=== nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-173.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] hello.... is knetworkmanager being updated to the newest SVN version which will support TKIP/PAP authentication? === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.181.104] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Shely [n=Sea@221.201.63.20] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mluser-work [n=mluser-w@208.178.12.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-64-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-49-70.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-64-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger__ [n=me@N932P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] nixternal: you rock [03:45] Riddell: if I could have a few seconds of your time. was the packaging talk you recently gave targetted at beginners? and do you have slides online? :) [03:46] why is it so hard to get kde4 to work correct ;( [03:46] aw... [03:46] thought i copied the .bashrc script correctly getting another error [03:53] holy crap [03:53] i got it work === jjesse dances [03:54] yay!!! [03:54] different user? [03:54] yeah, followed the article closer this time [03:55] heheh yeah it pays to follow it to the letter [03:55] I've done this about 5 times now since alpha and still I can't get the hang of it... nixternal and stdin are more used to it and can dance around it more :) [03:56] do i have all kde4 applications + gutsy applications or how does that work? [03:57] definitely not all kde4 apps if you only built up to kdebase :) [03:57] which is what i did [03:57] i think... === Jucato doesn't know what to think :) [03:57] multi-tasking isn't good for the brain [03:57] Jucato: at students who know nothing of KDE [03:58] Jucato: http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/la-laguna/ [03:58] Riddell: great! thanks!! this will be perfect :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] man [04:10] :) [04:10] I passed out hard [04:11] don't drink so much [04:11] heh [04:11] I went to change, and I laid in bed for a sec wrestling the dog, and next thing you know, I was out === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manckn@12-226-72-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.242.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] that's funny [04:13] Riddell: rockin', kdebase is patched up and fixed for Dapper -> Gutsy [04:13] I love when upstream patches apply cleanly [04:14] Kubuntu loves upstream... wasn't that the banner? :) [04:15] nixternal: you built kde 4 from svn right? [04:15] quite a few times now :) [04:16] same user or different (kde-devel) user? I was just wondering coz I followed techbase to the letter... and now I want to sort of run a full KDE4 session, but run my KDE 3 apps with my KDE 3 data (mail, feeds, etc) [04:17] but jucato (KDE 3) and kde-devel (4) are different users [04:17] kde-devel [04:18] hm.. perhaps a simpler solution would be to figure out why I can't launch X apps as another user... === jjesse needs to figure out what to do next now that he has kde4 compiled === nixternal shows jjesse Okular [04:24] you know why I am showing you that :) [04:24] document it? [04:24] ya, I don't believe it has documentation yet [04:24] there is also something like ksysguard that needs it as well [04:24] ok [04:24] if you want to document okular, get a hold of pinotree and see if he has anything for you [04:25] okular documentation will be kind of crazy though..I have a smaller task if you would like to go that route [04:25] let me figure out my way around it for a bit [04:26] oh nevermind...someone else already took care of the process list [04:26] saw that on kde-doc mailing list === jjesse heads to bed :) [04:26] nixternal respond to my mail on the list [04:27] I just now seen it === Jucato has tried once to build okular.. and failed... [04:31] probably dependency or PATH issues === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:33] hiya Hobbsee!! \o/ [04:33] kdebase updates are all done now :) [04:35] heya nixternal [04:35] woot! did you get it uploaded? [04:36] kees is doing the dapper -> feisty builds now [04:36] I linked Riddell to the Gutsy patch as it also included a fix to the konqi links for docs [04:41] great :) [04:41] hi Hobbsee! [04:41] hi nixternal! :) [04:42] who are you? [04:42] um... your #1 fan? [04:42] hahahahaha [04:42] :D [04:42] you made me wet myself [04:42] lol [04:44] hehe [04:45] Hobbsee: don't worry, I'm your fan too. but I bet you already have #1-10 occupied :) [04:45] :P [04:46] Hobbsee: anything else a priority right now for getting worked on? [04:46] nixternal: anything we need for the beta. [04:46] the $HOME/home? [04:47] well, we are in a beta freeze it seems [04:47] nixternal: technically, yeah [04:47] Jucato: idnt that get fixed? [04:47] hm.. not when I logged in this morning... === nixternal still has env, home, and share [04:47] maybe the updates I got fixed it... kubuntu-desktop update? [04:48] I only have home [04:48] is it safe to delete them? [04:48] I always do... haven't seen anything go boom yet [04:48] heh [04:49] there, gone :) [04:49] if it goes boom, I will hunt you down and shove a Windows CD key up your nose [04:49] noooo!! [04:49] oh ya [04:49] make