/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/09/23/#ubuntu-java.txt

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xhakerman-di, Hello06:11
man-dihello06:11
xhakerstraight to the point, i can't handle packaging eclipse-3.3 by myself :) it's HARD work!06:11
xhakermy interest was heightened yesterday when i saw the plans from Fedora 806:12
xhakerit's one of their roadmap items06:13
man-diyeah, eclipse is beast06:13
xhakerchecking all those patches06:14
xhakerit's not really straightforward06:14
xhakervil provided me with an orig.tar.gz06:14
xhakerthat was helpful, but still :D06:15
xhakerbut about 3.2.206:15
man-diorig tarball is on my account on people.debian.org, thats the one we will use06:15
xhakerhave you noticed I fixed the build on ppc for06:15
xhakerreal06:15
xhakerhttp://patches.ubuntu.com/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-3ubuntu3.patch06:15
xhakerthe problem is.. scott changelog entry there is a big mistake.. he introduced more debdiff than needed06:16
xhakerlike DISTRIBUTION = 'Ubuntu'06:16
xhakersilly boy06:16
xhakeryou can see what's good and what's not in the patch06:17
man-diwhen you write patches for eclipse please provide them to debian06:17
man-diadn please mail them to me06:17
man-diso I can integrate them into the official packaging06:17
xhakerman-di, will do michael06:18
man-diotherwise debian and ubuntu will diverge06:18
man-diI dont care too much about Ubuntu06:18
man-diso please fix bugs in the origin06:18
xhakeryes i know of that problem, as you can see, my changes were to enable the build on lpia, something that debian isn't building on06:19
man-diand?06:19
man-dithat doesnt mean I dont accept a patch for that06:20
xhakerand I had the chance to check if my ppc fix really would build, and i went for it06:20
xhakeralso, ubuntu buildd daemons finished building on all archs06:20
xhakerwhile debian's are hanging or simply have timeouts set up06:21
xhakerman-di, again sorry for the divert at least on my part.06:23
man-dipatches are most welcome against pkg-java SVN trunk06:24
xhakerman-di, see, it's stuff like that which makes me look a rookie, i didn't know about that06:24
xhakerdoes pkg-java include other projects aswell?06:25
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xhakerman-di, i'll provide the patches as request in the future06:28
xhakerman-di, would you need those on that debdiff regenerated too?06:28
man-disvn diff is enough06:50
man-dipkg-java contains most java packages06:50
man-diits an alioth project06:50
xhakerman-di, read some about it now.. but i'm not able to svn checkout07:05
xhakershould I register in alioth, etc07:05
xhakerfoubd the wiki page07:13
xhakertwo options: 1. ssh server died 2. locked myself out07:18
man-dianonymous checkout schold work too07:33
man-diif you have an account on alioth please ask on #aliot on irc.oftc.net07:33
man-dialioth lately has some problems with nscd07:33
man-dixhaker: sorry, I was a bit short. Son is now in bad. Now I have more time to talk08:03
man-diif you have any questions08:03
xhakerman-di, i'm sending the mail to you now08:04
xhakerthis is so much easier to contribute with an svn repository08:04
xhaker:D08:04
xhakerman-di, done :)08:05
man-diI thought you know already08:05
man-dianyway, now you do08:06
xhakerman-di, yes, though i had to use anonymous, i've registered on alioth08:06
xhakerbut the password is not being accepted 08:06
xhakerit was failing previously with http://08:07
xhakersvn:// works fine08:07
man-diokay08:07
man-dihow much memory has your machine where you build eclipse?08:07
man-dibtw: you dont need to include generate files in the diff, debian/control here08:09
man-difor the future08:09
man-diits okay for now08:09
xhakerman-di, i've built always without natives08:10
man-diwhy is the change to source-tree/plugins/org.eclipse.swt/Eclipse SWT PI/gtk/library/build.sh needed?08:10
xhakeri'm not changing that.. i'm changing the existing dpatch08:10
xhakerbut yeah.. that fixes PPC builds08:10
man-dithis one?08:11
man-diare you sure, in my test the gcj-4.2 thing fixed it08:11
xhakeradding the JAVA_HOME/lib08:11
xhakerin ubuntu the path is not /usr/lib/gcj-4.2 anyway08:12
xhakerso i'm pretty sure08:12
xhakerdrwxr-xr-x   3 root root     4096 2007-09-19 12:00 gcj08:12
xhakerdrwxr-xr-x   2 root root     4096 2007-09-11 12:54 gcj-4.2-8108:12
xhakeroh, and i was not sure about the debian/control change.. some people seem to forget to generate them or pay attention to the control.in08:14
xhakerbut now i know. :)08:14
man-diGCJ is the same in Debian and Ubuntu08:14
man-dihmm, perhaps java-gcj-compat returns the wrong JAVA_HOME...08:15
xhakerno, it's ok08:16
xhakerbut the lib is in a different directory on ppc08:16
man-diit is?08:16
man-diin which lib dir?08:17
xhakerlibawt is not inside  ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH}08:17
xhakerit think it was in /usr/lib/gcj-4.2* and ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH}08:18
xhakeron ppc08:18
man-diokay08:19
man-dithat change doenst hurt08:19
man-dihave you tested eclipse runs on lpia?08:19
man-diwhat does uname -a return on lpia?08:20
man-dior better uname -m08:20
xhakerahh.. i've deleted my lpia chroot08:21
xhakeri'd have to ask benc08:21
xhakerbut it's a i386 or i68608:21
xhakermaybe08:21
xhakerlpia = low power intel architecture08:21
man-dihmm, okay08:22
man-dihmm, I have some uncommited changes here too08:25
xhakerman-di, i have the interesting line from the ppc buildlog08:28
xhaker[exec]  gcc -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/lib -ljawt -shared -s -o libswt-awt-gtk-3236.so swt_awt.o08:28
xhakerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/3.2.2-3ubuntu3/+build/38835508:29
xhakerI'm looking forward to help with eclipse_3.3 packaging :)08:33
man-dithere are first some more issues with eclipse to fix08:58
man-dijsch, ant, tomcat08:58
man-diand we still need jetty update08:58
man-difor eclipse 3.308:58
man-diwhich needs some more stuff08:58
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bjwebbhi11:44
bjwebbanybody there?11:48
man-disure11:56
bjwebbwhat would be the best completely free thing for java applets11:58
bjwebbwould it be iced tea?11:58
man-digcjwebplugin, with whatever runtime you need11:58
man-di(icedtea uses gcjwebplugin too)11:59
bjwebbahh11:59
bjwebbman-di: i have that plugin11:59
bjwebbbut im not finding it awfully great11:59
bjwebbso if i installed icedtea id have that plugin but with icedtea as the backend?11:59
man-diyes11:59
man-diat least people report better results12:00
bjwebbman-di: okay12:00
bjwebbany idea how long its likely to be before sun manages to fully open source theirs?12:00
man-dibjwebb: when their layers coma back from vacation ;-)12:01
bjwebbrite12:01
man-diSUN people seem to be very busy with the work needed to open source everything12:02
bjwebbrite12:03
man-dibed time, good nite12:05
bjwebbnite12:06
bjwebbme too i think12:06
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