[12:41] ScottK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clamav/+bug/141073 the last command I didn't sent it ? was the builder or some automated thing ? [12:42] Launchpad bug 141073 in clamav "Remote DoS and Remote execution" [Undecided,Fix released] [12:44] leonel: a soyuz feature, yes [12:45] leonel: it closes bugs with 'LP: #nnnn' syntax in changelog === valles_ [n=valles@190.37.188.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] pochu: thanks === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@95.Red-83-32-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] nixternal: thanks, I've got them building now. :) === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.233.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-a77dc821d6c60683] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tad_ [n=tad@cpe-204-210-227-26.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] win 4 [02:14] Gr. === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === begert_ [n=booga@cpe-74-74-217-64.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === begert_ [n=booga@cpe-74-74-217-64.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Acksys [n=acksys@74.255.74.109] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger__ [n=me@N932P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@pool-71-187-249-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:08] Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why am I getting this error: CONFFLAGS += --libdir=/usr/lib32 [04:08] make: CONFFLAGS: Command not found [04:09] Heya gang === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] Hey bddebian. [04:10] Hi TheMuso === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] keescook: thanks! [04:11] YokoZar_: did you put that in a target? === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussio1 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussio1 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] pwnguin: it's right before this line: CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" LDFLAGS="$(LDFLAGS)" ./configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) --build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) --prefix=/usr --mandir=\$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\$${prefix}/share/info $(CONFFLAGS) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] yea [04:13] thats a comman [04:13] see how it actually does something? [04:13] yeah [04:13] the CONFFLAGS doesnt === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] YokoZar_: take it out of the target [04:16] & place it before the targets (non-indented) [04:18] ahh thanks [04:18] Hmm what to break today.. [04:20] bddebian: How 'bout X? We haven't had a good solid X breakage in a long time. [04:21] Heh, I'm not allowed to break that one :-) [04:21] break cwiid === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=root@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose deep in thought === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lando [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] Gah, what freeze are we in now? [05:15] beta [05:16] Hrm [05:17] bddebian: for universe? uvf and npf [05:17] bddebian: we dont freeze universe for the beta. [05:17] npf? [05:17] new package freeze [05:18] Well I just uploaded a bug fix for airstrike and it says it's waiting approval.. [05:18] The mail to ubuntu-devel suggests that all packages will need a manual shove. [05:18] But only main packages need ACKs from the release team. [05:19] bddebian: yes, it does require manual approval, but they just shove all the universe stuff thru when htey see it [05:19] AH, OK, thx === Hobbsee wonders why she has xserver-xorg-video-ati on this machine... [05:19] bddebian: same as the tribe freezes === pwnguin wondered the same thing [05:19] bddebian: (they cant freeze one component, and not another) [05:19] Aye, fair enough [05:21] hi Hobbsee [05:21] hiya ajmitch! [05:23] what's new? [05:23] Hrmph, hi to you too ajmitch :-) [05:24] hi [05:26] Hmm, interesting new backgroun [05:26] +d [05:27] looks like there'll be a number of google people at UDS [05:28] Looks like I won't be going :'-( [05:28] google schmoogle [05:28] oh well [05:28] oh well too [05:29] bddebian: but it's only a few minutes down the road for you [05:29] jsgotangco: you're not going? === Hobbsee isnt cool neough to go. [05:29] too busy, i have commitments to hong kong in november [05:29] I know but I have a business meeting and my kids would disown me if I missed Halloween :-( [05:29] that's a shame [05:29] Hobbsee: bs === jdong considers the 2-block walk :) [05:30] let's see though [05:30] bddebian: :) [05:30] no, really, i just ahve uni [05:30] i won't be going to sponsoring route though, probably my own expense [05:30] Hobbsee: I'm the same, it's ok to be uncool [05:30] if it happens === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] ya, I emailed claire back and said if I make it, I will make it on my own, leave the sponsorship to someone who needs it [05:31] nixternal: Well at least you got