=== [_Trimble_] [n=TrimbleE@166-82-144-214.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:18] an apt-get update fixed the problem [01:18] installing now [01:19] superm1_: you bet, thanks for collecting and testing those fixes. [01:19] keescook, for some reason or another lirc has been a fun pet package to pick up :) [01:19] <[_Trimble_] > hi all [01:19] <[_Trimble_] > :) [01:19] superm1_: yeah, I know what you mean. :) === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:22] <[_Trimble_] > sigh. trying to install from the 7.10 ISO again... failing to even load the liveCD... sigh === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === [_Trimble_] [n=TrimbleE@166-82-144-214.quickclick.ctc.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:34] <[_Trimble_] > sigh... if I click Install Proprietary Video Driver during install, the installer locks up. [01:34] <[_Trimble_] > even after i freshly burned a new disc from the iso :( [01:36] yep [01:37] tgm4883_laptop, I am in coder hell...vbscript and SIDs === tgm4883_laptop doesn't know foxbuntu :) === foxbuntu is going to kick tgm4883_laptop out of the irc for that comment [01:38] :P [01:38] !bug 137167 | [_Trimble_] [01:38] Launchpad bug 137167 in mythbuntu "installer freezes when click install proprietary driver" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137167 [01:39] you would think I would know that bug number off the top of my head by now [01:39] <[_Trimble_] > hehehe thank you. at least I know it's not my fault ;) [01:41] <[_Trimble_] > what is the silicon dust HDHomerun config util? is that for some specific hardware? [01:41] <[_Trimble_] > I dont have any hardware by silicon dust... [01:41] <[_Trimble_] > or is that software for configuring something i migh thave? [01:46] its for a tuner [01:46] <[_Trimble_] > ok good - i dont have that one [01:49] if you dont have it then get it :P [01:50] <[_Trimble_] > lol i assume it's for HD.. i dont have any HD displays yet :P [01:50] do you have a computer monitor? [01:50] booya, probably HD [01:50] <[_Trimble_] > yeah, but I'm not going to use it for my mythtv watching in the family room ;) === tgm4883_laptop can't live without HD [01:51] <[_Trimble_] > i can't justify the cost of HD still === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-101.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:22] <[_Trimble_] > ok, I need to put ndiswrapper on this box... can I do that with just apt-get install ndiswrapper? or should i do apt get update/upgrade first? [02:41] just installing ndiswrapper should work [02:42] <[_Trimble_] > thx :) [02:42] <[_Trimble_] > im using it's onboard wired lan to setup, plan to switch back to wireless when it's driver is in place :) === MythbuntuGuest69 [n=Mythbunt@24.152.203.168.res-cmts.eph.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:45] <[_Trimble_] > hi guest === Tari_ [n=Tari@CPE-72-133-204-1.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:47] <[_Trimble_] > hi tari === ian_001 [n=ian@ool-457d7cbf.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:49] does anyone know the correct command to do a full upgrade? [02:49] i have the release from the 11th and just tried ot upgrade my nvidia drivers and now they dont work because they require the latest kernel i guess [02:52] hi! [02:52] I just had the nvidia problem [02:52] had to apt-get update first [02:53] yeah, that [02:55] are ivtv drivers installed? having a hard time getting my pvr-350 working [02:57] ian_001, apt-get update then apt-get upgrade === MythbuntuGuest92 [n=Mythbunt@24.152.203.168.res-cmts.eph.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:00] should i do an apt-get dist-upgrade? [03:00] no!! [03:01] just do apt-get update [03:01] good thing i asked, i was about to! [03:01] then run the control panel thingie [03:01] it fixed the error that the file was not found [03:02] restricted-manager or something? [03:03] the control center [03:03] you have to change the logon type [03:03] reboot first? [03:03] ian_001, feisty or gutsy? [03:04] the mythbuntu install from sept 1 [03:04] so the latest [03:04] you may want to try a dist-upgrade [03:04] Sorry, [03:04] I thought you had a different problem [03:05] although I don't know if that will fix your problem, as a regular apt-get upgrade should pull the package your looking for [03:06] I downloaded the image tonight and installed it. The nvidia driver would not install until I did an update. [03:06] because the previous driver wasnt there? [03:06] thats