[12:38] Luke: no i have to look at all that is NetworkManager related === davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-47-39-199.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:39] i really think it's a Purdue problem not NM but we need an expert to help us fix the prblem [12:40] Luke: Usually its good to start with the line where network manager starts when providing a syslog [12:40] kk [12:40] you mean /var/log/syslog right? [12:40] yes === KristianL [n=kristian@unaffiliated/kristianl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Creteil [n=bigbob@dyn-88-122-154-95.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] hi all [12:53] I'm currently running testing (gutsy) and playing with suspend (ram & disk) & resume ... [12:54] I hava acheived to suspend to ram properly, and also resuming from this step ... [12:55] This only thing blocking when the laptop resumed is the sound can't be used under gnome since the loopback interface was not up after resume. [12:55] Hm. cryptopts=source=/dev/sda5 fixed the initramfs part, but I get another (useless) prompt later before fsck/ [12:56] so, a simple sudo /etc/init.d/loopback stop & /etc/init.d/loopback start fix the problem === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-183.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] I just want to know if you know where i can put theses commands at resume step ? [01:01] dear archive gods. please accept linux-source-2.6.22 for hppa. thanks muchly [01:02] Creteil: /etc/acpi/resume.d should be executed on resume... [01:03] jdong : thanks, I'm gonna check that now ... === pochu [n=emilio@84.121.1.235.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@adsl-67-116-242-254.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB_ [n=tomb@host86-145-195-250.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.82.45.179] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomB_ [n=tomb@host86-145-195-250.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.227.117] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ruttino [n=ruttino@91.106.223.252] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=dizzle@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D9C1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack_ [n=j_ack@p508D924B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.109.97] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D888E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] cjwatson: Thanks (for pushing wine). === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:02] ScottK: Thanks for getting it working nicely on 64-bit :) === ruttino [n=ruttino@91.106.223.252] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rendero [n=rendero@unaffiliated/rendero] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:35] IntuitiveNipple: I just uploaded it. Scott Ritchie and \sh did the work. 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(this is the command line i use in the terminal to load the script "nohup ./new_sockets.pl &") ? [11:25] Chris40, if nobody in #ubuntu can help you might try asking at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu [11:25] Chris40: use the gnome sessions [11:25] Chris40: menu System -> Preferences -> Sessions [11:25] Chris40: next time try mpt suggestion [11:26] does gnome sessions load the script in sudo access ? [11:26] no [11:26] so how can i load the script in sudo access on the startup (booting) ? [11:27] put it in /etc/rc.local === punisher_ [n=palasti@host-177-115.opticon.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === d33p__ [n=d33p@10.145.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD75B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:32] hi === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] slangasek: right, it should be [11:38] slangasek: I've unmilestoned that bug, I'm not sure how it ended up milestoned === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] I think it's just if you need to eject early on [11:39] oh, might be different for netboot === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bigon [n=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-28.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mm23 [n=mm23@bzq-219-125-200.static.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holycow [n=start@S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora41 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-6dbc66c36738b53f] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mario [n=mario@83-131-74-231.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee_ [n=Shiyee@0x50a16837.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.73] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@91.64.103.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=Cesare@79.12.228.244] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@64.195-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-145-49.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:26] Theora has beta1 release, if someone is interested. Performance has improved quite a lot, among else. Testable in debian unstable. === phanatic [n=phanatic@160.114.21.241] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamiemcc [n=jamie@82-32-8-26.