[01:24] <stiv2k> hi.. webmin is configured to sync my server's clock once a day at midnight, but i don't think it's doing it because every time i sync it manually, it's always way off
[01:36] <mathiaz> !webmin | stiv2k
[01:36] <ubotu> stiv2k: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[01:44] <stiv2k> mathiaz: i see... any alternatives?????
[01:44] <stiv2k> mathiaz: what about usermin? same dilemma?
[01:45] <mathiaz> stiv2k: yeah... it'S the same project.
[01:47] <mralphabet> !rtp
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <mralphabet> hrm
[02:00] <stiv2k> mralphabet: what is rtp?
[02:10] <mralphabet> !ntp
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <mralphabet> http://www.ntp.org/
[02:11] <mralphabet> stiv2k: ^^
[02:38] <sahafeez> question - i just nuked my gentoo server and moved it over to ubuntu server 7.04
[02:38] <sahafeez> before i did that i cp -R about 400gb of stuff of to a usb2 hd
[02:39] <sahafeez> i am trying to move the data back now after installing ubuntu and the system is just drag and slow when the copy from the usb is going....
[02:39] <sahafeez> is there something about moving from usb to local vs the other way that would cause this to drag so much
[02:45] <sahafeez> can i remount an active filesystem with noatime? like /
[02:55] <kgoetz> anyyone here running with dspam-web frontend?
[04:26] <sahafeez> question - i just moved from gentoo to ubuntu server.
[04:26] <sahafeez> i am trying to copy my data back from a usb attached drive.
[04:27] <sahafeez> when the copy is running the system is well - slugish as heck. simple cmds take secs to return
[04:27] <sahafeez> both filesystems have been mounted with noatime
[04:29] <sahafeez> anyone>/
[05:39] <maestrojed> I want to turn my ubuntu feisty box into a file server for my small office.  I decided to go the route of running SAMBA.  I followed this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 and understand how to have windows users connect.  What do I need to do (if anything) to have my Macintosh users connect?
[05:52] <maestrojed> I am running a LAMP server on my linux box,  What do I need to do to change the webroot directory?  Do I just change it in apache, Do I have to edit php, mysql?
[08:25] <kraut> moin
[09:30] <AnRkey> will ebox be ready for gutsy?
[09:37] <dexem> AnRkey: I think soren was doing that job, and he wrote one post on his post giving few hopes, but I don't know current status
[09:37] <dexem> on his blog :P
[09:37] <soren> AnRkey: No, it won't.
[09:37] <soren> Sorry
[09:40] <AnRkey> but it's soooo cool for my techs here
[09:41] <AnRkey> soren, how can i help out?
[09:41] <soren> AnRkey: You can't, really :) It's too late. It simply didn't make it in time.
[09:41] <soren> AnRkey: Rest assuered, though, that it will be ready and shiny for hardy.
[09:42] <AnRkey> soren, I will be testing it for, thanks for the work so far
[09:44] <soren> :)
[09:44] <AnRkey> i want to move all my suse box's to ubuntu and use them for my whitelisting on our school network
[09:45] <AnRkey> we have 2 proxies and I need techs to be able to use them easily, so it's looks exciting
[09:46] <soren> AnRkey: eBox is a very exciting project indeed. I'm very enthusiastic about getting it into Ubuntu for our next release.
[09:47] <AnRkey> i have just downloaded the debian iso for it
[09:47] <AnRkey> gonna give it a go and see if it can tide us over
[09:47] <AnRkey> we have switched to a whitelisting proxy due to kids getting hold of porn all the time
[09:48] <AnRkey> later
[09:50] <soren> ./
[09:50] <soren> Um..
[09:58] <c1|freaky> hi all. i have a problem with svn since 2 days, it's not ubuntu specific but it would be nice if someone familiar with svn would have a look at it. in #svn 3 people also couldnt help me. http://main.freakyy.de/svn_err.txt
[10:03] <c1|freaky> another question: how much experience should one have to be able to help with server related stuff?
[10:10] <Jonex> When I try to ssh to my server box, the password doesn't seem to work, can it be some config error?
[10:11] <c1|freaky> it can if you for example only allow spefic users to log in using ssh.
[10:11] <c1|freaky> *specific
[10:11] <Jonex> But this is the main user (only on I have)
[10:11] <Jonex> And I haven't edited the ssh config at all.
[10:12] <c1|freaky> so you can't get onto the box right now?
