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=== Topic for #ubuntu-server: Ubuntu Server discussion and support | for general (not server specific) support visit #ubuntu | Seriously good guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
=== Topic (#ubuntu-server): set by nealmcb at Sat Jul  7 23:04:50 2007
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[11:20] <kraut> moin
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[11:52] <luk3> hi could anyone help me with a network card isue in server?
[11:53] <luk3> i have an acer machine and it will not detect my onboard network card
[11:53] <luk3> anyone got any ideas?
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[12:10] <luk3> anyone there?
[12:22] <luk3> could someone please help me with a ntwork card issue ?
[12:24] <soren> Which nic is it?
[12:26] <luk3> it is an onboard card built into my mb
[12:27] <luk3> it is an acer machine
[12:27] <luk3> asm1600
[12:28] <luk3> any ideas?
[12:28] <soren> What's the problem?
[12:28] <luk3> it does not detect my card
[12:28] <soren> What makes you say that?
[12:28] <luk3> when i type ifconfig i am just presented with the loopback info
[12:29] <luk3> and when i installed the os it said it could not find any network interfaces
[12:29] <soren> Type "ifconfig -a"
[12:29] <luk3> just comes up with loopback info
[12:30] <soren> Alright. Throw the output of lspci onto pastebin
[12:31] <soren> !pastebin
[12:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:31] <luk3> i cant because its not on the net
[12:31] <soren> Ah, right :)
[12:31] <soren> Well, give me the PCI id of the nic, then.
[12:32] <soren> Also, which version of Ubuntu is this?
[12:32] <luk3> its ubuntu server feisty
[12:32] <luk3> how do i get the pci id?
[12:33] <soren> lspci
[12:33] <luk3> ok done that what will it look like?
[12:33] <soren> identify the nic, "lspci -n" will show you the ID's.
[12:33] <soren> It will say "blahblahblah network blahblahbah"
[12:35] <luk3> 00:04.0 ethernet controller : silicon integrated system [sis]  191 gigabit ethernet adater (rev 02)
[12:35] <soren> Alright. And "lspci -n | grep 00:04.0" ?
[12:36] <luk3> 00:040 0200: 1039:0191 (rev 02)
[12:38] <luk3> any ideas?
[12:39] <soren> I'll just fire up my feisty box. Hang on.
[12:40] <luk3> thanks
[12:40] <luk3> im assuming that ubuntu hasnt gt the apropriate drivers for this ?
[12:41] <soren> That's why I'm checking my Feisty box.
[12:41] <soren> Gutsy has them.
[12:41] <soren> Feisty might not have.
[12:42] <luk3> 1039:0191 is the controller id right?
[12:42] <luk3> you you should be able to get a driver for that ?
[12:42] <luk3> i have never come across this before i have set up lods of boxes
[12:42] <luk3> :s
[12:42] <soren> It's the vendor and device id of the network interface card.
[12:43] <luk3> http://listing.driveragent.com/pci/1039/0191/10390191?r=02
[12:43] <luk3> so thats the right indows driver?
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[12:43] <soren> Feisty has the driver too.
[12:44] <soren> Try: sudo modprobe sis190
[12:44] <soren> and see what dmesg says
[12:45] <soren> luk3: I have no idea what that is.
[12:45] <luk3> no message
[12:45] <soren> Then it was probably already loaded.
[12:46] <soren> Remove it and load it again.
[12:46] <luk3> what ?
[12:46] <soren> Or dig through dmesg and see what it says.
[12:46] <soren> The driver
[12:46] <soren> sis190
[12:46] <soren> remove it and insert it again.
[12:46] <luk3> how?
[12:46] <soren> rmmod sis190
[12:47] <luk3> ok done
[12:47] <luk3> now restart the server?
[12:47] <soren> No.
[12:47] <soren> Just reload the driver
[12:47] <soren> modprobe sis190
[12:48] <luk3> ok
[12:48] <luk3> still not there
[12:48] <soren> whre?
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[12:48] <luk3> ifconfig
[12:48] <soren> no... We haven't changed anything.
[12:49] <soren> Look in dmesg
[12:49] <luk3> ye sis190 gig....... loaded
[12:49] <soren> Nothing else?
[12:50] <luk3> well it has all the other things but thats the ref to the network device
[12:50] <luk3> gigabit ethernet driver 1.2
[12:50] <soren> And still nothing in "ifconfig -a" ?
