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| mattyboy | hello | 01:56 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 02:48 |
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| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 02:49 |
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| joebob777as7 | is there an easy way to make it so no users can see other user's documents? | 04:29 |
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| === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | ||
| === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Mon Sep 10 15:33:06 2007 | ||
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| sbalneav | joebob777as7: Set up a shared directory | 05:01 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | joebob777as7, set home dirs to 700 | 06:21 |
| joebob777as7 | Kamping_Kaiser, is there a way to make all future home dirs 700? | 06:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | joebob777as7, look at /etc/adduser.conf (if you add users with adduser) | 06:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | # If DIR_MODE is set, directories will be created with the specified | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | # mode. Otherwise the default mode 0755 will be used. | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | DIR_MODE=0755 | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | personally i like 701, i find 755 a little silly | 06:25 |
| joebob777as7 | Kamping_Kaiser, what will 701 do different than 700? sorry i'm still a little behind on the whole permissions thing too long using windows i'm afraid.... | 06:26 |
| joebob777as7 | so 700 will only allow user to see and modify his/her files? | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | joebob777as7, 700 only allows the user to see/edit files | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | 701 allows only the user to see+edit files, but also allows applications to enter the home directory - its useful if you have apache and want peopels public_html directory read | 06:27 |
| joebob777as7 | oh ok thx a ton! | 06:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | np | 06:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hope it helps, i'm off :) | 06:29 |
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| JenZbe | is somebody here using edubuntu in a school (client-server environment)? | 12:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | a number are | 12:27 |
| JenZbe | any1 have any tips or guides on the net | 12:29 |
| JenZbe | i currently have all my students and teachers on a W2k3-domain | 12:29 |
| JenZbe | but all the profiles are getting too big for my old server | 12:29 |
| JenZbe | so i wanna make it very simple and use (ed)ubuntu clients and only 2 accounts (teacher or pupil) | 12:30 |
| JenZbe | but i have no experience with an ubuntu-server | 12:31 |
| JenZbe | i want to have all the students use 1 account 'student' (no pwd) but they all have a seperate folder (pwd-protected) on a fileserver | 12:31 |
| JenZbe | + students have to be forbidden to make changes (like shortcuts, backgrounds, installations of prg's, ... | 12:32 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser says good luck with it. | ||
| JenZbe | tnx! :) | 12:33 |
| JenZbe | how does the idea sound? | 12:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure how feasable it will be to get only two accounts. | 12:35 |
| JenZbe | what does 'feasable' mean (i'm from belgium) | 12:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | forbidding changes should be posible | 12:36 |
| JenZbe | that would be the easiest i think | 12:36 |
| JenZbe | yeah, with a really limited account-type | 12:36 |
| JenZbe | they only need internet and openoffice (writer) | 12:36 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | unless its been superceded, sabayon and its ilk are probably what your after for locking down | 12:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | um, feasable means roughly possible | 12:38 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *sp | 12:38 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:06 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Hey, found a bug in cdpinger, check my ltspfs-upstream tree. | 03:07 |
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| RichEd | hey sbalneav | 03:21 |
| RichEd | ogra pushed until 5:40 am this morning ... he may be in late | 03:21 |
| sbalneav | Morning RichEd | 03:21 |
| sbalneav | Ah, busy day? What was up? | 03:21 |
| RichEd | getting an image to intel for the classmate for IDF san francisco | 03:22 |
| sbalneav | Cool. | 03:23 |
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| ogra | RichEd, i'm around since 4h already :) | 03:58 |
| RichEd | ogra :) | 03:58 |
| ogra | sbalneav, did you get my ping about the server sizing page in the handbbok yesterday ? | 03:59 |
| ogra | *handbook | 03:59 |
| RichEd | glad he got the USB sticks ... a lot easier | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | Yes I did. | 03:59 |
