=== Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/ + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/trunk | Mailing List: ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by asac at Tue Aug 21 12:22:59 2007 === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-122-118.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:59] i hate PPA atm i uploaded ffox-trunk and it was accepted (got email and its on site) hasnt been sent to build (its been 2hours) and its set to Pending/Removal already i asked in LP but i doubt i will get answer on it [06:17] ubotu: you are most likely sleeping but with kazehakase you have lates changelog at 4.3 andy plans on grabbing 4.8 as its the latest version or is this something that is broken and cant be done atm? [06:17] I'll remember that, gnomefreak [06:17] no [06:17] !forget you are most likely [06:17] I know nothing about you are most likely yet, gnomefreak [06:17] ubotu [06:18] !ubotu [06:18] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [06:20] !forget you are most likely sleeping but with kazehakase you have lates changelog at 4.3 andy plans on grabbing 4.8 as its the latest version or [06:20] I'll forget that, gnomefreak [06:20] Ubulette: you are most likely sleeping but with kazehakase you have lates changelog at 4.3 andy plans on grabbing 4.8 as its the latest version or is this something that is broken and cant be done atm? [06:21] just wondering is all but im off to bed its already 12:30 ish === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@ppp121-44-89-116.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:00] hey [10:10] hi [10:11] ole [10:16] Kazehakse seems to now target webcore [10:17] webcore? [10:18] the webkit core [10:18] its pluggable, right? [10:18] e.g. you can switch engines through configuration? [10:19] i remember that they plan to do that for gecko/konqueror [10:21] yep, but I mean, dev is focusing on webcore, according to changlogs [10:21] so xul made no progress toward 1.9 [10:29] http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/09/opera-adds-animated-png-support/ [10:30] time for ubuntu png guys to move on... [10:30] hmm [10:31] we are in feature freeze :/ [10:31] i think we have to wait till gutsy+1 for libpng [10:31] at least if we don't want to ship a new libapng in universe [10:31] universe should still be open for us ;) [10:32] fortunately, i'll be free of gutsy in a month [10:36] ok, i'm out. See you === janimo [n=jani@89.137.96.27] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [10:43] Ubulette: cu [10:44] are the new nspr and nss packages in PPA needed for xulrunner-1.9 or are the ones in gutsy compatible and sufficient? [10:45] asac: are there plans for getting xulrunner-1.9 in gutsy? [10:47] gnomefreak: you don't have to update the changelog for upload if i already targetted it as "RELEASE" [10:48] janimo: no you need the ones from PPA [10:48] janimo: they should be in [10:48] janimo: try to install firefox-trunk [10:48] it should bring you all [10:49] asac: ok, I actuially need xulrunner-1.9 to build somehting else in my PPA [10:49] asac: and was wondering which sources do I need to copy there since PPAs cannot do build depends from other PPAs [10:49] yet [10:53] does it already work? [10:53] i mean locally? [10:53] otherwise wait till it gets into gutsy [10:53] should be really soon [10:54] janimo: ^^^ [10:54] asac: it does work locally [10:54] asac: that's why I asked if it goes to gutsy [10:54] is it a matter of days? [11:02] yes [11:02] we actually wait for a8 [11:02] if it isn't out in two days i will upload a preview [11:04] ok [11:05] asac: btw I hope you'll find the time to take a look at the patches filed on network-manager-applet to make it Xfce friendly :) [11:09] asac: you could also upload a preview even if a8 is not out so the NEW source processing is not delayed. Unless you can get someone on the archive team to let it through as soon as you upload, it may help uploading earlier [11:13] janimo: yes its scheduled for today === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === janimo [n=jani@89.137.96.27] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] [01:10] asac: you do when you sign it [01:11] otherwise i cant sign it afaik [01:11] doesnt matter much there is something wrong with trunk anyway [01:12] gnomefreak: what was the question? [01:12] asac: about changing the changelog === gnomefreak trying to find out about ffox-trunk anyway [01:13] gnomefreak: he? [01:13] gnomefreak: no ... the idea is you grab from bzr [01:13] then you sponsor [01:13] just use -kgnomefreak@ubuntu.com to sign with your key [01:14] i thought the changelog had to be set to me to sign it [01:14] you don't need to own the changelog in order to sponsor [01:14] no [01:14] sponsoring works as well (like above) [01:14] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -si -kasac@debian.org [01:14] i use if i sponsor a package from someone else [01:14] son of a bitch [01:14] for now its ok ... just remember to do it that way next time [01:14] asac: you guys need to change version numbers for firefox-trunk [01:15] i doubt that [01:15] why? [01:15] no i dont [01:15] irefox-trunk - 3.0a8pre~cvs20070829-0ubuntu1~mt1 [01:15] notice 3.0a8 [01:15] firefox-trunk - 3.0~a8~cvs20070914t1713-0ubuntu1~mt1 [01:15] 3.0~ [01:15] thats why its not being sent to build [01:16] it seems 3.0~a8 is < 3.0a8 [01:17] nothing can be done other than changing the version numbers as it is now it wont build since we cant remove packages yet [01:19] well ... we have to remove them [01:20] or use an epoch [01:20] we cant remove anything atm [01:20] its not a feature yet [01:23] so when was that package uploaded? [01:23] and why did it end up in there at all? [01:23] with that bogus version [01:23] anyway i will ask [01:25] asac: you said it was ready i built and uploaded last night [01:25] which? [01:25] 3.0~a8 [01:25] not 3.0a8pre === gnomefreak is wondering why gnomebaker and nautilus freeze when burning and k3b does [01:26] yes 3.0~ lastnight [01:26] asac: 3.0a8 was our first upload [01:26] before the version changed [01:27] asking if LP admin can remove [01:27] since we cant [01:28] gnomefreak: don't bother i asked already [01:28] lets wait [01:28] me too :) [01:28] < asac> anyway i will ask [01:28] why do you do that? [01:28] where did you ask? is there a PPA channel? [01:28] it just is bugging from multiple sites [01:29] s/sites/sides/ [01:29] no PM [01:29] oh well i asked before you said you did and i didnt see it in #luanchpad [01:29] when? [01:30] i asked at 7:26 its not 7:30 [01:30] 3:21 < asac> anyway i will ask [01:30] s/not/now [01:30] 13:21 < asac> anyway i will ask [01:30] 13:28 < gnomefreak> s/not/now [01:30] so you asked after [01:30] anyway ... nm [01:30] 07:27 < gnomefreak > asking if LP admin can remove [01:30] that is after i asked [01:30] yes thats after [01:30] i asked [01:31] no [01:31] 13:21 < asac> anyway i will ask [01:31] 13:23 < gnomefreak> asac: you said it was ready i built and uploaded last night [01:31] 13:23 < asac> which? [01:31] 13:23 < asac> 3.0~a8 [01:31] 13:23 < asac> not 3.0a8pre [01:31] 13:23 * gnomefreak is wondering why gnomebaker and nautilus freeze when burning and k3b does [01:31] 13:23 < gnomefreak> yes 3.0~ lastnight [01:31] 13:24 < gnomefreak> asac: 3.0a8 was our first upload [01:31] 13:24 < gnomefreak> before the version changed [01:31] 13:24 < gnomefreak> asking if LP admin can remove [01:31] 13:24 is just after i asked [01:31] 13:24 < gnomefreak> since we cant [01:31] 13:26 < asac> gnomefreak: don't bother i asked already [01:31] no [01:31] hey read above [01:32] 13:21 i said "< asac> anyway i will ask" [01:32] then 13:24 < gnomefreak> asking if LP admin can remove [01:32] oh i missed that [01:32] no problem [01:32] just to get it right ;) [01:32] well let me know if you get answer [01:33] it really does seems weird that a kde app doesnt freeze but gnome apps do :( [01:39] :( [01:39] i got upload a newer version [01:48] you got upload a newer version? [01:49] asac: that is the answer i got is to upload newer version i also got change the version [01:49] why did we change the version? [01:57] gnomefreak: lets