hte problem i had [03:06] i uninstalled just the nvidia driver and whe ni went to reinstall it it was gone [03:07] what do you mean it is gone? [03:07] when i went to install the nvidia driver from the restricted mmanager it shoewd me the url and it couldnt download the file, i opened a browser and the file didnt exist on the server [03:08] said it couldnt [03:08] now, finally got pvr-350 working. last obsticle is lirc! No remote for me yet... [03:08] ugh [03:08] this always happens when i do na upgrade [03:08] the remote never works [03:08] that is the same problem that I had [03:08] i did the apt-get update [03:08] i knew i shouldnt have played with the nvidia driver [03:09] did you try using the mythbuntu config application? [03:09] rebooting, brb [03:09] remote never works? [03:10] What did he mean by that I wonder? [03:11] i suppose he meant that every time he touches his video card driver it breaks his lirc === ian_001 [n=ian@ool-457d7cbf.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:15] ok now both my remote and my nvidia driver work [03:15] <[_Trimble_] > @#$@#$ nvidia drivers broke my machine.... :( [03:15] <[_Trimble_] > lol [03:15] what worked for me was apt-get update, apt-get upgrade [03:16] i thought my remote would break during the process but im fine [03:16] <[_Trimble_] > nice :) [03:17] <[_Trimble_] > I'm using the 7.10 mythbuntu iso, and I just asked it to install the "nvidia latest" drivers, and X broke. /sigh In my test rig i used the non-latest.. heh [03:17] did yo utry the update? [03:18] <[_Trimble_] > yeah [03:18] Is there an easy way to get the remote working on a fresh install? It is a Hauppage remote [03:18] <[_Trimble_] > before i asked it to install the nvidia drivers [03:19] nevermind! [03:19] apparently I just needed to install my old lircrc file [03:19] <[_Trimble_] > well, my hauppage 150 silver remote worked immediately after install using the 7.10 iso [03:19] mine is kinda working now [03:20] <[_Trimble_] > mine worked perfectly on my test HD, except i had to edit the config to get the back/exit button working [03:21] <[_Trimble_] > now i'm trying to put the same config on my real HD and it's being a pain [03:23] yeah, that is the button that is broken on mine. [03:26] New bug: #140841 in mythtv (multiverse) "package mythtv-transcode-utils 0.20.2-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/mythtranscode', that is also on package mythtv-backend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140841 [03:26] glad I remembered to back up my highly modificated lircrc!! [03:31] anyone remember how to make the ok/enter button go to a channel from the guide? [03:38] <[_Trimble_] > wait, what? [03:38] <[_Trimble_] > change ok/enter? [03:39] <[_Trimble_] > i forgot what file i edited to fix my back/exit button heh [03:42] I got that [03:43] the lircrc mane did not match the lirc.conf name [03:43] the volume names were screwy too [03:43] only thing I dod not get working tonight is the DVD. [03:44] There is a setting in the guide settings where it changes the function of the ok button while in guide to make it change channels. I found it [03:45] otherwise the ok button goes to record settings [03:46] heading to bed! Thanks to anyone involved in making MU. It is WAY easier than doing it from scratch like last time === neofax99 [n=terry@c-67-187-163-157.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:59] <[_Trimble_] > good LORD how much data does it download from schedules direct the first time? 20 weeks worth? === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:12] tgm4883, that screenshot you posted, its fixed in ubiquity already [04:12] after alpha4 [04:13] laga, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=commit;h=435c10811fc81d371a1ac385d4a9be590f9a1861 :) [04:13] this looks promissing [04:15] superm1_, screen shot? [04:16] oh the ubiquity crash? === ian_001 [n=ian@ool-457d7cbf.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Alowishus [n=jpenix@63.98.246.130] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === FatDave [n=mythtv@c-75-72-155-81.