[01:36] shh [01:36] CountX: there's a thought. it almost seems to be intentional though. i mean, it's been like that since edgy, probably earlier [01:36] if microsoft hears you they will find us [01:36] I got performance issues for my 8800 GTS card so.. :P === yeager [n=yeager@ubuntu/member/yeager] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] brb yall === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [01:39] I switched from Xgl to AIGLX and everything is much faster except for reflection, which I had to disable :( === yipe [n=yipe@12-218-171-233.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["I] [01:40] how do i get iptables to use a blacklist? === DanaG [n=dana@pcp027876pcs.wireless.calpoly.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:42] Xero: Intel? [01:42] contrast83, no. Old NVidia. [01:42] Ohh... Too old for nVidia rendering? [01:43] contrast83, no. It's using nVidia rendering. [01:43] Erm... [01:43] Apparently my understanding of AIGLX/XGL/nVidia is incorrect. [01:43] It's using the nvidia driver. [01:44] contrast83, no. It's probably my understanding that's wrong/ [01:44] s/'/'/. [01:44] Right, but the driver doesn't dictate the rendering method [01:45] Did you have to mess with your xorg.conf? [01:46] contrast83, no. [01:47] Just 'apt-get uninstall xserver-xgl'. No recent Xorg.conf-messings-with [01:47] heyhey i tried to format a partition with windows with GParted, looked like it worked, but then i couldn't write to the new partition. Then i opened GParted again and got an error "Can't have overlapping partitions. Segmentation fault (core dumped)" And it says the whole disk is "unallocated" now i cant touch anything, but ubuntu is still running perfectly.... What can i do??? [01:48] xgl is just installed by default, it's not actually in use. i don't think uninstalling that really does anything. maybe i'm wrong though [01:49] Xgl is installed by default? [01:49] but on gutsy, it does do something [01:49] installing the xserver-xgl package sets up Xgl and makes it the default session === RoC_MasterMind [n=Free@c-66-177-39-225.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] secher_: have you tried another partition system? [01:51] ohh... my fault. [01:51] secher_: like fdisk or cfdisk === contrast83 shuts up [01:51] no i havent, ill have a looksee === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:56] hmm.. kindof same errors === DeepB__ [i=Joe@84.78.85.237] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:58] secher_: have no idea mate === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marcel [n=marcel@72-48-91-35.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marcel is now known as CountX === asdfj [n=asdfj@62.229.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] i meessed upmy display [02:00] its too big of a resolution for my screen === asdfj [n=asdfj@62.229.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] :( damn.. isnt there a partion manager native in ubuntu? [02:01] gparted? [02:01] thats the one that doesnt work [02:01] or the one that messed it up [02:01] fdisk? [02:01] can anyone help me with my screen [02:01] its bad.. [02:01] like i have to move the mouse to see things [02:02] it scrolls around when i move my mouse [02:02] CountX: what did you do before the problem occured [02:03] CountX: Set something wrong in nVidia Settings? [02:03] contrast83: ya [02:03] i really dont know [02:03] i was setting up a second screen and had to restart X to continue, and its effed up now [02:04] all i did was add another screen and restart [02:04] CountX: Open a terminal and run this: grep -i virtual /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:05] CountX: did that return anything? [02:05] ya [02:05] Virtual 1400 1050 [02:05] there's the culprit [02:06] so now you want to run "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit the file [02:07] once it's open, hit Ctrl+W, type Virtual and hit Enter (that'll take you to the line). now just put # at the beginning of the line and restart X [02:07] CountX: If you want, you can pastebin your xorg.conf and i can check it for you before restarting x [02:08] ok [02:08] i will try === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:08] its a little dificult with this resolution' [02:09] http://pastebin.com/m3fe659e0 [02:12] help? [02:12] contrast83: http://pastebin.com/m3fe659e0 === contrast83 reading === Nergar [n=Nergar@189.141.117.249] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:14] hello [02:15] CountX: you didn't comment out that line. :-\ [02:15] http://pastebin.com/m278cb3b6 [02:15] that should set you straight [02:15] I'm trying the new dual screen "easy" set up in gutsy but i cant get my LCD to work, i have a Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:17] contrast83: do you recommend ctr+alt+delete? [02:17] the 'Screens and graphics' config tool doesn't work [02:17] contrast83: backspace i mean, to restart X === andre_pl [n=andre@bas2-london14-1088895037.