see now genii
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[03:44] <fulat2k> hi folks, is there a way i can add more GTK styles to besides Qt and Raleigh?
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[03:55] <Aattila> Hi! Do somebody know a desktop clock can be used in always on top mode?
[03:55] <ubuntu> Hello , i need some help with kubuntu. i installed it (i succed just with "safe graphic  mode") and i installed beyrl on in and it's now show a white screen...(btw i got 965 chipset)
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[03:58] <fulat2k> hi folks, is kde4b2 still broken?  i got kdebase-workspace installed but when i start a new kde4 session, the desktop loads but lots of "this object cannot be loaded".  and it's totally unusable
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[03:58] <hydrogen> fulat2k: yes
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[03:58] <hydrogen> its better in current svn
[03:58] <hydrogen> but even there its still not that great
[03:59] <ivanbili> hi, my video card driver got corrupted
[03:59] <hydrogen> the workspace is in really bad shape
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[03:59] <hydrogen> games and apps are working nicely though
[03:59] <ivanbili> a friend told me to use my old xorg.conf
[03:59] <ivanbili> how do I do that?
[03:59] <fulat2k> hydrogen: darn.
[03:59] <fulat2k> hydrogen: i'm too lazy to build from svn... or is there a simpler way?
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[04:00] <hydrogen> fulat2k: there are daily livecd's from the opensuse folks
[04:00] <hydrogen> that you could test it on
[04:00] <hydrogen> or regular livecd's, not daily
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[04:00] <fulat2k> hydrogen: what about on kubuntu feisty?
[04:00] <hydrogen> nah
[04:00] <hydrogen> but if you use a livecd to test
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[04:00] <hydrogen> then it leaves your partition alone :)
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[04:00] <fulat2k> ic. oh well.  wil wait till 4.0 hits the street then
[04:00] <Tomerz> Hello , i need some help with kubuntu. i installed it (i succed just with "safe graphic  mode") and i installed beyrl on in and it's now show a white screen...(btw i got 965 chipset) (sry about double message)
[04:01] <hydrogen> theres a beta3 coming in october
[04:01] <hydrogen> that should (hopefully) be more usable
[04:01] <fulat2k> hope so too
[04:01] <hydrogen> but the task launcher/systray/kicker replacement is in woefully bad shape
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[04:02] <fulat2k> ah.
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[04:03] <fulat2k> well..
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[04:03] <fulat2k> :)
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[04:07] <Tomerz> :< no one can help me?? :<
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[04:08] <genii> Tomerz: Perhaps ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:08] <slackern> Tomerz, sorry but keep checking a little now and then, might come someone able to help
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[04:10] <ivanbili> can I somehow access my mp3 files on my windows partition?
[04:10] <JuanP> yes you can ivanbili
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[04:10] <Tomerz> oh i need it to
[04:11] <Tomerz> there is no way to delete beyrl with the disc or something?
[04:11] <JuanP> first install libxine-extracodecs ivanbili
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[04:12] <ivanbili> I am reading this now https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
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[04:14] <NightBird> ivanbili: I'm guessing the partition is ntfs?
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[04:15] <NightBird> !ntfs | ivanbili
[04:15] <ubotu> ivanbili: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:15] <feimao> !mkfs
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <NightBird> well bah, you're already looking at the right thing
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[04:16] <ibilic> what is a .vmx file? it looks like a batch file
[04:16] <ibilic> how do I run it? just navigate to it in console and type its name?
[04:17] <llutz> ibilic: vmware-image?
[04:17] <The_Machine> vmx is vmware
[04:17] <The_Machine> google.com :P
[04:17] <ibilic> thanks :)
[04:18] <Tomerz> k i will reinstall kubuntu
[04:18] <Tomerz> but i want beyrl :<
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[04:18] <Tomerz> i installed it from the add/remove programs it is ok?
[04:18] <zipper> !wiget
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <zipper> !wigets
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wigets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, that's fine
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[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's no reason you should have to reinstall kubuntu
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a windows solution, not a linux one.
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> #ubunut-effects will be able to help with the "white screen of death"
[04:19] <The_Machine> Tomerz - you will learn more about linux if you can figure out how to overcome your problems
[04:19] <The_Machine> without reinstalling
[04:19] <The_Machine> don't go the Windows route when dealing with problems
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> 90% of the time, all that means is that your colour depth is set wrong.
[04:19] <The_Machine> format/reinstall is a crap solution to computer problems.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> and "reboot" is not a step in the troubleshooting flowchart.
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's something you do when you update your kernel
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[04:20] <The_Machine> Daisuke-Ido, it's a hard habit to break
[04:20] <The_Machine> reboot, even
[04:20] <Tomerz> so... what can i do... the isnt answer me... i thought maybe to boot from cd and use some fix mode...
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> The_Machine: oh i know
[04:20] <The_Machine> Tomerz, what' the issue?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: hit ctrl-alt-f1
[04:21] <Tomerz> what it's doing?
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[04:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> drops you to a vt (virtual terminal
[04:21] <The_Machine> heh.
[04:22] <The_Machine> you're going to make him stuck unless you also tell him how to get back, man
[04:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh!
[04:22] <NightBird> >_>
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[04:22] <Tomerz> and in this terminal what can i do?
[04:23] <NightBird> Tomerz: make changes to the system, and get it working if the gui isn't working
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> in short, everything
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's the beauty of linux
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> the learning curve is a bit higher, but there's *nothing* you can't do in a terminal
[04:23] <NightBird> Tomerz: when you run beryl, all you see is white?
[04:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, for right now we'll stick to the normal issues
[04:24] <Tomerz> i dont know noting on linux... this terminal is in text mode no? i dunno text commands
[04:24] <Tomerz> yes and when i do ctrl+tab i see some folder in square
[04:24] <NightBird> ok
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: if you use linux for a little while, you'll pick up a few, guaranteed
[04:24] <NightBird> Tomerz: are you running xgl?
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: colour depth
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[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> ?
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[04:24] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: or an xgl version incompatability
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, possibly
[04:25] <Tomerz> no..
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: ati, nvidia, or intel graphics?
[04:25] <NightBird> intel
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> k, then we're looking at aiglx
[04:25] <NightBird> ok
[04:25] <NightBird> soon we won't have to worry about that
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[04:25] <Tomerz> i installed kubuntu and right after this beyrl from the add/remove programs
[04:25] <NightBird> finally
[04:25] <jthomas> hey, I have an NVidia card which I want to install and use for a new 1680x1050-resolution monitor.  When I have the card in I cannot boot into KDE, but I don't think that I can get the correct install of the NVidia driver and all its setup without having the card in... I want to use Envy to set it up, but i cannot use it without X running
[04:25] <NightBird> >_>
[04:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, isn't it awesome :)
[04:25] <Tomerz> nvidia 7300gt
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[04:25] <ibilic> can somebody explain something to me: if I am an administrator of my own machine, why do I sometimes have to type the administrative password all the time or use sudo?
[04:26] <ibilic> I am assuming it's a safety feature
[04:26] <NightBird> Tomerz: you have an nvidia card?
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> you aren't the administrator, that's why
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[04:26] <ibilic> but I dont' see the point
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: intel
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[04:26] <Tomerz> Yes
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> by default, you're a limited user, that's by design :)
[04:26] <NightBird> ibilic: it's a safety feature so that you know you're about to do something potentially painful
[04:26] <jthomas> ibilic: yes, since Unix/Linux is made for multiusers.  Also, its not a good idea to always run as the Administrator, so they keep the acounts seperate.
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[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> and a big part of the reason linux doesn't have the gaping security holes that OTHER os does
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[04:28] <Tomerz> meybe its because i didnt installed xserver or somthing?:O
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: in the terminal, type: glxinfo | grep direct
[04:28] <NightBird> Tomerz: uh... if you have any gui, you have an x server
[04:28] <jthomas> hey, I have an NVidia card which I want to install and use for a new 1680x1050-resolution monitor.  When I have the card in I cannot boot into KDE, but I don't think that I can get the correct install of the NVidia driver and all its setup without having the card in... I want to use Envy to set it up, but i cannot use it without X running
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> (what this does is outputs the results of glxinfo to grep, which searches for "direct" and gives you the line(s) it finds)
[04:28] <Tomerz> thats will fix? because i need to reboot and i will not be here
[04:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> jthomas: don't use envy as i ALREADY said
[04:29] <Tomerz> and how to open the terminal? i forgot?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: no, you don't want to reboot yet :)
[04:29] <The_Machine> hehe
[04:29] <jthomas> sorry I missed that... whatever, the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't do it.
[04:29] <Tomerz> i am in the livecd... can it help?
[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-alt-f1 (ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back)
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[04:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> jthomas: well no, it wouldn't, that doesn't install drivers
[04:29] <NightBird> Tomerz: this is something to do in the actual install... are you chatting on the live CD, or on a seperate machine?
[04:29] <genii> hopefully just alt-f7 will do it
[04:30] <Tomerz> live cd
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii: yeah, i just fallback to using the same key combination
[04:30] <NightBird> hm...
[04:30] <jthomas> Daisuke_Laptop: how would I go about it then?  As I said, I cannot see X with the card installed.  The driver is installed via apt-get; but xorg isn't able to use it
[04:30] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Ah, OK :0
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> what card?
[04:30] <jthomas> NVidia 440 or something, its kinda old
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> and what driver package did you install?
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[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> you need nvidia-glx-legacy
[04:31] <jthomas> NVG11AM is the lable but it shows differently at PC boot up time
[04:31] <jthomas> nvidia-glx
[04:31] <jthomas> aah
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's the problem :D
[04:31] <jthomas> cool ok thank yo
[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're welcome
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[04:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> one down, one to go
[04:31] <jthomas> all right, i'll give it a shot in a few minutes.  thanks!
[04:31] <NightBird> :P
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[04:32] <ibilic> ok, I want to run vmware to run a virtual windows machine, but it says in the log file that it has insufficient permission to acces the file
[04:32] <ibilic> Insufficient permissions to access the file (115) (0x3)
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: can you log into kde failsafe (if there is one) or gnome failsafe?
[04:33] <Tomerz> what is failsafe?
[04:33] <ibilic> I tried to type "sudo vmware" and it didn't work either
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: on the login screen
[04:33] <ibilic> the file that it can't access is on my Desktop
[04:33] <Tomerz> i cant just write a command that bring in kde?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> errr...  on the login screen, there's a 'sessions' button
[04:33] <Tomerz> i can see the login screen
[04:33] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: Failsafe usually stops short of the GUI.
[04:33] <Tomerz> and also the loading
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[04:34] <NightBird> Tomerz: yes, the problem is with beryl tries to start up
[04:34] <NightBird> right?
[04:34] <NightBird> thats when everything goes white?
[04:34] <Tomerz> yes
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins: yeah, as long as we can get to his xorg.conf
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[04:34] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: we probably can now
[04:34] <Tomerz> but when i do ctrl + tab  i can see some folder in some square
[04:34] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Laptop: Well, just that makes KDE/gnome moot.
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: cdroot?
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> chroot*
[04:35] <NightBird> Daisuke_Laptop: no, I'm saying the live cd may mount the harddrive as writable
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins: i've never used it, all i know is on here it says failsafe gnome -_-
[04:35] <Tomerz> iam doing*
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: that would be nice
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[04:35] <NightBird> we may have access to his xorg right now
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[04:35] <NightBird> Tomerz: can you open /mount in the file browser?
[04:35] <NightBird> er...
[04:36] <NightBird> /media
[04:36] <NightBird> sorry
[04:36] <Tomerz> here? yes
[04:36] <NightBird> yes
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[04:36] <NightBird> what do you see there?
[04:36] <Tomerz> empty
[04:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: chances are it won't be mounted by default
[04:36] <NightBird> hm...
[04:37] <NightBird> well doh
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> likely /dev/sda1 or /dev/hda1
[04:37] <NightBird> ok... I need to get going to get ready for work...
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> k
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: hit alt-f2 and type konsole
[04:37] <Tomerz> :<
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: i'm still around to get you up and running :D
[04:38] <ibilic> ok, I needed to add myself to the "disk" group... but now when I run vmware, it just loads and then nothing happens (it either terminates or blocks somewhere)
[04:38] <Tomerz> thanks :D
[04:38] <Tomerz> it opens some terminal
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a good thing
[04:38] <ibilic> there is this process "vmware-serverd" but I am not sure what it does
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[04:38] <ibilic> or whether it's related
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> ibilic: it's the vmware server daemon.
[04:39] <ibilic> should I close it?
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope
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[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i would recommend using virtualbox
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: cd /media
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[04:39] <ibilic> you see, I want to use my EXISTING windows partition
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> changes your directory to media
[04:40] <Tomerz> i know :D
[04:40] <Tomerz> i also know su
[04:40] <ibilic> and I found this link: http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[04:40] <Tomerz> and cd ..
[04:40] <Tomerz> mkdir
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: then you have a head start :)  anywho
[04:40] <Tomerz> :P
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo mkdir disk
[04:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> disk is a fine name for now, it's only a temporary mount :)
[04:41] <pemakai2> i can't install ubuntu studio, help me please
[04:41] <Tomerz> no problem... you are the boss
[04:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, i get to be tony danza :D
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[04:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> alright, next step: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk
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[04:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully it won't throw any errors about filesystem, probably will though :\
[04:43] <pemakai2> bye
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[04:43] <Tomerz> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[04:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> xp_killer upgraded :\
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[04:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: well alright then, that's no problem
[04:44] <Tomerz> :D
[04:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[04:45] <Tomerz> done
[04:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd disk
[04:45] <ibilic> ok, what is a .MULTILOCK file?
[04:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> (you may have to sudo -s for this next part)
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[04:45] <ibilic> and when does it get created?
[04:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> no idea, ibilic
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ cd disk
[04:46] <Tomerz> bash: cd: disk: Permission denied
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ sudo -s cd disk
[04:46] <Tomerz> /bin/bash: cd: No such file or directory
[04:46] <Tomerz> ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo -s
[04:47] <Tomerz> oh
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> and try to use pastebin for multiline pastes :)
[04:47] <Tomerz> su is not the same?:O
[04:47] <Tomerz> ok
[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo -s is safer
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[04:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> it will drop you to root for that session
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[04:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> same thing, more or less...
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[04:49] <newsense> whts the best way to install sound themes, icon sets, etc and have them available to all users ?
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[04:50] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get superkaramba to be sticky on viewports in compiz?
[04:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: still with us?
[04:51] <Tomerz> yea :D
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[04:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> get into the directory, i hope?
[04:52] <Tomerz> yea
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> good
[04:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is where it gets FUN!
[04:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo pico /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
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[04:55] <Tomerz> ok... its now opend a new text file
[04:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's nothing in it?
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[04:55] <Tomerz> nop
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> ctrl-x
[04:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is odd
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[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, er...
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[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> type ls in the terminal and give me an idea of the output
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[04:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should see things like opt/ and bin/, etc/
[04:58] <ibilic> while in a man file, how do I search it?
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[04:59] <Tomerz> mmm i think it shows me the files on my window partition... c and d
[04:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> ahhhhh
[04:59] <rickey> i am new to amaoke play and kubuntu7.02 i can play cd,s in it ,but i cant get my radio stream,s
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: install libxine-extracodecs in adept
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[05:00] <emilsedgh> ibilic: from console? I dunno, but you should be able to search in via Konqueror
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[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: umount /media/disk
[05:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> we have the wrong drive mounted :)
[05:00] <Tomerz> umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[05:00] <Tomerz> umount: /media/disk: device is busy
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> cd /
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> then try again
[05:01] <Tomerz> done :D
[05:01] <rickey> thank you  Daisuke
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[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: you're welcome
[05:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, do you know what partition you installed kubuntu on
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[05:02] <Tomerz> i had c d e i think
[05:02] <Tomerz> and on e
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[05:02] <Tomerz> but then the kubuntu changed it...
[05:02] <Tomerz> to swap and /
[05:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> drive letters are a windows construct
[05:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> desktop system
[05:03] <Tomerz> ohhh
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> how many hard drives total?
[05:03] <Tomerz> 5
[05:03] <Tomerz> i think
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> sda5
[05:03] <Tomerz> it's on 5
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, let's try that :)
[05:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> mount /dev/sda5 /media/disk
[05:04] <Tomerz> ccc
[05:04] <Tomerz> /dev/sda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[05:04] <Tomerz> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:04] <NightBird> sda4
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> well then we're narrowing it down :)
[05:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> possibly sda4, but logical partitions start at 5
[05:05] <Tomerz> mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist
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[05:05] <Tomerz> 6 :)
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[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> 6 got it?
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[05:05] <Tomerz> yea...
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> alrighty then
[05:05] <NightBird> sweet
[05:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> sudo pico /media/disk/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <Tomerz> it's gave me another line without warnings
[05:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> there *should* be something in this one :)
[05:06] <Tomerz> now the file is full
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[05:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> excellent
[05:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> scroll down until you see: Section "Screen"
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[05:08] <Tomerz> i found it...
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[05:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> what's the value for DefaultDepth
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[05:09] <Tomerz> 24
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
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[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's right :\
[05:09] <genii> np guys
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[05:09] <Tomerz> i think its because my 965 chipset... it's sucks!
[05:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[05:09] <genii> <-- Always has a pot of coffee on for the hard workers
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> you have the 965?
[05:10] <ScorpKing> lol
[05:10] <Tomerz> i tried to install freebsd and i had a problems with xserver
[05:10] <Tomerz> yes :<
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[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> i love the 965, though it takes a teensy bit of work :)
[05:10] <Tomerz> i installed kubuntu in safe graphics mode
[05:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> is this a dell laptop
[05:10] <NightBird> hm.... Tomerz: I can tell you an option that you can set that will cause beryl to not run, which will prevent the white boxes
[05:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> NightBird: for the moment, i'd say that's a good idea, until we can get his driver issue worked out
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[05:11] <NightBird> ok
[05:11] <NightBird> Tomerz: in the xorg.conf file:  Find the ServerLayout section.  it should be near the tob
[05:11] <rickey> Daisuke i got a proublem i dont have that listing i have thing close ,but not that excate file
[05:11] <NightBird> er... top
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[05:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
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[05:12] <Tomerz> it's near the bottom
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[05:12] <NightBird> oh ok
[05:12] <NightBird> either way
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[05:12] <poison--> mornin
[05:13] <NightBird> at the end of that section, add the following:  Option  "AIGLX" "false"
[05:13] <NightBird> that will disable aiglx acceleration, which beryl is relying on.  it will detect that it's been disabled, and basically quit
[05:13] <NightBird> so you will be left with the regular kde desktop
[05:13] <Tomerz> false with ""?
[05:13] <NightBird> yes
[05:14] <Tomerz> yey :D
[05:14] <NightBird> all of the quotes I put in there should be in place
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[05:14] <Tomerz> how can i ssave the file?
[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: ctrl+o
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[05:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> and just hit enter
[05:15] <rickey> where do i check for that
[05:15] <NightBird> ?
[05:15] <JuJuBee> Im getting an error "Could not start kstartupconfig, Check your installation."  All I did was mve my home directory to /local_home so i can mount /home from my server.  I edited the suer in user management to change it's Home Directory.  Now this.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> s/suer/user
[05:16] <rickey> daisuke where do i check to see if i have enabled them
[05:16] <Tomerz> then ctrl X?
[05:16] <Tomerz> and to reboot?:O
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, since kstartupconfig should be in /home/user, there's an issue
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: that's correct
[05:16] <NightBird> Tomerz: yes, reboot into the local install
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: Adept > Manage Repositories
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Why, wouldnt that be in /local_home/user now?
[05:16] <Tomerz> btw how to close the terminal?
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> JuJuBee: it's not looking there, though
[05:16] <NightBird> Tomerz: type exit
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: exit
[05:16] <Tomerz> local install? not to the regular kubuntu
[05:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[05:16] <JuJuBee> How do I tell it to?
[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: yes, to regular kubuntu :)
[05:17] <NightBird> Tomerz: don't boot the live cd
[05:17] <JuJuBee> I modifed the user to change the home dir.
[05:17] <NightBird> just regular kubuntu
[05:17] <Tomerz> ok :D
[05:17] <Tomerz> thanks alot!!!! both of you!!!! :)
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[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> JuJuBee: i wouldn't recommend doing that, admittedly it's because i've never attempted it
[05:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i have no idea how to go about that
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[05:18] <JuJuBee> How should I deal with a machine that uses a local usera account (admin) and all others are on server (nis/nfs..)?  Should I mount the server on /home2 or something like that?
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[05:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should mount users individually, in /home/username
[05:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would think
[05:19] <rickey> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[05:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[05:19] <rickey> help
[05:20] <rickey> nothing elas is open that i know of
[05:20] <JuJuBee> I am mounting /home from server via fstab
[05:20] <JuJuBee> That way whichever user logs in, they have their ~/
[05:20] <NightBird> !adept-crash
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <NightBird> bah
[05:20] <NightBird> !adept-fix
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: close adept and anything else that's open :)
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> WAIT
[05:20] <NightBird> !fix-adept
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <NightBird> right
[05:20] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix
[05:20] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> anything else using apt that's open
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[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's it :)
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[05:21] <NightBird> ok then
[05:21] <NightBird> I'm out
[05:21] <NightBird> (for real this time)
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[05:25] <ubuntu> why does gusty have by default hp fax and hp fax book?
[05:26] <rickey> ok i am back it is open  thanks guy,s
[05:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> because it went to hplip
[05:27] <ubuntu> ubuntu whent to hplip?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> yes
[05:27] <ubuntu> for what reason?   cups wasn't cutting it?
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[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> you'd have to ask the dev team about that one
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> gnomefreak?  got any insight to that one?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: holip is not the same as cups but in gutsy iirc we are not using cups as default anymmore its using system-config-printer
[05:29] <gnomefreak> hplip
[05:30] <gnomefreak> iirc that is installed to better support hp printing
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[05:30] <gnomefreak> if you dont have hp printer it is installed but i dont think you ever have to touch it just use cups or s-c-p as you normally would
[05:30] <rickey> Daisuke everything in manage repositories is chhecked and all i have in my list is libine_perl and libine ruby
[05:30] <ubuntu> but why install it by default?
[05:31] <ubuntu> so does gusty "detect" hp printers, or does it just install it and say ok
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[05:31] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: to better support h printer iirc. why are you asking ubuntu and gutsy questions in  a kubuntu channel? gutsy see #ubuntu+1
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[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> rickey: close out adept and open a terminal (this is less painful that way)
[05:32] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: i think it is there to try and detect hp printers but i cant say for sure my hp isnt hooked up atm
[05:32] <Tomerz> No :<
[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> no?
[05:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> back on the live cd, i take it?
[05:32] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: well, because it's a kubuntu gusty live cd
[05:32] <ubuntu> and i am previewing it
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: its not installed on kubuntu be default is it?
[05:33] <Tomerz> yes
[05:33] <gnomefreak> s/be/by
[05:33] <gnomefreak> oh goodie
[05:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> ubuntu - this still isn't the channel for gutsy issues :\
[05:33] <BluesKaj> perhaps HP has provided the drivers to the ubuntu dev team to help users with HP printers an easy setup
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: join #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <ubuntu> it bothers me a bit that there are propietry software installed from the get go.  is hplip open source.  btw, hplip is in fiesty as well
[05:33] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: yes, it is
[05:34] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: what propietry software is installed by default?
[05:34] <ubuntu> i'll find a gusty channel and see how gusty they are
[05:34] <ubuntu> er, gutsy
[05:34] <dhq> i am using a epson lx 800 dot matrix 9-pin printer i am using generic drivers but the fonts are not clear
[05:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> #ubuntu+1 *is* the gutsy channel.
[05:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're using a dot matrix printer and you're complaining the fonts aren't clear?
[05:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sorry, i gotta at least chuckle at that :)
[05:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: by default there is no non free apps installed
[05:35] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta mow the lawn
[05:35] <gnomefreak> or drivers for that matter
[05:35] <ubuntu> hrm, konverstation doesn't wrap the topic
[05:35] <ubuntu> *shrugs*
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[05:35] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, in windows it works well
[05:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> dhq: yeah, but it's just the concept of the thing :)
[05:36] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, i nrrd it to work in linux
[05:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sure there's a way to fix it.  i have no idea what it would be, but i'm sure it's there :)
[05:36] <ubuntu> gnomefreak: non free and oss?  or free but closed source?
[05:36] <BluesKaj> I still had to run the cups printer wizard for our HP network printer , there was no auto-detection after installing samba either
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[05:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: you stated there was propietry software installed by default
[05:36] <dhq> Daisuke_Laptop, well there should be a way ... because in windows it works
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: there is not any
[05:36] <Tomerz> i back :O
[05:37] <Tomerz> i think the best will be to reinstall
[05:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> i hate to recommend that though :\
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=== gnomefreak was thinking about doing that too :(
[05:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, if it works for you, you're free to do so :)
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[05:38] <Tomerz> lol D:
[05:38] <Tomerz> but xgl will not work to me?
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> you don't want to use xgl at all
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> xgl is eeeevil
[05:39] <gnomefreak> you damn sure dont want to reinstall because xgl doesnt work
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> (especially since you're using a 965)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> thats just insane
[05:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> gnomefreak: WSOD in beryl
[05:40] <Tomerz> but i want something like that
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> Tomerz: then you want aiglx
[05:40] <Tomerz> maybe i need to install older version of xserver?
[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> noooo
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[05:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> if it's trying to start xgl, couldn't he just remove that from the session entry?
[05:41] <Tomerz> ok it's looks nice
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[05:42] <Tomerz> i install it as same as beyrl?:O
[05:42] <ibilic> I think I mounted a Windows disk, but now I can't access it
[05:42] <ibilic> it says that I don't have enought permission
[05:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> beryl will run on top of xgl or aiglx
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[05:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, xgl is being used less and less because of compatibility issues
[05:42] <ibilic> on another note, when I run "su" to try to access it, it says that the authorization fails
[05:44] <Zevs> selam
[05:44] <Zevs> sss
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[05:44] <cloakable> ibilic: That's because root account is disabled in Kubuntu
[05:44] <Tomerz> so i dont understand... i need to install it now and not to reinstall?:O
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[05:45] <Tomerz> or in the new kubuntu to install  aiglx?
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[05:47] <ibilic> cloakable: ok, so how do I enable it?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> Tomerz: if you have feisty aiglx is there already
[05:47] <cloakable> ibilic: sudo su
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[05:47] <cloakable> ibilic: enter your password
[05:47] <ibilic> thanks!
[05:47] <y8ding> hi...i have dapper and they don't support broadcom chipsets and I can't get it to work =_=
[05:47] <y8ding> wireless i mean
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[05:48] <Tomerz> and how do i turn it on??:O
[05:49] <prospero91> test
[05:49] <ubuntu> y8ding: you need bcm-fwcutter
[05:49] <prospero91> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV5RCJUS_eo beryl on a 50 inch smart board right there
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[05:50] <ubuntu> y8ding: lspci, and post your broadcom line
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[05:52] <aguitel> anyone work with ati radeon  IGP 330M/340M/350M ?
[05:52] <poison--> whats dat?
[05:52] <poison--> laptop gfx?
[05:52] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[05:52] <aguitel> video card
[05:52] <aguitel> in laptop
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[05:53] <poison--> and whats the problem aguitel?
[05:53] <y8ding> =_= sadly i uhm...am not using my home computer
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[05:53] <y8ding> i remember unknown device
[05:53] <y8ding> dev 01
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[05:54] <aguitel> poison, poor screen resolution
[05:54] <poison--> y8ding, use ndiswrapper
[05:54] <poison--> did u tested Envy?
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[05:54] <lewix> hi
[05:54] <lewix> so anyone know what should I do about my screen saver. the screen went dark after a while as if i'm hibernating. Also, I would like the screensaver to change automatically after a few seconds
[05:54] <aguitel> poison, yes but dont work
[05:54] <y8ding> i did try using ndiswrapper and failed miserably
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[05:55] <poison--> aguitel, justa s ec
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[05:55] <poison--> y8ding, i have a how 2 here, just a sec
[05:55] <aguitel> ok poison
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[05:56] <poison--> aguitel, did envy installed the driver with no errors at all?
[05:57] <aguitel> poison ,this is old video card and envy say not support it
[05:57] <poison--> hummm
[05:57] <aguitel> poison ,i try to install mannualy but nothing change and x do not start
[05:57] <poison--> tried to dl the driver from ATI.com and install?
[05:58] <lewix> I don't get it, I'm don't have any sound
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[05:58] <lewix> I was watching a video on youtube and the sound faded out
[05:58] <lewix> now I'm trying to play a widget-sound but it wouldn't work
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[05:58] <poison--> y8ding, did u try to blacklist the default driver?
[05:59] <lewix> what's the problem
[05:59] <y8ding> uhm...no not yet...don't know how
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[06:00] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[06:00] <y8ding> then again i could probably search that up
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[06:00] <poison--> y8ding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[06:00] <poison--> worked fine with me with two diferent laptops usin that card
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[06:01] <poison--> echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
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[06:01] <poison--> only worked for me after i did dat
[06:01] <y8ding> huh...cool...i didn't find this...will definitely try it
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[06:02] <poison--> make sure u have the lates ndiswrapper 1.47 ( i think ) and all the dependencies
[06:02] <Tomerz> Daisuke_Laptop : so to reinstall kubuntu?
[06:02] <moofoo> is there a backport of openoffice 2.3 for feisty somewhere?
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[06:04] <ibilic> how do I "undo" a su command?
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[06:05] <poison--> depends
[06:05] <poison--> on what u did
[06:05] <ibilic> in the terminal, I wrote "sudo su"
[06:05] <ibilic> and accessed some files
[06:05] <llutz> ibilic: ctrl-d
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[06:05] <ibilic> my prompt changed from $ to #
[06:05] <ibilic> now I want it to change back
[06:05] <llutz> ibilic: ctrl-d
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[06:06] <poison--> eheheh
[06:06] <poison--> u only changed from regular user to root
[06:06] <poison--> no problem with dat
[06:07] <poison--> its like: "Im a cop and u have to respect my authority!!"
[06:07] <poison--> lmao
[06:07] <ibilic> sure
[06:08] <ibilic> so how do i change it back?
[06:08] <moofoo> http://xkcd.com/149/ <- it's more like this ;)
[06:08] <llutz> ibilic: 3rd time: press "ctrl-d" or type "exit"
[06:08] <ibilic> sorry, thanks :)
[06:08] <ibilic> now, next question, how do I access these hidden files from Knqueror?
[06:08] <genii> ibilic: If you modified any files in the regular users' home directory that normally are owned by that regular user you may need to change ownership to them again after. Anyhow, to exit su type exit.
[06:09] <ibilic> no, I mounted a Windows partition
[06:09] <ibilic> in the mnt folder
[06:09] <ibilic> and wanted to access it
[06:09] <ubuntu> so what's this i hear about not being able to access root user?
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[06:09] <genii> !root | ubuntu
[06:09] <poison--> u can act like root
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[06:10] <ubotu> ubuntu: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
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[06:10] <jhutchins> !SUDO
[06:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[06:10] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:10] <ubuntu> well, you can reset the root password as well and become "root", but someone tells me that that is not root either?
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[06:11] <hydrogen> it is root
[06:11] <ubuntu> so what gives with ubuntu, why give up root?
[06:11] <ubuntu> ok, that is what i thought
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[06:11] <jhutchins> Yum!
[06:11] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Read the stuff at the URL above for why.
[06:11] <hydrogen> patching root out of linux would be pretty much impossible
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[06:11] <hydrogen> though you could rename root I guess
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[06:17] <jthomas> Daisuke_Ido: I was unsuccessful with the NVidia-GLX-legacy package :(  why do you recommend against Envy?
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[06:18] <lewix> who lied that linux don't freeze
[06:18] <lewix> it's fucking freezing lol.
[06:18] <jthomas> ??
[06:18] <jthomas> watch the language lewix
[06:18] <BluesKaj> !language | lewix
[06:18] <ubotu> lewix: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:18] <savetheWorld> lewix: you may also want to engage the brain
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[06:20] <savetheWorld> lewix: anyone who interpets such statements in a totally literal fashion is either intentionally looking for an argument or is simply being foolish.
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[06:20] <hydrogen> anyone who makes such statements is as well
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[06:22] <jthomas> does anyone know why I should not use Envy to install NVidia drivers?
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[06:22] <savetheWorld> hydrogen: I'm afraid you lack my years of experience. Dont worry about it.  Time will cure it for you.  *plonk*  (which mean you've been put on ignore)
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !envy | jthomas
[06:22] <ubotu> jthomas: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
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[06:23] <ibilic> "Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files."
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[06:23] <ibilic> ummm... i've done that
[06:23] <ibilic> how do I check if I've "mucked up" my config files
[06:23] <jthomas> hmm, same idea as Automatix i guess.  OK, can anyone tell me if Adept engages the Restricted Manager, or is that something i have to do manually/seperatly?
[06:24] <jthomas> ibilic: if you're working then you're prob safe, i guess!
[06:24] <hydrogen> I think you need to start restricted manager yourself
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[06:24] <ubuntu> i've used root all the time.  if your carefull you can do it well
[06:24] <ubuntu> if your not, hope you have a good backup
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> i  Always manually install/run the restricted manager tool
[06:24] <jthomas> ubuntu why take that chance?
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[06:25] <BluesKaj> !restricted manager
[06:25] <emilsedgh> jthomas: no restriced manager for Feisty...
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[06:25] <hydrogen> yea there is
[06:25] <hydrogen> its just a gnome app
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[06:26] <hydrogen> restricted-manager-kde got added in gutsy
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[06:26] <ubuntu> jthomas: why not.  good practices will not cause you problems
[06:26] <hydrogen> err
[06:26] <hydrogen> using root regularly is not a good practice
[06:27] <BluesKaj> Restricted Manager provides a Gnome user interface for configuring non-free hardware drivers, such as the Nvidia and ATI fglrx X.org and various Wireless LAN kernel modules.
[06:27] <jthomas> it just seems kinda dumb.  thats the point of having different accounts.  Thats like saying, "i drive safe so i don't need a seat belt" when there are other people who can still wreck your machine
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: hope you don't screw anything up running as root, because you're SOL for help when you do.
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> notice i said when, not if
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[06:29] <BluesKaj> jthomas, Restricted Manager is available in adept , synaptic and apt , package managers if you have the repos in your sources.list
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[06:29] <ibilic> ok guys, I mounted a windows partition, put it in mnt... now mnt has root priviledges
[06:29] <ibilic> why?
[06:30] <jthomas> ok well... please don't hurt me but I ended up using Envy anyways and it worked.  Not best practice, I know...  it seems that user Ubuntu rubbed off on me ;)
[06:30] <jthomas> ubuntu sorry i jest
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[06:31] <BluesKaj> well , I would be wary of ppl who don't know how to change their nicks from the default ubuntu when they join freenode, prolly for the first time .
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[06:33] <ubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: been using root for 10 years
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[06:35] <ubuntu> just need to be hyperaware of what user your currently.  and yes, i have screwed something up from time to time, but, hey, that is what backups are for
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[06:35] <ibilic> where can I find a description of what all the folders contain? i.e. bin boot cdrom dev etc home...
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[06:35] <ibilic> also, where do you usually mount your Windows partition?
[06:35] <ibilic> ( for those of you who have one )
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[06:36] <hydrogen> ibilic: look up the FHS
[06:36] <hydrogen> on google
[06:36] <hydrogen> (Filesystem heirarchy standard)
[06:36] <hydrogen> it explains what goes where and why
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[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: To be fair, a lot of us have plenty of experience using the root account.  Over the years I've usually had a root console open on my desktop.
[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: Still, in ubuntu I try to play along with the sudo scheme and not run as root most of the time.
[06:38] <jhutchins> Daisuke_Ido: If I'm impatient to get something done and have a string of root tasks, I'll use the built-in shell function on sudo, but I leave the root account locked.
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[06:39] <hydrogen> what config file is it to make 'xhost +local:user' permanent?
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[06:45] <uga> re
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[06:47] <maverick> anyone know how to execute a *.py script
[06:47] <maverick> ??
[06:47] <maverick> !py
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about py - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <uga> hydrogen: don't use xhost
[06:48] <maverick> !python
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <hydrogen> uga: that doesn't answer my question.
[06:48] <jthomas> ./blah.py
[06:48] <maverick> i did but nothing
[06:48] <rumith> chmod u+x yourscript.py; ./yourscript.py
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: sure, I don't know that one, but ... will you give me the chance to offer you a better solution? =)
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: you need that for the root, right?
[06:48] <jthomas> yes you may need to make it executable
[06:48] <hydrogen> no
[06:48] <uga> hydrogen: well, whatever other user... edit .bashrc, and add export XAUTHORITY=/homn
[06:49] <uga> hydrogen: well, whatever other user... edit .bashrc, and add export XAUTHORITY=/home/runninguser/.Xauthority
[06:49] <uga> that will do
[06:49] <maverick> jthomas: u're right
[06:49] <maverick> thnx ppl
[06:49] <hydrogen> and what benefit does that give over xhost?
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[06:50] <uga> hydrogen: security... with xhost you allow anyone to access your X server. Well, locally, in your case, I guess. With the xauthority export, only the person that got acess to the .Xauthority file
[06:50] <uga> ie, root, or whoever you decided on
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[06:50] <hydrogen> uga: no, I allow that user
[06:50] <hydrogen> xhost +local:user
[06:50] <hydrogen> allows that user
[06:50] <uga> oh, I didn't know that was possible
[06:50] <hydrogen> plus anyone can export XAUTHORITY
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[06:50] <hydrogen> to be the same value
[06:50] <hydrogen> which makes it less secure
[06:50] <uga> hydrogen: no, you need access to the .Xauhtority file
[06:50] <uga> which is in the home of the user running the X server
[06:51] <uga> the variable only points to where the file is
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[06:51] <hydrogen> so uhh
[06:51] <uga> -rw------- 1 uga uga 1058 2007-09-16 13:12 .Xauthority
[06:51] <hydrogen> if I'm running as a different user
[06:51] <hydrogen> then I don't have access to that xauthority file
[06:52] <hydrogen> which makes it unhelpful
[06:52] <uga> unless you give that user permissions
[06:52] <uga> to access the file
[06:52] <uga> not sure how the xhost works. Does it send the user over the net?
[06:52] <hydrogen> I can't give just one user permission to access a file
[06:52] <uga> if applied remotely
[06:52] <hydrogen> without making a separate group
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[06:52] <hydrogen> that only the two users are in
[06:52] <hydrogen> xhost is the proper way
[06:52] <uga> hydrogen: you can, through the ... arf, what was the user table method
[06:53] <hydrogen> so how do I make the settings permanent
[06:53] <uga> there's another method to add permissions to linux users
[06:53] <hydrogen> I don't want some silly hack around the proper way
[06:53] <hydrogen> I want /the/ proper way
[06:53] <uga> hydrogen: xauthority is another proper way suggested by others ;)
[06:53] <hydrogen> uga: theres no way thats the proper way
[06:53] <uga> actually, your line is the first time I see it done right
[06:53] <uga> most just suggest xhosting everyone
[06:54] <uga> which is plain silly
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[06:55] <uga> uhmpf.. I can't recall. there's a way to use unix permissions in a per-user basis. No need to have groups
[06:55] <uga> anyone remembers its name? it's long time I haven't even bothered
[06:55] <Carnage\> ACL
[06:55] <uga> a thanks. Acl lists
[06:55] <Carnage\> :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Ive heard those can be a bit... complex. :)
[06:55] <Carnage\> I think the "l" already means list
[06:55] <Carnage\> Right you are :)
[06:55] <uga> heh, yes =)
[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: kde supports them if enabled
[06:56] <uga> should be simple
[06:56] <uga> I don't think ubuntu got them implemented though
[06:56] <Dr_willis> 'should' :)
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[06:56] <uga> heh
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[06:56] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that was to be an optional feature in Gutsy?
[06:56] <PhinnFort> focus follows mind?
[06:56] <PhinnFort> or the kitchen sink?
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[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: imagine a ubuntu user in a machine. Bob. Then another user, Pat. Pat wants to share an mp3 file with Bob, but none are sysadmins
[06:56] <uga> Dr_willis: how can you do that in linux?
[06:56] <uga> answer: you can't
[06:57] <uga> well, except using networking and e-mail ;)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> uga: you right click, select properties, sharing
[06:57] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:57] <Dr_willis> uga,  hmm.. user bob can make a publid dir in his home dir. letting others access it.
[06:57] <uga> PhinnFort: that's samba sharing or so
[06:57] <Dr_willis> then again you mean 'using only the idiot-gui-interface' :)
[06:57] <PhinnFort> right click properties permissions then
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[06:57] <uga> Dr_willis: only Pat, not everyone ;)
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[06:57] <PhinnFort> uga: nfs or samba, your choosing
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: still perfectly possible from your cozy gui
[06:58] <hydrogen> that allows all users in the group
[06:58] <uga> yeah, as I said, only through networking
[06:58] <Dr_willis> most users dont care. :) they would copy the file over to a thumbdrive and give it to him.
[06:58] <hydrogen> or requires a password
[06:58] <uga> anyway, the groups method is rather limited for permissions. As users can't do much about it
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: didn't you read my second comment?;)
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I for one dont worry about  it. I make a  "Public" share for samba that everyone can access.
[06:58] <PhinnFort> uga: how not?
[06:58] <gary> how do I save a session in kde
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I never use groups. Since i only got the one user. :)
[06:59] <gary> one of
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: I said it was possible through networking from the beginning
[06:59] <uga> nfs/samba/etc
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: he can set it to "users", and give the group read/execute perimissinos
[06:59] <uga> even e-mail
[06:59] <PhinnFort> *ssions
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: and that gives access to everyone
[06:59] <uga> not just Pat
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: and I keep saying you can change permissions
[06:59] <PhinnFort> uga: everyone in the users group
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[06:59] <Dr_willis> totally
[06:59] <uga> PhinnFort: exactly. in order to share a file only with Pat, you'd need to put Pat in a new group and give access to that group
[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: or he can just give read permissions, so the other person needs the filename first
[07:00] <uga> but you can't do that unless you are root
[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: not necessarily
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[07:00] <PhinnFort> uga: in unix, to see folder contents, you need execute permissions
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[07:00] <uga> Dr_willis: me too =)
[07:00] <uga> PhinnFort: yup, but you cannot give permissions of execution only to a single user
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[07:01] <PhinnFort> uga: you don't need to
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[07:01] <uga> PhinnFort: the idea is letting _only_ Pat access the file
[07:01] <PhinnFort> uga: a friend of mine, on the same shared server, gave me the filename for a file in a folder I didn't have execute permissions
[07:01] <uga> and Pat isn't in a specific unix group
[07:01] <Dr_willis> A REAL os would magicially telaport the data over. :)
[07:01] <PhinnFort> security by obscurity, but okay security for what you're talking about
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[07:01] <uga> PhinnFort: oh, that's cheating ;)
[07:01] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:02] <Dr_willis> befor the users even knew they wanted to share the file!
[07:02] <uga> anyway, I think ACL would be nice if enabled
[07:02] <uga> no idea why it wasn't
[07:02] <PhinnFort> no
[07:02] <uga> does it pose any issues?
[07:02] <uga> security wise?
[07:02] <PhinnFort> uga: ubuntu is for humans, human don't need them
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[07:02] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:02] <uga> PhinnFort: acl is exactly how users think
[07:02] <PhinnFort> uga: seriously, I've never met anyone who used them in real life
[07:02] <uga> groups and others isn't usually
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[07:03] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:03] <uga> PhinnFort: anyone? all windows users do ;)
[07:03] <uga> how does osx do this btw? do they use anything like acl?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> uga: we administer a system for some 1800 users or something atm, and we only need standard unix groups
[07:03] <maverick> did anyone managed to install dekorator??
[07:03] <uga> PhinnFort: sysadmins don't need acl. It's users that do ;))
[07:03] <PhinnFort> uga: I think they only use standard unix groups by default (from what i've seen)
[07:04] <PhinnFort> uga: well, none of our users need it (that includes web developers, accounting people, etc.)
[07:04] <uga> lol, have you asked them? :P
[07:04] <PhinnFort> uga: well, they whine about pretty much anything that doesn't work as they would want it to, so...;)
[07:05] <uga> LOL
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[07:06] <uga> PhinnFort: I've been working in a system such big as you mention, as a user. I know the pains sometimes we suffered, but most the times we didn't care commenting on those, because we knew maintenance could become harder
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[07:06] <uga> the system worked as it was, so why bother... but then we had no proper privacy in our /homes
[07:07] <uga> if I were asked. sure I'd have replied I'd want it, and others too
[07:07] <PhinnFort> uga: well, I'm also a user (in another system/cluster of servers), and there we just create non-executable folder when we need to share stuff
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[07:07] <uga> PhinnFort: okay,... how many of the kubuntu users you know, can tell how a non-executable yet readable folder works? =)
[07:08] <uga> I'd say 99% would fail
[07:08] <Tomerz> Daisuke-Ido / Daisuke_ido : so to reinstall kubuntu?:O
[07:09] <BluesKaj> ok, I just installed Thunderbird 2.0 and I need to activate the links in email messages to open my browser , where in about:config thunderbird is that command ?
[07:09] <PhinnFort> uga: well, then we need to educate them:P
[07:09] <uga> lol
[07:10] <lazz0> how much for a lesson
[07:10] <uga> PhinnFort: lets make non-graphical command line default in kubuntu too. and teach them how to run startx ;)
[07:10] <lazz0> :(
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[07:11] <PhinnFort> :P
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[07:12] <PhinnFort> uga: okay, i give up, go and whine to #ubuntu-dev or whatever for acl;)
[07:12] <uga> lol
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[07:14] <uga> PhinnFort: shit, and I thought you were the kdelibs maintainer. Wasted 30mins tryingi to convince a nobody? :P
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[07:14] <uga> PhinnFort: kidding
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[07:14] <stdin> !ohmy | uga
[07:14] <ubotu> uga: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <uga> stdin: it was a joke...
[07:15] <jhutchins> uga: You have been warnded before.
[07:15] <uga> ?
[07:15] <jhutchins> warned even
[07:15] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:15] <stdin> uga: doesn't matter, "family friendly" channel
[07:15] <uga> PhinnFort: please if you felt offended at any point accept my apologize, but I think you understood it was just a joke, as I commented on the next line
[07:16] <uga> stdin: oh ok
[07:16] <ribena007> evening people, how you all doing? :p
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[07:16] <uga> stdin: so no words like "s***t"? =)
[07:16] <stdin> indeed
[07:16] <uga> okay
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: It's the language, not the joke.
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: Make it seriously kid/family friendly.
[07:16] <ribena007> uga got someones attention and all he had to do was swear... interesting :P j/k
[07:16] <jhutchins> uga: Nothing the church lady would object to.
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[07:17] <uga> sure, I didn't know the channel had such strict language rules
[07:17] <jhutchins> ribena007: Actually, his language has been a problem for a couple of days.
[07:17] <jhutchins> ribena007: Did you need attention for something?
[07:17] <stdin> all *buntu* channels do
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[07:17] <jhutchins> uga: Most tech channels do, there's no need for thugish language or behavior.
[07:18] <ribena007> jhutchiris nah it was a joke :P i'm just enjoying me new operating system lol, i prefer not to ask for help you don't learn without trying
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[07:18] <uga> jhutchins: not developer channels that I frequent ;)
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[07:18] <jhutchins> Doesn't say much for the quality of their intellect.
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[07:19] <jhutchins> ribena007: Try tab completion!  Just asking in case you needed something,
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[07:19] <jhutchins> uga: What do you work on in software development?
[07:19] <uga> jhutchins: it's just normal street language. Just check the kernel code sources and have fun
[07:19] <jhutchins> uga: Doesn't matter.
[07:19] <uga> jhutchins: I code kde apps mostly
[07:19] <uga> or embedded systems
[07:19] <stdin> have a read of: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
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[07:20] <jhutchins> uga: Like what? What are you a contributor on?
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[07:20] <uga> jhutchins: my first app was krecipes.sf.net, then I contributed some plugin to digikam, some fixes to the kde desktop, the kdm login manager's themer...
[07:20] <uga> quite varied
[07:21] <uga> you won't find rude language committed by me ;)
[07:21] <ribena007> thanks jhutchins i'm new to all of this lol. spent 3 weeks trying get the internet on
[07:22] <deviance> Whats the shortcut to terminate a window?
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[07:22] <TunaTom> deviance: alt-f4 ?
[07:23] <genii> deviance: ctrl-alt-esc  put skull on offending window, click
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[07:23] <deviance> Thankyou :D
[07:23] <maverick> trying to instal dekorator all goes well, but i can't see anything in Kcontrol....any ideas?
[07:23] <uga> oh, tsdgeos you're here?, can I ask one q... is it troublesome to enable acl list support in kubuntu's kde?
[07:24] <maverick> !repeat | maverick
[07:24] <maverick> !repeat @ maverick
[07:24] <PhinnFort> uga: sorry, I was away:P
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[07:24] <PhinnFort> uga: I'm not easily offended
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[07:24] <tsdgeos> uga: how should i know? i thought you were going to ask something about kpdf :D
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[07:26] <uga> tsdgeos: oh, I thought you were maintaining kde packs, but that was riddell, sorry
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[07:27] <uga> tsdgeos: oh btw, nice work you guys have done in okular
[07:28] <tsdgeos> ;-)
[07:28] <uga> tsdgeos: btw, is it intentional that the thumbs show darker when opening pictures?
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[07:28] <uga> it's hardish to see them sometimes
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[07:29] <tsdgeos> uga: not really, what probably happens is that the "selected" overlay makes it darker
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[07:29] <uga> yup, possibly, since only one pic is open
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[07:30] <uga> since one needs to scroll the box to scroll through the picture, I found that seeing the thumb nicely was important
[07:30] <uga> it's possibly an style issue anyway
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[07:45] <jared> hi all
[07:45] <jared> anyone know about sound problems?
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[07:45] <stdin> !sound
[07:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
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[07:50] <fabian__> Hey Guys! Anybody there who can help me with diff and patch? I have changed a file, then I did "diff old new > changes.diff" and now I don't have the new file anymore, but only the changes.diff. It is not a patchfile. Any suggestions??
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[07:50] <nadrosima> u want change use mv command
[07:50] <nadrosima> not copy or another
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[07:51] <fabian__> well, but that's only a file containing all the differences between old and new...
[07:52] <stdin> patch files use "diff -u old new"  not just "diff old new"
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[07:53] <nadrosima> cp /your-dir/your-old.file /new-dir/new-file.name
[07:53] <fabian__> stdin: well........ I just now that - now. but I've lost the new file.....
