[01:46] <nosrednaekim> hello.... is knetworkmanager being updated to the newest SVN version which will support TKIP/PAP authentication?
[03:42] <Riddell> nixternal: you rock
[03:45] <Jucato> Riddell: if I could have a few seconds of your time. was the packaging talk you recently gave targetted at beginners? and do you have slides online? :)
[03:46] <jjesse> why is it so hard to get kde4 to work correct ;(
[03:46] <Jucato> aw...
[03:46] <jjesse> thought i copied the .bashrc script correctly getting another error
[03:53] <jjesse> holy crap
[03:53] <jjesse> i got it work
[03:54] <Jucato> yay!!!
[03:54] <Jucato> different user?
[03:54] <jjesse> yeah, followed the article closer this time
[03:55] <Jucato> heheh yeah it pays to follow it to the letter
[03:55] <Jucato> I've done this about 5 times now since alpha and still I can't get the hang of it... nixternal and stdin are more used to it and can dance around it more :)
[03:56] <jjesse> do i have all kde4 applications + gutsy applications or how does that work?
[03:57] <Jucato> definitely not all kde4 apps if you only built up to kdebase :)
[03:57] <jjesse> which is what i did
[03:57] <jjesse> i think...
[03:57] <Jucato> multi-tasking isn't good for the brain
[03:57] <Riddell> Jucato: at students who know nothing of KDE
[03:58] <Riddell> Jucato: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/la-laguna/
[03:58] <Jucato> Riddell: great! thanks!! this will be perfect :)
[04:10] <nixternal> man
[04:10] <jjesse> :)
[04:10] <nixternal> I passed out hard
[04:11] <jjesse> don't drink so much
[04:11] <nixternal> heh
[04:11] <nixternal> I went to change, and I laid in bed for a sec wrestling the dog, and next thing you know, I was out
[04:12] <jjesse> that's funny
[04:13] <nixternal> Riddell: rockin', kdebase is patched up and fixed for Dapper -> Gutsy
[04:13] <nixternal> I love when upstream patches apply cleanly
[04:14] <Jucato> Kubuntu loves upstream... wasn't that the banner? :)
[04:15] <Jucato> nixternal: you built kde 4 from svn right?
[04:15] <nixternal> quite a few times now :)
[04:16] <Jucato> same user or different (kde-devel) user? I was just wondering coz I followed techbase to the letter... and now I want to sort of run a full KDE4 session, but run my KDE 3 apps with my KDE 3 data (mail, feeds, etc)
[04:17] <Jucato> but jucato (KDE 3) and kde-devel (4) are different users
[04:17] <nixternal> kde-devel
[04:18] <Jucato> hm.. perhaps a simpler solution would be to figure out why I can't launch X apps as another user...
[04:24] <nixternal> you know why I am showing you that :)
[04:24] <jjesse> document it?
[04:24] <nixternal> ya, I don't believe it has documentation yet
[04:24] <nixternal> there is also something like ksysguard that needs it as well
[04:24] <jjesse> ok
[04:24] <nixternal> if you want to document okular, get a hold of pinotree and see if he has anything for you
[04:25] <nixternal> okular documentation will be kind of crazy though..I have a smaller task if you would like to go that route
[04:25] <jjesse> let me figure out my way around it for a bit
[04:26] <nixternal> oh nevermind...someone else already took care of the process list
[04:26] <jjesse> saw that on kde-doc mailing list
[04:26] <jjesse> nixternal respond to my mail on the list
[04:27] <nixternal> I just now seen it
[04:31] <Jucato> probably dependency or PATH issues
[04:33] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee!! \o/
[04:33] <nixternal> kdebase updates are all done now :)
[04:35] <Hobbsee> heya nixternal
[04:35] <Hobbsee> woot!  did you get it uploaded?
[04:36] <nixternal> kees is doing the dapper -> feisty builds now
[04:36] <nixternal> I linked Riddell to the Gutsy patch as it also included a fix to the konqi links for docs
[04:41] <Hobbsee> great :)
[04:41] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!
[04:41] <Jucato> hi nixternal! :)
[04:42] <nixternal> who are you?
[04:42] <Jucato> um... your #1 fan?
[04:42] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[04:42] <Jucato> :D
[04:42] <nixternal> you made me wet myself
[04:42] <Jucato> lol
[04:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:45] <Jucato> Hobbsee: don't worry, I'm your fan too. but I bet you already have #1-10 occupied :)
[04:45] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:46] <nixternal> Hobbsee: anything else a priority right now for getting worked on?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> nixternal: anything we need for the beta.
[04:46] <Jucato> the $HOME/home?
[04:47] <nixternal> well, we are in a beta freeze it seems
[04:47] <Hobbsee> nixternal: technically, yeah
[04:47] <Hobbsee> Jucato: idnt that get fixed?
[04:47] <Jucato> hm.. not when I logged in this morning...
[04:47] <Jucato> maybe the updates I got fixed it... kubuntu-desktop update?
[04:48] <Jucato> I only have home
[04:48] <nixternal> is it safe to delete them?
[04:48] <Jucato> I always do... haven't seen anything go boom yet
[04:48] <nixternal> heh
[04:49] <nixternal> there, gone :)
[04:49] <nixternal> if it goes boom, I will hunt you down and shove a Windows CD key up your nose
[04:49] <Jucato> noooo!!
[04:49] <nixternal> oh ya
[04:49] <Jucato> make it a Vista please? :)
[04:49] <Jucato> makes it more painful heheh
[04:50] <nixternal> no, I need that key :)
[04:50] <Jucato> lol
[04:50] <nixternal> I am sure I can find a Windows ME key somewhere
[04:50] <Jucato> hahahah!!! that piece of crap? :)
[04:50] <nixternal> heh
[04:50] <nixternal> I think I know only one person who ever used it, my dad, and to this day he still cusses it
[04:50] <Jucato> lol
[04:51] <nixternal> I can however say, Vista is faster for me than XP on the same machine....but my lord it is annoying and very poorly thought out
[04:51] <nixternal> pretty? yes. usability? heck no
[04:52] <Jucato> !nixternal
[04:52] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[04:52] <Jucato> ah yes.. confirmed!
[04:52] <nixternal> mmm money
[04:52] <Jucato> except the last part
[04:52] <Jucato> unless...