[10:12] <Jonex> Nope
[10:12] <Jonex> Shouldn't it say "user not authenticated" or something like that?
[10:12] <Jonex> Well, I haven't been able to do it before either.
[10:12] <Jonex> But the config should be like on a fresh install.
[10:13] <c1|freaky> usually, if it is the only user beside root, and if u have not changed any of the ssh configs, you should be able to login using the right password
[10:15] <Jonex> Is there any unix command to open an upnp port?
[10:15] <Jonex> *linux
[10:15] <c1|freaky> no idea ;)
[11:13] <Jonex> Where can I see who have rights to ssh to the computer?
[11:23] <soren> Everyone does.
[11:24] <soren> Unless you've blocked them in iptables or locked them out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config or disabled their shell or..
[11:24] <soren> :)
[11:24] <Jonex> I don't think I have, but I get "permission denied" when I try to connect.
[11:24] <Jonex> Well, when I try to enter my password.
[11:25] <Jonex> It doesn't say if it is because the password is wrong, the user doesn't have access, the ip is wrong or there is no such user
[11:25] <Jonex> ju "Permission denied, Please try again."
[11:26] <Jonex> Is there any simple command to reset any ssh-settings?
[11:26] <Jonex> s/any/all/
[11:26] <Jonex> In case I have done something stupid to them.
[11:40] <soren> It's not really something you can do by accident.
[11:41] <soren> And no, it purposely doesn't reveal why you can't log in. That's a security measure.
[11:41] <soren> You can, however, look in the auth.log on the server.
[11:41] <soren> Jonex: ^^
[11:42] <Jonex> soren: Oh, where is auth.log?
[11:42] <soren> Jonex: /var/log along with all your other log files :)
[11:43] <Jonex> ok, thanks, gonna try that
[11:44] <soren> np
[11:46] <Jonex> Hmm, auth.log.0 is it?
[11:48] <soren> no.
[11:48] <soren> That's the old one.
[11:48] <Jonex> ok
[01:09] <lafuma> hello, can anyone help me with openssl ?
[01:14] <lafuma> anyone ?
[01:15] <soren> ask your question
[01:16] <lafuma> well, i installed apache, mysql,php, ssl etc. after this tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704
[01:16] <lafuma> it worked fine after restart
[01:16] <lafuma> i read it demands open_ssl passphrase at the beginning when i started the server
[01:16] <lafuma> i suspect this is the problem why ssl is not working
[01:17] <lafuma> any chance i can make it not to ask the ssl passphrase upon restart ?
[01:17] <lafuma> since i cant access the machine physically
[01:18] <soren> lafuma: Don't set a passphrase for your private key.
[01:18] <soren> openssl rsa -in key.pem -out keyout.pem
[01:18] <lafuma> okay
[01:19] <lafuma> i'm not so familiar with this thing
[01:19] <lafuma> can you be more precise ?
[01:20] <lafuma> it would mean a lot, since i have to take the server to the server housing today
[01:21] <soren> Uh.. I can't possibly be more precise than give you the exact command you need to type :)
[01:21] <soren> You have a key.
[01:21] <lafuma> yes
[01:21] <soren> Let's call it key.pem
[01:21] <lafuma> i have lots of them
[01:21] <soren> Then you write:
[01:21] <lafuma> yes
[01:21] <soren> openssl rsa -in key.pem -out keyout.pem
[01:22] <soren> Henceforth, use keyout.pem. It's the key without the passphrase.
[01:22] <soren> Done.
[01:22] <lafuma> bah, i must be a complete idiot
[01:23] <lafuma> keys, certificates, passphrases.... argggh
[01:24] <lafuma> the thing is
[01:24] <soren> keys are the secret stuff. passphrases is what you use to encrypt your key. certificates are like the public keys.
[01:25] <lafuma> i have lots iof .pam files under /etc/ssl/certs
[01:25] <soren> /etc/ssl/certs
[01:25] <soren> Er..
[01:25] <soren> No.
[01:25] <soren> /etc/ssl/private.
[01:25] <lafuma> oh
[01:25] <soren> You've created this key yourself, right?
[01:26] <lafuma> there i have .key file
[01:26] <lafuma> yes, i remember creating it
[01:26] <lafuma> but my real problem is that it asks it upon restarting
[01:26] <lafuma> how can i make it not to ask it :)
[01:28] <soren> I've already told you.
