[12:37] Hey folks. [12:38] hey TheMuso === peanutb [n=paulb@phns1.gotdns.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] ello TheMuso ajmitch [12:44] hey imbrandon [12:44] what's up? [12:45] alrighty, what is on the blocks for getting fixed today? [12:50] bugs? === gizmo [n=gizmo@xdsl-84-44-186-48.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.220.188] has joined #ubuntu-motu === K0brik [n=Dion@0x535867be.odnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] I am writing a finetuning script for Ubuntu Feisty on my system. Should I add it somewhere when I'm done [01:13] it is basically some gconf commands [01:13] and some kernel tweaking === K0brik to show some respect === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-076-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] btw C is not 0 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === begert [n=booga@cpe-74-74-217-64.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [i=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.202.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ash-Fox [n=N@host81-133-146-74.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === radamantis [n=radamant@f.ajusco.upn.mx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === radhios [n=radhios@unaffiliated/radhios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === begert [n=booga@cpe-74-74-217-64.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] <_MMA_> Can someone tell me why Bug 140620 was assigned to Ubuntu Studio? Can a user do that to try to get it further attention? [01:59] Launchpad bug 140620 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy] sound card stopped working with 2.6.22-11 for ICH7 pci id 8086:27d8" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140620 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] _MMA_: Have you looked at the activity log? [02:01] <_MMA_> no [02:02] That will tell you who assigned it to ubuntustudio. [02:02] c [02:02] ugh [02:07] <_MMA_> TheMuso: k. I got it. === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.216.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.216.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-72850fb14413fc9c] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.219.199] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] _MMA_: users commonly assign bugs when they shouldn't === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] <_MMA_> ajmitch: I did track it down. bdmurry at BenC's request assigned it to us as the user had this issue using the new -rt kernel we've been working on. Thing is I cant find if things work fine for him on -generic. In any case I'll chat with Ben about it tomorrow. === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] fun :) [02:42] <_MMA_> :D === TheMuso grumbles about debian maintainers removing files from a binary package for no documented reason, even though the files look totally reasonable to ship. === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Heya gang [02:51] arr matey! [02:52] :-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] Hobbsee: !!!!!!!!!!!! [02:54] hye Hobbsee [02:57] hey bddebian, zul! [02:59] I'm beginning to realize that I really probably should have something specific I work on :-( === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] bddebian: like the sponsorship queue? [03:05] Are "package includes py[co] files really worth the delta with debian? [03:05] no idea [03:05] LP: #83860 [03:08] What's that? [03:08] hello Hobbsee [03:09] Oh sure, hi ajmitch [03:09] bddebian: just a bug from a changleog [03:09] Seveas: would you mind fixing ubotu to parse bugs with that syntax? [03:09] hiya ajmitch [03:09] hello bddebian [03:10] Heya Hobbsee, ajmitch bddebian :) [03:11] hi RAOF. have you fixed the world yet? [03:11] Heya RAOF [03:11] Hobbsee: Nah, I've been busy. === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] I haven't even fixed Xgl yet :( [03:11] that's ok, we can file a removal request for xgl [03:11] Don't feel bad, I don't fix anything :-) [03:11] haha [03:12] RAOF: darn you. [03:13] Hobbsee: And to cap it off, I'll have a whole bunch of marking to do after tomorrow. [03:13] Also, I'm tired. === bddebian is tired of waiting for this dist-upgrade [03:14] bddebian: Ensure you are getting the latest dpkg... [03:14] awww [03:14] TheMuso: Aye, thx [03:14] so the guide to wminput suggests the following udev rule [03:15] KERNEL=="uinput", MODE="0666" [03:15] siretart: you around? i have a really stupid question. [03:16] pwnguin: that seems a bit silly [03:16] ajmitch: im not sure how to fix it though. they suggest a group [03:16] what is uinput? [03:16] im not sure but [03:16] i use it in another package =( [03:16] im guessing usb input [03:18] ajmitch: can you deal with the latest MOTU mail please? [03:18] the debian fingerprint