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=== Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Fri Sep 14 10:40:45 2007
tazgodxso, anyone use a HD card?04:49
tgm4883_laptopyep04:49
tgm4883_laptopi just have all the answers for you tonight04:49
CBiLLanyone here use UIRT USB IR?>04:49
tazgodxlol04:50
CBiLLtgm4883_laptop : you do? ok what the meaning of life?04:50
tazgodxdo you have to get a HD antenna? or can you use a STB?04:50
tazgodxCBiLL: 4204:50
CBiLLwow what I am now04:50
CBiLLcool04:50
CBiLLthanks!04:50
tazgodx:)04:50
tgm4883_laptopWell, the meaning of life is #$*(@(*@&%*%@@)$>......BUFFER OVERFLOW ERROR04:51
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, where do you live?04:51
tazgodxNW burbs of chicago04:51
tgm4883_laptopok04:51
tgm4883_laptopthen you can stream via firewire if you want04:52
tazgodxfirewire from my STB?04:52
tgm4883_laptopthere are a couple options for you04:52
tgm4883_laptopyes04:52
tazgodxso i don't need a HD TV tuner?04:52
tgm4883_laptopnope04:53
tazgodxwow04:53
tgm4883_laptopalthough there are a few problems with doing it, most notably that if the channels are broadcast poorly, then it wont record that channel04:54
tgm4883_laptopbut it does allow you to get some other channels that would be otherwise unavailable to just a regular HD card (ie the pcHDTV 5500)04:54
tgm4883_laptopI stream over firewire and have a pcHDTV 550004:54
tazgodxyeah, i was looking into the pcHDTV 550004:54
tgm4883_laptopdont get it04:55
tgm4883_laptop:)04:55
tazgodxno?04:55
tgm4883_laptopactually, i love my 5500, but if I had to do it again, I would get the HDHomerun for $30 more as it has 2 HD tuners04:55
tgm4883_laptopthe 5500 works great, I would just prefer the 2nd HD tuner04:56
tazgodxhmmm, and do i just plug those straight into the wall jack? or do i need an antenna for each one of the tuners?04:56
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tgm4883_laptopwho is your cable provider?04:56
tazgodxcomcast04:56
tgm4883_laptopsweet04:56
dooderalright. quesiton that I'm sure has been answered but I can't find it. What are people doing without zap2it?04:57
tgm4883_laptopwell comcast in my area broadcasts the local HD channels over the wire (whether I had the HD channels or not)04:57
tgm4883_laptopdooder, schedules direct04:57
tgm4883_laptop!schedulesdirect04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about schedulesdirect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:57
tgm4883_laptoparg, stupid ubotu04:57
tgm4883_laptopschedules direct offers the channel lineups for $15/6 months04:58
doodertgm4883_laptop : is that in the package or will I need a custom build?04:58
tgm4883_laptopyou will have to upgrade to mythtv .20.2, which is in the feisty-updates repo, the edgy-updates repo, gutsy universe repo, and a 3rd party dapper repo04:59
tgm4883_laptopif you are using breezy i can't help you04:59
doodercool04:59
dooderI'm using knoppmyth right now04:59
dooderso I think I have to redo my setup this weekend04:59
tgm4883_laptopah05:00
tazgodxok here is a weird question, if i record an HD program, can i stream to a SDTV frontend?05:00
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, i believe it would just have the bars at the top and bottom, but it should work fine05:00
tgm4883_laptopproviding the computer can handle it05:01
tgm4883_laptopdooder, are you planning on using feisty or gutsy, (or mythbuntu)?05:01
tazgodxall the processor power is on the backend when playing HD right?05:01
tgm4883_laptopno05:01
tgm4883_laptopin fact05:01
tgm4883_laptoprecording HD takes almost no extra power05:02
tgm4883_laptopother than writing extra data05:02
tazgodxhmmm05:02
tgm4883_laptopwhat specs?05:02
tazgodxwell my P4 can handle HD im pretty sure05:02
CBiLLwell that sucks05:02
tgm4883_laptopprocessor speeD?05:02
tgm4883_laptopand video card?05:03
tazgodxim ont 100% on the specs, im actually useing my sisters, and my dads old computers for my mythtv setups :)05:03
CBiLLif you set up a lirc with no conf .. mode2 should work to test it right?05:03
tgm4883_laptopnot sure CBILL05:03
CBiLLhrmmm05:03
tazgodxis there a command to type in terminal to find processor speed and vid card?05:03
CBiLLhow does one test lirc first to see if ir reciever is working?05:03
tgm4883_laptopcat /proc/cpuinfo05:04
tgm4883_laptopand lspci05:04
tgm4883_laptopand put that in05:04
tgm4883_laptop!pastebin05:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:04
tazgodxGeForce FX 520005:05
tazgodxand 1.8Ghz P405:05
tgm4883_laptophave you played HD on it before?05:05
tazgodxcan't use paste bin, thats my other computer that isn't on the net yet05:05
tgm4883_laptopah05:06
tazgodxnope, was hoping to test it out05:06
tgm4883_laptopFYI, wireless G isn't fast enough for HD05:06
tgm4883_laptopand im not sure that computer is either05:06
tazgodxoh, maybe i won't do HD than :(05:07
tgm4883_laptopI could almost* do HD with an athlon XP 2200+ and a geforce 5500 with XvMC activated05:07
tazgodxeverytime i activated XvMC my video would just go out...i don't use that option anymore05:08
tgm4883_laptopdid you edit the necessary file?05:09
tazgodxi need to find anohter TV tuner tho. one jsut isn't enough05:09
tazgodxi believe so....but not sure05:09
tgm4883_laptopwhat do you have now?05:10
tazgodxPVR-35005:10
tgm4883_laptopah05:10
tgm4883_laptopi like my pvr-15005:10
tgm4883_laptopgood card05:10
tazgodxyeah, i was thinking about a few 150's05:10
tgm4883_laptopor a pvr-50005:10
tazgodxthe only thing the 350 had that i wanted was the remote :)05:10
tgm4883_laptop2 pvr-150's in one05:10
tazgodxonly need one of them05:10
tazgodxmaybe ill look into the 50005:11
tgm4883_laptopdon't they all come with the same remote?05:11
tazgodxi don't think the 150 comes with a remote05:11
tgm4883_laptopI use the MCEUSB2 remote and love it05:11
tgm4883_laptopthe 150 does come with a remote05:11
tgm4883_laptopthere is also a MCE model of the hauppauge line and I don't think they come with remotes05:12
tazgodxhmm, maybe i was mistaken05:12
tgm4883_laptopand you could also use a serial ir receiver and any remote05:12
tazgodxis the best way to plug all these tuners in splitters?05:12
tazgodxi have a serial IR blaster, so i can attempt to use my STB....i have yet to get that working05:13
tgm4883_laptopI think so, you may need a booster depending on how many splits and the qualilty of the signal05:13
tgm4883_laptopanother benefit of firewire.  Changes channels on the STB over firewire05:14
tazgodxdoes the firewire only work with HD? or can i watch any channel with that?05:14
tgm4883_laptopany channel05:14
tgm4883_laptopalthough im not a fan of analog over firewire05:15
tazgodxhaha, well you said my PC can't handle HD. so im not gonna try that...05:15
tazgodxthere is a guy on ebay selling a PVR-500 buy it now for $11005:16
tgm4883_laptopheh, im not sure what those cost.  I haven't bought any tuners in a while05:16
tazgodxthey are going for 120-200 from other people05:17
tazgodxtigerdirect has it for 15005:18
tgm4883_laptop163 with MCE remote http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202151598&SearchEngine=PriceGrabber&SearchTerm=202151598&Type=PE&Category=Comp&dcaid=1589005:19
tgm4883_laptop125 without05:19
tazgodxi see 139 without05:20
CBiLLbe warn samsung tuner quaity isn't that great on pvr 50005:21
CBiLLphillips are better05:21
tgm4883_laptophttp://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=3625260&CartID=done&nextloc=05:21
tazgodxis the 1600 good?05:22
tazgodxhttp://www.buy.com/prod/hauppauge-wintv-hvr-1600-hybrid-video-recorder-pci-atsc/q/loc/101/204026199.html05:22
tgm4883_laptopeh, i dont know if the 1600 has linux support yet05:22
tazgodxdang, for $90 i would buy that jsut for my analog05:23
tazgodxlol05:23
tgm4883_laptopgoogle mythtv hvr-1600 and find out :)05:23
tazgodxnope, no linux support yet05:30
tazgodxguess im getting hte PVR-500 sometime soon05:33
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MythbuntuGuest37my video devices don't show up in /dev. any thoughts?05:36
tgm4883_laptopwhat tuners?05:36
MythbuntuGuest37hauppauge 50005:36
tgm4883_laptopubuntu, mythbuntu, feisty, gutsy?05:37
MythbuntuGuest37mythbuntu, freshly installed05:37
tgm4883_laptophmm, strange05:38
tgm4883_laptopdoes lspci show the card?05:38
MythbuntuGuest37at first I thought it was a perms issue, but when I tried chmod the files just weren't there05:38
MythbuntuGuest37the ivtv modules are loaded05:38
tgm4883_laptopdoes dmesg give you any indicators?05:38
MythbuntuGuest37I always forget to dmesg, let me check05:39
MythbuntuGuest37error initializing firmware05:39
MythbuntuGuest37I guess I should fix that05:40
tgm4883_laptopdid you md5sum the iso and verify the cd before install?05:40
tazgodxanyone know of a CATV splitter and booster in one?05:40
MythbuntuGuest37no, I guess I could do that now05:40
MythbuntuGuest37it would give me some indication05:41
tgm4883_laptoptazgodx, yea, there are lots05:41
tgm4883_laptopcheck radioshack05:41
tazgodxill go there sometime soon then05:41
tazgodxhas anyone tried to set up an LVM on gutsy?05:49
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MythbuntuGuest37sorry, that took a little while.05:54
MythbuntuGuest37disc is fine05:55
MythbuntuGuest37I know there are some steps you sometimes need to take with firmware for these decoders05:56
MythbuntuGuest37I'll see if I can find some docs05:56
MythbuntuGuest37thanks for your help, tgm05:56
tgm4883_laptopyea but not the pvr-50005:56
tgm4883_laptopthat should be in the kernel05:56
tgm4883_laptopdid you do a apt-get update05:57