asked.... [05:32] [05:32] ;-) [05:32] heh [05:32] lol [05:32] don't why I keep getting asked [05:32] scottk, bitter again? who would have thought it? :) [05:32] nixternal: at least *you* got asked... :) [05:32] haha, beat me to it :-) [05:32] maybe they want you to be part of the borg [05:32] I don't do anything important anyways...if they don't start cooling down who they sponsor, eventually a UDS will be nothing more than a social event [05:32] ajmitch: Actually I'm not bitter tonight for a change. I had a good evening. [05:32] ScottK: great [05:33] ScottK: I'm not bitter, just regretting going to bed so late last night [05:33] nixternal: docs are important === Hobbsee heads to work [05:33] ajmitch: heh ;) [05:33] bye Hobbsee! === nixternal thinks the community stuff (ie. LoCo teams and what not) can be done on IRC === ajmitch blames the Hobbsee === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] Hobbsee: docs are far from important...especially important enough to be at a UDS...now for one of the DE's, ya, docs are a little more important [05:34] nixternal: it ends up working better (community stuff) in person [05:34] you get more stuff done [05:34] plus, it would just be jjesse and myself there, we live across the lake from each other :) [05:34] lol [05:34] its still nice to go to a UDS though [05:34] unexpected things happen [05:34] ya, I will get to one eventually [05:34] nixternal: and I live just across the ditch from hobbsee.. what's your point? :) [05:34] like being handled to be dunked to a pool [05:34] ajmitch: none actually [05:35] (almost) [05:35] heh [05:35] well, 'just across the ditch' being a 3 & 1/2 hour flight [05:35] yay for living in NZ [05:35] ajmitch [05:35] are you going to LCA [05:36] no idea [05:36] I'd need to find time off work [05:36] thinking to go, i have a place to stay in melbourne anyways [05:36] that's cool [05:36] I've got a few friends there [05:37] maybe I should defer the holiday I was planning to have [05:37] so that I can go to LCA instead :) [05:37] hehe === ajmitch was going to go to melbourne anyway === Igorot [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] (won't be able to make the motu meeting, will be on a plane) [06:09] Have a good trip for whatever your definition of good is. === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] The MOTU meeting will be at... 10pm (A)EST, right? [06:21] Sounds right, but Australian time zones aren't my speciality. [06:22] It's 12 UTC, and we're UTC+10, so... :) [06:22] (right?) [06:22] Yea [06:22] Yes === ajmitch wonders if he'll still be awake === ScottK is used to minusing timezones. === StevenK wonders if he'll actually be home [06:23] maybe I can sleep after work & get up later === RAOF may well not be awake. [06:23] or just play WoW to kill time :) [06:23] Good night all. [06:23] night ScottK [06:23] I wanted to level up tonight, but I'm at my mothers instead. :-/ [06:23] aw [06:23] ajmitch: Join twisted-matrix on frostmourne, damnit :) [06:24] what level are you at? [06:24] hehe [06:24] ajmitch: 29 [06:24] RAOF: sure, my warlock on frostmourne will be so useful there :) [06:24] ajmitch: 22, 18. 4 [06:24] about level 7 [06:24] StevenK: Want a really convoluted Perl problem to solve? === StevenK was happily killing level 30 Fetid Corpses for 400 XP a hit last night === ajmitch has 60, 9 on khaz'goroth [06:25] ScottK: Sure [06:25] OK. [06:25] if I'm lucky I can hit 61 by the end of the weekend :) [06:25] Well, I have a 29, 16 and 17 [06:25] mail-spf-perl passes all it's tests nicely with libnet-dns-perl 0.59. [06:25] That's what we had when we uploaded. [06:25] I want to hit 30 tonight. Then I get a new minion [06:26] RAOF: I presume it's a horde guild? [06:26] With 0.60 (that we have now) it fails the IPv6 tests because some new Net::DNS magic got added. [06:26] ajmitch: Yes. [06:26] So now that magic turns "A" or "AAAA" queries into "PTR" queries automagically. [06:26] This is not good. [06:26] ScottK: That could possibly be beyond my Perl skills to fix0r [06:26] RAOF: I might jump online when I get home [06:27] OK. [06:27] Well the mail-spf-perl upstream is working it, but he's in Germany and just collapsed at 6AM. [06:27] ScottK: So the testsuite fails, basically, and you want me to fix it? [06:27] If you feel like it. [06:27] It's be a good geek challenge. [06:27] Otherwise I'll wait for upstream to sort it in a few days. [06:27] ScottK: Learn Perl. :-P [06:28] ajmitch: Coordinate with jml if you wish to join twisted-matrix (please do, we need sigs :)) [06:28] my eyes. [06:28] mmm wow === StevenK is currently employed to write Perl [06:28] Yeah. [06:28] lifeless: Are you on Dath'Remar? :-P [06:28] RAOF: not a raiding guild, I take it? :) [06:28] OK, well I'll go to bed now. [06:28] I'm in twisted-matrix [06:28] hi lifeless [06:28] my mains are all jubei'thos ally [06:28] ajmitch: Not yet :) [06:29] hmm, I really should push through to 70 [06:29] RAOF: I'll try & track down jml sometime then [06:29] lifeless: Turn up for some twisted-matrix, please. I've got a bunch of stuff to push on your character :P [06:29] RAOF: I would have the other day, but noone sms'd me [06:30] when I sign off work, irc is in the wrong room [06:31] Fair enough. 