[03:11] <garfield> ok for how long?
[03:12] <stdin> try joining now
[07:52] <Myrtti> Yarrr.
[07:57] <nalioth> avast! it's Myrtti!
[09:27] <ubotu> h1st0 called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:28] <Madpilot> done for by Myrtti. Spamming idiot.
[09:28] <Myrtti> my finger is on the trigger on glock
[11:50] <guay> ola
[12:05] <jussi01> great... another ola....
[12:05] <mc44> ola ola, ola ola, feeling hot hot hot
[12:06] <jussi01> lol
[12:39] <elkbuntu> thankfully it's only 3 lines usually
[02:39] <Myrtti> hum?!
[02:39] <Myrtti> that sandy person again?
[02:40] <Seveas> Myrtti, care to elaborate?
[02:40] <Myrtti> (s)he's been on the channel asking for help for gutsy a few times already
[02:40] <Myrtti> has a way of repeating the questions over and over
[02:40] <Myrtti> or just having difficulties undestanding the answers
[02:42] <elkbuntu> and annoyingly addresses people with lt and gt
[03:05] <ubotu> maddash called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:10] <Pier8> ahoy mates!
[03:11] <jdong> oh geez, is that thing today??
[03:11] <Hobbsee> ahoy!
[03:11] <Hobbsee> jdong: seems so.  the year goes quickly.
[03:11] <jdong> yes it does
[03:11] <Pici> Avast!
[03:11] <GazzaK> och aye da noo jimmy (/me just got home from Scotland)
[03:12] <jdong> VISTA ENT-EN-VOL UNLK ORiON!
[03:12] <jdong> wait not that kind of pirate...
[03:13] <GazzaK> lol
[03:15] <Pier8> hehehehe
[03:29] <GazzaK> ouch
[03:30] <PriceChild> Hey Gary :)
[03:30] <PriceChild> what's "keelhaul"ing?
[03:31] <Gary> tying to a rope and dragged under a boat
[03:31] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: ARRRR!!!!!!
[03:31] <Gary> over one side, under the keel and out the other side
[03:31] <Gary> repeat as required :p
[03:32] <Gary> I just ghosted someone using my nick who is a op in #bash :p
[03:32] <LjL> he'll rm rf you
[03:34] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, yaaaarrrghhhhh matey!!!!
[03:34] <Gary> ahh, level for auto-op in #bash is set to 0
[03:34] <PriceChild> how be you this fine swashbuckling evening?
[03:35] <jdong> "swashbuckling"?
[03:35] <PriceChild> jdong, yes, swashbuckling?
[03:35] <PriceChild> Gary, real pirates don't cry
[03:36] <Gary> lol
[03:37] <Gary> help help, I'm being repressed
[03:37] <Gary> hehe
[03:38] <Gary> hows Seveas ?
[03:38] <Gary> work gone quiet yet?
[03:38] <Seveas> slightly
[03:38] <Seveas> we're moving from samba to active directory
[03:38] <Seveas> which I don't have to maintain :)
[03:38] <Gary> still having to support windows then
[03:38] <Seveas> so less work
[03:39] <Seveas> and end of all windows support
[03:39] <Gary> yay
[03:39] <Pici> But then what will you do?
[03:39] <Seveas> instead, I'm writing free software :)
[03:39] <Seveas> and probably getting a trip to singapore 
[03:39] <LjL> for free
[03:39] <Gary> Pici, he will have more time for op abuse then :-)
[03:39] <Pici> Yay!
[03:39] <LjL> ah well, if that's for free too
[03:40] <Gary> language!
[03:40] <Gary> :p
[03:40] <Pici> English!
[03:40] <Seveas> bite me :p
[03:40] <LjL> done
[03:40] <Pici> Dont tempt him
[03:40] <Seveas> yeah, you were faster :)
[03:40] <Hobbsee> damn, tried at the same time.
[03:40] <Pici> see, too late.
[03:40] <Hobbsee> bloody au lag.
[03:42] <PriceChild> Who is <bnrubin##gmail?com> ?
[03:42] <Gary> damn, I need more access here :p
[03:42] <Pici> PriceChild: Thats me
[03:42] <PriceChild> Hey Pici :)
[03:42] <Pici> Hi!
[03:42] <Gary> ha
[03:42] <Gary> haha
[03:42] <LjL> pff, right when my mom was pestering me about the fact that i reject emails bigger than 60k
[03:42] <LjL> now stop kids
[03:42] <jussi01> lol
[03:42] <Hobbsee> right.
[03:43] <Seveas> playground++
[03:43] <PriceChild> *whistles*
[03:43] <Gary> wassn't me
[03:43] <Gary> it was him ---->
[03:43] <PriceChild> Daviey, disgusting... crossing the line!
