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BlkGhost:)12:46
BlkGhostsits down12:46
jribhi12:46
jrib!fstab12:46
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions12:46
jribbut there isn't any real nice docs so I'll explain what you have to do basically12:46
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jribyou need to create a mount point first12:47
BlkGhostk12:47
jribso: sudo mkdir /media/my_stuff12:47
jribcall it whatever you want instead of "my_stuff"12:47
rocunrealJust want you to know jrib i got my problem fixxed ;) you guys are the best at Ubuntu Offical Support12:47
BlkGhostdone12:47
jribrocunreal: great12:47
jribBlkGhost: you want this to get mounted everytime you boot, correct?12:48
BlkGhostyeah12:48
jribso open up your fstab in a text editor: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab12:48
BlkGhostk12:48
jribthere's some uuid stuff you can use if you plan on moving your hard drive around, do you need that?12:49
BlkGhostnope12:49
jribk, what's the block device for your partition?  /dev/foo?12:49
BlkGhost/dev/sdb112:49
jribso in that text file, you're going to make a new line at the bottom and add:12:50
jrib/dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 012:50
jriboh sorry, that's wrong12:50
jrib/dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 212:50
jribchange "my_stuff" appropriately12:51
BlkGhostk12:51
jribsave it12:51
BlkGhostdone12:51
jribrun 'sudo mount -a'12:51
BlkGhostk12:51
jribwhen you type 'mount' you should now see /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/my_stuff12:52
BlkGhostyeah12:52
jribok, that's it, now you can use /media/my_stuff12:52
jribyou probably want to setup permissions so your user can access it, see:12:52
jrib!permissions12:53
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux12:53
jrib(the second link)12:53
BlkGhostWhy can't I see it on My computer >12:53
jribdon't know how that's decided12:53
jribtry hitting "reload" maybe12:53
BlkGhostso if I reboot12:55
BlkGhostIT should probley appear and be able to read and write to it ???12:55
jribdon't know; no12:55
BlkGhostxcopy12:55
jribyou need to setup the permissions first12:55
jribit will show up in /media/my_stuff from now on though with regards to your first question12:56
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rocunrealjrib you here man?12:58
jribrocunreal: hi12:58
rocunrealwhat was that fonts directory again?12:58
rocunreal::fonts::?12:58
jribtype 'fonts://'12:58
BlkGhostall I want is myself to be able to read and write12:58
rocunrealo thanks sorry about it12:58
jribBlkGhost: are there any files in /media/my_stuff now?12:59
rocunrealIm gonna save it in a text file this time so i wont forget :)12:59
jribrocunreal: no problem12:59
rocunrealpeace12:59
BlkGhostjrib01:01
jribBlkGhost:01:01
BlkGhostjrib I can't copy to it01:02
jribk, are there any files currently in it?01:02
BlkGhostOK fixed it01:03
BlkGhostI had to hit it01:03
jribeh?01:03
BlkGhostand poof it worked01:03
jriberm ok01:03
BlkGhostyeah I kicked the computer01:03
BlkGhostno bs01:03
BlkGhostITs dented and it works01:03
BlkGhostwahooo01:03
jribhmm, you chown to your user?01:04
BlkGhostno ..01:04
BlkGhostshoud I01:04
BlkGhost?01:04
BlkGhostShould I ?01:04
jribso what is 'ls -ld /media/my_stuff' returning?01:04
BlkGhostdrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem201:05
jribyou shouldn't be able to write to it01:05
jribif you want your user to own it, you would do: sudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem201:05
BlkGhostwell what doI do the chrown it01:05
jribdon't replace USER, it will be automatically replaced01:06
BlkGhostdo I need the $01:06
jribyes01:06
BlkGhostsudo chmod $user: /media/Filesystem201:07
BlkGhostchmod: invalid mode: `:'01:07
jriblinux is case-sensitive; "USER" is not the same as "user"01:07
BlkGhostsudo chmod $USER: /media/Filesystem201:08
BlkGhostchmod: invalid mode: `root:'01:08
jriberm01:08
jribtwo things01:08
jrib1. open a terminal as your user, so you are not root01:09
jrib2. "chown" instead of "chmod"01:09
BlkGhostk01:09
BlkGhoststill invalid mode ghost01:10
jribdid you use "chown" instead of "chmod"?01:10
BlkGhostyeah01:10
BlkGhostok01:10
jribcan you paste what you typed and the output you got?01:10
BlkGhostnow it says the users name01:11
jribwhat says the user's name/01:11
BlkGhostdrwxr-xr-x 3 george root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem201:12
jribyou forgot the :01:12
jribsudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem201:12
BlkGhostno its there01:13
jribok, do: sudo chgrp $USER /media/Filesystem201:13
BlkGhostnow it has george george01:14
jribyou should be all set then01:15
BlkGhostthankyou very very very much01:15
BlkGhosttime to reboot for a test :/01:15
jribk01:15
BlkGhostyou kick ass thanks again01:16
jribyou don't need to reboot though01:16
BlkGhost???/01:16
jribyou can just use it now01:16
jribmight have to hit "reload" in nautilus01:16
BlkGhostI can't see it in my places list01:16
jriboh01:16
jribwell if it doesn't show up, you can add /media/Filesystem2 as a bookmark in nautilus and then it will be in your Places menu01:17
BlkGhostyeah that worked01:18
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GreyWolfeYou wouldn't happen to be around, would you Jordan_U?08:06
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, nope08:06
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Still can't boot?08:07
GreyWolfenope08:07
GreyWolfeWell, SGD kinda work08:07