tgm4883_laptopand apt-get upgrade05:57
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MythbuntuGuest23hello06:05
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tgm4883_laptophi06:05
MythbuntuGuest37I avoided the upgrade because it was going to be 188 pkgs06:06
redsixhow can you use the install disc, but grab the latest packages for install instead of having to update afwrwards?06:06
MythbuntuGuest37is there a way to test for closer, faster mirrors?06:06
tgm4883_laptopwhat mirror are you using?06:06
MythbuntuGuest37mainly umn.edu06:07
tgm4883_laptopwhere do you live?06:07
MythbuntuGuest37I'm using gutsy, so maybe that's my only option06:07
MythbuntuGuest37Calgary, AB Canada06:08
tgm4883_laptopis there a mirror that you usually use?06:08
MythbuntuGuest37I'll know it when I see it06:09
tgm4883_laptopheh06:09
tgm4883_laptopthat would sort of be the problem06:09
tgm4883_laptopas i can't tell you which one to put in06:09
tgm4883_laptopunless it's ca.archives.ubuntu.com06:09
MythbuntuGuest37I can still run synaptic in mythbuntu, no?06:14
tgm4883_laptopyes06:14
MythbuntuGuest37well, I went and started it as it was06:14
MythbuntuGuest37seems to be running fairly quickly06:14
MythbuntuGuest37I'll see if I can find a faster one later06:14
MythbuntuGuest37well that was faster than I expected06:20
MythbuntuGuest37<param name="nick" value="itzac">06:22
MythbuntuGuest37k, that's not how that works06:22
tgm4883_laptopits /nick nick06:23
tgm4883_laptopoh well06:23
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tgm4883_laptopits /nick nick06:23
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itzacthanks06:24
Aval0nhow can you view your edid info from an edid.bin file?06:27
Aval0nI used nvidia-settings to d/l it06:27
Aval0nanyone know?06:27
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itzacmight /proc be a better place to go looking for that info?06:28
Aval0nitzac you talkin to me?06:28
itzacyes06:28
Aval0nyou think it will have the correct info there?06:29
Aval0nso far i've had 0 success getting my PDP to display anything over 1280x72006:29
Aval0nvia hdmi06:29
itzacif it's there it should be correct06:29
Aval0nI don't see anything there that looks like display info06:29
itzacunfortunately it won't be that easy06:30
Aval0n=/06:30
itzacnvidia card?06:30
Aval0nyes06:31
Aval0n7300gs w HDMI06:31
itzactry /proc/driver/nvidia06:31
itzacI'm still hunting for a file that might have your info06:31
Aval0nnothing there but cards06:32
Aval0nwith a 006:32
itzacno registry file?06:33
Aval0nyes06:33
Aval0nthere is06:33
Aval0nbut no useful info inside06:33
Aval0nthnx for the help btw.06:33
itzacnp, unfortunately that's pretty much all I got06:34
Aval0nhaha06:34
Aval0nthanks anyway06:34
Aval0nI just need to get a working 1080i modeline06:34
itzacI see06:35
itzacthat sounds like a pretty fancy TV06:35
Aval0nits a samsung plasma06:36
Aval0nI like it06:36
Aval0nvery happy06:36
Aval0nnot 1080p though06:36
Aval0n:)06:36
Aval0nanyone know if the fiesty proposed .20.2 ubuntu package was compiled with XvMC support?06:40
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itzacmaybe I'll just go back to feisty and use the proposed packages06:59
CBiLLI been having bad flickering problem in my mythtv so I played back /dev/video0 to mplayer and same thing07:01
CBiLLany idea what may be causing it?07:01
itzacnvidia driver?07:01
CBiLLdon't think it the graphic07:02
itzacare you using cable or dvb or something else?07:03
CBiLLpvr50007:03
itzacdid you pick the right freq table?07:03
CBiLLfreq table?07:03
itzacduring myth-setup, you have to choose a fequency table07:04
CBiLLok07:04
CBiLLchecking07:04
CBiLLbut this flickering shows up in mplayer07:04
CBiLLus-cable07:05
itzacthat's probably right07:05
CBiLLhrmmm I had it on us-bcast07:05
CBiLLtrying us-cable now07:05
itzacthat would do it07:05
itzacbcast is for over-the-air07:05
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CBiLLI am getting the show from my directv box via componet cable07:06
CBiLLok trying it us-cable now07:06
itzaccomposite, you mean?07:06
CBiLLoh yeah07:06
CBiLLsorry07:06
CBiLLyour right07:06
CBiLLbrain fart!07:07
CBiLLflicker still there07:07
redsixhi, i am having problems with the VNC part of mythbuntu, anyone else have problems in this area07:07
itzacdoes your directTV box have an S-video out?07:07
CBiLLdamn it haven't gone away07:07
itzacthe other thing I can think of is to check the flicker-filter setting in nvidia-settings07:09
itzacmake sure it's set to 507:09
redsixWhat's CBill trying to do?07:09
itzacor whatever the max is07:09
CBiLLstop the flickering07:10
itzaceliminate flicker07:10
redsixoh07:10
CBiLLit comes and goes07:10
redsixintel or amd box?07:10
itzacit could be noise in your composite cable07:10
CBiLLintel07:10
redsixo07:10
redsixi use amd with directv box...07:11
redsixwhat DirecTV box you use?07:11
CBiLLsmall silver one07:11
redsixd11 probably07:11
CBiLLblue led for power switch07:11
Aval0nanyone know if the fiesty proposed .20.2 ubuntu package was compiled with XvMC support?07:11
CBiLLpvr500 for tuner card07:12
itzacI don't see why it wouldn't be07:12
Aval0ncbill other than your flickering hows your quality?07:12
redsixusiong svideo for capture?07:12
CBiLLquality is good07:12
Aval0nI have a pvr500 and looks kinda crappy on some chans07:12
CBiLLyes svideo out from Nvidia 680007:12
Aval0nyou got phillips tuners on it or samsung?07:12
CBiLLnot using tuner07:12
CBiLLphillips 8-)07:12
Aval0nme too07:13
CBiLLbut not using tuner07:13
Aval0nahh07:13
CBiLLcomposite07:13
CBiLLfound tv flicker filter07:13
CBiLLit t 127 now07:13
itzacturn it all the way up07:13
CBiLL255 max07:13
CBiLLtrying it at 255 then07:14
redsixwhat resolution are you sending to the TV?07:14
CBiLLcan't remember but it flickering on monitor too07:15
CBiLLflickering still07:15
CBiLLthing is07:15
CBiLLI don't think it the resolution07:15
redsixis it refresh rate?07:15
CBiLLmplayer /dev/video0 is showing the same flickering in mplayer07:15
redsixoh07:15
CBiLLand it say video buffer overun problem07:16
redsixi would try s-video capture fromt the STB instead of composite07:16
CBiLLhrmm07:16
CBiLLok let me swap cable around07:17
CBiLLno can't do it07:17
CBiLLforgot I dont have spare s video cuz my video card only have s video out07:17
CBiLLand using it07:17
redsixk07:17
CBiLLwell I can check flickering on the computer monitor07:17
CBiLLbrb07:17
CBiLLswapping cable07:17
itzactgm, the firmware didn't get copied to the right folder07:20
itzacdownloaded latest firmware and copied there, ivtv loaded properly07:20
CBiLLswapped07:21
redsixanyone know of a card that captures component input?07:21
CBiLLpvr50007:21
CBiLLwhich I am using now =P07:21
redsixyou mean composite right?07:22
CBiLLoh brain fart!07:22
CBiLLlol yeah07:22
CBiLLhrmmm can't caputre s video07:22
CBiLLbrb07:22
redsixwill have to run mythtv-setup again to select the svideo source07:23
CBiLLI did07:23
CBiLLto svideo07:23
CBiLLdo I have to set directv to use it out?07:23
CBiLLor it already should have video out on svideo?07:23
CBiLLlet me check from box to tv07:23
redsixthe directv box should already send a signal out on the svideo port07:25
CBiLLyeah it is07:25
CBiLLchecking my setting07:25
redsixthen change #2 option in mythtv-setup i believe it is to set the svideo on the card for capture07:26
CBiLLI did hrmm07:26
redsixand no video?07:27
CBiLLdo I have to run mythfilldatabase again?07:27
CBiLLjust want to get video not worrying about the EPG07:27
redsixshouldn'thave to07:27
CBiLLok checking my cables07:27
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CBiLLthere07:29
CBiLLok connect via svideo now07:29
CBiLLno flickers so far07:30
redsixcool07:31
CBiLLshit07:31
CBiLLit flickered07:31
redsixnot cool07:31
redsixare you all up to date on the packages?07:31
CBiLLyes07:32
CBiLLbut right now I reformatted and put on MythDora about an hour ago07:32
CBiLLto see if it wasn't Mythbuntu07:32
CBiLLit wasn't07:32
CBiLLsame thing in MythDora07:32
redsixoh... must be ivtv then07:32
CBiLLit only flickers on bright scences or fast action shows07:33
CBiLLat the end of the movie07:33
CBiLLwhen credit are rolling07:33
CBiLLit flickers like hell07:33
redsixdunno man i'm lost now07:34
CBiLLis ok07:34
CBiLLI can always go back to SageTV =P07:34
redsixor  gbpvr07:35
CBiLLIll have to google on that07:35
redsixits not bad for free07:35
CBiLLbut it use the same ivtv driver right?07:35
redsixno, its windows based07:36
CBiLLah ok07:36
tazgodxwell, i have found it is a problem with gusty and my wireless card. this won't be fun...07:36
CBiLLwonder if it the 20 feet cable07:36
CBiLLdoing it07:36
redsixdo you have flicker in windows?07:36
CBiLLno07:36
CBiLLno flickers in windows07:36
redsixk07:37
redsixhow you change channels on your STB?07:37
CBiLLhaven't be able to yet with MythTV07:37
CBiLLbut on SageTV I use UIRT-USB07:37
tgm4883_laptopAval0n, yes it is07:37
CBiLLaimed at the STB07:37
redsixyour stb has the USB port?07:37
CBiLLno07:37
redsixon the back?07:38
CBiLLit tranmist IR07:38
CBiLLyes it have USB on back07:38
CBiLLcan that be use with mythtv?07:38
CBiLLjust wondering07:38
tgm4883_laptopno07:38
redsixWhat box you have?07:38
tgm4883_laptopmost likely it is not activated07:38
CBiLLlet me look07:38
redsixyes it can07:38
redsixi change with the USB port on the back of my h20-10007:39
Aval0nanyone know why xvmc would make the OSD shitty and grey07:39
Aval0n:)07:39
CBiLLit does not say on box07:39
redsixflip the door open on the front07:39
CBiLLok07:39
tgm4883_laptopAval0n, cause that is what it does :)07:40
