[12:50] <randal_> do I need to set something in order for it to be found??
[12:50] <dappermuis> ardchoille, weired since they both use libparted
[12:50] <dappermuis> randal_, for what to be found?
[12:50] <ardchoille> dappermuis: True, but not all front end gui';s process information the same way
[12:51] <randal_> my website - Apache2 server installed - etc .... and restart claims [ok] 
[12:51] <ardchoille> bjwebb: man parted
[12:51] <dappermuis> randal_, okay - and now what do you want to do?
[12:51] <randal_> have other people actually be able to get to it... :D
[12:51] <dappermuis> randal_, point your browser to 127.0.0.1 or localhost to see your default apache page
[12:52] <bjwebb> ahhh
[12:52] <bjwebb> ardchoille: i used parteds inbuilt help actually
[12:52] <bjwebb> the drives are numbered differently in parted
[12:52] <ardchoille> bjwebb: Even better :)
[12:52] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[12:52] <ardchoille> hi contrast83
[12:53] <randal_> The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[12:53] <randal_> Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[12:53] <bjwebb> ardchoille: yeah, parted has got them right, and i can see why qtparted mucked up
[12:53] <ardchoille> bjwebb: :)
[12:53] <contrast83> I've got a binary, a .desktop file and an icon for a program which I want to put into a checkinstall package. Could someone point me in the direction where I could find out how to set up a makefile that'll allow me to do this?
[12:53] <dappermuis> randal_, you probably need to configure your www path or something
[12:53] <dappermuis> !apache | randal_
[12:54] <ubotu> randal_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:54] <dappermuis> !httpd | randal_
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about httpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <randal_> dappermuis oh....
[12:54] <randal_> more reading I guess - :D - I'll make it work soon I hope...
[12:55] <randal_> and it's a fairly 'basic' site - just a 'file server' kind of think...
[12:56] <bjwebb> ardchoille: thanks
[12:57] <ardchoille> bjwebb: yw
[12:58] <bjwebb> hmm qtparted won't let me resize
[12:59] <bjwebb> the partitions either side of my free space
[12:59] <bjwebb> its not doing ext3 :O
[01:00] <ardchoille> bjwebb: I hope you are backing up files before deleting partitions
[01:00] <bjwebb> ardchoille: erm
[01:00] <dappermuis> bjwebb, that's what ardchoille and i were just talking about
[01:00] <bjwebb> i don't have that many important files
[01:00] <ardchoille> And are you trying to resize a partition that is currently mounted?
[01:01] <bjwebb> ardchoille: no
[01:01] <dappermuis> ardchoille, the last time i check qtparted wasn't able to resize ext3 at all
[01:01] <bjwebb> ardchoille: it won't let me format as ext3
[01:01] <ardchoille> dappermuis: You're kidding
[01:01] <bjwebb> dappermuis: hmmm :S
[01:01] <bjwebb> im sure it could at least create a ext3 partition
[01:01] <dappermuis> ardchoille, serious - last time i tried was about 2 weeks ago, using the qtparted on the kubuntu live cd
[01:02] <ardchoille> I have used qtparted to create/delete partitions, but never to resize
[01:02] <ardchoille> From what I've seen, the qtparted app on the live cd sucks
[01:02] <bjwebb> hmm
[01:03] <bjwebb> ill use my gparted cd to do it
[01:03] <frb-work> howdy
[01:03] <contrast83> what up
[01:03] <frb-work> does kubuntu 7.10 have the ralink wireless driver on the install media?
[01:04] <smax> hi
[01:04] <frb-work> sorry, 7.04
[01:04] <smax> whats the syntax to play a dvd from the bash prompt
[01:04] <frb-work> my brain hurts
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> smax: using what player?
[01:05] <ardchoille> smax: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[01:06] <smax> mplayer i figured it out. thanx folks
[01:07] <frb-work> I can't seem to find teh HCL
[01:07] <izzyb> what package does dig come in?
[01:07] <izzyb> the domain tool
[01:08] <frb-work> bindutils or something
[01:08] <izzyb> thanks
[01:08] <frb-work> I use so many linux flavors I forget the names
[01:08] <izzyb> hmm, not found :(
[01:08] <stdin> !find dig
[01:08] <ubotu> Found: digikam, digikamimageplugins, libdigest-hmac-perl, libdigest-sha1-perl, perl (and 24 others)
[01:09] <stdin> ugg
[01:09] <frb-work> !find bind
[01:09] <ubotu> Found: authbind, beryl-settings-bindings, bibindex, bind, bind-dev (and 20 others)
[01:09] <stdin> dnsutils: /usr/bin/dig
[01:09] <frb-work> oh, see, they make it confusing :P
[01:09] <izzyb> :)
[01:09] <izzyb> thanks
[01:10] <ardchoille> stdin: How do I find the package that a certain app was in?
[01:10] <ardchoille> I thought it was dpkg -L app but that isn't it
[01:10] <stdin> dpkg -S filename
[01:10] <ardchoille> Ah, it's -S, thanks stdin
[01:10] <stdin> -L lists file in a package
[01:10] <ardchoille> Yeah
[01:10] <stdin> -L = list, -S = search :)
[01:10] <frb-work> I'm so confused
[01:11] <stdin> and I used "dpkg -S bin/dig" to narrow it down a bit
[01:11] <frb-work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsEdimax says my card doesn't work out of the box
[01:11] <frb-work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500 says the driver is included
[01:11] <stdin> one may be out of date
[01:11] <ardchoille> stdin: Yeah, just saw why you had to narrow it down :)
[01:12] <stdin> could have done this too:
[01:12] <stdin> !find bin/dig
[01:12] <ubotu> File bin/dig found in dnsutils
[01:12] <stdin> :)
[01:12] <ardchoille> hehe
[01:12] <ardchoille> Gotta love the bot
[01:12] <frb-work> can anyone confirm the existance of rt2500.ko on kubuntu's DVD somewhere?
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> I think there is a package manifest on the web somewhere
[01:16] <ardchoille> frb-work: I found this:  linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko
[01:16] <ardchoille> But that's all I could find.
[01:16] <frb-work> that should be enough
[01:17] <ardchoille> frb-work: But which kernel is on the live cd? That seems to be for 2.6.20-16
[01:17] <frb-work> I don't know off hand
[01:17] <stdin> the cd/dvd will have -15, but should have the same modules
[01:17] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[01:18] <stdin> just FYI, that module will be put in the linux-ubuntu-modules-* package in gutsy, and split to rt2500pci.ko and rt2500usb.ko :)
[01:18] <stdin> but you probably don't care about that
[01:18] <ardchoille> frb-work: btw, I found that with "dpkg -S rt2500.ko" that stdinjust taught me :)
[01:19] <frb-work> I don't have kubuntu installed, never have
[01:19] <stdin> !find rt2500.ko
[01:19] <ubotu> File rt2500.ko found in linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron
[01:19] <frb-work> as long as teh driver exists that supports my new card (and wow, it's OSS), I can do the rest though, I'm not a linux newb, just ubuntu
[01:19] <frb-work> oh, I was a debian maintainer long ago, so it's not completely new either :P
[01:20] <stdin> the !find command is an alias for the bot to do a dpkg -S on it's database, saves my CUP time
[01:20] <ardchoille> stdin: That's good to know
[01:20] <lewix> what do you use to read mp3
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> sweet!
[01:20] <lewix> vlc seems to freeze al lthe time
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> lewix: I useamarok
[01:20] <frb-work> I like amarok with the xine engine
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> lewix: you just need libxine-extracodecs
[01:21] <ardchoille> lewix: I use xmms to play mp3's, it plays them out of the box.. it has it's own mp3 codec
[01:21] <stdin> vlc uses libmad iirc
[01:21] <lewix> ardchoille, what do you mean outside the box
[01:21] <ardchoille> lewix: I mean install xmms and it can play mp3's without you having to install a codec
[01:22] <stdin> lewix: not "outside the box" "out of the box" means without any setup. like when you take a product "out of it's box" that it comes in
[01:25] <ardchoille> I love the repos. Since Warty came out, I haven't had to compile a thing.. and I think I've manually use dpkg twice.
[01:26] <kblin> hi folks
[01:26] <ardchoille> hi kblin
[01:26] <lewix> stdin, thanks, ardchoille the same thing happened as in vlc
[01:26] <lewix> with xmms
[01:26] <kblin> I somehow managed to bork my system today.. this morning, sound was still working, now it's shot
[01:27] <ardchoille> vlc sounds pretty nice
[01:27] <kblin> also knetworkmanager doesn't automatically connect to the wireless anymore, even though the key is in kwallet
[01:28] <lewix> ardchoille, lol waht do you mean....anyway how do I fix it
[01:28] <ardchoille> lewix: How do you ifx what?
[01:29] <kblin> I wouldn't mind the network manager too much, but sound being broken really annoys me
[01:29] <lewix> ardchoille, it keeps on freezing..vlc.xmms when I play mp3s
[01:32] <kblin> not even cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp gives me sound
[01:32] <lewix> huh kblin
[01:33] <kblin> I've of course checked and double-checked the sound is not muted
[01:34] <kblin> I don't think I updated anything
[01:34] <kblin> and I'm running out of ideas what the problem could be
[01:34] <kblin> I tried booting into an older kernel, that didn't fix it
[01:35] <kblin> I've created a new user and tried to log in as that user, but that wasn't it, either
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> kblin: does it work at all?
[01:35] <ardchoille> lewix: I don't know. I've never had trouble with xmms
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> oh... NM... sound
[01:36] <kblin> nosrednaekim: being my paranoid little self, I booted into windows to check if sound worked there.. just fine
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> heh.. whats the sound chip?
[01:36] <ardchoille> Yes, lots of things work in windows.. viruses.. trojans.. worms..
[01:37] <kblin> Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:37] <kblin> uses the snd_intel8x0 driver
[01:38] <lewix> ardchoille, obviously hte problem is somewhere else
[01:39] <ardchoille> How do I tell apt-get upgrade to upgrade everything except a certain app?
[01:39] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, there is a sound prob with (k)ubuntu due to the scattered apps that require integration (alsa kmix arts) so audio setup isn't as easy as it could be ...supposed to be fixed in Gutsy ...we hope
[01:39] <LjL> !pinning | ardchoille
[01:39] <ubotu> ardchoille: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:40] <ardchoille> Pinning? Ah, thanks LjL
[01:41] <LjL> ardchoille: trickier than you might think, though
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> kblin: hmm.... did you check that all the channels were enabled?
[01:41] <winbond> how do i get iptables to use a blacklist?
[01:42] <kblin> nosrednaekim: master is at 100%, pcm is at 81%, both aren't muted
[01:42] <LjL> ardchoille: you could always just dist-upgrade and then downgrade a single package using  apt-get install package=version-number , but that won't work if it has dependencies that were also updated, and you'll have to repeat it after each dist-upgrade
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> kblin: right click on the mixer and select "channels" make sure they are all displayed.
[01:43] <kblin> I was using alsamixer, but whatever
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> kblin: ah ok.... well, put ALL channels to max.
[01:44] <ardchoille> LjL: I think I'll try building from sources first, but thanks for the info.
[01:45] <kblin> no difference
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> kblin: and all are unmuted>?
[01:45] <kblin> nosrednaekim: I'm not muted on the hardware, and software claims I'm not muted either
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> you sure?
[01:46] <contrast83> ardchoille: i just saw what you're trying to do, there's an easier way than that
[01:47] <kblin> yes, shiny green lights in kmix, no MM in alsamixer, tpb shows a full bar for the hardware side of things
[01:47] <contrast83> ardchoille: sudo for i in <package-name>; do echo $i hold | dpkg --set-selections; done
[01:47] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, kblin ..70% max is plenty for the vol ctrls , otherewise you'll overdrive the speaker amp input into distortion
[01:48] <ardchoille> contrast83: I have kxdocker 0.35 installed on a test machine and sudo apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade it to a more recent version that's in the repos. But the recent version is broken.
[01:48] <kblin> BluesKaj: well, this is for getting any output for now.. I'd be happy with static for a start
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: not if its not even coming ou ;)
[01:49] <kblin> let me check if the sound is somehow disabled in the bios
[01:49] <contrast83> ardchoille: you could also just do "sudo aptitude hold kxdocker" and start using aptitude instead of apt-get
[01:49] <BluesKaj> kblin, I hate to state the obvious here but have you done this ? : k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[01:49] <kblin> yeah
[01:49] <kblin> been there
[01:50] <contrast83> ardchoille: but that won't keep it from being upgraded by adept
[01:50] <BluesKaj> ok, just making sure
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> kblin: did it ever work?
[01:50] <ardchoille> contrast83: Aptitude? Not a bad idea. I don't use adept.
[01:50] <kblin> this morning, it worked just fine
[01:50] <BluesKaj> what sound card , kblin ?
[01:50] <contrast83> ardchoille: synaptic? or no gui's at all?
[01:51] <kblin> BluesKaj: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:51] <kblin> this is a thinkpad r52
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> kblin: just this morning? did you do an upgrade?
[01:51] <kblin> never had problems with the hardware before
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> or update>
[01:51] <kblin> not that I'm aware of.. and I'm the only user
[01:52] <ardchoille> contrast83: I don't like gui's that are front ends when the back end is much faster
[01:52] <kblin> I did a suspend to disk and when I started it wasn't working for sure..
[01:52] <kblin> I had it muted for a while before that, so I can't say if it worked the moment before the suspend
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> kblin: turn off your computer... and pull out the battery.
[01:52] <orin> What's the difference between the default provided Kontact package and Korganizer? Which one should I use if I want to keep track of appointments and such?
[01:52] <contrast83> ardchoille: i'm the same way... but i do like a frontend for certain things, e.g., browsing through +20k packages. :-)
[01:53] <kblin> nosrednaekim: what's that supposed to do?
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> kblin: reset all the hardware stuff... thats how I fix my wifi when it craps out
[01:53] <contrast83> i believe aptitude's ncurses interface is supposed to be suitable for that though. getting familiar with that is on my to-do list atm
[01:53] <kblin> nosrednaekim: it was still working on windows when I gave that a try between trying an older kernel and getting back to current
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> oh..hmm ok
[01:54] <kblin> I can try again though. bbiaf
[01:54] <contrast83> orin: i thought kontact depended on korganizer?
[01:55] <orin> Okay.
[01:55] <contrast83> lol
[01:55] <contrast83> Okay.
[01:56] <Jucato> one very satisfied customer :)
[01:58] <contrast83> hehe
[01:58] <kblin> nosrednaekim, ok, so I'm sure it works on windows
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: customer of what?
[01:59] <kblin> which pretty much convinces me that it's a software issue
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> kblin: could be.... try booting a livecd?
[01:59] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: regarding orin (scroll up a bit)
[01:59] <kblin> but I'm really suprised that it happened without any update
[02:00] <kblin> hm, I need to see if I can find one
[02:00] <kblin> my line's a bit thin for getting an iso
[02:00] <ardchoille> What day is Gutsy to be released next month?
[02:01] <kcg> does anyone know the diff. between superkaramba and karamba?
[02:01] <Jucato> superkaramba is the current incarnation of karamba. karamba is deprecated (but the old themes still work)
[02:01] <Jucato> ardchoille: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: 26 comes off the top of my head..
[02:02] <ardchoille> superkaramba is karamba that has already changed clothes in a phone booth?
[02:02] <Jucato> Oct 18
[02:02] <dasKreech> Jucato: didn't you just go to bed?
[02:02] <ardchoille> Jucato, nosrednaekim: thanks
[02:02] <Jucato> dasKreech: 5 hours ago
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> ah...I was wrong :)
[02:02] <kcg> thx for the explanation
[02:03] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: you were a bit right. it's Week 26 of the development schedule :)
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> Actually.... that was KDE4's release date ;)
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> I get confused like that..
[02:03] <Jucato> :)
[02:06] <kblin> ack
[02:06] <kblin> dammit
[02:06] <kblin> now, the third time I reboot into linux today, everything's working
[02:07] <kblin> even networkmanager connects like it should
[02:07] <Zabulus> anyone know anything about usb mice freezing after a couple minutes in 7.04?
[02:07] <kblin> what kind of linux is this, allowing me to fix problems by rebooting a couple of times? ;)
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> wow..
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> kblin: did you try pulling out the battery?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: never seen it
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> Zabulus: maybe there is a bug though.
[02:09] <Zabulus> well, ive looked around, people mention it in several places, but ive been unable to find a suitable fix
[02:09] <kblin> nosrednaekim: nope. just booted into windows, shut that down again, and when booting again, as soon as the kernel was up, I had a feedback beep that I could mute just fast enough to wake my significant other anyway ;)
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> wow... :)
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> dunno what to say..
[02:11] <dasKreech> BluesKaj: Which is?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> lucky you :)
[02:11] <BluesKaj> my significant other
[02:11] <dasKreech> ah right :)
[02:11] <dasKreech> I don't have a girlfriend
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> pretty safe I think..
[02:12] <dasKreech> I just know a girl who would be real angry if she heard me say that
[02:12] <BluesKaj> personally I think it's too PC for my taste , but ...to each his/her own I guess
[02:12] <Zabulus> well, im gonna leave this open, so if anyone finds out how to fix the mouse problem, just message me, i should get it eventually
[02:12] <dasKreech> BluesKaj: Ambiguity is in
[02:12] <dasKreech> Ask those who took out home loans!
[02:13] <BluesKaj> consumers!
[02:13] <BluesKaj> we're nothing but revenue generators
[02:13] <kblin> hehe
[02:14] <MojoPikon> Hi everybody =D
[02:14] <kblin> be darned, even the dmesg output is identical, apart from the timestamp
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> heh.... and pretty dumb ones at that
[02:14] <BluesKaj> kblin, NM me I'm just old and grumpy and like to rant every so often
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> hello MojoPikon
[02:15] <kblin> BluesKaj: it's two in the morning, I expect everybody has the right to be grumpy at that time of day :)
[02:15] <dasKreech> kblin: Leave Grandpa alone!!
[02:16] <ardchoille> lol
[02:16] <kblin> anyway, thanks for the help everyone..
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> kblin: NP
[02:21] <SalsaDoom> Hi fellas. Is there any documentation on how to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to something else? I can only find docs for Ubuntu, nothing Kubuntu specific
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> SalsaDoom: the command line version of the instructions are exactly the same
[02:22] <SalsaDoom> Well, it seems to be that the command line version very clearly not recomended
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> SalsaDoom: ah..
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> hmm
[02:23] <MojoPikon> salsadoom: vim /etc/apt/sources.list <enter>  <esc> :1,$s/edgy/feisty <enter> <esc> :wq <enter>  apt-get dist-upgrade <enter> may be the way =D
[02:23] <Mr_Sonoma> i've used it in the past
[02:23] <MojoPikon> (oh, I forgot "apt-get update" before apt-get dist-upgrade, sorry) ^^
[02:24] <SalsaDoom> Erhm, thats too bad.
[02:24] <MojoPikon> why? I did it 10 minutes ago on my iBook... it just works =D
[02:26] <SalsaDoom> Well, I believe that it worked for you, but I'm doing this remotely and when its clearly labeled that it will break things, I'm inclined to believe you are a lucky person and that I probably would not be
[02:26] <ardchoille> MojoPikon: It may work for you, but it may break everything for others. I did that and both times (diff releases) it broke almost everything.
[02:28] <ardchoille> SalsaDoom: Someone noted that in order for it to work right, you have to do a fresh install, then before anything else, do the upgrade.
[02:28] <dasKreech> SalsaDoom: third party repos?
[02:29] <contrast83> !worksforme
[02:29] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[02:30] <SalsaDoom> ardchoille, hmmm, I think I'll just play it safe ;P
[02:30] <dasKreech> SalsaDoom: third party repos?
[02:30] <SalsaDoom> dasKreech, perhaps that'll work just as well. Really the computer works fine, 6.06 isn't really old or bad in any way. Its just that its my moms computer, and shes got some hardware that isn't supported on 6.06.
[02:30] <SalsaDoom> Well, a little webcam thingy
[02:31] <dasKreech> SalsaDoom: did You try to install the webcam ?
[02:31] <SalsaDoom> If the upgrade path was simple, then that would have done the job fine, but since its not your probably on the money when you suggest a 3rd party repo.
[02:31] <SalsaDoom> dasKreech, of course ;)
[02:31] <SalsaDoom> Its just not supported by 6.06's old kernel version
[02:31] <dasKreech> Ah
[02:32] <ardchoille> SalsaDoom: Laso, 6.06 is an LTS release.. supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server.
[02:32] <dasKreech> ardchoille: Pointless if it doesn't work
[02:32] <ardchoille> True
[02:34] <Doctor_Nick> :Q
[02:34] <Doctor_Nick> :F
[02:34] <dasKreech> hydrogen: Where is alfred?
[02:35] <hydrogen> New York!
[02:36] <dasKreech> hydrogen: Ah Ok
[02:41] <swanfl> does anyone here run kubuntu through vmware?
[02:41] <dasKreech> swanfl: I wanna
[02:41] <swanfl> you wanna?
[02:44] <dasKreech> Yup
[02:44] <swanfl> so you don't right now? oh too bad
[02:44] <swanfl> I need help with vmware tools
[02:44] <Biovore> I don't ussualy mess with vmware tools..
[02:45] <Biovore> dosn't work as nice as it does on windows..
[02:45] <swanfl> right, but I need to be able ot switch between the guest and the host
[02:46] <swanfl> especially when copying from one and pasting to the other
[02:46] <Biovore> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-edgy-eft/
[02:46] <Biovore> That for edgy.. but I think the same procedure still applies
[02:46] <Biovore> I havn't tried the vmware tools thing for pasting..
[02:47] <Biovore> the guest resize to fit window thing does work.. but you have to manualy start the thing that does it..
[02:47] <swanfl> ah
[02:47] <ardchoille> What is it? Gutsy ? and ? Herron?
[02:47] <swanfl> Herron?
[02:47] <ardchoille> Happy Herron?
[02:47] <swanfl> I'm working on feisty
[02:47] <Biovore> Herron is the releasy after gusty
[02:47] <Biovore> hasn't started development yet..
[02:48] <ardchoille> Right
[02:48] <swanfl> hey there's another question, how do I upgrade to gutsy from feisty
[02:48] <ardchoille> Gutsy Gibbon?
[02:48] <Biovore> there will be help on that soon..
[02:48] <Biovore> gusty is still getting finalized
[02:50] <swanfl> ok cool
[02:50] <swanfl> how do I upgrade to kde 3.5.7?
[02:51] <Biovore> compile it..
[02:51] <dasKreech> !info libxine-extracodecs
[02:51] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[02:51] <dasKreech> !info libxine-extracodecs gutsy
[02:51] <swanfl> compile it?
[02:51] <Biovore> as download the source.. and build it..
[02:51] <swanfl> there is nothing in the repositories?
[02:51] <Biovore> nope
[02:51] <swanfl> ouch
[02:51] <Biovore> not for feisty
[02:52] <Biovore> not much has changed anyway
[02:52] <dasKreech> !info libxine-extracodecs gutsy
[02:52] <swanfl> I suppose that's true
[02:52] <dasKreech> !ping
[02:52] <ubotu> pong
[02:52] <dasKreech> !info libxine-extracodecs gutsy
[02:52] <Biovore> its there
[02:59] <dasKreech> Biovore: libxine-extra ?
[03:01] <Jucato> Biovore: KDE 3.5.7 for Feisty? compile it?
[03:02] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[03:02] <Jucato> when swanfl comes back, can someone please point him to that link ^^^
[03:02] <Biovore> ah.. I see 3rd parity repos
[03:02] <Jucato> er... kubuntu.org is not 3rd party
[03:02] <dasKreech> Jucato: am I nuts or did libxine Disappear?
[03:02] <Jucato> (but yeah you put it in the 3rd party tab...)
[03:02] <Biovore> well have to add it..
[03:03] <Jucato> !info libxine1-ffmpeg gutsy | dasKreech
[03:03] <ubotu> daskreech: libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB
[03:03] <Biovore> lol
[03:04] <Jucato> yes, extracodecs is gone
[03:04] <Biovore> it doesn't like you
[03:04] <dasKreech> Jucato: wasn't it a meta package?
[03:04] <Jucato> sort of. it just installed libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:04] <ardchoille> Jucato: does ffmpeg replace extracodecs?
[03:04] <Jucato> it's deprecated now in favor of kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:04] <Jucato> ardchoille: yes
[03:05] <ardchoille> ok
[03:05] <dasKreech> Jucato: No it didn't it installed libmad and One other
[03:05] <Mr_Sonoma> the restricted extras packages are gone in gutsy?
[03:05] <Jucato> Mr_Sonoma: no
[03:06] <Jucato> dasKreech: what didn't install libmad?
[03:07] <dasKreech> Jucato: It didn't just install ffmpegg it installed libmad as well as one other I think
[03:07] <dasKreech> I just did it this morning
[03:07] <Jucato> dasKreech: um... look at the depends of libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:08] <dasKreech> Jucato: ah :) Of course :)
[03:09] <dasKreech> How come it moved to universe? the license on MP3 changed?
[03:10] <dasKreech> !find freecol
[03:10] <ubotu> Package/file freecol does not exist in feisty
[03:10] <dasKreech> Hmm
[03:10] <dasKreech> Jucato: thanks Glad it's still just one easy file instead of the alphabet soup for gstreamer :)
[03:11] <ardchoille> lol @ alphabet soup
[03:11] <Jucato> well ubuntu users have one easy file now too
[03:11] <dasKreech> Bout time
[03:11] <Jucato> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:11] <Jucato> :P
[03:16] <newsense07> i installed the borealis sound theme and it works fine for me but my girlfriend wants it too, how do i set it as her default kde sound theme ?
[03:19] <_stderr> hola, tengo un problema, acabo de instalar kubuntu feisty x86_64, y se me cuelga de ves en cuando, pero mal, alguna solucion, ya intente con acpi=off, pero ni me arranca :S
[03:19] <Jucato> !es | _stderr
[03:19] <ubotu> _stderr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:19] <_stderr> ubotu: ups sorry!