[04:52] <nixternal> I wish I had money to give out
[04:52] <nixternal> I just won the Lotto though
[04:52] <nixternal> $2
[04:53] <nixternal> :)
[04:53] <Jucato> woot!
[04:53] <nixternal> that will help buy my next Lotto tickets
[04:53] <Jucato> hahah
[04:53] <Jucato> over here, there's a "prize" called "change ticket". so if you get at least 2 numbers correct (I think), you can get your next ticket for free. don't know if that's the same there
[04:54] <Jucato> so far my mom's only been lucky in that category...
[04:54] <nixternal> they give you money, but mostly people who get 1 to 3 numbers correct, typically just exchange it for tickets anyways
[04:55] <nixternal> I win the mega millions, Kubuntu will have some more paid devs :)
[04:55] <nixternal> everyone will get a taste
[04:55] <Jucato> heheh yay
[04:55] <nixternal> what else would I do with $400 million?
[04:55] <nixternal> I would buy out Richard Stallman's seat on the FSF
[04:56] <nixternal> all we would have to do would be :%s/Stallman/Johnson/
[04:56] <nixternal> works out nicely
[04:56] <Jucato> lol
[05:20] <Hobbsee> nixternal: Riddell isnt around much atm - he's technically still on holidays, iirc.
[05:21] <nixternal> ya, you want the link?
[05:21] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kdebase_kdmsecfix_doclinkupdate.debdiff
[05:21] <nixternal> there it is for gutsy
[05:21] <Hobbsee> nixternal: did you commit it to bzr?
[05:22] <nixternal> err, no I didn't
[05:22] <nixternal> I will do that now
[05:22] <Hobbsee> nixternal: (and can you email me about it, i have to go out RSN)
[05:22] <Hobbsee> great :)
[05:22] <nixternal> I will email ya
[05:25] <Hobbsee> nixternal: great, thanks
[05:25] <nixternal> no prob
[05:26] <Hobbsee> code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members should help
[05:26] <Hobbsee> otherwise it's in the control file anyway.
[05:27] <nixternal> jeesh, bzr is so slooooooow
[05:35] <ScottK> nixternal: It's a feature.  Keeps you from making mistakes by getting ahead of yourself.
[05:36] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[05:36] <nixternal> now that is hillarious
[05:36] <nixternal> I don't care who you are, dat dare is funny
[05:36] <nixternal> lord forgive me and be with the starvin' pigmes down in new guinnea
[05:36] <ScottK> I thought you were in marketing.  This stuff should come natural to you.
[05:36] <nixternal> marketing schmarketing
[05:37] <nixternal> I like business management more than I do marketing
[05:37] <ScottK> Ah.
[05:37] <nixternal> unless of course, the marketing can pay me more :)
[05:37] <ScottK> Like there's a difference
[05:37] <nixternal> ya, business management wear the nice stuff, marketers where orange raybans
[05:37] <ScottK> Marketing is external.  Business management is internal.  No real difference.
[05:38] <ScottK> It's all selling.  One way or another.
[05:38] <nixternal> hey, if I do 'bzr commit', will it pop up emacs like svn does so I can enter my commit message?
[05:39] <nixternal> or will it commit w/o a message
[05:46] <nixternal> why yes it does
[05:53] <Jucato> why does it always rain when *I* do the laundry...
[06:05] <nixternal> haha
[06:16] <manchicken> Grr.  I hate the real world.  Why does it have to suck?
[06:16] <nixternal> I just realised that I committed the kdebase updates, but forgot to commit the one kubuntuify_about patch :)
[06:17] <nixternal> manchicken: if it didn't suck, then you wouldn't be spending so much time making Kubuntu rock!
[06:17] <nixternal> think of it that way, at least that is how I live day-to-day :)
[06:18] <manchicken> nixternal: No, because I'm looking for a new job because the board of directors fired my boss.  My direct report is not someone I'm too interested in working for.
[06:18] <nixternal> ahh, I love when that happens
[06:19] <manchicken> Psht.
[06:20] <manchicken> I fscking hate when this happens.
[06:20] <manchicken> Especially when I just bought a house and my wife is about to have a baby.
[06:20] <manchicken> It is so much easier to find work if you can relocate.
[06:21] <manchicken> But there's no way I could actually sell this house right now for what I financed it for and still afford to buy another one.
[06:22] <nixternal> actually, seeing as the rates are going down :)
[06:23] <ScottK> manchicken: You find a company that wants you enough, they solve those kinds of problems.
[06:23] <manchicken> ScottK: Well if I actually wanted to move that'd be nice, too.  I'd really like to stay where I am.
[06:24] <ScottK> Same goes for that.
[06:24] <manchicken> True, but the second is less likely than the first.
[11:08] <Kuhrscher> Hi, i have got a simple question.
[11:08] <mhb> uh oh
[11:09] <Kuhrscher> mhb: Not that terrible ;-)
[11:09] <Kuhrscher> Is the OOo version in Kubuntus 64bit edition a 64-bit build or a 32-bit build
[11:09] <Kuhrscher> I's just important for a gentoo bug...
[11:09] <Kuhrscher> Or better for the decision if it is a Gentoo bug or a 64bit issue
[11:11] <mhb> why shouldn't it be a 64bit build?
[11:12] <Kuhrscher> because the 64 bit build has been buggy for a long time and e.g. in SuSE 10.2 they packaged a 32bit build
[11:15] <Kuhrscher> Ok, it installs to /usr/lib and not to /usr/lib32, so I is probably a 64bit build.
[11:15] <\sh> Kuhrscher, you can check by yourself...apt-get source openoffice-org or something and check debian/rules
[11:15] <Kuhrscher> Ah, thank you very much.
[11:48] <vandenoever> the kubuntu website does not mention the availability of tribe 5
[11:59] <Riddell> vandenoever: it does, it's the second item on the front page
[12:00] <vandenoever> Riddell: oops, i'll adjust my mousewheel
[12:02] <Jucato> :)
[12:12] <Riddell> vandenoever: if you're installing kubuntu to check how well strigi works, our main problem currently is that it tends to use up 100% of CPU
[12:12] <vandenoever> ok
[12:48] <hunger> The main issue I have with desktop search in ubuntu is that there is strigi and tracker running at the same time:-(
[01:00] <Riddell> hunger: yes, I'm not quite sure how best to fix that
[01:00] <hunger> Riddell: I removed tracker, but that nuked ubuntu-desktop for some reason which is not really nice.
