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| MythbuntuGuest73 | an apt-get update fixed the problem | 01:18 |
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| MythbuntuGuest73 | installing now | 01:18 |
| keescook | superm1_: you bet, thanks for collecting and testing those fixes. | 01:19 |
| superm1_ | keescook, for some reason or another lirc has been a fun pet package to pick up :) | 01:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | hi all | 01:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | :) | 01:19 |
| keescook | superm1_: yeah, I know what you mean. :) | 01:19 |
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| [_Trimble_] | sigh. trying to install from the 7.10 ISO again... failing to even load the liveCD... sigh | 01:22 |
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| [_Trimble_] | sigh... if I click Install Proprietary Video Driver during install, the installer locks up. | 01:34 |
| [_Trimble_] | even after i freshly burned a new disc from the iso :( | 01:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 01:36 |
| foxbuntu | tgm4883_laptop, I am in coder hell...vbscript and SIDs | 01:37 |
| === tgm4883_laptop doesn't know foxbuntu :) | ||
| === foxbuntu is going to kick tgm4883_laptop out of the irc for that comment | ||
| foxbuntu | :P | 01:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | !bug 137167 | [_Trimble_] | 01:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137167 | 01:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you would think I would know that bug number off the top of my head by now | 01:39 |
| [_Trimble_] | hehehe thank you. at least I know it's not my fault ;) | 01:39 |
| [_Trimble_] | what is the silicon dust HDHomerun config util? is that for some specific hardware? | 01:41 |
| [_Trimble_] | I dont have any hardware by silicon dust... | 01:41 |
| [_Trimble_] | or is that software for configuring something i migh thave? | 01:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | its for a tuner | 01:46 |
| [_Trimble_] | ok good - i dont have that one | 01:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | if you dont have it then get it :P | 01:49 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol i assume it's for HD.. i dont have any HD displays yet :P | 01:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | do you have a computer monitor? | 01:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | booya, probably HD | 01:50 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah, but I'm not going to use it for my mythtv watching in the family room ;) | 01:50 |
| === tgm4883_laptop can't live without HD | ||
| [_Trimble_] | i can't justify the cost of HD still | 01:51 |
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| [_Trimble_] | ok, I need to put ndiswrapper on this box... can I do that with just apt-get install ndiswrapper? or should i do apt get update/upgrade first? | 02:22 |
| Tari | just installing ndiswrapper should work | 02:41 |
| [_Trimble_] | thx :) | 02:42 |
| [_Trimble_] | im using it's onboard wired lan to setup, plan to switch back to wireless when it's driver is in place :) | 02:42 |
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| [_Trimble_] | hi guest | 02:45 |
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| [_Trimble_] | hi tari | 02:47 |
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| ian_001 | does anyone know the correct command to do a full upgrade? | 02:49 |
| ian_001 | i have the release from the 11th and just tried ot upgrade my nvidia drivers and now they dont work because they require the latest kernel i guess | 02:49 |
| MythbuntuGuest69 | hi! | 02:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest69 | I just had the nvidia problem | 02:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest69 | had to apt-get update first | 02:52 |
| Tari_ | yeah, that | 02:53 |
| MythbuntuGuest69 | are ivtv drivers installed? having a hard time getting my pvr-350 working | 02:55 |
| tgm4883 | ian_001, apt-get update then apt-get upgrade | 02:57 |
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| ian_001 | should i do an apt-get dist-upgrade? | 03:00 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | no!! | 03:00 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | just do apt-get update | 03:01 |
| ian_001 | good thing i asked, i was about to! | 03:01 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | then run the control panel thingie | 03:01 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | it fixed the error that the file was not found | 03:01 |
| ian_001 | restricted-manager or something? | 03:02 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | the control center | 03:03 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | you have to change the logon type | 03:03 |
| ian_001 | reboot first? | 03:03 |
| tgm4883 | ian_001, feisty or gutsy? | 03:03 |
| ian_001 | the mythbuntu install from sept 1 | 03:04 |
| ian_001 | so the latest | 03:04 |
| tgm4883 | you may want to try a dist-upgrade | 03:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | Sorry, | 03:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | I thought you had a different problem | 03:04 |
| tgm4883 | although I don't know if that will fix your problem, as a regular apt-get upgrade should pull the package your looking for | 03:05 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | I downloaded the image tonight and installed it. The nvidia driver would not install until I did an update. | 03:06 |
| ian_001 | because the previous driver wasnt there? | 03:06 |
| ian_001 | thats hte problem i had | 03:06 |
| ian_001 | i uninstalled just the nvidia driver and whe ni went to reinstall it it was gone | 03:06 |
| tgm4883 | what do you mean it is gone? | 03:07 |
| ian_001 | when i went to install the nvidia driver from the restricted mmanager it shoewd me the url and it couldnt download the file, i opened a browser and the file didnt exist on the server | 03:07 |
| ian_001 | said it couldnt | 03:08 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | now, finally got pvr-350 working. last obsticle is lirc! No remote for me yet... | 03:08 |
| ian_001 | ugh | 03:08 |
| ian_001 | this always happens when i do na upgrade | 03:08 |
| ian_001 | the remote never works | 03:08 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | that is the same problem that I had | 03:08 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | i did the apt-get update | 03:08 |
| ian_001 | i knew i shouldnt have played with the nvidia driver | 03:08 |
| ian_001 | did you try using the mythbuntu config application? | 03:09 |
| ian_001 | rebooting, brb | 03:09 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | remote never works? | 03:09 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | What did he mean by that I wonder? | 03:10 |
| tgm4883 | i suppose he meant that every time he touches his video card driver it breaks his lirc | 03:11 |
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| ian_001 | ok now both my remote and my nvidia driver work | 03:15 |
| [_Trimble_] | @#$@#$ nvidia drivers broke my machine.... :( | 03:15 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol | 03:15 |
| ian_001 | what worked for me was apt-get update, apt-get upgrade | 03:15 |
| ian_001 | i thought my remote would break during the process but im fine | 03:16 |
| [_Trimble_] | nice :) | 03:16 |
| [_Trimble_] | I'm using the 7.10 mythbuntu iso, and I just asked it to install the "nvidia latest" drivers, and X broke. /sigh In my test rig i used the non-latest.. heh | 03:17 |
| ian_001 | did yo utry the update? | 03:17 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah | 03:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | Is there an easy way to get the remote working on a fresh install? It is a Hauppage remote | 03:18 |
| [_Trimble_] | before i asked it to install the nvidia drivers | 03:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | nevermind! | 03:19 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | apparently I just needed to install my old lircrc file | 03:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | well, my hauppage 150 silver remote worked immediately after install using the 7.10 iso | 03:19 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | mine is kinda working now | 03:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | mine worked perfectly on my test HD, except i had to edit the config to get the back/exit button working | 03:20 |
| [_Trimble_] | now i'm trying to put the same config on my real HD and it's being a pain | 03:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | yeah, that is the button that is broken on mine. | 03:23 |
| ubotu | New bug: #140841 in mythtv (multiverse) "package mythtv-transcode-utils 0.20.2-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/mythtranscode', that is also on package mythtv-backend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140841 | 03:26 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | glad I remembered to back up my highly modificated lircrc!! | 03:26 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | anyone remember how to make the ok/enter button go to a channel from the guide? | 03:31 |
| [_Trimble_] | wait, what? | 03:38 |
| [_Trimble_] | change ok/enter? | 03:38 |
| [_Trimble_] | i forgot what file i edited to fix my back/exit button heh | 03:39 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | I got that | 03:42 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | the lircrc mane did not match the lirc.conf name | 03:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | the volume names were screwy too | 03:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | only thing I dod not get working tonight is the DVD. | 03:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | There is a setting in the guide settings where it changes the function of the ok button while in guide to make it change channels. I found it | 03:44 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | otherwise the ok button goes to record settings | 03:45 |
| MythbuntuGuest92 | heading to bed! Thanks to anyone involved in making MU. It is WAY easier than doing it from scratch like last time | 03:46 |
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| [_Trimble_] | good LORD how much data does it download from schedules direct the first time? 20 weeks worth? | 03:59 |
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| superm1_ | tgm4883, that screenshot you posted, its fixed in ubiquity already | 04:12 |
| superm1_ | after alpha4 | 04:12 |
| superm1_ | laga, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=commit;h=435c10811fc81d371a1ac385d4a9be590f9a1861 :) | 04:13 |
| superm1_ | this looks promissing | 04:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, screen shot? | 04:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | oh the ubiquity crash? | 04:16 |
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| FatDave | wow. i'm on the site. Just found out about "mythbuntu" Its a really cool idea. | 04:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | thanks FatDave | 04:35 |
