| joebob777as7 | in edubuntu... i thought it was in /etc/pam.d/common-password but it says min=4 and i still can't create a password that is 5 chars... it says it needs 6? | 12:52 |
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| JordanC | Hmm | 12:57 |
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| moquist | Ugh. My Windows have no borders in this new gutsy system (via dist-upgrade from feisty). I'm going back to ion2. | 01:32 |
| moquist | I campitalized "windows". What's wrong with me? :p | 01:32 |
| joebob777as7 | moquist, if you want compiz go to #compiz-fusion and type !windowdecorations if you just want your borders back open a terminal (console) and type metacity --replace | 01:35 |
| moquist | joebob777as7: I'll remember that, but I'll just stick with ion2 for now. Using gnome was going to be a sacrifice, anyway. :) | 01:50 |
| moquist | joebob777as7: and thx | 01:50 |
| sbalneav | Arrrgh! | 02:09 |
| moquist | sbalneav: yeah, tell me about it. :( | 02:10 |
| sbalneav | WHAT HAPPENED TO GNOME TERMINAL!?!?! | 02:10 |
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| sbalneav | Wow I've seen a lot of messed up breakage in my day | 02:11 |
| sbalneav | but this is crackalicious | 02:11 |
| moquist | I just installed feisty-server, upgraded to gutsy, and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. My windows had no borders. | 02:12 |
| moquist | sbalneav: I sympathize. | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | Gnome terminal launches with fonts | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | 1 pixel high | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | 1 pixel wide. | 02:12 |
| moquist | wheeee!</tiny voice> | 02:12 |
| sbalneav | I mean, I'm all in favour of being able to get more terminals on the scren | 02:13 |
| sbalneav | but this is rediculous :) | 02:13 |
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| sbalneav | Gonna try a reboot | 02:42 |
| sbalneav | back in a seconds | 02:42 |
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| sbalneav | Thank heavens | 02:44 |
| sbalneav | that was terrifying | 02:44 |
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| cliebow | heh!!\ | 02:53 |
| sbalneav | A hacker without a terminal is like, err, Sonny without Cher. | 02:59 |
| sbalneav | Like a dog without a bone. | 02:59 |
| sbalneav | Like Stan without Oliver | 02:59 |
| sbalneav | YOU KIHN TAKE MAH GUN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE MAH TERMIN'L FROM MAH COL', DEAD HANDS!!! | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | or, something like that. | 03:00 |
| jsgotangco | I'M IN YUR TRMINAL, HACKIN YUR SISTEM | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | ogra: cjwatson says he'll take a patch | 03:06 |
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| sbalneav | I'll take a beer. | 03:12 |
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| joebob777as7 | sbalneav, did you find the fix? | 03:45 |
| joebob777as7 | if not i'll link you if you want | 03:45 |
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| joebob777as7 | I have two different versions of wine installed so i can use apps for all future created users... it looks like /home/wine and i want to create a launcher for "/home/wine /home/wine/ie.exe" how do i add that shortcut to my desktop? | 03:49 |
| kgoetz | joebob777as7: right click -> create launcher | 03:54 |
| joebob777as7 | kgoetz, i did that but i can't type where the location is of the file if i do that because it won't except a directory at the beginning of the launcher... | 03:56 |
| kgoetz | joebob777as7: i the command bit, you want /path/to/wine/binary /path/to/app/you/want | 03:57 |
| kgoetz | iirc | 03:57 |
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| yotux | how do i install software on the main system? | 04:04 |
| yotux | I ssh to the main system and /etc/apt/sources.list only has the cdrom in it | 04:05 |
| sbalneav | yotux: you're wanting to install from the internet? | 04:07 |
| yotux | yes | 04:07 |
| yotux | I want to add nvidia-glx to /opt/ltsp/i386 | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | ah. | 04:07 |
| sbalneav | You didn't say in the chroot. Thought you meant the main box. | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | Simplest is: | 04:08 |
| yotux | yes sorry | 04:08 |
| yotux | at the moment I have ssh into the server | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | 04:08 |
| yotux | chroot . /bin/bash | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | apt-get update | 04:08 |
| yotux | ok | 04:08 |
| sbalneav | then install as you like. | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | might want to mount /proc as well in the chroot | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | do a /mount -t proc proc /proc | 04:09 |
| sbalneav | remember to umount it before you exit the chroot. | 04:09 |
| yotux | I get a kernel error | 04:11 |
| yotux | I have installed nvidia-glx with normal ubuntu and ltsp | 04:11 |
| yotux | Depends: linux-restricted-modules-common but it is not going to be installed | 04:12 |
