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Jester45convert it to iso then run sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/empty/directory01:18
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viddwhat is the command to rename a directory?01:41
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RamenManI have a pentium 1 processor01:42
RamenMan233 mega hurtz i believe01:42
RamenMan190 somethin megs of ram01:43
RamenManand a bios with a date of 199901:43
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RamenManthe install is hanging right after the detect hardwaret hing01:43
RamenManhardware thing*01:44
RamenMandoes anyone have any suggestions?01:44
viddrun the alt cd01:44
RamenMani am01:44
RamenManits the alternate text installer01:44
RamenManand thats where its hanging at01:44
RamenManim sooo bummed01:44
vidddunno01:45
RamenMananyone else?01:45
Jester45try taking out all unneeded things like network cards audio cards etc01:55
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phylisshello02:33
phylissI am relatively new to Linux and Ubuntu and need help with a Xubuntu install02:33
phylissEverything is going well, but I can't get the wireless card to hook up to a wireless network02:33
phylissI have downloaded and installed the ndiswrapper and the driver that came with the card02:34
phylissa Linksys WPC54GS02:35
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phylissanyone?02:39
nonlocal!wifi02:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:40
nonlocalsorry I can't be of specific help, it's been a long time since I setup madwifi and I'll have to learn it all over next time I do it :)02:41
phylissI've been poring over the WiFi docs and nothing is working so far, but thanks02:42
phylissanyone else have any ideas?02:42
viddphyliss, what does lspci (if its a pci card) say?02:42
phylisshold on, and I will tell you02:43
viddis the card a bcm43xx card?02:43
phyliss0000:00:0f.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)02:43
viddthat explains why you are having issues02:44
phylissone of the wifi docs says that the BCM4318 means that a lot of the stuff on their installtion instructions doesn't apply02:44
phylissany potential solutions?02:44
viddif you are going to use ndiswrapper, you need to blacklist the native driver....02:44
phylissI just read a thread about the blacklist....02:45
phylisshow do I go about doing that?02:45
viddif you are going to run the native driver, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter02:45
viddand get rid of that sell-out app ndiswrapper02:46
phylisshow do I uninstall ndis? via synaptics?02:46
viddhow did you install it?02:47
phylisscommand line02:47
viddapt-get? aptitude?02:47
phylisshere's an error I get with the code you just sent:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:47
phylissE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?'02:47
viddso is synaptic running?02:48
phylissI believe, apt-get02:48
phylissYes, I have it up right now02:48
viddthat is why you get that error02:49
phylissok, let me shut it and try it again02:49
viddso either use synaptic to add bcm43xx02:49
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viddor close it and use command line02:49
phylissit's working now...didn't know that it wouldn't work with Synaptics open02:50
phylissso, I'm downloading a Linux native driver?02:50
phylissit says it's done02:51
viddno...the native driver is built into the kernel....what you did is get the firmware to use it02:51
phylissoh, cool...the command in the wifi docs didn't get the result I just got02:52
viddnow you need to undo what ever you did to install ndiswrapper02:52
phylissDo I need to remove ndiswrapper? If so, what is the cleanest way to do that?02:52
viddthen set up your network02:53
phylissthanks very much by the way, for the help02:53
phylissshould this work?  sudo make uninstall ndiswrapper02:55
nonlocalif you compiled it that should work02:55
phylissshoot...it didn't, it said "make command not found"02:55
nonlocalyou need to be in the ndiswrapper directory02:55
nonlocalhttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,uninstall/02:56
nonlocalmight help02:56
Jester45whats the driver for ext3 on windows02:56
Jester45i cant seem to find it02:56
phylissexcellent, thanks02:57
nonlocalJester45:  ext2IFS?02:57
Jester45just found that02:57
Jester45i couldnt remeber the name either02:57
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michaelpohow do i get options globetrotter 3g card working? i've installed gcom.. then i run the command at terminal: gcom -d /dev/noz0... it seems i'm connected to the 3g... but... how do i get ubuntu to connect through the 3g card? how do i setup at the -> system -> network?04:07
michaelpoSIM ready04:08
michaelpoWaiting for Registration..(120 sec max)04:08