| ogra | yeah | 03:59 |
| ogra | well | 03:59 |
| sbalneav | I'll bump it up today. | 03:59 |
| ogra | a lot of wasted time on all sides the last days | 03:59 |
| ogra | sbalneav, thanks :) | 03:59 |
| nubae | hi... am getting a problem that I'm unsure about when I try to apt-get update: | 04:00 |
| nubae | Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_US | 04:00 |
| nubae | Could not connect to es.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (150.214.5.135). - connect (111 Connection refused) | 04:00 |
| nubae | my entire sources.list gets that | 04:00 |
| sbalneav | Also, we're missing a feature in configure-x.sh. We need a way to pass X Options to the driver, so we can say X_OPTION_01 = "NoAccel". I'll add that tonight. | 04:00 |
| ogra | can you ping es.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 04:00 |
| nubae | and I have access to the internet and port 80 without problems... looked on the net for some helpful info, without luck | 04:00 |
| nubae | yes | 04:00 |
| ogra | sbalneav, sounds great ... dont forget in two days we'll have beta freeze | 04:01 |
| nubae | actually no, not that one... still there are more sources in there | 04:01 |
| nubae | I can ping packages.medibuntu.org which is in my sources.list | 04:03 |
| nubae | but get: Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.198.37.77). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 88.198.37.77 80] | 04:03 |
| nubae | when using apt-get | 04:03 |
| nubae | thought maybe it was squid, but get the same error with it off, and checked my firewall rules (makes no sense since I can get there from a web browser) | 04:05 |
| nubae | ping archive.canonical.com works fine too... also in my sources.list | 04:07 |
| nubae | any ideas? | 04:13 |
| shriphani | sbalneav: I need an edubuntu special features list. | 04:14 |
| shriphani | I need to prepare for the presentation see. | 04:14 |
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| RichEd | shriphani: let me send that presentation I owe you | 04:15 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:16 |
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| ogra | sbalneav, lol | 04:53 |
| ogra | sbalneav, did you ever have a look at the pictures they talk abut on the ML ? the page that makes the brosers crash ? | 04:53 |
| ogra | *browsers | 04:53 |
| ogra | i wonder if we really need to cover such crap or even waste thoughts on it ... | 04:54 |
| ogra | (every of these gallery pages has at least 30M of graphics) | 04:54 |
| RichEd | ogra: I was wondering why i got an admin mail saying "too large" | 05:00 |
| RichEd | next time I'll check more carefully before I release such sh!t^ | 05:00 |
| ogra | RichEd, ? | 05:00 |
| RichEd | are you talking about a mail to the edubuntu-users list ? | 05:01 |
| ogra | i was talking about the url that makes thin clients freeze due to firefox's pxmap cache usage | 05:01 |
| RichEd | oh ... sorry :) crossed wires | 05:01 |
| ogra | "tips for Opera users" is the thread | 05:01 |
| ogra | even though it had several names alrady, its an ongoing moaning :) | 05:02 |
| nubae | what are your comments on that being an error not related to just firefox? | 05:02 |
| nubae | cause lately its been attributed to openoffice, firefox, totem, vlc, etc etc | 05:02 |
| ogra | nubae, well, putting up a website with 15 jpegs each 1.2M on the frontpage is just evil | 05:02 |
| ogra | and people wonder why it takes hours to load | 05:03 |
| nubae | I agree, they're on thin clients for a reason :-) | 05:03 |
| nubae | I dont get the issue, but have lots of ram so... | 05:03 |
| ogra | nubae, well, nobody has seen it in the past | 05:03 |
| nubae | just seems like could turn into a troll... | 05:04 |
| ogra | and to be honest i dont see it here with oo.o or anything apart from firefox with this specific site | 05:04 |
| nubae | the latest mails are talking about it affecting X in general | 05:04 |
| ogra | well, jim broght the right explanation ... its a communication prob ... sadly none *we* can solve ... | 05:05 |
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| ogra | (jim mc quillian) | 05:05 |
| nubae | well, theres a lot of people with a good knowledge of linux and ubuntu so people are sure to mine the depths for explanations :-) | 05:06 |
| nubae | thats not always a good thing imho | 05:06 |
| HigH5 | Hello, I'm configuring a LTSP server with Ubuntu 7.04. I managed to build it, but I can't figure out how to create users to log in on the terminals. Can anybody tell me how to do it? | 05:06 |
| nubae | I'm still stuck with this damn apt-get problem... what log files should I look in, I've looked at syslog, dmesg, messages and cant find any sign of what could be causing this failure | 05:07 |
| nubae | HigH5, the easiest solution I found was using smbldap-installer | 05:08 |
| nubae | unless u dont need to serve using ldap or samba | 05:08 |
| HigH5 | No, I don't need those two. | 05:08 |