| FatDave | first question: is it going to support cards like hauppauge out of the box? | 04:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well most of the support will come from Gutsy | 04:35 |
| FatDave | thats what I was thinking, but haven't looked at gutsy yet. do you know if it has support for the ivtv drivers built in? | 04:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yes | 04:36 |
| FatDave | tit banger! thats the one thing that pained me so every time that I installed mythtv on a fresh box | 04:36 |
| FatDave | I see that mythbuntu isn't "official" yet, but I assume it is good enough to install? | 04:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well, there are a few bugs | 04:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but it is usable | 04:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, whats the time frame for the beta? | 04:38 |
| FatDave | I also just found out about zap2it after seeing that there are no more channel listings in myth :( | 04:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | There is Schedules Direct though :) | 04:38 |
| FatDave | yeah, but you have to pay | 04:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | eh, it's only $15/6 months | 04:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but to each his own | 04:41 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah, 15 bucks for 6 months is wayyyyy better than tivo ;) | 04:42 |
| FatDave | i know. i'm just hoping that there will be enough of an outcry | 04:42 |
| tgm4883_laptop | an outcry for what? | 04:42 |
| FatDave | how does winblows media center work? do you have to pay for channel listings or something with that? | 04:42 |
| FatDave | outcry for another free tv listing service | 04:43 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well there are screenscraper programs | 04:43 |
| FatDave | i hear they don't work the best | 04:43 |
| tgm4883_laptop | they dont | 04:44 |
| FatDave | may not be accurate or something. never tried them though | 04:44 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but I wouldn't hold your breath for another free service | 04:44 |
| tgm4883_laptop | You could also either get data OTA, or go without channel data | 04:44 |
| FatDave | well, i am will be watching the progress with mythbuntu. I think its very cool | 04:44 |
| [_Trimble_] | <-- lurking... good night | 04:50 |
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| MythbuntuGuest11 | hello all | 05:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hi | 05:12 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | any reason why alpha4 nvidia does not sync with my monitor | 05:12 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | if that makes sense | 05:12 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | livecd | 05:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what card? | 05:13 |
| Aval0n- | how is libXvMC.so.1 in comparison to libXvMCNVIDIA.dynamic.so.1? | 05:13 |
| Aval0n- | anyone? | 05:13 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | geforce 6150 integrated | 05:13 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | asus m2npv-vm | 05:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | it should | 05:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | did you verify the iso and cd? | 05:14 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | yes | 05:14 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | burnt twice | 05:14 |
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| MythbuntuGuest11 | I have a samsung 22" lcd | 05:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | interesting | 05:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | my 6100 gets picked up fine, although it only does 1024x768 on my tv in the live env | 05:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | hmmm | 05:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | tried analog and digital | 05:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | so you can't even get into the live env? | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | no | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | i guess | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | i could | 05:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | did you try safe graphics mode? | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | alt+f2 to get to a term | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | and check xorg.conf | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | yes | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | I am running knoppmyth on the same box right now | 05:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, you around? | 05:16 |
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| superm1 | whats up tgm4883? | 05:17 |
| superm1 | whats up tgm4883_laptop ? | 05:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sweet | 05:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | when is the beta going to be released | 05:17 |
| superm1 | Tonight | 05:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | right | 05:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | sweet | 05:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what time? | 05:18 |
| superm1 | lol | 05:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest11, don't count on it | 05:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | hehe | 05:18 |
| superm1 | <-- Foxbuntu | 05:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | foxbuntu is playing a dirty trick | 05:18 |
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| foxbuntu | lol | 05:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest11 | i figured that out when he changed nicks | 05:18 |
| === tgm4883_laptop is now known as therealfoxbuntu | ||
| MythbuntuGuest11 | hehe | 05:19 |
| therealfoxbuntu | tgm4883 is the coolest | 05:19 |
| foxbuntu | lol | 05:19 |
| therealfoxbuntu | way cooler than I | 05:19 |
| foxbuntu | too slow, I witched back | 05:19 |
| foxbuntu | switched | 05:19 |
| therealfoxbuntu | nope, your an imposter, im the real foxbuntu | 05:19 |
| foxbuntu | besides everyone knows I am the l337'est | 05:19 |
| therealfoxbuntu | you may be delusional | 05:20 |
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| MythbuntuGuest11 | no one else has had a sync prob? | 05:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I do think that the beta will be released this week, if everything that superm1 wanted to happen did in fact happen | 05:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sorry mythbuntuguest11 | 05:21 |
| foxbuntu | tgm4883_laptop, yea...likely...went to the doc yesterday and well..he gave me some really good stuff | 05:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | of course he did | 05:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no one ever goes to the doc and says that they got really weak stuff | 05:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | just remember if it lasts longer than 4 hours you need to see a medical professional | 05:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | j/k | 05:22 |
| foxbuntu | really...I just thought it was supposed to be like that | 05:23 |
| foxbuntu | shit | 05:23 |
| foxbuntu | its been 10 hours | 05:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | foxbuntu, you use mythbuntu right? | 05:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | do you have screen blanking issues? | 05:25 |
| foxbuntu | I used to | 05:25 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what did you do :) | 05:25 |
| foxbuntu | .. | 05:25 |
| foxbuntu | I gotta think about it | 05:25 |
| foxbuntu | it was some stupid setting | 05:26 |
| foxbuntu | wow traffic still going up | 05:26 |
| foxbuntu | tgm4883_laptop, you running an nVidia card? | 05:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 05:28 |
| foxbuntu | oh are you running a desktop install or the actual Mythbuntu? | 05:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | mythbutnu | 05:28 |
| foxbuntu | oh...mine is desktop | 05:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i'll try anything | 05:28 |
| foxbuntu | becuase I have just kept upgrading | 05:28 |
| foxbuntu | my issue was related to running a desktop install | 05:29 |
| foxbuntu | its your power settings | 05:29 |
| foxbuntu | and something about the tv | 05:29 |
| foxbuntu | dpms i think | 05:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea | 05:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i've been messing around with that for a while now | 05:30 |
| foxbuntu | i think you can disable it in the xorg | 05:30 |
| foxbuntu | i have the DPMS line commented out in my Xorg | 05:34 |
| foxbuntu | in section Monitor | 05:34 |
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| itzac | how do I disable gnome-screensaver? | 05:45 |
| superm1_ | itzac, gnome-screensaver-preferences | 05:45 |
| itzac | great, thanks superml. figured it'd be something like that | 05:45 |
| superm1_ | itzac, next alpha it should be in the xfce menus once we activate xfce | 05:46 |
| itzac | good to hear, though I'm surprised it's enabled in the first place | 05:47 |
| superm1_ | well it makes sense on tvs | 05:47 |
| superm1_ | it shouldnt come on during the recordings though | 05:47 |
| superm1_ | just the menus | 05:47 |
| itzac | yeah, that's what I'd expect | 05:48 |
| superm1_ | is it coming on during recordings for you? | 05:48 |
| itzac | yup, and the remote doesn't turn it off. I have to use the keyboard | 05:48 |
| superm1_ | is the screen turning black? | 05:48 |
| superm1_ | or is the screensaver coming on | 05:48 |
| superm1_ | you might be encountering the same thing tgm4883_laptop was | 05:48 |
| itzac | turning black slowly | 05:48 |
| superm1_ | hm i wonder if the gnome screensaver support broke then recently | 05:49 |
| superm1_ | your sure its a slow fade to black | 05:49 |
| superm1_ | not just a sudden black | 05:49 |
| itzac | slow fade in menus, haven't seen it on tv, just came back to black | 05:50 |
| superm1_ | okay then you are encountering dpms problems | 05:51 |
| superm1_ | gnome screensaver support is working as expected though (in the menus its coming on) | 05:51 |
| superm1_ | dpms is turning on otherwise though | 05:51 |
| superm1_ | can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any info re: DPMS? | 05:51 |
| itzac | does it matter that this is on my TV? | 05:51 |
| superm1_ | it shouldn't | 05:52 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, get back here so you can say what you sorted out this with? | 05:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | im back whats up | 05:52 |
| superm1_ | itzac is getting the same DPMS thing you were | 05:52 |
| superm1_ | what did you end up having to do for it? | 05:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sweet | 05:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh, nothing | 05:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well | 05:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | actually I have tried everything, and it still does it | 05:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not what you wanted to hear? | 05:53 |
| itzac | all seems joyful in the log | 05:53 |
