[06:11] <xhaker> man-di, Hello
[06:11] <man-di> hello
[06:11] <xhaker> straight to the point, i can't handle packaging eclipse-3.3 by myself :) it's HARD work!
[06:12] <xhaker> my interest was heightened yesterday when i saw the plans from Fedora 8
[06:13] <xhaker> it's one of their roadmap items
[06:13] <man-di> yeah, eclipse is beast
[06:14] <xhaker> checking all those patches
[06:14] <xhaker> it's not really straightforward
[06:14] <xhaker> vil provided me with an orig.tar.gz
[06:15] <xhaker> that was helpful, but still :D
[06:15] <xhaker> but about 3.2.2
[06:15] <man-di> orig tarball is on my account on people.debian.org, thats the one we will use
[06:15] <xhaker> have you noticed I fixed the build on ppc for
[06:15] <xhaker> real
[06:15] <xhaker> http://patches.ubuntu.com/e/eclipse/eclipse_3.2.2-3ubuntu3.patch
[06:16] <xhaker> the problem is.. scott changelog entry there is a big mistake.. he introduced more debdiff than needed
[06:16] <xhaker> like DISTRIBUTION = 'Ubuntu'
[06:16] <xhaker> silly boy
[06:17] <xhaker> you can see what's good and what's not in the patch
[06:17] <man-di> when you write patches for eclipse please provide them to debian
[06:17] <man-di> adn please mail them to me
[06:17] <man-di> so I can integrate them into the official packaging
[06:18] <xhaker> man-di, will do michael
[06:18] <man-di> otherwise debian and ubuntu will diverge
[06:18] <man-di> I dont care too much about Ubuntu
[06:18] <man-di> so please fix bugs in the origin
[06:19] <xhaker> yes i know of that problem, as you can see, my changes were to enable the build on lpia, something that debian isn't building on
[06:19] <man-di> and?
[06:20] <man-di> that doesnt mean I dont accept a patch for that
[06:20] <xhaker> and I had the chance to check if my ppc fix really would build, and i went for it
[06:20] <xhaker> also, ubuntu buildd daemons finished building on all archs
[06:21] <xhaker> while debian's are hanging or simply have timeouts set up
[06:23] <xhaker> man-di, again sorry for the divert at least on my part.
[06:24] <man-di> patches are most welcome against pkg-java SVN trunk
[06:24] <xhaker> man-di, see, it's stuff like that which makes me look a rookie, i didn't know about that
[06:25] <xhaker> does pkg-java include other projects aswell?
[06:28] <xhaker> man-di, i'll provide the patches as request in the future
[06:28] <xhaker> man-di, would you need those on that debdiff regenerated too?
[06:50] <man-di> svn diff is enough
[06:50] <man-di> pkg-java contains most java packages
[06:50] <man-di> its an alioth project
[07:05] <xhaker> man-di, read some about it now.. but i'm not able to svn checkout
[07:05] <xhaker> should I register in alioth, etc
[07:13] <xhaker> foubd the wiki page
[07:18] <xhaker> two options: 1. ssh server died 2. locked myself out
[07:33] <man-di> anonymous checkout schold work too
[07:33] <man-di> if you have an account on alioth please ask on #aliot on irc.oftc.net
[07:33] <man-di> alioth lately has some problems with nscd
[08:03] <man-di> xhaker: sorry, I was a bit short. Son is now in bad. Now I have more time to talk
[08:03] <man-di> if you have any questions
[08:04] <xhaker> man-di, i'm sending the mail to you now
[08:04] <xhaker> this is so much easier to contribute with an svn repository
[08:04] <xhaker> :D
[08:05] <xhaker> man-di, done :)
[08:05] <man-di> I thought you know already
[08:06] <man-di> anyway, now you do
[08:06] <xhaker> man-di, yes, though i had to use anonymous, i've registered on alioth
[08:06] <xhaker> but the password is not being accepted 
[08:07] <xhaker> it was failing previously with http://
[08:07] <xhaker> svn:// works fine
[08:07] <man-di> okay
[08:07] <man-di> how much memory has your machine where you build eclipse?
