=== sss [i=sss@gateway/tor/x-ea741be47ced2722] has joined #ubuntu-java === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-java === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-java === recmax [n=recmax@d90-144-9-7.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-java === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-26-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-java [06:11] man-di, Hello [06:11] hello [06:11] straight to the point, i can't handle packaging eclipse-3.3 by myself :) it's HARD work! [06:12] my interest was heightened yesterday when i saw the plans from Fedora 8 [06:13] it's one of their roadmap items [06:13] yeah, eclipse is beast [06:14] checking all those patches [06:14] it's not really straightforward [06:14] vil provided me with an orig.tar.gz [06:15] that was helpful, but still :D [06:15] but about 3.2.2 [06:15] orig tarball is on my account on people.debian.org, thats the one we will use [06:15] have you noticed I fixed the build on ppc for [06:15] real [06:15] http://patches.ubuntu.com/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-3ubuntu3.patch [06:16] the problem is.. scott changelog entry there is a big mistake.. he introduced more debdiff than needed [06:16] like DISTRIBUTION = 'Ubuntu' [06:16] silly boy [06:17] you can see what's good and what's not in the patch [06:17] when you write patches for eclipse please provide them to debian [06:17] adn please mail them to me [06:17] so I can integrate them into the official packaging [06:18] man-di, will do michael [06:18] otherwise debian and ubuntu will diverge [06:18] I dont care too much about Ubuntu [06:18] so please fix bugs in the origin [06:19] yes i know of that problem, as you can see, my changes were to enable the build on lpia, something that debian isn't building on [06:19] and? [06:20] that doesnt mean I dont accept a patch for that [06:20] and I had the chance to check if my ppc fix really would build, and i went for it [06:20] also, ubuntu buildd daemons finished building on all archs [06:21] while debian's are hanging or simply have timeouts set up [06:23] man-di, again sorry for the divert at least on my part. [06:24] patches are most welcome against pkg-java SVN trunk [06:24] man-di, see, it's stuff like that which makes me look a rookie, i didn't know about that [06:25] does pkg-java include other projects aswell? === xhaker finds man-di's space on people.debian.org after 3 tries [06:28] man-di, i'll provide the patches as request in the future [06:28] man-di, would you need those on that debdiff regenerated too? [06:50] svn diff is enough [06:50] pkg-java contains most java packages [06:50] its an alioth project [07:05] man-di, read some about it now.. but i'm not able to svn checkout [07:05] should I register in alioth, etc [07:13] foubd the wiki page [07:18] two options: 1. ssh server died 2. locked myself out [07:33] anonymous checkout schold work too [07:33] if you have an account on alioth please ask on #aliot on irc.oftc.net [07:33] alioth lately has some problems with nscd [08:03] xhaker: sorry, I was a bit short. Son is now in bad. Now I have more time to talk [08:03] if you have any questions [08:04] man-di, i'm sending the mail to you now [08:04] this is so much easier to contribute with an svn repository [08:04] :D [08:05] man-di, done :) [08:05] I thought you know already [08:06] anyway, now you do [08:06] man-di, yes, though i had to use anonymous, i've registered on alioth [08:06] but the password is not being accepted [08:07] it was failing previously with http:// [08:07] svn:// works fine [08:07] okay [08:07] how much memory has your machine where you build eclipse? [08:09] btw: you dont need to include generate files in the diff, debian/control here [08:09] for the future [08:09] its okay for now [08:10] man-di, i've built always without natives [08:10] why is the change to source-tree/plugins/org.eclipse.swt/Eclipse SWT PI/gtk/library/build.sh needed? [08:10] i'm not changing that.. i'm changing the existing dpatch [08:10] but yeah.. that fixes PPC builds [08:11] this one? [08:11] are you sure, in my test the gcj-4.2 thing fixed it [08:11] adding the JAVA_HOME/lib [08:12] in ubuntu the path is not /usr/lib/gcj-4.2 anyway [08:12] so i'm pretty sure [08:12] drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-09-19 12:00 gcj [08:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-11 12:54 gcj-4.2-81 [08:14] oh, and i was not sure about the debian/control change.. some people seem to forget to generate them or pay attention to the control.in [08:14] but now i know. :) [08:14] GCJ is the same in Debian and Ubuntu [08:15] hmm, perhaps java-gcj-compat returns the wrong JAVA_HOME... [08:16] no, it's ok [08:16] but the lib is in a different directory on ppc [08:16] it is? [08:17] in which lib dir? [08:17] libawt is not inside ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH} [08:18] it think it was in /usr/lib/gcj-4.2* and ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH} [08:18] on ppc [08:19] okay [08:19] that change doenst hurt [08:19] have you tested eclipse runs on lpia? [08:20] what does uname -a return on lpia? [08:20] or better uname -m [08:21] ahh.. i've deleted my lpia chroot [08:21] i'd have to ask benc [08:21] but it's a i386 or i686 [08:21] maybe [08:21] lpia = low power intel architecture [08:22] hmm, okay [08:25] hmm, I have some uncommited changes here too [08:28] man-di, i have the interesting line from the ppc buildlog [08:28] [exec] gcc -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/lib -ljawt -shared -s -o libswt-awt-gtk-3236.so swt_awt.o [08:29] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/3.2.2-3ubuntu3/+build/388355 [08:33] I'm looking forward to help with eclipse_3.3 packaging :) [08:58] there are first some more issues with eclipse to fix [08:58] jsch, ant, tomcat [08:58] and we still need jetty update [08:58] for eclipse 3.3 [08:58] which needs some more stuff === bjwebb [n=bob@tuxhacker/Bjwebb] has joined #ubuntu-java [11:44] hi [11:48] anybody there? [11:56] sure [11:58] what would be the best completely free thing for java applets [11:58] would it be iced tea? [11:58] gcjwebplugin, with whatever runtime you need [11:59] (icedtea uses gcjwebplugin too) [11:59] ahh [11:59] man-di: i have that plugin [11:59] but im not finding it awfully great [11:59] so if i installed icedtea id have that plugin but with icedtea as the backend? [11:59] yes [12:00] at least people report better results [12:00] man-di: okay [12:00] any idea how long its likely to be before sun manages to fully open source theirs? [12:01] bjwebb: when their layers coma back from vacation ;-) [12:01] rite [12:02] SUN people seem to be very busy with the work needed to open source everything [12:03] rite [12:05] bed time, good nite [12:06] nite [12:06] me too i think === bjwebb [n=bob@tuxhacker/Bjwebb] has left #ubuntu-java []