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randal_do I need to set something in order for it to be found??12:50
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dappermuisardchoille, weired since they both use libparted12:50
dappermuisrandal_, for what to be found?12:50
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ardchoilledappermuis: True, but not all front end gui';s process information the same way12:50
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randal_my website - Apache2 server installed - etc .... and restart claims [ok] 12:51
ardchoillebjwebb: man parted12:51
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dappermuisrandal_, okay - and now what do you want to do?12:51
randal_have other people actually be able to get to it... :D12:51
dappermuisrandal_, point your browser to 127.0.0.1 or localhost to see your default apache page12:51
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bjwebbahhh12:52
bjwebbardchoille: i used parteds inbuilt help actually12:52
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bjwebbthe drives are numbered differently in parted12:52
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ardchoillebjwebb: Even better :)12:52
contrast83Greets, everyone...12:52
ardchoillehi contrast8312:52
randal_The requested URL / was not found on this server.12:53
randal_Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 8012:53
bjwebbardchoille: yeah, parted has got them right, and i can see why qtparted mucked up12:53
ardchoillebjwebb: :)12:53
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contrast83I've got a binary, a .desktop file and an icon for a program which I want to put into a checkinstall package. Could someone point me in the direction where I could find out how to set up a makefile that'll allow me to do this?12:53
dappermuisrandal_, you probably need to configure your www path or something12:53
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dappermuis!apache | randal_12:53
uboturandal_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:54
dappermuis!httpd | randal_12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about httpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:54
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randal_dappermuis oh....12:54
randal_more reading I guess - :D - I'll make it work soon I hope...12:54
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randal_and it's a fairly 'basic' site - just a 'file server' kind of think...12:55
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=== bjwebb deleted the problem partition and now qtparted is fine
bjwebbardchoille: thanks12:56
ardchoillebjwebb: yw12:57
bjwebbhmm qtparted won't let me resize12:58
bjwebbthe partitions either side of my free space12:59
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bjwebbits not doing ext3 :O12:59
ardchoillebjwebb: I hope you are backing up files before deleting partitions01:00
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bjwebbardchoille: erm01:00
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dappermuisbjwebb, that's what ardchoille and i were just talking about01:00
bjwebbi don't have that many important files01:00
ardchoilleAnd are you trying to resize a partition that is currently mounted?01:00
bjwebbardchoille: no01:01
dappermuisardchoille, the last time i check qtparted wasn't able to resize ext3 at all01:01
bjwebbardchoille: it won't let me format as ext301:01
ardchoilledappermuis: You're kidding01:01
bjwebbdappermuis: hmmm :S01:01
bjwebbim sure it could at least create a ext3 partition01:01
dappermuisardchoille, serious - last time i tried was about 2 weeks ago, using the qtparted on the kubuntu live cd01:01
ardchoilleI have used qtparted to create/delete partitions, but never to resize01:02
ardchoilleFrom what I've seen, the qtparted app on the live cd sucks01:02
bjwebbhmm01:02
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bjwebbill use my gparted cd to do it01:03
frb-workhowdy01:03
contrast83what up01:03
frb-workdoes kubuntu 7.10 have the ralink wireless driver on the install media?01:03
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smaxhi01:04
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frb-worksorry, 7.0401:04
smaxwhats the syntax to play a dvd from the bash prompt01:04
frb-workmy brain hurts01:04
nosrednaekimsmax: using what player?01:04
ardchoillesmax: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?01:05
smaxmplayer i figured it out. thanx folks01:06
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frb-workI can't seem to find teh HCL01:07
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izzybwhat package does dig come in?01:07
izzybthe domain tool01:07
frb-workbindutils or something01:08
izzybthanks01:08
frb-workI use so many linux flavors I forget the names01:08
izzybhmm, not found :(01:08
stdin!find dig01:08
ubotuFound: digikam, digikamimageplugins, libdigest-hmac-perl, libdigest-sha1-perl, perl (and 24 others)01:08
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stdinugg01:09
frb-work!find bind01:09
ubotuFound: authbind, beryl-settings-bindings, bibindex, bind, bind-dev (and 20 others)01:09
stdindnsutils: /usr/bin/dig01:09
frb-workoh, see, they make it confusing :P01:09
izzyb:)01:09
izzybthanks01:09
ardchoillestdin: How do I find the package that a certain app was in?01:10
ardchoilleI thought it was dpkg -L app but that isn't it01:10
stdindpkg -S filename01:10
ardchoilleAh, it's -S, thanks stdin01:10
stdin-L lists file in a package01:10
ardchoilleYeah01:10
stdin-L = list, -S = search :)01:10
frb-workI'm so confused01:10
stdinand I used "dpkg -S bin/dig" to narrow it down a bit01:11
frb-workhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsEdimax says my card doesn't work out of the box01:11
frb-workhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500 says the driver is included01:11
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stdinone may be out of date01:11
ardchoillestdin: Yeah, just saw why you had to narrow it down :)01:11
stdincould have done this too:01:12
stdin!find bin/dig01:12
ubotuFile bin/dig found in dnsutils01:12
stdin:)01:12
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ardchoillehehe01:12
ardchoilleGotta love the bot01:12
frb-workcan anyone confirm the existance of rt2500.ko on kubuntu's DVD somewhere?01:12
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nosrednaekimI think there is a package manifest on the web somewhere01:13
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ardchoillefrb-work: I found this:  linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko01:16
ardchoilleBut that's all I could find.01:16
frb-workthat should be enough01:16
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ardchoillefrb-work: But which kernel is on the live cd? That seems to be for 2.6.20-1601:17
frb-workI don't know off hand01:17
stdinthe cd/dvd will have -15, but should have the same modules01:17
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ardchoilleAh, ok01:17
stdinjust FYI, that module will be put in the linux-ubuntu-modules-* package in gutsy, and split to rt2500pci.ko and rt2500usb.ko :)01:18
stdinbut you probably don't care about that01:18
ardchoillefrb-work: btw, I found that with "dpkg -S rt2500.ko" that stdinjust taught me :)01:18
frb-workI don't have kubuntu installed, never have01:19
stdin!find rt2500.ko01:19
ubotuFile rt2500.ko found in linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron01:19
frb-workas long as teh driver exists that supports my new card (and wow, it's OSS), I can do the rest though, I'm not a linux newb, just ubuntu01:19
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frb-workoh, I was a debian maintainer long ago, so it's not completely new either :P01:19
stdinthe !find command is an alias for the bot to do a dpkg -S on it's database, saves my CUP time01:20
ardchoillestdin: That's good to know01:20
lewixwhat do you use to read mp301:20
nosrednaekimsweet!01:20
lewixvlc seems to freeze al lthe time01:20
nosrednaekimlewix: I useamarok01:20
frb-workI like amarok with the xine engine01:20
nosrednaekimlewix: you just need libxine-extracodecs01:21
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ardchoillelewix: I use xmms to play mp3's, it plays them out of the box.. it has it's own mp3 codec01:21
stdinvlc uses libmad iirc01:21
lewixardchoille, what do you mean outside the box01:21
ardchoillelewix: I mean install xmms and it can play mp3's without you having to install a codec01:21
stdinlewix: not "outside the box" "out of the box" means without any setup. like when you take a product "out of it's box" that it comes in01:22
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ardchoilleI love the repos. Since Warty came out, I haven't had to compile a thing.. and I think I've manually use dpkg twice.01:25
kblinhi folks01:26
ardchoillehi kblin01:26
lewixstdin, thanks, ardchoille the same thing happened as in vlc01:26
lewixwith xmms01:26
kblinI somehow managed to bork my system today.. this morning, sound was still working, now it's shot01:26
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ardchoillevlc sounds pretty nice01:27
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kblinalso knetworkmanager doesn't automatically connect to the wireless anymore, even though the key is in kwallet01:27
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lewixardchoille, lol waht do you mean....anyway how do I fix it01:28
ardchoillelewix: How do you ifx what?01:28
kblinI wouldn't mind the network manager too much, but sound being broken really annoys me01:29
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lewixardchoille, it keeps on freezing..vlc.xmms when I play mp3s01:29
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kblinnot even cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp gives me sound01:32
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lewixhuh kblin01:32
kblinI've of course checked and double-checked the sound is not muted01:33
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kblinI don't think I updated anything01:34
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kblinand I'm running out of ideas what the problem could be01:34
kblinI tried booting into an older kernel, that didn't fix it01:34
kblinI've created a new user and tried to log in as that user, but that wasn't it, either01:35
nosrednaekimkblin: does it work at all?01:35
ardchoillelewix: I don't know. I've never had trouble with xmms01:35
nosrednaekimoh... NM... sound01:35
kblinnosrednaekim: being my paranoid little self, I booted into windows to check if sound worked there.. just fine01:36
nosrednaekimheh.. whats the sound chip?01:36
ardchoilleYes, lots of things work in windows.. viruses.. trojans.. worms..01:36
kblinIntel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)01:37
kblinuses the snd_intel8x0 driver01:37
lewixardchoille, obviously hte problem is somewhere else01:38
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ardchoilleHow do I tell apt-get upgrade to upgrade everything except a certain app?01:39
BluesKajardchoille, there is a sound prob with (k)ubuntu due to the scattered apps that require integration (alsa kmix arts) so audio setup isn't as easy as it could be ...supposed to be fixed in Gutsy ...we hope01:39
LjL!pinning | ardchoille01:39
ubotuardchoille: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto01:39
ardchoillePinning? Ah, thanks LjL01:40
LjLardchoille: trickier than you might think, though01:41
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nosrednaekimkblin: hmm.... did you check that all the channels were enabled?01:41
winbondhow do i get iptables to use a blacklist?01:41
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kblinnosrednaekim: master is at 100%, pcm is at 81%, both aren't muted01:42
LjLardchoille: you could always just dist-upgrade and then downgrade a single package using  apt-get install package=version-number , but that won't work if it has dependencies that were also updated, and you'll have to repeat it after each dist-upgrade01:42
nosrednaekimkblin: right click on the mixer and select "channels" make sure they are all displayed.01:42
kblinI was using alsamixer, but whatever01:43
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nosrednaekimkblin: ah ok.... well, put ALL channels to max.01:43
ardchoilleLjL: I think I'll try building from sources first, but thanks for the info.01:44
kblinno difference01:45
nosrednaekimkblin: and all are unmuted>?01:45
kblinnosrednaekim: I'm not muted on the hardware, and software claims I'm not muted either01:45
nosrednaekimyou sure?01:46
contrast83ardchoille: i just saw what you're trying to do, there's an easier way than that01:46
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kblinyes, shiny green lights in kmix, no MM in alsamixer, tpb shows a full bar for the hardware side of things01:47
contrast83ardchoille: sudo for i in <package-name>; do echo $i hold | dpkg --set-selections; done01:47
BluesKajnosrednaekim, kblin ..70% max is plenty for the vol ctrls , otherewise you'll overdrive the speaker amp input into distortion01:47
ardchoillecontrast83: I have kxdocker 0.35 installed on a test machine and sudo apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade it to a more recent version that's in the repos. But the recent version is broken.01:48
kblinBluesKaj: well, this is for getting any output for now.. I'd be happy with static for a start01:48
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: not if its not even coming ou ;)01:48
kblinlet me check if the sound is somehow disabled in the bios01:49
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contrast83ardchoille: you could also just do "sudo aptitude hold kxdocker" and start using aptitude instead of apt-get01:49
BluesKajkblin, I hate to state the obvious here but have you done this ? : k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply01:49
kblinyeah01:49
kblinbeen there01:49
contrast83ardchoille: but that won't keep it from being upgraded by adept01:50
BluesKajok, just making sure01:50
nosrednaekimkblin: did it ever work?01:50
ardchoillecontrast83: Aptitude? Not a bad idea. I don't use adept.01:50
kblinthis morning, it worked just fine01:50
BluesKajwhat sound card , kblin ?01:50
contrast83ardchoille: synaptic? or no gui's at all?01:50
kblinBluesKaj: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)01:51
kblinthis is a thinkpad r5201:51
nosrednaekimkblin: just this morning? did you do an upgrade?01:51
kblinnever had problems with the hardware before01:51
nosrednaekimor update>01:51
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kblinnot that I'm aware of.. and I'm the only user01:51
ardchoillecontrast83: I don't like gui's that are front ends when the back end is much faster01:52
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kblinI did a suspend to disk and when I started it wasn't working for sure..01:52
kblinI had it muted for a while before that, so I can't say if it worked the moment before the suspend01:52
nosrednaekimkblin: turn off your computer... and pull out the battery.01:52
orinWhat's the difference between the default provided Kontact package and Korganizer? Which one should I use if I want to keep track of appointments and such?01:52
contrast83ardchoille: i'm the same way... but i do like a frontend for certain things, e.g., browsing through +20k packages. :-)01:52
kblinnosrednaekim: what's that supposed to do?01:53
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nosrednaekimkblin: reset all the hardware stuff... thats how I fix my wifi when it craps out01:53
contrast83i believe aptitude's ncurses interface is supposed to be suitable for that though. getting familiar with that is on my to-do list atm01:53
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kblinnosrednaekim: it was still working on windows when I gave that a try between trying an older kernel and getting back to current01:53
nosrednaekimoh..hmm ok01:54
kblinI can try again though. bbiaf01:54
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contrast83orin: i thought kontact depended on korganizer?01:54
orinOkay.01:55
contrast83lol01:55
contrast83Okay.01:55
Jucatoone very satisfied customer :)01:56
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contrast83hehe01:58
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kblinnosrednaekim, ok, so I'm sure it works on windows01:58
nosrednaekimok01:59
nosrednaekimJucato: customer of what?01:59
kblinwhich pretty much convinces me that it's a software issue01:59
nosrednaekimkblin: could be.... try booting a livecd?01:59
Jucatonosrednaekim: regarding orin (scroll up a bit)01:59
kblinbut I'm really suprised that it happened without any update01:59
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kblinhm, I need to see if I can find one02:00
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kblinmy line's a bit thin for getting an iso02:00
ardchoilleWhat day is Gutsy to be released next month?02:00
kcgdoes anyone know the diff. between superkaramba and karamba?02:01
Jucatosuperkaramba is the current incarnation of karamba. karamba is deprecated (but the old themes still work)02:01
Jucatoardchoille: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule02:01
nosrednaekimardchoille: 26 comes off the top of my head..02:02
ardchoillesuperkaramba is karamba that has already changed clothes in a phone booth?02:02
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JucatoOct 1802:02
dasKreechJucato: didn't you just go to bed?02:02
ardchoilleJucato, nosrednaekim: thanks02:02
JucatodasKreech: 5 hours ago02:02
nosrednaekimah...I was wrong :)02:02
kcgthx for the explanation02:02
Jucatonosrednaekim: you were a bit right. it's Week 26 of the development schedule :)02:03
nosrednaekimActually.... that was KDE4's release date ;)02:03
nosrednaekimI get confused like that..02:03
Jucato:)02:03
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kblinack02:06
kblindammit02:06
kblinnow, the third time I reboot into linux today, everything's working02:06
kblineven networkmanager connects like it should02:07
Zabulusanyone know anything about usb mice freezing after a couple minutes in 7.04?02:07
kblinwhat kind of linux is this, allowing me to fix problems by rebooting a couple of times? ;)02:07
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nosrednaekimwow..02:08
nosrednaekimkblin: did you try pulling out the battery?02:08
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nosrednaekimZabulus: never seen it02:08
nosrednaekimZabulus: maybe there is a bug though.02:08
Zabuluswell, ive looked around, people mention it in several places, but ive been unable to find a suitable fix02:09
kblinnosrednaekim: nope. just booted into windows, shut that down again, and when booting again, as soon as the kernel was up, I had a feedback beep that I could mute just fast enough to wake my significant other anyway ;)02:09
nosrednaekimwow... :)02:10
nosrednaekimdunno what to say..02:11
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dasKreechBluesKaj: Which is?02:11
nosrednaekimlucky you :)02:11
BluesKajmy significant other02:11
dasKreechah right :)02:11
dasKreechI don't have a girlfriend02:11
nosrednaekimpretty safe I think..02:11
dasKreechI just know a girl who would be real angry if she heard me say that02:12
BluesKajpersonally I think it's too PC for my taste , but ...to each his/her own I guess02:12
Zabuluswell, im gonna leave this open, so if anyone finds out how to fix the mouse problem, just message me, i should get it eventually02:12
dasKreechBluesKaj: Ambiguity is in02:12
dasKreechAsk those who took out home loans!02:12
BluesKajconsumers!02:13
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BluesKajwe're nothing but revenue generators02:13
kblinhehe02:13
MojoPikonHi everybody =D02:14
kblinbe darned, even the dmesg output is identical, apart from the timestamp02:14
nosrednaekimheh.... and pretty dumb ones at that02:14
BluesKajkblin, NM me I'm just old and grumpy and like to rant every so often02:14
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nosrednaekimhello MojoPikon02:15
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kblinBluesKaj: it's two in the morning, I expect everybody has the right to be grumpy at that time of day :)02:15
dasKreechkblin: Leave Grandpa alone!!02:15
ardchoillelol02:16
kblinanyway, thanks for the help everyone..02:16
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nosrednaekimkblin: NP02:17
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SalsaDoomHi fellas. Is there any documentation on how to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to something else? I can only find docs for Ubuntu, nothing Kubuntu specific02:21
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nosrednaekimSalsaDoom: the command line version of the instructions are exactly the same02:22
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SalsaDoomWell, it seems to be that the command line version very clearly not recomended02:22
nosrednaekimSalsaDoom: ah..02:22
nosrednaekimhmm02:23
MojoPikonsalsadoom: vim /etc/apt/sources.list <enter>  <esc> :1,$s/edgy/feisty <enter> <esc> :wq <enter>  apt-get dist-upgrade <enter> may be the way =D02:23
Mr_Sonomai've used it in the past02:23
MojoPikon(oh, I forgot "apt-get update" before apt-get dist-upgrade, sorry) ^^02:23
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SalsaDoomErhm, thats too bad.02:24
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MojoPikonwhy? I did it 10 minutes ago on my iBook... it just works =D02:24
SalsaDoomWell, I believe that it worked for you, but I'm doing this remotely and when its clearly labeled that it will break things, I'm inclined to believe you are a lucky person and that I probably would not be02:26
ardchoilleMojoPikon: It may work for you, but it may break everything for others. I did that and both times (diff releases) it broke almost everything.02:26
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ardchoilleSalsaDoom: Someone noted that in order for it to work right, you have to do a fresh install, then before anything else, do the upgrade.02:28
dasKreechSalsaDoom: third party repos?02:28
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contrast83!worksforme02:29
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/02:29
SalsaDoomardchoille, hmmm, I think I'll just play it safe ;P02:30
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dasKreechSalsaDoom: third party repos?02:30
SalsaDoomdasKreech, perhaps that'll work just as well. Really the computer works fine, 6.06 isn't really old or bad in any way. Its just that its my moms computer, and shes got some hardware that isn't supported on 6.06.02:30
SalsaDoomWell, a little webcam thingy02:30
dasKreechSalsaDoom: did You try to install the webcam ?02:31
SalsaDoomIf the upgrade path was simple, then that would have done the job fine, but since its not your probably on the money when you suggest a 3rd party repo.02:31
SalsaDoomdasKreech, of course ;)02:31
SalsaDoomIts just not supported by 6.06's old kernel version02:31
dasKreechAh02:31
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ardchoilleSalsaDoom: Laso, 6.06 is an LTS release.. supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server.02:32
dasKreechardchoille: Pointless if it doesn't work02:32
ardchoilleTrue02:32
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Doctor_Nick:Q02:34
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dasKreechhydrogen: Where is alfred?02:34
hydrogenNew York!02:35
dasKreechhydrogen: Ah Ok02:36
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swanfldoes anyone here run kubuntu through vmware?02:41
dasKreechswanfl: I wanna02:41
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swanflyou wanna?02:41
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dasKreechYup02:44
=== Biovore runs kubuntu on vmware all the time
swanflso you don't right now? oh too bad02:44
swanflI need help with vmware tools02:44
BiovoreI don't ussualy mess with vmware tools..02:44
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Biovoredosn't work as nice as it does on windows..02:45
swanflright, but I need to be able ot switch between the guest and the host02:45
swanflespecially when copying from one and pasting to the other02:46
Biovorehttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-edgy-eft/02:46
BiovoreThat for edgy.. but I think the same procedure still applies02:46
BiovoreI havn't tried the vmware tools thing for pasting..02:46
Biovorethe guest resize to fit window thing does work.. but you have to manualy start the thing that does it..02:47
swanflah02:47
ardchoilleWhat is it? Gutsy ? and ? Herron?02:47
swanflHerron?02:47
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ardchoilleHappy Herron?02:47
swanflI'm working on feisty02:47
BiovoreHerron is the releasy after gusty02:47
Biovorehasn't started development yet..02:47
ardchoilleRight02:48
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swanflhey there's another question, how do I upgrade to gutsy from feisty02:48
ardchoilleGutsy Gibbon?02:48
Biovorethere will be help on that soon..02:48
Biovoregusty is still getting finalized02:48
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swanflok cool02:50
swanflhow do I upgrade to kde 3.5.7?02:50
Biovorecompile it..02:51
dasKreech!info libxine-extracodecs02:51
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB02:51
dasKreech!info libxine-extracodecs gutsy02:51
swanflcompile it?02:51
Biovoreas download the source.. and build it..02:51
swanflthere is nothing in the repositories?02:51
Biovorenope02:51
swanflouch02:51
Biovorenot for feisty02:51
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Biovorenot much has changed anyway02:52
dasKreech!info libxine-extracodecs gutsy02:52
swanflI suppose that's true02:52
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dasKreech!ping02:52
ubotupong02:52
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dasKreech!info libxine-extracodecs gutsy02:52
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Biovoreits there02:52
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dasKreechBiovore: libxine-extra ?02:59
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JucatoBiovore: KDE 3.5.7 for Feisty? compile it?03:01
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Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php03:02
Jucatowhen swanfl comes back, can someone please point him to that link ^^^03:02
Biovoreah.. I see 3rd parity repos03:02
Jucatoer... kubuntu.org is not 3rd party03:02
dasKreechJucato: am I nuts or did libxine Disappear?03:02
Jucato(but yeah you put it in the 3rd party tab...)03:02
Biovorewell have to add it..03:02
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Jucato!info libxine1-ffmpeg gutsy | dasKreech03:03
ubotudaskreech: libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB03:03
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Biovorelol03:03
Jucatoyes, extracodecs is gone03:04
Biovoreit doesn't like you03:04
dasKreechJucato: wasn't it a meta package?03:04
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Jucatosort of. it just installed libxine1-ffmpeg03:04
ardchoilleJucato: does ffmpeg replace extracodecs?03:04
Jucatoit's deprecated now in favor of kubuntu-restricted-extras03:04
Jucatoardchoille: yes03:04
ardchoilleok03:05
dasKreechJucato: No it didn't it installed libmad and One other03:05
Mr_Sonomathe restricted extras packages are gone in gutsy?03:05
JucatoMr_Sonoma: no03:05
JucatodasKreech: what didn't install libmad?03:06
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dasKreechJucato: It didn't just install ffmpegg it installed libmad as well as one other I think03:07
dasKreechI just did it this morning03:07
JucatodasKreech: um... look at the depends of libxine1-ffmpeg03:07
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dasKreechJucato: ah :) Of course :)03:08
dasKreechHow come it moved to universe? the license on MP3 changed?03:09
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dasKreech!find freecol03:10
ubotuPackage/file freecol does not exist in feisty03:10
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dasKreechHmm03:10
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dasKreechJucato: thanks Glad it's still just one easy file instead of the alphabet soup for gstreamer :)03:10
ardchoillelol @ alphabet soup03:11
Jucatowell ubuntu users have one easy file now too03:11
dasKreechBout time03:11
Jucatoubuntu-restricted-extras03:11
Jucato:P03:11
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newsense07i installed the borealis sound theme and it works fine for me but my girlfriend wants it too, how do i set it as her default kde sound theme ?03:16
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_stderrhola, tengo un problema, acabo de instalar kubuntu feisty x86_64, y se me cuelga de ves en cuando, pero mal, alguna solucion, ya intente con acpi=off, pero ni me arranca :S03:19
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Jucato!es | _stderr03:19
ubotu_stderr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:19
