[12:34] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: do you know if there are any microsoft keyboard/mouse drivers that support the media buttons/side buttons
[12:34] <Jordan_U> !media keys
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <Red-Sox> NICE
[12:35] <Red-Sox> ;)
[12:35] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Meh, there's a factoid for it but you can set them up in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts IIRC
[12:36] <Red-Sox> okay
[12:36] <Red-Sox> thanks
[12:36] <Red-Sox> well how come play/pause doesn't work with banshee
[12:37] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Some keyboards ( like mine ) Just Work
[12:37] <Red-Sox> HAHA
[12:37] <Red-Sox> I like microsoft hardware for the most part
[12:37] <Red-Sox> Sturdy keyboard, comfortable mouse
[12:37] <Red-Sox> $80
[12:37] <Red-Sox> not bad
[12:37] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Have you set up that shortcut in System -> Preferences Shortcuts?
[12:38] <Red-Sox> nope
[12:38] <Red-Sox> getting there
[12:38] <Red-Sox> :P
[12:38] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, You just click the function and press the key that you want to associate with it
[12:38] <Red-Sox> I like gmail for email...idk I'm just that way...so that's what I want the mail button to launch :P
[12:39] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Easiest way to do that is to get the gmail applet thing
[12:39] <Red-Sox> I don't see shortcuts
[12:39] <Red-Sox> Under prefs
[12:39] <Red-Sox> I see _keyboard_ shortcuts....
[12:39] <Jordan_U> That's it
[12:39] <Red-Sox> Oh wait well first I want to set play/pause etc to banshee
[12:39] <Red-Sox> that's what I thought you meant
[12:41] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Do you want play/pause to open Banshee or to control banshee?
[12:41] <Red-Sox> Control
[12:41] <Red-Sox> I want the music botton to open
[12:41] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, IIRC once it's set up in in Gnome it will work
[12:41] <Red-Sox> haha there are...24 extra keys on this
[12:41] <Red-Sox> Well it's installed....
[12:41] <Red-Sox> hmm
[12:42] <Red-Sox> It won't recognize a lot of those buttons, even when I tap one to try to map it
[12:43] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, So what do you want to do that you still don't understand / know how to do?
[12:44] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, BTW, it's not a driver issue, it's just matching the keycodes that the keyboard gives to the function you want it to perform
[12:45] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: First of all, Jordan_U, this is my keyboard: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=082
[12:45] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, So any keyboard with any "Functions" will work, since the "Functions" Are just a matter of how it's configured and what label they decided to put on what key :)
[12:46] <Red-Sox> Okay
[12:46] <Red-Sox> Also, the six ones on the bottom of the ones labled '4' in the diagram won't work
[12:46] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Is there a larger image than the "larger image" ? :) I can't see what extra keys you have
[12:46] <Red-Sox> and the two below that won't
[12:46] <Red-Sox> Haha sure hold on
[12:47] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: The one on top: http://www.geekz1.com/images/reviews/msftkbd/DSC_6233.JPG
[12:47] <Red-Sox> closer: http://www.geekz1.com/images/reviews/msftkbd/DSC_6245.JPG
[12:50] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Do you want the top arrow keys to switch tracks?
[12:50] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: I can't find the media buttons
[12:50] <Red-Sox> and no
[12:50] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Ahh, Ok, what are those supposed to do?
[12:51] <Red-Sox> still looking though haha
[12:51] <Red-Sox> I want those to control back/forward in firefox, Jordan_U
[12:53] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: somewhat visible http://static.flickr.com/119/308116801_dc57f2ff09.jpg
[12:53] <Red-Sox> Well looking at that, Jordan_U, here's what I want each key to do.
[12:53] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Looks like that isn't a default in Gnome, and they don't seem to let you add more ( one of those stupid decisions I mentioned earlier ) so that will probably have to be done manually
[12:56] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Just list the functions that you want to perform that aren't in the default list of actions( where the key is or what it looks like doesn't really matter )
[12:56] <Red-Sox> From the bottom left, I want that rocker to control zoom (if that's possible,) I want the gadgets button to launch the terminal.  Above that, bottom left, I want the music button to launch banshee, the VoIP button to launch Gaim, the photos button to launch facebook, the mail button to launch gmail, the documents menu to bring up the menu, and the home button to launch my browser.  Above that, I want the left arrow to go back and the right a
[12:58] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Zoom as in zooming into the entire desktop? I think that to do that smoothly you will need to use Compiz ( and it is really easy to setup keyboard shortcuts in Compiz / Beryl )
[12:58] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: Okay, that's how it was in OS X and it was amazing
[12:58] <Red-Sox> So compiz
[12:58] <Red-Sox> I was gonna have to tackle that at some point
[12:59] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Please list only the functions that are't in the list of actions in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts, since I assume you can do that yourself
[01:00] <Red-Sox> Okay well actually all of those but the volume ones.......
