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tekstacyDoes kubuntu keep track of temperature as good as XP? I get a bit nervous with this laptop12:40
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BluesKajtekstacy, if anything it should run cooler on kubuntu than windows from what i've heard here12:42
tekstacyCool   :)   It does seem to use less resources, so that is some hope12:43
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Ch1ppy...no one knows how to renew a DHCP lease?12:44
BluesKajlappys still need good air circlulation12:44
tekstacyCh1ppy, sorry12:44
Ch1ppy:S one would think that would be pretty simple :S12:44
Ch1ppyoh well12:44
BluesKajwhat do you mean dhcp lease renewal?12:44
Ch1ppyer12:45
Ch1ppyI have a DHCP address12:45
Ch1ppyand I need a new one12:45
Ch1ppyhowever, if I ifdown/ifup, I get the same one12:45
tekstacytype "/list" and see if you find a better place to ask.12:45
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dappermuistekstacy, my cpu fan was stuffed from all the dust that was building up inside of it - windows said absolutely nothing about it, whereas linux told me that there was a problem and went into a "slower" operating mode12:46
dappermuisCh1ppy, just curious why you need a new ip?12:46
dappermuisoh, and i don't know how to tell it to get a new one, but you could always just hardcode it?12:46
tekstacyFrom what I understand, my ISP renews my DHCP lease every 24 hours, no way to change that12:47
Ch1ppydappermuis: I'm in res @ my uni, and they throttle you if you don't have a valid DHCP lease... every day I come back from class and my DHCP lease is no longer valid, and I can't ever get a new one12:47
dappermuisCh1ppy, i see12:48
Ch1ppyyeah12:48
dappermuishmm, don't know how to do that :/12:48
Ch1ppyand I don't like getting throttled to 10kb/s12:48
Ch1ppyso...12:48
BluesKajno dynamic IP addys allowed there12:48
Ch1ppywhat do you mean?12:49
tekstacyYou're in college, arn't you supposed to steal someone else's connection anyway?12:49
BluesKajautomatic IP change everytime you connect to the net12:49
Ch1ppytekstacy: yes, the universities :P12:50
dappermuisCh1ppy, as far as i understand DHCP is conifigured to get the most recently used IP if possible, which means you'r trying to get DHCP to do what it's not "meant" to do12:50
Ch1ppyBluesKaj: I have to use a DHCP IP from them12:50
Ch1ppydappermuis: probably, but I don't really have a choice in the matter :S12:50
dappermuiswhich puts you in a rather touch spot12:50
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Ch1ppyyeah12:50
tekstacySmoke break.   Thanks for the help everyone12:51
dappermuissee the man for dhcp-options12:51
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stdin!away > tekstacy|elsewhe12:52
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dappermuisurgh, im going to bed - have class tomorrow12:53
BluesKajCh1ppy, I thought UBC was bit more enlightened than that...my son attended Uvic and he never had such troubles ... that's a bummer :(12:53
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Ch1ppyBluesKaj: yeah, no kidding.  It's very annoying actually12:53
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Ch1ppyAlthough they do have instructions for Debian that I just found, trying that out12:54
BluesKajmight work12:54
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Ch1ppyhm, I think I may have got it12:58
Ch1ppyI had to use pump to manually refresh the address12:59
kristjan_how do I run compiz? alt-f2 'compiz --replace'?12:59
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Ch1ppykristjan_: I believe so, yes12:59
ScorpKingdoes anyone here know how to write .scm files for gimp?01:00
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shadowhywindhay all I am going to start taking my laptop to class, And i am looking for some note taking programs *Sort of like windows onenote* I have tried basket but its features are limited. Any ideas?01:00
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Tm_TI have no idea what kind of program this "onenote" is01:02
shadowhywindonenote is sort of like KDE's basket program. But it allows you to say "draw" where ever.01:02
BluesKajheh, get an mp3 player with a mic & record functions01:03
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shadowhywindwould be a bad idea, prof has a very strong accent01:03
BluesKajheh, what else is new ...yer lucky he speaks your language :)01:04
shadowhywindI have found a program (xournel) that will allow me to draw over stuff.. But it wont let me type txt in *since its made for a tablet pc*.01:04
shadowhywindblueskaj true01:04
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Alp`hi there01:16
CBZ32hi01:17
Alp`i made a mistake (dont even know which one), and now i cant log in to kde. i made something in the system configuration i think, but i only remember that i changed the wallpaper for the login process01:17
CBZ32:)01:17
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Alp`however, if i login and choose kde to boot, then i see that wallpaper for very short time and get back to the login screen again01:17
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Alp`atm i'm in recovery mode, only with console01:18
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Alp`and i have no idea where to check for errors01:18
Alp`if i go to console and startx then i only see a black screen and nothing happens01:18
CBZ32:(01:18
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Alp`any ideas?01:19
CBZ32that really suck... i have no idea.. didyou try to login as root ?01:20
Alp`no01:20
BluesKajAlp`, maybe your xorg file needs reconfiguring ..have you ever edited the xserver-xorg file ?01:20
Alp`BluesKaj: i did. my last change was replacing the mouse driver. but i tested it and it was fine. i think i didnt changed anything after that01:21
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Alp`but i could try to start with a backuped one01:21
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Alp`well let me try that... brb01:23
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Alp`i used an older xorg.conf which is 100% ok01:26
Alp`no change01:26
Alp`what could i do now?01:26
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BluesKajAlp`, going thru and reconfiguring X ..  " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "01:28
Alp`BluesKaj: what does this command? replacing my xorg.conf or more than this?01:29
BluesKajerr " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "01:29
BluesKajit makes some driver changes to the graphics card and monitor if you choose to do so , just to get you back to a working X and desktop01:30
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Alp`BluesKaj: ok. brb :)01:30
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Alp`BluesKaj:  that didnt change anything01:35
Alp`BluesKaj: the best thing would be a log file or errorlog01:36
Alp`dunno where to find that01:36
BluesKajexit and reboot01:36
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Alp`what do you mean?01:37
Alp`if i reboot i get the same results01:37
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Alp`oh restart x server... i understand01:37
BluesKajfor the xorg changes01:38
Alp`yeah sry, my fault01:38
Alp`brb01:38
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Alp`the new xorg doesnt work01:42
Alp`BluesKaj: i get the same annoying problem01:42
Alp`the error should be somewhere else01:42
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BluesKajok try this Alp` sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart01:42
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panotxohola yonkis del linux01:43
Alp`with ?01:43
BluesKajat the prompt01:44
Alp`i meant, is the "?" right?01:44
Alp`i see this: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart01:45
BluesKajoh sorry kdm or gdm depending on what desktop01:45
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Alp`ah ok. its kde01:45
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BluesKajthen it's kdm01:46
Alp`i try that01:46
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Alp`thanks for all the help01:46
BluesKajthank me if it works :)01:46
Alp`yeah i will :)01:46
zengen_Does anyone know if there are any linux counterparts to mIRC with Autoget?01:47
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BluesKajzengen_, you can run mirc in wine ...itworks quite well01:47
stdinyeah you can use the ugly, ugly thing known as "mIRC" in wine if you want01:48
zengen_Yeah, I've tried that.  Autoget is mess in wine, though.01:48
BluesKajheheh01:48
BluesKajok, autoget is dangerous01:48
BluesKajadvise against it unless you trust the source implicitly01:48
zengen_Doesn't really matter, I can't use it :/  Was hoping there something like it for one of the linux clients.01:49
CBZ32I believe "Konversation" has auto-get01:49
CBZ32it has... just checked :)01:50
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betimhow do I install flash player for konqueror?01:51
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stdin!flash | betim01:52
ubotubetim: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:52
BluesKajadept has flashplugin-nonfree01:53
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zengen_cbz32, Where is it?  I can't find anything like it in konversation.01:53
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BluesKajzengen_, dunno if it's auto-get but there's an auto-accept download option in settings/configure/dcc01:57
BluesKajwell, tvtime with wifey for a bit, BBL01:58
CBZ32c ya01:58
CBZ32:)01:58
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Alp`there i am02:06
Alp`still struggling02:06
Alp`but i looked at the console with CTRL-ALT-F8 and there it says after trying to start kde:02:07
Alp`* running local boot scripts: /etc/rc.local02:07
Alp`[OK] 02:07
Alp`but nothing after that02:07
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Alp`i looked into that rc.local. its only content is "exit 0"02:07
Alp`but commenting out everything didnt change anything02:08
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_dennisterhey channel, it's been almost a year since i worked with dapper, so i need some help with the cdrom drive...it's freezing up entire system whenever i try to mount it02:22
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AirstrikeIvanovHi everyone. How can I make sure that OSS audio is working on my machine?02:22
nosrednaekimswitch to the OSS driver in the control center02:23
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AirstrikeIvanovCause I tried to use it in Wine and it didnt work02:23
stdinOSS won't work with ALSA and vice-versa02:23
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stdinyou'll also need to kill artsd02:24
_dennisterstdin...hey :)02:24
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_dennisterlong time no chat...would you be able to help me with this cdrom drive?02:24
_dennisteror has everyone forgotten dapper, like me?02:25
stdindon't know, I haven't used dapper since it was releases (switched straight to feisty devel version)02:25
stdincheck dmesg for messages tho02:25
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_dennisteryeah, so did i, but now my son's fried his video card and i've loaned him my spare...a 10-year-old pentium 2, and i'm tired of this drive freezing the system02:26
_dennistertotal system crash whenever i try to mount it02:26
_dennisterhmmm...1st relevant (of 3) dmesg error: hdc: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }02:29
_dennisterthen: hdc: set_drive_speed_status: error=0xb4 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x0b }02:29
nosrednaekimturn off DMA maybe?02:30
nosrednaekimtry booting with "ide=nodma"02:30
_dennisteryes, will try thaat...02:30
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AirstrikeIvanovstdin: oss doesn work, i killed artsd and set it as OSS and all02:34
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Doctor_Nick:D02:34
Doctor_Nick>:(02:34
stdinmake sure nothing's using the device, if  "echo 1 > /dev/dsp" shows nothing then it should work (you may hear a 'blip')02:35
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AirstrikeIvanovstdin: it says device or resource busy02:35
stdinthen something is still using it, make sure artsd is killed. you may have to close firefox too02:36
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AirstrikeIvanovah02:36
AirstrikeIvanovartsd came back up02:36
AirstrikeIvanovnow it returns nothing02:37
AirstrikeIvanovgonna test my Wine game with it02:37
stdinit will if something in KDE want to make a noise...02:37
nzkArgh, why won't Liferea open!? I open it in KDE Ubuntu 7.04, and it shows the little loading thing next to the pointer, then vanishes, without a trace. Doesn't open.02:37
nzkAnyone know how to fix that?02:37
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_dennisterk; fully disabled dma...if i leave suddenly it hasn't been enuf and I'm frozen :)02:38
nosrednaekimheh02:38
nosrednaekimany errors in dmesg?02:38
_dennisteromg...it's working...lol,,,this *is* an ancient cdrom drive02:39
AirstrikeIvanovnope, still doesnt work >_<02:39
AirstrikeIvanovno sound in Wine02:39
AirstrikeIvanovid just use ALSA, but when i do the game loses input randomly02:39
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stdintry asking in #winehq  they know sooo much more about wine than me :p02:40
AirstrikeIvanovyeah02:40
_dennisterty nosrednaekim, stdin02:40
illriginalCan someone help me get my MP3 player recognized? I use Ubuntu Feisty Fawn but no one in the other channel can help me.02:41
_dennisterfunny tho, the dmesg errors r still there, but no crash, and i can read what's on the disk02:41
cloakableillriginal: perhaps if you used KDE :P02:41
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illriginalah man.. anyone here have knowledge of ubuntu?02:42
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danya hello can someone plz check my source list .. I think there's something wrong in it .. starting from line 40 and under ..http://pastebin.ca/70404802:42
danyaI'm on feisty 64-bit02:42
stdinyharrow_dishwash: what's with the nick spam?02:42
yharrow_dishwashstdin sorry about that02:43
AirstrikeIvanov#winehq is totally nonresponsive02:43
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yharrow_dishwashstdin a littel practical joke in our LoCo channel02:44
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stdindanya: looks ok, but delete the automatix lines all together, so you aren't tempted to KILL your system02:44
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danyastdin : line numbers plz just to make sure :) .. and I was concerned about line 40,41 and 42 .. since I'm on feisty .. why there's edgy things ?02:46
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estradagj02:47
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stdindanya: remove 43 and 44  and the reasons the others are still edgy is because they aren't official so you have to do that manually02:47
danyastdin : manually .. as in changing the name edgy into feisty ?02:48
stdinyep02:48
danyastdin : thank u :D02:48
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_dennisterk...gonna shutdown and see if I can't butcher the non-working xp box for hardware to add to this pentium 2...will probably be back soon02:49
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danyastdin : http://pastebin.ca/704064 .. I cant seem to know whats wrong02:54
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stdindanya: that says that you have more than one line for http://wine.budgetdedicated.com and you need to import gpg keys02:56
danyastdin : whats import gpg keys ? .. lol sorry I'm just new to this02:56
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stdindanya: you run this "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 387EE263" then "gpg --export -a 437D05B5 387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -"02:58
stdinthen "sudo apt-get update"02:58
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danyastdin : umm done :) .. do u mind explaining to me whatI just did ?03:02
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stdinthat downloads the "keys" used to sign the packages and then added them to apt's datebase of keys03:03
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bigleonQuestion any one using laptops have a problem with fans not running? or not a solution?03:03
aguitelbigleon ,same problem03:04
danyastdin thanks :)03:04
bigleonknow any solutions?03:04
bigleondamn thing is getting hot as hell03:04
aguitelnot for me03:04
bigleoni got burned last night cause i fell asleep with laptop on top of my chest. XD03:05
aguiteli have sonyvaio pcg-frv3503:05
aguitelturn off03:05
bigleonanyone got idea to getting fans working in laptops?03:09
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danyastdin .. I still get the same error concerning the GPG03:15
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stdindanya: same error?03:17
danyastdin : yea03:17
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stdinhmm, you shouldn't, at least not for the two you imported03:18
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danyastdin : so what should I do :S?03:21
stdinyou could just remove those sources from the sources.list I guess, or find out from their site where they keep their keys for importing (I know winehq has that info)03:23
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jcappelloque es lo que hacen aqui...?03:28
jcappelloyo soy nuevo en ubuntu..03:28
jcappellorealmente es un muy buen sistema operativo03:29
jcappelloAlgun latino?03:29
NickPresta!es | jcappello03:29
ubotujcappello: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:29
jcappellook. gracias ubotu03:30
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nzkHow do you reinstall a package with apt?03:36
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cloakableapt-get install --reinstall <package>03:38
nzkThanks.03:39
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cloakableno problem03:39
stdin"apt-get --reinstall install <package>" actually03:40
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stdinwell, I guess it doesn't actually matter03:40
beanswhen will we be able to apt-get firefox 2.0.0.7 ?03:41
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stdinwhen it's packaged maybe03:42
beansduh03:42
beans:)03:43
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stdin#ubuntu-mozillateam may be a place to ask03:43
bigleonanyone know how to get fans working on laptop?03:44
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lewixwhat's the name of that software for linux that use windows driver03:45
beansndiswrapper03:46
lewixthank you03:46
beansthat is almost all i know about it03:46
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jonnyroI have a 3G apple ipod, formatted for mac, is there any way i can get it to work with kubuntu?03:51
jonnyroto where i can use it to play stuff03:51
joao_boa noite03:52
joao_alguem q fale portugues03:52
stdin!pt | joao_03:53
ubotujoao_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:53
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stdin!ipod | jonnyro03:53
ubotujonnyro: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod03:53
joao_ok03:53
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Agent_bobi'm experancing process lockups  on one box.   anyone have insight on processes that freeze and can't be killed.   can't even reboot the process won't die.03:57
Agent_bob???03:57
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akrillok, im having a sound issue03:59
Agent_bobthere's an infonode on that...04:00
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Agent_bob!sound04:00
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:00
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Hydrarrghgenheh04:01
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Hydrarrghgen"If that fails disable arts and all your problems will be solved"04:01
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akrillok lol04:01
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Nextractcould anybody in here help me with twinview on a laptop04:01
Agent_bobof course i have walked all the way through that trubble shooting page without it ever even touching on the sound issue i had...  so.04:02
nosrednaekimNextract: read the tutorial?04:02
Nextractive tried04:02
Nextracti cant get 1080i from my DVI04:02
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killownkyuubi: what you do with my nick?04:10
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Agent_bobdid the internet die ?04:26
Agent_bobthe internet is dead!    long live the internet!04:27
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Jucatolol04:27
NickPrestalol04:27
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Jucatolong live intelikey!04:28
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_2would you stop that....04:29
Jucatolol :)04:29
_2:)04:29
Jucatonot until I've killed every incarnation of you :)04:29
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festerHow do I create a desktop icon for an app not native to Kubuntu?04:31
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Jucatoright-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application04:32
Jucatofill in the blanks04:32
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manji51Heya everyone04:33
manji51This is my first time on the Kubuntu IRC. How's everyone doing?04:33
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nosrednaekimgood04:34
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festerjucato> THANKS!!04:34
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nosrednaekimmanji51: welcome!04:36
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manji51nosrednaekim: Hey! Thanks for the welcome :)04:38
Jucato!hi | manji5104:38
ubotumanji51: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:38
Kr4t05Okay, someone want to help me get samba working?04:39
Kr4t05Kubuntu server, XP client.04:40
Kr4t05I have the dir set to share via samba, but it doesn't show up in Windows when I go to Map it.04:40
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killermachI have a linux centos box that I was using to as a file server with samba to windows, but now I have no windows what's the best way to make files on the centos server available to my kubuntu workstation?04:48
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cloakableNFS, if you can04:50
cloakablekernel based NFS = faster than samba, and msaller x.x04:51
sea_4_ever`excuse I04:52
sea_4_ever`I need to undo delete some files04:52
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killermachcloakable: ok.. that is using export right? I'll do the study time, but just want some opinions on where I should head04:52
sea_4_ever`How do I get them back? they got deleted less than 10 minutes ago, if that helps04:52
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cloakablekillermach: man exports04:53
killermachcool04:53
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Jucatosea_4_ever`: how did you delete them? they're not in the Trash?04:54
cloakablekillermach: before that, do 'apt-get install nfs-kernel-server' though :P04:55
killermachcloakable: kubuntu will be the workstation.. not the server.. do I still need that?04:55
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killermachoh.. to man exports I do right04:55
