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Red-SoxJordan_U: do you know if there are any microsoft keyboard/mouse drivers that support the media buttons/side buttons12:34
Jordan_U!media keys12:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about media keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:35
Red-SoxNICE12:35
Red-Sox;)12:35
Jordan_URed-Sox, Meh, there's a factoid for it but you can set them up in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts IIRC12:35
Red-Soxokay12:36
Red-Soxthanks12:36
Red-Soxwell how come play/pause doesn't work with banshee12:36
Jordan_URed-Sox, Some keyboards ( like mine ) Just Work12:37
Red-SoxHAHA12:37
Red-SoxI like microsoft hardware for the most part12:37
Red-SoxSturdy keyboard, comfortable mouse12:37
Red-Sox$8012:37
Red-Soxnot bad12:37
Jordan_URed-Sox, Have you set up that shortcut in System -> Preferences Shortcuts?12:37
Red-Soxnope12:38
Red-Soxgetting there12:38
Red-Sox:P12:38
Jordan_URed-Sox, You just click the function and press the key that you want to associate with it12:38
Red-SoxI like gmail for email...idk I'm just that way...so that's what I want the mail button to launch :P12:38
Jordan_URed-Sox, Easiest way to do that is to get the gmail applet thing12:39
Red-SoxI don't see shortcuts12:39
Red-SoxUnder prefs12:39
Red-SoxI see _keyboard_ shortcuts....12:39
Jordan_UThat's it12:39
Red-SoxOh wait well first I want to set play/pause etc to banshee12:39
Red-Soxthat's what I thought you meant12:39
Jordan_URed-Sox, Do you want play/pause to open Banshee or to control banshee?12:41
Red-SoxControl12:41
Red-SoxI want the music botton to open12:41
Jordan_URed-Sox, IIRC once it's set up in in Gnome it will work12:41
Red-Soxhaha there are...24 extra keys on this12:41
Red-SoxWell it's installed....12:41
Red-Soxhmm12:41
Red-SoxIt won't recognize a lot of those buttons, even when I tap one to try to map it12:42
Jordan_URed-Sox, So what do you want to do that you still don't understand / know how to do?12:43
Jordan_URed-Sox, BTW, it's not a driver issue, it's just matching the keycodes that the keyboard gives to the function you want it to perform12:44
Red-SoxJordan_U: First of all, Jordan_U, this is my keyboard: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=08212:45
Jordan_URed-Sox, So any keyboard with any "Functions" will work, since the "Functions" Are just a matter of how it's configured and what label they decided to put on what key :)12:45
Red-SoxOkay12:46
Red-SoxAlso, the six ones on the bottom of the ones labled '4' in the diagram won't work12:46
Jordan_URed-Sox, Is there a larger image than the "larger image" ? :) I can't see what extra keys you have12:46
Red-Soxand the two below that won't12:46
Red-SoxHaha sure hold on12:46
Red-SoxJordan_U: The one on top: http://www.geekz1.com/images/reviews/msftkbd/DSC_6233.JPG12:47
Red-Soxcloser: http://www.geekz1.com/images/reviews/msftkbd/DSC_6245.JPG12:47
Jordan_URed-Sox, Do you want the top arrow keys to switch tracks?12:50
Red-SoxJordan_U: I can't find the media buttons12:50
Red-Soxand no12:50
Jordan_URed-Sox, Ahh, Ok, what are those supposed to do?12:50
Red-Soxstill looking though haha12:51
Red-SoxI want those to control back/forward in firefox, Jordan_U12:51
Red-SoxJordan_U: somewhat visible http://static.flickr.com/119/308116801_dc57f2ff09.jpg12:53
Red-SoxWell looking at that, Jordan_U, here's what I want each key to do.12:53
Jordan_URed-Sox, Looks like that isn't a default in Gnome, and they don't seem to let you add more ( one of those stupid decisions I mentioned earlier ) so that will probably have to be done manually12:53
Jordan_URed-Sox, Just list the functions that you want to perform that aren't in the default list of actions( where the key is or what it looks like doesn't really matter )12:56
Red-SoxFrom the bottom left, I want that rocker to control zoom (if that's possible,) I want the gadgets button to launch the terminal.  Above that, bottom left, I want the music button to launch banshee, the VoIP button to launch Gaim, the photos button to launch facebook, the mail button to launch gmail, the documents menu to bring up the menu, and the home button to launch my browser.  Above that, I want the left arrow to go back and the right a12:56
Jordan_URed-Sox, Zoom as in zooming into the entire desktop? I think that to do that smoothly you will need to use Compiz ( and it is really easy to setup keyboard shortcuts in Compiz / Beryl )12:58
Red-SoxJordan_U: Okay, that's how it was in OS X and it was amazing12:58
Red-SoxSo compiz12:58
Red-SoxI was gonna have to tackle that at some point12:58
Jordan_URed-Sox, Please list only the functions that are't in the list of actions in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts, since I assume you can do that yourself12:59
Red-SoxOkay well actually all of those but the volume ones.......01:00
Jordan_URed-Sox, Unless you don't know how to for instance set bansee to run when Gnome tries to "Launch Music Player"01:00