| superm1_ | itzac, can you do | 05:53 |
| superm1_ | xset q | 05:53 |
| itzac | can I do it from ssh? | 05:54 |
| superm1_ | No | 05:54 |
| superm1_ | open up the control centre and choose the advanced management tab | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | and hit the terminal button there | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | your looking for a section like this in the results of xset q | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | DPMS (Energy Star): | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0 | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | DPMS is Enabled | 05:55 |
| superm1_ | Monitor is On | 05:55 |
| itzac | q, brb | 05:56 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, in your xset q | 05:58 |
| superm1_ | can you check and see what the "Screen Saver:" | 05:58 |
| superm1_ | section indicates? | 05:58 |
| itzac | DPMS (Energy Star): | 05:58 |
| itzac | Standby: 1200 Suspend: 1800 Off: 2400 | 05:59 |
| itzac | etc.. | 05:59 |
| superm1_ | okay try this then | 05:59 |
| superm1_ | xset s -dpms | 05:59 |
| superm1_ | see if that resolves things | 05:59 |
| superm1_ | if it doesn't, then it is the normal "X" screensaver breaking them | 05:59 |
| itzac | should set values to 0? | 06:00 |
| superm1_ | once you do xset s -dpms | 06:00 |
| superm1_ | that turns them all off | 06:00 |
| itzac | dpms is disabled | 06:02 |
| superm1_ | hopefully that reoslves the issue | 06:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | man if that works im going to be happy | 06:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | and irritated | 06:02 |
| itzac | hehe | 06:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but mostly happy | 06:02 |
| superm1_ | well it still doesn't solve the problem permanently | 06:02 |
| superm1_ | it just will identify it | 06:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i swear i did that yesterday | 06:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea, a reboot will change it back | 06:02 |
| itzac | I was about to ask | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | so if that *doesn't work* | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | then try this | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | xset s off | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | but dont do them both right now | 06:03 |
| itzac | how do I make it permanent? | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | because we need to identify which one is causing it | 06:03 |
| superm1_ | we'll get to that after we know if its the solution :) | 06:03 |
| tgm4883_laptop | off to watch a show. I'll know in less than 30 | 06:04 |
| foxbuntu | evening superm1_ | 06:04 |
| superm1_ | hi | 06:04 |
| superm1_ | foxbuntu, i ran into travis today at the career fair | 06:05 |
| foxbuntu | which one? | 06:05 |
| foxbuntu | Farmer? | 06:05 |
| superm1_ | yes | 06:05 |
| foxbuntu | wow really? | 06:05 |
| foxbuntu | hows he doin? | 06:05 |
| superm1_ | graduating this may | 06:06 |
| foxbuntu | good | 06:06 |
| foxbuntu | I haven't heard from him in quite some time | 06:06 |
| superm1_ | yeah that's what he said | 06:07 |
| foxbuntu | who was he talking to at the cf? | 06:07 |
| superm1_ | i dunno | 06:07 |
| foxbuntu | oh | 06:07 |
| itzac | that seems to have done it, I think | 06:14 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | I still have the problem | 06:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | slow fade during tv | 06:15 |
| superm1_ | *slow fade*? | 06:15 |
| superm1_ | sure | 06:15 |
| superm1_ | ? | 06:15 |
| CBiLL | Hi folks | 06:15 |
| itzac | damn, looks like I was too optimistic, too | 06:16 |
| itzac | same thing | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | got rid of my flickering problem .. it was an VBI issue | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | submitted a report anyway | 06:16 |
| superm1_ | well you guys are describing two different problems | 06:16 |
| superm1_ | hi CBiLL | 06:16 |
| superm1_ | oh you had vbi on? | 06:16 |
| superm1_ | i could have told you vbi was buggy :) | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | I have to | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | I am deaf remember | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | =P | 06:16 |
| itzac | no, slow fade during tv | 06:16 |
| CBiLL | need it on for CC but it fixed | 06:17 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, your deaf? | 06:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | itzac, what is it doing to you? | 06:17 |
| CBiLL | yes | 06:18 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, sorry to hear that. that would make things difficult wrg to vbi wouldnt it | 06:18 |
| CBiLL | wrg? | 06:19 |
| superm1_ | with regard to | 06:19 |
| CBiLL | only thing i need to do was change relsolution to 720 x 480 | 06:19 |
| CBiLL | and it stop flickering | 06:19 |
| superm1_ | and vbi works now too? | 06:19 |
| foxbuntu | superm1_, btw...did the new Usplash work ok for you? | 06:20 |
| superm1_ | foxbuntu, i uploaded it to the archive | 06:20 |
| itzac | tgm, slow fade to black in menus or during tv | 06:20 |
| foxbuntu | awesome | 06:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | itzac, yep same thing here | 06:20 |
| superm1_ | foxbuntu, but i haven't rebooted my laptop yet, so i havent tried it | 06:21 |
| foxbuntu | oh you should | 06:21 |
| foxbuntu | its nice | 06:21 |
| CBiLL | some bug in IVTV | 06:21 |
| CBiLL | yes | 06:21 |
| CBiLL | perfectly | 06:21 |
| CBiLL | just change recording profile default and live tv | 06:21 |
| CBiLL | to 720 x 480 | 06:21 |
| superm1_ | itzac, tgm4883_laptop so then gnome-screensaver support *is* broken now or not. i'm pretty confused. | 06:21 |
| itzac | well, shutting off dpms didn't fix it | 06:22 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, we'll have to get that added to the wiki or to the manual | 06:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, I think it's gnome screensaver | 06:22 |
| superm1_ | itzac, try the xset s off | 06:22 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, well this isn't good then. | 06:22 |
| itzac | I've already disabled the screensaver, will let you know if that solves it | 06:22 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, can you let DaveMorris know next time you see him | 06:22 |
| CBiLL | superm1_ : I submitted a bug report on it | 06:22 |
| CBiLL | but yeah should be added to wiki | 06:22 |
| CBiLL | ok if I see him | 06:22 |
| CBiLL | he come to this channel? | 06:23 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, okay, well there is no general way to force it for everyone | 06:23 |
| superm1_ | yeah he does | 06:23 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | xset s off sets the screensaver to off? | 06:23 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, turns off the 'X' screensaver | 06:23 |
| superm1_ | not the gnome-screensaver | 06:23 |
| CBiLL | Ill remember it | 06:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 06:23 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, so everything else is working correctly for you now then right? | 06:23 |
| CBiLL | yes | 06:24 |
| CBiLL | perfectly | 06:24 |
| CBiLL | nice Closed Captioning too since i could change font and it size | 06:25 |
| CBiLL | I have not test recording and playing back on another player to see if it record the CC | 06:25 |
| CBiLL | I hope it does | 06:25 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, great. and everything you've ran into along the way has either already had a bug filed or is fixed in a future release right? | 06:25 |
| CBiLL | I don't know about being fixed in future release but found a forum talking about it | 06:25 |
| CBiLL | so tried it and it fixed the problem | 06:26 |
| CBiLL | so I filed a bug with a link to that forum post about it | 06:26 |
| superm1_ | okay so at least everything has bugs filed then | 06:26 |
| CBiLL | but picture is perfect | 06:26 |
| CBiLL | that is on PVR 500 composite in | 06:27 |
| CBiLL | where everyone says is grainy and crappy | 06:27 |
| CBiLL | and it not to me | 06:27 |
| CBiLL | look clean and almost sharp | 06:27 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, i should also note that the remote doesn't bring it out of the black screen | 06:27 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, see that's characteristic of the "X' screensaver | 06:28 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I just disabled gnome-screensaver so we'll see | 06:28 |
| superm1_ | but not gnome screensaver | 06:28 |
| CBiLL | those fade in and out | 06:28 |
| superm1_ | yeah | 06:29 |
| CBiLL | I seen them but only when I am in menu or left it there | 06:29 |
| CBiLL | never saw it occur on live tv | 06:29 |
| CBiLL | it a normal thing right? to fade out when it in Menu listing? | 06:29 |
| superm1_ | yeah that's normal | 06:29 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, and itzac claim that it is happening during tv too though | 06:30 |
| superm1_ | i think they're lying, but that's just me :) | 06:30 |
| superm1_ | CBiLL, re the picture being sharp to you: on a tv it looks a lot better to most people | 06:30 |
| CBiLL | ok back to get my samba working .. thanks again for trying superm1_ and wanted to come in to tell you about it | 06:30 |
| CBiLL | lagas was a huge help pinpointing it too! | 06:30 |
| CBiLL | oh no s hehe | 06:30 |
| CBiLL | laga | 06:30 |
| superm1_ | thanks for getting us the info on what needs to be done about it, we'll be able to point others toward it now :) | 06:30 |
| CBiLL | yes | 06:31 |
| CBiLL | just change the setting and it done | 06:31 |
| tgm4883_laptop | nope | 06:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | disabled gnome screensaver and it still does it | 06:36 |
| CBiLL | bios have screensaver on it? | 06:37 |
| superm1_ | tgm4883_laptop, did you do xset s off? | 06:37 |
| CBiLL | older copmuter did | 06:37 |
| CBiLL | I know lot of laptop bios had screensaver on it to save battery power .. are you using laptop? (just assuming due to your irc nickname ) | 06:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, no, i'm doing that now thought | 06:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | it takes about 10 minutes for it to happen, and the remote has no effect on it at all | 06:39 |
| CBiLL | hrmmm where the samba config saved at again? | 06:40 |
| superm1_ | /etc/samba/smb.conf | 06:42 |
| CBiLL | thanks | 06:42 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, that doesn't help either | 06:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | although i did notice that when I did xset s off, i then did checked it and dpms was turned back on | 06:52 |
| itzac | shutting off gnome-screensaver seems to have fixed the problem | 06:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | CBiLL, no, the problem is on my standalone system | 06:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | itzac, how did you shut it off? | 06:53 |
| itzac | I sshed in and ran gnome-screensaver-preferences and unchecked activate screensaver when computer is idle | 06:55 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hmm, thats what I did too | 06:55 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well, i ran it from the control centre | 06:55 |
