[01:30] <greg> !rdc
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <greg> whats the app for rdc called?
[01:36] <nonlocal> rdesktop?
[01:36] <nonlocal> not sure what you mean by rdc
[01:43] <greg> remote desktop connection
[01:43] <greg> the thing that comes with ubuntu
[01:54] <Pumpernickel> !vnc
[01:54] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:14] <greg> !FreeNX
[02:14] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:40] <greg> greg@cheeseboy:~$ rdesktop -f -a 16 -p x 192.168.1.2
[02:40] <greg> Autoselected keyboard map en-us
[02:40] <greg> ERROR: connect: Connection refused
[02:40] <greg> >:(
[02:41] <greg> how i fix?
[03:32] <homebrewcider> can someone point me to the latest gtk install in a deb file please?
[04:16] <j1mc> does anyone have a digital camera that they use with xubuntu?
[04:17] <homebrewcider> yes, I do
[04:17] <homebrewcider> sony dsc-p73
[04:18] <j1mc> what does xubuntu do when you plug it in?
[04:18] <j1mc> does it automatically detect it?
[04:18] <j1mc> or do you use a different application?
[04:18] <homebrewcider> yes
[04:18] <maxamillion> j1mc: no, i use gThumb
[04:18] <homebrewcider> but I use digikam
[04:18] <maxamillion> j1mc: install gThumb ... it has a detect and import feature
[04:19] <maxamillion> digikam == kde dependencies
[04:19] <homebrewcider> and download photos using that
[04:19] <j1mc> homebrewcider: what do you mean by 'yes'?  :)
[04:19] <j1mc> hi maxamillion
[04:19] <homebrewcider> he asked if it automatically detected it, I said yes
[04:20] <j1mc> homebrewcider: thanks.
[04:21] <j1mc> maxamillion: i'm asking in regards to documentation.
[04:21] <j1mc> i've been traveling on vacation, and am trying to wrap things up.
[04:22] <maxamillion> j1mc: ah ... well i haven't seen the change log for gutsy, but feisty didn't come default with anything
[04:22] <homebrewcider> use digikam
[04:23] <j1mc> homebrewcider: thanks.  i might reference digikam, but like maxamillion said, it wouldn't be a preferred application for xubuntu because of its kde library dependencies.
[04:23] <maxamillion> yeah ... or don't
[04:24] <maxamillion> digikam pulls KDE libraries and will bloat user resources
[04:29] <homebrewcider> ok
[04:29] <homebrewcider> whatever
[04:31] <gerro> umm on xubuntu gutsy it has segmentation fault when i try to remove 2nd panel
[04:31] <gerro> where would I look into info about this I wanted to test it out :)
[04:57] <Jester45> gerro try #ubuntu+1
[06:00] <javier> how do i change my resolution to 1440x900?
[06:01] <javier> i can only go up to 1024x768
[06:22] <ceil420> does anyone know how i can disable 'Enable Sound Server Startup' in Xubuntu? This thing says it's in "System > Preferences > Sound", but there is no System > Preferences in Xubuntu
[06:26] <xork> i just upgraded video cards (holy crap it's fast), and i already had nvidia drivers loaded in xorg and it took to them fine
[06:26] <xork> since it's a newer card
[06:27] <xork> is there any advantage to going to nvidia-new-glx or whatever the package is?
[02:05] <Michael> how to hide windows and show desktop via command on xubuntu?
[02:10] <Michael> who can help me?
[02:13] <pleia2> Michael: ctrl alt d
[02:14] <Michael> thanks
[02:14] <pleia2> welcome
[02:46] <Michael> pleia2,  is there a command to show desktop? I want to set a keybind via xbindkeys
[02:49] <TheSheep> Michael: wmctrl -k on
[02:58] <Michael> TheSheep, great! thanks
[02:59] <Michael> i love ubuntu
[02:59] <TheSheep> Michael: wmctrl has a great number of other neat options
[03:00] <TheSheep> Michael: btw, you can assing a key to show desktop in the wm settings dialog
[03:01] <TheSheep> Michael: no need to use xbindkeys for that
[03:01] <Michael> pls say more info
[03:03] <kritzstapf> which ftp-client do you recommend?