_stderrubotu: ups sorry!03:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ups sorry! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:19
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dasKreechJucato: that kubunut-restricted-extras is really kinda extra03:21
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dasKreech!info freeciv03:24
ubotuPackage freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:24
dasKreech!info freeciv-data03:24
ubotufreeciv-data: Civilization turn based strategy game (game data). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 3819 kB, installed size 11320 kB03:24
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droachi cant get file sharing to work in feisty fawn03:30
slackerndasKreech: i think freeciv and freeciv-client are virtual packages or what they are called03:30
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BluesKajdasKreech, what extras are in it ...don't see anything that most media stuff already needs or has03:30
slackern!info freeciv-client-gtk03:31
ubotufreeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB03:31
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BluesKaj!info kubuntu-restricted-extras03:32
ubotuPackage kubuntu-restricted-extras does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:32
JucatoBluesKaj: it's only in gutsy03:32
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Jucatoit installs flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin, libxine1-ffmpeg, libdvdread3, libk3b2-mp3, liblame0, unrar, libtunepimp5-mp303:32
BluesKajok, already looked ant the tar file contents03:32
Jucatothe what? O.o03:33
BluesKajhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/k/kubuntu-restricted-extras/03:33
JucatoBluesKaj: have you tried http://packages.ubuntu.com ?03:34
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Jucatoquite very useful. like apt-cache and apt-file in one03:34
Jucatokubuntu-restricted-extras is just a metapackage, so it doesn't really contain much itself03:35
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rocketsI'm installing Kubuntu on top of a normal ubuntu install but i dont want to replace the non-kde look and feel, e.g. gdm and the regular ubuntu usplash theme03:36
rocketsi already unmarked those in synaptic03:36
rocketsanything im missing?03:36
dasKreechKDE?03:38
rocketsdasKreech, nono03:38
rocketsim saying03:38
rocketsdid i miss UNMARKING anything03:38
rocketsi already marked kubuntu-desktop03:38
rocketsso that marked off tons of stuff to install03:39
dasKreechrockets: I'm saying that you are missing out on KDE. Go man! install!!!03:39
dasKreechLike a rocket!!03:39
rocketsoh03:39
rocketslol03:39
BluesKajJucato, dunno if I'm gonna go Gutsy , from what i see so far the ati drivers won't do DRI and 3D for apps like google earth , so I'm gonna wait til I hear about successful setups with my kind of hardware .03:40
rocketsBluesKaj, ATI driver does DRI, it doesnt do composite03:40
rocketscomposite is coming next month03:41
BluesKajno kidding :)03:41
BluesKajgot it "0" in the xorg file03:41
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BluesKajrockets, I'm using a modded and patched fglrx driver for lower end ati onboard graphics , which is sufficient for my needs03:52
rocketsBluesKaj, huh how is that possible, its not open source, how is it modifie03:53
rocketsmodified*03:53
BluesKajrockets, check this site http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty03:54
rocketsi alrweird.03:55
rocketsweird*03:55
rocketswell if it works it works03:55
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BluesKajquite a few ppl with the X200M up to 1400 Radeon graphics have used that tutorial successfully03:56
Doctor_Nick:E03:57
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BluesKajrockets , i've even got it working in conjunction with my TV Wonder Pro capture card and tvtime .03:58
rocketsocol03:58
rocketscool*03:58
rocketsso you have the .38 driver?03:58
rocketsBecause I can't reccomend the .41 driver enough. IT works great even on unsupported cards03:59
rocketsI have it on my X1150M03:59
rocketsa laptop integrated card03:59
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rocketsread: peice of junk03:59
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BluesKajrockets, no mine is the .35.504:00
rocketsok04:00
BluesKajis the .41 the new ati offering that was in the news a few weeks back ?04:01
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rocketsBluesKaj, yes, the one with the huge performance boosts04:01
rocketsit works so amazingly compared to the older fglrx04:02
rocketsannnnnd the catalyst control center isnt useless anymore04:02
BluesKajoh, din't know it was available already04:02
rocketsyup04:02
BluesKajati site?04:02
rocketsBluesKaj, yeah but at the driver download site, say that you have an HD series card04:02
rocketsotherwise you can only download the older one04:02
rockets.42 supports all cards officially04:03
BluesKajoh really ?04:03
rockets.41 doesnt04:03
rockets.42 is out next month04:03
BluesKajok, maybe I'll wait til then ...works in gutsy I assume ?04:03
rocketsim sure it does.04:03
rocketsoh actually04:03
eddyspagettyhi, how can i add with the "ls" command the content of subfolders?04:03
rocketsyou never know, it might have been released after the feature freeze04:04
NickPrestaeddyspagetty, `ls -R`04:04
rocketseddyspagetty, theres no such thing as a folder04:04
eddyspagettythc04:04
rocketsits a directory04:04
eddyspagettythx04:04
NickPrestaeddyspagetty, `man ls` for more information04:04
rocketsNickPresta, when I ask somebody for help and they just tell me "man foo" I feel like hitting them.04:05
Jucatoyou might feel better with man:foo in Konqueror?04:05
rixon#foo works too, also in alt+f204:05
rocketshar har04:05
rixon(:04:05
NickPrestarockets, I agree with you but for `ls`, there isn't much I can say without more information. I would assume `man ls` and looking at the various options shouldn't be too tough, right?04:05
rocketsNickPresta, yes but if somebody wanted to read the man page they wouldnt be asking04:06
rocketsor maybe he looked and missed it so hes asking here04:06
Jucatobut if they didn't know about "man ls", they would still be asking :)04:06
NickPrestarockets, I told him `ls -R` and if he wasn't aware of `ls`, he would certainly be interested in `man ls` :)04:06
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rocketsNickPresta, he mentioned ls04:06
rocketshe knew ls04:07
rocketsbut its possible he doesnt know about man04:07
NickPrestarockets, okay, I'll defer all problems to you :)04:07
rocketsNickPresta, great!04:07
Jucatoat least NickPresta answered directly, then suggested reading the man page for more info04:07
gary_hello04:07
NickPresta!hi | gary_04:07
ubotugary_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:07
eddyspagettyNickPresta: thx, that was the command i searched :)04:08
dasKreechDoctor_Nick: What are those for?04:08
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nzkWhenever I set a resolution of higher than 1024x768 in either GNOME or KDE, there are artifacts all over the screen, and it's hard to describe. It's basically tiled, as a wallpaper would be if you set it to "tiled" should it be lower than your resolution, but with horrendous artifacts everywhere. This happened after I dpkg reconfigured xorg. Is there anything short of reinstallation of Ubuntu that I can do to fix this problem?04:10
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Minatakunzk: Reconfigure xorg again04:11
nzkAgain?04:11
nzk:\04:11
nzkWhat's the command, again?04:11
MinatakuMe, I would use "sudo xorgconfig"04:12
nzkThis same problem led to 7 of my 40 or so reformats in the past year.04:12
MinatakuWhich does it all manually via CLI04:12
MinatakuYou'll need to know the hardware you have exactly04:12
MinatakuSince it seems that the automatic configuration is failing04:12
nzk'xorgconfig - command not found'04:13
Minataku...04:13
MinatakuWhat the heck04:13
darthsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:13
Minatakudarth: We need a manual configuration04:13
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MinatakuDon't tell me, BTW, that *buntu takes xorgconfig out04:14
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MinatakuDarkrift412: Do they?04:14
MinatakuEr04:14
Minatakudarth04:14
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MinatakuSorry, Darkrift41204:14
nzkdarth: :\ It'll screw it up again.04:14
darthoops ! there should be a space between reconfigure and xserver-xorg04:15
darthI thought that was the manual way of doing it or am I missing something?04:15
MinatakuI dunno04:15
MinatakuI don't use Kubuntu or even Debian anymore04:15
MinatakuI replaced Debian with NetBSD on the machine that ran it04:16
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darthI'm on Kubuntu 7.04 .How do you like BSD?04:16
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nzkArgh.04:18
nzkI don't want to reformat because I'll lose all my crap.04:18
gary_question: has anyone figured a way to correctly set up an MS Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2?  I think it's 9 buttons, since the wheel scrolls up/down, left/right and middleclick04:19
gary_it has 2 thumb buttons which are supposed to nav back and forward along with the standard left and right buttons04:20
Minatakudarth: NetBSD I like very much04:20
MinatakuFreeBSD I don't care for too much04:20
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dasKreechhttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297501,00.html04:22
dasKreech:-D04:22
dasKreechnice screenshot04:22
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BluesKajMinataku, netBSD doesn't see my ethernet card ...guess i have to config it manually04:29
rocketsYaay I have the KDEs now!04:30
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dasKreechrockets: and the Iraq :)04:30
dasKreechLike such as04:30
rocketsdasKreech, what a great SNL skit04:31
dasKreechrockets: All I gotta say is alt+space and alt+Ctrl+A04:31
darlokCould someone please tell me how to mount a VCD disc?04:31
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greencookiewhassup04:34
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darlokCould someone please tell me how to mount a VCD disc?04:44
Biovoreisn't a VCD a iso image.. just like a normal cd..04:44
Biovorewith a mpeg file on it..04:45
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darlokBiovore: I'm not sure... I just know it won't mount and "mplayer vcd://1" doesn't work.04:45
stdinmplayer vcd:///dev/dvd ?04:46
darlokstdin: It's in my CD drive, not DVD.  Does that matter?04:46
stdinno, /dev/dvd should point to the read /dev/whatever device04:47
stdinsame as /dev/cdrom04:47
darlokstdin: Hmm... tried it in my DVD-ROM and this time mplayer tried to play it, but then exited with a "End of file" message04:47
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frbok, so I have a new PC, and I put in the Kubuntu 7.04 dvd, and booted up04:49
darlokEven VLC can't play it.04:49
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frbit went through the progressbar, but now I have a blank screen04:49
darlokOh well, I'll mess with it later.  Thanks.04:49
frbthere is a blinking underscore cursor at the top left04:50
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frband if I hit enter, it goes down one line04:50
frblooks like the nv driver doesn't like me04:50
frbcan I do a full install from text mode?04:51
stdinfrb: if you use the alternate cd04:51
frball I have is the 64bit dvd :/04:51
Jucatostdin: I think the dvd has that feature?04:51
frbhow about force VESA?04:51
stdinohh, you're using the DVD, then yeah04:52
frbugh, I just looked at lspci, my entire system is "nVidia Corporation Unknown device"04:52
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Jucatofrb: when you boot up the DVD, do you get to a menu asking you which installation you want to do?04:52
frbJucato: I did get the grub menu04:52
Jucatothere should be an option there to install in text mode?04:53
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frbI have start or install, start or install in safe graphics mode, and the rest are useless04:54
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Jucatohm... that would be strange...04:55
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frbwell, safe graphics seems to work04:57
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lewix i typed in apt-get update and I see a couple of file being updates in the cmd. Then I see adept update that has files in the waitlist waiting for my approval to update them05:06
lewixI don't get it05:07
lewix<lewix> I thought apt-get already did the job05:07
Jucatoapt-get update just checks for updates.05:07
lewixooh so how do I install update with apt-get05:07
Jucatoit doesn't really upgrade anything. that's what apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade is for05:07
lewixah ok05:07
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lewixnow I see05:08
Jucatosudo apt-get upgrade <--- safe upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- full upgrade05:08
lewixJucato, what the difference05:08
Jucatosafe and full :)05:09
lewixi dont get it05:09
Jucatoupgrade just upgrades what you have installed. it doesn't install anything new that you don't have yet05:10
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Jucatoso for example, if you already have package A installed, and a new version of package A is available, but needs package B to be installed too, it won't upgrade package A05:10
lewixok05:10
lewixthanks Jucato05:10
Jucatodist-upgrade does the full thing. hook, line and sinker05:10
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Zabulushas anyone had any problems with usb mice freezing randomly?05:13
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nixternalZabulus: only when the battery starts to die...but I think I have noticed it once or twice previously with my wireless usb microsoft mouse05:15
Zabulusim not even talking wireless05:15
Zabuluswired laser mouse, usb, when i start up kubuntu, it works fine for a little while, then freezes05:16
Zabuluscan still use the keyboard though05:16
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frbI think kubuntu just hung05:16
nixternalhrmm, I have a wired laser mouse and don't think I have ever noticed an issue05:16
frbI managed to boot in safe graphics mode, ran the install, booted, got past grub05:17
frbnow I have a blue triple gear image, a progress bar that stopped with maybe 1% complete05:17
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frbif I use ctrl-alt-F1, it just says "Loading, please wait..." and has a flashing cursor05:18
frbnow it dropped me to /bin/sh in the initramfs05:18
dasKreechrun a fsck ?05:22
frbcan't, it doesn't seem to detect the hd05:23
dasKreechno /dev ?05:23
frbalert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> does not exist.05:24
dasKreechRight of course05:24
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rocketsIs there any way to make conversation display the channel list more like xchat does05:29
rocketsthe list in a box on the left hand side05:29
rocketsi dont like tabs05:29
stdinrockets: Settings > configure konversation > tabs05:29
rocketsstdin, i looked there05:30
rocketswhen i tell it to put the tabs on the left they just dissapear05:30
rocketsah nvr mind05:30
rocketsthere it goes05:30
rocketsim dumb05:30
rocketshehe05:30
frbrockets: you could also try kvirc, it seems to be much more like xchat, without the suck05:30
nixternalhehe05:30
rocketsxchat doesnt suck!05:31
nixternalya, and I maintain kvirc :)05:31
stdinrockets: well that's the setting that does it05:31
rocketsanyway its fine now05:31
rocketsthanks05:31
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frbI prefer tabs on the top, I just got tired of changing it, so now it's on the left05:33
stdinif you have more than 4 tabs open, the bottom/top becomes a very restrictive area05:34
frbif I have more than 4 tabs open, I know it's time to leave some channels05:34
rocketsyeah05:34
rocketsgrr how do i tell kde to use pulseaudio05:35
rocketsim looking in the sound system05:35
rocketsi see Esd05:35
rocketsalsa05:35
rocketsOSS05:35
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frbok, so the livecd is booting again, and will boot fine05:37
frbafter installing, it won't boot fine05:38
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frbhow can I fix this ?05:38
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rocketsstdin, who is this someone05:39
dasKreechfrb: how far does it reach?05:39
frbwhen I boot the installed system, it doesn't reach anything, it loads /bin/sh with a (initramfs) prompt05:40
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rocketsgrrrrr pulseaudio05:41
rocketsargh05:42
rocketsi got it working through such a hack05:42
rocketsinstalled the Esd compatibility library for pulse05:42
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rocketsand told kde to use ESD05:42
stdinrockets: just some guy who likes to complain a lot rather than change one setting05:42
rocketsstdin, grr.05:42
lewixhow do I start the sound server: artsd &?05:42
gangbkmy wmv9 porn ain't workin, can somebody help ???!!! PLEASE ???  I BEG OF YOU!!!!05:43
rocketsstdin, btw are there any hacks to get gmail working with konqueror? i changed my user agent05:43
rocketsgangbk are you serious?05:43
gangbk:)05:43
kloplophow do I fix this error? "sudo: /var/run/sudo/kloplop owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0"05:43
rocketsgangbk, either way when all else fails use VLC05:43
gangbkbahhh05:43
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lewixI installed the last version of flash but I still have trouble watching videos05:43
rocketskaffeine+xine plays wmv just fine05:43
lewixhow do I start the sound server: artsd &?05:43
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dasKreechfrb: Maybe try a new parameter on the grub?05:44
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stdinrockets: don't think so, they use some doggy javascript on gmail05:44
gangbkdoes it ?  wmv9 doesn't work05:44
dasKreechfrb: laptop?05:44
frbdasKreech: no, crazy-new PC05:44
gangbkmaybe i have to upgrade codecs ?05:44
stdinkloplop: try "sudo -K"05:44
kloplopsame05:45
dasKreechfrb: that might be an issue. how crazy new? Barcelona?05:45
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frbnot that new05:45
frbNV 7025/630a motherboard05:45
kloplopI changed the folder permissions on the /var/ folder and some how broke the sudo opperations and recieve this error:sudo: /var/run/sudo/kloplop owned by uid 1000, should be uid 005:45
frboddly enough, it looks like my wireless card may be the only thing working flawlessly05:46
dasKreechfrb05:46
dasKreechha did you try Gutsy?05:46
frbnope, I just picked up 7.04 because I don't like betas05:46
frbI think I have a suse 10.2 dvd around here somewhere too though05:47
gangbkwhat is the difference between 7.04 and 6.06 ?05:47
stdinkloplop: general rule, don't change permissions on a top level directory.  try "rm /var/run/sudo/kloplop" then you should change the permissions back, they were like that for a reason05:47
rocketsgangbk, 6.06 is much older . . . 7.04 is a much smoother desktop experience.05:48
kloplopthanks, I will try that05:48
Biovore6.06 is the long term support version..05:48
stdingangbk: 6.06 was released in 2006/06 and 7.04 was released in 2007/0405:48
Biovoreother versions only have a 2 year life span05:48
rocketsif you want LTS wait till the release after gutsy, 6.06 is too dated05:48
kloplopit wouldn't let me remove the folder, permision denied05:48
gangbki just installed 6.06 ... have it up and running well... except the wmv9 problem05:48
rocketsunless you MUST have lts now05:48
JucatoBiovore: make that 18 months05:48
dasKreech!w32codecs05:48
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:48
gangbkawesome05:49
BiovoreJucato: rgr. its something like that.. veries05:49
stdinnever varies, always 18 months unless LTS05:49
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gangbki just need something stable and supported ... just for net access05:50
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JucatoLTS is ideally rock stable (YMMV)... and a bit dated because of that stability05:50
gangbkis there an apt-get for newest codecs ?05:50
Jucato(just like Debian stable)05:50
Biovoreyeah.. LTS is good for servers realy.. desktop it a bit outdated05:51
kloplopI am still getting access denied and rm /var/run/sudo/kloplop replies "Access denied"05:51
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JucatoBiovore: believe it or not, some user like it that way :/05:51
stdinkloplop: you need to reboot then, that will remove the file05:52
Jucatousers*05:52
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Biovoreyeah.. I use LTS on workstation machines...05:52
Jucatoon desktops I mean...05:52
BiovoreThings I need to have in a stable configuration for longer then 18 months.05:52
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kloplopok, I will come back then.05:52
BiovoreLTS -> Work05:52
BiovoreSTS -> Play05:53
stdinLTS ha, I'm not even running a stable version of Kubuntu (And haven't for over a year)05:53
dasKreechkloplop: or sudo05:53
Jucatocuting edge -> work :)05:53
Jucatocutting*05:53
BiovoreI have a box still running brezzy05:53
gangbk:(  stdin05:53
frb-homeok, so wireless works fine from the livecd environment05:53
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stdinalmost as soon as the toolchain for hardy is released I'll upgrade again05:54
frb-homekonq can't resolve google, but konversation works05:54
Jucatostdin: I usually wait until the 3rd or 4th alpha... but depends on my mood heheh05:54
dasKreechJucato: it's reverse logic05:54
bigleon\05:54
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stdinJucato: this is my "play" machine, I have a desktop with edgy/feisty dualboot if I really need it :)05:55
dasKreechbleeding edge is newer. Though the idea is that it's so cutting edge it's covered with blood. Though of course that should take longer ....05:55
frb-homeactually, konq can't connect to anything05:55
gangbkhas anyone had their windows installation sp2 cd not recognize its own files on an install ?05:55
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dasKreechI have a warty box somewhere05:55
Jucatofrb-home: it might be a DNS problem... how to solve that... I don't really know :(05:55
NickPrestagangbk, I've had Windows SP2 do a lot of strange things :)05:55
frb-homeJucato: irc works fine, ssh works fine05:56
Jucatofrb-home: yes. that happens usually with DNS problems.05:56
JucatoIRC works but not HTTP05:56
kloplopThankyou for helping me, stdin05:56
Biovorefrb-home: Many people have complained of this.. I havn't been able to get this problem to show up here.. :-/05:56
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gangbkit said missing files la la la ... please insert Windows Sp2 CD... uh this is the one Dell gave me, it says Windows Sp2 reinstallation CD05:56
stdinkloplop: so you can sudo again now?05:56
Biovoreso I can't tell you want is actualy wrong05:56
gangbki must be retarded05:57
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gangbkthe best thing is when it couldn't recognize its own built in Wifi card05:57
raquelI'm having issues with adept - I've already ran the donsole to05:58
raquelsudo apt-get -f install:05:58
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raqueloh that was the wrong paste05:58
gangbksudo apt-get install  ????05:59
raqueldpkg --configure -a05:59
stdinyou mean...05:59
stdin!aptfix05:59
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:59
stdin?05:59
raquelthat didn't do anything05:59
gangbkare you trying to install adept ?05:59
frb-homew3m works06:00
frb-homeso it must be a kde lib/app didn't reread the resolv.conf06:00
gangbknmd06:00
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raquelhow do I run adept from the console in order that I can see what it's doing?06:01
Jucatoadept_manager06:01
raquel(and yeah did that sudo fuser thing too)06:01
Jucatoer.. kdesu adept_manager06:01
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kloplopyes I can do sudo and kdesu again, thanks.06:02
raquelraquel@:~$ kdesu adept_manager06:02
raquelX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15406:02
stdin!paste | raquel06:02
uboturaquel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:02
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stdin!baddevice | raquel06:03
uboturaquel: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:03
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Jucatobah..06:03
Jucatoquiet doesn't work06:03
stdinwas just about to do that actually06:03
stdinworks here06:03
stdinie: no flood :)06:03
Jucatoah only I see it :)06:03
frb-homeapt-get works06:03
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Jucatoraquel: next time, don't paste multiple lines inside the channel06:04
frb-homeafk06:04
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raqueljucato - I don't usually - it's just more time efficient at the moment06:05
NickPresta!attitude | raquel06:05
uboturaquel: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:05
raquelthat and 'this nick belongs to someone else06:05
Jucatotime efficient?06:05
stdintough :) no flooding  kthks06:05
rocketsI feel like this is a silly question06:05
rocketsbut how can i make katapult start at the beginning of every session06:05
rocketsWITHOUT having to save the session06:05
Jucato!autostart | rockets06:05
uboturockets: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:05
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rocketsah ok06:06
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NickPrestaI thought the same time, Jucato :)06:06
newbihi06:07
raquelfine I understand - is there a fix for this - or do I sscrap this instal and start from scratch again06:07
NickPrestas/time/thing/ god I'm tired06:07
NickPrestaraquel, I believe stdin already provided a solution.06:07
NickPresta!baddevice | raquel06:07
uboturaquel: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:07
raquelthat is not the actuall issue = read the rest = ie about the server06:08
newbiim looking to install my webcam "trust wb 5400"the option camorama doenst work with it06:10
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dasKreech!webcam06:10
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:10
stdinraquel: we didn't see the rest, you were muted. paste it to pastebin06:10
SeanTaterkmix will play my microphone though my speakers, which is good. So where does it get that information so I can record it?06:11
newbihow do i open an exe file to place my own drivers for my webcam can work?06:13
raquelok so on this tex bin thing -= how do I show it here now06:13
stdinpost the url here06:13
newbido i change the extention exe to tar,rar,zip or what so ever?06:14
stdinnewbi: you don't, you can't use windows drivers because they are windows drivers06:14
raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38207/06:14
dasKreechI'm still confused as to how to set the Buttons on my multimedia keyboard to a channel of my soundcard06:14
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raquelnewbi - try Wine to run them06:16
Biovorewell windows drivers probably won't work on linux..06:16
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newbiraquel: wine??why will i want to run wine for my webcam?how will it work for kopete?06:16
stdintake out the "probably" in that sentence and it'll be true06:17
xgod069hello anyone albe to help with kubuntu06:17
gangbklol06:17
gangbkwindows drivers sometimes don't even work for windows  :)06:17
Biovorestdin: well there is ndis..06:17
raquelIt won't but it could run with the Windows version of Messenger06:17
Biovorebut thats for wifi cards mostly06:17
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newbirap06:17
dasKreechxgod069: that's what this room is for06:17
stdinBiovore: only for wifi driver, and only because they just use firmware not "drivers" as such06:18
Biovorergr06:18
newbiraquel: i dont want no windows version of msn i want kopete06:18
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Biovorenewbi: what webcam?06:18
xgod069can someone pm me that know's somewhat about the kubuntu system based off of Window's programs06:18
Jucatoxgod069: come again?06:18
raquelnewbi - sorry I don't know much more about web cams06:18
gangbk?06:18
stdinxgod069: ask in the channel so we can all see the question06:19
Biovoreraquel: what kind of web cam?  model number, manufacture?06:19
Jucatoxgod069: didn't quite get your question06:19
dasKreechxgod069: You have a better chance of an answer here and that answer may help others06:19
xgod069i'm trying to install wine into kubutnu so i can run WoW but it wont let me install it or uptade it in the konsole06:19
raquelBiovore = newbi has the cam instal06:19
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Biovoreah..06:19
stdinxgod069: how are you trying?06:19
dasKreechxgod069: How are you trying to instal it?06:19
newbiBiovore: trust wb-540006:20
Jucato!wow06:20
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php06:20