| itzac | maybe it just hasn't turned on yet? | 06:56 |
| itzac | did you log in with the same user as runs mythtv? | 06:56 |
| superm1_ | well as of alpha 4 its the normal user | 06:56 |
| itzac | yup, just making sure there's nothing funny there | 06:56 |
| tgm4883_laptop | superm1_, would that differ though since the control centre brings up a root terminal? | 06:57 |
| itzac | it does? | 06:57 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yes | 06:57 |
| superm1_ | well i don't know, perhaps that is where an issue is stemming | 06:58 |
| superm1_ | only for gnome-screensaver-preferences would that matter | 06:58 |
| superm1_ | not for xset stuff | 06:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh | 06:58 |
| itzac | gnome-screensaver settings would be per user | 06:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | then maybe it will work for itzac | 06:58 |
| itzac | so you might want to su - user first | 06:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh, now I get cannot open display | 06:59 |
| itzac | and I don't know how to fix that | 06:59 |
| superm1_ | you have to do something like xhost + | 06:59 |
| itzac | maybe instead try ssh localhost -X -luser | 07:00 |
| itzac | it's a hack, but it'll get'er done | 07:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | im going to leave it activated but move it to 2 minutes and test it | 07:01 |
| itzac | clever guy | 07:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yay | 07:04 |
| tgm4883_laptop | did it right at 2 minutes | 07:04 |
| superm1_ | woah what happened with these gnome updates in gutsy. gnome just got prettier again | 07:05 |
| itzac | cool | 07:05 |
| itzac | I bet the code that shuts off the screensaver is still pointed at the mythtv user | 07:05 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | and itzac is not crazy either | 07:06 |
| superm1_ | well the code isn't dependent upon the user that is using it | 07:06 |
| itzac | nope | 07:06 |
| itzac | I'm too lazy to check the code out and look for myself, so I'll take your word for it | 07:12 |
| superm1_ | well the code is a minor patch to the existing xscreensaver code already in myth | 07:12 |
| superm1_ | to make it do similar causes to gnome-screensaver instead | 07:12 |
| itzac | in other oddities, my listings for today are off by 2 channels, but they fix themselves tomorrow | 07:12 |
| superm1_ | so there is no reason that it should be behaving weirdly | 07:12 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | heh, i have other oddities too | 07:13 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but maybe I AM crazy :) | 07:13 |
| itzac | I suppose mythtv has probably never actually had to run as a mythtv user | 07:13 |
| superm1_ | no, it's just been a matter of convenience/security and such | 07:13 |
| MnDBnDr | Hi All | 07:14 |
| itzac | Hi | 07:14 |
| itzac | I just trust my perimeter security. I go to great lenghts to secure that | 07:14 |
| MnDBnDr | I am installing alpha4 and am stuck at Proprietary video driver | 07:14 |
| itzac | I had that issue too | 07:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | !bug 167137 | 07:15 |
| MnDBnDr | ah | 07:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | !bug 137167 | 07:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137167 | 07:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh | 07:15 |
| MnDBnDr | so don't install the driver at install. install after initial install? | 07:18 |
| superm1_ | right | 07:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 07:18 |
| MnDBnDr | thx | 07:18 |
| itzac | either of you guys in canada? | 07:21 |
| MnDBnDr | eh? | 07:21 |
| itzac | I'm having problems getting the channel icons | 07:22 |
| itzac | invalid postal code | 07:22 |
| MnDBnDr | I am in Ohio | 07:22 |
| MnDBnDr | just on the other side of the lake | 07:22 |
| itzac | cool, I'm in Calgary, AB, so somewhat west of you | 07:22 |
| MnDBnDr | I am justs south of Cleveland | 07:23 |
| MnDBnDr | Is there a kernel-source package for alpha4? | 07:26 |
| foxbuntu | tgm4883_laptop, want a funny for your night? | 07:32 |
| foxbuntu | sudo apt-get moo | 07:32 |
| foxbuntu | (or anyone else interested in my bad humor) | 07:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | foxbuntu http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/manwoman.html | 07:33 |
| foxbuntu | yea | 07:33 |
| foxbuntu | I know | 07:33 |
| foxbuntu | superm1_, just sent me a bunch of those | 07:34 |
| foxbuntu | thats where I got moo | 07:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ha | 07:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I just got it from stumbleupon | 07:34 |
| foxbuntu | oh | 07:34 |
| foxbuntu | our favorite supported | 07:34 |
| foxbuntu | supporter | 07:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 07:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I decided to install it because of that | 07:34 |
| foxbuntu | although google is catching up now | 07:35 |
| foxbuntu | wow almost up to 2000 downloads < 1 week | 07:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | http://www.simpsonizeme.com/ | 07:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | wtf | 07:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | does this seem like a bad idea to anyone | 07:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | http://www.file-swap.com/ | 07:36 |
| foxbuntu | uh | 07:37 |
| foxbuntu | yeah for when i give you a virus in return | 07:38 |
| foxbuntu | ...wtf | 07:38 |
| foxbuntu | that stupid | 07:38 |
| tgm4883_laptop | thats exactly what I was thinking | 07:38 |
| foxbuntu | except for the random prono you might get | 07:41 |
| foxbuntu | although that might not be good either | 07:41 |
| foxbuntu | nix that project | 07:41 |
| itzac | that's teh aweXome | 07:45 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | no this one is awesome http://www.markeedragon.com/screenshots/data/3019/221.jpg | 07:55 |
| tgm4883_laptop | off to bed | 07:55 |
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| geek | anyone up at this moment? | 08:59 |
| geek | my mythtv database is not being updated | 08:59 |
| geek | it just tells me no new data found | 09:00 |
| geek | wtf | 09:04 |
| geek | hmm | 09:04 |
| geek | Resolving datadirect.webservices.zap2it.com... failed: Name or service not known | 09:04 |
| superm1_ | sounds like you've got dns problems | 09:05 |
| laga | re | 09:19 |
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| laga | hum | 09:27 |
| laga | looks like unionfs is still not fixed | 09:27 |
| laga | but hey, thats ok. its not like we need it or something | 09:28 |
| laga | or the people using the dailz liecd builds. | 09:28 |
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| denbeiren | hello | 10:35 |
| laga | morning | 10:35 |
| denbeiren | could anyone here help me out in configuring my technotrend DVB card? | 10:35 |
| laga | maybe. just ask a question :) | 10:36 |
| denbeiren | when i try to scan channels i get the error "error parsing ****" | 10:36 |
| laga | ? | 10:36 |
| laga | did you enter a transponder? | 10:36 |
| denbeiren | the * stands for something, but i can't remember it right now :( | 10:36 |
| denbeiren | i have the machine here next to me if you would be willing to guide me trough | 10:37 |
| laga | i can't guide you through it because i don't remember the details. you need to give it an initial transponder, including modulation and other params | 10:38 |
| laga | you can get those values from a channels.conf file | 10:38 |
| denbeiren | i have tried running setup a couple of times,.. but without success | 10:40 |
| denbeiren | is a transponder the same as the LNB? | 10:41 |
| laga | no | 10:41 |
| denbeiren | "error parsing parameters" wat the error,.. now i remember | 10:41 |
| laga | the transponder.. think of it as data stream on a given frequency which carries multiple channels | 10:41 |
| laga | yes | 10:41 |
| laga | because you didn't give an initial transponder | 10:41 |
| laga | you could try to import a channels.conf and "scan all existing transponders" | 10:42 |
| denbeiren | i am in mythtv setup now | 10:43 |
| denbeiren | i have my cardsettings | 10:43 |
| denbeiren | the card is recognised | 10:43 |
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| denbeiren | diseq settings are correct (as far as i know) | 10:43 |
| denbeiren | video sources, nothing | 10:44 |
| denbeiren | input connections,.. there i can scan for channels, but that gives me errors | 10:44 |
| Rimers | Hi guys :) | 10:44 |
| denbeiren | and channel editor | 10:45 |
| denbeiren | where do i make the settings for those transponders you were talking about? | 10:45 |
| laga | you enter them in the channel scanner window | 10:45 |
| laga | there are a bunch of empty fields. | 10:46 |
| laga | for frequency, modulation etc | 10:46 |
| denbeiren | yes i see those | 10:47 |
| laga | you need to enter something there. | 10:47 |
| denbeiren | freq is empty | 10:47 |
| denbeiren | so i have to enter every channel manually? | 10:47 |
| laga | no | 10:47 |
| laga | you have to enter one initial transponder. from that, it'll get all other transponders and the channels broadcast on those transponders | 10:48 |
| denbeiren | could i find a file somewhere that gives me all the transponders for astra 1 and astra 3 that i could import? | 10:49 |
| denbeiren | or could you give me the initial transponder? | 10:49 |
| directhex|work | "scan" from the dvb-utils package should work | 10:51 |
| directhex|work | or you could use lyngsat.com to get data if you really feel like it | 10:51 |
| denbeiren | dvb-utils? | 10:52 |
| denbeiren | do i have to download that? | 10:53 |
| directhex|work | it's probably already included in mythbuntu. though laga will probably correct me | 10:53 |
| denbeiren | if it is included,.. how would i start it up and/or use it? | 10:55 |
| directhex|work | erm... with "scan" and the associated parameters? | 10:55 |
| directhex|work | alternatively, assuming the package is installed (why not just check? O_o) you could make use of the sample files it already provides | 10:56 |
| directhex|work | such as /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E | 10:56 |
| denbeiren | because i am fairly new to linux and do not know where to find these things, and do not know how to load them | 10:57 |
| directhex|work | dpkg -l dvb-utils | 10:58 |
| directhex|work | "ii" means "installed & configured" | 10:58 |
| denbeiren | i do not have that package | 10:59 |
| denbeiren | installing now | 10:59 |
| denbeiren | ii is stated now | 10:59 |
| directhex|work | right. | 11:00 |
| directhex|work | Astra 1 is on 19.2E, and there happens to already be a file in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-s/ with the required frequency/transponder info in it | 11:00 |
| denbeiren | so i fill that "link" in where it sais import existing ...... | 11:01 |
| denbeiren | channels.conf import | 11:01 |
| directhex|work | run "scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E" and it'll create a channels.conf gile for you | 11:02 |