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:34] wow. i'm on the site. Just found out about "mythbuntu" Its a really cool idea. [04:35] thanks FatDave [04:35] first question: is it going to support cards like hauppauge out of the box? [04:35] well most of the support will come from Gutsy [04:36] thats what I was thinking, but haven't looked at gutsy yet. do you know if it has support for the ivtv drivers built in? [04:36] yes [04:36] tit banger! thats the one thing that pained me so every time that I installed mythtv on a fresh box [04:37] I see that mythbuntu isn't "official" yet, but I assume it is good enough to install? [04:37] well, there are a few bugs [04:37] but it is usable [04:38] superm1_, whats the time frame for the beta? [04:38] I also just found out about zap2it after seeing that there are no more channel listings in myth :( [04:38] There is Schedules Direct though :) [04:41] yeah, but you have to pay [04:41] eh, it's only $15/6 months [04:41] but to each his own [04:42] <[_Trimble_] > yeah, 15 bucks for 6 months is wayyyyy better than tivo ;) [04:42] i know. i'm just hoping that there will be enough of an outcry [04:42] an outcry for what? [04:42] how does winblows media center work? do you have to pay for channel listings or something with that? [04:43] outcry for another free tv listing service [04:43] well there are screenscraper programs [04:43] i hear they don't work the best [04:44] they dont [04:44] may not be accurate or something. never tried them though [04:44] but I wouldn't hold your breath for another free service [04:44] You could also either get data OTA, or go without channel data [04:44] well, i am will be watching the progress with mythbuntu. I think its very cool [04:50] <[_Trimble_] > <-- lurking... good night === bmathis [n=bmathis@c-71-195-113-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest11 [n=Mythbunt@cpe-204-210-188-132.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:12] hello all [05:12] hi [05:12] any reason why alpha4 nvidia does not sync with my monitor [05:12] if that makes sense [05:13] livecd [05:13] what card? [05:13] how is libXvMC.so.1 in comparison to libXvMCNVIDIA.dynamic.so.1? [05:13] anyone? [05:13] geforce 6150 integrated [05:13] asus m2npv-vm [05:13] it should [05:14] did you verify the iso and cd? [05:14] yes [05:14] burnt twice === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:14] I have a samsung 22" lcd [05:14] interesting [05:15] my 6100 gets picked up fine, although it only does 1024x768 on my tv in the live env [05:15] hmmm [05:16] tried analog and digital [05:16] so you can't even get into the live env? [05:16] no [05:16] i guess [05:16] i could [05:16] did you try safe graphics mode? [05:16] alt+f2 to get to a term [05:16] and check xorg.conf [05:16] yes [05:16] I am running knoppmyth on the same box right now [05:16] superm1_, you around? === foxbuntu is now known as superm1 [05:17] whats up tgm4883? [05:17] whats up tgm4883_laptop ? [05:17] sweet [05:17] when is the beta going to be released [05:18] Tonight [05:18] right [05:18] sweet [05:18] what time? [05:18] lol [05:18] MythbuntuGuest11, don't count on it [05:18] hehe [05:18] <-- Foxbuntu [05:18] foxbuntu is playing a dirty trick === superm1 is now known as foxbuntu [05:18] lol [05:18] i figured that out when he changed nicks === tgm4883_laptop is now known as therealfoxbuntu [05:19] hehe [05:19] tgm4883 is the coolest [05:19] lol [05:19] way cooler than I [05:19] too slow, I witched back [05:19] switched [05:19] nope, your an imposter, im the real foxbuntu [05:19] besides everyone knows I am the l337'est [05:20] you may be delusional === therealfoxbuntu is now known as tgm4883_laptop [05:21] no one else has had a sync prob? [05:21] I do think that the beta will be released this week, if everything that superm1 wanted to happen did in fact happen [05:21] sorry mythbuntuguest11 [05:21] tgm4883_laptop, yea...likely...went to the doc yesterday and well..he gave me some really good stuff [05:22] of course he did [05:22] no one ever goes to the doc and says that they got really weak stuff [05:22] just remember if it lasts longer than 4 hours you need to see a medical professional [05:22] j/k [05:23] really...I just thought it was supposed to be like that [05:23] shit [05:23] its been 10 hours [05:25] foxbuntu, you use mythbuntu right? [05:25] do you have screen blanking issues? [05:25] I used to [05:25] what did you do :) [05:25] .. [05:25] I gotta think about it [05:26] it was some stupid setting [05:26] wow traffic still going up [05:28] tgm4883_laptop, you running an nVidia card? [05:28] yep [05:28] oh are you running a desktop install or the actual Mythbuntu? [05:28] mythbutnu [05:28] oh...mine is desktop [05:28] i'll try anything [05:28] becuase I have just kept upgrading [05:29] my issue was related to running a desktop install [05:29] its your power settings [05:29] and something about the tv [05:30] dpms i think [05:30] yea [05:30] i've been messing around with that for a while now [05:30] i think you can disable it in the xorg [05:34] i have the DPMS line commented out in my Xorg [05:34] in section Monitor === MythbuntuGuest18 [n=Mythbunt@S01060013106dc7c8.