=== joebob777as7 [n=joe@71-220-219-65.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-128-117.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === mattyboy [n=chatzill@43-76.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:56] hello === mattyboy [n=chatzill@43-76.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === fox2k [i=Mh9BDeOo@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-189-95.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:48] Evening all === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:49] hi sbalneav === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [n=ubuntu@166-82-170-77.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === Banana [n=tchou@dump.fr] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-164-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7 [n=joe@71-220-219-65.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:29] is there an easy way to make it so no users can see other user's documents? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Mon Sep 10 15:33:06 2007 === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu [05:01] joebob777as7: Set up a shared directory === merriam_ is now known as merriam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === charlie_21 [n=charlie@213.sub-75-195-132.myvzw.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [06:21] joebob777as7, set home dirs to 700 [06:22] Kamping_Kaiser, is there a way to make all future home dirs 700? [06:23] joebob777as7, look at /etc/adduser.conf (if you add users with adduser) [06:24] # If DIR_MODE is set, directories will be created with the specified [06:24] # mode. Otherwise the default mode 0755 will be used. [06:24] DIR_MODE=0755 [06:25] personally i like 701, i find 755 a little silly [06:26] Kamping_Kaiser, what will 701 do different than 700? sorry i'm still a little behind on the whole permissions thing too long using windows i'm afraid.... [06:27] so 700 will only allow user to see and modify his/her files? [06:27] joebob777as7, 700 only allows the user to see/edit files [06:27] 701 allows only the user to see+edit files, but also allows applications to enter the home directory - its useful if you have apache and want peopels public_html directory read [06:29] oh ok thx a ton! [06:29] np [06:29] hope it helps, i'm off :) === boyam [n=ubuntu@166-82-170-77.quickclick.ctc.net] has left #edubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7 [n=joe@71-220-219-65.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === fox2k [i=esZmXocJ@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #edubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === geheim [n=Geheimer@p5B3E4866.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === geheim [n=Geheimer@p5B3E4866.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu ["Verlassend"] === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === shriphani [n=shriphan@219.91.188.167] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-82a1bc07bc7833d2] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-82a1bc07bc7833d2] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp167-152.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === JenZbe [n=info@31.240-241-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #edubuntu [12:25] is somebody here using edubuntu in a school (client-server environment)? [12:27] a number are [12:29] any1 have any tips or guides on the net [12:29] i currently have all my students and teachers on a W2k3-domain [12:29] but all the profiles are getting too big for my old server [12:30] so i wanna make it very simple and use (ed)ubuntu clients and only 2 accounts (teacher or pupil) [12:31] but i have no experience with an ubuntu-server [12:31] i want to have all the students use 1 account 'student' (no pwd) but they all have a seperate folder (pwd-protected) on a fileserver [12:32] + students have to be forbidden to make changes (like shortcuts, backgrounds, installations of prg's, ... === Kamping_Kaiser says good luck with it. [12:33] tnx! :) [12:33] how does the idea sound? [12:35] not sure how feasable it will be to get only two accounts. [12:36] what does 'feasable' mean (i'm from belgium) [12:36] forbidding changes should be posible [12:36] that would be the easiest i think [12:36] yeah, with a really limited account-type [12:36] they only need internet and openoffice (writer) [12:38] unless its been superceded, sabayon and its ilk are probably what your after for locking down [12:38] um, feasable means roughly possible [12:38] *sp === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu === kslawson [n=admin@pro.crhs.sad28.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === sepoys [n=sepoys@mail.powers.com.br] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] Morning all [03:07] ogra: Hey, found a bug in cdpinger, check my ltspfs-upstream tree. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.101.235] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [03:21] hey sbalneav [03:21] ogra pushed until 5:40 am this morning ... he may be in late [03:21] Morning RichEd [03:21] Ah, busy day? What was up? [03:22] getting an image to intel for the classmate for IDF san francisco [03:23] Cool. === |Baby| is now known as Baby === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === nubae [n=nubae@10.Red-88-8-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:58] RichEd, i'm around since 4h already :) [03:58] ogra :) [03:59] sbalneav, did you get my ping about the server sizing page in the handbbok yesterday ? [03:59] *handbook [03:59] glad he got the USB sticks ... a lot easier [03:59] Yes I did. [03:59] yeah [03:59] well [03:59] I'll bump it up today. [03:59] a lot of wasted time on all sides the last days [03:59] sbalneav, thanks :) [04:00] hi... am getting a problem that I'm unsure about when I try to apt-get update: [04:00] Err http://es.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Translation-en_US [04:00] Could not connect to es.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (150.214.5.135). - connect (111 Connection refused) [04:00] my entire sources.list gets that [04:00] Also, we're missing a feature in configure-x.sh. We need a way to pass X Options to the driver, so we can say X_OPTION_01 = "NoAccel". I'll add that tonight. [04:00] can you ping es.archive.ubuntu.com ? [04:00] and I have access to the internet and port 80 without problems... looked on the net for some helpful info, without luck [04:00] yes [04:01] sbalneav, sounds great ... dont forget in two days we'll have beta freeze [04:01] actually no, not that one... still there are more sources in there [04:03] I can ping packages.medibuntu.org which is in my sources.list [04:03] but get: Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (88.198.37.77). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 88.198.37.77 80] [04:03] when using apt-get [04:05] thought maybe it was squid, but get the same error with it off, and checked my firewall rules (makes no sense since I can get there from a web browser) [04:07] ping archive.canonical.com works fine too... also in my sources.list [04:13] any ideas? [04:14] sbalneav: I need an edubuntu special features list. [04:14] I need to prepare for the presentation see. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:15] shriphani: let me send that presentation I owe you === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu [04:16] Heya === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #edubuntu ["Sto] === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95B8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === charlie_21 [n=charlie@251.sub-70-194-207.myvzw.com] has joined #edubuntu === nubae [n=nubae@10.Red-88-8-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === thedman [n=thedman@65-123-188-196.dia.static.frhs.org] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@A-57-107.cust.iol.ie] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.168.189] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-36-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [04:53] sbalneav, lol [04:53] sbalneav, did you ever have a look at the pictures they talk abut on the ML ? the page that makes the brosers crash ? [04:53] *browsers [04:54] i wonder if we really need to cover such crap or even waste thoughts on it ... [04:54] (every of these gallery pages has at least 30M of graphics) [05:00] ogra: I was wondering why i got an admin mail saying "too large" [05:00] next time I'll check more carefully before I release such sh!t^ [05:00] RichEd, ? [05:01] are you talking about a mail to the edubuntu-users list ? [05:01] i was talking about the url that makes thin clients freeze due to firefox's pxmap cache usage [05:01] oh ... sorry :) crossed wires [05:01] "tips for Opera users" is the thread [05:02] even though it had several names alrady, its an ongoing moaning :) [05:02] what are your comments on that being an error not related to just firefox? [05:02] cause lately its been attributed to openoffice, firefox, totem, vlc, etc etc [05:02] nubae, well, putting up a website with 15 jpegs each 1.2M on the frontpage is just evil [05:03] and people wonder why it takes hours to load [05:03] I agree, they're on thin clients for a reason :-) [05:03] I dont get the issue, but have lots of ram so... [05:03] nubae, well, nobody has seen it in the past [05:04] just seems like could turn into a troll... [05:04] and to be honest i dont see it here with oo.o or anything apart from firefox with this specific site [05:04] the latest mails are talking about it affecting X in general [05:05] well, jim broght the right explanation ... its a communication prob ... sadly none *we* can solve ... === HigH5 [n=martin@89.142.40.225] has joined #edubuntu [05:05] (jim mc quillian) [05:06] well, theres a lot of people with a good knowledge of linux and ubuntu so people are sure to mine the depths for explanations :-) [05:06] thats not always a good thing imho [05:06] Hello, I'm configuring a LTSP server with Ubuntu 7.04. I managed to build it, but I can't figure out how to create users to log in on the terminals. Can anybody tell me how to do it? [05:07] I'm still stuck with this damn apt-get problem... what log files should I look in, I've looked at syslog, dmesg, messages and cant find any sign of what could be causing this failure [05:08] HigH5, the easiest solution I found was using smbldap-installer [05:08] unless u dont need to serve using ldap or samba [05:08] No, I don't need those