| yotux | anyone have any ideas? | 04:12 |
| joebob777as7 | kgoetz, I made a launcher that says /home/wine/wine "/home/.wine/Internet\ Explorer/IEXPLORER.EXE" and when i use it nothing happens... | 04:18 |
| joebob777as7 | but i can type in /home/wine/wine /home/.wine/Internet\ Explorer/IEXPLORER.EXE and it works fine | 04:18 |
| sbalneav | so, do an apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-common | 04:18 |
| joebob777as7 | sbalneav, just a heads up that for whatever reason two installs in a row lts.conf isn't being installed in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386.conf or the amd64 dir | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | By default, it won't be. | 04:26 |
| sbalneav | Most things autoconfigure nicely | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | so by default, we just let the defaults work :) | 04:27 |
| joebob777as7 | oh ok... confusing | 04:28 |
| joebob777as7 | sbalneav, why is it assigning my client the amd64 image when in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf i tell it to take image from i386 dir? http://pastebin.ca/702795 | 04:32 |
| joebob777as7 | in the daemon.log it says that it assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img | 04:33 |
| sbalneav | It doesn't actually do that from the dhcpd for nbd | 04:36 |
| sbalneav | I think you have to use kernel command line options, in the pxe config dir | 04:37 |
| sbalneav | hold on.... | 04:37 |
| joebob777as7 | oh is that the /etc/inetd.conf? there is always a build problem with that when adding more than one architecture... | 04:38 |
| sbalneav | Right. What problem? | 04:38 |
| sbalneav | set nbdroot=hostip:port | 04:39 |
| sbalneav | on the kernel command line. | 04:39 |
| joebob777as7 | the console will hang half the time and it says that the port is already in use if it does finish... i just forgot to go remove the port line and rebuild image... so it will do it right... | 04:40 |
| sbalneav | Shouldn't need to do that. Could you file a bug, please? That way we can get it fixed for gutsy. | 04:41 |
| joebob777as7 | what do i say for package name? this time i went in and changed inetd.conf from amd64.img to i386.img and it didn't work it still passes the amd64.img to it. I gues i have to remove that entire line and rebuild client image... | 04:43 |
| sbalneav | ltsp-server | 04:45 |
| joebob777as7 | also after i install updates on the server should i rebuild the image? | 04:45 |
| sbalneav | Only if you install updates in the chroot | 04:46 |
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| LaserJock | sbalneav: you here? | 05:24 |
| joebob777as7 | sbalneav, if i want to install a bunch of fonts for my clients how would i do that? | 05:28 |
| joebob777as7 | do i just chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 then install like normal? | 05:30 |
| joebob777as7 | and rebuild image? | 05:30 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: Hey | 05:32 |
| sbalneav | joebob777as7: yes | 05:32 |
| joebob777as7 | ok cool thanks | 05:36 |
| joebob777as7 | sbalneav, just posted to bug 138204 looks like this is supposed to be fixed? or is what I posted a seperate issue? | 05:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138204 in ltsp "ltsp-build-client and ltsp-update-image fails if inetd.conf is not cleared" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138204 | 05:37 |
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| RichEd | evening small 'roo icon | 10:35 |
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| `6og | RichEd, hi :) | 11:07 |
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| RichEd | hi ogra ... connection problems ? | 01:40 |
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| ogra | nope | 01:40 |
| ogra | upgrade | 01:40 |
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| RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 15 mins | 01:47 |
| `6og | eek. how long will it be for? | 01:47 |
| RichEd | `6og: prolly around an hour ... i have a phone call at 3:00 from russia | 01:51 |
| `6og | i can come for some of the meeting. i may have to bail. we'll see | 01:52 |
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| RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 5 mins | 01:56 |
| RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === now | 02:02 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:14 |
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| `6og | bddebian, hi | 03:25 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:50 |
| RichEd | hi sbalneav | 03:50 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Hey, made a patch last night to configure-x.sh | 03:56 |
| sbalneav | If the autoconfig fails, it spits a message to the log now, and I've added X_OPTION handling. | 03:56 |
| sbalneav | RichEd: Sorry I missed the meeting. I miss anything exciting? | 03:58 |
| RichEd | not too much :) | 03:58 |
