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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 18 Sep 16:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 19 Sep 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 19 Sep 20:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 20 Sep 12:00 UTC: Desktop Team Development | 21 Sep 12:00 UTC: MOTU Team | 24 Sep 19:00 UTC: Screencast Team | ||
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kraut | moin | 11:20 |
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zul | @schedule montreal | 03:08 |
ubotu | Schedule for America/Montreal: 18 Sep 12:00: Kernel Team | 19 Sep 08:00: Edubuntu | 19 Sep 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 20 Sep 08:00: Desktop Team Development | 21 Sep 08:00: MOTU Team | 24 Sep 15:00: Screencast Team | 03:08 |
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mattwj2005 | I have a meeting idea | 04:58 |
mattwj2005 | my apartment today...job....to clean it...I'll throw in free Ubuntu CDs | 04:58 |
mattwj2005 | :P | 04:58 |
pochu | wi mattwj2005 | 04:58 |
mattwj2005 | :) just kidding | 04:59 |
maks_ | use robots | 04:59 |
mattwj2005 | hehe | 05:00 |
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mattwj2005 | I don't I just use beaming technology ;) | 05:00 |
mattwj2005 | *why don't I | 05:00 |
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ian_brasil | @schedule manaus | 05:59 |
zul | heylo | 05:59 |
ian_brasil | @schedule manaus | 05:59 |
ubotu | Schedule for America/Manaus: 18 Sep 12:00: Kernel Team | 19 Sep 08:00: Edubuntu | 19 Sep 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 20 Sep 08:00: Desktop Team Development | 21 Sep 08:00: MOTU Team | 24 Sep 15:00: Screencast Team | 05:59 |
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BenC | missing pkl, but he's known to be busy | 06:02 |
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BenC | Ok, this is the start of the Kernel Team meeting | 06:02 |
BenC | agenda hasn't been updated, but it's quite simple | 06:02 |
BenC | beta freeze looming, and we are handling as many bugs as possible to make beta release | 06:03 |
BenC | The most major issue right now is the unionfs breakage that pkl is working | 06:03 |
BenC | pkl_: Can you give a quick one or two lines about your status so you can get back to things? | 06:03 |
pkl_ | I have identified two serious bugs in Unionfs that the liveCD is hitting | 06:04 |
BenC | two...are they both causing the same symptom we've been seeing about refcount backtrace? | 06:05 |
ogra | pkl_, i see a lot issues in ltsp as well recently ... if you need any logs or so, just ask .. | 06:05 |
pkl_ | The first relates to the BUG_ON in fanout.h, called by unionfs_flush (file close). This is a race condition, not with the actual dentry being closed, but with the parent dentry going bad, with no branches (which is wrong). | 06:06 |
pkl_ | I believe the problem is related to rsyncing of the parent unionfs directory with the lower filesystems (i.e. ro squashfs, and rw tmpfs). | 06:07 |
pkl_ | The good thing is whilst I've not discovered the underlying problem, it is easily worked around. | 06:07 |
BenC | is that a kernel work around, or a userspace one? | 06:08 |
pkl_ | kernel unionfs workaround - the only reason why the parent branches are being examined is to resync the mtime. A simple fix is to check there _are_ branches on the parent dentry, and to skip the mtime resync if there aren't. This "fixes" the BUG_ON in my tests. | 06:09 |
pkl_ | It is a workaround that will work while the underlying race is identified. | 06:10 |
pkl_ | The second bug is the kernel oops in inode.c (unionfs_open). | 06:11 |
BenC | ok, that'll make everyone happy happy | 06:11 |
BenC | pkl_: did that bug show up after your workaround, or was that known before? | 06:11 |
pkl_ | The second bug? That showed up before the workaround. | 06:12 |
BenC | ok | 06:12 |
pkl_ | This is caused because occasionally the vfsmnt point for a lower dentry is NULL. | 06:12 |
pkl_ | A little bit of background. | 06:13 |
pkl_ | When a unionfs dentry is opened, unionfs in turn opens all the corresponding dentries on the lower filesystems (the branches). | 06:13 |
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pkl_ | Unionfs stores the correspondng underlying dentries and their vfsmount points. | 06:14 |
BenC | pkl_: this all revolves around the vfs changes for apparmor? | 06:15 |
pkl_ | It is relatef. apparmor changes the vfs interface so much more vfs functions expect the vfsmount. | 06:15 |
pkl_ | In this case, however, the vfs dentry_open() function has always expected a vfsmount, and so it is unrelated to the vfs changes. | 06:16 |
pkl_ | ^unrelated^not caused | 06:16 |
BenC | Ok, guess I can't bad mouth kees now :) | 06:17 |
pkl_ | Again, the underlying reason appears to be a race condition. | 06:17 |
pkl_ | Still working on the cause. | 06:17 |
BenC | pkl_: have you talked to unionfs upstream about this at all? | 06:18 |
pkl_ | As a temporary workaround, I have put a hack in the unionfs_open code to remember the correct vfsmount point for each branch. In the case of the liveCD there's two branches, and therefore two vfsmount points. | 06:18 |
pkl_ | if the vfsmount point lookup for a dentry fails, the hack replaces it with the correct vfsmount point previously remembered. | 06:19 |
pkl_ | This fixes the oops, and it is definately the cause. | 06:19 |
BenC | pkl_: Ok, two workarounds sounds like decent progress, so excellent work. When can we get these in lum for an upload? | 06:20 |
pkl_ | Now I have establised the causes I can email the unionfs guys. | 06:20 |
pkl_ | I was planning on putting the hacks into lum in a couple of hours (I have to strip them out of my heavily hacked unionfs code). | 06:21 |
BenC | pkl_: ok, ping me when you're ready and I'll get an upload out | 06:22 |
pkl_ | OK | 06:22 |
BenC | thanks | 06:22 |
BenC | So I sent an email to the kernel-team list explaining what our current focus should be | 06:24 |
BenC | At this point in release cycle is where we are usually the busiest | 06:25 |
BenC | I don't forsee any problems like we've had in the past, simply because the upstream kernel stabalized very well and we stuck to stock code so strictly | 06:26 |
BenC | but we do have some minor usage bugs and some regressions that we should handle in the next few weeks | 06:27 |
BenC | and we need to keep a close eye on the incoming bugs (and bugs marked NEW) to make sure we aren't over looking anything major | 06:27 |
BenC | amitk, rtg_, kylem: Anything major you guys are working on that needs to get in with beta? | 06:29 |
kylem | amt. | 06:29 |
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rtg_ | misc sky2 fixes, perhaps some audio quirks. Dunno for sure yet. | 06:29 |
zul | bug #77725 should probably get in | 06:31 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 77725 in linux-source-2.6.17 "No Driver for Attansic Gigabit Ethernet" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77725 | 06:31 |
kylem | .. | 06:31 |
amitk | just the usb-autosuspend-prevention patch from mjg59 | 06:31 |
kylem | atl1 is in gutsy. | 06:31 |
kylem | oh. | 06:32 |
kylem | they should file a second bug. | 06:32 |
kylem | muppets. | 06:32 |
amitk | hmm... I just noticed you cherry-picked it... | 06:32 |
BenC | amitk: merged that already | 06:33 |
BenC | kylem: yeah, that's what I started to think till I got down to the atl2 part | 06:33 |
BenC | ok, atl2 should be put into lum | 06:34 |
BenC | anyone up for doing that? | 06:34 |
zul | i can since i brought it up | 06:34 |
BenC | zul: you sure can...good man :) | 06:34 |
BenC | zul: shoot a pull request to #ubuntu-kernel when you can, thanks | 06:35 |
zul | no probs | 06:35 |
BenC | the other major issue is the header post{inst,rm} scripts that I am working on | 06:35 |
BenC | needed for DKMS and feisty compatibility | 06:35 |
rtg_ | BenC: why is it more complicated then just fixing the perl expressions? | 06:37 |
BenC | rtg_: because the scripts from kernel-package need to be munged a bit | 06:37 |
BenC | debconf stuff removed/disabled, variable replacements taken into account | 06:37 |
BenC | rtg_: fixing the perl replacements in kernel-package doesn't fix our kernel builds, and the scripts are not 1-to-1 compatible with our build system | 06:38 |
rtg_ | Well, I haven't delved into it in that level of detail. | 06:39 |
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BenC | Ok, any other business? | 06:40 |
dholbach | is somebody on bug 98641? | 06:41 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 98641 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx-new] Driver is missing libwfb breaking X on 8000 series cards" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98641 | 06:41 |
dholbach | it's on the sponsoring bug queue | 06:41 |
BenC | dholbach: already fixed | 06:42 |
dholbach | rock on - thanks a lot - can it be closed then? | 06:42 |
BenC | yeah, definitely | 06:42 |
dholbach | ok great | 06:42 |
dholbach | gracias | 06:42 |
dholbach | thanks for dealing with the sponsoring bugs | 06:43 |
BenC | and with that, let's cut this meeting out so we can all get back to work :) | 06:43 |
BenC | dholbach: np, thanks for keeping up on them | 06:43 |
BenC | thanks everyone | 06:44 |
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siretart | do meetings using the MootBot need to be registered somewhere? | 09:51 |
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