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ugalewix, type "exit"12:37
stdin"logout", "exit" or Ctrl-D12:37
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lewixI dit12:38
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lewixuga, i wanna log out out of my session from the cmd line12:38
ugalewix, yes, exit should do12:38
stdinyou mean KDE session?12:38
lewixuga, exit just close the cmd line12:38
networkgameri got a gparted question:can i unmount the partition on a drive with linux installed,move it,and mount it again safely while in the linux installed on said drive?12:38
lewixstdin, exactly12:38
ugalol12:38
ugalewix, some dcop call to kdm possibly, but I can't tell right now12:39
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ugaI'd need to make this machine work and check dcop first ;)12:39
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lewixstdin, as I said I have trouble with my GUI. it wouldn't let me turn off,restart or log out properly. It hangs out and the screen goes dark. the only way is from the cmd line12:39
MinatakuI hope those fuses arrive tomorrow... I'd like to get that laptop back together before I completely forget how to put it back together12:40
Minatakulol12:40
siliconcpucould someone perhaps link me to a work solution with the bcm4318 broadcom cards?12:40
stdin!wifi12:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:40
lewixuga, thanks though.12:40
ugalewix, check dcop information in google12:40
ardchoillelewix: ctrl+alt+backspace ?12:40
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ugalewix, you'll need to access kdm's dcop interface and call some logout method12:40
ugaif you want to do taht from terminal12:41
siliconcpuubutu - do u have a broadcom card?>12:41
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stdin!bot12:41
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:41
siliconcpu=P12:41
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siliconcpubot is pretty useful :)12:41
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lewixuga, easy to say :)12:42
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sportbillyi want some help with kxdocker12:43
siliconcpuanyone familiar with ndiswrapper?12:43
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ugalewix, run kdcop12:43
ederhi i have a problem whit the shap am 900 in kubunto12:43
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ugalewix, you'll see all interfaces applications have12:44
ugaone of them will belong to the kdm interface12:44
hydrogenkdm doesn't have a dcop interface12:44
ugahydrogen, doesn't it????12:44
sportbillyi found it on adept i have installed it and when i tried to open it through konsole but it crashes12:44
hydrogenno, it doesn't.12:44
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ugahydrogen, what does have session logout interfaces then. kdesktop? I know I've seen them12:44
ugakicker maybe?12:44
hydrogenno idea12:45
ugauhm... I wish I could check right now, but dcop doesn't run very well under XP ;))12:45
stdinlewix: "dcop ksmserver ksmserver 0 0 0" will log you out12:45
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: i have a broadcom card.12:45
scheater5stdin: did some research on that TI chip Archos uses - "systems-on-chips (SoCs) tailored from DSP and ARM cores" - that mean anything to you?12:46
siliconcpuscorpking, got any advice?12:46
lewixuga, didnt find kdesktop12:46
siliconcpucause I can't even get the ndiswrap to compile and install12:46
lewixstdin, thanks. how did you figure this out12:46
siliconcpuit gives me a bunch of errors and doesn't create the directories properly12:46
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: what's wrong? driver not loaded?12:46
stdinlewix: by looking at all the dcop commands and seeing what works :p12:46
ugalewix, well, iirc ksmserver is the process that starts kde at the end12:46
siliconcpuI think the biggest prob is the ndiswrapper.  I can't get the directions to follow through.12:46
stdinscheater5: i think that means it's some custom chip12:47
siliconcpuscorpking, hold on I will give you more details12:47
lewixno such function12:47
stdinsiliconcpu: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty ?12:47
scheater5stdin: o joyous...so then any other OS would have to be ported to that specific chip?12:47
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stdinscheater5: maybe, unless it works with some "generic" calls12:48
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stdinlewix: in a term, what does "dcop ksmserver ksmserver" show (pastebin)12:49
coreymon77can anyone here give me some help with the netatalk (appletalk for linux) package?12:49
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stdinlewix: or just tell me if you see "void logout(int,int,int)"12:49
lewixI see it, should I just call it stdin12:49
siliconcpuwhen I type "make distclean" I keep getting errors that say "loadndisdriver.c" errors12:50
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siliconcpuanyone familiar with those?12:50
lewixstdin,where did you get the dcop command12:50
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: what does dmesg | tail say?12:50
stdinlewix: once you find out about dcop, you learn how to use it ;)12:50
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siliconcpuScorpKing - a lot of errors for bcm43xx12:51
siliconcpunot available or load failed12:51
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coreymon77siliconcpu: what card?12:51
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: i had the same problem. just looking for the links. one sec...12:51
siliconcpubroadcom 413812:51
siliconcpu*431812:51
stdinlewix: "void logout(int,int,int)" means that it takes 3 arguments, all integers (whole numbers), so I tried "dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0" on another account and it logged it out12:52
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty12:52
ugastdin, but then you were missing the method name, right?12:52
uga"logout"12:52
uganot jsut 0 0 012:52
siliconcpuis the support for ubuntu the same as kubuntu?12:52
ScorpKingyes12:52
coreymon77yes12:53
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siliconcpuis it safe to say apt-get is useless without an internet connection?12:53
stdinuga: "dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0"  < see the "logout" part?12:53
coreymon77ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for their dekstop managers12:53
coreymon77siliconcpu: no12:53
coreymon77siliconcpu: there are cd repositories12:53
ugastdin, uh. that must be a new add-on ;)12:53
siliconcpuhmm12:53
stdinuga: ahh, the  1st time, yes12:53
coreymon77siliconcpu: but, whats the matter with your internet?12:54
siliconcpucoreymon - could i get stuff from the cd?12:54
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ugastdin, I can't read much backlog, maybe I missed some comment. I'm running the desktop in minimal gfx mode ;)12:54
siliconcpuwell, for some reason my ethernet card doesn't respond to a cable + active connection12:54
siliconcpuneither does the wireless12:54
siliconcpuso i've been trying to fix this issue, but it's hard if you aren't online to use sudi apt-get12:54
siliconcpu*sudo12:54
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coreymon77siliconcpu: okay12:55
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: there is one package with the firmware. just download and install it.12:55
coreymon77lets figure this out12:55
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coreymon77ah, i see, you are talking to us from ta windows box12:56
siliconcpuit would help if I could get the ethernet card to work with a wire first =P12:56
siliconcputhen I could run what I need12:56
coreymon77ScorpKing: he has no internet on linux12:56
coreymon77siliconcpu: that should be your priority12:56
siliconcpunope, no internet on linux12:56
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: on that link look for "If that doesn't work, [WWW]  look here"12:56
siliconcpui'm on a diff machine right now12:56
siliconcputhe laptop with kubuntu is next to me12:56
ugacoreymon, you may try booting the linux drive from windows, through vmware? =)12:57
ugayou'd have internet connection through vmware's fake card12:57
coreymon77wireless is much easier to get working if you have some sort of internet12:57
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: download package, burn to cd, copy to linux and install. done12:57
lewixstdin, uga : It worked. however, that wasn't the right thing to do...I guess KDE call the same function to log out of the session. That's why the same problem happened. It hangs out and the screen goes dark12:57
coreymon77uga: thats all well and good if you have a dual core12:57
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coreymon77siliconcpu: do you?12:57
ugacoreymon, uh? I've run vmware jsut fine on single core p4s with 512MB ram12:58
siliconcpucoreymon - i have a working internet12:58
lewixstdin, uga : I should rather focus on how to fix it12:58
siliconcpuon this windows machine :)12:58
coreymon77siliconcpu: i know12:58
coreymon77siliconcpu: but you dont on linux12:58
siliconcpunope12:58
lewixstdin, By the way you didn't tell me how you got the commands12:58
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siliconcpuwireless + ethernet = not working12:59
ugawhen it goes black... does still ctrl+alt+f1 work?12:59
ugaor f2, f3...12:59
siliconcpui might have to go in a sec12:59
ugaif not, it may be a gfx card support issue12:59
siliconcputhe gf is giving me crap =(12:59
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: if you download a on windows file can you copy it to your linux box?12:59
lewixuga, please mention my screename otherwise I miss what you say. Well, I've never tried it12:59
NickPrestalewix, open up a terminal, type 'dcop' then press <ENTER>. You should see a list of applications. Type "dcop APPLICATION" and then press <ENTER>. Lather, rinse and repeat :)01:00
lewixuga, is it worth trying01:00
siliconcpuscorpking - yes01:00
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siliconcpuscorpking - what command do I use to run the file?01:00
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: then do as i said and it will work01:00
stdinlewix: "dcop" lists all dcop enabled apps, "dcop <app>" lists all it's "members" "dcop <app> <member>" lists all it's commands and "dcop <app> <member> <command> [argument(s)] " runs the command01:00
lewixNickPresta, what is it for01:00
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ugalewix, yes. If it switches to terminals, it means it's not locked01:00
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: sudo dpkg --install filename.deb01:00
ugalewix, so you could sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:00
NickPrestalewix, as far as I can tell, DCOP is a protocol that allows communication with applications registered to it (DCOP).01:01
ugalewix, what gfx card is it? nvidia?01:01
stdinlewix: you can use tab completion with dcop commands too :)01:01
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stdinDCOP is like D-BUS, it's an 'inter-application communication protocol'01:02
lewixuga, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS400 [Radeon Xpress 200M] 01:02
ugaNickPresta, it's a communication channel that lets processes communicate with each other. But having a client like dcop, allows the user to access them directly too01:02
ugaNickPresta, similar to the old Corba, or DBUS01:02
NickPrestastdin, can you "force" applications to register with DCOP or do they have to "voluntarily" register?01:02
lewixstdin, what do you mean by tab completion01:02
stdinNickPresta: it has to be compiled with dcop support01:02
ugalewix, shame. If it were nvidia I'd have suggested you to install latest binaries from nvidia01:03
NickPrestastdin, ah okay.01:03
lewixuga, good idea, I'll try it the next time however, it will only solve my problem temporarly01:03
stdinlewix: type "dcop kdesk<tab>"01:03
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lewixstdin, oh I see :)01:03
stdinNickPresta: and dcop is mostly a KDE think (tho kde4 will move to dbus)01:04
stdins/think/thing/01:04
ugastdin,mostly? =)01:04
ugaonly01:04
stdinno, it donesn't have to be a "kde" app to use dcop01:04
ugastdin, shame of a move to d-bus, btw, since d-bus is more limited01:04
ugait's just like beta over vhs... we chose the worse one01:04
stdinwell, it's not, but it is more complicated :p01:05
ugaiirc I read about some limitations on d-bus01:05
ugathings that were possible in dcop that weren't in d-bus01:05
NickPrestastdin, oh (about the move to DBUS). I always had this idea that DBUS was being phased out in terms of DCOP with KDE...01:05
lewixshould I reinstall it?01:06
lewixKDE01:06
stdinuga: dbus has had some major development recently01:06
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ugaNickPresta, the problem is somebody had the "nice" idea of including d-bus in kernel. So even Trolltech decided to add d-bus support. And KDE decided to migrate01:06
ugastdin, oh nice01:06
stdinNickPresta: dbus is more platform independent (it even runs on windows) so it's replacing dcop01:07
NickPrestastdin, that makes sense.01:07
stdinshame, I do love dcop so :p01:07
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ugastdin, it wasn't platform independent yet, when kde decided to migrate iirc01:07
stdinI can even run commands in konsole from another konsole session  :p01:08
lewixhm it's a pain in the ass sometimes :)01:08
ugabut maybe I'm wrong on that01:08
stdinuga: no, but it interoperates with other DE's (no dcop server needed)01:08
lewixI can't watch videos either. soon or later it freezes and I have to exit the browser01:08
lewixand it wouldn't play over01:09
NickPrestalewix, I would assume you're talking about YouTube videos, which is a Flash problem01:09
lewixNickPresta, indeed. oh I didn't know that was current01:09
lewixs/current/common01:09
wersguys! I can't write on my flash drive on kubuntu but I can write on it on Windows01:09
ugastdin, other DEs like gnome? for which dbus was created? =)01:09
ugayou'll always need some service running, I guess01:10
ugaeither dcop, or dbus01:10
lewixalso, no matter how many times I mount my windows patition..it dismount itself. So I have to do it over everytime I log on01:10
ugaoh nice... gutsy is arriving to my disk01:11
stdinuga: gnome, xfce, fluxbox, etc... while dbus was developed for use on gnome it doesn't really have anything to do with it (if that makes sense :P)01:11
ugastdin, same goes for dcop01:11
ugawhile dcop was created for use on kde doesn't have really anything to do with it01:11
uga;))01:11
stdinuga: dbus is a system service anyway, not a user level service, it will always be running01:11
ScorpKingwers: i think you need to make a partition on it.01:12
ugastdin, system service,... you mean in-kernel thing?01:12
Mr_Sonomawers, have you tried plugging in your flash drive after you have logged onto your kubuntu desktop?01:12
ugasure, it was adopted after gnome's adoption01:12
ugajust like anything else could have been adopted01:12
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wersI tried it Mr_Sonoma01:12
stdinuga: no, not in kernel. more like syslog01:12
ugauhm01:12
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wersmore details here ScorpKing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55381301:13
Mr_Sonomawers, could you access the flash drive then?01:13
wersI can01:13
wersI can even open the files01:13
wersI just can't write on it using linux01:13
Mr_Sonomahmmm01:13
ScorpKingwers: mmm, permission problem maybe...01:14
ugaokay... lets hope winders is capable of burning kubuntu isos01:14
wersI tried opening it as root, but I still cant write on it ScorpKing01:14
stdinuga: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Infra_Recorder :)01:15
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ScorpKingwers: if you type mount, is it mounted rw?01:15
vzduch<guess>it's mounted read-only</guess>01:15
wershow do I know if it is mounted as rw ScorpKing?01:15
ScorpKingwers: mount01:15
stdinuga: and http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Downloading_and_Burning_an_Ubuntu_ISO01:15
ugastdin, I got something called imgburn01:15
ugaand seems to be working...01:15
BluesKajuga, yes they use the same std01:16
uganext step rebooting and praying01:16
wersyou mean, on the terminal?01:16
stdinuga: that's the one the 2nd link talks about01:16
ScorpKingwers: yes01:16
ugaand if it doesn't, I'll only come back to say you "goodbye, gonna gentoo" ;))01:16
stdinuga: except you get to hear popey's voice in it :p01:16
BluesKajand we'll say , have fun :)01:16
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ugaBluesKaj, it's so annoying that one needs to boot a live CD to install kubuntu, and seeing the live CD wont' completely boot01:17
Mr_SonomaScorpKing, wers i see several threads in online forums about troubles with fat32 formated flash drives01:17
stdinuga: there's always the alternate cd01:17
BluesKajyeah, I experienced that with BSD01:17
wersmount: can't find /media/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:17
vzduchuga: you can always use the alternate CD01:17
ugavzduch, stdin, what does it exactly do? old style terminal mode installer?01:17
ScorpKingwers: looking at the link you posted it seems fine.01:17
Mr_Sonomadunno if thats it but01:17
stdinuga: yeah, "text mode"01:18
vzduchuga: ncurses Debian-like installer01:18
ScorpKingmaybe the ' in the mount point?01:18
ugaoh nice... as far as it doesn't happen same as happenned to an old debian installer (couldnt' find cdrom ;))01:18
ugaI tried several old distros and their live CDs01:18
BluesKajnever tried gentoo ...some ppl scared me away , cuz i feel i need more linux experience before i tackle it01:18
wersMR_Sonoma, I guess it really is because of the fat32 format because I have no problems with it on Windows01:19
ugaBluesKaj, don't get scared. It's all documented. If you RTFM, it works01:19
ugaif you don't, it doesn't ;))01:19
ugaBluesKaj, even your mom could install it from scratch. Although, shame, I don't think now full scratch installs are supported01:19
ScorpKingMr_Sonoma: and then there is 'FAT: Directory bread(block 514) failed' from his dmesg. :(01:19
BluesKajerr RTFM ?01:20
vzduchimho, Gentoo just isn't worth the effort.. you can get (almost) the same result w/ far less hassle :)01:20
ugaBluesKaj, read the ... flowerish manual ;)01:20
ScorpKingwers: the mount options looks ok but i have no idea why you get that errors.01:20
Mr_SonomaScorpKing, did he post a link to a screenshot or pastebin i missed?01:20
ScorpKing<wers> more details here ScorpKing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55381301:21
ugaBluesKaj, you'll notice that most bugs/problems around are all documented in gentoo wikis. Their strong point is documentation01:21
vzduchindeed01:21
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Mr_Sonomagotcha01:21
ugaanyway, cya guys01:21
BluesKajoh yeah uga, well i'm too busy with other stuff to get frustrated with another OS that doesn't recognize my haredware01:21
ScorpKingcheers01:21
BluesKajc ya uga01:22
Daisuke_Laptopthey have so many people doing documentation that they ran out of people to compile for packages >_>01:22
BluesKajgonna reboot my router , i have a 3 sec lag01:23
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lewixwhat's gksudo gedit01:25
lewixit does not even work but I always see it01:25
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ScorpKingwers: what does ls -l /media/ALLAN'SDISK-1/ say?01:26
stdinlewix: gksudo is the gnome version of kdesu and gedit is the gnome version of kate01:26
stdinlewix: if you see it on the wiki, let me know. I've made it my lives mission to add kubuntu instructions to them :p01:27
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lewixstdin, it's on the kubuntu feisty wiki. windows partition*01:28
erich_can anybody help me get my Netgear wireless adapter working?01:28
stdinlewix: link?01:28
lewixstdin, lol your life mission01:28
lewixstdin, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Mount_NTFS_Partitions01:28
wersScorpKing, just ">"01:29
stdinhmm ubuntuguide, why not just read the ubuntu wiki ?01:29
erich_or at least help me figure out why gaim has no sound in kubuntu?01:29
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ScorpKingwers: ls -al ?01:30
stdinwers: that's because of the '  use tab to complete the name, press Ctrl-C to get back to the prompt01:30
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wersls -al /media/ALLAN'SDISK-1/ also gave me ">"01:32
stdinyes that's because of the '  use tab to complete the name01:33
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wersstdin, when do I press tab?01:33
cloakableHi, I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04, but partitioning fails. The disk is being picked up as an scsi disk, though it's an IDE one.01:33
stdintype "ls -l /media/AL" then press tab01:33
Mr_Sonomawers, special caracters have to be escaped with \'\ type ls -al /media/all then hit the tab key and see what we mean. tab will complete the file name just as it completes the nicks on IRC.01:34
stdincloakable: in feisty all disks are scsi emulated01:34
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bobbyyuHow can I set up a classpath for my JDK and JRE (/opt/jdk1.6.0_02/bin and /opt/jre1.6.0_2/bin respectively)?01:34
cloakablestdin: It's not creating any partitions, though.01:34
wersgot it!01:35
wersI'll post the output in the thread01:35
stdin!java > bobbyyu | see the message from ubotu01:35
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stdincloakable: what happens when you try?01:35
ugabad luck guys, the gutsy CDs don't work either. Even worse, they don't even work in any vga= mode I tried01:36
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cloakablestdin: It errors. I've tried with parted too, and that just silently fails.01:36
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cloakablestdin: It's a thinkpad x2401:36
stdinwhat errors?01:36
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cloakablestdin: Something like 'Cannot create ext3 partition.'01:38
cloakablejust a sec01:38
vzduchcloakable: are you sure the hdd is ok?01:38
werssee the output here guys--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3387640#post338764001:38
cloakablevzduch: It installs debian fine.01:39
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cloakabletherefore I assume so01:39
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Mr_Sonomai totally missed the ' in that.01:40
vzduchcloakable: you might want to go to the hdd manufacturer's website and download a checking tool01:40
vzduchmost will come as a bootable floppy or CD image01:41
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cloakablevzduch: Or I might as well reinstall Debian.01:41
stdinof it's already partitioned then just install without partitioning01:42
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cloakablestdin: It isn't partitioned01:42
Mr_Sonomaout of curiosity what would happen if one installed say debian etch then used a source.list from a ubuntu fiesty or gutsy distro to upgrade??? would you end up with the fiesty or gutsy distro or a broken machine in need of a live cd?01:42
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vzduchMr_Sonoma: most probably the latter01:43
Mr_Sonomalol what i figured01:43
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vzduchI'm going to bed.. good night everyone :)01:44
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pedrohi01:46
erich_can anybody try to help me get my netgear wireless adapter working in kubuntu?01:46
ScorpKingwers: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/ALLAN\'SDISK-1/01:46
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ScorpKing!paste | wers01:47
ubotuwers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:47
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wershttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37853/01:50
wersthere you go01:50
ScorpKingwers: and btw, you have a virus on that disk.01:50
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ScorpKing:(01:51
wershow did you determine that, ScorpKing?01:51
wersyou mean, a Windows virus?01:51
ScorpKingwers: that's my job. lol - RavMonE.exe01:51
wersohhh01:52
wershaha01:52
werscan I just delete it?01:52
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ScorpKingwers: yes but it will be all over your system. open AutoRun.inf and you'll see the command that load it everytime.01:53
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wersokay.. so I'll just reformat this thing01:53
wershmmm.. is there a way for me to copy the files inside it without copying the virus?01:54
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ScorpKingwers: it won't infect linux01:54
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Mr_Sonomabut it will be on the windows machine / partition01:54
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ScorpKingwers: copy all the files and delete RavMonE.exe and AutoRun.inf when you copy it back.01:55
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wersokay... I'll do that01:55
wershow do I reformat the thumb drive using linux?01:55
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ScorpKingwers: use cfdisk to make a partition01:55
Mr_Sonomaim out, later01:56
Daisuke_Laptopi don't have the slightest clue what happened there...  i did an update that wanted a reboot, and now everything's gone to he**01:56
ScorpKingwers: then use mkfs.vfat to format it.01:56
werswill that partition be opened by windows as well?01:56
ScorpKingyes01:56
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ScorpKingwers: is that disk /dev/sda?01:57
wersit is a /dev/sda101:57
ScorpKingwers: then just copy everything to linux and run sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 when it's unmounted01:58
wersthen it will reformat the drive?01:58
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ScorpKingyes, no need to make a partition01:59
stdinyou may want to use '-F 32' to make it a FAT32 partition (rather than FAT16)01:59
Daisuke_Laptophopefully this next update fixes my display issues01:59
wersok.. I will do that01:59
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ScorpKingthanks stdin. :) didn't know that.02:00
Daisuke_Laptop(using gnome on the lappy): Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'.02:00
werswould you mind giving me the exact code that I should enter once I unmount it? I don't want to fail when it comes to this kind of thing02:00
siliconcpuScorpKing - i am back =P02:00
stdinyou can give it a name/label too, with '-n something' :p02:00
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: welcome back. :)02:01
siliconcputhanks02:01
siliconcpuI'm going to download and try to install that package u told me to download02:01
ScorpKingstdin: will you help him with a full command?02:01
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: it worked for me. took 5 minutes. :P02:01
stdin"sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n "MYDISK" /dev/sda1"02:02
ScorpKing:D02:02
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siliconcpuScorpKing - so install this firmware and then try to use ndiswrapper?02:04
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siliconcpuor will the firmware fix the problem?02:04
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: i don't even have ndiswrapper installed and it works02:04
siliconcpuwow02:04
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siliconcpuso, just type "sudo dpkg --install filename.deb"02:05
ScorpKingyeah :P02:05
siliconcpu:)02:05
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siliconcpuokay i'll give it a shot in a min02:05
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siliconcpulol02:06
siliconcpu<3 windows02:06
stdin!windows | siliconcpu02:07
ubotusiliconcpu: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents02:07
ScorpKingi've had it with M$02:07
Lega'ello.02:07
siliconcpulol02:07
wersif I want to format the drive as fat32, I will enter sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 -F 32... is that right?02:07
siliconcpui'm struggling with getting kubuntu to work with my hardware, but I'll willing to make a change!02:08
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ScorpKing<stdin> "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n "MYDISK" /dev/sda1"02:08
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ugaokay... other than a broken layouted kb, I managed starting up kubuntu right )(02:08
stdinwers: that's makes a FAT32 partition called "MYDISK" on /dev/sda102:08
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ugastdin: are you one of the kubuntu guys? I think this hint is important to note down... since not even gutsy seems to wr  otherwise02:09
ugawork02:09
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wersoh.. a partition? how about if I want to reformat the whole drive without separate partitions on it?02:09
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stdinwers: 1 partition is the whole disk in your case02:09
ugaany maintainers here?02:10
ScorpKingwers: keep it the way it is. less problems. :P02:10
stdinuga: if you found a bug, report it on launchpad02:10
ugastdin: no, I found a solution, took me some time googling, and works02:10
stdinuga: #kubuntu-devel is where the devs hang out ;)02:10
ugaokay...02:10
shadowhywindHi all, not sure where else to go. But having a small sound problem. When ever i try to play a game, with opengl. The sound *which i am asuming is using openal* is sort of jumpy. Any ideas?02:10
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siliconcpuaye, I need to install VM Ware02:12
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: vmware is nice. :)02:13
siliconcpuyeah, I've heard =P  I have to reboot and boot into windows to copy that file to my drive02:13
siliconcpucause I dont have internet access in kubuntu =(02:13
stdinvirtualbox is nicer02:13
siliconcpuhopefully this will fix the issue.02:13
ScorpKinglol02:13
Biovoreany ever messed with wubi?02:14
nemisisdoes anyone know how to configure KNetworkManager to automatically connect to my home network at startup?02:14
ScorpKingdoes anyone know how to get devilspie working under kde?02:14
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jhutchins!info devlispie02:15
ubotuPackage devlispie does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:15
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jhutchins!find devilspie02:15
ubotuFound: devilspie02:15
ScorpKingjhutchins: all the howto's is for gnome. i can't seem to get it working though. :(02:15
Biovorenemisis: try netgo02:16
Biovoreknetworkmanger sorta sucks..02:16
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jhutchinsScorpKing: Not everything built for gnome works in kde.02:16
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ScorpKingi know. was hoping there is a way.02:17
nemisisbiovore: where can i get that and how do i replace KNetworkManager with it? or is it all handled by apt?02:17
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intelikeysomeone tell me how to get my login name in my prompt please02:17
Biovorenemisis: well its a seperate little program02:17
Biovoreapt-get it02:17
Biovoreprobably will have to mess with it.. I am not sure if it handles wep or not..02:17
Biovorebut does provide network profiles02:18
siliconcpuScorpKing - any additional steps after installing the firmwre?02:18
judgenis there a way to make a website that the kmplayer-plugin is windows media player?02:18
siliconcpucause it said "settuping up <file name>" and hasn't done much, heh02:18
hydrogenintelikey: use \u in PS102:18
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: not that i can remember.02:18
siliconcpuhmm02:18
nemisisbiovore: but can it autoconnect without any user interaction?02:19
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: the card should show up in knetworkmanger now02:19
intelikeyhydrogen doesn't work02:20
intelikeytty2 [I have no name!$~]  set | grep PS102:20
intelikeyPS1='\l [\u\$\w]  '02:20
intelikeytty2 [I have no name!$~] 02:20
jhutchinsjudgen: Content on web sites is labeled by mime type.  Your system uses the mime type to determine what player to use.  to get mplayer to open a certain type of file, you have to make it the default player for that mime type.02:20
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hydrogenintelikey: export PS1='\u' works02:20
hydrogenyou may need some sort of escaping02:20
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intelikeyno02:20
intelikeyhydrogen look at the post  ^02:21
intelikeyi need to find what   \u   is reading from02:21
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hydrogen`whoami` i'd assume02:22
intelikeytty2 [I have no name!$~]  whoami02:22
intelikeywhoami: cannot find name for user ID 1102:22
hydrogenyep02:22
hydrogenthat sounds weird02:22
intelikeyok found it.   can't read /etc/passwd02:22
intelikeythat fixed it,   thanks.02:23
hydrogennod02:23
intelikeyjust needed to find what   \u  was reading from.   knew all the vars were set correctly.02:24
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intelikeyso it uses something like     grep $UID /etc/passwd | cut -d':' -f102:25
intelikeywonder why it doesn't just use   $NAME02:25
intelikeyah NAME is not read only   UID is   heh that's why02:26
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intelikeytty2 [greg$~]  export UID=002:27
intelikey.true: UID: readonly variable02:27
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siliconcpuScorpKing - hmm, not go on the internet =(02:28