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Unless you don't know how to for instance set bansee to run when Gnome tries to "Launch Music Player"
[01:00] <Red-Sox> Because most of them aren't mapped to the correct app
[01:00] <Red-Sox> That's what I don't know
[01:01] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: keytouch?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, I don't think you need that, maybe it would be easier to setup but I have never tried it
[01:02] <Red-Sox> It looks as if this will help immensel
[01:03] <Red-Sox> immensely*
[01:04] <Red-Sox> I...just...can't find it
[01:04] <Red-Sox> I just installed it
[01:04] <Red-Sox> it's not anywhere in the middle
[01:04] <Red-Sox> menu*
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Use galternatives to change the default app for a given task
[01:06] <Red-Sox> Is that installed already?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, I don't know, try running it from a terminal and find out :)
[01:07] <Red-Sox> yay I found KeyTouch
[01:07] <Red-Sox> and I installed galternatives, I just on't know where it is lol
[01:07] <Red-Sox> don't*
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Use whatever works, at this point if you can't tell I am just figuring out things as we go
[01:09] <Red-Sox> yeah and thanks btw you've helped a lot today :D
[01:10] <Jordan_U> np
[01:14] <Red-Sox> hmm well KeyTouch won't work, but I'll hang on to it just in case
[01:22] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: this isn't my keyboard but I'm trying it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229559
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Just ask in #ubuntu how to make Banshee the default media player in Gnome that should solve most of your problems
[01:23] <Red-Sox> Okay
[01:23] <Red-Sox> Those ones to the left aren't that important
[01:24] <Red-Sox> Something odd though is when I mute, banshee overides it
[01:24] <Red-Sox> oh it doesn't work at all
[01:24] <Red-Sox> so the system volume is pointless....
[01:26] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: I don't think anyone knows :P
[01:28] <Red-Sox> actually, Jordan_U, it IS default
[01:28] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, You may just need to show the other channels in the volume preferences
[01:29] <Red-Sox> Okay
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, What defaults are not set as you want them to be?
[01:31] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: Well banshee is all I care about anymore
[01:31] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, Oh, BTW, you do *not* want to follow the instructions on that post, at least as far as I can tell it is not required, and may break things
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, So you are fine?
[01:33] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: crap
[01:33] <Red-Sox> haha
[01:33] <Red-Sox> I'll reserve that later
[01:33] <Red-Sox> as for now I have xc
[01:33] <Red-Sox> bye guys
[01:34] <Red-Sox[away] > oh and thanks again Jordan_U
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox[away] , np, and don't change your nick, just set an away message
[02:58] <Red-Sox[away] > Back
[02:58] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: what's the matter with changing the nick?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, It just adds more clutter in large channels like #ubuntu
[02:59] <Jordan_U> !nickspam
[02:59] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[03:00] <Red-Sox> Okay
[03:11] <Red-Sox> nalioth: does the volume work on your internal speakers but not for your externals?
[03:11] <nalioth> internal speakers?
[03:12] <Red-Sox> well does audio work for your external speakers?
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, I didn't think the mac mini had internal speakers
[03:39] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: yes just one though
[03:43] <tators> hi
[03:43] <jrib> paste output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:43] <jrib> hi
[03:43] <tators> what
[03:43] <tators> where do I paste this
[03:44] <jrib> here is fine or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if it's >5 lines
[03:44] <tators> sudo fdisk -1
[03:44] <tators> sudo fdisk -l
[03:44] <tators> this is my windows machine btw
[03:44] <jrib> the output :0
[03:44] <tators> not my linux machine
[03:44] <tators> oh into the terminal
[03:44] <tators> hold on
[03:45] <tators> I can't paste it becuase its a different computer
[03:45] <tators> what info do you need
[03:45] <jrib> does the other computer not have internet access?
[03:45] <tators> it does
[03:45] <tators> can I install irc on it
[03:45] <jrib> sure
[03:45] <tators> even tho I'm not logged in and its a live cd
[03:45] <tators> ok hold on
[03:46] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: Do you know how to use this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=395433 ?
[03:47] <tators> what is a linux irc client
[03:47] <jrib> Red-Sox: you would need to know how to recompile
[03:47] <jrib> tators: xchat
[03:47] <Red-Sox> oh crap
[03:47] <Red-Sox> I freackin give up
[03:47] <jrib> gaim works too but I don't know how
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, "This patch has been applied to the Banshee package in Ubuntu to good effect."
[03:48] <jrib> Jordan_U: probably only in gutsy?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> jrib, I havn't actually checked the bug report on launchpad
[03:49] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: ?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> 87299
[03:49] <Red-Sox> jrib: wasn't gaim changed to pidgin?
[03:49] <tators> yeah I don't knwo how to install xchat in linux
[03:49] <tators> what info do you need to know
[03:50] <jrib> Red-Sox: starting in gutsy, yes
[03:50] <Jordan_U> tators, Applications -> Add / Remove
[03:50] <jrib> sorry, but why do you set a root password and not know how to install applications...
