=== Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu+1 === NastyAccident [n=NastyAcc@unaffiliated/nastyaccident] has joined #ubuntu+1 === yipe [n=yipe@12-218-171-233.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === darrend [n=darren@monroe-aaisp.davisononline.org] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:40] hi [01:40] I have an odd problem with gutsy (tribe5 + up-to-the-minute updates).. [01:41] when playing games like bzflag, it works ok once, but after I quit and restart it, my X session dies and drops back to GDM login (xserver resets) [01:41] if I then switch to a different VT, the machine locks completely - hard reboot required [01:41] how do i begin to troubleshoot this? :) [01:42] this behaviour is completely reproducable every time on this machine [01:42] man that's a great game.... === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-68-177.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mks2007 [n=mikesmul@63.76.119.176] has joined #ubuntu+1 === user01 [n=user01@adsl-69-208-84-170.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] hey i've just installed gutsy gibbon tribe 5 hoping to see compiz but it's not working. it comes with tribe 5, right? i have extra effects enabled and my nvidia card drivers working. any ideas? === xero9364 [n=xero9364@c-24-126-30-244.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:44] is it just me or are the gutsy daily cd builds bigger than a standard cd? === Numbeast [n=brian@71-215-99-49.tcsn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Numbeast [n=brian@71-215-99-49.tcsn.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [01:45] arent standard cds 700 mb ? [01:45] this says 709 mb [01:46] user01, ISOs are bigger than the actual CD, I think. [01:46] Once burned, they're less than that. [01:47] or they may be bigger [01:47] xero -- nero wouldnt let me burn it [01:47] user01, then complain to someone higher up. === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] im not complaining just pointing out :) [01:48] ill just download tribe5 and have it download the updates i guess [01:48] user01, that;s what I did. [01:48] Dailys are usually pretty broken anyway. [01:49] i burned it to a dvd but apparently the drive cant read dvd+r === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pygi [n=mario@83-131-93-28.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] gnomefreak: didnt I just do a great thing :-/ === avis [n=avis@pdpc/supporter/student/avis] has joined #ubuntu+1 === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === leperkhanz [n=rhy@ip72-192-137-131.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === leperkhanz [n=rhy@ip72-192-137-131.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert24 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XsteelWolf [n=XsteelWo@cm97.epsilon105.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-115-219-233.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-167-223.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eMaX [n=emax@161.19.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-68-177.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:46] Hi all - I have a external USB drive mounted (manually in fstab - for some reason doesn't automount USB) and I can access it by mount point @ /media/External, but for some reason the drive doesn't show in nautilus as another drive - any thoughts? [02:48] I should clarify - I mean external USB hard drive (not key) === yipe [n=yipe@12-218-171-233.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["I] [02:52] Hi - anyone? I can read and write to it fine and the fstab and mount folder perms set exactly (AFAIK) as an internal HD - it just won't show in nautilus... [02:53] Come on over from #ubuntu and help me out ;) === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:01] Greets, everyone... [03:02] I'm having a rather odd problem with all of my fullscreen games - the mouse will randomly "jump" to the top-left corner of the screen. Any ideas on what might cause this? [03:03] contrast83 does it only do that in games? [03:03] Yep [03:03] do you have desktop effects on? [03:03] Nope [03:03] Are they 3D games? [03:03] Yeah [03:04] Do you have any other 3D programs that you could play around with to see if the same thing is happening? [03:04] Thats the only thing I can think of... [03:04] Hrmm... Just checked in KSysGuard and Compiz/Emerald are running even though I turned them off. BRB === DanaG [n=DanaG@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:06] Hi - anybody on my hard drive question - can't see drive in Nautilus (besides at mount point) but it's there... anyone? === contrast83 [n=mike@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:08] No dice. :-\ [03:08] Why wouldn't nautilus show a drive on the desktop or in Computer if it is mounted? === Tsukasa_ [n=ubuntu@75.111.128.37] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:12] hey how come there is a linux-386 but not a linux-686 === Taos [n=rpickler@c-67-171-141-197.