two. [05:08] then just adduser [05:09] Thru GUI? [05:09] in edubuntu there is a gui [05:09] under system -> Administration [05:09] HigH5, its in the system menu "user and groups" [05:09] Is there a package of it for plain ubuntu? [05:10] good question :-) [05:10] its in the default install ... the package is gnome-system-tools [05:10] I already did that, but it didn't help. [05:10] HigH5, so what do you see if you try to log in ? [05:10] whats the error/erratic behavior [05:11] It tried to log in but then it restarted the X server [05:11] try running: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys and the try again [05:12] if that doesnt help, look in the ~/.xsession-errors file of the user you tried with [05:13] it should give an indicatore whats wrong [05:14] *indicator [05:16] Ok, thanks. I'll try to do that. [05:17] did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall for installation ? [05:20] Yup, it went smoothly. [05:27] how do I refresh /etc/exports? [05:33] restart nfs-kernel-server ? === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has left #Edubuntu ["A] === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.244.152] has joined #edubuntu [06:28] ogra: ? [06:29] or anyone for that matter? === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AC14B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:30] shriphani: yes? === ogra_ is now known as ogra [06:30] We have a potential convert here. [06:30] prolly one of the first schools in india. [06:31] I got another appointment. Two schools have shown interest already. [06:31] and I (slowly).. called myself edubuntu representative........ [06:32] did I do anything wrong ? [06:32] Yes. [06:32] calling myself edubuntu repr. ? [06:33] Well, ARE you? In any official capacity? [06:33] err.. just kidding. I didn't call myself anything. [06:33] honest. I called myself a repr. of the local lug. [06:34] You can call yourself whatever the heck you like. President of the known universe, if you like. [06:34] :) [06:34] However, one day, someone's going to check up on your "title", somewhere. [06:35] well as I said, I didn't advert. myself as edubuntu repr. [06:35] And if they find out you've been representing yourself as something your not, they're going to realize you're a liar. [06:36] How can I trust you? You said you did, now you say you didn't. See my problem? [06:36] hmm..... [06:36] Now, I don't care, personally, it doesn't affect me. [06:37] But, lets just say a representitive of some Indian school board wanders into IRC to check things out... [06:38] well... I didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr........ I just wanted to see the reaction... [06:38] and he or she says.. "Your representitive shriphani was here the other day, and we were really impressed with him". I'm gonna have to say, "He's not our representitive" [06:38] What's that going to do for your hard work, you figure? [06:38] yeah..... :) I repeat didn't advert myself as edubuntu repr. [06:39] So, in other words, you're just telling stories to see if you can get a rise out of me? [06:39] err.... umm.... [06:39] Dude, here's some advice. [06:41] Whn you find you've dug yourself a hole, stop digging. [06:45] well umm is that the end of all hard feelings ? === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:54] I have none. [06:54] Like I say, it's not affecting me. [06:54] :) [06:55] morning sbalneav [06:55] Morning LaserJock! [06:56] I thought it would be a nice joke...... the rxn came as a shock...... [06:57] I'm just trying to save YOU some embarrasment. [06:58] well umm if thats the end of this... where do I find jpeg logos of edubuntu ? I can only see svg everywhere......... [06:59] Well, take an svg logo, load it into Gimp, and save it as a jpg. [06:59] svg's are usually what's distributed, because they're scalable. [06:59] can I embed svg into a odp ? [06:59] an odp ^ [07:00] you'd probably have better luck converting it to a png [07:00] Don't know off the top of my head. Try and see. [07:01] Headin' out for lunch, gotta run off to the bank. I'll be back in an hour. [07:01] afk === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu [07:07] LaserJock, hey [07:13] I cannot print large enough to read. I have a C3180 HP all in one printer . I need instructions to find and install fonts for my printer. <------ one of the projects on launchpad. [07:27] back === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === nubae [n=nubae@10.Red-88-8-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp167-152.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === Baby [n=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === superset1 [n=smarinel@adsl-70-230-93-182.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #edubuntu === joebob777as7 [n=joe@71-220-219-65.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:08] hey i'm running gutsy and updated last night a brand new install and now when i log in nothing get's displayed aside from the wallpaper... can someone give me a hand? === jessejazza [n=chatzill@host86-132-74-116.