[01:01] <hunger> Riddell: Will the strigi applet get fixed to not look for filenames only at some point?
[01:02] <Riddell> hunger: I believe that's a deliberate design decision from vandenoever due to the limited UI
[01:03] <hunger> Oh. wouldn't locate be enough for that functionality then?
[01:03] <vandenoever> hunger: exactly, it is hard to show hit fragments in the small popup
[01:03] <hunger> vandenoever: ?
[01:03] <vandenoever> hunger: if you press enter, you get the full search
[01:03] <hunger> vandenoever: It does pop up a konqureror
[01:03] <hunger> here.
[01:03] <vandenoever> yes, with strigi://
[01:04] <hunger> vandenoever: Can I exclude regexps from the pathes strigi looks at? So it eg. does not index all the stuff under .svn?
[01:04] <hunger> Somehow all the hits I get are in .svn dirs;-(
[01:04] <vandenoever> hunger: yes, you can do that from strigiclient
[01:05] <hunger> vandenoever: Great!
[01:07] <Riddell> doesn't it ignore . directories by default?
[01:08] <vandenoever> it should, yes
[01:08] <vandenoever> you can check in the config file in ~/.strigi if it does
[01:08] <Riddell> <filter pattern='.*/' include='0'>
[01:09] <hunger> I added some more versioning system dirs using strigiclient, but those do not show up in .strigi/daemon.conf
[01:13] <vandenoever> hunger: are they indexed?
[01:13] <hunger> vandenoever: No idea.
[01:13] <hunger> vandenoever: I just deleted the clucene DB to make room for more important stuff;-)
[02:15] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee :)
[02:16] <Hobbsee> ty
[02:24] <marseillai> hi
[02:24] <Jucato> elow
[02:24] <marseillai> i'm trying to package iTest : http://itest.sourceforge.net/
[02:25] <marseillai> and there is one archive with two apps in it : itest server and iTest client
[02:25] <marseillai> and i would like to find some documentation about this sort of packaging
[02:28] <marseillai> i don't know how to build too apps in the same time and make it split into two package
[02:46] <stdin> marcel: see some of the links here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html and I'd suggest you apt-get source a package that is split into more than one package and have a look at how they do it. #ubuntu-motu is also a good place to ask
[02:47] <stdin> marseillai: see some of the links here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html and I'd suggest you apt-get source a package that is split into more than one package and have a look at how they do it. #ubuntu-motu is also a good place to ask
[02:47] <stdin> marcel: (wasn't meant for you sorry)
[02:47] <marseillai> thanks stdin
[02:47] <marseillai> i'll look later i've to halt now
[02:52] <gnomefreak> once i changed gdm to kdm i lost the loginscreen in system>admin. how do i configure kdm now? adding themes sct...
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ect...
[02:56] <stdin> System Settings > Appearance > KDM Theme Manager      (you may need the "kdmtheme" package)
[02:58] <Jucato> sorry... you have to use good old kcontrol
[02:58] <stdin> no, it's in system settings in gutsy :)
[02:59] <Jucato> stdin: try using it please :)
[02:59] <Jucato> (unless it was fixed already)
[02:59] <stdin> ahh, ok so you can't use it :p
[03:00] <Jucato> I guess my e-mail to k-devel went unnoticed so :)
[03:00] <Jucato> ey wait
[03:00] <Jucato>  it's fixed now!! woot
[03:01] <jjesse> silly qucik question what package do i need to get java and konqi to play nice?
[03:01] <Jucato> sun-java6-bin or -jre
[03:01] <Jucato> for firefox you would need the -plugin package
[03:02] <Jucato> or.. kubuntu-restricted-extras :)
[03:02] <Jucato> dang why did I forget that haha
[03:02] <gnomefreak> stdin: where is it in gnome?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Jucato: -plugin installs those packages as well
[03:02] <jjesse> so kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:02] <Jucato> true... but I go minimal sometimes :)
[03:03] <Jucato> yep.
[03:03] <stdin> gnome? umm dunno Alt-F2 systemsettings
[03:03] <Jucato> Alt+F2, kcmshell kdmtheme
[03:03] <Jucato> if you want directly
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Jucato: both are needed?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> kcmshell and kdmtheme
[03:04] <Jucato> yep
[03:04] <Jucato> one command
[03:07] <gnomefreak> brb gonna see if this worked
[04:03] <jjesse> if i have adept open and then open up system settings i'm not prompted for my password when i click on adminstrative
[04:03] <jjesse> is that supposed to work that way?
[04:04] <jjesse> didn't think that was how things sworkd in feisty
[04:04] <Hobbsee> jjesse: yes.
[04:04] <Hobbsee> jjesse: kdesudo p/w has a timeout now
[04:04] <jjesse> oh cool
[04:27] <bddebian> Heya
[04:28] <Jucato> heya
[04:29] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[04:30] <Jucato> :)
[04:56] <sahin_h> Jucato: I read your last post on planet ubuntu. Nice article!
[04:56] <Jucato> thanks :)
[04:56] <nixternal> it was OK :p
[04:57] <Jucato> hahah :)
[04:57] <nixternal> he forgot the part of "if it wasn't for nixternal..."
