[12:40] <tekstacy> Does kubuntu keep track of temperature as good as XP? I get a bit nervous with this laptop
[12:42] <BluesKaj> tekstacy, if anything it should run cooler on kubuntu than windows from what i've heard here
[12:43] <tekstacy> Cool   :)   It does seem to use less resources, so that is some hope
[12:44] <Ch1ppy> ...no one knows how to renew a DHCP lease?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> lappys still need good air circlulation
[12:44] <tekstacy> Ch1ppy, sorry
[12:44] <Ch1ppy> :S one would think that would be pretty simple :S
[12:44] <Ch1ppy> oh well
[12:44] <BluesKaj> what do you mean dhcp lease renewal?
[12:45] <Ch1ppy> er
[12:45] <Ch1ppy> I have a DHCP address
[12:45] <Ch1ppy> and I need a new one
[12:45] <Ch1ppy> however, if I ifdown/ifup, I get the same one
[12:45] <tekstacy> type "/list" and see if you find a better place to ask.
[12:46] <dappermuis> tekstacy, my cpu fan was stuffed from all the dust that was building up inside of it - windows said absolutely nothing about it, whereas linux told me that there was a problem and went into a "slower" operating mode
[12:46] <dappermuis> Ch1ppy, just curious why you need a new ip?
[12:46] <dappermuis> oh, and i don't know how to tell it to get a new one, but you could always just hardcode it?
[12:47] <tekstacy> From what I understand, my ISP renews my DHCP lease every 24 hours, no way to change that
[12:47] <Ch1ppy> dappermuis: I'm in res @ my uni, and they throttle you if you don't have a valid DHCP lease... every day I come back from class and my DHCP lease is no longer valid, and I can't ever get a new one
[12:48] <dappermuis> Ch1ppy, i see
[12:48] <Ch1ppy> yeah
[12:48] <dappermuis> hmm, don't know how to do that :/
[12:48] <Ch1ppy> and I don't like getting throttled to 10kb/s
[12:48] <Ch1ppy> so...
[12:48] <BluesKaj> no dynamic IP addys allowed there
[12:49] <Ch1ppy> what do you mean?
[12:49] <tekstacy> You're in college, arn't you supposed to steal someone else's connection anyway?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> automatic IP change everytime you connect to the net
[12:50] <Ch1ppy> tekstacy: yes, the universities :P
[12:50] <dappermuis> Ch1ppy, as far as i understand DHCP is conifigured to get the most recently used IP if possible, which means you'r trying to get DHCP to do what it's not "meant" to do
[12:50] <Ch1ppy> BluesKaj: I have to use a DHCP IP from them
[12:50] <Ch1ppy> dappermuis: probably, but I don't really have a choice in the matter :S
[12:50] <dappermuis> which puts you in a rather touch spot
[12:50] <Ch1ppy> yeah
[12:51] <tekstacy> Smoke break.   Thanks for the help everyone
[12:51] <dappermuis> see the man for dhcp-options
[12:52] <stdin> !away > tekstacy|elsewhe
[12:53] <dappermuis> urgh, im going to bed - have class tomorrow
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Ch1ppy, I thought UBC was bit more enlightened than that...my son attended Uvic and he never had such troubles ... that's a bummer :(
[12:53] <Ch1ppy> BluesKaj: yeah, no kidding.  It's very annoying actually
[12:54] <Ch1ppy> Although they do have instructions for Debian that I just found, trying that out
[12:54] <BluesKaj> might work
[12:58] <Ch1ppy> hm, I think I may have got it
[12:59] <Ch1ppy> I had to use pump to manually refresh the address
[12:59] <kristjan_> how do I run compiz? alt-f2 'compiz --replace'?
[12:59] <Ch1ppy> kristjan_: I believe so, yes
[01:00] <ScorpKing> does anyone here know how to write .scm files for gimp?
[01:00] <shadowhywind> hay all I am going to start taking my laptop to class, And i am looking for some note taking programs *Sort of like windows onenote* I have tried basket but its features are limited. Any ideas?
[01:02] <Tm_T> I have no idea what kind of program this "onenote" is
[01:02] <shadowhywind> onenote is sort of like KDE's basket program. But it allows you to say "draw" where ever.
[01:03] <BluesKaj> heh, get an mp3 player with a mic & record functions
[01:03] <shadowhywind> would be a bad idea, prof has a very strong accent
[01:04] <BluesKaj> heh, what else is new ...yer lucky he speaks your language :)
[01:04] <shadowhywind> I have found a program (xournel) that will allow me to draw over stuff.. But it wont let me type txt in *since its made for a tablet pc*.
[01:04] <shadowhywind> blueskaj true
[01:16] <Alp`> hi there
[01:17] <CBZ32> hi
[01:17] <Alp`> i made a mistake (dont even know which one), and now i cant log in to kde. i made something in the system configuration i think, but i only remember that i changed the wallpaper for the login process
[01:17] <CBZ32> :)
[01:17] <Alp`> however, if i login and choose kde to boot, then i see that wallpaper for very short time and get back to the login screen again
[01:18] <Alp`> atm i'm in recovery mode, only with console
[01:18] <Alp`> and i have no idea where to check for errors
[01:18] <Alp`> if i go to console and startx then i only see a black screen and nothing happens
[01:18] <CBZ32> :(
[01:19] <Alp`> any ideas?
[01:20] <CBZ32> that really suck... i have no idea.. didyou try to login as root ?
[01:20] <Alp`> no
[01:20] <BluesKaj> Alp`, maybe your xorg file needs reconfiguring ..have you ever edited the xserver-xorg file ?
[01:21] <Alp`> BluesKaj: i did. my last change was replacing the mouse driver. but i tested it and it was fine. i think i didnt changed anything after that
[01:21] <Alp`> but i could try to start with a backuped one
[01:23] <Alp`> well let me try that... brb
[01:26] <Alp`> i used an older xorg.conf which is 100% ok
[01:26] <Alp`> no change
[01:26] <Alp`> what could i do now?
[01:28] <BluesKaj> Alp`, going thru and reconfiguring X ..  " dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[01:29] <Alp`> BluesKaj: what does this command? replacing my xorg.conf or more than this?
[01:29] <BluesKaj> err " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[01:30] <BluesKaj> it makes some driver changes to the graphics card and monitor if you choose to do so , just to get you back to a working X and desktop
[01:30] <Alp`> BluesKaj: ok. brb :)
[01:35] <Alp`> BluesKaj:  that didnt change anything
[01:36] <Alp`> BluesKaj: the best thing would be a log file or errorlog
[01:36] <Alp`> dunno where to find that
[01:36] <BluesKaj> exit and reboot
[01:37] <Alp`> what do you mean?
[01:37] <Alp`> if i reboot i get the same results
[01:37] <Alp`> oh restart x server... i understand
[01:38] <BluesKaj> for the xorg changes
[01:38] <Alp`> yeah sry, my fault
[01:38] <Alp`> brb
[01:42] <Alp`> the new xorg doesnt work
[01:42] <Alp`> BluesKaj: i get the same annoying problem
[01:42] <Alp`> the error should be somewhere else
[01:42] <BluesKaj> ok try this Alp` sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:43] <panotxo> hola yonkis del linux
[01:43] <Alp`> with ?
[01:44] <BluesKaj> at the prompt
[01:44] <Alp`> i meant, is the "?" right?
[01:45] <Alp`> i see this: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[01:45] <BluesKaj> oh sorry kdm or gdm depending on what desktop
[01:45] <Alp`> ah ok. its kde
[01:46] <BluesKaj> then it's kdm
[01:46] <Alp`> i try that
[01:46] <Alp`> thanks for all the help
[01:46] <BluesKaj> thank me if it works :)
[01:46] <Alp`> yeah i will :)
[01:47] <zengen_> Does anyone know if there are any linux counterparts to mIRC with Autoget?
[01:47] <BluesKaj> zengen_, you can run mirc in wine ...itworks quite well
[01:48] <stdin> yeah you can use the ugly, ugly thing known as "mIRC" in wine if you want
[01:48] <zengen_> Yeah, I've tried that.  Autoget is mess in wine, though.
[01:48] <BluesKaj> heheh
[01:48] <BluesKaj> ok, autoget is dangerous
[01:48] <BluesKaj> advise against it unless you trust the source implicitly
[01:49] <zengen_> Doesn't really matter, I can't use it :/  Was hoping there something like it for one of the linux clients.
[01:49] <CBZ32> I believe "Konversation" has auto-get
[01:50] <CBZ32> it has... just checked :)
[01:51] <betim> how do I install flash player for konqueror?
[01:52] <stdin> !flash | betim
[01:52] <ubotu> betim: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:53] <BluesKaj> adept has flashplugin-nonfree
[01:53] <zengen_> cbz32, Where is it?  I can't find anything like it in konversation.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> zengen_, dunno if it's auto-get but there's an auto-accept download option in settings/configure/dcc
[01:58] <BluesKaj> well, tvtime with wifey for a bit, BBL
[01:58] <CBZ32> c ya
[01:58] <CBZ32> :)
[02:06] <Alp`> there i am
[02:06] <Alp`> still struggling
[02:07] <Alp`> but i looked at the console with CTRL-ALT-F8 and there it says after trying to start kde:
[02:07] <Alp`> * running local boot scripts: /etc/rc.local
[02:07] <Alp`> [OK] 
[02:07] <Alp`> but nothing after that
[02:07] <Alp`> i looked into that rc.local. its only content is "exit 0"
[02:08] <Alp`> but commenting out everything didnt change anything
[02:22] <_dennister> hey channel, it's been almost a year since i worked with dapper, so i need some help with the cdrom drive...it's freezing up entire system whenever i try to mount it
[02:22] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. How can I make sure that OSS audio is working on my machine?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> switch to the OSS driver in the control center
[02:23] <AirstrikeIvanov> Cause I tried to use it in Wine and it didnt work
[02:23] <stdin> OSS won't work with ALSA and vice-versa
[02:24] <stdin> you'll also need to kill artsd
[02:24] <_dennister> stdin...hey :)
[02:24] <_dennister> long time no chat...would you be able to help me with this cdrom drive?
[02:25] <_dennister> or has everyone forgotten dapper, like me?
[02:25] <stdin> don't know, I haven't used dapper since it was releases (switched straight to feisty devel version)
[02:25] <stdin> check dmesg for messages tho
[02:26] <_dennister> yeah, so did i, but now my son's fried his video card and i've loaned him my spare...a 10-year-old pentium 2, and i'm tired of this drive freezing the system
[02:26] <_dennister> total system crash whenever i try to mount it
[02:29] <_dennister> hmmm...1st relevant (of 3) dmesg error: hdc: set_drive_speed_status: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[02:29] <_dennister> then: hdc: set_drive_speed_status: error=0xb4 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x0b }
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> turn off DMA maybe?
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> try booting with "ide=nodma"
[02:30] <_dennister> yes, will try thaat...
[02:34] <AirstrikeIvanov> stdin: oss doesn work, i killed artsd and set it as OSS and all
[02:34] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[02:34] <Doctor_Nick> >:(
[02:35] <stdin> make sure nothing's using the device, if  "echo 1 > /dev/dsp" shows nothing then it should work (you may hear a 'blip')
[02:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> stdin: it says device or resource busy
[02:36] <stdin> then something is still using it, make sure artsd is killed. you may have to close firefox too
[02:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> ah
[02:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> artsd came back up
[02:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> now it returns nothing
[02:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> gonna test my Wine game with it
[02:37] <stdin> it will if something in KDE want to make a noise...
[02:37] <nzk> Argh, why won't Liferea open!? I open it in KDE Ubuntu 7.04, and it shows the little loading thing next to the pointer, then vanishes, without a trace. Doesn't open.
[02:37] <nzk> Anyone know how to fix that?
[02:38] <_dennister> k; fully disabled dma...if i leave suddenly it hasn't been enuf and I'm frozen :)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> heh
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> any errors in dmesg?
[02:39] <_dennister> omg...it's working...lol,,,this *is* an ancient cdrom drive
[02:39] <AirstrikeIvanov> nope, still doesnt work >_<
[02:39] <AirstrikeIvanov> no sound in Wine
[02:39] <AirstrikeIvanov> id just use ALSA, but when i do the game loses input randomly
[02:40] <stdin> try asking in #winehq  they know sooo much more about wine than me :p
[02:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah
[02:40] <_dennister> ty nosrednaekim, stdin
[02:41] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my MP3 player recognized? I use Ubuntu Feisty Fawn but no one in the other channel can help me.
[02:41] <_dennister> funny tho, the dmesg errors r still there, but no crash, and i can read what's on the disk
[02:41] <cloakable> illriginal: perhaps if you used KDE :P
[02:42] <illriginal> ah man.. anyone here have knowledge of ubuntu?
[02:42] <danya>  hello can someone plz check my source list .. I think there's something wrong in it .. starting from line 40 and under ..http://pastebin.ca/704048
[02:42] <danya> I'm on feisty 64-bit
[02:42] <stdin> yharrow_dishwash: what's with the nick spam?
[02:43] <yharrow_dishwash> stdin sorry about that
[02:43] <AirstrikeIvanov> #winehq is totally nonresponsive
[02:44] <yharrow_dishwash> stdin a littel practical joke in our LoCo channel
[02:44] <stdin> danya: looks ok, but delete the automatix lines all together, so you aren't tempted to KILL your system
[02:46] <danya> stdin : line numbers plz just to make sure :) .. and I was concerned about line 40,41 and 42 .. since I'm on feisty .. why there's edgy things ?
[02:47] <estrada> gj
[02:47] <stdin> danya: remove 43 and 44  and the reasons the others are still edgy is because they aren't official so you have to do that manually
[02:48] <danya> stdin : manually .. as in changing the name edgy into feisty ?
[02:48] <stdin> yep
[02:48] <danya> stdin : thank u :D
[02:49] <_dennister> k...gonna shutdown and see if I can't butcher the non-working xp box for hardware to add to this pentium 2...will probably be back soon
[02:54] <danya> stdin : http://pastebin.ca/704064 .. I cant seem to know whats wrong
[02:56] <stdin> danya: that says that you have more than one line for http://wine.budgetdedicated.com and you need to import gpg keys
[02:56] <danya> stdin : whats import gpg keys ? .. lol sorry I'm just new to this
[02:58] <stdin> danya: you run this "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 387EE263" then "gpg --export -a 437D05B5 387EE263 | sudo apt-key add -"
[02:58] <stdin> then "sudo apt-get update"
[03:02] <danya> stdin : umm done :) .. do u mind explaining to me whatI just did ?
[03:03] <stdin> that downloads the "keys" used to sign the packages and then added them to apt's datebase of keys
[03:03] <bigleon> Question any one using laptops have a problem with fans not running? or not a solution?
[03:04] <aguitel> bigleon ,same problem
[03:04] <danya> stdin thanks :)
[03:04] <bigleon> know any solutions?
[03:04] <bigleon> damn thing is getting hot as hell
[03:04] <aguitel> not for me
[03:05] <bigleon> i got burned last night cause i fell asleep with laptop on top of my chest. XD
[03:05] <aguitel> i have sonyvaio pcg-frv35
[03:05] <aguitel> turn off
[03:09] <bigleon> anyone got idea to getting fans working in laptops?
[03:15] <danya> stdin .. I still get the same error concerning the GPG
[03:17] <stdin> danya: same error?
[03:17] <danya> stdin : yea
[03:18] <stdin> hmm, you shouldn't, at least not for the two you imported
[03:21] <danya> stdin : so what should I do :S?
[03:23] <stdin> you could just remove those sources from the sources.list I guess, or find out from their site where they keep their keys for importing (I know winehq has that info)
[03:28] <jcappello> que es lo que hacen aqui...?
[03:28] <jcappello> yo soy nuevo en ubuntu..
[03:29] <jcappello> realmente es un muy buen sistema operativo
[03:29] <jcappello> Algun latino?
[03:29] <NickPresta> !es | jcappello
[03:29] <ubotu> jcappello: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:30] <jcappello> ok. gracias ubotu
[03:36] <nzk> How do you reinstall a package with apt?
[03:38] <cloakable> apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[03:39] <nzk> Thanks.
[03:39] <cloakable> no problem
[03:40] <stdin> "apt-get --reinstall install <package>" actually
[03:40] <stdin> well, I guess it doesn't actually matter
[03:41] <beans> when will we be able to apt-get firefox 2.0.0.7 ?
[03:42] <stdin> when it's packaged maybe
[03:42] <beans> duh
[03:43] <beans> :)
[03:43] <stdin> #ubuntu-mozillateam may be a place to ask
[03:44] <bigleon> anyone know how to get fans working on laptop?
[03:45] <lewix> what's the name of that software for linux that use windows driver
[03:46] <beans> ndiswrapper
[03:46] <lewix> thank you
[03:46] <beans> that is almost all i know about it
[03:51] <jonnyro> I have a 3G apple ipod, formatted for mac, is there any way i can get it to work with kubuntu?
[03:51] <jonnyro> to where i can use it to play stuff
[03:52] <joao_> boa noite
[03:52] <joao_> alguem q fale portugues
[03:53] <stdin> !pt | joao_
[03:53] <ubotu> joao_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:53] <stdin> !ipod | jonnyro
[03:53] <ubotu> jonnyro: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:53] <joao_> ok
[03:57] <Agent_bob> i'm experancing process lockups  on one box.   anyone have insight on processes that freeze and can't be killed.   can't even reboot the process won't die.
[03:57] <Agent_bob> ???
[03:59] <akrill> ok, im having a sound issue
[04:00] <Agent_bob> there's an infonode on that...
[04:00] <Agent_bob> !sound
[04:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:01] <Hydrarrghgen> heh
[04:01] <Hydrarrghgen> "If that fails disable arts and all your problems will be solved"
[04:01] <akrill> ok lol
[04:01] <Nextract> could anybody in here help me with twinview on a laptop
[04:02] <Agent_bob> of course i have walked all the way through that trubble shooting page without it ever even touching on the sound issue i had...  so.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> Nextract: read the tutorial?
[04:02] <Nextract> ive tried
[04:02] <Nextract> i cant get 1080i from my DVI
[04:10] <killown> kyuubi: what you do with my nick?
[04:26] <Agent_bob> did the internet die ?
[04:27] <Agent_bob> the internet is dead!    long live the internet!
[04:27] <Jucato> lol
[04:27] <NickPresta> lol
[04:28] <Jucato> long live intelikey!
[04:29] <_2> would you stop that....
[04:29] <Jucato> lol :)
[04:29] <_2> :)
[04:29] <Jucato> not until I've killed every incarnation of you :)
[04:31] <fester> How do I create a desktop icon for an app not native to Kubuntu?
[04:32] <Jucato> right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application
[04:32] <Jucato> fill in the blanks
[04:33] <manji51> Heya everyone
[04:33] <manji51> This is my first time on the Kubuntu IRC. How's everyone doing?
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> good
[04:34] <fester> jucato> THANKS!!
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> manji51: welcome!
[04:38] <manji51> nosrednaekim: Hey! Thanks for the welcome :)
[04:38] <Jucato> !hi | manji51
[04:38] <ubotu> manji51: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:39] <Kr4t05> Okay, someone want to help me get samba working?
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Kubuntu server, XP client.
[04:40] <Kr4t05> I have the dir set to share via samba, but it doesn't show up in Windows when I go to Map it.
[04:48] <killermach> I have a linux centos box that I was using to as a file server with samba to windows, but now I have no windows what's the best way to make files on the centos server available to my kubuntu workstation?
[04:50] <cloakable> NFS, if you can
[04:51] <cloakable> kernel based NFS = faster than samba, and msaller x.x
[04:52] <sea_4_ever`> excuse I
[04:52] <sea_4_ever`> I need to undo delete some files
[04:52] <killermach> cloakable: ok.. that is using export right? I'll do the study time, but just want some opinions on where I should head
[04:52] <sea_4_ever`> How do I get them back? they got deleted less than 10 minutes ago, if that helps
[04:53] <cloakable> killermach: man exports
[04:53] <killermach> cool
[04:54] <Jucato> sea_4_ever`: how did you delete them? they're not in the Trash?
[04:55] <cloakable> killermach: before that, do 'apt-get install nfs-kernel-server' though :P
[04:55] <killermach> cloakable: kubuntu will be the workstation.. not the server.. do I still need that?
[04:55] <killermach> oh.. to man exports I do right
[04:56] <cloakable> killermach: Ahhh. Well, however you install nfs on centos boxes, do it :P
[04:56] <killermach> cloakable: thanks
[04:56] <sea_4_ever`> rm
[04:56] <sea_4_ever`> rm something
[04:56] <sea_4_ever`> and my whole home directory went poof
[04:57] <marx2k> ok stupid question... but where in KDE do you set the resolution of your monitor??