[03:06] <krishaaan> hi
[03:06] <Michael> filezilla. but its site manager is not good
[03:06] <krishaaan> rijo, ?
[03:07] <kritzstapf> krishaaan: hi :)
[03:07] <krishaaan> ah kritzstapf :)
[03:07] <kritzstapf> krishaaan: Michael just suggested filezilla
[03:07] <krishaaan> k
[03:07] <Michael> up to now, i can't find a ftp-client with gui has a good site manager.
[03:08] <Michael> by the way, i want to know what's the meaning of btw? english is not my mother language.
[03:08] <krishaaan> lol
[04:13] <nikolam> Hello
[04:51] <Michael> anyone use promail?
[04:54] <Michael> I subscribed some mailing lists, such as VIM user. I want to class them. e.g. emails from vim user are placed in vim-user directory.
[04:54] <Michael> thanks
[05:06] <askatasuna> hello i cannot find ip_forward on xubuntu
[05:06] <askatasuna> someone knows how can i do
[05:07] <Vinze> askatasuna, I'm no good at it, but is this what you mean? http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[06:31] <twiggz> i need a recommendation for a program....ive got a 15 year old ..i put xubuntu fiesty on her laptop...now i want to install a program that will keep tabs on what she does...and email the logs to say..my gmail...
[06:32] <TheSheep> haha
[06:32] <twiggz> whats funny about that?
[06:33] <twiggz> are you 15 too?
[06:33] <twiggz> lol
[06:33] <twiggz> cos yes, i would find that to be funny myself.
[06:33] <TheSheep> twiggz: you want to log mouse clicks?
[06:33] <twiggz> no, just sites she visits really.
[06:33] <twiggz> she really only uses firefox and gaim.
[06:33] <TheSheep> ah, that's doable
[06:34] <twiggz> well, im sure it is..i just dont know what to look for..ive never had a 15 year old before..lol
[06:35] <twiggz> her mother wants to know what shes doing online.
[06:35] <TheSheep> twiggz: just enable logging in the firewall
[06:36] <TheSheep> twiggz: there should be a howto somewhere
[06:36] <TheSheep> twiggz: mailing the logs is a little bit more complicated
[06:36] <nonlocal> I have some slapped together scripts that break up my irc logs and mail them to my gmail in chunks...
[06:37] <twiggz> well, i suppose as long as it logs to begin with ..that would be enough.
[06:37] <nonlocal> perhaps they could be of use
[06:37] <twiggz> well, also..is there any sort of realtime monitor we could use?
[06:40] <nonlocal> so you can rush in and interrupt and kiddieporn? haha
[06:40] <nonlocal> sorry
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: you could connect with VNC in a 'view only' mode
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: or just collect screenshots periodically
[06:40] <TheSheep> twiggz: we do that for some offices
[06:41] <twiggz> yes nonlocal, so we can run in and interrupt her porn surfing.
[06:41] <twiggz> lol
[06:43] <nonlocal> twiggz:  Again, I'm sorry if I was innapropriate. I remember how important free surfing/hacking/etc was to me when I was 15, even though I did a lot of stuff I'm sure my parents wouldn't have approved of. Not my place, though.
[06:43] <TheSheep> twiggz: here's how to set up logging: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[06:45] <TheSheep> twiggz: you could also set the computer so that all the web pages can only be retrieved via web proxy, and collect better logs on that proxy (and optionally do some filetring)
[07:15] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: hiho
[07:16] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: hello
[07:17] <hyper__ch> there's a nice article on howtoforge :)
[07:17] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: http://www.howtoforge.com/mysecureshell_sftp_debian_etch
[07:18] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: you think that also works for feisty?
[07:20] <TheSheep> hyper__ch: the package names will be different
[07:20] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: are you sure they are different?
[07:20] <zoredache> TheSheep: are you sure?  98% of debian packages have the same name...