| directhex|work | or you could try copying /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/channels.conf-dvbs-astra.gz to somewhere like /tmp, extract it (it's compressed) and use that. i don't know if any of the channels in that file are appropriate though | 11:03 |
| denbeiren | the scanning is running in the terminal screen | 11:03 |
| denbeiren | In that dir i can find all of the sats? | 11:04 |
| directhex|work | some of them. they're just examples. | 11:06 |
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| denbeiren | so when the scanning is finished,.. do i have to do anything else, or are the channels going to be visible right away? | 11:08 |
| directhex|work | which scanning? with "scan"? no, scan is just a utility to generate a channels.conf file. so run scan, put the output from it into a file, and give mythtv that file as an initial channels.conf file - it should then be able to rescan & fill in any blanks by itself | 11:09 |
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| denbeiren | aha | 11:10 |
| denbeiren | the only thing then is how to save that output to a file, because the scan is finished, and i'm on the cursor now | 11:10 |
| deffcon | laga : the problem i had yesterday about " no menu text in mythtv" had to do with fonts --> the problem is solved now | 11:12 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, re-run it, and send the output to a file with > | 11:13 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, all unix commands have two types of output - STDOUT (for output) and STDERR (for errors). you can redirect either or both into a file (with > filename) or another program as input (with | appname) | 11:14 |
| denbeiren | so scan Astra-19.2E stdout (filename) ? | 11:18 |
| denbeiren | i'm sorry i don't know a whole lot about unixcommands | 11:19 |
| directhex|work | scan /path/to/scan/input/file > /path/to/outputfile | 11:24 |
| denbeiren | and save is as blabla.conf ? | 11:26 |
| directhex|work | yeah | 11:26 |
| directhex|work | there are also a lot of channels.conf examples on the net. you could google for channels.conf and the name of your satelite provider | 11:27 |
| denbeiren | can i load multiple .conf files, or do i have to merge them into one file? | 11:28 |
| directhex|work | you'd have to merge them, i suspect. i really don't know, i use dvb-t so the extra step of filling in all this transponder mumbo-jumbo isn't neccessary | 11:30 |
| denbeiren | there aren't a whole lot of flemish/dutch channels available here,.. so i have to use dbv-s | 11:31 |
| denbeiren | failed to parse the file :s | 11:32 |
| denbeiren | the file is there, and i can open it in the terminalscreen | 11:35 |
| denbeiren | what am i doing wrong here? | 11:35 |
| laga | i suggest we start a table for initial transponders in a wiki somewhere | 11:46 |
| laga | or add them to those dro-down menus in mythtv (currently only available for dvb-t) | 11:46 |
| directhex|work | laga, yes! | 11:46 |
| laga | yes to what? | 11:47 |
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| directhex|work | laga, really? 0.20.2 or trunk? | 11:49 |
| denbeiren | i'm on amd64 as well | 11:49 |
| laga | directhex|work: trunk | 11:49 |
| laga | i have yet to install mythtv | 11:49 |
| laga | well, rather: make packages for amd64 | 11:49 |
| directhex|work | okay, when someone has myth on amd64, can they test something for me? | 11:49 |
| denbeiren | i can | 11:49 |
| laga | depends | 11:49 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, are you on trunk or 0.20.2? | 11:50 |
| denbeiren | absolutely no idea | 11:50 |
| denbeiren | mythbuntu | 11:50 |
| laga | that's 0.20.2 | 11:50 |
| denbeiren | gutsy | 11:50 |
| denbeiren | but no further knowledge | 11:51 |
| directhex|work | okay. can you install the "build-essential" and "libfuse-dev" packages? | 11:51 |
| denbeiren | installing build | 11:52 |
| directhex|work | download http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/djmount/djmount-0.71.tar.gz and extract it to /tmp | 11:53 |
| directhex|work | djmount is a basic way of viewing UPnP media shares. UPnP in theory makes sharing media across different apps on a network trivial. in practice, i think mythtv's implementation is broken on amd64 | 11:54 |
| denbeiren | could you give me the exact terminalcommands please? it would be so much faster | 11:54 |
| directhex|work | cd /tmp && wget http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/djmount/djmount-0.71.tar.gz && cd djmount* && ./configure && mak | 11:54 |
| directhex|work | e | 11:54 |
| directhex|work | that's make at the end, not mak | 11:54 |
| laga | forgot to extract it? | 11:54 |
| directhex|work | whoops | 11:55 |
| directhex|work | let's try again | 11:55 |
| directhex|work | cd /tmp && wget http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/djmount/djmount-0.71.tar.gz && tar zxvf djmount* && cd djmount* && ./configure && make | 11:55 |
| directhex|work | should spend about 90 seconds on the "configure" bit, 32 seconds on the "make" bit | 11:55 |
| denbeiren | installing libdev | 11:56 |
| denbeiren | running your command | 11:57 |
| denbeiren | anything else? | 11:58 |
| directhex|work | yeah. did that all finish? | 11:58 |
| denbeiren | yes | 11:58 |
| directhex|work | okay. run "cd djmount && mkdir testy && sudo modprobe fuse && sudo ./djmount testy" | 11:59 |
| denbeiren | done | 12:00 |
| directhex|work | there's now a folder called "testy". if your mythtv backend is running, then there should be a subfolder for the mythtv machine inside it | 12:00 |
| directhex|work | i.e. "ls testy" will show something like "MythTV AV UPnP Server" | 12:01 |
| laga | ffs. | 12:01 |
| directhex|work | laga, ? | 12:01 |
| denbeiren | devices mediacenter: MythTV AV Media Server | 12:01 |
| laga | directhex|work: you were right. the kde control center f'ed up cups config | 12:01 |
| directhex|work | laga, i'm ALWAYS right! | 12:01 |
| laga | heh | 12:01 |
| laga | i added it in localhost:631 and it works like a charm | 12:02 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, okay. now do "ls -a testy/*" - if my hunch is right, the only thing in the "mediacenter: MythTV AV Media Server" folder should be a single file | 12:02 |
| laga | alright, it's a bit too black and white for my taste, but at least i can print. | 12:02 |
| denbeiren | denbeiren@mediacenter:/tmp/djmount-0.71/djmount$ sudo ls -a testy/ | 12:03 |
| denbeiren | . .. .debug devices mediacenter: MythTV AV Media Server | 12:03 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, don't forget the * at the end - otherwise it'll not look INSIDE that folder | 12:04 |
| denbeiren | ls: testy/*: No such file or directory | 12:04 |
| directhex|work | erm... odd | 12:05 |
| directhex|work | okay, do "cd testy/med<TAB>" i.e. start typing and hit the tab key to fill in the blanks | 12:05 |
| denbeiren | sudo cd testy/med | 12:06 |
| directhex|work | don't use sudo for this | 12:07 |
| denbeiren | -bash: cd: testy/med: Permission denied | 12:07 |
| directhex|work | bleh | 12:07 |
| directhex|work | okay, do "sudo bash" to get a full root session | 12:07 |
| directhex|work | THEN do "cd testy/med<TAB>" | 12:08 |
| denbeiren | cd testy/mediacenter\:\ MythTV\ AV\ Media\ Server/ | 12:08 |
| denbeiren | this one? | 12:08 |
| directhex|work | yes | 12:08 |
| directhex|work | hit enter, you should be in that folder. now do "ls -a" | 12:09 |
| denbeiren | . .. .status | 12:09 |
| directhex|work | okay, so far so good (well, so bad, but it would mean you have the same behaviour as me" | 12:10 |
| directhex|work | now do "grep Result .status" | 12:10 |
| directhex|work | if i'm right, it should say " | +- Result = -104 (UPNP_E_OUTOF_MEMOR)" | 12:10 |
| denbeiren | | +- Result = -104 (UPNP_E_OUTOF_MEMOR) | 12:11 |
| directhex|work | okay, confirmation! time to report a bug. laga! you want this in launchpad, or shall i send it straight to mythtv trac? | 12:12 |
| laga | directhex|work: this should go to trac | 12:12 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, thanks for your time. now run "cd && fusermount -u /tmp/djmount*/djmount/testy && logout" to go back to normal | 12:13 |
| denbeiren | bash: logout: not login shell: use `exit' | 12:14 |
| directhex|work | okay, there's that tool | 12:14 |
| directhex|work | i tend to use ctrl-d | 12:15 |
| directhex|work | which is quicker | 12:15 |
| laga | hum, sound is still broken here. blah. | 12:15 |
| directhex|work | laga, you don't happen to keep channel logs do you? | 12:15 |
| laga | !logs | 12:15 |
| ubotu | Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | 12:15 |
| denbeiren | -bash: /bin/fusermount: Permission denied | 12:16 |
| directhex|work | laga, nothing after 18th august! | 12:17 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, use sudo | 12:17 |
| denbeiren | sudo: cd: command not found | 12:17 |
| laga | directhex|work: ok, what do you need? | 12:17 |
| denbeiren | already tried it | 12:17 |
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| directhex|work | laga, i pastebinned something within the last week relating to upnp (complete output from .status). a grep for pastebin.ca, grepped again for "hex" would probably find it | 12:19 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, "cd && sudo fusermount -u /tmp/djmount*/djmount/testy" | 12:19 |
| denbeiren | umount: /tmp/djmount-0.71/djmount/testy: not mounted | 12:20 |
| laga | directhex|work: nothing :// | 12:20 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, okay, you should be fine then | 12:20 |
| denbeiren | is everything deleted and uninstalled as well? | 12:20 |
| directhex|work | laga, bleh. is there any point in submitting a bug before this evening then? :/ | 12:21 |
| laga | *shrug* | 12:21 |
| laga | gotta keep your logs :) | 12:21 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, anything in /tmp is deleted every time you boot. as for build-essential and libfuse-dev, you could remove them if you wanted to. build-essential is useful to have around though | 12:21 |
| denbeiren | ok | 12:21 |
| denbeiren | so could you help me out in that channel.conf file ? pretty please :) | 12:22 |
| denbeiren | how do i merge these two files? astra192.conf astra282.conf | 12:23 |
| directhex|work | cat astra*.conf >> merged.conf | 12:23 |
| directhex|work | and make sure you give myth the full /path/to/the/file.conf since it might not be looking in the same folder as you | 12:23 |
| denbeiren | and now for the loading of the file,.. | 12:23 |
| denbeiren | i still get errors :s | 12:24 |
| denbeiren | (/home/denbeiren/merged) | 12:24 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, is the file called merged or merged.conf? | 12:25 |
| denbeiren | merged.conf | 12:25 |
| directhex|work | then you have to say merged.conf | 12:25 |
| denbeiren | failed to parse merged.conf | 12:26 |
| directhex|work | okay, can you put the contents of the file onto a site like pastebin.ca ? | 12:26 |
| denbeiren | http://pastebin.ca/703067 | 12:28 |
| denbeiren | any ideas? | 12:32 |
| laga | is that all? | 12:33 |
| denbeiren | i only selected a part of it | 12:34 |
| denbeiren | i used nano,.. but i can't scroll trough the output with that | 12:35 |