[12:52] <luk3> no
[12:53] <soren> There's not much I can do from here, then.
[12:53] <soren> I'd recommend you shove in a cheap-o NIC from your local hardware dealer instead.
[12:53] <luk3> only thing i can do is put another nic in i guess
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[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it possable to get the tasks lists used to create the ubuntu cds?
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[02:36] <m12> hello
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:37] <m12> hi kamping_kaiser
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:37] <m12> :)
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> how are you?
[02:38] <m12> i got today two HDD's about same size 20.0GB and 20.5GB
[02:38] <m12> i would like to setup raid on it
[02:38] <m12> but never done that
[02:38] <m12> any tips ?
[02:38] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: What particularly are you looking for?
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> soren, i'm trying to use debian-cd, and i thought if i had the tasks it might be easier
[02:42] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: That did not really answer my question :)
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> soren, oh :|
[02:45] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: Ok.. What are you trying to do?
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> soren, create an install cd that works the same as an ubuntu 'alternate' cd from scratch
[02:46] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: Ok... So what exactly are you looking for? The list of packages on the server cd?
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> soren, yes the package list, but for the desktop cd
[02:47] <soren> Ah, sorry, I mean "alternate".
[02:47] <soren> Look at the manifest on the cd?
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'll grab an image later and have a look. thanks.
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[03:27] <TeTeT> jdstrand: is there a graphical interface for auth-client-config?
[03:32] <jdstrand> TeTeT: no
[03:33] <jdstrand> TeTeT: I just put up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AuthClientConfig
[03:33] <jdstrand> TeTeT: its not a 'configurer', but rather a 'configuration manager'
[03:34] <jdstrand> TeTeT: if that makes any sense... :)
[03:38] <TeTeT> jdstrand: makes perfect sense, IMO authconfig from Red Hat follows a similar approach
[03:38] <jdstrand> TeTeT: it is really a low-level tool that other tools like debconf or authtool can use
[03:38] <TeTeT> jdstrand: anything planned for Hardy?
[03:40] <jdstrand> TeTeT: it is in gutsy universe and slated to go into main soon.  ldap-auth-client will use it for configuring ldap authentication.  After that, I imagine a kerberos-auth-client that will use it, and possibly integration with libpam-runtime and base-files, if the community wants that
[03:40] <TeTeT> ok
[03:45] <TeTeT> jdstrand: would you mind update me when a new configuration tool utilizes auth-client-config? The current list contains ldap-auth-client.
[03:45] <jdstrand> TeTeT: np
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[04:06] <TeTeT> jdstrand: thanks for the extremly fast feedback
[04:06] <jdstrand> TeTeT: :)
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[06:29] <spiekey> hi
[06:30] <spiekey> how can in install ubuntu server lts with a i386 kernel?
[06:30] <spiekey> it gets stuck at "configuring evms" when in install in within vmware
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[08:51] <soren> spiekey: which version of Ubuntu is that?
[08:51] <Burgundavia> hey soren
[08:52] <soren> Hey, Corey! What's up? Long time!
[08:52] <Burgundavia> just back from vacation
[08:54] <zul> how was south africa?
[08:54] <soren> Burgundavia: Cool.
[08:55] <Burgundavia> very good
[08:55] <Burgundavia> saw all my relatives I haden't seen in a while, saw the local wildlife, etc.
[08:55] <Burgundavia> marvelled at the terrible bandwidth
[08:55] <zul> heh could be worse
[08:56] <Burgundavia> the Uni of Stellenbosch, one of the larger and more techincal unis in SA pays 500,000 R/yr for 20 mbit
[08:56] <zul> Burgundavia: pretty normal for southern africa
[08:56] <Burgundavia> yep, sadly
[08:59] <Burgundavia> are there relatively recent x86 isos floating around?
[08:59] <Burgundavia> desktop ones, I meant
[09:00] <Nafallo> Burgundavia: tribe-5?
[09:00] <soren> I have no clue how much 500,000 Rand is in pounds or dollars or anything else I can relate to?
[09:00] <Burgundavia> about 75,000 USD
[09:00] <Nafallo> soren: google probably knows ;-)
[09:00] <soren> O.O
[09:00] <soren> Wow.
[09:00] <soren> I can get that for 400 pounds a year.