redsixshould say MFR or MFG07:40
CBiLLD1107:40
redsixyup you can change with USB on D1107:40
CBiLLnice on MythTV?07:40
redsixyes07:40
Aval0ntgm it's supposed to make the osd look grey?!07:40
CBiLLok brb going to get a shorter svideo cable07:40
Aval0nwhy the heck would it purposly do that?07:41
redsixhttp://www.patersontech.com/products/UsbTvTranslator.aspx07:41
tgm4883_laptopAval0n, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty#head-81c5ddee6432b0f30137b63a25595a9a927a746107:41
tazgodxanyone know how to set up a wireless card for gusty?07:41
tgm4883_laptopFor all cards, go to Utilities/Setup in the frontend. Choose Setup and then TV Settings and then Playback. Change the Preferred MPEG2 Decoder to be Standard XvMC. Restart your frontend app to ensure that /etc/X11/XvMCConfig is sourced and attempt to play back a file. You will notice the grey OSD rather then the normal color OSD.07:41
redsixCBill, my link is for the TV translator you can use it to change channels on the D11 from mythtv07:42
Aval0ntgm I did all that07:42
redsixit is a serial to usb connector07:42
tgm4883_laptopnotice the last sentance07:42
redsixand you need to get the directv.pl channel changing script (google it)07:43
Aval0nwhat the heck07:43
redsixsave the script down, make it executable and then change the script to reflect "box type" of D1107:44
Aval0nso there is no way of fixing the OSD color?07:44
CBiLLtesting07:44
redsixand set the channel changing script in mythtv-setup to the script07:44
CBiLLgood I didn't disconnect myself07:44
CBiLLtripped over my router lol07:44
Aval0ni just changed the xvmc driver to the nvidia one07:45
tgm4883_laptopAval0n http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/XvMC#Greyscale_OSD_.28NVidia_4_.26_5.2907:45
Aval0nwith the default I still got color OSD07:45
CBiLLthanks for link .. saving it07:45
Aval0nwell I have a 730007:45
Aval0nso I'm sol I guess eh?07:45
CBiLLeasy project07:45
tgm4883_laptopyou could always ask over in #mythtv-users07:45
redsixI wished there was a way to capture component video or a transcoder from component to hd coax07:45
CBiLLI even got that adapter .. I am a tinker man and tinker lot of stuffs07:46
redsixcool07:46
CBiLLnope07:46
tgm4883_laptopredsix, component capture cards are too expensive07:46
CBiLL6 feet s-video still flickers07:46
redsixi knows07:46
Aval0nthanks tgm07:46
redsixtgm, i capture s-video 720x480, not bad, but still not hd...07:47
tgm4883_laptopagreed, that is nice, but only dvd spec07:47
CBiLLgoing to try second 2 video on the card .. I hope that doesn't fix it cuz then I got a bad card07:47
redsixtgm, you have cable or a dishh service?07:48
tgm4883_laptopcable07:48
redsixUS?07:48
tgm4883_laptopyep07:48
redsixwhat area07:48
tgm4883_laptopOregon07:48
redsixlol, other side of the nation07:48
tgm4883_laptopyep07:49
Aval0ntgm if I use libXvMC.so.107:49
Aval0ninstead of the nvidia one it's color07:49
Aval0nodly07:49
Aval0n=/07:49
CBiLLwhite screen on second s-video hrmmp07:49
redsixyour pvr500 bad?07:51
CBiLLi don't know07:51
CBiLLbetter not be07:51
CBiLLhrmmm07:54
CBiLLivtv will detect both on pvr500?07:54
CBiLLnot sure if I am setting up the second slot correctly07:56
CBiLLany1 here using PVR500?07:58
CBiLLwow got quiet all suddenly lol07:58
redsixsorry, i need to go, i'll be on tomorrow'08:00
tgm4883_laptopsuperm1, you around?08:18
superm1tgm4883_laptop, i just got back08:18
tgm4883_laptopi've been playing around trying to fix my screen blanking issue08:19
superm1and?08:19
tgm4883_laptopwell no progress, but maybe something08:19
tgm4883_laptopxset s off do something?08:20
tgm4883_laptopshouldn't ^08:20
tgm4883_laptopi've removed dbms settings from my xorg.conf08:21
superm1dpms you mean08:22
tgm4883_laptopheh08:22
tgm4883_laptopyea, dpms08:22
tgm4883_laptopbut when i do xset on my mythbox i get this08:22
superm1well you can check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out status on stuff like that too08:22
superm1whether its being enabled08:23
tgm4883_laptopthomas@myrtle:/etc/acpi$ /usr/bin/xset s noblank08:23
tgm4883_laptop/usr/bin/xset:  unable to open display ""08:23
superm1as well as xset q08:23
tgm4883_laptopah08:23
superm1you can't do that via ssh08:23
tgm4883_laptopoh08:23
tgm4883_laptopheh08:23
superm1unless you export DISPLAY=localhost:008:23
tgm4883_laptopwell that would explain that08:23
CBiLLhey08:23
CBiLLthis is exactly the same problem I am having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=337491808:23
CBiLLthose flickerings08:24
superm1that is a bad example picture because you can't capture an entire frame since its interlaced08:24
CBiLLit the black lines I am expereincing08:25
CBiLLand the flickering on fast action movies08:25
CBiLLor scrolling credits a the end of the movie08:25
superm1well the best i can offer is recommending you to mess out with deinterlacing filters08:26
CBiLLsuperm1 : Mythtv-setup should be showing 2 capture unit #1 and Unit #2 if pvr 500 was installed?08:26
superm1kernel and bobdeint are the way to go08:26
superm1yeah08:26
CBiLLyeah I am only showing 108:26
CBiLLjust unit #108:26
CBiLLso something is not right then08:26
CBiLLmodprobe show both08:27
CBiLLstrange08:27
superm1well do you have a /dev/video0 and /dev/video1?08:27
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CBiLLno08:27
CBiLLlet me see08:27
CBiLLyes I do08:28
TazgodXsoo, can anyone help me real fast with my wireless card? i found instructions to get it to work under gusty, but i don't understand what this one part means08:28
CBiLLok08:28
superm1than your device is working fine08:28
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superm1you just need to add two devices in myth08:28
CBiLLsorry to bother you08:28
CBiLL=P08:28
superm1TazgodX, ?08:29
TazgodXhttp://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Ubuntu08:29
TazgodXthats a linux driver for my wierless card08:29
TazgodXbut under gusty it says i have to build it and apply a patch08:30
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TazgodXwhen i do that line for the patch, it tels me "patch: **** Can't open patch file acx100_new_kernels.patch : No such file or directory"08:30
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mactenchiis 0.20.2 still not on us.archive.ubuntu.com, or do i have a misconfiguration of some kind?08:31
tgm4883_laptopmactenchi, do you have feisty-updates activated?08:32
superm1TazgodX, um the acx modules is shipped08:32
superm1with ubuntu gutsy08:32
tgm4883_laptopor edgy-updates?08:32
superm1that page isn't accurate08:32
superm1supermario@portablemario:/lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic$ find ./ -name acx*08:32
superm1./ubuntu/wireless/acx08:32
superm1./ubuntu/wireless/acx/acx.ko08:32
mactenchiwhen i do apt-get update, i see feisty-updates08:33
superm1mactenchi, you need to make sure that you have feisty-updates or edgy-updates activated for universe and multiverse also08:33
TazgodXwell then why isn't my wireless card found? this is getting annoying08:33
superm1not just main08:33
CBiLLsame flickering .. I been messing with interlace all day long08:33
superm1TazgodX, can you modprobe the acx driver?08:34
superm1and see what happens?08:34
CBiLLsuperm1 : no matter what interlace setting i use .. pictures get all distorted and flickers a lot08:35
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CBiLLpeople head get cut in half08:35
TazgodXsuperm1: you want me to "sudo modprobe acx"?08:36
CBiLLlook like if v sync goes out on old tv08:36
superm1yeah TazgodX08:36
TazgodXFATAL: Error inserting acx (/lib/modules/2.6.22-10-generic/ubuntu/wireless/acx/acx.ko): Invalid argument08:36
superm1CBiLL, i don't know what more help we can be in here, you might need to bring this discussion to the v4l folks08:36
superm1on their mailing list or irc room08:36
mactenchiah.08:36
superm1TazgodX, check dmesg08:36
superm1for info why08:36
mactenchii should have main restricted universe multiverse, i guess?08:36
superm1yeah08:37
MythbuntuGuest75Hi all.  Just installing 7.10 alpha 4 and installer hangs when I say YES to install Proprietary Video drivers.  Can anybody offer suggestions on what's going on?08:37
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest75, you have to do that after installation08:37
tgm4883_laptopnot during install08:37
TazgodXwhat do you want me to try now superm1?08:38
MythbuntuGuest75... even though it says that video out will be disabled?08:38
superm1TazgodX, look at dmesg08:38
tgm4883_laptop!137167 | MythbuntuGuest7508:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 137167 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:38
superm1TazgodX, the last few lines will explain why it couldn't load it08:38
tgm4883_laptop!bug 137167 | MythbuntuGuest7508:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13716708:38
superm1bug 137167 | MythbuntuGuest7508:38
superm1tgm4883_laptop, beat me and did it right :)08:39
CBiLLMythbuntuGuest75 : reinstall and skip that part08:39
MythbuntuGuest75Great .. that was a nice quick answer :)  Cool.08:39
CBiLLnm08:39
CBiLLI am slow08:39
TazgodXwhats dmesg? :)08:39
superm1TazgodX, a command08:39
MythbuntuGuest75Is there a command to run afterwards that does install the drivers?08:39
superm1in a terminal just type it like that: 'dmesg'08:39
superm1MythbuntuGuest75, yes its available within the control centre08:39
TazgodXit says [ 4247.729813]  APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) a lot08:39
CBiLLMythbuntuGuest75 : no just go to the control centre08:39
MythbuntuGuest75Easy ... thanks for that - will give it a whirl.08:40
