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| [_Trimble_] | anyone awake? | 02:15 |
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| laga | maybe | 02:16 |
| [_Trimble_] | i'm looking to get my hauppage 150 ir blaster to work. was wondering if anyone has any pointers | 02:16 |
| [_Trimble_] | guess not | 02:20 |
| laga | not me, never used them | 02:21 |
| laga | but i guess the web has it all :) | 02:21 |
| [_Trimble_] | heheh eok | 02:21 |
| laga | file a bug if you found how it's done (and how its integrated well into ubuntu) | 02:21 |
| laga | alright, it's way past bed time for me. | 02:21 |
| [_Trimble_] | file a bug if it works? | 02:22 |
| laga | yes | 02:23 |
| laga | because it's lirc and people are not used if it works | 02:23 |
| [_Trimble_] | maybe i should do that for ndiswrapper. | 02:23 |
| laga | we dont wanna scare anyone in our final release | 02:23 |
| [_Trimble_] | i had to do ndiswrapper this morning and wrote my steps down ;) | 02:23 |
| laga | heh | 02:24 |
| laga | i usd ndiswrapper for a bit till i spent $15 on a nice intel minipci abg card | 02:24 |
| laga | oh, right. bedtime. | 02:26 |
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| vanjuggler | hello all | 02:56 |
| Tari_ | hello | 02:56 |
| [_Trimble_] | hiya | 02:56 |
| vanjuggler | I just installed mythbuntu (nuking my knoppmyth install). the install was beatiful | 02:57 |
| vanjuggler | beautiful, even | 02:57 |
| vanjuggler | but moving around the menus is incredibly slow.... any ideas? | 02:57 |
| [_Trimble_] | yes! | 02:57 |
| [_Trimble_] | I just nuked my knoppmyth install in favor of mythbuntu also | 02:58 |
| vanjuggler | cool | 02:58 |
| [_Trimble_] | i used the alpha ISO - the 7.10 gutsy one. beautiful install compared to knoppix | 02:58 |
| vanjuggler | yeah, it's really nice - i was impressed | 02:58 |
| [_Trimble_] | so, I noticed my menus being really freaking annoyingly slow | 02:58 |
| Tari_ | I also had similar speed problems (with knoppmyth, anyway) | 02:58 |
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| Tari_ | getting 3D drivers for my video card (an nVidia 6200) helped a bunch | 02:59 |
| Tari_ | but that probably won't help you, eh? | 02:59 |
| [_Trimble_] | I used the tool to install the nvidia driver (i have a pci based nvidia card) and the problem went away. I didn't select the "latest driver" one, but it seems to have done both and my menus are fast and fade beautifully now :) | 02:59 |
| vanjuggler | cool, i'll give that a go | 03:00 |
| [_Trimble_] | have you an nvidia card? | 03:00 |
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| [_Trimble_] | if so, definately try the nvidia drivers | 03:00 |
| neofax | OK, have mythbuntu setup using the round about way. Have a problem when trying to start watch TV | 03:01 |
| vanjuggler | [_Trimble_] : yeah an older nvidia card... | 03:01 |
| neofax | Everytime I press the Watch TV button the screen flashes and goes back to the main menu | 03:01 |
| Tari_ | maybe your remote is mapped incorrectly? | 03:02 |
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| chuk1 | restart the backend | 03:06 |
| tgm4883_laptop | neofax, what tuner? | 03:07 |
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| neofax99 | Sorry! My network went down. Probably the rain! | 03:12 |
| vanjuggler | doh, my desktop doesn't come up now | 03:13 |
| [_Trimble_] | van: yikes | 03:16 |
| [_Trimble_] | i dont know how to solve from there | 03:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | neofax99, what tuner? | 03:17 |
| Tari_ | vanjuggler, what did you do? | 03:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | vanjuggler, what did you do | 03:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | lol | 03:17 |
| [_Trimble_] | im guessing he tried to install nvidia driver to fix the slow menus problem | 03:17 |
| vanjuggler | i switched to the nvidia drivers | 03:17 |
| vanjuggler | yep | 03:17 |
| vanjuggler | and rebooted | 03:17 |
| neofax99 | tgm4883_laptop: I have a PVR-500 and a normal WinTV card. They both work using mplayer. | 03:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | how did you install them, and what card? | 03:18 |
| [_Trimble_] | im trying to figure out where to start to get my ir blaster working on the hauppage pvr-150. i've read superm1 saying something about it helping to be using gutsy, which i am | 03:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | which wintv card? | 03:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Trimble, there is a guide that you could look at for feisty, it may help | 03:19 |
| neofax99 | God I feel like an idiot. I kept my old partition and forgot to change the ownership to mythtv:video. It works now!!! | 03:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | is it in the help.ubuntu.com systel, tgm | 03:19 |
| [_Trimble_] | ? | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sec | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | my internet is being slow | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | vanjuggler, which video card and what driver and how did you install it? | 03:23 |
| [_Trimble_] | heh that's the page i'malraedy looking at, tgm :) thx | 03:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | why is my internet so slow | 03:33 |
| [_Trimble_] | um... cuz i'm downloading *.dat ? | 03:33 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol j/k | 03:33 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ssh [_Trimble_] shutdown -h -P now | 03:34 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ;) | 03:34 |
| [_Trimble_] | oh crap, why is everything shutting do | 03:34 |
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| [_Trimble_] | that joke would have been funnier if I had the channel in my favorites so i could get back faster.. lol | 03:35 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | lol | 03:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | or if you had done this | 03:36 |
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| [_Trimble_] | yeah | 03:36 |
| [_Trimble_] | that too | 03:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | or if I could spell | 03:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hehe | 03:36 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | I think im going to try rebooting | 03:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | stupid router | 03:36 |
| [_Trimble_] | my router is nasty sometimes | 03:36 |
| tgm4883_laptop | back in 5, then I will fix MythbuntuGuest54's problem | 03:36 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol | 03:38 |
| Aval0n | if you pay for a dish network subscription is there anyway to get mythtv to do the tuning? | 03:39 |
| Aval0n | I've heard of dvb-s card and stuff | 03:39 |
| Aval0n | but kinda more in the pirating scene | 03:39 |
| Aval0n | I'm just looking to keep my subscription but use my mythtv with dish | 03:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | back | 03:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | what did I miss | 03:40 |
| MythbuntuGuest54 | having a problem with archiving file/dvd. step through archiving a file and get to the last screen without errors but nothing is happening? nothing in the logs.? any ideas/ | 03:40 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest54, what do you mean nothing is happening? Does it bring you to a log screen? | 03:40 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Aval0n, the only way to do that (that I know of) is to get something like a PVR-150 and just have it record via that, and have an ir blaster change the channel | 03:41 |