[04:57] <Jucato> sea_4_ever`: ouch... you can't recover anything from "rm"
[04:57] <Jucato> marx2k: System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[04:58] <Kr4t05> I could use some help with Samba
[04:58] <Kr4t05> I have a Kubuntu server, and an XP client.
[04:58] <marx2k> I dont seem to have a "Systems Settings" menu
[04:58] <jhutchins> sea_4_ever`: I presume you are using a standard ext3 filesystem
[04:58] <Kr4t05> I have the folder all set to be shared, but Windows doesn't see it when I try to mount/map it.
[04:58] <jtt> sea_4_ever`, there is a e2undel routine  google it and see if it will help
[04:58] <Jucato> marx2k: it's not a menu. it's a program
[04:58] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[04:59] <marx2k> wtf I totally dont have a System Settings level in K-Menu
[04:59] <Jucato> marx2k: it's not a sub menu
[05:00] <Jucato> marx2k: it should be under Help
[05:00] <marx2k> Its not on the top level
[05:00] <Jucato> O.o
[05:00] <marx2k> ok under help is Settings... but...
[05:00] <marx2k> no Monitor Display option
[05:00] <Jucato> ok.. Settings -> Peripherals -> Display
[05:01] <marx2k> no Display options under Peripherals
[05:01] <marx2k> hmmmm
[05:01] <marx2k> nope, not default...
[05:01] <Jucato> you could have said so earlier :P
[05:01] <Jucato> You have Control Center in the K Menu?
[05:01] <marx2k> yup
[05:02] <sfears> after i updated kubntu with automatic updates i lost my original boot mangaer and now i can't boot into windows
[05:02] <Jucato> marx2k: KControl -> Peripherals -> DIsplay
[05:02] <sfears> any idea how to easily get my boot manager back
[05:03] <marx2k> jucato: no dice... its not in there
[05:03] <sfears> boot manager is mabey the wrong way to say it
[05:03] <sfears> boot menu
[05:03] <marx2k> jucato: any idea what the actual command is that it calls?
[05:03] <Jucato> marx2k: install "kde-guidance"
[05:03] <jhutchins> sfears: the way this works is you tell us what _is_ happening, and perhaps what you would like to happen instead.
[05:04] <jhutchins> "isn't working", "doesn't happen", "does nothing" - these are useless phrases.
[05:04] <marx2k> installing kde-guidance
[05:04] <Jucato> !doesntwork
[05:04] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:04] <Jucato> jhutchins: funnier way to say it ^^^
[05:04] <Jucato> :)
[05:05] <jhutchins> Jucato: What can I say, it's late, hot, and sticky.
[05:05] <klobster> ok, I can ping google.com and www.google.com and i get a response, but if I try to load google.com in firefox or konqueror, it says "connection reset while page was loading" (firefox), and "Connection to host www.google.com is broken." (konqueror).  any ideas?
[05:06] <klobster> wget fails too (connection reset by peer).
[05:06] <marx2k> ahh there it goes... thanks jucato
[05:07] <jhutchins> klobster: 1) something is blocking port 80, 2) you have accidentally set a proxy when you shouldn't have, 3) you have not set a proxy, and you should have.
[05:07] <jhutchins> 2 is actually the most common.
[05:08] <lewix> yo
[05:08] <lewix> where can I get unzipp/cabextract/shield tools
[05:08] <klobster> it's only google.com (so far, anyway). all other sites load, no prblem including blackle.com and gmail.com
[05:09] <lewix> or what does it mean
[05:09] <lewix> unzip/cabextract/shield
[05:09] <sfears> well.. i used to have a choice between xp or kubuntu when grub loaded
[05:09] <sfears> after adapt auto update.. now i only have kubuntu options.. no xp option
[05:09] <sfears> i'd like to be able to choose which os i boot into
[05:10] <jhutchins> sfears: Generally that's configured in /boot/grub/menu.list
[05:10] <sfears> ahhh yeah
[05:10] <jhutchins> sfears: display menu/delay time.
[05:10] <klobster> jhutchins: any idea how I set a system level proxy that bans google?  where would I even check for it?
[05:10] <sfears> what's that about delay time?
[05:10] <jhutchins> klobster: Google specific.
[05:10] <jhutchins> klobster: That's a new one.
[05:11] <jhutchins> klobster: what about google.co.uk?
[05:11] <klobster> nogo.  also, only the front page of blackle and gmail seem to work
[05:12] <klobster> they must reroute to google.com
[05:12] <jhutchins> very strange.  No unusual security settings...
[05:13] <klobster> jhutchins: not that I know of; I haven't changed anything recently
[05:14] <jhutchins> klobster: oh, so to top it off, "it used to work fine"?
[05:15] <klobster> jhutchins: as in last night, when I last used the system...
[05:16] <klobster> jhutchins: I just ran adept update, but it only updated 4 qt3 packages
[05:16] <jhutchins> klobster: I'm thinking temporary networking problem with your ISP.
[05:17] <klobster> jhutchins: me too.  I have narrowed it down to this ip: 72.14.253.104
[05:18] <klobster> 64.233.187.99 works fine for me
[05:18] <jhutchins> I get google (english)
[05:18] <jhutchins> Comcast.  'nuff said.
[05:18] <manji51> I am beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how to share a directory over NFS to an Ubuntu laptop...
[05:19] <klobster> jhutchins: yeah it looks like it.  thanks for the hand holding though.  sorry i didn't follow the steps by myself
[05:20] <manji51> Ran through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[05:20] <manji51> Have it shared all RW and such.... made an NFS group on both machines just for this... installed packages... spun deosile three times... still nothing
[05:21] <ynot> is there any way to create a bootdisk to start my cdrom? i have the live cd of xubuntu, have set the bois to boot cdrom but it doesn work. I have kubuntu installed on an HP Pavilion, 600 processor, 360 mb ram. help please???
[05:23] <jhutchins> manji51, ynot:  You need to tell us what does happen, not just that soemthing doesn't work.
[05:24] <manji51> All's I get is this server is down msg when I do mount 10.0.0.101:/media/VIDEO ~/video
[05:24] <manji51> jhutchins: sorry--I'm new at this :)
[05:24] <jhutchins> manji51: then you're not sharing.  Can you mount it on localhost?
[05:24] <manji51> Ummmm
[05:24] <jhutchins> ynot: Yes, you can do that, but I'd check the md5sum of the disk first, if it won't boot it's probably a bad copy.
[05:25] <manji51> jhutchins: Yes, I can mount locally
[05:25] <jhutchins> ynot: Check the md5sum of the iso file, then check the disk itself.  there may be a utility in your burning software to check it.
[05:25] <ynot> the cdrom seems to be reading the disk, the lights are showing that and the eyetem pauses then it goes to a normal boot to Kubuntu
[05:26] <manji51> jhutchins: Maybe I need to ::thinks:: open a port 'r sommat?
[05:26] <jhutchins> manji51: When you specify a share, part of the definition is who it's shared to.  This is usually "*", which is insecure.  Try setting it up as loose, open and insecure as you can figure then work down to what runs for you.
[05:26] <manji51> jhutchins: That's how I set it up, specifically for that reason
[05:26] <jhutchins> manji51: shouldn't need to, running the nfsd should open it.
[05:26] <jhutchins> manji51: http://tldp.org should have a good nfs reference.
[05:27] <manji51> It says /media/VIDEO/ *(rw,async,all_squash)
[05:27] <dwidmann> Hmm, I've got a question, are there any major security concerns to be had with running X over SSH?
[05:27] <manji51> I dunno what all_squash means but that's what this line in /etc/exports says
[05:27] <jhutchins> manji51: Sorry, I'm trying to wrap this up and get outa here.
[05:27] <manji51> no prob :)
[05:27] <jhutchins> dwidmann: No more than the usual stuff.
[05:27] <jhutchins> I may be back, probably ~16:00GMT if nothing else.
[05:27] <dwidmann> usual stuff being? I haven't really looked into it much
[05:41] <kirk> !katapult
[05:41] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[05:41] <Doctor_Nick> !katapart
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about katapart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <marreta> boa noite a todos.
[05:45] <stdin> !br
[05:45] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:52] <megatog615> hello
[05:52] <megatog615> Is anyone else using Gutsy?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> not yet.
[05:53] <megatog615> Does Kicker work for you?
[05:53] <Jucato> yep
[05:53] <megatog615> I am aware that things break
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> waiting for the beta release. :) heh.. wondering if the 8800 nvida driver works in it also. Im in no hury
[05:53] <megatog615> But it's been broken for almost a week
[05:53] <Jucato> you could also try the guys over at #ubuntu+1 but it's working for me
[05:54] <stdin> kicker works fine here too
[05:54] <megatog615> er
[05:54] <megatog615> Maybe I've got the name wrong
[05:54] <megatog615> The taskbar
[05:54] <stdin> unless you're on about KDE4
[05:54] <megatog615> Is that Kicker?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> kicker is the whole panel I thought
[05:54] <megatog615> No, 3.5
[05:54] <megatog615> Well I have no taskbar
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> the taskbar thing is one panel applet.
[05:54] <stdin> then, yeah, kicker has never broke for em
[05:54] <megatog615> I mean the whole bar at the bottom
[05:54] <stdin> s/em/me
[05:55] <stdin> try making a new user and see if kicker works for it, if so then you know it's some personal setting and not kicker itself
[05:56] <megatog615> good idea
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> yep. thats a good test. :)
[06:00] <Black5un> ass hat
[06:00] <megatog615> seems to be working
[06:01] <Biovore> (_^_)  <-- ass hat :-P
[06:02] <samuel> alguien habla espaol
[06:02] <Biovore> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:02] <megatog615> Can someone tell me how I might fix this then?
[06:03] <samuel> gracias ubotu
[06:04] <stdin> megatog615: move/backup ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker/ then restart kicker?
[06:05] <enjoi1216> hey can someone in this room show my how to hands on clear my history out of my Konquerer and Firefox browswers
[06:05] <enjoi1216> hey kirk have you been beamed upon the enterprise yet
[06:05] <enjoi1216> ?
[06:06] <enjoi1216> hey stdin do you know how to clean the Konquerer and Firefox browsers
[06:07] <stdin> delete ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konq_history and ~/.mozilla/firefox/dmq347qr.default/history.dat should do it
[06:08] <enjoi1216> well i know that but i need to know how to do it hands on because i'm still kinda new to Kubuntu Linux
[06:08] <stdin> except replace "dmq347qr.default" with what's really there
[06:08] <enjoi1216> like how do i do it through the K Menu
[06:08] <kirk> Tools>Clear Private Data  for Firefox
[06:08] <enjoi1216> like where to go and
[06:09] <enjoi1216> sorry Kirk thats not helping me
[06:09] <kirk> i'm not understanding what you're trying to do
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> i never have understood firefox's naming of that dmq3.. whatever stuff.. i know its random.. (i think) but whats the point. :)
[06:10] <enjoi1216> like if right klik on my Firefox and Konquerer browsers and then try to go to the properties to clear the history out on the browsers i can't do that
[06:12] <enjoi1216> what i'm saying is Kirk is that you have to go to the KDE start menu and go into the system and find the browsers and in order to clear the browsing history and delete the cookies
[06:13] <kirk> no, actually from the browser if you go to Tools > Clear Private Data, it will also
[06:13] <megatog615> hey! that fixed it
[06:13] <megatog615> Thanks guys
[06:14] <enjoi1216> ok but how exactly do i do that because i need help because i'm not very Kubuntu Linux literate
[06:14] <enjoi1216> like where to go and what to klik
[06:14] <enjoi1216> like i need hands on training
[06:14] <kirk> open the browser, click Tools, then Clear Private Data
[06:16] <enjoi1216> i don't have clear private data when i klik tools
[06:17] <enjoi1216> ok Kirk that cleared my private data through Firefox
[06:17] <enjoi1216> but hwo do i clear it through Konquerer
[06:17] <enjoi1216> ?
[06:18] <enjoi1216> can someone help me
[06:18] <enjoi1216> please
[06:18] <enjoi1216> i'm having issues
[06:19] <osiris> i hate the fact i never remember this, but what is the begining line for a bash script ?
[06:19] <enjoi1216> Kirk are you there
[06:24] <enjoi1216> hey osiris do you know how to clean your browser history through Konquerer
[06:24] <enjoi1216> ?
[06:24] <osiris> not specificly
[06:25] <osiris> find the konq dir in ~/.kde
[06:25] <osiris>  ?
[06:26] <enjoi1216> hey kkathman are you there
[06:26] <kkathman> yep
[06:26] <enjoi1216> i hope i'm not bugging you at this time of the night
[06:26] <osiris> im off to work on trixbox.  sorry i couldnt help
[06:26] <enjoi1216> but could you help me solve my problem
[06:27] <kkathman> nah Im just chattin
[06:27] <enjoi1216> ok well how to i clear my browser history out through Konquerer
[06:27] <enjoi1216> and i would like to set up my sound and try to make my Linux machine to where i can burn cds and listen to music
 could you please help me with this
[06:29] <kkathman> wassup you?
[06:29] <kkathman> sound probs?
[06:29] <kkathman> clearing the browser in Konq and firefox is pretty easy
[06:29] <kkathman> firefox its under the preferences I beliece
[06:29] <enjoi1216> ok i'm needing help with problem#1 clearing out my browser history
[06:30] <kkathman> believe
[06:30] <kkathman> ok in Konq?
[06:30] <enjoi1216> prob # 2 setting up my sound card
[06:30] <enjoi1216> problem #3 getting my comp to burn cds
[06:30] <hydrogen> settings->configure konqueror
[06:30] <hydrogen> then history sidebar
[06:31] <hydrogen> then clear history
[06:32] <enjoi1216> sorry hydrogen that didn't work
[06:32] <hydrogen> what part didn't work?
[06:32] <kkathman> right
[06:32] <enjoi1216> i went in the KDE menu and then kliked system and then i looked for Konquerer and it wasn't there
[06:33] <hydrogen> no
[06:33] <hydrogen> from in konqueror
[06:33] <hydrogen> go to settings
[06:33] <hydrogen> then configure konqueror
[06:34] <enjoi1216> ok now how do i set my sound up
[06:34] <enjoi1216> ?
[06:34] <lewix> where's the trash if i delete something by mistake
[06:34] <lewix> how do i get it back
[06:35] <enjoi1216> lewix
[06:35] <hydrogen> bottom right corner
[06:35] <lewix> enjoi1216,
[06:35] <hydrogen> or go to trash:/ in konqueror
[06:35] <enjoi1216> it's on the bottom right hand corner on your taskbar
[06:35] <rrbiz> now there's ubuntu23 version of rep upgrades today
[06:36] <rrbiz> gutsy's team been working hard lately having upgrades everyday
[06:36] <enjoi1216> ok kkathman can you help me with the rest of my issues
[06:36] <kkathman> I'll try
[06:36] <kkathman> whats the next issue?
[06:36] <enjoi1216> i i need help with my soundcard setting it up
[06:36] <enjoi1216> to where i can hear sound
[06:37] <kkathman> what kind of sound card?
[06:37] <enjoi1216> i mean i could go to gigabyte and download the drivers
[06:37] <kkathman> is it your mobo on board?
[06:37] <enjoi1216> it's integrated on the motherboard
[06:37] <kkathman> ahh ok
[06:38] <kkathman> typically you just need to double click on the volume control (or kmix) and set the sound card properly
[06:38] <kkathman> be sure that PCM is up
[06:39] <enjoi1216> ok hang on let me download the driver
[06:39] <terrestre_> theres a command to know what pc are connect to me in a LAN? or to know the ip of my router thats give me internet?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> normally your router docs, or setup page tell you its ip. that would be your gateway ip.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> if your router has a dhcp server. the linux box should get all that info automaticially if set to use dhcp
[06:42] <ninjagt> wow
[06:42] <ninjagt> iim using kubuntu in a pc widout hard disc
[06:44] <naknomik> What packages do I need to pull to be able to play MP3s in Amarok?
[06:45] <kkathman> !codecs | naknomik
[06:45] <ubotu> naknomik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <Dr_willis> i belive the Kubuntu FAQ give exact package names also.
[06:46] <naknomik> I can't use free formats until iPod doesn't support them. I have a few iPods at home.
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> you can't use free formats until...  ipod DOESN'T support them?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I wont use ipods untill they sypport freeformats.. :)
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> that kinda makes no sense.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> even then.. i doubt if id use one
[06:48] <naknomik> Daisuke-Ido: I mean, until iPod supports them... oops two negations
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dr_willis: enemies make each other rich
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> apple manages to do a sumersault and still shoot itself in the foot while (!@**@&* the consumers.. and they beg for more.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Proving its all about Marketing.
[06:50] <naknomik> Are KDE 4 packages available in feisty backports now?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> never noticed. :) given how much kde4 is a work in progress.. id say stay away from them for a few more months
[06:54] <Dr_willis> But wheres the fun in that eh?
[06:55] <naknomik> I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed now, but Amarok keeps showing this dialog 'No MP3 support'. What is wrong?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> you did close out amarok and restart it? it tends to iconfy to the systemtray thing.
[06:57] <naknomik> Is it not possible to have amarok build a collection from a samba network folder?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3      *
[06:57] <Dr_willis>       To play mp3's with Amarok, install the package libxine1-ffmpeg (which will install libmad0 as well).
[06:57] <naknomik> Yes I have closed/killed amarok several times and restrted.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> naknomik,  'a samba folder' ya mean a smb://whatever type path?
[06:58] <Jucato> naknomik: perhaps because you used ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I dont think thats doable. However ya could use the smbfuse tool to have the samba share show up as a normal directory
[06:58] <Dr_willis> of course if the share is on another linux box. the sshfs stuff might be better.
[06:58] <Jucato> naknomik: all that amarok needs to play mp3's is in one package. libxine-extracodecs
[06:59] <hangthedj> Jucato, word.
[07:00] <naknomik> Why is that not doable? From the Files tab I can browse to those files and play them, but can't have them as part of collection?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> naknomik,  and whats the 'path' of them? if its like smb:// its being 'browsed' in much the say one would browse a web site. if ya play them. do they download? Give it the path and try it.
[07:01] <Jucato> Amarok can only scan locally mounted directories for its Collection
[07:01] <Dr_willis> there are 'special' paths (kioslaves i think is the better term) that let konqueror see remote placves. they dont always work as you expect.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Hence the use of sshfs, or other fusesamba tools.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> or mount the samba share somewhere manually'
[07:01] <naknomik> hummm
[07:02] <Jucato> important point: they have to be mounted
[07:02] <Dr_willis> right 'mounted' is the operative word hhere. vs. the term 'browsed'
[07:02] <Dr_willis> (i think i got that right)
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Hot Spicy Coffee...
[07:03] <om> anyone know what would be the publisher for linux?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> 'the publisher' ?
[07:04] <Jucato> something like MS Publisher?
[07:04] <Jucato> Scribus (even KWord)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I like scribus. :)
[07:04] <naknomik> is it sambafuse?
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Im tryign to rember the name of this outlibner program i saw once. ya could sort/catagorize things by  draging them to one side or another of a line. generate a relational tree...
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[07:05] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[07:05] <Dr_willis> aot-cache search smbfuse
[07:05] <Dr_willis> oops
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !smbfuse
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfuse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <KDEfanboy> anyone know how to tell udev that a device interface was manually changed so update, without rebooting?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !find smbfuse
[07:05] <KDEfanboy> network device
[07:05] <Dr_willis> or is it fusesmb
[07:05] <ubotu> Package/file smbfuse does not exist in feisty
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !find fusesmb
[07:05] <ubotu> Found: fusesmb
[07:05] <hangthedj> !smbfs
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <Dr_willis> its sshfs  and fusesmb :)
[07:05] <Dr_willis> wish the fuse guys would organize their names better
[07:06] <hangthedj> in gutsy it changed.
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !find fuse gutsy
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: fuse-utils, libfuse-dev, libfuse2, linux-image-2.6.22-11-386, linux-image-2.6.22-11-generic (and 22 others)
[07:06] <hangthedj> -t smbfs doesn't work, that was fun figuring out.
[07:06] <hangthedj> !cifs
[07:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <Dr_willis> hangthedj,  heh - i never have figured out the proper samba/fstab syntax :)
[07:07] <naknomik> aaarrgh... too much trouble. I'll mount the volumes from /etc/fstab
[07:09] <Dr_willis> i find fusesmb rather easy.. :) now that i read its docs one..
[07:09] <kkathman> brb
[07:09] <Dr_willis> It can show the whole shares 'network' in one directory
[07:10] <naknomik> Dr_willis: don't you have to install extra kernel modules etc.
[07:10] <naknomik> Why does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?
[07:10] <naknomik> I'm using IMAP
[07:11] <naknomik> Is skype available for Ubuntu?
[07:12] <Jucato> !skype
[07:12] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:12] <hangthedj> doesn't skype read your /etc dir?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> naknomik,  for fuse? ya just load the fuse module. add yoru user to a group. and you are all set.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> i wonder if gutsy auto loads the fuse module.
[07:13] <naknomik> Now to my KMail question, why does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?
[07:14] <Jucato> it always does. I think. whether pop or imap
[07:17] <naknomik> What is the application in Kubuntu to record sound from microphone?
[07:18] <Jucato> !info krec
[07:18] <ubotu> krec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[07:25] <flake> my screensaver kicks in which is fine, but how do i control when my monitor goes into sleep mode
[07:26] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi all, I have my kubuntu installed on a Dell latitude D620 laptop (intel 945 chipset) with all graphic drivers (compiz is working fine) and video codecs, yet when I try to play a video or DVD, I have sound but I see a black image in the player,, How do I fix this??
[07:26] <crazy6> is there a system settings panel for the grub boot menu? or should I edit the file manually?
[07:26] <sven_oostenbrink> crazy6, AFAIK, you have to edit it manually, but its not difficult
[07:27] <crazy6> sven_oostenbrink: yeah, I've done it for gentoo before, I was just curious, now that I'm using this nice polished interface
[07:27] <sven_oostenbrink> I imagine :) But do try apt-get (search for grub) or google.. who knows?
[07:27] <naknomik>  why does KMail show all my folders as subfolder of Inbox?
[07:28] <crazy6> ok, let's give it a try
[07:29] <hangthedj> crazy6, there is QGrubEditor, but you have to compile it and download it yourself, plus if you or a program does update-grub, now your kernels are mimiced
[07:31] <hangthedj> *mimicked
[07:31] <sven_oostenbrink> flake, IIRC, thats some hardware settinng.. try kcontrol..
[07:31] <sven_oostenbrink> Anybody on why I cant see video's or DVD?/
[07:35] <flake> ok
[07:36] <flake> thanks, it was under Monitor & Display
[07:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, turns out vga-out works on this laptop, now it's a matter of getting the tv recognized as the same resolution as the monitor
[07:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> because 640x480 is NOT a solution i like.
[07:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> (the tv's capable of 1366x768), so i thought maybe just doing 1280x768 on both, using a cloned desktop, and watching stuff that way :)
[07:56] <Jakoavain> Hi
[07:56] <Jakoavain> What could be the problem, during night the sounds are gone? The amarok wont play mp3/wma .. it opens the file and then just jumps to the end.
[07:59] <cael> i got a prob i need help with
[07:59] <cael> i got kubuntu and yaboot installed
[07:59] <cael> so os is running \
[07:59] <cael> i updated everything
[08:00] <cael> i cant play MP3s  in Amarok
[08:00] <cael> it prompted me to install support for mp3's
[08:00] <hangthedj> wow tonight is the night for amarok mp3 questions.
[08:00] <cael> i did and restarted it
[08:00] <cael> but
[08:00] <cael> still says no support for MP3s
[08:01] <cael> still promts to install support
[08:01] <cael> and... it just closes if i click install mp3 support
[08:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> cael: pop open synaptic (or adept) and install libxine-extracodecs
[08:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> they're hopefully still working on getting the codec autoinstallation working properly every time
[08:02] <Dr_willis> that 'auto isntall support' has a bug in it. :()
[08:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> see?  ^
[08:02] <Dr_willis> but the gnome program that asks.. did work for me last i tried it heh.
[08:03] <Jakoavain> Oh this sucks, the sounds are gone
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> knowing kde's default sounds, that isn't a bad thing
[08:03] <Jakoavain> It wasn't only mp3players.. I tried everything. Fuck.
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> !ohmy
[08:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:03] <cael> (i'm on kubuntu PPC)
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> o_O
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's still a ppc release?
[08:03] <cael> (iMac G3)
[08:03] <cael> yes
[08:04] <cael> Fiest Fawn 7.04
[08:04] <cael> *fiesty
[08:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> wow...
[08:04] <cael> i'm on it as we speak
[08:04] <cael> runs better than OS X
[08:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> is that one of the brightly coloured imacs? that look like a portable tv with a dvd player?
[08:05] <cael> though the installer kept crashing at partitiong
[08:05] <cael> yes
[08:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> neat :)
[08:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> i always wanted one, never got one
[08:05] <cael> i sent a bug report
[08:06] <cael> anytime on Manual mode for partitiong to edit and make a Partion on free space while it still had my OSX Partition Table
[08:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was really when apple started getting style-conscious.  i find that line of imacs and ibooks represented the pivotal point between the ugly mac of yesteryear and the smooth streamlined mac of today...  anyway, i'm off to bed :D
[08:06] <cael> (hit up the craigs list for one btw, got mine here in michigan for 50$)
[08:07] <cael> 400MHZ dvd rom drive, 512MB sd ram
[08:07] <cael> upgraded w/; 120gb hdd
[08:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> oooh
[08:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i never even thought to check craigslist
[08:07] <cael> not bad for 50$
[08:09] <Dr_willis> I  need to upgrade my imac also.. but its sitting in the closet.. where it will stay..
[08:09] <Dr_willis> since its montior is going out.
[08:09] <cael> i've seen people mod these into custom pc monitor cases
[08:10] <Dr_willis> Yea. i looked into that.. and decided it wasnt worth the effort. :)
[08:10] <Dr_willis> I use it as a backup SSh/terminal machine.
[08:11] <cael> i'm making a pc setup for OS X86
[08:11] <cael> only thing i need now is more memory
[08:11] <Dr_willis> dosent have gigabit networking.. the thing heats up like crazy, usb 1.0 i belive... so..  its just a spare. :)
[08:11] <cael> and compatable sound and eithernet card
[08:11] <cael> dr best thing w/ these
[08:11] <cael> since they have NO fans
[08:12] <cael> set it on a metal or wood table
[08:12] <Dr_willis> cael,  yea - nice of apple to 'quiet pc!' - it just over HEATS
[08:12] <cael> but remove the door covering thte memory
[08:12] <Dr_willis> when the dvd disks eject are so hot ya dont want to touch them.. apple needed to get slapped.
[08:12] <cael> DO NOT BLOCK its bottom or the table around it
[08:13] <cael> these imacs use positional vent  cooling
[08:13] <ubuntu> hey guys, I'm in the kubuntu live cd at the moment, choosing my partition - problem is that I don't know which drive is empty (I have 2 400gb drives, and one is full)
[08:13] <Dr_willis> Right now its sitting on the bottom shelf in the basement. :)
[08:14] <ubuntu> is there any way to tell what is on the partition before I use it?
[08:14] <cael> look at what one it says w/ used space in the actual partioner
[08:14] <cael> if you mount the drive yes
[08:14] <Dr_willis> mount them both look at them.
[08:15] <ubuntu> ok
[08:15] <Dr_willis> i always repartition and deleta all partitions on the disks i plan on using so they show up 'unallocated'
[08:16] <Dr_willis> Like the one i just got done cleaning out. :)
[08:16] <om> does anyone know what is the parallel init thing?
[08:16] <om> is true the linux will boot faster?
[08:16] <cael> and dr willis i keep a small cheapo deskfan pointed at where the vents for the monitor parts are and the mac stays at about 53 degrees
[08:16] <Dr_willis> om,  boot faster then what? :)
[08:16] <cael> i pefeer fast overall performance over fast boot
[08:16] <Dr_willis> linux boots decently fast now for most people. and of course when you are talking about MONTHS+ uptimes.. a 2 min boot dosent matter much.
[08:17] <cael> hell u can make any os boot fast (fresh install)
[08:17] <Dr_willis> cael,  id like to be able to put the thing in a normal pc case and use a normal monitor.. but its not worth the investment of time/money at this time. :)
[08:17] <cael> but updates+ prgorams u add= start up time  delay
[08:17] <Dr_willis> Heh - i could track down an BEOS PPC disk and put on it.
[08:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:18] <Dr_willis> bah. not worth the time.
[08:18] <Dr_willis> well its 2 am here.. night all.
[08:18] <cael> isnt the beos ppc vers incompatable w/ "NewWorld" macs?
[08:19] <om> DSL boots in 20 seconds lol
[08:19] <om> but hardly do anything
[08:19] <om> lol
[08:23] <cael> daisuke, u still up?
[08:23] <cael> libxine-extracodecs isnt showing up in available packages
[08:25] <cael> actually comes up as "Xine extra plugins"
[08:36] <gustavo> H\$@B^D^K\IIL;L$8s        HD$@F,^HIH|$(^OHT$0B<2^@^OH$HD$@B^D^H\IQ^AH9T$8v^QDH\$@^F0^D^SIQ^BH9T$8v^TDH\$@^C^G0^$HT$@B^D
[08:39] <_2> can anyone identify this error message ?     X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting.
[08:40] <_2> i'm in the process of doing what i advise other to "NOT" do.  installing ".*buntu-desktop"
[08:41] <gustavo> rm -rf /tmp/.X11-unix
[08:42] <_2> -f ???  doesn't need force.
[08:42] <_2> rm /tmp/* -r
[08:42] <ardchoille> _2: I wouldn't advise that while running kde
[08:43] <_2> if kde was running i wouldn't do that.
[08:43] <_2> well    i might.   but i wouldn't advise it to others... :)
[08:43] <_2> in fact if X was running ^
[08:45] <ardchoille> log out, go to tty1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix, log out, tty7, log in ?
[08:45] <_2> but startx yelds "X: /tmp/.X11-unix has suspicious ownership (not root:root), aborting."
[08:45] <_2> ardchoille you talking to me ???
[08:45] <ardchoille> s|sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix|sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, sudo rm -r /tmp/.X11-unix
[08:46] <cael> grrr >_< trying to access my whole shared drives on my windows pc in the network, that pc has no login password but its asking me for one on this machine(kubuntu ppc mac)
[08:46] <ardchoille> _2: Just thinking out loud
[08:47] <_2> yeilds ^
[08:47] <cael> i have NO prob accessing actual folders but when i try to view the root ofthe drive i'm askedfor authentication
[08:47] <_2> ie   what ever.
[08:49] <_2> Cael_PPCkubuntu sounds like a windows issue to me...
[08:49] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> not a prob w/ OSX or another winblows pc
[08:50] <_2> hmmm i think i'm lagging....   -:- CTCP PING reply from _2: 46.154 seconds
[08:53] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> ok there we go odd at first kept showing " smb://cael@firewing-8781a3/D$"  now it just shows for drive root,  "smb://cael@firewing-8781a3/D"
[08:53] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> (firewing-8781a3 being the winblow pc network name)
[08:56] <_2> !wine
[08:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:59] <_2> reminds me,   i have a program writen for windows 3.x  i bet wine will run it...
[09:02] <lewix> how do I connect/disconnet manually of the LAN
[09:02] <_2> lewix ifconfig    or  ifup/ifdown
[09:03] <_2> lewix    ifconfig eth0 down        ifdown eth0
[09:03] <_2> prolly need sudo
[09:04] <_2> connecting might want a static ip also...   sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.47 up
[09:05] <lewix> if I  dont have the static ip in mind?
[09:05] <lewix> can it find it automatically?
[09:05] <_2> then don't specify an ip
[09:05] <lewix> ok
[09:06] <lewix> do I need dhcclient
[09:06] <_2> lewix normally if you use dhcp  you'll want to use   ifup    and   ifdown
[09:07] <_2> and that's just about the extent of my networking skills.
[09:08] <lewix> i mean should i use it right after using ifconfig eth0 up
[09:09] <_2> i really don't kown.   i use all static ip's .     most use "knetworkmanager"
[09:09] <_2> errr most in here do.
[09:09] <gustavo> dhclient
[09:10] <lewix> what's the differene btw dhclient, ifconfig up, dhcpcd
[09:10] <gustavo> u can use just "sudo idown -a" and "sudo ifup -a"
[09:11] <_2> i'm thinking ifup will call dhclient for you.     also talking through my hat.   so i'll hush.
[09:11] <gustavo> _2: yes... it does
[09:11] <_2> gustavo ifdown   yeah.  that.
[09:11] <lewix> what's the differene btw dhclient, ifconfig up, dhcpcd, ifup -a
[09:12] <gustavo> dhclient, calls dhcp and updates ur interface ip address
[09:12] <gustavo> ifconfig up turns ur interface active
[09:12] <gustavo> ifup -a turns all interfaces active (like ifconfig up)
[09:13] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> _2 anyway to access a shared folder on the networrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrk outside the current connections subnet( Network's setup Basement: cablemodem -----> upstairs Router----> bedroom Router
[09:13] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> *the network
[09:13] <_2> ifup/down calls both ifconfig and dhclient     methinks
[09:13] <_2> i'll have to look into that.
[09:13] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> this mavc is on bedroom's router, but one one pc w/ my game/anime music i wanna access is on the "upstair's router"
[09:14] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> *mac
[09:15] <_2> ah merging two networks...   that's fun.
[09:15] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> 7pcs in house each router only 4 ports >_<
[09:15] <_2> yes there is. and it's not hard to do.  but i'm not the guy to ask.
[09:15] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> and no USB network adapter on the mac
[09:16] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> err wifi network
[09:17] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> i've tried to give the pcs on the "upstair's router" static ips in it but
[09:17] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> 1: its a D-Link router
[09:17] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> 2: each time they are setup w/ one they can communicate w/ other pcs but no internet
[09:19] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> and what i dont get any pc connected to teh dlink router can view the setup page for the 2nd router (Linksys) but any pc on the linksys router cant view setup page for the D-Link
[09:19] <lewix> ok I just learnt it. _2 dhclient is the script and ifconfigup is the script that just run it. dhcpcd maintain your ip
[09:19] <_2> you need a "default gateway" added to the routing table   then both networks can find the inet
[09:20] <_2> Cael_PPCkubuntu something like "sudo route add default gw <gw-addr> "   interpreting the <gw-addr>
[09:21] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> (to be exact  the systems on the entire network "D-Link": Winblows PC "Movies PC", Winblows "Pictures" 3rd is a Playstation 2, 4th line runs to the Linksys and on teh linksys is this imca, brother's PC , mother sPC and 2 more pcs acting as File servers
[09:21] <_2> you can set that up in /etc/network/interfaces   and you wont have to add it.
[09:22] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> ok (i'm still verry noobish to Linux OS's
[09:22] <Cael_PPCkubuntu> hell took me awhile to get used to teh mac's OS X
[09:23] <_2> i'm still network illiterate too.   so i'll defer to anyone that has dias
[09:27] <niels_> ubotu: !adept
[09:27] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:27] <niels_> ubotu: !adeptfix
[09:27] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:56] <sander_> I'm looking for a tool to record videos from my desktop (3d apps running).. any suggestions?
[09:58] <ardchoille> sander_: istanbul  ?
[09:59] <sander_> yeah I saw that one.. but that requires almost all of the whole gnome libs
[09:59] <ardchoille> sander_: Oh, really? I didn't know that.. I'll have to stop recommending it
[10:00] <masterylab> hi
[10:00] <sander_> quite a list :)
[10:01] <sahin_h> sander_: reKordmydesktop?
[10:01] <sander_> didn't found that one yet...
[10:01] <sander_> lemme check
[10:01] <sahin_h> sander_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760
[10:01] <ardchoille> sahin_h: I think that's a gtk app
[10:02] <ardchoille> sander_:  apt-cache search mydesktop
[10:02] <Jucato> !info screenkast
[10:02] <lewix> how can I make my screensaver change automatically
[10:02] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:02] <Jucato> hm..
[10:02] <sahin_h> ReKordmydesktop is a frontend to recordmydesktop aiming at the ease of use.
[10:03] <ardchoille> !info byzanz
[10:03] <ubotu> byzanz: Small screencast creator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-3 (feisty), package size 78 kB, installed size 408 kB
[10:03] <Jucato> unfortunately, screenkast and krecordmydesktop are only in Gutsy...  you'll have to get it from kde-apps for now
[10:03] <sander_> I have gutsy installed :)
[10:04] <ardchoille> Jucato: Yeah, but Gutsy is just around the corner :)
[10:04] <Jucato> :)
[10:04] <Jucato> sander_: then you're in luck
[10:05] <sander_> Jucato: I prefer to call it skill ;)
[10:05] <ardchoille> Man, Baghira rocks!
[10:05] <Jucato> heh
[10:05] <Jucato> (ew?)
[10:06] <Jucato> oh well... since there are no other better alternatives :)
[10:06] <sander_> that skin / theme?
[10:07] <sahin_h> ardchoille: Yes baghira is so cool, however play badly with firefox for me.
[10:07] <UselessID> does someone wants to play nexuiz?
[10:07] <sahin_h> firefox the only non qt apps what I use...
[10:07] <runlevelten> I'd love to but I think colleagues might notice, heh.
[10:08] <flaccid> UselessID: this is kubuntu support channel
[10:10] <ardchoille> sander_: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8461/osxkdegp9.jpg
[10:11] <UselessID> flaccid: dont be an ass
[10:11] <sander_> ardchoille: looks nice.. but is this theme easy to install?
[10:11] <sander_> and what about the dock?
[10:11] <ardchoille> sander_: You can instal Baghira with "sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira"  and the dock is just kicker with the options tweaked a bit
[10:12] <ardchoille> !info baghira
[10:12] <ubotu> Package baghira does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:12] <sander_> :)
[10:12] <ardchoille> !info kwin-baghira
[10:12] <ubotu> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (feisty), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB
[10:12] <sander_> k.. this is a window manager replacement ?
[10:12] <sander_> like compiz?
[10:13] <emilsedgh> !info kxdocker | sander_
[10:13] <ubotu> sander_: kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[10:13] <ardchoille> No, it is a style and theme for kde, it doesn't replace anything
[10:14] <wers> is it possible for the kicker to be transparent whenever the mouse isn't over it and have a background image only when the mouse hovers on it? I think it would be really great but I am not sure if it is feasible
[10:15] <ardchoille> wers: I've never seen a feature like that for kicker
[10:15] <Jucato> nope
[10:16] <wers> yeah.. i just think that it would be very good for usability
[10:16] <niels_> ubotu: !adeptfix
[10:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:16] <Jucato> usability speaking, that would be terrible imho... :P
[10:17] <ardchoille> Yeah, I don't see how that would enhance usability
[10:17] <sander_> kxdocker isn't in gutsy yet?
[10:17] <NiceGuyUK> anyone know how I can get mailto: links in firefox to work with kontact?
[10:18] <wers> I'm thinking of something like mac's dock..it gets larger whenever the mouse is on it. that way, you will tend to give more attention to the dock. I am thinking of what I can do for the kicker
[10:18] <Jucato> !info kxdocker gutsy
[10:18] <ubotu> Package kxdocker does not exist in gutsy
[10:19] <Jucato> oh yeah, it's unmaintained I think
[10:19] <Jucato> wers: there are mac dock clones...
[10:19] <Jucato> kiba-dock (non-KDE), ksmoothdock, kooldock, kxdocker
[10:19] <wers> yeah.. but I still prefer kicker because of integration issues
[10:20] <Jucato> can't catch'em all
[10:20] <Jucato> wer.. win 'em all
[10:20] <flaccid> we need min 128px icons
[10:20] <wers> yeah...
[10:20] <wers> i guess
[10:20] <Jucato> wers: you could also make one if you really want to :)
[10:20] <Jucato> although I don't think the transparent -> opaque is good for usability. the parabolic zooming might be
[10:21] <wers> uhmmm.. I'm not leet enough Jucato
[10:21] <wers> maybe, after 5 years?
[10:21] <Jucato> too modest hahah
[10:21] <wers> haaha
[10:21] <wers> I'm a newb
[10:21] <emilsedgh> kooldock is a fork of ksmoothdock, AFAIK, they should be simmiliar
[10:22] <wers> when it comes to docks, I think, awn is the best
[10:22] <flaccid> !info awn
[10:22] <ubotu> Package awn does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:23] <waylandbill> wers: gotta start somewhere. grab a book on C and get off and running. :)
[10:23] <Jucato> (or C++ if you're more into KDE :P)
[10:23] <wers> hahaha.. waylandbill, maybe, I'll try that after I finish my two courses. aint got enough time
[10:23] <flaccid> Jucato i start my windows based job tomorrow haha
[10:24] <Jucato> flaccid: Avant Window Navigator, I think. hosted in Launchpad
[10:24] <waylandbill> Jucato: or c++ after c.
[10:24] <Jucato> why not C++ straight?
[10:24] <Jucato> bah offtopic!!
[10:24] <Jucato> NiceGuyUK: I think there are. try asking in #qt
[10:24] <NiceGuyUK> kthx
[10:24] <Jucato> Qyoto I think.. not sure...
