=== zween [n=zween@79-66-91-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-68-177.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === BlkGhost [n=Ghost@142.179.102.125] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:46] :) [12:46] sits down [12:46] hi [12:46] !fstab [12:46] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [12:46] but there isn't any real nice docs so I'll explain what you have to do basically === rocunreal [n=rocunrea@72.171.15.125] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:47] you need to create a mount point first [12:47] k [12:47] so: sudo mkdir /media/my_stuff [12:47] call it whatever you want instead of "my_stuff" [12:47] Just want you to know jrib i got my problem fixxed ;) you guys are the best at Ubuntu Offical Support [12:47] done [12:47] rocunreal: great [12:48] BlkGhost: you want this to get mounted everytime you boot, correct? [12:48] yeah [12:48] so open up your fstab in a text editor: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab [12:48] k [12:49] there's some uuid stuff you can use if you plan on moving your hard drive around, do you need that? [12:49] nope [12:49] k, what's the block device for your partition? /dev/foo? [12:49] /dev/sdb1 [12:50] so in that text file, you're going to make a new line at the bottom and add: [12:50] /dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 0 [12:50] oh sorry, that's wrong [12:50] /dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 2 [12:51] change "my_stuff" appropriately [12:51] k [12:51] save it [12:51] done [12:51] run 'sudo mount -a' [12:51] k [12:52] when you type 'mount' you should now see /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/my_stuff [12:52] yeah [12:52] ok, that's it, now you can use /media/my_stuff [12:52] you probably want to setup permissions so your user can access it, see: [12:53] !permissions [12:53] The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux [12:53] (the second link) [12:53] Why can't I see it on My computer > [12:53] don't know how that's decided [12:53] try hitting "reload" maybe [12:55] so if I reboot [12:55] IT should probley appear and be able to read and write to it ??? [12:55] don't know; no [12:55] xcopy [12:55] you need to setup the permissions first [12:56] it will show up in /media/my_stuff from now on though with regards to your first question === rocunreal [n=rocunrea@72.171.15.125] has joined #Ubuntu-Classroom [12:58] jrib you here man? [12:58] rocunreal: hi [12:58] what was that fonts directory again? [12:58] ::fonts::? [12:58] type 'fonts://' [12:58] all I want is myself to be able to read and write [12:58] o thanks sorry about it [12:59] BlkGhost: are there any files in /media/my_stuff now? [12:59] Im gonna save it in a text file this time so i wont forget :) [12:59] rocunreal: no problem [12:59] peace [01:01] jrib [01:01] BlkGhost: [01:02] jrib I can't copy to it [01:02] k, are there any files currently in it? [01:03] OK fixed it [01:03] I had to hit it [01:03] eh? [01:03] and poof it worked [01:03] erm ok [01:03] yeah I kicked the computer [01:03] no bs [01:03] ITs dented and it works [01:03] wahooo [01:04] hmm, you chown to your user? [01:04] no .. [01:04] shoud I [01:04] ? [01:04] Should I ? [01:04] so what is 'ls -ld /media/my_stuff' returning? [01:05] drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem2 [01:05] you shouldn't be able to write to it [01:05] if you want your user to own it, you would do: sudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem2 [01:05] well what doI do the chrown it [01:06] don't replace USER, it will be automatically replaced [01:06] do I need the $ [01:06] yes [01:07] sudo chmod $user: /media/Filesystem2 [01:07] chmod: invalid mode: `:' [01:07] linux is case-sensitive; "USER" is not the same as "user" [01:08] sudo chmod $USER: /media/Filesystem2 [01:08] chmod: invalid mode: `root:' [01:08] erm [01:08] two things [01:09] 1. open a terminal as your user, so you are not root [01:09] 2. "chown" instead of "chmod" [01:09] k [01:10] still invalid mode ghost [01:10] did you use "chown" instead of "chmod"? [01:10] yeah [01:10] ok [01:10] can you paste what you typed and the output you got? [01:11] now it says the users name [01:11] what says the user's name/ [01:12] drwxr-xr-x 3 george root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem2 [01:12] you forgot the : [01:12] sudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem2 [01:13] no its there [01:13] ok, do: sudo chgrp $USER /media/Filesystem2 [01:14] now it has george george [01:15] you should be all set then [01:15] thankyou very very very much [01:15] time to reboot for a test :/ [01:15] k [01:16] you kick ass thanks again [01:16] you don't need to reboot though [01:16] ???/ [01:16] you can just use it now [01:16] might have to hit "reload" in nautilus [01:16] I can't see it in my places list [01:16] oh [01:17] well if it doesn't show up, you can add /media/Filesystem2 as a bookmark in nautilus and then it will be in your Places menu [01:18] yeah that worked === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-68-177.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-60-15.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === iPodan24 [i=Apple@gateway/tor/x-36806bac67375643] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === illusion-1 [n=illusion@41.226.228.177] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PupUs [n=PupUs@S01060014bf0b65a8.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PupUs [n=PupUs@S01060014bf0b65a8.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Crusher [n=You@ppp121-45-60-15.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups_ [n=buttercu@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === buttercups [n=buttercu@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === GreyWolfe [n=ubuntu@bas2-kitchener06-1096747929.