| nubae | then just adduser | 05:08 |
| HigH5 | Thru GUI? | 05:09 |
| nubae | in edubuntu there is a gui | 05:09 |
| nubae | under system -> Administration | 05:09 |
| ogra | HigH5, its in the system menu "user and groups" | 05:09 |
| HigH5 | Is there a package of it for plain ubuntu? | 05:09 |
| nubae | good question :-) | 05:10 |
| ogra | its in the default install ... the package is gnome-system-tools | 05:10 |
| HigH5 | I already did that, but it didn't help. | 05:10 |
| ogra | HigH5, so what do you see if you try to log in ? | 05:10 |
| ogra | whats the error/erratic behavior | 05:10 |
| HigH5 | It tried to log in but then it restarted the X server | 05:11 |
| ogra | try running: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and the try again | 05:11 |
| ogra | if that doesnt help, look in the ~/.xsession-errors file of the user you tried with | 05:12 |
| ogra | it should give an indicatore whats wrong | 05:13 |
| ogra | *indicator | 05:14 |
| HigH5 | Ok, thanks. I'll try to do that. | 05:16 |
| ogra | did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall for installation ? | 05:17 |
| HigH5 | Yup, it went smoothly. | 05:20 |
| nubae | how do I refresh /etc/exports? | 05:27 |
| ogra | restart nfs-kernel-server ? | 05:33 |
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| shriphani | ogra: ? | 06:28 |
| shriphani | or anyone for that matter? | 06:29 |
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| sbalneav | shriphani: yes? | 06:30 |
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| shriphani | We have a potential convert here. | 06:30 |
| shriphani | prolly one of the first schools in india. | 06:30 |
| shriphani | I got another appointment. Two schools have shown interest already. | 06:31 |
| shriphani | and I (slowly).. called myself edubuntu representative........ | 06:31 |
| shriphani | did I do anything wrong ? | 06:32 |
| sbalneav | Yes. | 06:32 |
| shriphani | calling myself edubuntu repr. ? | 06:32 |
| sbalneav | Well, ARE you? In any official capacity? | 06:33 |
| shriphani | err.. just kidding. I didn't call myself anything. | 06:33 |
| shriphani | honest. I called myself a repr. of the local lug. | 06:33 |
| sbalneav | You can call yourself whatever the heck you like. President of the known universe, if you like. | 06:34 |
| shriphani | :) | 06:34 |
| sbalneav | However, one day, someone's going to check up on your "title", somewhere. | 06:34 |
| shriphani | well as I said, I didn't advert. myself as edubuntu repr. | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | And if they find out you've been representing yourself as something your not, they're going to realize you're a liar. | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | How can I trust you? You said you did, now you say you didn't. See my problem? | 06:36 |
| shriphani | hmm..... | 06:36 |
| sbalneav | Now, I don't care, personally, it doesn't affect me. | 06:36 |
| sbalneav | But, lets just say a representitive of some Indian school board wanders into IRC to check things out... | 06:37 |
| shriphani | well... I didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr........ I just wanted to see the reaction... | 06:38 |
| sbalneav | and he or she says.. "Your representitive shriphani was here the other day, and we were really impressed with him". I'm gonna have to say, "He's not our representitive" | 06:38 |
| sbalneav | What's that going to do for your hard work, you figure? | 06:38 |
| shriphani | yeah..... :) I repeat didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr. | 06:38 |
| sbalneav | So, in other words, you're just telling stories to see if you can get a rise out of me? | 06:39 |
| shriphani | err.... umm.... | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | Dude, here's some advice. | 06:39 |
| sbalneav | Whn you find you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging. | 06:41 |
| shriphani | well umm is that the end of all hard feelings ? | 06:45 |
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| sbalneav | I have none. | 06:54 |
| sbalneav | Like I say, it's not affecting me. | 06:54 |
| sbalneav | :) | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | morning sbalneav | 06:55 |
| sbalneav | Morning LaserJock! | 06:55 |
| shriphani | I thought it would be a nice joke...... the rxn came as a shock...... | 06:56 |
| sbalneav | I'm just trying to save YOU some embarrasment. | 06:57 |
| shriphani | well umm if thats the end of this... where do I find jpeg logos of edubuntu ? I can only see svg everywhere......... | 06:58 |
| sbalneav | Well, take an svg logo, load it into Gimp, and save it as a jpg. | 06:59 |
| sbalneav | svg's are usually what's distributed, because they're scalable. | 06:59 |
| shriphani | can I embed svg into a odp ? | 06:59 |
| shriphani | an odp ^ | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | you'd probably have better luck converting it to a png | 07:00 |
| sbalneav | Don't know off the top of my head. Try and see. | 07:00 |