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| ArmedKing | Hey guys, I'm a Ubuntu user trying to find a distro for my kids. Does Edubuntu come with parental control fuctionality ie. porn blocker? | 04:16 |
| sbalneav | It doesn't ship with one, but dansguardian is an installable package. | 04:17 |
| ArmedKing | sbalneav: Oke tnx a lot i'll give it a go then. Cause i dont want my 9 year old browsing that stuff haha. Sinds i cant allways be around the computer | 04:19 |
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| sbalneav | Hey ogra! | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | You in or out? :) | 04:27 |
| ogra | yo | 04:27 |
| ogra | fighting with nm or my usb wlan driver | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | Hey, made some patches to configure-x.sh last night. | 04:27 |
| ogra | not sure which one misbehaves here | 04:27 |
| ogra | saw that | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | added a syslog event if the autoconfigure fails | 04:27 |
| ogra | what about -docs ? | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | and the X_OPTION stuff | 04:27 |
| ogra | i thought laser wanted to upload | 04:27 |
| sbalneav | Ah, right. | 04:27 |
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| sbalneav | What do we want to say for that? | 04:28 |
| ogra | X_EXTRA_OPTION ? | 04:28 |
| ogra | X_DRIVER_OPTION ? | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | X_OPTION_01 | 04:28 |
| ogra | X_DRIVER_EXTRA ? | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | X_OPTION_02 | 04:28 |
| ogra | yeah, sounds ok | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | etc. | 04:28 |
| sbalneav | You wanted something else in the docs though... | 04:28 |
| ogra | only a fix of the server sizing doc | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | ok, what would you like in there? | 04:29 |
| ogra | shold say "128M per running session" | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | I should check and see | 04:30 |
| ogra | 256 + (60 * users) MB | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | if they've branched off from main yet. | 04:30 |
| ogra | thats what it says atm | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | ok, I'll fix | 04:30 |
| ogra | # The Edubuntu Handbook | 04:30 |
| ogra | # Edubuntu Server and Thin Client Computing | 04:30 |
| ogra | # Hardware Requirements | 04:30 |
| ogra | is the section | 04:30 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: you around? | 04:30 |
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| sbalneav | I'll make it in upstream, worst I'll just have to re-fix in the branch | 04:31 |
| sbalneav | Ok, pushing changes now. | 04:41 |
| sbalneav | done. | 04:42 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: Does the configure-x.sh patch seem worthwhile to you? | 05:12 |
| ogra | sure | 05:12 |
| ogra | i need an upload anyway for meas-dri and the change of the mkelf/mknbi deps | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | What panned out for the mesa-dri? We have enough room? | 05:15 |
| ogra | no, but we'll have to make it | 05:15 |
| ogra | it needs to be there for edubuntu-desktop | 05:16 |
| ogra | we cant just ignore an ubuntu feature | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | What would we drop? | 05:16 |
| ogra | and edubuntu must not block technology in ltsp either | 05:16 |
| ogra | lets wait for ubuntu to start dropping things and then see how much we have left in oversizedness | 05:17 |
| ogra | i just heard that there might be some changes in font stuff that might free up stuff | 05:17 |
| ogra | i will also drop about 10M (uncompressed) icons from edubuntu-artwork | 05:17 |
| ogra | not sure how much thats compressed though, but should be some extra MB | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | ok, cool. | 05:18 |
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| shriphani | does edubuntu do an express cd shipping ? | 06:11 |
| ogra | no | 06:12 |
| shriphani | I have only 1 and it doesn't work on this lappy of mine... | 06:12 |
| shriphani | i have 5 6.06 cds... shouldn't conduct a presentation with that...... I'll ask the cyber cafe to download an image for me. | 06:13 |
| ogra | get 7.04 then | 06:15 |
| shriphani | a school called back and said they are not interested....... | 06:18 |
| shriphani | another hasn't bothered to reply...... | 06:18 |
| shriphani | problem is that the more forward thinking schools here already are involved in a love affair with microsoft, the others hesitate to let kids lay hands on boxes...... | 06:19 |
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| LaserJock | sbalneav: am now | 06:37 |
| ogra_ | LaserJock, what were the plans for -docs ? | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | just gotta get them uploaded | 06:38 |
| ogra_ | sbalneav has one fix | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | ogra_: btw, I made a patch for debian-cd for icon and colin has applied it ;-) | 06:38 |
| ogra_ | coool | 06:38 |
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| LaserJock | so, I think I'm one upload of edubuntu-addon-meta away from having the spec done | 06:39 |