[03:50] <Red-Sox> jrib: Oh
[03:51] <Red-Sox> tators: Or you could use apt (sudo apt-get install xchat) in the terminal without the parens
[03:51] <Jordan_U> tators, That is how you install all Applications pretty much, not the "Advanced" option ( which is the same as System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager )
[03:52] <tattors_> yo
[03:52] <tattors_> ok
[03:52] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: If that's been applied to the ubuntu package, how come it won't work?
[03:52] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[03:52] <tattors_> Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[03:52] <tattors_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[03:52] <tattors_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:52] <tattors_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:52] <tattors_> /dev/sda1   *           1       19130   153661693+  83  Linux
[03:52] <tattors_> /dev/sda2           19131       19457     2626627+   5  Extended
[03:52] <tattors_> /dev/sda5           19131       19457     2626596   82  Linux swap / Solar
[03:52] <Red-Sox> tattors_: We might try pastebin.ca next time, too
[03:54] <jrib> tators: do this command: sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[03:55] <tattors_> was something supposed to happen
[03:55] <tattors_> I pasted everything you said after command:
[03:55] <jrib> tators: what does 'ls /media/sda1' now return?
[03:55] <tattors_> no such...
[03:56] <Jordan_U> tattors_, No such what?
[03:56] <tattors_> file or directory
[03:56] <Jordan_U> tattors_, Not possible
[03:56] <jrib> did you do: sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[03:56] <jrib> tators:
[03:56] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[03:56] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /media/sdal
[03:56] <tattors_> ls: /media/sdal: No such file or directory
[03:56] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[03:57] <jrib> that's a 1 as in the number one, not an l
[03:57] <tattors_> oh sda1
[03:57] <tattors_> ok
[03:57] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[03:57] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /media/sdal
[03:57] <tattors_> ls: /media/sdal: No such file or directory
[03:57] <tattors_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[03:57] <tattors_> err sorry
[03:58] <tattors_> bin    dev   initrd      lib64       mnt   root  sys  var
[03:58] <tattors_> boot   etc   initrd.img  lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz
[03:58] <tattors_> cdrom  home  lib         media       proc  srv   us
[03:58] <jrib> ok, now do 'sudo chroot /media/sda1'
[03:58] <tattors_> k
[03:59] <jrib> what does your prompt look like now?
[03:59] <tattors_> root@ubuntu
[03:59] <jrib> good
[04:00] <jrib> now do 'passwd root' and set a password you can remember :)
[04:00] <jrib> did you forget your user's password as well?
[04:00] <tattors_> possibly
[04:00] <jrib> do you remember the username?
[04:00] <tattors_> yea
[04:01] <tattors_> but not the pw
[04:01] <jrib> after you reset the root password, do 'passwd THE_USERNAME_HERE'
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, "
[04:01] <Jordan_U> I can confirm that this patch builds cleanly and works as expected.
[04:01] <Jordan_U> The package is easily rebuilt through instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff. I got some help on IRC in #ubuntu-motu, so head there if you need help. :)"
[04:01] <tattors_> sweet
[04:01] <Jordan_U> Red-Sox, From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/87299
[04:01] <tattors_> so now I can get off the livecd
[04:02] <tattors_> nd everything should be fine?
[04:02] <jrib> tattors_: in theory, but come back here if there are issues
[04:02] <tators> k thx
[04:02] <Jordan_U> tattors_, Why do you have a root password?
[04:02] <tators> i dont know
[04:03] <Jordan_U> tators, Then you might want to set it back to the default of being "disabled" with "passwd root -d"
[04:08] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: can I download a patch there or something?
[04:08] <Red-Sox> If so I'm not seein it...
[04:11] <tators> is mysql and apache already installed from my live cd
[04:11] <tators> or do I have to install it all
[04:12] <jrib> tators: on the live cd system that you get when you boot from the cd?
[04:12] <tators> uhm yea
[04:12] <tators> I did a search for mysql
[04:12] <tators> and it only had administrator software
[04:13] <jrib> no, mysql and apache are not installed by default on the live cd
[04:13] <tators> not the actual sever
[04:13] <tators> so how do I instlal it
[04:13] <jrib> why do you want to use the live cd instead of your installed system?
[04:13] <tators> I don't
[04:13] <tators> I took out the cd
[04:13] <tators> but I was wondering if it was already installed
[04:13] <tators> and if not
[04:13] <tators> where do I get it from
[04:14] <jrib> !lamp
[04:14] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:14] <tators> because applications --> add/remove doesn't have it
[04:14] <jrib> read that link
[04:15] <tators> ty
[04:15] <jrib> I have to go now, good night and good luck :)
[04:17] <Red-Sox> anyone know how this would work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178574#5
[04:47] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: I got it!!! There was an included plugin!
[04:48] <Red-Sox> Jordan_U: Now all I need to do is figure out this audio problem and get my 5-button mouse working, then I'll be happy
[05:09] <tattors> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38420/
[05:09] <tattors> any help would be great ;)
[09:04] <Red-Sox> Hi