[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: sorry to tell you, there's a very slim chance you're goign to get that soudn device4 to work
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> i've tried to help several people with that problem
[12:04] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  it was working fine earlery
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[12:04] <doug_> earlyer*
[12:04] <GuHhH> !pastebin
[12:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:05] <john> Hello, all.  I am looking for help with a problem with wine..
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: try googling the audio device int hat lspci output.
[12:05] <houmala> quit
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> iv'e never had luck getting those sound devices working
[12:05] <houmala> exit
[12:06] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  it was working for a good long 4 months and this aftr noon it just started messing up
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: don't know.. like i said, i've tried to help several people with that soundchip class, and could never get them tow ork
[12:07] <lnx_> what is the command to run pidgin ?
[12:07] <xfreakk> Hey everyone
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> doug_:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/39770
[12:07] <Judgegeo> jrib: You there?
[12:07] <doug_> thanks IndyGunFreak
[12:07] <GuHhH> i need help with bind + ssl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37629/
[12:08] <hacknslash> xfreakk: hi
[12:09] <siloko> i login and the first ten messages are quite messages . . . what i do?
[12:09] <draco> lnx_: You probably still have gaim.
[12:09] <siloko> *quit*
[12:09] <Judgegeo> I need some help regarding connecting to the internet
[12:09] <lnx_> draco , no i have installed now pidgin ( from getdeb )
[12:10] <draco> lnx_:  If it was installed correctly it should show up on your applications menu -> Internet -> Pidgin
[12:10] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  here mind looking at this?
[12:10] <doug_> IndyGunFreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37631/
[12:12] <Judgegeo> I need some help regarding connecting to the internet
[12:12] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: no idea, sorry
[12:12] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  whats the issue?
[12:12] <xfreakk> judgegeo: you are already connected to the internet
[12:12] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  thnks just thought id let u see that too
[12:13] <kkathman> xfreakk:  might mean another computer with ubuntu on it :)
[12:13] <xfreakk> kkathman: ah yes that is very possible
[12:13] <Judgegeo> kkathman: I connect the ethernet port to my ubuntu machine. I have checked settings and they are fine. After about 3 minutes it says you are connected. But Im not.
[12:14] <Judgegeo> kkathman; GAIM wont connect, firefox just retruns server cannot be found
[12:14] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  are you connected to a router or direct to your incoming line?
[12:14] <j2daosh> anyone know of an application that will enlarge and sharpen an image clearly?
[12:14] <Judgegeo> kkathman: I use a cable modem
[12:15] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  ok well does the cable modem go to a router... then to your computer?
[12:15] <j2daosh> i have cs2, but i cant seem to make it magnify well enough to read part of a news article
[12:15] <Judgegeo> kkathman: Cable > Modem > Ethernet to PC
[12:15] <lnx_> draco , i did : sudo dpkg -i pidgin-data_2.1.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb   and i dont find it in internet menu , i use kubuntu
[12:15] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  ok, so do you have any firewall running?
[12:15] <xfreakk> d
[12:16] <Judgegeo> kkathman: No, its a fresh install of 7.04
[12:16] <draco> lnx_ There are two packages you have to install, the data one, looks like you got.... there is also the plain pidgin one.  Watch out when you go download it though, there is already a new version out, don't mix them.
[12:16] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  ok so, have you tried pinging some external address ?
[12:17] <siloko> Judgegeo: can you ping the modem?
[12:17] <Judgegeo> kkathman: I did not try to ping, i attempted to goto varios websites like google
[12:17] <doug_> how do i kill the sound card?
[12:17] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  go to a terminal shell, and ping 64.233.167.99
[12:17] <siloko> Judgegeo: is there an led on the modem indicating a connection?
[12:17] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, what's the best CD burning program for Linux to burn a simple CD .iso ?
[12:18] <Nahob> I have a crticial Ubuntu erro
[12:18] <Judgegeo> kkathman: Well, there was when it was connected.
[12:18] <Nahob> It gets to the loading up screen
[12:18] <Judgegeo> kkathman It only has 1 ethernet so i have to switch between laptop and desktop
[12:18] <Nahob> but then it stops, waits 10 minutes, and goes to this shell konsole.
[12:18] <doug_> DARKGuy,  try k3b
[12:18] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  ohh ok
[12:18] <DARKGuy> doug_: is it better than gnomebaker? :p
[12:19] <kkathman> Judgegeo:  you'll need to check to see if you can ping outside first, if not, then you may need to configure a few things
[12:19] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[12:19] <doug_> DARKGuy,  no idea never used either only heard of k3b
[12:19] <Judgegeo> kkathman: Okay, i'll be back in a tick
[12:19] <xfreakk> Kkathman: maybe he should reset the modem so that it recognizes the other computer
[12:20] <judah> I like k3b moreso than gnomebaker, but that's just me.. :p
[12:20] <dalesomers> Hi all! im new to ubuntu... i have a question that I have not been able to find an answer to on the forms or the net...
[12:20] <DARKGuy> doug_: alright, thanks :p
[12:20] <Nahob> What is is dalesomers
[12:20] <hacknslash> dalesomers: ask away
[12:20] <ice109> hey my main tool bar system tray disspeared
[12:20] <ice109> how do i get it back
[12:21] <Nahob> someone help
[12:21] <Nahob> i start ubuntu
[12:21] <Nahob> and it stops loading
[12:21] <doug_> anyone knwo about soundchips card?
[12:21] <Nahob> then goes to a screen with that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control offline
[12:21] <Nahob> please help
[12:21] <doug_> alsa
[12:21] <dalesomers> well, i have an epson cx5000 printer that im able to print with ...but i need help getting the scanner working.... i do "sudo sane-find-scanner" and it finds it, but xsane does not...
[12:21] <ice109> anyone anyone? main toolbar system tray is gone don't know how to get it back
[12:21] <Nahob> I start ubuntu, it stops loading, then goes to a screen with that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control offline - its in the ash terminal.
[12:21] <doug_> anyone know anything about alsa soundchip cards?
[12:21] <lnx_> draco , yes you are right ai have suceed to install it , i will be able to update it when it will have updates ?
[12:21] <Nahob> I start ubuntu, it stops loading, then goes to a screen with that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control offline - its in the ash terminal.
[12:21] <Nahob> I start ubuntu, it stops loading, then goes to a screen with that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control offline - its in the ash terminal.
[12:22] <xyz> hey guys, my desktop kinda froze up.. can I restart it without restarting my live 7.04 session?
[12:22] <Nahob> Fuck
[12:22] <CoasterMaster> !repeat | Nahob
[12:22] <ubotu> Nahob: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:22] <Nahob> !patience
[12:22] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:22] <dirtyhand> Where can I see the the ubuntu startup log?
[12:22] <dirtyhand> or find it
[12:22] <Nahob> Fucking helpp
[12:22] <PriceChild> Nahob, please watch the language.
[12:23] <ice109> anyone? how do i restart the system tray?
[12:23] <ca-30> hi everyone
[12:23] <BernieMac> Nahob, keep that up and no one will help you
[12:23] <xyz> hey guys, my desktop kinda froze up.. can I restart it without having to restart the whole 7.04 live \session?
[12:23] <Nahob> no one here uses Ubuntu...
[12:23] <CoasterMaster> xyz : CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[12:23] <xyz> Nahob, we all use Ubuntu, we just might not know how to help you
[12:23] <hisaki> hi there, sorry if I'm interrupting something but could someone help me getting my soundcard to work?
[12:23] <xyz> thanks Coaster!
[12:24] <Nahob> hiskai: go to #soundcards
[12:24] <draco> lnx_:  Nope, that's the downside to downloading from getdeb.
[12:24] <Nahob> xyz: restart your computer
[12:24] <[nrx] > ;o
[12:24] <kkathman> Nahob:  what are you talking about
[12:24] <CoasterMaster> xyz, no problem, just a warning that it will instantly kill all programs you have open, so be careful :)
[12:24] <Nahob> I searched everywhere
[12:24] <Scunizi> Anyone know of an audio program like Amorak or Rhythmbox that has the feature allowing a listner to speed up playback by 1.5x or 2x?
[12:24] <Nahob> on thsoe !repeat things.
[12:24] <lnx_> draco , :( pidgin will sometime be in adept ?
[12:24] <Nahob> Nothing
[12:24] <kkathman> obviously not everywhere :)
[12:24] <Judgege1> kkathman: Okay, it seemed to work this time..
[12:25] <kkathman> Judgege1:  great :)
[12:25] <ice109> someone at least acknowledge that they see my cry for help so i don't feel like nahob
[12:25] <doug_> someone want to take a crack at my sound problem if so here is a post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552557
[12:25] <Judgege1> kkathman: Tempermental PC =(
[12:25] <kRush> what's responsible for calling the pppoe connection on startup? I can't find any config/init script
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Nahob: what is the issue?
[12:25] <Nahob> I start ubuntu, it stops loading, then goes to a screen with that says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control offline - its in the ash terminal.
[12:25] <Judgege1> kkathman: Thanks for the help though
[12:25] <kkathman> Judgege1:  it happens :)
[12:25] <ermac0> whats the problem ice109
[12:25] <Scunizi> ice109, you're acknowledged.  However I just logged on so don't know the question.
[12:25] <kkathman> Judgege1:  you're welcome, glad to help :)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Nahob: does it say something like busybox?
[12:25] <ice109> Scunizi my dock has disspeared
[12:26] <ice109> main toolbar system tray w/e
[12:26] <ice109> in xubuntu
[12:26] <ice109> how do i restart it
[12:26] <Scunizi> ice109: which one?
[12:26] <Nahob> BusyBox v.1.1.3
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nahob: thought so
[12:26] <ice109> the toolbars that are the the top and bottom of the screen
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nahob: feisty?
[12:26] <BernieMac> ice109, when you open a window does it say the name of the window at the bottom?
[12:26] <ice109> yes
[12:26] <Nahob> no
[12:26] <Nahob> Debian?
[12:26] <ice109> no in the file manager
[12:26] <Scunizi> ice109, do you still have the one at the bottom?
[12:26] <ice109> no
[12:26] <ice109> scunizi
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nahob: see #debian for debian help
[12:26] <ice109> neither are there
[12:26] <Nahob> no
[12:26] <Nahob> i use Ubuntu
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nahob: what version
[12:27] <Nahob> 3ubuntu3
[12:27] <BernieMac> ice109, you do not have either bar??
[12:27] <lnx_> linux have alternavite to these programs : ventrilo , teamspeak , moorhunt ?
[12:27] <ice109> no berniemac
[12:27] <ice109> what is the name of these bars
[12:27] <gnomefreak> Nahob: thats a package version i need the version of ubuntu
[12:27] <mindframe> does the nvidia nforce 590 sli onboard raid controller work in ubuntu?
[12:27] <ice109> so i can search google about them
[12:27] <Scunizi> ice109 can you point your mouse to the top of the screen and right mouse click? See if there's an option for "Add to Panel"
[12:27] <gnomefreak> Nahob: 6.06 6.10 or 7.04?
[12:27] <BernieMac> ice109, ooo, sorry, I do not know how to help them. I'm not sure what the official name is...
[12:27] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[12:27] <ice109> Scunizi i have no panel
[12:27] <Nahob> heres what i says "BusyBox v1.3.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3-Ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash)
[12:27] <Judgege1> kkathman: Another question. For downloading pidgin, do i seletec fedora core?
[12:27] <Nahob> 6.10 iirc
[12:27] <ice109> the panel is gone
[12:27] <gnomefreak> Nahob: thats the version of ash not ubuntu
[12:28] <dadaaa> ok so ive managed to install my nvidia legacy drivers, but i can stil only get 640-480 resolution
[12:28] <Nahob> its 6.10, what can i type in to make sure
[12:28] <kkathman> Judgege1:  no, please dont :)
[12:28] <spanther> !w32codecs
[12:28] <BernieMac> Scunizi, I believe he needs one of the panels there to use that. That was my initial thought too
[12:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:28] <spanther> oh :(
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Nahob: this is a clean install? like this happens right after you install and boot for first time?
[12:28] <dadaaa> please advise
[12:28] <Judgege1> kkathman: What do i download then?
[12:28] <Nahob> no, gnome, it just recently started happening
[12:28] <Scunizi> ice109: BernieMac I think you're right...
[12:28] <kkathman> Judgege1:  I believe that you'd need to just get the source and compile it or you can install gaim-beta from the repos
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Nahob: kernel update?
[12:28] <Nahob> I restarted with "restart 0"
[12:28] <ice109> fixed
[12:28] <ice109> xfce4-panel
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Nahob: what was the last thing that was installed before it happened
[12:28] <ice109> fixes it
[12:29] <Nahob> Closed "BitchX"
[12:29] <kkathman> Judgege1:  as far as I know, pidgin isnt in the ubuntu repos yet
[12:29] <Judgege1> kkathman: I have GAIM, but i want to update it =)
[12:29] <Scunizi> ice109: you're running xfce4?
[12:29] <BernieMac> dadaaa, I believe if you run gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can change the res choices in there
[12:29] <Nahob> bitchx was the last thing installed
[12:29] <ice109> yes
[12:29] <dadaaa> k thx
[12:29] <ice109> im running xubuntu
[12:29] <kkathman> Judgege1:  I was able to get it for openSUSE, but not for ubuntu
[12:29] <gnomefreak> normally this is caused by a messed up config of kernel, can you boot a different kernel see if it happens
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Nahob: you should have more than 1 kernel in grub
[12:29] <Scunizi> ice109: ok.. glad you fixed it.  Next time make sure we know it's xubuntu.. it can make a diff when answering.
[12:29] <Nahob> "in grub"?
[12:30] <Judgege1> kkathman: So does that mean I need to download source and compile?
[12:30] <eshaase> i've setup my laserjet printer and everything was working fine until i printed a job and i ran out of paper, now my printer doesn't work at all, i've tried rebooting, turning off/on my printer, restarting the printer through the cups web interface, etc. anyone have any idea how to resolve this?
[12:30] <ice109> oh im sorry Scunizi
[12:30] <kkathman> Judgege1:  yep, you can certainly do that
[12:30] <Judgege1> kkathman: Any other options? Any other clients?
[12:30] <Nahob> So what do I do, gnomefreak?
[12:30] <Scunizi> ice109: no problem.. just something to remember for the next time.. :)
[12:30] <kkathman> Judgege1:  for IM ?? kopete (its a kde program)
[12:31] <ermac0> Anewone1
[12:31] <Judgege1> kkathman: I'm using gnome =O
[12:31] <dalesomers> i need a little help if anyone can spare the time... i have an epson cx5000 printer that im able to print with ...but i need help getting the scanner working.... i do "sudo sane-find-scanner" and it finds it, but xsane does not...
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Nahob: when you first turn pc on you see grub menu black screen with alot of white writting will have example  kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (on
[12:31] <spanther> !codecs
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:31] <Scunizi> What do I use to play back a podcast and speed it up by 1.5 or 2x
[12:31] <cdm10> Is there a command I can run as root to remotely log off a user?
[12:31] <Nahob> gnomefreak: yes
[12:31] <kkathman> Judgege1:  the programs are interoperable, but you'd have to install other things...not worth it
[12:32] <davi> Could someone let me know her/his  sources.list
[12:32] <davi> ?
[12:32] <patrick__> hey, can someone point me in the direction of how to change read/write access to an external hard drive so i can write to it
[12:32] <Judgege1> kkathman: SO my best option is to use pidgin?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Nahob: ok look at that screen and see if you have more than 1 version example 2.6.20-15-generic may also have 2.6.20-14-generic
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Nahob: boot to a different kernel version
[12:32] <judah> Scunizi, I don't know, but maybe you can in a program like Ardour or Audacity ?
[12:32] <Scunizi> !permissions | patrick__
[12:32] <ubotu> patrick__: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:32] <Nahob> gnomefreak: all i have is ubuntu
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Nahob: it should boot without a problem than we can work on fixing the issue
[12:32] <Nahob> gnomefreak: thats it
[12:32] <kkathman> Judgege1:  there isnt much difference between gaim-beta and pidgin - I imagine that pidgin will be available in gutsy, so I'd use the gaim-beta for now and then next month upgrade/install pidgin
[12:32] <patrick__> thank you scunizi
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Nahob: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst file to pastebin?
[12:33] <Nahob> gnomefreak: all i have is windows and ubuntu
[12:33] <Judgege1> kkathman: Ah okay thanks. So i just need to open update manager?
[12:33] <Scunizi> judah, thanks.. I think audacity can do it.  I'll look at ardour .. thanks.
[12:33] <Scunizi> patrick__: no problem.
[12:33] <tapsin> Selam
[12:33] <tapsin> turk varmi..
[12:34] <xtc> c.cl
[12:34] <clip> can sb. help me installing ubuntu 64bit with a geforce 8 ? i always get the x window error: EE no graphic device
[12:34] <judah> Scunizi, no prob. good luck! :)
[12:34] <tapsin> hi
[12:34] <tapsin> channel
[12:34] <tapsin> I'M Ubuntu
[12:34] <tapsin> :D:D
[12:34] <tapsin> My linux ubuntu and Network Sharing
[12:34] <tapsin> not sharing help me
[12:34] <bozza> hey
[12:34] <tapsin> Dual Ethernet card.
[12:34] <Scunizi> judah, ardour will probably do it too but I was hoping to find a music manager that had that feature built in... god forbid.. like Window Media Player
[12:34] <BinaryMutant>  is there a plugin for multisync that will sync with GPE?
[12:35] <BernieMac> !enter | tapsin
[12:35] <ubotu> tapsin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:35] <judah> Scunizi, yeah, i know what you mean... heh
[12:35] <Judgege1> kkathman: You can install 119 updates - 180mb. Do i proceed?
[12:36] <bozza> guys how do i get SSL working in Linux
[12:36] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[12:36] <Scunizi> Judgege1: yep..
[12:36] <bozza> opensslCannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:36] <bozza> Cannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:36] <DjViper> bozza: install openssl
[12:36] <Nahob> did you get my pm gnomefreak
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Nahob: that is not what i asked for, please reboot and choose a differnet kernel like the one that says recovery mode or something
[12:36] <bozza> oh ok thanks
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Nahob: yes see above
[12:36] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Just checkin' =)
[12:36] <Nahob> gnomefreak: I don't have a different kernel
[12:36] <Nahob> gnomefreak: only this and XP
[12:37] <Scunizi> Judgege1: i missed the previous stuff.. are you doing a fresh install?
[12:37] <patrick__> should chmod take a long time if the disk has a lot of files?
[12:37] <bozza> hmm weird . when i install openssl i get this msg .. Cannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:37] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Yes
[12:37] <kkathman> Judgege1:  what did you do??
[12:37] <bozza> Cannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:37] <teh_uber> i got this error:  "You have 1 broken package on your system, please use 'Broken' filter to fix the problem"   what am i supposed to do?
[12:37] <bozza> Cannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:37] <hisaki> can anyone help getting a realtek alc883 soundchip on an nvidia chipset to work in ubuntu 7.04? There appear to be no errors but there isn't any sound either.
[12:37] <Judgege1> kkathman: Just downloading updates
[12:38] <bozza> Cannot join channel (SSL is required)
[12:38] <Scunizi> Judgege1: Cool.. what version? 1st time with this distro? or any linux distro?
[12:38] <kkathman> Judgege1: ohh ok
[12:38] <BernieMac> anyone know the command to bring up the GRUB file to change timing and boot order?
[12:38] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Its my 2nd time using Linux
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Nahob: you cant use the commands at that prompt unless you are using kenrel commands, the only other thing if you dont have a recovery kernel (all version of ubuntu instalol this for safety than you have to reinstall. there is no way to fix it at that prompt without knowing the kernel development
[12:38] <Scunizi> Judgege1: what was the first.?
[12:38] <kkathman> Judgege1:  yeah doing the updates is the right thing
[12:38] <Judgege1> Scunizi: First time was mandrake about 2/3 years ago. Used it for about 5 days
[12:38] <bozza> hmm weird i already had openssl installed .. but i cant join channels that require SSL
[12:38] <Crovax31> Scunizi: salu
[12:38] <BernieMac> !grub
[12:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:38] <Crovax31> hi
[12:39] <BernieMac> nevermind I think that will get me there
[12:39] <Scunizi> Judgege1: you're in for a treat.. things have changed a LOT.. Ubuntu can become addictive
[12:39] <Nahob> gnomefreak: how do I boot into this thing that you say all versions of Ubuntu have?
[12:39] <rathel> !mt-daapd
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mt-daapd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <PKdoR> is there any good "howto install themes" I cant get a grip on it.
[12:39] <Scunizi> Crovax31: salu?  audio program? or what?
[12:39] <matrix> Enter text here.
[12:39] <Judgege1> Scunizi: yea, can see that already. I have always loved the look and feel of linux.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Nahob: restart your pc and on the grub screen choose the line that says recovery mode
[12:39] <matrix> ciao a tutti
[12:39] <matrix> ci sarebbe qualche angelo che mi puo dare una piccolissima mano con la mia wi-fi
[12:39] <Bizon> Hi, is there a mean to use the command "executableFile" instead of "./executableFile" ?
[12:39] <Crovax31> sorry, it's how to say hi in french
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Nahob: if you dont get grub menu press esc when it tells you to
[12:40] <gnomefreak> !it | matrix
[12:40] <ubotu> matrix: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:40] <Judgege1> Scunizi: jrib gave me a link to a command that would install a LAMP all in one go, would you happen to know it?
[12:40] <Scunizi> Judgege1: you'll have some issues but usually nothing unsurmountable..
[12:40] <kkathman> does anyone know of a utility that allows evolution to convert maildir/mbox files from kmail ?
[12:41] <Scunizi> Judgege1: was it something similiar to 'sudo apt-get insatall apache2 php5 mysql' etc?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> kkathman: evolution? whats that? :)
[12:41] <Judgege1> Scunizi: No it was tel something i think
[12:41] <gnomefreak> kkathman: no evo doesnt intrergrate really good with kde so you may be hard pressed to find one
[12:42] <gnomefreak> and kmail has alot of desired missing features
[12:42] <kkathman> gnomefreak: ugh ok - well kontact is really a better product, but I was trying to get as native as possible :)
[12:42] <Crovax31> (00:41:08) gnomefreak: kkathman: evolution? whats that? :)
[12:42] <kevin_> kkathman - it is possible... i've done it, just can't remember how!-)
[12:42] <Crovax31> evolution is great, I need it for entreprise microsoft exchange serveur
[12:42] <gnomefreak> kkathman: i dont know of one off hand
[12:42] <grephead> Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto the best docs available on how to downgrade ubuntu?
[12:43] <Scunizi> Judgege1: ok.. don't know that exact one but I have a suggestion if you want to play with lamp.  Install VMWare Server (free) and then install the server (Lamp) edition of Ubuntu.  That way you can play, screw things up, make it work etc without distroying your primary setup.
[12:43] <bryn> this may be a stupid question, but when is Gutsy officially released?
[12:43] <Crovax31> 18 off next mont
[12:43] <Crovax31> mounth
[12:43] <bryn> oh sweet
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Crovax31: evo == MS outlook clone thats why its one of hte only mail clients that has good intergration for MS servers/databases/ect..
[12:43] <bryn> that's my birthday!
[12:43] <Judgege1> Scunizi: I would just prefer to get everyhting setup on here, as for now i will only be using it as a server
[12:43] <patrick__> i just used sudo chmod to change the permissions of a harddrive, but it only allowed me to have permisson to those files, but i want to copy a file from my internal hard drive to the enternal one and it still says i do not have permission, its mounted as /media/disk
[12:44] <teh_uber> ..... i turned on this broken filter but i dont know what to do to find the broken package
[12:44] <Judgege1> Scunizi: And im scared of command line interface of the server =P
[12:44] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[12:44] <Crovax31> bye, It speak too much here, I can't read and write without stress
[12:44] <kkathman> Judgege1:  learn the CLI its your friend and will save your life :)
[12:45] <kkathman> your linux life at least
[12:45] <Judgege1> kkathman: Thats my plan before i really get into linux
[12:45] <kkathman> good :)
[12:45] <gnomefreak> helps to have linux to learn cli
[12:45] <veco> i need help make not working
[12:45] <Scunizi> Judgege1: in that case you have a couple of options. Install Ubuntu Server and choose the LAMP option on install. Then (from the scary command prompt) type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".  However you should know that you WILL have to use the command line to make Lamp work the way you want.
[12:45] <gnomefreak> veco: error?
[12:45] <veco> wait
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:845: error: called object '<erroneous-expression>' is not a function
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:845: warning: statement with no effect
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:848: error: 'ScanContext' has no member named 'pages'
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:849: warning: implicit declaration of function 'remove'
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:849: error: 'ScanContext' has no member named 'outputName'
[12:45] <veco> scan.c:850: warning: implicit declaration of function 'free'
[12:46] <veco> scan.c:850: error: 'ScanContext' has no member named 'lineBuf'
[12:46] <veco> scan.c:852: error: 'EXIT_SUCCESS' undeclared (first use in this function)
[12:46] <veco> scan.c:852: warning: return makes integer from pointer without a cast
[12:46] <gnomefreak> !pastebin > veco
[12:46] <sitherae> Hey
[12:46] <gnomefreak> veco: see !pastebin
[12:47] <sitherae> I just bought a 8600 GTTS :D
[12:47] <gnomefreak> veco: that isnt make error that is a code error
[12:47] <veco> pastebin?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | veco
[12:47] <ubotu> veco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:47] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Yes i know =O. Got any helpful sites?
[12:47] <veco> im trying to install pixma scanner and everywhere says to dowload that tarball
[12:47] <gnomefreak> veco: but make isnt causing that error more than likely its the makefile of the app causing it
[12:47] <Scunizi> Judgege1: don't worry though.. there are ways of using the gui desktop to edit configuration files. But no easy gui setup unfortunatly.. One step at a time and next thing you know you'll be comfortable.
[12:47] <veco> and make
[12:47] <veco> and 0 points there :(
[12:47] <gnomefreak> veco: you need to ./configure first
[12:47] <PKdoR> I cant configure a theme and its beggining to get fustrating!!!
[12:48] <davi> How to add the key:   NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5   ?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> PKdoR: gnome doesnt need themes to be configured
[12:48] <veco> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[12:48] <sitherae> I just  bought a new graphics card. When I start ubuntu I get an X server error
[12:48] <gnomefreak> PKdoR: kde used to but i think even that has changed
[12:48] <Scunizi> Judgege1: if you're dealing with a web server, the site for Apache has tons of good info.
[12:48] <Judgege1> Scunizi: I found it "sudo tasksel install lamp-server"
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: you need to reconfigure X
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> then boot a basic X config, and the insall nvidia drivers
[12:48] <gnomefreak> veco: for full debug i would need to try it and i cant atm but its not you its the source thats messed up
[12:48] <veco> ;(
[12:48] <kevin_> sitherae: what gfx card u got?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> veco: it happens to the best of us
[12:49] <Scunizi> Judgege1: I've never heard of tasksel or used it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'll google it.
[12:49] <veco> ;(
[12:49] <sitherae> kevin_: evga 8600 GTS
[12:49] <veco> is there any other way to configure a scanner (pixma mp160)
[12:49] <sitherae> Just got it today
[12:49] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Its on the community help pages under webserver
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: thats nvidia chipset, right?
[12:49] <AndyCR> hi, what's the console command for the gnome suspend?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> veco: scan.c:845: error: called object  '<erroneous-expression>' is not a function
[12:49] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: yes
[12:49] <AndyCR> i tried suspend, and that just stays busy forever
[12:49] <kevin_> sitherae - what chipset is that?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> that is the important part of it everything else tells you why that happened
[12:50] <sitherae> Kevin_: nvidia
[12:50] <PKdoR> ! so how the hell do i sntall them?
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: when you boot, after the erorr, you'll get a CLI prompt.
[12:50] <lnx_> i need a program ( something like clipboard ) that i can only paste text to it only to print it without saving it there is something like this ?
[12:50] <BernieMac> AndyCR, is your swap partition big enough to support suspending?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> veco: you either are missing header files for kernel or the names changed and the source wasnt updated by the looks of it
[12:50] <Scunizi> Judgege1: tasksel is not installed on my Dapper system.  maybe use sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[12:50] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: yes im at it
[12:50] <AndyCR> BernieMac: I mean suspend to ram, not to disk
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: run this command..   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and just take the defaults for everything.. nothing fancy, just defaults
[12:50] <veco> hmm yeah it could be edgy-build
[12:50] <PKdoR> when i try the ./config it says there is no such file
[12:50] <gnomefreak> veco: assuming you installed kernel-headers package as it is needed
[12:50] <veco> no help there, huh ?
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: once you do that, you should get back to a GUI after restarting, then you can work on installing the nvidia driver.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> PKdoR: you dont configure themes
[12:50] <Judgege1> Scunizi: I'm using 7.04, so it should work for me?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> veco: not without looking deep into source, make sure you have kernel-headers installed for your kernel
[12:51] <AndyCR> But no, I doubt the partition has enough space if I have a huge amount running, but it should if I'm running normal stuff
[12:51] <BernieMac> AndyCR, k, not sure what to tell you then. Mine won't suspend or hibernate because my swap is low. Not that important to me
[12:51] <veco> ok how i check if kernel headers are there=
[12:51] <AndyCR> (I have 1gb of ram and a 1gb swap)
[12:51] <Scunizi> Judgege1: you'll only know after trying.   Apt-get is the typical install method.
[12:51] <AndyCR> BernieMac: Mine suspends fine, I just want to know the console command for it, since it won't suspend if beryl is running
[12:51] <gnomefreak> PKdoR: its in tar.gz you should beable to either drag and drop it or unpack it and drag and drop it into the theme manager in gnome
[12:52] <AndyCR> that way i can make a launcher that does killall beryl && suspend
[12:52] <veco> kernel-package?
[12:52] <PKdoR> ! ok ill try that
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok ill try that - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <AndyCR> so I can run beryl, yet suspend without issues
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !keaders | veco
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keaders - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <BernieMac> AndyCR, yeah that should be plenty, I have like 375mb of swap. Not sure about that. Might want to try in #ubuntu-effects channel, they might know more
[12:52] <kevin_> sitherae - ok, good (nvidia thank goodness).... you need to reconfigure your x server. open a terminal and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', enter your password, then answer the questions - should be safe to accept defaults. then either restart x or reboot.
[12:52] <Scunizi> Judgege1: also #ubuntu-server on irc
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !kernel-headers | veco
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-headers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <AndyCR> BernieMac: ok, thanks
[12:52] <gnomefreak> damnit
[12:52] <BernieMac> AndyCR, no problem
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !find headers
[12:52] <ubotu> Found: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.20-15, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic (and 33 others)
[12:52] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: What do i put for amount of memory?
[12:52] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Okay, thanks. Also do you have any good sites?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> veco: what kernel?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: how much memory does your card have?
[12:52] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: 256mb
[12:52] <Scunizi> Judgege1: personally?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: hago n a sec
[12:53] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Yes
[12:53] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[12:53] <Scunizi> Judgege1: things I've done?
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: doesn't it want the number in KB?
[12:53] <kevin_> sitherae - you shouldn't need to enter amount of memory - x should figure that out
[12:53] <Judgege1> Scunizi: Was refering to helpful sites, but sure =P
[12:53] <veco> 20.16 i think
[12:53] <sitherae> IndyGunfreak: yes
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: 262144
[12:53] <branstrom> How would I use iptables to block an entire program from accessing the internet?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> veco: uname -a will tell you
[12:53] <Crozar> anysites who can give me backgrounds where i can see thunder like a moving background :D
[12:54] <veco> yup 20.16 generic
[12:54] <Scunizi> Judgege1: http://www.apache.org/ for apache help.. personally.. http://www.tangsoosam.com
[12:54] <gnomefreak> veco: install kernel-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> kevin_: i've always had to enter the amount of memory.. not sure if its required or not, but i always have.
[12:54] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: It says only inpuyt that if it has trouble auto-detecting. How would I know if it has troubles with that?
[12:54] <ScorpKing> does anyone know how to auto detect the compression format of a file?
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> try it.
[12:54] <jcs7778> Is there a good terminal music player?
[12:54] <Budwaa> how can i start an app on its own x server?
[12:54] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: So just leave it blank?
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> the memory?
[12:54] <sitherae> Yes
[12:54] <pike_> jcs7778: i use mplayer but mpg123 or mpg321
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> you can if you want.. it will probably auto detect, i've just always entered it.
[12:55] <RoC_MasterMind> ScorpKing, you can try "file [filename] " or open it in VLC and look under Stream Properties
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: worstt hat happens, if it doesn't, you just runt he command again
[12:55] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: if video card mem it will use what the card can handle if id'ed right
[12:55] <gnomefreak> id'ed == detected
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> gnomefreak: right,
[12:55] <veco> they're installed, same error
[12:55] <pike_> ScorpKing: 'file filename' maybe
[12:55] <caveman> what folder are gnome wallpapers stored in?
[12:55] <kevin_> indygunfreak - in some instances it's necessary - eg, with shared gfx memory, but in most cases it's safe to skip. case of suck it and see, but from experience i've never had any problems leaving unspecified
[12:55] <ScorpKing> RoC_MasterMind: it's a .kth theme file. will try that.
[12:56] <jrib> jcs7778: cmus, moc, or mpd with some frontend
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> kevin_: like i said, i've always entered it, so i couldn't tell you how it is one way or the other.
[12:56] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: Yes or No to Use kernel framebuffer device?
[12:56] <ScorpKing> RoC_MasterMind: it's gzip. thanks
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> i think ist No.
[12:56] <Judgege1> jrib: You'll be glad to hear i got internet running and installed updates =P
[12:56] <veco> they're installed, same error
[12:57] <gnomefreak> veco: than its the source code
[12:57] <jrib> Judgege1: good to hear, did you figure how to get lamp?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> veco: make sure you have ALL build-deps installed including build-essential
[12:57] <iz> question: how can i get feisty to dump core w/ programs?  I did ulimit -c unlimited and changed /etc/security/limits.conf
[12:57] <jcs7778> Thanks guys ille try them.
[12:57] <xyz> how do I make VLC the default handler of .avi and .mp3 files (I already uninstalled Totem movie player and Rhythmbox)
[12:57] <iz> and it says it's dumping core, but there is no core file anywhere..
[12:58] <iz> and programming/debugging ninjas in the house?
[12:58] <iz> any
[12:58] <kevin_> xyz: you using standard ubuntu w/ gnome?
[12:58] <Scunizi> Judgege1: you can also install LAMP by using Synaptic under the System/Admin menu.  Just choose Apache2, PHP5, Mysql,
[12:58] <xyz> yes
[12:58] <jrib> !defaultapp > xyz (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:59] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: Alright done. Now what?
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: restart
[12:59] <Judgege1> jrib: Well, havnt got that far yet
[12:59] <veco> build-deps?
[12:59] <azimuth3d>  /MSG NICKSERV REGISTER top49012 webmaster@tgdn.org
[12:59] <gnomefreak> veco: build depends i think you should move this to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-motu is better place if people are there
[12:59] <xyz> jrib: VLC isn't on the list of apps I can choose
[12:59] <jrib> Judgege1: ah, just saw you asking before.  You can talk to ubotu and he'll send you the links again, just do  /msg ubotu lamp  or go straight to help.ubuntu.com and search for "lamp"
[01:00] <jrib> xyz: how did you install vlc?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> veco: last time i got that it was a makefile issue
[01:00] <xyz> apt-get install vlc
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> xyz: is it installed/
[01:00] <xyz> yes
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> then add it.
[01:00] <xyz> but the file associations aren't working
[01:00] <kevin_> xyz - ok, easy - go to System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media, select the multimedia tab and enter 'vlc %m' as the command for files you want vlc to handle
[01:00] <philven> you an get vlc in synaptic, that's how I installed it
[01:00] <xyz> thanks kevin_
[01:00] <Numbeast> if I have a problem, and can't find an answer in the forums, this is the place to ask right?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> veco: tweeking rules file made it work but yours isnt running ./configure so it makes me think that maybe you are missing a step or it may be a py code or something
[01:01] <Scunizi> Numbeast: yep
[01:01] <jrib> xyz: strange, shows up here.maybe run 'update-desktop-database' or just use a custom command and put 'vlc'
[01:01] <kevin_> xyz: no probs - vls is better than totem imho
[01:01] <xyz> kevin_: damn straight
[01:01] <sitherae> indygunfreak: failed again
[01:01] <alex713> hey i have unbuntu and my master volume control doensnt work?
[01:01] <kevin_> oops - meant vlc
[01:01] <xyz> kevin_: it's kinda stupid that by default Ubuntu doesn't even support mp3's
[01:01] <gnomefreak> veco: but from the error its missing something one of the header files or wrong header files not much we can do about that
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: not really sure how that happens.
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> happened
[01:01] <airstrike> how can i remove a link that i created with ln -s?
[01:02] <jrib> airstrike: rm
[01:02] <sitherae> indygunfreak: ill brb
[01:02] <Numbeast> so my mouse works fine, but the second I start a 3D FPS everything works perfectely except the mouse, it gets locked to the z axis so I'm pointing straight down, and no matter what I do it just quickly roattes about that point
[01:02] <jrib> !cli > airstrike (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:02] <airstrike> thanks
[01:02] <alex713> can you run  windows msn on linux?>
[01:02] <Numbeast> alex713: no
[01:02] <jrib> alex713: gaim can connect to the msn network
[01:02] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to install cedega plz
[01:02] <alex713> ok
[01:02] <airstrike> i tried removing it from within nautilus but it wouldn't let me because it was linked to a different file system
[01:02] <qebab> how would I ensure that a certain program started up every time my ubuntu booted?
[01:02] <Scunizi> Numbeast: what kind of mouse and do you also have a "tablet"?
[01:02] <kevin_> xyz: i know - pita - think it's to do with mp3 licensing crap... whenever i install ubuntu, i end up jumping through hoops just to make it work the way i want...
[01:03] <jrib> !startup > qebab (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:03] <airstrike> and how can i see what my ip is?
[01:03] <xyz> even Windows has mp3 support
[01:03] <Numbeast> scunizi: I have a cheap dell mouse, and no tablet
[01:03] <pike_> sandy: /j #cedega
[01:03] <xyz> airstrike: go to cmyip.com
[01:03] <Scunizi> Numbeast: is it a usb mouse?
[01:03] <pike_> sandy: you are aware it is not free right? there is a nominal fee
[01:03] <airstrike> is there a way to find out from within the terminal?
[01:03] <Numbeast> scunizi: yes
[01:03] <alex713> whats the best verson of linux?
[01:03] <houmala> automatix2 might help with mp3
[01:03] <qebab> thanks jrib, but I fear I'm going to have to resort to terminal, doing this over ssh
[01:03] <sandy> pike ya
[01:04] <sandy> pike_ what to do?
[01:04] <alex713> pike?
[01:04] <jebblue> what font do the Gaimers here prefer in the conversation window?
[01:04] <kevin_> xyz: yeah, but you pay for windows, and part of that will be a license fee to thomson electronics who hold the patent for mp3... ah, such is life...
[01:04] <pike_> sandy: join the cedega channel is prob best bet
[01:04] <jrib> qebab: do you want it to happen when your user logs in or earlier?
[01:04] <trpr> heh. i really don't understand the issue. so the mp3 package is ommitted for legal reasons. fetching it after install isn't that big of a deal :P
[01:04] <xyz> kevin_: i didn't know Microsoft had to pay for mp3's, but you're probably right
[01:04] <qebab> jrib: when my user logs in
[01:05] <alex713> man
[01:05] <alex713> linux is gay
[01:05] <Judgegeo> Woah. Silly internet died
[01:05] <sarloth> alex713:  there is not best "version"
[01:05] <qebab> the best would be if it just ran in the background
[01:05] <jrib> !CoC | alex713
[01:05] <ubotu> alex713: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:05] <airstrike> is there a way to find out my ip from the terminal?
[01:05] <Scunizi> Numbeast: I had this problem when trying to use my tablet with the pen.  I never spent enough time figuring it out.  But I do know that it's something in xorg.conf.. under the mouse section of xorg you might have to include " Option "USB" "on"  "
[01:05] <gordonjcp> alex713: there isn't really a "best version" of Linux
[01:05] <jrib> airstrike: wget -O - -q www.whatismyip.org      or    ipconfig
[01:05] <Numbeast> scunizi: thanks, I'll research that
[01:05] <DShepherd> airstrike, ifconfig
[01:05] <gordonjcp> oh, he's gone
[01:06] <DShepherd> airstrike, you on windows or linux?
[01:06] <airstrike> linux
[01:06] <airstrike> but i'm getting my local ip
[01:06] <airstrike> from the network
[01:06] <airstrike> with if config
[01:06] <kevin_> xyz: yep. any device, be it an operating system, ipod, or other mp3 player that plays mp3's has to pay thomson for the privilege of using their codec.... i still reckon ogg sounds better tho!
[01:06] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, what kernel version does ubuntu 6.06 come with? same as 7.04?
[01:06] <jrib> qebab: k, but the user will be logging in at the gui later?
[01:06] <jrib> airstrike: use the first command I said
[01:06] <gordonjcp> kevin_: only in the US though
[01:06] <airstrike> wget works
[01:06] <Llivavin> Someone wanna tell me how to compile pidgin 2.2.0 in a PM?
[01:06] <airstrike> yes, i'll make an alias
[01:06] <houmala> ifconfig
[01:06] <fujin> Tech-Mike: much older
[01:06] <DShepherd> airstrike, try www.whatismyip.org
[01:06] <airstrike> i like wget
[01:06] <airstrike> it's faster than opening a browser
[01:06] <PKdoR> !i tryed draging a theme gz.ter to the theme prefs but i still got a invalid file format
[01:06] <xyz> kevin_: so by installing VLC we are being pirates?
[01:06] <PKdoR> WTH!!!
[01:07] <airstrike> where should i make the alias? ~/.bashrc ?
[01:07] <PKdoR> it really starting to PMO
[01:07] <Tech-Mike> ok good, i tried installing 7.04 on an ibm thinkpad and the kernel wouldnt install so ill try 6.06
[01:07] <jrib> PKdoR: umm, "gz.ter", do you mean "tar.gz"?
[01:07] <airstrike> or is there a more appropriate file?
[01:07] <jrib> airstrike: that works
[01:07] <PKdoR> yes
[01:07] <qebab> jrib: no, it's ssh at all times (I sort of removed the screen and put the desktop inside a closet)
[01:07] <Llivavin> VLC sucks so dont bother installing it at all.
[01:07] <jrib> airstrike: I like seperating it out into ~/.aliasrc and then sourcing ~/.aliasrc in ~/.bashrc, but whatever you like
[01:07] <airstrike> i might do that later
[01:07] <jrib> qebab: ok, so what do you want to start?
[01:07] <airstrike> kinda lazy right now
[01:07] <airstrike> i only have a couple of aliases
[01:08] <qebab> an instance of a python interpreter running an IRC bot
[01:08] <qebab> basically it's just 'python ~/foo/bar.py'
[01:08] <jebblue> whats with all the hearts
[01:08] <jrib> qebab: I suppose you can just set that up in your ~/.bash_profile  (I think this gets sourced when you login with ssh, check)
[01:08] <sandy> i need help in gusty
[01:08] <PKdoR> I cant drag ti I cant .cofugure it ither man What the Hell!!
[01:08] <jrib> sandy: #ubuntu+1 for help with gutsy
[01:08] <qebab> I'll check it out, thanks jrib
[01:08] <jrib> PKdoR: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: why would you do that?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> dapper is 2yrs old.
[01:09] <PKdoR> ! i will sir
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i will sir - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Opethic> Hello, what can I use for opening PDF files?
[01:09] <Tech-Mike> do what?
[01:09] <jrib> qebab: make sure you run the process in the background though (append &)
[01:09] <jrib> Opethic: evince, just double click on them
[01:09] <drizzyt> lol
[01:09] <Scunizi> Opethic: use "Document Viewer"  it's built in.
[01:09] <kevin_> xyz: not necessarily - it depends where you are in the world. the US is fairly draconian about this sort of thing, elsewhere less so.... and anyway, i figure that if i want to transfer my cd collection onto my pc (which i've done), that's not piracy - i'm just making my collection easier to use
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: if i understood you correctly, you said 7.04 wouldn't install, so you're going to install dapper.
[01:10] <Opethic> jrib: Evince is not displaying them correctly. Instead of the images, I see a black box. What else can I use for viewing them?
[01:10] <jrib> Opethic: try xpdf
[01:10] <Opethic> Okay
[01:10] <Scunizi> Opethic: you can always install adobe viewer.
[01:10] <Tech-Mike> well - everything installed but the kernel...got to like 83% and then said couldnt use kernel linux-generic
[01:10] <flavio_info> # ubuntu ol aguem fala portugues ai
[01:10] <jrib> !pt | flavio_info
[01:10] <ubotu> flavio_info: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:10] <dalesomers> Hi im new to ubuntu and need a hand with a scanner... any takers?
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: were u using he live cd, or alternate install cd?
[01:11] <Tech-Mike> alternate
[01:11] <flavio_info> #ubuntu-br
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: why did it say you couldn't use it?
[01:11] <Judgegeo> jrib: I restarted and lost link to that command you gave me earlier. Dont suppose you could provide me with it again?
[01:11] <kevin_> dalesomers: what sort of scanner? make / model?
[01:11] <Pelo> flavio_info, escribar  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:11] <drizzyt> dalesomers what's the scanner make and model
[01:11] <Scunizi> !lamp
[01:11] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:11] <iz> btw, i just figured out my core dumping question
[01:11] <Judgegeo> Thanks scunizi
[01:11] <dalesomers> kevin_: epson cx5000, i ahve the printing part working... just need to get the scanner going
[01:11] <lokpest> whats this
[01:12] <Tech-Mike> dont know, just errored sayin could use/install i dont know
[01:12] <iz> if anyone else wants to know, to provide "normal" looking core dumps, you need to change /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
[01:12] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: there is a bot in this channel.. just put ! and your topic.  If it knows it will answer.
[01:12] <drizzyt> dalesomers: sometimes scanner/printers have two drivers, one for scan and one for print
[01:12] <Tech-Mike> and when i did a disk integrity scan i failed on somthing about fonts
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: that doesn't make much sense.
[01:12] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: are you using the 32bit or 64bit installer?
[01:12] <Tech-Mike> thats what im sayin!
[01:13] <Tech-Mike> 32
[01:13] <dalesomers> i try to use xsane tobut it says its not there... but sane-find-scanner sees it
[01:13] <flavio_info> #ubuntu-br
[01:13] <flavio_info> aguem pode me ajudar
[01:13] <Pelo> flavio_info, escribar  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:13] <Tech-Mike> ill re-burn the cd and try again and let u know exact error
[01:13] <Judgegeo> I did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and its come up with a blue screen saying "installing packages"
[01:13] <jrib> flavio_info: faz assim:    /join #ubuntu-br
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> Tech-Mike: burn it SLOW... 2-4x
[01:14] <Tech-Mike> i did it at 16x
[01:14] <Tech-Mike> slower?
[01:14] <IndyGunFreak> yes.. 2-4x
[01:14] <Tech-Mike> i8
[01:14] <Pelo> Tech-Mike, slowest
[01:14] <kevin_> dalesomers - hmm, all-in-one... not sure. i'd definitely have a look at epson's website though - they're one of the better players with linux.
[01:14] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: cool.. learn something new every day!
[01:14] <Code-E> Hi, im having a problem, Im on teamspeak with my friend(we're on ubuntu) and we have our sound working, he can hear me speaking, and my mic is working i can test it in local mode, but i cannot hear him at all
[01:14] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Seems to be stuck at 0% though..
[01:14] <lokpest> lokpest@lokpest-laptop:~$ vrms    Non-free packages installed on lokpest-laptop linux-generic Complete Generic Linux kernel linux-restricted-modules- Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64 linux-restricted-modules- Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64 linux-restricted-modules- Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules helper script linux-restricted-modules- Restricted Linux modules for generic kernels  5 non-free packages, 0.3% of 1621
[01:14] <lokpest> installed packages.
[01:14] <Proxosi> Is there a application for widget for ubuntu?
[01:14] <lokpest> ??
[01:14] <dalesomers> cool ill ceck it out... thanks kevin_
[01:15] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: patients
[01:15] <lokpest> whats that? ubuntu is holding me captive
[01:15] <Pelo> Code-E,  can you play other sounds on your comp ?
[01:15] <Code-E> yes
[01:15] <Code-E> Other sounds are working fine
[01:15] <lokpest> I thought ubuntu was free software
[01:15] <Pelo> Code-E,  then I suggest you freind is the one that needs to fix it not you
[01:15] <Proxosi> Is there a application for widget for ubuntu?
[01:15] <airstrike> okay, i'm trying to edit my keyboard locale and i need to have an entry for "
[01:15] <Scunizi> lokpest, what part have you paid for?
[01:15] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[01:16] <trpr> Code-E: just a guess but perhaps full duplex on your soundcard isn't enabled? does your mic work while playing other sounds?
[01:16] <Pelo> Proxosi, define application widget ?
[01:16] <airstrike> unfortunately, the characters are always quoted with ", so i can't have """ as the character.. how should i escape it?
[01:16] <Scunizi> !widget | Pelo
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Code-E> trpr: what..? my mic is working and my sound is, i just cant hear my friend on teamspeak when he talks
[01:16] <Pelo> Scunizi, please don'T
[01:17] <Scunizi> Pelo :?
[01:17] <Scunizi> * :/
[01:17] <Proxosi> Pelo http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_darth_vader/498957719/
[01:17] <Pelo> Proxosi, hold on
[01:17] <lokpest> Scunizi: free as in free speech, not as in free beer
[01:17] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Now the screen has returend to the CLI
[01:17] <jimmygoon> !widget | jimmygoon
[01:18] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: ok.. any errors?
[01:18] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Nope
[01:18] <Numbeast> !widget | NumBeast
[01:18] <Pelo> Proxosi,  if you are using regular gnome,  gdesklets in the repos,  ifyou have compiz enable  screenlets google for it
[01:18] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: type sudo updatedb
[01:18] <Proxosi> Pelo i see. Thanks
[01:19] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: when it's done type locate apache*
[01:19] <trpr> Code-E: nvm then. if you don't know about fullduplex i won't bother explaining it. probably not the issue anyway :P
[01:19] <dalesomers> well as far i I can see, Epson does not have a linux driver per say, and i dont see any support of rlinux on this model...
[01:19] <Code-E> lol
[01:19] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: It came up with alot of results
[01:19] <Code-E> Well, his green light is blinking in teamspeak, i just cant hear him
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: did you get reconfigure fiured out?
[01:19] <Code-E> before i installed ubuntu, in linux it was working fine, if that matters
[01:19] <Scunizi> Judgegeo:  you're looking for something like /etc/apache2...
[01:20] <Pelo> Code-E, is it possible that your freind'S teamspeak is not properly configured and/or that is mic is not working properly
[01:20] <Code-E> Well his light thing beside his name goes green
[01:20] <Code-E> like hes talking
[01:20] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Yup, lots of results
[01:20] <Pelo> Code-E, can you hear other ppl talking in teamspeak ?
[01:20] <TxPitou> hello to all..
[01:20] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: if it came up with a lot of stuff then it's probably installed.  Try http://localhost in your browser.
[01:20] <TxPitou> !dvd
[01:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:21] <Code-E> Pelo, there isn't anyone else in the teamspeak
[01:21] <Judgegeo> Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 Server at localhost Port 80
[01:21] <TxPitou> Pelo you using teamspeak ?
[01:21] <doug_> how do i install a tar file?
[01:21] <Pelo> Code-E, then try in the teamspeak settings see if you have the correct output device selected or somethingl like that,
[01:21] <Pelo> TxPitou,  no,  Code-E is, and he's having some difficulties with sound comming out
[01:22] <Proxosi> Pelo is there an way i can get vm on ubuntu and run it?
[01:22] <Pelo> Proxosi, vmware ?
[01:22] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: Great!  You've installed it.. sounds like it's all there.. html files are usually located in /var/www/
[01:22] <TxPitou> pelo ah.. I havent tried the linux version of it yet,
[01:22] <Proxosi> Pelo ya
[01:22] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[01:22] <Pelo> Proxosi, menu > applications > add/remove , search for vmware
[01:22] <Judgegeo> Scuniziz: Thanks. Just need to install some other things.. *sigh*
[01:22] <doug_> !.tar
[01:22] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:22] <TxPitou> Code-E,  I would test mic/sound on a wav recorder first to make sure it isnt your headset
[01:22] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: like what?
[01:23] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: I dont know if phpmyadmin is installed
[01:23] <PKdoR> how can i change the splash sreen in ubuntu?
[01:23] <Proxosi> Pelo "There is no matching application avaiable."  For vmware
[01:23] <Pelo> !theme | PKdoR  last link
[01:23] <ubotu> PKdoR  last link: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:23] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: probably not.. just type sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[01:23] <Ashfire908> can i tunnel a network connection though ssh?
[01:23] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Also need to install some flv converter files etv
[01:24] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: not sure what jlv & etv are.
[01:24] <doug_> can someone tell me how to install a .tar file?please
[01:24] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: : Invalid operation phpmyadmin
[01:24] <Pelo> Proxosi, goto menu > system > admin > software sources  check all the boxes on the first tab and backport on the third one , reload,  close and try again in add/remove   and make sure you selected "all available packages" in the drop down list on the right of the search feild
[01:24] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: what windows manager do you have .. gnome or kde or xfce4?
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: what areyou trying to install?
[01:25] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Im using gnome
[01:25] <TxPitou> doug_,  open a terminal window and type tar --help
[01:25] <Pelo> doug_,  read in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:25] <jrib> doug_: you try to avoid it.  What are you trying to install?
[01:25] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  mp3_check-1.98.tar.gz
[01:25] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: ok.. go to System/Admin/Synaptic and search in there for phpmyadmin
[01:25] <Pelo> doug_,  but I suggest you do a search in synaptic first to see if the app you want is available in the repos , much easier and safer
[01:25] <doug_> jrib mp3_check-1.98.tar.gz
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: and what is tha?
[01:25] <NemesisD> anyone know of a (relatively) inexpensive wireless PCI card that will work out of the box with ubuntu?
[01:26] <jrib> !info mp3check | doug_
[01:26] <ubotu> doug_: mp3check: Check mp3 files for consistency. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-4.1 (feisty), package size 98 kB, installed size 280 kB
[01:26] <NemesisD> im sick to death of messing around with this usb dongle
[01:26] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: Okay, marked for installation
[01:26] <doug_> IndyGunFreak,  to check mp3 music for curoptions
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: also, jsut a quick look in synaptic, that program is in synaptic.
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> no need to compile it.
[01:26] <Pelo> NemesisD, you can try and consult this list but it is better if you have a model to check against it  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:26] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: you can search for all the apps you want and tag them all then hit apply.
[01:26] <jrib> doug_: after you've enabled universe, you can install it using synaptic like Pelo suggested or any other package manager you want
[01:26] <jrib> !software > doug_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:26] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: ALL apps?
[01:27] <Pelo> NemesisD, the forum is also a good place to check
[01:27] <sexcopter> hi, is it possible to use the network-manager applet but specify a static ip to use?
[01:27] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: all the apps that you want to install..  not ALL of them..
[01:27] <lnx_> i need a program ( something like clipboard ) that i can only paste text to it only to print it without saving it there is something like this ?
[01:27] <Judgegeo> Scunizi: So if i ever want/need anything look here first?
[01:27] <lnx_> linux have alternavite to these programs : ventrilo , teamspeak , moorhunt ?
[01:27] <Pelo> sexcopter, you can specify static ip in menu > system > admin> network , select your device and click properties
[01:27] <doug_> jrib,  IndyGunFreak   Pelo TxPitou  thanks i am installing it via synaptic
[01:27] <Numbeast> okay, so my mouse works perfectely, until I play a 3D FPS, in which case the program only responds to mouse movements downwards or to the right
[01:28] <sitherae>  I just  bought a new graphics card. When I start ubuntu I get an X server error
[01:28] <Numbeast> any ideas?
[01:28] <jrib> !xconfig > sitherae (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: always look in synaptic first, especially when you're new, way easier than compiilng tar files
[01:28] <Scunizi> Judgegeo: it's the best place to start.. It has everything available in the Repos.  If it's not in there then you might have to jump through hoops to get it installed.
[01:28] <Numbeast> !xconfig | NumBeast
[01:28] <sexcopter> Pelo: I see. So to get wpa funcitonality i'll need to follow some how-to, i think, i'm looking into that now
[01:28] <speleomania>  does anyone know how to enable the scroll button of my Logitech 5B mice under X?
[01:29] <Code-E> How do i install sound drivers ?
[01:29] <Pelo> !wifi > sexcopter  this might help or not check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:29] <Pelo> !mouse > speleomania check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:29] <sexcopter> Pelo: thanks
[01:29] <airstrike> sexcopter: i have an awesome howto
[01:29] <airstrike> on WPA
[01:29] <airstrike> hold on
[01:29] <Numbeast> speleomania: in your xorg.conf file you add an option along the lines of zmapping
[01:29] <Pelo> Code-E, if you have sound working in ubuntu you don'T need anyother sound drivers
[01:30] <Numbeast> speleomanai: let me find the link that'll tell you the excact syntax
[01:30] <sitherae> jrib: Which do I pick? fglrx, fbdev, cyrix?
[01:30] <airstrike> sexcopter, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[01:30] <jrib> sitherae: what card do you have?
[01:30] <sitherae> jrib: evga nvidia e-Geforce 8600 GTS
[01:30] <luckyone> can anyone in here help me get my system to output 1920x1080?
[01:30] <sexcopter> airstrike: thanks, i'll have a look at that
[01:30] <xyz> Help: I cannot get write support to work with ntfs-3g! (I ran this command "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd)
[01:31] <doug_> ok i got mp3check installed but now cant get it up
[01:31] <Pelo> luckyone, what videocard ?
[01:31] <airstrike> it's the ultimate tutorial
[01:31] <luckyone> my xorg.conf file is located here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37636/
[01:31] <jrib> sitherae: so you had an ati before?
[01:31] <lnx_> linux have alternavite to these programs : ventrilo , teamspeak , moorhunt ?
[01:31] <sitherae> jrib: Yes
[01:31] <Scunizi> luckyone: maybe.. do you know how to get to your xorg file?
[01:31] <jrib> sitherae: choose "nv", do you have that?
[01:31] <Code-E> is there a program inside of ubuntu that allows you to test to see if your sound is working
[01:31] <sitherae> jrib: yes
[01:31] <luckyone> Pelo: I have an nVidia 5200, you can check my xorg.conf file here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37636/
[01:31] <luckyone> Scunizi: xorg.conf file is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37636/
[01:31] <jrib> sitherae: k, after you do that, you will want to read ubotu's link to get nvidia's drivers going
[01:31] <Numbeast> code-e: system -> prefs -> sound
[01:31] <jrib> !nvidia > sitherae (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:32] <sitherae> jrib: Thank you ver much!
[01:32] <Pelo> luckyone, there is a nvidia settings package in synaptic that should allow you to do that
[01:32] <Scunizi> luckyone: that link is no good anymore.
[01:32] <Judgegeo> jrib: Do you know anything else i should install?
[01:32] <Llivavin> Can someone tell me how i can listen to streaming mp3's with firefox?
[01:32] <luckyone> Scunizi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37636/ it just worked for me
[01:32] <norty> can someone help me, im need to use slime with emacs to write code in lisp, i did sudo apt-get install slime and got slime but it isn't working, is there anything else i need to do?
[01:32] <xyz> Help: I cannot get consistent write support with ntfs-3g! (I ran this command "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd)
[01:33] <Pelo> Llivavin,  install mozilla-mplayer remove totem-mozilla
[01:33] <Scunizi> luckyone: got it... brb
[01:33] <TxPitou> Llivavin, click in firefox <tools><addons> and look for MP3 there are a few addons to do that
[01:33] <Pelo> xyz,  install  ntfs-3g-config ( i think that is the name of hte package) let that do the mouting in synaptic
[01:34] <Scunizi> luckyone: ah.. you're running it on a Visio?  is that the native res of the visio?
[01:34] <xyz> pelo: i already installed ntfs-3g and I have successfully mounted it several times
[01:34] <xyz> pelo: however, sometimes the write support doesn't work
[01:34] <Shadow6363> hmm, how does one send an e-mail from the terminal?
[01:34] <Pelo> xyz,  read again "ntfs-3g-config"
[01:34] <luckyone> Scunizi: I found that modeline here: www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=818988&page=5&pp=30
[01:34] <Pelo> Shadow6363,  man sendmail
[01:35] <xyz> pelo: ntfs-config doesn't work very well for me.. probably because my hard disc is somewhat corrupted
[01:35] <Shadow6363> Pelo, if i don't have sendmail on the system im using?
[01:35] <sitherae> jrib: What should be starred at the "X.org server modules that should be loaded by default:" screen
[01:35] <jrib> Judgegeo: just search around, there's thousands of packages and what I want is probably different than what I want
[01:35] <Pelo> xyz,  then I would propose to you that the problem is not the ntfs driver but the corrupted harddrive taht is the problem  , backup the data,  reformat it and ...
[01:35] <jrib> erm, s/I/you
[01:35] <MeRodent> Shadow6363, terminal will give you a list of packages you can install for sendmail.
[01:36] <airstrike> does anyone know how to escape a character when editing the locales on /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose?
[01:36] <Pelo> Shadow6363, sendmail is insatlled by default in ubuntu
[01:36] <Judgegeo> jrib: Well, i mean like pidgin - is it worth downloading?
[01:36] <xyz> Pelo: I can do that, but I also wanna manage the files in there a bit.. the strange thing is that the write support does work SOMETIMES
[01:36] <MeRodent> Pelo, no it's not.
[01:36] <luckyone> hmmm, I guess I tried this over HDMI, not VGA, I am going to give that a shot
[01:36] <Numbeast> are there any other irc channels for ubuntu/linux/xorg?
[01:36] <jrib> Shadow6363: install an MTA like esmtp so you can just use some smtp server like gmail's
[01:36] <Scunizi> luckyone: I also saw 1360x768...
[01:36] <norty> can someone help me, im need to use slime with emacs to write code in lisp, i did sudo apt-get install slime and got slime but it isn't working, is there anything else i need to do?
[01:37] <Pelo> xyz, there you tell me that ntfs write doesn'T always work and then you tell me that the hdd is corrupted,  please make the damn connection
[01:37] <jrib> Judgegeo: if pidgin has some features that gaim does not have, then I suppose it's worth it, but it's not in synaptic, so it will take some extra work
[01:38] <Scunizi> luckyone, but native seems to be confirmed in other sites at 1920x1080
[01:38] <Shadow6363> MeRodent, Pelo, jrib, I'm ssh'ing into a school solaris server and figured theyd have similar things to ubuntu but sendmail isnt one so i think ill just go looking for a solaris channel
[01:38] <Pelo> norty,  maybe you can try and google or check in the forum this is very specialised not sure we are up for it
[01:38] <Judgegeo> jrib: And do you know anything about apache, etc?
[01:38] <doug_> ok i installed mp3check but its nto showing up anywhere
[01:39] <norty> i tried following the directions, it says something about editing ~/.emacs, but i cannot find that file anywhere
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: open a terminal and type mp3check
[01:39] <bruenig> norty, you might need to create it
[01:39] <Pelo> doug_,  if it is a command line application it won'T show in the menus,   try typing mp3check in the terminal
[01:39] <Scunizi> luckyone, have you tried "nvidia-settings" or "nvidia-settings" from the command line?
[01:40] <Scunizi> *setting or *settings
[01:40] <doug_> ah ok thnks Pelo and IndyGunFreak  so how i get it to check in the ntfs side?
[01:40] <norty> how do i uninstall something i got with apt-get?
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> doug_: now that i don't know..
[01:40] <bruenig> norty, apt-get remove thing
[01:40] <norty> thx
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> hyou'll have to go through program options, etc.
[01:41] <Pelo> doug_,  gotyour ntfs partition mounted ?   cd to the folder where you have your mp3 and then mp3check filename I guess
[01:41] <jrib> Judgegeo: not much, there is #apache
[01:41] <luckyone> Scunizi: yes, nvidia-settings doesn't show me the 1920x1080 that my tv can display
[01:41] <sitherae> What is the command to restart the xserver?
[01:41] <Scunizi> luckyone: let me look closer at your xorg.. brb
[01:41] <Llivavin> Hrm, When ever i open up more then 2 or 3 windows when i have beryl running the window just turns black
[01:41] <doug_> Pelo,  its saying i must specify
[01:41] <Llivavin> Any reason why?
[01:41] <Pelo> sitherae,  ctrl _ alt _ backspace
[01:42] <doug_> Pelo,  and i have
[01:42] <jrib> !away > Thug-Life (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <Pelo> doug_,  specify what ?
[01:42] <bruenig> sitherae, if x is set to respawn you can just kill it, usually I do init 3 ; init 5, but that won't work on debian
[01:42] <sitherae> Pelo: I meant in the terminal, because mine failed at to start
[01:42] <buttercups> sitherae: ctrl space backspace
[01:42] <doug_> Pelo,  mp3check: you must specify the mode of operation
[01:42] <philjr> HI
[01:42] <Pelo> sitherae,  startx
[01:42] <sitherae> Pelo: ty
[01:42] <Pelo> doug_, man mp3check
[01:43] <philjr> HEWS THIS
[01:43] <mks2007> hey i've just installed gutsy gibbon tribe 5 hoping to see compiz but it's not working. it comes with tribe 5, right? i have extra effects enabled and my nvidia card drivers working. any ideas?
[01:43] <Pelo> mks2007,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <sitherae> Jrib: Im getting a no screens found error
[01:43] <jrib> sitherae: try vesa as your driver then
[01:43] <Pelo> sitherae, is ubuntu installed ?
[01:43] <mks2007> thnx Pelo
[01:44] <pike_> mks2007: a beryl or compiz livecd like knoppix too if you just want to play around with it
[01:44] <sitherae> Pelo: yes lol.. what is vesa?
[01:44] <philjr> HELLO
[01:44] <Pelo> sitherae,  vesa is a more or less generic videocard driver
[01:44] <Pelo> hello philjr
[01:45] <Pelo> sitherae,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  select vesa for the driver
[01:45] <Scunizi> luckyone: here's mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37637/  anything with a # is commented out and non functional.. you'll notice that my screen size options are in metric (or some other value). You might have to use that type of referance to get it right.  I googled some time ago for that info.  Sorry I don't have a link.. Also I'm on Dapper (which shouldn't make much differance.)
[01:45] <sitherae> Pelo: what do I put in "Video card
[01:45] <sitherae> s bus identifier:" ?
[01:45] <norty> what is the command to search for a specific directory ?
[01:46] <lnx_> i need a program ( something like clipboard ) that i can only paste text to it only to print it without saving it there is something like this ?
[01:46] <cjae_> ok i seriously broke amsn and now can't log in
[01:46] <Pelo> sitherae, I think you just use the default provided
[01:46] <mks2007> pike_: i am switching from winxp to linux os. a friend recommended ubuntu, and suggested i try gutsy gibbon tribe 5. in retrospect, i should probably be trying fiesty and then just installing compiz... for stability
[01:46] <jrib> norty: find, locate, whereis  ?
[01:46] <phogg> norty: find / -type d -name whatever
[01:46] <Scunizi> cjae_: uninstall completely then reinstall.
[01:46] <cjae_> automatix server down
[01:46] <Numbeast> okay, so my mouse works perfectely, until I play a 3D FPS, in which case the program only responds to mouse movements downwards or to the right
[01:46] <Numbeast> any ideas?
[01:46] <cjae_> and can't install from synaptic
[01:46] <luckyone> how do I make my system use gdm rather than kdm?
[01:46] <doug_> how do i cd to the desktop?
[01:46] <Pelo> lnx_,   gedit
[01:46] <MeRodent> Numbeast, run around in circles?
[01:46] <luckyone> for the login manager?
[01:46] <jrib> luckyone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:46] <Ashfire908> how do i create a checksum?
[01:47] <jrib> !automate > cjae_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:47] <lnx_> Pelo , what is gedit ?
[01:47] <jrib> Ashfire908: md5sum
[01:47] <jrib> !automatix > cjae_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:47] <Scunizi> luckyone: when logging in change "sessions".  if you don't have gdm installed then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:47] <Pelo> lnx_,   a simple text editor you can paste to that and print all you want
[01:47] <Numbeast> doug : "cd /home/*yourusername*/Desktop"
[01:47] <pike_> mks2007: yeah. esp just switching from xp.  the +1 releases are never that bad but ive always had something i needed to fix manually usually just little stuff
[01:47] <MeRodent> doug_, or cd ~/Desktop
[01:48] <cjae_> installed distro specific amsn and now have two of the same profiles and can't log into either where is config file that holds profile info
[01:48] <lnx_> Pelo , but i need to create file and then to print from , i want something that i dont need to create file
[01:48] <speps> hey guys ... what about Fruity Loops and wine????
[01:48] <tinman47> Hi can someone help me with a Bash script?
[01:48] <cjae_> won't let log in cause already in use
[01:48] <doug_> ok now MeRodent  how do i bring a list of stuff up in the folder or what not?
[01:48] <Xero> tinman47, #bash
[01:48] <Numbeast> doug: ls
[01:48] <jrib> cjae_: check if you have ~/.amsn and rename it
[01:48] <Pelo> lnx_, if you just open gedit and paste to it and then close whitout saving there will be no file created
[01:48] <MeRodent> ls ~/Desktop
[01:48] <luckyone> Scunizi: the problem is that I can't read the screen on login
[01:49] <Madnez> !sdl
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <cjae_> jrib
[01:49] <cjae_> jrib, ok
[01:49] <luckyone> Scunizi: the text is too small
[01:49] <doug_> hmm Numbeast  and MeRodent  it wont show my ntfs y
[01:49] <Wofl> hey guys
[01:49] <MeRodent> doug_, that's because the ntfs system isn't in your Desktop.
[01:49] <doug_> MeRodent,  its mounted on my desktop
[01:49] <cjae_> jrib, no i don't
[01:50] <Wofl> anyone here have experience with RAID?
[01:50] <MeRodent> doug_, it's mounted in /media
[01:50] <Wofl> hardware raid
[01:50] <jrib> cjae_: no you didn't what?
[01:50] <Pelo> !raid | Wofl
[01:50] <ubotu> Wofl: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:50] <doug_> so MeRodent  id have to cd to the /media?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> there can be links to /media/whatever to your /home/user/Desktop/Whatever :)
[01:50] <cjae_> jrib,  and when I try install from synaptic it tries the getautomatix server
[01:50] <MeRodent> doug_, yep. Then into the name of the drive
[01:50] <jrib> cjae_: then get rid of it in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:50] <MeRodent> doug_, ie /media/windows
[01:50] <cjae_> jrib,  i don't have ~/msn
[01:51] <jrib> cjae_: "~/.amsn", not "~/msn"
[01:51] <Ashfire908> jrib, is there a better way
[01:51] <cjae_> jrib, sorry ~/.msn
[01:51] <doug_> thanks MeRodent and everyone else who has helped me
[01:51] <Pelo> cjae_,  read carefully ~/.msn  the dot means it's a hidden folder  crtl+H to display
[01:51] <lnx_> Pelo , kate can do it :) thanks
[01:51] <jrib> Ashfire908: "better" in what way?
[01:51] <cjae_> jrib,  pm
[01:51] <cjae_> jrib,  i know
[01:51] <LordFDisk> Ello Everyone I'm new to ubuntu .. and have a Q: how to I get out of X Windows? so I can install a Nvidia Driver?
[01:51] <cchance> I have ubuntu 7.04, finaly got it to get the modem to intilize but everytime I dialout and it seems to finish I get hit with a no carrier error. im not sure what this is but is their anyway yo make it not check it?
[01:51] <jrib> cjae_: ~/.amsn  with an "a"
[01:51] <Pelo> lnx_, you ddn'T mention you were useing kubuntu , this is hte ubuntu channel ie gnome
[01:52] <wolferine> how can I find whats using my bandwith, it appears someone is uploading to me ?
[01:52] <Ashfire908> jrib the man doesn't explain stuff very well
[01:52] <MeRodent> LordFDisk, what card are you using?
[01:52] <jrib> cjae_: just try this: mv ~/.amsn{,.backup}
[01:52] <sitherae> Pelo, jrib: the x server failed to start again. Would you like a server output to diagnose the problem?
[01:52] <LordFDisk> 7300GS
[01:52] <Pelo> cchance,  check the phone number , remove all - and ()  see if that helpls
[01:52] <jrib> Ashfire908: md5sum FILE    will return the md5sum for FILE.  There are probably some gui tools, but I don't know any
[01:52] <cjae_> jrib, ok im dumb sorry
[01:52] <Numbeast> LordFDisk: ctrl, alt, 1
[01:52] <cchance> the number does not have the - or ()
[01:52] <Pelo> sitherae, I woudlnT' be able to do wnything with that , maybe jrib can
[01:52] <cjae_> jrib,  renamed now open app
[01:52] <cjae_> amsn
[01:53] <Pelo> cchance,  1 before the area code if needed
[01:53] <jrib> sitherae: hmmm, yeah, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf for all to see
[01:53] <Numbeast> Numbeast: LordFDisk: ctrl, alt, 7 to get back to X
[01:53] <cchance> there is no area code just straight number
[01:53] <Pelo> cchance,  also make sure the modem is connected the rightway around
[01:53] <cchance> since its in my area code
[01:53] <sitherae> Jrib: I cant.... but I know the problem is that its not detecting my screen...
[01:53] <cchance> it is
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: what are you choosing when it asks you for what ty pe of video device?
[01:53] <cchance> it gets a dialtone
[01:53] <cjae_> jrib, thanks
[01:54] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: Hold on
[01:54] <Pelo> cchance,  try searching in the forum for the exact error msg see if anything comes up   www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:54] <jrib> sitherae: you can do this for example:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[01:54] <LordFDisk> Thanks I'll give that I try ...  1 to leave 7 to get back
[01:54] <culprit> i had a general question about customizing ubuntu: I like using fluxbox but its just a window manager there are a couple of things that I would like to use with fluxbox so that I can make it usable for myself: wifi manager, my FnKeys, BT manager, nautilus to name a few. Is this possible?
[01:54] <cchance> pelo, there is no errors just no carrier
[01:55] <LordFDisk> Really Thanks =)
[01:55] <Pelo> cchance, seach for that
[01:55] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: What do you mean?
[01:55] <ivan> where can i get help on compiz fusion
[01:55] <Pelo> !dialup > cchance  review those instruttions  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: when you run reconfigure, wha are you choosing when it asks for your video device, nv, vesa, etc?
[01:55] <jrib> ivan: /join #ubuntu-effects
[01:56] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: nv
[01:56] <cchance> pelo, that how I got it setup :)
[01:56] <eugman> Is there any way to be able to use the substrate screensaver? It used to be available a few distro updates back before there was some change in gnome I think.
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> sitherae: i personally, would try using something generic, till you get booted, liek vesa, it won't be pretty, but you'll get a GUI giong, then you can install the nvidia drivers.
[01:56] <Pelo> cchance, yes and I think you might do well to double check
[01:57] <sitherae> IndyGunFreak: I've tried vesa. Still doens't work. x server isn't detecting my screen is the problem
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> wierd.
[01:57] <Pelo> sitherae,  has it ever worked before ?
[01:57] <sitherae> Pelo: Yup
[01:57] <Code-E> "All Audio Drivers failed to initiliaze" how do i fix
[01:57] <Pelo> sitherae, are yo using the amd64 bit  ubuntu by anychance ?
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: he upgraded an ATI card to an Nvidia.
[01:57] <sitherae> Pelo: No
[01:57] <cjae_> jrib,  can delete old .amsn
[01:57] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, from bad to worse , damn
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: i know.
[01:58] <jrib> cjae_: sure, if you don't want it
[01:58] <sitherae> Pelo, IndyGunFreak: Could the problem be that im not entering the right bus identifier?
[01:58] <Pelo> sitherae, maybe a clean install would be in order,  move your /home folder to another partition and you'll be able to recover all your data and settings
[01:58] <cjae_> jrib, thanks
[01:58] <norty> do i need to install lips after i install ubuntu and emacs or does it come with either of those already?
[01:59] <sitherae> Pelo: Alright. How do I copy those folders?
[01:59] <Pelo> sitherae, it could be but I wouldn'T knwo how to tell you to find out what the correct one is
[01:59] <winbond> is there an app that can show ram timings??
[01:59] <Pelo> sitherae, do you have another partition already available ?
[01:59] <jrib> sitherae: if you have an internet connection, you can pastebin those files for us with the commmand I gave you
[01:59] <ivan> jrib: hey no one answers can you help me??
[02:00] <doug_> ok i am back i was reading th eman on mp3check and done what it said but it wont work
[02:00] <Pelo> ivan,  try #compiz-fusion
[02:00] <sitherae> Jrib: alright what was that command again?
[02:00] <imbecile> just a quick question guys. where do I install gkrellm themes?
[02:00] <Judgegeo> I'm leaving now, no doubt ill be back one day..
[02:00] <jrib> ivan: you have to wait longer in #ubuntu-effects, it is not as busy as in here.  I would try to help, but I don't know much about desktop effects
[02:00] <Judgegeo> Thanks for setting me up to go jrib
[02:00] <Pelo> imbecile,  you check on the gkrellm site for info
[02:00] <jrib> sitherae: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[02:00] <jrib> Judgegeo: np, enjoy your ubuntu
[02:01] <jebblue> imbecile: .gkrellm2/themes
[02:02] <Numbeast> okay, so my mouse works perfectely, until I play a 3D FPS, in which case the game only responds to mouse movements downwards or to the right. any ideas?
[02:02] <imbecile> jebblue:  tyvm :)
[02:02] <jebblue> welcome
[02:03] <sitherae> Jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37640
[02:03] <Pelo> Numbeast, check in the game's preference to see if there is anything you can change or set , if not , check the games  website for a faq or a forum , if that doesn'T work  try the ubuntuforums or google
[02:03] <jrib> sitherae: do the same for lspci and xorg.conf
[02:03] <sitherae> k
[02:03] <jamison> i accidentally set my display res too high--how do i fix it?
[02:03] <Numbeast> pelo: the problem is this happens with every game
[02:03] <sitherae> jrib: are they all in /var/log/ ?
[02:03] <Madnez> guys
[02:03] <Numbeast> pelo: I think it may be linked to OpenGL
[02:04] <Pelo> Numbeast, do you have a strange mouse ?
[02:04] <Numbeast> pelo: nope, it's a standard usb, wheel, dell mouse
[02:04] <jrib> sitherae: 'lspci' is a command and xorg.conf is a file in /etc/X11/
[02:04] <Numbeast> pelo: and I don't have anything other input device installed
[02:04] <Pelo> Numbeast,  usb counts as strange in my book,  I would search in the forum for  usb mouse game  problem
[02:04] <Numbeast> pelo: lol, I'l try
[02:05] <Madnez> guys i have this sdl cannot find video device problem
[02:05] <jebblue> jamison: System:Prefs:System Reso ?
[02:05] <FreshPrince> i've problem to use wlan0. didntwork with connect -> fizzle ~ # iwconfig wlan0 essid ZyXEL key
[02:05] <FreshPrince> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[02:05] <FreshPrince>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
[02:05] <Madnez> ERROR: Could not initialize SDL: No available video device
[02:06] <FreshPrince> what should i do?
[02:06] <Pelo> FreshPrince,  don'T paste to the channel for one thing
[02:06] <doug_> anyone wana take a crack at why the music i play the most is not acting right and the ones i dont play the most is fine?
[02:06] <jamison> jebblue: i can't see anything :(
[02:06] <firus> To: FreshPrince:version of ubuntu, and which wifi card?
[02:06] <sitherae> Jrib: Xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37641
[02:06] <Pelo> doug_,  you wore out the mp3 file
[02:07] <norty> im trying to install slime, im following the directions online but it says i need to locate my lisp directory, i dont know where that is... do i need to install something or does it comes with emacs / ubuntu ?
[02:07] <doug_> lol Pelo  that i never heard of
[02:07] <tehseen> Anyone know how to fix beryl, I changed it to force XGL and now it freezes, any way to erase that setting
[02:07] <Zemus> Can anyone help me get compiz-fusion working?
[02:07] <Pelo> Zemus,  no ask in #compiz-fusion
[02:07] <doug_> Pelo,  i heard of wearing out cd's movies games tapes but not on the computer
[02:07] <Zemus> ok
[02:07] <jebblue> jamison: ok well in that case i usually start hacking xorg.conf
[02:07] <sauvin_> There's more than one kind of lisp; can you give some indication of what slime requires?
[02:07] <norty> common lisp
[02:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Zemus, or ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:08] <doug_> Pelo,  how can i fix them?
[02:08] <Pelo> doug_, actualy you can wear out hdd sectors,  but it takes a long time
[02:08] <sauvin_> In that case, you probably need to install cmucl or somesuch.
[02:08] <jebblue> jamison: there might be a better channel  for xorg questions im not sure
[02:08] <PPPP> i have a bluetooth usb dongle in place and tried "hcitool dev" to list it.  but i can't see it.  but when i tried lsusb, it shows up.  what should i do?
[02:08] <Zemus> FunnyLookinHat, ubuntu-effects is dead, unfortunately
[02:08] <rediz_> how do u start ndiwrapper
[02:08] <Pelo> doug_, that actualy brings up an interesting possibility,  copy the files to another drive or partition see what happens when you play them from there
[02:08] <sitherae> jrib: how do I pastebin what lspci outputs?
[02:08] <Zemus> rediz_, modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:08] <doug_> Pelo,  its same way i tried alrdy
[02:08] <jrib> sitherae: lspci | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[02:09] <MeRodent> sitherae, what driver are you using?
[02:09] <Pelo> doug_, I think your files might have gotten corrupted,  did you change the tags or something similar ?
[02:09] <doug_> Pelo,  nope nothing
[02:09] <sitherae> jrib: lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37642
[02:09] <rediz_>  Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-29-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[02:10] <Pelo> doug_,  not a clue then ,  try another player,   totem , amarok, rhythmbox , etc
[02:10] <firus> Are you doing that as root?
[02:10] <jrib> sitherae: edit your xorg.conf, change    BusID "PCI:0:1:0"    to    BusID"PCI:1:00:0"
[02:10] <jrib> sitherae: umm, with the correct spacing
[02:10] <doug_> Pelo,  i have its the same thing with the same ones
[02:10] <sitherae> jrib: how is that done through console?
[02:11] <Pelo> doug_, I'm out of ideas  try looking it up in the forum or on google
[02:11] <jrib> sitherae: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf      ctrl-o to save and ctrl-x to exit
[02:11] <doug_> Pelo,  i have its how i got a migrain
[02:11] <jos1> I'm looking for someone who is familiar with running bind
[02:11] <jos1> Got a named question
[02:11] <Pelo> jos1,  it'S better to ask the quesiton,  ppl might not be expert in an app but may still know the answer
[02:12] <sitherae> jrib: What do I need tochangew again?
[02:12] <jrib> sitherae: edit your xorg.conf, change    BusID "PCI:0:1:0"    to    BusID "PCI:1:00:0"
[02:13] <djlenoir> i am pretty new still to ubuntu (and linux). i have a new feisty fawn install in a system with 4 hard drives... on is ubuntu and the other three are ntfs. i am trying to get the ntfs drives visible and accessible to ubuntu and i am stuck. is there someone willing to hold my hand through getting this working?
[02:13] <cmorgan> anyone have a sneaky way to install ubuntu over an existing debian install?
[02:13] <jrib> Pelo: hey, it didn't work yet
[02:14] <DjViper> cmorgan: just format the drive? :P
[02:14] <cmorgan> like, a way that doesn't require a reformat of the drive
[02:14] <cmorgan> :-P
[02:14] <sitherae> jrib: startx now?
[02:14] <jrib> sitherae: yep
[02:14] <firus> ntfs-3g ...
[02:14] <cmorgan> DjViper: i was tempted to just change my sources to point at the ubuntu ones and apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:14] <cmorgan> heh
[02:14] <Dr_willis> cmorgan,  heard of it done by canging the apt sources and doing an apt-get dist-pgrade, sounded scary to me.
[02:14] <DjViper> cmorgan: but why change from debian to ubuntu?
[02:14] <sitherae> jrib: works! thanks!
[02:14] <Pelo> djlenoir, were  the ntfs drives plugged in when you installed ubuntu ?
[02:14] <djlenoir> i already installed ntfs-3g, the problem is i don't know what to do now
[02:14] <djlenoir> yes, they will plugged in
[02:14] <jrib> sitherae: no problem
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[02:15] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[02:15] <cmorgan> DjViper, Dr_willis: ubuntu has latest mythtv package under gutsy and now that zap2it labs is gone i need the latest myth release to get program guide data
[02:15] <Pelo> djlenoir, did ubuntu recognise them and mount them as read only ?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> djlenoir,  i normally run that. :) and let it set them up.
[02:15] <sitherae> jrib: ahh.. how do I install the right drivers now?
[02:15] <rediz_> firus yes please
[02:15] <jrib> !nvidia > sitherae (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:15] <DjViper> cmorgan: just download it manually?
[02:15] <djlenoir> pelo: no, it did not recognize them
[02:15] <Dr_willis> cmorgan,  yep. sad that zap2it is gone.. im about to set up a gutsy mythtv box some day soon :)
[02:15] <Pelo> djlenoir, are they raid ?
[02:15] <cmorgan> DjViper: ehh. i could. i mean, i develop open source software, do programming for a living, its just a maintenance thing. i've got sooo much work to do than compile manually :-)
[02:16] <djlenoir> pelo: no, they were just in a previous xp box
[02:16] <DjViper> cmorgan: hehe okay
[02:16] <Pelo> djlenoir,  are they recognised by the bios ?
[02:16] <frostburn> What's the default IR receiving daemon lirc?
[02:16] <dirtyhand> fd
[02:16] <cmorgan> Dr_willis: there is already a replacement. the guy that wrote myth, issac richards(?) and some other people have set it up. scheduledirect is the name
[02:17] <prospero91> screen -x
[02:17] <dirtyhand> how can I see what ports are open (being used by an application)?
[02:17] <Cinnabun> Hey, anyone feel like taking a little time to help some newbie figure out why he can't boot from his ubuntu disc? :D
[02:17] <Dr_willis> cmorgan,  cool. My Mythtv box is Dead.. :) i need to revive it soon.
[02:17] <culprit> netstat?
[02:17] <cmorgan> Dr_willis: well, let me try the crazy dist-upgrade route :-) i can always fix things up if that doesn't work
[02:17] <dirtyhand> netstat doesnt even show apache
[02:17] <djlenoir> pelo: yes, all three. now that you mention it, two of them are on a sata connection on the motherboard and i wonder if ubuntu sees them? i always had to use a disk to install the drivers for windows. motherboard is asus a7n8x-deluxe rev.2.
[02:18] <Dr_willis> cmorgan,  or reinstall. :) theres theat MythUbuntu thats needing beta-testers
[02:18] <djlenoir> pelo: one is on the ide with the ubuntu drive though
[02:18] <cmorgan> Dr_willis: yeah. i'd have to backup my mysql database, backup the recordings i have and then restore
[02:18] <Zunino> Would it be OK to ask a Gimp-related question here? No one seems to be reading the #gimp channel.
[02:18] <cmorgan> Dr_willis: i wasn't looking forward to it. i think i can make the dist-upgrade route work
[02:18] <Cinnabun>  Hey, anyone feel like taking a little time to help some newbie figure out why he can't boot from his ubuntu disc? :D
[02:18] <Pelo> djlenoir,  ubuntu should see sata no prolbem ,  go in  menu > system > prefs > hardware info ,  see if all hdd are listed, ( might take a while and some imagination)
[02:18] <culprit> netstat -a?
[02:19] <ptl> does someone here have libmysqlclient.so.14 to send to me for a quick test? Please?
[02:19] <Orange_Tea> How i change my icons
[02:19] <Pelo> djlenoir,  hold on ,
[02:19] <Orange_Tea> How i change my icons ? with others that i downloaded
[02:19] <djlenoir> pelo: ok thank you
[02:19] <Pelo> djlenoir, are the partitions on those hdd sound ? I mean are you sure there is readable data on it and proper partitions ?
[02:19] <Cinnabun>  Hey, anyone feel like taking a little time to help some newbie figure out why he can't boot from his ubuntu disc? :D
[02:19] <frostburn> Cinnabun, what error?
[02:19] <ptl> /dcc send ptl /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.14
[02:20] <djlenoir> pelo: yes. they all worked prior to installing ubuntu.
[02:20] <culprit> dirtyhand: netstat -a
[02:20] <prospero91> screen -X
[02:20] <Cinnabun> It tells me that boot file not found
[02:20] <Orange_Tea> How i change my icons ? with others that i downloaded?
[02:20] <Cinnabun> or Boot name
[02:20] <firu1> maybe partitions are flagged dirty? Inpropper shutdown of WinXp?
[02:20] <djlenoir> pelo: the drive on the ide channel was just formatted prior to installing ubuntu so no data on it yet. it is a 250gb drive
[02:20] <ToxicToO> Iptables: Is it possible to do one-to-many SNAT by any method on kernels > 2.6.10 ?
[02:20] <ptl> nobody?
[02:20] <Pelo> djlenoir,   open a terminal    type  sudo apt-get install gparted   then open gparted from the admin menu  see if the hdd are listed in the right hand  drop down list
[02:21] <djlenoir> pelo: ok, one moment while i do that
[02:21] <frostburn> Cinnabun, can you give me a verbatim message? word for word.  right now it sounds like a bad burn
[02:21] <ineedhelp> oy got a prob
[02:21] <Cinnabun> Alright, I'll be right back, getting it verbatim.
[02:22] <Pelo> ineedhelp,  oy we need quesitons
[02:22] <ineedhelp> i installed ubuntu 7
[02:22] <ToxicToO> Iptables: Is it possible to do one-to-many SNAT by any method on kernels > 2.6.10 ?
[02:22] <ineedhelp> it works perfectly rite
[02:22] <ineedhelp> but thing is
[02:22] <ToxicToO> I have a question too please.
[02:22] <ineedhelp> i cant connect to the internet
[02:22] <MenZa> !internet | ineedhelp
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <MenZa> hmm
[02:22] <MenZa> !network | ineedhelp
[02:22] <ubotu> ineedhelp: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:22] <Pelo> ineedhelp,  just state the problem and don'T use the enter key for puunctuation this is a busy channel it makes it hard to follow
[02:22] <ineedhelp> im on a different computer
[02:22] <ineedhelp> o ok
[02:23] <newpers> i just tried testing out ubuntu gusty and grub somehow missed my windows partition.  how can i manually set this up?
[02:23] <ivan> #compiz-fusion
[02:23] <Pelo> ivan,  /join #comp....
[02:23] <Opethic> I installed Adobe Reader.. How do I run it? I don't see it anywhere
[02:23] <Pelo> newpers,  same hdd ?  first partition on that hdd ?
[02:23] <ptl> Opethic: it's a known bug, not yet fixed
[02:23] <newpers> yeah
[02:24] <firu1> Opethic: acroread ...
[02:24] <Opethic> What?
[02:24] <Opethic> It'll install but not run?
[02:24] <firu1> form terminal, can you execute ./acroread
[02:24] <djlenoir> pelo: well that solves part of the mystery. ubuntu only currently sees the other 250gb drive that i mentioned and it shows it as ntfs. two other 160gb drives on the onboard sata controller are not visible.
[02:24] <Pelo> newpers,  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst , give me a minute to type out your edits
[02:24] <ineedhelp> i installed ubuntu...works perfectly but i cant connect to the net...usin linksys router
[02:24] <gnurph> i have a series of commands that I need to execute - how can I make them either automatically execute as a part of logging in, or as part of a script?
[02:25] <Pelo> djlenoir, do a search in the forum for sata  see what comes up  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:25] <firu1> ineedhelp: Did you set gateway?
[02:25] <ineedhelp> yo pelo...i installed ubuntu...works perfectly but i cant connect to the net...usin linksys router
[02:25] <djlenoir> pelo: i will search for an answer to the sata problem. any ideas on how to mount the one that is visible?
[02:25] <sitherae> Is the Nvidia 8600GTS supported by Linux?
[02:25] <Opethic> firu1: In which directory do I type that? I don't see a file named acroread anywhere
[02:26] <Ant1jr> sith: yes but only beta
[02:26] <Orange_Tea> Pelo when i went  to app>add/remove> "vmware" nothing.
[02:26] <test0987> sithrae: yes i think it is
[02:26] <Ant1jr> sith: lookup envy for linux
[02:26] <bruenig> Opethic, to understand how it works do this, echo "$PATH"
[02:26] <bruenig> !envy | Ant1jr sith
[02:26] <ubotu> Ant1jr sith: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:26] <doug_> Pelo,  u here?
[02:26] <firu1> Opethic: try locate acroread
[02:26] <Pelo> newpers,   at the bottom of the file add these lines (I'M sepereating each line here by a butload of spaces)         title Microsoft Windows XP           root (hd0,0)              savedefault                makeactive              chainloader +1
[02:26] <Ant1jr> I know what envy is dude lol
[02:26] <bruenig> Opethic, then do "which acroread", you see that acroread is in the PATH somewhere?
[02:26] <atlfalcons866> is xfs faster than ext3
[02:26] <djlenoir> pelo: listed as /dev/hdb with partition of /dev/hbd1
[02:27] <Ant1jr> !paste Pelo
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste pelo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <Orange_Tea> Pelo but when I went to Synaptic package manger "vmware" is there. But different packages
[02:27] <Pelo> Orange_Tea,  use synaptic
[02:27] <Ant1jr> !paste | Pelo
[02:27] <ubotu> Pelo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <Dr_willis> envy is what all the windows users have.. when they see us linux users and our leet desktops.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:27] <doug_> Pelo,  i sent one my songs to a friend he checked it on his computer it turns out to be just fine on his end but not mine
[02:27] <Pelo> Orange_Tea, install the server one
[02:27] <newpers> thanks Pelo
[02:27] <Opethic> firu1: It found acroread.py, acroread.pyc
[02:27] <ineedhelp> i installed ubuntu...works perfectly but i cant connect to the net...usin linksys router
[02:27] <test0987> hi im culprit and I used to be a windowholic. i've been sober for 5 months now
[02:27] <sitherae> I dont get it... How do I use envy?
[02:27] <Pelo> djlenoir,  man mount
[02:27] <bruenig> sitherae, you don't want to
[02:28] <vader1102> ineedhelp, someone asked you if you could see a default gateway?
[02:28] <sitherae> bruenig: why
[02:28] <Pelo> Ant1jr, that wasn'T a paste I typed it out by hand
[02:28] <bruenig> !envy | sitherae
[02:28] <ubotu> sitherae: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:28] <Dr_willis> vmware-server is in the  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main   repo.
[02:28] <firu1> Opethic: Are you sure you got Acrobat Reader?
[02:28] <Dr_willis> sitherae,  it can break things on down the road.
[02:28] <Pelo> doug_,  then you know the file isn,t the problem I don'T know what could be
[02:28] <sitherae> Dr_willis: Like what?
[02:28] <Opethic> firu1: I think so
[02:29] <bruenig> sitherae, kernel upgrades for one, but it also can fail outright
[02:29] <Opethic> firu1: I downloaded AdbeRdr701_linux_enu.tar.gz
[02:29] <ineedhelp> yo pelo...i installed ubuntu...works perfectly but i cant connect to the net...usin linksys router
[02:29] <bruenig> !info acroread | Opethic
[02:29] <ubotu> opethic: Package acroread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:29] <culprit> does anybody know if there is a fluxbox howto for ubuntu? as in get it up and running to an extent where you can get all the fn_keys working and have a network manager and wifi manager etc.?
[02:29] <firu1> Opethic: How did you install it?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> sitherae,  like ya do the upgrades one day.. then reboot.. and get no X.....
[02:29] <Cinnabun> I'm back, it was Boot filename not recieved. If you're still in here/
[02:29] <firu1> Opethic: for tar.gz?
[02:29] <sitherae> bruenig: It seems I already have envy installed
[02:29] <bruenig> !find acroread
[02:29] <Opethic> firu1: Yeah
[02:29] <MeRodent> sitherae, do you want a walkthrough on how to get the 8800gts working?
[02:29] <bruenig> sitherae, I wouldn't use it
[02:29] <ubotu> File acroread found in apparmor-profiles, gworkspace-apps-wrappers, zsh, zsh-beta
[02:29] <Orange_Tea> Pelo how i tell if its an server vmware
[02:30] <Dr_willis> sitherae,  and yes. i also have a 8800 card in my other machine. :) not got linux on that box.. yet.
[02:30] <Pelo> ineedhelp,  I don'T know how to help with that  sorry , check in the forum  www.ubuntuforum.org or direct your question to the channel at large , or maybe even try asking in #networking
[02:30] <Opethic> firu1: From the adobe ftp
[02:30] <Pelo> Orange_Tea,  the package will say
[02:30] <firu1> opethic: Let me see for myself ...
[02:30] <sitherae> Dr_willis: I already have envy installed, I was using it with my ATI graphics card. Is this alright?
[02:30] <culprit> !fluxbox | culprit
[02:31] <noob69> hello everyone
[02:31] <frostburn> Cinnabun, that's after you run the cd?
[02:31] <doug_> ok i have played some songs on my comp and just today they started messing up but i sent one that was to a friend he said it was acting just fine on his end just happened to be on my end messing up it runs slow i have rebooted and evrythng i tried anything and everythng i can think of anyone have anyideas?
[02:31] <bruenig> rebooted and everything? this isn't windows
[02:31] <Dr_willis> sitherae,   i havent used envy in such a case. the 'restricted-manager' tool handled my ati cards fine.
[02:31] <Cinnabun> No, if I run it in windows it works fine but to install it I have to boot from it, and that is when I get the message
[02:31] <Opethic> firu1: I downloaded from ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdbeRdr701_linux_enu.tar.gz
[02:32] <firu1> Opethic: Try follow instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html
[02:32] <ShackJack> Hi all - I have a external USB drive mounted (manually in fstab - for some reason doesn't automount USB) and I can access it by mount point @ /media/External, but for some reason the drive doesn't show in nautilus as another drive - any thoughts?
[02:32] <PKdoR> so GDM Themes are the equivalent of a login screen right?
[02:32] <noob69> anyone having problem adding programs for example Glade
[02:32] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  gdm is the  login manager for Ubuntu.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  kubuntu uses kdm
[02:32] <Animortis> What's everyone's favorite linux game? Mine's officially Frets on Fire.
[02:32] <firu1> Opethic: It worked for my friend yesterday
[02:32] <PKdoR> right
[02:32] <bruenig> !ot | Animortis
[02:32] <ubotu> Animortis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:33] <Animortis> Oops, sorry.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Been Playing FreeCol myself. :) FreeColznization clone.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> heh.
[02:33] <Cinnabun> Frostburn, No, if I run it in windows it works fine but to install it I have to boot from it, and that is when I get the message
[02:33] <Orange_Tea> Pelo how would i run it?
[02:34] <frostburn> Cinnabun, so it's not installed, its just booting from the cd
[02:34] <sitherae> Dr_willis: Im getting an error with envy: Envy has detected that one of the following applications is running: dpkg, apt-get, synaptic, update-manager, adept, adept notifier. Make sure they are not running and launch Envy again.
[02:34] <Cinnabun> Frostburn, It's not doing either. I would like to install it instead of just booting from the cd, but I do not know how to do that.
[02:34] <bruenig> sitherae, if envy fails, we will not provide support for it, as we have warned you already twice
[02:34] <Orange_Tea> Pelo how would i run vmware?
[02:35] <PKdoR> but im asking cause im browser the http://gnome-look.org page and im guessing that the term GDM Themes refers to only the Login Screen
[02:35] <noob69> help
[02:35] <sitherae> bruenig: can envy cause any physical harm to my computer?
[02:35] <frostburn> Cinnabun, so you are able to get to an ubuntu desktop with the cd, but after the install, it doesn't work?
[02:35] <noob69> i can't install program Glade
[02:35] <Dr_willis> sitherae,  be sure they are  not running i guess.. dont expect envy support here.. everyone will advise against using envy...
[02:35] <jamison> how do i exit X server to the shell?
[02:36] <bruenig> sitherae, no
[02:36] <Orange_Tea> Dr_willis how would i run vmware? I'm done installing
[02:36] <Dr_willis> PKdoR,  GDM is the Login manager, thus a gdm is the login screen. :)
[02:36] <ShackJack> Hi any thoughts as to why my external drive is mounted but not showing in nautilus as a drive... I have fstab and perms on mount point set the same as a secondary internal HD which is showing up (?)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Orange_Tea,  try 'vmware' :)
[02:36] <PKdoR> !sitherae I used envy in the past and never worked for me I would sugest to just use the driver provided but Ubuntu
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Orange_Tea,  and you MIGHT want to read up on some vmware docs.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> vmware can be a bit.. over whelming.
[02:37] <sitherae> I hate vmware >.>
[02:37] <Cinnabun> frostburn, you're quite a few steps ahead of me. Unless I am in windows, where the disc has only the option to isntall some programs such as firefox and not the OS itself (at least that I can see), I cannot even get anything ubuntu-related to happen (when I try to boot from the disc).
[02:37] <alecwh> Hello! I have a printer downstairs that I've used with Windows XP for quite awhile, but I can't figure it out on Linux. The Printer is a Laserjet 3150. Can anyone help me?
[02:37] <wastrel> printer
[02:37] <ShackJack> I'm having good luck with Virtual Box
[02:37] <Opethic> firu1: Should I use the Edgy or Medibuntu repository to install it?
[02:38] <ivan> hi how can i return all my ubuntu settings as default??
[02:38] <Dr_willis> ivan,  settings for what?
[02:38] <noob69> Can someone help me why i can't install the Glade program
[02:38] <wastrel> jamison:  ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a shell prompt.  ctrl-alt-f7 returns back to X
[02:38] <frostburn> Cinnabun, from what i've seen, it might be a hardware problem
[02:38] <sasa> good evening all....really simple question...which file system should I format my hard drive to install ubuntu on: ext3??
[02:38] <firu1> Opethic: medibuntu
[02:39] <pav> i cant change my iPod's permissions
[02:39] <Dr_willis> sasa,  the installer should partition, and format it as ext3. you dont need to format it befor installing.
[02:39] <firu1> Opethic: But, I'm not quite sure ... I run 7.04
[02:39] <Opethic> I'm using 7.04 too
[02:39] <doug_> how do i check my mp3's for errors i cant get mp3check to work
[02:39] <PKdoR> alec is it an HP
[02:39] <firu1> Opethic: then go for medibuntu
[02:39] <panosru> Can anyone help me install Eclipse Europa 3.3 ?
 so i can try and make my compiz work again because of all the ways ive tried i have fuckled up my ubuntu
[02:40] <OrTigaS> hi! i just installed dapper drake to external usb hd. my problem is i cant connect to internet but can see other network machine in our ofc. anny idea why i cant use internet? when i try to connect my lan cable to windows machine it connect to internet. :)
[02:40] <Opethic> wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - <--- Can I undo this after I install acroread?
[02:40] <sasa> Dr_willis: I am reformating my *entire* hard drive, and I created two partitions, one htfs and one ext3. I will then freshly install each OS on each partition. Will ubuntu let me choose partition when I fire up installation?
[02:40] <Cinnabun> Frost, anything off the top of your head that could be screwing things up? It's a core2duo system with a 7600gt nvidia card, pheonix mobo (don't know ID) and 2gb ram... dunno what else would affect it not booting
[02:41] <firu1> opethic: You can, but why? It only add gpg key
[02:41] <frostburn> Cinnabun, you also might want to check out the ubuntu forums for your specific hardware to see if there's any quirks.  From weird boot errors that I get, I find burning the cd slower helps.
[02:41] <johnny5> Forgive me guys, but I can't ask in a Windows channel cause they're stupid. I'm used to being able to mount a remote filesystem with ssh. But I have to use Vista right now on an at home work computer, and I can't find a way to do the same.
[02:41] <pav> why cant i change permissions on my ipod?
[02:41] <pav> panosru: whats the prob?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> sasa,  you are trying too hard.. set up the hd with a section thats Unallocated.. and let the ubuntu installer partition/format/ install to it.. it will handle it.
[02:41] <Opethic> firu1: Uh, I don't know.. I don't want that Medibuntu thing after installing acroread. The last time, it messed up some of my apps after I installed updates
[02:41] <Dr_willis> sasa,  you need 2 partitions also at least. one for / one for swap.
[02:41] <Cinnabun> Frostburn, I will do that. Thanks so much for the help so far, I may just be back. ;)
[02:41] <MeRodent> sasa, the installer will need to add a swap partition anyway.
[02:41] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[02:42] <Dr_willis> sasa,  or do it the easy way and leave a section UNALLOCATED.
[02:42] <OrTigaS> anyone?
[02:42] <firu1> Opethic: Just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove medibuntu repository ...
[02:42] <Dr_willis> sasa,  if you plan on insgtalling windows to the same hd.. Install windows first also.
[02:42] <gnurph> i have a series of commands that I need to execute - how can I make them either automatically execute as a part of logging in, or as part of a script?
[02:42] <Krimpet> johnny5: i'm not sure there's a way to do that in vista, sftp is probably your only option :/
[02:42] <Dr_willis> gnurph,  depends on the commands and what they do.
[02:43] <gnurph> Dr_willis:  3 iwconfig and a dhclient command
[02:43] <Dr_willis> johnny5,  id love to be able to do sshfs with vista.. winscp for windos is about as close as you can get however.
[02:43] <panosru> pav, i installed Eclipse from add/remove programs and there i tried to install PDT from zend but i need org.eclipse.php_feature something like this then i download it from eclipse and tried  to install it but i was need a wst feature then i went to #eclipse irc channel and asked them what happens and they told me to download the Eclipse Europa 3.3, i download it i run it but it stuck
[02:43] <Dr_willis> gnurph,  sounds like stuff to put in the /etc/rc.local script then
[02:43] <johnny5> what are the disadvantages of winscp?
[02:43] <gnurph> Dr_willis:  wireless doesn't autostart - it's the commands I need to get it rolling.
[02:43] <sasa> Dr_willis: if I format one section ntfs, and leave the other one unallocated, will the ubuntu installer be smart enough to install ubuntu on an unallocated partition? Is swap space necessary? I figured not to leave any swap space, as ubuntu can read/write to windows ntfs partition.
[02:43] <firu1> Opethic: and, use apt-key del ...
[02:44] <dalani33> Dr_willis I use scp all the time and ssh
[02:44] <gnurph> Dr_willis:  what usually goes in the rc.local script file?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> johnny5,  none that i know of. :) its just a handy tool. it dosent do drive letter type thing/mounting. just a good browser
[02:44] <ivan> Dr_willis: so i can try and make my compiz work again because of all the ways ive tried i have fuckled up my ubuntu
[02:44] <Dr_willis> gnurph,  stuff ran for the system. NOT for the user.
[02:44] <ShackJack> Hi all - I have a external USB drive mounted (manually in fstab - for some reason doesn't automount USB) and I can access it by mount point @ /media/External, but for some reason the drive doesn't show in nautilus as another drive - any thoughts?
[02:44] <gnurph> Dr_willis:  thank you, i'll try it.
[02:44] <doug_> anyone knwo anythng bout mp3's?
[02:44] <Dr_willis> doug_,  they are music. :)
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !anyone
[02:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:45] <dalani33> shackJack I plug in my usb key drive and it opens naultilus
[02:45] <doug_> Dr_willis,  lol yes i know this
[02:45] <pav> panosru did u compile this feature?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> doug_,  now to ask a real question? :)
[02:45] <ShackJack> dalani33: That's, um nice...
[02:45] <johnny5> oh, i do web dev and i have a large folder that i need to keep synced, it can be kinda slow. so i thought maybe there'd be something like that.
[02:45] <doug_> Dr_willis,  but on my end its runing real slow but on someone elses its fine and its my file i sent thm
[02:45] <panosru> pav, i'm new to linux i don't know anything about that :(
[02:45] <dalani33> its default I didn't have to configure it
[02:45] <Dr_willis> doug_,  you mean the music file is playing slowly?
[02:46] <dalani33> Shack to answer your question Id have to dig
[02:46] <doug_> Dr_willis,  yes only on my side
[02:46] <Dr_willis> doug_,  try some other players.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> doug_,  if its only the one.. file a bug report on it - i guess. :)
[02:46] <doug_> Dr_willis, OMG i tried thm all lol same thing
[02:46] <Dr_willis> try playing some other files as well.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> doug_,  that sounds like a.. Hmm.. not sure.. Driver issue then.
[02:46] <dalani33> ShackJack check your user permission settings for removable media
[02:46] <doug_> Dr_willis, it happens to beonly theones i play the most the ones i dont work fine
[02:47] <cchanc1> im trying to install Kppp and I run into the error checking for x... configure:error: Can't find x includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths. What is it wanting now?I have looked inn synaptic but nothing
[02:47] <ShackJack> dalani33: I should have clarified, it's an external USB hard drive (though you're right it should autmount)
[02:47] <Dr_willis> doug_,  wait.. only SOME mp3 files have this issue?
[02:47] <doug_> Dr_willis,  yes
[02:47] <sasa> Dr_willis, could you please comment on this question: if I format one section ntfs, and leave the other one unallocated, will the ubuntu installer be smart enough to install ubuntu on an unallocated partition? Is swap space necessary? I figured not to leave any swap space, as ubuntu can read/write to windows ntfs partition.
[02:47] <johnny5> http://www.sftpdrive.com/
[02:47] <SAM_theman> Help ME!!!!!!!!!!
[02:47] <SAM_theman> !nvidia
[02:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <dalani33> Try plugging it in after booting see if it shows up
[02:47] <Dr_willis> doug_,  thats weird.
[02:47] <doug_> Dr_willis,  i tried evrythng i can thnk of
[02:48] <dalani33> My problem is I cant get my user to run scripts--any ideas?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> sasa,  for the 5th time.. the insgtaller WILL use the unallocated space.. and partition it as it wants. (a / and a swap) then format them. You want at least a little swap., and yes linux can read/write ntfs.
[02:48] <MeRodent> SAM_theman, you could try being a bit more specific
[02:48] <pav> !compillinh
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compillinh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <firu1> doug_: Are that MP3 a VBR?
[02:48] <pav> !compilling
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compilling - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <doug_> Dr_willis,  its the ones i play the most on one or dif palyers Dr_willis  its also the same ones i sent to someone else they play fine for thm just not me
[02:48] <doug_> firul just mp3
[02:48] <dalani33> My problem is I cant get my user to run scripts--any ideas? anyone?
[02:49] <sasa> sweet...you rock Dr_willis
[02:49] <Dr_willis> doug_,  sounds lie what firu1  said.. some sort of vbr encoding used when makign the mp3's try converting them back to wav and playign them again.
[02:49] <pav> !compiling panosru
[02:49] <cchanc1> al of my xorg stuff is installed
[02:49] <SAM_theman> MeRodent, Hey man. I am on ubuntu 64 bit "7.04" and am having trouble installing my nvidia drivers for my 6600GT
[02:49] <firu1> doug: Are the encoded with fixed or variabile bitrate?
[02:49] <Opethic> firu1: Okay, its installing...
[02:49] <doug_> firu1,  and Dr_willis  i have done that same thing
[02:49] <pav> pansoru: how did u install the feature
[02:49] <doug_> firul i sorry got no idea
[02:49] <Zemus> Every single time I start ubuntu, I have to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to enable wifi -- I'm sure I can circumnavigate this by adding modprobe ndiswrapper one of the startup processes, but is there a way to make ndiswrapper the default setting for wireless activity?
[02:50] <panosru> pav, bash: !compiling: event not found
[02:50] <firu1> Opethic: i'm installing too ... Just to see with my own eyes ...
[02:50] <jamison> i was able to run the nvidia driver installation succesfully but when i reboot i get this error "System runs in a graphical failsafe mode.  In most cases the detection of your graphics hardware failed. To use all features of your graphics card and screen(s) you have to configure the hardware manually."
[02:50] <doug_> firul some i got off bearshare and cd's
[02:50] <Orange_Tea> dr_willis i already install in vmware server but where can i start it up? I can't find it?
[02:50] <jamison> any ideas?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Orange_Tea,  open up a terminal type 'vmware' hit enter. :) ya should get the gui to it.
[02:50] <Opethic> firu1: I checked my sources.list and I don't see a "Medibuntu" anywhere though.. I don't know where it added it
[02:50] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[02:50] <ivan> how can i make all my ubuntu settings go back to default??