[04:57] <nixternal> KDE would be better probably :)
[04:57] <Jucato> lol
[04:59] <nixternal> I bet..I can tell that took some time
[05:00] <nixternal> I do look Jonathan Carter's idea though of a poster with a similar structure and points
[05:00] <nixternal> you might be on to something here
[05:00] <nixternal> you just might be a marketer in disguise
[05:00] <Jucato> lol
[05:00] <Jucato> no way.. me is no marketeer
[05:02] <Hobbsee> nice work, Jucato
[05:02] <nixternal> sure you are
[05:03] <nixternal> can't believe there hasn't been any trolls comment just yet, well besides me
[05:03] <Jucato> hahah. hasn't been read yet
[05:03] <Jucato> by many people
[05:03] <nixternal> man, I think I might have just been quoted for a comment to a nasty statement on IRC :)
[05:04] <nixternal> lovely
[05:05] <nixternal> the Chicago GLUG has a Gnome Users' Group extension, and one of their statements, just got attacked by me :)
[05:05] <nixternal> muhehehe
[05:05] <Jucato> heheh
[05:05] <nixternal> you know, I still haven't found the remote that closes my IRC connection
[05:05] <nixternal> heck, I wish I had a remote that would work here
[05:06] <nixternal> man, I am affraid to see what kind of grade of I got on my paper I wrote last week
[05:06] <nixternal> the title: The State of Unreliability
[05:07] <nixternal> the subtitle: If Windows was the answer, it must have been a stupid question
[05:07] <nixternal> on the current advertisement of the state of Illinois switching over to a Microsoft infrastructure over Linux
[05:07] <Jucato> ooooh you're in for a lot of trouble :)
[05:08] <nixternal> well, the teacher I swore told us to pick the audience..and then we had to switch papers so other students could proof it, and nobody knew wth I was talking about
[05:08] <nixternal> so all of my comments were "very well written and thought out, but the audience direction is not correct"
[05:08] <Jucato> hahah
[05:09] <nixternal> from now on, I will start out my papers with "to my audience of the non-lame", so that way there if they don't get it, it wasn't meant for them :)
[05:09] <Jucato> roflmao
[05:10] <nixternal> the paper is supposed to be 3 pages long...I did 3 pages, single spaced...and the teacher is like, you wrote 6 pages...I was like huh?
[05:10] <nixternal> she then proceded to tell me that in college all papers are to be double spaced...I asked if that is for the college of the lazy
[05:10] <nixternal> I know going for my bachelors, if you double spaced a 10 page paper, the teacher was going to kill you, slowly at that
[05:11] <Jucato> heh in our college, double space was the norm... even when writing on paper :)
[05:11] <nixternal> it is sad, that our universities are starting to following k-12 education now in the US...I am seeing education being spoon fed once again and I can't stand that
[05:11] <nixternal> s/following/follow
[05:12] <nixternal> don't blame ya there
[05:12] <nixternal> how so though?
[05:13] <ScottK> Jucato: Sure.  Why not.  We get blamed for everything else.
[05:13] <nixternal> hahahhaa
[05:13] <Jucato> :)
[05:13] <Jucato> being a "colony", we based our education system from the US
[05:13] <nixternal> well, there was a strong US presents up to the beginning of the 90s there, so it is very well possible
[05:13] <nixternal> s/presents/presence
[05:13] <nixternal> jeesh, my typing skills are elite
[05:13] <Jucato> there was a time when we had 7 grades (elementary), and started school in September... during the start of the typhoon season :)
[05:14] <nixternal> haha, that is what you get for following anything the US does..that was our plan...lets put them all in school during the typhoon season
[05:14] <Jucato> like we had any choice... :)
[05:14] <Jucato> our national language wasn't English, but it was the medium of instruction...
[05:14] <Jucato> even today :)
[05:15] <nixternal> I have only been to the Philippines once, and I absolutely loved it there...probably for all of the wrong reasons too :)
[05:15] <Jucato> so practically, our national language *is* English..
[05:15] <nixternal> I learned one dirty word my entire time there
[05:16] <Jucato> hahah!
[05:16] <nixternal> patagliamoo (say it, don't try to spell it though)
[05:16] <Jucato> heh :)
[05:16] <nixternal> am I even close?
[05:16] <Jucato> slightly...
[05:17] <Jucato> there are many languages/dialects here... for all I know that could be in one of them :)
[05:17] <nixternal> well, that is what you get when hanging out in the seedy bars of Manilla I guess
[05:17] <ScottK> Jucato: I learn curse words wherever I go.
[05:17] <nixternal> peckpet was another slang term, but I can't remember what it was
[05:17] <Jucato> ah Manila, eh? well, slightly close... but not quite
[05:17] <ScottK> I'm to old to remember them, but that's another story.
[05:17] <nixternal> haha
[05:17] <Jucato> hahah
[05:18] <nixternal> I loved pulling into port in Milaysia, Spain, Gibraltor, Greece, and Australia
[05:18] <nixternal> it was probably Jerome who taught me that stuff
[05:19] <nixternal> although, when he comes to Chicago, he never answers his cell phone when I call him :)
[05:19] <Jucato> hahah
[06:22] <marseillai> so running qmake-qt4 && lrelease-qt4 ???????.pro works but i don't succeed to do the same when building my packages. nor with cdbos or debhelper
[06:22] <Riddell> some context might be useful
[06:50] <sahin_h> I just reinsatlled Gutsy again on my machine to test it and I don't know why... the artwork is so beautiful.
[06:51] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:51] <sahin_h> Except the icons. These are a little old school.
[06:51] <Riddell> beautiful artwork is kwwii's doing
[06:52] <sahin_h> kwwii is a genius
[06:52] <Jucato> yeah, that's why Ubuntu stole him :P
[06:53] <sahin_h> Is it means kwwii won't work on kubuntu anymore? :-O
[06:53] <kwwii> sahin_h: thanks :-) check out the oxygen icons...they are out attempt at improving things
[06:53] <Jucato> hm... sahin_h, fresh install of gutsy, is the resolution of usplash correct?
[06:54] <sahin_h> kwwii: Yes, oxygen is simply fantastic. However I have to wait for KDE4.
[06:54] <sahin_h> Jucato: Yes
[06:54] <Jucato> hm.. mine isn't :(
[06:54] <Jucato> oh well... I only see it for a few seconds :)
[06:54] <Riddell> sahin_h: he's worked on kubuntu, that's why we have new artwork in gutsy
[06:54] <Jucato> kwwii: btw.. if I haven't told you yet... you rock! :)
[06:54] <Riddell> sahin_h: did you install from a daily CD?
[06:55] <kwwii> Jucato: ;-)
[06:55] <sahin_h> Riddell: No, I used tribe5
[06:55] <jjesse> i love the new look
[06:55] <jjesse> anyone have any problems w/ a hotplug package today doing updates?
[06:56] <sahin_h> I've a dual headed machine at my home, so I would like to see how it works. (Gutsy)
[07:04] <Pita> Anyone here using Compiz with the latest, greatest updates to Gutsy?  Any ideas how to make it use the KDE window decorator instead of the Emerald one?  It just switched on me with a recent update, and I can't figure out how to make it go back
[07:08] <Pita> Or should I be asking this in #ubuntu-effects?
[07:08] <jjesse> i like the restart is required that is new
[07:09] <Riddell> jjesse: oh that worked?