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:17] CountX: if for some reason x doesn't want to start, you can hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal, log in, then run this command - sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/broken-xorg.conf && sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [02:17] is output hotplugging supposed to be in gutsy now? [02:18] CountX: No, just log out and at the login screen one of the menus should have an option for restarting X [02:18] hrrm... Seemingly using the gutsy kernel on feisty causes "device mapper" dmesg (kernel) errors! are these normal? [02:18] unless the all-knowing GNOME dev's deemed that potentially confusing from someone. :-P [02:18] andre_pl: display hotplugging... yes think so, but depends on drivers etc. what works i expect === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip72-210-64-240.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:19] ok, its not working for my tv-out on my nvidia card [02:19] i have the same problem but with intel === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-218-127.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:19] and i bet it wont work with ati === marcel [n=marcel@72-48-91-35.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marcel is now known as CountX [02:19] yeah, now the res is kinda small [02:20] adn i STILL have 3 network icons [02:20] nm-applet starts up 3 times [02:20] andre_pl, did you tired Screens and graphics under System>Administration ? [02:22] Nergar, yeah, it says the tv is enabled but its not [02:22] contrast83: The XRandR X extension was not found. This extension must be supported but the X server and enabled for display configuration settings to be dynamically applicable. [02:23] but=by [02:23] CountX: Is that from nVidia Settings? [02:24] contrast83: yeah... [02:24] not sure [02:24] contrast83: i cant change the resolution... [02:25] compiz recently stopped working for me too, like yesterday or the day before, anyone else? [02:25] me too [02:26] andre_pl: i've been hearing that from a lot of people. seems to be faulty packages. i'm compiling from GIT and it's working fine [02:26] hasn't been working for me in a long time [02:26] it also won't work *at all* with the latest free ati driver on aiglx. i had to downgrade on my laptop to fix it === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [02:28] CountX: commenting out that line for virtual screen size has nothing to do with RandR, but if you want to be extra sure, just open the file and uncomment it === DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Drizzt321 [n=drizzt_@user-24-236-73-31.knology.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:32] after a recent update of gutsy on my laptop, now when I use the fn+up/down for brightness control, it basically refuses to put the brightness up, but it will lower the brightness [02:32] Here's a workaround: [02:33] add this line to some file (choose one) in /etc/modprobe.d/: [02:33] options video no_automatic_changes=0 [02:33] ah, ok. sweet. this is going to be fixed in a future update? [02:33] and as root (sudo -i), do this: [02:33] echo 0 > /sys/module/video/parameters/no_automatic_changes === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [02:33] That's my workaround, but I haven't looked up bug reports on that. === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip70-181-154-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:34] thanks for the workaround === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@ignorance.campus.alfred.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrisjs169 [n=jack@pool-71-114-128-205.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:35] for some reason, my USB devices (mp3 player, flash drive) aren't automounting - I know I had this happen before, but forget how I fixed it - any tips? [02:37] My previously-unrelated bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/121833 [02:37] Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off between brightness levels during fades, and when on battery or at idle" [Low,Incomplete] === MojoPikon [n=carlos@1.Red-83-46-177.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === slonbg [n=chatzill@216.17.90.91] has joined #ubuntu+1 === larson9999 [n=larson@74-129-100-183.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:38] hi. dualboot XP and gutsy (tribe5). XP on hda1 and ubuntu on hda2 (swap hda3). I had to reinstall windows, so it destroyed grub. Win boots OK. I have saved the MBR before that, so I restored it, and now I have grub and can boot ubuntu. but trying to boot windows reports: error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format [02:38] any idea how to fix [02:38] i did not change menu.lst [02:38] this should stop gdm, right? sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [02:39] it is still root (hd0,0) / makeactive / chainloader +1 === marcel [n=marcel@72-48-91-35.