=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ - TOP 10 Uploaders/Packages | New Packages Freeze in effect === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Fujitsu at Fri Aug 31 12:13:05 2007 [04:49] (ajmitch/#ubuntu-motu) zul: now everyone will want one! [04:49] ajmitch: a rough life? no a 22 inch wide screen monitor maybe [04:50] nah, referring to the blog post [04:51] heh [04:51] anyways my wife is telling me to go to bed [04:51] night folks [04:51] gnight zul [04:52] night [04:52] stupid libgcr410 [04:52] hrm are the ubuntu pbuilder/debootstrap scripts in debian proper ? [04:54] Not the versions that know about Ubuntu, AFAIK. [04:55] ajmitch: you running nvidia driver or nv ? [04:55] ( on gutsy ) [04:58] bryce: do you have a minute for some reason after implementing bulletproof X my gdm is too big for my screen, seems like a res. issue but i cant figure out how to change it, i talked with seb128 the other day and we were able to come up with gdm is fine but xorg might have caused it, and im assuming it was changed during the 200+ updates i had when i got home after a week [04:58] ScottK, imbrandon: sid's debootstrap has all scripts for Ubuntu, from warty to gutsy. [04:58] imbrandon: nvidia [04:59] minghua: Thanks. I did not know that. [04:59] last i tried i couldnt build a sid chroot maybe a minth ago === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-042-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] it was failing i blamed dchroot TBH [05:00] And FWIW, cdebootstrap seems to have Ubuntu support too. I don't see any distro-specific stuff in pbuilder, though. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === brylie [n=brylie@CPE-75-81-97-106.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zachy [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-051-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] ScottK: What was the fix for courier? [05:15] Added the test for /var/run/courier ownership to the inits for courier-ldap and courier-mta-ssl where they were missing. [05:16] I discovered that /var/run/courier is supposed (on persistent systems) to be created by courier-authdaemon. === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.233.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-122-118.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cjracker [n=usarname@cpe-70-125-133-199.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] Good night all. [06:32] Gnight ScottK === crawwler [n=andrew@adsl-75-4-197-29.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] Is it me, or is gnome-terminal broken after latest updates? [06:43] its working for me, actually it fixed a lot of little problems for me the last update [06:43] I'm on amd64 though [06:44] Gnight folks [06:44] nite bddebian === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] rob: Have you restarted gnome/gnome-terminal since your last update? [06:45] rob: I get the same behavior on two different systems, with totally different CPUs. [06:45] yes, I had to restart twice before it all worked though [06:45] no idea why [06:45] me neither. === rob just remoted back into his gutsy box to check and it is working === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] Ok. One miro bug down. Now, for the more difficult Xgl bugs. === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] Ah found the bug report, and a temporary fi. [07:29] fi [07:29] fix [07:30] Does the fix include a new keyboard? :-P [07:30] nice [07:30] StevenK: heh no, just setting a gconf value. [07:31] I'm getting a lot of the following when compiling nx on gutsy amd64 at the moment, am I right to assume it just doesn't like 64-bit? [07:31] Composite.c:204: warning: format '%ld' expects type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'Window' [07:32] pbuilder eventually fails building === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Frogzoo_ [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-b3d0125e6bac53ff] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@p79.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wayg [i=Fywqif@modemcable028.216-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:wayg] : http://st-pitch.miniville.fr/ Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ - TOP 10 Uploaders/Packages | New Packages Freeze in effect === wayg [i=Fywqif@modemcable028.216-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === wayg [i=Fywqif@modemcable028.216-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wayg [i=Fywqif@modemcable028.216-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:RAOF] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ - TOP 10 Uploaders/Packages | New Packages Freeze in effect === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@ppp121-44-89-116.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] RAOF: the Top 10 doesn't have its URL anymore === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] RAOF: ignore me...I was looking AFTER === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-051-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] tonyyarusso: Heh. [08:33] RAOF: I think I'm allowed to not be able to read after 1 am, right? [08:34] Seems about right. [08:34] Hm. I wonder if my Xgl question will get more of a response here than in #ubuntu-desktop, which seems dead. [08:35] RAOF: Now I'm curious. [08:35] StevenK: Eeeeexcelent. === eMerzh [n=eMerzh@sd440.sivit.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] So, the problem is that Xgl breaks user-switching, for two reasons. === eMerzh [n=eMerzh@sd440.sivit.