[12:52] dieguito: Have you tried using the development release of Ubuntu? [12:54] not yet, latest cd I have is 7.04, I tried with other distros and all of them using libata share the problem [12:54] worth mentioning among those Arch linux which has kernel 2.6.22 === Krystof [n=csr21@84-51-132-95.christ977.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sirpan [n=sirpan@host98.201-252-115.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sirpan [n=sirpan@host98.201-252-115.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:22] hola tengo problemas con ubuntu 7.04 kernel 2.6.20-16-generic y nvidia.. alguna solucion? === l_ [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:27] BenC: Hm. TIFM in the core kernel needs to be disabled in order to use the one in l-u-m. === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-105-82.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:36] seems my audio stopped working on gutsy at some point it is intel hda with realtek 888 [03:37] calc: If it's a kernel problem, it should work if you go back to a previous kernel. [03:38] oh i figured out the issue [03:38] it changed how it works for which audio port to increase volume [03:38] it claims it is the surround port now [03:40] Oh, okay. So there have been patches to the hda driver this late in the game? [03:41] not sure when it happened i haven't been using audio on my desktop in a while [04:09] BenC: Hm. I suspect that the ACPI oopses on boot on some machines might be my fault [04:09] BenC: Looking into that === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pkl_ [n=phillip@unaffiliated/pkl/x-764568] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === OldKid [n=oldi@fresno121.webperoni.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.100] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === n0u [n=Chaton@unaffiliated/nou] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dopez [n=unknown@unaffiliated/dopez] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AndyP [n=andyp@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kraut [i=kraut@blackhole.packetloss.biz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === \sh_away [n=nnsherma@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Traxer [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === maswan [i=maswan@kennedy.acc.umu.se] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:46] This is confusing me to an excessive degree [04:47] I've made no substantive changes, but it seems to boot now === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF15EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defendguin [n=justin@ip5-155.tvmax-fiber-1.hou.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sud0 [n=sud0@node225.195.100.208.1dial.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:18] can anyone help with compiling using older kernel headers? === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.224.148] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-061-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === defendguin_ [n=justin@ip5-155.tvmax-fiber-1.hou.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@212.103.157.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === n2diy [n=darryl@wlk-barre-208-103-148-20.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AnAnt [n=anant@196.205.22.58] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:50] Hello, I got a question, why is CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL option not set anymore ? === john_ [n=john@219-89-54-14.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:50] it was enabled in 2.6.22-8 [08:50] but in the current version it is disabled [08:50] is there a reason for this ? === Krystof [n=csr21@84-51-132-95.christ977.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:52] AnAnt: Didn't hda_intel get moved to linux-ubuntu-modules for ease of out-of-kernel updates? [08:52] RAOF: dunno [08:52] can any one shed some light on the dmi_string:out of memory error that appears on startup. also have kernal alive error but one problem at a time as i am a NEWBIE [08:53] was ok on 32 bit ubunto but moved over to 64 bit [08:53] running a duo core intel chip [08:54] RAOF: what I know is that hsfmodem doesn't compile the HDA modules because of this option being not set [08:55] moin [08:55] AnAnt: Yup, it's in l-u-m. === derjohn [n=derjohn@80.69.41.3] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:59] RAOF: what do you mean by "ease of out-of-kernel updates" ? [09:00] AnAnt: I'm in no way authorititive, but it seems that hda_intel was taken out of the kernel and put into l-u-m so that l-u-m could track upstream ALSA more closely. [09:01] ok [09:01] Rather than waiting for ALSA -> vanilla kernel -> Ubuntu. === Lure [n=lure@212.103.157.