[01:56] <mattyboy> hello
[02:48] <sbalneav> Evening all
[02:49] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[04:29] <joebob777as7> is there an easy way to make it so no users can see other user's documents?
[05:01] <sbalneav> joebob777as7: Set up a shared directory
[06:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> joebob777as7, set home dirs to 700
[06:22] <joebob777as7> Kamping_Kaiser, is there a way to make all future home dirs 700?
[06:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> joebob777as7, look at /etc/adduser.conf (if you add users with adduser)
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> # If DIR_MODE is set, directories will be created with the specified
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> # mode. Otherwise the default mode 0755 will be used.
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> DIR_MODE=0755
[06:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> personally i like 701, i find 755 a little silly
[06:26] <joebob777as7> Kamping_Kaiser, what will 701 do different than 700? sorry i'm still a little behind on the whole permissions thing too long using windows i'm afraid....
[06:27] <joebob777as7> so 700 will only allow user to see and modify his/her files?
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> joebob777as7, 700 only allows the user to see/edit files
[06:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> 701 allows only the user to see+edit files, but also allows applications to enter the home directory - its useful if you have apache and want peopels public_html directory read
[06:29] <joebob777as7> oh ok thx a ton!
[06:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> np
[06:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hope it helps, i'm off :)
[12:25] <JenZbe> is somebody here using edubuntu in a school (client-server environment)?
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> a number are
[12:29] <JenZbe> any1 have any tips or guides on the net
[12:29] <JenZbe> i currently have all my students and teachers on a W2k3-domain
[12:29] <JenZbe> but all the profiles are getting too big for my old server
[12:30] <JenZbe> so i wanna make it very simple and use (ed)ubuntu clients and only 2 accounts (teacher or pupil)
[12:31] <JenZbe> but i have no experience with an ubuntu-server
[12:31] <JenZbe> i want to have all the students use 1 account 'student' (no pwd) but they all have a seperate folder (pwd-protected) on a fileserver
[12:32] <JenZbe> + students have to be forbidden to make changes (like shortcuts, backgrounds, installations of prg's, ...
[12:33] <JenZbe> tnx! :)
[12:33] <JenZbe> how does the idea sound?
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure how feasable it will be to get only two accounts.
[12:36] <JenZbe> what does 'feasable' mean (i'm from belgium)
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> forbidding changes should be posible
[12:36] <JenZbe> that would be the easiest i think
[12:36] <JenZbe> yeah, with a really limited account-type
[12:36] <JenZbe> they only need internet and openoffice (writer)
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> unless its been superceded, sabayon and its ilk are probably what your after for locking down
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> um, feasable means roughly possible
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sp
[03:06] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:07] <sbalneav> ogra: Hey, found a bug in cdpinger, check my ltspfs-upstream tree.
[03:21] <RichEd> hey sbalneav
[03:21] <RichEd> ogra pushed until 5:40 am this morning ... he may be in late
[03:21] <sbalneav> Morning RichEd
[03:21] <sbalneav> Ah, busy day?  What was up?
[03:22] <RichEd> getting an image to intel for the classmate for IDF san francisco
[03:23] <sbalneav> Cool.
[03:58] <ogra> RichEd, i'm around since 4h already :)
[03:58] <RichEd> ogra :)
[03:59] <ogra> sbalneav, did you get my ping about the server sizing page in the handbbok yesterday ?
[03:59] <ogra> *handbook
[03:59] <RichEd> glad he got the USB sticks ... a lot easier
[03:59] <sbalneav> Yes I did.
[03:59] <ogra> yeah
[03:59] <ogra> well
[03:59] <sbalneav> I'll bump it up today.
[03:59] <ogra> a lot of wasted time on all sides the last days
[03:59] <ogra> sbalneav, thanks :)
[04:00] <nubae> hi... am getting a problem that I'm unsure about when I try to apt-get update:
[04:00] <nubae> Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_US
[04:00] <nubae>   Could not connect to es.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (150.214.5.135). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:00] <nubae> my entire sources.list gets that
[04:00] <sbalneav> Also, we're missing a feature in configure-x.sh.  We need a way to pass X Options to the driver, so we can say X_OPTION_01 = "NoAccel".  I'll add that tonight.