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] C'mon anyone? This seems like something someone should know (as long as that someone isn't me)... [03:15] ShackJack: Did you try manually reloading the media? [03:15] ShackJack: You mean like mounting, unmount, yeah a bunch... === Tenso [n=root@64.241.37.140] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:16] No, like ejecting and re-inserting [03:16] This is an USB hard drive... [03:16] unplugging and re-plugging in...? === d4rkmonkey smacks face with hand [03:16] I've installed a fresh gutsy t5 from cd and tried to set up an ldap client. When I reboot the machine, I get an infinite loop on boot of not being able to connect to my ldap server [03:16] d4rkmonkey: Yep... [03:16] lol [03:17] my suspicion is, the network is not up yet so it just hangs there trying to find an ldap servier [03:17] oh, sorry, didn't introduce myself, I was sent here from the regular ubuntu channel [03:17] anybody run into something like the above? [03:17] What's vexing is the mount folder perms are exactly the same as an internal HD that shows up and I can access the drive by it's mount point/// fstab is also the same - should it be different for a USB drive? === Jordan [n=Jordan@c-71-194-147-166.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:20] My gutsy is not automounting any USB drives it seems ATM... It will mount the camera but not any USB keyys and certainly not this USB drive - any thoughts (though I cna manually mount the drive - just no icon in nautilus) [03:21] ShackJack system>preferences>removeable drives and media [03:21] ? === szf [n=sean@c-24-60-10-245.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:21] d4rkmonkey: Both the relevant option are checked... mount when inserted. etc,,, === szf [n=sean@c-24-60-10-245.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:22] ShackJack ok, I'm not sure what else to do then, does it auto mount when you start up with it plugged in? [03:22] This is maddening... [03:22] d4rkmonkey: No, not when I start it up and not if I plug unplug... [03:22] No idea then... sorry [03:23] d4rkmonkey: I appreciate the help... I just wonder why none of the other 180 ppl supposedly in the room haven't chimed in... (Bitter much ;)) === ShackJack [n=ShackJac@c-65-96-48-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === sandy [n=sandy@60.243.139.175] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:28] anyone help me in installing tapioca in gusty ubuntu [03:30] anyone help me in installing tapioca in gusty ubuntu === benanzo|mobile [n=benanzo@c-71-197-165-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:32] anyone help me in installing tapioca in gusty ubuntu === RxDx [i=Rodrigo@201-74-129-204-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:32] anyone help me in installing tapioca in gusty ubuntu === frostburn [n=archlich@cpe-74-74-196-185.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] !spam | sandy [03:33] sandy: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-) [03:34] err, I mean.. [03:34] !repeat | sandy [03:34] sandy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [03:34] how does gutsy deal with IR devices? I recall a vanilla install not needing a lirc configuration. === arooni-mobile [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] hey folks; i have a contextual menu key on my laptop.... when i push it, nothing happens. how can i fix this (t61 laptop) (gutsy) [03:36] arooni-mobile what do you mean contextual menu key? === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:36] can anyone tell me what is the best player(mp3) like itunes in ubuntu [03:36] Hi Vorian [03:37] sandy I use amarok [03:37] d4rkmonkey, i mean it should be equivalent to pushing the right mouse button [03:37] is it good [03:37] arooni-mobile oh ok, I have no idea then, sorry. [03:37] sandy yes it is, but there are many that you should try, its all about what you prefer [03:37] i need a player like itunes [03:38] sandy iTunes isn't that good. === DanaG [n=DanaG@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Default] [03:38] sandy go into Applications>Add/Remove and just install a bunch of random music players, and just test them out, choose which one you like most. [03:38] but use Amarok === thedonvaughn [n=jayson@unaffiliated/printk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:39] because its the best [03:39] hydrogen lol, some people like other things :P [03:39] blasphemers [03:39] d4rkmonkey: yea.. those people are foolish gnome zealots who do not deserve to be called linux users at al === d4rkmonkey likes Amarok the most [03:39] hydrogen I use gnome... and use Amarok... [03:39] well [03:39] you are only half a zealot then [03:39] a zea? [03:39] or maybe a lot? [03:40] lol [03:40] I prefer gnome, I never really liked KDE [03:42] hello d4rkmonkey [03:42] a bit late :P === billytwowilly [n=chris@CABLE-72-53-22-61.cia.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jensen [n=jhornick@c-71-201-78-234.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-28-242.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-68-177.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:52] how to change the setting of compiz fusion in gusty [03:53] do you know how to change the setting to compiz fusion in gusty === XsteelWolf [n=XsteelWo@cm97.epsilon105.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Viroo [n=orion@62.150.233.83] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:54] sandy sudo apt-get install compiz-config-settings-manager [03:54] sandy that has a bunch of options [03:54] ok === asubedi [n=fjord@c-68-47-197-59.