[07:09] <jjesse> Riddell: yeah, didn't know what the icon in the tray was, so i clicked on it and it told me a reboot was prompted
[07:09] <jjesse> then it asked me to reboot and rebooted
[07:10] <Riddell> Pita: dunno I've afraid, that channel may be better
[07:13] <ScottK> Riddell: If you can get me a Konsole .deb for the pty crash, I can test it on a box known to have that problem.
[07:14] <Riddell> ScottK: feisty or gutsy?
[07:14] <Riddell> amd64 or i386?
[07:14] <ScottK> I've done Gutsy and it's fine (i386)
[07:14] <ScottK> I just commented in hte bug.
[07:14] <ScottK> I can test Feisty if I get a Feisty .deb.
[07:15] <ScottK> Or I can just do it after it's in feisty-propsed if you'd prefer.
[07:15] <Riddell> I'm building now, will take a couple of hours
[07:17] <ScottK> OK.  I'll be around for ~ 4 hours.
[07:22] <mendred> Riddell: can the strigi systray applet be configured to do content search rather than file search?
[07:28] <Riddell> mendred: that would need to be changed in the source code I think
[07:29] <mendred> Riddell: ok thanks
[07:31] <mendred> Riddell: ideally shouldn't the parameter to be searched be configurabe? say either content.keyword/audio.album etc..like how strigiclient presents it?
[07:32] <mendred> or for simplicity should it just be content.keyword to search anything and everything?
[07:32] <jjesse> ok getting a problem updating my gutsy install
[07:32] <jjesse> Errors were encountered while process hotkey-setup
[07:33] <Riddell> jjesse: poke sladen
[07:33] <Riddell> actually, he's probably travelling
[07:34] <Riddell> so report a bug
[07:34] <jjesse> Riddell: ok will do
[07:34] <Riddell> jjesse: how were  you updating?
[07:34] <jjesse> apt-get update
[07:35] <Riddell> sounds like it could be problematic for beta
[07:35] <jjesse> it causes a problem for kubuntu-desktop as well
[07:36] <Riddell> hotkey-setup does?
[07:37] <jjesse> Riddell: yes, errors occured processing hotkey-setup and kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <jjesse> is that against the package hotkey-setup/
[07:41] <Riddell> yes
[07:50] <jjesse> there is a bug filed against it
[07:50] <jjesse> subscribed
[07:51] <Riddell> what's the number?
[07:54] <marseillai> Riddell: would you have time to help me on CDBS ?
[07:56] <marseillai> i got a debian rules done with deb_helper this part works : http://pastebin.com/m5217e200 but i would like to port it on CDBS and i don't succeed. :s do you have an idea?
[08:04] <coreymon77> Riddell: where am i supposed to write this team report, where on the wiki?
[09:12] <Riddell> coreymon77: well remembered.  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TeamReports
[09:12] <Riddell> marseillai: sorry, not online just now
[09:12] <marseillai> Riddell: no problem i've continue with deb_helper and almost succeed now
[09:13] <Riddell> ScottK: http://muse,19inch.net/~jr/tmp/konsole_3.5.6-0ubuntu20.3_i386.deb
[09:14] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  It'll take me a few minutes to find my Feisty hard drive and reboot the laptop.
[09:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I just realized that my Feisty has been upgraded to 3.5.7.  Do you think I can still test that .deb?
[09:15] <Riddell> ScottK: should think so yes
[09:16] <Riddell> but we'll need 3.5.7 packages too right enough
[09:31] <ScottK> Riddell: I think there's an issue with that URL.
[09:34] <ScottK> Riddell: Got it.
[09:39] <ScottK> Riddell: Tests good on 3.5.6 Feisty (I lost track of hard drives.  The one I have is 3.5.6).
[09:39] <ScottK> I commented in the bug.
[09:47] <marseillai> Riddell: i've done a package of iTest server and client : http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/iTest?content=57550 but the binary are in /usr/share what i must install in /usr/bin ?? a symlink is enough ?
[10:16] <nixternal> was there a font update or what?
[10:17] <coreymon77> whats iTest?
[10:17] <coreymon77> something to do with macs?
[10:17] <marseillai> not
[10:17] <stdin> an iTest is something they do to check your sight :p
[10:18] <marseillai> maybe hobbsee would like to make itest into edukubuntu ?
[10:19] <coreymon77> interesting
[10:19] <coreymon77> isnt just edubuntu
[10:19] <coreymon77> or is there an eduku aswell?
[10:20] <nixternal> wth is edukubuntu? :) you mean edubuntu with the groovy kde desktop?
[10:20] <nixternal> and iirc, I believe that is my project somehow, someway
[10:20] <marseillai> yes i've saw something like that if i well remember
[10:21] <jjesse> i thought they were making it so the kde-edu sutff integrated better?
[10:21] <marseillai> arf
[10:21] <marseillai> sorry nixternal
[10:21] <marseillai> nixternal: so may be this would have his place into edubuntu
[10:22] <nixternal> well, it would be a tad bit late for Gutsy
[10:22] <nixternal> but definitely something to look at in the future
[10:22] <coreymon77> couldnt they put it in though
[10:22] <coreymon77> as an optional
[10:22] <coreymon77> kinda like whats gonna happen with kde4
[10:22] <ScottK> coreymon77: It's to late for adding new packages.
[10:22] <nixternal> not right now...new uploads have been closed for almost a month now
[10:26] <coreymon77> where is this teams wiki page?
[10:26] <coreymon77> i need to know for the report
[10:27] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
[10:27] <nixternal> I think
[10:27] <nixternal> I don't think we really have a team wiki, but if we did, there should be a link somewhere on that page
[10:28] <marseillai> nixternal: i'm not packaging it to gutsy but hardy! i know it's too late! but i've been busy with girlfriend all the holiday...
[10:28] <nixternal> oh ya, that would rock...I can talk with ogra about that app and see what he has
[10:28] <nixternal> I know they are a big school tool user, and there is a testing app already, but I don't know if it is a Qt/KDE app
[10:28] <coreymon77> nixternal: nope, doesnt seem so
[10:29] <coreymon77> nixternal: isnt this the kubuntu-devel team
[10:29] <coreymon77> or is that considered the kubuntu team
[10:29] <nixternal> I would go with kubuntu-devel
[10:30] <marseillai> nixternal: i've try this one and it's really amazing! look on the website there are some demo screencast ...