[04:00] <ogra> can you ping es.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[04:00] <nubae> and I have access to the internet and port 80 without problems... looked on the net for some helpful info, without luck
[04:00] <nubae> yes
[04:01] <ogra> sbalneav, sounds great ... dont forget in two days we'll have beta freeze
[04:01] <nubae> actually no, not that one... still there are more sources in there
[04:03] <nubae> I can ping packages.medibuntu.org which is in my sources.list
[04:03] <nubae> but get: Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.198.37.77). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 88.198.37.77 80] 
[04:03] <nubae> when using apt-get
[04:05] <nubae> thought maybe it was squid, but get the same error with it off, and checked my firewall rules (makes no sense since I can get there from a web browser)
[04:07] <nubae> ping archive.canonical.com works fine too... also in my sources.list
[04:13] <nubae> any ideas?
[04:14] <shriphani> sbalneav: I need an edubuntu special features list.
[04:14] <shriphani> I need to prepare for the presentation see.
[04:15] <RichEd> shriphani: let me send that presentation I owe you
[04:16] <bddebian> Heya
[04:53] <ogra> sbalneav, lol
[04:53] <ogra> sbalneav, did you ever have a look at the pictures they talk abut on the ML ? the page that makes the brosers crash ?
[04:53] <ogra> *browsers
[04:54] <ogra> i wonder if we really need to cover such crap or even waste thoughts on it ...
[04:54] <ogra> (every of these gallery pages has at least 30M of graphics)
[05:00] <RichEd> ogra: I was wondering why i got an admin mail saying "too large"
[05:00] <RichEd> next time I'll check more carefully before I release such sh!t^
[05:00] <ogra> RichEd, ?
[05:01] <RichEd> are you talking about a mail to the edubuntu-users list ?
[05:01] <ogra> i was talking about the url that makes thin clients freeze due to firefox's pxmap cache usage
[05:01] <RichEd> oh ... sorry :) crossed wires
[05:01] <ogra> "tips for Opera users" is the thread
[05:02] <ogra> even though it had several names alrady, its an ongoing moaning :)
[05:02] <nubae> what are your comments on that being an error not related to just firefox?
[05:02] <nubae> cause lately its been attributed to openoffice, firefox, totem, vlc, etc etc
[05:02] <ogra> nubae, well, putting up a website with 15 jpegs each 1.2M on the frontpage is just evil
[05:03] <ogra> and people wonder why it takes hours to load
[05:03] <nubae> I agree, they're on thin clients for a reason :-)
[05:03] <nubae> I dont get the issue, but have lots of ram so...
[05:03] <ogra> nubae, well, nobody has seen it in the past
[05:04] <nubae> just seems like could turn into a troll...
[05:04] <ogra> and to be honest i dont see it here with oo.o or anything apart from firefox with this specific site
[05:04] <nubae> the latest mails are talking about it affecting X in general
[05:05] <ogra> well, jim broght the right explanation ... its a communication prob ... sadly none *we* can solve ...
[05:05] <ogra> (jim mc quillian)
[05:06] <nubae> well, theres a lot of people with a good knowledge of linux and ubuntu so people are sure to mine the depths for explanations :-)
[05:06] <nubae> thats not always a good thing imho
[05:06] <HigH5> Hello, I'm configuring a LTSP server with Ubuntu 7.04. I managed to build it, but I can't figure out how to create users to log in on the terminals. Can anybody tell me how to do it?
[05:07] <nubae> I'm still stuck with this damn apt-get problem... what log files should I look in, I've looked at syslog, dmesg, messages and cant find any sign of what could be causing this failure
[05:08] <nubae> HigH5, the easiest solution I found was using smbldap-installer
[05:08] <nubae> unless u dont need to serve using ldap or samba
[05:08] <HigH5> No, I don't need those two.
[05:08] <nubae> then just adduser
[05:09] <HigH5> Thru GUI?
[05:09] <nubae> in edubuntu there is a gui
[05:09] <nubae> under system -> Administration
[05:09] <ogra> HigH5, its in the system menu "user and groups"
[05:09] <HigH5> Is there a package of it for plain ubuntu?
[05:10] <nubae> good question :-)
[05:10] <ogra> its in the default install ... the package is gnome-system-tools
[05:10] <HigH5> I already did that, but it didn't help.