[10:24] <flaccid> yeah i don't go in that chan
[10:25] <flaccid> c++ is also off topic
[10:25] <NiceGuyUK> emilsedgh: except I can;t figure out how to add newly installed apps to Katapult
[10:26] <sander_> baghira is not the whole package... now I need to look for icons and such
[10:26] <Jucato> NiceGuyUK: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, Click OK immediately. it "refreshes" katapult
[10:26] <wers> have you tried launchy in windows and quicksilver for mac? how come katapult isn't as good as those two projects yet?
[10:26] <Jucato> wers: because they're different projects? made by different people?
[10:27] <NiceGuyUK> sander_: look for OS-L icons by Gupetto (Google it)
[10:27] <Jucato> not to mention one is proprietary
[10:27] <wers> Jucato: ohhh... so that's why you told me to click ok immediately in the katapults configuration window yesterday.. i did not get the point that time
[10:27] <Jucato> :P
[10:31] <ardchoille> Jucato: You're cool.. you always make me laugh.
[10:31] <Jucato> O.o
[10:32] <ardchoille> [01:25]  * Jucato doesn't hate docks. but last time he tried to use one, he felt dizzy
[10:32] <Jucato> ah yeah hehe :)
[10:32] <Jucato> but that was true... I really felt dizzy after using it for a while...
[10:32] <Jucato> it was nice and all... but somehow all that dancing around...
[10:33] <sander_> !info ogre3d
[10:33] <ubotu> Package ogre3d does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:34] <ardchoille> !find ogre3
[10:34] <sander_> !info ogre
[10:34] <ubotu> Package/file ogre3 does not exist in feisty
[10:34] <ubotu> Package ogre does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:34] <ardchoille> :(
[10:34] <wers> guys, do you hide your kickers?
[10:34] <Jucato> !Info libogre14
[10:34] <ubotu> Package libogre14 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:35] <Jucato> oops. gutsy...
[10:35] <Jucato> !Info libogre14 gutsy
[10:35] <ubotu> libogre14: Object-oriented Graphics Rendering Engine (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2412 kB, installed size 6444 kB
[10:35] <freeman> 
[10:35] <Jucato> sander_: easier to search using apt:/ in Konqueror or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <Jucato> !Info libogre6
[10:36] <ubotu> libogre6: Object-oriented Graphics Rendering Engine (libraries). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.5-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2181 kB, installed size 5668 kB
[10:37] <freeman> 
[10:37] <ardchoille> kxdocker won't even load, it's shows errors and exits.
[10:42] <NiceGuyUK> ardchoille: the ubuntu built one is known to be broken.  Compile latest from source if you feel brave, but the dependencies caused me to give up and use Kooldock instead
[10:44] <ardchoille> NiceGuyUK: Not really worth compiling to me.. not that important. I'll try kooldock
[10:44] <ardchoille> NiceGuyUK: Thanks for the info :)
[10:45] <NiceGuyUK> anyone know how I can get mailto: links in firefox to work with kontact?  I click on them but it steadfastly ignores me
[10:45] <NiceGuyUK> ardchoille: no probs, I had to remind myself which one I'd tried last week before replying to you :)
[10:45] <flaccid> it would be nice if firefox worked for opening downloads completed from the downloads as well
[10:46] <emilsedgh> NickPresta: I think that could be configured via about:config
[10:46] <kgarrod> Hi All, I have somehow managed to get the Nginx package half-installed, now I can't remove it. I've tried dpkg --remove but it gives me errors when stopping and starting nginx. How can I get rid of it?
[10:47] <ardchoille> NiceGuyUK: kxdocker is dead anyway, the dev discontinued it and is working on XQCD
[10:48] <llutz> NiceGuyUK: set "network.protocol-handler.app.mailto" in firefox to kmail
[10:50] <NiceGuyUK> llutz: thanks, will try that
[10:50] <NiceGuyUK> key doesn't exist by default, annoyingly, so having to add it
[10:51] <llutz> NiceGuyUK: create a "user.js" in your profile-dir and add: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.mailto", "kmail");
[10:52] <NiceGuyUK> nice trick...will have to look up this "user.js" info for more cool ones :)
[10:53] <flaccid> how to fix the download open thing?
[10:59] <ardchoille> NiceGuyUK: kooldock is pretty nice :)
[11:10] <maverick> anyone knows how to add new fonts in kubuntu??
[11:13] <ardchoille> maverick: I just put them in ~/.fonts
[11:13] <kgarrod> maverick: system settings -> appearance => font installer
[11:13] <trpr> wow. that process is certainly much simpler than it was
[11:15] <maverick> another question, shouldn't ctrl+alt+F12  restart X
[11:15] <maverick> ??
[11:15] <emilsedgh> maverick: thats alt+ctrl+backspace :)
[11:15] <maverick> right :D
[11:16] <maverick> then what does the above combination do?
[11:16] <emilsedgh> nothing i think...
[11:16] <maverick> well it does flicker to blak screen with typing cursor flickering
[11:16] <maverick> nywayz thanks
[11:27] <koshari> can anyone tell me how to add a desktop link to logout/shut down ect?
[11:28] <Jucato> koshari: you can either just right-click on the desktop -> logout, or you can add an applet to the panel. not sure if you can add an icon to the desktop
[11:29] <koshari> thanks jucato but iam setting a user up that will have no panel and no right click. it will be a limited account with just amarok runninr
[11:30] <koshari> come to think of it with amarok maximised and no panel to minimise to i wont be able to access it!
[11:30] <Jucato> heh
[11:40] <ubuntu_> hmm, having  some major issues getting kubuntu to work :/
[11:40] <flaccid> specifically?
[11:41] <Randy> I just installed from the live cd, and when I boot up and grub loads, it says Error 17
[11:41] <flaccid> did you google that?
[11:41] <Randy> yeah, I have been
[11:41] <flaccid> what does error 17 meanb
[11:41] <Randy> haven't found a solution yet
[11:42] <rixxon> Hi - For some reason when I connect a network via knetworkmanager, firehol is started (an iptables configurator) which per-se seems broken and adds bad rules, which blocks all connections.
[11:42] <flaccid> maybe remove firehol?
[11:42] <Randy> cannont mount selected partition
[11:43] <rixxon> I'm using the standard firehol configuration which should block all incoming requests but allow all client trafic
[11:43] <rixxon> it worked at first, then it broke for no apparent reason
[11:44] <rixxon> flaccid: actually, when I think about it, I doubt it starts *firehol*. it probably does iptables-restore on some file hidden deep in somewhere :/
[11:45] <flaccid> Randy: google has many solutions, have you tried any?
[11:46] <flaccid> Randy: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=grub+error+17&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[11:47] <flaccid> brb.
[11:48] <wers> if my home partition is full, will that affect my system's speed or does speed depend solely on the processes and ram usage?
[11:53] <Jucato> wers: if youre home partition is full, you won't be able to login to your user
[11:54] <wers> ohh.. right now, 94% of my home partition is used :D
[11:54] <Jucato> start worrying when it gets above 95% :P
[11:55] <wers> tsk tsk. got to buy an external hd
[11:55] <Jucato> or burn :)
[11:55] <wers> yeahh
[12:03] <jeffer> Hey i have downloded windowmaker and can add a dock, but how do i add apps to it ?
[12:07] <WoahWoah> Hey guys
[12:07] <WoahWoah> I'm pretty new to Kubuntu and so far think it's great!
[12:07] <WoahWoah> does anyone have any good online tutorials they'd recommend?
[12:09] <Jucato> WoahWoah: Welcome to Kubuntu! Kubuntu comes with an offline documentation. you could start with that.
[12:10] <Jucato> unless you're looking for something specific?
[12:10] <WoahWoah> Thank you
[12:10] <WoahWoah> Not really Jucato
[12:10] <WoahWoah> Perhaps stuff with the shell
[12:10] <WoahWoah> any other applications I could install?
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> !bash
[12:10] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:10] <Jucato> !commandline
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commandline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <Jucato> hehe :)
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> !adept | WoahWoah
[12:10] <ubotu> WoahWoah: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> WoahWoah: take a look at Adept. Lots of apps there.
[12:11] <Jucato> WoahWoah: you can browse through the many, many packages available in our repositories using Adept Manager (K Menu -> System) or Add/Remove Programs
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> thousands of 'em
[12:11] <WoahWoah> Ok ty
[12:11] <jeffer> does anyone here dock apps ?
[12:11] <Jucato> WoahWoah: you can also find community documentation in https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> WoahWoah: and bear in mind the following:
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> !universe
[12:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:12] <WoahWoah> Yeah, think I've been to that before :p
[12:12] <Jucato> of course if he's on Feisty, all repos (except backports) are enabled already
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> (in short, you can add lots more apps to Adept by clicking a few buttons)
[12:12] <WoahWoah> If, for instance I wanted to install networks tools, how would I go about it?
[12:12] <boska> yyy
[12:12] <Jucato> jeffer: what do you mean by "dock apps"?
[12:12] <SlimeyPete> WoahWoah: search Adept for them.
[12:13] <WoahWoah> Ok, thanks!
[12:13] <SlimeyPete> then tick them off and hit Apply
[12:13] <jeffer> jucato, have apps on the dock.i can get the dock but cant add apps to it
[12:13] <Jucato> Add/Remove (Adept Installer) is the one with ticks/checkboxes. Adept Manager doesnt
[12:13] <Jucato> jeffer: um.. you can add apps to the KDE panel without having to use WindowMaker
[12:14] <WoahWoah> And I go on the assumption these files don't have malicious code in them?
[12:14] <jeffer> jucato, Yeah for my reason mine wont, maybe im missing some kind of plugin...
[12:14] <jeffer> some*
[12:14] <Jucato> jeffer: I'm talking about the normal KDE panel. not a Dock Application Bar
[12:15] <SlimeyPete> WoahWoah: yes
[12:15] <SlimeyPete> they should be fine
[12:15] <WoahWoah> Ok
[12:15] <jeffer> jucato, Oh nah not the normal panel :P
[12:15] <Jucato> jeffer: any reason why you have to use the Dock Application Bar?
[12:16] <jeffer> jucato, nah not really just thought it looks nice
[12:16] <Jucato> how does it look nice?
[12:16] <Jucato> jeffer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kicker/dock-application-bar-extension.html
[12:16] <Jucato> seems like you don't manually add apps to the dock
[12:16] <WoahWoah> So if I want to install and open something, how do I go about it? I clicked the install, not sure if anything happened
[12:17] <jeffer> Ah yea thanks :)
[12:17] <Jucato> WoahWoah: in Adept Manager? you have to click Apply Changes
[12:18] <jeffer> Jucato, mmm just realised i wasnt thinking of a dock bar app, actually a normal panel would just do fine, sorry
[12:19] <Jucato> jeffer: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/quickstart/launching-applications.html#id2482147
[12:19] <Jucato> you can just drag & drop apps from the K Menu to the panel for quick access, if that's what you were thinking of
[12:19] <jeffer> yea thats wat i meant, sorry for confusion
[12:19] <Jucato> :)
[12:20] <_freedom_>  hi there! Does anyone know how to fix Suspend to ram with nvidia graphics card. My system goes suspend but on wake screen stays black because graphics card wont come back from suspend. So I am in GUI, system goes to suspend, but when it goes back graphics card don't.
[12:21] <WoahWoah> Ok
[12:21] <WoahWoah> says "another process is using the packaging system database" therefore I don't think it will allow installs etc
[12:21] <WoahWoah> Am going to try closing IRC
[12:21] <WoahWoah> Thanks!
[12:22] <Jucato> er no
[12:22] <Jucato> IRC doesn't do anything to affect that
[01:05] <vanni> hi does someone knows wich is the italian channel for ubuntu support?
[01:05] <SlimeyPete> !italian
[01:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:05] <wers> when is gutsy beta going to be released?
[01:05] <vanni> thanks
[01:05] <Jucato> wers: next week
[01:06] <wers> yes!
[01:06] <wers> Im'ma install it
[01:06] <wers> I hope raki works in gutsy
[01:06] <Jucato> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[01:06] <Jucato> last time I used Raki, it worked in Dapper...
[01:07] <Jucato> or was it breezy? can't recall
[01:07] <wers> yeah.. it works up to edgy
[01:09] <vanni> hi i installed wine and after i installed my winzoz app.
[01:09] <vanni> the problem is
[01:09] <vanni> when i have to choose the network interface on my winzoz software
[01:10] <vanni> i can not see the network card
[01:10] <vanni> what can i do??
[01:11] <vanni> can someone help me?
[01:12] <Jucato> vanni: might want to try in #winehq since it's a wine issue
[01:14] <wers> !dock
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <fatmike> hi
[01:15] <zipper> Will KDE4 be in the next stable release of kubuntu?
[01:15] <fatmike> i have a problem with qt 4.3
[01:15] <Jucato> zipper:  no
[01:15] <fatmike> in 4.2.3 my app runs without probs
[01:15] <fatmike> but compiled on qt 4.3 i get segmentation faults
[01:15] <zipper> Jucato, ok
[01:15] <zipper> thanks
[01:15] <fatmike> what could be the error?
[01:16] <Jucato> fatmike: might want to ask in #qt
[01:16] <fatmike> ah ok thnx
[01:16] <fatmike> on this server?
[01:16] <Jucato> yep
[01:16] <fatmike> thnx
[01:18] <evri2> The capacity of my hardrive is wrong in my sysinfo.The missing capacity is NTFS.Anyone know this problem?
[01:19] <evri2> i mean this
[01:19] <evri2> Sysinfo for 'pwnerer': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52 at 800 MHz (1608 bogomips), HD: 20/27GB, RAM: 985/1010MB, VGA: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7200 (rev a1), Audio:  nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2), 129 proc's, 14.51h up
[01:20] <Jucato> evri2: you could try asking the #konversation guys, since it's a script
[01:23] <kaminski> hullu
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> hi
[01:24] <kaminski> hi pete
[01:25] <kaminski> what kind of channel is this ?
[01:26] <Lynoure> kaminski: Kubuntu support channel
[01:27] <kaminski> english only ?
[01:28] <Lynoure> kaminski: there is #ubuntu-fi too (guessing from 'hullu')
[01:28] <kaminski> no no
[01:28] <kaminski> actually my native tongue is german
[01:29] <kaminski> but english is fine too
[01:31] <kaminski> really ?
[01:31] <z1pp3r> yes kaminski, i believe this channel is english only
[01:31] <kaminski> didnt know
[01:31] <z1pp3r> but i know there is a german support channel as well if you want
[01:31] <z1pp3r> !german
[01:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:31] <kaminski> actually i just try out bitchx and irc in general
[01:32] <Doctor_Nick> hey doods
[01:33] <kaminski> what do you use as a client ?
[01:35] <The-Compiler> kaminski: As an IRC-client?
[01:35] <kaminski> yep
[01:35] <The-Compiler> Konversion, but I like xchat, too
[01:36] <The-Compiler> *Konversation
[01:36] <berkes> Konversation, but I like kopete too.
[01:36] <kaminski> is it better than bitchx (i mean konversation) ?
[01:37] <z1pp3r> kaminski, personally i like to keep my IM client seperate from my irc client, but i really like xchat for irc
[01:38] <z1pp3r> a friend of mine made a very minimalistic irc client called "LostIRC" which is pretty good also, but it has quite a steep learning curve
[01:38] <z1pp3r> Hi Doctor_Nick !
[01:39] <emilsedgh> commandline people always like irssi, but Kopete is good...
[01:39] <kaminski> im more in the mood for fancy guis right now
[01:39] <kaminski> i think i will try out xchat too
[01:43] <z1pp3r> kaminski, i know there is a lot of different themes out there for xchat (i think they're on kde-look.org), but i havent played around with it much
[01:46] <kaminski> i will give it a shot
[01:48] <kaminski> hey xchat is great
[01:49] <kaminski> thx and bye
[02:17] <hcbox_> hi ppl
[02:17] <__osh__> Hi. Is there a linux program for stock analysis somewhere? Something akin to metastock or similar.
[02:17] <hcbox_> dunno
[02:18] <Mr_Sonoma> __osh__, beancounter - A stock portfolio performance monitoring tool
[02:18] <Mr_Sonoma> something like that?
[02:19] <Jucato> !info qtstalker
[02:19] <__osh__> Mr_Sonoma: Beancounter? Heh. Cute name. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip.
[02:19] <ubotu> qtstalker: commodity and stock market charting and technical analysis. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.32-3ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1416 kB, installed size 4248 kB
[02:19] <Mr_Sonoma> __osh__, i just ran apt-cache search stock
[02:19] <__osh__> Ah, and qtstalker too. Thanks for that too Jucato.
[02:19] <Jucato> search through adept/apt-cache is nice :)
[02:20] <Jucato> Mr_Sonoma: funny, I did that too :)
[02:20] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[02:20] <lafuma> hey
[02:20] <Mr_Sonoma> i like apt through the command line for most things, faster than the gui
[02:21] <lafuma> who uses ubuntu server edition ?
[02:21] <lafuma> or is there a channel for those users ?
[02:21] <Jucato> specially if you have Yakuake.... much faster than launching adept...
[02:21] <__osh__> lafuma: add a k and I do. Don't think there's any difference.
[02:21] <Jucato> I think he means the server edition
[02:21] <Jucato> !server
[02:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[02:21] <Mr_Sonoma> !server
[02:21] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[02:22] <Jucato> :P
[02:22] <lafuma> hmm
[02:22] <lafuma> thanks
[02:22] <__osh__> There's no diff between kubuntu server and ubuntu server afaik. Am I right?
[02:22] <__osh__> Just the cd-label.
[02:23] <Jucato> I dont think there's a kubuntu server edition
[02:23] <__osh__> Jucato: I hope there is, cause it's installed on my computer back home. :-)
[02:23] <Jucato> hm ok....
[02:24] <__osh__> It's on the alternative cd. I suspect it's just ubuntu with no gui.
[02:24] <Jucato> lol
[02:24] <Jucato> that's different
[02:24] <Jucato> there is a separate "ubuntu server edition"
[02:24] <Mr_Sonoma> according to ubotu it doesnt have a gui in the server edition, but then, why would a server need a gui?
[02:25] <__osh__> It's labeled as "server" though.
[02:25] <Jucato> there's a separate CD for it. the alternate install cd only has a server install (command-line system)
[02:25] <__osh__> Mr_Sonoma: How else would you be able to administer it, if there is no gui. ;-)
[02:25] <Jucato> but that's not the same as the server edition. that's why they changed the label in the menu.
[02:25] <Jucato> er.. admins rarely use GUI's
[02:25] <Jucato> except Windows admins
[02:25] <Mr_Sonoma> __osh__, there's the command line =)
[02:25] <wers> what code do I use to know my software's version?
[02:26] <Jucato> wers: which software?
[02:26] <wers> like..pidgin
[02:26] <Jucato> usually "appname --version" or Help -> About
[02:26] <wers> k..i'll try it
[02:26] <Jucato> or apt-cache policy <packagename>
[02:27] <Jucato> you ain't :P
[02:27] <Mr_Sonoma> lol
[02:27] <wers> ??
[02:27] <__osh__> Jucato: Good to know about server edition vs server install though. Thanks for that info.
[02:27] <Mr_Sonoma> <------ too tired to catch most "more than simple" humor
[02:27] <wers> it worked
[02:27] <Jucato> of course it works. you doubted me? O.o
[02:28] <wers> hahahah.. no! just wanted to report to you, boss!
[02:28] <__osh__> Jucato: How would you know. I might be very cute. For all you know I could be a 18yrs old blond bimbo with huge... ambitions.
[02:28] <Jucato> :P
[02:29] <__osh__> But since I'm doing sysadmin work that's higly improbable... :-(
[02:29] <Jucato> who knows? anyway offtopic so stopping here :P
[02:29] <Mr_Sonoma> i know a few good lookin ladies that work in I/T
[02:31] <Eagleray> Hi, what's the name of the binary for the kde tray power management utility?
[02:34] <stdin> Eagleray: it's not a binary, it's actually a python script :p but it's called "guidance-power-manager"
[02:36] <Eagleray> stdin: that explains why I couldn't find it! thanks :-D
[02:36] <maverick_> anyone here familiar with 915resolution settings???
[02:39] <sbuso> jhjkhghjk
[02:39] <Eagleray> sbuso: do you have a question?
[02:39] <sbuso> oh, no.. gracias
[02:39] <sbuso> estaba probando...
[02:39] <sbuso> :D
[02:40] <sbuso> do you speak spanish?
[02:40] <Jucato> !es | sbuso
[02:40] <ubotu> sbuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:40] <sbuso> no, no necesito ayuda
[02:41] <emilsedgh> !es | sbuso
[02:41] <ubotu> sbuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:41] <Jucato> I think he just said he didn't need help
[02:41] <Jucato> !915
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <sbuso> ok, yes i need psychological aid
[02:43] <sbuso> :-D
[02:43] <Jucato> this isn't the place for that
[02:43] <sbuso> ok
[02:43] <sbuso> byee
[02:46] <wers> sbuso, I'm a psychologist
[02:47] <wers> just kidding... try #psychology
[02:51] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  I know the feeling :)
[02:53] <ubuntu> elo
[02:53] <Nem> dad
[03:06] <genii> Quiet here :)
[03:07] <SlimeyPete> sssh.... I's huntin' wabbits
[03:09] <BluesKaj> lots to read in the feeds this morning
[03:11] <Mr_Sonoma> how much trouble do people have playing windows based video games? i understand running wine and all. what games do yall run?
