| TheMuso | And you are saying it gets deleted when you run debuild? What arguments are you passing to debuild? | 12:47 |
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| marseillai | debuild -S -sa | 12:48 |
| TheMuso | Have you checked debian/rules to see if it does anything that would cause the file to be deleted? | 12:48 |
| marseillai | i can show it to you | 12:49 |
| marseillai | but i've don't see anything | 12:49 |
| TheMuso | Ok. When you say its deleted, did you look in the debian directory after you ran the debuild command? | 12:49 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38176/ | 12:50 |
| marseillai | yes i've look into debian dir after debuild | 12:50 |
| TheMuso | ok | 12:50 |
| marseillai | the files are really deleted | 12:50 |
| mruiz | TheMuso, with your tip my pbuilder log is working ;-) Thanks! | 12:51 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok, there certainly is nothing there that should cause the file to be deleted. | 12:51 |
| TheMuso | mruiz: You're welcome. | 12:51 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: you have other idea ?? | 12:52 |
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| TheMuso | marseillai: Not without seeing your wrapper script, the package you are working on, and know ing the reason why you are creating a wrapper script in the first place. | 12:53 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: if i upload to revu coulp you take a look on that problem ? | 12:53 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Certainly. | 12:56 |
| marseillai | in fact i just think that if i upload to revu the wrapper will not be there | 12:57 |
| marseillai | so this is my wrapper : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38177/ | 12:57 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: theres nothing there | 12:58 |
| TheMuso | sorry, yes there is | 12:58 |
| marseillai | ah | 12:58 |
| marseillai | what ? | 12:58 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Why are you running something from /usr/share? /usr/share should not have any binaries in it. | 12:59 |
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| marseillai | i must set binaries and lib in the same directory for this apps TheMuso it's the reason i'm using the wrapper. i want install this wrapper in usr/bin | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: In that case, I would contact the upstream author of the package, and demand they change it. That is a very bad way of doing things. | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | * The root meaning of the word kolo is a wheel or circle, and it is the word used all over Southern Slav lands for the national dance in which both men and women join, taking hold of hands; the number of dancers increasing and the circle extending as the dance proceeds. Even in the remotest hamlets the dancing of the kolo is the best-loved form of recreation. Groups of village children,... | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Our God hath poured His wrath upon the Serbs, | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | For deadly sins withdrawn His favour from us: | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Our Rulers trampled underfoot all law, | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | With bloody hatred fought each other down. | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Tore from fraternal brows the living eyes: | 01:00 |
| TheMuso | If they won't, it needs to be patched. | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Authority and Law they cast aside, | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Instead chose folly as their rule and guide! | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | And those who served our kings became untrue, | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Crimson they bathed themselves in kingly blood! | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Our noblemen - Gods curse be on their souls - | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | Did tear and rend the Kingdom into pieces, | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | And wasted wantonly our people's power. | 01:00 |
| jebivjetar | The Serbian magnates - may their name rot out! - | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | !ops | 01:01 |
| ubotu | Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, or fbond | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | They scatterd broadcast Discords evil seed, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | And poisoned thus the life-springs of our race. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Our Serbian chiefs, most miserable cowards, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | The Serbian stock did heartlessly betray. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Accursed be Kossvos Evening Meal; | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Far better had it been if from that hour | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Our magnates all had disappeard for aye! | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | If only Milosh still remaind unto us, | 01:01 |