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Whoopie [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:49] BenC: Hi, could you consider adding the ipw2100/2200 power management fixes? it's bug 136357 [09:49] Launchpad bug 136357 in linux-source-2.6.22 "ipw2*00: please backport fixes for power management commands" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136357 === AnAnt [n=anant@196.205.22.58] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === doko [n=doko@161.116.111.2] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [i=csr21@158.223.59.95] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cofeineSunshine_ [n=justinas@omega.vic.lt] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.197.92] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:30] Whoopie: the patches look sane. I will push in the changes [11:52] amitk: thanks a lot. === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.197.92] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [n=doko@161.116.111.2] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === DexterF [n=dexter@ip76.132.1511H-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:08] hi [01:08] are the feisty/gutsy kernels patched in regards to the usb system somehow? [01:12] got a cheap usb hub here, works fien in etch, slack, windows, on two other machines, too. only ubuntu screws up when I attach it. usb-dvb-t box stops responding and so does a card reader [01:15] DexterF: the core usb subsystem is what is in mainline 2.6.22 [01:15] DexterF: filing a bug with details of your devices would help in tracking down the problem [01:16] amitk: sure, only wanted to check usb isn't patched beforehand === doko [n=doko@161.116.111.12] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:18] Hey guys, I worked to get virtualbox-ose into Gutsy, which requires a kernel module to work, and it looks like a candidate for ubuntu-kernel-modules to include for i386/amd64, but virtualbox-ose-source (which is the source of the modules) is in universe, so I'm looking for suggestions. === DexterF [n=dexter@ip76.132.1511H-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["I] [02:20] StevenK: I think including the virtualbox in feisty caused too many problems last time around so thats why they werent probably not included this time around but ask someone like BenC [02:21] virtualbox wasn't in Feisty - surely that was vmware? [02:21] yeah it was [02:21] im sure of it or I need more caffine === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:32] BenC: sigh. -11.34 ftbfs on hppa with missing module sha256... wanna reenable all the crypto modules, or shall I do a test build or 3 and make a known-good patch for -11.35? [02:34] lamont: test build please [02:35] BenC: will do [02:59] BenC: I am going to push 1pw2x00 power management fixes soon. Testing now. When are you uploading? [02:59] s/1pw/ipw [03:00] BenC: can we get xen amd64 added to lum and meta as well? === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:17] BenC: where is it deciding that sha256 is missing... it's not in modules.hppa64... [03:18] ah... sounds like debian/d-i/modules/crypto-modules is to blame, maybe? [03:24] someone remind me what the updateconfigs target is? === lamont notes that is face is red. [03:29] debian/rules updateconfigs? [03:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance [03:30] lamont: updateconfigs is runn for all flavours in all architectures [03:31] amitk: Do you think your recent commits will have any effect on bug ##139171 ? [03:32] hello ubuntoid? bug #139171 [03:32] Launchpad bug 139171 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "ipw2200 regression in gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139171 [03:33] rtg: that one looks more like a network-manager problem [03:34] zul: Except for 'ipw2200: Firmware error detected.'. amitk's patch mentions causing firmware errors. [03:35] pkl_: what's the status of the new lum with fixed unionfs? [03:36] Mithrandir: the unionfs fixes are in git. I don't know if BenC has done an upload yet. [03:37] ok, I'll pester him then. Thanks a lot for fixing the problem though! :-) [03:39] BenC: if you could tell me what the status of new lum is, that'd be great. [03:41] rtg: any effect will be unintentional. I looked at the patch from the point of view of getting 'iwpriv set_power' fixed [03:42] BenC: test build running now, eta 2 hours or so. :( patch in git (lamont/hppa-ia64.git that probably fixes things if you happen to be doing -11.35 before the build finishes) [03:43] amitk: btw, do you know why the history function for gitweb doesn't work? [03:43] Whoopie: one guess would be the rebasing that happens [03:44] lamont: sorry, could you explain more? [03:45] Whoopie: how does it "doesn't work"? [03:45] lamont: history is empty. e.g. in Linus' tree, I can see the whole history of each file. === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@87.16.133.72] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:47] lamont: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git;a=history;h=d0ecf29b6abcd567121e63aa43f06e7c587d89e7;f=drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.c [03:47] lamont: just an example, it should show the latest patch which amitk commited. [03:47] good question [03:48] git log on the file shows the right stuff - so I'd wager it's gitweb having fits === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host72-133-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@0-63.