[02:51] <dalani33> Zemus run a script at startup
[02:51] <pav> panosru did u use the terminal to install the feature
[02:51] <_cerberus_> does anyone know where I can find a good tut on creating a thin client if I don't have a bootable NIC?
[02:51] <cchanc1> im trying to install Kppp and I run into the error checking for x... configure:error: Can't find x includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths. What is it wanting now?I have looked inn synaptic but nothing
[02:51] <Dr_willis> ivan,    you really should state you are trying to recover some beryl messing up on you.. not just 'all settings to default'
[02:51] <firu1> Opethic: it is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:51] <doug_> Dr_willis,  and firul can u meet me in room #wwed please i am kinda confused in this room  esspecially with the big headach i got
[02:51] <Dr_willis> ivan,  i dont mess with beryl. so cant help ya there.
[02:51] <dalani33> Coded my problem is I cant get my user to run scripts--any ideas? anyone?
[02:52] <wastrel> yup
[02:52] <panosru> pav, well i confused now :P
[02:52] <dalani33> Coded my User account not in sudoers list
[02:52] <firu1> Opehtis: You can delete medibuntu.list from tha directory
[02:52] <speps> hey ... guys!Do you know if i can use existing partition with VirtualBox????Thanks!!!
[02:52] <Opethic> firu1: So after I'm done, I should only delete medibuntu.list and everything's back to normal?
[02:53] <pav> panosru, the application said u need a feature. u said that you downloaded this feature. did u install it afterward?
[02:53] <ivan> Dr_Willis, iok thanks but i fucked up all my ubuntu i wanna reinstall it but i wanna do it from a terminal or something like that
[02:53] <Dr_willis> ivan,  the next release is due out in 3 weeks or so also.. :)
[02:53] <ivan> Dr_Willis, cooola t5hanks illl be waiting!
[02:54] <panosru> pav, no because it need eclipse europa 3.3 and i don't know how to install it :/
[02:54] <cchanc1> !x
[02:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:54] <cchanc1> !x includes
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x includes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <pav> panosru you probably dont need such a thing. what is ur main goal
[02:54] <wastrel> dalani33:  add your user to the admin group
[02:55] <wastrel> (for sudo access)
[02:55] <dalani33> wastrel wouldn't that compromise security
[02:55] <panosru> pav, i just need eclipse IDE with Zend PDT to code PHP
[02:55] <dalani33> I just want my user torun his scripts
[02:55] <Zemus> Every single time I start ubuntu, I have to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to enable wifi -- I'm sure I can circumnavigate this by adding modprobe ndiswrapper one of the startup processes, but is there a way to make ndiswrapper the default setting for wireless activity?
[02:55] <pav> panosru ok so have u installed eclipse?
[02:55] <cchanc1> no one actuly knows what he x includes are?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  rc.local can load the module, or ya can add the module to the auto load modules list
[02:56] <aguitel> anyone use administration of energy in a laptop ?
[02:56] <panosru> pav, yes i  have installed from Applications -> Add/Remove and then i tried to install PDT through eclipse but i could not install it and they told me that i have old version of eclipse
[02:56] <AnRkey> how do i get VLC to run in single instance mode, I am gonna freak if i don't ge this right
[02:56] <cchanc1> come one please
[02:57] <progek> can someone help me with DVD playback? I have installed all the codecs from each howto I've located already. I also have libdvdcss2 version 1.2.9-2 (medibuntu) installed. When I open a movie it starts to play until it gets to the main chapter, then I get 'are you trying to watch a movie without libdvdcss?' or something similar. I've tried mplayer vlc and totem-xine :(
[02:57] <MeRodent> Zemus, sudo depmod -a
[02:57] <ari_stress> morning
[02:57] <cchanc1> cchanc1 to #ubuntu cchanc1 to #ubuntu anyone read?
[02:57] <progek> I've also tried several movies
[02:57] <AnRkey> progek, all dvd's or just one?
[02:57] <progek> all of them
[02:57] <AnRkey> hmm
[02:58] <pav> panosru: this might help http://www.ossgeeks.co.uk/?p=87
[02:58] <progek> after the fbi warnings of copyright etc, they stop
[02:58] <dalani33> wastrel?
[02:58] <cchanc1> #ubuntu?
[02:58] <Coded1> im haing alot of problems with amarok, when I load it and tell it where my music is it will sit for over an hour 'processing' and never finish i have about 20GB of mp3's on a UltraATA Seagate, P4 2.53 and 512MB Pc1066, the machine doesnt really seem like its stressing out evreything else works fine but I can never get the play list to populate
[02:58] <panosru> pav, thanks!!! I will check it now!! :D
[02:59] <pav> does anyone know how to change ipod's permissions
[02:59] <Coded1> if i try to play a particular mp3 direcly it just sais "populating playlist" and crashes
[02:59] <Zemus> MeRodent, sudo depmod -a just checks for errors, and is irrelevant to what I need
[02:59] <inazad> hi there, I have followed the wiki for installing a LAMP Server but when I'm trying to open a php page, it's blank or it's tell me to download it
[02:59] <Zemus> Dr_willis, how do I add the module to the auto load modules list? Where is rc.local located, and how do I edit it? Thanks for your help :)
[03:00] <Coded1> im running a fresh install of fiesty
[03:00] <Opethic> Coded1: Hrm, I have about 40GB, and it took only a few minutes to populate the playlist.
[03:00] <dalani33> Can anyone run scripts from a non-root user account??
[03:00] <pav> dalani33 yes with sudo
[03:00] <frostburn> inzion, sounds like you don't have the php module running
[03:00] <pike_> inazad: might ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[03:00] <firu1>  Opethic: What happened with Acroread?
[03:00] <dalani33> pav with root admin passwrd?
[03:00] <pav> dalani33 yes
[03:00] <Opethic> firu1: Still downloading
[03:01] <Coded1> dalani33: as long as they have access to bash or some other intrepter availible to the user
[03:01] <inazad> pike_, ok
[03:01] <frostburn> inzion, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  check troubleshooting section
[03:01] <frostburn> er inazad
[03:01] <dalani33> Coded tried it doesn't work: even with user ~/bin
[03:01] <acecase> hello
[03:02] <inazad> frostburn, ok
[03:02] <frostburn> dalani33, su?
[03:02] <acecase> what is the best way to save the state of my ubuntu partition so I can restore it later?
[03:02] <cchanc1> im trying to install Kppp and I run into the error checking for x... configure:error: Can't find x includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths. What is it wanting now?I have looked inn synaptic but nothing
[03:02] <dalani33> su same thing as sudo?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> dalani33,  not really.
[03:02] <Coded1> dalani33: what happens when you type in
[03:02] <Coded1> 'bash'
[03:02] <Coded1> ?
[03:03] <pike_> acecase: i typically just use dd and pipe it to gz but.. im sure there are utilites that may be more appropriate
[03:03] <frostburn> dalani33, not exactly man su =P
[03:03] <pav> dalani33 not exactly
[03:03] <pike_> acecase: what stuff do you want to backup? just configs and installed packages?
[03:03] <LordFDisk> Ello everyone again, I ask for help on how to get out of X Windows ... and I was told to try Ctrl, Alt F1 to go out and F7 well I just can't seem to get just to the command line. Nvidia says that I'm still running X server ... Any Idea on how to get past?
[03:03] <dalani33> nothing
[03:03] <acecase> pike_, yeah
[03:03] <Coded1> dalani33: then it works
[03:03] <Coded1> :)
[03:03] <Pelo> LordFDisk, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:04] <pike_> LordFDisk: alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 will take you to terminal. alt-f7 will then take you back to the gui
[03:04] <MeRodent> Zemus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 section 3.7
[03:04] <frostburn> Pelo, and to get it running again, use start
[03:04] <acecase> pike_, i can google dd and probably find what I need. I just have never done it so didn't know where to start. Basically I will be making something like a gentoo snapshot with dd rite?
[03:04] <Pelo> frostburn,  donT, tell me tell LordFDisk
[03:04] <Falstiu1> LordFDisk: try the other alt key
[03:05] <Coded1> if your script fails it might be because it is accessing something it doesnt have access to or your script shebang line is incorrect, the first line must be "!#/bin/bash"
[03:05] <Falstiu1> LordFDisk: and hold all three (ctrl+alt+f1) at the same time.  Alt+f7 to get back
[03:05] <cchanc1> UBUNTU!!!!!!
[03:05] <dalani33> su script = Unknown id: bin/download.sh
[03:05] <pike_> acecase: you can have dpkg generate a file that is basically a list of instaled packages. and then you can point to that file on another system to automatically install everything in that list. then youd just need to backup /etc directory. and of course your /home
[03:05] <pike_> !backup | acecase
[03:05] <ubotu> acecase: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:05] <Pelo> cchanc1, just ask a question don'T spam the channel
[03:05] <pike_> i was hoping that would work.. and it did :)
[03:05] <acecase> pike_, thank you :)
[03:05] <bruenig> Coded1, #! not !#
[03:06] <Coded1> oops
[03:06] <Opethic> !cloning
[03:06] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[03:06] <cchanc1> I ASKED MY DAMN QUESTION THAT'S THE FIRST RESPONSE IN 30 Minutes   I already asked about 5 times
[03:06] <bruenig> !gtfo | cchanc1
[03:06] <ubotu> cchanc1: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:06] <cchanc1> omg
[03:06] <firu1> Opethic: It's working for me ...
[03:06] <bruenig> !attitude | cchanc1
[03:06] <ubotu> cchanc1: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:06] <bruenig> !sorry | cchanc1
[03:06] <ubotu> cchanc1: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[03:06] <cchanc1> I know
[03:06] <cchanc1> I know
[03:06] <Dr_willis> or else i saw it and had no   answer.
[03:06] <Opethic> firu1: I'm still downloading it... Should be over in a few minutes
[03:07] <Pelo> cchanc1,  this is a busy channel  the only thing you can do is restate your question periodicaly, the helpers here are just users , deosnt, mean they can answer you
[03:07] <acecase> Opethic, thanks
[03:07] <Dr_willis> theres only 1000+ people in here. :)
[03:07] <frostburn> What is the default daemon for IR devices?
[03:07] <doug_> ok whn i try play a mp3 with xmms i get this poped up please check that: your sound card is configured properly you have the correct output plug in no other program is blocking the soundcard how do i check for all those?
[03:07] <cchanc1> well I just got pissed because I asked 5 times and no responces or indications that anyone heard me
[03:07] <Coded1> frostburn: lirc
[03:07] <firu1> Opethic: Ok, I just wanted to say that it is working for me ... And now, deinstall ... ;)
[03:07] <Opethic> 1 op and 1111 users, thats cool :)
[03:07] <Pelo> Dr_willis, yeah I know we'Re loosing members like leafs in automne
[03:07] <progek> alright, trying to play my dvd from running totem in terminal I get 'Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB (0x000002e7)!!
[03:08] <progek> I have libdvdcss2 installed
[03:08] <LordFDisk> 1 - 6 <- will one kill x windows to give me just the command line without x server or windows running? ... well I'll try 1-6 Thank you all for your help and time.
[03:08] <frostburn> Coded1, it's weird, it's not installed now, but my remote was working previously
[03:08] <Dr_willis> 1000 people all saying . 'sorry i dont know cchanc1 ' is not a good thing. :)
[03:08] <bruenig> cchanc1, when no one hears you, if you would like you can just think in your head 1111 "I don't knows" and that way you can get the effect and we don't have to spam the channel, everyone wins
[03:08] <cchanc1> there are 760 pepl in #debian and they answered right off
[03:08] <Zemus> thanks MeRodent :)
[03:08] <Dr_willis> cchanc1,  good for them.
[03:08] <Opethic> firu1: I hope I'm that lucky too
[03:08] <acecase> pike_, Opethic, Thank you both again. I have some reading to do :) you guys have a good one.
[03:08] <wastrel> LordFDisk:  it doesn't kill x-windows
[03:08] <Pelo> doug_,  ther is a #xmms channel
[03:08] <bruenig> cchanc1, 1110 responses is not practical unfortunately, as central as you are to this world and its remaining to rotate, we do have to sometimes make exceptions
[03:08] <MeRodent> Zemus, I knew I had the answer somewhere. Just a bit further on. :)
[03:08] <cchanc1> I should have know
[03:09] <Coded1> frostburn: was working?  some programs come with their own little install of LIRC that they unload when the program exits
[03:09] <Zemus> :)
[03:09] <Zemus> lol
[03:09] <doug_> Pelo,  thanks
[03:09] <Zemus> Dr_willis, the question was
[03:09] <Zemus> "Dr_willis, how do I add the module to the auto load modules list? Where is rc.local located, and how do I edit it? Thanks for your help :)"
[03:09] <LordFDisk> I need to kill the X Windows do install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.11-pkg2. run file
[03:09] <cchanc1> well, I wanted some one to respond and I got it
[03:09] <cchanc1> :P :)
[03:09] <Zemus> and before that, it was  "Every single time I start ubuntu, I have to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to enable wifi -- I'm sure I can circumnavigate this by adding modprobe ndiswrapper one of the startup processes, but is there a way to make ndiswrapper the default setting for wireless activity?"
[03:09] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  don'T feel bad since I've rejoined he hasn't actualy asked on
[03:09] <Coded1> any news yet on ati drivers ?
[03:09] <bruenig> cchanc1, just do "for x in $(seq 1108); do echo "I don't know"; done
[03:10] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  useing 'locate rc.local' will answer the 2nd part. :) in /etc/ somewhere is the modules list. You only need to do one or the other.
[03:10] <dalani33>  sudo ~/bin/my-script.sh Password: Sorry, try again.
[03:10] <bruenig> cchanc1, then you can feel better
[03:10] <frostburn> Coded1, aye, something got broken, i'll have to do some digging
[03:10] <pike_> LordFDisk: i usually use the nvidia installer too but its not ideal  you know you can just install the nvidia-glx package right?
[03:10] <cchanc1> yeah really
[03:10] <Dr_willis> Zemus,   /etc/rc.local  befor the 'exit' command is where you want your commands to go. that will be the easiest way to do it.
[03:10] <Coded1> i heard the specs were released last week
[03:10] <LordFDisk> nope
[03:10] <wastrel> cchanc1:  did you get an answer to your question?
[03:10] <cchanc1> not
[03:10] <wastrel> install xorg-dev
[03:10] <doug_> Pelo,  i just asked if no one answers i am going ot take ur computer and u take mine
[03:10] <Zemus> Dr_willis, the question has been answered, but thank you ;)
[03:10] <Pelo> dalani33, linux is case sensitive , make sure you are typing the password correctly
[03:10] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  Darn it! ;0
[03:10] <MeRodent> LordFDisk, do you want a step by step guide on installing?
[03:10] <cchanc1> heh, I got to download it
[03:11] <Zemus> Dr_willis, hehehe
[03:11] <pike_> LordFDisk:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <dalani33> I did enter it with proper case
[03:11] <LordFDisk> lol pleease
[03:11] <dalani33> I checked thanx
[03:11] <cchanc1> wait
[03:11] <Zemus> does .d at the end of something generally mean it's to do with autostart options?
[03:11] <cchanc1> I have that installed
[03:11] <Pelo> doug_, not everychannel is as well attended as this one,  you can also check the xmms website for faq and forum or google or use the ubuntuforums.org to look for answers
[03:11] <firu1> Zemus: .d usually meand directory
[03:12] <Pelo> doug_, also check in the xmms preferences to make sure you have tthe correct sound device selected
[03:12] <cchanc1> I have xorg_dev installed
[03:12] <doug_> Pelo,  i am now lol but as i said if no answer u owe me ur computer eh
[03:12] <Zemus> ...
[03:12] <MeRodent> LordFDisk, accept the file. It's only a text file on how to install the driver.
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Zemus,   not that i am aware of.. linux has some very detailed 'init'/startup/ scripts/services/features. :) its quite an interesting topic.
[03:12] <cchanc1> and I re tried and still the same error
[03:12] <Zemus> firu1, uh, ok. Why are there so many directories without .d, then? That doesn't seem to make any sense :(
[03:12] <LordFDisk> ok
[03:12] <wastrel> cchanc1:  maybe xserver-xorg-dev
[03:12] <Taos> anybody have ldap experience?
[03:12] <firu1> Zemus: It's a Debian way ...
[03:12] <pike_> LordFDisk: be aware if you use the .run file you will have to redo it whenever you run update and it installs a new kernel
[03:12] <MeRodent> pike_, but at least it works.
[03:13] <doug_> Dr_willis,  u rdy to take my prob on still?
[03:13] <firu1> Zemus: Lots of init.d ... for different runlevels ...
[03:13] <cchanc1> have it
[03:13] <Pelo> Taos,  just ask a quesiton  even if we donT' have ldap experience we might be able to help
[03:13] <pike_> yeah i dont use the package either but..its good to try it first
[03:13] <cchanc1> xserver-xorg-dev isinstalld
[03:13] <Taos> Pelo: I'm hoping so, it's an odd behavior in Gutsy
[03:14] <LordFDisk> ok .. I just was a really nice gui with ubuntu ... was running Mandriva
[03:14] <Pelo> Taos, for guestion about gutsy ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:14] <Zemus> How do you pronounce "|"?
[03:14] <cchanc1> xlibs-dev?
[03:14] <IndyLucian> i cannot get my 1394 connection to work at all. im trying to get my dv camera tape to my computer
[03:14] <frostburn> Zemus, bar, pipe
[03:14] <MeRodent> zemd, pipe
[03:14] <firu1> Zemus: PIPE
[03:14] <wastrel> sure
[03:14] <cchanc1> nope
[03:14] <MeRodent> Zemus, even
[03:14] <cchanc1> wastrel, nothn
[03:14] <Zemus> thanks guys
[03:14] <LordFDisk> And to install beta driver for that as well
[03:14] <kwtm> Is there a command-line program to view a graphics file (such as a *.jpg) on an X-terminal?  I thought there was a program called "xv", and I type "xv MyPhoto.jpg" and a window would pop up showing the JPEG file.  Any similar program available?
[03:14] <inazad> frostburn, ok
[03:14] <IndyLucian> so does anyone have any experience with 1394 / DV connections
[03:14] <inazad> hi there, I have followed the wiki for installing a LAMP Server but when I'm trying to open a php page, it's blank or it's tell me to download it
[03:15] <fujin> inazad: you need to configure the mimetype handler in apache
[03:15] <dalani33> Anyone user account run script WITHOUT typing sudo root passwrd???
[03:15] <wastrel> pastebin your error
[03:15] <wastrel> cchanc1:  ^^^
[03:15] <cchanc1> yeah
[03:15] <cchanc1> right
[03:15] <dalani33> Anyone's?
[03:15] <inazad> fujin, how..
[03:15] <kwtm> Zemus: "|" the character is "bar", but the operation itself is "pipe".  Like "~" is "tilde" but the operation is "bitwise NOT".
[03:15] <cchanc1> I got to copy 100 lines from one pc to another
[03:15] <pike_> dalani33: if you can use bash you can run a bash script
[03:15] <fujin> I'm not going to spoon feed youm, sorry.
[03:15] <cchanc1> since the one in question is not online DUE to the error
[03:16] <fujin> s/youm/you/
[03:16] <Pelo> dalani33,  change the file permission to execute
[03:16] <Extravert> hello
[03:16] <Taos> I've installed a fresh gutsy t5 from cd and tried to set up an ldap client.  When I reboot the machine, I get an infinite loop on boot of not being able to connect to my ldap server
[03:16] <dalani33> Pelo! that's it!
[03:16] <firu1> dalani33: chroot or chmod it?
[03:16] <Pelo> dalani33, sudo chmod 777 flile
[03:16] <dalani33> hold on ill check
[03:16] <Taos> my suspicion is, the network is not up yet so it just hangs there trying to find an ldap servier
[03:16] <dalani33> ok Pelo---mark this solved--luck y'all
[03:16] <pike_> dalani33: if ya type 'ls -l' youll see if it has the 'x' executable bit set if not just 'chmod +x file.sh' and then ls -l again it should show x now
[03:16] <kwtm> dalani33: You can also run a script with the command "source MyScript.sh" (or whatever the script file name is) or ". MyScript.sh" (the dot is synonymous with the "source" command).
[03:17] <Pelo> Taos,  ask in #ubuntu+1 for gusty questions
[03:17] <firu1> dalani: I suggest chmod 755 ...
[03:17] <inazad> fujin, how. ?
[03:17] <fujin> die in a fire
[03:17] <Zemus> it is my belief that lean cuisine meals enter your stomach, and then evaporate.
[03:17] <inazad> fujin, ?
[03:17] <kwtm> Anyone?  What's a good command-line program to display a graphics file?
[03:18] <pike_> kwtm: in frame buffer?
[03:18] <fujin> read the documentation
[03:18] <Taos> sorry about that, question was posted there now
[03:18] <Pelo> kwtm,  I thnk mplayer does it
[03:18] <kwtm> pike_: Anything.  I just want to see a graphics file without using the mouse.
[03:18] <pike_> kwtm: i use fbi
[03:18] <kwtm> Pelo: Oh, mplayer shows graphics?  I'll try it.
[03:18] <OrTigaS> hi! i just installed dapper drake to external usb hd. my problem is i cant connect to internet but can see other network machine in our ofc. anny idea why i cant use internet? when i try to connect my lan cable to windows machine it connect to internet. :)
[03:18] <wastrel> kwtm:  install imagemagick, use "display"
[03:18] <Pelo> kwtm, I think I'm not sure
[03:19] <firu1> kwtm: zgv?
[03:19] <wastrel> fyi, everyone should install imagemagick, it's good stuff
[03:19] <pike_> imagemagick is awesome. one liners to convert files and such to grub images etc
[03:19] <xfreakk> Hi can anyone help me with snort
[03:19] <Pelo> OrTigaS, usb modem ?
[03:20] <kwtm> wastrel: I have imagemagick already.  Is there a "display" command?  I didn't know that.
[03:20] <kwtm> Pelo: I tried mplayer, but it didn't work.
[03:20] <gnutron> kwtm - in an xterm type gthumb /image/whatever  [apt-get install gthumb]   fyi :) good program.
[03:20] <Muchmusic> Hi
[03:20] <wastrel> display foo.jpg   or whatever
[03:20] <xfreakk> Anyone know about snort
[03:21] <Pelo> xfreakk, try asking a specific quesiton instead
[03:21] <cchanc1> wasterel http://pastebin.com/m532496d6
[03:21] <Opethic> firu1: Its working, thanks :)
[03:21] <wastrel> cchanc1:  aren't you glad you saved a floppy :] 
[03:21] <kwtm> firu1: Will check out zgv.  That, and the fbi that pike_ suggested sounds useful, but more for framebuffer.  I'll try stuff that works with X first, before resorting to framebuffer.
[03:21] <Opethic> firu1: How do I go about making it the default app for viewing PDF files?
[03:21] <cchanc1> or USB stick
[03:21] <incognito77> can someone point me to some hard disc repair tools for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Pelo> g'ngiht folks
[03:21] <firu1> Opethic: Ouch ... Let me see ...
[03:22] <kwtm> gnutron: gthumb?  Okay, will try that --I'm actually using the KDE desktop (Kubuntu) but do have the GNOME libraries and GTK installed since I run Gnucash, Abiword, etc., so I'll try that.
[03:22] <kwtm> But I think I'll try the display command that wastrel suggested first, because I already have imagemagick installed.
[03:22] <xfreakk> does anyone know why when i try to execute snort it says initialiing Network Interface eth0 ERROR: OpenPcap() device eth0 open: socket: operation not permitted....Fatal Error, Quitting
[03:23] <doctormo_> hey all
[03:23] <Zemus> sup doctormo_
[03:23] <wastrel> cchanc1:  and you have /usr/include/X11/  and it's populated with all the friendly .h header files?
[03:23] <SAM_theman> MeRodent, yo man
[03:23] <SAM_theman> MeRodent, yo the man
[03:23] <doctormo_> I'm trying to set up a RTL8180L PCMCIA card with WPA... which means I have to use ndiswrapper
[03:23] <firu1> Opethic: try follow http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~djm/ubuntu/feisty/#acroread
[03:23] <SAM_theman> MeRodent, It worked
[03:23] <wastrel> cchanc1:  at this point i'd be curious as to what exactly the configure script is looking for
[03:23] <doctormo_> the problem is that when it's using the ndiswrapper it doesn't want to accept an essid
[03:24] <kwtm> wastrel: Wow!  "display" worked, very nicely!  Thanks for the tip.  I love ImageMagick, myself.
[03:24] <sandy> i need to install tapioca in gusty can anyone help me
[03:24] <wastrel> yay <3
[03:24] <cchanc1> yes wastrel I do
[03:24] <incognito77> can someone point me to some hard disc repair tools for Ubuntu?
[03:24] <xfreakk> does anyone know why when i try to execute snort it says initialiing Network Interface eth0 ERROR: OpenPcap() device eth0 open: socket: operation not permitted....Fatal Error, Quitting
[03:25] <daaku> anyone have hardware recommendations for a small web-server/routers/wireless basestation? (to run ubuntu)
[03:25] <frostburn> incognito77, define repair tools? other than fsck
[03:25] <sandy> i need to install tapioca in gusty can anyone help me
[03:25] <incognito77> frostburn: my HDD is really screwed up - Gparted can't do anything with it
[03:25] <pike_> daaku: if i were doing that id just run debian
[03:25] <cchanc1> maby it be better to share this connection that im on with the ubuntu compuiter   (Windows -> Linux
[03:26] <doctormo_> ok I'm going offline to try it again since I can't have botht he eth and wlan plugged in at the same time
[03:26] <sandy> anyone help me in installing tapioca in gusty ubuntu
[03:26] <Opethic> firu1: Cool, thanks. I'll use this info to figure out how to the change the default app for other files too. :)
[03:27] <frostburn> sandy, #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <Llivavin> Can anyone tell me how i can get all sound to go though my usb headset?
[03:27] <frostburn> incognito77, are you running gparted from the partition you're changing?
[03:28] <incognito77> frostburn: I'm in a live Feisty session
[03:28] <daaku> pike_: i find the ubuntu sid snapshots for the server stuff more stable than sid itself (and sarge is too slow for me)
[03:28] <frostburn> incognito77, the live gparted sucks on the ubuntu cd
[03:28] <frostburn> i made a usb key with the latest gparted image
[03:29] <daaku> pike_: but this is not personal stuff, so i open to experimenting
[03:29] <pike_> daaku: ok.  if youre going that route your prob right. i just think stable when i think server. id prob use woody or something ;p
[03:29] <daaku> pike_: _cant type_ - this is personal stuff, so i'm open to experimeting
[03:29] <incognito77> frostburn: do you know of any good HDD repair tools?
[03:30] <frostburn> incognito77, newegg.com =P   if you start getting any errors on a disk it's a sign of imminent failure
[03:30] <maestrojed> I have a ubuntu feisty desktop box that is running as a test web server (LAMP).  Now I added a second HD which I would like to share amongst my office computers (both windows and mac), kind of as a network drive.  Is installing/running SAMBA the best way to go about this?
[03:30] <frostburn> incognito77, did you run fsck first?
[03:30] <SAM_theman> Anyone of u use greasmonkey?
[03:30] <SAM_theman> for foxnews.com ?
[03:30] <Zemus> Ah, fantastic... it's really working well now :)
[03:30] <wastrel> maestrojed:  or export it as a nfs drive.
[03:30] <daaku> pike_: i have a base ubuntu system with most critical apps custom build (use a cool little script called tinypkg to manage them)
[03:30] <wastrel> (can windows mount nfs?
[03:30] <wastrel> )
[03:31] <incognito77> frostburn: that HDD has varying file systems
[03:31] <frostburn> fsck works with most everything but ntfs,  if you want an ntfs checker, you're barking up the wrong tree
[03:32] <incognito77> hmmm ok
[03:32] <SAM_theman> brb
[03:32] <Zemus> How do I make compiz my default composite manager?
[03:32] <kwtm> wastrel: Holy ****, this "display" program does *everything*!  Why do I even bother with Gwenview or Konqueror?  (sorry, just waxing effusive about ImageMagick.  Okay, I'll leave now. :) )
[03:32] <daaku> i think there's some ntfs checker in the systemrescue live cd
[03:33] <Zemus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeByDefault <-- nvm, got it
[03:33] <maestrojed> wastrel: is one better or easier then the other?
[03:34] <wolflord> Hello everyone, how do you kill a VNC session ??
[03:34] <wastrel> maestrojed:  samba is easier for your users, nfs is easier for you :] 
[03:34] <Evanlec> !nfs
[03:34] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:34] <pike_> wolflord: i typically vncserver -kill :1  or whatever port
[03:35] <maestrojed> wastrel: okay thanks.  I think I will do SAMBA.  :)
[03:35] <wolflord> do you need to put in the IP that you are trying to kill ??
[03:35] <arooni-mobile> hey folks; i have a contextual menu key on my laptop.... when i push it, nothing happens.  how can i fix this (t61 laptop)
[03:35] <wolflord> or just the port
[03:35] <arooni-mobile> gutsy
[03:35] <fulat2k> hi folks, i installed xubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu installation and would like to remove all xubuntu-desktop related packages.  apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop doesn't do that.  is there any command i can use?
[03:35] <cchance> How do I set the gateway and Name Servers in ubuntu
[03:36] <Zemus> That link didn't seem to help me, does anyone know how to assign a default composite manager?
[03:36] <cchance> via terminal preferably
[03:36] <ex_> hmm
[03:36] <ex_> how do i join other channels /j or /join isn't working in xchat
[03:36] <Dr_willis> ex_,  it should.
[03:36] <Dr_willis>  /join #himom
[03:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:36] <ex_> ah you have to include # sign  :)
[03:36] <ex_> not like windows based irc :P
[03:37] <Dr_willis> I use xchat in windows. :)
[03:37] <ex_> hix script for me haha
[03:37] <ex_> CS ALL THE WAY :)
[03:37] <Vulto> Dr_willis, why would you use windows
[03:37] <hmhowie> ah, ubuntu! blessed sanity!
[03:37] <Zemus> That link didn't seem to help me, does anyone know how to assign a default composite manager?
[03:38] <ex_> I have to say
[03:38] <Sonicadvance1> Okay, I'm having a problem with partitioning my device. when I plug it in, it says that it can't read the superblock. Any way to rectify this problem? I don't mind formating it
[03:38] <BernieMac> anyone know why my music files will suddenly not play anymore??
[03:38] <ex_> I have tried alot of distributions and I like debian based ones the most
[03:38] <ex_> Red Hat is okay, I just find debian makes more sense
[03:38] <hmhowie> Sonicadvance1: i find when a harddrive or similar is really playing up, i just pipe some /dev/urandom on to it
[03:38] <Dr_willis> Vulto,  how else can i test out spyware and viruses!
[03:38] <ckin2001> ex_, use yum for a week after using apt-get, and you won't say that :p
[03:39] <Vulto> Dr_willis, haha good one :>
[03:39] <Llivavin> Can some one tell me how to get the sound on mplayer to go though my usb headset?
[03:39] <Zemus> That link didn't seem to help me, does anyone know how to assign a default composite manager?
[03:40] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  check the forums yet?
[03:40] <wolflord> ok that didnt work, ok here is what its doing and maybe someone can help
[03:40] <BMT> hellohello
[03:41] <Evanlec> can u guys believe distrowatch is under ddos attack? lol
[03:41] <hmhowie> Llivavin: possibilities: commandline option for mplayer, configuration file for mplayer
[03:41] <Zemus> Dr_willis, yes, briefly, but I'm probably looking in the wrong places. 0 search results every times. Link?
[03:41] <panosru> pav, didn't work :(
[03:41] <Llivavin> hmhowie Ether or?
[03:41] <wolflord> when I try and vnc to my local machine from my Ubuntu server, it looks like its opening multible connections and it freezes up.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  no idea. i dont mess with eyecandy :)
[03:41] <Zemus> Dr_willis, thanks... :/
[03:41] <wolflord> I can close the boxes but. I dont know why its doing that
[03:42] <hmhowie> Llivavin: i'd start with the command line options :)
[03:42] <gnutron> Zemus - check out and create your own script, like beryl etc in this dir: /usr/share/xsessions/
[03:42] <hmhowie> Llivavin: however, i'm not on my linux box atm, so i can't help :(
[03:43] <Llivavin> Also anyone know what it means when to many video packets in buffer error means?
[03:43] <progek> I finally got VLC to play DVD movies but now the video looks distorted and the color is all off during playback. Any ideas?
[03:43] <gnutron> Zemus - log in your login screen choose that session. [sorry for extra line feed there] 
[03:43] <Llivavin> VLC = bad
[03:43] <Zemus> gnutron, I'm sure there's a much easier way to assign a default than script writing -- I'll check out the link anyway, though. Thanks. :)
[03:43] <progek> well, tried mplayer, totem, ogle and kaffeine with codecs + libdvdcss2
[03:43] <progek> nothing
[03:44] <Dr_willis> Zemus,  i think it might be better to have the option to not use it by default. :) some programs may have issues.
[03:44] <hmhowie> why is vlc bad, Llivavin?
[03:44] <firu1> VLC is quite good player ... Used it under Win and under Linux, and I'm satisfied ...
[03:44] <progek> vlc has always worked fine for me
[03:44] <progek> just can't get dvds to play right
[03:44] <hmhowie> progek: are we just talking image ratio here?
[03:44] <cchance> LOL
[03:44] <cchance> YEAH
[03:44] <Zemus> gnutron, .......... the 'login screen', gdm, doesn't choose your composite manager, it chooses gnome / xgl / kde and so on. Not compiz-fusion / beryl / metacity etc.
[03:44] <progek> hmhowie basically, it looks like multi colored tiles plotted over my video
[03:45] <progek> which skip around
[03:45] <BMT> hello to all
[03:45] <hmhowie> mplayer does have some cool capabilities. it can write to the framebuffer directly, so you can watch videos from the virtual consoles :)
[03:45] <Sonicadvance1> eh, hmhowie I have no idea what you told me to do
[03:45] <Green_Tea> If I want to use vmware do i have to go in to the website directly download and install from there ?
[03:45] <firu1> VLS play DVD quite well, when ecryption is removed and DVD is backuped to HDD ;)
[03:45] <firu1> VLS=VLC
[03:45] <BMT> i am finally using a irc client on my linux machine..how come i can not see all the people who are logged into this "room"
[03:45] <BMT> i am using XChat
[03:45] <gnutron> zemus - perhaps i forgot a step but it works for me if i understand correctly
[03:46] <Dr_willis> BMT,  seeing them where?
[03:46] <hmhowie> Sonicadvance1: my advice is: start a console, enter "man mplayer" and see if there's something about an audio device
[03:46] <progek> No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[03:46] <frostburn> BMT, use other xchat client, the gnome version is lacking
[03:46] <Zemus> gnutron, compiz-fusion is not an option in gdm. Hush. ;)
[03:46] <progek> I get that running vlc
[03:46] <BMT> so i should be using the KDE version ?
[03:46] <Green_Tea> Dr_willis If I want to use vmware do i have to go in to the website directly download and install from there ?
[03:46] <Llivavin> Or, Go get something other then xchat?
[03:47] <tds5016> can someone tell me how to uninstall java, and go to the newest version?
[03:47] <Llivavin> xchat's GUI is horridly coded D:
[03:47] <progek> irssi is cool :)
[03:47] <firu1> Pidgin/gaim ...
[03:47] <tds5016> of sun java*
[03:47] <wolflord> ok I tryed it again, and it did the exact same thing again, does anyone have any Ideas
[03:47] <firu1> Spartan interface, but ...
[03:47] <progek> tds5016
[03:47] <hmhowie> Sonicadvance1: but maybe i'm getting ahead of myself here. your usb/headset works for other things, right?
[03:47] <progek> install 6 from repos
[03:47] <BMT> what is a better irc client that has a gui ?
[03:47] <Llivavin> firu1 its called Irssi or w/e
[03:47] <Dr_willis> Green_Tea,  its in the 'comercial' repositories.. but you still need a free serial # from the vmware web site.
[03:47] <progek> the update with
[03:47] <tds5016> Llivavin, then recode it, it's open soruce.
[03:47] <Llivavin> or use wine and mIRC
[03:47] <BMT> i tried bitchx ...too complicated
[03:47] <progek> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:47] <frostburn> BMT, uninstall xchat-gnome and install xchat
[03:47] <tds5016> progek, what's the package called?
[03:47] <progek> apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[03:47] <maestrojed> I want to give my ubuntu box a static IP.  The DCHP server on my modem is not sophisticated and to set a static IP I the computer just need to ask for an IP within the set range.  How can I tell ubuntu which IP to ask for?
[03:48] <tds5016> will that include the sdk's progek
[03:48] <tds5016> ?
[03:48] <BMT> frostburn....i am using xchat.....all i did was "sudo apt-get install xcaht
[03:48] <BMT> xchat
[03:48] <progek> BMT
[03:48] <progek> try irssi
[03:48] <progek> if you like the terminal
[03:48] <Green_Tea> Dr_willis so is there a way around to get vmware ?
[03:48] <Green_Tea> Dr_willis I want to run windowxp in ubuntu
[03:48] <cchance> I did?
[03:48] <progek> tds5016 install sun-java6-jdk
[03:48] <cchance> oh
[03:49] <firu1> Llivavin: You possibly just opened my eyes ...
[03:49] <Dr_willis> Green_Tea,  install vmware server..  and have at it.. it can run xp.
[03:49] <hmhowie> Green_Tea: have you looked at qemu (another virtualisation software)
[03:49] <Dr_willis> Green_Tea,  doing it on my laptop. :)
[03:49] <BMT> is there a xchat for KDE, and if so....can i run in Gnome ?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> for XP - i dont think qemu will do the job.
[03:49] <rettich> why is it not possible, to add a new created user to the group "video" through the "Users and Groups"-Manager?
[03:49] <tds5016> progek, thanks, now how do I set eclipse to use that as the default?
[03:50] <Dr_willis> vmware-server is in the  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main   repository
[03:50] <Pelo> is it possibleto make a symlink that will dispay the content of several other folders ? as if it was one
[03:50] <progek> tds5016 I only used eclipse a few times, but I think there is a setting within the preferences to choose whatever JDK you want to use
[03:50] <Dr_willis> you still need to just go to the vmware site and get a free serial # for it. they jsut want ya to fill in a questionare.
[03:50] <progek> by default it uses gcj
[03:50] <tds5016> there is.
[03:50] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  not with a symlink.
[03:50] <tds5016> but I didn't see it offering.
[03:50] <hmhowie> Pelo: no
[03:50] <progek> which is crap if you work with swing components
[03:50] <progek> also when working with JDBC
[03:51] <firu1> Netbeans?
[03:51] <progek> eclipse
[03:51] <Green_Tea> Dr_willis from synaptic package manager. I did that i mark for install and can't find it anywhere ? I try go terminal and type in vmware
[03:51] <hmhowie> netbeans is cool :)
[03:51] <BMT> i am having a problem with programs that i tried to run..they just disappear as soon as I click on the icon
[03:51] <tds5016> progek, you seem to know java pretty well, can I ask you a quick question in a pm? ##java isn't giving me much or a response as of yet.
[03:51] <Pelo> Green_Tea, open  add / remove  tell me when you are done
[03:51] <Dr_willis> Green_Tea,  you MUST have the  comercial repository enabled..  (then update the package list)
[03:51] <BMT> for example....xine...i have a icon for it....and even when i run it from the menu...it just appears and then disappears
[03:51] <progek> sure
[03:52] <BMT> can any one help ?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Green_Tea,  then search/install it
[03:52] <frostburn> BMT, run it in a terminal and see what the error is
[03:52] <BMT> ok
[03:52] <Green_Tea> Pelo what next
[03:53] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  on the right side of the app just below the title bar there is a drop down list ,  what is it set to ?
[03:53] <BMT> this is what i got : khaime@gateway:~$ xine
[03:53] <BMT> This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5cvs.
[03:53] <BMT> (c) 2000-2006 The xine Team.
[03:53] <BMT> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[03:53] <BMT>   Major opcode of failed request:  141 (XVideo)
[03:53] <BMT>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
[03:53] <BMT>   Serial number of failed request:  2137
[03:53] <BMT>   Current serial number in output stream:  2138
[03:53] <BMT> khaime@gateway:~$
[03:53] <Ashfire908> Every time i try to select an icon for a toolbar item in OpenOffice.org writer, it crashes
[03:53] <Pelo> BMT,  don't paste to the channel
[03:53] <NemesisD> is there any way to forward audio with ssh? i'd like to listen to music in exaile over ssh
[03:53] <BMT> sorry Pelo
[03:53] <Mike22> anyone think there will ever be industry standard multimedia editing/production software for linux? something that would be comparable to commercial packages (Final Cut Studio, Logic Pro, Digital Fusion, 3DS Max, XSI, Shake, etc..)  cause i love everything about linux, but i dont use it because the multimedia editing package are complete garbage.. think that will ever change?
[03:53] <BMT> how else could i have done that...so i know next time ?
[03:53] <progek> nemesisD use scp to transfer
[03:53] <Green_Tea> Pelo i press on it and all open source app?
[03:53] <progek> nm
[03:54] <progek> misread
[03:54] <progek> s
[03:54] <Flannel> NemesisD: Check out something like icecast, to stream audio
[03:54] <BernieMac> anyone know why me Listen music player just stopped playing my music files?
[03:54] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  no all apps , not just open source
[03:54] <hmhowie> Mike22: someday it will change, but that could take a while
[03:54] <frostburn> BMT, use http://rafb.net/paste/ for those
[03:54] <Ashfire908> Every time i try to select an icon for a toolbar item in OpenOffice.org writer, it crashes. what do i do?
[03:54] <cratel> any way to see drive activity as an icon on the screen, say with a gnome applet?
[03:54] <Pelo> Mike22,  I seem to recall that pixar uses linux and open source apps ,
[03:55] <BMT> frostburn, what do i do at that site ?
[03:55] <hmhowie> Pelo: hollywood tends to use a software called 'maya' for the special effects
[03:55] <Green_Tea> Pelo just vmware server?
[03:55] <frostburn> BMT, you can paste your errors and then paste the link here
[03:55] <firu1> cratel: gDesklets?
[03:55] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  did you find it ?
[03:56] <BMT> oh ok
[03:56] <Green_Tea> Pelo yes ^_^
[03:56] <BMT> let me try that
[03:56] <NemesisD> Flannel, would icecast go on the serving machine or the remote one
[03:56] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  did you try change the icon set or something ?
[03:56] <Green_Tea> Pelo just vmware server?
[03:56] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  chek it inad isntall , yes just vmware server you donT' need player
[03:56] <hmhowie> okay everybody. i'm off :)
[03:56] <BMT> ok...here it goest : http://rafb.net/p/Ahsdgm54.html
[03:56] <BMT> goest = goes
[03:57] <cratel> firu1: what applet though?
[03:57] <Pelo> !who | BMT
[03:57] <ubotu> BMT: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:57] <BMT> that is my error when i ran xine in terminal
[03:57] <Green_Tea> Pelo Thx one more thing do i have to install Vmware Tools?
[03:57] <Ashfire908> Pelo, i started it up and it looked like crap cause it had no icons so i tried to set on and it crashed
[03:57] <Flannel> NemesisD: It'd go on the server machine, and it would stream audio to any client listening.  There are a number of clients that can listen ot icecast, on all OSs
[03:57] <anandanbu> I have problem with the xmms player installed in Ubuntu 7.04 as the menu looks empty and here it is http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/6084/screenshotky4.png
[03:57] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  for what ?
[03:57] <jess> Hi all, I'm having trouble getting wireless to work on a Dell inspiron 8200. I followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-415544.html but the package is broken. Can anyone help?
[03:57] <firu1> cratel: I saw one good for your problem, but, tah was days ago ... I can't recall
[03:58] <BMT> the bot says i should use !tab...do i literally type a exclamation point and push the tab button ?
[03:58] <cratel> anandanbu: xmms is outdated. Try audacious.
[03:58] <NemesisD> Flannel, i don't suppose my favorite one exaile can though :(
[03:58] <rlount> BMT, how much memory does gateway have?
[03:58] <Mike22> hmhowie, if a really good, commited development team got together today and started working on linux (open-source) packages comparable to "Adobe, Apple, Autodesk, Maxon" 's software.. is it something that could be done within 4-6 years? (sorry for the strange questions)
[03:58] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  go in synaptic and look for openoffice.org theme or icon see what comes up, I have a feeling that the package may not be installe properly
[03:58] <fainraven> im about to kick my own ass can any one help me :P
[03:58] <frostburn> BMT, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gstreamer/+bug/39050 that looks like it might be related, i'm not sure how much i can help
[03:58] <fulio> can someone help me install a n64 emulator???
[03:58] <BMT> rlount ! 2 gb
[03:58] <Pelo> BMT,   no use !tab in here to get a replay from the bot
[03:58] <rlount> heh.
[03:58] <Pelo> !tab | BMT
[03:58] <ubotu> BMT: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:58] <chuy_max> hey !, what happened with window menu in Konqueror?
[03:58] <jess> The broken package is bcm43xx-fwcutter
[03:58] <Flannel> NemesisD: What do you mean?  You're running exaile on the machine you're sitting at now?  Yeah, it can.
[03:58] <chuy_max> is there a way to put it back there?
[03:58] <anandanbu> cratel: thanks for the info but is there anyway to restore it
[03:58] <Green_Tea> Pelo What is the difference VMWare player vs VMWare Server?
[03:59] <fainraven> ive been trying to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 7.04 for like 5 h now
[03:59] <Ashfire908> pelo: found the problem
[03:59] <BMT> oh that is cool thanks
[03:59] <rlount> BMT, that sucks. frostburn looks to have found your issue...
[03:59] <pavel989> how do i mount my ipod with read/write permissions?
[03:59] <Ashfire908> pelo: faulty icon set.
[03:59] <rlount> bugs can suck, but they do get fixed.
[03:59] <Pelo> Green_Tea, with vmware player you need do have a virtual machine made already, with serveryou can make your own
[03:59] <Pelo> Ashfire908, that'S what I was thinking
[03:59] <fainraven> could any one wisper me and help me install my nvidia drivers on unbuntu feisty fawn
[03:59] <jess> Please, can anyone help with this wireless issue? I'm trying to get my friend off windoze
[04:00] <NemesisD> Flannel, awesome!
[04:00] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i use one i got from art.gnome.org
[04:00] <Pelo> fainraven, start with the restricted drivers in menu > sytem > admin> restricted drivers
[04:00] <jamison> fainraven: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546969&highlight=Restricted+Drivers+Manager+nvidia
[04:00] <firu1> cratel: diskio perhaps ?
[04:00] <Pelo> Ashfire908, you mean now or was that the one that was borken ?
[04:01] <fainraven> when i click on it it says no restricted drivers needed..
[04:01] <jess> is there a proper procedure for troubleshooting broken debian packages?
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i was
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Pelo: mist doesn't work either
[04:01] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  the one that matches the gnome theme icon set is called  industrial if taht's what you want
[04:01] <zenmonk> I am trying to use grep to find files that are writable by all.  I tried ls -l | grep '[w] \{3\}' but it didn't work, what am I doing wrong?
[04:01] <BMT> frostburn, i looked at that link, and don't understand what i am reading
[04:01] <Pelo> Ashfire908, you do realise you need to install them from synaptic first right ?
[04:01] <DjViper> anyone know any good desktop background image sites?
[04:02] <usser> DjViper: kde-look.org
[04:02] <Ashfire908> Pelo ?
[04:02] <cratel> firu1: how do you use gdesklets? I have it installed along with diskio...
[04:02] <frostburn> BMT, it's a bug report, meaning it's not fixed yet
[04:02] <fainraven> Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers. <<--------
[04:02] <fulio> Pelo, i need some help installing a n64 emulator (Mupen64) i also download it from this site  http://mupen64.emulation64.com/down.htm but after i dont understand how to install it. can you help me please? sorry to bug you agn
[04:02] <frostburn> cratel, on amd64?
[04:02] <rlount> DjViper, caedes.net is cool.
[04:02] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  fi you want to use icon themes in OOo you need to install them frist from synaptic ,
[04:02] <fainraven> but i clearly do im so lost
[04:02] <BMT> frostburn, what is the bug...xine is not the only program doing this
[04:02] <rlount> DjViper, or art.gnome.org
[04:02] <cratel> frostburn: no, it's a dual core Intel (MacBook)
[04:02] <Pelo> fulio,  IM a bit busy atm
[04:02] <ali4728> how do we get 4GB ram recognized by feisty? It only shows 3.2GB
[04:02] <JAppleSeed> can anyone recommend an IDS for ubuntu and a tutorial on installing it
[04:03] <fulat2k> hi folks, i installed xubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu installation and would like to remove all xubuntu-desktop related packages.  apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop doesn't do that.  is there any command i can use?
[04:03] <Ashfire908> Pelo: so i can only use icon sets from synapitic for my desktop?
[04:03] <Pelo> fainraven,  I don'T allow private msg talk to me inthe channel
[04:03] <firu1> cratel:join #hold, please
[04:03] <fainraven> oh sorry pelo
[04:03] <Pelo> !nvidia | fainraven
[04:03] <ubotu> fainraven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:03] <fainraven> well here is the deal
[04:03] <fulio> Pelo, alrite i guess i can wait, ill be in the channel
[04:03] <Sonicadvance1> Okay, I'm having a problem with partitioning my device. when I plug it in, it says that it can't read the superblock. Any way to rectify this problem? I don't mind formating it
[04:03] <fainraven> when i try to click on restricted drivers manager i get Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[04:03] <fainraven> but i do need them as for i cant inable any extra effects without geting white screen of death
[04:04] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I think we need to get unconfused here, the icons for the desktop and the icons for OOo are different  ,  there are special packages in synaptic for the OOo icons
[04:04] <fainraven> this chan is busy :o
[04:04] <BMT> is there a way to have created a user...used that login name and password....and decide that you want to create another user......using the same profile and settings as the first user ?
[04:04] <jess> pelo, would you be able to help? trying to get wireless running on a dell inspiron 8200 but the package i need is broken
[04:05] <rlount> fainraven, epic, traffic is epic.
[04:05] <jess> should i submit a ticket? where?
[04:05] <Pelo> !ati > fainraven  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[04:05] <BMT> so that no matter which one i use to login on.....all the seetings and everything is the same ?
[04:05] <Pelo> jess,  I can'T help with wifi
[04:05] <jess> pelo thanx, do you know anyone who can?
[04:05] <Ashfire908> Pelo: then why if i use a different icon theme, OOo's icons break?
[04:05] <hhp21> Hey guys, quick question.. I'm trying to open a file in a program that's on a different connected hard drive.. But it doesn't look like the file browser for the program backs up far enough for me to select that other drive and browse through it. Any ideas?
[04:06] <rlount> jess, which pkg is broken?
[04:06] <Scunizi> BMT, sure, except that once either identity is used and things change, it won't change for the other user.
[04:06] <jess> rlount, bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:06] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  I donT' think it is related
[04:06] <rlount> jess, so a broadcom chipset?
[04:06] <fainraven> I CANT USE restricted driver manager as for i get the msg Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[04:06] <serrs> Anyone know if xen will make it on to Ubuntu/Gutsy x86_64?
[04:06] <Ashfire908> Pelo: well it is-!
[04:06] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  first lets start by getting you a working OOo toolbar icons set , give me a minute
[04:06] <fainraven> if there is a way to change that we might wana start there.
[04:07] <jess> rlount, i think...it's a default inspiron 8200, i'm assuming it's the same
[04:07] <BMT> Scunizi, that is okay..no problem...i want to create another user and just use that user from now on...but i want that new user to take on the settings and characteristics of the first user
[04:07] <jess> rlount, i followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-415544.html
[04:07] <Ashfire908> Pelo: if i use a theme that here is a OOo icon theme for it goes insane
[04:07] <logicalbomb> Can anyone tell me of a way other then iwconfig to set your wifi card into monitor mode?
[04:07] <Ashfire908> *there
[04:07] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  open synpatic and do a search for   openoffice.org style
[04:07] <logicalbomb> because my wifi card with atheros is refusing to set into monitor mode when I use the iwconfig
[04:07] <rlount> jess, ok, how did you find out that the broken pkg is the one you need?
[04:07] <Pelo> Ashfire908, install all the ones you see
[04:07] <whileimhere> Is there a way to test various screen resolutions without risking much?
[04:08] <rlount> jess, looking at link, one sec.
[04:08] <Pelo> Ashfire908, let me know when that part is done
[04:08] <jess> rlount, cool, thanks!
[04:08] <ex_> anyone have wine installed
[04:08] <ex_> can you run ms office through it?
[04:08] <usser> yes
[04:08] <Pelo> ex_, most of us I would think but wine qustions aer better asked in #winehq
[04:08] <fainraven> is any one willing to help me figer this out in a tell ive been trying to figer it out for like 5h :P not that that means much but i just wana get my nvidia driver installed so i can finaly install other crap
[04:08] <darlok> Just bought my son a cheap digital camera, but when connecting it to my computer, I can't access the pictures on it.  dmesg reports it is connected, but it isn't connected as a removable drive.  Anyone have any ideas how I can do this?
[04:08] <frostburn> appdb.winehq
[04:08] <ex_> Thanks, its just a quick question though
[04:08] <Ashfire908> Pelo i found them. i'm saying if i say use crystal desktop icon set, and there is a crystal OOo icon set, but it's not installed, OOo goes nuts
[04:08] <ex_> So you can run MS office through it
[04:08] <Talcite> hey guys, is ubuntu-server hardened by default?
[04:09] <logicalbomb> anyone know of any way to set your wifi card into monitor mode?
[04:09] <Scunizi> BMT, System, Admin, Users & Groups and create a new user. Make that user a member of the group for the first user.  The problem comes in with any installed programs.  They are typically installed for one user and not for the other.  That's why the group membership is important.  At least I think I got that right>
[04:09] <Pelo> darlok, check in menu > ssytem > prefs > removable media maybe you can check the camera thingy
[04:09] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  pretty much so install them lot of them
[04:09] <rlount> jess, the fwcutter is for extracting the brdcom firmware. do you have the firmware?
[04:10] <Pelo> jess,  the best thing you can do is ask the channel at large
[04:10] <jess> rlount, i am not sure. how do i find out?
[04:10] <Pelo> fulio I suggest you check on that site see if they have a channel and then go there and ask them to hlep you setup
[04:10] <veynom> !dma
[04:10] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[04:10] <jess> pelo, i will continue to ask the channel @ large; thanks!
[04:11] <rlount> jess, one sec. looking at aptitude show bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:11] <maestrojed> what is the command to find out the current IP?
[04:11] <Ashfire908> Pelo: fat chance? my internet sucks. i'll install the ones i need
[04:11] <cp1134_> ifconfig
[04:11] <Pelo> maestrojed, ifconfig
[04:11] <rlount> jess, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ is the project page
[04:11] <jess> rlount, thanks so much for the help!
[04:11] <Pelo> Ashfire908, best of luck then, some of them maybe on the live cd , just pop it in before trhying to install
[04:11] <veynom> !women
[04:11] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[04:12] <darlok> Pelo: What am I looking for?
[04:12] <rlount> jess, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:12] <fainraven> pelo you think you could help me a little more im far to new to this
[04:12] <jess> rlount, i checkin' out the links
[04:12] <fainraven> but when ever i try to go to the restricted device manager i get "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers."
[04:12] <Pelo> darlok,  third tab ,  check the box for the top option, import pictures
[04:12] <darlok> Pelo: Yeah, it's checked.
[04:12] <rlount> jess, nice. I'm up to my armpits in an Ultrium 3583 right now, but I can try to help more if you need it.
[04:12] <darlok> Pelo: But if it doesn't show up anywhere in connected devices, that wouldn't help much.
[04:13] <Pelo> fainraven, ok I get it , restricted drivers doesnT' work for you ,   you need to try the binarie drivers
[04:13] <maestrojed> I am trying to set up Ubuntu to use a static IP.  I am adding the following information to my /etc/network/interfaces
[04:13] <maestrojed> # The primary network interface
[04:13] <maestrojed> auto eth0
[04:13] <maestrojed> iface eth0 inet static
[04:13] <maestrojed> address 192.168.0.160
[04:13] <maestrojed> netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:13] <Pelo> !ati | fainraven  those are the binari drivers
[04:13] <jess> rlount, thanks! i'll poke around and get back to you
[04:13] <maestrojed> network 192.168.0.0
[04:13] <ubotu> fainraven  those are the binari drivers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:13] <maestrojed> broadcast 192.168.0.255
[04:13] <maestrojed> gateway 192.168.0.100
[04:13] <veynom> does DMA depend on your DVD drive, or your motherboard or what?
[04:13] <Pelo> darlok, is the camera powered on ?
[04:13] <Sonicadvance1> whoa, dude, pastebin
[04:13] <knoppix> HEy
[04:13] <maestrojed> Can someone explain what network, broadcast is
[04:13] <darlok> Pelo: Yeah.
[04:13] <Pelo> maestrojed,  donT' paste to the channel
[04:13] <firu1> maestrojed: come to #hold
[04:13] <MeRodent> fainraven, what graphics card do you have?
[04:14] <Pelo> darlok,  well the only other thing i can suggest is for you to search for the camera model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:14] <Ashfire908> Pelo: i installed the crystal icon set and the icon issues are gone.
[04:14] <Pelo> Ashfire908, there you go
[04:14] <darlok> Pelo: Ha... it's a Crayola camera.  Not exactly a popular choice, I'm sure.
[04:14] <fainraven> im not understanding that binarydrivehowto i dont think....... im looking at it and its telling me to go to restricted devices manager as well but i cant.....
[04:14] <BMT> Scunizi, thanks ! let me try that !
[04:14] <fainraven> both ways requier me to get to restricted devices manager....
[04:14] <Pelo> Ashfire908,  now you can change your desktop icon theme at will , that will not change the icon them in OOo however
[04:14] <Ashfire908> Pelo: Do you think i could post a bug report on this?
[04:14] <Scunizi> BMT, no problem.. easy enough to undo
[04:15] <veynom> !wireshark
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <Ashfire908> Pelo: it did
[04:15] <Pelo> darlok, those toy camera usualy use very decent well supported chipset , you'd be surprised
[04:15] <Pelo> Ashfire908, I don't think it is a bug you were trying to use a button theme in OOo that was not installed , that's a pretty good reason for it to crash
[04:16] <arooni-mobile> hey folks when i click on an mp3, i think the mplayer plugin starts to load, but it cant playback the file so then the window goes blank......... whats the best solution to play back .mp3s i find when via firefox?
[04:16] <ari_stress> hi guys, i'm told that everything in unix/linux has a symbol in filesystem, such as /dev/lp0 for printer, what i cannot find is the symbol for keyboard and mouse. what is it?
[04:16] <fainraven> holly shit i dont understand the link you gave to me. or some thing becase its telling me to go to restricted devices manager as well... and as i stated i cant get there.
[04:16] <MeRodent> fainraven, what graphics card do you have?
[04:16] <Pelo> !mp3 | arooni-mobile
[04:16] <ubotu> arooni-mobile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <Scunizi> !restricted | arroni-mobile
[04:16] <ubotu> arroni-mobile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <fainraven> i have a 8600gt
[04:16] <Llivavin> Question, If you used VMware so you can run ubuntu with WindowsXP Then could you switch a rendering of a game to openGL would it run better?
[04:16] <aum> hi - does anyone know the maximum length of a bash command line?
[04:16] <frostburn> fainraven my 7600 isnt recognized, you'll most likely need to get the binaries off of nvidias site
[04:17] <MeRodent> fainraven, then the info is useless as the restiricted drivers don't support that card.
[04:17] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, but i know how to play back mp3s reguarely ... this is a browser specific issue
[04:17] <Ashfire908> Pelo: no i told OOo nothing. i changed the DESKTOP theme and it tried to use a matching theme, if one existed
[04:17] <BMT> Scunizi, i made a new user, and made that user a member of the group of the first user
[04:17] <n-iCe> Hi how do I install a desktop in my ubuntu server? a lighter one
[04:17] <BMT> sound right so far ?
[04:17] <Pelo> Llivavin, Ithink tha is a qusiton for #vmware
[04:17] <Llivavin> It was just a random question
[04:17] <Scunizi> Llivavin: if you're playing UT2004 or 2007 it is native for linux and opengl
[04:17] <fainraven> ok well i cant figer out the binaries or what ever
[04:18] <fainraven> i was reading the nvidia site and it sugested i just run the file that thay tell me to dl
[04:18] <MeRodent> fainraven, accept the file transfer I gave you and follow the instructions.
[04:18] <Sonicadvance1> Alright, I need help with my new Ipod, I plugged it in and Ubuntu can't read the superblock, a little help?
[04:18] <Pelo> n-iCe, the easiest way would be to get a deb package ,  check the site of the desktop manager that interest you
[04:18] <Pelo> !ipod | Sonicadvance1
[04:18] <ubotu> Sonicadvance1: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:18] <Sonicadvance1> um
[04:18] <n-iCe> Pelo Can you tell me a lighter desktop?
[04:19] <Sonicadvance1> I don't want to sync and add tracks o_o
[04:19] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: a couple of things.. first I find ipod work better with Amarok than Rythmbox.
[04:19] <Sonicadvance1> Amarok uses libgpod
[04:19] <JAppleSeed> n-iCe, xfce is a really good light desktop
[04:19] <Pelo> n-iCe,  fluxbox, bluebox, xfce , i think those are the light ones, but I 've never used any of them
[04:19] <n-iCe> Ok thank you, Pelo.
[04:19] <JAppleSeed> fluxbox is also awsome
[04:20] <Flannel> ari_stress: you mean file, but, /dev/input is where they are
[04:20] <JAppleSeed> extremely fast
[04:20] <n-iCe> JAppleSeed Do you know how can I install it?
[04:20] <Sonicadvance1> But that isn't the problem...
[04:20] <darlok> Just bought my son a cheap digital camera, but when connecting it to my computer, I can't access the pictures on it.  dmesg reports it is connected, but it isn't connected as a removable drive.  Anyone have any ideas how I can do this?
[04:20] <ari_stress> Flannel:
[04:20] <JAppleSeed> n-iCe, I think you can just do an apt-get/ synaptic
[04:20] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: use nicks when addressing someone so what you say won't get lost in the other noise.
[04:20] <ari_stress> [root@server1 ~] # ls -l /dev/input/
[04:20] <ari_stress> event0  event1  mice    mouse0
[04:20] <ari_stress> event0 is the keyboard?
[04:20] <Pelo> Sonicadvance1,  the howto menitonned in the ubotu lines may have some answers for you
[04:20] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: what is the problem.?
[04:21] <Sonicadvance1> I plugged it in and Ubuntu can't read the superblock, Scunizi
[04:21] <n-iCe> JAppleSeed You mean, sudo apt-get install fluxbox ?
[04:21] <Sonicadvance1> already checked it Pelo
[04:21] <JAppleSeed> yeah
[04:21] <Flannel> ari_stress: Its where keyboard input gets read from.  Its a little bit more complicated than "that's the keyboard" but yeah.
[04:21] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: will it read anything?
[04:21] <Pelo> Sonicadvance1, did you try it on another cmputer ? cause my next suggestion would be to format it
[04:22] <fainraven> meroden its not sending
[04:22] <ari_stress> Flannel: mm ok :)
[04:22] <Sonicadvance1> Pelo, I don't mind formating it.
[04:22] <JAppleSeed> n-iCe, keep in mind though it's very fast, but very minimalistic
[04:22] <bruenig> !hi | dug_
[04:22] <ubotu> dug_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:22] <Sonicadvance1> and Scunizi, it won't mount so I can't read from it :P
[04:22] <JAppleSeed> n-ice, but it's extremely customizable
[04:22] <ari_stress> Flannel: i thought it would be something like /dev/kb /dev/ps2
[04:22] <Fluffy-Wuffy> root isnt a valid account on ubuntu right? for security purposes or whatever?
[04:22] <JAppleSeed> unless you enable it
[04:23] <Pelo> Sonicadvance1,  can you see it in gparted ?
[04:23] <JAppleSeed> or use sudo -i
[04:23] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: which Ipod is it?  Did you add anything to your fstab?
[04:23] <Flannel> Fluffy-Wuffy: Its an account, it has no password and is locked though.  You can't login with it.
[04:23] <fainraven> meroden tell.
[04:23] <Sonicadvance1> Scunizi, It's the new Ipod Nano
[04:23] <Sonicadvance1> and Pelo, I can KINDA see it in gparted, it says it's 462.81MB
[04:23] <n-iCe> JAppleSeed done is installing it, how do I run it?
[04:23] <n-iCe> launch it
[04:23] <thedonvaughn> Sonderblade, new ipod's don't work with Linux.
[04:23] <Pelo> Sonicadvance1,  what FS ?
[04:23] <Fluffy-Wuffy> so its impossible for me to be opening myself up for exploitation by being on the root account then Flannel?
[04:23] <thedonvaughn> Sonicadvance1, new ipod's can't work with linux.  Apple is crap
[04:23] <Sonicadvance1> Pelo; also says it's unallocated
[04:23] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: Does the instructions say to format it before use?
[04:24] <Sonicadvance1> thedonvaughn, they already have it working
[04:24] <thedonvaughn> do they?
[04:24] <JAppleSeed> I haven't done different desktops in a while, but I think if you log off then you should see something on the log in screen that lets you choose
[04:24] <Sonicadvance1> Scunizi, from what I can tell, they don't
[04:24] <JAppleSeed> if I remember correctly
[04:24] <Sonicadvance1> but also Scunizi, those instructions are for Windows/Mac users :P
[04:24] <Flannel> Fluffy-Wuffy: Um, right.
[04:24] <thedonvaughn> Don't buy Apple and you'll be fine.
[04:24] <JAppleSeed> that's how it was a few years ago
[04:24] <Green_Tea> Pelo i have problem with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37650/
[04:24] <Green_Tea> Pelo
[04:24] <MeRodent> fainraven, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/37649/
[04:24] <Pelo> Green_Tea, hold on let me have a look
[04:25] <Fluffy-Wuffy> um, right as in i guess or um, right as in correcto?
[04:25] <MeRodent> fainraven, just copy the text from the bottom box.
[04:25] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: do you have access to a windows machine?
[04:25] <MeRodent> fainraven, save and print it.
[04:25] <Green_Tea> Pelo then later i press next it goes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37651/
[04:25] <Sonicadvance1> Scunizi, Nope
[04:25] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  go to synaptic remove the vmware packages you installed earlier and try again from add/remove
[04:25] <ash__> Anyone know how to get Mplayer to stop ummm... I dont know what it's called but showing the black strip on the top and bottom of the screen
[04:25] <Zemus> * Topic for #ubuntu-effects set by Amaranth at Sat Jul 14 16:38:32 2007
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[04:25] <ash__> like movie theaters or whatever
[04:25] <inazad> need help for apache2, i just see a blank page when i'm trying to load a php page
[04:25] <JAppleSeed> can anyone direct me twards a tutorial on installing an IDS on ubuntu
[04:26] <Zemus> Does anyone at all know how to stop metacity from being the default composite manager?
[04:26] <Pelo> ash__,  check in the preferences or ask in #mplayer
[04:26] <petro> ok big problem, somehow no one is a member of the sudo group anymore
[04:26] <petro> does anyone know how to solve this?
[04:26] <Green_Tea> Pelo vmware all unmark
[04:26] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: I'd hate to advise you further.. I ended up getting my shuffle working be going to winxp first then back to ubuntu. I also added a line to my fstab.
[04:26] <Pelo> Green_Tea,  then I don't know
[04:26] <Sonicadvance1> D:
[04:26] <bruenig> petro, there is no sudo group
[04:26] <n-iCe> ok JAppleSeed we will see, thank you.
[04:27] <Pelo> Green_Tea, try asking in #vmware maybe somene there knows
[04:27] <petro> well I seem to have lost the ability to use sudo
[04:27] <Zemus> Does anyone at all know how to stop metacity from being the default composite manager?
[04:27] <petro> and I am the primary user
[04:27] <thedonvaughn> petro, boot into single user mode and gpasswd -a user admin
[04:27] <ferronica> to use Aurora themes what i require?
[04:27] <dug_> inazad: try a php file with nothing but this in it: <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[04:27] <bruenig> petro, did you edit /etc/sudoers?
[04:28] <BernieMac> anyone know why me Listen music player just stopped playing my music files?
[04:28] <inazad> dug_, thats what I do.. but nothing... a blank page or a download.....
[04:28] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: the other thing you could try is to add a directory in /media called ipod before plugging it in. then plug it in and type sudo mount -a
[04:28] <dug_> petro: the group of people who can sudo is in the /etc/sudoers file, google for tutorials
[04:28] <someone> what do I need to set UMASK to in order to enable write support for anyone?
[04:28] <Flannel> petro: type 'groups', do you have 'admin' listed as a group you're in?
[04:29] <dug_> inazad: i would try a php irc channel for some help
[04:29] <inazad> dug_, hmm kk
[04:29] <petro> no I am not in the admin group
[04:29] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: the thing is, iTunes will format it and place the appropriate directories on the device.  without knowing what those are or where makes it tough.
[04:29] <bruenig> someone, just write support or read and execute also?
[04:29] <thedonvaughn> petro, again, maybe you missed me the frist time, boot into single user mode and gpasswd -a user admin
[04:29] <petro> I think I just created an admin group though
[04:29] <someone> write and read
[04:30] <Ashfire908> stupid question (please don't give me a ubotu message just tell me): what catgory are fonts under in synaptic?
[04:30] <bruenig> someone, ok well the directories have to be set to execute also or they don't work
[04:30] <Flannel> petro: Alright, well, that's why you can't use sudo.  You'll need to add yourself back to the admin group, like thedonvaughn suggested.
[04:30] <petro> ok so the admin must have gained the sudo privelage when I created it?
[04:30] <Scunizi> Sonicadvance1: you can also look at http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page for more info.
[04:30] <someone> bruenig: why not everything at once then
[04:30] <Flannel> petro: No, you removed sudo privledges from yourself somehow.
[04:30] <bruenig> someone, umask=000
[04:30] <petro> oh ok, well I I'll try to do that
[04:30] <someone> thanks
[04:30] <matt3453> i cannot get sound to work in realplayer, video is fine, and sound works fine in other programs... anyone have any ideas?
[04:30] <bruenig> there is a way to set dmask and fmask, d meaning directory and f meaning file if you wanted that but yeah
[04:30] <Zemus> Oh my god, this is ridiculous. An hour and a half asking this crap and I haven't met one person that knows how to assign a composite manager as default. That is SO BASIC. I am new to linux, but I've been doing windows administration and work for years. This kind of illiteracy is *unheard* of from anyone that has the tiniest inkling of what they are doing. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just extremely frustrated.
[04:31] <petro> ok thanks I'll see if these suggestions work
[04:31] <bruenig> Zemus, you realize that when you login to a session what happens right?
[04:31] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, #ubuntu-effects  .
[04:31] <Flannel> Zemus: This channel doesn't deal with eyecandy.  Did you ask in #ubuntu-effects?
[04:32] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, and you've been on here an hour?  There are 100s of documents explaining what you want.  google is your friend.   compiz-fusion or beryl is what you are looking for
[04:32] <aleka> This is a bit embarrassing... I was in here earlier for a different reason when I saw a command being thrown out for another user to try to list his private ip address [command was 'sudo dhclient'] , I thought I would try it if it was just going to LIST stuff, well since passing that command, a wrong DNS server is being passed into my network configuration and I don't know how to fix it
[04:32] <Ashfire908> Zemus: not to me rude, but this is NOT windows! http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:32] <Ashfire908> *be
[04:32] <buttercups> wow a windows administration fella for years good for you, your special zema
[04:33] <dug_> Zemus: see if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[04:33] <bruenig> aleka, dhclient runs everytime the network starts, everytime you boot
[04:33] <thedonvaughn> aleka, /etc/resolv.conf is your resolvers configuration
[04:33] <bruenig> aleka, so it is not that
[04:33] <thedonvaughn> bruenig, well i don't think he wanted it ran is the point.  probably a static IP
[04:33] <aleka> I have corrected the DNS entry to the right entry in System?Adminstration>network but it gets switched back after some time
[04:33] <thedonvaughn> bruenig, and it does re-write /etc/resolv.conf
[04:33] <bruenig> thedonvaughn, yes I realize that, I didn't consider static
[04:33] <bruenig> aleka, is it static?
[04:34] <thedonvaughn> aleka, check /etc/resolv.conf
[04:34] <someone> bruenig: I mounted a windows HDD drive (I'm in live Feisty), but I can only rename file, I can't create new ones
[04:34] <bruenig> someone, ntfs cannot be written to by default
[04:34] <someone> bruenig: i got ntfs-config installed
[04:34] <bruenig> ntfs-config is a front end
[04:34] <dug_> someone you need ntfs-3g
[04:34] <someone> i have it too
[04:34] <someone> i mounted it with ntfs-3g
[04:35] <bruenig> someone, what command did you use to mount it?
[04:35] <someone> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/winhdd -o forceD
[04:35] <someone> never mind the D
[04:35] <bruenig> why force?
[04:35] <Zemus> dug_, I viewed that link, Flannel, that channel has no idea either, thedonvaughn I've been googling for a while, haven't come up with anything.
[04:35] <someone> because it's the only way
[04:35] <aleka> it is static.. or has been static since the past two weeks I have moved here
[04:35] <nik`o`lai> hey, is there a way to pick which sound card I use, I'm in kde but I don't know if it's an alsa thing or an arts thing
[04:35] <someone> that's the only it lets me
[04:35] <someone> the only way it will let me
[04:36] <bruenig> someone, do "sudo touch /media/winhdd/test
[04:36] <bruenig> "
[04:36] <aleka> the DNS servers I am manually entering are being swiped by a number I don't know where it is coming from
[04:36] <JAppleSeed> So does no one know anything about IDS on linux
[04:36] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, what are you trying to do?  Just set up compiz or beryl?  What do you mean you haven't come up with anything?  Type compiz + ubuntu .  bam 1000s of documents
[04:36] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, in google that is
[04:36] <bruenig> 1000s of crappy blogs who generally don't know what they are talking about
[04:36] <JAppleSeed> So does no one know anything about installing an IDS oon ubuntu
[04:36] <aleka> thedonvaughn: shouldn't System>adminstration>Network do the same thing then?
[04:37] <bruenig> out of date stuff too
[04:37] <someone> bruenig: "touch: cannot touch `/media/winhdd/test': Input/output error"
[04:37] <thedonvaughn> aleka, in theory.  i never use GUI to configure my settings tho
[04:37] <bruenig> someone, yeah, hmmm
[04:37] <someone> bruenig: yet I have read support working very well
[04:37] <Kanuha> is there an option to set the size of a window? I resize the window while NOT maximized, but the next time I open it does not remember the size I last set it to
[04:38] <bruenig> someone, unmount it and mount it with sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o umask=000 /dev/whatever /mount/point
[04:38] <bruenig> someone, if you need force do -o umask=000,force
[04:38] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, or just wait till next month and Gutsy will have compiz included by default.
[04:39] <Zemus> I'm just trying to make compiz-fusion my default composite manager. Everyone is either telling me how to turn compiz on, or saying "why would you want to use compiz" or just going "you should ask in #kubuntu". I've never even *seen* kubuntu, let alone do I use it. It's so frustrating. That's a popular one too.... "wait till october, the you'll have compiz by default". I already have compiz, I'm not going to wait an entire month just to learn how to chang
[04:39] <Zemus> e the default composite manager? That should be extremely simple. And no one knows how.
[04:39] <aleka> thedonvaughn: in  etc/resolv.conf.. how should multiple entries be handled for 2 Nameservers? Separate lines? ;s?
[04:39] <bruenig> Zemus, you seem to be thinking in windows terms, the world of registries and whatnot
[04:39] <thedonvaughn> aleka, yup.  each line in the following  format "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[04:39] <bruenig> Zemus, bringing up a gui is very basic, it literally runs a script that launches a bunch of crap
[04:40] <someone> bruenig: same result - no write support, except in renaming files
[04:40] <bruenig> Zemus, most composite managers, realizing this, offer a --replace option so that you don't have to edit that script to launch that composite window manager, so you can put beryl --replace or whatever it is in the sessions startup commands
[04:40] <Flannel> Zemus: This imght help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[04:40] <dug_> someone: I have a drive I mount exactly like you do.  I did change the ownership & permissions of the mount point though: 'sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/winhdd'
[04:40] <OrTigaS> hi! i just installed dapper drake to external usb hd. my problem is i cant connect to internet but can see other network machine in our ofc. anny idea why i cant use internet? when i try to connect my lan cable to windows machine it connect to internet. :)
[04:40] <petro_> so if I created the usergroup admin, did I overwrite the original admin file
[04:40] <frostburn> did you remount?
[04:40] <NemesisD> Flannel, so would i be able to choose files from a folder in icecast or something? I don't really see how this will work with exaile
[04:40] <xp_killer> how to stop metacity from being the default composite manager?
[04:41] <bruenig> someone, I don't know, I don't use ntfs
[04:41] <someone> bruenig: thanks anyways
[04:41] <someone> dug_: thanks i'll try that
[04:41] <someone> dug_: btw im in a live session
[04:41] <MeRodent> xp_killer, metacity is the window decorator not the composite manager.
[04:41] <aleka> thedonvaughn: So dhclient re-writes resolv.conf , with what information? I don't know how it got the random NS that was in there
[04:41] <Flannel> NemesisD: Icecast just streams music that you give to it.  On the server, you'd run soemthing (mpd for instance) that will send music to icecast, which your local music player can listen to streaming
[04:41] <dug_> someone: and 'sudo chmod 700 /media/winhdd'
[04:41] <bruenig> metacity is the window manager I thought
[04:41] <dug_> someone: unmount and remount
[04:41] <thedonvaughn> aleka, from whoever awnsered the DHCP request
[04:42] <dug_> someone: what live session?
[04:42] <xfreakk> hi everyone can anyone tell me how to open and read the data from a tcpdump file
[04:42] <someone> dug_: "sudo chmod 700 /media/winhdd" in addition of the previous command? 7.04
[04:42] <NemesisD> Flannel, what controls what music is being sent to icecast though? id ideally like to be able to go through a music library like in exaile
[04:42] <dug_> someone: that's optional, that makes it so only you can read/write/execute to the drive.
[04:42] <Zemus> Flannel, I've visited that link as well, it doesn't have the info on how to make a composite manager default
[04:42] <Kanuha> is there an option to set the size of a window? I resize the window while NOT maximized, but the next time I open it does not remember the size I last set it to
[04:42] <ash__> How do I install ATI drivers again?
[04:43] <someone> dug_: i'm pretty sure it's my screwed up hdd
[04:43] <Flannel> NemesisD: You'd use something on the server (or the machine that sends the music to the server).  mpd has an ncurses client, and a php interface, and a few other options too.
[04:43] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, that or ask your question properly.  Your question almost doesn't make sense.  Compiz is a window manager.  It uses composite extensions from Xorg.  What do you need?  What version of ubuntu?  What version of compiz?  Is it compiz-fusion?  And again ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:43] <dug_> someone: ok, well at least they are cheap nowadays :)
[04:43] <Zemus> bruenig, I'm using the --replace option now, but I don't want to replace it, I want to make it default. Even replacing it as a startup script is still replacement... not making it the default manager.
[04:43] <bruenig> Kanuha, devilspie
[04:43] <xfreakk> hi everyone can anyone tell me how to open and read the data from a tcpdump file
[04:43] <aleka> thedonvaughn: Thanks a bunch for your help... I hope the Nameservers I just put in will not be re-written in a couple of minutes... Thanks for the help though :))
[04:43] <thedonvaughn> aleka, np
[04:43] <someone> dug_: I just wanna know one thing: if I go into windows recovery console and enter "fixmbr" and "fixboot", will it destroy all the data I have?
[04:43] <bruenig> Zemus, ok, right, well realizing now what happens during startup which is a script literally runs and launches a bunch of crap, you will have to find that script and edit it
[04:43] <dug_> xfreakk: googling brought up a few options: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=parse+tcpdump&btnG=Google+Search
[04:44] <Flannel> Zemus: you just set it to run at startup (well, login)
[04:44] <bruenig> Zemus, I can help with xfce, but I don't know where that script resides on other DEs
[04:44] <dug_> someone: fixmbr will mess up grub (ubuntu's boot loader)
[04:44] <Zemus> Flannel, you set compiz-fusion to run at login? How?
[04:44] <someone> dug_: I don't have any linux installed on that hdd
[04:44] <doug_> if i go into grub menu and pick ecoery mode is there anyway i can make feisty desktop go back to lastnight and uninstall or remove all what ever i installed today?
[04:44] <bruenig> Flannel, he is being anal about the fact that doing that technically means you are replacing the other wm and not launching it initially
[04:44] <Count|Work> I've got a problem with the ubuntu desktop installer GUI, i was wondering if anyone could help
[04:44] <Flannel> Zemus: That page explains how, you check the "enable compiz by default" or whatever.
[04:44] <dug_> someone: oh, ok, then sure
[04:44] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, i set mine by issuing fusion-icon in System->Preferences->Sessions
[04:45] <Scunizi> someone: fixboot will distroy data,  fixmbr won't
[04:45] <Mike22> if a really good, commited development team got together today and started working on linux (open-source) packages comparable to "Adobe, Apple, Autodesk, Maxon" 's software.. is it something that could be done within 4-6 years? (sorry for the strange questions)
[04:45] <matt3453> i cannot get sound to work in realplayer, video is fine, and sound works fine in other programs... anyone have any ideas?
[04:45] <doug_> or even fix problems from the recovry mode?
[04:45] <KoPaCh> veche
[04:45] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, if you are using feisty i think yo ucan system->preferences->desktop effects
[04:45] <dug_> Mike22: prob. only if a corporation sponsored its development
[04:45] <bruenig> none of these things do what he is talking about
[04:45] <bruenig> they all replace, they don't initially run with it
[04:45] <someone> Scunizi: my exact problem is that I can't boot into xp, it restarts as soon as the scrolling bar shows up. would fixboot fix it?
[04:45] <thedonvaughn> what's the diff?
[04:45] <Count|Work> I have ubuntu desktop 7.04. Basically, i'll run the installer, the installer will get somewhere between 50 and 79% and report "input/output error to the hard drive" and cancel the installation. It then tells me that hte problem is the CD rom drive
[04:46] <thedonvaughn> u have to replace?
[04:46] <codeshah> hmm... how do I zip files... 'zip'?
[04:46] <Count|Work> HOWEVER, i have tried 3 seperate CD ROm drives, 2 seperate copies of the images, and the installer still crashes
[04:46] <codeshah> obviously...
[04:46] <thedonvaughn> compiz doesn't do much more than composite.  if you just have compiz, you only have compiz.
[04:46] <bruenig> thedonvaughn, you don't have to replace necessarily, it is a lot easier to do so, but I had mine going for a while where it didn't replace
[04:46] <Flannel> someone: fixmbr won't fix that, no.  That's something messed up with your windows boot.
[04:46] <frostburn> Count|Work, did you burn at lower speeds?
[04:46] <Zemus> thedonvaughn, neither of those make it default.
[04:46] <bruenig> thedonvaughn, my xinitrc launched beryl then emerald then startxfce4 which meant the xfce window manager never actually was started
[04:46] <someone> Flannel: what about fixboot?
[04:46] <Scunizi> someone: i've had that problem.. boot to the install cd, choose console recovery, when you get to the dos prompt type fixmbr.  When done, reboot without cd.
[04:46] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, it makes it so it starts up everytime you start your workstation.  what do u mean?
[04:46] <dug_> someone: yeah, to add to what Flannel said, if you have a windows xp cd, you can run a system repair perhaps
[04:46] <Count|Work> frostburn: yes, and i verified the burnt data too
[04:47] <Flannel> someone: I don't really know much about windows boot process.  You ought ot ask in ##windows
[04:47] <someone> ok
[04:47] <Count|Work> is it a a potential problem with the hard drive?
[04:47] <frostburn> sounds it
[04:47] <someone> dug_: I can't run system repair, unfortunately
[04:47] <aleka> Would it be appropriate to ask  a VMware Q in here?
[04:47] <Scunizi> someone: you should also do a chkdsk /R (or /F, can't remember)
[04:47] <Count|Work> well i've started installing to another hard drive, however, its' only 2 gigs in size, so i set the swap space up on the large disk
[04:47] <someone> Scunizi: I think I get errors when I try to chkdsk..
[04:47] <bruenig> thedonvaughn, although it has virtually the same effect, he wants it to run initially. What happens really with gnome for instance, is metacity is launched then compiz replaces metacity, he wants it so metacity never launches at all
[04:48] <Count|Work> my only question is, is there diagnostic tools in ubuntu equvilent to window's scandisk and chkdsk so i can determine these errors?
[04:48] <thedonvaughn> bruenig, understand
[04:48] <Scunizi> someone: that's why you should do it after booting to the cd.  It's hard for windows to fix a file system that's mounted.
[04:48] <someone> Scunizi: the thing is - I've really done nothing to my PC. maybe a registry clean-up at worst. so I can hardly imagine it being a hardware problem
[04:48] <bruenig> he seems to have this mystical notion of default though which is nonexistent really
[04:48] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, well that is highly over complicated and unncecessary.  Why are you mad that no one does that?  I'm ending helping you now.  You're simply too confused on what you want
[04:48] <Scunizi> someone: registry cleaners .. ah... the jury is still out as to weather it is beneficial or not..  most say not.
[04:49] <dug_> Zemus: looks like you may want to upgrade to gutsy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeByDefault
[04:49] <frostburn> i wonder if reg cleaners run in wine =P
[04:49] <Extravert> which is better halftone pattern? diffusion or dither?
[04:49] <bruenig> composite by default does the same thing
[04:49] <newbi> hi
[04:49] <Scunizi> someone: also if it's Fat32 that can lead to problems, NTFS is more stable.
[04:49] <bruenig> Zemus, I understand you, but basically you will need to edit scripts to get it done
[04:49] <someone> Scunizi: I'm beginning to get the same picture. Also, what do you mean 'that's why I should do it after booting to the cd'? I don't really have a choice
[04:49] <doug_> ok i have music .mp3's on my ntfs i hoped on xp to see if it was with them on that side too just happens on ubuntu they run slow and play real slow how do i fix this
[04:49] <aleka> Trying to share files in vmware between host and guest OS and info here[http://www.vmware.com/support/ws45/doc/running_sharefold_ws.html]  says the shared folder option should be under VM>Settings>Option  and I do not have that setting.. Ihave VMware tools installed
[04:49] <someone> Scunizi: it's ntfs
[04:49] <Zemus> thedonvaughn, I'm confused on what I want? Seriously? I just want to make a composite manager default. And all the answers to that are way off topic. And I'm confused. Great. Wonderful.
[04:49] <cjae_> is there any electronics channels like that might deal with bnc ptz cameras under linux
[04:50] <Zemus> bruenig, really? Sounds good, where should I start?
[04:50] <cjae_> for a security dvr
[04:50] <DigitalNinja> is there any way to get music from iTunes?
[04:50] <Count|Work> what kind of performance loss can i expect if i run an application in wine? how much slower does it run as emulated?
[04:50] <goldbond> what bt client do you folks recommend? azureus works swimmingly for me for a few minutes, then all of the downloads stop. i could do without that.
[04:50] <Scunizi> someone: try chkdsk /F /R or /r after booting from install cd (windows install cd)
[04:50] <thedonvaughn> Zemus, yup.  compiz and everything works great for me.  Everytime i log in.  Has worked for months.  Guess I'm the one confused
[04:50] <frostburn> goldbond, use the azureus from the sourceforge site
[04:51] <bruenig> Zemus, one thing you might want to do though is drop this official notion of "default," It smacks of some sort of official registry or something. It literally just launches one program after another during the gui login, starts with the desktop, then the panel then the wm and so forth, there is no real official default, just whatever the script runs. But yeah i don't know gnome well so I can't help on that
[04:51] <Kanuha> bruenig, thx, what would the command be assuming that is the only window open? devilspie -a unmaximize
[04:51] <someone> Scunizi: I think it told me that I had a corrupted volume. Which is incredibly strange considering that only software could have really caused this whole thing
[04:51] <gusto5> hello, i just installed compiz tray icon with compiz 0.4.0, but now nautilus lags on load up (freezes for a minute or so)
[04:51] <bruenig> Kanuha, devilspie is usually controlled by scripts written in ~/.devilspie, or that is how I have done it
[04:51] <cjae_> Count|Work, think wine is an transtional layer not an emulator so it should run the same
[04:51] <Scunizi> someone: or a virus
[04:52] <Kanuha> bruenig, thx, I'll have a look
[04:52] <bruenig> Kanuha, then you launch devilspie at startup and it constantly monitors windows and stuff to make sure the rules you set are applied
[04:52] <Count|Work> cjae_: but i would have to run a 64 bit ubuntu to run a 64 bit program emulated, wouldnt i?
[04:52] <Zemus> bruenig, as of right now, it is launching metacity immediately -- I'm sure there must be a way to make it launch compiz easily instead. So that it boots up to compiz, instead of booting up to metacity? Very common.
[04:52] <Green_Tea> When i tyr go system > admin to synaptice package manager gave me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37653/
[04:53] <bruenig> Zemus, it's not very common amongst ubuntu people at least, they just generally go with the replace thing
[04:53] <iqon> i'm having usb hard drive troubles, anyone know what "reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3" means?
[04:53] <Green_Tea> When i tyr go system > admin to synaptice package manager gave me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37653/
[04:53] <cjae_> Count|Work, not sure that 64 bit is supported under wine but it may just work as 32
[04:53] <aleka> thedonvaughn: bah....my /etc/resolv.conf got re-written again... and I did not pass the dhclient program... it is replacing my entries with ""search localdomain
[04:53] <aleka> nameserver 172.16.100.1
[04:53] <aleka> ""
[04:53] <chuckman78> Was Automatix finally shut down?
[04:53] <doug_> how do i see what all i have as in drivers and in codecs and in hardwar undr gnome?
[04:53] <cjae_> Count|Work, I may very well be wrong
[04:53] <frostburn> aleka, are you using openvpn?
[04:53] <thedonvaughn> aleka, weird
[04:54] <bruenig> Zemus, if you can find someone who knows where gnome puts its session files, it will tell you the script and you can go from there
[04:54] <Scunizi> Zemus, I'm taking a shot in the dark here.  But metacity is the preferred startup environment, it can then get replaced by compiz.
[04:54] <aleka> maybe a re-start is in order... although I have no idea why it keeps re-writing my DNS
[04:54] <Green_Tea> When i tyr go system > admin to synaptice package manager gave me this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37653/
[04:54] <bruenig> Zemus, it might be in /etc/X11/sessions?
[04:54] <bruenig> Zemus, is there something in there like a gnome.desktop or something?
[04:54] <Scunizi> Zemus, you will probably get better answers in #ubuntu-effects.
[04:54] <doug_> how do i check on what hardware i have and what all software and codecs i have installed?
[04:55] <aleka> thedonvaughn: Would you know if dhclient puts in a cronjob or some sort of timeout to keep on renewing DCHP information?
[04:55] <cjae_> Count|Work, http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[04:55] <thedonvaughn> aleka, hrm maybe killall -9 dhclient to make sure it's not running?
[04:55] <chuckman78> Was Automatix finally shut down?
[04:55] <frostburn> aleka, it's nm
[04:55] <bruenig> !repeat | chuckman78
[04:55] <ubotu> chuckman78: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:55] <mannytu> chuckman78, was it?
[04:56] <Zemus> Scunizi, I'm getting answers all at once from here, ubuntu-effects, and compiz-fusion
[04:56] <chuckman78> yep
[04:56] <dug_> !offtopic
[04:56] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:56] <chuckman78> chuckman78
[04:56] <bruenig> Zemus, this is not really an effects question, but can you look in that directory /etc/X11/sessions
[04:56] <mannytu> chuckman78:I do not use it...
[04:56] <doug_> how do i check and see what hardware i have what i type in the terminal for it?
[04:57] <chuckman78> me neither, but a friend does and he cant reach it
[04:57] <untung> hello.
[04:57] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[04:57] <mannytu> the best answers are right here...
[04:57] <frostburn> doug_, cat /proc/cpuinfo , lspci, lsusb
[04:57] <untung> how to setup dial up networking in ubuntu?
[04:57] <bruenig> wow Zemus for being all crazily pissed when no one helped you, you aren't really responding
[04:57] <doug_> frostburn,  thnks
[04:58] <Zemus> bruenig, sorry, I've got quite a few windows open
[04:58] <chuckman78> untug: have you already setted up your modem?
[04:59] <untung> chuckman how do i know if my modem correctly installed?
[04:59] <workmunch> Does anyone know of an MPD client that supports fullscreen visualizations? Or if XMMS suppords mpd directly? The info out there is confusing.
[04:59] <Skrypt> What's the command to merge halves of a movie?    'cat avi1.avi avi2.avi > avi_1&1.avi'?
[04:59] <gusto> can anyone teach me to uninstall my own compiles?
[04:59] <bruenig> Skrypt, avimerge is such a tool in mencoder
[05:00] <untung> chuckman: i can see that in device manager conexant HSF modem
[05:00] <chuckman78> untung: go to this website: http://linmodems.org  you will find the right info there...
[05:00] <Skrypt> bruenig: you can do it through the terminal though so why install a program? I just forgot the string
[05:00] <bruenig> because it exists I am going to assume the cat solution won't work but I am intrigued
[05:00] <bruenig> Skrypt, avimerge is a command line program....
[05:01] <Skrypt> hmm...
[05:01] <Skrypt> Ok, so I think cat will work but it's hit and miss
[05:01] <Skrypt> so I'll install avimerge.
[05:01] <NemesisD> ugh
[05:01] <bruenig> Skrypt, its actually part of transcode not mencoder, my fault
[05:01] <Skrypt> k
[05:01] <doug_> what do i type in the terminal to see what all codecs i have installed
[05:01] <NemesisD> is there any less complicated way of just SSH w/ X forwarding and being able to hear audio? i really don't want to set up icecast or mpd
[05:02] <poul|raider> Yo, any mathematicans around. who can show me a plot of Xn+1 = 2.5*Xn(1-Xn) (recrusiv function) Maple is realy making me cry :(
[05:02] <NemesisD> poul|raider, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <ether> without going throught the horror that is "iptables" is there any other way to output an internet connection to a router?
[05:03] <progek> No matter which program I use to watch DVD movies, the picture is messed up (color + laggy). I've tried VLC, mplayer, ogle, etc. I have my Nvidia drivers installed. Any ideas?
[05:03] <doug_> what do i type in to see what all codecs i have installed?
[05:03] <bruenig> doug_, there is no such thing
[05:04] <bruenig> doug_, ls /usr/lib/gstreamer is close
[05:04] <doug_> bruenig,  aww darn ok
[05:04] <Scunizi> progek: you might not have DMA turned on for your DVD player.
[05:04] <Creed> Had a question, how do I make it so if I type like "myproggy" in a SSH/terminal window, it launches /home/me/myproggy?
[05:04] <bruenig> doug_, doesn't really make sense though as codecs are just files....
[05:04] <doug_> hey bruenig  u knwo anything about mp3 music liek crashes?
[05:04] <Creed> It launches it from anyhere (so i dont haev to type the path every time)
[05:04] <ether> Creed: add /home/me to your path
[05:04] <progek> Scunizi, thanks, how can I go about finding out/turning it on if it's off?
[05:04] <don_pucci> hey all
[05:04] <Creed> ether, how would I do that?
[05:04] <Talcite> !iptables
[05:05] <bruenig> doug_, I know I have never had one
[05:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:05] <doug_> bruenig,  reason i ask is i can play some music and it runs real slow and id go to the ntfs side and play ti it runs fine
[05:05] <astro76> Creed, good way (not recommended to add your actual home directory to your path) is to make a bin/ in your home directory (this will be in your path if it exists when you login), put it in there
[05:05] <bruenig> doug_, your experiment seems far from full proof
[05:05] <ether> Creed: IIRC it's "export PATH=$PATH + '/home/me'
[05:05] <Scunizi> !dma | progek
[05:05] <ubotu> progek: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:05] <ether> but don't quote me on that
[05:05] <bruenig> doug_, set up a nice scientifically competent experiment to determine the cause, one with only 1 variable
[05:05] <ether> you might want to google it first
[05:05] <doug_> bruenig,  it happened this aftr noon
[05:06] <bruenig> if only more people would do that
[05:06] <Creed> Oh thanks ether & astro76
[05:06] <doug_> bruenig,  i wouldnt knwo how to do that
[05:06] <bruenig> you can easily troubleshoot these problems by making it so only one thing is different between the times it works and the times it crashes
[05:06] <bruenig> then you know that one thing is what caused it
[05:06] <don_pucci> any ideas as to why mouse freezes on user logout?
[05:07] <doug_> bruenig,  here is my post i have been updating it evrytime i find more info i didnt know about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3377675#post3377675
[05:07] <bruenig> can't even begin to tell you how many times I have figured stuff out like that
[05:07] <bruenig> but no people just say stuff happened, fix it
[05:07] <bruenig> retarded
[05:07] <goldbond> i deleted iptables and forwarded a port on my router, but i still get an NAT error in azureus. what could be the problem?
[05:08] <frostburn> goldbond, check out the azureus wiki for ubuntu issues
[05:08] <progek> Scunizi: this is what I get following the steps to turn it on
[05:08] <progek> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:08] <don_pucci> any ideas as to why mouse freezes on user logout?
[05:08] <Scunizi> progek: there may be a setting in the bios that you need to turn on as well.. or maybe your drive doesn't support dma.
[05:08] <progek> that is when running-> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda1
[05:09] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[05:09] <Scunizi> progek: sda1 is a harddrive not a DVD rom..
[05:09] <progek> ok thanks
[05:09] <progek> oops
[05:10] <tkd> i need advice on a yahoo substitute that will allow ya to send files
[05:11] <progek> /dev/hdc  is no such file or dir. How can I find the correct path?
[05:11] <gusto5> hello, i would like to know how to remove a self-compile of compiz gnome manager
[05:11] <RonDutt> How do I change the time on ubuntu? (command line way, I dont have a gui)
[05:11] <dug_> tkd: did you try Kopete?  It does yahoo, but i'm not sure about file transfer
[05:11] <Scunizi> progek: hang on.
[05:11] <derekS> anyone know of a gtk/gnome app that can keep track of my investments (mutual funds, stocks, etc) and also has options to reinvest the dividends and such? Its soo much easier than logging into my bank fi you have one...
[05:11] <progek> thanks
[05:11] <frostburn> gusto5, make uninstall, otherwise you're out of luck
[05:12] <fainraven> holly shit i just folowed the most intensive crazy instructions to installing my nvidia driver who gave me this i dont remeber
[05:12] <ticked> dug_ i will try
[05:12] <jparker89> Lol.
[05:12] <stdin> !ohmy | fainraven
[05:12] <Scunizi> !dma
[05:12] <ubotu> fainraven: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:12] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[05:12] <stdin> !ohmy
[05:13] <Scunizi> progek: try fdisk -l (that last one is a lower case L)
[05:13] <MeRodent> fainraven, so did it work?
[05:14] <n-iCe> I have ubuntu-server and i installed fluxbox, apt-get install fluxbox, it have finish how do I start the desktop?
[05:14] <stdin> n-iCe: try "startx"
[05:14] <progek> Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB
[05:15] <n-iCe> stdin ok, I rebooted the pc, to see first if it asks me how start, if not, i'll write that.
[05:15] <Scunizi> n-iCe: sudo /etc/init.d/??? start.  the ??? should be substituted for the startup for fluxbox.  gnome is gdm, kde is kdm, xubuntu is xfce4
[05:15] <stdin> n-iCe: you'll have to install gdm/kdm/xdm to make it do that automatically
[05:15] <frostburn> you can run fluxbox from gdm,kdm
[05:15] <progek> the guide assumes /dev/hdc but that does not work for me. How can I find the correct path to use?
[05:16] <bruenig> Scunizi, no, those things start display managers
[05:16] <bruenig> Scunizi, or login managers really
[05:16] <Talcite> Does the IP table config get overwritten when the computer restarts?
[05:16] <Scunizi> progek: put a cd in the drive then fdisk -l and it should list it.
[05:16] <progek> thanks
[05:16] <doug_> how do i make a ziped folder in ubuntu?
[05:16] <jetscreamer> use zip
[05:16] <Talcite> I'm not using a gui, so firestarter's out of the question
[05:16] <Scunizi> bruenig: k.. thanks.
[05:16] <doug_> or compress a folder
[05:16] <frostburn> $zip
[05:16] <jetscreamer> zip,tar,rar
[05:16] <doug_> thanks
[05:17] <RonDutt> How do I change the time on ubuntu? (command line way, I dont have a gui)
[05:17] <Scunizi> progek: gotta run.. late.. nite. someone else will pick up the ball here.
[05:17] <progek> maybe I have a hardware issue? well even with a disk in the drive it just shows me sda1/linux, sda2/ext, sda5/swap
[05:17] <progek> alright thanks
[05:18] <dug_> RonDutt: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html
[05:19] <RonDutt> thanks dug_
[05:20] <Monty_> hi - i have a server question
[05:21] <Monty_> is this the right place to ask it (it is a simple one)
[05:21] <astro76> Monty_, ask away
[05:21] <Sitherae> Anyone know what happened to #beryl?
[05:21] <disinterested> anyone know how to get write permissions on a slave drive?
[05:21] <progek> I'm trying to turn on DMA but my drive does not show on the average /dev/hdc   how can I find the right path?
[05:21] <astro76> disinterested, what file system?
[05:21] <astro76> progek, it's probably sd*
[05:22] <Monty_> which should i use for file serving - smb or nfs? it is for a server that is being shared between two people
[05:22] <BeanHEad> Hello
[05:22] <progek> astro76 thanks, should fdisk -l show it? because i don't see it
[05:22] <disinterested> its clear but its formatted as ex3
[05:22] <astro76> Monty_, is Windows involved?
[05:22] <disinterested> ext3
[05:22] <Monty_> yes - window, max os x and linux
[05:22] <astro76> progek, use sudo fdisk -l
[05:22] <GhostlyDeath> I never heard of Max OS X.... is it new?
[05:23] <astro76> Monty_, then you'll want smb
[05:23] <progek> that is what I used
[05:23] <GhostlyDeath> nor Window
[05:23] <progek> sda1/linux, sda2/ext, sda5/swap
[05:23] <Monty_> ok - thanks - is there any good tutorials out there that anyone would recommend?
[05:23] <astro76> !samba
[05:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:24] <gusto> frostburn, okay, i managed to make uninstall compiz 0.4.0 and gnome compiz manager, but for some reason, nautilus takes like 1.5 minutes to load, and something looks terribly wrong
[05:24] <DWonderly> Monty_ for what?
[05:24] <stillmotion> Hi guys. I am trying to make a lynx command run in a cron job.
[05:25] <astro76> disinterested, if you want it writable by your user only, sudo chown -R <user>:<user> /media/<mountpoint>
[05:25] <stillmotion> All I want it to do is run the command "lynx http://examplesite.com"
[05:25] <astro76> guess he was disinterested :O
[05:25] <stillmotion> But I get terminal errors.
[05:25] <stillmotion> What is the correct command that I should do for a cron job?
[05:26] <dug_> stillmotion: do you want to download the webpage?
[05:26] <stillmotion> Just visit it.
[05:26] <stillmotion> Untill it doesn't load anymore.
[05:27] <n-iCe> stdin here?
[05:27] <n-iCe> startx
[05:27] <n-iCe> Doesn't work
[05:27] <dug_> stillmotion: oh do you want to check regularly if a web server is still running?  you can do that by downloading the file
[05:27] <stillmotion> No, I need to visit it.
[05:27] <gusto> my window manager doesnt seem to be working, anyone can point me in the right way?
[05:27] <stillmotion> It's a script that needs to be visited daily.
[05:27] <PPPP> i have a bluetooth usb dongle in place and tried "hcitool dev" to list it.  but i can't see it.  but when i tried lsusb, it shows up.  what should i do?
[05:28] <user01> where is the best place to get w32codecs from?
[05:28] <stdin> n-iCe: then you'll probably want a display manager
[05:28] <stdin> !w32codecs | user01
[05:28] <progek> Alright, DMA is on but my video playback for DVD's is still messed up
[05:28] <ubotu> user01: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:28] <astro76> !medibuntu | user01
[05:28] <ubotu> user01: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:28] <dug_> stillmotion: ok, cron runs stuff in the background, it isn't for visual tasks.  but if you fetch a webpage (download it), it will run that script on the server
[05:28] <shadowfox> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 and every time i get to the install it locks up at detecting File system any ideas on why
[05:28] <progek> can't figure it out
[05:28] <astro76> user01, either one of those
[05:28] <stillmotion> ok, dug_ how do I do that then?
[05:28] <progek> playback is laggy and color is off
[05:28] <n-iCe> stdin what should I do then?
[05:29] <stdin> n-iCe: install one of kdm, gdm or xdm
[05:29] <dug_> stillmotion: run the command "wget http://your.url/"
[05:29] <stillmotion> ok.
[05:29] <stillmotion> what's the command to overwrite?
[05:29] <n-iCe> stdin how
[05:29] <stdin> n-iCe: apt-get
[05:29] <n-iCe> stdin which one is the best if I installed fluxbox
[05:29] <Monty_> sorry - had to walk away for a minute
[05:29] <dug_> stillmotion: or in your cron job: wget -q http://your.url/ to run in quiet mode
[05:30] <stdin> n-iCe: there is no best, and the one you choose doesn't really matter. all do the same job
[05:30] <stillmotion> ok, so will that overwrite it?
[05:30] <Monty_> i mean is there any good tutorials for setting up users and shares on server that someone could recommend?
[05:30] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[05:30] <Monty_> for smb - that is
[05:31] <dug_> stillmotion: yeah, pass the "-o outputfile" option to specify where to save the file.  See "man wget"
[05:31] <Tsukasa> WHO LIKES DPKG ERRORS?
[05:31] <stillmotion> ok
[05:31] <Tsukasa> i know theres someone
[05:31] <roachmmflhyr> anyone interested in helping others with programming or want to learn something new check out my new forum http://c.linuxsecured.net
[05:31] <n-iCe> stdin ok
[05:31] <shadowfox> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 and every time i get to the install it locks up at detecting File system any ideas on why
[05:31] <Tsukasa> comeon who absolutely loves the monstrousity of errors of dpkg and wants to help me
[05:31] <Tsukasa> i have it pastebin'ed
[05:32] <Tsukasa> http://pastebin.com/m25f183a7
[05:32] <dug_> Tsukasa: i would just ask your question, and maybe someone can help you, maybe not
[05:32] <craigbass1976> I'm getting couldn't open pid file '...named.pid': Permission denied when firing up bind, even though bind owns the folder.  I've trid it with root owning the folder too, to no avail
[05:32] <Tsukasa> well, dpkg died, and it needs to work
[05:32] <jamison> is there a quick hotkey to bring up a new terminal window in X server?
[05:33] <dug_> Tsukasa: just a guess, but did you put a "sudo" before whatever dpkg command you ran?
[05:33] <jamison> or is there a way to get the superkey to pull down the Applications menu?
[05:33] <craigbass1976> jamison, You can make one; you mean like Ctrl+K?
[05:33] <n-iCe> stdin Doone, now?
[05:33] <Tsukasa> dug_: yes but it wasnt dpkg that i ran directly
[05:33] <jamison> craigbass1976: ctrl+k not working for me...
[05:33] <jamison> craigbass1976: how do i make one?
[05:33] <Tsukasa> dug_: it was apt-get install ubuntu-standard linux-386 ubuntu-desktop dmraid grub ntfs-3g after debootstrapping feisty
[05:34] <stdin> n-iCe: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start (replace the ? with the letter of the one you installed, k, g, or x)
[05:34] <dug_> jamison: you can try the settings under system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[05:34] <craigbass1976> jamison, really...  System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:34] <n-iCe> gmd :D
[05:34] <dug_> Tsukasa: did you run "sudo apt-get install ..." or just "apt-get install..."
[05:34] <Tsukasa> sudo
[05:34] <n-iCe> stdin does it will start automatically?
[05:34] <shadowfox> i am trying to install ubuntu 7.04 and every time i get to the install it locks up at detecting File system any ideas on why
[05:35] <Tsukasa> dug_: which actually wasnt really necessary since im root to begin with.
[05:35] <stdin> n-iCe: it will
[05:35] <craigbass1976> jamison, at the end of the Desktop section, the last item, is terminal.  i'ts got not shortcut by default, at least not in dapper, edgy, or feisty
[05:35] <gusto5> when i start up my computer, nautilus freezes, and i have no windows manager
[05:35] <dug_> Tsukasa: i see, sorry, i don't know, you might post on the ubuntu forums
[05:37] <gusto5> when i go into console and run "metacity --replace" it fixes the problem, why does this happen on startup?
[05:37] <jamison> thnx craigbass1976
[05:37] <craigbass1976> Got 'er done?
[05:37] <BernieMac> anyone know why me Listen music player just stopped playing my music files?
[05:37] <|birdman|> i cant get my wireless working on ubuntu
[05:38] <craigbass1976> jamison, I use Ctrl+K becuase I was using Konsole when I first set it up in Fedora, but I imagine there are any keys not taken
[05:38] <m1ke> having a problem with apt.  It appears to be broken.  Can't finishing updating.
[05:38] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, good luck
[05:38] <|birdman|> lol why do you say that craig
[05:38] <Evanlec_> anyone know if feisty supports SMP out of the box?
[05:38] <frostburn> yes it does
[05:38] <pike_> m1ke: apt-get -f install?
[05:39] <Evanlec_> so there's no need to download an -smp kernel?
[05:39] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, wireless, and I'm not sure who to yell at (I imagine the manufacturers) is still a pain in Linux a good part of the time
[05:39] <pike_> i think the default is smp but not sure
[05:39] <m1ke> pike_, It is the auto updater.  And give me same error and tries to make me restart.
[05:39] <|birdman|> so im pretty much screwed?
[05:39] <shisuka> laluna
[05:39] <jamison> is there a place to configure which compviz effects are enabled/disabled?
[05:40] <progek> Hi room, this is what happens when I try to watch a DVD movie with any player http://209.129.8.8/~erick/vlc.png
[05:40] <progek> any ideas?
[05:40] <FIRESIDE91> Jamison: ccsm
[05:40] <pike_> m1ke: what does it say?
[05:40] <astro76> progek, installed libdvdcss2 ?
[05:40] <progek> yup
[05:40] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, no, not necessarily.  Do an lspci and tell me what shows up for a wireless adapter
[05:41] <progek> one sec, I get the version
[05:41] <frostburn> progek, offtopic, but what theme is that?
[05:41] <|birdman|> what do you mean
[05:41] <FIRESIDE91> frostburn, it's standard Ubuntu Human
[05:41] <progek> human theme with a diff wallpaper + transparent panels
[05:41] <jamison> FIRESIDE91: bash: ccsm: command not found
[05:42] <progek> just changed the foreground color on panels
[05:42] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, type lspci at the command prompt, and look through the output for a line mentioning wireless adapter
[05:42] <|birdman|> k
[05:42] <FIRESIDE91> jamison: Did you install a version of compiz or are you using the stuff included with Ubuntu
[05:42] <|birdman|> i need to do that in unbuntu?
[05:42] <progek> ok, libdvdcss2 is 1.2.9-2
[05:42] <|birdman|> or can i do it in windows
[05:42] <xp_prg> hi all I am having the hardest time figuring out what resolution jumpcut posts their videos in
[05:42] <progek> meiubuntu
[05:42] <jamison> FIRESIDE91: stuff that came w/ fiesty fawn
[05:42] <rathel> I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[05:42] <xp_prg> can anyone help me to know this?
[05:43] <MongooseWA> is there a way to get sound juicer to be able to label a wider variety of tracks automatically? it's not fetching the track names for my blue scholars cd's
[05:43] <navets> !automatix
[05:43] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:43] <FIRESIDE91> jamison: You can't change anything more than whats in System -> preferences -> desktop effects without installing compiz fusion or beryl
[05:43] <progek> I also made sure DMA was enabled
[05:44] <|birdman|> craigbass1976, do i need to do this in unbuntu or can i do it in windows
[05:44] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, did you just say the W word?  Ooooh baaaad.  You have to type that command in ubuntu
[05:44] <|birdman|> ok ill be back then i need to boot into it
[05:44] <m1ke> pike_, here is my error http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=24975-Screenshot-synaptic.png
[05:44] <jamison> FIRESIDE91: which do you recommend--compiz fusion? and where to install--add/remove?
[05:44] <craigbass1976> |birdman|, we'll be here
[05:44] <Huey> HEllo
[05:45] <FIRESIDE91> Jamison: I recommend beryl, much more stable
[05:45] <Huey> How is everyone
[05:45] <FIRESIDE91> The big issue is all of the configuration needed, just do a search for "Ubuntu Beryl"
[05:46] <jamison> FIRESIDE91: ok thnx i'll read up on it
[05:47] <hxu> Hi! I'm going to ask an off-topic question, sorry. I was just promoted as vice manager of the R&D dept. What should I put on the namecard? "R&D vice director" or "R&D vice manager"? or something else?
[05:47] <progek> so anyone know what could cause this playing DVD movies? http://209.129.8.8/~erick/vlc.png  My DMA is enabled, I have libdvdcss2 etc. I have tested this with ogle, totem and vlc and all give these same results. I also have my nvidia drivers installed and get a high fps on glxgears
[05:47] <hxu> english is not my mother tongue
[05:47] <FIRESIDE91> Vice manager kxu
[05:47] <KurtKraut> hxu: please try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <Huey> hxu what is your first lanuage?
[05:47] <pike_> m1ke: id build a sources.list here: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and paste it over the existing text. save and exit and sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get -f install if that doesnt work.. i dunno
[05:47] <hxu> Chinese
[05:48] <Huey> Sorry, I only speak English and italian
[05:48] <hxu> Huey: I also need english titles on my namecard
[05:48] <Tsukasa> Can someone help me with a dpkg error? http://pastebin.com/m59e34748
[05:48] <NastyAccident> Big Brother is Watching...
[05:48] <m1ke> pike_, That works for gutsy?
[05:48] <troy_s> anyone else having dvd playback issues in gutsy?  amd64
[05:48] <progek> I'm having issues in Feisty
[05:49] <n-iCe> stdin is says starting gnome display manager [ok] 
[05:49] <n-iCe> And that's all
[05:49] <stdin> n-iCe: it should switch to it, try pressing Alt-F7
[05:49] <troy_s> commercial dvds refuse to mount.  i suspect it is a libdvdcss2 issue, but ideas appreciated (installed both dvdcss2 via the script and a repo)
[05:50] <n-iCe> nothing
[05:50] <AHHHHELP> Ahh help! i  did alt+ctrl+f2   and now i can't get interface ( tried rebooting... )
[05:50] <m1ke> pike_, I think it tried to update the kernell from .10 to .11 but failed, so that message comes to me everytime an update happens
[05:50] <phiqtion> how can i hide the mounted XP icon on the desktop?
[05:50] <KurtKraut> troy_s: and those DVDs used to be playable in Feisty ?
[05:50] <troy_s> KurtKraut: Completely.  Generally, since about breezy I just run the install-css.sh script and poof -- mounting not a problem.
[05:50] <troy_s> KurtKraut: Gutsy isn't digging them though.
[05:51] <jamison> what is the best way to install stuff like php, mysql, svn, httpd, etc. on Ubuntu--yum?
[05:51] <KurtKraut> troy_s: I think you should report it as a bug or ask for help in #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <AHHHHELP> synaptic package installer j aimson
[05:51] <troy_s> jamison: aptitude, apt-get or synaptic
[05:51] <astro76> !packages | jamison
[05:51] <ubotu> jamison: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[05:51] <n-iCe> nothing stiev3
[05:51] <xerophyte> I have server with 2 different subnet ip aliases configured .. how do you do i t.. do they need to setup 2 trunk on the port or how can a one interface have 2 subnet ips ?
[05:51] <n-iCe> stdin
[05:51] <phiqtion> how can i hide the mounted XP icon on the desktop?
[05:52] <AHHHHELP> phiqtion: the disk looking symbol?
[05:52] <AHHHHELP> can someone help me with myquestion?  i did alt + ctrl+f2 and i'm locked out now . i restarted and now i'm like sscrewed
[05:53] <phiqtion> AHHHHELP: yeah bro
[05:53] <troy_s> AHHHHELP: f2 takes you to virt term 2
[05:53] <astro76> AHHHHELP, ctrl+alt+F7 doesn't take you back?
[05:53] <troy_s> AHHHHELP: ctrl/alt/f7 should get you back to X
[05:53] <stdin> n-iCe: hmm, not sure, it should start. you can try asking in #ubuntu-server they know more about the server edition
[05:53] <Tsukasa> http://pastebin.com/m59e34748 <-- can someone take a look at this and help me for a sec?
[05:53] <scalawag> Has anyone used MTA (or any other mailserver available through the base repo's Ubuntu has to offer)
[05:53] <phiqtion> AHHHHELP: yeah bro
[05:54] <phiqtion> how can i hide the mounted XP icon on the desktop?
[05:54] <KurtKraut> scalawag: I suggest you using postfix.
[05:54] <troy_s> phiqtion: wtf are you talking about?  Is there an xp disk in the can?
[05:54] <scalawag> postfix...thanks, I'll look into it
[05:54] <zeeeee> can anyone help with my intel gma 950 issues? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551869
[05:55] <shadowfox> Ubuntu locks up at installation when it says 15% detecting file system
[05:55] <phiqtion> troy_s: i installed ubuntu after windows. everytime i start ubuntu, xp is mounted as a local NTFS disk, HTF i remove or hide the icon on the desktop as the only option i'm getting is to unmount the volume, i want to hide the icon.
[05:55] <troy_s> if you unmount it, it will go away.
[05:55] <Tsukasa> http://pastebin.com/m59e34748 <-- can someone take a look at this and help me for a sec?
[05:55] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: have you used the option 'Check CD for defects' that appear in the boot screen ?
[05:55] <shadowfox>  Yes
[05:55] <troy_s> the mounted filesystems are a byproduct of natilus -- if you don't want that -- you can change you fstab to quit mounting it.
[05:56] <shadowfox> and this is the secound cd i have made
[05:56] <AHHHHELP> troy_s: I still get a black screen
[05:56] <shadowfox> and i have check the md5
[05:56] <phiqtion> troy_s: i want to leave it mounted, just hide the icon on the desktop.
[05:56] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: both with md5sum matching and stopping in the same point ?
[05:56] <shadowfox> yes
[05:57] <DWonderly> Anyone have an idea how to fix a blue hue on DVDs and recorded media?
[05:57] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: how much RAM installed do you have ?
[05:57] <shadowfox> 256
[05:57] <phiqtion> how can i hide the mounted XP icon on the desktop?
[05:57] <arooni-mobile> hey folks.......... i can't play back any .mp4 H.264 content.........  every media player under the sun crashes.... ideas?
[05:57] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: what version are you trying to install ?
[05:57] <scalawag> KurtKraut, have you used postfix?
[05:57] <shadowfox> 7.04
[05:58] <KurtKraut> scalawag: a long time ago. if you need assistance, try #ubuntu-server or ubuntuforums.org
[05:58] <scalawag> Thanks man
[05:58] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: did you run the memtest to check the RAM health ?
[05:58] <shadowfox> yes
[05:58] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: Any error was found ?
[05:58] <shadowfox> nope
[05:59] <shadowfox> its an old IBM thinkpad a21m
[05:59] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: the hardisk is probably damaged.
[05:59] <shadowfox> ahh ok
[05:59] <shadowfox> is there a way for me to check
[05:59] <winston> does the new virtual pimp my ride work in ubuntu?
[06:00] <KurtKraut> shadowfox: in a old device, I dont know what to recommend to check. Try asking for help in ubuntuforums.org
[06:00] <shadowfox> ok thanks
[06:00] <troy_s> phiqtion: Have fstab mount it somewhere other than /media
[06:00] <troy_s> phiqtion: IIRC everything under /media automatically is put on the desktop via nautilus.
[06:00] <winston> KurtKraut: do you know iif the new virtual pimp my ride works in ubuntu or of anywhere i can check
[06:00] <shadowfox> i had server 2003 running on it so i thought ubuntu would be fun Thank you For your time
[06:01] <KurtKraut> winston: is it a program or a website ?
[06:01] <fermatstheorem> anybody wants to discuss linux startup vs launchd?
[06:01] <iammisc> ii'm using ubuntu dapper and the hplip version is too old and i'm using a newer printer and i need to upgrade
[06:01] <winston> its a program
[06:01] <jamison> how can i get it to remember alias ll='ls -l' in shell?
[06:01] <winston> KurtKraut: it is a program
[06:01] <iammisc> do i have to compile myself and if so, how should i go about uninstalling ubuntu's hp
[06:01] <fermatstheorem> jamison: put it in your .profile
[06:01] <KurtKraut> iammisc: I recommed you using the lattest version of Ubuntu. There has been some improvements in the printing system since Dapper.
[06:02] <KurtKraut> winston: is it designed for Windows ?
[06:03] <winston> KurtKraut: im not sure. do you know how to check
[06:03] <Tsukasa> guys i need help. dbus wont start
[06:03] <fatcatmatt> so...i'm back on vista...ubuntu just couldn't take my streets and trips
[06:03] <rlount> .exe?
[06:03] <iammisc> kurtkraut can i upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[06:03] <KurtKraut> winston: is it a .EXE file ?
[06:03] <winston> hold on let me check
[06:03] <NemesisD> anybody know anything about mpd? i keepd getting connection refused when trying to connect to my mpd server with gmpc
[06:03] <KurtKraut> iammisc: sure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:04] <progek> anyone know what this error means? No accelerated IMDCT transform found   I get that trying to playback a DVD movie
[06:04] <iammisc> kurtkraut won't that take a long time? from 6.06 to 6.10
[06:04] <iammisc> and 6.10 to 7.04?
[06:04] <Tsukasa> can someone please help me? dbus wont start in ubuntu
[06:04] <Tsukasa> feisty
[06:05] <Payeres> q weaa??
[06:05] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: just download the iso of it
[06:05] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: how does that help it not *starting*
[06:05] <KurtKraut> iammisc: it depends on the speed of your internet connection, in order to download the needed files.
[06:05] <fatcatmatt> how not? what's the problem, tsukasa
[06:05] <gilster> hello. I did a fresh install on a recently built machine. All works well  except my startup is a bit slow. After grub, when progress bar is done it fades to black for a good 30 seconds before showing me login screen. any ideas?
[06:05] <iammisc> kurtkraut; it's dsl but won't that take hard drive space
[06:05] <iammisc> a lot of space
[06:06] <rockets> My disc IO is going crazy and i have no idea why
[06:06] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: http://pastebin.com/m59e34748 line 31
[06:06] <rockets> is there any way to tell whats using the disc
[06:06] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: do you have any way of actually going to the website and downloading it?
[06:06] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: well yes
[06:07] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: and you aren't doing that because...
[06:07] <KurtKraut> iammisc: you can burn a Alternate CD to do the upgrade from the CD. It will save some disk space. How much free space do you have ?
[06:07] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: according to apt-get its installed already?
[06:07] <winston> KurtKraut: dang on the requirements it says windblows 98 me or whatever
[06:07] <KurtKraut> rockets: yes, it has. Let me try to remmeber
[06:07] <iammisc> i just don't want those upgraded deb packages to still exist on my pc after i updgrade
[06:07] <longgia2001> Dear all, my nautilus get crazy, the icons on desktop disappered, and nautilus crash & restart continuosly
[06:07] <DerangedDingo> is there a semi-uncomplicated way of getting gaim to channel chat messages to a .log file that could be tailed in conky?
[06:07] <rockets> KurtKraut, what has
[06:07] <longgia2001> Please advise
[06:07] <winston> ANY GOOD UBUNTU GAMES?
[06:08] <DerangedDingo> would I need a script?
[06:08] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: what do you mean by download an iso anyways, the closest i can do is get the git and compile myself
[06:08] <rlount> winston, word. Armagetron.
[06:08] <iammisc> KurtKraut also, can I be sure edgy will work on my system?
[06:08] <KurtKraut> winston: since it requires an old version of Windows, you may try Wine. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[06:08] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: can you get on mozilla?
[06:08] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: yes
[06:08] <rlount> winston, Nerverwinter Nights rawks it.
[06:09] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: go to ubuntu's site and download the cd image of feisty fawn and burn it to cd and restart your computer and install it.  that easy
[06:09] <KurtKraut> iammisc: probably yes, since it is an improvement from Dapper. You may run it from a LiveCD to check for specific compability. But Edgy is not the latest version, the latest is Feisty (7.04).
[06:09] <KurtKraut> iammisc: another version will be released within a month, it is called Gutsy (7.10)
[06:09] <DerangedDingo> winston: there's a version of Darwinia for Linux
[06:09] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: not really no. im installing on a raid-0 array which ubuntu installers do not recognize (not even the alt. cd)
[06:09] <winston> rlount: i had armegetron but i built a new pc so i forgot where to get it
[06:09] <BernieMac> anyone know why my Listen music player just stopped playing my music files?
[06:09] <gilster> my startup is a bit slow. After grub, when progress bar is done it fades to black for a good 30 seconds before showing me login screen. any ideas?
[06:09] <fatcatmatt> tsukasa: good luck then, my friend
[06:10] <arooni-mobile> i am trying to compile the latest vlc player from source........... is there anything bad about doing:  ./configure; ./make;  ./make install (overwriting older existing vlc player)?
[06:10] <frostburn> gilster, wireless card present?
[06:10] <Tsukasa> fatcatmatt: i got most of it installed manually but dbus wont start, its the only thing left til a complete install
[06:10] <winston> DerangedDingo: whats that?
[06:10] <gilster> frostburn
[06:10] <gilster> no
[06:10] <KurtKraut> gilster: try installing bum to disable unecessary stuff
[06:10] <iammisc> when i upgrade from version to version will the files it downloads still be on my computer after the upgrade?
[06:10] <gilster> ok
[06:10] <rlount> winston, it's somewhere in multi I think. open synaptic and see if you can search for it.
[06:10] <winston> rlount: ok brb
[06:11] <astro76> arooni-mobile, Feisty already has the latest
[06:12] <winston> rlount: you want to play armegetron
[06:13] <frostburn> so many hours wasted on armegetron, other than a vpn, how else could one play it from a different network
[06:13] <rlount> winston, naw man. wish i could. am configuring AMANDA w/ an IBM Ultrium 3583 thats giving me hell.
[06:14] <rlount> winston, you got it up and running tho?
[06:14] <winston> rlount:  dang its not in my games list
[06:14] <iammisc> how long would a distribution upgrade take on a dsl connection. Also, will my settings still be there when i'm done?
[06:14] <frostburn> winston, use synaptic package manager
[06:15] <rlount> winston, you can log out and log back in again or just call it by issuing alt-F2 and then typing armagetron
[06:15] <rlount> or terminal "armagetron &"
[06:15] <KurtKraut> iammisc: you'll probably have to download around 700mb of files. If you have more than 1gHz of processor and 256mb of RAM, after the dowload things should be installed withing an hour.
[06:15] <rlount> have a good time w/ it!
[06:15] <frostburn> iammisc, 6000mbit connection? maybe an hour
[06:15] <KurtKraut> iammisc: don't forget to make backup of your personal files before trying an upgrade
[06:16] <iammisc> KurtKraut: could it corrupt the hard disk?
[06:16] <winston> k i gots it running on my tv
[06:16] <cdm10> How can I change the system's main keymap?
[06:16] <winston> rlount: i gots it running on my tv
[06:16] <KurtKraut> iammisc: corrupt the disk ? No, but it can lead to an unstable install if something goes wrong, requiring a new fresh instal. But it quite rare.
[06:17] <KurtKraut> iammisc: that's why backuping is always necessary
[06:17] <iammisc> KurtKraut: but if i dual-boot windows then i'll just take my files from there
[06:17] <winston> i think im going to install vista on my other hd
[06:17] <iammisc> right?
[06:17] <KurtKraut> iammisc: other partitions and OSes should not be affected by any error.
[06:17] <fatcatmatt> winston: be careful with the bootloader
[06:17] <iammisc> kurtkraut: so i could just pull the files off using the windows right?
[06:17] <KurtKraut> winston: Vista will delete GRUB. I'll have to reinstall grub after Vista.
[06:17] <KurtKraut> iammisc: yes
[06:18] <marx2k> Super Grub Rescue Disc is your friend
[06:18] <winston> fatcatmatt: im having my bro do it
[06:18] <iammisc> kurtkraut
[06:18] <KurtKraut> marx2k: the best friend in this case :P
[06:18] <iammisc> would i need to make a backup?
[06:18] <marx2k> It's saved my ass countless times
[06:18] <winston> fatcatmatt: he is very stuburn with windows though
[06:18] <fatcatmatt> winston: good deal.  i think you have to install ubuntu then vista...can't ever remember
[06:18] <winston> fatcatmatt: he hates it
[06:18] <KurtKraut> iammisc: yes. This is an important task. Is requirable as much condoms for sex :P
[06:19] <winston> fatcatmatt: well i am doing it on a separate 180g hard drive that im not using so if i wanna use windows ill just switch drives
[06:19] <fatcatmatt> winston: i had to go back to vista because of the music and microsoft streets and trips.  having all sorts of problems that nobody could solve.  everybody said WINE STREETS and it never worked and i hated loading up a vm everytime i wanted to use it (8 hours a day 5 days a week) so i said the heck with it, im on vista now
[06:19] <fatcatmatt> winston: sounds good
[06:20] <germpest> is there a channel for darwin help on os x
[06:20] <MasterShrek> vista is puke
[06:20] <winston> hmmm
[06:20] <KurtKraut> germpest: I don't think so.
[06:20] <fatcatmatt> mastershrek: fix my problem then
[06:20] <mindrape> Vista is for housewives and 13 year old girls.
[06:20] <fatcatmatt> mindrape: fix my problem then
[06:20] <KurtKraut> mindrape: ahhahaha
[06:20] <germpest> I'm having trouble installing glib and pygtk
[06:20] <winston> fatcatmatt: im using fiesty now but it really doesnt matter to me. as long as i can get what i want done its fine
[06:20] <KurtKraut> fatcatmatt: I'm not an expert, but could you tell me your problem ?
[06:20] <fatcatmatt> ubuntu is great and all, but it can't do what i want, so everybody can eat their words
[06:21] <MasterShrek> well music shouldnt be a problem, and whats so good about ms streets?
[06:21] <winston> fatcatmatt: lol
[06:21] <gilster> i have used BUM to clean up my startup . I am still however getting an odd black screen with no HDD activity before GDM starts. any ideas?
[06:21] <germpest> anyone in here use os x and darwin?
[06:21] <voidmage> Is there a command to get a new dhcp lease using NetworkManager?
[06:21] <MasterShrek> i havent heard of ms streets in years
[06:21] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  ok thats kewl so, just say good night and go on with life then while the rest of us do those things you cant :)
[06:21] <fatcatmatt> mastershrek: i use it for work, wine doesn't it because of some deal and i hate running virtual machines
[06:21] <KurtKraut> gilster: someone has mentioned wireless... do you have wireless connection ?
[06:21] <cyberphaz> ah you hate virtual machines
[06:21] <mindrape> voidmage - sudo ifconfig eth1 down         sudo ifconfig eth1 up         sudo dhclient eth1
[06:21] <winston> rlount: try to meat me on armagetron sometime
[06:22] <cyberphaz> so it can do it just fine, you just dont want to
[06:22] <winston> GOODBYE EVERYBODY
[06:22] <fatcatmatt> yeah, cyberphaz, why run a friggen vm when i dont need those extra resources taken for trying to run 1 program?
[06:22] <KurtKraut> voidmage: Does 'sudo dhclient' suits you ?
[06:22] <MasterShrek> good point fatcatmatt, but i wonder why it wont run under wine...have people told u it will?
[06:22] <voidmage> mindrape: will that release my old lease?
[06:23] <fatcatmatt> ill post screenshots, mastershrek
[06:23] <kkathman> MasterShrek:  it will, just that some people dont have the patience or persistence to want to make it work :)
[06:23] <MasterShrek> no need fatcatmatt i prolly wont be able to help you with that lol
[06:23] <voidmage> I need to release and renew my dhcp lease
[06:23] <mindrape> voidmage - yup... for local networks.  If you have a cable modem you are trying to renew the lease for you may need to change the MAC address of your router and reboot it.
[06:23] <KurtKraut> voidmage: I'm used to do: sudo ifdown eth0 and sudo ifup eth0
[06:23] <frostburn> a vm isn't that much extra resources
[06:23] <fatcatmatt> i forgot to save them anyways, i was pissed off at the time, mastershrek.  all i remember is it couldn't find the map and some other deal
[06:23] <voidmage> mindrape: bah. it keeps giving me the same ip
[06:23] <gilster> KurtKraut: no wirelss
[06:23] <voidmage> i need a new one.
[06:24] <mindrape> voidmage - what does?  your ISP?
[06:24] <voidmage> f'ing terrible school network
[06:24] <voidmage> i'm stuck in captive portal hell
[06:24] <mindrape> voidmage - they might assign static IPs based on MAC address tied to a student ID or something..
[06:24] <KurtKraut> gilster: there is some tools that logs each boot step and how much time was spent in this tools. Try posting your issue in ubuntuforums.org asking for help and asking for instructions for these tools.
[06:24] <MasterShrek> to each his own fatcatmatt, but i think vista is crap, theres no reason an os should need so many resources to idle
[06:24] <gilster> KurtKraut: after progress part screen fades to black and it does nothing for like 30 seconds then starts GDM
[06:24] <mindrape> voidmage - explain what you are trying to do...
[06:24] <vancomycin> so i was going to get some help partitioning my single hdd to run a dual boot in ubuntu & linux. this was the plan : /boot (200mb) /root(is root for ubuntu? also to be formatted in reiserfs 10gb) swap=2gb /home (15gb) /fat32 (20gb) rest goes to windows xp total hdd space on laptop = 100gb, i have 65gb free to spare which leave ~10gb for winxp.
[06:24] <zeeeee> can anyone help with my intel gma 950 issues? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551869
[06:25] <fatcatmatt> VISTA IS CRAP! but ubuntu CANT do what I want it to
[06:25] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - why not use maps.google.com instead of MS Streets?  :P
[06:25] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  cant do, or you just gave up trying?
[06:25] <cyberphaz> it can you just dont want to..
[06:25] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - you are blaming Linux for not being able to run Windows crap...
[06:25] <fatcatmatt> mindrape: because i dont always have an internet connection
[06:25] <kkathman> there are always alternatives
[06:25] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - yet you are here...
[06:25] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: if you're not an experienced user, I think you are making too much partitions. I recommend you doing only two: / and a linux-swap partition.
[06:25] <voidmage> mindrape: for some reason I fail logging into the captive portal. often it's because of a "invalid/unknown address: contact OIT" (but they're only open during the week) error. What I'm trying to do is get a new IP address so I can get a fresh login page. The current situation is I'm stuck logging in on one thing, but I can't logout either.
[06:26] <voidmage> Basically I'm in some kind of between state. I can't login, and I can't logout.
[06:26] <fatcatmatt> mindrape: i'm blaming it for not being capable of actually being able to do things it's made out to be, especially wine
[06:26] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  if you dont want to run ubuntu, fine, just quit whining and leave, thanks
[06:26] <cah> haiiiiiiiiiii
[06:26] <fatcatmatt> im not whining, kkathman
[06:26] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - have you gone to Winehq and did it specifically say it could run that software?
[06:26] <mindrape> wine isn't an emulator...
[06:26] <Cryoniq> When is next upgrade of ubuntu going live?
[06:26] <KurtKraut> fatcatmatt: I think you can't blame Ubuntu for not being able to run an MS software. I think you should argue with MS why they did an program that does not support any other platform than Windows.
[06:26] <vancomycin> KurtKraut , i wanted to have a connection between windows and ubuntu so the fat32 would be helpful... i was here all morning learning a bit from the members here... will be using the gparted live boot
[06:26] <cyberphaz> Cryoniq: the roadmap says oktober
[06:26] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  yes you are, you're just hangin around, not asking questions, griping and whining.
[06:26] <vancomycin> just wanted to hear some other opinions.
[06:26] <Cryoniq> Sweet :)
[06:27] <fatcatmatt> kurtkraut: that's easy, windows and linux are vs. eachother
[06:27] <bayonetblaha> how do I choose which sound device I want firefox to use in ALSA?
[06:27] <fatcatmatt> ubuntu needs offline mapping software
[06:27] <kkathman> no it doesnt
[06:27] <frostburn> fatcatmatt, run vmware and windows fundamentals
[06:27] <skinnypuppy1334> Gparted is easy, resizing can take a while though, but easy
[06:27] <gilster> KurtKraut:
[06:27] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: the /boot and /home partitions are not really necessary. Just /, a swap partition and the /fat32
[06:27] <gilster> thanls
[06:27] <gilster> thanks*
[06:27] <fatcatmatt> frostburn: couldn't ever get vmware installed on my feisty fawn
[06:27] <vancomycin> KurtKraut , i was reading about some of this on http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partitioning ...
[06:27] <vancomycin> KurtKraut , what about a /home ?
[06:27] <fatcatmatt> frostburn: even followed the directions
[06:28] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  you couldnt. so that means it couldnt be done?
[06:28] <frostburn> fatcatmatt, what was wrong? mine runs flawlessly, are you on amd64?
[06:28] <vancomycin> i was reading the benefits of it
[06:28] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1496
[06:28] <fatcatmatt> frostburn: intel centrino duo
[06:28] <rockets> I've got a USB headset plugged in, and I got it working just fine using asoundconf set-default-card, but i cant get my keyboard volume shortcuts to control it, i set everything in the sound preference panel to use the usb headset, as well as the volume applet
[06:28] <frostburn> 32 or 64bit
[06:28] <Cryoniq> probably off topic, but if I would start learn programming, what language would be the most useful in GNU/Linux and Ubuntu area?
[06:28] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: not fundamental. You can have a single / partition. As I mentioned before, the minimum requirement is two partitions: a swap partition and another partition to all the rest (system files and your personal files)
[06:28] <FIRESIDE91> Cryon, C/++
[06:28] <fatcatmatt> mindrape: already checked that out.  i'm running s&t 2007
[06:28] <cyberphaz> cryo:c/c++
[06:28] <bayonetblaha> thanks rockets, I'll try
[06:28] <MasterShrek> Cryoniq, c__
[06:29] <lildonkey> hello
[06:29] <MasterShrek> ++*
[06:29] <rockets> bayonetblaha, huh?
[06:29] <vancomycin> KurtKraut from that above link i had given you - again, yes this is my first time... so i am trying to learn thats all :( what do you think about ext3 vs reiserfs?
[06:29] <FIRESIDE91> Ruby's a good language too
[06:29] <KurtKraut> fatcatmatt: this is an issue to be addressed to MS. In the 'linux world' we work hard to be compatible with everything that's possible. Wine is a great example.
[06:29] <fatcatmatt> but since the street program isn't supported so that i dont have to use some VM, i'm just gonna ride it out with vista until something works
[06:29] <mindrape> FIRESIDE91 - your statement is meaningless
[06:29] <Cryoniq> Isnt ruby a sort of script language?
[06:29] <scalawag> Anyone know if there's an X interface for postfix?
[06:30] <FIRESIDE91> Yes Cry, but's it's still powerful, and completly object-oriented
[06:30] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: Since you're beginner, always use the default stuff. They're safer. In this case, the default is ext3.
[06:30] <kkathman> Cryoniq:  yeah, I think I'd opt for python over ruby at this point - more universally used
[06:30] <fatcatmatt> okay, people, i'm not crying my eyeballs out, i'm just stating a point.  what i need ubuntu to do, it can't right now, so i have no use for it
[06:30] <mindrape> ianmcorvidae - how is Tucson?
[06:30] <KurtKraut> scalawag: I don't think so. But I recommend you trying to learn using the terminal. It is worth of learning. I'll be able to master your server with this knowledge.
[06:31] <Cryoniq> yeah I was thinking of python also in the same group as ruby, but python I known about for ages before :)
[06:31] <rockets> Cryoniq, ruby is a scripting lang yes
[06:31] <kkathman> fatcatmatt:  ok, great, then move on :)
[06:31] <mindrape> fatcatmatt - that is great... tell MS to make it work with wine by default.  Until then dont blame Linux.
[06:31] <|birdman|> wheres that craig guy i was talking to
[06:31] <vancomycin> i've already prep'd my xp os side, defragged with perfectdisk and chkdsk... got the live cd, just waiting for a friend to help walk through the gparted part. yeah beginning in linux but i've been using MS since dos days :( sucks to de-learn and re-learn.
[06:31] <scalawag> Can I log into it while it's running?  Don't get how to administrate it.
[06:31] <KurtKraut> scalawag: I'm not an IT professional... I'm a biology teacher. And this sort of stuff like postfix I always prefer the terminal, editing .conf files and things like that.
[06:31] <kkathman> isnt it time for the ops to take some action here?
[06:31] <xsteelwolf> I just installed kubuntu gutsy,but grub boot loader doesn't show up windows vista,what should i do in order to boot up back to windows?
[06:31] <tutu> where is /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu?
[06:32] <vancomycin> KurtKraut what grade do you teach? hehe... i'm in my last year of medical school.
[06:32] <mosno> vancomycin: try not to de-learn too much :-)
[06:32] <rockets> tutu try /etc/modules
[06:32] <frostburn> /etc/modules indeed
[06:32] <fatcatmatt> vista is easier to use anyways. no gedit /etc/fstab or any of that crap.  i'm outta here.  have fun, girlies!
[06:32] <|birdman|> wheres that craig guy i was talking to
[06:32] <tutu> thx
[06:32] <rockets> lol
[06:32] <mindrape> xsteelwolf - /boot/grub/menu.lst  <-- edit that
[06:32] <scalawag> I'm the same way, still tweaking my apache, but have it running nice - Much easier to set up then I imagined
[06:32] <xsteelwolf> how do i edit to make it show windows?
[06:32] <vancomycin> |birdman| he's on myspace ^_^
[06:32] <vancomycin> j/k
[06:33] <mindrape> xsteelwolf - it should have a listing for Windows in there.  Just uncomment it.  If its not listed at all you will need to probably do some googling.
[06:33] <Cryoniq> I'll think I'll go for c or rather c++. Used to do pascal back in the days and looked at java a few years back. But if I go for c etc again it will be hell adapting to object oriented later.
[06:33] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: As I just said to scalawag, I'm not a IT professional. I'm a biology teacher... and after I leanerd a bit, I only use Free Software. Be welcome in this world and be prepared to use the better piece of software that exists.
[06:33] <|birdman|> no i was talking to someone and the start of his nick was craig.....
[06:33] <xsteelwolf> # title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[06:33] <xsteelwolf> # root          (hd0,0)
[06:33] <xsteelwolf> this?
[06:34] <vancomycin> KurtKraut yeah i can follow what you're saying. so what's the class learning this week?
[06:34] <|birdman|> he was helping me with my wireless cuz it wasnt showing up in ubuntu
[06:34] <mindrape> xsteelwolf - yup... erase the leading # to make it a non-comment.  :)
[06:34] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: I have many classes :P More than 10
[06:34] <scalawag> LOL, after using Vista for a few months, coming back to Linux after years (and after having only had a few months experience with it) was a more then welcomed experience.
[06:34] <xsteelwolf> aqll of it?
[06:34] <vancomycin> KurtKraut k-12 or college?
[06:34] <rockets> i used vista for 2 weeks, couldnt stand it, reverted my windows boot to tXP
[06:34] <rockets> XP
[06:35] <|birdman|> would any1 be willing to help me
[06:35] <rockets> i run ubuntu primarily but i keep XP around to sync my blackberry
[06:35] <mindrape> I completely gave up on Windows about a year and a half ago. Never missed it.  My friend got Vista... he has problems all the time.  Half his Windows software doesn't work.  Half his hardware no longer works.  He basically has half a computer... but with pretty eye candy (even though beryl is better)
[06:35] <kkathman> There is such a major lack of driver support in VISTA right now
[06:35] <vancomycin> KurtKraut that's what inclinded me to go into medicine...
[06:35] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: I'm not in US, don't know what K-12 means, but I'm not a college teacher. I have only undergraduated students.
[06:35] <kkathman> there's better hardware support in ubuntu :)
[06:35] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: but at least once a month I'm invited to talk about free software in colleges.
[06:35] <rockets> KurtKraut, kindegarten through 12th grade
[06:35] <favoritefood0> K-12 is kindergarden through 12th grade. Which is pre-school to High school
[06:35] <mindrape> I wouldn't say hardware support... but hardware compatability
[06:35] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: thanks
[06:36] <favoritefood0> Yeah. Compatibility is better.
[06:36] <frostburn> there's better software support in ubuntu, nearly no software under windows is compiled for 64bit
[06:36] <KurtKraut> So that means yes, I do teach to k-12
[06:36] <vancomycin> mindrape hehe, thats why my vista business dvd is still sitting in the wrapper. xp pro was as far as i'd ever go - and now i am here
[06:36] <favoritefood0> So you teach 5 year olds to 18 year olds?
[06:36] <kkathman> mindrape:  well at our company we have seven major printers around the facility, all of which are Xerox or HP, one ONE of them was compatible with VISTA
[06:36] <davidthedrake> mindrape, Yea. My laptop CAME with Vista. The latest update from Vista broke my network access straight up. Good thing I threw Ubuntu on here a while ago.
[06:36] <scalawag> I hear ya mindrape - Vista was...almost not ugly (still had nothing on beryl or compize,) but even my nvidia drivers were beta and crashed all the time.
[06:36] <favoritefood0> Beryl doesn't do the cool affects for me.
[06:36] <vancomycin> KurtKraut what country?
[06:36] <favoritefood0> Some help for me?
[06:36] <osxdude|laptop> What does it mean when "failed to set xrefmode"?
[06:37] <skinnypuppy1334> I have ONE program I'm tied to windows to use, and it is on a VMware virtual machine. Linux is where it is
[06:37] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: from 7 to 18 years old, to be precise.
[06:37] <kkathman> favoritefood0:  I'd try compiz-fusion instead
[06:37] <favoritefood0> Okay
[06:37] <iammisc> how can i add a sane device whose uri i know but sane won't detect
[06:37] <KurtKraut> vancomycin: Brazil
[06:37] <favoritefood0> Then that is 1st grade to 12th grade.
[06:37] <favoritefood0> lol
[06:37] <favoritefood0> By our standards.
[06:37] <frostburn> off topic btw =P
[06:37] <|birdman|> can any1 help me get my wireless working on ubuntu
[06:37] <vancomycin> KurtKraut nice - i used to live in the netherlands antilles for 8 months
[06:37] <MasterShrek> |birdman|, what kinda card?
[06:37] <skinnypuppy1334> I can keep the windows machine open on another desktop and fullscreen it feels like the real thing
[06:37] <scalawag> favorite, Beryl took me a while to get working.  I ended up removing it and going compiz
[06:38] <|birdman|> its a msi card built in
[06:38] <sharkbrainguy> should font files have "install this font" in the right-clcik context menu in nautilus?
[06:38] <scalawag> skinny, what do you use to emulate windows?
[06:38] <skinnypuppy1334> Vmware server
[06:38] <kkathman> scalawag:  I got compiz-fusion working in a matter of a half hour
[06:38] <favoritefood0> how do I get compiz fusion?
[06:38] <favoritefood0> Someone have a linky for me?
[06:38] <MasterShrek> apt
[06:38] <kkathman> favoritefood0:  yah hold on
[06:38] <scalawag> same here kkathman, spent days tweaking it of course, and still play with it from time to time :)
[06:38] <|birdman|> master can i pm you
[06:38] <scalawag> love the screensaver ap
[06:38] <skinnypuppy1334> I had some problems with the VirtualBox not wanting to install programs in the virtual windows macine
[06:38] <davidthedrake> favoritefood0, Try using Synaptic Package Manager and searching for Compiz.
[06:39] <skinnypuppy1334> Vmware server is free easy to install and works!!!
[06:39] <kkathman> favoritefood0:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:39] <monkeyb> favoritefood0: nvicia or ati?
[06:39] <favoritefood0> Nvidia 6600GT.
[06:39] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: do you have a AIXGL compatible video card ?
[06:39] <favoritefood0> Its a little weak.
[06:39] <kkathman> favoritefood0:  use that link and follow it exactly - if you have beryl or any other compiz installed, remove it all first
[06:39] <favoritefood0> kk
[06:39] <favoritefood0> thx
[06:39] <kkathman> KurtKraut:  that doesnt make any diff with compiz-fusion
[06:39] <scalawag> basically favoritefood0 - add the repo to your sources.list and apt-get install it (or use synaptic or something like it)
[06:40] <MasterShrek> |birdman|, go for it
[06:40] <skinnypuppy1334> I can even terminal ssh-X into my machine with the Vmware server and run that windows VM machine from my garrage computer...
[06:40] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: start from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[06:40] <kkathman> scalawag:  its a bit more than that actually
[06:40] <chuy_max> hey, what happened with window menu in konqueror ?, this distro doesn't have that menu.
[06:40] <rafaelscj> hello, a quick question: i am about to install kubuntu-desktop. what should I use (gdm or kdm)?
[06:40] <kkathman> KurtKraut:  I just gave him that link :)
[06:40] <KurtKraut> kkathman: yes it does. It determines if Xgl or AIXGL will be used to support compiz fusion
[06:40] <favoritefood0> I'm still ultra knew to linux
[06:40] <favoritefood0> new*
[06:40] <MasterShrek> |birdman|, you prolly need to register your nick
[06:40] <favoritefood0> So I don't know how to do much.
[06:41] <favoritefood0> Just installed it a couple weeks ago.
[06:41] <|birdman|> how do i do that
[06:41] <kkathman> KurtKraut: no, it doesnt because of the unique things in compiz-fusion...it DOES make a diff in beryl tho
[06:41] <favoritefood0> Its much nicer than XP
[06:41] <MasterShrek> favoritefood0, we were all there once, thats what were here for to help u out
[06:41] <MasterShrek> tru.dat
[06:41] <scalawag> that's awesome skinnypuppy0 - I've just disowned windows completely.
[06:41] <skinnypuppy1334> fusion works better than beryl been there...that
[06:41] <KurtKraut> kkathman: so compiz fusion can be used over Xorg, no matter what video card ?
[06:41] <skinnypuppy1334> #compiz-fusion
[06:41] <scalawag> I got a compiz issue, actually, perhaps someoen here can help me
[06:41] <mosno> one for the perfectionists: /usr/share/misc/pci.ids versus /var/lib/misc/usb.ids -- does this mean that the usb.ids one is updated by a program, versus pci.ids where only an administrator would update it?
[06:41] <Tautoa> Rafaelscj, either will do
[06:42] <|birdman|> master where do i reg my nick
[06:42] <skinnypuppy1334> #compiz-fusion can help for certain
[06:42] <rafaelscj> Tautoa, is yjet
[06:42] <mindrape> rafaelscj - i think a lot of us here prefer Gnome... install both... pick the one you prefer.  :)
[06:42] <mosno> and why share versus lib?
[06:42] <kkathman> KurtKraut:  best to have your own card driver = see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:42] <mindrape> rafaelscj - its easy to switch back and forth.
[06:42] <slapfaceware> do you all use pci-e video card now?
[06:42] <scalawag> what's the URL to the pastebin?
[06:42] <mosno> both have an update-{usb,pci}ids
[06:42] <MasterShrek> |birdman|, /msg nickserv help
[06:42] <KurtKraut> kkathman: good to know. I was runing Xgl unecessary :P
[06:42] <rafaelscj> mindrape, how do I to change it later?
[06:43] <rockets> scalawag, pastebin.com
[06:43] <Tsukasa> can someone help me figure out why dbus wont start?
[06:43] <mindrape> rafaelscj when you get to your main login screen it will have a button that lets you choose the Session... you can switch between all of your desktop environments (XFCE, KDE, Gnome) and window managers (Enlightenment, blackbox, etc)
[06:44] <Napster_> hi
[06:44] <KurtKraut> scalawag: have you checked that ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[06:44] <kkathman> KurtKraut:  apparently, they have built all that intelligence into compiz now which is nice :)
[06:44] <favoritefood0> umm
[06:44] <favoritefood0> In the CLI
[06:44] <rafaelscj> mindrape, I mean the session manager
[06:44] <favoritefood0> I type in "deb http:// etc etc"
[06:44] <favoritefood0> and it says "Bash: deb: command not found"
[06:44] <KurtKraut> scalawag: also that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=postfix&titlesearch=Titles
[06:44] <monkeyb> I am trying to get pptp to ms vpn. I have followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91249. but I never the VPN menu items (only Manual Configuration...)
[06:44] <mindrape> rafaelscj - from within Gnome and KDE there are options to change the session manager between gdm and kdm.
[06:45] <scalawag> thanks Kurt
[06:45] <mindrape> it's been a while since I've changed it... I'm sure somebody here knows where and can get an answer faster than I can find it.
[06:45] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: this is not for typing. It is inteded to be added in the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[06:45] <favoritefood0> ooooh
[06:45] <favoritefood0> THANKS!!!
[06:45] <favoritefood0> lol
[06:45] <favoritefood0> my bad
[06:45] <Zenerek> i see you guys talking about beryl, but it w still beta?wshould you guys even be installing it?
[06:45] <rafaelscj> mindrape, I will chose gdm, but, how do I to chance it to kdm later?
[06:45] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: that happens in the best families :P ahahaha
[06:45] <favoritefood0> lol
[06:46] <mindrape> Zenerek - should we?  Well, I guess what I should and shouldn't do is my business.. installing and using beta software isn't a cardinal sin so I'm okay with it.  :)
[06:46] <favoritefood0> I put it in Software Sources
[06:46] <favoritefood0> under "Third-Party Software" directory right?
[06:46] <mindrape> Zenerek - its not like you can't disable beryl if it causes problems.  :)
[06:46] <tanner> i know this is a bit OT, but has anyone ever read a book that was something like, how people were living in a closed society, no emotion, couldnt see color, etc etc; and one person begins to question it, starts seeing in color, etc?
[06:46] <skinnypuppy1334> rafael, when you get to user/password you can select gnome or kde
[06:46] <MasterShrek> Zenerek, using beta software is what eventually makes it not beta
[06:46] <KurtKraut> Zenerek: yes, that still beta. If you do not use your session to critical tasks, should not be a problem. People are used to a crashing system like Windows, Bery/Compiz will be a piece of cake.
[06:46] <skinnypuppy1334> choose which to login with
[06:46] <mindrape> skinnypuppy1334 - he is talking about changing that main screen (ie; GDM) to KDM.
[06:47] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: how much RAM do you have ?
[06:47] <|birdman|> master i think i got it
[06:47] <skinnypuppy1334> my bad mind, misunderstood
[06:47] <rafaelscj> KurtKraut, 512Mb
[06:47] <favoritefood0> Beryl always crashed gnome.
[06:47] <Ste-Foy> ???
[06:48] <Ste-Foy> kde
[06:48] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: I think you shouldn't care about the login manager, mainly if you intend to switch from Gnome to KDE constantly.
[06:48] <favoritefood0> It removed all of my desktops
[06:48] <favoritefood0> and status bars.
[06:48] <favoritefood0> and all my side bars.
[06:48] <favoritefood0> And windows wouldn't open and stuff.
[06:48] <bastid_raZor> favoritefood0: apparently you didn't have it set correctly
[06:48] <dn4> I just deleted a file using a gui does that automatically clear up the space on the hdd or do I have to empty some recycle bin?
[06:48] <MasterShrek> use a console login and startx
[06:48] <marx2k> dn4: depends if you put it in the trash or deleted it
[06:48] <Tumpster> can anyone help me with cedega?
[06:48] <mindrape> dn4 - depends... in some cases it might go to /home/username/trash or /.trash
[06:48] <frostburn> dn4, it should be in the trash
[06:48] <rafaelscj> I will be back later. thanks for while
[06:49] <skinnypuppy1334> Is there a faster way to switch b/t gnome and kde than logout and change session?
[06:49] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: de nada.
[06:49] <nickrud> dn4: trash, lower right corner
[06:49] <chuy_max> how can I add window menu to konqueror?, ubuntu removed that menu
[06:49] <Zenerek> mindrape: guys it was more of a question than a suggestion and that's one thing along with that terrible registry that i don't miss
[06:49] <marx2k> skinny: no
[06:49] <|birdman|> master am i able to pm you now?
[06:49] <MasterShrek> dn4, there should be a trash, if u dont see it on your desktop its probable in /home/user/.local/share/Trash
[06:49] <rafaelscj> KurtKraut, :)
[06:49] <bastid_raZor> skinnypuppy1334:  that is the only way.. you have to restart X in order for gdm and kdm to switch
[06:49] <dn4> found it
[06:49] <dn4> do I just do rm filename
[06:49] <dn4> and it should take care of it?>
[06:49] <mindrape> dn4 - sure... :)
[06:49] <KurtKraut> dn4: yes and no
[06:49] <longgia2001> my nautilus get crazy, it get "Not Responding" all the time I start it. Though thunar runs well
[06:49] <mindrape> dn4 - cleaning up your porn?
[06:49] <marx2k> skinny, youre going from one window manager into another so yeah.. it has to get out of one window manager to go into another :)
[06:49] <favoritefood0> alright
[06:49] <longgia2001> Howcan I go about this?
[06:49] <favoritefood0> DLing compiz
[06:50] <Netham45> wow
[06:50] <dn4> mindrape, nooo not my porn!
[06:50] <Tumpster> Anyone willing to help?
[06:50] <marx2k> I can has pr0n?
[06:50] <KurtKraut> dn4: do you want only to have free space or just delete the file in a way that it is impossible to be recovered ?
[06:50] <longgia2001> my nautilus get crazy, it get "Not Responding" all the time I start it. Though thunar runs well. I can login to the GNOME session, but the desktop doesn.t show well
[06:50] <mindrape> Tumpster - i think there is a #cedega channel
[06:50] <dn4> KurtKraut, I just want to have free space for a pdf file
[06:50] <KurtKraut> dn4: so rm suits this usage.
[06:50] <dn4> word
[06:51] <marx2k> longgia: whatsays Not Responding?
[06:51] <mindrape> marx2k - nautilus... thunar works great though.  :)
[06:51] <dn4> KurtKraut, how do I check the size of the disk after deleting
[06:51] <kevsthabest> anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu on a networked drive.. and booting it from a separate system (IE.. installing on a desktop.. booting from a laptop)
[06:51] <KurtKraut> dn4: df -h
[06:51] <marx2k> Hm, do you have network drives mounted?
[06:51] <longgia2001> marx2k, the nautilus become freeze, and then a dialogue appear sayit that nautilus die
[06:51] <marx2k> kev: it would be slow, I'd think
[06:51] <nickrud> !installl | kevsthabest there's a couple network methods listed there
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about installl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <longgia2001> marx2k, "Wait or force kill"
[06:52] <KurtKraut> kevsthabest: yes, it is possible and pretty stable. But will required many readings and learnings.
[06:52] <marx2k> longgia: do you have network drives mounted?
[06:52] <phiqtion> is there a speedfan equivalent program in linux?
[06:52] <nickrud> !install
[06:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:52] <longgia2001> marx2k, no
[06:52] <Tumpster> i'm sitting here in the cedega channel and no one is responding....
[06:52] <KurtKraut> phiqtion: explain what this program does.
[06:52] <dn4> final question what is the best torrent program out there?
[06:52] <rockets> Anybody reccomend any GUI cvs clients?
[06:52] <rockets> prefereably GTK
[06:52] <dn4> !torrent
[06:52] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[06:52] <tico> hello
[06:52] <MasterShrek> dn4, there are many, ktorrent if u are using kde, otherwise i use transmission
[06:53] <longgia2001> marx2k, The last time I experienced the same problem, some body told me to lauch nautilus from xterm, it worked that time, but not now
[06:53] <MasterShrek> utorrent runs under wine nicely too
[06:53] <nickrud> rockets: cervesia is the only decent one I know : kde
[06:53] <phiqtion> KurtKraut: monitors and lets me adjust my internal desktop fans, cpu, hard disk cooler, etc.
[06:53] <favoritefood0> I want them to convert UTorrent to Linux
[06:53] <favoritefood0> Wine never worked for me.
[06:53] <mindrape> rockets - http://pharmacy.sourceforge.net/
[06:53] <favoritefood0> I never got it.
[06:53] <favoritefood0> i'm dumb lol
[06:53] <bastid_raZor> dn4 kTorrent can be used in Ubuntu .. simply apt-get install ktorrent
[06:53] <KurtKraut> phiqtion: I'm sure this is possible thru Linux but I don't know the name of the tool that does that.
[06:53] <favoritefood0> I don't worry about the kde interface programs.
[06:53] <rockets> mindrape, that app hasnt been developed since 2001
[06:53] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: have you tried Deluge ?
[06:53] <||> i use a second machine and torrentflux
[06:53] <favoritefood0> I can always run the KDE ones.
[06:53] <longgia2001> marx2k, please advice ???
[06:53] <dn4> not using kde
[06:53] <bastid_raZor> kTorrent seems to be the most stable
[06:54] <favoritefood0> Deluge = torrent?
[06:54] <||> and samba
[06:54] <Tumpster> anyone here at least run cedega that i can talk to privately?
[06:54] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - instead of trying to use Windows software via wine/cedega/etc... why not find a Linux equivalent? They are usually written better  ;)
[06:54] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: yes, it is a torrent client.
[06:54] <favoritefood0> Thought as much.
[06:54] <longgia2001> marx2k, I'm using GNOME desktop
[06:54] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: http://deluge-torrent.org/
[06:54] <Tumpster> if you like utorrent you'd be awesome with ktorrent
[06:54] <tico> somebody knows how to chenge the icon of my FILESYSTEM in the desktop? y try it using right clic on it but it do not work...... :(
[06:54] <favoritefood0> I'm only DLing one thing right now.
[06:54] <KurtKraut> tico: I think this is set by the desktop theme
[06:54] <Tumpster> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[06:54] <dn4> qtorrent it is
[06:54] <Zenerek> MasterShrek:yes it does well, so well that t the utorrent site they say one of the supported os is wine
[06:54] <||> torrentflux is essentially a php front end to the python torrent daemon
[06:55] <favoritefood0> what does Compiz do?
[06:55] <||> no gui client to worry about
[06:55] <KurtKraut> ||: torrentflux is nice.
[06:55] <favoritefood0> Just give me desktop affects?
[06:55] <astro76> rockets, crossvc
[06:55] <kevsthabest> From what i can see from the installation page.. i'd have no choice but install ubuntu on my desktop first.. but i need to keep windows running for specific server softwares.. any ideas?
[06:55] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - gives you eye candy similar to beryl which is similar in nature to OSX and Vista GUIs
[06:55] <KurtKraut> kevsthabest: what sort of software ?
[06:55] <Tumpster> i just got a nvidia card, do i want beryl or compiz?
[06:55] <tico> KurtKraut: good idea let me check because I changed all the icons also the icon of my win HD but i do not know what happen with the filesystem (HD) icon
[06:56] <mindrape> Tumpster - beryl and compiz are very similar... I think Compiz is more "Stable" but Beryl has sexier eye candy... take your pick.
[06:56] <bastid_raZor> mindrape: Vista stole their GUI eyecandy from Apple.. shame on you for referencing Vista as if it did something on its own
[06:56] <nanonyme> beryl is a fork off compiz and is re-merging with compiz
[06:56] <nanonyme> it won't exist after a while anymore
[06:56] <kevsthabest> KurtKraut D2gs for my diablo2 server is one example.. they dont have the 1.11b version done up for linux i beilive
[06:56] <bastid_raZor> compiz-fusion is the new spawn of beryl and compiz
[06:56] <marx2k> longgia: weird.
[06:56] <marx2k> have you tried to "rm -r .~/nautilus"
[06:56] <mindrape> bastid_raZor - everybody steals from everybody these days...
[06:56] <KurtKraut> kevsthabest: how much RAM do you have ?
[06:56] <marx2k> not saying you should do it, but thatd be my first guess
[06:57] <nanonyme> bastid_raZor, might want to prefer that to beryl, then
[06:57] <bastid_raZor> mindrape:  true.. but only Microsoft taughts it as original
[06:57] <dn4> is there a way to make money off gaming servers these days?
[06:57] <longgia2001> marx2k, I'm trying
[06:57] <longgia2001> marx2k, then logout, relogin?
[06:57] <marx2k> longgia2001:  yep
[06:57] <mindrape> dn4 - not really... charge users a fee to play each month.  Or spam them with advertisements within the game and as they login...
[06:57] <phiqtion> what's the best music player for ubuntu?
[06:57] <mindrape> phiqtion - what is your criteria for "Best"?
[06:57] <marx2k> dn4:yes., win
[06:57] <Tumpster> XMMS is the best playher
[06:57] <Tumpster> player
[06:57] <KurtKraut> phiqtion: this is a personal question :P Rhythmbox suits me well.
[06:57] <MasterShrek> audacious
[06:58] <mindrape> phiqtion - do you want lots of formats supported?  Do you want minimum footprint? Do you want a sexy interface?
[06:58] <kevsthabest> KurtKraut 256meg on my desktop, 1gig on my laptop.. the issue is i dont got a harddrive in my laptop.. last one had a major failure
[06:58] <frostburn> phiqtion, amarok
[06:58] <dn4> mindrape, ahh, seems like an unstable business method
[06:58] <phiqtion> mindrape: sexy
[06:58] <dn4> although I want to open up teamfortress II or Enemy Territory : Quake War servers to make some $$$ and play!
[06:58] <mindrape> phiqtion - well dont ask me... probably XMMS cause it has lots of skins.
[06:58] <phiqtion> lol
[06:58] <KurtKraut> kevsthabest: 1gb of RAM is pretty suitable for virtual machines. Why don't you run your Windows-specific stuff in a virtual machine ?
[06:58] <mindrape> I personally prefer simple... i use VLC for most everything
[06:58] <nanonyme> dn4, naw, make your own game and get the cash
[06:59] <MasterShrek> phiqtion, if u are going to go with xmms, use audacious, theres alot more stuff u can do, i especially love the osd
[06:59] <nanonyme> no one will pay to play common games on your servers
[06:59] <MasterShrek> audacious is built off xmms, its essentially the same, same skins and stuff
[06:59] <bastid_raZor> dn4: you are a retard.
[06:59] <KurtKraut> bastid_raZor: please, try to be polite :P
[06:59] <kevsthabest> Kurtkraut thats on my laptop.. and unfortunatly i dont got a harddrive in it.. my desktop is really suffering with 25
[06:59] <phiqtion> thx everybody
[06:59] <Tumpster> is beryl or compiz worth it
[06:59] <kevsthabest> 256 even
[06:59] <Tumpster> ?
[06:59] <favoritefood0> um
[06:59] <favoritefood0> I'm running Compiz
[06:59] <mindrape> dn4 - you can change the tilesets/theme within your server settings and spam advertisements for companies... that might cover hosting costs.  I don't know about "making money"
[06:59] <nanonyme> MasterShrek, although i've heard they're remaking skins so eventually xmms skins stop working
[07:00] <favoritefood0> and I have no menu bars
[07:00] <longgia2001> marx2k, thx, it works !!!
[07:00] <favoritefood0> to drag windows
[07:00] <favoritefood0> and the cube doesn't work
[07:00] <MasterShrek> interesting nanonyme, was not aware
[07:00] <davidthedrake> Tumpster, depends what you mean by 'worth it'
[07:00] <dn4> mindrape, maybe opening up a server farm will do the trick
[07:00] <marx2k> longgia2001:  if ever in doubt, delete the config directory :)
[07:00] <dn4> sell the servers to other people
[07:00] <mindrape> dn4 - probably not but good luck to you.
[07:00] <KurtKraut> kevsthabest: I see... you may try to test if ReactOS supports your win-apps... it stills alpha but does many tricks... and 32megs of RAM is more than enough for this system: www.reactos.org
[07:00] <davidthedrake> Tumpster, it definitely provides a lot of eye-candy and additional features that can be great for multi-tasking and computer use.
[07:00] <Tumpster> does it add any real functionality to the system or anything other than flippy windows and that ort of thing
[07:00] <Tumpster> like what?
[07:00] <dn4> mindrape, yeah i'm just a poor college student haha
[07:01] <davidthedrake> Tumpster, Some of the multi-window functionality is nice.
[07:01] <longgia2001> marx2k, is it true all the time :D
[07:01] <mindrape> dn4 - most people dont like to pay to play.  Paying $50 a year for XBox live is a stretch for most.
[07:01] <nanonyme> dn4, just get a job like everyone else ;)
[07:01] <davidthedrake> Tumpster, and the eye-candy is second to none for Operating Systems.
[07:01] <longgia2001> marx2k, Thanks anyway
[07:01] <Doitle> Is there a program designed to open MS Works files in Linux?
[07:01] <marx2k> longgia2001:  no, but in linux it works a lot .. no problem'
[07:01] <mindrape> Doitle - OpenOffice and Abiword probably do
[07:01] <dn4> mindrape, I hear you on that, paying to play blowz
[07:01] <davidthedrake> Doitle, You can use OpenOffice to open most MS Works files.
[07:01] <Tumpster> where can i find installs or installs/walkthroughs?
[07:01] <astro76> Doitle, OpenOffice should work
[07:01] <Tumpster> but is it truly worth it? compared to the current ubuntu?>
[07:01] <||> i don't mind $15 a month to play eve online
[07:01] <Doitle> oh ok it told me there was nothing associated to open it but I'll try manually opening it from in the program
[07:02] <davidthedrake> Tumpster, do you currently use "Desktop Effects?"
[07:02] <favoritefood0> I don't have any top bars with compiz
[07:02] <rafaelscj> I am back, now with Konversation
[07:02] <Tumpster> i think so.....
[07:02] <favoritefood0> anybody have any idea on how to fix said problem?
[07:02] <favoritefood0> I can't drag any windows or move them.
[07:02] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: that is a common probably, mostly because of a skipped process in the instalation
[07:02] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - you mean titlebars on your windows?
[07:02] <longgia2001> /exit
[07:02] <favoritefood0> yeah
[07:02] <MrLinux> hy to all
[07:02] <marx2k> favoritefood0: F2, type"emerald --replace"
[07:02] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - try typing nautilus or nautilus-mangaer I think
[07:02] <dn4> I don't see how people get off paying someone to point and click a mouse n times to get level 50.
[07:02] <mindrape> or what marx2k typed
[07:02] <kevsthabest> kurtkraut i was hoping to avoid installing a different os on my desktop (other then the server file.. i need to go thru my gf for anything like that.) and i was hoping to be able to use my laptop instead.. i have been running the livecd without much issues (7.04) but persistent doesnt work.. so anytime i get a crash or anything.. i cant recover all my settings.. no updating.. nothing:(
[07:02] <MrLinux> is some one free to help ?
[07:03] <marx2k> err, ALT+F2, niot just F2
[07:03] <kkathman> MrLinux:  whats the issue ??
[07:03] <mindrape> MrLinux - we dont know yet.  You haven't asked a specific question.
[07:03] <MrLinux> How do i stop firewall ? and open the sshd
[07:03] <rafaelscj> is there a package "xubuntu-desktop"?
[07:03] <kkathman> ^5s mindrape
[07:03] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: yes
[07:03] <MasterShrek> MrLinux, do you have sshd running?
[07:03] <mindrape> MrLinux - is sshd running?  sudo netstat -tulp
[07:03] <favoritefood0> Is emerald for Beryl?
[07:03] <nanonyme> dn4, try the mmorpgs some day. maybe you'll see why people pay for them
[07:03] <MrLinux> MasterShrek yes
[07:03] <favoritefood0> I don't have the emerald package installed
[07:03] <dn4> the most fuct up shit now days is that when you pay for college, the books you need for you classes are not even in the library at the college. This is really fuct up right?
[07:04] <kkathman> favoritefood0:  can run in both Beryl and Compiz-Fusion
[07:04] <KurtKraut> !ohmy | dn4
[07:04] <ubotu> dn4: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:04] <MasterShrek> MrLinux, is there a router between your server and client?
[07:04] <d23agp_> avelia
[07:04] <dn4> ohh my bad
[07:04] <Doitle> won't open... :/ Looks like I need to boot into linux to read a number from this file...
[07:04] <favoritefood0> I guess I'll install both
[07:04] <favoritefood0> I am now getting emerald
[07:04] <Doitle> er boot into windows
[07:04] <MrLinux> MasterShrek, is my server .. not hacked or something I just want to controll it by my PC
[07:05] <marx2k> favoritefood0: for the time being, ALT+F2 "metacity --creplace"
[07:05] <marx2k> errr
[07:05] <marx2k> --replace
[07:05] <rafaelscj> KurtKraut, do you know how to change the session manager? is that in /etc/init.d?
[07:05] <chowmeined> why is gnome seeming unresponsive?
[07:05] <tsm_ice9> anybody willing to share some insight on hardware choice?
[07:05] <favoritefood0> Still no memory bars.
[07:05] <marx2k> rafaelscj: as in default session mgr?
[07:05] <favoritefood0> err
[07:05] <favoritefood0> not memory
[07:05] <favoritefood0> but Top bars
[07:05] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: no, when GDM appears, there is some sort of 'options' menu at the bottom of the screen where you can choose if you want to load XFCE or Gnom
[07:05] <favoritefood0> with close/maximize/etc
[07:05] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: sure
[07:05] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: *Gnome
[07:06] <tsm_ice9> cool, thanks chowmein (hey, that's what I had for lunch 'n' dinner, heh)
[07:06] <KurtKraut> rafaelscj: XFCE is nice for PCs with 256mb of RAM or less.
[07:06] <MrLinux> so ?
, like gdm or kdm
[07:06] <tsm_ice9> I am replacing my old (DEAD) laptop, and have no intention of using Windows vista, of course
[07:06] <MrLinux> how do I open the ssh to login in
[07:06] <KurtKraut> say no to Vista and yes to Gutsy :P
[07:06] <tsm_ice9> yup
[07:06] <mindrape> MrLinux - man ssh
[07:06] <marx2k> rafaelscj: it should be an option in your login window... if you want to set a default, in terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" (or kdm for kde)
[07:07] <tsm_ice9> so, I'm either going for a Dell 1420N, or I have my eye on one of the HP tx1000 series
[07:07] <tsm_ice9> the Dell is obviously going to be way more linux friendly
[07:07] <alla> Hi I'm running Feisty on a laptop, normally it resumes just fine from hibernate, but it failed to resume, and upon rebooting it keeps mounting the root filesystem as readonly.. the hardware is fine, no problem running a different OS. Why does it now boot readonly?
[07:07] <rafaelscj> marx2k, thanks
[07:07] <nickrud> MrLinux: how are your computer's hooked up?
[07:07] <favoritefood0> There we go
[07:07] <tsm_ice9> but, I kind of like the HP a little better.. more compact, light weight, and seems like a nice lappy
[07:07] <favoritefood0> I have top window bars again
[07:07] <favoritefood0> YAY!!!
[07:08] <xyz> any movie subtitle editing application for Ubuntu?
[07:08] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: I'm glad of reading that :P
[07:08] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: so are the 3D effects working ?
[07:08] <favoritefood0> Kinda.
[07:08] <favoritefood0> I can't get the cube to work
[07:08] <favoritefood0> Hold on I'll try it again.
[07:08] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: I think you have to enable the cube from the settings window...
[07:08] <favoritefood0> I just enabled the cube.
[07:09] <favoritefood0> Here we go
[07:09] <favoritefood0> lol
[07:09] <favoritefood0> I can't drag windows to another desktop
[07:09] <favoritefood0> How do I "see" the cube?
[07:09] <kkathman> KurtKraut:  you are right, for some reason compiz-fusion's cube isnt enabled by default :)
[07:09] <favoritefood0> BTW thanks for helping me out with this.
[07:09] <rafaelscj> only one quention: i am seeing the "kubuntu" loading bar at startup instead of the ubuntu's one, how do I to change it?
[07:09] <favoritefood0> :)
[07:09] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - see that lil red emerald icon?  Right click on it and setup the shortcuts for the cube
[07:09] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: when I'm tired of talking (because of taking classes all day), and I want to convice someone to install Ubuntu, I just show them the cube spinning and people imediatly ask: please, install that in my PC
[07:09] <nickrud> !usplash | rafaelscj
[07:09] <chowmeined> yikes
[07:09] <ubotu> rafaelscj: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:10] <KurtKraut> luger: hi, what's up ?
[07:10] <MrLinux> nickrud maybe you can give me just the command..
[07:10] <nickrud> show them expose, it's much classier
[07:10] <chowmeined> so has anyone else noticed that gnome isnt very responsive? like when you resize a window its very choppy?
[07:10] <luger> hey, i'm trying to get Avant Window Navigator on my computer and glancing around for some help. You have any experience with it?
[07:10] <favoritefood0> I can't view the cube though.
[07:10] <favoritefood0> Lol
[07:10] <nickrud> MrLinux: if all is well,  ssh <you>@<server>
[07:10] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: I never experienced that
[07:10] <favoritefood0> Its kinda frustrating.
[07:10] <kkathman> luger yeah I do
[07:10] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: window resizing is a little choppy for me, now that you mention it
[07:10] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: yes, you can. It is a matter of setting it
[07:10] <kkathman> luger - I gave up on it, its not really stable
[07:10] <tsm_ice9> but I really don't mind
[07:11] <chowmeined> especially when there are lots of widgets
[07:11] <favoritefood0> I have the cube enabled.
[07:11] <favoritefood0> And rotating.
[07:11] <bastid_raZor> there is a emerld theme for compiz-fusion?
[07:11] <favoritefood0> But I don't seem to be able to activate it.
[07:11] <chowmeined> like go open the calculator.. and put it in scientific mode.. and resize it some
[07:11] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: are you pressing the correct keys in order to use the cube ?
[07:11] <luger> Ah, okay. good to know. It just looked like some nice eye candy. If it's not worth it, then I won't worry about it
[07:11] <chowmeined> its outrageously slow for me
[07:11] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: however, I have a pretty minimal setup, I don't use much RAM or a very nice CPU
[07:11] <luger> Do you use anything else like it?
[07:11] <favoritefood0> by default its ctrl+alt+left right?
[07:11] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: As far as I remember, yes
[07:11] <chowmeined> a 2d widget toolkit should use very little resources...
[07:12] <MrLinux> nickrud this is my PC with Windows and my ibook has the ubuntu installed on. Windows is the server and ibook just a local user network and I just want to get in .. by 192.168.1.2
[07:12] <kkathman> luger:  I kinda wanted to  use it as a "mac" intergace but its not anything like what I expected
[07:12] <ubuntu> ok hwo do i make it where i can reinstall ubuntu feisty i get this No root file system is define   Please correct this from the partitioning menu whn i click on the /dev/sda
[07:12] <seamus7> Hi.. when I go to a few administration programs like "USERS AND GROUPS or NETWORK the program window is blank ... what might this be a symptom of?
[07:13] <tsm_ice9> choppy window resizing doesn't really bother me though
[07:13] <nickrud> MrLinux: the ibook has the sshd process, right? you're logging in from windows?
[07:13] <MrLinux> gandit vreodata sa ai propriul Server IRC sau Retea IRC ? Ushells iti ofera pachete IRCD la cele mai mici preturi.
[07:13] <MrLinux> -
[07:13] <MrLinux> UshellsUP is admin@72.20.49.1 * psyBNC/Eggdrop - www.Ushells.ro
[07:13] <kkathman> luger - its not JUST a menu thing its also a taskbar which kinda makes it weird to use
[07:13] <MrLinux> UshellsUP on #Ushells
[07:13] <MrLinux> UshellsUP using *.undernet.org The Undernet Underworld
[07:13] <MrLinux> UshellsUP has been idle 32mins 3secs, signed on Mon Sep 17 07:39:03
[07:13] <MrLinux> UshellsUP End of /WHOIS list.
[07:13] <MrLinux> ops
[07:13] <favoritefood0> Alright.
[07:13] <MrLinux> nickrud , yes..
[07:13] <favoritefood0> The Cube doesn't want to activate for me.
[07:13] <luger> kkathman: Ah, okay, that's good to know. Then I'm not too worried about not getting it installed then
[07:13] <KurtKraut> seamus7: post a screenshot of that in ubuntuforums.org
[07:13] <Flannel> ubuntu: You need to delete your root partition, and then recreate it (on the previous screen).  Its a bug in the partitioner.  You only need to do it for your root partition though
[07:13] <nickrud> MrLinux: are you running putty on the windows machine (ssh client)
[07:13] <davidthedrake> Noooooo! Robert Jordan died today!? Ohhh man. *mourns*
[07:13] <MrLinux> nickrud yes
[07:14] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs-3g
[07:14] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:14] <MrLinux> !wine
[07:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:14] <favoritefood0> Also every time I close a window I lose my window borders as well as the top bar on all my windows.
[07:14] <ubuntu> Flannel:  i am trying to reinstall ubuntu on that file
[07:14] <KurtKraut> ubuntu: please, change your nickname by typing /nick YourWantedNickname
[07:15] <nickrud> MrLinux: there's no commands, you just set up the config on putty. I don't use it much, so I can't walk you through the config. But, you will log in as <useronmac>@192.168.1.2
[07:15] <Flannel> ubuntu: that's fine.  You can do that, you just need to delete and recreate the identical partition
[07:15] <evar> I am trying to chagne the message that is displayed when a user ssh to ubuntu and was wondering what file to modify
[07:15] <ubuntu> Flannel:  how do i do this?
[07:15] <MrLinux> nickrud , but I need the 22 port open to do that
[07:15] <vinboy> how do I mount using ntfs-3g so that a normal user can write to it
[07:16] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: you said you'd be up for giving a little hardware input-- I'm thinking about getting either a Dell lappy with feisty factory-installed, or an hp and doing the install myself.. is it worth it to get the un-supported hp and be on my own?
[07:16] <Flannel> ubuntu: go back to the previous screen (where you modify partitions).  delete the partition you want to use as / and then recreate a new one in the same place.
[07:16] <nickrud> MrLinux: unless you set up a firewall yourself, that port is open.
[07:16] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: it depends, does the HP have something you specifically want?
[07:16] <KurtKraut> evar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH
[07:16] <MrLinux> nickrud whois me, and try my ip on putty port 22 and you will see
[07:16] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: basically, it's in a more compact form factor, that's about it...
[07:16] <evar> KurtKraut, thanks
[07:17] <tsm_ice9> couple pounds lighter, and 12" screen instead of 14"
[07:17] <seamus7> KurtKraut: basically i believe something I've done recently created some sort of issue that is causing some administration apps to only open after a long delay and some to open with blank windows ... I wonder if there might be a common cause to such sysmptoms?
[07:17] <nickrud> MrLinux: is this going thru a router?
[07:17] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: you'll want to make sure it has a supported wireless card
[07:17] <favoritefood0> I close a Terminal Window and my emerald dissapears.
[07:17] <KurtKraut> seamus7: that sounds very odd to me.
[07:17] <MrLinux> nickrud , nop .. just on a oneher ethernet
[07:18] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: I checked in the store and it has broadcom, which made me grimace, but it seems people on the forums have been able to kluge 'em into working
[07:18] <MrLinux> nickrud , nop .. just on a onother ethernet
[07:18] <avt3kk> hi guys :D
[07:18] <KurtKraut> seamus7: there is nothing I can remember that bound all administration interfaces. Each one is a separated program.
[07:18] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: yes, its possible to get them working.. but you really dont want a broadcom
[07:18] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: because getting them working is a pain.. and they dont work that well
[07:19] <tsm_ice9> it has NVIDIA graphics too, which works but apparently not too well with suspend/hibernate
[07:19] <nickrud> MrLinux: you're not making a lot of sense here; if you're suggesting I try your visible ip, and you're going for an internal, there's gotta be router with nat going on. Back to my first question. How are these machines hooked up?
[07:19] <seamus7> KurtKraut: I recently installed Compiz Fusion (successfully) though I rarely use it ... also I notice that Azureus is opening multiple clients of itself whenever I add new torrents through Firefox ... I wonder if these could be related ... odd
[07:20] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: to be honest I'm also worried about returning the thing if it doesn't work out.. the people in store wouldn't let me try a live CD, so they might not be so tolerant
[07:20] <KurtKraut> seamus7: that's why I suggested you posting in ubuntuforums.org - that deserves a deeper investigation. You may also consider posting it as a bug in launchpad
[07:20] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: you really dont want a broadcom
[07:21] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: neither an ATi :P
[07:21] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: hmm ok.. I didn't know just how bad broadcom would be... I suppose I can stick with the Dell
[07:22] <MrLinux> nickrud , :) now I'm on my PC (Windows) he connect directly to the internet , and my ibook is plug in by home network connection by a cable on the second ethernet on my PC . I have on born ethernet and another one hooking the ibook on . PC has 192.168.1.1 and my ibook 192.168.1.2
[07:22] <bayonetblaha> rockets, are you here?
[07:22] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: there are more options than that.. you could try looking at another model/configuration of an HP
[07:22] <NSFrag> question, can i like, sudo make a /dev device on the livecd and symlink it to my raid array in an attempt to fake install ubuntu to the raid array
[07:22] <rockets> bayonetblaha, yeah why
[07:22] <mEck0> Have you bought a 14,1" or a 12,1" laptop? I have a 15,4" at 3kg today and think it's to large to carry around each day to school. 14,1" seems perfect in the screensize, but is "just" kg lighter. A 12,1" seems too small to work with? I'm going to carry the laptop with me each day, taking notes on lectures, programming etc. Sometimes for hours.
[07:22] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: you could also look at a ThinkPad
[07:22] <GNine> linux is not so intolerant ...  use sense .. read... and execute..
[07:22] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: yeah, I think most of them come with broadcom (HPs)
[07:22] <GNine> :-P
[07:22] <astro76> NSFrag, you need to use the alternate cd
[07:22] <MrLinux> nickrud the ibook connects to the internet by me PC
[07:22] <chowmeined> KurtKraut: that is true.. for now.. but AMD released their graphics card specs so.. hopefully we will soon see an improvement in the drivers
[07:23] <NSFrag> astro76: how though? the alternate cd by default doesnt detect my raid array
[07:23] <mindrape> whoopsadoodle
[07:23] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: I saw a thinkpad in store that looked nice, had intel for graphics and wireless.. but yeah they wouldn't let me try my live CD so I walked out
[07:23] <NSFrag> not that i saw anyways
[07:23] <nickrud> MrLinux: ah, you're using two ethernets in the windows machine.
[07:23] <favoritefood0> Gah...Compiz
[07:23] <chowmeined> tsm_ice9: intel graphics and wireless are good
[07:23] <MrLinux> nickrud yep
[07:23] <bayonetblaha> I did something wrong in the instructions you gave me rockets
[07:23] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: for newer graphics cards. Many of the cars people own around the world won't be affected by this.
[07:23] <bayonetblaha> you were helping me set default sound card
[07:23] <tsm_ice9> the thinkpad was 14" like the Dell, though, and cost more.. so I guess I might as well stick with the Dell
[07:23] <MrLinux> nickrud I don't have an rooter or a switch.. just another ehernet
[07:23] <nickrud> MrLinux: here's how to test your firewall on linux:  sudo iptables -L
[07:23] <rockets> bayonetblaha, i dont remember what we talked about
[07:24] <NSFrag> astro76: have you done a raid install with the alt install cd?
[07:24] <chowmeined> KurtKraut: the previous cards already have open drivers
[07:24] <chowmeined> KurtKraut: ATI used to release their specs before they got bigger
[07:24] <bayonetblaha> you told me to sudo asoundconf set-default-card
[07:24] <bayonetblaha> to set the default sound card, of course
[07:24] <nickrud> MrLinux: and I have zero clue about how to tell you to set up windows networking. I spent probably 8 hours on windows this weekend, probably more than in the last month
[07:24] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: not the majority. I have a card that has only proprietary drivers.
[07:24] <chowmeined> KurtKraut: and some of them were already successfully reverse engineered
[07:24] <bayonetblaha> I tried hw:1,0 as well as entries from asoundconf list
[07:25] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: I was kind of hoping for a 12" but there's not much else in that price range
[07:25] <bayonetblaha> no sound from any program now
[07:25] <MrLinux> nickrud here is all good , saying policy ACCEPT on 3 speps
[07:25] <kfarrell> Hello, I have a bash file I want to run as a user every day at 8am, do I use cron for this?
[07:25] <nickrud> MrLinux: if you can ping the linux box, then putty will connect to the ssh daemon then
[07:25] <favoritefood0> KurtKraut: The cube doesn't want to show up, I have it enabled, and I am trying the key activations, and they aren't working.
[07:25] <KurtKraut> kfarrell: yes
[07:25] <chowmeined> KurtKraut: and also... it might be reasonable to assume that these specs can be at least helpful to the development of previous generation drivers
[07:25] <tsm_ice9> seems the Thinkpad x61 is 12"
[07:25] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: I hope so.
[07:26] <tsm_ice9> I dunno what it's gonna run though
[07:26] <MrLinux> nickrud and what the ssh of the daemon ?
[07:26] <pppoe_dude> any way to view visio files in ubuntu?
[07:26] <MrLinux> what port ?
[07:26] <don> hi there
[07:26] <kfarrell> KurtKraut: I only know cron as running daily, hourly etc. Can you set it to run at a certain time?
[07:26] <GNine> putty , ssh.. thats right
[07:26] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: my biggest problem is with ATi soundcard. It is VERY crashy with Linyx
[07:26] <nickrud> MrLinux: port 22? but putty knows that
[07:26] <KurtKraut> chowmeined: *linux
[07:26] <ubuntu> Flannel:  can u join me in room #wwed please
[07:26] <Tarkus> hi, anyone know what the best way is to install drivers that will be stable? (is it restricte drivers manager? or is there a better way? i have NVidia GeForce 7800 GT)
[07:27] <MrLinux> nickrud .. trying to connect to the ibook by putty and just saying 'Connection refused'
[07:27] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: insist on that. You should be able to get this working
[07:27] <KurtKraut> Tarkus: the restricted drivers manager should offer the more stable ones.
[07:27] <nickrud> anyone use putty much? I don't even remember what the config screen looks like
[07:27] <favoritefood0> I'll give beryl a try, I had the same problems with beryl
[07:27] <favoritefood0> Its that darned cube
[07:27] <favoritefood0> and the command line
[07:28] <MrLinux> nickrud on Red Hat and other OS's there is /etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables stop . And service sshd start to run the sshd
[07:28] <rlount> Tarkus, I use the nvidia driver from their site. They are stable for various machines around here.
[07:28] <favoritefood0> I enable emerald in the command line "emerald --creplace"
[07:28] <favoritefood0> and I get all my top bars back
[07:28] <favoritefood0> I close any terminal and I lose my top bars
[07:28] <nickrud> MrLinux: sudo netstat -tlp will tell you what's listening.
[07:28] <tsm_ice9> looks like I can't get a thinkpad x61 for under 1000 :(
[07:29] <GNine> emerald... hmm.. compiz is out of topic here ..
[07:29] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: use ALT+F2 window to run this command
[07:29] <ubuntu> Flannel:  u join me in room #wwed please
[07:29] <favoritefood0> Alt+F2 doesn't pull up a menu
[07:29] <favoritefood0> I think that my key bindings got all messed up.
[07:29] <favoritefood0> or something.
[07:29] <favoritefood0> I hit alt+f2 and nothing happens
[07:30] <favoritefood0> it was working a minute ago.
[07:30] <revilodraw> hi! im using ubuntu, and am running xp in a virtual machine. im trying to install Copilot 10 (a gps navigation program in the xp virtual machine, but at the end of the installation i get an error message saying i dont have enough permissions. i am the administrator of the xp. it wont allow me to install the program in safe mode
[07:30] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: so there is something messed up for sure. This is a default gnome shortcut
[07:30] <MrLinux> nickrud , tell me here there is 3 ports open . tcp 856/pythin , tcp 315/cupsd , tcl 852/hpiod
[07:30] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - you using xfce or gnome or what?
[07:30] <favoritefood0> Gnome.
[07:30] <KurtKraut> revilodraw: I think this is a Windows issue, not related to the virtual machine.
[07:30] <MrLinux> !gxine
[07:30] <rlount> revilodraw, thats like a ... heh, yah,
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gxine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <mindrape> favoritefood0 - try typing gnome-theme-manager
[07:30] <nickrud> MrLinux: ah, you said it was running earlier: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[07:31] <Evanlec_> anyone think xubuntu is really any more lightweight than ubuntu? is it really better for system with 256mb ram or less?
[07:31] <mindrape> er.r.. gnome-wm
[07:31] <revilodraw> kurtktraut: yes you are right its windows issue, but it doesnt happen on my xp laptop...
[07:31] <favoritefood0> I see the theme manager
[07:31] <favoritefood0> Pulled htat up.
[07:31] <KurtKraut> revilodraw: Windows is not expected to work as exactly tne
[07:31] <ahughes> hey sorry for such a noob question.... my env param's in ~/.bash_profiles are not loading :'(
[07:31] <scratchy> Ubuntu is quite a big load
[07:31] <KurtKraut> revilodraw: Windows is not expected to work as exactly the same in every install :P
[07:32] <rlount> Evanlec, use ion2 for low mem. IMHO, it's waaaaay lighter than anything xubuntu.
[07:32] <favoritefood0> But nothing changes.
[07:32] <scratchy> I mean My Cpu's are running overtime
[07:32] <GNine> 256mg RAM?  scary
[07:32] <tsm_ice9> chowmeined: thanks for the input, I appreciate it
[07:32] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: there is a specific channel for these issues: #ubuntu-effects
[07:32] <Evanlec_> rlount, ion2 is a window manager?
[07:32] <favoritefood0> thanks.
[07:32] <rlount> Evanlec, aye.
[07:33] <MrLinux> nickrud , LOL i write the command down.. on my console and says here the 'invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ssh not found.'
[07:33] <scratchy> I have 2048mb Ram but still
[07:33] <Evanlec_> what distro?
[07:33] <nickrud> MrLinux: My apologies:  ubuntu has made sshd not listen to the net by default. That is utterly brain dead
[07:33] <michael__> are there any programs to convert mp3's into  sheetmusic or midi files?
[07:33] <revilodraw> kurtkraut: lol yes this is true, but do u have any idea how i can give myself ultimate super administrative privileges in xp? it will never connect to the internet so i dont care about vulnerabilities
[07:33] <GNine> 2048mg ram?  nice
[07:33] <nickrud> MrLinux: then you don't even have it installed
[07:33] <rlount> after installing *buntu, just install it and go for it.
[07:33] <zeeeee> can anyone help with my intel gma 950 issues? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551869
[07:33] <ahughes> perhaps it is bash_profiles and not bash_profile    (-s) ?
[07:33] <ubuntu> can aomwonw join me in #wwed that knows hwo to do a reinstall of ubuntu while dual booting xp /ntfs also please
[07:33] <MrLinux> nickrud , help me install it :P
[07:34] <favoritefood0> The Ubuntu Effects channel is very inactive.
[07:34] <Evanlec_> GNine, i'm interested in using ubuntu or linux on a usb drive, thats portable and will run on older machines well
[07:34] <MrLinux> !vmware
[07:34] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:34] <KurtKraut> revilodraw: I don't know. I have an issue with win2k3 that exceeds my inteligence... no one is able to fix that. So, we are both in the same boat :P
[07:34] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: so try the forums
[07:34] <scratchy> Running extended desktop on Ubuntu which is way better, 2048x1024
[07:34] <zeeeee> favoritefood0: what channel be that?
[07:34] <revilodraw> kurtkraut: ok cool thanks anyway
[07:34] <GNine> usb drive of over 2gigs?
[07:34] <zeeeee> oh nm
[07:37] <Evanlec_> usb drive of 2gb
[07:37] <nickrud> MrLinux: sudo aptitude install ssh-server    ;   then    sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and remove the # on the 8th line, where it says listen 0.0.0.0
[07:37] <revilodraw> is there a windows support channel for those of us forced to use xp?
[07:37] <Evanlec_> revilodraw, ya, #windows ;p
[07:37] <KurtKraut> revilodraw: don't think so.
[07:37] <revilodraw> evanlec: makes sense
[07:37] <GNine> linux should be able to run from it .. but you have to know what your getting yourself into
[07:37] <rlount> revilodraw, er... $$$
[07:37] <rlount> Windows = $$$
[07:37] <ubuntu> when dual booting and xp is on the hd first and is ntfs thn is ubuntu the /dev/sda2?
[07:37] <MrLinux> nickrud on bro I will do that... now I'm restarting the ibook the base is up-to-daet
[07:37] <MrLinux> nickrud on bro I will do that... now I'm restarting the ibook the base is up-to-date *
[07:37] <ubuntu> sorry /dev/media/sda2
[07:37] <nickrud> MrLinux: no reboot needed
[07:37] <KurtKraut> ubuntu: please, change your nickname by typing /nick YourWantedNickname
[07:37] <rlount> nickrud, on install no open ports are good ports.
[07:37] <GNine> ssh is networking with windows in my book
[07:37] <MrLinux> nickrud but the icon sayd that not me :P
[07:37] <GNine> :-P
[07:37] <ubuntu> can someone help me with a reinstall of ubuntu please
[07:37] <GNine> ssh = good though..  carry on
[07:37] <faileas> ubuntu: just install over the old install
[07:37] <ubuntu> and KurtKraut i tried it wont let me
[07:37] <ubuntu> faileas:  it wont let me saying somethng about the root
[07:37] <KurtKraut> ubuntu: probably you typed a nickname that already belong to someone. Try a very inventive one.
[07:37] <nickrud> rlount: I remember a long thread about that years ago, and I come down on if someone installs something that's useless without being open to the outside, that's a bogus argument
[07:38] <XsteelWolf> how do i check whether my wlan driver is install?
[07:38] <nickrud> pardon the grammer
[07:38] <faileas> ubuntu: booting from the cd?
[07:38] <rlount> nickrud, heh.
[07:38] <rlount> I hear you.
[07:38] <hjfkd> faileas:  i am on the live cd
[07:38] <XsteelWolf> how do i check whether my wlan driver is install?
[07:38] <scratchy> So anyone running Compiz Fusion on a ATI yet ?
[07:38] <bootsmorris> whats up
[07:39] <Whack> scractchy: i am
[07:39] <hjfkd> faileas:  i am trying to reinstall ubuntu over the other ubuntu but sayes something about being root
[07:39] <faileas> hjfkd: hmm. i've done it with alternate...
[07:39] <michael__> whats a small mp3 to wav program for linux
[07:39] <scratchy> XGL ?
[07:39] <Drunken_Master> Hey everyone
[07:39] <rlount> nickrud, I'd still much rather open things then run around closing them before someone p0wns me.
[07:39] <XsteelWolf> how do i check whether my wlan driver is install?
[07:39] <Whack> yes, on a 9800xt
[07:39] <hjfkd> faileas:  join me in room #wwed please so we can talk without all this flooding
[07:39] <scratchy> I keep trying but somehow its EXtremely instabile
[07:39] <Whack> what driver are you using for your video card, and what card?
[07:39] <Drunken_Master> Can someone help me ?
[07:39] <scratchy> enlighten us with thou mighty knowledge of Wise Whack one
[07:39] <GNine> !wlan
[07:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:39] <faileas> hjfkd: i got too many windows open
[07:39] <KurtKraut> Drunken_Master: ask your question
[07:40] <Whack> well, im still a relative noob, it took me about 2 hours to get it working
[07:40] <nickrud> rlount: my irritation is probably more about my complacency using debian thinking again. Bit in the butt, again :)
[07:40] <Drunken_Master> I just installed Ubuntu ( latest release ) on my notebook and it keeps freezing ...
[07:40] <scratchy> No beryl right ?
[07:40] <Whack> are you using the restricted ati driver?
[07:40] <Whack> no
[07:40] <scratchy> yupp
[07:40] <Drunken_Master> Any ideas on how to fix it ?
[07:40] <Whack> hmm, what video card is it?
[07:40] <rlount> nickrud, my butt is scarred too ;)
[07:40] <hjfkd> how much is 76gb in mb
[07:41] <GNine> 2 hours?  thats nothing.. try learning C
[07:41] <KurtKraut> hjfkd: 76/1024
[07:41] <Whack> hehe
[07:41] <scratchy> Im using the ATI driver with XGL server uuuhm 580/X1900 XT 512
[07:41] <nickrud> well, anyway, MrLinux should be up now, anyway
[07:41] <hjfkd> is 76942mb 76gb?
[07:41] <KurtKraut> hjfkd: 76*1024, sorry
[07:41] <davidthedrake> hjfkd, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte
[07:41] <GNine> i like people that likes unix
[07:41] <scratchy> it says its unsupported but I had it working before ...
[07:41] <Whack> and compize does load, just unstable?
[07:41] <Whack> *compiz
[07:42] <hjfkd> KurtKraut:  i have 76942mb free for install of ubuntu will that be the 76gb?
[07:42] <MrLinux> nickrud
[07:42] <nickrud> one of these days I'll install unix, see if I like it :)
[07:42] <scratchy> Well Compiz does load
[07:42] <MrLinux> login as: mrlinux
[07:42] <MrLinux> mrlinux@192.168.1.2's password:
[07:42] <MrLinux> Linux laptop 2.6.15-26-powerpc #1 Fri Sep 8 19:51:33 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
[07:42] <scratchy> I cant get the wobbly windows
[07:42] <davidthedrake> hjfkd, That looks like 76G
[07:42] <scratchy> But no animations or cube
[07:42] <MrLinux> nickrud thanks alot bro :P
[07:42] <scratchy> no windows decorations
[07:42] <GNine> heh
[07:42] <Whack> what happens when you enable them?
[07:43] <nickrud> MrLinux: you're welcome, we both learned a bit tonight ;)
[07:43] <MrLinux> nickrud now tell me how do get wine
[07:43] <MrLinux> nickrud on my PPC
[07:43] <Whack> MrLinux: sudo apt-get install wine
[07:43] <nickrud> MrLinux: something I don't use
[07:43] <rlount> oh, that wine!
[07:43] <hjfkd> ok whn i try to install faileas it shows me this No root file system is defined.
[07:43] <hjfkd>    Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[07:43] <MrLinux> mrlinux@laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[07:43] <MrLinux> Password:
[07:43] <MrLinux> Reading package lists... Done
[07:43] <MrLinux> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:43] <MrLinux> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:43] <MrLinux> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:43] <MrLinux> is only available from another source
[07:44] <MrLinux> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:44] <GNine> ha!  wine is good .. for gamers too
[07:44] <MrLinux> :|
[07:44] <davidthedrake> !paste | Mr_Pan
[07:44] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <kkathman> MrLinux:  also once installed, try http://frankscorner.org for a good wine reference for things that will and will not run
[07:44] <scratchy> Agreed ! Wine is Fine !
[07:44] <faileas> hjfkd: ahhh. you can do that from gparted
[07:44] <davidthedrake> Oops... meant to be directed at MrLinux
[07:44] <nickrud> Wine doesn't run on ppc I do believe
[07:44] <davidthedrake> Didn't see there was another Mr in here :)
[07:44] <MrLinux> ..
[07:44] <faileas> wine does NOT work on PPC MrLinux
[07:44] <Whack> i didn't know that
[07:44] <hjfkd> faileas:  how?
[07:44] <nickrud> wrong instruction set
[07:44] <MrLinux> faileas .. but the package is not there
[07:44] <rlount> they have Flash for PPC yet?
[07:44] <MrLinux> :|
[07:44] <KurtKraut> rlount: no
[07:44] <faileas> MrLinux: you could probably run windows or linux X86 on qemu
[07:44] <GNine> running an intel? Nickrud?
[07:45] <rlount> bummer.
[07:45] <kkathman> MrLinux:  in fact you might want to consult there first, to see if what you WANT to run, will, before you go to all that trouble
[07:45] <Whack> scratchy: i'm not sure what else to check for, if the restricted driver is working, and xgl is running, it should work
[07:45] <nickrud> GNine: ppc
[07:45] <davidthedrake> !qemu
[07:45] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:45] <Drunken_Master> I just installed Ubuntu ( 7.04 ) on my notebook ( Toshiba a75-211 ). I also downloaded the updates ... but it keeps freezing ( weird freeze: I can still move windows but nothing else works ). It happened with gaim, firefox and bash opened. Anyone knowes how to fix this ?
[07:45] <GNine> alright, nickrud
[07:45] <Whack> scratchy: did you use envy to install the driver?
[07:45] <MrLinux> ...
[07:45] <faileas> MrLinux: thats cause there is not, and should not be, and never will be a wine on PPC
[07:45] <MrLinux> :)
[07:45] <rlount> MrLinux, listen to kkathman, PPC has some shotcomings.
[07:45] <MrLinux> faileas , but some codecs ? to see an .avi file ..
[07:45] <Whack> rlount: thats probably why apple abandoned it :P
[07:45] <nickrud> nothing wrong with ppc itself
[07:45] <rlount> heh
[07:46] <kkathman> well, first and foremost, more and more distros are discontinuing ppc support
[07:46] <rlount> no, PPC is great.
[07:46] <hjfkd> faileas:  whn i try i get this The following operation could not be applied to disk:
[07:46] <hjfkd> Create Primary Partition #1 (ext3, 71.66 GiB) on /dev/sda
[07:46] <hjfkd> See the details for more information
[07:46] <scratchy> Envy ?
[07:46] <kkathman> which means, long term, the devs will give up :)
[07:46] <rlount> just limited in whats out there. good server in a pinch.
[07:46] <GNine> i run intel on my linux .. everything good
[07:46] <faileas> hjfkd: no idea then
[07:46] <Whack> yes, its a gui installer for ATI/nVidia drivers
[07:46] <kkathman> !envy
[07:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:46] <nickrud> scratchy: got distracted: install emerald, run   emerald --replace
[07:46] <hjfkd> does anyone know hwo to reinstall ubuntu ? im on live cd
[07:46] <MrLinux> nickrud, I need some codecs , to see .avi files .. :|
[07:47] <faileas> PPC isn't supported by any major company post apple
[07:47] <nickrud> !medibuntu | MrLinux
[07:47] <ubotu> MrLinux: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[07:47] <Whack> envy worked great for me, on a 9800xt
[07:47] <faileas> MrLinux: tried to see if it worked with VLC?
[07:47] <rlount> PPC is a Yeller Dog thingie.
[07:47] <GNine> i wont get into envy .. never
[07:47] <MrLinux> faileas .. :|
[07:47] <Whack> well, im still a bit noob-ish to install drivers manually :P
[07:47] <nickrud> bad for one's character
[07:48] <scratchy> Naah Still no borders
[07:48] <Whack> i had enough trouble just getting ndiswrapper to work, for my wlan card
[07:48] <GNine> whack.. your gettin more than knee deep .. yet your talkin about manual install.. ha!
[07:48] <Whack> hehe
[07:49] <faileas> rlount: Yellow Dog is just the biggest and only PPC only distro ;p
[07:49] <nickrud> scratchy: I start fusion with compiz --replace && metacity --replace , works every time. (I know, #effects)
[07:49] <davidthedrake> !offtopic
[07:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:49] <GNine> bang!
[07:49] <rlount> faileas, right! They make me want a PS3
[07:49] <nickrud> scratchy: erm, scratch metacity, emerald
[07:49] <Whack> for those of you using compiz fusion, have you notice it being a little buggy?
[07:49] <GNine> ;_0
[07:49] <GNine> :_
[07:49] <xsteelwolf_> !wlan
[07:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:50] <faileas> rlount: PS3 virtualises PPC ;p
[07:50] <davidthedrake> Whack, depends on what you mean by 'buggy.'
[07:50] <rlount> faileas, right. Cell Proc.
[07:50] <scratchy> Whack, A little ? Desktop effects is from compiz right ?
[07:50] <Whack> yeah
[07:50] <Tarkus> hi, anyone know whats the best instruction for installing "Compiz Fusion"... i found these 2. not sure what method is better. (  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481615&highlight=compiz+fusion  )    (  http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/26/The-best-way-to-install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-Feisty  )
[07:50] <rlount> faileas, same 'ol IBM behind it.
[07:50] <Whack> desktop effects is an old version though, compiz fusion is the new version, compiz+beryl combined
[07:51] <davidthedrake> Tarkus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion is a great guide.
[07:51] <faileas> rlount: yup, but the cell is a fair amount more powerful than a PPC with parallel tasks
[07:51] <seraph34> am I missing something with my wireless card? It is recognized in the network manual configuration but I just can't connect...
[07:51] <Tarkus> davidthedrake, aah, thanks.
[07:51] <rlount> faileas, I have read that. I hope to see some cool things out of it.
[07:51] <michael__> what is the chmod command to make executable scripts
[07:52] <davidthedrake> Tarkus, 7.10 will have it by default by my understanding :)
[07:52] <rlount> 700
[07:52] <michael__> thx
[07:52] <mindrape> michael - chmod +x thefile
[07:52] <Whack> anyone here have experience getting a 5 button mouse to work?
[07:52] <rlount> yeah
[07:52] <rlount> G5
[07:52] <xsteelwolf_> # title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[07:52] <xsteelwolf_> # root          (hd0,0)
[07:52] <nickrud> !mouse | Whack
[07:52] <ubotu> Whack: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:52] <scratchy> chmod (1)            - change file access permissions
[07:52] <Whack> yeah, i've been through the docs, and every page i could find on google
[07:52] <william__> hola
[07:52] <rlount> nickrud, thats cool.
[07:52] <GNine> executable files..  play by the rules there
[07:52] <xsteelwolf_> 10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4229 (rev 61) -> this mean my network wlan is not install?
[07:52] <Tarkus> davidthedrake, any idea when it comes out?
[07:52] <nickrud> rlount: what?
[07:52] <Whack> i have a unique problem though, I'm not sure what else to try
[07:52] <davidthedrake> Tarkus, nope ;)
[07:53] <rlount> nickrud, bot querry
[07:53] <Whack> i have a 7 button mouse, it has 3 thumb buttons on the left
[07:53] <rlount> simple things for simple minds!
[07:53] <nickrud> !find xserver-xorg
[07:53] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-dev, xserver-xorg-input-all, xserver-xorg-input-elographics (and 72 others)
[07:53] <KurtKraut> that is a lot of buttons
[07:53] <william__> hola alguien de Colombai
[07:53] <Whack> you would expect them to fire button evetns, button 6, 7, and 8
[07:53] <scratchy> Ha ! 7 buttons I dont even have 7 fingers
[07:53] <GNine> cool
[07:53] <william__> colombia
[07:53] <nickrud> it's a well made bot , yes. cafuego crafted
[07:53] <Whack> however, they fire keypress events, Hone, End, and Backspace
[07:54] <Whack> i have verified with xev, no button events at all
[07:54] <xsteelwolf_> 10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Unknown device 4229 (rev 61) -> this mean my network wlan is not install?
[07:54] <nickrud> oh, one of those windows mices, lol
[07:54] <nickrud> does it have a dsp?
[07:54] <KurtKraut> I was wondering how the Mac users live with one single button... ahahaha
[07:54] <Whack> i want to use them to control compiz, to initiate the shift switcher, expo, and scale plugins
[07:54] <KurtKraut> people here have more than 7 buttons in a mouse !
[07:54] <Whack> macs have 3 buttons now
[07:55] <Whack> even though the mac mouse looks like one button, it has right and left
[07:55] <KurtKraut> Whack: what an improvement... ahahaha
[07:55] <Whack> and the scroll ball is clickable
[07:55] <Whack> and it has a thumb button :P
[07:55] <william__> hola a todos los de habla hispana
[07:55] <nickrud> !es | william__
[07:55] <ubotu> william__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:55] <william__> como ?
[07:55] <Whack> i still hate them though, they just dont feel "right", like they track differently
[07:55] <Whack> feels like a gunked up ball mouse
[07:56] <KurtKraut> william__: aqui es usted tiene que hablar ingls
[07:56] <william__> ok
[07:56] <GNine> william__, !es
[07:56] <davidthedrake> Heh
[07:56] <Whack> so does anyone have any ideas why the extra buttons on my mouse would function as Home, End and Bksp keys?
[07:56] <GNine> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:57] <KurtKraut> spanish is quite hard to learn
[07:57] <davidthedrake> Whack, perhaps they auto-configured based on a text-editor?
[07:57] <bruenig> Whack, you can map the buttons to certain keys so it's not inconceivable
[07:57] <nickrud> if xev doesn
[07:57] <bruenig> !mouse
[07:57] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:57] <william__> no is very easy
[07:57] <nickrud> t  see them, that's magic
[07:57] <davidthedrake> KurtKraut, naw. Espanol es muy facil.
[07:57] <GNine> yah.. so they think in any other language bout english
[07:57] <Whack> yeah but where would they be mapped?
[07:57] <KurtKraut> davidthedrake: not for a native portuguese speaker :p
[07:57] <MrLinux> nickrud , I have the old version of Ubuntu .. I downloaded the new version and sucks.. not working good , I have the CD. the question is "I can make some upgrades of the system with the New Ubuntu CD ?"
[07:57] <Whack> using xev, they trigger KeyPress events, no click events at all
[07:57] <davidthedrake> KurtKraut, Ahhh...
[07:58] <m4st3r> hi all
[07:58] <nickrud> MrLinux: it depends on a couple of things. 1. how old is the old install, and how new the new?  2. How much software have you installed from the net?
[07:59] <rlount> Hi m4st3r.
[07:59] <william__> excuse me
[07:59] <Whack> i have been through the multi buttons mouse tutorial, but i cant get buttons 6, 7, and 8 to register
[07:59] <MrLinux> nickrud , I have Ubuntu 6.06.1 now installed on my ibook , and I have Ubuntu 7.04 on CD
[07:59] <KurtKraut> Whack: you have to agree that is a very unusual device.
[08:00] <william__> how have for channel of spanish
[08:00] <Whack> yes
[08:00] <GNine> people is getting too anxious bout gutsy
[08:00] <Whack> im beginning to think it's the device itself, sending keycodes
[08:00] <KurtKraut> william__: type /join #ubuntu-es for spanish support
[08:00] <nickrud> MrLinux: No, you don't want to do that; the only upgrade path is through each release, you can't just skip 6.10.
[08:00] <william__> ahhh thanks
[08:00] <nickrud> MrLinux: better to just reinstall
[08:01] <MrLinux> nickrud , I did that.. but :| the screen is duble . I don't know why
[08:01] <Whack> well, my next question is, does anyone have a 5 button mouse that works correctly on ubuntu?
[08:01] <nickrud> double?
[08:01] <MrLinux> nickrud yes Double ..
[08:01] <brad016> what is the command to run wine in the terminal?
[08:01] <Whack> brad016: wine <exefile>
[08:01] <nickrud> MrLinux: I don't know why, that's one I haven't heard yet
[08:02] <brad016> are you sure?
[08:02] <Whack> yes
[08:02] <brad016> thanks
[08:02] <MrLinux> nickrud , me 2 .. but I want to look like the new version .. with all the new stuff .. and the new look
[08:02] <Whack> also, you can associate exe files with wine
[08:02] <Whack> so you can double click to launch them from nautilus
[08:02] <brad016> Whack, this did not work/
[08:02] <MrLinux> nickrud , tell me please how to make a super user .. on Ubuntu
[08:02] <Whack> did you get an error?
[08:03] <nickrud> MrLinux: it's not much, in 7.04.  I'd suggest just waiting a month and getting gutsy. It has the eye candy much better put together
[08:03] <GNine> wine is all bout windows.. of of course.. gnine wouldnt know (about windows) now
[08:03] <brad016> Whack, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:03] <rathel> Hello I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:03] <hunshad> hi!
[08:03] <hunshad> everyone can help me please
[08:03] <MrLinux> nickrud , tell me please how to make a super user .. on Ubuntu
[08:03] <Whack> hmm, what was the command you gave it?
[08:03] <GNine> !sudo
[08:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:04] <nickrud> MrLinux: you don't really need one, I myself use sudo and have since long before ubuntu made a big deal of it.  ( sudo passwd)
[08:04] <brad016> Whack, wine <exefile>
[08:04] <hunshad> everyone can help me please
[08:04] <brad016> Whack, just like you gave m
[08:04] <KurtKraut> hunshad: tell what is your problem
[08:04] <hunshad> ok
[08:04] <Whack> without the < and >, right?
[08:04] <xsteelwolf_> when i type lsmod ,i see iwl4965 is installed,however when i type lspci, my networkcontroller isn't available?
[08:04] <Whack> like wine MyApp.exe?
[08:04] <brad016> okay
[08:04] <brad016> Whack, no
[08:05] <MrLinux> nickrud , I realy need another super user , please give me the command to add onother super user by default
[08:05] <KurtKraut> xtknight:
[08:05] <nickrud> MrLinux: another sudo user?
[08:05] <MrLinux> nickrud , not sudo user .. directly super user like 'root;
[08:05] <xsteelwolf_> need help! when i type lsmod ,i see iwl4965 is installed,however when i type lspci, my networkcontroller isn't available?
[08:05] <KurtKraut> xsteelwolf_: lsmod means that the module is loaded in the kernel. lspci means what piece of hardware was detected
[08:05] <nickrud> MrLinux: look back, I did
[08:05] <xsteelwolf_> oh
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_> my hardware isn't detected but module is installed
[08:06] <rlount> xsteelwolf_, what does iwconfig tell you?
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_> what should i do
 MrLinux: you don't really need one, I myself use sudo and have since long before ubuntu made a big deal of it.  ( sudo passwd)
[08:06] <Whack> brad016: if you want wine to run a file called MyApp.exe, then you would type wine MyApp.exe
[08:06] <KurtKraut> xsteelwolf_: from here and beyond, I don't know t
[08:06] <nickrud> MrLinux: yup, it's in that line :)
[08:06] <KurtKraut> xsteelwolf_: from here and beyond, I don't know what to do :P
[08:06] <hunshad>  I try to make run ragnarok with wine and when I launch it, I see the wine application starting and disappearing in bottom from my screen! Without leaving any error
[08:06] <nickrud> MrLinux: sudo passwd
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"XsteelWolf"
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:14:BF:04:C2:AE
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_>           Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[08:06] <xsteelwolf_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[08:06] <brad016> Whack, no, how do i run "wine" the base program?
[08:07] <MrLinux> nickrud just type that ? 'sudo passwd' ? but the user ?
[08:07] <Whack> what do you mean the base program?
[08:07] <nickrud> MrLinux: that will set the root password, root is the 'super user'
[08:07] <rlount> xsteelwolf_, thats a big goose egg.
[08:07] <hunshad> how i can write in red
[08:07] <xsteelwolf_> ?
[08:07] <KurtKraut> hunshad: avoid using colors here.
[08:07] <rlount> your hardware is not playing nice.
[08:07] <MrLinux> nickrud bro .. you don't understand me :) not to change the root password. I need to make a new user with the root privilegy
[08:08] <rlount> all the 0's for signal etc... no good.
[08:08] <hunshad>  I try to make run ragnarok with wine and when I launch it, I see the wine application starting and disappearing in bottom from my screen! Without leaving any error
[08:08] <nickrud> MrBrizzio: a new sudo user then.    sudo adduser <user> admin
[08:08] <lewis> hi
[08:08] <xsteelwolf_> red
[08:08] <hunshad> this is my problem
[08:08] <KurtKraut> hunshad: there is a setting in wine that you emulate a whole desktop. Try turning that on
[08:09] <lewis> my sound suddently cut off for some reasons while I was watching a video on youtube and I have absolutly no idea why
[08:09] <lewis> I tried to restard firefox but nothing
[08:09] <hunshad> how
[08:09] <KurtKraut> lewis: restart you whole session
[08:09] <lewis> KurtKraut, how do I do that ..I log off?
[08:09] <KurtKraut> hunshad: I cant remember how
[08:09] <hunshad> scuse me for my bad english
[08:09] <KurtKraut> lewis: yes
[08:10] <hunshad> i come here because all french people are sleeping
[08:10] <MrLinux> nickrud are you here ?
[08:10] <hunshad> ok
[08:10] <nickrud> MrLinux: yup
[08:10] <hunshad> i will read more on wine
[08:10] <MrLinux> nickrud bro .. you don't understand me :) not to change the root password. I need to make a new user with the root privilegy
[08:10] <Whack> lewis: you can press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart session and log back in
[08:10] <GNine> !root
[08:10] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:10] <nickrud> MrLinux: I just told you:  sudo adduser <user> admin
[08:11] <GNine> dont tell that to windoze users.. they might wake up
[08:11] <Whack> if you're doing alot of commands as root, you can also do su root
[08:11] <MrLinux> nickrud
[08:11] <MrLinux> root@SRT:~# adduser boot admin
[08:11] <MrLinux> adduser: The user `boot' does not exist.
[08:11] <MrLinux> root@SRT:~#
[08:11] <Whack> to avoid having to type sudo over and over
[08:11] <nickrud> MrLinux: you first have to create the user, of course, system->admin->users
[08:12] <bruenig> Whack, the root account is disabled by default so they would have to unlock that also
[08:12] <GNine> yay!
[08:12] <Whack> hmm, i must have enabled mine, i dont remember doing it
[08:12] <KurtKraut> scratchy: stop talking about food... I'm hungry and my fridge is empty... I'll only have something to eat tomorrow ;P
[08:12] <xsteelwolf_> is there anyway to make sudo apt-get or wget to support concurrent connections just like download accelerator?
[08:12] <MrLinux> nickrud , .. I working now just with the console .. tell the command to add an user to Ubuntu by connsole
[08:12] <nickrud> MrLinux: ah.  sudo adduser user
[08:12] <favoritefood0> I got it working!!! <3 compiz!
[08:13] <KurtKraut> xsteelwolf_: not easily... because concurrent downloads is considered abusive.
[08:13] <favoritefood0> n_n
[08:13] <Whack> hehe
[08:13] <GNine> **by the way.. am not here to muck new users.. i just like reading.. and thats how i FIXED MY mistakes on linux
[08:13] <XsteelWolf> but im getting like 1000bytes per sec only
[08:13] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: y
[08:13] <bruenig> XsteelWolf, changing the mirror might be a better way of fixing that
[08:13] <rlount> GNine, old school!
[08:13] <scratchy> Oh btw Envy (which stands for Nvidia) is a little helper for the NVIDIA drivers .... Mister Ati doesnt not want it
[08:13] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: try finding a fasted mirror
[08:13] <XsteelWolf> Don't know,stupid mirror
[08:13] <nickrud> I was a pest on some mail lists, I owe
[08:13] <XsteelWolf> that's my local mirror...
[08:13] <bruenig> so
[08:13] <bruenig> change it
[08:13] <Whack> envy does ATI drivers also
[08:13] <scratchy> it does ?
[08:13] <MrLinux> nickrud , thanks a log bro ! you are the best :P
[08:14] <Whack> yeah, i used it on my ati
[08:14] <bruenig> !envy | scratchy Whack
[08:14] <ubotu> scratchy Whack: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[08:14] <XsteelWolf> im able to get 1mb/s off some archives i try using a web browser
[08:14] <XsteelWolf> but when its apt-get ,it will drop to like 10kb/s only
[08:14] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: are you using Feisty ?
[08:14] <rlount> XsteelWolf, thats because hogging bandwidth is considered rude.
[08:14] <XsteelWolf> gutsy
[08:15] <rlount> servers are throttled.
[08:15] <Whack> if you're nervous, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first
[08:15] <bruenig> it is more than that
[08:15] <GNine> always backup
[08:15] <rlount> but 10/k is harsh
[08:15] <XsteelWolf> takes hrs to install...
[08:15] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: under the System/Administration menu there is a tool that you can detect the fasts mirror for your connections.
[08:15] <XsteelWolf> i really need to speed this up
[08:15] <scratchy> Well Im not sure If I should use it. I mean Its working ... without compiz but its working
[08:15] <bruenig> don't use click and pray
[08:15] <Whack> is it a fresh ubuntu install?
[08:15] <XsteelWolf> what's that call under kde?
[08:15] <bruenig> why would you use linux and then revert to click and pray'
[08:16] <nickrud> lol, that's taking self reliance to self immolation territory
[08:16] <bruenig> what's the point even
[08:16] <rpg> ubuntu is great
[08:16] <bruenig> !ot | rpg
[08:16] <favoritefood0> IDK...command line is the best.
[08:16] <favoritefood0> lol
[08:16] <rpg> hi evry1
[08:16] <ubotu> rpg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:16] <bruenig> what happen to ubotu
[08:16] <rlount> XsteelWolf, most likely there are another million or so peeps thinking the same thing... "this needs to speed up" and all are on the same repo.
[08:16] <bruenig> must be lagging
[08:16] <KurtKraut> Oh my... now IRC will get boring
[08:16] <rlount> KurtKraut, ooooh the horror!
