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| flint | highvoltage, Good morning Jonathan from the free republic of Vermont, USA | 01:17 |
| jsgotangco | arrrrr matey | 01:25 |
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| highvoltage | hey flint | 02:00 |
| highvoltage | @schedule | 02:00 |
| === ogra quickly gets some coffee ... 2mins please | ||
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| RichEd | hello edubunteros ... | 02:02 |
| RichEd | we'll kick off with ogra on technical | 02:02 |
| `6og | hi all | 02:02 |
| `6og | ogra may still be cafinating | 02:02 |
| simira | haha, ogra just left for coffee :p | 02:02 |
| simira | he'll brb | 02:03 |
| RichEd | :) no problem | 02:03 |
| === ogra waves | ||
| `6og | 2b | 02:06 |
| `6og | wb | 02:06 |
| `6og | :| | 02:06 |
| RichEd | let's try that again, with coffee: we'll kick off with ogra on technical | 02:07 |
| RichEd | :) | 02:07 |
| ogra | * Where are we in the development cycle: | 02:07 |
| ogra | last deadline was string freeze on 13th | 02:08 |
| ogra | we missed that largely with the edubuntu-docs :/ | 02:08 |
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| ogra | LaserJock wanted to upload it by seems he was out of time ... i'll try to get that in today | 02:08 |
| ogra | * What is the next deadline ? | 02:09 |
| ogra | next deadline is beta freeze which is tomorrow | 02:09 |
| ogra | with the majority of stuff we're ready ... | 02:09 |
| RichEd | yay | 02:10 |
| ogra | there are some ltsp bugs i want to look at and due to the brokenness of the isos i still couldnt test the instaler changes | 02:10 |
| ogra | edubuntu-artwork is just in my hands and i'm making the final changes | 02:10 |
| RichEd | ogra: does jill need to do any more ? | 02:10 |
| RichEd | changes I mean | 02:11 |
| ogra | we shipped an additional icon theme the last releases for the "plain" flavour | 02:11 |
| ogra | RichEd, nope, i think its fine as is | 02:11 |
| ogra | i'm planning to drop that ... i doubt anyone every used it and i'll take care for the icons in the "plain" theme to fall back on something sane | 02:12 |
| ogra | that will save us 10M | 02:12 |
| ogra | moodle was changed a lot by LaserJock and moquist the last weeks and sits in the main inclusion queue for review | 02:12 |
| ogra | its likely we'll have it in the default install this time | 02:13 |
| === RichEd holds thumbs for approva; | ||
| RichEd | *approval | 02:13 |
| highvoltage | lots of people will rejoice for that | 02:13 |
| ogra | well, that was actually already the "* Progress over the last week" topic | 02:14 |
| === ogra was very busy with stuff for the classmate PC as well so didnt do as much on the distro as i wanted | ||
| RichEd | we can actually make a public announcement now on that ... | 02:14 |
| ogra | we discovered one bad bug in ltsp i'd love to solve ... but that will cost us 16M on the cD | 02:15 |
| RichEd | A version of Ubuntu with Education applications is being developed for the Intel Classmate PC | 02:15 |
| RichEd | Intel have looked at a few Linux options, but decided to go with Ubuntu because of customer demand | 02:15 |
| RichEd | So it will be available with Windows / Ubuntu ... those will be the two supported sales options | 02:16 |
| RichEd | --- | 02:16 |
| ogra | since ubunt defaults to use compiz, we should have support for it in ltsp, but due to a missing 16M big library it cant do composite ... | 02:16 |
| `6og | hm... interesting to see | 02:16 |
| `6og | 16*mb* *lib*? | 02:16 |
| ogra | mesa-dir | 02:16 |
| ogra | *err dri | 02:16 |
| ogra | its not on the edubuntu CD | 02:17 |
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| ogra | that would mean we miss a big feature we inherit from ubuntu | 02:17 |
| ogra | but i sadly have no idea where to get 16M from | 02:17 |
| `6og | how much extra grunt does this mean we need on the terminals? | 02:17 |