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[08:24] is there some standard way to use make debhelper use different files (package.dirs, package.install etc) depending on the build architecture? [08:25] Hm. Not that I know of, but that's not to say that there isn't. [08:26] paran: What are you trying to do? === pgquiles__ [n=pgquiles@222.Red-81-34-4.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF thinks TheMuso is obviously more awake than him. === ant30 [n=aperezar@38.Red-80-36-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] so how does one go about pushing bug fixes into universe these days? [08:30] the wiki's got a couple ideas [08:30] pwnguin: If the bug is filed, attach a debdiff, and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors. [08:31] pwnguin: Also be sure to put the bug number in the changelog, like LP: #number to automatically close the bug when the package is uploaded. [08:31] ah [08:31] RAOF: I've been doing Ubuntu related stuff most of the day, so my mind is somewhat switched on for Ubuntu stuff atm. === amachu_ [n=amachu@202.71.146.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] TheMuso: install 32bit libraries in usr/lib32 on amd64 [08:33] paran: As I don't have an amd64, I don't know the layout of such stuff, so I don't feel I can comment, without having a good understanding of things. [08:33] paran: That's a good question. [08:34] paran: So, the stupid way that I can think of in my current state is to have a -32 package built only on amd64. That is however stupid. [08:35] Unless you actually need to separate stuff with .install files, you could also just set a different --libprefix based on dpkg-architecture? [08:36] Please take these ramblings with a good pinch of salt. I'm tired. === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF goes to "fix" xgl. [08:37] RAOF: I am modifying an existing package and don't wich to do intrusive stuff. it uses .install files === jussio1 hands RAOFa bigger hamme [08:38] r === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-157-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] Mmmm. --loose-binding. For when you don't *really* need to be able to see the buttons. === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] paran: The only other ways I can think of at the moment are evil, evil hacks. [08:43] paran: Ooooh. The wine packages on REVU should handle this properly, I think. YOu may want to check them. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F71208.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] good morning [08:49] morning dholbach [08:50] hey jussio1 [08:52] RAOF: they don't, thats the one I am looking at :-) [08:52] paran: Oh. Whoops! === javierder [n=javier@226-96-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.249.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] <\sh> moins === MehdiHassanpour [n=Mehdi@ubuntu/member/MehdiHassanpour] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] hi, I don't receive updates after a "sudo apt-get update" command, seems Packages or Releases files from apt server are being cached! any help or configuration on the server? === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] Good morning! [09:22] Hey dholbach. [09:22] Hey asisak. [09:23] hey TheMuso [09:23] Hey TheMuso, dholbach. === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.144.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === POX_ [i=piotr@stallman.rootnode.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@41.233.82.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] Hello, can I enable restricted,universe & multiverse repos in pbuilder ? [09:54] I uncommented this line in /etc/pbuilderrc: COMPONENTS="main restricted universe multiverse" [09:54] AnAnt: you should update your pbuilder [09:55] Actually you have to run "pbuilder update --override-config" [09:57] asisak: thanks === AnAnt [n=anant@41.233.82.109] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-222-139.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === huats [n=huats@194.98.120.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@95.Red-83-32-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@dyna227-234.nada.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F767F7.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] does anyone know what happened to persia? [10:27] dholbach: got invaded by America about 5 years ago [10:29] sladen: Emmet Hikory === pfein_ [n=pfein@134.sub-70-195-108.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] dholbach: idle 7 hours and identified to serivces [10:34] sladen: gracias === pochu [n=emilio@95.Red-83-32-161.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [n=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] See you later. === yamal [n=yamal@Room641A.no-such-agency.net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] <\sh> what is the correct tool to produce an iso from a dvd in gnome today? [11:01] <\sh> ah found it === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twb [n=twb@nat20.cyber.