superm1TazgodX, but ntohign about acx at the end?08:40
TazgodXand "[ 4147.399764]  acx: Loaded combined PCI/USB driver, firmware_ver=default" higher up08:40
lagamorning08:40
CBiLLMythbuntuGuest75 : I might add08:40
CBiLLMythbuntuGuest75 : that you will probably expereince slow scrolling of the menu08:41
superm1hi laga08:41
CBiLLwhich is normal until you get the video driver installed08:41
superm1i want them to fix the unionfs bug already08:41
superm1i'm sick of waiting08:41
lagayes.08:41
MythbuntuGuest75Thanks for answers CBill and tgm4883.08:41
mactenchiafter update, i guess i need to go through mythtv-setup to change to schedules direct?08:44
superm1yes08:47
tgm4883_laptopwell i think i fixed my screen blanking problem, although I dont' think it is a good fix08:47
tgm4883_laptopi will work on it more tomarrow and see if I can figure out what I did on feisty.  I wish I still had my old files :(08:48
superm1well i'm wondering if its some bug introduced in gutsy08:51
CBiLL!pastebin08:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:56
mactenchithanks for the help, everyone.09:12
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directhex|workcheers superm110:12
lagahush, he's sleeping10:14
laga;)10:14
directhex|workwell if he's going to commit bug fixes at 11pm, i won't see them until the morning!10:15
lagaheh10:15
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lagafailing at the point where i wanna display a new window using pygtk/glade ;)10:16
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CBiLLwhat was the commadn to update10:40
CBiLLsudo apt-get update10:40
CBiLLright?10:40
lagayes10:41
lagaand sudo apt-get upgrade afterwards10:41
lagamight be better to use sudo aptitude dist-upgrade for gutsy now10:41
CBiLLhrmm10:42
CBiLLat the upgrade now10:42
CBiLLhrmmp10:42
CBiLLalso to upgrade the control centre?10:42
CBiLLsudo apt-get update mytbuntu-control-centre was it?10:43
lagano10:43
lagaupgrade or dist-upgrade upgrades everything10:43
CBiLLoh ok cool10:43
CBiLLthanks10:43
directhex|work"apt-get" is a slightly older package manager. you could try "aptitude" instead10:43
lagaaptitude is a bit smarter when it comes to handling dependency problems AFAIK10:43
directhex|work"$foomanager update" updates the local list of available packages and versions10:43
CBiLLI see10:43
CBiLLso i sould sudo aptitude upgrade then?10:44
directhex|work"foomanager upgrade" upgrades all installed apps to the newest versions the system knows about, without altering installed apps10:44
CBiLLwell it downloading shall I cancel it?10:44
directhex|work"$foomanager dist-upgrade" upgrades all installed apps to the newest versions the system knows about, including uninstalling old things and installing new things where neccessary to do a proper upgrade, in cases where dependencies change10:44
CBiLLmythbuntu-lirc-generator10:50
CBiLLE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:50
CBiLLcraps10:50
lagathere should be more output.10:51
CBiLLnope that it10:52
CBiLLoh well doing the sudo aptitude dist-upgrade now10:52
CBiLLI had the same thing yesterday10:52
CBiLLand it locked up my mythtv10:52
CBiLLso I had to completely reinstall lol10:52
CBiLLno error this time10:56
CBiLLcool10:56
laga:)10:57
CBiLLrebooting now10:57
CBiLLI think I may found the answer to my flickering problme10:57
CBiLLwill find out as soon mythbuntu is up and running10:57
CBiLLlaga : get http://www.stlaware.com/test.mpg and tell me if it play back for you? only 12 meg10:58
CBiLLif you don't mind10:58
lagaCBiLL: what's that?10:58
CBiLLdirect record of my flickering problem10:59
CBiLLlook like control centre is broken10:59
CBiLLcan't access it at all10:59
CBiLLoh well10:59
CBiLLany step I should try next?10:59
lagaum11:00
lagaopen a terminal, type "mythbuntu-control-centre" and look for error messages11:00
CBiLLok11:00
lagaCBiLL: ok, thaT's bad flickering. :/11:01
lagabut let's have a look at the control centre first!11:01
CBiLLwon't let me open a term hehe11:01
CBiLLhrmmp11:01
CBiLLI can ssh in thou11:01
lagaoh :/11:01
CBiLLhrmmm ssh down too11:01
CBiLLlol11:02
laga:'(11:02
CBiLLI am in11:02
lagacan you launch the control centre?11:02
CBiLLnope11:02
CBiLLbut I am in ssh11:02
CBiLLwell I can't xsession at all11:03
lagahuh?11:03
lagaso, what's exactly going on now?11:04
CBiLLcan't get a term window at all11:04
lagabut X is still working?11:04
CBiLLyes but can't get into it11:04
CBiLLwhat session shoudl I pick?11:04
directhex|workif you're connected via ssh, are you using "ssh -X" so you can actually run GUI apps?11:04
CBiLLno I am trying to start X11:05
CBiLLok got failsafe xterm11:05
CBiLLtrying control centre11:05
CBiLLNo module named MythbuntuControlCentre.core11:06
CBiLLthat the error message11:06
CBiLLsuggestions?11:07
CBiLL=P11:07
CBiLLI am all ears!11:07
CBiLLhehehe11:07
lagahum.11:07
laga:)11:07
lagarun sudo aptitude dist-upgrade another time.. just to be sure nothing broke11:07
CBiLLis it possible to reinstall with apt-get then?11:07
CBiLLok11:07
CBiLLyes something is broken sec getting a pastebin11:08
directhex|work"apt-get install --reinstall packagename" if you really want to know how to reinstall a package11:09
CBiLLhttp://pastebin.com/m1834d6e011:09
directhex|worklirc in "causing problems" shocker11:10
lagaheh11:10
lagaCBiLL: ok. interesting11:10
CBiLLheh11:10
CBiLLyup11:10
CBiLLvery11:10
CBiLLlol11:10
lagaCBiLL: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force lirc"11:10
lagamight fix that11:10
directhex|worklirc just screams "i was made for the 2.2 kernel, that's still modern, right?" to me11:11
CBiLLwell doesn't look like it but trying again11:11
lagaCBiLL: still the same errors?11:12
lagadirecthex|work: it's included in ubuntu now, users shouldn't have as much problems anymore11:12
CBiLLall it did was bring up a screen for me to pick a remote11:12
CBiLLI selected none then it shut down11:12
CBiLLthen I try again and pick a remote .. same thing11:13
directhex|worklaga, does it sort out all the setserial crap?11:13
lagadirecthex|work: dunno about that (yet).11:13
CBiLLhrmmm let me try installing lirc by hand then .. I done enough lirc installing to do it from memory11:13
lagaCBiLL: it's ok if it "hsuts down", it's not OK if you get error messages11:13
lagas/hsuts/shuts/11:14
directhex|worklaga, well that's a major one really - when a user needs to hack on init scripts themselves to be sure it actually behaves...11:14
lagaCBiLL: if you install lirc from source, the package dependencies still won't be fulfilled :)11:14
CBiLLyeah that true11:14
CBiLLnow what11:14
CBiLLhrmmm11:14
lagadirecthex|work: true. file a bug? ;)11:14
lagaCBiLL: what error messages are you getting now, after choosing a different remote?11:15
CBiLLmediabox@MediaBox:/etc/lirc$11:15
CBiLL. /etc/lirc/hardware.conf: 4:  II RF Remote: not found11:15
CBiLLthis one11:15
directhex|worklaga, i haven't gone near RS232 since moving to ubuntu. and amaya really didn't seem to care about bugs in lirc when i ran debian, since lirc is smelly.11:16
lagadirecthex|work: but we care about bugs in lirc. :)11:17
lagawell, superm1 does. :>11:17
CBiLLopen to suggestions =P11:17
CBiLLplease don't say reinstall11:17
directhex|worklaga, masochist!11:17
lagaCBiLL: what's at line 4 in that file?11:17
CBiLLok11:17
CBiLLah I see11:18
CBiLLthe line is wrong11:18
CBiLLfixing it then11:18
lagahow is that line wrong?11:19
CBiLLdouble REMOTE="" in that line11:19
lagaoh11:19
lagaCBiLL: please file a bug!11:19
CBiLLREMOTE="ATI/NVidia/X10 I REMOTE="None " II RF Remote"11:19
CBiLLsee it?11:19
lagaouch11:19
CBiLLediting then see if it fixes it11:19
lagayes, that's ugly11:19
CBiLLhrmm no error this time11:20
CBiLLand there is the control!11:20
CBiLL8-)11:20
CBiLLthanks laga .. I would have not thought of looking at that line 411:21
CBiLLin the first place11:21
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CBiLLyou can file bug if you want11:21
CBiLLI want to play with mythbuntu!11:22
CBiLLhehehe11:22
lagaCBiLL: please file a bug about that, describing how it happened (during an upgrade) etc11:22
CBiLLok11:22
CBiLLurl to file bug at?11:22
lagaglade-3 is making me wanna cry11:22
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CBiLLok got nvidia installed .. rebooting11:22
lagaCBiLL: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bugs11:24
CBiLLI might have to do this next http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-350#Playback_Freezes11:24
directhex|worklaga, who uses glade 3?11:25
DaveMorrisme11:26
CBiLLno flickerings11:26
DaveMorrisglade2 is been depreceated11:26
CBiLLwhich I am afraid of11:27
CBiLLseem like turning on teletextis causing the problem maybe hrmm11:27
lagaglade-3 is not *gently caress*ing aving my signals sometimes.11:28
lagait's not like i put them in there for fun.11:28
lagaso please save them to disk, dear glade-3. kthx.11:28
DaveMorrislaga: I've not had that problem before11:29
lagai'm probably just being stupid.11:29
lagai don't know anything about python or gtk, i just type in my signal and want it to be used11:30
DaveMorrisoh, I used the user interface designer for GTK+, and the hook the signals up to my c++ code11:30
lagaah, now it's working. needs some additional clicks11:31
CBiLLok done with bug report11:35
CBiLLyou should see it pop in the channel in a minute hehe11:35
CBiLLwell it not flickering11:36
CBiLLgoing to turn on CC .. I am afraid that was causing it .. I hope not11:36
CBiLLcuz being deaf I need it 8-/11:36
CBiLLhrmm now won't let me run mythtv setup ..11:38