cloakablekillermach: Ahhh. Well, however you install nfs on centos boxes, do it :P04:56
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killermachcloakable: thanks04:56
sea_4_ever`rm04:56
sea_4_ever`rm something04:56
sea_4_ever`and my whole home directory went poof04:56
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marx2kok stupid question... but where in KDE do you set the resolution of your monitor??04:57
Jucatosea_4_ever`: ouch... you can't recover anything from "rm"04:57
Jucatomarx2k: System Settings -> Monitor & Display04:57
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Kr4t05I could use some help with Samba04:58
Kr4t05I have a Kubuntu server, and an XP client.04:58
marx2kI dont seem to have a "Systems Settings" menu04:58
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jhutchinssea_4_ever`: I presume you are using a standard ext3 filesystem04:58
Kr4t05I have the folder all set to be shared, but Windows doesn't see it when I try to mount/map it.04:58
jttsea_4_ever`, there is a e2undel routine  google it and see if it will help04:58
Jucatomarx2k: it's not a menu. it's a program04:58
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JucatoK Menu -> System Settings04:58
marx2kwtf I totally dont have a System Settings level in K-Menu04:59
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Jucatomarx2k: it's not a sub menu04:59
Jucatomarx2k: it should be under Help05:00
marx2kIts not on the top level05:00
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JucatoO.o05:00
marx2kok under help is Settings... but...05:00
marx2kno Monitor Display option05:00
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Jucatook.. Settings -> Peripherals -> Display05:00
marx2kno Display options under Peripherals05:01
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marx2khmmmm05:01
marx2knope, not default...05:01
Jucatoyou could have said so earlier :P05:01
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JucatoYou have Control Center in the K Menu?05:01
marx2kyup05:01
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sfearsafter i updated kubntu with automatic updates i lost my original boot mangaer and now i can't boot into windows05:02
Jucatomarx2k: KControl -> Peripherals -> DIsplay05:02
sfearsany idea how to easily get my boot manager back05:02
marx2kjucato: no dice... its not in there05:03
sfearsboot manager is mabey the wrong way to say it05:03
sfearsboot menu05:03
marx2kjucato: any idea what the actual command is that it calls?05:03
Jucatomarx2k: install "kde-guidance"05:03
jhutchinssfears: the way this works is you tell us what _is_ happening, and perhaps what you would like to happen instead.05:03
jhutchins"isn't working", "doesn't happen", "does nothing" - these are useless phrases.05:04
marx2kinstalling kde-guidance05:04
Jucato!doesntwork05:04
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:04
Jucatojhutchins: funnier way to say it ^^^05:04
Jucato:)05:04
jhutchinsJucato: What can I say, it's late, hot, and sticky.05:05
klobsterok, I can ping google.com and www.google.com and i get a response, but if I try to load google.com in firefox or konqueror, it says "connection reset while page was loading" (firefox), and "Connection to host www.google.com is broken." (konqueror).  any ideas?05:05
klobsterwget fails too (connection reset by peer).05:06
marx2kahh there it goes... thanks jucato05:06
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jhutchinsklobster: 1) something is blocking port 80, 2) you have accidentally set a proxy when you shouldn't have, 3) you have not set a proxy, and you should have.05:07
jhutchins2 is actually the most common.05:07
lewixyo05:08
lewixwhere can I get unzipp/cabextract/shield tools05:08
klobsterit's only google.com (so far, anyway). all other sites load, no prblem including blackle.com and gmail.com05:08
lewixor what does it mean05:09
lewixunzip/cabextract/shield05:09
sfearswell.. i used to have a choice between xp or kubuntu when grub loaded05:09
sfearsafter adapt auto update.. now i only have kubuntu options.. no xp option05:09
sfearsi'd like to be able to choose which os i boot into05:09
jhutchinssfears: Generally that's configured in /boot/grub/menu.list05:10
sfearsahhh yeah05:10
jhutchinssfears: display menu/delay time.05:10
klobsterjhutchins: any idea how I set a system level proxy that bans google?  where would I even check for it?05:10
sfearswhat's that about delay time?05:10
jhutchinsklobster: Google specific.05:10
jhutchinsklobster: That's a new one.05:10
jhutchinsklobster: what about google.co.uk?05:11
klobsternogo.  also, only the front page of blackle and gmail seem to work05:11
klobsterthey must reroute to google.com05:12
jhutchinsvery strange.  No unusual security settings...05:12
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klobsterjhutchins: not that I know of; I haven't changed anything recently05:13
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jhutchinsklobster: oh, so to top it off, "it used to work fine"?05:14
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klobsterjhutchins: as in last night, when I last used the system...05:15
klobsterjhutchins: I just ran adept update, but it only updated 4 qt3 packages05:16
jhutchinsklobster: I'm thinking temporary networking problem with your ISP.05:16
klobsterjhutchins: me too.  I have narrowed it down to this ip: 72.14.253.10405:17
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klobster64.233.187.99 works fine for me05:18
jhutchinsI get google (english)05:18
jhutchinsComcast.  'nuff said.05:18
manji51I am beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how to share a directory over NFS to an Ubuntu laptop...05:18
klobsterjhutchins: yeah it looks like it.  thanks for the hand holding though.  sorry i didn't follow the steps by myself05:19
manji51Ran through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo05:20
manji51Have it shared all RW and such.... made an NFS group on both machines just for this... installed packages... spun deosile three times... still nothing05:20
ynotis there any way to create a bootdisk to start my cdrom? i have the live cd of xubuntu, have set the bois to boot cdrom but it doesn work. I have kubuntu installed on an HP Pavilion, 600 processor, 360 mb ram. help please???05:21
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jhutchinsmanji51, ynot:  You need to tell us what does happen, not just that soemthing doesn't work.05:23
manji51All's I get is this server is down msg when I do mount 10.0.0.101:/media/VIDEO ~/video05:24
manji51jhutchins: sorry--I'm new at this :)05:24
jhutchinsmanji51: then you're not sharing.  Can you mount it on localhost?05:24
manji51Ummmm05:24
jhutchinsynot: Yes, you can do that, but I'd check the md5sum of the disk first, if it won't boot it's probably a bad copy.05:24
manji51jhutchins: Yes, I can mount locally05:25
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jhutchinsynot: Check the md5sum of the iso file, then check the disk itself.  there may be a utility in your burning software to check it.05:25
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ynotthe cdrom seems to be reading the disk, the lights are showing that and the eyetem pauses then it goes to a normal boot to Kubuntu05:25
manji51jhutchins: Maybe I need to ::thinks:: open a port 'r sommat?05:26
jhutchinsmanji51: When you specify a share, part of the definition is who it's shared to.  This is usually "*", which is insecure.  Try setting it up as loose, open and insecure as you can figure then work down to what runs for you.05:26
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manji51jhutchins: That's how I set it up, specifically for that reason05:26
jhutchinsmanji51: shouldn't need to, running the nfsd should open it.05:26
jhutchinsmanji51: http://tldp.org should have a good nfs reference.05:26
manji51It says /media/VIDEO/ *(rw,async,all_squash)05:27
dwidmannHmm, I've got a question, are there any major security concerns to be had with running X over SSH?05:27
manji51I dunno what all_squash means but that's what this line in /etc/exports says05:27
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jhutchinsmanji51: Sorry, I'm trying to wrap this up and get outa here.05:27
manji51no prob :)05:27
jhutchinsdwidmann: No more than the usual stuff.05:27
jhutchinsI may be back, probably ~16:00GMT if nothing else.05:27
dwidmannusual stuff being? I haven't really looked into it much05:27
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=== manji51 is going to bang his head on this tomorrow. Goodnight all!
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kirk!katapult05:41
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:41
Doctor_Nick!katapart05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about katapart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:41
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marretaboa noite a todos.05:44
stdin!br05:45
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.05:45
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megatog615hello05:52
megatog615Is anyone else using Gutsy?05:52
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Dr_Willisnot yet.05:53
megatog615Does Kicker work for you?05:53
Jucatoyep05:53
megatog615I am aware that things break05:53
Dr_Williswaiting for the beta release. :) heh.. wondering if the 8800 nvida driver works in it also. Im in no hury05:53
megatog615But it's been broken for almost a week05:53
Jucatoyou could also try the guys over at #ubuntu+1 but it's working for me05:53
stdinkicker works fine here too05:54
megatog615er05:54
megatog615Maybe I've got the name wrong05:54
megatog615The taskbar05:54
stdinunless you're on about KDE405:54
megatog615Is that Kicker?05:54
Dr_Williskicker is the whole panel I thought05:54
megatog615No, 3.505:54
megatog615Well I have no taskbar05:54
Dr_Willisthe taskbar thing is one panel applet.05:54
stdinthen, yeah, kicker has never broke for em05:54
megatog615I mean the whole bar at the bottom05:54
stdins/em/me05:54
stdintry making a new user and see if kicker works for it, if so then you know it's some personal setting and not kicker itself05:55
megatog615good idea05:56
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Dr_Willisyep. thats a good test. :)05:57
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Black5unass hat06:00
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megatog615seems to be working06:00
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Biovore(_^_)  <-- ass hat :-P06:01
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samuelalguien habla espaol06:02
Biovore!es06:02
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:02
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megatog615Can someone tell me how I might fix this then?06:02
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samuelgracias ubotu06:03
stdinmegatog615: move/backup ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker/ then restart kicker?06:04
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enjoi1216hey can someone in this room show my how to hands on clear my history out of my Konquerer and Firefox browswers06:05
enjoi1216hey kirk have you been beamed upon the enterprise yet06:05
enjoi1216?06:05
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enjoi1216hey stdin do you know how to clean the Konquerer and Firefox browsers06:06
stdindelete ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konq_history and ~/.mozilla/firefox/dmq347qr.default/history.dat should do it06:07
enjoi1216well i know that but i need to know how to do it hands on because i'm still kinda new to Kubuntu Linux06:08
stdinexcept replace "dmq347qr.default" with what's really there06:08
enjoi1216like how do i do it through the K Menu06:08
kirkTools>Clear Private Data  for Firefox06:08
enjoi1216like where to go and06:08
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enjoi1216sorry Kirk thats not helping me06:09
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kirki'm not understanding what you're trying to do06:09
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Dr_Willisi never have understood firefox's naming of that dmq3.. whatever stuff.. i know its random.. (i think) but whats the point. :)06:10
enjoi1216like if right klik on my Firefox and Konquerer browsers and then try to go to the properties to clear the history out on the browsers i can't do that06:10
enjoi1216what i'm saying is Kirk is that you have to go to the KDE start menu and go into the system and find the browsers and in order to clear the browsing history and delete the cookies06:12
kirkno, actually from the browser if you go to Tools > Clear Private Data, it will also06:13
megatog615hey! that fixed it06:13
megatog615Thanks guys06:13
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enjoi1216ok but how exactly do i do that because i need help because i'm not very Kubuntu Linux literate06:14
enjoi1216like where to go and what to klik06:14
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enjoi1216like i need hands on training06:14
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kirkopen the browser, click Tools, then Clear Private Data06:14
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enjoi1216i don't have clear private data when i klik tools06:16
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enjoi1216ok Kirk that cleared my private data through Firefox06:17
enjoi1216but hwo do i clear it through Konquerer06:17
enjoi1216?06:17
enjoi1216can someone help me06:18
enjoi1216please06:18
enjoi1216i'm having issues06:18
osirisi hate the fact i never remember this, but what is the begining line for a bash script ?06:19
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enjoi1216Kirk are you there06:19
enjoi1216hey osiris do you know how to clean your browser history through Konquerer06:24
enjoi1216?06:24
osirisnot specificly06:24
osirisfind the konq dir in ~/.kde06:25
osiris ?06:25
enjoi1216hey kkathman are you there06:26
kkathmanyep06:26
enjoi1216i hope i'm not bugging you at this time of the night06:26
osirisim off to work on trixbox.  sorry i couldnt help06:26
enjoi1216but could you help me solve my problem06:26
kkathmannah Im just chattin06:27
enjoi1216ok well how to i clear my browser history out through Konquerer06:27
enjoi1216and i would like to set up my sound and try to make my Linux machine to where i can burn cds and listen to music06:27
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enjoi1216<kkathman> could you please help me with this06:28
kkathmanwassup you?06:29
kkathmansound probs?06:29
kkathmanclearing the browser in Konq and firefox is pretty easy06:29
kkathmanfirefox its under the preferences I beliece06:29
enjoi1216ok i'm needing help with problem#1 clearing out my browser history06:29
kkathmanbelieve06:30
kkathmanok in Konq?06:30
enjoi1216prob # 2 setting up my sound card06:30
enjoi1216problem #3 getting my comp to burn cds06:30
hydrogensettings->configure konqueror06:30
hydrogenthen history sidebar06:30
hydrogenthen clear history06:31
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enjoi1216sorry hydrogen that didn't work06:32
hydrogenwhat part didn't work?06:32
kkathmanright06:32
enjoi1216i went in the KDE menu and then kliked system and then i looked for Konquerer and it wasn't there06:32
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hydrogenno06:33
hydrogenfrom in konqueror06:33
hydrogengo to settings06:33
hydrogenthen configure konqueror06:33
enjoi1216ok now how do i set my sound up06:34
enjoi1216?06:34
lewixwhere's the trash if i delete something by mistake06:34
lewixhow do i get it back06:34
enjoi1216lewix06:35
hydrogenbottom right corner06:35
lewixenjoi1216,06:35
hydrogenor go to trash:/ in konqueror06:35
enjoi1216it's on the bottom right hand corner on your taskbar06:35
rrbiznow there's ubuntu23 version of rep upgrades today06:35
rrbizgutsy's team been working hard lately having upgrades everyday06:36
enjoi1216ok kkathman can you help me with the rest of my issues06:36
kkathmanI'll try06:36
kkathmanwhats the next issue?06:36
enjoi1216i i need help with my soundcard setting it up06:36
enjoi1216to where i can hear sound06:36
kkathmanwhat kind of sound card?06:37
enjoi1216i mean i could go to gigabyte and download the drivers06:37
kkathmanis it your mobo on board?06:37
enjoi1216it's integrated on the motherboard06:37
kkathmanahh ok06:37
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kkathmantypically you just need to double click on the volume control (or kmix) and set the sound card properly06:38
kkathmanbe sure that PCM is up06:38
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enjoi1216ok hang on let me download the driver06:39
terrestre_theres a command to know what pc are connect to me in a LAN? or to know the ip of my router thats give me internet?06:39
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Dr_willisnormally your router docs, or setup page tell you its ip. that would be your gateway ip.06:41
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Dr_willisif your router has a dhcp server. the linux box should get all that info automaticially if set to use dhcp06:41
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ninjagtwow06:42
ninjagtiim using kubuntu in a pc widout hard disc06:42
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naknomikWhat packages do I need to pull to be able to play MP3s in Amarok?06:44
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kkathman!codecs | naknomik06:45
ubotunaknomik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:45
Dr_willisi belive the Kubuntu FAQ give exact package names also.06:46
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naknomikI can't use free formats until iPod doesn't support them. I have a few iPods at home.06:46
Daisuke_Laptopyou can't use free formats until...  ipod DOESN'T support them?06:47
Dr_willisI wont use ipods untill they sypport freeformats.. :)06:47
Daisuke_Laptopthat kinda makes no sense.06:47
Dr_williseven then.. i doubt if id use one06:47
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naknomikDaisuke-Ido: I mean, until iPod supports them... oops two negations06:48
Daisuke_Laptopah ha06:48
Daisuke_LaptopDr_willis: enemies make each other rich06:48
Daisuke_Laptop:)06:48
Dr_willisapple manages to do a sumersault and still shoot itself in the foot while (!@**@&* the consumers.. and they beg for more.06:49
Dr_willisProving its all about Marketing.06:49
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naknomikAre KDE 4 packages available in feisty backports now?06:50
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Dr_willisnever noticed. :) given how much kde4 is a work in progress.. id say stay away from them for a few more months06:53
Dr_willisBut wheres the fun in that eh?06:54
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naknomikI have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed now, but Amarok keeps showing this dialog 'No MP3 support'. What is wrong?06:55
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Dr_willisyou did close out amarok and restart it? it tends to iconfy to the systemtray thing.06:56
naknomikIs it not possible to have amarok build a collection from a samba network folder?06:57
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3      *06:57
Dr_willis      To play mp3's with Amarok, install the package libxine1-ffmpeg (which will install libmad0 as well).06:57
naknomikYes I have closed/killed amarok several times and restrted.06:57
Dr_willisnaknomik,  'a samba folder' ya mean a smb://whatever type path?06:58
Jucatonaknomik: perhaps because you used ubuntu-restricted-extras06:58
Dr_willisI dont think thats doable. However ya could use the smbfuse tool to have the samba share show up as a normal directory06:58
Dr_willisof course if the share is on another linux box. the sshfs stuff might be better.06:58
Jucatonaknomik: all that amarok needs to play mp3's is in one package. libxine-extracodecs06:58
hangthedjJucato, word.06:59
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naknomikWhy is that not doable? From the Files tab I can browse to those files and play them, but can't have them as part of collection?07:00
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Dr_willisnaknomik,  and whats the 'path' of them? if its like smb:// its being 'browsed' in much the say one would browse a web site. if ya play them. do they download? Give it the path and try it.07:00
JucatoAmarok can only scan locally mounted directories for its Collection07:01
Dr_willisthere are 'special' paths (kioslaves i think is the better term) that let konqueror see remote placves. they dont always work as you expect.07:01
Dr_willisHence the use of sshfs, or other fusesamba tools.07:01
Dr_willisor mount the samba share somewhere manually'07:01
naknomikhummm07:01
Jucatoimportant point: they have to be mounted07:02
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Dr_willisright 'mounted' is the operative word hhere. vs. the term 'browsed'07:02
Dr_willis(i think i got that right)07:02
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Dr_willisHmm.. Hot Spicy Coffee...07:03
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omanyone know what would be the publisher for linux?07:03
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Dr_willis'the publisher' ?07:04
Jucatosomething like MS Publisher?07:04
JucatoScribus (even KWord)07:04
Dr_willisI like scribus. :)07:04
naknomikis it sambafuse?07:04
Dr_willisIm tryign to rember the name of this outlibner program i saw once. ya could sort/catagorize things by  draging them to one side or another of a line. generate a relational tree...07:04
Dr_willis!fuse07:05
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems07:05
Dr_willisaot-cache search smbfuse07:05
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Dr_willisoops07:05
Dr_willis!smbfuse07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smbfuse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:05
KDEfanboyanyone know how to tell udev that a device interface was manually changed so update, without rebooting?07:05
Dr_willis!find smbfuse07:05
KDEfanboynetwork device07:05
Dr_willisor is it fusesmb07:05
ubotuPackage/file smbfuse does not exist in feisty07:05
Dr_willis!find fusesmb07:05
ubotuFound: fusesmb07:05
hangthedj!smbfs07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:05
Dr_willisits sshfs  and fusesmb :)07:05
Dr_williswish the fuse guys would organize their names better07:05
hangthedjin gutsy it changed.07:06
Dr_willis!find fuse gutsy07:06
ubotuFound: fuse-utils, libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.22-11-386, linux-image-2.6.22-11-generic (and 22 others)07:06
hangthedj-t smbfs doesn't work, that was fun figuring out.07:06
hangthedj!cifs07:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:06
Dr_willishangthedj,  heh - i never have figured out the proper samba/fstab syntax :)07:06
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naknomikaaarrgh... too much trouble. I'll mount the volumes from /etc/fstab07:07
Dr_willisi find fusesmb rather easy.. :) now that i read its docs one..07:09
kkathmanbrb07:09
Dr_willisIt can show the whole shares 'network' in one directory07:09
naknomikDr_willis: don't you have to install extra kernel modules etc.07:10
naknomikWhy does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?07:10
naknomikI'm using IMAP07:10
naknomikIs skype available for Ubuntu?07:11
Jucato!skype07:12
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto07:12
hangthedjdoesn't skype read your /etc dir?07:12