[08:17] <XsteelWolf> kurtkraut,what's the thing call under kde?
[08:17] <nickrud> there's always a store
[08:17] <XsteelWolf> i can't find it to test the mirrors
[08:17] <Whack> any of you guys run ubuntu on a mac?
[08:17] <favoritefood0> KurtKraut: I got it to work. The Cube kinda works!!!
[08:17] <bruenig> !anyone
[08:17] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:17] <favoritefood0> Its great!
[08:17] <KurtKraut> favoritefood0: I'm glad to know that :D
[08:17] <nickrud> favoritefood0: try out expose, it's much classier
[08:17] <rpg> What new features will Gutsy have?
[08:17] <GNine> ok.. windows is fast .. go ahead.. you want unix based system..  0 = 1
[08:17] <favoritefood0> KurtKraut: I'm using the desktop expo right now
[08:17] <bruenig> !ot | rpg
[08:17] <favoritefood0> I like it more
[08:17] <ubotu> rpg: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:17] <Whack> yeah, expose is awesome
[08:17] <Whack> shift switcher is uber cool too
[08:18] <fainraven> can any one help me get beryl working when i installed it it disabled cube affects and none of the setings i change in the manager do any thing
[08:18] <scratchy> aaaaah My house is black on smoke, just left some toast in the toaster which burned to crisp ... And all I wanted was my own home made tuna sanwich
[08:18] <XsteelWolf> kurtkraut, you still with me?
[08:18] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: yes
[08:18] <XsteelWolf> what is that thing call?
[08:18] <Whack> nickrud: it's under window management
[08:18] <XsteelWolf> or can i type in terminal  to pop it out?
[08:19] <nickrud> Whack: thanks :)
[08:19] <rathel> Hello I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:19] <nickrud> ah, that's where they stuck ring switcher
[08:19] <Avulture> what is the importance of  the terminal in ubuntu ?
[08:19] <XsteelWolf> Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/source'
[08:19] <XsteelWolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[08:19] <XsteelWolf> what is this error?
[08:19] <Avulture> or in Linux Generally
[08:19] <KurtKraut> XsteelWolf: I'm using Ubuntu in portuguese... I think in english this is called 'Software Channels'
[08:20] <bruenig> Avulture, it is the most important thing if you wish to have any linux independence
[08:20] <bruenig> if you wish to continue click and pray dependence on a distro, then not as much, although realize when that distro messes up, you go down with it
[08:20] <GNine> :)
[08:20] <Avulture> bruenig, is it the same as Windows command prompt ?
[08:20] <XsteelWolf> kurt ,i don't see it
[08:21] <bruenig> Avulture, no.........................
[08:22] <nickrud> looks similar, though
[08:22] <KurtKraut> nickrud: there is a tool under the System/Administration menu that has an option that pings all repository mirrors in order to find the fastest... can you tell XsteelWolf how to reach this tool ?
[08:22] <GNine> point & click is windows.. do NOT
[08:22] <Avulture> bruenig, any good site for Linux beginners ?
[08:23] <bruenig> not that I know of, I don't learn well like that so I didn't use such things
[08:23] <bruenig> I am more of a identify a problem, read up until I figure out how to do it, then read up a bunch of stuff that I don't know how to apply really
[08:23] <bruenig> than*
[08:23] <GNine> Avulture, if this is not good enuff youre hopeless.. but .. youre also new.. go google some stuff and come back
[08:24] <nickrud> XsteelWolf: system->admin->software sources, click the 'download from:' dropdown, and select other. There's a button 'select best server'
[08:24] <Whack> bruenig: lol i do the same
[08:24] <KurtKraut> nickrud: thanks
[08:24] <nickrud> KurtKraut: np
[08:24] <Whack> i learn 90% of my computer skills from fixing stuff that i've broken :P
[08:24] <scratchy> ok installing envy,
[08:24] <scratchy> wasnt in the standard rep..
[08:24] <Avulture> GNine, what Did you mean by THIS? what 're you refering to ?
[08:24] <bruenig> !envy | scratchy realize if failure occurs, you will not have support here
[08:24] <ubotu> scratchy realize if failure occurs, you will not have support here: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[08:24] <nickrud> Whack: there is no better way :)
[08:24] <Le^stat> morning
[08:24] <Whack> yeah, its a third party script
[08:25] <hunshad> KurtKrault
[08:25] <Whack> scratchy: i did the automatic install and it worked for me, but if you have problems, you might try manual install and using the older version
[08:25] <XsteelWolf> is that kde or gnome?im on kde
[08:25] <hunshad> KurtKraut*
[08:25] <scratchy> So can someone please give me some positive news
[08:25] <scratchy> :)
[08:25] <GNine> this as in an whole hour around linux jargon .. hell.. am already hellstruck
[08:25] <cerealkilla> stupid question, i know.. but oh wells. how can i check to see what version of X im runnin?
[08:25] <GNine> :-P
[08:26] <scratchy> too late Im already running the script
[08:26] <scratchy> Well it has been fun talking to you guys
[08:26] <rathel> Hello I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:26] <nickrud> XsteelWolf: ah gnome. Don't know the kde way, but I'd figure it's in adept. Or, maybe in the update manager, or add/remove if kde has it
[08:26] <jeffhjk> can someone help me with a reinstall of ubuntu
[08:26] <scratchy> Im gonna do my sabbatical now since I dnt have money for a new pc
[08:26] <scratchy> oooh I CAN
[08:27] <scratchy> Open your cdrom..put live cd in... and reboot
[08:27] <scratchy> :)
[08:27] <jeffhjk> i done that
[08:27] <GNine> scratchty.. youll be fine in the mourning.. just remember there is no spoon
[08:27] <nickrud> cerealkilla:  just type    X -version in a terminal
[08:27] <jeffhjk> but it sayes something about root
[08:27] <Avulture> GNine, you didn't answer me ,, what did you mean by THIS>..as if you gave to me a certain site and i found it to be mouldy :S
[08:27] <dhq>  which is the best gui antivirus and firewall for kubuntu
[08:27] <scratchy> Please wait, While Envy crashes you computer...
[08:27] <XsteelWolf> can someone tell me why im able to make a file im getting kernel makefile not found at /libs/.... i already sudo apt-get install linux-source
[08:27] <Whack> lol
[08:27] <william__> ubuntu-es
[08:28] <bruenig> dhq, anti-virus for what?
[08:28] <hunshad> KurtKraut oes that have relationship with my problem http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/config-wine-main
[08:28] <KurtKraut> dhq: since there is no harmful virus for Linux, an antivirus is not needed for Ubuntu
[08:28] <hunshad> ?
[08:28] <KurtKraut> hunshad: I'm not a Wine expert. Can't help you on that;
[08:28] <Whack> hardware firewall here
[08:28] <dhq> KurtKraut, firewal??
[08:28] <hunshad> oik
[08:28] <jeffhjk> can someone help me i am having problems with a reinstall of ubuntu feisty im on live cd and i am getting errors about having to be root to do the install
[08:28] <bruenig> !iptables | dhq
[08:28] <ubotu> dhq: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:28] <Avulture> ugh
[08:28] <hunshad> who can help me with wine
[08:29] <GNine> this  :  this room..  all the input .. have you got anything yet?
[08:29] <XsteelWolf> Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/source'
[08:29] <XsteelWolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[08:29] <XsteelWolf> what is this error?
[08:29] <dhq> hunshad, well #winehq
[08:29] <Avulture> iam not an alcohlic sorry :P husband
[08:29] <bruenig> !repeat | XsteelWolf
[08:29] <ubotu> XsteelWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:29] <cerealkilla> anyone? easiest question of the night... how can i find out what version of x.org im running? =)
[08:29] <nickrud> it's late. Night all
[08:29] <aop> hi
[08:29] <lelilu> Hello. After some time using regretably Fedora (cause of its shortly dropped releases), I'm going to switch distro. In doubt between Debian or Ubuntu. I'll use it for both desktop and server environments. Any recommendation please? (also concerning differences about server configuration/administration). Thanks.
[08:29] <Avulture> GNine, what do you expect ? guys here are asking mainly about their troubleshooting
[08:30] <cerealkilla> i tried x --about and startx --help, but no luck there
[08:30] <aop> I've got a problem I am trying to change my password in the recovory mode and every time I type in passwd or passwd bas(bas being the user name) it hard locks after it pulls up the line for enter new unix password: i try and type anything in and it does not respond at all
[08:30] <jeffhjk> anyone want to help me with a reinstall of ubuntu i am on live cd but am getting errors about having to be root
[08:30] <Avulture> How come for the one could learn from that. before he has an adequate information
[08:30] <william__> hola como hago para conectarme al canal en espaol
[08:30] <GNine> what are YOU asking about
[08:30] <hunshad> thanx dhq
[08:30] <evar> cerealkilla, X -version will work
[08:30] <Whack> lelilu: well of course we're going to vote for ubuntu
[08:30] <Whack> besides, ubuntu IS debian
[08:30] <cerealkilla> ah... -version k lemme try
[08:30] <Le^stat> i have seen the light!
[08:30] <Le^stat> thank thelord
[08:30] <bruenig> lelilu, I vote for arch
[08:30] <Le^stat> a ubuntu irc channel
[08:31] <Whack> i vote for anything but gentoo lol
[08:31] <cerealkilla> evar: i had tried X --version, just one - works great though! thanks so much!
[08:31] <Avulture> GNine, so you answerd me even before knowing what was my question,, that's a very attactive attitude , not a good one really
[08:31] <rlount> Le^stat, line editors suck.
[08:31] <evar> yup
[08:31] <xstasi> meh
[08:31] <Le^stat> line editoes?
[08:31] <Whack> i am too noobish for gentoo
[08:31] <GNine> i know.. i have also mentioned it as well.. Avulture
[08:31] <GNine> ;-
[08:31] <Le^stat> i'm noobish for ubuntu
[08:31] <Le^stat> :P
[08:32] <Whack> so am i, but it has enough gui utilities to keep me going :P
[08:32] <Le^stat> yeah
[08:32] <evar> Whack, gentoo was my first distro. You just have to read and be patient but you do learn lots
[08:32] <seraph34> am I missing something with my wireless card? It is recognized in the network manual configuration but I just can't connect...
[08:32] <jeffhjk> i am trying to do a reinstall of ubuntu and am getting this error No root file system is defined.
[08:32] <jeffhjk> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[08:32] <Le^stat> but i want to break away from gui
[08:32] <bruenig> gentoo is not difficult, you just have to learn how it does things, just like you do with any distro
[08:32] <rlount> Le^stat, line editors show one line at a time. IRC isn't supposed to be about making a point with hitting "Enter" all the time ;)
[08:32] <Whack> yeah, but building everything from source sucks
[08:32] <bruenig> it has the best wiki of any distro out there
[08:32] <Le^stat> ahh
[08:32] <Le^stat> well it came with ubuntu
[08:32] <scratchy> HA !
[08:33] <scratchy> it worked !
[08:33] <scratchy> Extended desktop and EVERYTHING
[08:33] <bruenig> Whack, you don't actually do anything, that's the point, it builds it for you
[08:33] <Whack> i've never had to use the 'make' command on ubuntu, not once :P
[08:33] <rlount> heh
[08:33] <evar> Whack, yea all the compiling with the initial install does get pretty crappy heh
[08:33] <scratchy> Envy rules !
[08:33] <bruenig> Whack, you don't use it in gentoo either
[08:33] <rlount> Whack, really? d00d, epic.
[08:33] <Whack> i watched someone do it once, it took a couple hours just to compile all the junk
[08:33] <bruenig> Whack, here is the difference, apt-get install xchat and emerge xchat
[08:33] <Le^stat> .deb packages rock
[08:33] <Whack> scratchy: is your compiz working better now?
[08:33] <Le^stat> :)
[08:33] <bruenig> now I would say the second one is easier
[08:33] <Le^stat> specially for 3g
[08:34] <aop> howdy
[08:34] <jeffhjk> please someone helpme i am getting this error whn i try to do a reinstall of ubuntu No root file system is defined.
[08:34] <jeffhjk> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[08:34] <Whack> oh, i thought you had to manually make all of the packages
[08:34] <evar> no
[08:34] <bruenig> .deb is an inferior binary packaging format, inferior to arch's .pkg.tar.gz
[08:34] <Avulture> Guys, my question , why terminal still an important interface for Linux users.. didn't you think instead of text commands the one could do the mission with the aid of a GUI programme ?
[08:34] <abc> I just downloaded and extracted a .tar.gz package. how do I compile it?
[08:34] <Whack> Avulture: yes, but are you going to write GUI's to replace all of the command line apps?
[08:35] <bruenig> Avulture, guis are front ends and they fail
[08:35] <scratchy> Thanks Whack !
[08:35] <aop> i got a question for ya'll real quick
[08:35] <Whack> besides, there is some stuff that's just easier from command line
[08:35] <scratchy>  Im envious
[08:35] <scratchy> :)
[08:35] <webpirate> anyone here?
[08:35] <Whack> scratchy: no problem, lol i take it compiz is working now?
[08:35] <rlount> webpirate, nope.
[08:35] <Le^stat> heh
[08:35] <webpirate> I need help...I can't remember the name of the program I need to record my desktop.....
[08:35] <Avulture> Whack,  So terminal is just the real Linux world ?
[08:36] <Whack> well, it depends what you're doing
[08:36] <marx2k> sort of
[08:36] <hunshad> #winehq
[08:36] <rlount> webpirate, like record things you are doing?
[08:36] <rlount> wasn't it istanbul?
[08:36] <Tarkus> hey, i just got compiz-fusion working. and im trying to get 4 workspaces enabled so i get a cube instead of a flat paper object.. (atm i have 2 workspaces).. any suggestions?
[08:36] <Whack> for an office machine that does spreadsheets/word processing, you probably would never need it
[08:36] <bruenig> Avulture, the point is this, what happens when the packaging overlords screw up and you boot and don't have a gui?
[08:36] <webpirate> like making a movie my actions
[08:36] <bruenig> Avulture, as has happened before in ubuntu
[08:36] <rlount> or constantinople or something.... pardon the spelling.
[08:36] <aop> I'm trying to change a password on ubuntu in the recovry mode and i type in passwd command or passwd bas(bas being the username) and it just locks up after i hit enter it displays the new line Enter new UNIX password: but it will not let me type anything at all and just sits there
[08:36] <Whack> Tarkus: set to 4 workspaces
[08:36] <bruenig> Avulture, reinstall time for you if you don't know your way around the terminal
[08:36] <Avulture> bruenig, i think you are right
[08:37] <rlount> yeah... webpirate http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[08:37] <bruenig> I mean gui is great and use it, but know what you are doing at least so that when the people who put the 9000 pieces of software together occasionally fail you aren't left to reinstall
[08:37] <evar> aop, type in the password and press enter. passwd doesn't show any output when you are typing in a password
[08:37] <rlount> webpirate, sudo aptitude search istanbul
[08:37] <webpirate> Ahhh..thats right....For the life of me I could not remember and I am on 2nd year with linux..
[08:37] <webpirate> :)
[08:37] <Avulture> so bruenig Terminal is only for critical problems which can't be done with usual GUI ?
[08:37] <Tarkus> Whack, yes, thats what im trying to do..
[08:37] <Le^stat> i'm still in first 6months
[08:38] <aop> ok thanks evar
[08:38] <Le^stat> of linux
[08:38] <Le^stat> :(
[08:38] <bruenig> Avulture, the terminal is far easier to do many many things and most who know it prefer it
[08:38] <Tarkus> Whack, i cant find it in my compiz settings.
[08:38] <marx2k> Avulture, terminal is for direct commands
[08:38] <webpirate> I find the terminal a life saver for most operations because you can see error messages..
[08:38] <rlount> webpirate, np. I forget so much crap all the time it's a wonder I can even breathe.
[08:38] <jeffhjk> hi whn i try to reinstall ubuntu i get this error No root file system is defined.
[08:38] <jeffhjk>  Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[08:38] <marx2k> meaning you can do most everything in the GUI but at some point you will want to do things faster and with more preciseness
[08:38] <marx2k> well and I guess you might use it to compile stuff or run shell scripts...
[08:39] <Avulture> bruenig, DO you think in the near future , OSes would still depend on terminals ?
[08:39] <rlount> why do I get a EOF... damnit to 9 hells...
[08:39] <webpirate> Like Xine for example I can't start from the Gui..I always want to see whats going on so I go to console and trpe xine --verbose.....
[08:39] <Greenbox> hey, is there a package I need to install for the basic java.* imports in ubuntu?
[08:39] <bruenig> the terminal will always be there because it is the best way to do things
[08:39] <marx2k> Avulture, I hgpe they do
[08:39] <marx2k> hope
[08:39] <bruenig> if I need to remove all the .jpgs files recursively in a directory, how do I do that via gui?
[08:39] <GNine> terminals are the puter.. if you want to be the computer .. welcome to C
[08:39] <marx2k> It would be awful not to be able to drop down to a terminal and do what I need to do
[08:39] <Whack> Tarkus: type this in terminal: 'sudo gconf-editor'
[08:39] <webpirate> the best way I found to install jave is to actually use automatix......
[08:39] <rlount> if you want to be C... welcome to assembler
[08:40] <Avulture> marx2k, so to learn Linux means to learn Terminal commands
[08:40] <marx2k> bruenig, ctrl+click, click, click, click
[08:40] <marx2k> Avulture, nope... but terminal commands are good to know
[08:40] <bruenig> webpirate, that's ridiculous, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[08:40] <bruenig> webpirate, in fact that's all automatix does
[08:40] <webpirate> I think to remove all file on the hdd with *.jpg is with the RM -r
[08:40] <Greenbox> bruenig, i've done that
[08:40] <Whack> Tarkus: then browse to apps > compiz > general > screen0 > options
[08:40] <jeffhjk> hi whn i try to reinstall ubuntu i get this error No root file system is defined.
[08:40] <jeffhjk>  Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[08:40] <Greenbox> but I can't compile java programs
[08:40] <Avulture> marx2k, how many terminal commands which exist ?
[08:40] <Whack> Tarkus: then change "hsize" to 4
[08:40] <Greenbox> it can't find imports for it
[08:40] <marx2k> you can run linux without terminal just like you can run windows without going to DOS... but at some point.... youll want to use it
[08:40] <marx2k> Avulture, basically everything you do in linux has a terminal counterpart
[08:41] <bruenig> Avulture, terminal commands is a bit misleading, a program can be run in the terminal, if you call that a command, than it is the number of programs that exist
[08:41] <bruenig> everything you do in windows has a terminal counterpart
[08:41] <Whack> Tarkus: got all that?
[08:41] <Tarkus> Whack, it is already set to 4.
[08:41] <webpirate> yes...but for some reason Apt-get sometimes does not notify other programs of the Sun java install and the other program use the open source java....with automatix it somehow tells all the program that java is installed..
[08:41] <Greenbox> bruenig, that's not true
[08:41] <marx2k> Avulture, go to a terminal and type help
[08:41] <jeffhjk> hi whn i try to reinstall ubuntu i get this error No root file system is defined.
[08:41] <jeffhjk>  Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[08:41] <rathel> Hello I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:41] <Whack> hmm, then cube should be working
[08:41] <Greenbox> there's very little in windows you can do that has a terminal counterpart
[08:41] <picodon> bruenig: including paint?
[08:41] <Avulture> bruenig, i meant general commands.. like for example Ping for windows
[08:41] <bruenig> picodon, absolutely you can launch paint from cmd
[08:41] <Avulture> marx2k, that was the reason coming here
[08:42] <Avulture> i lost my ubuntu password
[08:42] <marx2k> Avulture, yep its in there
[08:42] <webpirate> And the windows terminal does not give you the step by step errors..
[08:42] <Avulture> so i have to reinstall it again
[08:42] <marx2k> howd you lose your ubuntu password?
[08:42] <jeffhjk> hi whn i try to reinstall ubuntu i get this error No root file system is defined.
[08:42] <jeffhjk>  Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[08:42] <Whack> windows terminal does not have grep... your best friend lol
[08:42] <webpirate> Linux Terminal tells you everything.....
[08:42] <webpirate> missing files...seg faults........
[08:42] <bruenig> Whack, grep is a program
[08:42] <Avulture> Whack, windows termianl all what it could do.. very few commands
[08:43] <GNine> windows depends on its booklet of apps
[08:43] <Avulture> Dir,,Copy.... ping
[08:43] <Whack> well so does linux, in /bin
[08:43] <GNine> nah.. if you have a direct command line for ONE single entry .. you have root
[08:43] <marx2k> basically, all the commands in /bin and /sbin can be run in the terminal
[08:43] <Avulture> bruenig,  i even didn't try to use windows terminal if i lost my admin password
[08:44] <bruenig> Whack, linux does not depend on those nor do those things depend on linux, see solaris
[08:44] <Avulture> since my admin account has no password
[08:44] <evar> Avulture, for future reference if you forget your password there are ways to change the password if you forget it
[08:44] <Avulture> but iam so curious to know , how could that be done :D
[08:44] <webpirate> I like how in linux if you mess up and create a total mess all you have to do it CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE he he he...
[08:44] <Whack> lol yeah
[08:44] <marx2k> Ubuntu has no admin account
[08:44] <rlount> I think about the only thing GNU/Linux depends on is a math lib and glibc
[08:44] <webpirate> ubuntu uses Sudo....way better than a root command..
[08:44] <Whack> ctrl+alt+f1 is handy too, if the system locks
[08:44] <bruenig> webpirate, calm down
[08:45] <webpirate> I mean root account
[08:45] <webpirate> :)
[08:45] <Avulture> :) alot of Linux information :D
[08:45] <bruenig> root is necessary for some things
[08:45] <NINJ4\afk> Hey, I'm having issues with reinstalling ubuntu on my new dell box, it has drivers for the ethernet card, but apparently they only work with the kernal 2.6.20, and since I need these drivers to get the network connection to work, I can't update the kernal the regular way, is there anyway to manually download it so I can put it on my other computer by a flash drive?
[08:45] <webpirate> yes..but root account is not.....sudo works just as well...
[08:45] <evar> eh? like what
[08:45] <marx2k> Avulture, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-bash.html
[08:45] <jeffhjk> cant someone pelase help me
[08:45] <jeffhjk> please*
[08:45] <Myrtti> !repeat | jeffhjk
[08:45] <ubotu> jeffhjk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:46] <bruenig> webpirate, it does not, I would like to see you use slim login manager without a root account
[08:46] <jeffhjk> Myrtti:  i have asked 20 times
[08:46] <Myrtti> !attitude | jeffhjk
[08:46] <ubotu> jeffhjk: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:46] <webpirate> Yes....Goot point...my bad
[08:46] <marx2k> jeff__k, : please go to terminal and tell me the results of "sudo mount -a"
[08:46] <Avulture> marx2k, So do you mean that Bash learning is my way to understand LINUX ?
[08:46] <jeffhjk> i am reinstalling and i am getting this error No root file system is defined.
[08:46] <jeffhjk> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.\
[08:47] <Whack> where would i look to find how my mouse buttons are mapped? the extra buttons on my mouse are registering as key presses
[08:47] <marx2k> Avulture, learning bash well would make you a linux power user
[08:47] <marx2k> Whack: /etc/X11/xorg.conf for one
[08:47] <jetscreamer> /join #bash
[08:47] <jantje> hi
[08:47] <rlount> jeffhjk, rerun the installer, tell it to auto partition.
[08:47] <Myrtti> jeffhjk: if no-one is answering, then noone either has time or knows the answer
[08:47] <GNine> bash is your GF in linux
[08:47] <rlount> jeffhjk, if dual booting be careful.
[08:47] <webpirate> jeff >> I think your harddrive does not have a mount point of "/"
[08:47] <Avulture> i have to search for Bash in google marx2k
[08:47] <bruenig> just learn a shell, it doesn't have to be bash
[08:47] <Whack> marx2k: i have looked in there, and tried both protocols ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2
[08:47] <bruenig> it can be csh
[08:47] <jeffhjk> rlount:  i am dual booting with xp
[08:47] <jantje> can somebody help me with wireless networking in ubuntu?
[08:48] <Whack> also have Buttons set to 8
[08:48] <marx2k> Avulture, I gave you a decent link for a starting point
[08:48] <Avulture> marx2k, any good sites you found to be good in teaching bash ?
[08:48] <Avulture> marx2k, ayoh ;)
[08:48] <marx2k> Whack,  are you in gnome?
[08:48] <webpirate> you need to have a SWAP partition and an install partition....usually EXT2 or EXT3 for best results
[08:48] <rlount> jeffhjk, there is no / to install to. and Ubuntu will want a / partition to stick things in. If it's not there you need to make one.
[08:48] <Whack> marx2k: yes
[08:48] <rlount> phuck ext2
[08:48] <xsteelwolf_> anyone on intel 4965agn?
[08:48] <webpirate> when you start to install ubuntu select manaul for partion edit..
[08:48] <jantje> I want to configure my d-link dongle in ubuntu, somebody can help me please?
[08:48] <chovy> how do i get flash9 for ubuntu64?
[08:49] <CapaH> Hi, question. I am using enhanced zoom and my problem is when I zoom in and then I move the mouse -- the screen moves also. I want the screen to stay still yet still be able to interact with applications. Can anyone help me?
[08:49] <GNine> EXT3 is linux in my monkey side
[08:49] <Avulture> even IRC depends on text commands :D
[08:49] <marx2k> Whack,  man, I used to know this... Im in KDE right now
[08:49] <bruenig> xsteelwolf_, ndiswrapper
[08:49] <CapaH> This is with Compiz btw
[08:49] <NINJ4> is there a way to manually install the 2.6.20 kernel?  I can't get on the internet with one box that needs that kernel to get on the internet XD
[08:49] <webpirate> then make a swap partition that is 1 1/2 times the size of your ram and a partition with the mount point of "/"
[08:49] <jetscreamer> i think it's only flash 8 but i can't swear
[08:49] <Whack> marx2k: hehe, i gave up after 3 hours of searching and trying settings
[08:49] <rlount> jeffhjk, swap should be twice your memory unless you have some otherworldly amount.
[08:49] <evar> wow slim is pretty rad
[08:50] <marx2k> but basically you want to go to a terminal and ... damn... I forgot the command to find out to see what key was pressed
[08:50] <bruenig> chovy, there is no flash for 64 bit
[08:50] <marx2k> I had to do this to map my laptop function keys
[08:50] <Whack> xev?
[08:50] <rlount> jeffhjk, the root or "/" partition should be as big as you can make it.
[08:50] <jeffhjk> rlount:  i cant even make /dev/sda2
[08:50] <jetscreamer> you don't need a huge swap unless you do things like modeling or graphics editing or other memory intensive apps
[08:50] <marx2k> Yes, Xev
[08:50] <chovy> bruenig: but there is a way to run them with Opera + 32-bit libs.
[08:50] <Doctor_Nick> hey, somehow i turned off repeating keys on my keyboard, anyone know how to turn them back on again/
[08:50] <rlount> jeffhjk, how are you trying to make /dev/sda2?
[08:50] <jeffhjk> rlount:  i am trying to make the ubuntu 70gb
[08:50] <rlount> via the installer?
[08:50] <marx2k> and then find out what the opcode is and then in System Settings or something there should be a hotkey or shortcut config
[08:50] <jetscreamer> hd space is cheap, but you could always make a swapfile later if you needed more
[08:50] <webpirate> yes 1 1/2 to 2 times your ram will do
[08:50] <bruenig> chovy, yes, if you can get the 32 bit libs all in place or a chroot, it can be done
[08:50] <rlount> jeffhjk, ah.
[08:50] <Whack> marx2k: yeah, i did that, the left, right, and middle mouse buttons register normally, but the 3 thumb buttons register as KeyPress events
[08:51] <chovy> bruenig: i can just use 32-libs for flash only?
[08:51] <rlount> jeffhjk, you have Ubuntu installed and want more room?
[08:51] <Avulture> marx2k, what is the equivalent of bash in windows ?
[08:51] <jeffhjk> rlount:  can u join me in room #wwed please i am loosing u with all this floding
[08:51] <Whack> marx2k: Home, End, and Backspace for some reason...
[08:51] <bruenig> chovy, you need a 32 bit browser
[08:51] <KurtKraut> Avulture: I'd say that there is no equivalent
[08:51] <webpirate> To use Flash 9 remember that if you are on 64bit you need to install 32bit Browser
[08:51] <kalani> does anybody know how I can look at the whole cube in beryl?
[08:51] <marx2k> so use the SCIM Input Editor to map those keypress events to a function
[08:51] <marx2k> oh...thats weird
[08:51] <chovy> baah...flash sucks...always has
[08:51] <GNine> jeff.. youre full of it] 
[08:51] <marx2k> Avulture, DOS.. sort of
[08:51] <jetscreamer> vbscript wmiscripting other batchfiles command line syntax
[08:51] <client02> mesengger
[08:51] <zetheroo> I am trying to install Pidgin ...... but I get an error : checking for msgfmt... no
[08:52] <kkathman> kalam ctrl-alt-move mouse
[08:52] <Whack> marx2k: scim input editor? hangon, i'm googling that
[08:52] <jetscreamer> perl for windows
[08:52] <Miranda> if I delete windows and change to ubuntu, and my computer crashes, what should I do
[08:52] <marx2k> It's under the Settings menu, whack
[08:52] <bruenig> Miranda, turn it back on
[08:52] <kkathman> kalam well ctrl+alt+click and move mouse :)
[08:52] <zetheroo> I am trying to install Pidgin ...... but I get an error : checking for msgfmt... no
[08:52] <webpirate> You can search for ubuntu 3 in 1 script that will install it for you....but adobe FTP site is REALLY slow
[08:52] <Miranda> bruenig: but, if I turn it on, it doesn't turn on
[08:52] <Whack> oh, i found it :P
[08:52] <Avulture> bruenig,  i read in wikipedia that , there is also hardware terminals
[08:52] <eamonnd> I had a quick question: I have a live cd from 5.04 that a friend gave me a while ago and wanted to make a copy of fiesty onto it, is there any way to delete the contents of the old CD and replace them with new contents?
[08:52] <webpirate> if you give me your email I can send it to you...
[08:52] <kkathman> zetheroo:  pidgin isnt in the ubuntu repos
[08:52] <Le^stat> if u need to use windows...use Virtualbox
[08:53] <marx2k> Whack: see if that helps you
[08:53] <bruenig> Avulture, maybe you mean tty or virtual consoles
[08:53] <Le^stat> its fantastic
[08:53] <kkathman> zetheroo:  try gaim-beta - its the same thing basically
[08:53] <Whack> i have no idea what i'm looking for in here
[08:53] <Avulture> bruenig, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_terminal
[08:53] <OrTigaS> hi i'm trying to upgrade to edgy eft and i type this 'gksu "update-manager -c" but it just only check for updates... how to upgrade it?
[08:53] <marx2k> Avulture: yep, ALT+CTRL+F1 through F6 brings you to a TTY
[08:53] <zetheroo> kkathman: umm... I know its not in the ubuntu repos.... but I am installing into Ubuntu..
[08:54] <kkathman> zetheroo:  so you downloaded the source and you are compiling?
[08:54] <marx2k> So even if youre in Gnome or KDE or whatever, you can always just switch directly to a TTY
[08:54] <bruenig> Avulture, yeah that's fine, I don't know what you want
[08:54] <zetheroo> kkathman: yes
 Give me your Email Address I will send you Script to install browser...mplayer plugins and flash..
[08:54] <kkathman> ok kewl good luck
[08:54] <Krimpet> hmm, i installed beryl, and it works like a charm -- but for some reason, if i switch to a virtual console, i get a bunch of crap on the TTY and the keyboard/mouse lock up -- does anyone know why?
[08:54] <Le^stat> whats a TTY?
[08:54] <marx2k> Krimpet: Thats weird
[08:54] <kkathman> zetheroo:  some of the libraries I dont think are available, but you might can get them from the pidgin site
[08:55] <marx2k> Lestat: virtual terminal
[08:55] <OrTigaS> anyone?
 then after install is done just type in firefox32 instead of firefox
[08:55] <Avulture> bruenig, do you think that voice commands could make terminals just old tenets?
[08:55] <bruenig> !ot | Avulture
[08:55] <fm> hi
[08:55] <ubotu> Avulture: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:55] <marx2k> Avulture,  no.. especially since voice commands would be very indirect and difficult to set up scripting :)
[08:55] <Tarkus> anyone know how i can get a desktop switcher cube in compiz-fusion? (right now its a 2 workspace, flat object)
[08:55] <Evanlec_> !firewall
[08:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:56] <zetheroo> kkathman: this is what I get > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37661/
[08:56] <client02_> yahoo mesenggrer
[08:56] <marx2k> Tarkus, provide 2 more desktops
[08:56] <Avulture> aha
[08:57] <marx2k> zeth, well, is that package installed?
[08:57] <fm> I just arrived at my new capus, there is internet but it keeps asking me for my network login and password everytime a new application tries to use the network... do you know how I could make ubuntu retain my identification?
[08:57] <fm> *campus
[08:57] <Avulture> ubotu, there is no chatter in that ##ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <Tarkus> marx2k, yeah. i know thats what im trying to do.
[08:57] <OrTigaS> hi i'm trying to upgrade to edgy eft and i type this 'gksu "update-manager -c" but it just only check for updates... how to upgrade it?
[08:57] <marx2k> Tarkus: just right click on the desktop icons and configure
[08:57] <Tarkus> marx2k, its set to 4
[08:57] <Miranda> fm: don't you have a campus login or cookies with your application?
[08:58] <marx2k> OrTigaS, "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[08:58] <zetheroo> marx2k: yes it is installed
[08:58] <xsteelwolf_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded -> how do i upgrade?
[08:58] <marx2k> Tark: set it to 8 :)
[08:58] <zetheroo> marx2k: its in Synaptic as installed
[08:58] <Avulture> marx2k, is ubotu a Robot ?
[08:58] <davidthedrake> Avulture, yea
[08:58] <kkathman> zetheroo: google is your friend:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67088
[08:58] <xsteelwolf_> ubotu is a bot
[08:58] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[08:58] <marx2k> actually, Tark, have you gone into the conpiz settings manager to play with that?Av yes
[08:58] <Whack> argg... lol it shouldn't be this hard to get a mouse working
[08:58] <OrTigaS> marx2k: tnx
[08:58] <Le^stat> xsteelwolf_:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:58] <marx2k> zeth: try reinstalling maybe?
[08:58] <fm> I got a login but it doesnt last, I log  in for mozilla, then I wanna launch bittorrent and I must log in again..
[08:59] <Miranda> fm: isn't there cookies on your console?
[08:59] <Tarkus> marx2k, yes. i have.. i thought it would be in there. but i cant find it anywhere.
 Did you find script?
[08:59] <GNine> whack... there is no spoon.. is that so hard to believe.. ?
[08:59] <Whack> hehe
[08:59] <marx2k> Tark: should be in the general options
[08:59] <Myrtti> Avulture: and it's #ubuntu-offtopic, not ##ubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <omeow> If a script is in /etc/init.d/ does that mean it gets run at boot?
[08:59] <zetheroo> kkathman: thanks, but that really is a pointless thread
[08:59] <Whack> i guess it's possible this mouse is just hard-programmed to send home, end, and bksp keys, but that would be retarded
[08:59] <omeow> If not, how to I make things run at boot.
[09:00] <fm> I don't know Miranda, what are you talking about exactly?
[09:00] <OrTigaS> marx2k: its just fetch
[09:00] <Whack> omeow: yes
[09:00] <GNine> yet you still get fed.. there is something left to believe...
[09:00] <Miranda> fm: like cookies....
[09:00] <Avulture> Myrtti, Thanks
[09:00] <kkathman> zetheroo:  looked pretty pointed to me :)
[09:00] <marx2k> General Options/Desktop Size/Horizontal Virtual Size - Mine is set to 4, the Vertical size is set to 1 and number of desktops is set to 1
[09:00] <OrTigaS> didn't upgrade
[09:00] <bruenig> omeow, there is for some awfully ridiculous reason I'm sure a whole nest of symlinks in /etc/rc.# that are actually indicative of what is run
[09:00] <kkathman> libpurple is the thing thats not available IIRC
[09:00] <Whack> omeow: make sure it's chmod +x also
[09:00] <marx2k> OrTigaS, sounds like you dont need upgrades at the moment
[09:00] <webpirate> how can I register so I can send private messages?
[09:00] <zetheroo> kkathman: I already have gettext installed....
[09:00] <Tarkus> marx2k, aaah. thank you.. i would have never thought that would be it.
[09:00] <omeow> Alright, thanks whack.
[09:00] <kkathman> I was able to get this to install in openSUSE but not ubuntu
[09:00] <Avulture> marx2k, are you a memeber in that ubuntu offtopic :) ?
[09:01] <marx2k> Tarkus, let me know if ut wirjs
[09:01] <brand0con> i just attempted to set up a new hard drive as a dual boot with 2 partitions; one running ubuntu and the other running windows.  I had windows previously installed and was instructed to defrag the hard drive and use gparted on the disk to partition.  my xp partition is now corrupt but the ubuntu partition works fine.  how can i correctly turn this into a 2 partition dual boot solution?
[09:01] <marx2k> Avulture, nope
[09:01] <OrTigaS> marx2k:  ok tnx
[09:01] <zetheroo> kkathman: what does it mean "ensure this it is in your path"?
[09:01] <kkathman> they have a current libpurple there
[09:01] <Tarkus> marx2k, yup. works fine. thanks man
[09:01] <xsteelwolf_> can someone tell me why im able to make a file im getting kernel makefile not found at /libs/.... i already sudo apt-get install linux-source
[09:01] <marx2k> Tarkus, , no problem
[09:01] <Krimpet> webpirate: /msg nickserv help register
[09:01] <kkathman> zetheroo:  like put it in /usr/lib etc  - something thats in the system path
[09:01] <omeow> Last thing, after installing open-ssh server, and starting it, the following two errors pop up;
[09:01] <Whack> kkathman: $PATH is a variable to where your binaries are
[09:01] <omeow> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[09:01] <omeow> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[09:02] <omeow> Shouldn't that get generated automatically when you install the service and start it the first time?
[09:02] <Avulture> the offtopic channel is dead :S
[09:02] <marx2k> omeow, I think it should autogen that for you
[09:02] <zetheroo> kkathman: so anywhere in the root area?
[09:02] <omeow> Yeah.. I know. But for some reason it didn't.
[09:02] <kkathman> Whack:  yes, but there may be other things in the path than just binaries
[09:02] <kkathman> zetheroo:  well not anywhere - in the path
[09:02] <davetarmac> does anyone here know whatis happening in this situation? I boot my computer and logon, the wireless connection shown through nm-applet turns blue to indicate that I have joined a network then all the bars vanish, then come back, then vanish - all the time I'm not able to transfer information over the network.
[09:02] <Whack> yeah, scripts, anything that can run
[09:03] <webpirate> Cool I am registered....:)
[09:03] <GNine> am not
[09:03] <ferronica> currency converter availabe in ubuntu fiesty fawn GNOME, which will will give me current rates ?
[09:04] <zetheroo> kkathman: uh ... ok.... the path.... is there such a thing? if so how do I know whats the correct "path"?
[09:04] <kkathman> zetheroo:  in a terminal  cat $PATH to see whats in your current path
[09:04] <EliteInsane> can someone help me with the home folder permissions
[09:04] <webpirate> Most you have to enter rate....try the yahoo online calculator...
[09:04] <predaeus> XsteelWolf, what are you trying to build?
[09:04] <omeow> Is there any way I can force it to generate those files through the user interface?
[09:04] <marx2k> omeow, "man ssh_config"
[09:04] <Whack> EliteInsane: what do you want to know?
[09:05] <zetheroo> zeth@T60-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/pidgin-2.2.0$ cat $PATH
[09:05] <zetheroo> cat: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[09:05] <GNine> :-)
[09:05] <EliteInsane> whack: i changed the home folder permissions, now when i log into ubuntu i gives me some message stating my config file will be ignored because only the folder owner should have permissions
[09:05] <Le^stat> EliteInsane: set the user permissions as root in Users & groups
[09:05] <marx2k> echo $PATH
[09:05] <zetheroo> kkathman zeth@T60-Ubuntu:~/Desktop/pidgin-2.2.0$ cat $PATH
[09:05] <zetheroo> cat: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[09:05] <EliteInsane> how do i do that
[09:05] <GNine> oh shit
[09:05] <EliteInsane> whenever i try to change the permissions back it never sticks
[09:05] <kkathman> zetheroo:  thats your path
[09:06] <Miranda> GNine: ?
[09:06] <stdin> !ohmy | GNine
[09:06] <ubotu> GNine: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:06] <chaad> hi is this freenode?
[09:06] <webpirate> is there a place I can post my 3-in-1 script for flash and browser?
[09:06] <Extravert> hello.  How would I heat a piece of paper to dry the ink on it?
[09:06] <Avulture> ubotu, ia an astute monitor :D
[09:06] <Miranda> chaad: yes, you are on the freenode network
[09:06] <kkathman> Extravert:  hair dryer?
[09:06] <chaad> thanks
[09:06] <Extravert> kkathman: would that blow the ink?
[09:06] <zetheroo> kkathman: I see 6 paths there
[09:06] <Avulture> lol .how could he understand language :D
[09:06] <Avulture> hehehe
[09:06] <marx2k> I belkieve you can add to $PATH via "export $PATH=/path/youd/like/to/add"
[09:07] <kkathman> Extravert:  if you put it like .5 inches away, yeah
[09:07] <Le^stat> i need breakfast
[09:07] <predaeus> webpirate, probably in the forums.
[09:07] <webpirate> :)
[09:07] <Whack> you can have multiple paths, separated by colon
[09:07] <marx2k> you can also try export -p
[09:07] <marx2k> for fun
[09:07] <Whack> path1:path2:
[09:07] <webpirate> I cant remember the password to my hosting account...:(
[09:07] <zetheroo> marx2k: you talking to me?
[09:07] <kkathman> marx2k:  thats right - theres a nice write up in the ubuntu forums (google)
[09:07] <marx2k> zetheroo, sure
[09:08] <zetheroo> marx2k: man, I got to jump through so many hoops just to install this app.... do you have any advice?
[09:08] <sylverfox> hi all
[09:08] <Avulture> marx2k, is a good Linux expert
[09:08] <EliteInsane> so, anyone tell me why when i try to change the permissions for my home folder they never stick?
[09:09] <EliteInsane> they keep changing themselves back
[09:09] <marx2k> zetheroo,  I really dont have any good advice :(  I hate when stuff cant find the libraries it needs even though THEYRE RIGHT THERE
[09:09] <webpirate> Elite>> have to try in console with Sudo?
[09:09] <marx2k> EliteInsane, whats the command youre using?
[09:09] <zetheroo> kkathman: thanks for your help .... if you can tell me the exact path I should be using that would be super
[09:09] <Avulture> marx2k, when did you start your journey with Linux :D
[09:09] <EliteInsane> im just right clicking and using the properties menu
[09:09] <marx2k> Avulture, about a year ago?
[09:09] <EliteInsane> whats the command in the terminal
[09:09] <cableroy_> How can i patch zd1211rw for injection in ubuntu style (kernel)?
[09:09] <marx2k> EliteInsane, what are the permissions youd like to change?
[09:10] <Avulture> short time actually
[09:10] <marx2k> yep
[09:10] <EliteInsane> id like to set it back so my configurations work again
[09:10] <Avulture> but it seems that you knew alot about it
[09:10] <marx2k> Avulture, you learn by doing :)
[09:10] <Avulture> says hi to ubotu :)
[09:10] <EliteInsane> its telling me its being ignored because other people can access the home folder
[09:10] <orang> yanis
[09:10] <rlount> ok, jeffhjk is on his way!
[09:10] <sylverfox> can anybody help me in how to install an nvidia driver for ubuntu?
[09:10] <Whack> lol... apache, php5, mysql, and pear, all install no problem, but a mouse... now that's where i get stuck...
[09:10] <kkathman> zetheroo:  if you will put whatever file it is that you are struggling with, in one of those directories in your PATH, then you'll eliminate that message I think
[09:10] <webpirate> cableroy>> I have that exact card and I could not getting working under ubuntu 7.04 ...worked in 6.10 fine but no go in ubuntu....bought $25 dlink wireless and work instantly
[09:10] <marx2k> EliteInsane, can you paste a one line listing of your home folder?
[09:10] <GNine> keep reading, friend.. i salute you
[09:11] <marx2k> as in "ls -al ~"
[09:11] <marx2k> Hm that wouldnt work
[09:11] <EliteInsane> what is that marx2k?
[09:11] <marx2k> go to a terminal, type "cd .."
[09:11] <Whack> don't get a netgear wlan pci card, the one i bought didnt have native drivers available
[09:11] <marx2k> then "ls -al"
[09:11] <cableroy_> webpirate: hm yes, i tried to recompile with a source kernel, i get some error modprobing it
[09:11] <Avulture> heheeh i guess even Microsoft is using Unix on their servers :D what a crap company
[09:11] <marx2k> and paste that
[09:12] <dirtyhand> how can I make my rep rollback to a previous version
[09:12] <EliteInsane> a lot came up
[09:12] <webpirate> cableroy>>EXACTLY same problem that I had....got fed up and just bought dlink.....
[09:12] <EliteInsane> like the first one?
[09:12] <marx2k> like for me, it's "drwxr-xr-x 96 marx2k marx2k 8192 2007-09-17 01:40 marx2k"
[09:12] <rlount> Avulture, I think the Empire still has a license to run unix... bought it from SCO!
[09:12] <marx2k> go back one directory from your home directly
[09:12] <systemd0wn> is software available to control my logitech orbit cam?
[09:12] <Avulture> rlount, what did you meant by the empire ?
[09:12] <EliteInsane> drwxrwxrwx 37 elite elite  4096 2007-09-17 00:02
[09:12] <cableroy_> webpirate: ya, i have enough cards working with injection on my laptop, 3 of them, but want the last one
[09:13] <rlount> Avulture, Empire = M$
[09:13] <rlount> IMHO
[09:13] <EliteInsane> that the right one?
[09:13] <marx2k> EliteInsane, looks like you got full read/write/execute on that
[09:13] <Avulture> I see
[09:13] <gerro> systemd0wn: dunno try checking into gspca :/
[09:13] <rlount> stoopid joke
[09:13] <zetheroo> kkathman: I placed the pidgin installation folder into /usr/local/bin and did ./configure again.... but still got the same error
[09:13] <EliteInsane> yea but thats not the problem, its telling me since other people have read/write on it
[09:13] <zetheroo> cd ..
[09:13] <EliteInsane> my config files are being ignored
[09:13] <anggarda> guys, I'm about to recreate a CSR for my SSL. I've got a question, If i regenerate the hostkey will it affect any previous certs which I may have?
[09:13] <Avulture> lol rlount i thought u were serious :D
[09:13] <systemd0wn> gerro, the "german shorthaired pointer club of america" ?!
[09:13] <webpirate> Anyone else having problems with Nexuiz....Seems super slow after kernel update...
[09:14] <rlount> hee
[09:14] <systemd0wn> gerro, jk.
[09:14] <sylverfox> can anybody help me in installing an nvidia driver for ubuntu?
[09:14] <marx2k> Elite: yeah, you see the last 3 "rwx" on there? Thats the global permissions
[09:14] <gerro> systemd0wn: think there was a guide I followed for my cam installed some app like easycam think it was and it picked out some info on my cam
[09:14] <webpirate> Sylverfox>>> what do you need?
[09:14] <kkathman> zetheroo:  typically, it doesnt matter where you do the ./configure
[09:14] <marx2k> that means all users have read/write and execute permissions on that directory
[09:14] <EliteInsane> how do i change that
[09:14] <marx2k> let me see... hang on
[09:14] <Avulture> rlount, the problem is that users here say alot of versions about unix , linux, gentoo debian.. aloooooooot of words really so confusing OS
[09:14] <Whack> EliteInsane: change to what? only owner perms?
[09:14] <sylverfox> webpirate: if I install the driver it makes unuseable the grafical interface
[09:14] <kkathman> zetheroo:  you can untar the files to your home directory and run the ./configure
[09:14] <EliteInsane> yea
[09:15] <rlount> Avulture, totally. There is mass traffic here.
[09:15] <rlount> unreal
[09:15] <marx2k> man I totally forgot the octal calculation of chmod :(
[09:15] <Whack> chmod 744 i think
[09:15] <Whack> or 755
[09:15] <marx2k> I thought it was 644
[09:15] <zetheroo> kkathman: thats what I have been doing
[09:15] <marx2k> man I totally forgot :(
[09:15] <tanath> 755 sounds familiar
[09:15] <davetarmac> Interesting new development with the networking scenario from earlier - I connected a wire then unplugged it and it all works fine now
[09:15] <Whack> 7 is full perms for owner
[09:15] <kkathman> zetheroo:  what its not finding is some component that it needs (and it looks in all the directories in your path to find it) so, what that generally means is the system doesnt have the library you are looking for
[09:15] <marx2k> yeah the first 7 is fine
[09:15] <marx2k> youre right
[09:16] <marx2k> it's owner, group, global, right?
[09:16] <Whack> yes
[09:16] <Whack> 6 will be read only for owner
[09:16] <marx2k> I forgot how to calculate it though
[09:16] <marx2k> oh... 1 is execute, isnt it
[09:16] <Whack> 4,2,1 = read,write,execute
[09:16] <Whack> yeqah
[09:16] <marx2k> yeah
[09:16] <tanath> you don't need the numbers though
[09:16] <rlount> when I forget, I make a testACL and chmod on it.
[09:17] <EliteInsane> give me some thigns to try
[09:17] <EliteInsane> and ill see if they work
[09:17] <Extravert> anyone know the halftone pattern differences between diffusion and dither?
[09:17] <orang> ryan
[09:17] <Avulture> rlount do you use Unix too ?
[09:17] <orang> #semarang
[09:17] <rlount> Avulture, yeah, or more rightly *nix
[09:17] <tanath> you can do like, 'chmod +x'
[09:18] <marx2k> So shouldnt it be 764?
[09:18] <Avulture> marx2k, is the difference between Linux and Unix is that Unix does not support the GUI ?
[09:18] <disinterested> no matter what guide i follow i still can't get write permissions on my slave hd?
[09:18] <Crozar> i think im in some bug now :( i was using 1024 res yesterday i shut down today i started computer its on 800 x600 with refresh rate 50!!!
[09:18] <tanath> av-, linux is a rewrite of unix
[09:18] <rlount> Solaris has a full on GUI...
[09:18] <rlount> Java Desktop, based on Gnome.
[09:18] <Avulture> rlount , so what is the major difference
[09:18] <gordonjcp> Avulture: no
[09:18] <brettrs> disinterested: what is the hdd formatted as?
[09:18] <gordonjcp> Avulture: Linux is not Unix
[09:18] <marx2k> Avulture, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=unix+vs+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[09:18] <disinterested> ext3
[09:18] <mosno> what *is* unix anyway...? these days it's like OpenServer, OpenSolaris...
[09:18] <rlount> Avulture, naming conventions for one.
[09:18] <gordonjcp> Avulture: it's like Unix, but not actually Unix
[09:18] <tanath> Avulture, or was originally
[09:19] <predaeus> !offtopic
[09:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:19] <MenZa> mosno: Check Wikipeida. :P
[09:19] <brettrs> disinterested: have you tried fat32?
[09:19] <MenZa> pedia*
[09:19] <EliteInsane> marx2k, any way you can give me some command to fix it?
[09:19] <mosno> MenZa: that's what im reading!
[09:19] <GNine> major difference is your asking of unix in ubuntu    lol
[09:19] <MenZa> mosno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX
[09:19] <disinterested> not yet
[09:19] <MenZa> Then the definition should be pretty clear.
[09:19] <marx2k> Elite: "chmod 764 ~"?
[09:19] <marx2k> maybe?
[09:19] <brettrs> i can't help you with ext3, but i'm positive fat32 will work
[09:19] <EliteInsane> just put that in terminal?
[09:19] <rlount> Avulture, interface names, disk names. Directories where things are etc...
[09:19] <marx2k> yeah
[09:20] <EliteInsane> drwxrw-r-- 37 elite elite  4096 2007-09-17 00:02 .
[09:20] <Avulture> rlount,  but the same way of dealing with files..etc ?
[09:20] <Extravert> anyone know the halftone pattern differences between diffusion and dither?
[09:20] <EliteInsane> that look right now?
[09:20] <disinterested> is that option avalable in gparted?
[09:20] <rlount> mosno, Unix is Solaris, BSD, OpenSolaris...
[09:20] <marx2k> Should look like drwxr-xr-x 96 marx2k marx2k 8192 2007-09-17 01:40 marx2k
[09:20] <Whack> EliteInsane: try "chmod -R 764 ~/"
[09:20] <rpedro_> MenZa: lol wikipeida << 'peida' == butt in portuguese slang
[09:20] <rlount> Avulture, pretty much. d00d, ZFS rawks it.
[09:20] <gordonjcp> Extravert: the patterns are different
[09:20] <Crozar> this is what i thought and i think Unix is engine from the start of the computer world the Award Winner of the expanded Engine is Mac OS and Windows but from theyr they expand Modifications and patching them towards each other
[09:20] <rlount> but it's really off top.
[09:20] <Extravert> gordonjcp: ?
[09:20] <Crozar> i might be wrong :P but i like to think of it that way
[09:20] <Ravenndude`> Is there a way to connect to a wifi network using the command line? If so, can someone point me in the right direction?
[09:20] <Whack> that will affect your entire home dir, and all sub folders
[09:20] <EliteInsane> drwxrw-r-- 37 elite elite  4096 2007-09-17 00:02 . is 764
[09:21] <Extravert> gordonjcp: do you know which one is better?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> Extravert: better is a very subjective thing
[09:21] <marx2k> try 766
[09:21] <GNine> crozar is wrong
[09:21] <GNine> lol
[09:21] <Crozar> lo
[09:21] <Extravert> gordonjcp: terms of quality
[09:21] <Crozar> why?
[09:21] <gordonjcp> marx2k: uhm, 766 would be rwxrw-rw-
[09:21] <Avulture> ok guys as this is ubuntu channel i had a werid problem in partitioner ,, is it recommended to use the automcatic partitioner or the manual ?
[09:21] <rlount> Crozar, Mac is Unix.
[09:21] <gordonjcp> Extravert: try both, see which you like
[09:21] <Crozar> i thought unix is the start then mac started good project microsoft stole it mac working on other
[09:21] <brettrs> disinterested: i don't know, but i'm sure it is.
[09:21] <marx2k> I got drwxr-xr-x on mine
[09:21] <systemd0wn> how can i move my orbit cam around? Video works fine, i just cant manually move it
[09:21] <disinterested> ok its formatting into fat32
[09:21] <tanath> why not just change the perms in nautilus?
[09:22] <EliteInsane> drwxrw-rw- 37 elite elite  4096 2007-09-17 00:02 . 766
[09:22] <Crozar> i thought unix was made then the producer died
[09:22] <rlount> heh
[09:22] <Crozar> and no one knew the story
[09:22] <Crozar> so i might be right u know i dream and do wizard stuff
[09:22] <gordonjcp> Crozar: no, the two guys that wrote the very first Unix are still very much alive
[09:22] <Crozar> so dont think im wrong
[09:22] <Crozar> hmm
[09:22] <marx2k> EliteInsane, that should work for what you were trying to do
[09:22] <EliteInsane> ok lemme try it
[09:23] <marx2k> ok
[09:23] <rlount> maybe we should give Ken Ritchey a call....
[09:23] <gordonjcp> Crozar: dmr's web page is pretty interesting - gives a lot of insight into how they did stuff and why
[09:23] <NINJ4> is there a way to manually install the 2.6.20 kernel?  I can't get on the internet with one box that needs that kernel to get on the internet XD
[09:23] <Crozar> link?
[09:23] <gordonjcp> Crozar: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/ <- prepare to lose an hour or two
[09:23] <Crozar> oh u want me to google it same as for  my resoloution problem
[09:23] <mosno> well, Ubuntu is based on GNU, Gnu's Not Unix, therefore it turns out we *are* offtopic ;-)
[09:23] <EliteInsane> ok didnt work
[09:23] <EliteInsane> but what was that command again
[09:23] <EliteInsane> chmod?
[09:23] <marx2k> Elite: Whats the error
[09:23] <marx2k> yeah, chmod
[09:23] <marx2k> type "man chmod" in terminal
[09:24] <Evanlec_> any way to get game to open in one display only (using twinview) ?
[09:24] <marx2k> it will give you info on it
[09:24] <EliteInsane> it tells me 644
[09:24] <Crozar> hey yesterday my ubuntu on 1024 and im fine but after i slept i started laptop then suddenly 800 :(
[09:24] <gordonjcp> Crozar: but yeah, in general googling for "dennis ritchie unix history" would be a start
[09:24] <EliteInsane> on the messahe
[09:24] <Avulture> so rlount,Unix is more powerful than linux ?
[09:24] <EliteInsane> message
[09:24] <rlount> Avulture, no.
[09:24] <disinterested> brettrs: do i just follow the guide again onitting the ext3 and adding fat32 to /etc/fstab then?
[09:24] <Avulture> :S
[09:24] <Evanlec_> Avulture, linux is based on unix...they are not comparable like that
[09:24] <Crozar> ok tell me windows nothing to do with them>
[09:24] <disinterested> omitting
[09:24] <EliteInsane> ok wait
[09:24] <rlount> tho BSD IMHO has a better networking stack.
[09:24] <EliteInsane> how do i get back to where chmod will work
[09:24] <A2t3c13> hi everybody!
[09:24] <marx2k> go back to terminal
[09:24] <EliteInsane> k
[09:25] <Crozar> i thought windows stole Mac so where is the story that mac started a new start from the begining diffrent path?
[09:25] <marx2k> "chmod 644 ~"
[09:25] <Crozar> which based on unix
[09:25] <Avulture> Evanlec_, since i see in jobs resumes.. experience in unix...and that way.. even didn't mention Linux
[09:25] <Avulture> Evanlec_, you got me ?
[09:25] <gordonjcp> Crozar: Nah, Windows and Mac both stole from Xerox
[09:25] <Crozar> whos those
[09:25] <EliteInsane> brb
[09:25] <Crozar> what the ?
[09:25] <marx2k> Avulture, if you know linux, you effectively know unix
[09:25] <rlount> gordonjcp, is the winner!
[09:25] <Evanlec_> Avulture, ? linux is unix so...you could say that
[09:25] <tanath> anyone know any firewall scripts better than this? http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/index.php
[09:26] <KurtKraut> !ops
[09:26] <marx2k> wtf....floodbots??
[09:26] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:26] <Whack> ahh
[09:26] <Hobbsee> !staff
[09:26] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[09:26] <rlount> GNine, word.
[09:26] <Crozar> so theyr was something before win linux and mac >??? like a mainframe 10000 buttons of ( 0 , 1 ) for just to send a msg across
[09:26] <Avulture> what happened guys ?
[09:26] <Crozar> that might be possible u know the war days of hitler..
[09:26] <rlount> about the unix is linux bit
[09:26] <Le^stat> hold onto yur butt
[09:26] <tanath> netsplit?
[09:26] <gordonjcp> Crozar: no no
[09:26] <Avulture> what alot of chatters who left the room
[09:26] <Whack> linux is to unix as windows is to DOS
[09:26] <marx2k> Whack: bad similie
[09:27] <gordonjcp> Crozar: in the late 1960s Xerox had systems that would recognise as a modern desktop environment
[09:27] <Avulture> :)
[09:27] <marx2k> Gnome/KDE is to Bash as Windows is to DOS
[09:27] <tanath> then apple & ms stole the idea
[09:27] <marx2k> well, Windows 95 and earlier anyway
[09:27] <rlount> bastards!
[09:27] <gordonjcp> hm, he's gone
[09:28] <rlount> must be a disturbance in the force...
[09:28] <gordonjcp> Seveas: erm, why did you just kb Crozar?
[09:28] <rlount> I haven't felt so many resets since... Alderan was blown up.
[09:28] <Avulture> rlount, so if i know LINUX very well i don't have to know UNIX whether what would be the requirements of the job to be UNIX admin for example ?
[09:28] <Seveas> gordonjcp, godwins law
[09:28] <rlount> Avulture, no.
[09:28] <gordonjcp> Seveas: eh?
[09:29] <rlount> there are enough differences to really ruin your day.
[09:29] <GNine> Avulture, .. respect  C .. unix IS unix
[09:29] <rlount> Solaris is a pain in the rear.
[09:29] <Avulture> rlount. could i install a version of UNIX on my PC ?
[09:29] <rlount> yeah.
[09:29] <Avulture> lol GNine
[09:29] <webpirate> I remember when intel released the DX100 chip a company called ALPHA had a 500mhz chip...
[09:30] <rlount> Avulture, Solaris is OpenSource now.
[09:30] <nanonyme> rlount, yeah, it's very annoying to have systems that work right. no one can code properly for them :/
[09:30] <rlount> heh
[09:30] <Avulture> rlount,  could Unix work on old machines ?
[09:30] <Avulture> that solaris ?
[09:30] <rlount> yeah, stripped.
[09:30] <tanath> anyone know any firewall scripts better than this? http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/index.php
[09:30] <rlount> Avulture, one disk install, no frills.
[09:30] <gordonjcp> Avulture: of course Unix can work on old machines
[09:30] <Extravert> WHY! does my printer print at 200dpi when its suppose to do 1200?!
[09:30] <Avulture> rlount that would be nice
[09:30] <gordonjcp> Avulture: it was written for a DEC PDP-7
[09:30] <Avulture> very nice indeed
[09:30] <webpirate> and when AMD squeezed 133mhz out of socket 5...
[09:31] <gordonjcp> Avulture: and later ported across to a PDP-11
[09:31] <Avulture> i think i should try both of them on a VMWARE
[09:31] <rlount> I got to see a PDP-11 last month!
[09:31] <Le^stat> virtualbox works well
[09:31] <gordonjcp> rlount: really?
[09:31] <Crozar> :(
[09:31] <GNine> possible.. effective?  i dont know
[09:31] <Whack> at least you guys aren't forced to use a mac at work lol
[09:31] <gordonjcp> rlount: I got to see a PDP11 to
[09:31] <gordonjcp> too
[09:31] <rlount> yeah, at Boneville Power
[09:31] <Crozar> how come i got banned is it because off topic?
[09:31] <gordonjcp> rlount: oh look, there it is again
[09:32] <gordonjcp> rlount: http://pdp11.kicks-ass.net
[09:32] <Avulture> guys.. is it possible to install different versions of Linux,, unix on the the same harddrive ?
[09:32] <rlount> nice!
[09:32] <tanath> yep
[09:32] <Avulture> since VMWARE is not a speedy programme
[09:32] <gordonjcp> Avulture: yeah, no problem at all
[09:32] <Avulture> gordonjcp, Good news actuallly
[09:32] <rlount> gordonjcp, rawk it hard!
[09:32] <Crozar> my screen rez yesterday was 1024 i shutdown then later today i started and im on suddenly 800 with 50refreshrate ? help please
[09:32] <gordonjcp> Crozar: so as I was saying, yes, there were a lot of different OSes way way before Windows, Mac OS or Linux
[09:33] <tanath> Avulture, all you need is seperate partitions. and grub will detect each installed OS so you can choose which to run when your computer starts
[09:33] <orang> #semarang
[09:33] <gordonjcp> Crozar: what happens when you go to the screen resolution menu?
[09:33] <webpirate> gordonjcp>> did you restart your computer with the monitor off? because If I have my monitor off when I start linux it defaults to 800
[09:33] <Whack> haha... looking through the keyboard options, there is a "lock screen to enforce typing break" option
[09:33] <Crozar> never mind that i did sudo nano /ext3/X11/xorg.conf
[09:33] <webpirate> restart X with your monitor on
[09:33] <Avulture> tanath, look dude i have 7 partions of my 200 giga byte one.. all of them are in NTFS
[09:33] <Crozar> everything is like it was
[09:33] <gordonjcp> webpirate: it's Crozar that's having the problem
[09:34] <Whack> you can set it to force you to take a break from typing lol
[09:34] <Avulture> partioning in LINUX is just a pain in ass :S
[09:34] <webpirate> oops....sorry
[09:34] <webpirate> gparted...
[09:34] <Crozar> oh i didnt try restarting :P i blamed it as a bug well it is but thought u have a cure ;)
[09:34] <brand0con> how can you create an ntfs partition in ubuntu
[09:34] <tanath> Avulture, well, you'll need to use a non-ntfs partition for other OSes
[09:34] <brand0con> gparted wont let me
[09:34] <tanath> Avulture, gparted is easy enough
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Crozar: it's quite interesting to look at how OSes have evolved
[09:35] <rlount> brand0con, you need ntfs-utils or somesuch thingie and I don't think it's stock ;)
[09:35] <kkathman> brand0con:  you cant
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Crozar: you can see how bits have been added on as someone decides it would be a good idea
[09:35] <webpirate> it's probably easier if you get the gparted bootable cd and do it from there
[09:35] <brand0con> lame
[09:35] <kkathman> you can READ ntfs but I dont think you can create one
[09:35] <brand0con> thx neway
[09:35] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[09:35] <Avulture> and who said iam using ubuntu now ?
[09:35] <kkathman> brand0con:  try creating ext3 instead - safer
[09:35] <rlount> brand0con, it can be done but it's still considered experimental.
[09:36] <SwEEt_SiLvEr> iiiiiiiiiii
[09:36] <Avulture> i said iam unfortunately windows USer
[09:36] <Crozar> yes i see many people here =) and u know something im not using linuxs because of youtube actually i wanted to set up a server computer for hosting Quake games , but rather i took that processes a later to do list until i saw youtube lol :P it made my fastlist an now im here
[09:36] <Avulture> i said that many times
[09:36] <rlount> brand0con, you reaaaaaaly want to do it?
[09:36] <Textbook> and he said use GParted
[09:36] <tanath> brand0con, if you have a windows install cd, you can use that
[09:36] <Whack> correct, ntfs partition will be read-only from ubuntu, my laptop is that way since it's dual boot with xp
[09:36] <Textbook> it's "linux" but it's a LiveCD
[09:36] <kkathman> rlount  her really doesnt, but he doesnt know WHY he doesnt yet :)
[09:37] <Textbook> and it's just as easy as all the commercial partitioning tools out there
[09:37] <Crozar> so im special rather then other people because of the effects :P until now i didnt got rain or thunder or snow in my screen :/ and dont want to get beryl this is my 3rd format beryl much sideeffects
[09:37] <rlount> brand0con, Knoppix has the utils and the ability to get more tools while "live"... heh, ok.
[09:37] <tanath> you can write to ntfs in ubuntu
[09:37] <Avulture> tanath check your PVT buddy i want to ask you about something in partitioning
[09:37] <Whack> tanath: how?
[09:37] <dgjones> !ntfs-3g | Whack, ntfs is writeable from linux
[09:37] <ubotu> Whack, ntfs is writeable from linux: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:37] <tanath> ^
[09:37] <rlount> word
[09:37] <Whack> hmm, i might have to try that
[09:38] <kkathman> tanath:  you can write to an existing ntfs using ubuntu, but ntfs is not a supported file system for ubuntu installs
[09:38] <EliteInsane> ok so
[09:38] <EliteInsane> ubuntu wont even let me login now
[09:38] <brand0con> hmm my windows install cd doesnt let me create a partition on the newly partitioned disk
[09:38] <tanath> kkathman, not by default, but that's what ntfs-3g is for
[09:38] <Whack> EliteInsane: what error are you getting?
[09:38] <EliteInsane> not right permissions to creat some folder
[09:39] <EliteInsane> "you session lasted less than 10 seconds"
[09:39] <EliteInsane> i went into recovery thing
[09:39] <kkathman> tanath:  no, I think ntfs-3g is for WRITING to an existing nfts partition - there is a big difference
[09:39] <EliteInsane> did a chmod 744 then 764
[09:39] <EliteInsane> no dice both times
[09:39] <tanath> kkathman, uh, that's what i was talking about. did i miss something?
[09:39] <Whack> logged in as what user?
[09:39] <kkathman> tanath:  for instance if, for some reason you had a windows box on a network that was ntfs and you want ubuntu to write a file there
[09:39] <EliteInsane> root?
[09:39] <Whack> if you're logged in as root, then it won't change the correct home folder
[09:39] <dgjones> EliteInsane, I've never had that error, but I have seen somebody mention that it mjight be caused by running out of disk space in your "/" directory
[09:39] <EliteInsane> well
[09:40] <Whack> whats the username you're logging in as?
[09:40] <EliteInsane> elite
[09:40] <Whack> err trying to
[09:40] <tanath> kkathman, samba won't take care of that?
[09:40] <Avulture> tanath, have you seen my pvt dude.. or i did something wrong in my IRC
[09:40] <kkathman> tanath:  as I understood, brand0con wanted to create an ntfs partition in ubuntu
[09:40] <EliteInsane> "elite"
[09:40] <tanath> Avulture, have you seen my reply?
[09:40] <Avulture> no
[09:40] <Whack> ok, so do: "chmod -R 755 /home/elite/*"
[09:40] <kkathman> tanath:  nope, only FAT for samba without ntfs-3g I think
[09:40] <abeng> yogyakata
[09:40] <EliteInsane> ok
[09:40] <tanath> kkathman, i was just replying to you saying you can't write to ntfs from ubuntu
[09:40] <kkathman> at least last I checked
[09:41] <EliteInsane> what should the root folder permissions me
[09:41] <EliteInsane> since i was dicking around with those
[09:41] <kkathman> tanath:  no I was saying you could not CREATE an ntfs partition in ubuntu
[09:41] <Whack> the tilde "~" means "my home directory", the one of the current logged in user
[09:41] <tanath> Avulture, i've been replying to you, but then you don't respond...
[09:41] <Whack> 755 should be fine
[09:41] <Avulture> tanath,i think there is something wrong in my IRC
[09:41] <Avulture> tanath i used that mode
[09:41] <EliteInsane> ok
[09:41] <Avulture> +I
[09:41] <EliteInsane> i will try this
[09:41] <kkathman> Avulture:  are you registered ?
[09:41] <Avulture> is that wrong ?
[09:41] <Avulture> yeah
[09:41] <dgjones> tanath, Avulture you both need to be registered to send / receive pm's
[09:42] <Avulture> iam registerd
[09:42] <tanath> all i said was you can write to ntfs
[09:42] <dgjones> Avulture, depends whether tanath is registered as well
[09:42] <buttercups> !kernel
[09:42] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:42] <Avulture> dgjones may be because my mode is +i so i can't see him ?
[09:42] <tanath> DGJ, i am, but i can't remember my pass :-/
[09:42] <webpirate> has anyone tried the Envy script to install Nvidia drivers....I just tried it and it works nice....
[09:42] <Whack> argg... i give up - i guess i am buying a new mouse tomorrow
[09:43] <Crozar> ok afte restart still on 800 res :( how come i used to have 1024 yesterday
[09:43] <dgjones> tanath, thats probably why then, if your not registered and identified, pm's are set not to work in the channel
[09:43] <hakrvananteck1> some mexican people !!
[09:43] <Avulture> oh :S
[09:43] <Avulture> tanath it's so easy to register :D
[09:43] <webpirate> Crozar>> are you on laptop?
[09:43] <Avulture> not a dilemma :D
[09:43] <buttercups> !compile
[09:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:43] <tanath> Avulture, it's not easy to remember my bloody password :P
[09:43] <Avulture> lol
[09:44] <tanath> so i never bother to identify
[09:44] <rlount> Crozar, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:44] <tanath> and there doesn't seem to be a way to recover it
[09:44] <Crozar> yes but im using CRT monitor , its long story yesterday i had talked to tvrg about the situation when i wanted to run nvidia driver on Laptop but it gives me colory screen but then i renamed the driver  to nv and laptop runs
[09:44] <buttercups> !restricted formats
[09:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:44] <Avulture> tanath ok Plz go to the off topic channel
[09:44] <Crozar> but crt works both in nv and nvidia , i want nvidia because its on 3d accelerator  * ( im talking about the file in xorg.conf )
[09:44] <Tumpster> So, I'm running wine, but i've noticed in any steam game i cannot seem to tweak the settings, when I do it crashes back to the desktop. Any reason why?
[09:45] <GNine> no spoon.. 48 hours is nothing in computing time
[09:45] <rlount> Valve.... aaaaaaaaaah!
[09:45] <webpirate> Crozar>> Nvidia card?
[09:45] <GNine> you can do it , Whack
[09:45] <rlount> Tumpster, thats because Steam/Valve sucks.
[09:46] <Avulture> lol those guys at off topic channel if they talk... just very stupid things.. like how to gain a million dollars
[09:46] <Whack> GNine: I no longer think it's possible, i think its a problem on the hardware or driver level
[09:46] <Tumpster> but i've heard other people having no trouble fixing settings
[09:46] <Crozar> geforce 4 go ( mobile edition ) with windows we tweak that rather to a normal pci desktop card by cracking its .inf from nvidia default site without geting mobile drivers and then reconfigure it through omega settings yes it works and with optimum preformance
[09:46] <rlount> Tumpster, find those people!
[09:46] <webpirate> I had same problem with tht card on my laptop
[09:46] <Tumpster> anyone willing to point me to the right people?
[09:46] <Avulture> rlount, are you registered ?
[09:46] <Whack> GNine: Xev shows KeyPress events instead of ButtonPress events, I don't know how to fix that
[09:46] <rlount> Avulture, yes.
[09:46] <webpirate> but I fixed it I will show you how..
[09:47] <Avulture> great
[09:47] <rlount> Tumpster, if i knwe I'd let you in on it.
[09:47] <rlount> sorry
[09:47] <Tumpster> ;) thanks though
[09:47] <GNine> sigh.. sorry.. too wasted to figure that out Whack friend.. i know i would not buy new ..
[09:48] <Whack> GNine: well, i'll return this one, so it won't cost any extra money
[09:48] <Eliteinsane> did not work
[09:48] <Eliteinsane> :/
[09:48] <GNine> may the force be with ya bro
[09:48] <Eliteinsane> on my laptop now so this should be  much quicker
[09:48] <Whack> GNine: it will probably be cheaper, lol this mouse was 40 bucks
[09:48] <GNine> heh
[09:48] <buttercups> !xorg
[09:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <tanath> Avulture, was there a reason you wanted to talk to me in off-topic? if so, why leave me hanging?
[09:49] <Eliteinsane> still getting peermission denied error
[09:49] <webpirate> Crozar>> did you get my PM?
[09:49] <Whack> but, when you code for 8 hours a day, a good kb and mouse is required
[09:49] <Eliteinsane> Whack, still didnt work
[09:49] <GNine> 10-4 Whack
[09:49] <Whack> Eliteinsane: what file is it trying to modify?
[09:49] <jetscreamer> kinky ircsex
[09:50] <Eliteinsane> unable to create
[09:50] <Eliteinsane> ~/.gnome2 directory
[09:50] <Crozar> yes im theyr
[09:50] <webpirate> ok
[09:50] <Crozar> i cant msg u ? it says somethign about run as root for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:50] <Crozar> what should i add sudo nano or smthn>
[09:50] <Whack> is there already a /home/elite/.gnome2 dir?
[09:51] <steel_lady> I am following ubotu simple steps for recovering boot after win and it gives me Unrecognized command. Please, can someone rewiev this with me?
[09:51] <Eliteinsane> also, could not create per-user gnome config. direcotry /home/elite/.gnome2'
[09:51] <Eliteinsane> i have no clue
[09:51] <Whack> Eliteinsane: ok, open a ternimal
[09:51] <Whack> arg... lol a terminal
[09:51] <tanath> heh
[09:51] <webpirate> I had to play with the setting for my laptop because of black bar on the right side of screen and 800 res....now i keep a backup of my xorg.conf and it work perfect with beryl too
[09:51] <Eliteinsane> go to recovery thing?
[09:51] <Whack> sry, typing with a cigarette
[09:52] <Sferrari> Hi :)
[09:52] <Eliteinsane> i cant open anything because ubuntu doesnt load
[09:52] <Whack> yes
[09:52] <Eliteinsane> ok
[09:52] <webpirate> Crozar?>> you need to edit your xorg.conf
[09:52] <Eliteinsane> hopefully mu laptops battery hold out
[09:52] <Sferrari> I need help in hungarian :)
[09:52] <Eliteinsane> my
[09:52] <Crozar> sudo nano ext3/X11/xorg.conf ??
[09:52] <Sferrari> van itt magyar ?:)
 did you reinstsll windows?
[09:52] <Whack> Eliteinsane: check your im
[09:52] <Myrtti> !hu | Sferrari
[09:52] <ubotu> Sferrari: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[09:53] <Eliteinsane> check what?
[09:53] <Whack> did you get my instant message?
[09:53] <Sferrari> thx :)
[09:53] <dgjones> Crozar, its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:53] <Eliteinsane> no
[09:53] <Whack> oh
[09:53] <Eliteinsane> where?
[09:53] <webpirate> yes..that will wor
[09:53] <Crozar> webpirate in xorg.conf i dont see section options is it because imusing my philps CRT right now?
[09:53] <Sferrari> bye
[09:53] <Myrtti> !register | Whack, Eliteinsane
[09:53] <ubotu> Whack, Eliteinsane: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:53] <Crozar> should i change to nv and restart with my laptop then do these options ?
 difficult to find it. I am croatian :)
[09:53] <Whack> are you at the terminal?
[09:53] <Eliteinsane> yes
[09:54] <Whack> ok, type pwd, and paste the output
[09:54] <webpirate> You have to put them in your "Device" section
[09:54] <Eliteinsane> /root
[09:54] <guxitian> hellow every one
[09:54] <Whack> ok, type cd /home/elite
[09:55] <Eliteinsane> k
[09:55] <Crozar> ok just a sec
[09:55] <yhan> hello
[09:55] <Whack> type cd .gnome2
[09:55] <steel_lady> are there any helpers or only those who have problems?
[09:55] <Eliteinsane>  k
[09:55] <Whack> did it error?
[09:55] <Eliteinsane> no
[09:55] <Whack> ok, so the folder is there, type cd ..
[09:55] <Eliteinsane> k
[09:56] <yhan> i'm trying to install the current gutsy daily live but the ubiquity installer seems broken as it hangs at "120%"
[09:56] <yhan> would i have more luck with the alternate cd?
[09:56] <Whack> and then type ls -la
[09:56] <rpedro_> !justask > steel_lady
[09:56] <Crozar> guys whats the site to paste long things
[09:56] <rpedro_> oops
[09:56] <Eliteinsane> ok
[09:56] <rpedro_> !justask
[09:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:57] <Whack> now find the line with .gnome2 on it, and paste that line
[09:57] <Myrtti> !paste | Crozar
[09:57] <ubotu> Crozar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:57] <dgjones> yhan, gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1, might be better for you to join that channel for advice
[09:57] <tanath> yhan, i didn't have much trouble upgrading from fiesty, if you can do that
[09:57] <Eliteinsane> drwx______ 3 root root 4096
[09:57] <Eliteinsane> _ = -
[09:57] <yhan> dgjones, thanks, sorry about that
[09:57] <reedness> waddp
[09:57] <steel_lady> rpedro_, hablas espaol?
[09:57] <tanath> yhan, that is, if you have feisty installed already
[09:57] <Whack> ok, there is your problem, that folder belongs to the "root" user
[09:57] <rpedro_> steel_lady: everyone's a helper in here :)
[09:57] <dgjones> yhan, no probs
[09:58] <rpedro_> steel_lady: no, portugus
[09:58] <Crozar> webpirate here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37665/
[09:58] <reedness> anyone here try elive ???
[09:58] <Whack> Eliteinsane: type this: "chown -R elite /home/elite/*"
[09:58] <rpedro_> !es | steel_lady
[09:58] <kkathman> tanath:  I got burned badly going from breezy to dapper, cuz I upgraded a bit too early
[09:58] <Eliteinsane> the commadn line is root@elite-desktop
[09:58] <steel_lady> ok, then english. I am following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:58] <Eliteinsane> does that a=matter?
[09:58] <ubotu> steel_lady: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:58] <Eliteinsane> matter
[09:59] <tanath> kkathman, there were some troubles then, but i upgraded two months early from dapper to edgy with little problems, and same to feisty, and now gutsy
[09:59] <Whack> a=?
[09:59] <Eliteinsane> typo
[09:59] <Whack> did you run the chown command?
[09:59] <Eliteinsane> typing with 2 keyboards in my lap
[09:59] <Whack> hehe
[09:59] <Eliteinsane> yes
[10:00] <kkathman> tanath:  its why I always just wait till its about one week after release :)
[10:00] <tanath> kkathman, honestly, this was originally a morphix-based install that got converted to debian, and then into ubuntu, and has been upgraded since hoary and is still kicking
[10:00] <Whack> ok, now again do ls -la, and paste the line that has .gnome2 on it
[10:00] <Extravert> Im gonna return this shitty inkjet printer and get a color laser printer w00t!
[10:00] <tanath> kkathman, i've been upgrading a month or two early with few probs :)
[10:00] <steel_lady> rpedro_, in particular I am going for the option Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader  - because it is temporary. Are you following me?
[10:00] <Pr038> hello
[10:00] <Eliteinsane> its the same
[10:00] <kkathman> tanath:  Ive been on ubuntu since warty :)
[10:00] <Eliteinsane> still root root
[10:00] <tanath> kkathman, er, yeh i used that too, just that far back i forget the order :P
[10:00] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[10:01] <Whack> hmm
[10:01] <CountX> i screwed something up with my task bar
[10:01] <rpedro_> steel_lady: yes
[10:01] <kkathman> tanath:  had no probs till I got to breezy - dapper, and that was a complete reinstall but I had my /home so nbd
[10:01] <Whack> no errors when you did the chown command?
[10:01] <CountX> and i cant get the running application parts working
[10:01] <Eliteinsane> nope
[10:01] <kkathman> tanath:  warty was the 1st I think
[10:01] <rachid> salut
[10:01] <steel_lady> rpedro_ and I am at the step 5. Type "root (hd0,3)". which in Grub prompt gives me: Error 27: Unrecognized command
[10:01] <kkathman> tanath:  warty - hoary -breezy - dapper - edgy - feisty
[10:01] <tanath> kkathman, i ought to move my home to a new partition, but i forget how to set up my user for that
[10:01] <Whack> Eliteinsane: try "chown elite /home/elite/.gnome2"
[10:01] <rpedro_> steel_lady: I think the destop/livecd installer doesnt't ask, it just overwrites the main mbr
[10:02] <tanath> actually, i may have started with hoary after all
[10:02] <Crozar> webpirate here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37665/ and about the sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg im in it and it gave me into configuration page :/ if i do anything what happends?
[10:02] <Eliteinsane> ok
[10:02] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[10:02] <kkathman> tanath:  yah I did that once also - I just copy home over to one of my backup servers, then change the sources.list, do the update and dist-upgrade and hope it all goes :)
[10:02] <BernieMac> kkathman, is that oct '04?
[10:02] <Whack> now try ls -la again and see if it still says root
[10:02] <Eliteinsane> and it still says root
[10:02] <steel_lady> rpedro_ I don't understand what are you telling me
[10:02] <rpedro_> steel_lady: you should use the alternate installer cd, if you want to install the grub to a partition's boot area
[10:02] <kkathman> BernieMac:  allegedly yes :)
[10:02] <Whack> hmm, i don't get it
[10:03] <Whack> everything in the /home/elite folder should belong to the user 'elite'
[10:03] <BernieMac> kkathman, used my expert math skills to figure that one out haha
[10:03] <kkathman> rofl
[10:03] <Crozar> asking me weird questions amount of memory to be used by the video card with KB
[10:03] <tanath> Crozar, you can ignore & hit enter
[10:03] <Eliteinsane> this sucks
[10:03] <Eliteinsane> i spent all today making shit work
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> in ubuntu
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> and  i change 1 litte thing
[10:04] <steel_lady> rpedro_ you didn't understand me. I don't want to install grub, just add ubuntu in win boot, look there at instructions down, without installing grub
[10:04] <rpedro_> steel_lady: one sec, fetching a link
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> adn the world goes to shit
[10:04] <Whack> i don't get it
[10:04] <rpedro_> steel_lady: what instructions? link?
[10:04] <stdin> !ohmy | Eliteinsane
[10:04] <ubotu> Eliteinsane: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:04] <tanath> Eliteinsane, what did you change?
[10:04] <clip> anyone here that runs ubuntu64bit with a geforce 8?! i can't install because i always get a x window error. help please?!
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> permission im my home folder
[10:04] <Whack> anyone have ideas why a chown wouldn't take effect?
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> then it would load my config
[10:04] <Eliteinsane> then things just died
[10:05] <rpedro_> steel_lady: you already installed grub to a specific partition?
[10:05] <tanath> Eliteinsane, so change it back
[10:05] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[10:05] <Whack> his home dir belongs to "root", and chown isn't working
[10:05] <steel_lady> rpedro_ in this link go way down https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader
[10:05] <Eliteinsane> i tried
[10:05] <Eliteinsane> nothing would stick
[10:05] <Eliteinsane> they kept reverting back
[10:05] <tanath> Eliteinsane, that's odd. when do they revert?
[10:05] <lost_horizon> l.net
[10:05] <Whack> tanath: chown is having no effect, and no error
[10:05] <Eliteinsane> wwell i right click and used the properties menu
[10:05] <Eliteinsane> changed them
[10:06] <tanath> Eliteinsane, try from terminal
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> right clickked and went back to properties
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> i did
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> and thats when i couldnt even use ubuntu anymore
[10:06] <tanath> Eliteinsane, are you logged in now?
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> no
[10:06] <Whack> tanath: files in his home dir belong to user "root", and chown isn't changing them
[10:06] <rpedro_> steel_lady: you have more than one hard drive on the pc?
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> im in the recovery console
[10:06] <tanath> Eliteinsane, do you have a livecd?
[10:06] <steel_lady> rpedro_ I reinstalled win after ubuntu. it is for m boyfriend and he wants win to boot first and to use win boot, ubuntu is for me because I have to work and we will have to reinstall win one more time in a couple of weeks
[10:06] <Eliteinsane> yes
[10:06] <tanath> Eliteinsane, i'd recommend doing it from that
[10:07] <tanath> Eliteinsane, boot to the livecd, and mount your harddrive, and change the permissions, then reboot
[10:07] <Eliteinsane> ok so put in the live cd
[10:07] <antler> steel_lady: i would've installed win first, then ubuntu
[10:07] <Eliteinsane> ok
[10:07] <Eliteinsane> how do i mount the HD
[10:07] <steel_lady> rpedro_ there is 1 drive but it has partitions: ubuntu system, ext3 for working in ubuntu, storage and win
[10:07] <tanath> Eliteinsane, should be automatic. if not, you should be able to do it from nautilus
[10:07] <rpedro_> steel_lady: I am trying to find a link for a generic howto (works for any linux), you can make the default windows bootloader boot grub from another partition
[10:07] <steel_lady> antler, that is what we did but we had to reinstall win again
[10:08] <Eliteinsane> booting live cd now
[10:08] <Crozar> omg i was in sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i dont know if i destroyed my linux how to set them back to normal
[10:08] <tanath> Eliteinsane, if not, the command is 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1' (device path, then mount path)
[10:08] <antler> steel_lady: now neither boots, right?
[10:08] <tanath> Eliteinsane, run with sudo
[10:09] <Eliteinsane> ok well its still booting so gimme a sex
[10:09] <Eliteinsane> sec
[10:09] <steel_lady> antler, no win boots ok
[10:09] <tanath> lol
[10:09] <Le^stat> heh
[10:09] <tanath> Eliteinsane, freudian slip? :P
[10:09] <Eliteinsane> what
[10:09] <Eliteinsane> lol
[10:09] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[10:09] <Crozar> webpirate u theyr
[10:10] <buttercups> !printer
[10:10] <rpedro_> steel_lady: ah, you have any logical partitions at all on that drive? if you do, (hd0,3) points to /dev/hda4, which is the logical partitions enclosure, i.e., its not a valid partions in that case
[10:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:10] <steel_lady> rpedro_ did you read the link I gave to you? those are general instructions I just don't know what I messed up there
[10:10] <Eliteinsane> well thats interesting
[10:10] <Whack> did it work from live cd?
[10:10] <Eliteinsane> yea
[10:10] <Whack> booting, or changing the permissions?
[10:10] <Eliteinsane> it even booted in 1280 1024 resolution
[10:10] <Eliteinsane> booting
[10:11] <tanath> Eliteinsane, i'm assuming ubuntu is installed to the first hd & first partition with the '/dev/hda1'
[10:11] <Whack> yeab, but thats loading everything from CD
[10:11] <Eliteinsane> 2nd partition
[10:11] <steel_lady> rpedro_ yes I have logical partitions. I think 3 partitions are under the logical one. but the command in instructions there gives me (hd=,4)
[10:11] <tanath> Eliteinsane, i guess the default is better than whatever you're using now
[10:11] <brunner> is it possible to use stable, testing, or unstable instead of feisty, gutsy, or hurd in sources.list?
[10:11] <steel_lady> rpedro_ (hd0,4)
[10:11] <Eliteinsane> ok live cd is booted
[10:11] <tanath> Eliteinsane, prolly your xorg.conf has been customized
[10:11] <Doitle> Whoah this right to left override is nuts!
[10:12] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[10:12] <tanath> Eliteinsane, that would override the default settings
[10:12] <Eliteinsane> hm
[10:12] <Eliteinsane> so at least my settings are still theer
[10:12] <Eliteinsane> not that i can use them with my install
[10:12] <Eliteinsane> ok so i have terminal open
[10:12] <Eliteinsane> now waht
[10:12] <Whack> Eliteinsane: open a terminal, and now try "sudo chown -R elite /home/elite"
[10:13] <tanath> xstasi, why not use the ndiswrapper in the repository?
[10:13] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[10:13] <Eliteinsane> even if it isnt mounted?
[10:13] <Eliteinsane> or is it
[10:13] <Whack> it should be
[10:13] <ravon> Anyone else who has OpenGL problems on Intel after this weekend's updates?
[10:13] <rpedro_> steel_lady: do you remember which partition number (hda?) you installed ubuntu to?
[10:13] <tanath> Eliteinsane, not if it isn't mounted :p
[10:13] <Whack> you can check first by doing "ls -la /home/elite"
[10:13] <steel_lady> rpedro_ when I enter gparted, it tells me that the real linux partition is sda5
[10:13] <tanath> Eliteinsane, and even if it were, that wouldn't work
[10:14] <tanath> Eliteinsane, the livecd doesn't know the user 'elite'
[10:14] <Eliteinsane> elite invalid user
[10:14] <tanath> :D
[10:14] <Eliteinsane> lol
[10:14] <Whack> aww crap, i didnt think of that
[10:14] <Eliteinsane> nice call
[10:14] <rpedro_> steel_lady: ok, so '/dev/sda5' should be (hd0,4) in your case :)
[10:14] <tanath> Eliteinsane, open nautilus and see if your HD is mounted
[10:14] <Whack> well, you can temporarily chmod it to 777, full perms for all
[10:14] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[10:15] <Eliteinsane> how do i open nautilus
[10:15] <tanath> xsteelwolf, why not use the ndiswrapper from the repository?
[10:15] <steel_lady> rpedro_why it doesn't work thern when I type in grub root  (hd0,4) ?
[10:15] <rpedro_> steel_lady: about the link you gave, I just don't see anything there that configures the windows bootloader to find the ubuntu installation
[10:15] <tanath> Eliteinsane, open 'my computer' or whatever
[10:15] <onats> anyone know how to change keyring manager password?
[10:15] <tanath> Eliteinsane, or, press ALT+F2, then run 'nautilus'
[10:16] <Extravert> how come theres a big difference between 600dpi quality of a inkjet and laser?
[10:16] <antler> steel_lady: i think the easiest way is to install grub.
[10:16] <Eliteinsane> ok
[10:16] <steel_lady> rpedro type find on the page and search for Windows Bootloader in title
[10:16] <steel_lady> antler I do not want to install grub
[10:16] <tanath> Eliteinsane, there should be a panel on the left called Places. do you see your HD there?
[10:16] <Eliteinsane> yea
[10:16] <tanath> Eliteinsane, along with the disc drive
[10:17] <tanath> Eliteinsane, good, double-click it
[10:17] <tanath> Eliteinsane, to make sure it's mounted
[10:17] <tanath> Eliteinsane, and see where it's mounted to
[10:17] <tico> hello guys!!
[10:17] <Eliteinsane> ok well i see my 2nd HD
[10:17] <Eliteinsane> my windows partition
[10:17] <Eliteinsane> and the 50gb one i use for ubuntu
[10:18] <xsteelwolf> Anyone using compaq 8510w?
[10:18] <Eliteinsane> i double clicked the 50 one and it disappeared
[10:18] <steel_lady> antler there are normal instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, the second big title after quick start (scrolllll down)
[10:18] <tanath> Eliteinsane, go to your ubuntu one
[10:18] <xsteelwolf> Anyone using compaq 8510w?
[10:18] <paulowsky> i have ubuntu feisty on my laptop but i cant get my memory card reader to work. it's a toshiba satellite A100 and the card is by texas instruments. wat can i do?
[10:18] <tanath> Eliteinsane, disappeared? lol. did it reappear?
[10:18] <Eliteinsane> now it says "disk"
[10:18] <Eliteinsane> double clicked that
[10:18] <tanath> Eliteinsane, sometimes that'll happen when it's mounting it. then it'll come back renamed.. yeh, see
[10:18] <Eliteinsane> and its giving me the loading cursor
[10:18] <webpirate> Paulowsky>> I can't get mine to work either.....let me know if you find something out
[10:18] <steel_lady> xsteelwolf, compaq laptops betrayed me several times, I avoid them now
[10:18] <tanath> Eliteinsane, be patient with it, you're running off the disc
[10:19] <xsteelwolf> betray as in ??drivers?
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> disc isnt spinning
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> so im assmuming its just messing with me now
[10:19] <tanath> Eliteinsane, lol. it's teasing you
[10:19] <paulowsky> hey and does your  bluetooth work?
[10:19] <Crozar> wow my laptop screen works
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> ok
[10:19] <webpirate> I don't have bluetooth on my toshiba...
[10:19] <tanath> Eliteinsane, so can you get to it in nautilus?
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> theres an icon called "disk"
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> on the desktop
[10:19] <tico> I'm using Gnome Network Manager but each time when i restart my computer GNM ask me for the password.... is possible to store or something the password (the problem is that the password is very hard to type, to many numbers)
[10:19] <tanath> Eliteinsane, that should do it
[10:19] <Eliteinsane> well
[10:19] <ravon> This one seems to be back: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/60288
[10:20] <Crozar> buts its on 1024 res  how to increase? any1 :(
[10:20] <Eliteinsane> i doucle click it
[10:20] <Eliteinsane> nothing is there
[10:20] <Eliteinsane> and it gives that cursor
[10:20] <Extravert> Why does my text have lines running through them at 1200 dpi?!
[10:20] <tanath> Eliteinsane, it opens but doesn't show anything?
[10:20] <Eliteinsane> yea
[10:20] <rpedro_> steel_lady: are you saying you get an error in the grub console when you type that in; or that ubuntu doesn't show up on the windows bootloader screen after you follow  the instructions?
[10:20] <tanath> Eliteinsane, what's the path?
[10:20] <Crozar> brb ill try something
[10:20] <Slart> !res | Crozar
[10:20] <ubotu> Crozar: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:20] <antler> steel_lady: all is see is stuff about grub
[10:21] <Eliteinsane> path?
[10:21] <tanath> Eliteinsane, at the top it should show your location, just like in windows explorer
[10:21] <steel_lady> rpedro_ in the grub console I try to do the step 5 and it doesn't recognize the command root
[10:21] <g00se> Just changed hostname in /etc/hostname and edited /etc/hosts and done  /etc/init.d/networking restart over ssh. The hostname hasn't changed. Why not?
[10:21] <Eliteinsane> i dont see that
[10:21] <Crozar> my terminal dont show nothing its white
[10:21] <Crozar> :/
[10:22] <tico> some body know???  I'm using Gnome Network Manager but each time when i restart my computer GNM ask me for the password.... is possible to store or something the password (the problem is that the password is very hard to type, to many numbers)
[10:22] <tanath> Eliteinsane, in nautilus, under the buttons, it should say Location: /some/path/here
[10:22] <Eliteinsane> it doesnt
[10:22] <Eliteinsane> :/
[10:22] <tanath> Eliteinsane, o.O
[10:22] <tanath> Eliteinsane, try running 'mount' in a terminal to see what's mounted
[10:22] <steel_lady> antler it says there: The method shown above puts GRUB back on the MBR (master boot record) of the hard drive instead of in the root partition. But you probably won't want that, if you use a third-party boot manager like Boot Magic or System Commander.  In that case, use this alternative.
[10:22] <Pr038> Does anyone had luck installing ubuntu on IBM 306 with raid support, (adp94xx) module is required?
[10:22] <tanath> Eliteinsane, look for /dev/hda1
[10:23] <Crozar> im in some bug
[10:23] <Eliteinsane> keyboard isnt responding now
[10:23] <Eliteinsane> wonderful
[10:23] <Crozar> i cant see the bar ontop of any file and terminal white sdreen now im scared
[10:23] <tanath> Eliteinsane, might be a focus issue. try clicking different things to change the focus
[10:23] <Crozar> and lines come on my screen
[10:23] <Crozar> many lines
[10:23] <Eliteinsane> i hit caps lock and no light
[10:23] <Crozar> i did what webpirate told me i might burn screen :(
[10:23] <tanath> Eliteinsane, try hitting capslock ... yeh, darn
[10:23] <dmc68> howdy gang. tried to rename my xorg.conf file last night in rescue mode, and it said i cant cause permission denied. anyone know how to do this from the command prompt?
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> wow
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> this really f'in sucks
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> ill have to spend all tomorrow re setting stuff up
[10:24] <Crozar> lol
[10:24] <tanath> Eliteinsane, weird... you sure you don't have a hardware issue?
[10:24] <Crozar> me2
[10:24] <Whack> dmc68: do sudo mv xorg.conf newfile.conf
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> its plugged in
[10:24] <tanath> Eliteinsane, how old is your comp?
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> new
[10:24] <dmc68> ok thanx mate
[10:24] <Whack> dmc68: it will ask for root password
[10:24] <tanath> Eliteinsane, lol... could be dust or something
[10:24] <tanath> Eliteinsane, how new?
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> amd 4600+ 2.4 dual core
[10:24] <Eliteinsane> 2gb ram
[10:25] <VoX> hmm. how do i go about giving additional disks a uuid for use in fstab?
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> nvidia 7900GS
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> lol
[10:25] <tanath> Eliteinsane, alright, new enough :P
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> so fuck it
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> ill reinstall ubuntu
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> and not touch permissions on folders
[10:25] <Eliteinsane> ever again
[10:25] <Whack> lol
[10:25] <xsteelwolf> Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/source'
[10:25] <xsteelwolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[10:25] <tanath> Eliteinsane, it's fixable, just slightly tedious
[10:25] <xsteelwolf> anyone knows this error?
[10:25] <tanath> Eliteinsane, lol, just be more careful :P
[10:26] <Eliteinsane> i dont care anymore
[10:26] <Eliteinsane> lol
[10:26] <Whack> i dont understand how the home/elite/.gnome2 folder could get chown'd to root
[10:26] <dgjones> !uuid | VoX, you can find the uuid's for new drives/partitions using the info here
[10:26] <ubotu> VoX, you can find the uuid's for new drives/partitions using the info here: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:26] <tanath> Whack, prolly ran one of those commands you guys said with sudo
[10:26] <rlount> Whack, maybe by running something w/ out gksudo
[10:26] <Whack> and i really don't understand why a simple chown won't change it back
[10:26] <tanath> or something
[10:26] <rlount> sudo and gksudo are diff.
[10:26] <Eliteinsane> i was in recovery terminal tanath
[10:26] <Whack> well chmod shouldn't ever change the owner
[10:26] <VoX> dgjones: cheears
[10:27] <Irreducibilis> I cant find my live CD anywhere!
[10:27] <rlount> if you are in GUI mode and call nautilus w/ sudo you are hosed.
[10:27] <Le^stat> i wish i uderstood half of the things that are spoken about in this room
[10:27] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[10:27] <tanath> Whack, if he ran some gui app with sudo, gksu, or gksudo, it might mess up the perms
[10:27] <Whack> yeah, i guess
[10:27] <rlount> right.
[10:27] <tanath> Eliteinsane, so the KB is dead?
[10:27] <Eliteinsane> i messed up the perms on my home folder
[10:27] <Eliteinsane> kb?
[10:27] <Whack> but how come chown is having no effect from tty?
[10:27] <tanath> Eliteinsane, keyboard
[10:27] <Eliteinsane> lemme reboot
[10:27] <steel_lady> rpedro_ are you here?
[10:27] <tanath> Eliteinsane, you could simply create a new user
[10:28] <rpedro_> steel_lady: yes
[10:28] <Eliteinsane> still have to reconfig everything
[10:28] <tanath> Eliteinsane, might be less hassle than reinstalling like you were gonna :P
[10:28] <Eliteinsane> ehhh
[10:28] <Eliteinsane> probably more
[10:28] <tanath> Eliteinsane, some things will be the same for every user
[10:28] <roachmmflhyr> i have made a new forum for everyone to check out.  If you like to program, need help, want to help others, or just donate scripts or tutorials please check out my new forum there's not many people who have joined yet but im trying to get it out there http://c.linuxsecured.net
[10:29] <steel_lady> rpedro_ so did you read those steps? everything seems fine untill trying to put that command in grub console
[10:29] <Eliteinsane> how do i create a new user then
[10:29] <tanath> Eliteinsane, you might just make a backup of anything you need, and reinstall. sounds like a fresh install might fix some other probs anyway
[10:29] <Whack> Eliteinsane: if it makes ya feel any better, I've spent like 5 hours tonight trying to get a damn mouse to work right...
[10:29] <Eliteinsane> ok well im go
[10:29] <tanath> Eliteinsane, you have more than one comp, so maybe just put your HD in another comp for backup
[10:29] <Eliteinsane> gotta sleep
[10:29] <Eliteinsane> and my battery is dying
[10:29] <tanath> Eliteinsane, good luck
[10:29] <tanath> Eliteinsane, night
[10:29] <Eliteinsane> night guyus
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> Helo?
[10:30] <Eliteinsane> thanks for the help
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> Help?
[10:30] <tanath> np
[10:30] <george_> Hi, i'm just having so trouble resizing my root partition in ubuntu 7.04. When i use gnome partition editor i get an error saying that it is unable to unmount it and to do so manually
[10:30] <Eliteinsane> Whack, thanks and goodnight
[10:30] <george_> any help would be appreciated :)
[10:30] <Whack> no prob, night
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> My CD drive is refusing to eject my CD, no matter how many times I press the eject button
[10:30] <tanath> george_, that usually means something's using that partition
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> help?
[10:30] <morpheus> is there a way to remove a "half installed" vmware server balls up on ubuntu? i keep getting told to re-install, then when i do the install fails
[10:30] <tico> does somebody know how to????  I'm using Gnome Network Manager but each time when i restart my computer GNM ask me for the password.... is possible to store or something the password (the problem is that the password is very hard to type, to many numbers)
[10:30] <tanath> george_, maybe nautilus or a terminal
[10:30] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: if you want to restore the windows boot loader then you grab the win boot cd and whent it setup asks choose recovery console. (it will ask you for administrator password) when you get the prompt, type: <fixmbr>, <fixboot>. after this you should be able to boot in windows and not in linux. following the howto provided by anthler you shold be able to boot linux with windows boot loader
[10:30] <Whack> Irreducibilis: eject it from nautilus
[10:30] <rpedro_> steel_lady: what is the error message?
[10:31] <Irreducibilis> Whack: tried that
[10:31] <tanath> george_, or fam, a 'file alteration monitor'
[10:31] <tanath> george_, can't unmount as long as something's reading or writing or has a lock
[10:31] <Whack> Irreducibilis: well, you could try rebooting, or the paperclip trick
[10:31] <tanath> george_, you can run lsof to find out what's using it
[10:31] <george_> ah, ok. It's my root partition of ubuntu with a mount point of "/"
[10:32] <tanath> george_, well, you can't resize the partition, when you're booted into it
[10:32] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I boot win normally, I just want to add ubuntu in win bootloader as described in those oficial ubuntu instructions but unfortunately they don't work
[10:32] <Irreducibilis> Whack: I just tried the paperclip trick, and it made a nice grinding sound as the disk skidded to a halt, but it still refused to open
[10:32] <tanath> george_, you'll have to boot to another partition, or from a livecd
[10:32] <Whack> Irreducibilis: yeah, you have to turn the computer off
[10:33] <Whack> otherwise it will just pull it back in
[10:33] <george_> ah, kk. Will try that, thanks for that. Much appreciated :)
[10:33] <SefBacsi> k
[10:33] <tanath> np
[10:33] <tanath> Irreducibilis, the paperclip trick should always work...
[10:33] <morpheus> is there a way to remove a "half installed" vmware server balls up on ubuntu? i keep getting told to re-install, then when i do the install fails
[10:34] <tanath> morpheus, why's it faliing?
[10:34] <tanath> *failing
[10:34] <rpedro> steel_lady: did you get my pm?
[10:35] <Irreducibilis> ERM quick question
[10:35] <slapfaceware> anyone suggest an easy to use ftp server
[10:35] <morpheus> "sub-proccess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[10:35] <steel_lady> rpedro_  I repeated the procedure and it is not giving me the error any more, wait till I try to reboot
[10:35] <Whack> rpedro: only registered users can send im's, look in your status window
[10:35] <Irreducibilis> Would there be a way to tell from a bunch of unmarked burned CDs which one is my Ubuntu LiveCD?
[10:35] <ari_stress> slapfaceware: pureftpd.org
[10:35] <tanath> morpheus, there should be another error before that
[10:35] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: what kinda windoze? how are your partitions made? where did you install grub/lilo?
[10:35] <Irreducibilis> without putting them all in and looking?
[10:35] <clip> whats the difference between gutsy ubuntu and feisty release?
[10:35] <slapfaceware> anyone suggest an easy to config  ftp server
[10:35] <morpheus> thats all that came up on synaptic
[10:35] <rpedro> steel_lady: ok
[10:35] <[nrx] > Irreducibilis: eh, no
[10:35] <delire> why is it that when i 'sudo addgroup name someGroup' and then 'groups', "someGroup" doesn't appear in the output? it does on my Debian machines..
[10:35] <Irreducibilis> :(
[10:35] <minimec> What would you say... xmms, beep-media-player, audacious? Other ideas?
[10:35] <Whack> i think gutsy is beta
[10:36] <tanath> Irreducibilis, put them in your computer and see :P
[10:36] <ari_stress> slapfaceware: http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd
[10:36] <clip> but gutsy is dvd too
[10:36] <Irreducibilis> Note to self... label things next time
[10:36] <morpheus> are there any alternatives to vmware server for ubuntu?
[10:36] <[nrx] > Irreducibilis: good idea :)
[10:36] <webpirate> Xmms is the best I think
[10:36] <ari_stress> morpheus: virtualbox
[10:36] <Whack> agreed, xmms rules
[10:36] <tanath> morpheus, try from a terminal
[10:36] <ari_stress> !virtualbox } morpheus
[10:36] <ari_stress> !virtualbox | morpheus
[10:36] <ubotu> morpheus: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:36] <Whack> minimec: if you're looking for something closer to itunes though, banshee is pretty good
[10:36] <tanath> Whack, xmms sucks :P
[10:37] <webpirate> :(
[10:37] <webpirate> I like it...
[10:37] <Whack> hehe i like xmms
[10:37] <morpheus> will try from terminal, then if no joy will give virtual box a bash
[10:37] <tanath> Whack, xmms2 is a little better, but amarok owns it :P
[10:37] <vraa> what's up guys
[10:37] <Whack> i dont use visualization or any of that stuff, just the smallest possible footprint
[10:37] <ari_stress> tanath: there's xmms2?
[10:37] <tanath> i used to, but it's buggy & dead
[10:37] <trpr> hehe. me too. i like xmms. i heard using it is a security risk though due to gtk1 bugs
[10:37] <webpirate> WHAT!!! xmms2...what is this creature you speak of?
[10:37] <tanath> ari_stress, they're working on it, yeh
[10:37] <minimec> webpirate: Whack thx. Always used xmms. So I will continue using it. My last gtk1 app ;)
[10:37] <vraa> if you had to pick a replacement to Outlook Contacts, what would it be (or mac os x Address Book)
[10:38] <webpirate> is xmms2 an update?
[10:38] <webpirate> I enver heard of it..
[10:38] <Whack> my only complaint is that compiz effects don't work on xmms
[10:38] <tanath> they've been working on it for a while now
[10:38] <webpirate> I am jelous now!! I MUST HAVE IT!!
[10:38] <tanath> ever tried amarok?
[10:38] <tanath> it's the best
[10:38] <steel_lady> SefBacsi (are you hungarian?) I have vista on first than the extended partition devided into ubuntu, ext3 for work swap and storage
[10:38] <Myrtti> exaile <3
[10:38] <SefBacsi> yes
[10:38] <tanath> not as leightweight, but it's the best
[10:38] <ari_stress> vraa: try groupwise from novell
[10:38] <minimec> Whack: Hmm. Banshee... I am more an exaile guy, but why not...
[10:38] <roachmmflhyr> Ive started a new programming forum if anyone is interested in learning, helping others, or donating script or tutorials check it out http://c.linuxsecured.net theres not many people that have joined its only a couple days old but im trying to get it out there thanks...
[10:38] <webpirate> I dunno...just kinda plain looking...can you get skins for amorak?
[10:39] <tanath> bah @ exaile & banshee
[10:39] <vraa> ari_stress, oh my, that sounds complicated. i just need something that stores contacts and phone numbers -- bonus points if they can sync across a network by itself
[10:39] <steel_lady> rpedro I completed those steps and rebooted but it boots to win without asking anything
[10:39] <vraa> i'm doing cost analysis on implementing linux versus windows in a 10 computer workplace
[10:39] <tanath> Whack, amarok is meant to be a kde app, but runs fine in gnome, and does everything :)
[10:39] <vraa> what is the difference between Add/Remove and Synaptics ?
[10:40] <Whack> synaptics is package management, add/remove is just applications
[10:40] <tanath> vraa, add/remove is meant to be a simplistic interface. synaptic is a bit more advanced
[10:40] <[nrx] > there's more than just synaptic, too... like apt and adept etc
[10:40] <tanath> vraa, add/remove basically passes things on to synaptic
[10:40] <vraa> it's kinda confusing to have both, am i able to easily remove access (or at least the easy ability to access) both of those things?
[10:40] <webpirate> As much as I love linux I don't think its practical as a workplace desktop solution....A workplace server linux is a must.....but not as a desktop....people are too affraid to learn something new
[10:40] <tanath> [nrx] , yeh, they're front-ends
[10:41] <[nrx] > :)
[10:41] <Flannel> vraa: add/remove has a tiny subset of the total packages you have available to you, synaptic is the full thing.
[10:41] <vraa> webpirate, dont worry about people, my employees are incredibly adapt. as long as they can get their job done
[10:41] <rpedro> steel_lady: yes, maybe you have to press F8 right after the bios detects the hardware. Just keep pressing f8 until you get a menu.
[10:41] <webpirate> So remember to include the cost of teaching in your analysis
[10:41] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: you can edit the main menu preferences to remove one of them
[10:41] <vraa> howlingmadhowie, excellent.
[10:41] <tanath> webpirate, to each their own
[10:41] <vraa> can i run Korganizer (a KDE app) in Ubuntu? Or do I have to start out with kubuntu first ?
[10:41] <webpirate> Well if you have good employees who are not afraid to learn something new then I HIGHLY suggest linux....
[10:42] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: System:-Settings:-Main menu
[10:42] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: yes i am hungarian. if it doesn't ask anything it means that windows is the only os that the windows boot loader knows about. you should edit the windows boot config file: c:\boot.ini
[10:42] <dgjones> vraa, you can run kde app's in ubuntu
[10:42] <rpedro> steel_lady: can I send you a private message?
[10:42] <webpirate> I can't stand windows anymore after living with linux for 2 years now...
[10:42] <vraa> i am tired of windows. my goal is to turn the desktops into dumb terminals netbooting iso's from a server
[10:42] <Flannel> vraa: Have you checked out edubuntu?