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CBiLLblah got locked out11:42
CBiLLhad to ssh in to reboot 8-/11:42
laga:/11:43
lagadid you re-run dist-upgrade after fixing lirc?11:43
CBiLLyes11:43
CBiLLno error found11:43
CBiLLthe bug occured when I try to access mythtv setup in control centre11:43
CBiLLit complained I need to be in the same group etc11:44
CBiLLok I think flickering is back11:45
lagaum11:45
lagaok11:45
CBiLLwait11:45
lagaare you using a pvr 150 and trying to enable CC?11:45
ubotuNew bug: #140647 in lirc (main) "mythbuntu control centre refuse to load after doing a "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14064711:45
CBiLL50011:46
CBiLLpvr 500 and enabled CC11:46
CBiLLyeah it back11:46
lagaCBiLL: go to the recording profiles11:46
lagaCBiLL: in mythfrontend11:46
CBiLLok11:46
lagaand set 640x480 there as recording resolution11:47
lagafor "default" and "livetv" at least.11:47
CBiLLI am there11:47
lagatell me if it works afterwards11:47
lagaif yes, file a bug ;)11:47
lagathere's a bug in ivtv which will cause issues if CC and scaling is enabled, AFAIK11:48
CBiLLno change11:48
CBiLLstill flickering11:48
CBiLLthat recording I made11:48
CBiLLwas cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg11:49
CBiLLso it not mythtv11:49
lagayes, but the resolution was probably wrong11:50
CBiLLah I see11:50
CBiLLdidn't help 8-/11:50
CBiLLat least I am happy to know it not the card11:51
CBiLL8-/11:51
lagaoh '/11:51
laga:'(11:51
CBiLLyou think increasing buffer will work?11:51
CBiLLit ok11:51
CBiLLI can go back to SageTV11:51
lagaCBiLL: no.. i doubt it..11:51
lagaheh, i believe there's a fix somewhere11:51
CBiLLhrmm11:51
CBiLLI been looking for the past 16 hours11:52
CBiLLtring mythdora mythknopp Fedora/MythTV and this Mythbuntu twice now hehe11:52
lagaworking in mythdora?11:53
CBiLLno same11:53
CBiLLoh wow11:54
CBiLLflickerign with VBI off now11:54
CBiLLhrmmm11:54
lagahttp://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/248558?search_string=hans%20verkuil;#24855811:54
lagaduh11:55
lagai was being stupid11:55
lagaCBiLL: increase capture resolution to 720x4811:55
lagaCBiLL: increase capture resolution to 720x48011:55
lagafor both livetv and default11:55
CBiLLok11:56
CBiLLI saw that post11:56
CBiLLhrmmmm11:58
CBiLLmaybe 8-)11:58
lagamaybe?12:00
CBiLLmaybe fixed12:00
CBiLLwaiting12:00
CBiLLand watching12:00
lagaah12:00
lagathat's the problem with mythtv12:00
lagai always get carried away watching TV when testing stuff12:00
CBiLLwaiting for a show with CC to start12:00
CBiLLtoo many commericals12:00
CBiLLhehe12:01
lagabah12:02
lagai need someone who knows the python apt api12:02
CBiLLit started12:02
lagaor i need source which is properly documented12:02
CBiLLso far looking good12:02
CBiLLI think you fixed it12:02
lagai'm glad to hear that12:03
CBiLLI am so glad your here at this time of the hour12:03
CBiLL5am12:03
CBiLLhehe12:03
CBiLLthank you so much12:03
CBiLLit mean lots!12:03
lagait's noon here :)12:03
CBiLLah12:03
CBiLLlet me think .. hrmmmm German?12:03
CBiLLno wait .. euro!12:04
lagaCBiLL: no, i want people to be happy with mythbuntu. i have already dedicated a lot of my time to so people should use it :)12:04
lagayes, german12:04
CBiLLah I was right! lol12:04
CBiLLhehe12:04
laga"european" is not a nationality :)12:04
CBiLLUSA here12:04
CBiLLit look sweet12:04
lagayup, thought that :)12:04
CBiLLgoing to increase fonts12:04
lagaCBiLL: ok, file a bug with that info please, also include link to the http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/248558?search_string=hans%20verkuil;#24855812:05
lagai'm working on the control centre right now so i need a reminder to look at it later12:05
lagaor maybe someone else will take it12:05
CBiLLok will do in a minute12:05
CBiLLunder which topic ? mythtv?12:06
lagayes, and/or mythbuntu12:07
lagadoesnt really matter12:07
CBiLLok trying to find the cat then12:08
CBiLLpackage - mythbuntu correct?12:10
lagayup12:11
CBiLLyou saw the mpg12:11
CBiLLwhat would you call it?12:11
CBiLLflickering?12:11
CBiLLdistortation?12:11
CBiLLtrying to think how to describe it in a bug report12:12
lagabad flickering, part of the picture overlaid over the rest12:13
CBiLLthanks12:13
CBiLLok writing it12:13
lagait's just a reminder to set the video resolution appropriately, basically12:13
CBiLLyeah12:14
CBiLLdoes it mean it will use up more space to record show?12:15
CBiLLbigger mpeg filesize per recording?12:15
directhex|worklaga, i write my gui apps in c#, where nobody wanted to touch glade 3 with a barge pole12:20
lagadirecthex|work: i'm slowly getting the hang of it12:21
CBiLLdone laga12:24
CBiLLthank so much man12:24
CBiLLyou save me lot of headaches!12:24
CBiLLI can't believe how simple a fix it is12:24
laga:)12:24
lagaglad it's working for you now12:24
CBiLLany idea if it records the line21 CC into mpeg too?12:25
CBiLLI hope so12:25
lagawhat's line21? the stuff you're viewing now?12:26
CBiLLstuff that embedded into the video itself12:26
CBiLLwhere it decodes the CC from12:26
CBiLLor teletext12:26
CBiLLI think it line22 on PAL12:26
CBiLL8-)12:26
lagai have no clue12:26
CBiLL<- expert on teletext coding12:26
CBiLL=P12:27
CBiLLhehe12:27
CBiLLwell being deaf make you one12:27
lagaare you wondering if your CC ill be available in the recordings as well12:27
lagaheh, figured as much12:27
CBiLLyup12:27
CBiLLlots of PVR strip it out of video12:28
CBiLLbefore writing to mpeg file12:28
CBiLLwhich disappoints me12:28
lagawell12:28
lagayou _are_ watching a recording right now12:28
lagamythtv records everything you watch12:28
CBiLLhrmm so it should playback the CC? let me try that in mplayer12:28
CBiLLneed to get samba working12:29
CBiLLwhere the config for it?12:29
lagai have no clue12:29
laganever used samba much12:29
CBiLLwow so perfect12:29
CBiLLI owe you a pint if I ever in german12:29
CBiLL=P12:30
lagaheh12:30
ubotuNew bug: #140659 in mythbuntu "Bad flickering with pictures overlaying each other pictures on PVR-500 with VBI enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14065912:30
CBiLLthere it is12:30
CBiLLheh12:30
lagacool, thanks12:32
CBiLLwelcome and thanks too12:32
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cornell_workA bit off topic, but I'd like y'all's opinions.  I'm looking for a gui text editor, which can be scripted using a common language (like PHP, Perl, Javascript) and has linux and windows versions, preferrably open source.  Any opinions?01:16
directhex|workso emacs doesn't count because it uses lisp?01:17
cornell_workIt would be the only thing I could program in lisp ;-)  The point is to be able to use a language that is also generally useful in other places.01:23
directhex|workphp's hardly a language for scripting an editor though01:24
lagabah01:25
lagai need to get better at coding.01:25
lagaenough frustration for now, RL is calling01:25
cornell_workRIght, directhex|work , PHP might not've been the best example.01:32
frink_perl would be ideal for editor scripting01:47
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directhex|workeverything makes sense to someone01:50
directhex|workhell, GIMP uses Scheme for scripting as standard. hands up if you're done a decent Scheme course?01:50
cornell_workHands up if you heard of a Scheme ;-)02:03
cornell_workfrink_: probably right, Perl would be very good02:04
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lagayay, 515 karma points03:44
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DavieyYeah he does04:09
lagaheh04:14
lagalatest -rt kernel update in gutsy broke my sound04:14
lagaso beware04:14
directhex|worki finally have sound on my office pc for the first time ever (initially running dapper) after upgrading to gutsy04:16
lagaomh04:17
lagai cant begin to describe the amount of hae that's building up in my every time i try to print something in linux04:17
lagaand it doesn't work04:17
lagaand it's often not working04:17
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laga_very_ often.04:17
directhex|worki find printer choice helps04:18
directhex|workand with printing, as with any config task, not using kde helps too, since kcontrol is guaranteed to *gently caress* something up horribly every time04:18
lagait's an entry-level HP printer. HP was recommended by linuxprinting.org04:18
lagayeah, using kcontrol right now *sigh*04:19
lagathis printer is a POS04:19
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directhex|workwhat is it?04:20
frink_laga: my linux printing is fine04:20
lagadirecthex|work: HP deskjet 574004:21
lagait used to work in debian sarge and in feisty AFAIK04:21
lagaalways accompanied by random b0rkage04:21
directhex|workColor inkjet printer, max. 4800x1200 dpi, works Perfectly04:22
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frink_i have no probs printing04:30
frink_to postscript things, a plotter, a dell with a network card, a Cannon i86504:30
frink_but really, get postscript printers..04:31
frink_much easier. they just work on anything.04:31
tgm4883bah, go old school.  Stone and chisel04:31
directhex|worki had the joy of giving canon a 10-part plan on why we wouldn't buy a 10000 printer from them04:31
frink_why not?04:34
directhex|worknot sure if i still have it. hold on...04:34
frink_did it involve linux support?04:34
frink_I told a company making WiMAX PCMCIA cards that we would not buy any unless they support Linux.. They now reckon they will have the driver source in my hands in a month :)04:35
directhex|workfrink_, it did indeed involve linux support. let me get the email up04:35
frink_cool04:35