Dr_willisnaknomik,  for fuse? ya just load the fuse module. add yoru user to a group. and you are all set.07:13
Dr_willisi wonder if gutsy auto loads the fuse module.07:13
naknomikNow to my KMail question, why does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?07:13
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Jucatoit always does. I think. whether pop or imap07:14
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naknomikWhat is the application in Kubuntu to record sound from microphone?07:17
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Jucato!info krec07:18
ubotukrec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB07:18
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flakemy screensaver kicks in which is fine, but how do i control when my monitor goes into sleep mode07:25
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sven_oostenbrinkHi all, I have my kubuntu installed on a Dell latitude D620 laptop (intel 945 chipset) with all graphic drivers (compiz is working fine) and video codecs, yet when I try to play a video or DVD, I have sound but I see a black image in the player,, How do I fix this??07:26
crazy6is there a system settings panel for the grub boot menu? or should I edit the file manually?07:26
sven_oostenbrinkcrazy6, AFAIK, you have to edit it manually, but its not difficult07:26
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crazy6sven_oostenbrink: yeah, I've done it for gentoo before, I was just curious, now that I'm using this nice polished interface07:27
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sven_oostenbrinkI imagine :) But do try apt-get (search for grub) or google.. who knows?07:27
naknomik why does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?07:27
crazy6ok, let's give it a try07:28
hangthedjcrazy6, there is QGrubEditor, but you have to compile it and download it yourself, plus if you or a program does update-grub, now your kernels are mimiced07:29
hangthedj*mimicked07:31
sven_oostenbrinkflake, IIRC, thats some hardware settinng.. try kcontrol..07:31
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sven_oostenbrinkAnybody on why I cant see video's or DVD?/07:31
flakeok07:35
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flakethanks, it was under Monitor & Display07:36
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Daisuke_Laptopwell, turns out vga-out works on this laptop, now it's a matter of getting the tv recognized as the same resolution as the monitor07:49
Daisuke_Laptopbecause 640x480 is NOT a solution i like.07:50
Daisuke_Laptop(the tv's capable of 1366x768), so i thought maybe just doing 1280x768 on both, using a cloned desktop, and watching stuff that way :)07:50
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JakoavainHi07:56
JakoavainWhat could be the problem, during night the sounds are gone? The amarok wont play mp3/wma .. it opens the file and then just jumps to the end.07:56
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caeli got a prob i need help with07:59
caeli got kubuntu and yaboot installed07:59
caelso os is running \07:59
caeli updated everything07:59
caeli cant play MP3s  in Amarok08:00
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caelit prompted me to install support for mp3's08:00
hangthedjwow tonight is the night for amarok mp3 questions.08:00
caeli did and restarted it08:00
caelbut08:00
caelstill says no support for MP3s08:00
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caelstill promts to install support08:01
caeland... it just closes if i click install mp3 support08:01
Daisuke_Laptopcael: pop open synaptic (or adept) and install libxine-extracodecs08:01
Daisuke_Laptopthey're hopefully still working on getting the codec autoinstallation working properly every time08:02
Dr_willisthat 'auto isntall support' has a bug in it. :()08:02
Daisuke_Laptopsee?  ^08:02
Dr_willisbut the gnome program that asks.. did work for me last i tried it heh.08:02
JakoavainOh this sucks, the sounds are gone08:03
Daisuke_Laptopknowing kde's default sounds, that isn't a bad thing08:03
JakoavainIt wasn't only mp3players.. I tried everything. Fuck.08:03
Daisuke_Laptop!ohmy08:03
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:03
cael(i'm on kubuntu PPC)08:03
Daisuke_Laptopo_O08:03
Daisuke_Laptopthere's still a ppc release?08:03
cael(iMac G3)08:03
caelyes08:03
caelFiest Fawn 7.0408:04
cael*fiesty08:04
Daisuke_Laptopwow...08:04
caeli'm on it as we speak08:04
caelruns better than OS X08:04
Daisuke_Laptopis that one of the brightly coloured imacs? that look like a portable tv with a dvd player?08:04
caelthough the installer kept crashing at partitiong08:05
caelyes08:05
Daisuke_Laptopneat :)08:05
Daisuke_Laptopi always wanted one, never got one08:05
caeli sent a bug report08:05
caelanytime on Manual mode for partitiong to edit and make a Partion on free space while it still had my OSX Partition Table08:06
Daisuke_Laptopthat was really when apple started getting style-conscious.  i find that line of imacs and ibooks represented the pivotal point between the ugly mac of yesteryear and the smooth streamlined mac of today...  anyway, i'm off to bed :D08:06
cael(hit up the craigs list for one btw, got mine here in michigan for 50$)08:06
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cael400MHZ dvd rom drive, 512MB sd ram08:07
caelupgraded w/; 120gb hdd08:07
Daisuke_Laptopoooh08:07
Daisuke_Laptopi never even thought to check craigslist08:07
caelnot bad for 50$08:07
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Dr_willisI  need to upgrade my imac also.. but its sitting in the closet.. where it will stay..08:09
Dr_willissince its montior is going out.08:09
caeli've seen people mod these into custom pc monitor cases08:09
Dr_willisYea. i looked into that.. and decided it wasnt worth the effort. :)08:10
Dr_willisI use it as a backup SSh/terminal machine.08:10
caeli'm making a pc setup for OS X8608:11
caelonly thing i need now is more memory08:11
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Dr_willisdosent have gigabit networking.. the thing heats up like crazy, usb 1.0 i belive... so..  its just a spare. :)08:11
caeland compatable sound and eithernet card08:11
caeldr best thing w/ these08:11
caelsince they have NO fans08:11
caelset it on a metal or wood table08:12
Dr_williscael,  yea - nice of apple to 'quiet pc!' - it just over HEATS08:12
caelbut remove the door covering thte memory08:12
Dr_williswhen the dvd disks eject are so hot ya dont want to touch them.. apple needed to get slapped.08:12
caelDO NOT BLOCK its bottom or the table around it08:12
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caelthese imacs use positional vent  cooling08:13
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ubuntuhey guys, I'm in the kubuntu live cd at the moment, choosing my partition - problem is that I don't know which drive is empty (I have 2 400gb drives, and one is full)08:13
Dr_willisRight now its sitting on the bottom shelf in the basement. :)08:13
ubuntuis there any way to tell what is on the partition before I use it?08:14
caellook at what one it says w/ used space in the actual partioner08:14
caelif you mount the drive yes08:14
Dr_willismount them both look at them.08:14
ubuntuok08:15
Dr_willisi always repartition and deleta all partitions on the disks i plan on using so they show up 'unallocated'08:15
Dr_willisLike the one i just got done cleaning out. :)08:16
omdoes anyone know what is the parallel init thing?08:16
omis true the linux will boot faster?08:16
caeland dr willis i keep a small cheapo deskfan pointed at where the vents for the monitor parts are and the mac stays at about 53 degrees08:16
Dr_willisom,  boot faster then what? :)08:16
caeli pefeer fast overall performance over fast boot08:16
Dr_willislinux boots decently fast now for most people. and of course when you are talking about MONTHS+ uptimes.. a 2 min boot dosent matter much.08:16
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caelhell u can make any os boot fast (fresh install)08:17
Dr_williscael,  id like to be able to put the thing in a normal pc case and use a normal monitor.. but its not worth the investment of time/money at this time. :)08:17
caelbut updates+ prgorams u add= start up time  delay08:17
Dr_willisHeh - i could track down an BEOS PPC disk and put on it.08:17
Dr_willis:)08:18
Dr_willisbah. not worth the time.08:18
Dr_williswell its 2 am here.. night all.08:18
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caelisnt the beos ppc vers incompatable w/ "NewWorld" macs?08:18
omDSL boots in 20 seconds lol08:19
ombut hardly do anything08:19
omlol08:19
caeldaisuke, u still up?08:23
caellibxine-extracodecs isnt showing up in available packages08:23
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caelactually comes up as "Xine extra plugins"08:25
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gustavoH\$@B^D^K\IIL;L$8s        HD$@F,^HIH|$(^OHT$0B<2^@^OH$HD$@B^D^H\IQ^AH9T$8v^QDH\$@^F0^D^SIQ^BH9T$8v^TDH\$@^C^G0^$HT$@B^D08:36
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_2can anyone identify this error message ?     X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting.08:39
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_2i'm in the process of doing what i advise other to "NOT" do.  installing ".*buntu-desktop"08:40
gustavorm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix08:41
_2-f ???  doesn't need force.08:42
_2rm /tmp/* -r08:42
ardchoille_2: I wouldn't advise that while running kde08:42
_2if kde was running i wouldn't do that.08:43
_2well    i might.   but i wouldn't advise it to others... :)08:43
_2in fact if X was running ^08:43
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ardchoillelog out, go to tty1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix, log out, tty7, log in ?08:45
_2but startx yelds "X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting."08:45
_2ardchoille you talking to me ???08:45
ardchoilles|sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix|sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix08:45
caelgrrr >_< trying to access my whole shared drives on my windows pc in the network, that pc has no login password but its asking me for one on this machine(kubuntu ppc mac)08:46
ardchoille_2: Just thinking out loud08:46
_2yeilds ^08:47
caeli have NO prob accessing actual folders but when i try to view the root ofthe drive i'm askedfor authentication08:47
_2ie   what ever.08:47
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_2Cael_PPCkubuntu sounds like a windows issue to me...08:49
Cael_PPCkubuntunot a prob w/ OSX or another winblows pc08:49
_2hmmm i think i'm lagging....   -:- CTCP PING reply from _2: 46.154 seconds08:50
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Cael_PPCkubuntuok there we go odd at first kept showing " smb://cael@firewing-8781a3/D$"  now it just shows for drive root,  "smb://cael@firewing-8781a3/D"08:53
Cael_PPCkubuntu(firewing-8781a3 being the winblow pc network name)08:53
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_2!wine08:56
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:56
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_2reminds me,   i have a program writen for windows 3.x  i bet wine will run it...08:59
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lewixhow do I connect/disconnet manually of the LAN09:02
_2lewix ifconfig    or  ifup/ifdown09:02
_2lewix    ifconfig eth0 down        ifdown eth009:03
_2prolly need sudo09:03
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_2connecting might want a static ip also...   sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.47 up09:04
lewixif I  dont have the static ip in mind?09:05
lewixcan it find it automatically?09:05
_2then don't specify an ip09:05
lewixok09:05
lewixdo I need dhcclient09:06
_2lewix normally if you use dhcp  you'll want to use   ifup    and   ifdown09:06
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_2and that's just about the extent of my networking skills.09:07
lewixi mean should i use it right after using ifconfig eth0 up09:08
_2i really don't kown.   i use all static ip's .     most use "knetworkmanager"09:09
_2errr most in here do.09:09
gustavodhclient09:09
lewixwhat's the differene btw dhclient, ifconfig up, dhcpcd09:10
gustavou can use just "sudo idown -a" and "sudo ifup -a"09:10
_2i'm thinking ifup will call dhclient for you.     also talking through my hat.   so i'll hush.09:11
gustavo_2: yes... it does09:11
_2gustavo ifdown   yeah.  that.09:11
lewixwhat's the differene btw dhclient, ifconfig up, dhcpcd, ifup -a09:11
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gustavodhclient, calls dhcp and updates ur interface ip address09:12
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gustavoifconfig up turns ur interface active09:12
gustavoifup -a turns all interfaces active (like ifconfig up)09:12
Cael_PPCkubuntu_2 anyway to access a shared folder on the networrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk outside the current connections subnet( Network's setup Basement: cablemodem -----> upstairs Router----> bedroom Router09:13
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Cael_PPCkubuntu*the network09:13
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_2ifup/down calls both ifconfig and dhclient     methinks09:13
_2i'll have to look into that.09:13
Cael_PPCkubuntuthis mavc is on bedroom's router, but one one pc w/ my game/anime music i wanna access is on the "upstair's router"09:13
Cael_PPCkubuntu*mac09:14
_2ah merging two networks...   that's fun.09:15
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Cael_PPCkubuntu7pcs in house each router only 4 ports >_<09:15
_2yes there is. and it's not hard to do.  but i'm not the guy to ask.09:15
Cael_PPCkubuntuand no USB network adapter on the mac09:15
Cael_PPCkubuntuerr wifi network09:16
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Cael_PPCkubuntui've tried to give the pcs on the "upstair's router" static ips in it but09:17
Cael_PPCkubuntu1: its a D-Link router09:17
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Cael_PPCkubuntu2: each time they are setup w/ one they can communicate w/ other pcs but no internet09:17
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Cael_PPCkubuntuand what i dont get any pc connected to teh dlink router can view the setup page for the 2nd router (Linksys) but any pc on the linksys router cant view setup page for the D-Link09:19
lewixok I just learnt it. _2 dhclient is the script and ifconfigup is the script that just run it. dhcpcd maintain your ip09:19
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_2you need a "default gateway" added to the routing table   then both networks can find the inet09:19
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_2Cael_PPCkubuntu something like "sudo route add default gw <gw-addr> "   interpreting the <gw-addr>09:20
Cael_PPCkubuntu(to be exact  the systems on the entire network "D-Link": Winblows PC "Movies PC", Winblows "Pictures" 3rd is a Playstation 2, 4th line runs to the Linksys and on teh linksys is this imca, brother's PC , mother sPC and 2 more pcs acting as File servers09:21
_2you can set that up in /etc/network/interfaces   and you wont have to add it.09:21
Cael_PPCkubuntuok (i'm still verry noobish to Linux OS's09:22
Cael_PPCkubuntuhell took me awhile to get used to teh mac's OS X09:22
_2i'm still network illiterate too.   so i'll defer to anyone that has dias09:23
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niels_ubotu: !adept09:27
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:27
niels_ubotu: !adeptfix09:27
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:27
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sander_I'm looking for a tool to record videos from my desktop (3d apps running).. any suggestions?09:56
ardchoillesander_: istanbul  ?09:58
sander_yeah I saw that one.. but that requires almost all of the whole gnome libs09:59
ardchoillesander_: Oh, really? I didn't know that.. I'll have to stop recommending it09:59
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masterylabhi10:00
sander_quite a list :)10:00
sahin_hsander_: reKordmydesktop?10:01
sander_didn't found that one yet...10:01
sander_lemme check10:01
sahin_hsander_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=5576010:01
ardchoillesahin_h: I think that's a gtk app10:01
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ardchoillesander_:  apt-cache search mydesktop10:02
Jucato!info screenkast10:02
lewixhow can I make my screensaver change automatically10:02
ubotuPackage screenkast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:02
Jucatohm..10:02
sahin_hReKordmydesktop is a frontend to recordmydesktop aiming at the ease of use.10:02
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ardchoille!info byzanz10:03
ubotubyzanz: Small screencast creator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3 (feisty), package size 78 kB, installed size 408 kB10:03
Jucatounfortunately, screenkast and krecordmydesktop are only in Gutsy...  you'll have to get it from kde-apps for now10:03
sander_I have gutsy installed :)10:03
ardchoilleJucato: Yeah, but Gutsy is just around the corner :)10:04
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Jucato:)10:04
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Jucatosander_: then you're in luck10:04
sander_Jucato: I prefer to call it skill ;)10:05
ardchoilleMan, Baghira rocks!10:05
Jucatoheh10:05
Jucato(ew?)10:05
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Jucatooh well... since there are no other better alternatives :)10:06
sander_that skin / theme?10:06
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sahin_hardchoille: Yes baghira is so cool, however play badly with firefox for me.10:07
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UselessIDdoes someone wants to play nexuiz?10:07
sahin_hfirefox the only non qt apps what I use...10:07
runleveltenI'd love to but I think colleagues might notice, heh.10:07
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flaccidUselessID: this is kubuntu support channel10:08
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ardchoillesander_: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8461/osxkdegp9.jpg10:10
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UselessIDflaccid: dont be an ass10:11
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sander_ardchoille: looks nice.. but is this theme easy to install?10:11
sander_and what about the dock?10:11
ardchoillesander_: You can instal Baghira with "sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira"  and the dock is just kicker with the options tweaked a bit10:11
ardchoille!info baghira10:12
ubotuPackage baghira does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:12
sander_:)10:12
ardchoille!info kwin-baghira10:12
ubotukwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB10:12
sander_k.. this is a window manager replacement ?10:12
sander_like compiz?10:12
emilsedgh!info kxdocker | sander_10:13
ubotusander_: kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB10:13
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ardchoilleNo, it is a style and theme for kde, it doesn't replace anything10:13
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wersis it possible for the kicker to be transparent whenever the mouse isn't over it and have a background image only when the mouse hovers on it? I think it would be really great but I am not sure if it is feasible10:14
ardchoillewers: I've never seen a feature like that for kicker10:15
Jucatonope10:15
wersyeah.. i just think that it would be very good for usability10:16
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niels_ubotu: !adeptfix10:16
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:16
Jucatousability speaking, that would be terrible imho... :P10:16
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ardchoilleYeah, I don't see how that would enhance usability10:17
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sander_kxdocker isn't in gutsy yet?10:17
NiceGuyUKanyone know how I can get mailto: links in firefox to work with kontact?10:17
wersI'm thinking of something like mac's dock..it gets larger whenever the mouse is on it. that way, you will tend to give more attention to the dock. I am thinking of what I can do for the kicker10:18
Jucato!info kxdocker gutsy10:18
ubotuPackage kxdocker does not exist in gutsy10:18
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Jucatooh yeah, it's unmaintained I think10:19
Jucatowers: there are mac dock clones...10:19
Jucatokiba-dock (non-KDE), ksmoothdock, kooldock, kxdocker10:19
wersyeah.. but I still prefer kicker because of integration issues10:19
Jucatocan't catch'em all10:20
Jucatower.. win 'em all10:20
flaccidwe need min 128px icons10:20
wersyeah...10:20
wersi guess10:20
Jucatowers: you could also make one if you really want to :)10:20
Jucatoalthough I don't think the transparent -> opaque is good for usability. the parabolic zooming might be10:20
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wersuhmmm.. I'm not leet enough Jucato10:21
wersmaybe, after 5 years?10:21
Jucatotoo modest hahah10:21
wershaaha10:21
wersI'm a newb10:21
emilsedghkooldock is a fork of ksmoothdock, AFAIK, they should be simmiliar10:21
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werswhen it comes to docks, I think, awn is the best10:22
flaccid!info awn10:22
ubotuPackage awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:22
waylandbillwers: gotta start somewhere. grab a book on C and get off and running. :)10:23
Jucato(or C++ if you're more into KDE :P)10:23
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wershahaha.. waylandbill, maybe, I'll try that after I finish my two courses. aint got enough time10:23
flaccidJucato i start my windows based job tomorrow haha10:23
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Jucatoflaccid: Avant Window Navigator, I think. hosted in Launchpad10:24
waylandbillJucato: or c++ after c.10:24
Jucatowhy not C++ straight?10:24
Jucatobah offtopic!!10:24
JucatoNiceGuyUK: I think there are. try asking in #qt10:24
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NiceGuyUKkthx10:24
JucatoQyoto I think.. not sure...10:24
flaccidyeah i don't go in that chan10:24
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flaccidc++ is also off topic10:25
=== Jucato doesn't hate docks. but last time he tried to use one, he felt dizzy
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NiceGuyUKemilsedgh: except I can;t figure out how to add newly installed apps to Katapult10:25
sander_baghira is not the whole package... now I need to look for icons and such10:26
JucatoNiceGuyUK: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, Click OK immediately. it "refreshes" katapult10:26
wershave you tried launchy in windows and quicksilver for mac? how come katapult isn't as good as those two projects yet?10:26
Jucatowers: because they're different projects? made by different people?10:26
NiceGuyUKsander_: look for OS-L icons by Gupetto (Google it)10:27
Jucatonot to mention one is proprietary10:27
wersJucato: ohhh... so that's why you told me to click ok immediately in the katapults configuration window yesterday.. i did not get the point that time10:27
Jucato:P10:27
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ardchoilleJucato: You're cool.. you always make me laugh.10:31
JucatoO.o10:31
ardchoille[01:25]  * Jucato doesn't hate docks. but last time he tried to use one, he felt dizzy10:32