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ups sorry! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <dasKreech> Jucato: that kubunut-restricted-extras is really kinda extra
[03:24] <dasKreech> !info freeciv
[03:24] <ubotu> Package freeciv does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:24] <dasKreech> !info freeciv-data
[03:24] <ubotu> freeciv-data: Civilization turn based strategy game (game data). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 3819 kB, installed size 11320 kB
[03:30] <droach> i cant get file sharing to work in feisty fawn
[03:30] <slackern> dasKreech: i think freeciv and freeciv-client are virtual packages or what they are called
[03:30] <BluesKaj> dasKreech, what extras are in it ...don't see anything that most media stuff already needs or has
[03:31] <slackern> !info freeciv-client-gtk
[03:31] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[03:32] <BluesKaj> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:32] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-restricted-extras does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's only in gutsy
[03:32] <Jucato> it installs flashplugin-nonfree, sun-java6-plugin, libxine1-ffmpeg, libdvdread3, libk3b2-mp3, liblame0, unrar, libtunepimp5-mp3
[03:32] <BluesKaj> ok, already looked ant the tar file contents
[03:33] <Jucato> the what? O.o
[03:33] <BluesKaj> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/k/kubuntu-restricted-extras/
[03:34] <Jucato> BluesKaj: have you tried http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[03:34] <Jucato> quite very useful. like apt-cache and apt-file in one
[03:35] <Jucato> kubuntu-restricted-extras is just a metapackage, so it doesn't really contain much itself
[03:36] <rockets> I'm installing Kubuntu on top of a normal ubuntu install but i dont want to replace the non-kde look and feel, e.g. gdm and the regular ubuntu usplash theme
[03:36] <rockets> i already unmarked those in synaptic
[03:36] <rockets> anything im missing?
[03:38] <dasKreech> KDE?
[03:38] <rockets> dasKreech, nono
[03:38] <rockets> im saying
[03:38] <rockets> did i miss UNMARKING anything
[03:38] <rockets> i already marked kubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <rockets> so that marked off tons of stuff to install
[03:39] <dasKreech> rockets: I'm saying that you are missing out on KDE. Go man! install!!!
[03:39] <dasKreech> Like a rocket!!
[03:39] <rockets> oh
[03:39] <rockets> lol
[03:40] <BluesKaj> Jucato, dunno if I'm gonna go Gutsy , from what i see so far the ati drivers won't do DRI and 3D for apps like google earth , so I'm gonna wait til I hear about successful setups with my kind of hardware .
[03:40] <rockets> BluesKaj, ATI driver does DRI, it doesnt do composite
[03:41] <rockets> composite is coming next month
[03:41] <BluesKaj> no kidding :)
[03:41] <BluesKaj> got it "0" in the xorg file
[03:52] <BluesKaj> rockets, I'm using a modded and patched fglrx driver for lower end ati onboard graphics , which is sufficient for my needs
[03:53] <rockets> BluesKaj, huh how is that possible, its not open source, how is it modifie
[03:53] <rockets> modified*
[03:54] <BluesKaj> rockets, check this site http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[03:55] <rockets> i alrweird.
[03:55] <rockets> weird*
[03:55] <rockets> well if it works it works
[03:56] <BluesKaj> quite a few ppl with the X200M up to 1400 Radeon graphics have used that tutorial successfully
[03:57] <Doctor_Nick> :E
[03:58] <BluesKaj> rockets , i've even got it working in conjunction with my TV Wonder Pro capture card and tvtime .
[03:58] <rockets> ocol
[03:58] <rockets> cool*
[03:58] <rockets> so you have the .38 driver?
[03:59] <rockets> Because I can't reccomend the .41 driver enough. IT works great even on unsupported cards
[03:59] <rockets> I have it on my X1150M
[03:59] <rockets> a laptop integrated card
[03:59] <rockets> read: peice of junk
[04:00] <BluesKaj> rockets, no mine is the .35.5
[04:00] <rockets> ok
[04:01] <BluesKaj> is the .41 the new ati offering that was in the news a few weeks back ?
[04:01] <rockets> BluesKaj, yes, the one with the huge performance boosts
[04:02] <rockets> it works so amazingly compared to the older fglrx
[04:02] <rockets> annnnnd the catalyst control center isnt useless anymore
[04:02] <BluesKaj> oh, din't know it was available already
[04:02] <rockets> yup
[04:02] <BluesKaj> ati site?
[04:02] <rockets> BluesKaj, yeah but at the driver download site, say that you have an HD series card
[04:02] <rockets> otherwise you can only download the older one
[04:03] <rockets> .42 supports all cards officially
[04:03] <BluesKaj> oh really ?
[04:03] <rockets> .41 doesnt
[04:03] <rockets> .42 is out next month
[04:03] <BluesKaj> ok, maybe I'll wait til then ...works in gutsy I assume ?
[04:03] <rockets> im sure it does.
[04:03] <rockets> oh actually
[04:03] <eddyspagetty> hi, how can i add with the "ls" command the content of subfolders?
[04:04] <rockets> you never know, it might have been released after the feature freeze
[04:04] <NickPresta> eddyspagetty, `ls -R`
[04:04] <rockets> eddyspagetty, theres no such thing as a folder
[04:04] <eddyspagetty> thc
[04:04] <rockets> its a directory
[04:04] <eddyspagetty> thx
[04:04] <NickPresta> eddyspagetty, `man ls` for more information
[04:05] <rockets> NickPresta, when I ask somebody for help and they just tell me "man foo" I feel like hitting them.
[04:05] <Jucato> you might feel better with man:foo in Konqueror?
[04:05] <rixon> #foo works too, also in alt+f2
[04:05] <rockets> har har
[04:05] <rixon> (:
[04:05] <NickPresta> rockets, I agree with you but for `ls`, there isn't much I can say without more information. I would assume `man ls` and looking at the various options shouldn't be too tough, right?
[04:06] <rockets> NickPresta, yes but if somebody wanted to read the man page they wouldnt be asking
[04:06] <rockets> or maybe he looked and missed it so hes asking here
[04:06] <Jucato> but if they didn't know about "man ls", they would still be asking :)
[04:06] <NickPresta> rockets, I told him `ls -R` and if he wasn't aware of `ls`, he would certainly be interested in `man ls` :)
[04:06] <rockets> NickPresta, he mentioned ls
[04:07] <rockets> he knew ls
[04:07] <rockets> but its possible he doesnt know about man
[04:07] <NickPresta> rockets, okay, I'll defer all problems to you :)
[04:07] <rockets> NickPresta, great!
[04:07] <Jucato> at least NickPresta answered directly, then suggested reading the man page for more info
[04:07] <gary_> hello
[04:07] <NickPresta> !hi | gary_
[04:07] <ubotu> gary_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:08] <eddyspagetty> NickPresta: thx, that was the command i searched :)
[04:08] <dasKreech> Doctor_Nick: What are those for?
[04:10] <nzk> Whenever I set a resolution of higher than 1024x768 in either GNOME or KDE, there are artifacts all over the screen, and it's hard to describe. It's basically tiled, as a wallpaper would be if you set it to "tiled" should it be lower than your resolution, but with horrendous artifacts everywhere. This happened after I dpkg reconfigured xorg. Is there anything short of reinstallation of Ubuntu that I can do to fix this problem?
[04:11] <Minataku> nzk: Reconfigure xorg again
[04:11] <nzk> Again?
[04:11] <nzk> :\
[04:11] <nzk> What's the command, again?
[04:12] <Minataku> Me, I would use "sudo xorgconfig"
[04:12] <nzk> This same problem led to 7 of my 40 or so reformats in the past year.
[04:12] <Minataku> Which does it all manually via CLI
[04:12] <Minataku> You'll need to know the hardware you have exactly
[04:12] <Minataku> Since it seems that the automatic configuration is failing
[04:13] <nzk> 'xorgconfig - command not found'
[04:13] <Minataku> ...
[04:13] <Minataku> What the heck
[04:13] <darth> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:13] <Minataku> darth: We need a manual configuration
[04:14] <Minataku> Don't tell me, BTW, that *buntu takes xorgconfig out
[04:14] <Minataku> Darkrift412: Do they?
[04:14] <Minataku> Er
[04:14] <Minataku> darth
[04:14] <Minataku> Sorry, Darkrift412
[04:14] <nzk> darth: :\ It'll screw it up again.
[04:15] <darth> oops ! there should be a space between reconfigure and xserver-xorg
[04:15] <darth> I thought that was the manual way of doing it or am I missing something?
[04:15] <Minataku> I dunno
[04:15] <Minataku> I don't use Kubuntu or even Debian anymore
[04:16] <Minataku> I replaced Debian with NetBSD on the machine that ran it
[04:16] <darth> I'm on Kubuntu 7.04 .How do you like BSD?
[04:18] <nzk> Argh.
[04:18] <nzk> I don't want to reformat because I'll lose all my crap.
[04:19] <gary_> question: has anyone figured a way to correctly set up an MS Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2?  I think it's 9 buttons, since the wheel scrolls up/down, left/right and middleclick
[04:20] <gary_> it has 2 thumb buttons which are supposed to nav back and forward along with the standard left and right buttons
[04:20] <Minataku> darth: NetBSD I like very much
[04:20] <Minataku> FreeBSD I don't care for too much
[04:22] <dasKreech> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297501,00.html
[04:22] <dasKreech> :-D
[04:22] <dasKreech> nice screenshot
[04:29] <BluesKaj> Minataku, netBSD doesn't see my ethernet card ...guess i have to config it manually
[04:30] <rockets> Yaay I have the KDEs now!
[04:30] <dasKreech> rockets: and the Iraq :)
[04:30] <dasKreech> Like such as
[04:31] <rockets> dasKreech, what a great SNL skit
[04:31] <dasKreech> rockets: All I gotta say is alt+space and alt+Ctrl+A
[04:31] <darlok> Could someone please tell me how to mount a VCD disc?
[04:34] <greencookie> whassup
[04:44] <darlok> Could someone please tell me how to mount a VCD disc?
[04:44] <Biovore> isn't a VCD a iso image.. just like a normal cd..
[04:45] <Biovore> with a mpeg file on it..
[04:45] <darlok> Biovore: I'm not sure... I just know it won't mount and "mplayer vcd://1" doesn't work.
[04:46] <stdin> mplayer vcd:///dev/dvd ?
[04:46] <darlok> stdin: It's in my CD drive, not DVD.  Does that matter?
[04:47] <stdin> no, /dev/dvd should point to the read /dev/whatever device
[04:47] <stdin> same as /dev/cdrom
[04:47] <darlok> stdin: Hmm... tried it in my DVD-ROM and this time mplayer tried to play it, but then exited with a "End of file" message
[04:49] <frb> ok, so I have a new PC, and I put in the Kubuntu 7.04 dvd, and booted up
[04:49] <darlok> Even VLC can't play it.
[04:49] <frb> it went through the progressbar, but now I have a blank screen
[04:49] <darlok> Oh well, I'll mess with it later.  Thanks.
[04:50] <frb> there is a blinking underscore cursor at the top left
[04:50] <frb> and if I hit enter, it goes down one line
[04:50] <frb> looks like the nv driver doesn't like me
[04:51] <frb> can I do a full install from text mode?
[04:51] <stdin> frb: if you use the alternate cd
[04:51] <frb> all I have is the 64bit dvd :/
[04:51] <Jucato> stdin: I think the dvd has that feature?
[04:51] <frb> how about force VESA?
[04:52] <stdin> ohh, you're using the DVD, then yeah
[04:52] <frb> ugh, I just looked at lspci, my entire system is "nVidia Corporation Unknown device"
[04:52] <Jucato> frb: when you boot up the DVD, do you get to a menu asking you which installation you want to do?
[04:52] <frb> Jucato: I did get the grub menu
[04:53] <Jucato> there should be an option there to install in text mode?
[04:54] <frb> I have start or install, start or install in safe graphics mode, and the rest are useless
[04:55] <Jucato> hm... that would be strange...
[04:57] <frb> well, safe graphics seems to work
[05:06] <lewix>  i typed in apt-get update and I see a couple of file being updates in the cmd. Then I see adept update that has files in the waitlist waiting for my approval to update them
[05:07] <lewix> I don't get it
 I thought apt-get already did the job
[05:07] <Jucato> apt-get update just checks for updates.
[05:07] <lewix> ooh so how do I install update with apt-get
[05:07] <Jucato> it doesn't really upgrade anything. that's what apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade is for
[05:07] <lewix> ah ok
[05:08] <lewix> now I see
[05:08] <Jucato> sudo apt-get upgrade <--- safe upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- full upgrade
[05:08] <lewix> Jucato, what the difference
[05:09] <Jucato> safe and full :)
[05:09] <lewix> i dont get it
[05:10] <Jucato> upgrade just upgrades what you have installed. it doesn't install anything new that you don't have yet
[05:10] <Jucato> so for example, if you already have package A installed, and a new version of package A is available, but needs package B to be installed too, it won't upgrade package A
[05:10] <lewix> ok
[05:10] <lewix> thanks Jucato
[05:10] <Jucato> dist-upgrade does the full thing. hook, line and sinker
[05:13] <Zabulus> has anyone had any problems with usb mice freezing randomly?
[05:15] <nixternal> Zabulus: only when the battery starts to die...but I think I have noticed it once or twice previously with my wireless usb microsoft mouse
[05:15] <Zabulus> im not even talking wireless
[05:16] <Zabulus> wired laser mouse, usb, when i start up kubuntu, it works fine for a little while, then freezes
[05:16] <Zabulus> can still use the keyboard though
[05:16] <frb> I think kubuntu just hung
[05:16] <nixternal> hrmm, I have a wired laser mouse and don't think I have ever noticed an issue
[05:17] <frb> I managed to boot in safe graphics mode, ran the install, booted, got past grub
[05:17] <frb> now I have a blue triple gear image, a progress bar that stopped with maybe 1% complete
[05:18] <frb> if I use ctrl-alt-F1, it just says "Loading, please wait..." and has a flashing cursor
[05:18] <frb> now it dropped me to /bin/sh in the initramfs
[05:22] <dasKreech> run a fsck ?
[05:23] <frb> can't, it doesn't seem to detect the hd
[05:23] <dasKreech> no /dev ?
[05:24] <frb> alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> does not exist.
[05:24] <dasKreech> Right of course
[05:29] <rockets> Is there any way to make conversation display the channel list more like xchat does
[05:29] <rockets> the list in a box on the left hand side
[05:29] <rockets> i dont like tabs
[05:29] <stdin> rockets: Settings > configure konversation > tabs
[05:30] <rockets> stdin, i looked there
[05:30] <rockets> when i tell it to put the tabs on the left they just dissapear
[05:30] <rockets> ah nvr mind
[05:30] <rockets> there it goes
[05:30] <rockets> im dumb
[05:30] <rockets> hehe
[05:30] <frb> rockets: you could also try kvirc, it seems to be much more like xchat, without the suck
[05:30] <nixternal> hehe
[05:31] <rockets> xchat doesnt suck!
[05:31] <nixternal> ya, and I maintain kvirc :)
[05:31] <stdin> rockets: well that's the setting that does it
[05:31] <rockets> anyway its fine now
[05:31] <rockets> thanks
[05:33] <frb> I prefer tabs on the top, I just got tired of changing it, so now it's on the left
[05:34] <stdin> if you have more than 4 tabs open, the bottom/top becomes a very restrictive area
[05:34] <frb> if I have more than 4 tabs open, I know it's time to leave some channels
[05:34] <rockets> yeah
[05:35] <rockets> grr how do i tell kde to use pulseaudio
[05:35] <rockets> im looking in the sound system
[05:35] <rockets> i see Esd
[05:35] <rockets> alsa
[05:35] <rockets> OSS
[05:37] <frb> ok, so the livecd is booting again, and will boot fine
[05:38] <frb> after installing, it won't boot fine
[05:38] <frb> how can I fix this ?
[05:39] <rockets> stdin, who is this someone
[05:39] <dasKreech> frb: how far does it reach?
[05:40] <frb> when I boot the installed system, it doesn't reach anything, it loads /bin/sh with a (initramfs) prompt
[05:41] <rockets> grrrrr pulseaudio
[05:42] <rockets> argh
[05:42] <rockets> i got it working through such a hack
[05:42] <rockets> installed the Esd compatibility library for pulse
[05:42] <rockets> and told kde to use ESD
[05:42] <stdin> rockets: just some guy who likes to complain a lot rather than change one setting
[05:42] <rockets> stdin, grr.
[05:42] <lewix> how do I start the sound server: artsd &?
[05:43] <gangbk> my wmv9 porn ain't workin, can somebody help ???!!! PLEASE ???  I BEG OF YOU!!!!
[05:43] <rockets> stdin, btw are there any hacks to get gmail working with konqueror? i changed my user agent
[05:43] <rockets> gangbk are you serious?
[05:43] <gangbk> :)
[05:43] <kloplop> how do I fix this error? "sudo: /var/run/sudo/kloplop owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0"
[05:43] <rockets> gangbk, either way when all else fails use VLC
[05:43] <gangbk> bahhh
[05:43] <lewix> I installed the last version of flash but I still have trouble watching videos
[05:43] <rockets> kaffeine+xine plays wmv just fine
[05:43] <lewix> how do I start the sound server: artsd &?
[05:44] <dasKreech> frb: Maybe try a new parameter on the grub?
[05:44] <stdin> rockets: don't think so, they use some doggy javascript on gmail
[05:44] <gangbk> does it ?  wmv9 doesn't work
[05:44] <dasKreech> frb: laptop?
[05:44] <frb> dasKreech: no, crazy-new PC
[05:44] <gangbk> maybe i have to upgrade codecs ?
[05:44] <stdin> kloplop: try "sudo -K"
[05:45] <kloplop> same
[05:45] <dasKreech> frb: that might be an issue. how crazy new? Barcelona?
[05:45] <frb> not that new
[05:45] <frb> NV 7025/630a motherboard
[05:45] <kloplop> I changed the folder permissions on the /var/ folder and some how broke the sudo opperations and recieve this error:sudo: /var/run/sudo/kloplop owned by uid 1000, should be uid 0
[05:46] <frb> oddly enough, it looks like my wireless card may be the only thing working flawlessly
[05:46] <dasKreech> frb
[05:46] <dasKreech> ha did you try Gutsy?
[05:46] <frb> nope, I just picked up 7.04 because I don't like betas
[05:47] <frb> I think I have a suse 10.2 dvd around here somewhere too though
[05:47] <gangbk> what is the difference between 7.04 and 6.06 ?
[05:47] <stdin> kloplop: general rule, don't change permissions on a top level directory.  try "rm /var/run/sudo/kloplop" then you should change the permissions back, they were like that for a reason
[05:48] <rockets> gangbk, 6.06 is much older . . . 7.04 is a much smoother desktop experience.
[05:48] <kloplop> thanks, I will try that
[05:48] <Biovore> 6.06 is the long term support version..
[05:48] <stdin> gangbk: 6.06 was released in 2006/06 and 7.04 was released in 2007/04
[05:48] <Biovore> other versions only have a 2 year life span
[05:48] <rockets> if you want LTS wait till the release after gutsy, 6.06 is too dated
[05:48] <kloplop> it wouldn't let me remove the folder, permision denied
[05:48] <gangbk> i just installed 6.06 ... have it up and running well... except the wmv9 problem
[05:48] <rockets> unless you MUST have lts now
[05:48] <Jucato> Biovore: make that 18 months
[05:48] <dasKreech> !w32codecs
[05:48] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:49] <gangbk> awesome
[05:49] <Biovore> Jucato: rgr. its something like that.. veries
[05:49] <stdin> never varies, always 18 months unless LTS
[05:50] <gangbk> i just need something stable and supported ... just for net access
[05:50] <Jucato> LTS is ideally rock stable (YMMV)... and a bit dated because of that stability
[05:50] <gangbk> is there an apt-get for newest codecs ?
[05:50] <Jucato> (just like Debian stable)
[05:51] <Biovore> yeah.. LTS is good for servers realy.. desktop it a bit outdated
[05:51] <kloplop> I am still getting access denied and rm /var/run/sudo/kloplop replies "Access denied"
[05:51] <Jucato> Biovore: believe it or not, some user like it that way :/
[05:52] <stdin> kloplop: you need to reboot then, that will remove the file
[05:52] <Jucato> users*
[05:52] <Biovore> yeah.. I use LTS on workstation machines...
[05:52] <Jucato> on desktops I mean...
[05:52] <Biovore> Things I need to have in a stable configuration for longer then 18 months.
[05:52] <kloplop> ok, I will come back then.
[05:52] <Biovore> LTS -> Work
[05:53] <Biovore> STS -> Play
[05:53] <stdin> LTS ha, I'm not even running a stable version of Kubuntu (And haven't for over a year)
[05:53] <dasKreech> kloplop: or sudo
[05:53] <Jucato> cuting edge -> work :)
[05:53] <Jucato> cutting*
[05:53] <Biovore> I have a box still running brezzy
[05:53] <gangbk> :(  stdin
[05:53] <frb-home> ok, so wireless works fine from the livecd environment
[05:54] <stdin> almost as soon as the toolchain for hardy is released I'll upgrade again
[05:54] <frb-home> konq can't resolve google, but konversation works
[05:54] <Jucato> stdin: I usually wait until the 3rd or 4th alpha... but depends on my mood heheh
[05:54] <dasKreech> Jucato: it's reverse logic
[05:54] <bigleon> \
[05:55] <stdin> Jucato: this is my "play" machine, I have a desktop with edgy/feisty dualboot if I really need it :)
[05:55] <dasKreech> bleeding edge is newer. Though the idea is that it's so cutting edge it's covered with blood. Though of course that should take longer ....
[05:55] <frb-home> actually, konq can't connect to anything
[05:55] <gangbk> has anyone had their windows installation sp2 cd not recognize its own files on an install ?
[05:55] <dasKreech> I have a warty box somewhere
[05:55] <Jucato> frb-home: it might be a DNS problem... how to solve that... I don't really know :(
[05:55] <NickPresta> gangbk, I've had Windows SP2 do a lot of strange things :)
[05:56] <frb-home> Jucato: irc works fine, ssh works fine
[05:56] <Jucato> frb-home: yes. that happens usually with DNS problems.
[05:56] <Jucato> IRC works but not HTTP
[05:56] <kloplop> Thankyou for helping me, stdin
[05:56] <Biovore> frb-home: Many people have complained of this.. I havn't been able to get this problem to show up here.. :-/
[05:56] <gangbk> it said missing files la la la ... please insert Windows Sp2 CD... uh this is the one Dell gave me, it says Windows Sp2 reinstallation CD
[05:56] <stdin> kloplop: so you can sudo again now?
[05:56] <Biovore> so I can't tell you want is actualy wrong
[05:57] <gangbk> i must be retarded
[05:57] <gangbk> the best thing is when it couldn't recognize its own built in Wifi card
[05:58] <raquel> I'm having issues with adept - I've already ran the donsole to
[05:58] <raquel> sudo apt-get -f install:
[05:58] <raquel> oh that was the wrong paste
[05:59] <gangbk> sudo apt-get install  ????
[05:59] <raquel> dpkg --configure -a
[05:59] <stdin> you mean...
[05:59] <stdin> !aptfix
[05:59] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:59] <stdin> ?
[05:59] <raquel> that didn't do anything
[05:59] <gangbk> are you trying to install adept ?
[06:00] <frb-home> w3m works
[06:00] <frb-home> so it must be a kde lib/app didn't reread the resolv.conf
[06:00] <gangbk> nmd
[06:01] <raquel> how do I run adept from the console in order that I can see what it's doing?
[06:01] <Jucato> adept_manager
[06:01] <raquel> (and yeah did that sudo fuser thing too)
[06:01] <Jucato> er.. kdesu adept_manager
[06:02] <kloplop> yes I can do sudo and kdesu again, thanks.
[06:02] <raquel> raquel@:~$ kdesu adept_manager
[06:02] <raquel> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[06:02] <stdin> !paste | raquel
[06:02] <ubotu> raquel: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <raquel>   Major opcode:  143
[06:03] <raquel>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:03] <stdin> !baddevice | raquel
[06:03] <ubotu> raquel: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:03] <raquel>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:03] <Jucato> bah..
[06:03] <Jucato> quiet doesn't work
[06:03] <stdin> was just about to do that actually
[06:03] <stdin> works here
[06:03] <stdin> ie: no flood :)
[06:03] <Jucato> ah only I see it :)
[06:03] <frb-home> apt-get works
[06:04] <Jucato> raquel: next time, don't paste multiple lines inside the channel
[06:04] <frb-home> afk
[06:05] <raquel> jucato - I don't usually - it's just more time efficient at the moment
[06:05] <NickPresta> !attitude | raquel
[06:05] <ubotu> raquel: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:05] <raquel> that and 'this nick belongs to someone else
[06:05] <Jucato> time efficient?
[06:05] <stdin> tough :) no flooding  kthks
[06:05] <rockets> I feel like this is a silly question
[06:05] <rockets> but how can i make katapult start at the beginning of every session
[06:05] <rockets> WITHOUT having to save the session
[06:05] <Jucato> !autostart | rockets
[06:05] <ubotu> rockets: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:06] <rockets> ah ok
[06:06] <NickPresta> I thought the same time, Jucato :)
[06:07] <newbi> hi
[06:07] <raquel> fine I understand - is there a fix for this - or do I sscrap this instal and start from scratch again
[06:07] <NickPresta> s/time/thing/ god I'm tired
[06:07] <NickPresta> raquel, I believe stdin already provided a solution.
[06:07] <NickPresta> !baddevice | raquel
[06:07] <ubotu> raquel: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:08] <raquel> that is not the actuall issue = read the rest = ie about the server
[06:10] <newbi> im looking to install my webcam "trust wb 5400"the option camorama doenst work with it
[06:10] <dasKreech> !webcam
[06:10] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:10] <stdin> raquel: we didn't see the rest, you were muted. paste it to pastebin
[06:11] <SeanTater> kmix will play my microphone though my speakers, which is good. So where does it get that information so I can record it?
[06:13] <newbi> how do i open an exe file to place my own drivers for my webcam can work?
[06:13] <raquel> ok so on this tex bin thing -= how do I show it here now
[06:13] <stdin> post the url here
[06:14] <newbi> do i change the extention exe to tar,rar,zip or what so ever?
[06:14] <stdin> newbi: you don't, you can't use windows drivers because they are windows drivers
[06:14] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38207/
[06:14] <dasKreech> I'm still confused as to how to set the Buttons on my multimedia keyboard to a channel of my soundcard
[06:16] <raquel> newbi - try Wine to run them
[06:16] <Biovore> well windows drivers probably won't work on linux..
[06:16] <newbi> raquel: wine??why will i want to run wine for my webcam?how will it work for kopete?