| MythbuntuGuest54 | it goes to the progress screen with " update, cancel and exit" | 03:41 |
| MythbuntuGuest54 | but no progress | 03:41 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest54, sec | 03:41 |
| Aval0n | tgm hmmm | 03:41 |
| Aval0n | I have a pvr-500 | 03:42 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well that would work too | 03:42 |
| Aval0n | does the ir blaster cause a lot of delay? | 03:42 |
| tgm4883_laptop | delay when changing the channel? | 03:43 |
| Aval0n | yes | 03:43 |
| tgm4883_laptop | depends on a few factors | 03:43 |
| Aval0n | assuming I have a fast enough PC | 03:43 |
| Aval0n | 3.4ghz ht p4 | 03:43 |
| Aval0n | 2 gigs of ddr400 | 03:44 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I don't use ir blasting though, I will, as soon as I get an Serial IR Receiver | 03:44 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well that doesn't really matter | 03:44 |
| Aval0n | o | 03:44 |
| Aval0n | so if you do that, do you use myth's program guide or dishs' | 03:44 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ir blaster is only going to change the channel, and how well it does that depends on the quality of the IR blaster and the how good/fast the receiver changes channels | 03:45 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you would use mythtv's program guide | 03:45 |
| Aval0n | excellent | 03:45 |
| Aval0n | cox analog looks like crap | 03:45 |
| Aval0n | I much prefer sd on dish network | 03:45 |
| Aval0n | I didn't know you could do that. | 03:46 |
| Aval0n | hmm | 03:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea basically the computer is just recording one channel | 03:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | kinda like a vcr hooked up to a tv | 03:46 |
| Aval0n | if my dish stb has duel tuners | 03:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | the tv is on channel 3, but the vcr can be tuned to lots of channels | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | can I still use both of them | 03:47 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | oh | 03:47 |
| tgm4883_laptop | unless | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | that's super lame then | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | for me | 03:47 |
| tgm4883_laptop | for some crazy reason you can watch 2 shows at the same time | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | or record 1 and watch the other if they come on at the same time.. | 03:47 |
| Aval0n | or record 2 that come on at the same time if you aren't home. | 03:48 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 03:48 |
| Aval0n | my dish dvr that I currently have has 2 tuners | 03:48 |
| Aval0n | bummer that it can't be done like that.. | 03:48 |
| tgm4883_laptop | doesn't matter, unless it can output 2 shows at once, which i seriously doubt | 03:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | then you would also have to somehow tune them | 03:49 |
| Aval0n | it can | 03:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not going to work | 03:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you can output 2 shows at once? | 03:49 |
| Aval0n | i have a 2nd box in the back that my 2 kids use | 03:49 |
| Aval0n | goes to 2 tvs | 03:49 |
| Aval0n | 1 per room | 03:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | you can hook 2 tv's up and watch different shows on each of them? | 03:49 |
| Aval0n | cox out even | 03:49 |
| tgm4883_laptop | link to your box? | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | yes | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | with the tuner in the back | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | err the stb I mean | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | each kid can watch a different show | 03:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | link, i gotta see what we are talking about | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | =/ | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | I don't know any links | 03:50 |
| Aval0n | sec | 03:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | name and model number? | 03:50 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest54, you still there? | 03:51 |
| MythbuntuGuest54 | yep | 03:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I haven't forgotten about you, i just found what I was looking for | 03:51 |
| Aval0n | TU-DP322RU | 03:51 |
| Aval0n | http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027194&pathId=85&page=5&archive=true | 03:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest54, read this, it sounds like your problem http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F | 03:52 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | hmm | 03:53 |
| MythbuntuGuest57 | can you resend that link, session restarted and lost it | 03:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Aval0n, how do both controls work? | 03:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | MythbuntuGuest54, read this, it sounds like your problem http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F | 03:53 |
| Aval0n | seperat eremotes | 03:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | right, but they each only control 1 tuner right? | 03:53 |
| [_Trimble_] | i had to reread everything to catch up. | 03:54 |
| [_Trimble_] | i'm trying to configure my pvr-150 hauppage to control a dish network receiver righ tnow lol | 03:54 |
| tgm4883_laptop | [_Trimble_] , you and Aval0n should work on the ir blaster together, although I admit, his is going to be more complicated | 03:55 |
| [_Trimble_] | lol | 03:56 |
| [_Trimble_] | it's my understanding that my issue is unique to the pvr-150.. at least until i get it blasting something ;) | 03:57 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Aval0n, I take it back, I haven't seen anything like that before (I have Cable). If each remote only controls 1 tuner and not the other (or each tuner has a seperate IR receiver), then it's possible to use both | 03:57 |
| [_Trimble_] | currently, i'm trying to track down a way to figure out what parts are already installed and what aren't. | 03:57 |
| Aval0n | nicwe | 03:58 |
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| [_Trimble_] | I read something on Dish's website recently about 1 receiver connecting to two separate TV's to show two separate programs. it would stand to reason that one could connect one of those outputs to a myth tuner instead ;) | 03:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | [_Trimble_] you mean something like this http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL027194&pathId=85&page=5&archive=true | 03:59 |
| [_Trimble_] | i also read that each receiver can be set to receive specific remotes and theyc an be numbered from 1 to something like 20 or so | 03:59 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ^^link borrowed from Aval0n | 03:59 |
| [_Trimble_] | though, i can't imagine someone with 20 dish receivers lol | 03:59 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah, like that, tgm | 04:00 |
| CBiLL | it's 14 | 04:06 |
| CBiLL | not 20 | 04:06 |
| CBiLL | and it RF remotes | 04:06 |
| CBiLL | so folks can have different receiver in each room | 04:06 |
| CBiLL | and RF remote don't try to control other room recievers | 04:06 |
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| MythbuntuGuest70 | thanks tgm, you rock. that fixed it. got time for one more? | 04:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sure, but the answers may be slow | 04:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest70 | myth game, set up xmame, place a rom with the ext .zip in the folder. I can see it when I browse to it but does nothing when selected | 04:19 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sorry, I dont know much about mythgame yet | 04:20 |
| Tari_ | sounds like the emulator can't open the archive | 04:20 |
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| MythbuntuGuest70 | I tried using some crazy options I found on a config page, removed those from command and it fired up, cannot find the command for fullscreen. tried -fullsceen in the command but nothing | 04:33 |
| CBiLL | Evening tgm4883 were you able to resolve your fading issue yet? | 04:37 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yep | 04:41 |
| CBiLL | what did you have to do to fix it? | 04:44 |
| CBiLL | just wanted to know for my future reference | 04:44 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | it was a gnome screen saver issue | 04:44 |
| CBiLL | ah MythBuntu using Gnmoe? | 04:45 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 04:45 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but does have some properties | 04:45 |
| CBiLL | I see | 04:45 |
| CBiLL | cool glad to hear you fixed it | 04:45 |
| CBiLL | but I am having an issue myself | 04:45 |
| CBiLL | can't seem to get Samba to play nice | 04:46 |
| CBiLL | already edited smb.conf to the correct network name | 04:46 |
| CBiLL | oh wait | 04:46 |
| CBiLL | it appears now lol | 04:46 |
| CBiLL | ha that good =P | 04:46 |
| CBiLL | alright 8-) | 04:46 |
| tgm4883_laptop | yea im not a fan of samba | 04:49 |
| CBiLL | hehehe | 04:50 |
| CBiLL | I do all my Closed Caption editing on a windows machine since the binary only avaiable for that platform | 04:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118538 in mythtv (multiverse) "init script unable to "start" after backend crash" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118538 | 05:00 |
| [_Trimble_] | ooOOOoo... toys.. my cellphone arrived in the mail today :) | 05:01 |
| [_Trimble_] | hi superm1 | 05:04 |
| superm1 | hi | 05:04 |
| [_Trimble_] | what can you tell me about: hauppage pvr150 ir BLASTER on the Gutsy Mythbuntu install? | 05:05 |
| superm1 | well it shouldnt be much different than on feisty | 05:05 |
| superm1 | its a pretty ugly situation getting the thing setup | 05:05 |
| superm1 | only difference is that you have kernel modules already setup on gutsy | 05:05 |
| [_Trimble_] | i've been reading through the Feisty guide to getting blaster to work... | 05:05 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah, i read a post where you told someone that there was something you didn't have to do on gutsy | 05:06 |
| [_Trimble_] | so i wanted to wait till i could ask you about that ;) | 05:06 |
| superm1 | yeah just dont build the kernel modules again | 05:06 |
| superm1 | getting the rest of it setup to be automatic is a more messy situation | 05:06 |
| [_Trimble_] | hmm... i saw a post that listed the steps to do on every kernel update.. | 05:06 |
| superm1 | because of the license on the blaster firmware | 05:06 |
| CBiLL | hey superm1 .. mythbuntu looking great! | 05:06 |
| superm1 | hi CBiLL | 05:07 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah mythbuntu is freakin awesome ;) | 05:07 |
| superm1 | i'm looking really forward to making the next disk, things are getting very close | 05:07 |
| CBiLL | superm1 : got a question . I do know the Closed Caption are saved in mpeg file becasue I can extract them into a seperte file | 05:07 |
| [_Trimble_] | i NEED to get the irblaster working next. gotta be ready when Heroes starts monday nyuck nyuck nyuck | 05:07 |
| CBiLL | but is it possible to have the Closed Caption recorded into mpeg as open caption? | 05:07 |
| superm1 | haha | 05:07 |
| superm1 | open caption? | 05:07 |
| superm1 | never heard of such a thing | 05:07 |
| CBiLL | "imbedded" into the video itself | 05:08 |
| CBiLL | no decoder needed | 05:08 |
| CBiLL | ie record what I am seeing | 05:08 |
| superm1 | that i'm not too sure | 05:08 |
| superm1 | you're going to have to check with -users for that | 05:08 |
| CBiLL | ok thanks | 05:08 |
| CBiLL | I don't want to have to create a subtitle file for each show I record | 05:08 |
| superm1 | [_Trimble_] , as for that blaster, there should be directions on the gutsy guide still | 05:08 |
| [_Trimble_] | so, do i still need to do the whole "remove lirc, config lirc-modules-source, remake, and reload" thing in gutsy for lirc? | 05:09 |
| superm1 | No | 05:09 |
| [_Trimble_] | where is the gutsy guide? | 05:09 |
| superm1 | does the gutsy page still discuss that? | 05:09 |
| [_Trimble_] | dunno.. where is the gutsy page? heheh | 05:09 |
| superm1 | it's linked right at the top of all the pages | 05:09 |
| superm1 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy | 05:09 |
| superm1 | see the "Ubuntu 7.10 Ubuntu 7.04" etc | 05:10 |
| [_Trimble_] | ok, it's similar to the feisty stuff. I grabbed and stuck the firmware file int he right spot, and i've messed around with the lircd.conf file, but how do i start testing it? lol | 05:11 |
| CBiLL | try mode2 -d /dev/lirc0 | 05:12 |
| CBiLL | and press some remote button | 05:12 |
| CBiLL | if it detects it . it should spam the screen with some binary code | 05:13 |
| [_Trimble_] | specifically - how do i get the lirc_pvr150 driver/module/whatever installed, or how do i check if it's already there? | 05:13 |
| CBiLL | oh my bad then .. thought you wanted to test your setup to make sure you config'ed it all correctly | 05:13 |
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| [_Trimble_] | the hauppage a415 remote already works PERFECTLY. i know the ir RECEIVER is working already, right "out of the box" with mythbuntu 7.10. it's the irblaster i need to test | 05:13 |
| CBiLL | oh I see ..I have not learn the irblaster yet ha! | 05:14 |
| [_Trimble_] | bah.... time's up. wife is ready for hot steamy se.... um.. backrub | 05:14 |
| CBiLL | getting to that part next =P | 05:14 |
| [_Trimble_] | later all :) good luck | 05:14 |
| superm1 | night, try tomorrow i guess | 05:18 |
| CBiLL | nn superm1 | 05:21 |
| superm1 | nn | 05:21 |
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| foxxbuntu | superm1_, you there? | 08:21 |
| superm1_ | yeah momentarily | 08:21 |
| superm1_ | i'm exhausted though, i'll be headed to be soon | 08:21 |
| foxxbuntu | hey...just gonna let you know I just purchased some hosting | 08:21 |
| foxxbuntu | for bandwitdh for right now | 08:21 |
| superm1_ | okay cool | 08:21 |
| foxxbuntu | 2.5TB / month | 08:21 |
| foxxbuntu | and 250GB of storage | 08:22 |
| superm1_ | did you talk to ben dailey already? | 08:22 |
| superm1_ | and get it setup with dns and such | 08:22 |
| foxxbuntu | no, i just bought it like 10 mins ago | 08:23 |
| superm1_ | ahokay | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | I don't have all my details yet | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | $84 for the year | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | with a domain name | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | and MySQL support ect ect | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | what'd you get another domain name for? | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | it was part of the deal | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | i see | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | I know...I own like 10 now | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | okay well very cool | 08:24 |
| foxxbuntu | yup | 08:25 |
| foxxbuntu | should help us stay going | 08:25 |
| foxxbuntu | well...night | 08:25 |
| foxxbuntu | talk to later | 08:25 |
| superm1_ | night | 08:25 |
| CBiLL | can anyone tell me of gossamer just only a mailing list viewer or it will accept posts? | 08:45 |
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| superm1_ | CBiLL, it's read only from that website yes | 08:52 |
| superm1_ | to bed for me again though | 08:52 |
| superm1_ | night | 08:52 |
| frink_ | hm | 09:20 |
| frink_ | 07:30 < foxxbuntu> hey...just gonna let you know I just purchased some hosting | 09:20 |
| frink_ | 07:31 < foxxbuntu> for bandwitdh for right now | 09:20 |
| frink_ | like if you guys need hosting, I can do it for free. | 09:20 |
| frink_ | As much disk/bandwidth as you need | 09:20 |
| Rimers | hey, any of you guys have any experience with Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500? i have a problem with it crashing and leaving me unable to tune into any channels | 09:42 |
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| Rimers | hmm think i may have found the problem, there have been installed a new kernel, that could have overwridden the modules for the tuner | 10:12 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, the nova-t 500 is known for having USB disconnect problems | 10:15 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, there's a fix suggested on the mythtv wiki | 10:15 |
| Rimers | im not sure if its disconnect problems, it stopped working overnight | 10:15 |
| Rimers | i wanted to tune into a channel this morning and it was without signal it said on one tuner and only 71% and no lock on the other tuner | 10:16 |
| Rimers | ive seen this before on it, and a reload of the driver solves it, but i was wondering if it was due to the new kernel that was installed a few days back | 10:17 |
| directhex|work | not specifically. it's a general problem with the nova-t 500. apply the fix on the mythtv wiki | 10:18 |
| Rimers | As an attempt to solve it im installing the latest driver off the linux-tv site | 10:19 |
| Rimers | ah okay, ill have a look | 10:19 |
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| frink_ | Rimers: what kernel u on? | 11:05 |
| frink_ | the nova-t 500 was amost unusable for ages, it's fine now though. | 11:05 |
| frink_ | Linux myth-desktop 2.6.22-10-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 22 08:11:52 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux | 11:06 |
| Rimers | hmm beleive its the latest gusty kernel | 11:06 |
| frink_ | same as me then, mine has been OK. | 11:07 |
| frink_ | i also tried the new drivers for v4l-dvb but they would not compile as I am missing btis, i'll look into it later today if I have timne. | 11:08 |
| frink_ | Rimers: Are you int he UK? | 11:08 |
| frink_ | ah no, you is .dk | 11:08 |
| Rimers | okay, when i tried watching tv earlier it didnt work, i was unable to get a lock on the channel | 11:08 |
| Rimers | :) | 11:08 |
| Rimers | hmm still not able to get a lock :S on one of the tuners i can get a partial lock with 79% signal, but on the other tuner there is no signal at all | 11:10 |
| Rimers | Tuner 1 signal 0% :S | 11:10 |
| frink_ | hmm | 11:11 |
| frink_ | do you have the LNA turned on? | 11:11 |
| Rimers | you mean this ? options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1 | 11:14 |
| Rimers | hmm this is odd, i stopped the myth backend to reload the tv tuner moduels, then restarted the backend, and now i cant connect to it :S | 11:21 |
| Rimers | the log for the backend looks fine with no error messages or anything | 11:21 |
| Rimers | http://pastebin.ca/704344 does these log entries mean anything to any of you? | 11:26 |
| Rimers | looks to me like its getting disconnected | 11:28 |
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| Rimers | is there a way of securing that the things you write in /boot/grub/menu.lst as boot parameters always will stay there even when adding a new kernel or having the system otherwise add stuff? | 11:35 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, yes | 11:38 |
| Rimers | sweet, can you tell know how directhex|work? | 11:39 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, anything you want to apply to all kernels, append to the line "# kopt=" | 11:39 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, anything you want to apply to only non-recovery kernels, append to the line "# defoptions=" | 11:39 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, anything you want to apply to only recovery kernels, append to the line "# altoptions=" | 11:39 |
| directhex|work | NO NOT UNCOMMENT THE LINES! | 11:39 |
| directhex|work | then run update-grub | 11:40 |
| Rimers | directhex|work: where do i find those? in /boot/grub/menu.lst? | 11:40 |
| laga | morning | 11:41 |
| directhex|work | Rimers, aye | 11:43 |
| Rimers | directhex|work: thanks :) | 11:43 |
| Rimers | morning laga | 11:45 |
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| superm1_ | frink_, you can help with hosting? | 04:19 |
| laga | morning superm1 | 04:23 |
| superm1 | mornin | 04:23 |
| superm1 | laga, overnight, i dist-upgraded a vm from fresh installed feisty->gutsy, installed the control centre, and then tried to change autologin | 04:25 |
| superm1 | didn't run into any issues | 04:25 |
| laga | ah, right. i was supposed to verify that :/ | 04:25 |
| laga | close the bug then | 04:25 |
| superm1 | well i'm just wondering what the circumstances that you were under that caused it to still happen | 04:25 |
| superm1 | if its a username with a weird character or something | 04:26 |
| laga | nope | 04:26 |
| laga | just putting back my pbuilder scripts :/ | 04:27 |
| superm1 | what happened? | 04:27 |
| laga | oh, i switched to amd64 and now it needs some additional magic so i can build i386 and amd64 | 04:28 |
| superm1 | oh yeah. | 04:28 |
| laga | whatever version of falcon i have now, it's lacking documentation for the buildd support which makes me believe that it's not the final beta 3 | 04:29 |
| superm1 | did buildd support make it in? | 04:29 |
| laga | it's there, but i don't know how to configure it right now | 04:30 |
| laga | not sure if it's complete | 04:30 |
| superm1 | gotta check with Seveas I guess :) | 04:30 |
| superm1 | brb, new kernel | 04:30 |
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| MythbuntuGuest09 | anyone know the command for mame to play in fullscreen? | 05:14 |
| laga | not me, but i bet it's in the documentation | 05:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | I've tried about 2 or 3 of the different commands but they did not work | 05:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | this is what is in the documentation Command: xmame-0.103.x11 -vidmod 1 -fullscreen (Path and name of binary + any optional parameters) | 05:19 |
| MythbuntuGuest09 | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-16.html | 05:19 |