raquelxgod069 apt-get install wine06:20
stdinsudo ^06:20
xgod069tryed that =/06:20
xgod069it just go's blank06:20
dasKreechxgod069: What do you mean?06:20
xgod069then when i try to update it it say's cannot connect to server list then blank agian06:21
dasKreechYou get back the command prompt?06:21
raquelhmm that is how I instaled it - by changce are you one an AMD 64 machine06:21
newbilol06:21
xgod069lol no06:21
dasKreechxgod069: can You pastebin your sources list06:21
raquelsorry about my typing - I hte this keyboard06:21
xgod069i will try leme check real quick06:21
dasKreech!paste | xgod06906:21
ubotuxgod069: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:21
gangbkhttp://www.winehq.org/site/download06:21
gangbktry any of these ?  http://www.winehq.org/site/download06:21
dasKreechThe file is /etc/apt.sources.list06:21
dasKreechgangbk: apt-get update not working is a larger issue :)06:22
gangbkahhh06:22
JucatodasKreech: misplaced a punctuation there :)06:22
gangbkgedit /etc/apt.sources.list06:22
raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38207/  < that was from earlier - can someone look at it06:22
gangbksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:23
Jucatogangbk: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:23
stdingangbk: gedit is for gnome and NEVER use sudo with GUI apps06:23
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xgod069>.< i'm so confused lol06:24
dasKreechxgod069: find the file /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
stdinpress Alt+F2 and put in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
dasKreech^^^ that works06:25
stdinthen copy all of the text and paste in to the pastebin site06:26
stdinthen post the address back06:26
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raquelno one has looked at my pastebin - but they wonder why I flooded the chat??06:27
xgod069http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38209/06:28
xgod069O.o06:28
raquelYou don't have may selected..06:29
raquelmany06:29
newbikonq est vraiment moch pour certain site :(06:29
Jucatonewbi: #kubuntu-fr06:30
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stdinxgod069: replace what you have with this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38210/06:30
newbiJucato: no need06:31
dasKreechraquel: been playing with xauth have we?06:31
stdinnewbi: then only speak english in this channel06:31
raquelI am trying to run a lot of Windows aps on Kubuntu :D06:31
newbiJucato: i'll be still here waitting to see if anyone can help me install my webcam06:31
xgod069>.< it wont let me write to the file06:31
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stdinxgod069: you opened it with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ?06:32
raquelbut I need some things for for WINE to work  and my adept has failed06:32
SilentDishello :)06:32
xgod069i ran the command that i was told to06:33
stdinxgod069: no matter, close it without saving and open again with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then overwrite with the one I gave you06:33
dasKreechraquel: What did you do with xauth?06:33
xgod069ok replaced the txt06:34
raquelI allowed control of this desktop from my dad's desktop (also running Kubuntu06:34
SilentDisis there a tool in KDE to choose the 'default' network connection to use?  I have a slow 'net access via eth0, and EVDO high-speed available, managed by kppp.  everything still 'favors' the slow connection on eth0.  Short of disabling eth0 (which does work, but I can't get to other network resources then), is there any way to do this?06:34
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stdinxgod069: ok, now in konsole put "sudo apt-get update"06:35
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julianooi06:35
xgod069:O it ask for pass06:35
stdinxgod069: yep, put yours in06:36
dasKreechraquel: well something you did made it more difficult for apps on the local machine to get permission06:36
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xgod069is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list06:36
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raquelI'm geting a lot of Warning: No X authentication info set for display :0.006:37
stdinxgod069: ok, you need to remove that file, it's just getting in the way and causing errors, so do "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list" then "sudo apt-get update" again06:37
raquelcannot connect to X server :0.006:37
dasKreechraquel: yes You set instructions for your remote computers to connect06:37
dasKreechYou need to set ones for the local as well06:38
xgod069:O! bah more problems06:38
xgod069no such directery06:38
raquelthis issue with adept started before I set that to allow my father to see what I am doing on this computer06:39
stdinxgod069: what was the exact command you put in?06:39
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xgod069sudo rm /ect/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list06:39
stdinxgod069: it's "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"  't' and 'c' the other way round :p06:40
newbiwill easycam install the right driver for my trust cam?06:40
xgod069>.< :P06:40
dasKreechraquel: I'm assuming adept doesn't start06:40
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dasKreech!tab | xgod06906:41
ubotuxgod069: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:41
raqueldasKreech - no it wn't strart and apt-get is giv\ing a string of errors06:41
dasKreechxgod069: tab is very useful06:41
dasKreechraquel: What string of errors. pastebin please06:41
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xgod069ok it updated correctly now what06:43
SilentDisproblem: 2 net connections, one on eth0, the other managed by KPPP.  How can I tell all apps to use the KPPP connection, rather than the eth0 connection?06:43
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stdinxgod069: now you can do "sudo apt-get install wine" to install wine :)06:43
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stdinxgod069: or you can use Adept, which ever you want06:43
xgod069niceness it's installing06:44
dasKreechnewbi: did you read the webcam page?06:44
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raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38214/06:44
raquelBRB06:45
Biovoresudo apt-get update06:45
Biovoresudo apt-get upgrade06:45
newbidasKreech: yes im readding alot of pages right now.i just install easycam drivers to see if it works06:45
xgod069stdin: ok now that it's installed how do i go about running it?06:45
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dasKreechnewbi: ok06:46
stdinxgod069: see this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#head-3acca7686806077923c05fa38c442e856ffacc5406:46
SilentDisBiovore: do it all in 1 line.  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude autoclean06:46
raquelback06:46
dasKreechraquel: Wrong command06:46
dasKreechraquel: sudo apt-get update06:46
newbistdin: what is Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:624e Microdia?i only got 2 things in my usb port,my benq mouse and my trust webcam.i dot know nothing about :Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:624e Microdia06:46
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xgod069stdin: lol the fun part :P06:47
xgod069installing WoW06:47
xgod069XD06:47
stdinnewbi: I don't know, does the name "Microdia" mean anything to you? have you googled it?06:48
newbistdin: easycam say to choose my webcam but i dont see it when i do lsusb06:48
stdinxgod069: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft also, more specific instructions for WoW there06:49
raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38216/06:49
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raquelsudo apt-0get update output06:49
raquel(I really hate this keybaord06:50
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stdinraquel: you haven't imported the wine gpg key "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - "06:51
dasKreechraquel: that's good. you may want to get the key for that last repo06:51
stdinxp_killer: stop that06:51
dasKreechstdin: You did not just do that out of  your head06:51
stdindasKreech: no, it's on the wine page which I had open for xgod069 :)06:52
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xp_killerstdin: stop what?chaging names?06:52
stdinxp_killer: no, broadcasting potentially illegal activities06:52
dasKreechxp_killer: Talking about warez06:52
dasKreechthat's a quickly bannable offence06:52
xp_killerwarez?06:52
dasKreechDownloading movies06:52
xp_killerwhat is warez?06:52
stdin!pirate06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pirate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:52
stdinarr06:53
stdin:p06:53
dasKreechstdin: No man you gotta spell it with l337 talk06:53
Jucatoxp_killer: warez is a term mostly used for illegally acquired software06:53
stdin!piracy | xp_killer06:53
ubotuxp_killer: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o06:53
Jucatoo4o? hm... that's new06:53
xp_killerstdin: it not elegal it came out on dvd06:53
Jucatoxp_killer: so why are you downloading it?06:54
raquelis there a way to tell it to install the updates (yes fixed the key issue already06:54
dasKreechxp_killer: regardless do NOT talk about downloading movies music or software here06:54
dasKreechraquel: apt-cache policy package I think06:54
stdinraquel: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will do a "Full Upgrade"06:54
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xp_killerbecause the website said we could.the same site who sells the dvd but u got to pay.im paying by month. Jucato06:55
dasKreechJucato: He wanted to know if there was an upgrade for a package06:55
JucatodasKreech: um.. nope he/she didn't :)06:56
raquelthis still doesn't fix my adept issue..06:56
dasKreechraquel: sorry. are you male or female?06:56
Jucatoxp_killer: ok then. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. but next time do not talk about those as it will immediately be considered piracy06:56
stdinxp_killer: regardless, it's potentially and illegal activity to download movies and even if it's not in your particular circumstance then it's still offtopic06:56
Jucatoconsidered/presumed06:56
raquelfemale06:56
dasKreechraquel: ok thanks06:56
n8k99arrgh, and everybody knows that International Talk like a Pirate Day was so 2 days ago06:57
dasKreechJucato: Well she asked if a package was updated06:57
xp_killerlol06:57
dasKreechor so I though06:57
dasKreechthought06:57
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dasKreechn8k99: Aye ma8ey..9906:57
xgod069yea lol this is gonna take a while06:57
dasKreechxgod069: Yeah wow is big. So is Wine06:58
xgod069yea i knoticed06:58
dasKreechraquel: agreed. but at least now you can normally install things while you sort that out06:58
raquelerm this update is taking a while - 1/2 of them are security updates06:58
raqueldaskreech =- so true06:58
dasKreechJucato: I take it you don06:59
stdinraquel: then that's a good thing you're installing them06:59
JucatodasKreech: don what?06:59
dasKreecht wanna throw yourself at a xauth error ?06:59
Jucatonope. haven't tried figuring that out06:59
xp_killertrust webcam s***07:00
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xp_killer*07:00
raquelmy dad's computer would have been finished already....07:00
raquelit's 6 x faster than this old P307:00
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dasKreechraquel: Well if you did it on his you can just pull them across the network07:01
xgod069lol if i was smart this copy of wow would have been done way faster in the 52x speed drive i have instead of this 16x dvd speed drive07:01
raquelerm not yet we can't we can't seem to make these two properly communicate on the network yet07:02
dasKreechOr as mounted ISOs07:02
raquel(mostly because of the missing things on this computer07:02
raquelhey it just replaced my grub :/07:03
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dasKreechHa ha :)07:03
dasKreechwhat's missing that you can't connect to a network ... and you can download?07:04
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raqueldasKreech - I'm not sure what's missing  - and EVERYTHINHG is downloadable07:04
dasKreechraquel: sooo you can connect to the internet but not each other?07:05
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raquelwell we can connect using ther07:07
raqueltry that again...07:07
xgod069interesting07:07
raquelwe can connect using krdc/krfb thing07:07
raquelbut  otherwise no connection07:07
xgod069the new version's of wine automaticly install the program's into a fake folder07:07
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dasKreechraquel: not even ssh ?07:08
raquelssh - thing that is one of the missing things on this computer07:08
dasKreechah you need the server?07:09
xgod069afk for like idk um an hour while this installs :)07:09
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raquelerm yeah - I have some idea that I need to set up some type of server on both sides and the we should be able to connect07:10
dasKreechxp_killer: no need for insults let them know you are a Linux user and would appreciate the support07:10
raquelbut am mystified beyond that07:10
dasKreechraquel: sudo apt-get install ssh on both07:10
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dasKreechthen you can open konqueror and type fish://ip.add.re.ss07:11
raquelssh is installed on his (he's setting up a whole Apache server on his07:11
dasKreechxp_killer: on a schedule ?07:11
dasKreechapache and ssh are not related :)07:12
raquelerm it ask for CD - have to go find it07:13
xp_killerno lol.kubuntu....i'm a little oard with it now so i want to try other linux.i try ubuntu it's lame dont like it,it remind me of windows 9507:13
dasKreechraquel: eek. You probbaly should take that out of your sources.list07:13
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frbhow can I find the boot line used for the livecd failsafe graphics mode?07:14
xgod069we'll i know i'm done with window's forever =)07:14
frbthat seems to work, the installed system doesn't07:14
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dasKreechJucato: You popped up on Planetkde again07:16
dasKreechfrb: press F607:16
raquelit's funny how whne you need a particular disk version you find 3 of the wrong version first07:17
JucatohuH? wha?07:17
JucatodasKreech: troy's blog?07:17
dasKreechFor example, Jucato's or liquidat's websites often have good KDE content on it07:17
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dasKreechraquel: Yep. When it's done I'll help you get rid of that07:17
Jucatoyeah.that post "inspired" me to write that longish "Why KDE" post07:17
frb-homedasKreech: I can't get it from the running livecd so I can put it in my grub conf on the installed system?07:17
dasKreechfrb-home: yes you can interrupt grub and insert it07:18
dasKreechif it boots ok then you can make it more permanent07:18
frb-homeI thought there was a way to retrieve it in /proc07:19
frb-homethere it is, dmedg07:19
frb-homeCommand line: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper xforcevesa initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --07:19
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raquelwhy would my computer not recognize the Kubuntu CD07:20
dasKreechxforcevesa is what you want07:20
frb-homeI think I may be missing modules in the initrd as well07:21
frb-homesince it didn't even get to the part about failing vesa, it never even got to init07:21
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jawee_I am getting this error when compiling software. I'm not sure what to set.07:22
jawee_checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:22
Daisuke_Laptopis what you're compiling in the repositories?07:22
xp_killerfor no reson everything just crash while i was watching a video.konq and firefow dont want to launch anymore07:22
xp_killercorrection nothing workin07:22
dasKreechjawee_: you need xdevlibs07:23
jawee_Daisuke_Laptop: yes, but the version in the repos is not quite working07:23
jawee_dasKreech: thank you07:23
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raquelKubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)'07:23
raquelin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter07:23
raquelhow do I abort and make it look online for htis07:24
dasKreechraquel: you really should just take the apt-cdrom line out07:24
dasKreechraquel: ^c07:24
LogicalDashI want Kate to not open the Documents pane upon opening a file. Is there a way to do this?07:24
raquelso '^c' - where?07:24
dasKreechkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:24
dasKreechraquel: sorry ^ means Ctrl07:24
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dasKreechLogicalDash: F12 I think07:25
dasKreechMight be F1107:25
jawee_dasKreech: Can I not get xdevlibs with the*buntu repos?07:25
dasKreechjawee_: that's not the right name sorry07:26
Daisuke_Laptopxorg-dev07:26
jawee_thanks07:26
dasKreechxserver-xorg-dev07:26
Daisuke_Laptopthat's the X libs07:26
dasKreechor xorg-dev07:26
raquelok that stopped that install07:27
dasKreechkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:27
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raquelhmm so how do i get ssh - without it asking for the stupid CD again07:27
dasKreechraquel: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:28
LogicalDashdasKreech, what I'm looking for is a setting such that I can open Kate and not see the Documents pane, keyboard shortcuts don't help much.07:28
raquelok that open07:29
frb-homeok, I found that my HD is /dev/sg0, how do I mount partitions from it?07:29
raquelerm maybe not Kate cannot connect to X server:0.007:29
JucatoLogicalDash: simple. Open Kate, hide the Documents pane. Session -> Save07:30
jawee_LogicalDash: Why not use KWrite?07:30
Jucato(because kwrite isn't set as the default text editor in Kubuntu)07:30
frb-homeoh balderdash this is annoying07:30
Jucato(and is actually hidden from the menu)07:31
dasKreechraquel: of course not07:31
frb-homearen't kate and kwrite the same engine anyway?07:31
dasKreech^c07:31
Jucatofrb-home: "use" the same engine, but are 2 different shells07:31
dasKreechsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:31
jawee_Jucato: oh, didn't realize. I don't use the menu too much. I motsly use katapult anyway.07:31
jawee_that or alt+f207:31
frb-homemy hardware is too new, linux isn't happy07:31
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Jucatojawee_: well, you can't run kwrite from katapult too unless it's added to the menu07:32
JucatoLogicalDash: kwrite is the simple text editor. no multiple documents, no session management07:32
jawee_Jucato: I seemed to have added it at some point07:32
dasKreechfrb-home: Gutsy maybe? :-)07:32
Jucatojawee_: I would have thought so :)07:32
LogicalDashJucato, I want the external tools and class browser07:32
frb-homethe only burner I have is here in this machine07:32
JucatoLogicalDash: kwrite doesn't have those07:32
frb-homethis being the machine that doesn't work07:33
Jucatohm.. class browser?07:33
LogicalDashJucato, the Python class browser, it's one of the default plugins07:33
dasKreechfrb-home: Cute. What happens when you put in the xforcevesa ?07:33
raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38219/  << that is not good07:33
jawee_Jucato: No, kedit is the true simple text editor of KDE07:33
Jucatojawee_: er. not since the creation of katepart (that engine you were talking about)07:33
Jucatobecause kedit doesn't use that07:33
Jucatoso you could say kedit is the old, deprecated (and now unmaintained) simple text editor of KDE07:34
jawee_eh, I still use it for config files07:34
jawee_Kate for serious stuff07:34
Jucatomaybe you do. but not the rest of KDE :)07:34
frb-homedasKreech: I haven't rebooted yet, I'm trying to figure out how to get to my root device now07:35
LogicalDashJucato, how do I change the default session in Kate?07:35
Jucatokwrite is actually the default KDE text editor. Kubuntu just set it to use kate07:35
JucatoLogicalDash: what do you mean?07:35
dasKreechraquel: that's brilliant! how did you do that?07:35
LogicalDashJucato, I mean when I close the Documents pane and save session it doesn't overwrite the default session, so I want to set the new session as default07:35
LogicalDashJucato, so that the new session will be used at startup07:35
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dasKreechJucato: Isn't it the default in KDE4 ?07:36
JucatodasKreech: it is even in KDE 307:36
raqueldasKreech - that is the output of my bash shell07:36
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dasKreechraquel: I know it's fantabulous07:36
JucatoLogicalDash: Settings -> Configure Kate -> Sessions I think07:37
dasKreechraquel:ok do you have a cusuor?07:37
JucatoKubuntu set it that Kate starts a new session every time07:37
dasKreechwhere you can move and type?07:37
LogicalDashJucato, nope07:37
raquelof course07:37
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LogicalDashJucato, it lets me manually choose a session every time but that's an even bigger pain07:37
dasKreechraquel: ok put a # at the start of line 707:37
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JucatoLogicalDash: how about "LOad last-used session"?07:38
LogicalDashJucato, wouldn't that make it open the previous document? I don't want that.07:38
raquelok did that07:38
=== LogicalDash tries it anyway
JucatoLogicalDash: it's set to Do not save session right?07:38
=== LogicalDash headdesk
brohkencan someone help me get my nvidia card working properly on my laptop? i am not getting the proper resolution07:39
dasKreechraquel: See those notes at the bottom of the screen?07:39
LogicalDashYes, that actually does what I want in a way that wasn't exactly how I phrased it07:39
LogicalDashI fail07:39
raquelhang on small screen have to roll it down07:39
dasKreechWell ^o saves or writes the file07:39
dasKreechraquel: the notes don't move07:39
dasKreechGet help, Exit etc07:39
frbok, it's not xforcevesa07:40
LogicalDashJucato, but it's still opening the Documents pane and I'm confused07:40
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raquelok erm amybe I'm not sure shich nots07:40
frbit's currently hanging on loading the "scsi" devices07:40
dasKreechraquel: ^G Get Help07:40
raquelagh not sue which notes07:40
dasKreechraquel: ^O WriteOut07:40
LogicalDashWhen I open the new No Documents Pane session, the titlebar still says Default Session, maybe that's the problem?07:40
LogicalDashOr an indication thereof07:41
dasKreechraquel: In any case press ^O07:41
raqueloh those nots - yes see those07:41
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dasKreechraquel: Those are the notes for the commands  in nano07:41
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dasKreechremember ^ ;-)07:41
JucatoLogicalDash: try this. open the Default Session. hide the doc pane, save the Default session. then set it to manually ask for session. restart kate, then from the dialog box, select Always use this choice07:41
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brohkencan someone help me get my nvidia card working properly on my laptop? i am not getting the proper resolution07:42
dasKreech!nvidia | brohken07:42
ubotubrohken: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:42
LogicalDashhmm, alternately... since I did just produce a functional No Documents Pane session, and they're stored in text files, I could modify my Default Session to match my No Documents Pane session07:42
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raquel[ Wrote 47 lines ] 07:42
JucatoLogicalDash: I just tried what I told you to try. it works for me.07:42
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=== LogicalDash tries it
JucatoLogicalDash: you could also use that No Document Pane session as the Always use this session07:43
dasKreechraquel: ^X07:43
dasKreechtry install ssh again07:43
frboh, now it works07:43
dasKreechMust... not.... !worksforme .... jucato......07:43
frbhow ODD07:43
LogicalDashJucato, thanks!07:43
dasKreechfrb: What was it?07:43
JucatoLogicalDash: works now?07:43
frbI changed my SATA controller to AHCI instead of IDE07:44
LogicalDashJucato, It worked, now I can type with 33% more space07:44
frbwhen it was "Linux AHCI" it failed, when it was set to "IDE" it failed07:44
Jucatonice. :)07:44
brohkendasKreech: im sort of not able to detect my video card07:44
=== Jucato actually just uses the Kate Session Applet
brohkenim using virtualbox to run xubuntu on a vista laptop07:45
=== LogicalDash goes back to learning how to write his very first Python script :-)
JucatoLogicalDash: Kate's sessions can be *very* useful when coding :)07:45
raquelhow do I test to see if that works or not07:45
Jucatothey're like Projects in KDevelop07:45
dasKreechraquel: install ssh07:45
LogicalDashgraaaah, it doesn't work if I click to open a file in Konqueror07:46
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brohkencan anyone help me install nvidia drivers on my xubuntu instance? its running in a virtual box07:48
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LogicalDashyaaay, it worked07:49
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dasKreechbrohken: which nvidia?07:50
LogicalDashnow I can REALLY reclaim that window07:50
brohkendasKreech: i have a quadro 140m07:50
frbcan I Not use NetworkManager?07:50
frbI really hate it07:50
dasKreechfrb: join the line07:51
LogicalDashfrb, the last version of Kubuntu had an app called WirelessAssistant that worked okay, it's probably still in the repositories07:51
brohkenlspci | grep -i nvidia doesnt show me anything07:51
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frbI would, if it worked07:52
dasKreechbrohken: try lshw -C Video07:52
frbI disabled my wired connection, but it won't let me enable wireless07:52
frbI run dhclient ra1, and everything is swimming perfectly07:52
frbI just want to kill it07:52
LogicalDashfrb, I don't think you're supposed to enable/disable wireless through NetworkManager, try kconfig07:52
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brohkenbash: try: command not found07:53
frbkconfig?07:53
brohkendasKreech: ^07:53
frbfirst thing I have to do over there is get myself some hot NVidia action and do 1680x105007:54
dasKreechbrohken: ha ha without the try07:54
LogicalDashfrb, K menu -> System Configuration if you prefer07:54
LogicalDasher, System Settings07:54
dasKreechraquel: How you doing?07:54
frbLogicalDash: oh, the kapplet does that for me, and that's where I was doing it07:54
brohkendasKreech: sorry, lol07:54
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raquelerm there was another CD  on that - fixed that =- but now I have a whole different issue07:55
dasKreechraquel: right07:55
brohkenhttp://pastebin.ca/70673007:56
LogicalDashfrb, then... what trouble are you having with NetworkManager, exactly07:56
LogicalDash?07:56
raquelE: Could not get  lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open(11 Resource temoraritly unavbailable07:56
LogicalDashfrb, I probably can't help though07:56
raquelthen it ask about another resource using it07:56
LogicalDashraquel, are you running other package management software?07:56
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frbknetworkmanager applet thing says the network is broken07:57
frbI can't use it to choose wireless, or switch networks07:58
dasKreech!adeptfix | raquel07:58
uboturaquel: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:58
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frbI belive that since knetworkmanager says it's broken, konqueror doesn't work07:58
frbas I installed firefox and it does work07:58
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frbas do konversation, ssh, apt, w3m ...07:58
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LogicalDashfrb, way outta my depth, sorry07:59
frbI get that alot07:59
brohkenhttp://pastebin.ca/706730 dasKreech07:59
alaskanGreets, everyone...07:59
dasKreechfrb: Just kill it if it's not working and dhclient on the command line08:00
alaskanSorry this is a bit off-topic, but does anyone know of a way to close all running Screenlets from the command line?08:00
LogicalDashgoodnight everybody08:00
dasKreechalaskan: reboot? :)08:00
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dasKreechLogicalDash: Nigh08:00
frbBINGO08:00
alaskandasKreech: nice08:00
dasKreechalaskan: What are screenlets again?08:00
frbI quit knetworkmanager, and now konqueror works08:00
alaskandasKreech: composited widgets08:00
frbwho was debugging this earlier?08:00
dasKreechfrb: Yeah it's really dumb08:00
alaskani.e., for use with Compiz08:00
dasKreechfrb: When it wants to be. It's young so like Kopete i'll give it time08:01
dasKreechalaskan: Ah. try in #ubuntu-effects08:01
alaskandasKreech: Already did. It's dead in there, but thanks.08:01
frbdasKreech: networkmanager sucked when I didn't use it back in 03, I don't want to use it now08:01
dasKreechbrohken: You are right. It is indeed not being detected :)08:01
raquel'hang on new interesting thingy08:02
dasKreechfrb: By all means go ahead08:02
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dasKreechraquel: Tune in next week...08:02
brohkendasKreech: any idea how i can set that up?08:02
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raquelhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38220/08:02
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dasKreechbrohken: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's what Virtual box is reporting08:02
alvaro23_infoxphola08:02
raquelkill or not to kill prossess08:02
alvaro23_infoxphello08:03
dasKreechkill08:03
frbwas it Biovore that said he was trying to debug this problem?08:03
dasKreechHe does seem a likely candidate08:03
frbnow I need an nvidia howto, or I'll just do it manually08:04
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dasKreech!nvidia08:04
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:04
dasKreechLogicalDash: hello08:04
frbI just found that on google :)08:04
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raqueldpkg: status database area is locked by another process <<<which prossess and how do I find and kill it?08:06
Daisuke_Laptopi have a question instead of a snarky comment for a change08:06
Daisuke_Laptopmy laptop is called "dell"08:06
Daisuke_Laptopi would prefer it be called something less...  bleh08:06
Daisuke_Laptopi didn't get the option to determine what its name would be upon first launch (though it did ask about username and such)08:07
dasKreechraquel: do you have another window with apt-get running ?08:07
dasKreech!hostname08:08
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab08:08
raquelfound and fixed =- installing ssh now from apt-get08:08
dasKreechraquel: \o/08:09
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raquelSetting up ssh (4.3p2-8ubuntu1) ...08:09
raquel(last of over 100 lines of crap to get such a small file...08:10
raquelok so how do I get this whole network thing working08:11
dasKreechYeah it does a lot08:11
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dasKreechraquel: yuo have it installed on both computers?08:11
Daisuke_Laptopheehee08:11
raquellet me make sure int's onnnnnn my dads08:11
Daisuke_Laptopthankya dasKreech :P08:11
raquelBRB08:11
Daisuke_Laptophowever, in rechristening my laptop, i remembered i haven't caught any strongbad emails recently...08:12
dasKreechDaisuke_Laptop: call it .com08:13
frbcnet owns that08:13
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hgarciahey pplz08:18
raquelnow that computers having some issue - this will take a few minutes08:18
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dasKreechraquel: Well you can test it out08:20
dasKreechraquel: that computer has KDE as well?08:20
raquelYes - but for the AMD6408:20
raquelIt's a newer computer..08:21
raquelBRB again08:21
hgarciaanyone know any good cd ripping software for linux?08:23
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Daisuke_Laptopoh yes08:24
dasKreechk3b08:24
Daisuke_Laptopno08:24
Daisuke_Laptopnot k3b08:24
Daisuke_Laptopcdparanoia08:24
raquelBACK - ok we have ssh on both computers08:24
Daisuke_Laptopor alternatively, one of its frontends08:24
dasKreechraquel: well open konqueror and put in fish://ip.add.re.ss08:24
dasKreechfor the remote computer08:24
Daisuke_Laptopksoundcreator08:25
hgarciacdparanoia?08:25
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raquel(that one no has a certificate for the ssh Apache2 server08:25
Daisuke_Laptophgarcia: secure cd ripping08:25
dasKreechif you want to login as someone you can do fish://user@ip.add.re.ss08:25
hgarciawhat do you mean by secure?08:25
frbugh, restricted-manager just crashed08:25
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raquelCould not connect to host ip.add.re.ss.08:26
Daisuke_Laptopi mean it doesn't just do a burst copy and say it's good08:26
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Daisuke_Laptopraquel: ...08:26
Daisuke_Laptopput in the ip of the other pc :)08:26
raqueldo do I need to turn ssh on?08:26
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raquelerm whre 'fish:// here /08:26
dasKreechraquel: ssh is on already08:27
Daisuke_Laptophgarcia: cdparanoia checks what it copies instead of just throwing bits at the hard drive and keeping whatever sticks :)08:27
dasKreechraquel: Wha'ts that next question ?08:27
Daisuke_Laptopraquel: if the addy of the other is 192.168.1.4, put that in08:27
Jucato!ripping | hgarcia08:27
ubotuhgarcia: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh08:27
JucatoDaisuke_Laptop: I think K3b use cdparanoia to rip?08:28
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raquelhmm Could not connect to host 192.168.0.10108:28
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raquellet me verify that ones IP...08:29
hgarciacdparanoia is already installed on my pc08:29
Daisuke_LaptopJucato: does it?08:29
Daisuke_Laptopthat would be a plus08:29
JucatoDaisuke_Laptop: I guess it does. it depends on cdparanoia to be installed08:29
Daisuke_Laptopi always just go with a dedicated cd ripper after learning my lesson in windows...  guess i should look into that.08:30
Daisuke_Laptopopen mouth, insert foot, eh?08:30
Jucatowell, it would make sense if those dedicated ripper didn't use the same backend eh? :)08:30
Daisuke_Laptopyes08:31
Daisuke_Laptopbut i came from a windows background, and i'm still adjusting a little08:31
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Daisuke_Laptopi'm almost all the way there :)08:31
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Daisuke_Laptop(i should be, it's been a year)08:31
Jucatowhat's taking you so long?! :)08:31
raquelhate having to run from room to room for this...08:32
dasKreechraquel:  Yeah did you get the IP right ?08:32
raquelI've tried every IP on my router and it will not connect to  any of them08:33
dasKreechraquel: ok quick test08:33
khaije1how can i measure my isp speed?08:33
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dasKreechtype ifconfig on this machine08:33
raquelfish://192.168.2.2.add.re.ss/08:33
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dasKreechraquel: >_<08:34
raquelis that how the line should look on conquror08:34
khaije1i've heard something about dslreports..? any other good options?08:34
dasKreechraquel: just fish://192.168.2.208:34
Jucatokhaije1: http://speedtest.net08:34
frbkhaije1: I use what Jucato just mentioned08:34
khaije1cool, thx guy08:34
khaije1*guys08:34
dasKreechinternetfrog08:34
Jucatoalthough it does require flash....08:35
dasKreechhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNGia7iaD29TdKnYtaQQtiNIqgYp_g08:35
dasKreechGrr08:35
frbI'd rather use flash than java08:35
frband I can't think of a way to do it without one or the other08:35
dasKreechraquel: don't go running off tell me if that works or not08:36
frbwell, activex, but that doesn't really count now does it?08:36
raquelit's wanting a user name and passowrd now :D08:36
dasKreechraquel: ok which machine is that?08:36
dasKreechit wants a user name and password for that machine08:36
raqueland I realize that I only have one user for that machine...08:36
khaije1Jucato: frb: i can't access it, it's at www.speedtest.net right? can ya'll get to it?08:36
raquel:08:36
dasKreechraquel: Well that's the one it wants :)08:36
frbkhaije1: works for me08:37
raquelbut that 'is logged in...08:37
dasKreechraquel: you can make a second user just for guest loggin in purposes08:37
dasKreechraquel: doesn't matter. WOn't hurt it08:37
khaije1frb: are you entering it w/ or w/o the www. ?08:37
Jucatoworks both ways for me08:37
raquelhmm it won't log in08:38
dasKreechraquel: try fish://username@192.168.2.208:38
khaije1hmm, kay, thanks, this is interesting I've never really tested out the 1x connection on my cell before08:38
frbkhaije1: oh, it will be 64k08:38
frbsprint cdma is 64k/64k08:39
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khaije1frb: i'm on vzw08:39
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khaije1oh well, just having irc again is good enough for now heheh08:40
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frodakhello08:42
raquelmade 2nd user08:42
raquelit's taking a while to log in tho - erm hang on08:42
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frb!compiz-fusion08:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:43
dasKreechraquel: you can do a quick test on the command line if you like08:43
xgod069interesting hey stdin are u still there08:44
raquelok that IP was THIS computer - not that on ..08:44
raquelagh08:44
dasKreechraquel: ha ha08:45
dasKreechraquel: can you login as the user for this computer?08:45
raquelyeah08:45
raquelthat was funny08:46
raquel:D08:46
xgod069das got a question on WoW problems with Kubuntu, ive looked through the site info on it but canot find an answer there08:46
Daisuke_Laptopyou won't find it on WoW's site08:46
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Daisuke_Laptopmaybe winehq.com08:46
xgod069not on a wow site :P08:46
dasKreechraquel: are you ok now?08:46
raquelso the problem is on that computer - how can I tell if ssh is running or not08:46
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dasKreechraquel: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start08:47
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raquelit wn't start - no error message just fail08:51
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dasKreechraquel: Hmm did it have an error message when it installed?08:53
raquelno but it attached itself to the apache server ..08:53
raqueland he hasn't made the web page for the server yet ..08:54
dasKreechreally?08:54
xgod069anyone know how i install or get ahold of mozilla active x control08:54
dasKreechhow do you know that it attached to apache?08:54
raquelyeah - I can't past that though - it's a really long thing and on ahis computer08:54
raquelI'' have to log in her from there t oaste that08:55
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dasKreechraquel: so it fails when you try to start it ...08:55
dasKreechno error message08:55
omark08:55
dasKreechsudo dpkg --reconfigure ssh08:56
dasKreechTry that and see08:56
omarmmm...08:56
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smorgHi!08:58
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xgod069anyone know how i install or get ahold of mozilla active x control for kubuntu08:59
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raquelyeah!!!! I'm logged into that one and that one is logged into this one :D09:00
raquelit took me into the home folder :D09:00
hangthedj_serverxgod069, i think active x is only on windows, you could try installing mozilla or firefox through wine09:00
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xgod069that might work leme try it09:01
Jucatoxgod069: might want to ask the #winehq guys09:01
dasKreechraquel: Yep you can actually loginto anywhere you  want but the home folder is default09:02
raquelTHANKS everyone =- especially <dasKreech>09:02
dasKreech!helpersnack | dasKreech09:02
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dasKreechHi smorg09:02
Jucato!helpersnack | dasKreech09:02
ubotudasKreech: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!09:02
dasKreechwelcome to Kubuntu09:02
smorgyay09:03
raquel!helpersnack|dasKreech09:03
JucatodasKreech: ubotu doesn't like giving cookies to beggars :P09:03
hangthedj_serverxgod069, i would agree with Jucato, ask the winehq people first.09:03
dasKreechJucato: not in public at least09:03
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JucatodasKreech: aw.. what's the use of helpersnack if *they* can't see it? :P09:03
xgod069beggers09:04
xgod069who's begging i was simply asking09:04
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Jucatoxgod069: huh?09:04
raquelok so now I'm tire and will work on sharing viop over this ne\twork tommorow :D09:04
dasKreechxgod069: I was begging09:04
dasKreechraquel: You are a busy bee09:04
Jucatoxgod069: no one was referring to you (except about the wine/active x question)09:04
dasKreechraquel: I guess I'll see more of you then09:04
raquelthere is a lot I want to get done09:05
xgod069it's for WoW reason's09:05
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xgod069every time i try to run the game it ask for Mozilla active x control09:05
Jucatoxgod069: yeah. the #winehq people know a lot more about Wine09:05
raquelprobaly see my dad - as most of what needs to be done he'll understand better than I do..09:05
raquelany gnite every one09:05
khaije1anyone know how to add a2dp to linux?09:06
Jucatoxgod069: that "beggars" wasn't for you anyway09:06
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xgod069>.< i'm so confused,09:06
dasKreechNight raquel!09:06
dasKreechxgod069: I was begging for a cookie09:07
dasKreechor something :)09:07
xgod069i just wanna play wow and i have no window's based system to run it from =/09:07
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dasKreechno need to worry09:07
dasKreechJucato: thanks09:07
Jucatoxgod069: um.. that's why we're saying that you can most probably get more help from the people in #winehq because I believe WoW only runs on Linux through Wine09:08
frbwell, on the bright side... my unknown video card now gives me 1680x1050@32bpp09:08
frbmy unknown sound card seems to be doing fine09:08
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frbmy unknown sata controller is working out alright as well09:08
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xgod069ok how do i go about connecting to winehq because it's been about 3 years seince i used irc on RS09:09
Jucatoxgod069: just click on the channel name in the sentences09:09
Jucatoor type /j #winehq09:09
hangthedj_serverxgod069, you could try cedaga also.09:09
hangthedj_serverbut you have to pay for that.09:10
xgod069=/ gah i'm just so tired, and wanna get on wow agian. stupid computer's crashing >.<09:11
xgod069hopefully someone will finnally answer me on #winehq09:11
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scheurihi all (or good morning to those in CET and GMT)09:18
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erik-kHi09:18
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holycowtest09:21
erik-kI just had a few problems installing kubuntu on my parent's computer... anyone actually at their terminal ;)09:24
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Lynoureerik-k: just ask :)09:24
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erik-kfirst thing was, it seems to automatically drop the bootloader on /dev/hda09:25
erik-kso when we installed/tried to boot from hdc, it went rather poorly...09:25
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(level1/#kubuntu) okay, I got a beep10:18
level1I think it was the same beep as before when I removed the graphics card10:18
level1it was pretty shrill though10:18
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MaxdamantusLol. I was playing music on it through a stereo amplifier.10:19
erik-klevel1: shot into the dark... is it an ecs elitegroup mobo?10:19
smorgwow this is very puzzling10:19
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level1erik-k: asus p5b plus10:19
smorgwhy can't konquorer resolve anything??10:19
erik-kpoo10:20
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level1smorg: its a funny browser10:20
level1smorg: I really wish it could use gecko10:20
smorgi'm obviously connected since i'm talking to you10:20
LordBaconI crashed adept10:20
Maxdamantussmorg, try "host google.com", in a shell.10:20
smorgdns obviously works since i connected to freenode using irc.freenode10:20
smorg><10:20
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MaxdamantusIt might've been cached.10:21
level1erik-k: its not working10:21
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level1erik-k: this is freaking me out right now10:21
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erik-ksmorg: maybe konq got set to use a proxy?10:21
ugahasan: lsof |grep lock10:21
smorg205.188.146.14510:21
smorgnope normal connection10:22
ugahasan: that should show what process is supposedly having the lock file open10:22
LordBaconwhere is the adept lockfile?10:22
Maxdamantus/var/lib/dpkg/lock10:22
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smorgyep google is 64.233.169.9910:22
erik-klevel1: so it's not beeping at all now?10:22
level1erik-k: nope10:22
LordBaconI deleted that, but I still get told that another process is locking the package db10:22
ksivajiis there anyone who installed openchrome10:22
kaminix|benkyouHello. I have an album ripped as one big .flac-file and one .cue file. How can I split the flac up as multiple flacs with one for each song?10:23
level1erik-k: it turns on and sounds like its doing a normal boot, but the monitor doesn't come out of sleep?10:23
smorgand konquorer won't connect with just an ip entered either10:23
smorgmessed up10:23
smorgtime to download firefox10:23
LordBaconsmorg: do you have knetworkmanager running?10:23
smorgyes10:23
MaxdamantusFirefox ftw.10:23
smorgidk what it does yet10:23
LordBaconsmorg: big broken network icon in your taskbar?10:23
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erik-klevel1: if it got shipped with the hard drives loose, they could have hit the board hard enough to break traces on it...10:23
ugasmorg: how about wget10:23
smorgyep10:23
LordBaconsmorg: right click, quit10:23
LordBaconsmorg: then konq will start working10:24
MaxdamantusI find FF2 a bit glitchy on Linux.. But Gran Paradiso is awesome.10:24
level1erik-k: well, the board itself was out of the pci slot10:24
ugaoh heh10:24
smorg@lord: I love you10:24
level1erik-k: it was like at the bottom of the case10:24
LordBaconsmorg: I discovered that one today10:24
smorg:-)10:24
ugasmorg: you should arrange an out of irc meeting. irc love sucks10:24
erik-klevel1: wait, I'm not entirely clear what happened... how was it prepared for shipping?10:25
level1erik-k: well, I put it in the box that the case came it10:25
level1erik-k: with the styrofoam cradle10:26
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erik-klevel1: but if you didn't take the internal components apart, then how did the hard drives get out of order?10:26
smorggreat now i can start reading up10:26
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MaxdamantusI read down.10:27
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erik-klevel1: I was thinking that they were loose and bouncing around inside the case during shipping10:27
MaxdamantusActually, on roads you read up, where it says "GIVE WAY"10:27
smorgwhy does everything look nicer than on windows10:27
level1erik-k: well, the hard drive bay was warped and the drives were all in a weird way10:27
smorgthe whole gui seems to be anti-aliased10:27
smorgand text10:27
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LordBaconI wish everything was AA10:27
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level1erik-k: so I removed them, and put them back in, but I forgot the order10:27
smorglinux has some equivilant to cleartype maybe?10:28
level1erik-k: anyway, if I can't get the boot screen to come up the hard drives are irrelevant10:28
erik-ksmorg: KDE control center -> appearance -> fonts, it has a box for AA10:28
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LordBaconcan I copy consolas and calibri from vista to linux?10:28
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level1smorg: if your on a lcd monitor use sub pixel hinting10:28
smorgcrt10:29
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smorgeven webpages look like they are rendered more smoothly10:29
smorglol yea, on windows cleartype (which is subpixel rendering) looks like butt10:29
level1erik-k: is there anything I can still do besides cry?10:31
erik-kMust... not... throw lcd vs crt... grenade...10:31
erik-klevel1: if they banged it hard enough to warp the drive bay, i don't know10:32
smorgheh, password strength meter10:32
smorgnice feature10:32
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erik-kError: Your password is based on the transliterated names of ancient Egyptian pharohs.10:32
MaxdamantusRamsey?10:33
smorgtakes letters numbers and special chars to fill it up10:33
MaxdamantusOh. Ramases is a transliteration isn't it?10:33
erik-kEh, I just figure that's the kind of thing that passwd would come up with10:33
MaxdamantusSince no one knows how to speak the ancient egyption language.10:33
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ugaanyone knows where thunderbird stores the local folders?10:34
ugaafter migrating the box and copying the home files over, I still don't see them there10:34
Maxdamantusuga, look at settings.10:34
smorghow is konquor compared to ff as a browser?10:34
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Maxdamantussmorg, the only thing I like over Konq is that it uses QT in web pages. :(10:35
MaxdamantusLike with Konq over Firefox*10:35
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smorgso you like konq better?10:35
MaxdamantusNo, I like FF better.10:36
smorghm10:36
MaxdamantusWell, actually Gran Paradiso.10:36
smorgneeds torbutton and noscript10:36
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erik-ksmorg: I admit I'm biased, but konq usually seems to be much lighter on resources.10:36
smorgfor sure10:36
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smorgat minimum10:36
MaxdamantusGran Paradiso fixes up most of the GUI interface glitches.10:36
MaxdamantusAnd it also seems to use less memory.10:36
smorgalthough i guess it has a relativly convienient proxy switch by default10:36
ugaMaxdamantus: uhm,... nothing there10:36
smorgso torbutton is eh10:36
erik-kBut I have FF too for the last 2% of websites that Konqueror mutilates10:37
smorgo yea?10:37
dhq!schedule10:37
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases10:37
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ugaoh, there you are...  .thunderbird/????????.default/Mail/Local Folders/10:37
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smorgI wish i could be put into a medically induced coma til december10:38
ugabut it seems to refuse loading them10:38
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smorgalright i've gotta read up on mounting ntfs partitions now (if possible)10:38
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Maxdamantussmorg, easy peasy.10:38
MaxdamantusOh, thought you said nfs.10:39
smorgfigured it would be a necessary feature10:39
erik-kI know they can be read, but I think writing is a risky kernel patch10:39
Maxdamantuserik-k, the Ubuntu kernel can already read ntfs.10:39
smorgoh really? it doesn't go too smoothly?10:39
MaxdamantusI used it to copy some music over from my cousin's HD, and it was fine.10:39
smorgwouldn't want to risk corrupting it10:39
MaxdamantusI havn't needed to try write though.10:39
dhqis gusty gonna be released with kde410:40
MaxdamantusWhich uses ntfs-3g10:40
erik-kI know reading is fine, I did that just today...10:40
smorgno they pushed back the release date for kde a few months10:40
smorgso i would imagine not10:40
smorgwhich was already a few weeks after the scheduled release for gusty as i recall10:40
ugaMaxdamantus: ah, found the way... on the new thunderbird version, right click on local folders, properties... and it'll show where it's supposed to work10:41
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erik-kI figure if there's an entire project (linux-ntfs.org) for it, it's not perfect yet10:41
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ugadekc: just ask, don't ask for asking =)12:43
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dekci can't hear sounds12:44
ugadekc: run "kmix"12:44
ugayou'll get a speaker icon besides the clock12:44
gary_can anyone tell me what's the correct driver to install for nvidia fx 5200 ?  glx, legacy, or new?12:44
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dekci know that12:44
dekcbut nothing12:44
ugadekc: click on it, press mixer12:45
ugadekc: is pcm out and everything not silenced?12:45
dekcspeaker is already at full12:45
ugaand the green leds on top?12:45
ugaare they on?12:45
dekcyes12:46
dekci've got also this12:46
dekcerror12:46
dekcalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device12:46
ugauh12:46
ugano soundcard found?12:46
dekcand i can only hear music with amarok12:46
dekcbut can't change volume12:46
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dekcthe soundcard is on mobo12:46
ugaoh, so it just couldn't find the mixer12:47
dekcbut i have a soundcard12:47
ugadekc:12:47
ugauga@dpcuga:~$ ls -ld /dev/mixer12:47
ugacrw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 2007-09-21 06:06 /dev/mixer12:48
ugadekc: can you see something like that?12:48
maverickhey how do i know if my current kernel isusing my duo core capabilities12:48
maverickyou know CPU1 and CPU2 ??12:48
ugamaverick: cat /proc/cpuinfo12:48
dekcdev/mixer no file or directory12:48
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maverickuga: thnx12:48
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maverickjoin /superkaramba12:49
ugadekc: the soundcard driver either isn't loaded, or ... if it is, it doesn't support mixer on your soundcard12:49
mavericksorry12:49
ugadekc: do you know what's the soundcard model?12:49
ugamaverick: sorry, but I won't join ;)12:49
dekcit's iontegrted on the motherboard12:49
dekcit's an asus12:49
ugadekc: yes, but they all have a model =)12:49
ugadekc: what asus board?12:49
dekcm2n-e sli12:49
maverickuga: hey, that's not air..i really didn't mean that :D12:49
maverickfair*12:49
dekcm2n-e sli12:50
gary_which is correct driver for nvidia fx5200 in feisty? nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, or nvidia-glx-new?12:50
dekcis there a command like lspci to see the correct model of the motherboard12:50
dekc?12:50
ugadekc: just in case... my asus includes audio drivers12:50
ugaon the CD12:50
ugadid you get some too?12:51
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dekci bought it yesterday12:51
dekcand the cd's are at my friends house12:51
dekcbut isnt' it for win?12:51
ugaokay, found it12:51
ugaAudio Chipset / Sound Card   On-board C-Media CM650112:51
ugadekc: no, there's linux drivers too on my CD (For the p5k)12:51
ugaat least for the ide thing12:52
ugaand I recall seeing an audio dir12:52
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dekcnow i have to install it?12:52
dekcor what12:52
dekc?12:52
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ugadekc: if they have linux drivers, possibly it'd help12:54
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ugaI cant' find any info on what driver supports your soundcard, on google12:54
dekcand sorry for the question but if not what should i do??12:54
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ugadekc: "There is a problem using this sound chip CM6501 with ALSA versions older than 1.0.14. All you have to do is remove the package alsa-base and download and install the latest (experimental) package of ALSA version 1.0.14."12:55
ugafrom a suse forum12:55
ugathat refers to an rpm forum ;)12:55
dekccan i install rpms?12:56
ugadekc: no12:56
dekcdoh12:56
ugakubuntu uses alsa 1.0.1312:56
dekc:(12:56
dekccan i compile from a tar.gz12:56
ugayou might install alsa from sources, or update to gutsy12:56
ugayes12:56
dekci see on alsa there are many files12:56
dekci know to compile but only12:57
dekcif it's tar.gz or bz212:57
dekcor can i use alien to convert rpm to deb12:57
dekc?12:57
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ugadekc: there's prebuilt packages for kubuntu gutsy12:58
ugabut not sure if those are safe to be installed on a feisty box12:58
dekccan cause problems12:58
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dekcor just don't work?12:58
ugajust not work or break other packs12:58
ugadekc: you can install it from kubuntu sources12:58
ugadekc: as it's described here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html12:59
gary_can anyone answer a quick question for me?  trying to install Nvidia FX 5200 in Feisty; is the driver nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, or the  new?12:59
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ugadekc: you'd need to make apt-get use the gutsy sources though01:00
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ugaso that would download the latest version01:00
ugathen it'd rebuild the package for your system and install it01:00
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dekcis this package avaible on getdeb?01:01
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dekcnope01:02
dekcit will be realesd 1.0.14 on feisty??01:03
ugadekc: possibly not. gutsy is in beta stage to be released some time soon...01:04
ugayou could request a backport though01:04
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dekcis there some problems if i do apt-get distro upgrade?01:04
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dekcwhen it's official gutsy01:04
JucatoOct. 200701:05
dekck thx but01:05
ugadekc: your solution http://falcon.landure.fr/dists/feisty/alsa/01:05
gary_cough cough01:06
dekcthx much uga01:06
dekcit's this01:06
dekcalsa-base_1.0.14-1ubuntu1_all.deb01:06
dekc?01:06