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:00] couldn't find the package === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:00] sandy sorry, its compizconfig-settings-manager [04:01] ya its coming now [04:07] how to add one more work place [04:08] sandy err, how did you end up with only one work place? [04:09] d4rkmonkey> there are only two but i need four [04:09] sandy find which compiz option you have controlling switching between workspaces (like the cube or whatever,) click that, and see if theres an option to change the number of workspaces [04:10] d4rkmonkey> i tried but there are not changing [04:11] sandy then you must have done something wrong, or have some weird bug [04:11] sandy I don't have the time to check right now, I have to finish my english homework === andrea_ [n=andrea@87-196-123-146.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:14] so...now xgl starts in my X [04:14] if I do glxinfo it says "direct rendering=NO" however I have the same glxgear values [04:15] but compiz-fusion doesn't work neither cedega games [04:15] what can I do? [04:15] if I disable xgl it works ok [04:15] install binaries? [04:15] hey folks when i click on an mp3, i think the mplayer plugin starts to load, but it cant playback the file so then the window goes blank......... whats the best solution to play back .mp3s i find when via firefox? [04:20] can someone help me figure out a dpkg error === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pax [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === jensen [n=jhornick@c-71-201-78-234.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === jebblue [n=jebblue@cpe-70-122-29-47.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jebblue [n=jebblue@cpe-70-122-29-47.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === etnoy [n=etnoy@c-5b65e455.05-374-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mosno [n=bmc@c220-237-32-186.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XsteelWolf [n=XsteelWo@cm97.epsilon105.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XsteelWolf [n=XsteelWo@cm97.epsilon105.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1D46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:10] how does gutsy deal with IR devices? I recall a vanilla install not needing a lirc configuration. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === user01 [n=user01@adsl-69-208-84-170.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:26] where are the w32codecs for gutsy? [05:28] mplayer site === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:34] Having a problem. It appears apt is broken === Ax-Ax [n=Snorig@89.160.68.216] has joined #ubuntu+1 === osmosis [n=steven@cpe-76-80-127-252.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === user01 [n=user01@adsl-69-208-84-170.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:39] hmmm i see for edgy and feisty not for gutsy [05:39] for w32codecs [05:40] http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#binary_codecs === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:43] frostburn: oh it doesnt appear to be a deb [05:44] it isn't === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:45] frostburn: there arent win32codecs for vlc? [05:45] frostburn: those say they are only for mplayer [05:46] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278 [05:46] apt is giving me this error, http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=24975-Screenshot-synaptic.png [05:48] Big Brother is Watching... [05:48] war is peace === troy_s [n=troy_s@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tsukasa [n=ubuntu@75.111.128.37] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:52] hey [05:52] anyone around? [05:52] anyone here having dvd playback issues in gutsy? commercial dvds are refusing to mount with libdvdcss2 installed (via script and packages) [05:52] so basically you just have to dump the contents into /usr/lib/win32? [05:53] basically [05:53] Does anyone know how to fix this problem, http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=24975-Screenshot-synaptic.png [05:55] m1ke: post the whole of "sudo apt-get -f install" to pastebin [05:56] http://pastebin.com/m59e34748 <-- can someone take a look at this and help me for a sec? [05:56] dpkg is crashing out [05:57] hey folks.......... i can't play back any .mp4 H.264 content......... every media player under the sun crashes.... ideas? [05:58] stdin, http://pastebin.org/2571 [05:58] hmmm nautilus isnt running [05:59] m1ke: do you have grub installed? [05:59] user01, check top, make sure nothing is eating cpu, or run "safe mode" from the login screen and disable stuff in sessions [05:59] and my hard drives on my desktop have disappeared [05:59] stdin, yes. I am dual booting. [06:00] frostburn: top of . . . === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] m1ke: well reinstall the grub package then, it can't find the update-grub script, and that's in the "grub" package [06:00] user01, $top [06:02] frostburn: oh thats a useful command [06:03] pid 5432 is nautilus . . . taking up 25% of cpu [06:03] frostburn: that seems like a lot [06:04] frostburn: killed it [06:04] there it goes now [06:06] NastyAccident, were you talking about the /. article? === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1DEB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:06] No frostburn accidental conversation bit that carried over into too many channels. [06:06] My sincerest apologies. [06:07] http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/17/0110219&from=rss =P [06:07] In that case yes. [06:07] Good o'l George Orwell. [06:08] wow compiz works a lot better in gutsy [06:08] where do you modify the animations? [06:08] how's gutsy, i tried it a few months back and everything seemed broken [06:09] frostburn: well . . . i cant believe it will be stable by october but it seems to work [06:09] its supposed to be stable by next month right? [06:10] i am trying to compile the latest vlc player from source........... is there anything bad about doing: ./configure; ./make; ./make install (overwriting older existing vlc player)? === troy_s [n=troy_s@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [06:10] frostburn: my icons keep disappearing off my desktop [06:11] arooni-mobile: you probably want to use checkinstall === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] arooni-mobile, have you done apt-get build-dep package? [06:12] does anyone have a aircard 875u? [06:12] what is trackerd? [06:13] my top says its taking 80% of cpu [06:13] now 89% [06:14] 90.3 [06:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519035 === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:15] oh there is a nice thread on trackerd [06:17] configure: error: Could not find libmad on your system: you may get it from http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/. Alternatively you can use --disable-mad to disable the mad plugin. [06:17] hydrogen, huh? checkinstall dont know about thaat [06:17] frostburn, that is a great command; jutst ran it [06:17] arooni-mobile: it will keep track of what filsa rrre installed [06:17] so that you can uninstall it cleanly [06:17] in the future [06:18] hydrogen, how do i run it [06:18] well my goal is to play back h.264 content............. and i'm at my wits end [06:18] so i thought compiling vlc from source was best? === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [06:22] how do i check to see if my aircard was detected and installed? === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] lspci? === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:24] can do that, or modprobe modulename and then check dmesg [06:27] frostburn: oh cool a howto on my card for gutsy sweeeeet http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/09/14/how-to-use-a-cingular-sierra-wireless-875-card-on-ubuntu-gutsy/ === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.254.136] has joined #ubuntu+1 === raknam [n=rak@c-76-105-7-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:43] Will there be a GUI for AppArmor in Gutsy (like SuSe has)? === nickrud [n=nickrud_@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/nickrud] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:44] i'm having two problems with compiz-fusion: 1) the gnome terminal doesn't show up, it's just a big white box, the same with the sound level image that comes up, and compiz fusion will just close randomly. any suggestions? [06:45] I have an apt error, http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=24975-Screenshot-synaptic.png http://pastebin.org/2571 === nickrud [n=nickrud_@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/nickrud] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:50] m1ke: do you have grub installed? [06:51] Hobbsee, yes I do [06:52] hm [06:53] m1ke: what does ls -la /sbin/update-grub say? [06:53] mike@mi:~$ ls -la /sbin/update-grub [06:53] ls: /sbin/update-grub: No such file or directory [06:54] there's the problem, then. [06:54] did you happen to remove that file? [06:54] well, that script? [06:54] No. I pretty much use GUI for most part. [06:57] m1ke: grab http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/update-grub and move it to /sbin, then run sudo dpkg --configure -a === Hobbsee wonders why no one else has reported that [06:59] does update-grub have a file extension? [06:59] $locate update-grub === user01 [n=user01@adsl-69-208-84-170.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:00] as a request . . . koules package hasnt run for me on thinkpad ever since edgy hopefully it will work on final gutsy release this time === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:00] still crashes === jriley [n=jriley@c-67-168-109-188.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:02] m1ke: no [07:03] Hobbsee, i think I got error again after doing sudo dpkg --configure -a [07:03] same errors as before [07:04] then ls -la /sbin/update-grub [07:04] what does it give you? [07:04] root@mi:/sbin# ls -la /sbin/update-grub [07:04] -rw-r--r-- 1 mike mike 36340 2007-09-17 00:00 /sbin/update-grub [07:05] here is the error, http://pastebin.org/2576 === Lattyware [n=Latty@host86-132-243-203.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === leperkhanz [n=rhy@ip72-192-137-131.