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| r3pek | hey! | 01:09 |
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| r3pek | any dev around? | 01:09 |
| IntuitiveNipple | >/dev/null :) | 01:11 |
| r3pek | :P | 01:12 |
| IntuitiveNipple | sorry... I couldn't resist :) | 01:13 |
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| S0me1 | hi | 01:15 |
| S0me1 | Can i ask? | 01:15 |
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| bdmurray | S0me1: ask what? | 01:20 |
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| S0me1 | why ubuntu developers fix winmodem issue on some laptops such as Dell XPS? | 01:39 |
| mjg59 | I don't understand the question? | 01:40 |
| mjg59 | Oh, you mean the hsfmodem drivers? | 01:40 |
| mjg59 | We don't have permission to distribute those. Dell do. | 01:41 |
| S0me1 | mjg59: Dell is sleeping :) | 01:44 |
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| mjg59 | I suspect that questions about those may have to go to Dell. I'm not sure what the support situation is in that respect. | 01:45 |
| S0me1 | but that's mean if you have permission you can do it !! | 01:45 |
| mjg59 | We don't have permission. | 01:45 |
| mjg59 | So we can't | 01:45 |
| S0me1 | :) OK | 01:45 |
| S0me1 | I am sure ubuntu kernel they can fix this issue , but there is a policy from DELL | 01:46 |
| mjg59 | No, we can't | 01:47 |
| mjg59 | The copyright holder (Linuxant, not Dell) have not granted us a license | 01:47 |
| S0me1 | mjg59: have ubuntu team try get granted license from Linuxant 4 ubuntu users? | 01:50 |
| S0me1 | why not try ask them ? | 01:50 |
| mjg59 | I did, a year ago | 01:50 |
| S0me1 | and what they said? | 01:51 |
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| mjg59 | I never got a reply | 01:53 |
| S0me1 | sorry for my question ... but this very important for me I tried find-out solution ... this is why i am asking you | 01:53 |
| mjg59 | But given that they charge money for it, I suspect we'd never be able to distribute it for free | 01:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | S0me1: I found the Linuxant drivers mess up the snd-hda-intel and report a shed-load of unhandled events, so I dropped them | 01:54 |
| S0me1 | I see ... I think they never want work with you in this issue ... | 01:55 |
| S0me1 | anyway guys ... nice chatting with you | 01:57 |
| S0me1 | nice to meet you :) | 01:57 |
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| lamont | kernel-wedge copy-modules 2.6.22-11 hppa64 2.6.22-11-hppa64 | 03:17 |
| lamont | missing module serpent | 03:17 |
| lamont | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9335614/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-hppa.linux-source-2.6.22_2.6.22-11.33_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:17 |
| lamont | OTOH, that was a build in the data center... | 03:17 |
| lamont | is there going to be another kernel upload this week, I wonder? | 03:18 |
| fabbione | isn't there a -12 already ? | 03:19 |
| fabbione | oh no | 03:19 |
| fabbione | never mind | 03:19 |
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| defendguin | ubuntu just pushed out an update to the synaptics package and now the side scroll on my touchpad doesn't function | 03:55 |
| defendguin | gutsy of course | 03:55 |
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| mjg59 | defendguin: system/preferences/mouse | 04:18 |
| defendguin | ha i didn't even think to look and see if it had been disabled | 04:21 |
| defendguin | sorry mat | 04:21 |
| defendguin | wow and tap to click wasnt working either i certainly hope that isn't supposed to be the default behavior after the update | 04:23 |
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| john | anyone there | 08:51 |
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| Nafallo | what did I do when I got that irq x: nobody cared again? | 12:53 |
| zul | use irqpoll | 12:56 |
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| Nafallo | thanks zul | 12:59 |
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| BenC | pkl_, amitk, rtg, kylem: getting ready to do another kernel upload. Any last minute patches you guys know of that need to be in? | 01:48 |
| BenC | lamont: did you check on the hppa ftbfs? I noticed it, but didn't look into it | 01:49 |
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| kylem | BenC, nyetski on my end. | 01:55 |
| amitk | mjg59: ping for the usb-autosuspend-disable patch | 01:55 |
| amitk | BenC: nada | 01:56 |
| BenC | kylem: good morning...any comment on bug #119976? | 01:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119976 in linux-source-2.6.22 "All the task previous are killed after resumed from S3 on Santa Rosa with Crestline" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119976 | 01:56 |
| ogra | amitk, ooohhh is that like "dont unload my usb disk if / is on it during suspend" ? | 01:56 |
| kylem | if it only happens on the sdv and not on the production hw, i don't know what we can do | 01:56 |
| BenC | kylem: it almost doesn't sound like a kernel bug to me either | 01:58 |
| BenC | sounds like xorg crashing | 01:58 |
| kylem | yeah. | 01:58 |
| amitk | ogra: not really. It is mainly to avoid breaking a _lot_ of usb peripherals (scanners, printers, etc.) that don't deal with USB autosuspend very well. | 01:58 |
| kylem | my 965 box suspended and resumed at least 10 times in a row last night running gears, so i really don't see what the probelm is... | 02:00 |
| BenC | kylem: ok, can you comment on the bug, and maybe punt it over to xorg? | 02:00 |
| amitk | ogra: is it becoming common to have / on a usb disk? | 02:01 |
| BenC | amitk: there's a class of system where the built-in driver is a 2g usb flash | 02:02 |
| BenC | s/driver/drive/ | 02:02 |
| ogra | amitk, well, its the case for me on the classmate | 02:06 |
| ogra | and i guess it will become common in the embedded world as well | 02:07 |
| amitk | ogra: how is classmate dealing with it currently? | 02:10 |
| ogra | not at all, i had to disable suspend | 02:10 |
| ogra | you can suspend/resume fine ... up to the first disk access :) | 02:11 |
| amitk | ogra: a proper fix would probably require collating VFS mount information with USB disk information to make suspend decision... | 02:20 |
| ogra | well, a kernel option to just suppress the unloading would suffice for a start :) | 02:21 |
| ogra | indeed nifty autodetection etc would be cooler :) | 02:21 |
| amitk | but that would still leave usb disks with / on them un-suspendable | 02:22 |
| ogra | hmm | 02:26 |
| lamont | BenC: hppa ftbfs: module "serpent" went *poof* No clue what that module is, or if I even care if it is there... | 02:28 |
| BenC | lamont: I can add a modules.ignore for that | 02:28 |
| lamont | BenC: sounds good to me | 02:29 |
| amitk | ogra: /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend doesn't work? Or something like ./devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb4/power/autosuspend? | 02:29 |
| BenC | lamont: config CRYPTO_SERPENT | 02:29 |
| ogra | it didnt in feisty, i didnt try with gutsy yet .... | 02:29 |
| lamont | heh - I was half way guessing that would be a crypto module | 02:29 |
| lamont | it was either that or an I/O card | 02:30 |
| BenC | ogra: remember feisty didn't have that mod param...maybe it'll work for gutsy with that | 02:30 |
| ogra | BenC, i'll try it later today | 02:31 |
| BenC | lamont: hmm, the config option doesn't have any deps...no idea why it went missing | 02:31 |
| BenC | might be better to re-enable it | 02:31 |
| lamont | re-enabled is fine too | 02:31 |
| lamont | I got it: let's do both. :) | 02:31 |
| lamont | that way if there's another, it'll at least build | 02:31 |
| lamont | or does the modules check dump all of them before barfing? as opposed to just the first one | 02:32 |
| amitk | ogra: aahaa.. you tried this on feisty. | 02:32 |
| BenC | lamont: it dumps all | 02:32 |
| ogra | amitk, yeah, until recently i had no working gutsy image | 02:32 |
| BenC | lamont: plus modules.ignore is a list of modules, not a blanket ignore of failures | 02:32 |
| lamont | cool. IIRC it does hppa32 before hppa64, and abi before modules, so that should be the only issue in the build | 02:32 |
| lamont | oh | 02:32 |
| lamont | yeah - renable sounds good. | 02:33 |
| lamont | do you have an hppa box to play with? | 02:33 |
| BenC | lamont: was enabled in hppa32, re-enabled in hppa64, and updateconfigs leaves it intact | 02:34 |
| BenC | so this should be good for hppa to get built today | 02:34 |
| lamont | cool | 02:34 |
| lamont | atm linux-source-2.6.22 will fall into a pool of ~340 packages at the same pri in queue-mangler | 02:36 |
| lamont | hrm.. that reminds me... need to get some stuff pushed from universe | 02:36 |
| rtg | BenC: the only thing I might have is sky2 fixes. | 02:41 |
| BenC | rtg: ok | 02:42 |
| rtg | BenC: still waiting on Stephan. I'll bug him this morning. | 02:42 |
| BenC | reminder, we have a kernel team meeting at 1600 UTC | 02:42 |
| zul | yippe skippe | 02:43 |
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| mjg59 | amitk: Ok, will dig that out | 02:52 |
| tepsipakki | hey, I've filed a but against the gutsy kernel since it (?) claims that the flashdisk in my camera is corrupt, but the same happens with feisty kernel. Should I reassign it to another package? | 03:02 |
| tepsipakki | it works in feisty proper | 03:03 |
| tepsipakki | bug 134477 if interested :) | 03:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134477 in linux-source-2.6.22 "reports corrupt filesystem on flash-media, fine on feisty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134477 | 03:09 |
| soren | tepsipakki: "the same happens in feisty" vs. "fine on feisty"? | 03:17 |
| tepsipakki | soren: with feisty kernel on gutsy | 03:18 |
| tepsipakki | but a real feisty installation is ok | 03:18 |
| soren | tepsipakki: Ah, ok. | 03:19 |
| tepsipakki | so I'm wondering if it's a kernel bug at all, but somewhere else | 03:19 |
| tepsipakki | my wife is pissed off because I can't get the pictures from it :) | 03:19 |
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| BenC | tepsipakki: if the difference between working and not working is userspace, then blame userspace :) | 03:20 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: where do you see that it is corrupted? dmesg, gnome pop-up? | 03:21 |
| tepsipakki | dmesg, it doesn't get mounted | 03:21 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: can you mount it and see the files in a terminal? | 03:21 |
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| tepsipakki | no, not even fdisk works.. | 03:22 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: what filesystem? | 03:22 |
| tepsipakki | fat16 | 03:22 |
| tepsipakki | I don't have it handy atm | 03:22 |
| rtg | tepsipakki: Is it the same media? Perhaps flash is going bad.... | 03:22 |
| tepsipakki | but in 4h or so.. | 03:22 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: have you tried formatting it? | 03:23 |
| tepsipakki | rtg: same media yes, bought after last Christmas | 03:23 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: yes, worked fine on feisty | 03:23 |
| rtg | tepsipakki: If the problem can be reproduced with another part, then it might really be a bug. Otherwise I suspect a HW failure. | 03:24 |
| Lure | BenC: is it worthwhile to milestone bug 136257? - restart/reboot does not work on some HP laptops | 03:24 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136257 in linux-source-2.6.22 "regression: restart system does not work on HP nw8240" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136257 | 03:24 |
| tepsipakki | rtg: hmm, correct. I don't have another microsd-card available, though I could buy one | 03:24 |
| rtg | tepsipakki: The reason I say that it might be HW failure is that SD failures do not appear to be widespread. | 03:25 |
| BenC | Lure: yes, please, and see about testing reboot=b reboot=w reboot=h on the machine | 03:26 |
| BenC | try each one separately | 03:26 |
| Lure | BenC: ok, will do | 03:26 |
| BenC | Lure: will need output of "sudo dmidecode > dmidecode.txt" as well | 03:26 |
| tepsipakki | rtg: would that cover the fact that it works on feisty? | 03:27 |
| soren | tepsipakki: You've seen it work in Feisty after you've seen it fail on Gutsy? | 03:28 |
| tepsipakki | soren: yes | 03:28 |
| tepsipakki | I've reproduced the problem on three gutsy installations, but on my office workstation (feisty) it keeps working :/ | 03:29 |
| zul | BenC: about your email what about bugs that are in 2.6.20 that are still in gutsy (ie: pci ids, etc) | 03:31 |
| BenC | zul: add a target for 2.6.22 and milestone it for beta | 03:33 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hi - did you see my message about msi and mmconfig? | 03:37 |
| BenC | mjg59: no, missed that. What's up? | 03:37 |
| mjg59 | BenC: The patches we applied to feisty to alter the msi and mmconfig defaults seem to be missing | 03:38 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Was that deliberate? | 03:42 |
| BenC | mjg59: I asked kyle about it and I forget what he said | 03:48 |
| BenC | kylem: msi patches ^^ ? | 03:48 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Would it be possible to get the list of patches in feisty that aren't in gutsy? | 03:48 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: I/O errors are indicative of bad media | 03:49 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Or a broken driver, but yeah | 03:49 |
| kylem | they should be reapplied.. they weren't in the diff you sent me to bash into gutsy. | 03:49 |
| BenC | right, but if it used to work in feisty, and now doesn't work on feisty kernel, then I suspect hw | 03:50 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: right, I'll buy a new card (ExtremeIII this time, and bigger) and test with that | 03:50 |
| mjg59 | tepsipakki: This was SD, or compact flash? | 03:50 |
| tepsipakki | mjg59: SD | 03:50 |
| mjg59 | Ok. No clue, then. | 03:50 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: also, it does work on a real feisty install (not just kernel+gutsy) | 03:52 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: see, that makes no sense to me | 03:53 |
| BenC | feisty with gutsy userspace should not make this sort of things appear | 03:53 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: hopefully we'll be a whole lot wiser later today :) | 03:53 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: test a feisty and gutsy livecd if you can please | 03:54 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: sure will | 03:55 |
| BenC | tepsipakki: thanks | 03:55 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, dailies are oversized (even dvd) | 04:03 |
| mjg59 | Grab a CD daily and burn it to a dvd? | 04:03 |
| tepsipakki | oh, haven't done that yet :) | 04:03 |
| zul | BenC: okie dokie | 04:13 |
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| BenC | rtg, pkl_, kylem: btw, activity reports were due for this morning :) | 04:16 |
| pkl_ | BenC: I'm kinda busy at the moment :) | 04:17 |
| pkl_ | BenC: I'll do a quick activity report | 04:17 |
| rtg | BenC: Gusty debian/control-scripts/* ? | 04:18 |
| BenC | rtg: working on it now | 04:19 |
| amitk | mjg59: were you trying to get the isight camera working on gutsy? | 04:21 |
| mjg59 | amitk: Yeah, ought to work fine now | 04:22 |
| amitk | bug #131222 | 04:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 131222 in ubuntu "isight does not work in ubuntu gutsy - Video for Linux 2 (v4l2): Could not get buffers from device '/dev/video0'." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131222 | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | Oh, there's a gstreamer update needed if you want to use gstreamer | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | I uploaded it but managed to bodge the package somehow. I blame its clean target | 04:22 |
| mjg59 | I'll redo that at some stage | 04:23 |
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| amitk | mjg59: so we will have that for gutsy beta then? | 04:23 |
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| mjg59 | amitk: Should do, yes | 04:35 |
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| Lure | BenC: reboot=b work for bug 136257 | 04:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136257 in linux-source-2.6.22 "regression: restart system does not work on HP nw8240" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136257 | 04:46 |
| BenC | Lure: ok, with dmidecode we can force it for that specific machine | 04:46 |
| BenC | machine type | 04:46 |
| Lure | BenC: dmidecode is attached to bug | 04:46 |
| BenC | Lure: thanks | 04:46 |
| Lure | BenC: thank you! ;-) | 04:47 |
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| mjg59 | Wait. We used to have reboot=b for all HPs. | 04:58 |
| mjg59 | What happened to that? | 04:58 |
| mjg59 | In fact, we still do | 05:00 |
| mjg59 | Lure: Your dmi tables are broken | 05:00 |
| Lure | mjg59: how can I fix them? | 05:01 |
| mjg59 | Lure: Try updating your bios | 05:01 |
| Lure | oh shit, this requires windows again :-( | 05:01 |
| mjg59 | Well, the alternative is to just always boot with reboot=b | 05:01 |
| mjg59 | There's not enough information in your DMI tables to identify your system | 05:02 |
| Lure | mjg59: how can dmi table get corrupted, if I do not change bios? | 05:02 |
| Lure | mjg59: interesting... | 05:02 |
| mjg59 | No clue | 05:02 |
| bdmurray | BenC: Is there time to look at the cherry-pick tagged bug reports before Beta? | 05:08 |
| BenC | bdmurray: should be | 05:08 |
| BenC | bdmurray: do you have a quick link? | 05:08 |
| bdmurray | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=cherry-pick | 05:09 |
| bdmurray | It is a short url even. ;) | 05:09 |
| BenC | bdmurray: thanks | 05:09 |
| bdmurray | There are also some kernel-oops tagged bugs for 2.6.22 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kernel-oops | 05:10 |
| BenC | bdmurray: cherry-pick list done, except one report | 05:49 |
| BenC | bdmurray: any chance I could get you to add a list of tags we're using for the kernel to our bug triage page? | 05:49 |
| BenC | kylem: pushed all my changes to ubuntu-gutsy, she's all yours...thanks | 05:51 |
| BenC | kylem: abi's are all ready, just needs a insertchanges when all the patches are in | 05:51 |
| bdmurray | BenC: What is happening with usb autosuspend? | 05:51 |
| bdmurray | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/85488/comments/442 | 05:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 85488 in sane-backends "some usb_devices fault if usb_suspend enabled" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:52 |
| BenC | bdmurray: there's a blacklist of devices that disable auto-suspend | 05:52 |
| BenC | bdmurray: people are supposed to provide usb ven/dev id's for devices that need them | 05:52 |
| bdmurray | BenC: It looks like gregkh just commit a patch to disable autosupsend though | 05:52 |
| bdmurray | If I am reading that right. | 05:53 |
| BenC | bdmurray: probably misreading it, autosuspend is a config option you can disable already | 05:53 |
| bdmurray | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/gregkh/usb-2.6.git;a=commit;h=7d2c592609a7da950b458403f1936d382f38ff9c | 05:53 |
| BenC | and in gutsy you can add a module option to disable it as well | 05:54 |
| BenC | bdmurray: ok, let's toss that one into cherry-pick | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No, the default upstream is to disable autosuspend for everything other than hubs | 05:54 |
| zul | we already have that for 2.6.22 | 05:55 |
| BenC | mjg59: right, just read the commit | 05:55 |
| zul | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git;a=commit;h=db90e7a15cb4a160610b4e58576f25539ca216e7 | 05:56 |
| BenC | zul: doesn't look like we had it | 05:56 |
| zul | BenC: ^^ same commit | 05:56 |
| BenC | + | 05:56 |
| BenC | + /* By default, disable autosuspend for all non-hubs */ | 05:56 |
| BenC | +#ifdef CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND | 05:56 |
| BenC | + if (udev->descriptor.bDeviceClass != USB_CLASS_HUB) | 05:56 |
| BenC | + udev->autosuspend_delay = -1; | 05:56 |
| BenC | +#endif | 05:56 |
| BenC | we were missing that it seems | 05:56 |
| zul | ah yeah.. | 05:57 |
| zul | i see now | 05:57 |
| BenC | not the same commit | 05:57 |
| kylem | BenC, ok doke | 05:57 |
| zul | BenC: same commit message though ;) | 05:57 |
| BenC | zul: doesn't look like it to me :) | 05:58 |
| zul | maybe i should lay off the crack pipe then | 05:58 |
| BenC | as849 vs. as965 | 05:58 |
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| BenC | bdmurray: patch cherry-picked | 05:58 |
| bdmurray | So I could comment on 85488 saying that auto-suspend for USB devices will be disabled for everything except hubs. | 05:58 |
| maks_ | meeting? | 05:59 |
| BenC | bdmurray: yes, and fixed-committed for 2.6.22 | 05:59 |
| BenC | yep | 05:59 |
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| zul | whoops it looks like xen needs to be added to amd64 lum as well | 06:27 |
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| dholbach | rtg: I assigned bug 139323 to the kernel team because I thought that you guys would be the most knowledgeable about that package | 06:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139323 in libieee1284 "please sync from debian libieee1284 (0.2.10-8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139323 | 06:44 |
| dholbach | so I'd just need somebody who'd ACK that sync request if it's ok | 06:44 |
| rtg | dholbach: It looks harmless, but its way outside the kernel. | 06:44 |
| dholbach | rtg: the people who get those sponsoring bugs assigned are usually not the 'bug contacts' but people who might have a clue | 06:45 |
| ogra | are there any known bugs with usb dvb cards ? i had an oops last night with a Hanftek DVB-T card last night (kept dmesg if its not known yet) seems usbcore is stuck sice that happended (havent rebooted yet) | 06:45 |
| dholbach | rtg: I simply can't deal with all the sponsoring bugs that come in, so I need to assign them to people | 06:45 |
| rtg | dholbach: Well, I don't count as someone who has a clue about this one :) | 06:45 |
| dholbach | rtg: I thought that somebody in the kernel team might :) | 06:46 |
| dholbach | so all I need from somebody of you guys is a "OK, look good" and I won't pester you with this one any more :) | 06:47 |
| rtg | dholbach: OK, I'll update the LP report. | 06:47 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot rtg, I'll pass it on to ubuntu-archive then | 06:47 |
| ogra | ah, nm, found bug 115284 ... seems to be my issue | 06:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 115284 in linux-source-2.6.22 "USB DVB-T Tuner causes Kernel Oops" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115284 | 06:50 |
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| tepsipakki | rtg: with a new SD card I still get errors, so it's not that | 07:04 |
| tepsipakki | next I'll test feisty&gutsy live-cd's | 07:04 |
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| zul | stupid power | 07:09 |
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| Lure | mjg59: new bios does not fix the reboot problem, I have added new dmidecode to the bug | 07:33 |
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| BenC | Lure: bug# again? | 07:50 |
| Lure | BenC: bug 136257 - it looks like root cause is that "Product Name" is empty in dmidecode... | 07:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136257 in linux-source-2.6.22 "regression: restart system does not work on HP nw8240" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136257 | 07:51 |
| BenC | Lure: ok | 07:54 |
| Lure | BenC: not sure how this can happen to dmi table though... | 07:54 |
| BenC | Lure: vendor mistake | 07:54 |
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| tepsipakki | ok, feisty live-cd is ok, but gutsy is still broken | 08:07 |
| Lure | BenC: funny as it is, this laptop was properly reporting product name as seen in old bug 63123 | 08:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 63123 in linux-source-2.6.20 "battery info & fans do not work after hibernate (HP nw8240)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63123 | 08:08 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, on the other hand.. I don't get anything on the gutsy dmesg, maybe because the desktop is generally unusable on the daily live-cd | 08:16 |
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| tepsipakki | BenC: so, testing the gutsy live-cd failed, because it can't modprobe anything, they just hang | 08:32 |
| tepsipakki | I got the desktop to load eventually | 08:33 |
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| xhaker | woops | 09:51 |
| xhaker | bear with me | 09:52 |
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| === Nafallo can't see a difference between those two. | ||
| xhaker | s/10/11 | 09:58 |
| xhaker | it was s/26/33 before | 09:58 |
| xhaker | nitpicking :D | 09:58 |
| Nafallo | ooh | 09:58 |
| Nafallo | oki ;-) | 09:58 |
| xhaker | so who here knows Robert Moore? | 09:59 |
| mjg59 | At Intel? | 09:59 |
| xhaker | yes | 09:59 |
| mjg59 | He's not very involved in the Linux side of things | 09:59 |
| mjg59 | More just the core ACPI code | 09:59 |
| xhaker | yes | 09:59 |
| xhaker | that's why i'm trying to find him | 09:59 |
| mjg59 | He still occasionally pops up on the linux-acpi list | 10:00 |
| xhaker | i've read about the beta kernel milestone and etc | 10:00 |
| xhaker | mjg59, you probably don't remember this.. but i was trying to fix an acpi bug, present since 2.6.21, with acpi and batteries | 10:00 |
| xhaker | i've made a patch that you looked into.. but it's awesomely small and kindoff hard to document | 10:01 |
| xhaker | i've found another bug report upstream about it | 10:01 |
| xhaker | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8810 | 10:02 |
| ubotu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 8810 in ACPICA-Core "Laptop needs acpi_serialize to works - HP Pavillion dv8230us" [Normal,Reopened] | 10:02 |
| xhaker | could you please look into the last two comments there | 10:02 |
| Nafallo | oooh | 10:02 |
| Nafallo | ubotu is finally here :-D | 10:02 |
| xhaker | i know mjg59 is the laptops guy | 10:02 |
| xhaker | but you can look too Nafallo :) | 10:02 |
| Nafallo | xhaker: naah. can't :-P. | 10:02 |
| xhaker | mjg59, this other bug seems to be a duplicate http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8171 | 10:03 |
| ubotu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 8171 in ACPICA-Core "acpi_serialize locks system during boot" [Blocking,Assigned] | 10:03 |
| xhaker | but moore claims to be preparing a patch | 10:03 |
| xhaker | i've set this bug to high on launchpad.. this affects thinkpads too i think. | 10:04 |
| xhaker | reading robert moore's comments make me think my patch is not that crazy | 10:04 |
| mjg59 | xhaker: No, returning AE_OK there isn't the right thing to do. The execution failed. | 10:05 |
| xhaker | mjg59, yes, you might be right. i'd love to see robert's patch, could he have commit it yet? | 10:06 |
| xhaker | i'd set this bug to critical if i was brave enough | 10:07 |
| mjg59 | xhaker: If it's committed, it'll be in the acpi git tree | 10:07 |
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| mjg59 | it's on git.kernel.org | 10:09 |
| xhaker | mjg59, no related commit there.. crossing fingers for robert to free the patch | 10:19 |
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| bdmurray | mjg59: bug 74683 seems to be fix released now is that right? | 11:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 74683 in acpi-support "incorrect dependencies for acpi-support" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74683 | 11:16 |
| mjg59 | bdmurray: Yup | 11:22 |
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| bdmurray | mjg59: Okay, also looking at bug 77212 it looks like it could use a bit more love. | 11:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 77212 in acpi-support "No screen upon resume from suspend to ram (Fujitsu Lifebook S7020)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77212 | 11:26 |
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| elmo | oh, come on, seriously - the order of my sound cards is non-deterministic in feisty :-/ | 11:38 |
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| jwest- | any gdb gurus | 11:53 |
| gnomefreak | guru == knows how to use it? | 12:04 |
| BenC | elmo: there's some magic with id= for each module you can use to force it | 12:07 |
| elmo | BenC: I wish I didn't have to, but then I guess not many people have > 1 soundcard | 12:08 |
| BenC | elmo: mostly the media guys | 12:08 |
| BenC | wish the alsa/gnome stuff had a better way of configuring it in the UI | 12:09 |
| JanC | all peripheral devices should just have a built-in unique ID ;) | 12:13 |
| BenC | ieee1394 does :) | 12:15 |
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| mjg59 | Where did the rtl8180 driver go? | 12:18 |
| mjg59 | We only have rtl8187, which is the USB model | 12:19 |
| BenC | for some reason I was thinking rtl818x was both | 12:24 |
| mjg59 | I think rtl818x as a project is both, but we only have the 8187 portion | 12:24 |
| mjg59 | There's no mention of pci in the set we have | 12:25 |
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