dekcno01:06
dekci'm wrong01:07
dekcit's repo01:07
ugaI believe it's alsa-driver thing you need to install, but possibly all of them01:07
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ugajust add the sources list, and upgrade01:07
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dekconly add to sources01:07
ugait should add them all01:07
ugayes01:07
dekcand update01:07
ugayes01:07
dekcand then upgrade01:07
dekci think its right01:07
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ilonahi01:07
Repsa_Jihhey01:07
gary_what01:07
dekcnow i try i tell you after if worked01:08
ilonai installed the kde4 beta packages and want to fully replace my kde3 with kde4 - how would i go about that?01:08
dekcthanks again01:08
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srednamy konsole is broken01:09
srednapipes doesn't work01:09
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srednaxterm too01:09
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srednathat is, the system01:10
TunaTomilona: Have you looked at the current kde4.0 version? Are you sure you want to completely replace kde3 ?01:10
srednawhat did you do to it?01:10
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ilonaTunaTom, this is a playground partition, so i don't mind breaking stuff or reverting to cli in case stuff goes boom01:10
ilonaTunaTom, my main goal is to have the 'full' kde4 experience01:10
TunaTomilona: Do you have a kdm-entry for kde4? That would perhaps be the first step.01:11
srednaisnt bash supposed to print the output of COMMAND to STDOUT in a command like "dosomething|COMMAND"???01:11
srednait doesn't01:11
ilonaTunaTom, on it01:12
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ilonaTunaTom, neat, thanks01:14
TunaTomilona: I didn't do anything, did I?01:15
srednaah, wrong order :S01:15
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TunaTomsredna: Like "ps xa | grep init" ? Output of ps into grep?01:15
ilonaTunaTom, well, you reminded me about reading about the kdm session blurb on kubuntu.org01:16
TunaTomlol01:16
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ilonaTunaTom, that was all i needed :)01:17
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TunaTomyou're welcome :)01:17
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enjoi1216hey whats is up room01:17
enjoi1216??01:17
enjoi1216hey whats up Kaminix01:18
enjoi1216is anybody awake in this room01:19
enjoi1216??01:19
TunaTomenjoi1216: Hi.01:19
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enjoi1216hey whats up tom01:20
enjoi1216hey tom why is it the more you use linux the more you end up loving it i mean that is just strange01:20
ilonathe kde4 experience seems rather limited, atm :/01:20
ilonaat least my widgets do not work01:20
enjoi1216whats going on ilona01:21
TunaTomilona: Yes, that's true. Did you build from svn or install the kde4.0 beta2 packages?01:21
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ilonathe clock shows a section of a clock face in its upper left section01:21
enjoi1216hey tom is it possible to get support for any of the earlier linux operating systems01:21
enjoi1216??01:21
ilonaall the rest is 'could not load file' or this little icon telling you it could not fin images01:21
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ilonaTunaTom, beta201:21
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enjoi1216ilona01:22
enjoi1216what is up01:22
TunaTomilona: It's more a technical preview than anything you can actually use fulltime atm.01:22
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KartiHi all, I would like to set up a DNS server on my LAMP server so that I can access MySql using a host name. Does someone have any pointers? Thanks01:22
ilonaTunaTom, yah, i know. i still hoped it would have more than _this_ :p01:22
ilonai know it is not even a stable techbase to design and build stuff against, yet01:22
enjoi1216goodnight is everyone too good in here to talk to me this morning or what ??01:22
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ilonastill, all those screencasts made me expect more01:23
enjoi1216it seems like i'm ignored this morning01:23
TunaTomenjoi1216: What do you think you get as an answer when asking "What's up"? "Nothing"?01:23
ilonaenjoi1216, you are not. it's just that you did not really ask anything that requires an answer01:23
ilonaand yes, i suspect you can get support for older kubuntu releases in here01:24
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enjoi1216 asked about the earlier versions of linux and i need to know about the Kubuntu fiesty fawn 7.04 weather it's full version software or not01:24
ilonaKarti, i think it would be best if you described, in detail, what the end result should be01:24
ilonaKarti, i fear you are confusing some things01:25
enjoi1216but see i have the linux mandrake 8.1 and it's hard to get anything on it01:25
TunaTomenjoi1216: If you want the _really_ old stuff, the ancient stuff, like linux-kernel 0.1, you can find it in the usenet.01:25
ilonaenjoi1216, if you mean the kde weather applet, yes that is full software01:25
TunaTomnixternal? #kde-docs?01:25
ilonaTunaTom, does svn have many improvements over beta2?01:26
enjoi1216well really tom Linux Mandrake 8.1 is not that old of a software when you really look at it01:26
enjoi1216because i don't think it was realeased until like 01 or 0201:26
Kartiilona: I have a LAMP server up and running, with a working MySQL database. I would like to access it using another workstation (kubuntu) using the installed MySQL client. When I join it I would like to join it by using its Host name rather than an IP address. It is all part of a home network with a01:26
TunaTomilona: Of course. But still I doubt one would use it as fulltime replacement.01:26
Kartiilona: router that I currently have forgotten the password for ;(01:27
TunaTomenjoi1216: I don't think you find many supporters of Mandrake in #kubuntu :)01:27
enjoi1216Karti thats like the most intelligent and awesome comment01:27
Kartienjoi1216: :)01:28
enjoi1216about you talking about your networking01:28
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KartiEneloop: Yes01:28
Kartienjoi1216: Oops ....Yes01:28
enjoi1216yeah but you still can't knock it though because there are a lot of people that still love Mandrake stuff01:28
ilonaKarti, i would suggest using /etc/hosts instead. that is easy, quick and requires no other setup01:28
Kartiilona: does that just equate the host to IPaddress?01:29
ilonaTunaTom, nah, full time replacement is not really an option, atm. but as this partition is just a playground, i don't mind driving it into the wall01:29
ilonaKarti, aye01:29
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TunaTomilona: Use kdesvn-build if you don't mind waiting 5 hours or more for the initial build.01:29
bernhi01:29
bernany help in syncing a pocketpc with kontact?01:30
ilonaTunaTom, it's my gf's laptop, she has to decide that :p01:30
TunaTomilona: That way you already know what has happened before the weekly commit digest :)01:30
TunaTomilona: even better: you don't occupy your own box but someone else's :D01:30
Kartiilona: Thank you that would be perfect, using it as a static host :) Would I also have to do anything with regards letting me connect to the LAMP server (off the top of your head?)01:31
ilonaTunaTom, but i doubt she would01:31
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TunaTomilona: well, then you won't have much more than the commit digest before the end of october01:32
crazy_busI'm running edgy and I tried to install a deb from getdeb meant for edgy.  It said it needed newer versions of dependencies than it could get, but it still runs.  Is there any way to tell apt-get not to remove it everytime I try and install something new?01:34
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Insane`KDEHmm.01:35
Insane`KDEI can't seem to find the specs of my graphics card in kubuntu.01:35
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Insane`KDEMainly I'm edging to know wether it supports Pixel Shaders 2 or not01:38
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LjLwhat would you suggest in order to make KDE use a custom spell-checker for its spell-checking component?01:41
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ilonaKarti, no, it will just work01:41
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murmulishello people have heard about ubuntu ultimate gamers edition?01:41
LjL(what i'm attempting to do is to make it guess which language is being used, via programs such as mguesser, since there's no way to select a specific language aside from changing the global setting)01:41
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ugamurmulis: and what does it run... vista? =)01:43
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dolphin_hello! How I can install russian language on Gimp on my Kubuntu system?01:50
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murmulisthere is one way to set language in aplication.01:51
murmulisyou mean that you could write in english01:51
murmulistb russian01:51
enrico_hello01:52
enrico_i ' ve a simply question01:52
enrico_i' ve installed kubuntu01:52
enrico_and all works ok, chat, internet, etc01:52
enrico_but i can' t go in internet with konqueror01:52
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enrico_it tells me that it cannot reach homepage01:53
enrico_for example www.google.com01:53
fdovingenrico_: quit network manager if you don't use it.01:53
smorgyep solved that one tonight myself01:54
enrico_what?01:54
enrico_how can i do that?01:54
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Jucatooh, hi fdoving! long time :)01:54
smorgbroken network icon in the lower left corner01:54
smorgright click & quit01:54
enrico_i closed it, but still i have this problem01:55
smorgNot a dns issue since ur on irc & probably didn't type in freenode's ip01:55
fdovinghi jucato :)01:55
smorghm01:55
enrico_ah no01:55
enrico_sorry01:55
enrico_i solved01:55
enrico_thank you very much01:55
smorgtry host www.google.com01:55
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enrico_solution was very simple01:55
smorg:-)01:55
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deichgraf6ola01:55
enrico_thank you very much01:55
ugayou connected the rj45 plug? :P01:55
enrico_:-)01:55
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dolphin_Where in Gimp applecation I can change language? I can't find...02:00
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ugauhm... is there a way to tell what packages don't exist in the repositories anymore?02:02
ugaI'm planning on a feisty->gutsy upgrade, but I'd like to ditch all those that don't exist in gutsy (yet)02:03
ugaso that I don't end up with some old deprecated packages02:03
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uga!gutsy02:06
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:06
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Ryiel!dvd02:08
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:08
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dekchi uga02:09
ugawb dekc02:09
dekcthx for all but nothing works02:09
dekcbut i found the driver02:09
dekcon asus website02:09
probshi everyone.02:09
dekcand when i try to run it02:09
dekcit tells me02:09
dekcno precompiled kernel found02:10
dekc:|???02:10
dekcand stops02:10
dekcwhat should i do?02:10
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dekcdo i have to compile the kernel?02:11
dekcto install that drivers?02:11
probswonder if anyone can offer any advice on my probs burning dvds02:11
ugauhm... nobody knows how to remove orphan packages?????02:12
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ugathere ought to be a way in apt-get :/02:12
probssorry uga, i dont know how....i dont suppose u know anyting about problems burning dvds...? lol02:13
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ugaprobs: ask the question and somebody may answer. Don't ask to ask ;))02:13
dekcyou can burn a dvd using k3b02:13
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contrast83uga: apt-get autoremove --purge02:14
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mikehello02:14
ugacontrast83: oh, I just found a page that mentioned sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove purge02:14
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probsthnx uga k3b wont do it, neither will  gnomebaker or whateverits called02:14
ugacontrast83: thanks. So there's no need to use deborphan anymore02:14
contrast83deborphan will potentially also get rid of stuff you want if you don't watch it like a hawk.02:15
ugauhm okay02:15
probsi get the same error from both02:15
contrast83uga: i hear aptitude's better at cleaning up unneeded crap than apt-get. i've been switching over to that the past few days and i'm liking it so far02:15
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probsWRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=27h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error02:16
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probsgoogling that only turns up 3 results, none of em really have an answer.02:16
contrast83uga: deborphan *might* still come in handy once in a while, but imo, it's largely unnecessary so long as you uninstall things with the same program you installed them with02:17
ugaI may use it after the cleanup to see if there's anything "left"02:17
probstho one page suggests that the prob might originate from using ext3 fs... which i use02:17
ugacontrast83: I just cant' undestand how it can be so hard to diff repos and dpkg list and see what's gone02:18
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contrast83uga: ?02:18
ugacontrast83: it's the only thing that the app needs to do. get a list of what's on the repository, check what's installed, and remove the differences02:18
ugawhat is installed yet not on the repo list02:19
ugaI don't see the complexity on it to say one tool fails doing it right02:19
contrast83uga: erm02:19
contrast83that's a bad idea02:19
ugawell, ignoring those that only come from the installer CD ;)02:19
contrast83what about apps downloaded from the web, or things no longer in the repos that one still wants02:19
ugacontrast83: well, that's up to me ;)02:20
contrast83sorry for my bluntness, been up nearly 36 hours02:20
contrast83uga: i think aptitude has a function for what you're suggesting though02:20
ugaget a rest... you'll end up like me. Either a nasty cold or a flu, not sure02:20
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contrast83uga: man aptitude - one of the more helpful man pages i've read02:21
ugasure, but aptitude won't help much after I installed everything through apt-get, right?02:21
contrast83uga: well, i've already got pink eye, so it can't get too much worse02:21
uga=)02:21
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contrast83uga: right. but i *think* you can tell it to uninstall packages that aren't available in the repos02:21
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probshas anyone else experienced problems burning dvds when hds are ext3?02:26
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dekc0 problems02:28
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fdovingprobs: ext3 is most likely not the problem. in any case.02:29
probsyeah...thing is i dont think ive ever had problems in the past, and i think i was using ext3 for on my previous install....02:29
probsya i wouldntve thot of so, but its the only clue, as i said, beign suggested as the source02:30
probsof one guys prob02:30
probsin the limited results i found when searchin that error message02:30
probsi cant track down much about dvd burning probs...02:31
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contrast83!enter02:32
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:32
contrast83:-)02:32
probsand i have no idea where to start looking for myself.02:32
probsno prob.02:32
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ugacontrast83: oh, I didn't02:32
ugacontrast83: know02:32
ugacontrast83: there was..02:32
contrast83whoops02:32
ugacontrast83: such rules ;))02:32
contrast83sorry02:32
ugakidding02:32
contrast83about that02:32
contrast83:-P02:32
probslol02:33
probscan anyone offer some advice on where i should look for the source of the problem?02:33
probspretty vague, as questions go, but...?02:34
ugaprobs: have you tried on the command line, using something like cdrecord?02:34
ugaand using root. I wonder if it's some permissions problem02:34
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probsi havent tries anything on commadline, but i tried k3b as root and same error.02:35
contrast83erm... wth. my lag's at 24 seconds o_O02:35
ugacontrast83: rocked? rooted? rated?02:35
contrast83rated is close02:36
ugacontrast83: you're not in the channel. You got disconnected. We cannot read you. That's why 24s lag02:36
ugaoups, silly me, now he knows we read him ;)02:36
contrast83and incidentally, it's also the only one whose # of letters in the middle match the # of asterices :-P02:37
contrast83or is it asterisks?02:37
probsnext thing i will do is try on cmdline.  thanks for yourtime.02:37
contrast83figuring out how to burn cd's from the command line has been on my to-do list way too long02:37
ugaouch, he left :/02:38
ugacontrast83: cdrecord is plain simple02:38
contrast83thanks, i'll have a look at its man page when i'm actually coherent enough to understand it02:39
wersdaluvhow do I remove the date from my kicker?02:39
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contrast83wersdaluv: right-click -> Configure Clock02:39
Jucatowersdaluv: ^^^02:39
contrast83wersdaluv: Are you on an old Mac? :-D02:40
ugacontrast83: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw image.iso02:40
ugacontrast83: that's simple, right?02:40
wersdaluvit's not there contrast83, i have tried that already02:40
wersdaluvhi boss Jucato02:40
ugait'll complain you shouldn't use /dev/ device pointers, but don't care. It works and it's supported ;P02:40
wersdaluvsorry contrast83!02:41
wersdaluvI saw it already02:41
contrast83wersdaluv: You unchecked Date under Display in the dialog there?02:41
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contrast83wersdaluv: np02:41
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wersdaluvsorry.. visually challenged02:41
wersdaluvheheh02:41
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contrast83oh, it's glasses. heh. for a second i thought he needed a two-button mouse. :-P02:42
contrast83j/k02:42
wersdaluvI'm not on a mac contrast8302:42
wersdaluvhehe02:42
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Jucatocontrast83: where we live, owning a Mac is a privilege that only a very few have02:42
wersdaluvalthough I want to have one02:42
wersdaluvhehe02:42
contrast83wersdaluv: i figured. just a bad joke02:42
Jucato:)02:42
ugaJucato: owning a mac isn't a privilege. I hope for a mac for all my worst enemies02:43
contrast83if it weren't for everything Apple represents to me, i'd want one too02:43
ugathey just s*****ck02:43
Jucatoymmv02:43
wersdaluvI want a mac... hardware02:43
ugasick, I mean ;)02:43
Jucatoanyway, let's not get into that02:43
ugaJucato: I've seen a mac lappie broken 3-4 times in 6 months. Taken to shop several times for fixing.... keyboard, power supply, monitor...02:44
ugaplastic piece02:44
Jucatowersdaluv: you can reclaim your nick now :)02:44
uga /msg NickServ ghost wers werspassword <-- would have done quicker02:45
wersdaluvyou know why I wanted to remove the date from my kicker? my kicker's size is small now.. so windows-like even I hate it but I think having a taskbar with only one row just works better02:45
wersdaluvwow... uga knows my real nick02:45
wersdaluvhehehe02:45
ugayour password, you mean? ;)02:46
Jucatoelementary my dear wersdaluv, elementary02:46
wersdaluv<-- just started using IRC since... last week i think02:46
ugawersdaluv: get your nick(s) registered and if multiple, linked02:47
uga type /query NickServ02:47
ugaand then /help02:47
wersdaluvok.. will do that sir :)02:48
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ugawersdaluv:  sorry, just "help", without "/"02:48
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ugawersdaluv: if you type "help register", it will show how to use register command02:49
ugaetc02:49
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wersdaluvohh.. thanks02:49
wersdaluvam on NickServ now02:49
Jucato!register02:50
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:50
Jucatoactually on freenode it's simple: /msg nickserv register <password>02:50
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ugawersdaluv: once registered, if you get a ghost nick, or somebody else using your nick, you can kick him out by using the command "ghost" or "recover"02:50
ugawers: you can also have multiple nicks linked each other, wers, wers_out, wers_inluv, wers...02:51
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wersyou know why I use wers instead of wersdaluv? it is much easier to type so that people who want to talk to me wont have a hard time.. hehe02:51
Jucato!tab | wers02:51
ubotuwers: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:51
Jucato:)02:51
ugawers: use modern irc clients :P02:52
werswow.. I'm learning so much02:52
JucatoI can just type "we" and press Tab.02:52
Jucatogood02:52
Jucato:)02:52
dangaiohello. I have installed acidrip. I try to load a dvd and it just hangs... any pointers on how to fix this?02:52
werswow.. so cool02:52
contrast83dangaio: Encrypted DVD?02:53
uga59% [764 cvs 1431392/1699kB 84%]  <-- okay,... more than half done02:53
dangaiocontrast83, any type.02:53
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dangaioIt doesn't matter if it's encrypted or not. It just doesn't load the dvd.02:54
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umarzukihi02:55
umarzukii'd like 2 know how to mount my sata drive02:55
umarzukihard disk02:55
umarzukiit's ext3 format02:56
contrast83dangaio: Anything in particular you like about AcidRip?02:56
dangaiobesides that it's easy to use and I don't have to configure many things like in dvd::rip.02:57
ugaumarzuki: sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt/mydisk02:57
contrast83dangaio: ever tried k9copy?02:57
dangaiono.02:58
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dangaiowill it do protected dvd's? I just convert movies to ipod format for my iPod video.02:58
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contrast83That's the best DVD ripper for Linux IMNSHO02:58
dangaiooh, wait, it's the ipod classic.02:58
contrast83dangaio: I think any ripper will do encrypted discs so long as libdvdcss is installed02:59
dangaiok9copy... ok, is it available through apt-get?02:59
contrast83i believe so02:59
contrast83but umm...02:59
contrast83use aptitude instead. :-)02:59
dangaionever used aptitude.03:00
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ugacontrast83: your choice of preference shouldn't affect other users' tastes ;))03:00
contrast83uga: From what I've seen, usage of apt-get over aptitude isn't so much a matter of taste as it is not realizing there are any significant differences03:01
contrast83That's the only reason it took me so long to switch, at least,.. But yeah, point taken. :-)03:01
ugaI really dislike aptitude's interface as much as to not suggest it03:01
ugathe idea is nice, but the implementation isn't imho03:02
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contrast83uga: are you talking about the ncurses interface, cli, or both?03:02
ugancurses03:02
ugaisn't aptitude about ncurses?03:02
contrast83when you run it w/o any arguments, yeah.03:03
contrast83otherwise it's just as cli-based as apt-get03:03
dangaiocontrast83, I have libdvdcss2 installed. is this alright?03:03
contrast83dangaio: yeah03:03
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dangaiocontrast83, can I convert dvd to avi with k9copy? do you know of any place on the web that will tell me the difference from a dvd9 to dvd5?03:06
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contrast83dangaio: it'll do that, yeah... and dvd9 = dual layer (~8.5GB), dvd5 = single layer (~4.3GB)03:07
contrast83dangaio: most movie dvd's you buy now come on dvd9's03:07
dangaioOk.03:07
dangaionow I get it.03:07
contrast83cool03:08
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code_xhello everyone, i have a problem i just installed ndiswrapper "sudo apt-get install  ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 " and when i try to load the module ndiswrapper it tell me "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."03:23
code_xany help will be welcome03:24
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code_xno sugggestions ?03:26
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wersJucato, I still get "The spelling program could not be started. Please make sure you have set the correct spelling program and that it is properly configured and in your PATH."03:34
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BluesKajHowdy All :)03:37
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nosrednaekimhowdy Grandpa.03:40
BluesKajhehe ...hi nosrednaekim03:40
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BluesKajofftopic but anyone here use NediaMax for Online storage ?03:41
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BluesKajerrMediaMax03:41
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: have you tested Gutsy yet?03:42
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BluesKajyeah, wasn't able to run my fav apps like google earth due to graphics driver probs03:42
BluesKajso reverted to feisty03:43
nosrednaekimah.... you have an ATI right?03:43
BluesKajyup03:43
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wersI do, BluesKaj03:43
BluesKajI don't need a fancy card cuz i don't run games etc03:43
BluesKajwers ,you do03:44
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: odd, ATI works for me, (xpress200/110003:44
wersyep.. mediamax03:44
BluesKajwhat's you ropinion of mediamax , wers?03:44
wersit works for me..03:45
wershehe03:45
BluesKajok03:45
BluesKaj:)03:45
BluesKajnosrednaekim, which driver ?03:45
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: heh... I was dumb enough to try the new ATI driver out..03:45
nosrednaekim(not "supported" on my card)03:45
nosrednaekimthe 8.4103:45
BluesKajmy card is abit odd , it's the X200G , not the X200M ...really dunno what the diff is03:46
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nosrednaekimmessed up libGL, so anything using that totally froze the computer.03:46
dangaiocontrast83, thanks. I am using k9copy now. Let me see how good the avi file looks.03:46
BluesKajok, the 8.41 driver is meant for stand alone pci graphics , is it not ?03:47
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nosrednaekimhmm.03:47
nosrednaekimdesktop for laptop?03:47
nosrednaekim*or03:47
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: M _might_ mean "mobile"03:48
BluesKajwers, what's the max amount of storage allowed on MediaMax Free ?03:48
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wers25GB03:48
epsilornHi all!, I've got a problem with my desktop, Harddisk and DVDicons disappeared and i cannot make them reappear (Even going in Desktop configuration)03:48
BluesKajoh yeah, nosrednaekim ...makes sense ...mine's adesktop03:48
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: its techincally for the R600 chips, but Phoronix reported it work on R4xx, so I tried it out.03:49
nosrednaekimXGL/Beryl was noticably faster..03:49
BluesKajnosrednaekim, did you DL from ATI or a mirror?03:49
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah... thats probably what it is then... don't know what the "G" could stand for though.03:50
nosrednaekimprobably one of those marketing things ;)03:50
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nosrednaekimATI. no, it wasn't corrupted.03:51
dangaiohave anybody had their icons dissapear from the tool bars on all windows?  I don't have any icons on my toolbars and I would like to find them. Please if you find my icons can you send them home or tell me how to find them?03:51
nosrednaekimI had to say my card was a R600 though..03:51
nosrednaekimI switched back to the old driver since.03:51
epsilornI've got only mounted volume icons disappeared03:51
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epsilornprobably noone got the answer, any suggestion?03:52
nosrednaekimI've had that happen ONCE... when I upgraded KDE versions03:53
epsilornyes the same here03:53
nosrednaekimactually, I had just switched distros.03:53
dangaiois there any way to correct this?03:53
epsilornyesterday i've done an upgrade (i've got 7.10)03:53
HamraHelloes to all, this is the first time I run kubuntu, running it from the CD to test it, and i think it is great!03:54
nosrednaekimepsilorn: did you restart KDE?03:54
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epsilorndo you mean reboot or only kde?03:54
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nosrednaekimthe way I did it was erase the .kde... but don't do that03:54