Jucatoah yeah hehe :)10:32
Jucatobut that was true... I really felt dizzy after using it for a while...10:32
Jucatoit was nice and all... but somehow all that dancing around...10:32
sander_!info ogre3d10:33
ubotuPackage ogre3d does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:33
ardchoille!find ogre310:34
sander_!info ogre10:34
ubotuPackage/file ogre3 does not exist in feisty10:34
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ardchoille:(10:34
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wersguys, do you hide your kickers?10:34
Jucato!Info libogre1410:34
ubotuPackage libogre14 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:34
Jucatooops. gutsy...10:35
Jucato!Info libogre14 gutsy10:35
ubotulibogre14: Object-oriented Graphics Rendering Engine (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2412 kB, installed size 6444 kB10:35
freeman10:35
Jucatosander_: easier to search using apt:/ in Konqueror or http://packages.ubuntu.com10:35
Jucato!Info libogre610:36
ubotulibogre6: Object-oriented Graphics Rendering Engine (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2181 kB, installed size 5668 kB10:36
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freeman10:37
ardchoillekxdocker won't even load, it's shows errors and exits.10:37
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NiceGuyUKardchoille: the ubuntu built one is known to be broken.  Compile latest from source if you feel brave, but the dependencies caused me to give up and use Kooldock instead10:42
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ardchoilleNiceGuyUK: Not really worth compiling to me.. not that important. I'll try kooldock10:44
ardchoilleNiceGuyUK: Thanks for the info :)10:44
NiceGuyUKanyone know how I can get mailto: links in firefox to work with kontact?  I click on them but it steadfastly ignores me10:45
NiceGuyUKardchoille: no probs, I had to remind myself which one I'd tried last week before replying to you :)10:45
flaccidit would be nice if firefox worked for opening downloads completed from the downloads as well10:45
emilsedghNickPresta: I think that could be configured via about:config10:46
kgarrodHi All, I have somehow managed to get the Nginx package half-installed, now I can't remove it. I've tried dpkg --remove but it gives me errors when stopping and starting nginx. How can I get rid of it?10:46
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ardchoilleNiceGuyUK: kxdocker is dead anyway, the dev discontinued it and is working on XQCD10:47
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llutzNiceGuyUK: set "network.protocol-handler.app.mailto" in firefox to kmail10:48
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NiceGuyUKllutz: thanks, will try that10:50
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NiceGuyUKkey doesn't exist by default, annoyingly, so having to add it10:50
llutzNiceGuyUK: create a "user.js" in your profile-dir and add: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "kmail");10:51
NiceGuyUKnice trick...will have to look up this "user.js" info for more cool ones :)10:52
flaccidhow to fix the download open thing?10:53
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ardchoilleNiceGuyUK: kooldock is pretty nice :)10:59
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maverickanyone knows how to add new fonts in kubuntu??11:10
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ardchoillemaverick: I just put them in ~/.fonts11:13
kgarrodmaverick: system settings -> appearance => font installer11:13
trprwow. that process is certainly much simpler than it was11:13
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maverickanother question, shouldn't ctrl+alt+F12  restart X11:15
maverick??11:15
emilsedghmaverick: thats alt+ctrl+backspace :)11:15
maverickright :D11:15
maverickthen what does the above combination do?11:16
emilsedghnothing i think...11:16
maverickwell it does flicker to blak screen with typing cursor flickering11:16
mavericknywayz thanks11:16
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kosharican anyone tell me how to add a desktop link to logout/shut down ect?11:27
Jucatokoshari: you can either just right-click on the desktop -> logout, or you can add an applet to the panel. not sure if you can add an icon to the desktop11:28
kosharithanks jucato but iam setting a user up that will have no panel and no right click. it will be a limited account with just amarok runninr11:29
kosharicome to think of it with amarok maximised and no panel to minimise to i wont be able to access it!11:30
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Jucatoheh11:30
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ubuntu_hmm, having  some major issues getting kubuntu to work :/11:40
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flaccidspecifically?11:40
RandyI just installed from the live cd, and when I boot up and grub loads, it says Error 1711:41
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flacciddid you google that?11:41
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Randyyeah, I have been11:41
flaccidwhat does error 17 meanb11:41
Randyhaven't found a solution yet11:41
rixxonHi - For some reason when I connect a network via knetworkmanager, firehol is started (an iptables configurator) which per-se seems broken and adds bad rules, which blocks all connections.11:42
flaccidmaybe remove firehol?11:42
Randycannont mount selected partition11:42
rixxonI'm using the standard firehol configuration which should block all incoming requests but allow all client trafic11:43
rixxonit worked at first, then it broke for no apparent reason11:43
rixxonflaccid: actually, when I think about it, I doubt it starts *firehol*. it probably does iptables-restore on some file hidden deep in somewhere :/11:44
flaccidRandy: google has many solutions, have you tried any?11:45
flaccidRandy: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=grub+error+17&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-811:46
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flaccidbrb.11:47
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wersif my home partition is full, will that affect my system's speed or does speed depend solely on the processes and ram usage?11:48
Jucatowers: if youre home partition is full, you won't be able to login to your user11:53
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wersohh.. right now, 94% of my home partition is used :D11:54
Jucatostart worrying when it gets above 95% :P11:54
werstsk tsk. got to buy an external hd11:55
Jucatoor burn :)11:55
wersyeahh11:55
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jefferHey i have downloded windowmaker and can add a dock, but how do i add apps to it ?12:03
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WoahWoahHey guys12:07
WoahWoahI'm pretty new to Kubuntu and so far think it's great!12:07
WoahWoahdoes anyone have any good online tutorials they'd recommend?12:07
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JucatoWoahWoah: Welcome to Kubuntu! Kubuntu comes with an offline documentation. you could start with that.12:09
Jucatounless you're looking for something specific?12:10
WoahWoahThank you12:10
WoahWoahNot really Jucato12:10
WoahWoahPerhaps stuff with the shell12:10
WoahWoahany other applications I could install?12:10
SlimeyPete!bash12:10
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:10
Jucato!commandline12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commandline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:10
Jucatohehe :)12:10
SlimeyPete!adept | WoahWoah12:10
ubotuWoahWoah: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:10
SlimeyPeteWoahWoah: take a look at Adept. Lots of apps there.12:11
JucatoWoahWoah: you can browse through the many, many packages available in our repositories using Adept Manager (K Menu -> System) or Add/Remove Programs12:11
SlimeyPetethousands of 'em12:11
WoahWoahOk ty12:11
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jefferdoes anyone here dock apps ?12:11
JucatoWoahWoah: you can also find community documentation in https://help.ubuntu.com/community12:11
SlimeyPeteWoahWoah: and bear in mind the following:12:12
SlimeyPete!universe12:12
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:12
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WoahWoahYeah, think I've been to that before :p12:12
Jucatoof course if he's on Feisty, all repos (except backports) are enabled already12:12
SlimeyPete(in short, you can add lots more apps to Adept by clicking a few buttons)12:12
WoahWoahIf, for instance I wanted to install networks tools, how would I go about it?12:12
boskayyy12:12
Jucatojeffer: what do you mean by "dock apps"?12:12
SlimeyPeteWoahWoah: search Adept for them.12:12
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WoahWoahOk, thanks!12:13
SlimeyPetethen tick them off and hit Apply12:13
jefferjucato, have apps on the dock.i can get the dock but cant add apps to it12:13
JucatoAdd/Remove (Adept Installer) is the one with ticks/checkboxes. Adept Manager doesnt12:13
Jucatojeffer: um.. you can add apps to the KDE panel without having to use WindowMaker12:13
WoahWoahAnd I go on the assumption these files don't have malicious code in them?12:14
jefferjucato, Yeah for my reason mine wont, maybe im missing some kind of plugin...12:14
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jeffersome*12:14
Jucatojeffer: I'm talking about the normal KDE panel. not a Dock Application Bar12:14
SlimeyPeteWoahWoah: yes12:15
SlimeyPetethey should be fine12:15
WoahWoahOk12:15
jefferjucato, Oh nah not the normal panel :P12:15
Jucatojeffer: any reason why you have to use the Dock Application Bar?12:15
jefferjucato, nah not really just thought it looks nice12:16
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Jucatohow does it look nice?12:16
Jucatojeffer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kicker/dock-application-bar-extension.html12:16
Jucatoseems like you don't manually add apps to the dock12:16
WoahWoahSo if I want to install and open something, how do I go about it? I clicked the install, not sure if anything happened12:16
jefferAh yea thanks :)12:17
JucatoWoahWoah: in Adept Manager? you have to click Apply Changes12:17
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jefferJucato, mmm just realised i wasnt thinking of a dock bar app, actually a normal panel would just do fine, sorry12:18
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Jucatojeffer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/quickstart/launching-applications.html#id248214712:19
Jucatoyou can just drag & drop apps from the K Menu to the panel for quick access, if that's what you were thinking of12:19
jefferyea thats wat i meant, sorry for confusion12:19
Jucato:)12:19
_freedom_ hi there! Does anyone know how to fix Suspend to ram with nvidia graphics card. My system goes suspend but on wake screen stays black because graphics card wont come back from suspend. So I am in GUI, system goes to suspend, but when it goes back graphics card don't.12:20
WoahWoahOk12:21
WoahWoahsays "another process is using the packaging system database" therefore I don't think it will allow installs etc12:21
WoahWoahAm going to try closing IRC12:21
WoahWoahThanks!12:21
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Jucatoer no12:22
JucatoIRC doesn't do anything to affect that12:22
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vannihi does someone knows wich is the italian channel for ubuntu support?01:05
SlimeyPete!italian01:05
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:05
werswhen is gutsy beta going to be released?01:05
vannithanks01:05
Jucatowers: next week01:05
wersyes!01:06
wersIm'ma install it01:06
wersI hope raki works in gutsy01:06
Jucatohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule01:06
Jucatolast time I used Raki, it worked in Dapper...01:06
Jucatoor was it breezy? can't recall01:07
wersyeah.. it works up to edgy01:07
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vannihi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app.01:09
vannithe problem is01:09
vanniwhen i have to choose the network interface on my winzoz software01:09
vannii can not see the network card01:10
vanniwhat can i do??01:10
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vannican someone help me?01:11
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Jucatovanni: might want to try in #winehq since it's a wine issue01:12
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wers!dock01:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:14
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fatmikehi01:15
zipperWill KDE4 be in the next stable release of kubuntu?01:15
fatmikei have a problem with qt 4.301:15
Jucatozipper:  no01:15
fatmikein 4.2.3 my app runs without probs01:15
fatmikebut compiled on qt 4.3 i get segmentation faults01:15
zipperJucato, ok01:15
zipperthanks01:15
fatmikewhat could be the error?01:15
Jucatofatmike: might want to ask in #qt01:16
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fatmikeah ok thnx01:16
fatmikeon this server?01:16
Jucatoyep01:16
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fatmikethnx01:16
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evri2The capacity of my hardrive is wrong in my sysinfo.The missing capacity is NTFS.Anyone know this problem?01:18
evri2i mean this01:19
evri2Sysinfo for 'pwnerer': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52 at 800 MHz (1608 bogomips), HD: 20/27GB, RAM: 985/1010MB, VGA: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7200 (rev a1), Audio:  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2), 129 proc's, 14.51h up01:19
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Jucatoevri2: you could try asking the #konversation guys, since it's a script01:20
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kaminskihullu01:23
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SlimeyPetehi01:24
kaminskihi pete01:24
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kaminskiwhat kind of channel is this ?01:25
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Lynourekaminski: Kubuntu support channel01:26
kaminskienglish only ?01:27
Lynourekaminski: there is #ubuntu-fi too (guessing from 'hullu')01:28
kaminskino no01:28
kaminskiactually my native tongue is german01:28
kaminskibut english is fine too01:29
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kaminskireally ?01:31
z1pp3ryes kaminski, i believe this channel is english only01:31
kaminskididnt know01:31
z1pp3rbut i know there is a german support channel as well if you want01:31
z1pp3r!german01:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:31
kaminskiactually i just try out bitchx and irc in general01:31
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Doctor_Nickhey doods01:32
kaminskiwhat do you use as a client ?01:33
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The-Compilerkaminski: As an IRC-client?01:35
kaminskiyep01:35
The-CompilerKonversion, but I like xchat, too01:35
The-Compiler*Konversation01:36
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berkesKonversation, but I like kopete too.01:36
kaminskiis it better than bitchx (i mean konversation) ?01:36
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z1pp3rkaminski, personally i like to keep my IM client seperate from my irc client, but i really like xchat for irc01:37
z1pp3ra friend of mine made a very minimalistic irc client called "LostIRC" which is pretty good also, but it has quite a steep learning curve01:38
z1pp3rHi Doctor_Nick !01:38
emilsedghcommandline people always like irssi, but Kopete is good...01:39
kaminskiim more in the mood for fancy guis right now01:39
kaminskii think i will try out xchat too01:39
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z1pp3rkaminski, i know there is a lot of different themes out there for xchat (i think they're on kde-look.org), but i havent played around with it much01:43
kaminskii will give it a shot01:46
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kaminskihey xchat is great01:48
kaminskithx and bye01:49
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hcbox_hi ppl02:17
__osh__Hi. Is there a linux program for stock analysis somewhere? Something akin to metastock or similar.02:17
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hcbox_dunno02:17
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Mr_Sonoma__osh__, beancounter - A stock portfolio performance monitoring tool02:18
Mr_Sonomasomething like that?02:18
Jucato!info qtstalker02:19
__osh__Mr_Sonoma: Beancounter? Heh. Cute name. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip.02:19
ubotuqtstalker: commodity and stock market charting and technical analysis. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.32-3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1416 kB, installed size 4248 kB02:19
Mr_Sonoma__osh__, i just ran apt-cache search stock02:19
__osh__Ah, and qtstalker too. Thanks for that too Jucato.02:19
Jucatosearch through adept/apt-cache is nice :)02:19
JucatoMr_Sonoma: funny, I did that too :)02:20
Mr_Sonomalol02:20
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lafumahey02:20
Mr_Sonomai like apt through the command line for most things, faster than the gui02:20
lafumawho uses ubuntu server edition ?02:21
lafumaor is there a channel for those users ?02:21
Jucatospecially if you have Yakuake.... much faster than launching adept...02:21
__osh__lafuma: add a k and I do. Don't think there's any difference.02:21
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JucatoI think he means the server edition02:21
Jucato!server02:21
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support02:21
Mr_Sonoma!server02:21
Mr_Sonomalol02:21
Jucato:P02:22
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lafumahmm02:22
lafumathanks02:22
__osh__There's no diff between kubuntu server and ubuntu server afaik. Am I right?02:22
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__osh__Just the cd-label.02:22
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JucatoI dont think there's a kubuntu server edition02:23
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__osh__Jucato: I hope there is, cause it's installed on my computer back home. :-)02:23
Jucatohm ok....02:23
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__osh__It's on the alternative cd. I suspect it's just ubuntu with no gui.02:24
Jucatolol02:24
Jucatothat's different02:24
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Jucatothere is a separate "ubuntu server edition"02:24
Mr_Sonomaaccording to ubotu it doesnt have a gui in the server edition, but then, why would a server need a gui?02:24
__osh__It's labeled as "server" though.02:25
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Jucatothere's a separate CD for it. the alternate install cd only has a server install (command-line system)02:25
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__osh__Mr_Sonoma: How else would you be able to administer it, if there is no gui. ;-)02:25
Jucatobut that's not the same as the server edition. that's why they changed the label in the menu.02:25
Jucatoer.. admins rarely use GUI's02:25
Jucatoexcept Windows admins02:25
Mr_Sonoma__osh__, there's the command line =)02:25
werswhat code do I use to know my software's version?02:25
Jucatowers: which software?02:26
werslike..pidgin02:26
Jucatousually "appname --version" or Help -> About02:26
wersk..i'll try it02:26
Jucatoor apt-cache policy <packagename>02:26
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Jucatoyou ain't :P02:27
Mr_Sonomalol02:27
wers??02:27
__osh__Jucato: Good to know about server edition vs server install though. Thanks for that info.02:27
Mr_Sonoma<------ too tired to catch most "more than simple" humor02:27
wersit worked02:27
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Jucatoof course it works. you doubted me? O.o02:27
wershahahah.. no! just wanted to report to you, boss!02:28
__osh__Jucato: How would you know. I might be very cute. For all you know I could be a 18yrs old blond bimbo with huge... ambitions.02:28
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Jucato:P02:28
__osh__But since I'm doing sysadmin work that's higly improbable... :-(02:29
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Jucatowho knows? anyway offtopic so stopping here :P02:29
Mr_Sonomai know a few good lookin ladies that work in I/T02:29
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EaglerayHi, what's the name of the binary for the kde tray power management utility?02:31
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stdinEagleray: it's not a binary, it's actually a python script :p but it's called "guidance-power-manager"02:34
Eagleraystdin: that explains why I couldn't find it! thanks :-D02:36
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maverick_anyone here familiar with 915resolution settings???02:36
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sbusojhjkhghjk02:39
Eagleraysbuso: do you have a question?02:39
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sbusooh, no.. gracias02:39
sbusoestaba probando...02:39
sbuso:D02:39
sbusodo you speak spanish?02:40
Jucato!es | sbuso02:40
ubotusbuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:40
sbusono, no necesito ayuda02:40
emilsedgh!es | sbuso02:41
ubotusbuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:41
JucatoI think he just said he didn't need help02:41
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Jucato!91502:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:41
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sbusook, yes i need psychological aid02:43
sbuso:-D02:43
Jucatothis isn't the place for that02:43
sbusook02:43
sbusobyee02:43
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werssbuso, I'm a psychologist02:46
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wersjust kidding... try #psychology02:47
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kkathmanBluesKaj:  I know the feeling :)02:51
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geniiQuiet here :)03:06
SlimeyPetesssh.... I's huntin' wabbits03:07
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BluesKajlots to read in the feeds this morning03:09
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Mr_Sonomahow much trouble do people have playing windows based video games? i understand running wine and all. what games do yall run?03:11
__osh__I play windows at work... ;-)03:11
SlimeyPeteI used to run Baldur's Gate, but otherwise I've not had much success03:11
SlimeyPetesupposedly HL2 and WoW run well03:12
SlimeyPeteI tend to stick to games which have a native Linux client03:12
__osh__Unibet poker runs through wine but has a horrible net-lag. It came with an "upgrade" to the client.03:13
BluesKajsome ppl who want to play games buy PS2s or Xboxs or Wiis ...makes sense to me03:15
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Mr_Sonomalol a friend of mine is wanting to swap to linux but wants his games to work and yes he also has xbox and wii03:16
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__osh__And some people who don't have time to play much feels that xbox/wii/ps3 is overkill for 1-2h gaming/month. To each his own.03:17
Jucato!offtopic03:17
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:17
BluesKajwell a good compromise is a windows partition03:18