[10:31] <coreymon77> okay then
[10:31] <coreymon77> ill jsut put it directly on the team reporting page
[10:34] <coreymon77> nixternal: i take it you want me to put the tribe 6 highlights in the report right/
[10:35] <coreymon77> ?
[10:35] <nixternal> there were no tribe 6 highlights, as there was no tribe 6
[10:37] <coreymon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe6/Kubuntu?highlight=%28gutsy%29
[10:37] <coreymon> check there
[10:38] <coreymon77> nixternal: these are the highlights, done by you
[10:38] <coreymon77> nixternal: is that what you want in the report?
[10:39] <nixternal> ya, nix those
[10:39] <nixternal> those could be deleted
[10:39] <coreymon77> ???
[10:39] <nixternal> I started the page, but tribe 6 never happened
[10:39] <coreymon77> so, what do you want in the report?
[10:39] <nixternal> they canceled its release
[10:39] <coreymon77> what do i put in then?
[10:39] <nixternal> I have no idea what to put in the report..that is jono's baby, he would know more
[10:40] <nixternal> I love when people create these micro-management projects and then don't provide further information
[10:40] <coreymon77> i put in the report what the team has been doing this month
[10:40] <nixternal> sounds good to me
[10:40] <coreymon77> what has this team been doing this september?
[10:40] <nixternal> I would have put "for a good time call ScottK"
[10:40] <ScottK> good/bitter, sure.
[10:40] <nixternal> hahahaha
[10:41] <nixternal> Hobbsee is the chief of all Kubuntu, she would know all that has been happening
[10:42] <nixternal> I don't even know what has been happening...docs are done, uploaded for translations, but LP and Rosetta sucks, and nobody is approving the new files and deleting the old...so as it stands, there probably won't be many kubuntu doc translations again
[10:42] <coreymon77> well hobbsee is not on alot when i am, so thats a little difficult
[10:42] <coreymon77> what they probably want is gutsy stuff
[10:42] <nixternal> you can put that "nixternal says LP and Rosetta suck, people aren't listening to emails about Kubuntu docs translations, and he taught his dog how to sit up"
[10:42] <coreymon77> do i put in the tribe 5 highlights?
[10:43] <nixternal> don't think they care so much about highlights as they do the work the team has been doing
[10:43] <nixternal> just put "doing kubuntu bug work"
[10:43] <nixternal> if they have a problem with it, I am willing to bet they will get with you and tell you what they want :)
[10:44] <nixternal> if you ask and that doesn't work, just do something that will piss them off and force them to tell you :p
[10:44] <coreymon> look
[10:44] <coreymon> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TeamReports/September2007?action=show
[10:44] <coreymon77> thats where they go
[10:44] <coreymon77> and one team has already done it
[10:45] <coreymon77> so how do i formulate that for us?
[10:45] <nixternal> :%s/MythTV/Kubuntu
[10:45] <nixternal> :)
[10:46] <coreymon77> nixternal: adding xfce as default window manager? for kubuntu? that probably wouldnt work
[10:46] <nixternal> :%s/XFCE/KDE
[10:46] <nixternal> hahaha
[10:46] <nixternal> that still wouldn't work
[10:46] <coreymon77> nixternal: so? what do i put?
[10:47] <coreymon77> nixternal: it wouldnt be very god for me if the first thing i was told to do as a kubuntu member was not done or not done properly
[10:47] <coreymon77> nixternal: so, if you could take the fall, great, but otherwise, i need info on what to do
[10:47] <nixternal> coreymon77: ohhh. i was going to say it wouldn't be your fault, but then I just seen a link to guidelines
[10:48] <coreymon77> nixternal: the guidelines tell me only what i already know
[10:48] <nixternal> OMG
[10:48] <coreymon77> that im supposed to put what the team has been doing
[10:48] <nixternal> ya, the guidelines are garbage
[10:49] <nixternal> well, we have been fixing bugs with kdebase, kdelibs, kdepim, kdebluetooth, kdenetwork
[10:49] <nixternal> ummm
[10:49] <coreymon77> problem is, what has the team been doing
[10:49] <coreymon77> im not really on the team so i dont have access to this stuff
[10:49] <nixternal> we have completed the docs for gutsy and uploaded them for translation
[10:49] <nixternal> you have the same access I do silly
[10:50] <coreymon77> as in, i dont really know what would be going on
[10:50] <coreymon77> nixternal: you guys are more in the loop as to that
[10:50] <nixternal> got dolphin all tweaked out to takeover the default file manager spot
[10:52] <coreymon77> nixternal: now i need that in language that i can put in a report
[10:52] <coreymon77> im normally not a formal person
[10:53] <coreymon77> but "all tweaked out" doesnt say much in a report
[10:53] <nixternal> heh
[10:53] <nixternal> s/all tweaked out/properly configured
[10:53] <coreymon77> ...
[10:54] <nixternal> dolphin has received so many tweaks, that I can't even keep up with it
[10:54] <nixternal> Jucato would be a good point man on that one...I think he did some hacking on it
[10:54] <coreymon77> you mean youve finished configuring and tweaking dolphin to take over default file manger position
[10:55] <nixternal> I haven't, but someone has
[10:55] <coreymon77> nixternal: small problem with that, once again, completely different timezones
[10:55] <nixternal> ya, but jucato hardly ever sleeps
[10:55] <coreymon77> nixternal: could that be the right way to put it?
[10:55] <nixternal> email the list and see if you can get some feedback that way
[10:55] <coreymon77> its due for tomorrow
[10:56] <nixternal> lovely
[10:56] <coreymon77> sorry bout that
[10:56] <coreymon77> ive been busy with school starting and the high holidays and the like
[10:57] <nixternal> I hear you there
[10:58] <coreymon77> and the most important holiday is tomorrow
[10:59] <coreymon77> meaning that i gotta get it done for today
[10:59] <coreymon77> i can still edit it
[10:59] <coreymon77> but i should get it in today
[10:59] <coreymon77> so
[10:59] <coreymon77> okay
[10:59] <nixternal> heh, Mythbuntu is the only one who got their stuff done so far
[10:59] <coreymon77> we should probably have about 6 points
[11:00] <coreymon77> like mythbuntu
[11:00] <coreymon77> so
[11:00] <coreymon77> weve got 3
[11:00] <coreymon77> anything else you know of
[11:00] <nixternal> that is all I can think of...if I come up with something...OH YA
[11:00] <ScottK> coreymon77: Getting Bug #117731 fixed in Gutsy and the Feisty SRU prepared is a big deal IMO.