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[07:54] <nadrosima> humms
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[07:54] <uga> fabian__: it's just the format that changes. Is it a big file?
[07:54] <nadrosima> what this file type ?
[07:55] <Turazoor> hi all, anyone know why i am getting acces denied faults on mysql (version 5) i have tried loads of username and password combinations, is there a default im not trying?
[07:55] <fabian__> It's a python script... (well, to be exact, it is a gui-script for python)
[07:55] <uga> fabian__: try "patch -n"
[07:55] <uga>     -n  or  --normal
[07:55] <uga>           Interpret the patch file as a normal diff.
[07:56] <uga> ^^^^ rather than unified diff
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[07:56] <fabian__> ah, okay, I'll try!
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[07:58] <fabian__> uga: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37714/ here is the diff file I try to use (one of them, not the gui one), and this is the output:
[07:58] <fabian__> fabian@Macbook:~/Projekte/kde-guidance-powermanager$ patch -n < powermanage.py.diff
[07:58] <fabian__> can't find file to patch at input line 1
[07:58] <fabian__> Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
[07:58] <fabian__> File to patch: powermanage.py
[07:58] <fabian__> patching file powermanage.py
[07:58] <fabian__> patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line
[07:58] <fabian__> patch: **** unexpected end of file in patch at line 58
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[07:59] <uga> uhm
[07:59] <Jucato> !paste | fabian__
[07:59] <ubotu> fabian__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:59] <fabian__> Jucato: I'm sorry! Didn't know it would be that long...
[08:00] <uga> fabian__: you need to specify what file you want to patch
[08:00] <uga> unified diffs contain the filename on top
[08:00] <fabian__> yeah, I did
[08:00] <uga> normal diffs don't
[08:00] <uga> patch -n < powermanage.py.diff <--- you didn't, there
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[08:00] <uga> that's only the diff
[08:00] <uga> where's the file ;)
[08:00] <fabian__> well, patch asks for the file.... see "File to patch:"
[08:00] <uga> oh
[08:00] <fabian__> :)
[08:01] <uga> fabian__: do you have the source file?
[08:01] <uga> so that I can test
[08:01] <uga> s/do you have/can I have
[08:01] <uga> I'm sure it should be possible...
[08:01] <uga> fabian__: else, changes are minimal. You could do them by hand
[08:01] <fabian__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37717/ :)
[08:02] <uga> kay,... lemme test...
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[08:02] <uga> fabian__: errrm... you're not kugler, right? =)
[08:02] <fabian__> well, in this file the changes really are "minimal", but there are 3 other files to patch. one of them is the gui-script, and it is nearly impossible for me to change!
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[08:03] <fabian__> aehm, who?!
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[08:04] <uga> fabian__: sebastien kgler, the original file's author ;)
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[08:04] <fabian__> no, I'm not ;) But I sent him the patches and he's looking on them...
[08:05] <Jucato> that would be sebas
[08:05] <uga> heh okay. I was wondering if there was a nick change :P
[08:05] <fabian__>  :)
[08:05] <Jucato> a whois would tell :)
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[08:05] <uga> aehrmm... sure =)
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[08:06] <uga> fabian__: it looks as if it's searching for something to finish the file
[08:06] <fabian__> hmm...., and what does that mean for me?
[08:06] <uga> fabian__: manually patch it?
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[08:07] <fabian__> oh.... damn...
[08:07] <uga> fabian__: it's simple. the patch lines is only about line number and column no. iirc
[08:07] <uga> and there's only 2-3 blocks
[08:07] <uga> so 2-3 copy pastes only
[08:07] <uga> that is, if the patch is complete
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[08:08] <fabian__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37721/ only to check out what this would mean for me ;) - this is also one of the diffs
[08:09] <yetis> lecek
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[08:10] <stdin> yetis: #ubuntu-tr
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[08:11] <uga> fabian__: I just tested....
[08:11] <uga> diff file1.txt file2.txt >diff.diff
[08:11] <uga> rm file2.txt
[08:11] <uga> patch -n file1.txt diff.diff
[08:11] <uga> ^^^ works fine
[08:11] <uga> so not sure what happenned to your patch
[08:12] <fabian__> hm...
[08:12] <uga> are you sure you got the complete diff file?
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[08:13] <uga> fabian__: it doesn't work with your original file and patch though
[08:13] <uga> have you tried with  the diffs from other files?
[08:14] <fabian__> I'm trying it, just a second please :)
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[08:15] <equipo17> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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[08:16] <fabian__> uga: no, it doesnt work with other patches either :(
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[08:17] <uga> fabian__: maybe normal patches are limited in use
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[08:18] <fabian__> hm.... yeah... maybe they really are....
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[08:18] <Iradigalesc> r
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[08:20] <Cael> is this teh right channel to get help on kubuntu PPC?
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[08:22] <stdin> for kubuntu in general, the place is here
[08:24] <Cael> was going to ask how do i get my imac to boot the installed kubuntu partion, i had to go into OpenFirmware to make it boot the cd.
[08:25] <Cael> (i'm trying to get my mac in general to Dualboot OSX and kubuntu )
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[08:27] <BluesKaj> Hmm, no wonder i'm sticking with kmail , thunderbird 2.0 won't launch the browser from email links ..i know there's fix in t-bird about:config but the terminology escapes my understanding :)
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[08:29] <XboxUser> Can anyone here please help me? im new to kubuntu/linux and don't know to install an app
[08:29] <XboxUser> I have a tar.gz file on my desktop but need help on what to do next
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[08:29] <stdin> !tar
[08:29] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
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[08:29] <stdin> it's like a .zip
[08:30] <XboxUser> ok
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[08:30] <fkm> Is there a way to get rid of the bluetooth-icon in the system settings? I don't have Bluetooth on my desktop computer and if I just remove the bluetooth packages a blank icon remains in the system settings window :(
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[08:31] <stdin> why do you need to remove it, it's not hurting you
[08:31] <fkm> I would. But I don't like KTorrent as much as Azureus ;)
[08:31] <fkm> stdin, no it's rather a cosmetic thing :D
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[08:32] <emilsedgh> XboxUser: just ask
[08:32] <stdin> fkm: well I don't think you can, not without re-compiling
[08:32] <stdin> !pm | XboxUser
[08:32] <ubotu> XboxUser: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:32] <fkm> Ok, thank you stdin :)
[08:32] <stdin> XboxUser: it depends on what you're installing
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[08:34] <XboxUser> im trying to install klibido
[08:34] <XboxUser> dunno what to do
[08:34] <stdin> that's in the repositories
[08:34] <stdin> !info klibido
[08:34] <ubotu> klibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-3ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 427 kB, installed size 1384 kB
[08:34] <XboxUser> ah
[08:34] <uga> XboxUser: you don't need to install it from the sources. What you got are the source code of the application
[08:34] <stdin> use adept to install it
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[08:35] <fabian__> uga: It's the final newline which is missing!!! :) It works :) Thank you so very much!
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[08:35] <uga> fabian__: for nothing? =)
[08:35] <uga> congrats, btw
[08:36] <fabian__> uga: for being there ;)
[08:36] <deviance> Anyone know why when I hit next song it changes song really really fast and doesnt stop, it only happens occasionaly and fixes on restart.
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[08:36] <cochon_dingue> Hi
[08:36] <deviance> It happens in amarok, banshee and kaffine wont play either
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[08:39] <emilsedgh> deviance: whats your AmaroK version? I think this is an old bug...havent seen it for a long time
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[08:40] <Kbroc93> bye all
[08:40] <deviance> How can i check my amarok version without starting it?
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[08:40] <deviance> And it shouldnt affect banshee aswell shout it?
[08:40] <deviance> Ooh, its suddenly started working again
[08:41] <deviance> Its my sound system
[08:41] <emilsedgh> deviance: Help -> About Amarok
[08:41] <deviance> 1.4.5
[08:42] <deviance> Whats the newest version?
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[08:42] <stdin> 1.4.7
[08:43] <deviance> Is the upgrade in the reppos?
[08:43] <deviance> Its not showing me any newer version available at all.
[08:43] <stdin> probably on http://kubuntu.org/packages
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[08:43] <stdin> you'll have to add the apt line
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[08:44] <emilsedgh> deviance: 1.4.7, there are newer packages for kubuntu
[08:44] <deviance> How do I do that stdin?
[08:44] <deviance> Its only up to 145 in the link you sent
[08:45] <emilsedgh> deviance: go to kubuntu.org, I think you could find about AmaroK on latest news
[08:45] <stdin> hmm, should be in feisty-backports actually
[08:45] <stdin> if you're on dapper/edgy then you're stuck
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[08:46] <deviance> Im on feisty. I think the backports are enabled, how do I check?
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[08:46] <stdin> look in Adept
[08:46] <stdin> File > Manage Repositories
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[08:46] <deviance> Okay, 1 sec
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[08:47] <emilsedgh> deviance: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.7.php learns you :)
[08:47] <deviance> Yeah I found it :P
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[08:47] <Morrissey> hi! how do I change the permission of a folder an ALL of its files and recursive folders to my current user to read, write and execute?
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[08:48] <deviance> stdin: In the updates tab, pre-release updates and unsupported updates are unticked.
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[08:48] <deviance> Unsuported are backports, correct?
[08:49] <emilsedgh> Morrissey: there is a checkbox in Properties->Permissions
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[08:49] <stdin> deviance: I think it's unsupported
[08:49] <deviance> Okay :D
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[08:49] <deviance> Thats worked :D
[08:50] <emilsedgh> Morrissey: or in konsole type: chmpd -r 777 /path/to/dir :)
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[08:50] <Minataku> No you're not
[08:50] <deviance> owned
[08:50] <Minataku> lol
[08:50] <stdin> Morrissey: better is "chmod -r u+rw /path/to/dir"
[08:50] <emilsedgh> s/chmpd/chmod
[08:51] <stdin> Morrissey: but why do you need to?
[08:51] <Minataku> Yeah, you don't want EVERYONE having RWX
[08:51] <Morrissey> yeah, thanks stdin :)
[08:51] <Morrissey> stdin, just some permissions on my music files wich I copied from a external drive :) Nothing important .. thanks again
[08:51] <stdin> ok :)
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[08:51] <Minataku> yetis: Sorry, BTW, just messing around
[08:52] <Morrissey> does -R make it recursive? Sounds logic enough ;)
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[08:52] <Minataku> Heh, my external drives are mounted outside my /home for reasons that seemed sensible at the time (and still do, more or less)
[08:52] <stdin> btw, files should *only* be executable if you intend to *execute* then
[08:52] <emilsedgh> stdin: I just wanted to say thanks to you, youre doing a big job here...
[08:53] <deviance> I probably shouldnt have, but my WWW directory I chmoded, I dont care who edits it, as I am the only one who uses this PC, and every time I need to update some files I have to open MC
[08:53] <Minataku> Nonexecutable files, for example, should not have x permission
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[08:53] <Minataku> Same with executable files you don't want being executed for $REASON
[08:54] <lewix> hello
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[08:55] <deviance> stdin:  I did an update, and its updating koffice, even though i dont have it installed, is Kontact or Kexi a component of it?
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[08:56] <stdin> deviance: don't think so, it will only update things that are already installed anyway
[08:56] <deviance> Hmm, well it wasnt installed before :P
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[08:56] <deviance> Doesnt apear to be now
[08:56] <deviance> I guess its needed by someapp
[08:57] <stdin> shouldn't be, if it get's installed it's time to report a bug
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[08:57] <deviance> Well, all up todate now :D
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[08:58] <JuJuBee> I just finished setting up my computer lab.  I have nis running.  I created accounts and students can log in.  I know they are supposed to use yppasswd to change passwords.  When they try to, they get an error "yppasswd not running on master host".  when I do rcpinfo -p (on the server) it looks like yppasswd is running.
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[08:59] <Kbroc93> hi andrea
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[08:59] <Kbroc93> andrea: are you Italian?
[09:00] <inaety> is there a browser that is like epiphany but written in Qt?
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[09:00] <Kbroc93> antonio__: are you italian?
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[09:02] <Tonren> Akregator hasn't updated any feeds in 3 days.  What's the story?
[09:02] <stdin> have you checked it's settings?
[09:03] <BluesKaj> got mine ok, this morning Tonren
[09:03] <Tonren> stdin: Which settings, dude?
[09:03] <Tonren> Bizarre...
[09:03] <Tonren> This is really bizarre.
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[09:03] <stdin> Tonren: Akregator's settings, ie: Settings > Configure Akregator
[09:03] <Tonren> stdin: ..... which settings, though?  There are a lot of settings.