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| superm1 | laga, any luck with debconf stuff? | 05:22 |
| laga | havent fiddled with it yet | 05:23 |
| laga | busy with pbuilder and university :/ | 05:24 |
| superm1 | mkay | 05:24 |
| superm1 | well i'm going to try to fix your lirc bug so hopefully this will be the last lirc upload | 05:24 |
| superm1 | could you test it? | 05:24 |
| laga | sure | 05:24 |
| superm1 | okay i'm just building my own debdiff first and i'll send you it as soon as i do | 05:24 |
| superm1 | is it on amd64 or i386? | 05:26 |
| superm1 | i can just send you a deb if its i386 | 05:26 |
| laga | on amd64 | 05:26 |
| superm1 | psh | 05:27 |
| laga | :/ | 05:27 |
| laga | amd64 is still feeling a bit odd | 05:28 |
| laga | i have to download zsnes from a odd third-party repo now | 05:28 |
| laga | at least it's working. | 05:28 |
| superm1 | laga, http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/lirc-ubuntu6-ubuntu7.debdiff | 05:29 |
| laga | compiling... | 05:31 |
| superm1 | u know the only file that changed was lirc.postinst, you probably could have dropped it in /var/lib/dpkg/info | 05:32 |
| superm1 | and just dpkg-reconfigure lirc | 05:32 |
| superm1 | and see what happens | 05:32 |
| laga | nothing. i get to choose a remote, but /etc/modprobe.d/lirc is not updated | 05:35 |
| superm1 | well it only updates when you switch remote types | 05:35 |
| laga | let me try to choose a different remote and switch back to the correct one | 05:35 |
| superm1 | right | 05:36 |
| laga | right | 05:36 |
| laga | blacklist lirc_atiusb | 05:36 |
| laga | blacklist ati_remote | 05:36 |
| laga | yay | 05:36 |
| laga | looks great | 05:37 |
| laga | you're a star :) | 05:37 |
| superm1 | awesome | 05:37 |
| superm1 | i'll throw that debdiff on LP then | 05:37 |
| superm1 | yeah now we need that debconf support in the control centre so it can properly do this too :) | 05:38 |
| laga | dont make me feel bad ;) | 05:38 |
| superm1 | haha | 05:39 |
| laga | btw | 05:39 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, I found the camel color between the login screen and the desktop | 05:39 |
| tgm4883 | well, I didn't find it, just read about it | 05:39 |
| superm1 | caramel you mean? | 05:39 |
| laga | did you see what i pasted about python bindings for mythtv? | 05:39 |
| superm1 | laga, no my scrollback lost a lot yestrerday | 05:39 |
| laga | superm1: k | 05:39 |
| superm1 | what'd you post? | 05:39 |
| superm1 | tgm4883, so you know where it needs to be updated to resolve then? | 05:39 |
| Daviey | superm1: did you hear about the the weekly builds bug in mythmusic, gutsy build - but depending on a fesity deb? | 05:39 |
| laga | superm1: well, there are now python bindings for libmythui. so you can draw stuff in mythtv using python. | 05:40 |
| tgm4883 | Yea I just tested it in my VM | 05:40 |
| superm1 | Daviey, on trunk only | 05:40 |
| Daviey | superm1: yup | 05:40 |
| Daviey | (i guess) | 05:40 |
| superm1 | Daviey, yeah, start throwing things at laga :) | 05:40 |
| tgm4883 | It's described as camel color, #dab082 so whatever color that is | 05:40 |
| laga | trunk, bug? | 05:40 |
| laga | assign it to me and i'll take a look | 05:40 |
| superm1 | laga, woah sweet | 05:40 |
| tgm4883 | here, let me send you where I saw it | 05:40 |
| Daviey | laga is an eager beaver | 05:40 |
| superm1 | that will make for the control centre to have a myth ui frontend possible | 05:41 |
| laga | beaver? | 05:41 |
| tgm4883 | !bug 132833 | 05:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132833 in gdm "login background color is hardcoded" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132833 | 05:41 |
| superm1 | laga, in trunk only i'm assuming? | 05:41 |
| laga | superm1: might work with 0.20 but i havent tried it | 05:41 |
| Daviey | Where did the drupal theme come from? | 05:42 |
| superm1 | laga, well its a bit of work to rewrite a whole new frontend for the control centre this late in the cycle.... | 05:42 |
| superm1 | Daviey, i found it and modified it | 05:42 |
| Daviey | superm1: where | 05:42 |
| superm1 | it's based off of brushedsteel | 05:43 |
| superm1 | the original is really narrow | 05:43 |
| superm1 | and doesn't work well with our buttons | 05:43 |
| Daviey | I'm looking for a nice drupal theme, and they are all naff | 05:43 |
| superm1 | i really love ubuntu studio's drupal theme | 05:43 |
| superm1 | they did a great job on it | 05:43 |
| Daviey | They used to be hosted on pegasys right? | 05:43 |
| Daviey | Do you know why they migrated to dreamhost? :O | 05:44 |
| Daviey | They have done a spiffing job with that theme | 05:44 |
| laga | superm1: i downloaded the tarball. some readme stated it's early and has memleaks ec | 05:44 |
| laga | etc* | 05:44 |
| Daviey | laga: reckon it'll ever be commited tho? | 05:45 |
| superm1 | Daviey, they used to be host on a pegasus's sister | 05:45 |
| laga | Daviey: no clue | 05:45 |
| superm1 | laga, okay then it will be something to target for next release then | 05:45 |
| superm1 | that will be very cool though | 05:45 |
| laga | yes. | 05:45 |
| Daviey | juski is v. anti that patch | 05:46 |
| laga | i hope it'll be improved and committed to trunk eventually. there was another guy who tried it and he probably didn't get very far | 05:46 |
| laga | juski is anti everything | 05:46 |
| laga | ;) | 05:46 |
| superm1 | why is juski against it? | 05:46 |
| superm1 | tgm4883, good find on that, too bad it probably won't get fixed this cycle | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 05:47 |
| tgm4883 | I can fix it on my machine though :) | 05:47 |
| laga | blacklist lirc_atiusb | 05:47 |
| laga | blacklist ati_remote | 05:47 |
| Daviey | 10:56 < juski> I just don't like the idea there's suddenly going to be zillions of shitty plugins | 05:47 |
| laga | sorry | 05:47 |
| superm1 | Daviey, why does he seem to think python plugins == shitty plugins? | 05:48 |
| superm1 | it just means easier to write plugins.... | 05:48 |
| Daviey | That was my argument | 05:48 |
| superm1 | you could use the same argument with FF | 05:48 |
| tgm4883 | eh, I can see his argument | 05:48 |
| Daviey | python can be hacky... but doesn't need to be | 05:48 |
| superm1 | which does have zillions of shitty plugins | 05:48 |
| superm1 | but lots of great ones too | 05:48 |
| laga | he prolly thinks that ever idiot will make a plugin once python bindings are available | 05:49 |
| tgm4883 | he's afraid that zillions of shitty plugins will water down the product | 05:49 |
| superm1 | well if they are installed by default of course | 05:49 |
| Daviey | And so what? If the plugin sux - then don't use it, or rewrite it in C/C++ | 05:49 |
| laga | we simply won't ship bad plugins | 05:49 |
| superm1 | but if there is a nice system to rank plugins on a site somewhere | 05:49 |
| laga | well, we're already shipping mythstream, OK... | 05:49 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, doesn't that sort of already exist? | 05:50 |
| superm1 | mythstream is pretty cool though | 05:50 |
| superm1 | i like it | 05:50 |
| superm1 | keescook, could you ack Bug #140940 before the beta freeze tomorrow? | 05:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140940 in lirc "ati_remote.ko not unloaded during configure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140940 | 05:50 |
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| superm1 | Daviey, foxbuntu has another mirror he paid for some hosting to add on | 05:52 |
