[12:47] And you are saying it gets deleted when you run debuild? What arguments are you passing to debuild? [12:48] debuild -S -sa [12:48] Have you checked debian/rules to see if it does anything that would cause the file to be deleted? [12:49] i can show it to you [12:49] but i've don't see anything [12:49] Ok. When you say its deleted, did you look in the debian directory after you ran the debuild command? [12:50] TheMuso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38176/ [12:50] yes i've look into debian dir after debuild [12:50] ok [12:50] the files are really deleted [12:51] TheMuso, with your tip my pbuilder log is working ;-) Thanks! [12:51] marseillai: Ok, there certainly is nothing there that should cause the file to be deleted. [12:51] mruiz: You're welcome. [12:52] TheMuso: you have other idea ?? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] marseillai: Not without seeing your wrapper script, the package you are working on, and know ing the reason why you are creating a wrapper script in the first place. [12:53] TheMuso: if i upload to revu coulp you take a look on that problem ? [12:56] marseillai: Certainly. [12:57] in fact i just think that if i upload to revu the wrapper will not be there [12:57] so this is my wrapper : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38177/ [12:58] marseillai: theres nothing there [12:58] sorry, yes there is [12:58] ah [12:58] what ? [12:59] marseillai: Why are you running something from /usr/share? /usr/share should not have any binaries in it. === jebivjetar [n=chatzill@12-214-39-49.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] i must set binaries and lib in the same directory for this apps TheMuso it's the reason i'm using the wrapper. i want install this wrapper in usr/bin [01:00] marseillai: In that case, I would contact the upstream author of the package, and demand they change it. That is a very bad way of doing things. [01:00] * The root meaning of the word kolo is a wheel or circle, and it is the word used all over Southern Slav lands for the national dance in which both men and women join, taking hold of hands; the number of dancers increasing and the circle extending as the dance proceeds. Even in the remotest hamlets the dancing of the kolo is the best-loved form of recreation. Groups of village children,... [01:00] Our God hath poured His wrath upon the Serbs, [01:00] For deadly sins withdrawn His favour from us: [01:00] Our Rulers trampled underfoot all law, [01:00] With bloody hatred fought each other down. [01:00] Tore from fraternal brows the living eyes: [01:00] If they won't, it needs to be patched. [01:00] Authority and Law they cast aside, [01:00] Instead chose folly as their rule and guide! [01:00] And those who served our kings became untrue, [01:00] Crimson they bathed themselves in kingly blood! [01:00] Our noblemen - Gods curse be on their souls - [01:00] Did tear and rend the Kingdom into pieces, [01:00] And wasted wantonly our people's power. [01:01] The Serbian magnates - may their name rot out! - [01:01] !ops [01:01] Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, or fbond [01:01] They scatterd broadcast Discords evil seed, [01:01] And poisoned thus the life-springs of our race. [01:01] Our Serbian chiefs, most miserable cowards, [01:01] The Serbian stock did heartlessly betray. [01:01] Accursed be Kossvos Evening Meal; [01:01] Far better had it been if from that hour [01:01] Our magnates all had disappeard for aye! [01:01] If only Milosh still remaind unto us, [01:01] jebivjetar: Stop. [01:01] With his two valiant Pbratims, [01:01] Then Serb would be with Serb to-day. [01:01] Thou Brankovitch, of stock despicable, [01:01] Should one serve so his Fatherland, [01:01] Thus much is Honesty esteemd? [01:01] Who, Milosh, would not envy thee? [01:01] A victim thou to thine own truth and worth! [01:01] All-puissant spirit in the things of War; [01:01] A thunder mighty which did shatter thrones! [01:01] The deeds thy knightly soul hath wrought. [01:01] Outshine all lustre of the Past, - [01:01] The fame of Sparta and of mighty Rome! [01:01] Their valiant and heroic feats [01:01] Are all surpassd by thy proud arm. [01:01] Where is Leonidas. where Scaevola, [01:01] When Obilitch doth enter the arena? [01:01] That arm of thine with but one only stroke [01:01] Brought down a throne and made all Hell to quake! [01:01] Yet Milosh fell, most marvellous of knights, [01:01] A victim fell unto the world's great Scourge. [01:01] In proud repose the puissant Leader lies: [01:02] There from his veins did spurt his noble blood, [01:02] Where he so proudly trod a while before, [01:02] His breast possessd by one sole dread intent, [01:02] As he did press his way through Asias hordes, [01:02] He swallowd them with his great eyes of fire [01:02] Where he so proudly trod a while before. [01:02] Seeking his hallowd tomb and life immortal, [01:02] TheMuso: it's too much complicated for me to make this sort of patch [01:02] Scorning alike the failures of small men, [01:02] And all that false and senseless company. [01:02] Our God hath pourd His wrath upon the Serbs! [01:02] A seven-headed monster He sent forth [01:02] To plague and extirpate the Serbian Name, [01:02] marseillai: Ok upload to revu, and I'll have a look. [01:02] Be they betrayers or be they betrayd. === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] On falling rums of a realm heroic [01:02] Did Milosh shine with firm and constant justice; [01:02] Crowned be too, with an undying glory, [01:02] Those pbratims who steadfast were to Milosh; [01:02] LjL: You don't have powers here :( [01:02] Not less the lovely Jugovitch bouquet! [01:02] So parsed the Serbian Cap and Name away: [01:02] Fujitsu: afraid so [01:02] Warrior lions gave place to ploughmen, [01:02] While selfish poltroons took Mohammed's creed, - [01:02] Their Serbian milk shall ever bring them plague! [01:02] All those who scaped from death by Moslem sword, === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o LjL] by ChanServ [01:02] All those who still held true to Christian faith, [01:02] Who with abhorrence thought of bonds and chains, [01:02] All such as these took flight to mountains grey, === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b *!*@12-214-39-49.client.mchsi.com] by LjL === jebivjetar [n=chatzill@12-214-39-49.client.mchsi.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [requested] [01:02] well it seems i do === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o LjL] by LjL [01:03] thanks LjL [01:03] Hm, you're not on the access list. [01:03] Thanks. [01:03] indeed, it's a bit weird === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o LjL] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o LjL] by LjL [01:03] *shrug* [01:04] Reminds me of all that nonsense spam that circulates via email. [01:04] Heh [01:04] spam filters for irc? [01:05] So does anyone know how I get access to the ubuntu-devel ml? [01:05] Without having all mails get stuck in the moderation queue [01:05] Amaranth: Subscribe and some magive LP foo will take care of it. === LjL-Temp [n=ljl@81-208-36-87.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] magive/magic [01:05] ScottK: I don't think it's magical at the moment. [01:05] I am subscribed [01:06] Not while LP is down for maintenance, no. [01:06] Have been for a _long_ time === LjL-Temp is now known as TestLjL [01:06] I'll just try a mail and see what happens [01:06] Fujitsu: IIRC I didn't have to do anything to have voice on the list. [01:06] Hm, OK. [01:06] Well, they do have the mailman guy, IIRC, so it might be automatic. [01:06] Well I'm old so I forget stuff too. [01:07] doesn't it get checked against the registered emails for the devs in LP? [01:07] Then I'd better wait for LP to come back :) [01:07] Of course it may have been done before it went away. As you will. [01:08] Amaranth: is the e-mail which you use for writing to the ml registered in LP? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o TestLjL] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o LjL] by TestLjL [01:08] Amaranth: congrats! [01:08] geser: yeah [01:08] TheMuso: thanks === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu wonders a couple of things. 1) Why don't they give us more than 15 minutes warning. 2) Why do they need to have two hours of updates within 24 hours. [01:09] Fujitsu: 1.1.9 broke something? [01:09] Closing half the bugs got it tired. [01:09] hahaha [01:09] i got flooded === ScottK too. [01:09] Amaranth: Shouldn't take an hour to cherrypick, really. === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu got about 150. [01:10] i wouldnt be surpised if gmail decided to mark it as spam [01:10] i bet they're doing the closing before bringing it back on, was probably too much email [01:10] I was going to go through them, but they took it down :( [01:10] Amaranth: Haha. === bmm [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] Sending close notices to multiple people for thousands of bugs all in a few minutes...ouch [01:11] And we're going to get a whole lot of unclosing emails next week, when they run the maintenance to revert some of the changes that shouldn't have been made. [01:11] oh fun [01:11] Really annoying that it closed bugs that were marked as a dupe of another bug [01:11] Amaranth: That's one of the corner cases to be cherrypicked next week, AFAIK. [01:11] TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=279 sorry for the delay revu was slow to refresh [01:12] Marking it as a dupe should have closed it, now I know why the desktop team always marks bugs as invalid before [01:12] Along with not killing things if there are upstream tasks, if they're milestoned, etc. [01:12] marseillai: Ok thanks, I will have a look very shortly. [01:12] brb [01:12] thanks === pwnguin spent last night reading about open source prediction markets [01:12] i've yet to figure out why libertarians love open source [01:12] but i'll take their software all the same [01:13] Of course I got stony glares in #launchpad this morning when I said I thought they needed to do a better job of thinking through new features BEFORE implementation. [01:13] Urgh. [01:13] im thinking debian could use a prediction market or two to determine release dates ;) [01:15] night * [01:16] ScottK: And this was before the great janitor session of 3 hours ago? === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluefox_ [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] marseillai: Have you packaged this from scratch? [01:29] yes [01:29] euh [01:29] what do you call from scratch ? [01:29] marseillai: Why do you have several debian directories, debian-tmp, and debian-cdbs? [01:29] arf [01:29] it was some try [01:29] ok [01:29] i've remove debiantemp and debiancdbs [01:30] I am checking now whether the package builds successfully. [01:30] for me it build fine [01:31] just this problem with wrapper. :( [01:31] Yep ok. I'll see how it ges built, and will be able to work things out from there. [01:35] marseillai: Well the package doesn't build for me. [01:35] WHile the actual code builds, the package doesn't. [01:36] it must tell you that dh_install can't move debian/itestserver === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] marseillai: Yes. [01:36] because he try to move the wrapper dut it doesn't exist anymore [01:36] marseillai: Were you packaging this in the hope you could get it into Ubuntu? [01:36] yep [01:37] Ok. [01:37] why ? [01:37] marseillai: It means that I will now have a good look at the package, and leave you some comments on revu. [01:38] TheMuso: wait it's not ready to a revu [01:38] And we can get it ready for hardy, when it opens. [01:38] absolutly not [01:38] marseillai: Ok then, I'll work out how it needs patching, and then you can let us know when it is ready to review. [01:38] i don't want to loose your time [01:39] TheMuso: in fact for the moment my problem is with this wrapper... :s [01:39] marseillai: No its fine [01:39] marseillai: As I said, I think its better to correct the source somehow. [01:39] it's far from my possibility [01:39] but i'll try [01:40] marseillai: As I said, i am happy to help you do that. [01:42] in all the code all the path are hardcoded [01:42] marseillai: Ok. Then we need to change that, and send a patch to the upstream developers. [01:44] it's something i absolutly don't know [01:44] but i'm ok to learn [01:44] marseillai: Thats ok. [01:44] Great. [01:44] and even happy to learn [01:45] i'm currently looking at main_window.ui and see this : :/images/images/folder_red.png [01:47] I am working on a package and I noticed that some of it's components are released under PHP License Version 3.01 and Creative Commons Attribute-Share Alike 2.0 Generic would these licenses keep this package out of Ubuntu? [01:47] currently i think so =/ === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] CC BY-SA is OK, I think. And I presume the PHP one is. [01:50] i wonder if they "mix" [01:54] TheMuso: do you see the reason why my wrapper is deleted because it disturb me. [01:55] marseillai: No, I haven't worked that out yet, as it is not the best solution. [01:55] oki === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-fd359f79b5cca280] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp121-44-89-116.lns10.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] marseillai: WHat made you think the iTestServer and iTestClient binaries should go into usr/share? [02:08] TheMuso: how could they know where are the iconset? [02:09] marseillai: As far as I have determined, the icons actually get built into the binary themselves. [02:09] marseillai: The best way to test that, is to build the binaries by hand, copy them somewhere else outside the source directory, and attempt to run them. [02:10] it's what i've just do and you are right [02:10] i test with langage [02:10] ok [02:11] so great [02:11] the apps doesn't need anything! :) [02:11] thanks TheMuso [02:11] So, you can install the binaries into /usr/bin, and no wrapper is needed. [02:11] marseillai: You're welcome. [02:13] now i'll polish it and send it to revu for hardy! :) [02:13] certainly tomorow [02:14] Ok great. === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] Fujitsu: Yes. It was when I was whining about the new package summary pages [02:38] uh oh it's starting again? [02:38] Oh, right. [02:39] jdong: What? [02:40] just messing with you, scott :) === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Igorot [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] evening === freeflyi2g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [i=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === J-Unit [n=jdong@SIMMONS-THREE-SIXTY-FIVE.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] !uvf [02:56] uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] zul: Just follow Nancy Reagan's advice. === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] erp? [03:03] "nobody can make you feel bad without your permission?" [03:04] zul: Just say no. [03:04] oh [03:05] For UVF in this case. [03:05] well that comes next [03:06] oh, I tested pylint from sid, with its dependencies updated, it works well [03:06] my code that I tested it on doesn't work so well :) [03:06] Fujitsu: More specifically not showing the different pockets on the package page and in particular showing the backports version in preference to the release version if it was newer. [03:07] And then they said ... [03:07] i wonder if source packages should include test cases =/ [03:07] "We didn't think about backports." [03:07] That's when I opinined that more design and less execution might be helpful. [03:07] pwnguin: Perl ones often do. [03:08] zul: Great comment on the UVFe! [03:09] ScottK: thanks [03:09] ajmitch: As long as it's depends don't have a lot of rdepends, I'd go for pylint. [03:09] ok === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:15] ok, ive filed a bug, attached a debdiff, and subscribed ubuntu-motu-sponsors; is it a matter of waiting now? [03:15] pwnguin: Yes. [03:16] pwnguin: Whats the bug? [03:16] I might have a look in a sec. [03:16] 141015 [03:16] bug 141015 [03:16] Launchpad bug 141015 in ubuntu-dev-tools "Correctly pass path to dch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141015 [03:16] err no [03:16] bug 140890 [03:16] Launchpad bug 140890 in cwiid "wminput should provide udev rule" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140890 [03:18] im not very familiar with udev though, so there's probably a better way to handle it [03:18] Ok I'll ook in a bit. === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmm_ [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger_ [n=me@N892P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] No LP in 15 minutes for an hour, again. [03:44] great. [03:46] Yep. [03:46] I wonder if it might be better for them to test changes on a copy of the production DB beforehand. [03:47] Likewise. [03:48] pwnguin: I suggest you use dh_installudev instead. [03:51] pwnguin: And you forgot to change the maintainer. [03:54] If I were cjwatson right now, I'd be fuming. He likely is already. [03:56] It sounds like he is. [04:00] about lp or forgetting to installudev? [04:02] pwnguin: I suggest you use the dh_installudev command to install the udev rules file. You also forgot to change the maintainer to Ubuntu MOTU Developers, and set the XSBC-Original-Maintainer. [04:04] TheMuso: i didnt touch the maintainer and the package came from ubuntu [04:04] i thought that should have been changed already, but ill look into it [04:05] pwnguin: The package is from Debian, but you are making an Ubuntu modification. so we need to indicate that we main it, since we have made a change. [04:05] pwnguin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField === minghua wonders if the LP new rollout will fix the "mark old duplicated bug invalid" annoyance. === jdong [n=dizzle@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] good night! === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] ubotu: hey hon, how are you doing? === No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-032-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=dizzle@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-204-210-227-26.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] is there a script to automatically alter the maintainters field for MOTU? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] pwnguin: Yes. In ubuntu-dev-tools, X I believe. [05:39] Called something useful like 'update-maintainer' [05:40] heh === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] well, there's a wiki about it that mentioned a to-be-named-script [05:41] pwnguin: If you are running gutsy, install ubuntu-dev-tools [05:41] i did [05:41] its there and done === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] yes, update-maintainer is nice [05:43] saves the typing for us lazy people [05:44] its not particularly clear in the manpage -- does dh_installudev change the name to .rules or not? [05:44] nixternal: also for the typo prone [05:44] and that as well, which is me most definitely [05:46] pwnguin: This is how I did it for another package I work on: dh_installudev --priority=80 [05:46] changing priority to whatever you need. [05:46] well, it mentions package.udev [05:47] in the manpage [05:47] Yes, so you put the file in debian and name it packagename.udev [05:47] what i wasnt clear on is whether it changes the filename or not [05:48] Yes it does. [05:48] TheMuso: thanks. [05:49] hmm. some of these rules have no priority [05:50] Thinking back to the stuff I did with KVM, wasn't there a bug on the BTS saying essentially "please don't use dh_installudev"? [05:50] RAOF: There was? [05:51] cute [05:51] this is gonna get nightmare-ish when i work on thinkfinger [05:52] pam and udev =/ [05:52] and their mailing list features patches to gnome-screensvaer [05:52] Debian bug #414331 [05:52] Debian bug 414331 in kvm "must not install udev rules files" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/414331 [05:54] "dh_installudev is badly broken and must not be used" :( === amachu [n=amachu@202.71.146.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] pwnguin: Are the udev rules run rules? [05:55] nope [05:55] fun [05:56] RAOF: Interesting. I do know for a fact that the Ubuntu debhelper has changes made to installudev [05:56] Ok, maybe it doesn't apply to us then. === RAOF crosses his fingers. [05:56] Well I've used it in a package with no problems. [05:56] RAOF: And that was from March. Surely its been fixed since then. [05:57] maybe the dude's just wrong? [05:57] I can understand what they are saying re adding all rules to udev if they aren't run rules. [05:58] i cant [05:59] how's that even work? [05:59] udev installs every possible rule? [05:59] pwnguin: Basically, if the rules are for creating device nodes/setting permissions for devices, udev should have them as part of its package, so that they are there from the get go. If a package only needs udev rules to run a particular program if a device is present, then a package is welcome to make a rules file, as it is the only one that needs the rules. [06:00] wouldn't that result in a ton of udev rules? [06:01] pwnguin: Where abouts? [06:01] /etc/udev/rules.d/ seems like it would get pretty full === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] Likely so, but thats not a problem. [06:02] And permissions/device creation rules would be put into specific files where all that stuff goes anyway. [06:02] Individual package rules would just go in their own package rules file. [06:02] well, getting udev changed during a beta freeze IS a problem =/ [06:02] The amount of files wouldn't be a problem. [06:03] pwnguin: Let me have a look at the rules. [06:03] its marginally stupid [06:03] but straight from the manpage [06:03] i may have a second look at fuse [06:03] Actually, such a rule shouldn't really go in this package. [06:04] TheMuso, did you take care of ubuntu studio's tasks setup? [06:04] superm1: No. Why? [06:04] superm1: We had help from Colin with getting seeds ready. Canonical are doing disks for us. [06:04] well i noticed that they are available in synaptic [06:04] and i knew you were working with a lot of their packages [06:05] superm1: As I said, Colin tweaked seeds for CD creation. [06:05] so i was wondering what it took to make a task. okay i'll poke colin after beta :) [06:06] superm1: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.gutsy if you want to have a look. [06:06] TheMuso, yeah i saw that, but i didn't make the connection as to how they show up as available tasks elsewhere [06:06] pwnguin: After beta, I'd talk to keybuk about udev, and permission for uinput. There might be a good reason why they are how they are. [06:07] grat [06:07] great [06:07] superm1: there is stuff at the top of the seed files with all that stuff. [06:07] superm1: And theres likely a connection behind the scenes to attach that to the archive. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] right, but i mean which packages are in the archive that actually read that content [06:07] exactly, thats the part i'm missing :) [06:08] TheMuso: in that case, i'll have to think about why that rule breaks my fingerprint scanner (which also uses udev) [06:08] err [06:08] uses udev and uinput [06:08] right [06:09] OK damnit, I want to go to bed but this syncpackage issue is pissing me off. I can build packages, sign packages, etc with no problems. But running pitti's syncpackage script is not finding my key??? [06:09] bddebian: Is the requestsync script you are using from the ubuntu-dev-tools package? [06:10] Dunno, I pulling it from people.u.c/ [06:10] ~pitti/scripts/ [06:10] bddebian: Well install ubuntu-dev-tools, and try the requestsync script from that. [06:10] as that is likely much more up to date. [06:11] Hrm, this is what pochu asked me to use [06:13] What's weird is that it picks up "Barry deFreese" but <> for the e-mail, even though I have DEBSIGN_KEYID set [06:15] bddebian: set DEBEMAIL [06:16] Same bullshit. gpg: Skipped "Barry deFreese <>": secret key not available [06:17] #!@$%@$^ === Kabyl [n=XSource@41.201.236.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] bddebian: Does your key have a comment on it? [06:38] Does gpg --list-keys match exactly what's in the changelog? [06:38] I don't know what's in the changelog, it's some damn script. Which is exactly why I never use them :-) [06:39] is it just me, or does maximize window in desktop effects count the window shadow? === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] Bah screw it, I'm going to bed. Thanks anyway TheMuso, Hobbsee, StevenK === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Igorot [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-760637c600e86266] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === homeskillit_ [n=homeskil@adsl-75-15-71-52.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] I'm looking for people who maintain a 3rd party repo/PPA [08:28] LaserJock: I have a PPA, not that it really needs (or accomodates) maintenance at this point - don't we all pretty much now? [08:29] well, I'm trying to figure out how people are handling reverse dependencies [08:29] I'm wanting to maintain some backports [08:29] can you be more specific? === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] well, I want to backport the newest gchemutils === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] but if I take care of the reverse dependencies all the way down it get like 15 packages [08:31] As I understand it, that's pretty much how the backporting life goes. [08:32] right, I'm just wondering how much effort people go to === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] depends how much you want the package ;) [08:33] The backports team will do it as long as it doesn't break stuff, etc [08:34] well, the backports team isn't going to take these packages [08:34] they haven't even made it to gutsy [08:34] and a few are libraries [08:34] hence why I'm looking at using a PPA === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] set aside a few hours, bundle up some good snacks, and hack away? [08:40] few days I'm guessing :/ [08:40] :( [08:41] especially for dapper === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] I especially don't look forward to rebuilding gnumeric === bryce [n=bryce@c-67-169-207-142.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-032-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] good morning all. Could someone remind me of the naming convention for ppa packages? [08:53] jussi01: I didn't think we'd agreed on one yet...could be wrong [08:53] tonyyarusso: oh, ok. I remember there being talk about it [08:54] jussi01: Yeah. We _should_, not sure if we have yet. [08:54] :) [08:55] I'm thinking package-0.5.4-1ubuntu2~ppa7.04-3, if you can have multiple dashes [08:55] otherwise, ~7.04ppa3 [08:56] ScottK: ping [08:57]