[05:10] <ogra> HigH5, so what do you see if you try to log in ?
[05:10] <ogra> whats the error/erratic behavior
[05:11] <HigH5> It tried to log in but then it restarted the X server
[05:11] <ogra> try running: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and the try again
[05:12] <ogra> if that doesnt help, look in the ~/.xsession-errors file of the user you tried with
[05:13] <ogra> it should give an indicatore whats wrong
[05:14] <ogra> *indicator
[05:16] <HigH5> Ok, thanks. I'll try to do that.
[05:17] <ogra> did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall for installation ?
[05:20] <HigH5> Yup, it went smoothly.
[05:27] <nubae> how do I refresh /etc/exports?
[05:33] <ogra> restart nfs-kernel-server ?
[06:28] <shriphani> ogra: ?
[06:29] <shriphani> or anyone for that matter?
[06:30] <sbalneav> shriphani: yes?
[06:30] <shriphani> We have a potential convert here.
[06:30] <shriphani> prolly one of the first schools in india.
[06:31] <shriphani> I got another appointment. Two schools have shown interest already.
[06:31] <shriphani> and I (slowly).. called myself edubuntu representative........
[06:32] <shriphani> did I do anything wrong ?
[06:32] <sbalneav> Yes.
[06:32] <shriphani> calling myself edubuntu repr. ?
[06:33] <sbalneav> Well, ARE you?  In any official capacity?
[06:33] <shriphani> err.. just kidding. I didn't call myself anything.
[06:33] <shriphani> honest. I called myself a repr. of the local lug.
[06:34] <sbalneav> You can call yourself whatever the heck you like.  President of the known universe, if you like.
[06:34] <shriphani> :)
[06:34] <sbalneav> However, one day, someone's going to check up on your "title", somewhere.
[06:35] <shriphani> well as I said, I didn't advert. myself as edubuntu repr.
[06:35] <sbalneav> And if they find out you've been representing yourself as something your not, they're going to realize you're a liar.
[06:36] <sbalneav> How can I trust you? You said you did, now you say you didn't.  See my problem?
[06:36] <shriphani> hmm.....
[06:36] <sbalneav> Now, I don't care, personally, it doesn't affect me.
[06:37] <sbalneav> But,  lets just say a representitive of some Indian school board wanders into IRC to check things out...
[06:38] <shriphani> well... I didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr........ I just wanted to see the reaction...
[06:38] <sbalneav> and he or she says.. "Your representitive shriphani was here the other day, and we were really impressed with him".  I'm gonna have to say, "He's not our representitive"
[06:38] <sbalneav> What's that going to do for your hard work, you figure?
[06:38] <shriphani> yeah..... :) I repeat didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr.
[06:39] <sbalneav> So, in other words, you're just telling stories to see if you can get a rise out of me?
[06:39] <shriphani> err.... umm....
[06:39] <sbalneav> Dude, here's some advice.
[06:41] <sbalneav> Whn you find you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging.
[06:45] <shriphani> well umm is that the end of all hard feelings ?
[06:54] <sbalneav> I have none.
[06:54] <sbalneav> Like I say, it's not affecting me.
[06:54] <sbalneav> :)
[06:55] <LaserJock> morning sbalneav
[06:55] <sbalneav> Morning LaserJock!
[06:56] <shriphani> I thought it would be a nice joke...... the rxn came as a shock......
[06:57] <sbalneav> I'm just trying to save YOU some embarrasment.
[06:58] <shriphani> well umm if thats the end of this... where do I find jpeg logos of edubuntu ? I can only see svg everywhere.........
[06:59] <sbalneav> Well, take an svg logo, load it into Gimp, and save it as a jpg.
[06:59] <sbalneav> svg's are usually what's distributed, because they're scalable.
[06:59] <shriphani> can I embed svg into a odp ?
[06:59] <shriphani> an odp ^
[07:00] <LaserJock> you'd probably have better luck converting it to a png
[07:00] <sbalneav> Don't know off the top of my head.  Try and see.
[07:01] <sbalneav> Headin' out for lunch, gotta run off to the bank.  I'll be back in an hour.
[07:01] <sbalneav> afk
[07:07] <ogra> LaserJock, hey
[07:13] <shriphani> I cannot print large enough to read. I have a C3180 HP all in one printer . I need instructions to find and install fonts for my printer. <------ one of the projects on launchpad.