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: is the card there?02:28
siliconcpuhow can i tell?02:28
siliconcpucommand?02:28
intelikeyifconfig ?02:28
ScorpKingyes ifconfig02:29
ScorpKingit should be eth1 i think02:29
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ugastdin: matinainers are dead. Gutsy won't come out ;)02:29
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newbihii02:29
intelikeygarfold02:30
stdinuga: most devs are in europe, and it's late here :p02:30
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: run sudo modprobe bcm43xx02:30
ugastdin: mmmmmmmmmmmmme too02:30
newbilol what is garfold?02:30
siliconcpuScorpKing - well, I see an inet address and bcas address for eth102:30
junkeRcan I get support for digikam here?02:31
intelikeynewbi misspelling of your nick ???    just prior to  <newbi> hii02:31
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: it's 02:31 here so i should get to bed. it seems to be working. go back to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty02:31
newbiintelikey: garfield02:31
intelikeyo   ie02:32
ScorpKingsiliconcpu: it needs to be configured with your router.02:32
siliconcpureally?02:32
siliconcpuhmm02:33
siliconcpuwhich part should I jump to on that link?02:33
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siliconcpucause I'm pretty sure the firmware is installed.02:33
intelikeyread it all and you wont need to "jump"02:33
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ScorpKingsiliconcpu: 1.3.3. Step 3: Connecting to your network02:33
ScorpKinglol02:34
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newbistdin: how do i use doscan?02:34
siliconcpuhmmm02:34
siliconcpui cant use "network-manager"?02:35
intelikeyhave a hard drive that keeps resetting.   how to detect which drive it is ????    any ideas ?02:35
ScorpKingno idea. ask around. :P02:35
siliconcpuhehe, ok02:35
ScorpKingnite everyone!02:35
siliconcpuI appreciate the help02:35
ScorpKingnp02:35
intelikeygooday ScorpKing02:35
stdinnewbi: look at the man page "man doscan"         and ask the channel first02:35
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eduardoundersiliconcpu: isnt "knetworkmanager" ?02:35
newbistdin: lol02:36
stdinnewbi: no "lol" if you keep doing that I'll get annoyed02:37
newbistdin: does man work for every programme i install?02:37
stdinmost02:37
intelikeynewbi most of them have either man or info pages   and those that done will normally have their own breed of online docs ".html or .xml"  in the /usr/share/docs/   you can find with something like    dpkg -L <packagename> | grep .html02:39
intelikeydone != dont02:39
intelikeye = r-1   t = r+1    hmmm  typo makes sense on qwerty keyboard02:40
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intelikeyinfo info02:41
intelikeyman man02:41
intelikeyfind /usr -iname *.html02:42
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intelikeythree help switches, one of which works with most commands     -h --help (and the non-posix) -help (which applies to most GUI apps)        also for the shell built-in's   help <command>02:44
newbiintelikey: how do i use doscan?i type doscan in a konsole it says:doscan: mandatory --port argument is missing02:45
newbi"man doscan is to much to read02:46
siliconcpuhmm, does anyone know how to get Network Manager back on the bottom right of the screen by the volume?02:47
siliconcpuit like... disappeared02:47
newbistdin: same question ^^02:47
Jucatosiliconcpu: run "knetworkmanager" ?02:47
intelikeyand that leads me into this rant,   why is "-help"  non-posix?    because it precludes the use of multiple single char switches  -AaBb...   and tic's people that like posix off greatly.02:47
stdinnewbi: too much to read? then don't use it.02:47
newbio_O02:48
intelikeynewbi if it says thet the required port argument is missing then add a port argument02:48
intelikeydoscan 8002:48
newbi80?02:48
newbithats it?02:48
intelikeythhp02:48
siliconcpuJucato - in the konsole, right?02:48
intelikeyhttp02:49
Jucatosiliconcpu: Alt+F2 would be better02:49
newbi???02:49
intelikey80 is the http standard02:49
siliconcpucould not run specified command02:49
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intelikeyif you are scanning your own box  try port 002:49
siliconcpu"knetworkmanager" (no quotes)02:50
siliconcpudoesn't work in the run =(02:50
JucatoO.o02:50
Jucatook try it in Konsole02:50
siliconcpuwtf02:51
siliconcpu"the program is not currently installed"02:51
intelikeythat might do it...02:51
siliconcpuwell, i can't install it using sudo apt-get02:52
siliconcpuit can't find it02:52
siliconcpu=/02:52
intelikeythat might be why it02:52
intelikeys not installed02:52
intelikey!punctuation > intelikey02:52
siliconcpu?02:52
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newbisiliconcpu: is knetwork in the K-menu?02:53
posingaspopularhey all. i somehow broke my /etc/init files and now nothing i try to run works properly02:53
intelikeysiliconcpu sources.list02:53
posingaspopularnewbi: yea under 'internet'02:53
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siliconcpunewbi - k-menu?  I'm new to kubuntu... you mean the menu on the bottom left?02:54
newbiposingaspopular: i ask siliconcpu not you02:54
newbisiliconcpu: yes02:54
siliconcpuyeah, I see internet02:54
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intelikeyposingaspopular ?   breaking /etc/inittab or /etc/init.d/*   should not keep other commands from working     can you explain what kind of errors you are seeing ?02:54
siliconcpunewbi - i have "internet" under the k-menu02:55
siliconcpuis there something i'm suppose to look for under there?02:55
Jucatosiliconcpu: do you see KNetworkmanager in there?02:55
newbisiliconcpu: and u want knetwork dont by the volume right?02:55
siliconcpunope02:55
Jucatook very strange...02:55
siliconcpunope02:55
siliconcpuneither02:55
Jucatowhat does "sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager" say?02:55
siliconcpuI saw it on the bottom right yesterday, but now it's gone!02:55
siliconcpusays done on a few things and then says "Package knetworkmanager is not available"02:56
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siliconcpuE: Package knetworkmanager has no installation candidate02:56
intelikeysiliconcpu sources.list02:56
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intelikeymain not in sources.list02:57
Jucatomost probably02:57
Jucatoor disabled...02:57
siliconcpuwhat does that mean?02:57
Jucato!pastebin02:57
newbisiliconcpu: right click your panel,add application to panel>internet>knetwork02:57
intelikey!info knetworkmanager02:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:57
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB02:57
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Jucatosiliconcpu: use that pastebin link to show your /etc/apt/sources.list file02:57
intelikeyJucato just a thought,  you better make sure that the lsb_release and the sources.list match too02:58
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siliconcpuwhere can I paste?02:59
Jucatopastebin, look up for the link02:59
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Jucatointelikey: you can ask him that too :)02:59
intelikeybeen seeing some mismatches there.   causes very strange apt errors.02:59
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intelikeyme hates to but in and take over....03:00
intelikey/03:00
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Jucatobutt it's ok :)03:00
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newbihow do i stop amsn from steeling people picture?my friend want to kill me from steeling there girlfriend pictures :( amsn does it by it self03:02
siliconcpuaye, this is making it so much harder to paste with no internet =(03:02
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intelikeyno internet ?03:02
intelikeyyou do seem to be talking here...03:03
newbisiliconcpu: u dont have internet so how u get on konversation?03:03
siliconcpuwell, no internet on the laptop with the kubuntu installed03:03
intelikeyoh ok.03:03
siliconcpuand for some reason the USB feature dont work either03:03
siliconcpuso i can throw the file on a thumb drive03:03
siliconcpu*can't03:03
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newbiintelikey: it happen to me once i couldnt surf or nothing just chat on konversation for the first time i instal linux.it took me 1 week to fint the problem03:04
user704hello03:04
newbihello03:04
intelikeysiliconcpu ok don't paste the whole file.   try this.    grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list     and show us the output of that03:04
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stdin2hihihi03:07
stdin!nickspam | stdin203:07
ubotustdin2: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines03:07
intelikeyit's garfold alright...03:07
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stdin2o_O03:07
Jucatostdin2, xp_killer, newbi: please try not to get banned *again*03:08
stdin2lol03:08
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stdin2i wont chaing it again03:08
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Jucatobetter change it one last time03:08
draikJucato: Hey there. How goes it?03:08
Jucatohi draik! :)03:09
stdin2lol03:09
stdin2Jucato: if i change again stdin might banned me :(03:09
siliconcpuis there anything specific that I should look for in the sources.list file?03:10
stdinright...03:10
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Jucatook... :)03:10
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BluesKajthx stdin , what aPITA03:10
stdinhe can come back, just not as stdin2 :)03:10
BluesKajno!03:11
Jucatostdin: didn't you just ban his domain too?03:11
intelikeysiliconcpu yeah that main is in all three deb http:* 1) normal 2) updates 3) security03:11
stdinJucato: i banned that nick@that-domain03:11
Jucatoah ok03:11
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draikstdin sets a ban on stdin2!*@amarigot-102-1-7-211.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr03:12
intelikeysiliconcpu also that the version   i.e.   feisty or gutsy  is the same in all lines  and that it matches the  lsb_release -a03:12
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stdinsee, it worked03:12
Jucatoyep. there he is03:12
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garfieldlol very funny03:12
BluesKajban this one too ... garfield@amarigot-102-1-7-211.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr03:12
Jucato:/03:13
stdingarfield: you've been warned numerous times, watch it03:13
draik>|B^(03:13
garfieldBluesKaj: what is garfield@amarigot-102-1-7-211.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr?03:13
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BluesKaj<---old and grumpy ...can't take silly punky behaviour for very long03:14
stdingarfield: your username and hostname03:14
garfieldand?03:14
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garfieldwhat was the point he showing it to me?03:14
steven_how do I make konqueror my defualt file manager?03:14
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Jucatosteven_: it's already the default. unless you're on gutsy?03:15
xp_killersteven_: it isnt your default?03:15
steven_Jucato: Using gutsy, and I'm looking a file associations03:15
Jucatosteven_: inode/directory and inode/system_directory03:15
BluesKajwell BBL ...gonna take a break for a while03:15
steven_alright thanks03:15
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steven_hm gutsy made it defualt now aswell! yay03:15
steven_I asumed it was not.03:16
Jucato(we'll see...)03:16
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Jucato>:)03:16
steven_I don't get what is so great about dolphin03:16
steven_kinda is a step backward with kde03:16
Jucatoon KDE 3? it isn't great at all imho03:16
Jucatobut you should see the KDE 4 version. worlds apart03:16
steven_but its great in kde403:16
steven_h03:16
steven_Well03:16
draikdolphin?03:16
steven_ill wait and see03:16
steven_yeah03:17
Biovoreyeah.. kde3 version is lacking features03:17
Jucatobesides, that dolphin in Gutsy isn't really dolphin ..03:17
draikWhat is dolphin?03:17
Biovorergr03:17
Jucatoit's d3lphin03:17
Biovorethe new filemanger03:17
Biovorewell not really all the new.. but kinda getting new light these days03:17
steven_Jucato: what is special about the kde4 version03:17
Jucatosteven_: *lots*03:18
steven_;o03:18
siliconcpuargh i wish there was a way I could paste this file =(03:18
Jucatodid you know that development on the KDE 3 version stopped almost half a year ago?03:18
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siliconcpuI can't get it off kubuntu and onto my other drive tho03:18
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kgx!wengo03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:19
allengouldso, I'm a linux noob and need to install firefox.03:19
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draikallengould: sudo apt-get install firefox03:19
allengouldI have it downloaded and extracted, but don't know hat to do next03:19
draikDo that in a command line03:19
Jucatoallengould: um.. K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs -> Firefox03:19
allengouldoh....03:19
steven_draik: you beat me to it only because my keyboard was on the floor03:20
Jucatoallengould: K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs -> search for Firefox, check it, Apply Changes03:20
draiksteven_: yeah yeah yeah.....03:20
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steven_draik: I got's homework03:20
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allengouldI guess I'm used to the old days when you had to terminal everything lol03:20
draikJucato: Thanks for the laugh...03:21
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Jucatoallengould: you could also follow draik's instructions.03:21
steven_or you could compile firefox!03:21
JucatoO.o03:21
siliconcpuany way I can pop the installation cd in and reinstall knetworkmanager?03:21
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steven_that's the most fun03:21
Daisuke_Laptophow did miniville end up in the topic?  is it hosted on ubuntu machines?03:22
Jucatosiliconcpu: what is the output of "lsb_release -d" in that laptop?03:22
steven_or you could develop your own kernel with special compile flags made to make firefox faster when you compile it...03:22
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draikI walk into a bathroom today and I thought I heard someone letting some rip badly. Kinda like a MACK truck going uphill at a 30 degree incline. Next thing I hear is "OH $H!T. I fell asleep"03:22
Daisuke_Laptopbeing that this is an english channel, why is the link to a french site?  enquiring minds want to know :)03:22
siliconcpuJucato - ubuntu 7.0403:23
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Daisuke_Laptopevening, jucato03:23
Jucatohi Daisuke_Laptop03:23
steven_Daisuke_Laptop: I didn't even notice :P03:23
siliconcpuJucato - anything wrong with my version?03:24
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Jucatosiliconcpu: nope. hold on trying to figure out the easiest way to do this03:24
siliconcpuokay, thanks... I appreciate it03:24
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viktor_i need help imediatly i installed kubuntu 7.04 mu cpu fan does not work my laptop overheads please help03:24
siliconcpuwhen I type in ... "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" it can find my router, so I hope this is a good sign for getting the wireless card to work =P03:25
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Jucatosiliconcpu: you just can't connect to the internet on your laptop? can you remember what happened or what you did before you lost knetworkmanager?03:25
intelikeyviktor_ that's a good question.      "howto turn the cpu fan on?"03:26
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siliconcpuwell, first of all I have a broadcom 4318 wireless card and I wasn't able to connect to my network03:26
siliconcpuI have no idea what happened to knetworkmanager though.  I don't remember disablling anything03:26
viktor_intelikey: help please03:26
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intelikeyviktor_ wish i knew.03:27
siliconcpuJucato - this is my first time installing kubuntu on this machine03:27
intelikeyviktor_ i'll look on    google.com/linux  for that.03:27
Jucatooh... hm...03:27
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NickPrestahow can I make knetworkmanager remember my WPA key instead of having me type it everytime?03:27
viktor_intelikey: me too03:27
Jucatosiliconcpu: first try in installing, wireless didn't work? but you were able to see the icon beside kmix in the panel?03:28
siliconcpuyes sir.03:28
siliconcpubut... it couldnt' find a wireless network03:28
siliconcpuit was pretty much useless, but now I need it =(03:28
Jucatohm... I'm guessing the installation didn't go so well in the first place, if knetworkmanager isn't there at all :(03:29
siliconcpulol03:29
siliconcpuwhat's the easiest way to reinstall?03:29
siliconcpupop the cd in and format the drive again?03:29
Jucatowhich CD installer did you use btw?03:29
JucatoDesktop CD? Alternate Install CD?03:29
Jucato(Live CD = Desktop CD)03:30
siliconcpuI think it's a desktop CD03:30
siliconcpucause it's a live cd03:30
Jucatooh :(03:30
allengouldok, so I suck. when do I type sudo apt-get install firefox ?03:30
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siliconcpuJucato, nething wrong with that?03:30
Jucatoallengould: yep03:30
allengouldand I tried doing the add programs, but it is greyed out?03:30
Jucatosiliconcpu: nothing really wrong. just thinking if reinstalling is really the answer :(03:30
allengouldfirefox is greyed out I mean03:30
siliconcpuwell, when i initially installed I had knetworkmanager =P03:31
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siliconcpulol03:31
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Ahmuckallengould: in the konsole03:31
siliconcpui'm as confused as you!03:31
JucatoI can understand if it's disabled. but you say even if you type it in the command line it says "not installed"?03:31
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AhmuckJucato: he has the icon, but no binary i bet03:32
allengouldahmuck: yeah, but when? do I need to be in a certain folder?03:32
Ahmuckallengould: nope03:32
JucatoAhmuck: no icon either.. that was his original problem03:32
Ahmucksudo aptitude install firefox03:32
siliconcpulol03:32
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siliconcpuJucato - what can i type in the console to check again03:32
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siliconcpuI shall do it03:32
allengouldwell, it's not working03:32
Jucatosiliconcpu: "knetworkmanager"03:32
siliconcpuif it isn't there, i'm just going to try to reinstall and start from square 103:33
Ahmuckallengould: live cd or installed to the hard drive?03:33
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allengouldinstalled03:33
siliconcpulol!03:33
siliconcpuJucato - I don't know where it went =(03:33
Jucatoallengould: which version of Kubuntu are you running? Dapper? Edgy? Feisty?03:33
Ahmuckallengould: i would sudo aptitude install yakuake as well or first.  you will find it a real help03:33
allengouldFeisty03:33
Jucatosiliconcpu: definitely not in my pocket...03:33
siliconcpuJucato - lol, got a command I can check for it?03:33
siliconcpua search?03:33
Jucatoallengould: hm.. the repositories should already be all enabled...03:33
Jucatosiliconcpu: "knetworkmanager"03:34
Jucatothat's the command03:34
AhmuckJucato: ah, yes, forgot about that03:34
RurouniJonesIf I remove firefox and reinstall via apt-get will I lose personal things like bookmarks?03:34
Ahmuckallengould: open up adept manager03:34
Jucatoallengould: what does it say when you run "sudo apt-get install firefox" ?03:34
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JucatoRurouniJones: no. apt-get doesn't touch your home files03:34
JucatoAhmuck: don't. I'm about to go...03:34
RurouniJonesGroovy, what about addons? They get removed?03:34
allengouldjust a sec guys. I suck and I'm slow03:34
siliconcpuJucato - i will reinstall =/03:35
JucatoRurouniJones: probably not03:35
Jucatosiliconcpu: sorry it had to happen that way :(03:35
Ahmuckallengould: that's ok, you'll get better03:35
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siliconcpulol, it's alright03:35
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siliconcpui'm going to start over and hopefully get it to work this time03:35
RurouniJonesJucato: Hmm, where do the addon files get stored? I am pretty sure they are messing firefox up, hence the need to reinstall03:35
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Jucatosiliconcpu: good luck03:36
allengouldit says package not available03:36
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JucatoRurouniJones: wouldn't know.. I barely use firefox, and I don't use addons :)03:36
Ahmucksiliconcpu: you should not need to start over03:36
Jucatosiliconcpu: see if Ahmuck has some ideas.03:36
Jucato2 heads are better than one03:36
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AhmuckRurouniJones: the addon files get stored in /plugins03:36
Ahmucki believe03:36
RurouniJonesFound it in the .mozilla/firefox/extensions03:37
draikHow can I get a DVD to go from 6.4 to 3.9GB03:37
RurouniJonesI think03:37
brad__Any ideas as to how I can disable my touchpad on my laptop? I use an external mouse.03:37
AhmuckRurouniJones: /.mozilla/firefox/default/extensions03:37
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Ahmuckbleh, he beat me to it03:37
allengouldjucato/ahmuck: it says package not available03:37
Ahmuckallengould: do you have adept manager open?03:37
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AhmuckK --> system --> adept manager03:38
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allengouldthat the same as adept installer?03:38
Jucatonope03:38
Ahmuck:-p03:38
allengouldlol thanks jucato03:38
allengoulduh.... ok, just a sec lol03:38
JucatoAdd/Remove Programs = Adept Installer03:38
Ahmuckallengould: u r on kubuntu correct?03:38
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Jucatothe other Adept..03:38
allengouldduh. found it03:38
Jucato(gawd I hate those naming things!)03:38
allengouldyeah, kiubuntu03:38
makuseruhi, i have a Mororola Razr phone, and when i plug it through USB into the computer the computer wont recognize and charge it like it will on a comp with Windows03:38
Jucatoallengould: don't worry, you're not the first to be confused by the names03:38
makuseruis there somthing i need to do this?03:38
Ahmuckupper right, adept, manage repostiroeis03:39
allengouldI'm in it now03:39
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Ahmuckkubuntu software, and check them all03:39
JucatoAhmuck: Feisty doesn't have the new Manage Repositories....03:39
Ahmuck?03:40
Ahmuckhrm, i'm on gutsy03:40
allengouldhaha03:40
JucatoFeisty and Gutsy have completely different manage repositories03:40
allengouldI was like wtf?03:40
draikmakuseru: I don't know about mororola, but Motorola is a "not so good" brand for cell phones. They care less and less each day. I can, however, plugin my phone (T-Mobile Wing) and have it charge. I cannot access the phone as a drive, though.03:40
NickPresta!gutsy | Ahmuck03:40
ubotuAhmuck: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+103:40
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NickPrestacrap. stupid autocompletion03:40
NickPrestai didnt mean to direct it to Ahmuck03:40
NickPrestaalthough I thought that bit would have the link to Gutsy03:41
Ahmuckbut, iirc, fiesty does have a repositiory manager from adept somewhere03:41
Ahmuck?03:41
Jucatoyes. but the layout is different03:41
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JucatoAhmuck, allengould: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:41
Jucatotop half is Gutsy, lower half is Feisty and older03:41
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Ahmucki normally sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:42
Jucatohehehe03:42
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Jucatosudo vim...03:42
Jucatoallengould:  is this a very fresh install of Kubuntu?03:42
allengouldyeah, a couple of hours lol03:42
Ahmuckallengould: ya, follow the link Jucato posted.  it has instructions03:42
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Jucatoallengould: ok, Adept menu -> Manage Repositories. you're in there now?03:43
Ahmucki've always had to enable repositories to get firefox to download03:43
JucatoAhmuck: since Feisty, all repos are enabled.. but I think the cdrom repo is getting in the way03:43
AhmuckNickPresta: gutsty tribe 5 is what i am running, it works well.03:43
allengouldI'm in adept manager?03:43
Jucatoallengould: yep.03:43
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allengouldok, now what?03:44
Jucatoallengould: upper right, in the menu bar, there's the Adept menu. right? select Manage Repositories03:44
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allengouldk03:44
siliconcpuJucato - i did see the knetworkmanager on the live desktop =P03:44
Jucatoallengould: do you see a line there that begins with "cdrom" that isn't grayed out?03:44
draikJucato: Remember yesterday's little problem with the laptop?03:44
Jucatodraik: um.. sorry if I don't.. I was slightly sick yesterday03:45
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draikOh, sure. NOW you're sick03:45
Jucatosiliconcpu: oh... it might have not been installed/copied over...03:45
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Jucatodraik: aw c'mon! I can be sick once in a while... :P03:45
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siliconcpujucato - we shall see =P03:45
draikJucato: You said you were, then you said you weren't ... make up your mind, buddy!03:46
siliconcpuis there a way i can install it from the CD if it doesn't copy over?03:46
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Jucatosiliconcpu: don't think so...03:46
allengouldok.. I accidently hit fetch updates and it's downloading a bunch of stuff...03:46
allengouldsorry.03:46
siliconcpuhmm03:46
siliconcpucould I try a redownload or something?03:46
draiksiliconcpu: Great question. I've been wondering that for a while now, too.03:46
Jucatoallengould: hm.. ok... wait for it to finish...03:46
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siliconcpuI'm puzzled, lol03:46
allengouldalmost done03:47
Jucatodraik: I had the flu since sunday. yesterday the flu was replaced by the migraine...03:47
siliconcpueeek03:47
allengouldbrb afk a sec03:47
Jucatoof course your yesterday and my yesterday don't exactly match, do they03:47
draikI wish I could get your migranes. I can't even look at a 1W bulb. Heck, an LED kills me03:47
XsteelWolfAnyone knows how how to configure wireless on Knetwork Manager? After i connect to a network that it appears on the list,no popup for me to keyin wpa-psk key, and it always hang at 28% and then knetwork manager will just crash03:47
siliconcpurofl03:47
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siliconcpu"omg a lightning bug! KILL IT!"03:48
NickPrestaI was reading the Tribe 5 wiki page and apparently kdesudo replaces kdesu in Gusty. Will there be a symlink so anything written to use kdesu will still work?03:48
JucatoNickPresta: that's the way it works03:48
AhmuckXsteelWolf: manual configuration03:48
NickPrestaJucato, okay, neat03:48
Jucatolrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-19 08:09 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo03:48
XsteelWolfahmuck,how do i do that03:48
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siliconcpulol03:49
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XsteelWolfwhat do i do at /etc/network/interfaces03:49
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JucatoXsteelWolf: I think what Ahmuck meant was to right-click on the knetworkmanager icon and select Manual Configuration03:49
siliconcpuJucato - if this installation doesn't install knetworkmanager, should I just redownload the install or something?03:49
allengouldok, back. the only thing I can find is under third party software it says add CD rom. so no03:49
XsteelWolfJucato,i did that,still getting 28% or either the whole knetwork manager will just crash,after it's crash,no wirelessnetwork will be detected03:50
Jucatoallengould: er.. you have a third party software tab? O.o03:50
JucatoXsteelWolf: oh.. wait for Ahmuck then :)03:50
allengouldI clicked on adept then clicked on manage repositories...03:50
Jucatolol my apologies Ahmuck and allengould03:50
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allengouldlmao03:51
allengouldnot as confused as I am03:51
Jucatohold on a sec03:51
JucatoAhmuck: my bad. the new Manage Repos has been in feisty too... sorry :)03:51
Ahmuckallengould: do a print screen of what you have and  post it03:51
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allengouldhehe... I'm not on that computer.03:52
Jucatoallengould: in the Third Party Software tab, there are no cdrom lines there with checkboxes?03:52
Ahmuckhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu have you followed this?  does it look the same?03:52
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Jucatobah! I'm leaving it to Ahmuck... too many cooks have spoiled the dish... :(03:53
Jucatoreally sorry03:53
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Ahmuckheh ... but your better than i am Jucato03:53
Jucatonot this time apparently heheh03:53
Jucatoanyway I should be doing something...03:53
allengouldok, I see that the screenshot on the site shows unsupported updates selected. should I select that?03:54
Ahmuckyes03:54
XsteelWolfAhmuck,you got the manual configuration yet?03:54
Ahmuckunsupported and recommended03:54
AhmuckXsteelWolf: nope03:54
siliconcpunooo Jucato dont leave03:54
siliconcpuyou're my good luck03:54
Ahmucksorry, one thing at a time03:54
allengouldok it's downloading stuf03:54
allengould*stuff03:54
Ahmuckkewl03:55
Ahmuckwhen it's done you should be able to type in the search box firefox03:55
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Ahmuckallengould: you chose recommended updates as well i hope03:55
allengouldok, it pulled up all the firefox stuff03:56
allengouldyeah03:56
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Ahmuckgreat.  so what you need now is firefox, then you can type in the search box yakuake, etc.03:56
Ahmuckyou can install multiple programs in one shot03:57
Ahmucki would install yakuake, as i think it will save you time03:57
XsteelWolflet me know when you get the manual config ahmuck,thanks03:57
AhmuckXsteelWolf: sure thing03:57
allengouldstupid question alert: add yakuake after 'firefox' in the search?03:57
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Ahmuckallengould: you will find if you know the package name, it is easier just to F12, open yakuake, and then "sudo aptitude install program_name"03:58
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allengouldok03:58
Ahmuckallengould: no, just type it in new03:58
Ahmuckreplace firefox03:58
Ahmucker, in the search parameter03:58
Ahmucker, my spelling is getting bad03:58
siliconcpuyou guys ever see that show "big brother" it's the stupidest show EVER!03:59
intelikey!info yakuake03:59
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB03:59
allengouldwhen I do that it gets rid of all the firefox stuff03:59
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BluesKajsiliconcpu, wife says it's fixed04:00
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siliconcpuBluesKaj - don't watch it! it's horrible04:00
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Ahmuckallengould: yes, but you clicked firefox and did a "request install" correct?04:00
siliconcpumy gf watches it and i hate it04:01
allengoulduh.... heh... maybe...04:01
allengouldor not04:01
Ahmuckwell, when you do, it will say "install" to the left, then you can add the next package04:01
allengouldok, clicked request install on both. now what?04:01
BluesKajI don't watch it , siliconcpu ...don't watch any of those un-"reality" shows04:02
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Ahmuckclick the button on top that says "apply changes"04:03
draikHPdvd64004:03
allengouldk04:03
draikAny known issues?04:03
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allengoulddownloading stuff04:03
draikMy friend's desktop has the HP Lightscribe DVD burner04:03
AhmuckXsteelWolf: k, manual configuration i need to enter my ESSID04:04
XsteelWolfcan you paste me out a sample?04:04
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Ahmuckso i am DHCP, but using a ESSID04:04
draikIt can read a DVD and play for a while, but when it comes to burning, it will crap out automatically.04:04
BluesKajdraik, so is mine , it works just fine04:04
Ahmuckin my case because my ESSID or SSID is hidden04:04
siliconcpuJucato - u still there?04:04
draikAll other DVDs will play/read for a while and then die04:04
draikBluesKaj: Any necessary drivers?04:04
Ahmuckallengould: so what do you like to do on a computer - software program wise?04:04
Jucatosiliconcpu: now that you called me, yes....04:04
BluesKajmine's the 740 , draik04:05
siliconcpulol04:05
draikAny major diff from 740 to 640? Can you write on the DVD as intended (lightscribe)?04:05
makuserudoes anyone have any experiance with morotola phones and linux?04:05
siliconcpuJucato - it's there@@04:05
siliconcpu!!!04:05
AhmuckXsteelWolf: heh, forget the manual04:05
siliconcpu!!04:05
BluesKajno drivers required , works right out of the box04:05
Jucatosiliconcpu: !!04:05
XsteelWolfwhy?04:05
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Jucatosiliconcpu: so it's ok now?04:05
Ahmuckthere is an option for "configure other wireless network"04:05
siliconcpuwell, let me try this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty for instructions04:06
Ahmuckenter in the ESSID and then you have an option for usign WPA, etc.04:06
BluesKajdraik, i haven't bothered trying the lightscribe04:06
draikBluesKaj: Do you know if it works?04:06
compilerwriterok gentlemen I have been trying out differen DE's and somehow some of my settings for kde got botched.  I have some really funky background settings goin on now.  How do I get them back?04:06
BluesKajdunno04:06
Ahmuckallengould: so, you like graphics, music, movies, programming?04:06
XsteelWolfI did that option.04:07
draikBluesKaj: What media do you use, brand-wise?04:07
XsteelWolfit doesn't connect04:07
Ahmucki can point you to some great applications04:07
XsteelWolfall i got to was only 28%,stuck,and knetwork manager crash04:07
AhmuckXsteelWolf: your own router or some inet cafe?04:07
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XsteelWolfmy own04:07
BluesKajfuji, memorex, sony verbatim04:07
AhmuckXsteelWolf: you don't have mac filtering on your router enabled do you?04:07
XsteelWolfnope04:08
XsteelWolfim able to connect through vista on same laptop04:08
XsteelWolfjust not knetwork manager04:08
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Daisuke_Laptopyour wireless card isn't listed in /etc/network/interfaces is it?04:08
Ahmuckthe knetworkmanager has crashed?  you'll need to restart it i suspect.  i am in unkown territory now04:08
Ahmuckhas your wireless worked in an open system?04:09
michaelpohow do i get options globetrotter 3g card working? i've installed gcom.. then i run the command at terminal: gcom -d /dev/noz0... it seems i'm connected to the 3g... but... how do i get ubuntu to connect through the 3g card? how do i setup at the -> system -> network?04:09
Daisuke_Laptopoh...  is it wep?04:09
michaelpoSIM ready04:09
michaelpoWaiting for Registration..(120 sec max)04:09
michaelpoRegistered on Home network: "MY MAXIS",204:09
michaelpoSignal Quality: 20,9904:09
draikBluesKaj: He's using Maxell. Any issues with this brand?04:09
allengouldI rarely use irc. you get my replies ahmuck?04:09
Ahmucknope.04:09
Daisuke_Laptoptry wep 64-bit hex04:09
allengouldhmm.04:09
BluesKajnone that I'm aware of , draik04:09
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allengouldhow do you whisper to someone?04:09
XsteelWolfim on wpa-psk04:10
Daisuke_Laptopmedia brand means very little next to media manufacturer04:10
Ahmuck /msg04:10
allengouldhaha04:10
draikI'm trying to narrow down to one issue or something that will tell me "THIS IS THE PROBLEM!!!"04:10
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FIRESIDE91What's the hammer for?04:11
AhmuckTHIS IS YOUR SOLUTION :-)04:11
draikWITHOUT creating a new issue04:11
allengouldyou get that response ahmuck?04:11
FIRESIDE91What are we breaking up?04:11
draikFIRESIDE91: Same friend. His HPDVD640 drive won't burn or read DVDs before dying.04:11
BluesKajlightscribe not working draik ?...that's not surprising most of the lightscribe software is buggy from what I've heard.04:11
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draikI don't know if he's even tried it when he had winxp04:11
Daisuke_Laptopthat 640i is perhaps the biggest piece of crap i ever owned04:12
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Daisuke_Laptopit lasted a couple months04:12
Daisuke_Laptopdid a couple lightscribe burns04:12
Daisuke_Laptopand the whole thing went all wahoonie-shaped04:12
Ahmuckallengould: nope04:12
BluesKajlightscribe isn't ready for primetime , methinks04:13
draikI never cared for it04:13
FIRESIDE91Big business loves to push out alpha technologies just to make more $$$04:13
allengoulddid you get my response to your message ahmuck? lol04:13
draikMy friend keeps insisting that it's got something to do with drivers. I don't, but I thought I'd humor him04:14
BluesKajdvd burners are cheap anyway04:14
FIRESIDE91LiteOn DVD drives and NEC DVD drives are the best04:14
draikI have a Memorex CD Burner with DVD read and a Memorex DVD DL Burner04:15
Ahmuckallengould: nope04:15
FIRESIDE91I have some random DVD drive (READ-ONLY) and a KHypermedia CD-RW in my system....really old drives (98 era)04:15
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allengouldeh, well. ok ahmuck, they were installed. now how do I access firefox?04:16
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AhmuckK --> Internet --> Firefox04:17
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BluesKajthe HP 740b is still working just fine after 18mos04:17
allengouldcool, got it04:17
Ahmucknp04:17
allengouldnot registered btw04:17
Ahmuck /msg nickserv register04:18
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chris_how do i change the resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it shows in system settings04:18
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draikSorry, minor hiccup there04:18
draikHad to reboot04:18
Ahmuckallengould: /join #somechannel04:18
draik740b? Is that the following model?04:19
BluesKajdunno04:19
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chris_how do i change the resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it shows in system settings, i can barely see windows because it fills more than the full screen04:20
BluesKajdraik, it came with the compaq presario SR1734X pc ...to me one dvd burner is pretty much the same as any other04:20
Ahmuckchris_: K --> system settings --> monitor and display04:21
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draikBluesKaj: He added his to the pos Dell he purchased through his job04:21
chris_i know that04:21
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chris_but i cant get any higher than 640 x 48004:21
Mr_Sonomachris_, what video card do you have?04:22
BluesKajdraik, will it burn anything ?04:22
Ahmuckis your hardware set right?04:22
draikNope04:22
chris_1 sec, well anyways i could go to a higher res in xp..04:22
lewixdamn04:22
draikIf you put a DVD movie in, it will show about 5 mintues tops04:22
lewixI hate xchat04:22
FIRESIDE91So do I now04:23
draikBlank DVD... k3b sees it for a split second and then it's gone. k3b won't even see the drive in the settings04:23
draikOnce it dies, it keep the DVD inside04:23
BluesKajlewix, konversation !04:23
lewixit doesnt log long conversation on the channel04:23
FIRESIDE91chris_ : What res could you it in XP?04:23
lewixi mean the channel window04:23
FIRESIDE91lewix: You can make xchat do logging04:23
lewixFIRESIDE91, i know but i would like to see it when i scroll up04:23
chris_um, like 1200 x 700 around there i think04:24
FIRESIDE91oooo04:24
Mr_Sonomayou can increase the buffer i believe in xchat04:24
FIRESIDE91chris_: widescreen?04:24
chris_ya04:24
FIRESIDE91How big is the monitor?04:24
lewix17inch04:24
chris_just like 15 inch, hd monitor04:24
FIRESIDE91ahh04:25
FIRESIDE91hold on sec04:25
chris_kk ty04:25
draiksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    ?04:25
FIRESIDE91chris: are you sure the resolution wasn't 1440x900 ?04:25
chris_ya im pretty sure04:26
FIRESIDE91Do you have a XP partition you can boot into?04:26
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chris_i just deleted it, i was gona make one but i havnt had time yet just got this distro04:27
draikWhat is the Linux equivalent of m$ money?04:27
Ahmuckdraik: you can't "eject"04:27
FIRESIDE91draik: Gnucash04:27
Ahmuck draik, kymymoney04:27
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chris_should i look online for my video cards drivers?04:27
lewixL$ money04:27
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FIRESIDE91chris: well. use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:27
Ahmuckhomebank?04:27
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chris_ok04:28
panpillowtssob, someone claimed my nick04:28
panpillowtshow dare they04:28
panpillowtsi am the only pillowpants04:28
FIRESIDE91uhmm... /nickserv?04:28
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silicon2k7kubuntu works with my ethernet but not wireless, hmmm04:29
silicon2k7does kubuntu work better with WEP or WPA?04:29
junkeRhello can someone help me w/ partioning a drive?04:29
lewixwhy do u use pillows as pants04:29
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lewixpanpillowts,04:29
lewixjunkeR, knoppix04:29
panpillowtslewix: if you havent seen clerks, i wont explain04:29
AhmuckjunkeR: what do you need?04:29
junkeRI installed kubuntu using the entire harddrive, but I would like to resize it and make a ntfs partition of like 5 gigs04:29
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draikjunkeR: QTparted04:30
Ahmuckor gparted04:30
draik5 gigs?04:30
panpillowtshow might i get a divx plugin to work for my feisty amd64 browser?04:30
draikThat's hardly enough for an NTFS-compatible OS04:30
lewixmake the linux partition 5go04:30
junkeRwell... I basically want to play starcraft04:30
junkeRand wine didn't run it all that well IIRC04:31
lewixi dont use linux for multimedia so I dont need that much space04:31
junkeRI want battle.net support to play online04:31
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FIRESIDE91panpillowts: Uhm.....sudo apt-get install libxine0-ffmpeg ?04:31
BluesKajpanpillowts, ffmpeg04:31
panpillowtsFIRESIDE91: ill search for it04:31
FIRESIDE91lewix: multimedia?  That takes more space than starcraft, besides, I though starcraft ran under WINE?04:31
draikjunkeR: Have you tried Cedega?04:31
silicon2k7Jucato: u there?04:31
junkeRyea but that costs money!04:32
lewixFIRESIDE91, i didnt get you04:32
FIRESIDE91WINE (READ: FREE) runs starcraft04:32
chris_just make a windows parition04:32
FIRESIDE91lewix: sudo apt-get install wine .......04:32
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BluesKajgamrez , buy a Wii or PS or....04:32
draikFIRESIDE91: You're right. I think it runs really easy under WINE04:33
panpillowtsjunkeR: i nabbed a pirated cedega over bit torrent easy, one doesnt have to pay if one does not want to04:33
panpillowtsjust to let you know04:33
junkeRI did that too...04:33
junkeRbut it was an older version04:33
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junkeRcan cedega run starcraft flawless w/ battle.net support?04:33
FIRESIDE91panpillowts: You know this channel is logged?04:33
_pillowpantsjunkeR: i had it working once04:34
_pillowpantsbnet gives everything trouble though04:34
FIRESIDE91junkeR: WINE, without the cedega patches, runs starcraft just fine...04:34
draik_pillowpants: So, I see you like to be your own undertaker04:34
_pillowpantsFIRESIDE91: depends, it runs a little laggy on my system04:34
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junkeRwell a little lag is always fine.. but.04:34
draik_pillowpants: Depends on your specs, then.04:34
FIRESIDE91http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=14904:34
junkeRI'll try wine I guess04:34
intelikeyand what an undertaking it is...04:34
_pillowpantsjunkeR: youll probably have no trouble with wine04:34
draikjunkeR: Go to the link FIRESIDE91 has provided you04:35
Jucatosilicon2k7: sorry just got back04:35
BluesKajbah , play it in windows ...just setup a ntfs partition04:35
intelikeythoughts on  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39605 ?04:35
junkeRso the only thing that doesn't work is UDP netplay?04:35
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junkeRoh wait.  I also want to play simcity 2000 as well!!04:35
FIRESIDE91simcity 2000 should run as well...04:36
junkeRthat didn't run too good on Wine.. no music or SFX at all04:36
junkeRbut I miss the awesome music, etc.04:36
FIRESIDE91simcity 2000 is old anyways...04:36
intelikeyyeah ancient04:37
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FIRESIDE91though that means it should run...annoying04:37
intelikeyeight years !    no one in their right mind would ever run any code that old ....04:37
intelikey</carscasm>04:38
FIRESIDE91junkeR: Try out Lincity-NG04:38
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BluesKajhey intelikey , i know some ppl who still run W98 and won't change :)04:38
_pillowpantsintelikey: starcraft is older than that04:38
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Mr_Sonomalol intelikey ...... i wont mention any DOS 3.x systems running around my house then *grin*04:39
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FIRESIDE91O.o Mr_Sonoma04:39
intelikeyno one reads html anymore ???04:39
FIRESIDE91I read HTML....do you intelikey?04:39
_pillowpantsMr_Sonoma: you actually have dos systems running at your house? what do you use them for?04:40
draikI deal with HTML all day04:40
intelikeyguess not... FIRESIDE91 </rant_on_ancent code>04:40
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draikWhat is simcity anyway? I played the Sims with the expansion, but that's as far as that went04:41
Mr_SonomaDOS system running MFJcom (a ham radio Terminal Node Controller software) on a Tandy 1000RL04:41
Mr_Sonomawith the color CGA monitor04:41
FIRESIDE91O.o04:41
BluesKajhey ,ancient codes wrote the bible :)04:41
draikBluesKaj: LOL04:41
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FIRESIDE91I wish I still had that old NeXTCube....04:41
_pillowpantsMr_Sonoma: nifty04:41
draikWhich one of the many?04:42
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Mr_Sonomait does the job nicely for 1200 bps signals04:42
FIRESIDE91BluesKaj: But no one cares about the bible anywhere04:42
FIRESIDE91The correct joke: But...but....ancient codes wrote ENIAC!04:42
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intelikey:)04:43
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draik<Homer - Simpsons Movie> This book doesn't have any answers </Homer - Simpsons Movie>04:43
evan_is it possiable to hide the bar at the very top of konsole, the bar w/ the close, minimize... buttons? i read the man pages but saw nothing relating to that04:43
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junkeRalright, I downloaded QTParted but I am unable to change the partition sizes04:44
chris_evan_: fullscreen04:44
draikjunkeR: Once you downloaded QTparted, did you run it?04:44
FIRESIDE91junkeR: What did you format your partition as?04:44
evan_chris: ok thats what i want, just not fullscreen04:44
draikIt's not going to partition itself04:44
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BluesKajFIRESIDE91, oh you speak for ppl everywhere ?04:45
Mr_Sonomaevan_, you could go to a tty login by hitting cntrl + alt + F1 but remember you have to hit cntrl + alt + F7 to get back to the gui04:45
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chris_evan_:  ok then i dont know how for sure04:45
FIRESIDE91Yes it is draik, computers are magic04:45
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evan_chris_:thanks04:45
junkeRalright it's a 40 GB drive.  36 is EXT3 and 1.5 linux swap04:45
draikMy common response to our members "It's internet magic. We control the internet fairies"04:45
junkeRI want to take 5 GB from the ext3 and make it NTFS04:45
junkeRI am running qtparted 0.4.5 right now04:46
evan_Mr_Sonoma: thats not quite what i want either, thanks tho04:46
draikjunkeR: How big is your HDD. I'd go 10GB for the sake of having that necessary space04:46
chris_ooo04:46
chris_evan_:  click on to left icon and go to no border04:46
_pillowpantsyeah, im actually looking to repartition a big fat32 section, which program would i use?04:46
junkeRI guess I can always just reinstall kubuntu using the correct partition sizes.... but that'd take a couple hours of my time04:47
lewixi need a shell04:47
junkeRthe hard drive is 40 gb total04:47
draiklewix: Snail? Turtle? Crab?04:47
chris_evan_: top left icon, advanced, no border] 04:47
lewixdoes someone have a server and is willing to give mme a shell lol04:47
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lewixdraik, what's that04:48
draikjunkeR: You can have 10 to ntfs and the rest to ext304:48
draiklewix: shells04:48
junkeRyea that sounds good. but the program is not allowing me to resize the ext3 partition04:48
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lewixdraik, it does not really matter. I just want to exercise04:48
junkeRthe status of the drive is 'busy'04:48
steven_eh04:48
lewixwith remote shells04:48
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steven_when I run compiz fusion I dont get the little window things where I can drag around04:49
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draikWait...04:49
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draikYou can't run QTParted on a live partition. Can you? I think you're better off using the LiveCD for QTParted while leaving your Kubuntu partition alone.04:49
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junkeRoh okay.. so boot up a live cd, install qtparted then I can resize?04:50
draikNo need to install QTParted, it's on the LiveCD04:50
draikYes04:50
junkeRI figured I'd have to do a safe mode of some sort.  I completely forgot about the live CD04:50
junkeRokay, I will do that.04:50
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junkeRthanks a lot!04:50
draikWelcome04:50
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draikI need my memory pills04:50
draikQuick relapse with "drive is busy"04:51
lewixlol draik ..I thoufht the 'wait..' was for me04:51
FIRESIDE91who needed a shell?04:51
draikFIRESIDE91: lewix did04:51
FIRESIDE91for what purpose did he need it?04:51
FIRESIDE91lewix: You aren't planning on running a botnet are you?04:51
lewixFIRESIDE91, no..I just want to experiment04:52
FIRESIDE91=P04:52
intelikeyhehhe....04:52
tzangergood evening04:52
FIRESIDE91I remember quite a few free shells around the net...they're good depending on what you want to do04:52
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tzangeris there an easy way to install kubuntu to a single system, and then mirror that installation to a dozen other identical systems?  short of taking the drive out and literally copying it I mean04:53
lewixFIRESIDE91, just try one for the first time..lol and do whatever I can04:53
FIRESIDE91tzanger: netboot maybe?04:53
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draiktzanger: Ghost?04:53
tzangerFIRESIDE91: how does that help?  I need these systems to be installed identically, but they'll each diverge as time goes on04:53
tzangerdraik: hmm I was hoping for some kind of apt-cache store-state command that would give me a file that I could feed to apt-get make-identical or something :-)04:54
tzangerI'm just talking that the systems would have identical package sets and so on04:54
FIRESIDE91lzanger: How about make a script that installs everything on top of Kubuntu...04:54
tzangeryeah I think I may have to end up doing that04:55
FIRESIDE91Not that bad...you COULD remaster the CD, but you might run out of space and paitence...04:55
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draikFIRESIDE91: I had a MAJOR issue doing that. I tried and failed04:55
FIRESIDE91draik: Doing what again?04:56
draikFIRESIDE91: remastering my own. It went from CD to DVD... almost DL DVD04:56
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FIRESIDE91lol04:56
draikI have a 500GB HDD. 347GB going to Kubuntu, 112GB to ntfs and 4GB as swap04:57
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tzangerFIRESIDE91: apparently you can use dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections to get all the packages lined up, and I think rsync or tar will let me get any /etc changes I made by hand04:59
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tzangeranyway I need to get some sleep... ttyl and thanks04:59
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CombatjuanHow do I set up a user that is "chrooted" to a particul directory and has only read permissions for the things in that directory and its subdirectories?05:02
CombatjuanI guess I man a user that doesn't really have a home directory.  (This would be for ssh logins and access to certain files).05:03
FIRESIDE91Combatjuan: That's a little hard to do05:03
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intelikey!jail05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:04
CombatjuanFIRESIDE91:  That's why I'm here.  (-805:04
intelikey!chroot05:04
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box05:04
intelikeypfft05:04
BluesKaj!info jail05:04
ubotujail: Just Another ICMP Logger. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.6-6 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 140 kB05:04
CombatjuanKeep trying.  (-805:05
stdin!info schroot05:05
ubotuschroot: Execute commands in a chroot environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.5-1 (feisty), package size 467 kB, installed size 1440 kB05:05
CombatjuanWell, I could give them a regular home directory with symlinks to the places I want them to have access to.  But how do I keep them from running programs and whatnot?05:05
intelikeyoh i thought there might be an infonode on that.    but alas     and behold, "i thought"05:06
stdinintelikey: add one :p05:06
intelikeythere are some good howto's already on the web.   look for "chroot jail"05:06
BluesKajsacktime again  *v*  nite all05:07
intelikeystdin i'm to lazy.  and lag to much.05:07
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stdinintelikey: you lag? I'm compiling the whole of kde4 on my laptop here :P "04:07:36 up 5 days, 16:47,  4 users,  load average: 3.48, 3.07, 2.49"05:08
Jucato*all*?!?!05:08
stdinpretty much05:08
intelikeybut i'm downloading the internet over a 22k dialup  that disconnects every thirty minutes.....05:08
Jucatoall modules?05:08
stdinkdelibs kdepimlibs kdebase kdemultimedia kdegames etc......05:09
Combatjuanstdin: If you like spending your time compiling then I think you belong in #gentoo.  (-805:09
FIRESIDE91intelikey: Teh whole internet?05:09
Jucatoouch...05:09
JucatoCombatjuan: um.. there's no way to get KDE 4 other than compiling...05:09
CombatjuanI know.  I'm just joking.05:10
Jucato:P05:10
intelikeyFIRESIDE91 might as well be...    kubuntu-desktop $ ubuntu-desktop05:10
FIRESIDE91Sometime after 7.10 comes out packages for KDE4 will exist...05:10
FIRESIDE91intellikey: ???05:10
stdinI'm to lazy to use gentoo, "Gentoo person: What compiler flags you using?, Stdin: hu?"05:10
Jucatostdin: just use the defaults then heheh :)05:11
Jucato(or ask some KDE user what his USE flags are :P)05:11
Jucatoor or....05:11
Jucatouse Kubuntu!05:11
stdinJucato: ahh, but that's not the gentoo way :p05:11
n8k99gentoo way is that above or below lois lane?05:12
intelikeydon't forget the lag.     you type something,  then in five minutes i read it and answer, then in another five minutes you see my answer,,, after you forgot you asked me anything....05:12
FIRESIDE91My issue with K/Ubuntu is the binaries are for i386!05:12
stdineveryone say quiet for a while, intelikey will think his connection died :p05:12
stdinFIRESIDE91: i486 actually05:13
FIRESIDE91Why not i586 at least, i686 would be nicer though...05:13
intelikeystdin actually that works....   don't tell them....   ;/05:13
FIRESIDE91Well...then again...Xubuntu can run on 486 class machines...05:13
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stdini486 is generic enough to work on all systems (except actual 386 boxes)05:14
intelikeyubuntu will run on i38605:14
intelikeyand i486 +05:14
FIRESIDE91SUSE uses i686....and the binaries run on most systems.....SUSE just sucks though05:14
thomassdoes anyone know how to change the introduction message you get when you connect to an ssh server05:15
FIRESIDE91I just hate fscking with gentoo05:15
FIRESIDE91thomass: depends on the server05:15
thomassFIRESIDE91: yes its my server05:16
thomassFIRESIDE91: i would like to change the greeting message05:16
intelikeythomass /etc/motd & /etc/issue.net05:16
FIRESIDE91rtfm?  Sorry, don't know much about SSH greetings...05:16
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FIRESIDE91thanks intelikey05:16
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LeeJunFanintelikey, thomass: there's a variable you need to change in /etc/defaults somewhere too I think so it doesn't get overwritten.05:17
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FIRESIDE91Anyone know how to compile gentoo so it works fast, but actually looks good?  I got it and GNOME running once but the fonts and stuff were godawful05:18
stdinumm, this isn't a gentoo support channel05:18
FIRESIDE91lol05:18
FIRESIDE91true05:18
LeeJunFanwell I don't see it in gutsy anywhere.05:19
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lewix"why were you laughing like crazy"05:19
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thomassintelikey: i have no folders05:19
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LeeJunFanthomass: which version of ubuntu are you using?05:19
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LeeJunFanthomass: you might want to look at /etc/default/rcS - and change the line EDITMOTD= if it's set to yes.05:20
thomassLeeJunFan: edgy05:20
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LeeJunFanthomass: okay, not sure when it disappeared, that variable is still set in dapper, I'm in gutsy at the moment and it's not on here.05:21
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jhutchinsprintmotd is a useful variable in sshd_config05:21
jhutchinsFIRESIDE91: Yes, wipe it and install kubuntu or mandriva.05:22
FIRESIDE91Mandriva?  /shiver05:22
FIRESIDE91RPM hell that was....worse than RH9...05:22
thomassLeeJunFan: ok I really don't know what these folders and files are........what should I google?05:23
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LeeJunFanthomass: it's just a text file in /etc/default  the name of the file is rcS, there's a line reading EDITMOTD=yes by default05:24
FIRESIDE91thomass: You don't know what /etc is?05:24
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thomassLeeJunFan: hehe actualy i don't have editmotd in there05:25
thomassFIRESIDE91: its etcetera but not sure exactly what its for05:26
LeeJunFanthomass: okay, must have been dropped in edgy then.05:26
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intelikeyspace    ^   edit motd05:26
stdinthomass: it's not "etcetera"05:26
LeeJunFanthomass: /etc is where system wide configuration files are generally kept.05:26
intelikeyas in;        sudo nano /etc/motd05:26
thomassLeeJunFan: system wide?05:27
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thomassLeeJunFan: anyway configuration files ok cool05:27
LeeJunFanthomass: yes, as opposed to application config like kde or gnome config which will be kept in your home dir.05:27
intelikeythomass as opposed to user specific05:28
LeeJunFan/etc will have things like X config, Apache, PHP, postfix, and others.05:28
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Dr_Willisamazing how much stuff is in /etc/05:28
thomassawww ok05:28
stdinany sort of editable text config file05:28
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thomassalright good to konw05:28
Dr_Willislinux FUNdamentals05:28
thomasso well what do I google to learn about changing the message?05:28
Jucato(linux fundeMENTALs)05:29
Dr_Willisthe motd? its jsut a text file. I thought it got generated on the fly by a boot script however.05:29
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thomassok well gnight guys and thanks05:30
thomassor girls05:30
Dr_Willisi always disabel the showing of the motd anyway05:30
wo0fwhere is the auto update in kubuntu??05:30
Dr_Willisauto update? hmm . theres a update manager tool that should be in the panel.05:31
_2well i cut down my offline time with a script.  but i'm still getting reset "OFTEN" !05:31
wo0fcalled?05:31
riefzugood question, i want too..05:31
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wo0fanyone?05:32
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siliconcpuDoes anyone have a D-link DI-624 router?05:32
albertmkQuestion:Any good tutorial about "how to install compiz-fusion on Kubuntu"?05:32
Jucatowo0f: adept_notifier will notify you if updates are avaiable. if there aren't any, it won't show on your system tray05:33
Jucato!compiz-fusion05:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:33
wo0fJucato: cheers.05:33
siliconcpuJucato:  =P05:33
Jucatosiliconcpu: so how did it go?05:33
siliconcpuwell, the ethernet portion works!05:33
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siliconcpuyet, the wireless doesn't05:34
wo0fwtf, why is there no root with ubuntu05:34
wo0fsux05:34
siliconcpuI have a D-link DI-624 router and i'm wondering if that is causing issues05:34
Jucato!root | wo0f05:34
ubotuwo0f: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:34
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siliconcpuJucato: So now I am just searching users who have a DI-624 because i have seen problems getting it to work with wireless =(05:35
wo0flol05:35
wo0fyeh05:35
wo0fprefer su pal.05:35
Jucatoread the link05:35
wo0fneg05:35
wo0fat least aptitude still works05:37
Jucato??05:38
wo0f?05:38
Jucatowhy wouldn't it work?05:38
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Agent_boboh btw.  i got the "BSOD" issue fixed.  it was the kernel causing it.05:39
fiyawerxi need something fun to do05:39
Agent_bobfiyawerx there is no such thing.05:40
fiyawerxheh05:40
fiyawerxjust got my install all updated, now i dont know what to do other than boot back into windows for some 214205:40
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fiyawerxanyone know any good linux games?05:42
underdog5004!tremulous05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tremulous - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:42
underdog5004!info tremulous05:42
ubotutremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3 (feisty), package size 645 kB, installed size 1516 kB05:42
underdog5004very fun05:42
fiyawerxhm, will try it :)05:42
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fiyawerxgot an 8800gts going to waste here05:42
Dr_Willisthat game makes me Dizzy...05:43
Dr_Willis:)05:43
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underdog5004Dr_Willis, true05:44
wo0fwhere is the restricted drivers menu?05:44
underdog5004especially if you play as alien05:44
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riefzuada orang indonesia disini?05:45
johnhow do you use Libparmetis3.1?05:45
Jucato!id | riefzu05:46
uboturiefzu: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia05:46
fiyawerxanyone play sauerbraten?05:46
wo0fanyone know where the restricted drivers menu is located within kubuntu05:46
wo0f?05:46
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johni need help with libparmetis, can anyone help me?05:47
fiyawerxwoOf, on gutsy at least, it's : system settings -> advanced tab05:47
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Dr_Willisfiyawerx thats a good game also.. works great on low end machines as well.05:48
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fiyawerxDr_Willis: it's fun, defintaely has potential, i love a lot of the maps, just not thrilled about the gameplay as much05:48
Dr_Willisrun around killing things. :)05:48
Dr_Willisits more fun at a lan party vs ya friends05:49
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underdog5004what game isn't?05:56
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scheater5Does anyone know anything about "Davinci Techonlogy" or TI processors?06:04
fiyawerxheh, this game is neat06:05
fiyawerxre: tremulous06:05
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cpk1!sound06:23
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:23
riefzuscheather5:look at :http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/landing/davinci/index.html06:23
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fiyawerx!compiz-fusion06:26
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:26
yashaHello06:27
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yashaho is speac to Russian . My Inglish is not good06:27
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enzo_!ru | yasha06:30
ubotuyasha:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:30
enzo_dang it. Just missed yasha06:30
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greencookiehi:)06:34
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greencookieCan anyone help me setup java in SciTe?06:35
greencookiehello:)06:37
greencookie!javac06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:37
greencookie!sciTE06:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:38
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greencookieHelp:)06:39
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greencookieNVM:) I figured it out:) Yay!06:41
lnx_how i can put gnome or xfce panel aplets in kde panel ?06:42
scheater5greencookie: the beauty of lateral thinking.  I just got here and saw your questioning, for future reference the custom is to just fire away, and if anyone knows how to help they'll respond.06:42
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greencookiescheater5: Thanks:)06:44
greencookieI needed to do this Java homework, just finished installing ubuntu, somehow managed to install Java SDK6, SciTE was easy, but my program wasnt compiling.06:45
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greencookieTurns out to be my first lesson in java programing. Always name your file as the [classname] .java :):)06:46
greencookie!ot greencookie06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ot greencookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:47
greencookieKDE or GNOME? :)06:48
scheater5why do you ask?06:49
lnx_in kate how i can not to see a point when i click on aspace ?06:49
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garfieldempty06:51
garfieldweird06:51
