[12:52] in edubuntu... i thought it was in /etc/pam.d/common-password but it says min=4 and i still can't create a password that is 5 chars... it says it needs 6? [12:57] Hmm === kslawson [n=admin@outasiwant.w.midcoast.com] has joined #edubuntu === kslawson_ [n=admin@kslawson.w.midcoast.com] has joined #edubuntu === moquist [n=moquist@pool-70-109-151-8.cncdnh.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:32] Ugh. My Windows have no borders in this new gutsy system (via dist-upgrade from feisty). I'm going back to ion2. [01:32] I campitalized "windows". What's wrong with me? :p [01:35] moquist, if you want compiz go to #compiz-fusion and type !windowdecorations if you just want your borders back open a terminal (console) and type metacity --replace [01:50] joebob777as7: I'll remember that, but I'll just stick with ion2 for now. Using gnome was going to be a sacrifice, anyway. :) [01:50] joebob777as7: and thx [02:09] Arrrgh! [02:10] sbalneav: yeah, tell me about it. :( [02:10] WHAT HAPPENED TO GNOME TERMINAL!?!?! === sbalneav weeps inconsoleantly [02:11] Wow I've seen a lot of messed up breakage in my day [02:11] but this is crackalicious [02:12] I just installed feisty-server, upgraded to gutsy, and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. My windows had no borders. [02:12] sbalneav: I sympathize. [02:12] Gnome terminal launches with fonts [02:12] 1 pixel high [02:12] 1 pixel wide. [02:12] wheeee! [02:13] I mean, I'm all in favour of being able to get more terminals on the scren [02:13] but this is rediculous :) === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [02:42] Gonna try a reboot [02:42] back in a seconds === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:44] Thank heavens [02:44] that was terrifying === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [n=ubuntu@166-82-170-77.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:53] heh!!\ [02:59] A hacker without a terminal is like, err, Sonny without Cher. [02:59] Like a dog without a bone. [02:59] Like Stan without Oliver [03:00] YOU KIHN TAKE MAH GUN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE MAH TERMIN'L FROM MAH COL', DEAD HANDS!!! [03:00] or, something like that. [03:03] I'M IN YUR TRMINAL, HACKIN YUR SISTEM [03:03] heh [03:06] ogra: cjwatson says he'll take a patch === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] I'll take a beer. === pauljw [n=paul@pool213.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:45] sbalneav, did you find the fix? [03:45] if not i'll link you if you want === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [03:49] I have two different versions of wine installed so i can use apps for all future created users... it looks like /home/wine and i want to create a launcher for "/home/wine /home/wine/ie.exe" how do i add that shortcut to my desktop? [03:54] joebob777as7: right click -> create launcher [03:56] kgoetz, i did that but i can't type where the location is of the file if i do that because it won't except a directory at the beginning of the launcher... [03:57] joebob777as7: i the command bit, you want /path/to/wine/binary /path/to/app/you/want [03:57] iirc === yotux [n=yotux@24-183-63-49.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] how do i install software on the main system? [04:05] I ssh to the main system and /etc/apt/sources.list only has the cdrom in it [04:07] yotux: you're wanting to install from the internet? [04:07] yes [04:07] I want to add nvidia-glx to /opt/ltsp/i386 [04:07] ah. [04:08] You didn't say in the chroot. Thought you meant the main box. [04:08] Simplest is: [04:08] yes sorry [04:08] at the moment I have ssh into the server [04:08] cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list [04:08] chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 [04:08] chroot . /bin/bash [04:08] apt-get update [04:08] ok [04:09] then install as you like. [04:09] might want to mount /proc as well in the chroot [04:09] do a /mount -t proc proc /proc [04:09] remember to umount it before you exit the chroot. [04:11] I get a kernel error [04:11] I have installed nvidia-glx with normal ubuntu and ltsp [04:12] Depends: linux-restricted-modules-common but it is not going to be installed [04:12] anyone have any ideas? [04:18] kgoetz, I made a launcher that says /home/wine/wine "/home/.wine/Internet\ Explorer/IEXPLORER.EXE" and when i use it nothing happens... [04:18] but i can type in /home/wine/wine /home/.wine/Internet\ Explorer/IEXPLORER.EXE and it works fine [04:18] so, do an apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-common [04:26] sbalneav, just a heads up that for whatever reason two installs in a row lts.conf isn't being installed in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386.conf or the amd64 dir [04:26] By default, it won't be. [04:27] Most things autoconfigure nicely [04:27] so by default, we just let the defaults work :) [04:28] oh ok... confusing [04:32] sbalneav, why is it assigning my client the amd64 image when in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf i tell it to take image from i386 dir? http://pastebin.ca/702795 [04:33] in the daemon.log it says that it assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img [04:36] It doesn't actually do that from the dhcpd for nbd [04:37] I think you have to use kernel command line options, in the pxe config dir [04:37] hold on.... [04:38] oh is that the /etc/inetd.conf? there is always a build problem with that when adding more than one architecture... [04:38] Right. What problem? [04:39] set nbdroot=hostip:port [04:39] on the kernel command line. [04:40] the console will hang half the time and it says that the port is already in use if it does finish... i just forgot to go remove the port line and rebuild image... so it will do it right... [04:41] Shouldn't need to do that. Could