[07:27] <sbalneav> back
[08:08] <joebob777as7> hey i'm running gutsy and updated last night a brand new install and now when i log in nothing get's displayed aside from the wallpaper... can someone give me a hand?
[08:18] <LaserJock> ogra: hi
[08:21] <ogra> LaserJock, had a chance to try the classmate image ?
[08:21] <ogra> i didnt have a chance to download any check if my splitting/merging for uploading didnt break everything
[08:21] <ogra> s/any/and
[08:21] <juliux> hi all
[08:22] <LaserJock> I haven't yet
[08:22] <LaserJock> I left it to download overnight
[08:22] <LaserJock> as I had to go to bed
[08:22] <juliux> ogra, sorry i forget testing the image from last friday, should i test a new one?
[08:22] <LaserJock> ogra: so I need to have a 2GB USB stick and just boot off of that?
[08:22] <ogra> yeah, its quite huge, dont tell me :9
[08:22] <ogra> juliux, indeed
[08:23] <juliux> ogra, any problems with quad ethernet cards?
[08:23] <ogra> LaserJock, yup, its using /dev/dcs hardcoded everywhere
[08:23] <ogra> *sdc
[08:23] <LaserJock> ugg
[08:23] <juliux> ogra, ok i will download the daily from today
[08:23] <LaserJock> ok, that works ok. I do have a 2GB stick
[08:23] <ogra> juliux, i dont have one, so i dont have probs with them :P
[08:23] <juliux> ogra, ok i will test this also;9
[08:23] <ogra> juliux, no idea :) try it and report back :)
[08:24] <juliux> i will do so
[08:24] <juliux> but now i will download the daily from today;9
[08:25] <ogra> dont even bother to try the liveCD
[08:25] <ogra> it wont boot atm
[08:25] <LaserJock> my gosh, 721MB
[08:25] <juliux> ogra, ohhh
[08:25] <ogra> not a size issue :)
[08:26] <LaserJock> the diff between amd64 and i386 on the DesktopCD is 40MB
[08:26] <ogra> yeah
[08:26] <ogra> we're all waiting for oo.o to become sane again
[08:26] <LaserJock> hehe, we could always kick it off ;-)
[08:26] <juliux> hm is there an other iso i can download?
[08:27] <LaserJock> wow 737 on server i386
[08:27] <LaserJock> can they shave off 37MB from OO.o?
[08:27] <ogra> i think the ooo breakage pulls in 20-30M
[08:27] <LaserJock> k
[08:28] <ogra> but there are no definitive numbers anywhere so we'll have to wait
[08:28] <LaserJock> I guess it'll all have to come down before Beta
[08:28] <LaserJock> ogra: I poked pitti about moodle
[08:28] <ogra> seems for compiz support for ltsp we'd need libgl1-mesa-dri on the CD as well :/
[08:29] <ogra> thats ^6M
[08:29] <ogra> 16
[08:29] <LaserJock> ugg
[08:29] <ogra> yeah
[08:30] <ogra> mesa changed a lot in gutsy
[08:30] <ogra> so currently we could easily support compiz out of the box in ltsp but would need to drop something from -server
[08:31] <LaserJock> could we put it on Addon somehow?
[08:31] <ogra> no
[08:31] <ogra> its either an ltsp-client dep or not
[08:31] <LaserJock> oh right, client
[08:31] <ogra> yep
[08:31] <LaserJock> we should have an edubuntu-bling package :-)
[08:31] <ogra> currently we dont install any GL support in ltsp due to the missing -dri
[08:32] <ogra> which is not really good
[08:32] <LaserJock> right
[08:32] <LaserJock> 16MB though is a lot
[08:32] <ogra> yep
[08:32] <ogra> just for some intel users
[08:33] <ogra> which are pretty rarae
[08:33] <LaserJock> so we'd have to drop quite a bit of Ubuntu or Edu stuff
[08:33] <ogra> or a language
[08:34] <ogra> portuguese is on my list already if ooo doesnt drop enough
[08:45] <sbalneav> I'd say the simplest would be just to document how to add it in the handbook.
[08:45] <LaserJock> yes
[08:46] <LaserJock> I think maybe if we documented some things more it'd help
[08:46] <LaserJock> ogra: what about the edu stuff?
[08:46] <ogra> sbalneav, and break GL completely ?
[08:47] <LaserJock> I tend to think it's confusing to have some edu stuff on one CD and some on another
[08:47] <ogra> thats true
[08:47] <ogra> did you say you wrote something about that ?
[08:47] <ogra> *didnt
[08:48] <JordanC> Hey there!
[08:48] <JordanC> hi ogra :-)
[08:48] <ogra> sbalneav, its a regression and the only reason for having it is limited CD space of edubuntu ... i dont even think thats a valid reason to keep it out of ltsp
[08:48] <JordanC> no edubuntu forum? :-O
[08:49] <ogra> all former versions supported GL in ltsp out of the box
[08:49] <ogra> JordanC, i think there was an education subsection somewhere in the ubuntu forums (not sure though, i never read forums)
[08:50] <JordanC> Hmm
[08:50] <JordanC> I wanted to help out, anyway
[08:51] <LaserJock> JordanC: yes, there is the Education & Science subforum on ubuntuforums.org
[08:51] <LaserJock> it's not Edubuntu specific but it gets talked about a fair amount there
[08:51] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[08:52] <JordanC> Word :-)
[08:52] <LaserJock> hi Corey
[08:54] <LaserJock> argg, Beta is coming too fast :(
[09:05] <juliux> ogra, now i have something for a real ltsp test;) my quad ethernet card is working;) so i have 4x 100mbit
[09:06] <ogra> nice
[09:17] <joebob777as7> if i install a nautilus script where does it install to?
[09:30] <LaserJock> ogra: do you know much about icons?
[09:31] <ogra> a bit, why ?
[09:32] <LaserJock> well, I'm trying to figure out what to do with the Addon Cd thing
[09:32] <LaserJock> how do I know what icons I can choose from?
[09:33] <LaserJock> it seems like that would greatly vary depending on what icon theme the user has
[09:34] <ogra> hmm
[09:34] <ogra> if you prefix them with edubuntu- you can do what you want :)
[09:34] <ogra> they need to be in the fallback theme (not sure thats still hicolor)
[09:34] <LaserJock> well
[09:35] <LaserJock> I was trying to do it without having to patch debian-cd again
[09:35] <LaserJock> i.e. using what's on the user's system rather than having to add the icons to the CD
[09:35] <ogra> well, your .desktop files contain icon names, right ?
[09:35] <LaserJock> yes
[09:36] <ogra> and they are in the -data package, no ?
[09:36] <LaserJock> the .directory files are
[09:36] <ogra> and they define the icon names ?
[09:36] <LaserJock> but I'd have to patch debian-cd to install icons onto the CD
[09:37] <LaserJock> yes
[09:37] <LaserJock> right now they use package_edutainment
[09:37] <ogra> and where dos this get its icon from ?
[09:37] <ogra> i saw they are all the little chalkboard
[09:38] <yotux> have a question about ltsp
[09:38] <joebob777as7> yotux, say it
[09:38] <yotux> in feisty is a complete os install for the chroot environment?
[09:38] <LaserJock> they are from the system icons
[09:38] <ogra> from gtk ?
[09:39] <LaserJock> mvo told me it'll fall back to /usr/share/app-install/icons/ if it can't find them
[09:39] <LaserJock> yeah, the user's gtk icon selection
[09:39] <ogra> yotux, its a basic system, a kernel, X and a login manager as well as some small helpers for sound and local device support
[09:39] <yotux> So the mirrors for ubuntu are not being used correct its all local network
[09:40] <ogra> LaserJock, well, then we put your icons into edubuntu-artwork and it installs them to /usr/share/app-install/icons/
[09:40] <ogra> trivial
[09:41] <LaserJock> hmm, that should work for now
[09:41] <LaserJock> hmm, or should I bug cjwatson for a patch to debian-cd?