[01:28] <soren> Twice.
[01:28] <soren> openssl rsa -in key.pem -out keyout.pem
[01:28] <soren> That's it.
[01:29] <soren> If there's no passphrase, it won't ask.
[01:29] <lafuma> allright
[01:29] <lafuma> i dont have the key.pem under /etc/ssl/private
[01:30] <soren> ...
[01:30] <soren> Where is it, then?
[01:31] <lafuma> i dont even have a file named key.pem
[01:31] <soren> Look....
[01:31] <lafuma> i have loads of *.pem files under /etc/ssl/certs
[01:31] <soren> You haven't told me where it is or what it's called..
[01:31] <soren> It doesn't matter.
[01:31] <lafuma> where is what ? :(
[01:32] <soren> You need to go to the right directory (only you know this) and type that command and use the filenames *you* used.
[01:33] <lafuma> where is it by default ?
[01:34] <soren> There is no default.
[01:34] <lafuma> well, i followed this tutorial
[01:34] <soren> WEll, yes, under /etc/ssl somehwere.
[01:34] <lafuma> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704
[01:34] <lafuma> this one
[01:34] <lafuma> okay
[01:35] <lafuma> i've got only certs/ and private/ there
[01:35] <soren> This is the webserver, right?=
[01:35] <lafuma> yes
[01:36] <lafuma> open_ssl is used for postfix and ISPconfig
[01:36] <lafuma> as far is i know
[01:37] <lafuma> as*
[01:38] <soren> So you've used ispconfig to setup the webserver?
[01:40] <lafuma> havent got that far
[01:40] <lafuma> cannot connect to ispconfig since it uses ssl
[01:40] <lafuma> well, i got to connect there the first time, right after installation
[01:41] <lafuma> right
[01:41] <lafuma> i created pam file under /private
[01:41] <lafuma> called cacert.pam
[01:41] <lafuma> with this command openssl req -x509 -newkey rsa:2048 -out cacert.pem -outform PEM -days 1825
[01:41] <lafuma> someone suggested
[01:41] <lafuma> could this fix my problem now ?
[01:42] <soren> ....
[01:42] <soren> You could have mentioned that.
[01:42] <lafuma> what ?
[01:42] <soren> That you created that key!
[01:42] <lafuma> no, i just created it
[01:42] <lafuma> not before
[01:43] <lafuma> 1 min ago :)
[01:43] <ivoks> howdy
[01:43] <lafuma> safe to try and restart the server ?
[01:43] <lafuma> and see if that works ?
[01:44] <soren> It's hard to tell. I don't know what else you've done.
[01:44] <lafuma> nothing actually
[01:45] <lafuma> only the things said in the tutorial
[01:46] <soren> Then it's probably fine.
[01:48] <lafuma> still the same
[01:48] <lafuma> damn thing
[02:07] <marekr> how can i restart the whole runlevel ?
[02:07] <kgoetz> init <some other run level>
[02:08] <marekr> hmm
[02:19] <TeTeT> is it possible to have user specific apparmor profiles? E.g. one user may use a printer from firefox, while another may not?
[06:53] <termitor> hello
[06:54] <termitor> someone cant help me for make freenx + xfce running proprely ?
[08:48] <wasabi> Hmm. We should distribute a 32 bit version of nss_winbind
[10:47] <ScottK> lamont: Unless you say don't do it very quickly I'm going to ack the feisty-backports request for Postix (runs great on my test server).
[10:48] <lamont> whatever
[10:48] <lamont> iz backports
[10:48] <ScottK> OK.
[10:49] <lamont> I use feisty-home :)
[10:49] <ScottK> Someon asked and it's as technically sound as backports get.
[10:49] <lamont> which, yes, has an autobuilder
[10:49] <ScottK> Figured.
[10:49] <lamont> I suppose I could use a PPA now
[10:50] <ScottK> Gah.
[10:50] <ScottK> Just don't put an orig.tar.gz in your PPA that Ubuntu doesn't have already.
[10:51] <ScottK> If you do, currently, Soyuz will believe it has it already, decline to fetch it, and then fall over later when it can't find it.
[10:53] <sahafeez> is there a time out on ssh connection to a ubuntu server?