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:18] ogra: hi [08:21] LaserJock, had a chance to try the classmate image ? [08:21] i didnt have a chance to download any check if my splitting/merging for uploading didnt break everything [08:21] s/any/and [08:21] hi all [08:22] I haven't yet [08:22] I left it to download overnight [08:22] as I had to go to bed [08:22] ogra, sorry i forget testing the image from last friday, should i test a new one? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [08:22] ogra: so I need to have a 2GB USB stick and just boot off of that? [08:22] yeah, its quite huge, dont tell me :9 [08:22] juliux, indeed [08:23] ogra, any problems with quad ethernet cards? [08:23] LaserJock, yup, its using /dev/dcs hardcoded everywhere [08:23] *sdc [08:23] ugg [08:23] ogra, ok i will download the daily from today [08:23] ok, that works ok. I do have a 2GB stick [08:23] juliux, i dont have one, so i dont have probs with them :P [08:23] ogra, ok i will test this also;9 [08:23] juliux, no idea :) try it and report back :) [08:24] i will do so [08:24] but now i will download the daily from today;9 [08:25] dont even bother to try the liveCD [08:25] it wont boot atm [08:25] my gosh, 721MB [08:25] ogra, ohhh [08:25] not a size issue :) [08:26] the diff between amd64 and i386 on the DesktopCD is 40MB [08:26] yeah [08:26] we're all waiting for oo.o to become sane again [08:26] hehe, we could always kick it off ;-) [08:26] hm is there an other iso i can download? [08:27] wow 737 on server i386 [08:27] can they shave off 37MB from OO.o? [08:27] i think the ooo breakage pulls in 20-30M [08:27] k [08:28] but there are no definitive numbers anywhere so we'll have to wait [08:28] I guess it'll all have to come down before Beta [08:28] ogra: I poked pitti about moodle [08:28] seems for compiz support for ltsp we'd need libgl1-mesa-dri on the CD as well :/ [08:29] thats ^6M [08:29] 16 [08:29] ugg [08:29] yeah [08:30] mesa changed a lot in gutsy [08:30] so currently we could easily support compiz out of the box in ltsp but would need to drop something from -server [08:31] could we put it on Addon somehow? [08:31] no [08:31] its either an ltsp-client dep or not [08:31] oh right, client [08:31] yep [08:31] we should have an edubuntu-bling package :-) [08:31] currently we dont install any GL support in ltsp due to the missing -dri [08:32] which is not really good [08:32] right [08:32] 16MB though is a lot [08:32] yep [08:32] just for some intel users [08:33] which are pretty rarae [08:33] so we'd have to drop quite a bit of Ubuntu or Edu stuff [08:33] or a language [08:34] portuguese is on my list already if ooo doesnt drop enough === valles_ [n=valles@200.71.131.33] has joined #edubuntu [08:45] I'd say the simplest would be just to document how to add it in the handbook. [08:45] yes [08:46] I think maybe if we documented some things more it'd help [08:46] ogra: what about the edu stuff? [08:46] sbalneav, and break GL completely ? [08:47] I tend to think it's confusing to have some edu stuff on one CD and some on another [08:47] thats true [08:47] did you say you wrote something about that ? === JordanC [n=MasterPl@host86-130-148-93.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:47] *didnt [08:48] Hey there! [08:48] hi ogra :-) [08:48] sbalneav, its a regression and the only reason for having it is limited CD space of edubuntu ... i dont even think thats a valid reason to keep it out of ltsp [08:48] no edubuntu forum? :-O [08:49] all former versions supported GL in ltsp out of the box [08:49] JordanC, i think there was an education subsection somewhere in the ubuntu forums (not sure though, i never read forums) [08:50] Hmm [08:50] I wanted to help out, anyway === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [08:51] JordanC: yes, there is the Education & Science subforum on ubuntuforums.org [08:51] it's not Edubuntu specific but it gets talked about a fair amount there [08:51] hey LaserJock [08:52] Word :-) [08:52] hi Corey [08:54] argg, Beta is coming too fast :( === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:05] ogra, now i have something for a real ltsp test;) my quad ethernet card is working;) so i have 4x 100mbit [09:06] nice === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [09:17] if i install a nautilus script where does it install to? [09:30] ogra: do you know much about icons? [09:31] a bit, why ? [09:32] well, I'm trying to figure out what to do with the Addon Cd thing [09:32] how do I know what icons I can choose from? [09:33] it seems like that would greatly vary depending on what icon theme the user has [09:34] hmm [09:34] if you prefix them with edubuntu- you can do what you want :) [09:34] they need to be in the fallback theme (not sure thats still hicolor) [09:34] well [09:35] I was trying to do it without having to patch debian-cd again [09:35] i.e. using what's on the user's system rather than having to add the icons to the CD [09:35] well, your .desktop files contain icon names, right ? [09:35] yes [09:36] and they are in the -data package, no ? [09:36] the .directory files are [09:36] and they define the icon names ? [09:36] but I'd have to patch debian-cd to install icons onto the CD [09:37] yes [09:37] right now they use package_edutainment [09:37] and where dos this get its icon from ? [09:37] i saw they are all the little chalkboard === yotux [n=nathan@24-158-2-65.