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MythbuntuGuest18 is now known as itzac [05:45] how do I disable gnome-screensaver? [05:45] itzac, gnome-screensaver-preferences [05:45] great, thanks superml. figured it'd be something like that [05:46] itzac, next alpha it should be in the xfce menus once we activate xfce [05:47] good to hear, though I'm surprised it's enabled in the first place [05:47] well it makes sense on tvs [05:47] it shouldnt come on during the recordings though [05:47] just the menus [05:48] yeah, that's what I'd expect [05:48] is it coming on during recordings for you? [05:48] yup, and the remote doesn't turn it off. I have to use the keyboard [05:48] is the screen turning black? [05:48] or is the screensaver coming on [05:48] you might be encountering the same thing tgm4883_laptop was [05:48] turning black slowly [05:49] hm i wonder if the gnome screensaver support broke then recently [05:49] your sure its a slow fade to black [05:49] not just a sudden black [05:50] slow fade in menus, haven't seen it on tv, just came back to black [05:51] okay then you are encountering dpms problems [05:51] gnome screensaver support is working as expected though (in the menus its coming on) [05:51] dpms is turning on otherwise though [05:51] can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any info re: DPMS? [05:51] does it matter that this is on my TV? [05:52] it shouldn't [05:52] tgm4883_laptop, get back here so you can say what you sorted out this with? [05:52] im back whats up [05:52] itzac is getting the same DPMS thing you were [05:52] what did you end up having to do for it? [05:52] sweet [05:52] heh, nothing [05:53] well [05:53] actually I have tried everything, and it still does it [05:53] not what you wanted to hear? [05:53] all seems joyful in the log [05:53] itzac, can you do [05:53] xset q [05:54] can I do it from ssh? [05:54] No [05:55] open up the control centre and choose the advanced management tab [05:55] and hit the terminal button there [05:55] your looking for a section like this in the results of xset q [05:55] DPMS (Energy Star): [05:55] Standby: 0 Suspend: 0 Off: 0 [05:55] DPMS is Enabled [05:55] Monitor is On [05:56] q, brb [05:58] tgm4883_laptop, in your xset q [05:58] can you check and see what the "Screen Saver:" [05:58] section indicates? [05:58] DPMS (Energy Star): [05:59] Standby: 1200 Suspend: 1800 Off: 2400 [05:59] etc.. [05:59] okay try this then [05:59] xset s -dpms [05:59] see if that resolves things [05:59] if it doesn't, then it is the normal "X" screensaver breaking them [06:00] should set values to 0? [06:00] once you do xset s -dpms [06:00] that turns them all off [06:02] dpms is disabled [06:02] hopefully that reoslves the issue [06:02] man if that works im going to be happy [06:02] and irritated [06:02] hehe [06:02] but mostly happy [06:02] well it still doesn't solve the problem permanently [06:02] it just will identify it [06:02] i swear i did that yesterday [06:02] yea, a reboot will change it back [06:03] I was about to ask [06:03] so if that *doesn't work* [06:03] then try this [06:03] xset s off [06:03] but dont do them both right now [06:03] how do I make it permanent? [06:03] because we need to identify which one is causing it [06:03] we'll get to that after we know if its the solution :) [06:04] off to watch a show. I'll know in less than 30 [06:04] evening superm1_ [06:04] hi [06:05] foxbuntu, i ran into travis today at the career fair [06:05] which one? [06:05] Farmer? [06:05] yes [06:05] wow really? [06:05] hows he doin? [06:06] graduating this may [06:06] good [06:06] I haven't heard from him in quite some time [06:07] yeah that's what he said [06:07] who was he talking to at the cf? [06:07] i dunno [06:07] oh [06:14] that seems to have done it, I think === CBiLL [n=nutty@32.143.239.248] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:14] I still have the problem [06:15] slow fade during tv [06:15] *slow fade*? [06:15] sure [06:15] ? [06:15] Hi folks [06:16] damn, looks like I was too optimistic, too [06:16] same thing [06:16] got rid of my flickering problem .. it was an VBI issue [06:16] submitted a report anyway [06:16] well you guys are describing two different problems [06:16] hi CBiLL [06:16] oh