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garfieldit's only 1 in the morning06:52
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melodyHello06:52
garfieldyo06:52
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melodyquick question.... I have my synaptic touchpad setup nicely with ksynaptics on kubuntu.  But, whenever I restart/relog onto the machine the settings for ksynaptics are not applied until I open the systray icon/app, alter one setting and then hit "apply"..then the ksynaptic settings come into affect again.  is there a fix to have ksynaptic load its settings by default?06:54
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greencookieI ask KDE or GNOME because I thought I liked KDE better but found out I could use all KDE apps in GNOME which I feel has a smoother interface :):)07:02
greencookiejust wanted to hear some opinions. ^_^07:02
Lynouregreencookie: the only opinion that matters is yours07:03
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LynoureMost here use kde, you can tell that without asking07:04
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Mr_Sonomagnome is nice, but i like the one click of KDE better also KDE for me has a more appealing feel07:06
Mr_Sonomamy wife likes XFCE but isnt terribly used to the interface so she defaults to the more familar KDE most of the time.07:07
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Doctor_NickI think after KDE 4 comes out, they'll be a general movement towards KDE and GNOME will stagnate07:12
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dsmithgnome is ummmm...07:16
dsmithugly07:16
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greencookieLol07:18
greencookieI dunno, but I find GNOME kinda friendly.07:18
dsmithaye, I could live with it07:19
greencookiePlus I play WoW :) Love them gnomes:) hehe07:19
dsmithbut i have a choice07:19
dsmith:P07:19
dsmithlol07:19
greencookieSo Ubuntu comes bundled up with only GNOME rite?07:19
greencookieno KDE.07:19
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phoenixzHi, I just installed kubuntu on a dell latitude d620 laptop. Im trying to view some movies with either mplayer, or kaffeine, but kaffeine shows a black image, and mplayer crashes with "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 0 0"..07:20
dsmithgnome, kde, xfce sp?07:20
phoenixzAFAIK, I have all drivers ok installed, I run compiz-fusion without problem..07:20
phoenixzI have the w32 codecs also installed07:20
phoenixzwhat could be the cause of this problem??07:20
dsmithdos it work when compiz is off?07:20
greencookiegstreamer plugin? I dunno I'm new to Linux n stuff but thats the first thing i installed07:21
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greencookieand i think something called libdecode for dvd titles.07:21
greencookiehttp://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/02/13-things-to-do-immediately-after.html07:22
phoenixzdsmith, dunno, how do I turn compiz off? :)07:22
dsmithd620, isn't that a fairly new laptop?07:22
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cpk1argh I cant get my spdif out to work07:23
cpk1anyone have any experience with getting spdif out working?07:23
phoenixzdsmith, fgood question, I got it for my work :)07:24
dsmithdoesn't it have a ay to default back to kwin?07:24
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dsmithgreencookie: hmmmm, I read thru that for the 13th time. I should have installed Kubuntu as ext2. No wonder windows wont R/W to it07:25
dsmithi dont like gdesklets either07:26
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cpk1if you have ext3 you can still r/w from windows07:27
dsmithit acts funny for me07:28
dsmithworks but then it wont work07:28
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dsmithphoenixz: Can you play dvd's at all?07:29
Ahmuckwhat's the deal with registering with launchpad before submitting an error report?07:29
dsmithyou can try wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free/i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb07:29
dsmithsudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.de07:29
dsmithsudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb07:29
FunnyLookinHatAhmuck, keeps spam out.07:30
FunnyLookinHatAnd it allows us to track user submissions, karma, etc.  It's a good thing, trust me.  : D07:31
Ahmuckah, well, it keeps my bug report out to07:31
dsmithheh07:31
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Ahmuckyou would think they could create some type of error reporting for *buntu distro that would report properly07:31
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dsmiththats too much like M$07:32
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Jucatoany (decent) bug tracker requires an account in that particular tracker. why should Ubuntu be any different?07:34
bobbiacwell .. here goes .. ditching Debian for Kubuntu07:34
bobbiaci feel so .. uncomfortable07:34
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Jucatohave fun :)07:35
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bobbiacoh .. does syslinux care if it's on a DVD+RW?07:35
Jucatosyslinux?07:36
bobbiacthe live cd07:36
Jucatonope07:36
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Jucatodoesn't care07:36
Ahmuck cause if your looking for feedback from gusty, you lost this user, i don't want to have to go to the trouble of creating an account, logging in, just to submit a gutsy bug report, eh, somebody else is likely to run accross it so i'll just let them do it07:36
Ahmuckbobbiac: you have made a good decision, welcome to user land07:37
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bobbiacmost linux live cds boot from syslinux, then to the kernel, instead of from GRUB07:37
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bobbiacthat, and that fact that ubuntu's volume of traffic on freenode07:39
bobbiacis quite heavy07:39
bobbiacbut w/e07:39
bobbiacbig family07:39
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bobbiacmore "money makers"07:40
bobbiacso this week's gusty.. stable enough to play around with?07:40
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bobbiacgutsy*07:40
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JucatoAhmuck: sorry, that mentality just irks me.07:41
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bobbiachuh?07:42
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bobbiacVista didnt like iso's it seems07:43
Jucatodoes Vista still use that built-in Roxio thing? not sure if it burns ISO's at all07:44
AhmuckJucato: which mentality, the bug report or the welcom?07:44
Jucatothe former07:44
bobbiacapathy?07:45
Jucatoanyway, it's personal opinion... so nvm that07:45
bobbiacdid MS ever use roxio?07:45
Ahmuckyes, i understand07:45
Jucatobobbiac: in XP07:45
bobbiaci know they went and raped and pillaged winzip07:46
JucatoAhmuck: best I can tell you is 1) look for someone else to file the bug for you or 2) just ignore it07:46
bobbiacand zonealarm07:46
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AhmuckJucato: yes, that is the problem, i am just ignoring it.  but i did rant in ubuntu+1.  there is an easy solution to this, system fingerprinting, standard bug report headers and bot intelligence for classification and dups07:47
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Jucatoif you say so07:48
kujaHi, can anyone tell me why Firefox's user-interface isn't anti-aliasing under Ubuntu?  It doesn't anti-alias in both KDE and GNOME (though, I installed the Kubuntu CD).  I am currently using Kubuntu 7.04 AMD64.07:49
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_2have error http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3960707:50
_2but i doubt that the error message is the actual problem07:50
_2anyone got insight ?07:50
_2or even good guess ?07:51
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bobbiac_2: uhm .. nice nick?07:51
_2ty07:52
Jucatohe's supposed to be binary...07:52
_2that's pronounced    base two07:52
bobbiacyay for internet sarcasm07:52
bobbiacbut anyway07:52
bobbiacthat is very little info to go on07:53
_2that's all i have.    gui apps ya know.07:53
bobbiacwhen did this start, what were you doing at the time, etc, etc07:53
_2started  probably at install   first notice was installed "falcon's eye"07:54
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_2try to run it  and i get that message.07:54
_2only place i've seen anything like it so far.07:55
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bobbiachave you checked with the app's maintainer ?07:55
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bobbiacfalcon's eye or w/e07:56
bobbiacpty is pretty low level, iirc07:56
_2no i haven't checked any place but here so far.   it's probably not an app error either...  probably "most likely" something that's not suid and thinks it should be   or not a symlink and thinks it should be....07:57
_2but i don't mess with a GUI enough to even start tracking it down.07:58
bobbiacwhy not?07:58
bobbiacif you don't mind me asking07:58
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bobbiacheh07:59
_2just don't much like the pointy clicky thingy07:59
bobbiaccan you telnet outside of X?08:00
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_2i can do anything outside of X i can do in it.    or almost08:00
bobbiacor ssh, for that matter08:00
_2i'm not in X here08:00
bobbiacnod08:01
bobbiacirddi, if i remember right08:01
bobbiacerr irssi08:01
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_2bitchx   but yes irssi works too08:01
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michael-3142does any one know how to configure kxdocker for kde?08:01
_2and xchat-text   as well as others.08:02
bobbiachave you tried telnet in X11, then?08:02
bobbiacmicheal-3142 : dunno08:03
_2ah think i found it..   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3960808:03
_2near the end of that .xsession-error  log08:04
bobbiacwhy is gdm running?08:04
_2cause i started it08:04
michael-3142KDE is running08:04
_2yes08:04
michael-3142KDM08:04
_2no08:04
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_2kdm writes in /root   i don't use kdm08:05
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bobbiacyep .. that's a new panic for me08:06
bobbiactho i havent seen man08:06
bobbiacmany*08:06
michael-3142I am running kubuntu not gnome08:07
bobbiacmicheal, sorry08:07
michael-3142sorry for what08:07
bobbiaci was talking to _208:08
_2i'm running linux with gdm and kde at the moment08:08
_2ls -l /usr/bin/kgrantpty08:08
_2-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5704 Jan 19  2038 /usr/bin/kgrantpty08:08
_2looks like it's not the   suid error  but the fact that the app failed.08:08
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_2app failed cause it couldn't change perms on /dev/something     and it couldn't do that because the system is mounted   nosuid   thus it thinks that the app is not marked suid.08:10
_2bobbiac no they play real nice togather08:10
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bobbiacmichael-3142: i havent troubleshot kde that much, so you would have to ask around in here08:10
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bobbiacmichael-3142: you might want to ask in #kde08:12
_2well i'll  move  ls -l /usr/bin/kgrantpty08:12
_2-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5704 Jan 19  2038 /usr/bin/kgrantpty08:12
_2ooops08:12
bobbiacheh08:12
bobbiacone of the reasons a window manager is nice08:12
_2well i'll move /usr/bin/kgrantpty  to some place safe and make   /usr/bin/kgrantpty  a symlink to /bin/true  then it should work08:13
michael-3142hello08:13
michael-3142does any one know how to configure kxdocker?08:13
_2bobbiac why   you never  paste the wrong buffer from GUI ?08:13
bobbiacall the time08:13
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Jucato(btw, kxdocker isn't a KDE app, despite the name)08:13
_2i seldom do from cli,  but that was one of them08:14
bobbiaceasier to catch imo, tho08:14
Jucatotoo late..08:14
bobbiacJucato: really? heh08:14
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Jucatohehe my bad.. I must be losing my mind a lot lately08:15
bobbiacwonder what it is, then08:15
Jucatokiba-dock is the GTK/GNOME one08:15
Jucatothis is embarrassing...08:15
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bobbiacwe all make mistakes08:16
JucatoI made 2 today... that's too much for me :(08:16
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bobbiachot damn this DVD drive is frackin loud08:16
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_2i think i remember what it wants.   it wants the pty to be 600 owned by the user08:18
_2that stinks.08:18
bobbiacdoes this weeks trunk include kde 4b2?08:18
Jucatohm?08:18
bobbiacgid's always annoyed me08:18
_2crap it's not that.08:19
bobbiacthe gutsy build, does it have the KDE beta08:19
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zoffix_Hi, my X crashed and now I am having a really hard time restoring my display settings. Is it somehow possible to restore X display settings to whatever was set when I've just installed the system?08:20
zoffix_Right now the resolution is either too small or too large. This is a laptop LCD display btw.08:21
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bobbiacthat's uhhh...08:21
bobbiacsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak08:22
zoffix_There gotta be some "detect the right thing" feature, The way it detected everything on the install :/ If I use the "detect monitor" button in the System Settings it detects the wrong thing (640x480 res and my monitor can do more than that.08:22
zoffix_Ok, let me try that08:22
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bobbiacwait08:22
bobbiacsudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg08:23
bobbiaci think08:23
bobbiacits been a while08:23
zoffix_ok, thanks. brb08:23
Jucato!fixres08:23
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:23
Jucatobah not that...08:24
Jucato!xconfig08:24
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes08:24
Jucatotoo late again!08:24
bobbiacyep08:24
bobbiacthat's it08:24
Jucato3 strikes. I'm out08:24
bobbiacset it o the VESA driver08:24
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Jucatohe's gone08:25
bobbiacdamn08:25
bobbiaci bet he nukes his xorg08:25
bobbiacwhich is bad08:25
Jucatoat least he doesn't nuke his /08:25
Jucatothat's worse :)08:26
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bobbiactoo true08:26
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bobbiacthat was fast08:26
bobbiac!xconfig08:26
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes08:26
bobbiaci love bots08:26
zoffix_I'm on dual core 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM :D08:26
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Jucato!botsnack08:26
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:26
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Jucatozoffix_: see that command from the bot08:27
bobbiacset it o the VESA driver08:27
martin_jj08:27
zoffix_Hm, looks like that fixed it. At least display is now "usual", even though IIRC my max res was higher than 1074x780 :/08:27
zoffix_ok, I'll read up, thanks08:27
bobbiacand 1024 x 76808:27
bobbiacthen find your gfx driver from nvidia or amd08:28
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bobbiacand run the script08:28
bobbiacalthough i'd hold off on amd atm08:28
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bobbiacthey just released a decent chunk of whitepapers(?) for their ati line08:29
bobbiacso an "open" driver is coming .. nvm08:30
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bobbiacnote to self: make sure to tell people to run dpkg outside of X08:31
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bobbiacoh, btw Jucato: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/08:32
cknightanyone played with KDE4.0?08:32
bobbiacgusty weekly08:32
bobbiaccknight: its shiny08:32
JucatoI see... it's even harder to get seeders for weekly builds :)08:32
bobbiacwell, yeah08:32
cknightexcellent, everything I wanted in a new desktop environment :)08:33
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bobbiaccknight: it's like Vista.. but unlike Vista it is reasonably stable in beta08:33
cknightIt is much speedier like I hear?08:34
Jucatolike Vista?!?! such blasphemy!08:34
bobbiachell my home basic still shits a brick weekly08:34
Jucato!kde408:34
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php08:34
bobbiacblue screens08:34
cknightyeah, yeah, yeah, but what do folk *think* about it?08:35
greencookieI need to get a crash course in JAVA. Anyone know ne good websites:) got my HW due tomorrow morning:)08:35
bobbiacshiny?08:35
greencookie!OT greencookie08:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ot greencookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:35
Jucatogreencookie: maybe ##java or #java08:36
cknightgreencookie, what's the HW?08:36
bobbiacuhm .. how grey do you want to figure on going green?08:36
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greencookiecknight: Write a Java program that will create and fill two one-dimensional arrays of integers, one containing positive integers, and the other containing negative integers08:36
greencookie^_^ heh.08:37
greencookieThats my HW.08:37
bobbiaclike off-white, grey, or i cant see my hand in front of my face "grey"?08:37
bobbiacowie08:37
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bobbiacwell .. i'll bbl08:38
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greencookieAnyone know of a good torrent site?08:40
Hueyif nothing is being sent to the sound card, 'cat /dev/dsp' shouldn't output anything, right?08:40
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Jucato!ot | greencookie08:41
ubotugreencookie: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:41
greencookieAh. Ty Jucato.08:42
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greencookieIs Gimp better than Photoshop?08:46
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CaelAHHH my eyes08:49
greencookie:) :P08:50
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Hueyis there a way to tell what process is using a kernel module?08:51
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Hueyi cannot modprobe -r it because it is being used, but lsmod shows that it's not another module that's using it08:51
Hueyor, is there a way to force-unmount a kernel module?08:51
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intelikeycould this be actually causing a problem with x apps ???   Xlib:  extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0".08:52
Caeli actuallycame seeking if someone has been able to sucessfully install and configureyaboot for a PPC mac to run OSX and kubuntu?08:52
Jucato!ppc08:53
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ08:53
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Caelthe readme included with it is alil confusing, i know this much it needs it own partition for its files08:54
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Caelits making it install is whats got me a lil confused08:55
=== intelikey don't have a mac
Caeli'm on my mac atm its a G3 iMac08:55
hangthedj#DhaGG#408:56
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Caeli know the easiest way would be make kubuntu the main os and only os, but i want to be able to boot between the two08:58
Caelit'd make things so easy if Bootcamp would run on PPC macs08:58
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om_hello09:01
om_im new linux user and i was trying sabayon gentoo but i found it kind of hard.. i hear this distro is easy and better? is this right?09:01
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geniiom_: If you are migrating from Windows, Kubuntu is a bit friendlier than most others :)09:05
greencookieHell yeah om_:09:05
greencookieGnome om_ :)09:05
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Caeli found (on pc end) kubuntu pretty easy09:06
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om_gnome? is not kubuntu kde?09:07
om_is kubuntu fast?09:08
om_fast boot?09:08
jombeenot really09:08
om_which distrois the faster?09:08
jombeebut that all depends on your definition of fast09:08
Caelwell Kubuntu is fast just.. not fast to boot09:09
jombeefastest... probably gentoo09:09
jombeebut I would have to say I'm a bit biased09:09
Caelof the Ubuntu distros if your looking for overallfast09:09
Caelxubuntu09:09
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jussi01om_: dsl09:12
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geniior puppylinux09:15
genii(fast boots)09:15
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waylandbillgentoo can be faster, but all the speed is lost in compiling as it's a sourced based distro. If you want faster, a faster system will be the most noticable.09:27
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jombeebut by the time you're done compiling, you're grateful for whatever system you've got09:28
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=== Jucato doesn't consider the compiling really that inconvenient..only the first hours/days to get a full GUI system running
Jucatoafter that, everything else can be done while you're doing something else...09:30
Jucatobut this isn't #gentoo :)09:30
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waylandbillIt's a good distro don't get me wrong. My only point is that improving the hardware will have a much bigger impact IMO.09:31
waylandbillof course that takes money though. :)09:31
Jucato(but optimization through compiling is just one, albeit an overhpyed by users, benefits of gentoo...)09:31
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waylandbilldoes compiling coffee use java source code?09:34
Jucato:)09:34
geniiwaylandbill: No, my coffee is open source ;)09:34
Jucato(technically, so is Java :P)09:35
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geniigeez it's 3:35am already09:36
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waylandbillubuntu used to have kernels optimized for different cpus, but I didn't notice hardly any difference between that and the i386 one. That's where optimization would have the most benefit... in the kernel.09:37
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geniiWell, see you all in 4 1/2 hours or so after I get home and get (hopefully) 3 3/4 hrs sleep before work....09:38
greencookiebye genii.09:38
geniigreencookie: gnite09:38
Jucato!generic09:38
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)09:38
greencookieHow do i know what version of Ubuntu I'm using? i wanna make sure I'm using the rite one for amd6409:39
Jucato!version | greencookie09:39
ubotugreencookie: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell09:39
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Jucatoto find out which kernel you are running, "uname -r"09:40
greencookie2.6.20-16-generic09:40
greencookieis that for amd64 machines?09:40
Jucatonope09:40
Jucato!amd6409:40
ubotuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.09:40
greencookie!tinyurl09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tinyurl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:41
Jucatohm?09:42
kujaI installed Kubuntu 7.04 (amd64), but I can't seem to figure out on my own, or with Google (even if my life depended on it) .. just *how* I can make Firefox either 1) inherit KDE's anti-aliasing or 2) inherit GNOME's anti-aliasing.  For other GTK apps, I have made them inherit GNOME's font settings (incluiding anti-aliasing).. but it would appear that Firefox and Thunderbird are too special.  Anyone got an idea?09:42
Jucatogreencookie: tinyurl is a service that aliases a short URL for a very long one09:42
Jucatojust click on that link09:42
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x2_please give me packet10:10
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bahrHi, is 10GB diskspace enough for kubuntu 7.04 to run perfectly without problems for desktop/normal/school use?10:37
SlimeyPeteshould be, yes.10:38
bahrOk I hope so, cause we are forced to use VS.Net and flash and other win appz, and I really don't want to be stuck only using windows due to limited harddisk space :S10:39
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Sbucat_il_peccathi i have problem with kubuntu i cannot encode with mencoder avi-to mov because i have not the last mencoder but..i cannot find where i can donwload it and how to install it10:50
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emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: have you ffmpeg?10:54
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Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: i have ffmpeg10:59
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Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: i am doing a easy interfaces in gambas 2 for convert any file =)11:00
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emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: did you try it?11:00
emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: ffmpeg -i input.avi output.mov11:00
Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: ok i wil try now with that =)11:01
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emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: nice, there is no good interface to convert video's11:03
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Neutrinuxhi! I have tiny fonts using nvidia-glx-new with kubuntu gutsy? someone to fix it?11:04
Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: it's in italian but i think it came soon in english see this http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=114002.011:05
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combiniohow can i rip cd with game on my disc so i can have a back-up of that game ? :) is in kub. some 'Alcohol' tool like in WinXP ? :)11:07
Sbucat_il_peccatcombinio: k3b11:07
Sbucat_il_peccatcombinio: just search it in adept manager (system--adeptmanager)11:08
combinioalready got that... but is this gonna make a rip of a game too ?11:08
combinioSbucat_il_peccat: type 'rip' ?11:08
combinioi've that program11:08
Sbucat_il_peccatsorry i ma busy now11:08
combinioSbucat_il_peccat: ok, thx for info :)11:08
emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: wait for a while, im on a low connection11:09
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emilsedghcombinio: create an image11:11
Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: mm i think you cannot see the picture..because you are not registred into ubuntu-it, i think youi can see it in youtube still in italian =)  or here http://ilfuocodilinux.wordpress.com/11:11
emilsedghcombinio: go to K3B, Copy the Cd, just check the 'Only Create Image' checkbox11:11
emilsedghcombinio: then you can Mount the ISO like a real disk11:12
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combinioemilsedgh: big THX :)11:12
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__osh__Is there some place to request "updates" to packages? In feisty the package "komparator" is at 0.5 and 0.7 is out with quite a few improvements.11:13
Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: mm ffmpeg works, medibuntu repo but i stil have problem no audio =(11:13
__osh__Or will new packages only come with new releases of kubuntu?11:14
XsteelWolfuse mplayer11:14
XsteelWolfmplayer rocks more than ffmpeg :P11:14
XsteelWolfmake sure you got all the codecs install11:14
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Sbucat_il_peccatXsteelWolf: nope it don t support well mov file11:15
XsteelWolfit does support mov file11:15
XsteelWolfyour codecs isn't there i believe11:15
Sbucat_il_peccatXsteelWolf: i am doing a nice converter and i need mov file ca be played into damned quicktime plauyer11:15
emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: nice job, you should translate it into English and post it to kde-apps :)11:15
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Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: it's for kde and gnome =)11:16
emilsedghSbucat_il_peccat: so, post it on gnome-files too :), but, AFAIK, gambas is more KDE Intergrated?11:16
Sbucat_il_peccatXsteelWolf: i am sorru but i have encode with this string mencoder  -oac  faac -faacopts br=192:mpeg=4:object=2 -channels 2 -srate 22050 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=300 -of lavf  -lavfopts i_certify_that_my_video_stream_does_not_use_b_frames -o output.mov input11:17
Sbucat_il_peccatbut mov file is not correct window media player it works but quicktime it said is not a quicktime supported11:18
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Sbucat_il_peccatemilsedgh: it is written in gambas 2 and i am in kde and works great =)11:18
emilsedghnice11:18
emilsedghim watching it11:19
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XsteelWolfnot sure about that11:20
XsteelWolfusually i converted it into .flv for my site11:20
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XsteelWolfthen play it with a universal flash player :D11:20
Caelback again maybe someone can help a lil more , i'm trying to get terminal toio do ./makefile install for yaboot11:21
Caelbuti get -bash: ./makefile: Permission denied11:21
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Caeltake it no one can help?11:23
SlimeyPetechmod +x it11:25
SlimeyPete"./makefile" is an odd way of doing things, however O.o11:25
Caelthen what do u dsuggest i go by installing yaboot?11:26
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SlimeyPeteCael: read the INSTALL file. The normal way is "./configure; make; make install"11:28
SlimeyPetethough yaboot might be different for all I know11:28
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Sbucat_il_peccatXsteelWolf: the problem is mencoder is not for all format11:33
Sbucat_il_peccatbecause free and close issue11:34
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Sbucat_il_peccatand so some format does t works propely11:34
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wers!mac11:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:38
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Sbucat_il_peccat#mencoder11:47
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ryarenhi12:01
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ryarenHow can I mount a winchester with read and write access by my hand?12:01
ryarenWhat is tha correct option?12:01
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wersI installed openoffice.org to my aunt's windows computer and it loads for just about 4 seconds while oo.o loads for about a minute in my kubuntu laptop. we even have the same exact hardware12:04
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slackernwers: for me it took 12 seconds to start oo writer the first time, 2nd time it took 3 seconds, this is on an oldish athlon xp @ 2ghz and 1gb ram running Kubuntu (Gutsy)12:07
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slackernwers: might not help you much though just wanted to give you something to compare too12:07
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wersokay.. thanks anyway12:07
jussi01about 3 seconds here... on a turion 64 with 2 gb ram...12:07
wersmay I know your hardware specs?12:07
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wersi have 1.5ghz celeron m and 512 mb ram12:08
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Jucatowers: maybe the quickstart is preloaded in Windows12:08
slackernAMD Athlon-XP @ 2Ghz, 1 GB DDR, X1950Pro card and a 250GB 7200rpm SATA harddrive.12:08
wershmmm.. yeah jucato12:09
wersi'll try to enable quickstart too12:09
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wersbut no.. i also tried turning quickstart on windows too but it's still fast12:09
Jucato!info oooqs2-kde12:09
ubotuoooqs2-kde: OpenOffice.org2 QuickStarter applet for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 336 kB12:09
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wersokay.. i'm installing oooqs20-kde now jucatskeee12:11
Jucatohehe12:11
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Jucatobut yes, it starts up quite slow12:12
wershow long does it start in your box?12:12
Jucatohm.. let's try now12:12
Jucato12s12:12
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Jucatohm.. that's shorter than what I'm used to :)12:13
werswoowwwww12:13
Jucatobut that's just the first run.12:13
wershow about your specs?12:13
Jucato2nd run took less than 4 seconds12:13
ryarenHow can I mount a winchester with read and write access by my hand?12:13
Jucato1.5ghz 1GB ram12:13
jussi01!intelhad12:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intelhad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:14
jussi01!intelhda12:14
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto12:14
wersohhh.. there is something wrong with my oo.o then12:14
wersi'll try installing 2.312:14
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ceeis it possible somehow to show what processes that are using the sound device?12:18
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Lord_Drachenbluthas anyone got kickerqt_i386 to work on there system?12:24
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__osh__cee: fuser /dev/dsp?12:27
__osh__cee: perhaps. I haven't tried it.12:27
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shegmancan anyone tell me how to let my udev get noticed of my webcam? normaly it should made a /dev/video0 but it doesn't12:30
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jeroen__hello12:33
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SMP_ca!sound12:34
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:34
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wersJucato, how do I run oooqs2-kde? :D12:35
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Jucatoum. dunno.. like I said... rarely use.. :/12:35
Jucatotry typing the name in Konsole?12:35
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wersdidnt work :(12:36
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Jucatosorry no idea12:39
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holycowhey guys12:48
holycowdoes kdm allow animations to be played as part of the login process?12:48
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XsteelWolfi believe yes12:48
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holycowinteresting thx12:51
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korielanyone familiar with kopete?12:52
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korielI want to disable the case when someone message me and the dialog box is coming on front of everything12:53
korielis really annoying12:53
Thinkkhow do I use the fingerprint reader in kubuntu??12:54
emilsedghkoriel: ask your question :)12:54
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emilsedghkoriel: I think that should be configured in Kopete->Configure Notifications (Im not sure)12:55
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Jucatokoriel: which dialog box?12:56
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korielwhen I'm having a conversation and i alt+tab to another application if that user msg me than this conversation window is coming to front all the times12:58
Jucatokoriel: Settings -> Configure -> Behavior -> Events tab -> [ ]  Raise window on incoming message ?12:59
Jucatouncheck that and see if it works01:00
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korielno it is still coming to front ... I unchecked all options01:02
korieleverywhere :)01:02
emilsedghwow, Kget on kde4 looks nice, I think at last we have a nice Download Manager01:02
Thinkkdoesn't anyone have a laptop with a fingerprint reader, and managed to make it work in linux??01:02
Jucatoemilsedgh: you're not confusing the plasmoid with the app are you?01:03
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werswill there be a gutsy tribe 6?01:15
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dwidmannwers: probably, I'm pretty sure there was a feisty herd 601:41
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dwidmannwait, it looks like the tribe6 "release" was cancelled01:43
jussi01dwidmann: topic?01:43
jussi01;)01:43
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jussi01oh, hang on... in +1...01:44
jussi01gah01:44
dwidmanno.O01:44
enginwhat is the devel chanel of kubuntu / ubuntu?01:44
jussi01they had a thing about it in the topic for ages01:44
dwidmannengin: probably #kubuntu-devel01:44
jussi01engin: #ubuntu+101:44
ardchoilleengin: #ubuntu+101:44
dwidmannjussi01: I'm usually too lazy to look at the topic01:45
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jussi01dwidmann: you should look there. there is usually a lot of information thats important...01:46
dwidmannI gather any information that I deem important from rss feeds01:47
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dwidmannApparently I missed and/or purposely skipped that though.01:48
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Franco-a-chola a todos01:50
Franco-a-chablan espaol aqui?01:50
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saizaiI've got a (hopefully?) basic question that I've been bashing my head on. I'm trying to set pureftpd (Feisty package) to run with puredb. I have the PureDB file in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf and no other auth confs. And it just ignores it and uses unix auth anyway. The same happens if I start manually with -l puredb:/etc/pure-ftpd/pureftpd.pdb. Any ideas how to fix this?01:52
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__osh__!es01:56
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:56
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dieff!de01:57
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:57
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marseillaihi02:05
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marseillaii have a question about adept on gutsy! i'm installing a new computer and i remember i've seen one time that adept can do an apt-get autoclean but i don't find where to manage this feature. Does anyone remember that?02:06
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wershow do I disable the middle click internet search for konqueror?02:23
wersit just annoys me because I often accidentally middle click using my touch pad02:23
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mrp_mornin02:25
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Jucatowers: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> Middle click opens URL in selection02:25
wersthanks dude02:26
wersmy middle click now works as the scrolll in some windows apps02:27
Jucatomiddle click = paste in Linux ftw! :)02:27
Jucatobtw, you can still middle-click to open URL in selection on an empty space in the tab bar even if you turn that off02:27
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alainhello02:28
wersokay.. got it02:28
wersthanks jucatss02:28
Jucatohehe you're welcome wers(daluv)02:29
ardchoilleJucato: Thanks, I never knew you could do that.02:29
Jucato:)02:29
Jucatoyou can also double click on the tab area to open a new tab :)02:29
ardchoilleWow, I have to write these down02:29
werswow... KDEnclopedia=Jucatskee02:30
Jucatoheheh :)02:30
ardchoilleI just switched from firefox to konqueror02:30
Jucatolol!02:30
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wershahahaha02:30
wersI love bangus!02:30
wershahaha02:30
Jucatothat's what I ate yesterday....02:31
Jucatoanyway.. hehehe02:31
marseillaino one has an idea for my question about adept and apt-get clean ?02:31
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Jucatomarseillai: not sure about "autoclean", but apt runs clean automatically on a certain schedule02:32
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Jucatoafaik02:33
ardchoilleI hear that konqueror is no longer going to be the default fm in kde 4.002:33
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marseillaiJucato: in fact afaik you're wrong on that point02:33
Jucatoardchoille: not the default file manager. but still the default web browser02:33
ardchoilleJucato: Ah, ok02:33
Jucatomarseillai: perhaps... that's just what I was told before. never saw it happen :)02:33
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Jucatomarseillai: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic02:34
JucatoAPT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval (although mine's disabled I guess...)02:35
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marseillaiJucato: APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0"; so now it's never but i know there is a way to ask adept to change this value and i don't find it anymore02:36
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Jucatomarseillai: I have never seen that option in Adept Manager or Manage Repositories (software-properties-kde). I've only seen the option when to check for updates02:37
Jucatomarseillai: might want to ask manchicken_ or Riddell about it though02:37
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marseillaiyes i'll but i didn't want to disturb on #devel with a user question02:37
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JakoavainHi! :)02:38
JucatoI think it just graduated from being a user question :)02:38
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ardchoillemarseillai: It's not there, that's surprising.. I thought it would have an option for that. Oh well, good thing you can always throw "apt-get clean" in a root cronjob :)02:39
JakoavainNow it installed the w32codecs.. or so I think, but still watching videos from net, the sound wont work. Then came this another problem.. Sometimes firefox wont even download the page, sometimes like few pics or txt .. Right now it's doing it again.. I press google, or anything else.. "done" and the page is empty.02:40
marseillaiardchoille: i run apt-get clean in cron.weekly since time now just i want to find where this option is hiding02:40
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ardchoilleok02:41
JucatoI hate to be told wrong again, but I really can't remember that feature in adept... :(02:41
Jucatoalong with a manual menu option to clean the cache...02:41
ardchoilleI guess synaptic has spoiled me02:43
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marseillaimanchicken_:  i got a question for you. i've seen (if i well remember it was in feisty) an option in adept_* to change a value in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic and clean apt archive. And now i'm making a fresh install and i would like to find this feature and i can't find it. Could you please tell me i'm not crazy and it exist or it has exist....02:44
marseillaiarfffffffffffffff02:45
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marseillaiyou may have reason ardchoille02:45
marseillaimay be i've seen that in synaptic02:45
Jucato:)02:45
JakoavainHmm, so no one knows. Maybe I'll try later, :)02:45
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ardchoillemarseillai: There is an option for that in synaptic, yes, I liked that option.02:46
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marseillainoooooooooooo02:46
marseillainow i'm sure02:46
Jucato:)02:46
marseillaii got in my feisty partitin02:46
marseillaithis file : /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/15adept-periodic-update02:46
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tzangermorning02:47
Jucatoyep. they seem to change those files every release :)02:47
Jucatonow it's 10periodic...02:47
marseillaiJucato: yes but as you can see it's a adept file02:47
marseillai:)02:47
tzangeranyone running into mythfrontend crashing X on exit?02:47
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Jucatomarseillai: but what are the contents of the file? APT::Periodic?02:47
tzangerit's almost consistent :-)02:47
marseillaiAPT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0";02:48
marseillaiJucato:02:48
Jucatoyep. it's an APT file :)02:48
Jucatomisnamed APT file :)02:48
marseillaiyes but write by adept02:48
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JucatoI don't think so...02:48
Jucatobut manchicken_ would know better02:48
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marseillaiyes i'll come back later and ask him i have to lease02:49
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ardchoilleJucato:  http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/3961102:49
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infinity__hi03:06
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tzangerhmm, is there a way to tell KDE to save a window's geometry?  I'm getting a little tired of constantly resizing my kdevelop window every time it starts up03:06
llutztzanger: rightclick on window-deco, window-settings03:07
tzangerllutz: just found that, yes.  thanks03:07
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RurouniJonesBugger me that is awesome03:09
RurouniJonesTalk about teh power (tm)03:09
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qmakehello, hao can i use KPF in a terminal?03:13
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hydrogen,,,03:16
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hydrogendoo it!03:17
Jucatoone more time...03:17
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geniiJucato: Heh! hi03:18
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swanflI'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with hte generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused03:19
swanflthat is to say, this happens during the debian-installer03:19
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reagleBRKLNhi, i'm trying to grab email msg content from the marc.info archive. when I use the msgid, there is a redirect03:34
reagleBRKLNhttp://marc.info/?i=742dfd06050503151938d6ec8f%20()%20mail%20!%20gmail%20!%20com --302--> http://marc.info/?l=wikipedia-l&m=11151588113002603:34
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reagleBRKLNshouldn't urlopen follow this? "The geturl() method returns the real URL of the page. In some cases, the HTTP server redirects a client to another URL. The urlopen() function handles this transparently, but in some cases the caller needs to know which URL the client was redirected to. " In my case it isn't03:35
reagleBRKLNoops, sorry, wrong channel03:35
Jucato...03:35
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saizaiis there some way I can get pure-ftpd to allow read-only access to a directory an ntfs-3g rw mounted drive in Kubuntu Feisty? mount --bind will only mount it as whatever the original is (i.e. root.root 777), and I can't get it to allow symlinks... :/03:37
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JakoavainBy the way, what is whiptail? Because in my processthing it's takin 46% of the process!03:39
jussi01!info whiptail03:40
ubotuwhiptail: Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 92 kB03:40
c1|freakya girl dancing for gotta find it ^^03:40
c1|freakyher03:40
c1|freaky+you03:40
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c1|freaky^^03:40
jussi01Jakoavain: 46% sounds very high for whiptail...03:41
Jakoavain...03:42
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swanflI'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with the generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused03:43
swanflthat is to say, this happens during the debian-installer03:43
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Jakoavainjussi01: Well, anyideas?03:43
BluesKajhowdy all03:44
jussi01Jakoavain: kill it03:44
JakoavainHiw Blue : )03:44
Jakoavainjussi01: I cant03:44
BluesKajneed coffee .brb03:44
jussi01Jakoavain: out of curiosity, in which city are you?03:44
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jussi01Jakoavain: why not?03:44
JakoavainBetween pori and tampere.. Well.. it just wont let me ;D03:44
jussi01Jakoavain: sudo kill whiptail03:44
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BluesKajsuomalainens all over this room :)03:49
Jakoavainsuomalaiset ;D03:50
jussi01lol03:50
JakoavainBlueskaj, swe? :)03:50
jussi01Im not Finnish...03:50
jussi01I just live here...03:50
jussi01;)03:50
JakoavainHehe :)03:50
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BluesKajsvensk/finn...born in kaavi , moved as a child to canada03:50
JakoavainIt reminds me of south park ;D03:51
BluesKajwell jussi is a finnish name if i ever heard one03:51
JakoavainWell.. we have kimi raikkonen, you've got terrance and philip03:51
BluesKajwho?03:52
Jakoavain.. Oh forget it :D03:52
BluesKaj:)03:52
BluesKajthis is canada not the uk03:52
jussi01lol03:53
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JakoavainSouth Park, Terrance and Philip? Doesn't say anything :D03:53
BluesKajtoo old to watch that stuff...I don't get it :)03:54
Jakoavain:D Damn...03:54
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Jakoavaini'll go to play drums :D Or try to play.. cya! :)03:54
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BluesKajwe have the show on tv ...I just don't unnerstand the humour03:55
JakoavainOh! Blueskaj! I got some question for you03:55
swanflhello, did anyone see my question?03:55
JakoavainNow it installed the w32codecs.. or so I think, but still watching videos from net, the sound wont work. Then came this another problem.. Sometimes firefox wont even download the page, sometimes like few pics or txt .. Right now it's doing it again.. I press google, or anything else.. "done" and the page is empty.03:55
BluesKajyou a drummer to Jakoavain ?03:55
BluesKajtoo03:55
JakoavainWell.. I'm not in a band, or anything like that.. but yes :)03:55
BluesKajahh sounds like a java prob03:56
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BluesKajcool Jakoavain, keep it up ...drummers are always needed sooner or later03:57
swanflhello, did anyone see my question?03:57
jussi01swanfl: say it again03:57
swanflI'm trying to put kubuntu on a very old box. I need to disable automatic ide driver detection (and stick with the generic IDE driver) because this automatic detection causes a kernel panic, presumably because so many modules get loaded during this time that don't belong and my hardware gets confused03:57
swanflhello, did anyone see my question?03:57
BluesKajJakoavain, make sure you have java-common and at a minimum j2re1.403:58
swanflsorry about that last one03:58
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swanflthis in regards to debian-installer03:58
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BluesKajJakoavain, you can check in adept03:58
JakoavainBluesKaj: Yeah, :) There's one band.. Maybe I can join them.. but to the javathing, that was like swedish to me03:58
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BluesKajswanfl, we saw your Q , but wait til someone who can help shows up..have no idea03:59
pagan0neis there any way to get kubuntu to update from a ntp server on a regular basis (1-2x a day?) my hardware clock seems to run down over the course of a week so that by the end of the week im 15+ mins slow....03:59
llutzpagan0ne: create a cron-job04:00
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swanflok, at least say you don't know so I don't feel like i'm being ignored04:00
BluesKajJakoavain, open adept and type , java and check for the 2 mentioned04:00
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pagan0nellutz: ok give me some help with that, where is a good resource to learn, or what should i do?04:00
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llutzpagan0ne: man crontab04:01
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slackernpagan0ne: rightclick on the clock on your bottom right and check in "Adjust date and time" and in the top of the window there you can select automatic04:01
slackernpagan0ne: then it'll let you choose servers to update time from.04:01
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pagan0neslackern: automatic is selected, but it only seems to update when i actually go in and change ntp server, it can go for weeks, and it never seems to update04:02
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slackernpagan0ne: ahh i haven't tried it myself either, just thought it worked04:03
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ivanbilihi guys, i have a problem with my proc partition and i had to boot from my live CD... how do I mount my dev/sda3 device so that I can access its files?04:03
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ivanbili hi guys, i have a problem with my proc partition and i had to boot from my live CD... how do I mount my dev/sda3 device so that I can access its files?04:06
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pagan0neivanbili: in terminal mount /dev/sda3 /your/mount/point/here04:10
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swanflso when are they gonna fix open office?04:15
wersI just installed oo.o 2.3.. whenever I start it from kmenu, the loading taskbar item comes out but oo.o does not come out04:15
tzangerwhat's wrong with open office?04:15
swanflspecifically the inability of the form wizard to complete in the oo database04:16
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rickeyi am haveing trouble installing ymessenger ,has anyone here installed it?04:20
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lduongfgfdg04:21
JakoavainThis is so embarrasing but the java wasn't even installed, after all we were drunk when we installed kubuntu. Anyway :D ... Now I'm in the terminal, and it says after "ln -s jre*/bin bin" command that bin isn't a directory04:21
lduongoh really04:21
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rickey<rickey> i am haveing trouble installing ymessenger ,has anyone here installed it?04:24
pagan0nerickey: i havent installed ymessenger, but why do you want ymessenger over sompthing like kopete?04:25
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rickeybecause kopete no longer dose yahoo chatrooms04:25
rickeynor dose gain04:26
pagan0nerickey: ok, fiar enough, i never use them, so i never noticed04:26
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rickeyand i have much more trouble installing pidgin04:26
pagan0nerickey: whats the trouble your running into trying to install ymessenger?04:27
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rickeywen i go to  konsole to enter the stuff ,it say no file04:28
rickeybut i have it in rickey/home04:28
pagan0neok, you have downloaded the ymessenger package, what type of package?04:28
pagan0neapt, tar, rpm. etc?04:29
rickeyfile:///home/rickey/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i38604:29
rickeytar04:29
wersService '/usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop' is malformatted.04:29
wesleyhello can somebody help me? i am trying to install kbfx on 64 bit. But get see that it dont find kde3 headers   http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/619/schermafdruk36dx6.jpg04:29
werswhat do I do to correct the link to oo.o?04:29
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pagan0nerickey: ok so if you       cd /home/rickey       and then          tar -zxf ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386   it returns file not found?04:30
rickeyyes04:31
pagan0nerickey: and your using approptate case (as its case sensitive)?04:31
rickeyyes small case04:32
pagan0nerickey: then my suggestion would be to delete it, and redownload the file, but ive never had a issue like that04:32
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wesleywhere can i find kde3 headers?04:33
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BluesKajwesley, are you running ubuntu/gnome ?04:33
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wesleyno kubuntu04:34
BluesKajlook in adept04:34
wesleydid i already04:34
wesleyhttp://img410.imageshack.us/img410/619/schermafdruk36dx6.jpg04:34
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Jucato_wesley: kdelibs4-dev04:35
ivanbilican someone look at their fstab file and tell me their entry for their proc and main partition? thanks04:35
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LjLproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       004:35
LjLUUID=c50ae320-b4fd-434e-b81d-3088ae67e6fc /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:36
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pagan0nerickey: http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb   download that04:36
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FivetwentysixWhy is Konqueror so much faster than Firefox?04:36
ivanbiliLjL: do you know why sometimes it says: UUID=xxxxxxx and sometimes just dev/sda3 for example?04:36
z1pp3rFivetwentysix, uhm, cus' it can be?04:36
LjL!uuid | ivanbili04:37
ubotuivanbili: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:37
ivanbilithanks04:37
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wesleyadept did'nt find  kdelibs4-dev04:39
Jucato_!info kdelibs4-dev04:39
ubotukdelibs4-dev: development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu14.1 (feisty), package size 1315 kB, installed size 7472 kB04:39
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BluesKajwesley, maybe you need to add or uncomment some deb sources in in you sources.list file04:41
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Jucato_oh yeah, deb-src :)04:42
Jucato_stupid me :P04:42
deviance!info libqt3mt04:42
ubotuPackage libqt3mt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:42
wesleyfound it i did not had set the updates good ( clean install tosday )04:43
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ksivajiwhether apache is a IBM product like Eclipse .04:45
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deviance!info libqt3-mt04:47
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ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5.1 (feisty), package size 3222 kB, installed size 8916 kB04:47
ubunturos!qt404:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libqt-4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:48
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rickeynow i have realy messed up04:50
bahrdang, kubuntu looks much nicer  than ubuntu :o04:50
ibilicshould proc be in a separate partition?04:51
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FivetwentysixWhile I'm playing Warcraft III via Wine, i can't click while im holding alt, how do i fix that?04:51
bahrcan somebody tell me, if and how I manage to setup a connection to a vpn which is pptp?04:51
ibilicbefore, I think I saw it in a 1024Kb partition04:51
ibilicnow it's in the /proc folder on the main partition04:51
wesleyi get now this CMake Error: Could NOT find msgfmt program : how do i find msgftmt?04:51
rickeyi went into /home to see if i could send ymessenger to adept manger and now wen i try to open system menu  i get a loge in request04:52
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rickeylike if i am trying to open adept manger04:53
`AnthraXhello, i need some help about my internet.As you see i am on internet right now but i can't access web's or download updates.What can i do to fix that?04:53
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rickeysommehow the the follleder in system menu got pointed at adept manger04:54
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wesleyCMake Error: Could NOT find msgfmt program . Where do i find it?04:54
rickey  hoe do i correct this04:54
ivanbilifor my own reference:04:55
ivanbili<LjL> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       004:55
ivanbili<LjL> UUID=c50ae320-b4fd-434e-b81d-3088ae67e6fc /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       104:55
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FivetwentysixWhile I'm playing Warcraft III via Wine, i can't click while im holding alt, how do i fix that?04:56
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devianceIn kopete would Ggoogle Talk be Jabber?04:58
ubunturosdeviance: most likely04:58
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LjLwesley:05:01
LjLljl@ljlbox:~$ apt-file search msgfmt05:01
LjLgettext: usr/bin/msgfmt05:01
LjL!find msgfmt05:02
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ubotuFile msgfmt found in gettext, libgettext-ruby-util, xviewg-dev05:02
ubunturos!tomcat505:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomcat5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:02
ubunturos!tomcat05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:02
ubunturos!apache05:02
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:02
Jucato!botabuse | ubunturos05:02
ubotuubunturos: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:02
ubunturosJucato: is it one request at at time?05:02
wesleywhats that msgfmt program i cant find it in adept05:02
ubunturosoops!05:03
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`AnthraXhello jucato05:03
Jucatoubunturos: if you're not sure of what you're looking for, better PM ubotu05:03
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ubunturosJucato: umm, I didn't know that.05:03
Jucatonow you do :)05:03
Jucatohi `AnthraX05:03
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deviancepete :D05:04
`AnthraXjucato, i'll need some help regarding my internet connection05:04
devianceIs there any point in using kopete for IRC instead of konversation? Like a reduce processor or soemthing05:04
ibilicdoes the order of the statements in a fstab file matter?05:05
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Jucatoibilic: nope afaik05:05
`AnthraXi can connect to internet throw ether but i can't access any webs05:05
Jucatodeviance: not really... Kopete's IRC features basically is not very good, to put it kindly05:05
devianceOkay :D05:05
`AnthraXand* i can't download updates. i got 354 updates to download05:06
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Jucatohm...05:06
wersService '/usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop' is malformatted.-Katapult05:06
werswhat is the problem?05:07
wersI just installed oo.o 2.305:07
`AnthraXneither from sudo or from the Update manager05:07
`AnthraXah, i just saw that jucato05:07
`AnthraX:/05:07
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Jucatowers: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, click Ok, try again05:07
`AnthraXjucato again :P i think is something in my System - Administration - Software Sources05:09
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Jucatohm.. again.. #ubuntu? :)05:09
Jucato#ubuntu05:09
ibilicwhat's the command to find out the UUID of your hard disks again?05:10
Jucato!uuid | ibilic05:10
ubotuibilic: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)05:10
ibilicthanks05:10
Dr_Willisi always do a ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid :)05:11
`AnthraXjucato on the Third Party Software i have this: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-35705:11
Dr_Willisi think thats the right place05:11
Jucato`AnthraX: I don't think that should affect things05:11
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ibilicok, can I have someone's swap partition line from their fstab file? thanks05:13
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ibilic( I installed a new hard disk and it messed up everything )05:13
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Dr_Willishttp://www.xanda.org/index.php?page=performance-tuning-for-linux-swap-partition05:14
Dr_Willishas examples.05:14
JucatoUUID=[insert your own here]  none            swap    sw              0       005:14
Dr_Willisif you put the new hd in front of the others - the /dev/whatever entrys may of moved. thats why uuid is  a good idea.05:14
Jucatobtw, you can also use the /dev/hdxx style if you want to05:14
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Dr_WillisI did see an artical/forum stating that if you resized a partition the uuid would change..  but have never seen that behavior. Not sure if the guy was confused or not.05:15
Jucatoyep that's true05:15
Jucatoany modification you make to the partition, resize, repartition, delete+recreate05:16
Dr_WillisJucato i moved some partitions however and dident see that happen.05:16
Jucatohm... happened to me :)05:16
Dr_Willisi may have the fstab using the old style. Its on my laptop. I keep meaning to check.05:16
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Dr_WillisI tend to set mine to mount based on Label. :)05:16
geniiDr_Willis: I've found that if you resize, the next one's uuid shifts05:16
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Dr_Willisahh the next ones. Hmm..05:16
Dr_Willismust be some specific resizing operations that do it.05:16
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Dr_Willisof course I do belive that with the tune2fs tool. you can set the uuid. :)05:17
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Dr_Willisso set them to 0000-000-000-001 ? :) and up?05:17
geniiWould simlify things05:17
genii*simplify05:18
Dr_WillisI mount mine based on the disk Label.05:18
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maxagazhi05:18
Dr_Willismakes the fstab much more readable.05:18
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Jucatoum.. LABEL=05:18
maxagazhow to set a remote ssh folder ?05:18
Jucato!ssh05:18
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:18
Dr_WillisYep. I read the Manual/docs and learned to do it by label.05:18
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Dr_Willisremote ssh folder..Hmm..  clarify what you mean.05:18
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adeninhello, could anybody please write here why "system settings"->"network settings" utility always throws message "the default gateway ip address is invalid" when I try to set my wifi pci card manually? ...If I do it by commandline "sudo ip route add default via 172.22.19.254", it works good :(05:20
ibilicso is it a good idea to add "pri=0" in your options for the swap partition?05:20
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wershmmm.. it seems that my oo.o is installed in /opt/openoffice.org2.3/.. how do I point my launchers to that location?05:20
maxagazDr_Willis: I need to edit a text file which is in a distant computer which I can access via SSH05:20
Jucatowers: did you do what I said earlier? no luck?05:21
maxagazusing Quanta.05:21
Dr_Willisyou might want to check out that sshfs tool then05:21
Dr_Willisit makes the ssh connection transparent to the programs.05:21
Jucatomaxagaz: you can access the computer using ssh?05:21
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JucatoDr_Willis: um.. KDE can do that already. built-in05:21
wersJucato, I found no place there where I can point to the folder05:21
Jucatowers: huh???05:22
Jucatowers: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, click Ok, try again05:22
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Jucatowers: can't you launch OO.o from the K Menu at all? or is Katapult the only one having problems05:22
wersboth Jucato05:23
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Jucatomaxagaz: if you can reach the computer through SSH, all you need to do in Quanta or in any KDE app is to enter the location+user name if necessary in the Open File dialog box05:23
wersI went to the configuration window but I do not know waht to do so I just clicked ok and it still does not work05:24
Jucatowers: how did you install OO.o 2.305:24