lot upload it at all [01:57] lets not [01:57] we will rename the package [01:57] asac: it was already uploaded i cant change that [01:58] which? [01:58] 3.0~a8 should not be uploded until we have renamed the package [01:59] if you want to upload anyway, add an epoch to that version [01:59] asac: when you and Ubulette said it was good i uploaded it didnt think of the versioning at that time since it was oked by 2 people [01:59] asac: i uploaded last night i said 30 minutes or so ago [01:59] but that was rejected right? [01:59] thats how its Pending/Removal [01:59] no [02:00] then whats teh problem? [02:00] not rejected until after it was uploaded, as long as versions are not the same it will upload [02:00] asac: its Pending/Removal because its a lower version it was superseeded when it was uploaded [02:00] yeah ... so the upload didn't work [02:00] then leave it alone ;) [02:01] or add an epoch to version [02:01] asac: it is uploaded just cant build [02:01] yeah ... thats de-facto not-uploaded [02:01] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ [02:02] asac: its uploaded just not building but either way same steps would need to be taken make new tarball build package upload everything [02:02] see how it directly goes into the sink ... so the upload was a non-upload ;) [02:02] gnomefreak: i said that we don't need that because we will rename [02:02] if you still want that add an epoch to version and reupload [02:03] no you can change version but either way the ~ needs to be moved/removed so maybe just changing name of tarball build and upload will work but either way the tarball is gonna have to change names [02:03] you don't need to rename tarball for that [02:03] no [02:04] right now the tarball is 3.0~a [02:04] thats not a problem [02:04] that is lower than 3.0a [02:04] add an epoch [02:04] i won't repeat that ;) [02:04] e.g. prefix changelog version with 1: [02:05] but if the changelog is looking to orig to build doesnt it have to match? [02:06] 1:3.0~ would still have to make tarball 1:3.0~ or it wont find the right tarball for changelog no? [02:09] and if that is what you mean to do i dont see that as being sane, i would perfer the verson scheme change so its not something we have to add everytime [02:10] hey all [02:10] well im going to reformat now and see if it doesnt get fixed [02:17] hey bluekuja === asac lunch [02:18] heya alex [02:18] :) [03:17] anyone has /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop as well? [03:17] bluekuja: ^^ ? [03:18] do you have that file? [03:19] asac: checking [03:19] andrea@nightsong:/etc/xdg/autostart$ ls [03:19] evolution-alarm-notify.desktop nm-applet.desktop [03:19] gnome-power-manager.desktop restricted-manager.desktop [03:19] gnome-volume-manager.desktop update-notifier.desktop [03:20] asac: I have it [03:20] :) [03:20] asac: bitstormlite got no makefile.am [03:20] it's not there also in the orig [03:20] let me see if there was on on previous releases [03:21] asac: bope [03:21] *nope [03:21] asac: no makefile.am [03:25] bluekuja: i did it once [03:25] bluekuja: you should have it somewhere [03:25] unless of course there was exactly the same issue with a different package [03:26] asac: same issue [03:26] with another package [03:26] we worked on [03:26] :) [03:26] i doubt it [03:26] which package? [03:26] I'm sure [03:26] prove [03:26] let me see [03:26] let me see [03:26] show me the package ... then its fine ;) [03:26] for now its too much of a coincident [03:27] actually i am sure that you bugged upstream for whatever makefile we did [03:27] maybe you can find mail about that or something [03:27] to give us a clue [03:27] asac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bluekuja/verlihub/debian.source [03:27] 14. By Andrea Veri on 2007-06-08 [03:27] added Makefile.am into ./share, it was dropped erroneously by upstream [03:27] that's it [03:28] great ;) [03:28] same issue [03:28] lol [03:28] the doubt disappears ;) [03:28] upstreams are on crack apparently [03:28] :) [03:28] yup [03:28] well .. we definitly need to write the Makefile.am then i guess [03:29] asac: oh great! writing makefiles is my passion :D [03:29] I'm jk of course [03:30] asac: I have upstream on msn [03:30] I can ask him why [03:31] asac: no? [03:32] well ... try to learn Makefile.am [03:32] ;) [03:32] lol [03:32] ok [03:32] it often improves with a bit of a distance [03:32] so try for an hour or so ;) [03:33] then go other ways and at least next time you will get it ;) [03:43] asac: using autotools [03:43] will make the diff bigger? [03:56] probably [03:56] if there is a patch system you can carry the autotools update in a separate patch as well [03:56] otherwise try to get the fix upstream asap :) [03:57] talking with him atm [03:57] to see what's going on === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === fuoco [n=gad@87.69.68.130.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac sport === cwong1 [i=chatzill@nat/intel/x-810843fed1d12a0f] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Aondo [i=stian@85.19.195.72] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Chipzz [i=chipzz@safehex.be] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlexLatchford_ [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:55] yop [07:57] - xulrunner-1.9-dbgsym_1.9~a8~cvs20070918t0514+bbot-1_i386.ddeb: ok (49970924 bytes) [07:57] asac, it's huge :) [07:57] -rw-r--r-- root/root 124623319 2007-09-18 14:59 ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/libxul.so [07:58] - xulrunner-1.9-dev-dbgsym_1.9~a8~cvs20070918t0514+bbot-1_i386.ddeb: ok (48759256 bytes) [07:58] hmm [07:58] -rw-r--r-- root/root 124623319 2007-09-18 15:00 ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9a8pre/sdk/lib/libxul.so [07:58] we should not ship that twice... === mertiki [n=zxz@modemcable023.30-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:09] fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! === gnomefreak is pissed now [09:10] hmmm wonders if downgrading dpkg would work [09:10] gnomefreak, what's happening ? [09:10] critical bug in dpkg i get during upgrade [09:10] gutsy ? [09:10] so now im unstable all over the placve [09:11] place [09:11] yes === gnomefreak is missing half the packages due to this bug [09:11] usually, it's fixable [09:11] what bug is this ? [09:12] I hope you didnt accept blindly a huge removal [09:12] it looks like ubuntu 14 fixes it [09:12] but i dont have ubuntu14 yet [09:13] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2147578 2007-08-24 19:03 /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu10_i386.deb [09:13] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2147646 2007-08-29 17:04 /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11_i386.deb [09:13] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2147780 2007-09-06 19:04 /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu12_i386.deb [09:13] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2174464 2007-09-18 19:31 /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu14_i386.deb [09:13] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2146934 2007-08-21 22:04 /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu9_i386.deb [09:13] I still have those [09:13] i have the right one now [09:13] had to wget it [09:14] since dpkg is all kinds of broken it seems [09:14] looks to be working [09:16] yay now i can have a stable/unstable system instead of unstable as hell [09:16] lol === gnomefreak needs to be away from pc for a bit before i throw it through the wall === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === mertiki [n=zxz@modemcable023.30-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:34] hello asac, are-you here? [09:34] hi mertiki [09:34] hi bluekuja :) [09:34] questions about sunbird locales? [09:34] about lightning-extension-locales [09:34] oh nvm then [09:34] :) [09:34] nvm? [09:35] nevermind [09:35] hh ok :) [09:35] you need asac then [09:35] :) [09:35] is-there something to fix in sunbird-locale or it's all ok? [09:35] everything ok, already uploaded [09:35] check REVU [09:35] :) [09:36] Great! I'm proud, it's my very first package =) [09:36] mertiki, I uploaded it some days ago [09:36] :) [09:37] should-it already be in the universe repositories? [09:37] mertiki, it depends from archive admins [09:37] it's a new package [09:37] so it need approval from them [09:37] check queue to see current state [09:37] ah ok, hey thanks for your work on this too! [09:37] mertiki, np :) [09:38] asac gave me some help around lightning-extension-locales and I created a package for this too, so now all mozilla calendar applications will have a lot on languages [09:39] mertiki, well, if you get another exception and asac tells me that your package is ok [09:39] I gonna upload it too [09:40] It's in works, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-sunbird/+bug/140598 [09:40] Launchpad bug 140598 in lightning-sunbird "lightning-extension doesn't have language packs" [Undecided,Incomplete] [09:40] mertiki, good [09:41] mertiki, if he wants me to check that [09:41] I gonna take care of it [09:41] it depends from him, you know === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:41] of course :) [09:42] and I'm happy to work with comments of others [09:42] mertiki, :) [09:42] is this asac? :P [09:42] mertiki, yes he is [09:42] maybe he's lagging a bit [09:42] ha, ok it doesn't mean that he's here [09:43] mertiki, he gonna be here soon I guess [09:43] he's alwais around [09:43] ah great! [09:43] mertiki, first time here? [09:44] so I'll prefer waiting then send him a email [09:44] mertiki, yes, definitely [09:44] bluekuja : what do mean? [09:44] mertiki, with what? [09:45] bluekuja : when you say first time here, do you mean on that channel? [09:45] yup [09:45] bluekuja : No, but it's just the second time :) [09:45] oh cool [09:45] :) [09:46] bluekuja : I just know Linux Ubuntu since 2 years and I started working to improve Ubuntu since only 6 months, I still have a lot to learn, but I love that [09:46] mertiki, your lp page? [09:46] bluekuja : I found that building language pack was a very interesting way to learn basic packaging [09:46] https://edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/ [09:46] mertiki, https://edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/+packages [09:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~saivann [09:47] yeah it's it [09:47] :) [09:48] and I' frency so sorry if sometimes I can do weird sentences, you know :P [09:48] french* [09:48] dont worry [09:48] not a problem for me [09:49] hehe, I learn both packaging and english :P love to learn [09:49] :D [09:49] how old are you? [09:50] only 19, and you? [09:50] 18 :) [09:50] really?? [09:50] yup [09:50] wow, that's great :P [09:50] :) [09:51] I'm younger than you then [09:51] I always think that I'm the younger, but seems that I'm far from being the one [09:51] the only one* [09:51] yep :P [09:51] hehe, I know someone who is even 14 [09:52] :P [09:52] haha, that's cool! [09:52] that does some translations on ubuntu [09:52] and stuff like that [09:52] I know that if I would have know Ubuntu when I was 14, I would worked on this all my days and all my nights [09:53] lol [09:53] mertiki, live your life too [09:53] loll, and that's what I do now anyway :P [09:53] mertiki, I usually work something like 2 hours per day [09:53] mertiki, that's enough I guess [09:54] bluekuja : at your job or in Ubuntu ? [09:54] maybe sometimes you can go to 3-4 hours [09:54] mertiki, ubuntu [09:54] :9 [09:54] :) [09:54] mertiki, I think two hours a day is a great contribution [09:54] bluekuja : but that's very great! In my case, I'll work very hard on something like my packages now, and stop working for I while when I'll get some other projects [09:55] so if you stay 24/7 is crazy! :) [09:55] haha, yes you're right :D [09:55] :) [09:56] bluekuja : I'm passinate by computers and what they can give to human anyway, my job is to help people with their computers, I give quality technical services in Qubec for people, so Ubuntu is for me great promises. [09:57] mertiki, you work already? [09:57] mertiki, not uni? [09:57] bluekuja : www.leservicetechnique.com is my website, and I have very satisfied customers [09:58]