| denbeiren | which command lets me scroll trough everything, so i can select it all? | 12:35 |
| ubotu | New bug: #106881 in ivtv (multiverse) "IVTV output choppy and flickers" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106881 | 12:35 |
| directhex|work | denbeiren, cat | 12:39 |
| denbeiren | http://pastebin.ca/703077 | 12:42 |
| denbeiren | any helpful info? | 12:49 |
| Rimers | denbeiren: does it work with one of the none merged channel files? | 12:53 |
| denbeiren | wouldn't it be easier if you could just select from a dropdownlist of sattelites there? | 12:53 |
| denbeiren | no same problem | 12:53 |
| Rimers | hmm okay, | 12:53 |
| Rimers | let me check here, think i have a .conf file for astra here somwhere | 12:53 |
| denbeiren | k | 12:54 |
| Rimers | hmm,, no luck on this pc, let me just try to get a remote console on the media pc | 12:57 |
| denbeiren | i would like to have astra 19.2 and astra 28.x | 12:58 |
| Rimers | okay, i would only have 19.2 due to my dish setup here though | 12:59 |
| denbeiren | k | 12:59 |
| Rimers | hmm seems there is a network problem at home, i cant connect to the media pc :S | 12:59 |
| denbeiren | could you email the file to me perhaps later? | 12:59 |
| Rimers | sure, drop me a mail on nils@rimestad.net and ill send it when i get home | 01:00 |
| Rimers | have you tried to tune in using szap? | 01:01 |
| denbeiren | no, i do not know what that is :s | 01:01 |
| Rimers | okay, try following : szap -c merged.conf -n 1 | 01:02 |
| Rimers | that should tune in in the first channel in the merged.conf file | 01:03 |
| denbeiren | it's running | 01:03 |
| Rimers | you should get some info on the connection if i remember correctly | 01:03 |
| denbeiren | when this is finished,.. what do i do then? | 01:03 |
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| Rimers | it should keep running with the info untill you stop it with a CTRL+C | 01:04 |
| Rimers | try in another console session : dvbdate that should get the date from the channel you tuned into | 01:05 |
| Rimers | if it works that is :) | 01:05 |
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| denbeiren | .... | 01:09 |
| denbeiren | and then the date | 01:09 |
| denbeiren | Wed Sep 19 13:08:54 2007 | 01:10 |
| Rimers | hmm okay, then there should be no problem with the merged.conf file | 01:10 |
| denbeiren | but i get an error | 01:11 |
| denbeiren | can't parse merged.conf | 01:11 |
| Rimers | hmm okay | 01:11 |
| Rimers | ill search on, ill write when i find somthing, but it could be a little while | 01:13 |
| denbeiren | i'll send you a mail,.. let me know something when you've found it | 01:14 |
| denbeiren | mail sent | 01:15 |
| Rimers | okay, will do | 01:15 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #140940 in lirc (main) "ati_remote.ko not unloaded during configure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140940 | 01:40 |
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| [_Trimble_] | woot I got my wireless card working after fresh install from iso without having to install gui | 02:48 |
| [_Trimble_] | :) | 02:48 |
| [_Trimble_] | whoa.. this time the prebuilt samba shares for video, music, pictures and recordings already works | 02:50 |
| [_Trimble_] | yup - copied some video and mp3 into it, and it plays :) | 02:57 |
| [_Trimble_] | sweet :) | 02:57 |
| frink_ | Anybody know why lirc breaks? | 03:07 |
| frink_ | lircd-0.8.2[12789] : default_init(): No such file or directory | 03:07 |
| frink_ | lircd-0.8.2[12789] : caught signal | 03:07 |
| frink_ | Terminated | 03:07 |
| frink_ | that happens when I start irw | 03:07 |
| [_Trimble_] | no idea :( | 03:07 |
| frink_ | hmm for some reason /dev/lirc0 is what it should be | 03:14 |
| === frink_ symlinks | ||
| frink_ | lovely | 03:20 |
| frink_ | now my remote woks | 03:20 |
| frink_ | my wife will owe me lots of sex tonight | 03:20 |
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| DaveMorris | lol | 03:49 |
| laga | frink_: file a bug please | 03:54 |
| [_Trimble_] | whoa whoa, you can earn sex by fixing a woman's remote? | 03:59 |
| directhex|work | [_Trimble_] , remote for what though?... | 03:59 |
| laga | if you're married: yes | 03:59 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol | 03:59 |
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| laga | superm1_: looks like there's a beta 3 for falcon 2 with buildd support. i hope it's an official one this time ;) | 04:23 |
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| [_Trimble_] | god this whole thing runs so much smoother than the knoppmyth version | 05:17 |
| laga | how so | 05:18 |
| [_Trimble_] | everything just works :) | 05:18 |
| laga | heh | 05:18 |
| laga | still needs some polishing, IMHO | 05:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | i was never able to get wireless network working on knoppmyth.. lirc needed to be compiled, and the headers weren't even on the iso... | 05:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | screen fonts were screwy... | 05:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | etc.. | 05:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | muthbuntu even setup 4 CIFS shares so i can push or pull data right onto the machine | 05:20 |
| laga | i've just installed mythtv usind the control centre on gutsy | 05:20 |
| [_Trimble_] | i used the 7.10 mythbuntu iso | 05:20 |
| laga | since i haven't worked on the controlc entre, i'm allowed to say that it's a great thing | 05:20 |
| laga | i just wish sound was working :) | 05:21 |
| laga | kernel's a bit broken here | 05:21 |
| [_Trimble_] | my sounds is working fine. i just need to adjust the alsa mixer to move sound to the right jack | 05:21 |
| [_Trimble_] | my machine has an internal speaker, and all the sound is coming out there hehehe | 05:22 |
| laga | great :) | 05:22 |
| tgm4883 | laga, still the same sound troubles? | 05:22 |
| tgm4883 | I have some sound issues too, but mine are strange (as most my troubles are) | 05:22 |
| laga | tgm4883: yes. now i can't get around it by rebuilding linux-ubuntu-modules because it gets built for i386. | 05:22 |
| laga | although i to dell it to build amd64 :/ | 05:22 |
| laga | tgm4883: i just have a broken kernel module | 05:22 |
| tgm4883 | mine appears to jump devices. Periodically I have to go and change what audio device mythtv is using otherwise I get no sound | 05:23 |
| laga | odd :/ | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | yep | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | I found this out yesterday and wanted to see it happen a few more time before I file a bug report | 05:24 |
| laga | alright, finally need to my application for college ready | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | you know, to make sure im not crazy | 05:24 |
| laga | oh no worries | 05:24 |
| laga | you are not crazy *cough* | 05:24 |
| tgm4883 | of course im not crazy | 05:25 |
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| laga | uh | 05:25 |
| laga | thanks | 05:25 |
| laga | that's given me a nice mental image for when i_'m filling out the forms | 05:25 |
| foxbuntu_ | lol...I make my first look over at the irc window for the morning and find that comment | 05:26 |
| tgm4883 | just write at the top, I know tgm4883, they will probably just give you a degree right then | 05:26 |
| Daviey | foxbuntu_: same here! | 05:26 |
| tgm4883 | I aim to please ;) | 05:26 |
| Daviey | tgm4883: I can imagine - but just for fun, can you supply a pic? | 05:26 |
| tgm4883 | sorry, my camera is all covered in..... | 05:27 |
| tgm4883 | there is something wrong with this paint. it tastes funny | 05:27 |
| Daviey | ... it's camera case? | 05:27 |
| foxbuntu_ | POO! | 05:27 |
| Daviey | foxbuntu_ & tgm4883, add a pic to your LP profile :) | 05:28 |
| Daviey | and laga ^ | 05:28 |
| tgm4883 | any pic? or does it need to be provocative | 05:29 |
| Daviey | currently we look like a right bunch of geeks | 05:29 |
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| Daviey | With starwars pics, instead of faces! | 05:29 |
| tgm4883 | we are a bunch of geeks | 05:30 |
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| === Daviey points out that he has the power to kick people out of the LP team ;) | ||
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| tgm4883 | everybody wants a picture of foxbuntu. I just pulled the one of him off americas most wanted | 05:36 |
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| foxbuntu_ | tgm4883, don't tell people about that | 05:37 |
| tgm4883 | sorry forgot :) | 05:38 |
| [_Trimble_] | good lord.. ripping a music CD is freakin slow | 05:38 |
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| Daviey | foxbuntu_: I'll put you in the 'keep' pile, and tgm4883 in the other | 05:38 |
| tgm4883 | :( | 05:39 |
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| tgm4883 | i'll show them | 05:39 |
| Daviey | When somebody has an email address @gingermagic.com - can you take their email seriously? | 05:40 |
| tgm4883 | is his name Damian? | 05:41 |
| Daviey | yus | 05:41 |
| Daviey | *.co.uk | 05:41 |
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| tgm4883 | perhaps he is a great magician | 05:41 |
| CBiLL | Good Morning folks | 05:41 |
| Daviey | tgm4883: he is | 05:41 |
| Daviey | http://www.gingermagic.com/ | 05:41 |
| tgm4883 | interesting | 05:41 |
| === tgm4883 's evil plan is working | ||
| Daviey | "Damian has performed his own brand of 'gingermagic' everywhere from small private parties" .... does it sound rude? | 05:42 |
| tgm4883 | now to send email from thymemagic, and paprikamagic | 05:42 |
| tgm4883 | interesting | 05:43 |
| tgm4883 | so what is gingermagic? | 05:43 |
| CBiLL | close up magic I think | 05:43 |
| tgm4883 | I thought if I clicked on it that it would tell me | 05:44 |
| tgm4883 | not so | 05:44 |
| Daviey | "Absolutely breathtaking. I have no idea how you managed...." | 05:44 |
| Daviey | "I've seen things like that on TV, but always assumed it was some kind of camera trick." | 05:44 |
| Daviey | You'd think it's NSFW | 05:44 |
| CBiLL | stuff on tv is always camera trick | 05:44 |
| Daviey | "Thanks again Damian. You always bring something special to our evenings." | 05:45 |
| Daviey | tgm4883: Is the news in the US showing the Kerry incident? | 05:46 |
| CBiLL | naw .. it's OJ again | 05:47 |
| Daviey | orange juice? | 05:47 |
| CBiLL | yup | 05:47 |
| foxbuntu_ | lol | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | yea they talk about it | 05:47 |
| CBiLL | we USA folks are dumb you knkow | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | and about OJ | 05:47 |
| Daviey | CBiLL: I did know that :D | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | more about OJ though cause he's the juice | 05:47 |
| foxbuntu_ | Daviey, OJ Simpson killed someone again or something | 05:47 |
| laga | and robbed | 05:47 |
| laga | and kidnapped | 05:47 |
| Daviey | foxbuntu_: erm i thought it was armed robbery? | 05:47 |
| laga | etc | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | no it's just kidnapping right now | 05:47 |
| laga | Daviey: i won't put a pic in launchpad, not everybody has to know what i look like | 05:48 |