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [07:07] There's a bug in launchpad that I'm particularly annoyed with. Is there anything I can do to help with getting the fix from upstream merged? (bug 133425) [07:07] m1ke: copy it to /usr/sbin too? [07:07] that should have worke.d [07:07] bug 133425 [07:07] Launchpad bug 133425 in f-spot "f-spot refuses to import, System.NullReferenceException: " [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133425 [07:08] Hobbsee, copy to there too? [07:08] m1ke: yeah [07:08] ubotu: Yes, that's the one. It's apparently been fixed upstream. [07:09] is it possible to rebuild every ubuntu package with -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -march=i586? :P [07:09] Hobbsee, done, what now? [07:10] m1ke: then try to run the dpkg --configure -a [07:10] or teh apt-get -f install [07:10] does it matter what directory I am in? [07:11] ubotu: Does "fix committed" mean that I should be able to install the fix via apt, or just that it's fixed in source control? [07:11] m1ke: no [07:11] jriley: er, more the latter. ie, it's fixed in a new version, which isnt here yet [07:12] Hobbsee: So, all I do then is wait? And if I'm particularly annoyed, checkinstall my own version in the meantime? [07:13] Hobbsee, I tried both commands and got here. Here is my -f install output. http://pastebin.org/2578 === user01 [n=user01@adsl-69-208-84-170.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:13] how do you add libdvdcss2 on gutsy? === snadge [n=snadge@202.3.36.37] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [07:15] [15:13] good for him, I'm going to go home soon & will test there before I upload [07:15] jriley: ^ [07:15] he's looking for testers - or at least, when he gets home [07:15] Hobbsee: I'd be happy to test it. [07:16] Hobbsee: I've got a good ~500 pictures to import and cull. [07:17] cool [07:17] Hobbsee, so what do you think to fix the problem? === alla [n=alla@soy.cyber.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alla [n=alla@soy.cyber.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:18] seveas doesnt have libdvdcss up yet [07:21] Hobbsee: What's the best way for me to get in touch with ajmitch when he gets home? [07:21] Just hang around here? [07:21] m1ke: i'd run the update-grub manually, then mangle the postinst, i think. [07:21] unsure exactly how [07:31] m1ke: just looked, /sbin/update-grub is not +x, that would be the problem === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:32] chmod update-grub a+x ? [07:33] I think "sudo chmod +x /sbin/update-grub /usr/sbin/update-grub" should do it [07:33] /sbin/update-grub normally calls /usr/sbin/update-grub [07:34] I think the fixed it. No error. Should I reboot now? [07:37] stdin: oh, good point! === Hobbsee hadnt thought of that [07:37] rebooting === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thomax_ [n=thomas@217-148-244-149.happymany.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:40] Systems now appears to be updated. Thanks you Hobbsee and stdin [07:41] :) [07:41] no problem [07:42] Any reason why I didn't have update-grub in the first place? === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:46] This may be totally off topic, but zsnes and nes emulator reboots X when I attempt to run applicaiton [07:46] i was wondering if it is a Gutsy issue [07:48] m1ke: You're using nvidia, and running desktop effects/compiz. Welcome to the non-xgl-using club. [07:49] how did you know that RAOF [07:50] Because bug #130325 is both common, and has a destinctive MO :) [07:50] Launchpad bug 130325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx] 3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130325 [07:58] disabled compiz and problem fix. Emulators now work === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:01] Thank you guys for being so helpfully. Only random thing I think I need to tackles is to get my Xbox 360 wireless controller to work on here. === benanzo|mobile [n=benanzo@c-71-197-165-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zoffix [n=Zoffix@unaffiliated/zoffix] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zoffix [n=Zoffix@unaffiliated/zoffix] has left #ubuntu+1 ["K-Lined"] === holycow [n=start@S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:13] hi guys [08:14] hey whats up with gutsy ... i plug in monitors and x automatically knows their resolution capacities regardless of my settings in xorg? [08:14] this is on a machine with latest intel chipset [08:14] using intel new drivers i mean [08:14] holycow: me too me too! [08:15] is this the new faultless x stuff working or is it an intel driver capability i didn't know about? [08:15] well, i have intel 945... [08:15] new feature [08:15] its an intel feature? [08:15] or that x stuff? [08:15] but i've had alot of problem with it, and im not sure but it's fixed it self.. [08:15] x stuff [08:15] xrandr or something [08:15] aha [08:15] displayconfig-gtk [08:15] oh this is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet [08:15] download displayconfig-gtk [08:16] if it's not default.. [08:16] i must of enabled it by accident [08:16] gui configurator for graphic cards and monitors [08:16] no thats the problem, im sure i've not enabled it. And it still fucked up my system [08:16] my gnome resolution switcher just automatically shows monitors resolution capabilities [08:16] this is beyond amazing [08:16] spent 1+ days trying to figure out [08:16] heh [08:17] now if only windows was this easy [08:17] if it would work, i would be more then happy, but on my machine, if i select the intel