[06:17] <stdin> take out the "probably" in that sentence and it'll be true
[06:17] <xgod069> hello anyone albe to help with kubuntu
[06:17] <gangbk> lol
[06:17] <gangbk> windows drivers sometimes don't even work for windows  :)
[06:17] <Biovore> stdin: well there is ndis..
[06:17] <raquel> It won't but it could run with the Windows version of Messenger
[06:17] <Biovore> but thats for wifi cards mostly
[06:17] <newbi> rap
[06:17] <dasKreech> xgod069: that's what this room is for
[06:18] <stdin> Biovore: only for wifi driver, and only because they just use firmware not "drivers" as such
[06:18] <Biovore> rgr
[06:18] <newbi> raquel: i dont want no windows version of msn i want kopete
[06:18] <Biovore> newbi: what webcam?
[06:18] <xgod069> can someone pm me that know's somewhat about the kubuntu system based off of Window's programs
[06:18] <Jucato> xgod069: come again?
[06:18] <raquel> newbi - sorry I don't know much more about web cams
[06:18] <gangbk> ?
[06:19] <stdin> xgod069: ask in the channel so we can all see the question
[06:19] <Biovore> raquel: what kind of web cam?  model number, manufacture?
[06:19] <Jucato> xgod069: didn't quite get your question
[06:19] <dasKreech> xgod069: You have a better chance of an answer here and that answer may help others
[06:19] <xgod069> i'm trying to install wine into kubutnu so i can run WoW but it wont let me install it or uptade it in the konsole
[06:19] <raquel> Biovore = newbi has the cam instal
[06:19] <Biovore> ah..
[06:19] <stdin> xgod069: how are you trying?
[06:19] <dasKreech> xgod069: How are you trying to instal it?
[06:20] <newbi> Biovore: trust wb-5400
[06:20] <Jucato> !wow
[06:20] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:20] <raquel> xgod069 apt-get install wine
[06:20] <stdin> sudo ^
[06:20] <xgod069> tryed that =/
[06:20] <xgod069> it just go's blank
[06:20] <dasKreech> xgod069: What do you mean?
[06:21] <xgod069> then when i try to update it it say's cannot connect to server list then blank agian
[06:21] <dasKreech> You get back the command prompt?
[06:21] <raquel> hmm that is how I instaled it - by changce are you one an AMD 64 machine
[06:21] <newbi> lol
[06:21] <xgod069> lol no
[06:21] <dasKreech> xgod069: can You pastebin your sources list
[06:21] <raquel> sorry about my typing - I hte this keyboard
[06:21] <xgod069> i will try leme check real quick
[06:21] <dasKreech> !paste | xgod069
[06:21] <ubotu> xgod069: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:21] <gangbk> http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[06:21] <gangbk> try any of these ?  http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[06:21] <dasKreech> The file is /etc/apt.sources.list
[06:22] <dasKreech> gangbk: apt-get update not working is a larger issue :)
[06:22] <gangbk> ahhh
[06:22] <Jucato> dasKreech: misplaced a punctuation there :)
[06:22] <gangbk> gedit /etc/apt.sources.list
[06:22] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38207/  < that was from earlier - can someone look at it
[06:23] <gangbk> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <Jucato> gangbk: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <stdin> gangbk: gedit is for gnome and NEVER use sudo with GUI apps
[06:24] <xgod069> >.< i'm so confused lol
[06:25] <dasKreech> xgod069: find the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <stdin> press Alt+F2 and put in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <dasKreech> ^^^ that works
[06:26] <stdin> then copy all of the text and paste in to the pastebin site
[06:26] <stdin> then post the address back
[06:27] <raquel> no one has looked at my pastebin - but they wonder why I flooded the chat??
[06:28] <xgod069> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38209/
[06:28] <xgod069> O.o
[06:29] <raquel> You don't have may selected..
[06:29] <raquel> many
[06:29] <newbi> konq est vraiment moch pour certain site :(
[06:30] <Jucato> newbi: #kubuntu-fr
[06:30] <stdin> xgod069: replace what you have with this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38210/
[06:31] <newbi> Jucato: no need
[06:31] <dasKreech> raquel: been playing with xauth have we?
[06:31] <stdin> newbi: then only speak english in this channel
[06:31] <raquel> I am trying to run a lot of Windows aps on Kubuntu :D
[06:31] <newbi> Jucato: i'll be still here waitting to see if anyone can help me install my webcam
[06:31] <xgod069> >.< it wont let me write to the file
[06:32] <stdin> xgod069: you opened it with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[06:32] <raquel> but I need some things for for WINE to work  and my adept has failed
[06:32] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:33] <xgod069> i ran the command that i was told to
[06:33] <stdin> xgod069: no matter, close it without saving and open again with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then overwrite with the one I gave you
[06:33] <dasKreech> raquel: What did you do with xauth?
[06:34] <xgod069> ok replaced the txt
[06:34] <raquel> I allowed control of this desktop from my dad's desktop (also running Kubuntu
[06:34] <SilentDis> is there a tool in KDE to choose the 'default' network connection to use?  I have a slow 'net access via eth0, and EVDO high-speed available, managed by kppp.  everything still 'favors' the slow connection on eth0.  Short of disabling eth0 (which does work, but I can't get to other network resources then), is there any way to do this?
[06:35] <stdin> xgod069: ok, now in konsole put "sudo apt-get update"
[06:35] <juliano> oi
[06:35] <xgod069> :O it ask for pass
[06:36] <stdin> xgod069: yep, put yours in
[06:36] <dasKreech> raquel: well something you did made it more difficult for apps on the local machine to get permission
[06:36] <xgod069> is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:37] <raquel> I'm geting a lot of Warning: No X authentication info set for display :0.0
[06:37] <stdin> xgod069: ok, you need to remove that file, it's just getting in the way and causing errors, so do "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list" then "sudo apt-get update" again
[06:37] <raquel> cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:37] <dasKreech> raquel: yes You set instructions for your remote computers to connect
[06:38] <dasKreech> You need to set ones for the local as well
[06:38] <xgod069> :O! bah more problems
[06:38] <xgod069> no such directery
[06:39] <raquel> this issue with adept started before I set that to allow my father to see what I am doing on this computer
[06:39] <stdin> xgod069: what was the exact command you put in?
[06:39] <xgod069> sudo rm /ect/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[06:40] <stdin> xgod069: it's "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list"  't' and 'c' the other way round :p
[06:40] <newbi> will easycam install the right driver for my trust cam?
[06:40] <xgod069> >.< :P
[06:40] <dasKreech> raquel: I'm assuming adept doesn't start
[06:41] <dasKreech> !tab | xgod069
[06:41] <ubotu> xgod069: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:41] <raquel> dasKreech - no it wn't strart and apt-get is giv\ing a string of errors
[06:41] <dasKreech> xgod069: tab is very useful
[06:41] <dasKreech> raquel: What string of errors. pastebin please
[06:43] <xgod069> ok it updated correctly now what
[06:43] <SilentDis> problem: 2 net connections, one on eth0, the other managed by KPPP.  How can I tell all apps to use the KPPP connection, rather than the eth0 connection?
[06:43] <stdin> xgod069: now you can do "sudo apt-get install wine" to install wine :)
[06:43] <stdin> xgod069: or you can use Adept, which ever you want
[06:44] <xgod069> niceness it's installing
[06:44] <dasKreech> newbi: did you read the webcam page?
[06:44] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38214/
[06:45] <raquel> BRB
[06:45] <Biovore> sudo apt-get update
[06:45] <Biovore> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:45] <newbi> dasKreech: yes im readding alot of pages right now.i just install easycam drivers to see if it works
[06:45] <xgod069> stdin: ok now that it's installed how do i go about running it?
[06:46] <dasKreech> newbi: ok
[06:46] <stdin> xgod069: see this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#head-3acca7686806077923c05fa38c442e856ffacc54
[06:46] <SilentDis> Biovore: do it all in 1 line.  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude autoclean
[06:46] <raquel> back
[06:46] <dasKreech> raquel: Wrong command
[06:46] <dasKreech> raquel: sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <newbi> stdin: what is Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:624e Microdia?i only got 2 things in my usb port,my benq mouse and my trust webcam.i dot know nothing about :Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:624e Microdia
[06:47] <xgod069> stdin: lol the fun part :P
[06:47] <xgod069> installing WoW
[06:47] <xgod069> XD
[06:48] <stdin> newbi: I don't know, does the name "Microdia" mean anything to you? have you googled it?
[06:48] <newbi> stdin: easycam say to choose my webcam but i dont see it when i do lsusb
[06:49] <stdin> xgod069: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft also, more specific instructions for WoW there
[06:49] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38216/
[06:49] <raquel> sudo apt-0get update output
[06:50] <raquel> (I really hate this keybaord
[06:51] <stdin> raquel: you haven't imported the wine gpg key "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - "
[06:51] <dasKreech> raquel: that's good. you may want to get the key for that last repo
[06:51] <stdin> xp_killer: stop that
[06:51] <dasKreech> stdin: You did not just do that out of  your head
[06:52] <stdin> dasKreech: no, it's on the wine page which I had open for xgod069 :)
[06:52] <xp_killer> stdin: stop what?chaging names?
[06:52] <stdin> xp_killer: no, broadcasting potentially illegal activities
[06:52] <dasKreech> xp_killer: Talking about warez
[06:52] <dasKreech> that's a quickly bannable offence
[06:52] <xp_killer> warez?
[06:52] <dasKreech> Downloading movies
[06:52] <xp_killer> what is warez?
[06:52] <stdin> !pirate
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pirate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <stdin> arr
[06:53] <stdin> :p
[06:53] <dasKreech> stdin: No man you gotta spell it with l337 talk
[06:53] <Jucato> xp_killer: warez is a term mostly used for illegally acquired software
[06:53] <stdin> !piracy | xp_killer
[06:53] <ubotu> xp_killer: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[06:53] <Jucato> o4o? hm... that's new
[06:53] <xp_killer> stdin: it not elegal it came out on dvd
[06:54] <Jucato> xp_killer: so why are you downloading it?
[06:54] <raquel> is there a way to tell it to install the updates (yes fixed the key issue already
[06:54] <dasKreech> xp_killer: regardless do NOT talk about downloading movies music or software here
[06:54] <dasKreech> raquel: apt-cache policy package I think
[06:54] <stdin> raquel: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will do a "Full Upgrade"
[06:55] <xp_killer> because the website said we could.the same site who sells the dvd but u got to pay.im paying by month. Jucato
[06:55] <dasKreech> Jucato: He wanted to know if there was an upgrade for a package
[06:56] <Jucato> dasKreech: um.. nope he/she didn't :)
[06:56] <raquel> this still doesn't fix my adept issue..
[06:56] <dasKreech> raquel: sorry. are you male or female?
[06:56] <Jucato> xp_killer: ok then. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. but next time do not talk about those as it will immediately be considered piracy
[06:56] <stdin> xp_killer: regardless, it's potentially and illegal activity to download movies and even if it's not in your particular circumstance then it's still offtopic
[06:56] <Jucato> considered/presumed
[06:56] <raquel> female
[06:56] <dasKreech> raquel: ok thanks
[06:57] <n8k99> arrgh, and everybody knows that International Talk like a Pirate Day was so 2 days ago
[06:57] <dasKreech> Jucato: Well she asked if a package was updated
[06:57] <xp_killer> lol
[06:57] <dasKreech> or so I though
[06:57] <dasKreech> thought
[06:57] <dasKreech> n8k99: Aye ma8ey..99
[06:57] <xgod069> yea lol this is gonna take a while
[06:58] <dasKreech> xgod069: Yeah wow is big. So is Wine
[06:58] <xgod069> yea i knoticed
[06:58] <dasKreech> raquel: agreed. but at least now you can normally install things while you sort that out
[06:58] <raquel> erm this update is taking a while - 1/2 of them are security updates
[06:58] <raquel> daskreech =- so true
[06:59] <dasKreech> Jucato: I take it you don
[06:59] <stdin> raquel: then that's a good thing you're installing them
[06:59] <Jucato> dasKreech: don what?
[06:59] <dasKreech> t wanna throw yourself at a xauth error ?
[06:59] <Jucato> nope. haven't tried figuring that out
[07:00] <xp_killer> trust webcam s***
[07:00] <xp_killer> *
[07:00] <raquel> my dad's computer would have been finished already....
[07:00] <raquel> it's 6 x faster than this old P3
[07:01] <dasKreech> raquel: Well if you did it on his you can just pull them across the network
[07:01] <xgod069> lol if i was smart this copy of wow would have been done way faster in the 52x speed drive i have instead of this 16x dvd speed drive
[07:02] <raquel> erm not yet we can't we can't seem to make these two properly communicate on the network yet
[07:02] <dasKreech> Or as mounted ISOs
[07:02] <raquel> (mostly because of the missing things on this computer
[07:03] <raquel> hey it just replaced my grub :/
[07:03] <dasKreech> Ha ha :)
[07:04] <dasKreech> what's missing that you can't connect to a network ... and you can download?
[07:04] <raquel> dasKreech - I'm not sure what's missing  - and EVERYTHINHG is downloadable
[07:05] <dasKreech> raquel: sooo you can connect to the internet but not each other?
[07:07] <raquel> well we can connect using ther
[07:07] <raquel> try that again...
[07:07] <xgod069> interesting
[07:07] <raquel> we can connect using krdc/krfb thing
[07:07] <raquel> but  otherwise no connection
[07:07] <xgod069> the new version's of wine automaticly install the program's into a fake folder
[07:08] <dasKreech> raquel: not even ssh ?
[07:08] <raquel> ssh - thing that is one of the missing things on this computer
[07:09] <dasKreech> ah you need the server?
[07:09] <xgod069> afk for like idk um an hour while this installs :)
[07:10] <raquel> erm yeah - I have some idea that I need to set up some type of server on both sides and the we should be able to connect
[07:10] <dasKreech> xp_killer: no need for insults let them know you are a Linux user and would appreciate the support
[07:10] <raquel> but am mystified beyond that
[07:10] <dasKreech> raquel: sudo apt-get install ssh on both
[07:11] <dasKreech> then you can open konqueror and type fish://ip.add.re.ss
[07:11] <raquel> ssh is installed on his (he's setting up a whole Apache server on his
[07:11] <dasKreech> xp_killer: on a schedule ?
[07:12] <dasKreech> apache and ssh are not related :)
[07:13] <raquel> erm it ask for CD - have to go find it
[07:13] <xp_killer> no lol.kubuntu....i'm a little oard with it now so i want to try other linux.i try ubuntu it's lame dont like it,it remind me of windows 95
[07:13] <dasKreech> raquel: eek. You probbaly should take that out of your sources.list
[07:14] <frb> how can I find the boot line used for the livecd failsafe graphics mode?
[07:14] <xgod069> we'll i know i'm done with window's forever =)
[07:14] <frb> that seems to work, the installed system doesn't
[07:16] <dasKreech> Jucato: You popped up on Planetkde again
[07:16] <dasKreech> frb: press F6
[07:17] <raquel> it's funny how whne you need a particular disk version you find 3 of the wrong version first
[07:17] <Jucato> huH? wha?
[07:17] <Jucato> dasKreech: troy's blog?
[07:17] <dasKreech> For example, Jucato's or liquidat's websites often have good KDE content on it
[07:17] <dasKreech> raquel: Yep. When it's done I'll help you get rid of that
[07:17] <Jucato> yeah.that post "inspired" me to write that longish "Why KDE" post
[07:17] <frb-home> dasKreech: I can't get it from the running livecd so I can put it in my grub conf on the installed system?
[07:18] <dasKreech> frb-home: yes you can interrupt grub and insert it
[07:18] <dasKreech> if it boots ok then you can make it more permanent
[07:19] <frb-home> I thought there was a way to retrieve it in /proc
[07:19] <frb-home> there it is, dmedg
[07:19] <frb-home> Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed boot=casper xforcevesa initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
[07:20] <raquel> why would my computer not recognize the Kubuntu CD
[07:20] <dasKreech> xforcevesa is what you want
[07:21] <frb-home> I think I may be missing modules in the initrd as well
[07:21] <frb-home> since it didn't even get to the part about failing vesa, it never even got to init
[07:22] <jawee_> I am getting this error when compiling software. I'm not sure what to set.
[07:22] <jawee_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> is what you're compiling in the repositories?
[07:22] <xp_killer> for no reson everything just crash while i was watching a video.konq and firefow dont want to launch anymore
[07:22] <xp_killer> correction nothing workin
[07:23] <dasKreech> jawee_: you need xdevlibs
[07:23] <jawee_> Daisuke_Laptop: yes, but the version in the repos is not quite working
[07:23] <jawee_> dasKreech: thank you
[07:23] <raquel> Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)'
[07:23] <raquel> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[07:24] <raquel> how do I abort and make it look online for htis
[07:24] <dasKreech> raquel: you really should just take the apt-cdrom line out
[07:24] <dasKreech> raquel: ^c
[07:24] <LogicalDash> I want Kate to not open the Documents pane upon opening a file. Is there a way to do this?
[07:24] <raquel> so '^c' - where?
[07:24] <dasKreech> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <dasKreech> raquel: sorry ^ means Ctrl
[07:25] <dasKreech> LogicalDash: F12 I think
[07:25] <dasKreech> Might be F11
[07:25] <jawee_> dasKreech: Can I not get xdevlibs with the*buntu repos?
[07:26] <dasKreech> jawee_: that's not the right name sorry
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> xorg-dev
[07:26] <jawee_> thanks
[07:26] <dasKreech> xserver-xorg-dev
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's the X libs
[07:26] <dasKreech> or xorg-dev
[07:27] <raquel> ok that stopped that install
[07:27] <dasKreech> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <raquel> hmm so how do i get ssh - without it asking for the stupid CD again
[07:28] <dasKreech> raquel: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:28] <LogicalDash> dasKreech, what I'm looking for is a setting such that I can open Kate and not see the Documents pane, keyboard shortcuts don't help much.
[07:29] <raquel> ok that open
[07:29] <frb-home> ok, I found that my HD is /dev/sg0, how do I mount partitions from it?
[07:29] <raquel> erm maybe not Kate cannot connect to X server:0.0
[07:30] <Jucato> LogicalDash: simple. Open Kate, hide the Documents pane. Session -> Save
[07:30] <jawee_> LogicalDash: Why not use KWrite?
[07:30] <Jucato> (because kwrite isn't set as the default text editor in Kubuntu)
[07:30] <frb-home> oh balderdash this is annoying
[07:31] <Jucato> (and is actually hidden from the menu)
[07:31] <dasKreech> raquel: of course not
[07:31] <frb-home> aren't kate and kwrite the same engine anyway?
[07:31] <dasKreech> ^c
[07:31] <Jucato> frb-home: "use" the same engine, but are 2 different shells
[07:31] <dasKreech> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:31] <jawee_> Jucato: oh, didn't realize. I don't use the menu too much. I motsly use katapult anyway.
[07:31] <jawee_> that or alt+f2
[07:31] <frb-home> my hardware is too new, linux isn't happy
[07:32] <Jucato> jawee_: well, you can't run kwrite from katapult too unless it's added to the menu
[07:32] <Jucato> LogicalDash: kwrite is the simple text editor. no multiple documents, no session management
[07:32] <jawee_> Jucato: I seemed to have added it at some point
[07:32] <dasKreech> frb-home: Gutsy maybe? :-)
[07:32] <Jucato> jawee_: I would have thought so :)
[07:32] <LogicalDash> Jucato, I want the external tools and class browser
[07:32] <frb-home> the only burner I have is here in this machine
[07:32] <Jucato> LogicalDash: kwrite doesn't have those
[07:33] <frb-home> this being the machine that doesn't work
[07:33] <Jucato> hm.. class browser?
[07:33] <LogicalDash> Jucato, the Python class browser, it's one of the default plugins
[07:33] <dasKreech> frb-home: Cute. What happens when you put in the xforcevesa ?
[07:33] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38219/  << that is not good
[07:33] <jawee_> Jucato: No, kedit is the true simple text editor of KDE
[07:33] <Jucato> jawee_: er. not since the creation of katepart (that engine you were talking about)
[07:33] <Jucato> because kedit doesn't use that
[07:34] <Jucato> so you could say kedit is the old, deprecated (and now unmaintained) simple text editor of KDE
[07:34] <jawee_> eh, I still use it for config files
[07:34] <jawee_> Kate for serious stuff
[07:34] <Jucato> maybe you do. but not the rest of KDE :)
[07:35] <frb-home> dasKreech: I haven't rebooted yet, I'm trying to figure out how to get to my root device now
[07:35] <LogicalDash> Jucato, how do I change the default session in Kate?
[07:35] <Jucato> kwrite is actually the default KDE text editor. Kubuntu just set it to use kate
[07:35] <Jucato> LogicalDash: what do you mean?
[07:35] <dasKreech> raquel: that's brilliant! how did you do that?
[07:35] <LogicalDash> Jucato, I mean when I close the Documents pane and save session it doesn't overwrite the default session, so I want to set the new session as default
[07:35] <LogicalDash> Jucato, so that the new session will be used at startup
[07:36] <dasKreech> Jucato: Isn't it the default in KDE4 ?
[07:36] <Jucato> dasKreech: it is even in KDE 3
[07:36] <raquel> dasKreech - that is the output of my bash shell
[07:36] <dasKreech> raquel: I know it's fantabulous
[07:37] <Jucato> LogicalDash: Settings -> Configure Kate -> Sessions I think
[07:37] <dasKreech> raquel:ok do you have a cusuor?
[07:37] <Jucato> Kubuntu set it that Kate starts a new session every time
[07:37] <dasKreech> where you can move and type?
[07:37] <LogicalDash> Jucato, nope
[07:37] <raquel> of course
[07:37] <LogicalDash> Jucato, it lets me manually choose a session every time but that's an even bigger pain
[07:37] <dasKreech> raquel: ok put a # at the start of line 7
[07:38] <Jucato> LogicalDash: how about "LOad last-used session"?
[07:38] <LogicalDash> Jucato, wouldn't that make it open the previous document? I don't want that.
[07:38] <raquel> ok did that
[07:38] <Jucato> LogicalDash: it's set to Do not save session right?
[07:39] <brohken> can someone help me get my nvidia card working properly on my laptop? i am not getting the proper resolution
[07:39] <dasKreech> raquel: See those notes at the bottom of the screen?
[07:39] <LogicalDash> Yes, that actually does what I want in a way that wasn't exactly how I phrased it
[07:39] <LogicalDash> I fail
[07:39] <raquel> hang on small screen have to roll it down
[07:39] <dasKreech> Well ^o saves or writes the file
[07:39] <dasKreech> raquel: the notes don't move
[07:39] <dasKreech> Get help, Exit etc
[07:40] <frb> ok, it's not xforcevesa
[07:40] <LogicalDash> Jucato, but it's still opening the Documents pane and I'm confused
[07:40] <raquel> ok erm amybe I'm not sure shich nots
[07:40] <frb> it's currently hanging on loading the "scsi" devices
[07:40] <dasKreech> raquel: ^G Get Help
[07:40] <raquel> agh not sue which notes
[07:40] <dasKreech> raquel: ^O WriteOut
[07:40] <LogicalDash> When I open the new No Documents Pane session, the titlebar still says Default Session, maybe that's the problem?
[07:41] <LogicalDash> Or an indication thereof
[07:41] <dasKreech> raquel: In any case press ^O
[07:41] <raquel> oh those nots - yes see those
[07:41] <dasKreech> raquel: Those are the notes for the commands  in nano
[07:41] <dasKreech> remember ^ ;-)
[07:41] <Jucato> LogicalDash: try this. open the Default Session. hide the doc pane, save the Default session. then set it to manually ask for session. restart kate, then from the dialog box, select Always use this choice
[07:42] <brohken> can someone help me get my nvidia card working properly on my laptop? i am not getting the proper resolution
[07:42] <dasKreech> !nvidia | brohken
[07:42] <ubotu> brohken: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:42] <LogicalDash> hmm, alternately... since I did just produce a functional No Documents Pane session, and they're stored in text files, I could modify my Default Session to match my No Documents Pane session
[07:42] <raquel> [ Wrote 47 lines ] 
[07:42] <Jucato> LogicalDash: I just tried what I told you to try. it works for me.
[07:43] <Jucato> LogicalDash: you could also use that No Document Pane session as the Always use this session
[07:43] <dasKreech> raquel: ^X
[07:43] <dasKreech> try install ssh again
[07:43] <frb> oh, now it works
[07:43] <dasKreech> Must... not.... !worksforme .... jucato......
[07:43] <frb> how ODD
[07:43] <LogicalDash> Jucato, thanks!
[07:43] <dasKreech> frb: What was it?
[07:43] <Jucato> LogicalDash: works now?
[07:44] <frb> I changed my SATA controller to AHCI instead of IDE
[07:44] <LogicalDash> Jucato, It worked, now I can type with 33% more space
[07:44] <frb> when it was "Linux AHCI" it failed, when it was set to "IDE" it failed
[07:44] <Jucato> nice. :)
[07:44] <brohken> dasKreech: im sort of not able to detect my video card
[07:45] <brohken> im using virtualbox to run xubuntu on a vista laptop
[07:45] <Jucato> LogicalDash: Kate's sessions can be *very* useful when coding :)
[07:45] <raquel> how do I test to see if that works or not
[07:45] <Jucato> they're like Projects in KDevelop
[07:45] <dasKreech> raquel: install ssh
[07:46] <LogicalDash> graaaah, it doesn't work if I click to open a file in Konqueror
[07:48] <brohken> can anyone help me install nvidia drivers on my xubuntu instance? its running in a virtual box
[07:49] <LogicalDash> yaaay, it worked
[07:50] <dasKreech> brohken: which nvidia?
[07:50] <LogicalDash> now I can REALLY reclaim that window
[07:50] <brohken> dasKreech: i have a quadro 140m
[07:50] <frb> can I Not use NetworkManager?
[07:50] <frb> I really hate it
[07:51] <dasKreech> frb: join the line
[07:51] <LogicalDash> frb, the last version of Kubuntu had an app called WirelessAssistant that worked okay, it's probably still in the repositories
[07:51] <brohken> lspci | grep -i nvidia doesnt show me anything
[07:52] <frb> I would, if it worked
[07:52] <dasKreech> brohken: try lshw -C Video
[07:52] <frb> I disabled my wired connection, but it won't let me enable wireless
[07:52] <frb> I run dhclient ra1, and everything is swimming perfectly
[07:52] <frb> I just want to kill it
[07:52] <LogicalDash> frb, I don't think you're supposed to enable/disable wireless through NetworkManager, try kconfig
[07:53] <brohken> bash: try: command not found
[07:53] <frb> kconfig?