you file a bug, please? That way we can get it fixed for gutsy. [04:43] what do i say for package name? this time i went in and changed inetd.conf from amd64.img to i386.img and it didn't work it still passes the amd64.img to it. I gues i have to remove that entire line and rebuild client image... [04:45] ltsp-server [04:45] also after i install updates on the server should i rebuild the image? [04:46] Only if you install updates in the chroot === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu [05:24] sbalneav: you here? [05:28] sbalneav, if i want to install a bunch of fonts for my clients how would i do that? [05:30] do i just chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 then install like normal? [05:30] and rebuild image? [05:32] LaserJock: Hey [05:32] joebob777as7: yes [05:36] ok cool thanks [05:37] sbalneav, just posted to bug 138204 looks like this is supposed to be fixed? or is what I posted a seperate issue? 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[01:51] `6og: prolly around an hour ... i have a phone call at 3:00 from russia [01:52] <`6og> i can come for some of the meeting. i may have to bail. we'll see === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.46] has joined #edubuntu [01:56] === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 5 mins [02:02] === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === now === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === kslawson [n=admin@pro.crhs.sad28.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === joojle [n=ca1c2f0b@207.250.49.24] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gta@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === TelnetManta [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === kslawson_ [n=admin@pro.crhs.sad28.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-164-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:14] Heya === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] <`6og> bddebian, hi === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [n=boyam@208.104.11.156] has joined #edubuntu === pusakat [i=xenos@born.free.net.ph] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [03:50] Morning all [03:50] hi sbalneav [03:56] ogra: Hey, made a patch last night to configure-x.sh [03:56] If the autoconfig fails, it spits a message to the log now, and I've added X_OPTION handling. [03:58] RichEd: Sorry I missed the meeting. I miss anything exciting? [03:58] not too much :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === ArmedKing [n=king@cable-213-34-254-129.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu [04:16] Hey guys, I'm a Ubuntu user trying to find a distro for my kids. Does Edubuntu come with parental control fuctionality ie. porn blocker? [04:17] It doesn't ship with one, but dansguardian is an installable package. [04:19] sbalneav: Oke tnx a lot i'll give it a go then. Cause i dont want my 9 year old browsing that stuff haha. Sinds i cant allways be around the computer === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] Hey ogra! [04:27] You in or out? :) [04:27] yo [04:27] fighting with nm or my usb wlan driver [04:27] Hey, made some patches to configure-x.sh last night. [04:27] not sure which one misbehaves here [04:27] saw that [04:27] added a syslog event if the autoconfigure fails [04:27] what about -docs ? [04:27] and the X_OPTION stuff [04:27] i thought laser wanted to upload [04:27] Ah, right. === ArmedKing [n=king@cable-213-34-254-129.zeelandnet.nl] has left #edubuntu ["Ik] [04:28] What do we want to say for that? [04:28] X_EXTRA_OPTION ? [04:28] X_DRIVER_OPTION ? [04:28] X_OPTION_01 [04:28] X_DRIVER_EXTRA ? [04:28] X_OPTION_02 [04:28] yeah, sounds ok [04:28] etc. [04:28] You wanted something else in the docs though... [04:29] only a fix of the server sizing doc [04:29] ok, what would you like in there? [04:29] shold say "128M per running session" [04:30] I should check and see [04:30] 256 + (60 * users) MB [04:30] if they've branched off from main yet. [04:30] thats what it says atm [04:30] ok, I'll fix [04:30] # The Edubuntu Handbook [04:30] # Edubuntu Server and Thin Client Computing [04:30] # Hardware Requirements [04:30] is the section [04:30] LaserJock: you around? === ogra guesses he's not up yet [04:31] I'll make it in upstream, worst I'll just have to re-fix in the branch [04:41] Ok, pushing changes now. [04:42] done. === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #edubuntu === monteslu [n=monteslu@ip68-109-171-73.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:12] ogra: Does the configure-x.sh patch seem worthwhile to you? [05:12] sure [05:14] i need an upload anyway for meas-dri and the change of the mkelf/mknbi deps [05:15] What panned out for the mesa-dri? We have enough room? [05:15] no, but we'll have to make it [05:16] it needs to be there for edubuntu-desktop [05:16] we cant just ignore an ubuntu feature [05:16] What would we drop? [05:16] and edubuntu must not block technology in ltsp either [05:17] lets wait for ubuntu to start dropping things and then see how much we have left in oversizedness [05:17] i just heard that there might be some changes in font stuff that might free up stuff [05:17] i will also drop about 10M (uncompressed) icons from edubuntu-artwork [05:18] not sure how much thats compressed though, but should be some extra MB [05:18] ok, cool. === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.244.152] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === charlie_21 [n=charlie@16.sub-75-193-144.myvzw.