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__osh__Or wine/cedega. I hear good things about cedega but haven't tried it.03:19
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gn00bjust installed kubuntu on my hp ze2000 laptop. followed the instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1189681&postcount=105 . before i started, wlan showed up in the network setting, now it doesn't. can anyone help me get my broadcom 4318 working03:22
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__osh__gn00b: If you open up a konsole and write "iwconfig". Does it show anything?03:23
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gn00blo, eth0, eth2 all say 'no wireless extensions03:24
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tailsfanHi There03:25
SlimeyPetehi03:25
tailsfanI was wondering, for when you try to install packages in Kubuntu with Adept Manager, does it install the necessary packages with it?03:26
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stdintailsfan: yeah, all dependencies are installed with it03:26
__osh__gn00b: Do you know which module controls your wireless card? Is it in the list if you type "lsmod"?03:26
tailsfanbecause I want to install something, but I get a red "INSTALL BREAK" message before i install anything, what does that mean03:26
__osh__I don't have the same card as you do so I don't know which module you'll need.03:27
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BluesKajerr he has the broadcom 431803:27
BluesKaj!info broadcom03:28
ubotuPackage broadcom does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:28
gn00b__osh__, what exactly am i looking for in lsmod03:28
Jucatotailsfan: it means that what you are requesting Adept to do (like install something) would potentially break the system.03:28
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stdintailsfan: it means for some reason installing that package will break another. best thing to do it try to install it with "sudo apt-get install PackageName" and see what that says, post the output to pastebin so we can see if you want (link to pastebin is in the topic)03:28
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Jucatotailsfan: you can also click on Preview Changes to see what will be broken, but better use apt-get to have clearer error messages03:29
__osh__BluesKaj: Yeah, I read that too. Do you know which module controls the broadcom 4318? I don't.03:29
tailsfanthanks I figured it out03:29
geniibcm43xx03:29
__osh__genii: thanks.03:29
tailsfanI did use apt-get and my package is too old for Feisty03:29
genii__osh__: np03:29
__osh__gn00b: Look for bcm43xx as genii suggested.03:29
tailsfanalso, is there anyway to get the getdeb repository into Kubuntu as well03:30
gn00bbcm43xx not listed anywhere in there03:31
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__osh__gn00b: Ok. Try "locate bcm43xx"03:31
tailsfanWhy not stdin?03:31
__osh__gn00b: or "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"03:31
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stdintailsfan: because they are unsupported packages, if they break there's nothing we can do, as we didn't make the packages03:32
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tailsfanwell, is there a pidgin for Kubuntu that IS suported?03:33
stdintailsfan: pidgin is just gaim renamed, use gaim for now03:33
JucatoGutsy will be out in a month, and it has Pidgin. or if you can't wait, beta 1 will be out next week...03:34
__osh__Is pidgin better than kopete? If so, in what way?03:34
tailsfanas a matter of fact< i was trying to install Gutsy,b tu I need to wait for a alt. install CD to come out03:34
tailsfanall I know is that it has MySpaceIM support03:35
stdintailsfan: there already is an alternate cd for it, there's been one for every tribe and there's the daily ones too03:35
Jucatoto come out? there are daily builds being generated everyday (daily...) or you can just install using Tribe 5 and upgrade to the current03:35
stdinsnap!03:35
Jucatoyou won...03:35
stdin:)03:35
geniiheh03:35
gn00bafter doing 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx' i now see 'bcm43xx   125332   0' and 'ieee80211softmac   31232  1   bcm43xx' and 'ieee80211   34760   2   bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac'03:36
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genii!helpersnack |stdin03:36
ubotustdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:36
fkmDoes anyone know that the Z: Partition in the Wine konfiguration is for? It's from the default installation on Kubuntu.03:36
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Jucatoagain, just *a& cookie...03:36
__osh__gn00b: Did the output of "iwconfig" change?03:36
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gn00byes03:37
fkmIt seems that the target is / which I don't like and what's weird is that the Type is Floppy X\03:37
skarfaceyeah it's just your linux file tree03:37
Jucatofkm: remember that Windows only understands A:, B:, C: etc03:37
gn00bi now have eth1 as the broadcom 431803:37
gn00bbut still not working03:37
fkmJucato, Yes, but why is this partition there? What's the purpose of it?03:37
JucatoZ: just points to the / partition03:37
skarfacefkm: so "windows" can see your linux stuff03:38
__osh__gn00b: right. Now do an "iwlist eth1 scan"03:38
Jucatobecause Windows doesn't understasnd / , /home, etc03:38
fkmSo it points to the root directory. But I don't need that03:38
__osh__gn00b: Do you see your access-point?03:38
Jucatoso it has to map the Linux filesystem to different letters03:38
stdinwine runs in a sort of chroot, if there is no drive letter assigned somewhere then wine can't access it03:38
gn00beth1   no scan results03:38
Jucatofkm: you might not need it. but Wine might. best check with #winehq03:38
fkmstdin, So it's some kind of workaround that is needed for the other 'partitions' to work properly?03:39
fkmJucato, Ok, I'll do that03:39
fkmThank you both!03:39
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stdinfkm: so, if you have an /media/windows/myapp.exe, then running "wine /media/windows/myapp.exe" actually runs "Z:\media\windows\myapp.exe" in wine03:40
__osh__gn00b: Hmm. That's not good.03:40
bryanhmm03:40
gn00biwconfig shows 'access point: invalid'03:40
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gremlinbt:S03:40
fkmstdin, Ah ok. So you don't have to move all the files into ~/.wine/ :D That makes sense (i.e. for install files)03:41
stdinexactly :)03:41
stdinunix permissions still rule tho, so no wine app can do anything your user can't03:41
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__osh__gn00b: Mhm...03:41
stdinso it is safe :)03:41
gremlinbtmeh03:42
fkmThat's good. Because I was afraid that with this 'partition' windows viruses may have a way to ruin my system :)03:42
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Jucatowindows viruses won't work on Linux...03:42
stdin"rm -r ~/.wine" will fix any wine problem :p03:42
Pe3khello, pls I can't play video files fullscreen with mplayer in feisty fawn. with dapper it works good on same box. (I use -vo xv option in dapper but this doesn't help in feisty) any idea?03:42
fkmYes, But don't they have a chance to work with wine?03:42
__osh__Jucato: Some have been shown to do. Through wine. =)03:42
Jucatowork on / ?03:43
__osh__Jucato: Don't think that they cause any real damage thoguh.03:43
stdinPe3k: use "-zoom" too03:43
fkmThat's my point. Even they just ruin the wine installation.03:43
gremlinbt"run windows virii natively on WINE "03:43
gremlinbtwhat an ad03:43
gremlinbt: )03:43
fkmHeheh :)03:43
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fkmYou could add it to the list of features03:43
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gremlinbtlol03:44
MinnozzIs there a known bug with WPA-PSK authentification?03:44
Pe3kstdin: ok I'll try thanks03:44
fkmMinnozz, Works fine here03:44
Minnozzfkm: I guess there's another problem then03:44
__osh__gn00b: I've got to leave but have a look at config options to iwconfig. Set channel and essid and such.03:45
MinnozzMy wireless card works fine with aircrack (tested it with that) but can't connect to my AP03:45
__osh__gn00b: Perhaps someone else in here can help you better than I can.03:45
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fkmMinnozz, I have some problems with the connection though. I have to be quite close to the AP to be able to connect to the AP and loose the connection when going further away. But I don't think this is related to the authentication/encryption.03:45
gn00bthanx for your help03:45
gn00bhave a good day03:45
__osh__gn00b: Thanks and good luck.03:46
fkmMinnozz, Try it when you're about 1m away from the AP. Don't go too close! Because if you are too close it won't work either (even under Windows).03:46
Minnozzfkm: I'm afraid I can't get that close right now, but I'll try another time03:47
fkmkk03:47
fkmgl ;)03:47
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wershow do I add the del.icio.us search engine to konqueror's search engines?04:03
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clintcI'm running kubuntu 7.04 with kernel 2.6.20-16 and alsa version 1.0.14rc1... I'd like to try a newer version of the alsa drivers, does anyone know the procedure or could give me a link for doing the upgrade04:05
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Jucatowers: follow this guide, but replace with del.icio.us http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5657.004:06
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Jucatowers: use this for the Search URL: http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us&p=\{@}&type=all04:07
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wershow about for the url shortcuts field sir Jucato? is that required?04:10
Jucatoyes.04:10
Jucatodefinitely the url shortcut...04:10
Jucatowers: did you know that you could use those URL shorctuts without having to switch search engines in Konqi?04:10
Jucatogg:search terms04:10
Jucatoggi:search images04:11
Jucatodict:define words04:11
wersohhh really??04:11
wersyou mean.. using the google search engine?04:11
Jucatoyeah. type those in the address bar (not the search engine)04:11
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werswowwwww04:12
werskool04:12
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BluesKajclintc, your alsa driver is the latest version and the problem you have (if one exists) is the soundcard driver or your kmix and alsa setup04:12
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wersso I can enter any url shortcut that I want?04:12
Jucatoyep. make your own04:12
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clintcBluesKaj: wouldn't 1.0.14rc1 be an earlier version than 1.0.1404:13
Jucatowers: I just tested it right now. it works04:13
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werswow.. that's kooool04:14
wersnow, all I miss in firefox is stumbleupon04:14
wersahhahaha04:14
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skarfacestumbleupon works in firefox04:14
clintcit would be hard to replicate all the firefox extension goodness in konq04:15
clintcI tend to use both04:15
Jucatoyeah04:15
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wersJucatskee, you don't know stumbleupon!? that's the reason why I discovered ubuntu!04:16
wershehe04:16
BluesKajclintc, I don't see much of a difference , but having the latest isn't necessarily the greatest ... if the present alsa driver works, why bother ?04:16
BluesKajclintc, but if you must: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/56600/ALSA-driver.html04:17
Jucatowers: yep. I'm not updated with the latest web trends and stuff :)04:17
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clintcBluesKaj: I have rev-e of the m-audio delta 66 card... everything appears to work but no sound come forth,, the #alsa channel suggested using a newer alsa driver04:18
clintcBluesKaj: thanks for the link... looking now04:18
cookiehi there, can you  give the chinese ubuntu IRC channel?04:19
Jucato!cn | cookie04:19
ubotucookie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:19
BluesKaj!cn04:19
BluesKajoops04:19
Jucato:P04:19
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cookiethanks04:20
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TomerzI installed ntfs-3g... now... how do i play music from window partition?04:31
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highvolt1geHi. How do I install KDE4 on gutsy?04:33
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stdinhighvolt1ge: same was as in feisty, except you don't need feisty-backports04:34
Dr_willishttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php04:34
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devianceHow can I display hidden files in Konqueror?04:37
devianceAlso where is firefox's chrome stored04:37
Jucatodeviance: View menu -> Show Hidden Files04:37
Dr_willisHmm.. menu item  in the menus i thougt. :)04:37
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Jucatodeviance: ~/.mozilla/firefox/  maybe04:37
Dr_willisthere it is. One of those 'set it and forget it' items.04:38
devianceThanks :D04:38
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naknomikWhy is KMail showing all my mail folders as subfolders of Inbox?04:42
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Jucatoif you want, you can ask in #kontact too04:43
naknomikIs there compiz available for kubuntu?04:43
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hcboxyes04:43
Jucato!compiz | naknomik04:43
ubotunaknomik: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:43
sergiohello04:43
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naknomikHow about compiz-fusion?04:43
Jucatocompiz-fusion is just compiz + merged beryl04:45
Dr_willisWell one good thing - when gutsy gets released.. it will allready be in there. :)04:45
Dr_willisand people will stop asking about it. (yea right!)04:45
Jucatoin where?04:45
Jucato"already be in there" where?04:46
Dr_willisThoguth compwiz was to be inclided by default in gutsy. or did i just missread an artical.04:46
Jucatoyou must have read about Ubuntu ;)04:46
sergioI have a problem with target nvidia geforce fx 550004:46
Dr_willisJucato,  your kidding the kubuntu/ubuntu guys are going to be splitting on that?04:47
naknomikAre KDE 4packages now available in feisty backports?04:47
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Dr_willisthen again i always install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop :)04:47
sergioI can not install nvidia driver to ubuntu 7.0404:47
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Dr_willishttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php04:47
sergioplease, help04:47
Dr_willisnaknomik,  that site says they are.04:47
Dr_willissergio,  and whats your video card?04:47
naknomikhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php I'm reading this04:47
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Dr_willisbeta2 is better even. :) heh..04:48
Dr_willisgoogle gave me an old link04:48
JucatoDr_willis: I don't think we have reached a decision in Kubuntu yet. given compiz/beryl's less than stellar integration with KDE...04:48
Jucato!kde404:48
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php04:48
Dr_willisJucato,  heh. :) What! ya mean compwiz/beryl is not Perfect! everyone seems to want it so badly it has to be perfect by now!04:48
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Jucatogives you a recent link ^^ :)04:48
sergioinstall its04:49
JucatoDr_willis: everyone wanted Windows too right? :)04:49
naknomikI have not used KDE since KDE 2.0, I was in gnome camp for years.04:49
Dr_willisI bet with kde4 it will be perfect!04:49
JucatoI bet GNOME 3.0 will too :)04:49
Turazoorhi all, i'm having problems with Azureus, it loads and then close straight away according to console there is a problem with java apparently this module [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172] , can anyone help?04:49
naknomikBut I'm getting sick of too much simplicity (stupidity really) in gnome now.04:49
Dr_willisof coruse -- i tend to use fluxbox with a few of my own tweaks.04:49
Dr_willisnaknomik,  :) been there.. did that..04:49
Dr_willisi leave gnome on for the wife.04:49
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kingofnicjust curious: if I install KDE 4, can I still use older Qt programs or are there conflicts?04:54
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stdinKDE4 will not overwrite your KDE3 install, they are kept separate04:54
emilsedghkingofnic: no conflict04:54
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kingofnicok, i will give it a try, i think04:55
Dr_willisbut will all kde3 apps work right with kde4 - i think he is asking.04:55
kingofnicyes, dr_willis04:55
Jucatoyesh04:55
Dr_willisnot even a Slight chance of an problem? :)04:55
roothi!!, kubuntu in spanish???04:55
naknomikHow do I tell Xephyr to start a window with specific size?04:56
sergiowell04:56
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uboturoot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:56
Jucatonaknomik: Xephyr -screen 1024x768 :104:56
Jucatoreplace that with your resolution04:56
Jucatowindow size is based on the resolution you feed Xephyr04:56
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poison--anyone knows how to use secure SSL with gFTP?05:01
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darkadmiralist there anyone with a real cool .bashrc, i lost mine05:01
dediim looking for a filebrowser better than konqueror, with file transfer queues and more options. does anything like that exist?05:02
darkadmiraldolphin05:02
stdindarkadmiral: look in /etc/skel05:02
Jucatotansfer queues? don't think so05:03
dedithanks darkadmiral, will check it out05:03
darkadmiralstdin: i have had colors in my termian for folders etc... but now everything ist white05:03
Jucatohm... Dolphin certainly doesn't have more options than Konqueror :)05:03
stefanI got an outlook-contact file attached to email. I see a winmail.dat. tnef things are installed also ktnef. But i can not add the contact to kmail- contact. Can someone help?05:04
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jhutchinsstefan: Perhaps it's not really a contact file.05:04
jhutchinsstefan: Should be  a .vcd05:04
jhutchinsstefan: If it's a tnef, it's probably a trojan.05:04
stdindarkadmiral: in your .bashrc should be " alias ls='ls --color=auto' " that gives ls it's colors05:05
dediJucato: you may know anything else?05:05
stefanno, its from a collegue inside the firm05:05
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stefanANd I see what He has done05:05
stefangoing to contact ricght-click and snt05:05
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Jucatodedi: I don't know of a file manager that has "transfer queues" (whatever those are)... but other KDE file managers would be Krusader and Dolphin (less options, more simplistic)05:06
Dr_willisi thought I saw transfer ques in BeOS. :)05:06
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dediJucato: with transfer queues i mean that it queues the files when there already any copy/moving from this harddisk, instead of doing it both the same time and slow down the speed radically05:07
Dr_willislike when ya copu a large file to a drive. then while its copying you copy 3 other files..  they dotn all try to copy at the same time, making the hard drive to spasmatic.05:07
darkadmiralmh y does the color ls work in konsole but not in urxvt05:07
jhutchinsstefan: Well, I've known of firms where the inside email was worse than outside.05:08
Dr_willisdarkadmiral,  your TERM setting is not correct would be my first guess05:08
Jucatodedi: hm.. not aware of something like that... sorry05:08
jhutchinsstefan: Especially if they're using LookOut.05:08
Dr_willis you can use ls --color=always, or exporet a proper TERM setting.05:08
dediJucato: ok, thanks anyway05:08
stefan:)05:08
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jhutchinsdedi: what browsers have you seen with that feature?05:09
stefanYes, i looked to outlook and you can sent it as vcard unt menu "action"05:09
stefanpuh05:09
stefandoes someone know if there is a ubuntu directory-server planned?05:09
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stdinstefan: #ubuntu-devel would be a place to ask that05:10
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dedijhutchins: only for windows, a long time ago. i think it was called ultra-explorer05:10
ribena007that was one long brb lol :P 2 days my kubuntu messed up summet about fsck hey jhutchins how you been?05:11
Lynourestefan: what do you mean by a directory-server? If something like active directory, try ldap05:11
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jhutchinsEnh.  Need coffee.05:11
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darkadmiralDr_willis: oh i think i'm using not the bash05:12
darkadmiralDr_willis: how can i find out?05:12
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naknomikI started KDE 4 inside Xephyr and all I see is an empty panel with two blobs reading 'This object could not be created'.05:13
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stdinyep, that's KDE4b205:13
root_spanish?05:13
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naknomikstdin: no menus?05:13
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stdin!es | ag3r, set is as your default05:13
ubotuag3r, set is as your default: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:13
stdinnaknomik: yep05:14
naknomikare there any programs that work?05:14
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stdinall the programs work, if you can launch them :)05:14
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stdinuse Alt-F2 to launch krunner and start them05:14
naknomikI'm inside Xephyr so Alt-F2 won't work05:16
stdinpress Ctrl-Shift first05:16
naknomikwhat programs are worth trying?05:16
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korsakoffsalve05:34
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stdinkorsakoff ?05:35
korsakoffyep hi05:35
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korsakoffsorry, tought was the italian channel05:35
Jucato!it | korsakoff05:35
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ubotukorsakoff: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:35
korsakoffthx, i'm going to try asking there05:35
stdinahh, because "slave" means something different in english :p05:35
korsakoffyeah i know05:36
korsakoffsalve means hi05:36
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Jucatoit's salve, not slave :P05:37
korsakoffyep05:37
korsakoffi explained what was my first word here :D05:37
Jucatovale :)05:38
stdin!it | Jucato :)05:38
ubotuJucato :): Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:38
Jucatosorry, I wasn't speaking Italian05:38
stdin!en | Jucato05:38
ubotuJucato: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:38
stdinthen05:38
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Jucatovale is also an english word, isn't it? :)05:39
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korsakoffehm, i make my question also here:05:40
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korsakoffmy audio card is recognized by the system, but when i try to play something with amarok (eg. the default ogg file) it doesn't play any sound at all05:41
korsakoffi've alsa installed05:41
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Dr_williskorsakoff,  check your mixer settings. may have somthing muted.05:41
korsakoffuhm i type alsamixer on konsole05:41
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korsakoffand putted all the available up and stored with alsactl store05:42
Dr_willisnote that alsamixer has a lot of 'sliders' off to the side also you might not see at first.05:42
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korsakoffyep05:42
Dr_willisuse the right arrow to get to the right/side/screens :)05:42
korsakoffyes05:42
Dr_willisother then that. if it seems to be playing.. well..05:42
Dr_willistry playing somthing from a terminal and look for error messages.05:42
korsakoffbut some of the sliders couldn't be rise05:42
korsakoffhow can i play from terminal?05:43
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Dr_willistry a simple playuer like that oog123 or whatever they are called05:43
Dr_willis!find oogmp305:43
Dr_willisoops05:43
Dr_willis!find oog05:43
ubotuPackage/file oogmp3 does not exist in feisty05:43
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ubotuFound: googlizer, libgoogle-perftools-dev, libgoogle-perftools0, libnet-google-perl, libwww-google-calculator-perl (and 1 others)05:43
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Dr_willisi forget the name of the console plaeyrs.05:43
Jucatosox05:43
Dr_willis!find 12305:43
ubotuFound: flac123, libcdg123-0, libcdg123-dev, libroxen-123session, mpc123 (and 10 others)05:43
Jucato!more05:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:43
Jucatohaha I forgot the command for that more :)05:44
Dr_willis!find mpg12205:44
Dr_willis!find mpg12305:44
Dr_willis:) silly typos05:44
ubotuPackage/file mpg122 does not exist in feisty05:44
ubotuFound: mpg123-el, mpg321, xmms-mpg123-ja, mpg123, mpg123-alsa (and 4 others)05:44
Jucato!info sox05:44
ubotusox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB05:44
Dr_willis!info mpg12305:44
ubotumpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (feisty), package size 134 kB, installed size 336 kB05:44
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Dr_willis!find 32105:44
ubotuFound: geant321, geant321-data, geant321-doc, libgeant321-2, libgeant321-2-dev (and 1 others)05:44
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Jucatoheh ok that's a bit too much already Dr_willis :)05:45
Jucatoyou can also pm the bot :)05:45
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Dr_willisHeck i cant even rember the name of the player i am looking for.. I thought it was like mp312305:45
Dr_willisor 123mp3 or.. heck with it. :)05:45
snowdonkeyHey guys.  I can't get my rear speakers to work with my 5.1 system.  I read online Gnome has an option for rear speakers to duplicate the front.  Is there an equivalent (or fix) in KDE?05:46
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JucatoDr_willis: <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (feisty), package size 134 kB, installed size 336 kB05:46
Dr_willisThat plays mp3s?05:46
Jucatoisn't mp3 mpeg layer 3?05:46
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Dr_willisI dont know.. i aint had my coffee today. everything is sort of Low-res05:47
stdinmpeg1 layer 3 actually :)05:47
Jucatoheh05:47
Jucatook ok05:47
ubunturosdoes anybody have a bookmarked link on a how-to for pppoeconf ? (with screenshots)05:47
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Dr_willisgonna make some coffee as soon as i get the Gutsy installer going on my other machine. :)05:48
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phoenixzHi there, Im having problems with my kubuntu 7.04 on a dell latitude d620 laptop.. When I try to play video (avi, mpg, dvd) with kaffeine, or mplayer, I get a black screen.. audio does work though.. I think I got all drivers installed , compiz is working okay for example.. Does anybody know what could fix this05:48
Jucatoubunturos: no screenshots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE05:48
ubunturosmy problem is the same as this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549317&highlight=pppoeconf05:48
Dr_willisphoenixz,  you tried playing them with compwiz disabled?05:49
ubunturosJucato: I have seen that. Doesn't help much05:49
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phoenixzDr_willis, Well, I got a line that I added to X that did make video work, but it wreked compiz...05:50
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phoenixzDr_willis,   Option          "LinearAlloc" "8160"05:51
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Jucatoubunturos: when you setup pppoeconf, did you answer Yes when it asked whether you want to start it at boot?05:51
phoenixzDr_willis, The thing is that compiz DID work correctly before with video..05:51
ubunturosJucato: yes05:51
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Dr_willisInteresting.05:51
phoenixzDr_willis, on another compure05:52
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phoenixzcomputer05:52
Dr_willissame video cards?05:52
ubunturosJucato: on a live CD internet works, though. After installation, firefox states "Server not found"05:52
Jucatoubunturos: hm.. sorry no other idea...05:52
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phoenixzDr_willis, well, Fedora on a desktop compu with NVidia card.. :) This latitude has an Intel 945 chipset05:53
ubunturosJucato: umm, ok05:53
Jucatoubunturos: with screenshots: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=208c758b5d9598afd1daadaa6fe1dc2a&showtopic=584398&pid=588813486&st=0&#entry58881348605:53
ubunturosJucato: thanks. :)05:54
ag3rhi05:55
ag3rsomeone to help me to run beryl05:55
tonhi from amsterdam05:55
poison--amsterdam rocks05:56
ag3rextension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"05:56
ag3rhow can i repair this?05:56
phoenixzton, pot is baaaad, mkaay?05:56
wersdoes uploading webcam videos on kopete really work?05:58
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deviance!java05:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:59
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devianceDoes firefox need a plugin to run java05:59
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poison--whats a good html graphical editor?05:59
poison--yes deviance06:00
Jucatodeviance: yes. sun-java6-plugin06:00
poison--havin issues with it here too06:00
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devianceOh and sun-java5-jre is team speak?06:00
deviance!info sun-java5-jre06:00
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB06:00
Jucatoor sun-java5-plugin06:00
devianceAdept is telling me its team speak!06:00
Jucatowhichever java you are using06:00
poison--lol06:00
Jucatoyeah there's a bug in adept06:00
devianceAh06:01
devianceIs there a better program to use than adept then?06:01
Turazooranyone know whether i can get counterstrike on linux tee hee06:01
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devianceYou can Turazoor06:02
Jucatodeviance: the bug is just with descriptions. it still works06:02
deviance!wine06:02
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:02
deviance!info wine06:02
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB06:02
deviance!package managers06:02
Jucatodeviance: why?06:02
devianceJust wondering :P06:03
Turazoordeviance: sweet!.. can i run the setup thru wine?06:03
Jucatosynaptic (GTK/GNOME), kpackage (KDE), apt-get, aptitude (Command Line)06:03
devianceGoogle for a guide06:03
thomassis there skype for linux?06:03
thomasskubuntu?06:03
Jucato!skype | thomass06:03
ubotuthomass: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto06:03
SlimeyPeteyup, thomass06:03
deviancekpackage eh?06:03
thomassi can't find it in adept package06:03
thomassi entered skype06:04
deviance!info skype06:04
ubotuPackage skype does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:04
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jhutchinsthomass: duh, follow th eurl.06:04
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Jucatothomass: see the guide above06:05
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ubunturos!dhclient06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:06
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thomassJucato: ok i'm reading it i downloaded the .deb file06:06
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jhutchinsthomass: sorry to be rude, but that guide should have all the answers.06:08
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Dr_Willis_but you are rude in a polite way. :)06:10
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lelik 06:11
thomassi got dependency problems it didn't install06:11
lelikhello06:12
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Jucato!hi | lelik06:12
ubotulelik: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:12
jhutchinsthomass: Perhaps you need to enable some of the additional repositories for the dependencies.06:12
thomassjhutchins: hmmmm dont' know what repositories are06:13
jhutchins!repos | thomass06:13
ubotuthomass: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:13
lelikdo you speak rus ?06:13
Jucatodpkg doesn't automatically resolve dependencies...06:13
jhutchinsthomass: They are sub-sets of available packages.06:13
Jucato!ru | lelik06:13
ubotulelik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:13
jhutchins!ru | lelik06:13
lelik!ru06:13
jhutchinsYeah, let's not abuse the bot too badly.06:14
lelikSENQ06:14
bottigerHow do I mount a bin/cue file ?06:14
Dr_Willis_bottiger:  convert it to .iso then mount the .iso normally06:15
Dr_Willis_!iso06:15
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:15
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bottigerDr_Willis_: guess what my next question is :)06:15
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Dr_Willis_bottiger:  guess what i alwready answered.06:15
Dr_Willis_:)06:15
bottigerDr_Willis_: ohh - I'll take a look at the link :P06:15
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centermedia#ubuntu-pt06:16
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snowdonkeyHey guys.  I can't get my rear speakers to work with my 5.1 system.  I read online Gnome has an option for rear speakers to duplicate the front.  Is there an equivalent (or fix) in KDE?06:20
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thomassI added the repository in my sources list, updated and still said I had dependency problems06:23
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deviance!calc06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about calc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:25
deviance!calculator06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about calculator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:25
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thomasswhy does it say the in package installer that is "broken"06:28
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thomasswhy does it say the in package installer that is "broken"06:35
thomasswhen I apply changes in package manager that the installation is broken and could not be installed06:36
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FT1good evening...06:39
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jhutchinsA gut check on Gutsy Gibbon: Windows thinking: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/to/~3/159065699/article.pl06:40
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jhutchins!info kcalc | deviance06:40
ubotudeviance: kcalc: calculator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 200 kB, installed size 728 kB06:40
jhutchinsthomass: Not being sure what repositories you've enabled, I would suggest that you use aptitude from the command line instead of the silly GUI thing.06:41
jhutchinsIt will give you more meaningful feedback.06:41
jhutchinsI would imagine that skype requires universe and multiverse, and that the documentation mention that somewhere.06:42
Jucatodeviance: SpeedCrunch is the default installed calculator btw06:42
devianceAh06:42
thomassjhutchins: yea i used ommand line06:42
devianceThats why I couldnt find it :P06:42
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thomasspackages have unmet dependencies, broken package06:43
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devianceWhat is the pagh06:47
deviancepager?06:47
deviance!pager06:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:47
emilsedghdeviance: thats about virtual desktops06:48
Jucatodeviance: what?06:48
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FT1it is the small display that shows he desktops that you have...06:48
devianceWhen I right click my window switcher it sais launch the pager06:48
emilsedghthats a kicker applet, Panel->Right Click->Add Applet06:49
Jucatodeviance:  ah yeah. there's a standalone virtual desktop pager app. not installed by default06:49
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jhutchinsThis is going to be fun when we have to remember that people could be running either kde or beryl.06:50
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Jucatopfft...06:52
BluesKajjhutchins, well then let the eyecandy followers setup a chat/advice room :)06:52
BluesKaj#eyecandy06:52
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: Compizbuntu.06:53
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sbucatmmm06:54
FT1i've got a question...06:54
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genii!ask | FT106:59
ubotuFT1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:59
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FT1sorry...07:00
FT1i'm trying to compile kvirc from sources and have a problem with dlopen-capabilities...07:01
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FT1does anyone know how to solve it...?07:01
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geniiFT1: What is the error message?07:05
ksivajiFT1 what error you got07:05
ksivajigenii hi07:05
geniiksivaji: Hi :)07:05
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ksivaji:-)07:05
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FT1it says: ni dlopen capabilites found. It looks that your system has no interface to the dynamic linker ?07:06
ksivajiFT1 can you paste the error in pastebin07:06
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FT1just a second...07:07
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puster1i needed to switch to the other computer07:08
puster1### CONFIGURE ERROR:07:08
puster1###  No dlopen capabilities found.07:08
puster1###  It looks that your system has no interface to the dynamic linker ?07:08
puster1###  If you're on linux, you either miss libdl , or the linker is not07:08
puster1###  able to find it. Make sure that libdl is in /lib or /usr/lib.07:08
puster1###  If you're not on linux, please drop a mail to pragma at kvirc dot net07:08
puster1###  describing your system and I'll try to fix it.07:08
BluesKaj!pastebin | puster107:09
ubotupuster1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:09
ksivajiBluesKaj hi07:09
BluesKajhi ksivaji07:10
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jhutchins"Moreover, somewhere along the line, a strain of what might be called "Windows thinking" seems to have entered into the project's plans. Free software has always been about user education and choice, yet, at times, Ubuntu seems to forget these goals in favor of a quick fix that keeps users ignorant and unaware of alternatives." - Bruce Byfield, Datamation; http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/11070_3700666_407:11
geniiback07:12
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FT1ok... pasted it there...07:13
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geniiFT1: url please07:13
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FT1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38005/07:14
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LjLany idea why a tomtom one wouldn't mount automatically on KDE when any plain USB key will? it can be mounted manually. it doesn't show in media://07:18
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Dr_willis_whats a tomtom?07:21
jhutchinsgps07:21
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jhutchinsLjL: more to it than a simple storage device, it can do tracking via usb.07:21
Dr_willis_Ahh. :)   interesting. check dmesg see what its seeing at?07:21
Dr_willis_could be its playing it safe and not automounting it - since its not sure what it is.07:22
thomassyea so I can't install skype on my computer07:22
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LjLjhutchins: uhm, not by default i don't think. i'm pretty sure that by default it just acts as a USB mass storage device -- although, evidently, with something not quite protocol-standard07:23
jhutchinsWhat does it store?07:23
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ksivajiplease someone suggest me a driver for http://pastebin.com/d676785e407:23
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jhutchinsLjL: Automatic recognition of a device depends on that particular device's USB ID being in the database, not on it being a certain generic type of device.07:24
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jhutchinsksivaji: For what?07:24
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ksivajijhutchins  http://pastebin.com/d676785e407:25
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LjLjhutchins: well i must admit i know very little of how automounting works. but from syslog, one infers that it's being readily recognized as a storage device07:26
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ksivajijhutchins i think s3 unichrome07:27
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pjesiHi guys, it looks like the battery applet is gone from my system after an update. Any ideas how to bring it back?07:27
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ksivajido right click on panel -> add panel07:28
ksivajido right click on taskbar* -> add panel07:28
pjesiksivaji: yes but the applet doesn't show up07:29
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haraldHow can I mount a NTFS partition with ro rights only and that normal users can read this partition (with fstab).07:31
pjesiman it is bad when these updates continue to break my setup07:32
haraldtake care with the java update =)07:33
jhutchinsksivaji: That pastebin is for your whole system.  Lots of different drivers involved.07:33
ksivajihow to find the driver that i need07:33
BluesKajpjesi, look in add-remove programs ands type battery in the searchbar07:35
jhutchinsksivaji: Driver for what?  everything listed there has a working driver loaded.07:35
ksivajidriver for vedio07:35
ksivajidriver for vedio card07:35
ksivaji!xserver-xorg-video-openchrome07:35
jhutchinsAre you not getting video?07:35
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ksivajiya but i can play games07:36
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ksivajiya but i canT* play games07:36
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jhutchinsGames written for Nvidia cards?07:36
jhutchinsWindows games?07:37
pjesiBluesKaj: ok07:37
ksivajino open arena07:37
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hitmanWillyksivaji: well, that's based on one of the quake engines...i think quake 307:38
ksivajiit strucks  as i am playing i cant do anything07:38
jhutchinsksivaji: As far as I can tell, you have the driver that's available.  You can try checking with S3 or xorg to see if there's anything newer, but I don't think it's a driver issue.07:38
Dr_willis_egads - all this compwiz stuff is making me dizy. :)07:38
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hitmanWillyDr_willis_: well, it could be worse...i just got wow up and running...lol07:39
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: well, a couple of days ago anyway07:39
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Dr_willis_hitmanWilly,  try that DungeonRunner game yet. Its so colorfull.. it gave me a hedache.07:39
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ksivajijhutchins no  i saw in forums people who have s3 unichrome cant play games because of driver07:40
Dr_willis_Gotta love a game thats free for the 'basics' :)  only $5 a mo for the enhanced07:40
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: hmmm, no, have to look into it07:40
Dr_willis_hitmanWilly,  by NcSoft.07:40
Dr_willis_basiclly a Diablo  remake with a Sence of Humor.07:40
ksivajihitmanWilly  quake 3 means07:40
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: ugh, i hated diablo07:40
Dr_willis_hitmanWilly,  to each their own. :) i dont care for Warcraft any more.07:41
Dr_willis_Got Lord Of the Rings online. and aint played it in ages.. its just the little things that turn me off in some of these games.07:41
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: diablo was nwn without any of the cool stuff07:41
Dr_willis_hitmanWilly,  hmm.. I think ya need to check the timelines. :)07:41
Dr_willis_Diablo was sort of the grandfather to NWN. so its not fair to compare them that way07:42
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: im aware diablo came out first, it was just massively boring to me07:42
Dr_willis_Pong was  Quake5 without all the blood. :)07:42
Dr_willis_Look at tetris. :)07:42
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Dr_willis_or any of the 100000+ other clasic games.07:42
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hitmanWillyDr_willis_: of course, i was in my final fantasy phase when diablo came out though...07:43
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Dr_willis_Final Fantasy 1 through.. egads.. how many did i play.. how many did i even finish. :)07:44
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Dr_willis_I sort of perfered the Breath of Fire series.07:44
hitmanWillyDr_willis_: and you can't diss on tetris, that and space invaders were the only video games i ever got my mom to play :P07:44
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Dr_willis_My wife has been playimng these 'find the hidden item' games like crazy lately07:45
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boompro  ;)07:51
boompro ,     7.04  CD     CD   jmicron  ?07:52
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hitmanWillyuhhh, what language is that?07:54
jhutchinshitmanWilly: idiot.07:54
boomprohitmanWilly,oh sorry ))07:54
boomprorussian07:54
LjL!ru07:54
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:55
jhutchinsboompro: Russian usually renders correctly here, sorry.07:55
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jhutchinsLooks a lot more like someone exploring accented characters.07:55
hitmanWillysorry, apparently my unicode settings on irssi are a little bit off :P07:55
LjLjhutchins: depends whether you're using UTF-8 or KOI-8 or something else07:55
LjLif you can see the !ru factoids, your settings are probably fine07:55
jhutchinsThe sequences still look suspicious.07:56
boompro!ru07:56
LjLbut then many russians (including (i'd say, unfortunately) the #ubuntu-ru channel) use KOI07:56
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:56
hitmanWillyLjL: you mean the ????????????????????????????? factoid?07:56
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LjLheheh07:56
jhutchinsSix accented vowels in a row as rendered here.07:56
hitmanWillyLjL: yeah, they're off...have to fix that07:56
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hitmanWillyLjL: but later07:57
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boompro!ru07:57