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [i=lamont@nat/hp/x-2a2c04d4d6cd0dac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host72-133-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@212.103.157.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === elementz [n=elementz@p54BD67B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === l_ [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.235.82] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@212.103.157.37] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:53] mjg59: A bit ago we talked about bug 91056 and I thought you mentioned you would have to think about it. Am I recalling things correctly? [05:53] Launchpad bug 91056 in xkeyboard-config "[Feisty] synaptic keypad lock button launches KDE or Gnome Help Center" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91056 [05:55] bdmurray: Yeah [05:56] I can reproduce it on my new system, so I'll try to figure it out === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:56] Okay, I thought you said something about it sending a keypress even on release. [05:56] s/even/event/ [05:59] Yeah, that's what I see === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:28] BenC: patch committed in lamont/hppa-ia64.git confirmed good. Please grab it. [06:28] 5f73606476035c5dfc5166d94f1ca48e42fe13a4 === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === elementz [n=elementz@p54BD67B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:33] dear kernel hackers, may I once again steal some seconds of your attention so you fix the makefile that is leaving r818x.ko out of kernel packages: lp bug #129407 ? [06:33] Launchpad bug 129407 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "r818x.ko missing in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-8-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129407 [06:34] dieguito: I put it in Gutsy lum yesterday. === dieguito hugs rtg [06:34] i'll try to update now [06:35] dieguito: It hasn't hit the archive yet. Maybe by tomorrow. [06:35] awww, well i'll keep an eye [06:36] dieguito: incidentally, its going to be called rtl_8180.ko in order to clearly distinguish it from rtl818x. [06:40] which version is the one i'm waiting for? [06:44] dieguito: it depends on your device. Look in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy-lum.git;a=blob;h=b548f172c049814fd3b11c128eb8c066c27f6825;hb=c1b118eaae96119089a567ff175109f661c6f149;f=ubuntu/wireless/rtl8180/rtl8180/r8180_core.c for rtl8180_pci_id_tbl[] to see if your device is supported. [06:45] I mean the ubuntu package that is including the driver, I already know it works with my card, I was using that before [06:45] I even had to compile it's 10 different incarnations when ubuntu lost the module, i ended using ndiswrapper === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host72-133-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [i=csr21@158.223.59.95] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:50] dieguito: I'm not sure what you are asking. rtl8180 will appear in linux-ubuntu-modules, which you will get as part of the normal update process. [06:50] i mean, which is the version of the ubuntu package [06:50] the version that includes the previously missing driver [06:51] linux-ubuntu-modules 2.6.22.what [06:52] dieguito: It looks like the kernel upload is forcing an ABI bump, so lum will be 2.6.22-12.1 [06:52] yeah that :) === gicmo [n=gicmo@91.64.103.94] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:57] thank you rtg :) === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:58] hey folks, are there any plans to upgrade alsa further in gutsy? (to fix https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/131133) [06:58] Launchpad bug 131133 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[gutsy] no sound on Dell Latitude D630/D830/Precision M4300 pci id 8086:284b" [Medium,Triaged] === macd_ [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ScottK [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Konversation] === dieguito_ [n=diego@201.230.137.17] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:14] rtg: http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page seems to have a more up-to-date rtl8180 [07:14] mjg59: I'll lok. [07:14] s/lok/look/ [07:15] mjg59: Did you get a change to test? [07:15] s/change/chance/ [07:15] can't type today. [07:15] Afraid not - I should be able to get a tester once we have images that fit on a CD again [07:16] mjg59: I've been building Live CD images on USB sticks. === Fulk [i=test@gateway/tor/x-3d9685e32c25f091] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:23] DVDs generally also work. === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.247.99] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:31] rtg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/74672 - I suspect that'll still be an issue with the forward port? [07:31] Launchpad bug 74672 in linux-source-2.6.20 "ESSID gets truncated" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:35] mjg59: Yep. I'll patch lum, but its already missed the upload. [07:35] Ok, no problem [07:38] that rtl-wifi version of the driver works, if that's useful to know [07:38] dieguito_: Good. That is the first positive confirmation. get that mjg59? [07:39] Yup [07:39] well, it works but you *have* to make it work [07:39] and if I recall correctly, it suffers from the hangs ubuntu's version had. I would have to test again. [07:41] maybe someone who's better at searching launchpad than I am can find it, but there is at least one extended discussion about the r818x driver where the deadlocks are discussed and a possible patch advanced in one of the bug reports about freezes on network changes or large data rates (with that driver) [07:41] yes it's somewhere around [07:43] lp bug #77152 is also related to 818x hardware [07:43] Launchpad bug 77152 in ndiswrapper "Can't upload files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77152 [07:43] (and I'm suffering it right now) === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host72-133-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:45] you may also want to close this lp bug #22689 since it seems to be about the old driver version [07:45] Launchpad bug 22689 in linux-source-2.6.17 "Wi-Fi PCMCIA card fails association until CTRL+C is pressed." [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22689 [07:47] and the freeze bug is lp bug #31857, this one is a dupe of the essid truncate one lp bug #33714 and mark lp bug #45146 as dupe of #31857 [07:47] Launchpad bug 31857 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x driver freezes randomly" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31857 [07:47] Launchpad bug 33714 in linux-source-2.6.15 "r818x not working" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33714 [07:47] Launchpad bug 45146 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Hard lockup using realtek wireless since 2.6.15-22 " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45146 [07:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=r818x&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.status%3Alist=Incomplete&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= [07:49] (sorry about all that text) [07:51] 31857 is the one I was thinking of [07:51] as in, it has some useful discussion [07:53] (the patch that I have seen somewhere is to remove the lock_irqsave/unlock_irqrestore in that function; I doubt it's correct, but it probably deals with the immediate symptoms) [07:54] right now, the problems with the r818x thing are: locks when uploading files or doing lot of stuff via wifi, no multicast support, truncated essid names, no accurate signal strength [07:56] the locks can be worked around by using a -386 kernel, too [08:04] mjg59: I'm liking the driver at http://rtl-wifi.sourceforge.net. Maybe I can dump the rtl softmac and encryption hacks in favor of the in-kernel versions. [08:05] Wish I'd have found this one first before porting the Feisty mess. [08:07] wow. [08:07] nice URL ;-) [08:19] mjg59: hi mate, around? [08:19] Nafallo: Hi [08:20] mjg59: if I was sick of dell and consider buying a lenovo. which one would be a good choice if you know of hand? [08:21] Nothing in the 3000 range [08:21] mjg59: dell wants one and a half month to deliver a D630, so screw them ;-) [08:21] mjg59: oki, thinkpad it is. more specific or are those all good ones? :-) [08:22] Depends what you're looking for [08:22] They should all work fairly similarly [08:22] Though I've only direct experience of the T61 [08:23] basically something to pick with me out on the datacenters if need be, but also sitting home and from time to time compiling stuff. [08:23] basically. [08:23] X is to damn small I think. how is the T-series? [08:26] Fine [08:26] I think the 42/43 were nicer, but they're still very competent [08:26] kewl. I'll probably end up with that then. thank you so much! :-) [08:28] How can I read out the ECDT? [08:28] acpidump [08:46] sudo acpidump outputs DSDT, FACS, FACP, APIC, BOOT, MCFG, SSDT RSDT, RSD, PTR but no ECDT. (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/15169/) [08:49] /proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0/info contains: "gpe: 0x17; ports: 0x66, 0x62; use global lock: no". === BenC_ [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Krystof [n=csr21@84-51-132-95.christ977.