| foxbuntu_ | Daviey, eh whatever...I just changed the channel when I heard OJ was in the news again | 05:48 |
| Daviey | laga: We won't laugh at you for being butt ugly | 05:48 |
| tgm4883 | How do you get away with killing 2 people and then go to jail for life years later for robbing and kidnapping? | 05:48 |
| foxbuntu_ | I will | 05:48 |
| foxbuntu_ | :P | 05:48 |
| CBiLL | he was loaded back then | 05:49 |
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| laga | Daviey: bah | 05:49 |
| CBiLL | now he don't got the cash for lawyers | 05:49 |
| frink_ | laga: izzit that you are ugly? | 05:49 |
| laga | uh, not | 05:49 |
| tgm4883 | geez guys you gonna give him a complex | 05:49 |
| laga | just paranoia or a sense of privacy :) | 05:49 |
| tgm4883 | it's ok laga, we don't need a pictures. A sample of your DNA will suffice | 05:50 |
| Daviey | laga: I purposly put mine at a rubbish resolution so people coun't upscale it :) | 05:50 |
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| laga | oh, ask the government for that | 05:50 |
| === laga searching for a picture where he's not drunk or half-naked | ||
| Daviey | half naked is good | 05:50 |
| laga | Daviey: what's your LP name again? :) | 05:50 |
| Daviey | la | 05:50 |
| Daviey | laga: davewalker | 05:50 |
| laga | zomg | 05:51 |
| CBiLL | hey laga! .. still working good here .. no flickering since you told me to change resolution | 05:51 |
| Daviey | laga: sexy as hell eh? | 05:51 |
| laga | yup | 05:51 |
| laga | CBiLL: great | 05:51 |
| laga | oh, looks like my old GF deleted her pictures off my server | 05:53 |
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| Daviey | hometime \o/ | 05:59 |
| laga | yay | 06:00 |
| laga | indeed, i dont have any suitable pics o_O | 06:00 |
| laga | gf's got some decent ones, amybe i'll post some later | 06:00 |
| frink_ | anybdy know how to disable the screen blancer? | 06:09 |
| frink_ | blanker? | 06:09 |
| frink_ | blancker | 06:09 |
| tgm4883 | frink_, is it happening during watching tv? | 06:10 |
| CBiLL | suspend screen mode 8=P but blanker is cute | 06:10 |
| tgm4883 | and what exactly is happening. does it instantly go blank or does it slowly fade out? | 06:10 |
| tgm4883 | CBiLL, it could be the screensaver | 06:10 |
| CBiLL | true | 06:11 |
| CBiLL | 8-) | 06:11 |
| tgm4883 | maybe it was a trick question | 06:13 |
| frink_ | tgm4883: yup | 06:15 |
| frink_ | nope instant blank | 06:15 |
| frink_ | move mouse and it comes back | 06:15 |
| tgm4883 | ah instant blank | 06:15 |
| tgm4883 | CBiLL ftw | 06:15 |
| tgm4883 | I'll let him take this one then | 06:15 |
| frink_ | i had a problm with lirc too | 06:16 |
| frink_ | it expected /dev/lirc and there was /dev/lirc0 instead | 06:16 |
| frink_ | i synlinked them for now | 06:16 |
| frink_ | i was doing a manual lirc setup for a rs232 ir receiver and hauppauge remote (working now) | 06:16 |
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| laga | frink_: file a bug? | 06:41 |
| frink_ | laga: I think thee already is one | 06:56 |
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| superm1 | laga, re unionfs that fix that i pinged you about hasn't been released yet | 07:03 |
| superm1 | hopefully soon though | 07:03 |
| laga | didn't notice you pinged me about a fix | 07:03 |
| superm1 | oh let me grab you it | 07:03 |
| superm1 | consequences of not having a big enough scroll back | 07:03 |
| laga | :/ | 07:04 |
| superm1 | laga, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=commit;h=435c10811fc81d371a1ac385d4a9be590f9a1861 | 07:04 |
| laga | /msg helps :P | 07:04 |
| laga | thanks | 07:04 |
| laga | it's about time | 07:04 |
| laga | arrrr | 07:04 |
| superm1 | well i had a tcl plugin for xchat that would capture any highlights and the surrounding conversation and put it into a /msg | 07:04 |
| superm1 | but it was getting annoying | 07:04 |
| laga | true | 07:05 |
| superm1 | you can watch for summary of changes to linux-ubuntu-modules here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=summary | 07:06 |
| superm1 | hopefully they will be tagging 2.6.22-11.29 soon | 07:06 |
| laga | hopefully they'll be rebuild linux-ubuntu-modules for rt soon | 07:07 |
| laga | there was an ABI change | 07:07 |
| laga | i know this is an open source project and i'm not in the position to demand anything | 07:08 |
| laga | but i *gently caress*ing wish my bugs would be fixed faster. | 07:08 |
| superm1 | <superm1> Hi guys, is there a plan as to when 2.6.22-11.29 is going to be tagged? Is there a schedule for these sorts of things to watch? | 07:08 |
| superm1 | <superm1> (for linux-ubuntu-modules this is) | 07:08 |
| superm1 | <rtg> superm1: It should get uploaded in the next day or so. | 07:08 |
| laga | ah, cool | 07:08 |
| laga | MythPython is a plugin, which allows you to create other | 07:10 |
| laga | gui-based plugins for mythtv using the script-language python. | 07:10 |
| laga | This plugin makes it possible to create much easier plugins to watch for | 07:10 |
| laga | example videos from youtube or form the apple trailer database. | 07:10 |
| laga | w00t! | 07:10 |
| laga | i need to learn python | 07:10 |
| frink_ | me too | 07:14 |
| frink_ | how about you learn it for both of us and i'll tell you what i need codeing and u code it for me | 07:14 |
| frink_ | hey superm1 | 07:15 |
| frink_ | superm1: Did you mention some screensaver/screenblanker bug the other day? | 07:15 |
| laga | superm1: btw, sorry for finding another bug in lirc ;) | 07:16 |
| frink_ | laga: what bug did you find? | 07:16 |
| laga | ah, just a module that needed blacklisting | 07:17 |
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| frink_ | ok | 07:22 |
| tgm4883 | wtf | 07:23 |
| tgm4883 | i swear users are getting stupider | 07:23 |
| laga | not possible. | 07:23 |
| tgm4883 | wanna bet | 07:23 |
| tgm4883 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3391584&posted=1#post3391584 | 07:24 |
| tgm4883 | either stupider or lazier | 07:24 |
| laga | oh, _ubuntu_ users :) | 07:24 |
| tgm4883 | yes, that wasn't directed at anyone in here | 07:24 |
| laga | heh | 07:24 |
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| laga | "What works in 32-bit also works in 64-bit. Anyone that says otherwise is a liar" | 07:25 |
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| laga | nice line. | 07:25 |
| tgm4883 | thx | 07:25 |
| frink_ | if i just kill gnome-screensaver will anything break do you think? | 07:25 |
| tgm4883 | i wanted to lace it with profanities, but morals got the better of me | 07:25 |
| laga | i'd like to note that a 64biit libc6 does not work well wihenthe rest of your system is 32bit | 07:25 |
| tgm4883 | frink_ why do you want to kill it? | 07:25 |
| frink_ | tgm4883: because it (presumably) keeps blanking the screen and why ever would I want a screensaver on a PVR? | 07:26 |
| tgm4883 | CBiLL didn't get back to you? | 07:26 |
| laga | frink_: because your nice plasma might get burn-in | 07:26 |
| tgm4883 | sorry, i thoung he was going to answer you | 07:26 |
| tgm4883 | I was actually thinking your problem was dpms | 07:27 |
| tgm4883 | not gnome screensaver | 07:27 |
| laga | yeah, PMs is the devil | 07:27 |
| frink_ | laga: Well there is that and yeah, I guess it would be nicer if it were on and just didnt blank the screen during video play or livetv | 07:27 |
| frink_ | tgm4883: Yeah it actually did look like a dpms blank | 07:28 |
| frink_ | tgm4883: But I thought I would kill the screensaver and see if it stopped anyway. | 07:28 |
| tgm4883 | gnome screensaver is more of a fade to black | 07:28 |
| tgm4883 | I had that problem yesterday | 07:28 |
| tgm4883 | you can test and disable it from the command line | 07:30 |
| tgm4883 | but not from ssh in | 07:30 |
| tgm4883 | xset -dpms | 07:32 |
| frink_ | why not from ssh? | 07:32 |
| tgm4883 | it wont work | 07:34 |
| tgm4883 | im not sure why, thats just what superm1 tells me and im too lazy to look it up ;) | 07:34 |
| laga | DISPLAY=:0 ? | 07:35 |
| [_Trimble_] | WTF? | 07:35 |
| [_Trimble_] | 20 minutes into the first episode of Transformers... all the autobots are FLYING. | 07:36 |
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| [_Trimble_] | hi superm1 :) | 07:45 |
| superm1 | hi [_Trimble_] | 07:46 |
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| [_Trimble_] | i have a question that's bugging me, superm1. perhaps you know the answer | 07:47 |
| superm1 | what's that? | 07:47 |
| [_Trimble_] | can autobots fly? specifically optimus prime? | 07:47 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol | 07:48 |
| superm1 | um can't say i know the answer to that one | 07:48 |
| [_Trimble_] | i'm kidding lol | 07:48 |
| superm1 | haha | 07:48 |
| [_Trimble_] | i'm testing mythvideo with episode 1 of transformers, and in the very first ever episode, optimus prime is clearly flying | 07:48 |
| superm1 | figured as much | 07:48 |
| tgm4883_laptop | gasp shock | 07:48 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh, maybe one of these days my display brightness will work correctly | 07:50 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | hi guest60 | 07:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | bye guest60 | 07:52 |
| superm1 | bug 138915 | 07:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138915 in linux-source-2.6.22 "unionfs NULL pointer dereference in 2.6.22-11.32" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138915 | 07:56 |
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| MythbuntuGuest66 | How can I change the screen resolution in MythBuntu? It selected a very high resolution, which I want to decrease (it's a backend, which I'm accessing via remote desktop) | 08:02 |
| laga | MythbuntuGuest66: hum. | 08:03 |
| laga | "remote desktop"? vnc? | 08:03 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | actually, it's VMware Server console. | 08:03 |
| laga | oh. | 08:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | I'm testing putting my backend within a VM, talking to MySQL in another VM, with a remote frontend on a Mac Mini | 08:04 |
| laga | well, if you're logged in to X, you can run start xorg-config from mythbutnu-control-centre | 08:04 |
| laga | MythbuntuGuest66: how are you accessing your capture cards? | 08:04 |
| superm1 | wow that's an interesting setup | 08:04 |
| superm1 | yeah how are capture cards going to work? | 08:05 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | I'm using an HDHomeRun | 08:05 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | (network based ATSC/QAM256 HD reception) | 08:06 |
| superm1 | ah that would make sense | 08:06 |
| laga | ah | 08:06 |
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| MythbuntuGuest66 | For some reason, the "Launch Xorg Config" button is grayed out in control center | 08:10 |
| superm1 | MythbuntuGuest66, you have to apt-get update/apt-get upgrade | 08:11 |
| superm1 | there is a newer control centre | 08:11 |
| superm1 | and then install displayconfig-gtk | 08:11 |
| superm1 | lots has changed since the last alpha | 08:11 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | ahh.. great, I'll try that. | 08:11 |
| superm1 | we're looking to have a new disk very soon that will reflect it all | 08:11 |
| laga | superm1: still alpha? | 08:12 |