[07:53] <brohken> dasKreech: ^
[07:54] <frb> first thing I have to do over there is get myself some hot NVidia action and do 1680x1050
[07:54] <dasKreech> brohken: ha ha without the try
[07:54] <LogicalDash> frb, K menu -> System Configuration if you prefer
[07:54] <LogicalDash> er, System Settings
[07:54] <dasKreech> raquel: How you doing?
[07:54] <frb> LogicalDash: oh, the kapplet does that for me, and that's where I was doing it
[07:54] <brohken> dasKreech: sorry, lol
[07:55] <raquel> erm there was another CD  on that - fixed that =- but now I have a whole different issue
[07:55] <dasKreech> raquel: right
[07:56] <brohken> http://pastebin.ca/706730
[07:56] <LogicalDash> frb, then... what trouble are you having with NetworkManager, exactly
[07:56] <LogicalDash> ?
[07:56] <raquel> E: Could not get  lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open(11 Resource temoraritly unavbailable
[07:56] <LogicalDash> frb, I probably can't help though
[07:56] <raquel> then it ask about another resource using it
[07:56] <LogicalDash> raquel, are you running other package management software?
[07:57] <frb> knetworkmanager applet thing says the network is broken
[07:58] <frb> I can't use it to choose wireless, or switch networks
[07:58] <dasKreech> !adeptfix | raquel
[07:58] <ubotu> raquel: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:58] <frb> I belive that since knetworkmanager says it's broken, konqueror doesn't work
[07:58] <frb> as I installed firefox and it does work
[07:58] <frb> as do konversation, ssh, apt, w3m ...
[07:59] <LogicalDash> frb, way outta my depth, sorry
[07:59] <frb> I get that alot
[07:59] <brohken> http://pastebin.ca/706730 dasKreech
[07:59] <alaskan> Greets, everyone...
[08:00] <dasKreech> frb: Just kill it if it's not working and dhclient on the command line
[08:00] <alaskan> Sorry this is a bit off-topic, but does anyone know of a way to close all running Screenlets from the command line?
[08:00] <LogicalDash> goodnight everybody
[08:00] <dasKreech> alaskan: reboot? :)
[08:00] <dasKreech> LogicalDash: Nigh
[08:00] <frb> BINGO
[08:00] <alaskan> dasKreech: nice
[08:00] <dasKreech> alaskan: What are screenlets again?
[08:00] <frb> I quit knetworkmanager, and now konqueror works
[08:00] <alaskan> dasKreech: composited widgets
[08:00] <frb> who was debugging this earlier?
[08:00] <dasKreech> frb: Yeah it's really dumb
[08:00] <alaskan> i.e., for use with Compiz
[08:01] <dasKreech> frb: When it wants to be. It's young so like Kopete i'll give it time
[08:01] <dasKreech> alaskan: Ah. try in #ubuntu-effects
[08:01] <alaskan> dasKreech: Already did. It's dead in there, but thanks.
[08:01] <frb> dasKreech: networkmanager sucked when I didn't use it back in 03, I don't want to use it now
[08:01] <dasKreech> brohken: You are right. It is indeed not being detected :)
[08:02] <raquel> 'hang on new interesting thingy
[08:02] <dasKreech> frb: By all means go ahead
[08:02] <dasKreech> raquel: Tune in next week...
[08:02] <brohken> dasKreech: any idea how i can set that up?
[08:02] <raquel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38220/
[08:02] <dasKreech> brohken: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's what Virtual box is reporting
[08:02] <alvaro23_infoxp> hola
[08:02] <raquel> kill or not to kill prossess
[08:03] <alvaro23_infoxp> hello
[08:03] <dasKreech> kill
[08:03] <frb> was it Biovore that said he was trying to debug this problem?
[08:03] <dasKreech> He does seem a likely candidate
[08:04] <frb> now I need an nvidia howto, or I'll just do it manually
[08:04] <dasKreech> !nvidia
[08:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:04] <dasKreech> LogicalDash: hello
[08:04] <frb> I just found that on google :)
[08:06] <raquel> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process <<<which prossess and how do I find and kill it?
[08:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have a question instead of a snarky comment for a change
[08:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> my laptop is called "dell"
[08:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would prefer it be called something less...  bleh
[08:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i didn't get the option to determine what its name would be upon first launch (though it did ask about username and such)
[08:07] <dasKreech> raquel: do you have another window with apt-get running ?
[08:08] <dasKreech> !hostname
[08:08] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:08] <raquel> found and fixed =- installing ssh now from apt-get
[08:09] <dasKreech> raquel: \o/
[08:09] <raquel> Setting up ssh (4.3p2-8ubuntu1) ...
[08:10] <raquel> (last of over 100 lines of crap to get such a small file...
[08:11] <raquel> ok so how do I get this whole network thing working
[08:11] <dasKreech> Yeah it does a lot
[08:11] <dasKreech> raquel: yuo have it installed on both computers?
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> heehee
[08:11] <raquel> let me make sure int's onnnnnn my dads
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> thankya dasKreech :P
[08:11] <raquel> BRB
[08:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, in rechristening my laptop, i remembered i haven't caught any strongbad emails recently...
[08:13] <dasKreech> Daisuke_Laptop: call it .com
[08:13] <frb> cnet owns that
[08:18] <hgarcia> hey pplz
[08:18] <raquel> now that computers having some issue - this will take a few minutes
[08:20] <dasKreech> raquel: Well you can test it out
[08:20] <dasKreech> raquel: that computer has KDE as well?
[08:20] <raquel> Yes - but for the AMD64
[08:21] <raquel> It's a newer computer..
[08:21] <raquel> BRB again
[08:23] <hgarcia> anyone know any good cd ripping software for linux?
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh yes
[08:24] <dasKreech> k3b
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> no
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> not k3b
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> cdparanoia
[08:24] <raquel> BACK - ok we have ssh on both computers
[08:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> or alternatively, one of its frontends
[08:24] <dasKreech> raquel: well open konqueror and put in fish://ip.add.re.ss
[08:24] <dasKreech> for the remote computer
[08:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> ksoundcreator
[08:25] <hgarcia> cdparanoia?
[08:25] <raquel> (that one no has a certificate for the ssh Apache2 server
[08:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> hgarcia: secure cd ripping
[08:25] <dasKreech> if you want to login as someone you can do fish://user@ip.add.re.ss
[08:25] <hgarcia> what do you mean by secure?
[08:25] <frb> ugh, restricted-manager just crashed
[08:26] <raquel> Could not connect to host ip.add.re.ss.
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> i mean it doesn't just do a burst copy and say it's good
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> raquel: ...
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> put in the ip of the other pc :)
[08:26] <raquel> do do I need to turn ssh on?
[08:26] <raquel> erm whre 'fish:// here /
[08:27] <dasKreech> raquel: ssh is on already
[08:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> hgarcia: cdparanoia checks what it copies instead of just throwing bits at the hard drive and keeping whatever sticks :)
[08:27] <dasKreech> raquel: Wha'ts that next question ?
[08:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> raquel: if the addy of the other is 192.168.1.4, put that in
[08:27] <Jucato> !ripping | hgarcia
[08:27] <ubotu> hgarcia: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[08:28] <Jucato> Daisuke_Laptop: I think K3b use cdparanoia to rip?
[08:28] <raquel> hmm Could not connect to host 192.168.0.101
[08:29] <raquel> let me verify that ones IP...
[08:29] <hgarcia> cdparanoia is already installed on my pc
[08:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jucato: does it?
[08:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> that would be a plus
[08:29] <Jucato> Daisuke_Laptop: I guess it does. it depends on cdparanoia to be installed
[08:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> i always just go with a dedicated cd ripper after learning my lesson in windows...  guess i should look into that.
[08:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> open mouth, insert foot, eh?
[08:30] <Jucato> well, it would make sense if those dedicated ripper didn't use the same backend eh? :)
[08:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes
[08:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i came from a windows background, and i'm still adjusting a little
[08:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm almost all the way there :)
[08:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> (i should be, it's been a year)
[08:31] <Jucato> what's taking you so long?! :)
[08:32] <raquel> hate having to run from room to room for this...
[08:32] <dasKreech> raquel:  Yeah did you get the IP right ?
[08:33] <raquel> I've tried every IP on my router and it will not connect to  any of them
[08:33] <dasKreech> raquel: ok quick test
[08:33] <khaije1> how can i measure my isp speed?
[08:33] <dasKreech> type ifconfig on this machine
[08:33] <raquel> fish://192.168.2.2.add.re.ss/
[08:34] <dasKreech> raquel: >_<
[08:34] <raquel> is that how the line should look on conquror
[08:34] <khaije1> i've heard something about dslreports..? any other good options?
[08:34] <dasKreech> raquel: just fish://192.168.2.2
[08:34] <Jucato> khaije1: http://speedtest.net
[08:34] <frb> khaije1: I use what Jucato just mentioned
[08:34] <khaije1> cool, thx guy
[08:34] <khaije1> *guys
[08:34] <dasKreech> internetfrog
[08:35] <Jucato> although it does require flash....
[08:35] <dasKreech> http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNGia7iaD29TdKnYtaQQtiNIqgYp_g
[08:35] <dasKreech> Grr
[08:35] <frb> I'd rather use flash than java
[08:35] <frb> and I can't think of a way to do it without one or the other
[08:36] <dasKreech> raquel: don't go running off tell me if that works or not
[08:36] <frb> well, activex, but that doesn't really count now does it?
[08:36] <raquel> it's wanting a user name and passowrd now :D
[08:36] <dasKreech> raquel: ok which machine is that?
[08:36] <dasKreech> it wants a user name and password for that machine
[08:36] <raquel> and I realize that I only have one user for that machine...
[08:36] <khaije1> Jucato: frb: i can't access it, it's at www.speedtest.net right? can ya'll get to it?
[08:36] <raquel> :
[08:36] <dasKreech> raquel: Well that's the one it wants :)
[08:37] <frb> khaije1: works for me
[08:37] <raquel> but that 'is logged in...
[08:37] <dasKreech> raquel: you can make a second user just for guest loggin in purposes
[08:37] <dasKreech> raquel: doesn't matter. WOn't hurt it
[08:37] <khaije1> frb: are you entering it w/ or w/o the www. ?
[08:37] <Jucato> works both ways for me
[08:38] <raquel> hmm it won't log in
[08:38] <dasKreech> raquel: try fish://username@192.168.2.2
[08:38] <khaije1> hmm, kay, thanks, this is interesting I've never really tested out the 1x connection on my cell before
[08:38] <frb> khaije1: oh, it will be 64k
[08:39] <frb> sprint cdma is 64k/64k
[08:39] <khaije1> frb: i'm on vzw
[08:40] <khaije1> oh well, just having irc again is good enough for now heheh
[08:42] <frodak> hello
[08:42] <raquel> made 2nd user
[08:42] <raquel> it's taking a while to log in tho - erm hang on
[08:43] <frb> !compiz-fusion
[08:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:43] <dasKreech> raquel: you can do a quick test on the command line if you like
[08:44] <xgod069> interesting hey stdin are u still there
[08:44] <raquel> ok that IP was THIS computer - not that on ..
[08:44] <raquel> agh
[08:45] <dasKreech> raquel: ha ha
[08:45] <dasKreech> raquel: can you login as the user for this computer?
[08:45] <raquel> yeah
[08:46] <raquel> that was funny
[08:46] <raquel> :D
[08:46] <xgod069> das got a question on WoW problems with Kubuntu, ive looked through the site info on it but canot find an answer there
[08:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> you won't find it on WoW's site
[08:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> maybe winehq.com
[08:46] <xgod069> not on a wow site :P
[08:46] <dasKreech> raquel: are you ok now?
[08:46] <raquel> so the problem is on that computer - how can I tell if ssh is running or not
[08:47] <dasKreech> raquel: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:51] <raquel> it wn't start - no error message just fail
[08:53] <dasKreech> raquel: Hmm did it have an error message when it installed?
[08:53] <raquel> no but it attached itself to the apache server ..
[08:54] <raquel> and he hasn't made the web page for the server yet ..
[08:54] <dasKreech> really?
[08:54] <xgod069> anyone know how i install or get ahold of mozilla active x control
[08:54] <dasKreech> how do you know that it attached to apache?
[08:54] <raquel> yeah - I can't past that though - it's a really long thing and on ahis computer
[08:55] <raquel> I'' have to log in her from there t oaste that
[08:55] <dasKreech> raquel: so it fails when you try to start it ...
[08:55] <dasKreech> no error message
[08:55] <omar> k
[08:56] <dasKreech> sudo dpkg --reconfigure ssh
[08:56] <dasKreech> Try that and see
[08:56] <omar> mmm...
[08:58] <smorg> Hi!
[08:59] <xgod069> anyone know how i install or get ahold of mozilla active x control for kubuntu
[09:00] <raquel> yeah!!!! I'm logged into that one and that one is logged into this one :D
[09:00] <raquel> it took me into the home folder :D
[09:00] <hangthedj_server> xgod069, i think active x is only on windows, you could try installing mozilla or firefox through wine
[09:01] <xgod069> that might work leme try it
[09:01] <Jucato> xgod069: might want to ask the #winehq guys
[09:02] <dasKreech> raquel: Yep you can actually loginto anywhere you  want but the home folder is default
[09:02] <raquel> THANKS everyone =- especially <dasKreech>
[09:02] <dasKreech> !helpersnack | dasKreech
[09:02] <dasKreech> Hi smorg
[09:02] <Jucato> !helpersnack | dasKreech
[09:02] <ubotu> dasKreech: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[09:02] <dasKreech> welcome to Kubuntu
[09:03] <smorg> yay
[09:03] <raquel> !helpersnack|dasKreech
[09:03] <Jucato> dasKreech: ubotu doesn't like giving cookies to beggars :P
[09:03] <hangthedj_server> xgod069, i would agree with Jucato, ask the winehq people first.
[09:03] <dasKreech> Jucato: not in public at least
[09:03] <Jucato> dasKreech: aw.. what's the use of helpersnack if *they* can't see it? :P
[09:04] <xgod069> beggers
[09:04] <xgod069> who's begging i was simply asking
[09:04] <Jucato> xgod069: huh?
[09:04] <raquel> ok so now I'm tire and will work on sharing viop over this ne\twork tommorow :D
[09:04] <dasKreech> xgod069: I was begging
[09:04] <dasKreech> raquel: You are a busy bee
[09:04] <Jucato> xgod069: no one was referring to you (except about the wine/active x question)
[09:04] <dasKreech> raquel: I guess I'll see more of you then
[09:05] <raquel> there is a lot I want to get done
[09:05] <xgod069> it's for WoW reason's
[09:05] <xgod069> every time i try to run the game it ask for Mozilla active x control
[09:05] <Jucato> xgod069: yeah. the #winehq people know a lot more about Wine
[09:05] <raquel> probaly see my dad - as most of what needs to be done he'll understand better than I do..
[09:05] <raquel> any gnite every one
[09:06] <khaije1> anyone know how to add a2dp to linux?
[09:06] <Jucato> xgod069: that "beggars" wasn't for you anyway
[09:06] <xgod069> >.< i'm so confused,
[09:06] <dasKreech> Night raquel!
[09:07] <dasKreech> xgod069: I was begging for a cookie
[09:07] <dasKreech> or something :)
[09:07] <xgod069> i just wanna play wow and i have no window's based system to run it from =/
[09:07] <dasKreech> no need to worry
[09:07] <dasKreech> Jucato: thanks
[09:08] <Jucato> xgod069: um.. that's why we're saying that you can most probably get more help from the people in #winehq because I believe WoW only runs on Linux through Wine
[09:08] <frb> well, on the bright side... my unknown video card now gives me 1680x1050@32bpp
[09:08] <frb> my unknown sound card seems to be doing fine
[09:08] <frb> my unknown sata controller is working out alright as well
[09:09] <xgod069> ok how do i go about connecting to winehq because it's been about 3 years seince i used irc on RS
[09:09] <Jucato> xgod069: just click on the channel name in the sentences
[09:09] <Jucato> or type /j #winehq
[09:09] <hangthedj_server> xgod069, you could try cedaga also.
[09:10] <hangthedj_server> but you have to pay for that.
[09:11] <xgod069> =/ gah i'm just so tired, and wanna get on wow agian. stupid computer's crashing >.<
[09:11] <xgod069> hopefully someone will finnally answer me on #winehq
[09:18] <scheuri> hi all (or good morning to those in CET and GMT)
[09:18] <erik-k> Hi
[09:21] <holycow> test
[09:24] <erik-k> I just had a few problems installing kubuntu on my parent's computer... anyone actually at their terminal ;)
[09:24] <Lynoure> erik-k: just ask :)
[09:25] <erik-k> first thing was, it seems to automatically drop the bootloader on /dev/hda
[09:25] <erik-k> so when we installed/tried to boot from hdc, it went rather poorly...
[10:18] (level1/#kubuntu) okay, I got a beep
[10:18] <level1> I think it was the same beep as before when I removed the graphics card
[10:18] <level1> it was pretty shrill though
[10:19] <Maxdamantus> Lol. I was playing music on it through a stereo amplifier.
[10:19] <erik-k> level1: shot into the dark... is it an ecs elitegroup mobo?
[10:19] <smorg> wow this is very puzzling
[10:19] <level1> erik-k: asus p5b plus
[10:19] <smorg> why can't konquorer resolve anything??
[10:20] <erik-k> poo
[10:20] <level1> smorg: its a funny browser
[10:20] <level1> smorg: I really wish it could use gecko
[10:20] <smorg> i'm obviously connected since i'm talking to you
[10:20] <LordBacon> I crashed adept
[10:20] <Maxdamantus> smorg, try "host google.com", in a shell.
[10:20] <smorg> dns obviously works since i connected to freenode using irc.freenode
[10:20] <smorg> ><
[10:21] <Maxdamantus> It might've been cached.
[10:21] <level1> erik-k: its not working
[10:21] <level1> erik-k: this is freaking me out right now
[10:21] <erik-k> smorg: maybe konq got set to use a proxy?
[10:21] <uga> hasan: lsof |grep lock
[10:21] <smorg> 205.188.146.145
[10:22] <smorg> nope normal connection
[10:22] <uga> hasan: that should show what process is supposedly having the lock file open
[10:22] <LordBacon> where is the adept lockfile?
[10:22] <Maxdamantus> /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:22] <smorg> yep google is 64.233.169.99
[10:22] <erik-k> level1: so it's not beeping at all now?
[10:22] <level1> erik-k: nope
[10:22] <LordBacon> I deleted that, but I still get told that another process is locking the package db
[10:22] <ksivaji> is there anyone who installed openchrome
[10:23] <kaminix|benkyou> Hello. I have an album ripped as one big .flac-file and one .cue file. How can I split the flac up as multiple flacs with one for each song?
[10:23] <level1> erik-k: it turns on and sounds like its doing a normal boot, but the monitor doesn't come out of sleep?
[10:23] <smorg> and konquorer won't connect with just an ip entered either
[10:23] <smorg> messed up
[10:23] <smorg> time to download firefox
[10:23] <LordBacon> smorg: do you have knetworkmanager running?
[10:23] <smorg> yes
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> Firefox ftw.
[10:23] <smorg> idk what it does yet
[10:23] <LordBacon> smorg: big broken network icon in your taskbar?
[10:23] <erik-k> level1: if it got shipped with the hard drives loose, they could have hit the board hard enough to break traces on it...
[10:23] <uga> smorg: how about wget
[10:23] <smorg> yep
[10:23] <LordBacon> smorg: right click, quit
[10:24] <LordBacon> smorg: then konq will start working
[10:24] <Maxdamantus> I find FF2 a bit glitchy on Linux.. But Gran Paradiso is awesome.
[10:24] <level1> erik-k: well, the board itself was out of the pci slot
[10:24] <uga> oh heh
[10:24] <smorg> @lord: I love you
[10:24] <level1> erik-k: it was like at the bottom of the case
[10:24] <LordBacon> smorg: I discovered that one today
[10:24] <smorg> :-)
[10:24] <uga> smorg: you should arrange an out of irc meeting. irc love sucks
[10:25] <erik-k> level1: wait, I'm not entirely clear what happened... how was it prepared for shipping?
[10:25] <level1> erik-k: well, I put it in the box that the case came it
[10:26] <level1> erik-k: with the styrofoam cradle
[10:26] <erik-k> level1: but if you didn't take the internal components apart, then how did the hard drives get out of order?
[10:26] <smorg> great now i can start reading up
[10:27] <Maxdamantus> I read down.
[10:27] <erik-k> level1: I was thinking that they were loose and bouncing around inside the case during shipping
[10:27] <Maxdamantus> Actually, on roads you read up, where it says "GIVE WAY"
[10:27] <smorg> why does everything look nicer than on windows
[10:27] <level1> erik-k: well, the hard drive bay was warped and the drives were all in a weird way
[10:27] <smorg> the whole gui seems to be anti-aliased
[10:27] <smorg> and text
[10:27] <LordBacon> I wish everything was AA
[10:27] <level1> erik-k: so I removed them, and put them back in, but I forgot the order
[10:28] <smorg> linux has some equivilant to cleartype maybe?
[10:28] <level1> erik-k: anyway, if I can't get the boot screen to come up the hard drives are irrelevant
[10:28] <erik-k> smorg: KDE control center -> appearance -> fonts, it has a box for AA
[10:28] <LordBacon> can I copy consolas and calibri from vista to linux?
[10:28] <level1> smorg: if your on a lcd monitor use sub pixel hinting
[10:29] <smorg> crt
[10:29] <smorg> even webpages look like they are rendered more smoothly
[10:29] <smorg> lol yea, on windows cleartype (which is subpixel rendering) looks like butt
[10:31] <level1> erik-k: is there anything I can still do besides cry?
[10:31] <erik-k> Must... not... throw lcd vs crt... grenade...
[10:32] <erik-k> level1: if they banged it hard enough to warp the drive bay, i don't know
[10:32] <smorg> heh, password strength meter
[10:32] <smorg> nice feature
[10:32] <erik-k> Error: Your password is based on the transliterated names of ancient Egyptian pharohs.
[10:33] <Maxdamantus> Ramsey?
[10:33] <smorg> takes letters numbers and special chars to fill it up
[10:33] <Maxdamantus> Oh. Ramases is a transliteration isn't it?
[10:33] <erik-k> Eh, I just figure that's the kind of thing that passwd would come up with
[10:33] <Maxdamantus> Since no one knows how to speak the ancient egyption language.
[10:34] <uga> anyone knows where thunderbird stores the local folders?
[10:34] <uga> after migrating the box and copying the home files over, I still don't see them there
[10:34] <Maxdamantus> uga, look at settings.
[10:34] <smorg> how is konquor compared to ff as a browser?
[10:35] <Maxdamantus> smorg, the only thing I like over Konq is that it uses QT in web pages. :(
[10:35] <Maxdamantus> Like with Konq over Firefox*
[10:35] <smorg> so you like konq better?
[10:36] <Maxdamantus> No, I like FF better.
[10:36] <smorg> hm
[10:36] <Maxdamantus> Well, actually Gran Paradiso.
[10:36] <smorg> needs torbutton and noscript
[10:36] <erik-k> smorg: I admit I'm biased, but konq usually seems to be much lighter on resources.
[10:36] <smorg> for sure
[10:36] <smorg> at minimum
[10:36] <Maxdamantus> Gran Paradiso fixes up most of the GUI interface glitches.
[10:36] <Maxdamantus> And it also seems to use less memory.
[10:36] <smorg> although i guess it has a relativly convienient proxy switch by default
[10:36] <uga> Maxdamantus: uhm,... nothing there
[10:36] <smorg> so torbutton is eh
[10:37] <erik-k> But I have FF too for the last 2% of websites that Konqueror mutilates
[10:37] <smorg> o yea?
[10:37] <dhq> !schedule
[10:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:37] <uga> oh, there you are...  .thunderbird/????????.default/Mail/Local Folders/
[10:38] <smorg> I wish i could be put into a medically induced coma til december
[10:38] <uga> but it seems to refuse loading them
[10:38] <smorg> alright i've gotta read up on mounting ntfs partitions now (if possible)
[10:38] <Maxdamantus> smorg, easy peasy.
[10:39] <Maxdamantus> Oh, thought you said nfs.
[10:39] <smorg> figured it would be a necessary feature
[10:39] <erik-k> I know they can be read, but I think writing is a risky kernel patch
[10:39] <Maxdamantus> erik-k, the Ubuntu kernel can already read ntfs.
[10:39] <smorg> oh really? it doesn't go too smoothly?
[10:39] <Maxdamantus> I used it to copy some music over from my cousin's HD, and it was fine.
[10:39] <smorg> wouldn't want to risk corrupting it
[10:39] <Maxdamantus> I havn't needed to try write though.
[10:40] <dhq> is gusty gonna be released with kde4
[10:40] <Maxdamantus> Which uses ntfs-3g
[10:40] <erik-k> I know reading is fine, I did that just today...
[10:40] <smorg> no they pushed back the release date for kde a few months
[10:40] <smorg> so i would imagine not
[10:40] <smorg> which was already a few weeks after the scheduled release for gusty as i recall
[10:41] <uga> Maxdamantus: ah, found the way... on the new thunderbird version, right click on local folders, properties... and it'll show where it's supposed to work
[10:41] <erik-k> I figure if there's an entire project (linux-ntfs.org) for it, it's not perfect yet
[12:43] <uga> dekc: just ask, don't ask for asking =)
[12:44] <dekc> i can't hear sounds
[12:44] <uga> dekc: run "kmix"
[12:44] <uga> you'll get a speaker icon besides the clock
[12:44] <gary_> can anyone tell me what's the correct driver to install for nvidia fx 5200 ?  glx, legacy, or new?
[12:44] <dekc> i know that
[12:44] <dekc> but nothing
[12:45] <uga> dekc: click on it, press mixer
[12:45] <uga> dekc: is pcm out and everything not silenced?
[12:45] <dekc> speaker is already at full
[12:45] <uga> and the green leds on top?
[12:45] <uga> are they on?
[12:46] <dekc> yes
[12:46] <dekc> i've got also this
[12:46] <dekc> error
[12:46] <dekc> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[12:46] <uga> uh
[12:46] <uga> no soundcard found?