[03:11] <__osh__> I play windows at work... ;-)
[03:11] <SlimeyPete> I used to run Baldur's Gate, but otherwise I've not had much success
[03:12] <SlimeyPete> supposedly HL2 and WoW run well
[03:12] <SlimeyPete> I tend to stick to games which have a native Linux client
[03:13] <__osh__> Unibet poker runs through wine but has a horrible net-lag. It came with an "upgrade" to the client.
[03:15] <BluesKaj> some ppl who want to play games buy PS2s or Xboxs or Wiis ...makes sense to me
[03:16] <Mr_Sonoma> lol a friend of mine is wanting to swap to linux but wants his games to work and yes he also has xbox and wii
[03:17] <BluesKaj> and shrugs
[03:17] <__osh__> And some people who don't have time to play much feels that xbox/wii/ps3 is overkill for 1-2h gaming/month. To each his own.
[03:17] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:18] <BluesKaj> well a good compromise is a windows partition
[03:19] <__osh__> Or wine/cedega. I hear good things about cedega but haven't tried it.
[03:22] <gn00b> just installed kubuntu on my hp ze2000 laptop. followed the instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1189681&postcount=105 . before i started, wlan showed up in the network setting, now it doesn't. can anyone help me get my broadcom 4318 working
[03:23] <__osh__> gn00b: If you open up a konsole and write "iwconfig". Does it show anything?
[03:24] <gn00b> lo, eth0, eth2 all say 'no wireless extensions
[03:25] <tailsfan> Hi There
[03:25] <SlimeyPete> hi
[03:26] <tailsfan> I was wondering, for when you try to install packages in Kubuntu with Adept Manager, does it install the necessary packages with it?
[03:26] <stdin> tailsfan: yeah, all dependencies are installed with it
[03:26] <__osh__> gn00b: Do you know which module controls your wireless card? Is it in the list if you type "lsmod"?
[03:26] <tailsfan> because I want to install something, but I get a red "INSTALL BREAK" message before i install anything, what does that mean
[03:27] <__osh__> I don't have the same card as you do so I don't know which module you'll need.
[03:27] <BluesKaj> err he has the broadcom 4318
[03:28] <BluesKaj> !info broadcom
[03:28] <ubotu> Package broadcom does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:28] <gn00b> __osh__, what exactly am i looking for in lsmod
[03:28] <Jucato> tailsfan: it means that what you are requesting Adept to do (like install something) would potentially break the system.
[03:28] <stdin> tailsfan: it means for some reason installing that package will break another. best thing to do it try to install it with "sudo apt-get install PackageName" and see what that says, post the output to pastebin so we can see if you want (link to pastebin is in the topic)
[03:29] <Jucato> tailsfan: you can also click on Preview Changes to see what will be broken, but better use apt-get to have clearer error messages
[03:29] <__osh__> BluesKaj: Yeah, I read that too. Do you know which module controls the broadcom 4318? I don't.
[03:29] <tailsfan> thanks I figured it out
[03:29] <genii> bcm43xx
[03:29] <__osh__> genii: thanks.
[03:29] <tailsfan> I did use apt-get and my package is too old for Feisty
[03:29] <genii> __osh__: np
[03:29] <__osh__> gn00b: Look for bcm43xx as genii suggested.
[03:30] <tailsfan> also, is there anyway to get the getdeb repository into Kubuntu as well
[03:31] <gn00b> bcm43xx not listed anywhere in there
[03:31] <__osh__> gn00b: Ok. Try "locate bcm43xx"
[03:31] <tailsfan> Why not stdin?
[03:31] <__osh__> gn00b: or "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"
[03:32] <stdin> tailsfan: because they are unsupported packages, if they break there's nothing we can do, as we didn't make the packages
[03:33] <tailsfan> well, is there a pidgin for Kubuntu that IS suported?
[03:33] <stdin> tailsfan: pidgin is just gaim renamed, use gaim for now
[03:34] <Jucato> Gutsy will be out in a month, and it has Pidgin. or if you can't wait, beta 1 will be out next week...
[03:34] <__osh__> Is pidgin better than kopete? If so, in what way?
[03:34] <tailsfan> as a matter of fact< i was trying to install Gutsy,b tu I need to wait for a alt. install CD to come out
[03:35] <tailsfan> all I know is that it has MySpaceIM support
[03:35] <stdin> tailsfan: there already is an alternate cd for it, there's been one for every tribe and there's the daily ones too
[03:35] <Jucato> to come out? there are daily builds being generated everyday (daily...) or you can just install using Tribe 5 and upgrade to the current
[03:35] <stdin> snap!
[03:35] <Jucato> you won...
[03:35] <stdin> :)
[03:35] <genii> heh
[03:36] <gn00b> after doing 'sudo modprobe bcm43xx' i now see 'bcm43xx   125332   0' and 'ieee80211softmac   31232  1   bcm43xx' and 'ieee80211   34760   2   bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac'
[03:36] <genii> !helpersnack |stdin
[03:36] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[03:36] <fkm> Does anyone know that the Z: Partition in the Wine konfiguration is for? It's from the default installation on Kubuntu.
[03:36] <Jucato> again, just *a& cookie...
[03:36] <__osh__> gn00b: Did the output of "iwconfig" change?
[03:37] <gn00b> yes
[03:37] <fkm> It seems that the target is / which I don't like and what's weird is that the Type is Floppy X\
[03:37] <skarface> yeah it's just your linux file tree
[03:37] <Jucato> fkm: remember that Windows only understands A:, B:, C: etc
[03:37] <gn00b> i now have eth1 as the broadcom 4318
[03:37] <gn00b> but still not working
[03:37] <fkm> Jucato, Yes, but why is this partition there? What's the purpose of it?
[03:37] <Jucato> Z: just points to the / partition
[03:38] <skarface> fkm: so "windows" can see your linux stuff
[03:38] <__osh__> gn00b: right. Now do an "iwlist eth1 scan"
[03:38] <Jucato> because Windows doesn't understasnd / , /home, etc
[03:38] <fkm> So it points to the root directory. But I don't need that
[03:38] <__osh__> gn00b: Do you see your access-point?
[03:38] <Jucato> so it has to map the Linux filesystem to different letters
[03:38] <stdin> wine runs in a sort of chroot, if there is no drive letter assigned somewhere then wine can't access it
[03:38] <gn00b> eth1   no scan results
[03:38] <Jucato> fkm: you might not need it. but Wine might. best check with #winehq
[03:39] <fkm> stdin, So it's some kind of workaround that is needed for the other 'partitions' to work properly?
[03:39] <fkm> Jucato, Ok, I'll do that
[03:39] <fkm> Thank you both!
[03:40] <stdin> fkm: so, if you have an /media/windows/myapp.exe, then running "wine /media/windows/myapp.exe" actually runs "Z:\media\windows\myapp.exe" in wine
[03:40] <__osh__> gn00b: Hmm. That's not good.
[03:40] <bryan> hmm
[03:40] <gn00b> iwconfig shows 'access point: invalid'
[03:40] <gremlinbt> :S
[03:41] <fkm> stdin, Ah ok. So you don't have to move all the files into ~/.wine/ :D That makes sense (i.e. for install files)
[03:41] <stdin> exactly :)
[03:41] <stdin> unix permissions still rule tho, so no wine app can do anything your user can't
[03:41] <__osh__> gn00b: Mhm...
[03:41] <stdin> so it is safe :)
[03:42] <gremlinbt> meh
[03:42] <fkm> That's good. Because I was afraid that with this 'partition' windows viruses may have a way to ruin my system :)
[03:42] <Jucato> windows viruses won't work on Linux...
[03:42] <stdin> "rm -r ~/.wine" will fix any wine problem :p
[03:42] <Pe3k> hello, pls I can't play video files fullscreen with mplayer in feisty fawn. with dapper it works good on same box. (I use -vo xv option in dapper but this doesn't help in feisty) any idea?
[03:42] <fkm> Yes, But don't they have a chance to work with wine?
[03:42] <__osh__> Jucato: Some have been shown to do. Through wine. =)
[03:43] <Jucato> work on / ?
[03:43] <__osh__> Jucato: Don't think that they cause any real damage thoguh.
[03:43] <stdin> Pe3k: use "-zoom" too
[03:43] <fkm> That's my point. Even they just ruin the wine installation.
[03:43] <gremlinbt> "run windows virii natively on WINE "
[03:43] <gremlinbt> what an ad
[03:43] <gremlinbt> : )
[03:43] <fkm> Heheh :)
[03:43] <fkm> You could add it to the list of features
[03:44] <gremlinbt> lol
[03:44] <Minnozz> Is there a known bug with WPA-PSK authentification?
[03:44] <Pe3k> stdin: ok I'll try thanks
[03:44] <fkm> Minnozz, Works fine here
[03:44] <Minnozz> fkm: I guess there's another problem then
[03:45] <__osh__> gn00b: I've got to leave but have a look at config options to iwconfig. Set channel and essid and such.
[03:45] <Minnozz> My wireless card works fine with aircrack (tested it with that) but can't connect to my AP
[03:45] <__osh__> gn00b: Perhaps someone else in here can help you better than I can.
[03:45] <fkm> Minnozz, I have some problems with the connection though. I have to be quite close to the AP to be able to connect to the AP and loose the connection when going further away. But I don't think this is related to the authentication/encryption.
[03:45] <gn00b> thanx for your help
[03:45] <gn00b> have a good day
[03:46] <__osh__> gn00b: Thanks and good luck.
[03:46] <fkm> Minnozz, Try it when you're about 1m away from the AP. Don't go too close! Because if you are too close it won't work either (even under Windows).
[03:47] <Minnozz> fkm: I'm afraid I can't get that close right now, but I'll try another time
[03:47] <fkm> kk
[03:47] <fkm> gl ;)
[04:03] <wers> how do I add the del.icio.us search engine to konqueror's search engines?
[04:05] <clintc> I'm running kubuntu 7.04 with kernel 2.6.20-16 and alsa version 1.0.14rc1... I'd like to try a newer version of the alsa drivers, does anyone know the procedure or could give me a link for doing the upgrade
[04:06] <Jucato> wers: follow this guide, but replace with del.icio.us http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=5657.0
[04:07] <Jucato> wers: use this for the Search URL: http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us&p=\{@}&type=all
[04:10] <wers> how about for the url shortcuts field sir Jucato? is that required?
[04:10] <Jucato> yes.
[04:10] <Jucato> definitely the url shortcut...
[04:10] <Jucato> wers: did you know that you could use those URL shorctuts without having to switch search engines in Konqi?
[04:10] <Jucato> gg:search terms
[04:11] <Jucato> ggi:search images
[04:11] <Jucato> dict:define words
[04:11] <wers> ohhh really??
[04:11] <wers> you mean.. using the google search engine?
[04:11] <Jucato> yeah. type those in the address bar (not the search engine)
[04:12] <wers> wowwwww
[04:12] <wers> kool
[04:12] <BluesKaj> clintc, your alsa driver is the latest version and the problem you have (if one exists) is the soundcard driver or your kmix and alsa setup
[04:12] <wers> so I can enter any url shortcut that I want?
[04:12] <Jucato> yep. make your own
[04:13] <clintc> BluesKaj: wouldn't 1.0.14rc1 be an earlier version than 1.0.14
[04:13] <Jucato> wers: I just tested it right now. it works
[04:14] <wers> wow.. that's kooool
[04:14] <wers> now, all I miss in firefox is stumbleupon
[04:14] <wers> ahhahaha
[04:14] <skarface> stumbleupon works in firefox
[04:15] <clintc> it would be hard to replicate all the firefox extension goodness in konq
[04:15] <clintc> I tend to use both
[04:15] <Jucato> yeah
[04:16] <wers> Jucatskee, you don't know stumbleupon!? that's the reason why I discovered ubuntu!
[04:16] <wers> hehe
[04:16] <BluesKaj> clintc, I don't see much of a difference , but having the latest isn't necessarily the greatest ... if the present alsa driver works, why bother ?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> clintc, but if you must: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/56600/ALSA-driver.html
[04:17] <Jucato> wers: yep. I'm not updated with the latest web trends and stuff :)
[04:18] <clintc> BluesKaj: I have rev-e of the m-audio delta 66 card... everything appears to work but no sound come forth,, the #alsa channel suggested using a newer alsa driver
[04:18] <clintc> BluesKaj: thanks for the link... looking now
[04:19] <cookie> hi there, can you  give the chinese ubuntu IRC channel?
[04:19] <Jucato> !cn | cookie
[04:19] <ubotu> cookie: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:19] <BluesKaj> !cn
[04:19] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:19] <Jucato> :P
[04:20] <cookie> thanks
[04:31] <Tomerz> I installed ntfs-3g... now... how do i play music from window partition?
[04:33] <highvolt1ge> Hi. How do I install KDE4 on gutsy?
[04:34] <stdin> highvolt1ge: same was as in feisty, except you don't need feisty-backports
[04:34] <Dr_willis> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[04:37] <deviance> How can I display hidden files in Konqueror?
[04:37] <deviance> Also where is firefox's chrome stored
[04:37] <Jucato> deviance: View menu -> Show Hidden Files
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. menu item  in the menus i thougt. :)
[04:37] <Jucato> deviance: ~/.mozilla/firefox/  maybe
[04:38] <Dr_willis> there it is. One of those 'set it and forget it' items.
[04:38] <deviance> Thanks :D
[04:42] <naknomik> Why is KMail showing all my mail folders as subfolders of Inbox?
[04:43] <Jucato> if you want, you can ask in #kontact too
[04:43] <naknomik> Is there compiz available for kubuntu?
[04:43] <hcbox> yes
[04:43] <Jucato> !compiz | naknomik
[04:43] <ubotu> naknomik: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:43] <sergio> hello
[04:43] <naknomik> How about compiz-fusion?
[04:45] <Jucato> compiz-fusion is just compiz + merged beryl
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Well one good thing - when gutsy gets released.. it will allready be in there. :)
[04:45] <Dr_willis> and people will stop asking about it. (yea right!)
[04:45] <Jucato> in where?
[04:46] <Jucato> "already be in there" where?
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Thoguth compwiz was to be inclided by default in gutsy. or did i just missread an artical.
[04:46] <Jucato> you must have read about Ubuntu ;)
[04:46] <sergio> I have a problem with target nvidia geforce fx 5500
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  your kidding the kubuntu/ubuntu guys are going to be splitting on that?
[04:47] <naknomik> Are KDE 4packages now available in feisty backports?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> then again i always install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop :)
[04:47] <sergio> I can not install nvidia driver to ubuntu 7.04
[04:47] <Dr_willis> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[04:47] <sergio> please, help
[04:47] <Dr_willis> naknomik,  that site says they are.
[04:47] <Dr_willis> sergio,  and whats your video card?
[04:47] <naknomik> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php I'm reading this
[04:48] <Dr_willis> beta2 is better even. :) heh..
[04:48] <Dr_willis> google gave me an old link
[04:48] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I don't think we have reached a decision in Kubuntu yet. given compiz/beryl's less than stellar integration with KDE...
[04:48] <Jucato> !kde4
[04:48] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  heh. :) What! ya mean compwiz/beryl is not Perfect! everyone seems to want it so badly it has to be perfect by now!
[04:48] <Jucato> gives you a recent link ^^ :)
[04:49] <sergio> install its
[04:49] <Jucato> Dr_willis: everyone wanted Windows too right? :)
[04:49] <naknomik> I have not used KDE since KDE 2.0, I was in gnome camp for years.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> I bet with kde4 it will be perfect!
[04:49] <Jucato> I bet GNOME 3.0 will too :)
[04:49] <Turazoor> hi all, i'm having problems with Azureus, it loads and then close straight away according to console there is a problem with java apparently this module [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172] , can anyone help?
[04:49] <naknomik> But I'm getting sick of too much simplicity (stupidity really) in gnome now.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> of coruse -- i tend to use fluxbox with a few of my own tweaks.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> naknomik,  :) been there.. did that..
[04:49] <Dr_willis> i leave gnome on for the wife.
[04:54] <kingofnic> just curious: if I install KDE 4, can I still use older Qt programs or are there conflicts?
[04:54] <stdin> KDE4 will not overwrite your KDE3 install, they are kept separate
[04:54] <emilsedgh> kingofnic: no conflict
[04:55] <kingofnic> ok, i will give it a try, i think
[04:55] <Dr_willis> but will all kde3 apps work right with kde4 - i think he is asking.
[04:55] <kingofnic> yes, dr_willis
[04:55] <Jucato> yesh
[04:55] <Dr_willis> not even a Slight chance of an problem? :)
[04:55] <root> hi!!, kubuntu in spanish???
[04:56] <naknomik> How do I tell Xephyr to start a window with specific size?
[04:56] <sergio> well
[04:56] <Jucato> !es | root
[04:56] <ubotu> root: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:56] <Jucato> naknomik: Xephyr -screen 1024x768 :1
[04:56] <Jucato> replace that with your resolution
[04:56] <Jucato> window size is based on the resolution you feed Xephyr
[05:01] <poison--> anyone knows how to use secure SSL with gFTP?
[05:01] <darkadmiral> ist there anyone with a real cool .bashrc, i lost mine
[05:02] <dedi> im looking for a filebrowser better than konqueror, with file transfer queues and more options. does anything like that exist?
[05:02] <darkadmiral> dolphin
[05:02] <stdin> darkadmiral: look in /etc/skel
[05:03] <Jucato> tansfer queues? don't think so
[05:03] <dedi> thanks darkadmiral, will check it out
[05:03] <darkadmiral> stdin: i have had colors in my termian for folders etc... but now everything ist white
[05:03] <Jucato> hm... Dolphin certainly doesn't have more options than Konqueror :)
[05:04] <stefan> I got an outlook-contact file attached to email. I see a winmail.dat. tnef things are installed also ktnef. But i can not add the contact to kmail- contact. Can someone help?
[05:04] <jhutchins> stefan: Perhaps it's not really a contact file.
[05:04] <jhutchins> stefan: Should be  a .vcd
[05:04] <jhutchins> stefan: If it's a tnef, it's probably a trojan.
[05:05] <stdin> darkadmiral: in your .bashrc should be " alias ls='ls --color=auto' " that gives ls it's colors
[05:05] <dedi> Jucato: you may know anything else?
[05:05] <stefan> no, its from a collegue inside the firm
[05:05] <stefan> ANd I see what He has done
[05:05] <stefan> going to contact ricght-click and snt
[05:06] <Jucato> dedi: I don't know of a file manager that has "transfer queues" (whatever those are)... but other KDE file managers would be Krusader and Dolphin (less options, more simplistic)
[05:06] <Dr_willis> i thought I saw transfer ques in BeOS. :)
[05:07] <dedi> Jucato: with transfer queues i mean that it queues the files when there already any copy/moving from this harddisk, instead of doing it both the same time and slow down the speed radically
[05:07] <Dr_willis> like when ya copu a large file to a drive. then while its copying you copy 3 other files..  they dotn all try to copy at the same time, making the hard drive to spasmatic.
[05:07] <darkadmiral> mh y does the color ls work in konsole but not in urxvt
[05:08] <jhutchins> stefan: Well, I've known of firms where the inside email was worse than outside.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> darkadmiral,  your TERM setting is not correct would be my first guess
[05:08] <Jucato> dedi: hm.. not aware of something like that... sorry
[05:08] <jhutchins> stefan: Especially if they're using LookOut.
[05:08] <Dr_willis>  you can use ls --color=always, or exporet a proper TERM setting.
[05:08] <dedi> Jucato: ok, thanks anyway
[05:08] <stefan> :)
[05:09] <jhutchins> dedi: what browsers have you seen with that feature?
[05:09] <stefan> Yes, i looked to outlook and you can sent it as vcard unt menu "action"
[05:09] <stefan> puh
[05:09] <stefan> does someone know if there is a ubuntu directory-server planned?
[05:10] <stdin> stefan: #ubuntu-devel would be a place to ask that
[05:10] <dedi> jhutchins: only for windows, a long time ago. i think it was called ultra-explorer
[05:11] <ribena007> that was one long brb lol :P 2 days my kubuntu messed up summet about fsck hey jhutchins how you been?
[05:11] <Lynoure> stefan: what do you mean by a directory-server? If something like active directory, try ldap
[05:11] <jhutchins> Enh.  Need coffee.