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:39] larson9999: generally speaking, yes === marcel is now known as CountX [02:41] Drizzt321, and if it doesn't? [02:41] any tips for my auto-mounting issue? [02:42] larson9999: then you may have to kill it. If you are currently at the X server (aka you are looking at gdm, or gnome or whatever), you can give it ctl-alt-backspace (the X 3 finger salute) [02:42] larson9999: or use the killall command from the command line [02:42] or ps to find the actual pid number of gdm [02:42] and use the kill command [02:44] If Xorg locks up to where ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, it's time for alt-sysrq-k. [02:44] what is the fastest tabbed web broser [02:44] CountX: probably Opera [02:44] Dang, bug with 100.14.19 nvidia: vt switch causes Xorg to go black, and after a few times, it breaks the vt-switch keys. [02:45] I've gone back to .09. [02:45] any tips for my auto-mounting issue? [02:45] no clue, sorry chrisjs169 [02:46] Drizzt321: opera runs slow with like 7 tabs open [02:46] Drizzt321: anything else? [02:46] Drizzt321: sorry to bother [02:46] CountX: it does? slower than firefox? [02:47] Drizzt321: yes [02:47] huh [02:47] I thought it was pretty fast [02:47] Drizzt321: isnt there like something called swiftfox? [02:47] ah...I think there's a plugin something like that === slackern [i=slackern@81.94.93.216] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:49] Drizzt321, ok, thanks anyway - I'll try restarting again and see if it fixes anything [02:50] CountX: suggestion is to test different browsers yourself === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === mojo [n=mojo@124.109.66.202] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:57] If I have problems with 'casper' on gutsy, who should I get in touch with? [02:58] !bug [02:58] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [02:59] well [02:59] what if I want to discuss 1st [02:59] ppl said to me I have to get in touch with 'mdz' [02:59] is he usually here? [03:00] mojo: no hes normall in the -devel channels [03:00] mojo: file a bug is the best way to get it looked at === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:01] okay then === Seilo [n=seif@P5118.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tekhawk [n=caleb@c-67-182-161-179.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:02] checking for BIGBOARD_APPLET... configure: error: Package requirements (libpanelapplet-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8 dbus-1 ddm-1 gnome-desktop-2.0 gnome-vfs-2.0) were not met: [03:02] No package 'ddm-1' found [03:02] what shall i do [03:02] has anyone else noticed compz.real running away [03:03] amd64/nvidia platform [03:04] Seilo: you would have to get it from somewhere else if its not in our repos, that looks like an older app === rathel [n=rathel@c-24-9-186-226.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.48.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] Seilo: good luck with it, night all [03:04] night === XsteelWolf [n=XsteelWo@cm97.epsilon105.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === d4rkmonkey [n=Jared@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:10] argh, why has that computer and wrench icon not been updated yet [03:10] :P === tekhawk [n=caleb@c-67-182-161-179.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] anyone running latest updates on the amd64 platform === yeager [n=yeager@ubuntu/member/yeager] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] i just noticed i had run away gnome-system-monitor and run away compiz.real === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === onechard [n=chard@ip68-98-192-143.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:16] correction last update seems to have fix the compiz.real run away without patching compiz must have been xorg issue but now gnome-system-monitor runs away === Seilo [n=seif@P5118.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving."] === DigitalNinja [n=dhull@157-157-237-24-mvl.ewc.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrisjs169 [n=jack@pool-71-114-128-205.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:21] Argh, where are the gnome-screensaver settings stored? [03:21] I'm still having trouble with Gutsy auto-mounting USB devices [03:21] I want to fix 'flux' so it doesn't run at 500 FPS. [03:21] both my flash drive and mp3 player appear in dmesg, but Ubuntu isn't auto-mounting them [03:22] Is there anything I should try to get it auto-mounting them again? === stepomaticc_ [n=stepomat@85.127.104.109] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:24] Could be something in Gutsy is broken [03:25] Did you update everything [03:25] or should I say upgrade === matysek [n=matysek@117.Red-88-26-85.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:25] Upgraded all packages earlier today [03:25] I have a few things I need to upgrade [03:25] However, my usb drives work [03:25] aah, my answer to my question: /usr/share/applications/screensavers/ [03:25] hmm === rustlerharv [n=lance@24-236-176-122.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:26] I think I'm having trouble with printing though [03:26] Parts of "localhost:639" don't show up [03:26] I hope an update will fix it [03:26] sorry [03:26] upgrade [03:26] er, 631 [03:26] Not sure about that - I don't do printing much [03:26] You mean you don't print anything [03:27] ?? [03:27] localhost:631 [03:27] oh [03:27] that's the ipp/cups prot [03:27] port [03:27] That's the cups website [03:27] ah [03:27] most people don't know it's there [03:27] ya i guess not [03:28] The cups people don't tell you anything [03:28] lol [03:28] put "localhost:631" in your browser and you should get a website for cups [03:28] right [03:28] that is true [03:28] i use it [03:29] In my case I get the first page but clicking on a link gives me a broken page [03:29] I'm hoping an upgrade will fix that === derekS [n=dereks@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:30] Need to run [03:30] k === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cypherdelic [n=cypherde@p508ACE4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip72-210-64-240.