[12:42] <bryce> keescook: would you have a moment to upload xorg-server 12ubuntu6 at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/?
[12:43] <bryce> keescook: it fixes beta bug 137604, and has approval from slangasek
[12:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137604 in xorg-server "Black Bar Across Screen with gutsy i810" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137604
[01:17] <keescook> bryce: sure, one sec.
[01:20] <keescook> bryce: done
[07:12] <tepsipakki> bryce: aaronp said he'd release a new nv driver soon, so maybe that would fix the quadro bugs we have
[08:07] <bryce> tepsipakki: cool
[08:07] <bryce> tepsipakki: although I think it's getting too late for gutsy
[08:07] <bryce> I'd like to get bug 127008 fixed though
[08:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 127008 in xresprobe "Alternate install of Tribe-4 corrupts video display when installing packages" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127008
[08:13] <bryce> it's great seeing all the new folks getting involved in xorg stuff. 
[08:15] <tepsipakki> yep
[08:15] <tepsipakki> bryce: aaronp plans to release it today :)
[08:16] <bryce> ah, well maybe it can squeeze in
[08:16] <tepsipakki> "hopefully tonight", but yeah
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #57586 in xorg (main) "XEmacs segfaults on startup in Edgy" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57586
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #58856 in xemacs21 (universe) "xemacs segfaults on edgy powerpc system (dup-of: 57586)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58856
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #115056 in xorg (main) "kdesktop_lock doesn't work" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115056
[02:52] <ubotu> New bug: #141492 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Macbook scroll and middle/right click stopped working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141492
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #139241 in ubuntu "gutsy tribe 5 and daily 8-sep-2007 hang while starting up X on radeon 200M" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139241
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #141495 in xorg (main) "on my desktop i see only rectangles!!!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141495
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #141522 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[gutsy]  faulty Xv extension since latest update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141522
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #44708 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Dual Monitor Problems" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44708
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #141547 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati (main) "[Gutsy]  after ati driver update, only a black screen (light is on)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141547
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #141551 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ati driver lockup (mobility radeon rv350)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141551
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #141533 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Gutsy: Switching workspaces when playing XVideo overlay crashes X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141533
[09:18] <tormod> bryce, could you mirror these please? http://tormod.freeshell.org/linux/ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.7.193-1ubuntu1feisty_i386.deb and http://tormod.freeshell.org/linux/ati/xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg_6.7.193-1ubuntu1feisty_i386.deb
[09:19] <bryce> sure thing
[09:19] <mvo_> bryce: is there a new -ati driver pending before/after beta? I just confirmed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/141533 (and that worries me)
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141533 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Gutsy: Switching workspaces when playing XVideo overlay crashes X" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[09:20] <bryce> mvo, there is a new -ati out that I think tepsipakki is planning on rolling out.  Don't know if it'll be before or after beta
[09:20] <bryce> tormod: sync finished
[09:21] <tormod> bryce, thanks
[09:24] <bryce> mvo_: one sec and I'll look upstream for that one
[09:27] <tepsipakki> bryce: the latest upstream is already in :/
[09:27] <tepsipakki> +gutsy
[09:27] <bryce> tepsipakki: ah, ok
[09:44] <bryce> mvo_: this sounds sort of similar, could you test?    https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12175
[09:44] <ubotu> Freedesktop bug 12175 in Driver/Radeon "Xv crash if video window fully offscreen (rv280)" [Normal,New]  
[09:44] <tepsipakki> oh, b.fd.o works again \o/
[09:47] <mvo_> bryce: yes, that sounds like it, what is the diff for "5d044b9f74c7aa7e12f2822896fed881e2ca9d19", do you have that quickly available? if not, I will do a checkout of -ati myself to have a look
[09:47] <bryce> go for it
[09:47] <tepsipakki> http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d044b9f74c7aa7e12f2822896fed881e2ca9d19
[09:48] <mvo_> tepsipakki: thanks!
[09:48] <tepsipakki> mvo_: np. my screen cuts long urls though, so can't test that it works :)
[09:48] <bryce> it works
[09:48] <tepsipakki> cool
[09:49] <bryce> want me to roll an -ati with that patch?
[09:49] <bryce> er, 'that patch reverted'?
[09:49] <tepsipakki> go ahead, I'll continue going through the ati bugs :)
[09:49] <bryce> ok
[09:49] <tepsipakki> although the tv is on, and distracts me a bit
[09:50] <mvo_> bryce: its late here, but I want to test it to make sure that it does not break video playback with compiz
[09:53] <bryce> ok building; will have .deb up in a few minutes
[10:02] <bryce> bah
[10:07] <bryce> bdmurray: so with the latest launchpad change, should we expect old Incomplete bugs to suddenly switch to Invalid?