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:57
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jhutchins07:58
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jhutchinsrenders here as eiiooieaia with varying accents.07:59
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hitmanWillyjhutchins: yeah, same here07:59
geniihere too07:59
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jhutchinsWhereas "pycckom" doesn't make much sense to me, but I can recognize it as russian.08:00
AzzcoI've logitech microphone that I want to use, I can't find any guide for KDE. Help?08:00
hitmanWillywell, not like it'd make much difference anyway, don't speak a lick of russian, or pretty much any cyrillic language08:00
jhutchinsAzzco: Microphone should be microphone, plug it into your mic-in jack and your sound card doesn't care about the brand.08:00
hitmanWillyAzzco: usb mic?08:01
jhutchinsI went through college german, but that was before I could have kept it by practicing on the internet.08:01
Azzconope it's one of those with the normal connection08:01
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hitmanWillyheh, 2 yrs of french in HS, and some badly subbed anime, and that's about it...lol08:02
AzzcoI've got alot of tabs in kmix but I can't figure out how to get it wokring, I got sound from it before but that was just like added above the normal sound didn't seem to integrate into any apps08:02
hitmanWillyAzzco: did you unmute the mic in channel?08:03
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AzzcoNope08:03
hitmanWillyAzzco: make sure its unmuted08:03
Azzcothe mic was in the line-in before now I switched to mic.08:03
AzzcohitmanWilly: Oh sorry read wrong thought you typed "mute the mic"08:04
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hitmanWillyAzzco: it should be a bright green light in kmix08:04
AzzcohitmanWilly: How do I know when it works then?08:04
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hitmanWillyAzzco: test it out in a sound recorder app...i really never use mine, so im not sure what app would work best08:05
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csanderslong question for the room, I have a VPN set up to my work, at home im on winblows, my work box is kubuntu, is there a way I can start an X session on my win box to point to my work box ?08:07
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csandersor how can I do this, tinyvnc ?08:07
Azzco-_-08:07
hitmanWillycsanders: any vnc client should be able to do it08:07
csandersany recommendations08:08
csanderstinyvnc was slow last time i used it08:08
hitmanWillycsanders: well, if you don't need X, you could use ssh08:08
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csandersyea I need X :( . for eclipse of all things08:09
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hitmanWillycsanders: otherwise, not sure, don't use vnc myself08:09
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AzzcoOkay so I'm not sure abuot all the functions on my soundcard... I have the mic plugged in into the line-in jack... Should it be in there or the mic jack?08:09
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hitmanWillycsanders: eclipse is java, right? you could get the winblows version, im pretty sure they have one08:10
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notvdoes anyone know about using amarok with ipods?08:10
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hitmanWillyAzzco: mic, line in is set up more for amplified input08:10
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notvi cant get my files to transfer over from the transfer queue08:10
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hitmanWillynotv: probably a permission issue08:11
AzzcoThought so... I've found a guide for gnome... is IEC958 some generic kind of soundcard or something?08:12
notvbut my songs arent from itunes and i found a guide that says its possible08:12
csandershitmanWilly: yes they have , I need the code on my local machine, otherwise Id have to keep checking into and outof CVS08:12
hitmanWillyAzzco: i think its an onboard intel one08:12
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AzzcoHmm... okay08:12
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hitmanWillycsanders: ok, ugh, well, you could set up a samba share and access the files on your work machine directly via windows08:13
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hitmanWillycsanders: you said this was already set up as a VPN, right?08:13
csandersyes08:13
csandersahh thats a good idea08:13
csandersthanks :)08:14
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hitmanWillycsanders: np :)08:14
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hitmanWillynotv: when i say permission issue i mean that amarok doesn't have permission to write to the ipod08:15
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hitmanWillynotv: honestly, i don't really like amarok for ipod stuff, generally i've found that gtkpod works better08:16
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HanzZhm.. after apt-get dist-upgrade my system freezes and glxgears shows only 5 FPS, but direct rendering is ON in glxinfo08:34
HanzZhas anobody same problem?08:34
AzzcoHanzZ: did it upgrade the kernel?08:35
HanzZi have nvidia drivers08:35
HanzZno08:35
AzzcoHmm... Are you sure it's the correct version of the drivers then?08:35
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geniidist-upgrade auto upgrades the kernel if a new one is available08:35
HanzZhm.. but my last reboot was some days ago, so i can test one of the old kernels08:36
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AzzcoDo that ;)08:36
HanzZi know it :) but its updated only some libs :)08:36
HanzZok.. i will be back in minute08:36
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lnx_how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?08:38
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HanzZok08:40
AzzcoBetter?08:40
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HanzZwith "Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" it works08:40
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HanzZ2.6.20-16 it freezes after KDE start08:40
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zimba12hi08:41
AzzcoI'm clueless here...08:41
lnx_how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?08:41
HanzZand if it's not freeze, then fps is 508:41
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zimba12I'm using Kubuntu for 4 months...20 minutes ago I started it and it happened a strange thing:08:44
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Azzcozimba12: are you going to end that story? :p08:46
zimba12I was logging to kdm, it accepted the password, but it immediatly came to login08:46
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zimba12Azzco: this is the end, the sad end08:47
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zimba12I cannot log in my kubuntu and I don't know the reason08:47
AzzcoHmm... can you log in into the virtual consoles?08:47
zimba12yes08:47
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AzzcoTry to start kdm from there and check for errors?08:48
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ksivajiAzzco what is birtual console08:48
zimba12Azzco: I tried to read the X log08:48
ksivajiAzzco what is virtual console08:48
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Azzcoksivaji: you've got 6 virtual console by default you can get to them by Ctrl+Alt+F(1-6) and F7 is your workspace right now08:49
zimba12but it appears have no error08:49
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AzzcoHmm weird... you don't get any dialgbox from kde? I had a problem with dcop once08:49
ksivajiAzzco alt+ctrl+f(1-6) doesnt works08:50
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AzzcoCtrl+Alt+F1?08:51
ksivajiyes doesnt works08:51
lnx_how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?08:51
zimba12Azzco: I don't understand why it happens, I didn't change anything from the last hit boot08:51
Azzcoksivaji: that's weird...08:52
Azzcozimba12: I'm sorry I don't know :( I'm not the most hardcore linux user..08:52
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zimba12Azzco: ok, tnx08:52
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zimba12please help me, I suffer from kde-withdrawal-symptoms08:54
ksivajiis it possible to restore our password by editing /etc/passwd08:54
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Lega'ello.08:56
Hirvinenksivaji: The passwords are not saved anywhere. Only hashes of the passwords, salted with at least the username.08:56
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ksivajiHirvinen if i for get my password in that case is it possible to find that08:58
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HirvinenNo.08:58
HirvinenWell, not easy anyway.08:58
ksivajiho08:59
HirvinenYou could try a password cracking program like johntheripper, but it might take a very long time.08:59
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ksivajiok is there any good topic in linux for paper presentation09:00
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Hirvinen(Or if you remember something about your password, you could make a cracker yourself that would use that knowledge.)09:00
ksivajiHirvinen can you tell me how johntheripper will work09:01
ksivajii mean the input and output09:01
geniiksivaji: Anyhow, if you forget your password you can login to Recovery mode , edit /etc/shadow and remove the hashed password from between the two colons (::)09:01
Hirvinenksivaji: man is a friend09:01
ksivajiHirvinen ok ok09:02
Hirvinenaptitude install john09:02
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HirvinenJohn is mostly geared towards finding bad passwords using word lists, though.09:03
zimba12maybe it's a file-system error09:03
zimba12how can I force it to check the file-system in the next boot09:04
jhutchinsYou _can_ cut and paste a password hash.09:04
ksivajizimba12 fsck09:04
jhutchinszimba12: -F option on the shutdown command, shutdown -F -r now09:05
jhutchinsksivaji: The challenge is to check the root filesystem, which is mounted if you're using the system.09:05
zimba12jhutchins, tnx, I'm going to try...09:05
jhutchinszimba12: You will be happy, it works.09:05
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jhutchinszimba12: If you forget, you will be frustrated, because you will KNOW it's possible!09:06
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lnx_how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?09:06
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Aaronfc7Hello09:08
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Aaronfc7I see people joining and leaving but is anyone talking?09:09
jthomascan i install 32bit linux on an Intel Xeon QuadCore processor (5300 series)?09:09
ksivajilnx_ setting->save profile09:09
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lnx_ksivaji , doesnt work , when i start konqueror again its "webbrowser" profile again , i want that when i start konq i will in "file manager" profile09:13
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ksivajilnx_ search menus you will get09:13
NAZ87Hi guys09:14
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NAZ87Jhutchins, are you here?09:15
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geniijthomas: The stock 32 bit kernel works on the 64 bit processors as well, i have it on a Core2Duo09:17
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Sannelnx_: you can specify the profile in the command which starts konqueror, like: konqueror --profile your_profile_name09:19
khaije1anyone ever heard of bitpim? it's an app for managing cell phones?09:19
jthomasgenii i need to have a Linux server running VMWare and Win2k3 server on top of it; the Win2k3 that comes with the server we purchase will be 64bit, but the apps on the Linux (an old database) needs to be 32bit...09:19
khaije1i'm wondering where i can find a channel for it...09:19
jthomaskhaije1: anything about it on their website?09:20
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lnx_ksivaji , i didnt find it have idea ?09:20
khaije1jthomas: i wanna say no... but since i'm not totally sure i think i'd better check first!09:20
geniijthomas: You can run a 32 bit kernel inside a 64 bit OS running a vmplayer without issue09:21
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ksivajisorry kubuntu is new for me09:21
geniijthomas: Not the other way however09:21
jthomashmm ok thanks!09:21
geniijthomas: np09:22
Sannelnx_: I just looked, the correct command should be: konqueror --profile filemanagement09:22
lnx_Sanne , but i want to make some profile to be the default , i cant switch profile in konq also but this is not what i want todo . . .09:22
Sannelnx_: I only know this way to ensure konqueror loads a certain profile on startup09:22
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Sannelnx_: how do you launch konqueror? From the kmenu?09:23
lnx_err :i can switch profile ******09:23
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lnx_Sanne , yes09:24
Sannelnx_: go to this entry in the menu, right click, edit09:24
ksivajigenii ubuntu is completely free right09:24
ksivajifree of cost is it ?09:24
geniiTotally free, yes09:25
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lnx_Sanne , i know what you want to do , i dont want thhis i want to know how to choose default profile . . .09:25
lnx_someone know ?09:25
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geniiIn addition they will even ship you the install CDs at no cost as well09:26
ksivajigenii then how the programmer can make money09:26
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LjL!offtopic09:26
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:26
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geniiksivaji: They generally don't and are poor :) As LjL says we are discussing now offtopic things here however09:27
Sannelnx_: hmmm, without specifying it on the command? I don't know, sorry.09:27
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notvanyone here?09:32
ksivaji406 user are here09:33
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LjL40809:33
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ksivajiLjL 40909:33
LjLnot when i said it, no. but when you said 406, there were 40709:34
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notvi added songs to my ipod with amarok but they dont show up on the ipod, whats going on?09:34
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ksivaji:P09:35
ksivajinotv may file type09:36
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ksivajinotv copy the file which ipod can process09:37
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zimba12a weird thing...I'm using kubuntu for 4 months without any problem, but this evening I started it and a weird thing happened09:44
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ksivajizimba12 what happpned09:44
zimba12when I login to kdm09:44
zimba12it clears the screen and goes back to the login again09:45
zimba12without any message09:45
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wo0fwhere is the restricted drivers menu located in kde?09:45
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zimba12I don't understand the reason because I've not changed anything from the last hit-login09:46
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anthronautzimba12: do you use a separate home partition?09:46
zimba12anthronaut: yes09:47
wo0fwhere is the restricted drivers menu located in kde?09:47
martijn81wo0f: there is none09:47
anthronautzimba12: then it got full, kde won't start anymore unless you free some space on it09:47
martijn81it should be in the systray09:47
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anthronautzimba12: i had the same problem, it's weird.09:47
wo0fmartijn81, :S why?09:47
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martijn81wo0f: dunno, don't ask me lol09:47
zimba12anthronaut: you're my hero, you're right!09:48
martijn81wo0f: maybe it will change still, dunno09:48
anthronautzimba12: you're welcome :-)09:48
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zimba12anthronaut: too much p2p-downloading yesterday09:48
paolo_hi. i see small characters  on the screen, since two days. how can i fix that?09:48
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geniimartijn81: It runs in the tray so that when new restricted drivers are issued it can prompt you whether you wish to use them or not09:49
anthronautzimba12: the problem is, nobody'll tell you to keep some free space in the first place09:49
gary_hello can anyone help on an install09:49
zimba12anthronaut: anyway it should be nice a message in login page09:49
gary_i have sorce i have to compile from tar.gz09:49
anthronautzimba12: well...09:49
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geniimartijn81: You can also run it manually by: restricted-manager09:50
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martijn81genii: i see09:50
zimba12anthronaut: tnx again09:50
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gary_can someone help me install a few apps im green to linux09:51
gary_a lil09:51
zimba12anthronaut: I'm coming back to my shiny kubuntu...09:51
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gary_i am new to kubuntu09:51
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gary_i used to use rpms09:51
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nosrednaekimgary_: ok... what do you need to install?09:51
gary_not tar.gz09:51
gary_3d desktop09:51
anthronautzimba12: lol, glad to help09:51
geniimartijn81: kdesu restricted-manager    sorry, forgot it needs admin privelege09:52
gary_and auto installer for tars09:52
nosrednaekimgary_: tehre is no autoinstaller for tars..09:52
lnx_how i can remove "open new tab" and "close tab" bottons from konq , and konsole ?09:52
nosrednaekimgary_: and 3d desktop can be gotten via Adept..09:52
nosrednaekim!beryl09:52
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects09:52
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nosrednaekimlnx_: edit the toolbar09:52
gary_yeah it configuer it from profile and auto installs09:52
geniigary_: The file manager will usually decide to decompress tar files into whatever there is inside when you choose them from there09:52
gary_i had it on my red hat system09:53
nosrednaekimwell, i've never heard of it for Ubuntu.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist tho ;)09:53
gary_i downloaed the files there on the desktop09:53
lnx_nosrednaekim , i cant remove them fromm all kde programs "globally " ?09:53
nosrednaekimgary_: all the files for what?09:53
nosrednaekimlnx_: I don't think any other apps have those buttons..09:54
nosrednaekimlnx_: and probably not..09:54
gary_i have 3 tars on my desktop09:54
gary_whats do i do now09:54
lnx_nosrednaekim , kopete . . . konverse and other09:54
nosrednaekimgary_: e tars for what?09:54
gary_thre diffrent apps09:54
nosrednaekimlnx_: really? hmm.. well, I don't think you can... for to #kde ..09:54
nosrednaekimgary_: are you sure you can't get them from the official repositories?09:55
nosrednaekim!repositories09:55
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:55
nosrednaekim!adept09:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:55
gary_3d desktop /klmav-0/and targz. auto installer09:55
nosrednaekimgary_: all three can be installed from the repositories...09:56
judgenhmm my alsa output plugins stops working after a while..09:56
nosrednaekimgary_: upen up adept_manager09:56
judgenany ideas?09:56
gary_what is kompile soruce tar ball doo09:56
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nosrednaekimjudgen: output plugins?09:56
nosrednaekimgary_: compiles the source09:56
gary_oh ok09:56
gary_so i just point to it then right09:57
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nosrednaekimpoint to it using what?09:58
gary_kompile in kde09:58
nosrednaekimoh... IDK... i've never used it :)09:59
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gary_hmm09:59
gary_so i can use repository to install the app as long as i know what im looking for09:59
nosrednaekimyeah..10:00
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nosrednaekimeven if you don't know what you are looking for :)10:00
gary_ok i will try that thank you very much for your help10:00
nosrednaekimits much easier that way.10:01
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paolo_i have that : "the module monitor & display could not be loaded"  and small fonts on my desktop. how can i solve? thnks10:03
nosrednaekimpaolo_: are you running XGL?10:04
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paolo_nosrednaekim: no10:04
paolo_this happened after installing a wi-fi driver.10:05
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nosrednaekimah10:06
paolo_what should i do?10:07
nosrednaekimpaolo_: for the fonts problem.... thats no in the monitor section10:08
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judgennosrednaekim: yes10:12
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nosrednaekimjudgen: try going to #alsa10:13
judgennosrednaekim: i think it might be a confilict with pulseaudio10:16
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winbondis there a way to compare 2 documents with kate?10:21
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CrypTomhi all, since the upgrade to feisty, my kde changes to a square resolution (1024x1024) when I boot my laptop after having worked with an attached screen (using 1280x1024). Kdm correctly uses 1024x768, but after the login the resolution changes.10:37
CrypTomIs there a way the change this? Meaning using either 1280x1024 or 1024x768, and not 1024x102410:37
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CrypTomBecause my external screen can and should display 1280x1024, but when using the laptop undocked it can only display 1024x768. So I dont like kde the change to 1024x1024 after login10:39
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jhutchinsCrypTom: Probably easiest to use krandrtray to resize when needed.10:41
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caeli just found a bug w/ kubuntu's "PowerMac Screamer" driver (soundcard)10:42
ScorpKinghello everyone! :D10:43
caelwhen i plugin headphones to my imacs left front headphone port, no sound on headphones no sound on mac.10:43
caelplugin to right one sound comes to headphones but fails to mute the onboard speakers10:43
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CrypTomjhutchins: oh, cool, thanks, much better than having to click through the menus10:44
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caeli notice as well kubuntu is slower w/ certain pannels than other distros on this mac10:45
caellike ww/ package controllpannels (add/remove, adept manager)10:45
jhutchinscael: Might be loading more modules than other distros.10:46
caelits like actual system slowdowns10:46
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lnx_when kubuntu gusty will be released iwll be able to upgrade to it from 7.04 withou to lose all the programs and settings that i have in 7.04 ?10:50
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sethlnx_, indeed10:50
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jasmin_i am doin a program in bash for simple intrest the proble is it only multiplies but no division si=`expr $p \* $n \* $r |bc`10:51