GreyWolfes08:07
GreyWolfeit will boot into my recovery console, but then claims that ntloader.exe is missing. I am wondering if my boot.ini is pointing to the right place.08:08
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Jordan_UGreyWolfe, You would have to ask about that in ##windows, Ubuntu does not boot from SGD ?08:10
GreyWolfeNope, I still get error 1808:11
GreyWolfeWhich after thorough investigation in #GRUB should definately not be happening08:11
GreyWolfeAnd the problem I am having with fixing boot.ini is that I don't know how to access it. I know what it should actually look like08:11
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GreyWolfewell, isn't ##windows a helpful channel08:17
GreyWolfeok, another question, can i still access my windows HD from the live cd and copy some files i want to save?08:20
GreyWolfei tried doing gksudo nautilus /dev/sda which should direct to that HD, correct?08:21
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, No08:23
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, You point it to the mountpoint, not the drive itself, /dev/sda represents a connection to a piece of harware, not the mounted filesystem08:25
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, But you shouldn't need to use gksudo anyways08:25
GreyWolfeahh08:25
GreyWolfewell, another problem seems to have arisen anyways, GParted doesnt recognise the partition type of my windows drive, so i assume that nothing is going to be read from there anyways08:26
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, What does "sudo fdisk -l" show?08:27
GreyWolfe   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System08:27
GreyWolfe/dev/sda1   *           1       23215   186474456   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS08:27
GreyWolfe/dev/sda2           23217       24321     8875912+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)08:27
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, So fdisk sees it as NTFS just fine08:28
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Do you see it in Places -> Computer ?08:28
GreyWolfenope08:29
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Try installing the package ntfs-config08:30
GreyWolfeinstalling now08:31
GreyWolfeok, installed, now what?08:32
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS Configuration Tool08:33
GreyWolfeok08:33
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Enable write for internal ( and external if you want ) NTFS partitions08:34
GreyWolfei dont have the option to write for internal, it is greyed out08:34
Jordan_Ustrange08:35
GreyWolfemhmm08:35
Jordan_UI doubt it but maybe everything is considered "external" when running from the LiveCD?08:36
GreyWolfethats possible08:36
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Enable external write support and see if the partition shows up in Places -> Computer08:37
GreyWolfenot showing08:37
GreyWolfei mean, there really isnt anything super important there, just some code i had written for a game, but i can replace that08:38
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Ok, we'll mount it manually08:38
GreyWolfeok08:39
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, run "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows"08:39
GreyWolfeNTFS signature is missing.08:40
GreyWolfeFailed to startup volume: Invalid argument08:40
GreyWolfeFailed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument08:40
GreyWolfeThe device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.08:40
GreyWolfeMaybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a08:40
GreyWolfepartition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?08:40
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, That doesn't sound good08:41
GreyWolfeNot at all08:41
GreyWolfethink formatting it and trying to run windows recovery would work better?08:41
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, I don't know, but ifyour NTFS partition is toast that would explain why ntloader can't be fount08:42
GreyWolfeyea08:42
Jordan_U*found08:42
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Are you sure the drive isn't bad?08:44
GreyWolfethe drive should be fine08:46
GreyWolfei ran the diagnostics on the windows recovery thing and it passed everything with flying colours08:46
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, Hard drive diagnostics or general hardware diagnostics?08:47
GreyWolfeboth i think08:48
GreyWolfehttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk08:48
GreyWolfeguy in #windows said to try that08:48
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, I don't think that testdisk does hardware diagnostics08:53
GreyWolfeahh08:54
GreyWolfewell, since it seems the drive is toast anyways, im going to format that partition and attempt to run windows recovery08:54
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, I never said the drive was toast08:55
GreyWolfeok08:55
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, I just said that it was a possibility08:55
GreyWolfeahh ok08:56
GreyWolfewell, i really have to leave for now, my gf is going to kill me if im not at her house soon08:58
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, I'm going to sleep, good luck08:59
GreyWolfethanks, enjoy the sleep08:59
GreyWolfeand thanks for all the help08:59
Jordan_UGreyWolfe, No problem08:59
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