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:38] heh, [03:38] - Skyrocket is broken. I see the explosions and then hear the sounds a few seconds later. Speed of sound at sea level = 344 m/s. Speed of light = 299,792,458 m/s. You need to get away from your computer for a while. Go out and see a real fireworks show. [03:38] http://reallyslick.com/faq.html#16 === SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@cblmdm72-241-92-132.buckeyecom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === shelagh [n=shelagh@203-219-222-168-cbr-pow-ts2-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === spasticteapot [n=joe@76.204.98.11] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip72-210-64-240.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 === terlmann [n=terlmann@207.254.168.168] has joined #ubuntu+1 === terlmann [n=terlmann@207.254.168.168] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Bye] === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joeamined [n=joeamine@poste144-167.wl.t.ulaval.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] hi [04:02] please help, [04:02] i upgraded from feisty to gutsy [04:02] and i m having problems configuring my nvidia card [04:03] i want to enable the proprietarz driver === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:05] dang, I don't like the new, darker icons in the Tangerine theme. [04:05] It violates the orange theme. === spine55 [n=spine55@68-184-127-37.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] DanaG: Go away and come back when you have a VALID problem. [04:07] :o [04:07] joeamined: have you done it b4 in feisty === DShepherd [n=dwight@72.252.133.113] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:07] For me, sleep mode does not work, things crash, and I'm using it anyway. [04:07] Wifi is a mess. [04:07] Battery life is a joke. [04:07] And you're complaining about COLORS? [04:07] Heck, you can just download the old ones.... [04:08] lol [04:08] spasticteapot: What PC do you have? since tribe-5 I've found Gutsy 99% OK [04:08] Thinkpad X40. [04:08] Two hours of battery life is just stupid. [04:08] Ack, it's an X41. [04:08] Brand new, BTW. [04:08] Oh, and I can't adjust the backlight. At all. [04:09] Looks similar in spec. to my Sony Vaio SRX51s [04:09] My T60 works fine. [04:10] Pici: The T61 and X61 have all sorts of wacky bits that don't quite work right. [04:10] spasticteapot: like what? [04:11] The soundcard, Intel's new wireless card, and for some strange reason, the backlight. [04:11] Also, I really wish that someone would fix ACPI. [04:12] Considering that Ubuntu is not very CPU-intensive compared to Vista, we should be getting better battery life, not worse. [04:12] What is your expected versus actual, and what battery size? [04:14] I keep meaning to try Gutsy on the travelmate tablet, but not had the time so far [04:14] spasticteapot: probably bad handling for the LCD [04:14] Yep. [04:15] IntuitiveNipple: I was hoping for three hours of AbiWord. [04:15] Have you filed bugs? [04:15] Pici: I'd have to get in line. === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:17] spasticteapot: what is the battery capacity in Watt-Hours? [04:18] Lemme check. [04:19] 38 watt hours, according to the sticker. === rustlerharv [n=lance@24-236-176-122.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:21] 3800mWh by the sound of it, the review says the standard battery is 4-cell, which would sound correct [04:22] Hmm, about brightness: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/121833 [04:22] Yup. [04:22] Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off between brightness levels during fades, and when on battery or at idle" [Low,Incomplete] [04:22] Starts unrelated, but new update is relevant. [04:22] Ah. [04:22] That might help. [04:23] Also, if you want the parameter to take effect immediately: [04:23] do this as root (sudo -i): echo 0 > /sys/module/video/parameters/no_automatic_changes [04:23] wtf? quodlibet isn't showing any files in my folders. [04:24] you obivously should be using Amarok [04:24] I usually do, but I wanted a GTK equivalent. === mluser [n=mluser@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:25] then you should be using AmaroG [04:25] Joke? === marcel [n=marcel@72-48-91-35.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marcel is now known as CountX [04:28] okay after much diliberation with myself and a total sleepless night.. im thinking of dual booting, and vmware to try and get myself to migrate permanently === joe_ [n=joe@76.204.98.11] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:30] Well, my thinkpad is still unable to adjust its brightness. [04:30] However, the Gnome Settings Daemon won't start. === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip72-210-64-240.