| superm1 | laga, i'm not sure if i want to call the next one beta | 08:12 |
| superm1 | i want to see how well the xfce stuff works out | 08:12 |
| superm1 | and DaveMorris has to commit the changes for it yet | 08:12 |
| laga | ah, right | 08:12 |
| laga | and gutsy is still alpha, too | 08:12 |
| laga | and personally, i do notice that. :) | 08:12 |
| laga | btw, you were gonna elaborate on debconf.py. | 08:13 |
| superm1 | but comparatively, we are following the gutsy cycle | 08:13 |
| superm1 | so we really should be very close to beta too | 08:13 |
| superm1 | laga, okay so regarding debconf.py, you have to either implement a full debconf frontend in your app | 08:14 |
| superm1 | similar to what ubiquity does | 08:14 |
| superm1 | or you have to call a noninteractive frontend | 08:14 |
| superm1 | which i was doing for a bit in mythbuntu-live-autostart | 08:14 |
| superm1 | i dont recall if i'm still doing that | 08:14 |
| laga | hum | 08:14 |
| superm1 | and when you call the noninteractive frontend, it forks back into your app (is my understanding) | 08:14 |
| superm1 | so it is then the parent process | 08:14 |
| laga | that's above my head. i'll put it on the back burner... | 08:15 |
| superm1 | so what really *should* be done for us i think is to write a shell script that will be passed a heck of a lot of parameters to update all the debconf stuff that gets changed by the control-centre | 08:15 |
| superm1 | because then you figure you can pass all those debconf questions like remote frontends, mythweb, lirc changes | 08:16 |
| superm1 | either way if that isnt done, something needs to be figured out before release | 08:16 |
| superm1 | or suddenly people are going to be presented with a question during an apt-get update out of the blue | 08:16 |
| laga | hum. | 08:18 |
| laga | and what so bad about using debconf-communicate | 08:19 |
| superm1 | well if you can find a way to stop the debconf frontend | 08:19 |
| superm1 | more power to you there | 08:19 |
| superm1 | i just know i ran into the issue of not being able to | 08:19 |
| laga | uh | 08:20 |
| laga | is it it a locking problem? | 08:20 |
| superm1 | yes | 08:21 |
| superm1 | since you cant stop the debconf frontend | 08:21 |
| superm1 | debconf is locked | 08:21 |
| laga | i'm not sure if i understand. do you mean - if a debconf frontend is already running, eg spawned by dpkg, i can't open a new one? | 08:22 |
| superm1 | right | 08:24 |
| superm1 | and if you start one via the control centre, you can't start dpkg | 08:24 |
| laga | debconf-communicate | 08:25 |
| laga | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable | 08:25 |
| laga | alright. | 08:25 |
| laga | but i dont understand why i'd have to stop the other debconf process. i mean, it's there for a reason - why can't i say "sorry, debconf is busy, please close dpkg and apt-get"? | 08:25 |
| superm1 | well apt is used by the control centre | 08:26 |
| superm1 | to install things | 08:26 |
| laga | oh, so it's locked all the time when the control centre is run? | 08:27 |
| superm1 | well there are two stages | 08:28 |
| superm1 | one where all the packages are installed | 08:28 |
| superm1 | and its locked there | 08:28 |
| superm1 | and then the one when everything else is done | 08:28 |
| laga | i still don't know why we have to do things with debconf while it's locked | 08:30 |
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| superm1 | well you don't | 08:32 |
| superm1 | but the problem is that you can't stop the debconf process | 08:32 |
| laga | the one i'm spawning? | 08:32 |
| superm1 | well if your spawning it like how i was | 08:32 |
| superm1 | then you won't be able to | 08:32 |
| laga | it stops automagically here | 08:33 |
| superm1 | take a look at this: http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-live-autostart/annotate/supermario%40portablemario-20070730052503-oehdpcngrnc7193p?file_id=mythbuntustartup-20070712081233-9hl417m08aey045i-1 | 08:33 |
| laga | flood | 08:34 |
| laga | laga@prometheus:~/dev/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre$ echo "get debconf/frontend" | debconf-communicate | 08:34 |
| superm1 | line 18 and 19 | 08:34 |
| laga | debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied | 08:34 |
| laga | 0 Dialog | 08:34 |
| laga | laga@prometheus:~/dev/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-control-centre$ | 08:34 |
| superm1 | okay so your not launching it via python though | 08:34 |
| superm1 | or debconf.yp more specifically | 08:34 |
| laga | yes | 08:34 |
| superm1 | well that will work fine | 08:34 |
| laga | debconf.py is launching debconf-communicate, btw. | 08:34 |
| superm1 | but has nothing to do with 'import debconf' | 08:34 |
| laga | in class DebconfCommunicator | 08:35 |
| laga | if you import DebconfCommunicator from debconf, it has | 08:35 |
| laga | which is was ubiquity/frontend/base.py is doing AFAIK | 08:36 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Thanks for the tips.. I updated & installed displayconfig-gtk. I was able to change my resolution somewhat.. Most choices resulted in an application crash, when it did change I would restart X and it would display at a different resolution. Very Odd... | 08:38 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | To clarify: it was displayconfig-gtk that was crashing, not mythbuntu-control-center | 08:40 |
| laga | yeah, some things in gutsy just make you shake your head | 08:40 |
| laga | and i'm not talking about the heavy metal way here | 08:40 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | yup. But, a quick trip to vi to edit xorg.conf gets me back to a decent resolution. | 08:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Shoulda just done that in the first place. | 08:43 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Mythbuntu looks promising. But, for my backend-only needs, I think I will end up going with a server oriented distro. | 08:44 |
| Daviey | MythbuntuGuest66: why? | 08:45 |
| laga | ubuntu is server-oriented. | 08:45 |
| Daviey | MythbuntuGuest66: Ubuntu can be server oriented | 08:45 |
| laga | just dont install the gui crap, sudo aptitude install mythtv-backend-master and you're done | 08:45 |
| Daviey | And.. if you mix & match distro's - the packages could mismatch, come up date time | 08:46 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | The setup seems to assume HTPC frontend orientation.. I can see how it would greatly simplify setup for a frontend or combined back/front. But for my needs, the pre-configuration just gets in the way. | 08:46 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | My server option may be Ubuntu-server. | 08:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | do a gutsy server install then | 08:47 |
| Daviey | So what is the difference between a mythbuntu backend (No X) and ubuntu server + mythtv-backend? | 08:47 |
| laga | MythbuntuGuest66: there is no difference between ubuntu and myghbuntu. it's just a different set of packages. all packages are aailable to both distros. | 08:47 |
| tgm4883_laptop | That would be practically zilch | 08:47 |
| Daviey | exactly.. | 08:48 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Maybe not much. But, for server, I would go with Feisty at this point, and just install what I need. | 08:49 |
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| tgm4883 | I wouldn't go with feisty | 08:49 |
| tgm4883 | but to each his own | 08:49 |
| laga | i wouldn't use gutsy on a server yet, agreed. | 08:49 |
| Daviey | Well we are doing weekly fesity builds... so you are fine for now | 08:50 |
| Daviey | but I wouldn't be concerned with running Gutsy server on a home-lan | 08:50 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | My experience with gutsy seems to show it's still a bit bleeding edge. And, for simple backend use, I don't see any big advantages to using gutsy. | 08:50 |
| laga | Daviey: i'm seeing lots of segfaults in kbuntu gutsy here. | 08:50 |
| laga | it's not quite there yet for a production system | 08:51 |
| laga | TBH, some issues i find rather embarrassing, but since it's alpha i'll keep my mouth shut | 08:51 |
| Daviey | laga: yeah.. unionfs is whinging at boot up for me | 08:51 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest66, I would expect Gutsy to be a bit bleeding edge, you know, being all not released and all | 08:51 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Yeah, exactly. Which is why I would stick with stable release for my use. | 08:52 |
| tgm4883 | well good luck with that | 08:53 |
| laga | i'll extend the weekly builds to edgy, i think | 08:53 |
| laga | cant find motivation right now, though | 08:54 |
| Daviey | laga: Wouldn't dapper be more pressing than edgy | 08:54 |
| Daviey | There is little reason for people to be using edgy, but dapper is th current LTS | 08:55 |
| laga | for weekly builds? no | 08:56 |
| laga | directhex is maintaining 0.20.2 builds for dapper | 08:56 |
| superm1 | laga, mind you that ubiquity doesn't ever stop their debconf communicator | 08:56 |
| superm1 | until the app closes | 08:56 |
| laga | Daviey: our packaging stuff won't backport easily to dapper anyways. i don't want to spend time backporting it. | 08:57 |
| laga | or maintaining different package sets | 08:57 |
| superm1 | it was bad enough doing the SRU's | 09:00 |
| superm1 | i can't imagine doing that stuff regularly | 09:00 |
| laga | yup | 09:00 |
| laga | even edgy is gonna be a pain for mythweb | 09:00 |
| laga | tbh, i couldn't care less right now | 09:00 |
| laga | superm1: ok, it should be easy enough to close the debconf frontend. if we start it, we ought to have some control over it | 09:01 |
| superm1 | laga, like i said if you figure out how to, more power to you :) | 09:03 |
| laga | ya, maybe i'll give it a try | 09:04 |
| laga | had a different thought | 09:04 |
| laga | i've seen we can "reconfigure" packages in the control centre. will this spawn this apt window? where you could set the password then? | 09:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest66 | Thanks for the help. Later. | 09:05 |
| superm1 | laga, those reconfigure options dont call apt actually | 09:06 |
| superm1 | they end up just rewriting out config files | 09:06 |
| laga | ok. | 09:10 |
| superm1 | that's part of the problem | 09:18 |
| superm1 | those debconf questions aren't marked as 'seen' | 09:18 |
| superm1 | so they get shown later if someone decides to use any type of update manager to update | 09:19 |
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| laga | ah. | 09:19 |
| Mind | oh. | 09:22 |
| laga | bah! | 09:22 |
| Mind | greetz from the no1 webcastle of salzburg! austria ^^ | 09:24 |
| laga | greetings from germany. | 09:25 |
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| frink_ | it is the screensaver causing the blanking | 10:19 |
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| tgm4883 | frink_, gnome screensaver or xscreensaver? | 10:52 |
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| frink_ | tgm4883: gnome-screensaver | 11:49 |
| frink_ | oh, hmm, fast-forward does not seem to work | 11:50 |
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