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] What is the procedure for ITPing a package that's currently in Debian but not Ubuntu? [11:03] Sorry, RFP not ITP [11:04] REVU? [11:04] twb: why not sync it? [11:04] pochu: I'm not an Ubuntu maintainer. === rastal [n=samuelig@214.pool85-57-129.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] twb: you don't need to. We sync packages from Debian, i.e. we take the Debian package 'as it is' [11:05] Well, I can't find empty-expect in your package tree. [11:06] Because we are in Sync Freeze. But it should be automatically synced once Hardy opens the repositories === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@a89-182-65-94.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] When does that happen? When Gutsy is released? [11:07] twb: yes, though it might take a while, since archive admins will have a lot of work :) [11:07] which package are you after? === oracle2025 [n=oracle@85-127-189-102.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] But it should be imported automatically === pwnguin considers a ten dollar standard fee to bring packages from debian into his ppa [11:08] twb: which package are you after? [11:08] pwnguin: "his ppa" is a third-party archive? [11:08] pwnguin: as I said, empty-expect. [11:09] I am quite capable of backporting it myself, but it is always preferable for a package to be apt-gettable without messing with sources.list. [11:11] well that'll likely be the route you take, as i don't see an exception being had [11:11] I can quite accept that. [11:11] but it'll pull into heron automatically [11:11] I just wasn't sure whether syncs had to be / could be requested by users, or if they just happened automatically. [11:12] Now I know. === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] Toodle-pipski! === twb [n=twb@nat20.cyber.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["rcirc] === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MehdiHassanpour [n=Mehdi@ubuntu/member/MehdiHassanpour] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] hi motu, how can I categorize packages in a repository? for example to have "backports" "meta" "main" ... categories === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko [n=doko@161.116.111.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.222.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger_ [n=me@N830P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.241.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@82.58.194.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dfiloni [n=dfiloni@87.7.33.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zenton [n=vicente@212.166.192.134] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD919.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zenton [n=vicente@212.166.192.134] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD602E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] hi [12:52] new kernel package for -virtual? Virtual processors? ...... ok someone has to link me on this one. >.> [12:52] (yes I'm being a pest lately) [12:52] damnit [12:52] I was asked to update pax-utils for Gutsy but I didn't === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nicke [n=niclasa@dyna227-234.nada.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-89-116.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ng_ [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] hi motu, how can I categorize packages in a repository? for example to have "backports" "meta" "main" ... categories === Ng_ [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@7-163.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] Hey folks. === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] g'day TheMuso [01:51] meeting this morning isnt there? [01:52] Yes [01:52] In 8 minutes. [01:53] sigh === ajmitch should be asleep [01:53] ajmitch: Nobody is forcing you to attend. [01:53] you should but its the weekend for you isnt it? [01:53] TheMuso: no, but I really should === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] ajmitch: You have been a regular at the last few. I think you have earned the break. === Fujitsu sighs at bug #141481 [01:54] Launchpad bug 141481 in dash "dash as #!/bin/sh introduces countless incompatibilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141481 [01:55] haha [01:57] bazaar.launchpad.net and codebrowse.launchpad.net are going down for emergency maintenance, ETD is 10 minutes [02:00] dholbach: IIRC, persia got tackled by real life ($WORK). [02:00] MOTU Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting [02:00] ScottK: Not so much $(WORK), but otherwise :) [02:00] Ah. OK. [02:00] Coming to the meeting? [02:01] persia: I'd be interested to hear the story at some point. [02:01] ScottK: Not very interesting, but sure. [02:01] wb persia! === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.51.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard_ [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mumbly2 [n=olivier@centresocialcosne.