it a Vista please? :) [04:49] makes it more painful heheh [04:50] no, I need that key :) [04:50] lol [04:50] I am sure I can find a Windows ME key somewhere [04:50] hahahah!!! that piece of crap? :) [04:50] heh [04:50] I think I know only one person who ever used it, my dad, and to this day he still cusses it [04:50] lol [04:51] I can however say, Vista is faster for me than XP on the same machine....but my lord it is annoying and very poorly thought out [04:51] pretty? yes. usability? heck no [04:52] !nixternal [04:52] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [04:52] ah yes.. confirmed! [04:52] mmm money [04:52] except the last part [04:52] unless... [04:52] I wish I had money to give out [04:52] I just won the Lotto though [04:52] $2 [04:53] :) [04:53] woot! [04:53] that will help buy my next Lotto tickets [04:53] hahah [04:53] over here, there's a "prize" called "change ticket". so if you get at least 2 numbers correct (I think), you can get your next ticket for free. don't know if that's the same there [04:54] so far my mom's only been lucky in that category... [04:54] they give you money, but mostly people who get 1 to 3 numbers correct, typically just exchange it for tickets anyways [04:55] I win the mega millions, Kubuntu will have some more paid devs :) [04:55] everyone will get a taste [04:55] heheh yay [04:55] what else would I do with $400 million? [04:55] I would buy out Richard Stallman's seat on the FSF [04:56] all we would have to do would be :%s/Stallman/Johnson/ [04:56] works out nicely [04:56] lol === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:20] nixternal: Riddell isnt around much atm - he's technically still on holidays, iirc. [05:21] ya, you want the link? [05:21] http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/kdebase_kdmsecfix_doclinkupdate.debdiff [05:21] there it is for gutsy [05:21] nixternal: did you commit it to bzr? [05:22] err, no I didn't [05:22] I will do that now [05:22] nixternal: (and can you email me about it, i have to go out RSN) [05:22] great :) === nixternal always forgets that is where it is [05:22] I will email ya [05:25] nixternal: great, thanks [05:25] no prob [05:26] code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members should help [05:26] otherwise it's in the control file anyway. [05:27] jeesh, bzr is so slooooooow [05:35] nixternal: It's a feature. Keeps you from making mistakes by getting ahead of yourself. [05:36] hahahahaha [05:36] now that is hillarious [05:36] I don't care who you are, dat dare is funny [05:36] lord forgive me and be with the starvin' pigmes down in new guinnea [05:36] I thought you were in marketing. This stuff should come natural to you. [05:36] marketing schmarketing [05:37] I like business management more than I do marketing [05:37] Ah. [05:37] unless of course, the marketing can pay me more :) [05:37] Like there's a difference [05:37] ya, business management wear the nice stuff, marketers where orange raybans [05:37] Marketing is external. Business management is internal. No real difference. [05:38] It's all selling. One way or another. [05:38] hey, if I do 'bzr commit', will it pop up emacs like svn does so I can enter my commit message? [05:39] or will it commit w/o a message === Igorot [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] why yes it does [05:53] why does it always rain when *I* do the laundry... [06:05] haha [06:16] Grr. I hate the real world. Why does it have to suck? [06:16] I just realised that I committed the kdebase updates, but forgot to commit the one kubuntuify_about patch :) [06:17] manchicken: if it didn't suck, then you wouldn't be spending so much time making Kubuntu rock! [06:17] think of it that way, at least that is how I live day-to-day :) [06:18] nixternal: No, because I'm looking for a new job because the board of directors fired my boss. My direct report is not someone I'm too interested in working for. [06:18] ahh, I love when that happens [06:19] Psht. [06:20] I fscking hate when this happens. [06:20] Especially when I just bought a house and my wife is about to have a baby. [06:20] It is so much easier to find work if you can relocate. [06:21] But there's no way I could actually sell this house right now for what I financed it for and still afford to buy another one. [06:22] actually, seeing as the rates are going down :) [06:23] manchicken: You find a company that wants you enough, they solve those kinds of problems. [06:23] ScottK: Well if I actually wanted to move that'd be nice, too. I'd really like to stay where I am. [06:24] Same goes for that. 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[11:08] uh oh [11:09] mhb: Not that terrible ;-) [11:09] Is the OOo version in Kubuntus 64bit edition a 64-bit build or a 32-bit build [11:09] I's just important for a gentoo bug... [11:09] Or better for the decision if it is a Gentoo bug or a 64bit issue [11:11] why shouldn't it be a 64bit build? [11:12] because the 64 bit build has been buggy for a long time and e.g. in SuSE 10.2 they packaged a 32bit build [11:15] Ok, it installs to /usr/lib and not to /usr/lib32, so I is probably a 64bit build. [11:15] <\sh> Kuhrscher, you can check by yourself...apt-get source openoffice-org or something and check debian/rules [11:15] Ah, thank you very much. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@85-250-210-16.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@168-160.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:48] the kubuntu website does not mention the availability of tribe 5 === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] vandenoever: it does, it's the second item on the front page [12:00] Riddell: oops, i'll adjust my mousewheel [12:02] :) === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:12] vandenoever: if you're installing kubuntu to check how well strigi works, our main problem currently is that it tends to use up 100% of CPU [12:12] ok === lllll [n=lucas@125-129.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] The main issue I have with desktop search in ubuntu is that there is strigi and tracker running at the same time:-( [01:00] hunger: yes, I'm not quite sure how best to fix that [01:00] Riddell: I removed tracker, but that nuked ubuntu-desktop for some reason which is not really nice. [01:01] Riddell: Will the strigi applet get fixed to not look for filenames only at some point? [01:02] hunger: I believe that's a deliberate design decision from vandenoever due to the limited UI [01:03] Oh. wouldn't locate be enough for that functionality then? [01:03] hunger: exactly, it is hard to show hit fragments in the small popup [01:03] vandenoever: ? [01:03] hunger: if you press enter, you get the full search [01:03] vandenoever: It does pop up a konqureror [01:03] here. [01:03] yes, with strigi:// [01:04] vandenoever: Can I exclude regexps from the pathes strigi looks at? So it eg. does not index all the stuff under .svn? [01:04] Somehow all the hits I get are in .svn dirs;-( [01:04] hunger: yes, you can do that from strigiclient [01:05] vandenoever: Great! [01:07] doesn't it ignore . directories by default? [01:08] it should, yes [01:08] you can check in the config file in ~/.strigi if it does [01:08] [01:09] I added some more versioning system dirs using strigiclient, but those do not show up in .strigi/daemon.conf === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@p57AF76B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:13] hunger: are they indexed? [01:13] vandenoever: No idea. [01:13] vandenoever: I just deleted the clucene DB to make room for more important stuff;-) === milian [n=milian@p57BB1926.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@213.151.124.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-49-70.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-64-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-76-212-64-183.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lllll [n=lucas@168-160.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] wb Hobbsee :) [02:16] ty [02:24] hi [02:24] elow [02:24] i'm trying to package iTest : http://itest.sourceforge.net/ [02:25] and there is one archive with two apps in it : itest server and iTest client [02:25] and i would like to find some documentation about this sort of packaging [02:28] i don't know how to build too apps in the same time and make it split into two package === \sh is now known as \sh_away === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg|mobile [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] marcel: see some of the links here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html and I'd suggest you apt-get source a package that is split into more than one package and have a look at how they do it. #ubuntu-motu is also a good place to ask [02:47] marseillai: see some of the links here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-resources.html and I'd suggest you apt-get source a package that is split into more than one package and have a look at how they do it. #ubuntu-motu is also a good place to ask [02:47] marcel: (wasn't meant for you sorry) [02:47] thanks stdin [02:47] i'll look later i've to halt now [02:52] once i changed gdm to kdm i lost the loginscreen in system>admin. how do i configure kdm now? adding themes sct... [02:52] ect... [02:56] System Settings > Appearance > KDM Theme Manager (you may need the "kdmtheme" package) [02:58] sorry... you have to use good old kcontrol === milian [n=milian@p57BB1926.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] no, it's in system settings in gutsy :) [02:59] stdin: try using it please :) [02:59] (unless it was fixed already) [02:59] ahh, ok so you can't use it :p [03:00] I guess my e-mail to k-devel went unnoticed so :) [03:00] ey wait [03:00] it's fixed now!! woot === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.48.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] silly qucik question what package do i need to get java and konqi to play nice? [03:01] sun-java6-bin or -jre [03:01] for firefox you would need the -plugin package [03:02] or.. kubuntu-restricted-extras :) [03:02] dang why did I forget that haha [03:02] stdin: where is it in gnome? [03:02] Jucato: -plugin installs those packages as well [03:02] so kubuntu-restricted-extras? [03:02] true... but I go minimal sometimes :) [03:03] yep. [03:03] gnome? umm dunno Alt-F2 systemsettings [03:03] Alt+F2, kcmshell kdmtheme [03:03] if you want directly [03:04] Jucato: both are needed? [03:04] kcmshell and kdmtheme [03:04] yep [03:04] one command [03:07] brb gonna see if this worked === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@213.151.124.