ibilicThe order of records in fstab is important because fsck(8), mount(8), and umount(8) sequentially iterate through fstab doing their thing.05:24
ibilicfrom the actual man pages05:25
ibilicsomebody said it didn't matter05:25
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JucatoI did. sorry05:25
Jucatomy swap is near the bottom05:25
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wersJucato: I downloaded the debs.. cd to the DEBS folder then "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"05:25
JucatoO.o05:25
Jucato!info openoffice.org05:25
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ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB05:25
Jucato2.3 is such a big change from 2.2 in feisty?05:26
Jucatowers: not sure how well that went since you bypassed the repositories...05:26
geniiJucato: I dunno but trying to upgrade OOo in gutsy was a nightmare05:26
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Jucatowers: what happens when you try to run in from Konsole?05:27
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Dr_Willisyea - but for a while there were updates evyer other day to it.. and i never used it. :)05:27
CheshireKotHi everybody!05:27
ibilicnow, at startup, how does the kernel know where the fstab file is located if the hard disk with it needs to be mounted first?05:28
wers!paste05:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:28
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wershttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37915/05:28
Jucatohm.. I don't think the boot process goes like that05:28
wersstudents like me really need oo.o05:29
Jucatowers: it doesn't launch at all?05:29
wersit doesnt05:29
Jucatoignore those BadDevice errors05:29
Jucatowers: is that the command line for openoffice? I thought it was oowriter05:29
wersyeah.. nothing happened after those errors05:29
Jucatoand don't include the05:29
Jucato%U05:29
wersi copied it from kmenu editor's command05:30
Jucatothat's why :P05:30
wersimma try ooffice05:30
Jucato is a placeholder05:30
wersi mean05:30
Jucato%U is a placeholder05:30
wersoowriter05:30
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poison--WHY DA HELL IS SO DIFICULT TO MAKE A LAPTOP WEBCAM TO WORK :(05:30
poison--upos.. sorry bout caps05:30
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wersThe program 'oowriter' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:...05:30
wersthis is odd05:30
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wershahahahahah05:30
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Jucatowers: because you overwrote the default oowriter it seems...05:31
wershmmm05:31
Jucato(was there a particular reason you tried to install 2.3?)05:31
wersso what am I supposed to do?05:31
maxagazJucato: what syntax to use to open the file via ssh in quanta ?05:31
Jucatomaxagaz: sftp://username@blahblahblah or fish://username@blahblabhblah05:32
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Jucatowhere blahblahblah would be your computer's IP/host05:32
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Jucatoyour remote computer's05:32
Jucatoone of KDE's biggest features is network transparency. you can treat remote files as if they were local05:33
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Jucatoin almost any app05:33
TomerzHow do i open mp3 files from ntfs windows partition?05:33
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ksivajiJucato tell  me you systems usernam and ip05:34
LjLno password?05:34
Jucatoyeah right05:34
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ksivajiTomerz mount the ntfs partition and then open05:35
Jucatowers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s05:35
Tomerzit's faild05:35
Tomerzsomeone here told me about somethingg to install05:35
Tomerzntfs 3g something like that05:35
wershmm.. what version Jucato?05:35
Jucato[23:35]  <Jucato> wers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s05:36
ksivaji!ntfs05:36
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:36
Tomerz!ntfs-3g05:36
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:36
Jucato[23:35]  <Jucato> wers: btw, on my laptop, 1.6Ghz, 495MB RAM, Feisty, OO.o 2.2, initial run takes 10 seconds. next runs are 2-3s05:36
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n8k99show off05:39
wershmmm05:39
wersokay..05:39
wersso what do I do?05:39
wersI just reinstall oo.o?05:39
werswatchuthink?05:39
JucatoI would recommend it05:39
Jucatoand stick to 2.2 in the meantime05:39
Jucatounless there's some dire reason you need 2.3 :)05:40
wersk05:40
wersyou're the man05:40
wersi do what you say05:40
Jucatonah. I'm just the kid05:40
Jucatolol!05:40
JucatoI'm not an OO.o authority05:40
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JucatoI avoid it if I can05:40
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BluesKaj!ntfs-config ...don't forget05:41
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BluesKaj!ntfs-config05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:42
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BluesKajdumb bot05:42
BluesKaj!info ntfs-config05:42
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB05:42
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JucatoGIGO :)05:43
BluesKaj?05:43
arunCan I use my Sony connect MP3 player with Ubuntu?05:43
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BluesKajtry it and see , arun05:44
BluesKajor listen rather05:44
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arunBluesKaj: I want to load songs onto it, how do I do that?05:50
BluesKajis it detected in /media ?05:51
adeninhello, Is anybody able to play video files from sony ericsson mobile phones - extension 3gp with audio? if yes, what software do you use?thanx05:51
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n8k99arun did amarok detect it?05:52
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arunBluesKaj: it's detected in /media05:53
BluesKajcan ,you open it and see the files there05:54
arunBluesKaj: i see a bunch of DAT files05:55
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aruni think the songs are all in some OMA format05:55
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BluesKajtry to copy them to a folder05:56
arunis there any way to convert mp3s to OMA before i transfer?05:56
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BluesKajsorry dunno anything about OMA05:57
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ibilicwhenever I start Kubuntu, the IRC client starts06:00
ibilicwhy?06:00
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ibilichow can I not make it start?06:00
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z1pp3rclose it down, before you log out06:00
ibilici.e. it's as if it is in the "startup" folder in Windows06:00
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ibilicaha ok06:00
ibiliclet me try06:00
stdinbecause you had it open when you logged out, made sure you choose "Quit" when you close it06:01
ibilicright... it just gets minimized06:01
stdinnot when you choose "Quit"06:01
stdinFile > Quit06:01
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Tomerz!superkaramba06:01
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org06:01
stdinor right click the icon in the system tray06:01
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Tomerzhow do i install superkaramba?06:02
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stdinTomerz: from adept06:02
Tomerzthis is the add/remove programs?06:02
Tomerzi didnt find it there06:02
rickeyant geeks in here06:02
rickey i need a geek06:02
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stdinTomerz: look in adept, not add/remove06:02
z1pp3rrickey, yeah... talking to human beings like that will definitely give you the help you need06:03
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rickeygeek is a good thing06:03
z1pp3rno06:03
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rickeyok try this linux wizard06:04
rickey'06:04
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stdinyou could just ask your question and see...06:04
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z1pp3rrickey, or you could just state your question06:04
rickeythats what geek means in my generation06:04
rickeyit,s kinda like egg head06:05
stdinif you have a question, ask it06:05
rickeywell i have messed up  big time , . i was trying to move a file {y messenger} to adept manger06:07
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rickey i pointed the file to  adept manger   now wen i am trying to open system menu , i get a loge in promp06:08
rickeyfor adept manager06:08
rickey how do i straten this mess out06:08
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XboxUserCan anyone help me get ident working in Konversation? Normally (on windows) i port forwarded 113 and it worked, doesn't do anything now06:09
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rickeyhow do i put it back rigth06:09
BluesKajI was  a lousy lazy student , a decent athlete, a drummer ,a party animal in my younger days , turned father and grandfather and raised 4 kids ...no one ever called me a geek . Knowing a little about pcs and linux doesn't make one a geek IMO :)06:10
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rickeyi wish i was a geek06:11
BluesKajgawd06:11
stdinXboxUser: you have an ident daemon installed?06:11
rickey<<< would be prould to be a geek06:11
XboxUserstdin: nope, didn't know I need one... how would I install one?06:12
BluesKajthen rickey start studying :)06:12
stdinXboxUser: search adept for "ident-server"06:12
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rickeybut now back to my problem with  what i have done06:12
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Dr_Willisidentd deamons are normally not needed these days06:14
BluesKajstdin, why does he need an ident-server ...whynot just open port 666706:14
Dr_Willisgiven  how useless they are.06:14
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stdinBluesKaj: ident/auth doesn't run on 666706:15
slackern113 is ident06:15
XboxUserstdin: I found ident2,an advanced, configurable ident daemon06:15
BluesKajsounds dangerous if it's lower than port 106406:15
stdinsome IRC networks for example require the user to have an ident06:15
XboxUsershould i install ident2?06:15
stdinXboxUser: use what you like :) I use bidentd on my server (where the port is forwarded to) and pidentd on all the clients, and I can ident from any client06:16
tsbI'd like to remove memtest86+ now. By doing so, aptitude wants to remove the metapackages ubuntu-base and ubuntu-standard. Is this something to worry at all about? I'm thinking I might lose updates in the future if one of those metapackages are updated.06:16
rickeythank for the help06:16
slackernI'm using oidentd here myself06:16
Jucatotsb: why not just edit the GRUB menu?06:16
tsbJucato: because it is added at devery upgrade and after a few years now that is getting annoying. :)06:17
tsbI don't need it.06:17
tsb(that is - after every update-grub command)06:17
stdintsb: there's an option to stop that06:17
Jucatothe metapackages do help in making sure you get the proper updates06:17
tsbI guess I could just remove the file manually from /boot but..06:17
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tsbJucato: right, thought so; I'll keep it then.06:18
tsbstdin: yeah? I haven't seen it06:18
Jucatoof course you're free to remove them. their just metapackages06:18
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stdintsb: set "# memtest86=true" to "# memtest86=false" in your menu.lst06:18
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tsbJucato: I know, but as I said, I'd prefer to keep them since they might get updated later06:18
stdintsb: should be a few lines before "## ## End Default Options ##"06:18
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tsbstdin: well I'll be darn. Thanks! :)06:19
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rickeyi gress ill hafe to reinstall the whole  system to fix moveing a file to the wrong place06:20
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BluesKajwhat did you move , rickey06:21
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tsbstdin: hrm, actually update-grub resets the memtest line06:21
tsbso it's not honored.06:21
stdintsb: it shouldn't, it's an option.06:21
tsbstdin: I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that it does. :)06:21
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stdintsb: if it resets it please report that as a bug against grub06:21
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rickeyi moved a file form /home to adept manager06:21
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tsbstdin: okay, thank you.06:22
Jucatothe only ones that should be modified by update-grub is the automagic kernel list06:22
rickeynow wen i try to open home i get a root loge in  promp06:22
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ubunturosdoes anybody have a quick guide (with screenshots) to pppoeconf06:22
stdintsb: in the short term, removing those meta-packages won't harm you, so if you want to that's ok06:22
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ubunturos?06:22
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tsbstdin: it's not that important, I rarely reboot and when I do it hardly matters, I'm just desperately postponing other important things. :)06:23
rickeyblue do you have any ideal what i have done06:23
BluesKajno and i don't understand why , rickey06:24
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Ace2016moving a file should never kill linux, just boot knoppix or something and your off, unless you forget the password to your encrypted partition like i have, 20+ letters and i remember most of them :( but not all of them06:24
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=== Jucato can't understand how one can move a file from /home to "adept manager"
rickeywen i tryed to move ymessenger to adept manger it asked me if i want to use this program to open this file from now on06:25
ubunturosmy question is the same as that of - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549317 - thread06:25
Ace2016lol you messed up your file associations?06:25
rickeyjucato i didnt know i couldnt do that06:26
rickeyyes i think so06:26
Jucatothen what happens now?06:26
rickeyso ace what should i do06:27
rickey do you think?06:27
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ivanbilixorg.conf files... what do the different ones mean? xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2 xorg.conf.backup?06:29
Jucatothose would be backup copies06:29
Jucatoautomatically generated by some script or program perhaps06:30
ivanbiliso which one is the most recent backup?06:30
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Dr_Willischeck the dates on them with ls -l06:30
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ivanbiliwill do, thanks06:31
stdinivanbili: the one with the highest number usually06:31
Glebiuskvls -l06:31
junkeR_hey, if I want to dual boot xp and kubuntu... do I install XP first..?06:31
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rickeyso pepoel will i hafe to reinstall kubuuuntu 7.04?06:31
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rickeykubuntu 7.0406:32
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Jucatorickey: what kind of file is ymessenger?06:33
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rickeytar06:33
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Jucatorickey: ok so after that, what is happening now?06:34
neolinuxienbonjour, quelqu un pourrait il m apporter quelques explication sur un soucis avec ma carte video ?06:34
Jucato!fr | neolinuxien06:34
ubotuneolinuxien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:34
neolinuxienok06:35
rickeywen i try to opensystem menu all i get is a root loge in promp for adept manager06:35
BluesKajjunkeR_, yes windows, then kubuntu06:35
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Jucatorickey: system menu, as in the one beside the K Menu?06:36
rickeyyes06:36
Jucatook hold on a sec. let me try something06:36
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Jucatorickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)06:38
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PunaKonehmm, im wondering, why doesnt kubuntu boot as a livecd on my laptop, i tried both 64bit and 32bit versions, my laptop is a fujitsu-siemens amilo pa 251006:39
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jussi01@now helsinki06:40
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Helsinki: September 19 2007, 19:40:45 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 3 hours 19 minutes06:40
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rickeyi am waiteing on you06:42
Jucatolol I was waiting for you to tell me you were ready :)06:42
rickeywhat am i to typed06:42
Jucatorickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)06:43
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Jucatogo to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations06:43
rickeyi am ready06:43
Jucatothere's a list near the middle. select "inode" then "directory"06:43
Jucatorickey: done?06:44
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rickeynot started06:45
Jucatowhat is not started yet?06:45
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rickeyALT+ F2 takes me to run comand06:46
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Jucatorickey: um.. of course it does.06:46
Jucato[00:43]  <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)06:46
Jucatotype in "konqueror" in run command06:47
rickeywhat am i to type here06:47
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Jucato[00:43]  <Jucato> rickey: Alt+F2, type in "konqueror" (without the quotes)06:47
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Jucatoor to make it simpler.. just go to K Menu -> Internet -> Konqueror06:47
rickeyok06:48
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Jucatonow you're in Konqueror right? go to Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations06:49
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vecinaHow come k3b only burns image files in .iso format, and not .bin or .mdf?06:50
rickeyok there06:50
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Jucatothere's a list near the middle, "Known types". select "inode" then "directory"06:51
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Jucatodo you see it?06:51
rickeyok06:52
stdinvecina: in can do bin/cue, mfd is a compresses proprietary type and it's not k3b that burns it, it's the tools it uses. so it's a limitation of those tools06:52
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stdinvecina: there are tools to convert the image types to iso tho06:52
stdin!iso | vecina06:52
ubotuvecina: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:52
vecinastdin: I see. What about the .bin ?06:52
rickeyyes i see it06:52
Jucatorickey: ok, while inode/directory is selected, at the right, there's a list under Application Preference Order06:52
stdinvecina: it does burn bin/cue yes06:53
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rickey yes i see it06:53
vecinastdin: Oh, bin burns normally? cool06:53
Jucatorickey: is Adept Manager in that list?06:53
rickeyyes06:53
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elite101hey06:53
st10kmhello06:53
st10kmI need some help pleas06:53
stdin!ask06:54
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:54
st10kmok06:54
sbucatlol06:54
sbucat=)06:54
st10km10ks06:54
st10km: )06:54
Jucatorickey: click on Adept Manager and then click on Remove06:54
sbucatwoot06:54
rickeyok done06:54
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st10kmI can t install the flash pluging I am with ubuntu06:54
elite101#ubuntu maybe?06:54
Jucatorickey: click on apply. then everything should work as normal06:54
rickeyappily , ok and leave06:54
st10kmyes06:55
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rickeythank you so much06:55
Jucatorickey: everything's ok now?06:55
rickeyyes it is06:55
Jucatoyay!!06:56
stdinst10km: install it from add/remove or synaptic, and not from the download site06:56
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st10kmok I ll try06:56
rickey oooooooooooo man me too06:56
st10kmtank you06:56
stdin!helpersnack | Jucato06:56
ubotuJucato: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:56
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Jucatoyay!!! :)06:56
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jussi01hehe06:56
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poison--is it possible to change the way mouse clicks act to double-click to open files?06:57
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Jucatoof course :)06:57
poison--where?06:57
poison--lmao06:57
JucatoSystem Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse06:57
rickeynow jucato wen you catch you breath06:57
elite101yeah^06:57
poison--humm06:57
poison--didnt find where06:57
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SoulChildwhy do i have a eth2 device but no eth1 ???06:57
elite101i had the same problem but i like the single click06:57
rickey ill ask if you use yahoo messenger06:57
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poison--ups.. sorry, just found it06:58
poison--need glasses i guess06:58
elite101:P06:58
elite101man im on a online IRC client06:58
JucatoI liked the single click.. for a year06:58
poison--Soulchild, change it06:58
elite101wen-based*06:58
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elite101web*06:58
poison--haaarrr haaarrr06:58
poison--:D06:58
st10kmexcuse me where is the synaptic ?06:58
slackern:p06:58
poison--add it06:58
poison--kubuntu dont have it06:58
stdinst10km: are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?06:58
jussi01st10km: synaptic == adept06:58
poison--"add/remove appz"06:59
stdinst10km: in Kubuntu use Adept?06:59
SoulChildpoison--: how ?06:59
st10kmUbuntu06:59
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elite101lol06:59
stdin*no '?'06:59
poison--!ethernet06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethernet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:59
elite101!devices06:59
poison--argh06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devices - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:59
elite101mhm06:59
poison--!eth06:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:59
poison--omfg06:59
elite101ahh stop now06:59
SoulChildpoison--: harrr harrr06:59
poison--i know i read sometin bout dat06:59
elite101where screwing around with the bot06:59
poison--goin limp!06:59
poison--lmao06:59
BluesKajst10km, use synaptic06:59
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poison--just a sec soulchild07:00
st10kmI have 2 download it ?07:00
elite101lol i requested 15 CD's of Kubuntu :D to give out to my friends07:00
rickeyi want ot download yahoo messenger , can sommeone give me a good link to the rigth one i should be useing , i have kubuntu 7.0407:00
elite1017.04* thou07:00
poison--i requested 50, they sent me 5 :(07:00
elite101Kopete07:00
stdinst10km: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager07:00
elite101Kopete07:00
elite101!!! >.<07:00
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elite101rickey, use kopete?07:01
poison--rickey, use aMSN, Kopete or even gaim07:01
st10kmLol thank you07:01
stdinrickey: kopete works with yahoo, and it's better than the yahoo version for linux07:01
elite101aMSN personally i think it sucks07:01
poison--like it07:01
rickeybut yoou cant live chat in the livve chatrooms with kopeete07:01
elite101runs slow i like kopete better its more "up-to-date"07:01
poison--can even use my porn emoticons from MSN07:01
poison--:D07:01
Jucato!language | poison--07:01
ubotupoison--: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:01
stdinrickey: you can't with the linux version of yahoo messenger either07:01
elite101!offtopic-poison--07:02
elite101opps07:02
elite101lanuage nvm07:02
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rickeyoooooooooooo my07:02
rickey i need my yahoo07:02
elite101man i suck @ typing this IRC sucks07:02
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st10kmstdin - thank you very much07:02
llp78restarted the pc and now lost sound - havent a clue what to look for can anyone point me in the right direction ?07:02
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rickeyis there a program that will run yahoo live chhatrooms07:03
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elite101wow when did all these people come in here? i remember when kubuntu only had like 250ppl at the max07:03
lucahi everyone07:03
poison--still searchin here07:03
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lucahas anyone tried to install the latest nvidia driver and run compiz?07:04
poison--what did i said?07:04
poison--cant say porn?07:04
elite101NO07:04
poison--damn07:04
elite101its rude plus there is young people here07:04
stdindeal with it, move on07:04
rickeyso linux pepole cant use yahoo live chatroom anymore07:04
elite101>.<07:04
st10kmI heve to restart ?07:04
elite101rickey, read on kubuntu/ubuntu website07:04
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stdinst10km: no, just restart firefox07:05
FivetwentysixHow do i restart apache2?07:05
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stdinFivetwentysix: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart07:05
st10kmI installed all pachage where I found like the name flash player07:05
ceewhat kind of packages do i need to have installed to get MusicSharing(daap) to work in amarok?07:05
st10kmand it doesn t work07:05
rickeyelilte do you have the link07:05
poison--soulchild : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43913607:05
elite101no07:05
elite101its elite*07:05
stdinst10km: it's called "flashplugin-nonfree"07:05
elite10110107:05
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stdin!flash | st10km07:06
ubotust10km: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:06
SoulChildpoison--: thanks07:06
st10kmok than ks07:06
poison--np07:06
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elite101man i broke my patch cord :( for my guitar07:07
elite101i havent played in like 2weeks now07:07
Doctor_Nickwoo07:08
elite101i have no money to buy a new one :(07:08
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Doctor_Nickyay07:08
Dr_Willispatch the patch corf.07:08
Dr_Willispatch the patch cord.07:08
elite101lol07:08
danny500I'm having a problem with System update, Synaptic Install Manager, and the Add/Remove Manager.07:08
elite101i smashed it cuz it gave me feed back when i  fingertap :P07:08
elite101it was a 10$ cord07:08
TunaTomdanny500: What's the problem?07:08
danny500They open, but when I tell them to install they just refresh the list and thats it.07:08
elite101it was cheap too only had 1 ring07:08
danny500So I can't install or uninstall anything.07:09
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danny500Well actually Synaptic won't open anymore07:09
elite101wow kubuntu CD's deliver so fast to my house only takes 2weeks :D07:09
danny500but I'm thinking it might be from what I did yesturday07:09
Dr_Willistry apt-get update/upgrade from the terminal yet?07:09
danny500I did this "sudo chmod 00007 / "07:10
TunaTomdanny500: What did you do yesterday?07:10
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TunaTomDo07:10
TunaTomnt07:10
danny500opened up the permissions for everything on the system07:10
elite101what is that doo07:10
stdin!away > blizzzek07:10
elite101omg07:10
elite101chmmod 0007 does that07:10
elite101chmod*07:11
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TunaTomchmod -R ?07:11
Hydrarrghgenthat looks silly07:11
Dr_Willisactually i thought it would just change the modes on the first layer of files /dirs in /07:11
Dr_Willis0007 seems odd... also07:11
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Hydrarrghgenit changes just the permissions of /.07:11
Hydrarrghgenand its backwards07:11
elite101no its 0000707:11
danny500Well I was trying to install something through command line and it kept stopping and whinning about permissions so I just opened up permission for everything on the system07:11
Hydrarrghgenthat looks like a umask07:11
Hydrarrghgenrather than permissions07:11
Dr_WillisHydrarrghgen yep.07:11
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elite101so can i do that if something tells me to run in root?07:11
Dr_Willis'problem exists between keyboard and chair'07:11
elite101even when i do sudo it asks me can i do chmod 00007?07:12
Dr_Willis:)07:12
danny500no it gives you permission to change things within system folders.07:12
elite101ahh ic07:12
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elite101nvm then07:12
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Dr_Willisisent there a few too many 0's ?07:12
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Hydrarrghgenthtas a really stupid thing to d.07:12
Hydrarrghgeno07:12
danny500nope07:12
Hydrarrghgenyes07:12
Hydrarrghgenit is07:12
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danny5004 0 and one 707:12
elite101yep07:12
SoulChildHow do i update udev ????07:12
danny500or should it be 000707:12
Hydrarrghgenanyways I need to go07:12
TunaTomDr_Willis: That adds the sticky bit?07:12
danny500O_O WHAT DID I DO????07:13
elite101:P07:13
danny500brb07:13
elite101why not 007?07:13
Hydrarrghgen007 isn't even possible07:13
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TunaTom:)07:13
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Hydrarrghgenbecause it means everyone can read/write/execute execpt the group/owner07:13
Hydrarrghgenwhich makes no sense!07:13
Dr_Willischmod 0007 name   Allow only other users (the world) to read, write, and execute this file or directory07:13
danny500Ya. It's your os and your computer but your not aloud to do anything. How conveinient.07:13
Dr_WillisHydrarrghgen yep. thats.... oddddd07:14
elite101lol they should have that for windows user's07:14
danny500They do07:14
elite101sorry i mean "windoze user's"07:14
vecinabchunk says it cant find the cue image. There isn't one though, just a .bin07:14
TunaTomdanny500: It's your os and your computer. You're even allowed to break it.07:14
elite101:D07:14
elite101ill break it for him07:14
danny500lol07:14
danny500No I'll do it. My window is already open.07:15
danny500Just gotta get a good throw07:15
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TunaTomNormally restoring the permissions wouldn't be too hard? dkpg --reconfigure or so?07:15
elite101lol take your HDD punch the top of it make a dent and put it back in it will fix it :P07:15
elite101*click click click...07:15
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TunaTomCan't you do that from the "rescue" login?07:15
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danny500who me?07:16
Dr_Willisdifferent dirs in / have different permissions. So one would need to fidn out what perms are needed on each dir.07:16
elite101i hate when HDD go to sh*t on u :( it sucks07:16
danny500elite. I actually did that once and it did fix it.07:16
elite101:D07:16
Ace2016thats not what you do, you put glue in the air hole of the drive,  that'll break ti07:16
Ace2016it*07:16
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elite101lol07:16
elite101thats even better07:17
danny500lol we really love computers eh07:17
elite101or sauder the transistors together and put it back in07:17
elite101:P07:17
TunaTomdanny500: Can't you use dpkg --reconfigure from that "rescue" login?07:17
elite101lol i twisted the transistors on a MOBO (p3 mobo) and gave it to my friend :P07:17
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danny500nope07:17
elite101they blew up sending metal into his face07:17
elite101R.I.P jake07:18
elite101:P JK07:18
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kardekjjj07:20
elite101wow quiet?07:20
sbucatlol07:21
elite101it just dies outta no where07:21
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elite101yes im getting a p4-900Mhz duron Sony Vaio07:21
elite101:D lol07:21
danny500I'm getting a AMD Athlon X2 5000+ 3GHz Dual core soon :D07:21
elite101instead of my p3-AMD-k6 lol im getting the p4 free then im buying a Core 2 dou intel:e6750 2.66Ghz07:21
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elite101o/C to 3.2Ghz07:22
elite101:P07:22
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danny500MAD Athlon X2 5000+ 3GHz Dual Core 2GB DDR2 RAM 320Sata II HDD for $399 :D:D:D07:22
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elite101Gigabyte MOBO/Nvidia-8800/4gb DDR2800(1gb each) and some wacked out Case07:22
danny500AMD*07:22
elite101400$^07:23
elite101with out GRFX card07:23
elite101:P07:23
elite101grfx card=700$+07:23
Tm_T!offtopic07:23
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:23
elite101or i can just buy a gixxer :D for school07:23
elite101sorry*07:23
elite101ahhh i got lag!!!!07:24
danny500My graphics card right now, PNY 768 GDDR3 at 139GB/s for $859 ;)07:24
elite101lol only 139gbps?07:24
elite101thats lowend i gotta a GPU of 2.4Ghz07:24
danny500thats the fastest consumer card on the planet lol07:24
elite101:D07:24
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danny500thats its transfer rate -_-07:25
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TunaTomdanny500: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/47607:25
danny500ok thanks07:25
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elite101Kubuntu is letting me run my ;Nvidia 9900 ExTRemE GPU:3.0Ghz RAM: 4GB-DDR3 1666Mhz(500Gbps)07:25
elite101:P07:25
danny500O_O HTF did you get it that fast?07:26
elite101wait about a month that card will comeout07:26
elite101:D07:26