guys are moving forward on their stuff, and i know it uses uinput. it vaguely feels like a bug to have an authentication tool not owned by root [03:19] Hobbsee: you have root [03:19] ajmitch: indeed, i do, but i dont actually know what my p/w on revu is - and it's asking me for it. [03:19] hah [03:19] heh [03:20] ajmitch: hence the asking of the stupid question about [03:20] s/about/above [03:20] removed, you can reply [03:20] Hrm, sure, I'll upload some dutch translation patch.. :-) [03:21] ajmitch: you could just fix the shell script too === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] uinput.c: /* * User level driver support for input subsystem === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger_ [n=me@N753P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] Hobbsee: 'fixed', in a sense [03:38] ajmitch: what'd you do? [03:39] well the uploaders.gpg keyring wasn't owned by www-data [03:40] it gets owned by whichever user 'revu-key update' was last run as [03:40] oh, classy [03:40] so the script was failing on chgrp [03:40] yep [03:40] I could remove 'set -e' === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] Heya Burgundavia [03:49] hey bddebian [03:49] and jsgotangco [03:50] and jdong [03:50] and and and.. :-) === bddebian goes back to being #ubuntu-motu greeter [03:52] bddebian: do the sponsorship queue instead. [03:52] bddebian: if you get bored of that, start fixing bugs, from #2. [03:53] bddebian: if even I can fix bugs, you can as well [03:55] Hobbsee: There isn't much there to do === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] ajmitch: I can't fix shit :-) [03:55] TheMuso: You still around? [03:55] bddebian: don't lie, get to work [03:56] Name something I've fixed. :-) [03:56] bddebian: yes there is. there are still 30K of bugs. [03:56] Hobbsee: In UUS? [03:56] bddebian: I'm not going to sit here & argue [03:56] bddebian: in ubuntu [03:56] ajmitch: Come on, it's fun :-) [03:57] no, it's really tiresome [03:57] bddebian: Yes. [03:57] TheMuso: Now I remember what I wanted to ask you. You are assigned to a libooc-xml bug but I was just about to request removal of that package. Do you have a need for it? [03:58] Hmm, bouncy does crash === jdong waves at bddebian, a bit late :) [03:59] :-) [03:59] bddebian: Not that I know of. I can't remember why I assigned myself now. === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] OK I'm going to ask for removal. It won't build with oo2c and xml support is built in oo2c now === ruminator [n=quag@CPE000103b9f502-CM0012c90cfcb8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-45-178.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-38-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] So who knows python gtk? :-) [04:34] probably quite a few people === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sud0 [n=sud0@node125.195.100.208.1dial.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] Gawd I suck at debugging stuff [04:54] ajmitch: am i not correct in saying that upstream should not put `debain/` in a release tar if at all possible , so we dont have to repack ( i know repacking is last resort ) etc, i'm trying to explain this to someone but its not comming out right [04:54] and i'm not sure where its at in the policy if it is [04:55] Tell them to go ahead and have one, just remove it on make dist ;-P [04:55] bddebian: right but make-dist is before they package the tar ;) === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] Uhm, shouldn't make-dist create the tar? === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-015-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon yawns [05:20] Drink more Mt. Dew! [05:24] he needs a bigger fridge for that. [05:24] hehe [05:24] its oreo's and milk atm [05:25] scary [05:25] what happened to you? [05:26] Milk? WTF? You can dip Oreos in Mt. Dew, can't ya? ;-P [05:27] heheh oreo's and OJ is better [05:27] my wife hates when i do that === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] LaserJock: goto sleep ;) [05:39] Oh, miro. Why must you mock me? [05:39] me?? [05:39] sleep?!? [05:39] Sleep is for the weak. [05:40] No no, sleep is for the week [05:40] week after release? [05:40] Sounds about right [05:42] :) === apachelogger__ [n=me@N753P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] this should be interesting [05:50] wacom entries pulled from xorg.conf =/ [05:51] thats normaly the first thing i delete [05:51] from xorg.conf [05:52] that would be okay [05:52] if i wanted my tablet not to work ;) === YokoZar_ [n=scott@c-67-166-147-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] i was rather hoping the conf file restructuring would hit gutsy === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zachy [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LongPointyStick [n=mystery@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] tonyyarusso: explain why bug 140864 is failed against ubuntu, please? :) [06:31] Launchpad bug 140864 in ubuntu "Not all Minnesota Team members are on ML" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140864 [06:32] ajmitch: b/c LP is stupid and I couldn't think of a better way to send notifications to the team until the other bug mentioned is fixed. Suggestions for less weird ways _very_ welcome. [06:33] less spammish would be having a website product or similar for the team, with the team as bug contact [06:34] hmm, that might work [06:34] would it be easy to create such a product and then remove it if it became no longer relevant? [06:34] probably, but I don't know the details of removing products === tonyyarusso looks into creating products [06:35] ajmitch: are you aware of any other pseudo-projects like that? [06:35] no, that's why I suggested a website product, since plenty of teams have something like that [06:37] I see my pbuilder script has turned into a monster [06:37] mine isn't public [06:37] it's under lock & key on my disk [06:37] ajmitch: do you have a link to an example handy? [06:38] no [06:38] k === tonyyarusso searches [06:48] Good night all. [06:51] night ScottK === ajmitch debates whether to go to the pub tonight for a LUG meeting [06:51] Gnight ScottK [06:51] I'm heading too, gnight folks [06:51] night bddebian [06:52] Gnight ajmitch [06:59] ajmitch: okay, I made something more sane - how do I remove it from Ubuntu? [06:59] mark it as invalid [06:59] done [06:59] that all? [06:59] cool, thanks [06:59] that's all you can do [07:00] ok === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73507.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] good morning === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-ed810e4489ad73f3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] hey dholbach [08:03] hey ajmitch [08:03] Hey dholbach. [08:04] heya RAOF [08:09] morning guys [08:09] dholbach, can you unsubscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors from that lirc bug? keescook uploaded it, but it still has a task in linux-ubuntu-modules which ubuntu-main-sponsors doesn't need to be subscribed for [08:11] superm1_: ok, will do [08:13] Oh, blargh. Why won't Xgl do the decent thing and clean up it's lockfiles on exit? === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === atlas95 [n=atlas@AVelizy-153-1-45-48.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-5-207.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] I try to build a feisty package on my ppa. I get E: Package dialog has no installation candidate [08:48] I think dialog is in universe [08:49] elmargol: best to try #launchpad - check https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart - especially the bit about the 'ogre model' [08:52] elmargol, it shouldn't need to build depend on dialog, but the resultant binary would make sense to depend on something like that [08:52] Do i have to set the Section on every Package: section? [08:53] Or only at the Source: [08:53] well it won't hurt in any way to put it for every section [08:54] It depends if the Section is the same. === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.144.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.225.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-174-184.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.225.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] morning [09:16] hey siretart [09:17] <\sh> siretart, very nice mail :) === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.144.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] :) === siretart hugs dholbach & \sh [09:18] \sh: I didn't suppose to post it to the mailing lists as well. but well, anyhow.. [09:18] <\sh> siretart, the good thing is, that thomas knows what's going on... === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:18] <\sh> and I saw michael is already in the team..which is also very good :) [09:20] Hello all [09:22] <\sh> siretart, when you have time and fun, check out apache directory studio...it's an eclipse plugin which contains an ldap browser and scheme editor....REALLY GOOD CRACK :) [09:23] hi siretart, \sh [09:23] *headscratch* [09:23] apache directory studio.. hmm. is this openldap or another ldap server? [09:23] siretart: I commented out 'set -e' in revu-key, and changed ownership of the uploaders.gpg keyring, it was causing it to fail when run by www-data [09:24] ajmitch: good catch! [09:24] ajmitch: feel free to commit it! [09:28] reminder to self: DO NOT close bugs with uploads to a (team-) ppa [09:29] heh [09:29] i do wish i could file bugs against my own ppa [09:29] pwnguin: you could create a product, and file bugs against that [09:30] ubuntu-backports is doing that for instance [09:31] well, these are basically packages that gutsy+1 