| Fujitsu | jebivjetar: Stop. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | With his two valiant Pbratims, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Then Serb would be with Serb to-day. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Thou Brankovitch, of stock despicable, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Should one serve so his Fatherland, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Thus much is Honesty esteemd? | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Who, Milosh, would not envy thee? | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | A victim thou to thine own truth and worth! | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | All-puissant spirit in the things of War; | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | A thunder mighty which did shatter thrones! | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | The deeds thy knightly soul hath wrought. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Outshine all lustre of the Past, - | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | The fame of Sparta and of mighty Rome! | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Their valiant and heroic feats | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Are all surpassd by thy proud arm. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Where is Leonidas. where Scaevola, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | When Obilitch doth enter the arena? | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | That arm of thine with but one only stroke | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Brought down a throne and made all Hell to quake! | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | Yet Milosh fell, most marvellous of knights, | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | A victim fell unto the world's great Scourge. | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | In proud repose the puissant Leader lies: | 01:01 |
| jebivjetar | There from his veins did spurt his noble blood, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Where he so proudly trod a while before, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | His breast possessd by one sole dread intent, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | As he did press his way through Asias hordes, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | He swallowd them with his great eyes of fire | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Where he so proudly trod a while before. | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Seeking his hallowd tomb and life immortal, | 01:02 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: it's too much complicated for me to make this sort of patch | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Scorning alike the failures of small men, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | And all that false and senseless company. | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Our God hath pourd His wrath upon the Serbs! | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | A seven-headed monster He sent forth | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | To plague and extirpate the Serbian Name, | 01:02 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok upload to revu, and I'll have a look. | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Be they betrayers or be they betrayd. | 01:02 |
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| jebivjetar | On falling rums of a realm heroic | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Did Milosh shine with firm and constant justice; | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Crowned be too, with an undying glory, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Those pbratims who steadfast were to Milosh; | 01:02 |
| Fujitsu | LjL: You don't have powers here :( | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Not less the lovely Jugovitch bouquet! | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | So parsed the Serbian Cap and Name away: | 01:02 |
| LjL | Fujitsu: afraid so | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Warrior lions gave place to ploughmen, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | While selfish poltroons took Mohammed's creed, - | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Their Serbian milk shall ever bring them plague! | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | All those who scaped from death by Moslem sword, | 01:02 |
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| jebivjetar | All those who still held true to Christian faith, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | Who with abhorrence thought of bonds and chains, | 01:02 |
| jebivjetar | All such as these took flight to mountains grey, | 01:02 |
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| LjL | well it seems i do | 01:02 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o LjL] by LjL | ||
| geser | thanks LjL | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, you're not on the access list. | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks. | 01:03 |
| LjL | indeed, it's a bit weird | 01:03 |
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| LjL | *shrug* | 01:03 |
| TheMuso | Reminds me of all that nonsense spam that circulates via email. | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | Heh | 01:04 |
| geser | spam filters for irc? | 01:04 |
| Amaranth | So does anyone know how I get access to the ubuntu-devel ml? | 01:05 |
| Amaranth | Without having all mails get stuck in the moderation queue | 01:05 |
| ScottK | Amaranth: Subscribe and some magive LP foo will take care of it. | 01:05 |