Dr_Willisactually nvidia seems to be milking out the 8800 line for a LONG time...07:26
Tm_TI feel repeating07:26
Tm_T!offtopic07:26
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:26
Dr_Willislittle bitty improvements here and there.07:26
elite101yeah07:26
Dr_WillisThey know they got a lead. and its profit here.. :) so why push somthing that competes against theirself.07:27
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elite101hey im at the library im going to ask what therer going to do with there 3.0Ghz p4's they hav sitting around07:27
Dr_WillisI got a low end 8800 right now. Not put ubuntu on this box yet.07:27
elite101:D07:27
elite101i might score one07:27
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Tm_Tplease, do move your offtopic chat to #kubuntu-offtopic07:27
danny500is it a Geforce?07:28
elite101is a 3.0Ghz p4 fast?07:28
elite101for kubuntu07:28
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llutzfast enough07:28
elite101well i might score one from the library im here rite now07:28
hcboxis it possible to migrate frome debian to ubuntu without any disk07:28
elite101they have them sitting around they not using them07:29
danny500what kind of fast are you talking about? :P07:29
elite101lol i was asking cuz it would be offtopic >.<07:29
danny500hcbox, install the ubuntu desktop07:29
danny500thats it07:29
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elite101if i said with out kubunt07:29
hcboxas apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ... is it so easy...07:29
elite101kubuntu*07:29
elite101mhm07:29
tid-wavehello. I can't change the MAC address of my NIC in the configuration file(/etc/network/interfaces). If I manually change it with ifconfig eth2 hw ether xx:xx... it works but if I put the mac addr in the interfaces file it doesn't get set at boot. What should I do ?07:30
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TunaTomdann500: Is there ubuntu-desktop in debian?07:30
danny500I'm not sure but that might work, try it07:30
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elite101www.goodbye-microsoft.com07:30
elite101:P07:30
danny500use your package manager07:30
elite101installs using windows07:30
elite101NTFS07:30
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LjLkubuntu won't run well without a quadcode with 3 gigs of ram unfortunately, but you can try with DSL running under VMWare running under WINE running under Xubuntu, it's lighter07:30
elite101well i gotta07:30
elite101bye07:30
danny500I know in Ubuntu I can switch to Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and all the other buntu using the package manager07:30
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jhutchinsLjL: You are talking through your hat.07:31
XboxUserCan anyone help me install this? http://www.freebyte.com/linux/libraries/ dunno what to do :( I need that for hjsplit07:31
Dr_Willisswitch with the package manager?  I just pick what one to use from the Login screen. :)07:31
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LjLjhutchins: it's im afraid of the pollution07:32
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danny500XboxUser: ./configer; make; make install07:32
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llutztid-wave:put a script to change in /etc/network/pre-up.d07:32
llutz /etc/network/if-pre-up.d   sry07:32
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TunaTomXboxUser: sudo aptitude install build-essential07:33
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Jucato!compile | XboxUser07:34
ubotuXboxUser: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:34
geniiXboxUser: sudo ./configure it should have been in what danny suggested. You may also nned to put sudo in front of the next 2 commands as well. First also you should have the packages Tunatom suggests07:34
TunaTomXboxUser: Do you know how to use the console?07:34
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tid-wavellutz: thank you for the tip07:34
danny500download the file. Open terminal, click and drag the configure file into the terminal then when it's done going through that type make and press enter, after that type make install and press enter, Then you should be good.07:35
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danny500elite07:36
Jucatogenii: sudo ./configure? sudo make? O.o07:36
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drewcipher_Jucato: I thought sudo was only needed for        make install07:37
llutzno need for sudo with configure/make and never install with "make install"07:37
Jucatoit is..07:37
llutzuse checkinstall07:37
XboxUserbah im still sooo confused07:37
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geniiJucato: Damn. Obviously i need some more coffee. these nights with 4 hours sleep are killing my brain07:37
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Jucatoand with the proper setup, no need for sudo make install either...07:37
TunaTomXboxUser: Ever used the console?07:37
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XboxUseryep07:38
stuqcould someone tell me how to eliminate strigidaemon from startup?07:38
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TunaTomDid you download that file?07:38
XboxUsernot very familiar with the commands yet though :(07:38
stuqI'm not seeing it in session manager07:38
XboxUseryep07:38
TunaTomDid you unpack it?07:38
Jucatoa proper ./configure --prefix is preferred over checkinstall...07:38
XboxUseryep07:38
stdindh_make is even better07:39
JucatoXboxUser: did you read the CompilingSoftware guide?07:39
danny500kudos on what Jucato said07:39
TunaTomXboxUser: In the console go to the new directory.07:39
TunaTomXboxUser: There you type:07:39
XboxUserdone07:39
llutzJucato: use both, always better to have a bad .deb than just install without package-system07:39
TunaTom./configure07:39
TunaTomXboxUser: Then a lot of stuff should scroll by.07:39
Jucatobetter to have a bad nothing :)07:40
XboxUserbash: ./configure: No such file or directory07:40
danny500XboxUser: /home/username/directory/configure07:40
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danny500then  make07:40
danny500then make install07:40
TunaTomdanny500: You're too fast07:40
danny500lol sorry07:41
TunaTomXboxUser: You are in the wrong directory. What does the command ls say?07:41
llutzJucato: just to avoid trouble when updating/removing etc. i prefer to use .debs07:41
z1pp3rI have an application running on a machine with dual cpu's (not just dual-core). However, the said application only uses one of the cpu's. What gives?07:42
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Jucatollutz: removing is easy. again with the proper setup. updating is even messier with debs vs. repository packages07:42
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Jucatowith the proper --prefix and setup, no matter how many times your system updates the packages, it will still use your compiled app07:43
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TunaTomXboxUser: Dont. Here's help.07:43
danny500XboxUser. You learn how to use Linux that'l open up alot of stuff for you07:44
Dr_WillisI would give out some snide comment.. :) but i will restrain myself.07:44
danny500Windows = Games, Linux= GOD07:44
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danny500-_o07:44
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Dr_Willisoops.. wid i say that in my outside voice..07:44
Dr_Willis:)07:44
danny500hehe07:45
Dr_WillisHmm.. My darn new PC has a 'fan rattle/whine' when the cpu hits 100%07:45
danny500I only have one problem with Linux and thats some times you get a crappy install and sometimes you don't07:45
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Dr_Willisevery time i see someone blame 'linux' its not 'linux;s' problem   - its the decsions the disrto makers do thats that is the problem. :)07:46
danny500yup07:46
danny500WHO TOOK ZSNES OFF THE PACKAGE MANAGERS?07:46
Jucato!caps07:46
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:46
danny500sorry07:46
Dr_Willisdanny500 using the 64bit disrto?07:46
danny5003207:46
Jucatodanny500: no one did07:46
Jucato!info zsnes07:46
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)07:47
Dr_Williszsnes is 32 bit only. it was in the packages yesterday07:47
danny500well it's not there anymore :(07:47
Jucato!info zsnes gutsy07:47
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.510-1 (gutsy), package size 878 kB, installed size 4060 kB (Only available for i386)07:47
Jucatostill there07:47
danny500I have feisty fawn07:47
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Dr_WillisBEBKAC07:47
Dr_Willis:)07:47
Dr_Willisoops.. Pebkac.07:47
Jucatostill there, in both07:47
danny500hmmm, thats weird.07:47
Dr_Willischeck ya sources?07:47
Dr_Willisapt-get update, upgrade, try again07:47
danny500It doesn't show up on my installers07:47
danny500I have all the sources installed07:47
Jucatosudo apt-get install zsnes07:48
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danny500well even still. With my installers on strike right now and all haha07:48
danny500sudo: can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied07:48
Jucatooh yeah.. messed up filesystem?07:49
Dr_Willisis this back to the chmod 00007 fiasco?07:49
danny500I guess07:49
Dr_Willisgood luck. :)07:49
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Netkiller3714ok how would I fix this problem anyways?07:50
Dr_Willisfix your chmod 0007  issue?07:50
Netkiller3714I'm thinking theres a problem with the /etc/sudoers07:50
Netkiller3714ya that to, I think me going sudo chmod 00007 / started it all07:50
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Dr_Willisid bet its an issue with the permissions you just set on etc07:51
Dr_Willisand everything else in /07:51
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Netkiller3714ok how do I set normal permissions?07:51
Dr_Willisboot a live cd, see what perms it has on / stuff, then go to the mounted installed system and chmod them all back the way they should be.07:51
CBZ32He yall07:51
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Dr_Willisdrwxr-xr-x 132 root root 12288 2007-09-19 10:48 etc07:52
Dr_Willisdrwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2007-08-14 02:21 home07:52
Dr_Willisare the 2 main dirs of impiorntance.07:52
Netkiller3714bash: drwxr-xr-x: command not found07:52
Dr_Willismost of the dirs in / are that way.07:52
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Dr_WillisNetkiller3714 now is when you should learn some bash basics. I think07:52
Dr_Willisls -l07:52
Dr_Willisshows all teh dirs/permissions07:52
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Dr_Williswhich i bet for yours are like -----------x07:53
Netkiller3714want me to pastebin it?07:53
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Dr_Willisnot really. : ) i m  Out of here in 3 min anyway.07:53
Netkiller3714:(07:53
Dr_Willisyou used the chmod command to mess them up. use it to fix the dirs07:53
Netkiller3714ok07:54
Dr_Willissudo chmod SOMTHING /etc07:54
Dr_WillisLogical thinking  :)07:54
Dr_Willisassuming it even lets you chmod them back07:54
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Netkiller3714nope07:55
Netkiller3714permission denied :@07:55
Netkiller3714I think I might need to reinstall O_O07:55
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Netkiller3714!pastebin07:56
Dr_Williswindows user mentliyty!07:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:56
Dr_Willis:)07:56
Netkiller3714pastebin!07:56
Netkiller3714wtf?07:56
Netkiller3714oh lol07:56
Dr_Willisor like i said.. use a live cd.,  mount your / then chmod the dirs.07:56
Jucato(one by one :P)07:56
Netkiller3714yay07:56
Dr_Willisyep :)07:56
Dr_Willisor cheat and use mc.07:56
Netkiller3714mc?07:57
Dr_Willis!mc07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:57
Dr_Willis!info mc07:57
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Dr_WillisThe ultimate filemanger.07:57
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB07:57
Dr_WillisOr just reinstall.. will proberly be faster for you. :)07:57
Dr_Willisthen read some bash starter guides over the weekend.07:57
Netkiller3714haha ok07:57
Dr_Willisdare i even ASK where/how you learned of 'chmod 00007 /'   ??07:58
Netkiller3714who gave it that name bash?07:58
Netkiller3714around07:58
Netkiller3714here lol07:58
Dr_WillisI bet they are all laughing at you :)07:58
Netkiller3714I think I added to many 0's07:58
Dr_Willisi cant even think of a use for 000707:58
Netkiller3714I think it should be 000707:58
Netkiller3714lol thats it07:58
Netkiller3714000707:58
Dr_Willisnow 777 makes more sence.. its just as BAD.. but not as bad as 000707:58
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Netkiller3714what does 0007 do anyways lol07:59
slackernNetkiller3714: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash07:59
runleveltenthat's classified.07:59
Dr_Willisrember what i said earlier about learning some bash basics? :)07:59
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poison--error while trying to axx linux share with samba: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED07:59
poison--any ideas?07:59
Dr_Willisman chmod07:59
Netkiller3714ok08:00
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drewcipher_lutz:  (delayed reaction)  regarding never install with "make install", what is the preferred method?08:00
Dr_Willisfor a start. and theres a lot of bash/shell starter guides out. because anytying we say.. will leade you to ask.. ok what does 'executable' mean.. what does... whatever mean...08:00
Dr_Willis:)08:00
Dr_Willis'whats a shell' heh.. wheres the tab key? whats a !08:00
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jhutchins!info flexbackup08:00
ubotuflexbackup: Flexible backup tool for small to medium sized installations. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-5ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 332 kB08:00
Dr_Willis:) and its time for me to go to work. good luck.08:00
Dr_Willisbyee08:00
Netkiller3714wheres the "any" key?08:00
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Netkiller3714I just got the joke about Dr Willis08:01
Netkiller3714nvm08:01
runleveltenNetkiller3714: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond08:01
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Netkiller3714does anyone know where the any key is?08:01
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runleveltenIt's the one with a bendy arrow on.08:03
poison--its a combined use of keys08:03
poison--usually Ctrl+Alt+Del08:03
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poison--:D08:03
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Netkiller3714lol a n y at the same time haha08:03
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Netkiller3714thats weird.08:04
Netkiller3714everytime I press a n y at the same time I always get yna08:04
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Netkiller3714yna08:05
Netkiller3714yna08:05
Netkiller3714see08:05
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poison--anyone knows a cool app to add/remove users?08:09
poison--the default one crashes all the time08:09
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Daskreech2So cool it will get you dates?08:10
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jhutchinspoison--: useradd/adduser08:11
Daskreech2 I've never heard of adding and removing users from a system as "cool" :)08:11
jhutchinspoison--: You probably need to figure out the crash though.08:11
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Jucatopoison--: kuser08:11
Jucatobut jhutchins is right08:12
poison--nice08:12
poison--ty08:12
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poison--didnt work fine... cant create folders 4 passwd ans stuff08:18
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paolo "Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points"08:21
paolo[20:20]  <paolo> this is what i see with iwlist08:21
paolohow can i solve?08:21
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GuHhHi need some help... im trying to remove some packages with dpkg --purge, but it says  it has dependencies... --force do not solves the problem08:40
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JuJuBeegot weird behavior shutting down. If I use the Turn Off button my computer does not shut down, the monitor turns off  but the computer stays on.  If I use sudo shutdown now all is good. ?08:45
JuJuBeeSame for restart08:45
slapfacewareis there kde4?08:45
slapfacewarecan i run kde4 in kubuntu08:45
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slapfacewareis there kde4 in pository08:47
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emilsedghslapfaceware: thats in feisty-backports08:47
dASkreech!topic | slapfaceware08:47
ubotuslapfaceware: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:47
stdinslapfaceware: I see you don't read the topic...08:47
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slapfacewaretopic? what's that08:48
stdinslapfaceware:  ubotu just told you08:48
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TunaTomWhy should anyone want to know how much shared memory a given process uses?08:49
dASkreechTunaTom: Profiling?08:50
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TunaTomdASkreech: That's why ps, top, htop and ksysguard all show that by default?08:51
TunaTomI can't think of an practical use that value could give me in my day to day work.08:51
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dASkreechSo take it out08:52
JohnFluxTunaTom: a frequent use of ksysguard is to kill programs that have run out of control :)08:52
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dASkreechOh right JohnFlux should know :)08:53
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TunaTomOkay, but do you use the value of "Shared Memory" as criterion for which process to kill?08:53
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TunaTomDoes something like a "shared memory leak" exist?08:54
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TunaTomToo offtopic?08:54
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dASkreechNot yet but getting there08:55
JohnFluxTunaTom: I think you often want to see what programs are using up all your memory08:55
dASkreechshared memory can be used as criteria for killing I suspect08:55
paymunhi im new to linux and im updating everything with /adept updater but I got this pop up Debconf, Services to restart for PAM library upgrade: kdm cupsys cron atd when i press next i goto a black screen i dunno what to do08:55
Black_Monkeyhi, what can I get to see the sizes of a load of a long list of folders?08:55
JohnFluxTunaTom: especially when you are very low on memory :)08:56
dASkreechif something is using a lot of memory but most of it is shared then killing it doesn't really affect your overall profile08:56
stdinpaymun: you should remove kdm from that list08:56
paymunstdin kdm from the list in the updates?08:56
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TunaTomdASkreech: You mean "Memory" inkludes "Shared Memory"?08:57
stdinpaymun: from the list "kdm cupsys cron atd" remove "kdm"08:57
martijn81what is the best way to learn xml?08:57
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paymunok thx08:57
dASkreechTunaTom: Really should ask JohnFlux :)08:57
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dASkreechmartijn81: Practice08:58
JohnFluxTunaTom: http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/krunner_systemactivity1.png08:58
Squirrely_WrathOkay, total noob question.   How do I save changes that I made using nano?08:58
JohnFluxTunaTom: these are the columns in kde408:58
dASkreechSquirrely_Wrath: There is a menu at the bottom of the screen08:58
JohnFluxTunaTom: an old screenshot (it's a bit more pretty now) but same columns remain08:58
Squirrely_WrathYes, but no save option in the menu08:58
TunaTomJohnFlux: I am currently writing the documentation for that ver program.08:58
JohnFluxTunaTom: for kde4?08:59
JohnFluxTunaTom: ah very neat08:59
JohnFluxTunaTom: thank you :)08:59
TunaTomNo, thank you :)08:59
paymunoh sweet stdin ::08:59
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slapfacewareanyone running kde409:01
TunaTomsure09:01
JohnFluxTunaTom: I think the best you can say is that Memory is the memory that the program uniquely uses09:01
Squirrely_Wrathso...anyone tell me the shortcut for saving changes in nano?  No save option on the bottom portion of the screen.09:01
JohnFluxTunaTom: Shared Memory is the memory that can be shared among other programs09:01
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nzkArgh, why won't Liferea open!? I open it in KDE Ubuntu 7.04, and it shows the little loading thing next to the pointer, then vanishes, without a trace. Doesn't open.09:02
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TunaTomI just got a very nice answer in ##linux, but thanks anyway.09:02
JohnFluxSquirrely_Wrath: ctrl+x  and quit ? :)09:02
JohnFluxSquirrely_Wrath: that will ask if you want to save09:02
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Squirrely_WrathAh, thanks john09:02
Black_Monkeywhat's the name of that program which shows squares representing the sizes of all the files/folders inside a folder?09:02
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JucatoBlack_Monkey: Konqueror. View menu -> View mode -> File Size View09:02
Black_Monkey>_< ahh, didn't realise konqueror does it, thanks Jucato09:03
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TunaTomJohnFlux: I just learned that shared memory can be misused as every other memory, too.09:04
TunaTomSo memory leaks can affect shared memory as well.09:04
TunaTomAnd the "Memory" value inkludes "Shared Memory"09:04
JohnFluxTunaTom: no it doesn't :-D09:05
JohnFluxTunaTom: where did you read that? :)09:05
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TunaTomI understood it from what the guys in ##linux told me.09:05
JohnFluxTunaTom: the Memory column is smarter than top or kde309:05
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JohnFluxTunaTom: it's not the RSS value that you get in top or kde3 ksysguard09:05
TunaTomSo? What does the memory column show?09:06
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JohnFluxTunaTom: it shows the actual physical memory used by that app, not including shared libraries09:06
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JohnFluxTunaTom: aka URSS - unique RSS09:07
JohnFluxTunaTom: look at the screenshot:  http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/krunner_systemactivity1.png   you can see for some apps, the shared memory is higher than memory09:07
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JohnFluxTunaTom: the memory column is the best way to judge how much memory an app is using09:07
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TunaTomJohnFlux: Damn, I could have seen that on my own screen !09:08
JohnFluxTunaTom: top and kde3 ksysguard show useless numbers09:08
JohnFluxand lie to you :-)09:08
ubuntu_testing...09:08
JohnFluxubuntu_: didn't work09:08
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progress0rim having a weird problem with video - i can only play video from the web or dvd using mplayer (command line) or maybe one other media app. The others (gstreamer/totem etc) display the video as smashed together vertically. somewhat difficult to explain.Anyone had this happen?09:08
TunaTomJohnFlux: You have deep insight into the workings of the System Activity tool. How come?09:09
JohnFluxTunaTom: I wrote it09:09
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TunaTomNo09:09
JohnFluxlol09:09
TunaTomCool, first time for me to meet an actual kde dev!09:09
JohnFluxlol09:09
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JohnFluxTunaTom: you can read all about me :-D http://www.behindkde.org/people/johnflux/?language=en09:10
Riddellhe's famous is oor JohnFlux09:11
JohnFluxRiddell: btw, I told you that the kde4 release date would be pushed back :-D  I win!09:11
TunaTomBut in one question remains: Why then should I want to see that value?09:12
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NAZ87Anyone would please help me with pppoe internet connection?09:13
Tm_TRiddell sir, welcome back09:14
TunaTomI have to leave. Thanks JohnFlux. Can I ask some more tomorrow?09:14
JohnFluxTunaTom: sure09:14
JohnFluxTunaTom: i'm always around09:14
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JohnFlux:-D09:14
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TunaTom:)09:15
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jhutchinsLike we're going to limit answers to one day.09:16
jhutchinsNAZ87: This isn't your first time on, is it.09:16
jhutchinsNAZ87: What's the problem?09:16
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NAZ87yes, it is my first time here09:17
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NAZ87maybe is better going in private?09:17
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NAZ87jhutchins, i'm sorry for my English...09:18
dASkreechNAZ87: No answers are always better in the open09:20
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NAZ87ok, ok09:21
NAZ87so...09:21
RiddellTm_T: I'm not back anywhere, still in Tenerife (also I'm yet to be offered a knighthood)09:21
NAZ87i don't exactly know how to connect properly my pc on the Net...09:21
Tm_TRiddell: oh, so sorry sir, my mistake09:21
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Riddelldon't hide!  just stop calling me sir09:21
NAZ87i have a Ethernet modem09:21
RiddellJohnFlux: did I doubt you?09:22
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ScorpKingNAZ87: model? make?09:22
NAZ87and I use to connect it by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop09:22
NAZ87and then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start"09:23
NAZ87... and it works, because i configured the modem with pppoe conf, but...09:23
paolo_i'm still fighting with my wi-fi nic. drivers seem correctly installed, but iwconfig says " Access Point: Not-Associated" what should i do? thniks09:23
JohnFluxRiddell: i don't think so :-D09:23
Tm_TRiddell: yes, sir!09:23
JohnFluxRiddell: but uh I win anyway09:23
NAZ87first of all: the automatic connection at startup doesn't work09:24
NAZ87and, i wish i could connect my pc using a graphical application09:25
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NAZ87in my Kubuntu 7.04 there is Knetwork manager but it seems to be "under" the command "networking-start"09:26
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NAZ87and i don't know how to use it  well09:26
NAZ87any suggestion?09:26
ScorpKingNAZ87: the command you always used should work. check your cable and whatever you get dhcp from.09:27
jhutchinsNAZ87: I'll see what answers you get from people familiar with the GUI before I recommend diald.09:28
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jhutchinsI seem to remember a pppoe specific package from a few years ago, non-gui also.09:28
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ScorpKingjhutchins: how does diald work on eth0? that should be straight forward networking right?09:29
NAZ87SkorpKing:the command actually works... but why does the auto-connection at startup doesn't?09:29
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ScorpKingNAZ87: not sure. is there anything in the logs maybe?09:29
jhutchinsdiald looks for attempts to route over a defined connection and brings up that connection on demand.  It's meant to work with dial-up ppp, but works fine with pppoe.09:29
centermediahello09:30
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umformerhi all09:30
centermediaoi09:30
centermediahi09:30
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jhutchinsNAZ87: I suppose you could add the command to rc.local09:30
NAZ87SkorpKing: don't call me stupid, but... what logs?09:30
ScorpKingjhutchins: i see. :)09:30
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umformerfirst time using irc09:31
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jhutchinsNAZ87: Main log is /var/log/messages, but ppp usually has it's own logs as well.09:31
centermediawhat skeaking portugues09:31
centermediaalguem fala portugues09:31
NAZ87ok...09:31
ScorpKingNAZ87: very few people are stupid. they're just uneducated.09:31
jhutchins!pt | centermedia09:31
ubotucentermedia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:31
jhutchinsNah, plenty of people are stupid, but not too many make it here!09:31
NAZ87the fact is that i cannot really know when my pc is connected and when is not...09:32
ScorpKinglol09:32
centermedia#ubuntu-pt09:32
jhutchinsNAZ87: We presume that if you're here, you have questions.  That or answering them amuses you.09:32
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poison--centermedia, eu falo09:32
centermediaou09:32
jhutchinsNAZ87: Um, there are packages to use the keyboard lights to monitor your connection, and any number of on-screen widgets that will tell you that.09:32
centermediablz09:32
umformerufff09:32
NAZ87because the small icon of Knetwork manager always shows that the PC is connected...09:33
umformerkids ?09:33
centermediapoison:09:33
poison--fala09:33
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centermediavc saca de servidores em linux:] 09:33
jhutchinsNAZ87: You need to set it to monitor the ppp connection, because it's showing the ethernet connection, which is always up.09:33
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NAZ87but sometimes i lost the connection (and i don't know if it's a network problem or a problem of my PC)09:33
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centermediasou ranso no merda do ruindos, to querendo migrar pros sistemas livres09:34
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centermediamas to meio sem um comeo09:34
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jhutchinsNAZ87: Dropped connections are just part of ppp.09:34
poison--entra no ubuntu-pt09:34
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NAZ87jhutchins: when i type the "stop" command in the shell, the icon shows that the connection is broken...09:35
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centermediablz09:36
NAZ87but i have to think it shows the ETHernet connection09:36
pagan0necan someone help me with serial ports in virtualbox, or direct me to where i can get help09:37
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jhutchinsNAZ87: You should be able to set up a "check ping" or "test ping" to monitor the connection, and set it to reconnect if it drops.09:39
jhutchinspagan0ne: #virtualbox?09:39
pagan0nejhutchins: was there, channel was empty?09:39
jhutchinspagan0ne: You'll probably have to try the forums/mailing list then.09:40
NAZ87jhutchins: good idea, but i'm sorry i don't think i'm able to do that...09:40
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NAZ87do i have to build a script?09:40
jhutchinsNAZ87: I don't have the gui stuff, but it seems to me that kppp does that.09:40
pagan0nejhutchins: no no that cant be :( oh well, ill try there unless someone else has some idea how to configure VBox to pass through serial port connections to the hardware09:40
NAZ87or maybe a bash command?09:40
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NAZ87jhutchins: I have kppp installed but i think it's only for dial-up connections09:42
NAZ87i mean: in the program description is written that it works with dial-up connection09:42
jhutchinsNAZ87: I think it will also work with pppoe, because it works for pptp/vpn.09:42
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NAZ87jhutchins: ok, thanks, i will try (not now because i have to go...)09:43
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jhutchinsalso take a look at the docs for pppd.09:43
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NAZ87jhutchins: where can i find them?09:44
jhutchinsman pppd, # pppd in konq09:44
NAZ87jhutchins: ok thanks, very kind of you... now i have to go, i'm going to try with kppp tomorrow09:46
NAZ87see you here!!!09:46
NAZ87bye bye everybody09:46
NAZ87 (and sorry for my bad English) ;)09:46
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poison--now im getting really crazy with smb09:48
poison--im able to axx the linux share but after i getinto the folder, it says folder doesnt exist09:48
poison--lmao09:48
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pagan0neanyone know how i can get a listing of what serial ports ubuntu reconizes on my system, and what hardware is attached to those ports?09:51
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parsniphi all09:52
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: you can't probe serial ports for hardware09:53
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: there's no standard for sending such questions to anything attached to the serial port09:54
pagan0neJohnFlux: that sucks, so theres no way to know what i have connected to ttyS2 and ttyS3 just from the software? to see if they are even talking to the hardware?09:54
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you can view the raw data09:54
JohnFluxpagan0ne: cat /dev/ttyS209:54
pagan0neJohnFlux: ill try that, thanks09:55
pagan0neJohnFlux: is there even any way to tell IF sompthing is connected?09:55
JohnFluxpagan0ne: none09:55
JohnFluxpagan0ne: the serial port is the most basic port.  It's just a bunch of data lines09:55
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JohnFluxuh opps09:56
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pagan0neJohnFlux: lol, i figured as much, but was hoping that i could atleast get software to tell me SOMPTHING was connected...09:56
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boubbinis it possible to "boot" ubuntu with "/" not mounted ?09:56
