| bdmurray | dieguito: Have you tried using the development release of Ubuntu? | 12:52 |
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| dieguito | not yet, latest cd I have is 7.04, I tried with other distros and all of them using libata share the problem | 12:54 |
| dieguito | worth mentioning among those Arch linux which has kernel 2.6.22 | 12:54 |
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| sirpan | hola tengo problemas con ubuntu 7.04 kernel 2.6.20-16-generic y nvidia.. alguna solucion? | 01:22 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Hm. TIFM in the core kernel needs to be disabled in order to use the one in l-u-m. | 02:27 |
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| calc | seems my audio stopped working on gutsy at some point it is intel hda with realtek 888 | 03:36 |
| johanbr | calc: If it's a kernel problem, it should work if you go back to a previous kernel. | 03:37 |
| calc | oh i figured out the issue | 03:38 |
| calc | it changed how it works for which audio port to increase volume | 03:38 |
| calc | it claims it is the surround port now | 03:38 |
| johanbr | Oh, okay. So there have been patches to the hda driver this late in the game? | 03:40 |
| calc | not sure when it happened i haven't been using audio on my desktop in a while | 03:41 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hm. I suspect that the ACPI oopses on boot on some machines might be my fault | 04:09 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Looking into that | 04:09 |
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| mjg59 | This is confusing me to an excessive degree | 04:46 |
| mjg59 | I've made no substantive changes, but it seems to boot now | 04:47 |
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| sud0 | can anyone help with compiling using older kernel headers? | 06:18 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, I got a question, why is CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL option not set anymore ? | 08:50 |
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| AnAnt | it was enabled in 2.6.22-8 | 08:50 |
| AnAnt | but in the current version it is disabled | 08:50 |
| AnAnt | is there a reason for this ? | 08:50 |
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| RAOF | AnAnt: Didn't hda_intel get moved to linux-ubuntu-modules for ease of out-of-kernel updates? | 08:52 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: dunno | 08:52 |
| john_ | can any one shed some light on the dmi_string:out of memory error that appears on startup. also have kernal alive error but one problem at a time as i am a NEWBIE | 08:52 |
| john_ | was ok on 32 bit ubunto but moved over to 64 bit | 08:53 |
| john_ | running a duo core intel chip | 08:53 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: what I know is that hsfmodem doesn't compile the HDA modules because of this option being not set | 08:54 |
| kraut | moin | 08:55 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: Yup, it's in l-u-m. | 08:55 |
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| AnAnt | RAOF: what do you mean by "ease of out-of-kernel updates" ? | 08:59 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: I'm in no way authorititive, but it seems that hda_intel was taken out of the kernel and put into l-u-m so that l-u-m could track upstream ALSA more closely. | 09:00 |
| AnAnt | ok | 09:01 |
| RAOF | Rather than waiting for ALSA -> vanilla kernel -> Ubuntu. | 09:01 |
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| Whoopie | BenC: Hi, could you consider adding the ipw2100/2200 power management fixes? it's bug 136357 | 09:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 136357 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ipw2*00: please backport fixes for power management commands" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136357 | 09:49 |
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| amitk | Whoopie: the patches look sane. I will push in the changes | 11:30 |
| Whoopie | amitk: thanks a lot. | 11:52 |
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| DexterF | hi | 01:08 |
| DexterF | are the feisty/gutsy kernels patched in regards to the usb system somehow? | 01:08 |
| DexterF | got a cheap usb hub here, works fien in etch, slack, windows, on two other machines, too. only ubuntu screws up when I attach it. usb-dvb-t box stops responding and so does a card reader | 01:12 |
| amitk | DexterF: the core usb subsystem is what is in mainline 2.6.22 | 01:15 |
| amitk | DexterF: filing a bug with details of your devices would help in tracking down the problem | 01:15 |
| DexterF | amitk: sure, only wanted to check usb isn't patched beforehand | 01:16 |
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| StevenK | Hey guys, I worked to get virtualbox-ose into Gutsy, which requires a kernel module to work, and it looks like a candidate for ubuntu-kernel-modules to include for i386/amd64, but virtualbox-ose-source (which is the source of the modules) is in universe, so I'm looking for suggestions. | 02:18 |
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| zul | StevenK: I think including the virtualbox in feisty caused too many problems last time around so thats why they werent probably not included this time around but ask someone like BenC | 02:20 |
| StevenK | virtualbox wasn't in Feisty - surely that was vmware? | 02:21 |
| zul | yeah it was | 02:21 |
| zul | im sure of it or I need more caffine | 02:21 |
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| lamont | BenC: sigh. -11.34 ftbfs on hppa with missing module sha256... wanna reenable all the crypto modules, or shall I do a test build or 3 and make a known-good patch for -11.35? | 02:32 |
| BenC | lamont: test build please | 02:34 |
| lamont | BenC: will do | 02:35 |
| amitk | BenC: I am going to push 1pw2x00 power management fixes soon. Testing now. When are you uploading? | 02:59 |
| amitk | s/1pw/ipw | 02:59 |
| zul | BenC: can we get xen amd64 added to lum and meta as well? | 03:00 |
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| lamont | BenC: where is it deciding that sha256 is missing... it's not in modules.hppa64... | 03:17 |
| lamont | ah... sounds like debian/d-i/modules/crypto-modules is to blame, maybe? | 03:18 |
| lamont | someone remind me what the updateconfigs target is? | 03:24 |
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| amitk | debian/rules updateconfigs? | 03:29 |
| amitk | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance | 03:29 |
| amitk | lamont: updateconfigs is runn for all flavours in all architectures | 03:30 |
| rtg | amitk: Do you think your recent commits will have any effect on bug ##139171 ? | 03:31 |
| rtg | hello ubuntoid? bug #139171 | 03:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139171 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "ipw2200 regression in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139171 | 03:32 |
| zul | rtg: that one looks more like a network-manager problem | 03:33 |
| rtg | zul: Except for 'ipw2200: Firmware error detected.'. amitk's patch mentions causing firmware errors. | 03:34 |
| Mithrandir | pkl_: what's the status of the new lum with fixed unionfs? | 03:35 |
| pkl_ | Mithrandir: the unionfs fixes are in git. I don't know if BenC has done an upload yet. | 03:36 |
| Mithrandir | ok, I'll pester him then. Thanks a lot for fixing the problem though! :-) | 03:37 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: if you could tell me what the status of new lum is, that'd be great. | 03:39 |
| amitk | rtg: any effect will be unintentional. I looked at the patch from the point of view of getting 'iwpriv set_power' fixed | 03:41 |
| lamont | BenC: test build running now, eta 2 hours or so. :( patch in git (lamont/hppa-ia64.git that probably fixes things if you happen to be doing -11.35 before the build finishes) | 03:42 |
| Whoopie | amitk: btw, do you know why the history function for gitweb doesn't work? | 03:43 |
| lamont | Whoopie: one guess would be the rebasing that happens | 03:43 |
| Whoopie | lamont: sorry, could you explain more? | 03:44 |
| lamont | Whoopie: how does it "doesn't work"? | 03:45 |
| Whoopie | lamont: history is empty. e.g. in Linus' tree, I can see the whole history of each file. | 03:45 |
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| Whoopie | lamont: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git;a=history;h=d0ecf29b6abcd567121e63aa43f06e7c587d89e7;f=drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.c | 03:47 |
| Whoopie | lamont: just an example, it should show the latest patch which amitk commited. | 03:47 |
| lamont | good question | 03:47 |
| lamont | git log on the file shows the right stuff - so I'd wager it's gitweb having fits | 03:48 |
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| bdmurray | mjg59: A bit ago we talked about bug 91056 and I thought you mentioned you would have to think about it. Am I recalling things correctly? | 05:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 91056 in xkeyboard-config "[Feisty] synaptic keypad lock button launches KDE or Gnome Help Center" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91056 | 05:53 |
| mjg59 | bdmurray: Yeah | 05:55 |
| mjg59 | I can reproduce it on my new system, so I'll try to figure it out | 05:56 |