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| ScottK | magive/magic | 01:05 |
| Fujitsu | ScottK: I don't think it's magical at the moment. | 01:05 |
| Amaranth | I am subscribed | 01:05 |
| ScottK | Not while LP is down for maintenance, no. | 01:06 |
| Amaranth | Have been for a _long_ time | 01:06 |
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| Amaranth | I'll just try a mail and see what happens | 01:06 |
| ScottK | Fujitsu: IIRC I didn't have to do anything to have voice on the list. | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | Hm, OK. | 01:06 |
| Fujitsu | Well, they do have the mailman guy, IIRC, so it might be automatic. | 01:06 |
| ScottK | Well I'm old so I forget stuff too. | 01:06 |
| geser | doesn't it get checked against the registered emails for the devs in LP? | 01:07 |
| Amaranth | Then I'd better wait for LP to come back :) | 01:07 |
| ScottK | Of course it may have been done before it went away. As you will. | 01:07 |
| geser | Amaranth: is the e-mail which you use for writing to the ml registered in LP? | 01:08 |
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| TheMuso | Amaranth: congrats! | 01:08 |
| Amaranth | geser: yeah | 01:08 |
| Amaranth | TheMuso: thanks | 01:08 |
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| === Fujitsu wonders a couple of things. 1) Why don't they give us more than 15 minutes warning. 2) Why do they need to have two hours of updates within 24 hours. | ||
| Amaranth | Fujitsu: 1.1.9 broke something? | 01:09 |
| ScottK | Closing half the bugs got it tired. | 01:09 |
| Amaranth | hahaha | 01:09 |
| Amaranth | i got flooded | 01:09 |
| === ScottK too. | ||
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: Shouldn't take an hour to cherrypick, really. | 01:09 |
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| pwnguin | i wouldnt be surpised if gmail decided to mark it as spam | 01:10 |
| Amaranth | i bet they're doing the closing before bringing it back on, was probably too much email | 01:10 |
| Fujitsu | I was going to go through them, but they took it down :( | 01:10 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: Haha. | 01:10 |
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| Amaranth | Sending close notices to multiple people for thousands of bugs all in a few minutes...ouch | 01:10 |
| Fujitsu | And we're going to get a whole lot of unclosing emails next week, when they run the maintenance to revert some of the changes that shouldn't have been made. | 01:11 |
| TheMuso | oh fun | 01:11 |
| Amaranth | Really annoying that it closed bugs that were marked as a dupe of another bug | 01:11 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: That's one of the corner cases to be cherrypicked next week, AFAIK. | 01:11 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=279 sorry for the delay revu was slow to refresh | 01:11 |
| Amaranth | Marking it as a dupe should have closed it, now I know why the desktop team always marks bugs as invalid before | 01:12 |
| Fujitsu | Along with not killing things if there are upstream tasks, if they're milestoned, etc. | 01:12 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok thanks, I will have a look very shortly. | 01:12 |
| TheMuso | brb | 01:12 |
| marseillai | thanks | 01:12 |
| === pwnguin spent last night reading about open source prediction markets | ||
| pwnguin | i've yet to figure out why libertarians love open source | 01:12 |
| pwnguin | but i'll take their software all the same | 01:12 |
| ScottK | Of course I got stony glares in #launchpad this morning when I said I thought they needed to do a better job of thinking through new features BEFORE implementation. | 01:13 |
| ScottK | Urgh. | 01:13 |
| pwnguin | im thinking debian could use a prediction market or two to determine release dates ;) | 01:13 |
| geser | night * | 01:15 |
| Fujitsu | ScottK: And this was before the great janitor session of 3 hours ago? | 01:16 |
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| TheMuso | marseillai: Have you packaged this from scratch? | 01:28 |
| marseillai | yes | 01:29 |
| marseillai | euh | 01:29 |
| marseillai | what do you call from scratch ? | 01:29 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Why do you have several debian directories, debian-tmp, and debian-cdbs? | 01:29 |
| marseillai | arf | 01:29 |
| marseillai | it was some try | 01:29 |
| TheMuso | ok | 01:29 |
| marseillai | i've remove debiantemp and debiancdbs | 01:29 |
| TheMuso | I am checking now whether the package builds successfully. | 01:30 |
| marseillai | for me it build fine | 01:30 |
| marseillai | just this problem with wrapper. :( | 01:31 |
| TheMuso | Yep ok. I'll see how it ges built, and will be able to work things out from there. | 01:31 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Well the package doesn't build for me. | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | WHile the actual code builds, the package doesn't. | 01:35 |
| marseillai | it must tell you that dh_install can't move debian/itestserver | 01:36 |
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| TheMuso | marseillai: Yes. | 01:36 |
| marseillai | because he try to move the wrapper dut it doesn't exist anymore | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Were you packaging this in the hope you could get it into Ubuntu? | 01:36 |
| marseillai | yep | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 01:37 |