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erich_what's a good gui program to copy .iso images of DVD's in Kubuntu?10:52
rixonk3b10:52
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erich_k3b only burns .iso images to dvd's10:53
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rixonyou sure?10:53
caelis it safe to shrink the total partition size of my kubuntu install to make this imac dualboot OSX?10:53
darkstaryeah, i was just looking at it10:53
darkstarcael: yes10:54
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lnx_seth , it will install gusty with kde 6 ?10:54
lnx_4 * ** ?10:54
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caelhow can i make it then hide from osx, last oi had tried to install to a extrenal drive, osx kept warning about an unreconised file system (as osx cant read Linux partitions/filesystems)10:55
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darkstarcael: you'll probably have to install osx first and then install linux after10:56
jhutchinslnx_: THat's not decided yet, it doesn't look like kde4 will be ready by the time gutsy's released.10:56
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caeli installed linux after because installing yaboot was a major chore10:56
jhutchinslnx_: It will be available as an option, but kde 3.5.7 will probably be the kubuntu default.10:57
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darkstarcael: i havn't used a mac since the old macontosh LC2 so i'm probably not the best person to ask10:57
jhutchinscael: Install the ext drivers for osx?10:57
lnx_jhutchins , so when kde 4 will be kubuntu default desktop ?10:57
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jhutchinslnx_: Some time after they're finished beta testing it.10:57
jhutchinslnx_: Not all of it works yet, not all kde programs are ported, there are still bugs.10:58
jhutchinslnx_: Just 'cause it's a higher number doesn't mean you want it.10:58
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lnx_yea know10:58
darkstarjhutchins: what's an easy gui program to use to create .iso images of dvd's? in ubuntu i could right click the media and do it but kubuntu doesn't give me that option10:58
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monchuhola a todos10:58
monchusoy novato10:58
lnx_jhutchins , every "higher number" is better than the previous . . .10:59
jhutchinslnx_: No.  Not always.10:59
jhutchinsDOS 4.0?10:59
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caelumm exampe thats wrong. case in point10:59
jhutchinsNot better than DOS 3.5.10:59
caelWinblows 98  / ME10:59
monchualgun espaol?10:59
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lnx_jhutchins , yea afcours not alwyas but in kde yes10:59
jhutchinsdarkstar: I just use dd if=/dev/dvd of=<file>11:00
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jhutchinslnx_: Not so far.11:00
monchutengo problemas con el GXINE11:00
jhutchinslnx_: Repositories are available and are configured for parallel install, you're welcome to help test.11:00
jhutchinses! | monchu11:00
monchugracies por t'o11:00
darkstarjhutchins: any file name will do?11:00
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jhutchinsdarkstar: Yes.11:01
jhutchinsdarkstar: Although I suggest you make it meaningful and end in .iso.11:01
jhutchinsdarkstar: some versions of k3b will also rip iso's.11:01
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darkstarjhutchins: i have the newest version of k3b11:02
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jhutchinsw/re previous thread, newer doesn't always mean more features.  the features are enabled in different releases of the same version depending on distributor - plugins and such.11:03
dnorton*problem* I can't get into password protected window's network shares11:04
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darkstarjhutchins: ah, ok11:04
neo_lu11:04
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jhutchinsdnorton: are you a member of the workgroup?11:05
jhutchinsdnorton: Do you have the correct accounts set up?11:05
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jhutchinsdnorton: REmember, you are either <network>11:06
dnortonI should be a member of the workgroup (how do I check?)11:06
jhutchinsdnorton: REmember, you are either <network>\<username> or <machine>\<username>, not just <username>.11:06
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dnortonwhen I go to enter another comp through konqueror, it throws a username and password request.11:07
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dnortonIt never goes through.11:08
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ScorpKingdnorton: it must be an existing username and password that's on the windows box11:09
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dnortonI think I'm using a username/password that is on the winbox.11:10
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lnx_jhutchins , yea afcours not alwyas but in kde yes11:10
lnx_opsss sorry11:10
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ScorpKingdnorton: it might be something on the windows box not letting you in. google for - password protect network shares in windows -  or something like that.11:15
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dnortonscorpking: I am able to get into another machine like it that does ask for user/pass.11:16
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dnortonscorpking: I have physical access to both, so I'll check for settings differences11:17
ScorpKingdnorton: then it's not linux11:17
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ScorpKingi just got disconnected. was my msg about kopete posted?11:24
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ScorpKinganyone?11:25
DSOMHmm?11:25
ScorpKinglol. then i'll ask again. :)11:25
ScorpKingkopete keeps on crashing and i can't figure out why. it used to work fine untul now. when it does work i get messages from jabber (gtalk) but when i reply it sais "Message could not be delivered. Reason "". " how can i figure out what's wrong?11:25
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FroggyTheGreatHeya.  Anyone here had experience compiling and running the cisco VPN client?11:35
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poison--<ScorpKing> llo11:40
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ScorpKinghello!11:40
poison--did u try to unistall it and reinstall?11:40
poison--i mean, kopete11:40
poison--and why do u use it for irc?11:41
poison--im luvin xChat11:41
poison--rox11:41
ScorpKingi recompiled it to work with mxit.co.za and it worked fine for about 3 weeks until these last few days. :(11:41
poison--lmao11:42
ScorpKingi'm using konversation for irc11:42
poison--programed to die11:42
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dekchi11:42
dekccan u help?11:42
poison--need xchat cause i use encrypton in a few chans11:42
poison--hi dekc11:42
poison--shoot11:42
dekci can't hear sounds11:43
dekcafter i change my pc11:43
ardchoilleScorpKing: Do you think that maybe the web server changed something and now the software can't connect? Microsoft does that now and then with MSN.11:43
poison--did u check if sound isnt muted?11:43
dekcbut kept the hard11:43
ScorpKingpoison--: lol. there is some problem with their custom ejabbert code. sends "available" instead of "show"11:43
dekcyes11:43
dekcwait11:43
poison--lol scorpio11:43
dekcit11:43
dekcworks11:43
dekcwith amarok11:43
dekcand kaffeine11:43
poison--lmao11:43
dekcbut with XMMS11:43
dekcand vlc11:43
dekcor videogames no11:43
poison--dekc, do: alsamixer11:43
poison--at console11:43
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poison--check if therenst sumtin muted11:44
ScorpKingardchoille: don't think so. it useually work for aout two hours before it starts stuffing around.11:44
poison--hi genii11:44
dekcalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device11:44
dekc???11:44
poison--hummm11:44
poison--so youre not usin alsa :D11:44
ScorpKinghelo genii :)11:44
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dekcit worked11:44
slackernlol genii i only see you sip a cup of coffee whenever i look into this channel :)11:44
poison--no need, no beer last nite11:44
dekcwith my old pc11:44
poison--but tomorrow.. omfg11:45
poison--lmao11:45
dekcand yes i'm using alsa11:45
poison--dekc, i bet u need to install some dependencies11:45
geniislackern: I do it every channel i'm in but here more, it's generally quieter11:45
poison--libsound and stuff11:45
geniiScorpKing: :)11:45
dekcalsamixer is kmix?11:45
poison--need beer today11:45
poison--damn hot11:45
poison--no dekc11:45
slackerngenii: i might have seen you elsewhere too too many channels around to be sure :)11:45
poison--diferent things11:45
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arkardHi everybody!!!!!11:46
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dekcbut i'm sure i have alsa11:46
dekccuz i selected11:46
arkardi really need an administrator11:47
geniislackern: My standard list is #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu #kubuntu-offtopic    and sometimes #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu-server #ubuntu+111:47
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dekcand how do i know if i have alsamixer or not11:47
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dekccuz apt-get doesn't find it11:48
dekc?11:48
poison--u dont have it11:48
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poison--if u did, when u type alsamixer @console it opens11:48
dekcand can i install alsamixer^?11:48
poison--its a fresh install?11:48
dekcno11:48
poison--yes11:48
dekci told u that i have an old hdd11:48
dekcand i only change the pc11:49
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poison--"pc"?11:49
dekcall new11:49
poison--like.. u changed motherboard?11:49
dekccomputer11:49
dekcyes11:49
dekcall11:49
dekcprocessor11:49
poison--almao11:49
dekcmotherboard11:49
poison--dats why buddie11:49
arkardHelp, i need an admin11:49
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poison--u need to setup all to work with the new hardware11:50
dekccuz i change the motherboard?11:50
ScorpKing!ask | arkard11:50
ubotuarkard: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:50
poison--yes, specially if u do dat11:50
dekcand how can i do that11:50
poison--the motherboard is a diferent model from the old one?11:50
dekcstrange that amarok works11:50
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know if there's something I need to do with KVPNC to make it work with a cisco VPN that has one of these random-token keys that change every minute?11:50
dekcstill asus but newer11:50
dekci think with 5.111:50
dekcbut not sure11:50
poison--diferent model11:50
arkardI want to be the representant of Kubuntu in Nicaragua, how can i do that?11:51
dekcis there any command to see my motherboard?11:51
poison--think u cant arkard11:51
arkardpoison, why not?11:51
poison--dekc, u can check the hardware11:52
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poison--cause its free11:52
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arkardpoison, i mean, be an official site and IRC of Kubuntu in Nicaragua11:52
dekchow can i reconfigure it?11:52
arkardfor example kubuntu-ni11:53
poison--but i guess u can try to contact the guys dat mantain it11:53
poison--ohhhh11:53
ScorpKingah11:53
poison--u should add a # before :D11:53
poison--lmao11:53
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dekchow can i reconfigure it?11:53
poison--damn... installing 230MB of games for my daughter11:54
arkardpoison, how can i contact those guys?11:54
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poison--lol11:54
poison--ahahahah genii11:54
poison--really dunno11:54
FroggyTheGreatAnyone have experience here with VPNC?11:54
poison--no, sorry11:54
ScorpKingpoison--: it sould be added to the bot as well to be of some use. will the channel close if he exit?11:54
poison--dekc, justa  sec11:54
arkardand tell me poison, do you know how to request a channel in freenode?11:54
dekck11:54
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poison--arkard, dunno if freenode really manages the chans11:55
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arkardreally thanks for your help poison11:55
ScorpKingarkard: just type /join kubuntu-ni and it will create a channel but you'll be the only one there.11:55
arkardill go to to find how11:56
arkardCya guys11:56
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ScorpKingbey11:56
ceg23349How do I install the GNOME library files?  Do I just dl them and save them in some "Windows/System32"-like directory?11:56
poison--dekc: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide11:56
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poison--wow11:57
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ceg23349Did I ask something dumb?11:57
FroggyTheGreatAnyone have experience here with VPNC?11:57
jon__is there a channel for virtualbox?11:57
dekcdon't load the page11:57
poison--no, its all about the other doode11:57
poison--humm11:57
poison--sec11:57
poison--dekc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting11:58
poison--hope dat one works11:58
poison--!sound11:58
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:58
poison--woot11:59
ceg23349!library11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about library - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:59
poison--goin home11:59
poison--l8r guys11:59
ceg23349!API11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:59
ceg23349!Meaning_of_life11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about meaning_of_life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:59
ceg23349damn....11:59
ScorpKing!windows | ceg2334911:59
ubotuceg23349: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents11:59
dekc!alsamixer11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:59
LjL!botabuse11:59
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:59
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Roeyhi12:00
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RoeyI have a Logitech mouse.  I'm trying to use it with KDM, but I need to be able to use xbindkeys in order to get the buttons working right.   So I put the line in my .xsession but it still doesn't work.  When I use the -v (verbose) flag for  xbindkeys -v -f .xbindkeys.rc, I see this error:  http://rafb.net/p/K8ZVeL99.html.  What does that mean!?!12:00
ceg23349ScorpKing rofl12:00
dekcwith aplay -l12:01
dekcscheda 1: default [PnP Audio Device12:01
ScorpKingceg23349: there is a big difference between linux and windows. google a bit and read those links. it will help a lot to get an idea of how linux works.12:01
ScorpKingceg23349: i'll see if i can get you a few links. :)12:01
ceg23349scorpking: Alright then, that I will certainly do... But as for a specific question, I couldn't just take a library file and drop it in some directory somewhere and call it usable?12:03
ScorpKingceg23349: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/12:03
mneptokceg23349: what are you trying to *do*?12:04
ceg23349I heard that the GNOME apps use a different set of library files (dll's in windows if I'm not mistaken... of course I probably am) than the KDE ones, and I was wondering if I could put the GNOME ones in Kubuntu in such a way as to make them work12:05
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mneptokceg23349: uhhh ... that's completely irrelevant in *Ubuntu12:06
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mneptokceg23349: what GNOME app do you want?12:06
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sourcemakerhow can I improve the performance of my kubuntu system?which services can be stopped?12:07
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ceg23349mneptok: I actually plan on doing it the other way around on another machine; trying to use Amarok on my laptop which has Ubuntu but is currently out of battery12:07
mneptoksudo apt-get install amarok12:07
mneptokdone.12:07
jhutchinsceg23349: Yes, there are seperate sets of common libraries for gonme and for kubuntu.  If you install an apt using apt/dpkg, it should install the libraries it needs.12:08
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jhutchinsceg23349: KDE does a much better job of using shared loaded libraries for more efficiency.12:08
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ceg23349I see.  Just as easy as that then.  Thanks all.12:09
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FroggyTheGreatAnyone know where in VPNC I'd go to force it to resolve an address through the VPN, rather than trying through google search automatically?12:11
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ceg23349jhutchins so... would a KDE app run noticeably slower on GNOME?12:11
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know where in VPNC I'd go to force it to resolve an address through the VPN, rather than trying through google search automatically?12:14
ceg23349wait... I think I understand what you were saying... and it just happens to not be what I thought it was when I started talking up there.  So yeah...  Gonna log and try some shit.12:14
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jhutchinsceg23349: No.12:16
jhutchinsceg23349: It might initally load a little slower, but that would presume that other Gnome apps had already loaded the required libraries, and Gnome is nowhere near as good at that.12:16
sirvicohelp12:17
sirvico/help12:17
sirvicobueno, ser que todos aqu slo hablan ingls12:17
LjL!es12:17
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:17
jhutchinsKDE as a native environment pre-loads some of the libraries.  XFCE also has an option to pre-load the main kde libs.12:17
sirvicook, cmo lo hago12:17
sirvicosoy newbie12:17
sirviconovato12:17
sirvicoen esto de linux12:18
LjLsirvico: escribe /join #ubuntu-es12:18
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sirvicogracias12:18
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LjLsirvico: y pone alguna pregunta all, ningun te podr ayudar si solo dices "help" :P12:19
ceg23349jhutchins Ah, I see.  So it would only be a minor performance hit and only in certain situations?12:20
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sirvicogracias Ljl, solo quera saber los comandos del IRC12:22
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jhutchinsRight, just like loading any new program that didn't have the required libraries pre-loaded.12:22
jhutchinsceg23349: Generally gnome apps work as well under kde as under gnome; kde apps take a bit more of a hit under gnome.12:22
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jhutchinsceg23349: recent benchmarks - and these things change constantly - show that KDE is more ram/cpu/disk I/O efficient in general.12:23
wesleyhello i get after i wanna install a tarball and it ask my pasword i typ right in and say su: Authentication failure. How can is solve this?12:24
mneptokwesley: what command are you typing?12:24
mneptokand what is this tarball?12:24
wesleykbfx12:24
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mneptok!info kbfx12:25
ubotukbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB12:25
wesleyhttp://img475.imageshack.us/img475/637/schermafdruk50gf5.jpg12:25
mneptokis there a reason you're not using the repo?12:25
wesleyyes that one is out of date and i am 64 bit user12:25
ceg23349jhutchins: I see.  Sounds enough like the PC hardware/software tech races I'm used to seeing ;)12:25
mneptokwesley: so you're going to install a version precompiled by some dude on the Internet?12:26
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LjLwell it certainly must have been made with all the due care if it's so smart as to call "su" for you12:27
mneptokheeeeeeeehe12:27
mneptokif you don't know how to diagnose an su issue, you probbaly should not be using su12:27
wesleyyes the tarball12:27
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wesleyhttp://img475.imageshack.us/img475/637/schermafdruk50gf5.jpg12:28
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geniimneptok: My thought also which you voiced so eloquently12:29
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wesleyit ask if i wanna install as root of normal user i need to say root12:29
LjLwesley: except that tarball is so stupid that it doesn't consider the fact that one might have the root account locked.12:29
LjLditch it12:29
wesleyi can succeed but its a problem i get all the time12:31
wesleyhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8866/schermafdruk51zq4.jpg12:31
LjLof course... because you can't use "su" on ubuntu12:31
LjL!sudo12:31
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:31
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wesleyi know about sudo but this one makes su from it12:32
LjLbecause it's braindead, ye12:32
LjLs12:32
LjLwhich is why i said ditch it12:32
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ceg23349Perhaps this is not so much a technical question, but is it common for there to be IRC rooms with 300+ users where only like two of them talk?12:33
LjLfind a proper ubuntu package if you can, or wait if you can't. or at the very least, compile from source from a sane tarball12:33
wesleyit with most tarbals12:33
LjLceg23349: about as much as it's common to have rooms with 1000+ users there where only about 20 most talk (#ubuntu)12:34
LjLwesley: "most tarballs" don't try to run "su" for you12:34
LjLso i don't know what tarballs you've been using12:34
LjLbut you shouldn't have12:34
ceg23349so.... the ratios stay about the same xD.12:34
wesleyi use kate for termimal most times12:35
LjLceg23349: keep in mind this channel is joined by default when you're using the irc client that comes with kubuntu12:35
ceg23349yeah... that would be how I found it :D12:35
KartiHi all, looking at learning databases and have a LAMP server up and running. Would people recommend that I use the MySQL and learn databases that way or should I go with the free Oracle download? All ideas welcome ;)12:35
wesleyi going try a root shell12:35
LjLwesley: good luck, have a good time re-installing12:36
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ceg23349karti: Sudden;y my brain hurts....12:36
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LjLKarti, not sure why you should use proprietary software when several open source alternatives are available. even assuming they're inferior... if you're *learning* they should be fine12:36
Karticeg23349: Ah one of those nights eh!12:36
LjLbut i suggest you try PostgreSQL first12:36
LjLmuch more compliant with the SQL standard12:37
wesley_sometimes there no amd6412:37
KartiLjL, its the 600 a day as an Oracle DBA that might sway me ;)12:37
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know which kde app mimics Windows's Remote Desktop Connection app?12:37
LjLwesley_: which is why most people who aren't familiar with compiling stuff install the i386 version rather than amd6412:37
geniiFroggyTheGreat: krdc12:37
FroggyTheGreatOh.12:38
FroggyTheGreatBeen trying that and ht's not been able to find the servers.  Hmm.12:38
LjLKarti, SQL is SQL is SQL. learn that first (hopefully using a free DBMS), then you can learn about the Oracle extensions later if you wish12:38
KartiLjL: Happy with that.....cheers12:38
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ScorpKingFroggyTheGreat: i seem to have the same problem with krdc. :(12:39

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