michaelpoRegistered on Home network: "MY MAXIS",204:08
michaelpoSignal Quality: 20,9904:08
michaelpo!globetrotter04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about globetrotter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:09
michaelpo!nozomi04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nozomi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:09
michaelpo!3g04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:10
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phylissI could really use some help in getting my wireless working on my Xubuntu machine. I'm trying to get a Linksys W54GS PCI card to connect05:34
phylissI've read the wifi docs to death, but they don't seem to work well with Xubuntu05:35
phylissI tried ndiswrapper with no luck, and someone suggested trying just the default install and I downloaded the firmware files and still no luck. The network applet shows the card, but identifies it as "eth1" and won't scan or connect to a wireless network05:36
phylissdoes anyone have any ideas?05:43
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phylissHello? I see "76 users" in this room, but no chatter...can someone please help?05:48
phylisshello????05:55
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phylissI could really use some help in getting my wireless working on my Xubuntu machine. I'm trying to get a Linksys W54GS PCI card to connect06:02
phylissAm I in the right IRC channel to get support for Xubuntu?06:10
Jester45yes you are06:12
phylisswow, thanks06:15
phylissWhy is the channel so quiet with all these users?06:15
Jester45np :) just trying to help to bad i dont know how to setup wireless06:15
Jester45because most of the are away06:15
Jester45them*06:15
Jester45i have been away for a while and just got on and saw you talking to your self :) its gets busy in here some times some times its dead06:16
phylissOK, well thanks anyway...maybe someone will feel sorry for me and lead this xubuntu newbie down the road to a solution06:17
tonyyarussophyliss: I'd help you.......if my card hadn't worked out of the box and I therefore had a clue how to06:23
phylissappreciate it Tony06:24
tonyyarussohave you tried command-line configuration?  (ie 'iwlist scan', etc06:24
phylisshaven't found that one yet...I"m trying a solution right now that I found on the forums (possible solution)06:25
tonyyarussohttp://www.kosmaczewski.net/blogs/tech/archives/2006/02/how_to_install_1.php maybe?06:27
phylissYes, I found that one earlier today, but no joy unfortunately06:28
tonyyarussowell boo06:28
phylissI'm trying this one now:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990&highlight=WPC54GS06:33
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PlaidRadishanyone here running ubuntustudio apps and settings in a xubuntu DE?07:19
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kikrhow is ubuntu on tablet pc's?08:41
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jarnosI have lost all sound in Feisty. Yesterday it worked better. I installed WengoPhone from http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/DebianUbuntuPackages and updated my system.09:22
jarnos..which BTW had not been updated for a while since I had forgotten to install update-notifier!09:25
jarnosAnybody knows how do I get a list of software available at certain repository?09:37
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jarnosoops.. not all soud is gone, gxine can play wma stream :)10:37
jarnosI meant sound10:37
jarnosBut for example in Ekiga configuration druid I get "10:39
jarnosImpossible to open the selected audio device (Intel ICH6) for recording. Please check your audio setup, the permissions and that the device is not busy." when I click Test Setting. It worked better yesterday :|10:39
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nicox84good morning10:53
nicox84i need some help, because i have an error upgrading to gutsy10:53
nicox84can somebody help?10:54
jarnosI am still struggling with sound in Feisty.10:56
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jarnosApplications such as audacious, VLC, and alsaplayer won't play sound, but gxine does.10:58
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jarnosAlso flash won't play sound in Firefox anymore.11:00
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jarnosSound playback works again with the above mentioned applications. I had to restart Xubuntu, though. Flashback from Windows :|11:35
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neabhi could someone remind me where the .desktop files are held.12:25
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jarnosneab, try command locate .desktop12:31
neabok, but is there any way to search through the output?12:35
jarnosneab, search what?12:37
jarnosneab, you can scroll in terminal emulator.12:38
neab-_-12:38
neabtheres a hundred entries12:38
jarnosneab, or pipe the output to a file and "less" the file.12:38
neabthats ">" right?12:39
jarnosneab,  locate .desktop | less12:39
jarnosneab, i think so.12:39
neabkinda works12:40
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neabthing is I'm looking for the .desktop files for the open office xfce-menu entries12:43
neabbecause when I specify a particular module its doesnt load them12:43
neabIt throws up a window where I have to click "new=>text document" again12:44
TheSheepneab: /usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop12:47
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jarnosIs there any basic way I can test microphone?12:54
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jarnosIs there a way to list all software available / installed from certain repository?01:17
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Eskil83Hello, I have a just installed xubuntu for the first time (most used to ubuntu). Installed it on a old computer and everything works well except when i try to open up the "terminal" then im thrown out to the login window again01:27
Eskil83Anyone have a clue how I fix this?01:28
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darrendEskil83: which version of xubuntu?01:34
Eskil83Feisty fawn01:34
darrendanything in your Xorg log?01:35
Eskil83Not sure where I find that01:35
darrend/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old probably01:35
Eskil83i'll check it01:36
darrendor possibly even the current one (without the .old extension)01:36
darrendgrep it for 'EE'01:36
darrendor look at the last few dozen lines of it01:36
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grimbaluzWho know when Xubuntu cds will be available for shipping?04:58
vinzeProbably not in a while04:58
vinzeBut as Xubuntu will probably more prominently focus on user-friendliness like Ubuntu does perhaps Canonical/Mark Shuttleworth might think it to be worthy of shipping ;)04:59
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viddvinze, xubuntu will probably NEVER be shipped05:08
vinzeNever say never ;-)05:08
viddif it wasn't for the need to get linux into schools, edubuntu wouldn't ship either05:10
vinzeBut if Xfce ever were to get a market share about the size of Gnome or KDE, perhaps it would ;-)05:11
vinzeBut currently it is seen as "too specialistic"05:11
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viddand it would appear that the developers are working very hard at making it a clone of gnome05:11
vinzeCome one, there still are lots of advantages over Gnome05:12
TheSheepunless there is a great change in the organisation of ubuntu projects, xubuntu has a samll chance for being shipped05:12
viddand they are dropping steadily as gutsy gets closer to release05:12
vinzeWhat's wrong with looking like Gnome?05:12
viddLOOK is fine......05:13
viddmassive, unneeded gnome dependencies is NOT fine05:13
TheSheepvidd: massive undneeded gnome deps?05:13
TheSheepvidd: can you name one?05:13
viddnot by name...i havent installed lately05:15
TheSheepvidd: so what are you basing your complaints on?05:15
viddfrom the install i did a month or 2 ago...from a dist-upgrade05:16
TheSheepvidd: and what dependency was so massive and unneeded back then?05:17
vinzeWhen a dependency is there to improve on user-friendliness, it is not uneeded05:18
vinze*unneeded05:18
TheSheepvinze: that's not why they allowed some gnome libs05:18
viddthere should be NOTHING installed named gnome-*05:18
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vinzeTheSheep, what is it then?05:18
TheSheepvinze: they did it because removing them was a lot of work and introduced bugs and really was just copy-pasting the code from the gnome libs into the application05:19
vinzeYeah, but then they also could've used other apps couldn't they?05:19
TheSheepvinze: the libraries they allowed was gnome-vfs and something more, both pretty small05:19
TheSheepvinze: no, because there are not other apps with the same functionality but without gnome libs05:20
vinzeAh OK05:20
vinzeBut still, it is not unneeded ;)05:20
TheSheepvinze: and the apps with slightle less functionality are not supported anymore05:20
TheSheepvinze: there is practically no cd/dvd burining application for gtk that would still be supported05:21
vinzeBottom line: there is no real alternative to shipping gnome libs considering Xubuntu's target audience05:21
viddthey are adding a "places" app... a useless indulgence that xubuntu was perfectly fine without05:22
TheSheepvinze: I think it's more about the amount of work required to get them rolling -- the current xubuntu team can't really dream of keeping all the non-ubuntu apps updated05:22
vinzeTheSheep, lack of manpower sucks :(05:22