| marseillai | why ? | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: It means that I will now have a good look at the package, and leave you some comments on revu. | 01:37 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: wait it's not ready to a revu | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | And we can get it ready for hardy, when it opens. | 01:38 |
| marseillai | absolutly not | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok then, I'll work out how it needs patching, and then you can let us know when it is ready to review. | 01:38 |
| marseillai | i don't want to loose your time | 01:38 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: in fact for the moment my problem is with this wrapper... :s | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: No its fine | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: As I said, I think its better to correct the source somehow. | 01:39 |
| marseillai | it's far from my possibility | 01:39 |
| marseillai | but i'll try | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: As I said, i am happy to help you do that. | 01:40 |
| marseillai | in all the code all the path are hardcoded | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok. Then we need to change that, and send a patch to the upstream developers. | 01:42 |
| marseillai | it's something i absolutly don't know | 01:44 |
| marseillai | but i'm ok to learn | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Thats ok. | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | Great. | 01:44 |
| marseillai | and even happy to learn | 01:44 |
| marseillai | i'm currently looking at main_window.ui and see this : <iconset resource="resources.qrc" >:/images/images/folder_red.png</iconset> | 01:45 |
| porthose | I am working on a package and I noticed that some of it's components are released under PHP License Version 3.01 and Creative Commons Attribute-Share Alike 2.0 Generic would these licenses keep this package out of Ubuntu? | 01:47 |
| pwnguin | currently i think so =/ | 01:47 |
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| Fujitsu | CC BY-SA is OK, I think. And I presume the PHP one is. | 01:49 |
| pwnguin | i wonder if they "mix" | 01:50 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: do you see the reason why my wrapper is deleted because it disturb me. | 01:54 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: No, I haven't worked that out yet, as it is not the best solution. | 01:55 |
| marseillai | oki | 01:55 |
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| TheMuso | marseillai: WHat made you think the iTestServer and iTestClient binaries should go into usr/share? | 02:07 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: how could they know where are the iconset? | 02:08 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: As far as I have determined, the icons actually get built into the binary themselves. | 02:09 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: The best way to test that, is to build the binaries by hand, copy them somewhere else outside the source directory, and attempt to run them. | 02:09 |
| marseillai | it's what i've just do and you are right | 02:10 |
| marseillai | i test with langage | 02:10 |
| TheMuso | ok | 02:10 |
| marseillai | so great | 02:11 |
| marseillai | the apps doesn't need anything! :) | 02:11 |
| marseillai | thanks TheMuso | 02:11 |
| TheMuso | So, you can install the binaries into /usr/bin, and no wrapper is needed. | 02:11 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: You're welcome. | 02:11 |
| marseillai | now i'll polish it and send it to revu for hardy! :) | 02:13 |
| marseillai | certainly tomorow | 02:13 |
| TheMuso | Ok great. | 02:14 |
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| ScottK | Fujitsu: Yes. It was when I was whining about the new package summary pages | 02:37 |
| jdong | uh oh it's starting again? | 02:38 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, right. | 02:38 |
| ScottK | jdong: What? | 02:39 |
| jdong | just messing with you, scott :) | 02:40 |
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| zul | evening | 02:42 |
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| zul | !uvf | 02:56 |
| ubotu | uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 | 02:56 |
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| ScottK | zul: Just follow Nancy Reagan's advice. | 03:03 |
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| zul | erp? | 03:03 |
| pwnguin | "nobody can make you feel bad without your permission?" | 03:03 |
| ScottK | zul: Just say no. | 03:04 |
| zul | oh | 03:04 |
| ScottK | For UVF in this case. | 03:05 |
| zul | well that comes next | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | oh, I tested pylint from sid, with its dependencies updated, it works well | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | my code that I tested it on doesn't work so well :) | 03:06 |
| ScottK | Fujitsu: More specifically not showing the different pockets on the package page and in particular showing the backports version in preference to the release version if it was newer. | 03:06 |
| ScottK | And then they said ... | 03:07 |
| pwnguin | i wonder if source packages should include test cases =/ | 03:07 |
| ScottK | "We didn't think about backports." | 03:07 |