[03:43] <PriceChild> get out
[03:43] <LjL> Gary: your arrow is pointing to my "Op" button
[03:43] <PriceChild> :P
[03:43] <Seveas> end of playtime
[03:43] <LjL> but i know it was an op
[03:43] <Seveas> incoming complaint
[03:43] <jdong> Gary: my imaginary friend bob? yeah...
[03:43] <Hobbsee> Seveas: oh, who?
[03:43] <Seveas> zipper
[03:44] <Hobbsee> fun
[03:44] <LjL> yuppie
[03:44] <Seveas> banned from -offtopic for illegal things (DRM removing) after repeated warnings in #ubuntu
[03:44] <Seveas> and later banned for evading the original one
[03:44] <Hobbsee> @btlogin
[03:44] <PriceChild> linuxbeast, please change your real name.
[03:44] <PriceChild> linux_user400354, anything I can help you with?
[03:44] <zipper> Is there any kind of form or something you should fill out in order to make a complaint about operator abuse?
[03:45] <PriceChild> zipper, one moment please while a few of us catch up on logs.
[03:45] <zipper> Roger that
[03:45] <LjL> PriceChild: or rather, just go away. look at the clone
[03:45] <PriceChild> aha
[03:46] <PriceChild> Forgot to check hostmasks.... will remove them in a couple of minutes if no reply.
[03:46] <Hobbsee> zipper: have you visited #kubuntu before?
[03:46] <LjL> i banned them yesterday from #ubuntu. admittedly they hadn't said anything, but two clones with such realnames..
[03:46] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, yes, several times
[03:47] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: right, so the ban is definetly you, i take it.
[03:47] <z1pp3r> Uhm, i'm not banned in #kubuntu
[03:48] <z1pp3r> I was talking about DRM in #ubuntu, got told it was off-topic, so i went to #ubuntu-offtopic to ask the same question, just to get banned
[03:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, you were asking in -offtopic earlier today how to get around DRM protected songs?
[03:48] <z1pp3r> Yes
[03:48] <Seveas> you got told it eas illegal and we don't support/allow it
[03:48] <Seveas> s/eas/was/
[03:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, could you go check the terms of purchase for where you got the songs from please?
[03:48] <z1pp3r> Seveas, and as i told you, it is _not_ illegal for me. Different countries has different laws you know.
[03:49] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, But freenode, and ubuntu aren't in your country.
[03:49] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, i probably could, but a court ruling made those terms unimportant. It is always legal to remove DRM here.
[03:49] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: do you happen to have links to fullrate.dk?
[03:49] <PriceChild> *doesn't care about where you are as it has no relevance*
[03:49] <Seveas> z1pp3r, and our policy is not to allow/support it
[03:49] <Seveas> which was explained to you
[03:50] <Seveas> if you don't want to follow channel policies, you are not welcome
[03:50] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, But then i dont understand the whole non-free repositories thing... With the one law for every country policy and all
[03:50] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, hmm?
[03:50] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, you use those repositories, if you accept the license of them, and it is legal for you to do so.
[03:51] <PriceChild> That is made very clear.
[03:51] <z1pp3r> and it's legal for me to remove DRM, also made very clear
[03:51] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, so on your return, on a very different ip, not like a new dhcp ip, you immediately go against the banning op.... I think that's ban evasion myself.
[03:52] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, I've made it very clear that this is #*buntu*, and afaik freenode policy also.
[03:52] <z1pp3r> Seveas, thank you captain obvious, but a notice about it not being allowed in -offtopic would've been nice. I can see why it doesnt belong in #ubuntu, but how would i know about the -offtopic? Usually anything goes inthere
[03:52] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: anything #*ubuntu* follows the guidelines.  if you read the guidelines, you'd know this.
[03:52] <Hobbsee> if you read !o4o, you'd also know this.
[03:52] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, thats my mistake, and i'm sorry for that. Didn't try to evade my ban, just got home and logged on irc
[03:53] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, dont recall me ever being banned from kubuntu
[03:53] <PriceChild> Ok I think I'll accept that as a reason for the change.
[03:54] <z1pp3r> As you might've noticed, i havent mentioned that for the same reason
[03:54] <Hobbsee> z1pp3r: hm?
[03:54] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, I'm willing to bet it is... judging by the zipper!zipper@*.dk
[03:54] <z1pp3r> Hobbsee, i might've been, but i cant recall me being banned
[03:57] <jdong> This is none of my business, but it sounds like a simple misunderstanding of channel policy -- z1pp3r thought the ops means no piracy in #ubuntu rather than no piracy in #*buntu*...
[03:57] <z1pp3r> but... its not... piracy.... =/
[03:57] <z1pp3r> but yeah, other than that you're right
[03:59] <Pici> z1pp3r: Just because you do not think it is or should be piracy does not negate the fact that there are laws against it.  