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:36] (1) It always tries to spawn a server on :1, which is on reflection stupid, and easily fixable by looking at the lockfiles in /tmp/.Xfoo === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] (2) 3D (often?) doesn't work for the second user's X server, and this breaks Xgl like a twig. [08:38] So, options that I can think of include: trying to detect if 3D will work, and only launching Xgl then (hard, from what I gather). Not killing the login process when Xgl fails to start (also hard) === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] Messing with GDM's configuration to get GDM to spawn an Xgl server rather than an X server (a bit evil, but moderately easy, and should fix "compiz doesn't work for second user" as an added bonus). === Lonedar [n=lonedar@81.198.91.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.144.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] Opinions? Comments? Suggestions? [08:40] You can't. GDM's configuration file is owned by gdm, and xgl can't play in that sandpit. [08:41] Yes, I know. Evil. [08:41] <\sh> hmmm...anybody has problems with gnome right now? [08:41] GDM doesn't appear to have a "I check the files in this directory for config", which would make this problem much easier. [08:42] \sh: No, unless it's something more specific that I just haven't tried yet. [08:44] <\sh> RAOF: something is crashing all the time, I think it's the session manager [08:44] Bah! Wine still sucks. [08:44] <\sh> RAOF: my gdm is not starting up [08:44] <\sh> -EITOLDYOUSO ,-> [08:45] \sh: Wow. No, I'm not seeing that. [08:45] <\sh> RAOF: gdm is totally black [08:45] It's the new theme. [08:45] Cool. :) [08:45] <\sh> RAOF: starting gnome via kdm brings the panel but all apps are somehow screwed [08:46] Black on black. :-P === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-114-109.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] StevenK: So, any contribution other than "you can't mess with conffiles owned by gdm"? [08:49] RAOF: No, sorry [08:49] That's OK. [08:51] I'll wait for mvo or Amaranth to appear then, they'll be prime targets :) === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@59.92.89.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF looks at the wine bugzilla and decides not to file a "you suck on Xgl" bug. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F741C8.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] good morning [09:02] dholbach: Good $TIME_OF_DAY [09:02] hey RAOF === rastal [n=samuelig@147.pool85-57-133.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] dholbach: Morgen [09:07] good morning [09:07] guten morgen geser :) [09:07] hey rastal [09:08] :-) === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] how are y'all doing? [09:08] hey vil [09:09] hey dholbach [09:14] hi dholbach === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] heya ajmitch - how's it going? [09:20] hey dholbach === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] heya superm1 - how are you? [09:21] good, you? [09:21] dholbach, fairly stressed :) [09:21] tomorrow is the career fair, so i've been busy with LaTeXifying my resume and lots of other preparatory stuff [09:22] superm1: man... I wish you all the best with that! [09:22] ajmitch: quite good too, thanks [09:23] just getting ill and my gnome seems a bit bong too at the moment [09:23] ouch [09:23] stay well, please :) [09:23] dholbach, thanks, still been (attempting to be) balancing items with ubuntu work and such though too. [09:24] I'll try my best :) [09:25] dholbach, with your new position, are you still regularly going through ubuntu-main-sponsors queue? [09:25] superm1: yes, that's part of it - one of the first things I wanted to speed up is the sponsoring process, but I need to get better at nagging canonical people into doing reviews and uploads still :) [09:26] cool okay, well i won't nag for the item that i've got in there then :) [09:26] good morning dholbach [09:26] superm1: which one are you talking about? the lirc upload? [09:26] hey jussi01 [09:26] dholbach, yeah i've got a lirc item in there === dholbach hugs superm1 === superm1 hugs dholbach === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F741C8.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.194.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcel [n=marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === huats [n=huats@194.98.120.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F73507.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jono [i=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=viper@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=viper@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] Hobbsee! [10:34] ajmitch! === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] Hi Hobbsee! [10:37] hi geser! === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] Hi all [10:44] jono: Oh by the way : Happy birthday... a little too late... [10:45] thanks huats :) === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] jono: I've just read you blog entry... at first I though it was today... [10:46] jono: whcih is mine ! [10:46] jono: :-) [10:47] huats: happy birthday! [10:47] jono: thanks :-) === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@host33-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slytherin [n=Salazar@pdpc/supporter/base/slytherin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] does anybody can explain me a bit how kde is looking for icons that are referenced in .desktop files ? is it also in /usr/share/app-install/icons ? === amachu [n=amachu@202.71.146.