directhex|workhttp://www.apebox.org/canon.txt04:36
frink_ precisely how much crack would we need to have04:39
frink_smoked to consider Canon to be a better option?04:39
frink_lol04:39
frink_that's a great line :)04:39
directhex|worki'm pretty sure i used it on the phone to them04:40
superm1morning04:40
lagamorning superm104:41
directhex|worksuperm1 awakes!04:41
lagaok, bank was already closed *grrr*04:41
frink_hey superm104:41
superm1laga, more than 7 hours right :)04:41
lagasuperm1: about 7:2004:41
lagagood boy04:41
superm1haha04:41
lagai should open a kindergarten for distro maintainers04:42
lagasuperm1: BTW, the UI side for the mythweb auth stuff was surprisingly easy.04:42
lagai can't get the backend side of things to work because i dunno how to use debconf.py :)04:42
superm1laga, oh be careful with that04:43
superm1there is a reason why its not on right now04:43
laga"on"?04:43
superm1you can only have one debconf backend active at a time04:43
lagaoh.04:43
superm1is there any code in the control centre alluding that i wanted to use it?04:43
superm1there should be04:43
superm1or maybe i'm thinking of live-autostart04:43
lagai dunno, i didn't grep in there.04:43
frink_Ya know what would be nice...04:43
chukwhat is that message box that comes up on the current version of trunk when you start it?04:43
lagai just looked in ubiquity04:44
chukabout choosing a server04:44
lagachuk: upnp04:44
lagachuk: you should follow mythtv-commits and mythtv-dev if you use trunk04:44
frink_on the web front end on the recorded programmes list, clicking on the programme links to the file on disk. It'd be nice if it could transcode that in real time to something streamable.04:44
superm1laga, well if you end up doing debconf in the control centre, you have to find a way to stop it and start it04:44
superm1which i don't think is possible unless you call it via a shell script04:44
superm1that sources the debconf /usr/share/debconf/module04:44
lagasuperm1: debconf.py does stop it AFAIK04:44
lagaor at least it's possible to do that04:45
superm1laga, not in my tests.  it forks a process that runs debconf, and then somehow the parent process is turned into a child04:45
superm1or something wacky like that04:45
lagao_O04:45
superm1which makes sense for most applications of it, but not this one04:45
lagait runs debconf-communicate', '-fnoninteractive04:46
lagaanyways, gotta run.04:47
lagasuperm1: oh, one last thing. can we actually still upload new versions of the packages?04:47
superm1laga, well yes and no04:47
superm1regarding what it runs04:47
tgm4883frink_, like mythstreamtv?04:48
superm1laga, its needs to run one more thing in order to work04:48
superm1i can try to explain better what i ran into later04:48
superm1laga, 'new' in what sense?04:48
lagasuperm1: "new" as in "i added stuff to the control centre"04:49
superm1oh yeah that can still go in04:49
lagagood.04:49
lagadont wanna be stressing myself over things which still have time04:49
tgm4883do things in the ppa have to adhere to the universe guidelines like version numbering?04:50
superm1its just new upstream versions that we can't do04:50
superm1tgm4883, they *should*04:50
tgm4883they *should*, but they are not *required*?04:50
superm1well why do you bring this up?04:50
lagaok, bye04:51
superm1cya04:51
tgm4883eh, my gutsy pbuilder is borked and I need to package something, but it doesn't follow the right version number04:51
superm1what version number does it follow?04:53
tgm4883um04:53
tgm4883well one is bzr2404:53
tgm4883thats how it ends04:53
superm1okay i guess explain better04:53
superm1what's in universe04:53
superm1and what do you want to do on the ppa04:53
tgm4883ah04:54
tgm4883it's not in universe04:54
tgm4883I am packaging the AWN for reacocard for 64-bit, but i only have a feisty pbuilder right now04:54
superm1didn't someone already do awn in a ppa?04:54
tgm4883so basically i want to package it on the ppa and send it to reacocard so he can host it04:55
superm1Armanath04:55
tgm4883hmm04:55
tgm4883link?04:55
superm1i dont have a link, i just remember him discussing it04:55
superm1or maybe RAOF04:55
tgm4883hm, i'll have to check it out04:56
superm1well maybe not, i dont see it in either of their ppa's04:58
superm1well i would really recommend following the universe version structure04:59
superm1it will save lots of hassle later04:59
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tgm4883so then how should I change the versioning if it is coming from bzr?05:13
tgm4883I mean, i don't want to totally blow away the bzr number right?05:16
tgm4883for instance this is what it currently looks like avant-window-navigator-bzr_0.1.2-bzr73-1.dsc05:16
superm1well that versioning is fine05:25
superm1you just need to make it an ubuntu version05:26
superm1that's a debian one05:26
superm1so like05:26
superm10.1.2-bzr73-1ubuntu0~ppa105:26
DaveMorrissuperm1: you able to review my package for me today?05:28
superm1DaveMorris, it will have to be late, i have the career fair today05:28
superm1i'll try to afterward05:28
frink_umm05:29
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frink_using vlc stream/transcode mythtv recordings does somewhat rock when you have 1.3Mb/s uplink on your home DSL :)05:29
DaveMorrissuperm1: best of luck with that, I won't be around later so just mail me your comments if you do it today05:29
superm1l05:29
superm1k05:29
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tgm4883superm1, have you seen this before when doing dput IOError: [Errno 13]  Permission denied:05:30
superm1nope05:33
tgm4883:*05:37
tgm4883:(05:37
frink_strace it05:40
tgm4883heh05:41
tgm4883superm1, I think it is required to follow the ubuntu versioning05:41
frink_heh05:41
frink_i went to a career fair at a local college05:41
frink_they wanted me to talk about careers in the Internet industry05:42
frink_they wanted me to emphasize how important it is to stay in education to succeed, unfortunately, i dropped out of college and did well anyway and I was not going to lie05:42
frink_they didnt invite me back this year05:42
superm1haha05:43
frink_they invited EVERYBODY else back who spoke though.05:43
DaveMorrisfrink_: Formal Education05:45
DaveMorrisisn't the best route for everyone05:45
DaveMorrisyou where right to tell them that05:45
directhex|workmore qualifications make you a better human being!05:45
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frink_DaveMorris: Quite.05:45
frink_I just did not get on with it.. Though I am going to Uni this year to read Theology.05:46
frink_but  then, I was more interested in how much free Internet access I could get through through BT's X.25 network05:46
frink_and getting free phonecalls on my P305:46
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tgm4883sweet, i just got spam from 200305:46
DaveMorrisfrink_: which uni, and I'm assuming the UK05:47
frink_DaveMorris: www.lst.ac.uk05:48
frink_yup in the UK05:48
tgm4883DaveMorris, you know your tracking code is still not verified for your website?05:56
lagare06:02
laga567.853202]  snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module06:06
lagaanyone else seeing this with latest gutsy kernel?06:06
tgm4883wtf06:09
laga-rt kernel that is06:09
tgm4883i just installed stumble upon and this is the first site it sent me to06:09
tgm4883http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.swf06:10
lagayou're cruel for sending flash video to a man with broken sound drivers06:10
tgm4883sorry :(06:10
lagaand ffs, unionfs is still broken.06:11
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tgm4883heh06:11
lagai'm under the impression they shipped a new kernel package which the same "real" version number. it's still 2.6.22-11-rt here06:14
tgm4883whoa06:15
tgm4883http://www.100mb.nl/06:15
lagalooks like linux-ubuntu-modules needs a rebuild06:17
DaveMorristgm4883 tracking code?06:19
tgm4883yea06:19
tgm4883for google analytics06:19
DaveMorrisI have no idea what you mean06:19
tgm4883hmm06:20
DaveMorrisoh for greenacre.no-ip.com06:20
tgm4883yes06:20
DaveMorristhat got added to the mythbuntu tracking stuff?06:20
tgm4883yep06:20
DaveMorrisI just looked at it, I never put the javascript into the pages06:20
tgm4883I made the same mistake for my company website, you have to make a new team if you want to keep it seperate06:20
DaveMorrisok thnaks06:21
tgm4883that would be why the tracking is missing06:21
lagasomething in my printer setups likes to SIGSEGV06:26
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keescooksuperm1: hey, your lirc patch -- I noticed the entire postinst was dropped -- was that intentional?06:41
lagayay, sound working again. after recompiling linux-ubuntu-modules06:42
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deffconso guys can i test somethings out for you today07:25
keescooksuperm1: ah, nm, you fixed it (or my build got sane).  I've uploaded the lirc stuff now.  Thanks!07:33
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lagakeescook: thanks07:40
deffconsuperm1: which lircd.conf have u used for mythbuntu alpha 4 ( mceusb2 ) ? The one one from lirc.com/remotes07:59
foxbuntudeffcon, just use the mythbuntu-lirc-generator and you will not need to do all that08:21
deffconsuperm1: not exactly true if i may say because some buttons on my mce remote didn't work at all even though i tried to change in mythtv controls, but i solved it i had to change my lircrc, so back to basics08:26
deffconsuperm1: do you have experience with nvidia 7100 with mythbuntu i can't get it to work08:28
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tgm4883deffcon, whats not working?08:39