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:11] does edubuntu do an express cd shipping ? [06:12] no [06:12] I have only 1 and it doesn't work on this lappy of mine... [06:13] i have 5 6.06 cds... shouldn't conduct a presentation with that...... I'll ask the cyber cafe to download an image for me. [06:15] get 7.04 then [06:18] a school called back and said they are not interested....... [06:18] another hasn't bothered to reply...... [06:19] problem is that the more forward thinking schools here already are involved in a love affair with microsoft, the others hesitate to let kids lay hands on boxes...... === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548ACCC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:37] sbalneav: am now [06:38] LaserJock, what were the plans for -docs ? [06:38] just gotta get them uploaded [06:38] sbalneav has one fix [06:38] ogra_: btw, I made a patch for debian-cd for icon and colin has applied it ;-) [06:38] coool === ogra_ still fiddles with -artwork but should be done today [06:39] so, I think I'm one upload of edubuntu-addon-meta away from having the spec done [06:40] pitti said if the edu team takes security responsibility he's fine wit moodle btw [06:40] ok [06:41] are we up for that? :-) [06:41] sure [06:41] he just needs to approve [06:42] and then i need space [06:42] lots of space i dont know where to take it from [06:42] openoffice with a fix was uploaded today [06:42] that should drop ~12M from the CD [06:42] good [06:42] moodle is quite large [06:42] i added mesa-dri though [06:43] are you wanting to put moodle on the Addon Cd or the 1st CD? [06:43] so we have compiz by default now but 16M more to ct off [06:43] 1st [06:43] i want it as dep of edubuntu-server [06:43] ok, well, I then what about shifting the remaining edu stuff to the Addon CD? [06:43] s/I// [06:43] which ? [06:44] we dont have much left :) [06:45] apparently the new font guy we have has some good ideas that might shove off 16M :) [06:46] atomix, gpaint, denemo, xaos, kino, scribus, and dia-gnome are all additional right? [06:46] yep [06:46] they are in the desktop seed [06:46] could those be shifted? [06:46] well, i doubt they make more than 2m [06:46] and would it make much of a difference/ [06:46] ok, yeah, I wondered [06:46] scribus pulls in QT though [06:47] but with adding italc in hardy we need qt anyway on the first CD [06:47] we need a list of packages, sorted by size :-) [06:47] i have a small script i use to get size [06:48] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37929/ [06:48] just give it a list of packages [06:48] for detailed stuff and deps you need germinate indeed [06:50] oh, turns out my USB stick is only 1GB :( [06:50] gah [06:50] a 2G one costs only 15-20 === ogra_ is now known as ogra [06:51] yeah, I'm gonna have to pick one up [06:51] the CMPC is a good excuse ;-) === ogra has 10 lying around now ... === joetheodd [n=joe@dpc674776052.direcpc.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:45] LaserJock: Sorry, was out for a bit. I made a patch to the docs, but i made it to the "upstream" branch. Have we branched off for gutsy yet? [07:45] or is a sync possible [07:45] Help me Laser-wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-77-212.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as ubuntu-laptop [07:53] sbalneav: I haven't heard anything about branching [07:53] yet [07:54] sbalneav: so you're reasonably happy with the handbook? === ubuntu-laptop [n=ubuntu-l@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === ananas [n=ananas-m@xdslcb011.osnanet.de] has joined #edubuntu [08:01] LaserJock: Yep [08:01] Happy happy [08:01] You happy? [08:04] RichEd, meh, i have no 1600x1200 version of the final wallpaper from jill [08:04] biggest i got is 1024x768 grmbl === Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === JordanC [n=MasterPl@host86-130-148-93.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === jessejazza [n=chatzill@host86-132-74-116.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === yotux [n=nathan@24-183-63-49.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:00] how do I enable thin clients to be able to use usb locally a t their workstation === yotux [n=nathan@24-183-63-49.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === yotux [n=nathan@24-183-63-49.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A9534E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:09] yotux: It should be enabled by default === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === kslawson [n=admin@pro.crhs.sad28.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-175-248.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === [1] Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #edubuntu === [1] Netham45 is now known as Netham45 === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-59-09.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === [1] Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === [2] Netham45 [n=Netham45@71.237.75.180] has joined #edubuntu === nubae [n=nubae@10.Red-88-8-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu [] === tck [n=tck@212.2.177.22] has joined #edubuntu === L1oX [n=DSDS@189.167.39.77] has joined #edubuntu [10:17] jaja no pense que hubiera tanta gente [10:17] kik [10:17] No hay gente de slp (H) [10:17] lol [10:19] xD [10:19] jajajajaj === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [10:39] how can I allow thin clients to usb USB devices [10:40] yotux: what version of Edubuntu are you using? [10:40] fiesty [10:40] 7.04 [10:47] what do you mean by USB devices ? [10:48] For mass storage you can read : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices [10:50] yotux: As I said before, it's enabled by default. [10:50] Is it not working for you? [10:50] chanel it's english xD [10:50] lol..! === PriceChild is now known as PriceGuy [11:25] Headin' home. Be on tonight. === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host104-235-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #edubuntu === jake111 [n=chatzill@ia-nw-dhcp4-151.dsl.hickorytech.net] has joined #edubuntu