[12:46] <dekc> and i can only hear music with amarok
[12:46] <dekc> but can't change volume
[12:46] <dekc> the soundcard is on mobo
[12:47] <uga> oh, so it just couldn't find the mixer
[12:47] <dekc> but i have a soundcard
[12:47] <uga> dekc:
[12:47] <uga> uga@dpcuga:~$ ls -ld /dev/mixer
[12:48] <uga> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 0 2007-09-21 06:06 /dev/mixer
[12:48] <uga> dekc: can you see something like that?
[12:48] <maverick> hey how do i know if my current kernel isusing my duo core capabilities
[12:48] <maverick> you know CPU1 and CPU2 ??
[12:48] <uga> maverick: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:48] <dekc> dev/mixer no file or directory
[12:48] <maverick> uga: thnx
[12:49] <maverick> join /superkaramba
[12:49] <uga> dekc: the soundcard driver either isn't loaded, or ... if it is, it doesn't support mixer on your soundcard
[12:49] <maverick> sorry
[12:49] <uga> dekc: do you know what's the soundcard model?
[12:49] <uga> maverick: sorry, but I won't join ;)
[12:49] <dekc> it's iontegrted on the motherboard
[12:49] <dekc> it's an asus
[12:49] <uga> dekc: yes, but they all have a model =)
[12:49] <uga> dekc: what asus board?
[12:49] <dekc> m2n-e sli
[12:49] <maverick> uga: hey, that's not air..i really didn't mean that :D
[12:49] <maverick> fair*
[12:50] <dekc> m2n-e sli
[12:50] <gary_> which is correct driver for nvidia fx5200 in feisty? nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, or nvidia-glx-new?
[12:50] <dekc> is there a command like lspci to see the correct model of the motherboard
[12:50] <dekc> ?
[12:50] <uga> dekc: just in case... my asus includes audio drivers
[12:50] <uga> on the CD
[12:51] <uga> did you get some too?
[12:51] <dekc> i bought it yesterday
[12:51] <dekc> and the cd's are at my friends house
[12:51] <dekc> but isnt' it for win?
[12:51] <uga> okay, found it
[12:51] <uga> Audio Chipset / Sound Card   On-board C-Media CM6501
[12:51] <uga> dekc: no, there's linux drivers too on my CD (For the p5k)
[12:52] <uga> at least for the ide thing
[12:52] <uga> and I recall seeing an audio dir
[12:52] <dekc> now i have to install it?
[12:52] <dekc> or what
[12:52] <dekc> ?
[12:54] <uga> dekc: if they have linux drivers, possibly it'd help
[12:54] <uga> I cant' find any info on what driver supports your soundcard, on google
[12:54] <dekc> and sorry for the question but if not what should i do??
[12:55] <uga> dekc: "There is a problem using this sound chip CM6501 with ALSA versions older than 1.0.14. All you have to do is remove the package alsa-base and download and install the latest (experimental) package of ALSA version 1.0.14."
[12:55] <uga> from a suse forum
[12:55] <uga> that refers to an rpm forum ;)
[12:56] <dekc> can i install rpms?
[12:56] <uga> dekc: no
[12:56] <dekc> doh
[12:56] <uga> kubuntu uses alsa 1.0.13
[12:56] <dekc> :(
[12:56] <dekc> can i compile from a tar.gz
[12:56] <uga> you might install alsa from sources, or update to gutsy
[12:56] <uga> yes
[12:56] <dekc> i see on alsa there are many files
[12:57] <dekc> i know to compile but only
[12:57] <dekc> if it's tar.gz or bz2
[12:57] <dekc> or can i use alien to convert rpm to deb
[12:57] <dekc> ?
[12:58] <uga> dekc: there's prebuilt packages for kubuntu gutsy
[12:58] <uga> but not sure if those are safe to be installed on a feisty box
[12:58] <dekc> can cause problems
[12:58] <dekc> or just don't work?
[12:58] <uga> just not work or break other packs
[12:58] <uga> dekc: you can install it from kubuntu sources
[12:59] <uga> dekc: as it's described here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[12:59] <gary_> can anyone answer a quick question for me?  trying to install Nvidia FX 5200 in Feisty; is the driver nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, or the  new?
[01:00] <uga> dekc: you'd need to make apt-get use the gutsy sources though
[01:00] <uga> so that would download the latest version
[01:00] <uga> then it'd rebuild the package for your system and install it
[01:01] <dekc> is this package avaible on getdeb?
[01:02] <dekc> nope
[01:03] <dekc> it will be realesd 1.0.14 on feisty??
[01:04] <uga> dekc: possibly not. gutsy is in beta stage to be released some time soon...
[01:04] <uga> you could request a backport though
[01:04] <dekc> is there some problems if i do apt-get distro upgrade?
[01:04] <dekc> when it's official gutsy
[01:05] <Jucato> Oct. 2007
[01:05] <dekc> k thx but
[01:05] <uga> dekc: your solution http://falcon.landure.fr/dists/feisty/alsa/
[01:06] <gary_> cough cough
[01:06] <dekc> thx much uga
[01:06] <dekc> it's this
[01:06] <dekc> alsa-base_1.0.14-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[01:06] <dekc> ?
[01:06] <dekc> no
[01:07] <dekc> i'm wrong
[01:07] <dekc> it's repo
[01:07] <uga> I believe it's alsa-driver thing you need to install, but possibly all of them
[01:07] <uga> just add the sources list, and upgrade
[01:07] <dekc> only add to sources
[01:07] <uga> it should add them all
[01:07] <uga> yes
[01:07] <dekc> and update
[01:07] <uga> yes
[01:07] <dekc> and then upgrade
[01:07] <dekc> i think its right
[01:07] <ilona> hi
[01:07] <Repsa_Jih> hey
[01:07] <gary_> what
[01:08] <dekc> now i try i tell you after if worked
[01:08] <ilona> i installed the kde4 beta packages and want to fully replace my kde3 with kde4 - how would i go about that?
[01:08] <dekc> thanks again
[01:09] <sredna> my konsole is broken
[01:09] <sredna> pipes doesn't work
[01:09] <sredna> xterm too
[01:10] <sredna> that is, the system
[01:10] <TunaTom> ilona: Have you looked at the current kde4.0 version? Are you sure you want to completely replace kde3 ?
[01:10] <sredna> what did you do to it?
[01:10] <ilona> TunaTom, this is a playground partition, so i don't mind breaking stuff or reverting to cli in case stuff goes boom
[01:10] <ilona> TunaTom, my main goal is to have the 'full' kde4 experience
[01:11] <TunaTom> ilona: Do you have a kdm-entry for kde4? That would perhaps be the first step.
[01:11] <sredna> isnt bash supposed to print the output of COMMAND to STDOUT in a command like "dosomething|COMMAND"???
[01:11] <sredna> it doesn't
[01:12] <ilona> TunaTom, on it
[01:14] <ilona> TunaTom, neat, thanks
[01:15] <TunaTom> ilona: I didn't do anything, did I?
[01:15] <sredna> ah, wrong order :S
[01:15] <TunaTom> sredna: Like "ps xa | grep init" ? Output of ps into grep?
[01:16] <ilona> TunaTom, well, you reminded me about reading about the kdm session blurb on kubuntu.org
[01:16] <TunaTom> lol
[01:17] <ilona> TunaTom, that was all i needed :)
[01:17] <TunaTom> you're welcome :)
[01:17] <enjoi1216> hey whats is up room
[01:17] <enjoi1216> ??
[01:18] <enjoi1216> hey whats up Kaminix
[01:19] <enjoi1216> is anybody awake in this room
[01:19] <enjoi1216> ??
[01:19] <TunaTom> enjoi1216: Hi.
[01:20] <enjoi1216> hey whats up tom
[01:20] <enjoi1216> hey tom why is it the more you use linux the more you end up loving it i mean that is just strange
[01:20] <ilona> the kde4 experience seems rather limited, atm :/
[01:20] <ilona> at least my widgets do not work
[01:21] <enjoi1216> whats going on ilona
[01:21] <TunaTom> ilona: Yes, that's true. Did you build from svn or install the kde4.0 beta2 packages?
[01:21] <ilona> the clock shows a section of a clock face in its upper left section
[01:21] <enjoi1216> hey tom is it possible to get support for any of the earlier linux operating systems
[01:21] <enjoi1216> ??
[01:21] <ilona> all the rest is 'could not load file' or this little icon telling you it could not fin images
[01:21] <ilona> TunaTom, beta2
[01:22] <enjoi1216> ilona
[01:22] <enjoi1216> what is up
[01:22] <TunaTom> ilona: It's more a technical preview than anything you can actually use fulltime atm.
[01:22] <Karti> Hi all, I would like to set up a DNS server on my LAMP server so that I can access MySql using a host name. Does someone have any pointers? Thanks
[01:22] <ilona> TunaTom, yah, i know. i still hoped it would have more than _this_ :p
[01:22] <ilona> i know it is not even a stable techbase to design and build stuff against, yet
[01:22] <enjoi1216> goodnight is everyone too good in here to talk to me this morning or what ??
[01:23] <ilona> still, all those screencasts made me expect more
[01:23] <enjoi1216> it seems like i'm ignored this morning
[01:23] <TunaTom> enjoi1216: What do you think you get as an answer when asking "What's up"? "Nothing"?
[01:23] <ilona> enjoi1216, you are not. it's just that you did not really ask anything that requires an answer
[01:24] <ilona> and yes, i suspect you can get support for older kubuntu releases in here
[01:24] <enjoi1216>  asked about the earlier versions of linux and i need to know about the Kubuntu fiesty fawn 7.04 weather it's full version software or not
[01:24] <ilona> Karti, i think it would be best if you described, in detail, what the end result should be
[01:25] <ilona> Karti, i fear you are confusing some things
[01:25] <enjoi1216> but see i have the linux mandrake 8.1 and it's hard to get anything on it
[01:25] <TunaTom> enjoi1216: If you want the _really_ old stuff, the ancient stuff, like linux-kernel 0.1, you can find it in the usenet.
[01:25] <ilona> enjoi1216, if you mean the kde weather applet, yes that is full software
[01:25] <TunaTom> nixternal? #kde-docs?
[01:26] <ilona> TunaTom, does svn have many improvements over beta2?
[01:26] <enjoi1216> well really tom Linux Mandrake 8.1 is not that old of a software when you really look at it
[01:26] <enjoi1216> because i don't think it was realeased until like 01 or 02
[01:26] <Karti> ilona: I have a LAMP server up and running, with a working MySQL database. I would like to access it using another workstation (kubuntu) using the installed MySQL client. When I join it I would like to join it by using its Host name rather than an IP address. It is all part of a home network with a
[01:26] <TunaTom> ilona: Of course. But still I doubt one would use it as fulltime replacement.
[01:27] <Karti> ilona: router that I currently have forgotten the password for ;(
[01:27] <TunaTom> enjoi1216: I don't think you find many supporters of Mandrake in #kubuntu :)
[01:27] <enjoi1216> Karti thats like the most intelligent and awesome comment
[01:28] <Karti> enjoi1216: :)
[01:28] <enjoi1216> about you talking about your networking
[01:28] <Karti> Eneloop: Yes
[01:28] <Karti> enjoi1216: Oops ....Yes
[01:28] <enjoi1216> yeah but you still can't knock it though because there are a lot of people that still love Mandrake stuff
[01:28] <ilona> Karti, i would suggest using /etc/hosts instead. that is easy, quick and requires no other setup
[01:29] <Karti> ilona: does that just equate the host to IPaddress?
[01:29] <ilona> TunaTom, nah, full time replacement is not really an option, atm. but as this partition is just a playground, i don't mind driving it into the wall
[01:29] <ilona> Karti, aye
[01:29] <TunaTom> ilona: Use kdesvn-build if you don't mind waiting 5 hours or more for the initial build.
[01:29] <bern> hi
[01:30] <bern> any help in syncing a pocketpc with kontact?
[01:30] <ilona> TunaTom, it's my gf's laptop, she has to decide that :p
[01:30] <TunaTom> ilona: That way you already know what has happened before the weekly commit digest :)
[01:30] <TunaTom> ilona: even better: you don't occupy your own box but someone else's :D
[01:31] <Karti> ilona: Thank you that would be perfect, using it as a static host :) Would I also have to do anything with regards letting me connect to the LAMP server (off the top of your head?)
[01:31] <ilona> TunaTom, but i doubt she would
[01:32] <TunaTom> ilona: well, then you won't have much more than the commit digest before the end of october
[01:34] <crazy_bus> I'm running edgy and I tried to install a deb from getdeb meant for edgy.  It said it needed newer versions of dependencies than it could get, but it still runs.  Is there any way to tell apt-get not to remove it everytime I try and install something new?
[01:35] <Insane`KDE> Hmm.
[01:35] <Insane`KDE> I can't seem to find the specs of my graphics card in kubuntu.
[01:38] <Insane`KDE> Mainly I'm edging to know wether it supports Pixel Shaders 2 or not
[01:41] <LjL> what would you suggest in order to make KDE use a custom spell-checker for its spell-checking component?
[01:41] <ilona> Karti, no, it will just work
[01:41] <murmulis> hello people have heard about ubuntu ultimate gamers edition?
[01:41] <LjL> (what i'm attempting to do is to make it guess which language is being used, via programs such as mguesser, since there's no way to select a specific language aside from changing the global setting)
[01:43] <uga> murmulis: and what does it run... vista? =)
[01:50] <dolphin_> hello! How I can install russian language on Gimp on my Kubuntu system?
[01:51] <murmulis> there is one way to set language in aplication.
[01:51] <murmulis> you mean that you could write in english
[01:51] <murmulis> tb russian
[01:52] <enrico_> hello
[01:52] <enrico_> i ' ve a simply question
[01:52] <enrico_> i' ve installed kubuntu
[01:52] <enrico_> and all works ok, chat, internet, etc
[01:52] <enrico_> but i can' t go in internet with konqueror
[01:53] <enrico_> it tells me that it cannot reach homepage
[01:53] <enrico_> for example www.google.com
[01:53] <fdoving> enrico_: quit network manager if you don't use it.
[01:54] <smorg> yep solved that one tonight myself
[01:54] <enrico_> what?
[01:54] <enrico_> how can i do that?
[01:54] <Jucato> oh, hi fdoving! long time :)
[01:54] <smorg> broken network icon in the lower left corner
[01:54] <smorg> right click & quit
[01:55] <enrico_> i closed it, but still i have this problem
[01:55] <smorg> Not a dns issue since ur on irc & probably didn't type in freenode's ip
[01:55] <fdoving> hi jucato :)
[01:55] <smorg> hm
[01:55] <enrico_> ah no
[01:55] <enrico_> sorry
[01:55] <enrico_> i solved
[01:55] <enrico_> thank you very much
[01:55] <smorg> try host www.google.com
[01:55] <enrico_> solution was very simple
[01:55] <smorg> :-)
[01:55] <deichgraf6> ola
[01:55] <enrico_> thank you very much
[01:55] <uga> you connected the rj45 plug? :P
[01:55] <enrico_> :-)
[02:00] <dolphin_> Where in Gimp applecation I can change language? I can't find...
[02:02] <uga> uhm... is there a way to tell what packages don't exist in the repositories anymore?
[02:03] <uga> I'm planning on a feisty->gutsy upgrade, but I'd like to ditch all those that don't exist in gutsy (yet)
[02:03] <uga> so that I don't end up with some old deprecated packages
[02:06] <uga> !gutsy
[02:06] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <Ryiel> !dvd
[02:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:09] <dekc> hi uga
[02:09] <uga> wb dekc
[02:09] <dekc> thx for all but nothing works
[02:09] <dekc> but i found the driver
[02:09] <dekc> on asus website
[02:09] <probs> hi everyone.
[02:09] <dekc> and when i try to run it
[02:09] <dekc> it tells me
[02:10] <dekc> no precompiled kernel found
[02:10] <dekc> :|???
[02:10] <dekc> and stops
[02:10] <dekc> what should i do?
[02:11] <dekc> do i have to compile the kernel?
[02:11] <dekc> to install that drivers?
[02:11] <probs> wonder if anyone can offer any advice on my probs burning dvds
[02:12] <uga> uhm... nobody knows how to remove orphan packages?????
[02:12] <uga> there ought to be a way in apt-get :/
[02:13] <probs> sorry uga, i dont know how....i dont suppose u know anyting about problems burning dvds...? lol
[02:13] <uga> probs: ask the question and somebody may answer. Don't ask to ask ;))
[02:13] <dekc> you can burn a dvd using k3b
[02:14] <contrast83> uga: apt-get autoremove --purge
[02:14] <mike> hello
[02:14] <uga> contrast83: oh, I just found a page that mentioned sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove purge
[02:14] <probs> thnx uga k3b wont do it, neither will  gnomebaker or whateverits called
[02:14] <uga> contrast83: thanks. So there's no need to use deborphan anymore
[02:15] <contrast83> deborphan will potentially also get rid of stuff you want if you don't watch it like a hawk.
[02:15] <uga> uhm okay
[02:15] <probs> i get the same error from both
[02:15] <contrast83> uga: i hear aptitude's better at cleaning up unneeded crap than apt-get. i've been switching over to that the past few days and i'm liking it so far
[02:16] <probs> WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=27h/ACQ=00h] : Input/output error
[02:16] <probs> googling that only turns up 3 results, none of em really have an answer.
[02:17] <contrast83> uga: deborphan *might* still come in handy once in a while, but imo, it's largely unnecessary so long as you uninstall things with the same program you installed them with
[02:17] <uga> I may use it after the cleanup to see if there's anything "left"
[02:17] <probs> tho one page suggests that the prob might originate from using ext3 fs... which i use
[02:18] <uga> contrast83: I just cant' undestand how it can be so hard to diff repos and dpkg list and see what's gone
[02:18] <contrast83> uga: ?
[02:18] <uga> contrast83: it's the only thing that the app needs to do. get a list of what's on the repository, check what's installed, and remove the differences
[02:19] <uga> what is installed yet not on the repo list
[02:19] <uga> I don't see the complexity on it to say one tool fails doing it right
[02:19] <contrast83> uga: erm
[02:19] <contrast83> that's a bad idea
[02:19] <uga> well, ignoring those that only come from the installer CD ;)
[02:19] <contrast83> what about apps downloaded from the web, or things no longer in the repos that one still wants
[02:20] <uga> contrast83: well, that's up to me ;)
[02:20] <contrast83> sorry for my bluntness, been up nearly 36 hours
[02:20] <contrast83> uga: i think aptitude has a function for what you're suggesting though
[02:20] <uga> get a rest... you'll end up like me. Either a nasty cold or a flu, not sure
[02:21] <contrast83> uga: man aptitude - one of the more helpful man pages i've read
[02:21] <uga> sure, but aptitude won't help much after I installed everything through apt-get, right?
[02:21] <contrast83> uga: well, i've already got pink eye, so it can't get too much worse
[02:21] <uga> =)
[02:21] <contrast83> uga: right. but i *think* you can tell it to uninstall packages that aren't available in the repos
[02:26] <probs> has anyone else experienced problems burning dvds when hds are ext3?
[02:28] <dekc> 0 problems
[02:29] <fdoving> probs: ext3 is most likely not the problem. in any case.
[02:29] <probs> yeah...thing is i dont think ive ever had problems in the past, and i think i was using ext3 for on my previous install....
[02:30] <probs> ya i wouldntve thot of so, but its the only clue, as i said, beign suggested as the source
[02:30] <probs> of one guys prob
[02:30] <probs> in the limited results i found when searchin that error message
[02:31] <probs> i cant track down much about dvd burning probs...
[02:32] <contrast83> !enter
[02:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:32] <contrast83> :-)
[02:32] <probs> and i have no idea where to start looking for myself.
[02:32] <probs> no prob.
[02:32] <uga> contrast83: oh, I didn't
[02:32] <uga> contrast83: know
[02:32] <uga> contrast83: there was..
[02:32] <contrast83> whoops
[02:32] <uga> contrast83: such rules ;))
[02:32] <contrast83> sorry
[02:32] <uga> kidding
[02:32] <contrast83> about that
[02:32] <contrast83> :-P
[02:33] <probs> lol
[02:33] <probs> can anyone offer some advice on where i should look for the source of the problem?
[02:34] <probs> pretty vague, as questions go, but...?
[02:34] <uga> probs: have you tried on the command line, using something like cdrecord?
[02:34] <uga> and using root. I wonder if it's some permissions problem
[02:35] <probs> i havent tries anything on commadline, but i tried k3b as root and same error.
[02:35] <contrast83> erm... wth. my lag's at 24 seconds o_O
[02:35] <uga> contrast83: rocked? rooted? rated?
[02:36] <contrast83> rated is close
[02:36] <uga> contrast83: you're not in the channel. You got disconnected. We cannot read you. That's why 24s lag
[02:36] <uga> oups, silly me, now he knows we read him ;)
[02:37] <contrast83> and incidentally, it's also the only one whose # of letters in the middle match the # of asterices :-P
[02:37] <contrast83> or is it asterisks?
[02:37] <probs> next thing i will do is try on cmdline.  thanks for yourtime.
[02:37] <contrast83> figuring out how to burn cd's from the command line has been on my to-do list way too long
[02:38] <uga> ouch, he left :/
[02:38] <uga> contrast83: cdrecord is plain simple
[02:39] <contrast83> thanks, i'll have a look at its man page when i'm actually coherent enough to understand it
[02:39] <wersdaluv> how do I remove the date from my kicker?
[02:39] <contrast83> wersdaluv: right-click -> Configure Clock
[02:39] <Jucato> wersdaluv: ^^^
[02:40] <contrast83> wersdaluv: Are you on an old Mac? :-D
[02:40] <uga> contrast83: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw image.iso
[02:40] <uga> contrast83: that's simple, right?
[02:40] <wersdaluv> it's not there contrast83, i have tried that already
[02:40] <wersdaluv> hi boss Jucato
[02:40] <uga> it'll complain you shouldn't use /dev/ device pointers, but don't care. It works and it's supported ;P
[02:41] <wersdaluv> sorry contrast83!
[02:41] <wersdaluv> I saw it already
[02:41] <contrast83> wersdaluv: You unchecked Date under Display in the dialog there?
[02:41] <contrast83> wersdaluv: np
[02:41] <wersdaluv> sorry.. visually challenged
[02:41] <wersdaluv> heheh
[02:42] <contrast83> oh, it's glasses. heh. for a second i thought he needed a two-button mouse. :-P
[02:42] <contrast83> j/k
[02:42] <wersdaluv> I'm not on a mac contrast83
[02:42] <wersdaluv> hehe
[02:42] <Jucato> contrast83: where we live, owning a Mac is a privilege that only a very few have
[02:42] <wersdaluv> although I want to have one
[02:42] <wersdaluv> hehe
[02:42] <contrast83> wersdaluv: i figured. just a bad joke
[02:42] <Jucato> :)
[02:43] <uga> Jucato: owning a mac isn't a privilege. I hope for a mac for all my worst enemies
[02:43] <contrast83> if it weren't for everything Apple represents to me, i'd want one too
[02:43] <uga> they just s*****ck
[02:43] <Jucato> ymmv
[02:43] <wersdaluv> I want a mac... hardware
[02:43] <uga> sick, I mean ;)
[02:43] <Jucato> anyway, let's not get into that
[02:44] <uga> Jucato: I've seen a mac lappie broken 3-4 times in 6 months. Taken to shop several times for fixing.... keyboard, power supply, monitor...
[02:44] <uga> plastic piece
[02:44] <Jucato> wersdaluv: you can reclaim your nick now :)
[02:45] <uga>  /msg NickServ ghost wers werspassword <-- would have done quicker
[02:45] <wersdaluv> you know why I wanted to remove the date from my kicker? my kicker's size is small now.. so windows-like even I hate it but I think having a taskbar with only one row just works better
[02:45] <wersdaluv> wow... uga knows my real nick
[02:45] <wersdaluv> hehehe
[02:46] <uga> your password, you mean? ;)
[02:46] <Jucato> elementary my dear wersdaluv, elementary
[02:46] <wersdaluv> <-- just started using IRC since... last week i think
[02:47] <uga> wersdaluv: get your nick(s) registered and if multiple, linked
[02:47] <uga>  type /query NickServ
[02:47] <uga> and then /help
[02:48] <wersdaluv> ok.. will do that sir :)
[02:48] <uga> wersdaluv:  sorry, just "help", without "/"
[02:49] <uga> wersdaluv: if you type "help register", it will show how to use register command
[02:49] <uga> etc
[02:49] <wersdaluv> ohh.. thanks
[02:49] <wersdaluv> am on NickServ now
[02:50] <Jucato> !register
[02:50] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:50] <Jucato> actually on freenode it's simple: /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:50] <uga> wersdaluv: once registered, if you get a ghost nick, or somebody else using your nick, you can kick him out by using the command "ghost" or "recover"
[02:51] <uga> wers: you can also have multiple nicks linked each other, wers, wers_out, wers_inluv, wers...
[02:51] <wers> you know why I use wers instead of wersdaluv? it is much easier to type so that people who want to talk to me wont have a hard time.. hehe
[02:51] <Jucato> !tab | wers
[02:51] <ubotu> wers: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:51] <Jucato> :)
[02:52] <uga> wers: use modern irc clients :P
[02:52] <wers> wow.. I'm learning so much
[02:52] <Jucato> I can just type "we" and press Tab.
[02:52] <Jucato> good
[02:52] <Jucato> :)
[02:52] <dangaio> hello. I have installed acidrip. I try to load a dvd and it just hangs... any pointers on how to fix this?
[02:52] <wers> wow.. so cool
[02:53] <contrast83> dangaio: Encrypted DVD?
[02:53] <uga> 59% [764 cvs 1431392/1699kB 84%]  <-- okay,... more than half done
[02:53] <dangaio> contrast83, any type.
[02:54] <dangaio> It doesn't matter if it's encrypted or not. It just doesn't load the dvd.
[02:55] <umarzuki> hi
[02:55] <umarzuki> i'd like 2 know how to mount my sata drive
[02:55] <umarzuki> hard disk
[02:56] <umarzuki> it's ext3 format
[02:56] <contrast83> dangaio: Anything in particular you like about AcidRip?
[02:57] <dangaio> besides that it's easy to use and I don't have to configure many things like in dvd::rip.
[02:57] <uga> umarzuki: sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt/mydisk
[02:57] <contrast83> dangaio: ever tried k9copy?
[02:58] <dangaio> no.
[02:58] <dangaio> will it do protected dvd's? I just convert movies to ipod format for my iPod video.