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:36] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=2YC&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=gnome-settings-daemon+%22%27BadDevice,+invalid+or+uninitialized+input+device%27%22&spell=1 [04:36] argh [04:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/140485 [04:36] Launchpad bug 140485 in gnome-control-center "gnome-settings-daemon not starting with 1:2.19.92-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,Fix released] === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kevinO [n=kevin@66-227-221-83.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kevinO [n=kevin@66-227-221-83.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [04:45] anybody in here have a thinkpad with a radeon 7500 video card? [04:46] wanna help me with bug 141609 maybe? [04:46] Launchpad bug 141609 in xorg "startx fails with vesa, ati on T41 with Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141609 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rathel [n=rathel@c-24-9-186-226.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrigns_ [n=mrigns@ACADF01D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:50] how come when i delete stuff on a mounted ntfs drive it just makes the file disappear and it doesnt free any space, is there something im missing, an extra step, cause theres nothing in my trash can [04:51] anyone? [04:52] CountX: you're doing this from inside gutsy? [04:52] yes === mluser [n=mluser@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:52] my understanding was that NTFS could be read reliably under linux, but that writing to it was a Bad Idea (TM). I might be behind the times, tho [04:52] this is causing quite the frustration cause i need to free like 30gb === KurtKraut [n=ktk@unaffiliated/kurtkraut] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:53] im just deleting right now [04:53] but no free space is getting made [04:53] I intend to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy in order to report bugs. I'd like to try from update-manager, but even using the main repository, update-manager is unable to detect Gutsy. How should I proceed ? [04:53] do i need to log into windows and then clear the trash can within that OS? [04:53] KurtKraut: /etc/apt/sources.list [04:54] KurtKraut: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [04:54] KurtKraut: replace instances of "feisty" with "gutsy" [04:54] KurtKraut: and comment out backports if you have that enabled [04:54] that too [04:54] I'm trying the update-manager -c -d method, that is the main documented. === m1ke [n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:54] shouldn't it work ? [04:54] dunno. never tried it [04:54] This method is also recommended in http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5 === Xero [n=xero9364@c-24-126-30-244.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:55] personally what I did was burn a gutsy daily alternate iso [04:55] ive deleted like gb's and gb's with no free space being made [04:55] and during the install process told it to leave /home alone [04:55] anyone know whats up? [04:55] CountX: why not just back up the data you want from that partition and just blow away the partition? [04:55] CountX: replace NTFS with ext2 [04:55] CountX: there's a windows driver for ext if you still need windows [04:56] tarheelcoxn: because its a windows partition [04:56] tarheelcoxn: and its a 1tb hdd [04:56] CountX: our use FAT [04:56] s/our/or/ [04:56] tarheelcoxn: it would take all night and half of tomorrow to format [04:56] o.O why? [04:56] it shouldn't take more than half an hour or so [04:56] its a 1000gb HDD [04:57] 1TB [04:57] yes? and? [04:57] a 1.8ghz proc [04:57] I've done installs on 4TB systems [04:57] bus? SATA? [04:57] SATA [04:58] i reaaaaaly do not want to format it, [04:58] and i cant legally [04:58] ?? [04:58] cause i dont have any place to put all the files on it [04:58] and i need to FTP a shit-ton in the morning, so i need it ready for 8:30am [04:59] thats when the ips people get here, and when they start hooking us up to the ipx there is no time to waste, so i need everything ready and set for 8:30am [04:59] so boot back into windows and delete stuff? [04:59] formating is out of the question [04:59] i was just hoping i didnt have to === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] there is no way to do it in linux? [05:01] not reliably that I know of [05:01] NTFS is ugly [05:01] tell me about it === bex [n=bex@acad22394.westdorm.uic.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bex [n=bex@acad22394.westdorm.uic.edu] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [05:09] Is it worth reporting package conflicts during dist-upgrade ? === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === am8110lt2 [n=armin@dslb-084-058-009-197.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@c220-239-12-203.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mluser [n=mluser@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] wtf? Amarok just froze on play. [05:24] http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/122 [05:24] http://www.google.com/search?q=amarok+pulseaudio&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [05:25] er, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/85791 [05:25] Launchpad bug 85791 in amarok "Amarok loops through all songs when the sound device isn't available" [Medium,Confirmed] === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:25] Or better: http://www.google.com/search?q=amarok+pulseaudio&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a === rockets [n=zach@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rockets [n=zach@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === joeamined [n=joeamine@poste144-167.wl.t.ulaval.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:27] hi [05:28] i have a nvidia geforce go 7400, should i use ndivia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ? === acuster [n=acuster@adsl-1-89.adsl.easynet.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mssnlayam [n=suriya@cpe-72-177-64-218.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:33] Amarok often freezes on pause/resume. === mluser [n=mluser@ip68-0-70-23.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gaminggeek [n=caleb@203-97-115-119.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:43] Hey there [05:44] I'm having problems with azureus [05:44] Hi gaminggeek - more problems? [05:44] not starting? [05:46] rImpl::getSingleton::60,CryptoManagerFactory::getSingleton::33,AzureusCoreImpl::::155,AzureusCoreImpl::create::92,AzureusCoreFactory::create::46,Main::::143,Main::main::162 [05:46] Aborted (core dumped) [05:46] I think it might be my java version [05:46] when does that happen? when the splash-screen is coming up? [05:46] it shows the splash [05:47] and the main window for less than a second the crashes [05:47] gaminggeek, do you have the azureus from the repos? [05:47] ja [05:47] ok, I had that. I simply moved ~/.azueus directory to ~/.azureus-old [05:47] It was something in the older config [05:48] gaminggeek, the version from the repos always has problems.. try the one from the azureus site === cypherdelic [n=cypherde@p508ACE4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:48] IntuitiveNipple, yeah.. rm -r .azureus/logs does the trick [05:48] (I wish I could type without spellung mistaks!) [05:49] no need to remove all settings === CountX [n=marcel@72-48-91-35.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:49] can someone help me change the permissions of a fold? [05:49] Cooor! yesterday's daily looks like it may be the first Gutsy Desktop CD to load the Vaio notebooks [05:49] kalpik: I didn't have time to mess about; it solved the issue :) [05:50] IntuitiveNipple, yeah.. but only the version from the repos messes up from time to time.. the one from azureus.sf.net never does that [05:53] ahhh I see... well, I rarely use it so it wasn't important === mdj__ [n=ubuntu@66-169-183-71.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:54] removing the logs fixed it [05:54] thank you! === arooni [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:55] gaminggeek, you are welcome :) [05:55] but it just crashed again :( === mdj__ [n=ubuntu@66-169-183-71.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:56] gaminggeek, i'd suggest you to get the one from azureus.sf.net [05:56] gah [05:56] do they have a repo [05:57] I kinda dont want to go installing un managed stuff this early in the install :) [05:57] gaminggeek, no.. download the tar.gz and extract it! [05:57] that's all [05:57] It's Java :) [05:57] I might try deluge [05:57] Good plan. It works. [05:57] who packages azureus anyway? [05:57] gaminggeek, it has no dependancy! nothing un-managed about it! [05:58] gaminggeek, the one in the ubuntu repos is compiled using free java, and not sun java.. that's the problem [05:58] yea but what if there is an update or I want to remove it [05:58] gaminggeek: Only insane people. The package is lovecraftian in it's subtly. [05:58] gaminggeek, just delete the directory! [05:59] pah [05:59] I will just try deluge again [05:59] kalpik: Actually, it gets compiled to native code, so *should* be faster. Possibly. === TerraMaster [n=haaf@d66-183-247-91.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:59] what torrent clients do you use? [05:59] When I try to run an app in wine I get: MIcrosoft Visual C++ Runtime error - R6025 ~ Pure virtual function call This is when running a mmorpg called Lunia [05:59] RAOF, i didnt exactly get that [06:00] TerraMaster: #winehq might be able to help you === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] ok then [06:01] nobody is there [06:01] really? [06:01] yup just me [06:01] TerraMaster, try #wine [06:01] kalpik: What do you mean? [06:01] #winehq has 166 people in it [06:02] RAOF, why would the free java one run better than the sun java version?! [06:03] kalpik: Becase the free java one gets compiled to native code. The sun java one gets compiled to Java bytecode which then gets run on a VM. [06:03] That's the theory, at least [06:03] RAOF, the free java one compiles to native code?!!! i really dont believe that! do you have a link supporting it? [06:04] kalpik: Well, the free one can do both. It can build to native code, or to bytecode. [06:04] Let me check... [06:04] RAOF, but if you compile to native code, that beats the whole concept behind java! === rockets [n=zach@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] kalpik: man gcj ;) [06:06] No manual entry for gcj [06:06] :( [06:06] kalpik: Not really. Build once, run anywhere is only really useful when your on a stupid operating system (read: one without a package manager :P) === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1C30B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:06]