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:38] have a question about ltsp [09:38] yotux, say it [09:38] in feisty is a complete os install for the chroot environment? [09:38] they are from the system icons [09:38] from gtk ? [09:39] mvo told me it'll fall back to /usr/share/app-install/icons/ if it can't find them [09:39] yeah, the user's gtk icon selection [09:39] yotux, its a basic system, a kernel, X and a login manager as well as some small helpers for sound and local device support [09:39] So the mirrors for ubuntu are not being used correct its all local network [09:40] LaserJock, well, then we put your icons into edubuntu-artwork and it installs them to /usr/share/app-install/icons/ [09:40] trivial [09:41] hmm, that should work for now [09:41] hmm, or should I bug cjwatson for a patch to debian-cd? [09:42] I just don't know how readily he'll take patches this late in development [09:42] right [09:42] thats why i suggested to have it simply in the icons [09:42] but feel free to try your luck :) [09:43] ok, I'll ask him for the heck of it [09:43] I *knew* I shoulda put that in the first patch [09:43] Sorry to ask but what is the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu [09:44] yotux, educational apps, different artwork, ltsp integration and setup out of the box [09:45] so support for thin clients :) [09:45] yep [09:47] Thankz ogra -- setting up thin client network so this should help [09:48] take a server with two network cards and everything will just work after install :) [09:48] is 64bit still a little unmature? [09:49] software is mostly 32bit at the present I think [09:49] well, its mature but things like flash dont exists for it ... [09:49] sounds like 32bit is the way to go some user love flash :( === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu [09:50] its not impossible to set t up on amd64 but 32bit is the easiest [09:51] I'll chose 32bit and toy around with 64 in vmware [09:52] thankz for the assistance :) === kslawson [n=admin@pro.crhs.sad28.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [09:53] ogra: so should I assume gartoon for the icon theme? [09:54] or would something more neutral be better like Tango [09:54] why do you ned to assume an icon theme at all ? [09:54] if you put your own icons in that doesnt matter [09:55] well, if we're gooing to ship the icons [09:55] I'm saying that I can't find existing system-installed icons for all the categories [09:55] we'll ship them in /usr/share/app-install/icons/ [09:55] so I'm going to go find some === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp167-152.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #edubuntu [] [09:55] there is no themeing in /usr/share/app-install/icons/ [09:56] and I'm saying what kind of "look" should I be shooting for [09:56] aaah [09:56] yeah, gartoom or something like that [09:56] sorry, I probably said it badly [09:56] *gartoon [09:57] hmm, did we fix the default homepage in edubuntu-artwork? [09:57] something colorful cartoonish if you find ... [09:57] seems like last I saw it still said 7.04 on it [09:57] looks like [09:57] 7.04, yeah [09:57] ok, well I'll fix that too [09:58] Hey, by the way, Edubuntu handbook doesn't show up on main screen of yelp anymore :( [09:58] Wahhh [09:58] did it every ? [09:58] *ever [09:58] yeah [09:58] well, *all* the Ubuntu changes to the yelp front page got zapped [09:58] i thought it didnt in feisty [09:58] mdke is working on it [09:58] ogra: it was in the left sidebar [09:58] right [09:59] ah [09:59] yelp is a very... unhelpful app [09:59] you have to hard-code all of that [09:59] Unyelpful? [09:59] with some sort of unique code === sbalneav ducks [09:59] heh [10:00] you'd think "put this doc here" wouldn't be a problem [10:00] anyway, I *think* it should get fixed soonish [10:00] and I hope the handbook get's included [10:01] ogra: what ever happened with the About Ubuntu/About Edubuntu icon thing? [10:01] missed === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [10:02] i wanted to sit down with seb over it, we didnt manage to [10:02] was seb128 supposed to work on that or was that on our end? [10:02] neither [10:02] we didnt work out a fix yet [10:02] k [10:03] will put it on top of the list for boston [10:03] I just wanted to make sure I wasn't supposed to fix it :-) [10:03] you arent *supposed* to fix anything :) [10:03] nothing like having everybody waiting on you when you don't know it :-0 [10:04] bah, *required* then? [10:04] ;-) [10:04] if you *would have said* you would fix it, i'd probably poke :) [10:04] true === ogra needs to assemble a feature list for gutsy :( [10:05] yes [10:06] i mean now, before finishing my day :) [10:06] I love it when people ask for lists of things #ubuntu-devel [10:06] "where is the list of every change since Feisty"? [10:06] heh [10:06] soo ... [10:06] hmm [10:07] the new LDM [10:07] that's a cool one [10:07] Multi-server [10:07] - completely new ltsp architecture, based on compressed images [10:07] - new ldm with: [10:07] Updated handbook [10:07] error reporting [10:08] multi server [10:08] new versions of top quality education applets. [10:08] bugs fixed. [10:08] themes for all *buntu flavours [10:08] world saved [10:08] improved security [10:08] peace on earth [10:08] unencrypted graphics transport [10:08]