| sbalneav | Headin' out for lunch, gotta run off to the bank. I'll be back in an hour. | 07:01 |
| sbalneav | afk | 07:01 |
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| ogra | LaserJock, hey | 07:07 |
| shriphani | I cannot print large enough to read. I have a C3180 HP all in one printer . I need instructions to find and install fonts for my printer. <------ one of the projects on launchpad. | 07:13 |
| sbalneav | back | 07:27 |
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| joebob777as7 | hey i'm running gutsy and updated last night a brand new install and now when i log in nothing get's displayed aside from the wallpaper... can someone give me a hand? | 08:08 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: hi | 08:18 |
| ogra | LaserJock, had a chance to try the classmate image ? | 08:21 |
| ogra | i didnt have a chance to download any check if my splitting/merging for uploading didnt break everything | 08:21 |
| ogra | s/any/and | 08:21 |
| juliux | hi all | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | I haven't yet | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | I left it to download overnight | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | as I had to go to bed | 08:22 |
| juliux | ogra, sorry i forget testing the image from last friday, should i test a new one? | 08:22 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: so I need to have a 2GB USB stick and just boot off of that? | 08:22 |
| ogra | yeah, its quite huge, dont tell me :9 | 08:22 |
| ogra | juliux, indeed | 08:22 |
| juliux | ogra, any problems with quad ethernet cards? | 08:23 |
| ogra | LaserJock, yup, its using /dev/dcs hardcoded everywhere | 08:23 |
| ogra | *sdc | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | ugg | 08:23 |
| juliux | ogra, ok i will download the daily from today | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | ok, that works ok. I do have a 2GB stick | 08:23 |
| ogra | juliux, i dont have one, so i dont have probs with them :P | 08:23 |
| juliux | ogra, ok i will test this also;9 | 08:23 |
| ogra | juliux, no idea :) try it and report back :) | 08:23 |
| juliux | i will do so | 08:24 |
| juliux | but now i will download the daily from today;9 | 08:24 |
| ogra | dont even bother to try the liveCD | 08:25 |
| ogra | it wont boot atm | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | my gosh, 721MB | 08:25 |
| juliux | ogra, ohhh | 08:25 |
| ogra | not a size issue :) | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | the diff between amd64 and i386 on the DesktopCD is 40MB | 08:26 |
| ogra | yeah | 08:26 |
| ogra | we're all waiting for oo.o to become sane again | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | hehe, we could always kick it off ;-) | 08:26 |
| juliux | hm is there an other iso i can download? | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | wow 737 on server i386 | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | can they shave off 37MB from OO.o? | 08:27 |
| ogra | i think the ooo breakage pulls in 20-30M | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | k | 08:27 |
| ogra | but there are no definitive numbers anywhere so we'll have to wait | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | I guess it'll all have to come down before Beta | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I poked pitti about moodle | 08:28 |
| ogra | seems for compiz support for ltsp we'd need libgl1-mesa-dri on the CD as well :/ | 08:28 |
| ogra | thats ^6M | 08:29 |
| ogra | 16 | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | ugg | 08:29 |
| ogra | yeah | 08:29 |
| ogra | mesa changed a lot in gutsy | 08:30 |
| ogra | so currently we could easily support compiz out of the box in ltsp but would need to drop something from -server | 08:30 |
| LaserJock | could we put it on Addon somehow? | 08:31 |
| ogra | no | 08:31 |
| ogra | its either an ltsp-client dep or not | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | oh right, client | 08:31 |
| ogra | yep | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | we should have an edubuntu-bling package :-) | 08:31 |
| ogra | currently we dont install any GL support in ltsp due to the missing -dri | 08:31 |
| ogra | which is not really good | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | right | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | 16MB though is a lot | 08:32 |
| ogra | yep | 08:32 |
| ogra | just for some intel users | 08:32 |
| ogra | which are pretty rarae | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | so we'd have to drop quite a bit of Ubuntu or Edu stuff | 08:33 |
| ogra | or a language | 08:33 |
| ogra | portuguese is on my list already if ooo doesnt drop enough | 08:34 |
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| sbalneav | I'd say the simplest would be just to document how to add it in the handbook. | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | yes | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | I think maybe if we documented some things more it'd help | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | ogra: what about the edu stuff? | 08:46 |