dangaioI was trying to install a screen saver kcometen3 and it required that I install the kde-headers. Once I did, all my icons are gone...03:54
epsilornanyway i've restarted my PC 3 or 4 times03:55
nosrednaekimepsilorn: support for that would be in #ubuntu, although they probably don't have a clue about KDE there.03:55
nosrednaekimumm #ubuntu+103:55
nosrednaekimHamra: cool03:55
epsilornbut nothing changed03:55
epsilorndo you know if kde got an irc channel?03:55
nosrednaekimepsilorn: just kde..03:55
LeeJunFanepsilorn: #kde03:55
nosrednaekimdangaio: odd... can you add them back?03:56
nosrednaekimepsilorn: ok.03:56
epsilornthnks il try there03:56
dangaiono, I have tried and nothing.03:56
BluesKajnosrednaekim, when you chose the driver which card designation did you use cuz all i could get was the 8.40103:56
nosrednaekim#kde03:56
BluesKajprolly cuz I'm still on feisty , I suppose03:57
nosrednaekimI chose one of the new PCI cards.... the top on the list (the newest)03:57
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BluesKajand it works in feisty or gutsy ?03:58
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nosrednaekim(if you meant on the ATI site.)03:58
BluesKajyes03:59
nosrednaekimwell, it INSTALLS on fiesty.... It work if I had an officially supported card no doubt.03:59
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: and make sure you install WITHOUT the debs..03:59
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nosrednaekimjust install straight from the .run (if you do it)04:00
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xiscoginaalguien sabe como configurar impresora en kubuntu04:00
ellipsysMorning ladies and gentlemen... mostly gentlemen...04:00
Dr_willisMoo!04:00
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Dr_willisand Cows. :)04:00
BluesKajright just ./whateverfilename.run04:00
nosrednaekimmorning :)04:00
ellipsys!es04:00
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:00
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BluesKajhey Dr_willis04:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: right.. and don't choose to generate distro-specific packages.04:01
ellipsysYes, Cows too!04:01
nosrednaekimMorning ellipsys04:01
BluesKajwhere would that be , nosrednaekim04:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: that option?04:01
BluesKajdisrt-specifics i mean04:02
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nosrednaekimI think its on the fist page of the dialog.04:02
ellipsysAnyone have an idea why I /couldn't/ mount a couple of USB HDD volumes on fiesty? Seems my USB hard drive is being a pain on this laptop04:02
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Dr_willisellipsys,  try mounting them manually?04:03
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SeanTateralsa will pass through my mic input to my speakers, but whenever I try to record it, I get perfect silence even though my speakers do not agree..04:04
ellipsysDr_willis: Seems to not want to do that... let me get the exact error message. I think it was a timeout04:04
SeanTaterwhy?04:04
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ellipsyshal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100004:05
raoulhi, is there a meta-package to install all the kde development documentation?04:05
Dr_willishal would be an auto mounting error.04:06
ellipsysThey show up in Konq, but attempting to click on them gives me that.04:06
Dr_willisif ya manually try to mount it - it might give a better error message04:06
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=== Dr_willis is not experoenced with troubleshooting hal. :)
ellipsysClicking "Mount" on the right click menu gives me the same thing... so I assume thats just a link to automount too?04:08
nosrednaekimellipsys: correct04:08
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stdinraoul: I think kdesdk-doc-html should get the documentation, if you want all the kde headers etc too then just do "sudo aptitude install kde-devel" and watch the MBs fly04:08
ellipsysMounting it manually probably has to happen from bash then?04:09
raoulperfect, thanks a lot stdin :)04:09
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Dr_willisellipsys,  yes. :) learning to manually mount is a Linux Fundamental.04:09
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nosrednaekimellipsys: yup04:09
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ellipsysAnyone have a tutorial perchance?  I've never had to do so before.04:10
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soonHi folks - I want to intall OpenOffice 2.3 on my 64bit AMD thing - I recon I can get it here : http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m228/Build-1/04:11
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ellipsys!mount04:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:11
nosrednaekim!mount04:11
soonwould that work ?04:11
Dr_willisellipsys,  theres 100's of tutorals on mounting drives the old fashioned way. :) check google.04:12
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HamlonI just modprobed snd-ens1370 and snd-pcm-oss, and now i have no sound, any tips on reversing that?04:12
Dr_willissudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whever  -t filesystem -o options go here.04:12
nosrednaekimrmmod04:12
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nosrednaekimHamlon: rmmod those two04:12
HamlonOk04:13
soonhow do I install a .deb file from BASH?04:13
llutzsoon: sudo dpkg -i package.deb04:13
ellipsys!diskmounter04:13
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse04:13
stdin!deb04:13
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)04:13
ellipsys!fstab04:13
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:13
soonllutz - thx!04:13
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nosrednaekimsoon: sudo dpkg -i <filename>04:14
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HamlonIs there some way to reconfigure the sound system?04:14
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Dr_willis~alsa04:15
Dr_willis!alsa04:15
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:15
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soonnosrednaekim - thx04:16
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BluesKajHamlon, another suggestion :  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply '04:18
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XboxUserCan anyone help me? I have an ATI Radeon 9250 and want to install the drivers for it because everything in kubuntu for me is kinda blurred, hopefully installing the drivers will fix it but I dunno where to get them from?04:31
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nosrednaekim!ati | XboxUser04:32
ubotuXboxUser: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
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soonAnyone know how I can install OpenOffice.org 2.3.0 on my 64 bit machine?04:34
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nosrednaekimsoon: the .deb didn't just work?04:37
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soonThe install seemed to run (didnt take very long though) but nothing shows up in KDE menus and running oowriter from CLI doenst either04:37
soonI ran : sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the directory which had all the files (inkl kde-integration)04:38
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nosrednaekimtry "soffice-writer" or something like that04:39
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BluesKajXboxUser, you can find the driver here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html04:39
nosrednaekimsoon: were they 32 or 64 bit debs?04:39
soon6404:40
nosrednaekimok.... do "sof<and press tab>" and see what it gives you.04:40
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XboxUserhow do I use that .run file?04:41
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XboxUserI got ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run but dunno how to use it04:41
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BluesKajXboxUser, in the terminal,    ./whateverfilename.run04:42
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nosrednaekimsudo ./whateverfilename.run04:42
XboxUserk thanks04:42
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nosrednaekimXboxUser: there are easier ways to install it..04:42
XboxUseroh, such as? :)04:43
nosrednaekimvia the restricted-manager04:43
XboxUserhow do i get into that?04:43
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nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"04:43
nosrednaekimand then run it with "sudo restricted-manager"04:43
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nosrednaekimand then enable the proprietary ATI driver :)04:44
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XboxUserrestricted-manager in konsole says Must be run as root04:44
XboxUserhow do I do that/04:45
soonsorry nosredaekim .. I misse you posting above ... sof<tab> gives me software-properties-kde04:45
nosrednaekimthats it?04:45
soonyep04:45
nosrednaekimhmm...04:45
soon(Im not root though)04:45
nosrednaekimdoesn't matter.04:45
XboxUserbash: /home/dan/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run: Permission denied04:46
XboxUserbah, how do I install the drivers then if I keep getting gay permission denied messages :(04:46
ubuntu!de04:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:46
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RurouniJonesXboxUser: You prefix the command with sudo04:47
XboxUserkk04:47
RurouniJonesthen enter the password when needed04:47
RurouniJonesOr just su root, enter password and do what you need to.04:47
JucatoRurouniJones: su root won't work. the root user is "disabled"04:47
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XboxUserhow do I run ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run?04:48
XboxUsersudo ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run?04:48
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XboxUserI keep gettin gpermissionn odisjfidsfjgf04:50
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XboxUserpermission denied04:50
XboxUser??04:50
BluesKajXboxUser, open the konsole , copy and paste this  ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run04:51
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soonXboxUser check out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page04:51
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Streppelhi04:52
nosrednaekimhey04:52
soonaloha04:52
Streppelsomeone may help me with compiz?i installed it on gutsy and it seems to work fine execpt that it throws away my window manager and doesn't start a new one04:53
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nosrednaekimStreppel: you might need emerald (if you are talking about window decorations)04:54
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Streppelyes i am and i already installed emerald04:54
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nosrednaekimrun "emerald --replace"04:56
nosrednaekimfrom and alt+f204:56
Streppelit doesn't seem to do anything04:56
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Lynoure!backup04:57
Streppelis there an error-log file somewhere where i may look at to find the error?04:57
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning04:57
thomas__can anyone give me the name of a really good hard disk image program?04:57
Lynoure!cloning04:58
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate04:58
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thomas__Lynoure: what about cloning a windows drive?04:58
Streppelmhh i'll do a upgrade now for all my packs and try it then again04:59
Lynourethomas__: I was just looking this up for myself, this time... I don't know much about windows system anymore, but dd works quite well for anything. and gparted too can move contents of partitions, perhaps clone them too04:59
thomas__Lynoure: k thx05:00
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thomas__what about Partimage?05:02
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sArjhi! i cant use my web browser Konquerror.. =\ i have a proper internet connection(as example irc is working now, w3m console browser  also work fine), but Konqurror say's05:07
sArjAn error occurred while loading http://www.lafox.net/:05:07
sArjCould not connect to host http://www.lafox.net/.05:07
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sArjany idea?05:07
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Streppel sArj is it just Konqueror?05:11
sArjStreppel, Opera has the same error05:12
Streppelare your networksettings correct?05:13
Streppelor was the networkcard detected correctly?05:14
BluesKajStreppel, his irc client works ok05:14
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nosrednaekimsArj: try pinging it.05:15
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sArji have  an disabled LAN card and hardware dial-up modem05:16
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sArj--- google.com ping statistics ---05:17
sArj55 packets transmitted, 46 received, 16% packet loss, time 54201ms05:17
sArjrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 287.445/373.857/888.040/139.123 ms05:17
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sArjbut my browser still does not working05:18
sArj[sorry for my English ;), i am ukrainian] 05:18
Streppel"emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"  "<--this is what emerald gives me when i try to start it05:20
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sArjwait.. it loads the page icon, wich displayed at the adress of the site, wich i want to open05:21
brillDoes anyone know how to change the default dvd player in kubuntu?05:21
brillMine is stuck at kaffeine.05:21
jhutchinssArj: Usually that's either because you have accidentally set a web proxy, or because you have not and you need to.05:22
thomas__i have a question05:22
jhutchinsbrill: Right-click a DVD, choose "Open With", check "Remember" box.05:22
jhutchinsthomas__: You do?05:22
thomas__image programs, do they only copy partitions? or can they image while hard drives wiithout choosing partitions?05:22
brillJhutchins: Thanks!05:23
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sArjbut.. my browser connects to the server, because it loads an icon of that page05:23
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kloplopCan somebody help me with apache? I screwed it up with the adept manager..05:25
jhutchinsthomas__: most of them do partitions, but depends on the program, you'd have to look at the options.05:25
thomas__jhutchins: because I have a hard drive with windows, with 2 paritions, one of them with windows directory on them the other with some programs installed on the partition? how would I go about imaging that hard drive?05:26
sArjand.. i can browse the web with console browser w3m or links ;).. i dont need a proxy!05:26
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jhutchinsthomas__: again, depends on which software you're using, but no difficulty imaging each partition.05:27
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kloplophow do I purge apache?05:28
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thomas__jhutchins: but 1 partition won't work without the other, because I have programs installed on both directories. Do I have to do a whole image of a hard drive or can I do seperately?05:29
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jhutchinsYou can do them seperately, just be sure to restore both in the same order for Windows to work - need to get the same drive letter assigned.05:29
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chris_how do i change my resolution above 640x480 if in system settings thats as high as it will go05:34
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chris_how do i change my resolution above 640x480 if in system settings thats as high as it will go05:35
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nosrednaekimchris_: what is your graphics chipset?05:36
chris_graphics card?05:36
nosrednaekimyeah05:36
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chris_just a minute05:36
chris_gforcefx 520005:37
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nosrednaekimchris_: ah..ok. get the nvidia driver then.05:38
nosrednaekim!nvidia05:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:38
chris_o.. lol guess that makes since05:38
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frb7.04 won't let me install the package "flashplugin-nonfree", do I have to do it manually?05:39
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nosrednaekimfrb: what does it say?05:39
frbPackage flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:39
pag!multiverse | frb05:40
nosrednaekim!info flashplugin-nonfree05:40
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ubotufrb: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:40
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)05:40
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frbdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse  is already enabled in my sources.list05:41
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nosrednaekimupdate you package lists..05:41
nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get update"05:41
frbI have, many times :/05:41
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nosrednaekimfrb: you can try doing it manually...05:44
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frbI crashed adept again05:51
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dhqis there a better im than kopette05:51
nosrednaekimGaim/pidgin05:52
KubuntuWhat software can I use to burn the kubuntu cd? I'm using winxp with a limited account.05:52
dhqKubuntu, well k3b is the best05:52
frbKubuntu: I don't know if you can05:52
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frbKubuntu: limited accounts are kinda painful05:53
KubuntuI know05:53
dhqnosrednaekim, well does it support msn yahoo and jabber gtalk05:53
KubuntuDoesn't any software support it?05:53
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nosrednaekimdhq: yep05:53
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frb!skype05:54
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:54
dhqnosrednaekim, so its gaim05:54
dhq!gaim05:54
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.05:54
dhq!pidgin05:55
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.005:55
KubuntuWhy can AOL force GAIM to swap name?05:56
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poison--hi guys05:56
nosrednaekimhey...05:56
Kubuntuey05:56
nosrednaekimKubuntu: cause.... they can05:56
KubuntuCan I make my own live cd?05:57
nosrednaekimKubuntu: what do you mean by "make"05:57
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KubuntuWith debian, with the x thini of my choise and the programs i like?05:57
nosrednaekimKubuntu: you can... its some work... but yeah, you can05:57
Kubuntuok05:58
dhqnosrednaekim, pidgin is not there in the repos05:58
KubuntuCan I use the ps3 cd on a computer?05:58
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cloakableNo05:58
nosrednaekimdhq: yeah... just use GAIM.. pidgin is the next "version" of GAIM05:58
nosrednaekimKubuntu: no05:58
Kubuntudoh05:59
dhqnosrednaekim, well what if it want pidgin05:59
cloakableKubuntu: The PS3 is a different system to the PC :P05:59
KubuntuWill wireless work with the ps3 version?05:59
nosrednaekimdhq: install GAIM first for all the dependencies, and then get pidgin from "www.getdeb.net"05:59
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KubuntuIs kubuntu debian with kde?06:00
NickPrestanosrednaekim, he should be able to get it from the debuntu repo too.06:00
dhqNickPresta, well its not there in my repos06:01
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NickPrestadhq, do you have the debuntu repo? 'deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ feisty multiverse'06:01
stdinKubuntu: no, it's Ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome, Ubuntu is based on Debian tho06:02
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KubuntuSo Ubuntu isn't debian with gnome, but debian +/- something and gnome?06:03
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stdinKubuntu: Ubuntu is Debian unstable frozen and worked on for 6 months, then releases. Ubuntu do a lot of patches to the stock Debian packages06:04
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KubuntuWould I notice any diffrence from stable Debian with KDE?06:05
dhqwhen will gusty stable release06:05
NickPresta!gutsy | dhq06:06
ubotudhq: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+106:06
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stdinKubuntu: well, the current stable Kubuntu uses KDE 3.5.6 and Gutsy (released on October) will use 3.5.706:06
Kubuntuok06:07
jm87....06:07
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dhqstdin, when will kde4 be released06:08
Jucato(although there are packages for KDE 3.5.7 for the current stable)06:08
stdindhq: probably sometime in December06:08
KubuntuI got an 10 years old computer (177mhz, 64mb ram, 3 gb hd, and a cd rom), would I have any chance to get anything similar to debian running on it?06:08
trprhaha. "when its ready" ill bet :\06:08
Jucatothey'll make it ready for December. but of course nothing's completely set in stone.06:08
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KubuntuWhat linux live cd is smal and easy customizabole for a 10 year old computer?06:10
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nosrednaekimKubuntu: fluxbuntu MIGHT work06:10
nosrednaekimor DSL06:11
ubunturosKubuntu: may be DSL or puppy linux06:11
KubuntuDsl worx, but it doesn't have many games, I laike games.06:12
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nosrednaekimgames on 177mhz?  heh... fugetabout it.06:13
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KubuntuI mean like pac man, tetris, and so on06:13
stdinmost liveCD won't have too many games on them, installed systems will06:14
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NickPrestaHow would I connect to an application running on my Windows machine downstairs on port 41952? I tried smb:/winxp:41952 and it doesn't show anything06:15
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nosrednaekimtry "http://<ipadr>:<port>06:16
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frb!compiz-fusion06:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:24
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jm87where i can find the program for my restricted  drivers06:27
KubuntuI've heard that I can instal linux on a router. Can I get apache on my d-link router?06:29
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abominiuswhat is the italian irc channel for kububtu on this seerver?06:30
stdinKubuntu: ##linux is a more appropriate place to ask that06:30
stdin!it | abominius06:31
abominius!it06:31
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ubotuabominius: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:31
stdin#kubuntu-it06:31
stdindamn laggy bot :p06:31
abominiustnx06:31
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stdin!lag06:31
ubotuYou have lag, I don't have lag06:31
stdin:)06:31
abominiusgood job :D06:31
abominiusvery good06:31
underdog5004I'm trying to make install this driver, but it fails on FATAL: Error inserting Intel537 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/kernel/drivers/char/Intel537.ko: Operation not permitted. Then insmod complains that the module Intel567 doesn't exist...06:32
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WoahWoahHey there. When I open Adept Manager a prompt comes up which says "you will not be able to change your system settings in any way because another system is using the packaging system database (probably another  Adept application or apt-get or aptitude. Please close the application before using this one" Anyone have any ideas?06:33
abominiusunderdog5004 try: sudo depmod -a06:33
WoahWoahThanks!06:33
frbhow do I convince kubuntu that my clock is not UTC?06:33
underdog5004ok06:33
underdog5004same problem when I try to reinstall06:34
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dhqare there any voice messenger for linux  msn yahoo gtalk06:35
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underdog5004so, depmod -a doesn't work06:37
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carlosBoa Tarde06:38
carlosAlgum do Brasil ?06:38
Jucato!br | carlos06:39
ubotucarlos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:39
USMarinecarlos nao06:39
stdinfrb: in /etc/default/rcS add "UTC=no"06:39
frbah, thanks06:40
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mavericki get this error message06:44
maverickError occurred while initializing audio output method 'oss' -- virtual void COSSSoundPlayer::initialize() -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp -- Device or resource busy06:44
mavericksometimes with programs that playback audio files06:44
maverickany ideas?06:44
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USMarineuse alsa06:45
maverickUSMarine: how ?06:45
USMarinealsadsp program-name06:45
carlosmaverick, use alsaconf.06:46
carlosplease, downloadind alsaconf.deb . find in this google06:46
carlosone step, install alsaconf.06:46
carlostwo, run $alsaconf in this terminal.06:47
carlosalsaconf is initialized automatic.06:47
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maverickcarlos: it's in the repos alsa-utils package06:48
mavericki'll try it and get back to you06:48
maverickthanks06:48
carlosyes, i'm preffered alsaconf.06:48
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USMarinei'm prefered by women06:48
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reinholdhello06:49
reinholdcan you please help me?06:49
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USMarinereinhold don't ask to ask06:49
carlosbut, alsaconf in this repositories deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free06:49
reinholdi upgraded edgy to feisty ...06:49
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reinholdbut after the upgrade06:49
stdincarlos: don't use debian repositories with k/ubuntu06:50
reinholdthe program crashed06:50
USMarinecrashed where and how, what was the error06:50
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USMarine...06:50
frb!find libsigc-2.0.so.006:50
ubotuFile libsigc-2.0.so.0 found in libsigc++-2.0-0c2a, vmware-player06:50
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paulo_hi people06:51
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dave_ive just installed a network (ipp) printer, and its buggered up sane so now i cant scan, any ideas anyone06:51
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paulo_how can i use firefox  i download this program and i cant install06:52
reinholdUSMarine: ... can you help me?06:52
ubunturospaulo_: didn't use apt-get install?06:52
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dave_paulo use adept to install it from the repository06:52
festerI put in a music CD which Kaffeine plays, but /media/cdrom0 can't read. How do I get Kubuntu to read the tracks on the music CD?06:53
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stdinpaulo_: open Adept from KMenu > System > Adept Manager. search for "firefox" ans install it06:53
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dave_ive just installed a network (ipp) printer, and its buggered up sane so now i cant scan, any ideas anyone. it used a unified samsung driver06:53
stdinfester: you use audiocd:/ to see the tracks06:53
paulo_ok06:54
paulo_tanks06:54
USMarinepaulo_ sudo aptitude install firefox06:54
paulo_im new  with kuibuntu06:54
festerstdin> do I type audiocd:/ at a command prompt?06:54
paulo_and the problem is what i speak spanish06:54
paulo_lol06:54
stdinfester: no, in konqueror06:54
USMarinefester no in konqueror06:54
stdin!es | paulo_06:54
ubotupaulo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:54
paulo_ok06:54
ubunturospaulo_: join there and ask further06:55
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USMarinepaulo_ abre una consola06:55
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MojoPIkonHi :-)06:55
festerOK, now I can see the tracks, how do I get XMMS to see them?06:56
USMarineomfg, xmms sucks06:56
USMarineuse amarok06:56
dave_anyone, can u help me fix sane06:57
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: I really enjoyed your post on the Planet07:01
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ey thanks :)07:02
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: !!! :)07:02
Jucatobtw glad to see you again :)07:02
maverickUSMarine: after alsaconf what's next ?07:02
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yea I'm far too busy with school to even look at Ubuntu, it sucks. keep working on it while I'm gone :)07:03
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ooh but mozilla needs your love! :)07:03
Jucato(someone I know just had to use iceape on gutsy because of firefox problems)07:03