[02:58] <contrast83> That's the best DVD ripper for Linux IMNSHO
[02:58] <dangaio> oh, wait, it's the ipod classic.
[02:59] <contrast83> dangaio: I think any ripper will do encrypted discs so long as libdvdcss is installed
[02:59] <dangaio> k9copy... ok, is it available through apt-get?
[02:59] <contrast83> i believe so
[02:59] <contrast83> but umm...
[02:59] <contrast83> use aptitude instead. :-)
[03:00] <dangaio> never used aptitude.
[03:00] <uga> contrast83: your choice of preference shouldn't affect other users' tastes ;))
[03:01] <contrast83> uga: From what I've seen, usage of apt-get over aptitude isn't so much a matter of taste as it is not realizing there are any significant differences
[03:01] <contrast83> That's the only reason it took me so long to switch, at least,.. But yeah, point taken. :-)
[03:01] <uga> I really dislike aptitude's interface as much as to not suggest it
[03:02] <uga> the idea is nice, but the implementation isn't imho
[03:02] <contrast83> uga: are you talking about the ncurses interface, cli, or both?
[03:02] <uga> ncurses
[03:02] <uga> isn't aptitude about ncurses?
[03:03] <contrast83> when you run it w/o any arguments, yeah.
[03:03] <contrast83> otherwise it's just as cli-based as apt-get
[03:03] <dangaio> contrast83, I have libdvdcss2 installed. is this alright?
[03:03] <contrast83> dangaio: yeah
[03:06] <dangaio> contrast83, can I convert dvd to avi with k9copy? do you know of any place on the web that will tell me the difference from a dvd9 to dvd5?
[03:07] <contrast83> dangaio: it'll do that, yeah... and dvd9 = dual layer (~8.5GB), dvd5 = single layer (~4.3GB)
[03:07] <contrast83> dangaio: most movie dvd's you buy now come on dvd9's
[03:07] <dangaio> Ok.
[03:07] <dangaio> now I get it.
[03:08] <contrast83> cool
[03:23] <code_x> hello everyone, i have a problem i just installed ndiswrapper "sudo apt-get install  ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 " and when i try to load the module ndiswrapper it tell me "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[03:24] <code_x> any help will be welcome
[03:26] <code_x> no sugggestions ?
[03:34] <wers> Jucato, I still get "The spelling program could not be started. Please make sure you have set the correct spelling program and that it is properly configured and in your PATH."
[03:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> howdy Grandpa.
[03:40] <BluesKaj> hehe ...hi nosrednaekim
[03:41] <BluesKaj> offtopic but anyone here use NediaMax for Online storage ?
[03:41] <BluesKaj> errMediaMax
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: have you tested Gutsy yet?
[03:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, wasn't able to run my fav apps like google earth due to graphics driver probs
[03:43] <BluesKaj> so reverted to feisty
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> ah.... you have an ATI right?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:43] <wers> I do, BluesKaj
[03:43] <BluesKaj> I don't need a fancy card cuz i don't run games etc
[03:44] <BluesKaj> wers ,you do
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: odd, ATI works for me, (xpress200/1100
[03:44] <wers> yep.. mediamax
[03:44] <BluesKaj> what's you ropinion of mediamax , wers?
[03:45] <wers> it works for me..
[03:45] <wers> hehe
[03:45] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:45] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, which driver ?
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh... I was dumb enough to try the new ATI driver out..
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> (not "supported" on my card)
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> the 8.41
[03:46] <BluesKaj> my card is abit odd , it's the X200G , not the X200M ...really dunno what the diff is
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> messed up libGL, so anything using that totally froze the computer.
[03:46] <dangaio> contrast83, thanks. I am using k9copy now. Let me see how good the avi file looks.
[03:47] <BluesKaj> ok, the 8.41 driver is meant for stand alone pci graphics , is it not ?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> hmm.
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> desktop for laptop?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> *or
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: M _might_ mean "mobile"
[03:48] <BluesKaj> wers, what's the max amount of storage allowed on MediaMax Free ?
[03:48] <wers> 25GB
[03:48] <epsilorn> Hi all!, I've got a problem with my desktop, Harddisk and DVDicons disappeared and i cannot make them reappear (Even going in Desktop configuration)
[03:48] <BluesKaj> oh yeah, nosrednaekim ...makes sense ...mine's adesktop
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its techincally for the R600 chips, but Phoronix reported it work on R4xx, so I tried it out.
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> XGL/Beryl was noticably faster..
[03:49] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, did you DL from ATI or a mirror?
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah... thats probably what it is then... don't know what the "G" could stand for though.
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> probably one of those marketing things ;)
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> ATI. no, it wasn't corrupted.
[03:51] <dangaio> have anybody had their icons dissapear from the tool bars on all windows?  I don't have any icons on my toolbars and I would like to find them. Please if you find my icons can you send them home or tell me how to find them?
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> I had to say my card was a R600 though..
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> I switched back to the old driver since.
[03:51] <epsilorn> I've got only mounted volume icons disappeared
[03:52] <epsilorn> probably noone got the answer, any suggestion?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> I've had that happen ONCE... when I upgraded KDE versions
[03:53] <epsilorn> yes the same here
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> actually, I had just switched distros.
[03:53] <dangaio> is there any way to correct this?
[03:53] <epsilorn> yesterday i've done an upgrade (i've got 7.10)
[03:54] <Hamra> Helloes to all, this is the first time I run kubuntu, running it from the CD to test it, and i think it is great!
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> epsilorn: did you restart KDE?
[03:54] <epsilorn> do you mean reboot or only kde?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> the way I did it was erase the .kde... but don't do that
[03:54] <dangaio> I was trying to install a screen saver kcometen3 and it required that I install the kde-headers. Once I did, all my icons are gone...
[03:55] <epsilorn> anyway i've restarted my PC 3 or 4 times
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> epsilorn: support for that would be in #ubuntu, although they probably don't have a clue about KDE there.
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> umm #ubuntu+1
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> Hamra: cool
[03:55] <epsilorn> but nothing changed
[03:55] <epsilorn> do you know if kde got an irc channel?
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> epsilorn: just kde..
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> epsilorn: #kde
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> dangaio: odd... can you add them back?
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> epsilorn: ok.
[03:56] <epsilorn> thnks il try there
[03:56] <dangaio> no, I have tried and nothing.
[03:56] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, when you chose the driver which card designation did you use cuz all i could get was the 8.401
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> #kde
[03:57] <BluesKaj> prolly cuz I'm still on feisty , I suppose
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> I chose one of the new PCI cards.... the top on the list (the newest)
[03:58] <BluesKaj> and it works in feisty or gutsy ?
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> (if you meant on the ATI site.)
[03:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> well, it INSTALLS on fiesty.... It work if I had an officially supported card no doubt.
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: and make sure you install WITHOUT the debs..
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> just install straight from the .run (if you do it)
[04:00] <xiscogina> alguien sabe como configurar impresora en kubuntu
[04:00] <ellipsys> Morning ladies and gentlemen... mostly gentlemen...
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[04:00] <Dr_willis> and Cows. :)
[04:00] <BluesKaj> right just ./whateverfilename.run
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> morning :)
[04:00] <ellipsys> !es
[04:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> hey Dr_willis
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: right.. and don't choose to generate distro-specific packages.
[04:01] <ellipsys> Yes, Cows too!
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> Morning ellipsys
[04:01] <BluesKaj> where would that be , nosrednaekim
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: that option?
[04:02] <BluesKaj> disrt-specifics i mean
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> I think its on the fist page of the dialog.
[04:02] <ellipsys> Anyone have an idea why I /couldn't/ mount a couple of USB HDD volumes on fiesty? Seems my USB hard drive is being a pain on this laptop
[04:03] <Dr_willis> ellipsys,  try mounting them manually?
[04:04] <SeanTater> alsa will pass through my mic input to my speakers, but whenever I try to record it, I get perfect silence even though my speakers do not agree..
[04:04] <ellipsys> Dr_willis: Seems to not want to do that... let me get the exact error message. I think it was a timeout
[04:04] <SeanTater> why?
[04:05] <ellipsys> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[04:05] <raoul> hi, is there a meta-package to install all the kde development documentation?
[04:06] <Dr_willis> hal would be an auto mounting error.
[04:06] <ellipsys> They show up in Konq, but attempting to click on them gives me that.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> if ya manually try to mount it - it might give a better error message
[04:08] <ellipsys> Clicking "Mount" on the right click menu gives me the same thing... so I assume thats just a link to automount too?
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: correct
[04:08] <stdin> raoul: I think kdesdk-doc-html should get the documentation, if you want all the kde headers etc too then just do "sudo aptitude install kde-devel" and watch the MBs fly
[04:09] <ellipsys> Mounting it manually probably has to happen from bash then?
[04:09] <raoul> perfect, thanks a lot stdin :)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> ellipsys,  yes. :) learning to manually mount is a Linux Fundamental.
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> ellipsys: yup
[04:10] <ellipsys> Anyone have a tutorial perchance?  I've never had to do so before.
[04:11] <soon> Hi folks - I want to intall OpenOffice 2.3 on my 64bit AMD thing - I recon I can get it here : http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m228/Build-1/
[04:11] <ellipsys> !mount
[04:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[04:11] <soon> would that work ?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> ellipsys,  theres 100's of tutorals on mounting drives the old fashioned way. :) check google.
[04:12] <Hamlon> I just modprobed snd-ens1370 and snd-pcm-oss, and now i have no sound, any tips on reversing that?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whever  -t filesystem -o options go here.
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> rmmod
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> Hamlon: rmmod those two
[04:13] <Hamlon> Ok
[04:13] <soon> how do I install a .deb file from BASH?
[04:13] <llutz> soon: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[04:13] <ellipsys> !diskmounter
[04:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:13] <stdin> !deb
[04:13] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:13] <ellipsys> !fstab
[04:13] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:13] <soon> llutz - thx!
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> soon: sudo dpkg -i <filename>
[04:14] <Hamlon> Is there some way to reconfigure the sound system?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> ~alsa
[04:15] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[04:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:16] <soon> nosrednaekim - thx
[04:18] <BluesKaj> Hamlon, another suggestion :  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply '
[04:31] <XboxUser> Can anyone help me? I have an ATI Radeon 9250 and want to install the drivers for it because everything in kubuntu for me is kinda blurred, hopefully installing the drivers will fix it but I dunno where to get them from?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> !ati | XboxUser
[04:32] <ubotu> XboxUser: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <soon> Anyone know how I can install OpenOffice.org 2.3.0 on my 64 bit machine?
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> soon: the .deb didn't just work?
[04:37] <soon> The install seemed to run (didnt take very long though) but nothing shows up in KDE menus and running oowriter from CLI doenst either
[04:38] <soon> I ran : sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the directory which had all the files (inkl kde-integration)
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> try "soffice-writer" or something like that
[04:39] <BluesKaj> XboxUser, you can find the driver here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> soon: were they 32 or 64 bit debs?
[04:40] <soon> 64
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> ok.... do "sof<and press tab>" and see what it gives you.
[04:41] <XboxUser> how do I use that .run file?
[04:41] <XboxUser> I got ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run but dunno how to use it
[04:42] <BluesKaj> XboxUser, in the terminal,    ./whateverfilename.run
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> sudo ./whateverfilename.run
[04:42] <XboxUser> k thanks
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> XboxUser: there are easier ways to install it..
[04:43] <XboxUser> oh, such as? :)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> via the restricted-manager
[04:43] <XboxUser> how do i get into that?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> and then run it with "sudo restricted-manager"
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> and then enable the proprietary ATI driver :)
[04:44] <XboxUser> restricted-manager in konsole says Must be run as root
[04:45] <XboxUser> how do I do that/
[04:45] <soon> sorry nosredaekim .. I misse you posting above ... sof<tab> gives me software-properties-kde
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> thats it?
[04:45] <soon> yep
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> hmm...
[04:45] <soon> (Im not root though)
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> doesn't matter.
[04:46] <XboxUser> bash: /home/dan/Desktop/ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run: Permission denied
[04:46] <XboxUser> bah, how do I install the drivers then if I keep getting gay permission denied messages :(
[04:46] <ubuntu> !de
[04:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:47] <RurouniJones> XboxUser: You prefix the command with sudo
[04:47] <XboxUser> kk
[04:47] <RurouniJones> then enter the password when needed
[04:47] <RurouniJones> Or just su root, enter password and do what you need to.
[04:47] <Jucato> RurouniJones: su root won't work. the root user is "disabled"
[04:48] <XboxUser> how do I run ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run?
[04:48] <XboxUser> sudo ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run?
[04:50] <XboxUser> I keep gettin gpermissionn odisjfidsfjgf
[04:50] <XboxUser> permission denied
[04:50] <XboxUser> ??
[04:51] <BluesKaj> XboxUser, open the konsole , copy and paste this  ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run
[04:51] <soon> XboxUser check out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[04:52] <Streppel> hi
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> hey
[04:52] <soon> aloha
[04:53] <Streppel> someone may help me with compiz?i installed it on gutsy and it seems to work fine execpt that it throws away my window manager and doesn't start a new one
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> Streppel: you might need emerald (if you are talking about window decorations)
[04:54] <Streppel> yes i am and i already installed emerald
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> run "emerald --replace"
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> from and alt+f2
[04:56] <Streppel> it doesn't seem to do anything
[04:57] <Lynoure> !backup
[04:57] <Streppel> is there an error-log file somewhere where i may look at to find the error?
[04:57] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:57] <thomas__> can anyone give me the name of a really good hard disk image program?
[04:58] <Lynoure> !cloning
[04:58] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[04:58] <thomas__> Lynoure: what about cloning a windows drive?
[04:59] <Streppel> mhh i'll do a upgrade now for all my packs and try it then again
[04:59] <Lynoure> thomas__: I was just looking this up for myself, this time... I don't know much about windows system anymore, but dd works quite well for anything. and gparted too can move contents of partitions, perhaps clone them too
[05:00] <thomas__> Lynoure: k thx
[05:02] <thomas__> what about Partimage?
[05:07] <sArj> hi! i cant use my web browser Konquerror.. =\ i have a proper internet connection(as example irc is working now, w3m console browser  also work fine), but Konqurror say's
[05:07] <sArj> An error occurred while loading http://www.lafox.net/:
[05:07] <sArj> Could not connect to host http://www.lafox.net/.
[05:07] <sArj> any idea?
[05:11] <Streppel>  sArj is it just Konqueror?
[05:12] <sArj> Streppel, Opera has the same error
[05:13] <Streppel> are your networksettings correct?
[05:14] <Streppel> or was the networkcard detected correctly?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> Streppel, his irc client works ok
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> sArj: try pinging it.
[05:16] <sArj> i have  an disabled LAN card and hardware dial-up modem
[05:17] <sArj> --- google.com ping statistics ---
[05:17] <sArj> 55 packets transmitted, 46 received, 16% packet loss, time 54201ms
[05:17] <sArj> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 287.445/373.857/888.040/139.123 ms
[05:18] <sArj> but my browser still does not working
[05:18] <sArj> [sorry for my English ;), i am ukrainian] 
[05:20] <Streppel> "emerald: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"  "<--this is what emerald gives me when i try to start it
[05:21] <sArj> wait.. it loads the page icon, wich displayed at the adress of the site, wich i want to open
[05:21] <brill> Does anyone know how to change the default dvd player in kubuntu?
[05:21] <brill> Mine is stuck at kaffeine.
[05:22] <jhutchins> sArj: Usually that's either because you have accidentally set a web proxy, or because you have not and you need to.
[05:22] <thomas__> i have a question
[05:22] <jhutchins> brill: Right-click a DVD, choose "Open With", check "Remember" box.
[05:22] <jhutchins> thomas__: You do?
[05:22] <thomas__> image programs, do they only copy partitions? or can they image while hard drives wiithout choosing partitions?
[05:23] <brill> Jhutchins: Thanks!
[05:23] <sArj> but.. my browser connects to the server, because it loads an icon of that page
[05:25] <kloplop> Can somebody help me with apache? I screwed it up with the adept manager..
[05:25] <jhutchins> thomas__: most of them do partitions, but depends on the program, you'd have to look at the options.
[05:26] <thomas__> jhutchins: because I have a hard drive with windows, with 2 paritions, one of them with windows directory on them the other with some programs installed on the partition? how would I go about imaging that hard drive?
[05:26] <sArj> and.. i can browse the web with console browser w3m or links ;).. i dont need a proxy!
[05:27] <jhutchins> thomas__: again, depends on which software you're using, but no difficulty imaging each partition.
[05:28] <kloplop> how do I purge apache?
[05:29] <thomas__> jhutchins: but 1 partition won't work without the other, because I have programs installed on both directories. Do I have to do a whole image of a hard drive or can I do seperately?
[05:29] <jhutchins> You can do them seperately, just be sure to restore both in the same order for Windows to work - need to get the same drive letter assigned.
[05:34] <chris_> how do i change my resolution above 640x480 if in system settings thats as high as it will go
[05:35] <chris_> how do i change my resolution above 640x480 if in system settings thats as high as it will go
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> chris_: what is your graphics chipset?
[05:36] <chris_> graphics card?
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[05:36] <chris_> just a minute
[05:37] <chris_> gforcefx 5200
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> chris_: ah..ok. get the nvidia driver then.
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[05:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <chris_> o.. lol guess that makes since
[05:39] <frb> 7.04 won't let me install the package "flashplugin-nonfree", do I have to do it manually?
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> frb: what does it say?
[05:39] <frb> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:40] <pag> !multiverse | frb
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:40] <ubotu> frb: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:40] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:41] <frb> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse  is already enabled in my sources.list
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> update you package lists..
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get update"
[05:41] <frb> I have, many times :/
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> frb: you can try doing it manually...
[05:51] <frb> I crashed adept again
[05:51] <dhq> is there a better im than kopette
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> Gaim/pidgin
[05:52] <Kubuntu> What software can I use to burn the kubuntu cd? I'm using winxp with a limited account.
[05:52] <dhq> Kubuntu, well k3b is the best
[05:52] <frb> Kubuntu: I don't know if you can
[05:53] <frb> Kubuntu: limited accounts are kinda painful
[05:53] <Kubuntu> I know
[05:53] <dhq> nosrednaekim, well does it support msn yahoo and jabber gtalk
[05:53] <Kubuntu> Doesn't any software support it?
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> dhq: yep
[05:54] <frb> !skype
[05:54] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:54] <dhq> nosrednaekim, so its gaim
[05:54] <dhq> !gaim
[05:54] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:55] <dhq> !pidgin
[05:55] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[05:56] <Kubuntu> Why can AOL force GAIM to swap name?
[05:56] <poison--> hi guys
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> hey...
[05:56] <Kubuntu> ey
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu: cause.... they can
[05:57] <Kubuntu> Can I make my own live cd?
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu: what do you mean by "make"
[05:57] <Kubuntu> With debian, with the x thini of my choise and the programs i like?
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu: you can... its some work... but yeah, you can
[05:58] <Kubuntu> ok
[05:58] <dhq> nosrednaekim, pidgin is not there in the repos
[05:58] <Kubuntu> Can I use the ps3 cd on a computer?
[05:58] <cloakable> No
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> dhq: yeah... just use GAIM.. pidgin is the next "version" of GAIM
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu: no
[05:59] <Kubuntu> doh
[05:59] <dhq> nosrednaekim, well what if it want pidgin
[05:59] <cloakable> Kubuntu: The PS3 is a different system to the PC :P
[05:59] <Kubuntu> Will wireless work with the ps3 version?
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> dhq: install GAIM first for all the dependencies, and then get pidgin from "www.getdeb.net"
[06:00] <Kubuntu> Is kubuntu debian with kde?
[06:00] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, he should be able to get it from the debuntu repo too.
[06:01] <dhq> NickPresta, well its not there in my repos
[06:01] <NickPresta> dhq, do you have the debuntu repo? 'deb http://repository.debuntu.org/ feisty multiverse'
[06:02] <stdin> Kubuntu: no, it's Ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome, Ubuntu is based on Debian tho
[06:03] <Kubuntu> So Ubuntu isn't debian with gnome, but debian +/- something and gnome?
[06:04] <stdin> Kubuntu: Ubuntu is Debian unstable frozen and worked on for 6 months, then releases. Ubuntu do a lot of patches to the stock Debian packages
[06:05] <Kubuntu> Would I notice any diffrence from stable Debian with KDE?
[06:05] <dhq> when will gusty stable release
[06:06] <NickPresta> !gutsy | dhq
[06:06] <ubotu> dhq: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <stdin> Kubuntu: well, the current stable Kubuntu uses KDE 3.5.6 and Gutsy (released on October) will use 3.5.7
[06:07] <Kubuntu> ok
[06:07] <jm87> ....
[06:08] <dhq> stdin, when will kde4 be released
[06:08] <Jucato> (although there are packages for KDE 3.5.7 for the current stable)
[06:08] <stdin> dhq: probably sometime in December
[06:08] <Kubuntu> I got an 10 years old computer (177mhz, 64mb ram, 3 gb hd, and a cd rom), would I have any chance to get anything similar to debian running on it?
[06:08] <trpr> haha. "when its ready" ill bet :\
[06:08] <Jucato> they'll make it ready for December. but of course nothing's completely set in stone.
[06:10] <Kubuntu> What linux live cd is smal and easy customizabole for a 10 year old computer?
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> Kubuntu: fluxbuntu MIGHT work
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> or DSL
[06:11] <ubunturos> Kubuntu: may be DSL or puppy linux
[06:12] <Kubuntu> Dsl worx, but it doesn't have many games, I laike games.
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> games on 177mhz?  heh... fugetabout it.
[06:13] <Kubuntu> I mean like pac man, tetris, and so on
[06:14] <stdin> most liveCD won't have too many games on them, installed systems will
[06:15] <NickPresta> How would I connect to an application running on my Windows machine downstairs on port 41952? I tried smb:/winxp:41952 and it doesn't show anything
[06:16] <nosrednaekim> try "http://<ipadr>:<port>
[06:24] <frb> !compiz-fusion
[06:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:27] <jm87> where i can find the program for my restricted  drivers
[06:29] <Kubuntu> I've heard that I can instal linux on a router. Can I get apache on my d-link router?
[06:30] <abominius> what is the italian irc channel for kububtu on this seerver?
[06:30] <stdin> Kubuntu: ##linux is a more appropriate place to ask that
[06:31] <stdin> !it | abominius
[06:31] <abominius> !it
[06:31] <ubotu> abominius: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:31] <stdin> #kubuntu-it
[06:31] <stdin> damn laggy bot :p
[06:31] <abominius> tnx
[06:31] <stdin> !lag
[06:31] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[06:31] <stdin> :)
[06:31] <abominius> good job :D
[06:31] <abominius> very good
[06:32] <underdog5004> I'm trying to make install this driver, but it fails on FATAL: Error inserting Intel537 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-5-486/kernel/drivers/char/Intel537.ko: Operation not permitted. Then insmod complains that the module Intel567 doesn't exist...
[06:33] <WoahWoah> Hey there. When I open Adept Manager a prompt comes up which says "you will not be able to change your system settings in any way because another system is using the packaging system database (probably another  Adept application or apt-get or aptitude. Please close the application before using this one" Anyone have any ideas?
[06:33] <abominius> underdog5004 try: sudo depmod -a
[06:33] <WoahWoah> Thanks!
[06:33] <frb> how do I convince kubuntu that my clock is not UTC?
[06:33] <underdog5004> ok
[06:34] <underdog5004> same problem when I try to reinstall
[06:35] <dhq> are there any voice messenger for linux  msn yahoo gtalk
[06:37] <underdog5004> so, depmod -a doesn't work
[06:38] <carlos> Boa Tarde
[06:38] <carlos> Algum do Brasil ?
[06:39] <Jucato> !br | carlos
[06:39] <ubotu> carlos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:39] <USMarine> carlos nao
[06:39] <stdin> frb: in /etc/default/rcS add "UTC=no"
[06:40] <frb> ah, thanks
[06:44] <maverick> i get this error message
[06:44] <maverick> Error occurred while initializing audio output method 'oss' -- virtual void COSSSoundPlayer::initialize() -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp -- Device or resource busy
[06:44] <maverick> sometimes with programs that playback audio files
[06:44] <maverick> any ideas?
[06:45] <USMarine> use alsa
[06:45] <maverick> USMarine: how ?
[06:45] <USMarine> alsadsp program-name
[06:46] <carlos> maverick, use alsaconf.
[06:46] <carlos> please, downloadind alsaconf.deb . find in this google
[06:46] <carlos> one step, install alsaconf.
[06:47] <carlos> two, run $alsaconf in this terminal.
[06:47] <carlos> alsaconf is initialized automatic.
[06:48] <maverick> carlos: it's in the repos alsa-utils package
[06:48] <maverick> i'll try it and get back to you
[06:48] <maverick> thanks
[06:48] <carlos> yes, i'm preffered alsaconf.
[06:48] <USMarine> i'm prefered by women
[06:49] <reinhold> hello
[06:49] <reinhold> can you please help me?
[06:49] <USMarine> reinhold don't ask to ask
[06:49] <carlos> but, alsaconf in this repositories deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
[06:49] <reinhold> i upgraded edgy to feisty ...
[06:49] <reinhold> but after the upgrade
[06:50] <stdin> carlos: don't use debian repositories with k/ubuntu
[06:50] <reinhold> the program crashed
[06:50] <USMarine> crashed where and how, what was the error
[06:50] <USMarine> ...
[06:50] <frb> !find libsigc-2.0.so.0
[06:50] <ubotu> File libsigc-2.0.so.0 found in libsigc++-2.0-0c2a, vmware-player
[06:51] <paulo_> hi people
[06:51] <dave_> ive just installed a network (ipp) printer, and its buggered up sane so now i cant scan, any ideas anyone
[06:52] <paulo_> how can i use firefox  i download this program and i cant install
[06:52] <reinhold> USMarine: ... can you help me?
[06:52] <ubunturos> paulo_: didn't use apt-get install?
[06:52] <dave_> paulo use adept to install it from the repository
[06:53] <fester> I put in a music CD which Kaffeine plays, but /media/cdrom0 can't read. How do I get Kubuntu to read the tracks on the music CD?