[03:59] <jdong> z1pp3r: regardless of what it is, the Ubuntu policies set for these channels disallow its discussion, whether or not it's legal in your jurisdiction. Can you accept that while you are in Ubuntu's domains, it is not to be discussed?
[03:59] <z1pp3r> Pici, if you had bothered reading what i've been saying, a court order in my country made it legal to remove DRM.
[03:59] <PriceChild> Ok, give us a second and I'll give you a decision.
[03:59] <z1pp3r> jdong, ofcourse
[04:00] <LjL> z1pp3r, the jurisdiction that applies for these channel is *not* your country's
[04:00] <jdong> ok, that's all I wanted to clarify; this is the IRC council's domain and I didn't mean to disturb.
[04:00] <z1pp3r> yes, i'm finally starting to understand that
[04:02] <z1pp3r> Are any of you guys aware of a channel/network where such questions as mine are appropriate then?
[04:02] <jdong> z1pp3r: are you familiar with the doom9 forums?
[04:02] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, I don't think that is our place.
[04:02] <z1pp3r> familiar is an overstatement, i've heard about it
[04:03] <z1pp3r> i'll check it out, thanks
[04:03] <Tm_T> mooh
[04:03] <z1pp3r> PriceChild, fair enough. I guess that also means my ban won't be lifted anytime soon
[04:03] <jdong> z1pp3r: they would be the better place for information on that kind of technology... it's not somethign that any of us here know much about or are interested in working with :)
[04:03] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, give us a minute, and we'll get back to you, please be patient :)
[04:03] <z1pp3r> okay
[04:03] <Tm_T> I rather not touch drm in first place =)
[04:04] <z1pp3r> but really, dont bother if it's much of a problem
[04:04] <z1pp3r> i guess the ban will expire soon enough
[04:04] <Seveas> bans don't expire on freenode
[04:04] <Pici> z1pp3r: Bans need to be lifted manually, they arent timed.
[04:04] <jdong> z1pp3r: keep your pants on, man, let the IRC council make a decision
[04:04] <z1pp3r> "soon enough" is relative =)
[04:28] <PriceChild> Pici, their real namse
[04:29] <Gary> they were rude
[04:29] <Pici> PriceChild: I know, it was just so sudden
[04:29] <LjL> PriceChild: you may want to notice they're in forums too
[04:29] <PriceChild> ahh :)
[04:29] <LjL> Pici: banned them yesterday from #ubuntu
[04:29] <PriceChild> lovely.
[04:30] <Pici> LjL: Ahh... okay.
[04:30] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, cocox said: ubotu: yeah alsa is selected, im gonna check the links gaven
[04:30] <Gary> and in -offtopic too
[04:30] <LjL> i know
[04:31] <LjL> i'd ban again, but i was thinking, after all they never said anything afaik
[04:33] <LjL> while on the other hand, as they never said anything at all, they probably don't need to lurk and do whatever they're doing - since whatever they're doing is unlikely to be something nice.
[04:34] <LjL> they're in so many unrelated big channels they must be harvesting nicks, pm spamming, or something else uncool
[04:43] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, Hey there, we'll lift the ban in 24 hours so please come back and poke one of us if we don't remember.
[04:44] <z1pp3r> Cheers
[04:48] <PriceChild> z1pp3r, Is there anything else we can help you with?
[04:48] <z1pp3r> Uhm no, i dont think so
[04:49] <PriceChild> Have a good day :)
[04:52] <z1pp3r> you too
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Seveas: what's the way to call up cve's?
[05:01] <Seveas> cve 2007-1
[05:01] <Seveas> oslt
[05:02] <Seveas> cve-2007-0123
[05:02] <Seveas> gah
[05:02] <Seveas> CVE-2007-4826
[05:03] <Seveas> that should do it
[05:03] <Seveas> is bugtracker off in here? :)
[05:03] <Pici> bug 1
[05:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[05:03] <Hobbsee> Seveas: it's not working in k-d either
[05:07] <Seveas> Hobbsee, cve website changed. screenscraping broke
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ahhh
[05:10] <PriceChild> jussi01, you mean voice when someone enters? It signifies they're an op
[05:10] <jussi01> PriceChild: ok, so who actually gets op in here?
[05:10] <Hobbsee> jussi01: it matters when we're +m, as only those who are +v can talk
[05:10] <Seveas> CVE-2007-4826
[05:10] <ubotu> bgpd in Quagga before 0.99.9, when debugging is enabled, allows remote BGP peers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a malformed (1) OPEN message or (2) COMMUNITY attribute that triggers a NULL pointer dereference. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4826)
[05:10] <Hobbsee> but we use to signify who is an op/staffer, vs who isnt.
[05:11] <PriceChild> jussi01, those on the ubuntu-irc launchpad team can ask for operator access from the channel contacts in #*buntu*... voice (+'s before names, or mode +v) is given to ops of the main ubuntu-irc channels.