[07:21] <TheSheep> zoredache: you want newer ones :)
[07:24] <TheSheep> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=117807
[07:24] <hyper__ch> :) it looks quite interesting
[07:49] <jessejazza> Hi - hoping someone can help. I have ubuntu 6.10 installed on a compaq p3 1ghz 512mb. Thought i'd try XFCE as the PC is a little older than most. However i get the bug report - there seems to be a file that doesn't download. Is this a known problem?
[07:53] <zoredache> jessejazza: are you trying to do this from synaptic or the commandline?
[07:53] <jessejazza> synaptic
[07:54] <zoredache> you might try an 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' from a terminal
[07:55] <hyper__ch> but first close synaptic
[07:55] <zoredache> jessejazza: do you have any nonstandard repositories?  it is also possible that you have a sources.list that is creating a situation that makes xfce uninstallable
[07:56] <jessejazza> is there any difference between the two. Synaptic i thought was the better route as it's visual and lets you know the dependencies.
[07:57] <zoredache> jessejazza: but the command line gives you more detail about errors
[07:57] <zoredache> if everything is working then the gui is fine... but when things aren't working sometimes you need to see what is actually happening
[07:57] <zoredache> that, and I am just more familair with the command line tools, so that is the only place I can be helpful
[08:00] <jessejazza> I'll give it a try [i'm using a spare PC to learn about ubuntu before i fully transfer]  . In the meantime do any of you use another environment - fluxbox or  ... One other thing with apps like evolution is it possible to remove it as a default from ubuntu - when i tried it synaptic came up with ubuntu-desktop as a dependency... and i guessed that it wasn't possible.
[08:03] <zoredache> you can remove ubuntu-desktop if you like.  the *buntu-desktop packages are only there to help people get a selection of common software, and to make upgrades easier.  If you want to removesomething, and it is the only thing keeping the package you want remove in place, then remove the *buntu-desktop package.
[08:04] <habu> i've lost the top and bottom task bars off my xubuntu desktop, how would i get them back?
[08:04] <zoredache> habu: do they come back after a logout/login?
[08:04] <habu> zoredache, no
[08:05] <habu> i've managed to create launchers for xchat and firefox. thats how i got here.
[08:09] <jessejazza> zoredadche: if i removed ubuntu-desktop wouldn't it then remove all the apps in the package. I wanted to get rid of evolution as i use thunderbird and wasn't sure what would happen if i did
[08:12] <sx66_> what is the xfce setting for theme installer? xubuntu does not have a theme installer
[08:20] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[08:21] <Shaba1> I am a linux newbie. I have xubuntu installed on this computer
[08:21] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: thats good :)
[08:21] <Shaba1> is there a way to send a shortcut of a web page to the desktop as there is in windows
[08:22] <Shaba1> I right click on a page and use send link but sometimes that works and sometimes it does not
[08:23] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: I guess that depends on the browser you are using
[08:23] <Shaba1> firefox
[08:23] <Shaba1> that is what came with this xubuntu installation and it works for me so far
[08:24] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: search if there is an add-on to FF that does it
[08:25] <hyper__ch> http://addons.mozilla.org
[08:25] <Shaba1> thanks
[08:25] <Shaba1> ok second thing
[08:26] <Shaba1> is there a convient way of seeing my hard disk usage in a pie chart format
[08:26] <Shaba1> Thundar just mystifies me.
[08:28] <hyper__ch> well, if you select the HD on the left it will just tell you in the bottom status bar how much free space you have
[08:29] <nonlocal> Shaba1:  you can also try 'df' at the command line.. no piegraph, but...
[08:30] <Shaba1> but what
[08:30] <hyper__ch> setting up a tor server now :)
[08:30] <hyper__ch> Shaba1: what but?
[08:30] <nonlocal> Shaba1:  But all the information you are looking for
[08:32] <Shaba1> ok back again
[08:32] <Shaba1> sorry I am just getting use to xchat also
[08:46] <jessejazza> be grateful if someone could advise. when i put a floppy disk into the PC - it seems to take ages reading it and then a disk icon appears on the desktop. Is that what ubuntu refers to as mounting a disk. It doesn't seem to just read a disk like windoze does.
[08:47] <hyper__ch> jessejazza: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:09] <jessejazza> "New users come to Linux after spending their lives using an OS where the end-user's needs are paramount, and "user friendly" and "customer focus" are considered veritable Holy Grails. And they suddenly find themselves using an OS that still relies on 'man' files, the command-line, hand-edited configuration files, and Google. And when they complain, they don't get coddled or promised better...
[09:09] <jessejazza> hyper__ch: i imagine this bit from the link was meant for me - i think you probably had a bit of help early on. I've got two good books but they leave out some of the basics. I think it's a bit arrogant really.
[09:09] <jessejazza> ...things: They get bluntly shown the door."
[09:11] <TheSheep> jessejazza: it should only read the directory structure off the disk, it shouldn't take so long
[09:12] <TheSheep> jessejazza: you can type 'dmesg' in a terminal and see if there were read errors, they might take some time
[09:13] <jessejazza> thanks - so mine could be a problem! But when it 'mounts' does an icon go on the desktop?
[09:14] <TheSheep> jessejazza: actually the floppy icon should be on the desktop all the time, since the computer has no way of telling whether there is a diskette in the drive or not
[09:14] <TheSheep> jessejazza: uless it's a mac
[09:14] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: nac checks all the time?
[09:14] <Ben_Cs> *mac
[09:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: no, mac doesn't have a button for ejecting them :)
[09:15] <Ben_Cs> who uses floppy nowadays anyway?
[09:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: they come in handy for booting sometimes
[09:16] <Ben_Cs> most pc's boot off CD or USB
[09:16] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: we have some older boxen without a cd and not booting from usb
[09:16] <Ben_Cs> i see
[09:17] <jessejazza> USE FLOPPIES! ... well i don't - but the portable writer, the USB portable floppy, and 3.5 drive don't seem to work at present. So i'm trying to find out why!
[09:21] <jessejazza> If i'm some older boxen - how is it you folk use xubuntu.
[09:23] <wyrd> i use it on my lappy
[09:23] <wyrd> it's far from new and shiney
[10:54] <junkeR> hello everyone
[10:55] <wyrd> hello
[11:17] <youreahat> Hello, I just did a fresh install of XFCE from the repos, and I can't seem to adjust my screensaver or power options.  How would I go about that when the Screensaver button doesn't seem to appear in Settings Manager?
[11:25] <Bender1337> does xubuntu come with openssh?
[11:30] <wyrd> bender, i can't remember, but i suspect it does
[11:30] <wyrd> and if not, it's only an install away
[11:31] <Bender1337> thanks
[12:03] <junkeR> hey, I installed all the plugins to play my video files.. but when I play them (it doesn't matter which player) they all appear lighter than usual
[12:06] <Pumpernickel> Easy enough to fix, in VLC at least.  Prefs -> video -> filters -> image adjust.
[12:06] <twiggz> junkeR: i feel your pain....colors look better on my freebsd machine by default than they do in ubuntu...or any linux for that matter..
[12:06] <Pumpernickel> (Assuming that it's just the gamma that's off.)
[12:09] <junkeR> okay, i g2g but i'll try that later tonight
[12:09] <junkeR> thanks
[12:14] <cjae_> what is the best wireless chipset to use linux?
[12:17] <wyrd> i use an rt2500 in my lappy
[12:17] <wyrd> it's a bit of a pian to get working
[12:18] <wyrd> but works fine afterwards
[12:19] <twiggz> i have a belkin card that worked right away with the fiesty alternative install cd....
[12:20] <twiggz> i like the alternative install cd...its straight forward..and you dont have to sit there jerking your mouse off for an hour picking different options trying to figure out which gui button your supposed to use for YOUR wireless set up..
[01:02] <emdash> i installed the emacs22 update a while back
[01:03] <emdash> i like the gtk version, but why is syntax hilighting disabled for the python mode?
[01:03] <emdash> and how do I get it back?