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manckn@12-226-72-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh [04:03] if i have adept open and then open up system settings i'm not prompted for my password when i click on adminstrative [04:03] is that supposed to work that way? [04:04] didn't think that was how things sworkd in feisty [04:04] jjesse: yes. [04:04] jjesse: kdesudo p/w has a timeout now [04:04] oh cool === daSkreech [n=chatzill@72.252.28.11] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] Heya [04:28] heya [04:29] Hi Jucato [04:30] :) === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.48.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:56] Jucato: I read your last post on planet ubuntu. Nice article! [04:56] thanks :) [04:56] it was OK :p [04:57] hahah :) [04:57] he forgot the part of "if it wasn't for nixternal..." [04:57] KDE would be better probably :) [04:57] lol === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-154-24-84.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato blames troy for almost 6 hours of typing.... [04:59] I bet..I can tell that took some time [05:00] I do look Jonathan Carter's idea though of a poster with a similar structure and points [05:00] you might be on to something here [05:00] you just might be a marketer in disguise [05:00] lol [05:00] no way.. me is no marketeer [05:02] nice work, Jucato [05:02] sure you are [05:03] can't believe there hasn't been any trolls comment just yet, well besides me [05:03] hahah. hasn't been read yet [05:03] by many people [05:03] man, I think I might have just been quoted for a comment to a nasty statement on IRC :) [05:04] lovely [05:05] the Chicago GLUG has a Gnome Users' Group extension, and one of their statements, just got attacked by me :) [05:05] muhehehe [05:05] heheh [05:05] you know, I still haven't found the remote that closes my IRC connection [05:05] heck, I wish I had a remote that would work here === aplg|mobile [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:06] man, I am affraid to see what kind of grade of I got on my paper I wrote last week [05:06] the title: The State of Unreliability [05:07] the subtitle: If Windows was the answer, it must have been a stupid question [05:07] on the current advertisement of the state of Illinois switching over to a Microsoft infrastructure over Linux [05:07] ooooh you're in for a lot of trouble :) [05:08] well, the teacher I swore told us to pick the audience..and then we had to switch papers so other students could proof it, and nobody knew wth I was talking about [05:08] so all of my comments were "very well written and thought out, but the audience direction is not correct" [05:08] hahah === ScottK is glad he's not in college anymore. [05:09] from now on, I will start out my papers with "to my audience of the non-lame", so that way there if they don't get it, it wasn't meant for them :) [05:09] roflmao [05:10] the paper is supposed to be 3 pages long...I did 3 pages, single spaced...and the teacher is like, you wrote 6 pages...I was like huh? [05:10] she then proceded to tell me that in college all papers are to be double spaced...I asked if that is for the college of the lazy [05:10] I know going for my bachelors, if you double spaced a 10 page paper, the teacher was going to kill you, slowly at that [05:11] heh in our college, double space was the norm... even when writing on paper :) [05:11] it is sad, that our universities are starting to following k-12 education now in the US...I am seeing education being spoon fed once again and I can't stand that [05:11] s/following/follow === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Jucato actually blames the US for krappy education here :) [05:12] don't blame ya there [05:12] how so though? [05:13] Jucato: Sure. Why not. We get blamed for everything else. [05:13] hahahhaa [05:13] :) [05:13] being a "colony", we based our education system from the US [05:13] well, there was a strong US presents up to the beginning of the 90s there, so it is very well possible [05:13] s/presents/presence [05:13] jeesh, my typing skills are elite [05:13] there was a time when we had 7 grades (elementary), and started school in September... during the start of the typhoon season :) [05:14] haha, that is what you get for following anything the US does..that was our plan...lets put them all in school during the typhoon season [05:14] like we had any choice... :) [05:14] our national language wasn't English, but it was the medium of instruction... [05:14] even today :) [05:15] I have only been to the Philippines once, and I absolutely loved it there...probably for all of the wrong reasons too :) [05:15] so practically, our national language *is* English.. [05:15] I learned one dirty word my entire time there [05:16] hahah! [05:16] patagliamoo (say it, don't try to spell it though) [05:16] heh :) [05:16] am I even close? === Jucato wonders why all foreigners love trying to learn cuss words in Filipino :P [05:16] slightly... [05:17] there are many languages/dialects here... for all I know that could be in one of them :) [05:17] well, that is what you get when hanging out in the seedy bars of Manilla I guess [05:17] Jucato: I learn curse words wherever I go. [05:17] peckpet was another slang term, but I can't remember what it was [05:17] ah Manila, eh? well, slightly close... but not quite [05:17] I'm to old to remember them, but that's another story. [05:17] haha [05:17] hahah === Jucato is sooo glad jsgotangco isn't here :) [05:18] I loved pulling into port in Milaysia, Spain, Gibraltor, Greece, and Australia [05:18] it was probably Jerome who taught me that stuff [05:19] although, when he comes to Chicago, he never answers his cell phone when I call him :) [05:19] hahah === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato notes that jerome is in our loco channel right now :) === Zanav17 [i=top@gateway/tor/x-d7b7d08c3abd315a] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === llllllllllllllll [n=lucas@125-129.