[11:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117731 in python-kde3 "Python crashes after attaching pty to a konsole kpart" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117731
[11:00] <nixternal> derr
[11:01] <nixternal> I fixed kdebase for dapper -> gutsy for the kdm security vulnerability
[11:01] <nixternal> and the python/konsole kpart lovin'
[11:01] <ScottK> That bug was breaking both upgrades and kde-gdebi on low memory systems.
[11:01] <coreymon77> what so you mean by dapper -> gutsy?
[11:02] <ScottK> Hint: Getting the SRU published before Gutsy beta is released would avoid a pretty large number of failed to upgrade bugs.
[11:02] <coreymon77> ScottK: was the bug fixed?
[11:02] <ScottK> coreymon77: He means Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, Gutsy.
[11:02] <nixternal> dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy have all been fixed
[11:02] <ScottK> coreymon77: For nixternal's security fix.
[11:02] <nixternal> I wasn't dereferencing dapper there :)
[11:02] <nixternal> (*dapper).gutsy :)
[11:03] <coreymon77> ScottK: was bug #117731 fixed?
[11:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117731 in python-kde3 "Python crashes after attaching pty to a konsole kpart" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117731
[11:03] <nixternal> yes
[11:03] <coreymon77> okay
[11:03] <ScottK> That was fixed in Gutsy and the Feisty SRU is prepared and being tested.
[11:03] <nixternal> odd though, why does it say undecided/in progress
[11:03] <nixternal> oh, that is why
[11:04] <coreymon77> is that a big deal?
[11:04] <coreymon77> is this bugfix a big deal?
[11:04] <ScottK> Yes.  It's been a big bad bug for a long time.
[11:04] <ScottK> That one, yes.
[11:04] <coreymon77> okay
[11:05] <ScottK> Without getting that one solved everyone upgrading Feisty -> Gutsy with less than ~1.5 GB RAM + swap would have failed to upgrade.  That's why having it figured and having the SRU in progress is important.
[11:05] <ScottK> In Gutsy kde-gdebi would flat out not work.
[11:06] <coreymon77> umm
[11:06] <coreymon77> how do i make the bug number into a link to the launchpad bug page on the wiki
[11:06] <coreymon77> as in make bug #117731 a link to the page
[11:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117731 in python-kde3 "Python crashes after attaching pty to a konsole kpart" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117731
[11:07] <nixternal> [https://launchpad.net/bugs/117731 Bug #117731] 
[11:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117731 in python-kde3 "Python crashes after attaching pty to a konsole kpart" [Undecided,In progress] 
[11:08] <coreymon77> was it only fixed in gutsy?
[11:09] <ScottK> Yes,  The fix for Gutsy was release and the Feisty update is being tested.
[11:15] <coreymon77> btw, im curious
[11:15] <coreymon77> why is the new file manager called dolphin
[11:15] <coreymon77> isnt this kde
[11:15] <coreymon77> doesnt everthing need a k in it?
[11:16] <stdin> that's an old convention that's dropping away, besides Amarok starts with an 'A'
[11:16] <nixternal> haha, Fox News rules
[11:17] <stdin> and "plasma" has not K in there at all :)
[11:17] <nixternal> they just told the Microsoft guy on there that Vista is the biggest piece of junk ever to be sold on the market
[11:17] <nixternal> the Microsoft guy started to say "well that just isn't true..."
[11:17] <nixternal> and the Fox News person broke in and said "you're right, I forgot about the Yugo"
[11:17] <nixternal> gahahahahaha
[11:18] <coreymon77> fox sucks
[11:18] <coreymon77> fox news is the least reliable thing out there
[11:19] <nixternal> you are insane
[11:19] <coreymon77> when i go to someone in the states on vacation, the only reason sometimes watch it for entertainment
[11:19] <coreymon77> besides
[11:19] <coreymon77> i hate fox and everything associated with it
[11:19] <coreymon77> ive completely boycotted them
[11:20] <nixternal> you either have MSNBC which is ruled by the democrats and Microsoft, CNN which is ruled by the liberals, or Fox News, who is ruled by the conservatives and pharmaseuticals (I killed the spelling)
[11:20] <coreymon77> or you have ctv
[11:20] <nixternal> wth is ctv?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> internet?
[11:20] <coreymon77> nope
[11:21] <coreymon77> canada
[11:21] <nixternal> fox news rules them all, with bbc right behind
[11:21] <coreymon77> im not american
[11:21] <nixternal> sometimes I wish I wasn't either
[11:21] <coreymon77> sometimes?!
[11:21] <coreymon77> i take it now would be one of those times
[11:22] <nixternal> heck no...I am in the military, so whenever my men and women are working their lives away, I stand behind them, even if the terms of their work is wrong
[11:22] <coreymon77> our dollar actually went over par against yours yesterday
[11:23] <coreymon77> anyways
[11:23] <coreymon77> i need one more point for the report
[11:23] <nixternal> grr, I don't like when that happens...I enjoy buying computer compenents from Canada, as it is usually cheaper for us
[11:24] <nixternal> wow, it is pretty much dollar for dollar right now...so that means back to newegg :)
[11:24] <stdin> one of my Great British Pounds is worth 2 of your dollars
[11:24] <coreymon77> nixternal: no more getting stuff from us for dirt cheap
[11:25] <stdin> :p
[11:25] <coreymon77> stdin: w/e
[11:25] <coreymon77> stdin: this is big news for us
[11:25] <coreymon77> stdin: hasnt happened for close to 30 year
[11:25] <coreymon77> s
[11:25] <nixternal> right now, big news for us is the rate cuts, so I can see myself buying yet another house within the next year
[11:26] <coreymon77> nixternal: the greenback is collapsing
[11:26] <nixternal> lord knows the only reason they do rate cuts is to prevent a recession though
[11:26] <coreymon77> nixternal: the rate cuts were part of the reason we went over par
[11:26] <nixternal> the greenback will more than likely never collapse...don't care if bush was president for the next 50 years
[11:26] <ScottK> coreymon77: That's what they said 30 years ago when the Canadian dollare got all the way to 1.05 US$.