[10:55] <mralphabet> sahafeez: I don't believe so, the sessions I use have been logged in for _weeks_
[10:55] <mralphabet> sahafeez: months even
[10:55] <sahafeez> well i just moved a box from gentoo to ubuntu server and my ssh's to the box drop after a bit if i am not doing anything
[10:55] <sahafeez> Connection reset by peer
[10:56] <mralphabet> ;( I don't have an answer, that hasn't been my experience
[10:57] <sahafeez> thanks.
[10:59] <ScottK> lamont: It is nice the result of all the effort that goes into making Postfix upgrades painless (both upstream and the packaging).
[10:59] <ScottK> lamont: The server in question uses a milter, a filter, and a policy server and then all just kept working after the upgrade.  No tweaks required.
[11:20] <okaratas> hello
[11:21] <sahafeez> greetings earthling.
[12:12] <Jowi> hi, I just installed a barebone server feisty system with only windowmaker and slim (simple login manager). the gtk programs seem to have different sized fonts for menus etc. I have created .Xresources and .gtkrc.mine to set the fonts, which works well on another edgy system that has got gnome, gdm and wmaker installed. but it seems like this barebones setup does not see .gtkrc.mine properly. anyone has any hints/tips/solution fo
[12:12] <Jowi> r this?
[12:15] <lamont> ScottK: thank you
[12:16] <Nafallo> Jowi: this is the server channel. maybe you want #ubuntu ?
[12:17] <Jowi> yeah, tried there. no answers. I installed the server version because that is what I mostly use this PC for (lighttpd, postfix etc) but I want a somewhat uniform UI as well ;)
[12:17] <Jowi> without the heavy gnome that is
[12:18] <Nafallo> Jowi: still think you're better of in #ubuntu then here actually. we serverpeople use CLI ;-)
[12:18] <Jowi> I can edit .Xresources with nano if that make you feel better haha
[12:19] <Jowi> nah, seriously, it was just to try to get a good tip
[12:19] <lamont> "server" == "command line" :-(
[12:19] <lamont> what's gnome?
[12:19] <Nafallo> lamont: why the sorry face? ;-)
[12:19] <lamont> Nafallo: it's called "sympathy" :-P
[12:20] <Nafallo> lamont: hmm. I think I heard of that... can't remember what it is though :-)
[12:20] <Jowi> lamont, Nafallo: no hard feelings. I knew I was probably in the wrong place but thought that, "hey, if anyone know anything about this it's probably these guys"
[12:20] <Nafallo> Jowi: sorry to disappoint you ;-)
[12:21] <Jowi> Nafallo, have a very nice weekend anyway and if I need help with LAMP I'll be back ;)
[12:21] <lamont> Jowi: yeah  -sorry to disappoint.  and yes, I know what gnome is... and I use it, even though ubuntu's primary gnome-guy has asked me why I bother several times.
[12:21] <Nafallo> :-D
[12:21] <lamont> "why do you even use gnome?" he asks. regularly.
[12:21] <Nafallo> lamont: hehe
[12:22] <Nafallo> lamont: what do you answer? :-)
[12:22] <Jowi> lamont, I can't stand gnome. haven't used it since '01 something. always seemed too.... ummm... windows for me :)
[12:22] <Jowi> cy guys. take care
[12:22] <lamont> Nafallo: the original answer was "because ubuntu == gnome"
[12:23] <lamont> mind you,I generally use xterms not gnome-terms.
[12:23] <lamont> and metacity has a keyboard focus policy that is all lamont
[12:23] <leonel> Jowi:  gnome-panel gdm metacity xserver-xorg firefox xfonts-base firefox-themes-ubuntu gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks ubuntu-artwork gnome-applets  gnome-system-tools nautilus gnome-terminal ubuntu-docs update-manager   <-- that's for a basic  gnome desktop  for a server
[12:23] <Nafallo> lamont: I love gnome-terms. and use gnome mostly so that I can have more terminals opened, and now also with tabs! ;-)
[12:24] <Jowi> ion3 is not bad for multiple xterms without using screen. too bad is changing license after the rc I heard...
[12:24] <leonel> that's what I install to servers when the  client  asks for a  graphical  "face" on the server
[12:25] <Nafallo> leonel: must be talking about ncurses ;-)
[12:25] <Jowi> leonel, yeah, that's what I thought. think it has more to do with me lacking gdm and that I use custom .xinitrc then anything else. my .gtkrc* seems to be ignored...
[12:26] <leonel> Nafallo: hahaha
[12:26] <Jowi> I will find a solution somewhere. take care all.