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bryceyup, built fine.  Just had to add a build dep for xextproto12:41
keescookoop, tormod vanished.  yup, I set the maintainer field for him.01:43
ubotuNew bug: #141117 in xorg (main) "backlight-decrease key works, increase doesn't (Dell Inspiron 9400, nvidia binary driver)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14111702:20
ubotuNew bug: #141118 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  cursor endian problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14111802:45
ubotuNew bug: #141119 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  X locks on console switch on powerbook" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14111902:50
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ubotuNew bug: #141132 in xorg (main) "[gutsy]  strange freeze-up until mouse moves" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14113205:11
ubotuNew bug: #141146 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "DPI is set incorrectly by new driver, even when DisplaySize is set in xorg.conf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14114607:15
brycetepsipakki: 6.7.193 is out07:31
tepsipakkiwow, I'll package that07:31
tepsipakkis/package/merge/07:58
ubotuNew bug: #141152 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "radeon driver crash (gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14115208:01
ubotuNew bug: #141161 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[regression]  after recent upgrade to 6.7.192-4ubuntu1 dual-head support is broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14116109:05
brycefeh, -ati has no end of bugs :-)09:08
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jcristaubryce: 141161 isn't really a surprise, as the randr-1.2 driver drops support for mergedfb and zaphod09:47
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ubotuNew bug: #141207 in ubuntu "black horizontal bar covering 25% of screen as soon as gnome display manager starts up (dup-of: 137604)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14120702:20
ubotuNew bug: #64023 in xorg (main) "The system crashes after I login, switch users, login, and switch back" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6402305:19
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ubotuNew bug: #141262 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa (main) "Installing Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 tribe 5, can't start X becouse of X1300 (dup-of: 89853)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14126205:55
ubotuNew bug: #141288 in xft (main) "Enable sub-pixel rendering" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14128806:30
brycejcristau: right06:30
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bdmurraybryce: Have you revisited 134284? The reporter provided lspci info07:34
bryceoh thanks07:49
bryceI think it's too late to get changes in to main though07:49
bdmurrayI'll approve it. ;)07:57
bdmurraybryce: I just noticed that if I switch from vty7 to vty1 things go very bad.08:10
bdmurrayI have blinking boxes all over the screen and the system responds to no keypresses.  I am using intel on an i915.08:11
brycebdmurray: I've uploaded a debdiff for 13428408:13
bryceer, uploaded to the bug report08:13
brycevty7 to vty1 works fine for me on my 945gm laptop; was just playing with that yesterday08:14
bdmurrayhrm, I'm trying to reproduce it08:18
bdmurrayI got different weird stuff to happen this time08:25
bryce"different weird stuff happens."  heh you're as bad as the bug reporters you complain about brian ;-)08:27
bdmurrayI haven't submitted a report though. ;)08:28
bdmurrayI think I have steps to reproduce now.  My poor laptop.08:29
bdmurraybryce: Which debugging page will help me gather the right information?08:33
bryceheh, we need to simplify all that08:34
brycejust the usual - xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, lspci -vvnn, photo if possible08:34
brycethe photo could be quite handy in this case - your problem sounds a lot like these other intel ones that have been reported08:35
bdmurrayIt fully locks up the system.  That'll still be in Xorg.0.log?08:35
brycein fact, it would be helpful if you could see if you're reproducing one of the existing bug reports, as then we'd have hardware we could test on08:35
bryceyup, or Xorg.0.log.old08:35
brycedepending on how you reboot08:35
bdmurraycool08:35
brycetwo things we're looking for - generic info like versions and such, that will be there regardless, and second any error messages listed at the end, which could prove illuminating08:36
bdmurrayThere are some odd TV out things in my log, I can get it the crash to happen somewhat reliably after watching video.08:50
brycethere's some known issues around TV out on the intel card08:50
bryceI think they're hardware bugs though - I notice X simply disables tv-out to solve them08:51
bdmurrayI wasn't hooked up to a TV though08:51
bdmurrayIs that part of being able to playback video with compiz08:51
brycewell the bug was something about the tv-out output being enabled inappropriately - when no tv was in use08:51
bryceno, that's a different issue08:52
bdmurrayAh, that makes sense08:52