[05:12] <darkadmiral> Dr_willis: oh i think i'm using not the bash
[05:12] <darkadmiral> Dr_willis: how can i find out?
[05:13] <naknomik> I started KDE 4 inside Xephyr and all I see is an empty panel with two blobs reading 'This object could not be created'.
[05:13] <stdin> yep, that's KDE4b2
[05:13] <root_> spanish?
[05:13] <naknomik> stdin: no menus?
[05:13] <stdin> !es | ag3r, set is as your default
[05:13] <ubotu> ag3r, set is as your default: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:14] <stdin> naknomik: yep
[05:14] <naknomik> are there any programs that work?
[05:14] <stdin> all the programs work, if you can launch them :)
[05:14] <stdin> use Alt-F2 to launch krunner and start them
[05:16] <naknomik> I'm inside Xephyr so Alt-F2 won't work
[05:16] <stdin> press Ctrl-Shift first
[05:16] <naknomik> what programs are worth trying?
[05:34] <korsakoff> salve
[05:35] <stdin> korsakoff ?
[05:35] <korsakoff> yep hi
[05:35] <korsakoff> sorry, tought was the italian channel
[05:35] <Jucato> !it | korsakoff
[05:35] <ubotu> korsakoff: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:35] <korsakoff> thx, i'm going to try asking there
[05:35] <stdin> ahh, because "slave" means something different in english :p
[05:36] <korsakoff> yeah i know
[05:36] <korsakoff> salve means hi
[05:37] <Jucato> it's salve, not slave :P
[05:37] <korsakoff> yep
[05:37] <korsakoff> i explained what was my first word here :D
[05:38] <Jucato> vale :)
[05:38] <stdin> !it | Jucato :)
[05:38] <ubotu> Jucato :): Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:38] <Jucato> sorry, I wasn't speaking Italian
[05:38] <stdin> !en | Jucato
[05:38] <ubotu> Jucato: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:38] <stdin> then
[05:39] <Jucato> vale is also an english word, isn't it? :)
[05:40] <korsakoff> ehm, i make my question also here:
[05:41] <korsakoff> my audio card is recognized by the system, but when i try to play something with amarok (eg. the default ogg file) it doesn't play any sound at all
[05:41] <korsakoff> i've alsa installed
[05:41] <Dr_willis> korsakoff,  check your mixer settings. may have somthing muted.
[05:41] <korsakoff> uhm i type alsamixer on konsole
[05:42] <korsakoff> and putted all the available up and stored with alsactl store
[05:42] <Dr_willis> note that alsamixer has a lot of 'sliders' off to the side also you might not see at first.
[05:42] <korsakoff> yep
[05:42] <Dr_willis> use the right arrow to get to the right/side/screens :)
[05:42] <korsakoff> yes
[05:42] <Dr_willis> other then that. if it seems to be playing.. well..
[05:42] <Dr_willis> try playing somthing from a terminal and look for error messages.
[05:42] <korsakoff> but some of the sliders couldn't be rise
[05:43] <korsakoff> how can i play from terminal?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> try a simple playuer like that oog123 or whatever they are called
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find oogmp3
[05:43] <Dr_willis> oops
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find oog
[05:43] <ubotu> Package/file oogmp3 does not exist in feisty
[05:43] <ubotu> Found: googlizer, libgoogle-perftools-dev, libgoogle-perftools0, libnet-google-perl, libwww-google-calculator-perl (and 1 others)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i forget the name of the console plaeyrs.
[05:43] <Jucato> sox
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !find 123
[05:43] <ubotu> Found: flac123, libcdg123-0, libcdg123-dev, libroxen-123session, mpc123 (and 10 others)
[05:43] <Jucato> !more
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <Jucato> haha I forgot the command for that more :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !find mpg122
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !find mpg123
[05:44] <Dr_willis> :) silly typos
[05:44] <ubotu> Package/file mpg122 does not exist in feisty
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: mpg123-el, mpg321, xmms-mpg123-ja, mpg123, mpg123-alsa (and 4 others)
[05:44] <Jucato> !info sox
[05:44] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.18.2-1 (feisty), package size 323 kB, installed size 748 kB
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !info mpg123
[05:44] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (feisty), package size 134 kB, installed size 336 kB
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !find 321
[05:44] <ubotu> Found: geant321, geant321-data, geant321-doc, libgeant321-2, libgeant321-2-dev (and 1 others)
[05:45] <Jucato> heh ok that's a bit too much already Dr_willis :)
[05:45] <Jucato> you can also pm the bot :)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Heck i cant even rember the name of the player i am looking for.. I thought it was like mp3123
[05:45] <Dr_willis> or 123mp3 or.. heck with it. :)
[05:46] <snowdonkey> Hey guys.  I can't get my rear speakers to work with my 5.1 system.  I read online Gnome has an option for rear speakers to duplicate the front.  Is there an equivalent (or fix) in KDE?
[05:46] <Jucato> Dr_willis: <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.61-5 (feisty), package size 134 kB, installed size 336 kB
[05:46] <Dr_willis> That plays mp3s?
[05:46] <Jucato> isn't mp3 mpeg layer 3?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I dont know.. i aint had my coffee today. everything is sort of Low-res
[05:47] <stdin> mpeg1 layer 3 actually :)
[05:47] <Jucato> heh
[05:47] <Jucato> ok ok
[05:47] <ubunturos> does anybody have a bookmarked link on a how-to for pppoeconf ? (with screenshots)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> gonna make some coffee as soon as i get the Gutsy installer going on my other machine. :)
[05:48] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im having problems with my kubuntu 7.04 on a dell latitude d620 laptop.. When I try to play video (avi, mpg, dvd) with kaffeine, or mplayer, I get a black screen.. audio does work though.. I think I got all drivers installed , compiz is working okay for example.. Does anybody know what could fix this
[05:48] <Jucato> ubunturos: no screenshots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:48] <ubunturos> my problem is the same as this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549317&highlight=pppoeconf
[05:49] <Dr_willis> phoenixz,  you tried playing them with compwiz disabled?
[05:49] <ubunturos> Jucato: I have seen that. Doesn't help much
[05:50] <phoenixz> Dr_willis, Well, I got a line that I added to X that did make video work, but it wreked compiz...
[05:51] <phoenixz> Dr_willis,   Option          "LinearAlloc" "8160"
[05:51] <Jucato> ubunturos: when you setup pppoeconf, did you answer Yes when it asked whether you want to start it at boot?
[05:51] <phoenixz> Dr_willis, The thing is that compiz DID work correctly before with video..
[05:51] <ubunturos> Jucato: yes
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Interesting.
[05:52] <phoenixz> Dr_willis, on another compure
[05:52] <phoenixz> computer
[05:52] <Dr_willis> same video cards?
[05:52] <ubunturos> Jucato: on a live CD internet works, though. After installation, firefox states "Server not found"
[05:52] <Jucato> ubunturos: hm.. sorry no other idea...
[05:53] <phoenixz> Dr_willis, well, Fedora on a desktop compu with NVidia card.. :) This latitude has an Intel 945 chipset
[05:53] <ubunturos> Jucato: umm, ok
[05:53] <Jucato> ubunturos: with screenshots: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=208c758b5d9598afd1daadaa6fe1dc2a&showtopic=584398&pid=588813486&st=0&#entry588813486
[05:54] <ubunturos> Jucato: thanks. :)
[05:55] <ag3r> hi
[05:55] <ag3r> someone to help me to run beryl
[05:55] <ton> hi from amsterdam
[05:56] <poison--> amsterdam rocks
[05:56] <ag3r> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[05:56] <ag3r> how can i repair this?
[05:56] <phoenixz> ton, pot is baaaad, mkaay?
[05:58] <wers> does uploading webcam videos on kopete really work?
[05:59] <deviance> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:59] <deviance> Does firefox need a plugin to run java
[05:59] <poison--> whats a good html graphical editor?
[06:00] <poison--> yes deviance
[06:00] <Jucato> deviance: yes. sun-java6-plugin
[06:00] <poison--> havin issues with it here too
[06:00] <deviance> Oh and sun-java5-jre is team speak?
[06:00] <deviance> !info sun-java5-jre
[06:00] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB
[06:00] <Jucato> or sun-java5-plugin
[06:00] <deviance> Adept is telling me its team speak!
[06:00] <Jucato> whichever java you are using
[06:00] <poison--> lol
[06:00] <Jucato> yeah there's a bug in adept
[06:01] <deviance> Ah
[06:01] <deviance> Is there a better program to use than adept then?
[06:01] <Turazoor> anyone know whether i can get counterstrike on linux tee hee
[06:02] <deviance> You can Turazoor
[06:02] <Jucato> deviance: the bug is just with descriptions. it still works
[06:02] <deviance> !wine
[06:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:02] <deviance> !info wine
[06:02] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:02] <deviance> !package managers
[06:02] <Jucato> deviance: why?
[06:03] <deviance> Just wondering :P
[06:03] <Turazoor> deviance: sweet!.. can i run the setup thru wine?
[06:03] <Jucato> synaptic (GTK/GNOME), kpackage (KDE), apt-get, aptitude (Command Line)
[06:03] <deviance> Google for a guide
[06:03] <thomass> is there skype for linux?
[06:03] <thomass> kubuntu?
[06:03] <Jucato> !skype | thomass
[06:03] <ubotu> thomass: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[06:03] <SlimeyPete> yup, thomass
[06:03] <deviance> kpackage eh?
[06:03] <thomass> i can't find it in adept package
[06:04] <thomass> i entered skype
[06:04] <deviance> !info skype
[06:04] <ubotu> Package skype does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:04] <jhutchins> thomass: duh, follow th eurl.
[06:05] <Jucato> thomass: see the guide above
[06:06] <ubunturos> !dhclient
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <thomass> Jucato: ok i'm reading it i downloaded the .deb file
[06:08] <jhutchins> thomass: sorry to be rude, but that guide should have all the answers.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis_> but you are rude in a polite way. :)
[06:11] <lelik>  
[06:11] <thomass> i got dependency problems it didn't install
[06:12] <lelik> hello
[06:12] <Jucato> !hi | lelik
[06:12] <ubotu> lelik: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:12] <jhutchins> thomass: Perhaps you need to enable some of the additional repositories for the dependencies.
[06:13] <thomass> jhutchins: hmmmm dont' know what repositories are
[06:13] <jhutchins> !repos | thomass
[06:13] <ubotu> thomass: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:13] <lelik> do you speak rus ?
[06:13] <Jucato> dpkg doesn't automatically resolve dependencies...
[06:13] <jhutchins> thomass: They are sub-sets of available packages.
[06:13] <Jucato> !ru | lelik
[06:13] <ubotu> lelik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:13] <jhutchins> !ru | lelik
[06:13] <lelik> !ru
[06:14] <jhutchins> Yeah, let's not abuse the bot too badly.
[06:14] <lelik> SENQ
[06:14] <bottiger> How do I mount a bin/cue file ?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis_> bottiger:  convert it to .iso then mount the .iso normally
[06:15] <Dr_Willis_> !iso
[06:15] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:15] <bottiger> Dr_Willis_: guess what my next question is :)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis_> bottiger:  guess what i alwready answered.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis_> :)
[06:15] <bottiger> Dr_Willis_: ohh - I'll take a look at the link :P
[06:15] <Dr_Willis_> bbl
[06:16] <centermedia> #ubuntu-pt
[06:20] <snowdonkey> Hey guys.  I can't get my rear speakers to work with my 5.1 system.  I read online Gnome has an option for rear speakers to duplicate the front.  Is there an equivalent (or fix) in KDE?
[06:23] <thomass> I added the repository in my sources list, updated and still said I had dependency problems
[06:25] <deviance> !calc
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <deviance> !calculator
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calculator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <thomass> why does it say the in package installer that is "broken"
[06:35] <thomass> why does it say the in package installer that is "broken"
[06:36] <thomass> when I apply changes in package manager that the installation is broken and could not be installed
[06:39] <FT1> good evening...
[06:40] <jhutchins> A gut check on Gutsy Gibbon: Windows thinking: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/to/~3/159065699/article.pl
[06:40] <jhutchins> !info kcalc | deviance
[06:40] <ubotu> deviance: kcalc: calculator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 200 kB, installed size 728 kB
[06:41] <jhutchins> thomass: Not being sure what repositories you've enabled, I would suggest that you use aptitude from the command line instead of the silly GUI thing.
[06:41] <jhutchins> It will give you more meaningful feedback.
[06:42] <jhutchins> I would imagine that skype requires universe and multiverse, and that the documentation mention that somewhere.
[06:42] <Jucato> deviance: SpeedCrunch is the default installed calculator btw
[06:42] <deviance> Ah
[06:42] <thomass> jhutchins: yea i used ommand line
[06:42] <deviance> Thats why I couldnt find it :P
[06:43] <thomass> packages have unmet dependencies, broken package
[06:47] <deviance> What is the pagh
[06:47] <deviance> pager?
[06:47] <deviance> !pager
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <emilsedgh> deviance: thats about virtual desktops
[06:48] <Jucato> deviance: what?
[06:48] <FT1> it is the small display that shows he desktops that you have...
[06:48] <deviance> When I right click my window switcher it sais launch the pager
[06:49] <emilsedgh> thats a kicker applet, Panel->Right Click->Add Applet
[06:49] <Jucato> deviance:  ah yeah. there's a standalone virtual desktop pager app. not installed by default
[06:50] <jhutchins> This is going to be fun when we have to remember that people could be running either kde or beryl.
[06:52] <Jucato> pfft...
[06:52] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, well then let the eyecandy followers setup a chat/advice room :)
[06:52] <BluesKaj> #eyecandy
[06:53] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Compizbuntu.
[06:54] <sbucat> mmm
[06:54] <FT1> i've got a question...
[06:59] <genii> !ask | FT1
[06:59] <ubotu> FT1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:00] <FT1> sorry...
[07:01] <FT1> i'm trying to compile kvirc from sources and have a problem with dlopen-capabilities...
[07:01] <FT1> does anyone know how to solve it...?
[07:05] <genii> FT1: What is the error message?
[07:05] <ksivaji> FT1 what error you got
[07:05] <ksivaji> genii hi
[07:05] <genii> ksivaji: Hi :)
[07:05] <ksivaji> :-)
[07:06] <FT1> it says: ni dlopen capabilites found. It looks that your system has no interface to the dynamic linker ?
[07:06] <ksivaji> FT1 can you paste the error in pastebin
[07:07] <FT1> just a second...
[07:08] <puster1> i needed to switch to the other computer
[07:08] <puster1> ### CONFIGURE ERROR:
[07:08] <puster1> ###  No dlopen capabilities found.
[07:08] <puster1> ###  It looks that your system has no interface to the dynamic linker ?
[07:08] <puster1> ###  If you're on linux, you either miss libdl , or the linker is not
[07:08] <puster1> ###  able to find it. Make sure that libdl is in /lib or /usr/lib.
[07:08] <puster1> ###  If you're not on linux, please drop a mail to pragma at kvirc dot net
[07:08] <puster1> ###  describing your system and I'll try to fix it.
[07:09] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | puster1
[07:09] <ubotu> puster1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:09] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[07:10] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[07:11] <jhutchins> "Moreover, somewhere along the line, a strain of what might be called "Windows thinking" seems to have entered into the project's plans. Free software has always been about user education and choice, yet, at times, Ubuntu seems to forget these goals in favor of a quick fix that keeps users ignorant and unaware of alternatives." - Bruce Byfield, Datamation; http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/11070_3700666_4
[07:12] <genii> back
[07:13] <FT1> ok... pasted it there...
[07:13] <genii> FT1: url please
[07:14] <FT1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38005/
[07:18] <LjL> any idea why a tomtom one wouldn't mount automatically on KDE when any plain USB key will? it can be mounted manually. it doesn't show in media://
[07:21] <Dr_willis_> whats a tomtom?
[07:21] <jhutchins> gps
[07:21] <jhutchins> LjL: more to it than a simple storage device, it can do tracking via usb.
[07:21] <Dr_willis_> Ahh. :)   interesting. check dmesg see what its seeing at?
[07:22] <Dr_willis_> could be its playing it safe and not automounting it - since its not sure what it is.
[07:22] <thomass> yea so I can't install skype on my computer
[07:23] <LjL> jhutchins: uhm, not by default i don't think. i'm pretty sure that by default it just acts as a USB mass storage device -- although, evidently, with something not quite protocol-standard
[07:23] <jhutchins> What does it store?
[07:23] <ksivaji> please someone suggest me a driver for http://pastebin.com/d676785e4
[07:24] <jhutchins> LjL: Automatic recognition of a device depends on that particular device's USB ID being in the database, not on it being a certain generic type of device.
[07:24] <jhutchins> ksivaji: For what?
[07:25] <ksivaji> jhutchins  http://pastebin.com/d676785e4
[07:26] <LjL> jhutchins: well i must admit i know very little of how automounting works. but from syslog, one infers that it's being readily recognized as a storage device
[07:27] <ksivaji> jhutchins i think s3 unichrome
[07:27] <pjesi> Hi guys, it looks like the battery applet is gone from my system after an update. Any ideas how to bring it back?
[07:28] <ksivaji> do right click on panel -> add panel
[07:28] <ksivaji> do right click on taskbar* -> add panel
[07:29] <pjesi> ksivaji: yes but the applet doesn't show up
[07:31] <harald> How can I mount a NTFS partition with ro rights only and that normal users can read this partition (with fstab).
[07:32] <pjesi> man it is bad when these updates continue to break my setup
[07:33] <harald> take care with the java update =)
[07:33] <jhutchins> ksivaji: That pastebin is for your whole system.  Lots of different drivers involved.
[07:33] <ksivaji> how to find the driver that i need
[07:35] <BluesKaj> pjesi, look in add-remove programs ands type battery in the searchbar
[07:35] <jhutchins> ksivaji: Driver for what?  everything listed there has a working driver loaded.
[07:35] <ksivaji> driver for vedio
[07:35] <ksivaji> driver for vedio card
[07:35] <ksivaji> !xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[07:35] <jhutchins> Are you not getting video?
[07:36] <ksivaji> ya but i can play games
[07:36] <ksivaji> ya but i canT* play games
[07:36] <jhutchins> Games written for Nvidia cards?
[07:37] <jhutchins> Windows games?
[07:37] <pjesi> BluesKaj: ok
[07:37] <ksivaji> no open arena
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> ksivaji: well, that's based on one of the quake engines...i think quake 3
[07:38] <ksivaji> it strucks  as i am playing i cant do anything
[07:38] <jhutchins> ksivaji: As far as I can tell, you have the driver that's available.  You can try checking with S3 or xorg to see if there's anything newer, but I don't think it's a driver issue.
[07:38] <Dr_willis_> egads - all this compwiz stuff is making me dizy. :)
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: well, it could be worse...i just got wow up and running...lol
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: well, a couple of days ago anyway
[07:39] <Dr_willis_> hitmanWilly,  try that DungeonRunner game yet. Its so colorfull.. it gave me a hedache.
[07:40] <ksivaji> jhutchins no  i saw in forums people who have s3 unichrome cant play games because of driver
[07:40] <Dr_willis_> Gotta love a game thats free for the 'basics' :)  only $5 a mo for the enhanced
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: hmmm, no, have to look into it
[07:40] <Dr_willis_> hitmanWilly,  by NcSoft.
[07:40] <Dr_willis_> basiclly a Diablo  remake with a Sence of Humor.
[07:40] <ksivaji> hitmanWilly  quake 3 means
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: ugh, i hated diablo
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> hitmanWilly,  to each their own. :) i dont care for Warcraft any more.
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> Got Lord Of the Rings online. and aint played it in ages.. its just the little things that turn me off in some of these games.
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: diablo was nwn without any of the cool stuff
[07:41] <Dr_willis_> hitmanWilly,  hmm.. I think ya need to check the timelines. :)
[07:42] <Dr_willis_> Diablo was sort of the grandfather to NWN. so its not fair to compare them that way
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: im aware diablo came out first, it was just massively boring to me
[07:42] <Dr_willis_> Pong was  Quake5 without all the blood. :)
[07:42] <Dr_willis_> Look at tetris. :)
[07:42] <Dr_willis_> or any of the 100000+ other clasic games.
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: of course, i was in my final fantasy phase when diablo came out though...
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> Final Fantasy 1 through.. egads.. how many did i play.. how many did i even finish. :)
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> I sort of perfered the Breath of Fire series.
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis_: and you can't diss on tetris, that and space invaders were the only video games i ever got my mom to play :P
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> My wife has been playimng these 'find the hidden item' games like crazy lately
[07:51] <boompro>   ;)
[07:52] <boompro>  ,     7.04  CD     CD   jmicron  ?
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> uhhh, what language is that?
[07:54] <jhutchins> hitmanWilly: idiot.
[07:54] <boompro> hitmanWilly,oh sorry ))
[07:54] <boompro> russian
[07:54] <LjL> !ru
[07:55] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:55] <jhutchins> boompro: Russian usually renders correctly here, sorry.
[07:55] <jhutchins> Looks a lot more like someone exploring accented characters.
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> sorry, apparently my unicode settings on irssi are a little bit off :P
[07:55] <LjL> jhutchins: depends whether you're using UTF-8 or KOI-8 or something else
[07:55] <LjL> if you can see the !ru factoids, your settings are probably fine
[07:56] <jhutchins> The sequences still look suspicious.
[07:56] <boompro> !ru
[07:56] <LjL> but then many russians (including (i'd say, unfortunately) the #ubuntu-ru channel) use KOI
[07:56] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> LjL: you mean the ????????????????????????????? factoid?
[07:56] <LjL> heheh
[07:56] <jhutchins> Six accented vowels in a row as rendered here.
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> LjL: yeah, they're off...have to fix that
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> LjL: but later
[07:57] <boompro> !ru
[07:57] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:58] <jhutchins> 
[07:59] <jhutchins> renders here as eiiooieaia with varying accents.
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins: yeah, same here
[07:59] <genii> here too
[08:00] <jhutchins> Whereas "pycckom" doesn't make much sense to me, but I can recognize it as russian.
[08:00] <Azzco> I've logitech microphone that I want to use, I can't find any guide for KDE. Help?
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> well, not like it'd make much difference anyway, don't speak a lick of russian, or pretty much any cyrillic language
[08:00] <jhutchins> Azzco: Microphone should be microphone, plug it into your mic-in jack and your sound card doesn't care about the brand.
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: usb mic?
[08:01] <jhutchins> I went through college german, but that was before I could have kept it by practicing on the internet.
[08:01] <Azzco> nope it's one of those with the normal connection
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> heh, 2 yrs of french in HS, and some badly subbed anime, and that's about it...lol
[08:02] <Azzco> I've got alot of tabs in kmix but I can't figure out how to get it wokring, I got sound from it before but that was just like added above the normal sound didn't seem to integrate into any apps
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: did you unmute the mic in channel?
[08:03] <Azzco> Nope
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: make sure its unmuted
[08:03] <Azzco> the mic was in the line-in before now I switched to mic.
[08:04] <Azzco> hitmanWilly: Oh sorry read wrong thought you typed "mute the mic"
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: it should be a bright green light in kmix
[08:04] <Azzco> hitmanWilly: How do I know when it works then?
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: test it out in a sound recorder app...i really never use mine, so im not sure what app would work best
[08:07] <csanders> long question for the room, I have a VPN set up to my work, at home im on winblows, my work box is kubuntu, is there a way I can start an X session on my win box to point to my work box ?
[08:07] <csanders> or how can I do this, tinyvnc ?
[08:07] <Azzco> -_-
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> csanders: any vnc client should be able to do it
[08:08] <csanders> any recommendations
[08:08] <csanders> tinyvnc was slow last time i used it
[08:08] <hitmanWilly> csanders: well, if you don't need X, you could use ssh
[08:09] <csanders> yea I need X :( . for eclipse of all things
[08:09] <hitmanWilly> csanders: otherwise, not sure, don't use vnc myself
[08:09] <Azzco> Okay so I'm not sure abuot all the functions on my soundcard... I have the mic plugged in into the line-in jack... Should it be in there or the mic jack?
[08:10] <hitmanWilly> csanders: eclipse is java, right? you could get the winblows version, im pretty sure they have one
[08:10] <notv> does anyone know about using amarok with ipods?
[08:10] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: mic, line in is set up more for amplified input
[08:10] <notv> i cant get my files to transfer over from the transfer queue
[08:11] <hitmanWilly> notv: probably a permission issue
[08:12] <Azzco> Thought so... I've found a guide for gnome... is IEC958 some generic kind of soundcard or something?
[08:12] <notv> but my songs arent from itunes and i found a guide that says its possible
[08:12] <csanders> hitmanWilly: yes they have , I need the code on my local machine, otherwise Id have to keep checking into and outof CVS
[08:12] <hitmanWilly> Azzco: i think its an onboard intel one
[08:12] <Azzco> Hmm... okay
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> csanders: ok, ugh, well, you could set up a samba share and access the files on your work machine directly via windows
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> csanders: you said this was already set up as a VPN, right?
[08:13] <csanders> yes
[08:13] <csanders> ahh thats a good idea
[08:14] <csanders> thanks :)
[08:14] <hitmanWilly> csanders: np :)
[08:15] <hitmanWilly> notv: when i say permission issue i mean that amarok doesn't have permission to write to the ipod
[08:16] <hitmanWilly> notv: honestly, i don't really like amarok for ipod stuff, generally i've found that gtkpod works better
[08:34] <HanzZ> hm.. after apt-get dist-upgrade my system freezes and glxgears shows only 5 FPS, but direct rendering is ON in glxinfo
[08:34] <HanzZ> has anobody same problem?
[08:35] <Azzco> HanzZ: did it upgrade the kernel?
[08:35] <HanzZ> i have nvidia drivers
[08:35] <HanzZ> no
[08:35] <Azzco> Hmm... Are you sure it's the correct version of the drivers then?
[08:35] <genii> dist-upgrade auto upgrades the kernel if a new one is available
[08:36] <HanzZ> hm.. but my last reboot was some days ago, so i can test one of the old kernels
[08:36] <Azzco> Do that ;)
[08:36] <HanzZ> i know it :) but its updated only some libs :)
[08:36] <HanzZ> ok.. i will be back in minute
[08:38] <lnx_> how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?
[08:40] <HanzZ> ok
[08:40] <Azzco> Better?
[08:40] <HanzZ> with "Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" it works
[08:40] <HanzZ> 2.6.20-16 it freezes after KDE start
[08:41] <zimba12> hi
[08:41] <Azzco> I'm clueless here...
[08:41] <lnx_> how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?
[08:41] <HanzZ> and if it's not freeze, then fps is 5
[08:44] <zimba12> I'm using Kubuntu for 4 months...20 minutes ago I started it and it happened a strange thing:
[08:46] <Azzco> zimba12: are you going to end that story? :p
[08:46] <zimba12> I was logging to kdm, it accepted the password, but it immediatly came to login
[08:47] <zimba12> Azzco: this is the end, the sad end
[08:47] <zimba12> I cannot log in my kubuntu and I don't know the reason
[08:47] <Azzco> Hmm... can you log in into the virtual consoles?
[08:47] <zimba12> yes
[08:48] <Azzco> Try to start kdm from there and check for errors?
[08:48] <ksivaji> Azzco what is birtual console
[08:48] <zimba12> Azzco: I tried to read the X log
[08:48] <ksivaji> Azzco what is virtual console
[08:49] <Azzco> ksivaji: you've got 6 virtual console by default you can get to them by Ctrl+Alt+F(1-6) and F7 is your workspace right now
[08:49] <zimba12> but it appears have no error
[08:49] <Azzco> Hmm weird... you don't get any dialgbox from kde? I had a problem with dcop once
[08:50] <ksivaji> Azzco alt+ctrl+f(1-6) doesnt works
[08:51] <Azzco> Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[08:51] <ksivaji> yes doesnt works
[08:51] <lnx_> how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?
[08:51] <zimba12> Azzco: I don't understand why it happens, I didn't change anything from the last hit boot
[08:52] <Azzco> ksivaji: that's weird...
[08:52] <Azzco> zimba12: I'm sorry I don't know :( I'm not the most hardcore linux user..
[08:52] <zimba12> Azzco: ok, tnx
[08:54] <zimba12> please help me, I suffer from kde-withdrawal-symptoms
[08:54] <ksivaji> is it possible to restore our password by editing /etc/passwd
[08:56] <Lega> 'ello.
[08:56] <Hirvinen> ksivaji: The passwords are not saved anywhere. Only hashes of the passwords, salted with at least the username.
[08:58] <ksivaji> Hirvinen if i for get my password in that case is it possible to find that
[08:58] <Hirvinen> No.
[08:58] <Hirvinen> Well, not easy anyway.
[08:59] <ksivaji> ho
[08:59] <Hirvinen> You could try a password cracking program like johntheripper, but it might take a very long time.
[09:00] <ksivaji> ok is there any good topic in linux for paper presentation
[09:00] <Hirvinen> (Or if you remember something about your password, you could make a cracker yourself that would use that knowledge.)
[09:01] <ksivaji> Hirvinen can you tell me how johntheripper will work
[09:01] <ksivaji> i mean the input and output
[09:01] <genii> ksivaji: Anyhow, if you forget your password you can login to Recovery mode , edit /etc/shadow and remove the hashed password from between the two colons (::)
[09:01] <Hirvinen> ksivaji: man is a friend
[09:02] <ksivaji> Hirvinen ok ok
[09:02] <Hirvinen> aptitude install john
[09:03] <Hirvinen> John is mostly geared towards finding bad passwords using word lists, though.
[09:03] <zimba12> maybe it's a file-system error
[09:04] <zimba12> how can I force it to check the file-system in the next boot
[09:04] <jhutchins> You _can_ cut and paste a password hash.
[09:04] <ksivaji> zimba12 fsck
[09:05] <jhutchins> zimba12: -F option on the shutdown command, shutdown -F -r now
[09:05] <jhutchins> ksivaji: The challenge is to check the root filesystem, which is mounted if you're using the system.
[09:05] <zimba12> jhutchins, tnx, I'm going to try...
[09:05] <jhutchins> zimba12: You will be happy, it works.
[09:06] <jhutchins> zimba12: If you forget, you will be frustrated, because you will KNOW it's possible!
[09:06] <lnx_> how i can set "file browser" profile as default konqueror profile ?
[09:08] <Aaronfc7> Hello
[09:09] <Aaronfc7> I see people joining and leaving but is anyone talking?
[09:09] <jthomas> can i install 32bit linux on an Intel Xeon QuadCore processor (5300 series)?
[09:09] <ksivaji> lnx_ setting->save profile
[09:13] <lnx_> ksivaji , doesnt work , when i start konqueror again its "webbrowser" profile again , i want that when i start konq i will in "file manager" profile
[09:13] <ksivaji> lnx_ search menus you will get
[09:14] <NAZ87> Hi guys
[09:15] <NAZ87> Jhutchins, are you here?
[09:17] <genii> jthomas: The stock 32 bit kernel works on the 64 bit processors as well, i have it on a Core2Duo
[09:19] <Sanne> lnx_: you can specify the profile in the command which starts konqueror, like: konqueror --profile your_profile_name
[09:19] <khaije1> anyone ever heard of bitpim? it's an app for managing cell phones?
[09:19] <jthomas> genii i need to have a Linux server running VMWare and Win2k3 server on top of it; the Win2k3 that comes with the server we purchase will be 64bit, but the apps on the Linux (an old database) needs to be 32bit...
[09:19] <khaije1> i'm wondering where i can find a channel for it...
[09:20] <jthomas> khaije1: anything about it on their website?
[09:20] <lnx_> ksivaji , i didnt find it have idea ?
[09:20] <khaije1> jthomas: i wanna say no... but since i'm not totally sure i think i'd better check first!
[09:21] <genii> jthomas: You can run a 32 bit kernel inside a 64 bit OS running a vmplayer without issue
[09:21] <ksivaji> sorry kubuntu is new for me
[09:21] <genii> jthomas: Not the other way however
[09:21] <jthomas> hmm ok thanks!
[09:22] <genii> jthomas: np
[09:22] <Sanne> lnx_: I just looked, the correct command should be: konqueror --profile filemanagement
[09:22] <lnx_> Sanne , but i want to make some profile to be the default , i cant switch profile in konq also but this is not what i want todo . . .
[09:22] <Sanne> lnx_: I only know this way to ensure konqueror loads a certain profile on startup
[09:23] <Sanne> lnx_: how do you launch konqueror? From the kmenu?
[09:23] <lnx_> err :i can switch profile ******
[09:24] <lnx_> Sanne , yes
[09:24] <Sanne> lnx_: go to this entry in the menu, right click, edit
[09:24] <ksivaji> genii ubuntu is completely free right
[09:24] <ksivaji> free of cost is it ?
[09:25] <genii> Totally free, yes
[09:25] <lnx_> Sanne , i know what you want to do , i dont want thhis i want to know how to choose default profile . . .
[09:25] <lnx_> someone know ?
[09:26] <genii> In addition they will even ship you the install CDs at no cost as well
[09:26] <ksivaji> genii then how the programmer can make money
[09:26] <LjL> !offtopic
[09:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:27] <genii> ksivaji: They generally don't and are poor :) As LjL says we are discussing now offtopic things here however
[09:27] <Sanne> lnx_: hmmm, without specifying it on the command? I don't know, sorry.
[09:32] <notv> anyone here?
[09:33] <ksivaji> 406 user are here
[09:33] <LjL> 408
[09:33] <ksivaji> LjL 409
[09:34] <LjL> not when i said it, no. but when you said 406, there were 407
[09:34] <notv> i added songs to my ipod with amarok but they dont show up on the ipod, whats going on?
[09:35] <ksivaji> :P
[09:36] <ksivaji> notv may file type
[09:37] <ksivaji> notv copy the file which ipod can process
[09:44] <zimba12> a weird thing...I'm using kubuntu for 4 months without any problem, but this evening I started it and a weird thing happened
[09:44] <ksivaji> zimba12 what happpned
[09:44] <zimba12> when I login to kdm
[09:45] <zimba12> it clears the screen and goes back to the login again
[09:45] <zimba12> without any message
[09:45] <wo0f> where is the restricted drivers menu located in kde?
[09:46] <zimba12> I don't understand the reason because I've not changed anything from the last hit-login
[09:46] <anthronaut> zimba12: do you use a separate home partition?
[09:47] <zimba12> anthronaut: yes
[09:47] <wo0f> where is the restricted drivers menu located in kde?
[09:47] <martijn81> wo0f: there is none
[09:47] <anthronaut> zimba12: then it got full, kde won't start anymore unless you free some space on it
[09:47] <martijn81> it should be in the systray
[09:47] <anthronaut> zimba12: i had the same problem, it's weird.
[09:47] <wo0f> martijn81, :S why?
[09:47] <martijn81> wo0f: dunno, don't ask me lol
[09:48] <zimba12> anthronaut: you're my hero, you're right!
[09:48] <martijn81> wo0f: maybe it will change still, dunno
[09:48] <anthronaut> zimba12: you're welcome :-)
[09:48] <zimba12> anthronaut: too much p2p-downloading yesterday
[09:48] <paolo_> hi. i see small characters  on the screen, since two days. how can i fix that?
[09:49] <genii> martijn81: It runs in the tray so that when new restricted drivers are issued it can prompt you whether you wish to use them or not
[09:49] <anthronaut> zimba12: the problem is, nobody'll tell you to keep some free space in the first place
[09:49] <gary_> hello can anyone help on an install
[09:49] <zimba12> anthronaut: anyway it should be nice a message in login page
[09:49] <gary_> i have sorce i have to compile from tar.gz
[09:49] <anthronaut> zimba12: well...
[09:50] <genii> martijn81: You can also run it manually by: restricted-manager
[09:50] <martijn81> genii: i see
[09:50] <zimba12> anthronaut: tnx again
[09:51] <gary_> can someone help me install a few apps im green to linux
[09:51] <gary_> a lil
[09:51] <zimba12> anthronaut: I'm coming back to my shiny kubuntu...
[09:51] <gary_> i am new to kubuntu
[09:51] <gary_> i used to use rpms
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> gary_: ok... what do you need to install?
[09:51] <gary_> not tar.gz
[09:51] <gary_> 3d desktop
[09:51] <anthronaut> zimba12: lol, glad to help
[09:52] <genii> martijn81: kdesu restricted-manager    sorry, forgot it needs admin privelege
[09:52] <gary_> and auto installer for tars
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> gary_: tehre is no autoinstaller for tars..
[09:52] <lnx_> how i can remove "open new tab" and "close tab" bottons from konq , and konsole ?
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> gary_: and 3d desktop can be gotten via Adept..
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> !beryl
[09:52] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> lnx_: edit the toolbar
[09:52] <gary_> yeah it configuer it from profile and auto installs
[09:52] <genii> gary_: The file manager will usually decide to decompress tar files into whatever there is inside when you choose them from there
[09:53] <gary_> i had it on my red hat system
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> well, i've never heard of it for Ubuntu.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist tho ;)
[09:53] <gary_> i downloaed the files there on the desktop
[09:53] <lnx_> nosrednaekim , i cant remove them fromm all kde programs "globally " ?
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> gary_: all the files for what?
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> lnx_: I don't think any other apps have those buttons..
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> lnx_: and probably not..
[09:54] <gary_> i have 3 tars on my desktop
[09:54] <gary_> whats do i do now
[09:54] <lnx_> nosrednaekim , kopete . . . konverse and other
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> gary_: e tars for what?
[09:54] <gary_> thre diffrent apps
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> lnx_: really? hmm.. well, I don't think you can... for to #kde ..
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> gary_: are you sure you can't get them from the official repositories?
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[09:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> !adept
[09:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:55] <gary_> 3d desktop /klmav-0/and targz. auto installer
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> gary_: all three can be installed from the repositories...
[09:56] <judgen> hmm my alsa output plugins stops working after a while..
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> gary_: upen up adept_manager
[09:56] <judgen> any ideas?
[09:56] <gary_> what is kompile soruce tar ball doo
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> judgen: output plugins?
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> gary_: compiles the source
[09:56] <gary_> oh ok
[09:57] <gary_> so i just point to it then right
[09:58] <nosrednaekim> point to it using what?
[09:58] <gary_> kompile in kde
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> oh... IDK... i've never used it :)
[09:59] <gary_> hmm
[09:59] <gary_> so i can use repository to install the app as long as i know what im looking for
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah..
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> even if you don't know what you are looking for :)
[10:00] <gary_> ok i will try that thank you very much for your help
[10:01] <nosrednaekim> its much easier that way.
[10:03] <paolo_> i have that : "the module monitor & display could not be loaded"  and small fonts on my desktop. how can i solve? thnks
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> paolo_: are you running XGL?
[10:04] <paolo_> nosrednaekim: no
[10:05] <paolo_> this happened after installing a wi-fi driver.
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> ah
[10:07] <paolo_> what should i do?
[10:08] <nosrednaekim> paolo_: for the fonts problem.... thats no in the monitor section
[10:12] <judgen> nosrednaekim: yes
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> judgen: try going to #alsa
[10:16] <judgen> nosrednaekim: i think it might be a confilict with pulseaudio
[10:21] <winbond> is there a way to compare 2 documents with kate?
[10:37] <CrypTom> hi all, since the upgrade to feisty, my kde changes to a square resolution (1024x1024) when I boot my laptop after having worked with an attached screen (using 1280x1024). Kdm correctly uses 1024x768, but after the login the resolution changes.
[10:37] <CrypTom> Is there a way the change this? Meaning using either 1280x1024 or 1024x768, and not 1024x1024
[10:39] <CrypTom> Because my external screen can and should display 1280x1024, but when using the laptop undocked it can only display 1024x768. So I dont like kde the change to 1024x1024 after login
[10:41] <jhutchins> CrypTom: Probably easiest to use krandrtray to resize when needed.
[10:42] <cael> i just found a bug w/ kubuntu's "PowerMac Screamer" driver (soundcard)
[10:43] <ScorpKing> hello everyone! :D
[10:43] <cael> when i plugin headphones to my imacs left front headphone port, no sound on headphones no sound on mac.
[10:43] <cael> plugin to right one sound comes to headphones but fails to mute the onboard speakers
[10:44] <CrypTom> jhutchins: oh, cool, thanks, much better than having to click through the menus
[10:45] <cael> i notice as well kubuntu is slower w/ certain pannels than other distros on this mac
[10:45] <cael> like ww/ package controllpannels (add/remove, adept manager)
[10:46] <jhutchins> cael: Might be loading more modules than other distros.
[10:46] <cael> its like actual system slowdowns
[10:50] <lnx_> when kubuntu gusty will be released iwll be able to upgrade to it from 7.04 withou to lose all the programs and settings that i have in 7.04 ?
[10:50] <seth> lnx_, indeed
[10:51] <jasmin_> i am doin a program in bash for simple intrest the proble is it only multiplies but no division si=`expr $p \* $n \* $r |bc`
[10:52] <erich_> what's a good gui program to copy .iso images of DVD's in Kubuntu?
[10:52] <rixon> k3b
[10:53] <erich_> k3b only burns .iso images to dvd's
[10:53] <rixon> you sure?
[10:53] <cael> is it safe to shrink the total partition size of my kubuntu install to make this imac dualboot OSX?
[10:53] <darkstar> yeah, i was just looking at it
[10:54] <darkstar> cael: yes
[10:54] <lnx_> seth , it will install gusty with kde 6 ?
[10:54] <lnx_> 4 * ** ?
[10:55] <cael> how can i make it then hide from osx, last oi had tried to install to a extrenal drive, osx kept warning about an unreconised file system (as osx cant read Linux partitions/filesystems)
[10:56] <darkstar> cael: you'll probably have to install osx first and then install linux after
[10:56] <jhutchins> lnx_: THat's not decided yet, it doesn't look like kde4 will be ready by the time gutsy's released.
[10:56] <cael> i installed linux after because installing yaboot was a major chore
[10:57] <jhutchins> lnx_: It will be available as an option, but kde 3.5.7 will probably be the kubuntu default.
[10:57] <darkstar> cael: i havn't used a mac since the old macontosh LC2 so i'm probably not the best person to ask
[10:57] <jhutchins> cael: Install the ext drivers for osx?
[10:57] <lnx_> jhutchins , so when kde 4 will be kubuntu default desktop ?
[10:57] <jhutchins> lnx_: Some time after they're finished beta testing it.
[10:58] <jhutchins> lnx_: Not all of it works yet, not all kde programs are ported, there are still bugs.
[10:58] <jhutchins> lnx_: Just 'cause it's a higher number doesn't mean you want it.
[10:58] <lnx_> yea know
[10:58] <darkstar> jhutchins: what's an easy gui program to use to create .iso images of dvd's? in ubuntu i could right click the media and do it but kubuntu doesn't give me that option
[10:58] <monchu> hola a todos
[10:58] <monchu> soy novato
[10:59] <lnx_> jhutchins , every "higher number" is better than the previous . . .
[10:59] <jhutchins> lnx_: No.  Not always.
[10:59] <jhutchins> DOS 4.0?
[10:59] <cael> umm exampe thats wrong. case in point
[10:59] <jhutchins> Not better than DOS 3.5.
[10:59] <cael> Winblows 98  / ME
[10:59] <monchu> algun espaol?
[10:59] <lnx_> jhutchins , yea afcours not alwyas but in kde yes
[11:00] <jhutchins> darkstar: I just use dd if=/dev/dvd of=<file>
[11:00] <jhutchins> lnx_: Not so far.
[11:00] <monchu> tengo problemas con el GXINE
[11:00] <jhutchins> lnx_: Repositories are available and are configured for parallel install, you're welcome to help test.
[11:00] <jhutchins> es! | monchu
[11:00] <monchu> gracies por t'o
[11:00] <darkstar> jhutchins: any file name will do?
[11:01] <jhutchins> darkstar: Yes.
[11:01] <jhutchins> darkstar: Although I suggest you make it meaningful and end in .iso.
[11:01] <jhutchins> darkstar: some versions of k3b will also rip iso's.
[11:02] <darkstar> jhutchins: i have the newest version of k3b
[11:03] <jhutchins> w/re previous thread, newer doesn't always mean more features.  the features are enabled in different releases of the same version depending on distributor - plugins and such.
[11:04] <dnorton> *problem* I can't get into password protected window's network shares
[11:04] <darkstar> jhutchins: ah, ok
[11:04] <neo_> lu
[11:05] <jhutchins> dnorton: are you a member of the workgroup?
[11:05] <jhutchins> dnorton: Do you have the correct accounts set up?
[11:06] <jhutchins> dnorton: REmember, you are either <network>
[11:06] <dnorton> I should be a member of the workgroup (how do I check?)
[11:06] <jhutchins> dnorton: REmember, you are either <network>\<username> or <machine>\<username>, not just <username>.
[11:07] <dnorton> when I go to enter another comp through konqueror, it throws a username and password request.
[11:08] <dnorton> It never goes through.
[11:09] <ScorpKing> dnorton: it must be an existing username and password that's on the windows box
[11:10] <dnorton> I think I'm using a username/password that is on the winbox.
[11:10] <lnx_> jhutchins , yea afcours not alwyas but in kde yes
[11:10] <lnx_> opsss sorry
[11:15] <ScorpKing> dnorton: it might be something on the windows box not letting you in. google for - password protect network shares in windows -  or something like that.
[11:16] <dnorton> scorpking: I am able to get into another machine like it that does ask for user/pass.
[11:17] <dnorton> scorpking: I have physical access to both, so I'll check for settings differences
[11:17] <ScorpKing> dnorton: then it's not linux
[11:24] <ScorpKing> i just got disconnected. was my msg about kopete posted?
[11:25] <ScorpKing> anyone?
[11:25] <DSOM> Hmm?
[11:25] <ScorpKing> lol. then i'll ask again. :)
[11:25] <ScorpKing> kopete keeps on crashing and i can't figure out why. it used to work fine untul now. when it does work i get messages from jabber (gtalk) but when i reply it sais "Message could not be delivered. Reason "". " how can i figure out what's wrong?
[11:35] <FroggyTheGreat> Heya.  Anyone here had experience compiling and running the cisco VPN client?
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[11:40] <ScorpKing> hello!
[11:40] <poison--> did u try to unistall it and reinstall?
[11:40] <poison--> i mean, kopete
[11:41] <poison--> and why do u use it for irc?
[11:41] <poison--> im luvin xChat
[11:41] <poison--> rox
[11:41] <ScorpKing> i recompiled it to work with mxit.co.za and it worked fine for about 3 weeks until these last few days. :(
[11:42] <poison--> lmao
[11:42] <ScorpKing> i'm using konversation for irc
[11:42] <poison--> programed to die
[11:42] <dekc> hi
[11:42] <dekc> can u help?
[11:42] <poison--> need xchat cause i use encrypton in a few chans
[11:42] <poison--> hi dekc
[11:42] <poison--> shoot
[11:43] <dekc> i can't hear sounds
[11:43] <dekc> after i change my pc
[11:43] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: Do you think that maybe the web server changed something and now the software can't connect? Microsoft does that now and then with MSN.
[11:43] <poison--> did u check if sound isnt muted?
[11:43] <dekc> but kept the hard
[11:43] <ScorpKing> poison--: lol. there is some problem with their custom ejabbert code. sends "available" instead of "show"
[11:43] <dekc> yes
[11:43] <dekc> wait
[11:43] <poison--> lol scorpio
[11:43] <dekc> it
[11:43] <dekc> works
[11:43] <dekc> with amarok
[11:43] <dekc> and kaffeine
[11:43] <poison--> lmao
[11:43] <dekc> but with XMMS
[11:43] <dekc> and vlc
[11:43] <dekc> or videogames no
[11:43] <poison--> dekc, do: alsamixer
[11:43] <poison--> at console
[11:44] <poison--> check if therenst sumtin muted
[11:44] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: don't think so. it useually work for aout two hours before it starts stuffing around.
[11:44] <poison--> hi genii
[11:44] <dekc> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[11:44] <dekc> ???
[11:44] <poison--> hummm
[11:44] <poison--> so youre not usin alsa :D
[11:44] <ScorpKing> helo genii :)
[11:44] <dekc> it worked
[11:44] <slackern> lol genii i only see you sip a cup of coffee whenever i look into this channel :)
[11:44] <poison--> no need, no beer last nite
[11:44] <dekc> with my old pc
[11:45] <poison--> but tomorrow.. omfg
[11:45] <poison--> lmao
[11:45] <dekc> and yes i'm using alsa
[11:45] <poison--> dekc, i bet u need to install some dependencies
[11:45] <genii> slackern: I do it every channel i'm in but here more, it's generally quieter
[11:45] <poison--> libsound and stuff
[11:45] <genii> ScorpKing: :)
[11:45] <dekc> alsamixer is kmix?
[11:45] <poison--> need beer today
[11:45] <poison--> damn hot
[11:45] <poison--> no dekc
[11:45] <slackern> genii: i might have seen you elsewhere too too many channels around to be sure :)
[11:45] <poison--> diferent things
[11:46] <arkard> Hi everybody!!!!!
[11:46] <dekc> but i'm sure i have alsa
[11:46] <dekc> cuz i selected
[11:47] <arkard> i really need an administrator
[11:47] <genii> slackern: My standard list is #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #kubuntu #kubuntu-offtopic    and sometimes #kubuntu-devel #ubuntu-server #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <dekc> and how do i know if i have alsamixer or not
[11:48] <dekc> cuz apt-get doesn't find it
[11:48] <dekc> ?
[11:48] <poison--> u dont have it
[11:48] <poison--> if u did, when u type alsamixer @console it opens
[11:48] <dekc> and can i install alsamixer^?
[11:48] <poison--> its a fresh install?
[11:48] <dekc> no
[11:48] <poison--> yes
[11:48] <dekc> i told u that i have an old hdd
[11:49] <dekc> and i only change the pc
[11:49] <poison--> "pc"?
[11:49] <dekc> all new
[11:49] <poison--> like.. u changed motherboard?
[11:49] <dekc> computer
[11:49] <dekc> yes
[11:49] <dekc> all
[11:49] <dekc> processor
[11:49] <poison--> almao
[11:49] <dekc> motherboard
[11:49] <poison--> dats why buddie
[11:49] <arkard> Help, i need an admin
[11:50] <poison--> u need to setup all to work with the new hardware
[11:50] <dekc> cuz i change the motherboard?
[11:50] <ScorpKing> !ask | arkard
[11:50] <ubotu> arkard: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:50] <poison--> yes, specially if u do dat
[11:50] <dekc> and how can i do that
[11:50] <poison--> the motherboard is a diferent model from the old one?
[11:50] <dekc> strange that amarok works
[11:50] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know if there's something I need to do with KVPNC to make it work with a cisco VPN that has one of these random-token keys that change every minute?
[11:50] <dekc> still asus but newer
[11:50] <dekc> i think with 5.1
[11:50] <dekc> but not sure
[11:50] <poison--> diferent model
[11:51] <arkard> I want to be the representant of Kubuntu in Nicaragua, how can i do that?
[11:51] <dekc> is there any command to see my motherboard?
[11:51] <poison--> think u cant arkard
[11:51] <arkard> poison, why not?
[11:52] <poison--> dekc, u can check the hardware
[11:52] <poison--> cause its free
[11:52] <arkard> poison, i mean, be an official site and IRC of Kubuntu in Nicaragua
[11:52] <dekc> how can i reconfigure it?
[11:53] <arkard> for example kubuntu-ni
[11:53] <poison--> but i guess u can try to contact the guys dat mantain it
[11:53] <poison--> ohhhh
[11:53] <ScorpKing> ah
[11:53] <poison--> u should add a # before :D
[11:53] <poison--> lmao
[11:53] <dekc> how can i reconfigure it?
[11:54] <poison--> damn... installing 230MB of games for my daughter
[11:54] <arkard> poison, how can i contact those guys?
[11:54] <poison--> lol
[11:54] <poison--> ahahahah genii
[11:54] <poison--> really dunno
[11:54] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone have experience here with VPNC?
[11:54] <poison--> no, sorry
[11:54] <ScorpKing> poison--: it sould be added to the bot as well to be of some use. will the channel close if he exit?
[11:54] <poison--> dekc, justa  sec
[11:54] <arkard> and tell me poison, do you know how to request a channel in freenode?
[11:54] <dekc> k
[11:55] <poison--> arkard, dunno if freenode really manages the chans
[11:55] <arkard> really thanks for your help poison
[11:55] <ScorpKing> arkard: just type /join kubuntu-ni and it will create a channel but you'll be the only one there.
[11:56] <arkard> ill go to to find how
[11:56] <arkard> Cya guys
[11:56] <ScorpKing> bey
[11:56] <ceg23349> How do I install the GNOME library files?  Do I just dl them and save them in some "Windows/System32"-like directory?
[11:56] <poison--> dekc: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide
[11:57] <poison--> wow
[11:57] <ceg23349> Did I ask something dumb?
[11:57] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone have experience here with VPNC?
[11:57] <jon__> is there a channel for virtualbox?
[11:57] <dekc> don't load the page
[11:57] <poison--> no, its all about the other doode
[11:57] <poison--> humm
[11:57] <poison--> sec
[11:58] <poison--> dekc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[11:58] <poison--> hope dat one works
[11:58] <poison--> !sound
[11:58] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:59] <poison--> woot
[11:59] <ceg23349> !library
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about library - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <poison--> goin home
[11:59] <poison--> l8r guys
[11:59] <ceg23349> !API
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <ceg23349> !Meaning_of_life
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meaning_of_life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <ceg23349> damn....
[11:59] <ScorpKing> !windows | ceg23349
[11:59] <ubotu> ceg23349: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:59] <dekc> !alsamixer
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:59] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:00] <Roey> hi
[12:00] <Roey> I have a Logitech mouse.  I'm trying to use it with KDM, but I need to be able to use xbindkeys in order to get the buttons working right.   So I put the line in my .xsession but it still doesn't work.  When I use the -v (verbose) flag for  xbindkeys -v -f .xbindkeys.rc, I see this error:  http://rafb.net/p/K8ZVeL99.html.  What does that mean!?!
[12:00] <ceg23349> ScorpKing rofl
[12:01] <dekc> with aplay -l
[12:01] <dekc> scheda 1: default [PnP Audio Device
[12:01] <ScorpKing> ceg23349: there is a big difference between linux and windows. google a bit and read those links. it will help a lot to get an idea of how linux works.
[12:01] <ScorpKing> ceg23349: i'll see if i can get you a few links. :)
[12:03] <ceg23349> scorpking: Alright then, that I will certainly do... But as for a specific question, I couldn't just take a library file and drop it in some directory somewhere and call it usable?
[12:03] <ScorpKing> ceg23349: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[12:04] <mneptok> ceg23349: what are you trying to *do*?
[12:05] <ceg23349> I heard that the GNOME apps use a different set of library files (dll's in windows if I'm not mistaken... of course I probably am) than the KDE ones, and I was wondering if I could put the GNOME ones in Kubuntu in such a way as to make them work
[12:06] <mneptok> ceg23349: uhhh ... that's completely irrelevant in *Ubuntu
[12:06] <mneptok> ceg23349: what GNOME app do you want?
[12:07] <sourcemaker> how can I improve the performance of my kubuntu system?which services can be stopped?
[12:07] <ceg23349> mneptok: I actually plan on doing it the other way around on another machine; trying to use Amarok on my laptop which has Ubuntu but is currently out of battery
[12:07] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:07] <mneptok> done.
[12:08] <jhutchins> ceg23349: Yes, there are seperate sets of common libraries for gonme and for kubuntu.  If you install an apt using apt/dpkg, it should install the libraries it needs.
[12:08] <jhutchins> ceg23349: KDE does a much better job of using shared loaded libraries for more efficiency.
[12:09] <ceg23349> I see.  Just as easy as that then.  Thanks all.
[12:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know where in VPNC I'd go to force it to resolve an address through the VPN, rather than trying through google search automatically?
[12:11] <ceg23349> jhutchins so... would a KDE app run noticeably slower on GNOME?
[12:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know where in VPNC I'd go to force it to resolve an address through the VPN, rather than trying through google search automatically?
[12:14] <ceg23349> wait... I think I understand what you were saying... and it just happens to not be what I thought it was when I started talking up there.  So yeah...  Gonna log and try some shit.
[12:16] <jhutchins> ceg23349: No.
[12:16] <jhutchins> ceg23349: It might initally load a little slower, but that would presume that other Gnome apps had already loaded the required libraries, and Gnome is nowhere near as good at that.
[12:17] <sirvico> help
[12:17] <sirvico> /help
[12:17] <sirvico> bueno, ser que todos aqu slo hablan ingls
[12:17] <LjL> !es
[12:17] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:17] <jhutchins> KDE as a native environment pre-loads some of the libraries.  XFCE also has an option to pre-load the main kde libs.
[12:17] <sirvico> ok, cmo lo hago
[12:17] <sirvico> soy newbie
[12:17] <sirvico> novato
[12:18] <sirvico> en esto de linux
[12:18] <LjL> sirvico: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[12:18] <sirvico> gracias
[12:19] <LjL> sirvico: y pone alguna pregunta all, ningun te podr ayudar si solo dices "help" :P
[12:20] <ceg23349> jhutchins Ah, I see.  So it would only be a minor performance hit and only in certain situations?
[12:22] <sirvico> gracias Ljl, solo quera saber los comandos del IRC
[12:22] <jhutchins> Right, just like loading any new program that didn't have the required libraries pre-loaded.
[12:22] <jhutchins> ceg23349: Generally gnome apps work as well under kde as under gnome; kde apps take a bit more of a hit under gnome.
[12:23] <jhutchins> ceg23349: recent benchmarks - and these things change constantly - show that KDE is more ram/cpu/disk I/O efficient in general.
[12:24] <wesley> hello i get after i wanna install a tarball and it ask my pasword i typ right in and say su: Authentication failure. How can is solve this?
[12:24] <mneptok> wesley: what command are you typing?
[12:24] <mneptok> and what is this tarball?
[12:24] <wesley> kbfx
[12:25] <mneptok> !info kbfx
[12:25] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[12:25] <wesley> http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/637/schermafdruk50gf5.jpg
[12:25] <mneptok> is there a reason you're not using the repo?
[12:25] <wesley> yes that one is out of date and i am 64 bit user
[12:25] <ceg23349> jhutchins: I see.  Sounds enough like the PC hardware/software tech races I'm used to seeing ;)
[12:26] <mneptok> wesley: so you're going to install a version precompiled by some dude on the Internet?
[12:27] <LjL> well it certainly must have been made with all the due care if it's so smart as to call "su" for you
[12:27] <mneptok> heeeeeeeehe
[12:27] <mneptok> if you don't know how to diagnose an su issue, you probbaly should not be using su
[12:27] <wesley> yes the tarball
[12:28] <wesley> http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/637/schermafdruk50gf5.jpg
[12:29] <genii> mneptok: My thought also which you voiced so eloquently
[12:29] <wesley> it ask if i wanna install as root of normal user i need to say root
[12:29] <LjL> wesley: except that tarball is so stupid that it doesn't consider the fact that one might have the root account locked.
[12:29] <LjL> ditch it
[12:31] <wesley> i can succeed but its a problem i get all the time
[12:31] <wesley> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8866/schermafdruk51zq4.jpg
[12:31] <LjL> of course... because you can't use "su" on ubuntu
[12:31] <LjL> !sudo
[12:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:32] <wesley> i know about sudo but this one makes su from it
[12:32] <LjL> because it's braindead, ye
[12:32] <LjL> s
[12:32] <LjL> which is why i said ditch it
[12:33] <ceg23349> Perhaps this is not so much a technical question, but is it common for there to be IRC rooms with 300+ users where only like two of them talk?
[12:33] <LjL> find a proper ubuntu package if you can, or wait if you can't. or at the very least, compile from source from a sane tarball
[12:33] <wesley> it with most tarbals
[12:34] <LjL> ceg23349: about as much as it's common to have rooms with 1000+ users there where only about 20 most talk (#ubuntu)
[12:34] <LjL> wesley: "most tarballs" don't try to run "su" for you
[12:34] <LjL> so i don't know what tarballs you've been using
[12:34] <LjL> but you shouldn't have
[12:34] <ceg23349> so.... the ratios stay about the same xD.
[12:35] <wesley> i use kate for termimal most times
[12:35] <LjL> ceg23349: keep in mind this channel is joined by default when you're using the irc client that comes with kubuntu
[12:35] <ceg23349> yeah... that would be how I found it :D
[12:35] <Karti> Hi all, looking at learning databases and have a LAMP server up and running. Would people recommend that I use the MySQL and learn databases that way or should I go with the free Oracle download? All ideas welcome ;)
[12:35] <wesley> i going try a root shell
[12:36] <LjL> wesley: good luck, have a good time re-installing
[12:36] <ceg23349> karti: Sudden;y my brain hurts....
[12:36] <LjL> Karti, not sure why you should use proprietary software when several open source alternatives are available. even assuming they're inferior... if you're *learning* they should be fine
[12:36] <Karti> ceg23349: Ah one of those nights eh!
[12:36] <LjL> but i suggest you try PostgreSQL first
[12:37] <LjL> much more compliant with the SQL standard
[12:37] <wesley_> sometimes there no amd64
[12:37] <Karti> LjL, its the 600 a day as an Oracle DBA that might sway me ;)
[12:37] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know which kde app mimics Windows's Remote Desktop Connection app?
[12:37] <LjL> wesley_: which is why most people who aren't familiar with compiling stuff install the i386 version rather than amd64
[12:37] <genii> FroggyTheGreat: krdc
[12:38] <FroggyTheGreat> Oh.
[12:38] <FroggyTheGreat> Been trying that and ht's not been able to find the servers.  Hmm.
[12:38] <LjL> Karti, SQL is SQL is SQL. learn that first (hopefully using a free DBMS), then you can learn about the Oracle extensions later if you wish
[12:38] <Karti> LjL: Happy with that.....cheers
[12:39] <ScorpKing> FroggyTheGreat: i seem to have the same problem with krdc. :(