vinzevidd, there are many people (including me) that welcome the Places app05:22
TheSheepvidd: I *love* the places plugin, I was attempting to write one myself some year ago (never got it working), I filled a bug with a request for this and I05:23
TheSheep'm using it every day05:23
vinzeI'd use it every day if I were using Gutsy05:23
TheSheepand it's absolutely the best panel plugin to date05:23
viddso make it available via the "add to panel" rather then force me to try to figure out how to get rid of it05:23
TheSheepvidd: you *still* don't know how to remove applets from the panel? :)05:24
vinzeIt's easier to find out how to remove the Places plugin than to find out it exists and how to add it05:24
viddi want to get it off my system...not just hide it from view05:24
vinzeJust because I don't need the Applications menu because I can right-click the desktop doesn't mean it should be removed!05:24
viddthe thunar launcher on the panel works just fine05:25
TheSheepvidd: honestly, the places plugin is a great thing, shame the gnome guys are getting rid of it and replacing it with WindowsXP-like start menu05:25
vinzevidd, you know you are being unreasonable. Just because the Thunar launcher works fine for you it does mean that is the case for everyone05:26
viddits a useless waste of space05:26
vinzevidd, you are the first person I've heard of that finds it useless05:27
TheSheepit's the only way to access my drives because I don't have icons on my desktop05:27
TheSheep(I can't have them on the desktop, I do graphics work and they distract me)05:27
vinzeMe neither05:27
viddyou cant access your drives in thunar???05:27
TheSheepvidd: no, it doesn't have them in the menu05:28
vinzeTheSheep, and the Places menu does?05:28
TheSheepvinze: yes05:28
viddso its a shortcoming of thunar05:28
vinzeWeird... How could that be?05:28
TheSheepvidd: indeed05:28
viddso fix thunar rather then import a gnome app with all it's dependencies05:29
TheSheepvidd: still, the places plugin was written faster than they took care of my bug report/feature request for thunar05:29
TheSheepvidd: and as far as I know, the places plugin is now serving as a testing ground for future thunar functionalities05:29
TheSheepvidd: (it's easier to test on small app)05:29
TheSheepvidd: including mounting of samba shares05:29
vinzeAnd when I'd first open Thunar it would first have to load all the files in my home directory before I could go to my drives05:30
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vinzePlaces plugin makes it easy to go directly to my drives saving me time05:30
vinzeSee ya05:30
TheSheepvinze: and zeroconf-advertised nfs and ftp shares too, of course05:30
vinzeThose too, but I don't use them ;)05:30
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vinzeI'm off again, later05:39
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Ben_Cshello06:17
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nikolamHello to all06:46
nikolamIs there any way to check my installation to see if all my libraries are corecly installed.06:47
nikolamI have a bunch of programs that dont want to work06:47
nikolamSo I want to check those installed files if they are correct06:47
nikolamAnd to see if they are all 64 bit and not by mistake installed 32 bit instead of them06:48
nikolamMy Xubuntu is 64bit install06:48
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SoulChildwhy do i have a eth2 device but no eth1 ???06:58
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rijoHello, im having trouble finding the tool to connect to a network file server unit. Where do I find that tool?07:05
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SoulChildHow do i update udev ????07:12
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wyrdrijo, what kind of file server is it?07:20
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nikolamnego, koji Ubuntu ti vrti?08:33
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nikolamjel 32 bit il 64_08:33
nikolamSorry08:33
nikolamWrong channel08:33
Ben_Csor else you're trying to teach us a new language? :)08:34
hyper__chlooks like a slavish language08:35
TheSheephyper__ch: nope08:35
TheSheephyper__ch: or maybe08:36
hyper__chheheh08:36
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kalamihi, I just have a quick question. Anybody there?09:27
viddwhats up?09:27
kalamihey, vidd. do you know of any pppoe-setup or adsl-setup in xubuntu?09:28
viddim looking09:30
kalamiok, thanks. me too09:30
viddtry this http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-broadband-adsl-pppoe-client-rp-pppoe09:31
kalamiok. hold on.09:32
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kalamioh, sorry but I can't use an internet connection from the very beginning. i was hoping if there was any way to connect using the default binaries in xubuntu09:33
ThunarboyI was messing about with openbox and I messed up xfce, Everytime I start xfce, xfwm doesn't start, i have to press alt+f2 and run "xfmw4" from there. Anybody know what's wrong and how I can fix it?09:34
viddno broadband router?09:34
kalaminope. just a direct connection (to the modem)09:34
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viddso why not download the needed apps as .deb's and put them on a disk....09:35
viddthen you can install them on the machine you need09:36
kalamii'm using a default live cd.09:36
viddso the live cd gets you connected?09:36
Thunarboycan anybody help me here?09:36
kalamiit's kinda annoying that xubuntu doesn't have pppoe but has ppp and wvdial installed.09:37
vinzeThunarboy, what's the problem?09:37
kalamithe live cd can get me connected if there a pppoe binary installed by default09:37
Thunarboykalami: I was messing about with openbox and I messed up xfce, Everytime I start xfce, xfwm doesn't start, i have to press alt+f2 and run "xfmw4" from there. How can I fix this?09:37
kalamiis there any equivalent of that?09:37
viddso what are you connected to now?09:37
Thunarboythanks09:37
kalamii'm using a windows machine, atm.09:38
kalamisorry Thunarboy, I have no idea about your issue.09:38
vinzeThunarboy, you *could* add "xfwm4" to Applications->Settings->Autostarted Applications09:38
vinzeIt's kinda workaroundish, but it should do the trick09:38
viddok...so on the windows machine....get the .deb's you need for that how-to09:38
kalamibut I already burned the cd.09:39
viddyeah....?09:39
kalamiso there's no way to add packages anymore.09:39
Thunarboyvinze: Thanks, I'll stick it in autostart09:39
viddso use the disk....09:39
kalamiyou mean the mounted NTFS drives?09:40
viddbut also (on another disk or usb drive)09:40
kalamioh, yeah. why haven't I thought of that? Thanks!09:40
kalamiI'll look for a pppoe binary. hold on.09:40
kalamiThanks again, vidd! I just downloaded pppoe and will give it a try later on.09:46
viddcool09:51
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thrashyHow do I stop pinging if I pinged an ip?09:59
vinzeCtrl+C if you did it in the Terminal09:59
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thrashyah thanks09:59
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vinzenp09:59
viddctrl+c will stop any active command running in terminal10:00
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greghi10:30
gregRemoving ttf-opensymbol ...10:30
gregUpdating fontconfig cache...10:30
greg/usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache10:30
greg/usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache10:30
greghow do i fix it?10:30
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TheSheepgreg: make some room on your disk :)10:32
gregTheSheep i have 12gigs free10:32
TheSheepgreg: on /10:32
gregyes on /10:33
TheSheepgreg: no other messages?10:33
gregdpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--remove):10:33
greg subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1010:33
gregErrors were encountered while processing:10:33
greg ttf-opensymbol10:33
gregand it gave same error for rest of fonts10:34
TheSheepgreg: what happens when you do: sudo fc-cache -f -s10:34
greg/usr/share/fonts: failed to write cache10:34
greg/usr/share/fonts/X11: failed to write cache10:34
gregagain10:34
TheSheepwait, I think I've seen this before10:34
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TheSheepbug 10455310:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 104553 in fontconfig "upgrade failed when fontconfig cache dirs are newer than system date" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10455310:35
TheSheepha!10:35
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gregTheSheep wheres the solution ..?10:37
TheSheephttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2401087&postcount=410:38
TheSheepthe link was in comments10:38
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equinoxehello to everyone10:44
vinzeHey10:45
equinoxei have a little problem... I can't get a clean login in xubuntu10:45
equinoxeall the applications start again10:45
vinzeWhat do you mean by "clean"?10:45
equinoxeat it makes me crazy10:45
vinzeOh...10:45
equinoxe:|10:45
vinzeYou could try closing them, loggin out and select "Save session"10:45
gregTheSheep didnt work10:45
equinoxeit isn't checked...10:45
vinzeBut if you do when you have all applications closed, they won't start when you login again10:46
vinzeOf course, the next time you logout you'll have to uncheck it again10:46
equinoxethey are closed10:46
equinoxeI'm closing each 7 each time10:46
equinoxe:|10:46
vinzeYeah, but after doing that you should logout and check "Save session"10:46
TheSheepequinoxe: delete the ~/.cache/sessions/10:46