deffconi see the mythtv gui but no menu items ( the text )08:56
CBiLLare there more skin for mythtv?09:08
tgm4883CBiLL, yes09:10
tgm4883mythtv-themes09:11
tgm4883deffcon, mythbuntu?09:11
tgm4883and did you install the restricted drivers?09:11
CBiLLie is there a website with collection of myth themes?09:19
CBiLLis there a youtube plugin for mythtv?09:20
tgm4883http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Themes09:23
lagai'd like to note that switching from i386 to amd64 on a live system can lead to horrible b0rkage09:25
tgm4883laga, I didn't even think that was possible09:25
lagawell09:25
lagai got to the point where i replaced libc6...09:26
lagai'm downloading a gutsy amd64 image now so i can fix this properly09:26
laga700K/s :(09:27
CBiLLHi laga how are you today?09:30
lagaCBiLL: it's still "today" for me :)09:31
lagai'm ok i think09:31
CBiLLheheh ok09:31
lagahow are you? mythv still working?09:32
CBiLLyes09:32
CBiLLworking good09:32
laganice09:32
CBiLLon SageTV I had a youtube pluging but doesn't look like MyhtTV have such feature?09:33
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SpudDoggsup all09:33
lagaCBiLL: in trunk, you can use mythbrowser with youtube09:33
lagaits not that great, but working09:33
lagahi SpudDogg09:33
CBiLLah ok thanks09:34
tgm4883im wondering if mythstream would work?09:34
lagawith youtube? hum09:34
SpudDogglaga: i just stumbled across the mythbuntu.org site.  i am very excited about this, because I am a long time mythtv user, but i love the ubuntu distro.  i hope i can be a valuable member of the crowd09:35
CBiLLI use youtube a lot becasue all deaf news or commuity event talks are sent to there09:35
tgm4883laga, yea, apparently it can grab video from rss09:35
lagatgm4883: i think mythnews in trunk has some multimedia support, too09:35
lagaSpudDogg: welcome aboard then :)09:36
SpudDogghey, does mythbuntu have out-of-the-box irblaster support?09:36
CBiLLfor some remotes yes09:37
lagacool, i didn't know that. :)09:37
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CBiLLdoesn't it ask you when you first set up to select a remote anyway?09:37
SpudDoggi have a myth box running now, and having an IR blaster really makes it better...i cant wait until this download is done :)09:37
CBiLLor config them in control centre09:37
CBiLLoh sorry I was thinking backward lol09:38
CBiLLdon't know baout sending out signal09:38
CBiLLI haven't learn that part yet09:38
SpudDoggahh, ok.  well if it's not there yet, i'll add it :)09:38
CBiLLbut I do know it got remote support thou 8-)09:39
lagaSpudDogg: that'd be great09:39
CBiLLdidn't have mine09:39
CBiLLI had to add it09:39
lagaCBiLL: remote? which one?09:39
CBiLLFirefly but I submitted bug report and added the conf files for it09:39
lagagood09:39
lagai was just gonna say.. :>09:39
CBiLLheheh already done09:39
CBiLL8-)09:40
lagaSpudDogg: feel free to join our mailing list if you wanna participate09:40
SpudDoggsure will09:40
CBiLLare extra themes in the repo? can I apt-get them or I have to download it from wiki?09:40
SpudDoggdidnt see that on the site, but i'll do look again09:41
lagaSpudDogg: not sure if it's on there09:41
lagaCBiLL: install mythtv-themes09:41
lagamany themes are missing, though09:41
lagathey're outdated (not working anymore with current mythtv)09:42
lagaor simply not packaged09:42
CBiLLah I see09:42
lagasoon we'll have weekly builds for some themes09:42
lagathere's just not enough time in the day09:42
CBiLLis that the mailing list? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/09:42
lagaCBiLL: no09:43
lagaerr09:43
deffcontgm4883: yes i installed the restricted drivers yes from mythbuntu-control-centre09:43
deffcontgm4883 : still no text in mythtv gui09:43
CBiLLonly thing I found that says "mailing list" on www.mythbuntu.org09:43
lagaCBiLL, SpudDogg: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-mythtv09:44
lagadeffcon: if you have some spare time, you could translate https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/mythbuntu-control-centre/+pots/mythbuntu-control-centre09:45
lagathat's the control centre09:45
CBiLLthanks laga09:45
deffconlaga : maybe you can help me with me nvidia 7100 card in othe frontend with alpha 4 --> no text in mythtv gui09:46
bendaileydeffcon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/13716709:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] 09:49
CBiLLI wonder how many time that bug report comes up hehe09:50
deffconbendailey: this is not my problem, i have just no text in the mythtv gui09:50
bendaileydeffcon: sorry I realized that after I posted and then reread09:52
deffconanybody?09:53
bendaileydeffcon: can you navigate?09:53
deffconi'am i missing fonts or something, i removed my theme-cache already but that didn't work also09:54
deffconlaga: i'm already busy with the dutch " mythbuntu-control-centre"09:54
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lagadeffcon: great :)10:01
lagadeffcon: ok.. does it work without the proprietary nvidia driver?10:01
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deffconif i set vesa in the xorg.conf i get text10:04
deffconlaga : if i set vesa in the xorg.conf i get text10:04
lagaok10:05
lagahum10:05
deffconyes strange he10:05
deffconwhen do you choose for nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new10:05
deffcon?10:05
laganvidia-glx is for "normal" cards, nvidia-glx-new is for the newest cards. with my 7600GS for example, i can use nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx10:07
lagadeffcon: run mythfrontend -O10:09
laga                  ThemePainter=qt10:10
lagaerr10:10
lagamythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt10:10
lagaworking?10:10
SpudDoggman, i cant even boot mythbuntu livecd using the vesa driver :/10:11
SpudDoggi keep getting that damn X error..now waiting for command prompt10:12
deffconi have to run upstairs one moment please10:13
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taffhi ! just found out about mythubuntu ! seems to be a nice project .. anybody has a list of supported video cards ? i never got my Cinergy 600 TV to record on ubuntu10:15
taffit works with tvtime ... but not with vdr .... ( no dvb card )10:15
NeoFaxI cannot install mythbuntu.  Ubiquity errors always with  an error 211.10:16
tgm4883_laptoptvtime?  I thought you said it didn't work with ubuntu?10:16
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, what step?10:17
taffwell it works for watching ....10:17
tgm4883_laptoptaff, did it work in mythtv?10:17
taffbut not with recording / tvtime cannot record.... and as far as i know mythtv uses vdr ... --> that never worked10:17
NeoFaxWhile it is installing it gets to installing software and then exits at approximatly 50-60%10:17
deffconlaga : nope not working10:17
taffno nothing worked with mythtv :) but this could be because of me :D10:17
taffright now i only could get tvtime to work ... but unfortunalty i cannot record with it10:18
tgm4883_laptopok10:19
tgm4883_laptopwhy again won't it work with vdr?10:19
taffwell vdr does crash because it does not recognise the buffer of the video card ... at least thats the error message with some hex code10:19
taffbut to be honest i am not really sure if it will work with vdr because i have read that it only supports dvb cards .. is that true ?10:20
taffbtw thanks for reading and helping :)10:20
tgm4883_laptoplaga, is saa7134 built into gutsy?10:21
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: It errors on the install of the software10:22
deffconlaga ?10:22
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, did you verify the iso and burnt cd?10:22
tgm4883_laptoptaff, I think it will work10:22
taffsaa7134 is built into feisty .... so i am sure it is in gutsy ?10:22
tgm4883_laptopa quick google shows your card uses saa7134, which just requires a modprobe in feisty10:22
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: 3 times.  I am even trying to use it in a virtualbox.  The md5sum matches and it boots fine.10:23
tgm4883_laptopmythtv uses non dvb cards fine10:23
SpudDoggi've found a problem with the live CD's X configuration...who do i report that to?10:23
tgm4883_laptopNeoFax, and virtualbox is giving you the same problems?10:23
taffwell it works with feisty on tvtime ;) but i get this buffer error with vdr10:23
taffi have had this problem for months now ... and it is one of my last reasons to still run windows ...10:24
tgm4883_laptopSpudDogg, file a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/10:24
tgm4883_laptoptaff, did you try it with mythtv?10:24
taffyes10:24
tgm4883_laptopand it didn't work10:24
taffdid not work10:24
SpudDoggtgm4883_laptop: doing it right now, thanks10:24
tgm4883_laptopdid you modprobe the saa7134 driver?10:25
taffno actually not10:25
tgm4883_laptopmodprobe that driver then10:25
taffi thought the driver should be alright10:25
taffsince it works with tvtime ... am i wrong here =10:25
tgm4883_laptopI direct you to all the other cards that use the saa7134 (non dvb) driver and  mythtv.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list10:26
taffok i will check thanks ! i have used modeprobe before but only with guides10:26
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: I am working on getting virtualbox to work in sidux.  It looks like I have to log out for me to be added to the vboxuser group.10:26
taffhow do i exactly use it with the saa7134 driver ? ( sorry if it is too newbie ! )10:27
NeoFaxIs there a way to restat the user info without restarting X?10:27