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| bdmurray | Okay, I thought you said something about it sending a keypress even on release. | 05:56 |
| bdmurray | s/even/event/ | 05:56 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, that's what I see | 05:59 |
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| lamont | BenC: patch committed in lamont/hppa-ia64.git confirmed good. Please grab it. | 06:28 |
| lamont | 5f73606476035c5dfc5166d94f1ca48e42fe13a4 | 06:28 |
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| dieguito | dear kernel hackers, may I once again steal some seconds of your attention so you fix the makefile that is leaving r818x.ko out of kernel packages: lp bug #129407 ? | 06:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 129407 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "r818x.ko missing in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-8-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129407 | 06:33 |
| rtg | dieguito: I put it in Gutsy lum yesterday. | 06:34 |
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| dieguito | i'll try to update now | 06:34 |
| rtg | dieguito: It hasn't hit the archive yet. Maybe by tomorrow. | 06:35 |
| dieguito | awww, well i'll keep an eye | 06:35 |
| rtg | dieguito: incidentally, its going to be called rtl_8180.ko in order to clearly distinguish it from rtl818x. | 06:36 |
| dieguito | which version is the one i'm waiting for? | 06:40 |
| rtg | dieguito: it depends on your device. Look in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=blob;h=b548f172c049814fd3b11c128eb8c066c27f6825;hb=c1b118eaae96119089a567ff175109f661c6f149;f=ubuntu/wireless/rtl8180/rtl8180/r8180_core.c for rtl8180_pci_id_tbl[] to see if your device is supported. | 06:44 |
| dieguito | I mean the ubuntu package that is including the driver, I already know it works with my card, I was using that before | 06:45 |
| dieguito | I even had to compile it's 10 different incarnations when ubuntu lost the module, i ended using ndiswrapper | 06:45 |
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| rtg | dieguito: I'm not sure what you are asking. rtl8180 will appear in linux-ubuntu-modules, which you will get as part of the normal update process. | 06:50 |
| dieguito | i mean, which is the version of the ubuntu package | 06:50 |
| dieguito | the version that includes the previously missing driver | 06:50 |
| dieguito | linux-ubuntu-modules 2.6.22.what | 06:51 |
| rtg | dieguito: It looks like the kernel upload is forcing an ABI bump, so lum will be 2.6.22-12.1 | 06:52 |
| dieguito | yeah that :) | 06:52 |
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| dieguito | thank you rtg :) | 06:57 |
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| bigjools | hey folks, are there any plans to upgrade alsa further in gutsy? (to fix https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/131133) | 06:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 131133 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy] no sound on Dell Latitude D630/D830/Precision M4300 pci id 8086:284b" [Medium,Triaged] | 06:58 |
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| mjg59 | rtg: http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page seems to have a more up-to-date rtl8180 | 07:14 |
| rtg | mjg59: I'll lok. | 07:14 |
| rtg | s/lok/look/ | 07:14 |
| rtg | mjg59: Did you get a change to test? | 07:15 |
| rtg | s/change/chance/ | 07:15 |
| rtg | can't type today. | 07:15 |
| mjg59 | Afraid not - I should be able to get a tester once we have images that fit on a CD again | 07:15 |
| rtg | mjg59: I've been building Live CD images on USB sticks. | 07:16 |
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| Mithrandir | DVDs generally also work. | 07:23 |
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| mjg59 | rtg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/74672 - I suspect that'll still be an issue with the forward port? | 07:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 74672 in linux-source-2.6.20 "ESSID gets truncated" [Medium,Confirmed] | 07:31 |
| rtg | mjg59: Yep. I'll patch lum, but its already missed the upload. | 07:35 |
| mjg59 | Ok, no problem | 07:35 |
| dieguito_ | that rtl-wifi version of the driver works, if that's useful to know | 07:38 |
| rtg | dieguito_: Good. That is the first positive confirmation. get that mjg59? | 07:38 |
| mjg59 | Yup | 07:39 |
| dieguito_ | well, it works but you *have* to make it work | 07:39 |
| dieguito_ | and if I recall correctly, it suffers from the hangs ubuntu's version had. I would have to test again. | 07:39 |
| Krystof | maybe someone who's better at searching launchpad than I am can find it, but there is at least one extended discussion about the r818x driver where the deadlocks are discussed and a possible patch advanced in one of the bug reports about freezes on network changes or large data rates (with that driver) | 07:41 |
| dieguito_ | yes it's somewhere around | 07:41 |
| dieguito_ | lp bug #77152 is also related to 818x hardware | 07:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 77152 in ndiswrapper "Can't upload files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77152 | 07:43 |
| dieguito_ | (and I'm suffering it right now) | 07:43 |
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| dieguito_ | you may also want to close this lp bug #22689 since it seems to be about the old driver version | 07:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 22689 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Wi-Fi PCMCIA card fails association until CTRL+C is pressed." [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22689 | 07:45 |
| dieguito_ | and the freeze bug is lp bug #31857, this one is a dupe of the essid truncate one lp bug #33714 and mark lp bug #45146 as dupe of #31857 | 07:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 31857 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x driver freezes randomly" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31857 | 07:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 33714 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x not working" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33714 | 07:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 45146 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Hard lockup using realtek wireless since 2.6.15-22 " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45146 | 07:47 |
| dieguito_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=r818x&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= | 07:49 |
| dieguito_ | (sorry about all that text) | 07:49 |
| Krystof | 31857 is the one I was thinking of | 07:51 |
| Krystof | as in, it has some useful discussion | 07:51 |
| Krystof | (the patch that I have seen somewhere is to remove the lock_irqsave/unlock_irqrestore in that function; I doubt it's correct, but it probably deals with the immediate symptoms) | 07:53 |
| dieguito_ | right now, the problems with the r818x thing are: locks when uploading files or doing lot of stuff via wifi, no multicast support, truncated essid names, no accurate signal strength | 07:54 |
| Krystof | the locks can be worked around by using a -386 kernel, too | 07:56 |
| rtg | mjg59: I'm liking the driver at http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net. Maybe I can dump the rtl softmac and encryption hacks in favor of the in-kernel versions. | 08:04 |
| rtg | Wish I'd have found this one first before porting the Feisty mess. | 08:05 |
| Nafallo | wow. | 08:07 |
| Nafallo | nice URL ;-) | 08:07 |
| Nafallo | mjg59: hi mate, around? | 08:19 |
| mjg59 | Nafallo: Hi | 08:19 |
| Nafallo | mjg59: if I was sick of dell and consider buying a lenovo. which one would be a good choice if you know of hand? | 08:20 |
| mjg59 | Nothing in the 3000 range | 08:21 |
| Nafallo | mjg59: dell wants one and a half month to deliver a D630, so screw them ;-) | 08:21 |
| Nafallo | mjg59: oki, thinkpad it is. more specific or are those all good ones? :-) | 08:21 |
| mjg59 | Depends what you're looking for | 08:22 |
| mjg59 | They should all work fairly similarly | 08:22 |
| mjg59 | Though I've only direct experience of the T61 | 08:22 |
| Nafallo | basically something to pick with me out on the datacenters if need be, but also sitting home and from time to time compiling stuff. | 08:23 |
| Nafallo | basically. | 08:23 |
| Nafallo | X is to damn small I think. how is the T-series? | 08:23 |
| mjg59 | Fine | 08:26 |
| mjg59 | I think the 42/43 were nicer, but they're still very competent | 08:26 |
| Nafallo | kewl. I'll probably end up with that then. thank you so much! :-) | 08:26 |
| bullgard4 | How can I read out the ECDT? | 08:28 |
| mjg59 | acpidump | 08:28 |
| bullgard4 | sudo acpidump outputs DSDT, FACS, FACP, APIC, BOOT, MCFG, SSDT RSDT, RSD, PTR but no ECDT. (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15169/) | 08:46 |
| bullgard4 | /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/info contains: "gpe: 0x17; ports: 0x66, 0x62; use global lock: no". | 08:49 |
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| jetsaredim | is it possible/likely to get an updated version of vmware-server-kernel-modules for gutsy in the near future? | 09:45 |
| jetsaredim | or - better yet - is there a way for me to be able to build the module for my system? | 09:53 |
| kylem | hmm. you raise a good question. | 09:57 |
| jetsaredim | which? | 09:57 |
| kylem | where did the vmware modules go? | 09:58 |
| kylem | they're still in the source package, heh. | 09:58 |
| jetsaredim | there is also bug 120332 | 09:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 120332 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "vmware-player-kernel-modules not available for Gutsy kernel 2.6.22 (dup-of: 124775)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120332 | 09:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 124775 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "No kernel modules for the 2.6.22 kernel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124775 | 09:58 |
| kylem | and feisty. | 09:58 |
| jetsaredim | i know its a good question - that's why i asked it :) | 10:02 |
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| rtg | kylem: Does bug #141298 make any sense to you? These are Intel graphics platforms. | 10:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 141298 in dell "Intel video card 8086:2a02 blacklisted, can't run compiz" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141298 | 10:39 |
| bullgard4 | I downloaded the DEB program package pmtools and installed it. But 'apropos acpidisasm' cannot find anything suitable. How to diassemble the DSDT? | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | rtg: Yes, that's deliberate | 10:41 |
| mjg59 | 965 doesn't support Xv with composite | 10:42 |
| rtg | mjg59: I guess I don't understand enough about compiz and Xv. | 10:42 |
| mjg59 | XAA + composite = no video on 965 | 10:42 |
| mjg59 | Which is awkward | 10:43 |
| rtg | mjg59: This is something Jose used to be able to do. e.g., compiz --replace to fix fubar'd compiz after saving his session. | 10:44 |
| mjg59 | Right. Compiz will now not run on 965. | 10:45 |
| rtg | mjg59: Does that mean no 3D effects? | 10:46 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 10:47 |
| rtg | mjg59: Can you point me to some info or rationale for this? I need to wrap my head around it 'cause Jose is gonna have a cow. | 10:48 |
| Keybuk | rtg: i965 doesn't support the necessary pieces for video to work without using EXA | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | so you can have whizz-bang 3D effects, but no porn | 10:51 |
| mjg59 | rtg: The -intel driver doesn't support accelerated video playback when using a composited desktop unless you're using the EXA acceleration architecture, which we aren't | 10:51 |
| mjg59 | Video playback is more important than desktop effects | 10:51 |
| rtg | So, this is really a feature :) | 10:52 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 10:52 |
| JanC | mjg59: I'm sure a computer with a 965 can easily play video with compiz enabled, but without using Xv ? | 10:58 |
| mjg59 | JanC: In HD? No. | 10:59 |
| JanC | well, most porn isn't in HD I guess? :P | 11:00 |
| bdmurray | bug 141082 might need some attention | 11:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 141082 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Only one CPU core recognized in Gutsy after updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141082 | 11:15 |
| JanC | well, at least I can play DVDs on my 1.33 GHz Core Duo laptop with 945 graphics, without using Xv (and while using compiz...) | 11:19 |
| jetsaredim | i'm running that kernel on my pentium d and i can see both cores | 11:20 |
| mjg59 | Anyway, there's no decent way of autodetecting whether to use Xv or not | 11:20 |
| rtg | bdmurray: read the followup. He was running the 386 (UP) kernel. | 11:20 |
| rtg | bdmurray: never mind. brain damage. | 11:22 |
| bdmurray | rtg: That is one out of 4 commentors | 11:22 |
| kylem | i suspect he doesn't have an mpbios and as such, without acpi there's no hope of finding the other cpu | 11:24 |
| mjg59 | Yeah. You're not going to get more than one processor on any modern machine unless booting with acpi | 11:25 |
| bdmurray | What is this commentor's issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/141082/comments/5 | 11:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 141082 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Only one CPU core recognized in Gutsy after updates" [High,Triaged] | 11:26 |
| kylem | [ 5.324000] CPU #1 not responding - cannot use it. | 11:27 |
| mjg59 | bdmurray: That's clearly a different bug to the filed one | 11:28 |
| bdmurray | hrm, its too bad comments aren't movable then | 11:29 |
| mjg59 | rtg: I suspect someone's going to have to manage Jose's expectations. Gutsy will not be shipping with compiz on 965. | 12:34 |
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