will pull in from the same place i did === stgraber1 [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] siretart: also use ntpdate in amd64 builders :) [09:31] at which point, all the bugs will have to be refiled against them in ubuntu as well [09:32] Le-Chuck_ITA: sorry? [09:32] siretart: you were talking about a fix: (LP# ...) you commited or about fixing this in launchpad? [09:33] Le-Chuck_ITA: Ooooh, can you use that to make the amd64 builds actually work? :) [09:33] I had an amd64 package built and it worked?! [09:33] Le-Chuck_ITA: I'm still confused. I've uploaded test packages to a ppa, which closed bugs against packages in the ubuntu archive [09:34] siretart: Ok so never mind [09:34] dunno why, I thought you were going to fix the bug in LP :) [09:35] Le-Chuck_ITA: Oh. I thought you were talking about bug #137185. [09:35] Launchpad bug 137185 in soyuz "Builds fail due to timestamp differences" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137185 [09:35] also [09:35] :) === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] siretart: that's a LP bug [09:36] siretart: I filed it and hope it gets fixed ASAP [09:36] dholbach: I'm subscribed to that bug ;) [09:36] ok great :) === Le-Chuck_ITA subscribes to bug 137815 [09:36] Launchpad bug 137815 in ubuntu "Default firewall rules needed along with program to set up firewall (dup-of: 52449)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137815 [09:36] Launchpad bug 52449 in ubuntu "Where is the firewall in Kubuntu" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52449 [09:36] ahaha [09:36] sorry [09:37] typo [09:38] Heh. [09:38] dholbach: To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell: > gpg -d < another revu-key instance is already running check /tmp/revu-key.pid and PID 3202 [09:39] this on revu site [09:39] Le-Chuck_ITA: hm? I have my revu password [09:39] The password recovery is currently buggy. [09:39] ok, thanks [09:39] and... ehm, should I just retry until success? [09:40] Nope, some admin needs to remove the stale lockfile. [09:40] hmm [09:41] again? [09:41] <\sh> I wonder if it's possible to run compiz on two screens [09:41] siretart: Looks like that. ;) [09:41] siretart: Is the source available somewhere? [09:42] pkern: sure, should be on launchpad [09:42] not sure if that changes have been pushed yet. there are some (site specific) revision in the branch on sparky that should not be pushed, though === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] Amaranth: Hey! [09:44] stale lock file removed, and narrowed the lock [09:44] RAOF: hey [09:44] siretart: thanks [09:44] this should unbreak diff.py [09:44] Amaranth: Xgl is broken in annoying ways! Help me fix it! :) [09:44] RAOF: hehehe [09:44] RAOF: busy fixing compiz [09:45] elmo's gnome-terminals won't fullscreen [09:45] siretart: I did not find any locking stuff on LP, but k. ;) === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.225.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] <\sh> Amaranth, hmmm? F11 FullScreen? [09:45] Amaranth: Heh. Works For Me(tm) [09:45] pkern: oh. I see. looking at it [09:46] \sh: right, in metacity gnome-terminal gets two configure events (because it's reparented) and so redraws itself [09:46] siretart: I am in trouble just again [09:46] \sh: in compiz it gets one, i need to make it get two [09:46] Amaranth: Aaah. I see. It's empty until you touch it? [09:47] I registered on REVU months ago, I then lost the passprase of my old key - I need to register again since key recovery is for old key [09:47] I have registered my new key in launchpad and uploaded sources signed with the new key, to make the situation worse [09:48] RAOF: NVIDIA FIXED THE BLACK WINDOWS [09:48] Amaranth: I know. Also the VT switch bug, apparently. [09:48] RAOF: that was fixed in 100.14.11 [09:48] Amaranth: News to me. It's still broken here (with sync_to_vblank on). === Amaranth installs it [09:49] Amaranth: Plus, the kernel team are hard-a-work shoving the new biniary blob down the appropriate tubes. [09:50] What's a biniary blob? [09:50] Le-Chuck_ITA: Why did you keep the old key activated? [09:50] It's quite a lot like a binary blob, but with more personality. [09:50] RAOF: Thhbt [09:51] Also, someone has put some XFont-enabled emacs-snapshot packages into a PPA. Dear lord that looks better. [09:51] I didn't save a revocation certificate at the time, because I didn't know a lot about gpg and keys === zhangle [n=zle@218.244.185.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu === arthur- [n=arthur@serv2.dunnewind.