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === giskard [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] pitti: Hi, I've got a fix for the ekiga crash we currently have (when trying to make a call or receiving one), it's more or less rebuilding both libopal and ekiga (just a small patch on ekiga's configure to build against the new libpt we have). Don't know if you want that in before beta. [02:03] stgraber: please get it both uploaded (with proper strict build-depends), I'll have a look [02:03] stgraber: thanks for fixing it! === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _nand_ [n=ec4@138.202-128-194.unknown.qala.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:16] pitti: any core dev I can ping today (both opal and ekiga are main) or shall I wait tomorrow when everyone is back to work ? === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] !packaging guide [02:35] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-28.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:45] stgraber: there are some community core-devs, so you may be lucky and find one who is around and willing to sponsor you === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-97-210.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:45] LaserJock: feel like checking my debdiffs+upload ? === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@123.115.246.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:17] ogra: ping === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dsas [n=dean@ubuntu/member/dsas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cypher1 [n=cypher1@pool-71-187-249-82.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] if anybody wants to get the "genie"-effect back for the minimize-animation of compiz' animation-plugin, apply http://people.ubuntu.com/~mmueller/03_minimize_vacuum.patch to the source-package of compiz-fusion-plugins-main [03:50] ...or just edit your personal compiz settings. ;-) [03:50] ion_, no that does not work [03:51] ion_, only with this patch one is able to change the minimize-animation to "Vacuum", which is the genie-effect actually [03:51] Ok [03:52] I really don't know why the compiz folks didn't leave it in [03:53] it does not have to be the default and sw-patents... I have to look up that term in a dictionary :) [03:55] MacSlow: that patch appears to make it the default, because the default is expressed as a number and you added it before Zoom, the previous default ... === jpon [n=jpon@81.56.167.240] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:55] if the preferences are numeric, doesn't that mean that new items should always be added at the end? === lambda [n=lambda@smtp.so-sweet.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:57] hi [03:57] I am packaging a php/mysql server application [03:57] cjwatson, no the order seems to be important... for some reason the animation-types of this compiz-fusion want to be ordered in alphabetical order [03:57] ugh [03:58] it should store defaults and such as strings then :) [03:58] I put the sources there http://213.251.181.65//topic [03:58] cjwatson, well yes... my patch makes vacuum/genie for the minimize animation the default... just a convenience for myself, since it's probably not going to be added to ubuntu or even move upstream [03:59] cjwatson: What would be the most sensible way of handling a situation where we want to build binary packages targetted at multiverse from a source that's in main? [03:59] (I fully expect the answer to be "don't") [04:01] mjg59: that is indeed the answer - it's technically possible in our archive (unlike in Debian) but disallowed by policy === lambda [n=lambda@smtp.so-sweet.org] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:02] cjwatson: ffmpeg has various bits of functionality that would be helpful, but would need to be targetted at multiverse (and require additional build-depends, also not in main) [04:03] I guess the obvious answer is a separate multiverse source package? === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D9917.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:16] mjg59: yeah === CarlF1 [n=carl@c-67-169-179-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@123.115.246.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fir3 [n=fir3@p57B55F4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D9917.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96A9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:13] Hi BenC [05:13] benc: Did you notice my message from yesterday? === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96A9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:13] ion_: no [05:14] benc: In the newest l-r-m package, nvidia_supported still doesnt contain my fix, and a line has been added to it that makes it output incorrect lines. [05:14] benc: http://heh.fi/tmp/nvidia_supported should work. === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:16] ion_: ok, thanks [05:19] ion_: fix uploaded [05:19] Thanks === svolpe [n=Gerrath@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@19-122.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === illovae_ [n=illovae@lns-bzn-45-82-65-135-65.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@160.114.21.241] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dpm [n=dpm@p54A13579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@201.82.45.179] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ant30 [n=ant30@85.136.38.154.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svolpe [n=Gerrath@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Traxer [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:56] Now apt-mark-sync contains ams-run: ams-run aptitude install foobar is equivalent to aptitude install foobar && apt-mark-sync aptitude all, ams-run debfoster is equivalent to debfoster && apt-mark-sync debfoster all etc. === j_ack [n=j_ack@p508D9917.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@26.194-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-26-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-105-82.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] BenC: did you happen to drop the gcc-3.4 build-dep and usage in debian/rules, or should I chase your lrm upload? [06:12] lamont: doh, I forgot, sorry [06:12] yeah, follow up on that I guess [06:13] BenC: OK [06:13] benc: Is there a VCS branch for l-r-m yet? === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] A public one, that is. :-) [06:15] ion_: we had one, and removed it because it was too much of a pain [06:15] Oh. :-( [06:21] ion_: the VCS for lrm is located at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 :-) [06:23] BenC: uploaded [06:23] lamont: thanks [06:24] lamont: I cant have my own branch at archive.ubuntu.com. :-P [06:24] thank you - I was stalling on uploading last night, thinking about beta freeze.. [06:24] ion_: ppa, dude. === norsetto [n=Cesare@host244-228-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x50a16837.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:27] ion_: 99% of the uploads are just abi bumps. -> pain === lamont wonders why ports doesn't seem to be seeing any of the hppa builds that have finished in the last day or so === Lamego [n=lamego@81.84.194.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont thanks the stealth-archive-manager [06:36] hello [06:36] hello [06:36] is anyone familiar with apt dynamic mirrors selection (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DynamicMirrorDecisions ) ? [06:38] :( [06:38] Whats so sad about dynamic mirrors selection? [06:39] it is sad that I am unable to get proper information about it :P === johanbr_ [n=j@blk-137-105-82.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === statik_ [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:48] this is a new bug, right? or is this somehow by design that i'm missing.. this is a daily cd from a couple days ago, i dont see anything on launchpad about it http://xtknight.atothosting.com/images/ubiq-122pc.png === Jucato_ [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@58.69.27.248] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kabyl [n=XSource@41.201.238.237] has joined #ubuntu-devel === svolpe [n=Gerrath@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.176.208] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@p4FD2F126.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@136-137.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === IntuitiveNipple [n=TJ@alexandros.tjworld.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.209.179] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mlankhorst [n=mlankhor@wirelessrouter.ath.cx] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:28] hmm.. it's really a bad idea to enable Xgl with fglrx, the xgl server dies about once every 5 minutes here, plus all the slowing down things + redraw bugs if compiz isn't used :-/ [07:29] fglrx+xgl works fine here, but I havea pretty modern r500. [07:29] as do I.. [07:31] it's really a better idea to delay it slightly and hope ati will release 8.42 soon [07:31] I disagree [07:31] arg [07:31] i wish mvo was around [07:32] we can worry about 8.42 when it comes out [07:32] for all we know it could be equally unstable [07:32] We don't enable Xgl automatically when you install fglrx [07:32] Xgl is in universe and must be installed manually [07:32] it does in gutsy [07:32] No, you installed it [07:32] no, you must install xserver-xgl [07:32] If you install it it will start automatically [07:32] if you just install fgrlx, Xgl does not activate [07:33] ah ok, must be from my previous attempt at xgl, then [07:33] Right, Xgl has been modified in gutsy to make itself start automatically in gutsy [07:33] Is there something strange going on with the hppa buildds? I see packages there waiting for >18hrs... :S [07:33] So you just install and go [07:33] Martinp23: is openoffice.org trying to build? :) [07:33] lol [07:34] lol - there doesn't seem to be anything currently building [07:34] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/hppa/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building [07:34] Martinp23: that says gobby started a minute ago [07:35] Martinp23: hppa started building packages some days/weeks ago === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:35] again [07:35] aha I see [07:35] so no need to worry about hppa builds at the moment [07:36] thanks for the explanation :) === `23meg_ [n=m@88.235.101.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.209.179] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pochu [n=emilio@84.121.1.235.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Le-Chuck_IT1 [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:52] Hi there, somebody knows what packages are implementing the specification https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootLoginWithFullFilesystem [07:53] it happened and I need to debug it a little === mdz [n=mdz@adsl-75-24-93-47.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [n=j@blk-137-105-82.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:56] hm, another crash, seems xgl doesn' t like konversation :-/ === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] xtknight: please file that one as a bug === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Le-Chuck_IT1 [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving."] [08:13] cjwatson: when you get a sec, could you cast your eye over https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/143958/comments/5 [08:13] Launchpad bug 143958 in debian-installer "Gutsy Alternate fails: cannot detect and mount CD-ROM" [Undecided,New] === nemik [n=cyanact@c-67-173-76-34.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@19-122.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:20] IntuitiveNipple: I saw it in #ubuntu-installer backlog, thanks; it's already on my list for first thing Monday [08:25] cjwatson, done, Bug 144278 [08:25] Launchpad bug 144278 in ubiquity "ubiquity reports progress of over 100 percent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144278 [08:25] thanks [08:25] no problem [08:25] cjwatson: ok... I was mostly interested in whether the patch is appropriate... I had to dive into the d-i code at short notice :) === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:27] IntuitiveNipple: list-devices is the right place to start, but I don't like this business of checking the device name [08:28] IntuitiveNipple: the odd thing is that it doesn't get ID_CDROM === statik_ [n=emurphy@canonical/launchpad/statik] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:28] IntuitiveNipple: and contrary to your report, ID_CDROM doesn't contradict DEVTYPE=disk - my internal CD here has both [08:29] cjwatson: ahhh ok, I was wondering about that. The key seems to be that for those external IEEE1394 devices they appear as disks [08:30] IntuitiveNipple: apparently the CDROM_GET_CAPABILITY ioctl fails for them [08:30] which in my book makes them kind of not CD drives ;-) [08:30] but I'll look into it [08:31] it may be that your hack is the right answer for now [08:31] Maybe there is a deeper issue then - would explain why I had the same issue on a PowerEdge server with a SCSI CD-ROM [08:32] I'm going to try the same solution on that server tomorrow - it's in the garage so I don't fancy standing out in the cold right now :) [08:32] IntuitiveNipple: could you put the full udevinfo for that device in the bug? you included an incomplete snippet [08:33] Hmmm... let me check; I've got it on remote ssh atm, since there's big issues with the video-driver too [08:34] IntuitiveNipple: oh, and also the output of 'sudo /lib/udev/cdrom_id /dev/scd0' [08:34] with any luck that will display an error [08:35] $ dpkg -c /mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev-udeb_113-0ubuntu9_i386.udeb | grep cdrom [08:35] $ [08:35] I blame udev [08:35] oho [08:35] ok... does it help to have a CD in the drive? I'm seeing nothing atm [08:35] again [08:36] oh.. the sr0 device isn't listed now the system is booted :( [08:36] IntuitiveNipple: I'd still be interested to see what the ID_TYPE is, if you can figure out a way to get udevinfo [08:36] IntuitiveNipple: but I think I know where the bug is here anyway [08:37] I'm chasing it :) [08:41] IntuitiveNipple: will fix now though it won't help until d-i is rebuilt (which should happen tomorrow or so) [08:42] You'll love this! I got the udevinfo after reconnecting and restarting the PC, and it reports ID_CDROM=1 now! [08:42] So, is this something limited to the installer environment? === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:43] IntuitiveNipple: yes [08:44] IntuitiveNipple: does it have ID_TYPE=cd [08:44] ? [08:44] or what's the ID_TYPE, otherwise [08:44] hold tight - just adding it to the bug report for you === stdin [i=stdin@pdpc/supporter/active/stdin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] IntuitiveNipple: ok, waiting === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.107.4] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] shouldn't mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] , in case it can't resolve, delegate resolving to dns? [08:49] sorry about that; my WAP/router decided to reboot itself with factory default settings! [08:49] bug report updated === fabbione [n=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:50] right, no ID_TYPE indeed [08:51] IntuitiveNipple: the problem was just that the CD identification tool wasn't in the installer environment [08:51] IntuitiveNipple: fix uploaded [08:51] aha! [08:51] thanks for the help, that probably affected a lot of SCSI CDs [08:51] Nice one Colin; thank-you! I've suffered hours of stress trying to sort that one :) === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-68-188.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] now all we need is the unionfs bug fix and I *might* be able to get Gutsy to install from LiveCD :) === luisbg [n=d33p@ubuntu/member/luisbg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] IntuitiveNipple: pkl has more locking fixes for that I think, so I'll suggest that he upload the most conservative possible set on Monday [08:52] fortunately that's just linux-ubuntu-modules which is a relatively quick build [08:53] Yes; the latest he uploaded seemed to help but there's also a blank-video issue that doesn't help! [08:53] I get that occasionally too, I'm not sure what's going on [08:53] as in nothing on the vts? [08:53] Could really do with ssh server installed and started *real* early for these alpha releases :) [08:54] pkgsel/include=openssh-server [08:54] nope, nothing... thats with the Vaio SRX51 & SRX41 (i810) and the Acer Travelmate C104TCi (silicon motion) [08:54] openssh-server starts at rc2.d/S16 nowadays [08:55] is it on the LiveCDs then? [08:55] no [08:55] that I can't easily help you wish [08:55] with [08:55] you might find that disabling usplash is enouygh [08:55] enough [08:55] F6 to edit the kernel command line, and delete "splash" [08:55] unfortunately, so far, it hasn't helped. [08:55] hmm [08:55] I blame the kernel :) [08:56] (un-usefully) [08:56] I've been trying tribe and daily builds on the Vaio's since tribe-3 and so far not had much luck, but until unionfs is finally solved it might be the affects of that [08:56] Feisty installed and runs perfectly on them [08:57] It's kinds of weird, because this Vaio VGN-FE41Z wouldn't play nicely with Feisty but with Gutsy it's perfect. With the SRX's it's the other way around === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [n=kent@80.251.192.5] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] IntuitiveNipple: getting the alternate CD working will let you rule out unionfs === dendrobates [n=dendroba@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] cjwatson: Well, with my work-around I can at least get that installed now... I suppose I should start testing the SRX's but why spoil a successful Sunday night!? [09:10] I'll leave the stress for tomorrow :p === uukchuen [n=uukchuen@201.65.170.255] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === holymoo [n=start@S01060016b6b53675.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] Amaranth: 2000 or later ATI? === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:26] Amaranth: fglrx has the necessary support now? === shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x50a16837.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:27] fglrx 8.41 supports the HD2000 series.... [09:27] but however it doesn't work well with pervious generations :) [09:27] 8.42 is supposed to support all generations equally again. [09:27] AMD also tags 8.41 as beta-quality too [09:28] jdong: what was it before? :-) [09:28] jdong: With indirect acceleration? [09:28] mjg59: no, no indirect until 8.42 :) [09:28] Right. Hence my question. === Nafallo would guess alpha ;-) [09:28] Nafallo: lol at least before it worked to some degree on all cards :) [09:29] Nafallo: 8.41 can't play fullscreen video smoothly on my x1400 [09:29] however, performance on the HD2000's is spectacular [09:29] jdong: I try to stick with Intel ;-) [09:29] Nafallo: agreed :) until we see how these new-fangled radeonhd drivers work out [09:30] naah, will still stick with intel ;-) === kent [n=kent@80.251.192.4] has joined #ubuntu-devel === uukchuen [n=uukchuen@201.65.170.255] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] somebody else and me translated the rhythmbox documentation into german. can we still get it into gutsy? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:58] Kopfgeldjaeger: I guess so, try asking during the week when everybody is here [09:58] geser: ok, thats nice [09:59] Isn't there an IRC channel just for translation stuff? === ScottK thinks so, but isn't sure. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] ScottK: #ubuntu-doc perhaps? === jander99 [n=jeff@c-71-204-22-0.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] mjg59: No but it's whitelisted [10:02] mjg59: and i was talking later r200 and r300 [10:02] Amaranth: Uhm. Why did you mention 2000, then? [10:02] mjg59: nvidia [10:02] mjg59: and the ati ones that work with the open source stuff [10:02] Oh, you mean the year 2000 [10:02] Right [10:02] is hwdb.ubuntu.com or hardware collection in general broken? [10:02] Not the 2000 serise [10:02] right [10:03] That's somewhat confusing :) [10:03] hehe [10:03] Though I think the r200 only appeared in 2002 or so [10:04] oh? [10:04] i know nvidia from around 2000 works [10:05] well, except for the out-of-memory stuff === rohan [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/rohan] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:08] i just checked that with the latest live cd, my screen resolution is NOT correctly detected anymore - 1280x800 on intel gma 950. is this bug already known and filed anywhere ? if not, what package do i file it against ? [10:08] rohan: I can confirm [10:08] my 1280x800 macbook panel is detected in 1024x768 [10:08] and the displayconfig-gtk util was capable of correcting the resolution [10:11] rohan: xresprobe === jander99 [n=jeff@c-71-204-22-0.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === roha1 [n=ubuntu@59.182.164.169] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:23] jdong: i got disconnected [10:23] what did you type ? === roha1 is now known as rohan [10:24] jdong: i mean, relating to that resolution bug [10:24] I said my 1280x800 macbook has the same autodetect problem [10:24] The bug should be filed against xresprobe === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jweyrich [n=phoenix@144022.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@174.81.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@p4FD2F921.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === roha1 [n=ubuntu@59.182.167.210] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] poppy's down - I called elmo, he's on it [10:53] er poppy == upload.ubuntu.com [10:54] the fqdn made so much more sense :-) === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] back up now [10:55] elmo: thanks === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] siretart: ^^^ === mbiebl [n=michael@p4FD2F921.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [n=mdz@adsl-71-138-142-194.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] geser: thanks! 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