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lamontkylem: thanks, btw.  -12.38 built01:57
lamont(and is blocked by NEW for hppa, but that's OK)01:57
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lamontdoes LRM live in git?04:53
rtglamont: nope.04:53
lamontah, ok04:53
lamontso the archive is the SCM for that?04:53
rtgyes04:54
lamontok04:54
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lamont(hppa)04:54
lamont144MB tarball? wow04:54
lamontcompeting with OO.o, I see04:54
rtgIt full of those binary blobs.04:55
lamontyeah04:55
lamontthey'd be much smaller if we compressed them with AAC, you know. :-D04:55
rtgIt would be my preference as well, but BenC disagreed. 04:55
lamontsomething to do with wanting to be able to uncompress them later, I suppose.04:56
rtgI think LRM should be under git control.04:56
lamontbooring.04:56
BenCwe don't recompress them because we leave them as they came from upstream04:57
lamontBenC: I was being silly and suggesting lossy compression...04:57
BenClamont: if you want lossy, just use "rm -f *" :)04:57
lamontfwiw, at a minimum, I need to change the hppa build-dep on gcc-3.4 to 4.1, and then I'll see what more it needs to compile successfully04:58
rtgI don't care about compression so much. I just think that all of the kernel packages ought to be managed in a standard way.04:58
lamontBenC: it would be nice to drop lrm into git..04:58
lamontlargish, but good.04:58
BenCwe had it in git, but it was a real pita04:58
BenCdidn't help us at all04:58
lamontah, ok.04:58
lamontI can see that with the size and the blobitude04:58
BenCmost of our lrm uploads are just ABI bumps, so git just adds too much overhead04:59
lamontwfm04:59
lamontlum and lbm both built, as did the kernel, so I think lrm is the only part left that hppa is lacking05:00
lamontd-i even built05:00
lamontwell, will have in LP once I finish my current pulse and give it back in LP :-)05:00
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lamontBenC: if we packaged lrm as .orig + .diff.gz, that'd help with uploads at least somewhat...05:10
lamontwhich is what we did/05:11
lamontnever mind... maybe I should go to bed05:11
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lamonthrm... if hppa ever supports any modules that require compiling things, we're going to have to deal with the multiple-compiler issue in debian/rules.05:32
lamontin the meantime, it's ok05:32
lamontBenC: any reason for me to not upload this fix now?05:34
lamontdebian/control* (drop b-d: gcc-3.4) and debian/rules (don't use gcc-3.4)05:35
lamontW: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 source: maintainer-script-lacks-debhelper-token debian/linux-restricted-modules-generic.postinst05:36
lamontneato05:36
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-12.39 | Latest news: -Beta freeze upon us | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com
BenCzul: ping05:25
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zulBenC: you are lucky I just sat down05:43
BenCzul: The xen configs don't appear to be based on our stock generic config...any reason for that?05:44
BenCe.g. CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m instead of our CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y05:45
zulBenC: correct they are based on suse's xen kernels I could go through them today 05:45
BenCzul: I was thinking the best bet would be "cat debian/config/i386/config{,.generic} > .config" and make oldconfig to get the xen options05:46
BenCotherwise we risk different support in each kernel05:46
BenCand the same for amd6405:46
zulsure not a problem ill have to recompile then to make sure they still work though05:46
BenCok, I'd appreciate it05:47
zulnop05:47
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xhakerBenC, mjg59 : could you please look into this upstream bug http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=817106:43
ubotubugzilla.kernel.org bug 8171 in ACPICA-Core "acpi_serialize locks system during boot" [Blocking,Assigned]  06:43
xhakerthere is a patch there now! :)06:43
BenCxhaker: I think we have that patch integrated in the latest kernel upload06:44
BenCmaybe not, I'll check though06:45
BenCxhaker: is there a launchpad bug for this and confirmed it affects 2.6.22?06:45
xhakerBenC, 1 sec06:45
xhakerIt's related to this one06:46
xhakerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/11618506:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116185 in linux-source-2.6.22 "battery state not reported correctly" [High,Confirmed]  06:46
mjg59Yes, that patch looks reasonable06:46