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:06] You wouldn't happen to be around, would you Jordan_U? [08:06] GreyWolfe, nope [08:07] GreyWolfe, Still can't boot? [08:07] nope [08:07] Well, SGD kinda work [08:07] s [08:08] it will boot into my recovery console, but then claims that ntloader.exe is missing. I am wondering if my boot.ini is pointing to the right place. === buttercups [n=buttercu@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:10] GreyWolfe, You would have to ask about that in ##windows, Ubuntu does not boot from SGD ? [08:11] Nope, I still get error 18 [08:11] Which after thorough investigation in #GRUB should definately not be happening [08:11] And the problem I am having with fixing boot.ini is that I don't know how to access it. I know what it should actually look like === buttercups_ [n=buttercu@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [08:17] well, isn't ##windows a helpful channel [08:20] ok, another question, can i still access my windows HD from the live cd and copy some files i want to save? [08:21] i tried doing gksudo nautilus /dev/sda which should direct to that HD, correct? [08:23] GreyWolfe, No [08:25] GreyWolfe, You point it to the mountpoint, not the drive itself, /dev/sda represents a connection to a piece of harware, not the mounted filesystem [08:25] GreyWolfe, But you shouldn't need to use gksudo anyways [08:25] ahh [08:26] well, another problem seems to have arisen anyways, GParted doesnt recognise the partition type of my windows drive, so i assume that nothing is going to be read from there anyways [08:27] GreyWolfe, What does "sudo fdisk -l" show? [08:27] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [08:27] /dev/sda1 * 1 23215 186474456 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS [08:27] /dev/sda2 23217 24321 8875912+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [08:28] GreyWolfe, So fdisk sees it as NTFS just fine [08:28] GreyWolfe, Do you see it in Places -> Computer ? [08:29] nope [08:30] GreyWolfe, Try installing the package ntfs-config [08:31] installing now [08:32] ok, installed, now what? [08:33] GreyWolfe, Go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS Configuration Tool [08:33] ok [08:34] GreyWolfe, Enable write for internal ( and external if you want ) NTFS partitions [08:34] i dont have the option to write for internal, it is greyed out [08:35] strange [08:35] mhmm [08:36] I doubt it but maybe everything is considered "external" when running from the LiveCD? [08:36] thats possible [08:37] GreyWolfe, Enable external write support and see if the partition shows up in Places -> Computer [08:37] not showing [08:38] i mean, there really isnt anything super important there, just some code i had written for a game, but i can replace that [08:38] GreyWolfe, Ok, we'll mount it manually [08:39] ok [08:39] GreyWolfe, run "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows" [08:40] NTFS signature is missing. [08:40] Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument [08:40] Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument [08:40] The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS. [08:40] Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a [08:40] partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around? [08:41] GreyWolfe, That doesn't sound good [08:41] Not at all [08:41] think formatting it and trying to run windows recovery would work better? [08:42] GreyWolfe, I don't know, but ifyour NTFS partition is toast that would explain why ntloader can't be fount [08:42] yea [08:42] *found [08:44] GreyWolfe, Are you sure the drive isn't bad? [08:46] the drive should be fine [08:46] i ran the diagnostics on the windows recovery thing and it passed everything with flying colours [08:47] GreyWolfe, Hard drive diagnostics or general hardware diagnostics? [08:48] both i think [08:48] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk [08:48] guy in #windows said to try that [08:53] GreyWolfe, I don't think that testdisk does hardware diagnostics [08:54] ahh [08:54] well, since it seems the drive is toast anyways, im going to format that partition and attempt to run windows recovery [08:55] GreyWolfe, I never said the drive was toast [08:55] ok [08:55] GreyWolfe, I just said that it was a possibility [08:56] ahh ok [08:58] well, i really have to leave for now, my gf is going to kill me if im not at her house soon [08:59] GreyWolfe, I'm going to sleep, good luck [08:59] thanks, enjoy the sleep [08:59] and thanks for all the help [08:59] GreyWolfe, No problem === GreyWolfe [n=ubuntu@bas2-kitchener06-1096747929.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === needle [n=nevle@cust2347.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp39-27.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zween [n=zween@79-66-91-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp39-27.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === zween [n=zween@79-66-91-194.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zween [n=zween@79-66-30-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Susana_ [n=Susana@bl6-21-232.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === CyD_ [n=CyD@cable-195-162-210-39.upc.chello.be] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pleia2 [n=lyz@ubuntu/member/pleia2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Mamarok [n=myriam_r@83.222.147.62] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === pleia2 [n=lyz@ubuntu/member/pleia2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === iPodan [i=Apple@gateway/tor/x-8dca0d9572debcf4] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dgjones [n=Cheshire@unaffiliated/dgjones] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === dgjones [n=Cheshire@unaffiliated/dgjones] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === pleia2 [n=lyz@ubuntu/member/pleia2] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zween [n=zween@79-66-30-55.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom