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ABOMINIUSsome guide to make dbus recognize /dev/input[n]  as /dev/input/wacom, or somethingh else12:44
ScorpKingtried google?12:44
ABOMINIUSy12:44
ABOMINIUStoo trash12:45
ScorpKinglol12:45
sunilonlnis there an easy way for getting vga and s-video output working with intel 945gm integrated graphics? (i have an hp dv2000t)12:45
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ScorpKingnite everyone!12:45
ABOMINIUSbb12:46
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bobesponjahey all12:46
bobesponjais there a way to make the mouse cursor bigger?12:47
chris|6Suse a bigger cursor theme?12:47
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bobesponjachris|6S: can't find any big mouse theme12:49
dappermuissunilonln, if you find a way let me know :)12:50
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chris|6Sbobesponja: there is a package called "big-cursor"12:52
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chris|6Sbobesponja: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=Howto&pagename=X-Big-Cursor/X-Big-Cursor-3.html12:56
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cashHello maybe some body know ,where I can download MATLAB for linux ? I mean all sources except official site ))12:57
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|TroubleMaker|what does the - in the /etc/syslog.conf files mean (eg mail.* -/var/log/mail.log)12:57
bobesponjachris|6S: thanx12:57
sunilonlndappermuis, does that mean it's not supported?12:57
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sunilonlnthe docs at intellinuxgraphics.org mention support for the outputs, but i haven't been able to get any customized xorg.conf working12:58
Hamrahi all, lets wish i won't be bothering you any soon :P, just installed kubuntu, set my default boot to winxp so sisters wont mess up my linux, and downloading packages, everything is fine so far, really appreciate what you are doing here.12:58
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uga|awaycash: you should send an e-mail to support@matlab.com and ask them. sure they can help you out12:59
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cashuga|away it is joke ?? )))12:59
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ugacash: as much of a joke as your question12:59
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cashuga =)) What the stupid in my question ? ) I m never by soft .))) It is no needed)01:01
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ugacash: then install scilab or octave, or join #pirates01:01
cashk ) thnx01:02
ugathis channel is meant to be for kubuntu support, not piracy support01:02
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cashi will known that .for future01:03
newsense07i just installed beryl for fiesty and get a white screen and mouse pointer only, any suggestions?01:04
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uganewsense07: what gfx card are you using?01:05
ugaI had no trouble on my old box with an fx5200 and nvidia drivers01:05
newsense07old onboard ati01:06
ugauhm... I can't really tell about ati support01:07
newsense07is beryl gpu intensive ?01:07
newsense07older laptop01:07
ugawell, my gfx card was quite slow, and still run fine, so not that intensive, I guess01:07
ugabut it does need acceleration and big chunk of ram01:07
newsense07uga:could be it01:08
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newsense07uga:not much ram here but i figured it would work01:08
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khaije1newsense07: also on older laptops where video ram is shared it can be taxing01:08
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ugawell, when I said my gfx card was slow... I meant compared to current cards... 3 years ago it was okay ;)01:09
newsense07khaije1: should i dedicate less system memory to gpu ?01:09
uganewsense07: I don't think a white screen means lack of ram though01:09
ugarather lack of support01:09
newsense07uga: i didnt think so myself01:09
khaije1newsense07: i didn't know it's adjustable, you may want to get more if yr system doesn't have much01:09
ugaberyl needs certain support from the driver in order to work01:10
newsense07ill google my vid card and beryl, see what i get01:10
intelikeycan anyone answer me a riddle ?   why did installing *buntu-desktop make setting up the network take 39 seconds longer at boot time when,  a) none of my startup (init scripts) changed.   b) i use static ip on eth[0-2] .   c) nothing new is starting.     ???01:10
newsense07khaije1: i believe i can adjust shared mem in bios01:10
khaije1just type glxinfo :-)01:10
sven_oostenbrinkHi all, Im using kubuntu on a dell d620 laptop and I have wifi lan using ndis drivers.. Im using knetwork-manager to connect to an access point that has wep encryption, but it fails to connect and I don't know why. Could anybody assist me?01:11
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khaije1newsense07: o ok, that makes sense, i've never had that option in any of my machines01:11
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dariohello01:11
newsense07khaije1: gxinfo returns unable to open display01:11
khaije1wow, thats weird01:11
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uganewsense07: run it with the same user that started the desktop01:12
uganormal user, not root01:12
intelikeyany guesses ?01:12
jcs7778Is there a way to make my few gnome apps like firefox use the kde open save as dialogue insted of defaulting to nautilus?01:12
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darioati 3d driver no work01:13
Biovore!ati01:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
ugaintelikey: that's weird. What are you comparing to? (previous to *buntu desktop, I mean)01:13
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intelikeyuga yeah previous to installing *buntu-desktop01:13
newsense07uga: glxinfo still returns the same output as normal user or with superuser rights01:14
ugaintelikey: what did you have before that =)01:14
intelikeysame thing i have with that... ?01:14
intelikeylinux01:14
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ugaintelikey: what linux distro. My understanding is you just installed a kubuntu/ubuntu desktop. But based from where01:15
ugawhat CD did you install01:15
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intelikeyuga no.01:15
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newsense07uga: nm i just figured out why glxinfo was returning no screens found, i was running it from a different terminal than the xserver is running on01:15
intelikeyyou misunderstand.    i only installed the meta packages "*buntu-desktop"  onto the running linux system01:16
newsense07uga: what am i looking for?01:16
uganewsense07: no idea. It wasn't me that asked for glxinfo ;)01:16
newsense07uga:sorry01:16
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xluchoxI have a question related to wifi01:16
newsense07khaije1:what am i looking for in the output of glxinfo?01:16
intelikeyso anyone got a clue what installing *buntu-desktop might change that would make "setting up the network"  take so much longer ?01:17
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xluchoxIm using wifi from linux and I think it has less range01:17
ugaintelikey: those are installed by default with any ubuntu/kubuntu CD01:17
xluchoxis that possible?01:17
ugaintelikey: that's why I'm asking what you installed first01:17
khaije1newsense07: i don't remember specificly, but there is info in there that will tell you if yr gfx card has hw accel (which is needed for beryl)01:18
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khaije1newsense07: actually there are lots of great tutorials that can give you a step by step, have you checked any out?01:18
xluchoxwhen I get far nfrom the source I lose the connection very quickly01:18
intelikeyuga no you are asking because you don't believe what i say,  you think you know something about my system that i don't know.    you do not.   i have ubuntu linux installed,   everything setup the way i want.   then added *ubuntu-desktop01:19
newsense07khaije1: i was just told i cant use beryl with xgl i should use compiz /01:19
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khaije1newsense07: ha! sorry, i used the wrong term, when i set mine up it was still called beryl01:19
intelikeyadding *buntu-desktop   made the one process of "setting up the network" at boot time take much longer.01:19
khaije1newsense07: you are using fiesty?01:20
ugaintelikey: if I thought I knew what your system was, I wouldnt' be asking. I'm just asking what stfuf you installed first. Any ubuntu CD installs a desktop by default. Either kubuntu desktop or ubuntu desktop or edubuntu desktop or *desktop01:20
khaije1if so you already have aiglx, so you just need to install compiz01:20
intelikeyuga not applicable.01:20
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rajkalyan* rajkalyan?01:21
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ugaintelikey: you won't get answers if you don't answer questions. Sorry, but you sure are grown up enough to understand that01:21
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ugarajkalyan: cookies disabled here ;)01:22
rajkalyanLOL01:22
rajkalyan:01:22
rajkalyan:D01:22
intelikeyuga i have answered you.   there was no damned *buntu-desktop installed.   i suppose you never even heard of "server install"    please drop it now.01:22
rajkalyanooooooooooooo01:22
rajkalyanu just got dissed01:22
rajkalyanLOL01:22
ugaintelikey: sure, my question was "what CD did you install first, then"01:22
ugaand you still haven't answered01:22
ugaokay, now... server install, that's what I wanted to know01:23
ugaintelikey: now, did you notice any kernel upgrades... by ... any chance?01:23
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ugait could be a bug in the kernel module or dhclient01:23
intelikeybecause that question is not applicable to this issue.   i installed from the hoary install cd   but that is not applacable   and has nothing to do with this.01:23
ugaoh it does, if the upgrade to the desktop upgraded kernels01:24
ugaor if it enabled the network manager01:24
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intelikeyi didn't upgrade to.   ok you get ignored.01:24
ugaor if it upgraded the dhcp client01:24
ugaintelikey: thank you01:24
ugaI feel better =)01:24
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intelikeytalk about running circles....  man....01:25
khaije1wow uga you pissed off intelikey01:25
ugakhaije1: just by responding him =)01:25
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khaije1uhm...01:25
ugaI proposed 3 different possible issues01:25
ugasure the desktop got nothing to do with his bootup times01:25
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ugaeveryone knows that, ... except him ;)01:25
ugas/bootup times/network bootup times01:26
intelikeyanyone else have a thought on this.  i'm still interested in input.    and i'll try to not cause a seen01:26
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niwatixBonjour tout le monde ;)01:26
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khaije1intelikey: what is the issue?01:26
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intelikey!fr | NiwatiX01:26
ubotuNiwatiX: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:26
NiwatiXah sry01:26
NiwatiXhaha01:26
intelikeykhaije1 adding   *buntu-desktop   made the    'setting up the network'   at boot take  a lot longer.01:27
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intelikeyi mean what was maybe 2 seconds  now takes 41 seconds.    just that one script.   and the script didn't change.   i thought maybe  /etc/network/interfaces had  but alas  it hasn't either.     and i don't use dhcp  it's all static.01:29
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intelikeyhmmmm could be something in /etc/defaults/  maybe ???  i'll rm it and see.01:30
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Biovoreintelikey: probably avhi has something to do with that..01:32
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intelikeyavhi ???01:32
intelikeyis that an app ?01:32
ugaBiovore: the mDNS client can be that slow?01:32
intelikey!find avhi01:32
ubotuPackage/file avhi does not exist in feisty01:32
BiovoreIt does weird stuff on my box here..01:32
BiovoreI had to remove it..01:32
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Biovoreavhi-deamon I think is the package name01:33
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intelikeyav[tab]   no executables....01:33
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ugaBiovore: tell him avahi instead ;)01:33
ugahe's got me on ignore :P01:33
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Biovorehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=avahi&searchon=names&subword=1&version=feisty&release=all01:34
Biovorebasicly it manages you network interface for you..  I my case.. it made wrong deceissions all the time..01:35
Biovorebascily I replaced it with a small perl script..01:35
intelikeyah   powerpc.   this isn't a mac01:35
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Biovorei386,amd64,ppc01:36
Biovoreits on all01:36
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intelikeypackage doesn't exist in dapper anyway.01:36
Biovoreoh.. your on dapper.01:37
Biovore?01:37
ugaintelikey: had you told us before that you're still running dapper... but yeah, respond "not applicable" and get people thinking for ages01:37
intelikeyhave been sense two months before it released01:37
Biovorehaha.. differrent problem then..01:37
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intelikeyyeah.01:37
Biovoreall my dapper boxes are static ips.. so I not sure..01:38
Biovoreaw he left..01:38
umarzukihi01:38
BiovoreoO01:39
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ugaBiovore: you are surprised? didn't you see how he answered to all my questions up there, when I queried abou what he had installed?01:39
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Biovorenope.. only paying 1/2 attention atm01:40
uganice... ircing as root =)01:40
intelikeyit's not in /etc/default/      hmmm   i have no idea why it's taking longer.01:40
dario!ati01:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
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intelikeyuga again you show your   assumed inteligance.   i'm not root.  that's just a mask.01:40
ugafine with me01:41
ugaintelikey: you just had people turning around without telling them you were running dapper. Had you answered to my first question of what you had installed, it wouldn't have happenned01:41
Biovoreintelikey: I am guessing your using dhcp and its taking longer then expected?01:41
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ugaBiovore: static dns01:41
ugas/dns/ip01:42
rajkalyanthats my PSP01:42
rajkalyanjk01:42
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Biovorestatic ip shouldn't take any time at all..  My dapper box doesn't01:42
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khaije1my current isp setup is seriously lacking01:47
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intelikeyand there is the infernal reseting modem to deal with also...01:48
ugakhaije1: like most of them, unfortunately01:48
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intelikeyBiovore if you said anything after the    i suppose dhcp   statement   i missed.01:49
Biovorenothing really..  my dapper box's run static ips01:50
intelikeyk01:50
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intelikeyi wonder if some lib that is read has a dummy package that i was using before and now it's the full lib      i know that's reaching   but something has to have changed....01:52
intelikeys/is read/is read by ifup or ifconfig maybe/01:52
Biovorecould be..  dhcp client change maybe?01:53
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tekteenhi01:53
tekteeneveryone01:53
intelikeyagain if i used dhcp.....    but i don't.01:53
Biovorehmm..  My dapper boxes are statics and they don't have any problems here..01:53
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intelikeyit's not really a problem   just makes boot up take twice as long.    and these boxes get power off when not in use.01:54
tekteenCan anyone help me with a bash script?01:54
intelikeysure01:54
intelikeytekteen what ya need ?01:55
tekteenI need it to read in files01:55
tekteenone at a time (for)01:55
tekteenThe files have spaces01:55
tekteenIt gives me each word01:55
tekteennot file01:55
tekteenI even tried using sed to put quotes around each file01:56
tekteen???01:56
intelikeyfind /basedir/ -type f -exec echo '{}' ;\ | while read Q ;do something with $Q ;done01:56
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intelikeycan work with a varable as well as read.01:57
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tekteenthanks01:57
pillowpantshas anyone sucessfully been able to get flash working for firefox?01:57
intelikeynp01:57
pillowpantsamd6401:57
tekteenyes01:57
ardchoilleIs the konqueror web browser not able to load gmail?01:57
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tekteensorry not amd 6401:58
pillowpantstekteen : oh01:58
tekteenhave you tried from the repo01:58
tekteen?01:58
intelikeyardchoille i have heard that you need to have it identify as mozilla     or something like that.01:58
pillowpantstekteen : yeah, but nothing really does the job01:58
ardchoillepillowpants: I have friends who have gotten flash working in firefox on amd64 but it takes a lot of work01:58
khaije1pillowpants: google for nspluginwrapper01:58
ardchoilleintelikey: Ah, I'll try that.01:59
khaije1pillowpants: worked for me01:59
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pillowpantskhaije1 : yeah, ive head of that01:59
pillowpantstried it before, but with no sucess01:59
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pillowpantsill give it a go again01:59
ugaardchoille: it should work fine with current version of konqueror and gmail. What's happenning?01:59
pillowpantsdoes anyone know if adobe will be releasing a 64 bit plugin anytime soon?01:59
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ugapillowpants: they've always been slow at supporting linux... =(02:00
ardchoilleuga: It's reporting that ActiveX controls are not enabled.02:00
ugaactive x? has gmail gone nuts? =)02:00
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ardchoilleuga: That's what the web page said. Surprised me too.02:00
ugaardchoille: are you faking client browser ID?02:00
squidlickis there anyway to install flash,java, and all that on konquerer??02:00
pillowpantsdoes nspluginwrapper require using 32-bit firefox?02:01
pillowpantsor just the libraries for it02:01
ugaardchoille: tools->change browser identification->default identification02:01
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khaije1pillowpants: none of the above02:01
ugaworks fine for me, right now02:01
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intelikey!info flashplayer-nonfree | squidlick02:01
ubotusquidlick: Package flashplayer-nonfree does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:01
intelikeyooops.02:01
intelikeyi misnamed it i guess.   but search for the first word.02:01
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squidlick!info flashplayer02:02
intelikey!info flashplugin-nonfree02:02
ubotuPackage flashplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:02
khaije1pillowpants: it's all 64bit it just translates the netscape plugin api from 32 to 64, it's great02:02
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)02:02
intelikeythere  ya go  ^02:02
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pillowpantskhaije1 : ill try it02:02
pillowpantsthanks02:02
squidlick<- sad02:02
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squidlickty though intelikey02:03
ardchoilleuga: Got it, thanks.02:03
intelikey?02:03
intelikey!info flashplugin-nonfree | squidlick02:03
ubotusquidlick: flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)02:03
khaije1pillowpants: it's the next best thing to 64bit flash (which doesn't exist), making it the best thing :-)02:04
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intelikeyreality; the next best thing to vertual reality...02:07
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ardchoilleWow, I like that Change Browser Identification menu item :)  Now I can access my bank in konqueror :)02:11
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intelikeyhmmm that's not it either...     it's the little things that tic ya off.   ya know.02:11
ugakhaije1: is there an official site for the nspluginwrapper sources?02:11
ugakhaije1: or do I need to dig for debian sources02:12
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Zombine!ntfs02:13
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:13
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rustalothey guys, do you know how well flash works on 64-bit Gutsy?02:15
ugaheh, funny that, now that windows is trying to switch over to a new FS, linux is getting a stable ntfs rw access ;)02:15
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daSkreech!flash6402:15
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava02:15
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ugarustalot: I tried a gutsy upgrade,... and no matter how much I tried, the thing wouldn't even boot, here02:15
daSkreech!gutsy | rustalot02:15
uboturustalot: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:15
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rustalotuga: well, I'm using gutsy32 now, because feisty doesn't work on my laptop02:17
rustalotanyways, it's offtopic02:17
ugaokay, I was just warning you ;)02:17
daSkreechrustalot: #ubuntu+1 should give you a better idea how it is currently02:18
ugadaSkreech: people there weren't very responsive when I asked...02:18
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daSkreechuga: Yeah busy look for extinguishers for their computers >_<02:19
ugalol02:19
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rustalothey, do you guys know anything about samba?02:30
atlfalcons866how do install gusty gibbon02:30
rustalot!gutsy02:31
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:31
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intelikeytesting  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3965502:35
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intelikeymay have issues with unicode and the  chat02:36
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daSkreechintelikey: What's that do?02:38
atlfalcons866!gutsy02:39
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:39
intelikeyjust display info.02:39
daSkreechThat would be the \260 ?02:40
intelikeyyes the   `printf "\260"`02:40
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intelikey  heh   #02:43
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intelikeywell shoot.  even though i have   *buntu-desktop installed it seems i dont have ubuntu-base installed    no nano....  //02:48
stdinhow can you live without nano??02:48
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daSkreechUse pico :)02:49
intelikeysimple as mc02:49
stdinnano is pico, or as intelikey would say "nano == pico == nano"02:49
intelikeydaSkreech heh without nano you have no pico either  pico is a symlink to nano02:49
intelikeyfooled ya.  said something different    :)02:49
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uga|awaystrange... why is it that in two continous installs of the same CD, one of them had ia32 libs installed, yet the other one didn't?02:50
uga|awayand thus I had 32bit apps not working02:50
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intelikeysomething you chose ?     or maybe just a  'ubiquity'  thang !02:51
ugathere's basically no options during the kubuntu install, other than the mirror02:52
intelikeyyeah  sux don't it.02:52
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ugathe only difference is on one of the installs I only formatted the / partition. It doesn't make much senses02:52
intelikeyidk.02:53
intelikeyi don't even use partitions any more.02:53
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daSkreechnot even one?02:53
intelikeynope\02:53
uganot even swap?02:54
yoshibothow does that even work02:54
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ugayoshibot: well, one partition is needed... sda1 or so ;)02:54
intelikeyyoshibot you don't mount partitions you mount file systems.   i made a file system on the hd02:54
Biovoreyou don't need  a swap partition02:54
ugaat least _one_ =)02:54
intelikeyuga  i have no partition   none.02:55
Biovoreit can be a swap file02:55
ugaintelikey: so you boot off the net?02:55
ugaBiovore: right02:55
intelikeyno  i use lilo02:55
Biovorehehe02:55
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yoshibotso he just has everything on the hard drive raw with no partition table?02:55
Biovorepartitions are a PC thing..02:55
Biovoresome systems don't use partitions on there..02:55
intelikeyyoshibot correct.02:55
yoshibotthat is both the craziest and the coolest thing I've heard of02:56
Biovorenonthing about linux says you have to have a parition on your storage media..02:56
intelikeyyoshibot ty    lol02:56
ugaBiovore: yup, as far as you can get lilo to boot from there =)02:56
intelikeylilo has no probelm   grub on the other hand can't do it.02:56
Biovoreit would be a chainload for grub02:57
Biovorekinda tricky02:57
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intelikeylilo reads a literal address.   "blocks"    grub premounts a partition,   and seeing that i have no partition grub can't be used.02:57
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intelikeyi tried seven ways to sunday to make grub work.   it's just too weak.02:58
ugauhm... there's a bug in the latest pack of clamav-base02:59
ugait tries to chown the directory /var/run/clamav02:59
ugawithout trying to create it first if it doesn't exist ;)02:59
intelikeynot running it as root are you ?02:59
Biovorewell lilo is simplistic for that kind of stuff.. just load some data at some offset and then executes it..02:59
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intelikeycan't run clamav as root   it wont work.02:59
ugaintelikey: a bug in the installer, not in the app03:00
ugain the deb file03:00
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ugaSetting up clamav-base (0.90.2-0ubuntu1.4) ...03:00
ugachown: cannot access `/var/run/clamav': No such file or directory03:00
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uga^^^ it will work if a previous version of clamav has been installed, but obviously not if it's first time03:01
intelikeyBiovore correct   where as  grub is an   OS   and it has to then read the fs the kernel is on,   they simply forgot to allow for mounting things that bios doesn't recognize.      basically if bios cant boot it grub can't either.03:01
ugaso you just manually create the dir and the setup goes just fine03:01
bigdaveHi all!  Does anybody know how to prevent "Remote Share" icons from being placed on the desktop (KDE) for CIFS shares mounted in /etc/fstab?03:01
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savetheWorldHi all, anyone know what the name of the apt packages are for Samba/CIFS and sshd?03:02
intelikeyuga yeah  the dpkg scripts are not very well written    all that one needed was a    mkdir -p /var/run/clamav    line before it chowned it and  bingo  it works....03:02
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intelikeyfirst year bash monkey should know that....03:03
stdinsavetheWorld: samba is in the "samba" package, and sshd is in "openssh-server"03:03
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intelikeysavetheWorld   samba <something and>  ssh03:03
savetheWorldthanks you gentlemen!03:04
intelikeyidk about the cifs03:04
savetheWorld|thanks you"?  stupid fingers... :-)03:04
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stdincifs is an extension of smb, all part of samba03:05
ardchoillesavetheWorld: It's not you, it's your keyboard.. you don't have the "do what I want not what I said" plugin installed ;)03:05
bigdavesavetheWorld: I believe sshd is in "openssl" and cifs is in "smbfs" and/or "smbclient"03:05
intelikeyah ok.  then    samba ssh      or as stdin put it openssh-server03:05
intelikeyardchoille :)03:06
waylandbillintelikey: do you ever sleep? :)03:06
ardchoillewaylandbill: No03:06
waylandbillI thought so03:06
savetheWorldok, thank you.03:06
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intelikeyerr no wait.03:06
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intelikey :)03:07
savetheWorldardchoille: it is me, I almost did it again. :-)03:07
ardchoillesavetheWorld: lol03:07
waylandbillis there a difference? ;)03:07
ardchoillewaylandbill: No03:07
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waylandbill21:00 or 03:00.. it seems like intelikey is always on03:08
intelikey[ ubuntu-base -o ! ubuntu-base ] 03:08
intelikeyed !03:09
intelikeyed is not even installed....03:09
bigdaveNobody has a clue re: "Remote Share" icons on the desktop????03:09
ugabigdave: the thing is I don't have smb mounted drives over ehre03:09
ugabigdave: what you want is just to change the icon?03:10
ugaso that it looks like any other normal folder?03:10
intelikeycan you believe this    with *buntu-desktop installed    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3965603:10
ugaor just avoiding them to appear on the desktop03:10
bigdaveI wanted to NOT have them show up on the desktop at all.  I have them mounted via /etc/fstab.  I'd like them accessed via the file system -- not via an icon shortcut to a smb:// link03:11
bigdaveon the desktop03:11
ugathere's an option on what media it should show... iirc03:11
ugaa sec03:11
intelikeybigdave  right click the desktop and select the show device icons tab   choose what you want.03:11
intelikeyoh   in the configure desktop  ^03:12
ugabigdave: there it is03:12
ugabigdave: kcontrol->desktop->behavior03:12
ugabigdave: device icons->show device icons:03:12
ugaand unselect samba shares03:12
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ugas/unselect/deselect03:13
intelikeykcontrol or right click the desktop or system settings   all lead to the same page03:13
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ugaintelikey: maybe in dapper03:14
intelikeykde + right click everything  == kcontrol03:14
ugait shows part of kcotrol kcms, right03:14
ugabut not all03:14
bigdaveAWESOME!  You ROCK!  Now are those settings per user or are they global to KDE?03:14
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intelikeytrue.  i stand corrected.  i was inprecise on that one.   thank you.03:15
intelikeybigdave user03:16
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ugabigdave: they are per user basis. I guess you could hack the defaults so that they get copied to .kde, thugh03:16
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intelikeybigdave basicly if it doesn't ask for your password it's local.03:17
fairesHi, I'm trying to watch a DVD area 4, and Kaffeine says I cannot doing so03:17
bigdaveuga / intelikey: Alrighty!  Thanks a LOT!03:17
faires(But I'm in area 4... :) )03:17
jr_How do I remove the limit to when my screen goes blank?03:17
fairesIs there anything I should apt-get in order to it work properly?03:17
intelikeyjr_ bios03:17
jr_From within Kubuntu?03:18
fairesKaffeine says the DVD is encrypted03:18
Biovorefaires: well since your outside the US.. you can get libdecss03:18
intelikeyjr_ that is normally set in bios apm apci      if you are only talking about the screensaver   right click the desktop and configure it.03:19
ugaBiovore: he could, even if he were inside the US ;)03:19
Biovorewell technical decss violates the DMCA03:19
jr_intelikey: I don't have the screensaver configured03:19
fairesBiovore: thanks, I'll try03:19
intelikeyjr_ there is also kde power management       you can look into that.  but i make no promice that it will over ride the bios setting.03:20
stdinjr_: give "xset s off" a go, and remove the "DPMS" part from xorg.conf03:20
jr_"xset s off" a command?03:21
fairesBiovore: are you sure libdecss is the package name?03:21
stdinjr_: yes03:21
fairesAdept is not finding it...03:21
intelikeystdin that works too,  on newer bios'    don't know what he has to work with tho...  </shrugs>03:21
jr_Sysinfo for 'jr-laptop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)MCPU430@1.73GHz at 1729 MHz (3461 bogomips), , RAM: 1941/2018MB, 116 proc's, 1.24h up03:22
stdinfaires, Biovore: it's "libdvdcss" not "libdcss"03:22
intelikeyshould be new enough03:22
stdinfaires: just do "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" to install it03:22
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intelikeyABOMINIUS what language ?03:24
fairesstdin: Thanks, I'm trying it...03:24
intelikeyABOMINIUS python ?03:25
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ABOMINIUSguess03:25
hydrogenthats obviously not python03:25
ABOMINIUSphp script03:25
stdinmmk03:25
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fairesstdin: Biovore: thanks a lot, it worked properly...03:25
intelikeyit's obviously not shell script either   :)03:25
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hydrogencould be perl I think03:26
hydrogenbut then again03:26
fairesNow I can watch "An inconvenient truth"... ;)03:26
hydrogenalmost anything could be perl03:26
intelikeyphp   hmmmm ok.03:26
Zombinehydrogen:  But why would you?03:26
hydrogen%)#@()#()$@)()(;.\& <- prints out the first six books of the bible in perl03:26
intelikeyhydrogen well i first thought perl  but then the echo command through a wrench in that idea03:27
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ZombineFurthermore, does anyone know how to turn off all KDE's damn annoying sounds?03:27
dezordiaHi Sirs!03:27
intelikeyZombine heh yeah   kcontrol03:27
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intelikeybreaking glass are we Zombine ?03:28
stdinor System Settings > Notifications03:28
Zombineintelikey: More or less :D03:29
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intelikeynot by choice tho03:29
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ZombineNo speakers?  No driver?  No card?03:30
intelikeynone of the above.03:30
ZombineJust told it to shut its damn mouth?03:30
intelikeyissue #4203:30
dezordiaanybody has a Eric4 .deb for kubuntu ? or a URL for source.lists ?03:30
Zombineintelikey: Which is....?03:31
intelikeyno it talks,  just so quiet you need to hold the speekers to your ear to hear them03:31
intelikeyas far as i can tell it's not repairable within dapper.03:31
Zombineoh.  I noticed my box has quieter sound that it does on XP, but I haven't installed any drivers...03:32
ZombinePick a new distro?03:32
dezordia+_+03:32
BiovoreZombine: try tunning up the sound levels in the mixer..  might need to turn up some odd ball ones..03:32
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dezordiaanybody has a Eric4 .deb for kubuntu ? or a URL for source.lists to install it ?03:33
ZombineBiovore: Will try.  Thanks03:33
intelikeythought about it.   but if i do that i need to add an hd.  this one has some archived stuff i don't want to loose.03:33
Zombineintelikey: You can't install one over another without a new format each time?03:33
Zombinealso box.com03:33
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intelikeyZombine   box.com ???03:34
intelikeyheh03:34
intelikey:)03:34
Zombineintelikey: It's an online storage host.  Like photobucket I guess but for whatever03:34
dezordiaanybody has a ideia?03:35
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intelikeyyeah for what ever.     cardboard or plastic ?    lol03:35
Zombinelol03:35
intelikeydezordia ! i03:36
dezordiaintelikey: Hi! =D03:36
intelikeysorry shell code for    not me03:36
intelikey             ! blah         not whatever03:37
dezordiaintelikey: You know how i install eric4 on kubuntu ?03:37
Zombinedezordia: sudo apt-get install eric4?03:37
rrbizsome1 know about intel pentium M scaling why it's not ?03:37
intelikeydezordia that was the answer    no.   ! i    or  not me.03:37
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dezordiano has a eric4 package, only eric3 package. =(03:38
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Zombinedezordia: Actually, if it isn't in the repositories for Synaptic, you can download it from eric's website and install it using the install command from your hdd03:39
dezordiaon official source.list03:39
intelikey!b-e | dezordia you can build the source, but you need to look here03:39
ubotudezordia you can build the source, but you need to look here: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:39
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dezordiaZombine: This is not the problem. . . The problem is with the QScintilla2...03:41
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dezordiaThis is dont work. =(03:42
Zombinedezordia: Okay you are now over my head xD.  But someone here is bound to be smarter than I am03:42
kloplopI know this is an odd question, but how can I have a background music while on my login screen, I bet edited sources can do it, but that's beyond me03:42
Zombinekloplop aside from starting a player and switching users?  No idea :P03:43
dezordiaI come here imagine anybody was make a package from the eric4.03:43
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intelikeykloplop have kdm call a script03:44
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kloplopyeah, well I got this awsomly annoying song that will annoy the heck out of anyone but me, and I want it to play every time I boot up03:45
ZombineHow would I change my default music player?03:45
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intelikeykloplop in the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.conf  i think you can specify   errrr not sure.   maybe i better check.03:45
kloplopwell, this is an mp3, so can the system play it by itself?03:45
intelikeykloplop on only on boot   that's easy.   call it from  /etc/rc.local03:46
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dezordiaWell, i will make the package eric4 for kubuntu. But not now. . . in a few days!03:46
kloplopk just a sec03:46
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dezordiaTks guys! c'ya! o/03:46
intelikeykloplop make it a .ogg and sox can   well it can mp3 also if you tell it the decoder to use   but .ogg is the easy way.03:47
kloplopok, just a moment though I need to get to the conf file anyway03:47
intelikeyinstall sox     edit /etc/rc.local   adding a line   play /path/to/file.ogg03:47
kloplopok :)03:48
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intelikeynote that only root will be able to kill that.   i will play until it ends.  or you sudo killall sox03:49
kloplopintelikey, I am installing cox right now03:49
kloplopsox03:49
intelikeysox03:49
intelikeyyeah.03:49
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kloplophow would I convert an mp3 to ogg in linux anyway?03:49
hydrogenlame -d file.mp3 oggenc file.wav03:50
intelikeyseveral ways.  easiest i know of is  audacity03:50
hydrogenor03:50
hydrogenmp32ogg03:50
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hydrogenoddly enough :)(03:50
intelikeyoh yeah that.  mp32ogg   forgot that one.03:50
kloplopyeah well just wait, I gota copy it off my windows hardrive on sda203:50
hydrogenaudacity is kind of like using latex to write an email03:50
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hydrogensure it does the job.. but is it really worth it?03:51
intelikeyhydrogen if you have "keyphobia"  it is...  :)03:52
jhutchinsThere's probably an mp3toogg wrapper taht does it.03:52
hydrogenlike `mp32ogg`03:52
hydrogenyou mean?03:52
hydrogen(which I meantioned all of two minutes ago)03:52
ugahow about getting your desktops up to date and installing gui apps? =)03:52
ugasoundkonverter, for example :P03:52
hydrogenwhy use a gui app to do something that is a whole lot easier on the command line?03:53
intelikeyhey maybe there is a tool in the ogg-utils package that can do that,,,   like  mp32ogg   or something ?03:53
intelikeyvorbis-utils  even03:53
ugaif audacity is to sound encoding what latex is to e-mailing, then mpg32ogg is to encoding what telnet is to e-mailing ;)03:53
intelikeynot telnet   fetchmail.03:53
hydrogencd /music/mp3; find . -name \*.mp3 -exec mp32ogg {} +03:54
hydrogenno03:54
intelikeybetter qoute that    '{}'03:54
hydrogenfetchmail is one way :)03:54
intelikeymight have spaces in the file name.03:54
yoshibotAnyone here know how to get Kubuntu to use two heads?03:54
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intelikeyhydrogen you said "sending an email"  ok   sendmail   my bad.03:55
kloplopI am converting the mp3 to ogg right now with lame03:55
hydrogendoesn't matter about spaces in the name03:55
hydrogenin theory03:55
hydrogenthough I suppose if mp32ogg didn't handle it03:55
intelikeyalso has to end in   \;03:55
hydrogenno03:55
kloplopjust put _03:55
hydrogenI intentionally did \;03:55
ugaapt-get install sounkonverter, guys ;)03:55
hydrogenerr03:55
hydrogenI intentionally did +03:56
hydrogenthough it may not work with mp32ogg either :)03:56
hydrogennever tried03:56
hydrogen+ passes as many matches as it can on one command line03:56
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hydrogenrather than a new process for each match03:56
ugakloplop: btw, I presume you got no access to the original sources? you are losing quality twice03:57
intelikeyhydrogen and you intentionally did that with an incoder ???03:57
ugahydrogen: dno't forget quality settings03:57
hydrogenintelikey: as I said I'm not sure how mp32ogg would handle it03:57
hydrogenIt's just generally a better idea :)03:57
hydrogenuga: For most usages (read non audiophile) the default quality setting is fine.. especially if one is converting from mp3 anyways03:58
hydrogeneither way03:58
hydrogenas you can see TMTOWTDI03:58
ugayes, notice the mp3 could be set to real high quality03:58
hydrogentheres no such thing :P03:59
ugahydrogen: Too Much TO What To Do I?03:59
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hydrogenclose!03:59
kloplopuga, yeah I noticed when I played it, it seemed to loose quality03:59
ugaTom Must Teach Will To Do Insane?03:59
hydrogenTheres more than one way to do it!04:00
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ugakloplop: unless you really need oggs, I'd suggest keeping the mp304:00
ugas04:00
intelikeyjust use audacity  :)04:00
hydrogenwe can all agree thats the silliest way to do it :)04:00
maltaethironHey, who can help me install wine?04:00
kloplopI really don't care about it, I just want to have it play on the login screen :D04:00
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hydrogenheh, all this for one file?04:01
intelikeyuga unless you really like propritary, i'd sujest using only ogg vorbis04:01
hydrogenif you have mp3 already04:01
ugaintelikey: he's got the mp3s already04:01
kloplopwell, brb, I am going to test this04:01
hydrogenthen switching to ogg is kind of silly :)04:01
intelikeyuga it's one mp3 in question.04:01
hydrogenunless you suddenly married RMS's sister04:01
maltaethironcan somebody please help me install wine??04:01
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intelikeymaltaethiron   sudo apt-get install wine04:02
intelikeymaltaethiron or is that 64 bit ?04:02
Dr_willisSame as ya install anything else basicially. :)04:02
maltaethironintelikey : yes, and i havent got wine in my repos04:02
ugaintelikey: he may need to enable universe or multiverse04:02
ugamaltaethiron: there's no wine for 64bit04:03
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maltaethirondamn04:03
maltaethironwell thanks04:03
maltaethironhmm...well is there some way i can get Steam to work on 64 bit?04:03
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uga32bit chrooting might help04:03
hydrogendoesn't *buntu support multilib installs?04:04
Dr_willismight want to ask 'why do i need 64bit'04:04
hydrogen!multilib04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multilib - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:04
hydrogenheh04:04
hydrogenworth a try :)04:04
toxop1asmahey guys, a quick noob question: what's the command to read /etc/fstab and remount everything?04:04
Dr_willismount -a04:04
toxop1asmathanks04:04
maltaethironuga : what would 32bit chrooting be?04:04
Dr_willisthat will not remount everyting04:05
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hydrogenah, nope04:05
Dr_willisit will 'auto mount' whats set to auto mount04:05
kloplopthe music didn't play04:05
ugaDr_willis: 4GB or userspace ram? :P04:05
Dr_willistheres no 'remount everyting' command that i am aware of.04:05
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hydrogenmaltaethiron: you may want to see http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-08d4087d863019523214064680fcf26721c9a1af04:05
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kloplopapparently LAME doesn't encode it to Ogg Vorbis04:07
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hydrogenno04:07
hydrogenit encodes to mp304:07
Arv3nHi.04:07
hydrogenyou need to use oggenc04:08
Arv3nHow do I get Konversation to autoidentify me?04:08
diskonnected3hey room...can somebody tell me where i can find the linux-source-2.6.20-15-generic for the 7.04 Kubuntu distro?? i need the kernel source to compile the nvidia drivers04:08
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kloplopit wouldn't let me04:08
hydrogenlame -d file && oggenc file04:08
abominiuswhere i can find out if my radeon x1550 is supported by radeon open drivers?04:08
hydrogenyou could probably shorten that file04:08
hydrogenbut I don't want to think04:08
orinMy Logitech USB microphone registers with the system and then suddenly loses power. Here's a sample log of what happens (from dmesg | tail -f): http://phpfi.com/26449904:08
Arv3nHow do I get Konversation to autoidentify me?04:08
diskonnected4hey room...can somebody tell me where i can find the linux-source-2.6.20-15-generic for the 7.04 Kubuntu distro?? i need the kernel source to compile the nvidia drivers04:08
orinlsusb only shows my keyboard and my mouse.04:08
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hydrogendiskonnected3: why can't you just install the nvidia drivers from adept?04:08
diskonnectedthey didnt work04:08
diskonnectedthey screwed the xconfig up04:09
hydrogenthats nice and descriptive04:09
Arv3nIs it possible for me to get Konversation to autoidentify me?04:09
Dr_willisgee.. an 8800 video card?04:09
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hydrogenhow did they screw it up?04:09
diskonnectedso i reverted to the backup and then it worked04:09
orindiskonnected: I had to edit my xorg.conf for my 8300 GS because not everything worked out of the box.04:09
diskonnectedwhen i restarted x i got no picture and a x11 server crash04:09
kloplopthere its converted using mp32ogg04:09
hydrogendid you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?04:09
Dr_willisdiskonnected,  and what is your video card?04:09
trprArv3n: under the identity i created to use with the server, i set the service to "nickserv" and put my password into the password box04:09
abominiuswhere i can find out if my radeon x1550 is supported by radeon open drivers?04:09
hydrogenwithout the ? obviously04:09
diskonnectedno i did not04:09
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diskonnectedits a generic nvidia geforce fx 520004:09
baghyayhi how to change language of keyboard04:10
kloplopok it works, in the terminal, just a moment04:10
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diskonnectedok04:10
Dr_willisthe xorf.conf file should be virtually identical for most nvidia cards. the fx 5200 i think should work find with the nvidia drivers in the repos.04:10
ugaArv3n: File->ServerList->edit your irc server (freenode thing)->select the identity->edit...->AutoIdentify: service=NickServ, password, yours04:10
Dr_willisyou may want to install/use the 'restricted-manager' tool to install them04:10
Arv3nTY guys.04:10
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Arv3nI thought it was NickServ IDENTIFY04:10
diskonnectedthey installed fine but then when i restarted the x after doing sudo nvidia-glx-config enable it did nothing...04:10
abominius...04:10
hydrogena cool little trick you can use on freenode04:10
abominius!radeon04:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:11
hydrogenis setting the server password to your nick's password04:11
ugaArv3n: no, konversation takes care of sending the command, you only need to tell it the service name (NickServ)04:11
toxop1asmaDr_willis: yeah, that's what i meant, but couldn't articulate on account of noobness. it worked, so thanks :)04:11
hydrogenand it will identify for you that way04:11
Arv3nOK, well.04:11
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Arv3nIs this on Freenode?04:11
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hydrogenyes04:11
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Arv3nOK, I don't need to re-register then.04:11
kloplopwhere is that file that has the boot instructions where I would put it in? I forgot where it was04:11
Arv3nI keep seeing irc.ubuntu.com everywhere.04:11
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Arv3nBRB.04:11
Dracariok that was weird my xubuntu mac just nearly crashed04:11
hydrogenubuntu.com is linked to freenode04:11
diskonnectedthanks guys; im gonna go try that command u just told me and ill let ya'll know..thanks!04:11
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hydrogenor it actually just points to irc.freenode.net04:12
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Dracaribut anyone know the sudo command for Adept Manger in terminal04:12
Arv3nhydrogen: IC.04:12
Arv3nIt doesn't say I'm identified. -_-04:12
diskonnectedsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
yoshibotDracari: maybe kdesu adept_manager04:12
baghyayhow to change  the keybord language plz i  want  write somthing  in arabic04:12
diskonnectedright?04:12
xluchoxhow can I put a program out for a blacklist?04:12
Dr_willisxluchox,  Huh?04:13
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hydrogendiskonnected: yes04:13
xluchoxyeah04:13
Arv3nOK, I just had to restart Konversation. -_-04:13
Arv3nHow is Gutsy going?04:13
xluchoxI had to put a program in blacklist, but I think I need it now04:13
Arv3nI'm upgrading to it right now from Beta 3.04:13
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Arv3nOr Tribe 3, sorry.04:13
Dr_willisArv3n,  its working decently well.. but just the other day had 400mb of updates. :)04:13
Arv3n400mb?04:14
Arv3nAre you sure?04:14
ugaArv3n: heh, good luck. I couldn't boot tribe 5 after upgrading from feisty ;)04:14
Dr_willisArv3n,    like it matters. :)04:14
Arv3nNeed to get 459MB of archives.04:14
Dr_willisI alsways do a clean reinstall anyway04:14
Arv3nI'm upgrading from Tribe 3. =/04:14
Arv3nTribe 3 --> Tribe 5/Prebeta = 459MB of updates? o_o04:14
Dr_willisthats how it goes.04:14
Dr_willisbrb04:15
Arv3nPacman > apt-get.04:15
Arv3nWell.04:15
hydrogenI've never ran into an opinion (other than my own of course) that was correct04:15
Arv3nin matter of difficulty imo its04:15
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Dracariand how can i configure xubuntu for smb ? i had kubuntu installed on this ppc mac and it was allready set but i dunn have anything set for samba04:15
Arv3nuh04:15
Dracarion this distro04:15
Arv3ngentoo/portage/ebuilds/whatever > deb > rpm > pacman binaries (o_o)04:16
Arv3nsimply because every time i try and install gnome/kde/xfce on gentoo from a pure install.04:16
Arv3nI always get these builds errors and what not, just basically something thats unsolvable.04:16
Arv3nLike call stack error, and it always happens. =|04:16
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diskonnected3hey people..how do i find out the hardware ID of my graphics card??im sorry to bug ya'll i havnt been using linux for a long time...im jus starting to get the hang of it again04:17
kloplophey thanks guys for helping me put annoying music on boot :)04:17
victoria_lspci in terminal ?04:17
diskonnected3thanks04:18
diskonnected3i totally new that too lol..jus im slow:)04:18
Arv3nwe all are. (not really)04:18
victoria_:)04:18
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Arv3nim slow too.04:18
diskonnected301:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)04:18
Arv3nbut i cant speak for everyone. =X04:18
diskonnected3does that sound right?04:18
kloplopI got the same graphics card04:18
victoria_that looks like it04:18
diskonnected3u do?04:18
kloplopyes04:18
diskonnected3ok04:18
Arv3nfx 5200..04:19
kloplopis there something I can help with on that?04:19
Arv3new, those were old and crappy even when the 5XXX series were good. >.>04:19
diskonnected3so in the configure xserver-xorg i would put PCI:01:00.0 ?04:19
diskonnected3right now its got PCI:1:0:004:19
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ardchoillediskonnected3: I use nvidia drivers and have never changed the default setting for that04:20
kloplopwell, cya04:20
victoria_i have the nvidia GeForce4 420 Go and I can't run compiz on it :(04:20
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diskonnected3ok..so leave it then? cuz when i got the last xorg crash b4 it was saying there was no card at the hardware id it had listed in the config file...04:20
victoria_i've tried eNvy and everything, but I always end up with the white screen of death04:20
Arv3nwhite screen of death, lole.04:20
maltaethironok, listen up and listen good: i have the wine stuff downloaded and untared on my desktop.  a website is telling me to compile it using "./configure", followed by "make", and then "make install"...anyone able to help me on this??04:21
ardchoillediskonnected3: Oh, in that case I don't know.04:21
Arv3nuh.04:21
Arv3nyou dont compile it frmo source.04:21
Arv3nyou open adept and search for wine ad install it.04:21
maltaethiron...04:21
maltaethironlisten04:21
maltaethironok04:21
maltaethironwell04:21
Arv3nthats SERIOUSLY not recommended.04:21
maltaethironi got 64 bit04:21
Arv3ncompiling from source = bad, bad bad bad.04:21
diskonnected3well lspci is saying its 01:00.0 and the cofigure program is asking if its PCI:1:0:0...so what would you guys/girls suggest?04:21
ardchoillemaltaethiron: install it from the repos04:21
maltaethironit's not in the repos04:21
Arv3ni cant help with 64-bit, sorry.04:21
ardchoille!wine | maltaethiron04:21
ubotumaltaethiron: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:21
Dr_willisIm not sure that wine CAN run in 64bit04:21
Dr_willisor it would be in the repos.04:22
maltaethironcan anyone just give me a better list of repos04:22
Arv3nwhy not just use the 32 bit version? -_-04:22
Dr_willis!easysource04:22
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:22
Arv3nare you really experiencing that much of a speed increase with the 64 bit version?04:22
maltaethironthats it, source o matic, thanks04:22
Dr_willisYou would need to use the 32bit chroot stuff. i belive04:22
Dr_willis!chroot04:22
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box04:22
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Dr_willisunless you got 4gb+ of memory - you proberly are not gaining mucgh by using 64bit disrto anyway04:23
diskonnected3ardchoille > any suggestions?04:23
Arv3nsrsly.04:23
Arv3nand if you have 4gigs of memory04:23
Arv3nwell.. i dont think it would matter and i would still use the 32 bit version.04:23
Arv3nsince 64-bit is horrible. =X04:24
Dracarii'm not using 32bit or 64bit or x86 ubuntu :P04:24
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Arv3nPPC?04:24
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Arv3ni dont think ppc is supported anymore, is it?04:24
Arv3nso thats even worse than 64 bit. =P04:25
Dracarifiest fawn 7.0404:25
Dracari*fiesty04:25
Arv3nfeisty* o_o04:25
Arv3nisnt it feisty04:25
Arv3nyeah its feisty.04:25
Dracariso my spelling sucks @ times04:25
Arv3nits ok.04:26
vamp898how does Totem Plays DVDs with Mens?04:26
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william__can i get a little temperture widget and forcequit thing like in gnome for kubuntu?04:26
victoria_does anyone here know if ubuntu can play VCDs now? I can play DVDs with no problem but VCDs just won't play :(04:27
dave4272Apple quicktime trailers, how to view in Firefox?04:28
Arv3nmplayer? maybe?04:28
dave4272mplayer within firefox?04:28
Arv3nyeah.04:28
Arv3nthe plugin, try that.04:28
Arv3nnot sure.04:29
Arv3nmaybe realplayer.04:29
shockdiodehmm, i play vcds no probem in kubuntu with xine, I can't remember if I had to install any plugins for xine to do that or not04:29
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Arv3nwhat is xine?04:29
Arv3nisnt that the backend for videos or something?04:29
shockdiodevideo player04:29
shockdiodeyeah04:29
victoria_there's a multi-platform embedded player downloadable for firefox -- if you see the puzzlepiece on the browser screen that says plugin required, you can just click that and it will tell you what you need04:29
dave4272you're not understanding me. when i go to apple.com/trailers and try to watch a trailer, nothing happens04:29
Arv3nhold.04:29
Arv3ni think you might need flash.04:30
Arv3non gutsy, it loads fine.04:30
Dracarithatsbig downall to mei can use flash04:30
Dracari*cant04:30
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Arv3ngutsy tribe 3, i havent even installed anything, im just done a fresh install and now upgrading to tribe 5.04:31
DracariAdobe flash no longer has a ppc vers04:31
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Arv3nwell.04:31
Arv3ni dont know what to say then.04:31
dave4272i don't need flash. Apple's trailers all use h.264 codecs.04:31
Arv3nwell.04:31
Arv3nwhatever it is, it works perfectly fine with kubuntu. o_o04:31
Arv3ngutsy04:31
Arv3nok, nevermind. it just shows a grey screen after loading.04:31
dave4272what browser are you using, firefox?04:31
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Arv3nim using konqueror.04:32
Arv3nand no, sorry, nevermind, its not done loading yet.04:32
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Arv3ni know.04:32
Arv3ni hate konqueror. *kry*04:32
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dave4272i think what i need is a h.264 plugin for firefox/ubuntu04:32
Arv3nwell, try doing whatever you think is best, then.04:32
Arv3nhonestly, i would think either flash or mplayer plugin.04:33
shockdiodemozilla-mplayer04:33
victoria_http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknight/trailer1/  <<-when i load this up it says NO Video04:33
victoria_:(04:33
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dave4272firefox already has flash built in. Apple trailers have nothing to do with flash, this is not youtube04:33
william__how do i force close a window in kde?04:33
Arv3njust click x04:34
william__and if that doesnt work04:34
Arv3nand thhen a window should pop up saying to kill the program04:34
vamp898STRG + ALT + ESC04:34
vamp898than klick the window04:34
Arv3nor type killall <program name>04:34
daSkreechdave4272: Firefox does not have Flash built in04:34
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Arv3ndo we have any ops in here?04:35
Arv3nbecause it says we have none.04:35
Arv3nif we dont have any ops, then thats really risky. o_o04:35
dave4272so you're saying firefox does not do flash? how come flash sites load and so forth04:35
william__~$ sudo killall vlc04:35
william__Password:04:35
william__vlc: no process killed04:35
Arv3nyou have to install flash first.04:35
Arv3ntherefore it is not built in.04:35
Arv3nbuilt-in means that its already installed with the program.04:35
dave4272whatever, you're digressing04:35
vamp898william: try STRG + ESC and search the prozecc04:36
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Arv3nnot even sure what digressing means.04:36
vamp898or STRG + ALT + ESC and klick the window04:36
daSkreechArv3n: Lets say if they are needed they are here04:36
dave4272it's in a dictionary04:36
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william__what is strg04:36
vamp898CTRL04:36
vamp898sry04:36
vamp898^^04:36
william__oh right04:36
vamp898German keyboard^^04:37
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nonewmsgsthat worked thanks04:37
Arv3nk, i dont feel like reading in a dictionary for a word i'll never use. =/04:37
nonewmsgsim william _04:37
vamp898kk04:37
daSkreechnonewmsgs: that's a program called Xkill it destroys any X window04:37
shockdiodevictoria: using the mozilla-mplayer package makes that link work fine for me04:37
daSkreechnonewmsgs: Please don't click on your desktop04:37
nonewmsgscan i sudo apt get xkill?04:37
Arv3nsudo apt-get install xkill04:38
daSkreechnonewmsgs: It's there already04:38
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nonewmsgsis xkill in the kmenu or is it a terminal command04:38
aftermathhow do I see a list of my hardware?04:38
newsense07nonewmsgs: can add it to the kmenu if ya want04:39
daSkreechnonewmsgs: Funny enough it's a terminal command04:39
daSkreechnonewmsgs: alt+ctrl+Esc is a short cut to it04:39
daSkreechaftermath: lshw04:39
victoria_shockdiode: many thanks04:39
shockdiodesure thing04:39
vamp898ctrl + esc is nice too04:39
nonewmsgsexcellant.  one other question.  what is the difference between konsole, terminal, and terminal emulator04:39
Arv3n?04:39
Arv3nkonsole = kde terminal04:40
vamp898terminal = gnome terminal04:40
Arv3nactually.04:40
Dr_willisxkill is an old skool terminal commandused to kill x apps wth a mouse click04:40
Arv3nmight he mean pressing CTRL + ALT + F1 = terminal?04:40
Arv3nor is that a console.04:40
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-f1 = console #104:40
daSkreechvamp898: Oh yeah but that's less gratifying04:40
Arv3nright right.04:40
newsense07vamp898: never knew cntrl+esc shortcut to process list, nice04:40
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Arv3nwooow.04:40
nonewmsgsi see them in my k menu but i have xfce, gnome and kde (k is my newest try and im loving it)04:40
Arv3nctrl + esc cool loel04:41
Arv3nyou should just install kubuntu for less bloat. =/04:41
aftermathno more trying random key combinations i see in irc04:41
daSkreechnonewmsgs: try alt+space04:41
aftermathwhat was the command again?04:41
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aftermathto see a list of hardware?04:41
nonewmsgskatapult?04:41
daSkreechaftermath: lshw04:41
daSkreechnonewmsgs: Yeah do that and type the name of a program like amarok04:41
Arv3nlspci?04:41
kloplopwhat or where is the file that is runned when logging in?04:42
Arv3n?04:42
Arv3nhold04:42
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Arv3ncd /usr/share/autostart04:42
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daSkreech!autostart04:43
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.04:43
Arv3nif thats what you mean.04:43
kloplopas in like a bash script that runs after a sucsessfull login04:43
Arv3noh.04:43
daSkreechkloplop: there are a large number of files04:43
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Arv3nuh, i think you should copy that to /usr/share/autostart or ~.kde/Autostart04:43
kloplopwell obvoiusly04:43
daSkreechYou may be looking for ~/.bash_profile04:43
Arv3ni dont understand.04:43
Arv3nwhats he asking?04:43
Arv3nwell guys.04:44
Arv3nit looks like kubuntu is quickly catching up with ubuntu. =)04:44
kloplopI think that the kcontrol-autostart might help just a sec let me check it out04:44
Arv3nlooking much more polished lately.04:44
newsense07Arv3n: i started with ubuntu but hate gnome so i converted04:44
Arv3ndont get me started on gnome. =/04:44
Arv3nthey REALLY aren't going anywhere.04:45
aftermaththanks, daSkreech04:45
newsense07Arv3n: even ordered a kubuntu cd to replace the ubuntu stickers i got04:45
Arv3nlol.04:45
Arv3nwhats hte difference between the dvd and cd?04:45
Arv3nbecause i see a dvd version, but it doesnt look different than the cd version.04:45
newsense07i got no dvd-rom so i have no idea04:45
Arv3nshmeh.04:45
daSkreechArv3n: it has all of main on it04:45
Arv3nall of main? as in the repo?04:46
daSkreechfol bun04:46
daSkreechYes04:46
Arv3ninterseting.04:46
Arv3nisnt main huge, though?04:46
Arv3ni thought the dvd was only like 1 gig.04:46
Arv3nok, that answers my question, good for like offline or slow connection ppls.04:47
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daSkreech4 Gb04:48
kloplopis there a way for me to use the workgroup network in my house like in windows, Ex: printing and file sharing?04:48
daSkreechYeah04:48
stdin~4.4GB04:48
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daSkreechstrange that the larger download is better for sloe connections04:48
stdinArv3n: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/feisty/release/kubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.list < DVD file list04:48
Biovore!samba04:49
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:49
Arv3nnooonono.04:49
Arv3nyou buy the dvd. =P04:49
Arv3nnot download it. -_-04:49
stdinArv3n: that's just the file list, not the iso...04:49
Arv3ni was talking to daskreech04:49
Arv3n-_-04:49
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Arv3nwhy arent there any apps in here?04:50
Arv3n*ops04:50
Arv3nlol04:50
daSkreechIn.... IRC ?04:50
Arv3nyeah.04:50
Biovorethere are.. they just become ops unless they need to do an admin thing..04:50
Arv3nit says 0 ops04:50
daSkreechOh ops04:50
Arv3noh.04:50
stdinthey are hiding ;)04:50
Biovorehehe04:50
Arv3nniiice.04:50
daSkreechIf needed they are there04:50
daSkreechtame bug04:50
Arv3nso like if i screamed a random word.04:51
Arv3nlike something.. bad.04:51
daSkreechthen I'd have to smack you04:51
Arv3nnou04:51
stdinyou can scream all you want, just don't type it in :)04:51
Arv3nlol.04:51
Arv3nthen id be in even bigger trouble.04:51
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Arv3nif i just started screaming penis, my dad would be like wtf.04:51
Arv3nit'd be a weird moment04:52
daSkreechGood bonding04:52
Biovorelol04:52
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soulriderhello04:54
soulrideranyone here running kde4 ?04:54
Arv3ngood bonding?04:55
Arv3nare you kidding me?04:55
Arv3nhed probably be like "are you alright, son?"04:55
Arv3nactually, hes taking some medicine.04:55
Arv3nso i could say he was hallucinating. LOL04:55
Dasnipa`_pfft04:56
Arv3nlmfao.04:56
Arv3nthis guy was on the fence04:56
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Arv3ntrying to rob a home and he got stuck.04:56
Arv3nand he was there for 45 mins04:56
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Arv3nholding himself up with his strength04:57
stdin!ot | Arv3n04:57
ubotuArv3n: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:57
Arv3ni didnt know kubuntu had an offtopic channel. =X04:57
Arv3ni thought that was a sabayon linux thing.04:57
Dasnipa`_Arv3n: TWSS04:57
Arv3ntwss = ?04:57
Dasnipa`_Arv3n> holding himself up with his strength: TWSS, thats what she said04:57
Arv3n??04:57
Arv3ngood lord no.04:58
Arv3n!google test04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google test - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:58
Arv3ncool. =D04:58
Arv3nthat could come in handy.04:58
Arv3nthis irc channel is much smaller than ubuntu.04:59
daSkreech!factoids04:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:59
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Arv3nfinally, done downloading 459MB of updates.04:59
Arv3nat 160kb/s. =X04:59
daSkreechTime to upgrade to Gutsy :-)04:59
Arv3nyou? or me?05:00
daSkreechthen 4 weeks later upgrade to hardy :)05:00
daSkreechYou :)05:00
Arv3nhardy.05:00
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Arv3nidno about that.05:00
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daSkreech!hardy05:00
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ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04-LTS, due April 2008. For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron05:00
Arv3nnoo.05:00
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Arv3ni dont know if im going to upgrade to hardy so soon.05:00
Dasnipa`_daSkreech: the hardly boys05:00
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aftermathhow do I write to a mounted ntfs?05:00
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Arv3nntfs-3g?05:00
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ardchoille!ntfs05:02
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:02
aftermath!ntfs-3g05:02
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:02
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orinHow do I select a USB microphone as the microphone input device for the system?05:05
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daSkreechorin: ahh right USB05:10
orinThe system detects my AK5370 properly.05:11
Dr_willisone of those neat gizmos that can cuase so many problems. :)05:11
orinIt worked on an older Gentoo system of mine.05:12
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TannI have set Kubuntu to mount a partition on boot, but now it is trying to boot off that partition. How do I make it not boot from that partition?05:22
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daSkreechTann: from your menu.lst file05:23
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TanndaSkreech: How do I get to it if Linux isn't booted yet? Use a live CD?05:24
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khaijei'm having issues getting my new bluetooth stereo headset to work, doesn't seem to want to pair05:25
khaijeany info about this?05:25
ardchoilleTann: You can use a live cd, boot the proper partition and then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file05:25
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daSkreech!bluetooth05:25
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:25
daSkreechardchoille: technically he can jsut edit the grub menu directly05:26
khaijedaSkreech: i think i'm already past that tut05:26
daSkreechassuming that Tann is a he05:26
ardchoilledaSkreech: True, but I never learned how to do that05:26
mmmiiikkkeeewhat is the difference between the generic kernel and the 386 one???05:26
klobsterplease no one recommend envy to anyone.  I have spent the last week solving the problems it caused.05:26
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khaijeklobster: whats wrong w/ it?05:27
stdinmmmiiikkkeee: 386 is optimised for the i386 cpu, generic will optimise itself to your cpu05:27
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TanndaSkreech: Thanks05:28
nonewmsgsthe weird thing is 386 is way too slow for ubuntu/kubuntu05:29
stdinit's not too old or slow, just not as fast as newer ones. I know people who run KDE on 600MHz CPUs just fine05:29
klobsterkhaije: long story short, I used it to uninstall my nvidia driver, and it borked something, and it's taken me a week to clean up the mess.  I imagine if envy is the first and only place they go, they will be fine, but I am sure that most people (like me) have other tweaks going on that they won't remember about.  And then they are hosed.05:30
nonewmsgsi mean an i386 which had speeds from 16mhz-~50Mhz05:30
mmmiiikkkeeeif i have a Pentium 3 i should still use the generic?05:30
kloplopis there any way I can run dos games on here05:30
stdinmmmiiikkkeee: generic is for everyone05:30
nonewmsgsyes pentium 3 uses generic05:30
stdinnonewmsgs: some servers would use 386 still05:31
khaijeklobster: envy is foss nvidia gfx accell right? sounds like it's the install script rather than the whole project, no?05:31
daSkreech!dosbox05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dosbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:31
daSkreech!info dosbox05:31
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB05:31
stdinnonewmsgs: tho there is a -server kernel05:31
beanskloplop: try dosbox05:31
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klobsterkhaije: yeah pretty much, but it's lookin like it wants to follow suit with automatix05:32
klobster!automatix05:32
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:32
nonewmsgsinteresting stdin05:32
daSkreech!easyubuntu05:33
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu05:33
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stdin!envy05:33
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!05:33
nonewmsgsenvy is dangerous? i hadn't heard that before05:33
stdinit can be, yes05:35
klobsterthanks ubotu, someone in here recommended envy to me, and where where you then?05:35
stdin!bot05:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:35
gustavowhats the best way to secure a web server?05:36
klobsterstdin: I know, I was trying to be funny05:36
stdingustavo: by not allowing access to it :p05:36
purpleposeidon!lol05:36
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.05:36
daSkreechgustavo: thoroughly05:36
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stdingustavo: keep up to date and use a firewall too05:37
gustavobesides that 'option'05:37
gustavostdin: i mean, chroot it, and something else?05:37
mmmiiikkkeeei never understood the point of envy... it seems like its trys to do what should be done with respotories/apt-get....why do people waist time makeing this envy script and not just package the stuff in the respotiries(or make there own respotory?)??....ps i have never used envy though..05:37
stdingustavo: chroot is good, don't load any "modules" you don't need also05:37
purpleposeidongustavo: make sure all of your cgi programs are safe05:37
khaije1mmmiiikkkeee: seems like a no-brainer doesn't it? i can only assume this will change if ther project has value and is sincere05:39
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MexflubberHey how can I install x-chat in kubuntu ?05:40
stdinby just installing it05:40
stdinwith Adept/apt05:40
Mexflubberhow do I do that ?05:40
Mexflubberwhat do I type in Konsole?05:40
gustavothanks ppl...05:41
stdinsudo apt-get install xchat05:41
ubunturossudo apt-get install x-chat-gnome05:41
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ubunturoscorrection xchat-gnome*05:41
Mexflubberdoes it run in Kubuntu ?05:42
stdinsure05:42
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ubunturosMexflubber: it might require a few GNOME libraries05:42
ubunturosMexflubber: apt-get should take care of that though05:42
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stdinall gnome/gtk apps run in kubuntu and all kde/Qt apps run in Ubuntu05:43
ubunturosMexflubber: you could actually install the GNOME desktop as well (variety) ;)05:44
MexflubberLOL xD05:44
Mexflubberty I'm helping a friend by phone btw ... lol05:44
stdinnot to mention xfce, fluxbox or any other DE05:44
daSkreechAnd E apps?05:45
ubunturosdaSkreech: you mean, for the enlightment wm?05:45
daSkreechyup05:45
daSkreechno love for that? :)05:46
ubunturosheh05:46
MexflubberWhy when I'm compilling a C programm it tells me It can't found the libraries ? also syntax is Ok !05:46
nonewmsgsthere's something to apt-get05:46
stdinMexflubber: have you installed the librarys -dev packages and build-essential ?05:46
nonewmsgsbuild essentials thats what i was tihnking of05:47
Mexflubberstdin : don't know .. how do I check that ?05:47
mmmiiikkkeeemy computer has to use an older kernel, but 2.6.17 is not available in fiesty resptory... i added dapper's resptories to my sources.list... it worked but is there a more prefered way to install older packages?05:47
daSkreech!b-e05:47
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:47
nonewmsgs!botsnack05:47
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:47
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daSkreechmmmiiikkkeee: has ot?05:47
stdinMexflubber: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to grab all the standard C/C++ devel packages05:47
mmmiiikkkeeewhat is ot?05:47
daSkreechhas to?05:48
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purpleposeidonWhen I'm compiling something, I run ./configure; and then do apt-cache search on whatever dependencies it's missing, then install it and the -dev version05:48
Mexflubberwhen doing apt-get install xchat it tells me to check the "universe" component is installed05:48
Mexflubberwhy ?05:48
mmmiiikkkeeeany kernel newer panics05:49
stdinMexflubber: probably because you don't have the universe repository enabled05:49
stdin!repos | Mexflubber05:49
ubotuMexflubber: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:49
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mmmiiikkkeeeor just gives a lot of errors05:49
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brianbaetzhello05:50
brianbaetzhelo05:50
mmmiiikkkeee*any of the newer kernels panic; or give errors about lvm or about my cdromdrive05:51
klobsterhe could have said hello to himself anywhere.  I for one, am grateful he did it here.05:51
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newphazehi05:51
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newphazehow do I take a screeny ?05:52
purpleposeidonnewphaze: Prt Sc. :P05:52
newphazewhy doesn't Kubuntu have a screenshot available of th...05:52
newphazepurpleposeidon: k thanks05:52
newphazepurpleposeidon: and then?05:52
klobsternewphaze: did you hit the printscreen key?05:53
purpleposeidonwell, it's supposed to run ksnapshot anyways05:53
newphazeklobster: ah I see an app bouncing05:53
Arv3nHai!05:53
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Arv3nHow do I get the Plasma theme/Oxygen icons and what not?05:53
newphazeawsome!! better than m$$hit05:53
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purpleposeidonHey! We don't like it when you bash Microsoft in this channel! >:O05:54
ardchoillepurpleposeidon: Then you might be in the wrong channel05:54
purpleposeidon....but seriously, I think that's the first time I've typed m$ out in.....several years05:54
Arv3npretty sure that was a joke.05:54
Arv3nsaying microshit and microshaft is just stupid.05:55
ardchoille<-- old man, doesn't get many jokes :(05:55
Arv3npeople that feel like typing that can rot in hell.05:55
Arv3nhow do i get the oxygen icons and the kde4 theme and what not?05:55
ardchoilleI got that one, tho05:55
stdin!language | just a reminder05:55
ubotujust a reminder: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:55
Arv3ni had a script that worked.05:56
Arv3nbut i think they changed the svn location or something.05:56
Arv3nand onw it says the svn is invalid.. like the location cant be found.05:56
newphazeardchoille: ROFL!! thanks for standing up to nonsense. I REALLY do not understand that politically m$$$ correctness/respect attitude05:56
stdinArv3n: look on kde-look.org05:56
Arv3nthere is only a script. =/05:56
ardchoilleArv3n: Go to http://www.kde-look.org and do a search for oxygen, there's tons of stuff05:56
klobsterpurpleposeidon: I believe tat thanks was for you...05:57
Arv3nsvn: URL 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen' doesn't exist05:57
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ardchoilleArv3n: There are scripts at kde-look.org too05:58
Arv3nyeah, there isnt much.05:58
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Arv3nand those were the ones i was using.05:58
Arv3nit doesnt work. =/05:58
Arv3nit gives me that the svn doesnt exist.05:58
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Arv3nnevermind, got it. =O05:59
Arv3nyay now i must download 60 mb.05:59
newphazeok is not working05:59
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newphaze I need to take a screeny of a pulled down menu of Firefox and when I press NEW Screenshot I can't press the button06:00
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newphazeand I am trying this with the REGION option06:00
ardchoillenewphaze: Set the delay and try again06:00
newphazek06:00
purpleposeidonHave you considered trying it with the DELAY OPTION....06:00
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ardchoillenewphaze: delay + window under cursor?06:01
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newphazeis not doing what I a want it do really06:10
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jagcorvairI have the wireless card enabled on the laptop. I can manipulate the numbers. For some strange reason, it won't see the wireless router. Any clues?06:13
cjehi, I am dual-booting openSUSE and Kubuntu.  I'm kinda worried, though, because when I boot into kubuntu, my hard drive light stays illuminated continuously.  I'm not sure why.  Also, i do experience a wee bit of a lag on using Kino to play video.  This box has 4 GB of RAM, and an AMD dual-core 3800 chip, so it should have the horsepower to handle it.  Thanks in advance for any help.06:13
daSkreechjagcorvair: iwlist <tab> scan06:13
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newphazeI've might discovered a bug on Ksnapshot06:15
newphaze"Section Window" works fine with Opera yet is horrible with firefox06:15
newphazecan someone file that as a bug?06:15
daSkreechCause Opera is qt06:15
jagcorvairdaSkreech: eth1 No scan results06:16
daSkreechjagcorvair: then It can'e see the AP06:17
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jagcorvairI'm in the same room as the AP, daSkreech06:17
newphazecmon!! why is so damn difficul takind aa screen of a menu??06:17
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newphazeand with Region won't work 'cause won't open the menu06:18
jagcorvairOther wireless laptop can see it06:18
daSkreechnewphaze: just use the app06:18
daSkreechjagcorvair: Is the wireless on?06:18
daSkreechsome have a kill switch06:18
newphazeand with window doesn't work either cause as soon as press new screenshot the drop down disappears06:18
newphazedaSkreech: I am06:18
jagcorvairYes06:19
jagcorvairIt is enabled06:19
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daSkreechnewphaze: what delay are you using?06:20
newphazedaSkreech: I've tried with 1,2 and 3 seconds06:20
ardchoillenewphaze: Set the delay, press new screenshot, then drop the menu down and wait for the screenshot to be taken.06:20
newphazeastonishingly region does NOT give me delay option. How retarded is that?06:21
newphazeI do'06:21
newphazeI don't want a screenshot of the entire screen06:21
newphazejust a simple menu06:22
newphazeis that THAT hard?06:22
ardchoillenewphaze: Scetion of window?06:22
ardchoilleBarring that, take a whole screenshot then edit in the gimp06:22
ananth123why dont u crop it later ?06:22
maigkeexit06:23
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newphazeOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!06:23
newphazewhy should I do an EXTRA step?06:23
newphazeit's not working06:24
ardchoillenewphaze: because you are smarter than the ksnapshot developer?06:24
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newphazethat option is there for something and it's NOT working06:24
ananth123cuz the developers cant foreseen the whims of *all* the users ?06:24
ananth123then file a bug report :)06:24
ardchoilleI like ananth123's reply better06:24
daSkreechActually I can't take a screenshot of a menu either06:25
ardchoilleananth123: I think if all devs foresaw the whims of all users, every app would fill a hd06:25
daSkreechardchoille: rm ?06:25
purpleposeidon*EMACS* COUGH COUGH06:25
newphazeyou see I am not the only one06:26
daSkreechHmm no wait I can06:26
newphazeby the way that's not a helpful commentary06:26
ananth123well, i just tried it out with the delay option06:26
daSkreechYeah me too06:26
ananth123and i could take a screenshot WITH the menu06:26
daSkreechI got one of just the menu06:26
ardchoille"Window under cursor" works here06:26
newphazeit should be, "Why doesn't the developer fix and offer a workable app"?06:26
newphazeis Kubuntu  supposed to be a GOOD linux distro "out of the box"?06:27
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ardchoillenewphaze:  http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7586/preview1ua1.png06:27
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newphazeardchoille: this is specificcally with Firefox06:28
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ardchoillenewphaze: You really can't judge an entire distro by the features of a single app06:29
newphazeKsnapshot is broken with Firefox, period. Shouldn't be availabe for Fiesty06:29
pillowpantsis it safe to remove kubuntu-desktop package?06:29
ardchoillenewphaze: You're mixing kde apps and a non-kde app, not the dev's fault.06:29
stdinnewphaze: no it's not, works fine06:29
ardchoillepillowpants: yes, it's just a met-package06:29
pillowpantsoh, ok06:29
pillowpantsi was removing kopete06:30
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stdinnewphaze: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9341/test1zd9.jpg < works06:30
newphazefor instance, why can't I set DELAY with region? That's the MOST obvious in order to be able to have time to drop down the menu and then select that. Yet when  you select region delay is grayed out. Clap, clap, clap... Someone out there got real brains06:30
BigDaddyhowdy again fols06:31
BigDaddyfolks06:31
ardchoillenewphaze: You're mixing kde apps and a non-kde app, not the dev's fault.06:31
newphazestdin: o.O how did you it?06:31
newphazethat's exactly what I am tryinna do :-(06:31
stdinnewphaze: with the window under cursor option06:31
ardchoillestdin: I tried to tell him that06:31
daSkreechYeah that's how I did it as well06:32
stdinardchoille: I know06:32
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newphazeahh thanks GOD for stdin !!!06:33
daSkreechnewphaze: and the ksnapshot developer?06:33
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newphazeyou've solve the problem with Firefox!! Should tell the dev also06:33
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ardchoillelol06:33
deichgrafhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3umKwji6ncw06:33
ananth123newphaze: the region has no delay because you are supposed to select the region *outside* the ksnapshot window... if you click outside you will see a red box to select the region06:34
ananth123its not a bug, its a feature :)06:34
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BigDaddyhey, anyone here an Opera browser user?06:34
cjeBigDaddy, I use it occasionally, what's up?06:35
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BigDaddyI am just curious why it isn't in the repositories thats all06:35
daSkreech!opera06:35
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser06:35
stdinBigDaddy:  because that'd be illegal06:35
daSkreechBigDaddy: It is but not in the default repos06:36
deichgrafI'll never post again stupid links.06:36
BigDaddyillegal?06:36
BigDaddyIt's freeware right?06:36
ananth123yes, its free06:36
stdinBigDaddy: canonical don't have permission to redistrobute opera (it's license forbids 3rd party distribution)06:36
ananth123check www.opera.com06:36
ardchoilleBigDaddy: Is the source freely available?06:36
BigDaddyaha...06:36
daSkreechBigDaddy: That doesn't mean anything if it's with beer06:36
stdinOpera is Closed Source06:36
BigDaddywell now, but I don't think that nvidia-settings is open source either is it?06:36
Hueywhy is it that on a newly formatted partition, linux says 198mb is used?06:36
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cute_bettonghi i downloaded the kubuntu version for  AMD64 and installed it it booted fine and then when i updated it frezzes after saying something about kernal mapping v.v i had to his esc at boot to go into the previous version of the kernal can anyone help me to troubleshoot this issue? o .o06:37
Hueyeven though no files are in the partition06:37
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ardchoilleHuey: Some space is set aside for system use06:37
stdinHuey: a certain percentage is reserved for the super user and for the journal06:37
Hueyardchoille: since this is just a data partition, is there a way to override this?06:38
daSkreechBigDaddy: but the license allows limited redistribution06:38
Hueyi thought i used tune2fs to get rid of the reserved space06:38
stdinallows root to login when the partition is "full" to free some space06:38
daSkreechBigDaddy: in any case you can apt-get it06:38
BigDaddyGotcha daSkreech...06:38
ardchoilleHuey: Not sure, never tried.06:38
BigDaddyapt-get Opera?06:38
daSkreechyes06:38
stdinHuey: some will still be used for the journal, or it wouldn't be ext306:38
ardchoillestdin: Thank you, I never knew that about root login on a full part06:38
BigDaddyyou lost me there. I thought that Synaptic and apt-get were the same thing only a GUI vs CLI06:39
stdinBigDaddy: they are06:39
ardchoilleBigDaddy: synaptic uses APT as its back end06:39
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BigDaddythen why can I apt-get Opera but not use Synaptic? Synaptic only use Canonical?06:39
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daSkreechBigDaddy: you can use synaptic06:41
newphazestill Ksnapshot should have the possibility to take screenshots of menu trees06:41
cute_bettonganyone have any answer to my question?06:41
cute_bettongo.o06:41
newphazeyou know what I mean?06:41
BigDaddyI must not have the correct repositories then.06:41
stdinBigDaddy: Opera is only in the "commercial" repository hosted on canonical   "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ feisty-commercial main"06:41
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daSkreechnewphaze: It can06:41
newphazeand region should have delay option as well06:42
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Still no luck with the wireless. What do you suggest?06:42
stdinnewphaze: it does, I just showed you06:42
newphazethat's kinda unacceptable06:42
daSkreechcute_bettong: reinstal the kernel?06:42
newphazestdin: I mean COMPLETE tree06:42
BigDaddyI am only in the comparison mode ATM. So far I am really likeing Konq. There are just a few quirks so far.06:42
cute_bettongO_o06:42
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newphazenot just one section of the drop down menu06:42
stdinnewphaze: then take a screen shot of the screen and crop it06:42
wershow do I make systray icons smaller?06:42
snowdonkeyHey.  I'm trying to compile a program that requires gnome-python, but I can't find it in Ubuntu repositories.  I've enabled all the repositories manually.  Can anyone else find package?06:42
newphazefor instance view>drop down men> toolbars06:43
stdinnewphaze: don't like it? then ask the author to do something about it or change it yourself. complaining here will do nothing to change it06:43
ardchoillesnowdonkey: You mean python-gtk ?06:44
newphazeotherwise how on earth do you know where the hell that particular drop down menu belongs to? View, File, Edit...?06:44
stdinsnowdonkey: python-gnome2-dev maybe ?06:44
snowdonkeynewphaze: The program's read me says gnome-python, and I assume it's this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/source/gnome-python06:44
newphazestdin: I am only voicing my experience after 4 hours trying to do what I a want06:44
newphazeand not working obviously06:44
jagcorvairI am in the same room as the AP, but still will not see it on the laptop. What am I doing wrong?06:45
stdinnewphaze: it does work, just not exactly how you want it to06:45
ardchoillenewphaze: 4 hours? Wow, I would have gave up, taken a full screen and cropped it after 15 minutes.06:45
newphazealso I don't know how to code, so fixing it myself is pretty much outta the question06:45
stdinnewphaze: then take the 1st option, ask the author to change it or file a bug06:46
snowdonkeynewphaze: lol, thx you're right.  called python-gnome  :)06:46
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BigDaddyOK, here is a real question. Do you guys know a good printing troubleshooting guide website?06:46
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ardchoille!print06:47
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:47
ardchoilleBigDaddy: Try one of those06:47
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greennickhas anyone else had disastrous boot experiences with the Feisty live install CD?06:48
BigDaddyI installed a Canon MP160 and the scanner works, but the printing is no go06:48
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BigDaddylooking them up now06:48
newphazestdin: you are right, I might point out the issue to the dev, because I am trying to create a quide for some ppl and with my idas it would be a faster more efficient way.06:49
newphazeThanks all06:49
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ardchoillegreennick: I've install from the Feisty livecd on 30+ computers and never seen a problem.06:49
daSkreechjagcorvair: Have you ever gotten the computer on before?06:49
ananth123greennick: what problem did u have ?06:49
daSkreechjagcorvair: Wait have you read the troubleshotting guide?06:50
greennickarchoille:  hmm...  i tried installing it on a fresh drive (i've got working ubuntus on two other drives), and now nothing will boot past grub06:50
ananth123greennick: what error msg did u get, if any ?06:50
daSkreechgreennick: From time to time06:50
greennickjagcorvair:  yeah, i've got two other operating ubuntu disks here (both dapper), all hardware works fine, but something in this process hosed me06:50
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jagcorvairdaSkreech: I've followed the manual's steps for setting up the driver. That's golden.06:51
daSkreech!WIFI | jagcorvair06:51
ubotujagcorvair: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:51
greennickananth123:  at first i got nothing but hung blank screens with "_" cursors (no grub loading, nothing), then i used the live cd to boot and grub-install - now i can get to the grub menu but it gives me a "file not found" for the kernels06:52
jagcorvairdaSkreech: It hasn't worked since I put Feisty06:52
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jagcorvairgreennick: I installed Kubuntu from the free shipit CD06:52
ananth123which partition is your installation ?06:52
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ardchoillegreennick: Did you change anything with the partitions?06:53
greennickananth123: i'm on 3 disks - my feisty installation is on sdc106:53
ananth123its strange but a minor fix would be to boot using your live cd and checking if grub's menu.lst entries correspond to the files installed on your hard disk06:53
greennickarchoille: yes, i started feisty on a completely blank drive and partitioned it using the feisty live cd06:54
greennickananth123:  yeah, i was just doing that...i haven't noticed any problems there06:54
daSkreechjagcorvair: what chipset?06:55
ardchoilleananth123: Could this be a UUID problem being that he has multiple disks?06:55
greennicki'm wondering if i've somehow mixed up the references of (hd0,0) - (hd2,0) between my BIOS and my grub menu.lst06:55
ananth123i dont know much about uuid :(06:55
ardchoillesame here06:55
greennicki did play with my BIOS to change the boot disk - NONE of the three boot now.  : (06:56
ardchoillegreennick: I think i'd first make sure bios is set to boot the correct hd06:56
greennickardchoille:  are you talking about disk jumpers?  uuid?06:56
ardchoillegreennick: no06:56
ardchoille!uuid06:56
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)06:56
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Dell 1390 in a Compaq laptop (go fif)06:56
ananth123ubotu: i got a seg fault at the end.... hmmmmmmmmm06:57
ardchoille!bot06:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:57
greennickardchoille:  ok...  i see those references in grub/menu.lst, i can make them relative references (root=/dev/sdc5) instead06:57
jagcorvair!botsnack06:57
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:57
ananth123brb... gotta reboot06:58
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greennickardchoille:  i don't know if it makes a difference, all my disks are SATA drives (but two of them also ran just fine before under dapper)06:59
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Why does the Default Gateway always default to 0.0.0.006:59
jagcorvair?06:59
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greennickthe super-weird part is that i can't boot even my old disks now06:59
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daSkreechDunno how do you have your network setup? DHCP?07:00
jagcorvairDHCP Automatic07:00
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kirkHey people07:06
klobster!hi07:08
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:08
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Tw|sT:)07:08
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jagcorvairdaSkreech: Troubleshooting is for the PCMCIA cards. This is an internal card07:11
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daSkreechjagcorvair: Works the same way. try the troubleshooting guide07:11
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StygianAgendathe services here just work differently for linking than what I'm used to (espernet IRC services)07:15
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File13_i installed my nividia graphics driver but where do i go to enable it so i can use beryl07:20
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File13_on gnome it came up and said restricted driver manager but i dont see anything like that07:20
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esper] hello07:23
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esper] does anyone know how i can get my usb head set working?07:23
daSkreechJucato: ummm07:24
daSkreechewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww07:24
djdarkmanFile13_: you need to install beryl first07:24
djdarkmanesper] : never heard of usb headsets and why it`s good :)07:25
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Followed the troubleshooting link. It didn't work. I cannot do anything wireless07:25
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File13_i installed beryl07:27
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Jucato!nvidia07:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:28
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File13_i already installed them...i just need to know how to enable it07:28
Jucatotry System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Hardware tab?07:29
nzkWhy must I be tortured so? Firefox is the third app to suddenly stop working. First it was Liferea, and then Pidgin. When I type the command to open them, the loading thing next to the cursor shows and then it just disappears. The programs never open.07:29
Jucatothat happens to me sometimes with Firefox too. usually the 2nd or 3rd time I try really runs it07:29
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Jucatonzk: have you tried Akregator?07:30
purpleposeidonA gtk program stoll my mouse... :(07:30
JucatoI tried Liferea during my short stint in GNOME... I ended up using Akregator in GNOME :)07:30
daSkreechjagcorvair: where does it fail ?07:30
purpleposeidonthe cursor looks like an L with a + in it. And when I run xkill, it says unable to grab cursor07:31
BigDaddyWOOT107:31
nzkJucato: That's not the point. It's that my most used programs are dropping like flies.07:31
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nzkI could deal with switching to Akregator, and I was hesistant but switched to Kopete. But Konquerer is where I draw the line. I will NOT use that.07:31
daSkreechnzk: open them from the konsole07:31
jagcorvairdaSkreech: 28%07:31
purpleposeidonnzk: run them from the command line first, see what the ouput says for them07:31
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jagcorvairInitializing07:31
Daisuke_Laptopor just use gnome :)07:31
Daisuke_Laptop>_>07:31
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daSkreechJucato: Why?07:31
Daisuke_Laptop<_<07:31
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nzkpurpleposeidon: No output.07:32
BigDaddyardchoille - took me an hour but I got it07:32
purpleposeidonokay, irritating. I have mostly no mouse....07:32
daSkreechjagcorvair: Oh is it an open point?07:32
wersJucato is backkk07:32
jagcorvairdaSkreech: No wireless network found. Click on "Connect ot Other Wireless Network..."?07:32
purpleposeidonnzk: try reinstalling them...07:32
nzkpurpleposeidon: I did that.07:32
jagcorvairThis is where I am stuck at 28% every time07:32
JucatodaSkreech: why what? where?07:32
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daSkreechJucato: Why didn't you use Lifera?07:33
BigDaddyoh, he's gone07:33
jagcorvairdaSkreech: open point?07:33
nzkThey all have the same problems -- They're all GTK apps that suddenly died, have no output at console, nothing with ltrace, and cannot be reincarnated by reinstalling.07:33
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daSkreechIt's your fault!07:33
BigDaddyWell, to anyone who cares. I got my printer to work even though they said it was a paperweight07:33
daSkreechjagcorvair: does it have a password?07:33
JucatodaSkreech:  <Jucato> I tried Liferea during my short stint in GNOME... I ended up using Akregator in GNOME :)07:33
jagcorvairnope07:33
daSkreechBigDaddy: Whoot :007:33
BigDaddyhell yeah07:33
nzkWoah...07:33
nzkFirefox just worked.07:33
daSkreechJucato: Yes. Why07:33
nzkNevermind.07:34
BigDaddyyou wanna know why was weird?07:34
BigDaddyI had to use GNOME printer config for it to work07:34
JucatodaSkreech: um.. because I tried GNOME?07:34
wersI use akregator and google reader07:34
BigDaddyMan, I am unstoppable tonight07:34
daSkreechJucato: Right. and what did you not like about Lifera?07:34
JucatoI stopped using gReader months ago.. imagine having no search! but now that they have one, I'm too lazy to try again07:34
JucatodaSkreech: hm.. I forgot. that was last year07:35
Jucatosooo last year07:35
esper] anyone know how i can check if a usb head set is even detected?07:35
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Nope. No password07:36
JucatodaSkreech: ah I think I remember one. it didn't have an embedded web browser in it. so if the feed only posted summaries, I still have to launch a browser07:36
JucatoI think07:36
Daisuke_Laptopesper] : check your mixer and see if it shows up in the devices07:36
Daisuke_Laptopmy logitech does07:36
daSkreechjagcorvair: Put one on. No idea but that makes it work07:36
daSkreechYou can take it off afterwards07:36
BigDaddySince I am on a roll, is there a way to better organize the KDE menus? Is it all text based or is there an app?07:36
esper] Daisuke_Laptop: how exactly do i do that?07:36
Daisuke_Laptopesper] : open kmix07:37
JucatoBigDaddy: right-click on the K Menu icon,07:37
daSkreechJucato: Ugh. no Gparts?07:37
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JucatodaSkreech: no Bonobo07:37
Daisuke_Laptop(it should already be in your tray, the volume control)07:37
BigDaddydamn, that can't be right07:37
BigDaddyJucato - come on. There must be a difficult way to do this. I am from Windows man07:37
JucatoBigDaddy: um.. you can try.. um...07:38
BigDaddyDo I need to roll chicken bones?07:38
Jucatono can't think of anything :D07:38
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daSkreechBigDaddy: call Microsoft's Support line and get help in less than 4 minutes07:38
BigDaddyYa know, I have been trying to switch to linux (any flavor) for years. These past 3 days have been a blast07:39
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esper] Daisuke_Laptop: ok its detected and i turned up the sound.07:39
JucatoBigDaddy: goat sacrifice would be ok07:39
esper] Daisuke_Laptop: thanks, now hwo do i get output to the headset?07:39
BigDaddydaSkreech - 4 minutes? The sixties weren't kind to you were they?07:39
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daSkreechYou wanted a challenge07:39
BigDaddyOH OH! That was the challenge!07:39
BigDaddyNow I am with ya. That is not a challenge. That is what we call an improbability07:40
Daisuke_Laptopesper] : i'm not using kde right now, so i'm kinda guessing here...  there should be 'preferences; or something in one of the menus07:40
esper] im not using kde either, using xmonad07:40
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BigDaddyActually I think the Windows help manual is printed on a Mobius strip07:40
Daisuke_Laptopall it says is "reboot, reformat, reinstall"07:41
Daisuke_Laptopesper] : then i can probably not help07:41
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esper] hrmm07:42
esper] do you know how i can find the device name for it?07:42
esper] so i can force the systemsettings sound manager to point to it?07:42
jagcorvairdaSkreech: When trying to set it up, it gets stuck at 28%. Activation Stage: Configuring device07:42
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WaltzingAlongjagcorvair: the percentage is probably not the way to go since there are discrete steps involved07:43
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daSkreechjagcorvair: Put a wep password on the AP07:44
BigDaddyOOhh I got one for you guys. How about a graphical configuration tool for multibutton mice?07:44
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jagcorvairin process07:44
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Daisuke_Laptopthat would be nice07:45
BigDaddyOh, you mean I stumped them?07:46
Daisuke_Laptopthe mouse i got for my laptop is a logitech that has the tilt wheel...  the tilt didn't work without a hack07:46
BigDaddydamn, that would have been handy.07:46
BigDaddyI just like the back & forward buttons in my file manager07:46
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BigDaddyhmmm.... OOo doesn't want to leave my system07:48
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jagcorvairThat didn't work, daSkreech07:49
daSkreechjagcorvair: Hmm..07:49
daSkreechjagcorvair: You can probably connect on the command line to test it07:49
jagcorvairdaSkreech: Tried that. Still no luck07:50
daSkreechWhat did you try on the command line?07:50
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jagcorvairdaSkreech: Just about everything I found in the wiki07:51
BigDaddySince Synaptic is a GNOME app, what does Kubuntu use?07:52
daSkreech!adept07:52
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:52
Jucatoeeek!07:53
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BigDaddynot a fan Jucato?07:53
daSkreechjagcorvair: does iwlist eth1 scan give you a response now?07:53
JucatoBigDaddy: let's just say I have a love/hate relationship with it07:53
BigDaddySo far I am prefering the KDE experience by a long shot07:53
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BigDaddyGNOME is easier, but KDE is beautiful07:54
Jucatoin some ways, I would prefer to use even KPackage over Adept..07:54
Jucatotoo bad it's unmaintained...07:55
daSkreechJucato: Kynaptic!07:55
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BigDaddylol, what is Kynaptic?07:55
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daSkreechBigDaddy: Jucato just explained07:55
BigDaddylol, it's vomit eh?07:56
jagcorvairnone07:56
JucatoBigDaddy: an attempt to make Synaptic clone for KDE... or so it seems07:56
BigDaddy BIT POINTLESS07:56
BigDaddyoops07:56
BigDaddyorry07:56
Jucatono caps please :)07:56
BigDaddysorry07:56
Jucatots alright07:56
Jucatoit's alright07:56
BigDaddyyeah, I accidently hit the cool cruise control07:57
daSkreechjagcorvair: So what are you connecting to on the GUI?07:57
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jagcorvairI am on the desktop. My laptop has nothing.07:58
pillowpantshave any of you used slackware before?07:59
daSkreechOh the desktop can see the Wifi?07:59
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Smorganyone here try importing a bookmarks list from an ntfs partition?07:59
BigDaddySmorg, from what app?07:59
BigDaddyfirefox?08:00
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trixonHi, how do I get gimp 2.2 in swedish? I know it's tranlated and menu: Help - Help shows swedish info, but not the UI.08:09
pagtrixon, you should probably install some gnome's lanaguage packs08:10
pagtrixon, sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-sv  ?08:11
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Smorgyep ff08:13
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rick__hi, i'm using ubuntu for first time08:16
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daSkreech!hi08:16
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:16
daSkreechrick__: Welcome to Kubuntu08:16
rick__thanks, somebody  know about web sites where i can get software?08:17
pag!repos | rick__08:17
uboturick__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:17
trixonpag: ty, it did not work, had to install language-pack-sv too, its all ok now :)08:17
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pagtrixon, ok. I'm glad to hear that :)08:18
daSkreechrick__: Click on the K in the lower left corner and click on Add/remove programs08:18
rick__i already did that, but i;'m looking for smething to get a better apperiance08:19
daSkreechAh new themes?08:19
rick__yes new themes, me splash screen.. and all about that08:20
pagrick__, http://kde-look.org for new themes :)08:20
daSkreech!themes08:20
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:20
rick__thanks for your help :-)08:20
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rick__so, what news about free software??08:21
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daSkreech!news08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:21
daSkreechDrat :)08:21
daSkreechthere is the dot08:21
daSkreechhttp://dot.kde.org08:21
daSkreechLxer08:21
daSkreechhttp://lxer.com08:22
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pagrick__, fridge.ubuntu.com - dot.kde.org - linux.com - linux.slashdot.org etc...08:22
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rick__look i'm from peru, and the microsoft cancer is for everywhere08:22
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Jucato!away > Arv3n08:23
daSkreechglad to hear08:23
rick__dakSkreech, are you using Windows?08:24
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daSkreechNo08:24
rick__ah ok08:25
rick__what linux ?08:25
daSkreechKubuntu08:25
Biovoredeerrrr08:25
Biovore:-P08:25
rick__good08:25
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rick__you know about Richard Stallman?08:25
daSkreechBiovore: you'd be surprised if you took a poll how few people in here use Kubuntu08:25
daSkreech!info vrms08:26
ubotuvrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 108 kB08:26
daSkreech!stallman08:26
uboturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman08:26
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daSkreechI do now :)08:26
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rick__he was in my country about 2 or 3 weeks08:27
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daSkreech:-D08:27
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ananth123how/where do i set the default compile options ? for march etc ??? is there a make.conf ?08:28
daSkreechananth123: calm down there. What now?08:28
rick__and he spoke some interesting things08:28
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LopinI'm having some problems with the live disk booting...08:28
LopinIt's stalling when the kubuntu logo pops up...08:28
ananth123ok, i need to add the option -march while compiling any program automatically08:28
ananth123is there an easier way to do it that to manually add it ?08:29
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Lopin!hang08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
Lopin!hanging08:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hanging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:30
Lopin!boot08:30
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:30
pagLopin, try to launch without " quiet splash" -options and see, if it gives any reasonable error08:30
pillowpantsdoes anyone here use swiftweasel?08:30
LopinOkay...  Thanks!08:30
daSkreechLopin: try safe graphics08:30
daSkreechpillowpants: Which one is that again?08:30
pagLopin, or if it doesn't you'll at least will know when exactly it's hanging08:31
pillowpantsit think its an optimized build of firefox08:31
pillowpantsbut im asking to find out for sure08:31
LopinOkay...  What's happening is that when the Kubuntu logo with the progress bar pops up, it just stops, so I think the quiet, and splash may show me what's going on...08:31
LopinI come back, will someone help me?08:31
pagpillowpants, swiftweasel is 100% free optimised version of FF08:31
pagLopin, I'll help the best I can08:31
LopinThere's also IceWeasel...  But I only saw that on Knoppix 5...08:32
LopinBRB...08:32
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pillowpantspag: what use does it serve?08:32
pillowpantsi read its easier to get flash to install, using a script made by kilz08:33
pillowpantswhich is why im giving it a try08:33
pagpillowpants, well.. it's supposed to be faster than normal Firefox..08:33
daSkreechpillowpants: that sounds spurious08:33
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pillowpantsdaSkreech : what do you mean by spurious08:33
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daSkreechplain wrong :)08:34
LynoureI know this channel is for support for the released versions, but if any of you upgraded to gutsy already, could you msg me how you did it?08:34
pagpillowpants, usually those automatic scripts only lead to problems08:34
Lynoure(no one active on #ubuntu+1 seems to use Kubuntu)08:34
daSkreechLynoure: change the words feisty to gutsy in your sources.lst08:34
daSkreechLynoure: they don't need to it's the same way to upgrade for all versions08:35
pillowpantsim willing to try it, getting it to work on my own will invariably lead to more problems08:35
LynouredaSkreech: I tried to follow instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu08:35
daSkreechah08:35
daSkreechright08:35
pagLynoure, iirc Adept now has a fancy tool for dist-upgrades...but otoh it's Adept, so I'd suggest the text-based way08:35
LynouredaSkreech: and that terminated in the middle of the first step (preparing for upgrade)08:35
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BigDaddyyou know, I still haven't started modifying this KDE menu. IS there a way to reset it if I screw up?08:40
daSkreechBigDaddy: I never looked at an export for my menu...08:41
pagBigDaddy, yup. you'll just have to remove one file (I can't remember which one though) and it's back to defaults08:41
newphazewhy my gimp work is 50MB?08:41
BigDaddyRemove on file in my profile and it restores the menu? I can probably google that08:42
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daSkreechnewphaze: is it saaved as Gimps file format?08:42
newphazedaSkreech: wont even let me save. Tells me " could nott allocate memory"08:43
daSkreechnewphaze: How much space do you have free on the HDD?08:43
newphazedaSkreech: A LOT08:44
pagnewphaze, how about your RAM?08:45
newphaze512MB08:45
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streppelheya08:46
Lopinpog: okay...08:46
LopinIt's still not working...08:46
newphazeI've put several images on  my blaank page then I've merged all layers08:46
LopinI need to know why I can't use 64 bit, on my Turion64...08:46
pagLopin, hmm.. you got any errors?08:46
pagLopin, any reason, why you want to use 64bit?08:47
LopinWell, should I not?  I was given a 32 bit copy of vista...08:48
streppelmy compiz is running*smiles*    now i'd like to know how i can set the button that activates the shift switcher08:48
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LopinI'm sorry...  I'm still new...08:48
streppeli tryed klicking on the position but it dosn't seem to work :/08:48
LopinIs there any reason to use 64 bit, though?08:48
daSkreechLopin: You can if you want to. things which are closed source will be a headache08:48
daSkreechLike java and Flash08:48
LopinHmm...  Okay...08:48
daSkreechhopefully both will be open source soon08:48
LopinSo, will the 32 bit work slower on a 64 bit processor?08:49
LopinI don't know what 64 bit is actually like..08:49
pagLopin, 32bit is easier, and since there're no significant dpeed differences, I wouldn't really reccomend 64bit08:49
daSkreechLopin: more efficent, more registers so you can use more RAM, you sound sexier with more bits08:49
newphazeoh it worked now08:49
LopinOkay...08:49
daSkreechLopin: not really slower. just less efficent08:49
LopinWill I notice a difference?08:49
newphazebut why is my image 50MB? I want it like a few kilobits08:49
newphazeless than a 3 megs08:50
daSkreechLopin: I guess if you look for it08:50
daSkreechnewphaze: save for the web08:50
pagLopin, only if you do 3D rendering or something like that - yu won't in everyday use08:50
newphazeI cannot upload 50MB on an email08:50
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newphazedaSkreech: I saved as  PNG08:50
LopinHeh...  Okays...08:50
pagnewphaze, save it as .jpg?08:50
newphazeI weant png08:50
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LopinOkay... I can't remember, does the installer resize partitions?08:52
LopinOr, do I have to do that in windows first?08:52
JalathanDoes anyone know if wvdial's "Carrier check = no" command can be translated/transferred to kppp?08:53
daSkreechLopin: either. Whichever you are more comfortable with08:53
pagLopin, if you have Vista, you might want to resize from Windows - otherwise you can do it from livecd08:53
LopinOkay...08:53
newphazeoh actually it did save it as png but now is 150kb and horrible quality!!!08:54
emilsedghJalathan: I think thats 'Check for dial tone' option in kppp08:54
newphazeand I can't  undo  cause I closed GIMP08:54
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newphazeis it possible to decompress png image?08:54
newphazeor is pretty much undoable?08:54
Biovorepng is lossless compression08:55
newphazeoh never mind08:55
daSkreechBiovore: umm no I'ts lossy isn't it?08:55
newphazeit wasn't  zoomed to its original size08:55
pillowpantsi cant seem to get this shell script to run08:55
newphazeit's fine now!! and only 150kb !!08:56
daSkreechNope it's lossless08:56
pillowpantsin kde there doesnt seem to be a double click + run in terminal08:56
Biovorethere is an action option I think..08:56
newphazeWOW I'm a pro08:56
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newphazehow can I make a video guide like the ones in youtube? I don't want lameass webcam type08:57
newphazeI'd like direct screen recording08:58
Biovoreyou mean a screencast?08:58
newphazeyeah08:58
newphazesomething like that08:58
Biovorekrecordmydesktop is cool08:58
Biovoreor istanbul08:58
Biovore!istanbul08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:58
newphazewhich one is beeter?08:58
Biovorewell istanbul is installable from repos on feisty..08:58
Biovorekrecordmydesktop is only on gusty..08:58
BiovoreI like krecordmydesktop better..08:59
LopinWhy is there not enough room on a half full hard disk, to create a five gig partition?08:59
Biovorebut it dosn't grab 3d well..08:59
LopinI've got thrty gigs!08:59
Biovoredoing something wrong08:59
newphazeBiovore: that's aight, just need to record some website instructions09:00
newphazecan I add voice?09:00
newphazeI have a USB mic09:00
streppelhow can i set a button combination with tab in ccsm?09:00
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streppelnvm doubleclicking the name and writing xD09:01
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veddiecan i say something in thechannel?09:09
veddieok, good.09:09
gustavo:)09:09
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emilsedghI have a package for krecordmydesktop, anyone wants?09:11
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streppeli have one,too :P09:13
newphazekrecordmydesktop looks     cool. But why is only for Gutsby? I need it for Fesity09:14
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newphazeby the way the name is tooooooooooo long09:15
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newphazeand it s hardly a name is an entire sentence09:15
newphazethis would me more appropiate: kdeshot09:16
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kkathmannewphaze:  "this would me more.."   might need to work on your own sentences :)09:17
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streppelhow to run a specified progrom on a new xserver?09:17
kkathmanstreppel:  what program are you trying to run?09:17
streppela game with cedega09:18
streppelbut as i'm running compiz at the same time it doesn't start up09:18
streppeldo i need a new x where it can run,not?09:18
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kkathmanstop compiz I dunno - I see no need for windows proggies :)09:18
streppelgames :P09:19
kkathmanbah09:19
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streppel:/09:22
streppelanarchy onlines runs better under lin then win *lolz*09:22
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streppelmhh...... my game works now :D09:30
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kirk!nvu09:44
ubotukompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project.  It will be in the Ubuntu repos for 7.10 ("gutsy"); meanwhile for other versions add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe"  (pick your release and list it without brackets, and no quotes)09:44
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PhlogiI've downloaded the kubuntu dvd, do I need to take care when I burn the iso (on linux of course) so that the dvd is bootable afterwards?09:46
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normie_hello people09:49
kirkhi09:50
normie_has anyone succesfully configured their broadcom 1390 wireless card?09:50
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normie_it works with opensuse and ndiswrapper, but i can't seem to get it work with kubuntu09:51
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normie_hello09:54
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kirk!ADEPT09:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:55
kirkIn Adept when it says BROKEN under status, what does that mean?09:55
ag_wie bekommt man den skype unter kubuntu wieder los. das ding erscheint in keinem programmpaket09:55
Jucato!de | ag_09:56
ubotuag_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:56
streppel:P09:56
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Jucatokirk: it means that what you're trying to do could potentially cause some problems. try using the apt-get command to see more details09:58
BigDaddyugh, Opera blows09:58
BigDaddyDon't quite get why that one is so popular09:59
normie_has anyone succesfully configured their broadcom 1390 wireless card?09:59
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ag_how do in uninstall skype ?10:00
emilsedghnormie_: yes :)10:00
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emilsedghnormie_: I have it, working so nice, with ndiswrapper10:00
normie_well i tried the manual but nothing10:00
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emilsedghnormie_: do you have ndiswrapper?10:01
normie_yes10:01
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emilsedghnormie_: and, do you have the driver? is it .EXE ?10:02
normie_yep10:02
BigDaddyyou have a driver in EXE format?10:02
emilsedghnormie_: and you extracted it? thats a ZIP file in fact...you could open and extract it with ark10:02
normie_i even added the bcm4311 to the blacklist10:02
BigDaddyyou don't see anything wrong with that?10:02
normie_i extracted it with wine10:03
BigDaddyoh10:03
emilsedghnormie_: ndiswrapper -l whats the ourput?10:03
emilsedghs/ourput/output10:03
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normie_bcmwl5 : driver installed10:05
normie_        device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)10:06
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emilsedghdunno really, i easily setup my 1390 to work, do you want that i upload my driver that you try it?10:07
emilsedghnormie_: ^10:07
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normie_wel i have a hp laptop10:08
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normie_i works when i installed opensuse10:08
normie_but i want kubuntu :-)10:08
emilsedghnormie_: i have a dell :), shouldnt really be important10:09
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normie_i have no idea what i'm doing wrong10:10
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kgx!medibuntu10:20
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org10:20
kgx!mediabuntu10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:20
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newphazeanybody know a ancient latin channel?10:28
newphazelol10:28
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kirkIs there any cellphone tools for linux10:34
kirkLike Motorola Phone Tools10:34
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kirk!phone10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:35
kirk!cellphone10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:35
Harpihi everybody10:35
kirk!motorola10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about motorola - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:35
Smorg!ntfs10:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:37
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Smorg!ntfs-3g10:37
Smorg!fuse10:37
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:37
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems10:37
HarpiI have upgraded my kubuntu from 6.06 to edgy 6.10 bu i'm experiencing troubles .... it doesn't want to boot... it just displays the Kubuntu screen loader (not kde) and then freezes10:38
kirk!kmobiletools10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmobiletools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:38
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Harpidoes anyone has any idea or experienced the same problem ?10:38
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edwardhow do you reboot without rebooting your hardware?  (so Your HD doesn't power off?)10:39
Harpiit boots indeed ....the hardware boots, grubs purpose me to choose ... then I chose to start with Kubuntu .... it displays me the screen loader of Kubuntu10:41
Harpiand then nothing10:41
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IlokaasuHarpi: try pressing alt+f1 and see whats wrong or reboot and choose recovery mode and check what goes wrong after you type startx10:42
Harpii already tried alt+f1 .... no response .... it's freeezed10:43
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Harpieverything was alright with 6.0610:43
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Don_jr__Hello, I have my system dual booted, vista on one side, kubuntu on the other, how can I remove kubuntu and get rid of it completely??10:44
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Don_jr__Can anyone tell me how to remove kubuntu from my box?10:46
PhlogiI've downloaded the kubuntu dvd, do I need to take care when I burn the iso (on linux of course) so that the dvd is bootable afterwards?10:47
shockdiodesudo rm -rf /10:47
Don_jr__shockdiode will that uninstall everything? including the grub so my windows side will boot normally?10:48
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shockdiodeyou'll still have to select the option to boot into windows10:49
shockdiodeit's probably a bad idea to do what i suggested10:49
emilsedghDon_jr__: to uninstall grub, you have to repair your windows by its cd10:49
shockdiodeyes, listen to him10:49
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Don_jr__emilsedgh I've tried that, ended up having to reinstall kubuntu cause windows wouldn't load at all, said it couldnt' find grub and stopped there10:50
emilsedghDon_jr__: I have no experience with this, I have no windows and I never removed my gnu/linux, but I think you have to put your windows cd, repair your installation, then remove the kubuntu partition10:50
Don_jr__tried to 'repair' from mhy install CD and said it found nothing to repair10:50
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Don_jr__I can remove the partitions easy enough, but that doesn't stop my boot sector from trying to find grub for some reason. not sure how to do that part10:51
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emilsedghDon_jr__: ask windows support, windows replair can bring windows boot manager10:52
shockdiodecheck this thread out, google is your friend ;) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23852510:52
Don_jr__shockdiode thanks, I'll dig through it10:52
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Hueyhow can i prevent the libata modules from loading, and have the kernel use the ide-generic module instead?10:58
Huey(i think i'm experiencing huge performance penalties because of the libata stuff)10:58
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Stinkflyhello11:00
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digieject in amorok doesnt work for my ipod can anyone help me with this?11:02
Stinkflybye11:03
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emilsedghdigi: is it listed on /media?11:04
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digiyea11:05
digiIPOD11:05
digiamarok reads it just fine, but it cant eject it11:06
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digiI read this should work, but it doesnt  gnome-mount -t --eject --device %d11:07
Smorg!firewall11:07
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).11:07
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Smorgwheres guarddog?11:08
Smorgrepository?11:09
waylandbilldigi: The ipod should appear on the desktop. Right click it and 'safely remove'11:10
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shockdiodehuey: i'd like an answer to this one too, I've just been living with it as everything works ok but I don't understand remapping ide stuff to scsi11:11
shockdiodeperhaps this is a different issue than yours but it's really been bumming me out since feisty11:11
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waylandbillSmorg: yes.11:12
waylandbill!info guarddog11:12
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB11:12
Smorghm11:12
Smorgdoesn't show up :-/11:13
Smorgin add/remove progs11:13
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waylandbillSmorg: use Adept.11:15
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RurouniJonesIs there a way to get Thunderbird to minimise to the icon list on the right hand side of the kubuntu panel? (Like amarok and Konversation)11:17
digiI got it11:17
digiif anyone is curious the line that works with amarok is gnome-mount -t --eject --device /dev/disk/by-label/IPOD11:18
digi:) time for breakfast and a beer, catch ya on the flip side11:18
shockdiodedoes anyone know how to get feisty to recognise ide drives as /dev/hd* instead of /dev/sd* ?11:19
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shockdiodethe scsi emulation is unneccesary and bumming me out11:19
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waylandbillHuey: blacklist the one and modprobe the other.11:19
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aryr100hello all11:19
Hueywaylandbill: how do i blacklist a kernel module?11:20
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aryr100what is the cmd for sudo gedit in kde ?11:20
shockdiodemakes my dvd drive on my laptop perform poorly11:20
waylandbillHuey: see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file for details.11:20
shockdiodedo you just need to blacklist the sg stuff?11:21
waylandbillshockdiode: dvd burner?11:21
shockdiodeno dvd reader cdrw11:21
waylandbillaryr100: kdesu kate11:21
shockdiodethroughput on hd seems fine11:21
shockdiodebut dvd/cdrw behaves poorly sometimes11:22
aryr100kk thx11:22
waylandbillshockdiode: it's a burner of some sort. Gotcha. That has scsi emulation or otherwise you couldn't burn with it.11:22
Hueyso disabling scsi_mod should ensure i use the correct ide drivers, right?11:22
shockdioderight, but previously under the old scheme it worked fine11:22
Hueyis there the possibility of it not loading ide-generic on the next reboot?11:22
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shockdioderight so i don't want to get rid of the sg stuff11:23
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waylandbillHuey: I don't know if disabling scsi_mod will ensure anything gets used. Never did it.11:23
shockdiodei can live with it but it's just odd that after feisty and all drives being recognised as sd* it started behaving strangely11:24
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waylandbillHuey: perhaps someone on #linux knows more about the modules and how they function.11:24
Hueywaylandbill: but it should prevent libata from being loaded, right?11:24
Hueywaylandbill: ah, thanks11:24
Hueyif i blacklist scsi_mod, will the kernel automatically load ide-generic upon the next boot?11:25
waylandbillHuey: if you blacklist the module, it will not load on the next boot.11:25
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waylandbillHuey: again. I can't say what will happen other than the one will not load.11:25
Hueywaylandbill: sorry, typed that in the wrong channel :-P11:26
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Roy_Hallo, i've a question about keyboard layout11:26
RurouniJonesIs there a way to get Thunderbird to minimise to the system tray when you click the 'X'? (Like amarok and Konversation)11:27
aryr100-afkkk need this cmd for kde (sudo gedit ~/.bashrc) kdesu kate not opening it ?11:27
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Roy_i installed beryl and now i have a keyboard with death keys11:27
shockdiodeif i recall correctly scsi emulation is no longer needed for burners or did that change?11:28
waylandbillaryr100-afk: kdesu will cause you to open root's bashrc. You can simply 'kate ~/.bashrc' without the kdesu11:28
Roy_a search in the net and found something to change that, but the explained menu-point doesn't exist in my kubuntu11:28
shockdiodeon an older debian install of mine i remember switching to pure ide for burners11:29
aryr100-afkkk works thx11:29
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Roy_does anybody know, how to change the keyboard layout to "nodeadkeys"?11:31
Roy_in regional settings i found that11:32
Roy_but11:32
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Roy_under keyboard-type i can't select any type11:32
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waylandbillshockdiode: you could be right. Interestingly, I see my burner as /dev/hdc.11:33
waylandbillthe only scsi emulation I have is for my sd/mmc card reader11:34
waylandbillshockdiode: what does dmesg | grep CD output?11:35
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xenoli got a problem with video on feisty, in kaffeine the film plays very slow and screen is green (lol)11:37
xenolany ideas? already tried mplayer vlc but no success11:38
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emilsedghxenol: have you your video card installed properly?11:38
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dappermuisxenol, also, do you have the right codecs installed?11:45
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xenoldappermuis: i have installed w32codecs, also instal libxine-extracodecs, mpeg, libarts1-mpeglib11:45
xenolanything i forgot?11:46
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maurisomeone knows where adept updater stored the packages downloaded?11:46
emilsedghxenol: video card, is that installed properly?11:46
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emilsedghmauri: /var/cache/apt/archives11:47
xenolemilsedgh:  no drivers installed11:47
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emilsedghxenol: whats your vga?11:47
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xenolemilsedgh:  ati 9600 pro11:47
dappermuisxenol, no that looks about right. Take emilsedgh's advice and check your video card11:47
xenoldappermuis:  check what about it? :-/11:47
emilsedghxenol: please take a look at wiki to find out how to install ati drivers11:47
xenolemilsedgh:  k should that help?11:48
emilsedghxenol: im nost sure, but i think so11:48
mauriemilsedgh: thanks..... can i remove them if they are already installed?11:48
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emilsedghmauri: yes11:48
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xenolemilsedgh: does ubuntu applies also on kubuntu?11:49
emilsedghxenol: yes, but please remember that there is no restricted manager in kubuntu feisty, you should follow the manual guide11:50
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xenolemilsedgh:  u mean the one with downloading some files and flgrx?11:51
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emilsedghxenol: yes11:52
xenolemilsedgh:  k11:52
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mauriemilsedgh: why adept does not remove them itself after the install11:53
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emilsedghmauri: because many people (like me) love them! take backup from them and copy them!11:54
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mauriemilsedgh: ok thanks a lot I understand11:54
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emilsedghmauri: im on dial up, when i get kde4 beta 2 packages (about 300MB download), it took many hours, I dont want to lose them :)11:55
emilsedghmauri: me = many people like me11:55
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mauriemilsedgh: yes of couse, this is the reason why I would know where they was stored11:56
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xenolemilsedgh can u plz tell me if i have sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv writen that Xv must be replaced  with my gpu type?11:57
emilsedghxenol: sorry, dunno11:57
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waylandbillmauri: /var/cache/apt/archives12:03
mauriemilsedgh: have you tried kd4? wha do you think12:04
mauriwaylandbill: thanks12:04
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waylandbillmauri: see the man page for apt-get and specifically the clean and autoclean commands.12:04
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emilsedghmauri: before trying, its months and months that im following the development process, trust it, KDE4 rocks, even if not in 4.0, it will rock in 4.1, 4.2 and later12:05
Jones-KHow to add custom commands to keyboard shortcuts? i found only avaible to put something from kmenu12:05
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mauriwaylandbill: thank you12:07
emilsedghJones-K: systemSettings->Keyboard->shortcuts12:07
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emilsedghJones-K: but looks like that you have to create new menu entry for that12:08
Jones-Kyep, don't wanna put my kmenu full of shortcuts12:08
Jones-Kso i was asking what's the right way to do it beyond that12:08
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mauriemilsedgh: now i've 3.5.7 kde version...is it easy to switch to 4.0 or not12:09
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emilsedghJones-K: i dunno, maybe otheres know12:09
Jones-Ksome k application used to be for that, maby find that12:09
emilsedghmauri: install kde4 packages from feisty-backports, you will have them both, no conflict12:09
waylandbillin digiKam, when I want to select an icon for a tag, selecting anything but Applications for System Icons gives an empty category of icons.12:09
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Jones-Kbtw, does anyone know any xmms plugin for flashing keyboard leds?12:10
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mauriemilsedgh: i'm a beginner...and i'm using kubuntu 7.1012:12
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emilsedghmauri: they are already in 7.10, search kde4 in adept manager, but thats not usefull for you...12:13
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mauriemilsedgh: tell me why it is ot usefull fomr me12:13
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emilsedghmauri: its really unstable and buggy :) you cannot even use Konqueror to browse the web for more than a few minutes12:14
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fulat2khi folks, i'm using pppoeconf to connect to the net.  but somehow my dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf keep getting reset to the default entry i.e. 192.168.1.1 even though i've added additional ones via knetworkmanager.  any ideas?12:16
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mauri_who is the person that was speaking with me about kde4?12:17
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mauri_wolferine: do i speak with you before about kde412:19
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RurouniJonesDoes anyone else have sound trouble when running ZSNES? There is lots of interference etc.12:21
mauri_i've have a big big problem with kubuntu (now 7.10 version)12:21
mauri_Could someone help me12:22
xenol!ask | mauri_12:22
ubotumauri_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:22
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mauri_xenol: the problem is that sometimes on the video appear vertical line, only the mouse is possibile to move but it does not select nothing. I'm not be able to do nothing. I've tried to chaged kernel, but the problem still esist12:24
emilsedghmauri: i was speaking to you :)12:24
mauri_emilsedgh: sorry but the system had blocked12:25
mauri_emilsedgh: i didn't read you answer about why for me it's not usefull to install kd412:25
emilsedghits really unstable and buggy :) you cannot even use Konqueror to browse the web for more than a few minutes, mauri12:26
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emilsedghmauri: and, its natural, its beta :)12:27
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mauri_emilsedgh: i've have a big problem with all the kubuntu version12:27
mauri_emilsedgh: mya you help me12:28
emilsedghmauri: with video?12:28
mauri_emilsedgh: yes12:28
emilsedghmauri: did you install your video card driver?12:28
mauri_emilsedgh: i've tried to chageg the dirver after installed them in the xorg.conf file...but the sistem doesn't start12:29
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mauri_emilsedgh: the problem is that when the problem accours, i'm not be able to do nothig12:29
ardchoillemauri_: Are you running Feisty?12:29
emilsedghmauri: I think your did something wrong, but i dont know how to do that right12:29
mauri_ardchoille: no, 7.1012:29
emilsedghs/your/sou12:29
mauri_ardchoille: but i've have sthe same problem in 7.0412:30
ardchoillemauri_: 7.10 is a development release atm, you should be asking in an ubuntu dev channel12:30
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devianceIs KDEbase-dev a good idea? Do I need it to Make?12:31
mauri_ardchoille: the same problem accour in the 7.0412:31
devianceIt wont let me make otherwise12:31
ardchoillemauri_: What exactly is the problem? Which video player? What kind of vid card do you have?12:31
fdovingdeviance: what are you trying to 'make' ?12:31
devianceDomino the widget style12:31
mauri_ardchoille: i'm not sure that is caused y video adapter. It is nvidia geforce 440012:31
Jucatodeviance: kdelibs4-dev would be enough (you might need xorg-dev too)12:32
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fdovingdeviance: then you probably need it, yes. it does not hurt anyway, except it occupies some space.12:32
ardchoillemauri_: How did you install the video drivers?12:32
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ardchoillelol12:32
mauri_ardchoille: i download it from adept and installe nvidia driver insteed nv12:32
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fdovingdeviance: jucato may be right, kdelibs4-dev could be enough.12:33
mauri_ardchoille: in the xrog.conf...but the sistem dont start12:33
Jucatopeace, fdoving :)12:33
fdovingJucato: ouch, yeah :)12:33
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ardchoillemauri_: did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to update xorg?12:34
mauri_ardchoille: no, i've simply modiy xorg.con12:34
ardchoillemauri_: and what happens when you restart x ?12:34
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mauri_ardchoille: nothing....the system was blocked12:35
ardchoilleWhat do you mean by "blocked"?12:35
mauri_ardchoille: x is not started12:36
ardchoillemauri_: Did you run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:36
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mauri_ardchoille: i've to go now12:37
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mauri_ardchoille: may you give me an email addrss12:37
mauri_ardchoille: in order to contat you again12:37
ardchoillemauri_: I don't use email, but I'm usually in here.12:37
mauri_ardchoille: thanks for the moment12:38
ardchoille:)12:38
mauri_ardchoille: i hot to solve this peroblem asap12:38
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mauri_ardchoille: just last question..do you think that it coul be a video adapter problem?12:40
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combo!ati12:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:41
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ardchoillemauri_: I have a feeling that you didn't properly set up the nvidia driver.12:41
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ardchoillemauri_: Read that url that ubotu just posted12:42
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mauri_ardchoille: ok thanks12:42
mauri_ardchoille: i will do it, bye and thanks again12:42
ardchoillemauri_: You're welcome12:42
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ardchoilleThanks combo12:42
comboardchoille: i wanted that for myself but it's ok if it help also to someone else ;P12:43
ardchoillecombo: :)12:43
ardchoillecombo: Perfect timing12:44
combo( i came to this channel little later so i couldn't even see a problem :D )12:44
combo:)12:44
ardchoilleAh, ok. That's what I get for disabling parts/joins, lol12:44
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timmyWell, when I restarted afterinstalling KDEbase-dev it asked me to fill in the KDE3.5.6 options so that was a mistake12:46
ubuntu_some german people here_\12:48
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ubuntu_shit12:48
ubuntu_german german12:48
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dappermuis!de12:48
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:48
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crazy_busI'm trying to use shift+click to download a file in flashgot.  But kde seems to capture it so nothing happens.  How do I fix this?12:55
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ardchoillecrazy_bus: Can't you right click the link and choose save as?12:57
crazy_bussorry I mean alt-click12:57
crazy_busardchoille: I wan't to download lots of files quickly.  So I want to just alt-click and have it added to my download manager12:58
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ardchoillecrazy_bus: Alt+Left is a konqueror gesture for "Back"01:00
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ardchoillecrazy_bus: Open kcontrol, go to Regional & Accessibility, then go to Input Actions and look at the "Back" gesture (Keyboard Input Settings tab)01:01
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crazy_busthanks01:02
ardchoillecrazy_bus: You can disable that by ticking the "Disable" checkbox01:02
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crazy_busI did what you said ardchoille.  But for some reason alt+click still isn't working01:05
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ardchoillecrazy_bus: Oh, I just noticed, I was wrong. That gesture is for Alt+Left and I was thinking Alt+LeftClick. Sorry01:06
ardchoillecrazy_bus: But it sounds like a gesture and you should be able to find it in kcontrol and disable it01:07
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oMish_which package will install manpages for pthreads ?01:17
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essentialHellou guys!01:18
essentialTwo questions, what program would you use when making simpple video editings and how do I install Java.01:19
pag!java | essential01:19
ubotuessential: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:19
essentialBecause, installing the java. It was crying 'bout bin, that it's not directory O__o01:20
essential!Multiverse01:20
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:20
devianceHow do I animate menus? I know theres an option to have them fade in but where is it?01:21
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pagdeviance, kcontrol -> Apperarance -> Style -> Effects ?01:21
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devianceThats the one :D01:22
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ugaardchoille: heh, shame I'm late. Alt+click is the window grab01:24
ugakwin captures it to move windows01:24
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feierfoxhi01:25
pag!hi | feierfox01:25
ubotufeierfox: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:25
feierfoxwhere can i get the daily-build of gutsy?01:25
ardchoilleuga: D'ho! I should have thought of that since I use it01:25
ugaardchoille: it can be modified by right clicking on a window, configure window behavior->actions->window actions->01:25
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ardchoilleuga: That's good to know01:26
uganext time he comes ;)01:26
harrowedfeierfox: Try [ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ ] 01:26
pagfeierfox, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/01:26
feierfoxthanks!01:27
feierfoxi think about upgrading today... :O01:27
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harrowedI did last night :D Few scratches but all nice now :)01:27
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feierfoxi just have to do apt-get dist-upgrade01:29
feierfoxright?01:29
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ugaharrowed: in my case it was the whole disk scratched ;P01:33
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ugalucky you01:33
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harroweduga :: LOL.. You do realise you shouldn't piff CD's like frisbee's? Or is that a rhetorical question?01:34
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ugaharrowed: how did you know! that's what I did to the gutsy CD afterwards! ;))01:35
pagfeierfox, change "feisty" to "gutsy" in /etc/apt/sources.list , command " sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade " and have your fingers crossed01:35
ugaand see your machine ruined and needing to reinstall feisty :P01:35
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feierfoxand remove foreign-sources01:35
harroweduga: And boot live to download Live CD and install Gutsy!01:35
uganot even chrooting and updating again, nor checking bootup options, nor...01:35
ugacouldnt' fix it01:35
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harroweduga: Try running Damn Small Linux on an XBOX and downloading the ISO to burn :D01:38
ugaI've done very weird things in the past and fixed my machines often, but this one...01:39
ugaI couldn't even make it display antyhing, no matter how much I changed vga options01:39
ugaI saw the splash, but terminals weren't available01:39
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ugaso I booted with the live CD and chrooted. It turned out that the spanish mirror was f*cked up01:39
ugaso I changed mirror, and updated again. No luck01:39
harrowedEww.. Took me a day to work mine, but that's just silly onboard i810 crap instead of my nVidia card (legacy)01:40
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ugaI rebooted in single mode, that gave me a nice console, but the network card wasn't found01:40
uganot even loading all net modules01:40
Zergiuhello jucato01:40
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azalihi guys01:40
feierfoxnow it's stucking at 99% :/01:40
harrowedhi azali01:40
azalii've got a problem with my ubuntu01:40
ugaI got the asus CD, tried building the network driver... it didn't find the necessary headers01:40
ugaisn't it fun ;)01:40
azaliwho can help me with setting up dc++ client01:41
harroweduga: Ewww.. Sucks to be you :D01:41
harrowedfeierfox: Did you remove all external sources?01:41
feierfoxno :/01:42
harrowedfeierfox: probably stuck finding all the language files if you running non - en_US01:42
ugaharrowed: my most enjoyable (fixed) experience was when a gentoo ebuild failed installing properly libc,ld...01:42
ugaie, the system was completely broken01:42
harroweduga: And you fixed it? Ewww01:42
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harroweduga: May as well build from kernel up solo!01:42
harrowedwb deviance01:43
ugaharrowed: yup. chroot would not work because bash in the destination machine needs those libs. But then I found that gentoo always includes a statically linked shell, cant' recall which one01:43
ugaand asked chroot to run it01:43
d3ce1thi people, there is some web with kubuntu gutsy bugs?01:43
harrowedd3ce1t: Posting or parsing?01:43
nosrednaekimd3ce1t: yeah... there is01:44
nosrednaekim!bugs | d3ce1t01:44
ubotud3ce1t: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots01:44
d3ce1tposting I think01:44
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nosrednaekimharrowed: or the little creepy crawlers ;)01:44
d3ce1tah well ubotu :) I didn't read the "or any of its derivatives"01:45
d3ce1tthanksss01:45
d3ce1tnosrednaekim:  thanksss01:45
harrowedd3ce1t: You're reminding me of my mud'ing days playing a Lizardman.. I'm scared!01:45
nosrednaekim!botsnack01:45
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!01:45
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d3ce1tharrowed: xDD scared? why? haha01:47
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harrowedd3ce1t: Because I saw a KMUD client :D May want to get back into it.01:47
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harrowed*prods client* Meanie running KDE 3.7.. I mean Gutsy without 4.x :D not bleeding edge enough01:48
comboi have a problem with konqurer - it is written that there is no MIME type ?! what it means ? :] 01:49
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harrowedE: Couldn't find package gutsy-backports *CRY*01:49
nosrednaekimcombo: it means it that it cannot detect the type of file because it (probably) does not have a file name extension such as .odt,.zip, .deb, etc01:49
combonosrednaekim: how can i fix that ? :///01:50
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nosrednaekimcombo: what type of file is it?01:50
feierfoxok, now i did dist-upgrade and pray...01:50
harrowedpray to torvalds!01:50
comboit is when i'm opening /home/user then this alert appear01:50
nosrednaekimmake that Shuttleworth01:50
harrowedpray to ubotu!01:51
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nosrednaekimcombo: ah..... and konqueror doesn't show anything?01:51
combonosrednaekim: that's right01:51
comboonly bland  grey area01:51
nosrednaekimcombo: had the same problem... forget how I solved it..01:51
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nosrednaekimcombo: definately file a bug01:52
combonosrednaekim: no! crap! :(01:52
ugaharrowed: you really don't want to run kde4 yet01:52
d3ce1tharrowed: well :)) I have just discover what mean MUD client now, so thankss :P01:52
ugaharrowed: it's not useable01:52
feierfoxi pray to tux01:52
ubuntu_0_o01:52
harrowedd3ce1t: LOL Old school!01:52
mario_hi you all01:52
ugaharrowed: unless you're coding apps, that is01:52
nosrednaekimharrowed: in sutsy, KDE4 is in universe01:52
harroweduga: But.. but.. Feisty can run it :D01:52
nosrednaekim*gutsy01:52
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ugaharrowed: can run what, a desktop, a broken icon list on bottom and a cool fx? =)01:53
harrowednosrednaekim: Tah :D01:53
nosrednaekimcombo: so you can't do ANY filemanagement with konqueror?01:53
combonosrednaekim: hmm... it is also written in another alert that MIME types are NOT installed01:53
harroweduga: Try running beryl on 32 meg nvidia legacy :P01:53
combonosrednaekim: it looks so01:53
ugaharrowed: I've used beryl on 128MB 4year old cards just fine01:53
nosrednaekimcombo: mimetypes are not installed.... hmmm did any upgrades or such?01:53
ugaworked and stable01:54
combonosrednaekim: maybe it is caused i deleted something from home dir01:54
ugakde4 won't01:54
nosrednaekimcombo: what did you delete?01:54
harroweduga: I'm talking 1999 TNT2 NVidia 32 Meg :D01:54
comboi had GNOME before and i though that i can deletes some UN-USED folder from gnome if i have KDE now01:54
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combonosrednaekim: and as it seems now those folders where non-unused :/01:55
mario_bye...01:55
harrowedcombo: Did it explode?01:55
comboharrowed: eee... what ? :] 01:55
combonothing exploded01:55
combo;P01:55
harrowedcombo: yet01:55
combonosrednaekim: but i think i can have those folders in trash..hoply01:55
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combotrash..doesn't want to open :D01:56
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nosrednaekimcombo: try getting the filemanager dolphin... should be in the repositories01:56
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nosrednaekim!info dolphin01:56
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB01:56
uga20% of kdelibs done... unbeleivable01:56
nosrednaekimuga: KDE4?01:56
combonosrednaekim: but i have those foders in trash! can resotre them simply01:56
ugayes01:56
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combonosrednaekim: it will be easier... :)01:56
uga30% =)01:57
ugaI love the new box ;)01:57
harroweduga: Pffftb01:57
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nosrednaekimcombo: I'm saying... install dolphin so that you can easily cpoy them over01:57
combowhere is ./trash folder normally ?01:57
ugaharrowed: =)01:57
combonosrednaekim: right :D01:57
harrowedcombo: root folder01:57
nosrednaekimcombo: /home/username/.local/trash I think01:57
uganow if only I could monitor cpu temperature...01:57
nosrednaekimuga: you can...01:57
nosrednaekim!sensors | uga01:58
ugaanybody had asus p5k boards monitored?01:58
ubotuuga: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto01:58
harrowedErr /.trash something on non-ext2/3 fs01:58
uganosrednaekim: couldn't get it to work here01:58
nosrednaekimuga: ah.... ok. Always worked for me on my AMDs..01:58
ugait worked on my previous intel board too01:58
ugabut not here01:58
uga:/01:58
harroweduga: Stoofed :D01:59
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ugaharrowed: 70% =)01:59
ugaand building from scratch01:59
ugaie, no previously built files01:59
harroweduga: Missed a word, get stoofed :D01:59
nosrednaekimuga: you have a Raptor in that thing or something?01:59
ugaharrowed: I understood :P01:59
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uganosrednaekim: new box... core2 quad 2.4402:00
ugaand running make -j402:00
ugadoes the work nicely ;)02:00
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harroweduga: He's probably running a clone of that $2500 US Supercomputer at home :D02:00
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ugaharrowed: lol02:00
harrowederr that was to nosrednaekim :D02:00
combonosrednaekim: i can see those folders now: it is: emerald, evolution, frostwire, kiba-dock, loki, stratagus, wapi, xchat, logs, warcraft... before i had ubuntu with compiz02:00
harrowed26 Gflops! OMG02:00
ugaharrowed: 1keur, selected bought piece by piece02:01
nosrednaekimharrowed: Turion X2..... a super computer 15 years ago ;)02:01
combonosrednaekim: it doesn't look at important folders, does ti ? :)02:01
nosrednaekimcombo: what?02:01
harroweduga: So where's my burn in build :D02:01
combothose folders i deleted from home dir02:01
nosrednaekimwhat doesn't look at them?02:01
combonosrednaekim: i thought that thanks those folders konqurer doesn;t work anymore02:02
combonosrednaekim: those folders do not look at system-necessary-folders02:02
harrowedcombo: Your konquerer's conked out. Dolphin's just an alternate02:02
nosrednaekimharrowed: *K*oncked ;)02:02
comboharrowed: can i reinstall my system - but formatt only / partition and /home leave alone without formattin' ? is this possible?02:03
combois konqurer gonna work ?02:03
ugathis is what I get when trying to insmod the sensor module: FATAL: Error inserting w83627ehf (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627ehf.ko): No such device02:04
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comboi mean ... delete all folders from /home/username except my personal and reinstall system ?02:04
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combonosrednaekim: is this possible ? ;P02:04
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harrowedcombo: if you did it all manuallly yeah02:04
comboharrowed: and kub will add its system folders to my /home/ automaticlly ?02:04
nosrednaekimcombo: that would not be very smart... lets try to find my problem. Sure its possible.. but its not easiest ;)02:04
comboaithout deleting those rest folders  ;>02:05
harrowedcombo: I'd not recomend it. Just split the free space and move the /home/ there02:05
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nosrednaekims/my/your02:05
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combonosrednaekim: ehhh.... :] 02:05
harrowedsed be damned nos :D02:05
nosrednaekimcombo: try reinstalling konqueror (you can do it within adept)02:06
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combonosrednaekim: just remove it and then install again ?02:06
harrowedcombo: Select reinstall option02:06
nosrednaekimcombo: I think there is a "reinstall" option02:06
comboharrowed: understood02:06
azalii wanna say ubuntu rules02:07
harrowednosrednaekim: There is in Synaptic.. Can't recall if in Adept02:07
harrowedazali: ^_^02:07
azaliespecially after windows02:07
nosrednaekimharrowed: yeah I  use synaptic myself02:07
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harrowedThe dependancy checkup/add in Adept's a pain :(02:08
harrowedYEY! It hsa request Reinstall :D02:08
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harroweds/hsa/has/ :D02:09
ugastrange... I know for sure the board includes the W83627DHG02:10
ugamaybe a buggy module?02:11
harroweduga: Does it return anything directly reading it?02:11
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ugaharrowed: how am I supposed to do that?02:11
harroweduga: Not sure if you have it listed under /dev's :D02:12
ugait's an i2c interface. No idea how to read those i2cs...02:12
ugabut first the module should be loaded, so that it interfaces to the /dev02:12
ugaand it fails doing so02:13
harrowedCould be buggy drivers?02:13
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harrowedRestricted Hardware? or Kernel?02:13
uga"Since kernel 2.6.21 and 2.6.22, the w83627dhg support and the coretemp driver respectively ."02:13
ugaokay... stooopid kernel version ;)02:13
ugawhy even include the module if it doesn't work :P02:13
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harroweduga: So you can manualy recompile it :D02:14
harrowedSame with Webcam's :D02:14
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ugapfff. I don't feel like buildng my own kernel again. I did so for ages in gentoo. Now that I was happy with kubuntu kernels.... :P02:14
ugaharrowed: any chances the gutsy kernels are working fine on feisty? :P02:15
ugaand that I'll be able to install them fine without them trashing my current kernel? :)02:15
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harroweduga: You'd need to install the dep's but I don't see why not :)02:15
ugawell, the kernel shouldn't have many deps. The modules, maybe02:16
ugaI'll need the sources too, but that's about it02:16
ugamy worry is if it'll try to reconfigure my grub02:16
harrowedremount /boot non-write02:16
ugano boot partition :/02:17
ugajust /02:17
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harrowedOoow default partition setting oh so bad.. EXT3? Evil Journaling :)02:17
ugamy way of partitioning has been /, /home/, swap, and some externs02:17
ugaharrowed: LOL02:17
ugaI stopped using a boot partition from the times... mandrake was it?... kept installing everything there, and ended up filling the partition... and... it wouldn't boot anymore02:18
harrowedGo! :D / /boot/ /home/ /opt/ /lib02:18
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harrowedForget /opt now YEY! Maybe even a /usr :D02:18
ugauh? why split lib, and opt02:18
ugafrom /02:19
harrowedCoz my dev build goes crazy with libs!02:19
ugalol02:19
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harrowedspeically if not backwards *so glad I'm away from gnomie!*02:19
ugaugh, anyone knows the structure of repositories?02:20
ugawhere are the main debs meant to be?02:20
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nosrednaekimuga: pool I think02:20
ugaah, cheers. There they are02:20
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harrowed /ubuntu/archive/pool/main/02:21
harrowedDoh02:21
ugaheh, and.. possibly a silly question... what's the diff between a *.udeb and a *.deb?02:22
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harrowedOne has a u in front of it?02:22
ugalol02:22
soonI've just installed a Gutsy release candidate ... when the final Gutsy is released, will the release candidate be upgraded (via Adept) or do I need to re-install ???02:22
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harrowedsoon: Always be able to update! :D02:22
harrowedsoon: No dist-upgrade necessary for us!02:23
Jucatoer.. dist-upgrade....02:23
Jucato(the default actions in Synaptic and Adept are dist-upgrade02:23
nosrednaekim.udeb....hmmm maybe its a deb thats on a ubuntu liveCD?02:23
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soonso ... what youre saying is ... If I just keep running the current installation, it will be upgraded to the final release - I need do nothing more than daily adept upgrades - yes?02:24
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Jucatosoon: exactly02:25
harrowedsoon: Yup..  Same as bleeding edge builds02:25
soonthx02:25
Jucatoyou can upgrade daily to the release02:25
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ugaharrowed: btw, adept_manager shows the source from where the packs were installed02:26
ugawhich means it's easy to find them in the repos02:26
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wers!paste02:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:26
harrowedSo tempted to move the Install CD to a USB with a updating pool of packages... That Beta5 update was evil :)02:26
ubuntuhello how do you encode an mpeg 2 dixv avi?02:26
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harrowedubuntu: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/divx_linux_guide.html02:27
wersI can't access MySQL as root http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38339/02:27
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werswhat do I do?02:28
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harrowedwers: run mysqladmin and set root's password02:30
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harrowedsudo mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'02:31
ubuntuI am just a normal user who can a few commands out of its mindXD02:31
SkiffSkiffX02:31
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harrowedsudo mysqladmin -u root -h localhost password 'new-password'          or if using real hostnames02:32
wersI tried it harrowed but "error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'"02:32
harrowedwers: Personally I'd drop the databases and force them to re-write from scratch02:33
wersharrowed, how do I do that?02:33
harrowedwers: carefully02:33
ugaharrowed: uhm.. kde4 is becoming better ;)02:34
uga(jk)02:34
harroweduga: *bite* B'stage :D02:34
ugaharrowed: plasma seems to have moved elsewhere, or widgets aren't loading...02:34
ugaso no, not looking very good right now02:34
ugabut the style got a few fixes I loved. It was really ugly before02:34
ugaand finally the kwin deco got fixed02:35
wersharrowed, here's the thing: I was trying to make my amarok use mySQL by following this article--> http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-set-up-mysql-database-in-amarok.html02:35
wersafter entering some commands, at some point, I screwed up02:35
harrowedwers: now this (replace PASSWORD with your password) <- Did you do that? replacing it with your own pass?02:37
wersI did that02:37
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harrowedwers: Then you need to enter your password as that command that follows changes the root password for MySQL02:38
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harrowedwers: mysqladmin -u root password PASSWORD <- is telling MySQL to use username, 'root', and set their password to PASSWORD02:38
harrowedHehe uga killed X I think :D02:39
wersyep.. I know that.. but whenever I enter that code with my password...02:39
werserror: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'02:39
harrowedwers: (using password: NO) you weren't using a pass for it it says02:40
devianceCan I turn off window resizing when its maximized?02:40
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harroweddeviance: sorry I'm no help with interface features atm.. :(02:43
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uga|awayharrowed: almost02:48
uga|away/home/uga# sensors02:48
uga|awayw83627dhg-i2c-9191-29002:48
uga|away ERROR: Can't get adapter or algorithm?!?02:48
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harroweduga: WB02:48
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ugaI managed booting the gutsy kernel. Now I may know how to fix gutsy's boot... just disabling the splash...02:49
ugaat least that gets you a terminal. And ignore the vga commands. Default02:49
ugano vga=791 as I was doing. Else you get no terminal at all02:49
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ugaharrowed: any idea what that message means?02:50
ugaI need a newer lm-sensors pack, maybe?02:50
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harroweduga: It detects it though.. Why wouldn't it  respond02:51
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harroweduga: You running it as a module or did you recompile the kernel?02:52
ugayes, now the module loads fine, it seems. But it looks as if it cannot decode the information02:52
ugaharrowed: running the gutsy kernel with gutsy modules02:52
harroweduga: Is it turned on in the bios?02:52
ugaon feisty02:52
ugaharrowed: it should be, since the bios can show temperatures02:52
Jucato!aptitude > wers02:52
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harroweduga: Why not just go the she-bang :D02:53
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ugashewhat? =)02:53
harroweduga: gutsy! :D02:53
ugaI got no time for women today. I got a real crappy flu02:53
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uga=)02:53
ugaoh, gutsy02:53
ugaharrowed: because I had a real bad experience with it yesterday02:54
ugaI want to do tests first02:54
harroweduga: I don't think you're going to get it unless you do a source build of kernel :(02:54
bahrHi there. I have a Dell Dimension 9150 with a Geforce 6800 Graphics Card, which I would like to get 3d accel support for. I've tried to install the nvidia drivers according to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but when I restart X, it just goes black and I get the Kubuntu Load Screen with the blue progress bar. Can someone help me please?02:54
harrowedRather then module02:54
bahroh and I am running 7.0402:54
harrowedbahr: Any onboard video card?02:54
ugaharrowed: uh? I'm running the gutsy kernel image. And gutsy modules02:54
bahrharrowed: no02:54
ugathe module seems to be working, just the sensor utils don't seem to02:54
ugatrying to bulid lm-sensors, here02:55
harroweduga: KK.. You got the newer header's for it?02:55
bahrbahr:  weird thing is that it has worked in a previous kubuntu installation I made once, but now suddenly it doesn't even though I used the exact same procedure02:55
bahreh oops that was not ment for myself lol02:55
ugaharrowed: installing them now02:55
harrowedbahr: LOL.. Ok.. WHich one did you isntall? nvidia-new or?02:56
harrowedbahr: Ignore that you have to run nvidia-glx anyway02:57
bahrharrowed: ok, well I installed nvidia-glx as it said in the guide02:57
harrowedbahr: What does lspci | grep PCI say?02:58
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bahrit says:02:59
bahr00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL PCI Express Root Port02:59
bahr00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)02:59
bahr00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 01)02:59
bahr00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GR/GH/GHM (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 01)02:59
bahr00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)02:59
harrowed82801 onboard ethernet?02:59
Jucato!flood | bahr02:59
ubotubahr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:59
bahroh sorry ...03:00
ugaharrowed: =(  linux-headers-2.6.22-12-generic: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed03:00
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harroweduga: Ewww not dev build!03:00
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EmanueleTHello03:00
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Santiagohola03:01
EmanueleTI've installed Kubuntu yesterday, and I'm trying to make suspend to disk working03:01
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harrowedbahr: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure "nvidia" not "nv" is set.03:01
ugaharrowed: now that I know how to fix the boot, I could try upgrading, but I'm totally scared ;))03:01
Santiagocual era el codigo de kubuntu es?03:01
harroweduga: JFS... :D03:01
ugaSantiago: este canal es de habla inglesa...03:01
Jucato!es | Santiago03:02
Santiagosi. me di cuenta03:02
ubotuSantiago: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:02
EmanueleTI've a nvidia card... I followed the howtos, but I've still this issue: the laptop hibernates fine, but when I resume it, a black screen appears and it starts blinking!03:02
bahrharrowed: I don't have it installed now, this is a fresh installation of kubuntu again, but I already did that last time. Didn't work either03:02
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harrowedbahr: There's numerous lil ways to get it.. I had to not install defaults to get mine and then add GLX with Composite work-arounds03:02
ugaharrowed: uh? dont' tell me gutsy uses JFS as default FS ;)03:03
harrowedbahr: Best bet is, remember CTRL+ALT+Backspace = Kills X.03:03
harrowedext3 is JFS *bop*03:03
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bahrharrowed: yeah but the really odd thing is, that it actually did work twice, following the procedure on the wiki, but suddenly it does not choose to work.03:03
harrowedbahr: Unusual.. Backup the /etc/X11/xorg.conf once it works once to your user's home directory03:04
bahrharrowed: yeah but that does not work when the kubuntu load screen comes up, it just hangs, and I need to restart kdm and copy my xorg.backup file before I can login again03:04
harrowedbahr: Sometimes an update xserver-xorg will re-write it.03:04
harrowedbahr: Goto console, sudo ps aux | grep kdm03:05
harrowedbahr: kill -9 PID's of each KDM03:05
harrowedThen test with startx bypassing KDM03:05
ugaharrowed: if you can't localise me back in less than 24h, call the police. I got stuck with gutsy ;))03:05
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harroweduga: ROFLMAO03:05
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uga1233 upgraded, 197 newly installed, 16 to remove and 3 not upgrade03:06
harrowedLet's see.. Skype call to .. your country? 24 hours time? to laugh? :D03:06
Vaasne1 knows when (k)ubuntu install dmraid?03:06
bahrharrowed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38352/03:06
ugathis will take some time...03:06
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Vaasne1 knows when (k)ubuntu install support dmraid?03:06
harrowedbahr: Ok try this.. sudo ps aux | grep X03:06
uga!wtflang |Vaas03:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wtflang - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:07
ugauhm... yeah, not even ubotu can understand that lang ;)03:07
harroweduga: You're game not installing it from scratch :D03:07
bahrharrowed: then I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38354/03:08
harrowedbahr: Carefull as it'll kill all X sessions03:08
ugaharrowed: this time I'll make a bootable gutsy CD before I reboot ;))03:08
harroweduga: Why not make a bootable USB :D03:08
harrowedUgh! 2nd time KDE's died again03:08
ugathe ones that I made while inside gutsy (with cdrecord) turned out non-bootable03:08
harroweduga: ROFLMAO.. bad /dev/cdrom? :D03:09
Alp`hi there03:09
harrowedor /dev/cdrom0 :D03:09
harrowedAlp`: Howdy03:09
ugaharrowed: /dev/cdrw ;)03:09
harroweduga: Why don't they use dvdrwdl :D03:10
ugaharrowed: as you can see, I had quite a bit of fun trying to fix gutsy before ;)03:10
Alp`i need some help. i installed krusader because i dont like konqueror. now i want to make krusader the default filemanager. if i do this, it doesnt work. it just loads some second and disappears03:10
ugaI'm not one of those that gives up after 5 mins of not booting03:10
ugaup03:10
harroweduga: So did I .. Packages dying all the time until I rebooted and told dpkg -a --configure :D03:11
wersharrowed, I purged my mysql server but http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38353/03:11
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harrowedwers sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart03:11
harrowedeerr mysqld sorry03:12
Alp`i am able to start krusader normally, but it doesnt work if i change the default program for the mimetype inode/directory to krusader03:12
werssudo: /etc/init.d/mysqld: command not found03:12
harrowedsudo /etc/init.d/my<tab>03:12
bahrmaybe I should try just to install all updates now, and then try to install by following the wiki again and see if I'm lucky this time :-S03:12
ugaharrowed: so it actually booted for you? :P03:12
ugaI hope this one works without hand building asus drivers03:13
harroweduga: Yup yup.. On a PIII800 with 512 ram :D03:13
ugaLOL03:13
wersUsage: /etc/init.d/mysql start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|status03:13
ugaharrowed: what about next release of ubuntu... a spectrum zx? :P03:13
harrowedwers so /etc/init.d/mysql restart03:13
harroweduga: No.. Quantum :D03:14
ugalol03:14
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ugaharrowed: I'm sure soon we'll get to see 8 and 16 core cpus03:14
harroweduga: Or a clone of that $2500 US Supercomputer :D03:14
ugait pays mostly on multitasking though03:15
harroweduga: Already got Mobo's supporting 64 cores.. go figure03:15
lordofthepigshello! I have a weird ongoing problem with my laptop03:15
harrowedlordofthepigs: Describe away03:15
ugaharrowed: wha?03:15
lordofthepigsit's much slower when it's plugged into the wall outlet03:15
ugawhat mobos =)03:15
harroweduga: IBM Server rackmounts03:15
lordofthepigsAnd CPU usage is much higher when plugged than when unplugged03:15
wersharrowed:  * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.03:15
ugaharrowed: lol, I thought you meant a mobile pc (laptop) =)03:15
ugaharrowed: I mean for the desktop anyway, ie, "normal" intel and amd cpus03:16
lordofthepigsWhen I boot my Laptop unplugged, it boots about 2 to 3 times faster than when it's plugged03:16
harrowedwers: Ouch.. You purged all the tables?03:16
Jucatolordofthepigs: have you checked the settings for guidance-power-manager?03:16
harroweduga: Pfftb03:16
ugaharrowed: not kidding. If they went 4 cores this quickly, soon next year we'll see the 8 core cpus03:16
ugaand 16 very soon too03:16
lordofthepigswell, when plugged, the power manager says "dynamic", when unplugged it says powersave03:16
ugaharrowed: it'll be even worse than the megapix0r race in digital cameras ;)03:17
ugawho got more cores?03:17
lordofthepigsJucato: That's all I know about the settings03:17
harroweduga: Tier'd with layers :D03:17
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lordofthepigsanyway, the power manager would kick in quite late in the boot process wouldn0't it?03:18
harroweduga: 64 core, by purchasing 8x8 core wafers03:18
Jucatolordofthepigs: right-click on the power manager icon and configure it. I think there are settings for what profile to use when plugged or unplugged03:18
harrowedJucato: But he's talking about booting process.. Isn't that HAL?03:18
lordofthepigsIt's before HAL is even loaded03:18
Jucatoharrowed: he was talking about power profiles earlier03:19
ugaharrowed: my wondering is if they'll manage to make real 4 core ones, first. Current intel 4 cores aren't really 4 equal cores. Rather 2x2core cpus03:19
lordofthepigsI always get a message saying "Intel RNG something something" at boot time03:19
uganot as efficient as 4 tightly linked cores03:19
lordofthepigswhen my laptop boots while unplugged, the message appears after 24 seconds (consistently)03:19
harrowedcat /var/log/messages | grep Intel03:19
harrowedooops03:19
ugalol03:19
lordofthepigsbut when it boots while plugged in, It appears after 75 seconds03:20
lordofthepigsharrowed: Is that for me?03:20
ugaharrowed: please enter password:03:20
uga=)03:20
harroweduga: red-faced-aussie :D03:20
uga=))03:20
EmanueleTAnyone has an idea?03:20
harrowedlordofthepigs: It'd be too long lordofthepigs to parse the messages03:20
harrowedEmanueleT: Sorry didn't even see a message?03:20
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EmanueleTharrowed: [15:02]  <EmanueleT> I've a nvidia card... I followed the howtos, but I've still this issue: the laptop hibernates fine, but when I resume it, a black screen appears and it starts blinking!03:21
ugaanyway, gotta have a rest. This flu doesn't let me stay up much, and the upgrade will take at least 1h more03:21
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lordofthepigsharrowed: Actually, I get 5 lines...03:21
harrowedEmanueleT: I had that too.. PSU isn't ACPI(sp) compliant03:21
lordofthepigsharrowed: go figure...03:22
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harrowedlordofthepigs: nano it and search for those lines, check messages +/-5 lines03:22
EmanueleTharrowed: so, what can I do? It used to work with other distributions03:22
lordofthepigsI'll just describe another symptom.03:23
lordofthepigsI was playing OpenTTD today, with the laptop unplugged on "powersave" mode, and the CPU usage was hovering around 15%03:23
harrowedEmanueleT: The screen blinks? or the onbutton blinks?03:23
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pookeyhey all - what do I want to put for the source of a kubuntu debootstrap?03:23
lordofthepigsI almost ran out of power, plugged it in the wall outlet, and manually switched to powersaving mode03:24
harrowedpookey: grub-install (hd0)?03:24
lordofthepigsand suddenly the power usage was now erratically hovering at around 80%03:24
pookeyharrowed: I don't think you understood the question..03:24
harrowedpookey: :D You want the first entry from the bootstrap? or03:25
EmanueleTharrowed: the screen blinks03:25
harrowedEmanueleT: That's kind of worrying me.03:25
pookeyharrowed: well, basically, the graphical installer won't install to the partition I want because it insists on formatting it (I don't want to loose my old install in /gentoo and I have no where to back up to), so I want ot install manually via debootstrap03:25
EmanueleTharrowed: very quickly, and it stops only when I press Ctr+Alt+Backspace or Ctrl+Alt+F103:25
EmanueleTharrowed: could it be because I use nvagp, but the intelagp module is still loaded?03:26
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harrowedEmanueleT: Eeep.. You have to kill X to get it to stop?03:26
pookeyharrowed: so I'm just looking for the command to run, which I imagine is 'debootstrap --arch i386 feisty /mnt/gentoo/  <URL>'03:26
harrowedpookey: I could only cat the CDIMage boot line sadly :(03:27
lordofthepigsI can't find the specific message I'm referring to in /var/log/messages03:27
pookeyI assume if I install ubuntu, I can switch to kubuntu easily?03:27
lordofthepigsbut it can't be the root of the problem anyway, can It? I mean the boot process until the appearance of this message already is 3 times slower03:27
lordofthepigspookey: yeah, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:28
harrowedpookey: Some problems with errative behavior though..03:28
pookeyharrowed: meaning?03:28
harrowedpookey: http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/ <- Tried as was suggested but found it erratic03:29
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pookeyI wish the installed didn't insist on formatting /, that's so stupid :|03:29
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harrowedpookey: Can't you resize the partition with Gentoo still? and then move /gentoo to a new mount location?03:31
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pookeyharrowed: then I'd have to resize it again after, it's a lot of hastle and time wasting - I consider this a bug in the installer03:32
pookeyI'd understand if it was a warning, but it's an error that you cna't get past03:32
harrowedpookey: Sadly I would too.. :)03:32
ice-phoenixhi do someone know how to run photoshop cs3 ?03:32
harrowedice-phoenix: Only via Wine03:33
pookeyor of course, dualboot to windows, like I do ;)03:33
harrowedpookey: debootstrap --arch i386 feisty /ubuntu http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu feisty03:33
lordofthepigsWould there be any reason why SystemGuard shows my CPU utilisation at around 50%, while top adds up to 5%03:34
pookeyharrowed: fantastic!03:34
lordofthepigsI know this is also related to this weird power problem03:34
ice-phoenix<harrowed> not working03:34
pookeyharrowed: however... 'E: No such script: feisty'03:34
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lordofthepigsit's really strange, whatever power settings I chose when I run my laptop unplugged, everything is fine03:35
harrowedpookey: crap.. one sec let me find a try from here :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch03:35
lordofthepigsbut whatever power setting I chose when it's plugged, and I get weird CPU usage reading03:35
harrowedice-phoenix: You can't get Wine to run Photoshop CS3?03:36
harrowedlordofthepigs: Could it be faulty readin? What does TOP usage say?03:36
lordofthepigstop says about 2%03:36
lordofthepigsbut the CPU is really getting that hot03:36
lordofthepigsI mean it's really getting as hot as if it was running at 50% load03:37
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harrowedlordofthepigs: I'd check some of the packages.. You run a cleanup recently?03:37
lordofthepigsOh, no wait a sec03:37
lordofthepigstop says that03:37
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pookeyharrowed: probably easier if  I find an external HDD from somewhere, and just backup my system - I tihnk I'll report a bug about this thoug03:38
ice-phoenix<harrowed> yes, java problem cant istall i found for dreamweaversc3 a tutorial but and its forkink for DRcs3 but not for PScs303:38
lordofthepigsgeez, How do I copy text from top...03:38
lordofthepigs?03:38
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gnomefreaklordofthepigs: you cant03:38
gnomefreakit jumps around too much03:39
ugaharrowed: no, neither wine nor the crossover will run new versions of photoshop03:39
lordofthepigsok03:39
harrowedlordofthepigs: LOL .. top > output.txt | killall -9 top03:39
ugasomebody should ban adobe in the linux world03:39
ice-phoenix:)03:39
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harrowedice-phoenix: Run gimp! The gimp suit owns :D03:39
gnomefreakuga: please keep it support realated03:39
ugagnomefreak: sorry, sure. I was just trying to avoid somebody from wasting the time with wine and photoshop... no idea who asked03:40
harrowedooops lordofthepigs don't run that.. do a top > output.txt && killall -9 top03:40
harroweduga: ice-phoenix asked03:40
ice-phoenix<harrowed> idont know to how to use it i know shortcuts in PS but not in Gimp03:40
ugaice-phoenix: your best options are krita/digikam-showfoto/bibble03:41
lordofthepigsokay, top does says that on the summary line03:41
lordofthepigsCpu(s): 40.0%us,  5.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 55.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st03:41
ugagimp is limited to 8 bi tprocessing03:41
harrowedice-phoenix: Run the alterations of gimp to use PS shortcuts .. there's a guide with a script preconfigured03:41
lordofthepigsbut the list of processes really adds up to 2-3%03:41
ice-phoenix<harrowed > tnx03:42
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lordofthepigswhen unplugged, top return that03:42
lordofthepigsCpu(s):  1.0%us,  1.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 97.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st03:42
harrowedgnomefreak: Can you think of any reason why a laptop would boot faster without being plugged into wall than with?03:42
lordofthepigsand the list of processes add up to exactly 2.7%03:43
ugaharrowed: I had that with my old lappie03:43
lordofthepigswhich is correct03:43
uganto sure why, but it'd run everything slower when unplugged03:43
lordofthepigsuga: yeah that's my current problem03:43
ugaharrowed: maybe it went on some stepping mode. It was a k6-203:43
gnomefreakharrowed: other than your electricity restricting it no03:43
lordofthepigsMine is a Pentium M03:43
ugalordofthepigs: it may be related to acpi if it's supported03:43
harrowedgnomefreak: Hmm.. Yeah that's lordofthepigs' problem atm :(03:44
harroweduga: I already suggested that :(03:44
ugalordofthepigs: power saving03:44
gnomefreakonly thing i can think of03:44
harrowedice-phoenix: had hibernation problems with monitor with Ubuntu too03:44
lordofthepigsuga: did you look at the strange numbers 'top' returns03:44
gnomefreakpower saving would slow down even without it plugged in03:44
ugalordofthepigs: wow, completely iddle?03:44
ugaidle03:44
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lordofthepigsyeah03:45
lordofthepigsso it's pretty bad when plugged in03:45
lordofthepigsbut normal when unplugged03:45
harrowedBRB.. KDE's died and still not returning03:45
ugathe other way around, you mean?03:45
harrowedKilling X03:45
lordofthepigsuga: no, this way03:45
ugalordofthepigs: so it goes slow when plugged?03:45
ugathat's really strange03:45
lordofthepigsyeah03:45
lordofthepigsI think so too...03:46
ugaI'd suggest digging google for the laptop model or its motherboard, or disabling acpi03:46
lordofthepigsI dual boot windows, and windows has no problem with that03:46
lordofthepigsso I don't think that would be the problem03:46
ugaI believe you can do that from the grub line. Something like acpi=off03:46
ugaif that works, then you know it's acpi related03:46
lordofthepigshmm... what does acpi do exactly?03:46
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ugalordofthepigs: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface03:47
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ugait controls suspending, restarting, cpu stepping...03:47
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ugaall power related stuff03:47
lordofthepigsuga: do you have any idea where the used CPU% that is unaccounted for by 'top's process list can be spent?03:47
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lordofthepigsOh, and suspending doesn't work either03:48
ugano, not really. Idle means it's just nop'ing possibly03:48
lordofthepigswell... It suspends correctly03:48
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lordofthepigsbut it never revives03:48
harrowedit leaves a nasty corpse? ewww03:48
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ugalordofthepigs: when it goes bad, you could try cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU1/throttling03:49
ugathat will tell you if acpi or something has put the cpu into slower mode03:49
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ugathere's tons of information you can get under /proc/acpi, btw03:49
harrowedI'd be reinstalling ACPI services..03:49
cidcoAnyone know why when i try to stream video over wireless it wants to copy the file first then start playing? it seems to be something new.03:50
ugaharrowed: it may be just a broken implementation of acpi in the laptop03:50
ugait used to be common in the past03:50
ugathanks to the broken implementation of w9803:50
harrowedcidco: Try streaming with VLC?03:50
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feierfoxso03:50
harrowedwb feierfox!03:50
feierfoxhow to check, that i'm "gutsy"?03:50
cidcoharrowed: yes i right click on the file and open with vlc03:50
harrowedfeierfox: LOL.. You too! Muhahaha03:51
cidcoit still begins to copy03:51
feierfox:D03:51
lordofthepigs_uga: My laptop is an Asus, about 2 years old03:51
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lordofthepigs_does Asus have any bad reputation for that kind of stuff?03:51
feierfoxi want a proof, how to check?03:51
ugafeierfox: if you type "uname -a" it'll tell you "I'm broken" ;)03:51
ugathat way you'll know it's gutsy ;))03:51
harrowedcidco: It shouldn't send.. Which build of vlc? vlcwx? or vlc_something else03:51
feierfoxand for serious?03:51
ugalol, no, obviously not03:51
harrowedfeierfox: LOL... He's installing atm :D03:52
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cidcoharrowed: vlc 0.8.6c03:52
harrowed'Linux ubuntu 2.6.22-12-generic #1 SMP Sat Sep 22 18:14:28 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux'! All Hail gorgeous Gutsy!03:52
cidcoand the strange thing is i swear i have done this before, i do it all the time from my xp laptop03:53
harrowedcidco: ps ux | grep vlc03:53
lordofthepigs_uga: one last question: disabling ACPI will definitely forbid me from using the CPU steppings?03:53
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harrowedpci=noacpi in your grub boot will find out03:54
lordofthepigs_so I won't be able to chose between powersave and performance modes?03:54
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feierfoxuname -a shows me only my kernel03:54
cidcoharrowed:  cidco    11238  0.9  1.5 108616 30932 ?        Sl   08:51   0:01 wxvlc03:54
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harrowedcidco: wxvlc SHOULD stream without echo'ing (FTP'ing the file)03:54
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harrowedcidco: No alterations to the VLC stream configuration?03:54
cidconope03:55
cidcojust installed it 5 min ago03:55
EmanueleTharrowed: sorry, my connection stopped working, did you answer me?03:55
cidcoand this laptop was just installed and updated lastnight03:55
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feierfoxhmm, how to change my resolution to 1204x..?03:55
harrowedEmanueleT: Sounds like your problem's same as lordofthepigs .. :(  bad ACPI!03:55
lordofthepigs_harrowed: Shall I append this at the end of the "kernel: " line?03:55
harrowedfeierfox: Left ALT Keybpad + or is it ctrl can't recall03:56
ugalordofthepigs_: I think so, yes03:56
ugaI dont' think there's another way. Maybe APM does03:56
harrowedlordofthepigs: I honestly can't recall :( Woudln't work for me during instalation of Feisty03:56
EmanueleTharrowed: but... it used to work with openSUSE and Gentoo!03:56
ugabut I don't think many people use APM anymore03:56
lordofthepigs_How come windows has no problem with at all with my laptop?03:56
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harrowedEmanueleT: Reinstall ACPI?03:56
EmanueleTharrowed: how?03:57
ugalordofthepigs_: because all manufacturers make sure the laptop works fine on windows, or they provide drivers so that it does03:57
harrowedlordofthepigs_: Coz the machine's made with windows xp in mind to their specs03:57
lordofthepigs_right, that makes sense03:57
EmanueleTharrowed: you mean the Hardware ACPI firmware, or the ACPI software?03:57
harrowedEmanueleT: The service03:57
ugalordofthepigs_: initially all pc makers made a buggy implementation of acpi. You know why? funny, because somebody in Microsoft introduced a bug in win98's acpi code03:57
harrowedEmanueleT: You should reinstall the package.. Make sure it's not been dmg'd03:57
ugalordofthepigs_: so that all manufacturers "fixed" their acpi in the boards, so that it worked for windows 9803:58
ugawhen acpi was meant to be a specced thing by intel03:58
bottigerSuddenly my two Kubuntu-boxes fails to connect to the internet. However, it works fine from windows. How do you start debugging something like this?03:58
EmanueleTharrowed: sorry... dmg?03:58
SkiffSkiffX03:59
harrowedfeierfox: If it's not configured previously then you may have to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the Display properly03:59
harrowedEmanueleT: Damaged03:59
Lunar_LampWhat file must I edit to load a module on boot?03:59
harrowedbottiger: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 :D03:59
ugaLunar_Lamp: /etc/modules03:59
harrowederr sudo'ing of course03:59
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Lunar_Lampuga: lol, oops, completely missed that :-( I thought that's what it was, but browsing for it quickly and I missed the file.04:00
bottigerharrowed: yes?04:00
harrowedbottiger: You checked ipconfig and that DHCP isn't failing etc?04:00
harrowedEeep04:01
ugaharrowed: you shouldn't use windows that much. ifconfig ;)04:01
bottigerharrowed: you mean ifconfig?04:01
bottigerharrowed: then yes - I don't get an IP04:01
ugabottiger: if you have installed something like ethereal/wireshark, it may help debugging04:01
ugahave you ever used it?04:01
harrowedbottiger: Router not replying?  And this is new problem?04:01
ugayou could check if it's actually sending anything out04:01
ugaalso try running dhclient manuallly and see what it puts to terminal04:02
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bottigeruga: I don't have that04:02
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bottigerharrowed: It started yesterday04:02
bottigerand as I said - I goes for both my machines04:02
ugauh.. is the network card actually found?04:03
bottigeruga: yup04:03
runleveltenFirst try an /etc/init.d/networking restart04:03
KartiJust a quick one. What command would I use to mount my mp3 player?04:03
bottigerrunlevelten: done that04:03
runlevelten:P04:03
lordofthepigs_What's a DSDT?04:03
runleveltenKarti: is it an mp3 player you can mount? ie: what one is it?04:03
ugalordofthepigs_: what context. Acpi?04:04
lordofthepigs_Now that it seems that ACPI is likely to be the root of the problem, I google a little bit, and I found a few pages saying that ASUS laptops had buggy DSDT04:04
harrowedKarti: lsusb and finding out if it's detected .. It SHOULD be FAT so you could mount -tvfat /dev/XXXXX /mnt/mp3p04:04
Kartiits a warfedale fm668704:04
runleveltenbottiger - and is it a complete loss of connection, a failure to get out of the lan, or just a failure to resolve any hostname (ie ip only)04:04
ugalordofthepigs_: I believe that's the firmware loaded into the motherboard for implementing acpi04:04
ugaor something like that04:04
bottigerrunlevelten: I'm not sure. how do I find out?04:05
ugalordofthepigs_: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php04:05
harrowedlordofthepigs: So check you have latest BIOS?04:05
uga"what's a dsdt?" there04:05
runleveltentry pinging the router, then try pinging one of google's IPs, then try pinging google.04:05
runleveltenwhich steps fail.04:05
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runleveltens/\./\?/04:05
bottigerrunlevelten: basicly all I know is: eth0 shows up, restarting it doesn't help. I don't get an IP and therefor google.com doesn't work :)04:05
lordofthepigs_harrowed: I'm not sure, I never ever flashed it04:06
ugabottiger: it sounds like a broken dhclient04:06
ugabottiger: you could try starting up with a liveCD, mount the partitions on /mnt, chroot /mnt, and apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade04:06
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martijn81bottiger: tried sudo dhclient?04:06
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runleveltenHow do you know you don't get an IP?04:07
feierfoxso.. i did a "sudo apt-get upgrade"04:07
ugaifconfig04:07
feierfoxand now a04:07
feierfox"sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:07
feierfoxi hope now i upgrade not twice :/04:07
ugafeierfox: sudo apt-get update04:07
uganot upgrade04:07
ugafor updating the list04:07
bottigermartijn81: now I have - what should I expect?04:07
ugaand dist-upgrade for updating all packs04:07
harrowedfeierfox: LOL04:07
runleveltenand what do you get for the inet addr bottiger?04:08
feierfoxis he doing it twice now ? :(04:08
martijn81bottiger: it should probe DHCP on your router/gateway04:08
ugafeierfox: upgrading will only update different packs04:08
harrowedfeierfox: Edit sources list and change them all to gutsy, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I think it is04:08
ugait won't update twice the same thing04:08
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feierfoxhmm, if he dont upgrade twice, what is he doing the next 1:50 hour? :/04:09
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bottigermartijn81: It returns a lot of: "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval X"04:09
bottiger...where x is 4,8,14 or some random number04:09
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bottigerthen: "No DHCPOFFERS recieved"04:10
harrowedWired Ethernet? or wireless?04:10
martijn81bottiger: then your router is dead or your network is not configured properly04:10
bottigerharrowed: wired04:10
harrowedmartijn81: But he can run Winshame fine04:11
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martijn81that IS wierd04:11
martijn81*weird04:11
bottigermartijn81: true - I'm chatting from windows04:11
bottigerunplugging my windowscomputer doesn't help04:11
harroweds/windows/winshame!/04:11
bottigerplugging my linux directly into the modem gives the smae result04:11
lordofthepigsthank you harrowed, uga, I'm going to try to update my bios04:11
harrowedbottiger: Maybe the router wont release them :D04:11
harrowedlordofthepigs: Anytime :)04:12
runleveltentry restarting the router then.04:12
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harrowedbottiger: Turn them all off and turn router off for 10 seconds04:12
runleveltenassuming it's some black box type affair you're using.04:12
harrowedthen switch back to linux04:12
lordofthepigsI just hope nothing goes wrong...04:12
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lordofthepigsI don't have a partiularily good experience with flashing bioses...04:12
bottigerokey - I'll try turning it off04:12
ugalordofthepigs: ugh, that's scary04:13
uga(bios upgrading)04:13
harrowedlordofthepigs: just use a freedos bootdisk :)04:13
bottigerbe back in 2 minutes then :)04:13
wesleyhello hoe do you encode in ffmpeg a mpeg 2 avi04:13
harrowedwesley: wb :)04:13
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lordofthepigsharrowed: You mean a floppy?04:14
harrowedwesley: Try doom9.org website04:14
lordofthepigsbah04:14
harrowedlordofthepigs: You can make them now to boot from CD/USB :)04:14
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lordofthepigsbah... anyway, I'm off to try04:14
lordofthepigsbye04:14
harrowedlordofthepigs: Cyz04:14
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ugawesley: man ffmpeg is nicely written04:16
bottigernope04:16
ugause the docs!04:16
bottigerno luck04:16
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harrowedAnyway... going ot crash ^_^ Nigh tall!04:20
ugaif you teach somebody to cook and that guy can feed/teach cooking others, it's better than cooking yourself for 2000 people04:20
harrowedHave fun with Gutsy uga :D04:20
ugaharrowed: thanks. I hope so ;)04:20
ugaI'll let you know tomorrow........ if I'm online ;)04:20
harroweduga: ROFLMAO.. Not that bad :D04:21
harrowedPain to update though initially!04:21
harrowedEasier to do it from Konsole04:21
llutzuga: problem today is, that most of the noobs are analphabetic fastfood-eaters :(04:21
ugawell, at least this time the kernel seems to have found the network ;)04:21
ugallutz: lol04:21
harrowedNight!04:21
harrowedanalphabetic.. got to remember that one :D04:21
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llutzups, "illiterate"04:22
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wesleyi dont get it from ffmpeg doc04:23
ugawesley: there's examples at the end of the man page04:23
ugawesley: for example... ffmpeg -i mydivx.avi hugefile.yuv will convert from avi format to yuv04:24
ugait's not that hard ;)04:24
bahrI'm looking for an all-use editor, for programming, LaTeX editing, and file editing. I've been recommended emacs and vi, but they are both hard to learn. Can someone recommend which one is best for my use, so that I don't need to waste my time trying out both?04:24
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ugabahr: kate04:25
wesleyyes but i need to convert a mpeg to avi04:25
llutzbahr: vim, use vim-tutorial to learn basics. it's not that hard.04:25
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ugabahr: for latex alone though, it'll help better if you use something like Kile04:26
ugait's a great editor04:26
ugabased on kate part, if I'm not wrong04:26
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ugawesley: it's same thing04:26
wesleyokee04:27
ugainput file, output file04:27
ugaffmpeg is clever and will figure out what you want ;)04:27
bahrok well it's not just for LaTeX but also for programming use and simple file editing use I need one04:27
bahrbut I'll take a look at it thanks :)04:27
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ugabahr: for that purpose, use kate. I just meant kile will help you more for latex than normal editor04:29
ugas04:29
bahrah ok04:30
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ugabahr: http://kile.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/snap_autocom04:30
ugaautocompletion of latex sequences, for example04:30
ugayou could also go lyx, but I never liked the solution much. Maybe it has improved04:30
abominiuslooks like my bamboo/wacom tablet does not load the module when plugged, i have read all documentation for this, but none resolve my p roblem, any suggestions?04:31
ugaabominius: uhm... you mean it loads fine when unplugged but not otherwise?04:31
ugaif so, you might have to report a bug to the module maintainer04:32
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abominiusno, i mean that doesn't load when plugged04:32
ugabut... does it load when unplugged?04:32
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abominiusand if i load the module manually, it doesn't recognize the device04:32
abominiusnope04:32
abominiusuga: no04:32
ugasounds like an unsupported device / broken module, then04:33
wesleyit works and i did found the fault the file name was to long it was Abunai 200704:33
abominiusin my gentoo works fine with linux_wacom software04:33
abominiusso is supported04:33
ugawhat kernel?04:33
ugagentoo is always adding edge kernels04:33
abominius2.6.20 too04:33
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Kartiharrowed: It looks like lsusb finds it, Bus 002 Device 008: ID 066f:8000 SigmaTel, Inc.- When I try to mount it as you said onto a folder it says that the device does not exist, do you have any other ideas?04:34
abominiuskarthi: DMESG | GREP USB04:34
ugaabominius: you may just need a kernel upgrade, I guess04:35
abominiussorrty 54 caps04:35
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abominiusuga, ok, how i do if is already up-to-date 4 adept?04:35
ugaabominius: what's uname -a?04:35
ugaiirc feisty is 2.6.1904:35
abominiusLinux aboserver 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux04:35
ugauhm... weird04:36
abominiusy04:36
uga2.6.20... and gentoo does same04:36
aguitelanyone have problem with fan in laptos? my fan never stops04:36
ugamaybe they have patched the driver?04:36
Kartirunlevelten: Opps that was for you as harrowed has gone ;)04:36
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abominiusdunno04:36
ugaabominius: you could try what I just did. Get into the gutsy mirrors, and install 2.6.22 debs04:36
abominiusanyone get work wacom tablet04:36
abominius?04:36
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ugaabominius: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/04:37
ugabut I cannot assure such fix will exist04:37
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abominiusi'm starting to hate kubuntu.....04:38
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ugaabominius: heh. Be patient. Even gentoo had serious bugs ;)04:38
ugaabominius: what does dmesg say when you insmod wacom?04:38
ugano device found?04:38
abominiusy, but can resolve in a unix way, whit kubuntu no04:38
abominiusabominius@aboserver:~$ sudo modprobe wacom04:39
abominiusPassword:04:39
abominiusFATAL: Error inserting wacom (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/input/wacom.ko): Invalid module format04:39
ugaabominius: you can always build your own custom kernel, like I did with gentoo ;)04:39
ugaoh, ... oh... that module is broken04:39
hydrogenare you using "in a unix way" to refer to "in a way that requires lots of time and energy with little hope and rewards"04:39
hydrogenno... its not broken04:39
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hydrogenit was compiled for a different version of the kernel04:39
abominiushydrogen: yes sure04:39
hydrogenthan you are using04:39
hydrogensee dmesg to get more information04:40
ugahydrogen: why doesn't it spit out a message saying invalid kernel version then? iirc that's the usual message04:40
abominiusi should try to reinstall?04:40
ubuntucan someone help me with creating a /home partition during the kubuntu install ?04:40
hydrogenuga: it usually says that in dmesg04:40
ugahydrogen: that's the dmesg output, he pasted04:40
ubuntuI've created a / partition and a swap but it wont let me create a /home partition04:40
delagrandywhen i open kinfocenter and select opengl04:40
hydrogenno, thats the stderr message04:40
delagrandythe software crashes why04:40
abominiustrying to reinstall wacom04:41
delagrandywhen i open kinfocenter and select opengl second time the software crashes why04:41
ugahydrogen: oh heh, I thought it was dmesg, since I had asked before =)04:41
delagrandywhen i open kinfocenter and select opengl second time the software crashes why04:41
Kartiabominius: My dmesg came back , thanks, I'm just a bit of a numpty as it should be sdb not sda2 etc :)04:41
abominiusKarti: dmesg is your bible, remember :D04:41
ugaI hate those that take kernels as if they were a religion ;)04:42
abominiusis not a religon?04:42
Kartiabominius: It was very interesting.....all I need to look for now is the right filesystem and commands......04:42
ugathey're just pieces of broken software ;)04:42
abominiusOH MY HOLY KERNEL04:42
abominius:D04:42
ubuntuThis is what I'm doing: New Partition >  Logical > leave the space to be used as it is cause I want to use all of it > I choose Begining > Ext3 > Mount Point /home... And it tells me "Can't have the end before the start!"... what does this even mean ? It is very unhelpful.04:43
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ubuntuplease04:45
ubuntuI really need to get this done tonigth04:45
runleveltenKarti: do you know if it's USB mass storage or mtp or whatever04:45
runlevelten?04:45
aguitel anyone have proble in laptops with Fan ?04:45
ubuntu!partitioning04:46
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:46
runleveltenand does amarok detect it?04:46
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zakoohi all04:46
Kartirunlevelten: It is a mp3 player. Amarok does not pick it up but asks for a mount point. The system sees it now but I am trying to mount it with a file system04:47
Kartiand as its designed for Windows I would assume that its 32bit04:47
runlevelten32 bit?04:47
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runleveltenRight. If it's, say, an mtp device you don't want to try and mount it.04:47
runleveltenSee what I mean?04:48
Karti32 bit filesystem04:48
KartiFAT3204:48
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runleveltenSo you know it's USB Mass Storage then?04:49
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ubuntuKubuntu wont let me create a /home partition during the install can ANYONE help ?04:50
ugaFetched 1811MB in 1h43m27s (292kB/s)04:50
uganow installing... =)04:50
Kartirunlevelten: it is a sigmatel mscn usb device that can act as a storage device as well04:50
ugaubuntu: you just create a partition, and set mount point at /home04:50
ugayou can do that04:50
ugaselect manual partitioning04:50
ubuntuI have04:50
ugauhm, then it should have created it04:51
TheKinghow do you install mozilla firefox04:51
ubuntuwell it wont04:51
skalI think you have to create the root partition / first04:51
runleveltenThat would be a no then. Let me hunt down the specs for you. :)04:51
ubuntuAlready created root and swap04:51
Kartirunlevelten: It is here - http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=argos&catalogId=1500000701&params=adref%3DSound+and+vision-%3EMP3+and+MP4+players-%3EMP3+players+with+portable+solid+state&productId=1500037893&referredURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.argos.co.uk%2Fwebapp%2Fwcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FProductDisplay%3FstoreId%3D10001%26catalogId%3D1500000701%26productId%3D1500004:51
KartiSorry about that....big link!04:51
ugaubuntu: I created it as a primary partition, but I don't think it should be a problem otherwise either04:52
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ubuntuI shouldn't be a problem no, but it is04:52
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skaldo you have the exact error msg ?04:53
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ubuntuAll I keep getting is error, "Can't have the end before the start!"04:53
ubuntuWhich is totally unhelpful04:53
skalmaybe you have the first and last cylinders wrong ?04:53
runleveltenKarti: Nothing useful there, except some mention of DRM, which suggests it's probably an MTP device04:54
runleveltenand not a usb mass storage one.04:54
ubuntuThis is the manual partitioning utility during the install04:54
runleveltenTry adding an mtp device in amarok :)04:54
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runleveltenwhile I google for specifics :)04:54
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ubuntuI shouldn't have to do anything more than click on the free space thats available and create my /home partition but it simply wont let me... this is annoying and inexplicable to me as I did this the other day at work and it was fine... now late at night, at home, after a Windows install effed me around for two hours, this decides its not going to work...04:56
uga|awayheh, apt restarted some services while gutsy'ing ... =)04:56
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runleveltenKarti: I wonder - on windows, does this device require that you install "windows media player"?04:56
Kartirunlevelten: When its on windows it picks it up as a USB drive and I can view its folders etc04:56
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delagrandyis kubuntu for 64 bit processors04:57
runleveltenand you have wmp installed already, I take it.04:57
ugadelagrandy: there is a 64 bit version, but even the 32 bit version can run on 64 bit processors04:57
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ubuntuI click on the free space, I click on "New Partition", I make it primary, the size should be just fine as it is, I check "Begining" for the "location for the new partition", Use as Ext3, Mount point /home.04:58
aguitel anyone have proble in laptops with Fan ?04:58
ubuntudoesnt work04:59
ugaubuntu: the only difference is that I made it reiserfs04:59
ugaelse looks same as I did04:59
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runleveltenI would install libmtp and mtptools04:59
Kartirunlevelten: only as a default in the Windows install.04:59
runleveltenthen we don't know either way. mtp support per bare minimum will come with that.05:00
KartiTried to add it as a mtp but to no avail. The others ask for a mount point05:00
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runleveltenYeah, we need to do something else first05:00
runleveltenYou have it plugged in?05:00
KartiAt the moment I would be happy if it mounted so I could transfer mp3 across :)05:00
runleveltenIf you already do, then make sure you have mtptools and libmtp installed05:00
runleveltenthen do an mtp-detect05:01
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ubuntuI don't have all night for this05:01
runleveltenYou will probably get info about the device, and you may even see the device's lights/display respond to the query.05:01
ubuntuAnd I'm supposed to do another one in the morning05:01
ugaubuntu: is that feisty?05:01
ugaor gutsy05:01
ubuntufeisty05:01
ugauhm...05:01
runleveltenIf it's MTP, you will not be able to use it through mount.05:02
runleveltenIf it supports DRM 9, then it is at least partially mtp.05:02
ugaubuntu: could I suggest one thing... boot with the live CD, create the partitions with fdisk, and runt he installer05:02
ugainstead of leaving the gui do the partitions05:02
runleveltenI don't know how many other ways I can say that.05:02
ugaat least fdisk would be more verbose05:02
Kartirunlevelten: can't find mtptools or libmtp :(05:03
Kartirunlevelten: can see a libmtp505:03
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runleveltenyeah, get libmtp5 and libmtp-dev05:03
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soc_hi05:04
soc_if i download a package source with aptitude source05:04
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soc_is there a fast way to generate the package exactly as was in the repos?05:05
soc_so to speak, without any complicated build enviroments?05:05
ugasoc_: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html05:05
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soc_i just want to change something in the source and compile it again05:05
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soc_i want to add "hide menubar" again, btw05:06
gnomefreak!compiling05:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:06
gnomefreaksoc_: see the link above05:06
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LjLsoc_, "sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>" will get you everything that's needed to compile the package, aside from build-essential, which you should install yourself before starting05:07
runleveltenKarti: It is likely that it won't immediately work with amarok.05:07
runleveltenKarti: It's mtp-detect you want to try first.05:07
Kartirunlevelten: Many thanks for the help, most appreciated - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38361/ - this is teh result of a dmesg after the libmtg5 and a mtp-detect05:07
aguitel anyone have proble in laptops with Fan ?05:07
gnomefreaksoc_: and when you run ./configure use the option, or start with ./configure --help and see what the exact text is to add it05:07
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KartiI would be happy that it could just accept folders and mp3s05:08
runleveltenwhat's the outpur of mtp-detect karti?05:08
soc_gnomefreak: i have to compile it from patched sources, because the developers removed the feature ...05:08
KartiNo MTP devices.05:08
KartiNo devices.05:08
runleveltenthat's from running it the first time or the second?05:09
LjLgnomefreak, if he's from source packages, let him just use dpkg -b05:09
Kartirunlevelten: and its plugged in and charging05:09
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gnomefreakLjL: he wanted to add an option05:09
gnomefreakthat we dont ship05:09
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runleveltenI'm having great difficulty finding any information on this player. karti :(05:09
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LjLgnomefreak: uhm, still better to edit the relevant file i think than to run configure manually, no?05:10
gnomefreakLjL: -b builds binaries of whatever we ship05:10
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gnomefreakhe cant change the source that way afaik unless theres an option to run with -b05:10
KartiNo problems, I am trying to get it to mount using this - sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/mp3Player -  but it fails on the file system - any ideas?05:11
runleveltenI wouldn't try mounting it randomly unless you want to bork it.05:11
LjLgnomefreak: uhm? but -b takes a directory. you can change what's in the directory, including, i'd assume, the files that contain the 'configure' line05:11
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gnomefreakLjL: isnt that just where to install it? like apt-get source -b=/usr/lib/bleh05:12
Kartirunlevelten: lol, true!05:12
runleveltenIt might just want a change in the source or udev rules - lots of  new devices do05:12
gnomefreakor whatever the syntax is05:12
runlevelten-new05:12
runleveltentrouble is, I don't have one, and I can't find info on it. Grr.05:12
gnomefreaki didnt think you can modify source using apt-get -b05:12
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KartiMany thanks for the help anyway05:13
LjLgnomefreak: no, i'm talking about the '-b' option of dpkg. if you use "apt-get source -b" then no, you cannot modify anything. but if you use just "apt-get source", then modify, then "dpkg -b", then you can05:13
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gnomefreakright05:13
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runleveltenKarti: I expect that it just needs an addition to your libmtp rules and will work fine.05:13
runlevelten*suspect.05:14
KartiIts something I can look into later. Looks like its the Rugby with Scots v All Blacks ;)05:14
runleveltenKarti: try this, just in case it gets picked up by one of theses: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP05:15
Kartirunlevelten: Once again many thanks for the help.....05:15
runleveltenI have several players, including creative zens and stuff that do, once that rules file has been added for "DRM9" compliant devices.05:15
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runleveltennothing to do with drm really, except that drm-compliance tends to imply mtp for anything that isn't an ipod, and the "storage device" front end on windows for that is basically...05:16
runlevelten...basically faked up :)05:16
Paradigm_Shiftgood morning/afternoon/evening05:16
runleveltenKarti: np, hope you get it sorted05:16
Paradigm_ShiftI have a Q for which I cannot find an answer05:16
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Paradigm_ShiftI archive a lot of data stored in folders on DVD05:17
Paradigm_Shiftso I always try to store as much info per DVD as possible05:17
Kartirunlevelten: Cheers, will look into it :)05:17
devianceParadigm_Shift: Named after the LTE song by any chance?05:18
Paradigm_Shiftans since I use folders, I need to grab folders efficiently05:18
Paradigm_Shiftis there any way to get Konqueror to display the size of a folder's contents (as opposed to a 4k file size of the folder file)???05:18
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Paradigm_Shiftdeviance, sorry, no05:18
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devianceOkay :P05:19
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abominiushi again05:19
Paradigm_ShiftI really want to figure out how Konqueror can display that a folder contains 900MB worth of data05:19
abominiusduring apt-get install wacom-linux-source an error has occured:05:20
abominius[: 79: 13262: unexpected operator05:20
abominiusWarning: kernel headers don't match running Linux version.05:20
abominiusBuilding wacom modules for Linux _CODE 13262 (this may take a few minutes)...dpkg: error05:20
LjLParadigm_Shift, you mean in the "Detailed" view? that would make things very, very slow. actual size must be computed by scanning each file05:20
skalParadigm_Shift: it would require for konqueror to scan *recursively* all the directories content, which would be far too slow05:20
gnomefreakabominius: make sure you have kernel-headers package for the exact kernel you are running you might have it for say 386 instead of -generic05:21
Paradigm_Shiftyes, but it would make my life much easier05:21
skalsure :)05:21
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abominiusgnomefreak: my kernel is -generic05:22
Paradigm_Shiftskal and LjL, if there was a way to turn the feature on and off then the downside can be avoided or the benefits achieved05:22
gnomefreakabominius: now install the kernel-header files for it05:22
LjLParadigm_Shift, use "du | sort -n" to list folders by size, or use konqueror's "file size" view mode05:22
gnomefreakabominius: make sure you are booted to -generic05:22
abominiusgnomefreak: on it05:23
gnomefreakabominius: sort of weird but for some reason you might also have 386 in there (i found that as odd atleast)05:23
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gnomefreakabominius: uname -a05:23
gnomefreakwhat does that give you05:23
LjLParadigm_Shift: or use kdirstat - forgot05:23
abominiusroot@aboserver:/usr/src# uname -a05:23
abominiusLinux aboserver 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux05:23
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, thanks for the suggestions, but I that does not get me where I want to be. I would like to sort folders by content size and then I can select a number of folders that will be dragged and dropped to k3b for burning05:24
kaminix|benkyouWhat's required from Apache2 to be able to open a symlink?05:24
gnomefreakabominius: install linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic05:24
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abominiusgnomefreak: already installed05:25
LjLParadigm_Shift, unfortunately kdirstat doesn't allow to drag&drop, but you *can* copy... one folder at a time, unfortunately05:25
gnomefreakabominius: than it might not be compatitble for some odd reason05:25
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abominiusi'm continuing to hate kubuntu instead05:26
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, yes. That is why I am trying to figure out how to get Konqueror (or another gui file manager) to display the actual content size for a folder in a list05:26
gnomefreakabominius: thats not a kubuntu issue you have its ubuntu issue05:26
abominiusgnomefreak: are u masochist?05:26
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gnomefreakabominius: nope05:26
Paradigm_Shiftwhen I was using Windows there were programs that fit the bill. I am trying to find a linux equivalent that let's me sort and then drag and drop a multiple selection05:27
gnomefreakmatter of fact i have kubuntu installed on all pcs except one05:27
gnomefreakParadigm_Shift: doesnt ls have an option (i think nautilus does as well)05:28
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, so I am using explorerXP under wine to sort and select, and then using Konqueror to "re-select" and drop into k3b05:28
gnomefreakor daophin05:28
gnomefreakdolphin05:28
Paradigm_Shiftgnomefreak, none do this currently05:28
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LjLwell du does05:29
LjLperhaps ls too05:29
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gnomefreakParadigm_Shift: nautilus does if you right click and go to properties05:29
abominiusgnomefreak: http://rafb.net/p/Ft5w1v51.html05:29
LjLstupid little trick...05:29
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, it is not merely displaying the information bu then takng subsequent steps05:29
gnomefreakthat will tell you the size and should allow drag and drop05:29
ubuntuOk I've found an "answer" of sorts05:29
ubuntuThis is a bug05:29
LjLParadigm_Shift: uh?05:29
ubuntuCan't manually create a partition larger than 200gig without getting that error message05:30
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gnomefreakabominius: ah i would remove the headers and install them again05:30
LjLParadigm_Shift: Directories=$(du | sort -n | awk ' { print $2 } ');   for Directory in $Directories; do touch $Directory; done            then sort by last modification date in Konqueror05:30
LjLthat won't work with filenames that have spaces05:30
abominiusgnomefreak: trying05:30
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ubuntuThis needs to be fixed ASAP05:31
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, if I am trying to find 4.37 GB worth of data to burn to DVD out of 45GB, I want to sort the folders by content size, and then select folders trying to reach exactly 4.37 GB. This will entail selecting, un-selecting and re-selecting until I get as close as I can. Then I drag and drop, then burn05:31
Paradigm_Shiftdu05:31
Paradigm_Shiftls05:31
gnomefreakabominius: ive never seen that happen with that package so i am not really much help other than knowing dpkg05:31
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Paradigm_Shiftkonsole commands that only inform, they do not allow me to do everything else05:31
LjLParadigm_Shift: not if you write a script around them05:31
LjLParadigm_Shift: anyway, my very dirty trick should allow you to do it in konqueror. you lost modification dates however05:32
LjLs/lost/lose/05:32
abominiusgnomefreak: how to [clean configuration/rebuild dependency]  with dkpg? :D05:32
gnomefreakabominius: did you remove it yet?05:32
gnomefreakwith --purge05:32
abominiusgnomefreak: removing05:32
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, ok. how do I go about implementing your code? write a bash script?05:32
gnomefreakabominius: use --purge05:33
abominiusgnomefreak: removed05:33
LjLParadigm_Shift: just type it in a console, minus any errors i've made05:33
gnomefreakabominius: now sudo apt-get autoclean05:33
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, LOL05:33
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abominiusgnomefreak: --purge <-- wich command?05:33
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LjLParadigm_Shift: ... while in the right directory05:33
LjLParadigm_Shift: though uhm, wait... if that's a CD, it won't work, because it's read-only and you can't modify dates05:34
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gnomefreakabominius: too late now05:34
abominiusgnomefreak: lol05:34
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, no worries about WORM media. I am sort ing HD so that I can then archive to DVD05:35
abominiusgnomefreak: --purge <-- wich command?05:35
gnomefreakabominius: run autoclean command than install the linux-header package again make sure you are building this for right kernel or ubuntu is missing patch for feisty kernel i have never tried to build wacom before05:35
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gnomefreakabominius: sudo apt-get remove --purge package   hint its too late if you removed it already05:35
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, the "do touch" section results in an error ("syntax error near unexpected token 'do'")05:35
abominiusgnomefreak: ok05:35
gnomefreakabominius: install the package again and try again05:36
LjLParadigm_Shift, you mistyped something, works here05:36
abominiusgnomefreak: doing :D05:36
LjLParadigm_Shift: Directories=$(du | sort -n | awk ' { print $2 } '); for Directory in $Directories; do touch $Directory; done05:36
gnomefreakim gone for a while need to rest for this coming week05:36
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, I copied and pasted ;)05:36
abominiusgnomefreak: it is dl again :)05:36
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LjLParadigm_Shift: so did i05:37
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uga|awayfinally05:37
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, LOL. SO, what is the result of that code, exactly?05:38
ugaheh, this is strange...05:38
ugaifup claijms neither eth0 nor eth1 exist05:38
ugaanybody can tell how my networking is working, then? =)05:38
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uga/home/uga# ifup eth005:39
ugaIgnoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.05:39
abominiusgnomefreak: tryng to reboot everithing after installed linux-headers05:39
uga:P05:39
LjLParadigm_Shift,  Directories=$(du | sort -n | awk ' { print $2 } ')  lists all the files [and directories]  in the current directory in order of size, and stores the result in the $Directories variable.    for Directory in $Directories; do touch $Directory; done  goes through each file and "touches" it, which results in setting its last-modification-date to the current system time05:39
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, I really appreciate your helpful suggestions and the code.05:39
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abominiusgnomefreak: no wacom installed05:39
LjLParadigm_Shift: so, it should result in bigger files having an earlier modification date than smaller files - which then allows you to sort them in Konqueror05:39
ugaanybody knows how to list network interfaces?05:39
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ugadhclient seems to work fine with eth0 =)05:40
ugathis is silly05:40
ugaheh05:40
combowhat mean Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". on fglrxinfo ??05:40
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, here is what I hoping to achieve in Konqueror http://explorerxp.com/index.html05:41
ugacombo: that your driver doesn't implement the Direct rendering interface05:41
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, click on the main picture to see it closer05:42
combouga: do u know any solution ? ;/05:43
LjLParadigm_Shift, i think i've understood it fine. only, there is no way i know of, and that script is the closest thing i can come up with (it doesn't *show* you the sizes, but it does allow you to have them *sorted* by size).   actually, kdirstat is the closest thing, but it doesn't allow drag&drop05:43
ugacombo: unless you haven't installed the proper drivers for your card, not really05:43
ugacombo: what gfx card and driver?05:43
combouga: wait... let me tell u what causes that error (before format all works)05:44
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combouga: i ve installed codecs from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - like for EDGY (cuz i have kub-7.04) and after step with 'sudo depmode -a' and adding Extension 'Composite' Disable - i made a restart and something crashed05:45
combouga: before i didn't reset between those steps and all worked05:45
combouga: now i can't take it back05:46
ugauhm... I never used ati drivers, so I can't tell05:46
michele_hi . there is a channel irc in italian language for kubuntu ?05:46
ugaI always went nvidia05:46
ugawhich doesn't do dri05:46
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combowhy everything is so problematic ://///////05:46
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combodoes anyone having ATI CARD here has installed fglrx using command 'depmod -a' ???05:47
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comboi wanna know what is this comman?? 'depmod -a'05:47
combo??05:47
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ugafinally, temperature monitors work! =)05:48
ugaCPU Temp:  +30.0C  (high = +80.0C, hyst = +75.0C)05:48
ugawhat's the "high" thing? maximum permitted?05:48
ugaor maximum reached05:48
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ugauh? in6:       +4.92 V  (min =  +1.13 V, max =  +0.56 V) ALARM05:49
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ugawhat on earth05:50
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ugaall voltages in alarm?05:50
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ugain1:      +11.46 V  (min = +11.88 V, max =  +1.74 V) ALARM05:51
ugait doesn't make much sense :/05:51
inaetyis there anyways to have mispelled words light up in red in kopete like in konqueror05:51
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Siathinaety - does kopete have a spell checker associated with it?05:52
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inaetySiath: im not sure05:53
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Siathinaety - let me look if it has one.05:53
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EmanueleThello05:54
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hsystem-x:)05:55
Siathinaety - I don't see one associated with my version05:55
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, is it possible to create an extension for Knoqueror that will display the size of a folder's content in MB or GB?05:55
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LjLParadigm_Shift, "View Modes" can be added to Konqueror, so yes, it is possible in theory05:56
LjLParadigm_Shift: but i think it would be much easier to hack into the current "Detailed View" than create an extension view05:56
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, "in theory" :)05:56
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LjLParadigm_Shift: well it requires C+ coding of course...05:56
LjL+05:56
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, yes, unfortunately. I probably would not even earn a C+ if I took a course in programming ;)05:57
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inaetySiath: darn05:57
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Siathieaety - I'm sure there is a way to have one associated with it - but erm I'm not that skilled yet05:59
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michaelHi06:03
SiathHi06:03
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LjLParadigm_Shift: get Krusader06:05
LjLit has your feature06:05
SiathKrusader? what's that?06:06
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, I will check that out. Thanks06:06
LjL!info krusader06:06
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB06:06
Siathoh! sweet :D06:06
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LjL!info dolphin06:06
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB06:06
michaelIts my first time in an ICR Chat/Channel... what du you do here? how can i find other channels06:06
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LjLmichael: this is the Kubuntu support channel. we ask and reply to Kubuntu-related support channels06:07
LjL!channels06:07
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines06:07
michaelthanks very much06:07
acee1234anyone know how to fix the bug in kdm theme manager that asks for administrative mode but no such button exists?06:07
Siathmichael - this is the 'help' for Kubuntu channel - basically if you need help ask a question - someone hopefully can answer06:07
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feierfoxmichael is'nt it sad, das you loss your IRC-virginity in a channel like this?06:08
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michaelok thanks, when i got a problem i'm goint to ask, but up to now it works perfectly06:09
Siath:D - it's good when it all works06:09
acee1234if no one knows how to fix the bug then ow to i log in as su06:10
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LjLParadigm_Shift: select all the directories you want to get the size of, right click, "Calculate size", wait, click Ok when it's finished, then you can sort by size by clicking on the Size column06:11
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, you read my mind. I was trying to figure that out06:12
LjLParadigm_Shift: didn't read your mind, just realized it wasn't entirely trivial to find out how it's done =) i found it out because it's mentioned in a changelog06:13
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Paradigm_ShiftLjL, in any event THANK YOU!!!!06:13
Paradigm_Shiftthis is exactly what I wanted to have06:13
Paradigm_ShiftLjL, you are the MAN!06:13
LjLParadigm_Shift: you're welcome, it's nice to know it can be done. although i don't think i like that file manager itself06:14
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acee1234how can i enable root login?06:16
LjL!root06:16
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:16
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acee1234ok if root is so bad then how can i access the kdm theme manager as sudo?06:19
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LjLacee1234, that's just as bad. there's no reason in the world to run the *login manager* (kdm is not a theme manager, in any way, at all) as root, unless you just *want* to be hacked06:20
TheDragonanybody want an edit password to a new wiki i just put up? msg me06:20
acee1234its the only way to change anything06:20
LjL!offtopic | TheDragon06:20
ubotuTheDragon: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:20
LjLacee1234: not really. what do you want to change?06:20
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acee1234LjL the logon screen it says hit the admistrative mode button but none exists06:21
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acee1234i googled it and it is a bud06:21
acee1234bug06:21
LjLacee1234: K / System Settings / Advanced / Login Manager.06:22
LjLthere *is* an "Administrator Mode" button there06:22
LjLand for further customization06:22
LjL!info kdmtheme06:22
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB06:22
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LjLand next time you want to know how to do something, ask straight away -- don't ask things that have no relevance, such as how to enable root06:23
acee1234i tried06:23
garfield_linux gone bad and it chand my display from ati to vesa06:23
acee1234" anyone know how to fix the bug in kdm theme manager that asks for administrative mode but no such button exists?"06:23
acee1234thank you though i fiddle with it06:24
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LjLacee1234, just install kdmtheme and have fun06:24
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acee1234kdmtheme is installed already06:25
acee1234how do i send a screen shot?06:26
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draik!wireless06:27
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:27
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maurisometime suddenly my video became with vertical lines and I'm not able to do nothing. It happens with 7.10 but also with 7.0606:30
TunaTomWow, this exclamation-mark documentation is cool. I'll just try it:06:30
TunaTom!wireless06:30
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:30
TunaTom!kde406:30
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php06:31
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TunaTom!vi06:31
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TunaTom(sorry :)06:31
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maurisometime suddenly my video became with vertical lines and I'm not able to do nothing. It happens with 7.10 but also with 7.0606:33
pookeyhey all - does anyonw know what package  /usr/sbin/base-config is in?06:33
cute_bettongok i installed the w32codecs and yet amarok still cannot play mp3's or anythig v.v06:33
cute_bettongis there something i am missing? o.o06:33
jhutchinsTunaTom: You can explore the bot by /msg and the private repleis won't clutter the channel.06:34
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jhutchins!find base-config06:34
ubotuFound: debian-edu-install06:34
cute_bettongo.o06:34
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jhutchinscute_bettong: delete ~/.xine06:37
jhutchinscute_bettong: see if that helps.06:37
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draikIf a wireless card is viewed, LSPCI and Network Settings, but it doesn't hold onto the Default Gateway info, why would that be?06:40
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jhutchinsdraik: Problems with the wep key?06:40
draikjhutchins: WEP and no WEP06:41
lipsihi hello06:41
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draikEither way, it doesn't see the AP06:41
draikEven if I enter the ESSID manually, I get nothing06:41
jhutchinsdraik: could be hardware problems does iwlist <card> scan show it?06:41
draikThe default gateway keeps resetting to 0.0.0.006:41
draikjhutchins: Not at all. It results with nothing06:42
jhutchinsdraik: If the card's showing up in iwlist/iwconfig then the drivers are supposedly loaded.06:42
jhutchinsIt should be getting a signal.06:42
draikThe card is there in lspci, but no APs when I do "iwlist eth1 scan"06:43
jhutchinsI beat my head against a similar problem for a while and finally replaced both the AP and ended up with a different card, and now they work.  If the AP and/or card are more than 2 years old they could be bad.06:43
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draikI want to blame the Dell 1390 card inside the Compaq06:44
draikBut...06:44
draikIt worked before the conversion to Kubuntu (was winxp)06:44
draikI doubt the Mini-PCI was damaged during the OS change06:44
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draikBTW, driver is loaded for the internal card, per instructions on the Wiki06:45
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draikBRB06:46
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draikkcab06:48
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HiGenixWhat's the best IDE for c++ development available for KDE?06:56
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emilsedghHiGenix: sure, kdevelop :)06:56
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draikjhutchins: What do you recommend for an internal card?06:59
sydhi, i've just reinstalled my kubuntu 7.04; i've a gf6200, and i always install nvidia-glx drivers, but this time, it doesn't work; so i've installed nvidia-glx-new drivers, but now, the xserver works good, but the console is only a black screen... after few seconds my monitor is turning off, when 'm swiching to the x (F7), everything is going back to normal06:59
draikHow are Orinoco's these days?06:59
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sydwtf is going on?07:00
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sydbtw - sorry for my poor engilsh07:00
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draik!nvidia07:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:00
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sydyeah... i've read this many times07:00
sydit always work, but not today :)07:01
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draiksudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new07:03
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sydok... i've done it, as i wrote07:06
sydbut07:06
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sydconsole doesn't work07:07
sydit's black, and the monitor is turning off07:07
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blix_Is there any Photo presentation software for Linux?07:10
draikblix_: Meaning?07:11
blix_meaning.. I have lots of photos and I want to make a DVD presentation out of them07:11
blix_is there any software under Linux that do such stuff?07:11
blix_can*07:11
draikblix_: I know there is. Let me get back to you... It's somewhere in here...07:12
blix_draik...thanks mate.07:12
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draikblix_: sudo apt-get install dvd-slideshow07:13
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blix_ooo07:14
blix_right ok...thanks draik.07:14
draikYou're welcome07:14
blix_I'll take a look07:14
draikblix_: http://dvd-slideshow.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page07:15
blix_thanks drail07:15
blix_draik*07:15
draikNP07:16
blix_how do I get into root again07:16
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blix_I keep forgetting :-S07:16
HiGenixsudo07:16
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blix_sudo doesn't work exactly, there's another way07:16
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xenolplz can someone tell me where r stored wallpapers downloaded through System Settings -> Desktop -> Get new wallpapers?07:17
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draikblix_: Also, you may want to try QDVDAuthor = "sudo apt-get install qdvdauthor"07:18
blix_right ok07:18
draikblix_: There's the ugly way. Adept.07:18
emilsedghxenol: dunno exactly, but i think it should be in ~/.kde07:18
HiGenixHow do I stop join/part events from showing up in the channel box using Konversation?07:18
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blix_'sudo -i' was the command I was looking for07:20
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blix_appears to dependancies07:22
blix_to be*07:22
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stdinHiGenix: Settings > Configure Konversation > Behaviour > Chat Window > Hide Join/Part/Nick events07:24
HiGenixstdin: Thanks07:24
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HiGenix.07:26
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acee1234Anyone know how i can change the logon theme of kubuntu kdmtheme is missing the administative mode button and i cant seem to find a tutorial for doing it manually and in advanced settings  the logonmanager does not seem to accept themes. Any ideas?07:28
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stdinacee1234: Alt-F2, kdesu kcontrol     and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu07:29
gehzumteufelhello all. so i need some help. my sound has just dropped. not sure when it did but i just went to watch a video and i get an error "no sound"07:29
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acee1234stdin alt-f2 isnt doing anything07:30
gehzumteufelif i log off and on it will come back07:30
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stdinacee1234: Alt-F2 opens the Run Dialog, you can just do KMenu > Run Command  too07:30
waylandbill_acee1234: in kcontrol, there are settings to configure kdm07:30
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acee1234perfect thank you both07:34
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garfield_i have problem with my graph card ati it was working good befor but now it gone haywire07:34
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gehzumteufelanyone?07:34
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gehzumteufelmy sound stopped working. if i log off and back on it works again. how can i re-initialize it without logging off?07:35
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garfield_the resolutotion is gone i only got 2 choises07:35
gehzumteufeland how can i stop this in the future07:35
HiGenixIn Konversation, My menu bar just disappeared, I think I pressed ctrl+M but I tried pressing it again and it hasn't come back, any solutions?07:35
garfield_when i run beryl i got the white sreen07:35
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draik_BRBSorry stdin, I didn't mean to change it often. I forgot to register the nick before changing back to available07:36
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gehzumteufelcan someone help me please?07:37
pushsynaptic is removing all essential packages.....07:38
pushhow to install other packages then?07:38
Mr_Sonomagarfield_, #ubutu_effects should be able to help or #beryl i remember going through that myself with my nvidia and it seems it was a simple xorg.conf change but i forget what exactly it was.07:38
Daisuke_Laptopyay, yes another kernel update!07:39
Daisuke_Laptopyet*07:39
Mr_Sonomagarfield_, #ubuntu_effects even LOL <------ not the best typist07:39
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Daisuke_Laptop#ubuntu-effects07:39
Daisuke_Laptopno underscore07:39
garfield_Mr_Sonoma: it's not beryl but my graph card07:39
Mr_Sonomaoh its a dash07:39
Mr_Sonoma??07:39
draikgarfield_: Did you install your required drivers? I had the same issue when I was using the wrong driver for my nVidia card07:39
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garfield_draik: didnt had to it choose the option ati and everything was working good beryl etc i had even a lot of resolution to choos but it's bein,g one day i didnt went on linuc i came back and i saw everything big and beryl  got a white screen when i launch it07:41
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gehzumteufelhelp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:41
ugadial 11207:41
gehzumteufellol07:41
garfield_91107:41
draikgarfield_: I would chalk that up to a bad driver07:41
gehzumteufelthats probably more help than anyone here has been for me the past 10mins07:42
push10007:42
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draik411?07:42
gehzumteufelhaha07:42
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draik7-1107:42
waylandbill_I lose window decorations with compiz-fusion, so I gave up.07:42
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garfield_draik: the last day i was looking how to install my webcam trust i was doing all types of thing to get it installl after thatsPipet day is when everything gone bad07:43
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garfield_stdin: help please :(07:43
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=== garfield_ give stdin candy
garfield_:)07:44
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=== gehzumteufel takes all the candy away cause i need help!
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darxhi folks07:45
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darxhow can i install kde4 for gutsy?07:45
shadowhywindhay all, does anyone have any ideas on what to do when fsck comes back with Too many files need repair.?07:45
garfield_lol07:45
gehzumteufellol07:46
draik!off-topic07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:46
draik!off topic07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:46
draik!offtopic07:46
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:46
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Daisuke_Laptop!botabuse07:47
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...07:47
Daisuke_Laptop:P07:47
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darxguys how can i install kde4?07:47
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Daisuke_Laptop!kde407:47
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php07:47
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phantom_     ?07:47
hydrogenthats not english!07:47
Daisuke_Laptop!ru07:47
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:48
gehzumteufelphantom_: priviet07:48
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ugaheh, what's the name for the compiz configurator?07:48
garfield_draik: when i go in monitor display to change my graph card when i enter the passwr it say conversation with su failed07:48
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ugaI had used beryl in the past, so I'm lost in the compiz world back07:48
darxDaisuke_Laptop: thanks..07:48
HiGenixHow do I show the menu bar in Konversation?07:49
gehzumteufelso i guess i cant get my sound working again without logging off/on07:49
draikWhat is the command again for the system settings? kdesu system settings or something similar...?07:49
gehzumteufelcause no one will help me07:49
gehzumteufelHiGenix: ctrl+m07:49
ugaHiGenix: Ctrl+M07:49
HiGenixI've tried that, it didn't work. :(07:49
ugaoh, I'm slow typing ;)07:50
gehzumteufelclose it and then reopen it?07:50
gehzumteufelthen try it again07:50
ugaHiGenix: maybe the shortcut is changed for your system. That's the default. IT shows the shortcut when hiding it...07:50
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ugaHiGenix: if nothing else... rm .kde/share/config/konversationrc07:50
ugashould do07:50
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ugaor edit the file to see the shortcut07:51
gehzumteufeluga: do you know how to re-initialize a soundcard?07:51
ugagehzumteufel: reloading the module works?07:51
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gehzumteufeluga: by restarting alsa?07:52
ugarmmod-ing I meant07:52
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ugano idea if alsa does restart devices07:52
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gehzumteufelit doesnt07:52
gehzumteufelcause it didnt work07:52
gehzumteufelbut i dont know about rmmod-ing07:52
gehzumteufelim still a n00b07:52
duns_sgehzumteufel: heute nich07:52
duns_sgehzumteufel: bin kein theologe...07:53
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ugalsmod will list all the drivers being used. Check if you can recognise the driver of the soundcard. rmmod <drivername>. modprobe <drivername>07:53
gehzumteufelduns_s: lol07:53
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ubuntuhi here07:54
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blix__how do I get into GRUB?07:55
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blix__is this built into Ubuntu?07:55
Kachnagot a trouble,my grub fails to load, so i wanna grub-install, already chrooted to my installation but cant access hda, any ideas?07:55
gehzumteufeluga: it seems to say that its in use07:55
gehzumteufelwith any of the sound modules i try to restart07:56
gehzumteufelor whatever rmmod does07:56
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ugaurghm... why do developers decide to use such clever and intuitive names... ccrm07:57
ugaman...07:57
ugaccsm, rather07:57
young_linxhi07:57
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young_linxi need help with ubuntu, to private please07:57
emilsedgh!hi | young_linx07:57
ubotuyoung_linx: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:57
ugayoung_linx: there's no privacy here ;)07:58
gehzumteufelugh im over this. logging off and on07:58
young_linxwho can tell me how to deinstall ubuntu?07:58
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ugayoung_linx: uninstall completely?, just format the partitions07:58
young_linxuga through what07:58
draikyoung_linx: sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop07:59
hydrogenerr07:59
hydrogenthat won't help07:59
ugayoung_linx: boot any live CD, and mkfs.vfat whatever you want formatted07:59
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ugahydrogen: well, why not =)07:59
HiGenixuga: Thanks for the help, I edited konversationirc and it works fine, there's a value about 10 lines down you can set to "True".07:59
hydrogenuga: that was to draik07:59
ugaaok07:59
draikI figured Kubuntu was installed at well07:59
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draikI have Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu on my desktop07:59
draikDepends how I feel08:00
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young_linxuga: what should i do first08:00
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Kachnacmon please,i cant find a clue on wiki,cant boot to my system :{08:00
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TonrenWhen I hit Ctrl + L to manually refetch all feeds in Akregator, the feed icons dim and lighten, showing that it's finding them, but they don't actually update.08:00
Kachnajust chrooted on mz disk and now...08:00
draikKachna: Check your drives for possible failure to the MBR08:01
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Kachnambr seems to be ok,that selection table loads up,but then when loading it sazs disk error...08:01
Kachnai have /boot on separate partition, so all i need is to run my grub-install :/08:02
draikHave you used SGD08:02
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KachnaSDG?08:03
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Kachnanever heard about it08:03
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draikSGD08:03
Kachnaoh08:03
draikThen you haven't been looking08:03
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Kachnasupergrub<08:03
Kachna?08:03
Dr_willislets be more vague! :)08:04
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draikDr_willis: ...?!?! LOL08:04
Dr_williswhen the system boots - it says 'disk error' ?08:04
Dr_willisthis is after the grub menu, and ya pick what os to boot? :)08:05
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Kachnaright after i select kernel,i get grub error 2508:05
Kachnaand grub error 25 is disk error afaik >/] 08:05
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Dr_willisa quick google - impls that may be an error in your grub menu.lst configs08:06
ugauhm... the beryl configurator was much better08:06
Dr_willishttp://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=1284508:06
ugahow does one set up windecos on this thing08:07
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Dr_willis25 : Disk read error08:07
Dr_willis This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to probe or read data from a particular disk.08:07
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Dr_willisif its trying to access the wrong disk. :) thats an error.08:07
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KachnaDr_willis: well but here we come, I'm almost sure that menu.lst is ok, sometimes it boots up sfter few attempts..08:08
Dr_willisKachna,  that sounds like the hd is not responding in time. Is this a USB hard drive?08:09
Dr_willisif its not usb - that sounds more and more like a drive is dieing to me.08:09
Kachnai've read somewhere it may dislike reiserfs,so i made /boot partition with ext3 but it remains :'[08:09
Dr_willisif iI never use reiserfs for anything . :) so cant help ya either way there.08:09
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Dr_willisThis is a normal IDE drive however?08:10
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Kachnawell however it's not the case anymore since there's ext now...well maybe really dying hdd,but strange is that it's the only place with errors :[08:10
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Kachnait's common barracuda ata 7200.7, connected with ata13308:11
Kachnaso one of the most common disks >P08:11
ugaI see.. aquamarine doesn't start08:11
ugalets ditch compiz... beryl & aquamarine rocks ;)08:12
Dr_williscould be a goofy ide cable, or ide controler also. :) i had a case that 'cut' through one wire of my ide drive the other day...08:12
Dr_willistook me forever to  figure that out.08:12
Dr_willis'whats this one wire dangling from this ide cable for......'08:12
Kachnabut has few years...looks like I'll need a new one :'[ tried more cables..damn,another cash gonne,trying to get money for new guitar amp...doh!08:13
Kachna*gone08:13
TonrenI'm getting "fetch errors" when I try to fetch a feed in Akregator.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?08:13
young_linxsomebody help me with deinstallation ubuntu08:13
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Kachnayoung_linx: cmon just format the partition...what's the problem?08:15
young_linxkacha i can't format it by format08:15
young_linxfrom dos08:15
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Biovoreyoung_linx: what you tring to do.. reinstall linux or go back to windows?08:15
young_linxbecause dos can't see this partition08:15
young_linxgo back to windows08:15
draikHow can I copy a whole folder over through ssh?08:16
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Kachnayoung_linx: you can use fdisk08:16
Biovoreyoung_linx: throw the windows disk in the drive.. then delete all the partition and create 1 paration for windows.. should work from there..08:16
Biovoredraik: scp -r <folder> <username>@<host>:<path/to/file>08:17
draik"scp folder_name myUser@my.local.ip.address:/my/folder/location/"  won't work.08:17
young_linxlinux fdisk or windows fdisk?08:17
draikThank you08:17
Biovoreboth would work08:17
Biovoreman scp08:17
Kachnayoung_linx: doesn't matter >/] 08:17
draikI was missing "-r"08:17
Kachnaok u guys are faster...:] 08:17
young_linxwindows fdisk can't see linux partition08:17
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Biovorexp does..08:18
Biovorejust says unknow partition..08:18
draikI thought so too, but missing the "-r" stated "MyMusic: not a regular file"08:18
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TonrenAnyone?  Fetch errors?  Akregator?08:18
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young_linxBiovore: see i load from the boot cd with xp08:19
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young_linxand run dos fdisk08:19
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ugaI can't understand why, if compiz fusion is meant to replace beryl, why beryl remains working better08:19
Kachnai did it few times,there definitely is that partition :P08:19
draikk9copy sure is taking it's sweet glorious time. I'm trying to backup my DVDs to an external HDD so I can take it to work and watch it when I have free time, but it seems to be taking about 2:30 hours for a DVD08:19
Biovoredos fdisk... you installing win98 or something?08:19
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BluesKajowdy all :)08:20
BluesKajrr howdy08:20
ugawb Blues08:20
Kachnaoh mz...08:21
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draikKachna: What's going on with your "y" key? It's a "z" everytime.08:22
KachnaDr_willis: can i use debian installation cd's repair mode to repair ubuntu's grub?08:22
Dr_willisyou could use any live cd to repiar the system08:22
Kachnadraik: i'm on live cd to fix my grub, having wrong charset :] 08:23
Dr_willisboot cd. mount your / and stuff, chroot over. fix the stuff.08:23
Dr_willisor just mount it. edit the menu.lst08:23
Dr_willisbrb08:23
KachnaDr_willis: that's the problem,when i mount my /dev/hda1, it looks ok but folder is empty -/-08:24
Kachnadammit :] 08:24
BluesKajy fglrx driver isn't co-operating ...reinstalled the patched and modded version but i think the proprietary version that was recommended (which didn't supply DRI and 3D that it was supposed to do) caused a prob which is still in effect.08:25
Kachnabrb08:25
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Oh dear.  Your windows won't wobble now.  hatever will you do?08:28
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BluesKajhutchins, I don't use beryl ..i just want my google earth to work :)08:29
Tonrenhahaha08:29
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maurisomeone knows knetworkmenager08:30
draikI haven't been anywhere recently for me to update my Google Earth app08:31
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draikAnywhere interesting, anyway08:32
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ugauhm... having a cpu that supports virtualization, what's best option to load virtual machines? xen? virtualbox? vmware?08:33
ugawill all of them do winders?08:34
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BluesKajell, i have relatives and children living in different countries and i have always been a bit of a geography freak so google earth is important to me.08:34
draikI use vmware08:34
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Daisuke_Laptopvirtualbox for ease-of-setup08:34
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ugaI used both vmware and virtualbox in the past. I never used xen so far (I failed badly at setting it up)08:35
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BluesKajw08:35
ugaI just never had a virtualization supporting cpu before08:35
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hydrogenBluesKaj: have you tried using marble?08:36
draikI don't have the option to CTRL+ALT+ESC and kill an app. How do I get that back?08:37
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BluesKajyeah , marble doesn't cut it  for me08:37
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KachnaOMG08:39
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wolfsongI tried installing kubuntu-desktop and while I get the kubuntu login, the desktop is still gnome08:39
Kachnawolfsong: change it on login screen08:40
Kachnalike session or so08:40
Dr_willisyep.08:40
Dr_willisI dont understand why people think their desktop should change.. :) they are all just apps running on X.08:40
Kachna:-)08:40
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Dr_willisthe session menus can be very well hidden on some of the login screens however.08:40
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maurisomeone knows knetworkmenager08:40
Kachnathat's right,but hardly ever by default08:40
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Dr_willisheh.08:41
Pitabredwolfsong: did you select to use a KDE session instead of a Gnome session?08:42
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KachnaDr_willis: tried repairing grub from debian, no chance, so i wanna do from live cd, but i can't even access that hdd :-(08:42
Kachnaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk /dev/hda08:42
KachnaUnable to open /dev/hda08:42
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draikDr_willis: You mean it's not?!?!08:42
wolfsongPitabred: I don't know08:42
mauriamule does not connected to edonkey server08:42
wolfsongdo you select that at login?08:42
Dr_willisKachna,  mount it.. if you cant mount it.. then.. what kind of hd/filesystem is iit?08:42
PitabredYEah08:42
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PitabredThere should be a little menu to the bottom right08:42
Kachna partitions, / and /boot08:43
Pitabredkubuntu-desktop doesn't replace gnome, it just adds kde08:43
Kachnaand others not required to do this ofc08:43
Kachna / is reiser, /boot is ext08:43
Kachna308:43
wolfsongbut to get kde menus, etc. I use the menu?08:43
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Pitabred...what?  At the login screen, there's a little paper-like icon that should allow you to select a KDE-session, last session, gnome-session, etc.08:44
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PitabredSelect the KDE session when you login, and you'll be using the KDE desktop instead of the Gnome desktop08:44
wolfsongok thanks Pitabred08:45
uga... which is best you can do ;)08:45
ugathen apt-get ditch gnome ;)08:45
ugauh... shame... still not implemented08:45
wolfsongand how do I switch back to gdm?08:45
PitabredNotice how I said it had "gnome session" as an option?08:45
ugawolfsong: I guess, just like kdm, there's a service called gdm for ubuntu. /etc/init.d/gdm08:45
Dr_willisthe menu to use for the session also moves around depending on the theme. :)08:46
Pitabredkdm and gdm do the same job.  You only need one.08:46
wolfsongit seems at one time I found a package that let you select which display manager you wanted to use when X started08:46
Dr_willisgdm uses a slightly different menu/layout also.08:46
PitabredThey will both allow you to use either a gnome or KDE session08:46
Kachnaubuntu@ubuntu:/mnt/root/boot/grub$ cat ./device.map08:46
Kachna(fd0)   /dev/fd008:46
Kachnaisn't fd0 a floppy?08:46
wolfsongPitabred: yes I know but I've never used kde so I'd like to check it out a lil08:46
Dr_willisyes. its sain /dev/fd0 is a floppy08:47
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Dr_willis(hd0)   /dev/sda08:47
Dr_willisis saying my first sata drive is hd0 on my setup08:47
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jm87hoe i can find xgl for my kubuntu08:47
Kachnawell,but shouldn't /boot/grub be empty? coz i use another partition for /boot08:47
ScorpKingfor sata sda08:47
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Dr_willisKachna,  correct. You need to mount/check  the parittion you set up for /boot/08:48
Dr_willissince on a normal boot of your system /boot gets mounted from that /dev/whatever you set it up in the fstab08:49
ugait's a shame... given there's no good way to run wine on 64bit, I'm forced to install theBeast08:49
Kachnayep just mounted,and there's (hd0)   /dev/hda in device.map noe08:49
Dr_willisKachna,  its possible you got 2 /boot dirs. One on / with stuff in it.. then the /dev/whatever/yasetasBoot08:49
Dr_willisand are getting stuff confused between the 208:49
Kachnayep,looks like the problem08:50
Kachnals ../lost*08:50
Kachnadamn08:50
Dr_willisthats why i rarely mess with a seperate /boot these days08:50
Dr_willisGentoo does it  by default that way.08:50
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Dr_willisI always make a "This is /boot/ and should be empty  since its not the real boot" file in my /boot/ directory to remine me that /boot is NOT mounted yet. :)08:51
jm87where can i find xgl for  mykubunu08:51
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jm87*kubuntu08:51
Dr_willisjhutchins,  yep. and by default it dosent mount it. or at least it used to not do that.08:51
Dr_willisi aint touched gentoo in ages.08:51
Kachnatried installing gentoo,but too difficult for such a noob...well,more like it's long,and after i did one my disk failed,so i decided to use my old disk as i ever did for both data and system,but wanted something faster to get working :P08:51
stdinjm87: it's in Adept "xserver-xgl"08:51
jhutchins!xgl | jm8708:51
ubotujm87: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:51
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Kachnawell...now...08:52
jhutchinsKachna: Gentoo is a 1 - 2 day install on average hardware.08:52
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Kachnajhutchins: yep,and i needed to have it working today,so >.<08:53
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Kachnawell,what to do now...what if i unmount hda7 (/boot), then rm -rf blah(where it's mounted)/boot/grub,then chroot into system and grub-install..?08:54
ugajhutchins: it took me half a day on my first install, on a P3 1GHz08:54
ugajhutchins: but you'll keep installing new packs for days, just like with other distros08:54
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ugajhutchins: it has taken me 3-4 days to have it done right, with kubuntu, on this new box ;))08:55
jhutchinspacks.  sounds like game extensions.08:55
ugajhutchins: hey, what do you think d P kg installs?08:56
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draikd pkg.... Hmmm.. Kinda looks like Debian PacKaGes, but I could be wrong08:56
ugayup, packs ;)08:57
ugaif it sounds like game extensions it's not my fault. rpm and dpkg chose same term08:57
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ugathe only ones off this, are tarball based distros ;)08:58
ugagood auld slack...08:58
uganow, not sure what sounds better, if either installing packs, or balls08:58
Kachnahey,cleaned /boot (woth unmounted boot partition ofc.), so now,what can i do to prevent having stuff there again? O.o08:59
wolfsongok so I've got a kde session now but I notice the cursor drifts quite a bit...how do I adjust it?08:59
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acee1234Im trying to use compiz but any combination involving the "super" button does not work. any ideas?09:01
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ugawolfsong: does it? uhm... it may be a bug in the kdm themer if so09:02
ugait may not be capturing mouse position, or defining part locations properly09:02
ugawolfsong: oh, you mean _inside_ kde?09:02
uganot in kdm09:02
ugathat's strange09:02
Dr_willisthe keymap/board/lapout in the xorg.conf may be wrokg acee123409:02
Dr_williswrong. :)09:02
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KachnaDr_willis: well, tried all the stuff,cleaned everything up(i hope),but when i chroot into my system and rung grub-install, i get this :-( no idea why: /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.09:03
Dr_willisOption          "XkbModel"      "pc105"09:03
Dr_willis        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"09:03
wolfsonguga: yes the pointer drifts at a 45 degree angle as soon as I touch the touchpad09:03
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Dr_willisKachna,  some times it finds it and other times it dont?09:03
ugaI got disconnected and didn't notice. sorry =(09:03
uga[21:01]  <uga> wolfsong: oh, you mean _inside_ kde?09:03
uga[21:01]  <uga> not in kdm09:03
uga[21:02]  <uga> that's strange09:03
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KachnaDr_willis: nope, i can mount it,chroot there, but can't open with fdisk and neither use with grub-install -.-09:04
Dr_willisKachna,  oh wait.. when chrooting..  the /dev/ stuff needs to be fixed also.. becase your chrooted / is NOT using the same /dev/ as it should be.09:04
Kachna:09:04
wolfsongdoesn't happen in gnome or e1709:04
Dr_willisKachna,  i forget the detauls however. but your real /dev/ has stuff in it.. the chrooted /dev/ dose NOT09:04
wolfsongchanging touchpad sensitivity doesn't help09:04
Kachnayep it's kinda more empty :/09:04
Dr_willistheres like 2 commands needed to be done befor chrooting to get /dev/ and /proc right09:05
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Kachnagonna google a bit again09:06
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ugauhm.. beryl09:06
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ugaswitching desktops with beryl/compositing in use  isn't a good idea09:06
KachnaDr_willis: but i can still use hd0,can't i?09:07
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Dr_willisKachna,  its one of the THINGS i learned from gentoo... the following...09:07
Dr_willis# mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc09:07
Dr_willis# mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev09:07
Kachnamean if i get into grub console09:07
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Kachnaoo09:07
Dr_willisKachna,  where 'gentoo' is your chroot mount point. :)09:07
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Kachnagreat, thanks a lot man!09:08
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Dr_willisi did learn a lot from playing with gentoo for a few months. :)09:08
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michiwendjemand da, der etwas auf deutsch erklren kann?09:10
stdin!de09:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:10
michiwendthx!09:10
KachnaDr_willis: k i feel done now,rebooting to my system...maybe :-)09:10
Kachnathanx a lot,will be back :P btw,this is freenode,isn't it?09:11
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Kachnanvm i see09:11
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michiwendguten abend!09:11
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michiwendhab mal ne frage an jemanden, der sich bisschen auskennt09:12
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ubotumichiwend: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:12
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kloplopis there a way I can do an If statement in a bash script?09:13
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ScorpKingkloplop: there is #bash09:13
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kloplopan example would be helpfull09:13
stdinkloplop: yeah "if STATEMENT; then DO THIS; else DO THAT; fi09:14
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dudeiclesdoes anyone here know how to make an iso image from a CD with Kubuntu?09:14
ScorpKinghi dudeicles!09:14
dudeicleshey there ScorpKing09:14
emilsedghdudeicles: use k3b09:14
dudeicleshow's it going?09:14
stdinuse K3B in KMenu > Multimedia > K3B09:14
dudeiclesok09:15
dudeiclesis it easy to do?09:15
ScorpKingdudeicles: i'm great. dd if=/dev/hdd of=dvdimage.iso09:15
kloplopI know VB .NET, and php, I am not ignorant, but can someone describe how to do an IF statement and a random number creation?09:15
kloplopin Bash09:15
ScorpKingdudeicles: or whatever your drive is for /dev/hdd09:15
dudeicleshmmm09:15
dudeiclesI think it's like /media/cdrom009:16
stdindudeicles: yeah, Tools > Copy CD, and choose the "Only create image"09:16
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stdinkloplop: I just told you how to do an if statement, see #bash and http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/09:17
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Kachnaoh my :-(09:18
kloplopyeah well, "#bash" doesn't really give too much ingotmation on that(it isn't an example with variabls)09:18
kloplopvariables*09:18
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stdinkloplop: #bash is a channel09:19
stdinabout bash as it happens09:19
kloplopohh09:19
kloplopok sorry09:19
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KachnaDr_willis: so,a change,now grub doesn't even try to load,so my guess,he looks for it on /dev/hda1/boot, but it's on /dev/hda7 ....well I'm almost sure it's the case, -> can i just move one to the other and remove the hda7(boot) from fstab?09:21
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theakkihi, ich hab ein problem mit mein wlan, in andere netze komme ich ohne probleme. ber Knetwork-manager auch in wpa oder wep netzte. jetzt bin ich hier am studienort und da kann ich nicht mit dem wlan verbinden. ich habe die bcm4318 karte.... was luft hier schief? - habe schon die verschlsselung vollstndig rausgenommen.09:26
stdin!de | theakki09:26
ubotutheakki: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:26
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BrightEyes`hello! how can i configure my network connection via dhcp from command line? i cant connect to the internet!09:26
draikBrightEyes`: wireless or wired?09:27
theakkithx, i change in the german channel09:27
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BrightEyes`draik: wired my friend. can i pm you please?09:28
draikSure09:28
jhutchinsBrightEyes`: sudo dhclient <interface> where <interface> is the name of the adapter, eth0, wlan0, whatever.09:28
draikThere you go09:28
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BrightEyes`jhutchins: if it has a gateway?09:37
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nazeehhi everyone, got a small issue. Adept-updater refuses to work b/c it says that the database is locked. I think that's b/c it crashed earlier. I removed the lock file from /var/lib/dpkg but still doesn't work. Any ideas?09:38
hagabakaagh i hate the "no public key found" error from apt09:38
jhutchins!fixapt | nazeeh09:38
hagabakawhy doesn't it just provide an option to fix it, instead of making me have to look up the commands to fix it every time?09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:38
jhutchins!aptfix | nazeeh09:38
ubotunazeeh: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:38
jhutchinsnazeeh: sorry.09:39
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nazeehubotu: thanks! i'll give that a shot now09:39
nazeehworked! Thanks guys!09:40
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Kachnaomg!09:40
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Dr_willisOMG! Ponies! :)09:43
Dr_willisWeee!09:43
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denmax_xshi people .. :)09:47
denmax_xsi am new around here. and was lookin for some advice on setting up network settings on my new  ubuntu 7.04 .09:47
ugauh... what on earth09:47
ugakubuntu uses dolphin now as default browser?09:47
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NickPrestauga, in gutsy, yep09:48
ugaif only it worked ...09:48
ugamedia:/ led me to an empty thing09:48
uga:/09:48
ugaI had to press "storage media"09:48
stdinit's gutsy, it breaks often :)09:48
ugawhat's the point on bringing kde4 stuff tooooo quickly09:48
NickPrestauga, for me, using Feisty, media:/ works...09:48
denmax_xsi did try to get into the general ubuntu channel. but it says that i am banned  ! i have no idea why that would happen09:48
ugaNickPresta: that's the point. gutsy seems to use dolphin, instead of konqui09:49
ugaand doesn't quite work, right now09:49
Dr_willisuga,  ive having some big issues with little things in gutsy. :) i am going to wait for them to release Service Pack 1 for it.. befor i upgrade. :)09:49
stdinuga: it's not the kde4 app, it's completely different in kde409:49
ugaoh, so it's the previous dolphin09:49
NickPrestauga, i meant in Dolphin on Feisty, it works. I'm sure it will work fine when Gutsy is released09:49
ugauhm... I reloaded again,... and this time it showed up09:50
ugasounds like it had a glitch09:50
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Dr_willisI cant get gutsy to play nice with my windows shared direcrotyes.. :(  but thats not a topic for here.. aparently its not a topic on the gutsy bug listings either.. cant find any related info.09:51
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stdindenmax_xs: please join #ubuntu-ops to see why you are banned from #ubuntu09:53
denmax_xsoh . alright .. thanks stdin09:53
denmax_xsby the way ,  could u help me on  a small issue on ubuntu ?09:53
stdinI don't use Ubuntu so I don't know how to navigate in gnoem09:54
Dr_williscliock here, click there.. :) whats to know.09:54
Dr_willisits designed where a monkey can use it.. (oh wait did i say that outloud)09:54
denmax_xsoh . alright . thanks anyways09:54
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Dr_willisShe got dizzy with the Wobbly windows. I had to turn them off. :)09:55
denmax_xsi am suprised .. even women use linux ? i havent come across that before , dr_willis09:55
Dr_willisshe can launch  the pysol game, and her web browser.. thats all she needs.09:55
NickPrestadenmax_xs, why would you be surprised that women use GNU+Linux?09:56
TeePOGmy wife loves Linux too09:56
Dr_willisoh she did like how  she could do the yahoo chat and be 3 different people in the same room. :)09:56
denmax_xsbecaseu, nickpresta  - i have never heard of any females using linux .. atleast the people whom i have spoken to09:57
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stdin!women09:58
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.09:58
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NickPrestaBeryl/Compiz-Fusion was all my girlfriend needed to see to want to switch. "Wobbly Windows? Write in Fire?"09:59
NickPrestalol09:59
xluchoxI need help with wifi09:59
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draikNickPresta: Write in Fire?10:00
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Dr_willistheres a compwiz gimmic ya hit some keys and draw with the mouse and it 'draws' in fire on the screen10:00
Dr_willisand an annoate feature thats similer.10:00
Dr_willislets you draw on top of the desktop10:00
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Dr_willisat least i could see THAT being usefull in some cases10:01
draikIs that in Beryl or just Compiz?10:01
Dr_williswho knows any more. :)10:01
Dr_willisthe whole state of the thing has me totally mistified.10:01
NickPrestayeah. I find a lot of "average" Windows users are surprised that they can do "Mac-esque" stuff on their desktop with older hardware. It appears to be a major point-of-sale in most conversions I have seen...10:01
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Dr_willisNickPresta,  Marketing beats functionalty! the core of apples success!10:02
Dr_willis:)10:02
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NickPrestaDr_willis, heh.10:02
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Dr_willisspeaking of windows :)   be carefull if buying Halo3 --->>  http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=901010:03
NickPrestaDr_willis, does that contain spoilers?10:03
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neothecatgood afternoon.  i am getting an error while doing "aptitude install openssh-server".  i get invoke-rc.d errors. this is in feisty.  is there a way to get more information on whats causing this error?  ican't find any logs.10:04
Dr_willisNickPresta,  if you consider spending $130 on a super-deluz edition, that wont even load a spoiler.. :)10:04
Dr_willisNickPresta,  aprently the dcvd's are lose in the cases.. getting all scratched up10:04
NickPrestaDr_willis, ah okay. I have my preorder for the 360.10:05
Dr_willisNickPresta,   leading to   unplayable/installable disks. :)10:05
NickPrestaneothecat, I'm going to do some research right now. Give me a minute10:05
Dr_willisNot sure if this is for the 360 or PC  ones.10:05
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streppelheya10:06
NickPrestaneothecat, it would help if we could have the exact invoke-rc.d error10:06
streppelwhere can i get "aclocal" from?10:06
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spartan01hey, has anyone elses added a repository that refused to let APM open afterwards?10:06
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dudeicleshas anyone here used Virtuallbox10:07
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kranshihola10:08
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neothecatNickPresta: invoke-rc.d: initscript ssh, action "restart" failed.10:08
dudeiclesI have win XP installed on my virtualbox and want to be able to access my extra hard drives10:08
kranshihola10:08
streppelwhere can i get "aclocal" from?10:08
kranshihi10:08
kranshi?10:08
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neothecatNickPresta: then a little further down... "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"10:09
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NickPresta!hi | kranshi10:09
ubotukranshi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:09
kranshipero no nadie habla spanish10:09
kranshi?10:09
kranshithat great! xD10:09
kranshinot speak english perfect bot i cant talk with u10:10
kranshi!10:10
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NickPresta!es | kranshi10:10
ubotukranshi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:10
streppelwhere can i get "aclocal" from?<---pls help,i googled and i tryed to use aptitude10:10
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NickPrestastreppel, are you sure you don't have it? In a konsole, type `aclocal`10:11
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streppelThe program 'aclocal' can be found in the following packages:<---moooo10:11
streppelnvm it is in automake xD10:11
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Dr_willisHaving issues NickPresta ?10:17
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guhhhhow do i change the default browser thats opened when i click a link?10:20
streppelopen the browser you want to there should be a "set as default" option or so10:21
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Ace2016i got a laptop today :)10:22
cloakableHow well does compiz/XGL work with dual screens and dual cards?10:22
Ace2016i asked for xp and the guy said it was going to be 180 extra :(10:22
streppelcloak it supports it and as you see in severald vids on google it works quiet nice10:22
streppelyoutube,not google*10:22
cloakablestreppel: Heh, I can't view youtube for some reason, but thanks10:23
streppelxD10:23
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Ace2016Anyone know how i can backup a partition to dvd?10:25
Hueyis it possible to run the installer without booting from the cd?10:25
Hueyperhaps by running it in a chroot jail or something?10:26
Huey(i don't have cd-rom drive, and would like to install kubuntu on another partition)10:26
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streppelanyone here playing Anarchy online with cedega?10:28
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newsense07i have an app that is constantly maximized beyond my desktop and have to use and and the mouse to view certain areas of the window, any help ?10:33
newsense07and=alt10:34
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squidlickany reason why i would be expierencing software crashes??10:35
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emilsedghsquidlick: every software in the rowld, crashes...10:36
squidlickso any reason why the os it self crashes sometimes?10:37
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garfieldhow do i get to window channel?10:38
emilsedghsquidlick: os is a software too :)10:38
mrayanybody knows how to add a open ssh account?10:38
streppelwhat could be the reason for a sometimes freezing system where can't even kill the X?10:38
USMarinestreppel hardware..10:38
streppelwhat exaclty?10:38
garfieldhow do i get to window channel?10:38
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streppelit's not the ram,i already tested it10:38
newsense07streppel: when it freezes can you change to another terminal ?10:39
USMarinestreppel i had power problems before causing exactly that10:39
newsense07cntrl+alt+f110:39
streppelnope10:39
streppeli can't kill the x(ctl10:39
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streppelctrl+alt+backspace nor change to another term10:39
newsense07possibly a non responsive process whith keyboard control+mouse control?10:41
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squidlickis it possible to install flash,java,and other plugins for konquerer on 64bit kubuntu? or do you have to do the 32bit install of mozilla?10:42
streppelnewsense: what does sthis mean?10:42
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USMarinesquidlick flash no10:42
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dobohow do i use unicode values in KATE?10:42
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USMarinedobo tools -> encoding10:43
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dobothanks USMarine10:43
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hsystem-xlol10:44
dobowhat about the other buttons??10:45
doboif i wanted to put in 010110:45
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doboalt+ doesn't work :(10:45
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hsystem-xlol10:47
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hsystem-xi have a question, how do i do auto identify on konversation10:47
hsystem-xi configure it to do NickServ IDENTIFY10:47
hsystem-xthen password.10:47
streppelUSMarine what kind of power problems?10:48
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USMarinestreppel 20pin to 24pin boards10:49
newsense07hsystem-x: /msg nickserv identify password10:49
hsystem-xaja, but i want auto identify10:50
streppelmhhh nope,my MB has a 24 pin and my power supply has it,too10:50
hsystem-xi mean dont want to write it all the time.10:50
newsense07hsystem-x: if your using konversation put that in the commands prompt10:50
USMarinestreppel leave the system doing a memtest at night10:50
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streppelUS i already did it last night10:50
hsystem-xok im in the identities settings10:50
hsystem-xwhat do i put in service10:51
newsense07using konversation ?10:51
hsystem-xyes10:51
newsense07file>serverlist>edit10:51
streppelup to how much tests i have to let it do until i can be sure it is all right?10:51
streppelcause i stopped @ about 2210:51
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newsense07hsystem-x: put where it says commands10:51
ScorpKinghsystem-x: add  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY password the commands under server list10:52
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USMarinestreppel leave it running for 5 hours10:53
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hsystem-xnice, thank  you.10:53
newsense07np10:53
hsystem-xi was trying to do it, by the auto identify section10:53
newsense07i had the same problem before10:53
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hsystem-xhave you tried the gutsy tribe 4?10:54
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streppeland crash again -.-10:56
hsystem-xLOL10:56
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dobohow do i input utf8 characters??10:56
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doboi've tried alt+ ctrl alt+10:57
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hsystem-x!gutsy10:58
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+110:58
streppel_-.-10:58
streppel_damnd damnd damnd10:58
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dobo!utf810:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utf8 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:59
dobo:(10:59
guhhh!picpaste10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about picpaste - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:59
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streppelcould it be my graficcard?11:00
hsystem-xam11:00
hsystem-xstreppel, what are you trying to solve?11:00
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streppelsuddenly uptoming freezes of the whole system,not jsut x11:01
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streppelupcoming*11:01
hsystem-xwhat was the last thing you modified in the system?11:01
streppelnothing :P11:02
hsystem-xany new program?11:02
hsystem-xpackage?11:02
streppelthose freezes were there from my beginning using linux on this system11:02
streppeleven livecds freeze somehow11:02
hsystem-xin other operating systems, does it do the same?11:02
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hsystem-xor only with linux11:02
streppelin winblows i didn't have this problem11:03
streppelgimme a sec,installing new nvidia driver11:03
aguitelhow i can add beryl to start when i restarted the system?11:03
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hsystem-xyou can do a script, .sh with the commands11:03
hsystem-xand add them to the startup11:03
hsystem-xon kde or just, do a session11:03
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hsystem-xwith beryl11:03
m477anyone can tell me what is wrong ? "11:04
m477Please check if specified sound device11:04
m477and sample file are accessible.11:04
aguitelhow i do a session?11:04
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Streppelmhh11:07
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Streppelso i updated the driver and i'll have to wait until there was another freeze or if it is fixed11:07
hsystem-xok aguitel11:07
hsystem-xare you therE?11:07
Streppel*plays around with compiz*11:07
aguitelyes11:08
hsystem-xok look at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-399645.html11:08
hsystem-xand jump to the 4 step11:08
hsystem-xit says11:08
aguitelthanks11:08
hsystem-x* 4. Setup automatic start with sessions of Beryl11:08
hsystem-xfrom there, read, :)11:08
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wesleyi didt know png is better than jpg11:09
hsystem-xyes, and it is also more bigger11:10
hsystem-xthe size.11:10
m477wtf ?11:10
m477help plz11:10
m477[23:04]  <m477> anyone can tell me what is wrong ? "11:10
m477[23:04]  <m477> Please check if specified sound device11:10
m477[23:04]  <m477> and sample file are accessible.11:10
wesleybigger i did make the same screenshot the jpg was bigger in size than the png11:11
hsystem-xweird.11:11
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hsystem-xbut ok11:11
hsystem-xsince png have more graphics.11:11
wesleyi dont know the different11:11
hsystem-xyes, png have more light.11:12
teranderCan anyone point in the direction of a converter to html for Konversation-logs? :)11:12
teranderpoint *me* :)11:12
hsystem-xmore bright.11:12
teranderlol11:12
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waylandbill_jpg is lossy compression. png is lossless compression11:13
ardchoilleterander: apt-cache search txt2html11:13
hsystem-xwhen you convert from png to jpeg, the images tend to lose quality11:13
wesleyKdenlive is on the right waty is it11:13
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teranderardchoille: thanks, I'll have a look at it :)11:14
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wesleyWith Kdenlive there's finaly a good alternatief 2 movie maker11:15
teranderardchoille: though I was thinking of something like this: http://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/ :-)11:15
ardchoilleterander: It's in universe11:15
teranderardchoille: but it doesn't support konversation logs...11:16
teranderardchoille: yes, I've installed it - will look at it now :)11:16
ardchoilleterander: aren't konversation logs just a text file?11:16
SeanTaterhsystem-x, wesley: They have different purposes. Jpeg is made for images with many colors, like photographs, while png was made for lossless graphics like you'll find on the web.11:16
wesleyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Woz6Q5ofc Look guys a amv i did make in Kdenlive11:17
teranderardchoille: yes, but if you look at the examples from the link I gave, the colorization parses the files, and it needs to understand them11:17
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ardchoilleterander: Ah, yes, ok.11:17
teranderardchoille: :-)11:17
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hsystem-xyou are dbz fanatic right?11:18
ardchoilleterander: MAybe you should compile irclog2html11:18
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teranderardchoille: I'm using the latest SVN version - it's Python based, so I don't think I need to compile it... It's just that it doesn't work with logs from Konversation :-)11:19
rustalothow do you rename the computer from the command lin e11:20
ardchoilleterander: Ah11:20
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teranderardchoille: :-)11:21
wesleywhat do you think of Kdenlive?11:21
frodakhello11:21
Biovorekinda of a neat program.. Been using avidemux.. but kdenlive is kinda cool..11:22
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wesleyi use avidemux for creating the clips to use in Kdenlive because the cut funtion is 100% okay11:24
frodakIs there a way to disable a wireless network card?   It is not properly installed or detected I just want to turn it off for now.11:24
sydwhat can i use to format my pendrive?11:24
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jhutchinsfrodak: not really, you can disable the drivers by blacklisting them so they won't load, but it's still there, it's going to do some level of power consumption.11:25
ardchoillesyd: qtparted, gparted, parted, etc11:25
sydi'll try, tahnks11:25
frodakThats good enough, how do you blacklist?11:25
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wesleyI am realy glad with Kdenlive so got the spirit to create some amvs11:26
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ardchoille!blacklist11:29
ubotuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 11:29
gary_hi, does the FX 5200 correspond to an nvidia-glx-new driver from the repos?11:29
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gary_i'm lookin at nvidia's list and it's under 97xx driver11:30
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ScorpKingrustalot: do you want to change your hostname?11:30
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gary_if i install the nvidia-glx-new driver, where do i get its kernel?11:31
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ardchoille!nvidia gary_ | Here's the tutorial11:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidia gary_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:31
gary_thx11:32
ardchoille!nvidia | gary_11:32
ubotugary_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:32
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xl1Install from sep21 dvd 7.10 crashes11:32
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rustalotScorpKing: yeah, nvm I figured it out..11:33
ScorpKingok11:33
xl1is that a know issue? Log says something about package list11:33
ardchoillexl1: 7.10 is beta, it's going to have problems. You should ask in #ubuntu+111:33
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xl1OK, thanks11:33
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ubuntuHi everybody11:34
gary_hello11:34
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Kilowatiohi11:34
Kilowatiowho is here ?11:34
abominiusnobody11:35
Kilowatiohaha11:35
Kilowatioi see11:35
ScorpKingonly you11:35
Kilowatiowhere are you from ?11:35
ScorpKingfar far away :)11:35
Kilowatiowhere ?11:35
abominiusme more far11:35
ardchoille!ot11:35
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:35
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Kilowatiook ok11:36
KilowatioArgentina ?11:36
abominiusKilowatio: this is not a general chat11:37
Kilowatiookkkk11:37
Kilowatiobye11:37
ScorpKingKilowatio: type /join kubuntu-offtopic11:37
Kilowatioyes i know11:38
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Kilowatiohow i can close this room ?11:38
gnomefreakKilowatio: /wc11:38
gnomefreakKilowatio: /quit11:38
teranderardchoille: the txt2html might work with some work, but I think I'll try to hack the python code in irclog2html instead.... Thanks for the help anyway :-)11:39
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ubuntummmm11:39
ubuntuthis room!!!!!!!!! no the server11:39
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ardchoilleterander: :)11:40
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ScorpKingardchoille: ok to /pm ?11:40
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teranderKilowatio: what do you mean? do you want to close this room or the connection to this server, or how to close this application?11:40
abominiuslol11:41
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feierfoxhi11:51
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jjesseok something happened in an upgrade and i don't get past the grub boot11:54
jjesseany help or thoughts?11:54
garfieldhow do i get to window channel?11:54
ScorpKingwhat is the error you get?11:54
gnomefreakgarfield: /j ##windows11:55
garfieldok11:55
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jjessehold, i see "starting up" and then "kernel panic - not syncing: vfs unable to mout root fs on inkonw-block"11:55
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jjesseits a virtual machine of gutsy, when i click into that vm, my numlock and scroll lights flash11:56
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jjesseis there a way to reapir grub11:58
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ScorpKingjjesse: i think it's a problem with the UUID in /etc/fstab. just checking12:00
jjesseScorpKing: ok, is there a quick grub repair that could take of that ?12:00
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jjesseits my kde4 box and i'd hate to have rebuild/recompile12:01
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ScorpKingjjesse: not sure. can't get to google. change /ect/fstab to use /etc/hd* instead of the UUID's. maybe that helps. not sure.12:02
jjesseScorpKing: ok thanks12:02
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ardchoilleScorpKing: PM? Sure.12:03
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oem#ubuntu-hr12:04
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Kachnahow was that channel for compiz and stuff pls? :-)12:14
fkmKachna,  #compiz-fusion ?12:15
Kachnaoh here we go xD thx12:15
fkmYou're welcome :)12:15
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mlehello all, newbie question, how do i change the screen resolution on my thinkpad lenovo T60, running Kubuntu on Feisty fawn12:20
mleright now it's at 1024x768, but i'd like it to be higher, but there isn't a higher option in the Settings applet12:21
jhutchinsmle: Well, traditionally Ctrl-Alt-kp+/kp- step through available resolutions; you might find krandrtray useful.12:21
ardchoille!fixres | mle12:21
ubotumle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:21
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jhutchinsmle: You may be able to find a propietary driver for your video chipset that will allow it to go higher.12:21
garfieldtaking music from linux to put on xp is a big no no i just lost more then 1000songs :(12:22
mleyes i have the proprietary ati driver installed, fglrx12:22
jhutchinsgarfield: Restore your backup.12:22
garfieldto late12:22
garfieldi allready reinstall linux12:22
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ardchoillegarfield: The proper way to do that is to burn them to DVD (or cp to ext hd) first so you'll have a backup12:24
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imachinehey12:25
imachineI installed kubuntu, but I want ubuntu, how can I remove kubuntu and get ubuntu on the machine ?12:25
zobi8225exit12:25
zobi8225sorry12:25
garfieldardchoille: my burner gone to bits in the plane i forgot to put srews in it12:25
imachineI want to remove all kde applications. but, apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop doesn't do anything, it just removes the meta-package.12:25
imachinealso, how's the restricted manager, language support, etc ubuntu appps coming into kubuntu? it seems crippled that way ;(12:26
hydrogenrestricted-manager-kde is in gutsy12:28
oemi have got just imstall ubuntu12:28
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imachinegutsy ?12:28
imachineI have 7.0412:28
oemamyone kmows goood pakage12:28
ardchoille!ubuntu+112:28
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+112:28
imachineok12:29
oemmy 6.0612:29
ardchoilleoem: Package for what?12:29
Tm_Toem: good what?12:29
oemworking of the sistem12:29
ardchoilleoem: You're going to have to be a little more specific12:29
oemamarok does not work12:30
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oemi can not lisen to the music12:30
Tm_Toem: you mean mp3 or what?12:30
oemjea12:30
oemmp312:30
garfieldmy icons on my desktop are invisible how do i make them reapair?12:31
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ubotuoem: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:31
Tm_T!mp3 | oem12:31
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Tm_Tjhutchins: slow12:31
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jhutchinsheh.12:31
imachinehydrogen, what else is in gutsy thats missing in feisty ?12:31
imachinekubuntu-wise12:31
jhutchinsimachine: ?12:31
jhutchinsimachine: It's just the next release, not something new.12:31
ardchoillegarfield: kcontrol > Desktop > Behavior > Show icons on desktop12:31
imachineyes12:31
imachinewondering what it brings in12:32
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imachinesince you said it brings in the kde-restricted-manager for example.12:32
hydrogenapport (a crash handler)12:32
jhutchinsimachine: Well, it's offtopic here, but you could read the changlog notes on the wiki - i'm sure someone in +1 could point you to them.12:32
imachinewhat else, do you know? importantt things. I don't care about graphical rubbish.12:32
garfieldoem: just install " libxine-extracodecs"12:32
hydrogenand just general improvements12:32
hydrogenstrigi stuff12:32
imachineokay12:32
imachinecool12:32
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imachinepity I didn't know about it.12:32
seanjwhat is the graphical sudo for KDE?12:33
imachinewell I'll just stick to Ubuntu for now12:33
imachinethanks!12:33
imachineksudo12:33
imachineor kdesu12:33
seanjthanks!12:33
garfieldardchoille: it's was allready selected12:33
imachinebtw, do you guys know if apt-get has an option to remove all packages dependant on a package?12:34
ardchoillegarfield: Have you specified which icons you want to see on the desktop (other tabs)?12:34
imachinelike, apt-get remove -f kubuntu-desktop12:34
imachineyou know what I mean ?12:34
ardchoilleimachine: apt-get remove --auto-remove  < -- removes the package and its deps12:34
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imachineno, not the deps of the package.12:34
ScorpKingi have not received any news in akregator in the past 3 days. is that normal?12:34
imachinebut the packages that depend on it12:34
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garfieldardchoille: no.dont worry i overwrite them and alot of them just show they self again12:35
ardchoilleimachine: Well, it you remove a dep, then all packages dependent on that dep should be reoved also12:35
ardchoille*removed12:35
imachinewell.12:35
imachinethe package kubuntu-dsktop is a meta package.12:35
imachineso it just pulls in other packages by dep12:36
imachineif I can get it's deps, and remove those...12:36
ardchoilleimachine: But, if you remove kde before installing another wm or desktop, you might end up screwing the system12:36
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imachinethen I'll be the closest to removing kubuntu-desktop12:36
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imachinehey I'm okay with working in console12:36
imachineI'm not a newbie12:36
imachine:)12:36
LjLimachine: sudo apt-get autoremove12:36
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imachineautoremove ?12:36
LjLcareful though, LOOK at what it tells you it'll remove12:36
LjLyes, as in auto and remove12:36
imachineso if I do sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop12:37
ardchoilleimachine: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --auto-remove  ?12:37
imachineokay will take a alook12:37
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imachinecheers12:37
LjLimachine: no, it doesn't work like that. well you can type it, but it'll be the same as running sudo apt-get autoremove alone (except it'll also remove kubuntu-desktop)12:37
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imachineoic12:37
LjLardchoille: is that new? i only knew of "autoremove" as a command12:38
imachineso ardchoille's version is better for me12:38
LjLnot as an option12:38

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