xhakerand this one upstream06:46
xhakerhttp://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=881006:46
ubotubugzilla.kernel.org bug 8810 in ACPICA-Core "Laptop needs acpi_serialize to works - HP Pavillion dv8230us" [Normal,Reopened]  06:47
mjg59xhaker: So, just to clarify - the first patch just stops acpi_serialize from locking the system?06:48
xhakermjg59, yes.06:48
mjg59Right. That should certainly go in.06:49
xhakermjg59, the first bug is about acpi_serialized not working right06:49
xhakermjg59, but the second upstream bug report might be a good read along the end06:49
mjg59xhaker: Yes. It's still lacking a fix.06:50
xhakerupstream is considering marking _BST always serialized06:50
mjg59Yes06:50
xhakermjg59, you seem to have helped with a recent commit too, let me search it06:50
xhaker426ea6c8aadc921e499f490bb457086945b42a0d : Ubuntu: Allocate acpi_devices structure rather than leaving it on the stack.06:51
mjg59That fixes a bug that I introduced myself06:52
xhakermjg59, ohh, i was under the impression it was 8171 related06:52
mjg59No06:52
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nixternaltoshiba satellite l35 w/ gutsy: kernel 2.6.20* works great, 2.6.22* does not work at all. when it gets to the point where it starts X, it just turns the display off and never comes up...any ideas?09:48
mjg59So if you run gutsy with the feisty kernel, it works?09:49
nixternalya09:49
nixternalthank god you answered :)  I am at a LUG right now and this laptop just will not work at all with the 2.6.22 kernels09:49
mjg59Can you try blacklisting the video module and see if that makes any difference?09:49
nixternalI can try that09:49
nixternalso in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, I should add ati since that is what it is loading?09:51
mjg59No09:51
mjg59video09:51
nixternalderr09:51
nixternalno go09:53
mjg59Which graphics drivers are you using?09:53
nixternalati09:53
mjg59RIght09:53
mjg59Try blacklisting radeon, then09:54
nixternalk09:54
nixternalstill not working...this thing is a pain09:56
mjg59Are you able to ssh into the machine?09:57
nixternalit is sitting right next to me, I have physical access to it09:57
mjg59And the console still works after the failure?09:57
nixternalI can restart it in single-user mode09:58
mjg59No, that's not what I asked09:58
nixternalI can't access anything after the failure09:58
nixternalI have to push the power button and hard power down09:58
mjg59Does caps lock still work?09:58
nixternalit is working at the terminal right now yes09:58
mjg59After X has failed?09:59
nixternalafter x has failed, the only thing that seems to work is the power button...you can't tell if the caps lock is working or not as there is no indicator for it09:59
mjg59Ok. So, can you ssh into the machine?10:00
IntuitiveNipplenixternal: When X fails, can you so Ctrl+Alt+SysRq+K ?10:00
nixternalhrmm, I need to install the server and give it a shot10:00
IntuitiveNipples/so/do/10:00
mjg59IntuitiveNipple: Please don't confuse things10:00
nixternalno doubt10:00
nixternal:)10:00
nixternallet me install ssh server really quick10:00
mjg59Thanks10:01
nixternalalrighty, going to let it boot up and crash, then try and ssh into it10:06
nixternalmjg59: I can log in via ssh just fine10:09
mjg59nixternal: When it's frozen?10:10
nixternalyup10:11
nixternalso obviously it isn't frozen, just no video10:11
mjg59Ok. Can you grab /var/log/Xorg.0.log and put it somewhere?10:11
nixternalyup10:11
mjg59Right, let me know when you've done that10:11
nixternalhttp://www.nixternal.com/tmp/Xorg.0.log10:12
mjg59Ok, the radeon driver is still getting loaded10:13
mjg59Try just deleting /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko10:13
nixternalthat is my fault, I remove the blacklist before I rebooted10:16
mjg59No, I suspect the server is triggering the load itself10:16
nixternalhey, refresh that log, I just uploaded an updated, while I wait to get root access tot he laptop to delete the module10:19
nixternalone sec10:19
mjg59It's the same10:19
nixternalOK, moved that file out of there, give it a reboot?10:20
mjg59Yes10:20
nixternalk10:20
nixternalholy smokes10:22
nixternalit booted up10:22
mjg59Right. Please file a bug against xserver-xorg-video-ati and linux-source-2.6.2210:22
mjg59There's a bug in either the dri or drm implementation there10:22
nixternalroger that, I will work on that10:23
mjg59Include the Xorg.0.log10:23
nixternalthe one on my server right now, or the one that is booted up now?10:23
mjg59Both would be good10:24
nixternalbefore and after...roger that10:24
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