driver, it'll kick me back to vesa [08:17] >< [08:17] >_< even [08:17] oh really? [08:17] aha i lucked out then [08:17] it works here [08:17] so i deleted my xorg.conf [08:17] and now it seems like it's the right driver.. [08:18] but again no, because it's slower then before gutsy (i installed feisty) === rpg [n=rpg@59.164.116.60] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:18] hi evry1 === etnoy_ [n=etnoy@c-5b65e455.05-374-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:18] What new features will Gutsy have? [08:18] rpg: alot :) [08:18] oh i have gutsy [08:19] holycow: yeah, im also running gutsy at the moment [08:19] lol, i hav been running since 5.10 and never felt bad about the OS [08:19] my x was COMPLETELY broken after the updated, so i downgraded to feisty wich ruind .. everything (uninstalled ubunut-desktop for some reason) and then upgraded to gutsy and installed ubuntu-desktop [08:20] can we upgrade to gutsy [08:20] now [08:20] downgraded? [08:20] you can't downgrade [08:20] i would say no. [08:20] holycow: sure you can [08:20] apt/dpkg aren't designed for that [08:20] yeah i figured it out the hard way :) [08:20] :) [08:21] holycow: you're supposed to be able to downgrade with aptpinning [08:21] i brought that up with the debian folks long time ago [08:21] the conversation ended up going through the reasons and ended up with 'file system backups are simply more reliable' [08:21] and i guess it would work if i just installed ubuntu-desktop [08:21] Guys I was thinking of building a text only Ubuntu variant, with which Ubuntu distro do you think I should start? [08:21] i think the basic problem is reverse dependency rollback, and having every version of every package ever released available at all times [08:21] ubuntu gutsy [08:22] yeah me too [08:22] it's just to damn hard [08:22] rpg: wtf kind of idea is that? [08:22] uninstall xorg there is your text only ubuntu === assasukasse [n=agostino@host-84-222-169-250.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DB18.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:22] or get your self debian and install only core [08:22] holycow: well some people like CLI more than GUI, like me === instabin|work [n=instabin@c-68-45-153-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:22] anyways im of for clas. holycow hurray for you! :) [08:23] rpg: point being, you are effectively on debian. which means you only haveto install what you want [08:23] why would you make it a 'project' when you can use dpkg to remove everything you don't need? [08:23] infact [08:23] just create some retarded reverse metapackage that uninstalls things according to your preference [08:23] holycow: ok, so apt should do all the work [08:23] call it the rpg metapackage [08:23] ok [08:23] ... [08:23] rpg: i don't mean to sound harsh btw :) [08:23] let me back up [08:24] it sounds like you are misunderstanding a bit what ubuntu/debian is === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:24] how much experience do you have with this stuff? [08:24] since 5.10 [08:24] oh good enough === etnoy__ [n=etnoy@c-5b65e455.05-374-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:24] okay so ubuntu is basically debian, they freeze off of unstable every 6 months as you know [08:24] See I have built an interface using GNU screen [08:24] then they add their own polish or whatever [08:25] but all you need to know is that effectively it is debian [08:25] check http://screenface.66ghz.com [08:25] ONLY [08:25] that it is simply a specific packaging of debian applications [08:25] because its debian, you can uninstall everything down to the bare core with the package manager [08:25] so 'creating your own project' out of this is really not anything worth thinking about [08:25] i think to build a distro which does all common tasks thru Command line [08:25] its just a few apt-get commands [08:26] wtf? [08:26] DEBIAN/UBUNTU DO ALL OF THAT ALREADY [08:26] ? [08:26] 'install gentoo' ;p [08:26] even better [08:26] gentoo is for time suckers :P [08:27] It took me 2hrs 30 mins to compile the kernel [08:27] so? compiling kernel isn't any faster on any other system :P [08:27] too slow cpu ;) [08:27] nah, i was running on VM [08:27] it doesn't take that long on a modern one [08:27] bro you don't need no stinkin distro [08:27] ment to say with distro, ofc ;) [08:28] just remove what you don't want, and create shell scripts to execute what you want [08:28] maybe several dozen minutes [08:28] and package it up [08:28] yea, thanks apt [08:28] :P [08:29] i've never understood why every noob wants to create their own distro [08:29] i told you why i want to [08:29] i wanted to create mine back in the pre sarge days but then mark came along and did exactly what i needed [08:29] it's good practice :p [08:29] you told me some stupid idea that makes no sense [08:29] you didn't tell me why :) [08:29] okay i'm giving you a hard time now for no reason :) [08:29] hehe [08:29] check http://screenface.66ghz.com [08:30] and after you've tried it and failed miserably you'll be happy everafter with some regular distro :P [08:30] i want that to be the default interface [08:30] screenshot isn't terribly interesting [08:30] for that you just need some shell scripting [08:30] i don't understand where 'your distro' comes into the picture [08:30]