[10:11] <bryce> mvo, debs are up:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/
[10:23] <tepsipakki> bryce: wow, seems to be so :)
[10:24] <tepsipakki> that inactive bugs are cleaned out 
[10:24] <bdmurray> bryce: I'm not sure if a bunch will just change or if it'll be 60 days from now
[10:25] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/testing_graphs/xorg.html
[10:26] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/graphs/ -- 2000 bugs just died
[10:26] <bryce> poor poor bugs
[10:33] <bdmurray> zomg
[10:50] <mvo> bryce: reverting the commit for ati fixes the problem for me
[10:54] <bryce> mvo, wow, that was good luck
[10:54] <mvo> indeed :)
[10:54] <mvo> and video playback still works
[10:55] <bryce> ok I'll go ahead and put this in for inclusion
[10:55] <mvo> thanks
[10:55] <bryce> sleep well :-)
[10:59] <mvo> soon, I need to do some more work for the beta first :/
[11:04] <tepsipakki> that ati/xv crash is debian bug 441902
[11:04] <ubotu> Debian bug 441902 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "xserver-xorg-video-ati: 6.7.192-1~7.2 crashes xserver with xv video playback on compiz" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/441902
[11:09] <tepsipakki> there was another proposal for the fix
[11:14] <bryce> tepsipakki: yeah this patch looks like it's just papering over some other bug
[11:15] <tepsipakki> I'll reply to the debian bug, hopefully alex will figure it out eventually :)
[11:15] <tepsipakki> oh, you asked about it on #x-d already :)
[11:19] <bryce> tepsipakki: yup, figure he already knows, but more info can't hurt
[11:20] <bryce> heya rawler
[11:20] <rawler> bryce: hello.. :)
[11:21] <tepsipakki> bryce: nv 2.1.4 just released
[11:21] <bryce> tepsipakki: yup, saw the announce :-)
[11:22] <bryce> tepsipakki: sounds pretty minor though
[11:22] <bryce> the LVDS fix is probably worthwhile, and of course new products are always good
[11:23] <jcristau> i think it's just the product names
[11:24] <rawler> bryce: just a quick question; how exactly does launchpad manage bug status?
[11:24] <tormod> the new nv would fix bug 133385 the right way
[11:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133385 in discover-data "[gutsy]  "nv" is not new enough to support my chipset (Quadro FX 570M), but is detected as the most appropriate display driver during installation" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133385
[11:25] <bryce> rawler: for bugs local to launchpad (i.e. ubuntu bugs), bug status is handled manually by folks like us
[11:25] <tepsipakki> tormod: that's what I had thought too :)
[11:25] <rawler> bryce: looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/, bug 19890 has status new, but looking at the bug itself it seems to have been marked invalid a long time ago?
[11:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 19890 in freeglut "conquest-gl: fail to start (Assertion `window->Window.VisualInfo != ((void *)0)' failed.)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/19890
[11:25] <bryce> rawler: however there are some various misc. scripts which also update bug statuses
[11:25] <tepsipakki> rawler: the ubuntu part yes
[11:25] <bryce> ah
[11:26] <bryce> rawler: one of the unique things about LP is that it can track state in external bug trackers
[11:26] <bryce> or in multiple products
[11:26] <bryce> which is handy for hooking the bug to upstream bugs
[11:26] <rawler> ok, so it always displays the "worst-case" status in listings?
[11:27] <bryce> no, technically it would display both
[11:27] <bryce> however "Invalid", "Fix Released" are typically hidden in most displays
[11:27] <rawler> bryce: yeah, in the bug itself, but not in https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/
[11:28] <rawler> bryce: or is there a better way to get a list of open bugs related to ubuntu-x-swat?
[11:29] <bryce> rawler: that listing is for bugs assigned/related to x-swat, but typically we haven't been bothering assigning bugs to x-swat, so this list probably isn't the best place to look
[11:29] <bryce> I typically just select one of the X products (like xorg, xorg-server, or a driver) and look for bugs that way
[11:29] <bryce> I like to personally subscribe to a variety of bugs that look interesting to me, and then check back on them
[11:30] <tepsipakki> yeah, "show package report"
[11:30] <bryce> from my subscribed bugs, I've picked a dozen to subscribe to that I want to work on closely
[11:30] <bryce> (no more than a dozen though, else it'd get overwhelming)
[11:31] <rawler> *ahh* I see.. will go about it that way, in that case.. :)
[11:31] <bryce> also, there is a bot on this channel that reports newly reported/updated bugs in all products; sometimes those are of interest
[11:32] <rawler> bryce: allright.. will try to hang here more then.. :)
[11:32] <bryce> cool :-)
[11:33] <bryce> rawler: what sorts of things are you most interested in?  you mentioned -nvidia yesterday iirc?
