[12:41] <bryce> yup, built fine.  Just had to add a build dep for xextproto
[01:43] <keescook> oop, tormod vanished.  yup, I set the maintainer field for him.
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141117 in xorg (main) "backlight-decrease key works, increase doesn't (Dell Inspiron 9400, nvidia binary driver)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141117
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141118 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  cursor endian problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141118
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #141119 in xorg-server (main) "[gutsy]  X locks on console switch on powerbook" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141119
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141132 in xorg (main) "[gutsy]  strange freeze-up until mouse moves" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141132
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #141146 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "DPI is set incorrectly by new driver, even when DisplaySize is set in xorg.conf" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141146
[07:31] <bryce> tepsipakki: 6.7.193 is out
[07:31] <tepsipakki> wow, I'll package that
[07:58] <tepsipakki> s/package/merge/
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #141152 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "radeon driver crash (gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141152
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #141161 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[regression]  after recent upgrade to 6.7.192-4ubuntu1 dual-head support is broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141161
[09:08] <bryce> feh, -ati has no end of bugs :-)
[09:47] <jcristau> bryce: 141161 isn't really a surprise, as the randr-1.2 driver drops support for mergedfb and zaphod
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #141207 in ubuntu "black horizontal bar covering 25% of screen as soon as gnome display manager starts up (dup-of: 137604)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141207
[05:19] <ubotu> New bug: #64023 in xorg (main) "The system crashes after I login, switch users, login, and switch back" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64023
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141262 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa (main) "Installing Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 tribe 5, can't start X becouse of X1300 (dup-of: 89853)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141262
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #141288 in xft (main) "Enable sub-pixel rendering" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141288
[06:30] <bryce> jcristau: right
[07:34] <bdmurray> bryce: Have you revisited 134284? The reporter provided lspci info
[07:49] <bryce> oh thanks
[07:49] <bryce> I think it's too late to get changes in to main though
[07:57] <bdmurray> I'll approve it. ;)
[08:10] <bdmurray> bryce: I just noticed that if I switch from vty7 to vty1 things go very bad.
[08:11] <bdmurray> I have blinking boxes all over the screen and the system responds to no keypresses.  I am using intel on an i915.
[08:13] <bryce> bdmurray: I've uploaded a debdiff for 134284
[08:13] <bryce> er, uploaded to the bug report
[08:14] <bryce> vty7 to vty1 works fine for me on my 945gm laptop; was just playing with that yesterday
[08:18] <bdmurray> hrm, I'm trying to reproduce it
[08:25] <bdmurray> I got different weird stuff to happen this time
[08:27] <bryce> "different weird stuff happens."  heh you're as bad as the bug reporters you complain about brian ;-)
[08:28] <bdmurray> I haven't submitted a report though. ;)
[08:29] <bdmurray> I think I have steps to reproduce now.  My poor laptop.
[08:33] <bdmurray> bryce: Which debugging page will help me gather the right information?
[08:34] <bryce> heh, we need to simplify all that
[08:34] <bryce> just the usual - xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, lspci -vvnn, photo if possible
[08:35] <bryce> the photo could be quite handy in this case - your problem sounds a lot like these other intel ones that have been reported
[08:35] <bdmurray> It fully locks up the system.  That'll still be in Xorg.0.log?
[08:35] <bryce> in fact, it would be helpful if you could see if you're reproducing one of the existing bug reports, as then we'd have hardware we could test on
[08:35] <bryce> yup, or Xorg.0.log.old
[08:35] <bryce> depending on how you reboot
[08:35] <bdmurray> cool
[08:36] <bryce> two things we're looking for - generic info like versions and such, that will be there regardless, and second any error messages listed at the end, which could prove illuminating
[08:50] <bdmurray> There are some odd TV out things in my log, I can get it the crash to happen somewhat reliably after watching video.
[08:50] <bryce> there's some known issues around TV out on the intel card
[08:51] <bryce> I think they're hardware bugs though - I notice X simply disables tv-out to solve them
[08:51] <bdmurray> I wasn't hooked up to a TV though
[08:51] <bdmurray> Is that part of being able to playback video with compiz
[08:51] <bryce> well the bug was something about the tv-out output being enabled inappropriately - when no tv was in use
[08:52] <bryce> no, that's a different issue
[08:52] <bdmurray> Ah, that makes sense
[08:53] <bryce> hey, do you know who does the release notes for gutsy?  I need to add a bit to it about -ati and mergedfb/xrandr
[08:55] <bdmurray> With Feisty they were a wiki page and then migrated to www.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <bdmurray> Or so I thought I'm not finding a Feisty one at the moment
[09:55] <bdmurray> bryce: do you believe there is an existing bug report in launchapd then or should I submit a new one?
[09:59] <bryce> I believe there's an existing one
[10:00] <bdmurray> yeah, bug 127101 is very close
[10:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127101 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "laptop hangs when switching video mode" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127101
[10:00] <bdmurray> The video shows what I see
[10:06] <bdmurray> Is there anything more I can do to help with it?
[10:10] <bryce> could you attach your logs and confs and stuff?  sometimes it can be helpful to compare these for several people experiencing the issue, to look for possible commonalities
[10:11] <bryce> other than that, no, looks like this bug is already known to upstreams, so it'll be a matter of waiting for a fix from them
[10:21] <bryce> yeah, there's nothing more we can do on our end; we need to keep an eye on what upstream does and backport the fix if/when it emerges
[10:35] <joumetal> bryce in bug #137604 ppa1 works for me others don't
[10:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137604 in xorg-server "Black Bar Across Screen with gutsy i810" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137604
[10:36] <bryce> joumetal: really!  interesting, not what I would have expected
[10:36] <bryce> joumetal: you tested all four?
[10:37] <joumetal> yes. I hope I didn't made any mistakes.
[10:37] <bryce> ok, well if you're right, this narrows it down to just a few patches
[10:37] <bryce> thanks! btw :-)
[10:38] <joumetal> my pleasure.
[10:38] <bryce> narrows it to 4 patches specifically
[10:47] <bdmurray> bryce: Ooh, I got a much better log this time
[10:48] <bdmurray> "Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds" is part of it
[10:49] <bryce> ah good
[10:49] <bryce> that sounds familiar though - I think it might be a generic error message
[10:55] <joumetal> as a guess patch 214 could be the one.
[11:02] <bdmurray> Launchpad says my log file is trash, I'm a bit offended.  Xorg log file from after a crash  (63.0 KiB, application/x-trash)
[11:09] <bryce> hey, I've closed bug 22985 (and its 25!! dupes) as Fixed just now.  \o/
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 22985 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[x700]  fails to infer lvds for primary connector on acer ferrari 4005 | card detected, but driver fails to use right output port" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/22985
[11:10] <bdmurray> Sweet!
[11:23] <bryce> joumetal: I've posted ~ppa5 which has just patch 214 disabled - could you test this and see if it works?  If it does then we have our smoking gun.
[11:23] <bryce> joumetal: ~ppa6 with 208 disabled is coming soon
[11:25] <joumetal> yes I'll test
[11:30] <jouni> bryce ppa5 works for me :)
[11:31] <bryce> awesome
[11:33] <joumetal> bryce  so you don't need to do more builds.
[11:34] <bryce> yup, now to roll out this change
[11:49] <bryce> heya rawler
[11:53] <rawler> bryce: hey
[11:53] <bryce> rawler: btw, I've also set up a ubuntu-x@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list.  So far very low traffic, but it's planned for use during Hardy for testing/development of ubuntu-specific Xorg work.  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-x
[11:53] <rawler> bryce: just popping in, so I don't forget.. :)
[11:54] <rawler> bryce: *ahh* I see.. is there a launchpad-team?
[11:54] <bryce> yup, it's called X-Swat
[11:55] <bryce> there's also a thread on ubuntuforums.org in the Gutsy Development area, for Xorg testing, which is where most of the ati testers gather
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #141372 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[gutsy]  failure detecting DVI since xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.7.192" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141372
[11:56] <rawler> bryce: goodie.. I'll joing up on the launchpad team, and look tomorrow if there's something I can do.. :)
[11:56] <bryce> awesome, good to have you :-)
[11:57] <rawler> bryce: well wait until I've actually done something to say that.. ;)
[11:57] <bryce> hehe
[11:59] <rawler> skimming through the buglist it seems most of them are kernel and/or hardware specific.. but i seen one or two I think I can handle.. :)
[11:59] <bryce> yup
[12:00] <bryce> there's probably many that can (should) be linked to upstream bug reports
[12:00] <bryce> either at nvidia, or kernel or fdo
[12:01] <rawler> yeah.. will look at it tomorrow.. for now I'll go to bed.. gotta big-ass ill-handled mess of a software release to deal with tomorrow.. (trust me, comparing that mess with the tracking launchpad offers, is like comparing a rotting corpse to a shiny new corvette cruiser)
[12:02] <rawler> so nighty, and ttl..
[12:02] <bryce> night
[12:02] <bryce> hehe