| superm1 | next time he's on, i'll get some more info from him to get things added | 05:52 |
| superm1 | also frink_ offered earlier today bandwidth | 05:52 |
| Daviey | Oh, just PM or email me url - and I'll add it | 05:52 |
| keescook | superm1: I'd recommend a few changes to your grep usage. so we don't match sub-strings, I'd say use egrep -q '^'"$item"'$' /proc/modules (and use -q which doesn't need the /dev/null redirect) | 05:52 |
| keescook | e.g. lirc_ati would match lirc_atiusb | 05:53 |
| keescook | (with the current test) | 05:53 |
| superm1 | keescook, ah i didn't consider substrings, good point | 05:53 |
| superm1 | well even that won't work appropriately though | 05:55 |
| superm1 | because /proc/modules has additional info after the module name | 05:56 |
| superm1 | it'll have to be egrep -q '^'"$item"'\ ' /proc/modules | 05:56 |
| superm1 | keescook, okay i just tested that with a few other loaded modules, and put the debdiff back up | 06:00 |
| keescook | superm1: ah, right, good catch with the space. (shouldn't need the \ when it's in '' | 06:01 |
| keescook | ) but that's cool, doesn't hurt either | 06:01 |
| superm1 | i've gotten really accustomed to escaping spaces anywhere i go now :) | 06:02 |
| laga | i get this error with pbuilder: | 06:03 |
| laga | Command line parameter [myththemes_0.20.99+trunk14511-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_source.dsc] is not a valid .dsc file name | 06:03 |
| laga | can anyone see what's wrong? | 06:03 |
| superm1 | whew that's a long version number | 06:04 |
| superm1 | perhaps you're not properly capturing something in your pbuilder wrapper scripts (if you have them)? | 06:04 |
| laga | well, *i* as gonna use ~ppa! | 06:04 |
| laga | hum, true | 06:04 |
| laga | i'll check | 06:05 |
| keescook | superm1: hm, seems we are already in beta freeze. we'll have to wait until the beta is out, I think. | 06:05 |
| superm1 | oh i see. is it just main, or is it universe/multiverse too then? | 06:06 |
| keescook | main has a harder freeze than universe at the moment. | 06:06 |
| keescook | I think universe just needs a manual shove. | 06:07 |
| superm1 | ah alright | 06:07 |
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| laga | duh. filename was indeed incorrect :/ | 06:22 |
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| laga | i want my -rt kernel back. compiling mythtv makes this box slow now | 06:30 |
| hendrixski | what's the -rt kernel? | 06:33 |
| laga | hendrixski: realtime kernel. it makes desktop usage a bit smoother here, but it's got a few problems | 06:34 |
| hendrixski | ah, what kinds of problems? | 06:35 |
| laga | virtualbox wouldn't work properly and the restricted-modules package did not come with the nvidia driver | 06:36 |
| laga | or fglrx for that matter | 06:36 |
| hendrixski | ah, so both driver-level and userspace level problems | 06:38 |
| laga | virtualbox is a bit kernelspace, too :) | 06:38 |
| laga | nvidia.ko worked fine after installing it manually, though | 06:38 |
| hendrixski | good point | 06:39 |
| laga | oh, and linux-ubuntu-modules was not built properly against the -rt kernel. they had a new upload with the same major version number which changed the ABI but didn't rebuild that package | 06:39 |
| laga | not a bug in that kernel per se, just "beta" software ;) | 06:40 |
| hendrixski | is a realtime kernel a package option? I'm not seeing it... or did you compile it yourself? | 06:40 |
| laga | it's in gutsy | 06:40 |
| laga | package linux-rt | 06:40 |
| hendrixski | sweet | 06:40 |
| hendrixski | I keep hearing more and more good things about gutsy | 06:40 |
| hendrixski | except... that review they just posted on slashdot... but everything else is positive | 06:40 |
| laga | i use kde anyways | 06:41 |
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| hendrixski | laga, isn't a realtime kernel supposed to go more towards embedded devices and appliances? | 06:52 |
| hendrixski | and if so... has mythtv worked well for you on it? | 06:53 |
| laga | i havent really tried mythtv on it | 06:58 |
| laga | sound was broken for me, the kernel module needed to be re-linked | 06:58 |
| hendrixski | oh, but that'll probably be fixed before gutsy ships, right? | 06:59 |
| laga | of course | 07:04 |
| laga | well, at least i hope so. | 07:04 |
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| Corvix | does anyone have experience with EIT over DVB-S in Germany? I get a time difference in the EPG | 07:09 |
| laga | is your time zone set up correctly? | 07:10 |
| Corvix | runnin 0.20.2, gathering the data seems to work fine | 07:10 |
| Corvix | hmm ... | 07:10 |
| Corvix | it was set to Europe/London and I just reset it to Europe/Berlin | 07:10 |
| laga | Corvix: ls -al /etc/localtime | 07:10 |
| laga | yes, london is one hour behind us | 07:10 |
| Corvix | ok, after i set it to berlin, i guess ill change the time settings for xmltv and eit to auto and reboot | 07:11 |
| Corvix | do you think I'll have to delete existing eit data and repopulate it? | 07:12 |
| laga | i dunno | 07:12 |
| laga | :) | 07:12 |
| Corvix | more /etc/timezone | 07:12 |
| Corvix | gives Europe/Berlin, that should be ok or? | 07:12 |
| Corvix | hw clock is set to local time ... | 07:13 |
| laga | yes | 07:13 |
| laga | hum | 07:13 |
| laga | if your hwclock is set to local time, you might have to tell that to your distro | 07:13 |
| laga | oh, you're using ubuntu i gues | 07:13 |
| Corvix | jupp ... a commandline feisty with blackbox | 07:13 |
| laga | /etc/default/rcS | 07:14 |
| laga | check that file | 07:14 |
| laga | ok, i'm afk | 07:14 |
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| Corvix | utc=no | 07:15 |
| Corvix | that seems allright | 07:15 |
| Corvix | guess ill reboot and see what happens | 07:16 |
| Corvix | thatnks anyway so far | 07:16 |
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| Corvix | hmmm ... no success ... still a show that is on at 2000 shows up in the EPG at 1900 | 07:26 |
| Corvix | anyone else? do I have to clean out old EIT data and repopulate it? if so how? | 07:27 |
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| laga | Corvix_: you can empty the DB | 08:21 |
| laga | using "truncate", AFAIK... i usually use phpmyadmin for such tasks | 08:21 |
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| Rimers | hmm im starting to not like updates.... Sound is gone now :S | 08:25 |
| laga | on gutsy? | 08:25 |
| Rimers | yup | 08:26 |
| laga | using snd-hda-intel? | 08:27 |
| Rimers | had digital out working on my via ac97 | 08:27 |
| Rimers | and after an update there is no sound, ive been monkeying with the settings for 20 minutes now without luck | 08:27 |
| laga | is sound still working in other apps? | 08:27 |
| Rimers | as far as i can find out there is no sound at all | 08:28 |
| laga | hum | 08:28 |
| laga | is there anything in dmesg? | 08:28 |
| Rimers | ive checked that the module is loaded and that the mixer is set correctly | 08:28 |
| Rimers | as far as i can see there is no errors related to sound in dmesg | 08:29 |
| laga | and what happens if you use mplayer to play an mp3 file? | 08:29 |
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| Rimers | i have an anoying error though, my dvd drive is spamming me with http://pastebin.ca/704957 | 08:30 |
| superm1 | Rimers, either that disk is bad or the drive is dying | 08:33 |
| Rimers | but imstarting to beleive the dvd error is a cable error | 08:34 |
