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ConstyXIVwhat exactly does apparmor accomplish?01:25
tanathsomeone had a problem running gnome appearance... now i do to01:26
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ConstyXIVis it a sort of "application jail" or something?01:26
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tanathhttp://pastebin.ca/70127801:27
_CitizenKane_hi all, is there a good way to stop strigi from autostarting?01:27
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tanathSys > Prefs > Sessions01:29
tanathanyone have a problem running gnome appearance?01:30
tanath(who's up-to-date)01:30
IntuitiveNippleI am, but what is it? :p01:31
IntuitiveNippleSystem > Preferences > Appearance?01:31
tanathIntuitiveNipple, run it from a terminal?01:31
tanathyeah01:31
IntuitiveNippleok, you want to see if I get those same errors?01:31
tanathyeh01:31
tanathyou completely up-to-date?01:31
IntuitiveNippleby the hour :p01:32
tanathlol01:32
tanathwell, i just upgraded a few more things a several mins ago01:32
IntuitiveNipplewell it starts okay, no signs if errors01:32
DShepherdConstyXIV, kinda..01:32
tanathhrm01:32
IntuitiveNipplewhat version do you have?01:32
tanathwas fine for me before, now broken01:32
DShepherdConstyXIV, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor .. for more info01:33
tanathuh, i don't know01:33
tanathapt-cache doesn't seem to know about it...01:33
IntuitiveNippleI have gnome-control-center Version: 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu201:34
IntuitiveNippledpkg-query -s gnome-control-center01:34
tanathVersion: 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu301:34
IntuitiveNippleahhh, you do have an update - not seen that yet01:35
tanathin that case, i recommend against it :P01:35
tanathnow my terminal and my gnome-appearance are broken01:35
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IntuitiveNippleahhh.. I think messing with the sources.list the other day seems to have affected the updater.  I just did a manual check and there's a bunch offered now01:36
IntuitiveNipplelol thanks for the warning :)01:37
IntuitiveNipplebetter post a bug pronto while you still can01:37
tanathheh01:37
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tanathi'm poking around to see what else is broken01:37
IntuitiveNippleI'm offered 83MB of updates01:37
IntuitiveNipplekernel image updates, grr. That means loads of my customisations have to be pulled off and put back after!01:38
IntuitiveNippleI think that can wait until tomorrow!01:39
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tanathanyone know how to use the 'nautilus actions' thingy?01:40
IntuitiveNippleactions?01:42
tanathSys > Prefs > Nautilus Actions Configuration01:43
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tanathmeh. don't think i need it01:43
IntuitiveNippleoh... I don't have that01:43
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tanaththen, Sys > Prefs > Main Menu, first01:44
darrenddoes anyone have trouble with compiz and 3d games?  I get blank screens (at best) or more usually, xorg server crashes01:44
darrendif I kill compiz first, I can play the games ok01:44
wfarranyone else have synaptic touchpad vertical scrolling stop working with the upgrade to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics01:44
tanathdarrend, prolly better to turn it off, rather than kill it :P01:45
tanathdarrend, there's a plugin in ccsm for workarounds. tried that?01:45
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IntuitiveNipplenope, don't have it01:46
IntuitiveNippledarrend: Using nvidia?01:46
darrendtanath: it's enabled, but i'd not looked at it before.. checking now01:46
darrendIntuitiveNipple: yes01:46
wfarrcan anyone else besides me confirm this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/140548 ?01:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140548 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "regression: touchpad special functions no longer function" [Undecided,Confirmed] 01:47
IntuitiveNippledarrend: It sounds like you may be affected by the nvidia/xorg ABI problem that affects most 3D apps atm01:47
darrendIntuitiveNipple: ok, i'll go look that one up, thx.01:48
darrendtanath: how do you turn it off w/o killing? (using xubuntu if it makes a difference)01:49
IntuitiveNippleI have the url here hang on01:49
IntuitiveNipplebug #13032501:49
tanathdarrend, it might. in gnome you can go to Sys > Prefs > Adv Desktop Effects01:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 130325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx]  3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13032501:49
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darrendIntuitiveNipple: thx, that seems to be it01:50
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tanathdarrend, actually, that's just ccsm... not the thing i was looking for...01:52
LeeJunFananyone else having problems with the open ATI drivers on gutsy taking up 100% cpu?01:54
IBGafter the last update i can't type in terminal anymore01:54
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yeagerare all terminals broken after the gnome 2.20.0 update?01:54
IBGwell i have a broken terminal01:55
DShepherdboot01:56
DShepherdooops01:56
yeagerhere a screenshot of gnome-terminal http://home.danielnylander.se/tmp/bugg2.png01:56
yeagerwell, i just wait for the next update01:56
AmyRoseDarn, the upgrader isn't working01:58
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tanathIBG, the text is just tiny ;)02:03
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IBG:)02:03
tanathIBG, can you open gnome-appearance?02:04
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IBGgnome-appearance-properties ?02:04
tanathi was gonna poke in there to change the default font, but i can't run it02:04
tanathyeh02:04
IBGi can open it02:05
tanaththen you didn't upgrade very recently :)02:05
ConstyXIVis there any way to get the deskbar to hang from the panel like it used to?02:05
tanathconsider yourself lucky02:05
tanathIBG, does playing with the fonts in there help?02:05
IBGbut i can't close it02:05
tanathlol02:05
tanathi can't open it, and you can't close it :p02:06
IntuitiveNippletanath: gconf-editor  and /desktop/gnome/interface02:06
tanathBad key or directory name: "and": Must begin with a slash (/)02:06
tanath:P02:06
ConstyXIVare today's updates broken or something?02:07
tanathyeh02:07
IntuitiveNippleno no no02:07
IntuitiveNippleopen gconf-editor02:07
tanathi beg to differ :P02:07
IntuitiveNipple*then* navigate to that key02:07
tanathIntuitiveNipple, i realized that :P02:07
IntuitiveNipplelol02:07
ConstyXIVwhat's wrong, so i know what to expect when it's finished?02:07
tanathIntuitiveNipple, after i pasted without looking, of course :D02:07
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IntuitiveNippletypical Ubuntu-er :p02:08
tanathterminal text is too tiny to see02:08
ConstyXIVoh, that's it?02:08
tanathgnome-appearance-properties won't open02:08
tanathxterm works though02:08
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davi_I have downloaded an VMware image of GutsyGibbonTribe502:09
tanathwell, should be using monospace 10...02:09
ConstyXIVubuntu being how it is, i really shouldn't need the terminal for a while anyways, and what i need i know by touch02:09
davi_The user is    ubuntu, and its password is ubuntu02:09
davi_But, what is the usual  root password?02:09
tanathuse sudo02:09
IBGthx for the tip tanath02:09
ConstyXIVdavi_: there is none, use sudo02:09
IBG;)02:09
d4rkmonkeydavi_ you don't need root password02:09
ConstyXIVdavi_: it's The Ubuntu Way (TM)02:10
davi_thanks tanath ConstyXIV & d4rkmonkey02:10
d4rkmonkeylol02:10
davi_:)02:10
tanathIntuitiveNipple, well, that didn't work02:12
IntuitiveNippleYou sure it's not something caused by your fiddling?02:12
tanathIntuitiveNipple, how would my fiddling affect everyone else's machines? :P02:13
tanathIntuitiveNipple, and what fiddling might that be?02:13
IntuitiveNippleI get the sense you like messing with settings :)02:13
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tanathIntuitiveNipple, i like customizing things :)02:13
IntuitiveNippleis that what you call it? lol02:14
tanathand learning02:14
IntuitiveNippleWhich package do you think is broken - I could install just that update and see what happens02:14
tanathi'm usually pretty careful when i fiddle... :P02:14
tanathprolly gnome-terminal02:14
tanathxterm is fine, other fonts on the system are fine..02:15
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IntuitiveNippleok.02:15
fulioHi, is anyone avaible to help me with my error please..02:15
tanath!ask02:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:15
ConstyXIVfulio: it's usually okay to just tell us your error outright02:16
fuliook02:16
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IntuitiveNipplewhat version have you got? I've got 2.18.1-1ubuntu202:16
fuliowell when i booted up my laptop i got an error with the gnome-settings-daemon "which lead to my icons changing back to the original and my appearance is ugly agn..02:16
tanathVersion: 2.18.1-1ubuntu202:17
IntuitiveNipplefulio: sounds like a dbus error, try restarting gnome with Ctrl+Alt+backspace02:17
CydeSwypefulio, there's a number of people having that problem after this morning's update, i think02:17
fulioi have done that.02:17
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IntuitiveNippletanath: ok, so we have the same version, so something else then02:17
tanathIntuitiveNipple, you don't have the problem?02:18
jeplerfor me, I think it was broken by one of these upgrades: http://pastebin.ca/70134602:18
fulioCydeSwype, so theres nothing i can do?02:18
CydeSwypei just did an update (108 packages!  yay!) so hopefully one of those fixes it02:18
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CydeSwypefulio, look for another update02:18
IntuitiveNippletanath: Have you tried editing the Default gnome-terminal profile from the Edit > Profiles menu?02:18
tanathIntuitiveNipple, yep02:18
fulioCydeSwype, where can i find an update?02:18
IntuitiveNipplehmmm02:18
tanaththat was the first thing i tried02:18
CydeSwypefulio; system->administration->update manager02:19
tanathactually, second. after the 'zooming' thing02:19
IntuitiveNippleok... what font does it claim is in use currntly?02:19
CydeSwypetanath, this morning i had teeny tiny fonts.  i adjusted them but they didn't take effect until i restarted02:19
tanathsystem default, which according to the gconf thing is monospace 1002:19
ConstyXIVwhere in ccsm do you keep windows from "sticking" to the edge?02:19
fulioCydeSwype, when i clicked on it , it said "not all updates can be isntalled02:19
CydeSwypeadditionally, my restricted nvidia drivers got disabled.  re-enabling those solved a lot of problems02:19
ShackJackConstyXIV: Under wobbly windows - uncheck snap inverted...02:20
IntuitiveNipplemine has "Use the system fixed width font" and shows "monospace 12"02:20
CydeSwypefulio, have you done a restart recently?  you have to reboot after this morning's update02:20
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ShackJackCydeSwype: By nvidia drivers got borked by latest kernel update... had the "new" binary drivers and now they're gone and I am said :(02:20
tanathConstyXIV, snapping windows02:20
fulioCydeSwype, i think after i ahve done the update, and turned of my laptop and i went back on and thats when i got the error02:21
CydeSwypeshackjack, sounds like that's happening to several people.  the joys of being on the beta release!02:21
IntuitiveNippleWe're on beta already!?02:21
IntuitiveNippleStill alpha you know!02:21
CydeSwypeerr alpha?02:21
CydeSwypelol02:21
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IntuitiveNipplelol02:21
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ShackJackCydeSwype: Yeah, I have this monitor which has query refresh so it starts with "no signal" I was releived when nvidia-new - fixed it, but it got borked... SHould've save my old xrog.conf - DOH!02:21
CydeSwypefulio, i sometimes get the "can't install updates" but usually a restart solves it02:22
CydeSwypeshackjack, if i had a nickel for every time i should have saved my xorg.conf, i'd have about $20 now02:22
tanathIntuitiveNipple, what's your gnome-control-center version?02:22
CydeSwypethis whole bulletproof x thing still has a way to go02:22
fulioCydeSwype, atm im running a partial upgrade02:23
ShackJackCydeSwype: Ironically, my ATI setup is working swimmingly :)02:23
CydeSwypefulio, very cool.  that may fix a lot of things for you02:23
IntuitiveNippletanath: 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu202:23
tanathIntuitiveNipple, Version: 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu302:23
ShackJackCydeSwype: I can start in vesa, al least but I miss me eye candy...02:23
tanathIntuitiveNipple, and i can't open gnome appearance02:23
fulioCydeSwype, how do install icons theme and a gnome theme ?02:23
ShackJackHI all - gutsy's been a little finicky with auto-mounting USB drives lately, but I have USB hard drive I want to mount on a notebook and is doesn't show up in lsusb at all (?!)   And tips on steps I can take?02:23
CydeSwypeshackjack, yeah, it's funny how we miss the wobbly windows, isn't it?02:24
tanathfulio, Sys > Prefs > Appearance02:24
IntuitiveNippletanath: interestingly, updating that package needs to also do  libgnome-window-settings102:24
tanathfulio, er, Sys > Prefs > windows02:24
IntuitiveNipplewhich sounds more like something that'd affect your fonts02:24
ShackJackCydeSwype: Yeah, but it's actually useful too... And I love the Irony of my Virtual Windows XP flipping in a CoverFlow style-task switcher on my Linux machine ;)02:24
tanathfulio, er, ignore me, i can't find it, lol02:25
CydeSwypeshackjack, is that from the latest virtualbox stuff?02:25
fuliotanath, lol02:25
osmosiswhere can I download a daily of gutsy server?    doesnt work http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/02:25
IntuitiveNippletanath:  dpkg-query -L libgnome-window-settings102:25
IntuitiveNippletanath: check what files are changed02:25
ShackJackCydeSwype: Yeah, using the Fiesty repo on their site - it works great(!)02:25
fuliotanath, everything was working ok untill the update , will this be fix soo?02:26
fuliosoon*02:26
ShackJackCydeSwype: Got a little windows logo in my app launcher to launch it with one click in full screne mode... sweet...02:26
IntuitiveNipplefulio: check if there's a bug report about it. If so, add a comment... if not, report a new bug02:26
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CydeSwypeshackjack, i love virtualbox.  haven't gotten the latest one installed with winxp yet though (hunting for a copy)...a legal one of course...02:26
tanathIntuitiveNipple, the relevant files: http://pastebin.ca/70136002:26
tanathfulio, hope so02:26
fuliotanath, do you also ahve that problem?02:27
ConstyXIVCydeSwype: xp or virtualbox?  vbox is free and Free (depending on your tastes)02:27
ShackJackCydeSwype: I was able to use my product key twice (have two version, just couldn't find other key)... Went to install WMP 11 but it tags on WGA so I'll look for a cracked copy of that...02:27
tanathfulio, sorry, which again?02:27
IntuitiveNippletanath: yeah, I know, I can see them here :) I meant, check if the executables/libraries have been updated or just some minor doc changes.02:27
ShelaghAny one having trouble upgrading snort? I get subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 6. Google doesn't help.02:27
CydeSwypeconstyXIV: virtualbox is set up.  just looking for a winxp cd02:27
ShackJackAny help on troubleshooting a USB harddrive that doesn't show in lsusb?02:27
fuliotanath, with the gnome-settings-daemon with the error02:28
CydeSwypeshackjack, i've installed my key too many times.  told me to get another one  =^P  stupid MS02:28
IntuitiveNippletanath: from the Changelog: Version 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu3:02:28
IntuitiveNipple  * Add support for altering touchpad parameters to02:28
IntuitiveNipple    gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-mouse-properties02:28
tanathfulio, oh, i didn't get that problem :)02:28
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jeplerhm things are worse after reboot -- gnome-terminal comes up short but wider than the screen, and all window titles are cut off02:28
fuliotanath, grrr.. hope this will fix it02:28
tanathjepler, yep. the text is tiny02:28
ShackJackCydeSwype: I can't believe how well it works, even on my old 2.4 P402:28
tanathjepler, highlight it02:28
osmosiswhy is there no image?  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/02:29
IntuitiveNippleCydeSwype: phone MS - they'll usually reset the count on it for you. I have done that several times because of testing02:29
osmosisno ISO02:29
ShackJackTiny text in GUI?02:29
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IntuitiveNippleosmosis: check the build logs on launchpad02:30
jeplerI also get a nasty warning about gnome power something, but that's more than likely because I'm using a custom kernel with CPU frequency scaling disabled02:30
osmosisIntuitiveNipple: build logs?  i can never find anything on launchpad02:31
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krisxhowdy02:32
CydeSwypeintuitivenipple: i kinda figured they'd do that.  i just haven't gotten around to it.  that and i don't want to get their attitude when i tell them i install them as a virtualmachine under linux  ;^)02:32
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igorguehey!02:33
krisxyo lol02:33
fulioallright guys brb my update has just finish ima do a reboot brb02:33
IntuitiveNippleCydeSwype: You don't need to tell them the precise details. All you say is you're reinstalling because you're trying different configurations02:34
tanathIntuitiveNipple, files don't seem to have been touched02:34
tanathIntuitiveNipple, since yesterday02:35
IntuitiveNippletanath: So, something else maybe02:35
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CydeSwypebut how can i resist telling them i'm finally rid of their OS?!  ;^)02:35
IntuitiveNippletanath: the key is to monitor what files/settings gnome-terminal reads to give you an idea where the issue is - I'd use strace initially, and then inotifywait and then get specific02:36
IntuitiveNippleCydeSwype: You're not :p02:36
IntuitiveNippleCydeSwype: Else you'd be able to forget it :)02:36
krisxman you guys are developoing the hell out of gutsy it used to crash once a day ive been up for 2 weeeks  as  of late02:36
CydeSwypehaha true02:36
CydeSwypei mostly have them around just so i can QA in IE02:36
CydeSwypethe ies4linux isn't 100% reliable02:36
igorguekrisx: now is not crashing that much02:36
krisxlol02:37
IntuitiveNippleI'm the same, I have VMs of each version for testing02:37
igorgueAnother update of compiz... that make me happy!02:37
IntuitiveNippleBut I have an MSDN account too so licensing isn't a big issue02:37
CydeSwyperight on02:37
CydeSwypesweet.  update finally finished.  time for reboot02:38
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krisxyeah boys  imm quad booting now but i am linux convert after vista02:39
tanathIntuitiveNipple, i can't remember how to direct the strace output to a file02:39
krisxmy hubbys hardcore linux02:40
igorgueyeah Vista sucks... but at least they have a good chess program which is not "online" chess program btw02:40
krisxhe screwed up my head lol02:40
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tanathIntuitiveNipple, nvm02:41
IntuitiveNippletanath: man strace ... clue -o02:41
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tanathIntuitiveNipple, keeps giving me permission denied o.O02:42
krisxdamn  processor hog i run 10% on linux vista ultimate has me 30 on a 5200+ dual core02:42
tanathIntuitiveNipple, gah, nvm, lol02:43
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fulioHELP02:43
tanathIntuitiveNipple, ok, got me an strace log, but need help to know what i'm looking for02:43
krisximm a linux newb  yes but damn02:43
fulioafter i have done the update my desktop effects isnt working and my compiz-fusion isnt working, desktop effects isnt located in the system>preference> and im not able to click on the compiz-fusion.02:44
krisxonly been plaing for a year since feisty but i  am a power useer02:45
igorgue:o02:45
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igorguefulio: you are scaring me a lot02:45
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IBGfulio, try ctr+f2 then compiz --replace02:45
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CydeSwypeoh man...that is SO much better02:46
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fulioIBG, it wont open. i went to the syn package and try to install desktop-effects and it wont let me it says "desktop-effects:02:46
fulio Depends: compiz but it is not going to be installed02:46
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IntuitiveNippletanath: I'd use a process of elimination - look for reads of what seem like settings files (so in ~/.gnome*) using grep02:47
krisxthis version of linux  with 64 compiz emerald is sweet shit02:47
sebastianhi guys .. i am trying to upgrade to gutsy with update-manager -c -d but it doesn't show the 7.10 update .... what should i do?02:47
IntuitiveNippleGutsy 64-bit is running sweet since about tribe-502:47
sebastiani have the newest update-manager02:48
jribsebastian: apt-cache policy update-manager   returns what version?02:48
krisxwell maybe it runs under 32 but damnnnnnn02:48
fulioanyhelp please.02:48
sebastian0.59.2302:48
krisx4:2002:49
sebastianjrib: 0.59.2302:49
tanathIntuitiveNipple, mostly icons, and mostly ENOENT (No such file or directory)02:49
IntuitiveNippleMaybe its using dbus and of course gconfd02:49
jribsebastian: does it fail if you just run 'update-manager -d'?02:49
igorgueare you getting the gnome splash screen?02:49
sebastianjrib: yeah, it shows no updates02:50
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jribsebastian: interesting, it's not showing up on my feisty install at the moment either.  But I have upgraded another one this way.  Let me see02:51
IntuitiveNippletanath: What happens if you select a custom font and size?02:51
ShackJackfulio - compiz just had some issues in repos... I would maybe just uninstall, do updates and reinstall compiz02:51
krisxtake care love you guys sorry mental health daY night all02:51
tanathIntuitiveNipple, no change02:51
tanathIntuitiveNipple, no visible change anyway02:51
igorguekrisx, bye02:51
IntuitiveNippleso gnome-terminal ignores the setting?02:51
krisxcompiz is getting there02:51
igorguekrisx, with the latest update?02:52
fulioShackJack, can you help me pelase?02:52
IntuitiveNippletanath: I've just altered the current font to BOLD monospace 12pt and that works instantly02:52
fulioShackJack, well it seems like it isnt installed but my desktop effects isnt working02:52
IntuitiveNippletanath: As soon as I reselect "Use default" the window switches back to Monospace 1002:52
tanathIntuitiveNipple, i just tried monospace 72. no change02:53
ShackJacksudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade02:53
IntuitiveNipplelooks like you've got a dbus/gconfd issue... are they both running?02:53
ShackJackand make sure compiz compiz-gnome compizconfigset<Tab> is installed..02:53
krisxsorry my gentoo honey tells me not but i update and  upgrade every day02:53
krisxnature of dev02:53
fulioHi, i have just done a new update+upgrade, and now im not able to use any desktop effects and my compiz-fusion isnt working. desktopeffects isnt located in the sys>pref> i tryd intsalling it and it woouldnt work any help please??02:54
krisxtwice a day actually02:54
jribsebastian: not sure what's going on here either02:54
ShackJackfulio: You have to reinstall... do search look for packages, etc...02:54
tanathIntuitiveNipple, dbus is running, but i don't see gconf02:54
ShackJackaptitude search compiz02:54
fulioi have done that none of the packages are installed and if i try to reinstalll it , it wont work =\02:54
sebastianjrib: hm, that's really strange02:54
IntuitiveNippletanath: :$ ps -ef | grep gconfd02:55
IntuitiveNippletj        6017     1  0 Sep17 ?        00:00:01 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 602:55
fulioi tryd to install desktop-effects and i got this back02:55
fuliodesktop-effects:02:55
fulio Depends: compiz but it is not going to be installed02:55
sebastianjrib: maybe this is since tribe 5 update?02:55
ShackJackfulio: Well, you might have to wait, though I don't know why - dependency stuff... happened to me a little earlier...02:55
IntuitiveNippletanath: that explains your problem,if gconfd hasn't started02:55
tanathIntuitiveNipple, found it02:55
ShackJackfulio: Did you update as i stated above -- full-upgrade02:55
IntuitiveNippleahh, good!02:55
krisxhow soon till big freeze02:55
jribsebastian: I don't think so, I'm pretty sure my other upgrade was after tribe 502:56
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tanathIntuitiveNipple,  /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 is running02:56
IntuitiveNipplelol... fab new bug #140565 ... made me think of the solution being "Upgrade User" !!02:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140565 in ubuntu "mounting network samba and nfs shares is too hard for average user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14056502:56
tanathheh02:57
fulioShackJack, yes. i saw a new update on the top right, i clicked it did a update , and it asked for a rebbooot so i did and now none of my desktop effects wont work and my icons and themes changed back02:57
IntuitiveNippletanath: for the hell of it, have you tried restarting GDM and/or the PC ?02:57
krisxheh gtfo02:57
ShackJackfulio: SOrry dunno what else to tell ya...02:57
tanathIntuitiveNipple, again?02:57
IntuitiveNipplelol ok just asking!02:57
tanathIntuitiveNipple, well i upgraded, rebooted as necessary, and that's when the problem started02:57
IntuitiveNipplecan never be too careful :)02:57
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krisxdont reboot lol02:58
tanaththen upgraded a bit more, and that's when i couldn't run gnome-appearance anymore02:58
IntuitiveNippletanath: I would try a restart if it were me - I've seen several issues that needed a couple of restarts to settle down after updates02:58
IntuitiveNippleIn the long run, if it solves the issue, it saves you time and stress02:58
krisxyou shoud be  able to recover in recovery mode02:59
sebastianjrib: hmm, here's what gets dumped into the terminal: warning: could not initiate dbus02:59
sebastiancurrent dist not found in meta-release file02:59
jribsebastian: same here, but I don't think that matters02:59
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jribsebastian: ah, I don't get that second line03:00
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ConstyXIVis there any way to get GDM to let you tab to the password box again?03:00
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krisxok gotta scoot hubbys growling for dinner nite all03:00
sebastianjrib: i think if it doesn't know what distribution i am using now it can't know how to update03:00
scriptkiddiei'd like to do a dist upgrade to gutsy.  do i just need to change my sources list? and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?03:01
jribscriptkiddie: no, see: ubuntu.com/testing03:01
ConstyXIVscriptkiddie: before you do anything, back up anything that might be important03:02
jribyes, good point03:02
scriptkiddieConstyXIV: heh, i lost 10 years worth of work three weeks ago.  nothing important anymore03:02
ConstyXIVupgrades to testing can and will kill your system when you least expect it03:03
scriptkiddiethe live cd works great.  i am hoping the upgrade is just as simple03:03
ConstyXIVit's the perfect standards-compliant implementation of murphy's law :)03:03
ShackJackNah, that's never happened to me..03:03
ShackJackSo if I plug in somethng and it doesn't show up in lsusb -- any next steps I can take?? (external USB HD - works in other gutsy setup on older computer)03:04
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tanathIntuitiveNipple, didn't work :-/03:04
sebastianjrib: aha, strange my meta-release file is empty ... i'll see what happens if i fill in the stuff03:05
ConstyXIVwhat difference does it make to use a statically compiled version of an app?03:05
ConstyXIVspecifically, opera 9.5 alpha03:06
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IntuitiveNippletanath: hmmm!03:06
IntuitiveNippleI'll do a lib update then a control-center and see if either affects things03:06
tanathConstyXIV, static linking = bad03:07
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IdleOne!usplash03:07
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tanathhttp://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html03:07
IntuitiveNippletanath: not always03:07
hydrogenConstyXIV: static linking makes the binary a bit bigger by linking all necessary stuff into the binary03:08
hydrogenits nice though because theres no dependancy hell03:08
tanathIntuitiveNipple, the article i linked says otherwise :P03:08
IntuitiveNippledon't believe everything you read :p03:08
jribsebastian: it's working in a vm by the way03:08
hydrogentanath: that doesn't really matter03:08
ConstyXIVhydrogen: outside of that, does it cause any real damage?03:08
sebastianjrib: ok, updating the file worked03:08
hydrogentanath: static linking is good in a number of cases03:08
hydrogenConstyXIV: it doesn't cause damage03:08
hydrogenConstyXIV: its fine to use03:08
IntuitiveNippleConstyXIV: dynamic linking means that smaller bits can updated independently03:08
sebastianjrib: it seems the reason was that the meta-release file was empty03:08
jribsebastian: I rm -rf ~/.update-manager*  and that worked here as well03:08
tanathhydrogen, "There are still too many people out there who think (or even insist) that static linking has benefits. This has never been the case and never will be the case."03:09
hydrogentanath: so what03:09
IntuitiveNippleConstyXIV: but for some situations static linking is preferred, especially if the app writer needs to ensure only certain versions of libs are used03:09
hydrogentanath: you can't tell me that having a static linked version of coreutils is a bad idea03:09
tanathhydrogen, did you read the article?03:09
mosnoit all depends on your goals, really03:09
hydrogentanath: do you understand the difference or are you just spouting off dreppers thoughts?03:09
tanathhydrogen, telling me you disagree doesn't help. telling me why you disagree might03:09
IntuitiveNippleConstyXIV: If you've got library developers changing the ABI/API at will, as happens a lot, then static linking can be beneficial03:10
tanathhydrogen, neither. i'm just pointing to the article03:10
sebastianjrib: thanks for help03:10
hydrogentanath: right, and I'm pointing out that absolutes are never correct03:10
jribsebastian: no problem, glad you sorted it03:10
hydrogenstatic linking is very helpful because it does not require libraries on the machine to exist03:10
tanathhydrogen, that sentence is an absolute, therefore you just contradicted yourself :P03:10
hydrogenso if something gets really messed up in your /lib directory03:10
hydrogenand you have a staticly linked version of cp hanging around03:11
hydrogen(or busybox, which provides a number of staticalyh linked apps in a rescue shell)03:11
hydrogenyou can still use cp03:11
IntuitiveNippletanath: I've updated gnome-control-center; still no problems03:11
ConstyXIVonly a sith deals in absolutes (sorry :()03:12
IntuitiveNippletanath: Is Bug #140569 yours?03:13
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 140569 in gnome-terminal "Gterminal not working on Gutsy as of latest updates 9/17/07 5:55pm pacific" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14056903:13
tanathhydrogen, i agree with most of what you're saying03:13
tanathIntuitiveNipple, looks to be, though comment says it's a dupe03:14
scriptkiddiewell, going to try a dist upgrade to gutsy03:15
ShackJackscriptkiddie: I'll say a prayer...03:16
ShackJackSo if I plug in somethng and it doesn't show up in lsusb -- any next steps I can take?? (external USB HD - works in other gutsy setup on older computer)03:16
tanathShackJack, lol03:17
IntuitiveNippletanath: I'm looking through the updates list you've had - gtk2-engines-pixbuf is a candidate03:17
ShackJacktanath: LOL on the prayer or the USB question?03:18
IntuitiveNippleShackJack: port power issue?03:18
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ConstyXIVcan you set scale to be set off by super+middle-click?03:18
tanathShackJack, prayer, of course03:18
ShackJackIntuitiveNipple: Don't think so - oterh devices show up in lsusb (but don't automount) and device in question (USB HD) mounts on my desktop computer03:18
squeeI just upgraded and restarted and now my terminal in gnome is messed up.  It almost looks like the fonts are missing or something.  Has anyone had a similar problems?03:19
tanathIntuitiveNipple, update list i had? someone else posted a list of updates, but i think mine were fewer.03:19
IntuitiveNippletanath: I have the update list here, just going through it03:20
IntuitiveNipplegutsy-changes mailing list I subscribe to03:20
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Ahmuckk, can someone tell me how to do a dist upgrade from fiesty to gutsy03:25
tanathIntuitiveNipple, gnome package says v: 1:2.18.3ubuntu1, but sysinfo says Gnome: 2.19.92 (Ubuntu 2007-09-04)03:26
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IntuitiveNipplewhich gnome package?03:27
mosnoAhmuck: if you're asking, you might want to hold off on doing that until Gutsy is stable. Just a thought.03:27
Ahmuckna, i ok with trying it now03:28
Ahmuckive been using the test cd, and it works great03:28
IntuitiveNippletanath: gnome-about is the package that reports 2.19.9203:28
mosnothen usually you change references from feisty to gutsy in sources.list, then update and upgrade with aptitude or apt-get03:28
ShackJackAhmuck: See: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe503:29
mosnogoogle for a guide03:29
tanathIntuitiveNipple, i just remembered something. amsn pops up an error on start, and now the text is invisible on that too03:30
IntuitiveNippletanath: I may soon be joining you, I'm allowing the upgrades :)03:30
tanathhas anyone ever run amsn on gutsy?03:30
IntuitiveNippleYeah03:31
tanath'cause as soon as i upgraded to gutsy it stopped working03:31
Ahmuckk, does the upgrade-manager upgrade ubuntu or kubuntu03:31
Ahmuckkause i am on kubuntu03:31
tanathand now with this, i can't see the error :P03:31
Toma-tanath: can you hit ctl-S and see if you can see that?03:32
IntuitiveNipplehave you checked the ~/.xsession-errors03:32
hydrogenyou can use update-manager on kubuntu03:32
tanathIntuitiveNipple, the server list?03:32
hydrogenit just pulls in a whole bunch of gnome packages03:32
tanathoh, on gterm?03:32
hydrogenbeeause I don't think update-manager-kde is in feisty-backports03:32
IntuitiveNippletanath: the user X session log03:32
tanathIntuitiveNipple, you said to hit ctrl+s... on what?03:33
IntuitiveNipplemoi? no that was Toma-03:33
Toma-tanath: that was me. hit ctrl-s on amsn03:33
tanathoh, right03:33
tanathToma-, can't. i can't run amsn03:33
Toma-oh it doesnt even run? :/03:33
tanathToma-, it pops up an error, and quits when i hit ok03:33
tanathToma-, can't load something or other03:34
Toma-well do it on the error dialog03:34
Toma-might work03:34
tanathnope03:34
Toma-bummer03:34
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IntuitiveNipplefirst batch of updates applied... still ok here03:35
Toma-tanath: tried moving your .amsn directory?03:35
IdleOnewill pidgin package for gutsy install and work on fiesty?03:35
Toma-IdleOne: the dependencies will be off, so i guess not03:35
IntuitiveNippleit's looking like it'll be a libgtk2.0 issue03:36
IntuitiveNippleupdating them now03:36
tanathno03:36
tanathIntuitiveNipple, there's a gtk warning: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.03:37
tanathnot sure what app that was03:37
IntuitiveNippleI hate the gnome logging, it's so unclear03:37
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mrocneed a little help here....i just installed tribe 5 on this system and everything worked.  after applying updates, about a quarter of the screen (in the middle) is a big blank strip.  intel i810 driver.   has anyone else run into this?03:37
mrocsorry...that wasn't clear....i tried i810 and intel as the driver in the xorg.conf03:38
tanathIntuitiveNipple, after that it says: Refusing to initialize GTK+.03:39
tanathToma-, i don't think it's the .amsn dir, it said something about can't load a library.... tkxcdimage? or something like that03:41
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tanathdamnit, it won't send the error to terminal03:42
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IntuitiveNippletime to restart and test it all03:45
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mroctrying my question again......latest updates have caused a big black bar across the middle of the my screen i810 driver....has anyone else run into this problem?03:48
igorguenop03:48
igorgueand I have also an intel chipset03:48
igorgue(santa rosa)03:48
IdleOnemroc: gimme a sec03:48
igorguedo you know any workaround in the last gnome terminal emulator issue?03:49
igorguethe too little fonts?03:49
tanathuse xterm03:49
igorgue:D03:49
tanath:D03:49
igorguethats what Im using03:49
IdleOnebug #13760403:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137604 in xorg-server "Black Bar Across Screen with gutsy i810" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13760403:49
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IdleOnemroc: follow the above link there is a temp fix03:50
IntuitiveNippletanath: It's affected me too, after the gtk2 update03:50
mrocIdleOne: thanks...guess i didn't search the bugs carefully enough03:50
IntuitiveNippleall fonts are being painted smaller03:50
tanathalrighty03:50
tanathIntuitiveNipple, now it'll be easier for you to find the problem & fix it :D :P03:50
tanathIntuitiveNipple, yeh, but they were like that before on feisty too03:50
tanathfor me anyway03:51
IdleOnemroc: np03:51
tanathIntuitiveNipple, i think the fonts are fixed now, not 'smaller'. they were too big03:51
Toma-tanath: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg426374.html03:51
IntuitiveNippletanath: Fixed it03:52
tanath... that was fast03:52
IntuitiveNippleI don't hang about... can you start gnome-appearance-properties ?03:52
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tanathToma-, thx, trying that now03:53
Toma-tanath: np03:53
tanathIntuitiveNipple, nope03:53
tanathIntuitiveNipple, how'd you fix it?03:53
tanathIntuitiveNipple, that how?03:53
igorgueIntuitiveNipple, how do you fix it?03:54
tanathToma-, it's alive! :D03:54
Toma-hazzah!03:54
Toma-cool03:54
Toma-was just a simple PEBKAC :)03:54
tanathwhat? how so?03:55
Toma-you left a feisty repo in the sources.list?03:55
tanathi don't think so...03:55
tanathlemme triple check03:55
Toma-maybe im just reading it wrong03:56
tanathnope03:56
tanathIntuitiveNipple, so don't leave us hanging. how'd you fix it?03:57
igorgueyeah... this issue suck very hard03:58
tanathlol, i think he's busy03:58
igorguefixing it maybe :P03:58
IntuitiveNippletanath: bear with me, I'm working out the gconftool command for it03:58
tanathone command, to fix them all...03:58
tanathsorry03:58
tanath:D03:59
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IntuitiveNippleok here we go - couldn't work out what data-type the value is04:01
IntuitiveNipple$ gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9604:01
IntuitiveNippleIt's been reset to 5004:01
IntuitiveNipplethats the bug, it should be 96dpi or close04:01
tanathIntuitiveNipple, victory!04:02
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IntuitiveNippleI've posted the fix to the bug04:03
tanathso how'd that happen?04:03
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VousDeuxhi, what is the best mpeg decoder?04:04
Toma-mencoder04:04
Toma-whats that got to do with gutsy?04:04
VousDeuxI had that stuff working before, but I reinstalled everything and I can't remember what I used before.04:04
tanathIntuitiveNipple, and now gnome appearance works04:05
IntuitiveNippleyes, and many others04:05
tanathVousDeux, DEcoder?04:05
IntuitiveNippleI've marked the main bug as high priority, confirmed and assigned04:05
tanathVousDeux, what're you trying to do?04:05
VousDeuxtanath, yeah, decoder...I'm trying to play mp3 format04:06
tanath!codecs04:06
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tanath^04:06
VousDeuxI guess it really doesn't have a lot to do with gutsy, now that you mention it, but I am running gutsy and this is where I have been getting the best help from04:06
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igorguethanks IntuitiveNipple!04:07
VousDeuxthanks, there are so many to choose from, hard to know where to start04:07
IntuitiveNippleyou're welcome04:07
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IntuitiveNippleI/m searching the updates now for the offending line04:08
tanath:)04:08
strabeshas anyone upgraded tonight? What's wrong with gnome-terminal and teh appearance window?04:08
IntuitiveNipplelol04:08
tanathstrabes, gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9604:08
tanathstrabes, run that in xterm or something04:09
IntuitiveNipplestrabes I just fixed it... see bug #14054004:09
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strabeswell that was easy.04:09
strabesthank you all04:09
tanathlol04:09
tanathyou weren't here for the past couple hours :P04:09
strabesso the upgrade caused it?04:09
strabesyeah apparently lol04:09
IntuitiveNippleI'm looking for the cause now04:10
VousDeuxlibxine...that looks familiar04:11
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tanathVousDeux, i think installing w32codecs will do the job04:11
tanath!mp304:12
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mssnlayamI get a "Gnone settings daemon could not start" error when I start gnome. What could be wrong?04:19
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strabesmssnlayam: see this therad: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553094&highlight=gnome+settings+daemon04:20
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mssnlayamstrabes: cool thanks04:20
strabesmssnlayam: i think this post will help: "04:21
strabesOdd as it might seem, this is actually a bug in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. I've just uploaded a fixed version, which should land in the archives within a couple of hours."04:21
strabesso it looks like this bug will fix itself04:21
mssnlayamcool :)04:21
mssnlayamI have another question, I guess this should be pretty common, but could not find the answer anywhere. Fonts for non-gnome applications (firefox, etc.) are screwed up, and I am not able to figure out how to fix them04:22
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fulio_hi04:23
fulio_when i booted into my laptop i got this error There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.04:23
fulio_Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.04:23
fulio_The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.04:23
fulio_GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.04:23
VousDeuxThe libxine stuff seemed to do the trick. The w64codecs weren't listed in Adept. Thanks a bunch!04:23
mssnlayamfulio_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553094&highlight=gnome+settings+daemon04:23
fulio_mssnlayam, yea im having that problem too , my compiz fusion was working and all but now its not working04:24
fulio_mssnlayam, when i tryd to enable it i go this prbleom "Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)"04:25
mssnlayampasting what strabes said a few minutes ago04:25
mssnlayam(09:21:18 PM) strabes: Odd as it might seem, this is actually a bug in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. I've just uploaded a fixed version, which should land in the archives within a couple of hours."04:25
mssnlayam(09:21:39 PM) strabes: so it looks like this bug will fix itself04:25
fulio_mssnlayam, so everything will be ok soon?04:26
VousDeuxmssnlayam, does that address the shared memory issue with the SHMConfig?04:26
mssnlayamI don't know much, I just relayed what strabes said, to save them some typing04:27
mssnlayamI have the same problem, and from what I hear, looks like it will get fixed in the next upgrade04:27
VousDeuxoic, it would be cool if I could configure that thing...it's pretty annoying :)04:28
fulio_mssnlayam, i have a question wheren do i put these deb packages like i386 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9322477/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_i386.deb?04:30
fulio_mssnlayam, for more information it said "for those who cant wait for apt-get here are the direct links to deb packages, then it said to simply do sudo dpkg-i followed by the package name04:31
mssnlayamfulio_: I don't understand your question04:31
fulio_mssnlayam, can you go to this site please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553094&highlight=gnome+settings+daemon&page=5 and aldeby wronte something about packages04:32
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Ahmuckdpkg: error processing util-linux-locales (--configure):04:32
Ahmuck dependency problems - leaving unconfigured04:32
AhmuckErrors were encountered while processing:04:32
Ahmuck tzdata04:32
Ahmuck util-linux-locales04:32
mssnlayamfulio_: yes, I am there04:32
mssnlayamdownload the package and run sudo dpkg -i filename04:33
fulio_mssnlayam, did you read it? someone said that he did that and everything works fine now04:33
mssnlayamyes, I read that04:33
fulio_so i download the package and save it to desktop04:33
fulio_?04:33
mssnlayamsave it anywhere you want :)04:33
fulio_kk04:33
mssnlayamand the argument should be the filename04:33
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mssnlayamfulio_, I just now downloaded and installed it. I don't know if it will work though. I will logout and let you know04:35
fulio_k04:35
fulio_mssnlayam, ok04:35
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mssnlayamfulio_: works now :)04:37
fulio_mssnlayam, why doesnt it work for me?04:37
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fulio_mssnlayam, i saved both files on to my desktop04:37
fulio_mssnlayam, the first one i did was04:37
fulio_mssnlayam, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553094&highlight=gnome+settings+daemon&page=504:37
mssnlayamdid you install it?04:38
fulio_mssnlayam, sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb04:38
pwnguinanyone know what package the mouse preferences is in?04:38
pwnguinive noticed that setting the sensetivity doesn't affect my synaptics touchpad04:38
mssnlayamfulio_: what was the output?04:38
fulio_mssnlayam, ima do it one more time04:38
fulio_mssnlayam,  you there?04:42
fulio_mssnlayam, this is the output04:42
fulio_mssnlayam, fulio@fulio-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb04:42
fulio_dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb (--install):04:42
fulio_ package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)04:42
fulio_Errors were encountered while processing:04:42
fulio_ xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb04:42
mssnlayamfulio_, you are using an x86 system, perhaps04:42
mssnlayamthere are two files right?04:42
fulio_yes one of them is a 1386 and a x86_6404:42
mssnlayaminstall the file for i38604:43
fulio_k then do i reboot?04:43
mssnlayamhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/9322477/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_0.14.6-0ubuntu9_i386.deb04:43
mssnlayamdid you install it?04:43
mssnlayamjust log out of gnome login back again04:43
fulio_k im done brb04:43
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fulio_mssnlayam, hey04:45
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(fulio_/#ubuntu+1) mssnlayam, well THANKYOU ALOT you help me alot its just now my desktop effects04:47
(fulio_/#ubuntu+1) ty04:47
(mssnlayam/#ubuntu+1) cool04:48
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user01are there instructions for installing libdvdcss2 in gutsy?04:50
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Aondoit's not in the repo is it?04:52
Aondoif you have the package for it, just sudo dpkg -i package.deb04:53
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flaccidjust wondering if its possible to keep up with the nvidia glx driver when keeping up with gutsy updates. ie. need to reinstall coz of new kernel but sometimes i think the restricted mods are not out for that kernel version yet, so then i have to rever to previous kernel04:54
flaccidi guess this is normal..04:54
fulio_\dow-decorator" (No such file or directory)"04:54
fulio_\problems,  when ever i try to enable the desktop effects it says "Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)"04:55
user01can i just download the feisty package for libdvdcss2 and install it in gutsy?05:00
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user01or just toss in usr/lib/05:00
gnomefreakuser01: it should work but i cant remember what depends it has normally not a good idea at all05:02
gnomefreakuser01: there are gutsy packages of that iirc05:03
AondoDepends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4)05:04
user01gnomefreak: i just wanted to test out dvd playback05:05
gnomefreakAondo: ty05:05
user01gnomefreak: or would you recommend waiting until october?05:05
user01im sure there will be wikis all over the place by then05:06
gnomefreakuser01: grab it from mediubuntu or whatever its called05:06
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gnomefreakuser01: last i heard repos had issues so you might want to open repo in browser and download the package05:06
Aondoi just downloaded it from videolan.org the deb file there05:07
Aondono conflicts at all05:07
Aondohehe05:07
gnomefreak!libc6 gutsy05:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libc6 gutsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:08
gnomefreak!info libc6 gutsy05:08
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.6.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4084 kB, installed size 10120 kB05:08
gnomefreakdamn yeah thats fine05:09
user01Aondo: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html thats not the right place i take it05:10
gnomefreakuser01: just get it from mediubuntu site05:11
gnomefreak!libdvdcss205:11
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ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:11
gnomefreakor seveas05:11
tanathIntuitiveNipple, did you manage to track down that problem?05:11
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IntuitiveNippleyes05:12
user01gnomefreak: didnt see gutsy up but i take it there are no issues installing the feisty package05:12
user01from Aondos remarks anyway05:13
gnomefreakuser01: no feisty package should work but there are gutsy packages someone else was talking about this yesterday or day before05:13
gnomefreakuser01: hold on a sec05:13
user01i didnt see any on seveass site05:13
gnomefreakuser01: ill get it for you05:13
tanathIntuitiveNipple, and what/where was it?05:13
user01thanks :)05:13
gnomefreaknp give me some time i have download going so i have a bit of lag05:14
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IntuitiveNippletanath: resetting the dpi it seems, when updating gnome-control-center and capplets-data05:17
asubedihey, edge scrolling on synaptics touchpad suddenly working today. does anyone know of any fix?05:17
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Aondouser01  http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/05:18
gnomefreakuser01: http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/05:19
donspauldinghello all, anyone know if there are plans for a vmware-server commercial package for Gutsy?  Do commercial packages usually take this long in the devel cycle to show up?05:20
IntuitiveNippleYes, and yes :)05:21
user01Aondo: thanks gnomefreak:  thanks05:21
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gnomefreakdonspaulding: user01 yw05:21
IntuitiveNipplealthough you can install the current vmware-server and apply the any-any 113 patch05:21
gnomefreakdonspaulding: its not in repos and i dont remember it ever being in repos it was in canonical repo iirc05:22
gnomefreakrepos have vmware-player but not server05:22
Aondonp user01 :D enjoy!05:22
donspauldingso is the plan to have the commercial repo up-to-date on release of gutsy?05:23
gnomefreakdonspaulding: not until release afaik05:23
user01Aondo: did you do a sudo dpkg?05:23
gnomefreaksince so much changes during devel its hard to keep updating unofficial repos and official repos05:24
Aondouser01  ye with an -i package.deb behind it05:25
donspauldinggnomefreak, sure, I understand05:25
donspauldingIntuitiveNipple, does the 113 patch work with todays kernel update? I'm now running 2.6.22-11.3205:26
IntuitiveNippleI don't know, I tested it on Friday and it did05:26
gnomefreakhmmmmm nautilus burning :(05:26
gnomefreaklets try something else05:26
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user01is there a way if i find a good wiki for gutsy to link it somewhere to a ubuntu wiki?05:29
user01its on a personal website05:29
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fulio_what does this mean Depends: libwnck-common (<2.19) but 2.19.92-0ubuntu2 is to be installed05:34
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ohadi just upgraded to the last gutsy and all of a sudden my fonts in my terminal are extra small.. any ideas how to change that?05:34
gnomefreakfulio_: it means you cant install it on gutsy05:35
pwnguinohad: it might be a DPI problem05:35
fulio_im not using gusty im using feisty05:35
gnomefreakfulio_: it needs a version less than 2.19 and gutsys is higher05:35
gnomefreakfulio_: than you need to be in #ubuntu05:35
pwnguinfulio_: upgrading to gutsy?05:36
ohadpwnguin, how should i fix it?05:36
pwnguinohad: check out the fonts menu05:36
pwnguinwhats the dpi currently set to?05:36
gnomefreakbrb05:36
fulio_im not upgrading im trying to fix my desktopeffects05:36
fulio_im not able to fix it05:36
ohadpwnguin, where is it?05:36
ohadpwnguin, and what am i looking for?05:37
fulio_when i click to enable it , it says Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)05:37
fulio_Anyhelp please05:37
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pwnguinohad: system->preferences->fonts05:37
ohadpwnguin, no such thing.. how do i install install that?05:38
pwnguinhmm05:38
pwnguincute05:38
pwnguinthey moved it05:38
pwnguinits under appearance05:38
ohadpwnguin, apperance is actually not opening05:38
pwnguinthats no good05:38
pwnguingnome or kde?05:39
ohadgnome05:39
pwnguinok05:39
ohadjust updated the last version05:39
ohadon gutsy05:39
pwnguinsure05:39
pwnguinohad: bring up a terminal, and run gnome-appearance-properties05:40
fulio_i guess no one can help me agn??05:40
pwnguinfulio_: i think you might need to wait a bit05:40
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pwnguinfulio_: its likely that the new version of that package hasnt hit the mirrors yet05:40
ohadpwnguin, it's not really opening. it's stuck05:41
pwnguindoes anything print out on the terminal?05:41
pwnguinoh05:41
pwnguinshoot05:41
ohadpwnguin, terminal is too small to see if something is happening on it05:42
pwnguinright05:42
fulio_pwnguin, im talking about the desktop effects when ever i try to enable it says Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)05:42
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pwnguinfulio_: well, i dont know in detail how to fix feisty's desktopeffects, but your upgrade problem can be solved by waiting and trying again in a few hours05:44
pwnguinohad: try copy / pasting into gedit or something05:44
pwnguinor whatever paste bin this channel prefers05:46
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ohad_pwnguin, so ? what do you think?05:47
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IntuitiveNippleohad: see bug #14054005:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054005:48
ohad_how do i resolve this situation? also, what is going on with wifi encryption under gutsy intel netw4x32 thinkpad x61s.. does not connect to LEAP network or WEP enterprise..05:48
IntuitiveNippleI've posted the fix to that bug, at the top05:48
pwnguinohad_: i think it's already been reported05:48
pwnguin^_^05:48
ohad_IntuitiveNipple, which bug/.05:48
ohad_?05:48
pwnguinholy crap05:49
IntuitiveNippleread what I just referred to05:49
pwnguinits got a link, and the number twice05:49
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IntuitiveNipplelol05:49
IntuitiveNippleI ought to be in bed - its 5am and I want to be fresh for the fireworks from the SCO bankruptcy hearing later05:50
pwnguinbah05:50
pwnguinonly with linux does any given lawsuit get press05:50
pwnguinim sure microsoft is fending off lawsuits all the time, and it's not something to write about05:51
tanathlol05:51
IntuitiveNippleThe drama!05:52
IntuitiveNippleit'll make a great movie :)05:52
pwnguinJackass: the sequel?05:53
mosnospeaking of lawsuits i hear Microsoft and Novell are actually fighting over something05:53
mosnoie. in court against each other05:54
IntuitiveNippleon which topic?05:54
mosnono idea05:55
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mosnowas mentioned in passing in some anti-fud i was reading05:55
pwnguinmore interesting was mossburg's review of ubuntu05:56
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mosnopwnguin: watching it .................... now06:01
mosnoi dont see how it's any easier than Windows06:01
mosnoer s/easier/harder06:02
mosnoonly real issues ive head is with closed drivers/hardware06:02
mosnos/head/had --- damnit!06:02
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cheeseheadAnyone here know how to install Gutsy off of a USB drive?06:08
pwnguinmosno: well, you have a touchpad mouse?06:09
pwnguinmosno: i especially liked the complaint from another review that midis didnt work06:10
pwnguinwhich is partly true -- gstreamer doesn't yet handle midi afaik06:10
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CountXis there anyway to get virtualbox running on kernel 2.6.22-11.3306:11
CountXcause i cant, vbox says i need to install some kernel drivers06:12
cheeseheadSo...I hear Gutsy can install off of a USB disk, eh?06:12
CountXcant anything if your mobo supports booting from usb?06:13
cheeseheadWell, the .iso is a bit of a problem for a flash disk.06:13
CountXjust pull all the files from the iso to ur usb, format it FAT and then tell ur mobo to boot from usb06:13
mosnopwnguin: yea the touch-to-click sensitivity actually does annoy me06:13
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leperkhanz*sigh*06:14
mosnopwnguin: i dont know about midis i dont use them right now06:14
CountXcan someone point me to a repo for virtuabox for gutsy?06:14
leperkhanzCountX: Try getdeb.net06:14
leperkhanzThey got lotsa stuff on t here.06:14
CountXcool bro06:14
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pwnguinmosno: is that what he was on about?06:15
mosnopwnguin: probably06:15
mosnoat least he should have been :-)06:15
pwnguinmosno: i cant even adjust the sensetivity at ALL06:15
CountXleperkhanz: how do i tell that site im looking for gutsy only stuff?06:15
mosnopwnguin: i've never tried to..06:15
pwnguintry it06:15
mosnopwnguin: well i'll be installing opensuse soon i'll let you know if they support it :D06:15
pwnguinthen confirm by bug06:15
pwnguin^_^06:15
leperkhanzCountX: No need.  There are .debs for 32 and 64 bit gutsy for most every app.06:15
pwnguiner06:15
pwnguinmy bug06:16
CountXleperkhanz: cool06:16
mosnoyah. bugzillas are good. i've actually submitted one before! To Gnome Project. Bare in mind im a user not a dev06:16
CountXleperkhanz: what do you recommend for virtuals on gutsy?06:17
mosnopwnguin: bug URL?06:17
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leperkhanzI've had luck with qemulator, like i said earlier today. ;)06:17
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CountXleperkhanz: ya im kinda newb, i tried qemulator and got very confused06:18
pwnguin14058506:18
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pwnguinbug 14058506:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140585 in gnome-control-center "[gnome-mouse-properties]  Sensetivity doesn't affect touchpad" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14058506:18
mosnopwnguin: also, this http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=299983&cid=20641267 points out the obvious wrt. the supposed built-in-ness of Windows codecs06:18
pwnguini know06:19
CountXleperkhanz: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Qemulator where is the gutsy link dude :P06:19
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: Have you tried using gsynaptics ?06:19
leperkhanzThat IS the gutsy link.  :)06:19
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: in the past. but i really posted that in response to the mossburg review06:20
CountXleperkhanz: at the bottom there are only feisty links...06:20
leperkhanzgutsy and feisty use the same .debs.06:20
leperkhanz:)06:20
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CountXleperkhanz: ya but not the same kernel06:20
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CountXleperkhanz: thats why virtualbox wont work on mine, cause i dont have the kernel drivers for 2.6.2206:20
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: his point is that it's silly to install an extra program to something as basic as adjust sensetivity, especially now that there's a "touchpad" tab in the mouse panel06:21
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: I don't see that Sensitivity option affecting the mouse, let alone the glidepad!06:21
pwnguinheh06:21
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: well06:21
pwnguini hear it's switched06:21
pwnguinbut neither do anything for me06:22
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IntuitiveNippleI have a bluetooth mouse and the glidepad, neither seem to be affected by that06:22
CountXis there any particular reason firefox-bin freezes everytime i try downloading a file?06:22
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: i read another bug that says acceleration and sensetivity are switched06:22
CountXlike when i click on the link to the .deb it freezes06:23
IntuitiveNipplenope... Acceleration seems okay here at least06:24
pwnguinis there a reason fluendo-mp3 isnt installed by default?06:25
IntuitiveNipplepatents06:25
pwnguinhow does that matter?06:26
pwnguinits in universe06:26
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pwnguinlemme double check that06:26
IntuitiveNippleis it? I thought I saw it only in medibuntu06:26
IntuitiveNipplebrb, restarting gnome to test gsynaptics06:26
CountXcan anyone help me06:27
CountXi cant download anything with firefox, it freezes06:27
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IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: Gsynaptics doesn't adjust sensitivity either, so it's a general problem it seems06:29
pwnguinnope, its definately in universe06:30
pwnguini wonder if anyone's ever brought it up06:31
pwnguinit seems like every press review does06:31
pwnguinyou'd think someone would say, hay, we should done fix that soon06:31
pwnguinI wonder what the media would say if a distro charged 5 dollars for the right to mp3 playback06:32
CountXhow can i put dll's in wine?06:35
IntuitiveNippleI've confirmed your bug06:35
CountXlike, its saying that its missing dll's06:35
mosnoIntuitiveNipple: do i still need to add my bit or is it enough that it's confirmed? I got stuck replying to emails .. =\06:36
CountXerr:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\marcel\\Mindmanager\\xxxxxx.exe") not found06:36
CountXerr:module:import_dll Library MSVCP60.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\marcel\\Mindmanager\\xxxxx.exe") not found06:36
CountXerr:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\marcel\\Mindmanager\\xxxxx.exe" failed, status c000013506:36
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: Regarding fluendo-mp3, this might explain why (ISO reference implemenation) "Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin06:37
IntuitiveNippleThis GStreamer plugin permits decoding of MPEG 1 audio layer III06:37
IntuitiveNipplestreams.  It is derived from the ISO MPEG dist10 reference package."06:37
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IntuitiveNipplemosno, it'd help if more ppl confirm it ( Bug #140585 )06:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140585 in gsynaptics "[gnome-mouse-properties]  Sensitivity doesn't affect touchpad" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14058506:38
pwnguinim not sure what that means06:38
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Ahmucka filter in add/remove programs of kubuntu that would allow you to filter by popularity would be nice06:38
pwnguinits in universe06:38
pwnguinso either they're guilty of being bad or not06:39
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: well anything that is an International Standard Organisation reference, can't be patent encumbered06:39
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: so the question is, why isnt it in the default install?06:39
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: read this thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014419.html06:41
IntuitiveNipplethis is the 1st one: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014418.html06:41
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: it's already in universe though. fluendo doesnt care whether you put it in universe or main06:43
pwnguinso i have to imagine that has been taken care of06:43
CountXhas anyone gotten thier webcam to work on stickam.com?06:43
CountXcause i sure as hell cant06:43
IntuitiveNipplethat thread shows that the issue isn't patents (if the source code remains under the MIT license), the issue is linking non-GPLed code06:44
pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: i never said patents, you did06:44
IntuitiveNippleI know... that explains why it can be in universe, but not installed by default06:45
pwnguinhow?06:46
IntuitiveNipplethe MP3 decoder is exempt from patent licensing as it is kept under MIT license, but can't be linked with the GPL code for distribution, only by end-users06:46
pwnguinyou have a very strange definition of linked06:46
IntuitiveNippleGPL only applies to distribution remember, not end users06:46
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IntuitiveNippleread the thread, the Canonical/Ubuntu devs+legal worked it out06:47
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: http://www.linux.com/articles/5128106:48
pwnguinthe thread had like 3 posts in it06:49
pwnguinalso, it's a bit disingenous to write an article on linux.com on a debate you particpated in06:52
pwnguinas mr willis did06:52
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CountXcan anyone real quickly plz tell me how to add dll's to wine06:54
CountXis it in the .wine folder?06:54
mosnobrb, testing gsynaptics for the bug verify...06:54
h1st0CountX: yes the .wine folder is like the c: on a windows machine.  You need to register the dlls though I believe.06:54
pwnguinman, this list archive is crap at threading conversations06:54
h1st0CountX: the people in #winehq may be able to help you more than anyone here.06:54
h1st0pwnguin: all of them are06:55
pwnguingmail's pretty good at it06:55
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mosnook i updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/140585 , even though what i was initially talking about was a different thing i realised :)07:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140585 in gsynaptics "[gnome-mouse-properties]  Sensitivity doesn't affect touchpad" [Low,Confirmed] 07:01
mosnod'uh07:01
CountXdude i cant download anything07:02
CountXfirefox crashes07:02
CountXthis blows07:02
gnomefreakturn off compiz/desktop-effect and than see if its crashes if it does try running firefox -safe-mode and see if it crashes07:03
gnomefreakok off to bed night07:04
FrogzooCountX: uninstall flash, & see if it crashes..07:04
CountXstill crashes07:05
CountXeven with safe mode07:05
pwnguinCountX: can you run it from a terminal and see if there's any hints as to why it crashes?07:05
CountXSegmentation fault (core dumped)07:05
pwnguinon startup?07:06
pwnguinor after doing something?07:06
CountXno when i try and download anything07:06
gnomefreakmake sure you are not running compiz/ect... than try it07:06
CountXhow do i disable compiz without it crashing07:06
pwnguinCountX: pref->appearances07:06
pwnguinthere07:06
pwnguin's a desktop effects tab07:06
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gnomefreakif it still crashes please file a bug using firefoxes help report a bug (this is important that you do it this way07:07
pwnguinis compiz known to make firefox crash?07:08
underwatercowHow do you kill the compiz effects?07:08
gnomefreakand give me the bug number and ill look at it tomorrow (just type gnomefreak: bug number07:08
gnomefreakunderwatercow: go to apperences and click on no effects07:08
gnomefreaknight all07:08
IntuitiveNippleUsually it's plugins and bad profiles07:08
underwatercowgnomefreak: can I kill it by terminal? I don't want to disable it, I just think it's what is messing up wine07:08
IntuitiveNippleunderwatercow: blank windows ?07:09
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CountXok now all my font is like super small07:10
CountXand i cant read barely07:10
underwatercowIntuitiveNipple: No, when the game runs full screen, the gnome menus stay on top. I tried again later and the game ran fine... I think it was because compiz dies randomly and it happened to not be running07:10
IntuitiveNippleahhh... I wish I could get the gnome menu to stay on top :)07:10
underwatercowIntuitiveNipple: No you don't, lol... it messes up the game and makes it near impossible to play07:11
IntuitiveNippleThe drawers expand behind windows but they're still clickable :p07:11
IntuitiveNippleI have to play pin the mouse on the donkey :)07:11
underwatercowwhy is it that compiz dies randomly anyway?07:12
underwatercowis that a bug?07:12
IntuitiveNippleIt's been stable for me... what hardware are you using it with?07:12
underwatercowNvidia 8800GTS07:13
underwatercowwant any other hardware specs in particular?07:15
IntuitiveNippleIt is stable on this Vaios 760007:15
pwnguinthe 80 series is rather unstable i hear07:16
IntuitiveNippleBut I think I've seem some comments about nvidia drivers being unstable for 8xxx series07:16
pwnguinsomething about petitions asking for money back or vista drivers07:16
underwatercowlol07:17
IntuitiveNippleAmazing how nvidia would rather continue to get it in the neck for buggy drivers, and the cost that entails, than release open source specifications07:17
underwatercowI'm STILL waiting for creative to release drives07:17
underwatercowdrivers07:17
underwatercowfor their X-Fi07:17
underwatercowsupposed to be out this month or next07:17
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CountXall my font is tiny07:20
CountXhow do i make it bigger07:20
CountXhelp! :O07:20
pwnguinbug #14054007:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054007:21
CountXmy theme is also gone07:21
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CountXthe suggestion on there doesnt do anything07:23
underwatercowhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/107:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] 07:25
underwatercowlol07:26
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underwatercowthat's a good bug07:26
winbondcan i create a s link file within dolphin?07:26
CountXhow can i fix the font07:27
CountXits way to small07:27
CountXalmost too small to read07:27
CountXthe font dpi is at 9607:29
CountXam i just effed07:29
underwatercowwhy can't I see anything on my terminal?07:29
underwatercowthe font is small?07:30
CountXall my font is small...07:31
CountXand my theme is messed up07:31
CountXi think i fudged gnome07:31
CountXsomehow07:31
CountXits my fault07:31
XemanthCountX: i just updated my xubuntu gutsy and noticed weird change of fonts07:31
Xemanthmy fonts went way too big =)07:32
IntuitiveNippleCountX: try deleting the /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi key07:32
CountXhow07:32
CountXsry, im new to linux07:33
IntuitiveNippleAlt+F2 then the command "gconftool -u /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi"07:34
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underwatercowwhy did my terminal suddenly get a small font? it was fine a second ago?07:34
IntuitiveNippleIf that doesn't help snap them back to size, you've got another problem entirely07:34
IntuitiveNippleunderwatercow: bug #14054007:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054007:34
tazgodxcan anyone help me install drivers for my wireless card D-Link DWL-520+ on gutsy?07:34
CountXhow do i know if that works07:34
CountXits still the same07:35
IntuitiveNippleCountX: Then it didn't! If it had, the font-size would have changed immediately07:35
IntuitiveNippleCountX: So add it back: Alt+F2 then "gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 96"07:35
CountXok07:36
CountXits still very small07:37
CountXand my theme is still gone07:37
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CountXbut the window borders are still working] 07:37
underwatercowthanks, fixed now... it was caused by an update?07:37
IntuitiveNippleDid you alter the default theme, or is it that that has gone?07:37
CountXno07:37
CountXi had a linsta them07:37
CountXtheme07:37
IntuitiveNippleDoes the default theme work okay?07:38
CountXno07:38
CountXits like the matacity theme or something07:38
CountXits very blocky and edgy07:38
CountXthe gtk theme isnt applying at all07:39
CountXits as if i have a 37inch screen squeezed on my 15in laptop07:40
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pwnguinnot everyone's dpi is 9607:40
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pwnguinCountX: what resolution is that 15 inch screen?07:41
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CountXwell its a widescreen, 1440x90007:41
CountXso i think its a 17in07:42
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CountXdiagonal07:42
pwnguinthats a pretty important number07:42
CountXreally?07:42
CountXif you told me i would believe it, thats how little i know and how much i trust the uibuntu irc channel07:42
CountXi owe my life to some of the people on here07:43
pwnguinwell, dpi is pixels over inches07:43
pwnguin15 is smaller than 17 by enough to make a difference07:43
CountXi wish i would've copied down the handles of the people who have helped me07:43
CountXit was fine just before i restarted07:44
winbonddoes anyone have the gnash plugin for firefox workin at all?07:44
CountXi got a bunch of updates, then i restarted, and wham its all small07:44
tazgodxcan anyone help me install drivers for my wireless card D-Link DWL-520+ on gutsy?07:44
CountXwinbond: no i just installed flash07:44
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winbondCountX, , doesnt the terminal have an option to increase font size?07:45
CountXive had no luck with wireless07:45
CountXwinbond: im too new to know07:45
winbondCountX, im using kubuntu ,so dont know what in gnome07:46
CountXok wait07:46
winbondCountX, but try settings/font07:46
CountXthere was a couple error boxes hiding behind a window07:46
CountXone about cpu scaling unsupported07:46
CountXand the other was there was an error with starting the gnome settings daemon07:47
winbondCountX, do u have a overclocked pc?07:47
CountXThe settings daemon restarted too many times.07:47
CountXwinbond: no07:47
CountXwinbond: i only do that with my desktop because i can buy fans for it07:47
CountXim going to restart and see if that helps07:48
CountXit says it will try to restart the gnome settings daemon next login07:48
IntuitiveNippleCountX: the settings-daemon error would stop gconfd from being used to get the settings, which would explain your problems07:49
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CountXok that fixed it07:51
CountXjust a couple restarts07:51
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IntuitiveNipplegood :)07:51
CountXweee07:52
CountX:D07:52
CountXim happy now man07:52
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CountXBORG07:52
CountXyou better not say 'i"07:53
CountXi will call you on that07:53
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Xemanthi've really weird problem07:58
Xemanthmy external lacie harddrive doesn't automount in kubuntu after start07:58
Xemanthi need to switch it off and then put back on that kde notices it07:58
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fulioHi my desktop effects doesnt work, when ever i try to enable it , it says Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)08:01
Xemanthhmm-m actually now even doing off&on doesn't mount it08:02
Xemanthor notice it08:02
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Reabyi got also some really weird problems after todays update08:04
Reabycheck launchpad if somebody else has same bug08:04
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XemanthReaby: what kind of problems?08:05
Reabyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/14061108:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140611 in gnome-terminal "terminal window opens up either too wide or too small, then text is not visible (dup-of: 140540)" [Undecided,New] 08:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Confirmed] 08:05
winbondcan i report a bug here?08:05
Xemanththought you were talking about my hdd problem08:06
Xemanthwinbond: no08:06
Xemanthwinbond: https://bugs.launchpad.ne08:06
Xemanthwinbond: https://bugs.launchpad.net08:06
ReabyXemanth: nope08:06
Reabyi assume you have tried forums allready08:06
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fulioHi my desktop effects doesnt work, when ever i try to enable it , it says Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)08:07
XemanthReaby: yeah tried to search, its weird that problem doesn't occur on my laptop but it occurs on normal pc :|08:08
Xemanthi have two kubuntu gutsy computers08:09
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Reabyhave you checked dmesg, if kernel recognizes new usb periherial08:09
Reabyreplug hd and check dmesg08:10
IntuitiveNippleXemanth: do you have other USB devices connected to other ports on the same internal hub? If so, it could be a power starvation issue if the external drive isn't self-powered08:10
Xemanthyeah  founds08:10
XemanthIntuitiveNipple: it has external power08:10
IntuitiveNippleok, not that then :)08:10
Reabyso kernel founds it, but kde not..08:10
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Xemanthhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37760/08:11
jscinozIs there anyway to control which channel the mute command either from rightclicking the volume applet or from a multimedia key mutes? Currently it mutes "Front" but i want it to mute PCM, any ideas?08:11
XemanthReaby: check my paste08:12
winbondhow can i search through bugs to see if a problem was already reported?08:13
IntuitiveNipplehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/08:13
ReabyXemanth: done, i'm actually searching forums for automount, problem could be also in udev..08:14
Reabyor fstab08:14
Reabynot sure tho..08:14
IntuitiveNippleXemanth: check the syslog (System > Administration > System Log08:14
IntuitiveNippleYou might check the debug log too, in case of errors08:15
Xemanthyeah08:16
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IntuitiveNipplecompare the logs from the PC that does work, with the one that doesn't, and try to identify where they diverge08:17
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wayg http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/08:17
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XemanthIntuitiveNipple: yop08:19
ReabyXemanth: worth checking, tho it's for gnome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices08:21
Xemanthi might have figured something out hmm-m, i'll tell after i have booted my comp08:23
Reabyk08:23
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Xemanthnope, though that problem occured in one usb port... but didn't help changing to different connector08:28
Xemanththought*08:28
Reabyjscinoz: try System -> Settings -> Sound --> at bottom there is mixer default channels, you should be able to select there.08:28
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Xemanthat least now when i connect the hdd to usb kde finds it... but in boot its not automatically mounted08:32
jscinozReaby, cheers08:32
Reabyjust hope that console problem gets solved fast.08:38
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Reabyconsole problem is definetly font releated, i changed default fonts from sans to lucida sans, and console window doesn't appear to desktop08:47
Reaby:)08:47
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pwnguinok. totem doesn't turn off dpms09:02
pwnguinthere's a bug in launchpad about it09:02
RAOFpwnguin: Using Xgl?09:03
pwnguinin relation to totem?09:03
RAOFOr just in general.09:03
pwnguinim using compiz09:03
pwnguini havent gone out of my way to use xgl09:03
pwnguinor aiglx09:03
pwnguinso whatever came easiest is what im using09:03
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pwnguindid you want me to test something, or weree you attempting to help with what i brought up?09:04
pwnguinanyways, the point is, someone said it was fixable via turning off dpms permantently09:05
pwnguinand someoene else marked it against xorg and not gnome09:06
pwnguinis it bad ettique to assume that launchpad is the only place to discuss a bug, and revert the assignments?09:07
RAOFNo, I don't think so.09:07
RAOFpwnguin: Do you have xserver-xgl installed?09:08
RAOFIf you do, you've got it running.09:08
pwnguinRAOF: i highly doubt it09:08
pwnguinnvidida09:08
pwnguinnope09:09
RAOFYou might want to check.  Maybe you installed it sometime in the past?09:09
pwnguinnot running09:09
pwnguinjust the one x server09:09
RAOFOk.  So this bug isn't my problem then :)09:10
pwnguinah, heh09:10
pwnguinim pretty sure its not09:10
pwnguinbug 3096909:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 30969 in xorg "monitor goes to standby when playing a movie in totem fullscreen" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3096909:10
pwnguinmplayer manages to stop dpms09:10
pwnguin(it also manages to permenently end gnome-screensaver)09:11
winbonddid anyone get the gnash working with firefox?09:11
RAOFpwnguin: Really?  That's... suboptimal.09:11
pwnguinRAOF: indeed09:11
pwnguinbut there's many flaws with totem as well09:11
pwnguinsubtitles blink on09:11
pwnguinit doens't respect \n in subtitles09:11
pwnguinor {}09:11
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nurettinhello09:12
pwnguinwhich are usually used as comments09:12
nurettini am using gutsy09:12
nurettin7.1009:12
pwnguinexcellent09:12
pwnguinis it working well?09:12
nurettinin the morning come to me updates for gnome09:12
nurettinand i installed this updates but i can open terminal09:13
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pwnguinnurettin: i only know english, so i hope you can translate this back okay09:14
nurettinbut the letters not viewing.09:14
pwnguinah09:14
pwnguindifferent bug than i was thinking09:14
nurettini want uninstall morning updates how can i  do09:14
pwnguinnurettin: we dont do that in testing09:14
pwnguinthere is, however, a fix09:15
pwnguinbug #14054009:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054009:15
nurettinhow can i do fix09:15
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pwnguinthat url tells you how09:16
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nurettin_gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9609:19
Reabypwnguin: totem doesn't understand any other encoding than utf-8 in subtitles, just convert subs to that, fixed many problems for me09:21
nurettin_very thank you09:22
nurettin_my problem was resolved.09:22
nurettin_my console is running very good.09:22
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winbondwhats the command to check if an app has all the dependencies installed?09:27
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Reabyactually, my bad, you can actually change encoding in totem09:35
Reabymust be new feature, or then i haven't just noticed it before09:36
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ririHi09:39
slytherinriri: hi09:40
ririadept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel crashes all the time09:40
ririit starts well09:41
riribut when closing adept for looking updates it crashes in the shell09:41
pwnguinReaby: its not a text encoding issue09:42
Reabyach09:42
pwnguinnurettin_: please be sure to report any other issues you find -- with release coming out soon, it's best to get bugs fixed rather than leave em broken!09:43
pwnguinReaby: it's just that {} are used for translator notes09:43
slytherinriri: File a bug. :-)09:43
pwnguinand totem doesn't care09:43
pwnguinneither does vlc09:43
Reabyach09:44
Reabyok09:44
ririoj09:44
ririok09:44
pwnguinapparently a fansub group went to the effort to totally break a release just to prove a point09:44
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ririi already did it09:44
riribut sometimes they find an issue and another bug comes ! lol09:45
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ririi don't really need it09:45
riribut it's to have a clean command09:46
ririi don't find any valid tutorial on compiz-fusion ? do you know one ?09:47
ririframes disapear09:47
ririotherswise i am quiete happy with gutsy09:49
ririkde4beta2 doesn't seem much better than one...09:49
jussi01!compiz | riri09:50
uboturiri: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:50
ririthanks09:51
jussi01riri: there is a how to at that link09:51
riricompiz doesn't work09:52
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ririthis morning gutsy updates a lot09:53
ririand apparently my nvidia drivers (gf5200) was updated because i see the logo now09:53
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nurettin_hello09:58
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nurettin_sometimes my wireless network opening when log in session sometimes not opening why09:59
nurettin_thank you.09:59
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ohsonorrisyEek, can't anyone help me? I think I f'ed something up.09:59
slytherinohsonorrisy: Sorry to ask again, what is the problem?10:00
ohsonorrisyI, stupidly, installed gtk-theme-switch, played with some themes, and now GDM loads to a black screen.10:00
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ohsonorrisyXorg is fine (the NVIDIA splash is still coming up)10:00
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slytherinohsonorrisy: oops, no idea.10:01
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_4strOfi there10:03
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ohsonorrisyCan anyone help me with GDM?10:17
h1st0What is the problem with gdm10:17
ohsonorrisyAs of right now: Black screen. I can login, the panels flash for a second, the desktop turns back but I can still see the mouse pointer10:18
ohsonorrisyXorg is fine.10:18
h1st0ohsonorrisy: try looking in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf10:18
h1st0ohsonorrisy: you may be able to change the theme from there.  Or you can boot to recovery mode and startx10:19
ohsonorrisyOkay, I got my desktop to come up. But I can't open Appearence10:21
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ohsonorrisyThis has something to do with GTK2, but I'm not sure what the conflict is.10:23
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h1st0What were you doing when it broke?10:26
ohsonorrisyTrying to install a theme.10:26
h1st0ohsonorrisy: I had that problem but it would atleast default to human in gusty.10:27
ohsonorrisyIt isn't defaulting for some reason or another.10:27
h1st0ohsonorrisy: So you got to working again but appearence wont' open?10:27
ohsonorrisyYes10:27
h1st0ohsonorrisy: login manager config is under adminstration > Login Window10:28
ohsonorrisyI didn't have any trouble logging in.10:29
jscinozAzureus + Gutsy = :'(10:29
ohsonorrisyAnd it let me access the login manager10:29
ohsonorrisyjscinoz - I've had no trouble using Azureus in Gutsy10:29
jscinozUnder gutsy, if there are any files in ~/.azureus/logs azureus crashes on startup, and if you try to few the detailed torrent information the whole thing crashes10:29
jscinozohsonorrisy, can you help me fix it? what errors should i pastebin?10:29
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ohsonorrisyjscinoz: I'll help you as soon as I can figure out whatever is going on with me10:30
jscinozalrighty10:30
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h1st0ohsonorrisy: so the login window is working now correct?10:32
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ohsonorrisyI never had a problem with the login window.10:32
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ohsonorrisyI could get to the login window, login, then the desktop wouldn't load correctly.10:33
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leperkhanzAnyone want to help me figure out why every time I log on I get a .dmrc error, and then subsequently do not have direct rendering?10:33
leperkhanzIs there something I can uninstall and reinstall to fix it?10:34
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marek`hey10:37
marek`how come openoffice doesnt correct my spelling10:38
marek`even when i click spell check10:38
marek`it always says that words are no words are misspelled10:38
h1st0ohsonorrisy: oh well then you didnt' have a problem with gdm10:42
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ohsonorrisyI logged into GNOME fail-safe and still I can't access apperance10:50
ohsonorrisySomething is themeing the panels still.10:50
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ohsonorrisyWhere are themes installed to?10:59
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nikolamHello11:03
nikolamOpenoffice does not work for me,11:03
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Jowican someone verify if package "etoile" is in gutsy universe?11:04
nikolamEven for 7.04 after upgrades, and also not for Tribe5 with all newes updates!11:04
nikolamBut I can use Ooo as unpriviledged user account no211:04
HobbseeJowi: it is11:04
Hobbseebinaries are: wildmenus.app, dictionaryreader.app, camaelon.app, wildmenus.bundle, camaelon-data11:04
nikolamE.g. every user account that is used for administrative purposes cant use Ooo11:05
JowiHobbsee, strange that ubotu didn't find it. Was thinking about trying etoile but it seems only gutsy have the base requirements.11:05
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HobbseeJowi: it probably looks by binaries, not source.11:05
JowiHobbsee, ah, good point. cheers.11:06
nikolamJowi: U can use packages.ubuntu.org for search11:06
nikolamSo , is Ooo working for you?11:06
Jowinikolam, yeah, but I was lazy and already logged into freenode :)11:06
Jowiis anyone running gutsy on intel core duo man-mini in here?11:07
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Jowis/man-mini/mac-mini11:07
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nikolamNope, but I heard that you need apple software for that. Boot camp I suppose or so. U can use both MacOS and Linux then11:08
Jowinikolam, nah. I boot edgy on one right now. no need for apple software if you want to run a pure ubuntu setup. just create an MBR partition and off you go.11:09
Jowionly needed for dualboot. bootcamp for Win+drivers or rEFIt for dualboot linux.11:10
nikolamThat `s great, But It you want to also have MacoS and windblows and Linux? :))11:10
nikolamOk11:10
Jowiactually I have XP installed on it (dualbooting using GRUB the normal way) but I have only used it once to test. and i didn't like OSX.11:11
nikolamSo is Ooo (open office) working for anyone (anyone)? :)11:11
nikolamJowi: nicce :) But it seems rather silly to buy expensive laptop like Apple.11:12
nikolamAnd not to have Macos around.11:13
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nikolamSo, does OpenOffice.org work at you there, guys?11:14
Jowiit's a mac-mini. I bought it for the hardware, not the software. It's tiny, silent, low energy consumption (important features for a home server that is on 24/7).11:14
Jowiespecially important when wife a kid runs around the server-room/living-room ;-)11:14
nikolamJowi: I think it is wise thing for home machine. i myself love when comp. is silent and small :) Great.11:15
pwnguinanyone with a laptop?11:15
pwnguingnome-power-manager seems to only black the display11:15
pwnguinrather than turn off the backlight11:16
Jowinikolam, yep. and bonus feature that it runs ubuntu that my wife can't live without. I installed Hoary for her after her Win install blew up and she's been a linux (desktop only) user ever since.11:17
Jowianyway. gonna download gutsy to try it out. makes a nice project for tonight.11:18
Jowisee y'all later (in gutsy i hope)11:18
nikolamI reely dont need windblows for desktop use anymore. I there isnt games or some specialized apps like autocad or photoshop, most users would switch to linux permanently. Desktop is here :)11:18
nikolamGutsy is not Stable.11:19
nikolamuse at your own risk.11:19
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Jowithat's obvious. :)11:19
nikolamCould install on separate partition or try to run it in xen..11:19
pwnguinnikolam: it's too bad certain developers want to push compiz11:19
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pwnguinwhen it interacts poorly with gl apps11:19
Jowiyeah. XP I never use anyway so I will use that partition.11:20
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nikolamJowi: And games? :)11:20
nikolamI have separate partition for /boot and i needed to backup files from it before installing gutsy.11:21
nikolamgutsy needs to erase /boot partition if it is on separate partition. then I got back backup kernels from old /boot and added /boot/grub/menu.lst portion for 7.0411:22
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h1st0You could tell it not to install grub nikolam11:38
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Tak4hey people11:39
Tak4active people here ? =)11:39
h1st0yeah] 11:40
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Tak4lol11:40
Tak4:d11:40
Tak4tell me people i'm looking for some help11:40
Tak4I've got a bug i already had with edgy but I don't know how to fix11:40
h1st0What is the bug11:41
Tak4I run with a nvidia graphic card11:41
Tak4and with dual screen11:41
h1st0!enter | Tak411:41
ubotuTak4: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:41
Tak4excuse me, wrong habitude. so, all is quite alright but I can't launch gnome-terminal11:42
h1st0Do you get any errors?11:42
Tak4hm I'ven't already to launch it in another space11:43
Tak4i'll try11:43
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Tak4please where can I paste the error I get ?11:44
h1st0!paste | Tak411:44
ubotuTak4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:44
Tak4thanks11:45
Tak4http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37770/11:45
Tak4I know (I believe) it's a RandR problem with nvidia driver and gnome-term, I remember it was the same with edgy, but no idea of how fixing it11:46
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Tak4(I believed that nvidia driver was now "compatible" witht RandR ...)11:46
Tak4no-one to have an indication ? : / ?11:47
h1st0Tak4: what drivers are you using?11:49
Tak4nvidia-glx11:49
Tak4do you think I may try Nouveau driver ?11:49
h1st0What nvidia card do you have?11:50
pwnguinnvidia and nv are randr compatible11:52
pwnguini know because im writing a patch to make nv "more" compatible11:52
h1st0Tak4: I would file a post on the forums.  For a discussion and file a bug.11:53
Tak4pwnguin: not with dualscreen11:54
Tak4ok h1st0 thanks I'll try to do this : /11:54
pwnguinTak4: indeed11:54
Tak4thanks anyway :)11:54
pwnguinlaunchpad might be a better place to start11:54
pwnguinno sense waiting for a forum discussion if there's already developer activity logged in lp11:55
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Tak4pwnguin: I'm not really looking for a patch, more for a solution11:57
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nikolamIt seems that my xubuntu desktop is upgradeable from 2.41 to 2.46 but It is grayed in update manager. What it means when it`s grayed?12:07
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rojanuHi! yesterday after an update fonts on some apps are not readable12:13
Jordan_Urojanu, Have you checked launchpad for bugs already filed?12:13
rojanuno,12:14
rojanubut I searched the forums12:14
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rojanudid a search nothing12:20
sylverfoxhi all12:20
sylverfoxI have a problem with the terminal in Gutsy, am I in the good place to ask for help?12:21
jussi01sylverfox: yes, ask away12:22
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sylverfoxmy font type became unreadable12:22
sylverfoxit's too small12:22
sylverfoxI even can't see it12:23
sylverfoxjust a point blinking12:23
sylverfox(?cursor?)12:23
jussi01sylverfox: have you looked in the terminal settings? ( i assume you are talking about gnome terminal)12:23
sylverfoxyes12:23
sylverfoxI can give any parameters at font12:24
sylverfoxthe situation remains the same12:24
jussi01sylverfox: also you should take note of what it says in the topic...12:24
sylverfoxI can't use the commands12:24
sylverfoxbecause the terminal is unusable12:25
sylverfoxother problems I didn't meet12:25
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Trewasbug 140540 has already 15 duplicates so the current font problems are known12:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054012:26
rojanusylverfox: i had the same problem please do (ALT+F2) and type gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9612:26
sylverfoxwoau12:27
sylverfoxwhat a great place to be12:27
sylverfoxit's ok now12:27
sylverfoxthnaks rojanu12:27
sylverfox:-)12:27
jussi01:)12:28
jussi01glad you got helped12:28
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sylverfoxI have a nother question12:29
sylverfoxshould I use apt-get autoremove anytime12:29
sylverfox?12:29
sylverfoxit won't damage my system?12:30
sylverfoxwill only remove unusable packages?12:30
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sylverfoxthanks all12:35
sylverfoxbye12:35
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SpadsHALP.  I can't run gnome-terminal because the fonts seem to be not there.  Everything else seems to work except the font selection dialog.  I'm absolutely on the latest goats^H^H^H^H^Hgutsy12:37
HobbseeSpads: https://launchpad.net/bugs/140540 ?12:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released] 12:38
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jussi01Spads: run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9612:39
jussi01that will fix it12:39
mikiand i heve problem with  terminal in gutsy , i start use xterm12:39
jussi01just alt+f2 it12:39
jussi01miki: run that command i just gave to Spads12:39
Spadsjussi01: genius, thanks.12:40
jussi01:)12:40
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HobbseeSpads: btw, thanks in advance for making the VOIP support at UDS boston rock, so that it's usable for us who are not there.12:42
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mikijussi01:thanks12:43
SpadsHobbsee: That'll be Ng, actually :)  He and I trade off UDSes so we each do one a year.  I was Seville, and he was Mountain View.12:43
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HobbseeSpads: ahhh....12:44
HobbseeSpads: oh yes, and you did paris.  right.12:44
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Spadsactually I was still living in the US during Paris12:45
Spadsthat was all elmo back then12:45
Spadsand to be fair he does more than a little at all UDSes12:45
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HobbseeSpads: i could have sworn that it was you helping me out with the VOIP for paris..12:47
Hobbseehiya Ng12:47
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NgHobbsee: hey :)12:47
SpadsHobbsee: I promise you I was in Oakland, California then.12:48
Hobbseehmm12:48
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rojanuis anybody using NVIDIA drivers?12:59
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jussi01!anyone | rojanu01:01
uboturojanu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:01
jussi01rojanu: there are a great many people using them. what do you want to ask?01:02
rojanuwell here we go then, I am having problems with the nvidia driver, I get a chessboard like disturbed squares all over my screen01:03
rojanuhave look at it here http://malinux.homelinux.com/apache2-default/01:05
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rockyjust checking before i go looking... are there known font problems in recent gutsy ?01:09
rockyas of yesterday, my fonts are really messed up ;)01:09
rojanurock, run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9601:10
gnubunturojanu: how old is your nvidia graphic card? looks like a hardware problem.01:10
rockyrojanu: actually... i think my dpi is supposed to be much higher than 96 ... i'm running 1900x1200 res on a 15.4" laptop display01:11
rockyhow can i calculate what my font should be01:11
rockyerr... what my dpi should be?01:11
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jussi01rojanu: you sure your cable is plugged in all the way?01:13
rojanujussi01: I am sure because now I switched back to nv and wosks OK01:14
jussi01ahah01:14
jussi01rojanu: what model is your card?01:15
rojanu06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GTS (rev a1)01:15
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JDahldid someone else experience problems with gnome-terminal after the latest upgrade?  The window size is *tiny*,  and CTRL++ doesn't seem to work01:19
jussi01rojanu: the 8600 gt isnt supported by the restricted driver01:19
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jussi01JDahl: run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9601:19
jussi01from alt+f201:19
rockythat command fixed my fonts just nicely, thanks all01:19
jussi01:)01:20
rojanujussi01: it was working ok until an update about a week ago, I think it has something to do with xorg server not the driver01:20
rockybut here's a new question... over the past several weeks i've found that when i log into gnome on my laptop my eth0 is configured properly by NetworkManager (that is i have an ip, and i can access local LAN resources) but routing or something similar is messed up as i can't access the internet ...01:20
rockydoes this sound familiar to anyone?01:20
rojanubut can't quite put my finger on it!!!01:20
jussi01rojanu: weird, because the wiki says that card is not supported...01:21
jussi01!ati | rojanu01:21
uboturojanu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:21
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JDahlthanks!01:21
jussi01JDahl: :)01:22
rojanuI have checked on NVIDIA web site and it is supported by the driver version I am using - Version: 100.14.1101:23
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jussi01rojanu: thats weird. I dont know then. sorry. ( i run ati)01:23
rockyok can someone explain to me what "Enable roaming mode" is for on a device in network settings?01:24
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JDahlanother thing I've noticed since the last upgrade is that tapping my "mouse-area" on the laptop no longer produces mouseclicks - maybe that's actually the "correct" behaviour because I have a bluetooth mouse connected, but it's something new01:25
rojanuI am not to sure but roaming for network should give you the ability of setting more than one static IP address, but that just a gues01:28
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slackern!upgrade | sander_01:33
stdinsander_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4 (for Kubuntu)01:33
ubotusander_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:33
stdinthose instructions are gnomeified :p01:34
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slackernhehe was just wondering if they added a separate bot for kubuntu :)01:34
sander_how far is kubuntu lagging behind ubuntu?01:34
jussi01stdin: a bot...lol01:35
stdinno, my bot's called subot :p01:35
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mtfuchshi01:35
jussi01lol01:35
mtfuchsgot a problem installing gutsy tribe 5 amd64 alternate:  The CD-ROM drive contains a CD which cannot be used for installation.01:35
sander_I mean there are special tools written for ubuntu (like that new xorg config tool) how much of these tools intergrate well with kubuntu?01:36
gnomefreakmtfuchs: sounds either like a bad cd or a used cd, try new cd and make sure md5sums of the  ISO matches whats on hte site01:37
mtfuchsok.01:37
gnomefreakafaik last nights alternate was too bing to use anyway01:37
stdinsander_: normally if they are written for gnome (normally with pygtk) then they need to be ported (to use pyqt), so it can be a bit laggy01:38
gnomefreakthey were all > 700mb01:38
mtfuchsand another quesion as I need to download new anyway: do you suggest using 64 bit or 32 bit?01:38
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gnomefreakmtfuchs: 64 bit now has apps to use flash and stuff but there is still some things that 32 bit can use and 64 cnat01:38
mtfuchsok. no speed advantages or something with 64 bit?01:39
Jordan_Ugnomefreak, There isn't much that you can't run in a 32 bit chroot though01:39
stdinfor an easy life 32bit, for 4+GB ram and high precision mathematical processing 64bit01:39
gnomefreakJordan_U: im talking without chroots01:39
Jordan_Umtfuchs, Not with normal Desktop use or < 4 GIG RAM01:40
Jordan_Ugnomefreak, I know01:40
mtfuchsmh, ok. I have 2 GB RAM now. want to upgrade in the future. what happens with 32 bit and > 4 GB RAM?01:40
stdinit just won't use all of it, 3.5GB is what (i think) it will use01:41
stdinunless you recompile the kernel, then it can use 4+GB in 32bit01:41
stdindon't know the disadvantages of that tho (if any)01:41
mtfuchsok. compiling the kernel is no problem at all. have done that for years with gentoo.01:41
mtfuchsso I will fetch an 32 bit alternate now.01:42
gnomefreakdownside you wont get ubuntu patches for your hand built kernel01:42
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sander_kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade" isn't working..01:42
sander_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16701:42
sander_  Major opcode:  14401:42
sander_  Minor opcode:  301:42
stdin!paste | sander_01:42
ubotusander_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:42
sander_  Resource id:  0x001:42
sander_Failed to open device01:42
sander_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16701:42
sander_  Major opcode:  14401:42
sander_  Minor opcode:  301:42
sander_  Resource id:  0x001:42
sander_Failed to open device01:42
sander_kinda weird01:42
stefgmtfuchs: even the 32bit *server*-kernel will manage 4 GB01:43
sander_yeah I know.. sorry!01:43
stdinthat's not an error, ignore it01:43
sander_well it's not doing anything after that :)01:43
mtfuchsgnomefreak: I could get the deb src of the ubuntu kernel and change the config then I would have the ubuntu pateches.01:43
gnomefreakmtfuchs: and you would have to rebuild for every atch added after you built it01:44
gnomefreaks/atch/patch01:44
stefgmtfuchs: no, because the linux-source .deb is always outdated. you'd need a git-pull out ouf ubuntus kernel tree01:44
gnomefreaksince we are not done with updates i dont advise it01:44
gnomefreakstefg: either way he would have to add the new patches and rebuild01:45
stdinsander_: did you use run: kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel" ?01:45
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leperkhanzanyone else getting rhythmbox crashes?01:45
stefgmtfuchs: so if you upgrade your ram you could simply switch to the prebuilt *-server images01:45
sander_kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"01:46
sander_that's what I tried (as suggested on this website: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4 )01:47
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stdinsander_: try that command tho01:47
mtfuchsstefg: do they perform good on the desktop? such things as preemption etc?01:48
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zetheroowill Gutsy have a solution for TV out?01:49
sander_I did.. same result01:50
jscinozHey guys if i have a choice of using the normal java version or the GCJ version of an application which should i use?01:50
stefgmtfuchs: haven't had much opportunity to test that. i assume they are not overoptimzed for big iron, because 4GB on the desktop isn't such a rare usage scenario these days01:51
jscinozi have 4gb on my laptop :P01:51
sander_stdin: for some reason it doesn't even start adapt_manager01:52
sander_even without these command line parameters01:52
sander_and this is a fresh install...01:52
sander_:(01:52
zetheroowill Gutsy have a solution for TV out?01:52
sander_launching it from the menu will work01:52
mtfuchsstefg: ok. not much to worry about then. now I just need to wait another 4 hours to finish downloading.01:52
leperkhanzHow about recording TV.  I still can't vid off of my camera... *sigh*01:53
sander_zetheroo: It will have xorg 7.3 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xorg7.3Integration )01:53
stdinsander_: you may need to have feisty-proposed enabled01:54
sander_stdin: sorry?01:54
stdinsander_: the repository 'feisty-proposed'01:54
sander_will check for that01:54
sander_tnx01:54
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gnomefreakit will work without adding them01:55
gnomefreakif it fails it will fail with or without them01:56
sander_gnomefreak: but why doesn't adept_manager start?01:56
sander_that's the main problem right now01:56
sander_I'll try to login again.. perhaps this session is screwed?!01:56
gnomefreaksander_: off hand how would i know i dont know your error or how you are starting it version numbers ect...01:56
Jordan_Ugnomefreak, You need feisty-proposed to get the newer version of update-manager to be able to upgrade to Gutsy through update-manager01:56
mtfuchsdoes gutsy finally support entering passwords for encrypted partitions without leaving usplash?01:57
Jordan_Umtfuchs, nope, still using usplash01:57
gnomefreakJordan_U: the one shipped in main is fine (atleast it is everytime i upgrade to gutsy) its been a few dozen times01:57
Jordan_Umtfuchs, And I have no idea why01:57
Jordan_Usplashy > usplash in almost every way01:57
mtfuchsJordan_U: you mean leaving?01:57
mtfuchsah, that you mean.01:58
mtfuchsI am not interested in which solution it uses just if it leaves usplash for entering a password to decrypt a partition.01:58
gnomefreakadept isnt the best to use anyway there is an update-manager for kde to upgrade to gutsy last i heard01:58
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penguincentralhi.  i am running 7.10alpha5, and my system is completely updated.  When i go into the terminal, there is no prompt in the window, and the window is smaller than what it normally is.  Can anyone help?02:00
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mtfuchsusplash is only used in ubuntu, or does any other distro use it?02:00
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Jordan_Upenguincentral, Please look at already filed bugs in launchpad02:01
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penguincentralJordan_U, so it's an already known bug?02:01
Hobbseepenguincentral:  https://launchpad.net/bugs/140540 ?02:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released] 02:02
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mtfuchscan I use an external hdd plugged in via usb to install ubuntu somehow?02:03
soundrayGuys, have you tried opening a Microsoft Office XML file in oowriter and saving it as ODT?02:03
jussi01penguincentral: just alt + f2 and run this: run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9602:03
penguincentralthanks Hobbsee, Jordan_U, ubotu (did you follow me to this room ubotu?)02:03
jussi01!bot | penguincentral02:03
ubotupenguincentral: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:03
sander_well restarting the x session worked :)02:03
soundrayFails here with an error writing styles.xml02:03
sander_hmm except that it couldn't "verify the integrety of the upgrader program"02:04
penguincentralit's a bloody intelligent bot02:04
jussi01damn, where is that factoid now...02:07
jaysonsantosHi people, after the last update of gusty today, i can't see (they is so small) the fonts of my gnome terminal, exists some config for that ?02:07
jussi01jaysonsantos: run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9602:08
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jaysonsantosussi01, thanks02:08
jussi01:)02:09
jaysonsantosMy ubuntu detect my ethernet card like a wlan0 not eth0 where is the configuration ?02:09
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HobbseeFireHazard17: ?02:10
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FireHazard17Hobbsee: what?02:11
HobbseeFireHazard17: why the bot?02:11
FireHazard17Hobbsee: why not?02:11
penguincentralhi for those that need a backup terminal, run xterm02:11
HobbseeFireHazard17: what is it's purpose?02:12
jussi01penguincentral: why? the fix is provided for the gnome terminal problem...02:12
FireHazard17Hobbsee: i dont think it has one yet02:12
FireHazard17Hobbsee: right now i just sent it here to learn some words02:12
penguincentraljussi01: oh yeah, has gutsy been updated to fix this? the special run command didn't work for me02:13
HobbseeFireHazard17: bots that make any noise get kickbanned, as usually do their owners.02:13
HobbseeFireHazard17: especially over multiple channels02:13
jussi01penguincentral: did you read the bug? it said fix commited iirc02:13
HobbseeFireHazard17: so be warned.02:13
Jordan_UFireHazard17, You can use the logs to have it learn new words also02:13
FireHazard17...02:14
Jordan_UFireHazard17, It would be faster too02:14
HobbseeFireHazard17: and see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:14
FireHazard17is set him so he doesn't say anything02:14
jussi01bug 140540 > penguincentral02:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054002:16
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LjLFireHazard17: as long as he doesn't say anything, ever, he's fine -- but then again, expect people to question you about someone called "Flamebot"02:16
FireHazard17...02:16
FireHazard17ok02:16
LjLFireHazard17: the moment it says a word though, you'll be in trouble, so make very sure it doesn't02:16
penguincentraljussi01, i'm trying to scan through the bloody bug report.  please give me a moment before i get pissed off.02:16
jussi01penguincentral: sorry. I was just making sure you had the bug report.02:17
jussi01:)02:17
penguincentraljussi01: that's ok :)02:17
jussi01it can be a real pain to find on lp sometimes,02:17
LjLFireHazard17: besides, a bot running on mirc... come on02:17
FireHazard17it isnt02:18
penguincentraljussi01: nowhere does it quote "fix commited iirc"02:18
FireHazard17i am running in the newest irssi i built myself and he is a bot written in python02:18
FireHazard17running in python02:18
penguincentralalthough under status jussi01 it says fix released, but i'm not so sure on that02:18
jussi01penguincentral: read what ubotu just quoted.... end of the line...02:19
LjLFireHazard17: then i see no need to fake the version reply02:19
FireHazard17i havent read his reply yet02:19
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LjL[14:19:55]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from FlameBot: VERSION mIRC32 v5.6 K.Mardam-Bey.02:20
penguincentraljussi01: what? <jussi01> !bot | penguincentral02:20
penguincentral<ubotu> penguincentral: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots.02:20
FireHazard17LjL: i dint write him02:20
penguincentraljussi01: are you an "all knowing infobot"?02:20
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jussi01penguincentral: no, bug 14054002:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054002:20
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LjLFlameBot: i hope your Python is sane02:20
penguincentraljussi01: are you seeing things?02:21
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jussi01penguincentral:  Launchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released] 02:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054002:22
penguincentraljussi01: aha, and what is the fix aside from the gconftool command that for me DOESN'T WORK02:22
penguincentralgod i hate bots :(02:22
Picipenguincentral: but they love you02:24
jussi01lol02:24
penguincentralPici:  do bots love you? do they kiss you and tuck you in at night?02:24
Jordan_Upenguincentral, YEs02:24
penguincentralrofl02:25
penguincentralyou are all hilarious02:25
jussi01penguincentral: when was the last time you updated?02:26
penguincentralmaybe one or two hours ago, why jussi01?02:26
jussi01penguincentral: I was just noticing the las comment from sebastian bacher on that bug.02:27
penguincentraljussi01: i've done an update check, and i'm updated. what about that comment?02:27
jussi01which was only 2 minuts ago02:27
jeffferrarihey anyone here using a touchpad? Last update stopped my scrolling02:27
jussi01penguincentral: it should have been fixed with the update02:27
jussi01penguincentral: is your mirror up to date? ( you could try using main if not)02:28
penguincentraljussi01: what update? my update manager says that i am up to date.  I am using the Australian mirror (proudly aussie)02:28
Ax-Ax18 October?02:28
penguincentraljeffferrari: no i don't use one, i'm a disgruntled pc user ;)02:28
jussi01penguincentral: ok. however the aussie mirror may not be up to date/have the fix uploaded to it yet02:28
jeffferraripenguincentral: rofl - big pain while I'm on the bus heading for work02:28
jeffferraripenguincentral: scrolling is soooo hard with a fatty next to you02:29
penguincentraljeffferrari: rofl02:29
penguincentraljussi01: i would still be syncing to both my local mirror and the main mirror, right?02:29
FireHazard17jeffferrari: hay! that fatty is me!02:29
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penguincentralFireHazard17: rofl02:30
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jussi01penguincentral: no. if you change your repo it syncs to whatever you change it to. however you could also just wait...02:30
ratpoisonhello, gutsy amd64 fglrx ati user. I can't change the GDM theme. any help please?02:31
penguincentraljussi01: which do you prefer, the main mirror, or the local mirror?02:31
FireHazard17i prefer the united states one02:31
jussi01penguincentral: atm, i am using the finnish mirror. however I sometimes use the main mirror as the finnish one is like 1 week behind02:31
FireHazard17mainly becuase im in the united states02:31
penguincentraljussi01: yeah, i am on the aussie mirror02:32
jeffferrariactually looks like the driver is totally gone... no scroll, double tap, drag, etc02:32
jeffferrari:(02:32
penguincentralum, i'll try the main mirror, see how that goes.02:33
jussi01penguincentral: good luck :)02:33
penguincentralthanks jussi0102:33
jussi01jeffferrari: seems some others having the same issue02:33
jeffferrarijussi01: what package is it related to?02:33
jeffferrarijussi01: synaptic?02:33
jussi01jeffferrari: Im not certain02:34
penguincentrali must be the only one in this room that doesn't have a laptop ;)02:34
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jussi01anyway -->> back to work02:34
FireHazard17penguincentral: i dont02:34
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penguincentralFireHazard17: thanks02:34
penguincentral;)02:34
penguincentralok jussi01, on the main server, now to check for updates02:35
penguincentraljussi01: woo-hoo! 49 updates02:35
jussi01penguincentral: what did i tell you ;)02:35
penguincentraljussi01: that the main server is the most up to date?02:36
FireHazard17any one know where i can legally obtain a dictionary?02:36
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jussi01penguincentral: i beleive so02:36
jussi01!find dictionary02:36
jeffferrari!info XOrg-Driver-Synaptics02:36
ubotuFound: aspell-bg, aspell-br, aspell-ca, aspell-cs, aspell-cy (and 124 others)02:37
penguincentralFireHazard17: go to applications>accessories>dictionary02:37
ubotuPackage xorg-driver-synaptics does not exist in gutsy02:37
penguincentraldoes anyone here like bots?02:37
penguincentralseriously02:37
jussi01penguincentral: they are very useful02:37
jeffferraripenguincentral: only the female one in the bed next to me that does the cleaning02:37
FireHazard17penguincentral: i hate ubotu if its any consolation02:37
penguincentralFireHazard17: thanks02:37
penguincentraljussi01: grr the main server is so sloooooow02:38
FireHazard17penguincentral: i mean is there a text file i can use?02:38
jussi01penguincentral: give it a break, its on the other side of the world to you...02:38
FireHazard17just full of words not definitions02:38
penguincentralnow it's picked up02:38
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penguincentralFireHazard17: no, i got a definition: asshole02:39
penguincentralasshole02:39
penguincentral n 1: insulting terms of address for people who are stupid or02:39
penguincentral irritating or ridiculous [syn: bastard, cocksucker,02:39
penguincentral dickhead, shit, mother fucker, prick,02:39
penguincentral whoreson, son of a bitch, 2: excretory opening at the end of the alimentary canal [syn: anus,02:39
penguincentral arse, arsehole] 02:39
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jussi01!language02:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:39
jussi01penguincentral: be very careful....02:39
FireHazard17ubotu: DIEEEEEEE!!!!!02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dieeeeeee!!!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:39
penguincentralit's fun to taunt ubotu02:39
jussi01!botabuse | penguincentral02:40
ubotupenguincentral: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:40
penguincentralmaybe the bot is right...02:40
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FireHazard17kickbanned!02:40
HobbseeFireHazard17: behave.02:40
penguincentral!botabuse | jussi0102:41
FireHazard17me?!02:41
ubotujussi01: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:41
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HobbseeFireHazard17: both of you.02:41
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FireHazard17i didnt do anything02:41
FireHazard17besides yell at the bot02:41
HobbseeFireHazard17: telling bots to die isnt exactly helpful02:41
FireHazard17he asked for it?02:41
FireHazard17ok fine02:41
penguincentralsee ya FireHazard1702:41
FireHazard17ill just ignore the stupid bot02:41
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penguincentrallet's all apologise to the bot...02:43
jussi01no, please leave it alone02:43
stdinbetter to get back on topic02:43
penguincentralstdin: agreed02:43
PiciSo whats with all these issues I keep hearing about gnome-terminal.  I haven't had any problems.02:44
penguincentralPici: you must be updated or haven't updated yet ;)02:44
jussi01Pici: how far behind is your mirror and when did you last update... :P02:44
PiciI updated/upgraded and rebooted 10 hours ago02:45
PiciAnd I was fine.02:45
penguincentraljussi01, Pici: yep, time for an update02:45
penguincentralPici: are you set to the main server, or a local mirror?02:46
PiciHmm.. I'm upgrading my other box here right now.  I'll take a look when its done.02:46
jussi01Pici: bug was reported ~15 hours ago...02:46
FireHazard17ubotu's source code is freely availible is it not?02:46
jussi01FireHazard17: yes02:46
PiciFireHazard17: Yes, it is.02:46
penguincentralFireHazard17, jussi01, Pici: can we please ignore the bot?02:47
FireHazard17what?02:47
penguincentralbtw my terminal is now working fine02:47
jussi01penguincentral: :)02:47
penguincentralFireHazard17, Pici: please stop talking about the bloody bot02:47
jussi01penguincentral: just /ignore ubotu02:48
PiciFireHazard17: If you have any more questions about the bot, lets talk about in #ubuntu-offtopic02:48
Picipenguincentral: Drop it. we will.02:48
LjLpenguincentral: it's a supybot, not a bloodybot02:48
stdinFireHazard17: or #ubuntu-bots , but not here02:48
penguincentraljussi01, stdin, Pici: i second your statements02:49
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Hobbseethere.02:50
penguincentralHobbsee: thanks02:51
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penguincentralso, does anyone know what happened to the alpha6 release of gutsy?02:52
Hobbseepenguincentral: but you should be mature enough not to need it.  you and FireHazard1702:52
PiciI have a factoid for it, but someone muted the bot.02:52
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Picipenguincentral: There is none, its a bug fixing milestone only.02:53
penguincentralHobbsee: true, but can we please move on from the bot fiasco02:53
penguincentralPici: thanks02:53
Hobbseepenguincentral: please read the /topic02:53
penguincentralHobbsee: just read it, about to look at tinyurl02:53
penguincentralso now I know why02:54
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Toma-why was the bot muted?02:55
Toma-did it finally start standing up for itself? :>02:55
penguincentralToma-: no no no, just a little incident that happened earlier.02:56
penguincentraleverything is alright02:56
Toma-oic02:56
penguincentralcool02:56
penguincentralnow, back to the topic...02:56
Toma-thank goodness i have a scroll bar02:56
penguincentralyes Toma-, i assume that you read it02:57
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HobbseeToma-: because people were immature enough not to be able to handle having a bot in the room.03:05
webjamesmy touch pad can no longer scroll any one else got this problem?03:06
penguincentralHobbsee: it's dragged on far enough03:06
penguincentralwebjames: some other people have had this same problem.  it may be a bug for all i know...03:07
webjamesi'll have a search around, thanks penguincentral03:07
penguincentralwebjames: anytime ;)03:07
Jordan_UAnyone know if Bulletproof X has progressed beyond the thread on the Gnome mailing list, if not then there hasn't been any change for about a week and I have been faultily trying to hack at it myself and it does  not seem trivial. I really hope it isn't deferred03:10
Jordan_U*futiliy03:10
penguincentralJordan_U: what is Bulletproof X?03:10
webjamesokay, if you goto: gnome-control-center and then mouse then touchpad you can re-enable the scrolling and tap to click03:11
Jordan_Upenguincentral, http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/BulletProofX/03:11
penguincentralthanks Jordan_U03:11
webjamesi now have a problem with small text in my terminal03:11
penguincentralwebjames: i can help you03:12
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webjamespenguincentral: thank you03:12
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penguincentralan update needs to be done webjames03:12
fermatHello all, I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 and after today's update I cannot use gnome-terminal anymore - the characters are not displayed, I can enter text and start apps, but cant see the terminal output. has anybody similar problems?03:12
penguincentralyou need to check one thing webjames03:12
webjamesjust done one, 42 updates03:12
webjamesmaybe a restart?03:12
penguincentralwebjames: yeah, sounds about right.  earlier 49, no reboot03:12
penguincentralwebjames: are you syncing to the main server, or your local mirror?03:13
webjamesthe server for the UK03:13
fermatI just figured out that the characters in skype aren't displayed either...!03:13
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penguincentralwebjames: use the main server.03:13
webjamespenguincentral: done. checking now03:14
penguincentralwebjames: it's a good idea also to go into synaptic and reloading if you get nothing in the updates scan03:14
webjamespenguincentral: there is no updates03:15
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penguincentralwebjames: to be sure, go into synaptic, and press reload03:15
webjamespenguincentral: just done that03:16
penguincentralwebjames: is your terminal working now?03:16
webjamesnope03:16
webjamessmall text still03:16
mikismall fonts:  gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9603:16
penguincentralmiki, that didn't work for me03:16
penguincentralwebjames: go into xterm using alt>f203:16
penguincentraldoes the same stuff webjames03:16
webjamesmiki that worked thanks!03:17
webjamesthanks penguincentral miki03:17
penguincentralit worked for you webjames?03:17
webjamesyeah03:17
penguincentralthat's ok webjames03:17
penguincentralit didn't work for me03:17
penguincentralmoving on...03:17
webjamesstrange, maybe as i have already updated03:17
penguincentralwebjames: who knows...03:18
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penguincentralbye everybody03:22
fermatHas anybody else problems with skype since today's update?03:22
fermatCharacters are not displayed03:22
Hobbseefermat: dont file a bug on it, please03:23
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fermatHobbsee: -v, please..!03:25
Hobbseefermat: skype is not in ubuntu.03:25
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allenUhm does 7.10 comes with compiz as default?03:26
Hobbseeyes03:26
fermatyeah, but the error appeared after todays update - yesterday it worked fine. and the fonts in gnome-terminal stopped working at the same time when the fonts in skype got damaged03:26
Piciallen: Thats the plan03:26
allenah..03:27
Hobbseefermat: the gnome-terminal stuff got fixed.03:27
allencan i disable it?03:27
allenif ever03:27
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dystopianraywill kubuntu have compiz by default?03:27
Hobbseedystopianray: it wont.03:27
fermatHobbsee: what was the reason03:27
dystopianraygood03:27
Hobbseedystopianray: kde4 will have compositing03:27
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Hobbseefermat:   https://launchpad.net/bugs/14054003:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released] 03:27
allentthank you guys03:27
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webjamesallen: right click on your desktop click change desktop background then desktop effects03:28
webjamestoo late.. :(03:28
fermatHobbsee: Thank you! :-)03:28
tininHi, I need to reinstall ubuntu so I was thinking of using gutsy yet, what is it's state? Has it few bugs now?03:28
webjamesi've been using it for a while, nothing major03:29
tininand anyone using kubuntu? is what I need to know about03:30
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webjamesi use ubuntu sorry, give it a go on the live cd see if it works03:31
Jordan_Utinin, Stick with Feisty03:33
dystopianraydoes gutsy include ooxml support with openoffice?03:34
Hobbseetinin: it's not stable yet03:34
tininok, thanx03:34
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tininI need wireless support, I hope that it is better on 2.6.22 kernel. Right now my usb wireless goes very slow :(03:36
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boojah_are there any info regarding the broken gnome-terminal?03:48
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Spadsboojah_: bug#14054003:49
boojah_thanks03:49
Spadsboojah_: gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9603:49
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cheeseheadHello!04:04
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boojah_Spads: yea that fixed it04:05
cheeseheadI think that Gutsy just farked up my laptop when I tried to install it. I can't boot into Vista anymore.04:05
boojah_anyone know if kopete has support for V4L2? and how i make it use it?04:05
contrast83cheesehead: Is the partition still there?04:08
cheeseheadIt just says "Operating System Not Found."04:08
contrast83Hrmm... Sounds like *cough* user error *cough* :-D04:08
contrast83Are you sure you did the partitioning correctly when you installed it?04:09
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boojah_does anyone have problem with the outline of the "type password" window freeze on the screen after its closed?04:17
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CyD_do you know a depo for tasping and gutsy ?04:23
CyD_*taspring04:23
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CountXuh ohh, i fudged up gutsy and now i cant access my net04:29
CountXeverything that connects to the internet cant right now on my gutsy lappy04:29
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CountXanyone care to lend me a hand?04:30
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contrast83CountX: What kind of card (wireless, I'm assuming)?04:30
CountXnope, im using wired right now04:30
CountXi cant get wireless to work04:30
contrast83even wired isn't working on the laptop?04:30
CountXnope04:30
CountXsuddenly went out after a reboot04:31
CountXbcm43xx wireless card, can i get that up and running fat?04:31
CountXfast*04:31
contrast83sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter04:31
contrast83or did you already do that?04:31
__timhrm, awesome update: nautilus got removed and there's no panel after logging into gnome now04:32
CountXwell, i dont have internet04:32
contrast83er, whoops. sorry...04:32
contrast83CountX: one sec...04:32
CountX:D04:32
CountXcontrast83: im on a windows box right now, on a java irc client, :(04:33
contrast83oohhh ok. packages.ubuntu.com - look for that package i mentioned on there (make sure you look under gutsy)04:34
contrast83CountX: google around for "wl-apsta.o" - you'll have to download that file also04:34
CountXhow am i to get that to the lappy?04:34
contrast83CountX: do you have a cd burner?04:34
CountXyeah...but no cd's04:34
contrast83thumb drive?04:35
CountXits at work :(04:35
CountXpackages.ubuntu.com doesnt exist :O04:35
contrast83it exists in my browser. ;-)04:35
contrast83maybe windows blocked it. :-P04:36
sander_bah.. upgrading is a hell!04:36
sander_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/14071404:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140714 in adept "Upgrade Tool Crashed (kubuntu 7.04 -> 7.10)" [Undecided,New] 04:36
CountXwoa, i got a weird page telling me it didnt, and at the bottom it linked to the same page but it was an ubuntu page....04:36
sander_yeah that's me!04:36
contrast83sander_: that's why Gutsy is still beta.04:37
sander_well I don't think it is really gutsy related04:37
sander_I think it's wubi04:37
sander_or that adept package manager04:37
contrast83wubi? i've heard the term but i'm unfamiliar.04:37
CountXcontrast83: i cant find bcm43xx-fwcutter on that site04:38
contrast83isn't that for running ubuntu inside windows or something like that?04:38
sander_http://wubi-installer.org/04:38
sander_something04:38
sander_you install it in a file on a NTFS partition04:38
sander_and it uses the windows bootloader to start it04:38
sander_works quite nice actually04:38
contrast83CountX: if i were you, i'd worry about getting the wired connection running first, because most likely, your wireless won't work either until you take care of that.04:39
CountXcontrast83: can you help me with that?04:39
hdpcan anybody confirm that the gnome-terminal crashes oder starts up in a very minimized mode with invisible fonts?04:39
contrast83CountX: i can try. no promises though. :-)04:39
CountXcontrast83: any help is appreciated04:39
sander_[14:07]  <jaysonsantos> Hi people, after the last update of gusty today, i can't see (they is so small) the fonts of my gnome terminal, exists some config for that ?04:40
sander_[14:08]  <jussi01> jaysonsantos: run gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9604:40
hdpthanks04:40
sander_hdp: any help?04:40
contrast83CountX: is the laptop physically connected right now?04:40
CountXcontrast83: yes04:40
CountXcontrast83: and it recognizes when i unplug and plug it back in04:40
CountXcontrast83: just no access to the net...04:41
contrast83CountX: try running this command - sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart - then when that finishes - sudo NetworkManager04:41
CountXbrtb04:42
leperkhanzdistribution upgrade?  Running partial upgrade?04:42
leperkhanzhmmm04:42
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CountXits doing something04:43
contrast83CountX: K/Ubuntu?04:43
CountXcontrast83: gnome :)04:44
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CountXcontrast83: still nothing, now it takes no time to notice i have no net, before it kinda tried to load a page04:44
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contrast83I had the *exact* same problem you're having some time ago, and those two commands gave the same result they just gave you. I'm trying to remember what I did to fix it.04:46
CountXcontrast83: now it doesnt notice when i unplug the cable04:47
contrast83could you pastebin the output of that restart command i gave you?04:48
CountXcontrast83: i really appreciate ur help04:48
contrast83no problem04:48
CountXnot without internet...04:48
CountXunless you want me to take a picture :)04:48
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hdpsander_, thanks a lot, gconftool fixed the problem.04:48
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rockywhat are people's favourite diagram editor these days for drawing network layouts and such?04:49
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contrast83you didn't recently uninstall anything did you, CountX?04:49
CountXcontrast83: not that i can remember04:49
CountXcontrast83: ive been up all night so my memory isnt all that great04:50
contrast83there *was* a recent kernel upgrade in the repos. that's always a possible culprit.04:51
CountXcontrast83: im pretty sure X crashed or something when i tried to run a game, or something like that04:51
CountXcontrast83: X has been crashing like all night04:51
contrast83desktop effects turned on?04:51
CountXcontrast83: ya04:51
CountXcontrast83: i was impressing my dad with my linsta theme and the compiz-fusion animations04:52
contrast83you should always turn that off before running games, just fyi04:52
CountXcontrast83: is there a fast way to tun it off?04:52
CountXcontrast83: then back on with all the same settings04:52
contrast83well, i've got a folder with shortcuts to all my games in it, and i just have a 3-line script that turns it off, opens my file manager in that folder, then turns it back on when i close the file manager04:53
CountXcontrast83: ya im not that good with linux, yet04:53
CountXyet04:53
CountXso...what am i just effed in the A on this one?04:54
CountXdude i dont even know how to add more workspaces....04:54
contrast83run this command - dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-headers04:55
contrast83how many packages did that list?04:55
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CountX404:55
CountXwell 5 with the linux-headers-generic04:56
contrast832 that include "2.6.22-11" and 2 that include a different number?04:56
CountXya04:56
CountX2.6.22-1004:56
contrast83did you already try just rebooting to fix this?04:57
CountXyes...04:57
CountXsadly04:57
CountXthats my first response04:57
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AnRkeyhas anyone else used ebox yet?04:57
CountXi dont know what that is04:57
CountXso, no04:57
AnRkeyi can't get the openvpn, firewall and network modules installed04:57
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contrast83ok, reboot again, hit escape when GRUB starts its 3-second countdown, and select 2.6.22-10.04:58
fuococan i use update-manager to upgrade to gutsy at this point ?04:58
CountXcontrast83: OK04:58
contrast83ohhh04:58
contrast83hang on04:58
CountXhanging04:59
contrast83CountX: did you use the restricted manager to install the driver for your wireless card?04:59
CountXno04:59
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contrast83it just worked out of the box?04:59
CountXi never installed my wireless card04:59
CountXi was lazy04:59
contrast83oh, so the wireless never worked?04:59
CountXplus theres no free wireless here and i dont have a wireless router04:59
CountXya04:59
CountXi just never tried to make it work04:59
contrast83ok04:59
CountXcan i boot now?05:00
contrast83yeah05:00
CountX:P05:00
CountXgrub screen is lonely05:00
hdpi would like to report a bug to launchpad, but i'm not sure which package to choose. entering 'unknown' doesn't work. how should i proceed?05:00
CountXother?05:00
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CountXwait, dont listin to me05:00
hdpyep, that doesn't work05:01
contrast83hdp: what's the bug?05:01
CountXwell, i really have no idea dont look at me05:01
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hdpcontrast83, a full hangup when switching from vt1 back to x server05:01
CountXcontrast83: still nothing bro05:02
CountXcontrast83: so i guess that means its not the kernel :(05:02
hdpthis could be a kernel issue but i'm not quite sure05:02
contrast83hdp: probably your graphics card driver05:02
eagles0513875can can anyone help me with my amarok and xine issue05:03
contrast83CountX: right...05:03
CountXcontrast83: well, am i effed now?05:03
contrast83CountX: Not to be a dick or anything, but if you're really new to Linux, you really shouldn't be using a test release anyway. There's just as much that you can learn from a stable release, and with a lot fewer headaches.05:04
CountXcontrast83: ya i know05:05
contrast83CountX: I'm sure there's some way to fix this, but I'm still a bit of a novice myself.05:05
CountXcontrast83: ya i kinda wish me and linux could get along05:06
CountXcontrast83: i hate myself for resorting back to windoze05:06
contrast83CountX: It takes some time. And lots of patience. :-)05:06
fuococan i use update-manager to upgrade to gutsy at this point ?05:06
contrast83fuoco: Not sure, sorry.05:06
fuocoso the only way is to reinstall ?05:07
contrast83CountX: My advice would be to just install Feisty, and *manually* do the partitions so you can set up seperate partitions for / and /home, that way if you break something and have to reinstall, all your personal files will still be in tact afterwards05:07
contrast83along with all your preferences, etc.05:08
CountXcontrast83: i kinda wish i knew that before i formated over my feisty partition05:09
eagles0513875anyone know much about xine and amarok05:09
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contrast83Yeah. Some distros set up the partitions like that by default. I can't see why Ubuntu doesn't. :-\05:10
contrast83CountX: How big's the hard drive on your laptop?05:11
CountX2x100gb05:12
eagles0513875Hobbsee: y am i banned in the other channel i didnt even do anything05:12
CountX1 windows 1 linux05:12
eagles0513875winblows05:12
CountXand dude, i think something is effed with my laptop, cause like, i cant get on the internet with my windows partition05:13
Hobbseeeagles0513875: disruption from last time.  have you reformed?05:13
eagles0513875Hobbsee: yes i have05:13
contrast83CountX: Have you tried resetting the router?05:13
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CountXthe pc im chatting on right now is connected to the same router05:13
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i havent been on my linux machine in a while hobbs05:13
contrast83I know, but still. Strange as it sounds, I've seen that fix the problem even when the router's working fine for a different computer.05:14
Hobbseeand...?05:14
CountXwell, ive done it already but fine , w.e05:14
CountXbrb05:14
eagles0513875Hobbsee: what did i disrupt the last time05:14
contrast83CountX: wait, so you already tried that?05:15
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Hobbsee....05:15
Hobbseeeagles0513875: so you clearly havent learnt anything.05:15
eagles0513875Hobbsee: in that channel that warrented a ban05:15
eagles0513875Hobbsee: i dont even remember what i did05:15
eagles0513875Hobbsee: what i have learnet is to keep my mouth shut in there05:15
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eagles0513875Hobbsee: i dont even talk05:15
Hobbseethen the +q should not matter to you...05:16
Hobbseereally.05:16
eagles0513875+q ??05:16
Hobbseea quiet05:17
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Guest525contrast83: on....freaking weird man05:17
Guest525its countx05:17
eagles0513875Hobbsee: ok:( u still mad at me and if i ever become an motu will i ever be able to get in the channel05:18
contrast83ok...?05:18
contrast83did that work?05:18
Guest525contrast83: i unplugged bot router and modem, switched around the plugs and now my windows lappy can get on05:18
contrast83sounds like you need a new router05:19
Guest525contrast83: but but...its a D-link05:19
contrast83lol05:19
contrast83and if i were you, i'd make it a wireless one. put that laptop to some real use. ;-)05:19
Guest525contrast83: well, i celebrated early05:20
contrast83?05:20
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Guest525contrast83: the freaking ubuntu partition wont get on the net05:20
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Guest525contrast83: on, nvm, it magically works now...05:21
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Guest525contrast83: im going to go cry in the corner for a while05:22
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eagles0513875Hobbsee: will i ever get removed removed from quiet05:22
contrast83lol05:23
eagles0513875!aptfix05:23
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:23
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Hobbseeeagles0513875: depends if you have anything useful to add, pretty much.05:23
HobbseePici: he hasnt done anything here *yet*05:23
Piciarg05:23
HobbseePici: as much as i'd like to have him gagged everywhere, you do need a reason :P05:23
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contrast83CountX: http://www.linuxappfinder.com/blog/preparing_for_system_failure_and_recovering_quickly - that explains in depth what I was saying about manually doing the partitions.05:24
PiciSorry for the spam guys/gals05:24
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Guest525hey imma log back in with my nick05:24
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RichWI would like to report that the latest gutsy updates have broken the nvidia drivers05:25
RichWopen office does not run05:25
RichWyou get the splash screen and then it dissppears05:26
RichWthe terminal for me has a tiny unreadable font05:26
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CountX_hmm05:26
CountX_somehow my nick is still up...05:26
RichWAny nvidia users here?05:26
RichWwith gutsy05:26
RichW?05:26
CountX_me05:27
contrast83me05:27
RichWawsome05:27
CountX_i use a 7600 Go05:27
RichWyou got latest updates?05:27
contrast83Yup05:27
RichWhas openoffice broken with latest updates?05:27
CountX_if by that you mean, the nvidia-glx-new, then yes05:27
contrast837600 GS here. No problems05:27
Hobbsee!ghost | CountX_05:27
RichWyeah i use -new05:27
ubotuCountX_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>05:27
RichWHobbsee: Wow cool.. i never knew that05:28
contrast83i'm using nvidia-glx-new and it's working fine.05:28
CountX_hmm05:28
RichWi got another friend05:28
RichWand we both got the openoffice broken problem05:28
RichWi can take screenshots of some of the weird effects happeneing05:28
HobbseeRichW: :)05:29
contrast83RichW: Sure you're not just out of VRAM?05:29
CountX_i just ran openoffice word proccessor with np05:29
RichWdamn now right click --> change desktop background wont open at all05:29
RichWi read the change log before updating05:29
RichWit said something about blacklisting a driver05:30
RichWand some matrox changes05:30
RichWVRAM? 1280x1024 and nvidia 860005:30
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RichWtheres 256MB on that card05:30
RichWit was fine before this update05:31
eagles0513875Hobbsee: sry bout that a screwey pkg update screwed up the latest kernel for me05:31
eagles0513875!aptfix05:31
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:31
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Le-Chuck_ITAHi there05:33
Le-Chuck_ITAthings are broken05:33
Le-Chuck_ITAgnome-terminal in particular :05:33
Le-Chuck_ITA:)05:33
Hobbseenews at 11.05:33
Hobbseethat's already been fixed.05:33
Le-Chuck_ITAgreat!05:33
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RichWyeah05:33
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/bugs/14054005:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140540 in libgnome "[Gutsy update]  Gnome application font sizes too small to read" [High,Fix released] 05:33
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Le-Chuck_ITAthings are fixed :)05:34
Le-Chuck_ITAI love you all05:34
CountXits a me, im back05:34
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RichWha thanks05:34
RichWfixed my terminal!05:34
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CountXcan you /whois yourself/05:35
Hobbseeyes05:35
CountXthen why doesnt it work05:35
CountXHobbsee: is there like some special command?05:35
CountXother than /whois05:35
HobbseeCountX: no05:35
CountXhmm05:35
CountX /whois CountX doesnt report anything05:36
HobbseeCountX: alt+1.  it goes to your server window.05:36
CountXAH05:36
CountXwell, not with irssi, but yes i do need to be in the server window05:36
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CountXcontrast83: thanks for all your help earlier man05:41
CountXcontrast83: even though it was all becuase of my crappy router and not ubuntu05:42
CountXlike i tried to make it out as linux's fault05:42
CountXi dont know what i would do without this irc channel05:43
=== contrast83 hugs apt-get dselect-upgrade
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CountXwhen can i get virtualbox, that works on gutsy?05:53
CountXthe one i have right now complains about not having kernel drivers05:53
CountXlols05:54
CountXhe was using kde....05:55
CountXanyone? help me05:55
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hydrogenyou need to build the kernel drivers05:56
hydrogeniirc05:56
CountXhuh?05:56
contrast83I was trying to do that just the other day.05:57
CountXwell, im like super new to linux, so how do i do that05:57
CountXhey contrast8305:57
CountXwb05:57
contrast83Hey, thanks05:57
contrast83I built the kernel drivers, and there was still something missing in /etc/init.d05:57
CountXpoo, i really wish i knew wtf u were tlaking about05:58
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contrast83I can try to explain, but I'm not sure I understand it myself.05:58
contrast83I *think* in order for VirtualBox to run a guest OS, it needs a certain module or driver loaded05:59
CountXcontrast83: thats how VMware is on windoze06:00
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contrast83Building the kernel drivers should take care of that, so either it just doesn't at the moment (in Gutsy, at least), or I was doing something wrong.06:01
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rockyi think i might have asked this before (but i stepped away) ... does anyone have a favourite diagram editor on gutsy ? (particularly for describing network layouts)06:02
CountXcontrast83: i think its just gutsy, cause i got it working fine in feisty06:02
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CountXrocky: yes you have asked before, and i have no idea what you are talking about06:02
contrast83lol06:02
contrast83Ditto06:02
rockyyou don't know what i'm asking?06:03
CountXrocky: sorry, i just dont06:03
rockyum06:03
rockyhave you ever used Dia ?06:03
CountX:)06:03
rockyor Visio06:03
rockythose are diagram editors06:03
PiciI think Dia is in gutsy.06:03
CountXive used mind manager06:03
poorenglish_anyone, I dont have windows borders with compiz-fusion, why?06:03
CountXpoorenglish_: are you on a laptop?06:04
poorenglish_no06:04
CountXpoorenglish_: then i cant help you06:04
contrast83Yeah, dia's in Gutsy. I just searched Synaptic for "diagram editor" out of curiosity.06:04
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Zvezdichkohello06:04
Zvezdichkoafter the lastest upgrade OpenOffice just doesn't load06:04
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Reabypoorenglish_: have you tried to assing new theme from appearence panel06:05
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ReabyZvezdichko: try to start openoffice from terminal and see what is says06:06
contrast83poorenglish_: what brand video card?06:06
poorenglish_Reaby: ups, now works06:06
poorenglish_but, is a bug?06:06
poorenglish_thanks ;)06:07
Reabynot sure, try if you can recreate it06:07
Reabyie, log off and again on06:07
Reabyor restart X06:07
poorenglish_ok06:07
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ZvezdichkoReaby, it says: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit06:09
Zvezdichko(process) : 746806:09
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ReabyZvezdichko: did update go smoothly to end ?06:10
Zvezdichkoyes06:10
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Reabyweird06:10
Zvezdichkothere were no problems06:10
Zvezdichkoweird, and I suppose this should be corrected till beta :)06:11
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contrast83Ermm... Wow.06:12
PiciIs there a bug logged for it?  If not you should add one.06:12
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contrast83dpkg is segfaulting when I try to dist-upgrade. :-\06:12
jbroomecontrast83: that's exactly why i just popped in here. :)06:12
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killefizcontrast83: same her06:12
killefize06:12
ZvezdichkoPici, it just crashes to desktop for no reason06:13
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phillip_theres another phillip, no way06:13
Zvezdichkothat's it06:13
jbroomebummer, it's broken.  glad it's not just me. :)06:13
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Pici!bug06:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:13
=== contrast83 thanks god his dselect-upgrade finished before this breakage occurred. :-D
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ZvezdichkoOK, I'll do this but can I dig out more information about this?06:14
jbroomei'm not exactly getting a segfault i'm getting "failed to fetch $PACKAGE.deb hash sum mismatch06:15
ReabyZvezdichko: try: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=5836906:16
Reabythere is one possible solution06:16
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branstromAnyone have a tip about a good source of Pidgin 2.2.0 .debs for gutsy?06:17
branstromUm, a nice, oft-updated repo with Pidgin in it, in other words06:18
mtfuchsI got a problem installing gutsy from tribe 5. are there any known errors? I get the error, that the CD-ROM is not an Ubuntu CD. but the checksum is right.06:18
mtfuchsI get this error with alternate 64bit and 32bit.06:18
mtfuchsthis is the alternate cd.06:18
stdintry the daily iso06:18
contrast83mtfuchs: Is it a CD-RW?06:18
mtfuchsno, it is a normal CD-R06:19
contrast83Daily iso?06:19
Zvezdichkoreported this bug06:19
mtfuchsno, it is tribe 5.06:19
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mtfuchsif I need to download a daily iso now I will go nuts.06:20
mtfuchsI need about 4 hours for every iso.06:20
PecisDarbshmmmm, last updates introduced nasty apt-get bugs, is that true?06:20
ZvezdichkoI didn't get any bugs06:20
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Zvezdichkoduring last update06:20
Zvezdichkobut I indeed encountered bugs during one of the latest updates06:21
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mtfuchsdoes anyone have an idea. this happened with tribe 5 i386 alternate and amd64 alternate.06:22
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mtfuchswhere do I get those daily isos from?06:23
jbroome!daily > mtfuchs06:23
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lagaguys. is anyone here running kde on gutsy? the control centre crashes here if i double click on "printers"06:24
lagacan anyone confirm?06:24
mtfuchsthey are to big for burning on a cdrom.06:25
lagasingle click works fine, btw.06:25
geserPecisDarbs: yes, the last dpkg broke apt06:25
mtfuchsman. this really sucks. will get a feisty alternate cd now. if this doesn't work I will go search another distro or another computer.06:26
Zvezdichkohere ... Konsole crashes when ran on Gutsy, but not in KDE, it happens in GNOME06:26
PecisDarbsmtfuchs: what is too big?06:26
mtfuchsthe daily build is 732 MB06:26
PecisDarbsgeser: how to get out from this situation? :) any suggestions?06:26
stdinmtfuchs: most CDs hold 800MBs06:27
mtfuchsmine do 70006:27
hydrogenmost do 70006:27
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Hobbsee] : The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Dont use development version of Ubuntu on production systems | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | For support for Dapper,Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Gnome terminal already fixed, see https://launchpad.net/bugs/140540 | Don't upgrade apt to -13
geserPecisDarbs: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9152616/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb06:27
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geserPecisDarbs: sudo dpkg -i dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb06:28
geserassuming you are using i38606:28
Zvezdichkoheeeeeeeeeey06:28
ZvezdichkoGnome terminal06:28
PecisDarbsgeser: thanks06:28
mtfuchswell, doesn't matter I will get a feisty install cd. maybe those work.06:28
hydrogenHobbsee: is that apt to -13 or dpkg to -13 ?06:28
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Hobbseehydrogen: noted, thanks.06:28
geser:)06:28
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Hobbsee] : The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Dont use development version of Ubuntu on production systems | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | For support for Dapper,Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Gnome terminal already fixed, see https://launchpad.net/bugs/140540 | Dont upgrade dpkg to -13
hydrogenooph06:29
hydrogenI got that message too late :)06:29
Hobbseedowngrade dpkg to -12 then06:29
hydrogenyea06:29
hydrogenjust did06:29
Zvezdichkoyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees06:30
ZvezdichkoGNOME Terminal06:30
Zvezdichkoworking again!06:30
Zvezdichkoas for dpkg, how to downgrade?06:31
hydrogenlook up to what geser said06:31
ReabyZvezdichko: on synaptic select force version06:32
Zvezdichkok, thanks06:32
stdinif you haven't cleaned your cache just do "dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb"06:32
Reabyor something like that, i don't use english version..06:32
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sausagemanapt-get is segfaulting on any package management command... 0xb7e8fb06 in _strstrip () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.6-6.so.4.506:37
Hobbseesausageman: please consult the /topic on entry, before speaking.06:37
Hobbseeyou'll make yourself not look like a goose that way06:37
sausagemando you mean the dpkg thing?06:38
Hobbseeyes06:38
Zvezdichkowrong, I haven't upgraded yet...06:38
Zvezdichkonow when I hit apt-get upgrade it gives me the new version of dpkg06:38
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sausagemani read the topic; i just didn't link them together as the problem seemed to be in apt.. hmm..06:38
MTecknologyis there anything that will convert binary to decimal for me?06:38
Hobbseesausageman: apt uses dpkg06:38
sausagemanyeah i just didn't link them together ;)06:38
Hobbsee:)06:39
ZvezdichkoI won't upgrade till... till the next two weeks, anyway06:39
Zvezdichko:)06:39
lagaprobably a bit off-topic.. but, can i upgrade from i386 to x86_64 painlessly?06:40
jbroomei'm going to guess no06:40
geserlaga: no, the only way is reinstall06:40
lagak.06:40
jbroomestdin: your line works fine on english version, thanks06:41
stdinyw06:42
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CountXwhat do you guys use for virtualization06:44
SecherHey guys.. i just updated my gutsy today, my terminal is all screwed up.. anyone able to help?06:44
Reabyrun upgrade again06:44
jbroomeSecher: /topic06:44
Secherit just says "see ' "06:45
ShackJackCountX: Virtual box is pretty sweet - using the Feisty repos wit no problems..06:45
ReabySecher: gconftool --type float --set /desktop/gnome/font_rendering/dpi 9606:45
CountXShackJack: i managed to install it form i think the gutsy repo, and it wont start the guest, complains of  missing kernel drivers06:46
CountXShackJack: can you elaborate on how you got it to work/06:46
Secherreaby : how? i dont have any command line...06:46
Reabypaste to commandline06:46
Reabyor press alt-f206:46
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ShackJackCountX: I don't think there is a gutsy repo... I just added feisty repo from their site (added key as well) and voila...  You have to build the kernel thingie when you are installing, but it walks you througgh..06:47
CountXShackJack: i use the default repo with gutsy i mean06:47
CountXShackJack: how would i know what to do, it will tell me?06:48
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ConstyXIVcan you make the deskbar hang from the panel again?06:48
ShackJackCountX: It's not in there - you have to use Feisty Repo... Just add as per usual like any other repo...06:48
MTecknology!countdown06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about countdown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:49
ikmai haven't been able to get X to run without failsafe for a few weeks [gnome, kde, any]   what should i try to fix this?06:49
MTecknologyOctober 18th is when I can dload the final version?06:51
MTecknologyor do I need to wait a while for that?06:51
ikma!X06:52
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:52
ShackJackMTecknology: More or less, sometimes they run "late"06:52
MTecknologyalrighty :)06:52
ConstyXIVMTecknology: if you just keep updating, you will be at the final version when it's out06:52
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ConstyXIVis the version of dpkg in the repos now safe?06:53
Pici!final06:53
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.06:53
ShackJackCan someone refresh my memory... how to I downgrade a package in debian if I already have the busted dpkg 13 installed?06:54
nemikso does the acrobat 8 firefox plugin work for you guys? i can open the app itself but the plugin refuses to work06:54
MTecknologyConstyXIV, there's still issues with my wireless... It always seems to be found just fine when i install from the live cd, but not the alternate cd06:54
MTecknologybut that's 7.04 also06:54
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ShackJackikma: Window MGR don't ahev alot to do with X...I would suggest sticking with VESA driver and consulting your card/monitor docs for accepted resolutions and refreshes and go from there...06:54
jbroomeShackJack: 12:32 < stdin> if you haven't cleaned your cache just do "dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb"06:54
tapasstrigi:/statu sayd idling, but top say sstrigidaemon takes 100% cpu06:55
ShackJackjbroome: Ahhh.. that's it... been a while - thanks ;)06:55
jbroomeShackJack: thank stdin.  I'm just the messenger. :)06:55
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geserShackJack: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9152616/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb06:57
geserShackJack: sudo dpkg -i dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb06:57
ConstyXIVis it safe to upgrade dpkg right now from the repo?06:57
ShackJackgeser: Oh thanks - I just checked cache and I do have it ;)  I didn't see dpkg as part of recent updated (the broken one)... Must've just missed it :)06:57
ReabyConstyXIV: are you blind or stupid.06:58
jbroomeboth?06:58
Reaby:/06:58
mtfuchsI got the problem: Ubuntu tried to load the setup from the DVD I had in my master cd-rom drive and not from the CD I had in the slave from which it booted.,06:58
stdinReaby: no deed for personal attacks..06:58
stdin*need06:58
Reabysorry.06:58
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ReabyConstyXIV: it's not safe yet06:59
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contrast83I'm off. Peace out, y'all.07:00
ShackJackConstyXIV: If you have busted #13 you can downgrade like I did if it's in your cache or see above to grab the deb ;)07:00
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=== ShackJack is downloading other updates happily...
ShackJackBy the by - on my desktop setup my gnome desktop freezes when I click the Quit button from the menu... does anyone gnome what program this is actually calling (pulls up the "shutdown" menu) so I might launch from terminal to see what's going on?07:01
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slanningthanks, the bug with gnome-terminal is fixed - is apt-get segfaulting also a known problem?07:04
sandycan anyone help me i am using gusty and my firefox is not working only my home page(google suggest) is getting open thats it no other pages are working help me plzzz07:04
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geserslanning: read the /topic07:05
slanningI guess that would be the "don't upgrade dpkg" warning07:05
slanninggeser: sorry, sorry07:05
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sandycan anyone help me07:06
CountXamnesty?07:07
CountXhow do you spell that one07:07
jbroomethat looks right07:07
sandysome one help in firefox problem07:08
CountXcan a .vdi virtualbox harddrive get corrupted?07:09
CountXlike when i try and import it into a new vbox guest it gives me a weird error and tells me to contact the product vendor07:09
HobbseeCountX: i think so.  i've seen some get botched.07:10
CountXpoo07:10
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unggnuhi all07:10
unggnuAnyone have problems with touchpad scrolling with current Gutsy?07:10
CountXno but i want to get a wacom07:10
unggnuSince yesterday or something like that.07:10
CountXso it better not be horrible07:11
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slanningunggnu: I find I can no longer tap my touchpad to click07:11
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unggnuslanning, Touchpad clicking is the first thing I always disable :)07:12
unggnuslanning, Does scrolling work for you?07:12
ccooke... I'm getting a 403 trying to update dpkg from archive.ubuntu.com07:13
slanningwell, no - nothing aside from moving the cursor (and the buttons work)07:13
nemikslanning: just go and enable it. it got disabled from last upgrade07:13
nemikin preferences -> mouse i think07:13
geserccooke: intended07:13
gesersee topic07:13
slanningnemik: thanks07:13
slanningthis channel is nice :)07:13
ccookeahhh07:13
ccookeI missed it07:13
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CountXhow long should it take to copy a file from one partition to another using cp -f, the file is like 2.2gb07:14
unggnuslanning, Is there a bug report?07:14
CountXcause its been a while, and theres nothing happening07:15
slanningI don't know - I just took nemik's word on it, and it worked07:15
unggnunemik, cool07:15
unggnuworks :)07:15
nemikCountX: depends on how other partition is mounted. but if regular IDE i'd say 3 minutes max on a 1GHz box or more07:15
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unggnuno need for tap disabling :)07:15
nemikunggnu: np07:15
nemikyou too slanning07:15
CountXoh wait, its working, slowly07:16
mluser-workAnyone else have an Asus M68000N laptop that wont suspend with Gutsy?07:16
CountXlike, uber slow07:16
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CountXmluser-work: i have an hp-dv900z and it works07:16
CountXdv9000z*07:16
unggnunemik, But as always graphical mouse settings have no influence on mouse cursor speed.07:16
unggnuDoes anyone have the same problem?07:16
mluser-workIt works for me if I boot into the 2.6.20 feisty kernel too.. but not with the 2.6.22 Gutsy kernel07:17
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unggnuBtw. the new compiz changes are great. I didn't like the minimize animation at least for standard use.07:17
sandy can anyone help me i am using gusty and my firefox is not working only my home page(google suggest) is getting open thats it no other pages are working help me plzzz07:17
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nemikunggnu: hmm yea that's interesting. same case here. i like my default so never tried changing it07:18
RichardHuntThe update manager is complaining that it can't download totem-xine (403 Forbidden). Do I just need to wait for this to be resolved?07:18
nemikRichardHunt: yes. or change repos07:18
unggnunemik, Apls Touchpads are very slow.07:18
unggnu*Alps07:18
unggnuwithout different settings07:18
nemikah that sucks. the ibm whatever one on my thinkpad is cool07:18
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Secherhey does anyone know how to fix the terminal problem?07:19
ShackJacksandy: If one page is opening, it would stand to reason that others will open... can you ping other sites, etc...?07:19
SlimGWill there be an installoption in Gutsy to setup encrypted partitions?07:19
magnetronShackJack: she is using gutsy07:19
mtfuchshow much swap would a 2 GB RAM system need?07:19
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magnetronSecher: WHAT terminal problem07:20
nemikmtfuchs: 2GB should be fine or 2.507:20
sandy<ShackJack> ya07:20
ShackJackmagnetron: Eh?07:20
magnetronShackJack: sandy is using gutsy. support for gutsy is in #ubuntu+1 ONLY07:20
Secherthe one mentioned in the topic.. i got a terminal problem today, so i assumed it was a wide problem07:20
ShackJackmagnetron: Ermmm... that's what channel we're in last I checked...07:21
CountXhow do you delete with the terminal?07:21
CountX-rm?07:21
Secherrm07:21
magnetronShackJack: wooops07:21
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CountXcool07:21
CountXthnx bro07:21
ShackJackSecher: You can downgrade your dpkg to 12 if it's still in your cache...07:21
nemikrm -rf for a directory07:21
jussi01hmmm, dolphin is giving me this: Unable to save bookmarks in /home/jussi/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.07:21
CountXnaw its just a file07:21
sandy<ShackJack> i can ping other sites07:21
CountXthanks tho07:21
ShackJackSecher: dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb07:21
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jussi01my hdd isnt full...07:21
LjLwhile being careful what exactly you type after it07:21
RevEnhi07:22
ShackJacksandy: And you can get to this one page and not others - sure your browser isn't in offline mode?07:22
Secherhmm.. the problem is my terminal doesnt work.. and i cant paste anything into it either07:22
sandy<ShackJack> How to check that07:23
ohsoferretyI think I might have deleted the Applications menu, or GTK is messing with it. Is there any way to fix that?07:23
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slanningSecher: do you use emacs by chance? I used `shell` in emacs07:23
ShackJackSecher: In GUI? Go to full command line more CTRL ALT F1 (or F2 whatever)07:23
CountXhow do you change the number of workstations in gutsy07:23
ShackJacksandy: Under File menu...07:23
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slanningor ctrl-alt-f1, that would've worked, too :)07:23
Secheraah.. :D sorry.. still very new with linux..07:23
sandy<ShackJack> Its not in offline mode07:24
slanningnormally it'll say "you're browser is in offline mode" if it's in offline mode, though07:24
ShackJackslanning: DOH - THat's the one ;)  I have sort of "finger" memory when it comes to that....07:24
CountXlike, i cant find the way to change it from 207:24
ShackJacksandy: What the site address you can get to?07:24
sandy<ShackJack> google suggest07:24
CountXanyone know how off hand, cause im at a lose, with feisty i just changed it by clicking the dock app07:24
ShackJackURL?07:24
CountX!google07:24
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux07:24
sandy<ShackJack> but i cant open google.com07:24
ShackJacksandy:  ^^07:24
sandyhttp://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en <ShackJack>07:25
CountX!google | sandy07:25
ubotusandy: please see above07:25
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CountXim bored, sry07:25
Sechershackjack - its not there anymore :S07:25
Secheri guess07:26
sandy<ShackJack> other then that i cant open any other sites07:26
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anhdepyeuAnyone else getting 403 forbidden on apt-get?  Someone turn off the archives because of a bad package or something?07:26
slanningsandy: what if you do  firefox http://www.ubuntu.com/    from the command-line ?07:26
ShackJacksandy: Sorry need to know URL  If you can get to one URL you can get to other's - simple as that ;) Unless your ISPs DNS is messed up or it's a firewall issue...07:26
ShackJackSecher: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9152616/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb  and then sudo dpkg -i dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb07:27
sandy<ShackJack> I think the home page is save in my pc07:27
CountXmy ISP throttles bittorrent :(07:27
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CountXdont get time warner07:27
CountXthey<poo07:27
ShackJacksandy: Can you get updates, etc...07:28
slanningsandy?07:28
sandy<ShackJack> because may the page is saved in the pc thats y i can open it may be07:28
unggnuDoes anyone have problems with new Intel driver and brightness?07:28
sandy<ShackJack> ya07:29
CountXunggnu: intel integrated gfx card?07:29
ShackJacksandy: Hmmm... that's weird... can you go to http://www.natewelch.com ?07:29
unggnuCountX, yes07:29
CountXunggnu: dats poo, laptop?07:29
unggnuCountX, yes :)07:29
CountXunggnu: damn, that sucks, i dont know what to say bro07:30
lagageser: i will now try to upgrade to amd64 without reinstalling. just because i can. <(07:30
unggnuCountX, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/13995407:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139954 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[Gutsy]  intel driver resets laptop brightness to highest mode after start, logout or video play" [Unknown,Confirmed] 07:30
CountXunggnu: other then im no help, im a desktop guy, and this is my first lappy07:30
sandy<ShackJack> no07:30
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kalchashello! it seems I have messed up my gdm on my other pc (gutsy amd64). how can I find out what's wrong and how can I fix it? when I try to login I get this message: "the greeter application has crashed: attempting to use a different one" I never get a new gdm login though07:31
geseranhdepyeu: exactly, see topic07:31
slanningsandy: I assume you've closed and reopened firefox since this started happening?07:31
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CountXi love Orca07:32
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anhdepyeugeser: right on, thanks07:32
slanningturned off and on networking07:32
sandy<slanning> i didnt get you07:32
effie_jayxthe New Software Modem feature in Restricted Drivers Manager is for win modems?07:32
slanningdid you exit firefox? to start over07:32
Sechershackjack - it says 404 not found to that07:32
sandy<slanning> samething07:32
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sandy<slanning> only my home page no other sites07:33
sandy<slanning> i have even reinstalled the firefox07:33
sandy<slanning> my apt-get update is not working07:34
unggnuDoes anyone have a Sony laptop?07:35
CountXwee i got vbox to work07:35
CountXunggnu:  sony makes lappys?07:35
unggnuCountX, It seems so.07:35
jbroomethey do, and i don't have one. :)07:35
CountXunggnu: well if you says o07:35
CountXunggnu: i have an hp, as mentioned before, and for 1k i recomend it07:36
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ConstyXIVand the internet stops exploding07:37
|Lunar_Lamp|Hmm - heh, I see that the dpkg seg faults is a known issue :-/07:38
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|Lunar_Lamp|Downgrade the only fix atm?07:38
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MarlunAnyone else having trouble with apt? I've just reinstalled tribe 5 and upgrading doesn't work. Seems to be some problem with apt.07:39
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slanningMarlun: Topic07:39
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slanningwhere you should read 'dpkg' to be apt :)07:39
anhdepyeuMarlun: problem with the dpkg in the archives07:40
Marlunah :)07:40
slanningShackJack said this --> dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb07:40
Marlunso after a install of tribe 5 I should not upgrade dpkg? Don't know how to do that when doing apt-get upgrade, but I guess i can remove the upgrade in synaptic and upgrade the rest there?07:41
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Secherhmmm after the upgrade today, my touchpad mouse stopped working as it did before by default.. now i cant "click" by tapping the pad, and i cant scroll by moving my finger down the right side of the pad. Cant find any fixes on google..07:44
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Secherbtw on a dell xps m1330 if it makes any difference07:46
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ReL1K_anyone do the recent  update and have issues with apt-get/dpkg?07:47
ShackJackMarlun: You can downgrade the dpkg archive and all will be well for other upgrades ;) Just down d/l #13 as stated in /topic07:47
ShackJackReL1K_: See Topic and above...07:47
ReL1K_hehe thanks07:47
ReL1K_so reinstall dpkg to a previous version?07:48
ReL1K_and anyone got dual head monitors working on a t61? the wiki one didn't work07:48
ConstyXIVSecher: go to Sys->Prefs->Mouse->Touchpad07:48
ConstyXIVSecher: you'll have the options there07:48
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ShackJackReL1K_: If you have it in your cache: dpkg --force-downgrade -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb07:49
SecherconstyXIV - nothing there.. only two tabs in "mouse" : "buttons" and "motion"07:49
ConstyXIVSecher: what time did you update today?  I updated around 9:00 EDT and it's there07:50
Secherhmm.. it was around 10:00 GMT.. not sure what time that is overthere..07:51
ReL1K_ShackJack, any idea where I can download it from if I don't have its cached?07:51
jbroomehttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/9152616/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb07:52
jbroome/lastlog wget FTW07:52
ReL1K_thanks07:52
jbroomenp07:52
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gesera new dpkg (1.14.5ubuntu14) should appear on the archive soon07:53
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unggnuI have a strang issue in Gutsy. Everytime I shutdown my system under Gutsy and start it again after then I couldn't use the keyboard in grub and everything else. If I power hard down and up again everything works again.07:57
unggnuThis doesn't happen after Feisty restart.07:57
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dballanthi, does anybody know how to rebuild the linux-ubuntu-modules package? it is new with gusty and i am trying to get a custom kernel working with it07:58
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ReL1K_and anyone got dual head monitors working on a t61? the wiki one didn't work07:59
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MarlunI've downgraded now if I do an apt-get upgrade, will it upgrade dpkg too then? =)08:01
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ShackJackMarlun: Yeah - use the GUI thingie or do the command line thing to block the upgrade08:08
geserMarlun: it will try but fail unless you have the broken dpkg in /var/cache/apt08:08
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joebob777as7hey i'm running gutsy and updated last night a brand new install and now when i log in nothing get's displayed aside from the wallpaper... can someone give me a hand?08:09
geseror wait some more, a new dpkg was already build and needs now some time to appear on the archive08:09
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Le-Chuck_IT1Hi all, did you ever see "Process /usr/bin/trackerd exited with status 0"08:10
Le-Chuck_IT1from tracker search?08:11
Le-Chuck_IT1Tracker search is returning no results, neither is deskbar08:11
Le-Chuck_IT1but status 0 should be ok08:11
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Le-Chuck_IT1this is surely a bug in tracker but don't know how to gather more information08:11
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ShackJackLe-Chuck_IT1: I've seen it... there was a recent update to tracker today - dunno if still happening... You can of course start tracker from terminal to see more output...08:12
Le-Chuck_IT1tracker-search comihda08:12
Le-Chuck_IT1tracker-search: internal tracker error: Process /usr/bin/trackerd exited with status 008:13
Le-Chuck_IT1trackerd is running08:13
Le-Chuck_IT1as usual08:13
Le-Chuck_IT1hmmm08:13
Le-Chuck_IT1killing it and restarting worked :(08:13
Le-Chuck_IT1however I solved my problem for now08:13
Le-Chuck_IT1how do I create a dbg package?08:14
Henrik1Where does the displaymanager for setting up xorg configs save its presets ? I have a problem where it generates the wrong xorg config file, so I thought it might be possible to overwrite its preset with my own xorg.conf. "template"08:17
Secheranyone using an m1330 and are experiencing problems with sound?08:17
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jack_mcdowellDont upgrade dpkg to -13 ... nice... should have come here earlier!08:18
onechard-14 already out here08:18
joebob777as7hey i'm running gutsy and updated last night a brand new install and now when i log in nothing get's displayed aside from the wallpaper... can someone give me a hand?08:19
jack_mcdowellok... I'm downloading everything now and hopefully it will work08:19
Le-Chuck_IT1joebob777as7: kill the X server with ctrl+alt+backspace08:19
Le-Chuck_IT1then go into a tty08:19
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Le-Chuck_IT1ps aux08:19
Le-Chuck_IT1kill all your processes08:20
Le-Chuck_IT1make sure they die expecially gconfd08:20
ReL1K_anyone run into the problem where you copy and paste something it spits of like japanese output?08:20
Le-Chuck_IT1if there is no gconfd then it's not the same problem I've been experiencing recently08:20
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joebob777as7Le-Chuck_IT1, ok killed all of my user processes... now what?08:22
Le-Chuck_IT1are you the only one using the pc now?08:23
joebob777as7yes08:23
Le-Chuck_IT1well, what I did was to remove (as an user, not as root) all of the contents of /tmp and /var/tmp08:23
Le-Chuck_IT1and then try again to log in to gnome08:24
Le-Chuck_IT1so I did as user "rm /var/tmp/* /var/tmp/.* /tmp/.* /tmp/* -rf"08:24
Le-Chuck_IT1joebob777as7: you're chatting from another machine right?08:24
joebob777as7yes Le-Chuck_IT108:25
Le-Chuck_IT1:)08:25
ShackJackYay - dpkg is fixed!08:25
Le-Chuck_IT1you never know08:25
joebob777as7still no luck same deal08:25
Le-Chuck_IT1less .xsession-errors08:25
Le-Chuck_IT1?08:26
ShackJackLe-Chuck_IT1: Bah - I'll be brave....08:26
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Le-Chuck_IT1going to use the tty for the rest of your life?08:26
tohtorijephello.. does anybody else have the problem with gnome-terminal fonts..08:26
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Reaby^^ topic.08:26
joebob777as7tohtorijep, look at channel topic08:27
tohtorijepok08:27
tohtorijepthanks bye08:27
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joebob777as7Le-Chuck_IT1, how do i see what errors my xsession is having? btw i can right click and go into the desktop manager just fine there are just no menus or icons...08:28
Le-Chuck_IT1are you using the default session in gdm?08:28
Le-Chuck_IT1you can see errors in the tty using cat or less08:28
Le-Chuck_IT1less .xsession-errors08:28
joebob777as7yes as far as i know08:28
Le-Chuck_IT1and you can try to run programs on X from the tty using "export DISPLAY=:0.0"08:29
Le-Chuck_IT1which will allow you to run e.g. nautilus from the tty and see it under X08:29
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Le-Chuck_IT1so you can at least see if it starts and some error on the tty08:29
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joebob777as7window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/joe/.metacity/sessions/default0.ms: Failed to open file '/home/joe/.netacity/sessions/default0.ms': No such file or directory08:31
joebob777as7then at the bottom /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found08:32
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ShackJackIt says ".netacity" (with an "N")?08:32
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joebob777as7lol no i had to type it ShackJack08:32
KenSentMeHmm, my laptop touchpad doesn't click or scroll anymore, i can only move the mouse around. Anyone else with the same problem?08:33
ShackJackAh, was gonna say  -there's your problem right there :)08:33
joebob777as7lol08:33
Le-Chuck_IT1KenSentMe:08:33
joebob777as7i whish it was that easy...08:33
Le-Chuck_IT1there is a new preference in System08:33
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Le-Chuck_IT1for the touchpad :)08:33
KenSentMeLe-Chuck_IT1, hey, cool08:34
Le-Chuck_IT1go to "system->preferences->mouse"08:34
KenSentMeIt wasnt there 3 hours ago08:34
Le-Chuck_IT1joebob777as7: the esd part does not matter08:34
Le-Chuck_IT1I suppose this will get fixed some day08:34
KenSentMeLe-Chuck_IT1, thanks08:34
Le-Chuck_IT1np :)08:35
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joebob777as7ok so basically reinstall and run all updates again? Le-Chuck_IT1 ...08:35
Le-Chuck_IT1now I would try to "grep default0.ms .*" in my home08:35
Le-Chuck_IT1or maybe that's the default session08:35
Le-Chuck_IT1which metacity should have and it doesn't find08:35
Le-Chuck_IT1this I don't know08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1joebob777as7:08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1I run grep08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1I ran grep08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1whatever08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1and I have that error too :(08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1so it's not the problem08:36
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Le-Chuck_IT1you should try to understand what script is launched by gdm for your session08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1then try all the commands one at a time08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1but08:36
Le-Chuck_IT1did you try running nautilus from the console?08:37
Le-Chuck_IT1got to go for dinner08:37
joebob777as7ok thx Le-Chuck_IT108:37
Le-Chuck_IT1did you try launching nautilus?08:37
joebob777as7no i will though i just rebooted. should i try running nautilus before i try to log in for the first time after reboot?08:38
Le-Chuck_IT1I think that's the same08:38
Le-Chuck_IT1try to create a new user08:38
Le-Chuck_IT1this will tell you if the problem is in your configuration08:38
Le-Chuck_IT1to do that from the tty use08:38
joebob777as7i did that just using adduser... is there something else i have to do?08:39
Le-Chuck_IT1ok08:39
Le-Chuck_IT1it doesn't work from the new user, too, I suppose08:39
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joebob777as7because when i tried to log in it told me that there was no home dir...08:39
Le-Chuck_IT1ah08:39
Le-Chuck_IT1why?08:39
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Le-Chuck_IT1adduser should create the home directory08:40
Le-Chuck_IT1did you run out of disk space on / or /home?08:40
ShackJack!enter | Le-Chuck_IT1 (just sayin')08:40
ubotuLe-Chuck_IT1 (just sayin'): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:40
joebob777as7lol no. on a 500gb hdd fresh install08:40
Vegarhmm08:40
Vegarwhen was dpkg -13 put in apt?08:40
Le-Chuck_IT1ShackJack: sorry08:41
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ShackJackVegar: Today - it's gone now - busted...08:41
joebob777as7ShackJack, when is that font console thing going to be toast?08:41
VegarShackJack: exactly when today?08:41
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VegarI might have upgraded my laptop08:42
PiciShackJack: should be fixed now, update and apt-cache policy it08:42
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ShackJackDUnno *exactly* eariler this morn (EST)08:42
Vegaroh well, I'm sure I'll notice if I got -1308:42
jack_mcdowellhas anyone got this? I can't complete my upgrades n_2.20.0-1ubuntu2_all.deb) ...08:42
jack_mcdowellSegmentation fault (core dumped)08:42
ShackJackPici: Not be - Vegar :)08:42
ShackJack*me08:42
Le-Chuck_IT1joebob777as7: try to discover why adduser didn't create an home directory, it's a script. Or just mv .[^.] * DOTFILES08:42
ShackJackjack_mcdowell: See /topic08:42
jack_mcdowellSegmentation fault (core dumped)08:42
Le-Chuck_IT1(where DOTFILES is a new dir). Got to go bye08:42
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joebob777as7ok thx Le-Chuck_IT108:43
joebob777as7ttyl08:43
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jack_mcdowellthe dpkg? I asked and someone said we were on -14 now...08:44
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contrast83Is anyone else having trouble changing their KDM theme? I already tried editing and removing /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings, as well as manually editing kdmrc, all to no avail. Any ideas?08:45
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ShackJackjack_mcdowell: What version do you have?08:46
MarlunShackJack: Had to go away from the computer, now when I tried to upgrade I get the message "The package apt needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."08:46
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ShackJackMarlun: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9152616/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb08:47
mtfuchswhy the hell does kubuntu gutsy tribe 5 use lilo?08:47
contrast83mtfuchs: o.O It's not using lilo here.08:48
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winbondhow do i see where foo is installed ?  how do i create links to file using dolphin??08:48
ShackJackcontrast83: He said kubuntu...08:48
Marlunthanks, brb :)08:48
contrast83ShackJack: I realize that. ;-)08:48
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jack_mcdowellof dpkg? 1.14.5ubuntu12 I'm not sure what's been upgraded because it hasn't finished completely yet... but it seems like there are more packages now (it's still getting the list) so I'll just be patient08:48
mtfuchscontrast83: yes it does. and there was even no opportunity to use grub. this is the alternate install cd.08:48
ShackJackI have no lilo either... I thought Kubuntu let you pick or something...08:49
contrast83mtfuchs: That's what I installed from as well. Weird.08:49
mtfuchsI mean I have no problem with lilo. just thought nobody uses it anymore.08:49
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Pici] : The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run Gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Don't use development version of Ubuntu on production systems | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | dpkg issue fixed, safe to upgrade to -14: If you are broken see http://launchpad.net/bugs/14
contrast83mtfuchs: Have you had any luck changing the KDM theme?08:49
Picihmm, that cut off a bit08:50
mtfuchscontrast83: the install just finished 2 minutes ago ;)08:50
contrast83Oh ok. Heh08:50
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Pici] : The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run Gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Don't use development version of Ubuntu on production systems | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | dpkg issue fixed, upgrade to -14: If you are broken see http://launchpad.net/bugs/140739
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pwnguinthere was a dpkg issue?08:51
mtfuchsnow I will watch DVB out of the box and then I will try to install grub :)08:51
ShackJackPici: Very descriptive! Now let's see if anyone reads it :P08:51
Picipwnguin: apt/dpkg issue.08:51
PiciShackJack: They wont :(08:51
mtfuchsah, not to forget to encrypt /home08:51
pwnguinglad i missed that one08:51
PiciBut now you can just point them to the topic instead of explaining it.08:52
ShackJackPici: Yep... very nice...08:52
mtfuchsoh, wow. the media:/ bug got finally fixed.08:53
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Skiessiwhat's the "dpkg issue"?08:57
jbroomedpkg was FUBAR earlier08:58
ShackJackSkiessi: See link in topic...08:58
PiciHeh.08:59
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ShackJackOr should I say "see link in the lucid, descriptive, well-written topic"...09:00
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Pici:)09:00
mtfuchsarg. dvb does not work o o t b.09:00
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ReL1K_anyone run into the problem where you copy and paste something it spits of like japanese output?09:02
mtfuchsno v4l-dvb module in generic kernel?09:02
CyD_last update doesnt work09:02
CyD_block on libgnome2-common09:02
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ShackJackWhew! Lots of updates today...09:05
Skiessiyeah09:05
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winbondwhats suposed to be in the moz_libdir and MRE_HOME directories , which the firefox startup script refers to ?09:08
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Zvezdichkoso... according to the topic it's safe to run apt-get upgrade right?09:11
jack_mcdowellit should be, if not follow the bug report in the link09:12
ReL1K_anyone got dual monitors working in xorg with an intel video card?09:13
gnomefreakguys stay away from updates for now09:15
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gnomefreakubuntu14 will fix it but not all mirrors have been updated09:15
jack_mcdowellahhhh... that explains it... I had to manually install 14 because it was still showing 1309:16
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winbondhow do i check where foo installed to ?09:17
gnomefreakjack_mcdowell: me too09:18
gnomefreakbut should be in all repos soon as it is critcal bug09:18
jack_mcdowellwinbond: does whereis foo work? it should tell you where most packages are09:18
gnomefreakvery critical bug09:18
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Piciwinbond: foo is a package or file?09:19
winbondjack_mcdowell, that works thanks you,09:19
jack_mcdowellgnomefreak: I just wish I would have checked this channel before, I should have realized that switching to the Development version means exactly that09:19
jack_mcdowellnp09:20
winbondPici, package? i think09:20
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IntuitiveNipplewhat's broken now?09:20
Piciwinbond: dpkg -L packagename shows every file that a particular package installed.09:20
PiciIntuitiveNipple: dpkg/apt was broken, see the topic09:20
ReL1K_how do you do the 3d cube in compiz? what buttons initiate it? stupid question there but can't figure i tout09:21
winbondPici, nice, i can use that too , thanks09:21
IntuitiveNipplePici: oh, yes, I was backtracing that earlier09:21
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IntuitiveNippleThought something else had broken... spent a good part of last night on the font_rendering dpi bug too :009:22
KenSentMeI get an error in Firefox when trying to open non-existing urls. I run Ubuntu in Dutch language. How do i get the error in englis?09:23
KenSentMe*english09:23
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xtknighti am aware of the alternate cd, but by any method is it possible to mount a RAID volume and install using ubiquity-installer?  would modprobing mdadm be enough for /dev/md0 to show up *somewhere*?09:28
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strabeswhat is the deal with synaptics touchpads after yesterday's upgrade?09:31
strabesI fixed the gnome-terminal and appearance window problem, but my touchpad's settings like scrolling and tapping still don't apply09:32
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IntuitiveNippleWhich particular issues? Enabling tapping for clicks in the Mouse Properties?09:35
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CyD_at the moment are the updates broken ?09:38
ConstyXIVcan you get GDM to let you do user-<tab>-password again?09:39
mluser-workIs there a way I can force Gutsy to use the 2.6.20 feisty kernel instead of the 2.6.22 kernel?09:40
IntuitiveNippleCyD_: Is it this that is affecting you? http://launchpad.net/bugs/14073909:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140739 in dpkg "Apt segfaults on gutsy" [High,Fix released] 09:40
nanonymemluser-work, certainly. add it to boot yourself and edit bootloader files accordingly09:41
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CyD_IntuitiveNipple, yes, i segfault on libgnome2-common09:41
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nanonymemluser-work, it might break things though09:42
IntuitiveNippleCyD_: The fix is there09:42
jack_mcdowellis anyone running gutsy on an hp dv notebook?09:42
CyD_im looking09:42
mluser-worknanonyme: I can do that.. but then I run into the problem where the restricted drivers offered by Gutsy wont work with the older kernel09:42
nanonymeyeah, exactly...09:42
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nanonymecan't you just install feisty?09:42
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nanonymebackport the software you need09:43
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mluser-worknanonyme: sure I can, just loved keeping up with the ubuntu developers and all the new stuff showing up, my problem is that suspend/hibernate wont work on my laptop with the 2.6.22 kernel :(09:43
nanonymeheh...09:44
nanonymesucks :/09:44
mluser-worksigh :/09:44
nanonymemluser-work, which laptop, btw?09:44
mluser-workAsus M6800N09:44
nanonymei'm having problem with that with my ibook09:44
nanonymeproblems even09:44
mluser-workthats my only problem with Gutsy at the moment.. but I live on being able to suspend my machine09:45
IntuitiveNipplewhich bug have you posted that to?09:45
jack_mcdowellit doesn't work on my hp dv6000 either... but nothing works well on it :)09:45
nanonymemluser-work, heh, isn't restricted drivers just ordinary kernel module + firmware?09:46
nanonymeat least usually09:46
CyD_thanks IntuitiveNipple , it worked :)09:47
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mluser-worknanonyme: madwifi and fglrx drivers are compiled for 2.6.22 kernel on Gutsy, which wont work when I revert back to the 2.6.20 feisty kernel which allows my laptop to suspend/resume09:47
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mluser-worknanonyme: and I have to have wifi09:48
nanonymehmm...09:48
nanonymewifi has always been a problem with linux09:48
CyD_use ndiswrapper09:48
CyD_?09:48
hyljenah09:48
hyljewifi has worked for me very well09:48
nanonymeespecially for me09:48
hyljejust get the right hardware09:48
IntuitiveNippleThat's because the ABIs are different - you would need to build the restricted-modules from gutsy against the older kernel, which would most likely break things because of all the surrounding ABI changes09:48
mluser-workand me too..09:48
nanonymei need a fully open specs wifi card09:48
nanonymeif i want full compatibility09:49
ConstyXIVi've got the broadcom 4306 working smoothly with the OSS drivers09:49
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Centaur5Since Ebox won't make it onto Gutsy would it be a disaster to put the mirrors listed on their site and install it anyway?09:49
Secheris it possible to change the SWAP partition i made when i installed ubuntu? Apperently its not big enough to hibernate the system..09:49
nanonymeConstyXIV, my broadcom doesn't work that well with them09:49
jack_mcdowellspeaking of wifi, is booting with noapic nolapic the reason my card no longer appears in my lspci or is there some other bizarre reason?09:49
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CyD_IntuitiveNipple, do the incons in the menu and the gnome terminal working again after the upadte and reboot ?09:50
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mluser-workwell.. I'm still giving the developers time before Gutsy release, if not.. then I have no problems going back to feisty, just hate not being able to keep up with the new releases :D09:50
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ConstyXIVnanonyme: do a "lspci | grep Broadcom" and tell us which chipset it is09:51
IntuitiveNippleCyD_: If you make sure gnome-icon-theme is (re)installed, if it broke09:51
nanonymeBCM431809:52
ConstyXIVnanonyme: yeah, that's what i though09:52
ConstyXIVt09:52
nanonymeit's been having problems?09:52
CyD_IntuitiveNipple, nice all come back after the reboot09:52
CyD_:)09:52
ConstyXIVthe 18s dont work with the OSS driver yet09:52
nanonymeahh09:52
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nanonymeConstyXIV, i already got it to work once09:53
nanonymewasn't able to replicate the thing though09:53
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nanonymeso i suspect it's just very unstable09:53
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sebastiani am trying to upgrade to gutsy and it comes to the last package ... it seems to fail the MD5sum check and then it starts again and again and ... can i force it?09:53
CountXanyone here know how to help me with avidemux09:53
sebastiani mean the last package is latex09:53
nanonymetext mode interface worked, graphical never09:53
CountXit wont open an OGG video file09:53
sebastiani can install that later when i need it09:53
mon^rchbefore I crash X, can anyone tell me if I can run opengl apps + compiz yet?09:53
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IntuitiveNipplemon^rch: What video hardware?09:55
eagles0513875i have a question i just got a laptop hard drive and enclosure i try to mount into it to transfer stuff its usb but for some reason says hal refuses uid100009:55
mon^rchnvidia gs760009:55
eagles0513875its in ntfs btw i know bout ntfs-3g went into fstab but no option to make it ntfs 3g usable09:56
mon^rchI suppose I could just start a game, but I dont want to kill my session right now09:56
CountXwhats the easiest way to convert an ogg file?09:57
CountXogg video files09:57
CountXanyone?09:58
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sebastianCountX: http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/short-tip-convert-ogg-screencasts-to-avi/09:59
IntuitiveNipplemon^rch: There's an ongoing bug with GLX and nvidia, but there is a fix published with the bug report09:59
jack_mcdowellwell mon^rch urbanterror4 just crashed my X09:59
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michael__ok so,  for  soem reason, KNetworkManager doesn't open up at every startup, so when i do open it, my wireless card isn't there, even though my ipw3945 shows in the proc mnager, usually after a few reboots knetworkmanager shows up and lets me use wireless, but it hasnt been and ive been wanting to solvethis., any ideas?10:00
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IntuitiveNipplemon^rch: bug #13032510:01
michael__this hasbeen happening for a while, so i tried upgrading the gutsy and it now i cant even get wireless up10:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 130325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx]  3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13032510:01
sebastiandoes anybody have any idea what to do with the update_manager to make it ignore a package when upgrading to gutsy?10:01
sebastianmine keeps coming up with a MD5sum error ... it's the last (1440th) package10:01
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nanonymeConstyXIV, should i expect support during gutsy?10:05
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No1VikingI have an update called gcalctool that does not work. Anyone got suggestions how to force it to install och how to disable just that update among all other packages?10:06
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jetsaredimwhere are the easiest instructions on upgrading to gusty from feisty?10:07
eagles0513875what does it mean when it says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid100010:08
sebastianNo1Viking: i have the same question ... but i have a problem with latex10:08
eagles0513875sebastian: whats the problem with latex dude10:08
eagles0513875!aptfix10:08
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:08
darrendmon^rch: http://ppa.launchpad.net/keescook/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb is working well for me so far10:09
sebastianeagles0513875: well i am using the update-manager to upgrade to gutsy and latex is not satisfying the MD5sum check .... the last package ... no idea how to force the update-manager to proceed10:09
eagles0513875humm10:09
sebastianthe last out of 1440 ... i doubt the network connection just started failing10:09
jetsaredimis there an easy way to upgrade to gutsy on the command-line?10:09
sebastianjetsaredim: i wouldn't know ... but if there was i wouldn't want to redownload everything i've already downloaded10:10
eagles0513875jetsaredim: ya but involves editing the source lists10:10
eagles0513875!sourceomatic10:10
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:10
eagles0513875that is where u get the source codes10:10
eagles0513875so basically use that and choose the ones for gutsy10:10
jetsaredimsebastian: ?10:11
eagles0513875jetsaredim: u know what im talking bout10:11
jetsaredimeagles0513875: and that's a problem?10:11
sebastianjetsaredim: i wasn't sure whether you were making a suggestion or asking a question ;)10:11
eagles0513875jetsaredim: i have had some issues with it where u end up breaking things and ive ended up having to do a clean install10:11
jetsaredimeagles0513875: awesome10:11
eagles0513875for instance when they released feisty i did a dist upgrade it broke some stuff so ive basically ended up doing a clean install lol after trying it10:12
jetsaredimyea i had that happen too10:12
jetsaredimwith the same result10:12
jetsaredimthankfully I don't have much on my systems that can't be recovered10:12
eagles0513875lol10:12
eagles0513875im having a pain in ass issue wiht a usb external laptop drive10:13
eagles0513875i cant mount it10:13
jetsaredimi have to say that although there were a couple glitches to upgrading my laptop to gutsy went ok and i've been using it for a few weeks on  gutsy10:13
jetsaredimthat's no good10:13
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eagles0513875kool 32 bit im guessing jetsaredim10:14
eagles0513875anyone have any ideas to help me with my usb laptop enclosure as to why i cant mount it10:14
jetsaredimyea10:14
eagles0513875what should i try10:15
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eagles0513875i had to format it into ntfs cuz i had some stuff i wanted to get off a desktop10:15
No1VikingHow do I manually repair a package?10:15
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jetsaredimeagles0513875:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/11021010:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110210 in hal "Unable to mount external USB hard drives" [Undecided,New] 10:16
eagles0513875doh10:16
eagles0513875i dont have any space on my winblows machine lol10:16
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eagles0513875jetsaredim: that doesnt help cuz its for feisty10:18
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eagles0513875i cant even mount this thing10:18
jetsaredimeagles0513875: did you try the right-click work-around?10:19
eagles0513875hold up10:19
jetsaredimuncheck "mount as user"10:19
eagles0513875ok10:20
eagles0513875then manually mount10:20
jetsaredimerr ya10:20
jetsaredimnot saying its elegant10:20
eagles0513875it seems to work but now its complaining about not being clean10:20
jetsaredimnot sure10:21
jetsaredimi just did a search in google for that error string10:21
jetsaredimthat was like one of the first things to pop up10:21
jetsaredimthat's usually the first thing I do when I get an error10:21
jetsaredim9 out of 10 times you're not the first person to run into it - unless you're on a dev testing team or something10:22
Centaur5I typed iptables -A INPUT -s 10.18.251.15 -j DROP and iptables -A OUTPUT -d 10.18.251.15 -j DROP to stop a DHCP server from assigning addresses to my network. Should that suffice?10:22
eagles0513875jetsaredim: <3 lol it worked10:22
eagles0513875im goign to put ext310:22
eagles0513875on the drive how do i format it now10:22
jetsaredimeagles0513875: needs to be unmounted10:22
eagles0513875jetsaredim: ok then what lol10:22
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jetsaredimfind the device path10:23
jetsaredim/dev something10:23
eagles0513875its in /dev/sda110:23
jetsaredimand then sudo mke2fs -j /device/path10:23
eagles0513875givee m ea mmin here to copy stuff off of there10:23
philip_I AM BROKEN!10:23
eagles0513875jetsaredim: couldnt i also install qtparted10:23
jetsaredimphilip_: are you ... pantera?10:23
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jetsaredimeagles0513875: you could10:23
philip_jetsaredim, if I'm...pantera, would I receive some help? :P10:24
jetsaredimthat's the chorus from a song by the bank pantera10:24
jetsaredimsorry :)10:24
jetsaredimits best to just ask the question and someone who knows how to help will answer10:25
jetsaredims/nak/band10:25
jetsaredimerr  s/bank/band10:25
jetsaredimwow - i can't type10:25
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eagles0513875lol10:26
eagles0513875i cant when im laying down on my bed using wifi in winblows lol10:26
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jetsaredimeagles0513875: tmi10:26
philip_the topic did it for me10:26
eagles0513875jetsaredim: how is that tmi lol10:26
pwnguincute10:27
pwnguinif i run a terminal, the title bar falls under the top gnome panel10:28
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branstromPidgin says I need an SSL library, but I seem to already have libssl10:31
branstromIt needs it to connect to IM services. IRC is fine without it, but nothing else works.10:31
branstromPidgin 2.2.0, and I've just upgraded to gutsy.10:32
pwnguinbranstrom: take a look at the pidgin bugs list real quick10:32
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pwnguinbranstrom: also, is pidgin-encryption installed?10:34
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svu$ dpkg-query -L gnome-applets10:48
svuPackage `gnome-applets' does not contain any files (!)10:48
svuSweet10:49
svugnome 2.20 is overoptimized in gutsy10:49
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jetsaredim!aptfix10:55
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:55
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soundrayI get stuck after logging in: gnome doesn't come up. dbus doesn't seem to be running. Any hints on how to approach this problem?11:00
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mluser-worknanonyme: Just curious what video card do you have?11:00
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gordonjcpany idea as to when -rt kernels will have nvidia support?11:02
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RichardHun1I'm having trouble with the Update Manager. When I click Install updates, it starts but then almost immediately says that it's complete, leaving a have installed package and all other updates sitting. Anyone else getting this?11:06
Armor_AzraelA recent update (I don't know exactly which one) broke the window decorations (i.e. title bar, open/close/window dragging) when compiz is running11:06
RichardHun1The first package that did this was dselect11:06
Armor_AzraelWhat should I do to try to figure out what's going on?11:06
soundrayRichardHun1: try a 'sudo apt-get -f install' in a terminal11:08
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Armor_Azrael(It's not urgent or anything, I switched it back to full metacity, but I would like to determine what's wrong.)11:10
RichardHun1oh dear: Segmentation fault (core dumped)11:11
onewordhi, got a friend who's using ubuntu gutsy. He got repeating keys, E.g. if he presses "M" he will get "MMMMMMMM" anyone knows what's wrong?11:11
soundrayRichardHun1: oops. See if you can 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:11
RichardHun1It happens while trying to replace libgnomevfs2-common11:11
Armor_Azraeloneword: Check in Preferences->Universal Access->Keyboard Accessiblity11:12
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martingoneword: is it an intermittent problem?11:12
Armor_AzraelHe may have key repeat delay set too low and character repeat too high11:12
RichardHun1ok, I think dpkg is broken for me, it keeps on segmentation faulting11:13
IntuitiveNippleRichardHun1: http://launchpad.net/bugs/14073911:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140739 in dpkg "Apt segfaults on gutsy" [High,Fix released] 11:13
onewordmarting: i don't think so11:13
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RichardHun1Thanks, that's definitely what's going on11:15
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onewordHe solved it by disabling Enable Repeat Keys", thanks for your time!11:16
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Zvezdichkowow... who is Brian Murray?11:20
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gordonjcpright well11:22
gordonjcpback to Feisty then11:22
d4rkmonkeyI got this error both two times I tried to start up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282/11:24
d4rkmonkeyAnyone know how to fix this?11:24
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RichardHun1I downloaded dpkg 1.14.5ubuntu14 from launchpad and 'dpkg -i'ed it. Everything seems to be running smoothly again, thanks.11:29
nikolamDoes anyone knows anything about Open Office not working?11:29
RichardHun1Is it a bug that the Update Manager didn't recognise the Segmentation Fault as an error and reported that the update had completed successfully?11:29
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ReL1Kanyone know why the compiz menu might be missing from preferences?11:30
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RichardHun1nikolam: I had random crashes and no icons in openoffice a while ago. I did 'rm -rf .openoffice.org2' and they went away. There must have been a more clinical way to solve the problem though :)11:31
IntuitiveNippleHas anyone noticed the Gnome log-out icon (top-right) has changed to a running-man?11:31
RichardHun1IntuitiveNipple: I think that depends on your theme settings?11:32
IntuitiveNippledefault here... gnome-icon-theme updated yesterday so maybe that11:32
IntuitiveNippleI just noticed something was different, and took me a while to work out what it was!11:32
nikolamRichardHun1: It is interesting that Ooo works as ordinary user. But not if username is marked as able to run administrative tasks11:33
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nikolamI tryed removing .openoffice.org2 does not work11:34
pwnguinfi cant be the only one who's windows ignore gnome panel locations11:35
chrisbudden14hey, i've had a browse at the forums, but cant find what im looking for,  Just did an upgrade from feisty, and Hal is having a problem upgrading.  would anyone mind having a look here -> http://pastebin.ca/70248111:35
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CountXhow do you friggin change the workspaces to 411:36
CountXi cant find the place to change it11:36
RichardHun1CountX: using compiz?11:37
d4rkmonkeyCountX have you tried right clicking the workspace area on the panel and goign to preferences?11:37
pwnguinCountX: compiz uses "view ports" or something11:37
pwnguinim not sure why11:37
pwnguinbut the end result is that the workspace switcher currently doesnt play with compiz11:38
CountXno its like not there11:38
pwnguini used a universe tool to fix it11:38
CountXpoo, i gotta restart X11:38
pwnguinccsm11:38
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CountXok, im back11:39
CountXhow do i change the number of workspaces?11:40
pwnguin!info compizconfig-settings-manager11:40
ubotucompizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB11:40
d4rkmonkeymy "Gnome Settings Daemon" seems to have stopped starting, anyone know how I can fix this?11:40
CountXd4rkmonkey: that happened to me, just restart a few time11:40
CountXd4rkmonkey: actually i had to update like once or twice too11:40
d4rkmonkeyCountX k, I'll try that. I've already restarted 3 times...11:41
pwnguinCountX: that package has some tools to set stuff like you want correctly, at least11:41
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chrisbudden14https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/123966 hmm that worked.  strange that I was not in a chroot environment11:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 123966 in hal "[gutsy]  cannot install hal into a chroot" [Undecided,Confirmed] 11:41
d4rkmonkeywell, I just noticed I have 176 updates to install, lets try that... lol11:42
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CountXstill cant add more workspaces, stuck at 211:44
IntuitiveNippled4rkmonkey: STOP!!11:44
d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple ?11:45
IntuitiveNippled4rkmonkey: to avoid yourself having problems, update dpkg to the latest as per bug #140739 first :)11:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140739 in dpkg "Apt segfaults on gutsy" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14073911:45
d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple err, its doing all the updates available right now, how do I update only dpkg?11:45
IntuitiveNippleor, as it ought to be in the archives now, simply do "sudo apt-get install dpkg"11:46
ConstyXIVdoes anyone know if the suspend bug with the r200 and 'radeon' drivers will ever be fixed?11:46
d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple ok, I'm doing that now, why does it need to be updated first?11:46
IntuitiveNippled4rkmonkey: you need version 1.14.5ubuntu1411:46
d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple yeah, thats what it just did.11:47
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d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple safe to do the rest of the updates now?11:47
IntuitiveNippleBecause .13 has broken overnight... if the one update-manager is going to update to is .14 then you're safe11:47
IntuitiveNippleBut you don't want the hassle :)11:47
d4rkmonkeyI just updated to .14, good to install updates through update-manager now?11:47
IntuitiveNippleyes11:47
d4rkmonkeyIntuitiveNipple ok, thanks.11:48
ShanShanOut of curiosity, when will the gutsy commercial repository come online?11:48
CountXi get a 403 forbidden11:48
CountXit dead11:48
ShanShancommercial is dead?11:49
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CountXok i use compiz-fusion, where might i find the workspaces, to add more11:51
d4rkmonkeyCountX install compizconfig-settings-manager11:51
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d4rkmonkeyCountX theres settings in there.11:51
jeffferrarianyone using a synaptics touchpad having trouble with one of the last dailys?11:52
IntuitiveNippletrouble?11:52
CountXd4rkmonkey: i changed the virtual desktops, but in the cube its still showing 211:53
_siddjeffferrari: Yea, the tap-to-click and the scroll stopped working...11:53
jeffferrari_sidd:  yeah same11:53
d4rkmonkeyCountX err, you might have been in the wrong section or something? I'm sorry, I have no idea.11:53
IntuitiveNippleCountX: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings11:53
jeffferrari_sidd: well, actually all synaptic driver style effects - drag also etc etc11:54
IntuitiveNippleCountX: Then, General Options > Desktop Size > Horizontal Virtual Size = 411:54
jeffferrari_sidd: although I think the driver still works, I can tap to click my login field at gdm11:54
_siddjeffferrari: Apparently, it can be fixed by going to System -> Preferences -> Mouse Settings (I think)11:54
IntuitiveNippleCountX: The v-vsize and desktops should be 111:54
ShanShanNo one knows the status of commercial?11:55
CountXIntuitiveNipple: sweet11:55
jeffferrari_sidd: WOW lol that was definitely not there before - oh I love running development versions :)11:55
_siddjeffferrari: I'm not on my ubuntu machine right now to confirm... but that's the information I've gathered by lurking around here.11:55
IntuitiveNippleCountX: and using gconf-editor (for workspaces) navigate to /apps/metacity/general and ensure "workspaces" = 411:56
_siddjeffferrari: Ah... glad it worked for you... I'll try it out once I get home. :-)11:56
jeffferrari_sidd: 100% works for me - prob means they enabled shmmem11:56
IntuitiveNippleCountX: err, I mean  "num_workspaces" = 411:56
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gnomefreakShanShan: expect it after gutsy release11:56
ShanShanokay11:56
jeffferrari_sidd: yeah there's actually a 3rd tab there called "touchpad" now - used to have to grab the synaptic manager package11:57
jeffferrari(as in mouse not package manager)11:57
CountXhow can you click and drag windows while zoomed out, i saw it in a youtube11:57
IntuitiveNipplejeffferrari: Sensitivity doesn't work it seems11:57
jeffferrariIntuitiveNipple: no option for it afaics11:57
IntuitiveNipplejeffferrari:  on the Motion tab11:57
CountXIntuitiveNipple: nvm its the "expo" plugin11:58
IntuitiveNippleCountX: ahh, ok11:58
jeffferrariIntuitiveNipple: ahhh I believe that still only affects external mice - I can check when I get to work, I use a logitech usb11:58
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IntuitiveNipplejeffferrari: It doesn't work with external mouse either11:59
jeffferrariIntuitiveNipple: crap... is it already reported?12:00
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IntuitiveNipplejeffferrari: aye :)12:00
IntuitiveNippleBug #14058512:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140585 in gsynaptics "[gnome-mouse-properties]  Sensitivity doesn't affect touchpad" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14058512:01
jeffferrariIntuitiveNipple: out of curiosity, you don't know how they are making this work? the shmem option is not turned on in my xorg.conf12:01
jeffferrarita12:01
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SWATWhen I login to GNOME, the background color turns orange, I see the GNOME splash screen and as soon as my desktop loads, I see my settings (black background). How/Where can I change the 'orange' color or where is it defined? I tried editing my gdm.conf, I changed the color at the 'login' settings screen etc.. Could someone see if they also have the problem? (running gutsy atm)12:03
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jeffferrariBug #9212812:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 92128 in control-center "No option to disable tap-to-click" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9212812:08
IntuitiveNipplejeffferrari: I found this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-control-center/1:2.19.92-0ubuntu312:08
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jeffferrarilooks resolved by this12:08
jeffferrarilegend12:08
VegarI had tap-to-click this morning, after a synaptics driver update12:08
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jlouis_hah, *yet* another compiz upgrade ;)12:09
pwnguinthis one seems to break window placement12:09
pwnguinwhee12:09
scheater5Does anyone know anything about Archos brand media players?12:10
IntuitiveNippleSWAT: you're seeing the default background until your custom theme settings are loaded. The reason you see it is it is taking your PC some time to do the startup tasks before it gets to set the theme.12:11
IntuitiveNippleSWAT: I sometimes get the same effect when the WiFi takes a while to connect, after a cold start12:11
SWATIntuitiveNipple, right. But where/how can I change the default background? (yes, my laptop isn't superfast, 1.4Ghz Celeron)12:12
pwnguinSWAT: you can do some limited changes with gtweakui12:12
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IntuitiveNippleSWAT System > Preferences > Appearance12:12
pwnguinSWAT: but the basic problem is that copmiz loads really slowly, even on my core duo laptop12:12
pwnguinor there12:13
gnomefreakSWAT: that setting is in the wallpaper config in system>prefferneces>appearance12:13
IntuitiveNippleSWAT: I *think* changing a background might help12:13
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HardDiskhello12:13
jlouis_hep!12:14
SWATpwnguin, will try that12:14
HardDiskbeen having problems updating today? "Preparing to replace gnome-icon-theme 2.19.91-0ubuntu2 (using .../gnome-icon-theme_2.20.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ... Segmentation fault (core dumped)"12:14
SWATgnomefreak, my wallpapers always have black backgrounds, so that can't be it either12:14
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HardDiskdid dpkg --configure -a and autoremove/clean still getting the same issues12:14
IntuitiveNippleHardDisk: bug #14073912:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 140739 in dpkg "Apt segfaults on gutsy" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14073912:14
HardDiskah12:14
HardDiskso its a bug12:15
HardDiskgood :)12:15
pwnguinSWAT: what happens is it loads the default solid color, then eventually loads your background12:15
IntuitiveNippleHardDisk: try "sudo apt-get install dpkg"12:15
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gnomefreakSWAT: you will see the little coloar pallet that is the setting for color you see just before wallpapaer loads12:15
IntuitiveNippleHardDisk: you need the -14 version of dpkg12:15
SWATIntuitiveNipple, will also try that then, I currently have a half sized wallpaper with a black solid color fill12:15
pwnguininteresting12:15
HardDiskah ha...aight12:15
HardDiskcause I did install dpkg, I get  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct12:15
HardDiskso its -14 I need12:16
gnomefreakHardDisk: it should be in most mirrors by now12:16
HardDiskinteresting12:16
SWATpwnguin, so I'll have to take it like a man?12:16
IntuitiveNippleHardDisk: Yes12:16
gnomefreakHardDisk: ubuntu14 is the version needed12:16
IntuitiveNippleHardDisk: Once dpkg is updated the updates will go ok12:16
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pwnguinSWAT: im not sure. if your solid color is black, i would have thought it was not that.12:16
HardDiskrighty oh..im not that nooby I mean been using suse for a few years and ubuntu for about a year now...but did a google and really couldnt find anything so this was my last resort :D12:16
HardDiskthanx for the help12:17
d4rkmonkeyThis is dumb, I'm no longer getting errors saying that the Gnome Settings daemon can't start, but now I can't turn on desktop effects, and my keyboard shortcuts don't work...12:17
HardDiskall I use my pc for is watching movies and chatting12:17
SWATthat's why I'm checking if I'm the only one having this issue. I'm getting blinded when my dark GDM theme switches to bright orange, untill my dark wallpaper and black color arrive12:17
SWATpwnguin, ^^12:17
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IntuitiveNippleSWAP? SWAT!12:18
SWATs/AP/AT/12:18
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IntuitiveNippleI think mine are too dark - can't see to type :)12:18
asubediis xorg.conf needed to get synaptics touchpad to work correctly12:18
HardDiskpart upgrades should do the trick as the people said12:18
HardDiskthere was a new synaptic upgrade recently12:19
HardDiskshould be fine12:19
SWATasubedi, configure your 'mouse' (see the synaptic tab)12:19
pwnguinSWAT: you're right. i donno how to fix that =/12:19
IntuitiveNippleasubedi: I think yes; we had someone talking about that yesterday.12:19
pwnguinSWAT: and i highly recommend against gtweakUI, as i appear to have screwed something up12:19
SWATwell, should I leave it at this (and let it be) or file a bug? The people in #gnome thought this was a downstream issue12:20
asubediSWAT:  where do i configure mouse?12:20
asubediSWAT: got it? but there is no synaptic tab :/12:20
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IntuitiveNippleasubedi: System > Preferences > Mouse "Touchpad" tab (after all updates applied)12:21
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pwnguinIntuitiveNipple: does the new synaptics upload fix sensativity12:22
pwnguin?12:22
asubediSWAT: by last sentence should have been: got it. but there is no synaptic tab :/12:22
IntuitiveNipplepwnguin: Not that I've noticed12:22
HardDiskneither have I12:22
HardDiskit seems to be the same12:22
SWATasubedi, apply all patches (should work)12:23
HardDiskbut then I dont play quake on a synaptics touchpad :)12:23
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SWATa friend of mine played CSS with his touchpad once, very freaky12:23
pwnguini once tried to play quake with my tablet12:23
asubediSWAT: my gusty is up-to-date. what patches do i need to apply?12:23
pwnguinnot as simple as you'd imagine12:24
HardDiskeheh tablet12:24
HardDiskyea I can imagine12:24
pwnguinat first glance you think "aimbot"12:24
HardDiskhe can stab someone with that pen12:24
SWATpwnguin, so you were the one who fragged me?12:24
HardDisklike if he gets fragged a lot, he would get up and stab the guy in the eye then wipe the blood and continue playing with his tablet12:24
pwnguini doubt it12:24
pwnguinit doesnt work well12:24
pwnguintablet is absolute12:25
HardDiskvodka is absolute.12:25
pwnguinso rather than the wiimote metroid prime 3 style12:25
pwnguinyou move a little and the whole screen rotates12:25
HardDiskI would love to own a wii12:25
HardDiskjust recently got myself one of those nds lites, really fun devices12:25
HardDiskgot ftp server on it, dslinux and a few homebrews12:26
pwnguinneat12:26
pwnguinmy cart doesnt work with dslinux12:26
pwnguin=(12:26
HardDiskI got the m3 simply12:26
pwnguinds-xtreme12:26
HardDiskah12:26
HardDiskthats a nice cart12:26
pwnguinsort of12:26
HardDiskits got that new dxinfo right?12:26
pwnguinit was the first to market i liked12:26
HardDisksome new pc app made to send files over wifi12:27
HardDiskfor dx's12:27
pwnguininteresting12:27
HardDisksorry ubuntuers if we took the convo away from the usual talk :D12:27
pwnguini just bought it because it worked well with ubuntu12:27
pwnguinsort of12:27
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pwnguinand was slot 112:28
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HardDiskyea the m3 uses a microsd card and comes with a card reader12:28
SWATI guess it's ok for a short while12:28
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strabesYesterday's update broke gnome terminal fonts and the appearance window. I fixed those. Now my touchpad's scrolling and tapping no longer works.12:28
HardDiskyou see the AceKard R.P.G. ?12:28
pwnguinstrabes: if you go to mouse12:29
HardDiskits a nice promising card, but I'd wait till it gets better support for it12:29
pwnguinHardDisk: acekard didnt sound like they were very cross platform intelligent12:29
HardDisk1Gb on-board flash memory as well as a micro SDHC slot, and a mini-USB connector.12:29
strabespwnguin: oh, wow. haha nice. thanks a lot12:29
pwnguinstrabes: did it work?12:29
strabespwnguin: yeah, it works. but does this mean that I can no longer customize it to exactly how I like it using xorg.conf?12:30
pwnguinstrabes: how about sensetivity / accelleration?12:30
strabespwnguin: yeah, there's no options for that :(12:30
SWATpwnguin, a final word, file my issue as a bug or let it be? (with the default color)12:30
pwnguinfile a bug12:30
pwnguinmaybe logging out will fix trackerd12:33
strabespwnguin: are you still talking to me?12:33
HardDiskim liking virtualbox more than vmware day by day12:33
HardDiskvbox is running OS's faster than vmware at least for me12:34
pwnguinstrabes: no12:34
strabespwnguin: oh ok.12:34
HardDiskrecently upgraded vbox and it loaded windows xp much faster than vmware did.. I still need it for photoshop cs312:34
HardDiskand dont really want to wine ps712:35
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pwnguini hear gimp 2.6 will support higher bit depths12:36
HardDiskyea never was a gimp lover12:37
HardDiskdont like the seperate boxes on a desktop feel12:37
pwnguinits not like photoshop is different12:37
HardDiskI know12:37
HardDiskjuts got so used to photoshop I dont want to learn a new app :)12:37
pwnguini dont like it either, but when people say "gimp is unusable" i just have to laugh12:38
pwnguinbecause photoshop is junk12:38
tekhawkhas anyone got bind9 to work on gutsy we are using the saem config setting from fiesty where it worked and we cant seem to get the zones working12:38
HardDiskwell I dont say gimp is unusable its a good product I just dont like it personally.12:38
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pwnguinive yet to find a really good tool for creating art from scratch12:38
HardDiskagreed12:38
HardDiskget a mac ;D12:38
pwnguinhow people decided PS was a good idea for that i dont know12:39
HardDiskI like how pixelmator looks so far12:39
XeroHardDisk, do you know anything about Wii Linux?12:39
HardDiskXero I would if I owned a wii myself12:40
HardDiskthey dont have em in egypt12:40
pwnguinpixelmator looks like a transparent gimp12:40
Xero:(12:40
HardDiskor as far as I know I havent seen any12:40
HardDiskpwnguin: exactly.12:40
SWATpwnguin, arrrr, thanks for the input, arrrr (talklikeapirate.com)12:40
pwnguinSWAT: yarr12:41
HardDiskbut Xero its not hard to use a wiimote on linux12:41
HardDiskthere are apps for it12:41
XeroHardDisk, what equipment do I need to use the Wiimote on Linux?12:41
pwnguingutsy actually has libwiimote packaged12:41
XeroBluetooth reciever?12:41
pwnguin!info transfermii12:42
ubotutransfermii: transfer your mii from and to your wiimotes. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.5~rc2~cwiid-1 (gutsy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB12:42
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XeroWTF?12:42
pwnguinhow cool is that12:42
HardDisksee12:42
XeroWhat do I need to use the WiiMote?12:42
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XeroA bluetooth reciever, right?12:43
pwnguinyea12:43
HardDisk!google wiimote swik.net/wiimote+Ubuntu12:43
HardDiskI meant, swik.net/wiimote+Ubuntu12:43
pwnguinwiili has an okay list of compatible tools12:43
HardDiskbluetooths are so easy to find and get12:43
HardDiskand cheaper than a baskin robbins icecream12:43
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pwnguinfinding an appropriate linux compatible one is a bit harder12:44
HardDisknot really12:44
pwnguinhttp://www.wiili.org/index.php/Wiimote_driver12:44
d4rkmonkey:O12:44
HardDiskbluez works with any bluetooth reciever12:44
XeroSo what do I buy?12:45
HardDiskread the site12:45
ReL1Kanyone run into the new xorg video intel breaking compiz?12:45
XeroMy computer doesn't have bluetooth built in.12:46
HardDiskso get one12:46
HardDiskany old bluetooth device12:46
XeroHow much does it cost?12:46
HardDisk!google bluetooth reciever prices12:46
tekhawkanyone seen bind working on gutsy12:46
HardDiskhehe bot isnt working :)12:46
pwnguinReL1K: break?12:46
pwnguinReL1K: or disable?12:47
HardDiskjust make sure its bluetooth 2.0 and not 1.112:47
HardDisk2.0 = 100 meters distance12:47
HardDisk1.1 is like 10 meters12:47
XeroCrap.12:47
HardDiskI use my SE phone with HID to control my vlc player/totem via bluetooth12:47
XeroI'm too poor after just buying Wii to get a $200 reciever.12:47
HardDisk200$?12:47
pwnguin200 dollars?12:47
ReL1Klemme double check pwnguin pretty sure broke12:47
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HardDiskthey're like 5$12:48
HardDisk10$ max12:48
XeroOh. That one's GPS.12:48
XeroI don't pay attention to small details.12:48
tekhawklol12:48
pwnguinReL1K: i just read the changelog that said it disabled on certain intel chips12:48
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pwnguinReL1K: because its broken12:48
ReL1Kpwnguin: its been working fine12:48
ReL1Ksince today12:48
ShackJackHi all - my Gutsy desktop quasi-freezes when I click the quite button (either from main menu or panel)... System monitor ticks aways, but clicking on anything in non-repsonsive... Does anyone know what program the Quite calls so I can run in terminal to see what's going on?12:49
ReL1Krestarting x brb12:49
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HardDiskXero:  http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Bluetooth.html12:49
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ReL1Kpwnguin, its enabled12:50
HardDiskno need from that site, but to give you an example12:50
ReL1Knot workin12:50
ReL1Kall affects etc.12:50
HardDiskfind something cheap from walmart, assuming your in the US12:50
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fulioHi, can someone help me with my desktop effects when ever i try to enable it it says Failed to execute child process "gtk-window-decorator" (No such file or directory)12:51
pwnguinthe real challenge will be getting a second sensor bar12:51
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ReL1Kanyone where i should start? not working since update :P12:52
tekhawk@fulio are you using kde or gnome12:52
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HardDiskI wonder when will MS office be free?12:53
fuliotekhawk, gnome12:53
tekhawkReL1K, sorry dont use intel12:53
HardDiskI mean openoffice is awesome, google just released their powerpoint lookalike online yesterday..12:53
HardDiskand.."I.B.M. plans to mount its most ambitious challenge in years to Microsofts dominance of personal computer software, by offering free programs for word processing, spreadsheets and presentations. The company is announcing the desktop software, called I.B.M. Lotus Symphony, at an event today. The programs will be available as free download"..12:53
tekhawkfulio, okay there goes one theory12:53
ReL1Ktekhawk: nice solution12:54
HardDiskarm7?12:54
tekhawkReL1K, ment that as i dont use intel but yeah using nvidia makle it easier12:54
fuliotekhawk, whathappen is, lastnight there was a  update i updated and it took away all my themes but ym desktop effects was still working, and then there was a nother update i did it and now it messed up my effects and themes12:54
ReL1Kcant throw away my laptop :P12:55
ShackJackDoes anyone know what program is called when clicking the "Quit" button - I'd like to run from terminal to troubleshoot...12:55
ShackJack??12:55
HardDiskhmm gdm update...12:55
HardDiskshould I restart gdm :D12:55
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ReL1Ki just did it, didn't notice anything major12:56
XeroIt's not just gdm.12:57
XeroIt seems to be most of GNOME.12:57
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ShackJackAny ideas on why my desktop locks up when clicking QUIT button?12:58
ReL1Kanyone else here using a t61?12:58
ReL1Kblahhh12:59
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blizzowHow do I show the dependencies for a package I just downloaded through the tubes?01:03
_siddReL1K: I have a T61 (with Intel graphics).01:03
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ReL1K_sidd, hows compiz working01:07
ReL1Kand have you updated recently?01:07
ReL1Kand any luck with dual monitors :)01:07
_siddReL1K: Compiz has never worked for me...01:08
ReL1Khrm its always worked for me01:08
ReL1K_sidd: any luck with dual monitors?01:08
_siddReL1K: Okay... I take that back... compiz works when I start it in gnome...01:08
_siddReL1K: But once I logout and login it doesn't work.01:09
ReL1K_sidd, even with the most recent xorg intel updates?01:09
_siddReL1K: I updated last night... and that broke a lot of other stuff... didn't even get around to checking out compiz.01:09
ReL1Kah, try updating now :P see if copiz breaks01:10
ReL1Kcompiz01:10
_siddReL1K: I don't have my laptop right now to check out the most recent fixes...01:10
_siddReL1K: But I'll do that as soon as I get home tonight.01:10
ReL1Kthanks bud01:12
ReL1Kmuch appreciated01:12
ReL1Kyou ever had dual monitors working?01:12
_siddReL1K: I've tried out dual monitors once... it worked using xrandr01:13
_siddReL1K: I tried it only as a clone though.01:13
ReL1Kgot it01:14
_siddReL1K: You can also try the grandr applet for the command-line xrandr tool.01:14
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ReL1Knice, thanks dude01:15
_siddnp01:15
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