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] StevenK: That acronym means nothing to me :) [09:51] Le-Chuck_ITA: But the deactivation on LP might be distinct from that? (Although I did not try it.) [09:51] pkern: I think I deactivated that on LP [09:51] Le-Chuck_ITA: It somehow can't force me to revoke my key if I just want to deactivate it. [09:51] RAOF: Blowing a raspberry [09:52] StevenK: Ah. Right. [09:52] Le-Chuck_ITA: Well, there are still two listed on `https://launchpad.net/~vincenzo-ml'. [09:52] you're right, deactivating now [09:53] Le-Chuck_ITA: I am pretty sure that two keys with the same email addresses confuse REVU. === zhangle [n=zle@218.244.185.202] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:53] I disabled the forgotten one, do you have to resync? [09:54] REVU needs to resync the keyring then, yeah. [09:54] (I can't do that...) [09:54] how often does this happen? [09:55] Le-Chuck_ITA: Once a day by cron, and manually by admins, I got told. [09:55] Le-Chuck_ITA: i.e. the problem should autofix itself until tomorrow. [09:55] ok, I will wait. A last question: I uploaded sources to revu signed with my new key, will they stay there? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] ok I am always here asking everything [10:07] but is there a wiki page on non-native uploads? === _taupter_ [n=Taupter@201009074152.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] Le-Chuck_ITA: In what way "non-native"? You mean "debian native", or what? [10:10] I mean the ones with the original tarball, since I have to upload a new version to REVU... [10:14] Le-Chuck_ITA: What particularly about them? You can include the original tarball in the source package by passing "-sa" to debuild, or dpkg-buildpakage. Is that what you mean? [10:15] This is what I mean but... ehm, I have the original tarball, do I have to put in the directory containing the source tree, and debuild will find it, or what? === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.225.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] Le-Chuck_ITA: It needs to be in the directory containing the unpacked source directory (ie: the parent directory of the source) === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] RAOF: it has also to be named in a particular way, and, also, how does debuild know not to pack the whole source tree? [10:19] Le-Chuck_ITA: I'm not really following you. [10:19] Let me start a different way: [10:20] You have the upstream tarball, which you've downloaded and now want to package. [10:20] When a daddy bit and a mummy bit love each other very much ... === StevenK smirks === RAOF hits StevenK with a full-grown atlantic salmon. [10:20] Ouch, that tickles [10:21] First, you rename the tarball to "foo_version.orig.tar.gz". [10:21] Then, you unpack that tarball. [10:22] Then, you do your packaging stuff in the unpacked source. === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F76FD5.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Le-Chuck_ITA types as fast as he can [10:23] Then, when debuild comes along to build the source package, diffs your unpacked source tree against the .orig.tar.gz, creating the "foo_version-0ubuntu1.diff.gz" and friends. [10:23] and, this is what it isn't doing! [10:23] surely it's my fault but I don't understand where [10:23] Can you pastebin the output of your debuilder run? [10:23] I have xournal_0.4.1.orig.tar.gz and xournal-0.4.1 (d) [10:24] Looks OK at this point... [10:24] but maybe I have to append also ubuntu1 to the orig.tar.gz name... === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] No. [10:25] Can you pastebin the output of your debuilder run? [10:26] Presumably there's an error message hiding somewhere. [10:26] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37885/ [10:27] Le-Chuck_ITA: Your version in debian/changelog is wrong :) [10:27] I have: xournal (0.4.1ubuntu1) gutsy; urgency=low [10:28] You've got 0.4.1ubuntu1 (which is for a native package), rather than 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 [10:28] Is it a native package? My guess is no :) === Le-Chuck_ITA feels so shy [10:28] Eh, it's a simple enough mistake. [10:28] so if someone files a bug against a universe package, is marking it invalid appropriate? [10:29] pwnguin: Depends on whether or not it's an invalid bug, surely. [10:29] RAOF: i just did a search in launchad for invalid/wontfix [10:29] from what i can tell [10:29] at one point, lp was not for tracking universe bugs [10:29] RAOF: dpkg-source: building xournal using existing xournal_0.4.1.orig.tar.gz - yeah! [10:30] as mdz has several "we dont track unsupported packages in this system" replies [10:30] (in 2005) [10:31] Oh. That's no longer the case! There are tons of valid bugs filed against universe :) [10:31] thats what i thought [10:32] theres a discussion in launchpad on closing bugs [10:32] apparently some people want to mark bugs WONTFIX or something to indicate they're ignoring it [10:32] Yup. This seems reasonable. [10:33] i donno === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy hugs dholbach [10:34] just because one person ignores a bug doesn't mean everyone should === dholbach hugs proppy back === TLE_02 [n=kenneth@77.75.167.