[11:35] <rawler> bryce: well, I'm not particulary focused on any specific area.. I heard you needed help, so I'm mostly looking for something to do.. :)
[11:35] <bryce> nice, well welcome :-)
[11:36] <rawler> I usually try to steer clear of hardware and device-driver-specific things, and user-interfaces (unless it's about testing out new concepts for user interfaces), but anything in between goes... :)
[11:36] <rawler> thanks, I feel pretty welcome.. :)
[11:38] <rawler> I'm usually more of a hacker than a QA-guy/forum-sweeper, so I usually try to find bugs that I can reproduce and fix, or feature-requests that I can implement..
[11:40] <bryce> that'll be a huge help; there's tons of bugs that fit those criteria
[11:41] <rawler> well.. most of them seems to not match my hardware and/or be hard to reproduce, and be driver-related.. so not really my league.. :)
[11:42] <bryce> yup, I have that trouble too
[11:42] <jcristau> those most often need to be reported upstream
[11:43] <bryce> fortunately, for bugs that affect multiple people, it's generally not too hard to find a community member who'll be willing to test out .debs
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #91006 in compiz (main) "Enabled Desktop Effects makes Gnome Terminal unusable (dup-of: 89369)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91006
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #97575 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager doesn't list my nvidia GeForce Go 7400 (dup-of: 93209)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97575
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #98542 in ubuntu "starting "wine" or "google earth" crashes the x-server after today's update (dup-of: 96430)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98542
[11:47] <ubotu> New bug: #34555 in xorg (main) "Bad display configuration after install (dup-of: 42731)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/34555
[11:47] <ubotu> New bug: #35508 in xorg (main) "1366x768 screen resolution not supported (dup-of: 24927)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35508
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #32219 in xorg (main) "Edubuntu dapper live flight4: only does 640x480 resolution (dup-of: 36306)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32219
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #32401 in totem "totem won't start with totem-xine engine (dup-of: 35229)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32401
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #35944 in xorg (main) "Laptop with integrated SIS gfx and ATI module fails to detect the active card (dup-of: 42731)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35944
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #40783 in xorg (main) "[Dapper]  bad resolution for SONY CPD-210EST screen (dup-of: 42731)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40783
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #40839 in xorg (main) "Dapper Beta LiveCD install doesn't setup monitors/resolutions right (dup-of: 42731)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40839
[11:49] <ubotu> New bug: #42448 in xorg (main) "DisplaySize not set on Dell Inspiron 8200 (dapper beta) (dup-of: 30743)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/42448
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #47759 in update-manager (main) "upgrade from breezy to dapper rc1 fails (dup-of: 41314)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47759
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #50539 in xorg (main) "Thinkpad x60 xorg.conf contains strange entries for Wacom InputDevice (Stylus) (dup-of: 42553)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50539
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #50737 in totem (main) "totem-xine crashes with 'BadAlloc' when run manually (dup-of: 35229)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50737
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #52069 in update-manager (main) "update-manager kills entire X session (dup-of: 49834)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/52069
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #54307 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "driver does not work with xserver-xorg-core 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu1 (dup-of: 54290)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54307
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #54565 in xorg (main) "no direct rendering on Dell laptop using Edgy and i810 driver (dup-of: 54858)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54565
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #65909 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Flash bug (dup-of: 62988)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65909
[11:54] <ubotu> New bug: #81324 in cryptsetup (main) "Problem with cryptsetup password during boot (dup-of: 82084)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81324
[11:54] <ubotu> New bug: #96039 in totem (main) "Regression in quicktime playback (dup-of: 73102)" [Low,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96039
[11:54] <ubotu> New bug: #107645 in f-spot (main) "feisty f-spot hangs (dup-of: 89467)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107645
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #104499 in f-spot (main) "PC Crash when I import data into f-spot (dup-of: 89467)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104499
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #48164 in xorg (main) "Video corruption at installation of xserver-xorg" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/48164
[12:01] <bdmurray> what happened here?
[12:02] <bdmurray> Did ubotu go crazy?
[12:02] <tepsipakki> no, they really were closed by lp janitor :)
[12:02] <tormod> was that all those incomplete bugs going invalid?
[12:02] <tepsipakki> yep
[12:23] <bdmurray> bryce: I'm looking at the daily for today and my display is 1024x768 instead of 1280x800(?)
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #57283 in xorg-server (main) "latest xserver fails (dup-of: 57153)" [Low,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57283
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #56277 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "xserver-xorg: FATAL: fglX11CMMFreeSurface: firegl_FreeBuffer() failed!" [Low,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56277
[12:27] <ubotu> New bug: #55224 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "iMac 1.9Ghz: X fails to load under Edgy (dup-of: 23445)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/55224