JohnFluxpagan0ne: it's just a bunch of data lines with a chip that talks the standard protocol RS23209:56
parsnipIs there any way to make apt-get automatically download dependancies without me having to say yes to download them09:57
JohnFluxboubbin: sure - you have a filesystem rolled into boot files09:57
boubbin:)09:57
JohnFluxboubbin: called an initrd - - initial ram disk09:57
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boubbini need to resize the / partition09:57
JohnFluxboubbin: I would just boot of a knoppix disk then09:58
JohnFluxand use the gui resize tools on that09:58
boubbinyeah09:58
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JohnFluxboubbin: but it is totally doable from the initrd09:58
pagan0neJohnFlux: well say i had a bin file i needed to flash to a device, in windows the manufacturer provides a spefic utility to flash it with, and regular bin updates, however under ubuntu, the software wont run in wine, and i cant get the serial ports to pass through to a VM, is there any other way to try to flash the device? im not worried about bricking it....09:58
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JohnFluxboubbin: but I'm not sure if it includes a resize util09:58
JohnFluxboubbin: it's kept very small, for obvious reasons09:58
boubbinlivecd is fine09:58
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boubbinJohnFlux it has apt-get :P09:59
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JohnFluxboubbin: I meant the initrd10:00
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boubbinok nice10:00
JohnFluxpagan0ne: can you do "cat /dev/ttyS3"  or does it give an error?10:00
pagan0neJohnFlux: read/write error10:00
pagan0nepagan0ne: i beleave the device needs to be in a certin state to attempt the flash though, right after a hard reboot the device i beleave is ready to be flashed, havent tried cat'ing it then10:01
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JohnFluxpagan0ne:  it will be near impossible to do from linux.  you don't know what speed to talk to it even10:02
poison--how can i make a file to alow read/write/executable?10:02
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you don't know the parity to use, and so on10:02
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pagan0neJohnFlux: if i could find out speed and parity info would that help?10:03
JohnFluxpagan0ne: not really10:03
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you still don't know the command to put it in the correct mode10:03
JohnFluxpagan0ne:  well10:03
JohnFluxpagan0ne: if you are interested, you can attach a listener to the serial port, in windows, inside a VM10:03
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soonAny suggestions where I might get a FULL Openoffice package for my AMD64 based Kubuntu??10:04
JohnFluxpagan0ne: then write down what it sends to the data port10:04
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pagan0neJohnFlux: well asfar as communicating with the device, there's a chance i could get in touch with a developer for it, and get that kind of info,10:04
JohnFluxpagan0ne: then replicate that in linux.  it will probably only be a few characters10:04
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: you can run the windows program in vmware, and see what it sets the serial port to10:04
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: stupid question...10:06
JohnFluxpagan0ne: have you enabled serial ports in the bios10:06
pagan0neJohnFlux: that shouldnt be a problem, what program under linux would i use to set the mode, open the port, and transfer the bin10:06
JohnFluxpagan0ne: that would be what is preventing you from passing the serial ports to vmware10:06
pagan0neJohnFlux: yeah, serial ports are enabled under bios, when i dual boot, windows sees them fine10:06
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: windows enables them and overrides the bios10:06
JohnFluxpagan0ne: linux doesn't10:06
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: might want to double check your bios settings10:07
geniipoison--: chmod XX   where XX is +x or +r or +w    or -x -r or -w10:07
pagan0neJohnFlux: if windows is doing that, it would be the first time ive seen it, ill double check, but im 99% sure its enabled10:07
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: it's well known that IBM etc laptops disable the bios ports in the bios for some reason10:08
JohnFluxpagan0ne: so that they work in windows (which turns them back on) but not in linux10:09
pagan0neJohnFlux: custom built rig, with a gigabit mobo10:09
JohnFluxpagan0ne: one problem that I also had once..10:09
JohnFluxpagan0ne: turned out that a braille driver auto attaches to the serial port10:09
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pagan0neill make sure thats off, thanks for the heads up there10:10
JohnFluxpagan0ne: I had to rmmod it10:10
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you need to get to the state where cat /proc/ttyS2  doesn't give errors10:10
JohnFluxpagan0ne: that means linux can't see it10:10
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you can try:   cat /proc/tty/driver/serial10:11
pagan0neJohnFlux: ok,. ill see what i can do... maby it is a bios issue10:11
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JohnFluxpagan0ne: that will sure you if it at least sees the UART10:11
JohnFluxthe UART is the chip that does the RS232 talk10:11
JohnFluxpagan0ne: good luck10:11
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pagan0newhen i cat /proc/tty/driver/serial i get 5 lines of text back, what am i looking for?10:12
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pagan0neJohnFlux: 0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:0 rx:0  ?? that means it sees it right?10:12
poison--ty genii10:13
mboxhi10:13
poison--still cant write nfo with smb on smb4k.lock :(10:13
poison--root@takedown:~# ls -l /var/lock/10:13
mboxis there a way, that after "unrar -x file.rar" the rar files get deleted if it got extracet OK?10:14
poison--total 410:14
poison---rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 835 2007-09-19 17:00 smb4k.lock10:14
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poison--anitin wrong there?10:14
JohnFluxpagan0ne: on ttyS0 only10:14
JohnFluxpagan0ne: you want it presumably on ttyS3 etc10:15
pagan0neJohnFlux: ok, well ttyS0 isnt listed in /dev10:15
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dASkreechpoison--: Hmm? Permissions?10:15
poison--yeap10:15
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dASkreechsoon: What is Full ?10:15
JohnFluxpagan0ne: oh hmm10:15
JohnFluxpagan0ne: i don't know10:15
JohnFlux;)10:15
poison--think im gonna reinstall smb10:15
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soonThe package provided by Ubuntu does not include all, of the original OOo packages as far as I can tell10:16
soonI think I found the deb files here though : http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m228/Build-1/10:16
GuHhHmy apache always points to the same page, even if i use differents virtualhosts at different dirs... help please! apache2ctl -S -> http://apache.pastebin.ca/70375310:16
pagan0neJohnFlux: any reason it wouldnt be listed? it starts at ttyS210:16
dASkreechmbox: && rm file.rar10:16
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dASkreechsoon: What is missing?10:17
dASkreechhi ompaul10:17
mboxdASkreech: yeah but then i have to retype the filename everytime ... is thought more of a parameter ... man page does not help me ;(10:18
soonIm not exactly sure - I've uninstalled the Ubuntu package10:18
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ompauldASkreech, hi10:19
poison--brb10:19
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dASkreechmbox: bash as a thing where you can reuse the last parameter10:19
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mboxkkthx10:20
dASkreechmbox: try && rm !$10:21
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_oshIf I upload something through frost, the uploaded file does have some overhead put into persistent-temp, right? So how much does a file grow by?10:23
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_oshIf I want to upload 1GB, how much extra space do I need to convert and start the upload? 20% 50%?10:24
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_oshArgh. Wrong channel.10:24
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flakeHi, I just installed a SB Audigy SE for cheap, it works great after setting it as the default sound card10:27
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flakeI tried to play wolf et while having my music playing, but the sound is muted in ET.  Is there a way I can do both10:28
flakevlc is playing the music10:28
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dASkreech!keys10:33
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net (GNOME) or https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys (KDE) - See !Keyboard for changing layouts10:33
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newbiehi10:43
newbiedoes anyone know how to set up a webcam in linux10:43
newbieI have a logitech  quickcam pro 300010:43
newbieand it doesnt seem to work10:43
stdin!webcam10:43
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:43
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DaSkreechlo10:48
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dennis__errr10:50
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dennis__so who wants to walk me through this 3D problem with ATI10:51
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CappinItrebalI'm trying to configure a printer to be shared via CUPs within my local network, but I can't actually log into the System Administrator's "Print Server" -> "Configure Server" dialoge ; I've added my user to the lpadmin group (the SystemGroup directive in my CUPS config file) and I still can't access it, I also gave root a password and tried that, but to no avail10:52
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jhutchinsCappinItrebal: http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd10:54
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CappinItrebalaye, thanks10:55
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CappinItrebalyarr, *tosses jhutchins a dabloon - talklikeapirate.com )10:56
DaSkreechdenism_: Which ?10:57
jhutchinsI am a pirate, from a long line of pirates.  My family was in Jamaica when there was no legitimate business in Jamaica.  By definition, the way I talk IS how a pirate talks.10:57
jhutchinsarrrgg.10:57
CappinItrebalarrrgg10:58
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ugaokay... finally this is getting in shape10:59
DaSkreechArrrrrr10:59
CappinItrebalarrg, this isn't working right.. *plays with it a touch more*10:59
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uganow lets recover the home from my old disk11:00
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jhutchinsCappinItrebal: If that URL is still valid for Feisty, please let me know.11:00
CappinItrebalok11:00
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ugais it possible to hotplug an IDE drive? =)11:00
DaSkreechjhutchins: course that's actually true for me :)11:01
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DaSkreechreplacing politician with pirate but ... close enough11:01
stdinuga: nay, it not be sommin' yer be wantin' te do11:02
CappinItrebalaye, jhutchins: its worse - it just freezes now11:04
CappinItrebaldoesn't let me even type in a password11:04
ScorpKingit's possible but not advised. i got a friend who hotplug his hd when he feels like it.11:04
ugastdin: I thought the channel was meant to be in english :P11:04
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jhutchinsCappinItrebal: arg, sounds like somethin' else be amiss as well.11:04
stdinit be english, aye11:04
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jhutchinsScorpKing: I used to hot-patch 220 volt theatre lights - but I don't recommend it.11:05
dappermuisaye stdin, ol peg-leg day!11:05
CappinItrebaljhutchins: yarr, I'm going to reinstall kubuntu, matey, I've only had it for a few days (haven't done more than an hours work on them) and I've been screwing it up the whole time :P11:05
jhutchinsCappinItrebal: easier to reinstall when it's not three years of settings and customization.11:06
CappinItrebalyep11:06
CappinItrebaland I figured if I messed it up this quickly, I'll have bigger problems later on :P11:06
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Kein!adeptfix > Kein11:07
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virashello everybody11:10
virasjoin #compiz-fusion11:10
stdinviras: any reason?11:11
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cloakablestdin: Because viras says so, apparently.11:13
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cloakablehehe11:14
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stdinto the plank with ye! :p11:15
ugastdin: I really can't understand how linux support can be so bad on recentish cpu and boards11:16
ugait took me ages to set this one up11:16
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ugaif I had not been using linux since 98, I'd have given up11:16
cloakablestdin: It wouldn't install :P11:17
cloakableDebian would. No contest :P11:17
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jhutchinsuga: You would think people would notice if they couldn't install it.11:21
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jhutchins...but no, they go blithely ahead and run it, using it on a daily basis, in offices and homes.11:21
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KartiHi all, just a quick one, anyone know of some good links/link for tutorials to create login screens and themes etc11:25
ugajhutchins: oh, they do. I've seen tons of forums commenting on teh bugs I just had11:25
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ugajhutchins: and they aren't new. Rather oldish11:25
ugayet, unfixed even on the next gen versions11:25
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ugajhutchins: its' not like the distros don't support the hw. It's just the installers are seriously broken11:26
ugajhutchins: notice it's not hw hard to boot up. Wen XP managed bot11:27
ugabooting, no matter it bein gnew11:28
ugabut the installer was unable to even find an ide cd-rom, where it's booting from11:28
ugaand then the installer tries once and again using stupid framebuffer modes, even in safe graphics modes11:28
jhutchinsYou would think with so many people unable to install it without advanced knowledge there would be fewer people using it.11:29
ugajhutchins: there _are_ fewer peope using it11:29
jhutchinsAll going to Vista, are they?11:30
ugaI installed linux on many people's boxes myself. They don't dare installing11:30
ugajhutchins: no, they hate vista, they use XP11:30
dappermuisKarti, the best way to learn is to study existing themes :D11:30
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jhutchinsuga: Fascinating.  What planet is this on again?11:31
ugajhutchins: I know it's hard ot make something work on all hw (rather, impossible), but... these bugs got identified and solved this same year11:31
Kartidappermuis: cheers, I'm generally happy with that but its the location and an idea of where to start,11:31
ugajhutchins: you ever go outside this channel?11:31
ugapeople do use windows, no matter what you think11:31
jhutchinsuga: No, I'm just a bot.11:31
ugaif do you, you sure know most don't ever think about linux11:32
ugaand lots hate vista11:32
ugaits' buggy as hell11:32
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dappermuisKarti, what i've done in the past is to download a theme or whatever from kde-look.org and then try make sense of it - the configuration files generally tend to show locations, etc11:32
ugajhutchins: so far I've told many friends that they should try newest linux distros and that new machines will run fine11:33
uganow I don't dare. Really don't11:33
jhutchinsYep, soon linux will just be a memory and a hobby among old geeks.11:33
DaSkreechyou don't dare?11:33
Kartidappermuis: Thanks, that where I am currently getting my inspiration from!11:33
dappermuissorry to jump in so late, but uga, what new machines don't run linux?11:33
ugaDaSkreech: after seeing myself in pain installing kubuntu? no, I don't11:33
dappermuisKarti :)11:33
DaSkreechuga: :)11:33
DaSkreechjhutchins: Though honestly installing is a pain for most people11:34
DaSkreechI know people who call the computer Word11:34
ugadappermuis: get an asus p5k board, plug the CD drive to the IDE, and have fun. No CD-Rom found... and... its' booting from CD!11:34
jhutchinsDaSkreech: Well, some of the questions are a bid hard if you've never done anything but point-and-click11:34
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dappermuisDaSkreech, imho its easier to install kubuntu than windows11:34
DaSkreechYeah I've gotten that already/ That was fun11:34
ugadappermuis: the CD per se is supported, just the drivers aren't properly loaded11:34
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DaSkreechdappermuis: Agreed too11:35
DaSkreechdappermuis: But we are talking about people who can't install windows either11:35
ugadappermuis: I had to install XP and dig for info on the net. I haven't installed windows on any of my boxes for the last 5 years11:35
DaSkreechThey can barely install a program11:35
dappermuisuga, i see - though how often does that really happen? maybe in special cases it does, but im sure that it also happens on windows11:35
dappermuisSaSkreech, i see :)11:35
jhutchinsSomeone who had run linux before, or been around the linux community, might know that Asus boards are not known for good support.  Not even in Windows for that matter.11:35
DaSkreechThe kind of people who you tell to click on next and they call you back after a half hour to ask you which button the Next button on the keyboard is beside11:35
dappermuislol11:36
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dappermuisyes, asus is pretty crap on windows11:36
ugadappermuis: I don't think it's that especial. I'm half sure it happens on any system with sata drives and an ide CD11:36
dappermuismy mom had countless problems till i told her to get a thinkpad ;)11:36
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dappermuisuga, nope - i've got multiple sata drives and an ide cd drive11:37
dappermuisrelatively old board though11:37
DaSkreechAnyway11:37
DaSkreech Night!11:37
ugadappermuis: what's strange is the solution... boot option generic.all_generic_ide=1. Do you know what it exactly does?11:37
jhutchinsuga: Yeah, so all those people with sata drives and CD's must be running XP, and only pretending to ask questions here about stuff like ATI video.11:37
ugaloads all IDE modules?11:37
ScorpKingi had a ASUS P5PE-VM board and it worked fine with kubuntu11:37
ugajhutchins: sata drives and IDE CDs11:37
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jhutchinsYeah, them.11:37
dappermuisuga, nope, don't know - but i'm sure google can tell you11:38
mauriwhen i download the upgrades, where are they located on the disk before to install them11:38
ugajhutchins: most don't even know what IDE is when they buy sata boxes ;)11:38
jhutchinsThousands of people every day.  How sad!11:38
ugajhutchins: you don't have thousands of people installing linux on a daily basis, anyway ;))11:38
ugadappermuis: google helps when you can boot the machine and get a network11:38
dappermuislol - right11:38
ugadappermuis: and half the solutions were broken, and nobody on irc could help11:38
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ugaout of ... 400 people, nobody had a clue11:39
ugaso... how many people really install linux on those kind of boxes=11:39
ugaanswer: nobody11:39
jhutchinsOver 2000 people hit distrowatch's ubuntu page in the last thirty days.  They must be terribly disappointed that they can't install it.11:39
ugajhutchins: read up there...11:39
ugaif people don't hit those bugs, is because they don't install linux on them11:39
maurihave the kubuntu a 3d desktop as vista?11:39
ugaand they are pretty popular new boxes11:39
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jhutchinsYeah, linux is doomed allright.11:40
dappermuisuga, it seems you experienced a problem which isn't too common11:40
jhutchinsMight as well shut the channel down.11:40
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ugajhutchins: dont' act like a jerk, please. I'm just saying that either people go nuts like me, or they don't bother installing linux. Because the bugs exist on new popular boxes11:40
ugaand given half the results in google don't help, I believe they do go nuts11:41
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ugadappermuis: I hope it's not that common, but the machine is ;)11:41
ugadappermuis: asus boards aren't exactly unpopular11:41
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dappermuisuga, they're not exactly that popular either :)11:41
ugadappermuis: true that possibly people don't use IDE drives on them11:41
ugadappermuis: what do people use,... abit? =)11:42
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ugasomebody here told me that asus is one of the best supported boards... when I wanted intel ;)11:42
jhutchinsThen again, it could just be that you happened to hit a problem you didn't understand, and it's not something that bothers the millions of other linux users in the world.  Lonely as that may seem, it's likely.11:42
dappermuiserm, intel boards?11:42
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ugajhutchins: okay, my machine is unique  =)11:42
jhutchinsuga: Coming in here and declaring ubuntu or linux a failure because you had a problem is pretty stupid.11:42
ugadappermuis: yes, they are rather robust. I've been running one for the last 3 years...almost 24h/7d, non stop11:42
ugajhutchins: I didn't say that11:43
dappermuisnice11:43
jhutchinsuga: Sure sounded like it to me.11:43
ugajhutchins: I only said there's a known solution and I find it pretty silly that it's not being fixed11:43
dappermuisanyone ever used the OO.o solver tool?11:43
jhutchinsuga: You said you couldn't recommend it and that everybody was using xP instead of linux - which we're obviously not.11:43
ScorpKinguga: check the IDE and SATA settings in the BIOS. play around with them and see what work.11:43
jhutchinsuga: That's what faq's and wiki's are for.11:43
dappermuisScorpKing :)11:43
ugajhutchins: I Said I couldn't recommend it on new boxes anymore, as I used to do11:43
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ScorpKinghiya dappermuis! :)11:44
jhutchinsuga: This is why you are not a journalist with a wide reputation.11:44
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dappermuisScorpKing, you enjoying the summer weather?11:44
ugajhutchins: nor I wanted to11:44
jhutchinsover-generalization.11:44
ugajournalists just write about what they used in the last 5 minutes on their old unused boxes11:44
jhutchinsYes, of course they do.11:45
ScorpKingdappermuis: it's great! one week in a row. it's warm enough to swim now :)11:45
ugajhutchins: I'm writing about what I had to do in the last 2 whole days, and knowing exactly what I was doing11:45
jhutchinsSorry, I'll stop baiting the troll.11:45
dappermuisScorpKing, yes! i was even thinking of going to the beach today!11:45
dappermuislol jhutchins11:45
ugajhutchins: troll? =)11:45
ugaI thought I was a linux supporter and coder ;)11:46
ScorpKingdappermuis: the water is to cold in CT for me. lol11:46
dappermuisScorpKing, lol11:46
ugajhutchins: btw, I requested yesterday somebody to add the issue to the FAQ, and I even contacted devs11:47
ugaso no idea what FAQs are for, other than telling people how to use nvidia11:47
ScorpKinganyone here know something about gimp batch scripts?11:47
ugaand btw, nvidia faqs dont' explain how to install nvidia drivers when there's no monitor11:47
dappermuisi wonder why people have so many problems setting up nvidia cards?11:47
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dappermuisi'd never done it before and i set one up using the nvidia driver in about 2 mins without problems11:48
ugadappermuis: the main problem, at least for me, isnt' gfx card support. nv does mostly fine. Although somehow kubuntu chose vesa for mine11:48
ugaI believe the problems come when your monitor doesn't support vesa modes11:48
ugaie, those lcd monitors that got only a couple possible resolutions11:48
geniiuga: Incidentally my p5kse board came with linux source code for the sata/ide controller (it was on the system board cdrom)11:48
uga791 does mostly11:49
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dappermuisurgh, i've got a report to write11:49
dappermuisbbl11:49
ugagenii: really? that's the one I have. The se.. and... what am I meant to do. Build from source code to install? =))11:49
ugaI didn't bother checkign the CDs btw, thanks for the info11:49
ugagenii: btw, did you run into similar trouble?11:50
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geniiuga: I first set mine up with controller in bios to be in compatible mode. then I booted to livecd, installed some essentials, compiled, saved to floppy. then I insmod the file from floppy during install from alternate.11:50
ScorpKinganyway, here is the gimp script i want to run but i don't think it will work. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37949/11:50
ugagenii: uhm.. I didn't see any IDE compatibility modes :/11:51
ScorpKinguga: i think it's under one of the SATA options11:51
ugagenii: anyway, nice to know there are other solutions11:51
ugaI'll check next time I reboot11:52
geniiuga: The other trouble i had was with stalling due to pcmcia trying to load i83265.ko11:52
ugaoh, nothing like that here11:52
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ugauhm... now that I remember.. I have to reboot to locate the old ide drive ..,11:53
ubuntuhow do i change my resolution higher than 640 x 480 if thats as high as it will go in system ettings11:53
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ScorpKinguga: in the BIOS. Main --> IDE Configuration --> Onboard IDE Operate Mode11:54
ugaas it's only got one IDE interface... would you suggest having the disk or the dvd drive, as master?11:54
ugaScorpKing: thanks11:54
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geniiuga i normally put them in cable select with hd on end of cable. hd fails, cd becomes master.11:54
ugagenii: okay, thanks11:55
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geniiuga: np11:56
ugabrb. Rebooting11:56
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geniiubuntu: you edit with admin privelege the xorg.conf file and add in some higher resolution combinations under the default depth area.11:59
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NickPrestaGreetings #kubuntu12:00
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geniiubuntu: If your default depth is set to 24, look for a line with: Depth 24 and under similar to this: Modes           "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"               where you add in another resolution in the same way you see there. Save the file, logout, restart the login manager by ctrl-alt-backspace, login again12:02
jhutchinsubuntu: You might need to install a different driver for your video card to get full resolution.12:02
jhutchinsubuntu: Do you know what card you have?12:02
ubuntujhutchins:  i could find out12:02
geniijhutchins: Good point, also he may be using something like vesa12:03
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ubuntuill do what genii said first then that12:03
jhutchins640x480 sounds like it.12:03
geniiubuntu: First, make a backup of that file12:03
geniiubuntu: then you have something usable to revert to in case it does not work12:04
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damianhey guys i'm having trouble getting root priveledges in my account12:04
damiancan anyone help me out?12:04
ubuntugenii: ok but im new at this, so i just searches xorg.conf and got 4 of them, where do i find this at?12:04
NickPrestadamian, can you explain in greater detail what the problem seems to be?12:04
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NickPresta!root | damian12:04
ubotudamian: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo12:04
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tekstacy'lo all12:05
geniiubuntu: The one we need is /etc/X11/xorg.conf    but as i stressed, make a backup first of it.12:05
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Doctor_Nickyay12:05
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geniiubuntu: eg, in konsole: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back12:06
tekstacyI enabled password-less login, x is screwed up. Ho do I login to console without it trying to start x12:06
tekstacy?12:06
geniiubuntu: then if you get stuck in text mode, you can do reverse the names but otherwise same command to revert the file.12:06
ubuntuk12:07
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geniiubuntu: also if stuck in text ,after revrting the backup file do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:08
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tekstacyis there a way to login to the command line and re-install x-org drivers?12:09
tekstacyI don't want to re-install everything if I don't have to12:10
geniitekstacy: you can reconfigure the xorg server12:10
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NickPrestatekstacy, to get to a console, hit control+alt+F1 (F1 through F6 should work). Then run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`12:10
tekstacyI can't get into the system, it starts up, then it goes blank12:10
tekstacyNickPresta, THANK you thank you12:11
geniitekstacy: If you know the answers to most of the questions about what driver and resolutions etc, you can do: sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg          this will work even from Recovery mode. If you do this in recovery mode from text, do after    telinit 2    to start regular operation after12:11
NickPrestatekstacy, no problem. I would hate to see someone reinstall their whole system just because of a display problem :)12:12
geniitekstacy: Sorry, NickPresta had right, dpkg-reconfigure       rather :) But otherwise else there holds12:12
tekstacygeni, THANK you!12:12
tekstacywhew, my life was looking pretty bleak for a moment...12:13
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tekstacycrap12:16
tekstacyit says package xserver.org is not installed12:16
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ugaheh, I ended up removing the DVD drive12:17
tekstacyisn't that something I need to run the window manager?12:17
ugathe IDE cable won't reach to both the disk and dvd12:17
ugaI think I'll end up buying some new sata dvdrw12:17
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tekstacyoh, nevermind, stupid spelling error....DOH12:19
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Soulwarphi kubuntu buddies =)12:20
ScorpKinghelo12:20
tekstacywhat do you add to CL display output one page at a time12:21
rrbizhello12:21
tekstacyer, "to display...12:21
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stdintekstacy: use   command | less     or    command | more12:22
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tekstacythanks12:22
uga_heh... never unplug the ups in teh way I did ;)12:22
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rrbizin gnome it shows the status of my UPS, in KDE it doesn't12:23
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tekstacyok, dpkg -reconfigure didn't work, it says conflicting opperators12:25
NickPrestatekstacy, no space12:25
NickPresta`dpkg-reconfigure`12:25
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tekstacyoic, cool, thanks12:25
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waylandbillrrbiz: I would think that APC notification on the desktop is an odd issue. It seems like a server issue really.12:27
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rrbizwaylandbill: if kpowersave would recognize it i can set this box to shutdown or hibernate12:28
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tekstacyI can see!!12:31
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NickPrestatekstacy, I'm glad. :)12:31
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BluesKaj!botsnack NickPresta & genii12:31
tekstacy_cool, now I'm not tethered to that stupid desk12:32
BluesKaj!botsnack | NickPresta & genii12:32
ubotuNickPresta & genii: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!12:32
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BluesKajoops, wrong one12:32
dappermuishaha, yum12:32
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BluesKaj!cookie | NickPresta & genii12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:33
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BluesKajdumb unco-operative bot12:33
geniiBluesKaj: Heh12:33
tekstacyso, us new people bug you about stuff like that untill we learn enough that people start to bug us?  :)12:34
tekstacythe circle of life12:34
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BluesKajyup, that's about it12:34
BluesKajI never stop learning new stuff here , tho12:35
tekstacyI'll prob spend an hour or so learning about the commands I was told to use....   :)12:36
tekstacySort of like it, reminds me of when I was a kid just getting into these things.12:37
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Ch1ppyhey, I'm having trouble renewing my DHCP lease, can anyone help me out?12:38
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