| Rimers | its my DVD drive | 08:34 |
| superm1 | well replacing the cable never hurts | 08:34 |
| laga | 20:16 < laga> and what happens if you use mplayer to play an mp3 file? | 08:35 |
| superm1 | huh? | 08:36 |
| Rimers | laga, havnt been able to test,, Wife watching tv atm, but been trying to play music and tv from mythtv without luck | 08:36 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, that is simply untrue | 08:36 |
| Rimers | it all worked before the update | 08:36 |
| tgm4883 | changing cables hurts over 1 american each year | 08:36 |
| superm1 | tgm4883, haha | 08:36 |
| tgm4883 | im starting a foundation dedicated just to that | 08:36 |
| superm1 | where do you gather these statistics | 08:36 |
| tgm4883 | we're going to have a telethon on PBS about it | 08:37 |
| superm1 | well too bad i dont watch PBS | 08:37 |
| superm1 | let me know when to schedule it | 08:37 |
| superm1 | will it be in hd? | 08:37 |
| tgm4883 | of couse :) | 08:37 |
| tgm4883 | for our statistics, we use the datum method | 08:38 |
| tgm4883 | it's a very technical process with a very complex mathmatical equation (A*.1543/(AB)/(3243*2354)245.321^2/(|32465BA|^|324|))^0 | 08:43 |
| superm1 | doesn't look very complex. looks like its just 1 | 08:43 |
| tgm4883 | are you questioning the equation? | 08:43 |
| tgm4883 | humph, you must be one of those people then | 08:44 |
| laga | superm1: did we ever finish talking about the dbg support for the fixes packages? | 08:48 |
| superm1 | well last i remember about it, you were adding a --compile-type=apport | 08:48 |
| superm1 | upstream | 08:48 |
| superm1 | did that ever happen? | 08:48 |
| laga | it's not committed yet, but danielk liked it. | 08:49 |
| superm1 | can you check with him on it? | 08:49 |
| superm1 | see if he can't get that added | 08:49 |
| superm1 | and then we can just pull a patch for it | 08:49 |
| laga | it won't get added to -fixes i' | 08:49 |
| laga | m afraid | 08:50 |
| superm1 | well that's okay, i can always pull a patch from trunk | 08:50 |
| superm1 | no rules against that | 08:50 |
| laga | tbh, the other guys changes were similar. he just optimized everywhere while keeping dbg symbols | 08:50 |
| laga | ok | 08:50 |
| laga | if it applies cleanly :) | 08:50 |
| laga | good. i'll poke him about it | 08:50 |
| laga | i can't get the "groovy dancing girl" song out of my head | 08:51 |
| laga | we gotta drop --enable-proc-opt. | 08:55 |
| laga | right, since our backtraces are useless anyways we can keep it for a while | 08:56 |
| superm1 | well once you get this --apport thing in | 08:56 |
| superm1 | i'll do a local build | 08:56 |
| superm1 | and test some hd stuff against it | 08:56 |
| superm1 | because that is the only place i forsee suffrage | 08:57 |
| superm1 | i was going to prep another 'mythtv' upload for right after beta | 08:57 |
| superm1 | so once you've got this ready to go, i'll plan to have this in there and be the first build like that | 08:57 |
| laga | ok. | 08:57 |
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| frink_ | hmm, something deletes my botch symlink from /dev/lirc to /dev/lirc0 | 09:01 |
| laga | udev? | 09:02 |
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| hendrixski | there is a mythstream package fr Ubuntu, yes? | 10:07 |
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| tgm4883 | yes | 10:24 |
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| hendrixski | tgm4883_laptop, is it on some special repository? | 10:29 |
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| tgm4883_laptop | hendrixski, what version are you using? Feisty, Gutsy? | 10:48 |
| hendrixski | tgm4883_laptop, tgm4883 I'm on feisty | 10:52 |
| hendrixski | oh, is there a gutsy package? Is it backportable to 7.04 | 10:52 |
| tgm4883 | nope, just a gutsy package | 10:53 |
| tgm4883 | I think something changed between gutsy and feisty for things like mythstream | 10:54 |
| tgm4883 | to be easily added | 10:54 |
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| hendrixski | sweet | 10:55 |
| hendrixski | So I should grab a gutsy repository, take a feisty pbuilder and run the packaging thing on it and it should be all fine, right? | 10:56 |
| tgm4883 | eh | 10:57 |
| tgm4883 | perhaps | 10:57 |
| tgm4883 | you wouldn't want to grab the gutsy repo | 10:57 |
| tgm4883 | unless you were going to update | 10:57 |
| tgm4883 | as it's in universe | 10:57 |
| hendrixski | ah, Ok | 10:58 |
| tgm4883 | eh, worth a shot I suppose | 10:58 |
| hendrixski | oh, I misread what you wrote, you said things did change between the two | 10:58 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 10:58 |
| tgm4883 | you can always add it manually | 10:59 |
| hendrixski | oh? if I compiled it, wouldn't it go into the wrong directory? | 10:59 |
| tgm4883 | theres 2 things you could try | 10:59 |
| tgm4883 | 1st being just compiling the package from the gutsy repo | 11:00 |
| tgm4883 | the other being installing from source | 11:00 |
| tgm4883 | the change that I was talking about | 11:00 |
| tgm4883 | is that I think in gutsy it is easier for packages to update mythtv menus | 11:01 |
| tgm4883 | but i could be completely wrong about that | 11:01 |
| hendrixski | tgm4883, ooh, how did they change the menu management... 'cause I was wondering about that | 11:02 |
| tgm4883 | I'd ask superm1 about that, as he would know more than I. | 11:02 |
| hendrixski | like if I wanted to take one of the unofficial plugins and package, how would I not f*** everything up by having to overwrite the menus | 11:02 |
| tgm4883 | I just take orders from him :) | 11:02 |
| hendrixski | I C | 11:02 |
| hendrixski | is that documented anywhere by any chance? | 11:02 |
| tgm4883 | most likely | 11:03 |
| tgm4883 | if your just wanting to package unofficial plugins | 11:03 |
| tgm4883 | have you read the packing doc (or already know how to package?) | 11:03 |
| hendrixski | tgm4883, I've done a few for myself, but it's not a work of art I'd show to anyone else | 11:04 |
| tgm4883 | well there are a few things that you have to adhere to for it to go into universe | 11:05 |
| hendrixski | :-) changing files in other packages is one of those things to adhere to... | 11:06 |
| hendrixski | hence why I was wondering how to add plugins without changing menu files that belong to other packages | 11:06 |
| hendrixski | if superm1 already solved that one, that's awesome | 11:06 |
| hendrixski | I guess I'll just make a schroot with gutsy and take a look at the packages... 'cause google isn't looking very promising | 11:07 |
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| MythbuntuGuest04 | Hi all! | 11:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest04 | I am having trouble with my PVR 350 getting channels above 12 | 11:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest04 | I am wondering where to start | 11:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest04 | any IVTV experts here? | 11:15 |
| laga | hendrixski: it's called a diversion | 11:17 |
| laga | hendrixski: mythbuntu-control-centre does it | 11:17 |
| hendrixski | oh? | 11:18 |
| laga | ymstart be asking google? | 11:18 |
| laga | MythbuntuGuest04: start by asking google? | 11:18 |
| hendrixski | lol, when I google for anything with diversion all these spanish links come up | 11:20 |
| hendrixski | :-/ and I learned French in school | 11:20 |