[10:42] <vraa> okay let me try kOrganizer, bbl a few minuntes
[10:42] <Whack> i can't give up windows yet, all of my games are on there
[10:42] <vraa> Flannel, yes, but that's education oriented yes?
[10:43] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know whats the good package i need to download to get support for all the media files?
[10:43] <tanath> Whack, you can get a lot of win games running in linux
[10:43] <Le^stat> heh @ Whack
[10:43] <webpirate> Yea...that's the only thing about linux...is the games issue.....
[10:43] <Whack> Tarkus: you'll need the gstreamer plugins
[10:43] <Flannel> vraa: Well, only by default.  You can put whatever you want on it.  Its got netboot server/client install CDs
[10:43] <tanath> !codecs | Tarkus
[10:43] <ubotu> Tarkus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:43] <Whack> tanath: yeah, under wine, right?
[10:43] <Irreducibilis> A very slightly ubuntu question:
[10:43] <tanath> Whack, yeh
[10:43] <tanath> Whack, and/or cedega
[10:43] <Tarkus> Whack, what GStreamer package do i get.. i see 3 different ones in the repos.
[10:43] <xsteelwolf> please i need some help here, can someone tell me what's the error?
[10:43] <xsteelwolf> Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/source'
[10:43] <xsteelwolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[10:43] <Whack> i haven't looked to see which ones have native builds, i think HL2 does
[10:44] <Whack> but battlefield2/2142, WoW
[10:44] <webpirate> But I can't see any other reason to go back to windows......except that my Updater for my XM Radio does not work in wine....it can't find USB... :(
[10:44] <rpedro> steel_lady: I think you need to have a registered nick to speak in pvt.
[10:44] <[nrx] > Tarkus: read the documentation - it tells you exactly what you need
[10:44] <Irreducibilis> My room is like the messiest room EVER, and I am wondering what is the best way to find my LiveCD in the bottom of a mess, since I kind of need it in order to put it on a flash drive
[10:44] <webpirate> So I just don't update my XMradio....
[10:44] <Flannel> vraa: Like all things in ubuntu (kubuntu, ubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu), the only difference between them is the initial packages installed.  With edubuntu, you get a pre-made client/server install CD (which you can then modify... just the server, to get wahtever you want ultimately)
[10:44] <vraa> ah i see, so edubuntu is netboot able. excellent!
[10:44] <Irreducibilis> And I dont have time to clean it....
[10:44] <Whack> Irreducibilis: write off the old one as a loss, and burn a new one
[10:44] <arvind> xsteelwolf:
[10:44] <Irreducibilis> oh...fine...
[10:44] <webpirate> I would rather not update my XMradio than install windows...
[10:44] <arvind> xsteelwolf: are you trying to compile the kernel
[10:44] <Le^stat> Irreducibilis... i hear whistling works....
[10:44] <xsteelwolf> im trying to install my intel 4965g
[10:44] <Flannel> vraa: well, they all are.  But you'll have preconfigured installs isntead of having to go through and do each one (or clone each one, or whatnot)
[10:44] <xsteelwolf> agn
[10:44] <Le^stat> :P
[10:45] <tanath> Irreducibilis, depends on the shape of your room, and the furniture in it. if it's square, a spiral search pattern may be most efficient :D :P
[10:45] <vraa> now is this possible: i have my ubuntu laptop as the server. then each "terminal" has the client and i can push out updates unseen to the "terminals" whenever the laptop is within vicinity of the wifi network?
[10:45] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: there is another thing: this file is read only. first you have to remove the read only flag, otherwise you can not save it with the same filename
[10:45] <rpedro> steel_lady: type this in the main (server) tab:  /nickserv register *password*
[10:45] <vraa> so preconfigured installs work? what about unique station names? can those be randomized?
[10:45] <Irreducibilis> tanath: Are you serious? :P
[10:45] <tanath> Irreducibilis, somewhat :D
[10:45] <Irreducibilis> huh...
[10:45] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I don't see boot.ini in win
[10:45] <webpirate> I tried redhad years ago but never really gave it a chance until I bought a 64bit processor and wanted to test it on a 64bit os...MS did not have a 64bit OS yes so I tried ubuntu...and I have not turned back...
[10:46] <Irreducibilis> I might or might not have the .iso on my windows box
[10:46] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: theoretically yes. i just don't know how many shell scripts you'd have to write yourself
[10:46] <Irreducibilis> Ill have to run a search for it
[10:46] <vraa> oh my, i assume that requires indepth linux knowledge?
[10:46] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and it's hidden :)
[10:46] <steel_lady> rpedro, you are telling me to boot from live CD again?
[10:46] <tanath> Irreducibilis, of course, i'm assuming an almost maximally messy room, including floor, and minimal furniture-type obstacles...
[10:46] <Whack> I ran mandrake for a bit, i hated it, and it became abandoned
[10:46] <steel_lady> SefBacsi how? do I unhide it
[10:46] <[nrx] > mandrake lol. that was tosh.
[10:46] <webpirate> To find a CD in a messy room run the following command : Locate LOSCD /home/messyroom..
[10:47] <tanath> Irreducibilis, 'ls /dev/room | grep -i cd'  :D
[10:47] <Irreducibilis> tanath: I am not the strongest, and seem unable to lift up my bed....
[10:47] <Whack> well, i was looking for "easy to learn" builds, and mandrake was supposed to be easy
[10:47] <[nrx] > steel_lady: try start > run > msconfig
[10:47] <Irreducibilis> Oh well
[10:47] <rpedro> steel_lady: maybe it's better. I was hoping, but I don't really belive the instructions from the wiki explain how to make ubuntu show up on the windows bootloader.
[10:47] <Whack> anyone remember lycoris?
[10:47] <Irreducibilis> Im just going to look for it on my windoze box so I can burn a new one
[10:47] <Irreducibilis> assuming I have it there...
[10:47] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: if you type in start->run msconfig, it should edit boot.ini too. (i think)
[10:47] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: not really. a few shell scripts don't take that long. have you ever used a scripting languages?
[10:47] <Irreducibilis> I probably do, I only have 8% free space and I keep everything
[10:48] <tanath> Irreducibilis, actually, this would be better: 'sudo ls -al /dev/house | grep -i ubuntu' :P
[10:48] <webpirate> I also tried fedora but it was too heavy....but it was very nice..
[10:48] <Irreducibilis> >_^
[10:48] <Whack> i haven't tried fedora, but I've heard good things about it
[10:48] <vraa> i have been "taught" c++, java, and vb.net. i have a basic understanding of how php works. but there is a reason why i have a mac hehe
[10:48] <webpirate> yes...Fedora is very very good....
[10:48] <fermatsltheorem> Suse's yast is hte best
[10:48] <[nrx] > mac?
[10:48] <[nrx] > NO SWEARING IN HERE! ;p
[10:48] <vraa> ubuntu will never have genuine update stuff right?
[10:48] <[nrx] > ehehe
[10:49] <Irreducibilis> !language
[10:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:49] <Flannel> vraa: genuine?
[10:49] <webpirate> I think fedora is probably the best linux distro..
[10:49] <steel_lady> StefBacsi, [nrx]  now I am in there and I see the line for booting win. how can I add ubuntu?
[10:49] <Irreducibilis> :D
[10:49] <fermatsltheorem> [nrx] : fermatstheorem->proud owner of a shiny macbook pro
[10:49] <tanath> vraa, as in windows genuine advantage?
[10:49] <webpirate> but there is somthhing about ubuntu that keeps me..
[10:49] <[nrx] > steel_lady: you'll need to check the ubuntu wikie for help with that
[10:49] <Whack> hehe where I work everyone uses a mac
[10:49] <[nrx] > !dualboot
[10:49] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[10:49] <vraa> well one of the reasons i want to run ubuntu rather than windows is because windows is making me jump through hoops
[10:49] <tanath> vraa, most definitely not
[10:49] <Whack> i've spent this weekend configuring my ubuntu box to take to work, so I DON'T have to use a mac
[10:49] <[nrx] > fermatsltheorem: yeah, but you're weird ;p hehe
[10:49] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: that's the point when google halps us :D i'll search and come back
[10:49] <vraa> in order to update X i have to update Y and i have to restart six times and then reinstall the sata drivers
[10:49] <fermatsltheorem> [nrx] : somebody is jealous
[10:49] <remi____> hi all. I have a trust pcmcia --> usb 2.0 card. How to install it on ubuntu ?
[10:50] <Irreducibilis> Nowwwww, What could possibly be the ADVANTAGE of a genuine copy of Windows? You have to pay for it!
[10:50] <webpirate> I like the fact that in linux everything is here and it's free.....
[10:50] <fermatsltheorem> remi____: pcmcia should work just fine
[10:50] <Whack> Irreducibilis: support. Costs money for ubuntu also
[10:50] <fermatsltheorem> remi____: did you test it by pluggin in some device?
[10:50] <Flannel> vraa: No.  Although, you obviously need to satisfy dependencies.  But no, full restarts are only required for kernel updates (and only whenever you're ready, before that, its just another file sitting on your HDD)
[10:50] <webpirate> I don't have to play the cracking game
[10:50] <Irreducibilis> Whack: Who needs support when you can do it yourself?
[10:50] <tanath> i like the fact that i can run a single command and seconds later be running a program i never had before :)
[10:50] <[nrx] > fermatsltheorem: never in a million years
[10:50] <Tokeiito> labas dienas
[10:50] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: ubuntu won't make you jump through that sort of hoops :)
[10:50] <Whack> true
[10:50] <Irreducibilis> Whack: Go power uses! :P
[10:50] <Irreducibilis> users too
[10:50] <vraa> from what i understand, it isn't annoying right? windows says "update me, pick me, pick me, update me!"
[10:51] <Whack> yeah, but in an office envirnonment, support is much more important
[10:51] <[nrx] > vraa: ubuntu does the same
[10:51] <Flannel> vraa: no, you just hit 'upgrade' and it downloads/installs everything.
[10:51] <Whack> they don't usually have all day to trudge through forums and IRC
[10:51] <vraa> i have checked the box next to "KOrganizer", but i can't seem to find it in my Applications menu list.
[10:51] <tanath> that's what redhat is for :P
[10:51] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: linux will be your bestest buddy forever if you make the effort
[10:51] <Flannel> vraa: you can turn off update-maanger if you'd like to never be bothered re: upgrades too
[10:51] <webpirate> Have you heard about the latest windows scam? MS has been updating peoples computers even though people choose not to update
[10:51] <fermatsltheorem> [nrx] : on a serious note, i should say the hardware is prety decent, while i truly enjoy the freedom of linux, i find mac os x to be quite nice. but i cannot do without linux
[10:51] <netyire> hi all! anyone know how to an equivalent for mp3 gain on windows?
[10:51] <Whack> i just can't wait to bring my ubuntu box to work tomorrow and own all the mac geeks lol
[10:52] <tanath> vraa, ALT+F2
[10:52] <[nrx] > fermatsltheorem: that's the problem. mac's more shiney and "oOoOoo lOOooOok"
[10:52] <Flannel> !offtopic
[10:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:52] <tanath> vraa, i think it'd be in office stuff..
[10:52] <fermatsltheorem> Whack: i also suggest installing fluxbox to flummox the artisie mac types
[10:52] <netyire> or how to modify the volume of a couple of mp3 files to roughly the same level :D?
[10:52] <vraa> Do i have to restart?
[10:52] <Whack> fermatsltheorem: googling it
[10:52] <[nrx] > vraa: no :)
[10:52] <Flannel> vraa: Only whenever you feel like having the newer kernel you just installed.
[10:52] <tanath> vraa, no
[10:52] <vraa> tanath, I pressed ALT+F2, typed in KOrganizer and it said it was not found
[10:52] <vraa> I do not have an Office menu
[10:52] <webpirate> netyire>> audacity will adjust volume levels on mp3
[10:53] <fermatsltheorem> [nrx] : apart form the shiny factor, the hardware as such is quite good,
[10:53] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: you only ever <b>have</b> to restart when you change the kernel (and even then there are ways to avoid that)
[10:53] <tanath> vraa, case sensitive
[10:53] <tanath> vraa, small letters. what? no office menu?
[10:53] <Whack> fermatsltheorem: looks cool, can I make it work with compiz?
[10:53] <fermatsltheorem> Whack: fluxbox is a simple window manager, very geekish for mortals
[10:53] <vraa> under "show list of known applicatons" there is no KOrganizer
[10:53] <xsteelwolf> how do i extract bz2 file
[10:53] <netyire> webpirate: effects -> normalize?
[10:53] <tanath> vraa, 'Apps > Office' isn't there?
[10:53] <webpirate> I manage to convice my wife to switch to ubuntu too and she likes it....I can't say she loves it but she does not miss windows at all
[10:53] <vraa> Under Applications menu at the top, I do not have a Office menu
[10:53] <fermatsltheorem> Whack: i haven't tried, it wouldnt hurt to reun compiz --replace :-p
[10:53] <vraa> i did uninstall openoffice to see what uninstallation was like.
[10:53] <tanath> vraa, in ALT+F2, just start typing it
[10:53] <xsteelwolf> !bz2
[10:53] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:54] <vraa> i did tanath, it didn't show up, is it because I'm using gnome and not KDE?
[10:54] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, if I edit the file, I am not sure which letter to put for the linux partition, now win is on c:
[10:54] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: well maybe it deleted the office menu as well, because it was empty :)
[10:54] <tanath> vraa, that may have done it
[10:54] <tanath> vraa, shouldn't be. my kde apps show up...
[10:54] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why#NTLDR_-_What_is_it_and_why.3F is a gentoo howto, but it should work. look at the section Fooling Windows
[10:54] <vraa> that doesn't explain why i can't access it using ALT+F2 though correct?
[10:54] <xsteelwolf> how do i extract bz2 file
[10:54] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: if you uninstalled a piece of software, you won't be able to start it on a shell
[10:54] <tanath> vraa, some apps don't have categories for the gnome menu though.. perhaps that's one
[10:55] <tanath> vraa, right. it should be executable from there.
[10:55] <vraa> so how would i access this application called KOrganizer?
[10:55] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: which software are you trying to start?
[10:55] <webpirate> and thats another thing....the office is better and Free....well for most people its free..I usually donate about 10bucks to openoffice.org per year....its not much but better than nothing
[10:55] <Whack> yeah, oo is great
[10:55] <tanath> vraa, in ALT+F2, if you type exactly as quoted: 'korganizer' does it work?
[10:55] <Whack> only thing I miss is visio, there isn't realy a good linux alternative for it
[10:55] <vraa> korganizer, i need a replacement for Outlook's email system (Thunderbird), it's contacts system, and calendar system. I think KOrganizer fulfills the latter two of three.
[10:56] <webpirate> So really...except for the games...windows has nothing to offer....
[10:56] <webpirate> for me that is
[10:56] <vraa> oh cool it came up now
[10:56] <webpirate> I use Evolution as my outlook replacement
[10:56] <[nrx] > webpirate: the only issue there is the database engine for open office isn't up the same standards as Access
[10:56] <vraa> this is excellent. how do i make it permanent spot in my "panel"
[10:57] <Whack> yes, but the database app in OO can connect to MySQL servers, which is awesome
[10:57] <tanath> vraa, if it shows in the list in ALT+F2, you should be able to drag it there
[10:57] <[nrx] > vraa: right click on the panel and click on "Add to panel"
[10:57] <webpirate> Yes...Good point NRX....but it will catch up
[10:57] <rpedro> steel_lady: are you still there?
[10:57] <howlingmadhowie> vraa:  the last time someone wanted me to configure thunderbird for a hotmail account i totally failed.
[10:57] <vraa> i have google hosted apps.
[10:57] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: this howto will solve the problem for sure
[10:57] <vraa> so they are simple pop3 servers. nothing more complex than that
[10:57] <[nrx] > webpirate: yeah, it will but by that time, access will have advanced too ;/
[10:57] <steel_lady> rpedro, yes
[10:57] <orkid> Does the default ubuntu installer allow for resizing FAT32 partitions? I can't seem to find the info anywhere.
[10:57] <tanath> pop3 is easy enough in thunderbird
[10:58] <fermatsltheorem> steel_lady: welcome to the intarweb, where men are men, women are women and ladies are FBI agents
[10:58] <skinnypuppy1334> i've resized fat32
[10:58] <[nrx] > orkid: yes, it should run GParted during the installation and it will allow you to resize any FAT32 partition
[10:58] <Whack> well guys, im heading off to bed, i give up on my mouse issue
[10:58] <steel_lady> SefBcsi ok, I just need to see how to record the mbr file to storage that win can read instead to the floppy
[10:58] <webpirate> orkid...download the gparted bootable ISo and use that to resize the partition
[10:58] <Whack> night all
[10:58] <fermatsltheorem> orkid: just take backups befor you muck around iwth paritions
[10:59] <paulowsky> how can i get my bluetooth to work in feisty?
[10:59] <orkid> webpirate: i don't want to use a CD or USB, I will be booting using loadlin (kernel/initrd installer only)
[10:59] <paulowsky> i've got a toshiba satellite
[10:59] <webpirate> orkid: it's usually better to boot off the CD when working with hard drives...
[10:59] <fermatsltheorem> orkid: i second webpirate
[10:59] <orkid> webpirate: I know, but I don't have a burner atm, or a usb key :(
[10:59] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: any media that you can read from windows and write from linux will do the trick.
[11:00] <[nrx] > orkid: fdisk then
[11:00] <orkid> seems from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot like it's possible.
[11:00] <orkid> Resizing Partitions Using the Ubuntu Installer
[11:00] <orkid> :D
[11:00] <orkid> Automatic partitioning
[11:00] <orkid> Choose the First Option (It should be something like: "Resize IDE1 master, partition #1 (hda1) and use freed space"
[11:00] <orkid> so it'll hopefully work..
[11:00] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: you don't need a floppy disk, if you mont the windows partition read-write under lin.
[11:00] <webpirate> hmm....well as lond as you are not trying to resize the partion you are booting from and make sure it's unmunted
[11:00] <fermatsltheorem> orkid: fdisk is the light saber, use it prudently
[11:00] <nnutter> will upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy-T5 result in "orphaned" packages? Like if the old ubuntu-desktop hypothetically included rhythmbox while the new one included banshee, would both be installed?
[11:00] <orkid> fdisk will not resize an existing file system, which i need (resize FAT32)
[11:00] <tanath> nnutter, if it does, running aptitude will let you know
[11:01] <luigi> !de
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[11:01] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: you just need to copy somehow the working linux boot sector to a file in c:
[11:01] <fermatsltheorem> wilkommen sie bitte!
[11:01] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, I have FAT32 shared between systems. BTW 'sef' means 'the boss' in croatian
[11:01] <fermatsltheorem> springsteen sef!
[11:02] <[nrx] > lol
[11:02] <webpirate> I would seriously wait until you can make a bootable disk...
[11:02] <webpirate> I just am paranoid I guess
[11:02] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: this is a character from South Park. he is the black cook
[11:02] <tanath> nnutter, i upgraded to gutsy, and it didn't want me to get rid of anything i wanted
[11:02] <fermatsltheorem> webpirate: the geek who waits till his love makes a boot disk! while real people wait till the lady get dressed up
[11:02] <paulowsky> how's that? isnt gutsy still unstable?
[11:03] <tanath> nnutter, and aptitude let me know what packages were no longer required (orphaned)
[11:03] <fermatsltheorem> paulowsky: it is unstable
[11:03] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: then do not copy to a floppy. just copy on that partition, then reboot and copy to c: under win.
[11:03] <tanath> paulowsky, so?
[11:03] <tanath> paulowsky, stable enough for me
[11:03] <tanath> paulowsky, works great for me
[11:03] <brunner> is there any linux software that will scan through channels and display snapshots of content like the old hauppauge software for windows did?
[11:03] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: Sef = Chef = (Master-cook?)
[11:04] <fermatsltheorem> Sef=serf = common peasent
[11:04] <SefBacsi> :)
[11:04] <tanath> paulowsky, i just changed my repos to gutsy and did a dist-upgrade
[11:04] <CountX> can someone help me with gutsy?
[11:04] <nnutter> tanath: so aptitude keeps track of file that were installed specifically versus installed by dependency?
[11:04] <tanath> nnutter, yep
[11:04] <dgjones> !gutsy | CountX
[11:04] <vraa> how well is Ubuntu's compatibility with "popular" (according to newegg.com) hardware? sufficient to be stable?
[11:04] <ubotu> CountX: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <[nrx] > !gutsy
[11:05] <SefBacsi> senf=mustard=bastard=retard?
[11:05] <[nrx] > damn, too fast ;p
[11:05] <[nrx] > !ohmy | SefBacsi
[11:05] <ubotu> SefBacsi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:05] <tanath> nnutter, one of the reasons it has better dependency resolution than apt-get
[11:05] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[11:05] <SefBacsi> sry
[11:05] <webpirate> well I guess I am just paranoid because I actually use my linux box as my main computer...where most people just play around with linux and boot into windows for thier serious stuff
[11:05] <nnutter> tanath: ok thank you for the info :-)
[11:05] <tanath> nnutter, np
[11:05] <howlingmadhowie> (er musste halt seinen senf dazu gegen)
[11:06] <SefBacsi> :)
[11:06] <fermatsltheorem> howlingmadhowie: errr..
[11:06] <clip> where do i get php4, when apt-get doenst work
[11:06] <webpirate> How long do I have to be without windows before I am a windows noob again?
[11:06] <fermatsltheorem> clip: didya search for php4 in synaptic
[11:06] <[nrx] > webpirate: it's a bit like riding a bike, isn't it? Once infected, you're never clean? hehe
[11:06] <Crozar> webpirate you theyr :(
[11:06] <clip> naw
[11:06] <tanath> webpirate, paranoid for what?
[11:07] <shwouchk> how do I remove a script from running at boot? (an init.d script)
[11:07] <fermatsltheorem> webpirate:
[11:07] <webpirate> he he he.....like aids.....damn...I got the aids......
[11:07] <Crozar> soon il be ur place
[11:07] <Crozar> you get deeds for doing this
[11:07] <[nrx] > shwouchk: apt-get install rcconf
[11:07] <tanath> shwouchk, Sys > Admin > Boot-up manager?
[11:07] <webpirate> Whats up Crozar...
[11:07] <Crozar> it worked :D
[11:08] <shwouchk> tanath: via console...
[11:08] <webpirate> the code I send you worked?
[11:08] <shwouchk> [nrx] : its a shell tool I hope?
[11:08] <paulowsky> sorry for the delay. tanath. and it doesn't work well? wat did u need to get rid of?
[11:08] <Irreducibilis> My ubuntu iso is NOT on my windows box
[11:08] <hironakamura> Hi, I need help with madwifi, the package madwifi-tools does actually install the drivers?
[11:08] <[nrx] > shwouchk: yes, a very good on
[11:08] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, what exactly should I put in thos command:dd if=/dev/hda2 of=grub.mbr bs=512 count=1
[11:08] <[nrx] > one*
[11:08] <Crozar> my laptop screen but with many many sideeffects that when 3d effects are on the terminal shows white screen and all windows dont have the bar in the top where u can X maximize or Minmize and all shrinks ect..
[11:08] <shwouchk> [nrx] : great, thanks
[11:08] <[nrx] > shwouchk: no problem. Once installed, run it with sudo rcconf
[11:08] <Crozar> the windows are shrinked mode... the files each i open
[11:08] <tanath> paulowsky, sorry?
[11:09] <asc> Is there a way to determine which libraries an ELF binary needs?
[11:09] <tanath> paulowsky, what doesn't work well?
[11:09] <fermatsltheorem> dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda
[11:09] <howlingmadhowie> steel_lady: that will totally write over your grub.mbr
[11:09] <paulowsky> doesn't matter, u were sayin?
[11:09] <BernieMac> Anyone know why my audio files suddenly quit working in the Listen player?
[11:09] <webpirate> Crozar>> make sure you have the beryl themes installed....
[11:09] <vraa> is there a way to get rid of the bloated default interface and replace it with a more blue theme?
[11:09] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: it depends. which part. contains the linux /boot?
[11:09] <vraa> a less waste spacer theme?
[11:09] <Crozar> oh
[11:09] <Crozar> ok i will
[11:09] <tanath> paulowsky, moving to gutsy? there were some packages that were replaced and such, so had to remove old ones, but nothing i wanted had to go
[11:10] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: you mean get rid of gnome? there are a number of window managers to choose from
[11:10] <tanath> paulowsky, i dunno, what was i saying? :P
[11:10] <steel_lady> <SefBacsi it sait sda5
[11:10] <webpirate> then select the beryl windows manager from the beryl-settings
[11:10] <Crozar> webpirate , last but not least when laptop screen worked its not full screen its using the middle side of the laptop
[11:10] <clip> is there a good place to look for synaptic packages
[11:10] <tanath> webpirate, beryl is dead
[11:10] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: you could also install a new theme for gnome, if you just want to get rid of the brown :)
[11:10] <fermatsltheorem> clip :err...in synaptic
[11:10] <clip> how?
[11:10] <tanath> compiz fusion is better
[11:10] <fermatsltheorem> clip: seach menu
[11:10] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  so it is the first logical part. from the extended?
[11:10] <steel_lady> howlingmadhowie I can not boot ubuntu and I am trying to do a copy of grub to put it into win bootloader
[11:11] <Crozar> and u remmember this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- i dont know what i did in this :( im scared my screen will be damaged soon
[11:11] <vraa> it's not the brown that looks bad, it's just the icons are much too large, but they dont convey enough information
[11:11] <webpirate> Crozar>> I am not sure about that problem...sometimes the laptop screens are limited to 1024x768
[11:11] <vraa> for example, the new button is about twice the size it should be
[11:11] <[nrx] > konquerer just locked up :o
[11:11] <paulowsky> can't say wat that is. a friend of mine had the same problem. but he got it fixed.
[11:11] <tanath> Crozar, that can't do any permanent damage
[11:11] <paulowsky> tanath. i'll ask how now
[11:11] <clip> fermatsltheorem: i don't get it, how do i get to the search menu
[11:11] <Crozar> then how to reset xserver-org
[11:11] <fermatsltheorem> clip: hit ctrl+f
[11:11] <howlingmadhowie> steel_lady: oh, that's an interesting question, what dd if=/dev/hda2 of=grub.mbr does in this case
[11:11] <webpirate> Crozar>> well onlt that the pixels on the outside of the screen won't be used and over time you will burn in
[11:11] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, extended is sda2,  ubuntu sda5 swap 6 and linux work 7
[11:11] <shwouchk> [nrx] : eek... it works with ncurses but for some reason it spits many bad chars
[11:11] <tanath> paulowsky, sorry?
[11:12] <Myrtti> log out from gnome/kde and press ctrl-alt-backspace on login screen
[11:12] <Crozar> webpirate i will reset xserver org then il paste the command lines for Section options u gave me
[11:12] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar: there is a long command in xorg.conf comments
[11:12] <tanath> paulowsky, did i miss something?
[11:12] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: dd if=/dev/sda5 of=~/Desktop/grub.mbr bs=512 count=1
[11:12] <webpirate> ok
[11:12] <Crozar>  xserver-org is xorg.conf??
[11:12] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: which new button? (i haven't been paying attention)
[11:12] <paulowsky> tanath.nope
[11:12] <[nrx] > shwouchk: might be better to just use the bootup manager
[11:12] <tanath> paulowsky, then what are you talking about? lol
[11:12] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar: was that to me?
[11:13] <vraa> howlingmadhowie, i'm using evolution (a program for mail, calendar, contacts) right now.
[11:13] <clip> fermatsltheorem: but that doesn't search the internet
[11:13] <webpirate> Crozarr>> I think I remember I had the same problem you have....I think it's an ubuntu 7.04 thing.....I had to keep 6.10 because the screen was just in the miggle
[11:13] <webpirate> miggle = middle
[11:13] <fermatsltheorem> clip: what do you want to find
[11:13] <Crozar> yes please if you can answer
[11:13] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: evolution's okay. just switch off automatic html rendering.
[11:13] <webpirate> so on my laptop I just install ubuntu 6.10
[11:13] <tanath> paulowsky, hard to keep track of everything
[11:13] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar: xserver config can be reset with the command given in xorg.conf commetns
[11:13] <Crozar> but my laptop is 17 inch screen webpirate any ways :/ i use 1280 in win
[11:13] <webpirate> not 7.04
[11:13] <shwouchk> [nrx] : well, I managed to use it to do w/e I needed... I just thought you might know what was up with ncurses... anyway, what is that?
 I can not find ~ there because my keyboard is messed up :-O
[11:13] <clip> fermatsltheorem: nothing, i'm looking for php4
[11:13] <webpirate> Crozar>> I see...
[11:13] <[nrx] > !ncurses
[11:13] <webpirate> then I am not sure...sorry
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ncurses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar: 17 inches! somebody is insecure
[11:14] <[nrx] > ;o
[11:14] <Crozar> insecure?
[11:14] <Crozar> will it blow up :S
[11:14] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar: ;-)
[11:14] <paulowsky> tanath.i thought u asked a question. didnt u?
[11:14] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: then /home/<your loginname>/Desktop
[11:14] <tanath> paulowsky, what question?
[11:14] <webpirate> Well it won't blow up but you will get burn-in on the middle of the screen
[11:14] <paulowsky> forget it then, my mistake
[11:14] <tanath> paulowsky, i thought you asked me about upgrading to gutsy?
[11:14] <Crozar> im afraid becauase with CRT screen is flickering sometimes and with laptop it wont flick but il get the kaboom a day or later on the heat status
[11:14] <[nrx] > shwouchk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses
[11:14] <[nrx] > :)
[11:14] <clip> fermatsltheorem: nothing, i'm looking for php4
[11:14] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and probably you need to enter sudo before the command if use ubuntu
[11:14] <paulowsky> i get it
[11:15] <[nrx] > shwouchk: it's safe to ignore the garble it came out with though
[11:15] <shwouchk> [nrx] : I meant what is the bootup manager
[11:15] <SkoZombie> Anyone know why evolution in feisty doesn't support regexps in filters/searches ?
[11:15] <webpirate> You may have to try ubuntu 6.10..
[11:15] <[nrx] > shwouchk: it's basically just a graphical version of rcconf with some other features
[11:15] <Crozar> its old laptop BTW , toshiba 1955 s801
[11:15] <fermatsltheorem> clip: dude, search for php4 in synaptic
[11:15] <SkoZombie> It used to many moons ago when i checked, now I actually need them!
[11:15] <tanath> SkoZombie, 'cause it's evil. get rid of it :P
[11:15] <shwouchk> [nrx] : well, it's a headless server, so no go there
[11:15] <SkoZombie> tanath: evolution or regexps?
[11:16] <clip> fermatsltheorem: i never really used synaptic, so i don't know how ^^
[11:16] <fermatsltheorem> SkoZombie: if you are smart enough to use regex, you would be using mutt!
[11:16] <webpirate> crozar>> YES!! mine too......we are on the same page....if you keep your xorg.conf and then install 6.10 it will work..
[11:16] <tanath> SkoZombie, evolution :P
[11:16] <tanath> SkoZombie, regex is sweet
[11:16] <fermatsltheorem> system->admin->synaptic
[11:16] <SkoZombie> I'm just lazy tis all ;)
[11:16] <webpirate> I got beryl working on my laptop and everything...opengl too
[11:16] <Crozar> webpirate ur using toshiba 1955?
[11:16] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: if you have harddrive space, you can install some other window managers and try them out.
[11:16] <tanath> webpirate, you know beryl is dead, right?
[11:16] <webpirate> Toshiba 2410 with 15inch and Nvidia go 440 16megs ram
[11:16] <vraa> are you fond of others besides gnome?
[11:16] <tanath> webpirate, compiz fusion FTW
[11:16] <SkoZombie> I might have to look around tho, cause this lack of regexp to filter spam and stuff is driving me nuts
[11:17] <Crozar> ubuntu 6.10? why i thou ght the higher the better version improved added features? or it goes diffrent with linux
[11:17] <vraa> it seems as if this argument of window managers is a moot point
[11:17] <tanath> SkoZombie, what about spam assassin, or whatever it's called?
[11:17] <fermatsltheorem> vraa: just like emacs vs vi, [nrx]  would beg to differ
[11:17] <webpirate> Crozar>> I am not sure why but I tried everything and only ubuntu 6.10 worked.. with my LCD
[11:17] <SkoZombie> yeah, I was getting about 30% false positives
[11:17] <tanath> bah, that's different
[11:18] <Crozar> u mean working great? full screen
[11:18] <[nrx] > !
[11:18] <webpirate> but 6.10 is still very very good..
[11:18] <tanath> compiz fusion is the successor to beryl, and is superior
[11:18] <webpirate> Yes working perfect..
[11:18] <[nrx] > right.
[11:18] <webpirate> even DVD playback is accelerated
[11:18] <vraa> because i'm using gnome, can that be attributed to the fact that Evolution is not showing me reminder windows of my tasks?
[11:18] <Tarkus> hey, whats the best way to use/install emerald with compiz-fusion?
[11:18] <Crozar> il get it :) and synoptics is theyr also ? so anythign can be downloaded like in 7
[11:18] <webpirate> uses 2% CPU when watching DVD's
[11:18] <fermatsltheorem> emacs - the only editor you need
[11:18] <[nrx] > nano.
[11:18] <SkoZombie> VI!
[11:18] <webpirate> Yes...everything is the samy synaptic and all that
[11:18] <tanath> vim!
[11:18] <[nrx] > :O
[11:19] <tanath> :P
[11:19] <tanath> nano
[11:19] <steel_lady> SefBacsi seems to have copied, now I have to see how to put it into ini
[11:19] <tanath> bah, gedit :D
[11:19] <[nrx] > tanath: lol
[11:19] <[nrx] > wine + notepad!
[11:19] <clip> somehow i don't got the php4 package in synaptic
[11:19] <tanath> :O
[11:19] <[nrx] > lol!
[11:19] <tanath> gedit owns notepad
[11:19] <SkoZombie> cat/tail/head/grep/tr !
[11:19] <fermatsltheorem> nano - for people with similar sized organs
[11:19] <webpirate> Crozar>> remember that nvidia like XV for movie playback
[11:19] <Crozar> webpirate last night i was talking to tvrg and i did all soloutions for trying with default ubuntu status towards my CRT and laptop screen i found out that LCD works fine with nv in drivers but not nvidia , however no 3d effects will run but u will get ur fullscreen
[11:19] <tanath> sed :P
[11:19] <[nrx] > emacs > for people with no organs
[11:19] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: i started off with kde, now i use gnome a lot (or one of the fluxbox line if i'm on old hardware). basically i find a window manager just shouldn't get in the way
[11:19] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: okay then. do it. it should be the same as in the tutorial
[11:19] <[nrx] > sed rwaks
[11:20] <[nrx] > anyway, i need to go pay the rent
[11:20] <fermatsltheorem> real geeks cat to devices
[11:20] <[nrx] > back in a bit.
[11:20] <Crozar> when getting 6.10 must i format again? or just install? it wil degrade
[11:20] <tanath> dunno if you can downgrade a whole distro...
[11:20] <webpirate> crozar>>yes mine too....but I wanted Opengl and the screensavers so I spent lots of time to get my xorg.conf perfect in ubuntu 6.10....then 7.04 came out and it would not work so I just went back to 6.10
[11:20] <tanath> wouldn't recommend it
[11:21] <Crozar> thank you
[11:21] <webpirate> Crozar>> you should really format again
[11:21] <Crozar> web pirate hope the 8th release will have all this tuned up
[11:21] <SkoZombie> tanath: any ideas who i could bitch to so they'd put regexp's back in evolution? I mean why LOSE features?
[11:21] <tanath> all what?
[11:21] <webpirate> Crozar>> I am off to bed now but if you are here tomorrow I can help you more...
[11:22] <Crozar> wait
[11:22] <vraa> KDE seems to be more business oriented than Gnome
[11:22] <tanath> SkoZombie, are you sure they had it before?
[11:22] <webpirate> I can send you my complete sections of my xorg.conf
[11:22] <Crozar> last thing , now how can i get xorg.conf when i changed it
[11:22] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: oh, reminder windows should be popping up. just a second i'll try that out on my evolution here
[11:22] <tanath> SkoZombie, maybe there's a configuration option for it
[11:22] <SkoZombie> tanath: good point, i'll look around
[11:22] <tanath> SkoZombie, or a plugin that got removed
[11:22] <webpirate> Crozar>> what do you mean?
[11:22] <vraa> howlingmadhowie, i wasn't having reminder windows come up with a 0second length appointment in my calendar
[11:22] <Crozar> i fuddled around xserver-org  and i think my xorg.conf is destroyed now
[11:22] <vraa> i am trying a 30 minute length right now
[11:22] <steel_lady> Vista reminds me of ubuntu, it asks for permission all the time
[11:22] <tanath> SkoZombie, if not, maybe check whether they're supposed to be there. if so, file a bug report maybe (launchpad.net)
[11:23] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: wht kinda permission?
[11:23] <fermatsltheorem> Crozar:  just run the command available in xorg.conf comments you will get back stuff
[11:23] <tanath> Crozar, you can always delete it
[11:23] <webpirate> Crozar>> don't worry about it...you are going to format anyway and I will send you a working xorg.conf file..
[11:23] <vraa> it was supposed to pop up an alert 2 minutes before the scheduled time, nothing came up
[11:23] <Crozar> u gave me commands to put in the xorg.conf the section device but i think i must reset xorg.conf then put in the commands again
[11:23] <Crozar> thank you
[11:23] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: i'm trying one too. let's see what happens :)
[11:23] <tanath> Crozar, well, better to rename it, to have a backup
[11:23] <Crozar> 1955 s801 toshiba? its just amazing i thought im the only one
[11:24] <Crozar> k
[11:24] <webpirate> crosar>> send me an email and I will send you the xorg.conf file
[11:24] <SkoZombie> tanath: cool, just wasn't sure if it might be an "ubuntu, dumbing things down so that GWBush can use linux" type thing or not
[11:24] <tanath> lol
[11:24] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, for everything I want to copy to system partition, to install anything, to give permission to programs to do particular actions... seems that they are taking advice from linux now :)
[11:24] <Crozar> il see u here l8er =)
[11:24] <Crozar> thanks alot webpirate
[11:24] <tanath> SkoZombie, personally i dislike evolution.
[11:24] <webpirate> Crozar>> my email is webpirate@hotmail.com
[11:24] <fermatsltheorem> tanath: you creationist!!
[11:24] <tanath> SkoZombie, but then, i didn't know it could do regex
[11:25] <Crozar> u dont go in msn =/
[11:25] <_dennis_> how can I easly check the boot device number of my windows XP partition?
[11:25] <webpirate> yes....you can add me
[11:25] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: my reminder worked :)
[11:25] <Crozar> thanks
[11:25] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I still don't see the ini file
[11:25] <Crozar> im nick
[11:25] <tanath> fermatsltheorem, lol. i'm the last person who'd be called a creationist :P
[11:25] <webpirate> I am Rick......
[11:25] <webpirate> :)
[11:25] <fermatsltheorem> _dennis_: if it is the first partition = 0
[11:25] <tanath> fermatsltheorem, quite the opposite :D
[11:25] <_dennis_> ok thanks fermatsltheorem
[11:25] <SkoZombie> tanath: you used to be able to do all sorts of cool stuff, like pipe messages through other programs etc
[11:25] <vraa> that's weird. did you make any special settings? i am trying KOrganizer right now since Evolution didn't work for me.
[11:26] <fermatsltheorem> _dennis_: if i tis second =1, and so on
[11:26] <hoth676> hi, what tool can I use to make a .mov movie into a more compact .mpg format ?
[11:26] <fermatsltheorem> _dennis_: first device =hd0 etc
[11:26] <tanath> SkoZombie, well, you might want to check the Evolution website for features
[11:26] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/10/13/Using-Vista_2700_s-Boot-Manager-to-Boot-Linux-and-Dual-Booting-with-BitLocker-Protection-with-TPM-Support.aspx read this. it should help you
[11:26] <tanath> fermatsltheorem, you know there's a christian version of ubuntu?
[11:27] <fermatsltheorem> hoth676: closed formats, getting such a tool for linux, i aint very sure
[11:27] <Crozar> i adde u
[11:27] <fermatsltheorem> tanath: wut!
[11:27] <Black_Cat> hello. i'm developing my website under linux so i need to test rendering in 3 major browsers. i've got opera and firefox, but what about IE? i know about wine & virtual machines, but maybe there is more straightforward way? maybe some other browser which uses the same engine as IE does?
[11:27] <tanath> fermatsltheorem, seriously. christian ubuntu, with all the bible stuff & everything
[11:27] <rob> Black_Cat, vmware server + windows
[11:27] <howlingmadhowie> hoth676: transcode could do that, but the command line options are quite daunting
[11:27] <fermatsltheorem> tanath: jeebus!
[11:28] <tanath> fermatsltheorem, indeed, lol
[11:28] <fermatsltheorem> tanath: ask them to lay off from the technology of the heathens
[11:28] <tanath> heh
[11:28] <dgjones> !ies4linux | Black_Cat
[11:28] <ubotu> Black_Cat: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[11:28] <howlingmadhowie> vraa: i just added an entry to the calender, added an alarm to it and configured the alarm to go off really soon :)
[11:28] <SkoZombie> tanath: documentation on the site (branded by novell) says it does *shrugs* guess it's one of those features that only nerds like me want
[11:29] <rob> eww ies4linux :p
[11:29] <vraa> man that's weird i can't even get korganizer's reminder to pop up
[11:29] <DexterF> hi
[11:29] <hoth676> howlingmadhowie: transcode, thx. Ok' I'll check that... Any format more compact that .mov would do...
[11:29] <tanath> SkoZombie, i wasn't aware of gnome actually removing features, only making them more out of the way...
[11:29] <DexterF> where do I adjust font hinting?
[11:29] <hawk_au> is there any pre-configured citrix (ica) clients for ubuntu? that you can install using synaptic or apt-get?
[11:29] <tanath> SkoZombie, i thought they just changed the interfaces around
[11:29] <SkoZombie> I'll keep searching on if there's a flag somewhere or some such
[11:29] <tanath> SkoZombie, you might try getting a .deb of evolution from the official website and running that instead of the one from the repos
[11:30] <fermatsltheorem> arwright, catchya folks later.
[11:30] <SkoZombie> yeah that was the next step :)
[11:30] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: microsoft has quite a few (bad)surprises with each new windows. so pls read the howto that i pasted ^ gl :)
[11:30] <tanath> SkoZombie, be sure to complain about the feature removal :P
[11:30] <mosno> i'm getting poor performance with Beryl on my NVIDIA 8600M GS card (Feisty, vanilla 2.6.22.3 kernel, upstream NVIDIA GLX module 100.14.11), like there's strange pauses in the animation. The system is pretty quick (Santa Rosa laptop), how can i speed up 3D in X?
[11:30] <mosno> i'm looking through the nvidia readme now
[11:31] <SkoZombie> tanath: thats why i'm in here, in case it was a compile option an ubuntu person disabled ;)
[11:31] <tanath> why is everyone still using beryl?
[11:31] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I am reading
[11:31] <tanath> SkoZombie, i believe the devs hang out in a different channel
[11:31] <mosno> tanath: because it's packaged in Feisty
[11:32] <tanath> mosno, oh yeah. well, beryl is dead. has been succeeded by compiz fusion
[11:32] <mosno> yea i know.
[11:32] <mosno> ps. it's still supported upstream
[11:32] <tanath> mosno, you might find it runs better
[11:32] <mosno> nah with compiz the window borders disappear
[11:32] <mosno> and no they both run crap
[11:32] <tanath> mosno, not on gutsy :D
[11:32] <tanath> i find CF is better and more stable
[11:32] <mosno> bah im on feisty, i can't be bothered dealing with deps breakage :)
[11:33] <tanath> mosno, what breakage? :)
[11:33] <mosno> gutsy...?
[11:33] <shriphani> what can I use to communicate with my HP 50g ?
[11:33] <tanath> mosno, i changed my repos to gutsy and did a dist-upgrade. had few probs, and everything's great
[11:33] <mosno> a hammer
[11:33] <tanath> running CF too
[11:33] <rob> I wouldn't recommend upgrading to gusty just yet, there are problems still
[11:33] <mosno> hrmm.
[11:34] <shriphani> mosno: ?
[11:34] <rob> I'm running it here
[11:34] <tanath> rob, such as?
[11:34] <rob> tanath, my sudo is broken for one
[11:34] <mosno> shriphani: bad joke
[11:34] <tanath> rob, weird. mine is fine
[11:34] <rob> tanath, yes, as is mine on another system
[11:34] <mosno> no one should recommend non-stable ubuntus ever :\
[11:34] <shriphani> yeah... well i am on kubuntu atm. There is something called hptalk and it needs gtk headers.... damn..
[11:35] <rob> tanath, there are a couple of broken packages I have ran into too
[11:35] <tanath> mosno, technically, i didn't :P i recommended CF, which you can get running on feisty i believe
[11:35] <mosno> hrm. i think the problem is with my shitty video card
[11:35] <tanath> rob, i ran into one, but got that fixed pretty quickly (in the repos)
[11:35] <mosno> maybe the shared memory of it
[11:35] <rob> tanath, basically its not ready yet
[11:35] <tanath> rob, didn't say it was. just that i'm running it without problems
[11:35] <mosno> but given crusty old intel graphics can do compiz better than this, then i'm guessing its not the card but my software
[11:35] <TwinX> mosno<->  could you pastebin your xorg.conf
[11:36] <rob> tanath, yes, bugs get reported things get fixed, but the bugs are still being weeded out
[11:36] <steel_lady> SafBacsi I am lost in these instructions, in this line: bcdedit /create /d GRUB /application BOOTSECTOR
[11:36] <tanath> rob, release is only a month away. last couple releases i've upgraded two months early without much difficulties
[11:36] <mosno> TwinX: http://pastebin.com/m538059a4
[11:37] <TwinX> k
[11:37] <rob> mosno, the only thing I can offer is that laptops generally have poor mobile graphics cards even if they are Nvidia/Ati
[11:37] <mosno> :(
[11:37] <tanath> rob, so i'm comfortable with upgrading early
[11:37] <mosno> i shoulda just got the GMA950
[11:37] <mosno> i've seen it run smoother than this with my own eyes
[11:37] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: you shold copy paste it to a terminal with Administrator privileges
[11:37] <mosno> stupid non-free drivers *kicks nvidia*
[11:37] <tanath> mosno, do you have direct rendering?
[11:37] <tanath> mosno, i'm guessing not
[11:37] <TwinX> mosno i'll send u the right config hold on
[11:37] <mosno> tanath: i'd say i do given 3D is working
[11:38] <rob> tanath, that's fine but I wouldn't mention it in here (I have too on non-business PCs I have)
[11:38] <LordMetroid> alp!
[11:38] <LordMetroid> Hjalp!
[11:38] <mosno> TwinX: thanks
[11:38] <tanath> rob, nothing wrong with the truth
[11:38] <LordMetroid> Min fonsterhanterare i Unixet dog... Helt svart blev det.
[11:38] <steel_lady> SefBacsi it does not work
[11:38] <LordMetroid> Vad ska jag gora nu?
[11:38] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: what does it say?
[11:38] <LordMetroid> sorry... Wrong windows
[11:39] <tanath> mosno, run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct'
[11:39] <mosno> TwinX: it also is slow on my old config http://pastebin.com/m299ec724
[11:39] <mosno> tanath: direct rendering: Yes
[11:40] <vraa> i figured it out, the time zones were set up incorrectly
[11:40] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, it does not understand the command. when I put only bcdedit it gives me the data for win, that long ID number. the same one I need for linux, to read it from this GRUB file
[11:40] <mosno> 3D works, but my window manager has annoying delays sometimes, like when minimising/restoring... but not when wobbling
[11:40] <vraa> is there a way to pop up the reminders in a format that outlook does them (lists them in a window so you can have multiple reminders stack up)
[11:40] <steel_lady> SefBacsi wait,  till I try something
[11:40] <TwinX> mosno<-> http://pastebin.com/d23224a4c
[11:41] <tanath> mosno, i've found some of the animations are buggy. i'd turn off the animations plugin. often that's what the prob is with beryl. some plugin acting up
[11:41] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: ok
[11:41] <tanath> mosno, i had memory leaks with beryl too, where it'd lock up after running too long, sometimes
[11:42] <TwinX> mosno also set in Beryl Manager the Sync to Vblank OFF
[11:42] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, no, it deffinitely does not work. actually I don't understand what did they want to say with this inside that command in instructions
[11:42] <mosno> tanath: will try in a sec
[11:43] <mosno> TwinX: thanks for the config, testing now, brb
[11:44] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: did you started the terminal as administrator?
[11:44] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i'm looking now the options of this command
[11:45] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i'm pretty sure if you edit the boot.ini manually it'll have the same effect
[11:45] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, yes of course. I have searched the manual and there is the command /create but I can't read anything about the command /application
[11:46] <steel_lady> SafBacsi, seems that vista doesn't use boot.ini. If I knew which one it uses, I could do it
[11:47] <empemp> hi
[11:47] <Griswold_> hey
[11:47] <empemp> is there any updated drivers for the 855 integrated intel graphic controller?
[11:47] <empemp> or a command for checking which graphic driver that is installed?
[11:48] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/08d64d13-4f45-4a05-bd86-c99211a93dd91033.mspx?mfr=true this is another thing to read
[11:49] <mosno> hrm, well things seem quicker, but the beryl anims still suck. i might just see if i can quickly backport Gutsy's compiz over to this Feisty..
[11:49] <empemp> not so smooth compz experience with the 855 intel chip
[11:52] <empemp> anyone have the 855 intel chip?
[11:53] <fivetwentysix_> What's a good audio format converter; in my case, flac to mp3.
[11:54] <TwinX> mosno try Beryl Settings Manager >> Texture Filter  "Fast"
[11:54] <TwinX> fivetwentysix_<->  mencoder
[11:54] <Lyv> Hello =)
[11:55] <fivetwentysix_> twinx: isn't that for movies?
[11:55] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, they tell everywhere that this is to edit the info that was stored before in boot.ini. where do they store it now, I can not find... surely it can be edited by hand
[11:55] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make Listen music player use a different visualisation (ie not GOON)?
[11:55] <TwinX> !flac
[11:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:56] <fivetwentysix_> Sigh, i was asking what program was good to convert flac to mp3.
[11:56] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make conky not open in a window when I run it?
[11:56] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i dunno. i said before i didn't used vista
[11:57] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i'll search a bit
[11:57] <kraut> moin
[11:57] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i'll priv. chat ya, 'cos it's easy 4 me. k?
[11:57] <AndrewB> How do I make a comment on a wiki page? What is the syntax again.
[11:58] <tanath> fivetwentysix_, i think lame will do the job
[11:58] <[nrx] > pervert.
[11:58] <Studiosus> How can I boot into text mode and run fsck?
[11:59] <tanath> Studiosus, at the grub menu when it first boots, choose recovery mode
[11:59] <Studiosus> tanath and then
[11:59] <Studiosus> ?
[11:59] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I don't know if you see me there
[11:59] <tanath> Studiosus, then you'll go to a console, and you can fsck
[11:59] <Studiosus> tanath, btw, I can't see grub menu at boot time, how can I enable menu?
[12:00] <erUSUL> Studiosus: it is better to use a liveCD to run fsck becouse filesystems must be unmounted
[12:00] <Studiosus> ok
[12:00] <tanath> Studiosus, after the initial POST screen, when it frist boots off the hard drive, it should be the first thing you see (before the Ubuntu splash screen)
[12:00] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make Listen music player use a different visualisation (ie not GOON)?
[12:01] <tanath> Studiosus, but yeh, if you have a livecd, use that
[12:01] <Steven_> hi, during the install, when it asks for the disk to install grub, how can i know to wich device is referred hd0?
[12:01] <Steven_> is tehre any way to convert devices to grub ones?
[12:01] <tanath> Steven_, hd0 is the first hard drive
[12:01] <tanath> Steven_, hd0,0 is disk one partition 1
[12:02] <tanath> Steven_, hd0,1 is disk 1 partition 2, etc
[12:02] <empemp> how to check which driver is working for the graphic card?
[12:02] <Steven_> tanath: yes i now but drives are mapped differently between live and installed system
[12:02] <Steven_> tanath: is there any way to know the correpsonding device?
[12:02] <susscorfa> ls
[12:02] <nephish> someone recommend a good CLI email client, i only need it to read cron messages to my remote server.
[12:02] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: ehh well: boot.ini is gone in vista
[12:02] <Studiosus> tanath I can't see boot menu - there are kernel messages immediately after start. maybe there is some key I can press to see menu?
[12:03] <susscorfa> nephish: mutt of pine
[12:03] <tanath> Steven_, check your fstab to see if your installed system does things differently, and how so
[12:03] <tanath> Steven_, /etc/fstab
[12:03] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: you can't edit it manually
[12:03] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I am telling you that all the time
[12:03] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: :)
[12:03] <tanath> Studiosus, before the kernel messages there should be the grub menu
[12:03] <nephish> susscorfa, which do you use?
[12:03] <susscorfa> none but these are the most used ones
[12:03] <tanath> Studiosus, unless you chose not to install grub during the initial installation
[12:04] <Steven_> tanath: i'm helping a friend to install ubuntu, he want grub to be placed on the disk where he's installing
[12:04] <susscorfa> most people i know use mutt
[12:04] <nephish> susscorfa, thanks will check em out
[12:04] <tanath> Steven_, it should do that by default
[12:04] <Steven_> tanath: the order of disks changes from live to the system when ide and sata drives are present (it happened to me)
[12:05] <tanath> Steven_, er, unless the one he's installing to is different from the default boot device, but there should be the option
[12:05] <Steven_> tanath: no he already tried, grup was placed on the BOOT hd, that is not the hd where he's installing ubuntu
[12:06] <Steven_> tanath: tehre is only a textbox...
[12:06] <tanath> Steven_, yeh. grub and linux naming conventions aren't too hard to puzzle out. hda1 is disk 1 partition 1, and goes hdb1 for next disk & hda2 for next partition, etc...
[12:06] <sauvin> I thought hda1 was (0,0)...?
[12:06] <tanath> Steven_, with grub it's (hd0,0) for disk 1, partition 1, and hd1,0 for 2nd disk & first partition. etc
[12:07] <tanath> sauvin, that's waht i said
[12:07] <sauvin> You didn't make it clear the enumeration was zero-based.
[12:07] <empemp> i can't get the cube cap on the bottom to change background
[12:07] <tanath> it's just that with grub it starts at 0
[12:07] <empemp> any ideas?
[12:07] <sauvin> cube cap?
[12:08] <Steven_> tanath: i know, but i don't know what PHISICAL disk, for ex, hd1 refers to, if i can have the device name then i could check
[12:08] <tanath> Steven_, there is no hd1. must be hd<letter><and/or_number>
[12:09] <Steven_> tanath: i'm talking of grub
[12:09] <tanath> Steven_, in the booted system you should be able to find out which device is which, remember which device it is, and use that info
[12:09] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, I have more and more impressions that the days when an uneducated win user was able to "$&&/ the system are gone. Apart from giving permissions, you ahve to learn vista line commands
[12:09] <MeRodent> empemp, beryl or compiz?
[12:09] <tanath> Steven_, i just told you how devices are represented in both linux & grub
[12:09] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make Listen music player use a different visualisation (ie not GOON)?
[12:09] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make conky not open in a window when I run it?
[12:10] <ari_stress> what is conky?
[12:10] <poeticrpm> a program that lists a variety of information on your desktop
[12:10] <rob> Steven_, just go to /proc/ide and cat the hdX/model file
[12:10] <Steven_> tnx rob
[12:10] <tanath> Lyv, listen is pretty good, though i don't know how to change it's look. nevertheless, i've found amarok is better. you might want to give it a try
[12:11] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: try this. what does it say? bcdedit /enum all /v
[12:11] <tanath> rob, what if you don't have a /proc/ide ? :P
[12:11] <poeticrpm> conky can monitor a number of things- Anything from cpu core usage to the weather in your area, to a newsfeed or what song is playing in Amarok/rythmbox
[12:12] <poeticrpm> I mainly use it for system monitoring
[12:12] <[nrx] > sounds like a nice program
[12:12] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: this is the right way. a good windows is as close as possible to a unixlike os.
[12:12] <poeticrpm> very nice
[12:12] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: ;)
[12:12] <jo_> hi
[12:12] <poeticrpm> uses very little resources too
[12:12] <Lyv> ari_stress: conky is basically a system monitor that is extremely customisable
[12:12] <[nrx] > poeticrpm: is it just like a desklet/screenlet?
[12:13] <jo_> is gutsy stable enough to install?
[12:13] <poeticrpm> kind of
[12:13] <Lyv> tanath: I'm on Gnome so I'd rather not use amarok
[12:13] <[nrx] > !gutsy | jo_
[12:13] <ubotu> jo_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <tanath> Lyv, i'm on gnome too
[12:13] <steel_lady> SefBacsi it gave me a lot of things, it might be it
[12:13] <tanath> Lyv, amarok works fine on gnome
[12:13] <poeticrpm> nrx, its not system instensive like gdesklets or superkaramba, and it prints to your desktop as if it were part of the wallpaper
[12:13] <tanath> jo_ that depends on you
[12:13] <Lyv> tanath: I know but it uses a lot of system recources
[12:13] <Lyv> tanath: it loads a lot of kde stuff
[12:14] <jo_> tanath: feisty beta worked fine for me
[12:14] <poeticrpm> hold on...
[12:14] <tanath> Lyv, it's not leight-weight like xmms, but it does a lot more
[12:14] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: these are only informations
[12:14] <rob> tanath, if you have scsi/sata cat /proc/scsi/sg/device_strs
[12:14] <livingdaylight> Hello Ubunteros!
[12:14] <Lyv> tanath: I like Listen, if I can get it not change visualisation for GOON to something else
[12:14] <Lyv> not=to
[12:14] <rob> Steven_, see above too :)
[12:14] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I can not identify linux there
[12:14] <tanath> jo_, i'm running gutsy without problems right now, but it is considered unstable. if you're not afraid of having something break, then give it a shot
[12:14] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: it listed all the crap that is in your vista boot
[12:15] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: linux need to be added someway
[12:15] <Lyv> tanath: I'd rather try to do this than just switch to another program esp. if that other program is a kde one
[12:15] <livingdaylight> puede me dirce algien, como convertir .avi a iso, por favor?
[12:15] <tanath> jo_, but consider X could break and you might be without a GUI for a while. though the new X is supposed to be "bulletproof"
[12:15] <Starcraftmazter> hey, when I was installing an nvidia driver, it couldn't copy two files because directories dont exist, and X didnt load because of that, two directories mentioned were /volatile and /nvidia, does anyone know the full paths or where toe get the driver files? Because the installer doesnt seem to want to copy them again
[12:15] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: we need to figure out the correct command yntax
[12:15] <Steven_> rob, tnx again :P
[12:15] <jo_> tanath: ok, i'll look for a spare machine first then.. thanks
[12:15] <rob> Steven_, np
[12:16] <tanath> Lyv, yeh, listen is decent enough, but i never played with it's visuals
[12:16] <rob> tanath, please stop telling people to upgrade to gutsy
[12:16] <tanath> rob, i didn't
[12:16] <rob> yes, you did again.
[12:16] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me whether i can burn .avi directly to cd or whether i have to convert to something else first?
[12:16] <poeticrpm> take a look at this link for conky screenshots and such...
[12:16] <tanath> rob, no, i didn't again
[12:16] <Lyv> tanath: it's ok i'm sure other people will know
[12:16] <poeticrpm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conky
[12:17] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  this is the command syntax: Bcdedit /create {GRUB} /d Grub boot loader
[12:17] <ompaul> livingdaylight, just use gnomebaker or k3b and drag and drop it and press burn
[12:17] <tanath> rob, pay closer attn to what i say and you won't misunderstand me so much
[12:17] <Steven_> rob, no i know that the disk is hdc.. how to get the correct hd<niumber> in grub format to install bootloader?
[12:17] <tanath> rob, i can't respond to PMs
[12:17] <livingdaylight> ompaul, avi directly? cool... i sought i had to do big fancy converstion to iso or something
[12:17] <Steven_> *now
[12:18] <rob> tanath, okay, well just stop it then
[12:18] <poeticrpm> anyone think they can help me with a syntax error on /etc/rc.local
[12:18] <rob> tanath, and you should be able to with me
[12:18] <charlie> OWW
[12:18] <tanath> rob, it was specifically asked about, so i said my piece. the devs want bug testers. if someone is willing then good for them
[12:18] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  any success?
[12:19] <rob> tanath, yes, but stop suggesting it in the support channel, that is what #ubuntu+1 is for
[12:19] <poeticrpm> ill ask again.. anyone know anything about syntax errors
[12:19] <steel_lady> SefBacsi: Entry identifier you specified is invalid. The parameter is not correct
[12:19] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: yeah
[12:19] <sslashes> does anyone know of docs on making usplash themes for gusty?
[12:20] <Lyv> Does anybody know how to make Listen music player use a different visualisation (ie not GOON)?
[12:20] <ompaul> poeticrpm, we don't know until you say what syntax errors where, and if there are more than two lines in it you need http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl to put it htere
[12:20] <brjink> hey is there any way i could network boot a cd
[12:20] <poeticrpm> ompaul, thanks.. haha man ive been around irc for awhile.. i wont flood the channel :)
[12:20] <brjink> or iso
[12:21] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, we have to tell it: read it from brub.mbr
[12:22] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: this should work:  bcdedit /create /d "GRUB" /application OSLOADER
[12:22] <piti> hi everyone
[12:22] <revilodraw> i have asked in #windows, but nobody can help me... im using ubuntu with xp in a virtual machine and am having a problem starting a service in xp... screenshot explains problem.. can anyone help?http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=24522_Screenshot-1_122_534lo.jpg
[12:22] <Shadow6363> hmm, i have an hp officejet 7410xi and can't seem to get scanning working, printing already works fine
[12:23] <piti> I'm in trouble, with a sata dvd-writer, that is not assigned to /dev/cdrom. I think that I have to make a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d, but don't know how...
[12:24] <steel_lady> SefBacsi: the entry {                                                  } was created correctly
[12:24] <[nrx] > hm
[12:24] <SefBacsi> omg
[12:25] <[nrx] > i just dropped fag ash in my coffee :/
[12:25] <poeticrpm> ompaul, had to use general pastebin..
[12:25] <poeticrpm> http://pastebin.ca/700545
[12:25] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and if you do a listing with bcdedit /enum all /v ?
[12:26] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: without questiin mark of course
[12:27] <Steven_> now i know that the disk is hdc.. how to get the correct hd<number> in grub format to install bootloader?
[12:27] <ompaul> poeticrpm, now your little script seems to want to make a tunnel out of your nick - not an ip I question <nick> but thatn is without knowing what it is supposed to do
[12:28] <gumis> czesc
[12:28] <[nrx] > !cz
[12:28] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[12:28] <Pr038> Does anyone had luck installing ubuntu on IBM 306 with raid support, (adp94xx) module is required?
[12:29] <poeticrpm> ompaul.. hmm, i got that you mean my error is happening around my nick, but im a little fuzzy on the rest
[12:29] <ompaul> poeticrpm, I have no idea what you want to achieve with that script - so I don't know what it is to do
[12:30] <raddy> Hello everybody
[12:30] <poeticrpm> ompaul, had to reread, i got you...
[12:30] <steel_lady> SefBacsi it says grub there but obviously does not have any idea what is linux. should I try to reboot?
[12:30] <raddy> howdy
[12:30] <poeticrpm> im attempting seamless rdp with virtualbox and windows xp
[12:31] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: is there any code associated with it?
[12:31] <z9999> Just booted ubuntu after being off for over a month and am presented with 101 updates. Uncertain if safe to proceed as I am presented with a "Warning You are about to install software that can't be authenticated." How should I proceed?
[12:31] <poeticrpm> let me give you the thread that may help you...
[12:31] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: between those brackets
[12:31] <steel_lady> SefBacsi yes it is
[12:31] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: then wait. a few commands and ready to go
[12:31] <raddy> i heard that cnr like service is coming to ubuntu, is it ?
[12:32] <steel_lady> ok, tell me SefBacsi
[12:32] <[nrx] > z9999: just install it
[12:32] <poeticrpm> ompaul- take a look here and see if this helps you..
[12:32] <poeticrpm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433359&highlight=seamlessrdp
[12:32] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: copy the boot image to c:\.
[12:32] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: qwhat was its name?
[12:33] <ompaul> hi people I am an op here I am about to remove a large number of bans
[12:33] <[nrx] > ompaul: ok :)
[12:33] <ompaul> this will result in a little scrolling normal service in a min or so
[12:33] <erUSUL> ompaul: do not be shy XD
[12:33] <[nrx] > lol
[12:33] <z9999> [nrx] : No worries about what is being installed? Just want to be safe.
[12:33] <livingdaylight> ompaul, i can drop avi in gnomebaker and burn to cd or dvd depending on whether it is more or less than 700mb. But to be able to play it on dvd player the dvd player has to be able to play vcd? otherwise i'll just be able to play the avi on cd/dvd on computer only.. have i got that right?
[12:33] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, you mean grub.mbr?
[12:34] <ompaul> livingdaylight, you know what to do there - test :-)
[12:34] <[nrx] > z9999: doubt it.. shouldn't 'break' anything :)
[12:34] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  bcdedit /set {here comes that code associated with the grub entry} device boot
[12:34] <King[doing-homew> Hello
[12:34] <z9999> [nrx] : OK, will give it a go.
[12:34] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: yes. grub.mbr right
[12:34] <poeticrpm> ompaul- my username in line 13 isnt supposed to be in brackets <> is it!?
[12:34] <poeticrpm> wow
[12:35] <ompaul> :)
[12:35] <livingdaylight> ompaul, well, my dvd player plays vcd's but i'm wondering if i make for a friend who doesn't have vcd capacity on their dvd player
[12:35] <poeticrpm> and all the time ive been using nix.. how could I mess that one up
[12:35] <raddy> anybody know?
[12:35] <livingdaylight> ompaul, and if i make on cd it has to be 'data' yes?
[12:35] <poeticrpm> ompaul, thanks.. i wouldnt have realized that without you mentioning the username
[12:35] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: bcdedit /set {here comes that code associated with the grub entry}  PATH c:\grub.mbr
[12:35] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, where tu put the name grub.mbr?
[12:36] <steel_lady> ah ok
[12:36] <SefBacsi> :)
[12:36] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: any errors?
[12:36] <steel_lady> SefBacsi I can not copy that crazy ID, I have to do it by hand :-((
[12:36] <yharrow> my whole package system is broken :S
[12:36] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: this how to is apropiate http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_VCD_or_SVCD or this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_a_DVD
[12:36] <kingdutch> Ok I have a problem: First booting would stand still at "Configuring network interface" for ages so I pressed ctrl + c to skip it. then it said something about a bad driver and now it stops at that little loading screen after logging in (It's loading 3 programs there) first it said: window manager but then my screen got locked due to inactivity :P now I came back and it has nothing up there.
[12:37] <yharrow> how do i downgrade my entire system to a set list of repos?
[12:37] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: :(( i'm sorry for you
[12:37] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: but do it
[12:37] <Avulture> :D steel lady is strong as steel
[12:37] <poeticrpm> ok guys.. im off to reboot and try this new rc.local- later..
[12:37] <yharrow> Avulture:  do you konw how to downgrade and entire system to a set list of repositories?
[12:37] <Irreducibilis> !dvd
[12:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:37] <yharrow> an entire*
[12:38] <livingdaylight> erUSUL, gentoo wiki? ok, sanx
[12:38] <yharrow> !downgrade
[12:38] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[12:38] <Irreducibilis> Yes. I have been reading all you say for hours.
[12:38] <Irreducibilis> Without saying a word.
[12:38] <Irreducibilis> Buwhaha.
[12:38] <yharrow> blah
[12:38] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I don't know enough about that - try it out two disks one test you know everything
[12:38] <yharrow> anybody?
[12:38] <revilodraw> im using ubuntu with xp in a virtual machine and am having a problem starting a service in xp... screenshot explains problem.. can anyone help?http://img185.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=24522_Screenshot-1_122_534lo.jpg
[12:38] <yharrow> ok nm
[12:38] <Avulture> !offtopic
[12:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:39] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: there's nothing specific to gentoo there... they are normal user programs (if they tell youn to install something use apt instead of emerge of course ;P)
[12:39] <yharrow> av-:  my question is offtopic?
[12:39] <yharrow> Avulture:  i mean
[12:39] <kingdutch> Ok I have a problem: First booting would stand still at "Configuring network interface" for ages so I pressed ctrl + c to skip it. then it said something about a bad driver and now it stops at that little loading screen after logging in (It's loading 3 programs there) first it said: window manager but then my screen got locked due to inactivity :P now I came back and it has nothing up there. Someone knows what to do?? Please? :)
[12:39] <livingdaylight> erUSUL, the instructions are using portage... a how to like dis for .deb would be fantastico
[12:39] <Avulture> yharrow.. why you want to downgrade to an earlier version ?
[12:40] <yharrow> Avulture: i added a bunch of weird repos and now my system is broken
[12:40] <steel_lady> SefBacsi the operation was completed correctly
[12:40] <SefBacsi> ok
[12:40] <livingdaylight> erUSUL, mkdir -p /etc/portage/
[12:40] <livingdaylight> echo "media-video/mplayer encode" >> /etc/portage/package.use
[12:40] <clip> can sb. here help me compiling ffmpeg?!
[12:40] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, we have to tell bill gates to put linux copy/paste system for the terminal :)
[12:40] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: i only see instructions on how to use ffmeg transcode vcdimager and related programs
[12:40] <Avulture> yharrow, i think you could just make a new install of an earlier version of ubuntu if you know where you could find it
[12:40] <ompaul> hi people I am an op here I am about to remove a large number of bans
[12:40] <ompaul> this will result in a little scrolling normal service in a min or so
[12:41] <SefBacsi> steel_lady:  bcdedit /displayorder {your lin.....here} /addlast
[12:41] <livingdaylight> erUSUL, emerge transcode ffmpeg mplayer dvdauthor dvd+rw-tools
[12:41] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, is it finished now, can I boot?
[12:41] <rob> wow. nice one ompaul
[12:41] <rob> not.
[12:41] <xera^> Wow so many bans
[12:41] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: there is: just right vlick on the marked text
[12:41] <kingdutch> dmn lol
[12:41] <kingdutch> Woa
[12:41] <yharrow> Avulture: you mean basically, i screwed myself over and the only choice is to reinstall?
[12:41] <livingdaylight> ompaul, the great liberator... holding all those souls captive
[12:41] <jatt> wow
[12:41] <erUSUL> livingdaylight: instead of emerge use apt-get install as i've already said
[12:41] <Avulture> it's ok yharrow to reinstall it , unless you know how to solve your problems
[12:42] <Avulture> besides it won't take much time to install a fresh copy of ubuntu
[12:42] <tokj> ompaul: -_-
[12:42] <Avulture> depends on the speed of your system
[12:42] <yharrow> Avulture: its only a matter of downgrading the packages that are breaking my system i think
[12:42] <steel_lady> SefBacsi it is added last
[12:42] <PriceChild> Xera^, there's hundreds more ;)
[12:42] <tokj> ompaul: use pastebin lol :P
[12:42] <steel_lady> SefBacsi to click where?
[12:42] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: bcdedit /timeout 10
[12:42] <Avulture> yharrow, what packages which caused to you these problems ?
[12:43] <Xera^> PriceChild I see
[12:43] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: right click on terminal surface, then select mark. after that mark the desired text. then right click ->copy, right click->paste
[12:43] <steel_lady> SefBacsi correct again
[12:43] <ompaul> tokj, yeap
[12:43] <SefBacsi> then let's see what to do next
[12:43] <yharrow> Avulture: not sure but i can tell you what error i get when i try install -f
[12:44] <yharrow> one sec
[12:44] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: reboot
[12:44] <Avulture> OK
[12:44] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and let's hope that worx
[12:44] <steel_lady> Yes, Sir, SefBacsi
[12:45] <Loevborg> Hi everyone, can anyone tell me how to turn on "auto-away" in the Gaim shipped w/ feisty?
[12:46] <yharrow> crap
[12:47] <yharrow> anyways
[12:47] <yharrow> heres the errors i get
[12:47] <yharrow> http://pastebin.com/m7ae6376f
[12:47] <steel_lady> SefBacsi it is perfectly ignoring it
[12:47] <SefBacsi> :((
[12:47] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: not even a menu during boot?
[12:48] <Cope> I'm having problems getting my wireless card to play nicely with a bridge: http://pastebin.ca/700553
[12:48] <Cope> the bridge works fine for eth0 (ethernet cable plugged into router)
[12:48] <Cope> but wireless doesn't
[12:48] <Cope> works fine if I don't use the bridge
[12:48] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, I haven't seen it, I will try again, I just noticed in msconfig that it changed timeout from 30 to 10 secs
[12:48] <Cope> any ideas?
[12:49] <Cope> eg does the wireless essid need to be in a preup or something?
[12:49] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
[12:49] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: try it pls
[12:49] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i'm starting to get depressed about microsoft's innivations
[12:50] <steel_lady> SefBacsi no it doesn't work
[12:50] <panosru> Does anyone knows how to update my current 3.2 Eclipse to Europa 3.3?
[12:50] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and if you list the bootconfig? linux appears there?
[12:50] <kingdutch> Can someone tell me why my ubuntu isn't loading those three programs after you login?
[12:50] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, maybe the copy of the grub I did was bad?
[12:50] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: i mean GRUB
[12:51] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: it should try to bot from the bad image anyway
[12:51] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: and if it fails then shoud it fall back towindoze
[12:52] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: the menu appears with the GRUB entry?
[12:53] <steel_lady> SefBacsi yes it appears
[12:53] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: btw.: you have to make that dd studd of the partition where you have the GRUB boot loader installed ALREADY
[12:54] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: this should be your ubuntu installation partition' s boot record
[12:54] <steel_lady> Sefbacsi there is one part where it says: Windows Bootloader: Itentifier {that num}  path: c/grub.mbr  description GRUB
[12:54] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: but you have to install GRUB somewhere
[12:54] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: yes?
[12:54] <yharrow> SefBacsi: can you please tell me what this error means: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_3.93.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindGObject.cmake', which is also in package kde4base-data
[12:55] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: no idea
[12:55] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, I will have to go now, my boss will kill me, do you have msn?
[12:55] <SefBacsi> yes
[12:56] <SefBacsi> steel_lady: jani_laszlo@hotmail.com
[12:56] <kingdutch> Ok I have a problem: First booting would stand still at "Configuring network interface" for ages so I pressed ctrl + c to skip it. then it said something about a bad driver and now it stops at that little loading screen after logging in (It's loading 3 programs there) first it said: window manager but then my screen got locked due to inactivity :P now I came back and it has nothing up there. Someone knows what to do?? Please? :)
[12:56] <steel_lady> SefBacsi, can you add me, after my nick just put @passport.com
[12:56] <yharrow> can ant please tell me what this error means: yone: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_3.93.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindGObject.cmake', which is also in package kde4base-data
[12:56] <yharrow> anyone*
[12:58] <main2> i need to use ndiswrapper on feisty, but i dont seem to be able to find a package called 'ndiswrapper' in the repos
[12:58] <main2> what should i install?
[12:58] <linxuz3r> when is the release of the next ubuntu?
[12:58] <main2> who knows...
[12:59] <mc44> main2: you need to install "ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[12:59] <mc44> er "
[12:59] <Demortes> well, there goes my apt-cache search command :P
[12:59] <main2> mc44 ok tought so - installing it while talking :D had it selected already
[12:59] <mc44> !gutsy | linxuz3r
[12:59] <ubotu> linxuz3r: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <main2> but i wasnt too sure
[12:59] <linxuz3r> thanks
[12:59] <mc44> main2: the commands are all "ndiswrapper" though, once you've installed it
[12:59] <Tomcat_> Yay... my Dell/Ubuntu notebook arrived. :D
[01:00] <linxuz3r> i wish vmware runs compatible with compiz-fusion properly
[01:00] <Demortes> Tomcat, any good with support? :P
[01:00] <XsteelWolf> anybody having problems with Knetwork Manager stuck at 28% while connecting?
[01:00] <mc44> linxuz3r: vmware doesn't support 3D acceleration
[01:00] <Tomcat_> Demortes: ? :)
[01:00] <Demortes> Just curious, cause I don't have OEM computers.
[01:00] <yharrow> can anyone please tell me what this error means:  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-data_3.93.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindGObject.cmake', which is also in package kde4base-data
[01:01] <clip> can sb. here help me compiling ffmpeg?!
[01:01] <Demortes> yharrow, a package you are trying to install or do whatever is trying to overrite...
[01:01] <mc44> clip: why do you need to compile it?
[01:01] <Demortes> If you want it to go through, add sudo in the compile or something, but not liable if it screws up your KDE
[01:01] <erUSUL> yharrow: it means exactly what it says. the two packages have the same file within and apt refuses to overwritte the one instaled with the version of the other package
[01:01] <linxuz3r> mc44, I dont really know what when desktop compsiting is on the vmware screen shows nothing but a black background
[01:02] <clip> mc44: to install the ffmpeg-php extension, i always get the msg that i need to --enable-shared
[01:02] <mc44> linxuz3r: no, you can't do it. vmware can't access your graphics card to accelerate things
[01:02] <mc44> clip: try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg
[01:03] <panosru>  Hi, i try to update Eclipse 3.2 to Europa 3.3 but with no success, can anyone help me?
[01:04] <yharrow> erUSUL: thanks man. I am trying now to find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:05] <USMarine> htpasswd2 comes with what package?
[01:05] <linxuz3r> mc44, i mean just the display
[01:09] <Demortes> hey, anyone know if there is a ventrilo server package for LTS?
[01:10] <Demortes> 6.10 LTS*
[01:10] <GB__> hi there
[01:10] <GB__> with which program in ubuntu can you scan ports of an ip address?
[01:11] <scorpioxy> hey guys. i am trying to write a panel applet, and i have a question. when setting up the context menu, i need to pass data to the respective verb handlers. how do i do that and where can i find some documentation on all of this that is complete? I tried asking in #gnome with no luck.
[01:11] <Demortes> netstat -tap will list your own
[01:11] <mc44> GB__: nmap
[01:11] <Demortes> test
[01:11] <Demortes> Hrm, mc44, what irc client you use?
[01:12] <main2> i should be able to use wpa_supplicant with ndiswrapper driver, shouldnt i?
[01:12] <mc44> Demortes: xchat
[01:12] <Demortes> hmm.
[01:12] <Demortes> it support more than one server at a time?
[01:12] <[nrx] > or nessus
[01:13] <Demortes> Hey, I liked nessus... got it to work on windows, that's it
[01:13] <Demortes> Found an exploit in TVersity
[01:13] <[nrx] > and ethereal
[01:13] <GB__> HMM OK<BUT APT_GET DOES NOT WORK
[01:13] <kbrooks> !caps | GB__
[01:13] <ubotu> GB__: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:13] <AndrewB> !caps | GB__
[01:13] <AndrewB> Ah
[01:14] <Demortes> Heh. Try "apt-get install <prog>"
[01:14] <[nrx] > sudo apt-get install nmap
[01:14] <GB__> sorry, caps lock was on....
[01:14] <Demortes> oh yeah, forgot the sudo
[01:14] <mc44> GB__: try System - Administration - Network Tools
[01:14] <Demortes> Hrm, here's a good question for you guys.
[01:15] <kbrooks> i'm willing to contribute to open source. What program really needs my help?
[01:15] <mc44> Demortes: yes, it supports multiple servers
[01:15] <[nrx] > Demortes: what is the meaning of life?
[01:15] <PriceChild> !participate | kbrooks #
[01:15] <ubotu> kbrooks #: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[01:15] <Demortes> I set up a VNC server, all seems alright, and I want to be able to connect to it, provide my ubuntu login details, and connect to a desktop.
[01:15] <kbrooks> PriceChild, why type the #?
[01:15] <GB__> ok thanks
[01:16] <PriceChild> kbrooks, typo
[01:16] <kbrooks> PriceChild, and thank you for the link.
[01:16] <Demortes> Now, when I connect, it asks for the password I set for it, I enter it, and it gives me a gray screen with an X for a cursor. I tried doing the xstartup fix, but eh... no luck
[01:16] <Demortes> Suggestions?
[01:16] <kbrooks> Demortes, looking around, but try ubuntu's built in one:
[01:17] <Demortes> Can't
[01:17] <Demortes> It doesn't support vnc-java
[01:17] <kbrooks> Demortes, and you need that?
[01:17] <Crystal> hda: lost interrupt <-- what is it?
[01:17] <Demortes> Yes, cause I'm connecting from work, can't download a vncviewer
[01:17] <kbrooks> Demortes, oh.
[01:18] <GB__> unable to lock the admin dir var/lib/dpkg...
[01:18] <Demortes> add sudo to your command
[01:19] <GB__> are you root? is asked when I hit apt-get install
[01:19] <TxPitou> morning ti all
[01:19] <mikubuntu> is there supposed to be two or four desktop panels as default?  is there a way to modify?  i guess there must be a way to get four, because you'd need four to make a beryl cube, right?  anybody able to help me with this?  i've been wanting to get a beryl cube for a month and a half now, can't seem to do it alone :)
[01:19] <[nrx] > sudo apt-get install nmap
[01:19] <cothax> test
[01:19] <cothax> OK, in xchat, how do you get it to automatically put Demortes: test?
[01:19] <TxPitou> cothax, test denied.
[01:19] <cothax> lol, thanks :P
[01:19] <AndrewB> mikubuntu: iirc you can right click on it?
[01:19] <TxPitou> cothax,  type der <tab>
[01:20] <cothax> Demortes, Ah!
[01:20] <cothax> neat!
[01:20] <Crystal> hda: lost interrupt <-- what is it? ....
[01:20] <[nrx] > ..
[01:20] <cothax> Anyhow, switching clients
[01:20] <mikubuntu> AndrewB: not sure what you mean; iirc?
[01:20] <AndrewB> mikubuntu: if i remember correct
[01:20] <TxPitou> cothax, the joys of actually bothering to read the help file.... get to know all the fun gadgets an app does. :)
[01:21] <Demortes> True, and noted
[01:23] <GB__> hey that works, great!
[01:23] <TxPitou> mikubuntu, bottom right of your screen, boxes show, right mouse button click, select preferences change setting from 2 to 4
[01:24] <XsteelWolf> anyone using intel 4965agn?
[01:24] <TxPitou> XsteelWolf, and that would be a motherboard, a soundcard a video card a network card ? (yes I am too lazy to google on questions)
[01:25] <XsteelWolf> network
[01:25] <TxPitou> XsteelWolf, (like pulling worms from a nose) ... maybe could I suggest to make a questions on your problem ?
[01:26] <XsteelWolf> I'm trying to connect to the net,however knetwork manager always stuck at 28% and auto disconnect itself later
[01:27] <TxPitou> you usein Kubuntu?
[01:27] <TxPitou> using
[01:27] <XsteelWolf> yep
[01:27] <[nrx] > is it wireless?
[01:27] <XsteelWolf> yes
[01:27] <[nrx] > have you put the correct key in?
[01:28] <chal> need some help with swapoff command  the useage in my case is swapoff -a [DEVICE}
[01:28] <[nrx] > chal that's correct
[01:28] <TxPitou> XsteelWolf, only suggestion I have is check out this forum search page on the network card maybe find someone that has the same problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=27289037
[01:28] <XsteelWolf> yep
[01:29] <Crystal> hda: lost interrupt <-- what is it? ....
[01:30] <TxPitou> XsteelWolf, and for the record, alot of time wifi cards get "buggy" in linux dev drivers, and something ndiswrapper + windows driver is the only solution to make it work properly
[01:30] <jorge__> hola
[01:30] <jorge__> bueno hello
[01:30] <TxPitou> jorge__, que tal
[01:30] <main2> how did i make a module load automaticly at bootup?
[01:30] <TxPitou> modprobe --help
[01:31] <mc44> main2: which module?
[01:31] <chal> [nrx]  ok above the DEVICE that in my case is the swap partition which is i think  #5  logical   3.00gb   F   swap
[01:31] <jorge__> eing
[01:31] <jorge__> i'm not speak in english
[01:31] <jorge__> bueno not very goot
[01:31] <[nrx] > chal: swapoff -a /dev/hda5 for instance
[01:32] <TxPitou> jorge__, yo es espanol ?
[01:32] <Myrtti> !es | jorge__
[01:32] <ubotu> jorge__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:32] <jorge__> dios alguien k habla en mi idioma
[01:32] <jorge__> okis
[01:32] <main2> mc44: ndiswrapper :D
[01:32] <mc44> main2: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[01:33] <ChasingVertigo> Can someone help me figuire out why Nvidia GeForce 8500GT isn't being detected on Gutsy T5
[01:33] <TxPitou> ChasingVertigo, got the restricted driver allowed?
[01:33] <ChasingVertigo> Yeah, then did the restart to make it work
[01:33] <ChasingVertigo> and it sent me to the X crash screen
[01:34] <Myrtti> hmhmmmm
[01:34] <mikubuntu> AndrewB: yes, i got four desktops now, but still can't get beryl to activate .. hmmmmmm
[01:34] <TxPitou> I have an ATI had to enable it, then goto add/remove search for ATI and install other drivers... saw some nvidia drivers there as well..
[01:34] <TxPitou> mikubuntu, <ctl><alt><downarrow>
[01:35] <ChasingVertigo> the x output reads:
[01:35] <ChasingVertigo> (==) using config file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:35] <ChasingVertigo> (WW) NVIDIA: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[01:35] <ChasingVertigo> (EE) No devices detected
[01:36] <ChasingVertigo> when I look at xorgs conf file it reads the graphics cards description as "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] "
[01:36] <ChasingVertigo> I don't have any ATI cards
[01:36] <Alex_001> is there a driver for my wireless adapter Gateway WGC-220 in Ubuntu?
[01:37] <Alex_001> is there a driver for my wireless adapter Gateway WGC-220 in Ubuntu?
[01:37] <TxPitou> Alex_001, whats the chipset of your wifi ? (I use a Gateway M520x)
[01:37] <Alex_001> it's Broadcom I think
[01:38] <ALGxS> hi
[01:38] <TxPitou> Alex_001 need to know..
[01:38] <ALGxS> somebody know c++?
[01:38] <chal> [nrx]  this is diffrent to the norn as i am in the patitioner during install and swap has not been written to disk yet, but i can access consul and use the swapoff command however swapoff -a /dev/had5 does not have seemed to work
[01:38] <Alex_001> wait I'll look it up on the web
[01:38] <GB__> what is "gconfaudiosrc!audioconvert! could not open resource for writing. ?
[01:39] <mikubuntu> TxPitou: ok, i see how that toggles between the workspaces, but i'm really wanting to get that 3D cube effect, so that i can have the coolest computer in the house.  from that position of strength, i should be able to corner the ice cream market.
[01:39] <TxPitou> Alex_001, nah, goto system, preferences, hardware information, look down the list....
[01:40] <[nrx] > chal, what does "swapon -s" give you?
[01:40] <Alex_001> it's Broadcom BCM4320
[01:40] <Michael_Ubuntu> how to view image under w3m?
[01:40] <TxPitou> mikubuntu, so you have beryl installed? have you set the setting in preferences ?
[01:40] <[nrx] > chal or what are you actually trying to do? :)
[01:40] <Alex_001> i'm on Windows XP right now
[01:40] <TxPitou> ah
[01:40] <TxPitou> Alex_001, hang on I think I have your solution
[01:40] <Alex_001> ok
[01:41] <GB__> try to play sound in ubuntu, but it does not work :-(
[01:41] <Grodius> Its ok
[01:42] <TxPitou> Alex_001, this is what I used (installer) works like a charm, just install firmware.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=bcm43xx-0.3.2-internet.tar.gz
[01:42] <Alex_001> update the firmware?
[01:42] <mikubuntu> TxPitou: yes i've opened the settings manager, and click checked all the boxes for 3d cube, blur, wobbly, etc... but nothing happens ....
[01:44] <TxPitou> GB__, double click on speaker in toolbar, once volume control panel is up, edit, preferences, scroll down and select external amplifier, close, switches tab, click on first one list appears, scroll to amplifier, unselect it.
[01:44] <TxPitou> mikubuntu, dunno... I use Compiz
[01:45] <mikubuntu> how do i get compiz?
[01:45] <TxPitou> I did a search on forum and found an install topic..
[01:45] <[nrx] > !compiz | mikubuntu
[01:45] <mikubuntu> TxPitou: is compiz the one that's coming out in gutsey?
[01:45] <TxPitou> well time for me to head to work.., ciao people
[01:45] <ubotu> mikubuntu: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:45] <phidef_> salu tout le monde
[01:45] <mikubuntu> thanks guys
[01:46] <[nrx] > !fr
[01:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:47] <Demortes> OK, for some reason my ventrilo server doesn't see the interfaces...
[01:49] <eddie> hello
[01:51] <mp3guy> Hi, I've got a laptop with an intel hda soundcard, I can't get sound to work, I've tried recompiling the newest alsa, but nothing, amarok shows the music playing but I can't hear anything
[01:53] <clip> mc44: you gave me the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg, can you help me with it?
[01:56] <bonaldo2000> Does anyone know if flash in firefox in ubuntu is somehow restricted so that it can't get information from eg an XML file on another server?
[01:56] <JimmiJones> Morning, I have an x question I was hoping someone could help me with
[01:56] <bonaldo2000> I mean a flash banner running on a site...
[01:56] <clip> i need help compiling ffmpeg, can sb. help me
[01:57] <bonaldo2000> clip: whats the problem?
[01:57] <clip> bonaldo2000: i got this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg
[01:57] <IdleOne> clip: why do you need to compile it?
[01:57] <ALGxS> help with c++ please
[01:57] <JimmiJones> i swapped my hd to a newer computer and x won't initalize, but if I try to drop to console it reboots if I try to log in
[01:57] <clip> because i want to install the ffmpeg-php extension
[01:58] <IdleOne> clip: what problem you having?
[01:58] <bonaldo2000> clip: and the instructions in that links does not work?
[01:58] <orkid1> JimmiJones: try booting into rescue mode.
[01:59] <clip> i think ich somehow rowed them false because i always get an error like:Unknown option " --enable-libogg"
[01:59] <JimmiJones> newb, how do you do that?
[01:59] <clip> when i delete that parameter an otherone is wrong
[01:59] <orkid1> JimmiJones: reboot, and choose it from the menu (press ESC to get the menu if necessary)
[01:59] <clip> bonaldo2000: what do the backslashes mean?
[01:59] <JimmiJones> kvm, will try and brb, thx
[02:00] <bonaldo2000> clip: you mean ./ ?
[02:00] <Kindredgarou> anyone know the 64 bit fiesty Ram limits?
[02:00] <clip> no, at the end of the lign theres a \
[02:00] <reverseblade> How do I add a static dns record to my host file ? I am not using any dns server.
[02:00] <bonaldo2000> clip: ah ok. I think it just means that it continues the command on the next line...
[02:01] <clip> so i don't have to use them
[02:01] <ChasingVertigo> Is there a generic failsafe graphics driver for ubuntu?
[02:01] <bonaldo2000> clip: just paste everything on one line
[02:01] <ChasingVertigo> *as in to put in xorg.conf
[02:01] <Kindredgarou> what graphics vendor?
[02:01] <ChasingVertigo> nvidia
[02:01] <ChasingVertigo> except nv doesnt work
[02:02] <orkid1> ChasingVertigo: try vesa
[02:02] <ALGxS> I can't use driver to nvidia geforce2 mx/mx400
[02:02] <Kindredgarou> nvidia do support linux and have a unified driver
[02:02] <autodidakt> hi, i am new to this whole linux thing. i just tried to write a sh script to start an app but i dont know what to press for blank in a directory or filename
[02:02] <ALGxS> too xD
[02:02] <orkid1> ALGxS: see if it's supported in the legacy version of the driver.
[02:02] <ALGxS> ALGxS:  it say yes
[02:03] <ALGxS> but It doesn't work
[02:03] <autodidakt> algxs trief envy?
[02:03] <ALGxS> what?
[02:03] <ALGxS> I can't understand
[02:03] <mjrclark> autodidakt: I think you "escape" spaces with a "\"
[02:04] <orkid1> yes
[02:04] <orkid1> that is correct
[02:04] <autodidakt> am i allowed to post urls in here?
[02:04] <autodidakt> or just google envy
[02:04] <dgjones> !envy | autodidakt
[02:04] <ubotu> autodidakt: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:04] <autodidakt> its the first hit
[02:04] <autodidakt> kay sry
[02:05] <autodidakt> was the only thing that worked with my 8800gts
[02:05] <ALGxS> envy? I am not english, so I don't know what thas mean
[02:06] <autodidakt> as ubotu says
[02:06] <autodidakt> never mind ^
[02:06] <mc44> autodidakt: what do you mean by blank?
[02:06] <ALGxS> what can I do to use a envy driver?
[02:06] <ALGxS> change my vga?
[02:06] <porkpie> hi guy's, I have just installed subversion but I can't seem to connect to the port .....does anyone know if the ubuntu package uses the standard port ??
[02:06] <mjrclark> envy is not a driver, it is a script to load the nvidia drivers, so if they do not work for you, neither will it.
[02:06] <autodidakt> "/home/user/directory with blanks/
[02:07] <orkid1> probably does, check your firewall settings.
[02:07] <orkid1> porkpie:
[02:07] <orkid1> porkpie: if it's a subversion server you're running.
[02:07] <ALGxS> mjrclark:  where can I have envy?
[02:07] <orkid1> autodidakt: yes do "/home/user/directory\ with\ blanks/" and it should work
[02:07] <rud1r055> autodidakt: you have to use backslash to esacape the blank or quotation marks
[02:08] <orkid1> autodidakt: press tab (to autocomplete) in the shell, and you'll see how it's done
[02:08] <rud1r055> but not BOTH as orkid has posted
[02:08] <autodidakt> okay
[02:08] <porkpie> orkid1:good question
[02:08] <praet> porkpie: [netstat -na |grep 3690] 
[02:08] <autodidakt> hehe
[02:08] <autodidakt> i see
[02:08] <ALGxS> I'm working at 600x800 so I'ts boring
[02:08] <orkid1> rud1r055: both won't work? ...
[02:08] <rud1r055> no, interprets bakslash as a literal character then
[02:09] <jatt> lsof -ti tcp:3690
[02:09] <orkid1> ok. sorry porkpie , my error.
[02:09] <rud1r055> at least bash does
[02:09] <porkpie> praet:looks like it's not runing
 thx, that let me do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the video is a little off centered in the screen, but at least I have x back and can work on it from there.
[02:10] <billiejoex> I'm sorry: does it exist a MIT-like license which forces the user to send me a notification if he's willing to include MY software into HIS software?
[02:10] <porkpie> orkid1:how do I start svn
[02:10] <porkpie> systemcms_devel:/work/svn-security/bin# svn status
[02:10] <porkpie> svn: '.' is not a working copy
[02:10] <orkid1> porkpie: the servier?
[02:10] <orkid1> porkpie: what are you trying to do
[02:11] <orkid1> try #svn for help on Subversion related tasks.
[02:11] <naelp> how do you disable the shadow under the mouse cursor? in windows it is in system/performance under show mouse shadows
[02:12] <orkid1> naelp: try 'look and feel' in system preferences
[02:12] <Eko_Hermiyanto> dear all
[02:12] <porkpie> orkid1:I need to connect to the svn server ....   I have installed it using apt-get install   but I can connect and it looks like the server is not listening on the port
[02:12] <orkid1> naelp: that's where i think it is.
[02:12] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have a problem when have to build a program in ubuntu
[02:12] <Eko_Hermiyanto> the problem is string.h is not found
[02:12] <jatt> Eko_Hermiyanto: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:12] <Eko_Hermiyanto> do I have installed something first?
[02:12] <Eko_Hermiyanto> jatt: thanks so much
[02:12] <orkid1> porkpie: that's odd. so you're running the svn server on your local machine? maybe it's not on...
[02:13] <Engrad> 'lo All
[02:13] <lorenzo_> hi
[02:13] <Engrad> I havce a question about multiple gateways, can I define multiple gateways in linux
[02:13] <orkid1> Engrad: of course
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> wow
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> jatt: you are rock
[02:14] <Engrad> how
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> :D
[02:14] <orkid1> Engrad: try #networking
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> thank you so much
[02:14] <Engrad> thanks
[02:14] <porkpie> orkid1:I am running it my server  ....
[02:14] <orkid1> Engrad: (using 'route')
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> now I can use yahoo messenger client in my emacs
[02:14] <Eko_Hermiyanto> :D
[02:14] <orkid1> porkpie: 'nestat -al' to see what ports are open, if it's running
[02:15] <porkpie> orkid1:nope it's not running
[02:15] <prospero91> what's the channel for beryl questions? ubuntu-effects?
[02:16] <prospero91> I want to know why lspci -X doesn't work on edgy
[02:16] <nephish> susscorfa, thanks for the tip earlier, mutt is doing great
[02:16] <prospero91> ack
[02:16] <prospero91> wrong channel
[02:16] <orkid1> porkpie: so start it, possible by using 'service subversion start' or something like that. /etc/init.d/subversion start perhaps.
[02:17] <porkpie> orkid1::)
[02:18] <orkid1> porkpie: did it work ?
[02:18] <lorenzo_> hello, someone know the command to see all the wfi acces point
[02:18] <abdelrahman> hi, i installed KDE on my Ubuntu install, how can i switch between GNOME and KDE
[02:18] <orkid1> lorenzo_: depends on your card perhaps, but try iwlist ath0 scan (if it's an atheros card).
[02:19] <orkid1> lorenzo_: or use a GUI program like wifi-radar
[02:19] <lorenzo_> thanks
[02:19] <porkpie> orkid1:I think the install is borked, I don't have a subversion in /etc/init.d/ :S
[02:20] <lorenzo_> i dont like wifi-radar
[02:20] <orkid1> porkpie: it might not be there. did you try 'service subversion start' or 'service svn start' ? were there any errors on installing it?
[02:20] <orkid1> lorenzo_: there are others too. but iwlist ath0 scan is the console command that'll start an active scan on ath0.
[02:20] <Kindredgarou> meep
[02:21] <porkpie> orkid1:nope :S
[02:21] <lorenzo_> and to connect you know the command line
[02:21] <orkid1> lorenzo_: it depends again, if it has no encryption it's easy: "iwconfig ath0 essid "ap_ssid_here" "ifconfig up"
[02:22] <porkpie> orkid1:strange I can't find anyway of starting the svn
[02:23] <orkid1> porkpie: it is.
[02:24] <porkpie> orkid1:I can use the svn commands ...but can't connect to the server
[02:24] <amrnet> hi i am looking for an easy to use mysql administration tool something like phpmyadmin any ideas:)
[02:25] <rm130> how can I get shockwave plugin on my computer?
[02:25] <SUServMod07> can anyone here help me figure out why my Live CD is not a valid boot source? I;ve tried on several boxes to no avail
[02:25] <mikubuntu> on the composite ubuntu support page refers to this repository; how do i obtain it? 'deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib'
[02:26] <dgjones> !shockwave | rm130
[02:26] <ubotu> rm130: Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:27] <lorenzo_> great! is there a command to see the acces point in real time
[02:27] <spiderfire> how do i mount a bin/cue file in linux?
[02:27] <orkid1> lorenzo_: iwlist ath0 scan is as real time as it gets. if you want to scan access points passively (ie. grab beacon packets/etc) then google kismet
[02:28] <orkid1> porkpie: maybe you installed the client only, not the server/
[02:28] <mikubuntu> SUServMod07: did you burn it yourself?  are the boxes, or more importantly the cd drives you are inserting them in newer or older?  are you using good quality cd's if you are burning yourself?  are you burning at a slow speed to eliminate/reduce errors?
[02:28] <mjrclark> mikubuntu: you have to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file, though there should be a gui interface to do that in system settings somewhere.
[02:28] <orkid1> porkpie: try apt-cache search subversion.
[02:29] <porkpie> orkid1:subversion - advanced version control system (aka. svn)
[02:29] <porkpie> orkid1:thats what I installed
[02:30] <SUServMod07> mikbuntu - yes I burned my self using a new DVD-RW (on to an HP CD-R). I can read the files from windows and the Ubuntu tutorial screen works on autorun - however, none of my systems recognize the disc as a boot source (even when disabling the HDD and other boot devices in the BIOS) - all the systems are less than 2 years old (3 boxes total)
[02:30] <lorenzo_> yes but the  "Bit Rates" doesnt move, its more like a picture.. you know what I mean :)
[02:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> anyone here using yodel to chat in yahoo?
[02:32] <themaster369> hello
[02:32] <themaster369> can anyone hear me?
[02:33] <dgjones> themaster369, yes
[02:33] <SUServMod07> I am wondering if there is a missing file in the root directory of the disc - the method of burning was ----> extract files to HDD dir -> entire directory -> Nero -> HP-DVD-RW 300 -> HP CD-R
[02:33] <themaster369> hi dgjones
[02:33] <themaster369> im new to ubuntu are you a new user too>? or experienced
[02:33] <Tasmaniac> anyone here got fiesty server(ie no gui) to print from a winxp usb printer ?
[02:34] <themaster369> has anyone had any luck installing vmware on ubuntu ?
[02:36] <Tasmaniac> SUServMod07, if you are trying to boot off that disk wheres the boot sector
[02:36] <praet> porkpie: did you run svnadmin? to create a subversion repo using svnserve?
[02:36] <praet> themaster369: no problem here.  add the repo and [sudo apt-get install vmware-server] 
[02:36] <lorenzo_> someone know how to connect to MSN please
[02:37] <MeRodent> lorenzo_, aMSN or gaim will do that
[02:37] <mihaX14> !amsn
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <lorenzo_> thx
[02:37] <Toma-> !info amsn
[02:37] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[02:37] <themaster369> hi Praet can i PM you >?
[02:37] <mihaX14> !gaim
[02:37] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:37] <dgjones> !!msn | lorenzo_
[02:37] <ubotu> lorenzo_: please see above
[02:37] <lorenzo_> you know which one is the best?
[02:37] <mihaX14> lorenzo: amsn
[02:38] <lorenzo_> thanks!
[02:38] <SUServMod07> Tasmaniac, define which boot sector; the Ubuntu files are in their original directory tree conformation
[02:38] <dgjones> lorenzo_, "best" is subjective, try each of them, you can have them all installed at the same time, ubuntu comes with gaim preinstalled and kubuntu with kopete
[02:38] <MeRodent> lorenzo_, horses for courses. Gaim will also allow you to irc but amsn looks prettier.
[02:39] <mikubuntu> SUServMod07: not really sure what the problem might be then, some burn programs have special instructions on burning raw cd images... my external iomega works every time for me, in conjunction with some default ubuntu cdburn program that comes up when i insert a disk.... if noone else offers you any contrary advice, i might suggest you check your instructions in the burn program carefully,...
[02:39] <mikubuntu> ...or try another ...
[02:39] <lorenzo_> ok :)
[02:39] <dgjones> lorenzo_, i think in the next version of ubuntu due out next month, ubuntu used pidgin as a renamed version of gaim
[02:39] <praet> themaster369: sure.
[02:39] <XiXaQ> does anyone know how, if it's possible, to reload xchat's configuration without restarting it?
[02:40] <themaster369> HI everyone...im new to linuz and Ubuntu, first time here can someone PM me I really need help !!!!!!!!!
[02:40] <lorenzo_> ok
[02:40] <XiXaQ> themaster369, ask a question here so everyone can answer and others can learn from it.
[02:40] <dgjones> !pm | themaster369
[02:40] <Tasmaniac> SUServMod07, well to boot from any disk it requires a boot block/sector. You need to burn the iso to the cd not the directories themself
 what do you need
[02:40] <ubotu> themaster369: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[02:40] <themaster369> ok i ask in here
[02:40] <SUServMod07> mikubuntu - thanks - I will check the burn parameters in Nero to see if something wasn't set correctly for a direct image burn
[02:41] <lorenzo_> what is PM??
[02:41] <themaster369> basically...im trying to install VMware on ubuntu
[02:41] <XiXaQ> lorenzo_, private message.
[02:41] <MeRodent> lorenzo_, personal message
[02:41] <SUServMod07> Tasmaniac - thanks - I am attempting to copy the files as a disc image now
[02:41] <lorenzo_> ok
[02:41] <IdleOne> !vmware
[02:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:41] <lorenzo_> and what is your problem?
[02:41] <orkid1> I have a serial mouse, but it is not workin by default. I also tried 'cat /dev/ttyS0' and 'cat /dev/ttyS1' and moving the mouse, but nothing shows up. Any ideas?
[02:41] <themaster369> I have managed to successfully install ubuntu but need vmware running for XP
[02:42] <themaster369> i get lots of errors
[02:42] <themaster369> i seen so many sites now....where users have had problems
[02:42] <MeRodent> !enter | themaster369
[02:42] <ubotu> themaster369: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:42] <xukun> I normally burn iso video files directly from the console, but I do I burn vob files from the console?
[02:43] <Tasmaniac> SUServMod07, Nero is burn from image (or something like that.) file should be Ubuntu-7 etc and type is iso
[02:43] <themaster369> !enter themaster369
[02:43] <praet> themaster369: why not try virtualbox?
[02:44] <themaster369> ive never used it...is it as flexible as VMware?
[02:44] <praet> themaster369: yes.
[02:44] <praet> !virtualbox
[02:44] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[02:44] <themaster369> ok
[02:45] <lorenzo_> Im on windows xp with wubi and ubuntu works well
[02:45] <themaster369> im so happy i found this chat station...ive struggled for weeks on end
[02:45] <SUServMod07> Tasmaniac - yes I just saw the Nero *BurnASBoot* option - thanks a ton for pointing out I forgot to burn it as a boot disc (its early, I'm tired, ehh)
[02:45] <praet> themaster369: I set mine up with dynamic disk sizing (max 30 gb) and simple networking and its a breeze.
[02:45] <cre8torx> what did you struggle with
[02:45] <cre8torx> ?
[02:45] <themaster369> just trying to install ubuntu...i hate windows now..i now move to linux
[02:45] <Pritchard> What's your recommended music player for Linux?
[02:45] <cre8torx> xmms
[02:46] <themaster369> thx preat
[02:46] <lorenzo_> good !
[02:46] <lorenzo_> me too
[02:46] <cre8torx> ubuntu has lots of good players
[02:46] <themaster369> so many bugs and errors..i spend too much time trying to resolve windows errors than getting on with life lol
[02:46] <cre8torx> amarok is sweet
[02:46] <themaster369> ill try virtualbox
[02:47] <Pritchard> So far I've heard of Mplayer being good.
[02:47] <Tasmaniac> SUServMod07, Really the ubuntu distribs dont need deacring ya just burn as is as a disk image in Nero
[02:47] <PKdoR> I found this really cool matrix like font I would like to ins tall and use for my windows title but cant install it can any body help?
[02:47] <cre8torx> over rated
[02:47] <themaster369> is there a chat station on Ubuntu for complete newbies to Linux???
[02:47] <IdleOne> themaster369: this is it
[02:48] <Myrtti> themaster369: you're on it
[02:48] <Tasmaniac> themaster369, your there
[02:48] <cre8torx> your probly could ask any one here what's on your mind
[02:48] <cre8torx> you
[02:48] <clip> does the order of installing php5, mysql and apache2 make any differnce?
[02:48] <themaster369> i see
[02:48] <Tasmaniac> clip yep
[02:48] <IdleOne> !lamp | clip
[02:48] <ubotu> clip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:48] <Tasmaniac> clip from what I found out anyway
[02:48] <cre8torx> I've been using linux for about the past 7 years
[02:49] <themaster369> im trying to get my head around similar processes in windows to ubuntu...the systems are completely different
[02:49] <themaster369> i have seen the guide on ubuntu website for x windows users
[02:49] <themaster369> is there a more detailed guide that anyone has >>?
[02:49] <cre8torx> ubuntu realy is the most eaziest to transform from beeing a windows user i would say
[02:49] <xukun> is it really no possible to burn .vob files from console like it is for .iso files>
[02:50] <xukun> ?
[02:50] <Tasmaniac> I'm still trying to get ubuntu and win2k ads to play nicely
[02:50] <themaster369> cre8torx  have you used linux a long time?
[02:50] <cre8torx> yeah
[02:50] <cre8torx> red hat 5.3
[02:51] <themaster369> i really wanna know how long it will take me to grasp things quickly
[02:51] <cre8torx> i have alot of older distros
[02:51] <Tasmaniac> Merodent next time just rm /*  :P
[02:51] <themaster369> im fast on windows..but linux is a whole new world
[02:51] <cre8torx> write
[02:51] <cre8torx> like learning the commands
[02:51] <themaster369> do you know any good sites cre8torx that could bring my speed up to grasp concepts quick?
[02:51] <cre8torx> like what
[02:52] <cre8torx> what do you want to know
[02:52] <themaster369> lots of things
[02:52] <lewix> how can  my screen saver change automatically and goes on forever instead of showing up for a while and go blank like it's hibernating or something
[02:52] <themaster369> how to install drives
[02:52] <themaster369> format drives
[02:52] <themaster369> download codecs for movie files
[02:52] <cre8torx> that's what this room is for
[02:52] <XiXaQ> themaster369, https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:52] <themaster369> install skins
[02:52] <PKdoR> i just want to know how to install font for now
[02:52] <themaster369> ok
[02:52] <MeRodent> lewix, sounds like your monitor is powering down in sleep mode.
[02:53] <cre8torx> recommending a website might set you in the wrong direction
[02:53] <mjrclark> ubuntuguide.org is ok.
[02:53] <cre8torx> are you using ubuntu
[02:53] <themaster369> sure...i think ill plant all my questions in here
[02:53] <cre8torx> what are you using
[02:53] <themaster369> i am using ubuntu yes
[02:53] <lewix> MeRodent, how can I solve it
[02:53] <cre8torx> install drives
[02:53] <themaster369> on inspiron 5100 laptop
[02:53] <XiXaQ> themaster369, normally Ubuntu will install the needed codecs automatically. You'll find much information on help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com or www.ubuntuforums.com. There are also localized channels called #Ubuntu-xx, where XX refers to your nations two-letter country code. That means, #Ubuntu-us for USA, #Ubuntu-ru for Russia, etc.
[02:54] <MeRodent> themaster369, try adding all your lines into one block of text rather than punctuating with enter. It makes it much more readable for the rest of use especially when the channel starts to really move.
[02:54] <tinin> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:54] <cre8torx> mount
[02:54] <Beauty> hello
[02:54] <themaster369> ok i will try virtualbox to get xp in first
[02:55] <Beauty> good tips-> www.clubsjarel.com
[02:55] <cre8torx> like mnt /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[02:55] <mikubuntu> on the composite ubuntu support page refers to this repository; how do i obtain it? 'deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib'
[02:55] <themaster369> MeRodent I think i am doing that keeping it in block
[02:55] <Pici> mikubuntu: What page refers to that?
[02:55] <themaster369> cre8torx  mnt dev sda1 are all new things for me
[02:55] <cre8torx> more help on linux commands would probly be better availble to you in the room ##linux
[02:56] <themaster369> i am really a complete newb lol
[02:56] <MeRodent> lewix, system/prefs/power management
[02:56] <Bollinger> can i make ubuntu send email sitting in /var/spool/mail/me to my real email address?
[02:56] <cre8torx> ok
[02:56] <XiXaQ> mikubuntu, you can add repositories by using System > Administration > Software Sources or by adding them manually to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:56] <mikubuntu> a page in the community docs about compositing softwares
[02:56] <themaster369> cre8torx can i add you to favourite buddies on here?
[02:56] <npnufn> How can I add my secondary gateway to the network configuration?
[02:56] <mikubuntu> like beryl, compiz, aand compiz fusion
[02:56] <cre8torx> installing manualy
[02:56] <genii> mikubuntu: You add that line to the file /etc/apt/sources.list (you need to do this with admin privelege so something like gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ) then you run sudo apt-get update to add that repo
[02:57] <Jygzy-> how do i recursively count the files?
[02:57] <Pici> mikubuntu: Can you link it to me? I'd be a bit wary on adding debian souces to my ubuntu sources.list.  I'd like to check it myself.
[02:57] <npnufn> jygzy; may be find |wc -l
[02:57] <Beauty> www.clubsjarel.com
[02:57] <IdleOne> Pici: deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian
[02:57] <Kresjah_laptop> Hey! I was hoping someone had time to help me with my freshly installed feisty. My problem is that I can't get the wireless functioning properly. Yup, I have one of those Ralinks.