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mumbly2 [n=olivier@centresocialcosne.org] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] === lmr [i=lmr@nat/ibm.br/x-534acb48598e48ed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB58.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-243-7-114.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] where should i start looking to fix a problem (apparently caused by a) postinst script? [02:45] its bug 139252 i think [02:45] Launchpad bug 139252 in mediawiki "package mediawiki 1:1.10 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139252 [02:45] yes, that one === ScottK looks [02:46] ty [02:46] kgoetz: the postinst scripts are usually in /var/lib/dpkg/info [02:48] persia: it exits with 1 when you attempt to install it, which is ' echo "postinst called with unknown argument \`$1'" >&2', but i dont know where to start looking for what called it === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] kgoetz: /var/lib/dpkg/info/mediawiki.postinst would be called automatically by the package installation system. I would suspect an issue with the mediawiki handling rather than with dpkg. [02:50] persia! [02:50] persia: How goes it? [02:50] StevenK: Um. Better? I still have lousy resolution, but the temperature is down. [02:51] persia: Oh, I didn't know you were ill, I just haven't seen you for a while. === radhios [n=radhios@unaffiliated/radhios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] StevenK: Not that, it's just that my workstation doesn't like ambients much over 30 degrees :) === suppressingfire [n=burner@cpe-24-24-95-18.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] (it's summer on the top end of the world) [02:52] Send it here :-) [02:52] heh [02:52] StevenK: I'm not sure that helps me much ... [02:53] summer is over rated === suppressingfire [n=burner@cpe-24-24-95-18.stny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TheMuso kicks the internode mirror. === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] ooo. I like the new page layout for launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/packagename [02:56] persia: in the top end of the world it's actually fall now (well, in two days) [02:57] Amaranth: Yep, and for the third time since mid-July, my workstation hasn't crashed within the first hour since activation :) [02:57] TheMuso: too bad it's not possible to _remove_ an association [02:57] persia: do you think the postinst needs rewritting or something? [02:57] Amaranth: heh [02:58] TheMuso: ...wow! [02:58] Hobbsee: Yup. [02:59] kgoetz: I'm not actually familiar with the mediawiki packaging, but that error message usually means that something in the postinst needs adjustment: usually either a small syntax change, or sometimes a check to make sure that the assumptions in place when the script was written still apply. [02:59] TheMuso: When did that change? Look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyspf and tell me that's not FUBAR. [03:00] kgoetz: For example, the postinst might assume that /bin/sh is bash, or something. [03:00] persia: ah i see. [03:00] ScottK: I don't see a problem? === jdong neither [03:00] Amaranth: There are several. [03:00] me neither === nil [i=2fd4639c@pepin.poivron.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] 1. It's no longer possible to see at a glance what's in all the relevant pockets [03:01] 2. The "current" version listed there is in one case a backports version. [03:01] err, gutsy, feisty, edgy, dapper? [03:01] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyspf/+publishinghistory has pocket data [03:01] hi.... [03:01] oh, i see what you mean [03:01] the old page is +publishinghistory [03:01] Right. so we hide the useful in formation even further. === nil is building his first package [03:01] no [03:02] we show the useful info [03:02] and hide the detailed info [03:02] The versions are out of order. === jdong thinks changelog and version overview is useful information [03:02] which is the relevant channel? #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-modu ? [03:02] The changelogs are incomplete. [03:02] it will also deprecate p.u.c [03:02] I prefer to see the changelog to the publishing history: it's often what I sought in the first place. [03:02] Actually it's complete, just out of sequence [03:02] ScottK: they are? [03:02] So you have to sort it in your head. [03:03] nil: This is typically the relevant channel, but be advised you'll get better support when a release isn't planned in the next month or so. === jdong counts back version numbers.... [03:03] they seem completely in order [03:03] ScottK: the only problem i see is the backport [03:03] The edgy backport confuses thing. [03:03] in terms of publishing history [03:03] Yes [03:03] but not in terms of acutal order of version number [03:04] Plus the changed by lines are NOT the ones in the debian/changelog. [03:04] the only exceptions should be backporting, updates, and badly named packages? [03:04] So