| ogra_ | pitti said if the edu team takes security responsibility he's fine wit moodle btw | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | ok | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | are we up for that? :-) | 06:41 |
| ogra_ | sure | 06:41 |
| ogra_ | he just needs to approve | 06:41 |
| ogra_ | and then i need space | 06:42 |
| ogra_ | lots of space i dont know where to take it from | 06:42 |
| ogra_ | openoffice with a fix was uploaded today | 06:42 |
| ogra_ | that should drop ~12M from the CD | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | good | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | moodle is quite large | 06:42 |
| ogra_ | i added mesa-dri though | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | are you wanting to put moodle on the Addon Cd or the 1st CD? | 06:43 |
| ogra_ | so we have compiz by default now but 16M more to ct off | 06:43 |
| ogra_ | 1st | 06:43 |
| ogra_ | i want it as dep of edubuntu-server | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, well, I then what about shifting the remaining edu stuff to the Addon CD? | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | s/I// | 06:43 |
| ogra_ | which ? | 06:43 |
| ogra_ | we dont have much left :) | 06:44 |
| ogra_ | apparently the new font guy we have has some good ideas that might shove off 16M :) | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | atomix, gpaint, denemo, xaos, kino, scribus, and dia-gnome are all additional right? | 06:46 |
| ogra_ | yep | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | they are in the desktop seed | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | could those be shifted? | 06:46 |
| ogra_ | well, i doubt they make more than 2m | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | and would it make much of a difference/ | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | ok, yeah, I wondered | 06:46 |
| ogra_ | scribus pulls in QT though | 06:46 |
| ogra_ | but with adding italc in hardy we need qt anyway on the first CD | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | we need a list of packages, sorted by size :-) | 06:47 |
| ogra_ | i have a small script i use to get size | 06:47 |
| ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37929/ | 06:48 |
| ogra_ | just give it a list of packages | 06:48 |
| ogra_ | for detailed stuff and deps you need germinate indeed | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | oh, turns out my USB stick is only 1GB :( | 06:50 |
| ogra_ | gah | 06:50 |
| ogra_ | a 2G one costs only 15-20 | 06:50 |
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| LaserJock | yeah, I'm gonna have to pick one up | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | the CMPC is a good excuse ;-) | 06:51 |
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| sbalneav | LaserJock: Sorry, was out for a bit. I made a patch to the docs, but i made it to the "upstream" branch. Have we branched off for gutsy yet? | 07:45 |
| sbalneav | or is a sync possible | 07:45 |
| sbalneav | Help me Laser-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. | 07:45 |
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| LaserJock | sbalneav: I haven't heard anything about branching | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | yet | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: so you're reasonably happy with the handbook? | 07:54 |
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| sbalneav | LaserJock: Yep | 08:01 |
| sbalneav | Happy happy | 08:01 |
| sbalneav | You happy? | 08:01 |
| ogra | RichEd, meh, i have no 1600x1200 version of the final wallpaper from jill | 08:04 |
| ogra | biggest i got is 1024x768 grmbl | 08:04 |
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| yotux | how do I enable thin clients to be able to use usb locally a t their workstation | 09:00 |
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| sbalneav | yotux: It should be enabled by default | 09:09 |
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| L1oX | jaja no pense que hubiera tanta gente | 10:17 |
| L1oX | kik | 10:17 |
| L1oX | No hay gente de slp (H) | 10:17 |
| L1oX | lol | 10:17 |
| L1oX | xD | 10:19 |
| L1oX | jajajajaj | 10:19 |
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| yotux | how can I allow thin clients to usb USB devices | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | yotux: what version of Edubuntu are you using? | 10:40 |
| yotux | fiesty | 10:40 |
| yotux | 7.04 | 10:40 |
| stgraber | what do you mean by USB devices ? | 10:47 |
| stgraber | For mass storage you can read : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices | 10:48 |
| sbalneav | yotux: As I said before, it's enabled by default. | 10:50 |
| sbalneav | Is it not working for you? | 10:50 |
| L1oX | chanel it's english xD | 10:50 |
| L1oX | lol..! | 10:50 |
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| sbalneav | Headin' home. Be on tonight. | 11:25 |
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