Red-SoxBecause most of them aren't mapped to the correct app01:00
Red-SoxThat's what I don't know01:00
Red-SoxJordan_U: keytouch?01:01
Jordan_URed-Sox, I don't think you need that, maybe it would be easier to setup but I have never tried it01:02
Red-SoxIt looks as if this will help immensel01:02
Red-Soximmensely*01:03
Red-SoxI...just...can't find it01:04
Red-SoxI just installed it01:04
Red-Soxit's not anywhere in the middle01:04
Red-Soxmenu*01:04
Jordan_URed-Sox, Use galternatives to change the default app for a given task01:05
Red-SoxIs that installed already?01:06
Jordan_URed-Sox, I don't know, try running it from a terminal and find out :)01:07
Red-Soxyay I found KeyTouch01:07
Red-Soxand I installed galternatives, I just on't know where it is lol01:07
Red-Soxdon't*01:07
Jordan_URed-Sox, Use whatever works, at this point if you can't tell I am just figuring out things as we go01:09
Red-Soxyeah and thanks btw you've helped a lot today :D01:09
Jordan_Unp01:10
Red-Soxhmm well KeyTouch won't work, but I'll hang on to it just in case01:14
Red-SoxJordan_U: this isn't my keyboard but I'm trying it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22955901:22
Jordan_URed-Sox, Just ask in #ubuntu how to make Banshee the default media player in Gnome that should solve most of your problems01:23
Red-SoxOkay01:23
Red-SoxThose ones to the left aren't that important01:23
Red-SoxSomething odd though is when I mute, banshee overides it01:24
Red-Soxoh it doesn't work at all01:24
Red-Soxso the system volume is pointless....01:24
Red-SoxJordan_U: I don't think anyone knows :P01:26
Red-Soxactually, Jordan_U, it IS default01:28
Jordan_URed-Sox, You may just need to show the other channels in the volume preferences01:28
Red-SoxOkay01:29
Jordan_URed-Sox, What defaults are not set as you want them to be?01:30
Red-SoxJordan_U: Well banshee is all I care about anymore01:31
Jordan_URed-Sox, Oh, BTW, you do *not* want to follow the instructions on that post, at least as far as I can tell it is not required, and may break things01:31
Jordan_URed-Sox, So you are fine?01:32
Red-SoxJordan_U: crap01:33
Red-Soxhaha01:33
Red-SoxI'll reserve that later01:33
Red-Soxas for now I have xc01:33
Red-Soxbye guys01:33
Red-Sox[away] oh and thanks again Jordan_U01:34
Jordan_URed-Sox[away] , np, and don't change your nick, just set an away message01:34
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Red-Sox[away] Back02:58
Red-SoxJordan_U: what's the matter with changing the nick?02:58
Jordan_URed-Sox, It just adds more clutter in large channels like #ubuntu02:59
Jordan_U!nickspam02:59
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines02:59
Red-SoxOkay03:00
Red-Soxnalioth: does the volume work on your internal speakers but not for your externals?03:11
naliothinternal speakers?03:11
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Red-Soxwell does audio work for your external speakers?03:12
Jordan_URed-Sox, I didn't think the mac mini had internal speakers03:28
Red-SoxJordan_U: yes just one though03:39
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tatorshi03:43
jribpaste output of 'sudo fdisk -l'03:43
jribhi03:43
tatorswhat03:43
tatorswhere do I paste this03:43
jribhere is fine or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if it's >5 lines03:44
tatorssudo fdisk -103:44
tatorssudo fdisk -l03:44
tatorsthis is my windows machine btw03:44
jribthe output :003:44
tatorsnot my linux machine03:44
tatorsoh into the terminal03:44
tatorshold on03:44
tatorsI can't paste it becuase its a different computer03:45
tatorswhat info do you need03:45
jribdoes the other computer not have internet access?03:45
tatorsit does03:45
tatorscan I install irc on it03:45
jribsure03:45
tatorseven tho I'm not logged in and its a live cd03:45
tatorsok hold on03:45
Red-SoxJordan_U: Do you know how to use this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395433 ?03:46
tatorswhat is a linux irc client03:47
jribRed-Sox: you would need to know how to recompile03:47
jribtators: xchat03:47
Red-Soxoh crap03:47
Red-SoxI freackin give up03:47
jribgaim works too but I don't know how03:47
Jordan_URed-Sox, "This patch has been applied to the Banshee package in Ubuntu to good effect."03:47
jribJordan_U: probably only in gutsy?03:48
Jordan_Ujrib, I havn't actually checked the bug report on launchpad03:49
Red-SoxJordan_U: ?03:49
Jordan_U8729903:49
Red-Soxjrib: wasn't gaim changed to pidgin?03:49
tatorsyeah I don't knwo how to install xchat in linux03:49
tatorswhat info do you need to know03:49
jribRed-Sox: starting in gutsy, yes03:50
Jordan_Utators, Applications -> Add / Remove03:50
jribsorry, but why do you set a root password and not know how to install applications...03:50
Red-Soxjrib: Oh03:50
Red-Soxtators: Or you could use apt (sudo apt-get install xchat) in the terminal without the parens03:51
Jordan_Utators, That is how you install all Applications pretty much, not the "Advanced" option ( which is the same as System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager )03:51