tgm4883_laptopback in 5 min10:27
tgm4883_laptopnot off the top of my head10:27
taffmhmh i don't really understand .. the teratek card is not listed and all the saa realted topics are with dvb cards ... little confused10:32
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taffhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Terratec_Cinergy_600  --> not really alot of information yet :P10:37
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tgm4883_laptoptaff http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Video_capture_card10:37
tgm4883_laptopthen you will notice your card is listed here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa713410:38
tgm4883_laptopyou will also notice that other cards also use saa713410:38
tgm4883_laptopand that these cards had to modprobe the saa7134 driver to get it to work in mythtv in Ubuntu Feisty, that info is located here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_hardware_list10:39
tgm4883_laptopfor instance a card that uses that is the Compro Videomate DBT-20010:40
tgm4883_laptopwhere they have to modprobe the saa7134 driver to get it to work under Feisty10:40
taffsorry if this is not the right place but what exactly does modprobe do ?10:41
tgm4883_laptopIt loads the driver10:41
taffand i found this now : http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Terratec_Cinergy_400 this should be exactly the same10:41
taffbut the driver is loaded ? it would not work with tvtime if it is not loaded ? ( sorry this is just interest question :P )10:41
tgm4883_laptoparg10:42
taffyou don't have to answer ...10:42
taffi will just try it :)10:42
taffthanks alot for your help !10:43
NeoFaxtgm4883_laptop: In virtualbox it crashes at the same spot10:49
tgm4883NeoFax, what hardware?10:49
tgm4883alpha 4?10:49
tgm488332 or 64 bit?10:50
tgm4883backtrace?10:50
NeoFaxI have an Celeron 3.2 Ghz w/ an Nvidia video card10:50
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NeoFax32 bit alpha 410:50
NeoFaxI can send you a snapshot of the error10:50
tgm4883throw it up on a pic site10:51
tgm4883like photobucket10:53
SpudDoggwhen running this liveCD, i get a blank screen with a mouse pointer i can move around, but that's it.  the CD drive is running like hell, but i dont think anything is going on.  it's been here for about 5-6 minutes now.  is that normal?11:04
SpudDoggok, it went...it just took a REALLY long time11:06
lagaheh11:07
SpudDoggnot bad, i reported a bug in my first 20 mins11:07
SpudDoggnow i double-clicked the install mythbuntu icon about a dozen times.  is my computer just slow or what?11:08
lagamazbe it|s slow, aze11:08
lagasorry, layout messed up11:09
SpudDoggi see11:09
SpudDoggthat computer is an old one, but i dont think it should be THIS slow.  oh well, waiting around11:09
SpudDoggwait, did you just call me 'ace'?11:10
NeoFaxtgm4883: Here is the link:  http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/neofax/11:10
lagaor you need to double click faster11:10
SpudDogglaga: nah, plenty of click skills lol11:10
ubotuNew bug: #140799 in mythbuntu "Live CD's X configuration not correct" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14079911:11
SpudDoggahh, there's my bug report11:11
tgm4883heh11:12
tgm4883SpudDogg, im not sure thats a bug11:12
tgm4883I think it's something new in gutsy11:12
SpudDoggreally?  i have a plain gutsy install without that problem...but on a different machine11:12
tgm4883interesting11:12
SpudDogga regular ubuntu gutsy install that is11:12
tgm4883I have it without all that11:12
tgm4883yep11:13
tgm4883although in the next release that will all be fixed thanks to bulletproofx11:13
SpudDoggi dont even know if its possible to change defaults like that...i dont know what's involved in having a livecd detect hardware correctly11:13
SpudDoggahh ok11:13
lagabulletproofx is nice11:13
lagadeleted my xorg.conf and x still started11:14
tgm4883ah it's not that great I formatted my Hard drive and it told me Operating System not found ;)11:14
tgm4883bulletproof-x my ass11:15
SpudDoggman my test computer is slow...the window is just opening.  something is wrong with that picture11:15
lagahuhu11:15
lagahow can bulletproof x format zour hdd11:15
tgm4883whoosh11:15
tgm4883thats the sound of a joke going over your head11:15
lagaoh.11:15
tgm4883my GF has the same problem :)11:15
laga:(11:15
lagatgm4883: mazbe it wasnt that funnz11:15
lagafunny11:15
lagaheh11:15
tgm4883:*11:15
tgm4883:(11:15
lagascnr11:16
laga&me hugs tgm488311:16
lagai need to fix the keyboard layout11:16
tgm4883thats cause your not from US, no sense of humor ;)11:16
lagaand no us keyboard11:16
SpudDoggok fellas, bbl for more playing around11:16
tgm4883laga does this look familiar http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/neofax/11:17
tgm4883I didn't think this was popping up in alpha 411:17
laganot sure11:18
lagadid he enable vnc11:18
tgm4883NeoFax?11:18
tgm4883^^11:18
NeoFaxtgm4883: Yes?11:18
NeoFaxNo, It does not ask me about vnc11:18
tgm4883standard install or advanced?11:19
lagaoh11:19
NeoFaxStandard11:19
lagamz computer is broken so i cant reallz check bug reports11:19
lagajust report a new one11:19
lagaalthouh it looks kinda familar11:19
tgm4883thats what I thought11:19
NeoFaxOK, since it may be a bug.  How do I install mythbuntu?  Install Gutsy Kubuntu then use the cdrom to add packages?11:20
tgm4883sorta11:21
lagainstall gutsz and install mythbuntu-control-centre11:21
tgm4883you could install kubuntu then travel here http://www.mythbuntu.org/existingubuntu11:21
tgm4883arg11:21
tgm4883http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu11:21
NeoFaxlaga: That will install all of the dependencies?11:21
tgm4883you install it via the control centre11:21
tgm4883laga, do you know eta on beta release?11:22
NeoFaxOK.  Thanks!  That is my next endeavour.11:22
lagatgm4883: for mb or gutsy11:22
tgm4883MB11:22
lagano11:22
lagawe are way too busy heh11:22
tgm4883gutsy is easy, there is a schedule11:22
tgm4883mythbuntu I have to check with a sorcorass in the top of a castle11:23
tgm4883!logs11:31
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs11:31
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MythbuntuGuest19Hi all, checking out mythbuntu for the first time to upgrade to get schedules direct functionality.12:26
MythbuntuGuest19Got it installed, but the install script for the nvidia driver with TV out is not working and I am unsure what to do to troubleshoot12:26
MythbuntuGuest19x fails to start12:27
tgm4883MythbuntuGuest19, do you mean that duing install you can't install the nvidia driver or after install you cant?12:28
tgm4883what video card?12:28
tgm4883ok then, glad I could help12:29
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MythbuntuGuest73it was detected and installed, and it gave me the option to select tv out. After install x is not starting12:30
tgm4883what card?12:30
tgm4883did you install via the control-centre, or the command line?12:31
MythbuntuGuest73I would have to look it up - nvidia 5?00 or something likst that12:31
MythbuntuGuest73control center12:31
tgm4883hmm12:31
tgm4883any errors during startup?12:31
MythbuntuGuest73it says failed to load module12:31
MythbuntuGuest73no drivers available12:31
tgm4883does it say which one?12:31
MythbuntuGuest73is there a command line script to reconfigure?12:32
MythbuntuGuest73no, it does not12:32
MythbuntuGuest73I'll run the boot disk again and see if I missed something12:33
tgm4883did you verify the iso and cd?12:34
MythbuntuGuest73Nope12:34
MythbuntuGuest73I am lazy like that ;-P12:34
tgm4883try that :)12:34
MythbuntuGuest73Is the nvidia proprietary driver usually auto installed?12:35
lagano12:36
lagaok, its official: i broke my desktop :)12:36
MythbuntuGuest73maybe that is my problem - isn't that the only one where tv out works?12:36
lagatomorrow i shall reinstall gutsy12:36
lagaMythbuntuGuest73: for nvidia. zes.12:37
lagayes*12:37
MythbuntuGuest73I think I to recompile the kernel to get it working before12:37
lagagnight12:37
tgm4883Do I have to do anything special at the command line to build a source package for gutsy on a feisty system?12:38
lagatgm4883: specifz the distro in the changelog12:38
laganext to the version number theres a field for that afaik12:38
tgm4883thats all that needs done?12:38
lagazup, i think so12:38
lagacya12:38
tgm4883sweet, thanks12:38
tgm4883bye12:38
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MythbuntuGuest73did the check - no errors found12:47
MythbuntuGuest73Interestingly, the install locks when I try to choose the install proprietary drivers. If I hit ctl-alt-backspace it works on the second try.12:54
MythbuntuGuest73or it appears to work anyhow12:55
MythbuntuGuest73ok12:59
MythbuntuGuest73installed again12:59
MythbuntuGuest73now it gives the error "failed to fetch blablabla/nvidia-glx_1.0.9639blablabla12:59
tgm4883yea01:00
tgm4883you can't do the proprietary install during install01:00
tgm4883you have to do it after01:00
MythbuntuGuest73oh!01:00
MythbuntuGuest73how do I go about that?01:00
tgm4883from the control centre that you saw earlier01:00
tgm4883im hoping that it works the second time :)01:00
MythbuntuGuest73oh01:01
MythbuntuGuest73I get it now01:01
MythbuntuGuest73i'll try again01:01
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MythbuntuGuest73same deal - fails downloading driver01:14
superm1_g' evenin folks01:16
superm1_keescook, i saw that the upload for lirc was committed in my mail, thanks01:17

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