[05:11] <Pici> Myrtti: sneaky ;)
[05:11] <Tm_T> indeedy
[05:14] <Myrtti> Pici: huh?
[05:14] <Myrtti> oh?
[05:15] <jussi01> PriceChild: and all thanks :)
[05:16] <Myrtti> wow.
[05:16] <Myrtti> thanks
[05:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: now youre +quality
[05:22] <PriceChild> jussi01, where are you an op?
[05:22] <jussi01> PriceChild: #ubuntustudio
[05:23] <Myrtti> Tm_T: in reality +++quality
[05:23] <Myrtti> ;-)
[05:23] <Tm_T> true!
[05:23] <Seveas> jussi01, that's not our realm
[05:23] <PriceChild> jussi01, ah, that's not under the control of the ubuntu-irc team, so doesn't really mean voice in here etc.
[05:23] <jussi01> PriceChild: oh. ok then
[05:23] <jussi01> PriceChild: should it be?
[05:23] <Seveas> though it could be if the ubuntustudio team wants us to take care of it :)
[05:24] <Myrtti> Tm_T: no, actually ++++quality
[05:24] <PriceChild> jussi01, "should" is a matter of opinion :)
[05:24] <LjL> self-inflicted imposition, how lovely
[05:24] <LjL> oh? i was thinking aloud
[05:25] <jussi01> Seveas: PriceChild: ok, I will check with the people who make these decisions. 
[05:25] <PriceChild> jussi01, probably best it stays as it is imo
[05:25] <PriceChild> "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
[05:25] <jussi01> PriceChild: ok. fair enough. Feel free to reject that application then. 
[05:27] <PriceChild> We normally take new ops up after observing them in the main channels, (listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/Scope )
[05:29] <Hobbsee> would b e nice if you find more though
[05:30] <PriceChild> yeah you did suggest a couple from your side of the world a little ago iirc
[05:31] <Hobbsee> just people that i'd seen as good.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> still, go find more from my side of teh world.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> before we hit crisis point.
[05:37] <jussi01> PriceChild: OK. thanks for the link. I appreciate it :)
[05:40] <audi> hola busco novia
[05:40] <LjL> !es
[05:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:40] <audi> busco chica
[05:40] <jdong> wasn't the range banned yesterday?
[05:40] <Myrtti> remind me again about "my side of teh world?"
[05:40] <LjL> jdong: redirected to here
[05:40] <Pici> Not from this channel
[05:40] <jdong> LjL: ah
[05:40] <jdong> well he spelled hola right this time.
[05:40] <LjL> i just want them away from #ubuntu
[05:41] <LjL> not bugging y'all here is no in my agenda :)
[05:41] <LjL> s/no/not
[05:41] <Myrtti> chica?
[05:41] <Myrtti> isn't that women?
[05:42] <PriceChild> (Only meant to remove the one then)
[05:42] <LjL> yep Myrtti
[05:42] <Myrtti> lovely
[05:42] <LjL> i'm looking for a girl, he said
[05:42] <LjL> i suppose leaving the server is the best way
[05:42] <jdong> lol, amen.
[05:42] <jdong> speaking of that....
[05:43] <PriceChild> LjL's a pro :)
[05:44] <LjL> PriceChild: i have an svn version of konversation that finally has a search box for bans
[05:44] <PriceChild> hehe
[05:44] <PriceChild> /cs bans is always useful
[05:44] <LjL> but i can't use that
[05:44] <LjL> (and won't :P)
[05:45] <LjL> i wonder if a new version of konv will ever be released though
[05:51] <jussi01> LjL: one day...
[05:51] <Hobbsee> ah yes, the ban list serach will rock
[05:52] <LjL> soy chica
[05:52] <LjL> uff, too late
[05:52] <PriceChild> :)
[05:52] <jussi01> that sounds like a nice feature. LjL are there any other nice features worth mentioning?
[05:53] <LjL> jussi01: i've used it for quite a while now so i may not remember some things that aren't there in the release version... (also, perhaps in the *current* SVN there's even more, though it doesn't look very often updated)
[05:54] <LjL> jussi01: i can mention the nicklist feature where you can make nicks that talk the most show first on the list
[05:54] <jussi01> ok
[05:54] <LjL> except it's broken
[05:54] <jussi01> LjL: that sounds cool also...
[05:54] <LjL> but it'd find it useful if it weren't
[05:54] <PriceChild> That sounds really cool :)
[05:55] <LjL> there's also "differences" in the way scrolling works
[05:55] <Pici> I could see how that could cause a bit of overhead in channels like #ubuntu
[05:55] <LjL> i say "differences" because saying "improvements" would perhaps be pushing wishful thinking a bit too far
[05:55] <LjL> Pici: meh, we aren't running 286s
[05:55] <LjL> and it's hardly an NP algorithm :P
[05:56] <jussi01> !ping
[05:56] <ubotu> pong
[05:56] <jussi01> oh, it woke up...