| hendrixski | laga, so if someone wanted to make a package of the hundreds of mythtv plugins that are on sourceforge... they'd have to have it go through mythbuntu-control-centre? | 11:22 |
| laga | ah, noce. | 11:23 |
| laga | mythbuntu-control-centre kinda ships with its own version of the settings main menu file | 11:23 |
| laga | it'll be possible soon (AFAIK) to have xml include sfor themes. if that applies to menu themes as well i dunno | 11:23 |
| hendrixski | ah | 11:24 |
| laga | in trunk, that is | 11:25 |
| hendrixski | hhmm... I'll definately have to take a look at that... when did the control center first start development? | 11:27 |
| laga | btw, | 11:27 |
| laga | err | 11:27 |
| laga | maybe a few months ago | 11:27 |
| laga | btw,. diversions are not feature of the controlc entre itself but of debian's package management | 11:28 |
| hendrixski | oh, I didn't catch that part before... | 11:29 |
| hendrixski | diversions are described in the debian packiging guide? | 11:29 |
| laga | probably | 11:30 |
| laga | back to the ps2! :) | 11:31 |
| hendrixski | k. well, thanks for the explanation | 11:31 |
| hendrixski | that gave me a lot of great stuff to start reading about that I wouldn't have got otherwise | 11:31 |
| hendrixski | thanks laga | 11:31 |
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| frink_ | hey all | 11:45 |
| frink_ | hey laga | 11:45 |
| tgm4883 | any know what the status of us getting on ubuntu servers for ISO distrobution is? | 12:11 |
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| superm1 | laga, !!!! | 12:18 |
| superm1 | its fixed | 12:18 |
| superm1 | unionfs :) | 12:19 |
| Daviey | I noticed that bug on boot up, was that causing you issues? | 12:20 |
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| [_Trimble_] | hi all, im back | 12:40 |
| superm1 | Daviey, you mena the unionfs? | 12:46 |
| superm1 | yes | 12:46 |
| superm1 | that was causing more issues than you can shake a stick at | 12:47 |
| [_Trimble_] | ok, i'm going to try again to attack the pvr-150 blaster on gutsy. | 12:47 |
| [_Trimble_] | superm1, you said i dont have to redo the kernel module.. but I apparently DO need to re-run the config to get the lirc_pvr150 driver into play | 12:47 |
| [_Trimble_] | and if I'mreading right, NOT the lirc_i2c module | 12:48 |
| superm1 | well for now, edit the /etc/lirc/hardware.conf | 12:48 |
| superm1 | and replace lirc_i2c with lirc_pvr150 | 12:48 |
| [_Trimble_] | just do that? | 12:49 |
| [_Trimble_] | is lirc_pvr150 even on my machine i wonder? how do i checkthat it's tehre? | 12:49 |
| [_Trimble_] | i can never remember stuff.. lemme check my notes before y'all tell me the answer is on google | 12:50 |
| tgm4883 | woohoo home time | 12:50 |
| tgm4883 | back in a bit | 12:51 |
| tgm4883 | back | 12:51 |
| tgm4883 | it's really sweet being able to work from home ;) Makes that trip home fly by | 12:52 |
| [_Trimble_] | yeah tellme about it.. i work from home every day now | 12:52 |
| superm1 | yeah it should be there | 12:52 |
| [_Trimble_] | there are hidden disadvantages though... like "honey, would you empty the dishwasher?" "I'm in a freakin meeting, dear!" | 12:52 |
| superm1 | all the modules are built | 12:52 |
| tgm4883 | Now I need to get a sprint wireless card and a lockpick set. Then I could work from other peoples home | 12:52 |
| tgm4883 | so true | 12:53 |
| [_Trimble_] | need to reboot? or can I just restart lirc? | 12:53 |
| laga | superm1: cool. | 12:53 |
| superm1 | just restart lirc | 12:53 |
| superm1 | laga, i'll try a build tonight | 12:53 |
| laga | that's great | 12:53 |
| [_Trimble_] | sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart ? | 12:53 |
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| morphinex | howdy | 12:57 |
| laga | superm1: i'm building a livedisk with trunk packages right now | 12:58 |
| tgm4883 | hi morphinex | 12:59 |
| superm1 | laga, hopefully the package has cleared the queue | 12:59 |
| superm1 | i just saw the bug report telling me it was cleared | 12:59 |
| superm1 | and that's all i knew | 12:59 |
| morphinex | I'm just about to replace my FC6 install with mythbuntu this evening | 12:59 |
| tgm4883 | sweet | 01:00 |
| morphinex | hoping it goes smoothly... will the ubuntu installed be able to deal with my lvm /video partition right? | 01:00 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, comments of lvm and mythbuntu? | 01:00 |
| morphinex | I obviously want to preserve my recordings | 01:01 |
| tgm4883 | of course | 01:01 |
| laga | superm1: there's no kernel update on my gutsy box. it'll take some more time i guess | 01:03 |
| superm1 | laga, :( | 01:03 |
| superm1 | well the bug just published like an hour ago | 01:03 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, does lvm work oob? | 01:04 |
| superm1 | well lvm is a funny thing | 01:04 |
| superm1 | because there is no support in ubiquity for it | 01:04 |
| superm1 | but | 01:04 |
| superm1 | but if your extra partition is lvm, you can just format the one partition | 01:05 |
| superm1 | and then leave the other one intact | 01:05 |
| morphinex | yeah, I guess thaty is what I'll dop | 01:05 |
| morphinex | does mythbuntu support jfs? | 01:06 |
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| laga | ubuntu: an ancient african word meaning "i can't install debian" | 01:06 |
| superm1 | i'm going to discuss lvm at UDS with the installer guys | 01:06 |
| superm1 | yes | 01:06 |
| superm1 | jfs is supported | 01:06 |
| morphinex | i know the alternate install iso of 7.04 has some kind of lvm support | 01:07 |
| superm1 | i'm more partial to xfs myself, but you all the common filesystems are doable | 01:07 |
| superm1 | yeah you can do lvm in the alternate only atm | 01:07 |
| [_Trimble_] | HMM... | 01:09 |
| [_Trimble_] | irsend: hardware does not support sending | 01:09 |
| [_Trimble_] | i did something wrong | 01:09 |
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| Mersault | Hello laga, I come for information. | 01:10 |
| [_Trimble_] | i updated hardware.conf, pushed in my customized lircd.conf that includes blaster codes, and restarted lirc. tested irw, works fine, but irsend complains :( | 01:10 |
| Mersault | are the svn trunk packages linked to from the mythbuntu website working yet? | 01:11 |
| superm1 | [_Trimble_] , make sure that lirc_pvr150 is loaded and not lirc_i2c? | 01:12 |
| [_Trimble_] | how? | 01:12 |
| superm1 | lsmod | 01:12 |
| [_Trimble_] | oh | 01:12 |
| superm1 | lsmod | grep lirc | 01:12 |
| [_Trimble_] | gotcha thx | 01:12 |
| laga | Mersault: yes, they should. you'll probably run into an issue when updating the plugins, so i recomemnd you remove them before installing the trunk versions. a fix will be released later this week | 01:13 |
| [_Trimble_] | im restarting the box atm, will check in a sec | 01:13 |
| superm1 | laga, okay i just synced weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org since they are working again | 01:13 |
| Mersault | laga, do I need to do anything special like a --purge, or just remove them without anything special? | 01:13 |
| laga | Mersault: removing them normally should be fine | 01:14 |
| Mersault | just the plugins, or the frontend too? | 01:14 |
| laga | Mersault: just the plugins. mythweather and mythmusic, AFAIK | 01:15 |
| laga | Mersault: you'll find out :) | 01:15 |
| Mersault | true dat | 01:17 |
| [_Trimble_] | does the internal player use .srt files for subtitles? | 01:17 |
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