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[09:04] <Tonren> I've manually re-fetched every feed
[09:04] <stdin> the "General" one
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[09:04] <Tonren> Using Ctrl + L, and hitting F5 on each one
[09:04] <stdin> "Use fetching interval"
[09:04] <Tonren> It's at 30 minutes, stdin
[09:04] <stdin> interval fetching rather
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[09:04] <Tonren> But, I've manually refetched all the feeds, and they still haven't updated.
[09:04] <BluesKaj> "fetch all feeds" not responding ?
[09:05] <stdin> then check each feed, right click > edit feed
[09:05] <stdin> see if they use custom intervals
[09:05] <Tonren> BluesKaj: It's responding--I can see the icons dim and re-light as they get fetched
[09:05] <Tonren> stdin: They dont
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[09:05] <Tonren> stdin: Even if they did, it wouldn't matter, because I've been manually refetching them.
[09:05] <stdin> then it should work, fetches them fine here
[09:06] <Tonren> I know it should work... but it's not.
[09:06] <Tonren> The weird thing is that it's not giving me an error.  The feeds aren't becoming X's
[09:06] <Tonren> It's like it's FINDING them, but pretending that they haven't been updated
[09:06] <Tonren> Maybe if I turn off "Use browser cache"...
[09:06] <BluesKaj> is there qicker way to delete old feeds than clicking individual titles with the ctrl key and then deleting ?
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[09:07] <Tonren> Oh, dear.
[09:08] <Tonren> When I unclicked "Use browser cache" and hit Ctrl + L, all feeds turned to X's.
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[09:09] <Tonren> Oop.. now they're back
[09:09] <Tonren> But still not updated.
[09:10] <BluesKaj> AP is really screwed up I have up to 5 copies of each feed at times
[09:10] <Tonren> Can anyone tell me what might be going on?
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[09:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me figure out why yppasswd is not working?
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[09:13] <JuJuBee> Been searching the web to no avail.
[09:13] <poison--> haaarrr
[09:13] <fabian__> good night everyone!
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[09:13] <poison--> hey buds, how can i add a shortcut for mercury anywhere?
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[09:15] <poison--> !java
[09:15] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
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[09:17] <Tonren> Man... what in the world is up with Akregator?!
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[09:20] <boy330> 
[09:20] <boy330> who can give me money
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[09:21] <paolo> hi. when I try to download with apt-get, it connects to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1) and doesn't work. what could be broken?
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[09:21] <Tonren> C'mon guys.  What could be making Akregator think that all its feeds are up-to-date when they're definitely not?
[09:21] <scriptkiddie> paolo: check your sources
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[09:22] <prudvi> hi i am planning to upgrade to 7.10 , will i lose all the applications i have in 7.04
[09:22] <paolo> what should i check in the src list scriptkiddie?
[09:22] <prudvi> and can i upgrade to stable release when it is relessed
[09:23] <BluesKaj> scriptkiddie, stating the obvious doesn't help him
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[09:23] <sahin_h> prudvi: Yes, you can upgrade after.
[09:23] <scriptkiddie> BluesKaj: well then help him
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[09:23] <sahin_h> prudvi: However I recommend to wait for the final release.
[09:23] <prudvi> sahin will it delete my present applications
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[09:23] <scriptkiddie> paolo: open up adept and manage repositories
[09:23] <prudvi> oh ok
[09:24] <sahin_h> prudvi: Just 1 month (nearly)
[09:24] <X1398> i ve installed bzflag in kubuntu but it doesnt show in startmenu
[09:24] <prudvi> ok
[09:24] <paolo> scriptkiddie: already solved (the error was not what you said)
[09:24] <stdin> prudvi: unless you are familiar with dpkg, dependencies and bug fixing, don't upgrade until it's stable
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[09:24] <scriptkiddie> *shrug*, well, i am guessing given the information you told us
[09:24] <prudvi> mm i dont know any,,,better i wait for stable one
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[09:25] <hcbox> is clustering (like with dvdripper) works with other application ?
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[09:25] <esper] > hello
[09:25] <esper] > having some odd issues getting xorg to come back up
[09:25] <esper] > installed the msttcorefonts package
[09:26] <X1398> !repeat | ubotu
[09:26] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
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[09:26] <esper] > and another font named triskweline and it worked fine until i shutdown X to start up a new compile of xmonad
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[09:27] <X1398>  ve installed bzflag in kubuntu how could i creat a shortcut to the "exec/dll"
[09:28] <lewix> do you know a mdn software where we can actually use the webcam
[09:28] <esper] > getting "could not init font path element /usr/share/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, remove from list
[09:28] <esper] > does that for 2 other fonts
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[09:28] <esper] > any ideas?
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[09:29] <esper] > that and "waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE" "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1. fixing
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[09:30] <esper] > completely reconfigured my xorg.conf using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:30] <esper] > and doesnt help
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[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: Could you start the bzflafg from command line?
[09:32] <X1398> no
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[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: So you don't know the path of the program.
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[09:32] <sahin_h> X1398: Well...
[09:32] <X1398> it starts but crashes with a error
[09:33] <sahin_h> X1398: Aham!
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[09:33] <sahin_h> X1398: How did you the install?
[09:33] <X1398> apt
[09:33] <Tonren> When I hit Ctrl + L to refetch all feeds in Akregator, I can see the icons dim and brighten as it checks them, but it doesn't update them.  There are new articles that Akregator doesn't add.  What's going on?
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[09:34] <sahin_h> X1398: Is there a .bzf directory in your home dir?
[09:34] <X1398> sahin_h: no
[09:35] <X1398> sahin_h: but in /usr/game/bzflag (runable programm)
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[09:36] <sahin_h> X1398: Is there any error messages, or just simply crash?
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[09:37] <X1398> how to send it to u
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[09:38] <X1398> sahin_h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37724/
[09:38] <sahin_h> X1398: I'm going to check...
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[09:39] <sahin_h> X1398: What kind of video crad do you have?
[09:39] <X1398> 8800gtx with the nvidia driver
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[09:40] <X1398> but all other opengl games run(netPanzer/Trigger...)
[09:40] <sahin_h> X1398: Impressive one! ;-) Is the restricted nvidia driver installed?
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[09:41] <X1398> sahin_h: the nvidia driver from the nvidia page xD
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[09:41] <poison--> havin some issues with java here
[09:41] <sahin_h> X1398: I'm going to install bzflag to check have I any issue...
[09:42] <X1398> sahin_h: thx
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[09:43] <Fyodor> hello, I'm using apache tomcat, and I'm having problems with the Java Virtual Machine (is too small).  Have someone got any idea about a command for creating a JVM with more space of memory?
[09:43] <X1398> sahin_h: sudo aptitude install bzflag
[09:43] <sahin_h> X1398: Thanks! I've did it already. ;-)
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[09:44] <sahin_h> X1398: I've bad news for you. It works for me.
[09:44] <Fyodor> I've been reading something like "java -Xmx512m PATH", but the path is a .jar for the tomcat, and I really don't know about it
[09:44] <X1398> sahin_h: -.-
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[09:45] <X1398> u do bzflag in console? and it runs
[09:45] <sahin_h> X1398: And it was installed in the start menu... (start > debian > games > arcade > bzflag )
[09:46] <X1398> ive got no debian sektion may be ive to restart x or smth
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[09:46] <sahin_h> X1398: No I didn't try it that way...
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[09:46] <sahin_h> X1398: If you wait for a seconds I'm going to try.
[09:46] <Fyodor> If someone know about that, please tell me, because I'm looking for a solution but I didn't find anything, thanks
[09:47] <sahin_h> X1398: Yep, /usr/games/bzflag works too.
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[09:48] <X1398> sahin_h: i get these errors -.- may be i ve to kill kubuntu and install etch
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[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Or maybe you have to install the driver from the repository instead of the nvidia site...
[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Just an idea.
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[09:49] <X1398> the repos driver is buggy
[09:49] <sahin_h> X1398: Ok, I accept it if you have bad experiences...
[09:50] <X1398> sahin_h: not usable for the 8800's
[09:50] <sahin_h> X1398: By the yaw are you tested your card with hteh nvidia-glx-new package?
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[09:50] <X1398> sahin_h: no?howto?
[09:51] <sahin_h> X1398: nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver
[09:51] <sahin_h> X1398: So try to install nvidia-glx-new instead of nvidia-glx
[09:51] <X1398> sahin_h: ill try
[09:52] <sahin_h> X1398: I've a 7600GT only , however it works better with this driver.
[09:52] <tikipreston> KDE is giving me problems. Under style in Appearance and Themes in the Control Center, I cannot "configure" the widget style. Any settings I change in the dialog brought up by the Configure button do not change.
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[09:52] <X1398> sahin_h: i still cant chance my screen res to my 1650x1050 natural res
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: I understand your feelings, this is the reason why I have to use the latest fglrx ATI driver on my notebook.
[09:54] <X1398> sahin_h: do i have to reeboot?
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: Yes, definitly.
[09:54] <X1398> sahin_h: ok cu in a few min maybe
[09:54] <sahin_h> X1398: Because the old nvidia.ko kernel modul still in the memory. I guess..
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[09:56] <Lega> 'ello.
[09:57] <tikipreston> KDE is giving me problems. Under style in Appearance and Themes in the Control Center, I cannot "configure" the widget style. Any settings I change in the dialog brought up by the Configure button do not change.
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[09:58] <BluesKaj> tikipreston, ppl sometimes forget to click "save" after making changes ...I know it's obvious but I had to mention it.
[09:59] <genii> You may need also sometimes f5 key to refresh desktop for instance
[09:59] <X1398> sahin_h: back doesnt work games dont strat up(even those which worked befor)
[09:59] <tikipreston> I appply the changes, go back to the configure dialog and their back to default. My changes also don't show up in the preview.
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[10:00] <tikipreston> sometimes it will tell me that the window decorator has crashed, but not very often.
[10:01] <tikipreston> I think it's not saving the changes.
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[10:01] <tikipreston> is there a config file I can manually edit to enable progress bar animation?
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[10:02] <rywa-shywa> give your computer time for a rest.. let him pause some hours and reboot him .. would be my suggestion ^^
[10:02] <sahin_h> X1398: Sorry, I have no other idea.
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[10:03] <yetis> dncem
[10:04] <sahin_h> X1398: Do you have a 64bit version of kubuntu?
[10:04] <tikipreston> 32 bit
[10:04] <BluesKaj> yes tikipreston, in kcontrol when one saves a change a progress bar pops up
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[10:06] <tikipreston> what?
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[10:07] <tikipreston> I'm trying to turn on the "Animate Progress Bar" option for plastik. None of the other changes I make seem to take effect either. (Not even in the preview)
[10:07] <BluesKaj> tikipreston, when one saves a change  in kcontrol a progress bar pops up showing that the change is being made.
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[10:08] <tikipreston> that doesn't show up
[10:09] <BluesKaj> ok, something is preventing changes ...  sudo dpkg --configure -a
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[10:10] <elliott__> Can linux not handle multiple network connections at the same time?
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[10:11] <Tm_T> elliott__: can
[10:12] <elliott__> I've been having a lot of problems with it
[10:12] <elliott__> only ath0 or eth0 ever get an IP address, never both
[10:13] <elliott__> I need both because I'm doing a lot of tests with disabling/enabling the wireless connection through code, but I need to access the internet at the same time
[10:13] <elliott__> and I've really had to fight with it
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[10:14] <elliott__> nobody?
[10:14] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[10:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:15] <prudvi> xlib connection to :o.o refused
[10:15] <prudvi> this is what i get when try to install something
[10:16] <prudvi> and now when i was trying to use wine to open utorrent this error came
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[10:16] <prudvi> it also says make shure that  your x server is runniing
[10:17] <prudvi> and %Display is set correctly
[10:17] <esper] > can anyone help me with a xorg issue?
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[10:19] <jthomas> !samba
[10:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
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[10:19] <tikipreston> sudo dpkg --configure -a didn't do anything
[10:20] <Lega> Does anyone want to help me figure out why Kubuntu isn't automatically detecting my ethernet card?
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[10:20] <tikipreston> what kind of card is it
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[10:21] <Lega> Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller
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[10:21] <Lega> At least, that is what lspci brings up. Because I don't actually know what kind of card it i.
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[10:21] <Lega> *is
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[10:22] <Lega> Because support for Averatec laptops is horrid. :\
[10:22] <tikipreston> I've never worked with an ethernet card that's not built into the mobo
[10:22] <Mr_Pan> any ideaas for a FTP server with GUI ?
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[10:23] <Lega> Hmm. Oh well, I'll work on it. ^^
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[10:23] <esper] > any reason why x will load as root but not as a user?
[10:23] <esper] > user gives this wierd ass font error
[10:23] <esper] > but root loads kde just fine
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[10:24] <jthomas> esper] : I too have had that, where X won't start for a normal user.  No idea why, or what happened, or how i fixed it... sorry
[10:25] <esper] > jthomas: damn, just my luck
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[10:25] <jthomas> yep
[10:25] <esper] > jthomas: i figure i'll get rid of the last package (font pckage) i installed and try again
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[10:25] <esper] > brb testing
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[10:28] <Lega> !ethernet
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Lega> !lan
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Lega> Hmm...