[06:53] <stdin> paulo_: open Adept from KMenu > System > Adept Manager. search for "firefox" ans install it
[06:53] <dave_> ive just installed a network (ipp) printer, and its buggered up sane so now i cant scan, any ideas anyone. it used a unified samsung driver
[06:53] <stdin> fester: you use audiocd:/ to see the tracks
[06:54] <paulo_> ok
[06:54] <paulo_> tanks
[06:54] <USMarine> paulo_ sudo aptitude install firefox
[06:54] <paulo_> im new  with kuibuntu
[06:54] <fester> stdin> do I type audiocd:/ at a command prompt?
[06:54] <paulo_> and the problem is what i speak spanish
[06:54] <paulo_> lol
[06:54] <stdin> fester: no, in konqueror
[06:54] <USMarine> fester no in konqueror
[06:54] <stdin> !es | paulo_
[06:54] <ubotu> paulo_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:54] <paulo_> ok
[06:55] <ubunturos> paulo_: join there and ask further
[06:55] <USMarine> paulo_ abre una consola
[06:55] <MojoPIkon> Hi :-)
[06:56] <fester> OK, now I can see the tracks, how do I get XMMS to see them?
[06:56] <USMarine> omfg, xmms sucks
[06:56] <USMarine> use amarok
[06:57] <dave_> anyone, can u help me fix sane
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: I really enjoyed your post on the Planet
[07:02] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ey thanks :)
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: !!! :)
[07:02] <Jucato> btw glad to see you again :)
[07:02] <maverick> USMarine: after alsaconf what's next ?
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yea I'm far too busy with school to even look at Ubuntu, it sucks. keep working on it while I'm gone :)
[07:03] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ooh but mozilla needs your love! :)
[07:03] <Jucato> (someone I know just had to use iceape on gutsy because of firefox problems)
[07:11] <poison--> Jucato, tribe 5 with too much bugs?
[07:11] <Jucato> hm... not much from where I'm standing....
[07:11] <Jucato> some bugs from kdepim here and there
[07:15] <elnano> ciao a tutti
[07:15] <elnano> c' nessuno?
[07:15] <elnano> raga?
[07:15] <Jucato> !it | elnano
[07:15] <ubotu> elnano: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:15] <elnano> thanks;)
[07:16] <poison--> Jucato, im testing the OEM install atm og tribe 5
[07:16] <poison--> seems ok
[07:16] <poison--> need a way to ghost the installation
[07:16] <poison--> gonna produce laptops with it
[07:16] <Jucato> oh haven't done any OEM installs ever.. so I wouldn't know that
[07:19] <what_ever> hello anyone :)
[07:19] <Jucato> !hi | what_ever
[07:19] <ubotu> what_ever: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:20] <ubunturos> hello what_ever
[07:23] <frb> !dvd
[07:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:26] <georo> @Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team
[07:27] <uga> strange. why doesn't ubotu suggest k3b instead
[07:27] <antonx> hi hab nen neues notebook mit kubuntu gibts nen gutes spiel was ich auf die schnelle installieren kann??
[07:27] <georo> hi a have some problem my desktop did`t work and loading
[07:27] <Jucato> !de | antonx
[07:28] <ubotu> antonx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:28] <georo> is only black screen no desktop
[07:28] <antonx> hi ive got a new notebook with kubuntu, is there a good fpshooter which i could install fast with adept?
[07:29] <georo> some one can help me ?
[07:32] <kreib> georo:  did it use to load before this happened?
[07:32] <georo> no
[07:32] <georo> yes yes
[07:32] <georo> is o
[07:33] <RurouniJones> Is this after logging in?
[07:33] <georo> is load but after load is give a black screen no desktop
[07:33] <georo> yes
[07:33] <RurouniJones> run out of space on the harddisk?
[07:33] <RurouniJones> That was what caused the problem for me
[07:34] <georo> maby is with a harddisk is not  load a os file
[07:35] <RurouniJones> georo, what nationality are you?
[07:35] <georo> lol kuwait
[07:35] <georo> sorry m lan is bad
[07:35] <RurouniJones> ...ok, maybe not a language channel for that ;)
[07:35] <frb> how does one play dvds on x64?
[07:35] <RurouniJones> My only suggestions is check the harddisk isn't full. Not sure what else it could be
[07:35] <georo> emm
[07:36] <georo> idont think is that solve my problem
[07:38] <raoul> are there no arabic *ubuntu arabic channels?
[07:39] <georo> i hope that
[07:39] <RurouniJones> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce14
[07:39] <RurouniJones> Not that I can see
[07:40] <RurouniJones> Unless there is another arabic speaking country in that list
[07:40] <RurouniJones> I am not really up to date on middle-east languages
[07:41] <raoul> iran
[07:41] <raoul> #ubuntu-ir : cant imagine its that well populated though
[07:42] <RurouniJones> I thought about Iran but wasn't sure so didn't say.
[07:42] <raoul> also egypt #ubuntu-eg
[07:42] <georo> what that /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0
[07:42] <emilsedgh> im iranian, anyone wants help?
[07:42] <RurouniJones> heh, iran has more users.
[07:42] <RurouniJones> emilsedgh: georo could do with help
[07:43] <georo> of
[07:43] <georo> ok for arab ?
[07:44] <emilsedgh> georo: are you Iranian?
[07:44] <georo> no
[07:46] <thomas__> how do I mount an external hard drive?
[07:46] <georo> RurouniJones maby my a hard dirve was disable
[07:47] <georo> thomas__ ntfs ?
[07:47] <thomas__> hmmm maybe
[07:47] <thomas__> probably
[07:47] <georo> ok  download ntfs-3g
[07:47] <thomas__> georo: it has no operating system
[07:47] <thomas__> georo: u have that already
[07:48] <georo> and make mount
[07:48] <thomas__> georo: *i have that
[07:48] <georo> wait  please
[07:48] <thomas__> georo: i've already mounted my internal windows ntfs drive but my external usb drive has no operating system
[07:49] <randal_> thomas - so it's not formated?
[07:49] <thomas__> randal_: all i want to do is transfer an image of my windows partitions on to it
[07:49] <thomas__> randal_: first i want to read that drive though
[07:50] <georo> hmm
[07:50] <thomas__> randal_: my external, i can already read my ntfs internal
[07:50] <akai> Hi , is anyone using beryl, i need a tip?
[07:50] <georo> but u can`t wirte
[07:50] <randal_> ok - thomas - well connect it, mount it, and see if it's readable - it should be
[07:51] <thomas__> georo: no
[07:51] <georo> randal_  can u help me ?
[07:51] <akai> I cant figure out how to set that panel displays only apps that are active on one side of cube...
[07:51] <thomas__> georo: i connected it, how to mount?
[07:51] <georo> wait
[07:52] <thomas__> randal_: its connected how to mount?
[07:53] <georo> im not pro for linux but some one help me  for this problem
[07:54] <georo> ur problem is easy but my problem is the desktop is not found !! my os not loading my desktop
[07:59] <georo> can some one help me?
[07:59] <maverick> i quit using alsa as my sound driver and am using OSS instead now, my question is : is there a way to associate the volume up/down and mute buttins with oss mixer...just as it used to be with Kmix ??
[08:04] <AlbertoP> kkathman, :-)
[08:05] <georo> can some one help me?
[08:07] <Azzco> Where can I find the pastebin?
[08:12] <poison--> where is firefox installed?
[08:12] <poison--> which dir?
[08:13] <AlbertoP> poison--, type: whereis firefox in a terminal
[08:13] <thomas__> how can you copy an image of windows if you have 2 partitions and you have programs installed on both of them? That means that windows needs both partitions to function right? Can you backup both partitions seperately or has to be whole hard disk?
[08:13] <poison--> ty albertop
[08:14] <AlbertoP> :)
[08:14] <poison--> so programs usually are installed under /bin/
[08:15] <AlbertoP> poison--, spread in various directories actually
[08:15] <AlbertoP>  /bin or /usr/bin contain binaries
[08:16] <poison--> seems the main executable is under /usr/lib/firefox
[08:16] <poison--> need to knwo to install flash
[08:16] <AlbertoP> actually firefox should be able to automatically install flash plugin when you need it
[08:21] <c0da> back
[08:24] <murali> hi
[08:24] <poison--> anyone knows whats the port for nessus server?
[08:24] <murali> can some one help
[08:24] <poison--> murali, ask
[08:24] <murali> i deleted the partitions
[08:25] <murali> I restored with partition table doctor
[08:25] <murali> but grub was not present
[08:26] <murali> so i used super grub to restore grub,menu came,but when chosen shows file not found error:15
[08:26] <poison--> !grub
[08:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:27] <poison--> :D
[08:28] <murali> but i was able to boot with super grub.when in grub menu.It shows file not found.LILO problem?
[08:29] <poison--> if u have grub, u dont habe lilo
[08:29] <murali> I just entered linux
[08:29] <georo> hi a have some problem my desktop did`t work and loading
[08:29] <poison--> Jucato
[08:30] <poison--> georo, what didnt work?
[08:32] <georo> my s
[08:32] <georo> my desktop
[08:32] <georo> a can`t access to my desktop
[08:32] <georo> is logon then stop then give me a black screen
[08:34] <murali> poison i tried
[08:34] <murali> currently I am in linux
[08:34] <murali> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:34] <murali>  (hd0,2)
[08:35] <murali> grub> root (hd0,2)
[08:35] <murali> grub> setup (hd0,2)
[08:35] <murali>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[08:35] <murali>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[08:35] <murali>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[08:35] <murali>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[08:35] <murali>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,2)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[08:35] <murali>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,2) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[08:35] <murali> .lst "... succeeded
[08:35] <murali> Done.
[08:35] <murali> something failed can u see poison
[08:36] <rustalot> is there a gpl violation hotline at the fsf?
[08:39] <poison--> murali, yes
[08:39] <georo> poison
[08:40] <georo> what is a solve ?
[08:40] <poison--> georo, are u on a laptop?
[08:40] <georo> yes
[08:40] <poison--> brand?
[08:40] <georo> ahh sorry my lan is bad what a brand ?
[08:40] <poison--> yes
[08:40] <poison--> is the laptop Asus, Acer?
[08:40] <poison--> dell?
[08:40] <poison--> HP
[08:41] <poison--> Via?
[08:41] <georo> toshiba
[08:41] <poison--> :D
[08:41] <poison--> mkay, reboot and add this to the boot line: acpi=off apm=on
[08:41] <georo> wh
[08:41] <georo> wait
[08:42] <georo> loooooool where i found a boot line in bois ?
[08:42] <georo> some one tell my a problem with a baryl
[08:43] <poison--> eheheh
[08:43] <poison--> when u reboot, press ESC to axx the menu
[08:43] <poison--> press "E" to edit
[08:44] <poison--> and add: acpi=off apm=on to the kernelo boot line
[08:44] <poison--> and boot
[08:44] <poison--> :D
[08:44] <poison--> [2179]  SSL_connect: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number
[08:44] <poison-->  with nessus, any ideas?
[08:45] <georo> okk
[08:45] <murali> hallo poison
[08:48] <georo> poison-- how i add this command
[08:48] <murali> now error 17
[08:49] <poison--> georo: when u reboot, press ESC to access the menu
[08:49] <murali> how to fix error 17 on grub menu,no boot
[08:49] <poison--> and add: acpi=off apm=on to the kernelo boot line
 and boot
[08:49] <georo> i now
[08:49] <poison--> murali, i think a reinstall will be faster and painless if u dont have any files to recover
[08:49] <georo> how i add this  acpi=off apm=on
[08:50] <AlbertoP> kkathman, ping :)
[08:50] <georo> im in a edit
[08:50] <poison--> just type in at the end of the line
[08:50] <murali> i have some files thst is 12 gb i tried to copy it windows ntfs failed.any other way?
[08:51] <poison--> try live cd and copy the files
[08:51] <murali> how?
[08:52] <georo> to a kernel ?
[08:54] <georo> ido what u say is not work !!!
[08:55] <poison--> murali, boot with the live cd inserted
[08:55] <poison--> !acpi
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <poison--> !boot
[08:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:56] <poison--> georo, try the first link
[08:56] <georo> ok
[08:56] <georo> this a new problem
[08:56] <georo> n
[08:56] <georo> in as
[08:56] <georo> in last few day i can access
[08:57] <georo> eisit
[08:57] <georo> ser
[08:57] <georo> my problem not with a cd desktop
[08:57] <poison--> i know georo
[08:57] <poison--> in the url, check for Option: acpi=off OR noacpi
[08:57] <poison--> Impact: This parameter disables the whole ACPI system. This may prove very useful, for example, if your computer does not support ACPI or if you think the ACPI implementation might cause some problems (for instance random reboots or system lockups).
[08:58] <poison--> Options for the boot command line.
[08:58] <poison--> look there
[08:58] <georo> ok
[09:01] <georo> i dont`t understand any thing all my problem icant access to my desktop is login then stop then i have a  blank screen
[09:01] <RytmenPinnen> is it normal to have 100 processe running? it seems awfully alot to me
[09:03] <mauri> i'm updating mi kubuntu using adept updater. My question is: where the packages are donloaded before to install
[09:05] <mauri> i'm updating mi kubuntu using adept updater. My question is: where the packages are donloaded before to install
[09:05] <NickPresta> mauri, I would assume /tmp
[09:05] <andy_123> hi all
[09:05] <NickPresta> !hi | andy_123
[09:05] <ubotu> andy_123: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:05] <andy_123> would like to test kubuntu
[09:05] <andy_123> have some hardware questions
[09:06] <andy_123> 1. does anyone use a twinhan dvb-c card?
[09:06] <andy_123> 2. what about ati 8.41 fglrx driver and kubuntu? does this work?
[09:06] <g-hennux> hi
[09:06] <georo> off
[09:06] <g-hennux> on a freshly installed kubuntu, ark fails to start
[09:06] <poison--> georo, u cant access your desktop, cause acpi is doing that
[09:06] <mauri> NickPresta: uhmmm, no there is nothing in tmp while updater is running
[09:07] <g-hennux> started from the console, i get "ERROR: communication problem with ark, it probably crashed"
[09:07] <poison--> mauri, why u want to know dat?
[09:07] <poison--> g-hennus, reinstall ark
[09:07] <mauri> poison--: becouse i would like to install by hends
[09:08] <poison--> u should dl packages manually than, and place them where u like
[09:08] <mauri> poison--: the packages are installed only when all of them are dowloaded
[09:08] <poison--> yes
[09:08] <g-hennux> poison--: doesn't make any difference
[09:08] <mauri> poison--: but i i don't wait until that
[09:08] <poison--> true
[09:08] <ScorpKing> hi poison-- :)
[09:08] <mauri> poison--: no new packages are installed
[09:08] <poison--> g-hennux, purge the installation of ark and reinstall
[09:09] <poison--> heyyyyyyyyy Scorpio
[09:09] <g-hennux> poison--: that's what i did
[09:09] <poison--> sup
[09:09] <poison--> didnt work?
[09:09] <ScorpKing> not much :D
[09:09] <g-hennux> poison--: nope, same error
[09:09] <poison--> dat sux
[09:09] <ScorpKing> lol
[09:09] <georo> poisen
[09:09] <poison--> so it crashes with all compacted file?
[09:09] <poison--> yo
[09:09] <georo> what a startx ?
[09:10] <poison--> if u type dat in the console, it will start the desktop
[09:10] <g-hennux> poison--: neither can i start "ark" nor "ark --extract anyfile.zip", always same message
[09:10] <poison--> damn
[09:10] <poison--> lemme do some research
[09:10] <poison--> justa  sec
[09:10] <georo> i tu
[09:10] <poison--> !ark
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <georo> i type
[09:10] <georo> r
[09:10] <georo> tell me no screens found
[09:10] <g-hennux> poison--: that's nice, apparently not many people have had that problem, if you google for it
[09:10] <poison--> true
[09:10] <poison--> just saw dat
[09:11] <poison--> maybe some dependencie package iis corrupted or missing
[09:11] <ScorpKing> georo: trying to start the desktop?
[09:11] <g-hennux> poison--: and i'm *not* sudoing or kdesuing
[09:11] <georo> yes
[09:11] <georo> but i a
[09:11] <g-hennux> poison--: how can i maybe see where it fails?
[09:11] <poison--> did u try: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:11] <georo> i can`t
[09:11] <ScorpKing> georo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[09:11] <g-hennux> poison--: nothing to do there
[09:11] <andy_123> no one using an ati 2600 xt here?
[09:11] <georo> i do it
[09:11] <georo> nothing usful
[09:12] <poison--> georo, is it kubuntu 7.04?
[09:12] <georo> yes
[09:12] <poison--> already told you, you need to disable ACPI so it boots to desktop
[09:12] <poison--> while u dont do dat, it wont work
[09:12] <ScorpKing> lol
[09:13] <georo> o
[09:13] <georo> i can do a boot
[09:13] <georo> im new user
[09:13] <poison--> easy georo, patience :D
[09:13] <poison--> i had millions of issues my first time
[09:13] <georo> ok step by step tell me
[09:13] <poison--> hell.. i still do
[09:13] <poison--> :D
[09:14] <poison--> in dat site i told you, theres everitin u need to know
[09:14] <g-hennux> folks, this sucks hard.
[09:14] <poison--> tell mje about it
[09:14] <georo> idid`t understand that site
[09:14] <poison--> i cant makie my damn samba to work properly
[09:14] <poison--> ok, georo
[09:14] <g-hennux> not enough that i have to deal with crappy installers for winmodems and graphics cards, now even reliable kde programs refuse to work
[09:14] <poison--> just a sec
[09:14] <g-hennux> i should go home
[09:14] <g-hennux> oh, i am home
[09:14] <georo> ok bro
[09:14] <poison--> ewhehhehehe
[09:15] <poison--> dont forget, linux is not windows
[09:15] <poison--> :D
[09:15] <g-hennux> poison--: you mean me?
[09:15] <poison--> no, georo
[09:15] <georo> lool
[09:15] <poison--> !boot
[09:15] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:15] <georo> i forger a windows
[09:16] <stamen> hi
[09:16] <georo> e
[09:16] <poison--> georo, is your nick registered?
[09:16] <georo> wait
[09:16] <g-hennux> any repo for acrobat reader?
[09:16] <poison--> !hi
[09:16] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:16] <georo> no
[09:16] <stamen> how can upgrade my open office to the newer version on their web site
[09:16] <poison--> register it
[09:16] <georo> why
[09:16] <poison--> so we can talk in private
[09:16] <georo> lol
[09:16] <georo> ok
[09:16] <georo> wait
[09:16] <g-hennux> i want, too :-)
[09:16] <poison--> stamen, use adept
[09:16] <ScorpKing> haha. i have a problem today. :) Suspend and Hibernate don't work on my laptop. suspend shuts the laptop down but i can't boot again and hibernate don't even shut down, it just give me a cursor and nothing happens. any ideas?
[09:16] <mauri> I have the following errors when use adept:
[09:16] <georo> go
[09:16] <stamen> but from there I can't upgrade it
[09:17] <mauri> Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 156
[09:17] <mauri> Major opcode:  145
[09:17] <mauri> Minor opcode:  3
[09:17] <mauri>  Resource id:  0x0
[09:17] <mauri> Failed to open device
[09:17] <Hamra> hello everyone, since i cant mount devices without having root rights, i mounted a windows partition from a root shell, but now, i cant access it through konqueror since only root has access!
[09:17] <stamen> poison--: I can't upgrade it from adept
[09:18] <stamen> poison--: it says all is new
[09:18] <Hamra> any work around, im still a newbie in linux
[09:18] <ScorpKing> Hamra: add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options when you mount it.
[09:18] <NickPresta> Hamra, how did you mount the windows partition?
[09:18] <NickPresta> Hamra, or listen to ScorpKing since that should work.
[09:19] <Hamra> thank you i'll try it
[09:20] <ScorpKing> Hamra: look at this site - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[09:20] <poison--> stamen, dont use the updater
[09:21] <poison--> go to: System - Adept
[09:22] <ScorpKing> !ntfs
[09:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:22] <ScorpKing> hmmm
[09:25] <level1> hi, a process called lisp.run is eating up all my cycles and I can't kill or killall it
[09:25] <g-hennux> level1: what do you mean, you cannot kill it?
[09:25] <g-hennux> level1: try kill -KILL, also known as kill -9
[09:26] <level1> g-hennux: well, I run kill and killall on it, and its still running
[09:26] <g-hennux> level1: but kill -KILL is definitely more impressive if you have people looking at your screen
[09:26] <level1> there should be a kill --with-fire
[09:27] <level1> maybe I'll alias that
[09:27] <g-hennux> if i run kdesu ark, everything runs fine
[09:28] <level1> my graphics card got banged up when I had ups ship my computer to my dorm, I think its dead
[09:28] <g-hennux> got it
[09:29] <level1> It'll power on, but the screen doesn't display anything, even a bios screen
[09:29] <g-hennux> i started an instance of ark started as root and so kde tried to show that instance instead of creating a new one for the user that started it [SOLVED] 
[09:30] <ScorpKing> level1: is the AGP the first graphics card in the BIOS? check with the cable plugged in the onboard graphics if your board got one.
[09:31] <level1> ScorpKing: it doesn't have an onboard gpu, and its not AGP, its PCI-E X16
[09:31] <level1> and theres only one PCI-E slot
[09:31] <poison--> omg
[09:31] <ScorpKing> level1: then it's broken. try talking to it nicely. :P
[09:31] <poison--> levell, did u try to reset the bios?
[09:32] <poison--> i wasted two cards last year
[09:32] <poison--> a x1650 and a x850gto
[09:32] <poison--> damn
[09:32] <poison--> in a row
[09:32] <poison--> lol
[09:32] <level1> poison--: how can I reset the bios without getting the screen up?
[09:32] <ScorpKing> on the mainboard.
[09:32] <USMarine> remove the video card
[09:32] <poison--> ermmm... open the case, remove the batery and use the cmos CLEAR
[09:33] <USMarine> or use the board jump
[09:33] <USMarine> jumper*
[09:33] <poison--> pout batery back on and reboot
[09:33] <poison--> yeah, clear the cmos by changein the jumper position to CLEAR
[09:37] <gabriel_> br?
[09:38] <USMarine> brasil?
[09:38] <USMarine> !br
[09:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:38] <gabriel_> oi
[09:38] <gabriel_> !br
[09:43] <poison--> gabriel_ falaeee
[09:43] <poison--> lmao
[09:43] <georo> my world is over !
[09:43] <nixternal> USMarine: oohrah!
[09:43] <poison--> ehehhe
[09:44] <USMarine> :P
[09:44] <USMarine> sempre fi
[09:45] <nixternal> gunner's mate guns, so I still get to blow stuff up :)
[09:45] <USMarine> oh yeah
[09:47] <also-rr> evening :) my mythtv/ubuntu install is going well
[09:47] <georo> offfffffffff
[09:48] <georo> one guy tell me a problem with beryl  and other guy tell me a os is gone is bad luck to day
[09:49] <ScorpKing> georo: what happened?
[09:49] <georo> us
[09:49] <georo> just same a problem
[09:49] <USMarine> well i can't get beryl to work properly with multi desktops
[09:49] <georo> no noooo
[09:50] <ScorpKing> georo: no permission to write to ntfs?
[09:50] <georo> i  can`t access to my desktop
[09:50] <ScorpKing> oh. lol
[09:50] <georo> looooooooooool
[09:56] <FrostEyes> morn.. Anybody theres has played width phpldapadmin and SASL
[09:56] <FrostEyes> over GSSAPI
[09:57] <alex_> 
[09:57] <poison--> !ru
[09:57] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:57] <poison--> :D
[09:57] <alex_> thx
[09:57] <poison--> np
[10:06] <skylar> hey i need some help with my kubuntu install
[10:07] <g-hennux> lookup: then tell us about it :-)
[10:07] <lookup> im having trouble installing beryl
[10:07] <lookup> i just installed today but beryl's real trouble lol
[10:08] <USMarine> lookup how come?
[10:08] <lookup> i just can't get beryl installed
[10:08] <FrostEyes> Version?
[10:08] <FrostEyes> glxinfo
[10:09] <lookup> do you want me to send the whole glxinfo?
[10:09] <FrostEyes> what is your graphic card?
[10:09] <lookup> xfx geforce 7600
[10:09] <USMarine> using nvidia drivers?
[10:10] <lookup> i have the nvidia drivers installed
[10:10] <USMarine> composite enabled in xorg.conf?
[10:10] <FrostEyes> Have you AIGLX working?
[10:10] <lookup> i don't know how to do that
[10:10] <FrostEyes> just add Section Serverflags Option "composite" "true" EndSection
[10:10] <FrostEyes> Or something like that
[10:11] <lookup> lol idk linux is a whole new thing for me.
[10:12] <lookup> is there a way that you could walk me through it?
[10:12] <FrostEyes> Section "Extensions"
[10:12] <FrostEyes>         Option  "Composite" "Enable"
[10:12] <FrostEyes> EndSection
[10:12] <FrostEyes> copy the lines
[10:12] <USMarine> lookup http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/765
[10:13] <lookup> i copied the lines
[10:13] <ScorpKing> hey guys. i've been talking to georo. it seems his graphic drivers is broken. this is the problem - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=406146 . to fix it as shown in the last post he needs internet access. his internet use to be through kppp on the same machine but he can't start X to dail up. can someone help?
[10:13] <lookup> what do i edit them into?
[10:14] <USMarine> #
[10:14] <USMarine> Option "RenderAccel" "True"
[10:14] <USMarine> #
[10:14] <USMarine> Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"
[10:14] <USMarine> #
[10:14] <USMarine> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[10:14] <ScorpKing> he gets the famous black screen with blinking cursor.
[10:14] <ScorpKing> !paste
[10:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:14] <FrostEyes> You tjek your xorg.conf and if your don't have composite enabeled, you enable them..
[10:14] <USMarine> put that inside screen section
[10:14] <USMarine> DefaultDepth 24
[10:14] <georo> thanks alot
[10:14] <ubuntu_> hey guys have a question, on the live cd now, trying to access an ntfs drive, how do i access the information?\
[10:14] <ScorpKing> georo: np
[10:15] <ubuntu_> kkathman: hey can you help me with this by chance?  its zgmf-x20a
[10:15] <ubuntu_> drif: hey drif are you here???
[10:15] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_:  look at this site for ntfs - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[10:16] <ubuntu_> ScorpKing: i just need to access the data though.  how do i find it, or mount it???
[10:17] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: it's all there. mount the disk and copy the stuff. go read. :P
[10:19] <georo> How can I dail my Kppp connection from the command line?