[06:01] <PriceChild> bah :)
[06:01] <LjL> not quite too late but very very close to too late
[06:01] <PriceChild> hehe
[06:05] <PriceChild> wow loads of new icons
[06:05] <PriceChild> Hello raky, how can we help?
[06:06] <raky> should i be tested for the router bug?  i nstalled the most recent firmware, and changed to 8001
[06:06] <PriceChild> ok will do
[06:06] <PriceChild> raky, all looks good, welcome back to #ubuntu :)
[06:07] <raky> thanks!
[06:58] <Wurstfinger_3247> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7592513
[06:58] <Wurstfinger_3247> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7592513
[06:58] <tomaw> Wurstfinger_3247: please don't spam those urls on freenode
[06:59] <PriceChild> *don't click to see what it is*
[06:59] <PriceChild> will just give him more "hits" and points.
[07:00] <LjL> why can't i hit him?
[07:01] <PriceChild> :)
[07:47] <bbp> ola
[07:48] <LjL> bonjour
[07:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, PriceChild said: no appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for Windows programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:48] <LjL> under !WINE
[07:48] <LjL> and for !Windows
[07:49] <PriceChild> hehe was adding the "windows" bit, will add those !s
[07:49] <ubuntu-laptop> hmm ubotu seems to ha ve alot of lag here
[07:50] <LjL> !lag
[07:50] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[07:50] <PriceChild> lol :)
[07:50] <PriceChild> !-lag
[07:50] <ubotu> lag has no aliases - added by LjL on 2007-09-19 19:50:31
[07:50] <LjL> pff
[07:52] <PriceChild> fermat is back... *checks if he's evading*
[07:52] <jussi01> what?? [20:48]  --> UncleSam has joined this channel (n=USbot@ubuntu/bot/unclesam).
[07:53] <PriceChild> jussi01, vorian's playing
[07:53] <PriceChild> Its the us loco teams bot
[07:53] <jussi01> PriceChild: Ahh
[07:53] <jussi01> ok
[07:56] <Vorian> playing eh?
[07:56] <jdong> playing with what?
[07:57] <jussi01> jdong: stop talking dirty
[07:57] <jussi01> :P
[07:57] <jdong> jussi01: they see me rollin.... they hatin....
[07:58] <jussi01> lol
[08:06] <jussi01> !ubuntustudio
[08:06] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.tv Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[08:06] <jussi01> that should be .org for the official site
[08:08] <PriceChild> !-ubuntustudio
[08:08] <ubotu> ubuntustudio aliases: ubuntu-studio, ubuntu studio, studio - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 00:13:40
[08:08] <PriceChild> !no ubuntustudio is <reply> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.org Or visit #ubuntustudio
[08:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that PriceChild
[08:08] <jussi01> thanks PriceChild
[08:09] <PriceChild> nps
[08:09] <jussi01> PriceChild: also, what is the proceedure to get a bot into #ubuntustudio ?
[08:09] <PriceChild> which bot?
[08:09] <jussi01> ubotu or similar/clone
[08:09] <PriceChild> .ubotu?
[08:09] <jussi01> oh, crap
[08:10] <jussi01> i hate that
[08:10] <PriceChild> I think the policy is just official channels, *ping seveas*
[08:10] <PriceChild> and locos...
[08:10] <Seveas> @join #ubuntustudio
[08:10] <jussi01> Seveas: thanks!!
[08:10] <PriceChild> there we go :)
[08:10] <Seveas> ubuntustudio is becoming on official derivative afaik
[08:10] <Seveas> so why not :)
[08:11] <PriceChild> yeah all packages are into gutsy now aren't they?
[08:11] <jussi01> Seveas: yes we are :) thank you
[08:11] <PriceChild> canonical's even doing the discs?
[08:11] <jussi01> yep
[08:11] <nalioth> i put ubot3 into 'unofficial' channels that ask
[08:11] <nalioth> PriceChild: fyi  ^^^
[08:12] <jussi01> You guys are efficient!! thank  a lot!!
[08:12] <PriceChild> thanks nalioth :)
[08:15] <jussi01> Seveas: ping. Just a quick question, we dont seem to have bug - ability. is this normal?
[08:16] <Seveas> yes
[08:16] <Seveas> @config channel #ubuntustudio plugins.bugtracker.bugsnarfer True
[08:16] <ubotu> OK
[08:16] <jussi01> thanks seveas
[08:18] <nalioth> PriceChild: ubot3 is in #easyubuntu and some other Ubuntu-related but not official channels (it's good to look things up)
[08:18] <PriceChild> cool :) i didn't think easyubuntu was still going?
[08:18] <PriceChild> I thought they declared themselves obsolete and left it at that with about feisty?