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:22] so running qmake-qt4 && lrelease-qt4 ???????.pro works but i don't succeed to do the same when building my packages. nor with cdbos or debhelper [06:22] some context might be useful === Pita [n=pita@c-67-190-48-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:50] I just reinsatlled Gutsy again on my machine to test it and I don't know why... the artwork is so beautiful. [06:51] heh :) [06:51] Except the icons. These are a little old school. [06:51] beautiful artwork is kwwii's doing [06:52] kwwii is a genius [06:52] yeah, that's why Ubuntu stole him :P [06:53] Is it means kwwii won't work on kubuntu anymore? :-O [06:53] sahin_h: thanks :-) check out the oxygen icons...they are out attempt at improving things [06:53] hm... sahin_h, fresh install of gutsy, is the resolution of usplash correct? [06:54] kwwii: Yes, oxygen is simply fantastic. However I have to wait for KDE4. [06:54] Jucato: Yes [06:54] hm.. mine isn't :( [06:54] oh well... I only see it for a few seconds :) [06:54] sahin_h: he's worked on kubuntu, that's why we have new artwork in gutsy [06:54] kwwii: btw.. if I haven't told you yet... you rock! :) [06:54] sahin_h: did you install from a daily CD? [06:55] Jucato: ;-) [06:55] Riddell: No, I used tribe5 [06:55] i love the new look [06:55] anyone have any problems w/ a hotplug package today doing updates? [06:56] I've a dual headed machine at my home, so I would like to see how it works. (Gutsy) [07:04] Anyone here using Compiz with the latest, greatest updates to Gutsy? Any ideas how to make it use the KDE window decorator instead of the Emerald one? It just switched on me with a recent update, and I can't figure out how to make it go back [07:08] Or should I be asking this in #ubuntu-effects? [07:08] i like the restart is required that is new [07:09] jjesse: oh that worked? [07:09] Riddell: yeah, didn't know what the icon in the tray was, so i clicked on it and it told me a reboot was prompted [07:09] then it asked me to reboot and rebooted === aplg|mobile [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:10] Pita: dunno I've afraid, that channel may be better [07:13] Riddell: If you can get me a Konsole .deb for the pty crash, I can test it on a box known to have that problem. [07:14] ScottK: feisty or gutsy? [07:14] amd64 or i386? [07:14] I've done Gutsy and it's fine (i386) [07:14] I just commented in hte bug. === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071096.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:14] I can test Feisty if I get a Feisty .deb. [07:15] Or I can just do it after it's in feisty-propsed if you'd prefer. [07:15] I'm building now, will take a couple of hours [07:17] OK. I'll be around for ~ 4 hours. === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:22] Riddell: can the strigi systray applet be configured to do content search rather than file search? [07:28] mendred: that would need to be changed in the source code I think [07:29] Riddell: ok thanks === Pita [n=pita@c-67-190-48-101.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:31] Riddell: ideally shouldn't the parameter to be searched be configurabe? say either content.keyword/audio.album etc..like how strigiclient presents it? [07:32] or for simplicity should it just be content.keyword to search anything and everything? [07:32] ok getting a problem updating my gutsy install [07:32] Errors were encountered while process hotkey-setup [07:33] jjesse: poke sladen [07:33] actually, he's probably travelling [07:34] so report a bug [07:34] Riddell: ok will do [07:34] jjesse: how were you updating? [07:34] apt-get update [07:35] sounds like it could be problematic for beta [07:35] it causes a problem for kubuntu-desktop as well === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@ubuntu/member/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:36] hotkey-setup does? [07:37] Riddell: yes, errors occured processing hotkey-setup and kubuntu-desktop === apachelogger_ [n=me@N736P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] is that against the package hotkey-setup/ [07:41] yes [07:50] there is a bug filed against it [07:50] subscribed [07:51] what's the number? === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] Riddell: would you have time to help me on CDBS ? [07:56] i got a debian rules done with deb_helper this part works : http://pastebin.com/m5217e200 but i would like to port it on CDBS and i don't succeed. :s do you have an idea? [08:04]