brycehey, do you know who does the release notes for gutsy?  I need to add a bit to it about -ati and mergedfb/xrandr08:53
bdmurrayWith Feisty they were a wiki page and then migrated to www.ubuntu.com08:55
bdmurrayOr so I thought I'm not finding a Feisty one at the moment08:56
bdmurraybryce: do you believe there is an existing bug report in launchapd then or should I submit a new one?09:55
bryceI believe there's an existing one09:59
bdmurrayyeah, bug 127101 is very close10:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127101 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "laptop hangs when switching video mode" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12710110:00
bdmurrayThe video shows what I see10:00
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bdmurrayIs there anything more I can do to help with it?10:06
brycecould you attach your logs and confs and stuff?  sometimes it can be helpful to compare these for several people experiencing the issue, to look for possible commonalities10:10
bryceother than that, no, looks like this bug is already known to upstreams, so it'll be a matter of waiting for a fix from them10:11
bryceyeah, there's nothing more we can do on our end; we need to keep an eye on what upstream does and backport the fix if/when it emerges10:21
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joumetalbryce in bug #137604 ppa1 works for me others don't10:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137604 in xorg-server "Black Bar Across Screen with gutsy i810" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13760410:35
brycejoumetal: really!  interesting, not what I would have expected10:36
brycejoumetal: you tested all four?10:36
joumetalyes. I hope I didn't made any mistakes.10:37
bryceok, well if you're right, this narrows it down to just a few patches10:37
brycethanks! btw :-)10:37
joumetalmy pleasure.10:38
brycenarrows it to 4 patches specifically10:38
bdmurraybryce: Ooh, I got a much better log this time10:47
bdmurray"Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds" is part of it10:48
bryceah good10:49
brycethat sounds familiar though - I think it might be a generic error message10:49
joumetalas a guess patch 214 could be the one.10:55
bdmurrayLaunchpad says my log file is trash, I'm a bit offended.  Xorg log file from after a crash  (63.0 KiB, application/x-trash)11:02
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brycehey, I've closed bug 22985 (and its 25!! dupes) as Fixed just now.  \o/11:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 22985 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[x700]  fails to infer lvds for primary connector on acer ferrari 4005 | card detected, but driver fails to use right output port" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2298511:09
bdmurraySweet!11:10
brycejoumetal: I've posted ~ppa5 which has just patch 214 disabled - could you test this and see if it works?  If it does then we have our smoking gun.11:23
brycejoumetal: ~ppa6 with 208 disabled is coming soon11:23
joumetalyes I'll test11:25
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jounibryce ppa5 works for me :)11:30
bryceawesome11:31
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joumetalbryce  so you don't need to do more builds.11:33
bryceyup, now to roll out this change11:34
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bryceheya rawler11:49
rawlerbryce: hey11:53
brycerawler: btw, I've also set up a ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list.  So far very low traffic, but it's planned for use during Hardy for testing/development of ubuntu-specific Xorg work.  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-x11:53
rawlerbryce: just popping in, so I don't forget.. :)11:53
rawlerbryce: *ahh* I see.. is there a launchpad-team?11:54
bryceyup, it's called X-Swat11:54
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brycethere's also a thread on ubuntuforums.org in the Gutsy Development area, for Xorg testing, which is where most of the ati testers gather11:55
ubotuNew bug: #141372 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[gutsy]  failure detecting DVI since xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.7.192" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/14137211:55
rawlerbryce: goodie.. I'll joing up on the launchpad team, and look tomorrow if there's something I can do.. :)11:56
bryceawesome, good to have you :-)11:56
rawlerbryce: well wait until I've actually done something to say that.. ;)11:57
brycehehe11:57
rawlerskimming through the buglist it seems most of them are kernel and/or hardware specific.. but i seen one or two I think I can handle.. :)11:59
bryceyup11:59
brycethere's probably many that can (should) be linked to upstream bug reports12:00
bryceeither at nvidia, or kernel or fdo12:00
rawleryeah.. will look at it tomorrow.. for now I'll go to bed.. gotta big-ass ill-handled mess of a software release to deal with tomorrow.. (trust me, comparing that mess with the tracking launchpad offers, is like comparing a rotting corpse to a shiny new corvette cruiser)12:01
rawlerso nighty, and ttl..12:02
brycenight12:02
brycehehe12:02

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