you had vbi on? [06:16] i could have told you vbi was buggy :) [06:16] I have to [06:16] I am deaf remember [06:16] =P [06:16] no, slow fade during tv [06:17] need it on for CC but it fixed [06:17] CBiLL, your deaf? [06:17] itzac, what is it doing to you? [06:18] yes [06:18] CBiLL, sorry to hear that. that would make things difficult wrg to vbi wouldnt it [06:19] wrg? [06:19] with regard to [06:19] only thing i need to do was change relsolution to 720 x 480 [06:19] and it stop flickering [06:19] and vbi works now too? [06:20] superm1_, btw...did the new Usplash work ok for you? [06:20] foxbuntu, i uploaded it to the archive [06:20] tgm, slow fade to black in menus or during tv [06:20] awesome [06:20] itzac, yep same thing here [06:21] foxbuntu, but i haven't rebooted my laptop yet, so i havent tried it [06:21] oh you should [06:21] its nice [06:21] some bug in IVTV [06:21] yes [06:21] perfectly [06:21] just change recording profile default and live tv [06:21] to 720 x 480 [06:21] itzac, tgm4883_laptop so then gnome-screensaver support *is* broken now or not. i'm pretty confused. [06:22] well, shutting off dpms didn't fix it [06:22] CBiLL, we'll have to get that added to the wiki or to the manual [06:22] superm1_, I think it's gnome screensaver [06:22] itzac, try the xset s off [06:22] tgm4883_laptop, well this isn't good then. [06:22] I've already disabled the screensaver, will let you know if that solves it [06:22] CBiLL, can you let DaveMorris know next time you see him [06:22] superm1_ : I submitted a bug report on it [06:22] but yeah should be added to wiki [06:22] ok if I see him [06:23] he come to this channel? [06:23] CBiLL, okay, well there is no general way to force it for everyone [06:23] yeah he does === dooder [n=nate@c-24-21-143-145.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [06:23] xset s off sets the screensaver to off? [06:23] tgm4883_laptop, turns off the 'X' screensaver [06:23] not the gnome-screensaver [06:23] Ill remember it [06:23] ah [06:23] CBiLL, so everything else is working correctly for you now then right? [06:24] yes [06:24] perfectly [06:25] nice Closed Captioning too since i could change font and it size [06:25] I have not test recording and playing back on another player to see if it record the CC [06:25] I hope it does [06:25] CBiLL, great. and everything you've ran into along the way has either already had a bug filed or is fixed in a future release right? [06:25] I don't know about being fixed in future release but found a forum talking about it [06:26] so tried it and it fixed the problem [06:26] so I filed a bug with a link to that forum post about it [06:26] okay so at least everything has bugs filed then [06:26] but picture is perfect [06:27] that is on PVR 500 composite in [06:27] where everyone says is grainy and crappy [06:27] and it not to me [06:27] look clean and almost sharp [06:27] superm1_, i should also note that the remote doesn't bring it out of the black screen [06:28] tgm4883_laptop, see that's characteristic of the "X' screensaver [06:28] I just disabled gnome-screensaver so we'll see [06:28] but not gnome screensaver [06:28] those fade in and out [06:29] yeah [06:29] I seen them but only when I am in menu or left it there [06:29] never saw it occur on live tv [06:29] it a normal thing right? to fade out when it in Menu listing? [06:29] yeah that's normal [06:30] tgm4883_laptop, and itzac claim that it is happening during tv too though [06:30] i think they're lying, but that's just me :) [06:30] CBiLL, re the picture being sharp to you: on a tv it looks a lot better to most people [06:30] ok back to get my samba working .. thanks again for trying superm1_ and wanted to come in to tell you about it [06:30] lagas was a huge help pinpointing it too! [06:30] oh no s hehe [06:30] laga [06:30] thanks for getting us the info on what needs to be done about it, we'll be able to point others toward it now :) [06:31] yes [06:31] just change the setting and it done [06:36] nope [06:36] disabled gnome screensaver and it still does it [06:37] bios have screensaver on it? [06:37] tgm4883_laptop, did you do xset s off? [06:37] older copmuter did [06:38] I know lot of laptop bios had screensaver on it to save battery power .. are you using laptop? (just assuming due to your irc nickname ) [06:39] superm1_, no, i'm doing that now thought [06:39] it takes about 10 minutes for it to happen, and the remote has no effect on it at all [06:40] hrmmm where the samba config saved at again? [06:42]