[11:26] <coreymon77> ya but
[11:26] <nixternal> old man!
[11:27] <nixternal> hahahaha
[11:27] <coreymon77> the reason this happened was mostly becasue the greenback has gone down,
[11:27] <nixternal> ya but? isn't that a furry thing that runs around in the back yard?
[11:27] <nixternal> the greenback hasn't gone down, it has always been $1 :)
[11:27] <nixternal> hahahahaha
[11:27] <ScottK> coreymon77: Same thing then.
[11:27] <ScottK> We were doomed.  Doomed I tell you.
[11:27] <coreymon77> no we arent
[11:28] <coreymon77> we are doing quite well thanks
[11:28] <coreymon77> :P
[11:28] <ScottK> Once global warming hits, you'll be lost without snow.
[11:28] <nixternal> lol
[11:28] <coreymon77> okay
[11:28] <coreymon77> typical american
[11:28] <nixternal> where da snow go ey
[11:28] <coreymon77> canada is a frozen wasteland
[11:28] <coreymon77> not true
[11:29] <ScottK> coreymon77: Actually not at all.  I've spent more time in more countries (including Canada) than probably 95% of Americans.
[11:29] <ScottK> I can, however, pick on a stereotype with the best of them.
[11:29] <nixternal> I am with ScottK with that one, and I am sure because of the same reason
[11:29] <coreymon77> okay
[11:29] <ScottK> Yep.  Although I've also lived outside the US as a civilian.
[11:30] <nixternal> spend a few months in Iraq, and snow will become a godsend
[11:30] <coreymon77> im talking many americans here
[11:30] <coreymon77> oh
[11:30] <coreymon77> i love snow
[11:30] <coreymon77> skiing is one of my favourite things
[11:30] <nixternal> I for one, can't live w/o snow
[11:30] <nixternal> I can't ski to save my life, but I make the damn best snowball you have ever been hit with
[11:30] <nixternal> :p
[11:31] <coreymon77> although this whole frozen wasteland bit?
[11:31] <coreymon77> not true
[11:31] <nixternal> in Chicago we get that super wet heavy snow with all of the bad chemicals in it
[11:31] <ScottK> coreymon77: I know.
[11:31] <coreymon77> its 25 degrees here
[11:31] <nixternal> so if I make it right, it will cut and sting
[11:31] <ScottK> Sounds like Chicago.  Snow and severe pollution.
[11:31] <coreymon77> at the end of september
[11:31] <nixternal> gotta love it
[11:31] <nixternal> people are like "why do you drive so much?"
[11:31] <nixternal> ya, like I would rather walk and breathe in all of those chemicals
[11:32] <nixternal> although, I just tried to buy a segway from craigslist, but someone beat me to it
[11:32] <nixternal> I would ride that with a gas mask on :)
[11:32] <coreymon77> lucky ass
[11:32] <coreymon77> segways arent allowed much in toronto
[11:32] <nixternal> ScottK: that is only because they didn't make cars yet
[11:32] <ScottK> Got run over (literally) by a mini-van.
[11:32] <nixternal> badda bing!
[11:32] <coreymon77> only privat propertu
[11:33] <coreymon77> property*
[11:33] <ScottK> Heh.
[11:33] <coreymon77> ive ridden on one before though
[11:33] <nixternal> man, segways have become super popular in Chicago this past year
[11:33] <coreymon77> they are allowed in the distillery district
[11:33] <nixternal> I think it is because of Google and all of their employees riding around on them
[11:33] <coreymon77> the segway tours done there are extremely popular
[11:34] <coreymon77> i went on one
[11:34] <nixternal> they just started segway tours in Chicago this summer
[11:34] <coreymon77> damn they are so fun to ride!
[11:34] <nixternal> that was the first time I rode one, and I was addicted
[11:34] <nixternal> some guy was selling one on craigslist for $1500
[11:34] <coreymon77> toronto should get with the program though
[11:34] <coreymon77> they will eventually
[11:35] <ScottK> Where I live it'd take half a day to get anywhere on one.
[11:35] <coreymon77> anyways
[11:35] <nixternal> heh
[11:35] <coreymon77> back to the report
[11:35] <coreymon77> i need one more point
[11:35] <nixternal> ScottK: I would say in the next 8 months, I should be living right down the road from ya
[11:35] <ScottK> coreymon77: DId you mention Riddell is enjoying his vacation?
[11:36] <ScottK> That could be your last point.
[11:36] <ScottK> nixternal: You've mentioned the possibility.
[11:36] <nixternal> groovy
[11:36] <nixternal> man, something in here stinks...time to find out what
[11:36] <coreymon77> is that really a point for kubuntu?
[11:36] <nixternal> back in a bit
[11:36] <coreymon77> or do you guys just want to put in a completely pointless thing into the report
[11:36] <ScottK> coreymon77: If you need one more point it is.  It'll be kind of funny too and that's always good in status reports.
[11:36] <coreymon77> just for the hell of it
[11:36] <ScottK> That too.
[11:36] <coreymon77> okay then
[11:36] <coreymon77> good with me
[11:37] <coreymon77> as i said
[11:37] <ScottK> It'll make someone smile so they'll like the report better.
[11:37] <coreymon77> im not usually a formal serious person
[11:37] <ScottK> coreymon77: Just remember that it was nixternal's idea if anyone asks.
[11:37] <coreymon77> okay
[11:37] <coreymon77> what is he
[11:37] <ScottK> Cool.
[11:37] <coreymon77> lead developer
[11:37] <coreymon77> riddell
[11:37] <ScottK> Something like that.  I'd have to Google for an exact title.
[11:39] <coreymon77> ScottK: can you tell me
[11:39] <coreymon77> ScottK: quickly find out, i gotta go
[11:40] <ScottK> Oh.  I'll look
[11:40] <coreymon77> quick
[11:40] <ScottK> How about lead Kubuntu developer.
[11:41] <coreymon77> damn it
[11:41] <coreymon77> i accidentally navigated away form the page
[11:41] <coreymon77> have to start again
[11:44] <ScottK> Your back button may get you the content back.
[11:47] <ScottK> Here's a good read for your spare time (I think it's not subscription only); http://lwn.net/Articles/105375/
[11:48] <marseillai> nixternal: in wich categorie do you think should i set iTest ?
[12:06] <toma> hi, are all bugs getting closed with no activity for 60 days?