[08:23] <nalioth> PriceChild: we still support Dapper drake
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> I'd think easyubuntu would be obsoleted by ubuntu-restricted-extras, so would have little point feisty+
[08:23] <PriceChild> Ahhhh makes sense :)
[08:23] <nalioth> and we get a awful lot of people in there thinking they need it for feisty
[08:24] <mc44> at least automatix still exists \o/ :P
[08:24] <jdong> tonyyarusso: heh codecscripts will only be obsoleted when we find a solution for DVD CSS and 32-bit Windows codecs.
[08:24] <nalioth> ah, someone would mention that travesty and run my blood pressure up
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> jdong: boo
[08:25] <jdong> tonyyarusso: same attitude here...
[08:25] <mc44> jdong: solution is simple, topple governments, change law :)
[08:25] <jdong> lol
[08:25] <jdong> in my experience, shoving WMV's back at management and telling them to stick it up where it belongs does NOT work...
[08:25] <jussi01> hehe
[08:26] <PriceChild> wow someone registered an account on a forum i help out on as "freesitebuilder" and it isn't spam...
[08:26] <jdong> one in a million...
[08:26] <jussi01> lol
[08:26] <jdong> like that guy who advertised this Windows music store on UbuntuForums and was a legit user....
[08:27] <mc44> PriceChild: they are on irc often...
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> jdong: maybe not quite that wording, but I frequently send polite-ish e-mails to people explaining why their choice of file format sucks.  For instance, Microsoft Publisher files??? You can't even open those on Windows without paying $300 for the software.
[08:27] <mc44> PriceChild: -uk I think
[08:28] <jdong> tonyyarusso: publisher is an easier one to explain, but often times the video recording equipment or software they have will only output in a WMV or other highly restricted format...
[08:28] <jdong> and that's a harder one to convince thm to change
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> jdong: meh - it shall be done!
[08:28] <jdong> because as far as they are concerned, it "works for all their machines"
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> just be more persistent
[08:28] <jdong> I will continue to be
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Or, just start sending all of your communications in Ogg, ODF, etc, and see if they get the hint :)
[08:28] <jdong> but in the meantime I still have to grudgingly install w32codecs from medibuntu :)
[08:29] <jdong> lol, I really should :)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> lol, so I searched for Ubuntu on facebook to find possible candidates for my new LoCo, and messaged them all, and got one false positive who was just talking about the philosophy, but it looks like we share a lot of interests so she friended me anyway :P
[08:32] <jdong> haha :) CAPITAL U! CAPITAL U!
[08:32] <mc44> zomg facebook spammerz
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> mc44: yaz
[08:52] <Myrtti> @now sydney
[08:52] <ubotu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: September 20 2007, 04:52:56 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 1 hour 7 minutes
[09:19] <Burgundavia> Seveas: you around?
[09:24] <nalioth> we locked him in #ubuntu-bots with a fresh lithium battery in his pocket
[09:25] <Burgundavia> nalioth: do you have channel access to #ubuntu?
[09:25] <Burgundavia> ie: can you remove me as an op?
[09:28] <nalioth> Burgundavia: i can.
[09:28] <nalioth> why would you want to be removed?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> the pinging gets annoying at times?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> but thats still more of removing name from bot
[09:31] <Burgundavia> nalioth: lack of time
[09:32] <nalioth> Burgundavia: there are many listed that have little time, but if you like i can remove you from the access list
[09:32] <Burgundavia> I am worried, given I am going to be on IRC less time, if my account get compromised, etc.
[09:32] <Burgundavia> principle of least priv and all that
[10:44] <high-freq> hello can u test me plz
[10:44] <ompaul> yes
[10:44] <high-freq> thx
[10:45] <ompaul> I guess you pass
[10:45] <high-freq> lol ;)
[10:45] <high-freq> thx
[10:45] <high-freq> can i get back into ubuntu now?
[10:45] <ompaul> not until I (A) find you in the ban list and b remove the ban
[10:45] <ompaul> I will tell ya 
[10:46] <ompaul> give me a mo
[10:46] <high-freq> oh ok ;)  hehe thx
[10:47] <ompaul> free to pass
[10:47] <high-freq> thx
[10:47] <mneptok> %btlogin
[10:47] <ubotu> An error has occurred and has been logged.
[10:48] <ompaul> mneptok, take off the shades
[10:49] <mneptok> ompaul: you're not the boss of me.
[10:49] <ompaul> mneptok, this I know
[10:49] <mneptok> oh ... wait. it's Talk Like A Pirate Day. maybe you are ...
[10:49] <ompaul> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:49] <mneptok> yar!
[10:50] <ompaul> ooch
[10:50] <ompaul> thats gotta hurt
[10:50] <mneptok> i hate the itching, but i don't mind the swelling.
[10:51] <ompaul> stop it
[10:52] <ompaul> use tcp
[10:53] <PriceChild> ompaul, are you using chanserv.py?
[10:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, I am
[10:53] <PriceChild> /cs bans nick
[10:53] <ompaul> does PriceChild want chanserv.py or should I download a new one
[10:53] <ompaul>  /cs b nick
[10:54] <PriceChild> no need for bantracker, if there's just the foo!#ubuntu-read-topic ban then tis safe to /cs u nick
[10:54] <PriceChild> /cs b nick?
[10:54] <ompaul> PriceChild, I am more lost than someone in a desert at night without a compass and a lot of cloud
[10:55] <PriceChild> ompaul, in #ubuntu, type /cs bans nzk
[10:55] <ompaul> PriceChild, ahh sorry I see what you mean
[10:55] <ompaul> ahh ] 
[10:56] <ompaul> I look up the servers bans and remove them :)
[10:56] <ompaul> ahh
[10:56] <ompaul> did not know that existed
[10:56] <PriceChild> means you don't have to check him on the bantracker :)
[10:56] <PriceChild> seen as /cs bans is more trustable
[10:56] <ompaul> yeap
[10:57] <ompaul> PriceChild, not the ban tracker
[10:57] <ompaul> I use the list bans
[10:57] <ompaul> was using 
[10:57] <ompaul> I will not going forward
[10:57] <PriceChild> ahhh, sorry
[10:57] <PriceChild> read that wrong
[10:57] <PriceChild> still quicker though
[10:57] <ompaul> the server maintains a list
[10:57] <ompaul> it is much 
[11:00] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/Burgundavia, //
[11:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[11:43] <PriceGuy> *wonders what that means*
[11:45] <mneptok> "to be or not to be"
[11:45] <PriceGuy> ahhhhh thankyou mneptok :)
[11:47] <mc44> PriceGuy?
[11:47] <mc44> You grew up?
[11:47] <PriceGuy> mc44, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555003
[11:49] <mc44> ZOMG CENSORSHIP
[11:49] <PriceGuy> mc44, only when I (PriceGuy) do it... its fine when Bapoumba does it.
[11:49] <Vorian> lol
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: just too busy with other things lately?
[11:52] <Tm_T> PriceGuy: I should censor your censors
[11:55] <mneptok> can we have an "Ubuntu Diploid Sporophytes" forum?
[11:56] <mneptok> i mean ... c'mon. the women get their own forum ...
[11:56] <Vorian> mneptok, you can request your 3rd party forum here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=231
[11:56] <PriceGuy> mneptok, bring it up at the next forum council meeting and i'm sure the admins would love to hear your proposals :)
[11:56] <Vorian> :P
[11:57] <gnomefreak> mneptok: they get thier own bedrooma nd locker room too
[11:57] <PriceGuy> we could maybe get a different theme for the section too?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> atleast my soon to be wife has own bedroom :(
[11:58] <mneptok> gnomefreak: smart woman. congratulations. ;)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> mneptok: thanks
[11:58] <gnomefreak> she has it for when we argue
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:59] <mneptok> my gal and i don't argue. we just have uncomfortable moments when i forget she's in charge.
[11:59] <Tm_T> awww
[12:00] <Tm_T> glad I'm too old for that stuff
[12:00] <mneptok> Tm_T: uhhh ... you're prolly a bit younger than me :)
[12:00] <Tm_T> mneptok: sure?
[12:00] <mneptok> see "prolly"
[12:00] <mc44> mneptok: you forget who wears the diapers in the relationship?
[12:01] <mneptok> mc44: the warm, moist feeling ensures i don't
[12:01] <mneptok> Tm_T: 1965 here. you?
[12:02] <Tm_T> mneptok: though I do have some holes in my memory about my youth, I do remember the grenade that did severe my left hip in southern Germany during WW I
[12:03] <mneptok> Tm_T: except WWI had no major engagements on German soil.
[12:03] <Tm_T> mneptok: I know that
[12:03] <Tm_T> mneptok: you think I was in major engagements and still would tell about it here?
[12:04] <mneptok> Tm_T: dude, #ubuntu *is* a major engagement :)
[12:04] <Tm_T> yes but not in WW I
[12:04] <Tm_T> #ubuntu came much later ;)
[12:37] <Tm_T> I'm very wealthy
[12:37] <Mez> I guessed, I know one person who is wealthy who has anything to do with ubuntu... lmao
[12:37] <Mez> Tm_T, ok, 2 people
[12:37] <Mez> Tm_T, wanna sponsor something ?
[12:37] <Tm_T> Mez: I have parents, home, and food enough to keep me alive, I'm very wealthy
[12:38] <Tm_T> oh, you mean money?