[09:42] <LaserJock> I just don't know how readily he'll take patches this late in development
[09:42] <ogra> right
[09:42] <ogra> thats why i suggested to have it simply in the icons
[09:42] <ogra> but feel free to try your luck :)
[09:43] <LaserJock> ok, I'll ask him for the heck of it
[09:43] <LaserJock> I *knew* I shoulda put that in the first patch
[09:43] <yotux> Sorry to ask but what is the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu
[09:44] <ogra> yotux, educational apps, different artwork, ltsp integration and setup out of the box
[09:45] <yotux> so support for thin clients :)
[09:45] <ogra> yep
[09:47] <yotux> Thankz ogra -- setting up thin client network so this should help
[09:48] <ogra> take a server with two network cards and everything will just work after install :)
[09:48] <yotux> is 64bit still a little unmature?
[09:49] <yotux> software is mostly 32bit at the present I think
[09:49] <ogra> well, its mature but things like flash dont exists for it ...
[09:49] <yotux> sounds like 32bit is the way to go some user love flash :(
[09:50] <ogra> its not impossible to set t up on amd64 but 32bit is the easiest
[09:51] <yotux> I'll chose 32bit and toy around with 64 in vmware
[09:52] <yotux> thankz for the assistance :)
[09:53] <LaserJock> ogra: so should I assume gartoon for the icon theme?
[09:54] <LaserJock> or would something more neutral be better like Tango
[09:54] <ogra> why do you ned to assume an icon theme at all ?
[09:54] <ogra> if you put your own icons in that doesnt matter
[09:55] <LaserJock> well, if we're gooing to ship the icons
[09:55] <LaserJock> I'm saying that I can't find existing system-installed icons for all the categories
[09:55] <ogra> we'll ship them in /usr/share/app-install/icons/
[09:55] <LaserJock> so I'm going to go find some
[09:55] <ogra> there is no themeing in /usr/share/app-install/icons/
[09:56] <LaserJock> and I'm saying what kind of "look" should I be shooting for
[09:56] <ogra> aaah
[09:56] <ogra> yeah, gartoom or something like that
[09:56] <LaserJock> sorry, I probably said it badly
[09:56] <ogra> *gartoon
[09:57] <LaserJock> hmm, did we fix the default homepage in edubuntu-artwork?
[09:57] <ogra> something colorful cartoonish if you find ...
[09:57] <LaserJock> seems like last I saw it still said 7.04 on it
[09:57] <ogra> looks like
[09:57] <ogra> 7.04, yeah
[09:57] <LaserJock> ok, well I'll fix that too
[09:58] <sbalneav> Hey, by the way, Edubuntu handbook doesn't show up on main screen of yelp anymore :(
[09:58] <sbalneav> Wahhh
[09:58] <ogra> did it every ?
[09:58] <ogra> *ever
[09:58] <sbalneav> yeah
[09:58] <LaserJock> well, *all* the Ubuntu changes to the yelp front page got zapped
[09:58] <ogra> i thought it didnt in feisty
[09:58] <LaserJock> mdke is working on it
[09:58] <LaserJock> ogra: it was in the left sidebar
[09:58] <sbalneav> right
[09:59] <ogra> ah
[09:59] <LaserJock> yelp is a very... unhelpful app
[09:59] <LaserJock> you have to hard-code all of that
[09:59] <sbalneav> Unyelpful?
[09:59] <LaserJock> with some sort of unique code
[09:59] <LaserJock> heh
[10:00] <LaserJock> you'd think "put this doc here" wouldn't be a problem
[10:00] <LaserJock> anyway, I *think* it should get fixed soonish
[10:00] <LaserJock> and I hope the handbook get's included
[10:01] <LaserJock> ogra: what ever happened with the About Ubuntu/About Edubuntu icon thing?
[10:01] <ogra> missed
[10:02] <ogra> i wanted to sit down with seb over it, we didnt manage to
[10:02] <LaserJock> was seb128 supposed to work on that or was that on our end?
[10:02] <ogra> neither
[10:02] <ogra> we didnt work out a fix yet
[10:02] <LaserJock> k
[10:03] <ogra> will put it on top of the list for boston
[10:03] <LaserJock> I just wanted to make sure I wasn't supposed to fix it :-)
[10:03] <ogra> you arent *supposed* to fix anything :)
[10:03] <LaserJock> nothing like having everybody waiting on you when you don't know it :-0
[10:04] <LaserJock> bah, *required* then?