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] regarding recently gutsy publish ubuntu2 version of poker-network package should I request a feisty-backport or a SRU ? === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] or is it too late [10:40] do not know if 'fixing crashing bug' is worth requesting a SRU [10:41] dholbach: Bug #137934 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=267 [10:41] Launchpad bug 137934 in xournal "Please sponsor xournal 0.4.1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137934 === propp1 [n=proppy@free2.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] is bug #137573 much more a candidate to feisty backport or SRU? [10:42] Launchpad bug 137573 in poker-network "poker2d crash (SIGSEGV) at startup" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137573 [10:43] propp1: how long lasts feisty support? [10:44] Le-Chuck_ITA: you mean by upstream ? or by ubuntu ? [10:45] by ubuntu [10:45] Le-Chuck_ITA: checking it out [10:45] Le-Chuck_ITA: normally it's just enough to follow up on the bug report [10:45] hmmm, you're subscribed via ubuntu-bugs so [10:45] sorry, didn't mean to push you [10:47] dholbach: where should I follow up the bug report ? === sahin_w [n=KT@210.216.53.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:48] Le-Chuck_ITA: no problem [10:48] propp1: I don't know what you are referring to? [10:48] (10:45:24 AM) dholbach: Le-Chuck_ITA: normally it's just enough to follow up on the bug report [10:48] sorry I must have missunderstood [10:48] propp1: I was talking to Le-Chuck_ITA :) [10:49] no problem [10:49] propp1 it was because I pinged him on IRC [10:49] Le-Chuck_ITA: this change should not be necessary: [10:49] --- xournal-0.3.3/debian/control 2007-09-19 10:45:48.000000000 +0200 [10:49] +++ xournal-0.4.1/debian/control 2007-09-19 10:45:41.000000000 +0200 [10:49] @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ [10:49] Source: xournal [10:49] -Section: x11 [10:49] +Section: universe/x11 [10:49] Priority: optional [10:49] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers [10:49] XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Mathieu Bouchard [10:49] I can fix it if you like [10:49] yes please [10:49] ok [10:50] test building it [10:52] dholbach: Daniel, when is the `universe/' bit necessary? I know that packages get promoted w/o source changes to main, but according to lp-users you sometimes have to add it... [10:53] pkern: that's just for PPA uploads [10:53] dholbach: Ok. [10:53] cf. https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart -> 'ogre model' === Kabyl__ [n=XSource@41.201.211.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] apart from that it should not be necessary at all [10:53] dholbach: Does it hurt if it is uploaded to Ubuntu proper with this change? i.e. PPA packages could not be uploaded verbatim? [10:54] we override it in LP for archive.ubuntu.com anyway [10:54] pkern: it would not hurt, no [10:54] pkern: I just removed it because it's a change vs the debian package and I noticed it before the upload :) [10:55] pkern: but right, I see your point - it's not nice [10:55] in any case a ppa package is likely to have a different changelog [10:55] That would not hurt, would it? [10:55] no [10:56] we should ask the LP folks in the next PPA session what their plans are for that [10:56] yes but you can't upload a ppa package [10:56] we should chime in on a specficiation dealing with copying over sources [10:56] you have to edit the changelog to reflect ubuntu versions === Baby [n=miry@195.37.62.208] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] Le-Chuck_ITA: So your point is that you have to edit the package anyway. [10:57] yes at least for now [10:59] Le-Chuck_ITA: do not know about feisty support [10:59] It was just my theory that if feisty is going to be unsupported an SRU does not make much sense now [10:59] but I don't know for sure [10:59] how ok [11:00] you mean as feisty is not LTS [11:00] yes === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] so a backport make more sense ? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] In my opinion yes and it's easier too [11:01] ok :) [11:01] Le-Chuck_ITA: thanks [11:01] "Each Ubuntu release is supported for 18 months with security patches, fixes for critical bugs that could cause data loss, and extra translations." === amachu [n=amachu@59.92.89.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] bug in question does not cause data loss but the package is completely broken [11:02] would you advice SRU pkern? [11:03] Le-Chuck_ITA: I am not the right person to ask I am afraid. (: === Le-Chuck_ITA thinks he's not the right person too [11:05] I go back to my boring everyday maths, bye and thanks all for co-operation [11:05]