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[10:28] <elliott__> The wireless documentation didn't help
[10:29] <elliott__> I can configure it correctly, but if I connect one, it isconnects the other
[10:29] <elliott__> disconnects
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[10:30] <poison--> <elliott__> with some specs, u really have to do dat
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[10:30] <poison--> eth0 down so wlan0 works
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[10:34] <alesan> hi
[10:34] <alesan> is gpg installed by default on kubuntu?
[10:34] <prudvi> hi
[10:34] <gnomefreak> alesan: is there  a folder ~/.gnupg
[10:34] <prudvi> how to start the x server
[10:34] <gnomefreak> or something of the sort
[10:34] <alesan> gnomefreak: ?? me?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> alesan: yes you want to know if its installed
[10:35] <alesan> no
[10:35] <gnomefreak> that is one way of knowing
[10:35] <alesan> I asked if gpg is installed by default on kubuntu
[10:35] <alesan> I don't know if I installed it or if it is by default
[10:35] <gnomefreak> alesan: i do think they were going to add it but if they did i havent heard yet
[10:35] <alesan> what is the exact name of the package anyway?
[10:35] <prudvi> gnomefreak how to start x server on kubuntu
[10:35] <gnomefreak> when using gpg it will create a ~/.gnupg dir
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[10:36] <gnomefreak> prudvi: startx works most of time or install kdm and it should load at start up
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[10:36] <prudvi> ok
[10:37] <gnomefreak> prudvi: if not im gonna need alot more to go on
[10:37] <jthomas> lol
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[10:39] <XboxUser> Can anyone help me install TightVNC?
[10:40] <XboxUser> i've got tightvnc-1.3.9_unixsrc.tar.gz but dunno how to install it manually?
[10:41] <jthomas> XboxUser: you should try to install software in Adept
[10:41] <jthomas> that file that you have is the source code; it can get a bit complex
[10:41] <XboxUser> I did try adept but it didn't work
[10:41] <jthomas> Adept is a Package Manager which can install a ton of Free software (and some non-Free)
[10:41] <jthomas> what was the issue?
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[10:42] <XboxUser> oh wait, no i haven't
[10:42] <XboxUser> whats adept?
[10:42] <jthomas> Adept Package Manager.
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[10:42] <jthomas> or Synaptic, or Kynaptic, or a few others... basically they get all the pieces of a software and install it for you, real slick like.
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[10:43] <XboxUser> got a download link for one of them?
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[10:43] <jthomas> no.  Go to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager
[10:43] <jthomas> it'll ask for your password
[10:44] <XboxUser> there is no adept manager
[10:44] <XboxUser> nvm there is :)
[10:44] <Sanne> XboxUser: if you have some time later, you might also want to have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[10:44] <jthomas> once in Adept, go to Adept menu -> Manager Repositories
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[10:44] <jthomas> and put a Checkmark in all of the available ones.
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[10:44] <jthomas> Then Save/Close and (back in regular Adept) click Reload.
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[10:45] <jthomas> Then search for VNC or whatever and rightclick-> install, then at the top select Install
[10:45] <jthomas> sorry, at the top (once all done almost) click Apply Changes
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[10:46] <jthomas> and its not Reload either, its 'Fetch Updates'
[10:47] <XboxUser> it says (Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.65.)
[10:47] <XboxUser> installed
[10:47] <XboxUser> wtf, i can't see it anywhere
[10:47] <XboxUser> how do i uninstall it?
[10:48] <jthomas> right-click _> remove or something
[10:48] <jthomas> then Apply Changes
[10:48] <jthomas> then search again and install the Ubuntu one (not from RPM)
[10:49] <Lega> Anybody particularly want to help me find out why my ethernet card isn't showing up, and yet for some reason lspci detects it correctly?
[10:49] <jthomas> Lega can you do 'sudo dhclient eth1' or something?
[10:49] <jthomas> or eth0 or eth2...
[10:50] <Lega> All I have is lo and ra1.
[10:50] <jthomas> that'll give it a DHCP address
[10:50] <jthomas> yes even if not listed, try it
[10:50] <Lega> Alright.
[10:50] <jthomas> or just 'sudo dhclient'
[10:51] <Lega> What should I be looking for?
[10:51] <Lega> That did something with my wireless card (ra1).
[10:51] <jthomas> "ethX bound to address 192.168.1.5" or something
[10:51] <jthomas> ok then specify 'sudo dhclient eth0'
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[10:52] <Lega> I just did: "Bind socket to interface: No such device"
[10:52] <XboxUser> I uninstalled tightvnc and now when i click request install, nothing happens
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[10:52] <jthomas> does it say Install" in the Requested column?
[10:52] <XboxUser> nope
[10:52] <jthomas> ok then try to reload/fetch updates
[10:53] <Lega> I have no idea why it isn't automatically there... because when I lspci it shows: Ethernet controller: Agere Systems ET-131x PCI-E Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
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[10:54] <XboxUser> jthomas it still says (Converted from a rpm package by alien version 8.65.) though, whatever that means
[10:54] <jthomas> is it still listed as installed, XboxUser?
[10:54] <XboxUser> nope
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[10:55] <jthomas> in Linux there are source files (like the tar.gz that you had), there are Deb files (for Debian and Ubuntu), and there are RPMs (mostly for RedHat and SuSE).  They're all different, slightly (or majorly).  So to install a RPM on Ubuntu, it needs to be converted with a program named 'Alien'
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[10:56] <jthomas> so somehow we need to get the RPM outta the system and have it install the proper Deb file
[10:56] <XboxUser> hmm, anyone know how to do that?
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[10:57] <jthomas> can you right-click and select Purge, then Apply?
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[10:58] <XboxUser> nope, don't let me select purge
[10:58] <gianluca> join/ #ubuntu-it
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[10:59] <brad_> hey
[10:59] <brad_> does anyone here know a lot about wireless networking?
[10:59] <jthomas> XboxUser: can you go to a command line for me?
[10:59] <XboxUser> sure
[10:59] <XboxUser> what command though?
[10:59] <jthomas> when there let me know ;)
[10:59] <XboxUser> im there :)
[11:00] <jthomas> Konsole or XTerm or whichever
[11:00] <jthomas> ok
[11:00] <XboxUser> konsole
[11:00] <XboxUser> im in that one
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[11:00] <tzanger> good afternoon...  has anyone run across youtube locking up the konqueror window?
[11:00] <tzanger> google videos, kaffeine... these work
[11:00] <tzanger> youtube though seems to always screw it up
[11:00] <jthomas> type 'sudo apt-get install tightvncviewer'
[11:00] <tzanger> I get the first few seconds, then a hard lock
[11:01] <jthomas> tzanger: i get lockups when leaving but never when playing...
[11:01] <tzanger> have to use xkill or wait for kde to figureout the app isn't responding and ask if I want to hang it
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[11:01] <jthomas> type 'sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer' (I had a typo)
[11:01] <tzanger> my gut instinct is that it's video card/x driver related, as the thinkpad I was using before did not have the problem
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[11:01] <tzanger> it was using vesa driver, this pc is using i960
[11:02] <jthomas> eh, i don't know
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[11:03] <deviance> Wow, installing Miro installs alot of other stuff :(
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[11:03] <deviance> !miro
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <jthomas> XboxUser: I was blocked from typing in that window :(
[11:03] <jthomas> !democracy
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <jthomas> !democracyplayer
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracyplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <deviance> :P
[11:03] <jthomas> bah
[11:04] <deviance> Its done now :D
[11:04] <jthomas> XboxUser: I was blocked from typing in that window :(  XboxUser you'll have to close Adept first
[11:04] <phanto1> kde4 beta instalation tutorial please
[11:05] <XboxUser> ah ok
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[11:05] <jthomas> then 'sudo apt-get install xtightvncviewer'
[11:05] <Daisuke_Ido> jthomas: register your nick :)
[11:05] <jthomas> i know, i know
[11:06] <jthomas> i like the freedom ;)
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[11:06] <XboxUser> Ok I think it installed it, where do I find it though?
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[11:07] <jthomas> it should be in KMenu, but at a command line you can launch it also with 'xtightvncviewer' or at the [Alt] [F2]  (run) prompt
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[11:08] <jthomas> XboxUser: almost all software in Linux is installed via a Package Manager like Adept; there are other ways but they get more complex each one...
[11:08] <XboxUser> ah ok that works , i need the server though :(
[11:08] <jussi01> phanto1: see the topic
[11:08] <jthomas> ok then -- 'sudo apt-get install tightvncserver' (no X in this name)
[11:08] <jthomas> or try it in Adept
[11:08] <jon_> would anyone possibly know why my computer gives me a black screen half the time i boot it? ill restart it and its fine again.
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[11:09] <jussi01> jthomas: whats wrong with krdc?
[11:10] <jthomas> i wasn't asked about it ;)
[11:10] <XboxUser> hmm, it installed the server but how do I open it/ configure it?
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[11:10] <jussi01> heh
[11:11] <deviance> Whens the new Open Office entering the Repos?
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[11:12] <jthomas> XboxUser: to start VNC server, at the command line type: tightvncserver
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> deviance: 2.3?
[11:12] <jthomas> deviance: a while i think, its not even out yet is it??
[11:12] <deviance> Yeah Release today
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> may already be available through feisty backports
[11:12] <jthomas> i thought it was a year away still or some BS
[11:12] <jthomas> oh!
[11:12] <deviance> No no
[11:12] <jthomas> wow i thought NEXT september!
[11:12] <jthomas> lol
[11:12] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been in gutsy's repos for at least a week or two
[11:12] <deviance> :P
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[11:13] <XboxUser> jthomas I did that but it just says some lines, nothing to let me configure it or anything
[11:13] <deviance> Not in feistys yet
[11:13] <jthomas> XboxUser: it should ask for passwords so that you can later connect
[11:13] <Lega> YES!
[11:13] <Lega> Totally got my card installed.
[11:13] <jthomas> Lega: nice!  what it was?
[11:13] <XboxUser> yeah it did but what about everything else like ports etc, is it not like ultravnc on windows?
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[11:14] <Lega> It turns out the card is detected, but unsupported. So I had to download the et131x drivers from sourceforge, compile them, and then insert them into modules.
[11:14] <Lega> At least, I think that is what I did.
[11:14] <jhutchins> XboxUser: It's not like windows.
[11:15] <Lega> http://linuxinside.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html <-- search for et131x and you'll see what I did.
[11:15] <XboxUser> damn, how do I do everything then like ports and stuff?
[11:15] <jthomas> sooorta... you can do that i text file.  At a command line type (and read) 'man tightvncserver' (or do some web searches)
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[11:16] <Lega> Testing something real quick...
[11:16] <jhutchins> XboxUser: Suggest you read the manpage.
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[11:18] <jhutchins> XboxUser: Seriously, if you want the standard defaults, just run it, but if you need to customize it then you should read up.
[11:19] <Lega> Am I still connected?
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[11:20] <Lega> Grargh...
[11:20] <Lega> Well, I suppose I haven't gotten it completely figured out yet.
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[11:22] <jokijo> hey
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[11:24] <Lega> jthomas, might you have any idea why (after installing the drivers and eth0 is now showing up) that if i disable wireless, and yet am connected wired with my ethernet card to the router, why my internet connection fails?
[11:24] <Lega> My router is connected to a switch and my computer is connected to that switch.
[11:24] <jthomas> does it have an IP?
[11:25] <jthomas> an IP address?
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i would like, if i may, to call for a moment of silence on behalf of the family of James Oliver Rigney Jr, aka Robert Jordan
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[11:26] <hydrogen> !offtopic
[11:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:27] <hydrogen> daed guys are not on topic for this channel
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> repect is never offtopic.
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[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> but thank you for the respect you showed for a COUPLE seconds before throwing that out there.
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[11:27] <hydrogen> only long enough to read what you said and type a response.
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and you continue to keep this offtopic, so i would direct you to #kubuntu-offtopic, where you can continue this discussion.
[11:28] <tsb> If I go to "Keyboard Layout", "Layout Variant" is empty. And under avaliable layouts, all seem to be qwerty. I'd like to try dvorak
[11:28] <Daisuke_Ido> without me, of course
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[11:28] <hydrogen> I'll pass.
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[11:29] <LegatoB> Argh, stupid Ubuntu network again.
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[11:29] <LegatoB> Anyway, yeah, this is Lega.
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[11:30] <LegatoB> jthomas- I did the sudo dhclient eth0 command, and it gave the card an ipaddress of 192.168.0.3
[11:30] <LegatoB> Which is a valid IP in reference to the way my router gives out IPs. My other wireless hub gives out 192.168.1.x IP addresses.
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[11:31] <jhutchins> LegatoB: So what's the problem?
[11:32] <LegatoB> Well, let me check something... the problem might have fixed itself.
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[11:33] <junkeR> hello, where can I get help when running SimCity 2000 under wine using Kubuntu?
[11:33] <LegatoB> Hey... it is fixed, I think. :D
[11:33] <LegatoB> I just unchecked my wireless card in Network, and I still have internet.
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> junkeR: winehq.org
[11:33] <LegatoB> So that means I'm getting internet through the cable.
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[11:34] <LegatoB> Awesome. :D
[11:34] <jthomas> good!
[11:34] <jthomas> sorry i was gone for a wile
[11:35] <LegatoB> 'tis alright, thanks for your help. ^^
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[11:35] <junkeR> thanks Daisuke_Ido
[11:35] <jthomas> happy to see its working!  pass the help along some time ;)
[11:36] <LegatoB> Most definitely.
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[11:37] <XboxUser> whats the command to uninstall tightvnc viewer/server? don't work
[11:38] <poison--> tried adept?
[11:38] <jussi01> sudo apt-get remove tightvncserver xtightvncviewer
[11:38] <jthomas> 'sudo apt-get remoev xtightvncviewer tightvncserver'
[11:39] <jthomas> um yeah XboxUser i have typos, look at jussi01
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[11:39] <Lega> Does what have an IP address?
[11:39] <poison--> lmao
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[11:40] <poison--> ??
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[11:40] <poison--> me so horny
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[11:40] <JimmyDee> what an incredibly geeky thing to say in a place like this
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[11:41] <JimmyDee> anyone use mwavem?
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[11:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what is it?
[11:42] <JimmyDee> its the driver for the mwave hybrid soundcard / modem
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[11:43] <JimmyDee> which of course does not work on my lapto;p
[11:43] <poison--> what does lspci show?
[11:44] <JimmyDee> checking
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[11:44] <lozzy> Hi. I'm trying to install a backports package for HAL (I'm having issues with my DVD+RW, I've read a bug report stating it's fixed in this release). When running aptitude on the pkg I get: 'E: Unknown pattern type: f'. I have no experience with .deb distros whatsoever. What does this error mean?
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[11:45] <Lega> *sigh*
[11:45] <JimmyDee> 00:05.0 Multimedia Controller: IBM3780DSP [Mwave}] 
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[11:46] <Lega> My network card is so screwy.
[11:46] <JimmyDee> hello again lega
[11:46] <Lega> Hello JimmyDee.
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[11:47] <Lega> Alright: When I disable my wireless card, I can't surf the web, connect to IRC, connect to AIM/Yahoo/MSN or anything, but my torrents still continue to go on.
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[11:47] <Lega> And I show activity on my eth0 connection through one of my Karamba widgets...
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[11:48] <coreymon77> Lega: thats wierd
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[11:48] <poison--> really weird
[11:48] <Lega> coreymon77: I know, I just can't figure it out. :E
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[11:48] <coreymon77> Lega: w/e, not that big a deal
[11:48] <poison--> seems like a dns issue
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[11:49] <poison--> <JimmyDee>, i ment modem brand and model
[11:49] <Lega> coreymon77: Well, it kind of is an issue... because I'd like to use this laptop at other people's houses, and I'd like to connect through wired there.
[11:49] <coreymon77> Lega: shut off the torrents then
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[11:50] <Lega> Hmm, I'll try that... brb.
[11:50] <JimmyDee> should work wired even with the network card on
[11:50] <coreymon77> ya, wired doesnt really matter
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[11:50] <JimmyDee> mine does
[11:50] <poison--> had dat issue with knoppix
[11:51] <JimmyDee> poison: ibm thinkpad 770 mwave modem
[11:51] <poison--> wireless worked fine, but wired couldnt even get ip from dhcp
[11:51] <JimmyDee> modem query timed out
[11:51] <poison--> k, just a sec
[11:51] <JimmyDee> kppp
[11:52] <poison--> ttySL0?
[11:54] <Lega> And I'm back. :p
[11:54] <poison--> JimmyDee, did u check tuxmobil.com?
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[11:54] <tinin> Hi, I get a pop up window all the time saying: It was not possible to find the MIME type application/octet-stream. How could I fix this, please?
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[11:55] <Lega> Okay, so, torrents work, but nothing else does, when my wireless card is disabled.
[11:56] <poison--> http://tuxmobil.org/ibm.html
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[11:56] <poison--> Lega, tried wlan down, eth0 up?
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[11:58] <Lega> Let me try it.
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[12:01] <poison--> k, time to go home
[12:01] <poison--> l8rm guys
[12:01] <VirtualPC> hi
[12:01] <VirtualPC> Hello room
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[12:02] <VirtualPC> hello zoe
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[12:03] <LegatoB> And Ubuntu IRC hates my nickname, apparently.
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[12:04] <LegatoB> poison-- torrents work, but nothing else does.
[12:04] <LegatoB> With the ra1 (my wireless) down and eth0 up. :\
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[12:05] <LegatoB> Oddly enough, now I'm showing all my download/upload going through my eth0, and only 1kb of download going through wireless.
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[12:10] <Lega> I hate Linux. >.<
[12:10] <JimmyDee> hey now, we'll make you use vist
[12:10] <JimmyDee> a
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[12:10] <Lega> No, anything but that!
[12:10] <jhutchins> LegatoB: Probably didn't reset your routing table.
[12:10] <Lega> I'm sorry!
[12:11] <Lega> How might I do that, jhutchins?
[12:11] <jhutchins> LegatoB: Does /etc/init.d/network restart bring the wireless back up?
[12:11] <JimmyDee> f o r m a _
[12:11] <tazgodx> whats hte terminal command to veiw installed wireless cards?
[12:11] <Lega> The wireless isn't down right now.
[12:11] <JimmyDee> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <jhutchins> tazgodx: ifconfig, iwconfig, iwlist, depending on what you want to see.
[12:12] <jhutchins> Lega: Type 'sudo root' and ponder the results.
[12:13] <Lega> Command not found is not really something to ponder.
[12:13] <JimmyDee> we had a technician nicknamed 404 in our shop
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[12:13] <jhutchins> Lega: Sorry, brainfart, it's route.
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[12:14] <Lega> XD
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[12:15] <Lega> jhutchins: Okay... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37738/
[12:16] <JimmyDee> he's linuxed his router, good man
[12:16] <Lega> What now?
[12:16] <JimmyDee> youve installed dd-wrt on your router
[12:16] <JimmyDee> good job
[12:16] <Lega> Oh, that was only on one of them.
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[12:16] <Lega> That isn't the main router.
[12:17] <Lega> That dd-wrt router connects to a switch, which my main router connects to.
[12:17] <Lega> the 192.168.0.1 router is the one that supplies my internet.
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[12:17] <JimmyDee> linux my toaster!
[12:18] <Lega> Maybe I should install dd-wrt on my main router... Hmm.
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[12:18] <Lega> Nah, one thing at a time.
[12:18] <ScorpKing> Lega: there is a channel for dd-wrt and related wireless issues on irc.jawug.za.net - #wnet
[12:19] <JimmyDee> thats not his issue at this point scorp
[12:19] <Lega> Well, that isn't what is giving me problems... But thanks, I'll check that later.
[12:19] <lozzy> Is there anyone here who can help me with an Audio CD issue with Kubuntu?
[12:19] <ScorpKing> :)
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[12:19] <JimmyDee> its that hippy longhair music you've been listening to lozzy
[12:19] <lozzy> lol.
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[12:19] <lozzy> I would be listening to it if KDE would load the cd.
[12:19] <Lega> So, does anyone have any idea what my problem could be? I'm still at a loss- the fact that I was able to install my network card is amazing in and of itself.
[12:20] <JimmyDee> will the miracles never cease
[12:20] <JimmyDee> his network card works even when its off
[12:20] <JimmyDee> and he's bellyachin
[12:20] <Lega> I heard angels when I did it- I swear.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> thats the lsd from 1986 man, its back
[12:21] <Lega> Man, I wasn't even alive in 1986.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> I was, it was a good year
[12:21] <Lega> So I've heard.
[12:21] <JimmyDee> its me birthday
[12:21] <JimmyDee> 38 of em
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[12:22] <Lega> It is my birthday tomorrow.
[12:22] <lozzy> holy cow, I fixed it. lol
[12:22] <Lega> 18 of em.
[12:22] <lozzy> It's arts, the evil thing.
[12:22] <Lega> Arts is a horrible, horrible thing.
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[12:22] <JimmyDee> we've been there done that
[12:22] <Lega> Anyway... no ideas?
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[12:23] <JimmyDee> thankie
[12:23] <ScorpKing> Lega: what's the problem. just got here.
[12:23] <Lega> Oh.
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[12:23] <lozzy> happy birthday.
[12:23] <emilsedgh> Happy Birthday to you Lega and JimmyDee
[12:23] <Lega> ^_^
[12:23] <thomas__> what http server should I install on my linux machine?
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[12:24] <JimmyDee> Wanted: Birthday Gift = Girl who uses Ubuntu
[12:24] <JimmyDee> a p a c h e
[12:24] <JimmyDee> 2
[12:24] <thomas__> alright
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[12:25] <Lega> ScorpKing: I just installed my ethernet card. So I have ra1 (wireless) and eth0 (ethernet). Whenever I sudo ifconfig ra1 down, disabling the wireless, I cannot: a)surf the web b)connect to IRC/AIM/Yahoo/MSN/* c) do anything internet related. HOWEVER, my torrents still download (showing that I'm connected to the internet somehow), and one of my Karamba widgets shows that Eth0 is downloading/uploading.
[12:26] <JimmyDee> is it plugged in?
[12:26] <Lega> JimmyDee: Strangely, that is what I wanted for my birthday too. :[ Or at least one who knows how to fandangle a computer.
[12:26] <Lega> JimmyDee: ... Yes. Yes it is.
[12:26] <JimmyDee> I got a linux using girlfriend, I made her use it
[12:27] <JimmyDee> but she's redhat....boooo
[12:27] <Lega> Haha. XD
[12:27] <thomas__> what would be the best package for apache2?
[12:27] <JimmyDee> ummm apache2
[12:27] <Lega> ScorpKing: Any idea as to what is up?
[12:27] <thomas__> cause theres apache2 ssl
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[12:27] <thomas__> perl
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[12:27] <ScorpKing> Lega: if you get dns from ra1 and eth0 the dns from the last one that you connect will be used. after disableing ra1 just ifup and ifdown eth0 to get new dns from it. that works for me.
[12:27] <JimmyDee> if you want ssl install ssl
[12:28] <Lega> Uno momento.
[12:28] <thomas__> JimmyDee: i don't know if I want it though :S?? do i?
[12:28] <JimmyDee> do you want https://
[12:28] <JimmyDee> ?
[12:28] <thomas__> https?
[12:28] <JimmyDee> secure transactions
[12:28] <thomas__> hmm i don't know, but I want a secure webserver..........
[12:29] <JimmyDee> k, do you have a certificate?
[12:29] <thomas__> for what
[12:29] <JimmyDee> from verisign or other such agency?
[12:29] <thomas__> nope
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[12:30] <JimmyDee> just install apache2
[12:30] <thomas__> okie dokie
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[12:30] <JimmyDee> I swear I just saw his name as PhishFart
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[12:33] <jokijo> hello?
[12:33] <JimmyDee> hell
[12:33] <JimmyDee> o
[12:34] <jokijo> after i rebooted my desktop resolution changed
[12:34] <ScorpKing> Lega: any news?
[12:35] <jokijo> now its not even giving me the option to set it to the screen size it was before
[12:35] <jokijo> any ideas?
[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee:
[12:36] <JimmyDee> yes?
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[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee: how do I know if it is installed? I know it's installed
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[12:36] <thomas__> JimmyDee: but it doesn't show in programs internet folder?
[12:36] <vas>  terminal
[12:36] <JimmyDee> goto a browser and goto http://localhost
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[12:37] <JimmyDee> or 127.0.0.1
[12:37] <thomas__> JimmyDee: alright but for all other applications, aren't they suppost to show up in k menu? If not then how can u tell what you installe?
[12:37] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:37] <JimmyDee> apache is a server, not an application
[12:38] <JimmyDee> it lives in console land
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[12:38] <thomas__> JimmyDee: cool console land
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[12:38] <jokijo> after a reboot my screen size went crazy
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[12:38] <JimmyDee> define crazy
[12:38] <thomas__> instane
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[12:38] <jokijo> lol
[12:38] <thomas__> insane
[12:39] <dappermuis> anyone who's looking for apache in KMenu shouldn't be setting up apache (imho)
[12:39] <JimmyDee> I'm that, but I dont affect your screen resolution
[12:39] <thomas__> dappermuis: shut your trap no offence
[12:39] <ScorpKing> hi dappermuis. lol