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poison--Jucato, tribe 5 with too much bugs?07:11
Jucatohm... not much from where I'm standing....07:11
Jucatosome bugs from kdepim here and there07:11
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elnanociao a tutti07:15
elnanoc' nessuno?07:15
elnanoraga?07:15
Jucato!it | elnano07:15
ubotuelnano: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:15
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elnanothanks;)07:15
poison--Jucato, im testing the OEM install atm og tribe 507:16
poison--seems ok07:16
poison--need a way to ghost the installation07:16
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poison--gonna produce laptops with it07:16
Jucatooh haven't done any OEM installs ever.. so I wouldn't know that07:16
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what_everhello anyone :)07:19
Jucato!hi | what_ever07:19
ubotuwhat_ever: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:19
ubunturoshello what_ever07:20
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frb!dvd07:23
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:23
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georo@Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team07:26
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ugastrange. why doesn't ubotu suggest k3b instead07:27
antonxhi hab nen neues notebook mit kubuntu gibts nen gutes spiel was ich auf die schnelle installieren kann??07:27
georohi a have some problem my desktop did`t work and loading07:27
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Jucato!de | antonx07:27
ubotuantonx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:28
georois only black screen no desktop07:28
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antonxhi ive got a new notebook with kubuntu, is there a good fpshooter which i could install fast with adept?07:28
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georosome one can help me ?07:29
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kreibgeoro:  did it use to load before this happened?07:32
georono07:32
georoyes yes07:32
georois o07:32
RurouniJonesIs this after logging in?07:33
georois load but after load is give a black screen no desktop07:33
georoyes07:33
RurouniJonesrun out of space on the harddisk?07:33
RurouniJonesThat was what caused the problem for me07:33
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georomaby is with a harddisk is not  load a os file07:34
RurouniJonesgeoro, what nationality are you?07:35
georolol kuwait07:35
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georosorry m lan is bad07:35
RurouniJones...ok, maybe not a language channel for that ;)07:35
frbhow does one play dvds on x64?07:35
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RurouniJonesMy only suggestions is check the harddisk isn't full. Not sure what else it could be07:35
georoemm07:35
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georoidont think is that solve my problem07:36
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raoulare there no arabic *ubuntu arabic channels?07:38
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georoi hope that07:39
RurouniJoneshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce1407:39
RurouniJonesNot that I can see07:39
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RurouniJonesUnless there is another arabic speaking country in that list07:40
RurouniJonesI am not really up to date on middle-east languages07:40
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raouliran07:41
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raoul#ubuntu-ir : cant imagine its that well populated though07:41
RurouniJonesI thought about Iran but wasn't sure so didn't say.07:42
raoulalso egypt #ubuntu-eg07:42
georowhat that /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 007:42
emilsedghim iranian, anyone wants help?07:42
RurouniJonesheh, iran has more users.07:42
RurouniJonesemilsedgh: georo could do with help07:42
georoof07:43
georook for arab ?07:43
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emilsedghgeoro: are you Iranian?07:44
georono07:44
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thomas__how do I mount an external hard drive?07:46
georoRurouniJones maby my a hard dirve was disable07:46
georothomas__ ntfs ?07:47
thomas__hmmm maybe07:47
thomas__probably07:47
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georook  download ntfs-3g07:47
thomas__georo: it has no operating system07:47
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thomas__georo: u have that already07:47
georoand make mount07:48
thomas__georo: *i have that07:48
georowait  please07:48
thomas__georo: i've already mounted my internal windows ntfs drive but my external usb drive has no operating system07:48
randal_thomas - so it's not formated?07:49
thomas__randal_: all i want to do is transfer an image of my windows partitions on to it07:49
thomas__randal_: first i want to read that drive though07:49
georohmm07:50
thomas__randal_: my external, i can already read my ntfs internal07:50
akaiHi , is anyone using beryl, i need a tip?07:50
georobut u can`t wirte07:50
randal_ok - thomas - well connect it, mount it, and see if it's readable - it should be07:50
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thomas__georo: no07:51
geororandal_  can u help me ?07:51
akaiI cant figure out how to set that panel displays only apps that are active on one side of cube...07:51
thomas__georo: i connected it, how to mount?07:51
georowait07:51
thomas__randal_: its connected how to mount?07:52
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georoim not pro for linux but some one help me  for this problem07:53
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georour problem is easy but my problem is the desktop is not found !! my os not loading my desktop07:54
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georocan some one help me?07:59
mavericki quit using alsa as my sound driver and am using OSS instead now, my question is : is there a way to associate the volume up/down and mute buttins with oss mixer...just as it used to be with Kmix ??07:59
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AlbertoPkkathman, :-)08:04
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georocan some one help me?08:05
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AzzcoWhere can I find the pastebin?08:07
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poison--where is firefox installed?08:12
poison--which dir?08:12
AlbertoPpoison--, type: whereis firefox in a terminal08:13
thomas__how can you copy an image of windows if you have 2 partitions and you have programs installed on both of them? That means that windows needs both partitions to function right? Can you backup both partitions seperately or has to be whole hard disk?08:13
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poison--ty albertop08:13
AlbertoP:)08:14
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poison--so programs usually are installed under /bin/08:14
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AlbertoPpoison--, spread in various directories actually08:15
AlbertoP /bin or /usr/bin contain binaries08:15
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poison--seems the main executable is under /usr/lib/firefox08:16
poison--need to knwo to install flash08:16
AlbertoPactually firefox should be able to automatically install flash plugin when you need it08:16
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c0daback08:21
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muralihi08:24
poison--anyone knows whats the port for nessus server?08:24
muralican some one help08:24
poison--murali, ask08:24
muralii deleted the partitions08:24
muraliI restored with partition table doctor08:25
muralibut grub was not present08:25
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muraliso i used super grub to restore grub,menu came,but when chosen shows file not found error:1508:26
poison--!grub08:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:26
poison--:D08:27
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muralibut i was able to boot with super grub.when in grub menu.It shows file not found.LILO problem?08:28
poison--if u have grub, u dont habe lilo08:29
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muraliI just entered linux08:29
georohi a have some problem my desktop did`t work and loading08:29
poison--Jucato08:29
poison--georo, what didnt work?08:30
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georomy s08:32
georomy desktop08:32
georoa can`t access to my desktop08:32
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georois logon then stop then give me a black screen08:32
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muralipoison i tried08:34
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muralicurrently I am in linux08:34
muraligrub> find /boot/grub/stage108:34
murali (hd0,2)08:34
muraligrub> root (hd0,2)08:35
muraligrub> setup (hd0,2)08:35
murali Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes08:35
murali Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes08:35
murali Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes08:35
murali Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)08:35
murali Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)08:35
murali Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,2) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu08:35
murali.lst "... succeeded08:35
muraliDone.08:35
muralisomething failed can u see poison08:35
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rustalotis there a gpl violation hotline at the fsf?08:36
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poison--murali, yes08:39
georopoison08:39
georowhat is a solve ?08:40
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poison--georo, are u on a laptop?08:40
georoyes08:40
poison--brand?08:40
georoahh sorry my lan is bad what a brand ?08:40
poison--yes08:40
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poison--is the laptop Asus, Acer?08:40
poison--dell?08:40
poison--HP08:40
poison--Via?08:41
georotoshiba08:41
poison--:D08:41
poison--mkay, reboot and add this to the boot line: acpi=off apm=on08:41
georowh08:41
georowait08:41
georoloooooool where i found a boot line in bois ?08:42
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georosome one tell my a problem with a baryl08:42
poison--eheheh08:43
poison--when u reboot, press ESC to axx the menu08:43
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poison--press "E" to edit08:43
poison--and add: acpi=off apm=on to the kernelo boot line08:44
poison--and boot08:44
poison--:D08:44
poison--[2179]  SSL_connect: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number08:44
poison-- with nessus, any ideas?08:44
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georookk08:45
muralihallo poison08:45
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georopoison-- how i add this command08:48
muralinow error 1708:48
poison--georo: when u reboot, press ESC to access the menu08:49
muralihow to fix error 17 on grub menu,no boot08:49
poison--and add: acpi=off apm=on to the kernelo boot line08:49
poison--<poison--> and boot08:49
georoi now08:49
poison--murali, i think a reinstall will be faster and painless if u dont have any files to recover08:49
georohow i add this  acpi=off apm=on08:49
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AlbertoPkkathman, ping :)08:50
georoim in a edit08:50
poison--just type in at the end of the line08:50
muralii have some files thst is 12 gb i tried to copy it windows ntfs failed.any other way?08:50
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poison--try live cd and copy the files08:51
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muralihow?08:51
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georoto a kernel ?08:52
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georoido what u say is not work !!!08:54
poison--murali, boot with the live cd inserted08:55
poison--!acpi08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:55
poison--!boot08:55
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:55
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poison--georo, try the first link08:56
georook08:56
georothis a new problem08:56
georon08:56
georoin as08:56
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georoin last few day i can access08:56
georoeisit08:57
georoser08:57
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georomy problem not with a cd desktop08:57
poison--i know georo08:57
poison--in the url, check for Option: acpi=off OR noacpi08:57
poison--Impact: This parameter disables the whole ACPI system. This may prove very useful, for example, if your computer does not support ACPI or if you think the ACPI implementation might cause some problems (for instance random reboots or system lockups).08:57
poison--Options for the boot command line.08:58
poison--look there08:58
georook08:58
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georoi dont`t understand any thing all my problem icant access to my desktop is login then stop then i have a  blank screen09:01
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RytmenPinnenis it normal to have 100 processe running? it seems awfully alot to me09:01
maurii'm updating mi kubuntu using adept updater. My question is: where the packages are donloaded before to install09:03
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maurii'm updating mi kubuntu using adept updater. My question is: where the packages are donloaded before to install09:05
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NickPrestamauri, I would assume /tmp09:05
andy_123hi all09:05
NickPresta!hi | andy_12309:05
ubotuandy_123: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:05
andy_123would like to test kubuntu09:05
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andy_123have some hardware questions09:05
andy_1231. does anyone use a twinhan dvb-c card?09:06
andy_1232. what about ati 8.41 fglrx driver and kubuntu? does this work?09:06
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g-hennuxhi09:06
georooff09:06
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g-hennuxon a freshly installed kubuntu, ark fails to start09:06
poison--georo, u cant access your desktop, cause acpi is doing that09:06
mauriNickPresta: uhmmm, no there is nothing in tmp while updater is running09:06
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g-hennuxstarted from the console, i get "ERROR: communication problem with ark, it probably crashed"09:07
poison--mauri, why u want to know dat?09:07
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poison--g-hennus, reinstall ark09:07
mauripoison--: becouse i would like to install by hends09:07
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poison--u should dl packages manually than, and place them where u like09:08
mauripoison--: the packages are installed only when all of them are dowloaded09:08
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poison--yes09:08
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g-hennuxpoison--: doesn't make any difference09:08
mauripoison--: but i i don't wait until that09:08
poison--true09:08
ScorpKinghi poison-- :)09:08
mauripoison--: no new packages are installed09:08
poison--g-hennux, purge the installation of ark and reinstall09:08
poison--heyyyyyyyyy Scorpio09:09
g-hennuxpoison--: that's what i did09:09
poison--sup09:09
poison--didnt work?09:09
ScorpKingnot much :D09:09
g-hennuxpoison--: nope, same error09:09
poison--dat sux09:09
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ScorpKinglol09:09
georopoisen09:09
poison--so it crashes with all compacted file?09:09
poison--yo09:09
georowhat a startx ?09:09
poison--if u type dat in the console, it will start the desktop09:10
g-hennuxpoison--: neither can i start "ark" nor "ark --extract anyfile.zip", always same message09:10
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poison--damn09:10
poison--lemme do some research09:10
poison--justa  sec09:10
georoi tu09:10
poison--!ark09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:10
georoi type09:10
georor09:10
georotell me no screens found09:10
g-hennuxpoison--: that's nice, apparently not many people have had that problem, if you google for it09:10
poison--true09:10
poison--just saw dat09:10
poison--maybe some dependencie package iis corrupted or missing09:11
ScorpKinggeoro: trying to start the desktop?09:11
g-hennuxpoison--: and i'm *not* sudoing or kdesuing09:11
georoyes09:11
georobut i a09:11
g-hennuxpoison--: how can i maybe see where it fails?09:11
poison--did u try: sudo apt-get install -f09:11
georoi can`t09:11
ScorpKinggeoro: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start09:11
g-hennuxpoison--: nothing to do there09:11
andy_123no one using an ati 2600 xt here?09:11
georoi do it09:11
georonothing usful09:11
poison--georo, is it kubuntu 7.04?09:12
georoyes09:12
poison--already told you, you need to disable ACPI so it boots to desktop09:12
poison--while u dont do dat, it wont work09:12
ScorpKinglol09:12
georoo09:13
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georoi can do a boot09:13
georoim new user09:13
poison--easy georo, patience :D09:13
poison--i had millions of issues my first time09:13
georook step by step tell me09:13
poison--hell.. i still do09:13
poison--:D09:13
poison--in dat site i told you, theres everitin u need to know09:14
g-hennuxfolks, this sucks hard.09:14
poison--tell mje about it09:14
georoidid`t understand that site09:14
poison--i cant makie my damn samba to work properly09:14
poison--ok, georo09:14
g-hennuxnot enough that i have to deal with crappy installers for winmodems and graphics cards, now even reliable kde programs refuse to work09:14
poison--just a sec09:14
g-hennuxi should go home09:14
g-hennuxoh, i am home09:14
georook bro09:14
poison--ewhehhehehe09:14
poison--dont forget, linux is not windows09:15
poison--:D09:15
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g-hennuxpoison--: you mean me?09:15
poison--no, georo09:15
georolool09:15
poison--!boot09:15
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ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:15
georoi forger a windows09:15
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stamenhi09:16
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georoe09:16
poison--georo, is your nick registered?09:16
georowait09:16
g-hennuxany repo for acrobat reader?09:16
poison--!hi09:16
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:16
georono09:16
stamenhow can upgrade my open office to the newer version on their web site09:16
poison--register it09:16
georowhy09:16
poison--so we can talk in private09:16
georolol09:16
georook09:16
georowait09:16
g-hennuxi want, too :-)09:16
poison--stamen, use adept09:16
ScorpKinghaha. i have a problem today. :) Suspend and Hibernate don't work on my laptop. suspend shuts the laptop down but i can't boot again and hibernate don't even shut down, it just give me a cursor and nothing happens. any ideas?09:16
mauriI have the following errors when use adept:09:16
georogo09:16
stamenbut from there I can't upgrade it09:16
mauriError: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 15609:17
mauriMajor opcode:  14509:17
mauriMinor opcode:  309:17
mauri Resource id:  0x009:17
mauriFailed to open device09:17
Hamrahello everyone, since i cant mount devices without having root rights, i mounted a windows partition from a root shell, but now, i cant access it through konqueror since only root has access!09:17
stamenpoison--: I can't upgrade it from adept09:17
stamenpoison--: it says all is new09:18
Hamraany work around, im still a newbie in linux09:18
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ScorpKingHamra: add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options when you mount it.09:18
NickPrestaHamra, how did you mount the windows partition?09:18
NickPrestaHamra, or listen to ScorpKing since that should work.09:18
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Hamrathank you i'll try it09:19
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ScorpKingHamra: look at this site - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php09:20
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poison--stamen, dont use the updater09:20
poison--go to: System - Adept09:21
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ScorpKing!ntfs09:22
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:22
ScorpKinghmmm09:22
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level1hi, a process called lisp.run is eating up all my cycles and I can't kill or killall it09:25
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g-hennuxlevel1: what do you mean, you cannot kill it?09:25
g-hennuxlevel1: try kill -KILL, also known as kill -909:25
level1g-hennux: well, I run kill and killall on it, and its still running09:26
g-hennuxlevel1: but kill -KILL is definitely more impressive if you have people looking at your screen09:26
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level1there should be a kill --with-fire09:26
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level1maybe I'll alias that09:27
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g-hennuxif i run kdesu ark, everything runs fine09:27
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level1my graphics card got banged up when I had ups ship my computer to my dorm, I think its dead09:28
g-hennuxgot it09:28
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level1It'll power on, but the screen doesn't display anything, even a bios screen09:29
g-hennuxi started an instance of ark started as root and so kde tried to show that instance instead of creating a new one for the user that started it [SOLVED] 09:29
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ScorpKinglevel1: is the AGP the first graphics card in the BIOS? check with the cable plugged in the onboard graphics if your board got one.09:30
level1ScorpKing: it doesn't have an onboard gpu, and its not AGP, its PCI-E X1609:31
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level1and theres only one PCI-E slot09:31
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poison--omg09:31
ScorpKinglevel1: then it's broken. try talking to it nicely. :P09:31
poison--levell, did u try to reset the bios?09:31
poison--i wasted two cards last year09:32
poison--a x1650 and a x850gto09:32
poison--damn09:32
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poison--in a row09:32
poison--lol09:32
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level1poison--: how can I reset the bios without getting the screen up?09:32
ScorpKingon the mainboard.09:32
USMarineremove the video card09:32
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poison--ermmm... open the case, remove the batery and use the cmos CLEAR09:32
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USMarineor use the board jump09:33
USMarinejumper*09:33
poison--pout batery back on and reboot09:33
poison--yeah, clear the cmos by changein the jumper position to CLEAR09:33
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gabriel_br?09:37
USMarinebrasil?09:38
USMarine!br09:38
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:38
gabriel_oi09:38
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poison--gabriel_ falaeee09:43
poison--lmao09:43
georomy world is over !09:43
nixternalUSMarine: oohrah!09:43
poison--ehehhe09:43
USMarine:P09:44
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USMarinesempre fi09:44
nixternalgunner's mate guns, so I still get to blow stuff up :)09:45
USMarineoh yeah09:45
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also-rrevening :) my mythtv/ubuntu install is going well09:47
georoofffffffffff09:47
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georoone guy tell me a problem with beryl  and other guy tell me a os is gone is bad luck to day09:48
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ScorpKinggeoro: what happened?09:49
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georous09:49
georojust same a problem09:49
USMarinewell i can't get beryl to work properly with multi desktops09:49
georono noooo09:49
ScorpKinggeoro: no permission to write to ntfs?09:50
georoi  can`t access to my desktop09:50
ScorpKingoh. lol09:50
georolooooooooooool09:50
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FrostEyesmorn.. Anybody theres has played width phpldapadmin and SASL09:56
FrostEyesover GSSAPI09:56
alex_09:57
poison--!ru09:57
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke09:57
poison--:D09:57
alex_thx09:57
poison--np09:57
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skylarhey i need some help with my kubuntu install10:06
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g-hennuxlookup: then tell us about it :-)10:07
lookupim having trouble installing beryl10:07
lookupi just installed today but beryl's real trouble lol10:07
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USMarinelookup how come?10:08
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lookupi just can't get beryl installed10:08
FrostEyesVersion?10:08
FrostEyesglxinfo10:08
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lookupdo you want me to send the whole glxinfo?10:09
FrostEyeswhat is your graphic card?10:09
lookupxfx geforce 760010:09
USMarineusing nvidia drivers?10:09
lookupi have the nvidia drivers installed10:10
USMarinecomposite enabled in xorg.conf?10:10
FrostEyesHave you AIGLX working?10:10
lookupi don't know how to do that10:10
FrostEyesjust add Section Serverflags Option "composite" "true" EndSection10:10
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FrostEyesOr something like that10:10
lookuplol idk linux is a whole new thing for me.10:11
lookupis there a way that you could walk me through it?10:12
FrostEyesSection "Extensions"10:12
FrostEyes        Option  "Composite" "Enable"10:12
FrostEyesEndSection10:12
FrostEyescopy the lines10:12
USMarinelookup http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/76510:12
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lookupi copied the lines10:13
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ScorpKinghey guys. i've been talking to georo. it seems his graphic drivers is broken. this is the problem - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=406146 . to fix it as shown in the last post he needs internet access. his internet use to be through kppp on the same machine but he can't start X to dail up. can someone help?10:13
lookupwhat do i edit them into?10:13
USMarine#10:14
USMarineOption "RenderAccel" "True"10:14
USMarine#10:14
USMarineOption "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"10:14
USMarine#10:14
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USMarineOption "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"10:14
ScorpKinghe gets the famous black screen with blinking cursor.10:14
ScorpKing!paste10:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:14
FrostEyesYou tjek your xorg.conf and if your don't have composite enabeled, you enable them..10:14
USMarineput that inside screen section10:14
USMarineDefaultDepth 2410:14
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georothanks alot10:14
ubuntu_hey guys have a question, on the live cd now, trying to access an ntfs drive, how do i access the information?\10:14
ScorpKinggeoro: np10:14
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ubuntu_kkathman: hey can you help me with this by chance?  its zgmf-x20a10:15
ubuntu_drif: hey drif are you here???10:15
ScorpKingubuntu_:  look at this site for ntfs - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php10:15
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ubuntu_ScorpKing: i just need to access the data though.  how do i find it, or mount it???10:16
ScorpKingubuntu_: it's all there. mount the disk and copy the stuff. go read. :P10:17
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georoHow can I dail my Kppp connection from the command line?10:19
emilsedghgeoro: i think you cannot, but use pppconfig, pon and poff OR wvdial10:20
llutzgeoro: kppp -h10:20
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llutzemilsedgh: he can :)10:21
emilsedghllutz: didnt know, sorry :)10:21
georoe10:21
georohmmmmmmm10:21
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ubuntu_Biovore: hey are yu here man?10:21
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ScorpKingubuntu_: still not mounted? hmmm. sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/10:23
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brillDoes anyone know how to change kubuntus autoplay of dvds10:27
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NoNameGodlo all :|10:28
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NoNameGodany can help?10:28
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Biovore!ask10:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:29
luchocan someone help me with the configuration of a wifi card using ndiswrapper?10:29
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luchoplease10:29
Biovore!ndis10:29
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:29