| ScottK | That's when I opinined that more design and less execution might be helpful. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | pwnguin: Perl ones often do. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | zul: Great comment on the UVFe! | 03:08 |
| zul | ScottK: thanks | 03:09 |
| ScottK | ajmitch: As long as it's depends don't have a lot of rdepends, I'd go for pylint. | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | ok | 03:09 |
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| pwnguin | ok, ive filed a bug, attached a debdiff, and subscribed ubuntu-motu-sponsors; is it a matter of waiting now? | 03:15 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: Yes. | 03:15 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: Whats the bug? | 03:16 |
| TheMuso | I might have a look in a sec. | 03:16 |
| pwnguin | 141015 | 03:16 |
| TheMuso | bug 141015 | 03:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 141015 in ubuntu-dev-tools "Correctly pass path to dch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141015 | 03:16 |
| pwnguin | err no | 03:16 |
| pwnguin | bug 140890 | 03:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140890 in cwiid "wminput should provide udev rule" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140890 | 03:16 |
| pwnguin | im not very familiar with udev though, so there's probably a better way to handle it | 03:18 |
| TheMuso | Ok I'll ook in a bit. | 03:18 |
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| Fujitsu | No LP in 15 minutes for an hour, again. | 03:44 |
| TheMuso | great. | 03:44 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 03:46 |
| Fujitsu | I wonder if it might be better for them to test changes on a copy of the production DB beforehand. | 03:46 |
| TheMuso | Likewise. | 03:47 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: I suggest you use dh_installudev instead. | 03:48 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: And you forgot to change the maintainer. | 03:51 |
| TheMuso | If I were cjwatson right now, I'd be fuming. He likely is already. | 03:54 |
| ScottK | It sounds like he is. | 03:56 |
| pwnguin | about lp or forgetting to installudev? | 04:00 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: I suggest you use the dh_installudev command to install the udev rules file. You also forgot to change the maintainer to Ubuntu MOTU Developers, and set the XSBC-Original-Maintainer. | 04:02 |
| pwnguin | TheMuso: i didnt touch the maintainer and the package came from ubuntu | 04:04 |
| pwnguin | i thought that should have been changed already, but ill look into it | 04:04 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: The package is from Debian, but you are making an Ubuntu modification. so we need to indicate that we main it, since we have made a change. | 04:05 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 04:05 |
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| pochu | good night! | 04:31 |
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| jdong | ubotu: hey hon, how are you doing? | 05:04 |
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| pwnguin | is there a script to automatically alter the maintainters field for MOTU? | 05:37 |
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| RAOF | pwnguin: Yes. In ubuntu-dev-tools, X I believe. | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Called something useful like 'update-maintainer' | 05:39 |
| pwnguin | heh | 05:40 |
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| pwnguin | well, there's a wiki about it that mentioned a to-be-named-script | 05:41 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: If you are running gutsy, install ubuntu-dev-tools | 05:41 |
| pwnguin | i did | 05:41 |
| pwnguin | its there and done | 05:41 |
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| nixternal | yes, update-maintainer is nice | 05:43 |
| nixternal | saves the typing for us lazy people | 05:43 |
| pwnguin | its not particularly clear in the manpage -- does dh_installudev change the name to .rules or not? | 05:44 |
| pwnguin | nixternal: also for the typo prone | 05:44 |
| nixternal | and that as well, which is me most definitely | 05:44 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: This is how I did it for another package I work on: dh_installudev --priority=80 | 05:46 |
| TheMuso | changing priority to whatever you need. | 05:46 |
| pwnguin | well, it mentions package.udev | 05:46 |
| pwnguin | in the manpage | 05:47 |
| TheMuso | Yes, so you put the file in debian and name it packagename.udev | 05:47 |
| pwnguin | what i wasnt clear on is whether it changes the filename or not | 05:47 |
| TheMuso | Yes it does. | 05:48 |
| pwnguin | TheMuso: thanks. | 05:48 |
| pwnguin | hmm. some of these rules have no priority | 05:49 |
| RAOF | Thinking back to the stuff I did with KVM, wasn't there a bug on the BTS saying essentially "please don't use dh_installudev"? | 05:50 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: There was? | 05:50 |
| pwnguin | cute | 05:51 |
| pwnguin | this is gonna get nightmare-ish when i work on thinkfinger | 05:51 |
| pwnguin | pam and udev =/ | 05:52 |
| pwnguin | and their mailing list features patches to gnome-screensvaer | 05:52 |
| RAOF | Debian bug #414331 | 05:52 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 414331 in kvm "must not install udev rules files" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/414331 | 05:52 |
| RAOF | "dh_installudev is badly broken and must not be used" :( | 05:54 |
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| TheMuso | pwnguin: Are the udev rules run rules? | 05:55 |
| pwnguin | nope | 05:55 |
| pwnguin | fun | 05:55 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Interesting. I do know for a fact that the Ubuntu debhelper has changes made to installudev | 05:56 |
| RAOF | Ok, maybe it doesn't apply to us then. | 05:56 |
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| TheMuso | Well I've used it in a package with no problems. | 05:56 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: And that was from March. Surely its been fixed since then. | 05:56 |
| pwnguin | maybe the dude's just wrong? | 05:57 |
| TheMuso | I can understand what they are saying re adding all rules to udev if they aren't run rules. | 05:57 |
| pwnguin | i cant | 05:58 |
| pwnguin | how's that even work? | 05:59 |
| pwnguin | udev installs every possible rule? | 05:59 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: Basically, if the rules are for creating device nodes/setting permissions for devices, udev should have them as part of its package, so that they are there from the get go. If a package only needs udev rules to run a particular program if a device is present, then a package is welcome to make a rules file, as it is the only one that needs the rules. | 05:59 |
| pwnguin | wouldn't that result in a ton of udev rules? | 06:00 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: Where abouts? | 06:01 |
| pwnguin | /etc/udev/rules.d/ seems like it would get pretty full | 06:01 |
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| TheMuso | Likely so, but thats not a problem. | 06:02 |
| TheMuso | And permissions/device creation rules would be put into specific files where all that stuff goes anyway. | 06:02 |
| TheMuso | Individual package rules would just go in their own package rules file. | 06:02 |
| pwnguin | well, getting udev changed during a beta freeze IS a problem =/ | 06:02 |
| TheMuso | The amount of files wouldn't be a problem. | 06:02 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: Let me have a look at the rules. | 06:03 |
| pwnguin | its marginally stupid | 06:03 |
| pwnguin | but straight from the manpage | 06:03 |
| pwnguin | i may have a second look at fuse | 06:03 |
| TheMuso | Actually, such a rule shouldn't really go in this package. | 06:03 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, did you take care of ubuntu studio's tasks setup? | 06:04 |
| TheMuso | superm1: No. Why? | 06:04 |
| TheMuso | superm1: We had help from Colin with getting seeds ready. Canonical are doing disks for us. | 06:04 |
| superm1 | well i noticed that they are available in synaptic | 06:04 |
| superm1 | and i knew you were working with a lot of their packages | 06:04 |
| TheMuso | superm1: As I said, Colin tweaked seeds for CD creation. | 06:05 |
| superm1 | so i was wondering what it took to make a task. okay i'll poke colin after beta :) | 06:05 |
| TheMuso | superm1: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.gutsy if you want to have a look. | 06:06 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, yeah i saw that, but i didn't make the connection as to how they show up as available tasks elsewhere | 06:06 |
| TheMuso | pwnguin: After beta, I'd talk to keybuk about udev, and permission for uinput. There might be a good reason why they are how they are. | 06:06 |
| pwnguin | grat | 06:07 |
| pwnguin | great | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | superm1: there is stuff at the top of the seed files with all that stuff. | 06:07 |
| TheMuso | superm1: And theres likely a connection behind the scenes to attach that to the archive. | 06:07 |
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| superm1 | right, but i mean which packages are in the archive that actually read that content | 06:07 |
| superm1 | exactly, thats the part i'm missing :) | 06:07 |
| pwnguin | TheMuso: in that case, i'll have to think about why that rule breaks my fingerprint scanner (which also uses udev) | 06:08 |
| pwnguin | err | 06:08 |
| pwnguin | uses udev and uinput | 06:08 |
| TheMuso | right | 06:08 |
| bddebian | OK damnit, I want to go to bed but this syncpackage issue is pissing me off. I can build packages, sign packages, etc with no problems. But running pitti's syncpackage script is not finding my key??? | 06:09 |
| TheMuso | bddebian: Is the requestsync script you are using from the ubuntu-dev-tools package? | 06:09 |
| bddebian | Dunno, I pulling it from people.u.c/ | 06:10 |
| bddebian | ~pitti/scripts/ | 06:10 |
| TheMuso | bddebian: Well install ubuntu-dev-tools, and try the requestsync script from that. | 06:10 |
| TheMuso | as that is likely much more up to date. | 06:10 |
| bddebian | Hrm, this is what pochu asked me to use | 06:11 |
| bddebian | What's weird is that it picks up "Barry deFreese" but <> for the e-mail, even though I have DEBSIGN_KEYID set | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: set DEBEMAIL | 06:15 |
| bddebian | Same bullshit. gpg: Skipped "Barry deFreese <>": secret key not available | 06:16 |
| bddebian | #!@$%@$^ | 06:17 |
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| StevenK | bddebian: Does your key have a comment on it? | 06:37 |
| StevenK | Does gpg --list-keys match exactly what's in the changelog? | 06:38 |
| bddebian | I don't know what's in the changelog, it's some damn script. Which is exactly why I never use them :-) | 06:38 |
| pwnguin | is it just me, or does maximize window in desktop effects count the window shadow? | 06:39 |
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| bddebian | Bah screw it, I'm going to bed. Thanks anyway TheMuso, Hobbsee, StevenK | 06:43 |
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| LaserJock | I'm looking for people who maintain a 3rd party repo/PPA | 08:24 |
| tonyyarusso | LaserJock: I have a PPA, not that it really needs (or accomodates) maintenance at this point - don't we all pretty much now? | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm trying to figure out how people are handling reverse dependencies | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | I'm wanting to maintain some backports | 08:29 |
| tonyyarusso | can you be more specific? | 08:29 |
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| LaserJock | well, I want to backport the newest gchemutils | 08:30 |
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| LaserJock | but if I take care of the reverse dependencies all the way down it get like 15 packages | 08:31 |
| tonyyarusso | As I understand it, that's pretty much how the backporting life goes. | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | right, I'm just wondering how much effort people go to | 08:32 |
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| tonyyarusso | depends how much you want the package ;) | 08:33 |
| tonyyarusso | The backports team will do it as long as it doesn't break stuff, etc | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | well, the backports team isn't going to take these packages | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | they haven't even made it to gutsy | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | and a few are libraries | 08:34 |
| LaserJock | hence why I'm looking at using a PPA | 08:34 |
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| tonyyarusso | set aside a few hours, bundle up some good snacks, and hack away? | 08:36 |
| LaserJock | few days I'm guessing :/ | 08:40 |
| tonyyarusso | :( | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | especially for dapper | 08:41 |
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| LaserJock | I especially don't look forward to rebuilding gnumeric | 08:44 |
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| jussi01 | good morning all. Could someone remind me of the naming convention for ppa packages? | 08:51 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: I didn't think we'd agreed on one yet...could be wrong | 08:53 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: oh, ok. I remember there being talk about it | 08:53 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: Yeah. We _should_, not sure if we have yet. | 08:54 |
| jussi01 | :) | 08:54 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm thinking package-0.5.4-1ubuntu2~ppa7.04-3, if you can have multiple dashes | 08:55 |
| tonyyarusso | otherwise, ~7.04ppa3 | 08:55 |
| YokoZar_ | ScottK: ping | 08:56 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: I had a feeling it was jus ~ppa## | 08:57 |
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| tonyyarusso | jussi01: That's common, but provides no means for building for more than one release in the same PPA | 08:57 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: thats true | 08:58 |
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| minghua | Yay for auto rebuild test! | 09:14 |
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| Fujitsu | minghua: Only main, isn't it? | 09:19 |
| minghua | Fujitsu: Seems so. | 09:20 |
| Fujitsu | :( | 09:20 |
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| === minghua fears there would be too many FTBFS bugs to fix in time anyway if we also do auto build test on universe. | ||
| TheMuso | Universe would take too long. | 09:23 |
| Fujitsu | Well, there is a list, thanks to lucas. | 09:23 |
| minghua | Did lucas use auotpkgtest or just pbuilder? | 09:23 |
| Fujitsu | pbuilder or sbuild with rebuildd. | 09:24 |
| minghua | all the three FTBFS bugs found by Ian's autopkgtest doesn't appear in pbuilder. | 09:24 |
| minghua | (some trivial problem that requires clean to be run before build) | 09:24 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ - TOP 10 Uploaders/Packages | New Packages Freeze in effect | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by RAOF at Tue Sep 18 08:26:36 2007 | ||
| (marseillai/#ubuntu-motu) TheMuso: i've send a complete version of itest to revu if you want to look at it : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=280 | 10:19 | |
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| TheMuso | marseillai: I will in a while. | 10:24 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: oki thanks | 10:25 |
| marseillai | TheMuso: for yesterday, the wrapper deleted | 10:25 |
| marseillai | it was because his name was the same than the .deb package | 10:25 |
| TheMuso | marseillai: Ok. | 10:26 |
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| asisak | Good mornign | 10:28 |
| TheMuso | Hey asisak | 10:32 |
| asisak | hey thekorn | 10:32 |
| asisak | TheMuso even | 10:32 |
| TheMuso | heh | 10:32 |
| geser | Hi asisak | 10:33 |
| asisak | Hey geser | 10:33 |
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