[02:57] <themaster369> added brb installing virtualbox
[02:57] <XiXaQ> themaster369, you will be surprised to find how helpful the Ubuntu community as a whole is. :)
[02:58] <Pici> IdleOne: Thats safe for Ubuntu??
[02:58] <Jygzy-> npnufn from the current directory i am
[02:58] <Kresjah_laptop> Following the steps of the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=419709 I was able to get it up and running for that session. I added it to /etc/networks/interfaces but it won't start after a reboot
[02:58] <IdleOne> Pici: dont know but I am not big on using non-ubuntu deb's
[02:58] <lewix> MeRodent, I don't see prefs/power management
[02:58] <cre8torx> the best way to figure things out is reading the linux forums google it
[02:58] <themaster369> hope so XiXaq this will be a major change for me. First time away from windows in years about time ill be right back
[02:58] <themaster369> thanks for help
[02:58] <Kresjah_laptop> Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:58] <Pici> IdleOne: me either, thats why I as asking mikubuntu for the community documentation page that suggested that.
[02:58] <Beauty> www.clubsjarel.com
[02:59] <npnufn> find $dirname|wc -l
[02:59] <cre8torx> ls
[02:59] <IdleOne> Pici: oh hehe I misread. thought you wanted that link
[02:59] <Jygzy-> npnufn what if i just put find?
[02:59] <lewix> MeRodent, how about the screesaver . how can I make it switch automatically
[02:59] <npnufn> will show all the files from the current directory.
[02:59] <npnufn> recursively!
[02:59] <Myrtti> Beauty: please stop spamming
[02:59] <Jygzy-> ok
[02:59] <Beauty> sorry
[03:00] <cre8torx> she's probly about
[03:00] <vieirar> I need some help I keep getting an error with device-mapper. I do not use lvm or raid so I would like to shut this down. Problem i on the console the message keeps scrolling so i cannot do anthing
[03:00] <cre8torx> sorry a bot
[03:00] <IdleOne> mikubuntu: where did you get this deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian ???
[03:00] <mikubuntu> XiXaQ: deb http://javadesktop.org/lg3d/debian stable contrib  <----so does this look like the correct line to add to software sources, ezackly as you see it here?
[03:00] <Pici> IdleOne: Looks like here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LookingGlass
[03:00] <MeRodent> lewix, that I'm not sure about.
[03:00] <cre8torx> a bot
[03:00] <npnufn> How can I add my secondary gateway to the network configuration?
[03:01] <vieirar> Error is ..... device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[03:01] <cre8torx> denny will chew you up and spit you out
[03:01] <XiXaQ> mikubuntu, it looks correct, but you should make certain it won't cause problems with Ubuntu before you use it.
[03:01] <npnufn> or can some one tell me which is network channel?
[03:01] <IdleOne> Pici: yeah it is safe I tried that out one time but couldnt run it because of a lack of ram but it didnt break anything on my machine
[03:02] <[nrx] > hi
[03:03] <IdleOne> Pici: of course like anything it is " try at your own risk " <---- mikubuntu
[03:04] <DexterF> what would cause the system not to swap back mem to RAM?
[03:04] <DexterF> got 500meg swapped, 607 cached, hence available
[03:05] <staar2> i have problems with keyboard layout
[03:05] <cre8torx> well you should break it down into 1024 slots
[03:05] <staar2> i cant set the right layout at laptop
[03:05] <cre8torx> make more than one swap
[03:05] <eNtRoPiA> hi
[03:05] <eNtRoPiA> :)
[03:06] <cre8torx> is'nt there a limit on making one large swap
[03:06] <tinin> Hi, what do you use to watch tv on the pc (with a tv capture card), wich program?
[03:06] <extern> after updating Ubuntu, it doesnt boot in normal mode, the screen goes black and the computer gets unresponsive, but in recovery mode, it boots fine and I can enter the graphical mode.
[03:06] <eNtRoPiA> i've a litle problem. i can't compile an opensource software... Visual Molecular dynamic
[03:06] <Terrasque> extern: graphics card?
[03:06] <cre8torx> ok
[03:06] <extern> sapphire x700 pro
[03:06] <JackPhil> where is dvi2bitmap?
[03:07] <IdleOne> !mythtv | tinin
[03:07] <cre8torx> ./config make  su makeinstall
[03:07] <ubotu> tinin: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[03:07] <Terrasque> extern: ah, x700 - known bug
[03:07] <cre8torx> ?
[03:07] <eNtRoPiA> i' use this for rmolecular rendering......
[03:07] <extern> but the graphical mode works fine in recovery mode o.O
[03:07] <extern> is this bug recent?
[03:07] <eNtRoPiA> and when i try to compile i give some errors because the program cant find tcl.h
[03:07] <Terrasque> extern: using tribe, right?
[03:07] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: have you installed build-essential?
[03:07] <cre8torx> edit the config. in your editor of choise
[03:07] <extern> I dont think so
[03:07] <eNtRoPiA> i've installed the dependence...
[03:07] <eNtRoPiA> yes
[03:07] <extern> havent heard about tribe
[03:07] <eNtRoPiA> and build-essential
[03:08] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[03:08] <eNtRoPiA> also tcl8.4
[03:08] <eNtRoPiA> and tcl8.4-dev
[03:08] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: apt-cache search tcl for the proper name of package
[03:08] <eNtRoPiA> and nothing....
[03:08] <IdleOne> hmmm
[03:08] <Terrasque> extern: it shgould be fixed in 7.04 - but because of new upstream it came back in tribe .. 3 i think
[03:08] <extern> what logs can I check out to determine what is going wrong?
[03:08] <sslashes> i am running gusty, and when i reboot, i get the "/bin/ssh: can't access tty: job control turned off" error, but when i do a hard reboot (shutdown, then turn back on), i don't get any error - any ideas?
[03:08] <tinin> IdleOne: thanx, but Mythtv is a very big package, I was jus searching for a small tv viewer
[03:08] <eNtRoPiA> the dependence are this..
[03:09] <eNtRoPiA> netcdfg-dev netcdfg-bin netcdfg-perl libfltk1.1 libfltk1.1-dev tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev
[03:09] <eNtRoPiA> libpthread-dev python python-dev tk8.4 tk8.4-dev
[03:09] <cre8torx> ssh
[03:09] <eNtRoPiA> and i compile the plugins whit the comand make LINUXAMD64 TCLINC="-I/usr/include"
[03:09] <eNtRoPiA> the source code is write also for AMD64 architecture..
[03:09] <Terrasque> extern: if you can, connect via cable in recovery mode, install the ati driver (fglrx), change /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver from ati to fglrx
[03:09] <eNtRoPiA> and i get this error
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> ......
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> In file included from src/hesstrans_wrap.C:298:
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> /usr/include/tcl.h:2315:22: error: tclDecls.h: Nessun file o directory
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> /usr/include/tcl.h:2334:26: error: tclPlatDecls.h: Nessun file o directory
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> .....
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> make[2] : *** [../compile/lib_LINUXAMD64/tcl/hesstrans1.0/hesstrans_wrap.o]  Error 1
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> make[1] : *** [dynlibs]  Error 1
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> make: *** [LINUXAMD64]  Error 2
[03:10] <IdleOne> !paste | eNtRoPiA paste here
[03:10] <ubotu> eNtRoPiA paste here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:10] <[nrx] > dude, pastebin.
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> ok
[03:10] <eNtRoPiA> i paste here..
[03:10] <IdleOne> no no
[03:10] <IdleOne> not here
[03:10] <IdleOne> here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:10] <cre8torx> denny will kill you
[03:11] <Terrasque> extern: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/22985 - i think that was the bug
[03:12] <BartSimpson> hi
[03:12] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: make sure to give us the URL when done pasting
[03:13] <viktor_> can somebody help me? I want to get rit of the error (E: dpkg was interrupted). I cant install or update my system because this error always apears
[03:14] <LjL> viktor_: does it say to try running "apt-get -f install"?
[03:14] <viktor_> no
[03:14] <viktor_> it says:
[03:14] <LjL> !paste
[03:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:15] <viktor_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37685/
[03:15] <ts_> Can someone tell me how to add a line to grub, for a secondary HD with windows xp on it? Thanks
[03:15] <extern> Terrasque, I am running recovery mode in the same computer :P
[03:16] <extern> and the graphical mode seems to be working fine
[03:16] <Terrasque> graphical mode in recovery?
[03:16] <IdleOne> viktor_: run dpkg -configure -a
[03:16] <LjL> viktor_: i'd tell you to try doing what it suggests, but the "E: _cache->open() failed, please report." part sounds bad. one moment please
[03:16] <extern> I ran startx
[03:16] <LjL> IdleOne: look at the second error though
[03:16] <viktor_> oh thanks
[03:16] <phizeek> i ran chmod 750 /home, my homedirs arent writable, .profile isnt readable. can anyone help me fix this.
[03:17] <Kresjah_laptop> I'm having trouble getting the settings for my wireless network to set themselves automatically at ubuntu startup.
[03:17] <Seveas> phizeek, pastebin the output of sudo ls /home
[03:17] <vlt> Does anyone know in which encoding I have to save a plain text file so that a windows user can open it in his editor (notepad)?
[03:17] <viktor_> when i try dpkg --configure -a it says i need to be super user
[03:17] <IdleOne> LjL: not sure what it means but cant hurt to try and --configure -a
[03:17] <speed_> hi guys
[03:17] <eNtRoPiA> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37686/
[03:17] <Seveas> phizeek, oh, btw, /home should be 755, so chmod 755 /home
[03:17] <Terrasque> viktor_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:18] <speed_>  i want to install xgl on my ubuntu
[03:18] <Seveas> phizeek, /home/yourusername can be 750
[03:18] <phizeek> Sevalecan, oh
[03:18] <phizeek> er Seveas *
[03:18] <viktor_> ohhh that looks better
[03:18] <ari_stress> evening
[03:18] <LjL> IdleOne: bug reports also seem to suggest that --configure -a may solve it, so try that please, viktor_ (use  sudo dpkg --configure -a )
[03:19] <viktor_> okay, i did that and it says now that there is a problem with avant-window-navigator
[03:19] <viktor_> i m gonna try to deinstall
[03:19] <ari_stress> hi all, is virtualbox really free? i mean for commercial use?
[03:19] <themaster369> hi all
[03:19] <phizeek> Seveas, i did chmod -R 750 /home/, and then don what you said. .. nothing changed
[03:20] <LjL> ari_stress: there are two version of VirtualBox -- one is free (GPL, so as free as Linux), the other isn't
[03:20] <themaster369> just downloaded virtual box got an error
[03:20] <eNtRoPiA> the program is opensource and u can download the sourcecode after a registration. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Development/Download/download.cgi?PackageName=VMD
[03:20] <ts_> Does anyone know any linux virus scanners for scanning windows viruses? Thanks
[03:20] <phizeek> ah nvm ihavent been to bed
[03:20] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: sorry but I cant help you with that
[03:20] <dgjones> !virus | ts_
[03:20] <ubotu> ts_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:20] <ari_stress> thanks LjL
[03:20] <eNtRoPiA> IdleOne: do u whant all the error?
[03:20] <LjL> ts_: there is f-prot and clamav that i know of
[03:20] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: might help
[03:20] <genii> dgjones: I think he wants to scan windows files from inside linux
[03:20] <themaster369> Error:Dependency is not satisfiable:libxalan110
[03:20] <dgjones> !antivirus | ts_
[03:20] <ubotu> ts_: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[03:21] <belgarath_> Anyone know where and when  'nautilus' starts on boot ???
[03:21] <jrib> themaster369: what are you trying to install and how?
[03:21] <dgjones> genii, yep, i realised it was the wrong factoid - the 1st one doesn't mention any specific scanners
[03:21] <viktor_> mmmh i cant find it... when im trying to delete it
[03:21] <themaster369> trying to install virtualbox
[03:21] <ts_> dgjones:  yes I know there are no viruses for linux, that's why I'm trying to find a virus scanner for WINDOWS VIRUSES that runs on linux.
[03:21] <jrib> belgarath_: it draws the icons on your desktop, so when you login
[03:21] <themaster369> i just downloaded it
[03:21] <eNtRoPiA> k waith a few seconds...
[03:21] <cre8torx> hello
[03:21] <jrib> themaster369: you need to enable universe in system -> administration -> software sources
[03:21] <extern> ok, this may help a bit: when booting in normal mode, the screen goes black and the computer gets unresponsive a few seconds after the text Direct mapping kernel <some memory addresses> appears
[03:21] <belgarath_> jrib...    Yes I know :)
[03:22] <Seveas> vlt, any encoding will do, you just have to write windows-styule newlines. The progtam unix2dos (package: tofrodos) can help you convert files
[03:22] <dgjones> ts_, see ubotu's 2nd link i sent, thats names a couple
[03:22] <extern> but the same version of kernel, recovery mode, boots fine
[03:22] <belgarath_> jrib I want to renice nautilus everytime I boot
[03:22] <extern> I may try the older kernel version
[03:22] <IdleOne> eNtRoPiA: paste entire error and give the channel url... I have to run good luck
[03:22] <Xteven> does anyone know how to search ldap addressbooks in evolution ?
[03:22] <panosru> How can i overwrite the files under /usr/lib/eclipse ? i downloaded Eclipse Europa on my desktop and i want it to be at /usr/lib/eclipse there where my old Eclipse 3.2 was
[03:22] <jrib> !universe > themaster369 (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:23] <themaster369> im in sofware sources but do not see universe
[03:23] <jrib> themaster369: should be in the first tab, in parentheses
[03:23] <belgarath_> jrib    - If renice like this:  renice -5 [pidof -s nautilus]    you get a much more responsive system
[03:23] <jrib> themaster369: by the way, make sure you install virtualbox in the terminal with 'sudo dpkg -i' or installation will fail
[03:24] <nooga> #ubuntu-effects seems to be dead atm, could anyone here help me with AIXGL/Compiz?
[03:24] <Tominator> hi! I'm trying to mute my Surround Control (rear with Creative Live! 5.1) with amixer, but it doesn't work!
[03:24] <Tominator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37614/
[03:24] <Tominator> it works with Master and PCE but not with Center, LFE and Surround
[03:24] <Tominator> Volume decrease and increase does work, but not mute/unmute... why?
[03:24] <themaster369> oh ok ill try that way of installing, new had a new error trying to install repositories part of ubunut updates i imagine
[03:25] <themaster369> had it before it does 42 out 45 then rest fail
[03:25] <USMarine> is nowadays httpd.conf empty?
[03:25] <themaster369> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:25] <belgarath_> anyone got a suggestion how to renice 'Nautilus' everytime you boot the system  ???   (( renice -5 [pidof -s nautilus] ))
[03:25] <jrib> belgarath_: I can think of a couple of hacky ways for you to accomplish that, but no "nice" ways.  hacky way #1: start a script that checks if nautilus is running every second until it is, then renices it and exits
[03:25] <jrib> USMarine: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf is where stuff goes now
[03:26] <USMarine> thanks jrib
[03:26] <themaster369> ill try the sudo way jrib thanks..brb
[03:26] <belgarath_> jrib ..  there is no /etc/rc.local thing on ubuntu ???
[03:26] <LjL> belgarath_: there is on my box
[03:26] <cp1134> anyone have a link that discusses getting a monitor working on my laptops vga port?
[03:26] <jrib> belgarath_: that wouldn't work because nautilus isn't running yet right?
[03:27] <belgarath_> jrib ... yeah ... right  :D
[03:27] <LjL> belgarath_: maybe there isn't by default in Feisty, not sure. you can always created though, i'm sure it will be executed
[03:27] <cp1134> it is on when the computer boots, but then when gdm starts up it switches back to the built in monitor
[03:27] <Lyv> nooga: what graphics card do you have?
[03:27] <doug_> how do i make my ntfs where its writeable and readable right nowits just readable but no writeable
[03:27] <xukun> is there something like k3b for gnome?
[03:27] <stewski> my upgrade to 7.04 fails every time any ideas
[03:27] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > doug_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:27] <vlt> Seveas: Thank you. I tried 3 different encodings: iso8859-15, utf8 and cp1252. Then I sent it to the windows user as mail attachment. All three failed to open correct in notepad.exe. Then I saved it in a dir accessable by the windows machine via smb -- and there it works. Weird. Maybe his Outlook mangled something when interpreting the mail encoding ...
[03:27] <Lyv> doug_: search in synaptic for ntfs it should find a program that helps you with that
[03:28] <themaster369> i typed exactly that sudo dpkg -i
[03:28] <belgarath_> LjL..... ok..  I need a some sort of /etc/X11/rc.local with superuser rights... :)
[03:28] <jrib> themaster369: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of 'sudo apt-get update' please
[03:28] <jrib> !pastebin > themaster369 (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:28] <dgjones> xukun, k3b will install under gnome with problems, or i think the default for gnome is gnomebaker
[03:28] <themaster369> pastebin? dont know what that is
[03:28] <dgjones> xukun, that should say install with no problems
[03:28] <nooga> Lyv: geForce 4 440MX
[03:28] <LjL> belgarath_, /etc/rc.local *is* executed with superuser rights. what do you mean with the "X11" part? should the commands be executed inside an X server?
[03:28] <jrib> themaster369: check out the private message ubotu just sent you
[03:28] <LjL> !paste > themaster369    (themaster369, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:28] <Lyv> nooga: what guide/how to have you followed?
[03:29] <Lyv> nooga: what exactly is your problem?
[03:29] <Knight_On_White> i am now using mIRC on windows xp , i would like to know if there is same IRC software for ubuntu ?
[03:29] <stewski> is there a way to do an inplace upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 using the iso disc
[03:29] <xukun> dgjones, I know but would it install all kind of kde staff?
[03:29] <lorenzo_> hello,  do you know a tools to see the cpu temperature
[03:29] <clip> i just unpacked a tar.bz2 archive, and when i want to cd to the new folder i get the message: permission denied?!
[03:29] <jrib> !ugrade > stewski (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:29] <LjL> !info lm-sensors | lorenzo_
[03:29] <ubotu> lorenzo_: lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.1-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 489 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[03:29] <LjL> !permissions > clip    (clip, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:29] <nooga> Lyv: theese https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager for AIXGL and Compiz-fusion for edgy
[03:29] <jrib> stewski: yes, but you need the alternate cd.  The wiki page /should/ cover it.  If not, ping me
[03:29] <Tasmaniac> Knight_On_White, XChat
[03:30] <Lyv> nooga: Ok, what's wrong?
[03:30] <LjL> clip: try "sudo chown -R your-username directory/"
[03:30] <lorenzo_> thanks
[03:30] <belgarath_> LjL  yep..  jrib told me that I need a script that waits to the process "natilius" starts and then perform my renice..
[03:30] <osfameron> Knight_On_White: or go retro and use irssi :-) (but xchat is quite nice, and easy to set up too)
 : thanks for your help
[03:31] <nooga> Lyv: when i try to run compiz --replace, gnome panel, icons and window borders disappear + i can't click and use keyboard
[03:31] <Tasmaniac> Only prob is Xchat ubuntu isnt as nice as xchat win
[03:31] <RAdams> Netscape Navigator is NOT open-source, correct?
[03:31] <Lyv> nooga: hang on a sec i'll try and find a better place with info for you
[03:31] <nooga> ok
[03:31] <LjL> belgarath_: you want to give nautilus a specific nice value? why not just start it with the value you want? i use KDE, but i suppose it's started by some script that's run by GDM.
[03:32] <tim167> hello, I have an external cdrw/dvdr drive that won't show up in browser. k3b shows error: "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device", lsusb shows the cdrw at : "Bus 004 Device 010: ID 046e:300f Behavior Tech. Computer Corp", can anyone help me ? thanks
[03:32] <belgarath_> LjL  do you now hot to perform that ?!
[03:32] <themaster369> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37688/
[03:32] <MeRodent> Tasmaniac, that's a load of crap. :) xChat is much nicer on ubuntu.
[03:32] <themaster369> jrib is this correct ???
[03:32] <panosru> how can i make /usr/lib/eclipse writable??
[03:32] <RAdams> tim167: please post your /etc/fstab to pastebin.org
[03:32] <themaster369> btw thats cool way of getting large txt across
[03:33] <jrib> themaster369: join me in #ubuntu-classroom please
[03:33] <tim167> RAdams: coming up...
[03:33] <clip> Ljl: can i somehow unpack it, without making any permissions. i always unpacked archives and could enter the folder!?
[03:33] <LjL> belgarath_: no, not precisely. what i would do (to spare me the trouble of finding out the right way) is to add a crontab entry that renices nautilus every, say, 5 minutes
[03:33] <Lyv> nooga: have you checked your drivers?
[03:33] <lorenzo_> I just installed lm-sensor with apt-get but I cant fint it now..
[03:33] <panosru> how can i make /usr/lib/eclipse writable??
[03:33] <belgarath_> LjL ... hehe ... that will work!
[03:33] <LjL> clip: that is usually the case. i don't know why you can't access it. can you access it after the command i gave you?
[03:33] <LjL> lorenzo_: type "sudo sensors-detect"
[03:33] <themaster369> ok..just learnt about irc..give me a sec..ill try and connect
[03:33] <belgarath_> LjL -... and I know how to perform it :)    Thx!
[03:34] <jrib> themaster369: just do:  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[03:34] <nooga> Lyv: i've got that nvidia splash at startup
[03:34] <clip> Ljl: what command?
[03:34] <eNtRoPiA> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37689/
[03:34] <LjL> clip: chown -R your-username directory-where-the-tar-was-extracted/
[03:34] <clip> lets see
[03:34] <RAdams> panosru: sudo chmod 777 /usr/lib/eclipse will give full permissions to all users, or you can set lower permissions if needed. It's more secure to write to that directory as root though, rather than chmod'ing it
[03:34] <LjL> clip: actually, "sudo chown ...:"
[03:35] <eNtRoPiA> excuse my  delay
[03:35] <panosru> RAdams, i tried that but didn't word.. do i have to reboot first?
[03:35] <LjL> RAdams, panosru: not only it is more secure: stuff in /usr (unless it's /usr/local) should *never* be touched manually, as APT relies on it being its own realm
[03:36] <tim167> RAdams: here's my /etc/fstab http://www.pastebin.org/2602 (my question was how to get external cdrw working)
[03:36] <ts_> How do I run a program under root (or sudo)?.. I have two anti virus scanners that need it. Thanks.
[03:36] <clip> Ljl: sweet, it worked. what does the command chown do?
[03:36] <rm130> what was that site to show how to use sockwave on firefox again?
[03:36] <LjL> !sudo > ts_    (ts_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:36] <rm130> I mean on ubuntu, firefox using wine
[03:36] <Leon_home> hello, i need some help please, i am trying to install xampp for linux , after i extract the archive & run i get msg : XAMPP is currently only availably as 32 bit application. Please use a 32 bit compatibility library for your system. ??
[03:36] <LjL> clip: CHange the OWNer of a file (or directory)
[03:36] <clip> thxy
[03:36] <Lyv> nooga: do you know that they are working, ie have you used 3d graphics etc on ubuntu on a game or something?
[03:36] <ts_> LjL:  Right, so I do sudo *program name*.. but how do I find the programs path and excution file?
[03:36] <RAdams> panosru: no. why don't you just launch a session of nautilus as root? run "gksu nautilus /"
[03:36] <lorenzo_> how can I copy the terminal root history to my user history
[03:37] <LjL> ts_: that's another question. if you know the name of the package, type "dpkg -L packagename | grep bin"
[03:37] <LjL> lorenzo_: sudo cp /root/.bash_history ~/.bash_history - but... why?
[03:38] <Lyv> nooga: basically we need to establish the problem is with your compiz and not with any other part that compiz may need
[03:38] <ts_> Package `virus scanner' is not installed.
[03:38] <ts_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:38] <ts_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[03:38] <panosru> RAdams, thanks man!!! i didn't know that!!! (ex-windows user here!! :P)
[03:38] <LjL> ts_, the package is certainly not called "virus scanner"
[03:38] <RAdams> lorenzo_: having that history will not give you access to those commands. you'll still have to be root
[03:38] <LjL> ts_: *which* virus scanner is that?
[03:38] <nooga> Lyv: sec, let me check
[03:38] <ts_> LjL: it's the clamav
[03:38] <tim167> Hi all, I am trying to get my external cdrw mounted and working, i get 'Cdwriter has no permission to open the device' from K3b, here's my /etc/fstab http://www.pastebin.org/2603
[03:38] <RAdams> panosaru: np
[03:39] <LjL> ts_, then you need to type "dpkg -L clamav | grep bin"
[03:39] <lorenzo_> ok thats right :)
[03:39] <RAdams> tim167: make sure you are a member of the CDROM group
[03:39] <LjL> ts_: it will show all the executable files contained in the "clamav" package
[03:39] <nooga> Lyv: yea, GL screensavers and some3d games work smoothly
[03:39] <tim167> RAdams, how do i become a memner of that group ?
[03:39] <viktor_> i solved my problem. Thank you guys anyways
[03:40] <LjL> tim167: "sudo adduser your-username cdrom"
[03:40] <Kimy> ss
[03:40] <RAdams> tim167: yes, but verify that group name. I'm on winblows atm
[03:40] <ts_> ts@ts-desktop:~$ dpkg -L clamav | grep bin
[03:40] <ts_> /usr/bin
[03:40] <ts_> /usr/bin/clamscan
[03:40] <ts_> /usr/bin/sigtool
[03:40] <Pici> ts_: If you want a graphical front end to clamav, install clamtk
[03:40] <tim167> `tim' is already a member of `cdromRAdams
[03:40] <Lyv> nooga: ok, that's sorted then, now are you trying with aiglx?
[03:40] <Leon_home> hello, i need some help please, i am trying to install xampp for linux , after i extract the archive & run i get msg : XAMPP is currently only availably as 32 bit application. Please use a 32 bit compatibility library for your system. what is the problem ?
[03:40] <LjL> ts_: i guess you want "clamscan". (please user the pastebin next time)
[03:40] <ts_> tim167:  it is the graphical version. but i need to be root to be able to update it
[03:40] <LjL> s/user/use/
[03:41] <ts_> ts@ts-desktop:~$ dpkg -L clamscan | grep bin
[03:41] <ts_> Package `clamscan' is not installed.
[03:41] <ts_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:41] <ts_> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[03:41] <Lyv> nooga: btw just to make sure: Go to System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager and enable the nvidia driver.
[03:41] <jrib> ts_: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[03:41] <nooga> Lyv: tried to enable it using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnEdgy guide
[03:41] <Lyv> nooga: that's enabled, right?
[03:42] <LjL> ts_, no, i meant to say that /usr/bin/clamscan (which is from the output of the PREVIOUS command) is probably the file that you want to run with "sudo"
[03:42] <nooga> Lyv: yup, enabled
[03:42] <RAdams> tim167: what are the permissions of the folder where your cdrom is mounting, and who owns it?
[03:42] <Lyv> nooga: what happens when you: Go to System->Preferences->Desktop Effects, click the 'Enable Desktop Effects' button?
[03:42] <tim167> RAdams, i cannot see any mount in the filebrowser
[03:42] <LjL> ts_: type "man clamscan" for instructions on how to use it
[03:42] <tim167> RAdams, for the CDROM i mean....
[03:42] <dgjones> xukun, sorry was away form the computer then, if you install k3b, it does install some kde libraries, but doesn't install the kde desktop if thas what you meant
[03:43] <RAdams> tim167: sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[03:43] <nooga> Lyv: window borders, icons and gnome panel disappear
[03:43] <Lyv> nooga: ok, reinstall compiz
[03:43] <tim167> RAdams,  mount: No medium found
[03:43] <RAdams> tim167: sounds like a driver issue. Has this cdrom ever worked for you in linux?
[03:44] <xukun> dgjones, yes but I,m always afraid that if install kde staff it eventually slow things down
[03:44] <nooga> Lyv: how?
[03:44] <dgjones> xukun, i use k3b on gnome and haven't noticed any particular slowdown
[03:44] <tim167> RAdams, nope
[03:44] <LjL> Leon_home: the problem is that you have installed the 64 bit version of Ubuntu. 64 bit isn't supported by all programs. you'll also have trouble with Flash, for instance. install the 32 bit version if you want to avoid that.
[03:45] <Lyv> nooga: either synaptic or apt-get/aptitude whatever you feel comfortable with
[03:45] <Lyv> nooga: after you do that i'd say follow this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/compiz-and-nvidia-on-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[03:45] <Leon_home> there is away to run this software with the 64 bit version ?
[03:45] <panosru> RAdams, I have installed, Eclipse 3.2 through Applications -> Add/Remove and i have also downloaded new Eclipse 3.3 to Desktop, if i take new eclipse and overwrite the old one, i won't have any problem, will i?
[03:46] <xukun> dgjones, ok thanks
[03:46] <nooga> Lyv: but i've got edgy ;)
[03:46] <RAdams> nooga: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[03:47] <Lyv> nooga: woops, ok try : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/EyeCandy
[03:47] <tim167> RAdams, so should i put the cdrw in the garbage ? or is there a way to get it working on linux ?
[03:48] <RAdams> panosaru: hard to say, but usually no. why don't you just update it through synaptic, or is 3.2 newer than the one in the ubuntu repositories?
[03:48] <RAdams> tim167: report it on launchpad
[03:48] <[UPG] Pritchard> I'm having trouble using the update manager.
[03:48] <RAdams> tim167: include your troubleshooting steps, and also post in the hardware section of the forum. search first.
[03:48] <RAdams> someone might be able to help you with a driver
[03:49] <Leon_home> does it possible to run 32 bit software on 64 bit platform ?
[03:49] <RAdams> leon_home: yes
[03:49] <nooga> Lyv: so i should follow the instructions for AIXGL/Beryl or rather XGL/Compiz? I've heard that Beryl is worse than Compiz-fusion
[03:49] <Leon_home> RAdams : how can i do that ?
[03:49] <[UPG] Pritchard> Here's the error message I'm getting:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:49] <RAdams> nooga: compiz-fusion is what beryl has become
[03:49] <tim167> RAdams, unfortunately i have no time for that now...too bad, another peice of hw that i cant use outside of windoze :(
[03:49] <khamael> is there a howto for running win and linux in a dualboot, when ubuntu is ins
[03:49] <RAdams> tim167: :\
[03:49] <Lyv> nooga: ok, maybe you should have a small read about them on wikipedia just to know what each is
[03:50] <khamael> is there a howto for running win and linux in a dualboot, when ubuntu is installed before windows xp?
[03:50] <dgjones> !dualboot | khamael
[03:50] <ubotu> khamael: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[03:50] <[UPG] Pritchard> Does anyone know why I would be getting that error messages?  The rest of my packages are updating just fine
[03:50] <nooga> okay
[03:50] <Lyv> nooga: it'll also help for you to know what exactly you are looking for
[03:50] <Stokesy> anyone know some good free burn-in test programs
[03:50] <khamael> sorry for doublepost
[03:50] <Lyv> nooga: you can also google for screenshots etc etc
[03:51] <khamael> dgjones: does that apply for winxp as well?
[03:51] <amio> hi
[03:52] <amio> can I get an answer for a question?
[03:52] <Leon_home> does someone know software like XAMPP that's support UBuntu 64 bit platform ?
[03:52] <rm130> I need some help running firefox under wine
[03:52] <ompaul> !wine | rm130
[03:52] <ubotu> rm130: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:52] <ompaul> !ask amio
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask amio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <ompaul> !ask|  amio
[03:53] <ubotu> amio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:53] <Tasmaniac> amio depends if you ask the question
[03:53] <rm130> ompaul, I know I have it
[03:53] <amio> when some one wants to install ubuntu on a pc there will be 2 choices one partition install normal which I think is EVS and second choice with LVM
[03:53] <autodidakt> hi, i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has do be someting in xorg.conf ?
[03:53] <rm130> but when I launch firefox I can't configure proxy
[03:53] <[nrx] > gah. friggen mp3s
[03:53] <rm130> it doesn't show the button
[03:53] <amio> which is better?
[03:53] <nooga> Lyv: ok, let me restart gdm and see what happens :)
[03:53] <Lyv> nooga: ok, fingers crossed
[03:54] <[UPG] Pritchard> No one knows what could be the problem?  The URL in 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)' that I get from the Update Manager is valid, and all my other packages update just fine.
[03:54] <autodidakt> do=to ^
[03:54] <ompaul> rm130, so after that it is wine support which I think is #winehq
[03:54] <rm130> k th x
[03:55] <amio> any one can answer me please? which is better LVM or EVS?
[03:55] <MortChill> hi, ive got a problem
[03:55] <autodidakt> hi, i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has to be someting in xorg.conf ?
[03:55] <genii> !best
[03:55] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:55] <xukun> !k3b
[03:55] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[03:56] <dgjones> khamael, i've not dual booted for a while, when i did, i had win XP installed first, then installed ubuntu and that detected windows and added the appropriate lines to grub so that it'd dual boot with no problems
[03:56] <MortChill> in my firefox i cant watch some videos, the divx ones, however ive installed divx but it doesnt seem to work
[03:56] <MortChill> i only get sound with those
[03:56] <nooga> Lyv: installed compiz again and it's the same
[03:56] <khamael> dgjones: ok. I need to do it the other way around
[03:56] <jrib> MortChill: what plugin are you using?
[03:56] <ivanbili> when I try to reboot, the video card doesn't get recognised
[03:57] <MortChill> the vlc one
[03:57] <nooga> btw. when i followed that AIXGL guide, xinit complained: "No Screens Found" so i had to get back to old xorg.conf
[03:57] <ivanbili> I installed some nvidia drivers
[03:57] <dgjones> !grub | khamael, you can install windows after you've done ubuntu, and then use this to reinstall grub
[03:57] <ubotu> khamael, you can install windows after you've done ubuntu, and then use this to reinstall grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:57] <khamael> dgjones: I found a usefull link. you may want to add it tot the list; http://apcmag.com/node/5162/
[03:57] <ivanbili> and when I restarted, it doesn't recognize the video card
[03:58] <nooga> Lyv: maybe i should dist-upgrade to feisty and then just enable compiz in the easy way :D?
[03:58] <ivanbili> a friend told me to use my old xorg.conf
[03:58] <frank_> ciao
[03:58] <orkid1> Does anyone know why my serial mouse doesn't work?
[03:58] <ivanbili> how do I do that?
[03:58] <orkid1> cat /dev/ttyS0 doesn't show anything when I move the mouse. What gives?
[03:58] <amio> I have question about LVM and EVS which is better? EVS as I know makes swap which is double ram and ext3 the rest of disk, and LVM makes ext3 something like 250 mb and rest lvm
[03:59] <ompaul> !best | amio
[03:59] <ubotu> amio: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:59] <boxubi>  what does is mean when you have an item listed on craigslist and someone in your city posts the same item (with the picture you took) onto eBay -- before I even sold it?
[03:59] <amio> I am using beryl ubotu
[03:59] <Pici> !bot | amio
[03:59] <ubotu> amio: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:59] <amio> so what is better?
[03:59] <jimcooncat> how to I keep trying an ssh connection? like a command-line loop
[04:00] <ompaul> boxubi, consult a lawyer have a nice day your offtopic
[04:00] <jo_> hi there.. is it possible to automatically create a tunnel, remap some hostnames in /etc/hosts and some mounts in /etc/fstab, based on some kind of environment detection? (subnet mask, ethernet connection present, etc.)
[04:00] <Flats> Hello I am having a problem with networking.  I install 7.04 and the network was fine.  After a reboot however I can ping my local router but can't connect to anything.  I can't even connect to my router.  However, I run vmplayer and when I bring up my win2K VM I can connect fine.  I know all the networking is set right, it just seems something is wrong in my browsers.  I have tried with IE6, Firefox and opera.  All I get is cannot connect
[04:00] <Pici> boxubi: This is the Ubuntu support channel, perhaps we can help you in #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[04:00] <ompaul> amio, you have been told YOU CHOOSE
[04:01] <doug_> how do i install the art manager for feisty?
[04:01] <jrib> jimcooncat: a while loop
[04:01] <jimcooncat> amio, lvm or evms is the question?
[04:01] <jimcooncat> thanks jrib I'd forgotten
[04:01] <genii> MortChill: There seems quite a bit about that here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491592&highlight=divx
[04:01] <jrib> jimcooncat: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_02.html
[04:01] <amio> yes
[04:01] <amio> jimcooncat YES
[04:02] <amio> better for beryl
[04:02] <jrib> jimcooncat: I'd recommend putting a 'sleep' in the loop so you wait a little between tries
[04:02] <vibhor> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 along with some packages i need on one of the nodes of my cluster, i want to copy the same configurations to the rest of the nodes. Please help me out on what to do?
[04:02] <jimcooncat> amio: as far as I know, lvm is included in evms. for me, lvm was simpler to figure out. Have no idea why beryl is important to this, though -- it's disk access
[04:03] <jforman> hey all, i am looking for an ics-friendly calendaring program that installs cleanly with ubuntu. other than evolution. any ideas?
[04:03] <amio> just the think is LVM has ext3 with little amount of space
[04:03] <amio> like swap
[04:03] <amio> and the rest lvm
[04:03] <amio> I see that my pc is runing slower
[04:03] <Pici> !enter | amio
[04:03] <ubotu> amio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:03] <amio> specially while installing programs
[04:04] <Romina> hi
[04:04] <Romina> war vorher da wegen der Webcam
[04:04] <Romina> hab die Cam nun zum laufen gebracht mit UVC
[04:04] <Romina> Siehe:
[04:04] <Romina> http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Linux+UVC
[04:04] <dennda> which installer has OEM mode installation`? deskltop or alternate?
[04:04] <Romina> damit luft sie nun in  lucview
[04:05] <genii> dennda: alernate
[04:05] <Romina> ABER:   Wenn ich auf die Seite   http://www.testmycam.com/   gehe,   sehe ich nur ein schwarzes Bild
[04:05] <Romina> was kann ich tun?
[04:05] <genii> *alternate    even
[04:05] <Pici> stewski: Can you please turn off your now-playing script for this channel.
[04:05] <amio> just my real question is with LVM is the ext3 working as swap in EVS?
[04:05] <Pici> !de | Romina
[04:05] <ubotu> Romina: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:05] <dennda> !de | Romina
[04:05] <dennda> thx
[04:06] <jimcooncat> jrib: " while true; do sleep 60 & ssh 10.0.0.200; done" seems to be working fine. thanks a lot
[04:06] <jrib> jimcooncat: hmm, && instead of & maybe?
[04:07] <stewski> PICI human error typed my message in the wrong chat box sorry :-)
[04:07] <savvas> is it possible to install flash using alien on x64?
[04:07] <amio> any one can answer me please? does the ext3 in lvm works like swap in EVS?
[04:07] <jrib> !flash > savvas (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:07] <Pici> stewski: No.
[04:07] <jrib> savvas: no, you want to look into nspluginwrapper (see ubotu's link)
[04:08] <Pici> jrib: iirc, !flash doesnt contain the information needed for 64bit installation, !flash64 does.
[04:08] <joni> umm hi im mr MUSCLE!!!
[04:08] <rediz_> trying to connect to net on netgear wireless usb dongle. box is seeing it. i've followed basic procedure. put in web key but it wont connect.any help would be much welcome
[04:08] <joni> SUCK MY COCK
[04:08] <prana> savvas yes you can install flahs player with alien
[04:08] <jrib> Pici: the wiki page on flash links to it (and includes info on nspluginwrapper which the flash64 doesn't) iirc
[04:09] <joni> i
[04:09] <joni> SUCK MY BIG ASS
[04:09] <jimcooncat> jrib oops! && it is
[04:09] <joni> im paskahousu
[04:09] <joni> vagin
[04:09] <jrib> !fi | joni
[04:09] <ubotu> joni: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[04:10] <genii> jrib thanks
[04:10] <amio> I hame another question? any program I can install can resize partitions on my pc? when I use the partition editor I see that ext3 is locked and I can not resize it its just 200 mb though I want to make it more big to make pc work more fast if possible
[04:10] <amio> have
[04:10] <savvas> prana: for amd64 version?
[04:10] <prana> yes
[04:10] <ivanbili> can I somehow access my mp3 files on my windows partition?
[04:10] <savvas> jrib: thanks btw
[04:10] <jrib> !ntfs > ivanbili (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:10] <savvas> prana: without having to install 32-bit firefox? :)
[04:11] <Seveas> amio, you can't resize partitions that are mounted
[04:12] <prana> savvas yes you will get step by step guide here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox_.2864-bit.29
[04:12] <savvas> prana: hm.. i missed that, thanks :)
[04:12] <jrib> Pici: argh, someone removed the nspluginwrapper info, but the flash page does link to the page given in !flash64
[04:12] <amio> seveas this means I need to reformat the pc?
[04:13] <Seveas> amio, no, it means you need to grab the gparted live cd (google for it) and use that for booting
[04:13] <aguitel> anyone have sony vaio pcg-frv laptop ?
[04:13] <Juhaz> or if the partition in question is one you can unmount, just do that
[04:13] <amio> seveas I dont understand what you mean? can you explain to me please with more details?
[04:14] <amio> I am new to linux though
[04:15] <Seveas> amio, download the gparted live cd (you can find it with google) and start your machine with that cd in the cd drive. You can then find gparted on that system with which you can resize
[04:16] <lerio> guys pls help i got problems on my feisty during boot up i see blank screen
[04:16] <lerio> guys pls help i got problems on my feisty during boot up i see blank screen
[04:16] <ompaul> !bootoptions | lerio
[04:16] <ubotu> lerio: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[04:16] <ompaul> !repeat | lerio
[04:16] <ubotu> lerio: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:16] <amio> seveas is there any other way? I dont have a cd rw here
[04:17] <lerio> ok
[04:17] <Seveas> no
[04:17] <ompaul> amio, he has given you they way - go get yourself a 20c cd :)
[04:17] <amio> ompul I have CD's but the machine doesnt write is it clear now?
[04:18] <aguitel> anyone have sony vaio pcg-frv laptop ?
[04:18] <tatters> i been using apt-cacher which stores all packages downloaded by clients on my home LAN to save bandiwth, however
[04:18] <jo_> ivanbili: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=585
[04:20] <amio> any way to resize partitions without CD?
[04:20] <amio> just by normal program?
[04:20] <tatters> yes use pxe network boot annd run gparted
[04:21] <Pici> amio: Did you install with a LiveCD?  Do you have it?
[04:21] <lerio> ompaul, i only see black screen during boot up in feisty but i know everything works fine bcoz i can logon..but my concern is that i cannot see the loading to monitor everything in my computer
[04:21] <Leon_home> how can i gain a root access on the file browser ?
[04:21] <amio> tatters if it might work from the internet. then I can not my connection is such bad that I need to set it up manually from the operating system
[04:21] <amio> I have the text install CD
[04:22] <dgjones> amio, gparted can be installed onto a usb stick as a liveusb stick http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php
[04:22] <aguitel> anyone kow how to install driver for ati radeon (old laptop) ?
[04:23] <dgjones> !ati | aguitel
[04:23] <ubotu> aguitel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:23] <Wipster> hey all, quick question realy I use teamspeak and it defaults to /dev/dsp now the problem is that ubuntu sometimes decides to do things in another order and I have to change the dsp to 0 or 1 to get it to work again, anyway of locking my soundcard to /dev/dsp, I have done the asound set-default-card thing to stop ubuntu's sound being randomly switched
[04:23] <amio> unfortunatly I just have pc nothing else with it no usb no cd rw no good network
[04:23] <ompaul> lerio, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and change "splash" to "nosplash" at the end of each line starting with the word kernel
[04:24] <Leon_home> does it possible to get root access on graphic mode ? (file browser) ?
[04:25] <valehru> Hey guys, how is the evolution import function doing these days?  Can it import pst files yet?
[04:25] <tatters> sudo whateveryourfilebrowseriscalled
[04:26] <Leon_home> tatters: i have ubuntu 7.04 64 bit ?
[04:26] <clip> !mysql | clip
[04:26] <genii> tatters: sudo messes up some gui setttings
[04:26] <Leon_home> lol
[04:26] <genii> Leon_home: gnome: gksudo <appname>     kde: kdesu <appname>
[04:27] <Pici> !gksudo | tatters
[04:27] <ubotu> tatters: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[04:27] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[04:27] <genii> pici: thanks
[04:27] <[nrx] > folks, after reading up all the literature i can find on mp3/codecs etc, i can't get any audio apps to playback mp3 files on here. I've installed all te gtreamer packages but i'm still having no luck. the urls from ubotu haven't helped me either. any ideas? :)
[04:27] <marlun> When I went to "Go > Network > Windows Network" I usually got the workgroup and then my windows computer, but when I try now I get nothing. What could be wrong?
[04:27] <dstanfie> #ubuntu-dc
[04:28] <mosno> howcome pidstat was stripped out of sysstat package in Feisty?
[04:28] <ratpoison> hello! I use gutsy alpha 5 amd64 and I have encountered a problem installing the nfs-common packages. http://pastebin.com/m7a498c7c
[04:28] <genii> ratpoison: #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <[nrx] > !gutsy | ratpoison
[04:29] <ubotu> ratpoison: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <ratpoison> sry, didn't know that!
[04:29] <Wipster> is it mid october?
[04:30] <Pici> Wipster: Alpha builds are available for those people who are gutsy enough to run them, thats what that channel is for.
[04:30] <mrjones> hey can sombody help me with my bluetooth dongle? i can connect it via usb, but when i use an adapter to ps2 it wont work (not enough usb ports)
[04:32] <[nrx] > folks, after reading up all the literature i can find on mp3/codecs etc, i can't get any audio apps to playback mp3 files on here. I've installed all te gtreamer packages but i'm still having no luck. the urls from ubotu haven't helped me either. any ideas? :)
[04:32] <erUSUL> valehru: there are plenty of tools that convert pst to mbox after that you can import the mbox into evolution
[04:32] <panosru> Is it possible to transfer current system to an other disk?
[04:32] <voLtaGe`> need help, how to uninstall utorrent or any software in ubuntu????
[04:33] <rediz_> how do i run wirless assistanct in sudo mode
[04:33] <genii> voLtaGe`: Use aptitude package manager to uninstall. Or by command line, sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
[04:34] <valehru> erUSUL, thanks
[04:34] <ex_> Anybody help me connect my Linux machine to my windows workgroup?
[04:34] <voLtaGe`> ok but idk wha the package of uttorent would be
[04:34] <Lyv> does anybody know how to install grid wars?
[04:34] <ex_> I editted the smb.conf file to my workgroup name, but i still cant join i
[04:34] <krammer> sudo apt-get install gridwars
[04:35] <erUSUL> !samba | ex_
[04:35] <ubotu> ex_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:35] <prana> ex_ try installing webmin, you can configure samba and others very easily
[04:35] <erUSUL> !webmin | prana
[04:35] <ubotu> prana: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[04:35] <clop> can i upgrade from feisty to gutsy somehow?  (im on x86-64)
[04:35] <Lyv> krammer: Reading package lists... Done
[04:35] <Lyv> Building dependency tree
[04:35] <Lyv> Reading state information... Done
[04:35] <Lyv> E: Couldn't find package gridwars
[04:35] <tatters> Pici: I only ever used sudo never gksudo, been using linux for a few months and bnot had problem using sudo konquoror, but, an interesting link and thnx for info, the article says kate does not work with sudo kate yet I have no problems editing files with sudo kate .
[04:36] <erUSUL> !upgrade | clop
[04:36] <ubotu> clop: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:36] <Pici> !paste | Lyv
[04:36] <ubotu> Lyv: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:36] <clop> thanks!
[04:36] <prana> erUSUL it is in web interface administration tool
[04:36] <ompaul> [nrx] , have you any audio at all?
[04:36] <Lyv> Pici: sorry, i though i'd just copied the last line ie: : Couldn't find package gridwars
[04:36] <snapete> Does anybody know how to encode a mpeg2 File into  x264 video + 5ch acc audio in a mkv Container?
[04:36] <ompaul> missed him
[04:37] <Lyv> so does anybody know how grid wars can be installed?
[04:37] <erUSUL> prana: ?
[04:37] <krammer> lyv: search the internet for the program
[04:37] <I_G0dzzzz_I> :d
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> lakhwinder@lakhwinder-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get remove utorrent
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> Password:
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> Reading package lists... Done
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> Building dependency tree
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> Reading state information... Done
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> E: Couldn't find package utorrent
[04:37] <voLtaGe`> need help on how to uninstall utorrent
[04:38] <ompaul> voLtaGe`, it is not installed
[04:38] <snapete> Torrent runs in wine voltage
[04:38] <voLtaGe`> how can i uninstall it tho?
[04:38] <voLtaGe`> i think it is instaleld
[04:38] <ompaul> voLtaGe`, or you installed it using something other than apt :-) which is what you did
[04:38] <Lyv> krammer: i have, i just don't know how to install it
[04:38] <voLtaGe`> er i used wine to install
[04:38] <snapete> Use Wine File
[04:39] <voLtaGe`> but idk how to unisntall it...azeurus is ezier to use
[04:39] <Lyv> krammer: http://www.littleubuntu.com/blog/?p=17
[04:39] <ompaul> [nrx] , have you any audio at all?
[04:39] <voLtaGe`> yo snap how i use wine file ?? :S
[04:39] <porkpie> does anyone know if the subversion pkg is broken .... i have installed it but cannot start subversion
[04:40] <[nrx] > ompaul: just rebooted and when kde logs in, it played sound so i'm gonna try again
[04:40] <nanonyme> voLtaGe`, check winehq.org/download on instruction on how to set up a recent version of wine
[04:40] <voLtaGe`> i got a recent version installed
[04:40] <ompaul> [nrx] , k
[04:40] <tatters> Pici: why does that article state that sudo kate cannot be run when clearly it can?
[04:40] <nanonyme> ubuntu portage doesn't have a recent version
[04:41] <voLtaGe`> i updated it
[04:41] <nanonyme> egh
[04:41] <marlun> I don't get it I've added a couple of songs to Serpentine and I know it's about 77minutes long but serpentine tells me it's 40min overlap? It's a 80min disc.
[04:41] <mrjones> hey can sombody help me with my bluetooth dongle? i can connect it via usb, but when i use an adapter to ps2 it wont work (not enough usb ports)
[04:41] <nanonyme> repository even
[04:41] <voLtaGe`> installed updates for ubuntu
[04:41] <nanonyme> voLtaGe`, which version is it then?
[04:41] <[nrx] > er, yeah it's working. I just started to play a file with the volume up full.
[04:41] <voLtaGe`> juss wanna kno how i can uninstall utorrent usin wine
[04:41] <[nrx] > i crapped my pants :(
[04:41] <nanonyme> voLtaGe`, i think it's a program called "uninstaller"
[04:41] <voLtaGe`> 0.9.45 or somethink like taht
[04:41] <voLtaGe`> first tiem usin ubuntu tho dunno where anythin is :(
[04:41] <[nrx] > is there a Linux equivalent of daemontools for windows?
[04:41] <nanonyme> might want to ask that kind of questions on #winehq
[04:42] <Lyv> does anybody know how to install grid wars, i have a .zip downloaded but i dunno what to do with it.... ?
[04:42] <ompaul> [nrx] , what does that program do - some of use do not ever run that other thing
[04:42] <stefg> [nrx] : google for cdemu
[04:42] <[nrx] > ompaul: in windows, it creates virtual drives on the system.. it allows you to 'mount' iso's etc and have them treated as cdrom drives
[04:42] <[nrx] > stefg: thanks
[04:43] <marlun> ubuntu tells me a song is 8min and windows tells me it's 3...hmmm
[04:43] <ompaul> [nrx] , he meant qemu :) and I will now give you two command lines and you can work out how to use them
[04:43] <[nrx] > lol ok
[04:43] <prana> erUSUL, ubotu says there are some compatibility issues with webmin but ia m using it without any problem if you interested  you can try
[04:44] <erUSUL> !worksforme | prana
[04:44] <ubotu> prana: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[04:44] <ompaul> [nrx] , for creating a "virtual drive first do this" qemu-img create Something.img 256M ( where the 256 is part of your ram)
[04:44] <stefg> marlun: that's prolly a VBR encoded song
[04:44] <[nrx] > ompaul: k
[04:44] <dwxreaper> how do I list what starts up on boot with ubuntu
[04:44] <stefg> !boot
[04:44] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:45] <marlun> stefg, don't know what that is :/
[04:45] <erUSUL> prana: i'm only concerned about recomending software that it's not supported.
[04:45] <vibhor> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 along with some packages i need on one of the nodes of my cluster, i want to copy the same configurations to the rest of the nodes. Please help me out on what to do?
[04:45] <lerio_> ompaul, now i can see the loaded drivers and etc but is there any way i can also see boot splash?
[04:45] <ompaul> [nrx] , then qemu -cdrom /path/file.iso -hda ./Something.img -m 256m -boot d   << the d is there   {hda is disk one and real location}and there are lots of funky things yiou can do
[04:45] <dwxreaper> how do I tell what services will start?
[04:45] <vootele> hello there
[04:46] <vootele> seeking for hel
[04:46] <vootele> help
[04:46] <ompaul> lerio, not with the ubuntu splash
[04:46] <Lyv> does anybody know where to find a deb for gridwars?
[04:46] <lerio_> ompaul, ya i see but no boot splash
[04:46] <GNine> my acpi reports a -267 degrees operating temp.  i need a command line to fix that. i know its wrong because am not in pluto (as in the 9th planet)
[04:46] <vootele> how to get bluetooth pairing working
[04:46] <Lyv> found, in case anybodyis interested: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=GridWars+2
[04:47] <stefg> marlun: variable bit rate. mp3 is proprietary, so i think your linux player only looks at the bitrate at the beginning of the song and extrapolates the length. windows might have a different approach and knows how to calculate lengths on varaible bitrate files
[04:47] <dwxreaper> how do I tell what services will start?
[04:47] <ompaul> lerio_, I told you how to disable it, you have some funny monitor where it is not showing from what you said eariler
[04:47] <ompaul> lerio_, have a look at your possible settings for grub
[04:48] <Wipster> whats a decent visual IDE program for linux, I guess for C++ no idea whats commonly used to make programs for gnome... any suggestions?
[04:48] <GNine> !python
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <GNine> blah
[04:49] <lerio_> ompaul, can i set my boot resolution to lower? and how
[04:49] <ompaul> lerio_, I never had to so I imagine it is a grub setting
[04:49] <ompaul> lerio_, I guess you got to explore now :) I got you from nothing to something it is all I can do
[04:50] <GNine> boot resolution?   ha
[04:50] <autodidakt> hi, i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has to be someting in xorg.conf ?
[04:50] <[nrx] > ompaul: thanks :)
[04:50] <ompaul> [nrx] , np
[04:50] <dwxreaper> how do I list what services will start with ubuntu?
[04:50] <prana> !seen | prana
[04:51] <GNine> check whats in nautilus
[04:51] <lerio_> ompaul, i hav tried the vga=xxx still black screen
[04:51] <stefg> !boot | dwxreaper: you have been given this link already
[04:51] <ubotu> dwxreaper: you have been given this link already: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:51] <Kresjah> Hey! I need some help here, if anyone can spare some time. Please take into account that I'm rather fresh to linux.  I'm trying to get my GL working on my old Ati Mobility M1 card. I am currently trying to configure xf86-video-ati-6.7.192, but I get the following error:
[04:51] <ompaul> lerio_, I told ay, I actually don't know how, if you find out tell me and I will show you where to document it
[04:52] <Chris82> hi there :) I have a little problem installing ubuntu
[04:52] <Wipster> I guess Anjuta looks prety good....
[04:52] <lerio_> ompaul, ok tnx very much
[04:52] <Kresjah> Requested 'xorg-server >= 1.3' but version of xorg-server is 1.2.0
[04:52] <Chris82> I downloaded ubuntu 7.04 i386 cd image and do the graphical install
[04:52] <oscuro> Hi everybody, I can't see .wmv videos on ubuntu, they're imposible to view coz of they appear, or very slow, or like pieces, only the audio works fine I think. I installed all the codecs from automatix, so I don't know what to do, thanks for any help.
[04:52] <Kresjah> Pretty obvious that my xorg-server is out of date, but I have no idea where to go from here to get it further
[04:52] <Chris82> and I'd like to know where I can choose in which partition Grub/Lilo or whatever ubuntu installs is installed
[04:52] <stefg> !automatix | oscuro
[04:52] <ubotu> oscuro: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:53] <Chris82> if I use the default setup options it will be installed in MBR I fear and the Vista bootloaded will be destroeyed
[04:53] <svg> Hi - I somehow got my gconf data messed up - A couple of days ago I experimentec with the files beneath <home>/.gconf/, and I only noticed the mess when logging out and back in today - AFAIS the goog config is in .gconf/%gconf.xml but gconf now uses .gconf/<subdirs>/%gconf.xml
[04:53] <GNine> muahahah
[04:53] <GNine> it will
[04:54] <GNine> but fear not.. ubuntu plays well with windows in dual boot setups
[04:54] <neil_feisty> !gutsy
[04:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:54] <Chris82> well ;) I know better
[04:54] <dwxreaper> stefg: i read that, I just want a command that says what will start
[04:54] <Chris82> I just did the setup and ubuntu killed the partition table
[04:54] <Chris82> so I had to boot from the Vista DVD to repair it and boot into Vista again
[04:54] <bentlegen> does anyone know how to install mysql4 via apt-get *without* installing mysql5?
[04:54] <Chris82> I don't want to use Grub I will use the Vista bootloader to boot ubuntu
[04:54] <peeps_work> strange, i just tried to select some text from gnome terminal to copy, and ALL of my open gnome terminal windows disappeared
[04:54] <dwxreaper> like going to services in windows, sorting on started or whatever, there is nothing that simple?
[04:55] <GNine> well.. that also depends on your install method.. i did a live cd and then i killed windows later.. all me
[04:55] <Chris82> but I don't find an option in the setup where I can modify any bootloader options... I can't even select the packages that are being installed
[04:55] <vibhor>  @ ubotu is there any way to clone an ubunutu installation so as to copy onto the each machine in a cluster?
[04:55] <stefg> dwxreaper: this is not windows.... get educated
[04:55] <monstar-1> can someone tell me whats the name in Italy for greencard? Thanks a lot
[04:55] <Chris82> I am doing a live cd setup as well
[04:55] <voLtaGe`> how to uninstall utorrent?? :(
[04:55] <dwxreaper> stefg: lol don't be an idiot
[04:55] <lnx_> i use mono to write and compile c# code , and every time i open new project i need to check "open on external" console , i can set mono to check it by default ?
[04:56] <dwxreaper> stefg: you justify linux's shortcomings by saying get educated?
[04:56] <autodidakt> *push* :)  i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has to be someting in xorg.conf ?
[04:56] <dwxreaper> nice one
[04:56] <Chris82> hmmm is there a good community forum maybe? this chat is not of much help ;)
[04:56] <peeps_work> dwxreaper, there is System-> Preferences -> Sessions, which shows which apps to load once you are in gnome.  that's not really services though
[04:56] <stefg> dwxreaper: serious.... THIS IS NOT WINDOWS!!! understand run levels and upstart, then you'll know why your putting a stupid question
[04:56] <Chris82> /server irc.oftc.net
[04:56] <dwxreaper> stefg: yes you are saying there is no command that will just say that, I don't care what starts on what event
[04:57] <dug_> take it easy stefg
[04:57] <Chris82> lol doesn't seem to work here this command
[04:57] <dwxreaper> there should be one command, if not it's a failure, and not easy to use
[04:57] <Pici> !coc | dwxreaper stefg
[04:57] <ubotu> dwxreaper stefg: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:57] <GNine> do you code dwxreaper ?
[04:57] <airstrike> make the command yourself and contribute to the community
[04:57] <airstrike> or else stop complaining and go figure things out
[04:57] <Shaba2> Hello folk. I am temporarlily running xubuntu on a laptop until my desktop gets fixed. Is there a way I can see how much battery life I have left on this laptop?
[04:57] <dwxreaper> gnine: sometimes, i'm a network engineer
[04:57] <airstrike> we're here to help, not to cure your frustration
[04:58] <lalali> hi. in doubt whether to use ubuntu 6 or 7. ubuntu web page download options say 6 is LTS, but 7 is only supported until 2008. Does this mean version 7 will not get package updates after 2008?
[04:58] <dwxreaper> all I know is I keep seeing places where windows is better, and you guys get all pissy when I ask how to do something windows is better at
[04:58] <dug_> dwxreaper: ls /etc/init.d shows startup scripts and programs
[04:58] <Chris82> full ack @dwxreaper
[04:58] <GNine> ok.. networks dont have a OS system tag on it.. so dont call failures on code you dont know jack about
[04:58] <Chris82> that's why no one is using Linux ;)
[04:58] <yaser> suddenly Evolution doesnt refresh messages any more, any idea?
[04:59] <dwxreaper> dug: yes I was wondering if I could just list the scripts in that dir, and that's what started
[04:59] <jimcooncat> Chris82: Why not use vista's bootloader?
[04:59] <airstrike> there surely are places where windows is doing better
[04:59] <airstrike> but there are -lots- of things that linux does better
[04:59] <Chris82> jimcooncat: I want to
[04:59] <gordonjcp> dwxreaper: if you look in /etc/init.d/ you should get an idea of what it's going to try and start
[04:59] <airstrike> and i think you forgot the fact that linux is free
[04:59] <Chris82> but ubuntu doesn't allow me to install the OS without installing its bootloaded to the MBR
[04:59] <tiddi> what is the best thing to use to extract .rar files?
[04:59] <mc44> lalali: you probably want to use the latest version, unless you don't want to upgrade regularly
[04:59] <Chris82> there are 0 options to configure anything
[04:59] <airstrike> Chris82, windows would do the same
[04:59] <tiddi> archive manager says it does not support it
[04:59] <airstrike> Chris82, you can use grub to restore it
[04:59] <Chris82> all I can do is select the install partition and username, that's like a Windows setup lol
[04:59] <vibhor> anyone has idea on cloning ubuntu installations? please help I am fairly new to linux ......
[04:59] <Chris82> I expected a little more :p
[05:00] <eNtRoPiA> people
[05:00] <jimcooncat> Chris82: sure it will, I do that on my installs
[05:00] <eNtRoPiA> any one can help me with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37689/
[05:00] <yaser> tiddi, sudo apt-get install rar
[05:00] <dwxreaper> gordon: so look in there, to get an idea, then based on events some might not start, so once booted, check the process list?
[05:00] <lalali> mc44, I do want to keep my system up-to-date, and I'd prefer not to have to reinstall the OS every 6 months.
[05:00] <Chris82> well grub shows an entry "Windows Vista"
[05:00] <tiddi> tnx yaser
[05:00] <gordonjcp> Chris82: use the advanced install C
[05:00] <Chris82> but when I select it the PC just reboots
[05:00] <doug_> whn i do ./configure iget this configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:00] <doug_> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:00] <gordonjcp> Chris82: CD, even
[05:00] <airstrike> lalali, you won't be reinstalling it, just upgrading
[05:00] <Chris82> how can I run the advanced install?
[05:00] <mc44> lalali: you don't have to reinstall, you can just upgrade
[05:00] <gordonjcp> Chris82: get the alternatives CD
[05:00] <yaser> tiddi, yw
[05:00] <autodidakt> *push* :)  i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has to be someting in xorg.conf ?
[05:00] <gladiatr> greetings.  I have a quick question: how do I disable TCP and IP checksum offloading?
[05:00] <Chris82> alright thanks :)
[05:00] <Chris82> downloading the advanced DVD then
[05:00] <mc44> lalali: LTS only gets security updates
[05:01] <dug_> vibhor: you can use a program like dd to copy a whole hard drive to another one, or else google for 'remastering ubuntu cd' to essentially create a cd based on your own installation
[05:01] <Chris82> CD I mean
[05:01] <gordonjcp> Chris82: I'll warn you now, if you don't like complex texty command-line stuff, you won't like this
[05:01] <doug_> can someone run me through the install of pidgin 2.2.0
[05:01] <airstrike> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[05:01] <vibhor> thanks for the help dug_
[05:01] <mc44> Chris82: there are lots of guides for dual booting with vista around
[05:01] <lalali> mc44, airstrike : upgrade from a CD? LTS then for using ubuntu on a server os better choice, but version 7 for desktop, right ?
[05:01] <lalali> *is
[05:01] <dug_> doug_: if you haven't already, install the 'build-essential' package.  if you have that, you may also need the linux-headers for your kernel version
[05:01] <mc44> Chris82: windows doesn't play nice with the MBR, not linux :P
[05:01] <Chris82> gordonjcp: I don't like Linux anyway and will stick to Vista, I just want to test some things on Linux and need a customized install
[05:02] <Chris82> no standard Windows-like install
[05:02] <yaser> is there already published the exact date of Ubuntu Gutsy final release?
[05:02] <airstrike> lalali, i don't really have any experience with ubuntu on servers (nor do i think it is known as the ideal option for linux distros running on servers), but LTS would definitely be better
[05:02] <jimcooncat> Chris82: you should probably run it in vmware or similar then
[05:02] <mc44> lalali: yes, for a desktop you probably want the latest version
[05:02] <Chris82> can I burn a cd with the live cd so I don't need to boot back to Vista just to get the alternate CD ?
[05:02] <Chris82> no I can't run 3D Apps with Wine in vmware unfortunately
[05:02] <airstrike> Chris82, good luck with incompatibility with old software.. and finding a crack for vista if you haven't purchased your copy
[05:03] <airstrike> or stealthy automatic updates
[05:03] <Chris82> I have purchased it
[05:03] <lalali> mc44, airstrike Right on! Thanks a lot guys. :-)
[05:03] <GNine> echo -n "65:60:50:55:50:45" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/trip_points
[05:03] <GNine>   returned: permission denied ... i need access to acpi ... gimme code now
[05:03] <Chris82> I don't use illegal software :p
[05:03] <airstrike> or running on 400mb ram when idle
[05:03] <dgjones> yaser, i'd guess its 18th October, thats when a number of ubuntu groups seem to be having release parties
[05:03] <GNine> heh
[05:03] <yaser> dgjones, ok tnaks
[05:03] <Chris82> actually Vista uses 3,5 GB Ram when idle
[05:03] <Chris82> because it caches all my appz :p
[05:03] <autodidakt> *push* :)  i have nvidia drivers installed on faisty 64 bit. everything works fine but because auf inputlag i'd like to deaktivate vsync. i guess there has to be someting in xorg.conf ?
[05:03] <airstrike> that's so not efficient
[05:03] <oscuro> so, any help about how can I play .wmv vids alright, they all look slow in here.
[05:04] <Chris82> well then show me how your computer opens Photoshop in 4 seconds
[05:04] <airstrike> oscuro, do you have your video card drivers installed correctly?
[05:04] <bentlegen> does anyone know how to install mysql4 via apt-get *without* installing mysql5?
[05:04] <Chris82> or a program that can do similar things on Linux
[05:04] <stefg> autodidakt: sudo nvidia-settings
[05:04] <airstrike> it usually doesn't take much more than 5 seconds to open photoshop on vista
[05:04] <airstrike> and i just counted 3~4 for gimp
[05:04] <Chris82> yeah because it preloads the files most commonly used in ram
[05:04] <Chris82> on xp it takes 30 seconds to load photoshop on my PC
[05:05] <airstrike> vista -does not- cache all the programs up to 3.5gb ram
[05:05] <mc44> this channel is not for discussing the relative merits of windows
[05:05] <autodidakt> stefg: yap and then? ^^
[05:05] <oscuro> airstrike I think really.
[05:05] <mc44> !offtopic | airstrike, Chris82
[05:05] <ubotu> airstrike, Chris82: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:05] <stefg> autodidakt: enjoy the gui :-)
[05:05] <airstrike> i'm done with offtopic
[05:05] <Chris82> sorry ;) ok back to topic
[05:05] <oscuro> I have an ugly computer, and has video, sound etc integrated to the main board.
[05:05] <GNine> 3.5 gigs of ram?  yah right
[05:05] <Chris82> can I burn a cd with the live cd?
[05:05] <airstrike> yes you can
[05:05] <weltall> make a ram disk and you are done :P
[05:05] <Kresjah> Anyone who can help me work my GL out?
[05:05] <Chris82> GNine: I have 4 if that is the question
[05:05] <GNine> i doubt you actually have all that ram
[05:05] <Chris82> airstrike: ok good :) then I don't need to boot back
[05:06] <airstrike> oh, i thought you meant if you could burn a copy of the live c
[05:06] <airstrike> d
[05:06] <autodidakt> stefg: hm pls tell me where to find vsync in the gui
[05:06] <rediz_> how do u start ndiswrapper from terminal
[05:06] <mc44> rediz_: you want to set it up? or you've already done that?
[05:06] <Chris82> nah I am using the live cd right now and I want to burn the alternate one so I can use an advanced setup
[05:06] <Chris82> with lots of text :D
[05:06] <airstrike> i don't know if you could burn something on the live cd, but i'd doubt it.. it should be using plenty of ram/resources as it is and i don't think it loads up any burners
[05:06] <GNine> ok.. so you do.. why do you need a virtual memory then.. pretty sure something is cache to disk
[05:06] <Kresjah> Basically, in order to get any further on my venture towards GL, I supposedly need xorg-server 1.3, but I have no clue where to get it
[05:06] <Chris82> well I will see in a few mins
[05:07] <rediz_> mc44 i've used package manager to install. not shur if ive setup
[05:07] <stefg> autodidakt: X server XVideo-settings -> sync to Vblank
[05:07] <mc44> rediz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:08] <Chris82> ok so the alternate cd downloaded fine using the live cd, now I try to burn it
[05:08] <autodidakt> stefg: sync to Vblack = vsync?
[05:08] <NET||abuse> arrrrrgggggg!!!! I moused over an mp3 on my desktop to delete it,, as i did, the mouse over preview started playing, the file is gone from my desktop, but it keeps playing the file?? How can i stop that playback???
[05:08] <GNine> funny
[05:08] <stefg> autodidakt: or do you mean the vsync of your display?
[05:09] <autodidakt> stefg: hm vertical sync as it is defined in windows ^
[05:09] <GNine> u could kill the process.. or to be blunt , kill the xserver
[05:09] <GNine> :-P
[05:09] <NET||abuse> GNine, yeh, dunno what the process is to ps aux it....
[05:09] <mc44> Chris82: http://sathyasays.com/?p=15
[05:09] <stefg> !fixres | autodidakt
[05:09] <ubotu> autodidakt: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <rediz_> mc44 thnxz
[05:10] <Chris82> mc44: Thanks for that link... reading it
[05:10] <GNine> my acpi reports a -267 degrees operating temp.  i need a command line to fix that. i know its wrong because am not in pluto (as in the 9th planet)
[05:11] <GNine> access code now.. do it
[05:11] <airstrike> haha
[05:11] <stefg> GNine: superconducting wires! Hey, there's some opportunity to overclock, i guess! :-)
[05:11] <airstrike> Chris82, just make sure you're adding the right (hdX,Y) according to your drivers/partitions
[05:11] <mc44> genii: thats unpossible!
[05:11] <GNine> very funny..  :-/
[05:12] <Chris82> hmmm isn't it possible to use widescreen resolutions in ubuntu?
[05:12] <genii> Actually i think -267 would be +6 K
[05:12] <mc44> yes, its -273.15
[05:12] <Chris82> it uses 1280x1024 automatically and I can't set it to 1680x1050
[05:12] <Pici> !fixres > Chris82 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[05:12] <airstrike> yes it is
[05:12] <genii> mc44: But still unpossible for cpu temp
[05:12] <airstrike> you're running the live cd, i believe not everything is working as smoothly as they would in a full install
[05:12] <mc44> genii: I dunno, even with water cooling? :P
[05:12] <airstrike> i'm running 1680x1050 right now
[05:13] <GNine> those were centigrade degrees.. either way .. one kelvin is not a workable solution for anything
[05:13] <nox-Hand> Is there a way to improve audio quality in linux?
[05:13] <airstrike> install the apropriate sound card drivers?
[05:13] <un_dave> anyone know how to get an irc server window to display in gaim ?
[05:13] <un_dave> i need to enter an irc server command
[05:13] <genii> GNine: Definitely not good, either way
[05:14] <Pici> un_dave: you could try using /quote
[05:14] <GNine> the deal is .. acpi is wrong.. that, is the issue at hand
[05:14] <un_dave> Pici: where would i enter it ?
[05:14] <airstrike> Chris82, make sure you read the #comments in menu.lst, there are some tips in there (such as 'default N'/savedefault for making one of the entries the default one when booting)
[05:14] <Pici> un_dave: Right where you type what you are typing now.
[05:15] <GNine> was thinking maybe kernel upgrade but ... F*** that.. problem is acpi module
[05:15] <GNine> i need codes
[05:15] <GNine> now
[05:15] <GNine> do it
[05:16] <afs> hi! I am developing kernel-related stuff, and I wonder why some linux include files are not put in /usr/include/linux but in /usr/src/linux/include/. Anyone got a clue?
[05:16] <un_dave> Pici: lol. that just crashed gaim
[05:16] <Kresjah> Is there anyone out there who can tell me where/how to get my xorg-server upgraded from 1.2.0 to 1.3=<
[05:16] <Kresjah> ?`
[05:16] <mc44> afs: you could try asking in #ubuntu-kernel if no one here knows
[05:17] <genii> GNine: Is this by chance an MSI motehrboard? Google shows me something about MSI bios fix for bad cpu temp reading
[05:17] <DjViper> I doubt anyone here knows the answer to that afs
[05:17] <GNine> negative
[05:17] <afs> I'll check there, thanks a lot for the pointer
[05:17] <genii> GNine: OK
[05:17] <GNine> throw me that link .. i might get infected by something from there
[05:17] <npnufn> how can I disable access to removable media from the shell.
[05:18] <npnufn> for gnome it is gnome-volume-properties, but for what is for shell.
[05:18] <Ignite> afs, the ones in /usr/src/linux/include are from the Linux source tarball, the ones in /usr/include are the installed headers.
[05:18] <GNine> i mean .. in a good way.  like i need codes , you know.. now
[05:18] <GNine> heh
[05:18] <NSFrag> is anyone in here familiar with installing ubuntu via debootstrap
[05:19] <GNine> and i got some major lag goin on here too.. not good
[05:19] <afs> Ignite: the package linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic (matches my kernel) has this file...
[05:20] <orkid1> Hi, I'm trying to set up a serial mouse on gutsy. However, I can't even get anything from cat /dev/ttyS0 or 1 when I move the mouse. starting gpm also doesn't give me the mouse. I have a PS/2 but no mouse on it, just a serial mouse.
[05:20] <afs> .. but in the wrong location i'd think
[05:20] <Ignite> afs, which file?
[05:20] <afs> compiler.h
[05:20] <NSFrag> orkid1: lol why dont you get a normal mouse :P
[05:20] <NSFrag> orkid1: its not like theyre expensive
[05:20] <GNine> usb is the shiznits
[05:20] <orkid1> NSFrag: b/c this isn't my computer, it's old, and I don't have an extra one.
[05:21] <npnufn> how can I disable automounting of removable media from the shell?
[05:21] <Ignite> afs, I suspect the source contains additional headers for kernel development, is that what you're doing?
[05:21] <orkid1> orkid1: and I have used serial mice before, and they work. It also works in Win98 fine (dual boot).
[05:21] <orkid1> (woops, i'm talking to myself)
[05:21] <afs> Ignite: I guess. I need it for compiling qemu
[05:22] <afs> and other machines (running debian) seem to have this file in /usr/include/linux/
[05:22] <NSFrag> is anyone here familiar with installing ubuntu via debootstrap
[05:22] <Ignite> afs, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`. If that doesn't work, you could always try VirtualBox. <3 VirtualBox (see: http://www.virtualbox.org).
[05:22] <ibilic> how do I search man pages?
[05:23] <afs> Ignite: virtualbox is not an option, i'm doing research on argos which is a patched qemu....
[05:23] <orkid1> ibilic: man -k
[05:23] <orkid1> ibilic: man man
[05:23] <Ignite> afs, ah, okay. Try installing apt-file, then you can do an apt-file search <filename>. That will tell you what package(s) contain that file.
[05:23] <orkid1> NSFrag: I guess not.
[05:24] <GNine> whats funny is that acpi doesnt do the crazy fan/temp reading all the time.. sometimes i just do a reboot and everything is fine..  i call it the acpi hiccup syndrome
[05:24] <ibilic> I want to search the man page for mount for "vfat"
[05:24] <GNine> i need code now dammit
[05:24] <NSFrag> orkid1: yeah this is why i dislike #ubuntu, all the smart people are in #debian
[05:24] <sybariten> NSFrag: sounds like a good idea!
[05:25] <orkid1> NSFrag: they won't tell you how to use it? Did you read the manpage? Usually they're good.
[05:25] <Grungebunny> umm.. if your running ubuntu you are running debian
[05:26] <NSFrag> orkid1: its not a matter of using it, its a matter of running into critical errors such as the system message sender not starting
[05:26] <Agrajag> no, if you're running ubuntu, you're runing ubuntu
[05:26] <genii> GNine: Can you pastebin results of command: sensors       also, do you have a kernel option line for grub of noacpi or acpi=off or similar
[05:26] <NSFrag> #debian was like shrug ask in #ubuntu
[05:26] <NSFrag> lol
[05:26] <PriitM> Hi! With what could I uncompress .bin file?
[05:26] <Myrtti> PriitM: you don't
[05:27] <Myrtti> PriitM: by the looks of it, I'd guess it's a binary package that you're just supposed to run
[05:27] <PriitM> Myrtti, it's cd image with .bin extension
[05:27] <mc44> you can just mount it then
[05:27] <Myrtti> PriitM: mount... oh.
[05:27] <mc44> !mount
[05:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:28] <orkid1> no one has any idea why a serial mouse won't work?
[05:28] <PriitM> thanks
[05:28] <mc44> !iso | PriitM
[05:28] <ubotu> PriitM: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:28] <orkid1> NSFrag: lol.
[05:28] <orkid1> NSFrag: If you haven't, I would man debootstrap
[05:28] <PriitM> thanks
[05:28] <genii> orkid1: Change in /etc/X11/xorg.conf the device the mouse is susing
[05:28] <NSFrag> orkid1: no i have, and i know what im doing is *supposed* to work
[05:29] <genii> *using
[05:29] <NSFrag> orkid1: see when gutsy failed with dpkg errors i kindof expected that, its a beta
[05:29] <NSFrag> but feisty should have worked
[05:29] <orkid1> genii: I tried. But I can't even get output from 'cat /dev/ttyS0'
[05:29] <NSFrag> \
[05:29] <npnufn> ok then what is hald-addon-usb-csr?
[05:29] <orkid1> genii: starting gpm in console doesn't give me mouse either.
[05:29] <orkid1> NSFrag: What's your problem exactly?
[05:30] <Inxs> how to check hard disk for bad sectors?
[05:30] <genii> orkid1: May be another serial port besides 3f8, eg: 2f8 3e8 etc. Likely set in bios
[05:31] <Inxs> how to check hard disk for bad sectors? please
[05:31] <shamantic> moi
[05:31] <shamantic> hi
[05:32] <shamantic> anyone help me on "Puke hike pkole no kl me kia mea"  <----- which language is it?
[05:32] <mc44> Inxs: fsck
[05:32] <astate> is there an apt-get command that will let me see the installed version for a specific package?
[05:32] <genii> hawaiian
[05:32] <afs> Ignite: apt-file lists no packages having /usr/include/linux/compiler.h
[05:32] <mc44> astate: apt-cache show <package>
[05:32] <gnomefreak> astate: apt-cache policy
[05:32] <genii> or malay
[05:32] <astate> ah, tahnks
[05:32] <shamantic> genii do you know hawaiian?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> mc44: that shows cached versions too
[05:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> it's not malay
[05:32] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I know malay and it's not malay
[05:32] <genii> shamantic: My friend in Maui does
[05:32] <Pici> !offtopic
[05:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:33] <shamantic> can you transtale it to english for me
[05:33] <shamantic> if you have free time
[05:33] <genii> !fsck | Inxs
[05:33] <ubotu> Inxs: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[05:33] <mc44> gnomefreak: yeah, I meant apt-cache policy. I have aliases which means I forget which is which :)
[05:33] <Ignite> afs, if you install apt-build then install qemu with that, it will build it from source. Thus it will be forced to install the correct package.
[05:33] <orkid1> genii: I'll try that. I tried both ports, 1 and 2, no go. i'll try switching addresses. what i would like to find is a way to diable the psaux on the motherboard. i fear it has something to do with it.
[05:33] <genii> shamantic: I don't speak it :(
[05:33] <orkid1> someone.
[05:33] <shamantic> ohh thnx genii
[05:33] <Inxs> hmm can i check from while booted from cd?
[05:34] <Kresjah> Is there anyone here who knows anything about xorg-server?
[05:34] <Orange_Tea> How i enable to play mp3 / music
[05:34] <mc44> !mp3 | Orange_Tea
[05:34] <ubotu> Orange_Tea: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <kaiwan> hi ... my Main Menu went missing, so I cant create launchers, how can I restore it? :)
[05:34] <SlimeyPete> !ask | Kresjah
[05:34] <ubotu> Kresjah: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:35] <npnufn> !usb|hald
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <Kresjah> SlimeyPete: I've tried for hours now with no response. I'm tired of retyping the whole thing :p
[05:35] <npnufn> !hald
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <SlimeyPete> Kresjah: heh, fair enough
[05:35] <Ignite> kaiwan, right click on the panel then choose "Add to panel", then choose the option "Menu bar".
[05:35] <Kresjah> I need some help here, if anyone can spare some time. Please take into account that I'm rather fresh to linux.  I'm trying to get my GL working on my old Ati Mobility M1 card. I am currently trying to configure xf86-video-ati-6.7.192, but I get the following error:
[05:36] <afs> Ignite: yes, unfortunately its not only qemu but also argos I need to build. Argos is a heavily patched qemu which is not availalbe in ubuntu repos
[05:36] <Kresjah> Requested 'xorg-server >= 1.3' but version of xorg-server is 1.2.0
[05:36] <Kresjah> Pretty obvious that my xorg-server is out of date, but I have no idea where to go from here to get it further
[05:36] <genii> orkid1: I had to do same thing with this Dell recently. disabled ps2 mouse in bios and started using an onld serial mouse on 3f8 (ttyS0)
[05:36] <npnufn> does any one know how to control hald?
[05:36] <npnufn> hal daemon!
[05:36] <orkid1> genii: I wish I could find the option to disable the PS2 mouse. We'll see. time to reboot.
[05:36] <kaiwan> sorry, not that ... I have a main manu, what I dont have is that thing where you can create new launcher, it was under Administration I tink
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> Kresjah: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:36] <Pici> !ati | Kresjah have you tried following the directions here
[05:36] <ubotu> Kresjah have you tried following the directions here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <Ignite> afs, you can uninstall the Ubuntu version of qemu afterwards. And you will have everything install to build qemu. Unless of course the file that is missing is required by argos and not qemu.
[05:37] <genii> orkid1: Could be you have some irq conflict with irq 3 or 4 (standard serial port IRQs)
[05:37] <Ignite> installed*
[05:37] <peirredefermat> hulloh
[05:37] <tarelerulz> Is there a way to get opera the web browser to have voice read in it ? the site says that is just for windows
[05:37] <genii> work, AFK
[05:37] <Kresjah> SlimeyPete: I have an old ATI Mobility M1, one of the most dreaded cards for ubuntu users when it comes to GL :p And I'
[05:37] <afs> Ignite: good point. Argos and qemu have the same deps
[05:37] <Kresjah> m using Feisty, downloaded 2-3 days ago
[05:38] <Kresjah> Updated today
[05:38] <Kresjah> Brb, dinner... will read up when I come back
[05:39] <main2> how can i tell the knetworkmanager to manage my wlan networks? > i said 'manual' once, but cant get it to manage them again
[05:39] <main2> any ideas?
[05:41] <wirelessmonkey> .
[05:41] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with nfs/nis in a computer lab please.  I moved an account from /home to /local_home and now cannot login.  Please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37704/ for details.
[05:41] <fiXXXerMet> How do I add another user to the system that has the same privileges of the user I setup while installing ubuntu?
[05:41] <afs> Ignite: guess what: there is a patch that adjusts the qemu source to no longer require that header file
[05:41] <peirredefermat> hello. i am your friendly neighborhood bot.
[05:41] <peirredefermat> "Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design :-)" what is special about this statement
[05:42] <Ignite> afs, *sigh*
[05:42] <Orange_Tea> How i enable to play mp3 / music i already install plugins?
[05:42] <peirredefermat> !mp3
[05:42] <Ronald> WinAmp 5.35 stopped
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <nofeardjb> anyone know of a guide for installing and configuring Subversion?
[05:42] <Eko_Hermiyanto> Orange_Tea: you can play it dirrectly
[05:42] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have an ubuntu system and I play mp3 with bongo
[05:42] <afs> which wont work on my argos version :( *sigh* - however, I thank you for your help since it got me on the right track to solve this
[05:42] <Eko_Hermiyanto> it plays mp3 music for me smoothly
[05:43] <Eko_Hermiyanto> now I am listening to music smoothly in emacs
[05:43] <peirredefermat> Eko_Hermiyanto: I am designed in emacs
[05:43] <akcom> I'm attempting to install a newer version of gtk in order to use swfdec.  I already got glib and pango installed, but when I try to install atk, I get a message saying that "'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.12.9, but GLIB (2.12.11) was found!"
[05:43] <akcom> How can I correct this?
[05:43] <z9999> Ubuntu 6.06 - powered up system - Applied 101 updates after asking advice here earlier, and now my wireless no longer works or shows. Now what?
[05:44] <nofeardjb> anyone got some info on setting up subversion?
[05:44] <ibilic> why does my "su" command fail, it says that there is an authorization failure?
[05:44] <akcom> I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that I did not remove the old glib through apt version before manually installing the new one
[05:44] <peirredefermat> "Dijkstra probably hates me." who said that
[05:44] <Pici> !sudo | ibilic
[05:44] <ubotu> ibilic: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44] <peirredefermat> ibilic: use sudo
[05:44] <ibilic> Pici, I know about sudo
[05:44] <ibilic> but it still doesn't let me do what I want
[05:44] <lewix> so anyone know what should I do about my screen saver. the screen went dark after a while as if i'm hibernating. Also, I would like the screensaver to change automatically after a few seconds
[05:44] <ibilic> I want to access the mnt folder
[05:44] <Pici> ibilic: Then you know that the root account is locked and that you can't use su?
[05:45] <afs> peirredefermat: linus, I guess :P
[05:45] <Pici> !svn | nofeardjb
[05:45] <ubotu> nofeardjb: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[05:45] <peirredefermat> afs: way to go afs! you've earned one cookie point
[05:45] <akcom> anyone?
[05:45] <afs> yay
[05:45] <ibilic> and why would that be? I am the only user (administrator)
[05:45] <ibilic> I just tried to mount a Windows drive
[05:45] <ibilic> and I think that caused it to lock itself
[05:45] <Pici> ibilic: Please read that page that ubotu linked you about sudo, it explains everything better than I can.
[05:45] <nofeardjb> Pici: ty, however I've yet to successfully install svn from their documenation :-/
[05:46] <peirredefermat> "LInux is cancer" who said that
[05:46] <Grungebunny> bill gates?
[05:46] <Grungebunny> lol
[05:46] <Eko_Hermiyanto> Ubuntu is beautiful
[05:46] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I love it
[05:46] <peirredefermat> Grungebunny: oopsy sorry.
[05:46] <nofeardjb> ballmer
[05:46] <aguitel> !ati
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I don't care whether I am using linux or not, but I really care I am using ubuntu :))
[05:46] <nofeardjb> steve ballmer
[05:46] <stepanoff>  
[05:46] <peirredefermat> nofeardjb: way to go! you've earned yourself a cookie point
[05:46] <nofeardjb> :-D
[05:46] <Pici> nofeardjb: svn is in the Ubuntu repositories.  You can install it from there.
[05:47] <Grungebunny> it can be viral ;)
[05:47] <Pici> !offtopic | peirredefermat
[05:47] <ubotu> peirredefermat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:47] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help with nfs/nis accounts http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37704/
[05:47] <qleq4> Why is digital camera not visible after connecting via usb (ubuntu feisty fawn)?
[05:47] <qleq4> lsusb shows virtually nothing!
[05:47] <stepanoff>    ? =)
[05:47] <peirredefermat> $ :(){ :|:& };: - am i naughty here
[05:47] <Pici> !ops | peirredefermat
[05:47] <ubotu> peirredefermat: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:47] <afs> peirredefermat: that one is awesome!
[05:48] <mc44> !ru | stepanoff
[05:48] <ubotu> stepanoff:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:48] <tarelerulz> is it normal feature of vnc to have name for the computer on a lan ?  When you install one it ways gives a name ,but it never works for me.   any help
[05:48] <stepanoff> thanks
[05:48] <prospero91>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV5RCJUS_eo Beryl on a 50 inch smartboard right there
[05:49] <Pici> prospero91: This channel is only for support.  You can post links in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want.
[05:51] <aguitel> anyone have ati radeon  IGP 330M/340M/350M ?
[05:51] <aguitel> anyone work with ati radeon  IGP 330M/340M/350M ?
[05:53] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] :yo
[05:54] <afterlife> Hi to all , i've a problem , i can't connect to hotmail server with emesene or amsn or pidgin , i haven't firestarter or configurated iptables
[05:54] <eea> hola
[05:54] <fermatstheorem> hola senor/senora/senorita?
[05:54] <chal> hi
[05:54] <fermatstheorem> afterlife: hotmail server or msn messenger?
[05:54] <afterlife> msn messenger
[05:55] <chal> just wondering which arch of fiesty to use on a imac intel duo 2 core
[05:55] <afterlife> excuse me
[05:55] <chal> dual boot
[05:55] <fermatstheorem> afterlife: strange..it was working for my folks here few mins back. please check server details in the config
[05:55] <fermatstheorem> chal: x86 64
[05:56] <fermatstheorem> chal:flash/java plugin for firefox might not work unless u intsall 32 bit firefox
[05:56] <afterlife> whare are server details in emesene ?
[05:56] <nhansen1> hello. I just recently partitioned and installed Ubuntu via Wubi on my laptop. I now want to get rid of windwos completely, and kind of want to install fresh from the Live CD. thing is: the cdrom on my laptop doesnt work. I have a USB drive, though. I've read many articles on how to do it, but they all vary, and I am not sure it's what I want (I'm a bit confused with it)
[05:57] <Orange_Tea> I installed vmware server and i try run it by terminal 'vmware' nothing happen it just say http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37705/
[05:57] <nhansen1> anyway whats the easiest way to format everything and install ubuntu fresh without a cd rom?
[05:57] <fermatstheorem> afterlife: not sure dude/dudette. check with msn help pages
[05:57] <chal> fermatstheorem: x86 would that be i386 and 64 do you mean 64 bit
[05:57] <thinkingman> Morning everyone, I'm having trouble getting DVD playback to work in Feisty, tried totem and vlc and neither seem to be able to decode the stream, checked in multiverse and it looks like I should have everything to decode DVDs but still no luck, anyone have any ideas?
[05:57] <nhansen1> or maybe I could just delete windows and tell linux to use the rest of the disk? I'm a bit iffy about the whole wubi thing, though
[05:57] <afterlife> ok thanks
[05:57] <fermatstheorem> chal:x86_64 or am_64
[05:57] <fermatstheorem> chal: same
[05:58] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: !dvd
[05:58] <fermatstheorem> !dvd
[05:58] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:58] <fermatstheorem> !dvd > thinkingman
[05:58] <nhansen1> should I just go for the installation on a USB drive (can I even install it from there onto my laptop?) or do another alternative?
[05:58] <chal> whats  x86_64 or am_64 mean please
[05:59] <chal> fermatstheroem: so its not i386
[05:59] <fermatstheorem> chal: 64 bit architecture
[05:59] <SlimeyPete> chal: 64-bit processors
[06:00] <fermatstheorem> chal: you can install i386/32 bit OS, but wthats the point in buying shiny new core2duo ;-)
[06:00] <chal> i think the imac duo 2 core i have is 32 bit
[06:00] <z9999> Can anyone tell me how to undo the updates just applied that broke my system?
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> iiiii have the powerrrrr
[06:00] <fermatstheorem> chat: core2 duo is 64 bit
[06:00] <fermatstheorem> r00tintheb0x: no, ops have the power
[06:00] <aguitel> anyone work with ati radeon  IGP 330M/340M/350M ?
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> well, not an IRC op.
[06:00] <r00tintheb0x> But a snort op does.
[06:01] <r00tintheb0x> ;)
[06:01] <Orange_Tea> I installed vmware server and i try run it by terminal 'vmware' nothing happen it just say http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37705/
[06:02] <r00tintheb0x> Orange_Tea, all you have to do is install libpng
[06:02] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: run sudo apt-get install libpng12-0 libpng12-dev
[06:02] <gonzaloaf> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu 7.04 in a p1 133Mhz with 160M of RAM?
[06:02] <nhansen1> How should I go about installing Ubuntu without a CDROM drive? I have WINXP and Ubuntu currently, and mainly just want to get rid of windows, but I installed linux with Wubi, so I'm not sure if I should just do a nice fresh install, or what. Anyone know?
[06:03] <tarelerulz> I have been use utorrent for windows and  Now I am use deluge for ubuntu .  Is there something about utorrent that makes it download and share better that is not found in say Deluge ?
[06:03] <dromer> gonzaloaf: sure, but you better not use gnome or kde
[06:03] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: from which museum did you steal that!? ;-) yes you can
[06:03] <SlimeyPete> gonzaloaf: yes, if you use alternate CD
[06:03] <dromer> gonzaloaf: make it a server or run something like blackbox as wm
[06:03] <HotdogWater> nhansen: try googling for a network install with ubuntu
[06:03] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: donot install gnome/kde install fluxbox/blackbox
[06:03] <nhansen1> network install, ok awesome
[06:04] <gonzaloaf> fermatstheorem, maybe xfce
[06:04] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: yup. but donot install gnome apps
[06:04] <gonzaloaf> is it necessary to use the alternate cd?
[06:04] <dromer> gonzaloaf: xfce is too bloathed for that machine
[06:04] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: xubuntu
[06:04] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:04] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: still no luck with the links from ubotu
[06:04] <HotdogWater> gonzaloaf: stay away from xfce on that box
[06:04] <dromer> HotdogWater: hehe
[06:04] <gonzaloaf> HotdogWater, why?
[06:04] <belgarath_> jrib...  thx for your advise......  I created a script and launched it from /etc/rc.local...  works great!!! :D
[06:04] <dromer> gonzaloaf: that pc can't be a full desktop-system, really
[06:05] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: try libpng3
[06:05] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: dedicated firewall..
[06:05] <HotdogWater> gonzaloaf: 133mhz and 16mb of ram? It would be pushing it with xfce. try *box
[06:05] <sdadds272> I have a problem regarding the nvidia glx drivers. I tried installing them by downloading the driver from nvidia's official website. but it didn't work. So someone told me i shoul just install the nvidia drivers from the synaptic package manager, which i did.
[06:05] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater installing.
[06:05] <fermatstheorem> gonzaloaf: or you can hone your leet terminal skills by not instlling X
[06:06] <sdadds272> After i enabled the driver, it told me to restart the x-server, which i also did. problem is now that it doesn't restart/doesn't go back to the desktop
[06:06] <moofoo> hello, is there a backport of openoffice 2.3 for feisty somewhere?
[06:06] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: even with libdvdcss2 installed neither totem or vlc can read any dvd...
[06:06] <sdadds272> I've had this problem for ages, can't figure whats the problem
[06:06] <qleq4> does anyone know how to make a digital camera work with feisty fawn? I have connected my Canon, turned it on, and lsusb shows nothing!
[06:07] <fermatstheorem> qleq4: dmesg|tail?
[06:07] <HotdogWater> qleq4: try restarting X. it's an odd fix for me when ubuntu wont detect usb devices. ctrl+alt+backspace. save your work first
[06:07] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater installed can
[06:07] <qleq4> fermatstheorem: nothing is printed in logs
[06:07] <Inxs> are there any programs for ntfs partition check's for bad sectors
[06:07] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: did it work?
[06:07] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater installed can't open it ?
[06:07] <fermatstheorem> qleq4: camera on? ;-)
[06:07] <qleq4> HotdogWater: are you kidding? :)
[06:07] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: odd. gimme a sec
[06:07] <gonzaloaf> HotdogWater, 160M of RAM
[06:08] <qleq4> fermathstheorem: yes :)
[06:08] <HotdogWater> gonaloaf: ah, misread your msg
[06:08] <beasty_> hello
[06:08] <qleq4> fermatstheorem: pendrives, my iriver player works perfectly
[06:08] <fermatstheorem> qleq4: open the hardware details from sys>admin and check if it islited
[06:08] <fermatstheorem> listed
[06:08] <beasty_> whats up
[06:08] <grunty> qleq4, try a different usb port
[06:08] <lina_> how do I stop a program from running when i log in? every time i log in something called emerald themer starts.
[06:09] <beasty_> hi lina_
[06:09] <callas> sup?
[06:09] <lina_> or emerald theme manager
[06:09] <lina_> hi
[06:09] <dromer> gonzaloaf: 160 mb is nice .. but still, xfce needs a bit more cpu/ram to run smoothly, really, try some other minimal wm
[06:09] <Inxs> I'm booted from CD. Can i check my ntfs partitions for bad sector or how to do whole hdd check?
[06:09] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: libcairo2 libcairo2-dev
[06:09] <qleq4> grunty: I've tried all my ports.. nothing happens
[06:09] <grunty> lina_ emerald theme manager is part of beryl/compiz
[06:10] <fermatstheorem> qleq4: you sure the cam isfine? did you chekc with other compuers
[06:10] <lina_> grunty: ok, how do I stop it from starting when I log in? i always have to close the window
[06:10] <Inxs> I'm booted from CD. Can i check my ntfs partitions for bad sector or how to do whole hdd check?
[06:10] <whileimhere> Hi. How can I add a program to my system that I compiled but requires me to navigate to the folder its located to use it/
[06:10] <USMarine> i can't get beryl work properly with kde
[06:10] <whileimhere> ?
[06:10] <gonzaloaf> dromer, why do I have to use the alternate cd?
[06:10] <callas> interest
[06:10] <USMarine> gonzaloaf LVM ?
[06:10] <grunty> lina_, system->prefrences->session
[06:10] <qleq4> fermatstheorem: my camera worked on my debian sarge :) before I installed ubuntu :)
[06:10] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater is already newest verisiion
[06:10] <fermatstheorem> Inxs:ntfs is not implemented outo fbox
[06:10] <gonzaloaf> USMarine, LVM?
[06:11] <grunty> qleq4, just a thought:)
[06:11] <USMarine> you can only use LVMs with the alternate
[06:11] <dromer> gonzaloaf: because it doesn't have the graficall installer (from the ubuntu wm)
[06:11] <lina_> I looked there. there is only compiz, emerald --replace, network manager, power manager and volume manager
[06:11] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: libcairomm-1.0-1 libcairomm-1.0-dev
[06:11] <gonzaloaf> dromer, ohh ok
[06:11] <dromer> gonzaloaf: it's too heavy for your cpu
[06:11] <lina_> grunty: removing emerald --replace just makes my theme change when i log back in
[06:11] <BernieMac> Anyone know why my audio files suddenly quit working in the Listen player?
[06:11] <fermatstheorem> qleq4: sorry, unless we have a peek at your system there isnothing we can do, if the log shows nothing..strange
[06:11] <rabiddachshund> I don't understand how to install programs without the package manager or a .deb
[06:11] <lina_> grunty: but the program still starts
[06:11] <rabiddachshund> Does it matter where the file is saved?
[06:12] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater downloading ...
[06:12] <grunty> lina_, hmm
[06:12] <USMarine> rabiddachshund no
[06:12] <lina_> grunty: sorry, i don't really know what i'm doing here..
[06:12] <USMarine> just dpkg -i package.deb
[06:12] <fermatstheorem> grunty: tryin to impress the dudette ;-)
[06:12] <grunty> fermatstheorem, who's the dudette?:P
[06:12] <beasty|HateATI> juhu
[06:13] <lina_> fermatstheorem: that supposed to be funny? go fuck your self
[06:13] <fermatstheorem> grunty:lina_ ofcourse
[06:13] <qleq4> fermatsthorem, grunty: thanks anyway :)
[06:13] <Pici> !ohmy | lina_
[06:13] <ubotu> lina_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:13] <Pici> !coc | fermatstheorem
[06:13] <ubotu> fermatstheorem: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:13] <fermatstheorem> lina_: apologies, tryhing to be funny thats all
[06:13] <trym> I removed the /etc/postfix dir by accident after uninstalling it. Now when I try to install it, it says postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/postfix-script: No such file or directory. any ideas how to fix it?
[06:13] <lina_> Pici: perhaps you should refer fermatstheorem to it
[06:13] <rabiddachshund> If I saved the tar.bz2 to the desktop and followed the instructions, does it matter if I delete the folder that it unpacked to my desktop?
[06:13] <gonzaloaf> dromer, is tha alternate cd in the web page? I just see the live cd
[06:14] <dromer> gonzaloaf: afcourse it's there :P
[06:14] <dromer> lemme check
[06:14] <genii> trym: apt-get remove with --purge        then install again
[06:14] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: try looking here http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=484981
[06:14] <grunty> lina_, hmm sorry im not familiar with beryl/compiz but i guess theres a option somewhere
[06:14] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: Slightly different situation, same error
[06:14] <lina_> grunty: np
[06:14] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37706/
[06:14] <dromer> gonzaloaf: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso
[06:14] <Orange_Tea> HotdogWater ok
[06:15] <beasty_Plus_lina> hey lina whats up
[06:15] <grunty> lina_, il have a dig around :)
[06:15] <trym> genii: yeah.. sorry - just realized. I thought I had tried that :)
[06:15] <lina_> thanks
[06:15] <trym> thanks
[06:15] <sdadds272> anyone got a command to install the nvidia-glx-new drivers from terminal?
[06:15] <thinkingman> Anyone have any ideas on why video dvds won't play even with libdvdcss2 properly installed with either totem-xine or vlc?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> sdadds272: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[06:16] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: did you installother restricted codecs..
[06:16] <gnomefreak> sdadds272: might be easier to use restricted driver manager
[06:16] <nathan__> how can I see how much ram I have
[06:16] <nathan__> in GB ?
[06:16] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: yeah pretty much everything I could find
[06:16] <fermatstheorem> nathan__: sys>admin>activity monitor
[06:16] <nbkr> nathan__, run cat /proc/meminfo on the console.
[06:17] <nathan__> nbkr: in GB
[06:17] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman:strange...i just finished a movie in my ubuntubox
[06:17] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: Also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=612521
[06:17] <nbkr> nathan__, divde the result by 1024*1024 :-)
[06:17] <nathan__> how can I in command line, see how much ram I have, in GB?
[06:17] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: included restricted sources in ur repository source?
[06:17] <_CitizenKane_> hi, does anyone know how I can stop adept_notifier from automatically starting?
[06:18] <variant> lina_: nathan__ free -g iirc
[06:18] <sandy> i need to install a file after ./configure if i enter make install output is(make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[06:18] <genii> _CitizenKane_: Rightclick on it's icon in the tray and configure it from there
[06:18] <fermatstheorem> sandy: hit make
[06:18] <variant> lina_: try removing your .gnome2 files or something.. there is probably a session file somewhere that has a emerald-theme-manager entry in it
[06:18] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: yep, restrived, multiverse, universe
[06:18] <USMarine> sandy make
[06:18] <sandy> even then same
[06:18] <fermatstheorem> sandy: make compiles the stuff, make install copies stuff to folders
[06:18] <_CitizenKane_> genii, thanks
[06:18] <variant> nathan__: free -g
[06:19] <fermatstheorem> sandy: did ./configure come die with some error?
[06:19] <genii> _CitizenKane_: np
[06:19] <sandy> Output of make is (make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:19] <radijator> hello everyone
[06:19] <USMarine> no
[06:19] <lina_> i tried that, it didn't work.
[06:19] <USMarine> configure
[06:19] <USMarine> configure has to be successful
[06:19] <grunty> lina_, are you using gnome?
[06:19] <genii> sandy: ./configure
[06:19] <fermatstheorem> sandy: either ./configure failed or the folder doesnt have a 'Makefile'
 i did
[06:20] <chal> fermatstheorem: thanks for the 64 bit info on imac and dual boot what through me is the vmware fusion installed does not have a 32 bit 0r 64 bit package they do not differeniat
[06:20] <lina_> grunty: i am using just ub untu
[06:20] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: libdvdcss2 seems to install/configure correctly, if somewhat quietly
[06:20] <lina_> grunty: whatever it comes with
[06:20] <chal> differeniate
[06:20] <nathan__> how can I show my computer's ram, in GB, using command line or script?
[06:20] <lina_> grunty: yes. gnome
[06:20] <fermatstheorem> chaky:i dont get u
 ya there is a erro in configure
[06:20] <variant> nathan__: free -g
[06:20] <variant> nathan__: did you read that?
[06:20] <sandy> what to do
[06:20] <fermatstheorem> sandy: there ya go!
[06:20] <fermatstheorem> sandy: what is the error
[06:20] <chal> nevermind so its x86 or ad_64 image i need
[06:21] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: the comments on this bug page say how to remove then recreate some symlinks that may fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-player/+bug/47792
[06:21] <fermatstheorem> chal: x86_64
[06:21] <nathan__> variant: that is a chart with all kinds of information
[06:21] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater it worked
 configure: error: you need tapioca-client development packages installed !
[06:21] <HotdogWater> Orange_Tea: oh, okay then
[06:21] <beasty|MakeMove> soon compiz/beryl with fglrx will function or not?
[06:21] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater but wait
[06:21] <nathan__> variant: it requires math to see the amount free..
[06:21] <fermatstheorem> sandy: install the tapioca client dev package from synaptic
[06:21] <rafaelscj> hello all
[06:21] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater all i did was go in terminal and go to proxosi@proxosi-desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo vmware
[06:22] <variant> nathan__: it shows your free ram, used ram, total ram,
[06:22] <Orange_Tea> and it opens vmware
[06:22] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater and it opens vmware
[06:22] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: that's odd.
[06:22] <variant> nathan__: see the heading titled "free" under that is a number, that is your free ram
[06:22] <rafaelscj> how do I to format a MP4?
 in synaptic i am not getting tapioca package at all
[06:22] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater is that how i open vmware from proxosi@proxosi-desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo vmware
[06:22] <grunty> lina_, when you installed compiz did you create your own script to start it?
[06:22] <fermatstheorem> ubuntu has joined #ubuntu! the world is going to implode in a puff of smoke
[06:22] <HotdogWater> orange_tea im going to look for a second, you shouldnt have to open something like vmware with root privs
 i tried there first then i download it from the net
[06:22] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37707/
[06:23] <fermatstheorem> sandy:google for tapioca dev packaqge
[06:23] <nathan__> variant: I don't want free ram only, I want total ram on the system, in gb
[06:23] <lina_> grunty: i didn't install compiz. i have heard the name but i had nothing to do with it
[06:23] <fermatstheorem> sandy: the main package is different from teh dev package
[06:23] <fermatstheorem> sandy: search specifically for the dev package
[06:23] <grunty> lina_, so you dont use a 3d desktop?
[06:23] <CoasterMaster> is there a frontend for truecrypt?
[06:23] <prospero91> Let's play 'I dare you'
[06:23] <nbkr> nathan__, echo "scale=4; `cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal | sed 's/MemTotal://g' | sed 's/kB//g' | sed 's/ //g'`/(1024*1024)" | bc
[06:23] <lina_> grunty: yes, it has  acube and wobbly windows
[06:23] <fermatstheorem> prospero91: truth or dare!
[06:23] <lina_> grunty: but i dindn't install it, i got it from my friend
[06:24] <prospero91> I dare you to type chmod -R 777 * from the root directory
[06:24] <grunty> lina_, ahh right but its still installed
[06:24] <brunner> I can't get visual basic to compile anything in ubuntu
[06:24] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: you don't need to append the $ to directory names
[06:24] <fermatstheorem> brunner: you are kiddin right?
[06:24] <brunner> fermatstheorem: yeah, sorry
[06:24] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater So how would i open the vmware correctly
[06:24] <fermatstheorem> brunner: :-p
[06:25] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: i'm looking it up
[06:25] <lina_> grunty: i have no idea, all I know is that i have a 3d cube and windows that wobble. if i remove emerald --replace from that session thing then my theme is different when i log in but the "emerald theme manager" window still starts
[06:25] <r00tintheb0x> prospero91, why would you say something like that?
[06:25] <grunty> lina_, do you know how to use the terminal?
[06:25] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: if I use vlc to directly open the .vob files from the dvd, I get audio and video playback, but it's garbled..?
[06:25] <lina_> grunty: :( yes
[06:25] <prospero91> Just for kicks I guess.
[06:25] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: but if you wanted to open it with root privileges, then you would just use either sudo vmware or sudo ./usr/bin/vmware
[06:25] <lina_> grunty: i have been shown it anyway
[06:25] <grunty> lina_, ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:25] <Pici> !coc | prospero91
[06:25] <ubotu> prospero91: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:25] <nathan__> nbkr: wow thanks, I have to try to decode that but it works great!
[06:25] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: and with regular privileges either vmware or ./usr/bin/vmware
[06:25] <a4ndr3c> hi
[06:26] <lina_> grunty: lina@lina-desktop:~$ ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[06:26] <lina_> fluxbox.desktop  gnome.desktop
[06:26] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: chekc the preferences (the advanced mode) and find out if there is somethign mssing
[06:26] <z9999> Anyone able to help restore the wireless after applying updates?
[06:26] <grunty> lina_, or just go to /usr/share/xsessions/ within the file browser
[06:26] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman:i use vlc exclusively for dvd,and it works
[06:26] <prospero91> ok, sorry. Thought it would be an interesting discussion topic -- ways to break the computer
[06:26] <a4ndr3c> mplayer rulez!!
[06:26] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater when i close the terminal it close vmwar
[06:27] <BernieMac> prospero91, maybe it would have been in the offtopic forum...
[06:27] <fermatstheorem> prospero91: people get banned for doint such stuff here, control freaks they are
[06:27] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: that's because it's running through the terminal
[06:27] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: I'm not seeing anything missing, but I'm not sure what to look for
[06:27] <Pici> prospero91: This is not constructive.  People here are looking for support.
[06:27] <nathan__> nbkr: when I try doing this to assign it to a variable I get errors: outp=(echo "scale=4; `cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal | sed 's/MemTotal://g' | sed 's/kB//g' | sed 's/ //g'`/(1024*1024)" | bc)
  there are not getting installed it is saying dependency is not satisfiable
[06:27] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: any program you open with the terminal will do that
[06:27] <thinkingman> however, and correct me if I'm wrong, if I can see/hear dvd playback (even if garbled) I'm assuming libdvdcss is installed and configured properly
[06:27] <grunty> lina_, hmm try  gedit  /usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop
[06:27] <fermatstheorem> sandy: which dep
[06:27] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater  so i have to leave the terminal open
[06:27] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: yep
 dont know
[06:28] <grunty> and see what the Exec= line says
[06:28] <grunty> lina_ ^
[06:28] <fermatstheorem> sandy: they probably list down the dependcy..
[06:28] <lina_> grunty: it says Exec=/usr/bin/startfluxbox
[06:28] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: possible
[06:28] <sandy> http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libdevel/libqttapioca-dev <fermatstheorem>
[06:28] <fermatstheorem> sandy: when you tried installing it, what error msg did it give
[06:28] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: PROGRESS!
[06:28] <anks> I am using fiesty on my acer aspire 5100 laptop with amd64 turino processor , my OS crashes after 1-2 hour of usages and report me that I cannot mount or unmount any volume because they are read only, after that I cannot use any program, save anything or even create folders (not even with sudo)
[06:28] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: way to go!
[06:28] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater there this guy saying he solve it but i want see your opinion should i try it out?