[08:09] <man-di> btw: you dont need to include generate files in the diff, debian/control here
[08:09] <man-di> for the future
[08:09] <man-di> its okay for now
[08:10] <xhaker> man-di, i've built always without natives
[08:10] <man-di> why is the change to source-tree/plugins/org.eclipse.swt/Eclipse SWT PI/gtk/library/build.sh needed?
[08:10] <xhaker> i'm not changing that.. i'm changing the existing dpatch
[08:10] <xhaker> but yeah.. that fixes PPC builds
[08:11] <man-di> this one?
[08:11] <man-di> are you sure, in my test the gcj-4.2 thing fixed it
[08:11] <xhaker> adding the JAVA_HOME/lib
[08:12] <xhaker> in ubuntu the path is not /usr/lib/gcj-4.2 anyway
[08:12] <xhaker> so i'm pretty sure
[08:12] <xhaker> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root     4096 2007-09-19 12:00 gcj
[08:12] <xhaker> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root     4096 2007-09-11 12:54 gcj-4.2-81
[08:14] <xhaker> oh, and i was not sure about the debian/control change.. some people seem to forget to generate them or pay attention to the control.in
[08:14] <xhaker> but now i know. :)
[08:14] <man-di> GCJ is the same in Debian and Ubuntu
[08:15] <man-di> hmm, perhaps java-gcj-compat returns the wrong JAVA_HOME...
[08:16] <xhaker> no, it's ok
[08:16] <xhaker> but the lib is in a different directory on ppc
[08:16] <man-di> it is?
[08:17] <man-di> in which lib dir?
[08:17] <xhaker> libawt is not inside  ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH}
[08:18] <xhaker> it think it was in /usr/lib/gcj-4.2* and ${JAVA_HOME}/jre/lib/${AWT_ARCH}
[08:18] <xhaker> on ppc
[08:19] <man-di> okay
[08:19] <man-di> that change doenst hurt
[08:19] <man-di> have you tested eclipse runs on lpia?
[08:20] <man-di> what does uname -a return on lpia?
[08:20] <man-di> or better uname -m
[08:21] <xhaker> ahh.. i've deleted my lpia chroot
[08:21] <xhaker> i'd have to ask benc
[08:21] <xhaker> but it's a i386 or i686
[08:21] <xhaker> maybe
[08:21] <xhaker> lpia = low power intel architecture
[08:22] <man-di> hmm, okay
[08:25] <man-di> hmm, I have some uncommited changes here too
[08:28] <xhaker> man-di, i have the interesting line from the ppc buildlog
[08:28] <xhaker> [exec]  gcc -L/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/lib -ljawt -shared -s -o libswt-awt-gtk-3236.so swt_awt.o
[08:29] <xhaker> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/3.2.2-3ubuntu3/+build/388355
[08:33] <xhaker> I'm looking forward to help with eclipse_3.3 packaging :)
[08:58] <man-di> there are first some more issues with eclipse to fix
[08:58] <man-di> jsch, ant, tomcat
[08:58] <man-di> and we still need jetty update
[08:58] <man-di> for eclipse 3.3
[08:58] <man-di> which needs some more stuff
[11:44] <bjwebb> hi
[11:48] <bjwebb> anybody there?
[11:56] <man-di> sure
[11:58] <bjwebb> what would be the best completely free thing for java applets
[11:58] <bjwebb> would it be iced tea?
[11:58] <man-di> gcjwebplugin, with whatever runtime you need
[11:59] <man-di> (icedtea uses gcjwebplugin too)
[11:59] <bjwebb> ahh
[11:59] <bjwebb> man-di: i have that plugin
[11:59] <bjwebb> but im not finding it awfully great
[11:59] <bjwebb> so if i installed icedtea id have that plugin but with icedtea as the backend?
[11:59] <man-di> yes
[12:00] <man-di> at least people report better results
[12:00] <bjwebb> man-di: okay
[12:00] <bjwebb> any idea how long its likely to be before sun manages to fully open source theirs?
[12:01] <man-di> bjwebb: when their layers coma back from vacation ;-)
[12:01] <bjwebb> rite
[12:02] <man-di> SUN people seem to be very busy with the work needed to open source everything
[12:03] <bjwebb> rite
[12:05] <man-di> bed time, good nite
[12:06] <bjwebb> nite
[12:06] <bjwebb> me too i think