[12:46] <BlkGhost> :)
[12:46] <BlkGhost> sits down
[12:46] <jrib> hi
[12:46] <jrib> !fstab
[12:46] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:46] <jrib> but there isn't any real nice docs so I'll explain what you have to do basically
[12:47] <jrib> you need to create a mount point first
[12:47] <BlkGhost> k
[12:47] <jrib> so: sudo mkdir /media/my_stuff
[12:47] <jrib> call it whatever you want instead of "my_stuff"
[12:47] <rocunreal> Just want you to know jrib i got my problem fixxed ;) you guys are the best at Ubuntu Offical Support
[12:47] <BlkGhost> done
[12:47] <jrib> rocunreal: great
[12:48] <jrib> BlkGhost: you want this to get mounted everytime you boot, correct?
[12:48] <BlkGhost> yeah
[12:48] <jrib> so open up your fstab in a text editor: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:48] <BlkGhost> k
[12:49] <jrib> there's some uuid stuff you can use if you plan on moving your hard drive around, do you need that?
[12:49] <BlkGhost> nope
[12:49] <jrib> k, what's the block device for your partition?  /dev/foo?
[12:49] <BlkGhost> /dev/sdb1
[12:50] <jrib> so in that text file, you're going to make a new line at the bottom and add:
[12:50] <jrib> /dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 0
[12:50] <jrib> oh sorry, that's wrong
[12:50] <jrib> /dev/sdb1 /media/my_stuff ext3 defaults 0 2
[12:51] <jrib> change "my_stuff" appropriately
[12:51] <BlkGhost> k
[12:51] <jrib> save it
[12:51] <BlkGhost> done
[12:51] <jrib> run 'sudo mount -a'
[12:51] <BlkGhost> k
[12:52] <jrib> when you type 'mount' you should now see /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/my_stuff
[12:52] <BlkGhost> yeah
[12:52] <jrib> ok, that's it, now you can use /media/my_stuff
[12:52] <jrib> you probably want to setup permissions so your user can access it, see:
[12:53] <jrib> !permissions
[12:53] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:53] <jrib> (the second link)
[12:53] <BlkGhost> Why can't I see it on My computer >
[12:53] <jrib> don't know how that's decided
[12:53] <jrib> try hitting "reload" maybe
[12:55] <BlkGhost> so if I reboot
[12:55] <BlkGhost> IT should probley appear and be able to read and write to it ???
[12:55] <jrib> don't know; no
[12:55] <BlkGhost> xcopy
[12:55] <jrib> you need to setup the permissions first
[12:56] <jrib> it will show up in /media/my_stuff from now on though with regards to your first question
[12:58] <rocunreal> jrib you here man?
[12:58] <jrib> rocunreal: hi
[12:58] <rocunreal> what was that fonts directory again?
[12:58] <rocunreal> ::fonts::?
[12:58] <jrib> type 'fonts://'
[12:58] <BlkGhost> all I want is myself to be able to read and write
[12:58] <rocunreal> o thanks sorry about it
[12:59] <jrib> BlkGhost: are there any files in /media/my_stuff now?
[12:59] <rocunreal> Im gonna save it in a text file this time so i wont forget :)
[12:59] <jrib> rocunreal: no problem
[12:59] <rocunreal> peace
[01:01] <BlkGhost> jrib
[01:01] <jrib> BlkGhost:
[01:02] <BlkGhost> jrib I can't copy to it
[01:02] <jrib> k, are there any files currently in it?
[01:03] <BlkGhost> OK fixed it
[01:03] <BlkGhost> I had to hit it
[01:03] <jrib> eh?
[01:03] <BlkGhost> and poof it worked
[01:03] <jrib> erm ok
[01:03] <BlkGhost> yeah I kicked the computer
[01:03] <BlkGhost> no bs
[01:03] <BlkGhost> ITs dented and it works
[01:03] <BlkGhost> wahooo
[01:04] <jrib> hmm, you chown to your user?
[01:04] <BlkGhost> no ..
[01:04] <BlkGhost> shoud I
[01:04] <BlkGhost> ?
[01:04] <BlkGhost> Should I ?
[01:04] <jrib> so what is 'ls -ld /media/my_stuff' returning?
[01:05] <BlkGhost> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem2
[01:05] <jrib> you shouldn't be able to write to it
[01:05] <jrib> if you want your user to own it, you would do: sudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem2
[01:05] <BlkGhost> well what doI do the chrown it
[01:06] <jrib> don't replace USER, it will be automatically replaced
[01:06] <BlkGhost> do I need the $
[01:06] <jrib> yes
[01:07] <BlkGhost> sudo chmod $user: /media/Filesystem2
[01:07] <BlkGhost> chmod: invalid mode: `:'
[01:07] <jrib> linux is case-sensitive; "USER" is not the same as "user"
[01:08] <BlkGhost> sudo chmod $USER: /media/Filesystem2
[01:08] <BlkGhost> chmod: invalid mode: `root:'
[01:08] <jrib> erm
[01:08] <jrib> two things
[01:09] <jrib> 1. open a terminal as your user, so you are not root
[01:09] <jrib> 2. "chown" instead of "chmod"
[01:09] <BlkGhost> k
[01:10] <BlkGhost> still invalid mode ghost
[01:10] <jrib> did you use "chown" instead of "chmod"?
[01:10] <BlkGhost> yeah
[01:10] <BlkGhost> ok
[01:10] <jrib> can you paste what you typed and the output you got?
[01:11] <BlkGhost> now it says the users name
[01:11] <jrib> what says the user's name/
[01:12] <BlkGhost> drwxr-xr-x 3 george root 4096 2007-09-18 16:02 /media/Filesystem2
[01:12] <jrib> you forgot the :
[01:12] <jrib> sudo chown $USER: /media/Filesystem2
[01:13] <BlkGhost> no its there
[01:13] <jrib> ok, do: sudo chgrp $USER /media/Filesystem2
[01:14] <BlkGhost> now it has george george
[01:15] <jrib> you should be all set then
[01:15] <BlkGhost> thankyou very very very much
[01:15] <BlkGhost> time to reboot for a test :/
[01:15] <jrib> k
[01:16] <BlkGhost> you kick ass thanks again
[01:16] <jrib> you don't need to reboot though
[01:16] <BlkGhost> ???/
[01:16] <jrib> you can just use it now
[01:16] <jrib> might have to hit "reload" in nautilus
[01:16] <BlkGhost> I can't see it in my places list
[01:16] <jrib> oh
[01:17] <jrib> well if it doesn't show up, you can add /media/Filesystem2 as a bookmark in nautilus and then it will be in your Places menu
[01:18] <BlkGhost> yeah that worked
[08:06] <GreyWolfe> You wouldn't happen to be around, would you Jordan_U?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, nope
[08:07] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Still can't boot?
[08:07] <GreyWolfe> nope
[08:07] <GreyWolfe> Well, SGD kinda work
[08:07] <GreyWolfe> s
[08:08] <GreyWolfe> it will boot into my recovery console, but then claims that ntloader.exe is missing. I am wondering if my boot.ini is pointing to the right place.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, You would have to ask about that in ##windows, Ubuntu does not boot from SGD ?
[08:11] <GreyWolfe> Nope, I still get error 18
[08:11] <GreyWolfe> Which after thorough investigation in #GRUB should definately not be happening
[08:11] <GreyWolfe> And the problem I am having with fixing boot.ini is that I don't know how to access it. I know what it should actually look like
[08:17] <GreyWolfe> well, isn't ##windows a helpful channel
[08:20] <GreyWolfe> ok, another question, can i still access my windows HD from the live cd and copy some files i want to save?
[08:21] <GreyWolfe> i tried doing gksudo nautilus /dev/sda which should direct to that HD, correct?
[08:23] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, No
[08:25] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, You point it to the mountpoint, not the drive itself, /dev/sda represents a connection to a piece of harware, not the mounted filesystem
[08:25] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, But you shouldn't need to use gksudo anyways
[08:25] <GreyWolfe> ahh
[08:26] <GreyWolfe> well, another problem seems to have arisen anyways, GParted doesnt recognise the partition type of my windows drive, so i assume that nothing is going to be read from there anyways
[08:27] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, What does "sudo fdisk -l" show?
[08:27] <GreyWolfe>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:27] <GreyWolfe> /dev/sda1   *           1       23215   186474456   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
[08:27] <GreyWolfe> /dev/sda2           23217       24321     8875912+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[08:28] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, So fdisk sees it as NTFS just fine
[08:28] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Do you see it in Places -> Computer ?
[08:29] <GreyWolfe> nope
[08:30] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Try installing the package ntfs-config
[08:31] <GreyWolfe> installing now
[08:32] <GreyWolfe> ok, installed, now what?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS Configuration Tool
[08:33] <GreyWolfe> ok
[08:34] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Enable write for internal ( and external if you want ) NTFS partitions
[08:34] <GreyWolfe> i dont have the option to write for internal, it is greyed out
[08:35] <Jordan_U> strange
[08:35] <GreyWolfe> mhmm
[08:36] <Jordan_U> I doubt it but maybe everything is considered "external" when running from the LiveCD?
[08:36] <GreyWolfe> thats possible
[08:37] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Enable external write support and see if the partition shows up in Places -> Computer
[08:37] <GreyWolfe> not showing
[08:38] <GreyWolfe> i mean, there really isnt anything super important there, just some code i had written for a game, but i can replace that
[08:38] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Ok, we'll mount it manually
[08:39] <GreyWolfe> ok
[08:39] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, run "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows"
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> NTFS signature is missing.
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Invalid argument
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> The device '/dev/sda1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[08:40] <GreyWolfe> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, That doesn't sound good
[08:41] <GreyWolfe> Not at all
[08:41] <GreyWolfe> think formatting it and trying to run windows recovery would work better?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, I don't know, but ifyour NTFS partition is toast that would explain why ntloader can't be fount
[08:42] <GreyWolfe> yea
[08:42] <Jordan_U> *found
[08:44] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Are you sure the drive isn't bad?
[08:46] <GreyWolfe> the drive should be fine
[08:46] <GreyWolfe> i ran the diagnostics on the windows recovery thing and it passed everything with flying colours
[08:47] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, Hard drive diagnostics or general hardware diagnostics?
[08:48] <GreyWolfe> both i think
[08:48] <GreyWolfe> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[08:48] <GreyWolfe> guy in #windows said to try that
[08:53] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, I don't think that testdisk does hardware diagnostics
[08:54] <GreyWolfe> ahh
[08:54] <GreyWolfe> well, since it seems the drive is toast anyways, im going to format that partition and attempt to run windows recovery
[08:55] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, I never said the drive was toast
[08:55] <GreyWolfe> ok
[08:55] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, I just said that it was a possibility
[08:56] <GreyWolfe> ahh ok
[08:58] <GreyWolfe> well, i really have to leave for now, my gf is going to kill me if im not at her house soon
[08:59] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, I'm going to sleep, good luck
[08:59] <GreyWolfe> thanks, enjoy the sleep
[08:59] <GreyWolfe> and thanks for all the help
[08:59] <Jordan_U> GreyWolfe, No problem