[06:28] <a4ndr3c> acer sucks
[06:29] <HotdogWater> orange_tea: sure what's he saying
[06:29] <fermatstheorem> a4ndr3c: me->macbook pro :-p
[06:29] <sandy> dependency is not satisfiable <fermatstheorem>
[06:29] <nbkr> nathan__,  outp=`echo "scale=4; \`cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal | sed 's/MemTotal://g' | sed 's/kB//g' | sed 's/ //g'\`/(1024*1024)" | bc`
[06:29] <grunty> lina_, what about gedit /usr/bin/startfluxbox
[06:29] <fermatstheorem> fermatstheorem: which file/package is needed..it throws an error msg when you try to install it
[06:29] <a4ndr3c> fermatstheorem: oh yeah mac rulez and asus too
[06:29] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: I'm not too familiar with vlc, but I enabled stream/save in the advanced options of DVD playback and I've got clear video/audio
[06:30] <fermatstheorem> sandy: did you try installnig via synaptic
[06:30] <lina_> grunty: I have to go, will be back later. thanks for the help so far!
[06:30] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: hi
[06:30] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: funny
[06:30] <grunty> lina_, ok cyas
[06:30] <BMT> once again hello to all !
[06:30] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : sup my man
[06:30] <lina_> :x
[06:30] <thinkingman> fermatstheorem: I take it totem for dvd playback is probably not a good idea?
[06:30] <[nrx] > not a lot.. just stopped watching a dvd and saw this thing blinking heh
 i tried but there are no package of that
[06:30] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: totem is decent
[06:30] <a4ndr3c> totem sucks!!!!
[06:30] <BMT> i want to transfer data to my nextel phone via a data cable.....any linux program out that will let me interface with the phone
[06:30] <Orange_Tea> Hotdogwater thanks
[06:30] <[nrx] > kaffeine is good ;p
[06:31] <nbkr> anks, Are you sure there is no harddisk problem?
[06:31] <minim> why is the fonts so shitty in tribe5?
[06:31] <fermatstheorem> [nrx]  is a kde/nano freak
[06:31] <No1Viking> Guys... I need to connect to a Windows PC remotely from a ubuntu box, any ideas of software to use on both PCs?
[06:31] <[nrx] > ;D
[06:31] <a4ndr3c> lol
[06:31] <[nrx] > No1Viking: try a VNC
[06:31] <nbkr> No1Viking, VNC
[06:31] <[nrx] > !vnc
[06:31] <No1Viking> Is VNC free?
[06:31] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:31] <CoasterMaster> No1Viking, are you looking for just a command line interface or a full X system?  SSH if you just need command line, VNC otherwise
[06:31] <anks> nbkr, hard disk work fine with other os like centos or fedora, i checked usink fsck and it was fine
[06:31] <[nrx] > No1Viking: ye
[06:31] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] :while i sip my latte with my macbok pro :-p
[06:31] <Pici> No1Viking: vnc and rdp both work to connect to windows computers, you can also use samba to share files.
[06:32] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: slippers, cardigan and blanket? :P
[06:32] <BernieMac> Anyone know why my audio files suddenly quit working in the Listen player?
[06:32] <lullis> Hello, all. I need some help to figure out what I need to change in my audio settings.
[06:32] <No1Viking> OK, VNC it is. Thanks guys!!
[06:32] <fermatstheorem> thinkingman: no, better: black turtleneck and blue jeans
[06:32] <a4ndr3c> lullis: check alsa
[06:32] <anks> I am using fiesty since its releases, problem have started just few days ago
[06:32] <BMT> how do  i cancel a process  ?
[06:33] <Pici> !kill | BMT
[06:33] <ubotu> BMT: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:33] <nbkr> anks, Any updates in that time?
[06:33] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : for some reason, os x's disk i/o sucks
[06:33] <lullis> Currently, my sound is working, and I can hear myself when I talk on the mic. But I can't record anything using "Sound Recorder".
[06:33] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: that's because it's a mac
[06:33] <[nrx] > ;x
[06:33] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : now now
[06:33] <lullis> ALso, I made a test call using skype, and it was successful.
[06:33] <BMT> is the kill command the one that i have to know the pid number ?
[06:33] <Pici> BMT: If its a graphical process, you can use xkill, otherwise you need to use a combination of kill and psaux
[06:33] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : the fox said the grapes are sour
[06:33] <a4ndr3c> anks: I have problems with feisty faw.... im downgrade to edgy few days ago
[06:33] <anks> nbkr, I update my machine regularly,
[06:33] <[nrx] > haha
[06:33] <Pici> BMT: sorry, `ps aux`
[06:33] <No1Viking> Can Ubuntu communicate with VNC 4 protocol?
[06:33] <jimcooncat> !freenx
[06:33] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:34] <tkd> new newbie question i am trying to log in as su and it wont let me????
[06:34] <anks> a4ndr3c, really, should I consider it seriously?
[06:34] <Pici> No1Viking: To my knowledge, yes.
[06:34] <fermatstheorem> tkd: try sudo young padawan
[06:34] <No1Viking> Pici, thanks
[06:34] <a4ndr3c> anks: dunno.. my problems despeared when I do that
[06:34] <vivabenfica> hi all
[06:35] <Kilroo> What would (anyone who cares to answer) you consider to be the most likely reason to use FreeNX over VNC+SSH?
[06:35] <afs> tkd: are you trying to use 'su' as the username to log in with?
[06:35] <tkd> fermatstherorem trying to install java plugin for mozilla and am following the instructions,
[06:35] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica: es tuga?
[06:35] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : have you bumped into a girl(real one, not the "16/f/ca") in this channel
[06:35] <Pici> !es
[06:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:35] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: yes
[06:35] <variant> No1Viking: yes
[06:35] <uptownben> Hi All. Can anyone point me to a doc on setting up a "printer" for sending faxes to a HYLAFAX server?
[06:35] <[nrx] > fermatstheorem: Myrtti is :)
[06:35] <tkd> afs i am following these instructions.... http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[06:35] <BMT> Pici, thanks
[06:35] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : wow! maybe i should hang out more often here
[06:36] <afs> tkd: you can use 'sudo -s
[06:36] <nbkr> Kilroo, FreeNX is considered to be faster because of a better compression.
[06:36] <uptownben> Does ubuntu come with that ability built in?
[06:36] <afs> ... 'sudo -s' instead of 'su'
[06:36] <[nrx] > im gonna nip to the shawps for some ph00d.
[06:36] <Myrtti> huh?
[06:36] <[nrx] > get me. all l33t.
[06:36] <fermatstheorem> Myrtti: well, hulloh! courtesy [nrx] 
[06:36] <variant> fermatstheorem: there are probably a few girls here. who cares?
[06:36] <[nrx] > back in a bit :)
[06:36] <Myrtti> _o/
[06:36] <vivabenfica> anyone know of a reliable desktop backup solution ?
[06:36] <a4ndr3c> girls here???!!!???
[06:36] <fermatstheorem> [nrx] : awrigh daawg
[06:36] <anks> a4ndr3c, Is there a way i can find what happpened by seeing logs, because nothing particular is shown by dmesg
[06:37] <tkd> afs whats the -s
[06:37] <fermatstheorem> vivabenfica: rsych
[06:37] <fermatstheorem> variant: who cares!! thats denial man!
[06:37] <ruggrat> Wow, of course the first topic I'll see upon joining this channel is "omg where's the ladies at?"
[06:37] <variant> ruggrat: lol
[06:37] <afs> tkd: 'su' is the 'original' way of becoming root. it has been replaced in ubuntu by 'sudo' which you can use in front of any command to execute it as root
[06:37] <fermatstheorem> Myrtti: i gues you are of the geeky types/ regular ones ? ig et scared by regular women
[06:38] <a4ndr3c> anks: do really check every thing in dmesg? maybe something missing
[06:38] <tkd>  afs ahh ok thanks that makes sense to me
[06:38] <fermatstheorem> tkd, afs: sudo was there way befre ubuntu
[06:38] <afs> and if you use 'sudo -s' you get an interctive shell as the root-user, in effect behaving the same as the classical 'su'
[06:38] <afs> fermatstheorem: i know
[06:38] <fermatstheorem> tkd, afs: they have disabled root user by defaul
[06:38] <a4ndr3c> anks: do me a favor, when u reboot your computer, check if are any network manager errors
[06:38] <Rick__> hi
[06:38] <tkd> thanks a ton
[06:39] <vivabenfica> fermatstheorem: i was hoping to back up to an external disk, hopefully using an app with a gui
[06:39] <fermatstheorem> tkd: i suggest you use only sudo to prevent any irrepairable damage to your genetila
[06:39] <tkd> gonna try this now
[06:39] <anks> a4ndr3c, please will you consider looking at my dmesg report
[06:39] <fermatstheorem> lia
[06:39] <Rick__> i got my sound drivers installed but apparently i cant access to the alsa mixer... is there any ways to adjust the sounds, etc
[06:39] <abadtooth> Hey guys, I have a small problem... while typing I can't just hold my backspace key to erase words, I can't even hold the arrow keys to scroll around on ANY text input area, not even open office! I really need this dealt with, it's killing my productivity!
[06:39] <tkd> fermastheorem definatly dont want that
[06:39] <vivabenfica> Rick__: run alsamixer
[06:39] <kalani> anyone know how I can view the whole desktop cube in Ubuntu Beryl?
[06:39] <a4ndr3c> anks: why not, send to me: 4ndr3@dcc.online.pt
[06:39] <theine> Debian FTW!
[06:39] <fermatstheorem> kalani: alt ctrl +click and drag
[06:39] <theine> Just kidding...
[06:40] <Rick__> vivabenfica,  ok.. then
[06:40] <fermatstheorem> abadtooth:u sure,,strange sutff
[06:40] <fermatstheorem> stuff
[06:40] <afs> tkd: basically you should learn to do as much as possible under your regular account, and only use sudo in front of specific commands that require root-privileges
[06:40] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica: oh benfiquista? n dizes nada?
[06:40] <abadtooth> fermatstheorem:  yes :(
[06:40] <kalani> fermatstheorem: it works :D. Thanks
[06:40] <fermatstheorem> kalani:you are welcome,
[06:40] <vivabenfica> Rick__: then adjust the levels you want
[06:40] <fermatstheorem> tkd: only andy morton shoudl log in as root
[06:40] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: conhecemos?
[06:41] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, nao apenas ja n via um tuga aqui ha mt...
[06:41] <abadtooth> does anyone know anything about my problem?
[06:42] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, e como n gosto de benfiquistas....
[06:42] <Rick__> vivabenfica, done.. but still no sound output from my xmms
[06:42] <ali4728> How can I get my 4GB ram recognized by my feisty desktop? It only shows 3.2gb...
[06:42] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: ja agora, se conheces um software de backup (nao atraves de rede), agradecia, sou norte americano casado com uma tuga
[06:42] <Pici> !english | a4ndr3c vivabenfica
[06:42] <ubotu> a4ndr3c vivabenfica: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:42] <dwxreaper> wtf, my interfaces config file is okay, but the NICs don't get IP addresses, everyting was working fine
[06:42] <dwxreaper> before I did, apt-get autoremove ntop
[06:42] <WilliamB> ali4728, do you have an onboard video card?
[06:43] <vivabenfica> Rick__: do you get sound from anything?
[06:43] <USMarine> please, keep football out of the channel
[06:43] <ali4728> WilliamB: yes I do Nvidia
[06:43] <USMarine> ali4728 that's proly not onboard
[06:43] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, i use a external disk for backups, do u mean backup your linux machine?
[06:43] <WilliamB> ali4728, so it's built into the motherboard?
[06:43] <nbkr> abadtooth, Check the keyboard settings. There is something called "Repetition" with two scrollbars next to them
[06:43] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: yes
[06:44] <ali4728> WilliamB: so you mean it is a constraint bec. of MB?
[06:44] <abadtooth> nbkr: Okay, thanks let me check that...
[06:44] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: what software do you use?
[06:44] <nanonyme> gnomefreak, ban evasion?
[06:44] <Rick__> vivabenfica, nope
[06:44] <vivabenfica> Rick__: beyond me
[06:44] <abadtooth> nbkr:  THANK YOU!!!!
[06:45] <nbkr> abadtooth, No problem - you're welcome :-)
[06:45] <abadtooth> nbkr:  I never changed those settings so I don't know how it was de-selected :P
[06:45] <abadtooth> But thanks again! now I can Get back to work :P
[06:45] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, sorry , define backup (in your situation) please
[06:46] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, u want to backup .confs and stuff?
[06:46] <WilliamB> ali4728, I mean that if the video card is built into the motherboard and not an actual PCI-Express/AGP/PCI card installed on the computer, then the video card will "steal" part of your main memory for it's own uses
[06:47] <CarlF1> does the live cd have a win virus scanner?
[06:47] <fermat> hulloh
[06:47] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: copy ~/ to external drive, maintaining file dates, and doing so incrementally
[06:47] <amjad> hello i have a question, can i do voice chat with ubuntu 7.1
[06:47] <amjad> on yahoo messenger??
[06:47] <fermat> CarlF1: clamav is available in ubuntu, but not in live cd
[06:47] <fermat> i was nice and helping folks, and i get banned :-(
[06:48] <Seveas> fermat, avoiding bans will only make sure the bans won't be removed.
[06:48] <CarlF1> fermat: will it scan a fs and look at all the .exe like things?
[06:48] <vivabenfica> CarlF1 clamav is kind of a pain to use. avg has a free antivirus scanner but it isn't open source
[06:48] <fermat> CarlF1: clamav? yup it does
[06:48] <nbkr> amjad, I'don't think Yahoo MSG is able to do voice chat.
[06:49] <CarlF1> friends win laptops is 'weird' so I figure a virsu scan is not a bad idea
[06:49] <r00tintheb0x> nbkr, gyache is able to do yahoo voice chat.
[06:49] <michaelramm> YM does do voice
[06:49] <a4ndr3c> vivabenfica, humm ok ,in ~ there is a lot of config files of the programs that are instaled, i give u a link that helps u
[06:49] <amjad> yes it does on windows
[06:49] <ali4728> WilliamB: 800/4000 MB would go to video card? Can ubuntu desktop see more 4 GB ? does it have a limit like $MS XP?
[06:49] <CarlF1> one flavor of 'weird' is norton AV "turned itself off"
[06:49] <fermat> amjad: unfortunately , folks in yahoo aren't willig to help us linux users
[06:50] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728,  what do you mean by a limit?
[06:50] <Naitse> hi! there is a way to install ubuntu on a pendrive to make it portable BUT that it keep the changes?
[06:50] <amjad> so there is no application that does that in linux??
[06:50] <vivabenfica> CarlF1 this is windows stuff, but try tuneup
[06:50] <vivabenfica> amjad: google it
[06:50] <WilliamB> ali4728, possibly...check your BIOS to see if it's taking a percentage of RAM or is set to "auto"... as for a limitation on total RAM, I doubt that ubuntu has one...ask others
[06:50] <amjad> there is ekiga, but never tried it
[06:50] <CarlF1> vivabenfica: thanks.  url?
[06:50] <amjad> may be i will try it
[06:51] <UbuntuGuy> Hi -- looking for help with DLINK wireless PCI card on feisty.  I start up feisty fine, but DHCP gets no response from the wireless router.  I manually do ifdown and ifup and DHCP gets a valid IP no prob.  What could be stopping it from working during startup?
[06:51] <vivabenfica> CarlF1 google
[06:51] <uptownben> I can't seem to figure out how to setup ubuntu to to print to a hylafax server
[06:51] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: url?
[06:52] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: I got 4GB ram but only 3.2GB of it recognized by feisty. Someone suggested it is bec of onboard video steal some of it..
[06:52] <themaster369> hi everyone...quick question...
[06:52] <fermat> themaster369: pray state your problem
[06:53] <themaster369> trying to mount a dvd rom drive so i can boot from dvd from virtual box
[06:53] <[nrx] > la
[06:53] <rafaelscj> !mkfs
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, thats a lot of ram for a video card to steal.. .800mb?
[06:53] <vivabenfica> !hubackup
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hubackup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <fermat> themaster369:and...
[06:53] <themaster369> but i get error when i browse to cd dvd...it says unable to mount media
[06:53] <rafaelscj> how do I to format a pendrive/mp4?
[06:53] <CarlF1> themaster369: you probably don't need to mount it
[06:53] <themaster369> when i browse within ubuntu
[06:53] <Dr_willis> ali4728,  check your bios settings. ive seen machines that have the onboardvideo/ram be selectable.
[06:54] <vivabenfica> a4ndr3c: ??
[06:54] <CarlF1> themaster369: but if you can't browse it, it probably doesn't have errors
[06:54] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: thats what I thought but no one seems to use near 4GB ram for a desktop...
[06:54] <CarlF1> er..?!
[06:54] <themaster369> theres a dvd with ISO in there
[06:54] <CarlF1> themaster369: but if you can't browse it, it probably has errors
[06:54] <themaster369> i cant open it or explore it
[06:54] <CarlF1> I need more coffee
[06:55] <rafaelscj> !mkreiserfs
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkreiserfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <themaster369> it keeps saying unable to mount media
[06:55] <stefg> !reiserfs | rafaelscj
[06:55] <ubotu> rafaelscj: reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[06:55] <uptownben> I can't seem to figure out how to setup ubuntu to to print to a hylafax server
[06:55] <ali4728> Dr_willis: ram shows 4gb, r u guessing?
[06:55] <nbkr> ali4728, Sometimes there are problems with 32bit systems that have 4GB ram.
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, you have 4x1G of ram?
[06:55] <themaster369> any ideas anyone?
[06:56] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: correct
[06:56] <r00tintheb0x> ali what does the ram read @ when you only leave 1G in it?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> ali4728,  im thinking nbkr  is on the right track.. you are loseing .8gb of ram. thats a little.. odd.
[06:56] <genii> uptownben: The hylafax server taking PS input?
[06:57] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: 1gb
[06:57] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, what is the make and model of your mother board and memory?
[06:57] <ali4728> Dr_willis: thats what I thought
[06:57] <r00tintheb0x> ALI, when you leave a gig in it... it reads it as a gig?
[06:58] <nbkr> ali4728, It's an addressing problem. Ever tried to install a 64bit OS?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> ali4728,  see if you can track down a 64bit disrto/live cd. see if it shows all the ram.
[06:59] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: MB: ASUS M2NPV-VM
[06:59] <r00tintheb0x> and...
[06:59] <r00tintheb0x> ALI, when you leave a gig in it... it reads it as a gig?
[06:59] <home_> Hello I am running kubuntu on my machine with xp pro, how do i edit grub so the xp is the default boot?
[07:00] <r00tintheb0x> or 20% less than whats in it...
[07:00] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: not axactlt 1024 mb
[07:00] <Dr_willis> home_,  its a text file. :) you  use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:00] <r00tintheb0x> okay ali so with 1GB of ram the onboard uses none?
[07:00] <r00tintheb0x> What kind of ram do you have ali
[07:00] <genii> uptownben: At any rate you may need package hylafax-client
[07:01] <Dr_willis> home_,  set the 'default' to be the one you want. or uncomment the 'windows' example entry to make windows #1 on the grub list
[07:01] <sandy> what is the best cd or dvd writhing software
[07:01] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: right
[07:01] <Intangir> how do i scroll up in a screen window?
[07:01] <Pici> !burner | sandy
[07:01] <ubotu> sandy: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:01] <Dr_willis> home_,  note that grub starts counting at 0, not 1, so if windows is the 8th entry on your menu, you would set the default to be 7
[07:01] <uptownben> genii: I believe so, I have a completely seperate machine set up as my HylaFax server, I can send faxes with no problem from my windows clients and I wanted to do the same from my ubuntu workstation.
[07:01] <r00tintheb0x> ali are you booted up with 1 or 4 gb right now?
[07:02] <uptownben> genii: I installed hylafax-client on my ubuntu workstation already.
[07:02] <home_> Dr_willis: What is the command to type in terminal?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> home_,  its a text file. :) you  use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:02] <home_> dr_willis: tks:)
[07:02] <Dr_willis> or use some other editor then nano
[07:02] <Andeh> Hi. Yesterday I made a joke that I'll never get to doing my homework unless someone kicks me from #ubuntu-offtopic, so someone kicked me.
[07:02] <Andeh> Would an operator please unban me now?
[07:02] <Andeh> lol
[07:02] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: I am on $MS right now
[07:02] <PriceChild> Andeh, #ubuntu-ops please
[07:03] <r00tintheb0x> ali with 1g or 4g in it?
[07:03] <Rick__> hi all.. i have got my sound driver installed and edited the modprobe file but, no sound output from any app
[07:03] <themaster369> does anyone know about unable to mount errors for dvd drives ?
[07:03] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: 3.2 as well
[07:03] <r00tintheb0x> ok ali4728 hold up
[07:03] <Dr_willis> themaster369,  try mounting it manually yet?  got any specific error messages?
[07:04] <r00tintheb0x> so 3.2G would mean your video card is sucking up 800MB of RAM?
[07:04] <r00tintheb0x> no...
[07:04] <themaster369> yes. when i try and access the dvd drive it says unable to mount media
[07:05] <themaster369> then after it says theres probably no media in the drive
[07:05] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: maybe thats right
[07:05] <themaster369> and there is media..i took the dvd out and put in my windows dvd drive and say contents
[07:05] <uptownben> Does this mean that I will not be able to print directly from my apps? It looks like it's a 2 step process on *nix.
[07:06] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, is all the ram the same?
[07:06] <uptownben> first print to a PS file , then send the PS file to the Hylafax server view gfax or something else.. is this correct?
[07:06] <themaster369> i think ubuntu has not mounted my dvd drive or i accidently unmounted it
[07:06] <r00tintheb0x> and ali4728, is it all DDR2 800 ?
[07:06] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: same make 4x1gb
[07:06] <themaster369> is there a fast way of checking?
[07:07] <themaster369> dr willis any ideas?
[07:07] <disinterested> well i finally got read and write permissions on my slave hd
[07:08] <neverblue> morning
[07:08] <degrit> I know this is a silly question but - I downloaded an app installer in .bin format, how do I run it ? doubleclicking or typing its name in console won't launch it
[07:08] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, when you boot it up with one gig... how much does the video card allocate?
[07:08] <neverblue> degrit, what program is the .bin ?
[07:08] <genii> uptownben: I'm not sure if the client allows prining direct from apps as a print driver.
[07:08] <Myrtti> ./installer.bin BUT read the README first
[07:08] <degrit> "Planet Shift"
[07:08] <themaster369> please can someone help...im so close to getting this thing working
[07:09] <neverblue> then consult the README <-- its called that for a reason :)
[07:09] <degrit> says in the manual "follow your distro's specs to install"
[07:09] <neverblue> !anyone | themaster369
[07:09] <ubotu> themaster369: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:09] <degrit> it's only a .bin, no readme files
[07:09] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, whats the problem... i'll help.
[07:09] <neverblue> degrit, check where you downloaded it
[07:09] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, i think you need a kernel w/large mem support
[07:09] <degrit> that's where it says to follow my distro's specs
[07:09] <degrit> P:
[07:09] <themaster369> oh jeez..lol ive said 3 times...what does ! anyone mean anyway?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> degrit,  normally ya chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin
[07:09] <genii> uptownben: At one time I used hylafax, but have since switched to mgetty-sendfax
[07:09] <Dr_willis> degrit,  or 'bash whatever.bin'
[07:09] <themaster369> im trying to sort out a dvd rom problem
[07:09] <degrit> ok will try thanks
[07:10] <themaster369> it says unable to mount media
[07:10] <neverblue> !enter
[07:10] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !bot
[07:10] <themaster369> !enter
[07:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:10] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: I thought soo but irs too much 4 a new bee like myself, tnx 4 trying to help
[07:10] <rambo3> !anything anything'
[07:10] <r00tintheb0x> ok themaster369 what are you trying to mount?
[07:10] <Dr_willis> themaster369,  !stuff are bot cvommands to paste common faq/factoids
[07:10] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, hold up.
[07:10] <r00tintheb0x> im still  looking.
[07:10] <degrit> worked a treat Doc, thx
[07:10] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: ok
[07:11] <themaster369> well basically..i installed virtual box...but it cant see my dvd rom drive
[07:11] <grigora> Does anyone know how scripts in /etc/cron.d get executed? are they run with anacron as well?
[07:11] <themaster369> so i navigated to places>my computer tried to open dvd rom drive
[07:11] <themaster369> and i get error
[07:11] <themaster369> unable to mount media theres probaly no media in drive
[07:11] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: maybe I can install a server version of U.. than add gbome etc..
[07:11] <mikebot> Does anyone here know how to install snort?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> themaster369,  if its like vmware - you need to set the virtualbox machine settings to access the actual physical drive., You are running Ubuntu Under virtualbox under windows? or linux? or what?
[07:12] <r00tintheb0x>  virtual box?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !info snort
[07:12] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-9 (feisty), package size 341 kB, installed size 824 kB
[07:12] <Leon_home> i installed phpMyAdmin 2.9.1.1-Debian-2ubuntu1 and when i am trying to log-in i get the msg :1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES) (i am not sure what i should type in username & password box ) ??
[07:12] <Dr_willis> mikebot,   apt-get install snort
[07:12] <themaster369> virtualbox installed on ubuntu
[07:12] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, no need.
[07:12] <mikebot> Dr_willis: I did that, but I can't find it anywhere or anything
[07:12] <themaster369> trying to install windows xp
[07:12] <themaster369> on virtual environmet
[07:12] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  this is when you woild start with 'man snort' and look in /usr/share/docs I belive.
[07:12] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, what you need to do is reboot into linux, and paste me the output from "dmesg"
[07:12] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  dont expect an icon or entry in the menus.
[07:13] <rlount> mikebot, suod updatedb the locate snort
[07:13] <r00tintheb0x> ok themaster... what virtual enviroment
[07:13] <themaster369> but i cant seem to access dvd drive at all through ubuntu OS
[07:13] <rlount> s/suod/sudo
[07:13] <bluefox83> how do i open gconf editor?
[07:13] <themaster369> virtualbox
[07:13] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: ok will take some time
[07:13] <r00tintheb0x> ok ali
[07:13] <themaster369> i tried 3 weeks to get vmware installed but had no luck
[07:13] <bluefox83> !gconf
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, access or see the cd drive?
[07:14] <themaster369> jrib helped me put on virtualbox today
[07:14] <themaster369> i can see the dvd /cd drive
[07:14] <mikebot> rlount: Yikes, what>
[07:14] <neverblue> when I ssh into a box, that I have placed my key onto, why am I still prompted with : Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes ?
[07:14] <mikebot> Dr_willis: OK, I'll look in the manual
[07:14] <themaster369> but not access it...in both environments
[07:14] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, you can see it inside the guest or host OS?
[07:14] <genii> Leon_home: Usually user should be mysql and password defaults to same
[07:14] <locky69> hello
[07:15] <rlount> mikebot, sudo updatedb updates your slocate database, the you can call locate to find things.
[07:15] <themaster369> i dont what that means rootinbox
[07:15] <mikebot> Dr_willis: I was hoping for a nice interface and easy menus :)
[07:15] <r00tintheb0x> ok themaster369 do you have virtualbox installed on ubuntu?
[07:15] <mikebot> sudo: updateb: command not found
[07:15] <mikebot> ah
[07:15] <themaster369> even when virtual box is closed i cant see it
[07:15] <r00tintheb0x> And Windows installed on virt box?
[07:15] <BMT> what is another good video player i can use besides xine, gxine, and kaffeine
[07:15] <BMT> especially for .wmv files
[07:15] <themaster369> yes ubuntu installed
[07:15] <r00tintheb0x> oh themaster369
[07:15] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  dident research snort much eh? there might be some front ends..
[07:15] <rlount> mikebot, check typo
[07:16] <mikebot> rlount: Got it, thanks.
[07:16] <rlount> updatedb
[07:16] <bluefox83> whats the channel for ubuntu compiz stuff?
[07:16] <rlount> np
[07:16] <r00tintheb0x> So ubuntu cant see your cdrom
[07:16] <afs> BMT: mplayer.
[07:16] <bluefox83> ubuntu-affects?
[07:16] <r00tintheb0x> thats simple.
[07:16] <themaster369> yes virtualbox installed on ubuntu
[07:16] <mikebot> Dr_willis: Didn't at all... I used to use Peerguardian on windows, and I'm trying to find something kinda like that.
[07:16] <r00tintheb0x> ok open up a terminal
[07:16] <BMT> afs, thanks..i will try that
[07:16] <genii> bluefox83: #ubuntu-effects
[07:16] <dwxreaper> how to I set permissions for a directory it's subdirectories and files at once?
[07:16] <themaster369> terminal open
[07:16] <afs> BMT: in my experience that program eats everything. including iso-images containing an avi file and such
[07:16] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  peerguardian is not like 'snort'  if i rember right. Peerguardian is an anti-spam/ad/whatever  proxy
[07:17] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  i thought 'privoxy' was the linux  port of peerguardian
[07:17] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, type "lshw |grep CD"
[07:17] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  i may be confused however. :) been ages since i used peerguardian
[07:17] <Dr_willis> !find peerguardian
[07:17] <ubotu> Package/file peerguardian does not exist in feisty
[07:17] <Dr_willis> !info privoxy
[07:17] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.6-1 (feisty), package size 1248 kB, installed size 2804 kB
[07:17] <mikebot> Dr_willis: No, I don't know anything about snort, so I could be very wrong.
[07:17] <r00tintheb0x> TheMafia, do you see your cdrom there?
[07:17] <mikebot> I'll look at privoxy, thanks.
[07:17] <dwxreaper> how to I set permissions for a directory it's subdirectories and files at once?
[07:17] <themaster369> ok its says WARNING: you should run this program as super-user
[07:18] <preaction> dwxreaper, chmod -R
[07:18] <r00tintheb0x> okay, then do this.
[07:18] <r00tintheb0x> "sudo -i"
[07:18] <r00tintheb0x> then "lshw |grep CD"
[07:18] <themaster369> done
[07:18] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  snort is proberly NOT what you are looking for then. Check out 'Tor' and 'privoxy' for web surfing anonimity. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> !tor
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <Dr_willis> !info tor
[07:18] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.26-1 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1740 kB
[07:18] <travisbickle> How do I print from one ubuntu computer to another over the network?
[07:19] <dwxreaper> thanks
[07:19] <dwxreaper> now how would I delete a directory, and all it's contents, subdirs, and files
[07:19] <r00tintheb0x> ok themaster369 do you see anything cdrom related in there?
[07:19] <mikebot> Dr_willis: Thanks... I tried to configure Tor for Opera but couldn';t gfet it working... also I heard about people making fake end websites for banks or something..
[07:19] <dwxreaper> rm something?
[07:19] <neverblue> when I ssh into a box, that I have placed my key onto, why am I still prompted with : Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes ?
[07:19] <themaster369> nothing at all
[07:19] <vancomycin> hey all, I finally got ubuntu setup on my laptop - i was wondering, on my xp partition i had run nividia geoforce 7600go laptop drivers from laptopvideo2go, now that doesn't seem to be an option anymore - i selected to opt in for the nvidia restrictred drivers option that appeared from admin>system>restricted - but will i ever be able to get an nvidia display menu like i had in xp again? i.e. to be able to manage performance/temps?
[07:19] <themaster369> it prompted for password then nothing came up
[07:20] <hoster> http://castlehost.0lx.net/index.php
[07:20] <dwxreaper> how do I delete a directory
[07:20] <r00tintheb0x> themaster
[07:20] <themaster369> this is so confusing
[07:20] <r00tintheb0x> after you put the pass in.
[07:20] <ljharval> rmdir
[07:20] <pegger> I am using a soekris box net5501 and I can get it to boot the kernel but after that I can see any output after that on the serial port,  I have trited a bunch of diffrent settings in    /etc/inittab  what am I missing
[07:21] <dwxreaper> rm directory fails, says x is a directory
[07:21] <r00tintheb0x> all you have to do is "lshw |grep CD"
[07:21] <dstadulis> how do I force a USB memory drive to not automatically mount? I am trying to partition the drive but it keeps on remount before I can partition
[07:21] <r00tintheb0x> then hit enter
[07:21] <BMT> afs, i just installed mplayer, ...tried to play a .wmv file and got this error : eror opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[07:21] <themaster369> i put password in (my one) then i had command prompt again
[07:21] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  tor and privoxy wont protect you against fake sites. :) tor anonomizes yoru surfing. and privoxy can kill off ads and other tricks. one you blacklist the right sites. :)
[07:21] <r00tintheb0x> i know themaster369
[07:21] <alternatif> Hello All, I am having a networking problem in 7.04. I installed yesterday and was running fine however today when I try to connect to a website via Firefox, opera, or even IE6. It says page can't be displayed. I can ping my router, however I can't connect to it and I am running Win2K in VM and it's networking is fine. any ideas?
[07:21] <r00tintheb0x> thats what its supposed to do.
[07:21] <themaster369> oh ok
[07:21] <Ongaku> hello...I just got GSnes9x...is there a way to configure it to use my keyboard? I don't have a controller
[07:21] <Dr_willis> mikebot,  theres some tor extension for firefox. and a tor frontend tool also. (tonk?) tonky?
[07:21] <frostburn> dwxreaper, rmdir or rm -rf (which directory and file structure)
[07:21] <mikebot> Dr_willis: OK, thanks for your help.
[07:21] <home_> well that was weard, how do i fix this?
[07:22] <nightstalker> Hello friends
[07:22] <nightstalker> Very nice to meet you
[07:22] <Ongaku> hi
[07:22] <nightstalker> I'am in
[07:22] <nightstalker> Ongaku
[07:22] <nightstalker> Hi
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  it can do that. Check its menus/settings. thats a front end for 'snes9x'  you may want to check the docs for snes9x also. also check out 'zsnes'
[07:22] <nightstalker> #!
[07:22] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x:my dmesg  http://pastebin.com/m27d7beb0
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  i tend to use 'zsnes' myself.
[07:22] <Ongaku> ok
[07:23] <nightstalker> Upss
[07:23] <Ongaku> that work better than this one?
[07:23] <r00tintheb0x> ok hold up ali4728
[07:23] <home_> 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'? its not bringing up the rite file...
[07:23] <Ongaku> can i just apt-get zsnes?
[07:24] <willdev> should swap be logical or primary?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> willdev,  dosent matter
[07:24] <Dr_willis> willdev,  i tend to set all my partitions to primary however
[07:24] <r00tintheb0x> ali4728, [    6.980000]  hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[07:24] <r00tintheb0x> there's your cdrom
[07:24] <willdev> where should swap be, end or beginning?
[07:24] <home_> dr_willis:
[07:25] <Ongaku> ah yeah lol...u can
[07:25] <ali4728> r00tintheb0x: what do you mean?
[07:25] <KurdishSniper> guys what is that channel which helps with compizfusion?
[07:25] <erUSUL> willdev: beginning of disk faster r/w
[07:25] <erUSUL> !effects | KurdishSniper
[07:25] <ubotu> KurdishSniper: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[07:25] <r00tintheb0x> ali, "mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom"
[07:25] <r00tintheb0x> paste that.
[07:26] <genii> willdev: Conventional swap is at beginning, for esoteric reasons of platter speed /read speed at that part of hard drive. can be anywhere however.
[07:26] <dwxreaper> i removed a package with apt-get remove X, and it is not totally gone, why is that :/
[07:26] <KurdishSniper> thanks
[07:26] <willdev> ok thanks
[07:26] <willdev> should the / partition be bootable?
[07:26] <dwxreaper> is there a way to uninstall a program in ubuntu
[07:26] <erUSUL> willdev: there is no need
[07:27] <willdev> ok
[07:27] <dstadulis> how do I force a USB memory drive to not automatically mount? I am trying to partition the drive but it keeps on remount before I can partition
[07:27] <rambo3> dwxreaper: use --purge
[07:27] <home_> can some one help me? my os is KUBUNTU and xp pro, i need to edit grub some how to make xp start first
[07:27] <Ongaku> ok guess you cant...how the hell do you install these lol
[07:27] <erUSUL> dwxreaper: synaptic or applications Add/*remove* programs
[07:27] <fav3> Hello All, I am having a networking problem in 7.04. I installed yesterday and was running fine however today when I try to connect to a website via Firefox, opera, or even IE6. It says page can't be displayed. I can ping my router, however I can't connect to it and I am running Win2K in VM and it's networking is fine. any ideas?
[07:27] <erUSUL> dwxreaper: apt-get remove ?
[07:27] <frostburn> dwxreaper, apt-get remove package
[07:27] <[nrx] > dstadulis: unmount it?
[07:27] <dwxreaper> frostburn: that's what i did
[07:27] <ljharval> home: you need to edit a file
[07:27] <dwxreaper> but it still has a files and shit laying around after that, and it messes up re-installation
[07:27] <uptownben> Hi all. I had to reboot, but I'm still trying to fingure out how I can print from my apps directly to my remote Hylafax server.
[07:28] <Citizen_Kane> what is the name of "3d effects" desktop ?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | dwxreaper
[07:28] <ubotu> dwxreaper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:28] <dstadulis> [nrx] : I do but then When I partition it it mount it before I try and partition it
[07:28] <travisbickle> Can someone help me print? I know how to configure it with Samba but not ubuntu ->>>ubuntu?
[07:28] <frostburn> dwxreaper, apt-get autoclean/remove
[07:28] <dstadulis> I'll unmount it but it mounts again before I partition it
[07:28] <ljharval> home_, there s a directory in root i think called grub its in there
[07:28] <home_> help
[07:28] <genii> home_: There is an entry of around 5 lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst which chainloads XP/Windows. Move those lines above the first linux entry.
[07:29] <themaster369> rootinthebox any ideas?
[07:29] <Ongaku> its a taz.bz2 file...how do you install it? I got it off teh zsnes website
[07:29] <r00tintheb0x> master
[07:29] <Dr_willis> genii,  theres an example entry abobve all them that you can just uncomment also.
[07:29] <home_> i feel stupid i am so not geek
[07:29] <atlfalcons866> will i see a speed difference if i use xfs over jfs
[07:29] <disinterested> dstadulis: ru useing gparted?:
[07:29] <genii> Dr_willis: Ah, good :)
[07:29] <dstadulis> disinterested: Yes
[07:29] <ljharval> genii, you can change the number that boots first so you dont mave anything around
[07:29] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, what was the output of "sudo lshw |grep CD"?
[07:30] <dwxreaper> i did a autoclean, then remove, then uninstall, then install. before the package installed ok
[07:30] <disinterested> u can unmount it there and partition it
[07:30] <Dr_willis> home_,  the line -------> default         0
[07:30] <genii> ljharval: The "savedefault" thing i find doesn't work
[07:30] <dstadulis> disinterested: I am trying to follow this tutorial: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/07/03/xubuntu-feisty-now-from-usb-drive/  and It recoommends you use thunar to keep your drive from remounting
[07:30] <hyphenated> home_: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:30] <home_> ok i typed in konsole 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:30] <dwxreaper> now it does not work right, I can run the software from the command line, but when I installed it from the package the first time
[07:30] <Dr_willis> home_,  selects what default entry to boot. edit that 0 to be the # of the windows entry.
[07:30] <themaster369> it did something then came back to root
[07:30] <dwxreaper> it pushed many arguments and it's what I needed
[07:30] <genii> Dr_willis: Tells you how much attention i pay to the commented lines there nowadays... ;)
[07:30] <dstadulis> disinterested: and I did follow the steps it suggested
[07:30] <shaquille> anyone know how to make unrar extract multiple archives at once that are in the same directory? i tried unrar x *.rar but it doesn't work
[07:30] <Dr_willis> genii,  i always uncomment them so i got windows at 0 position,. and it wont move about. :)
[07:31] <Dr_willis> genii,  makes setting the default easier.
[07:31] <disinterested> it took me several times to get read and write on mine
[07:31] <Ongaku> this is weird...how u do this? it says I can't open it
[07:31] <rambo3> shaquille: just the first
[07:31] <themaster369> i got the next line
[07:31] <home_> ok i got something pulled up here says menu.lst
[07:31] <hyphenated> home_: ok, good. now find the line that says 'default 1'
[07:31] <themaster369> almost as if nothing happened
[07:31] <hyphenated> or default 0
[07:31] <themaster369> does that mean my DVD is missing?
[07:31] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, does it look something like this? http://pastebin.ca/raw/700904
[07:31] <uptownben> Does anyone fax from ubuntu?
[07:32] <home_> there is one without a # that says default 0
[07:32] <shaquille> rambo3: what do you mean?
[07:32] <hyphenated> home_: the # means it's a comment
[07:32] <dstadulis> disinterested: so I unmount it, then I refresh my devices to check to see if it is unmounted and it is mounted again :(
[07:32] <hyphenated> home_: none without a comment?
[07:32] <Ongaku> im a total newb to this...just started using this last week...so I don't know how to install a file with out doing apt-get insall
[07:32] <themaster369> nope
[07:32] <Ongaku> install*
[07:32] <themaster369> nothing comes up at all
[07:32] <themaster369> its just blank!!!
[07:32] <disinterested> why ru refreshing?
[07:33] <hyphenated> home_: mine says "default         1", you should make yours say "default         saved"
[07:33] <home_> one line says default 0 and the other line without a # says timeout 10
[07:33] <rambo3> shaquille: unrar e file1.rar
[07:33] <r00tintheb0x> okay themaster369 hold up
[07:33] <dstadulis> disinterested: to check to see if it is unmounted, should I not do that?
[07:33] <themaster369> sure
[07:33] <themaster369> why do people put! then someones name?
[07:33] <disinterested> do u get a disk icon on ur desktop when its mounted?
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X>  #beauce
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X>  #beaucesry
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> grrr
[07:34] <Ongaku> The filename "zsnes151src.tar.bz2" indicates that this file is of type "tar archive (bzip-compressed)". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system. wtf that mean lol
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> Sorry
[07:34] <B_166-ER-X> my err.
[07:34] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, do you get anything back from this command?? "grep cdrom /etc/fstab"
[07:34] <dstadulis> disinterested: The reason I was refreshing is because when I unmount it I get a popup of a directory called disk-1 and a lost&found directory inside
[07:34] <genii> themaster369: When you see !something | a-name       people are telling the bot to spit up some info it knows about and direct it to a specific user
[07:35] <giany911> i need a little bit of help .. how can i convert some .ogg's  and make an audio cd?
[07:35] <disinterested> in gparted when u unm,ount the drive it should stay unmounted
[07:35] <themaster369> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37709/
[07:35] <avds> who and why decided to make 'admin' a restricted name in gutsy?
[07:35] <themaster369> heres my output
[07:35] <avds> it's really annoying
[07:35] <themaster369> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37709/
[07:35] <dstadulis> disinterested: I think maybe because it is a usb thumbdrive it is trying to remount it automatically.
[07:35] <giany911> i need a little bit of help .. how can i convert some .ogg's  and make an audio cd?
[07:35] <shaquille> hmm. that didn't work. each archive is different, they're not numbered archives
[07:36] <ozozo> hi
[07:36] <Ongaku> do i do that cd thinger and ./configure it? the tar.bz2 file?
[07:36] <avds> as most people use admin in servers for, well, administrator accounts
[07:36] <themaster369> hi ozozo
[07:36] <disinterested> try doing it without refreshing and see if u can complete the operation
[07:36] <rambo3> giany911: use k3b
[07:36] <dstadulis> giany911: soundconverter
[07:36] <avds> where should I complain in regard "who and why decided to make 'admin' a restricted name in gutsy?"
[07:37] <giany911> thx
[07:37] <rambo3> avds: #null
[07:37] <home_> how do i saave now using 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:37] <themaster369> rootinthebox ill be back in 20mins i pasted results here
[07:37] <frostburn> avds, you can't use adduser to make an admin account?
[07:37] <LjL> avds: in #ubuntu+1, since that's the Gusty channel. but aside from that... i don't know about this issue, but "admin" has always been the name of a *group* in Ubuntu. better avoid creating, say, users with the name "admin"
[07:37] <genii> avds: Try #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <dstadulis> disinterested: ok so this is what I tried: refresh, unmount, delete partition, create new partition, get an error message: "/dev/sdf2 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!"
[07:38] <erUSUL> home_: Crtl + O and then Crtl + X
[07:38] <Ongaku> ah someone help me :( how the crap do i install zsnes?
[07:38] <home_> *save
[07:38] <branstrom> How can I get .sit support in File Roller?
[07:38] <branstrom> StuffIt, that is
[07:38] <Dr_willis> !info zsnes
[07:38] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:38] <erUSUL> Ongaku: sudo apt-get remove zsnes
[07:38] <bobgill> I am getting this in aMSN: "The Snack library is needed in order to use this feature. A minimal version of 2.2.9 is necessary." for voice clips
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  sudo apt-get install zsnes
[07:38] <branstrom> The website for file-roller says it supports .sit
[07:38] <Ongaku> i tried that but it doesnt pop up in my applications
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  you are on the 32bit ubuntu? not 64?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  when in doubt.. USE THE shell. :)
[07:38] <r00tintheb0x> themaster369, try "mount /media/cdrom0"
[07:38] <Ongaku> 32 bit
[07:38] <r00tintheb0x> have you tried that?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Ongaku,  menus proberly dident get refreshed or somthing.
[07:39] <disinterested> i dont understand why it keeps mounting i guess u need someone with more experience with that
[07:39] <Ongaku> ah maybe
[07:39] <|Skull|> hey guys, I have an odd (to me) problem here... I have a XFX Geforce 6200, works fine when I have one monitor plugged into the vga port. But, when I plug in my tv as a 2nd monitor on the DVI port and boot up, all is fine, till the login screen, where It's blue with lines going through it.... any ida?
[07:39] <RichW> Hi, the passwd command is missing --stdin. yet redhat systems have it.. i need a way to add my password to ubuntu without having to type manually
[07:39] <avds> using 'administrator' is DULL and reminds me of windows
[07:40] <atlfalcons866> will i see a speed difference if i use xfs over jfs
[07:40] <avds> yet there needs to be an administrator role
[07:40] <Ongaku> still not there...
[07:40] <dstadulis> disinterested: I think it is something to do with it being a usb thumb drive. here is what the tutorial says: "As your partitions need to stay unmounted, I recommend you to turn of Volume ManagementTo do so, open Thunar, ...make sure Enable Volume Management is unchecked."
[07:41] <fav3> Any networking people available? I think I have a simple question
[07:41] <fav3> Hello All, I am having a networking problem in 7.04. I installed yesterday and was running fine however today when I try to connect to a website via Firefox, opera, or even IE6. It says page can't be displayed. I can ping my router, however I can't connect to it and I am running Win2K in VM and it's networking is fine. any ideas?
[07:41] <r00tintheb0x> sure fav whats up?
[07:41] <scratchy> ?j #monnoke
[07:41] <scratchy> oops
[07:41] <Ongaku> wtf...i install it and it doesnt show up in my stuff
[07:41] <scratchy> ? me apologies
[07:42] <fav3> It seems as though I can't get to my router anymore thru any browser. However I'm currently using my windows2K VM so I know the hardware is right
[07:42] <fav3> Something happened to keep me off the net
[07:42] <fav3> I've tried Firefox, OPera and IE6
[07:42] <amimusa> quick question, ubuntu 7.04 or ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[07:42] <fav3> 7.04
[07:43] <Ongaku> what can I do? I installed it thru apt-get install and it doesn't show up in my accessories
[07:43] <[nrx] > amimusa: 7.04
[07:43] <fav3> I can ping my router
[07:43] <fav3> sorry
[07:43] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, what app?
[07:43] <Ongaku> zsnes
[07:43] <amimusa> [nrx] : why ?
[07:43] <frostburn> fav3, do you have an ip?
[07:43] <fav3> yes static
[07:43] <[nrx] > amimusa: because i like it :)
[07:43] <Kr0ntab> try the terminal
[07:43] <willdev> YEY, i installed vista and linux and both of them are dual booting
[07:43] <amimusa> lol
[07:43] <[nrx] > :)
[07:43] <frostburn> can you ping your router, or your router's gateway
[07:43] <motw> i have a compiz question if anyone knows anything about it
[07:44] <fav3> yes, I can pingthe router/gateway
[07:44] <[nrx] > motw: try #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <frostburn> fav3, can you do dns lookups?
[07:44] <motw> ok, thanks
[07:44] <[nrx] > motw: np
[07:44] <fav3> no, Almost like it's not seeing the dns
[07:44] <Ongaku> idk I removed it then reinstalled it and it doesn't show up
[07:44] <Kilroo> I seem to be missing stddef.h, stdarg.h, and several other files that things (Mesa in particular) want to include when I make them. So far everything it has been suggested to me that I might be missing that could cause this, I seem to have installed. Can anyone venture a possible solution?
[07:44] <[nrx] > Kilroo: you need to install the linux headers
[07:44] <fav3> but in my VM which is running now It's fine
[07:44] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, it may not have a Gnome menu item...  you typically launch it from a terminal.  You can also create a launcher in your menu easily.
[07:44] <amimusa> for centrino (core duo) the architecture is i386, isn't it ?
[07:44] <uptownben> How can I print to a fax on ubuntu without having to print to a file first?
[07:44] <r00tintheb0x> fav can you ping by IP?
[07:45] <Kilroo> [nrx] : They're installed.
[07:45] <crabgrass> simple question, and i hope you can help me: i need to make an exact copy of the data on a dvd disc, and mkisofs doesn't seem to be working
[07:45] <fav3> yes
[07:45] <Ongaku> ahh how do you o that?
[07:45] <Ongaku> or how do you launch from terminal...im new
[07:45] <frostburn> fav3, whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:45] <r00tintheb0x> Ok what OS is the GUEST OS on the virtual machine?
[07:45] <fav3> stand by
[07:45] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, accessories... Terminal
[07:45] <[nrx] > Kilroo: you sure
[07:45] <[nrx] > ?
[07:45] <|Skull|> hey guys, I have an odd (to me) problem here... I have a XFX Geforce 6200, works fine when I have one monitor plugged into the vga port. But, when I plug in my tv as a 2nd monitor on the DVI port and boot up, all is fine, till the login screen, where It's blue with lines going through it.... any ideas?
[07:45] <Ongaku> ok..
[07:45] <fav3> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[07:45] <Ongaku> i know that lol
[07:46] <rafaelscj> how can I know what is my pendrive? /dev/XXX...
[07:46] <fav3> whuich is my rouetr
[07:46] <r00tintheb0x> |Skull|, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:46] <fav3> eww nice typing fav
[07:46] <Ongaku> lol "launch zsnes"? or something :P
[07:46] <genii> fav3: There's the problem. No external nameservers
[07:46] <f0rked_> Hello, what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[07:47] <|Skull|> r00tintheb0x what should I look for?
[07:47] <pandora--> noooo ATI drivers dont work in Xorg 7.2! quake!? :( :(
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, just type "zsnes"
[07:47] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude = apt-get + apt-cache
[07:47] <fav3> really? never even knew that file existed
[07:47] <Ongaku> oh ok
[07:47] <pandora--> damnit ATI...
[07:47] <stdin> !aptitude | f0rked_
[07:47] <ubotu> f0rked_: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[07:47] <Ongaku> hahah thanks
[07:47] <fav3> how do I "fix" this
[07:47] <radu> is there a reason why Anjuta IDE has been rolled back to 1.2 version when upstream is 2.x ?
[07:47] <f0rked_> Alright, thanks
[07:47] <Ongaku> now how can i create a menu item for it?
[07:47] <r00tintheb0x> |Skull|, what are you hooking your video card into again? A TV?
[07:47] <Kilroo> [nrx] : According to Synaptic I have linux-headers-2.6.20-15, linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-headers-2.6.20-16, linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-libc-dev.
[07:48] <pandora--> anyone know how to get ATI drivers working in xorg 7.2?
[07:48] <frostburn> fav3, you don't need an external nameserver, as long as your router is working fine.  your vm might have a temporary nameserver list which is why it's still working
[07:48] <callas> yo
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, if you right click on your applications menu, you can edit menu's...  go to games... and add a new item, or launcher...  just give it a name... and the command of "zsnes"
[07:48] <|Skull|> rootvzla ya, vga goes to monitor, dvi goes to tv
[07:48] <Ongaku> ah ok thanks alot kr0ntab
[07:48] <fav3> Yeah I'm sure my router is fine other 3 PC's are all working
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> Ongaku, np..
[07:48] <Ongaku> :)
[07:48] <fav3> just my ubuntu gave up
[07:48] <Ongaku> off to play Lodoss tou Senki :) yay
[07:49] <|Skull|> r00tintheb0x actually, i got it to display a screen now... but it's turned off the dvi port... so i'll continue to screw around with it...
[07:49] <fav3> the funny thign is that even though I can't ping a web address, it doesn't let me connect to my router either
[07:49] <fav3> I should be able to manage my router regardless of DNS
[07:49] <frostburn> indeed
[07:49] <r00tintheb0x> ok |Skull| i've never done it... but basicaly your resolutions messed up. You'er going to have to play w/it to get it correct. This should help. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/index.html
[07:49] <rootvzla> hi Skull
[07:49] <fav3> wonder if I can get to my router thru the VM
[07:50] <genii> frostburn: Might be the static settings for gw or so in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:50] <vancomycin> i was playing around with the desktop effects, just wobble and cube - now my menus all disappeared from bottom and top - how do i reboot w/o powering off?
[07:50] <shrimants> hello, im having a major problem with my graphics card and ubuntu feisty
[07:50] <[nrx] > Kilroo: what are you trying to install?
[07:50] <callas> investigating
[07:50] <Toptyg> hi all
[07:50] <frostburn> vancomycin, ctrl alt backspace, restarts x
[07:50] <astate> i'm using feisty...is there anyway I can install a single package (rails) for gutsy to get the latest version? (1.2.3-2)
[07:51] <brea> Is it possible to install a package from here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/sound/lame) using dpkg or something?
[07:51] <Toptyg> how to install Java for browser on ubuntu ?
[07:51] <Kilroo> [nrx] : Mesa 7.0.1
[07:51] <fav3> Is there a way to "reload" my NIC card?
[07:51] <shrimants> i installed ubuntu just fine, and after it was done updating (but before restarting) i compiled drivers from nvidia. now my grub lists both the .15 and .16 generic kernels, and as far as .16 is concerned, graphics wont boot and screen isnt recognized
[07:51] <dgjones> !java | Toptyg
[07:51] <fav3> That will probably wipe out my VM settings however
[07:52] <frostburn> fav3, /etc/init.d/networking restart might fix it
[07:52] <frostburn> sudo*
[07:52] <vancomycin> ok back thank you whoever told me that
[07:52] <fav3> I do that but I get errors
[07:52] <ubotu> Toptyg: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:52] <genii> fav3: There is also ifconfig ethX up/down
[07:53] <fav3> default nic card is "normally" eth0 right?
[07:53] <shrimants> anyone good with graphics drivers here?
[07:53] <Toptyg> thanks..
[07:53] <frostburn> yes
[07:53] <praet> fav3: yes
[07:53] <BMT> now vlc is not working every piece of software i install to try to watch video is not working
[07:53] <frostburn> ifup eth0 ifdown eth0 works as well, less typing
[07:53] <[nrx] > Kilroo: can you paste the actuall error into a pastebin?
[07:53] <fav3> Is the ifconfig ethX up/down much different than /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:54] <Kilroo> [nrx] : I'll see what I can do. It's going to be freaking huge though.
[07:54] <Citizen_Kane> how to install beyril?
[07:54] <genii> fav3: yes, it doesn't restart entire networking like samba etc. Just that adapter
[07:54] <frostburn> networking restart basically restarts all devices, ifconfig eth0 ip, ifup eth0 just restarts a specific nic
[07:54] <darlok> I did something stupid.  I followed a short tutorial on how to make my screensaver my desktop background.  Problem is, it didn't work and now my desktop doesn't shw any icons at all.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:54] <fav3> ahhh that prolly won't help than I did the init.d one like 4 times
[07:54] <vancomycin> that's weird , the cube desktop effects were working fine for a few minutes - i wanted to try and disable to wobble effect and now the cube effect doesnt work when selecting...
[07:55] <[nrx] > Kilroo: that's fine :)
[07:55] <Kilroo> It will also take me a little while.
[07:55] <[nrx] > Kilroo: also, try sudo apt-get install freeglut3-dev
[07:55] <fav3> something just isn't right somewhere
[07:55] <brea> How can I delete all the 'apt-get update' caches and refresh everything?
[07:55] <Kilroo> [nrx] : did that yesterday.
[07:55] <dindoun> brea apt-get clean
[07:55] <shrimants> i installed ubuntu just fine, and after it was done updating (but before restarting) i compiled drivers from nvidia. now my grub lists both the .15 and .16 generic kernels, and as far as .16 is concerned, graphics wont boot and screen isnt recognized
[07:55] <[nrx] > k
[07:56] <brea> dindoun: Tried that... it didn't refresh on the next apt-get update
[07:56] <kev_b> Can anyone help me with this simple problem: I mount an SSH share using sshfs. When I open a file on the share and then try to save it I am prevented (some kind of read-only error depending on what is doing the saving). BUT, if I delete the file just before the save, the save works fine. ANY IDEAS? : )
[07:56] <Kilroo> I should never have tried out the new fglrx when my card wasn't supposed to be supported, and I should have restored one of my backed-up xorg.conf's instead of reinstalling everything when it didn't work...but I was trying to get back some stuff I'd lost and couldn't find anymore...
[07:57] <pandora--> killer_: ati/feisty?
[07:57] <[nrx] > Kilroo: always dodgy :\
[07:57] <pandora--> Kilroo: ati/feisty?
[07:57] <shrimants> im nvidia/feisty
[07:57] <pandora--> <- laptop. ati. unhappy. :(
[07:57] <pandora--> nvidia > ati
[07:57] <[nrx] > <--laptop. ati. happy :)
[07:58] <shrimants> <- laptop, nvidia, nothing works.
[07:58] <pandora--> [nrx] : feisty?
[07:58] <dindoun> Help : sometimes thz gdm allow me all the screen resolutions; not a pb of xorg.conf
[07:58] <[nrx] > pandora--: yes
[07:58] <pandora--> i have an acer ferrari, everything works great, until i upgraded to feisty.. than no opengl
[07:58] <gimpseeker> sup
[07:58] <pandora--> [nrx] : you have opengl working?
[07:58] <fav3> If I post the results of my /etc/init.d/networking restart in the pastebin, Can someone look at it for me?
[07:58] <[nrx] > yep
[07:59] <dindoun> pandora : have you reinstalled drivers? nvidiaglx for example
[07:59] <shrimants> im trying to switch to feisty from XP but my graphics wont work
[07:59] <pandora--> dindoun: its ati
[07:59] <Kilroo> pandora--: yes, ati/feisty. Before I had my ID10T failure and reinstalled everything, I had Mesa 7.0.1 and direct rendering working on my Radeon 9800 pro, and then subsequently had the new fglrx installed and mostly working, but it was a little dodgy, so I tried to switch back and loused it up.
[07:59] <pandora--> [nrx] : huh.
[07:59] <shrimants> i installed ubuntu just fine, and after it was done updating (but before restarting) i compiled drivers from nvidia. now my grub lists both the .15 and .16 generic kernels, and as far as .16 is concerned, graphics wont boot and screen isnt recognized
[07:59] <shrimants> so i have no idea how to fix that
[07:59] <dindoun> pandora yes but try your driver
[07:59] <[nrx] > pandora--: yes, i have opengl working on my laptop with ati gfx
[07:59] <pandora--> dindoun: ya I updated the driver
[07:59] <gimpseeker> I need some help with configuring  the display in ubuntu
[07:59] <darlok> I did something stupid.  I followed a short tutorial on how to make my screensaver my desktop background.  Problem is, it didn't work and now my desktop doesn't shw any icons at all.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:00] <pandora--> [nrx] : so you're running xorg 7.2 as well. i wonder why i can't get it to work
[08:00] <gimpseeker> which way is the best to do this in recovery mode
[08:00] <Kilroo> pandora--: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487735&highlight=mesa worked for me the first time around, although I'm having issues with it now.
[08:00] <pandora--> [nrx] : it worked before i upgraded to feisty
[08:00] <pandora--> Kilroo: *nods* thx
[08:00] <[nrx] > pandora--: i can't really help, i was lucky. It just worked
[08:00] <[nrx] > ;/
[08:00] <fav3> Be Right Back
[08:00] <pandora--> [nrx] : lol. crap. ok
[08:01] <genii> fav3: You may want to find what dns info the XP vm is using by: netsh diag show dns    there. Then you can put that into the resolv.conf or the /etc/network/interfaces entry for eth0
[08:01] <dtorres> exit
[08:01] <dindoun> gimpseeket you tries dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:01] <neosix> Hello people! Can somebody tell me good program for video captur with webcam
[08:02] <shrimants> ugh nvm. chatrooms are no help at all
[08:03] <dindoun> neosix : cmorama or easycam ; it works but is ti good one?
[08:03] <[nrx] > going out for a smoke.
[08:03] <Kilroo> [nrx] : I appear to be spamming the pastebin. I'm not sure why.
[08:03] <[nrx] > afk
[08:03] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:03] <lostallhope> anyone here got exp setting up an apache server ? because i got mine to work but i cant get access to my var/www folder
[08:03] <neosix> yes my webcam works!
[08:03] <lostallhope> says only my root got access to it but i am root :( so i'm kinda stuck
[08:04] <dindoun> llostaal... http://bruno.sanchiz.free.fr/spip/spip.php?article37
[08:04] <neosix> dindoun: Thanks man!!!
[08:04] <frostburn> lostallhope, use sudo, or sudo -i
[08:04] <weretac0> #ubuntuanyone up for answering a question I got?
[08:04] <pupi120290> hello^^ i have installed cvscedega succesfully but i cant start cvscedega properly i get the error ERROR: wineserver exiting unexpectantly!
[08:04] <lostallhope> but i wanan be able to drag and drop files into it
[08:04] <weretac0> got a dell d620 with the sigmatel audio.. I'm trying to use the digital audio from the docking station and haven't been able to get it to work
[08:04] <Kilroo> [nrx] : never mind, got it. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37718/
[08:04] <lymeca> OKay so I mount an HFS+ partition on Feisty live CD and try and copy data off it with sudo, but it says permission denied... with sudo!  I should be able to read this data, no??  I can copy off some data but not a lot of the stuff I need.  the HFS+ partition is mounted as read-only, but that's okay because I don't need to write to it.
[08:05] <lostallhope> or is that impossible
[08:05] <dindoun> lostall     *   chmod a+w /var/www/
[08:05] <dindoun> lostall before iunstaklling phpmyadmin
[08:06] <jamison> is there a package management way to install Crossover Office?
[08:06] <jlouis_> Anyone seen this on gutsy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37719/ ?
[08:06] <jlouis_> kswapd dies
[08:06] <jlouis_> which is bad ;)
[08:06] <fav3> Can someone look atthis? It doesn't look right to me? http://pastebin.ca/700934
[08:06] <lostallhope> i c ty :)
[08:06] <_SiLENT_> hello guys
[08:06] <pupi120290> hello! i cant start cvscedega properly here is what cvscedega puts into the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37720/
[08:06] <_SiLENT_> 'n'girls
[08:07] <DM|> I keep getting this window opening that says "HTTP cache cleaner" and i have no idea what it is, anyone help?
[08:07] <mattyboy> what would i use to do a screencast, like in a class setting?
[08:07] <Pici> !screencast | mihaX14
[08:07] <ubotu> mihaX14: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[08:08] <Pici> mattyboy: That was for you ^
[08:08] <mattyboy> kk
[08:08] <_SiLENT_> finally my ubuntu CD arrived. I booted it as a liveCD and it seemed to have a kinda slow display. after installing will it be the same?
[08:08] <mattyboy> nope
[08:08] <mihaX14> _silent_: no No, cd doesn't work so fast as HD
[08:09] <_SiLENT_> mihaX14, I mean the display!
[08:09] <pupi120290> anyone help me???
[08:09] <mattyboy> hrm
[08:09] <Wikzo> Will it be easy to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 when the new version launches? What about my programs (like Automatix and Compiz Fusion) - will they be touched in the upgrade?
[08:10] <fav3> also, how come when I restarted networking, I didn't get disconnected on my VM?
[08:10] <_SiLENT_> does Ubuntu have fast default video drivers?
[08:10] <jlouis_> Wikzo: Compiz F is the new default IIRC
[08:10] <Seveas> !automatix | Wikzo
[08:10] <ubotu> Wikzo: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[08:10] <Seveas> don't use that crap
[08:10] <Terrasque> Wikzo: compiz, no. Automatix, hell no. Thats my guess
[08:10] <mattyboy> i want to broadcast my screen to an entire class...hrm
[08:10] <jlouis_> To where should I report a kernel-image-2.6.22-11.33 problem?
[08:11] <Wikzo> Ok, forget Automatix. I got Compiz Fusion already, what will happen when I upgrade to 7.10?
[08:11] <PriceChild> !bugs | jlouis_
[08:11] <ubotu> jlouis_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:11] <_SiLENT_> does Ubuntu have fast default video drivers and also driver for mu other hardware (like Windows XP does)
[08:11] <nikolam> Hello. I wan to reinstall system and I want advice: Since i have of about 1Gig of .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives downloaded from internet, I wanted to reuse them in new installation. Should I just copy them to a new installation or should i make new file:// "repository" for them in /etc/apt/sources.list on new install?
[08:11] <weretac0> anyone here have ideas about dell docking stations?
[08:11] <Seveas> Wikzo, hopefully you'll get the correct version if automatix didn't mess your system up too badly
[08:11] <jlouis_> PriceChild: thankyou ;)
[08:11] <weretac0> it's all I need and I'm a happy linux user
[08:11] <weretac0> than and maybe lowering the sensitivity of the touchpad but I can find that somewhere I'm sure
[08:12] <Wikzo> Ok - if we say I uninstall Automaix ... what about Compiz Fusion?
[08:12] <frostburn> weretac0, the docking station is just a port replicator no?
[08:12] <weretac0> yeah
[08:12] <lostallhope> the chmodding doesnt work :(
[08:12] <Seveas> Wikzo, uninstalling autocraptix doesn't undo the damage it has done
[08:12] <deeon> #j /ubuntu-de
[08:12] <genii> back
[08:12] <weretac0> for some reason I can't figure out the digital audio output
[08:12] <deeon> ups
[08:12] <deeon> ;-)
[08:12] <pupi120290> hello... anyone who can help me install cvscedega?
[08:12] <weretac0> which has been some pain for me in the past with a creative card
[08:13] <Wikzo> The only thing Automaix has installed is Flash
[08:13] <weretac0> or for my onboard in my old desktop
[08:13] <fav3> Could a network guy possibly take a look at this? http://pastebin.ca/700934? I'm assuming the Failed to bring up Eth0 isn't good
[08:13] <_SiLENT_> does Ubuntu have fast default video drivers and also driver for mu other hardware (like Windows XP does)
[08:13] <frostburn> weretac0, you might want to check out alsa support
[08:13] <kiotn> does anybody know a irc channel where i can improve my english?
[08:13] <weretac0> i can see the digital card when i list the alsa devices
[08:13] <Seveas> Wikzo, you don't need crapomatix for that :)
[08:13] <abadtooth> lostallhope:  'chmod 777 file'
[08:13] <weretac0> it's intel HD I believe
[08:13] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: I'm not sure what you're asking exactly, but the first time I installed Xubuntu, after a little work the only things I was missing from Windows were support for my scanner and one game I liked that doesn't support Linux, and everything else seemed to work better with the exception of transparency on the desktop being sluggish, which is the fault of the ATI drivers, and those are getting major improvements this month and next 
[08:13] <abadtooth> lostallhope:  ore any other permission setting
[08:14] <Wikzo> Seveas: I know, I am going to delete it now. What is the best way to remove everthing from Automaix2 (7.04)?
[08:14] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, is there a way to choose "classic theme" in Ubuntu like in windows?
[08:14] <Seveas> Wikzo, the best way is to reinstall but if you only let it install flash, you're probably ok
[08:15] <Wikzo> Seveas: Just remove it via Synaptic?
[08:15] <genii> fav3: From what I can tell there, your nic are locked down. I would suspect because the vm has them occupied.
[08:15] <fav3> ahhh I see
[08:15] <Seveas> Wikzo, yeah
[08:15] <fav3> that kinda makes sense
[08:15] <gregor_> www.gmx.net
[08:15] <fav3> so I can't really troubleshoot on this computer since I won't have any internet
[08:15] <weretac0> according to the alsa page there is support
[08:15] <fav3> this is so frustrating
[08:15] <weretac0> and I already updated to the newest alsa drivers
[08:15] <cwgannon> does anybody in here have any experience with soundconverter?  i've a question about it
[08:16] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: There are different themes for Ubuntu, although I use XFCE rather than Gnome so I don't know as much about the choices as I might. It would not surprise me if there is a theme out there that looks a lot like Windows Classic. It wouldn't surprise me if there's one that looks like the default XP theme either, although that would obviously be in bad taste.
[08:16] <vsayikiran> i want to know how secure is ubuntu from virus and other security threats
[08:16] <frostburn> weretac0, try #alsa
[08:16] <vsayikiran> is there any virus infecting ubuntu system
[08:16] <darlok> I did something stupid.  I followed a short tutorial on how to make my screensaver my desktop background.  Problem is, it didn't work and now my desktop doesn't shw any icons at all.  Anyone know how I can fix this??  The tutorial's "revert" command didn't work.  Now, of course, I don't remember where this tutorial was...
[08:16] <Pici> !virus | vsayikiran
[08:16] <genii> fav3: You could put the dns info that the XP vm is suing into the resolv.conf file, as I suggested earlier
[08:16] <fav3> _SiLENT_, You sound like you want a windows version of Linux heh
[08:16] <ubotu> vsayikiran: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:17] <AskHL> !virus | AskHL
[08:17] <fav3> that command you gave didn't work. I'm using win2K if it matters
[08:17] <genii> *suing=using
[08:17] <vsayikiran> is there any security loophole in ubuntu
[08:17] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:17] <Broc223> does anyone know where to look up which binary nvidia driver supports which cards? thers the legacy, the new driver...
[08:17] <Wikzo> Seveas: And I just remove the third party deb link to Automatix by myself?
[08:18] <genii> fav3: You tried the command from the 2K  run...cmd.exe screen?
[08:18] <_SiLENT_> hey!  what I meant is that the default theme of Ubuntu is "too fancy" like the default theme in Windows XP is, and I want to make it less fancy but faster in Ubuntu.---I don't want it the same as in windows visually!
[08:18] <Inxs> how to unlock NTFS partitions? i can't copy paste
[08:18] <Seveas> Wikzo, yup
[08:18] <stdin> Broc223: there's a link to that on the nvidia help page
[08:18] <fav3> yep but after netsh there is no admin command
[08:18] <Inxs> how to unlock NTFS partitions? i can't copy paste
[08:18] <stdin> !ntfs
[08:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:18] <Broc223> stdin: on nvidias site?
[08:18] <fav3> err diag rather
[08:18] <MrKimm> hello!
[08:18] <fav3> sorry
[08:19] <stdin> !nvidia | Broc223, no here
[08:19] <ubotu> Broc223, no here: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:19] <vsayikiran> is there any virus for ubunut
[08:19] <genii> fav3: Perhaps try instead netsh all show ip
[08:19] <stdin> vsayikiran: no
[08:19] <Wikzo> Ok, now it's gone ... didn't got an answer to my question: Will an upgrade mss up my Compiz Fusion from 7.04?
[08:19] <MrKimm> I have installed a new (old) harddrive and want to move my swap-space to it, I have tried googling for it, but I cant find any good answers
[08:19] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: I recommend trying XFCE, but you should be able to change the Ubuntu theme pretty easily as well. Look in your menu under Settings for something about Window Manager Settings, it's probably in there.
[08:19] <fav3> genii, nope
[08:20] <willdev> hey guys when ever  i try to apt-get i get loads of "failed to write cache errors"
[08:20] <stdin> MrKimm: just make a swap partition and move the fstab line to it
[08:20] <willdev> its a brand new installation
[08:20] <gregor_> www.gmx.net
[08:20] <willdev> i just updated
[08:20] <fav3> genii, the only show is alias, helper or mode
[08:20] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, is XFCE a desktop like KDE/Gnome
[08:20] <_SiLENT_> ?
[08:20] <MrKimm> stdin, I tried looking at fstab, but I cant understand the swapline, should i paste it?
[08:20] <genii> fav3: Bah. I have forgot the syntax for it. you may find it by netsh /? there to see what is correct. At any rate, there is some syntax which displays dns info
[08:20] <cwgannon> i need to convert 5000+ m4a's to ogg vorbis files -- i have sound converter, but it's replacing my spaces with %20% -- can anybody tell me why?
[08:20] <stdin> !spam | gregor_
[08:20] <ubotu> gregor_: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:20] <vsayikiran> i read in one website that there are few viruses for linux
[08:21] <Broc223> stdin: looks like it is legacy, wonder if beryl works with it
[08:21] <vsayikiran> so i want ot know whether it is virus free
[08:21] <Wikzo> Seveas: Ok, now it's gone ... didn't got an answer to my question: Will an upgrade mss up my Compiz Fusion from 7.04?
[08:21] <Seveas> Wikzo, there is no compiz fusion in 7.04
[08:21] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_, yes. It's supposed to be a little faster, and it's definitely a little simpler. It suits me pretty well, but it's not for everyone. I'd go look at your window manager settings before trying a different desktop environment. That's where you change the borders and buttons and such.
[08:21] <frostburn> vsayikiran, yes it is mostly virus free, but security holes to pop up from time to time
[08:21] <Seveas> only old compiz
[08:21] <MrKimm> never mind! I think I figured it out
[08:22] <stdin> MrKimm: it should be something like "<device> none swap sw 0 0"           "<device>" can be a UUID too
[08:22] <Wikzo> Seveas: I know. I have installed it by myself
[08:22] <Seveas> when you upgrade to gutsy, it will install compiz-fusion from gutsy
[08:22] <swiftnomad> Hey. Does anyone know how to get digitally signed msg's and send them with linux.
[08:22] <MrKimm> stdin, yes, I found it! :
[08:22] <mihaX14>  !bluetooth
[08:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[08:22] <Seveas> depending on the quality of the packages you installed, that'll go ok or break
[08:22] <Wikzo> Seveas: But what about the inbuild CF in 7.10, will it mess it up?
[08:22] <genii> fav3: windows ipconfig command may also have something like showdns   or /showdns as a switch
[08:22] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, do u mean the window manager settings that I currently use in ma Windos?
[08:22] <Seveas> Wikzo, depends on the quality of the packages you already installed
[08:22] <Seveas> I can't say anything about it
[08:23] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: I mean the window manager settings in Gnome or KDE.
[08:23] <fav3> statically configured DNS servers 192.168.1.1 which is What?? is in my /etc/resolv.conf file
[08:23] <fav3> genii, statically configured DNS servers 192.168.1.1 which is What?? is in my /etc/resolv.conf file
[08:23] <vsayikiran> so how shoulsd i know whther my ubuntu is infected with some virus?
[08:23] <MrKimm> stdin, or wait... does a line with a "#" at the beginning mean its a comment in fstab? In that case... I dont understand :/
[08:23] <genii> fav3: Yes, not much help at all there.
[08:23] <willdev> when apt-get trys to update the fontconfig cache it gives loads of errors :(
[08:23] <fav3> heheh give ya an E for effort
[08:24] <Kilroo> vsayikiran: Generally you will know you have a virus because you had to go to a lot of trouble to let it infect you.
[08:24] <mihaX14> willdev: what errors?
[08:24] <willdev> loads of failed to write cache errors
[08:24] <Wikzo> Seveas: I used this guide. http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[08:24] <etale> I'm using beryl, but what's managing my filesystem?  I want to change the appearance of the folders, I mean...
[08:24] <stdin> MrKimm: yeah "#" means comment, it's normally there by default when changing /dev/???? lines to UUID=xxxxxxx lines
[08:25] <Cin> hm, good image organiser for ubuntu?
[08:25] <Pici> Cin: F-Spot is good.
[08:25] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, look. In windows XP - after installation I turn the fancy theme off by choosing "classic" and it becomes nice and smooth for me. Which mode and in which desktop offers the same level of smoothness in Ubuntu?
[08:25] <Seveas> Wikzo, ugh, you used 3vino debs
[08:25] <Seveas> those suck
[08:25] <stdin> MrKimm: you can use "vol_id /dev/DEVICE" to get it's UUID or just use it's /dev/DEVICE address as normal
[08:25] <Cin> Pici, can it maintain an image library? i'd like something like that. like how your media player keeps a library of your mp3 files
[08:25] <mihaX14> willdev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400473  (use google to search)
[08:26] <fav3> genii, The only reason I'm not leaning so much towards DNS is that even though I can ping my router, I should still be able to login to it and I can't
[08:26] <Seveas> Wikzo, best thing to do is first uninstall compiz-fusion, then upgrade and let it install the proper compiz-fusion
[08:26] <MrKimm> stdin, so I can just replace UUID=XXXX with /dev/disk ?
[08:26] <fav3> that's just straight IP
[08:26] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, the Glider theme maybe?
[08:26] <Pici> Cin: You can tag photos with keywords and then use them to bring up those photos in the future.  It probably has a lot more features, but thats what I use it for.
[08:26] <_SiLENT_> in KDE? Gnome? XCFE?
[08:27] <shrimants> i installed ubuntu just fine, then waited for it to update, and then downloaded nvidia drivers and compiled them and all that. but now, when i reboot, it lists both a .15 and a .16 kernel in GRUB and the drivers dont work in the .16 kernel. i havent tried the .15 kernel yet
[08:27] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, gnome.. what are you using?
[08:27] <Cin> Pici, oooo. i'll try it
[08:27] <fav3> genii, On my VM, I log right in so I'm not 100% is a TCP level problem
[08:27] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, xfce themes are usually pretty lightweight..
[08:27] <shrimants> how do i get my nvidia drivers to work
[08:27] <fav3> genii: or does that make no sense whatsoever
[08:27] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, that is xfce themes in xfce
[08:27] <AndresB> hi guys...how do i remove the proxy settings in apt-get? i dont seem to have apt.conf
[08:27] <Wikzo> Seveas: Are you sure? Mine works fine now ... if you are sure, I got a new question: How do I switch between CF and just Metacity? Right now I got a little icon with the commando 'compiz --replace' to start CF
[08:27] <_SiLENT_> DShepherd, what do u mean "lighweight"?
[08:27] <shrimants> can someone help me?
[08:28] <Cin> pici, oh, i've got it
[08:28] <Seveas> Wikzo, that's the way to switch :)
[08:28] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: I use the Katiola style in XFCE, personally. For gnome, you might like something like http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1342 or something. KDE I'd have to do another search on.
[08:28] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, lightweight = doesnt require lots of computer resources (memory, cpu, etc)
[08:28] <shrimants> i need some help with nvidia drivers
[08:28] <Seveas> Wikzo, and 'works fine' doesn't imply 'package is sane'
[08:28] <Wikzo> Seveas: In 7.10 too?
[08:28] <Seveas> Wikzo, yes
[08:28] <stdin> MrKimm: you can do that, yeah
[08:28] <darlok> hmm... for some reason kdenlive isn't in the repositories even though the Ubuntu forums claims it is... am I missing something?
[08:28] <AndresB> hi guys...how do i remove the proxy settings in apt-get and wget? i dont seem to have apt.conf
[08:28] <Seveas> Wikzo, or you can use the little button in the display preferences that says 'enable desktop effects'
[08:28] <MrKimm> stdin, thanks, I try it!
[08:29] <_SiLENT_> DShepherd, but does it also mean that it lacks something?
[08:29] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, yeah.. bling
[08:29] <_SiLENT_> DShepherd, but how to change the desktop?
[08:29] <Wikzo> Seveas: Sounds good. Right now my system works great, but I think I'll be upgrading it when the new version launches
[08:29] <_SiLENT_> DShepherd, bling?
[08:29] <AndresB> hi guys...how do i remove the proxy settings in apt-get and wget? i dont seem to have apt.conf
[08:29] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, I have Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[08:29] <shrimants> i need help with nvidia
[08:30] <_SiLENT_> none of them have XCFE
[08:30] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_, I run Xubuntu, so I'm not going to be as able to help you as some people might.
[08:30] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, just like classic is not as pretty (blingy) as the default theme in windows xp.. that's all you lose when you use a simple theme..
[08:30] <_SiLENT_> DShepherd, that will be my choice then
[08:30] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, what is Xubuntu?
[08:31] <jlouis_> a ubuntu variant
[08:31] <shrimants> i need help with NVIDIA
[08:31] <DShepherd> _SiLENT_, you know how to change your themes right?
[08:31] <jlouis_> provides XFCE
[08:31] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_, Xubuntu is to XFCE as Kubuntu is to KDE as Ubuntu is to Gnome
[08:31] <GIn> any player for gnome that support unicode?
[08:31] <mpoufos_sketo> how to install apache?
[08:31] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, oh I would order it if I knew
[08:31] <jlouis_> shrimants: you probably have to be more specific
[08:31] <fav3> Is there a way to ( I'm only using as a windows comparison ) uninstall and reinstall a NIC card and drivers?
[08:32] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: you could always install xubuntu-desktop, although I've forgotten exactly how that works.
[08:32] <shrimants> jlouis_ every time i type the paragraph in, no one responds, and i hate typing that much in for nothing
[08:32] <fav3> I just hate like heck to reformat after 2 days of installing all my programs
[08:32] <lesshaste> is there anything like Keynote for linux?
[08:32] <Centaur5> I have eth0 (internal) and eth1 (internet) and used pppoeconf to create ppp0. What do I need to do with eth1 so it doesn't time out anymore on getting an address via dhcp?
[08:32] <frostburn> fav3, there's nothing to reinstall, you mean because of the vm?
[08:33] <jlouis_> lesshaste: what does keynote do?
[08:33] <_SiLENT_> Kilroo, but I don't think there's Xubuntu CD for request, is there?
[08:33] <willdev> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400473  < doesnt work for me but having the same error
[08:33] <lesshaste> jlouis_, presentations really beautifully
[08:33] <fav3> no because my nic is hosed. No internet access thru Ubuntu.
[08:33] <shrimants> i installed ubuntu just fine, then waited for it to update, and then downloaded nvidia drivers and compiled them and all that. but now, when i reboot, it lists both a .15 and a .16 kernel in GRUB and the drivers dont work in the .16 kernel. i havent tried the .15 kernel yet
[08:33] <fav3> well not really my NIC since my VM is working my NIC must be OK but useless if I have to VM running all the time
[08:33] <frostburn> change your vm settings
[08:34] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Anyone know how to refresh the GNOME 2.18 desktop from the command line without getting a new browser window?
[08:34] <jlouis_> lesshaste: I use LaTeX for that via the latex-beamer package. But it may not be your cup of tea
[08:34] <shrimants> how do i uninstall the drivers that i downloaded from nvidia's site in form of a .run file
[08:34] <jlouis_> lesshaste: it is not WYSIWYG
[08:34] <lesshaste> jlouis_, I use that too .. I am trying to find something less painful :)
[08:34] <Kilroo> _SiLENT_: No, Xubuntu does not have fee CD's to ship due to lack of funding. However, you can install the xubuntu-desktop package from the repositories.
[08:34] <Kilroo> Er, free CD's.
[08:34] <Wikzo> Seveas: Sorry for keeping asking, but can you help me about Gaim/Pidgin too? Yesterday I added this link to my third party software: http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn . It allows me to install Pidgin over Gaim, but will the default Ubuntu repositories take over when upgrading to 7.10?
[08:34] <fav3> frostburn: The VM works fine but when the VM is not running...even if it is... I have no internet access at all on ubuntu
[08:35] <nooga> werid thing
[08:35] <fav3> even if it isn't*
[08:35] <nooga> i just updated from egdy to feisty
[08:35] <Seveas> Wikzo, they will
[08:35] <jlouis_> lesshaste: magicpoint is popular among the BSD-guys, but it is definitely a thing which is much like latex-beamer
[08:35] <nooga> and after reboot the disk is intensively working for 20 minutes
[08:35] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[08:35] <Seveas> Wikzo, and you should disable that repo before upgrading :)
[08:35] <fav3> The only reason for VM is to access a few remote systems with a windows only remote access program I use
[08:35] <willdev> uh
[08:35] <Wikzo> Seveas: Ok :)
[08:35] <jlouis_> nooga: trackd probably
[08:35] <willdev> ubuntu has soo many errors :(
[08:35] <_SiLENT_> so how do applications work in ubuntu? not like exe files in windows?
[08:36] <nooga> jlouis_: how to solve it?
[08:36] <pupi120290> anyone who can help me with cvscedega
[08:36] <lesshaste> jlouis_, ok.. keynote is pdf based and wysiwyg so you can make latex pdfs of formulae, drag/drop/resize etc
[08:36] <lesshaste> jlouis_, its for OS X
[08:36] <jlouis_> nooga: solve? the purpose of trackd is to create a full-text index
[08:36] <jlouis_> of your data
[08:36] <nooga> jlouis_: so i just have to wait till it's done
[08:36] <jlouis_> it can be disabled in System->Preferences->Indexing Preferences
[08:37] <nooga> ?:)
[08:37] <Catoptromancy> any estimated time frame for Gutsy?
[08:37] <frostburn> fav3, reinstalling the kernel won't do much, it sounds like some configuration error, but i know not what it is
[08:37] <DShepherd> !gutsy
[08:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <willdev> hey, x server has failed to start help?
[08:37] <jlouis_> nooga: you could verify via top(1) that it is trackd that takes the disk I/O
[08:37] <Lovecraft> _SiLENT_: Linus uses a file attribut to know wether or not it is an executable.
[08:37] <Lovecraft> Linux, that is.
[08:37] <fav3> well reinstalling the kernel will make things work again, I guess I'll just have to install things 1 at a time and see What?? kills my internet
[08:37] <Qodosh> ello
[08:38] <Qodosh> Anyone know why I cant connect to a wpa2 network under ubuntu
[08:38] <_SiLENT_> Lovecraft, can a program be in a single file?
[08:38] <Lovecraft> _SiLENT_: certainly
[08:38] <scratchy> Windows during the daytime...linux in the evening :-)
[08:38] <jlouis_> support?
[08:38] <jlouis_> fanatical?
[08:38] <Lovecraft> _SiLENT_: But most times them progarm depends on libraries.
[08:38] <scratchy> Well yeah
[08:38] <jlouis_> MEOW! ;)
[08:39] <scratchy> Im tech support !
[08:39] <nooga> jlouis_: beagled is quite higgh
[08:39] <ShackJack> Hi all - my GNOME session freezes when I try to use the quit button from the menu... Does anyone know what program actually runs so that I might call it from a command line to see what it's getting hung up on....
[08:39] <_SiLENT_> Lovecraft, and "packages" in Ubuntu stand for "Installers" in windos?
[08:39] <Lovecraft> _SiLENT_: I reallyt can type.
[08:39] <vsayikiran> is there any possibility that windows virus will spread in my ubuntu
[08:39] <scratchy> I managed to explain an 90 year old today how to reinstall his NIC drivers
[08:39] <jlouis_> nooga: then its probably that one indexing
[08:39] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: Almost none...
[08:39] <willdev> !askbot
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about askbot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <scratchy> now THAT is what I call an ART
[08:39] <willdev> pfft
[08:39] <Lovecraft> _SiLENT_: the .debs are unpacked and install by dpkg.
[08:39] <willdev> xserver fails to start
[08:39] <DShepherd> vsayikiran, very very very unlikely
[08:40] <willdev> someone help :(
[08:40] <_SiLENT_> what are debs?
[08:40] <_SiLENT_> file format?
[08:40] <ompaul> vsayikiran, it will not - they tried and tried and could not make it happen
[08:40] <scratchy> it took me 90 minutes he was kinda deaf ...hehehe
[08:40] <scratchy> With wha t ?
[08:40] <Lovecraft> The files containing data and info where to put it and any installation info.
[08:40] <nooga> jlouis_: when updating i was asked if i'd like to create some 'arrays' for mdadm, i selected not to create them
[08:40] <nooga> maybe that is the problem
[08:41] <_SiLENT_> so, can I for example, download a package and keep it for later reinstallations
[08:41] <frostburn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.deb
[08:41] <_SiLENT_> ?
[08:41] <Lovecraft> yes
[08:41] <scratchy> yeaH
[08:41] <scratchy> your portage
[08:41] <jlouis_> willdev: you could start by perusing a bit around in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for hints
[08:41] <scratchy> :-)
[08:41] <scratchy> thinks of E
[08:41] <sgronblo> Can anyone recommend any packages with some good terminal fonts? Not truetype.
[08:41] <lesshaste> how do you install kqemu in ubuntu?
[08:41] <scratchy> tar ballz right ? packed packages for later use
[08:41] <etale> so if I want new icon themse, I install new metacity themes?
[08:42] <lesshaste> there is something called  kqemu-common
[08:42] <lesshaste> is that it?
[08:42] <jlouis_> nooga: probably not
[08:42] <vsayikiran> can any tell me can a virus written for windows spread in my ubuntu
[08:42] <scratchy> normally those are stored on the servers of one of your repositories
[08:42] <nooga> jlouis_: what are theese arrays?
[08:42] <ShackJack> etale: No, you can install just icons themes - check out gnome-look.org
[08:42] <willdev> how do i reconfigure xorg?
[08:42] <jlouis_> nooga: md is multiple disk IIRC
[08:42] <scratchy> install gnome-art
[08:43] <scratchy> its COOL
[08:43] <nooga> jlouis_: do i need that?
[08:43] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: No...
[08:43] <nooga> :D
[08:43] <Pici> willdev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <nooga> i've got normal desktop pc
[08:43] <scratchy> all themes in one little app
[08:43] <Pici> willdev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh for just resolution/driver changes
[08:43] <jlouis_> nooga: you don't need it unless you know what it is I think
[08:43] <jlouis_> ;)
[08:43] <nooga> hehe
[08:43] <nooga> :)
[08:43] <dgjones> !virus | vsayikiran
[08:43] <ubotu> vsayikiran: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:43] <Kilroo> vsayikiran: A virus written for Windows is less likely to spread on a Linux machine with no antivirus or firewall programs than it is to spread on a Windows machine with the best firewall and antivirus you can find.
[08:44] <_SiLENT_> I don't want any extra applications installed - just the desktop. Is ubuntu for me?
[08:44] <_SiLENT_> *pre-installed
[08:44] <_SiLENT_> I meant :)
[08:44] <pupi120290> who knows somewthing about cedega
[08:44] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: you *can* under certain special circumstances get a Windows virus to run under Linux
[08:44] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: it's very very difficult to do
[08:45] <_SiLENT_> or should I go for Debian?
[08:45] <etale> _SiLEnT_ gentoo is for you then
[08:45] <willdev> ty Pici
[08:45] <gordonjcp> does anyone know how to set the font sizes in Wine?
[08:45] <vsayikiran> how gordonjcp?
[08:45] <vsayikiran> please tell me
[08:45] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: how what?
[08:45] <ompaul> gordonjcp, I thought they tried for a month and gave up
[08:45] <CarlF1> anyone have the url of gutsy torrent?
[08:45] <vsayikiran> will it severely affect my linux
[08:46] <gordonjcp> ompaul: to change the font sizes in wine, or run a Windows virus in Linux?
[08:46] <CarlF1> er, forget torrent - gutsy .iso
[08:46] <Lovecraft> gordonjcp: I go the mscorefonts and put then where wine could find them.
[08:46] <ompaul> gordonjcp, they used wine to try and run viruss
[08:46] <preaction_> CarlF1, gutsy isn't released yet. #ubuntu+1 will help you
[08:46] <gordonjcp> Lovecraft: how do you set the font size though?
[08:46] <gordonjcp> ompaul: yeah, I tried it, and got it to work *once*
[08:46] <tvrg> vsayikiran: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[08:46] <censured> 
[08:47] <_SiLENT_> etale, but will it be hard to learn linux stuff and get the apps I need, if I start directly with Gentoo? or should I use Ubuntu first?
[08:47] <dgjones> anybody know of a piano/keyboard teaching package for ubuntu/linux? any suggestions appreciated
[08:47] <darius_> Anyone know if it's possible to play mpeg2-ts HD content in current release of Ubuntu?  I've tried Movie Player, vlc, mplayer, xine - nothing seems to care for the 3rd stream (TS) and even when I collapse/strip TS, nothing likes to play back 720/1080 content (but 480i works)
[08:47] <vsayikiran> what are those special circumstances that a windows virus will run under linux
[08:47] <Kworth> I want to configure a programm but I get following error on ./configure : configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables.
[08:47] <Lovecraft> gordonjcp: I don't remember, but what I did improved things .. maybe the dpi setting in the config tools.
[08:47] <gordonjcp> Lovecraft: tried that, didn't help
[08:47] <Morrissey> hi! how do I change the permission of a folder an ALL of its files and recursive folders to my current user to read, write and execute?
[08:47] <willdev> ok guys, ive got a backup for xorg how do i use it?
[08:47] <tvrg> CarlF1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[08:47] <etale> I dunno, it might be hard to get gentoo working, it took my a few days to triple boot with it, but I learned a lot, and you can get rid of whatever you want later, learn to muck around in the kernel, etc
[08:48] <vsayikiran> ok plz
[08:48] <etale> you'll learn a lot
[08:48] <GenghisKhan> Morrissey: chmod -R u+rwx dirname
[08:48] <dirtyhand> wats the command to see all processes running with the name 'mongrel'?
[08:48] <Kworth> I want to configure a programm but I get following error on ./configure : configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. -  how can I fix this problem gcc is installed
[08:48] <pupi120290> hello! can anyone help me? cedega does not function on my computer. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37720/
[08:48] <DM|> ok... I have an ejectable CD rom drive, how do i tell where the compy has it listed so i can mount it via terminal
[08:48] <vsayikiran> tell may be difficult but bot impossible
[08:48] <pupi120290> Kwierg; sudo apt-get install g++
[08:48] <_SiLENT_> i don't need triple boot, nor dual-boot
[08:48] <Morrissey> thanks GenghisKhan
[08:48] <vsayikiran> let me know how can be done
[08:48] <pupi120290> Kworth: sudo apt-get install g++
[08:48] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: for all practical purposes, it's impossible
[08:49] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: you basically cannot write a viable virus for Linux
[08:49] <scratchy> me neighter
[08:49] <DM|> pupi120290: are u trying to install it?
[08:49] <scratchy> just linux is enough
[08:49] <dgjones> vsayikiran, your chance of a windows virus affecting a linux installation is minimal
[08:49] <Kworth> pupi120290, Okay I will try it , thanks :)
[08:49] <_SiLENT_> thanx everybody. places like this are gonna save the World! :)
[08:49] <pupi120290> DM| i already installed cvscedega using the instructions on http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[08:49] <DM|> _SiLenT_ or end it, whichever
[08:49] <Pici> dirtyhand: ps -u mongrel
[08:49] <_SiLENT_> lol
[08:50] <pupi120290> DM| but i get the error from cedega: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37720/
[08:50] <DM|> pupi120290: Dumb question, are you running the installer via sudo?
[08:50] <pupi120290> DM| : yes
[08:51] <DM|> pupi120290:  and.. why are you wanting to run the CVS? it can be unstable and buggy
[08:51] <bapuni> had anyone gone through the distrowatch? """""""Ubuntu slips to second place"""""""
[08:51] <pupi120290> DM|: cvscedega is free cedega not
[08:51] <Inxs> how to make ntfs writable partition?
[08:51] <Pici> !ntfs-3g | Inxs
[08:51] <ubotu> Inxs: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:51] <tvrg> Inxs: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[08:52] <Kworth> On configuring thunderbird with ./configure I get the error: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
[08:52] <Kworth>  --- I already tried to add it to the configure command but I still get the error - what to do?
[08:52] <DM|> pupi120290: what version of wine are u running?
[08:52] <z0rz> I'm trying to boot my windows partition in VirtualBox (it's a raw hard disk file) and I get Grub Error 17 ... how could I get around this?
[08:53] <pupi120290> DM| : 0.9.44
[08:53] <tvrg> z0rz: didn't know you can boot raw partitions in virtualbox?
[08:53] <pupi120290> the newest version in the repos
[08:53] <DM|> newest version is 0.9.45
[08:54] <pupi120290> of wine? but 0.9.45 is not available to me... somehow...
[08:54] <z0rz> tvrg: Yup
[08:54] <pupi120290> DM| : why are you asking about wine?
[08:54] <DM|> pupi120290 i use the wine respos i think but still
[08:54] <tvrg> z0rz: sweetness, got a link?
[08:54] <z0rz> tvrg: Yeah... look in the Help file... under Advanced topics
[08:54] <pupi120290> DM| : does cedega use wine?
[08:54] <vsayikiran> gordonjcp why is it not possible to write virus for linux
[08:55] <DM|> pupi120290 what app are you trying to use. Yes cedega does, in a way :)
[08:55] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: because it's inherently more secure
[08:55] <vsayikiran> if linux is open ssource software
[08:55] <DM|> vsayikiran all about permissions bro
[08:55] <vsayikiran> any one can modify source code and do any harm
[08:55] <tvrg> z0rz: cool
[08:55] <ompaul> vsayikiran, you can modify your own computer how are you going to modify mine?
[08:55] <GenghisKhan> vsayikirian: but there are lots of eyes looking at it
[08:55] <DM|> vsayikiran its possible, but it would take a VERY clever man, and a poor dev team .
[08:55] <genii> back
[08:56] <z0rz> How can I make my hard disk readable by all?
[08:56] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: Has to do with underlying structure of the linux system.... permissions, owneership, etc...
[08:56] <pupi120290> DM|: i tryed to install it; it says i have to run cvscedega firt but i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37720/
[08:56] <lesshaste> how is aptitude different from apt-get?
[08:56] <ompaul> vsayikiran, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic that is more of a conversational issue not #ubuntu which is support
[08:56] <Kworth>  --- I already tried to add it to the configure command but I still get the error - what to do?.
[08:56] <genii> Bah looks like fav3 left now
[08:56] <Kworth> On configuring thunderbird with ./configure I get the error: configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
[08:56] <DM|> pup120290 Yes, but im asking what program are you wanting to run with Cedega? because wine might be better since its free of $$,
[08:57] <ShackJack> Kworth: Is that Tbird 2.0 ?
[08:57] <Kworth> ShackJack, Yes
[08:57] <frostburn> vsayikiran, yes, anyone can modify sourcecode, which is why you trust peer review from trusted sources, like the ubuntu community
[08:57] <pupi120290> DM| no program just finisch to install it; it says in http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS i have to run cvscedega to finisch my installation
[08:57] <ShackJack> Kworth: I beleive there is a repo for it (google) and/or package @ getdeb.net for Feisty
[08:58] <pupi120290> thats step 4. Configuration
[08:58] <DM|> pupi120290: Im looking up the info trying to find an answer
[08:58] <genii> lesshaste: aptitude is the default package manager which comes for Gnome. As the default one for KDE is Adept. These are graphical package managers which use the dpkg system as backend.  apt-get also uses dpkg as backend, but has no gui. also is not specific to any one flavour of *buntu
[08:58] <DM|> pupi120290: i dont think you understand my question
[08:58] <Wikzo> Anyone here good at Compiz Fusion? I got a cool effect; when I move my mouse to right upper corner, the program views me all my windows like this. http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/ker55489.jpg  Now I can't remember what the effect is called :(
[08:58] <Kworth> ShackJack, I have an 64bit amd system, I didn't find one for that architecture
[08:58] <lesshaste> genii, ok.. confusingly you can use aptitude from the command line without ever seeing a gui
[08:59] <ShackJack> Kworth: 32 bit version won't make too much difference performance wise :)
[08:59] <GenghisKhan> genii, I tought gnome package manager was synaptic, not aptitude
[08:59] <Kworth> ShackJack, I cant install a 32bit software thats the problem
[08:59] <Esteth> When i try to fix broken packages in synaptic, i get an error: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a"
[08:59] <DM|> pupi120290: looks like one other person asked about this but never was answered http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php%3Ft%3D32904&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DCedega%2B%252B%2Bdisabled%2Bcould%2Bnot%2Bretrieve%2Bthe%2Bmodule%2Bfile%2Bname%2B(reason:%2B%2527bad%2Bmodule%2527)%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3DSwiftfox:en-US:unofficial%26hs%3DufL%26sa%3DG
[08:59] <DM|> whoa
[08:59] <DM|> sorry
[08:59] <genii> whoa
[09:00] <genii> GenghisKhan: ARGH yes. I need more coffee
[09:00] <DM|> pupi120290: http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=32904
[09:00] <b33r> Hello, why I can't format my partition to NTFS with gparted?
[09:00] <Kworth> ShackJack, Do you know how I can get rid of the error?
[09:00] <ShackJack> Kworth: Did you see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion  ? They say 64 bit is in those repos...
[09:00] <JuJuBee> I just finished setting up my computer lab.  I have nis running.  I created accounts and students can log in.  I know they are supposed to use yppasswd to change passwords.  When they try to, they get an error "yppasswd not running on master host".  when I do rcpinfo -p (on the server) it looks like yppasswd is running.
[09:00] <frostburn> b33r, ntfs is a proprietary windows format
[09:00] <DM|> b33r NTFS is a windows thing, you wont want to format it to that if you want linux to read/write properly
[09:00] <tvrg> !ntfs3g | b33r
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <tvrg> !ntfs-3g | b33r
[09:00] <ubotu> b33r: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:00] <genii> GenghisKhan: I hope i didn't mess him up too bad
[09:00] <pupi120290> DM|: yes exactly that person has the same prob as me
[09:01] <pupi120290> like me
[09:01] <vsayikiran> gordonjcp , i mean that since source code is freely available any one can modify it
[09:01] <_SiLENT_> is there hibernation in Ubuntu or other linuxes?
[09:01] <ShackJack> Kworth: no 64b not my speciality ... this is all I can offer :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion#head-90451bfe63ac6b6e70fd0d996e4809b583f49788
[09:01] <b33r> I know it's a windows format
[09:01] <tvrg> _SiLENT_: yep
[09:01] <DM|> pupi120290: Gonna ask this one more time reworded, What game are you trying to play in linux ?
[09:01] <b33r> but can't I format a partition to NTFS with gparted?
[09:01] <GenghisKhan> genii, well, aptitude has some kind of gui (if started with no params) :-)
[09:01] <DM|> b33r nope
[09:01] <gordonjcp> vsayikiran: you should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:01] <Kworth> ShackJack, Okay I will take a look
[09:01] <ShackJack> b33r: You can...
[09:01] <Tomcat_> b33r: You can afaik.
[09:01] <b33r> ....
[09:01] <scratchy> Nope no compiz for 580 cards, oh well ... I;'ll just sit here and cry
[09:01] <b33r> yes or no?
[09:01] <ShackJack> scratchy: 580 cards?
[09:01] <DM|> scratchy lol
[09:01] <Wikzo> Anyone here good at Compiz Fusion? I got a cool effect; when I move my mouse to right upper corner, the program shows me all my windows like this. http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/ker55489.jpg  Now I can't remember what the effect is called :(
[09:01] <_SiLENT_> and what about rollback software? available?
[09:02] <scratchy> ATI XT1900
[09:02] <DM|> b33r Why are you trying to is the better question?
[09:02] <pupi120290> DM|: forgot where it is... have to ask a freind of mine later... i told her tthat ill install cvscedega
[09:02] <ShackJack> Wikzo: It's called "scale"
[09:02] <Tomcat_> b33r: Let me check, second.
[09:02] <scratchy> its possible
[09:02] <b33r> DM|, because I want to
[09:02] <pupi120290> but it does not function....
[09:02] <scratchy> but its very instabile and crashes alot
[09:02] <DM|> pupi120290: id try wine to install the game, works better imo
[09:02] <lymeca> OKay so I mount an HFS+ partition on Feisty live CD and try and copy data off it with sudo, but it says permission denied... with sudo!  I should be able to read this data, no??  I can copy off some data but not a lot of the stuff I need.  the HFS+ partition is mounted as read-only, but that's okay because I don't need to write to it.
[09:02] <Tomcat_> b33r: If you have ntfsprogs installed it should work quite well.
[09:02] <Kitsu1> Can I use my wi-fi card to act as an access point?
[09:02] <frostburn> wine is also opensource, where cedega is not
[09:02] <vsayikiran> is ubuntu or any linux version secure?
[09:02] <ShackJack> scratchy: Using fglrx driver or ati dirver?
[09:02] <DM|> b33r well i want a million dollars, but it aint happenin, listen to tomcat_ he knows what he is talkin bout
[09:02] <scratchy> not worthed yet, Im already satisfied with my extended desktop through envy though
[09:02] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: Yes...
[09:03] <tvrg> vsayikiran: nothing is really secure
[09:03] <Wikzo> ShackJack: Thank you very much!
[09:03] <genii> GenghisKhan: Now i found a nice explanatory site LOL http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[09:03] <scratchy> tried both
[09:03] <GenghisKhan> Kitsu1: depends on the driver
[09:03] <b33r> DM|, don't waste my time if you can't help me
[09:03] <tvrg> vsayikiran: but it's more so than some other os'es
[09:03] <scratchy> I got it working under XGL
[09:03] <scratchy> Gnome with XGL
[09:03] <Tomcat_> b33r: Don't be rude, he was just trying to help. ;)
[09:03] <z0rz> How can I make my hard disk readable by all?
[09:03] <tvrg> z0rz: you shoudln't
[09:03] <tvrg> z0rz: not the entire disk
[09:03] <Kitsu1> GenghisKhan, the default driver that came with ubuntu, my wifi is atheros I think
[09:04] <scratchy> that's kinda stupid
[09:04] <DM|> b33r Referring you to someone else that can help you, is helping as far as I can. So yeah watch the attitude.
[09:04] <z0rz> ok fine.. How do I make my sda1 readable by all
[09:04] <LjL> z0rz: how can i make thieves steal my car and rob my house easily?
[09:04] <scratchy> you dont want me reading your harddisk
[09:04] <tvrg> z0rz: some external disk ok, but your sda1 shouldn't be read by anyone
[09:04] <LjL> z0rz: permissions can be controlled at the filesystem level (i.e. for single files). why don't you do that?
[09:04] <scratchy> use chmod
[09:04] <z0rz> LjL: Leave them unlocked?
[09:04] <scratchy> but WHY !
[09:04] <scratchy> is the question why take that risk
[09:04] <tvrg> z0rz: chmod a+r changes "all to readable" but pick a folder, not a disk
[09:04] <LjL> z0rz: yeah, that's an idea.
[09:04] <vsayikiran> well i want to know that whether ubuntu is more secure than windows
[09:04] <b33r> DM|, misleading me isn't good information, you said that I can't format and started babbling about million dollars which I'm not interested about
[09:05] <z0rz> LjL: Because I'm trying to create a virtual disk of my windows partition
[09:05] <z0rz> LjL: For VirtualBox
[09:05] <vsayikiran> i'm really nwew to linux so have many doubts
[09:05] <LjL> z0rz: and that requires read access for all?
[09:05] <tvrg> z0rz: chmod a+rw
[09:05] <b33r> Tomcat_,  thanks I installed ntfsprogs it worked
[09:05] <z0rz> tvrg: My "folder" is already 777
[09:05] <GenghisKhan> Kitsu1, then you can http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/AccessPointInterface
[09:05] <scratchy>  z0rz: yupp thats it
[09:05] <Tomcat_> b33r: Great. :-)
[09:05] <_SiLENT_> which is better - KDE or Gnome?
[09:05] <z0rz> LjL: Well, fine full read access to user X
[09:05] <LjL> !best > _SiLENT_    (_SiLENT_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:05] <tvrg> z0rz: 777 is god if 666 is the devil :)
[09:05] <Tomcat_> _SiLENT_: unanswerable. Everybody uses what he likes best. ;)
[09:05] <scratchy> YAY
[09:05] <frostburn> b33r, ntfsprogs, mkntfs
[09:05] <scratchy> octals gotta love em
[09:06] <LjL> z0rz: why can't you just do it as root? after all, if i got it correctly, you only need to do this *once*
[09:06] <_SiLENT_> what do u like?
[09:06] <scratchy> 100100100
[09:06] <scratchy> :-)
[09:06] <LjL> _SiLENT_: do you want 1234 answer?
[09:06] <z0rz> LjL: You got it incorrectly
[09:06] <_SiLENT_> ?
[09:06] <LjL> _SiLENT_: i like KDE, but that's just me. you can very easily try both at the same time
[09:06] <LjL> !kde > _SiLENT_    (_SiLENT_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:06] <tvrg> z0rz: try chmod a+rw -R
[09:06] <Creed> Can ubuntu be installed onto a 512mb flash drive?
[09:06] <DM|> b33r Ubuntuforums.org is a wonderful source of information, try the seach feature.
[09:06] <tvrg> or whatever --recursive maps to
[09:06] <tatters> does have linux/ubuntu have a equivelent to a roaming profile for a LAN
[09:08] <sgronblo> How can I get MiscFixed in the terminal?
[09:08] <_SiLENT_> so what about the rollback software - the one which rolls ur hdd back in time? anything like that in linux?
[09:08] <tvrg> _SiLENT_: you mean backups or version control?
[09:08] <LjL> z0rz: then explain again please... you have a physical Windows disk, and want to copy it to a VBox file.  but since you said that was incorrect, what you want to do is probably to use the Windows disk *directly*... correct? if so, that's generally a bad idea, as Windows gets confused easily.
[09:09] <tatters> u can image your drive n restore to an earler time#
[09:09] <scratchy> oooh isnt chmod a+r , chmod 4000 ?
[09:09] <LjL> z0rz: still, chmod a+rw /dev/sda1, while still being a bad idea, would probably do the trick, although because /dev is managed by udev, you'd probably have to do that at every boot
[09:09] <_SiLENT_> I mean rollback like in "Norton GoBack", "Rollback Rx", "AyRecovery" for Windows
[09:09] <_SiLENT_> imaging takes more time
[09:10] <_SiLENT_> imagine if u have a 160Gb HDD
[09:10] <scratchy> ooh no it's 4444
[09:10] <ompaul> _SiLENT_, it does not work that way
[09:10] <Creed> _SiLENT_, I image 2TB twice a week :)
[09:10] <ShackJack> Creed: I beleive you need > 700 MB
[09:10] <vsayikiran> i want to know where the programs get installed when i install them using apt-get install package-name
[09:10] <Creed> Worth it if you have important stuff you just cant afford to lose.
[09:10] <_SiLENT_> Creed, how does it then?
[09:11] <vsayikiran> what is the equivlent of progrma files in ubuntu
[09:11] <_SiLENT_> Creed, windows rollback software reverts any changes to disk u want
[09:11] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: There is no real equivalent, the files are all over the file system.
[09:11] <GenghisKhan> vsayikirian, /usr would be the most similar
[09:11] <vsayikiran> in which folder does the package gets installed
[09:11] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: You could say /usr, like GenghisKhan... or just /. :)
[09:11] <_SiLENT_> for example, u delete or modify a file, then u go back and the file is as if never touched
[09:11] <tvrg> vsayikiran: you shouldn't really care but /usr and /usr/local and /opt (all have a specific meaning)
[09:11] <LjL> vsayikiran: there is none. while on Windows programs are divided into one directory for each program (generally), in Unix directories tend to contain specific kinds of files, *regardless* of the program they belong to
[09:12] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: The package determines where it's installed.
[09:12] <blackhole> Is there someway i can login using root account instead of everything logging using general user account and writing sudo to even install a package?
[09:12] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: You can use "dpkg -L <package>" to see what files it installs, and where.
[09:12] <LjL> vsayikiran: so, executable programs are mostly in /usr/bin, but their icons (for instance) can be in /usr/share
[09:12] <frostburn> vsayikiran, every package installs all over, use system -> administration -> synaptic package manager, find your package, right click properties, then installed files
[09:12] <vsayikiran> i want to know where the settings of wallpaper-tray is stored
[09:12] <GenghisKhan> vsyikirian, have a look to http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[09:12] <tvrg> vsayikiran: that allows for more sharing of librarys etc
[09:12] <Tomcat_> blackhole: Yes. Do you really want to do that?
[09:12] <mtha> hi, is anyone here running the cfs kernel? thanks.
[09:12] <blackhole> Tomcat_, Yes
[09:12] <GenghisKhan> vsayikirian, probably in a dot-file in your home
[09:12] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: Settings are either in /etc/<program> or /home/<user>/.<program>
[09:12] <tvrg> blackhole: why?
[09:12] <ShackJack> blackhole: What do mean to "even install a package" if there's one thing you'd want admin perms on is that :)
[09:12] <ShackJack> !sudo | blackhole
[09:12] <ubotu> blackhole: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:13] <ShackJack> DOH!
[09:13] <frostburn> blackhole, sudo -i works well enough
[09:13] <Tomcat_> blackhole: You can use "sudo passwd root", but I suggest reading the page ubotu just gave you.
[09:13] <blackhole> ShackJack, How can i give admin permission..?
[09:13] <_SiLENT_> and where do the programs store their settings in Ubuntu? is there such a problem as junk entries in windows registry?
[09:13] <tvrg> blackhole: use sudo for temporary admin access (similar to vista UAC)
[09:13] <ShackJack> blackhole you don't want to - it's a dumb idea ;)
[09:13] <vsayikiran> if i am using apt-get install where does the package gets stored
[09:13] <LjL> _SiLENT_: "depends"
[09:13] <ompaul> blackgoth, go to the web page it tells you all
[09:13] <mtha> hi can i have some help with installing the cfs kernel? please
[09:13] <_SiLENT_> LjL, details?
[09:13] <frostburn> _SiLENT_, check out my previous message, and no, there's no registry
[09:13] <ompaul> blackhole, , go to the web page it tells you all
[09:13] <Tomcat_> _SiLENT_: Either in /etc or in /home/<user>. Some use a registry-like thing called "gconf". But it's not nearly as bad.
[09:13] <LjL> _SiLENT_: /etc stores system-wide settings for (mostly) console programs and daemons (i.e. system services)
[09:13] <blackhole> ok
[09:14] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[09:14] <LjL> _SiLENT_: application settings are generally in a hidden directory in a user's home
[09:14] <Tomcat_> _SiLENT_: But to be complete, you *can* have too many settings files on your PC, sure. :)
[09:14] <vsayikiran> i want to know in which folder does a package get stored after i run apt-get install
[09:14] <GenghisKhan> vsayikirian, different types of files go to different directories
[09:14] <Tomcat_> vsayikiran: Run "dpkg -L <package>". That lists all the files.
[09:14] <LjL> _SiLENT_: generally speaking, each program puts its settings wherever it wants, in whatever format it wants
[09:14] <tck> has tribe 6 been skipped?
[09:14] <mtha> tseliot, are u there?
[09:14] <LjL> _SiLENT_: so you can have, for example, /home/silent/.someprogram/someprogramrc ("rc" being a common suffix for "configuration file")
[09:14] <ShackJack> tck: Yes - it is a bugfixing release...
[09:14] <_SiLENT_> so everything is the same as in windows :)
[09:15] <Tomcat_> tck: It was a bugfix-only milestone. And, #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <tck> ShackJack, ok
[09:15] <LjL> _SiLENT_: GNOME programs, on the other hand, use the GConf framework, which is quite similar to the Windows registry, but more lightweight
[09:15] <Tomcat_> _SiLENT_: Yes, but the problems aren't really as bad. And I was a registry hacker. ;)
[09:15] <cyberfin> Hi there
[09:15] <LjL> _SiLENT_: try typing "apt-cache show gconf-editor" if you want to peek at it
[09:15] <tvrg> hi cyberfin
[09:15] <cyberfin> Is there a quick answer to why the 3d desktop won't work just after I activated my agp?
[09:16] <cyberfin> with restricted drivers...
[09:16] <tvrg> cyberfin: no, in feisty the 3d desktop is experimental
[09:16] <tvrg> cyberfin: a lot has been written on the forums
[09:16] <_SiLENT_> what I mean is, after uninstalling a program - does it leave junk in files or some registry-like place?
[09:16] <cyberfin> ah, so no good reason then :)
[09:16] <cyberfin> i'll take a look
[09:16] <tvrg> cyberfin: there will be an answer, just not quick :)
[09:17] <cyberfin> well ya gotta ask, no?
[09:17] <GenghisKhan> _SiLENT_: user settings of a program are left when uninstalled
[09:17] <LjL> _SiLENT_: it depends. it *does* leave "junk" around, and that's by design (you may want to re-install it later) -- whether it leaves it in plain files, or in GConf, it depends on whether the program is a GNOME program or not
[09:17] <tvrg> cyberfin: sure
[09:17] <cyberfin> thnx nway
[09:17] <tvrg> cyberfin: but it should be supported in the next release (in a couple of weeks)
[09:17] <cyberfin> ooooo
[09:17] <GenghisKhan> _SiLENT_: on the other hand, system settings are deleted if you "purge" the program, but left if you just "remove"
[09:17] <cyberfin> *looks at calendar
[09:17] <LjL> _SiLENT_: in either case, chances that it will affect you system's performances are about... zero
[09:18] <_SiLENT_> so there is an option to "purge"?
[09:18] <tvrg> cyberfin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[09:18] <LjL> _SiLENT_: as he said, only for *systemwide* settings.
[09:18] <cyberfin> hehe thnx again!
[09:18] <Tomcat_> _SiLENT_: The difference is that the settings files are much easier to remove (just delete them in *one* location), and there are only few of them, one for each program (and none at all for the system settings). That's much better than in Windows, where you got multiple locations and millions of entries. ;)
[09:18] <GenghisKhan> _SiLENT_, yes, just do "aptitude purge package"
[09:18] <LjL> _SiLENT_: GUI applications that are configured by the single users have their settings saved in the user's home directory -- and those won't be "purged"
[09:19] <GenghisKhan> LjL: and of course that's the way it should be
[09:20] <LjL> GenghisKhan: well, i'm not sure i agree. i think there *should* be a way to purge the user settings of an application without having to hunt down the files or GConf entries manually. but well, there just isn't
[09:20] <_SiLENT_> but windows also has "one" place for software settings  -HKLM/Software ot HKU/Software, but still programs write to many other places too
[09:20] <_SiLENT_> in linux programs write only to one place?
[09:20] <GenghisKhan> LjL: it's an user matter to remove user configs, not an admin matter
[09:21] <LjL> GenghisKhan: right, but nothing (except the current design) would prevent you from having a *usermode* tool to help remove the settings
[09:21] <paolo> hi. when I try to download with apt-get, it connects to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1) and doesn't work. what could be broken?
[09:21] <Mouzz> I have a ralink rt2500 pcmcia card and I can't get it to work with wpa even after searching the internet... I'm using ndiswrapper and dmesg sais "wlan0: ethernet device undis driver rt2500" and "wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA..." At the end dmesg sais: "ra0: link not ready. Everywhere the wifi card is referenced as "ra0" yet in dmesg it's also referenced as wlan0. Can anyone give me an explanation or a pointer?
[09:21] <GenghisKhan> LjL: and why would you need to purge user settings?
[09:21] <LjL> _SiLENT_: all programs write to the home directory of the user who's using them. you can be sure that they'll never write anything outside of that directory (unless they run at root, in which case, however, their global settings *can* be purged)
[09:22] <MongooseWA> ubuntu keeps freezing when I try to shut down/log off
[09:22] <aaron_> what's up?
[09:22] <MongooseWA> i think it might be compiz fusion/emerald
[09:22] <LjL> GenghisKhan: because i don't need either the application or its settings anymore, and i don't want them lying around?
[09:22] <aaron_> i'm sorry about your freezing problem mongoose
[09:22] <_SiLENT_> I am installing ubuntu now, why does it say smth like "checksum for device 1 is bad.."?
[09:22] <GenghisKhan> LjL: you just get a few KBs by deletting
[09:23] <aaron_> silent-i think you didn't burn the iso right
[09:23] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: Bad burn on CD - did you run the check cd for defects thingie...
[09:23] <_SiLENT_> nope
[09:23] <LjL> GenghisKhan: not necessarily! very small files can be stored as *big* files, depending on the filesystem. also, more inodes means more stuff to search though
[09:23] <_SiLENT_> but it a shipped CD, how can it be bad?
[09:23] <LjL> through
[09:24] <vsayikiran> how to defragment my harddisk
[09:24] <Niklas_E> which is the fastest for a amd64? amd64 or i386?
[09:24] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: Well, i dunno - like how anything else can be bad, I suppose. Evil spirits :)
[09:24] <LjL> _SiLENT_: it does happen
[09:24] <pekka> #ubuntu-fi
[09:24] <GenghisKhan> LjL: good point, but I keep thinking it isn't worth the effort
[09:24] <LjL> !info defrag | vsayikiran, but it's mostly not needed with ext3
[09:24] <ubotu> vsayikiran, but it's mostly not needed with ext3: defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:24] <aaron_> yeah how do you defrag a disk
[09:24] <scratchy> ok just checking but is this message coming through...(firewall check)
[09:24] <_SiLENT_> what do I do? run the check first?
[09:24] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[09:24] <LjL> GenghisKhan: well, because it has to be done manually. if it could be done with one single, automated command, i think it would be worth the effort ;)
[09:24] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: Yes and it'll say if it found any errors..
[09:24] <_SiLENT_> ok
[09:25] <scratchy>  is IRC on port 32759 ?
[09:25] <mohamed_> hello all, maybe is general problem but this happen while installing edubuntu,  i install it from this cd more than once and also on the same pc , but this time i face some errors, the last when i start with CD to install i get this error :- ACPI: Unable to load system Description table ........... Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found try passing init=option to kernel
[09:25] <frostburn> 6667
[09:25] <LjL> scratchy: it's usually on 6667
[09:25] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: At least it eliminates the most likely problem..
[09:25] <vsayikiran> i think my ubuntu is running slowly
[09:25] <vsayikiran> when i installed it was fast
[09:25] <GenghisKhan> LjL: time to submit something to a wishlist :)
[09:25] <vsayikiran> so i want to defragment the disk
[09:25] <scratchy> Im getting like 1000 pings from all kinds of ip addresses on 32759
[09:26] <Huey> scratchy, you could be getting attacked or something maybe
[09:26] <LjL> GenghisKhan: nah, it's too hardcoded into the Unix design to fix in an elegant way
[09:26] <vsayikiran> does any one know how to defragment ext3 partition
[09:26] <frostburn> vsayikiran, no such thing
[09:26] <LjL> vsayikiran: i just told you
[09:26] <LjL> frostburn: not true
[09:26] <frostburn> the only way is to copy from one partition to another
[09:26] <vsayikiran> i feel my ubuntu is running bit slow
[09:26] <LjL> vsayikiran: i also told you it's unnecessary, and won't give you any perceivable speed improvement, but feel free to try
[09:26] <GenghisKhan> LjL: i don't think so. just add some kind of info tag to packages which says where the configs are to be stored
[09:27] <Gizmo_the_Great> how can I rescan the USB bus for a newly attached device that is not being detected?
[09:27] <LjL> !info defrag | frostburn (and yes, it does work with ext3 in Edgy and Feisty)
[09:27] <ubotu> frostburn (and yes, it does work with ext3 in edgy and feisty): defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:27] <GenghisKhan> LjL: then a gui app to show a list, read the config locations, and delete them
[09:27] <vsayikiran> how to speed up my ubuntu ?
[09:27] <mikebot> What's the command in terminal to edit a file?
[09:27] <Gizmo_the_Great> mikebot, gedit filename
[09:27] <LjL> mikebot: try "nano"
[09:27] <MongooseWA> sudo gedit "file"
[09:27] <mikebot> Gizmo_the_Great: Thanks.
[09:27] <mikebot> LjL: Thanks.
[09:27] <rathel> I like vim.
[09:27] <mikebot> And sudo gedit if I need permission?
[09:28] <LjL> GenghisKhan: what if the program uses GConf, you'd have to make something ad-hoc for various cases
[09:28] <ompaul> vsayikiran, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552632 and then follow this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2369.html
[09:28] <Gizmo_the_Great> mikebot, you guessed it
[09:28] <frostburn> LjL, how long has that been out
[09:28] <LjL> mikebot: no - gedit is a GUI app, so use "gksudo"
[09:28] <LjL> "gksudo
[09:28] <vsayikiran> how much free space is necessaary for / partition
[09:28] <genii> gksudo gedit, not sudo gedit
[09:28] <GenghisKhan> GenghisKhan: yes, it isn't straight forward
[09:28] <mikebot> LjL: Oh, thanks.
[09:28] <mikebot> Gizmo_the_Great: thanks.
[09:28] <metatronsage> im having a really bad problem tryin to get JRE working correctly, have doing a complete uninstall reinstall and tried as many other things as i can think of with no luck, any ideas?
[09:28] <GenghisKhan> i have to go. bye all!
[09:28] <Gizmo_the_Great> mikebot, either will work
[09:28] <LjL> frostburn: the "defrag" package has existed for the past... 20 years or so. but it used to not be compatible with ext3
[09:28] <ompaul> vsayikiran, you said you have it installed - so what are you on about you are looking like a troll at this stage
[09:28] <metatronsage> on feisty btw
[09:28] <Wips> I tried editing my external drive, so that I could edit, delete and write files too. but when I tried to remount it says it can't mount. I thought I could just edit it back to the defaults, but I can't find the settings in fstab
[09:29] <mpoufos_sketo> which program you guys recomend for creating simple html pages?
[09:29] <LjL> nano
[09:29] <shadeofgrey> so
[09:29] <shadeofgrey> hypotheticlly speaking
[09:29] <metatronsage> gedit mpousfos :P
[09:29] <frostburn> gedit/vi/emacs
[09:29] <Wips> mpoufos_sketo, vim?
[09:29] <ompaul> Wips, what file system is on that external drive?
[09:29] <Wips> ompaul, ntfs, I tried setting it to ntfs-3g
[09:29] <mpoufos_sketo> no I mean like front page or macromedia dreamwaver
[09:29] <stefg> mpoufos_sketo: openoffice can do that
[09:29] <Wips> mpoufos_sketo, definitly dreamweave before frontpage
[09:29] <shadeofgrey> would ubuntu have any problems with utilixing a pc with dual 8000 nvidia cards in SLI mode?
[09:29] <vsayikiran> how much free space is needed in / partition for ubuntu to work properly
[09:29] <dgjones> !kompozer | mpoufos_sketo
[09:29] <ubotu> mpoufos_sketo: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {dapper,edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)
[09:29] <genii> mpoufos_sketo: You can export to html from openoffice writer
[09:30] <mikebot> If I update my privoxy actions file, how do I reload it so that it reads the new file?
[09:30] <etale> is it possible to change the appearance of the main panel? for example, to change the color of "appearances Places System" to white, not black?
[09:30] <ompaul> Wips, ahh if it was fat I would have said do a file system check, and I don't know how that is done with that file system
[09:30] <ompaul> vsayikiran, you said you have it installed - so what are you on about you are looking like a troll at this stage
[09:30] <genii> vsayikiran: You will need a minumum of about 2.6 Gb /
[09:30] <shadeofgrey> vsayikiran, i suppose you could do it in as little as 10 gig but...  if you wanted applications and shit id say realistically youd want like 80-250
[09:30] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[09:30] <metatronsage> im having a really bad problem tryin to get JRE working correctly, have doing a complete uninstall reinstall and tried as many other things as i can think of with no luck, any ideas?
[09:31] <mohamed_> while installing edubuntu,  i get this error after i  choose install :-" ACPI: Unable to load system Description table" ..........." Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found try passing init=option to kernel" can anyone help me ?
[09:31] <kri> what is it, that my usbmouse is lagging when putting my wlan pcmcia card in?
[09:31] <ompaul> !bootoptions | mohamed_ (the urls here should help you somewhat)
[09:31] <ubotu> mohamed_ (the urls here should help you somewhat): For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:31] <stefg> mohamed_: tell about your hardware
[09:32] <esper] > hello
[09:32] <PriceChild> shadeofgrey, vsayikiran you only need about 2.5Gb for the standard install... what you want to install extra or your own documents will mean more
[09:32] <mikebot> Thanks, bye.
[09:32] <esper] > having some odd issues getting xorg to come back up
[09:32] <esper] > installed the msttcorefonts package
[09:32] <Wips> ompaul, but how can I edit it back? I mean.. I plug it in and it only says "Can't mount to that location".. Considering it's plugged in there's gotta be somewhere I can edit it? It's gotta be in the system
[09:32] <djm63> um, could anyone give me a rough estimate of download size to upgrade from running feisty to gutsy? I need to pay in advance...
[09:32] <mohamed_> stefg, pc is athlon 1100 1 GB ram, and the system was installed b4 from the same CD
[09:32] <esper] > and another font named triskweline and it worked fine until i shutdown X to start up a new compile of xmonad
[09:32] <metatronsage> anyone here experianced with jre issues? anyone? really need a hand with this :(
[09:32] <esper] > getting "could not init font path element /usr/share/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc, remove from list
[09:32] <vsayikiran> after installing ubuntu i installed windows xp and then i wasn't able to boot in linux wot could be the problem?
[09:33] <ompaul> Wips, got one of them windows boxes handy
[09:33] <esper] > does that for 2 other fonts
[09:33] <djm63> so once I've done all the repository changing, it's a bit late
[09:33] <dgjones> !grub | vsayikiran
[09:33] <ubotu> vsayikiran: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:33] <esper] > any ideas?
[09:33] <ShackJack> djm63: That's a tough one but around 400MB...
[09:33] <metatronsage> vsayikirin your grub bootloader is overwritten
[09:33] <ompaul> Wips, it is the wrong fs for me to work out how it works
[09:33] <metatronsage> reinstall grub
[09:33] <esper] > that and "waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE" "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1. fixing
[09:33] <_SiLENT_> the CD has no errors, i checked
[09:33] <djm63> ShackJack: that's not bad
[09:33] <vsayikiran> yes metatronsage
[09:33] <VirtualPC> Hi
[09:33] <djm63> overnight job, but OK
[09:33] <esper] > and doesnt help
[09:33] <VirtualPC> I'm buzzing
[09:34] <VirtualPC> Hello room
[09:34] <tvrg> VirtualPC: whats the point?
[09:34] <VirtualPC> the point?
[09:34] <rlount> VirtualPC, buzzing on caffiene or an Ubuntu high? ;)
[09:34] <VirtualPC> Yes
[09:34] <stefg> mohamed_: try setting the bios to 'safe defaults' and install again. You might need to use the 'noacpi' boot option . see 'lspci' to find out about your motherboards chipset and search the forums if there are known issuses
[09:34] <tvrg> VirtualPC: this is a fairly high volume channel, not chatty at all
[09:35] <VirtualPC> I just got Ubuntu working under Virtual PC 2007 :)
[09:35] <esper] > anyone know how to fix that font problem?
[09:35] <tvrg> VirtualPC: nice for you
[09:35] <jamison> trying to configure samba... is there a GUI?
[09:35] <rlount> jamison, SWAT
[09:35] <_SiLENT_> checksum for device 1 is not valid
[09:35] <mohamed_> thanks stefg  i'm reading now and if i gace something i will ask again
[09:35] <Evanlec_> !noacpi
[09:35] <_SiLENT_> checksum for device 2 is not valid
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noacpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <Evanlec_> !acpi
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <_SiLENT_> what do these mean?
[09:36] <jamison> rlount: i installed SWAT but i cannot connect on http://localhost:901 ... do i need to add a firewall exception or restart or something?
[09:36] <rlount> jamison, most likely culprit is xinetd
[09:36] <shadeofgrey> okay
[09:36] <shadeofgrey> so
[09:36] <shadeofgrey> folks
[09:36] <shadeofgrey> i need guidance
[09:36] <jamison> rlount: i suspected the same... do i need to restart or config. it?
[09:36] <rlount> jamison, check /etc/xinetd.d/swat make sure itr's enabled and restart the service.
[09:37] <_SiLENT_> I have windows on NTFS, how do I install Ubuntu so that I have both?
[09:37] <jamison> its enabled -- how do i restart it?
[09:37] <preaction_> !wubi | _SiLENT_
[09:37] <ubotu> _SiLENT_: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[09:37] <stefg> !install | _SiLENT_
[09:37] <ubotu> _SiLENT_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:37] <shadeofgrey> does ubuntu play nicve with computers running two nvidia 8800 ultra cards iun SLI mode or no?
[09:37] <dgjones> !dualboot | _SiLENT_
[09:37] <ubotu> _SiLENT_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[09:37] <esper] > _SiLENT_: google for dualbooting xp and ubuntu
[09:37] <rlount> jamison, if you are running a firewall and are trying to connect from another machine, yes. poke a hole for 901.
[09:37] <jamison> rlount: nope just trying to connect to localhost
[09:37] <rlount> jamison, cool.
[09:37] <shadeofgrey> furthermore can i use two 30" samsung displays at the same time?
[09:38] <esper] > anyone know much about xorg fonts?
[09:38] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_ - are you installng on Virtual PC by any chance?
[09:38] <CoCaInE> Guys i got problem, i try to setup vnc4server , i connect to serv and got error 10061 ,if i try to connect :0 it dont help
[09:38] <jamison> how do i restart xinetd?
[09:38] <_SiLENT_> ShackJack, yeah, how did u know?
[09:38] <praw> xinetd? ctrl alt backspace i think
[09:38] <Wips> ompaul, I figured it out, opened cgonf-editor and found the key there, just removed it.. and remounted the drive..
[09:38] <tvrg> jamison: /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[09:38] <genii> jamison: sudo /etyc/init.d/xinted restart
[09:38] <genii> arg typos
[09:38] <jmbp> Hi.. were can I ask questions about LTSP on feisty?
[09:39] <rlount> jamison, /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[09:39] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: Just googled it... try *lower* allocated memory to 256MB - you'll get error but it should continue...
[09:39] <CoCaInE> i try to setup vnc4server , i connect to serv and got error 10061 ,if i try to connect :0 it dont help
[09:39] <genii> tvrg Thx, no typos in yours :)
[09:39] <praw> nevermind, ctrl alt bakckspace restarts X
[09:39] <ompaul> Wips, cool care to add that to the !ntfs page?
[09:39] <tvrg> genii: but no sudo either :)
[09:39] <pontusen> how does one change the locales? :|
[09:39] <stefg> shadeofgrey: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=326&num=1 abit aged but still worth a read
[09:39] <tvrg> !setlocale | pontusen
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setlocale - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <tvrg> crap :)
[09:39] <Wips> ompaul, uh >.< I have not done that before but.. If you show me, sure?
[09:40] <pontusen> tvrg, could've worked ;)
[09:40] <_SiLENT_> ShackJack, i have set it to 256Mb, can u gimme link?
[09:40] <ompaul> Wips, got a launchpad account?
[09:40] <Wips> ompaul, nope
[09:40] <ompaul> Wips,  launchpad.net
[09:40] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: sorry, no  just read it somewhere in ubuntu forums
[09:40] <jamison> rlount: actually the config is in /etc/inetd.conf
[09:40] <CoCaInE> Any1 will help me with VNC4server
[09:41] <ompaul> Wips, start there and come back to me
[09:41] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: is this mac or windows?
[09:41] <jamison> rlount: swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[09:41] <_SiLENT_> windows
[09:41] <ompaul> Wips, then we take it to pm too much grief
[09:41] <_SiLENT_> how do i find the info?
[09:41] <rlount> jamison, happens. there are different approaches to inetd
[09:41] <jamison> rlount: but that's enabled, right?
[09:41] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: I have Ubuntu running with "Windows as the guest OS running on VirtualBox - runs real sweet...
[09:41] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: google error message ubuntu
[09:41] <rlount> jamison, looks like it.
[09:41] <jamison> sudo: /etc/init.d/xinetd: command not found
[09:42] <jamison> is there another way to restart it?
[09:42] <_SiLENT_> ShackJack, I want to stay in Windows untill I learn ubuntu
[09:42] <rlount> jamison, you'll want /etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd reload.
[09:43] <ShackJack> _SiLENT_: P.S. They have VirtualBox for Windows hosts to (virtualbox.org) which I'm using (linux version) and runs real well...
[09:43] <stefg> _SiLENT_: in general i would resist the temptation of going down the 'easy' way of wubi. make a proper backup of your disk, then resize the ntfs to give ubuntu at least arounf 4-5 GB empty space (unpartitioned) and just et the installer do its job
[09:43] <rlount> jamison, scope out you /etc/init.d directory too, it's a good way to become familiar w/ whats loaded.
[09:43] <ubuntu> ola k tal
[09:43] <ShackJack> stefg: He's using Virtual PC...
[09:43] <PaulEU> helo! Is there a chance that in 7.04 will be new AdobeReader 8.1.1 ?
[09:43] <tvrg> jamison: what ubuntu version?
[09:43] <jamison> rlount: looking now... but that's not in there either
[09:43] <jamison> i'm running fiesty
[09:43] <tvrg> PaulEU: no, adobe is non free, you'll still have to download it from the adobe site
[09:43] <rlount> jamison, ls -ls /etc/init.g |grep inet
[09:44] <ShackJack> PaulEU: Absolutely none - you'd likely have to add an extra repo...
[09:44] <rlount> s/init.g/init.d
[09:44] <rlount> sorry.
[09:44] <PaulEU> tvrg: but there is in rpm format :/
[09:44] <Wips> ompaul, Registered
[09:44] <damjan|work> anyone knows where to find more resources on the ubuntu jeos? (just enough OS)
[09:44] <stefg> PaulEU: no, because that's proprietary software which will never be included if ther alternatives (evince).
[09:44] <jamison> rlount: no matches
[09:44] <m1ke> Anyone be able to help me get xbox 360 controller to work on gutsy?
[09:44] <PaulEU> ShackJack: is there repos for new adobe?
[09:45] <stefg> !acrobat
[09:45] <rlount> jamison, sudo aptitude install inetutils-inetd
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <vsayikiran> is there any way to install security patches from terminal
[09:45] <stefg> !seveas
[09:45] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[09:45] <stefg> PaulEU: ^^^
[09:45] <CoCaInE> Any1 would help me with VNC ?
[09:45] <tvrg> PaulEU: plenty help on the forum about that
[09:45] <jamison> rlount: ok done, trying again
[09:45] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade ...
[09:46] <tvrg> !acrobat
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <vsayikiran> i want to download and install security upadte from ubuntu website using terminal
[09:46] <ShackJack> vsayikiran: ^^^^
[09:46] <Kitsu1> What does the "Rx invalid nwid" mean in the iwconfig output?
[09:46] <stefg> vsayikiran: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:46] <PaulEU> stefg: thx for reply
[09:46] <PaulEU> tvrg: ^
[09:46] <jamison> rlount: yay! it worked and so does SWAT now... thnx
[09:47] <rlount> jamison, welcome.
[09:47] <shadeofgrey> what th hell is SWAT
[09:47] <stefg> !samba
[09:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:47] <vsayikiran> which one is correct sudo aptitude update or sudo apt-get apdate
[09:47] <DaBonBon> anyone from the ubuntu audio team around ?
[09:47] <stefg> vsayikiran: both work
[09:47] <cox377> hey all
[09:47] <testcees2> VNC: search for vnc in combination with inted to autostart the vncserver.
[09:48] <tvrg> hey cox377
[09:48] <rlount> jamison, the reason you had to do that bit of hassling is Ubuntu ships no port open by default, inetd really needs to be looked after, make sure you aren't listening on anything other than what you should be.
[09:48] <cox377> whats the best way to make a backup of my entire current ubuntu install - basically wanna move it over to another hdd
[09:48] <dgjones> !backup | cox377
[09:48] <ubotu> cox377: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:48] <tvrg> cox377: try "sudo apt-get install sbackup"
[09:48] <rlount> jamison, sudo lsof -i |grep LISTEN  should show 901, maybe 22 and possibly some rpc stuff.
[09:48] <tvrg> cox377: then look for simple backup in system > admin
[09:48] <jamison> rlount: i noticed the empty iptables...
[09:48] <cox377> dgjones: cheers for the heads up!
[09:49] <Kworth> Hello I pluged in an usbstick to my ubuntu laptop - > its fat32 I think, I cant delete some files, even as root - and I cant change permissions of course - what can I do?
[09:49] <Anlar> shadeofgrey: SWAT? samba web administration thingy? completely crappy interface for configurating samba
[09:49] <testcees2> my favorite backup is rsnapshot
[09:49] <cox377> tvrg: cheers - shall take a look
[09:49] <rlount> jamison, you don't want finger or something listening.
[09:49] <rlount> =)
[09:49] <ryms> hey
[09:49] <tom_> join
[09:49] <stefg> cox377: basically you can just copy the stuff over. all you have to worry for is /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst and grub being in the mbr of the boot disk
[09:49] <jamison> rlount: looking now... no finger... cupsd, hpiod, python, skype, smbd, smbd, inetutils
[09:50] <rlount> jamison, cool, if it's what you have set up, all good.
[09:50] <cox377> stefg: its basically all my configs etc etc
[09:50] <jamison> rlount: yep, thnx.
[09:50] <jamison> is there a way to get textboxes to undo what you pasted in them with CTRL+Z? i liked being able to do that in xp...
[09:51] <jamison> is there a way to get the terminal to auto copy when you select text in the window?
[09:51] <vraa-sony> you know what would be a really cool feature? making updates function through torrents on a LAN.
[09:51] <tvrg> jamison: ctrl shift c and ctrl shift p copy paste in terminal
[09:51] <rlount> jamison, try middle clicking where you want to paste while text is highlighted.
[09:51] <Kworth> Hello I pluged in an usbstick to my ubuntu laptop - > its fat32 I think, I cant delete some files, even as root - and I cant change permissions of course - what can I do??
[09:51] <jamison> try middle clicking
[09:51] <stefg> cox377:  you just need to copy everything (dot-files, preserve permissions)
[09:52] <jamison> rlount: oh... so it does copy? or it doesn't copy until i click the mid button?
[09:52] <vraa-sony> Kworth, try double checking that it's fat32, it sounds like it might be NTFS. are you running 7.04 ?
[09:52] <tvrg> jamison: it copys when selecting, pastes when you click the scroll wheel, otherwise use ctrl shift c and ctrl shift v
[09:52] <rlount> jamison, dunno ;) I think it copies to buffer when highlighted.
[09:52] <Kworth> vraa-sony: Yes I think its 7.04 - if that is the most recent
[09:52] <genii> Kworth: Yes i would also suggest it is ntfs filesystem, since ubuntu can write to fat out of the box.
[09:53] <jamison> tvrg: diff. between ctrl+v and ctrl+shift+v?
[09:53] <Kworth> vraa-sony, genii - actually It is just fat not fat32
[09:53] <rlount> jamison, one command has an xtra keystroke ;) but the shit addition is for Gnome Terminal
[09:53] <vraa-sony> Kworth, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[09:53] <vraa-sony> try that link
[09:53] <tvrg> jamison: terminal often has other shortcuts mapped to ctrl c, so you need to use ctrl shif c to copy in a terminal, and ctrl shift p to pste in a terminal, in the other apps you can use regular ctrl v
[09:53] <rlount> jamison, it does not work in Konsole or Terminal
[09:54] <tvrg> ctrl shift v
[09:54] <vraa-sony> oh, you say it's not NTFS? interesting
[09:54] <neverblue> jamison, look at the edit menu in your terminal
[09:54] <tvrg> jamison: in terminal you just need ctrl shift instead of ctrl, to avoid colliding with other commands
[09:54] <jamison> tvrg, rlount: i'm familiar with PuTTY in XP, where you can paste with right-click and copy just by selecting text... does Terminal do this, or can i configure it to, or is there another app, or maybe even PuTTY for linux?
[09:55] <rlount> jamison, I was trying to say (while eating pizza) ctrl-shift-v works in Gnome Terminal, but no Konsole or Terminal.
[09:55] <tvrg> jamison: yes, you can still right click
[09:55] <jamison> tvrg: i mean right-click literally pasted, it didn't bring up a menu
[09:55] <rlount> jamison, I don't think so, the non-menu thingie.
[09:55] <tvrg> jamison: ah, k, been a while since i needed putty
[09:55] <rlount> jamison, thats where middle click comes in.
[09:56] <Kworth> It is fat - anyone knows why I cant modify or delete some files?
[09:56] <neverblue> Kworth, is it a local filesystem ?
[09:56] <jamison> tvrg, rlount: i see i can config. hotkeys for ctrl+c ctrl+v... that gets me half way
[09:56] <genii> Kworth: It is conceivable the filesystem was not marked clean and is so mounted readonly.
[09:56] <Kworth> neverblue, its a usb stick
[09:57] <ex_> Can anyone help me connect my Linux PC with my Windows Workgroup, I have already editted the smb.conf file to workgroup = WORKGROUP
[09:57] <Kworth> genii: so do I need to add it to the fstab or what to do then?
[09:57] <MongooseWA> ubuntu decided to put shortcuts to my windows partition on my desktop and under Places. how do i switch this to the default ext3 partition?
[09:57] <tvrg> jamison: i'd use the ctrl shift shortcut, remapping it to ctrl c and ctrl v might collide with other stuff
[09:57] <neverblue> Kworth, you want to delete files on your USB stick that are FAT, and you cannot ?
[09:57] <Kworth> neverblue, yes exactly
[09:57] <neverblue> stick that is FAT*
[09:57] <neverblue> Kworth, can you view the files on it ?
[09:57] <genii> kworth: If unclean fs is the problem, run scandisk on it from a windows machine, then try remounting it again in ubuntu
[09:57] <Kworth> neverblue, yes
[09:58] <tvrg> jamison: who knows you might end up liking vi or something :)
[09:58] <neverblue> Kworth, can you check the permissions of it ?
[09:58] <Kworth> neverblue: its fat so I cant change them either
[09:58] <rlount> tvrg, rawk it hard w/ the VI
[09:58] <Kworth> neverblue, but it says i can write and read
[09:58] <jamison> tvrg: i like vim :)
[09:58] <rlount> jamison, forget your Windows/Putty dayz.
[09:58] <tvrg> jamison: then don't mess with the default shortcuts: )
[09:59] <neverblue> Kworth, so you user have permissions set on it, to read and write ?
[09:59] <Dimitar> answer the damjan|work question!
[09:59] <jamison> rlount: but select-to-copy made life so much easier :( it happened in Trillian, also... gaim doesn't do it... *sniffle*
[09:59] <Kworth> neverblue: thats what it says
[09:59] <Kworth> neverblue, I had it automounted
[09:59] <neverblue> where are you viewing the permissions at ?
[10:00] <neverblue> which directory..
[10:00] <jamison> do i have to create the 'nobody' account before i can use it on a fresh fiesty install?
[10:00] <Kworth> hold on for a sex
[10:00] <tvrg> rlount: i do all my dev stuff in vi and couldn't live without it, 5dd, :.,+5s/^/#/ etc
[10:00] <tvrg> love it
[10:00] <Kworth> hold on for a sec
[10:00] <nooga> damn
[10:00] <rlount> tvrg, agreed. :! ls
[10:00] <rlount> saves my ass
[10:00] <nooga> after instalation of feisty my disk can't stop working intensively
[10:01] <neverblue> !language
[10:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <nooga> it works for several hours
[10:01] <tvrg> rlount: your ass and my job (cuz i'm a slow dev using a fast editor :))
[10:01] <nbkr> nooga, is beagle or updatedb running?
[10:01] <Kworth> neverblue, for some strange reason it works now, but thanks for your help
[10:01] <rlount> tvrg, =)
[10:01] <MongooseWA> ubuntu decided to put shortcuts to my windows partition on my desktop and under Places. how do i switch this to the default ext3 partition?
[10:01] <neverblue> np Kworth
[10:01] <Dimitar> tvrg: it's better to keep your mouth closed ;)
[10:01] <pvl1> how can i mount my ipod with read/write access for anyone?
[10:02] <jamison> does anyone know what i have to add to smb.conf to get it to quit prompting me for a password to view the share from a windows machine?
[10:02] <tvrg> :)
[10:02] <rlount> jamison, why would you want passwdless shares?
[10:02] <neverblue> jamison, its well documented, in man samba
[10:02] <jamison> rlount: well whatever. it won't even let me login with an actual user account...
[10:03] <jamison> neverblue: i have the docs, but what i tried isn't workin.
[10:03] <nooga> nbkr: beagle is, but even if i kill beagled the disk scratches
[10:03] <genii> jamison: sudo smbpasswd -ae <username>
[10:03] <nbkr> nooga, Tried hdparm ?
[10:03] <nooga> no
[10:03] <rlount> jamison, smbpasswd is one thing, also check auth type, passwd backend...
[10:03] <nooga> how?
[10:04] <jamison> genii: failed to find user <username> in passdb backend.
[10:04] <luig> where can i make sugestions or ideas about nautilus? I have one and i want it to get to de developers.
[10:04] <rlount> jamison, Samba is really complex. You might want to check out the doc @ samba.org
[10:04] <gordonjcp> luig: if you look in the help menu, it might tell you an email address
[10:04] <neverblue> jamison, tried in #samba ?
[10:05] <jamison> neverblue: excellent idea!
[10:05] <neverblue> ;)
[10:05] <nemanaddin> hi
[10:05] <CoCaInE> usage: vncpasswd [passwdFile] 
[10:05] <CoCaInE> whats that about
[10:05] <tvrg> nemanaddin: hi
[10:05] <CoCaInE> i try to make vncpasswd
[10:05] <nemanaddin> anyone can help me?
 thanks a lot
[10:06] <tvrg> nemanaddin: what's the problem?
[10:06] <genii> jamison: Where I put <username> you insert the name of a user name eg:   sudo smbpasswd -ae fred                  where fred is a valid name on the linux machine.
[10:06] <czarnista> I' ve just installed ubuntu on presario m2000 and I can't get the power management to work properly. The battery indicator always shows 0%. Any suggestions?
[10:06] <Doitle> What is the terminal command to become root in the ui?
[10:06] <nemanaddin> i can connect vpn by kvpnc
[10:07] <nemanaddin> bu my ip dont change!!
[10:07] <lazaruslupine> gksudo?
[10:07] <Dimitar> aha
[10:07] <Dimitar> gksudo nautilus
[10:07] <pvl1> how can i mount my ipod with read permissions for everyone
[10:07] <tvrg> nemanaddin: it probaly shouldn't but vpn is a complicated matter
[10:07] <neverblue> nemanaddin, what language do you speak ?
[10:07] <Doitle> Basically I have a folder that is owned by root and I need to execute a file in it and I can't seem to change the permission
[10:07] <nooga> heh
[10:07] <nooga> the drive still 'scratches'
[10:08] <lazaruslupine> use sudo chmod
[10:08] <tvrg> Doitle: check chmod and chown
[10:08] <silver2->  is there a way to play comcast online games in Linux? I got a msg saying Internet Explorer was necessary.
[10:08] <jmbp> Hi... does anybody knows were I can get help with ltsp client boot problems?
[10:08] <nooga> how to check which process uses the disk ?
[10:08] <Doitle> !ubotu chown
[10:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:08] <testcees2> vnc use an own password. Not your normal ubuntu password. no username, just a password. To use it on the internet is a big risk.
[10:08] <nemanaddin> sorry for my bad english
[10:09] <testcees2> but for local use it is ok. in vncviewer you need the same password.
[10:09] <tvrg> nemanaddin: no worries, i'm not a native english speaker either
[10:09] <Kitsu1> what does "Rx invalid nwid:" in iwconfig mean? I'm running my wi-fi card as an AP, and that value increases when I try to connect to it
[10:09] <nemanaddin> tvrg: what can i do?
[10:10] <Kworth> When I close thunderbird and then want to start it again -> it allways say there is already an instance but i cant see it and I dont find it in ps aux neither ...
[10:10] <Puaff> the last gutsy dist-upgrade broke gterminal
[10:10] <tvrg> nemanaddin: i don't use vnc so i don't know, wrt to the english, practice :)
[10:11] <bjl_> salut tout le monde !
[10:11] <jamison> does anyone know why i can't use SUPER in key combinations with other keys?
[10:11] <nemanaddin> anyone can work by vpn in ubuntu
[10:11] <tvrg> bjl_: salut et bonjour
[10:11] <whileimhere> Anyone know how to test if the Framebuffer is working or to set it up?
[10:11] <Kworth> When I close thunderbird and then want to start it again -> it allways say there is already an instance but i cant see it and I dont find it in ps aux neither ... - how can I start the software again without needing to reeboot?
[10:13] <BernieMac> jamison, why can't you?
[10:13] <silver2-> many questions, few answers
[10:13] <BernieMac> jamison, if you change your keyboard shortcuts you can use it, I have done so
[10:15] <ex_> Can anyone help me join a windows network with ubuntu
[10:15] <nbkr> ex_, Set the workgroup in Samba correctly.
[10:15] <cchanc1> I have my lucent win modem installed it does dial but at the end of the dialing process and all the other stuff it cuts after the one minute mark and starts spiting out no carrier. Is there something im not soing right
[10:15] <ex_> nbkr I did
[10:16] <rlount> ex_, smbclient and do as nbkr says.
[10:16] <ex_> workgroup = my workgroup name in the smb.conf file
[10:16] <ex_> and i installed the smb client
[10:16] <nbkr> ex_, restarted Samba after you made the changes? What is (or is not) happening - please provide some more details.
[10:17] <ex_> yes I did restart the samba daemon
[10:17] <rlount> ex_, try smbclient -L <machine-name> -U username
[10:18] <Kitsu1> what does Rx invalid nwid mean?
[10:18] <ex_> It timed out rlount
[10:18] <BernieMac> Anyone know why my audio files suddenly quit working in the Listen player?
[10:18] <genii> received invalid netware id
[10:18] <stmiller> BernieMac do you get audio from other apps?
[10:18] <genii> ?
[10:18] <rlount> ex_, is the host you are connecting to accepting connections? (check any firewalls, etc...)
[10:18] <genii> or anything else
[10:19] <baconbits> Howdy guys
[10:19] <Didzi> howdy
[10:19] <ex_> I can view my windows workgroup in Nautilus Network viewer but when I double click my workgroup it just times out
[10:19] <stmiller> yee-haw
[10:19] <ex_> I can connect fine to the computer when I am in Windows
[10:19] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[10:19] <BernieMac> stmiller, the other music apps wouldn't recognize my files for some reason. Videos still play audio fine. All of my audio and video is on an external drive, formatted NTFS
[10:19] <Mouzz> I have a ralink rt2500 pcmcia card and I can't get it to work with wpa even after searching the internet... I'm using ndiswrapper and dmesg sais "wlan0: ethernet device undis driver rt2500" and "wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA..." At the end dmesg sais: "ra0: link not ready. Everywhere the wifi card is referenced as "ra0" yet in dmesg it's also referenced as wlan0. Can anyone give me an explanation or a pointer?
[10:20] <rlount> ex_, one sec. I am so old I forgot something.
[10:20] <ex_> haha okay
[10:20] <stmiller> BernieMac I would start vlc from the command line and try to open the audio files. It will output any errors in the terminal window when it tries to play
[10:20] <baconbits> So, I'm wondering if there is a way to do a full install of ubuntu starting with only Windows XP and only the ISO of ubuntu...I know about Wubi, but I don't think that really installs exactly correctly. Or am I just going to have to go buy a blank cd?
[10:20] <aaron_> anyone have a problem of their windows freezing when they run amule?
[10:21] <rlount> ex_, smbclient -L <machine-name> -W <workgroup> -U username
[10:21] <adamrn83> Hi
[10:21] <preaction_> baconbits, what do you mean by "doesn't install exactly correctly?" and yes, you'll need a blank cd if you don't want to use wubi
[10:21] <adamrn83> How do u get ubuntu to play dvds
[10:21] <nemanaddin> i cant use vpn connection in ubuntu??
[10:22] <stmiller> adamrn83: add http://medibuntu.org/
[10:22] <ex_> rlount , save thing timed out
[10:22] <baconbits> Well it's not a full traditional install on a separate partition, right?
[10:22] <aaron_> adam did you download gxine?
[10:22] <stmiller> adamrn83 and install libdvdcss2
[10:22] <adamrn83> yes
[10:22] <rlount> ex, you can ping said host?
[10:22] <baconbits> Basically I don't want to run into any compatibility issues simply because I installed via wubi
[10:22] <adamrn83> it doesnt seem to work tho
[10:22] <seqizz> i've a problem with my dvd-writer.. DMA :) how can i enable it?
[10:22] <stmiller> adamrn83: try VLC to play the DVD
[10:23] <Johto> seqizz: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/yourdevice
[10:23] <zewb> DCC SEND LINUXUSERSHAVENECKBEARDS 0 0 0
[10:23] <ex_> rlount do i need to include <> in the network name and machine name
[10:23] <zewb> DCC SEND LINUXUSERSHAVENECKBEARDS 0 0 0
[10:23] <BernieMac> stmiller, working on that now, I will let you know if I get any errors once it is running
[10:23] <seqizz> Johto: i've tried it
[10:23] <rlount> ex, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
[10:23] <Johto> seqizz: oh
[10:23] <rlount> ex_, I'm not trying to be a butt. Thats some rockin doc.
[10:23] <pete83> seqizz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:24] <Balsus-Legdre> Hello dudes I have some tutorials that are *.SWF and totem player can not play them. I can not seem to find a shockwave/flash player for Ubuntu.
[10:24] <seqizz> pete83: i've read it :(
[10:24] <preaction_> !flash | Balsus-Legdre
[10:24] <ubotu> Balsus-Legdre: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:24] <nbkr> zweb, maybe we have Neck-beards, but at least we know how to use IRC.
[10:24] <seqizz> pete83: no more troubleshoot
[10:24] <seqizz> in here
[10:24] <stmiller> Balsus-Legdre: vlc can play flash video files
[10:24] <Balsus-Legdre> yeah vlc thats the one.
[10:24] <baconbits> Who is getting banned?
[10:24] <magnetron> !codec | Balsus-Legdre
[10:24] <ubotu> Balsus-Legdre: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:24] <Balsus-Legdre> Forgot about that one cheers buddy
[10:25] <magnetron> Balsus-Legdre: just install it with "add/remove" applications
[10:25] <seqizz> it says me BLKFLSBUF failed: Function not implemented
[10:25] <baconbits> So, I'm wondering if there is a way to do a full install of ubuntu starting with only Windows XP and only the ISO of ubuntu...I know about Wubi, but I don't think that really installs exactly correctly. Or am I just going to have to go buy a blank cd? I don't want to have compatibility issues stemming from the fact that I installed with Wubi.
[10:25] <eljo__> hey there
[10:26] <lns> hey guys, is there any way to remove a package that depends on 'ubuntu-desktop' (for instance, GAIM) without actually removing ubuntu-desktop?
[10:26] <BernieMac> stmiller, what do I enter to start vlc? I have found its location, but I don't know what to enter to run it
[10:27] <stmiller> BernieMac: just type: vlc  in a terminal to start it. Then File>Open to open your file to play
[10:28] <Balsus-Legdre> That ubotu bot is so cool.
[10:28] <BernieMac> stmiller, lol, wow, that was way easier than I was making it...
[10:28] <stmiller> BernieMac :)
[10:29] <jamison> where do i save my .bash_profile when using Terminal?
[10:29] <ice109> hey anyone use latex in here?
[10:29] <Kaitlyn2004> I deleted a file by mistake
[10:29] <Kaitlyn2004> how do I get it back?
[10:29] <erUSUL> ice109: from time to time
[10:30] <bruenig> jamison, ~
[10:30] <boojah> something wierd just happened after i installed the app Kopete... kopete didnt have any fonts.. so i thought it just was something about the app.. but when i open a terminal it too doesnt have any fonts.. does anyone know if the terminal uses a special font?
[10:30] <stmiller> Kaitlyn2004: I don't think you can, unless you put it in the trash
[10:30] <ice109> erUSUL whats good latex suite for a n00b
[10:30] <sainzeo> i have been trying to get openoffice documents to save and create a thumbnail following these directions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76566&page=3, but it still won't work - i believe it has something to deal with python, any help?
[10:30] <Kaitlyn2004> staticVoid: great. :(
[10:30] <erUSUL> ice109: i use lyx as front end
[10:30] <Balsus-Legdre> What about *.mht (MHTML) files they come out in fire fox all wrong with tags. Not like IE
[10:30] <jamison> bruenig: any idea why when i save it in ~/.bash_profile, close Terminal, and open it again... that it doesn't seem to have any effect?
[10:30] <ice109> erUSUL oh
[10:31] <BernieMac> stmiller, hmm....VLC seems to be playing them fine....
[10:31] <baconbits> So I'll take that as a no...I'll just go buy some CDs. The iso fits on one CD right?
[10:31] <strabes> is it possible to change rhythmbox ratings using the command line?
[10:31] <ice109> i have that and it doesn't do what i want it to
[10:31] <jamison> bruenig: what i put in there is: alias ll='ls -l';
[10:31] <bruenig> jamison, the ; is not necessary
[10:31] <rlount> jamison, to make sure my .bashrc really is read, I add this to the end; printf "%s\n" ".bashrc has run"
[10:31] <erUSUL> jamison: bash_profile is only read on login shells (only once in a typical session)
[10:32] <bruenig> jamison, I put all that stuff in .bashrc and have .bash_profile source .bashrc, but it should work your way too
[10:32] <baconbits> And then when I last installed it, I had some wireless troubles (I had to install the windows driver via ndiswrapper). Now I'm on an ethernet connection...will I need to repeat this driver process, or is the ethernet more likely to be natively supported?
[10:32] <strabes> i checked rhythmbox --help-all but to no avail
[10:32] <strabes> baconbits: yes
[10:32] <jamison> ohh... when is .bashrc called?
[10:33] <neverblue> jamison, when you start a terminal
[10:33] <erUSUL> jamison: when a new shell starts
[10:33] <bruenig> jamison, not sure, it would seem that .bash_profile is the only thing called and that .bash_profile calls .bashrc, if I weren't lazy I would test it to see
[10:33] <jamison> ok that's what i needed then. thanks :)
[10:33] <Balsus-Legdre> VLC did not play the *.swf files : (
[10:33] <baconbits> strabes_ Is that yes to both my questions?
[10:34] <buttercups> !burning
[10:34] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:34] <picodon> swf is flash, so i wouldnt expect a movie player to play it
[10:34] <neverblue> vlc plays CD images :)
[10:34] <neverblue> so dont be too suprised if it could play Flash as well :)
[10:34] <picodon> with movie content in them
[10:34] <neverblue> obvious
[10:34] <dewboy3d> greetings
[10:34] <baconbits> When I last installed it, I had some wireless troubles (I had to install the windows driver via ndiswrapper). Now I'm on an ethernet connection...will I need to repeat this driver process, or is the ethernet more likely to be natively supported?
[10:35] <hacknslash> baconbits: what is the make of the network card ?
[10:36] <antzen_> I've received a list of bad blocks from "badblocks". How do I check what file(s) one particular bad block belongs to?
[10:36] <buttercups> !aiglx
[10:36] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:37] <Kaitlyn2004> when I jsut hit delete on a file, it disappears.. if I SHIFT+DELETE then it asks if I want to perm. delete it... so if I JUST delete, it should be SOMEWHERE?
[10:37] <[nrx] > Kaitlyn2004: in the trash?
[10:37] <NessieLiberaton> Kaitlyn2004: .Trash
[10:37] <buttercups> !xgl
[10:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:37] <NessieLiberaton> !msgthebot | buttercups
[10:37] <ubotu> buttercups: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:38] <baconbits> the wireless is listed in device manager as "Intel Wireless Wifilink 4695AGN". The ethernet is under "Broadcom 440x 10/100 integrated controller"
[10:38] <NessieLiberaton> Kaitlyn2004: by default there will be a trash applet on the bottom panel in gnome
[10:38] <hacknslash> Kaitlyn2004: in the lower right hand corner of your task bar can u see a wastebasket ?
[10:38] <Kaitlyn2004> umm
[10:38] <buttercups> oh boogers fine
[10:38] <Kaitlyn2004> ohh
[10:38] <Kaitlyn2004> there it is!
[10:38] <bruenig> 4695 is ndiswrapper I am pretty sure because I intentionally avoided that card when I bought my laptop because it was not native
[10:38] <Kaitlyn2004> haha
[10:38] <Kaitlyn2004> yayyyy
[10:38] <[nrx] > :)
[10:39] <bruenig> got 3945 instead
[10:39] <baconbits> bruenig Yes I know, I'm installing Ubuntu again now though, and I won't be using the wifi, I'm gonna use the ethernet (I'm in a dorm now).
[10:39] <hacknslash> baconbits: the easyest way of testing is try a live gutsy cd
[10:39] <bruenig> baconbits, mk
[10:39] <Yodude> hey can please somebody help me in adding the french language to openoffice, i mean how to for example set the language for a document and have writing aids in french, and also how can i add a french dictionary server to the dictionary aplication already included in ubuntu ?
[10:40] <knarsenpiep> is there anyone that uses a usbaudio card with ubuntu
[10:40] <baconbits> hacknslash So that would require me to buy more than once CD...good to know. Ok guys I'm off to grab some CDs from the c-store, I'll be back later if I have any issues during installation.
[10:40] <antzen_> I've received a list of bad blocks from "badblocks". How do I check what file(s) one particular bad block belongs to?
[10:40] <ompaul> Yodude, click on system administration synaptic and search for dict
[10:40] <hacknslash> baconbits: i put it on a dvd
[10:40] <Balsus-Legdre> What about *.mht (MHTML) files they come out in fire fox all wrong with tags. Not like IE
[10:41] <Yodude> ompaul: k
[10:41] <ompaul> antzen_, you get a new drive -- back up your data
[10:41] <mox> #ubuntu.de
[10:41] <NessieLiberaton> antzen_: have you read the man page for badblocks?
[10:41] <mox> #ubuntu-de
[10:41] <[nrx] > mox try /join #ubuntu-de
[10:41] <nightstalker> Reading a manpage can be a livetask
[10:41] <Samui> not what i wanted it to do. >.<
[10:42] <NessieLiberaton> Samui: do not give us now playing in this channel
[10:42] <antzen_> NessieLiberaton, aye but perhaps I should read it one more time? ;-)
[10:42] <pvl1> why cant i change the permissions on my iPod
[10:42] <mox> nry thx
[10:42] <NessieLiberaton> antzen_: no idea - it was my best suggestion ;)
[10:42] <Heady>  hi there, can sobody give me tip for a name of a user friendly ftp server with gui ??
[10:42] <Samui> Nessie: I had no intention of doing so.
[10:42] <pvl1> heady: gproftp
[10:42] <Yodude> ompaul: do i install the dict package ?
[10:42] <knarsenpiep> no one using m-audio card
[10:42] <NessieLiberaton> Samui: script gone wrong?
[10:42] <nightstalker> Heady do you search after a name
[10:42] <Samui> Nessie: YEs.
[10:42] <ompaul> Yodude, I would but that is me and ispell
[10:42] <adamrn83> ho
[10:42] <adamrn83> hi even
[10:43] <[nrx] > hello
[10:43] <Heady> nightstalker, i searched for "ftp server"
[10:43] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[10:43] <[nrx] > Heady: try gproftpd
[10:43] <pvl1> Does anyone know why i can't change the permissions on my iPod
[10:43] <adamrn83> whats the command to list the processes that are running in a terminal window i forgot
[10:43] <antzen_> NessieLiberaton, well, it doesn't say anything about listing the inodes etc. so I was thinking about some other program.. :)
[10:43] <pvl1> Heady: use gproftp
[10:43] <NessieLiberaton> !repeat | pvl1:
[10:43] <ubotu> pvl1:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:43] <NemesisD> how do i run commands as root during startup automatically?
[10:43] <hacknslash> adamrn83: ps -ef
[10:43] <kevin__> heady, you could try proftpd and administer via webmin. that's what i've used
[10:43] <ed1t> is there any package which installs LAMP?
[10:44] <nightstalker> Heady Sorry I can't help you. I have no skills like that
[10:44] <nbkr> NemesisD, Write an init-script for complex commands or use /etc/rc.local for more simple ones.
[10:44] <nightstalker> My English iss bad I have to practise I know
[10:44] <Yodude> ompaul: isn't there a way to add a french server to the default dictionary of ubuntu ? the gnome dictionary i mean
[10:44] <magnetron> !lamp | ed1t
[10:44] <alex-weej> help!
[10:44] <ubotu> ed1t: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:44] <alex-weej> oops
[10:44] <NemesisD> nbkr, no sudo in rc.local? just the name of the command?
[10:44] <Samui> Apparently, I have to edit the configuration file for the script to exclude channels, even though I supposedly disabled the darn thing.
[10:45] <negnin> pvl1: how's your ipod mounted?
[10:45] <Heady> thanks
[10:45] <nbkr> NemesisD, Yeah, no sudo, just the command - but the full path to the executable.
[10:45] <pvl1> negnin its auto-mounted for me
[10:45] <ompaul> Yodude, do this search for fr and see what you want to install
[10:45] <Mouzz> Any tips on what pcm cia wifi card I should buy? (what chipset is well supported?)
[10:46] <negnin> pvl1: check with 'mount' on the commandline
[10:46] <NessieLiberaton> Mouzz: intel ideally
[10:46] <magnetron> Mouzz: intel or atheros chipsets
[10:46] <magnetron> !wireless | Mouzz
[10:46] <ubotu> Mouzz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:46] <Mouzz> (and also: Anyone wanna buy my rt2500 wifi card? :)
[10:46] <NemesisD> nbkr, so nothing in front of the path? just say /usr/bin/mpd ?
[10:46] <magnetron> no ads, Mouzz
[10:46] <Yodude> ompaul: k, and do you know how to set language for a openoffice document ? i mean to make it correct the french way and the french words
[10:46] <adamrn83> how come its such a pain to get dvds to play in ubuntu
[10:46] <NessieLiberaton> Mouzz: this isnt exactly a marketplace
[10:46] <rlount> Mouzz, I like Senao cards.
[10:46] <Samui> problem solved. other xchat script works better.
[10:47] <[nrx] > adamrn83: is it?
[10:47] <Mouzz> magnetron: it was a joke, not a serious offer...
[10:47] <etale> how does one get the gnome dock or cairo dock? Is there a repository for synaptic that will install it?
[10:47] <ompaul> Yodude, tools options langauges
[10:47] <pvl1> negnin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37729/
[10:47] <bruenig> gnome has a dock?
[10:47] <NessieLiberaton> Mouzz: joking is banned (joke)
[10:47] <electricista617> Hello. I have XP and want to install ubuntu. How can I begin to do this. More specifically, how can I move my files from XP to ubuntu?
[10:47] <pete83> adamrn83: because, you will appreciate it more if you have to work for it
[10:47] <adamrn83> it would appear so
[10:47] <Balsus-Legdre> How do I view *.mht (MHTML) files they come out in fire fox all wrong with tags. Not like IE
[10:47] <ompaul> Yodude, make sure you have installed all -fr versions before you go looking
[10:47] <adamrn83> cheers pete
[10:47] <nbkr> NemesisD, for daemons I would recommend an init-script. But yes /usr/bin/mpd should work - as long as mpd really daemonises itself.
[10:47] <magnetron> adamrn83: we don't ask questions like "why", but we can perhaps help you get it working
[10:48] <NessieLiberaton> electricista617: you'll still be able to access your xp files from inside ubuntu - just not the other way around
[10:48] <NemesisD> nbkr, it does, and for some reason the init script just hasn't worked for me but the other way does
[10:48] <BernieMac> !forum | pete83
[10:48] <ubotu> pete83: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:48] <Yodude> ompaul: now not the DEFAULT language for documents, but the language for a document i already created
[10:48] <adamrn83> what do u suggest then magnetron
[10:48] <BernieMac> pete83, a lot of the information you need can be found there
[10:48] <Grungebunny> electricista617 if you plan to make your computer dual boot both xp and ubuntu  you can set it up to browse your xp file system.
[10:48] <hacknslash> electricista617: you can set up ubuntu to dual boot with xp and share files
[10:48] <EliteInsane> tanath, hey
[10:48] <pete83> BernieMac: what are you talking about?
[10:48] <magnetron> !dvd | adamrn83
[10:48] <ubotu> adamrn83: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:48] <tanath> EliteInsane, hey
[10:48] <ompaul> Yodude, no idea
[10:48] <BernieMac> pete83, in the forum
[10:48] <EliteInsane> you logged in .05 seconds after me
[10:48] <kevin__> adamrn83 - dvd playback using default totem is pretty naff. try using gxine, vlc, or xine with the xine-ui instead. you might want to install the libdvdcss for encrypted disk playback if it's not illegal in your locality
[10:48] <pete83> BernieMac: but I don't need any help with anything...
[10:49] <Yodude> hey can please somebody help me in adding the french language to openoffice, i mean how to for example set the language for a document and have writing aids in french, and also how can i add a french dictionary server to the dictionary aplication already included in ubuntu ?
[10:49] <negnin> pvl1: that looks ok.. what are you trying to do exactly?
[10:49] <electricista617> Thanks. How about using linksys wireless hardware?
[10:49] <tanath> EliteInsane, and you caught me 0.5 seconds before i quit the channel :P
[10:49] <BernieMac> pete83, did you not just ask for a walk through on how to install ubuntu?
[10:49] <BernieMac> more or less
[10:49] <magnetron> adamrn83: in synaptic, make sure that libdvdcss2 is installed in Synaptic
[10:49] <NessieLiberaton> Yodude: surely the openoffice website help will be more help for you than us
[10:49] <dwxreaper> err, i messed with my .bashrc in my home directory (i made a copy called .old)
[10:49] <pete83> BernieMac: Ubuntu works perfect.. no I didn't ask for help
[10:49] <dwxreaper> NOW everythign is messed !
[10:49] <dwxreaper> anyone please help ?
[10:49] <adamrn83> ill give it a whirl
[10:49] <EliteInsane> tanath, i reinstalled ubuntu and got most everything set up again, now ubuntu just keep freezing every 10 minutes or so
[10:49] <EliteInsane> kinda pissing me off
[10:49] <adamrn83> may be back soon
[10:49] <EliteInsane> hopefully it stops
[10:49] <tanath> hm
[10:50] <dwxreaper> ada?
[10:50] <tanath> EliteInsane, total lockup?
[10:50] <EliteInsane> yea
[10:50] <BernieMac> ahhh pete83 my apologies, read the wrong name with the line. very sorry
[10:50] <pvl1> negnin: well im trying to setup a media stream server with my ipod. ive used gnump3d, but ive found that ampache looks nice and is more user friendly. while trying to let it go into my ipod, it kept giving me errors. i asked the creator of ampache on a diff irc and he told me that its a problem with my permissions
[10:50] <dwxreaper> I messed with .bashrc, first I made a backup called .old, now everything is messed, and .old is not there???
[10:50] <rlount> dwxreaper, if .old is indeed a good copy of the .bashrc then; mv .old .bashrc
[10:50] <tanath> EliteInsane, know about ALT+sysrq+REISUB?
[10:50] <knarsenpiep> can anyone tell me howto let ubuntu search on the usb port for extern soundcard ?
[10:50] <EliteInsane> no
[10:50] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: you got rid of you .bashrc, but have a backup called .old? then just move/copy .old to .bashrc
[10:50] <pvl1> negnin: and indeed i cant change my ipod's permissions
[10:50] <dwxreaper> rlount: .old is gone
[10:50] <Grungebunny> electricista617 the next step should be for you to download the Ubuntu 7,04 ISO then burn it to CD so you can boot from it.. play around in the Live CD for a while.
[10:50] <NessieLiberaton> !repeat | dwxreaper
[10:50] <ubotu> dwxreaper: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:50] <dwxreaper> but I never deleted it
[10:50] <rlount> dwxreaper, one sec, I'll paste mine ;)
[10:50] <magnetron> !enter
[10:50] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:51] <Mar_vet> ciao
[10:51] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: are you sure you can see hidden files atm ?
[10:51] <rlount> in a pastebin of course
[10:51] <dwxreaper> nessie: yeah -a, let me try find / -name '.old'
[10:51] <EliteInsane> tanath, what does that do and how do i do it
[10:51] <Yodude> NessieLiberaton: and you know the default dictionary in ubuntu right ( Applications-accessories-Dictionary ) how can i add french to it ? cuz i can't chooose french as the dictionary in the preferences
[10:51] <tanath> EliteInsane, when linux locks up, first thing to try is CTRL+Backspace, to kill X. if that doesn't work, try ALT+Sysrq (print screen button)+<these buttons in this order: REISUB>, pausing between
[10:52] <[nrx] > tanath: what does the latter do there?
[10:52] <EliteInsane> hmm
[10:52] <dwxreaper> i'm just pissed because this is a server and it messed up the daemons, and all i wante to change was make my prompt colored
[10:52] <NessieLiberaton> Yodude: well there's a key in gconf-editor under GNOME/Spell, but other than that - no idea
[10:52] <dwxreaper> lol
[10:52] <EliteInsane> tanath, ill try that next time
[10:52] <pete83> Does anybody know if Ubuntu 7.10 will have shipit CD's?
[10:52] <negnin> pvl1: you're trying with chmod?
[10:52] <NessieLiberaton> pete83: undoubtedly
[10:52] <Warsocket> Guess so
[10:52] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: there should be a system default file somewhere
[10:53] <pvl1> negnin um no, i dont really understand chmod to begin with. there a guide?
[10:53] <tanath> EliteInsane, [nrx] , when you hold ALT+Sysrq, and type REISUB, it goes right to the kernel, telling it to try to nicely kill processes, synch data to the hard drive, unmount, and finally reboot
[10:53] <Grungebunny> electrista617 Ubuntu should recognize your internet connection if not you may have to tinker with it a bit.
[10:53] <negnin> pvl1: man chmod
[10:53] <DShepherd> pvl1, man chmod
[10:53] <rlount> dwxreaper, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37732/  pretty stock .bashrc
[10:53] <pvl1> k ty
[10:53] <dwxreaper> rlount: thanks
[10:53] <Warsocket> and thats so for evry command you can think of
[10:53] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[10:53] <rlount> dwxreaper, np.
[10:53] <darklordveynom> how can i set my terminal colors from C++ source code?
[10:53] <[nrx] > tanath: thanks :) - are those letters individual commands? - is there a list of them somewhere?
[10:53] <tanath> EliteInsane, [nrx]  pause between keystrokes. see here: http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[10:54] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, good point!
[10:54] <negnin> pvl1: but if you tell me want needs to be done I can guide you through it :)
[10:54] <NessieLiberaton> rlount: well - that doesnt have the aliases enabled
[10:54] <[nrx] > tanath: learn something new everyday! :)
[10:54] <tanath> [nrx] , yeah. REI- i forget, but S is synch data to HDs, U is unmount, and B, is reboot
[10:54] <pete83> darklordveynom: couldn't you use a SYSTEM command, and call the "set_color" program
[10:54] <Tommck> I am currently running Dapper Drake.  I want to get to a higher kernel version.  Is the simplest thing upgrading the whole OS?  Or is there an easy way to get a > 2.6.16 kernel?
[10:54] <darklordveynom> i know i can do system(" whatever"
[10:54] <pvl1> negnin: o i just need for "others" to have read access
[10:55] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, right.
[10:55] <tanath> [nrx] , should always work unless the kernel is frozen
[10:55] <darklordveynom> but i need to know the command that actually changes the color
[10:55] <Warsocket> Question, why does ubuntu put sources in non standard directory's
[10:55] <tanath> [nrx] , it's the recommended way to reboot on a lockup
[10:55] <Warsocket> and does not link em
[10:55] <negnin> pvl1: on a certain directory?
[10:55] <[nrx] > tanath: in which case ones has more problems than a frozen box eh
[10:55] <EliteInsane> tanath, thanks man i was kinda getting worries about hitting the reset button so many tiems
[10:55] <pete83> darklordveynom: so like this? ...  http://linux.die.net/man/1/set_color
[10:55] <Warsocket> like kerner sources
[10:55] <Warsocket> or the gtk.h file
[10:55] <riaal> keep forgetting the name of the terminal apciataion that list aplications and cpu usage, anyone?
[10:55] <NessieLiberaton> rlount: i have a large number of things in aliases - everything upto show the OSD in amarok ;)
[10:55] <darklordveynom> yep
[10:55] <magnetron> Warsocket: we don't answer "why" questions, we only provide support
[10:55] <NessieLiberaton> riaal: top
[10:55] <Warsocket> all tuts expect gtk.h to be on /usr/include/gtk/
[10:55] <darklordveynom> thanks for the help
[10:56] <riaal> NessieLiberaton: cheers
[10:56] <webjames> HI!
[10:56] <pvl1> negnin: well to be detailed i need /media/PAVEL'S IPO/ipod_control/music to be readable
[10:56] <dwxreaper> i copied the skel/.bashrc to /home/myusername, still messed up, the services are not running
[10:56] <magnetron> hi webjames
[10:56] <Ignite> Warsocket, the tutorial you're reading is probably _old_. Most packages not use pkg-config.
[10:56] <Tommck> I want to upgrade Dapper... should I just go to Edgy?  Feisty?  or what?
[10:56] <Ignite> now*
[10:56] <negnin> pvl1: can you do a 'ls -l' on that dir for me
[10:56] <Tommck> sorry for the bold
[10:56] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: you need to resource it: type . ~/.bashrc in bash
[10:56] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, thats cool!
[10:56] <nbkr> Tommck, Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty
[10:57] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: or load a new terminal to do it automatically in new terminals
[10:57] <tanath> EliteInsane, well, if you reboot improperly linux will detect that and run a fsck to fix any errors
[10:57] <pete83> Tommck: If you wait a month, then go for gutsy
[10:57] <Tommck> nbkr - and I can just change my sources.list and do that?
[10:57] <electricista617> Are there any free iso programs out there?
[10:57] <dwxreaper> nessie: i rebooted, let me see what happens
[10:57] <riaal> System is really slow and top shows: 18815 root      25   0  155m 119m  24m R 92.9  5.9 283:04.17 Xorg what do you ppl thing is the problem?
[10:57] <kevin__> tommck - hi, you'll need to upgrade in order of release, ie dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[10:57] <Tommck> this usually works quite well?
[10:57] <hawk> Warsocket: If you use gtk-config, it doesn't really matter where gtk.h is, right?
[10:57] <Tommck> I'm tentative.  I have never done this kind of upgrade
[10:57] <nbkr> Tommck, yes, but run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:57] <DShepherd> electricista617, depends on what you want to do with the iso...
[10:57] <rockets> If I set a password on root, I can reverse that by doing passwd -l root right
[10:57] <tanath> electricista617, pretty much everything on linux is free. yes
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, yes
[10:58] <Tommck> nbkr - ok... I found a page with instructions... giving it a shot...
[10:58] <magnetron> Tommck: i would recommend you to do a fresh install of gutsy
[10:58] <electricista617> I just want to burn the ubuntu program onto a cd
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, thanks. cuz some things just require having a root password.  ..
[10:58] <pvl1> negnin i cant cd to that directory
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, I know
[10:58] <Tommck> magnetron - why is that?
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, e.g. changing certain vmware server settings
[10:58] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: you can go dapper->edgy->feisty, or you can download the iso for a cd of feisty/(gutsy soon) and install from scratch
[10:58] <velko> riaal, some crappy binary drivers? nvida? ati?
[10:58] <DShepherd> electricista617, well there are tons of those stuff....
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, they get mad when you say that though so keep quiet
[10:58] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: otherwise it's about 2 days of updates or more :P
[10:58] <EliteInsane> tanath, reinstalling actually worked out for me, got the latest opera installed and fixed a few other screwups i had, now just need to figure out how to get firefox from being my default browser
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, yeah yeah
[10:58] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah... what I really need is a newer kernel than Dapper offers
[10:58] <negnin> pvl1: 'sudo chmod +r /media/PAVEL'S IPO/ipod_control/music' should do the trick
[10:58] <riaal> velko: let me check, thanks
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, so don't run dapper.  ..
[10:59] <Tommck> rockets - yeah.. but I'm running dapper now...
[10:59] <tanath> EliteInsane, Sys > Prefs > Preferred apps
[10:59] <electricista617> So how do I find those programs?
[10:59] <kevin__> tommck - yes, it can sometimes go wrong... depends whether you've installed lots of stuff from non-standard repositories, eg, easy-ubuntu or automatix. i have had a couple of whoopsies in the past, so make sure you backup.
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, so upgrade
[10:59] <magnetron> Tommck: upgrading from dapper to edgy sometimes causes problems. either you could spend time fixing those, or just do a clean install with everything working in gutsy
[10:59] <Tommck> thanks rockets... so insightful
[10:59] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: it would be quicker to download the iso, burn it and install feisty/gutsy from scratch than it would be to go through them all
[10:59] <dwxreaper> nessie: still messed up
[10:59] <pvl1> negnin: a">" appears and it doesnt move
[10:59] <DShepherd> electricista617, you running ubuntu now?
[10:59] <electricista617> no.
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, obvious maybe . . . but I still fail to see the problem.
[10:59] <dwxreaper> why does changing that file mess up everything, asdf
[10:59] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[10:59] <negnin> pvl1: control c
[10:59] <Warsocket> lol i cant PM here
[11:00] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - and Gutsy's been pretty stable?  I've been a bit out of the loop
[11:00] <negnin> pvl1: don't type the 's
[11:00] <DShepherd> electricista617, oh... hmmm...
[11:00] <bruenig> !register | Warsocket
[11:00] <ubotu> Warsocket: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:00] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: well unless you're brave - you might wanna wait a month before gutsy - i run it and it's fine... but hey
[11:00] <pvl1> negin oo ok ill try
[11:00] <EliteInsane> tanath, you know everything, i love you
[11:00] <Warsocket> k tnx
[11:00] <Tommck> ok.
[11:00] <solar_ant> hi
[11:00] <solar_ant> my disk buffer read is very slow
[11:00] <dwxreaper> nessie: i do type ntop and it is not there, that is the daemon the server runs.  it was fine, could be rebooted
[11:00] <pvl1> negnin without the "'s" samething happens
[11:00] <solar_ant> can someone help
[11:00] <solar_ant> its a pata drive
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, lol :D
[11:01] <dwxreaper> all that was done is i go to .bashrc, and change a bunch of stuff, and i copied it to .old first, but .old is not there..
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, i try... though i fail :P
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: is ntop an alias?
[11:01] <PF|WSTP> Does anyone know of a command/program that shows failed login attempts (in addition to successful) and what time the login attempts happened?
[11:01] <Warsocket>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:01] <electricista617> shepherd, what should I do?
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: if you know what you're doing, and it's not a critical computer - it might be fun ;)
[11:01] <EliteInsane> tanath, been damn well with all my problems
[11:01] <dwxreaper> nessie: no, it was in usr/sbin before
[11:01] <EliteInsane> lol
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, comes from experience. means i had 'em first :P
[11:01] <Tommck> one more question... I just did a dist-upgrade on Dapper and got a slightly newer kernel.  Is there a way to downgrade that for the time being?  I'm going on vacation and I want my mythTV stuff to continue to work
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: does typing /usr/sbin/ntop work ?
[11:02] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah... it won't be a big deal.. I just don't have the time now
[11:02] <negnin> pvl1: ah yes the PAVEL'S is messing it up
[11:02] <nooga> how to create a trash icon on gnome desktop?
[11:02] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: you should be able to choose the older kernel at grub on boot
[11:02] <bruenig> !icons
[11:02] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:02] <negnin> pvl1: try this: sudo chmod +r /media/PAVEL\'S IPO/ipod_control/music
[11:02] <pvl1> negnin: figured
[11:02] <dwxreaper> nessie: no but it was there, now it's not
[11:02] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - it's in a wiring closet... is there a way to do it outside of the grub menu?
[11:02] <tannerld> I got a Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 error when starting nautilus or terminal
[11:02] <pvl1> negnin:within the error message from my media server thats the directory it gave me instead of the usual
[11:02] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: then that's not bash's fault
[11:02] <hacknslash> nooga: there is a wastebin icon in the lower right hand corner
[11:03] <nooga> hacknslash: yea, but i removed that panel
[11:03] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: the um, dont you see the grub menu when you boot ?
[11:03] <pvl1> negnin: but now it says that theres no directory like that
[11:03] <EliteInsane> tanath, someday i hope to be able to solve these problems real easy, i can solve really any windows problem through experience
[11:03] <karriboi> server irc.saunalahti.fi
[11:03] <dwxreaper> that's the only thing I changed, and this thing has been rebooted 10 times today
[11:03] <dwxreaper> .bashrc is the _only thing I changed
[11:03] <karriboi> whoops
[11:03] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - I would have to shove myself into a closet to see it... and I would have to drag a monitor in there too
[11:03] <PF|WSTP> Does anyone know of a command/program that shows failed login attempts (in addition to successful) and what time the login attempts happened?
[11:03] <tanath> EliteInsane, same. just takes a bit of time. once you learn certain things, it becomes pretty easy
[11:03] <electricista617> Where can I download a free ISO program so I can burn an ubuntu cd?
[11:04] <bruenig> !repeat | PF|WSTP
[11:04] <ubotu> PF|WSTP: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:04] <negnin> pvl1: do sudo bash and check if that dir is there
[11:04] <PF|WSTP> bruenig, only one repeat ;)
[11:04] <rafaelscj> hello all
[11:04] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: it's a server? you could edit the grub menu - but that's something i'd avoid doing unless you're sure
[11:04] <nbkr> PF|WSTP, thats all listed in /var/log/messages
[11:04] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah.. it's a MythTV backend
[11:04] <PF|WSTP> ok thanks
[11:04] <tanath> electricista617, you can do it from nautilus, or use k3b, or brasero, etc. there's plenty
[11:05] <electricista617> which do you recommend for xp?
[11:05] <tanath> electricista617, all are in the repositories
[11:05] <pvl1> negnin: well at first it didnt work but i put quotes around the directory without the PAVEL\'S and it came through, i think
[11:05] <NessieLiberaton> tanath: he wants to burn the iso in windows
[11:05] <tanath> NessieLiberaton, oops
[11:05] <tanath> why?
[11:06] <mrshfr> can anyone tell me how to triple boot vista/xp/ubuntu?
[11:06] <nooga> eh
[11:06] <NessieLiberaton> tanath: because he wants to burn ubuntu iso so he can install it :P
[11:06] <nooga> eh
[11:06] <ed1t> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[11:06] <ed1t> when i type mysql
[11:06] <nooga> dunno what to do with that trashbin
[11:06] <DShepherd> electricista617, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:06] <NessieLiberaton> nooga: did you need those "eh"s ?
[11:06] <negnin> pvl1: ok.. so you're done?
[11:06] <tanath> NessieLiberaton, that's a good reason :) :P
[11:07] <C> hello, I have problems with Real Player. Can Somebody help me?
[11:07] <pvl1> negnin: uhm no, the permissions havent changed
[11:07] <NessieLiberaton> C: tell us the problem then
[11:07] <nooga> NessieLiberaton: not really, but my problem is different
[11:07] <Al-Khouli> hi all , i want to ask if there's a way to connect remotely to win XP from ubuntu ??!
[11:08] <NessieLiberaton> Al-Khouli: rdesktop
[11:08] <Warsocket> Samba
[11:08] <NessieLiberaton> Warsocket: samba is for files, rdesktop logs you in
[11:08] <Al-Khouli> NessieLiberaton: thanx
[11:08] <negnin> pvl1: can you do the ls -l for this dir as root (you're root in the terminal you got after doing 'sudo bash')
[11:08] <tanath> electricista617, http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/dvdcdburning.shtml
[11:08] <MindfulGeek> Al-Khouli: you can install tightvnc on xp and use xvncviewer to see the logged in desktop on XP
[11:08] <electricista617> Thanks. I'll get on it.
[11:09] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: why are you advising him to du sudo bash ?
[11:09] <qazwsx> how do I have a firewall rule that allows access to security.ubuntu.com but not other plaaces?
[11:09] <C> There are 2 problems: 1) I try execute the Real Player by Applications --> Sound & Video -> Real Player   This message appears: "Could not launch menu item. Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory).
[11:10] <EliteInsane> tanath, one more thing, ubuntu keeps making chimes how do i turn them off
[11:10] <NessieLiberaton> C: have you recently upgraded ?
[11:10] <DShepherd> electricista617, your welcome
[11:10] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: when you login ?
[11:10] <EliteInsane> after that
[11:10] <qazwsx> i.e. I want to be able to do apt-get updates and apt-gets, but I don't want other network connection allowed (I want to allow access to security.ubuntu.com but not other places)
[11:10] <EliteInsane> like just sitting around
[11:10] <tanath> EliteInsane, depends what's chiming :P
[11:10] <C> no...
[11:10] <EliteInsane> i look and nothing is seeking attention
[11:10] <pvl1> negnin on the ".../ipod_control/music/" dir?
[11:10] <EliteInsane> it just randomly chimes D:
[11:11] <tanath> EliteInsane, Sys > Prefs > Sounds > sounds tab
[11:11] <DShepherd> could be your chat client or something
[11:11] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: trying to make it easy for him
[11:11] <EliteInsane> thanks
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: it's better not to
[11:11] <hoster> http://castlehost.0lx.net/
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: try searching for iptables
[11:11] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: I know, but i don't want to talk him through the detour
[11:11] <EliteInsane> hopefully that will do it
[11:11] <EliteInsane> thanks once again
[11:11] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I am using iptables, I'm not sure which rules; security.ubuntu.com's ip changes, no?
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> !firewall | qazwsx
[11:11] <ubotu> qazwsx: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:12] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: i have no idea - but you could try reading the man page for iptables ?
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: yes, I know how to use iptables
[11:12] <negnin> pvl1: try sudo chmod 644 /your/dir/
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I don't know _what_ to filter for in this case
[11:12] <C> on the installation process, some symbolic links creation failed......
[11:12] <pvl1> negnin: well ive managed to cd into the /music/ directory
[11:12] <Warsocket> there are drivers for NTFS writing now, if i compile them into the kernel then how can i install ubunut on a NTFS partition
[11:12] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: oh, you want to know what server you're going to be connecting to ?
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: yes :-)
[11:13] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: and ion which port ... etc ...
[11:13] <EliteInsane> still beeping uugghgjhg
[11:13] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: it's default reject; I need to figure out what to allow so that apt-get doesn't hang when it hits security.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: you could try specifiying a server in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:13] <djlenoir> i need a little help. i have one ntfs drive that won't mount because it says it was improperly shutdown (when i had windows i guess) and i either don't know how to use ntfsfix or it is not working... how can i fix that ntfs volume?
[11:13] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: like i have ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <negnin> pvl1: I feel the need to warn you about your root status now (inspired by NessieLiberaton); use it with care ;)
[11:13] <faraaz> u dont have windows anymore?
[11:14] <qazwsx> Meroigo: I can't even ping ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <DexterF> can't access an NFS share here. export seems ok, nfsd is running, clients can't mount.
[11:14] <qazwsx> Meroigo: wrong person, sorry
[11:14] <djlenoir> i removed windows and replaced it with ubuntu
[11:14] <tanath> EliteInsane, type dmesg in a terminal and see what it spits out. maybe there's some error or something
[11:14] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I can't even ping ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <DexterF> used to work, no clue where to look
[11:14] <faraaz> eeesh
[11:14] <C> NessieLiberation: when I go to the specific RealPlayer directory and click realplay, the Real Player open....by terminal.
[11:14] <faraaz> then how come you still have the NTFS drive?
[11:14] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: actually i have ie.archive set, not security
[11:14] <pvl1> negnin: thanks, ill kepp that in mind, but should i got into the directory, should i ls -l?
[11:14] <adamrn83> hi
[11:14] <EliteInsane> a lot came up
[11:15] <EliteInsane> like a lot
[11:15] <tannerld> I got a Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 error when starting nautilus or terminal
[11:15] <adamrn83> im trying to get my machine to play dvds, it wont work help
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> C: have you tried reinstalling real player with the installation script ? it might be easier
[11:15] <djlenoir> lol, because all my data are on those drives. i guess i read that ntfs-3g worked fine with ntfs and didn't worry about it. i do still have another computer with Vista though.
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: what have you tried?
[11:15] <EliteInsane> [ 1190.227259]  operapluginwrap[6858] : segfault at 00000000000004d1 rip 00000000f7db9516 rsp 00000000ffca6a30 error 4
[11:15] <EliteInsane> 
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> !dvd > adamrn83
[11:15] <EliteInsane> thats the latest one
[11:15] <adamrn83> what does that mean
[11:15] <adamrn83> im new
[11:16] <darklordveynom> is there a way in C++ to find out if someone typed a character instead of a number?
[11:16] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: it means you should have a message from ubotu telling you all that i know about dvds
[11:16] <negnin> pvl1: yeah or try sudo chmod 655 on that dir
[11:16] <adamrn83> ne way ive installed gxine
[11:16] <adamrn83> and tried to get libdvdcss2
[11:16] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: "tried"
[11:16] <adamrn83> but i dont think it worked properly
[11:16] <C> NessieLiberation: I was thinking about, but I wanna know how can I uninstall the Real Player, without problems, can you help me do it?
[11:17] <djlenoir> faraaz: is it not possible to get it working without sticking it back in a windows machine?
[11:17] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: ls -l, who is listed as owner
[11:17] <negnin> pvl1: (i said 644 earlier but I mixed up my numbers (doesn't really matter though, but 4 gives you just read permissions and 5 also execution permissions which is more standard for a dir))
[11:17] <NessieLiberaton> C: not really, i believe that the installer script should just correct it though
[11:17] <pvl1> negnin, o ok well i did both
[11:18] <Warsocket> just a question for a guy i know
[11:18] <qazwsx> what do I need ot open up in my firewall to allow security.ubuntu.com updates?
[11:18] <rene7705> ehhh guys.... i ran into a bit of a problem; gedit lost a file of mine while i was editing it over ftp.. it's GONE, as is the gedit instance that froze for over an hour and couldnt get along with ddd... it's a webdevelopment sourcefile so it should b in the firefox cache for instance still.. anyone here know the firefox source and can point me to the cachecontrol routines? or any other tips to retrieve a file lost by gedit crashing during
[11:18] <adamrn83> when i tried to get libdvdcss synpatic returned an error
[11:18] <rene7705>  ftp transfer?
[11:18] <negnin> pvl1: uhh I mean 755 :) damn I need either sleep or coffee :)
[11:18] <C> humm....did you do it yet?
[11:18] <Warsocket> What can you do if you remove yourself form the 'admin' group ?
[11:18] <tanath> EliteInsane, sorry, bouncing back and forth here
[11:18] <EliteInsane> no problem
[11:18] <tanath> EliteInsane, anything that looks like a hardware error, perhaps?
[11:18] <pvl1> negnin: or both, ok ill try that
[11:18] <NessieLiberaton> Warsocket: so there are no admin group users? maybe fix it with a liveCD
[11:19] <notebook> i'm installing feisty on an ibm thinkpad but it's not finding the operating system, can anyone help?
[11:19] <C> NessieLiberaton: did you do this operation yet?
[11:19] <NessieLiberaton> C: a long time ago - i wouldnt have a clue now what it said then
[11:19] <negnin> pvl1: 7 gives all permissions (rwx for root, 5 gives r-x for all members of the group of this dir and the last 5 gives the permissions for 'others')
[11:20] <EliteInsane> tanath, not that i cant tell
[11:20] <notebook> is there anything specific about installing ubuntu on an ibm thinkpad?
[11:20] <notebook> a bios problem maybe?
[11:20] <negnin> pvl1: so you now know what you're actually doing :)
[11:20] <pvl1> negnin ooo kool system, ty.
[11:20] <riaal> How do I close the GUI? I need to remove "fglrx"
[11:20] <stefg> notebook: what happens exactly when you try to boot ?
[11:20] <NessieLiberaton> notebook: this laptop (not a thinkpad) gave that error last week, but it works fine before and after - just a 1 off
[11:20] <tanath> EliteInsane, so you can't find anything that happens when the beeps do?
[11:20] <notebook> it says operating system not found, stefg
[11:21] <djlenoir> guess faraaz left... anyone have suggestions on how to get the ntfs drive fixed so i can mount it in ubuntu?
[11:21] <EliteInsane> no
[11:21] <stefg> notebook: is this a dual boot system ?
[11:21] <C> NessieLiberaton: so...how can I do this installation with the script?
[11:21] <adamrn83> when trying to play dvds whats the next step after installing libdvdcss2 and gxine?
[11:21] <tanath> EliteInsane, is it like a pc speaker beep, or a sound-byte 'chime' or something?
[11:21] <notebook> "pxe-m0f: exiting intel pxe rom"
[11:21] <EliteInsane> chime
[11:21] <riaal> How do I shutdown X (GUI)?? I need to remove a VGA driver (fglrx) please?
[11:21] <notebook> it shouldn't be, but i bought a used hard drive that i'm installing on an old laptop
[11:21] <EliteInsane> havent heard it in a couple minutes here now
[11:21] <EliteInsane> hmm
[11:21] <notebook> thanks for responding, stefg
[11:21] <NessieLiberaton> C: you download it from the realpayer website - realplayer10gold.bin or something
[11:22] <C> I have installed by this one....realplayer10gold.bin
[11:22] <pvl1> negnin: it still doesnt give 'others' permission. could this be a problem with my ipod?
[11:22] <negnin> pvl1: yeah it's cool, 1 stands for x, 2 stands for w and 4 for r. If you add them up you can different combinations of permissions.
[11:22] <NessieLiberaton> C: that's the one - run it again
[11:23] <stefg> notebook: often the bios needs a drive to be marked as active, although neither grub (the bootloader) nor the linux kernel cares about that. Have you already installed ubuntu on that thing, or do you try to boot the CD ?
[11:23] <djlenoir> well if no one can assist with the ntfs drive problem, maybe someone can help me with my other immediate problem... my system uses a logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse and i have to pull the usb receiver out and plug it back in every time i reboot ubuntu. i can live with it but it would be nice if i did not have to do that. :)
[11:23] <negnin> pvl1: not likely. How do you check if the permissions? with ls -l?
[11:23] <tanath> EliteInsane, then it's prolly not an error
[11:23] <tanath> EliteInsane, maybe you have a virus and someone's trying to drive you insane :P
[11:23] <pvl1> negnin: i right click on the folder and go into permissions
[11:23] <notebook> the ubuntu cd booted, and the install went ok.  but then it won't boot from the hard drive.  is there a way to change the bios?
[11:23] <C> NessieLiberaton: but Won't I need uninstall or erase some dirs or files before?
[11:24] <EliteInsane> heh
[11:24] <EliteInsane> possible
[11:24] <tanath> EliteInsane, you sure all the sounds are turned off in the prefs?
[11:24] <NessieLiberaton> C: presumably it'll just do the installation process again - hence creating, not destroying - and i would imagine you would be alright if it is already there
[11:24] <Jnaut> i love ubuntu
[11:24] <stefg> notebook: you need to look at the situation from the Live CD booted on that computer again
[11:24] <riaal> How do I switch to runlevel 1??
[11:24] <bruenig> init 1
[11:25] <pvl1> negnin: and ls -l on tells me that root is the owner
[11:25] <EliteInsane> yes
[11:25] <bruenig> you want to do that in tty though
[11:25] <notebook> which option on the live cd should i select, stefg?  thanks again
[11:25] <EliteInsane> but i havent heard it for a while now
[11:25] <EliteInsane> so maybe i did something
[11:25] <EliteInsane> ok there it goes
[11:25] <stefg> notebook: just boot it up as you did before installing
[11:25] <C> NessieLiberaton: so...I can use the same directory in the installation process, right?
[11:25] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: wont he want to sudo chown those files to his nick
[11:25] <NessieLiberaton> C: yup
[11:25] <C> NessieLiberaton: humm....I'll try now
[11:26] <notebook> just tried the boot from drive option on the live cd and it seems to be loading.  i guess the bios just doesn't know where to look.  do i go f1 at opening to redirect?
[11:26] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: yeah, shouldn't really matter though if the permissions are ok, but let's try that
[11:26] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: are you still in the root shell ?
[11:26] <tanath> EliteInsane, lol. BTW, use my name when talking to me, so i'll notice :)
[11:26] <pvl1> nessieLiberaton: yes
[11:26] <negnin> pvl1: we're going to try NessieLiberaton's approach and change the group of this dir
[11:26] <tanath> EliteInsane, you know about tab completion, right?
[11:26] <willdev> bbc - most business use microsoft operating systems on servers because they know it will work haahhhahaahha
[11:27] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: then chmod YOUR USERNAME:YOUR USERNAME *
[11:27] <EliteInsane> tanath,  yea just i dont do it sometimes
[11:27] <EliteInsane> tanath, sorry
[11:27] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: or better still: chmod -R YOUR USERNAME:YOUR USERNAME *
[11:27] <Ajnin> Anyone fond of Oracle?
[11:28] <stefg> notebook: you nedd to run a disk utility and look if the boot partition is marked 'active' (has the boot flag set) you can only now by bootng the Live CD and llok ate the partition table by running fdisk or cfdisk from CD
[11:28] <tanath> EliteInsane, only thing i can think of right now is to play around with the settings in Sys > Prefs > Sounds. there's a few check boxes there that might do it
[11:28] <EliteInsane> hmm
[11:28] <Ajnin> What's the prob?
[11:28] <Ajnin> W/ Elite?
[11:28] <EliteInsane> tanath, lol i just imported my IE favorite from windows to opera
[11:28] <EliteInsane> Ajnin, ubuntu keeps playing chimes
[11:29] <pvl1> nessieliberaton says the directory doesnt exsist
[11:29] <Ajnin> Cycles over again?
[11:29] <EliteInsane> Ajnin, like something is trying to get my attention but nothing is blinking
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: you dont have a browser open with a website with a sound background do you ?
[11:29] <Pelo> EliteInsane,  menu > systmwe < prefs > sounds
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: what did you type ?
[11:29] <Balsus-Legdre> sorry but I am a first class noob. In terminal server I am currently in apax@apax-desktop:~$   how do I get in root
[11:29] <Ajnin> Hmm..
[11:29] <djlenoir> anyone else use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse with ubuntu? do you have to reset your usb bluetooth dongle each time you reboot the system?
[11:29] <EliteInsane> no and did taht
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> Balsus-Legdre: why do you want root?
[11:29] <tanath> EliteInsane, what apps are running right now? what's in the systray
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> !sudo > Balsus-Legdre
[11:29] <EliteInsane> opera
[11:29] <pvl1> nessieliberaton: chmod -r pavel:pavel *
[11:29] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, put sudo before your command
[11:29] <EliteInsane> tanath, opera, gaim ,xchat
[11:30] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: are you going to take over? because then I'm leaving.. otherwise I'll hang around till it's fixed
[11:30] <Szeraax> can anyone help me? I'm trying to use make with a folder, but the files disappeared after i ran make, look near the end of this. --> http://pastebin.com/d6a4214fd
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> Im looking ata tutorial and it shows extraction to root
[11:30] <tanath> EliteInsane, gaim or xchat might do it. xchat when your name is used
[11:30] <notebook> running fdisk now, stefg, can you walk me through what to do?  much appreciated
[11:30] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: is it when xchat isnt active and someone says your name?
[11:30] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, do you mean to /root ?
[11:30] <EliteInsane> tanath, i check xchat every time
[11:30] <redbox> has anyone gotten mondorescue to archive and restore via CD correctly on a Ubuntu 7.04 machine?
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> yes sorry
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> I was not clear
[11:30] <mox> who know sometink about dell bios ?
[11:30] <EliteInsane> tanath, and most of the time my name hasnt been said
[11:30] <tanath> EliteInsane, check the server tab too?
[11:30] <GIn> why is Pidgin not in the repo of Feisty?
[11:30] <adamrn83> trying to get ubuntu to play dvds is really getting me down now
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: uppercase -R
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, yea, nothing new
[11:31] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,   cd /root  that will get you into the /root folder
[11:31] <hacknslash> mox: what u want to know
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> GIn: because it wasnt released when feisty was frozen
[11:31] <spyteman> hey guys, i did some mistakes with lirc i think and now my ati remote control wont work anymore... how do i switch back to original ubuntu 7.04 configuration? i think it was already working from scratch ;-)
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, well it seems to be not happening all that often anymore
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, so i guess ill be fine
[11:31] <mox> i want to delate the pw
[11:31] <jack_mcdowell> did anyone else get a "Gnome Settings Daemon Restarts too many times, trash ..." after today's Gutsy upgrade?
[11:31] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  you can also man tar to see what options you need to use to extract a file to a specific folder
[11:31] <bruenig> jack_mcdowell, wrong channel +1
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> jack_mcdowell: gutsy isnt in here, #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <jamison> i used synaptic to install wine--now how do i configure it?
[11:31] <jack_mcdowell> thanks
[11:32] <pvl1> nessieliberaton: now it says invalid mode. could my ubuntu install be messed up? or could i be missing packages?
[11:32] <RichardHunt> Hi I'm trying to use fceu or mednafen to play super mario bros. The game's running far too fast. I tried disabling cpu stepping to see if this had an effect, but no good. Anyone had this and fixed it?
[11:32] <tanath> GIn, i believe it's in gutsy, but was not released in time for feisty
[11:32] <negnin> pvl1: you want to use chown iso chmod here
[11:32] <stefg> notebook: open a terminal on the Live CD session and run 'sudo fdisk -l'. if you are able to connect to the internet from the Live-Session paste that to !pastebin. if  not look if there is a '*' in front of the boot partition
[11:32] <GIn> tanath, any way to get it installed on Feisty?
[11:32] <tanath> GIn, there's a deb for it on getdeb though
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> apax@apax-desktop:~$ cd /root
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> apax@apax-desktop:/root$ sudo mkdir /opt/dynamips
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> mkdir: cannot create directory `/opt/dynamips': File exists
[11:32] <adamrn83> can someone help with dvd playback
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> when I go and browse in the root directory it is empty
[11:32] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: sorry - my fault - i made a typo: chown, not chmod
[11:32] <stefg> !pastebin | notebook
[11:32] <ubotu> notebook: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,   cd /opt  see if there is alreasdy a dynamips folder there
[11:33] <mpoufos_sketo> how to configure apache so each user has it's own web page?
[11:33] <NessieLiberaton> GIn: yes, but it's a bit fiddley
[11:33] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, type ls to see the folder content
[11:33] <tanath> jack_mcdowell, yes. there's a couple in #ubuntu+1 that did
[11:33] <negnin> pvl1: chown changes the owner of files and dirs
[11:33] <Ajnin> Ubuntu is an OS?
[11:33] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: i typed chmod for him, not chown - that was the problem :P
[11:34] <stefg> Ajnin: no ubuntu is a religion
[11:34] <NessieLiberaton> Ajnin: yes
[11:34] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, because when you type  mkdir /opt//dynamips  you are creating a folder in /opt
[11:34] <notebook> stefg, it says /dev/sda1 and that has an *.  there are two others listed - sda2 and sda5
[11:34] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: yeah I saw :)
[11:34] <notebook> one is extended and one is linux swap / solaris
[11:34] <Pelo> Ajnin, yes it is an os , fully loaded with a butload of apps
[11:34] <Balsus-Legdre> Im such a dums ass
[11:34] <notebook> thanks so much for helping with this, stefg
[11:34] <hacknslash> mox: which dell ?
[11:34] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  you are not , you are just learning
[11:34] <Ajnin> Pelo | NessieLiberaton: Very nice, I'll have to look into this.
[11:34] <Balsus-Legdre> how would I delete the folder in that directory then
[11:34] <stefg> notebook: so ubuntu is installed to sda1 i'll assume
[11:34] <notebook> that appears correct, stefg
[11:34] <negnin> pvl1: did you try the command NessieLiberaton gave you, but with 'chown' in stead of 'chmod'?
[11:35] <notebook> it booted from the drive fine when i told it to do so from the live cd
[11:35] <mox> latitude d520
[11:35] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  sudo rm -r /opt/dynamips
[11:35] <spyteman> can anyone help me? how do i get infrared remote control back to ubuntu 7.04 defaults? or how do i fix LIRC?
[11:35] <stefg> notebook: hmmm.... so lets reinstall the boot loader. run 'sudo grub' in the terminal, the prompt will change to 'grub>'
[11:35] <pvl1> negnin, nessieLiberaton: well sudo chown pavel:pavel * gives me an output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37736/
[11:36] <notebook> ok in that, stefg
[11:36] <pvl1> negnin, nessieliberaton: well i added in the last line but yea now it tells me that
[11:36] <stefg> notebook: run' find /boot/grub/stage1' . what turns up ?
[11:36] <hacknslash> mox: is it stopping you logging in ?
[11:36] <notebook> do i type "run' ..." or just find...
[11:36] <Balsus-Legdre> Thanks Pelo!!!
[11:37] <NessieLiberaton> notebook: just find...
[11:37] <notebook> hd0,0
[11:37] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, the following links might come in handy  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php     http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[11:37] <mox> ther blocking my w-lan and  audio
[11:37] <Centaur5> Is it possible to make a dhcp server force all the workstations to use it instead of another one on the network?
[11:37] <mox> but i can go in
[11:38] <Balsus-Legdre> Quick question pelo why if I am installing from a tar file do I have to chose a the root opt location to install an application can I not extracted it anywhere or is that for all installtions
[11:38] <stefg> notebook: ok, now type 'root (hd0,0)' then type 'setup (hd0)'
[11:38] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: im off - hope you can sort him out
[11:38] <|Skull|> Hey guys, trying to hookup my TV to my pc via DVI connector on my geforce 6200... tv does 720p and 1080i. The best res I could get it to run in is 720x480. However, at this resolution, it is bigger then the screen. Any idea how I can fix this?
[11:38] <notebook> it says suceed and done, stefg
[11:39] <notebook> i mean, succeeded
[11:39] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  if you are insatlling from a tar.gz file you are actualy compiling from source,  this is a whole proceedure in itself and you shouldn'T have to extract it to anywhere other then your desktop
[11:39] <Ajnin> To prevent me from having to look through the couple thousand rooms, does anyone know a room for ways to bypass Lightspeed Systems?
[11:39] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  look in  there are very good explanations there http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[11:39] <stefg> notebook: ok, then 'quit' and try to reboot. remove CD and floppy and usb and stuff to make sure the bios boots from hd
[11:40] <notebook> ok thanks trying now
[11:40] <Pelo> gtg , back later
[11:40] <negnin> pvl1: did you do the chown with the -R (-R makes it recursive, so it will also apply to all child directories)?
[11:41] <notebook> still giving me the same error, stefg.
[11:41] <Traveler9> Should I download Gutsy?
[11:41] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:41] <s3nz0r> ???
[11:42] <Traveler9> I've got a Thinkpad X61, and I hear that Feisty won't work.
[11:42] <pvl1> negnin: uhm i just did and it gave me relativly the same output only now with a directory tree of /music/
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <pvl1> negnin and it specifically says changing of ownership is not allowd
[11:42] <stefg> notebook: check the bios. we have just put a valid master boot record on the first hd. so either the bios doesn't look at it, or for some reason the bios and grub disagree on what the first harddisk is
[11:43] <Ajnin> What applications does Ubuntu auto. come with?
[11:43] <ex_> hey
[11:43] <negnin> pvl1: can you read the files you need to read now?
[11:43] <ex_> Does anyone know why I can only view my Linux Shares from my windows machines and not my windows shares from my linux machine using samba
[11:43] <notebook> changed the bios, it wasn't looking at the new hard drive.  working now, thanks so much for your help!  all the best.
[11:44] <pvl1> negnin no not anymore
[11:44] <Max_-> hey y'all! I'm having a little problem here.. I'm trying to add some modules, but I just realized there was not even a /etc/modules directory.. is there any apt-get command to get these in place, or... no.. or something else? need some bttv module configurations!! THANKS!
[11:44] <adamrn83> why is it almost impossible to get my dvds to play
[11:44] <yokomo> what is a good newsreader for linux?
[11:45] <negnin> pvl1: ?not anymore? The goal is to get some app to read a certain file/dir, right?
[11:45] <rathel> I installed something through .deb and it works better than what's up on the repo. how do I ignore the repo version? It keeps asking to update.
[11:45] <|Skull|> Hey guys, trying to hookup my TV to my pc via DVI connector on my geforce 6200... tv does 720p and 1080i. The best res I could get it to run in is 720x480. However, at this resolution, it is bigger then the screen. Any idea how I can fix this?
[11:45] <pvl1> negnin: yea, but i can change the permissions for my username through the right click nd permissions tab
[11:45] <zoredache> rathel: look into pinning
[11:45] <eugman> Is it possible to have it so nautilus doesn't save deleted files in a trash folder for portable media?
[11:45] <pvl1> negnin but i cant change them for groups or others
[11:45] <ex_> Anyone help me with a samba question
[11:46] <gerro> help please! "mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist"
[11:46] <negnin> pvl1: yeah, but that's why we use the command line
[11:46] <gerro> ah nvm think I found solution :/
[11:47] <kenji>  guys, Im searching a svn client frontend, can you recommend me a stable gtk svn frontend?
[11:47] <pvl1> negnin: well ive been using the terminal since i got in this chat, so idk how that coulda worked
[11:47] <Traveler9> skull: HDTV?
[11:47] <|Skull|> ya
[11:47] <Traveler9> Hmm.
[11:48] <|Skull|> it's a panasonic 48" rear projection with hdtv capabilities
[11:48] <|Skull|> I have it connected to pc via a DVI cable
[11:48] <Traveler9> 720p should be roughly 720 by 1,3xx pixels. Can't remember it exactly.
[11:48] <Traveler9> There's a big website dedicated to this sort of thing.
[11:48] <Traveler9> It's a DVI cable? Not HDMI?
[11:48] <ex_> Anyone know anything about SAMBA
[11:48] <|Skull|> yes, dvi
[11:48] <negnin> pvl1: but the chown, despite giving some errors, should have changed some ownerships
[11:48] <stefg> !samba | ex_
[11:48] <ubotu> ex_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:48] <Traveler9> (HDMI is DVI with a lot of extra bits mixed in, most of which are for copy-protection; I.E, annoyance.)
[11:49] <IdleOne> ex_: ask your question and if someone can help they will
[11:49] <n-iCe> How can I know my root pass ?
[11:49] <stefg> !root
[11:49] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:49] <pvl1> negnin: well it tries but gives errors saying that the operation isnt permitted
[11:49] <IdleOne> n-iCe: use sudo
[11:49] <negnin> pvl1: is your app still complaining or are the errors exactly the files that needed to be changed?
[11:49] <|Skull|> this one is just dvi... not hdmi
[11:49] <n-iCe> IdleOne yeah but it askes me my roto pass if i lost it how can i know it again?
[11:49] <C> someone know about what the best Totem plugin to watch mpg videos? or other application to watch them?
[11:49] <ex_> I can view my linux shares from my windows computers but i can view my windows shares from my linux computer any thoughts?
[11:49] <IdleOne> n-iCe: the root pass is your user password when using sudo
[11:50] <pvl1> negnin: still complaining
[11:50] <steel_lady> something very strange is happening to my system, I think it is since I upgraded to feisty. I  just open my external disk and it freezes. and it mounts external disk twice
[11:50] <Balsus-Legdre> what does cle do in terminal
[11:50] <n-iCe> IdleOne but i typed su , my user pass and oesn't work
[11:50] <stefg> n-iCe: if you did not intentionally set up the root account with a password there is no root password in ubuntu
[11:50] <Chousuke> n-iCe: sudo -i
[11:50] <Chousuke> for a root shell
[11:50] <Balsus-Legdre> what does cle command do in terminal
[11:51] <Ajnin> What is the difference between a Male DVI and a Female DVI?
[11:51] <mpouf> how to enable user directory web page in apache?
[11:51] <n-iCe> Chousuke thank you!! why -i ? how do i set a sudo pass ?
[11:51] <stefg> Ajnin: male is a plug, feamle is a socket
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: the sudo pass is your user's pass
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: it's intentionally not separate.
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: so make sure your user's pass is secure
[11:52] <steel_lady> does somebody have experience in managing hardware and external disks, mounting, etc?
[11:52] <IdleOne> !root | n-iCe please read this link
[11:52] <ubotu> n-iCe please read this link: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:53] <stefg> !ask | steel_lady
[11:53] <ubotu> steel_lady: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:53] <ex_> I can view my linux shares from my windows computers but i can view my windows shares from my linux computer any thoughts?
[11:53] <negnin> pvl1: and if you run this program using sudo (just to troubleshoot)?
[11:54] <n-iCe> thank you
[11:54] <negnin> ex_: what are you trying?
[11:54] <ex_> To view and access windows shares on ubuntu
[11:54] <eugman> ex_, Doing some research on fstab, it amy help.
[11:54] <steel_lady> stefg, since I was upgrading to feisty my system behaves strange way so that I was thinking that I have some hardware problem. I entered windows and there it works perfectly even with external disk that only on opening in ubuntu freezes the system
[11:55] <rockets> Why does ubuntu-desktop depend on esound? Why not use pulse's esound compatibility library
[11:55] <negnin> ex_: duh, so are you using smbclient or what?
[11:55] <jamison> can someone help me figure out why WINE won't remember the directory i tell it to map as C: ?
[11:55] <steel_lady> stefg, before it was slow working with disk but things now went to worse
[11:55] <stefg> ex_: you need corresponding accounts on both machines, and samba won't accept pasword less windows accounts
[11:56] <s3nz0r> hy all :P
[11:56] <ex_> stefg but i set and enabled  the windows account without a passsword and it went through fine?
[11:56] <hacknslash> stefg: are you low on free disk space ?
[11:56] <steel_lady> stefg, when I turn on the external disk, it mounts 2 times, when I unmount one of them, the other freezes
[11:56] <stefg> steel_lady: you need to elobarte that. what partitions with which filesystems are involved there, and on which drives?
[11:57] <negnin> ex_: do you know the ip/name of the windows machine?
[11:57] <vancomycin> if you improperly shut down ubuntu, i.e. - turned off power, upon rebooting, is it normal before the ubuntu logo screen to have some script code running (not sure on how to describe this) it'll list a bunch of things w/ [OK]  to the right, then in the end, says "FILE SYSTEM NOT CLEAN" then proceeds back to the ubuntu boot screen and login.... just curious to know what that means? I went into the regular text console and didn't know h
[11:57] <vancomycin> ow to get out.
[11:57] <ex_> negnin yes i do
[11:57] <s3nz0r> how do  instal steam
[11:57] <s3nz0r> how do  instal steam
[11:57] <s3nz0r> ????
[11:57] <negnin> ex_: try smbclient -L ip_of_windows_machine on the commandline
[11:57] <stefg> !games
[11:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:58] <magnetron> s3nz0r: see appdb.winehq.orf
[11:58] <magnetron> s3nz0r: see appdb.winehq.org
[11:58] <steel_lady> stefg, I have linux system partition, I have ext partition for working I have storage fat32 and win partition. and I am mounting FAT32 external disk
[11:58] <stefg> !games | s3nz0r
[11:58] <ubotu> s3nz0r: please see above
[11:58] <ex_> doing that i can view the shares
[11:58] <ex_> I see all the shares fine in command line neginin
[11:59] <stefg> steel_lady: ok.. so there are no ntfs partitions involved, right? have you looked at dmesg already ?
[11:59] <Jessicatz> is any1 here?
[11:59] <e> quasi
[12:00] <steel_lady> stefg,k I think that the main problem is this external hard drive and I have to work on it because I have a lot of data for my work. the system freezes by opening the contents of the external disk in a folder
[12:00] <Jessicatz> thats certainly a mild answer in respect of the dumbness of my question
[12:00] <ex_> negnin i can view it with smbclient -L ipofmachine any thoughts
[12:00] <ompaul> !U | Jessicatz
[12:00] <ubotu> Jessicatz: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[12:00] <Jessicatz> I thought I would unleash a small flame with acting like a retard
[12:00] <negnin> ex_: mount the share
[12:00] <robdeman> folks
[12:01] <stefg> steel_lady: external disks easily become corrupt, because the get a lot of mechanical stress, and are often not cleanly unmounted. what filesystem is this externel disk ?
[12:01] <steel_lady> stefg I think fat32
[12:01] <robdeman> I did a sudo apt-get remove nvidia* on Feisty -- oops -- how do I reinstall nvidia / gnome etc? I have no Gnome desktop anymore .. xorg log errors
[12:01] <ex_> negnin how would i do so ?
[12:01] <IdleOne> Jessicatz: it is not the flame you should be worried about but the smoke that follows
[12:01] <steel_lady> stefg, how can I do a clean mount? it mounts twice
[12:02] <stefg> steel_lady: plug it in, run sudo fdsik -l and put results to !pastebin
[12:02] <AncientRelic> Can Linux read my mac's external drive?
[12:02] <Jessicatz> IdleOne: well I had this experience just now, someone joined in a channel I'm in and asked "any1 here?"
[12:02] <negnin> ex_:  mount -t smbfs -o username=ex_,password=foobar //windows_ip/share_name /mnt
[12:02] <stefg> steel_lady: and while you are at it, paste 'dmesg' output to !pastebin, too
[12:02] <smallfoot-> OpenOffice.org 2.3 released (16 sept) -- http://www.openoffice.org/
[12:03] <smallfoot-> get it, while its hot!
[12:03] <IdleOne> !offtopic | smallfoot-
[12:03] <ubotu> smallfoot-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <AncientRelic> goodness, OSS spam
[12:03] <stefg> steel_lady: that's 'sudo fdisk -l' btw
[12:03] <smallfoot-> yeah baby!