[10:20] <emilsedgh> georo: i think you cannot, but use pppconfig, pon and poff OR wvdial
[10:20] <llutz> georo: kppp -h
[10:21] <llutz> emilsedgh: he can :)
[10:21] <emilsedgh> llutz: didnt know, sorry :)
[10:21] <georo> e
[10:21] <georo> hmmmmmmm
[10:21] <ubuntu_> Biovore: hey are yu here man?
[10:23] <ScorpKing> ubuntu_: still not mounted? hmmm. sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/
[10:27] <brill> Does anyone know how to change kubuntus autoplay of dvds
[10:28] <NoNameGod> lo all :|
[10:28] <NoNameGod> any can help?
[10:29] <Biovore> !ask
[10:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:29] <lucho> can someone help me with the configuration of a wifi card using ndiswrapper?
[10:29] <lucho> please
[10:29] <Biovore> !ndis
[10:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:29] <geore> @Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team
[10:29] <geore> back
[10:30] <NoNameGod> i have a BIG problem.,...i only can start PC with runlevel 1 :| in recovery mode....i get an error i've never seen before....timer not connected to IO-APIC
[10:31] <lucho> thx
[10:31] <Biovore> Dual CPU?  PIII SMP?
[10:31] <NoNameGod> i just finished to change mobo, processor and other few things
[10:31] <brill> boot using nolapic
[10:31] <NoNameGod> i have a new AM2
[10:31] <NoNameGod> :|
[10:31] <Biovore> 32bit OS? or 64bit OS?
[10:31] <NoNameGod> 32
[10:31] <NoNameGod> i still have to download 64 and try
[10:32] <NoNameGod> ...just bought the processor :|
[10:32] <brill> It's not the processor. It's the apic
[10:32] <NoNameGod> but now i'ld like to increas my runlevel....to 3 at least :D
[10:32] <geore> how i connect with kppp from command line ?
[10:32] <brill> boot with it turned off.
[10:32] <NoNameGod> i tried with noapic
[10:32] <Biovore> geore: you don't, kppp is a gui front end.. use wv-dial
[10:32] <NoNameGod> in grub config
[10:33] <brill> howabout apic=off
[10:33] <NoNameGod> and apic=debug as suggested in the warning :|
[10:33] <Biovore> geore: kind of comfussing to setup though..
[10:33] <ScorpKing> Biovore: he's new to linux. lol
[10:33] <Biovore> well.. good luck with that....
[10:34] <NoNameGod> Biovore: are you sure about apic=off?
[10:34] <Biovore> that might work.. no guarrenties though..
[10:34] <NoNameGod> i'll try...thanks :|
[10:34] <NoNameGod> :D
[10:34] <geore> i don`t have a startx
[10:34] <brill> It'll work. There's just some sideeffects though.
[10:35] <NoNameGod> cu soon :D (i hope)
[10:35] <geore> hmm
[10:41] <georo> how i connect with kppp from command line ?
[10:43] <demarcsek> hi all
[10:44] <quiltro> I'm not on the computer that has this problem right now, but I have a nvidia 8300 GS card with the latest driver, but every time I reboot the machine and kdm starts up, terminal 7 and terminal 1 have a gray background that's pretty useless until I reinstall the graphics driver (binary blob from nvidia)
[10:44] <quiltro> Is this is a known problem?
[10:44] <demarcsek> i have got a problem with Maxtor OneTouch III (USB 2.0, 320 GiB HDD). can anybody help me?
[10:45] <demarcsek> i can mount it, but i cannot write it as root or simple user
[10:45] <demarcsek> but it is in fstab and 'rw' is on
[10:47] <george> Anyone know how to get adobe flash installed on a 64bit Kubuntu?
[10:47] <quiltro> george: There's a wiki article on how to get it to work with 32-bit libraries, but as far as I know, there's no native 64-bit Flash.
[10:47] <demarcsek> it always say 'read-only filesystem':(
[10:48] <george> k thanks I will find the wiki, works fine on my 32bit thought there might be a solution
[10:48] <bioman> @ george i do
[10:48] <bioman> there is a script doing it automagically
[10:49] <bioman> google for nspw_install
[10:50] <ScorpKing> quiltro: it seems to be a common problem. i've seen many complains about that. :)
[10:51] <ScorpKing> demarcsek: ls -l /mountdir/ and see who own the files.
[10:52] <quiltro> ScorpKing: The folks in #nvidia say delete all nvidia packages if you use the executable from nvidia with dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[10:53] <demarcsek> now, demarcsek
[10:53] <demarcsek> but demarcsek cannot write
[10:53] <demarcsek> just read
[10:53] <ScorpKing> quiltro: i wont know, but if they say so... :P
[10:53] <demarcsek> and if i want to modify permissions
[10:54] <Pitabred> george: you want to use nspluginwrapper and then install the flash-nonfree package
[10:54] <Pitabred> It shouldn't take too much work
[10:54] <demarcsek> it says the same 'read-only filesystem'
[10:54] <ScorpKing> demarcsek: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /mountdir/
[10:54] <ScorpKing> demarcsek: and then chmod 755 -R /mountdir/
[10:54] <Dr_willis> hmm.
[10:55] <ScorpKing> :)
[10:55] <Dr_willis> is this a vfat/ntfs filesystem hes mounting?
[10:55] <demarcsek> ntfs
[10:55] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:55] <Dr_willis> I dont think that the chmod/chown works with ntfs/vfat moubnted filesystems. at least it dident used to.
[10:55] <ScorpKing> demarcsek: look at this site for ntfs - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[10:55] <Dr_willis> Normally the umask/dmask/fmask options are used.
[10:55] <demarcsek> i have done that, but it did not work...
[10:56] <demarcsek> i am trying to umount...
[10:56] <Dr_willis> what error it give when unmounting?
[10:56] <demarcsek> nothing
[10:56] <demarcsek> it works
[10:57] <Dr_willis> Ok... :)   guess ive totally missed the problem then.
[10:57] <demarcsek> but i can't write :(
[10:57] <Dr_willis> You need to mount it proplery with the proper umask option In most cases.
[10:57] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: not quite.
[10:57] <Dr_willis> actually with ntfs - you should be using the ntfs-3g for writing i belive is the reccomended way
[10:57] <ScorpKing> true
[10:58] <Dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[10:58] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[10:58] <Dr_willis> i always use that tool. :)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> i also have found it best to avoide writing to ntfs if at all possible. :) "just in case"
[10:58] <ScorpKing> and there is...
[10:59] <ScorpKing> !ntfs
[10:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:59] <demarcsek> i am trying...
[10:59] <ScorpKing> lol. good luck
[10:59] <nick_> i just installed and partitioned a new hdd using gpart and i can see the hdd under system storage but if i try to past files in it it says acces denieds
[10:59] <demarcsek> thx :)
[10:59] <ScorpKing> np
[10:59] <Dr_willis> nick_,  you are refering to a windows drive/partition?
[11:00] <mriou> hi, probably a lame question but I've been googling for 30mn without finding an answer. I want to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy (alpha, I know), what's the recommended way?
[11:00] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[11:00] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:00] <georo> @Mp3Q8.Us V1.0 By, Mp3Q8.Us Team
[11:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. There was (or will be soon) a upgrader tool I thought also.
[11:00] <jpatrick> mriou: there is no such thing as a lame question
[11:00] <mriou> it's the same for feisty->gutsy?
[11:00] <nick_> dr_willis no its a brand new clean hdd
[11:01] <Dr_willis> the old skool way is  - adjust the sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade I think.
[11:01] <mriou> there's dist-upgrade on ubuntu but couldn't find anything for kubuntu
[11:01] <Dr_willis> I always do a clean reinstall
[11:01] <Dr_willis> dist upgrade should work for either one.
[11:01] <mriou> yeah, I was going to do the sources.list patching but I was wondering if there was another "better" way
[11:02] <demarcsek> I have tryied it with ntfs-config, but it didn't work, and now i can't unmount too, because it says 'it is not mounted by HAL' LoL
[11:02] <uga> the mirror is seriously broken
[11:02] <uga> important packages are listed but then not found, like linux kernel modules...
[11:03] <mriou> uga: ok, thanks for the tip
[11:03] <gnomefreak> uga: sounds like release file is corrupt
[11:03] <Dr_willis> sudo umount whatever     'should' unmont it.
[11:03] <Dr_willis> assuming its mounted. (check mount command)
[11:03] <uga> mriou, gnomefreak: I migrated to uk.archive.... and I got 160 packages more, and the missing debs were found
[11:03] <gnomefreak> uk and gb get updates right away as they are the ones uploaded to
[11:04] <gnomefreak> so unless borked they will always have latest
[11:04] <demarcsek> ok, unmount completed, but now i cannot mount that :D
[11:04] <Dr_willis> use the shell.. not the gui
[11:04] <demarcsek> ok
[11:05] <demarcsek> i think, i should restart the computer...
[11:05] <Dr_willis> given that you are not sure of the state of the mounted things.. :)
[11:05] <mriou> Dr_willis: there's no dist upgrade on kubuntu afaik
[11:05] <demarcsek> :)
[11:05] <Dr_willis> mriou,  its a command you can run under ubuntu? if so - you can install it under kubuntu if you want.
[11:05] <NickPresta> mriou, `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[11:05] <Dr_willis> !find dist-upgrade
[11:06] <ubotu> File dist-upgrade found in feta
[11:06] <mriou> oh ok, you mean as an aptitude option, then yes
[11:06] <demarcsek> bye, really thank you!!
[11:06] <Dr_willis> mrigns,  i was refering to NickPresta 's sort of method. :)
[11:06] <MaTiAz> Anyone can recommend a calculator program which handles hexadecimal too?
[11:06] <USMarine> kcalc?
[11:06] <ScorpKing> i think kcalc does
[11:06] <Biovore> yeah.. kcalc
[11:07] <MaTiAz> ah, I missed the option first time, thanks :)
[11:07] <Biovore> speedcrunch does as well
[11:07] <Biovore> just have to type hex(value in dec)
[11:08] <nick_> dr_willis why do you think it is saying acces denied when i try to past files and how can i change the permisions?
[11:08] <uga> MaTiAz: if you need something more advanced, you could use speedcrunch
[11:10] <Dr_willis> nick_,  not sure of your exact drive layout. or what you are doing exactly. Perhaps restating/clarifying things will make it clear.
[11:11] <SanityInAnarchy> Can't get amarok to play flac files
[11:12] <nick_> dr_willis i installed a new hdd and patiioned it using gpart and mounted it using the guy and it shows up in the storage menue but when i try to past fito it it says acces denied
[11:13] <Dr_willis> nick_,  you are trying to paste things to it as a user? if so thats the problem. The drive is not owned by the user. make a directory ON the drive (as root with sudo) and chown That directory. The user can then access that dir  and thus the drive
[11:14] <Dr_willis> assuming its a ext3 drive. :)
[11:14] <mriou> just for the record, I'v found the non-old-skool way: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[11:14] <mriou> this gives you a nice blue upgrade button
[11:14] <nick_> dr_willis its is ext3 and how do i make a directory?
[11:15] <Dr_willis> sudo mkdir  whatever
[11:15] <Dr_willis>  it will be well worth the time to go through a bash tutorial or 2 :)    Shell Basics.
[11:15] <uga> Rute_
[11:15] <nick_> dr willis i will thanks for the help
[11:15] <Dr_willis> i always set up my extra hd's as a 'ExtraStorage' directory in my users home dirs.
[11:16] <Dr_willis> make that dir. chown it, then 'soft link'  (with ln -s) from /media/whatever/usersdir to /home/usersdir
[11:16] <g-hennux> how can i get the news overview for kontact start page? it's not in the option window
[11:16] <Dr_willis> that way they can access it a little easier.
[11:17] <uga> nick_: best linux tutorial around: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[11:17] <uga> there are pdfs online too, but right now I cant recall where...
[11:18] <nick_> uga i bookmarked it thanks
[11:18] <nick_> dr_willis what is chown it and how do i do it?
[11:20] <sstchur> after installing swat and then trying to browser to localhost:901, I'm getting "unable to connect".  What more do I have to do to setup swat?
[11:20] <Biovore> uga: Actualy that very good for people to start with who realy want to know linux
[11:20] <uga> nick_: http://rute.2038bug.com/node14.html.gz#SECTION001410000000000000000
[11:21] <uga> chown explained =)
[11:21] <uga> Biovore: one of the first tutorials I ever read
[11:21] <uga> old but still nice
[11:21] <uga> it covers almost everything
[11:22] <warren_> hello...I need help getting direct rendering to work
[11:22] <Biovore> rgr..  I like the order it introduces things.. ground up
[11:22] <Dr_willis> good answer. :)
[11:22] <NickPresta> uga, indeed. It is quite lengthy.
[11:22] <Dr_willis> with linux it pays to learn the fundamentals
[11:22] <nick_> uga il look at that thanks for the help i have been using linux for a while but have been afraid of the comand line
[11:23] <Dr_willis> Command line roxx's your soxx's
[11:23] <Dr_willis> I make my windows user friends dizzy when i start doing things on the command line..
[11:24] <Dr_willis>  They cant understand the vi editor appearing, me saving things, hitting up arrow. and so forth. :)
[11:24] <warren_> hello...can anyone help me with direct rendering?
[11:24] <Dr_willis> or typing in a 20+ character command   with | and  grep and so forth . on the fly.
[11:24] <lucho> in the manual for activating wifi it says i should remove a line, how do I do that?
[11:24] <Dr_willis> warren_,  can you be a little more specific?
[11:25] <Dr_willis> lucho,  depends on the line. and where its at.. most likely 'sudo EDITORYOULIKE /whatever/path/to/file/it/says'
[11:25] <nick_> its great when you know it but intemidateing at first if you grew up using windows
[11:25] <warren_> Well, I can't get direct rendering to work on my ATI  Radeon 9550
[11:25] <Dr_willis> warren_,  you did install the fglrx drivers?
[11:25] <uga> Dr_willis: better kdesu, since else he ll need to get access to X, first
[11:26] <ScorpKing> uga: thanks for the link. it's great!
[11:26] <warren_> Yes, but when I try to start an XGL session, the graphics are slanted and all corrupt
[11:26] <lucho> the thing is that I have to remove one of the wireless devices and in the manual it says I should remove the line or comment it with #
[11:26] <uga> oh, I missed that the same page contains a link to the pdf
[11:26] <lucho> what should I do?
[11:26] <Dr_willis> uga,  depends on his editor. :) but im old-skool.
[11:27] <uga> heh
[11:27] <Dr_willis> lucho,  what file where.. is the question
[11:27] <Dr_willis> lucho,  inserting a # in front of a line 'comments' it out. same as removeing it. (makes it easier to undo later if needed)
[11:27] <lucho> aaa
[11:27] <lucho> ok
[11:27] <lucho> thx
[11:28] <lookup> if anybody knows how to install beryl, i need some help
[11:28] <warren_> Good luck with Beryl...I've been trying to get that working for months!
[11:28] <Dr_willis> lookup,  at this time.. with gutsy due out soon. Id almost say.. wait :)
[11:31] <warren_> http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png
[11:31] <warren_> has a screenshot of what my graphics look like in an XGL session
[11:32] <daoudi5> hi friends
[11:32] <uga> heh, my last xgl session looked more sane than that, hehe
[11:32] <lookup> is ubuntu better to have to install that
[11:32] <daoudi5> what is the command  to see the linux partition free space?
[11:32] <uga> daoudi5: df -h
[11:32] <warren_> I've tried everything to get XGL to work...it always looks like that
[11:32] <warren_> http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png
[11:33] <ScorpKing> uga: i think this is the one http://www.math.mcgill.ca/lebaron/rute/rute.pdf
[11:33] <lookup> idk why is it so hard to install
[11:33] <uga> ScorpKing: the same page I pointed before includes a link to the pdf, on top
[11:34] <uga> I missed that, before
[11:34] <uga> what Im not sure about is whats the official mirror
[11:34] <ScorpKing> nope. goes to mweb.co.za for me
[11:34] <uga> (sorry about mistyping, but my kb is completely broken)
[11:34] <uga> ScorpKing: that must be the one. The author is from somewhere in south africa
[11:35] <ScorpKing> oh, so am i  :) thanks anyway.
[11:36] <uga> your name isn-t paul sheer by any chance, right?
[11:36] <uga> :)
[11:36] <ScorpKing> nope :D
[11:36] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:36] <xluchox> what do i have to do to comment?
[11:36] <xluchox> with # I mean
[11:37] <uga> anyway, brb
[11:37] <Dr_willis> xluchox,  we have no idea. depends on what the docs said..
[11:37] <xluchox> mmm
[11:37] <xluchox> ok
[11:37] <Dr_willis> Sounded like you said some line, in some file...
[11:38] <nick_> dr_willis: i typed chown nick video and i go the error changing ownership of `video': Operation not permitted
[11:38] <|newbie|> hi every one, I've installed a linux distribution, and i tried to set up firefox, but i've an error "error while loading shared librairies  libstdc++ : cannot poen shared object  file , no such file or directory"
[11:38] <wastedfluid> hey guys; how do i stop wallet from asking for a password for kopete+knetworkmanager on every startup?
[11:38] <xluchox> I put the command cat /etc/iftab to see the connections
[11:39] <Dr_willis> nick_,  since thats a system level change.. you would need to do it with sudo most likely
[11:39] <Dr_willis> sudo whatevercommand
[11:39] <xluchox> and there is one that I have to remove
[11:39] <Dr_willis> xluchox,  you can edit that file with 'sudo nano /etc/iftab' then put in a # where needed.
[11:40] <Dr_willis> I dont even Have that file. :) so cant help ya much more then that.
[11:40] <xluchox> thx
[11:40] <Dr_willis> or use some other editor.
[11:40] <nick_> Dr_willis omg i knew that im sorry for the stupid question i really need to turn the game off
[11:40] <frb> how do I watch a DVD in 7.04 x64?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> kdesu kate (or kedit) /path/to/file
[11:40] <Dr_willis> might work better.
[11:42] <g-hennux> i am installing a via graphics driver and have to compile that. in a line that says: "tmp = (OffMemRange *) MALLOC(OffMemRange);" i get a compile error saying: "error: expected expression before OffMemRange" - any idea what i missed?
[11:43] <georo> i try to login but no screen i can`t access to my desktop no screen no booting
[11:44] <Dr_willis> georo,  and has it ever worked?
[11:44] <georo> thanks
[11:45] <g-hennux> ScorpKing: maybe you have some chocolate? :-)
[11:45] <georo> no
[11:45] <ScorpKing> lol. maybe next time :D
[11:45] <Dr_willis> georo,  that would be good info to give initially. :) and also what is the video card/system you are using?
[11:46] <georo> lool im new user i do not give any thing god
[11:46] <georo> lool im new user i do not give any thing good
[11:46] <georo> is a first time give a blank screen
[11:47] <georo> i try this command startx but is tell me  not screens found
[11:47] <Dr_willis> The Live cd works and you can do that install? But the installed system fails to start up X properly the first boot?
[11:47] <georo> no no
[11:47] <georo> i intall a kubuntu is work and boot
[11:47] <ScorpKing> georo: can i explain? correct me if i'm wrong. :D
[11:48] <georo> =ok
[11:48] <georo> g
[11:48] <ScorpKing> lol.
[11:48] <georo> looool
[11:49] <georo> go scor explain
[11:49] <ScorpKing> he had byrel installed and removed it. X doesn't start. only a blank screen with cursor. he needs internet on that box to fix it but wvdail is not installed.
[11:49] <ScorpKing> byrel*
[11:49] <ScorpKing> or whatever
[11:50] <georo> beryl
[11:50] <georo> b
[11:50] <georo> i think a problem not with beryl
[11:50] <Dr_willis> sounds like the xorg.conf may be broken if  startx dosent work.
[11:50] <georo> i  think
[11:50] <Dr_willis> see if theres a backup and restore it. Or reconfigrye the X server. would be the 2 first steps to try
[11:50] <ScorpKing> xorg.conf is broken
[11:51] <warren_> Does anyone know how to fix this; http://www.vampsworld.com/Screenshot.png
[11:51] <Dr_willis> This is why i keep archives/backups of my systems and their various xorg.conf's at different times. :)
[11:51] <ScorpKing> what's the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !xorg
[11:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:51] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[11:52] <georo> emmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:52] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:52] <Dr_willis> perhaps also.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:52] <ScorpKing> i think he needs build-essential to run system-config-display --reconfigure but no internet
[11:52] <georo> lol
[11:52] <ScorpKing> hmmm. that could work
[11:53] <ScorpKing> maybe just a reinstall and dont' break it again. that will be a lot faster. :P
[11:53] <georo> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[11:54] <georo> i don`t understand why is broken
[11:54] <wathek> hello all I've a problem with my sound card there's no sound it's not muted and I checked the volume is in the top
[11:54] <wathek> this is what shows me lspci 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:56] <jimmy_> Hey, is anyone here?
[11:57] <sahin_h> wathek: I've got ICH7. And Kubuntu (and ubuntu too) use it a little bit tricky...
[11:57] <jimmy_> I just installed Kubuntu and am having some problems. I can't get sudu to work, it keeps saying that the commany isn't found. What should I do?
[11:57] <jimmy_> command*
[11:57] <sahin_h> wathek: Click on the audio icon, and click the mixer button.
[11:57] <wathek> sahin_h: it doesn't work well ?
[11:58] <wathek> sahin_h: and ?
[11:58] <sahin_h> wathek: Try to increase other channel too.
[11:58] <sahin_h> For myself I have to increase the PCM and the surround.
[11:59] <wathek> sahin_h: i've two channels Master and PCM
[11:59] <sahin_h> wathek: It's strange... I have many.
[12:01] <blekos> hi i'm using gutsy, the boot image says "gutsy gibbon development") linux-kernel....
[12:01] <blekos> will this be replaced on the final release?
[12:01] <sahin_h> blekos: Yes.
[12:01] <blekos> thnx
[12:02] <Biovore> blekos: just change /etc/issue
[12:02] <Biovore> :-P
[12:02] <blekos> :)
[12:02] <sahin_h> Biovore: This will be a cheat... ;-)
[12:03] <jimmy_> Can anyone help me out?
[12:04] <Pitabred> Someone should have told him the command is called "sudo", not "sudu"
[12:06] <ag3r> hi
[12:06] <ag3r> someone can help me
[12:06] <ag3r> i have som problems with beryl
[12:06] <ag3r> my desktops 2,3,4
[12:06] <Karti> Any MySQL gurus here, trying to connect via a client?
[12:06] <ag3r> when i move a window inside them
[12:06] <ag3r> it's like windows when any application stucks
[12:07] <ag3r> it repeats in all screen
[12:07] <ag3r> i can fill it with copies
[12:07] <ag3r> someone can help me?
[12:09] <Biovore> ag3r: thats a app hanging.. or not responding..
[12:09] <ag3r> Biovore:
[12:09] <daedalus> hi, how can i get libcurses library for ubuntu?
[12:09] <Biovore> alt-f2 xkill  then click on the window..  Will kill it..
[12:09] <ag3r> its beryl
[12:09] <Biovore> oh.. that just beryl :-P
[12:09] <ag3r> in desktop 2 3 4
[12:09] <ag3r> i move a window
[12:09] <ag3r> and the window multiplies
[12:09] <ag3r> a copies
[12:10] <ag3r> like in windows
[12:10] <Biovore> beryl is very picky.. its a play thing
[12:10] <ag3r> ?
[12:10] <Biovore> beryl has lots of bugs
[12:10] <ag3r> i know
[12:10] <Biovore> not ment for getting anything done..
[12:10] <ag3r> ok
[12:10] <Biovore> not officialy supported
[12:10] <ag3r> some like beryl that functions?
[12:11] <Biovore> beryl is all unstable stuff
[12:11] <Biovore> compviz also fall under this..
[12:11] <Biovore> !effects
[12:11] <ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:12] <gustavo> whats the best way to secure apache? chroot it mannually or using libapache2-mod-chroot?
[12:14] <Biovore> gustavo: depends on how much of a security nazi you want to be..
[12:14] <Biovore> I don't normaly run it in a chroot
[12:17] <ScorpKing> i have a problem. Suspend and Hibernate don't work on my laptop. suspend shuts the laptop down but i can't boot again and hibernate don't even shut down, it just give me a cursor and nothing happens. any ideas?
[12:17] <Biovore> suspend is kinda picky on hardware
[12:18] <Biovore> works here on my laptop
[12:18] <ScorpKing> what program is responsible for that?
[12:18] <kupesoft> I can't get network-manager-gnome to stop the annoying keyring pop-up even with the libpam-keyring fix,
[12:18] <kupesoft> is this an xubuntu-specific bug?
[12:21] <underdog5004> ugh, just spent the last 30 minutes on the phone with AT&T trying to get a static ip address for less than 80/month...not a pretty sight
[12:23] <en1gma> sup all
[12:24] <ScorpKing> hi
[12:24] <xluchox> did someone install a wireless card in kubuntu?
[12:25] <kupesoft> j # xubuntu
[12:25] <ScorpKing> yep
[12:25] <xluchox> I have been following many manuals and still cant configure it
[12:25] <ScorpKing> !wireless
[12:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:25] <en1gma> im gonna build my mom a linux box....just now am researching what distro im gonna give her....she is 60 years old and has used windows off and on for 10years BUT you might as well say she is super green to windows still because she forgets....anyhow what version of kubuntu do you think she qualifies for (i use debian mostly)
[12:25] <ScorpKing> xluchox: that helped?
[12:25] <xluchox> !wireless
[12:25] <xluchox> mmm
[12:25] <xluchox> no
[12:26] <xluchox> i tried to use ndiswrapper but the thing just doesnt work
[12:26] <ScorpKing> xluchox: what card do you have?
[12:27] <xluchox> Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[12:27] <ScorpKing> lol.
[12:27] <ScorpKing> what does dmesg | tail say?
[12:27] <ScorpKing> any errors about drivers?
[12:28] <xluchox> yes
[12:28] <xluchox> with bcm43xx
[12:28] <ScorpKing> !paste
[12:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <ScorpKing> ah. i know that one. have the same :D
[12:28] <ScorpKing> one sec... getting the link
[12:30] <xluchox> there i pasted it
[12:30] <ScorpKing> xluchox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[12:30] <ScorpKing> that's it. :)
[12:30] <xluchox> thx
[12:30] <ScorpKing> np
[12:42] <ABOMINIUS> !wacom
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ScorpKing> ugh, stupid connection.
[12:43] <ABOMINIUS> !input
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <ABOMINIUS> !tablet
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <ScorpKing> ABOMINIUS: what are you looking for?