[09:01] <soren> Roughly.
[09:01] <ScottK> soren: Where are you?
[09:01] <Burgundavia> we are a little more
[09:01] <soren> ScottK: My basement :p
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[09:01] <ScottK> Heh.
[09:01] <soren> ScottK: ...which is in Denmark.
[09:01] <ScottK> OK.
[09:01] <soren> Nafallo: Hm?
[09:02] <Nafallo> soren: mhm?
[09:03] <Nafallo> soren: work benefit ;-)
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[09:03] <zul> isnt it kroner?
[09:03] <soren> ScottK: It is, but DKK wouldn't mean a lot to you people, I suppose?
[09:04] <soren> zul: Yes.
[09:04] <soren> Nafallo: Cool.
[09:04] <ScottK> Right, but I'd have guessed you'd generalize in Euro (I thought .dk was in the Euro zone)?
[09:04] <Nafallo> ScottK: not all counties in EU use EUR...
[09:04] <soren> ScottK: Nah, we didn't like the Euro.
[09:04] <Nafallo> countries even
[09:04] <ScottK> OK.
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[09:05] <Nafallo> sometimes I wonder if any countries do :-P
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[09:39] <nealmcb> where can I get Ubuntu's JeOS?  Re: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-jeos and http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2198483/ubuntu-expands-virtual
[09:45] <nealmcb> though it seems that there would be many JeOS's, one per application.  But the core, or one targeted at django or apache or something, is what I'm looking for.
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[10:03] <ScottK> Anyone here who uses clamav-milter on Feisty?  We have a security patch we'd like to test.
[10:06] <mralphabet> any suggestions about how to decompile a .dll file?
[10:24] <wasabi> mralphabet: This seems a strange place to ask that.
[10:35] <mralphabet> wasabi: true
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[10:37] <theacolyte> What does this mean? And how can I fix it? Seems like one of those really dumb errors
[10:37] <theacolyte> http://pastebin.ca/702389
[10:37] <theacolyte> why won't it replace the deleted config file
[10:37] <theacolyte> i'm in some kind of retarded dbconfig loop
[10:37] <wasabi> Because dpkg doesn't do that.
[10:37] <theacolyte> Ok, so how can I fix this?
[10:38] <wasabi> Deleting a config file is a change that should be preserved.
[10:38] <wasabi> Just like altering a config file.
[10:38] <wasabi> Pass --force-confmiss to dpkg.
[10:39] <theacolyte> I'm not sure what dpkg that's an option for, it doesn't seem to work for dpkg-reconfigure
[10:40] <wasabi> dpkg itself.
[10:40] <wasabi> It's described in the man page.
[10:42] <theacolyte> ok well maybe I'm missing something here
[10:42] <theacolyte> If I do a dpkg --force-confmiss packagename, it says it needs an action
[10:42] <wasabi> uh huh. -i
[10:42] <wasabi> Something to install.
[10:43] <theacolyte> if I do a dpkg packagename --force-confmiss, it says I need an action
[10:43] <wasabi> You aren't trying to tell dpkg to fix your config file. You're trying to tell it to reinstall a given .deb file, replacing missing config files.
[10:44] <theacolyte> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:44] <wasabi> I have no idea what dbconfig is, though.
[10:45] <theacolyte> Replacing config file /etc/cacti/debian.php with new version
[10:45] <theacolyte> Not replacing deleted config file /etc/cacti/apache.conf
[10:45] <theacolyte> awesome.
[10:46] <theacolyte> at this point I could have just reinstalled ubuntu-server faster
[10:46] <theacolyte> I foolishly assumed that mysql would use a root password from the get-go =/
[10:48] <theacolyte> yup
[10:48] <theacolyte> just gonna reload it
[10:48] <theacolyte> this is silly
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[10:54] <nealmcb> theacolyte: I recall a mysql bug report and much discussion about the difficulties of dealing securely and clearly with root pws....
[10:55] <nealmcb> IIRC upstream was going to make some changes
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[11:22] <SuperLag> nealmcb: you get an answer to your JeOS question? or have you found it on your own, yet?
[11:35] <theacolyte> nealmcb: ahh interesting
[11:47] <theacolyte> Actually I did get it to work once I walked away. Did an apt-get remove cacti, dpkg --purge cacti, reinstalled using apt-get, and configured the db manually
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[11:52] <m12> hello
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