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tattors_yo03:52
tattors_ok03:52
Red-SoxJordan_U: If that's been applied to the ubuntu package, how come it won't work?03:52
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l03:52
tattors_Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes03:52
tattors_255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders03:52
tattors_Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes03:52
tattors_   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:52
tattors_/dev/sda1   *           1       19130   153661693+  83  Linux03:52
tattors_/dev/sda2           19131       19457     2626627+   5  Extended03:52
tattors_/dev/sda5           19131       19457     2626596   82  Linux swap / Solar03:52
Red-Soxtattors_: We might try pastebin.ca next time, too03:52
jribtators: do this command: sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda103:54
tattors_was something supposed to happen03:55
tattors_I pasted everything you said after command:03:55
jribtators: what does 'ls /media/sda1' now return?03:55
tattors_no such...03:55
Jordan_Utattors_, No such what?03:56
tattors_file or directory03:56
Jordan_Utattors_, Not possible03:56
jribdid you do: sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda103:56
jribtators:03:56
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda103:56
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /media/sdal03:56
tattors_ls: /media/sdal: No such file or directory03:56
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$03:56
jribthat's a 1 as in the number one, not an l03:57
tattors_oh sda103:57
tattors_ok03:57
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda103:57
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /media/sdal03:57
tattors_ls: /media/sdal: No such file or directory03:57
tattors_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$03:57
tattors_err sorry03:57
tattors_bin    dev   initrd      lib64       mnt   root  sys  var03:58
tattors_boot   etc   initrd.img  lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz03:58
tattors_cdrom  home  lib         media       proc  srv   us03:58
jribok, now do 'sudo chroot /media/sda1'03:58
tattors_k03:58
jribwhat does your prompt look like now?03:59
tattors_root@ubuntu03:59
jribgood03:59
jribnow do 'passwd root' and set a password you can remember :)04:00
jribdid you forget your user's password as well?04:00
tattors_possibly04:00
jribdo you remember the username?04:00
tattors_yea04:00
tattors_but not the pw04:01
jribafter you reset the root password, do 'passwd THE_USERNAME_HERE'04:01
Jordan_URed-Sox, "04:01
Jordan_UI can confirm that this patch builds cleanly and works as expected.04:01
Jordan_UThe package is easily rebuilt through instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff. I got some help on IRC in #ubuntu-motu, so head there if you need help. :)"04:01
tattors_sweet04:01
Jordan_URed-Sox, From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/8729904:01
tattors_so now I can get off the livecd04:01
tattors_nd everything should be fine?04:02
jribtattors_: in theory, but come back here if there are issues04:02
tatorsk thx04:02
Jordan_Utattors_, Why do you have a root password?04:02
tatorsi dont know04:02
Jordan_Utators, Then you might want to set it back to the default of being "disabled" with "passwd root -d"04:03
Red-SoxJordan_U: can I download a patch there or something?04:08
Red-SoxIf so I'm not seein it...04:08
tatorsis mysql and apache already installed from my live cd04:11
tatorsor do I have to install it all04:11
jribtators: on the live cd system that you get when you boot from the cd?04:12
tatorsuhm yea04:12
tatorsI did a search for mysql04:12
tatorsand it only had administrator software04:12
jribno, mysql and apache are not installed by default on the live cd04:13
tatorsnot the actual sever04:13
tatorsso how do I instlal it04:13
jribwhy do you want to use the live cd instead of your installed system?04:13
tatorsI don't04:13
tatorsI took out the cd04:13
tatorsbut I was wondering if it was already installed04:13
tatorsand if not04:13
tatorswhere do I get it from04:13
jrib!lamp04:14
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:14
tatorsbecause applications --> add/remove doesn't have it04:14
jribread that link04:14
tatorsty04:15
jribI have to go now, good night and good luck :)04:15
Red-Soxanyone know how this would work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178574#504:17
Red-SoxJordan_U: I got it!!! There was an included plugin!04:47
Red-SoxJordan_U: Now all I need to do is figure out this audio problem and get my 5-button mouse working, then I'll be happy04:48
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tattorshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38420/05:09
tattorsany help would be great ;)05:09
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