[12:38] <Tm_T> I got that too
[12:38] <mc44> I have a plane an multimillion business I sold in the internet boom
[12:38] <mc44> or is that sabdfl
[12:38] <mc44> I get confused
[12:38] <Pici> mc44: Oh, thats how you can be on irc all day
[12:38] <Mez> Tm_T, :P lol... well, if you wanna sponsor something :P
[12:38] <jdong> mc44: you just stole my joke
[12:38] <Tm_T> Mez: what it is?
[12:39] <Mez> Tm_T, Radio Amarok
[12:39] <jdong> mc44: and for the record I was on the word "space".....
[12:39] <Tm_T> Mez: you might get same amount that does red cross
[12:39] <jdong> :)
[12:39] <Mez> Tm_T, 0$ p/m ?
[12:39] <Pici> I donated money to the red cross.
[12:40] <Tm_T> more like 10  per month
[12:40] <Tm_T> Pici: I do every month
[12:40] <Pici> Yay!
[12:40] <Mez> Tm_T, If/when we setup a paypal account, I'll let you know the details ;)
[12:40] <mc44> I donated blood
[12:40] <mc44> they aint having my money
[12:40] <Pici> But they can take your soul?
[12:40] <Tm_T> mc44: nobody is having my blood
[12:41] <mc44> Pici: I sold that ages ago for some magic beans
[12:41] <Tm_T> and I'm not taking anybodys blood
[12:41] <Tm_T> my blood my body, thank you
[12:41] <jdong> I have this thing for needles...
[12:41] <jdong> oddly.
[12:41] <Pici> You could sell your kidneys
[12:41] <mc44> jdong: just taking things out, not in, I hope :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> even if I will die without extra blood, I wont take it
[12:41] <jdong> mc44: certainly :)
[12:42] <jdong> speaking of selling yourself for money...
[12:42] <Tm_T> haha
[12:42] <jdong> I just saw this poster on campus for egg bank donations....
[12:42] <jdong> and SHEESH YOU LADIES ARE LUCKY
[12:42] <Tm_T> I have refused to do paid job because of volunteer job =)
[12:42] <Pici> jdong: They have whole billboards for that here
[12:43] <jdong> Pici: the amount of money you get is outrageous :)
[12:43] <jdong> do it twice and you've paid through MIT....
[12:43] <jdong> but for us males... nooo, it's worthless in comparison
[12:43] <mc44> slight difference though
[12:43] <Pici> supply vs demand
[12:43] <Tm_T> jdong: is it our fault you're worthless =)
[12:44] <jdong> lol
[12:44] <mc44> jdong: donating for men is much more fun
[12:44] <jdong> mc44: LMFAO
[12:44] <mc44> also eggs are finite if I remember sex ed
[12:45] <Tm_T> oh boy
[12:45] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-ops on topic as always
[12:46] <Mez> hmmless...
[12:46] <jdong> mc44: that's somewhat correct
[12:46] <jdong> mc44: also, egg donation could cause some pretty unfortunate complications for females
[12:46] <Tm_T> you men are weird
[12:46] <Tm_T> or, rather all hu-mans
[12:47] <mneptok> Tm_T: but great on a cracker.
[12:47] <Tm_T> mneptok: perhaps
[12:48] <mc44> mneptok: like caviar?
[12:49] <mneptok> mc44: LIKE A STURGEON! HARVESTED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!
[12:49] <mc44> :D
[12:51] <Tm_T> but oh oh wheeee!
[12:51] <Tm_T> I will get my Ubuntu backpack this week!
[12:51] <Tm_T> ...I hope
[12:52] <Seeker`> Ubuntu backpack?
[12:54] <Tm_T> yes
[12:55] <Tm_T> https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=47
[12:55] <stdin> it's a backpack that's brown :p
[12:55] <Pici> That says black/red
[12:55] <stdin> aww, it's actually not brown
[12:55] <Pici> And they call it a rucksack
[12:55] <Tm_T> whatever =)
[12:55] <Tm_T> "NOT SUITABLE FOR LAPTOPS." =) =)
[12:56] <Tm_T> how convenient
[12:56] <mc44> hmm, the chocolate hoody is quite cute
[12:56] <Tm_T> mc44: thats what I will get next
[12:57] <Pici> Thats more of a gibbon color than chocolate
[12:57] <mc44> I'd get if it wasn't so expensive
[12:59] <Tm_T> I would love to get thick grey Ubuntu businees-style shirt
[01:00] <Tm_T> that would go well with my jacket
[01:02] <Tm_T> aaah!
[01:02] <Tm_T> thats it!
[01:10] <Tm_T> muhahaha
[01:10] <Tm_T> I know now exactly what my jacket is missing
[01:11] <Pici> a backpack?
[01:11] <Tm_T> no
[01:11] <Tm_T> ubuntu logos in shoulders
[01:12] <PriceChild> rucksack!
[01:12] <Pici> no real people call them rucksacks