vinzeOr you could do that ;-)10:47
equinoxecan I make them not to EVER do that again?10:47
equinoxe:|10:47
vinzeNever check the "Save session" box again :)10:47
TheSheepgreg: then no idea. at least you know what's happening. did you change your computer's time recently?10:47
equinoxeok10:47
gregTheSheep, no10:47
TheSheepvinze: I wonder why is it still there? :)10:47
equinoxethanks to everybody10:47
equinoxeI'm going to try this10:48
equinoxehehe10:48
gregi got this error installing open office?10:48
vinzeOK we'll see how it works out :)10:48
equinoxeyeah10:48
equinoxegod bye for now10:48
equinoxehehe10:48
equinoxegood10:48
vinzeSee ya10:48
TheSheepgreg: you can try 'touch'-ing all the directories on which it errors10:48
gregk10:51
gregseems to work10:51
TheSheepgreg: great10:51
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equinoxeback again10:52
vinzeequinoxe, and?10:52
equinoxeyes, it's fine10:52
TheSheep\o/10:52
vinzeYay!10:52
equinoxeIt feels so good10:52
equinoxenot to have 2 Aby instances each time I start the computer10:53
TheSheepseriously, that checkbox should be removed10:53
equinoxeuf hehe10:53
equinoxeYES10:53
equinoxeagree10:53
vinzeYeah or at least unchecked by default10:53
TheSheeplets fill a bug report :D10:53
equinoxeI'm used with KDE style..10:53
equinoxewhere10:53
equinoxewhen it's UNCHECKD10:53
equinoxenothing restarts10:53
equinoxeI do not want to save a session from the last year...10:54
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equinoxeand have it again and again and again and again10:54
equinoxehehe10:54
TheSheepequinoxe: I guess some computer geeks don't likechanges ;)10:54
equinoxebug report, that would be my first complain ever hehe10:55
equinoxeI had to use xubuntu on the computer I am now10:55
equinoxebecause it's PIII 80010:55
equinoxeMy MOM's computer10:55
TheSheepequinoxe: I learned that the xfce guys really listen to complaints when they are well written and motiovated10:55
equinoxeeh, I'll send them a picture with my mom's face10:55
equinoxeclosing AGAIN the applications10:56
equinoxehehe10:56
vinzeHaha10:56
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equinoxethat should be motivated10:56
equinoxehehe10:56
equinoxeshe does'n exit10:56
equinoxethe normal way10:57
equinoxeshe just pushes the button10:57
equinoxethe power button10:57
equinoxeand so...10:57
equinoxethe little check box10:57
equinoxeis todally useless10:57
zoredacheis the computer have the power managment features that allows you to make the power button initiate a shutdown?10:57
equinoxeand when I had to fix the problem.. ah.. easy... uncheck Save Session10:58
equinoxeand I'm good to go..10:58
equinoxebut no10:58
equinoxethanks again hehe10:58
zoredachehave you tried starting the programs with the -sm-disable switch?10:58
Jester45!enter10:58
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:58
vinze\o/10:58
equinoxewell, yes10:59
equinoxeit shuts down10:59
equinoxejust fine10:59
equinoxeah, now it's fixed10:59
equinoxedon't have to worry hehe10:59
equinoxei SAVED the CLEAN session11:00
equinoxeand it's fine hehe11:00
Jester45!enter | equinoxe11:00
ubotuequinoxe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:00
Jester45its very irritating switching back and forth thinking someone was asking a question11:01
equinoxeah, well... sorry. I'm not used with IRC... and this kind of real time forums11:01
equinoxeand thanks again. good bye11:02
vinzeBye11:02
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nonlocalhaha.. IRC = real time forum... nice.11:21
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TheSheepnonlocal: anywhere you talk in public is a 'forum'11:26
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Jester45what about speeches TheSheep11:38
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nonlocalTheSheep:  that is a particularly broad definition. I wouldn't call my discussion at the coffee shop a forum, even if my neighbours are eavesdropping11:48
nonlocaltown hall type meeting sure11:48
nonlocalbut it's not the semantics of the word 'forum' that amused me, it's clear he meant forum in the phpBB-type sense.11:48
KilrooThat reminds me, I was going to look into some things.11:49
nonlocalKilroo:  glad I could help ;)11:49
KilrooI had almost decided I wanted to use SMF if I set up a forum on my webspace again, and then I read some stuff about the SMF licensing and decided I'd rather write my own. And I don't want to write my own.11:50
nonlocalEverytime I take up a project I decide I want to write my own, and I'm pretty sure that's why I never finish my projects..heh11:51
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greghelp12:51
gregmy pc started beeping every time i type a letter12:51
Arkhwhy?12:58
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