this is the thing that LP pretends are changelog entries that aren't. [03:04] yeah, looking at the backport it has no changed-by [03:04] It's hard to say which is correct, especially when supporting backports, SRUs, etc. [03:04] so it's not d/ch, it's just LP metadata outputed in a similar format [03:04] jdong: Right. So they shouldn't say it's what it's not. === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] well it says it's a "version history" [03:05] OK. [03:05] and it tells me why a patch was added and why [03:05] so i can smack the appropriate person :) [03:05] err, when a patch was added and why [03:05] now.. what we need.... is a diff-betweeen-releases button! [03:05] Also the link to the old information is not on the page. That's very poor web design. [03:06] ScottK: it is [03:06] Where? [03:06] Action -> Show Pub History [03:06] ScottK: left column [03:06] OK. See it now. [03:06] I agree "publishing history" sounds unintuitive for hte old interface, though [03:07] jdong: Really? It seemed clear to me. [03:07] Also the publishing history has a link to itself not a link back to the new front page for the package. [03:07] ScottK: That'd be a bug :) [03:07] persia: heh might just be me then :) [03:08] Well, as I said yesterday, I'm planning on drastically reducing my involvement in Ubuntu after the Gutsy release, so no matter. [03:08] persia: ok thanks. I can understand it :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] nil: Still, it doesn't hurt to ask. Are you having specific trouble, or just need a hand getting started? [03:09] night all. i'll worry about mediawiki another time. [03:09] persia: no prob. I was on the debian devel channel, but felt not so comfortable... [03:10] persia: so, switching to ubuntu :) [03:10] persia: no troll... [03:11] I do think that showing the backports version as the current version is flat out wrong. [03:11] yeah, that's a little weird [03:11] ScottK: Definitely. I suspect they should show all the pockets. [03:11] i can see including security and updates [03:11] but backports should be separate === jdong agrees with that [03:12] backports should show up separately [03:12] but security and possibly -updates should mix in [03:12] Fujitsu: Exactly. That's why at a glance this is yet another LP U/I regression. [03:12] I'm in agreement that backports should be separate, but have no suggestions for an interface for the separation. [03:13] ScottK: But it shows less information! It is BETTER! [03:13] persia: I have one. Put the old interface back. [03:13] my suggestion is just to show them as distros. [03:13] Fujitsu: it shows the changelog. that's better. [03:13] releases, rather... [03:13] Hobbsee: Except it doesn't. [03:13] ScottK: it shows enough of them, i thought. [03:13] Hobbsee: I'd rather they put the "changelog" under the old UI and call it a day... [03:13] It show a cumulation of information from .changes files [03:13] persia: Have each distroseries row split into... 4 rows, I guess. [03:13] which is pulled from changelog files... [03:13] Hobbsee: we established that the "changelog" is rather publishing history with .changes attached [03:13] ScottK: Hmm.. Or perhaps include the new (better) information in an Actions link until it's cleaner... [03:14] Hobbsee: the ordering and changed-by have nothing to do with the changelog history itself [03:14] Hobbsee: Sort of, but in a very mangled and often useless manner. [03:14] jdong: The "changelog" was in the old UI: under Actions..View Changelog [03:14] persia: And it was equally not the changelog there either. [03:14] Fujitsu: to me, this looks like a unmangled lot. but oh well, why dont you speak to the guy who did it [03:14] persia: better to have it at-a-glance though.... [03:14] ScottK: Agreed. === Hobbsee is starting to wonder if ScottK is happy with anything in ubuntu. [03:15] persia: like for backports I'd like to be able to type "lps packagename" into firefox and see a changelog with version numbers of releases. [03:15] Hobbsee: I am very happy to use Ubuntu and participate in the process. [03:15] jdong: Agreed, but the idea of adding the upstream info to that page before changing the default seems like an alternative way to get input before annoying ScottK :) [03:15] hehe :) [03:15] Hobbsee: I've pretty well given up on anything more. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] IMO LP is getting steadily worse. Changes aren't thought through (my favorite recent one being PPA uploads closing bugs). [03:16] darn, I missed the Meeting. again [03:17] couldn't attend anyway [03:17] Processes are getting more complex to little or not benifit. [03:17] I just don't feel so great about it. [03:17] *PPA uploads can close bugs?* [03:17] I read in the backlog that you discussed some 'alternative sponsorship process'. [03:17] jdong: They do it frequently. [03:17] It's very nice. [03:17] but I fail to spot what conclusion the discussion had. can someone help me here? [03:18] jdong: Yes. Put (LP: #nnnnn) in your debian/changelog and upload it to a PPA. LP will close the bug for you. [03:18]