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@pool-141-149-173-208.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:45] is it possible/likely to get an updated version of vmware-server-kernel-modules for gutsy in the near future? [09:53] or - better yet - is there a way for me to be able to build the module for my system? [09:57] hmm. you raise a good question. [09:57] which? [09:58] where did the vmware modules go? [09:58] they're still in the source package, heh. [09:58] there is also bug 120332 [09:58] Launchpad bug 120332 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "vmware-player-kernel-modules not available for Gutsy kernel 2.6.22 (dup-of: 124775)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120332 [09:58] Launchpad bug 124775 in vmware-player-kernel-2.6.15 "No kernel modules for the 2.6.22 kernel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124775 [09:58] and feisty. [10:02] i know its a good question - that's why i asked it :) === kylem points at BenC === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dopez [n=unknown@unaffiliated/dopez] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dorileo [n=dorileo@200.101.33.242] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:39] kylem: Does bug #141298 make any sense to you? These are Intel graphics platforms. [10:39] Launchpad bug 141298 in dell "Intel video card 8086:2a02 blacklisted, can't run compiz" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141298 [10:41] I downloaded the DEB program package pmtools and installed it. But 'apropos acpidisasm' cannot find anything suitable. How to diassemble the DSDT? [10:41] rtg: Yes, that's deliberate [10:42] 965 doesn't support Xv with composite [10:42] mjg59: I guess I don't understand enough about compiz and Xv. [10:42] XAA + composite = no video on 965 [10:43] Which is awkward [10:44] mjg59: This is something Jose used to be able to do. e.g., compiz --replace to fix fubar'd compiz after saving his session. [10:45] Right. Compiz will now not run on 965. [10:46] mjg59: Does that mean no 3D effects? [10:47] Yes [10:48] mjg59: Can you point me to some info or rationale for this? I need to wrap my head around it 'cause Jose is gonna have a cow. [10:50] rtg: i965 doesn't support the necessary pieces for video to work without using EXA [10:51] so you can have whizz-bang 3D effects, but no porn [10:51] rtg: The -intel driver doesn't support accelerated video playback when using a composited desktop unless you're using the EXA acceleration architecture, which we aren't [10:51] Video playback is more important than desktop effects [10:52] So, this is really a feature :) [10:52] Yes [10:58] mjg59: I'm sure a computer with a 965 can easily play video with compiz enabled, but without using Xv ? [10:59] JanC: In HD? No. [11:00] well, most porn isn't in HD I guess? :P [11:15] bug 141082 might need some attention [11:15] Launchpad bug 141082 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Only one CPU core recognized in Gutsy after updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141082 [11:19] well, at least I can play DVDs on my 1.33 GHz Core Duo laptop with 945 graphics, without using Xv (and while using compiz...) [11:20] i'm running that kernel on my pentium d and i can see both cores [11:20] Anyway, there's no decent way of autodetecting whether to use Xv or not [11:20] bdmurray: read the followup. He was running the 386 (UP) kernel. [11:22] bdmurray: never mind. brain damage. [11:22] rtg: That is one out of 4 commentors [11:24] i suspect he doesn't have an mpbios and as such, without acpi there's no hope of finding the other cpu [11:25] Yeah. You're not going to get more than one processor on any modern machine unless booting with acpi [11:26] What is this commentor's issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/141082/comments/5 [11:26] Launchpad bug 141082 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Only one CPU core recognized in Gutsy after updates" [High,Triaged] [11:27] [ 5.324000] CPU #1 not responding - cannot use it. [11:28] bdmurray: That's clearly a different bug to the filed one [11:29] hrm, its too bad comments aren't movable then [12:34] rtg: I suspect someone's going to have to manage Jose's expectations. Gutsy will not be shipping with compiz on 965.