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geore@Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team10:29
georeback10:29
NoNameGodi have a BIG problem.,...i only can start PC with runlevel 1 :| in recovery mode....i get an error i've never seen before....timer not connected to IO-APIC10:30
luchothx10:31
BiovoreDual CPU?  PIII SMP?10:31
NoNameGodi just finished to change mobo, processor and other few things10:31
brillboot using nolapic10:31
NoNameGodi have a new AM210:31
NoNameGod:|10:31
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Biovore32bit OS? or 64bit OS?10:31
NoNameGod3210:31
NoNameGodi still have to download 64 and try10:31
NoNameGod...just bought the processor :|10:32
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brillIt's not the processor. It's the apic10:32
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NoNameGodbut now i'ld like to increas my runlevel....to 3 at least :D10:32
georehow i connect with kppp from command line ?10:32
brillboot with it turned off.10:32
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NoNameGodi tried with noapic10:32
Biovoregeore: you don't, kppp is a gui front end.. use wv-dial10:32
NoNameGodin grub config10:32
brillhowabout apic=off10:33
NoNameGodand apic=debug as suggested in the warning :|10:33
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Biovoregeore: kind of comfussing to setup though..10:33
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ScorpKingBiovore: he's new to linux. lol10:33
Biovorewell.. good luck with that....10:33
NoNameGodBiovore: are you sure about apic=off?10:34
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Biovorethat might work.. no guarrenties though..10:34
NoNameGodi'll try...thanks :|10:34
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NoNameGod:D10:34
georei don`t have a startx10:34
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brillIt'll work. There's just some sideeffects though.10:34
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NoNameGodcu soon :D (i hope)10:35
georehmm10:35
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georohow i connect with kppp from command line ?10:41
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demarcsekhi all10:43
quiltroI'm not on the computer that has this problem right now, but I have a nvidia 8300 GS card with the latest driver, but every time I reboot the machine and kdm starts up, terminal 7 and terminal 1 have a gray background that's pretty useless until I reinstall the graphics driver (binary blob from nvidia)10:44
quiltroIs this is a known problem?10:44
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demarcseki have got a problem with Maxtor OneTouch III (USB 2.0, 320 GiB HDD). can anybody help me?10:44
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demarcseki can mount it, but i cannot write it as root or simple user10:45
demarcsekbut it is in fstab and 'rw' is on10:45
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georgeAnyone know how to get adobe flash installed on a 64bit Kubuntu?10:47
quiltrogeorge: There's a wiki article on how to get it to work with 32-bit libraries, but as far as I know, there's no native 64-bit Flash.10:47
demarcsekit always say 'read-only filesystem':(10:47
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georgek thanks I will find the wiki, works fine on my 32bit thought there might be a solution10:48
bioman@ george i do10:48
biomanthere is a script doing it automagically10:48
biomangoogle for nspw_install10:49
ScorpKingquiltro: it seems to be a common problem. i've seen many complains about that. :)10:50
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ScorpKingdemarcsek: ls -l /mountdir/ and see who own the files.10:51
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quiltroScorpKing: The folks in #nvidia say delete all nvidia packages if you use the executable from nvidia with dpkg -l | grep nvidia10:52
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demarcseknow, demarcsek10:53
demarcsekbut demarcsek cannot write10:53
demarcsekjust read10:53
ScorpKingquiltro: i wont know, but if they say so... :P10:53
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demarcsekand if i want to modify permissions10:53
Pitabredgeorge: you want to use nspluginwrapper and then install the flash-nonfree package10:54
PitabredIt shouldn't take too much work10:54
demarcsekit says the same 'read-only filesystem'10:54
ScorpKingdemarcsek: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /mountdir/10:54
ScorpKingdemarcsek: and then chmod 755 -R /mountdir/10:54
Dr_willishmm.10:54
ScorpKing:)10:55
Dr_willisis this a vfat/ntfs filesystem hes mounting?10:55
demarcsekntfs10:55
ScorpKinglol10:55
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Dr_willisI dont think that the chmod/chown works with ntfs/vfat moubnted filesystems. at least it dident used to.10:55
ScorpKingdemarcsek: look at this site for ntfs - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php10:55
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Dr_willisNormally the umask/dmask/fmask options are used.10:55
demarcseki have done that, but it did not work...10:55
demarcseki am trying to umount...10:56
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Dr_williswhat error it give when unmounting?10:56
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demarcseknothing10:56
demarcsekit works10:56
Dr_willisOk... :)   guess ive totally missed the problem then.10:57
demarcsekbut i can't write :(10:57
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Dr_willisYou need to mount it proplery with the proper umask option In most cases.10:57
ScorpKingDr_willis: not quite.10:57
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Dr_willisactually with ntfs - you should be using the ntfs-3g for writing i belive is the reccomended way10:57
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ScorpKingtrue10:57
Dr_willis!info ntfs-config10:58
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB10:58
Dr_willisi always use that tool. :)10:58
Dr_willisi also have found it best to avoide writing to ntfs if at all possible. :) "just in case"10:58
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ScorpKingand there is...10:58
ScorpKing!ntfs10:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:59
demarcseki am trying...10:59
ScorpKinglol. good luck10:59
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nick_i just installed and partitioned a new hdd using gpart and i can see the hdd under system storage but if i try to past files in it it says acces denieds10:59
demarcsekthx :)10:59
ScorpKingnp10:59
Dr_willisnick_,  you are refering to a windows drive/partition?10:59
mriouhi, probably a lame question but I've been googling for 30mn without finding an answer. I want to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy (alpha, I know), what's the recommended way?11:00
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Dr_willis!upgrade11:00
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)11:00
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georo@Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team11:00
Dr_willisHmm.. There was (or will be soon) a upgrader tool I thought also.11:00
jpatrickmriou: there is no such thing as a lame question11:00
mriouit's the same for feisty->gutsy?11:00
nick_dr_willis no its a brand new clean hdd11:00
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Dr_willisthe old skool way is  - adjust the sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade I think.11:01
mriouthere's dist-upgrade on ubuntu but couldn't find anything for kubuntu11:01
Dr_willisI always do a clean reinstall11:01
Dr_willisdist upgrade should work for either one.11:01
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mriouyeah, I was going to do the sources.list patching but I was wondering if there was another "better" way11:01
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demarcsekI have tryied it with ntfs-config, but it didn't work, and now i can't unmount too, because it says 'it is not mounted by HAL' LoL11:02
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ugathe mirror is seriously broken11:02
ugaimportant packages are listed but then not found, like linux kernel modules...11:02
mriouuga: ok, thanks for the tip11:03
gnomefreakuga: sounds like release file is corrupt11:03
Dr_willissudo umount whatever     'should' unmont it.11:03
Dr_willisassuming its mounted. (check mount command)11:03
ugamriou, gnomefreak: I migrated to uk.archive.... and I got 160 packages more, and the missing debs were found11:03
gnomefreakuk and gb get updates right away as they are the ones uploaded to11:03
gnomefreakso unless borked they will always have latest11:04
demarcsekok, unmount completed, but now i cannot mount that :D11:04
Dr_willisuse the shell.. not the gui11:04
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demarcsekok11:04
demarcseki think, i should restart the computer...11:05
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Dr_willisgiven that you are not sure of the state of the mounted things.. :)11:05
mriouDr_willis: there's no dist upgrade on kubuntu afaik11:05
demarcsek:)11:05
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Dr_willismriou,  its a command you can run under ubuntu? if so - you can install it under kubuntu if you want.11:05
NickPrestamriou, `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`11:05
Dr_willis!find dist-upgrade11:05
ubotuFile dist-upgrade found in feta11:06
mriouoh ok, you mean as an aptitude option, then yes11:06
demarcsekbye, really thank you!!11:06
Dr_willismrigns,  i was refering to NickPresta 's sort of method. :)11:06
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MaTiAzAnyone can recommend a calculator program which handles hexadecimal too?11:06
USMarinekcalc?11:06
ScorpKingi think kcalc does11:06
Biovoreyeah.. kcalc11:06
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MaTiAzah, I missed the option first time, thanks :)11:07
Biovorespeedcrunch does as well11:07
Biovorejust have to type hex(value in dec)11:07
nick_dr_willis why do you think it is saying acces denied when i try to past files and how can i change the permisions?11:08
ugaMaTiAz: if you need something more advanced, you could use speedcrunch11:08
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Dr_willisnick_,  not sure of your exact drive layout. or what you are doing exactly. Perhaps restating/clarifying things will make it clear.11:10
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SanityInAnarchyCan't get amarok to play flac files11:11
nick_dr_willis i installed a new hdd and patiioned it using gpart and mounted it using the guy and it shows up in the storage menue but when i try to past fito it it says acces denied11:12
Dr_willisnick_,  you are trying to paste things to it as a user? if so thats the problem. The drive is not owned by the user. make a directory ON the drive (as root with sudo) and chown That directory. The user can then access that dir  and thus the drive11:13
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Dr_willisassuming its a ext3 drive. :)11:14
mrioujust for the record, I'v found the non-old-skool way: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"11:14
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mriouthis gives you a nice blue upgrade button11:14
nick_dr_willis its is ext3 and how do i make a directory?11:14
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Dr_willissudo mkdir  whatever11:15
Dr_willis it will be well worth the time to go through a bash tutorial or 2 :)    Shell Basics.11:15
ugaRute_11:15
nick_dr willis i will thanks for the help11:15
Dr_willisi always set up my extra hd's as a 'ExtraStorage' directory in my users home dirs.11:15
Dr_willismake that dir. chown it, then 'soft link'  (with ln -s) from /media/whatever/usersdir to /home/usersdir11:16
g-hennuxhow can i get the news overview for kontact start page? it's not in the option window11:16
Dr_willisthat way they can access it a little easier.11:16
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uganick_: best linux tutorial around: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz11:17
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ugathere are pdfs online too, but right now I cant recall where...11:17
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nick_uga i bookmarked it thanks11:18
nick_dr_willis what is chown it and how do i do it?11:18
sstchurafter installing swat and then trying to browser to localhost:901, I'm getting "unable to connect".  What more do I have to do to setup swat?11:20
Biovoreuga: Actualy that very good for people to start with who realy want to know linux11:20
uganick_: http://rute.2038bug.com/node14.html.gz#SECTION00141000000000000000011:20
ugachown explained =)11:21
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ugaBiovore: one of the first tutorials I ever read11:21
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ugaold but still nice11:21
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ugait covers almost everything11:21
warren_hello...I need help getting direct rendering to work11:22
Biovorergr..  I like the order it introduces things.. ground up11:22
Dr_willisgood answer. :)11:22
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NickPrestauga, indeed. It is quite lengthy.11:22
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Dr_williswith linux it pays to learn the fundamentals11:22
nick_uga il look at that thanks for the help i have been using linux for a while but have been afraid of the comand line11:22
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Dr_willisCommand line roxx's your soxx's11:23
Dr_willisI make my windows user friends dizzy when i start doing things on the command line..11:23
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Dr_willis They cant understand the vi editor appearing, me saving things, hitting up arrow. and so forth. :)11:24
warren_hello...can anyone help me with direct rendering?11:24
Dr_willisor typing in a 20+ character command   with | and  grep and so forth . on the fly.11:24
luchoin the manual for activating wifi it says i should remove a line, how do I do that?11:24
Dr_williswarren_,  can you be a little more specific?11:24
Dr_willislucho,  depends on the line. and where its at.. most likely 'sudo EDITORYOULIKE /whatever/path/to/file/it/says'11:25
nick_its great when you know it but intemidateing at first if you grew up using windows11:25
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warren_Well, I can't get direct rendering to work on my ATI  Radeon 955011:25
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Dr_williswarren_,  you did install the fglrx drivers?11:25
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ugaDr_willis: better kdesu, since else he ll need to get access to X, first11:25
ScorpKinguga: thanks for the link. it's great!11:26
warren_Yes, but when I try to start an XGL session, the graphics are slanted and all corrupt11:26
luchothe thing is that I have to remove one of the wireless devices and in the manual it says I should remove the line or comment it with #11:26
ugaoh, I missed that the same page contains a link to the pdf11:26
luchowhat should I do?11:26
Dr_willisuga,  depends on his editor. :) but im old-skool.11:26
ugaheh11:27
Dr_willislucho,  what file where.. is the question11:27
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Dr_willislucho,  inserting a # in front of a line 'comments' it out. same as removeing it. (makes it easier to undo later if needed)11:27
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luchoaaa11:27
luchook11:27
luchothx11:27
lookupif anybody knows how to install beryl, i need some help11:28
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warren_Good luck with Beryl...I've been trying to get that working for months!11:28
Dr_willislookup,  at this time.. with gutsy due out soon. Id almost say.. wait :)11:28
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warren_http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png11:31
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warren_has a screenshot of what my graphics look like in an XGL session11:31
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daoudi5hi friends11:32
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ugaheh, my last xgl session looked more sane than that, hehe11:32
lookupis ubuntu better to have to install that11:32
daoudi5what is the command  to see the linux partition free space?11:32
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ugadaoudi5: df -h11:32
warren_I've tried everything to get XGL to work...it always looks like that11:32
warren_http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png11:32
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ScorpKinguga: i think this is the one http://www.math.mcgill.ca/lebaron/rute/rute.pdf11:33
lookupidk why is it so hard to install11:33
ugaScorpKing: the same page I pointed before includes a link to the pdf, on top11:33
ugaI missed that, before11:34
ugawhat Im not sure about is whats the official mirror11:34
ScorpKingnope. goes to mweb.co.za for me11:34
uga(sorry about mistyping, but my kb is completely broken)11:34
ugaScorpKing: that must be the one. The author is from somewhere in south africa11:34
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ScorpKingoh, so am i  :) thanks anyway.11:35
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ugayour name isn-t paul sheer by any chance, right?11:36
uga:)11:36
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ScorpKingnope :D11:36
ScorpKinglol11:36
xluchoxwhat do i have to do to comment?11:36
xluchoxwith # I mean11:36
ugaanyway, brb11:37
Dr_willisxluchox,  we have no idea. depends on what the docs said..11:37
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xluchoxmmm11:37
xluchoxok11:37
Dr_willisSounded like you said some line, in some file...11:37
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nick_dr_willis: i typed chown nick video and i go the error changing ownership of `video': Operation not permitted11:38
|newbie|hi every one, I've installed a linux distribution, and i tried to set up firefox, but i've an error "error while loading shared librairies  libstdc++ : cannot poen shared object  file , no such file or directory"11:38
wastedfluidhey guys; how do i stop wallet from asking for a password for kopete+knetworkmanager on every startup?11:38
xluchoxI put the command cat /etc/iftab to see the connections11:38
Dr_willisnick_,  since thats a system level change.. you would need to do it with sudo most likely11:39
Dr_willissudo whatevercommand11:39
xluchoxand there is one that I have to remove11:39
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Dr_willisxluchox,  you can edit that file with 'sudo nano /etc/iftab' then put in a # where needed.11:39
Dr_willisI dont even Have that file. :) so cant help ya much more then that.11:40
xluchoxthx11:40
Dr_willisor use some other editor.11:40
nick_Dr_willis omg i knew that im sorry for the stupid question i really need to turn the game off11:40
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frbhow do I watch a DVD in 7.04 x64?11:40
Dr_williskdesu kate (or kedit) /path/to/file11:40
Dr_willismight work better.11:40
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g-hennuxi am installing a via graphics driver and have to compile that. in a line that says: "tmp = (OffMemRange *) MALLOC(OffMemRange);" i get a compile error saying: "error: expected expression before OffMemRange" - any idea what i missed?11:42
georoi try to login but no screen i can`t access to my desktop no screen no booting11:43
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Dr_willisgeoro,  and has it ever worked?11:44
georothanks11:44
g-hennuxScorpKing: maybe you have some chocolate? :-)11:45
georono11:45
ScorpKinglol. maybe next time :D11:45
Dr_willisgeoro,  that would be good info to give initially. :) and also what is the video card/system you are using?11:45
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georolool im new user i do not give any thing god11:46
georolool im new user i do not give any thing good11:46
georois a first time give a blank screen11:46
georoi try this command startx but is tell me  not screens found11:47
Dr_willisThe Live cd works and you can do that install? But the installed system fails to start up X properly the first boot?11:47
georono no11:47
georoi intall a kubuntu is work and boot11:47
ScorpKinggeoro: can i explain? correct me if i'm wrong. :D11:47
georo=ok11:48
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georog11:48
ScorpKinglol.11:48
georolooool11:48
georogo scor explain11:49
ScorpKinghe had byrel installed and removed it. X doesn't start. only a blank screen with cursor. he needs internet on that box to fix it but wvdail is not installed.11:49
ScorpKingbyrel*11:49
ScorpKingor whatever11:49
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georoberyl11:50
georob11:50
=== Dr_willis dosent touch Beryl. So cant help ya in removing it. Sorry. Ive seen way too many people try to install it. fail, and break the ssytem.
georoi think a problem not with beryl11:50
Dr_willissounds like the xorg.conf may be broken if  startx dosent work.11:50
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georoi  think11:50
Dr_willissee if theres a backup and restore it. Or reconfigrye the X server. would be the 2 first steps to try11:50
ScorpKingxorg.conf is broken11:50
warren_Does anyone know how to fix this; http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png11:51
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Dr_willisThis is why i keep archives/backups of my systems and their various xorg.conf's at different times. :)11:51
ScorpKingwhat's the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?11:51
Dr_willis!xorg11:51
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:51
Dr_willis!fixres11:51
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georoemmmmmmmmmmmm11:52
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:52
Dr_willisperhaps also.11:52
Dr_willis:)11:52
ScorpKingi think he needs build-essential to run system-config-display --reconfigure but no internet11:52
georolol11:52
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ScorpKinghmmm. that could work11:52
ScorpKingmaybe just a reinstall and dont' break it again. that will be a lot faster. :P11:53
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georolooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool11:53
georoi don`t understand why is broken11:54
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wathekhello all I've a problem with my sound card there's no sound it's not muted and I checked the volume is in the top11:54
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wathekthis is what shows me lspci 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)11:54
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jimmy_Hey, is anyone here?11:56
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sahin_hwathek: I've got ICH7. And Kubuntu (and ubuntu too) use it a little bit tricky...11:57
jimmy_I just installed Kubuntu and am having some problems. I can't get sudu to work, it keeps saying that the commany isn't found. What should I do?11:57
jimmy_command*11:57
sahin_hwathek: Click on the audio icon, and click the mixer button.11:57
watheksahin_h: it doesn't work well ?11:57
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watheksahin_h: and ?11:58
sahin_hwathek: Try to increase other channel too.11:58
sahin_hFor myself I have to increase the PCM and the surround.11:58
watheksahin_h: i've two channels Master and PCM11:59
sahin_hwathek: It's strange... I have many.11:59
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blekoshi i'm using gutsy, the boot image says "gutsy gibbon development") linux-kernel....12:01
blekoswill this be replaced on the final release?12:01
sahin_hblekos: Yes.12:01
blekosthnx12:01
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Biovoreblekos: just change /etc/issue12:02
Biovore:-P12:02
blekos:)12:02
sahin_hBiovore: This will be a cheat... ;-)12:02
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jimmy_Can anyone help me out?12:03
PitabredSomeone should have told him the command is called "sudo", not "sudu"12:04
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ag3rhi12:06
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ag3rsomeone can help me12:06
ag3ri have som problems with beryl12:06
ag3rmy desktops 2,3,412:06
KartiAny MySQL gurus here, trying to connect via a client?12:06
ag3rwhen i move a window inside them12:06
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ag3rit's like windows when any application stucks12:06
ag3rit repeats in all screen12:07
ag3ri can fill it with copies12:07
ag3rsomeone can help me?12:07
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Biovoreag3r: thats a app hanging.. or not responding..12:09
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ag3rBiovore:12:09
daedalushi, how can i get libcurses library for ubuntu?12:09
Biovorealt-f2 xkill  then click on the window..  Will kill it..12:09
ag3rits beryl12:09
Biovoreoh.. that just beryl :-P12:09
ag3rin desktop 2 3 412:09
ag3ri move a window12:09
ag3rand the window multiplies12:09
ag3ra copies12:09
ag3rlike in windows12:10
Biovoreberyl is very picky.. its a play thing12:10
ag3r?12:10
Biovoreberyl has lots of bugs12:10
ag3ri know12:10
Biovorenot ment for getting anything done..12:10
ag3rok12:10
Biovorenot officialy supported12:10
ag3rsome like beryl that functions?12:10
Biovoreberyl is all unstable stuff12:11
Biovorecompviz also fall under this..12:11
Biovore!effects12:11
ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects12:11
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gustavowhats the best way to secure apache? chroot it mannually or using libapache2-mod-chroot?12:12
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Biovoregustavo: depends on how much of a security nazi you want to be..12:14
BiovoreI don't normaly run it in a chroot12:14
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ScorpKingi have a problem. Suspend and Hibernate don't work on my laptop. suspend shuts the laptop down but i can't boot again and hibernate don't even shut down, it just give me a cursor and nothing happens. any ideas?12:17
Biovoresuspend is kinda picky on hardware12:17
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Biovoreworks here on my laptop12:18
ScorpKingwhat program is responsible for that?12:18
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kupesoftI can't get network-manager-gnome to stop the annoying keyring pop-up even with the libpam-keyring fix,12:18
kupesoftis this an xubuntu-specific bug?12:18
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underdog5004ugh, just spent the last 30 minutes on the phone with AT&T trying to get a static ip address for less than 80/month...not a pretty sight12:21
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en1gmasup all12:23
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ScorpKinghi12:24
xluchoxdid someone install a wireless card in kubuntu?12:24
kupesoftj # xubuntu12:25
ScorpKingyep12:25
xluchoxI have been following many manuals and still cant configure it12:25
ScorpKing!wireless12:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:25
en1gmaim gonna build my mom a linux box....just now am researching what distro im gonna give her....she is 60 years old and has used windows off and on for 10years BUT you might as well say she is super green to windows still because she forgets....anyhow what version of kubuntu do you think she qualifies for (i use debian mostly)12:25
ScorpKingxluchox: that helped?12:25
xluchox!wireless12:25
xluchoxmmm12:25
xluchoxno12:25
xluchoxi tried to use ndiswrapper but the thing just doesnt work12:26
ScorpKingxluchox: what card do you have?12:26
xluchoxBroadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card12:27
ScorpKinglol.12:27
ScorpKingwhat does dmesg | tail say?12:27
ScorpKingany errors about drivers?12:27
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xluchoxyes12:28
xluchoxwith bcm43xx12:28
ScorpKing!paste12:28
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:28
ScorpKingah. i know that one. have the same :D12:28
ScorpKingone sec... getting the link12:28
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=== ScorpKing have 5 sec lag :(
xluchoxthere i pasted it12:30
ScorpKingxluchox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty12:30
ScorpKingthat's it. :)12:30
xluchoxthx12:30
ScorpKingnp12:30
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ABOMINIUS!wacom12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:42
ScorpKingugh, stupid connection.12:42
ABOMINIUS!input12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about input - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
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ABOMINIUS!tablet12:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
ScorpKingABOMINIUS: what are you looking for?12:43

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