| ogra | sbalneav, and break GL completely ? | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I tend to think it's confusing to have some edu stuff on one CD and some on another | 08:47 |
| ogra | thats true | 08:47 |
| ogra | did you say you wrote something about that ? | 08:47 |
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| ogra | *didnt | 08:47 |
| JordanC | Hey there! | 08:48 |
| JordanC | hi ogra :-) | 08:48 |
| ogra | sbalneav, its a regression and the only reason for having it is limited CD space of edubuntu ... i dont even think thats a valid reason to keep it out of ltsp | 08:48 |
| JordanC | no edubuntu forum? :-O | 08:48 |
| ogra | all former versions supported GL in ltsp out of the box | 08:49 |
| ogra | JordanC, i think there was an education subsection somewhere in the ubuntu forums (not sure though, i never read forums) | 08:49 |
| JordanC | Hmm | 08:50 |
| JordanC | I wanted to help out, anyway | 08:50 |
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| LaserJock | JordanC: yes, there is the Education & Science subforum on ubuntuforums.org | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | it's not Edubuntu specific but it gets talked about a fair amount there | 08:51 |
| Burgundavia | hey LaserJock | 08:51 |
| JordanC | Word :-) | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | hi Corey | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | argg, Beta is coming too fast :( | 08:54 |
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| juliux | ogra, now i have something for a real ltsp test;) my quad ethernet card is working;) so i have 4x 100mbit | 09:05 |
| ogra | nice | 09:06 |
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| joebob777as7 | if i install a nautilus script where does it install to? | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | ogra: do you know much about icons? | 09:30 |
| ogra | a bit, why ? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm trying to figure out what to do with the Addon Cd thing | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | how do I know what icons I can choose from? | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | it seems like that would greatly vary depending on what icon theme the user has | 09:33 |
| ogra | hmm | 09:34 |
| ogra | if you prefix them with edubuntu- you can do what you want :) | 09:34 |
| ogra | they need to be in the fallback theme (not sure thats still hicolor) | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | well | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | I was trying to do it without having to patch debian-cd again | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | i.e. using what's on the user's system rather than having to add the icons to the CD | 09:35 |
| ogra | well, your .desktop files contain icon names, right ? | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | yes | 09:35 |
| ogra | and they are in the -data package, no ? | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | the .directory files are | 09:36 |
| ogra | and they define the icon names ? | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | but I'd have to patch debian-cd to install icons onto the CD | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | yes | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | right now they use package_edutainment | 09:37 |
| ogra | and where dos this get its icon from ? | 09:37 |
| ogra | i saw they are all the little chalkboard | 09:37 |
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| yotux | have a question about ltsp | 09:38 |
| joebob777as7 | yotux, say it | 09:38 |
| yotux | in feisty is a complete os install for the chroot environment? | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | they are from the system icons | 09:38 |
| ogra | from gtk ? | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | mvo told me it'll fall back to /usr/share/app-install/icons/ if it can't find them | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | yeah, the user's gtk icon selection | 09:39 |
| ogra | yotux, its a basic system, a kernel, X and a login manager as well as some small helpers for sound and local device support | 09:39 |
| yotux | So the mirrors for ubuntu are not being used correct its all local network | 09:39 |
| ogra | LaserJock, well, then we put your icons into edubuntu-artwork and it installs them to /usr/share/app-install/icons/ | 09:40 |
| ogra | trivial | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | hmm, that should work for now | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | hmm, or should I bug cjwatson for a patch to debian-cd? | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | I just don't know how readily he'll take patches this late in development | 09:42 |
| ogra | right | 09:42 |
| ogra | thats why i suggested to have it simply in the icons | 09:42 |
| ogra | but feel free to try your luck :) | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'll ask him for the heck of it | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | I *knew* I shoulda put that in the first patch | 09:43 |
| yotux | Sorry to ask but what is the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu | 09:43 |
| ogra | yotux, educational apps, different artwork, ltsp integration and setup out of the box | 09:44 |
| yotux | so support for thin clients :) | 09:45 |
| ogra | yep | 09:45 |
| yotux | Thankz ogra -- setting up thin client network so this should help | 09:47 |
| ogra | take a server with two network cards and everything will just work after install :) | 09:48 |
| yotux | is 64bit still a little unmature? | 09:48 |
| yotux | software is mostly 32bit at the present I think | 09:49 |
| ogra | well, its mature but things like flash dont exists for it ... | 09:49 |
| yotux | sounds like 32bit is the way to go some user love flash :( | 09:49 |
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| ogra | its not impossible to set t up on amd64 but 32bit is the easiest | 09:50 |
| yotux | I'll chose 32bit and toy around with 64 in vmware | 09:51 |
| yotux | thankz for the assistance :) | 09:52 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: so should I assume gartoon for the icon theme? | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | or would something more neutral be better like Tango | 09:54 |
| ogra | why do you ned to assume an icon theme at all ? | 09:54 |
| ogra | if you put your own icons in that doesnt matter | 09:54 |
| LaserJock | well, if we're gooing to ship the icons | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | I'm saying that I can't find existing system-installed icons for all the categories | 09:55 |
| ogra | we'll ship them in /usr/share/app-install/icons/ | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | so I'm going to go find some | 09:55 |
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| ogra | there is no themeing in /usr/share/app-install/icons/ | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | and I'm saying what kind of "look" should I be shooting for | 09:56 |
| ogra | aaah | 09:56 |
| ogra | yeah, gartoom or something like that | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | sorry, I probably said it badly | 09:56 |
| ogra | *gartoon | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | hmm, did we fix the default homepage in edubuntu-artwork? | 09:57 |
| ogra | something colorful cartoonish if you find ... | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | seems like last I saw it still said 7.04 on it | 09:57 |
| ogra | looks like | 09:57 |
| ogra | 7.04, yeah | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | ok, well I'll fix that too | 09:57 |
| sbalneav | Hey, by the way, Edubuntu handbook doesn't show up on main screen of yelp anymore :( | 09:58 |
| sbalneav | Wahhh | 09:58 |
| ogra | did it every ? | 09:58 |
| ogra | *ever | 09:58 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | well, *all* the Ubuntu changes to the yelp front page got zapped | 09:58 |
| ogra | i thought it didnt in feisty | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | mdke is working on it | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | ogra: it was in the left sidebar | 09:58 |
| sbalneav | right | 09:58 |
| ogra | ah | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | yelp is a very... unhelpful app | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | you have to hard-code all of that | 09:59 |
| sbalneav | Unyelpful? | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | with some sort of unique code | 09:59 |
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| LaserJock | heh | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | you'd think "put this doc here" wouldn't be a problem | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | anyway, I *think* it should get fixed soonish | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | and I hope the handbook get's included | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | ogra: what ever happened with the About Ubuntu/About Edubuntu icon thing? | 10:01 |
| ogra | missed | 10:01 |
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| ogra | i wanted to sit down with seb over it, we didnt manage to | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | was seb128 supposed to work on that or was that on our end? | 10:02 |
| ogra | neither | 10:02 |
| ogra | we didnt work out a fix yet | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | k | 10:02 |
| ogra | will put it on top of the list for boston | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | I just wanted to make sure I wasn't supposed to fix it :-) | 10:03 |
| ogra | you arent *supposed* to fix anything :) | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | nothing like having everybody waiting on you when you don't know it :-0 | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | bah, *required* then? | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 10:04 |
| ogra | if you *would have said* you would fix it, i'd probably poke :) | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | true | 10:04 |
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| LaserJock | yes | 10:05 |
| ogra | i mean now, before finishing my day :) | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | I love it when people ask for lists of things #ubuntu-devel | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | "where is the list of every change since Feisty"? | 10:06 |
| ogra | heh | 10:06 |
| ogra | soo ... | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | the new LDM | 10:07 |
| LaserJock | that's a cool one | 10:07 |
| sbalneav | Multi-server | 10:07 |
| ogra | - completely new ltsp architecture, based on compressed images | 10:07 |
| ogra | - new ldm with: | 10:07 |
| sbalneav | Updated handbook | 10:07 |
| ogra | error reporting | 10:07 |
| ogra | multi server | 10:08 |
| sbalneav | new versions of top quality education applets. | 10:08 |
| sbalneav | bugs fixed. | 10:08 |
| ogra | themes for all *buntu flavours | 10:08 |
| sbalneav | world saved | 10:08 |
| ogra | improved security | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | peace on earth | 10:08 |
| ogra | unencrypted graphics transport | 10:08 |
| sbalneav | And a partridge in a pear tree. | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: heh, I don't think we are helping | 10:08 |
| ogra | ah, come on , i'm trying to get a serious list :) | 10:08 |
| ogra | autologin ! | 10:09 |
| sbalneav | Fixed sabayon | 10:09 |
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| ogra | well, we dont ship it | 10:09 |
| sbalneav | 'Improved desktop management apps" | 10:09 |
| ogra | i dont think i can mention that | 10:09 |
| LaserJock | easier installtion of additional education applications? | 10:09 |
| ogra | yeah, 'Improved desktop management apps" s good | 10:09 |
| ogra | right, improved addon CD | 10:10 |
| ogra | did you hear anything from pitti ? | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | on moodle? | 10:10 |
| ogra | "includes gobby ! the collaborative editor for free!!" | 10:10 |
| ogra | yeah, on moodle | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | no | 10:10 |
| ogra | hmm | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | I gave him a hint last night | 10:10 |
| LaserJock | but I haven't seen anything last night | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | you might have a better chance | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | I know I made him cry when I asked him to do it ;-) | 10:11 |
| ogra | i'll ping him tomorow | 10:11 |
| sbalneav | we need an "edubuntu-calendar" package. With tastefully done art pictures of me and ogra. | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | lol!! | 10:12 |
| sbalneav | I can be the widescreen desktop! | 10:12 |
| ogra | yeah ! | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | I want a pic of sbalneav and jammc with "The only thing thin about LTSP is the clients" :-) | 10:12 |
| sbalneav | That's my favorite tag line. | 10:13 |
| sbalneav | Hey, I came up with another saying the other day, that if you goggle it, comes up with no hits. | 10:13 |
| sbalneav | I've invented a new saying! | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 10:13 |
| sbalneav | "All roads lead to worn out shoes" :) | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | leave it to the Canuks ;-) | 10:14 |
| sbalneav | ogra: got enough for a list now? :) | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | hmm, how'd we do on specs? | 10:15 |
| ogra | yeah, trying to get it in the right format now | 10:16 |
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| LaserJock | bzr just about gave me a heart attack | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | I couldn't find the app-install.sh script debian-cd and thought that maybe it got removed for some reason | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | but I accidently had bzr remove it apparently so a bzr revert brought it back | 10:30 |
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| sbalneav | SCCS for the win | 11:01 |
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| joebob777as7 | hey how do i change the password length minimum? | 12:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | iirc /etc/security/ somwhere | 12:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | afk. work | 12:09 |
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| joebob777as7 | why isn't wine a package in ubuntu? | 12:25 |
| joebob777as7 | *edubuntu | 12:27 |
| Burgundavia | it is | 12:28 |
| JordanC | joebob777as7: Because we don't advocate underage drinking :> | 12:28 |
| joebob777as7 | oh gotcha... how silly of me :P | 12:29 |
| joebob777as7 | hey how do i change the password length minimum? | 12:49 |
| JordanC | err... in what ? | 12:50 |
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