[10:04] <LaserJock> ;-)
[10:04] <ogra> if you *would have said* you would fix it, i'd probably poke :)
[10:04] <LaserJock> true
[10:05] <LaserJock> yes
[10:06] <ogra> i mean now, before finishing my day :)
[10:06] <LaserJock> I love it when people ask for lists of things #ubuntu-devel
[10:06] <LaserJock> "where is the list of every change since Feisty"?
[10:06] <ogra> heh
[10:06] <ogra> soo ...
[10:06] <LaserJock> hmm
[10:07] <LaserJock> the new LDM
[10:07] <LaserJock> that's a cool one
[10:07] <sbalneav> Multi-server
[10:07] <ogra> - completely new ltsp architecture, based on compressed images
[10:07] <ogra> - new ldm with:
[10:07] <sbalneav> Updated handbook
[10:07] <ogra> error reporting
[10:08] <ogra> multi server
[10:08] <sbalneav> new versions of top quality education applets.
[10:08] <sbalneav> bugs fixed.
[10:08] <ogra> themes for all *buntu flavours
[10:08] <sbalneav> world saved
[10:08] <ogra> improved security
[10:08] <LaserJock> peace on earth
[10:08] <ogra> unencrypted graphics transport
[10:08] <sbalneav> And a partridge in a pear tree.
[10:08] <LaserJock> sbalneav: heh, I don't think we are helping
[10:08] <ogra> ah, come on , i'm trying to get a serious list :)
[10:09] <ogra> autologin !
[10:09] <sbalneav> Fixed sabayon
[10:09] <ogra> well, we dont ship it
[10:09] <sbalneav> 'Improved desktop management apps"
[10:09] <ogra> i dont think i can mention that
[10:09] <LaserJock> easier installtion of additional education applications?
[10:09] <ogra> yeah,  'Improved desktop management apps" s good
[10:10] <ogra> right, improved addon CD
[10:10] <ogra> did you hear anything from pitti ?
[10:10] <LaserJock> on moodle?
[10:10] <ogra> "includes gobby ! the collaborative editor for free!!"
[10:10] <ogra> yeah, on moodle
[10:10] <LaserJock> no
[10:10] <ogra> hmm
[10:10] <LaserJock> I gave him a hint last night
[10:11] <LaserJock> but I haven't seen anything last night
[10:11] <LaserJock> you might have a better chance
[10:11] <LaserJock> I know I made him cry when I asked him to do it ;-)
[10:11] <ogra> i'll ping him tomorow
[10:11] <sbalneav> we need an "edubuntu-calendar" package.  With tastefully done art pictures of me and ogra.
[10:12] <LaserJock> lol!!
[10:12] <sbalneav> I can be the widescreen desktop!
[10:12] <ogra> yeah !
[10:12] <LaserJock> I want a pic of sbalneav and jammc with "The only thing thin about LTSP is the clients" :-)
[10:13] <sbalneav> That's my favorite tag line.
[10:13] <sbalneav> Hey, I came up with another saying the other day, that if you goggle it, comes up with no hits.
[10:13] <sbalneav> I've invented a new saying!
[10:13] <LaserJock> sweet
[10:13] <sbalneav> "All roads lead to worn out shoes" :)
[10:14] <LaserJock> leave it to the Canuks ;-)
[10:14] <sbalneav> ogra: got enough for a list now? :)
[10:15] <LaserJock> hmm, how'd we do on specs?
[10:16] <ogra> yeah, trying to get it in the right format now
[10:29] <LaserJock> bzr just about gave me a heart attack
[10:30] <LaserJock> I couldn't find the app-install.sh script debian-cd and thought that maybe it got removed for some reason
[10:30] <LaserJock> but I accidently had bzr remove it apparently so a bzr revert brought it back
[11:01] <sbalneav> SCCS for the win
[12:07] <joebob777as7> hey how do i change the password length minimum?
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc /etc/security/ somwhere
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> afk. work
[12:25] <joebob777as7> why isn't wine a package in ubuntu?
[12:27] <joebob777as7> *edubuntu
[12:28] <Burgundavia> it is
[12:28] <JordanC> joebob777as7: Because we don't advocate underage drinking :>
[12:29] <joebob777as7> oh gotcha... how silly of me :P
[12:49] <joebob777as7> hey how do i change the password length minimum?
[12:50] <JordanC> err... in what ?