| ogra | nothing | 02:17 |
| ogra | its not used on the majority of terminals at all | 02:17 |
| `6og | saywah? | 02:17 |
| `6og | oh right | 02:17 |
| `6og | can you explain the compiz by default bit - how 'by default' is it? | 02:18 |
| ogra | you need a compoisite capable device on the client | 02:18 |
| ogra | fully by default | 02:18 |
| ogra | if you install ubuntu its the window manager | 02:18 |
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| ogra | the autodetection falls back to metacity if it doesnt find composite though | 02:19 |
| ogra | i dont think we can ignore such a big feature | 02:19 |
| ogra | but i have no idea what top drop ... and it will affect *all* CDs | 02:20 |
| `6og | what sort of odds are there that it fails to fall back to metacity properly? | 02:20 |
| ogra | very minimal chances | 02:20 |
| `6og | suppose thats as good as it gets in reality ;) | 02:20 |
| ogra | it was on nearly the whole dev cycle already | 02:20 |
| ogra | so there was a good amount of feedback | 02:20 |
| ogra | the feature will be there in any cqase | 02:21 |
| ogra | my prob atm is that openoffice is broken since weeks now and i cant even guess the real CD size | 02:22 |
| ogra | currently they are all about 30M oversized, but i dont know how much of that is openoffices fault and how much is real oversizedness | 02:23 |
| ogra | i'll do my best to get it fixed, but cant promise anything here | 02:24 |
| ogra | well, thats about it ... | 02:24 |
| ogra | any questions anyone ? | 02:24 |
| juliux_ | yes, is the image from today bootable? | 02:25 |
| ogra | no idea | 02:25 |
| juliux_ | ok | 02:25 |
| `6og | how long do bugs keep getting fixed for? | 02:25 |
| === `6og has a recollection of stuff freezing over totally real soon | ||
| ogra | there was a kernel upload ... likely that there is something out of sync | 02:25 |
| juliux_ | ogra, is there an other image i can download for testing? | 02:26 |
| ogra | but i havent tested it at all ... | 02:26 |
| ogra | juliux_, only the ones on cdimage.u.c | 02:26 |
| juliux_ | hm ok | 02:26 |
| ogra | `6og, that totally depends :) | 02:27 |
| ogra | `6og, its a matter of severity and of the size of the fix | 02:27 |
| ogra | samll bugs will still get fixed after beta if the fixes are non intrusive | 02:28 |
| ogra | bigger ones if they are severe enough | 02:28 |
| `6og | :) gotcha | 02:29 |
| ogra | other questions ? | 02:29 |
| ogra | doesnt look like ... | 02:30 |
| ogra | going once | 02:30 |
| RichEd | ogra: what status do I look for in LP to confirm which features look likely to go in ? | 02:30 |
| ogra | RichEd, hmm, we'll need to go over that i set all that were not likely to get in to deferred at feature freeze, but didnt go over the rest yet | 02:31 |
| RichEd | okay ... when you have a chance thanks ... | 02:31 |
| RichEd | that's all | 02:32 |
| ogra | adjourned then :) | 02:33 |
| ogra | thanks everybody | 02:33 |
| RichEd | thanks ogra and others | 02:33 |
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| `6og | adjourned = stopping, or pausing? | 02:36 |
| ogra | stopping | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | ogra! | 02:39 |
| `6og | ok | 02:39 |
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| ogra | Hobbsee, ! | 02:41 |
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| jjesse | @Detroit | 03:42 |
| jjesse | @time Detroit | 03:46 |
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| juliux_ | @schedule detroit | 03:47 |
| juliux_ | jjesse, ;) | 03:47 |
| jjesse | ah thanks juliux_ | 03:47 |
| jjesse | @schedule detroit | 03:47 |
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| soren | That's odd. | 03:50 |
| soren | @schedule America/Detroit | 03:50 |
| soren | ? | 03:50 |
| soren | Ah, it /msg's them :) | 03:51 |
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