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RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-164-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:02] hello edubunteros ... [02:02] we'll kick off with ogra on technical [02:02] <`6og> hi all [02:02] <`6og> ogra may still be cafinating [02:02] haha, ogra just left for coffee :p [02:03] he'll brb [02:03] :) no problem === ogra waves [02:06] <`6og> 2b [02:06] <`6og> wb [02:06] <`6og> :| [02:07] let's try that again, with coffee: we'll kick off with ogra on technical [02:07] :) [02:07] * Where are we in the development cycle: [02:08] last deadline was string freeze on 13th [02:08] we missed that largely with the edubuntu-docs :/ === joojle [n=ca1c2f0b@207.250.49.24] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:08] LaserJock wanted to upload it by seems he was out of time ... i'll try to get that in today [02:09] * What is the next deadline ? [02:09] next deadline is beta freeze which is tomorrow [02:09] with the majority of stuff we're ready ... [02:10] yay [02:10] there are some ltsp bugs i want to look at and due to the brokenness of the isos i still couldnt test the instaler changes [02:10] edubuntu-artwork is just in my hands and i'm making the final changes [02:10] ogra: does jill need to do any more ? [02:11] changes I mean [02:11] we shipped an additional icon theme the last releases for the "plain" flavour [02:11] RichEd, nope, i think its fine as is [02:12] i'm planning to drop that ... i doubt anyone every used it and i'll take care for the icons in the "plain" theme to fall back on something sane [02:12] that will save us 10M [02:12] moodle was changed a lot by LaserJock and moquist the last weeks and sits in the main inclusion queue for review [02:13] its likely we'll have it in the default install this time === RichEd holds thumbs for approva; [02:13] *approval [02:13] lots of people will rejoice for that [02:14] well, that was actually already the "* Progress over the last week" topic === ogra was very busy with stuff for the classmate PC as well so didnt do as much on the distro as i wanted [02:14] we can actually make a public announcement now on that ... [02:15] we discovered one bad bug in ltsp i'd love to solve ... but that will cost us 16M on the cD [02:15] A version of Ubuntu with Education applications is being developed for the Intel Classmate PC [02:15] Intel have looked at a few Linux options, but decided to go with Ubuntu because of customer demand [02:16] So it will be available with Windows / Ubuntu ... those will be the two supported sales options [02:16] --- [02:16] since ubunt defaults to use compiz, we should have support for it in ltsp, but due to a missing 16M big library it cant do composite ... [02:16] <`6og> hm... interesting to see [02:16] <`6og> 16*mb* *lib*? [02:16] mesa-dir [02:16] *err dri [02:17] its not on the edubuntu CD === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:17] that would mean we miss a big feature we inherit from ubuntu [02:17] but i sadly have no idea where to get 16M from [02:17] <`6og> how much extra grunt does this mean we need on the terminals? [02:17] nothing [02:17] its not used on the majority of terminals at all [02:17] <`6og> saywah? [02:17] <`6og> oh right [02:18] <`6og> can you explain the compiz by default bit - how 'by default' is it? [02:18] you need a compoisite capable device on the client [02:18] fully by default [02:18] if you install ubuntu its the window manager === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:19] the autodetection falls back to metacity if it doesnt find composite though [02:19] i dont think we can ignore such a big feature [02:20] but i have no idea what top drop ... and it will affect *all* CDs [02:20] <`6og> what sort of odds are there that it fails to fall back to metacity properly? [02:20] very minimal chances [02:20] <`6og> suppose thats as good as it gets in reality ;) [02:20] it was on nearly the whole dev cycle already [02:20] so there was a good amount of feedback [02:21] the feature will be there in any cqase [02:22] my prob atm is that openoffice is broken since weeks now and i cant even guess the real CD size [02:23] currently they are all about 30M oversized, but i dont know how much of that is openoffices fault and how much is real oversizedness [02:24] i'll do my best to get it fixed, but cant promise anything here [02:24] well, thats about it ... [02:24] any questions anyone ? [02:25] yes, is the image from today bootable? [02:25] no idea [02:25] ok [02:25] <`6og> how long do bugs keep getting fixed for? === `6og has a recollection of stuff freezing over totally real soon [02:25] there was a kernel upload ... likely that there is something out of sync [02:26] ogra, is there an other image i can download for testing? [02:26] but i havent tested it at all ... [02:26] juliux_, only the ones on cdimage.u.c [02:26] hm ok [02:27] `6og, that totally depends :) [02:27] `6og, its a matter of severity and of the size of the fix [02:28] samll bugs will still get fixed after beta if the fixes are non intrusive [02:28] bigger ones if they are severe enough [02:29] <`6og> :) gotcha [02:29] other questions ? [02:30] doesnt look like ... [02:30] going once [02:30] ogra: what status do I look for in LP to confirm which features look likely to go in ? [02:31] RichEd, hmm, we'll need to go over that i set all that were not likely to get in to deferred at feature freeze, but didnt go over the rest yet [02:31] okay ... when you have a chance thanks ... [02:32] that's all [02:33] adjourned then :) [02:33] thanks everybody [02:33] thanks ogra and others === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:36] <`6og> adjourned = stopping, or pausing? [02:38] stopping [02:39] ogra! [02:39] <`6og> ok === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["You] [02:41] Hobbsee, ! === toutouff_ [n=nicolas@gov91-1-82-234-90-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-164-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:42] @Detroit [03:46] @time Detroit === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["bella] [03:47] @schedule detroit [03:47] jjesse, ;) [03:47] ah thanks juliux_ [03:47] @schedule detroit === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-164-226.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["~>] === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [03:50] That's odd. [03:50] @schedule America/Detroit [03:50] ? 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