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] <\sh> damn..my ldap is down === kagou [n=Patrice@77.193.181.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73507.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger__ [n=me@N850P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora30 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-7a9ed0cfbf1bdd7b] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] huats: I dont know if this explains it, but I think so. :) http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ [11:56] jussi01: first thanks for the link... === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:57] :) [11:57] jussi01: in fact I am actually trying to have a lok at bug #121984 [11:57] Launchpad bug 121984 in kdepim "kandy: no icon in kubuntu feisty's kde menu" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121984 [11:59] jussi01: there is something unclear : if I understood correctly the idea is to nt dupplicate stuffs... so let the icons in the kdeartwork-theme-icon package and not ship them with the kandy package... [12:00] huats: Im at work atm. Im sorry, I dont have time to look atm [12:00] jussi01: but the kdeartwork-theme-icon install icons in usr/share/icons/ikons/XXxXX/icons which is not a path where the icons for installed applications ... [12:00] huats: have you tried asking in #kubuntu-devel where (hopefully) the kubuntu experts are? [12:00] geser: nope === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] geser: I went here... to discuss that with MOTUs :-) === rastal [n=samuelig@147.pool85-57-133.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] geser: but I will right now :-) === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-20-205.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yamal [n=yamal@wlan-145-94-223-95.wlan.tudelft.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou_ [n=Patrice@78.115.135.51] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@95.Red-83-32-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] <\sh> guys, did anyone in here played around with the apache directory server? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bheekling [n=bheeklin@203.200.95.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crummygummy_ [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] dholbach: I think I'll unsubscribe uus from 140426 as it is taken care of, and no longer needs to be on your page for sponsoring, or on the bug list. [01:01] TheMuso: ok great === bheekling [n=bheeklin@203.200.95.130] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [01:10] bluekuja: Re bug 94987, now that we are using LP: # tags in changelogs, there is no need to reset the bug back to fix committted. The upload automatically sets the bug to fix released, and so consequently, you don't need to add the acception info to the bug either. [01:10] Launchpad bug 94987 in g3data "g3data lacks menu icon and mime-type binding" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94987 [01:10] As the changelog for the upload gets added, which is quite enough. === jono [i=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.242.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Le-Chuck_IT1 [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-112.di.unipi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] Hi, a quick question: where does one put the png and svg files that will be shown in the gnome menu for an application in an ubuntu package? Upstream puts that in /usr/share/APPNAME/appname.svg [01:31] but in the gnome menu the icon does not show up [01:31] is there some "update-menu-icons" to run? [01:32] and if so, should I add it to postinstall scripts? [01:33] Le-Chuck_IT1: /usr/share/pixmaps/*.png, and /usr/share//icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/*.svg [01:33] should I copy the icons in the "debian" directory? [01:33] and then install them [01:33] or should I modify the upstream makefile? [01:35] For the first option, you don't need to copy them, just use debian/package.install [01:36] But probably send a patch to upstream with a modified Makefile, and tell them that that's the freedesktop.org spec :) [01:36] doing both! :) [01:36] thank you [01:37] yw :) [01:42] and, er, upstream provided only an svg icon for the mimetype === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] do I put that in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/mimetypes? [01:43] I did this, and nautilus is not using the icon [01:43] but now I manually set the icon [01:43] and nautilus is not using it anyway :( === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu doesn't know about mimetypes [01:45] ok thanks :) [01:46] Is there a reason the pretty Gnome utils are being replaced by RedHat's system-tools packages? [01:46] I really prefer the ones we have ... D: [01:48] we generally follow upstream [01:49] eek, a month === ogra imagines a developer polonaise [01:49] polonaise? [01:50] " we generally follow upstream" [01:50] 3. (Mus.) A stately Polish dance tune, in 3-4 measure, [01:50] beginning always on the beat with a quaver followed by a [01:50] crotchet, and closing on the beat after a strong accent on [01:50] the second beat; also, a dance adapted to such music; a [01:50] polacca. [01:50] ah right [01:51] flood! :) [01:52] bluefoxicy: probably because they work [01:53] zul: mm? The printer tool works well for me, aside from it not auto-configuring a printer on hotplug. [01:53] that was the first to go. === Hobbsee floods pochu === Hobbsee defenestrates him for good measure. [01:53] XD === bluefoxicy gives Hobbsee a cookie [01:54] Hrn. The -rt kernels don't have drivers for most stuff, like nvidia or ati cards. [01:54] i guess upstream closed source modules can't cope with the changes [01:55] Hobbsee: what about the LongPointyStick? :) === Le-Chuck_IT1 [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-112.di.unipi.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === hoora106 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-8f10ed26a5eee500] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee happily eats the cookie [01:59] bluefoxicy: when you are running the -rt kernel you dont want the heaviness of the proprietry drivers, if I understood correctly what one of the -rt devs was telling me. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] jussi01: making heavy tasks (including kernel tasks) matter less to responsiveness is what -rt is all about. [02:01] work time. [02:01] :) [02:01] me too === Lonedar_ [n=lonedar@81.198.91.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] TheMuso, hey [02:09] TheMuso, thanks for the hint [02:09] :) [02:10] bluekuja: You're welcome. [02:10] TheMuso, :) === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmr_ [i=lmr@nat/ibm.br/x-fdfe07e8877fe196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] dholbach: Hi [02:45] dholbach: can I pm you ? === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] are ubuntu-archive requests going to be processed at some point? ;) === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-45-48.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slytherin [n=Salazar@pdpc/supporter/base/slytherin] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rastal [n=samuelig@147.pool85-57-133.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@cli-134.wireless-s.units.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:58] moin all === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@cable-87-244-153-189.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dfiloni [n=dfiloni@host67-250-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] lucas: try asking the archive-admins in #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.101.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === avoine [n=avoine@modemcable003.251-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@62.6.158.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@unaffiliated/radhios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] hey huats, sure, go ahead [03:33] huats: sorry, was away for a dogwalk [03:33] dholbach: that was my guess :-) [03:33] hehe === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] hi, dholbach [03:46] dholbach, any luck on bug 134560 ? [03:46] Launchpad bug 134560 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] vinagre - vnc client" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134560 [03:46] jwendell: I need to check it out again, but I'm busy with a bunch of other stuff - I'll get back to it, I promise [03:46] dholbach, thanks ;) [03:48] one day or another, at least. === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yamal [n=yamal@unaffiliated/yamal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-112.di.unipi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] hi all. Regarding bug #137934, should I open a _new_ bug with name UVFe: xournal 0.4.1 [04:12] Launchpad bug 137934 in xournal "Please sponsor xournal 0.4.0.1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137934 [04:12] or can I leave things as they are? === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD6094.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] Le-Chuck_ITA: you can just add the uvfe info to the same bug, etc [04:13] thank you [04:14] !ping [04:14] pong === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] hi [04:16] Heya gang === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] Hi bddebian [04:18] Hi geser === StevenHarperUK_ [n=richard@user-5af1a7ac.tcl120.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] wrong place to ask but do you know how to solve the problem that gconfd can't be contacted? I rebooted but nope, I have a terrible desktop now. gconfd and dbus are running (I checked with ps ax) === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.240.120] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] Hi, I have a question, I have a PPA on launchpad, and I have added my repositories to my /etc/apt/sources/list, but my packages are only appearing in synaptic and command line apt-get or apt-search, how do I get them to appear in the graphical manager? [04:21] you mean update-manager? [04:21] StevenHarperUK_: suggestion: reread what you said, fix it. === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rastal [n=samuelig@147.pool85-57-133.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] How do I get PPA packages to appear in the Graphical apt-manager? [04:24] Yes sorry:@ I mean when you choose Add/Remove [04:24] I want my packages to appear in there, they do when I choose use apt-search from a terminal [04:24] ah that one [04:25] gnome-app-install uses other data than apt/synaptic [04:25] Do you know what I have to change? [04:25] gnome-app-install uses the .desktop files in /usr/share/app-install [04:26] Ho hum, what to do, what to do.. [04:27] geser : is there anything I can change to make it work? [04:27] bddebian: sponsorship queue. get to it. [04:28] There wasn't much there last night [04:28] StevenHarperUK_: I guess you would need to install a .desktop file there, but I've no idea you could do it === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] StevenHarperUK_: installing the desktop file in one off your packages is useless because then you already have you packages installed [04:29] Right so dist upgrades put new package .desktops in there ? [04:29] But ..... I thought StevenHarperUK_ was talking about things like the Commercial repo, which appear there. === kagou_ [n=Patrice@78.115.135.51] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] [04:29] Which are in /usr/share/app-install/channels === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] StevenK: it needs a manual mvo fixing each time [04:30] StevenHarperUK_: those files are installed by app-install-data [04:30] StevenK: as in, a manual mvo updating of every package in the archive [04:30] In the commercial archive? [04:30] I'm confused [04:30] Hobbsee: where can I find information about sponsored uploads for universe? I want to check that I did everything right since I used a new script by dholbac [04:31] I have packages on my PPA , what I want is for users of my app to be able to just add my PPA repository to their sources.list then use teh graphical manager to get it [04:31] I mean where is the relevant wiki page [04:31] Le-Chuck_ITA: the /topic [04:31] see the section on sponsorship [04:31] StevenK: in the commercial archive, in any archive.ubuntu.com/* as wlel [04:32] I guess that I can't do it [04:32] I see no (easy) solution for it === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] its a terminal only job - thanks for the help thou [04:33] I understand more now [04:34] ok im off back to work : thanks for the help [04:34] you would need to have a newer app-install-data in your ppa and get the user to upgrade to it but IMHO that's not a good idea [04:34] Yeh I guess mucking about with that is a bad idea === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-112.di.unipi.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving."] === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.168.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MehdiHassanpour [n=Mehdi@ubuntu/member/MehdiHassanpour] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MehdiHassanpour I could finally create backport packages for Pidgin & Stardict feor feisty :-) [04:47] awesome === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-36-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] dholbach: are you there? [04:48] bigon: yes, I am :) [04:48] dholbach: :) [04:49] dholbach: could you activate the ppa for the telepathy team? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] bigon: done === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] dholbach: thx :) [04:49] de rien === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] jdong: ty for help :-) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-222-139.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === taupter_ [n=Taupter@201009077141.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@198.66.91.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-b %*!*@88.203.73.158] by Hobbsee === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b %eagles0513875!*@*] by Hobbsee === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.158.244] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@198.66.91.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=Sp4rKy@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eagles0513875 [n=jonathan@198.66.91.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxcrafte2 [n=TuxCraft@145.52.123.140] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] how do I match a specific command to its package? [05:38] dpkg -S /usr/bin/command [05:38] +1 :-) [05:39] hello man-di [05:39] arthur-: hello [05:40] man-di: thank you very much [05:40] that was it for today === tuxcrafte2 [n=TuxCraft@145.52.123.140] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-051-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK_ [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jono [i=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-112.di.unipi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] Hi all [05:48] always here asking lots of questions [05:48] now, can I just subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to my bug [05:48] or is there a procedure to follow? [05:49] The procedure is subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors :) [05:49] as long as it's ready for upload [05:49] Le-Chuck_ITA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing#head-b205c74e27fe15e79e10c9e7f14d3cdfb359d81d [05:49] ok [05:50] Le-Chuck_ITA: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue [05:50] great === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] Hobbsee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_commands#deop === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === arthur- [n=arthur@serv2.dunnewind.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [requested] === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === arthur- [n=arthur@serv2.dunnewind.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] arthur-: how disappointing. it doesnt have remove, for freenode. [05:58] Hobbsee: and what was the _good_ reason for removing him? (there's nothing offending in what he said... :/) [05:59] I created a debdiff with debdiff [05:59] and the patch "attempted to create file pixmaps/xoj.svg, which already exists" [05:59] how is this possible? === dfiloni [n=dfiloni@host185-251-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] also: is it normal that debdiff created a patch with "/tmp/G8hyu0HNDA/xournal-0.4.1ubuntu1/ChangeLog" in it? [06:06] I mean shouln't it just mention files _inside_ the source tree without any path? [06:06] Le-Chuck_ITA, just delete temp stuff [06:06] ^ [06:06] ? [06:06] if it gets created [06:06] like this case [06:07] you can delete it manually === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] I don't understand what you mean: I call debdiff with the two dsc arguments, I "make clean" and "debuild clean" before debdiffing [06:07] Le-Chuck_ITA, yeah, just delete it manually [06:07] but what? [06:07] but nothing [06:07] I mean: what should I delete? [06:07] temp stuff [06:07] there isn't temp stuff [06:07] /tmp/G8hyu0HNDA [06:08] no [06:08] I think that debdiff created two dirs [06:08] edit the debdiff [06:08] in /tmp [06:08] to compare [06:08] aaaaaaah === asantoni [n=alb@CPE000f3d9e6f8d-CM001868e2c60e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] Le-Chuck_ITA, ... [06:08] Le-Chuck_ITA, edit the debdiff manually [06:08] ok now I understand what you mean [06:08] yes [06:08] it's normal for native packages that debdiff extracts them in /tmp and then runs diff [06:08] yup [06:08] I have the two source trees unpacked [06:09] Le-Chuck_ITA, so? [06:09] Le-Chuck_ITA, geser explained you how does it work [06:09] so dont worry [06:09] how should I invoke debdiff without making it extract the package in /tmp? [06:09] Le-Chuck_ITA, I think you cant [06:10] geser? [06:10] hmmm but... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing#head-b205c74e27fe15e79e10c9e7f14d3cdfb359d81d === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] there it uses "patch -p1" [06:10] and does not mention editing the patch [06:10] I don't know of an option to suppress it [06:10] Le-Chuck_ITA, what's the problem? [06:11] you dont have to edit the patch [06:11] you are working on a debdiff [06:11] and you get tmp stuff [06:11] that's normal [06:11] Le-Chuck_ITA: usually you don't have the /tmp in the debdiff, this only happens on native packages [06:11] Le-Chuck_ITA, patch -p1 is to apply your debdiff [06:11] yes [06:11] you then need patch -p4 (iirc) [06:11] when a MOTU reviews it [06:12] Ok === mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] Le-Chuck_ITA, but as geser said, it's normal to have it on native packages [06:12] how you should move then? [06:12] just delete tmp stuff manually [06:12] on the debdiff [06:12] :) [06:12] and there wont be problems [06:13] I may look stupid but I still don't get one thing :) : should I edit the debdiff so that all occurrences of "/tmp/NVmlawJQiX/" are deleted? [06:13] Le-Chuck_ITA, yup, that's it [06:13] so strange :) ok doing that [06:13] /tmp/NVmlawJQiX should not be there [06:14] so you just delete it [06:14] :) [06:14] Le-Chuck_ITA, bug number? [06:14] bug #137934 [06:14] Launchpad bug 137934 in xournal "Please sponsor xournal 0.4.1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137934 [06:15] do I leave a / at the beginning of the file names? [06:15] delete it too [06:16] ok === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] now I have the other problem I mentioned [06:17] The next patch would create the file pixmaps/xoj.svg, [06:17] which already exists! Assume -R? [n] [06:17] why debdiff added this file to the patch [06:17] if it's already there in the original source tree [06:17] I don't understand this [06:18] Le-Chuck_ITA, I dont know what you're trying to do [06:18] Le-Chuck_ITA, I dont know whats your debdiff [06:18] I have the original source tree [06:18] and my version [06:18] which is the new upstream release [06:18] I want to provide a debdiff that applies cleanly to the original source tree [06:19] Le-Chuck_ITA, why? [06:19] (which I am deleting unpacking again for each attempt, of course) [06:19] Le-Chuck_ITA, why you are providing a debdiff for a new upstream release? [06:19] ahemmm [06:19] I thought [06:19] that I had to do this [06:19] Le-Chuck_ITA, is it UVF approved? [06:19] we are on a new upstream freeze [06:19] atm [06:19] not yet but I have to provide a working package [06:19] yes I know [06:19] I am trying [06:20] everything is explained in the bug report [06:20] but before subscribing the sponsors to the bug [06:20] Le-Chuck_ITA, before doing anything, you need to get an approvation from UVF [06:20] I have to make the debdiff work no? [06:20] with a good motivation [06:20] motivation is very good [06:20] to have it packaged inside the archive [06:20] xournal cannot be used at all [06:20] in gutsy [06:20] but don't I have to provide a debdiff? [06:20] Le-Chuck_ITA, then add motu-uvf [06:21] and get an approvation [06:21] Le-Chuck_ITA, then provide a dsc orig e diff.gz [06:21] for the new upstream release [06:21] not a debdiff [06:22] Le-Chuck_ITA, you can use a debdiff for bug fixes et all [06:22] but not for upstream versions [06:22] it would be great to have it on REVU [06:22] (after approvation) [06:22] bluekuja: That's correct. === davromaniak [n=cyril@ubuntu/member/davromaniak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] (bluekuja: are you italian by the way) I thought that revu was only for new packages [06:23] ScottK, :) === davro-desktop [n=davro@ubuntu/member/davromaniak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] Le-Chuck_ITA: New and new upstream versions. [06:23] Le-Chuck_ITA, I'm italian yes [06:23] I noticed the "e" in place of "and" :) [06:24] I went crazy to provide the debdiff :( [06:24] Le-Chuck_ITA, ScottK can check your request and approve/reject it [06:24] he's an UVF member [06:24] Once it is approved, who prepares the new package? [06:24]