=== jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-175-179.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.243.161] has joined #edubuntu === sobersabre [n=bilbo@89-138-181-59.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] hi. [03:17] I am running a research lab, and we're using debian as linux distribution. [03:17] I understand *buntu is a bit "newer" and "shinier" than the Debian stable. [03:18] but, I don't get the "edu" thing. [03:18] what's the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu ? [03:18] which "educational" aspects is edubuntu taking care of ? [03:20] hmmm is it for school level or university level ? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] sobersabre: mostly school level === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.111.44] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] sobersabre: we include educational applications [03:33] as well as automatic LTSP server setup [03:34] it's basically education focused Ubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool155.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@211-10-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@211-10-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool155.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw is now known as pauljw_vm === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Mon Sep 10 15:33:06 2007 === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === sobersabre [n=bilbo@89-138-181-59.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #edubuntu [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === ogra1 [n=ogra@p548AEEF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra1 is now known as ogra === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === cishpix [n=Blue@125.162.42.140] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@199.Red-83-36-56.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-157-206.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@199.Red-83-36-56.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa is now known as toscalix === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-181-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@207.10.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@190-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [02:57] Morning all [02:59] sbalneav, bug 144296 :(( [02:59] Launchpad bug 144296 in ltsp "ltsp-build-client fails at -- updating inetd.config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144296 [03:00] Hey ogra, saw that one. [03:00] not sure what to do with it ... if i force the debconf frontend to noninteractive, the installer mode will break [03:00] Can't actually see where it fails [03:01] update-inetd waiting for input from debconf wheer no input should be [03:01] i force debconf to use a pipe as its frontend for ltsp-build-client [03:02] which is needed to pass the debconf stuff through to the installer === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp132-96.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] hmm, wait [03:02] Oh, so it's hanging at the end. [03:02] hehehe === ogra giggles slightly mad [03:02] Found it [03:02] welll, no [03:02] It's never done this to me before/ [03:02] but in the installer we run ltsp-update-image separately === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu [03:03] so i can force DEBCONF_FRONTEND=noninteractive from the ipdate-image module [03:03] *update-image [03:03] Makes sense/ [03:03] it wont affect the installer at all :) [03:04] would be easier if i hadnt to build a full client again to check if it works :/ [03:05] btw, compiz doesnt work if the server uses any of nvidia or fglrx drivers ... bot replace GL on the server and compiz cant detect it anymore [03:05] s/bot/both === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] So, what video cards DOES compiz work with, seeing as how now they don't use the 3100 and 3300 from intel? :) [03:14] it works on my classmate [03:14] using XSERVER=intel and X_MODE_0=800x480 [03:15] totally flawless until i enable fglrx on the server :) [03:15] i think its the same with nvidia [03:16] Make sure to sync from my tree before you push up the fixes from Bug #144296 , Then I'll sync from you [03:16] Launchpad bug 144296 in ltsp "ltsp-build-client fails at -- updating inetd.config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144296 [03:17] well, are there any changes in your tree ? [03:18] revno: 483 [03:18] Yeah, there was a minor bugfix. [03:18] message: [03:18] Merged from ogra [03:18] /var/run/drives wasn't being created. [03:19] v 484 [03:19] oooh [03:19] It didn't affect usbkeys, since add_fstab_entry does a mkdir -p [03:19] evo is evil [03:19] but for cdpinger, it was a problem. [03:19] boith commits were on the same day, evo shows them in wrong order here [03:20] the C version of cdpinger will call the add_fstab and remove_fstab scripts, so next version, we can drop that bit from ltsp-client-init. [03:23] good [03:25] I did some testing over the weekend. My goal for most of this week is just to go through everything and test to death. [03:29] yeah [03:29] thats what we need [03:30] i hope beta will get us some more ordinary users :) [03:31] So, are we sub-ordinary, or extra-ordinary? :) [03:31] spethial [03:31] :) [03:32] lol === ogra just dropped all remaining edu apps [03:32] :/ [03:32] nothing left on the server CD [03:32] lets see if it fits now [03:32] i am ordinary..want me to give a whirl? [03:33] actualyy this week is a whirl..oldest daughter getting mmarried Saturday.. [03:37] So, essentially, we've ended up where you wanted to be anyway, Edubuntu just basically being an addon cd to a server install. [03:37] Maybe we should talk about that again in Boston. [03:37] well .... [03:37] not really [03:38] no? [03:38] its a moodle/ltsp server that will also become a samaba server later [03:38] not replaceable by a ubuntu ltsp server CD [03:39] ah [03:39] ok [03:39] my suggestion was based on the fact that we only have ltsp [03:39] thanks to moquist that doesnt apply andymore [03:39] and fredmore, and carlmore etc ... 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[06:05] shriphani: No idea. He's in SA, so should be a little closer to your time zone than I am. === joebake1 [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:05] hmm.. [06:05] Hmm SA is ambiguous [06:05] btw in SA we won the T20 world cup. [06:05] South Africa [06:05] south africa. [06:06] What's a T20 world cup? [06:06] twenty overs cricket. [06:07] Ah, don't follow sports. I'm Canadian and don't even watch hockey :) === joebake1 [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === j0ebaker [n=joebaker@rrcs-67-52-198-66.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === kajigga [n=kajigga@205.123.69.250] has joined #edubuntu [06:28] ogra: Bug #14400 [06:28] Launchpad bug 14400 in libpaper "wrong papersize selected for Canadians" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14400 [06:28] um [06:28] no [06:28] Sorry [06:28] Bug #144500 [06:28] Launchpad bug 144500 in ltsp "autopkgtest gutsy ltsp-client-core amd64: erroneous package!" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144500 [06:32] ogra: ?? === neenaoffline [n=neenaoff@unaffiliated/neenaoffline] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [06:49] sbalneav, duplicate of bug 73712 and of debian bug 398630 [06:49] Launchpad bug 73712 in ltsp "ltsp-client preinst fails when DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73712 [06:49] Debian bug 398630 in ltsp-client "ltsp-client: preinst fails" [Wishlist,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/398630 === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:14] [ ] gutsy-server-i386.OVERSIZED 24-Sep-2007 18:05 0 [07:14] [ ] gutsy-server-i386.iso 24-Sep-2007 18:02 700M [07:14] yay === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [07:27] sbalneav, iwj is playing with the autopkgtester and abuses ltsp-client as a bad testcase (ltsp-client is supposed to fail in such environments, iwj knows that) [07:28] so just ignore any further mails with autopkgtest in the subject :) === pauljw [n=paul@pool33.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jamiehd [n=jamiehd@89.243.247.0] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] Hi guys [08:22] Does anyone know of a list of the aps that are released in edubuntu, but not ubuntu [08:22] I have ubuntu, and basically want to get all the programmes through apt-get without reinstalling. === jessejazza [n=chatzill@host86-132-78-246.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === macogw [n=80a4c819@207.250.49.24] has joined #edubuntu === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [08:37] the edubuntu FAQ page still says that the LTS *will be* (future tense) released in June [08:38] in reference to 6.06 === meduxa [n=agustin@199.Red-83-36-56.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:44] these guys have benn "haulin" with lts for gutsy and no one has had time tofix the old faq === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === [2] Netham45 [n=Netham45@71.237.75.180] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth is now known as NotAmaranth === NotAmaranth is now known as Amaranth === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@194.125.21.145] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === [1] Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-97-157-206.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === JordanC [n=MasterPl@host86-130-148-93.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu === Netham45 [n=Netham45@unaffiliated/netham45] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@190-92-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu